[00:00] <Adder---> xRaich[o]2x, I am sorta of a computer newbie but let me check x_x
[00:01] <xRaich[o]2x> Adder---: try something like sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart. let's try that first
[00:01] <xRaich[o]2x> Adder---: in konsole please
[00:01] <Adder---> ok
[00:02] <limac> :|
[00:02] <acemo> is it normal with the amarok 1.4 welcome sound that the middle speaker aint working? (all others work now)
[00:03] <xRaich[o]2x> Adder---: done?
[00:03] <Adder---> X314,  it says there inst such a file
[00:03] <Adder---> but theres a process here
[00:03] <Adder---> dhcpcd
[00:03] <xRaich[o]2x> Adder---: what did you type in?
[00:04] <Jay-Oh-En> are there any programs to mod v3 razrs (the phones)
[00:05] <Daisuke_Ido> moto4lin
[00:05] <Daisuke_Ido> but i wouldn't bother
[00:06] <Daisuke_Ido> (of course, that comes from my absolute disgust with the razr line)
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> Im just sick of people obsessing over   gizmos :)
[00:08]  * Dr_Willis goes back to haxoring his Gameboy DS.
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> :P
[00:16] <Jay-Oh-En> Daisuke_Ido: yeah i have that installed but it cant do everything i want
[00:20] <wesley> is there a beta or such from raptor ?
[00:21] <Ahmuck> hi, i've connected a scanner to my computer, but kooka is asking for SANE to be installed.  i'm confused.  wouldn't this already be there if kooka was there.  i installed sane via adept, however kooka still complains about SANE.
[00:24] <Schuenemann> hey, what's wrong with wine? I can't minimize applications to taskbar and maximized ones are fullscreen
[00:26] <jenny_> I'm having problems with Kopete? Is anyone familiar with that program?
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  check the kooka settings - it may be it cant find the right path to the sane binaries
[00:33] <Blizzzek> gn8
[00:35] <niall> hi
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> Moo!
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> :)
[00:35] <Odd-rationale> hello!
[00:35] <niall> :D
[00:35] <snarkster> hi
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. I just recoded a video for my GB-DS.. and it encoded it.. upside down.. odd...
[00:36] <niall> can anyone tell me how to access my NTFS partitions? When I click the icons under storage-media in dolphin, I get an error: 'hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000'
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> One of these days i gotta get a portable video player that i can fit in my pocket.
[00:36] <Odd-rationale> niall: I have the same problem.
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> niall:  create entries for them in the fstab file, so they get mounted at boot time - is one way
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> For some reason the auto-mounting stuff has issues with ntfs drives.
[00:36] <niall> it works in normal Ubuntu :x
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if that 'ntfs-config' tool will fix it.
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> You got ubuntu and kubuntu both installed?
[00:37] <Odd-rationale> niall: I just do kdesudo mount /dev/<disk> /<mnt>
[00:37] <niall> Dr_Willis: no
[00:37] <niall> just Kubuntu
[00:37] <niall> this t ime
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> I dont have any external ntfs filesystems to test with.
[00:38] <Odd-rationale> I also searched the kubuntu forums. There seems to be no definite answer.
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> so cant really say more then what ive read.. all the fix's seem to be creating a proper fstab entry for the disk.
[00:38] <niall> how do I do that?
[00:38] <snarkster> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/<partition> /mnt/<folder
[00:39] <niall> hmmm
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> or in the fstab file - an entry similer to --->                    /dev/sdb1      /media/minihd ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[00:39] <niall> where's the fstab file?
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> in /etc
[00:39] <niall> righto
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> with all the 100000 other config files :)
[00:39] <niall> I'll give that a go
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g
[00:40] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[00:40] <snarkster> um sudo updatedb and the locate fstab
[00:40] <snarkster> and then I mean
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> proberly no need to update the db. :)
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> Its in /etc/ and has been for years..
[00:41] <niall> yeah it is
[00:41] <snarkster> but a neew user may not know that...
[00:41] <niall> i just did sudo kate /etc/fstab
[00:41] <niall> and it opened
[00:41] <snarkster> new even
[00:41] <snarkster> i use vi
[00:41] <ardchoille> !kdesu | niall
[00:41] <ubotu> niall: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[00:42] <niall> en_GB is right for UK yeah?
[00:42] <ardchoille> yes
[00:43] <niall> thanks for the tip ubotu
[00:43] <snarkster> later all
[00:43] <ardchoille> !bot > niall
[00:43] <niall> ;D
[00:45] <niall> right
[00:45] <niall> i've put all my entires into fstab
[00:45] <niall> now if I save this and restart will it just work?
[00:45] <niall> or is there anything else I need to do
[00:48] <niall> brb!
[00:50] <muesli> i just tried to install the nvidia-glx-new package, but somehow after loading the new module x.org dies on startup. dmesg tells me:
[00:51] <muesli> NVRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 169.07, but this kernel module has the version 100.14.19.
[00:55] <jcgkffycs> how do you add a system user account, I would like to use a script to do somethings via ssh on a system but I would like it to authenticate as a differnt user than my own, and I would not like the user to appear in kdm
[00:56] <stdin> jcgkffycs: give them a UID less than 1000
[00:57] <niall> oh dear :(
[00:57] <niall> now my partitions don't even apear in dolphin
[00:57] <jcgkffycs> thanks!
[00:57] <ardchoille> stdin: So *that* is how you do that, thanks :)
[00:58] <stdin> well anything less that 1000 or above 29999 by default
[00:58] <wesley> i think i got a fix to solve the digital clock problem in dutch translation
[00:59] <niall> I edited fstab to include my NTFS partitions but they didn't mount :<
[00:59] <wesley> how can you edited mo files?
[01:01] <stdin> wesley: you usually edit the .po
[01:01] <wesley> po?
[01:01] <stdin> yes, po gets "compiled" into .mo
[01:02] <wesley> ow i could replace the dutch .mo for a german .mo right ?
[01:02] <stdin> as long as you give it the same name, yeah
[01:03] <wesley> that should fix the problem with the uu its anoying my mother asking how late is it mom i dont know its uu and 03 min yeah
[01:09] <len> Has anyone with the KDE4 packages installed tried to install the kdegames-kde4 package?  I have KDE4 running OK, but the kdegames-kde4 package is broken.  I notice that the rest of the kde4 packages have been recompiled several times, but that the games package was not recompiled along with the rest of kde4--it's still at the original rev on from release day.  It seems like it's out of sync and need to be recompiled.
[01:10] <niall> I have NTFS access \o/
[01:10] <niall> thanks for the help again ;D
[01:11] <stdin> len: the package is fine (and it doesn't need rebuilding)
[01:13] <niall> hmm
[01:13] <len> Well, it doesn't install for me.  Both adept and synaptic give errors with I try to install in and label it as broken.  I can't install via apt-get either.
[01:13] <stdin> error messages would be useful
[01:13] <niall> i'm trying to execute a binary .run file, by doing ./file, but it keeps telling me No such file or directory - even thought I tabbed the name in :z
[01:14] <stdin> niall: is it executable?
[01:14] <niall> stdin: yes
[01:15] <stdin> niall: try "/bin/sh ./file"
[01:15] <len> If I remember correctly, I get the kind of errors in apt-get that you get when more than on dependant package contains the config file and one can't right because the other did it first.
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> or bash whatever.bin
[01:16] <niall> Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[01:16] <niall> :z
[01:16] <stdin> len: can't you post the errors to pastebin?
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> thats a sign of a bash vs sh issue I belive.
[01:16] <stdin> niall: yep, bash is your friend here "/bin/bash ./file"
[01:17] <niall> 'cannot execute binary file' :(
[01:17] <stdin> people shouldn't write scripts in bash and use "#!/bin/sh"...
[01:17] <len> I'm reluctant to run it again because it ends up half installed and it's hard to get uninstalled gain.  Guess I'll have to.
[01:18] <stdin> niall: what are you trying to install?
[01:18] <niall> ETQW ;x
[01:19] <niall> it installed last night OK, I coped the .run file over to one of my NTFS partitions to keep before I formated and installed Kubuntu
[01:19] <stdin> take it off the ntfs partition and try it
[01:19] <trafalgar> would it be correct to move /dev/sda5 from one hard drive to another can using well if you must using an intermediate .bz2 file using "dd if=source | bzip2 > somefile"  to create it and "bzcat somefile | dd of=destination" to copy it to the new drive?
[01:20] <niall> stdin: I have done, I copied it to my home folder
[01:20] <stdin> niall: what does "file <whatever-it's-called>.run" show?
[01:21] <stdin> !backup | trafalgar
[01:21] <niall> 'ETQW-client-1.4-full.x86.run: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped'
[01:21] <ubotu> trafalgar: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[01:22] <stdin> niall: what exactly does it say when you try to run it?
[01:22] <niall> ./ETQW-client-1.4-full.x86.run
[01:23] <niall> bash: ./ETQW-client-1.4-full.x86.run: No such file or directory
[01:23] <len> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52213/
[01:23] <len> There are the errors from apt-get
[01:23] <len> more than one package is trying to write the same file.
[01:23] <stdin> len: you have old beta packages installed, ie: kde4games  remove them
[01:24] <trafalgar> !backup
[01:24] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[01:24] <onesandzeros> hello all.  I was looking around packages.ubuntu.com for an RSS feed of package updates.  I couldn't find anything.  Does such a feed exist?
[01:25] <stdin> onesandzeros: no, but there is https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/hardy-changes
[01:25] <len> I'm pretty sure that I did.  In fact, I think adept automatically flagged and removed all old beta packages when I installed final.
[01:25] <onesandzeros> stdin: ok, thanks
[01:25] <trafalgar> stdin: oh, yeah, I should have said I already have the .bz file and now I want to move it a second drive replacing the one in there now.
[01:25] <stdin> len: can't have, kde4games is an old beta package, just look at the version "3.94.0-0ubuntu1"
[01:26] <stdin> trafalgar: it may work
[01:27] <trafalgar> stdin: I suppose the proof will be to ensure the output of file -s /dev/sda5 matches on old & new drives alike?
[01:28] <len> Did you notice any old references in the pastebin?  Maybe they old beta games were simply removed when they needed to be purged?
[01:29] <stdin> trafalgar: possibly, I tend to just copy the files over to a new partition rather than the whole disk
[01:29] <stdin> len: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/lib/libkdegames.so.4.0.0', which is also in package kde4games
[01:30] <stdin> that's but one of many, kde4games is an old beta package
[01:31] <len> Maybe the individual games were removed but not the kde4games metapackage.  I'll go check.
[01:31] <stdin> len: kde4games wasn't a metapackage
[01:31] <trafalgar> stdin: I would but it's a raw block device so I can't mount it (I've heard you can use some loop trick to mount it, but even then I need a identical result because I'm told converting to a file will not work and the result of file -s /dev/sda5 is /dev/sda5:  x86 boot sector, Microsoft Windows XP MBR, Serial 0xfe00fd; partition 1: ID=0x7, active, starthead 1, startsector 63, 125804952 sectors which makes me think this is regret
[01:35] <omar> has anyboady has tetex for latex
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> !find tetex
[01:36] <ubotu> Found: tetex-bin, tetex-extra, tetex-base, tetex-brev, tetex-doc-nonfree (and 3 others)
[01:36] <len> OK, that was it.  I thought kde4games was among the list of things that were auto removed by KDE4 final, before it installed, but I guess it wasn't for some reason.
[01:36] <len> Thanks, stdin
[01:37] <who_> hi i am running kubuntu dapper and i would like to try out kde4 but cant seem to figure out how to install it. any suggestions?
[01:38] <NickPresta> who_, I believe KDE4 packages are only available for Gutsy. If you want KDE 4, I would imagine you have to compile it yourself, which seems like a pain. Ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[01:38] <who_> thx
[01:38] <niall> I tried out KDE4 once, it ran REALLY slow :(
[01:39] <adz21c> i found it has its slow moments but usually ok
[01:39] <who_> oh n how would i upgrade to gusty from apt-get
[01:39] <who_> ??
[01:39] <NickPresta> who_, you have to upgrade from Dapper to Feisty to Gutsy. There is no direct Dapper->Gutsy upgrade. I would imagine you're better off backing up important data and installing Gutsy fresh
[01:40] <who_> oh ok
[01:40] <who_> thanks
[01:50] <LinuxPH> ola
[01:50] <LinuxPH> alguem ai do brasil?
[01:50] <stdin> !br
[01:50] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[01:51] <LinuxPH> #ubuntu-br
[01:51] <LinuxPH> vai la
[01:51] <mith_> !hu
[01:51] <ubotu> Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál
[01:52] <crackhead_25_> michaelnovakjr: hey m you there?
[01:53] <LinuxPH> #sexo
[02:02] <biovore> all nice and quite.
[02:03] <NickPresta> biovore, shhh, everyone is sleeping =D
[02:04] <niall> argh
[02:04] <niall> this makes no sense at all
[02:04] <niall> I redownloaded the file, you know, just incase
[02:04] <NickPresta> niall, sorry, what seems to be the problem?
[02:04] <niall> ./file - permission denied. So I allowed it to be executed, did ./ again and now it says no such file or directory
[02:05] <niall> I'm trying to execute a .run file
[02:05] <niall> and it's just not working ;'
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> what file is this anyway? whats the exact name?
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> be sure you are in the current directroy where its at also.
[02:05] <niall> ETQW-client-1.4-full.x86.run
[02:05] <niall> it's in my home directory
[02:06] <biovore> cd ~ && sh ./ETQW-<tab key>
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> try  'bash ETQW-client-1.4-full.x86.run'
[02:06] <stdin> Dr_Willis: it's an ELF
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> Egads an elf!
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:06] <niall> :x
[02:07] <stdin> [01:21]  <niall> 'ETQW-client-1.4-full.x86.run: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped'
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> well in that case he should just 'chmod +x ETQW-client-1.4-full.x86.run' then ./ETQW-client-1.4-full.x86.run
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> of course unless its curruoted.. or some other oddity
[02:09] <niall> sudo: unable to execute ./ETQW-client-1.4-full.x86.run: No such file or directory
[02:09] <niall> I don't know why it says that, because I'm clearly in the right directory, and it is there. I mean I tabbed the name in :z
[02:11] <NickPresta> niall, try using an absolute path (/bin/bash /home/username/ET...)
[02:11] <whuang> hi, I saw the methods for kubuntu to install kde4(http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php), but I'm still using kubuntu 7.04, is there a way for me to install kde4, thx!
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> dont use sudo
[02:12] <niall> 'cannot execute binary file'
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> sounds like the binary is currupted then. if its chmoded +x
[02:13] <niall> I just redownloaded it ;/
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> that dosent prove its good.
[02:13] <niall> I installed it last night on fedora
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> go to the fedora system and copy it to a usb drive/cd/ and perhaps try running that one
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> You did chmod +x the file?
[02:14] <niall> I was using the same one originally
[02:14] <niall> but it was doing exactly the same thing, which is why I opted to download it again
[02:14] <niall> yeah, I did chmod +x
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> whats the exact url to the file you downloaded? i will try grabbing it.
[02:16] <niall> Dr_Willis: http://www.gamershell.com/download_22799.shtml
[02:17] <stdin> 449.25MB?
[02:17]  * stdin passes on that
[02:17] <niall> yer
[02:17] <niall> lol
[02:17] <NickPresta> I'm downloading it now from Fileshack. ~750kbp/s
[02:18] <niall> it just doesn't make any sense to me, it not working
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> I hate sites like that.. i just want a simple url i can wget.. Not have spam ads. :)
[02:18] <niall> :<
[02:18] <NickPresta> Dr_Willis, agreed.
[02:19] <whuang> does anybody could help answer my question?
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> iga toing to take 30+ min anyway. and i leve for work in 30
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> So i guess i wont bother. :()
[02:19] <niall> there's an officail torrent too
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> whuang:  did you ask a question? Other then asking if we can answer?
[02:20] <DrVince> Is there a passive mode for cvs?
[02:20] <NickPresta> whuang, KDE4 is only available for Gutsy
[02:22] <whuang> I'm trying to use kde4 in 7.04. Do I have to upgrade to Gusty to experience it? thanks NickPresta and Willis
[02:22] <niall> yes
[02:22] <ardchoille> !kde4 | whuang
[02:22] <ubotu> whuang: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[02:24] <whuang> thx, I'll go to that channel
[02:25] <niall> any idea how you install an OOo icon theme?
[02:26] <slanier> after installing kubuntu im getting a "Error 29: Cannot write to disk" when trying to boot into windows, does anyone know how to fix this?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> windows is giving you this error when its booting?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> or is it linux/grub?
[02:27] <slanier> no it doesent load at all, GRUB is giving me the error
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. Thats. interesting.
[02:27] <sub[t]rnl> slanier➜ sounds like your grub is broke, do you even get to a grub menu?
[02:27] <oldude67> that reminds me, i need to make a windows box in vmware.
[02:27] <slanier> yeah I can book into Kubuntu no problem. But I click xp...and it gives me that error
[02:28] <slanier> boot*
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Ok. so Linux works.. windows dont. Grub is working...
[02:28] <slanier> I can also boot into windows in recovery mode using the disk
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Thats a good sign then.. Sounds like the grub settings are messed up for the windows install.
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> Where is windows installed to ? hda1 ?
[02:29] <slanier> no clue :)) how do I check that?
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> How many hard drives do you have?
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> sudo fdisk -l , will give a total layout of your drives
[02:29] <slanier> I have 1 harddrive that I installed both OSes on, and a backup harddrive
[02:30] <slanier> but when I installed Kubuntu it went on its own guided thing...not sure what it did..didnt let me pick partions
[02:30] <slanier> let me check my drives...brb
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> I normally manually resize the windows drive. leaving a part of the hd Unallocated at the end. and let linux install to that.
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> Its possible grub is trying to boot the wrong hd.
[02:31] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: Wouldn't tha tbe a simple matter of editing menu.lst ?
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:  yes. :) if he understands how to edit a text file as  root.. and we can figure out what it needs to be.
[02:31] <slanier> okay I got the drive printout, but Im not really sure how to read it...Im guessing the HPFS/NTFS is the windows partition correct?
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> But i am leving for work in 20 min.
[02:31] <ardchoille> yeah
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> slanier:  correct.
[02:32] <slanier> okay it shows start 2/ end 11975 / ID 7
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> slanier:  you proberly want to post the fdisk -l output to a pastebin site.. and the  file /boot/grub/menu.lst file as well
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> !pastebin
[02:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:34] <slanier> okay heres the fdisk -l
[02:34] <slanier> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52217/
[02:36] <slanier> k and heres the grub http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52218/
[02:36] <intelikey> slanier may i ask what it is you are trying to do ?
[02:36] <slanier> error 29 trying to boot into windows xp partition
[02:37] <intelikey> k
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> hI think i see somthing.. oddd..
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> windows is on sda1
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> but grub is doing a .......
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> rootnoverify		(hd1,2)
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> that would be s db1
[02:38] <slanier> okay...so I gedit it?
[02:38] <intelikey> no sdb3
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> So it LOOKS to me like its trying to boot th ewone partition
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> adcutlly there is no sdb3 but there is a sdb5 :)
[02:39] <intelikey> (hd1,2) == sdb3/5   which should probably be  (hd0,0) == sda1
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> intelikey:  bingo. :)
[02:40] <intelikey> yes five is the third partition
[02:40] <slanier> okay....so I change the rootnoverify to hd(0,0) ?
[02:40] <slanier> err (hd0,0)
[02:40] <intelikey> i guess.  i don't think i have ever followed an extended partition with a primary   to see how they worked out in bios...
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> That may do it..  also you Might want to try in the menu.lst under the #examples line is a example boot entry for windows95 on the first hd. Uncomment those 4 lines.
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> intelikey:  yea i bet that confused the boot loader config tools.
[02:41] <intelikey> slanier yes   (hd0,0)  is probably the winxp boot drive
[02:41] <slanier> okay Im sorry, what do you mean uncomment?
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> Th menu.lst even says......
[02:41] <slanier> << linux noob
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> # on /dev/sda1
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> and thats... not correct. :)
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> # this is a comment
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> this is unommented
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:42] <slanier> thank you
[02:42] <slanier> k let me edit this stuff and see if it works...
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> you can reboot and in teh  grub menu hit e, and edit that rootnoverify line, as a test.
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> e for edit.. make changes... b for boot..
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> i think
[02:43] <slanier> I can just gedit it form konsole right?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> but to makeit perment you have to change the menu.lst file either by  changing that rootnoverify line
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> gksudo editoryoulike /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> backup your existing menu.lst first :)
[02:43] <intelikey> in some cases needs the [esc] to get the menu and then the [e] to edit... [e] to edit ...  [b] to boot
[02:44] <slanier> k just changed rootnoverify to (hd0,0)
[02:45] <slanier> is there anything else I neded to edit?
[02:45] <intelikey> nope
[02:45] <slanier> k lets hope this works :p brb
[02:45] <intelikey> grub is not complicated,  it's just convoluted.
[02:47] <ubuntu> hey
[02:47] <intelikey> hay
[02:48] <ubuntu> I have a really pressing issue >_>;
[02:48] <intelikey> they all are.
[02:48] <ubuntu> Let me tell you:
[02:48] <intelikey> what's yours   no sound in some game ?
[02:48] <ubuntu> worse
[02:48] <ubuntu> hardware failures >_>;
[02:48] <ubuntu> let me explain
[02:48] <intelikey> go for it
[02:49] <slanier> still no dice :/
[02:49] <ubuntu> every since I installed kubuntu my hard drive has randomly been resetting from time to time
[02:49] <slanier> error 29
[02:49] <ubuntu> when I first heard the noise the pc was making
[02:49] <ubuntu> i though nothing of it because nothing big happened
[02:49] <ubuntu> no lag
[02:49] <ubuntu> no issues
[02:49] <ubuntu> but lately
[02:49] <ubuntu> it's happening more frequently
[02:49] <ubuntu> and today
[02:49] <ubuntu> I cant even run any of my os's
[02:49] <ubuntu> (as you can probably tell, Im running off the live cd)
[02:50] <ubuntu> everytime I load either kubu or xp
[02:50] <ubuntu> the harddrive keeps resetting
[02:50] <ubuntu> and making that startup noise
[02:50] <ubuntu> over and over
[02:50] <ubuntu> >____________>;
[02:50] <ubuntu> any idea as to what might be going on?
[02:51] <intelikey> slanier mount the partition and make sure that it is the boot device   i.e.  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt && ls /mnt || echo "error mounting"
[02:52] <intelikey> ubuntu sound like you called it the first time.  hardware failure.     you might be able to low level format the disk and reclaim it... but it's more likely the controler gone south
[02:53] <ubuntu> that means then
[02:53] <ubuntu> its most likely
[02:53] <ubuntu> that im gonna have to
[02:53] <ubuntu> *gulp*
[02:53] <intelikey> !enter | ubuntu
[02:53] <ubotu> ubuntu: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:53] <slanier> k well it shows AUTOEXEC.BAT, boot.ini...etc
[02:53] <ubuntu> reokace ny hard drive?
[02:53] <ubuntu> replace*
[02:53] <ubuntu> ok..
[02:54] <intelikey> slanier ok that's what it should be.   and make sure that your bios is set to boot from the primary master hdd
[02:54] <intelikey> ubuntu yes.   that's what that would mean.
[02:54] <ubuntu> ok
[02:54] <ubuntu> I guess I'll try the low level format first
[02:54] <ubuntu> see how that goes
[02:55] <slanier> okay...brb restarting again and checking bios
[02:55] <intelikey> i would.
[03:01] <intelikey> why is there no mention of using UUID in the official grub howtos ???  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:02] <biovore> yeah... UUID is kinda weird setup..
[03:03] <niall> I'm not having much luck with .run files
[03:03] <slanier> still error 29 grr
[03:04] <niall> the doom 3 installer doesnt' work either, but at least that starts
[03:04] <niall> ;/
[03:04] <slanier> bios was set corectly
[03:04] <intelikey> niall  bash /path/to/filename.run
[03:04] <intelikey> slanier give me a second.
[03:04] <slanier> np
[03:04] <niall> intelikey: no luck I'm afraid
[03:10] <intelikey> niall chmod 755 thefile.run ; /path/to/thefile.run
[03:10] <intelikey> slanier that error is a write error.   let me revisit the two pastebins for a minute
[03:10] <slanier> ok
[03:11] <slanier> do you need the links again?
[03:11] <intelikey> slanier is error 29 all you are getting   no device name with that ?
[03:11] <intelikey> no i have the links
[03:11] <slanier> it just says "Error 29: Write error"
[03:11] <slanier> then takes me back to GRUB selection
[03:12] <niall> intelikey: the file is +x already, it just doesn't work and I have no idea why, I've tried everything I can think of
[03:12] <intelikey> slanier and linux will boot but not windows ?
[03:12] <slanier> correct
[03:13] <intelikey> niall full path, using tab completion?   /path/to/thefile.run
[03:13] <intelikey> slanier could you pastebin   cat /boot/grub/device*
[03:13] <slanier> sure one sec
[03:14] <intelikey> slanier one other thing.  is this an internal or external drive ?    usb sata/pata/scsi...
[03:15] <slanier> its a sata internal
[03:15] <intelikey> ok
[03:15] <niall> intelikey: yes
[03:16] <intelikey> niall well if a file is executable and you can't execute it, then the file must be corrupt
[03:16] <slanier> cat /boot/grub/device*
[03:16] <slanier> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52221/
[03:16] <niall> the weird things is
[03:16] <niall> it says No such file or directory, even though I tabbed it in
[03:17] <intelikey> with full path   not relative path ?
[03:17] <niall> yes
[03:17] <intelikey> niall show me the full error.
[03:18] <MilitantPotat1> !widget
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widget - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <intelikey> slanier heh i think i see it.  would you pastebin the last five lines of the /boot/grub/menu.lst  again please     tail -5 /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:20] <slanier> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52222/
[03:20] <niall> intelikey: /home/niall/Downloads/ETQW-client-1.4-full.x86.run: cannot execute binary file
[03:20] <niall> that's when i type bash
[03:21] <niall> anything else claims there's no file there
[03:21] <intelikey> use the up arrow and the home key then delete the "bash "   and hit enter
[03:21] <niall> 'No such file or directory'
[03:22] <intelikey> slanier what i thought was it wasn't but a missing char from your eariler post.
[03:23] <slanier> if I delete "makeactive" think it would boot?
[03:23] <slanier> reading on a forum that someone had some luck doing that...
[03:23] <CaBlGuY> greetings all..
[03:23] <intelikey> i doubt it will change anything slanier
[03:23] <CaBlGuY> anyone available to help with a realtek audio issue?
[03:23] <intelikey> but you might remove the "noverify"
[03:24] <slanier> alright gonna try that...brb
[03:24] <intelikey> slanier i'm not seeing any configuration error at all.
[03:25] <niall> trying to install q4 this time
[03:25] <CaBlGuY> so, I just upgraded my box and the new mobo has realtek ALC 883 high definition sound on it.. and I'm having issues with running it...
[03:25] <niall> the install runs, but doesn't get very far. After verifying the archive and uncompressing I get:
[03:25] <niall> ./setup.sh: 279: /home/niall/.setup10003: not found
[03:25] <niall> The setup program seems to have failed on x86_64/glibc-2.0
[03:26] <niall> nothing works :(
[03:26] <slanier> brb gonna try this one...
[03:27] <intelikey> brb
[03:28] <CaBlGuY> so, anyone??
[03:29] <niall> no idea :(
[03:29] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[03:29] <niall> I'm just trying to install some stuff
[03:29]  * CaBlGuY loks aorund the room
[03:30] <marcx> I already got install ipw3945-ucode and ipw3945d in /sbin everything seems to be ok but wireless doesn't work
[03:30] <marcx> can someone help me, plz?
[03:30] <CaBlGuY> wow..  I don't see anyone I used to  know in here any more..  *sigh*
[03:31] <stephan> i just did a fresh install of kubuntu 64bit...i am tryiong to enable restricted nvidia drivers via the system settings menu but when i click "admin mode" it wont allow me to enter teh password
[03:32] <marcx> I can't find fault
[03:32] <intelikey> stephan what does it do exactly ?
[03:33] <intelikey> !sound | CaBlGuY maybe this will help
[03:33] <ubotu> CaBlGuY maybe this will help: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:33] <stephan> it says "no proprietary drivers in use on thsi sytem"
[03:33] <intelikey> stephan when you click admin mode ?
[03:33] <stephan> yep
[03:34] <intelikey> oh kay
[03:34] <stephan> when i click admin mode, it starts to think and tgehn comes back to the same screen
[03:34] <CaBlGuY> thanks intelikey I got sound but it's weird..  I'm looking on the realtek website right now..
[03:35] <intelikey> CaBlGuY yeah i never got any help out of that page either.   seems to never be anything applicable
[03:35] <CaBlGuY> intelikey:  indeed..
[03:36] <intelikey> stephan ok that sounds like the  kdesu != kdesudo (so called bug)
[03:36] <bmk789> anyone using yahoo messenger in kopete?
[03:37] <intelikey> stephan use   pstree   or   ps ax   or something and find the name of the app and call it with kdesudo appname   then you will have admin rights
[03:37] <CaBlGuY> ummm  I have never tried this but, is there a way to make the drivers work that are on the install CD???
[03:38] <CaBlGuY> I've no ideal at all how to do that but, I know some people have done it b4..
[03:38] <intelikey> stephan there is a known issue.  should be a fix soon.   you can check the forums.  it may already exist
[03:38] <slanier> wow okay I got it figured out
[03:38] <intelikey> slanier and the answer is ?
[03:39] <slanier> let me post....
[03:39] <slanier> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52223/
[03:39] <slanier> I had to delete EVERYTHING that tried to write the windows partition
[03:39] <slanier> it causes write errors because linux cant write to it
[03:40] <slanier> booted with that, started up like a champ
[03:41] <intelikey> CaBlGuY yes   you can boot the live and lsmod | grep -v Size | cut -d' ' -f1 > modules.list       and use that for a list of the modulse to load.   copy the list to the installed /etc/modules    and the system should load everything the live cd did
[03:41] <intelikey> slanier the savedefault   line
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[03:43] <slanier> yeah I deleted the savedefault, and the makeactive
[03:43] <CaBlGuY> intelikey:  ummmm  actauly, I was talking about the actual driver CD that I got with the MOBO..  :p
[03:43] <intelikey> yes.  but the partition was already active so that should have been moot
[03:43] <slanier> i found this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-417908.html
[03:43] <intelikey> CaBlGuY oh.   windows drivers in linux ?
[03:44] <slanier> and i just folled what audiobahn did...worked good :)
[03:44] <slanier> err followed
[03:44] <CaBlGuY> intelikey:  indeed...  I know it can be done but, I don't know how and I have never done it..
[03:44] <intelikey> !ndiswarper
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndiswarper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <intelikey> !ndiswraper
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndiswraper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <intelikey> !dumb bot
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dumb bot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <CaBlGuY> lol
[03:45] <intelikey> CaBlGuY anyway ndiswraper i think is what you are asking about
[03:45] <NickPresta> !ndiswrapper
[03:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:45] <NickPresta> =)
[03:45] <intelikey> yeah   PP   my bad.
[03:45] <CaBlGuY> Hmmm  ok, I'll take a looky at it..
[03:46] <slanier> thanks for the help intelikey! at least i finally got it working :p
[03:46] <intelikey> CaBlGuY note.  not a good idea to use a windows driver when there is also a native linux module for the same device.   conflicts could do strange things.
[03:47] <intelikey> slanier welcome,  and i'll make a note of that solution too.
[03:47]  * intelikey doesn't do windows, so has never messed with ntfs really.
[03:47] <mith_> if i try to install a .deb package... the gdebi says "missing .deb package" does anybody know what is this?
[03:48] <CaBlGuY> intelikey:  indeed, I understand but, I have seen a couple other forums postings of people having issues with ALC883 drivers as well..
[03:48] <intelikey> mith_ may i ask why you are installing a .deb that is not from the ubuntu repos ?
[03:49] <intelikey> mith_ at any rate.   sudo dpkg -i /path/to/filename.deb
[03:49] <CaBlGuY> so, I hate to just be able to use windowz but, at current state, I just might have to.. :-O
[03:49] <intelikey> CaBlGuY that reeks of monopolitarianism doesn't
[03:49] <intelikey> it
[03:50] <mith_> limewire and skype aren't in the repos and i need them thats okay i know the konsole things but i didn' do anything whit the gdebi and it's not normal it doesn't work.
[03:50] <ardchoille> mith_: Are you on Gutsy?
[03:50] <nnaushahi> hi
[03:50] <nnaushahi> got a question
[03:50] <CaBlGuY> intelikey:  LOL.. indeed...  and I hate to revert but, I gotta have sound..  I do a lot of video editing so, ya know..
[03:51] <nnaushahi> i  wanna know the ip of my ubuntu server
[03:51] <mith_> yes kubuntu gutsy
[03:51] <ardchoille> !skype | mith_
[03:51] <ubotu> mith_: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[03:51] <ArthurB> hi guys... anyone know how to configure kde4's system tray ?
[03:51] <intelikey> CaBlGuY indeed.   best of "tra bon chance" to ya.
[03:51] <nnaushahi> when i run, ifconfig , doesnt give me external ip address
[03:51] <ardchoille> !limewire > mith_
[03:52] <CaBlGuY> Dance intelikey  ;)
[03:52] <CaBlGuY> *Danke
[03:52] <intelikey> welcome
[03:52] <niall> i'm on amd64, which pacakges do I need for 32bit support?
[03:52] <mith_> okay thanks
[03:53] <nnaushahi> anyone? help ?
[03:53] <rake> When Kubuntu 8 comes out, will I be able to do a system update? As in, will the OS need to be re-installed? And if Kubunu 8 comes with KDE4, will the GUI be replaced by default after a reboot?
[03:53] <ArthurB> nnaushahi: try to restart networking
[03:53] <ArthurB> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:54] <nnaushahi> k , lemme try
[03:54] <niall> rake: you'll be able to upgrade to Kubuntu 8.04 through the update manager thing
[03:54] <bazhang> rake: you mean upgrade via the net--or a fresh install
[03:54] <rake> No I definately do not want to re-install.
[03:54] <ardchoille> niall: And Kubuntu 8.04 will have kde 3.5 and kde4 as options
[03:54] <niall> apparanently
[03:55] <niall> I read it's going to come with both
[03:55] <boitono> I'm having an issue with KDE on 7.04, after entering my password at the KDM login prompt, the screen flashes, then takes me back to the login prompt in an endless loop.  This happening on 2 machines of mine, is there a current issue surrounding this?
[03:55] <niall> I assume yuo can pick which one you want to log into using the sessions menu on the login screen
[03:55] <intelikey> nnaushahi ifconfig should list the local ip and the nearest gateway. if that's a router it may list the external     i'm not well versed in that  but if you are on a nat  then you don't actually have an external ip   you use the one of the gateway
[03:55] <draik> What handles m4v (iPod video)?
[03:55] <draik> Hi intelikey
[03:55] <intelikey> draik shalom
[03:56] <niall> anyone know how to solve this problem? http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3862/snapshot2nu9.png
[03:57] <adz21c> niall: need to install the ia32 packages i believe
[03:57] <adz21c> niall: and/or lib32
[03:57] <nnaushahi> i am not using router ... i am using a switch
[03:59] <niall> adz21c: thanks, there's a lot of them though, do I isntall everything with ia32 and lib32 at the front?
[03:59] <adz21c> niall: i have ia32-libs and ia32-libs-kde installed, try them and see if it works (i have q4 installed as well :-) )
[04:00] <boitono> anyone have any ideas concerning my issue?
[04:01] <intelikey> boitono full disk ?
[04:01] <boitono> one of the machines had a full disk but has since been cleaned up but still does the same thing
[04:01] <adz21c> niall: if it doesn't work after that then i also have installed lib32asound2, lib32gcc1, lib32ncurses5, lib32stdc++6, lib32z1, thats all 32bit apps i know of
[04:02] <sub[t]rnl> nnaushahi➜ http://subtrnl.homelinux.com/getip <-- little script to grab an external ip.  save and chmod u+x it
[04:02] <niall> i might just tick all the lib32 boxes
[04:02] <sigma_1234> !mp4
[04:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:02] <intelikey> boitono how was it cleaned up ?    moving things to trash does not free up space.
[04:02] <adz21c> niall: can do, but like i said, i installed q4 fine some having those should do it
[04:02] <niall> adz21c: when I ticked the ones you told me to, it also added some others aswell, so I might be ok
[04:02] <boitono> rm BIGFILE
[04:02] <intelikey> k
[04:03] <boitono> df shows space available
[04:03] <niall> adz21c: \o/
[04:03] <niall> thanks a lot
[04:03] <adz21c> niall: good times
[04:03] <intelikey> boitono for user or root ?
[04:03] <boitono> user
[04:03] <intelikey> k
[04:04] <boitono> what kind of issues can be caused by a full disk that will not clear up after freeing up space?
[04:04] <intelikey> own your home ?     sudo chown `whoami` $HOME -r
[04:04] <intelikey> ooops
[04:04] <intelikey> own your home ?     sudo chown `whoami` $HOME -R
[04:04] <intelikey> case sensitive.
[04:05] <boitono> k
[04:05] <sigma_1234> how do i convert a mp4 file to avi?
[04:06] <boitono> intelikey, it's going to take a while
[04:06] <boitono> any other ideas in the mean time?
[04:06] <michaelnovakjr> anyone running Kubuntu on a Thinkpad?
[04:07] <boitono> I am
[04:07] <michaelnovakjr> boitono: which model?
[04:08] <michaelnovakjr> i am having install problems
[04:08] <boitono> T42
[04:08] <draik> Anyone know what handles m4v (iPod video)?
[04:08] <michaelnovakjr> i am running a T30
[04:08] <intelikey> boitono drastic, but;  rm -r $HOME/.kde*
[04:08] <boitono> I already tried mv .kde .kde.bu
[04:08] <boitono> no love
[04:08] <nnaushahi> ok so am stil stuck h
[04:08] <sigma_1234> kubuntu giving install problems? first time i heard that!
[04:08] <michaelnovakjr> it shows the grub screen but after that I don't get a Kubuntu load screen
[04:09] <nnaushahi> when i check ifconfig
[04:09] <nnaushahi> for eth0   says, Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00 (mac address ....)
[04:09] <intelikey> boitono well one other thing i can think of.   make sure that /tmp is  drwxrwxrwt 4 root root     and not full.
[04:09] <sigma_1234> hmmm, what do you see after grub?
[04:10] <nnaushahi> inet6 addr: f380: ... ... ...
[04:10] <michaelnovakjr> sigma_1234: i get a blank screen
[04:10] <nnaushahi> it doesnt give me the actual ip address
[04:10] <sub[t]rnl> nnaushahi➜ http://subtrnl.homelinux.com/getip
[04:11] <boitono> intelikey, I think the chown worked, what made you suspect that?
[04:11] <nnaushahi> what is that for sub ?
[04:11] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> hello i have a problem with kaffeine, with the subtiltes of the movies: when italic style must be use in the screens appears "<i>blah blah blah </i> i guessed that shoud be in italic cuz thats html but kaffeine shows the code. first i thought it was the subtitle file but it happens with every one i download, so they cant be all wrong xD"
[04:12] <intelikey> boitono natural process of elumination  :)
[04:12] <intelikey> boitono actually called   been there   done that.
[04:12] <intelikey> !kdesudo | boitono
[04:12] <ubotu> boitono: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[04:14]  * intelikey learned everything he knows about computers by the "try it and reformat" methood.
[04:14] <michaelnovakjr> sigma_1234: i am able to get a shell in recovery mode
[04:14] <sigma_1234> michael: are you sure the install completed sucessfully?
[04:15] <michaelnovakjr> sigma_1234: yep...it said it completed successfully
[04:15] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> huh nick collision?
[04:15] <michaelnovakjr> do you know what video drivers ibm thinkpad's use?
[04:15] <boitono> well thank you intelikey, you have made my night, I owe you a beer if you are ever in San Antonio
[04:16]  * intelikey collects on debts.  ;/
[04:16] <sigma_1234> michael: do you know what video chipset it has? i guess its intel or ati mobility
[04:16] <michaelnovakjr> i'll check ibm's website
[04:17] <intelikey> lspci  or  lshw
[04:17] <sigma_1234> try disabling the splash screen because safe mode doesnt use it
[04:18] <sigma_1234> it could just do the trick
[04:19] <michaelnovakjr> how do i do that?
[04:19] <sigma_1234> also check xorg.conf. it wil tell you what video chipset it is
[04:19] <michaelnovakjr> ati mobility
[04:20] <intelikey> at the grub menu   [esc]  [e] select the kernel line and  [e] add no to splash so that it reads nosplash   [b] to boot    <<< test with that
[04:20] <sigma_1234> edit the /grub/menu.lst as root. find the boot string and change the variable usplash from 1 to 0.
[04:21] <sigma_1234> ouch my bad!
[04:21] <oldude67> where can i find all the restricted stuff on ubuntus web pages?
[04:21] <intelikey> if it fixes you, then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and make the change perminant
[04:21] <sigma_1234> oldude67: what are you looking for?
[04:22] <oldude67> the codecs for my dvd burner
[04:22] <michaelnovakjr> i am trying the nosplash now
[04:22] <oldude67> so i can watch a movie on it.
[04:23] <michaelnovakjr> what is the video ram minimum for kubuntu?
[04:23] <sigma_1234> oldude67: install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:23] <oldude67> i tried googling it but it gave me a million and one pages of what i dont need.
[04:23] <intelikey> michaelnovakjr 4m i think
[04:23] <oldude67> ok thanks
[04:23] <sigma_1234> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:23] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[04:25] <intelikey> michaelnovakjr if you mean "true minimum"  which i doubt.  then  0
[04:25] <michaelnovakjr> nosplash didn't do it
[04:26] <intelikey> i assumed you meant for the gui to work normally.  then i think it's 4m
[04:26] <michaelnovakjr> yes
[04:26] <tailsfan> Is it possible to just compile flash from Adobe?
[04:27] <sigma_1234> tailsfan: yeah. i did it
[04:27] <tailsfan> OK, because flash is broken it says and I was wondeirng if that;ll fix the problem
[04:28] <intelikey> !flash | tailsfan there is a howto here
[04:28] <ubotu> tailsfan there is a howto here: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:28] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[04:30]  * tailsfan wonders how long it'll take ot download his updates
[04:31] <sigma_1234> pretty long im guesing:)
[04:31] <michaelnovakjr> this is weird
[04:31] <michaelnovakjr> never had any problems with kubuntu
[04:32] <sigma_1234> have you tried re installing it?
[04:32] <michaelnovakjr> yep
[04:33] <sigma_1234> have you tried googling it?
[04:33] <michaelnovakjr> yea, haven't fonud anything
[04:33] <michaelnovakjr> i am trying the release before the current
[04:34] <michaelnovakjr> what is weird is that it works off the live cd without a problek
[04:35] <intelikey> ooops found a bug.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d77f06d52
[04:36] <intelikey> seems that dealocatevt checks for 'tty?'  not 'tty? '   as it should.
[04:37] <intelikey> my process table   just to confirm.    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d6e98817b
[04:41] <niall> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:41] <niall> anyone got any idea what that's all about?
[04:42] <till_> niall: may be "sudo apt-get install build-essential" ?
[04:42] <michaelnovakjr> you need to build essientials
[04:43] <niall> thanks ;D
[04:45] <niall> more errors :<
[04:45] <niall> 'checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!'
[04:46] <stdin> !compile | niall
[04:46] <ubotu> niall: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[04:46] <niall> thanks ;D
[04:49] <niall> I'm working it out ok, the errors really give away which packages I need :}
[04:51] <oldude67> actually its apt-get install build-essential
[04:53] <niall> hmm
[04:53] <niall> the configure went ok
[04:53] <niall> so I did make, and that seemed fine
[04:53] <oldude67> now make install
[04:53] <michaelnovakjr> sudo make install
[04:54] <niall> ya
[04:54] <niall> i just missed the sudo off
[04:54] <niall> thanks
[04:54] <michaelnovakjr> no problem
[04:54] <niall> hurrah
[04:54] <niall> thanks guys ;D
[04:55] <michaelnovakjr> anytim
[04:55] <oldude67> niall, you might want to do sudo make clean
[04:57] <niall> oldude67: thanks for the tip
[04:57] <niall> right
[04:57] <niall> it's nearly 5am
[04:58] <niall> I need to goto bed
[04:58] <niall> nn, thanks for all the help
[05:02] <chris062689> Hola.
[05:06] <chris062689> From a "real" standpoint, would you advise upgrading to 8.04 Kubuntu?  I realize it's beta, and I'm willing to accept the hickups, but nothing major right?
[05:16] <bazhang> just alpha at this point
[05:16] <michaelnovakjr> I would not recommend it
[05:16] <michaelnovakjr> not if you use your machine for anything useful or important
[05:17] <bazhang> three months plus to release
[05:18] <chris062689> not really.
[05:18] <chris062689> :P
[05:18] <michaelnovakjr> by all means... i am not impressed with the new kde4 stuff
[05:19] <michaelnovakjr> the panel is really ugly... i installed the kde 4 stuff for about 20 minutes and just didn't like the k menu or any part of the panel
[05:22] <emilsedgh> michaelnovakjr: KDE4 != KDE 4.0.0
[05:23] <michaelnovakjr> difference?
[05:24] <chris062689> KDE4 refers to the whole release cycle.
[05:24] <chris062689> That's like saying KDE 3 is KDE 3.1 instead of KDE 3.9
[05:24] <chris062689> I actually like KDE 4.... sorry :P
[05:25] <chris062689> I just wish they would hurry up with the polishes and patch up missing support.
[05:25] <Jucato> KDE 4.0 is not all of KDE 4. KDE 4.0 is also not KDE 3.6. #kubuntu is also not the place for KDE 4 discussion. we have #kubuntu-kde4 for that :)
[05:25] <chris062689> It's like 12:30am theres no one here so we might as well talk about it here :P
[05:26] <Jucato> nice try... but not quite :)
[05:27] <bazhang> chris062689: perhaps where you are; not so for others
[05:31] <chris062689> true
[05:31] <chris062689> but it's pretty dead in here >_>
[05:35] <posingaspopular> chris062689: thats because kubuntu is perfect ;p
[05:36] <posingaspopular> im spreading that rumor everywhere i go
[05:36] <bazhang> not a rumor
[05:36] <chris062689> ha.
[05:36] <chris062689> Interesting theory.
[05:37] <chris062689> Then why doesn't Kubuntu have 100% of the market share?  That makes it imperfect on a economical standpoint :P
[05:37] <bazhang> #kubuntu-offtopic chris062689
[05:38] <chris062689> anyway...
[05:39] <chris062689> Is there a compiz package / compiz manager for Kubuntu yet? x_x
[05:39] <bazhang> !ccsm
[05:39] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[05:39] <chris062689> -_-
[05:39] <chris062689> I know that
[05:39] <Jucato> chris062689: it's going to be in hardy I believe
[05:39] <chris062689> but last time I installed ccsm it went erally screwy.
[05:39] <chris062689> Ah ok.
[05:40] <chris062689> Kubuntu really needs to play catchip
[05:40] <chris062689> catchup*
[05:40] <chris062689> I assume these packages will be for KDE4? (QT4?)
[05:40] <Jucato> compiz? no
[05:41] <Jucato> it's not exactly easy to catch up when the tools you need to catch up with are specifically biased towards GTK/GNOME
[05:41] <bazhang> heh
[05:41] <Jucato> it's also not easy to catch up when you lack people to do the work. we're not Ubuntu, you know
[05:42] <bazhang> kubuntu > all the rest
[05:42] <chris062689> true
[05:43] <chris062689> We need more developers.
[05:43] <chris062689> Well, I'm learning python now..
[05:43] <chris062689> Just not.. QT >_>
[05:43] <chris062689> *not the QT bindings
[05:43] <chris062689> Perhaps I should :)
[05:43] <Jucato> you can always just learn that later on
[05:43] <Jucato> yeah PyQt and PyKDE would be nice for you;
[05:43] <Jucato> oops. I just C++'ed that
[05:43] <chris062689> lol
[05:43] <chris062689> !pykde
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pykde - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <chris062689> !pyqt
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pyqt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <Jucato> !info pyqt
[05:44] <ubotu> Package pyqt does not exist in gutsy
[05:44] <Jucato> er.. hm..
[05:44] <chris062689> IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE UBOTU!
[05:44]  * chris062689 smacks ubotu
[05:44] <Jucato> !caps | chris062689
[05:44] <ubotu> chris062689: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:44] <Jucato> !info pyqt-tools
[05:44] <ubotu> pyqt-tools: pyuic and pylupdate for Qt3. In component main, is optional. Version 3.17.3-2ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 240 kB, installed size 592 kB
[05:44] <chris062689> hmm
[05:44] <Jucato> !info pykdeextensions
[05:44] <ubotu> pykdeextensions: Python packages to support KDE applications (scripts). In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.0-4ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 93 kB, installed size 712 kB
[05:44] <chris062689> whats the difference between pyKDE and PyQT?
[05:45] <Jucato> the same difference between KDE and Qt :D
[05:45] <Jucato> pyqt are Python bindings for Qt only. pykde is for KDE
[05:45] <chris062689> which would you suggest for Kubuntu development?
[05:45] <chris062689> I assume pykde.
[05:46] <Jucato> either or. pykde4 right now isn't still ready I think. but pyqt4 is
[05:47] <chris062689> hmm
[05:47]  * jalbert is happy
[05:47] <jalbert> My server arrived today
[05:47] <chris062689> would there be a huge difference between pykde3x and pykde4x?
[05:47] <jalbert> well, like 4/5 of it anyway
[05:47] <chris062689> And what would I need to get started?
[05:47] <Jucato> chris062689: the difference between KDE 3 and KDE 4 (when it comes to API)
[05:47] <Jucato> and that's a lot :)
[05:50] <chris062689> so..
[05:50] <chris062689> Would I have to change a lot of the code?
[05:51] <Jucato> maaaybe... that depends... but probably yes... KDE 3 stuff need to be ported to KDE 4... but i'm no expert either :)
[05:53] <chris062689> meh
[05:53] <chris062689> I just don't want to learn something that will be outdated.
[05:53] <chris062689> Or: Is outdated.
[05:54] <Jucato> well most "new" development is on Qt4 and KDE 4... but Qt 3 and KDE 3 will be around for quite some time... take your pick
[05:59] <oldude67> can you copy one linux partition and everything on it to another drive? and keep it bootable?
[06:00] <oldude67> like i have 6.5 gig hard drive in my router box and i want to copy it over to this 20 gig drive can i do that with out trashing the linux that is on it?
[06:48] <se7en_> anyone know why i can't boot a any.iso with qemu ... fatal: not a bootable disk ...
[06:51] <Goop2> does anyone know how to make openGL work on gutsy?
[06:52] <Goop2> nothing using openGL will work at all since I updated to it
[06:53] <throttle> hey guys... Adept Manager keeps ending unexpectedly...
[06:55] <fulat2k> hi folks, is there a gtk style setting i can set in kde4 similar to what kde3 has?
[06:57] <michaelnovakjr>  KDE 4 discussion. we have #kubuntu-kde4
[06:57] <michaelnovakjr> that is where the KDE 4 experts are
[07:28] <KalEl> hi, i've installed ubuntu, to install kde 4 do i just sudo apt-get install kde?
[07:29] <Jucato> KalEl: please read the channel topic
[07:29] <KalEl> right, thanks Jucato
[07:34] <crackhead_25_> michaelnovakjr, somethin went very wrong
[07:34] <michaelnovakjr> what happened?
[07:35] <crackhead_25_> (i'm on my windows laptop now btw.. ) so i logged out.. then tried to log back in.. no mouse cursor..
[07:35] <crackhead_25_> so i reboot the whole computer.. it's going to startup.. and it gives an error.. can't find resume image?
[07:35] <crackhead_25_> and so it lands me at a console.. i do kwin.. it says can't start xengine
[07:36] <crackhead_25_> i'm at the console right now
[07:36] <ardchoille> crackhead_25_: I don't think you can use kwin by itself, try: startx
[07:36] <michaelnovakjr> ys
[07:36] <michaelnovakjr> yes
[07:36] <michaelnovakjr> also if that doesn't work disable the nvidia and reboot
[07:36] <crackhead_25_> it got a n error.. failed to load nvidia kernel module..
[07:36] <crackhead_25_> screens found, but none have usable config..
[07:37] <ardchoille> crackhead_25_: aha, problem with your video driver
[07:37] <michaelnovakjr> indeed
[07:37] <Daisuke_Ido> ah ha.  yeah, you did a kernel update i'm guessing
[07:37] <michaelnovakjr> driver update
[07:37] <crackhead_25_> well that was a while ago.. it had restarted since then
[07:37] <crackhead_25_> that was like hours ago earlier
[07:38] <crackhead_25_> well, or maybe it wasn't.. michael, was it? you tell 'em.. you know.. i was following michael's directions :P :) :)
[07:38] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[07:38] <michaelnovakjr> you attempted the nvidia driver update
[07:38] <crackhead_25_> yes yes
[07:38] <Daisuke_Ido> via the repositories?
[07:38] <michaelnovakjr> you can disable the nvidia
[07:38] <michaelnovakjr> pkg install
[07:38] <crackhead_25_> just tell me how i should fix all this! :)
[07:39] <crackhead_25_> apt-get uninstall nvidia?
[07:39] <michaelnovakjr> no
[07:39] <crackhead_25_> how can i revert the driver usage to the nv rather than nvidia driver?
[07:39] <crackhead_25_> will that do it?
[07:39] <michaelnovakjr> sudo nvidia-glx-config disable
[07:40] <crackhead_25_> i did that.. it saysw error: your x config has been altered.. this script cannot proceed auto.. if you belive incorrect, update the md4sum ntra by doing md5sum /etc/.. sudo tee.. otherwise edit manually.. xorg.conf.. to change driver from nvidia to nv
[07:41] <michaelnovakjr> ok, so modify your xorg to use the nv and then reboot
[07:42] <crackhead_25_> ok i did that.. rebooting..
[07:43] <crackhead_25_> i hope this works ::fingers crossed::
[07:44] <crackhead_25_> i think it worked.. i see the login..!! woot!
[07:44] <michaelnovakjr> nice
[07:44] <crackhead_25_> yup yup.. ok.. back in business..
[07:44] <crackhead_25_> one sec
[07:47] <crackhead_25> what's the command to switch my currently used login here in the irc channel? anyone know?
[07:47] <Jucato> crackhead_25: /nick <nickname>
[08:00] <AlexSFBay> is kde 4.0 only avail on Hardy -- or can I get it on Gutsy
[08:02] <ardchoille> !kde4 | AlexSFBay
[08:02] <ubotu> AlexSFBay: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[08:03] <AlexSFBay> saw that just wondering if it's available via my current Gutsy install
[08:03] <AlexSFBay> Seems like it's only on Hardy
[08:03] <ardchoille> AlexSFBay: Ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[08:07] <shota> hi
[08:07] <ardchoille> hi shota
[08:08] <shota> is anyone here who works with localization of LeMill?
[09:01] <sikun> i am trying to get the wireless working on my laptop, it has a broadcom 1350 adapter.. but it seems that the bcm43xx driver is failing on boot
[09:01] <sikun> what its saying in the dmesg is bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fx" not available or load failed
[09:02] <emilsedgh> sikun: did you try restricted drivers manager?
[09:02] <sikun> hmm.. no
[09:02] <emilsedgh> sikun: from System Settings->Advanced->Restricted Manager
[09:02] <sikun> how do i go about doing that
[09:05] <sikun> wow
[09:05] <o-dog> morning
[09:05] <o-dog> does anyone know how to help me with gf ti4200 full support?
[09:06] <o-dog> it just doesn't seem to find any proper drivers (just generic) and i can't get it running good
[09:06] <sikun> heh
[09:06] <sikun> that was easy
[09:11] <progreSSive> hi everybody
[09:11] <o-dog> hi
[09:11] <progreSSive> do you people know any sybase channels?
[09:11] <progreSSive> pleease
[09:11] <o-dog> sry, i can't help :)
[09:16] <jack_> hello
[09:16] <o-dog> hello
[09:31] <wesley> how can you install easy armarok 2 alpha in kubuntu ?
[09:33] <Jucato> you can't. not without 1) downloading the sources from SVN and 2) compiling it from source
[09:36] <Dragonath> hey, any tutorials on setting up an ssh tunnel? I need to remote into a computer that's on a remote network
[09:37] <Jucato> let's see if the bot knows
[09:37] <Jucato> !ssh
[09:37] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[09:37] <o-dog> for windows :D
[09:38] <o-dog> !graphic card
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphic card - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <Dragonath> heh, I know what ssh is
[09:39] <ardchoille> o-dog: nvidia?
[09:39] <Dragonath> I just need a bit of help setting up the tunnel and connecting to my work pc
[09:40] <o-dog> ardchoille, gf ti4200
[09:40] <ardchoille> !nvidia | o-dog
[09:40] <ubotu> o-dog: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:40] <squid0> hello! I'm running Gutsy, and ctrl + alt + backspace has no effect.
[09:40] <Jucato> Dragonath: there might be some tutorials in the the help wiki
[09:40] <squid0> how do fix that?
[09:40] <o-dog> thanks
[09:41] <ardchoille> squid0: That is a "dirty" way of restarting xorg anyway, the proper way is: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[09:41] <squid0> ardchoille: that's correct, but my alternative would otherwise be a hard reboot, which is much more damaging to my system
[09:42] <ardchoille> squid0: Are you able to ctrl+alt+f1 and log in?
[09:43] <o-dog> damn, now i'm getting scared
[09:43] <o-dog> i'll get a blank screen soon :D
[09:43] <squid0> during boot-up, I can switch among tty terminals, but once in KDE, pressing ctrl+alt+f1 actually takes me to workspace 1, and ctrl+alt+f2 to workspace 2...
[09:44] <ardchoille> squid0: Never seen that before
[09:44] <squid0> ardchoille: hm. maybe it's in keyboard shortcut settings
[09:44] <wesley> where can i get that tar then ?
[09:45] <wesley> from amarok 2 alpha
[09:45] <ardchoille> wesley: Are you sure you want to install an "alpha" release of an app?
[09:45] <wesley> yes why not
[09:46] <kraut> hi
[09:46] <ardchoille> wesley: Aplha releases are usually for bug testers/hunters and usually not complete or cn act in ways not intended by the devs
[09:46] <kraut> i've got a problem with an old edgy-installation. i like to have a transparent background in konsole but it doesn't really work when i configure it
[09:46] <wesley> if it will not work i kill it
[09:46] <kraut> i know that i need to remave a package to get it working, but don't remember it's name
[09:47] <kraut> does anybody know, which package i need to remove to fix this issue?
[09:47] <kraut> i think it was any lib-package...
[09:48] <Jucato> wesley: there is no tar. you have to download from svn. I think the amarok website has instructions
[09:48] <noaXess> ho
[09:49] <messiah> hola que hay
[09:49] <ardchoille> !es | messiah
[09:50] <ubotu> messiah: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[09:50] <messiah> thx
[09:52] <till_> "The Flash plugin installation is currently broken" - so it's now impossible to install flash player in firefox in gutsy or may be there any untrivial way?
[09:52] <ardchoille> !flash | till_
[09:52] <ubotu> till_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:53] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[09:53] <till_> lol
[09:54] <till_> thanks although
[09:55] <senorpedro> is it possible to set a member-variable ($this->blabla = 'asdf' ) in the constructor of an action-object?
[09:55] <senorpedro> i always get an error when i try to do so
[09:56] <senorpedro> sorry, wrong channel ;)
[09:56] <ardchoille> senorpedro: I was about to ask about that :)
[09:56] <senorpedro> ...its too early in the morning
[10:03] <o-dog> bah
[10:03] <o-dog> i'm a total newbie in this stuff, windows has corrupted me
[10:04] <zetheroo> is it possible for me to install the KDE network manager in Ubuntu?
[10:05] <Tm_T> yes
[10:05] <Tm_T> just install it
[10:06] <zetheroo> shoudl I uninstall the Gnome one first?
[10:08] <o-dog> are you installing it thru apt?
[10:08] <sigma_> how do i install kdenlive? I downloaded all the dependencies but they all depend on each other and thus cannot be installed
[10:09] <o-dog> and how the hell do i get links to applications work on desktop :P
[10:10] <o-dog> they all work, almost. it tries to start the application but it never starts
[10:11] <o-dog> ! applications
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about applications - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <till_> sigma_: "sudo apt-get -f install"  but it can to install all dependencies on the one hand , or to uninstall on the other hand..
[10:11] <till_> sigma_: so use it with caution :)
[10:13] <o-dog> argh :/
[10:13] <o-dog> it just says it's missing important files, so have i set the working folder wrong?
[10:14] <o-dog> because the program works fine when launched from console
[10:16] <sigma_> till_: what does that command do?
[10:17] <till_> sigma_: attempts to correct a system with broken dependencies in place
[10:19] <sigma_> till_: ok well i just used apt-get install and it miraculously fixed it!
[10:20] <till_> sigma_: bingo! :)
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[10:42] <sigma_> how do i know if my microphone is working?
[10:43] <sigma_> in kmix there is a mic and mic boost setting and it has a green light on top and a red light at the bottom - what does it mean when each of these lights are on?
[10:44] <ibou> hello
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, that they are active usually
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> ibou, hi
[10:45] <atreyu> hi
[10:45] <sigma_> ActionParsnip: do both the green and red lights have to be on for them to be active?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, afaik you just want green light. let me google
[10:46] <trond> how hard can it be to install compiz so i can get the 3dcube? when i install compiz, i won't let me turn on any of the effects. seems like it's not turned on or something...
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, try this http://notes.minty.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TX1XP_-_Multimedia
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> atreyu, hi
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> !hi | atreyu
[10:47] <ubotu> atreyu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> !compiz | trond
[10:47] <ubotu> trond: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:48] <sigma_> ActionParsnip: yeah im trying to use skype, i can hear myself talking into the mic but the computer is picking up nothing
[10:48] <trond> thanks!
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, http://forum.skype.com/lofiversion/index.php/t29149.html
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, did you google at all?
[10:57] <ubuntu> hello @ all .. somebody knows a channel about m$ administration (exchange?) thanks alot =)
[10:57] <sigma__> ActionParsnip: thanks for the link - its working perfectly now
[10:58] <sigma__> ubuntu: ask in #windows
[10:59] <ubuntu> thank you :)
[10:59] <lunnoo> buenass
[10:59] <lunnoo> cu cuu
[11:00] <ardchoille> !es | lunnoo
[11:00] <ubotu> lunnoo: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[11:16] <ibou> is there a package to use my internet connexion to fax documents ?
[11:31] <DreadKnight> what's the comand line name for the kpackage kde4 thingy?
[11:32] <DreadKnight> can't manage to open it with kdesudo :|
[11:32] <emilsedgh> adept_manager ?
[11:33] <DreadKnight> emilsedgh: i can use adept manager to install .deb files i have in the pc? :P
[11:33] <emilsedgh> DreadKnight: oh, use gdebi for that :)
[11:34] <DreadKnight> emilsedgh: i was afraid of that.. need to install that will all the gnome dependecies.. how lame
[11:34] <DreadKnight> it even takes ages to install something with it
[11:34] <emilsedgh> DreadKnight: no no! gdebi has a KDE version and is installed in gutsy
[11:35] <DreadKnight> emilsedgh: hmm
[11:35] <emilsedgh> btw, use commandLine for that which is the best option
[11:35] <lesenscommun> hi
[11:35] <DreadKnight> emilsedgh: it's still crappy as i recall... will look into adept :|
[11:36] <leafw> any news on sleep/suspend working or not in gutsy + thinkpads + ati cards?
[11:36] <lesenscommun> do you know how to translate firefox 3 in other langauges, in french for me
[11:36] <lesenscommun> ?
[11:36] <leafw> lesenscommun : you need to set the locales
[11:37] <DreadKnight> lesenscommun: ff3 is not official, so language packs aren't complete for sure
[11:37] <leafw> search for 'locale' in ubuntu forums
[11:37] <lesenscommun> ok thanks
[11:38] <DreadKnight> bah, the gnome gdebi works a lot better for me than the kde one :|
[11:50] <zetheroo> why is it that when I install a fresh copy of Kubuntu 7.10 there is no wireless networks automatically detected?.... but in Ubuntu 7.10 its working perfectly....! Why?
[11:50] <zetheroo> I can see Knetworkmanager but its says no active devices
[11:51] <zetheroo> which is rubbish because the wifi card is enabled and active in the network properties area
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Morning Folks :-)
[11:55] <zetheroo> anyone?
[11:55] <BluesKaj> !wifi | zetheroo
[11:55] <ubotu> zetheroo: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:55] <zetheroo> yeah... but it works outta the box in Ubuntu
[11:56] <zetheroo> why in the world would it not work in Kubuntu also?
[11:56] <DreadKnight> zetheroo: different network managers
[11:56] <zetheroo> so the one in Kubuntu is useless... I have had this issue with Kubuntu since 3 releases ago
[11:57] <zetheroo> why do they not make one that just works?... like in Ubuntu?
[11:57] <zetheroo> I should not have to fiddle around with it in this day and age
[11:57] <DreadKnight> zetheroo: file a bug report...
[11:57] <zetheroo> what network manager do you use in Kubuntu?
[11:58] <zetheroo> I don't see why me filing a bug report would help.... its been like this on numerous machines for a long time now
[11:58] <DreadKnight> zetheroo: knetworkmanager, but since i'm on kde4, knetworkmanager-kde4
[11:58] <BluesKaj> zetheroo, what wifi device ?
[11:58] <zetheroo> its an Atheros min PCI
[11:59] <zetheroo> but its happened with other ones too before.....
[11:59] <zetheroo> in the Network Properties the card is there, using the restricted drivers.... enabled and raring to go
[11:59] <zetheroo> but the network manager is just useless
[12:00] <DreadKnight> but by rightclicking you see the wireless enabled?
[12:00] <zetheroo> yes
[12:00] <zetheroo> and I have the option to disable it
[12:03] <zetheroo> so?
[12:03] <zetheroo> any ideas?
[12:07] <BluesKaj> zetheroo, have you tried enabling the automatic settings in knetwork manager ...just making comments like 'useless' doesn't tell much abou the problem
[12:07] <zetheroo> well how does one enable automatic settings?
[12:08] <zetheroo> in Ubuntu there is no need to do that...... and I though Kubuntu was keeping up !?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> open knetwork manager /options/configure
[12:11] <zetheroo> the only automatic option there is is for the knetworkmanager to startup with login
[12:11] <zetheroo> thats on by default
[12:11] <Lynoure> hmm, suddenly I don't seem to be able to print pdfs I have exported from OpenOffice anymore
[12:12] <BluesKaj> then try manual config
[12:12] <zetheroo> so.... yeah.... not much there.....
[12:12] <zetheroo> what?
[12:12] <zetheroo> why should I have to manually configure my network?
[12:12] <zetheroo> this is 2008
[12:12] <Lynoure> kprintjob just says Error  on them, any way to get more info on what was is wrong?
[12:12] <zetheroo> and that mean that everywhere I go I have to manually configure the netowrk?
[12:13] <zetheroo> thats no good at all.... sorry
[12:13] <BluesKaj> ah NM , you obviously don't want help , compalining is more fun for you...if you decide you want assistance , ask for it.
[12:13] <zetheroo> I have asked
[12:14] <zetheroo> and you have not really given me anything,,,,, its ok... I understand if you just don't know
[12:14] <Lynoure> zetheroo: knetwork-manager works for me. It assumes dhcp, though.
[12:14] <zetheroo> I just thought someone in here might have a clue
[12:14] <zetheroo> Lynoure: dhcp is what I use too
[12:14] <Lynoure> zetheroo: but it might help if you breathed couple of times and calmed down :)
[12:14] <zetheroo> its all automatic on my end
[12:15] <zetheroo> and I cannot get for the life of me why Ubuntu works so great and Kubuntu is stuggling so badly
[12:15] <Lynoure> zetheroo: So, you start knetwork-manager, and then what happens to you? and what would you want it to do?
[12:15] <zetheroo> sorry... for being a bit hectic... but its very frustrating....
[12:16] <zetheroo> its just that knetworkmanager is not doing anything
[12:16] <Lynoure> zetheroo: I can understand, this pdf problem is too.
[12:16] <zetheroo> it just says no devices
[12:16] <zetheroo> and I know that the device is working and raring to go
[12:16] <zetheroo> I even tried manually setting up the connection
[12:16] <zetheroo> but still no google.com
[12:17] <Lynoure> zetheroo: if the device is already configured in /etc/network/interfaces, networkmanager cannot reconfigure it
[12:17] <zetheroo> it was not working befroe I manually configured it either
[12:17] <zetheroo> I did not edit any files
[12:17] <zetheroo> I did it through the network properties in the control panel
[12:18] <Lynoure> zetheroo: wlan or wired? or both?
[12:18] <Lynoure> That's configuring, too.
[12:18] <zetheroo> wifi
[12:18] <zetheroo> wlan
[12:19] <zetheroo> is there a better network manager for Kubuntu?
[12:19] <zetheroo> one that really works?
[12:20] <Lynoure> zetheroo: this really works for me. There are others, feel free to experiment.
[12:21] <zetheroo> what should I be looking for>?
[12:22] <Lynoure> Regarding to knetwork-manager, or?
[12:22] <zetheroo> yeah
[12:22] <zetheroo> like do you know of any other ones?
[12:23] <Lynoure> kde-apps site is full of them, I stopped with the first one that worked for me (after some effort), which was knetwork-manager
[12:25] <Lynoure> zetheroo: I was prepared to walk you throught troubleshooting process, but you see too eager to try something else, instead, and well, cannot really recommend any.
[12:27] <___thomas-> hi
[12:28] <___thomas-> I wrote myself a script that prints what I'm now playing in amarok (bash + dcop), when I execute this on the host computer it works perfectly, like this
[12:28] <___thomas-> np: Flyswatter [2:56/3:22] - Daisies Of The Galaxy - 2000 by Eels | Alt. Rock | mp3 | 201 kbps
[12:28] <___thomas-> but when I execute this through ssh
[12:28] <___thomas-> I get this
[12:28] <___thomas-> ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server!
[12:28] <___thomas-> np:  [/] -  -  by  |  |  |  kbps
[12:29] <___thomas-> and I would like to get this working through ssh
[12:29] <___thomas-> any ideas?
[12:30] <Lynoure> ___thomas-: bit hard to say without seeing your script, but maybe it tries to contact your dcop from the other machine, and your dcop does not talk to the world?
[12:31] <___thomas-> nah, at #amarok they just told me dcop needs X
[12:32] <se7en_> does someone know where basket saves the notes you take
[12:32] <ForgeAus> hehe hey kewl Kubuntu has a PS3 version :)
[12:32] <ForgeAus> if only OSX did too
[12:33] <Jucato> se7en_: ~/.kde/share/apps/basket/
[12:33] <Jucato> in it's own xml format
[12:34] <progreSSive> does anybody know any sybase channels?
[12:34] <se7en_> thanks Jucato found it ... good to have a backup from basket
[12:34] <Jucato> se7en_: basket has a backup tool too :)
[12:34] <Jucato> easy to use Backup & Restore, as well as Export
[12:35] <se7en_> cool i didn't know that
[12:35] <Jucato> now you do :)
[12:35] <Jucato> have fun dunking :)
[12:35] <se7en_> :)
[12:35] <ForgeAus> btw hey Jucato :)
[12:35] <Jucato> hi ForgeAus!
[12:36] <kim> hey can anyone give me any hints on printing? im trying to set up a fixed IP printer, shared on a windows box. i don't think tis using samba, as everyone else in my office seems to have just typed in the IP somewhere, but i do need a username and password. can anyone shed any light? thanks!
[12:42] <BluesKaj> kim, have you tried running the printer wizard in system settings/printer , as smb shared printer ?
[12:42] <Wizard> there's no such thing as printer wizard!
[12:42] <Wizard> leave me alone!
[12:43] <BluesKaj> your nick is an unfortunate choice
[12:44] <DreadKnight> :)))
[12:50] <david__> hi! what's the channel of ubuntu in Spanish?
[12:50] <BluesKaj> !es
[12:50] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[12:50] <david__> thanks
[12:50] <BluesKaj> np
[12:51] <BluesKaj> err da nada
[12:51] <jpatrick> BluesKaj: s/da/de ;)
[12:52] <BluesKaj> jpatrick, ?
[12:53] <jpatrick> BluesKaj: it's "de nada"
[12:54] <BluesKaj> really ? ...saw da nada here a lot
[13:00] <BluesKaj> ok jpatrick , I stand corrected , de nada it is :) ...I studied french many yrs ago, but not spanish, din't know they shared the same "of" .
[13:00] <jpatrick> BluesKaj: don't worry, I've lived in Spain several years :)
[13:00] <niall> why doesn't kubuntu come with any games? :(
[13:01] <Lynoure> niall: you can very easily install some
[13:01] <kim> BluesKaj: yes, but i dont know what type of pritner backend it is :(
[13:01] <niall> Lynoure: yeah, it's just a shame that they're not their by default. There's not art programs either :<
[13:01] <niall> *there
[13:02] <niall> I think Kubuntu could to with a bit more polish
[13:02] <Lynoure> niall: One person's polish is another persons fluff
[13:03] <niall> there's nothing to edit images with at all, it's not really fluff
[13:03] <Lynoure> I was talking about the games, still
[13:03] <kim> gimp?
[13:03] <niall> gimp isn't on here by default
[13:03] <niall> not on my install at least
[13:04] <kim> well it takes 1 command to isntall ;)
[13:04] <niall> I know I know, but that's not the point
[13:04] <Lynoure> niall: you can report a wishlist bug with the list of art programs you'd want by default, others will follow with music programs, and bookkeeping programs etc.
[13:04] <BluesKaj> kim , if you enter the printer IP addy , the wizard should scan and pick up the printer info.
[13:04] <kim> BluesKaj: enter it where? i have a choice of about 6 abckends to pick from before i get that far
[13:05] <niall> I hate to say though, Kopete has really grown on me. After you customise the hell out of it, it becomes quite pleasent to use - I actually prefer it to pidgin now
[13:05] <niall> *have
[13:05] <Wizard> i won't scan anything :)
[13:05] <andrewsavchuk> tv-tuner aver 305, kubuntu 7.10 not works, some one help me :)
[13:06] <Lynoure> Wizard is a bot?
[13:06] <Wizard> no ;)
[13:10] <PolitikerNEU> I got a problem with libpoppler: I can't update it because adept says it would be corrupt
[13:10] <michael__> hey guys i just jacked up my kdm shyte i installed kde 4 kdm and upon setting it it asked me if i want to use it as my default loggin ...anyway i decided i wanted to change back to the kde 3 kdm so i uninstallled the kde 4 kdm and now i have to type commands to login...so how do i restore back my original kde 3 kdm
[13:11] <niall> andrewsavchuk: you need to goto that linuxtv website and read the ENITRE wiki basically, I had to sort someone's tuner out once it took me a weekend, it would have been quicker if I hadn't skipped large sections of the info ;x
[13:11] <niall> andrewsavchuk: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[13:13] <niall> andrewsavchuk: I did make the assumption though that you'd be using DVB, if you're not you should goto the main page and pick something else
[13:21] <sigma_1234> i hope kubuntu hardy has all the apps in the kde4 version that the kde3 version has
[13:22] <sigma_1234> on the other hand maybe including kde4 is a big mistake. rather exclude it so hardy can be lts
[13:23] <kirk_> hello
[13:23] <kirk_> anyone awake?
[13:24] <selckin> you i hope
[13:24] <kirk_> yea still am
[13:24] <kirk_> with a prob
[13:25] <kirk_> kaffeine is nuts and all the other video players suck
[13:25] <niall> VLC is pretty good
[13:25] <kirk_> it plays some avi's and wont others
[13:26] <kirk_> wont play any .iso dvds i have on here
[13:26] <kirk_> i like kaffeine, and it played everything but i upgraded
[13:26] <galathalion> u need a plugin for that in vlc i think
[13:26] <niall> try VLC kirk_
[13:26] <kirk_> i did, i didnt like it
[13:26] <kirk_> and it was jumpy
[13:26] <niall> hmm
[13:27] <kirk_> i just want kaffeine to play everything
[13:28] <parkin> vlc is very good, i havent noticed that it jumps
[13:28] <niall> I haven't even tried getting videos to work yet
[13:28] <niall> I've spent so much time faffing with everything else
[13:28] <JuJuBee> What is the preferred disk partioning software so I can add Kubuntu to my existing windows computer?
[13:29] <niall> I just used the one in the installer
[13:29] <kirk_> JujuBee: Try QTParted
[13:29] <JuJuBee> I do not want to destroy the existing windows installation.  I just need to shrink it to free up space for ubuntu
[13:30] <niall> I have a feeling that getting flash to work in konquerer is going to be a faff
[13:30] <JuJuBee> Will QTParted shrink partitions?
[13:30] <kirk_> is the partition already formatted
[13:30] <JuJuBee> Yes
[13:31] <JuJuBee> Vista already installed
[13:31] <kirk_> ehh i dont know
[13:31] <kirk_> using the entire disk?
[13:32] <JuJuBee> At the moment, yes
[13:32] <JuJuBee> I have used Partition Magic in the past...distant past...
[13:33] <kirk_> i think during the kubuntu installation u can setup how u wanna do the partitions
[13:33] <JuJuBee> Dont think it will shrink existing part's to free up space though.
[13:33] <kirk_> try QTparted
[13:34] <kirk_> or Gparted
[13:34] <kirk_> !qtparted
[13:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:34] <JuJuBee> Looked at QTParted, I need a boot disk to install it on
[13:34] <kirk_> sorry, i dunno
[13:35] <JuJuBee> Thanks anyway.  I will keep looking.
[13:35] <kirk_> is it possible to be able to read and write on a ext3 when running fat32
[13:36] <kirk_> or read only
[13:36] <ForgeAus> kirk???
[13:36] <Jeroi> yes kubuntus installation partition system does keepp data in ntfs disk
[13:36] <Jeroi> you just make new disk out of free space on ntfs system
[13:36] <kirk_> yea?
[13:37] <niall> I thought it did
[13:37] <Jeroi> then partition wil use that free space for new partition, and keeps the old partition with data and only reduces it's size
[13:37] <BluesKaj> Gparted Live CD is the best partioning editor ..DL it and burn it to a cd then , you can shrink your vista partition to whatever size you want and ,make an ext3 and swap for Kubuntu.
[13:37] <niall> when I installed it asked me if I wanted to shrink one of my partitions and install in the new free space
[13:37] <niall> but I had a empty disk already waiting, so I didn't bother
[13:37] <ForgeAus> kubuntu can mount both file systems
[13:37] <ForgeAus> and both read and write to them
[13:37] <niall> ya
[13:38] <niall> Amarok built my music collection from my ntfs partition
[13:38] <kirk_> ya i know
[13:38] <kirk_> but
[13:38] <kirk_> can fat32 mount ext3
[13:38] <Jeroi> you mean windows 98?
[13:39] <kirk_> can i get rid of pos kubuntu and still be able to mount my ext3 external
[13:39] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj : thanks.
[13:39] <Jeroi> atleast 2000 and xp can mount ext2 and 3 disk when getting that ext2 dll
[13:39] <JuJuBee> I was looking and came across ultimate boot cd (UBCD)  also.
[13:40] <kirk_> or if this "free" software wasnt so restricted from playing my media lol, i'd be happy to keep it
[13:40] <llutz> look at driver-documentation  from www.fs-driver.org
[13:40] <Jeroi> kirk, you can install all the codecs needed
[13:40] <Jeroi> just as in windows
[13:40] <kirk_> did that already
[13:40] <kirk_> and the flgrx something driver
[13:40] <Jeroi> the default windows dosent even support avi files
[13:41] <kirk_> and libdvdcss2
[13:41] <kirk_> kaffeine will play some avis and not others
[13:41] <Jeroi> mp3 support in kubuntu is not default isntalled, as it is restricted sound format
[13:41] <kirk_> some are scrambled
[13:41] <Jeroi> someone haves rights to get money out of it
[13:42] <kirk_> these are all bought and backed up
[13:42] <Jeroi> but amarok atleast installs mp3 support automatically when you first time load mp3 into it
[13:42] <kirk_> 60+ dvds, and this is the computer i can hooked up to my tv through s-video cable
[13:42] <kirk_> so its important all my movies work
[13:42] <Jeroi> My movies work
[13:42] <payan> my kubuntu doesn't aumonts devices anymore :( help
[13:42] <nosrednaekim> kirk_: install the divx and Xvid codecs
[13:42] <niall> It's annoying that the internet uses so many different proprietary formats
[13:43] <Jeroi> kirk, I recommend smplayer
[13:43] <niall> like streaming video spans across quicktime, windows media and divx
[13:43] <Jeroi> if you build smplayer from lates source, you can get it work just like Media Player Classic in windows
[13:43] <niall> if you're doing stuff online, you should _have_ to use some kind of open format
[13:43] <niall> just so people don't have to download like 50 million plugins as soon as the log on
[13:43] <ardchoille> !ot | niall
[13:43] <ubotu> niall: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[13:44] <niall> sorry ;x
[13:44] <BluesKaj> if you want to stream video to another device the VLC is the player to use
[13:44] <kirk_> i have all the codecs installed
[13:44] <intelikey> !usplash
[13:44] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[13:46] <kirk_> that was weird, when i tried to play a movie it immediately took me to the login screen
[13:46] <ForgeAus> kirk or possibly crashed your X desktop or something?
[13:46] <kirk_> possibly, this is fresh install tho
[13:47] <kirk_> linuxmint comes with all the codecs n shit already installed right?
[13:47] <ForgeAus> then you probably don't have the codecs and stuf you need, depending on the movie...
[13:47] <ForgeAus> mint? I have no idea
[13:47] <ForgeAus> this is kubuntu not linuxmint
[13:47] <intelikey> why is this thing now, sense the update making /boot/initrd.img-initrd.img  ???
[13:47] <kirk_> all i want is a system to play movies on
[13:47] <kirk_> shouldnt be this complicated
[13:48] <intelikey> anyone else have wierd names like that ?
[13:48] <bazhang> mint is really slow plus its gnome
[13:48] <kirk_> i like kde
[13:48] <niall> I like KDE too
[13:48] <kirk_> its just a MAJOR issue, this computer is used ONLY for playing movies on
[13:49] <niall> especially since I spent all night customising it
[13:49] <andrewsavchuk> VLC player plays all movies :)
[13:49] <appelza> I could play any movies after running the restricted codec app, except for realmedia which i had to do separately
[13:49] <BluesKaj> VLC also plays movie ISOs
[13:49] <appelza> quite easy
[13:49] <kirk_> vlc is jumpy and has a horrible gui
[13:49] <ForgeAus> pity you didn't use the standard ubuntu kirk you could convert it to kubuntu quite easily
[13:50] <Jeroi> how to make smplayer btw one of opening options when loading dvd's?
[13:50] <andrewsavchuk> sudo modprobe saa7134-alsa index=1,2,3,4
[13:50] <ForgeAus> uh kirk what player has a better GUI than vlc?
[13:50] <Jeroi> I has now only open, or do nothing
[13:50] <andrewsavchuk> sorry
[13:50] <kirk_> kaffeine
[13:50] <ForgeAus> ok ... fair enuff
[13:50] <kirk_> lol
[13:50] <niall> ;D
[13:50] <kirk_> thats really the only one i like
[13:51] <Jeroi> try kirk smplayer
[13:51] <BluesKaj> who cares about GUI eye candy for a few secs , it's the movie that counts :)
[13:51] <kirk_> i had feisty setup niceeeeeee but now with gutsy cant get kaffeine to play all my movies
[13:51] <ForgeAus> I agree blues
[13:51]  * kirk_ enjoys a nice gui
[13:51] <Jeroi> well kaffeine dont support middel button pause
[13:52] <kirk_> just hit the space bar
[13:52] <andrewsavchuk> :)
[13:52] <Jeroi> I mean mouse1
[13:52] <BluesKaj> good kirk_ , stare at the GUI if you must :)
[13:52] <Jeroi> mause1 pause
[13:52] <intelikey> typical.   i ran the two commands that !usplash posts, and it made the system unbootable with that initramfs image.
[13:52] <kirk_> ima check out smplayer jeroi. thanks
[13:52] <Jeroi> kirk it is front end for mplayer
[13:52] <kirk_> lol ok
[13:52] <Jeroi> and mplayer support everything and so doeas smplayer also
[13:53] <kirk_> its just what i'm used to. i think it bothers me more that it used to work and now i cant get it to
[13:53] <Jeroi> smplayer adds features that mplayer lacks also
[13:53] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: not good.... what went wrong?
[13:53] <niall> is there a window compositor I can turn on in Kubuntu?
[13:54] <ForgeAus> whats a window compositor?
[13:54] <ardchoille> !composite
[13:54] <ubotu> Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[13:54] <wesley> kirk you need to install vlc or the codecs i prefer to play my movies with vlc
[13:54] <intelikey> nosrednaekim idk.   just said no /lib/modules/<version> dirrectory and hung    durring boot
[13:54] <niall> I don't really want compiz-fusion :/
[13:54] <nosrednaekim> niall: kwin has its own basic effects
[13:55] <ardchoille> niall: kde has a compositor, but it isn't as nice as compiz-fusion
[13:55] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: is the root() device specified correctly in the menu.lst?
[13:55] <niall> compiz-fusion is still a bit dodgy that's all
[13:56] <andrewsavchuk> compiz 0.6 works good
[13:56] <kirk_> gonna try that now wesley
[13:56] <niall> I hear the new kwin in KDE4 does proper compiz style effects
[13:56] <intelikey> nosrednaekim really name on the initramfs image now too.   i have to move it or edit menu.lst      cause being i just commited the cardnal sin, i updated the system.    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d299f7132
[13:56]  * nosrednaekim gasps....
[13:56] <intelikey> nosrednaekim heh  yeah nothing changes my menu.lst
[13:57]  * kirk_ submits to VLC
[13:57] <_Angelus_> ardchoille: only kde4's kwin has compositing..
[13:57] <kirk_> could be this damnded ati video card
[13:57] <nosrednaekim> _Angelus_: nope kwin3 had it too
[13:58] <ardchoille> _Angelus_: No, kde 3.5 has an in-built compositor, it's called kcompmgr
[13:58] <_Angelus_> :O
[13:58] <niall> how do I turn on compositing in kwin then?
[13:58] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: shouldn't /boot have more stuff in it than that?
[13:58] <_Angelus_> whats the name of the package in kubuntu ?
[13:58] <ForgeAus> kde4 has some extended compositing extras that kde3 didn't
[13:58] <ForgeAus> but its not a full blown compiz
[13:59] <nosrednaekim> niall: I forget actually.... its called "transparency"
[13:59] <intelikey> nosrednaekim i don't boot from this drive
[13:59] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus: but it has the potential since it is plugin based
[13:59] <intelikey> tty24 [root@dell.~] mv /boot/initrd.img-initrd.img /mnt/hda2/start/initramfs.img
[13:59] <ardchoille> _Angelus_: it's /usr/bin/kompmgr
[13:59] <wesley> but its works better than compiz works together with kde3
[13:59] <niall> nosrednaekim: I've found a translucency tab in windows behaviour, is that it?
[13:59] <nosrednaekim> niall: yeah... I think so
[13:59] <intelikey> nosrednaekim can't install grub on a partitionless disk, so i have it on another drive
[13:59] <ForgeAus> of course wesley :) almost anything would work better than that :)
[13:59] <nosrednaekim> niall: or around in that section somewhere
[14:00] <ardchoille> niall: You will need to run kompmgr to take full advantage of the compsotie effects in kde 3.5, iirc
[14:00] <ForgeAus> lol intellikey
[14:00] <andrewsavchuk> kde4 it`s one big bug :)
[14:00] <ForgeAus> you and your partitionlessness
[14:00] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: hmm ok, so it put the initrd on the wrong drive?
[14:00] <ForgeAus> well its early days for kde4 yet
[14:00] <nosrednaekim> i'm just a BIT confused :)
[14:00] <ForgeAus> sofar I'm not entirely impressed
[14:00] <wesley> kde4 is working fine
[14:00] <nosrednaekim> kde4 works great for me at least
[14:00] <niall> nosrednaekim: yeah, that did it ;D
[14:00] <wesley> i am using it for daily use
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[14:01] <intelikey> nosrednaekim of course,  it put it on the root fs   /boot     just like any good little default system....
[14:01] <kirk_> vlc is so jumpy
[14:01] <_Angelus_> i started kcompmgr . but no options came up :/
[14:01] <ForgeAus> wesley it works but its not as nice as it could be
[14:01] <niall> _Angelus_: that just turns them on after you've set them in the menu
[14:01] <wesley> its nicere than kde3
[14:01] <_Angelus_> niall: but no menu came up
[14:01] <ForgeAus> sofar I still like kde3
[14:02] <niall> _Angelus_: it doesn't bring up a menu ;p
[14:02] <andrewsavchuk> me to :)
[14:02] <_Angelus_> niall: so how can i set them up from the menu if it doesnt have a menu? lol
[14:02] <niall> go into system settings, then to window behaviour. Goto the translucency tab and turn it all on and apply
[14:02] <ardchoille> _Angelus_: systemsettings > Behavior > Translucency tab
[14:02] <ForgeAus> but then I'm not a fan of some things like dolphin, however I do like the simplified and search box on the start menu
[14:02] <_Angelus_> oh, thanks ardchoille
[14:02] <niall> then you run the command to activate or whatever
[14:02] <kirk_> xine: couldn't find demux for >/media/500/movies/inside_man.iso<
[14:03] <ForgeAus> I also don't like the default colourscheme but thats not much
[14:03] <kirk_> what is demux???????
[14:03] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus: yech.. I hate kickoff, I put a simple menu here right off :)
[14:03] <wesley> i use kde4 with kde3 apps
[14:03] <ForgeAus> kirk presumably the opposite of muxing
[14:03] <niall> I used KDE4 once and it was REALLY slow :(
[14:03] <kirk_> lol...
[14:03] <ardchoille> kde4 chat/support should go to #kubuntu-kde4
[14:04] <kirk_> alright. is there a way i can get kaffeine to find "demux"
[14:04] <nosrednaekim> wow... didn't even know that existed :)
[14:04] <nosrednaekim> thought we kinda voted that out last meeting
[14:04]  * nosrednaekim adds another channel to his autojoin
[14:04] <ForgeAus> isn't the transparencey tab a little touchy?
[14:04] <niall> yes
[14:04] <niall> :<
[14:05] <nosrednaekim> kirk_: do you have libdvdread installed?
[14:06] <kirk_> lemme check
[14:06] <kirk_> yes
[14:06] <ardchoille> kirk_: Here's what I installed and dvd movies play fine: xine-ui libxine1-ffmpeg libdvdread3 libdvdnav4 libdvdcss2
[14:08] <intelikey> ok that command is making an unusable initrd.img-initrd.img      error message was   FATEL can not open /lib/modules/2.6.15-51-386/modules.deps.temp for writing. no such file or dirrectory
[14:08] <niall> brb
[14:08] <janx> alguien habla español
[14:09] <nosrednaekim> !es
[14:09] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:09] <janx> bueno, muchas gracias..
[14:09] <jpatrick> janx: de nada
[14:11] <kirk_> Hmmmmmmm.........
[14:11] <parkin> !deluge
[14:11] <ubotu> deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.
[14:11] <kirk_> why is this.... Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[14:12] <wad> Hi! I've mostly finished configuring my new KUBUNTU laptop. One question about wireless networking:
[14:12] <ardchoille> kirk_: You have the medibuntu repo enabled?
[14:12] <kirk_> no
[14:12] <ardchoille> !medibuntu | kirk_
[14:12] <ubotu> kirk_: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[14:12] <wad> I found the settings for eth1 (wireless NIC), but it only asks for a WEP key. I have a WPA wireless network at home. Am I out of luck?
[14:12] <kirk_> i'll need to add that to my sources list right
[14:12] <parkin> anyone know how to set an upload cap on specific torrents in deluge torrent?
[14:13] <ardchoille> kirk_: Yes, that iw where you get libdvdcss2
[14:13] <kirk_> thats whyyyyyyyyy
[14:13] <kirk_> brb
[14:13] <ardchoille> kirk_: And you will need to add the medibuntu repo key, it's all at the medibuntu page
[14:16] <TiagoKalisto> Bom dia a todos.
[14:16] <ubunturos> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - the KDE4 LIVE CD on that page is based on Kubuntu 7.10 ?
[14:16] <intelikey> ok heres my report on the issue.    i ran apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade    then the two commands that ubotu posts for !usplash   and the initrd.img-initrd.img file it produced is worthless.  so i ran mkinitramfs -o <filename> <version>   and it works fine.   conclusion, the   update-initramfs -u   command is hosed on dapper.
[14:16] <TiagoKalisto> Existe algum brasileiro aqui???
[14:16] <renliege> I installed wlassistant in Ubuntu and removed the gnome network manager.... but all I get now is Connection Failed
[14:17] <jpatrick> !pt > TiagoKalisto
[14:17] <jhutchins> !pt
[14:17] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:18] <jhutchins> intelikey: Dapper?  Dude!  It's 2008.
[14:18] <jpatrick> !lastest > jhutchins
[14:19] <niall> can someone tell me why it says 'BROKEN TRANSLATION 1' at the bottom of all my dolphin windows?
[14:19] <kirk_> installed libdvdcss2, dvd's still not playing
[14:20] <ardchoille> kirk_: Which player are you using?
[14:20] <kirk_> kaffeine
[14:20] <ardchoille> Ah ok
[14:20] <kirk_> i just want it to play everything.... thats all
[14:21] <kirk_> it'd make my life much easier
[14:21] <SSJ_GZ> niall: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=653962
[14:21] <ardchoille> kirk_: Wel, I know nothing about that player
[14:21] <Stilo> !de
[14:21] <kirk_> vlc is jumpy
[14:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[14:21] <BluesKaj> VLC is the only player equipped to play almost all codecs
[14:22] <niall> oh, it's because I'm British ;''
[14:24] <parkin> !mplayer
[14:24] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[14:24] <kirk_> !codecs
[14:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:24] <parkin> vlc and mplayer and kaffeine are the ones ive used the most and that i like
[14:25] <kirk_> kaffeine is my favorite
[14:25] <kirk_> i cant get it to work tho
[14:25] <BluesKaj> yeah, mplayer is buggy on mysetup ...dumped it
[14:25] <kirk_> i've tried everything i've found to try
[14:25] <kirk_> vlc is jumpy on mine
[14:25] <BluesKaj> still have mencoder for tovid use tho
[14:25] <ForgeAus> vlc is jumpy?
[14:25] <kirk_> jumpy
[14:25] <ForgeAus> I've never had that problem
[14:25] <kirk_> like it has tourettes
[14:26] <BluesKaj> kirk_, which graphics card ?
[14:27] <serg_> Hi! Does the nv driver supports direct rendering or should i download nVidia drivers?
[14:27] <kirk_> ati
[14:28] <nosrednaekim> serg_: you need the nvidia driver
[14:28] <serg_> nosrednaekim thank you
[14:28] <BluesKaj> kirk_, are you using the default restricted driver for your card ?
[14:28] <kirk_> yes
[14:28] <ardchoille> kirk_: I had jumpy video on my dvd drive until I enabled dma
[14:29] <ardchoille> !dma | kirk_
[14:29] <kirk_> its enabled the restricted driver
[14:29] <ubotu> kirk_: dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[14:29] <BluesKaj> kirk_, 64 bit gutsy ?
[14:29] <niall> SSJ_GZ: sweet, that totally fixed it, thanks :}
[14:29] <SSJ_GZ> niall: Cool :)
[14:33] <TiagoKalisto> Hello
[14:33] <TiagoKalisto> I need help...
[14:33] <TiagoKalisto> my kubuntu is bugged
[14:33] <jpatrick> TiagoKalisto: /join #ubuntu-br
[14:33] <TiagoKalisto> i need restore the system....
[14:33] <ForgeAus> bugged?
[14:33] <TiagoKalisto> Help-me please
[14:33] <niall> what's wrong with it?
[14:34] <emilsedgh> TiagoKalisto: just tell us about the problem !
[14:36] <TiagoKalisto> My kubuntu or log the system, the keyboard no work...
[14:36] <TiagoKalisto> i need repair the system...
[14:36] <JuJuBee> kirk_ : fwiw, GParted Live CD worked like a charm...
[14:38] <kirk_> great
[14:38] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee, GParted Live CD is the best partition editor out in my experience ... partition magic should be banned.
[14:39] <JuJuBee> I agree now that I have used it.  Easy as Pie
[14:42] <Oleander> Question: i wanna install kubuntu. I have 3 ide drives. two currently used on empty and ready for kubuntu. should i install kubuntu on its own drive or parition it on windows one?
[14:44] <TiagoKalisto> I am having problems, the Kubuntu aprensentou problems with the keyboard and then I am trying to repair system, someone help me?
[14:44] <TiagoKalisto> I need repair the system.
[14:45] <niall> anyone know where I can find up to date Kopete source? The source on the website is of a lot lower version than the app Kubuntu comes with
[14:46] <kirk_> any more ideas why kaffeine doesnt play my dvd iso movies
[14:46] <eml> Hmm, has anyone had any problems with limewire on Kubuntu? It tells me that it finds a firewall, but I can use it fine in Windows and I've been using it in debian too.
[14:46] <kirk_> !frostwire
[14:46] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[14:46] <ForgeAus> Oleander I'd recommend using its own drive
[14:46] <eml> Alright kirk_, thanks
[14:49] <mikemcc> Kubuntu Dapper, upgrade to kernel 2.6.15-51-686 -> pw input returns to pw prompt
[14:49] <mikemcc> reverting to 2.6.15-29-686 still does this
[14:50] <Oleander> ForgeAus: thanks
[14:50] <mikemcc> console login showed login attempts successful
[14:50] <Oleander> ForgeAus: windows is one ide master and the kubuntu one will be one another ide drive slave, will windows give me boot menu automatically?
[14:51] <mikemcc> I'm using Ubuntu upgraded to 2.6.15-27-686
[14:52] <mikemcc> to communicate
[14:53] <ForgeAus> windoes no ubuntu will
[14:53] <ForgeAus> its called grub
[14:53] <kirk_> !demux
[14:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about demux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:53] <ForgeAus> and it will pass through to your windows bootmanager when you select windows...
[14:53] <ForgeAus> assuming you have a working XP install before you install kubuntu
[14:54] <Oleander> ForgeAus: grub?
[14:54] <ForgeAus> and that you don't do something silly like overwrite the windows partition with your install
[14:54] <ForgeAus> yes grub is Kubuntu's boot loader
[14:54] <ForgeAus> it should (I'd hope) detect your windows install and give you an option to run it
[14:54] <Oleander> ForgeAus: ill diconnect all other hdds when i install. and put the kubuntu as master for install then when its installed out win back on master and kubuntu on slave. sound right?
[14:55] <ForgeAus> (it basically chains bootloaders which means it passes through to NTLDR)
[14:55] <ForgeAus> no don't do that
[14:55] <Oleander> oh
[14:55] <ForgeAus> if you want it to pass through
[14:55] <Oleander> what would u reocmmend?
[14:55] <Oleander> for install
[14:55] <ForgeAus> it won't detect your windows install if you don't have the HDD connected :)
[14:55] <ForgeAus> Oleander is your kubuntu CD a liveCD?
[14:56] <ForgeAus> try booting up off of it...
[14:56] <Oleander> ForgeAus the live one i think
[14:56] <ForgeAus> if so you can run the graphical installer you shouldn't have too much trouble there
[14:56] <ForgeAus> the qtparted is built into that and it should help you pick your disk, etc...
[14:56] <Oleander> so leave my windows hdd in on master boot from live cd and install kubuntu on selected hdd?
[14:56] <ForgeAus> (just not the NTFS formatted partition is your Windows one, leave that alone and you should be fine)
[14:56] <ForgeAus> exactly Oleander :)
[14:57] <Oleander> okies
[14:57] <ForgeAus> btw did you know the tree your nickname is based on is poisonous?
[14:57] <Oleander> haha yep :)
[14:57] <ForgeAus> we used to have a one on our nature strip :)
[14:57] <Oleander> ur aussie yeh?
[14:57] <Oleander> me too
[14:58] <ForgeAus> yes I am
[14:58] <Oleander> as soon as u said nature strip knew ur were aussie, then went oh yeh forgeAus der
[14:58] <BluesKaj> bloody hell, surrounded by aussies again :)
[14:58] <Oleander> haha
[14:58] <ForgeAus> lol Blues
[14:58] <ardchoille> !ot
[14:58] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[14:58] <Oleander> yank?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> canuck
[14:59] <BluesKaj> canuck=canada ...some don't know that
[14:59] <Oleander> ah. ok thanks for the help forgeAus, i will be able to parition up my kubuntu drive in installer yeh?
[15:00] <Oleander> yeh wikipedia'd it :)
[15:03] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, you killed the room ! :)
[15:03] <ForgeAus> yes
[15:03] <Jucato> good
[15:03] <ForgeAus> Oleander Linux refers to drives differently don't expect to see a C:, D:, etc
[15:04] <Oleander> ForgeAus: ah ok
[15:04] <ForgeAus> its hda (for ide) or sda (for SCSI/SATA)
[15:04] <Oleander> ok thanks
[15:04] <ForgeAus> sdb and partition numbers
[15:04] <ForgeAus> sdb1, sdb2, hda1, hda4, etc...
[15:05] <ForgeAus> I also recommend you don't use the entire drive for your kubuntu EXT3 partition...
[15:05] <Oleander> ForgeAus: i dunno too much about kubuuntu, but can i access all my videos, music etc on my other "win" drives?
[15:05] <ForgeAus> leave some space on the end to put a swap partitioni n
[15:05] <ForgeAus> yes Oleander
[15:05] <Oleander> ok
[15:05] <ForgeAus> you just have to mount those drives
[15:05] <kirk_> if running fat32 can i read ext3
[15:05] <U238Willy> tis the beauty of linux
[15:06] <Oleander> mount like deamon tools?
[15:06] <U238Willy> i can read all the win drives
[15:06] <ForgeAus> (an easy way is to add them to your fstab once you're running linux)
[15:06] <ForgeAus> I can read my linux drive from windows 2 U238 :)
[15:06] <U238Willy> and with samba i can move files from the linux box to the windows 'shared folders' too.
[15:06] <ForgeAus> and write to it, if I so choose
[15:06] <Oleander> cool, so works both ways?
[15:07] <ForgeAus> Oleander if you want to read your kubuntu drive from windows use EXT2IFS
[15:07] <ForgeAus> its a driver for windows file system...
[15:07] <ForgeAus> but don't expect it to be reliable
[15:07] <ForgeAus> its one of them
[15:07] <ForgeAus> !worksforme
[15:07] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[15:07] <ForgeAus> kinda things
[15:07] <Oleander> ok.
[15:08] <ForgeAus> sofar I personally havn't had any problems but that doesn't mean that you won't
[15:08] <Oleander> do u primarily use kubuntu, and only switch to win when u have to? id like to become less dependent upon win
[15:08] <ForgeAus> I primarily use windows actually
[15:08] <Oleander> oh ok
[15:08] <ForgeAus> I do like having the choice tho :)
[15:08] <U238Willy> i use both..
[15:08] <Oleander> yeh
[15:08] <Oleander> is networking difficult ?
[15:09] <U238Willy> but if i had my druthers.. i'd go all linux
[15:09] <U238Willy> however.. in real estate.. the board that offers the database has made the interface require IE .. (sadface)
[15:10] <ForgeAus> hehe Jucato currently my Kubuntu is nonfunctional other than login... I think I need to fix up my xorg.config
[15:10] <ForgeAus> grr .conf
[15:10] <Jucato> again? :/
[15:10] <Oleander> is it better to run a win appl through WINE or just install linux version of it? i just dont wanna duplicate all my apps
[15:10]  * genii hands Jucato a large coffee
[15:10] <ForgeAus> well this time I managed to mess up my /etc folder
[15:10] <ForgeAus> it said it was a file
[15:10] <Jucato> genii: thanks! :)
[15:10] <ForgeAus> so someone told me to fsck it again
[15:10] <ForgeAus> (like I did in the first place
[15:10] <ForgeAus> but this time it found problems with it
[15:11] <genii> Oleander: Try to use native linux apps and wine only when you can't find an app that does what you want in linux
[15:11] <ForgeAus> and put all these # (by that I mean numerically named) files in lost+found
[15:11] <ForgeAus> I have no idea what is what... probably my whole /etc dir is in there
[15:11] <Oleander> genii: ok cool
[15:11] <genii> Jucato: (looks like you'll need it!)
[15:11] <ForgeAus> so I just copied one from the live CD
[15:11] <ForgeAus> and it boots to a prompt
[15:12] <ForgeAus> I just havn't fixed the x-server yet
[15:12] <Jucato> wonderful thing, dpkg-reconfigure, :)
[15:12] <ForgeAus> I didn't think of that
[15:12] <Oleander> allright, am going to go install. now forgeAus ur parting words would be dont touch win drive on install correct?
[15:12] <ForgeAus> but I still need to fix it because ati drivers
[15:12] <ForgeAus> I think I"ll copy the one from
[15:13] <ForgeAus> !ati
[15:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:13] <ForgeAus> there
[15:13] <ForgeAus> I did take out the stylus, cursor, etc devices
[15:13] <Jucato> ForgeAus: it will automatically generate the config file based on installed drivers. so you can work from scwatch
[15:13] <ForgeAus> (those errors get annyoing on the LiveCD)
[15:13] <ForgeAus> really?
[15:14] <ForgeAus> dpkg-reconfigure is the commandline ? don't I need xorg-xserver as the packagename or anything?
[15:14] <Jucato> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:14] <ForgeAus> ahh yes
[15:14] <ForgeAus> thats better
[15:14] <ForgeAus> when I next boot into kubuntu I'll try that
[15:15] <Jucato> :D
[15:19] <mikemcc> I'm going to take Jucato's "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" as the tentative answer to my thread, thanks.
[15:19] <Jucato> O.o
[15:19]  * Jucato hides...
[15:19] <trond> my titlebars keep disapearing when i enable compiz...any suggestions on what i can do?
[15:19] <markit> hi, I've changed video board, how can I make kubuntu recongnize and configure it? (from command line, of course)
[15:20] <TimS> !flock
[15:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:20] <TimS> trond: I ad that problem,
[15:20] <TimS> !compizfusion
[15:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compizfusion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:20] <TimS> !compiz
[15:20] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:21] <U238Willy> has anyone run into problems with konqueror and 'nspluginviewer' crashing and throwing up a (SIGSEGV) popup?
[15:21] <TimS> trond: sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[15:21] <TimS> That was the fix for me
[15:21] <trond> thanks, i'll try
[15:22] <trond> do i need to reboot to see if it works?
[15:24] <Jucato> just need to restart X
[15:26] <LamerMan> how to roll back system after unsucessfull driver install? nVidia graphics card driver
[15:27] <Jucato> !xconfig
[15:27] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[15:27] <Jucato> LamerMan: use that last command, then choose the "nv" driver ^^^^
[15:27] <Jucato> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[15:28] <LamerMan> thank you
[15:34] <mikemcc> After an upgrade the pw input returns to the pw prompt.
[15:35] <mikemcc> recovery mode dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg seemed to be overkill, help.
[15:35] <Downix> hey-lo
[15:37] <trond> TimS: none of the options worked...
[15:37] <TimS> Hmm
[15:37] <TimS> Not sure then =[
[15:37] <trond> ok
[15:38]  * Downix is learning the black art of DNS server setup
[15:38] <trond> it's a shame...i can't enjoy my new desktop as much as i would with those titlebars...:P
[15:40] <LamerMan> how to stop the x server?
[15:40] <ForgeAus> Lamer from within it?
[15:40] <ForgeAus> or externally?
[15:40] <LamerMan> both bplease
[15:41] <ForgeAus> well one solution is to reboot into recovery mode
[15:41] <ForgeAus> another is to logout to KDM (your login screen) and exit that
[15:41] <jussi01> OK, Ive asked this before, but Ill ask again. Does anyone know a qt browser that isnt konqueror?
[15:41] <Jucato> jussi01: other than Opera?
[15:41] <jpatrick> jussi01: there was a Qt one on qt-apps.org
[15:41] <Jucato> ooooh interesting
[15:41] <ForgeAus> another is to switch to a textmode window and kill the X-server task? not sure thats such a good idea tho
[15:41]  * Jucato checks
[15:42] <trond> does anybody know how to get Microsoft Windows on one side of the desktop cube?
[15:42] <jussi01> Jucato: sorry, forgot to add "free" in there
[15:42] <ForgeAus> trond?
[15:42] <ForgeAus> you mean using wine?
[15:43] <LamerMan> ForgeAus tryed to kill :) can't find. can't find also the exit from logun manager. will try recovery mode
[15:43] <trond> ForgeAus: i don't think so...i saw a video of a guy using ubuntu, windows and mac on the cube
[15:43] <ForgeAus> hmmm Jucato isn't there a way to close KDM down to prompt instead of logging in to desktop??
[15:44] <jussi01> jpatrick: any memories of the name?
[15:44] <ForgeAus> Trond, could just be wallpaper screenshots, or something
[15:44] <ForgeAus> I wouldn't trust the video
[15:44] <Jucato> Logout from KDE, Ctrl+Alt+F1, "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[15:44] <trond> so it's not possible?
[15:44] <jpatrick> jussi01: I thought it was QtCommander, doesn't seem to be a browser tho :(
[15:45] <ForgeAus> hmmm DM's need an "quit to prompt" function
[15:45] <Jucato> trond: not possible unless you use something like virtualization or emulation
[15:45] <Jucato> ForgeAus: actually there is one
[15:45] <trond> okey, thanks
[15:45] <Jucato> I just didn't say so
[15:45] <ForgeAus> erm Jucato thats what I was asking
 hmmm Jucato isn't there a way to close KDM down to prompt instead of logging in to desktop??
[15:46] <jussi01> hmmm, if I knew a bit more programming Id go make one...
[15:46] <Jucato> ForgeAus: Console Login from the login menu. the problem with that is that I don't know how rerun the login screen again
[15:46] <ForgeAus> I do
[15:46] <ForgeAus> kdm :)
[15:46] <Jucato> jussi01: you can always start now :)
[15:46] <ForgeAus> well sudo kdm
[15:46] <Jucato> ForgeAus: last time I tried, it sort of didn't want to. but be my guest
[15:47] <jpatrick> jussi01: many examples (kde-ruby for instance) do how a browser for an example
[15:47] <SlimeyPe1e> jucato: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[15:47] <ForgeAus> well thats how I start my login screen from a prompt
[15:47] <ForgeAus> it seems to work
[15:47] <jussi01> Jucato: do you not think its a little bit large project for an extremely beggginer?
[15:47] <Jucato> jussi01: depends. you usually start small, then work from there :)
[15:47] <ForgeAus> wb oleander :)
[15:48] <Jucato> what you need to do first is get a working html engine, the basic UI, etc
[15:48] <Oleander> ForgeAus: hhi, am in middle of install and need ya help :)
[15:48] <ForgeAus> Oleander, what kinda help?
[15:48] <Jucato> SlimeyPe1e: like I said, before, I couldn't get back to KDM with that
[15:48] <ForgeAus> (do you like Konversation? :) )
[15:48] <jussi01> hmmm, I wonder if it would be good to be written in python...
[15:48] <ForgeAus> Python rox :)
[15:48] <Jucato> jussi01: could be :)
[15:48] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> the kde4 livecd installs authetic kde4 kubuntu?
[15:49] <ForgeAus> the only thing I don't like about python is the usage of _'s makes it look sloppy to me
[15:49] <Jucato> is there a fake kde4 kubuntu?
[15:49] <Oleander> ForgeAus: am creating partition. i have a 122gb hdd and wanna have 30gb to kubuntu and remaining to win. am about to create a partion of 30gb for k not sure what box's to check. firstly primary or logical?
[15:49] <ForgeAus> Mitsuo it can if its a kde4 kubuntu
[15:49] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> Jucato, there was the previous kde4
[15:49] <ForgeAus> which fiesty isn't but gusty? not sure, the h one would be tho
[15:49] <Jucato> ah
[15:50] <Jucato> the latest (and I do mean latest, as in this week or before Jan 11) has "authentic" kde4 :)
[15:50] <Jucato> actually, it's more properly called "KDE 4.0.0"
[15:50] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> also, can i burn the livcecd on a dvd media? :P
[15:50] <ForgeAus> yes Mitsuo
[15:50] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> i'm out of cds..
[15:50] <ForgeAus> you can even get a DVD enhanced version
[15:50] <ForgeAus> (ie a live CD with more than just the CD packages
[15:51] <Jucato> jussi01: better hurry up... I might beat you to it :)
[15:51] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> would take shitload of time to download on my 1.5 mbps connection
[15:51] <Jucato> jussi01: but if you're going to use python, I bet you'll finish first :P
[15:51] <ForgeAus> yeah well I'm only using a 256k connection spare a thought for me :)
[15:51] <Oleander> ForgeAus: should i choose primary or logical in create partition
[15:52] <jussi01> Jucato: hehe, are you working on something?
[15:52] <ForgeAus> Oleander, um primary, but that doesn't sound like a good choice
[15:52] <ForgeAus> what is qtparted saying you have?
[15:52] <Jucato> jussi01: nope. I did plan a few months back to try to make a simple kthml-using browser as a pet project :)
[15:52] <Jucato> jussi01: kinda lost interst :P
[15:52] <ForgeAus> do NOT, I repeat do NOT select the NTFS partition you already have
[15:52] <Oleander> ForgeAus: i havent i chose the right hdd
[15:52] <Downix> hmm
[15:52] <jussi01> Jucato: wellwhen I need collaborators... ;)
[15:53] <Downix> anyone here familiar with dns server setups?
[15:53] <ForgeAus> ok then primary is correct
[15:53] <Oleander> so pick primary?
[15:53] <ForgeAus> (I find it odd that its aksing you about logical tho)
[15:53] <Oleander> Location for new the new partition: beginning or end?
[15:53] <ForgeAus> I guess LVMs or something are logical maybe thts why???
[15:53] <ForgeAus> Oleander either way...
[15:54] <Oleander> Use as: ext3   ?
[15:54] <ForgeAus> I'd suggest go with the default if there is one otherwise beginning
[15:54] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> cd vs dvd versions, any diffrence?
[15:54] <ForgeAus> yes ext3 is what I recommend
[15:54] <ForgeAus> for your kubuntu partition
[15:54] <dhq> my touchpad doesnt work properly any ideas
[15:54] <ForgeAus> remember don't fill the ENTIRE part with it tho
[15:54] <Oleander> mount point?
[15:54] <ForgeAus> leave a little space on the end
[15:54] <SlimeyPe1e> MitsuoDeshoDesho: DVD includes more optional software on the disc, but you can get it all off the 'net anyway
[15:54] <ForgeAus> mount point should be /
[15:54] <ForgeAus> or /dev/hdb or whatever the drivename is
[15:55] <ForgeAus> or (root)? or something like that...
[15:55] <Oleander> theres a drop down list but with nothing to select so what should i type for mount point sorry?
[15:55] <niall> how long do you think kopete will take to compile?
[15:55] <ForgeAus> with the extra space on the end create a second partition for your swap drive
[15:55] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> SlimeyPe1e, thought so, i dont mind getting it off the net, i always like my libs and apps updated :)
[15:55] <Oleander> yeh i will
[15:56] <ForgeAus> ok... theres NOTHING in the dropdown list for mount point? is there a default value for it? because thats probably the one
[15:56] <Oleander> nothing at all no defualt value i can see
[15:56] <Oleander> just blank
[15:56] <ForgeAus> ouch, um I don't know
[15:56] <ForgeAus> Jucato probably knows that stuff better than I
[15:57] <ForgeAus> I'm not sure blank is right but if it lets you, I guess you can try it
[15:57] <ForgeAus> I'm pretty sure when I did that it was fairly automated (ie probably had a default setting that I went with)
[15:57] <ForgeAus> if it doesn't let you you can try recreating the partition
[15:58] <Oleander> goolging it
[15:58] <ForgeAus> ok
[15:58] <ForgeAus> !partition
[15:58] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[15:58] <ForgeAus> eugh... um
[15:58] <ForgeAus> !install
[15:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[15:59] <Oleander> ForgeAus: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/85713
[15:59] <ForgeAus> thats better, the first one Oleander, looks good
[15:59] <ForgeAus> lol well I wouldn't call it a bug
[16:00] <Oleander> ForgeAus: / - the root file system    ?
[16:00] <ForgeAus> yes
[16:00] <ForgeAus> in linux / = root
[16:00] <Oleander> ok cool
[16:01] <Oleander> allright now am doing win parition. again choosing logical and making sure to leave how much free space to create swap?
[16:01] <ForgeAus> (also in windows :) ie root directory of c: is C:\ (where the \ = root) and \ is the windows equiv of / as far as directories go)
[16:01] <Oleander> choosing primary i meant
[16:02] <ForgeAus> although windows recognises network paths with /'s nowerdays...
[16:02] <ForgeAus> they're basically interchangeable for the most part...
[16:03] <Oleander> ForgeAus: location for new partion for windows one, should i choose beginning or end?
[16:03] <asdasdsa> how can i make ubuntu absolutely no way to break into buy someone other than me who wants to use the computer? like damge and lock permanently the bios etc that the even the FBI would n't be able to break in?
[16:04] <stdin> asdasdsa: 1) that's probably out of the scope of this channel, 2) unless you seal the computer inside a ton of cement, it's not really possible
[16:05] <asdasdsa> stdin why not?
[16:05] <ForgeAus> asdasdsa stdin is right its highly unlikely there is a way... data is data, software alone isn't enough to secure anything
[16:05] <kletus> hola
[16:05] <ForgeAus> the FBI can most likely rip out your hard drive and analyze it
[16:05] <ForgeAus> sooner or later they'll find a way in
[16:06] <blizzzek> how can i see which process is currently accessing file xyz?
[16:06] <asdasdsa> ForgeAus if i lock it hard enough they wont
[16:06] <stdin> asdasdsa: because one could just rip open the computer and take out the disk, then decrypt any date one wanted (if one had a powerful enough decrypter)
[16:06] <Oleander> ForgeAus: does it matter what location i put remaining win partition on, beginning or end?
[16:06] <stdin> *data
[16:07] <stdin> blizzzek: "lsof /path/to/file" or "lsof |grep /path/to/file"
[16:07] <ForgeAus> stdin, does that mean for the next time I want to decrypt an arcade rom using fancy multi-level encryption I should take it to the FBI? ...
[16:07] <stdin> blizzzek: it may need sudo if you want to search processes not owned by you
[16:07] <genii> asdasdsa: Install onto a usb stick and when they come for you smash it up
[16:07] <ForgeAus> as it turned out the original encryption Capcom, for example, used was XOR...
[16:08] <stdin> ForgeAus: I'm sure the'd be able to help ;)
[16:08] <blizzzek> stdin:
[16:08] <asdasdsa> stdin it's like ripping brain part apart
[16:08] <blizzzek> thx
[16:08] <ForgeAus> but CPS2 was harder...
[16:08] <ForgeAus> well they had the best rom hackers around working on it stdin, still tool lotsa time
[16:08] <ForgeAus> grr took
[16:09] <ForgeAus> I wouldn't be suprised if those guys who are rom hackers would be able to get into stuff even the FBI couldn't
[16:09] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/kde4/kubuntu-kde4.0-i386.iso <- contains installer?
[16:09] <Oleander> ForgeAus: for win partition use as fat32?
[16:09] <ForgeAus> better yet asdasdsa use an Acorn ARM PC...
[16:09] <ForgeAus> the FBI probably only use win and mac pc's these days :)
[16:09] <stdin> MitsuoDeshoDesho: yes, but 4.0.0 isn't meant to be the only DE on the system. it doesn't have enough features to call it a full desktop
[16:10] <ForgeAus> win partition I recommend either fat32 or NTFS
[16:10] <ForgeAus> NTFS is slightly less linux-friendly than fat32 but either way works
[16:10] <blizzzek> ok.. next problem.. i want to edit a calender entry in kontact, but i get an error saying another application is using that file. but output of lsof shows that only kontact is using it. maybe there is a lockfile somewhere? or how can i fix this?
[16:10] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> stdin >> what do you mean?
[16:10] <asdasdsa> ther gotta be a way
[16:11] <asdasdsa> how about without ripping a hardware apart can i lock it tightly?
[16:11] <ForgeAus> Oleander note: I do suggest mostly READING from the non-native partitions, rather than doing lots of writing to them...
[16:11] <wad> Hi, folks. I've got my new laptop, and I've installed kubuntu on it. Plugged it into my network, and I don't get an IP address. "sudo ifdown eth0" shows "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured" for some reason. I've gone into the "Network Connections" GUI, and nothing seems to make any difference. I did "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" to no avail.
[16:11] <Oleander> thanks ForgeAus
[16:11] <ForgeAus> so where possible read-only is recommended, but read-write is possible both ways
[16:11] <wad> Any hints as to how I'm supposed to configure my eth0?
[16:11] <Oleander> whats ext2 for?
[16:12] <ForgeAus> EXT2 = EXT3 for your purposes mostly
[16:12] <ForgeAus> they're basically the same filesystem and EXT3 is backwards-compatible
[16:12] <stdin> MitsuoDeshoDesho: well, it doesn't have knetworkmanager, so don't expect wireless to work. it has no office suit. it has very little media support
[16:12] <ForgeAus> (EXT3 just has some extras)
[16:13] <Oleander> theres no nfts option so i just choose fat32 i assume?
[16:13] <ForgeAus> what doy ou mean no NTFS option?
[16:13] <ForgeAus> !NTFS
[16:13] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[16:13] <Oleander> in "use as" theres no select for nfts
[16:13] <Sbucatone> i want upload my files here....www.mediafire.com but with konqueror i can't with firefox yes...
[16:13] <ForgeAus> what do you mean "use as" ?
[16:14] <ForgeAus> where are you?
[16:14] <Oleander> in "create parition" thete is a use as drop down list. where u can pick ext 3, ext2, fat16, fat32 etc
[16:14] <ForgeAus> Oleander you don't already have windows installed?
[16:14] <Oleander> yeh on another hdd
[16:15] <ForgeAus> QTparted doesn't let you create NTFS parts probably
[16:15] <ForgeAus> is that partition visible?...
[16:15] <ForgeAus> you don't need to create a windows Partition
[16:15] <Oleander> i'm partioning drive. 30gb for kubuntu and remaining to staff my video and that on which i can access while in windows
[16:15] <ForgeAus> you should already have one
[16:15] <ForgeAus> oh you mean for a shared partition?
[16:15] <Oleander> yes sorry
[16:16] <ForgeAus> um... well you have lotsa options there EXT3 and/or FAT32 are probably your best bets
[16:16] <Oleander> ok thanks
[16:16] <Oleander> location for new parition: beginning or end?
[16:16] <ForgeAus> EXT2IFS can mount your EXT3 partition in windows (again its preferred more to read from than write to)
[16:17] <Oleander> yeh
[16:17] <ForgeAus> and mounting in linux or using fstab to automount for you can read a FAT32 or NTFS partition
[16:17] <ForgeAus> again its best to read-only but read-write is available
[16:17] <Oleander> i dont really want to write to ext3 while in win, but def read from
[16:17] <dutzz> hellow all :) i have a lil' problem... i can't mount a hdd using KDE... with GNOME works just fine... with KDE just can't get it work :( any ideeas ?
[16:17] <joseph> yoyoy
[16:18] <Oleander> ForgeAus: location for new parition: beginning or end?
[16:18] <joseph> My mp3's r nt not workin,,,,,,,,Can anyone suggest me a remedy
[16:18] <ForgeAus> theres also another way Oleander, theres a windows utility program that reads ext2/3 drives, forgot what its called tho
[16:18] <ForgeAus> but EXT2IFS mounts it as if its a native disk, much better
[16:19] <genii> stdin: dutzz's remark reminds me that someone needs to fix the kde gui mount tool, it puts weird gibberish into the fstab
[16:19] <ForgeAus> Oleander again I'd probably suggest beginning
[16:19] <Oleander> thanks
[16:19] <ForgeAus> I really don't know why you get that choice it makes no difference to me
[16:19] <Oleander> yeh
[16:19] <ForgeAus> unless I guess you know precisely what your doing with it...
[16:19] <Oleander> mount point for that shared parition. atm default is /dos
[16:19] <Dutzzu> genii, what with me ?
[16:20] <ForgeAus> erm, ohhkay... for now I'd leave it at the default
[16:20] <Oleander> ok
[16:20] <Oleander> sorry was choice of /dos or /windows
[16:20] <Oleander> default is /dos
[16:21] <ForgeAus> um I'm not sure about mount points in this case if its the directory on that drive or the directory in your root filesystem it will place the tree of that drive its mounting...
[16:21] <ForgeAus> either way it can be changed anyway
[16:21] <Oleander> ok
[16:21] <Oleander> and swap drive does that need mount point?
[16:22] <bazhang> joseph do you have the proper codecs installed?
[16:22] <ForgeAus> normally automounts go in either a /mnt/devname/ (ie /mnt/sda1) or /media/devname directory
[16:22] <ForgeAus> I doubt it but if it does just go with the default
[16:23] <ibou> hi
[16:23] <ForgeAus> linux activates your swap drive automatically, I'm not sure its the same as mounting...
[16:23] <ForgeAus> (it detects the partition you set aside for it)
[16:25] <ForgeAus> note: Oleander since you have a "shared" drive you might be best not to have your windows drive in the fstab and you may not require the EXT2IFS
[16:25] <ForgeAus> (just copy all the stuff you want to be visible to the other file system in there)
[16:25] <genii> Dutzzu: The graphical mounting tool of kubuntu which is found in Kbutton...System Settings...Advanced Tab...Disk and Filesystems     It does not work correctly when adding a new mount
[16:25] <ForgeAus> that way you keep your system drives safer
[16:25] <Oleander> i hope ive chosen right mount point for my fat32 partition
[16:26] <genii> Dutzzu: It is better to manually add an entry into the file /etc/fstab
[16:26]  * ForgeAus shrugs...
[16:26] <Dutzzu> genii, so it's nothig i can do to use that hdd ? i must use GMONE ?
[16:26] <ForgeAus> Oleander just keep going for now
[16:26] <Oleander> okies
[16:26] <boiblu> is anyone else having problems with firefox playing flash and java?
[16:26] <Dutzzu> genii,  could u help me do that ? i'm new in linux... really need help :)
[16:27] <genii> Dutzzu: You can use KDE, but add the mounting options for the drive manually into the file /etc/fstab. Do you know some details of the drive? Like what the partition name is for it (/dev/sdd1 or such) also the filesystem on it
[16:28] <Oleander> ForgeAus: installing now...thanks for walking me through it :)
[16:28] <alexi5> hello
[16:28] <ForgeAus> bioblu you might have that kind of trouble if your using 64bit
[16:29] <ForgeAus> otherwise it should work
[16:29] <ForgeAus> (assuming you have the plugins)
[16:29] <genii> Dutzzu: For this exercise you will need to know how to use the pastebin website to let us see the contents of some files and results of some commands, instead of pasting it into the channel here.
[16:29] <genii> !pastebin | Dutzzu the pastebin address is here, don't forget to give us the url when using it
[16:30] <ubotu> Dutzzu the pastebin address is here, don't forget to give us the url when using it: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:30] <Dutzzu> genii,  ok, w8 a sec to see if i can handle it
[16:30] <ForgeAus> Oleander, just out of interest what video card are you using?
[16:30] <boiblu> forge i dont know what 64 bit your talking about
[16:31] <Dutzzu> oke genii , opened that link... what do you want me to paste there ?
[16:31] <genii> Dutzzu: So please open Konsole and put into the pastebin the following:    result of the command:   sudo fdisk -l                 and also the results of command: cat /etc/fstab          and also result of command: blkid
[16:31] <ForgeAus> boiblu if your kubuntu is for an AMD64 processor for example... the standard i386 version doesn't have that problem it uses only 32-bit software for everything
[16:32] <boiblu> no i have the standard
[16:32] <ForgeAus> ok then check if you have the plugins for flash and java installed
[16:33] <ForgeAus> if not you can get them from adept (or you can remove them from adept and reinstall them, but someone told me that was a typical windows user's response, to reinstall whatever doesn't work)
[16:33] <boiblu> i installed them but they dont show up in my plug ins
[16:33] <genii> Dutzzu: To copy from the Konsole window, highlight text with the mouse then right-click and choose Copy
[16:34] <ForgeAus> ahh then maybe you didn't install the right ones?
[16:34] <boiblu> that could be possible
[16:34] <boiblu> but it was the recommended ver
[16:34] <ForgeAus> ok well go to sun's website and/or adobe's that way you can be sure they'll work
[16:34] <Dutzzu> genii, here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52280/
[16:35] <ForgeAus> !java
[16:35] <genii> Dutzzu: OK, reading
[16:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[16:35] <ForgeAus> !Flash
[16:35] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[16:35] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[16:35] <boiblu> lol ill figure this thing out one way or another
[16:35] <ForgeAus> oh ok, that info might help you boiblu seems like problems with the packages
[16:35] <ForgeAus> (check out those url's)
[16:37] <genii> Dutzzu: There seems something not right. It reports partition type of sda1 as NTFS (win 2k/XP/Vista) but you apparently have formatted it as linux ext3 filesystem and are using it for your root filesystem.
[16:37] <mike_> ah so that's what's up with flash and konqueror
[16:39] <Dutzzu> genii,  can't be... i'm having 2 hdd: 1) Maxtor - 80Gb... on this i have installed ubuntu ( GMONE and after also KDE ) 2) Western 250 Gb with two partitions 20 Gb and the other 230 Gb on witch i have windows Xp
[16:40] <Oleander> ForgeAus: at end of install i got a error saying cannot access security updates - is that a concern?
[16:40] <Dutzzu> genii, and as i said, on GMONEt works perfectly fine! :s
[16:42] <genii> Dutzzu: Ah, I see now the UUID it gives for sda1 in fstab is inaccurate, it is the UUID of your actual / which is sdb1
[16:42] <genii> Dutzzu: So you wish to see the NTFS drives from in kubuntu I assume
[16:43] <ForgeAus> Oleander I don't know
[16:43] <ForgeAus> but security updates should be installable from within kubuntu once you boot it
[16:43] <Oleander> ForgeAus: i have an onboard video card as well as an ati 128mb with dvi and vga. on windows i run two lcds in dual off the ati video card. for kubunty setup i had to choose in bios my onboard video card and plug one of my lcds in as setup couldnt continue unless i did this. so after install am going to have to fix that up
[16:43] <kn6220> french?
[16:43] <ForgeAus> Oleander you may have some difficulty with the ATI drivers
[16:44] <ForgeAus> !ati
[16:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:44] <ForgeAus> that url is a walkthrough
[16:44] <Dutzzu> gene_, yes, i want to mount the hdd Western... i have all the information on that.. music, documents etc... and i cant mount it on KDe... only on GMONE
[16:44] <Oleander> thanks
[16:44] <ForgeAus> the onboard one, if its ATI or nvidia will apply too
[16:45] <ForgeAus> otherwise no problem
[16:47] <genii> Dutzzu: OK, still now in Konsole:  sudo mkdir /media/sda1; sudo mkdir /media/sda2; sudo mkdir /media/sda5                 then I will give the 3 lines to add into the file /etc/fstab
[16:48] <Dutzzu> genii,  done :)
[16:49] <genii> Dutzzu: still in Konsole: sudo nano /etc/fstab               this will open a simple text editor with the file we need to alter. navigate to bottom of file and add the lines I give after this
[16:49] <boiblu> forgeAus could it be i had more then on flash player installed ?
[16:50] <Oleander> forgeAus: should i install ati driver before changing bios video card settings?
[16:50] <genii> Dutzzu: UUID=AE746D46746D127F /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[16:51] <genii> Dutzzu: Hmmmm. It seems your /dev/sda5 is type "swap" so we will leave it for now
[16:52] <Dutzzu> oke genii, w8 pls :)
[16:52] <___thomas-> hi
[16:52] <___thomas-> little kde4 problem
[16:53] <___thomas-> got this from kubuntu site
[16:53] <___thomas-> To avoid having to start a second X server for a full session install xserver-xephyr and run Xephyr :1 then  and run /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde in the Xerphyr xterm.
[16:53] <genii> Dutzzu: /dev/sda2       /media/sdb1 auto defaults 0       1
[16:53] <___thomas-> but when I do Xephyr :& in Konsole it just gives me a window in which I cant do anything
[16:53] <genii> Dutzzu: There was no UUID reported for sda2 so we must revert to the /dev  name
[16:54] <Dutzzu> this after i insterted that with UUID=... ?
[16:54] <genii> WAIT
[16:54] <genii> Dutzzu: WAIT
[16:54] <genii> Dutzzu: /dev/sda2       /media/sda2 auto defaults 0       1
[16:54] <Dutzzu> genii, look : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52285/
[16:54] <genii> Dutzzu: The above line is right not sdb1 for mount
[16:56] <Dutzzu> genii, to make it easyer & safer, could u write the file as it should be and then i'll copy it ? u lost me :s
[16:58] <niall> I want to remove a bunch of files starting with the same thing using the terminal
[16:58] <genii> Dutzzu: OK. I will make a pastebin entry then of how it should go. You have for some reason 2 partitions with the same UUID which could be causing issues also.
[16:58] <niall> how do I do that?
[16:58] <niall> rm start* is what I'm going for
[16:59] <Dutzzu> genii, oke thanks a lot! i don't know why they have the same UUID :( but i can't understand why on GMONE works fine and on KDE it doesn't :(
[16:59] <niall> hmm
[17:00] <Oleander> who is really good with video card stuff on kubuntu?
[17:00] <jpatrick> !nickspam > stones`
[17:03] <eddy> hi
[17:03] <eddy> im eddy
[17:04] <eddy> and i recently install kubuntu
[17:04] <DreadKnight> eddy: hello there :) everything going well?
[17:05] <mani213> whats  decent dvd player for linux?
[17:05] <DreadKnight> mani213: i think dragonplayer
[17:05] <SlimeyPe1e> vlc
[17:05] <bazhang> kaffeine mani213
[17:06] <DreadKnight> kaffeine ftw
[17:06] <DreadKnight> ^^
[17:06] <mani213> kaffeine came with kubuntu but doesnt work:S
[17:06] <SlimeyPe1e> !dvd
[17:06] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[17:06] <SlimeyPe1e> you need libdvdcss ^^
[17:07] <bazhang> 2
[17:07] <SlimeyPe1e> !medibuntu
[17:07] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[17:07] <niall> I didn't realise people actually watched DVDs on their PC :z
[17:07] <mani213> well i got a plasma monitor gives me all the reasons to
[17:07] <mani213> when i have a crt tv
[17:07] <niall> plasma monitor?
[17:07] <niall> how big is it?
[17:08] <mani213> like 25 inch
[17:08] <mani213> nothing to special
[17:08] <bazhang> wow
[17:08] <niall> surely you mean LCD? :z
[17:08] <mani213> i live on uni resedents
[17:08] <mani213> so i dont have a big tv
[17:08] <mani213> i just used computer monitor
[17:08] <mani213> i attached it to my tv tuner
[17:09] <mani213> superman101
[17:09] <mani213> how
[17:09] <mani213> do i reg my nick
[17:09] <mani213> for this chat?
[17:10] <SlimeyPe1e>  /msg nickserv help register
[17:10] <Oleander> can someone plz help me with video card
[17:11] <SlimeyPe1e> Oleander: what's the problem?
[17:11] <niall> so can anyone help me here, I need to delete a bunch of files at command line, but I don't want to do them all individually. They all start with the same bit of text, so is there some way I can delete them all at once?
[17:11] <genii> Dutzzu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52288/
[17:11] <Oleander> SlimeyPe1e: i have onboard video card as well as ati 128mb pci with dvi and vga. i have two lcd running of ati card. in order to install ubuntu i had to change bios to onboard. now i have finished install. how do i go back to having my two lcds off ati card instead?
[17:11] <Dutzzu> gene_,  oke, w8 :)
[17:12] <SlimeyPe1e> Oleander: I've not come across your situation before, but I guess that installing the ATI drivers and then re-enabling the card should work
[17:12] <SlimeyPe1e> !ati
[17:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:12] <jussi01> !dualhead
[17:12] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[17:12] <genii> Dutzzu: To exit the program nano, use ctrl-x  then choose Y to save the file, Enter or Return key for same name as previous
[17:13] <Oleander> SlimeyPe1e: so i should install ati drivers b4 i try to setup lcds on ati card?
[17:14] <SlimeyPe1e> Oleander: I think that would be the best idea, yes, if Ubuntu only currently works with your onboard.
[17:14] <niall> you should probably install the ones from the restricted drivers manager
[17:15] <mani213> is ogle dvd player any good?
[17:16] <Oleander> niall: got popup saying ur system doesnt need any restricted drivers
[17:16] <niall> that's probably because your ati card is turned off or whatever in the bios
[17:16] <niall> I dunno ;'
[17:17] <niall> why did you have to use the onboard to install?
[17:17] <Oleander> niall: yes it it turned off
[17:17] <KRF> hi there, i cant adjust my brightness within my dell xps m1530. is there a known issue? any way how to debug this?
[17:18] <Oleander> cuz wouldnt work otherwise. someone in ubuntu said it was common problem and to turn it while i install
[17:18] <KRF> other keycombs work, f.e. "fn + hibernate" and stuff
[17:18] <MilitantPotato> Which is preferred, KNetworkManager, or Network-Manager-KDE
[17:19] <Dutzzu> genii, done! and now i have to restart ?
[17:19] <MilitantPotato> Ah nevermind, one's a meta package X(
[17:19] <genii> Dutzzu: no
[17:19] <eddy> well im try to install stepmania now
[17:19] <Oleander> niall: in my monitor and display settings its detecting intel card and ati card (fglrx)
[17:19] <Dutzzu> genii, hm... :s
[17:20] <genii> Dutzzu: just :  mount -a              and they should now be mounted (hopefully)
[17:20] <niall> maybe you should try turning the onboard off and the ati on then booting into ubuntu
[17:20] <niall> maybe it'll sort itself out
[17:20] <senorpedro> is it possible that the sfDateValidator does not work when the input_date_tag has the option "rich=false" ?
[17:20] <senorpedro> damn wrong channel...again
[17:20] <Dutzzu> genii, guess what... :-s :((
[17:21] <genii> Dutzzu: What error did it give if any
[17:21] <Oleander> niall: tried that and got black screen after kubuntu startup
[17:21] <eddy> hey, someone can help me? my notebook dont read the wireless card
[17:21] <Dutzzu> genii,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52290/
[17:21] <eddy> what can i do?
[17:21] <genii> Dutzzu: rEADING
[17:21] <jussi01> eddy: whicch wireless card?
[17:21] <niall> Oleander: just black and nothing else?
[17:21] <Oleander> yep
[17:23] <genii> Dutzzu: sda2 may also be then ntfs instead of vfat, even though the system reports it's partition type differently. So change it's line to be:
[17:24] <genii> Dutzzu: /dev/sda2 /media/sda2     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46,auto 0       1
[17:24] <genii> Dutzzu: For this you need to go again with the:   sudo nano /etc/fstab
[17:25] <Oleander> niall: what should i do first then?
[17:25] <niall> I have no idea :z
[17:25] <niall> I haven't had this problem
[17:26] <Oleander> :(
[17:27] <Dutzzu> genii, look: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52292/
[17:27] <genii> Dutzzu: Reading
[17:27] <KRF> someone got backlight adjustment to work with a dell xps m1530? it doesnt recognize "fn + keydown"
[17:28] <genii> Dutzzu: OK, so then change it again to this instead:
[17:29] <genii> Dutzzu: /dev/sda2       /media/sda2 auto rw,user,auto 0       1
[17:29] <genii> Dutzzu:Then the mounter tries to decide what kind of filesystem and mount it
[17:30] <KRF> how can i manually (in console) adjust my backlight?
[17:30] <Dutzzu> genii, mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[17:32] <anabelle> if i install KDE4 will i loose KDE 3.5?
[17:33] <jpatrick> anabelle: no
[17:33] <Dutzzu> genii, the 20Gb partition from Western it's mounted!!! :D but the one i need it's not :)))
[17:33] <ForgeAus> isn't there a 3.8?
[17:34] <ForgeAus> Oleander u there?
[17:34] <lex> fala serio
[17:34] <ForgeAus> two things to read for you
[17:34] <ForgeAus> for ATI drivers
[17:35] <ForgeAus> !ati
[17:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:35] <ForgeAus> and if you still have boot troubles
[17:35] <ForgeAus> !recovery
[17:35] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[17:35] <ForgeAus> oops... wrong one
[17:35] <ForgeAus> um whats the url to recovery after install?
[17:35] <genii> Dutzzu: I still think it is really vfat filesystem there, but the mount options may not be good. So then to try:
[17:35] <ForgeAus> !grub
[17:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:35] <ForgeAus> thats the one :)
[17:36] <genii> Dutzzu: /dev/sda2       /media/sda2 vfat defaults 0       1
[17:36] <ForgeAus> if oleander asks anything about not being able to boot tell him to backread those URL's :)
[17:36] <ForgeAus> !umsdos
[17:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umsdos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:36] <ForgeAus> hmm interesting
[17:36] <genii> Dutzzu: Then after saving do specifically:  mount /media/sda2
[17:37] <stones`> how can i install a new user with an existing home folder?
[17:38] <Dutzzu> genii, same error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52293/
[17:39] <genii> Dutzzu: Change vfat  to msdos  and try again
[17:40] <Dutzzu> genii,  so: /dev/sda2       /media/sda2 msdos defaults 0
[17:40] <Dutzzu> ?
[17:40] <genii> Dutzzu: Yes
[17:40] <ForgeAus> omg we have a hero! :)
[17:40] <ForgeAus> erm had
[17:41] <sigma_1234> do usb skype phones work with kubuntu?
[17:41] <genii> Dutzzu: With your Windows (if you remember), did you upgrade from a previous version and keep the old filesystem, or was it all ntfs?
[17:44] <genii> Dutzzu: Eating lunch so expect a bit of lag
[17:44] <Dutzzu> genii, bon apetit !
[17:45] <Dutzzu> genii, didn t upgrade at all,,, when i made the partitions on Western i made 'em all NTFS
[17:45] <arunkale> hello, people.. i need to connect to the internet using pppoe. my settings are all correct, and i am able to connect to the internet. the problem is, it keeps disconnecting randomly. usually i can re-connect without restarting my computer, but it is getting to be very irritating. I checked my ppp log and i got this message: CHAP authentication failed: I don't like you.  Go 'way.
[17:46] <arunkale> The same log for yesterday says CHAP authentication succeeded: Welcome to 7NETSRV12
[17:46] <arunkale> any ideas?
[17:46] <Dutzzu> genii, same error on msdos :)
[17:47] <kingrayray> anybody know any handy tricks to speed up kde4 a bit?
[17:47] <sigma_1234> wait for 4.1?
[17:47] <kingrayray> lmao thats my plan as it stands
[17:47] <genii> Dutzzu: The previous error when we tried ntfs was: "The device '/dev/sda2' doesn't have a valid NTFS."     so I think the partition type that fdisk reported might be confusing the mounter, eg: /dev/sda2            2551       30401   223713157+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[17:48] <kingrayray> its pretty cool, i just dont know if this really should be a release.. buncha silly little bugs it seems
[17:48] <adz21c> kingrayray: if your using xinerama ... don't lol, it practically dies with that
[17:48] <kingrayray> nah no xinerama
[17:48] <kingrayray> is there a way to like, configure the compositing?
[17:48] <kingrayray> i think thats my primary issue
[17:48] <Dutzzu> genii, yep, i've readed that :(... if u write: sudo apt-get uninstall kde
[17:48] <adz21c> systemsettings -> desktop
[17:48] <Dutzzu> and than reinstall kde, it might work well ?
[17:50] <genii> Dutzzu: There is another thing we could try, since you say it mounts OK in Gnome. Go to Gnome then see what command:   mount          reports as filesystem type or mounted options of that sda2 partition
[17:50] <Dutzzu> genii, oke... i'll log in using GMONE, write mount, and copy the resoults
[17:51] <Dutzzu> genii, *brb* than :)
[17:51] <genii> Dutzzu: Also there the command :    cat /etc/mtab      may actually give us a better idea
[17:51] <Dutzzu> genii, mount & cat /etc/mtab commands :D
[17:51] <pietro_> ciao
[17:52] <Oleander> in konsole to log in as root its su and ur pw u setup during install yeh?
[17:52] <genii> !root
[17:52] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:54] <niall> why doesn't adept use the theme I've set?
[17:54] <niall> everything else does :x
[17:54] <sigma_1234> !info skype
[17:54] <ubotu> Package skype does not exist in gutsy
[17:54] <jussi01> niall: adept is running as root, and root has its own theme
[17:54] <jussi01> !skype | sigma_1234
[17:54] <ubotu> sigma_1234: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[17:54] <sigma_1234> !skype
[17:55] <niall> jussi01: can I change root's theme to match? ;D
[17:55] <jussi01> niall: I assume so, but not sure, never had to do it.
[17:56] <niall> maybe if I launch the theme configger with kdesudo, and set a theme it'll set it for root
[17:58] <soon> Hi folks - having som sound problems: System beep seems to work, but running ogg123 from CLI I get: http://pastebin.com/d23f05b8f
[17:58] <soon> any ideas?
[17:58] <Oleander> genii: wheres hardware manager on kubuntu, i need to find out bus id of onbaord video card
[18:00] <Dutzzu> genii, i'm back :) look here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52294/
[18:00] <niall> oh balls
[18:01] <niall> I think I've broken it
[18:01] <Dutzzu> genii, i'm on GMONE now... when i wrote : mount i got a msg... i entered in /media and right click on partition... choosed mount and it mounted ok ...
[18:03] <Blaenk> hey guys
[18:03] <Blaenk> I installed kde4-core but it's pretty buggy, I'd like to use KDE 3 for the time being, how can I remove it?
[18:04] <Blaenk> I tried sudo apt-get remove kde4-core but I guess it's a meta package
[18:04] <genii> Dutzzu: OK, so this is in Terminal ? (Gnomes equivelent of Konsole)
[18:04] <Blaenk> because it said couldn't find package kde4-core
[18:04] <Blaenk> I know I could keep them alongside each other but I don't want any conflicts
[18:04] <Blaenk> anyone?
[18:04] <Dutzzu> genii, yep, that's the msg i get in terminal
[18:04] <JAM> yeah
[18:05] <genii> Dutzzu: just type only:  mount                   and it will normally give you a list of what is mounted already plus what filesystem etc
[18:05] <niall> that totally fixed it
[18:05] <rothchild> bla
[18:05] <Dutzzu> genii, if i right click on that "problem partition" and choose propreties, and go to the volume it says that is NTFS
[18:05] <rothchild> Blaenk: just search for kde4 in adept or synaptic
[18:05] <genii> Dutzzu: OK good.
[18:05] <Blaenk> rothchild, kay
[18:06] <Dutzzu> genii, look at mount: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52296/
[18:06] <Blaenk> that doesn't help
[18:06] <rothchild> why not?
[18:07] <genii> Dutzzu: So then it is sda5 and not sda2 in this case that we want to mount
[18:08] <Strangelet> Kopete refuses to show the buddy icons of my friend in AIM, is there a known cure?
[18:10] <Dutzzu> genii, so, could you edit fstab for me now ?
[18:11] <genii> Dutzzu: Yes, basically then just use the line for sda1 which is ntfs and put at the beginning: /dev/sda5     /media/sda5               instead of      /dev/sda2    /media/sda2
[18:11] <genii> Dutzzu: You can use nano from Terminal as from inside Konsole
[18:12] <Dutzzu> genii, and what about sda5 ? i leave it as it is ?
[18:12] <MGalaxy> MAKE ERROR: http://phpfi.com/290389 , which libraries should be installed ?
[18:13] <Strangelet> Kopete refuses to show the buddy icons of my friend in AIM, is there a known cure?
[18:13] <genii> Dutzzu: sda5 is the one we want to mount, not sda2     I don't know whats going on with sda2 but apparently its not the one you wanted anyhow
[18:14] <genii> Dutzzu: Just put a # in front of any line that has sda2    in it
[18:15] <genii> Dutzzu: Then the needed line: /dev/sda5 /media/sda5     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46,auto 0       1
[18:15] <genii> Dutzzu: For some reason your sda5 and sdb5 have exact same UUID so we must use the /dev     way
[18:16] <Dutzzu> genii, is it oke? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52300/
[18:16] <Oleander> genii: on kubuntu wheres is hardware manager?
[18:16] <Dutzzu> genii, i'm confused about the line with UUID for sda 5... it says at the end: swap...
[18:20] <genii> Dutzzu: Yes, exactly. Thats why I was trying for sda2 instead. Reading the paste, 1 minute
[18:23] <crackhead_25__> anyone know how to resize a logical partition??
[18:23] <genii> Dutzzu: CHANGE: /dev/sda5       /media/sda5   defaults,umask=007,gid=46,auto 0       1               TO: /dev/sda5       /media/sda5   ntfs   defaults,umask=007,gid=46,auto 0       1
[18:23] <crackhead_25__> i have ane xtended with two logical within it.. i want to shrink one of them and join the extra empty space to the second logical
[18:23] <crackhead_25__> qtparted doesnt seem to allow me that option??
[18:24] <genii> Dutzzu: Basically just insert ntfs     between /dev/sda5 and where it starts with defaults,umask...
[18:24] <genii> Dutzzu: Work needs me. Away a couple minutes
[18:25] <Dutzzu> genii, oke :)
[18:25] <crackhead_25__> genii: you have any idea on my situation?
[18:27] <Strangelet> Can anyone recommend a good webcam program?
[18:29] <help> genii: you there?
[18:29] <crackhead_25_> sorry, dont know if my msg went through.. i have ane xtended with two logical within it.. i want to shrink one of them and join the extra empty space to the second logical
[18:30] <crackhead_25_> qt parted wont let me.. anyone know why or how to make it??
[18:32] <slow-motion> re
[18:32] <MilitantPotato> crackhead_25_: might need to move it to the beginning of the extended?
[18:32] <MilitantPotato> the shrunken one.
[18:32] <crackhead_25_> MilitantPotato: i havent shrunken anything.. how do i do what you suggest?
[18:33] <MilitantPotato> crackhead_25_: I believe there's a move partition function
[18:33] <MilitantPotato> crackhead_25_: make backups before you do anything, moving/shrinking partitions is very risky.
[18:33] <MilitantPotato> IMO I'd just back everything up and delete both, and create ones in the sizes you want.
[18:33] <crackhead_25_> how do i back everything up?
[18:34] <MilitantPotato> copy the files
[18:34] <crackhead_25_> copy where if i dont have any more space on hd's?
[18:34] <Dutzzu> genii, i have to go now too, *bbl* ... THANKS a lot for your help!! best regards :)
[18:34] <MilitantPotato> That'd be a problem.   DVD's maybe?
[18:35] <crackhead_25_> too much info for just a dvd.. don't have any dvd's either..
[18:35] <MilitantPotato> Ok, well It's just a recommendation.
[18:35] <crackhead_25_> MilitantPotato: do you know what it means to "image" a drive? is that an option?
[18:36] <MilitantPotato> Image means make an exact copy
[18:36] <MilitantPotato> If you have a Spare HD laying around that'd be a great move.
[18:37] <crackhead_25_> i have no spare.. i thought image might mean a way of taking a picture of the data and compressing that picture so that it doesn't take up nearly as much space.. but stores the data in a different algorithm?
[18:37] <MilitantPotato> It may, I'm not too sure, might want to read the help :)
[18:37] <crackhead_25_> help where?
[18:37] <MilitantPotato> in shell you can type "man programname"
[18:37] <crackhead_25_> does anyone else know or can weigh in on this topic??
[18:39] <Downix> Core 2 Duo: 32 or 64-bit better for it?
[18:39] <MilitantPotato> unless you have a specific need for 64-bit, go for the 32.
[18:40] <MilitantPotato> Performance wise, the gain from 64bit is not worth mentioning
[18:40] <Downix> it's on a laptop so I didn't think it would
[18:41] <MilitantPotato> Well, 32 would be my vote.
[18:41] <LeAstrale> if  using anything X-Fi take 64bit
[18:41] <Downix> it's a Dell XPS
[18:41] <MilitantPotato> 64bit needs 32bit firefox for flash support, but that's the only real hassle I had.
[18:44] <kurosaki_ichigo> is there a plan to port kdenlive ?
[18:45] <jpatrick> kdenlive?
[18:46] <DreadKnight> you know.. the video editor ^^
[18:46] <LeAstrale> apparently no one knew DreadKnight
[18:46] <DreadKnight> >_<
[18:49] <administrator__> :)
[18:49] <cnStarz> w00t fresh install of kubuntu
[18:49] <cnStarz> is anyone here?
[18:50] <Downix> nope, we left for the day
[18:50] <cnStarz> darn
[18:50] <cnStarz> im new to linux all together and this is my frist install
[18:50] <LeAstrale> :P
[18:51] <LeAstrale> cnStarz: everyone is hiding from you ;)
[18:51] <cnStarz> does kde 4.0 come with kubuntu 7.1?
[18:51] <Downix> cnStarz: Not by default, no.
[18:51] <Downix> cnStarz: KDE4 is newer
[18:51] <LeAstrale> no it doesn't (except for the KDE4.0 live cd)
[18:52] <cnStarz> is kde4 like another version of kubuntu?
[18:52] <cnStarz> or is it an add-on of sort?
[18:52] <LeAstrale> Kubuntu is just linux with more modules and KDE as desktop
[18:52] <matteo> hi all
[18:52] <matteo> all my icons disappeared
[18:52] <matteo> and in kmenu all is repeated twice
[18:52] <Downix> KDE is a window manager, one component of the system
[18:52] <cnStarz> ah ok
[18:53] <LeAstrale> matteo: lol.. that sounds pretty strange
[18:53] <cnStarz> so i install kde within kubuntu
[18:53] <tekstacy> 'morning all
[18:53] <Downix> right
[18:53] <Downix> Ubuntu, like any Linux, is incredibly customizable
[18:53] <cnStarz> gotcha gotcha
[18:53] <LeAstrale> if you want KD4.0 write: sudo apt-get install kde4
[18:53] <Downix> We have a wide variety of desktop options, such as KDE, GNOME, OpenStep, Sawtooth, Enlightenment, Black Box, twm2....
[18:54] <Downix> I happen to like KDE for work, and Enlightenment for fun
[18:54] <cnStarz> where do i type that command at?
[18:54] <Downix> cnStarz: command prompt.  Menu -> System -> KConsole
[18:54] <marcel> hi guys
[18:54] <cnStarz> oh i guess in the command prompt lol
[18:55] <marcel> i'm looking for some software to switch between my screen and additional lcd screen without restart xserver
[18:55] <marcel> any ideas?
[18:55] <administrateur> you can buy something to do this no ?
[18:55] <marcel> kubuntu desktop
[18:55] <cnStarz> so what exactly is "sudo apt-get install kde4" doing?  is it going out to a server and downloading it, then installing it?
[18:56] <jpatrick> cnStarz: yes
[18:56] <cnStarz> gotcha
[18:56] <jussi01> marcel: Urandr
[18:56] <marcel> thnx jussi i will try it
[18:57] <jussi01> !tab > marcel
[18:57] <Oleander> help: how do i restart x server?
[18:57] <cnStarz> this is what happened:
[18:57] <cnStarz> administrator@Kubuntu-Test:~$ sudo apt-get install kde4
[18:57] <cnStarz> [sudo] password for administrator:
[18:57] <cnStarz> Reading package lists... Done
[18:57] <cnStarz> Building dependency tree
[18:57] <cnStarz> Reading state information... Done
[18:57] <cnStarz> E: Couldn't find package kde4
[18:57] <jussi01> !paste | cnStarz
[18:57] <ubotu> cnStarz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:57] <cnStarz> oops didn't mean to flood the channel
[18:57] <marcel> !tab?
[18:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tab? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:57] <jussi01> cnStarz: #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support
[18:57] <cnStarz> kk
[18:57] <cnStarz> thanks
[18:58] <jussi01> marcel: see your private messages
[18:59] <jussi01> !nickspam > administrateur_
[18:59] <marcel> i'm using konversation
[19:00] <administrateur_> ok ok wait plz
[19:00] <administrateur_> im trying yo change
[19:00] <jussi01> !tab | marcel
[19:00] <ubotu> marcel: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[19:00] <jussi01> marcel: it works in konversation also :)
[19:02] <marcel> jussi01: like this?
[19:02] <jussi01> marcel: :)
[19:02] <marcel> jussi01: ok
[19:02] <jussi01> marcel: that makes the text hilight so I see it :)
[19:02] <marcel> jussi01: so this urandr is related to kde?
[19:02] <marcel> jussi01: cool i'm not familier with irc
[19:03] <marcel> jussi01: now i understand:)
[19:04] <e-novies> hi every one
[19:04] <jussi01> marcel: google is a good friend :)
[19:04] <genii> back
[19:05] <marcel> jussi01: i know
[19:06] <marcel> jussi01: i can tell the same for the other people when they ask me isn't?
[19:06] <marcel> jussi01: so what is porpose of irc like not quick info from experienced people?
[19:07] <jussi01> marcel: its still early in it development stages, so have a look and play first
[19:07] <marcel> jussi01: ok BTW do you know some other stable apllications for it?
[19:08] <jussi01> marcel: Im sorry, not at the moment
[19:09] <marcel> jussi01: ok thanx any way i will look around:)
[19:09] <jussi01> marcel: good luck :)
[19:09] <Oleander> question: if kubuntu says i dont need any restricted drivers for my video card is something really wrong?
[19:09] <marcel> #ubuntu
[19:09] <marcel> join #ubuntu
[19:11] <genii> Oleander: No, in fact the opposite
[19:12] <Oleander> genii: i have ati 9250 vid card how do i install drivers for kubuntu?
[19:12] <stones`> when i start for example kate the console gives me 3 lines of error messages which contain:"... is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0..."
[19:13] <stones`> i reinstalled kubuntu and use my old home directory. I think that could be the problem
[19:14] <stones`> what can i do?
[19:17] <dazjorz> Hi
[19:17] <dazjorz> I'm having some problems with wpa_supplicant
[19:17] <dazjorz> WPA: 4-Way Handshake failed - pre-shared key may be incorrect
[19:18] <dazjorz> It succeeds in associating, that's about as far as I can get...
[19:22] <genii> Oleander: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[19:23] <affan> hi All, I installed Kubuntu 7.10 from the CD and after "Fetching Updates" using Adept i found the option of Dist Upgrade. I started the process and it downloaded a bunch of files but now it is hung at the step "Installing Upgrades". Do you know what might the problem be? Can I close it and start it again?
[19:24] <TeeAhr1> has anyone else had a problem with losing their virtual consoles since installing kde4? i've been struggling with this for days now.
[19:25] <niall> affan: I you didn't want to have done that :<
[19:25] <niall> affan: there is no dist upgrade from 7.10 yet
[19:26] <dazjorz> does anybody have a working WPA configuration in wpa_supplicant? It won't work here
[19:26] <affan> niall: you are right. I was also confused but i did it anyways... can i shut it down now?
[19:26] <stdin> affan: just update the system normally "Full Upgrade", that'll fix that
[19:26] <ScorpKing> hm.. the dist upgrade option should be disbled if there is no upgrade
[19:27] <affan> ok thanks stdin, niall
[19:27] <jussi01> ScorpKing: iirc, its a bug...
[19:27] <stdin> ScorpKing: old bug, if you remember that far back
[19:27] <niall> I had the same problem last night
[19:27] <niall> fixed it all now though ;D
[19:27] <jussi01> :)
[19:27] <rasmus> Hi, I can't seem to install the new 7.10 gutsy on my desktop.. I get some wierd screen 'fuckups' and then i end up waiting at a black screen with a blinking underscore at the top left corner??
[19:28] <ScorpKing> oh. i must have missed that
[19:28] <rasmus> I've both tried the normal install and the safe graphics :(
[19:28] <rasmus> it does the same
[19:28] <ScorpKing> !wtf | rasmus
[19:28] <ubotu> rasmus: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:29] <jussi01> rasmus: live or alternate cd? gfx hardware?
[19:29] <rasmus> ScorpKing: sorry! But i couldn't find a suitable english word for it :( I'm not that good in english, truly sorry
[19:29] <rasmus> jussi01: live
[19:29] <rasmus> my gfx is a nvidia fx 5900
[19:29] <rasmus> pentium 4 2.6 ghz
[19:29] <rasmus> 1 gig ram
[19:29] <rasmus> 3 sata disks
[19:30] <affan> i have a question: is it a modified version of KDE that comes with Kubuntu 7.10? If so, does the Kubuntu team plan of releasing a customized 4.0 version of KDE as well?
[19:30] <rasmus> ScorpKing: what is the right word for this 'flickering stuff'?
[19:30] <jussi01> rasmus: how long did you leave it for?
[19:30] <rasmus> 10-15 minutes i guess
[19:30] <jussi01> rasmus: you just said it... ;)
[19:31] <rasmus> jussi01: haha, I have to wait more??
[19:31] <jussi01> rasmus: no I was referring to "flickering stuff"
[19:31] <rasmus> jussi01: ahh, hehe ok :)
[19:31] <jussi01> rasmus: did you check the md5sum of the iso before you burnt it?
[19:31] <ScorpKing> rasmus: no idea. any sugestions? :)
[19:31] <rasmus> I think i'm a bit irritated as well, I've been trying for ages to get it working now :(
[19:31] <rasmus> ScorpKing: got it ;)
[19:32] <rasmus> I tried to run the 'check cd for defects' and it was ok
[19:32] <rasmus> I can check the md5sum ?
[19:32] <sigma_1234> !java
[19:32] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[19:32] <jussi01> !md5
[19:32] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[19:32] <affan> When doing a *Full Upgrade* I get the following error. Do u know how to fix it?: "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[19:32] <ScorpKing> rasmus: what graphics card do you have in that box?
[19:33] <rasmus> ScorpKing: Asus Nvidia 5900 FX Geforce
[19:33] <niall> affan: I got that :<
[19:33] <jussi01> affan: do you have 3rd party repos enabled?
[19:33] <rasmus> It's been running smothly with edgy before
[19:33] <ScorpKing> rasmus: that's the problem. can you take it out while you install?
[19:33] <ScorpKing> rasmus: i have the 5500 and it does the same to me
[19:33] <niall> affan: do apt-get install -f
[19:34] <rasmus> ScorpKing: ehh, then I can't see a thing??
[19:34] <niall> affan: then it'll probably tell you to do something else, do that too ;]
[19:34] <niall> affan: that sorted it for me
[19:34] <rasmus> ScorpKing: that's wierd.. I havent been experiencing any problems with the other distro's?
[19:34] <ScorpKing> rasmus: no onboard graphics?
[19:34] <rasmus> ScorpKing: nope
[19:34] <affan> jussi01: i dont
[19:34] <rasmus> it's on a P4C800-E
[19:34] <ScorpKing> ugh.. :(
[19:34] <rasmus> ScorpKing: not good?
[19:35] <wesley_> does someone know what gOS is?
[19:35] <rasmus> jussi01: how do i md5sum in windows?
[19:35] <rasmus> duh
[19:35] <rasmus> jussi01: sorry
[19:35] <jussi01> rasmus: lol
[19:35] <rasmus> jussi01: didn't see the other html haha
[19:35] <ScorpKing> rasmus: the only thing i can think of is to install it with the alternate cd and the log into tty1 after the install and disable or fix it from there
[19:35] <affan> jussi01: i dont have any third party entry checked except the CD-ROM line. Do i need to enable anything there?
[19:36] <rasmus> ScorpKing: where do i get the alternate cd??
[19:36] <niall> affan: do this 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[19:36] <ScorpKing> rasmus: i'll get you the link. one sec..
[19:36] <jussi01> affan: no. see nials comment
[19:37] <rasmus> ScorpKing: Thanks :D
[19:37] <sigma_1234> rasmus: the mirror should have it
[19:37] <niall> affan: then follow up with this: 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[19:37] <niall> if it asks you a question, answer i
[19:38] <ScorpKing> rasmus: here is one mirror - http://mirror.pop-sc.rnp.br/mirror/ubuntu/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso
[19:38] <rasmus> ScorpKing: I have the edgy CD, is it dumb to install that, and then update to gutsy from edgy??
[19:38] <jussi01> rasmus: I dont recomend it
[19:38] <base> heya guys i got one question related to kde4: how do i enable that flashing effect if somebody sends me a message via kopete and the messenger window is minimized?
[19:38] <Dekkard> is there an irc app for kde4 ?
[19:39] <affan> thanks niall, jussi01.... i think i should learn apt-get instead of using the GUI....
[19:39] <rasmus> jussi01: ok
[19:39] <niall> you'll probably want to reboot or something, if you've updated from a new install there should be a kernel update
[19:39] <ScorpKing> rasmus: you might end up with the same problem. i have an idea
[19:39] <rasmus> ScorpKing: thanks..
[19:39] <rasmus> ScorpKing: ok
[19:40] <ScorpKing> rasmus: when you boot from the livecd press <F6> and take you the words "quiet splash" and then boot it
[19:40] <ubuntu> hello
[19:41] <rasmus> ScorpKing: ok, ill try 2 sec
[19:41] <ScorpKing> rasmus: that should get you to a shell on tty1. from there you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace nvidia with nv. it should work then
[19:41] <ubuntu> what type of antivirus program works well with ubuntu?
[19:41] <ScorpKing> !virus
[19:41] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[19:42] <ubuntu> thanks mate
[19:42] <ForgeAus> yeah I was reading about one called Winux
[19:42] <ForgeAus> Dekkard konversation????
[19:42] <rasmus> ScorpKing: THANK YOU! Now I can see what the installer is loading and dooing :)
[19:43] <ScorpKing> rasmus: you're welcome :D
[19:43] <rasmus> ScorpKing: nv is a nonrestricted driver right??
[19:43] <ForgeAus> kopete also does IRC but thats a bit strange
[19:43] <ubuntu> I have a problem on my laptop I have installed windows xp and open suse I want to wipe it and only use ubuntu
[19:43] <ubuntu> I am a linux beginer
[19:44] <ScorpKing> rasmus: yes
[19:44] <niall> just install it again and choose use whole drive or whatever it is
[19:44] <niall> that'll sort it ;]
[19:44] <rasmus> ScorpKing: I don't see why the installer isn't without the splash and quiet boot??.. Or is it too make it less confusing for 'normal' people?
[19:44] <affan> ubuntu: do u want to keep windows?
[19:44] <ScorpKing> rasmus: for new people. ;)
[19:44] <ubuntu> will that wipe everything?
[19:44] <niall> yeah
[19:45] <niall> you might want to keep windows, if you're a beginner
[19:45] <genii> ubuntu: Just boot to the cdrom and click the Install icon. It will guide you. Since you don't want the other operating systems choose to use the entire hard drive
[19:45] <rasmus> ScorpKing: well said haha.. I've always thought of it as beeing kindda cool - even though i only get 10% of what i posts hehe
[19:45] <Dekkard> ForgeAus,  is that a qt4 version?
[19:45] <rasmus> it
[19:45] <rasmus> *
[19:45] <sigma_1234> !info java-common
[19:45] <ubotu> java-common: Base of all Java packages. In component main, is optional. Version 0.26ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 75 kB, installed size 360 kB
[19:46] <rasmus> ScorpKing: It's hanging at 'Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd' ?
[19:46] <affan> hi, i was doing a apt-get upgrade and seems like there is a conflict in the following file: /etc/qt3/qt_plugins_3.3rc. Should I keep my version or over-write with the new one? thanks!
[19:46] <pp> hi
[19:46] <affan> hi pp
[19:46] <pp> spanish ?
[19:46] <rasmus> ScorpKing: I have a Canon printer attached, but it's turned off - but stille connected
[19:46] <ScorpKing> rasmus: it might take a while. press <ctrl>+<alt>+<f1> to get to tty1
[19:46] <rasmus> ok
[19:47] <ScorpKing> rasmus: if it's off it should be fine
[19:47] <pp> my english is bad
[19:47] <rasmus> ScorpKing: cant get to tty1
[19:47] <pp> but write
[19:47] <rasmus> ScorpKing: It's trying to start KDM
[19:47] <pp> I'm problem with Kopete
[19:47] <jussi01> pp: what is your native language?
[19:47] <ScorpKing> rasmus: keep trying. it will switch back to tty7 when it starts kdm
[19:48] <pp> Spanish
[19:48] <niall> !es | pp
[19:48] <jussi01> !es | pp
[19:48] <Ellement> help plz - just installed kubuntu, plugged ethernet cable in and internet speed is very slow. my lappy which i'm on now which is wirless is way faster. any ideas?
[19:48] <rasmus> ScorpKing: ok, so I just keep pressing ctrl+alt+f1 :)
[19:48] <niall> :<
[19:48] <jussi01> !es | pp
[19:48] <ubotu> pp: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:48] <pp> yes
[19:48] <ScorpKing> rasmus: and then enter. ;)
[19:48] <pp> !es
[19:48] <pp> spanish mexico
[19:48] <rasmus> ScorpKing: enter??
[19:48] <ScorpKing> rasmus: <RETURN>
[19:49] <jussi01> pp: they speak spanish there and can help you in spanish :)
[19:49] <rasmus> ScorpKing: yes yes, but why?? Doesn't it normally go directly to tty1 when pressing ctrl+alt+f1 ??
[19:49] <nightrow> hi, i tried to use the livecd of kubuntu with kde but it failed to boot properly, because xorg didn't find any screen (i have a nividia 8800gt). Any idea of what i need to do ?
[19:49] <ScorpKing> rasmus: it goes there but you'll still see all the startup messeges until you press enter
[19:49] <pp> ok
[19:50] <rasmus> nightrow: Maybe you should catch on to this conversation - I might have the same problem.. :(
[19:50] <pp> tengo un problema
[19:50] <rasmus> ScorpKing: ok
[19:50] <pp> con kopete
[19:50] <jussi01> pp: not here
[19:50] <jpatrick> !es | pp
[19:50] <ubotu> pp: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:50] <jussi01> pp: type : /join #kubuntu-es
[19:50] <jpatrick> jussi01: worst bit is he's already there
[19:51] <pp> now install updates
[19:51] <pp> wait fixing problem with kopete
[19:51] <pp> thanks
[19:51] <ScorpKing> rasmus: you in?
[19:51] <rasmus> ScorpKing: nope, nothing happends :(
[19:52] <ScorpKing> rasmus: that's weird
[19:52] <rasmus> yup
[19:52] <ScorpKing> rasmus: i did it this morning again on my laptop
[19:52] <nightrow> ScorpKing : this same CD worked fine for me in an emulator on windows :/
[19:52] <rasmus> Hmm
[19:53] <rasmus> ScorpKing: I can't get any light in NUMLOCK, so I guess my PC has frozen totally
[19:53] <ScorpKing> rasmus: could be. try again ;)
[19:53] <ScorpKing> reboot that is
[19:54] <rasmus> ScorpKing: yes, I've disconnected my printer as well
[19:54] <ScorpKing> good
[19:54] <rasmus> wait
[19:54]  * ScorpKing waits..
[19:54] <rasmus> haha, now I CAN get light in NUMLOCK??
[19:54] <rasmus> thats wierd...?
[19:54] <rasmus> but still no tty1
[19:55] <rasmus> ScorpKing: well, I'm rebooting..
[19:55] <ScorpKing> rasmus: it the alternate cd for you then
[19:55] <ScorpKing> ok
[19:55] <rasmus> ScorpKing: yea, in 1,2 hours... the mirror is really slow :(
[19:57]  * ScorpKing pass rasmus some coffee while he waits for the download..
[19:58] <rasmus> ScorpKing: Haha, I'll need a lot of that! I have to study for my project exam this monday as well.. But I can't really get anywhere with a nonworking desktop :(
[19:58] <rasmus> ScorpKing: Hmm, I managed to get the ubuntu@ubuntu in tty1, but it frose when trying to start KDM and initialising the Unix Printing system cupsd again :(
[19:59] <indystorm> so how do I login as root on kubuntu?
[19:59] <ScorpKing> rasmus: just wait until kdm stops trying and then go back to tty1
[19:59] <jussi01> !root | indystorm
[19:59] <ubotu> indystorm: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[20:00] <rasmus> ScorpKing: Hmm, how long'll that be??
[20:00] <ScorpKing> one or two minutes mb
[20:00] <sui> hi
[20:00] <rasmus> ok
[20:01] <rasmus> ScorpKing: maybe this is a similar problem ?
[20:01] <rasmus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/140908
[20:01] <TeeAhr1> teeahr1
[20:01] <TeeAhr1> oops
[20:01] <TeeAhr1> disregard my buggy fingers
[20:03] <TheAlien> on this konversation irc how do I get the chanel list?
[20:03] <ScorpKing> rasmus: looks like the same thing to me
[20:03] <niall> TheAlien: F5 I think
[20:04] <Ellement> how can i get my belkin 54g usb adapter working, it wont even let me enable it
[20:04] <wad> Hi, folks. I haven't found where to set my screen resolution under Kubuntu. Help?
[20:04] <wad> Version 7.10
[20:04] <navlop> looking on setting up a server wanted to know if anyone still uses webmin
[20:04] <rasmus> ScorpKing: yea, but the workaround doesn't work for me?? :(
[20:04] <ScorpKing> wad: kcontrol
[20:04] <wad> Thanks!
[20:04] <parkin> !kdissert
[20:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdissert - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:05] <jpatrick> !info kdissert > parkin
[20:05] <navlop> !
[20:05] <rasmus> ScorpKing: hmm, still can't get into tty1
[20:05] <ScorpKing> rasmus: nope.. i don't think so.
[20:05] <sigma_> i just installed sun-java  jre6 and want to know how to check that my pc is using it and not the opensource java that is included with kubuntu?
[20:05] <ScorpKing> rasmus: then that will not work
[20:05] <navlop> !webmin
[20:05] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[20:06] <rasmus> ScorpKing: Arh, this seriously makes NO sense.. Now the keyboard has locked again?
[20:06] <ScorpKing> lol
[20:07] <mullog> hi guys
[20:07] <ScorpKing> rasmus: the alternate cd seems like the only way. than that solution will work once it's installed
[20:07] <mullog> is anybody speaking French ? :p
[20:08] <rasmus> ScorpKing: Okay, I guess i'll go take a run to get the frustration out then :S
[20:08] <navlop> pour quoi
[20:08] <rasmus> mullog: oui, un peu?
[20:08] <mullog> ah :p :)
[20:08] <rasmus> ScorpKing: But thanks anyway :D
[20:08] <navlop> Has anyone installed EBox succesfully
[20:08] <mullog> en fait, je galère un peu pour monter un disque dur externe USB partitionné en NTFS
[20:08] <ScorpKing> rasmus: you're welcome :)
[20:09] <rasmus> :)
[20:09] <rasmus> bye all :)
[20:10] <navlop> Has anyone installed EBox succesfully
[20:10] <mullog> English version : I'm having troubles to mount an external USB hard drive in NTFS
[20:10] <navlop> !ebox
[20:10] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[20:10] <ScorpKing> !ntfs
[20:10] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[20:11] <indystorm_> !root didn't work I'm trying to change things in KDE and cannot do it without root.
[20:11] <mullog> would anybody be so kind to explain me a bit how o ^^
[20:11] <Jeroi> when I try to make default open dvd software "smplayer %f"
[20:11] <ScorpKing> !kdesudo > indystorm_
[20:11] <jpatrick> !botabuse > navlop
[20:11] <Jeroi> smplayer says ecepting file but it is directory
[20:12] <Jeroi> what kind of command I need to open videodvd from cdrom louncher utility?
[20:12] <TheAlien> how can I put flash on konkeror can someone tell me?
[20:13] <ScorpKing> TheAlien: i've installed firefox with it's own flash and now it works in konq as well
[20:15] <TheAlien> wow a window just popped up telling me to install a flash plugin
[20:15] <TheAlien> its amazing
[20:16] <ScorpKing> haha
[20:16] <ramona> hi
[20:18] <romunov> i need a program to burn an iso file
[20:19] <romunov> i thought i had k3b (or something?)
[20:19] <Flare183> !k3b | romunov
[20:19] <ubotu> romunov: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[20:19] <romunov> thought so
[20:19] <romunov> thanks
[20:27] <Jeroi> hello can anyone help?
[20:28] <Jeroi> when starting "smplayer dvd://1" from bash it will lounch dvd ok
[20:28] <genii> Jeroi: Once you state your problem someone may try
[20:29] <Jeroi> but with kde3 cdrom open utility, I added new open program smplayer with opening with that command
[20:29] <Jeroi> but kiosk says: /media/cdrom0 is folder, exepting file
[20:30] <Jeroi> smplayer is frontend for mplayer
[20:33] <genii> Jeroi: Perhaps then put as the command from kde3 cdrom open utility:   bash smplayer dvd://1
[20:34] <Jeroi> hmm
[20:34] <Jeroi> I try
[20:35] <Jeroi> same X error
[20:35] <Jeroi> exepting file, but cdrom0 is folder
[20:38] <unclemike> ? whats the difference in the kubuntu alternate 7.10 and the desktop
[20:38] <SlimeyPe1e> alternate uses a text-based installer
[20:38] <anne_> Hello. I want a program (in this case Akregator) to be started automatically when I login. How to do this?
[20:38] <SlimeyPe1e> it requires less RAM to install, and is useful when the livecd doesn't work
[20:40] <unclemike> SlimeyPe1e: but there the same then..just as hevey after installed
[20:41] <seezer> anne_: KDE automatically starts everything in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[20:41] <unclemike> how good is kde 4 right now
 that much
[20:42] <seezer> anne_: so place a shell script there or just link akregator there. `ln -s /usr/bin/akregator ~/.kde/Autostart/` should do the trick. this could also be done via dolphin etc
[20:44] <SlimeyPe1e> unclemike: yes, though with the alternate CD I *think* you don't get X to begin with (I haven't used it in a while)
[20:45] <SlimeyPe1e> unclemike: kde4 is fun to try out but is not ready yet
[20:45] <stdin> alternate CD installs the same stuff as the desktop, only the server install CD differs
[20:45] <SlimeyPe1e> stdin: oh yes, I remember now.
[20:47] <romunov> SlimeyPe1e: what's wrong with kde 4.0?
[20:48] <gab_> ciao c'e qualche italiano?
[20:48] <SlimeyPe1e> romunov: it's buggy, very few apps are ported properly yet, it still can't autosize windows properly (the taskbar overlaps them), changing theme crashes it
[20:48] <SlimeyPe1e> !it
[20:48] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:48] <SlimeyPe1e> romunov: looks like it'll be very good once they've finished it though :)
[20:49] <anne_> seezer: Can you explain it more detailed (I don't wanna ask my husband again who would open a black konsole window and type something I never could repeat ...)?
[20:49] <genii> Jeroi: Googling on your smplayer issue shows there are many people who also cannot get smplayer to auto-play dvds. You may consider switching to kmplayer instead
[20:50] <Jeroi> you mean lounchin dvd from cdopening utility?
[20:50] <Jeroi> or real autoplay when loading dvd into drive?
[20:51] <Jeroi> "new media is there"
[20:51] <seezer> anne_: open dolphin (Home Folder); click view->Show Hidden Files; go to .kde/ and then Autostart/
[20:51] <Jeroi> "What do you want to do?"
[20:51] <seezer> anne_: tell me when you're there :)
[20:51] <anne_> seezer: ok
[20:51] <genii> Jeroi: kmplayer has autoplay option which pre-empts the "What do you want to do" menu from ever appearing
[20:52] <Jeroi> I dont want that
[20:52] <anne_> seezer: (using konqueror btw)
[20:52] <seezer> anne_: ok works the same way
[20:52] <Jeroi> I want my player to be that task list
[20:52] <sss> does any1 know how much disk space does KDE4 + dependencies take up? since kde4 is living along with 3.5 (for now), Im worried
[20:52] <Jeroi> sometimes I want to open dvd folder
[20:52] <Odd-rationale> anne_: I have akregator open on login by not closing it when I log out.
[20:52] <genii> Jeroi: You can turn off the autoplay feature in kmplayer also.
[20:53] <anne_> Odd-rationale: I set my session to start clean.
[20:53] <Jeroi> does it add itself to cdrom open utlitiyt?
[20:53] <Odd-rationale> anne_: Oh, too bad... ;)
[20:54] <seezer> anne_: you have a konqueror window at ~/.kde/Autostart open?
[20:54] <Odd-rationale> anne_: Just ln -s akregator to your ~/.kde/Autostart then.
[20:56] <eskander> ..
[20:56] <eskander> \quit
[20:56] <genii> Jeroi: Yes, kmplayer adds itself to the "Open with" context menu
[20:56] <seezer> anne_: then open another konqueror (or split view) at /usr/bin ; there drag 'akregtor' to the Autostart directory and choose 'link here'
[20:57] <genii> Sorry for lag, at work and they require me on and off
[21:00] <smeril> how can i install java?
[21:00] <Odd-rationale> !java
[21:00] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[21:00] <smeril> thanks
[21:01] <Pollywog> some packages have as deps a lot of texlive packages for languages I do not use.... is there a way to avoid having to download them to install the packages?
[21:02] <Pollywog> I want to avoid a lot of cruft, in other words
[21:03] <smeril> is it wise to use limewire with linux?
[21:04] <anne_> seezer: Ok, it worked. Is there no easier way? I (as a user) never wanted to see things like /usr/bin folders ...
[21:05] <affan> hi all, i installed flashplugin-nonfree for firefox but it doesnt show up in the browser when i do about:plugins... do you have any ideas? thanks!
[21:05] <Odd-rationale> !flash | affan
[21:05] <seezer> anne_: it is. just remember "ln -s `which akregator` ~/.kde/Autostart/" :)
[21:05] <ubotu> affan: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[21:05] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[21:06] <Odd-rationale> anne_: Or just save your sessions when you logout. :)
[21:07] <smeril> why does kopeate crash all the time error code 11
[21:07] <Chousuke> it has a bug
[21:07] <smeril> how can i fix it?
[21:08] <Chousuke> you might need a debugger and some programming expertise.
[21:08] <Chousuke> alternatively, you might have something else triggering the bug.
[21:08] <affan> !Restricted
[21:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:10] <anne_> seezer: I really like working with kubuntu. But I don't ever want to type commands on a black text konsole or read source code. Don't misunderstand me, the whole open source thing is great. But I need it as simple as possible ...
[21:10] <jussi01> smeril: is it a new install?
[21:12] <Odd-rationale> affan: I also had trouble installing the flash plugin. What I did was purge the flashplugin-nonfree package and used a libflashplayer.so I found on the kubuntuforums.net
[21:12] <seezer> anne_: that's why i explained you the konqueror-way. but thats how it is for the moment.. have no better idea, sorry.
[21:13] <smeril> nothing works to install I am not happy I tried with a msn limewire etc
[21:13] <jussi01> how do you tell if a file is a symlink from the command line?
[21:14] <Odd-rationale> jussi01: ln -s is symlink
[21:14] <seezer> jussi01: ls -l filename
[21:14] <smeril> this is also my first use since I installed ubuntu from cd when i was installing it asked me to update but my ethernet cable wasnt plugged in
[21:14] <jussi01> seezer: thanks, thats what im looking for :)
[21:15] <seezer> jussi01: notice the "l" at the beginning
[21:16] <jussi01> seezer: got it figured, just got to remember how to update an alternative - I want qmake to point to qmake-qt4 ;)
[21:16] <seezer> sudo update-alternatives --help
[21:16] <seezer> :)
[21:16]  * jussi01 hug seezer 
[21:18] <seezer> better gimme something against my cold :)
[21:18] <affan> Odd-rationale: thanks for your help. I just downloaded the tar.gz from adobe's website and ran the install script as root
[21:18] <Odd-rationale> affan: Let me know if it works.
[21:19] <affan> Odd-rationale: that did it for me.... but i will purge the flashplugin-nonfree
[21:19] <affan> Odd-rationale: yes it worked for me
[21:19] <affan> the best way to see is enter "about:plugins" in the firefox address bar
[21:20] <affan> Hello All: every time i start my computer i have to enter the password in Kwallet to be able to connect to the wireless router.... is there a way i can have it save the password like WinXP?
[21:21] <jussi01> seezer: feel like giving me a bit more of a clue?? that help file doesnt read well (or more likely, i dont read it well)
[21:22] <seezer> jussi01: `sudo update-alternatives --list qmake` shows your available alternatives
[21:22] <seezer> --display is even more detailed
[21:23] <seezer> --config qmake would give you the possibility to change them
[21:24] <jussi01> seezer: thanks a lot :)
[21:25] <seezer> but i guess you will not only want to change qmake but also designer, assistant, uic, moc, linguist, lupdate, lrelease
[21:27] <jussi01> seezer: no. I plan to change it back as soon as this build is done ;)
[21:27] <seezer> feel free ;)
[21:36] <kreib> how do you hold back one of all the packages apt-get wants to upgrade when doing apt-get update?
[21:38] <smeril> I am looking for video support
[21:38] <smeril> for youtube google video avi mpeg etc
[21:40] <sthlm_08> any suggestions?
[21:43] <Flare183> Is there a flash player for kde?
[21:44] <emilsedgh> Flare183: nspluginviewer works, also kmplayer has flash support i think.Gnash has a KDE client named Knash too
[21:44] <Flare183> alright thanks
[21:47] <sthlm_08> dont use nspluginviewer
[21:48] <sigma_> how do I embed adobe acrobat reader into konqueror? so that it opens embedded pdf files on websites and not kpdf
[21:49] <sigma_> sthlm_08: why shouldnt we use that package?
[21:49] <sthlm_08> http://groups.google.se/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/e61bf3c63a510889
[21:49] <sthlm_08> crash warning
[21:50] <sthlm_08> kopeate also crash for me
[21:50] <sigma_> sthlm_08: do you know how i can embed acrobat reader into konqueror otherwise?
[21:52] <olddude67> sigma cant you add it like an add on?
[21:53] <sigma_> olddude67: what do you mean?
[21:53] <olddude67> open up browser, go to tools and go to addons
[21:54] <blind_guardian> hi all
[21:54] <sco50000> !compiz-fusion
[21:54] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:54] <blind_guardian> thanks kubuntu
[21:54] <sigma_> olddude67: i dont have the "addons" section, how do i get it?
[21:55] <olddude67> sigma, i thought i seen it in there but im not sure.
[21:55] <olddude67> ah hold on that was for firefoz
[21:55] <olddude67> firefox also
[21:56] <sigma_> olddude67: i think it works in firefox by default, but can't konq use firefox plugins?
[21:57] <fairman> Hi, i have problem with bluetooth. I have HP 6720s with Kubuntu 7.10. The bluetooth server does not recognize integrated bluetooth and the command "hcitool scan" does not recognized too. I suppose the bluetooth is maybe offline, is any way how to "wake up" bluetooth?
[22:00] <fairman> Ok, i am stupid :) it is /etc/init.d/bluetooth start
[22:04] <yeniklasorr> I cannot get start my tv tuner card cause of my ati video card. It says "No  YUY2 overlay support from your video card"
[22:07] <wesley> when i try the text to speech in konqueror its says cant reach dbus
[22:07] <wesley> kde4
[22:10] <jussi01> wesley: #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support
[22:11] <smeril> är det någon som har en enkel installations guide för ubuntu?
[22:12] <sthlm_smalm> i am looking for a simpel installation guide for linux
[22:17] <DarthFrog> Hi folks.
[22:17] <DarthFrog> Where is Kmail in KDE4???
[22:21] <SSJ_GZ> DarthFrog: http://software-libre.rudd-o.com/KDE_4.0.0_emergency_FAQ#Is_KDEPIM_.28Kontact.2C_KMail_etc.29_available_for_KDE_4.0.0.3F
[22:22] <odla> does compiz in kubuntu work well?
[22:22] <Blaenk> hey how can I do compiz in kde, I did compiz -replace and I got the effects but no window borders
[22:22] <Tecumseh> it does work, however some people have had problems with it
[22:22] <Blaenk> me?
[22:23] <Tecumseh> I have it running without problems combined with emerald
[22:23] <Blaenk> no yes, I've had it work before...
[22:23] <Blaenk> what I did was made it not use metacity for window borders, within gconf-editor, but I no longer see that option there
[22:23] <odla> Tecumseh: ok ... i think the only distro i've used that doesn't have problems with compiz in kde has been mandriva
[22:23] <Tecumseh> Blaenk: install emerald en do "compiz --replace && emerald --replace"
[22:23] <Blaenk> oh, I need emerald, how would I start emerald
[22:23] <Blaenk> ohhh thanks
[22:23] <Blaenk> I appreciate it
[22:24] <Tecumseh> o and for some reason i have added another option to it to resolve a bug I found: "compiz --replace --ignore-desktop-hints && emerald --replace"
[22:24] <wesley> World Of Warcraft can you play that on linux with wine
[22:25] <Blaenk> Tecumseh: works now thanks
[22:26] <trond> !compiz
[22:26] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:26] <wesley> !bier
[22:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bier - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:34] <trond> !compiz
[22:34] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:34] <val0> if i install KDE4-core packages will my kde3 packages be automatically removed?
[22:35] <odla> val0: nope ... read the announcement
[22:36] <SlimeyPe1e> val0: kde4 will be installed alongside kde3 so that you can choose it at login
[22:37] <val0> i just read it and i am very new to linux so pardon the silly questions
[22:37] <odla> val0: if you're new to linux ... i'd recommend staying with kde3
[22:37] <val0> odla: any particular reasons for that?
[22:38] <SlimeyPe1e> val0: there are no silly questions, we're here to help :)
[22:38] <odla> val0: lots of reasons ... you can read about them on planet kde ... but i'd suffice it to say that kde4 is not quite ready for day to day use ... particularly for someone new ot linux
[22:39] <odla> val0: it may look really nice ... but so does kde3 :)
[22:39] <val0> SlimeyPele: thanks :D
[22:40] <DreadKnight> kde4 is not ready for public use to say so, it's something like vista :D
[22:40] <val0> odla: I was just reading up on it on kde.org and i didn't get the sense that it wasn't ready for everyday use, and thought that it was a logical update
[22:40] <DreadKnight> but i see a bright future for it, i use it even if it's unpolished/unstable
[22:40] <val0> DreadKnight: if it's something like Vista i want nothing to do with it
[22:41] <val0> i started using linux because of vista
[22:41] <DreadKnight> val0: well it's open source, and way better let's say
[22:41] <DreadKnight> val0: me 2 :)
[22:41] <SlimeyPe1e> val0: the KDE folks reckon it's ready, but so far pretty much the entire Linux world has disagreed with them ;)
[22:41] <odla> val0: i'd say it's more buggy than vista at the momeny
[22:42] <SlimeyPe1e> val0: wait for kde4.1, judging by kde3/3.1 it'll be much more mature and ready to use.
[22:42] <vbgunz> I have a serious internet connection issue. I have a broadband internet connection connected through a wired ethernet. my connection drops a lot and I always have to run "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" ... how could I address this??
[22:42] <wesley> !vista
[22:42] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org and !windows
[22:42] <val0> LOL
[22:42] <wesley> !windows
[22:42] <DreadKnight> val0: my same oppinion, wait for 4.1
[22:42] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[22:42] <val0> SlimeyPele: cool, thanks for the advice guys
[22:42] <DreadKnight> lol, the first launchpad bug :)) hehe
[22:43] <val0> first myself and then my g/f made the switch to linux
[22:43] <wesley> lol
[22:43] <DreadKnight> i converted mom... but she's on ubuntu
[22:43] <DreadKnight> dad reverted to xp...
[22:43] <DreadKnight> :|
[22:44] <DreadKnight> and it's like a painting... you just stare at it.. it takes ages to open a folder xD
[22:45] <val0> DreadKnight: i've been using m$ products most of my life and only recently (due to age i suspect) realized that i'd much rather spend time reading and learing about something than chase keygens/cracks/etc for the M$ system
[22:45] <DreadKnight> non geeks don't know anything about avoiding viruses and other infections.. and maintaining a windows OS
[22:45] <MaskedOne> So I'm trying to install PlaneShift on Kubuntu 7.10 and the linux client download comes in .bin file, wtf?
[22:46] <DreadKnight> val0: same here.. i didn't knew linux existed even before vista.. then i converted to open source software to make the change.. and switched to ubuntu :) it was worth it...
[22:46] <fairman> Please, how to install kernel 2.6.22-12 along 2.6.22-14?
[22:46] <DreadKnight> val0: i have a moral issue by using non  free applications...
[22:46]  * odla hopes DreadKnight doesn't have non-free hardware 
[22:46] <val0> DreadKnight: speaking of which, virus/malware was the straw that broke the camel's back and we moved to linux, virtumundo to be exact, a really nasty downloader that destroyed all of our machines
[22:46] <MaskedOne> Anyway to extract a .bin into something usable to install PlaneShift?
[22:47] <val0> DreadKnight: lol, i have the same issue, but it only realised itself with age
[22:47] <DreadKnight> val0: may i ask how old are you? :)
[22:47] <DreadKnight> val0: i'm going for 21 myself, using oss for about 2 years now i think ^^
[22:48] <DreadKnight> i've been living a lie.. happy that i've seen the light :D
[22:48] <MaskedOne> Must be the official switch to Linux Age, I'm 22 :D
[22:48] <DreadKnight> haha
[22:48] <val0> DreadKnight: I am 28, the lady is 25... my dad is a M$ support monkey making crazy $$$ doing it so i just followed him blindly
[22:49] <vbgunz> I have a serious internet connection issue. I have a broadband internet connection connected through a wired ethernet. my connection drops a lot and I always have to run "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" ... how could I address this??
[22:49] <val0> woah, you guys are young! i have lots of catching up to do
[22:49] <DreadKnight> val0: pff.. dads... it seems they provide by all means, no moral issues...
[22:49] <DreadKnight> val0: many happy years ahead :)
[22:50] <ardchoille> !ot
[22:50] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[22:50] <djdarkman> hello
[22:50] <djdarkman> (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing virtualbox-ose (--remove):
[22:50] <djdarkman>  files list file for package `virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.22-14-generic' is missing final newline
[22:50] <djdarkman> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:252: process_queue: Assertion `!queuelen' failed.
[22:50] <djdarkman> now what?
[22:50] <MaskedOne> I'm trying to get support but since no one is offering it I'm chatting :D
[22:50] <DreadKnight> ardchoille: don't be a party breaker :))
[22:50] <ardchoille> DreadKnight: Then please comply with our !guidelines :)
[22:50] <val0> DreadKnight: I certainly hope so... but speaking with him about it he has a good point about linux and that's lack of offical immidiate support/single vendor issue
[22:50] <djdarkman> I told apt to remove, something that has an error, why doesn`t it do what I told it?
[22:51] <DreadKnight> val0: true, but as more people use this, the knowledge spreads better = more support... something like that
[22:52] <MaskedOne> So anyone know how to extract .bin files into something usefull?
[22:52] <DreadKnight> MaskedOne: well, you could burn them, or
[22:52] <DreadKnight> MaskedOne: mounth them with acetoneISO
[22:52] <djdarkman> I mean this is imposible, apt complains about a package, that`s no problem, but it doesn`t let me remove it, then what can I do, format my harddis?
[22:53] <MaskedOne> you can burn a .bin like a .iso?
[22:53] <DreadKnight> MaskedOne: bin = disc image format
[22:53] <DreadKnight> djdarkman: sudo apt-get remove -f PACKAGE_NAME
[22:53] <MaskedOne> ah didn't know that, interesting thanks, I'll mount away :D
[22:54] <DreadKnight> djdarkman: sudo apt-get purge PAC_NAME
[22:54] <val0> DreadKnight: true, but due to so many different flavours and an absolutely astronomical number of programs that do the same thing it is very hard for proffesionals to rap their heads around them
[22:54] <val0> DreadKnight: m$ has one of each and that's all you get to use
[22:54] <djdarkman> djdarkman@Darknet2:~$ sudo apt-get remove -f virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[22:54] <djdarkman> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[22:54] <MaskedOne> hmm take it AcetoneISO is not in the repos?
[22:54] <djdarkman> and then
[22:54] <djdarkman> djdarkman@Darknet2:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:54] <djdarkman> djdarkman@Darknet2:~$
[22:54] <DreadKnight> val0: it's up to you to make a change then, this is my theory and i stick to it
[22:55] <djdarkman> and after that same error
[22:55] <DreadKnight> MaskedOne: true, but i've used g-mount .. or some other one for kde...
[22:55] <DreadKnight> djdarkman: hmm... restart? :P
[22:55]  * djdarkman hates when programs start to think istead of the user, and not doing what they were asked for...
[22:56] <val0> DreadKnight: true enough, and I've made that step... I've been have a pretty steep learning curve tho, mostly due to my g/f's need for everything immediately
[22:56] <MaskedOne> g-mount it is :D thanks again
[22:56] <djdarkman> so this means that I have to format my harddrive like the windows users or is there a solution for this?
[22:57] <val0> DreadKnight: my advice to your guys, either gets a linux box or a g/f, since you won't have time for both :D
[22:57] <Odd-rationale> val0: I go with a linux box.
[22:57] <MaskedOne> I have a Wife and Linux :D
[22:57] <DreadKnight> val0: yeah... my ex wastes a lot of my energy (i like to consider it my "ex" so i can fool myself i'm making some progress getting my life back)
[22:57] <Odd-rationale> Linux is cheaper.
[22:57] <DreadKnight> :))
[22:57] <MaskedOne> Thats true
[22:57] <val0> LOL
[22:58] <val0> that's too funny, and who says geeks don't have a sense of humour
[22:58] <DreadKnight> IR GEEK
[22:58] <DreadKnight> xD
[22:58] <djdarkman> what does this mean in english "files list file for package `virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.22-14-generic' is missing final newline"?
[22:59] <MaskedOne> so Gmount only has an option to mount .iso's
[22:59] <MaskedOne> any ideas?
[22:59] <Odd-rationale> djdarkman: Have you tried asking in #vbox?
[22:59] <jussi01>  Hei everyone, got a small problem - both koffice and open office display incorrect characters when i use finnish specific letters such as ä and ö
[22:59] <jussi01> any ideas on a fix?
[22:59] <SlimeyPe1e> djdarkman: it means that the files list for the package is missing a newline (similar to carriage-return) character at the end
[22:59] <MaskedOne> look up some new fonts?
[23:00] <djdarkman> Odd-rationale: no because it`s an apt issue, I think I had filelsystem corruption, and now I don`t want that package
[23:00] <DreadKnight> !.bin
[23:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:00] <jussi01> MaskedOne: the font im using should have these letters... it does everywhere else ive seen it ( arial)
[23:00] <DreadKnight> !mount
[23:00] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[23:00] <DreadKnight> mrr
[23:00] <dogsoldier> i use kubuntu and had to do a reinstall. when i go to youtube or myspace video i get a gray box and cant see the videos. what do i need to do please?
[23:00] <djdarkman> SlimeyPe1e: yes but how can I remove the packe so that apt could leave me in peace?
[23:01] <val0> MaskedOne: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/you-can-now-mount-bincue-files-daemon-tools-equivalent-90498/
[23:01] <DreadKnight> dogsoldier: flash broken for konqueror
[23:01] <ardchoille> !flash | dogsoldier
[23:01] <ubotu> dogsoldier: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[23:01] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[23:01] <MaskedOne> yeah is a .bin file and gmount only does iso i guess
[23:01] <SlimeyPe1e> djdarkman: does dpkg --remove work?
[23:02] <dogsoldier> k ty
[23:02] <DreadKnight> MaskedOne: heh xD get acetoneiso... i guess it's a deb on getdeb.net not sure
[23:03] <djdarkman> sam error
[23:03] <djdarkman> same errorr
[23:03] <djdarkman> is there a way to manualy remove it from the database?
[23:03] <SlimeyPe1e> djdarkman: try --force-remove
[23:03] <Fahuadai> Hello. I'm having some hard drive problems. My IDE disk concerned is not being recognised by BIOS or ubuntu. I've checked the cables and the jumpers. any ideas?
[23:03] <val0> MaskedOne: why don't you just convert your .bin to an .iso and mount that?
[23:04] <blizzzek> gn8
[23:04] <MaskedOne> lol didn't have to mount it at all
[23:04] <MaskedOne> just did a chmod 755
[23:04] <CeLt1c420> hey guys!!!
[23:06] <MaskedOne> then ./file
[23:06] <CeLt1c420> could I trouble one of you ever slightly? Are there any colleges anyone knows that I can get a email at ?
[23:06] <djdarkman> SlimeyPe1e: how?
[23:06] <CeLt1c420> without being a student?
[23:06] <SlimeyPe1e> djdarkman: hrm, scratch that, sorry. I thought that was an option but the manpage doesn't mention it.
[23:08] <sevon> ciao
[23:08] <SlimeyPe1e> djdarkman: I'm not sure what the solution is, sorry.
[23:08] <SlimeyPe1e> dpkg can be flippin' annoying when it breaks
[23:08] <Fahuadai> I'm having some hard drive problems. My IDE disk concerned is not being recognised by BIOS or ubuntu. I've checked the cables and the jumpers. any other things i could try to test?
[23:08] <wad> Is there any way to use kopete with a proxy?
[23:09] <djdarkman> yes SlimeyPe1e , don`t know how could they not taught of this issue
[23:09] <SlimeyPe1e> Fahuadai: is it on its own cable, ie not sharing with another drive?
[23:09] <martin---> hi all
[23:10] <martin---> I have a very strange problem with which I hope someone can help
[23:10] <Fahuadai> it's sharing, the disk is the slave position with slave jumper. the master disk is working fine
[23:10] <djdarkman> can someone tell me where does this ultra-smart dpkg keeps it`s file lists?
[23:11] <DreadKnight> martin---: just tell us xD
[23:11] <SlimeyPe1e> Fahuadai: try disconnecting the other drive. Sounds silly I know but I've had drives appear to drown each other out before.
[23:12]  * djdarkman thinks that it`s very stupid for 21th century programs to look for final newlines like old 30+ year old compilers
[23:13] <Fahuadai> and putting the unworking drive jumpered and positioned to master?  (i'm currently on the machine and have my / partitions on a new sata)
[23:13] <SlimeyPe1e> Fahuadai: yeah
[23:13] <SlimeyPe1e> I can't guarantee that this is the problem, but it'll at least rule out any interference by the other drive
[23:14] <val0> Fahuadai: You have master/slave HDs on IDE1 and CD-Rom drive on IDE2?
[23:14] <SlimeyPe1e> otherwise, you may just have a duff disk
[23:14] <Fahuadai> Yes val0.
[23:14] <Fahuadai> and booting from a sata
[23:14] <val0> Fahuadai: booting from sata HD?
[23:14] <Fahuadai> this problematic disk is my old /.  (brought some new hardware)
[23:15] <kamanyero> HELLO EVERY ONE, i upgraded to gutsy gibbon, but compiz does show only ONE desk insted of a full cube, how do i fixit_
[23:15] <kenneth08> Hello! I want to try out Kubuntu with KDE 4.0 on my laptop but Im not sure whats the best way to do so. Is it better to install the "normal" Kubuntu with KDE 3.5 and then add the KDE 4.0 repository or install it from the Kubuntu KDE 4.0 Live-CD if that's possible?
[23:15] <Odd-rationale> kamanyero: Do you have ccsm installed?
[23:15] <val0> Fahuadai: your set up is IDE1 is HD master and HD slave and IDE 2 is a CD-Rom master?
[23:15] <kamanyero> it does not say that
[23:15] <Odd-rationale> kenneth08: The first option is better.
[23:16] <val0> Fahuadai: so you have total of 3 HDs?
[23:16] <kenneth08> Odd-rationale: ok, thank you very much!
[23:16] <kamanyero> it says advanced desktop effects settings, but appears compiz manager
[23:16] <Fahuadai> yes, config'd like so:  sda1 = / and boot.  hda on ide1 is master and working. hdb is faulty disk slave on ide1.  two cd drives working and jumpered fine on ide2
[23:16] <martin--> I need some help with my wireless
[23:17] <martin--> Somehow networkmanager does get through the IP activation stage
[23:17] <Odd-rationale> kamanyero: In order to configure your desktop effects, you need ccsm (compizconfig-settings-manager)
[23:17] <martin--> It stays on with this message: Activation stage: IP configuration started
[23:17] <val0> Fahuadai: try disconnecting the CD-Rom drives and reboot
[23:17] <val0> Fahuadai: if that doesn't work do the HD swap thing
[23:18] <martin--> If i look in the syslog i see DHCP exists without getting an IP adress
[23:18] <Fahuadai> Right.
[23:18] <Fahuadai> I repeat that the BIOS is not seeing the drive either
[23:18] <martin--> however, when doing a dhclient3 eth1 reuest by hand I do get an IP adress and the wireless works
[23:19] <val0> Fahuadai: guys correct me if i am wrong, but if your bios doesn't see it the chances are really slim that the os will
[23:19] <val0> Fahuadai: get the BIOS to see it first
[23:19] <alain> slt à tous
[23:19] <kamanyero> Odd-rationale, it appears the same
[23:19] <Fahuadai> that's what i'm fearing.
[23:19] <kamanyero> both commans appear the window of compiz manager
[23:20] <kamanyero> cube is selectend and turn cube also is selected, and ring switcher, etc
[23:20] <Odd-rationale> kamanyero: Open ccsm. and go to general options (it should be near the top.
[23:20] <kamanyero> ccsm is open,
[23:21] <kamanyero> and the cube checkbox is activated
[23:21] <Odd-rationale> kamanyero: are you in "general options"
[23:21] <kamanyero> but it does not apperr a  cube,  appears a single  sheet
[23:21] <martin--> this problem seems to have merged when an update of a package I candellatsni saw rebmemer t'
[23:21] <val0> Fahuadai: another issue i had with an HD was that BIOS didn't see it because once the machine crashed on my the flag was set on the HD that prevented it from being used untill a scandisk was ran
[23:21] <martin--> any ideas?
[23:22] <JellySandPaper> I am now registered
[23:22] <Odd-rationale> kamanyero: Go to the "General Options" settings then to the desktop tab. From there you should be able to configure the number of desktops
[23:23] <Fahuadai> the problem orginally came about as i moved the disk from the master of one machine to the slave of another and like a fool i forgot the jumper at first so BIOS incorrectly displayed as single drive. i shut down, corrected my mistake but now the drive is not seen at all.
[23:24] <crackhead_25_> how do i tell cdrecord to access a second cdrom? everytime i do cdrecord -format /dev/hdc.. (supposedly to access the second cdrom).. it seems to still access the first cdrom drive i have..
[23:25] <val0> Fahuadai: hmmm, well, like i said remove the CDrom from IDE 2 and reboot, see if that works, if that doesn't swap the drives and let us know what the results were
[23:25] <Fahuadai1> logged on other machine.
[23:26] <kamanyero> im in general, but i dont find where to configure the number of desktops
[23:27] <JellySandPaper> —› (#ubuntu)<theroue> What's the state of Ubuntu gutsy's support of EFI during installation on MacBook/MacBook Pros?
[23:27] <DreadKnight> kamanyero: kde4?
[23:27] <JellySandPaper> —› (#ubuntu) PriceChild (n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild) has joined #ubuntu
[23:27] <JellySandPaper> —› (#ubuntu) unicum (n=unicum@x0541a.wh7.tu-dresden.de) has joined #ubuntu
[23:27] <JellySandPaper> —› (#ubuntu)<theroue> Does gutsy's GRUB work with EFI?
[23:27] <Odd-rationale> !ops
[23:27] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, jussi01 or ardchoille!
[23:27] <JellySandPaper> —› (#ubuntu)<theroue> Or should another bootloader be used?
[23:28] <kamanyero> where do i check  the version of KDE? i just have upgraded to gutsy a few minutes ago
[23:28] <crackhead_25_> what's the command to see all the cdrom's currently accessible via console??
[23:28] <DreadKnight> kamanyero: does it looks like vista or not? black bar ?
[23:28] <SlimeyPe1e> kamanyero: it's kde3.5
[23:29] <Odd-rationale> kamanyero: Were you able to the cube working?
[23:29] <kamanyero> the icon says advanced desktop effects settings,
[23:29] <kamanyero> and when i click it, appears compiz config settings manager
[23:30] <kamanyero> cube and rotating cube checkboxes are activated
[23:30] <Odd-rationale> kamanyero: Did you go to general options?
[23:30] <kamanyero> yes, i went there
[23:30] <DicksEverywhere> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[23:31] <Odd-rationale> kamanyero: Were you able to adjust the no. of desktops?
[23:31] <FaiDillinGer> hi there
[23:33] <crackhead_25_> can anyone help?? how do i see the two cd/dvd drives i have in my system so that i can use cdrecord on them??
[23:34] <kamanyero> Odd-rationale, the cssm has no option to change the number of desktops
[23:35] <crackhead_25_> how do i see the various cd and dvd drives i have in my system? what's the console command??
[23:35] <Odd-rationale> kamanyero: I'm quite sure that there is. Look in general options. It should be the seconf or third tab.
[23:36] <kamanyero> Odd-rationale, the desktop configuration lets me choose the numbero f desktops, but they dont make it appear a cube, is appears the single sheet, that rotates like the cube, and has refection
[23:36] <Odd-rationale> kamanyero: Set the Hor. to 4, the Ver. to 1 and the No of desktops to 1.
[23:38] <Odd-rationale> kamanyero: Does that work now?
[23:39] <JOHN-BR> algum brasileiro aqui?
[23:39] <kamanyero> sorry, i still havenot find wher to change the number of desktops
[23:39] <kamanyero> im checking it carefully one by one
[23:39] <JOHN-BR> não consigo colocar minha hp1020 para funcionar
[23:40] <JOHN-BR> how can i put my hplaserjet 1020 to work
[23:40] <PriceChild> !br | JOHN-BR
[23:40] <ubotu> JOHN-BR: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:42] <Odd-rationale> kamanyero: I wish I was there to help you. Maybe the ccsm screen looks different...
[23:45] <red> I've installed VMware and I have a spare virtual machine, I want to install etch but when I start the machine with the etch install disk in the drive I get a failure. I think I've got the CD settings right, shouldn't it be trying to read from the CD?
[23:46] <kamanyero> Odd-rationale, heey i found it
[23:46] <kamanyero> jejeejeje, i was doing somethin wrong sorry
[23:46] <val0> Fahuadai1: sorry i was AFK, did you manage to do what we advised?
[23:47] <kamanyero> Odd-rationale, sorry, the number of desktops does not make the cube appear
[23:49] <hdevalence> !adept-fix
[23:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-fix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:49] <hdevalence> how do I fix it after adept crashes?
[23:49] <hdevalence> !adept
[23:49] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[23:49] <NickPresta> !aptfix | hdevalence
[23:49] <ubotu> hdevalence: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[23:50] <hdevalence> i knew there was a factoid...
[23:51] <Fahuadai1> val0 the disk was found after making solo master. just put back in and bios detected it. just about to boot with both drives to see if OS detects
[23:53] <val0> Fahuadai1: ok cool
[23:58] <grayd2007> list
[23:58] <grayd2007> help