[00:01] infinity: Is there any way that can get given back for feisty/gutsy (I could get an SRU for it if needed I suppose)? [00:01] ScottK2: No can do. [00:01] OK. I'll do the SRU paperwork. [00:01] ScottK2: We don't change "release" pockets once a dist is frozen. You could do -proposed/-updates if you really want it. [00:01] Thanks again. [00:01] That's what I was thinking. [00:03] ScottK2: Good thing I picked libmail-box as my test case, all the others fail. ;) [00:05] ScottK2: Hrm. Kay, my fix is clearly incomplete... [00:05] ScottK2: [00:05] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11401592/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.libtest-base-perl_0.47-1_MANUALDEPWAIT.txt.gz [00:05] I'll have to look at that in a sec... [00:06] Argh. [00:07] Well that's something anyway. [00:07] ScottK2: Curious corner case, should be trivial to fix. [00:07] Glad to hear it. [00:07] (if provided && version_installed) { ver = version_installed }, ish. [00:07] Curious corner cases are what make this stuff interesting. [00:08] I'd wonder why it worked for one case and not another, but I don't want my head to explode this close to quittin' time. [00:08] It'll ruin my evening to be headless. [00:09] And the janitors wouldn't appreciate having to clean up the mess either. [00:09] Where "the janitors" == "my wife and I". [00:10] Which would, I suppose, reduce to just "my wife" if I'm nonfunctional. [00:10] And making her angry is double-plus ungood. [00:10] Ah, right. Even worse. [00:10] * ScottK2 imagined you hidden in the middle of a data center somewhere. [00:11] Nah, I'm in Canada. [00:11] i figured if you contributed to ubuntu you wouldn't be able to have a wife [00:11] snadge: No, no. That's spelled "life". [00:17] infinity: Where in Canada? [00:17] ScottK2: Calgary. [00:17] (the empty part) [00:17] slangasek: :P [00:17] slangasek: That doesn't narrow it down much. === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [00:17] infinity: Ah. I've been there. [00:17] ScottK2: no, but it provides the proper frame of reference ;) [00:18] I remember when vorlon used to be nice to me. Those were good times. [00:19] No good has come of this nick change. [00:19] infinity: that may have been when I was still living in Iowa and had no room to talk [00:19] :-) [00:19] now he's part of the oregon cabal [00:19] who are scarily cabalish [00:20] slangasek: Where in Iowa (my mother-in-law live in Iowa)? [00:20] elmo: yes, it's the true mark of a cabal that we're never actually seen in the same place at once except when we're at conferences [00:20] ScottK2: Davenport [00:20] I thought Iowa was that thing the scheduler did when my disks needed to spin up? [00:21] (like keithp pointing and expressing his amazement when we crossed paths at an event in town) [00:21] ScottK2: where's your m-i-l? [00:22] * infinity frowns at sbuild. [00:23] slangasek: Monticello. Brothers in law in Des Moines. [00:24] asac: pong [00:24] wasup? [00:24] huh, Monticello, I didn't think anyone lived there; I thought it was just an airport :) [00:25] slangasek: :) [00:25] Heh. Try trying to find a restaurant open on New Years day (managed, but it was tough). [00:25] (and by 'airport', I think I mean 'air strip') [00:26] airport-stip,haircare and tire-lube-express :) [00:26] imbrandon: no, flashplugin sru fix :) status? [00:27] asac: i'm advocating removal and let each browser do it, the fixes we could do would be way to invasive [00:27] do you still ahve the source packages lying around and could update the md5sums? [00:27] imbrandon: what do you mean? [00:27] asac: sure , at the expense of breaking every non firefox browser [00:27] he? [00:28] asac: new flash breaks any non firefox browser, old flash has a security flaw [00:28] fsvo "every non firefox browser" equal to "konqueror", I thought? [00:28] so its no win [00:28] slangasek: opera and webkit too [00:28] imbrandon: well ... does the current actually install? [00:28] which link does it use? last time i looked the url used by wget doesn't even has a version [00:28] asac: yes it installs and makes them segfault, major regression, e.g. no-go [00:28] (except 9) [00:29] yes, but now it doesn't install at all ... or does it? [00:29] no it doesnt, but i will not introduce a fix that breaks someone more, i'm advocating removal [00:29] if you wish to follow another patch i'll be happy to help [00:29] but i wont, i delt with it for weeks with no good awnser [00:30] imbrandon: so the problem why the sru has been cancelled wasn't a md5sum mismatch? [00:30] correct [00:30] it was because it causes konqueror and opera to segfault [00:31] opera? [00:31] yes only firefox , safari and IE support xembed [00:31] the rest segfault [00:32] and kubuntu shipps konqueror as a default browser, we cant intentionaly break it [00:33] asac: this was all covered in the -devel ML thread iirc [00:33] :) [01:33] I'm trying to compile a program and it can't find the strnstr function, is something missed? [01:37] edsiper: the fact that strnstr() is not a standard C function? [01:39] Standard C Library (libc, -lc) :/ [01:39] string.h [01:40] t.c:(.text+0x40): undefined reference to `strnstr' [01:43] % grep -c strnstr /usr/include/string.h [01:43] 0 [01:43] :/ === rzr is now known as rZr [01:50] edsiper: it's not a standard C function, and glibc doesn't implement it. [01:51] :/ , thanks [02:44] asac: do you know if there will there be a newer release of gnash before hardy freezes? [02:47] more importantly, why has gnash regressed on my system from gutsy to hardy and no longer able to play youtube videos? :) [02:51] heh === dmb is now known as dmb` [03:53] slangasek: Because youtube changed their stuff, I think :(. === dmb` is now known as dmb [04:00] keescook: http://wiki.gnashdev.org/wiki/index.php/Release_0_8_2 suggests they'd like to get 0.8.2 out before the end of January, so it seems the answer is "yes". [04:06] hey guys [04:06] wuddup [04:08] * Hobbsee waves [04:08] * RAOF shores [04:12] RAOF: those dirty, stinking apes [04:13] slangasek: Indeed. [04:18] heya folks [04:18] what's the status of the ATI open source drivers? [04:18] hi asac. you got a moment to touch base about wpasupplicant [04:21] srbaker: they exist and work, you are better asking upstream [04:21] better off, rather [04:21] Burgundavia: hey man. [04:21] Burgundavia: know where i can find docs on how to get them working on ubuntu? i have a dell with ati video that's particularly horrible to use with the fglrx bullshit [04:21] where is upstream? [04:21] the whole ati open source thing confuses the hell out fo me [04:22] upstream is radeonhd [04:22] which is Novell/Suse engineers [04:22] is there a website for that? [04:22] well, are you certain that you need radeonhd? it is only for the very newest of ATI drivers [04:22] cards, rather [04:23] Burgundavia: X1400 ? [04:23] yep, that is r500 [04:23] the x1400 was listed as supported by the open source effort in an article i read [04:23] awesome [04:23] phoronix has docs [04:23] thanks [04:23] i couldn't get any relevant hints until i punched radeonhd into google [04:24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_R520 [04:26] Burgundavia: any idea if the radeonhd thing will get into hardy? [04:28] if yes, as alpha only [04:28] not on by default [04:28] that's okay. as long as it'll be easy to get going [04:28] okay, i have to go [04:28] thanks [04:28] they don't even have 2d really nailed down [07:11] good morning [07:13] good morning, dholbach [07:13] heya somerville32 [07:14] c [07:14] ugh [07:17] TheMuso, It is ok. we understand. [07:17] wrong tab [07:19] somerville32: Not this time it wasn't. === realist_ is now known as realist [08:49] Good morning [08:49] keescook: i will ask gnash devs about their plans [08:50] pitti: morning! [08:51] morning pitti! [08:53] oh noes, it's pitti! [08:56] *yawn* [08:56] greetings everybody! [08:56] * Hobbsee force feeds MacSlow some coffee [08:57] * MacSlow reminds Hobbsee that coffee does not apply [08:57] only coke and flying horse... which might be considered disgusting for some in the morning :) [08:58] hm... "flying horse" is probably not known outside of Germany === Sp4rKy_ is now known as Sp4rKY [09:10] hey MacSlow, warp10, Hobbsee, asac! [09:10] calc: hm; building OO.o on artigas didn't help, but at least the giveback now made it build on powerpc [09:13] Morning pitti [09:14] * pitti hugs StevenK [09:31] yay, i get a greeting from pitti today! [09:31] * pitti hugs Hobbsee ecstatically [09:32] :D [09:32] * Hobbsee hugs pitti lots back! [09:32] pitti: it's ever so slightly annoying that apport complains about packages that fail to install or upgrade, can we turn that off, or can I turn apport off somehow? [09:33] Mithrandir: hm, not sure whether apt has a config option for that; mvo? [09:35] grrr .... [09:36] since one week i fix depencedcy breakage on the CD to have *one* testable CD before alpha4 .... now all deps are fine and the kernel modules are MIA ... [09:36] Mithrandir: you can set Dpkg::ApportFailureReport to false, then it will leave oyu alone [09:36] *sigh* [09:37] mvo: cheers. [09:37] ogra: d-i needs a rebuild against 2.6.24-4, right? [09:37] pitti, yup, indeed [09:37] i was suspecting that when i saw the linux upload :/ [09:39] pitti, seems colin already did that [09:47] any archive admin, did a booboo, need kblogger-kde4 removed please [09:51] nixternal: done [09:59] thanks pitti [10:40] asac: btw, is there anything being done about making SSL cert violation exceptions actually work in ff3? [10:41] asac: ATM I have to run ffox2 for such sites (only reason why I still have it installed) [10:41] pitti: any example? [10:41] oh, and missing flash support, of course [10:41] asac: https://mail.piware.de/ [10:41] pitti: flash support is avail ... on amd64 its broken because ia32-libs need libselinux iirc [10:42] asac: ah, I see; I'll fix that then (OTOH flash works fine in ffox2, so I wonder why it is a problem in ia32-lis) [10:42] pitti: for me your site works ... i add an exception on the error page [10:42] doesn't that work for you? [10:43] asac: if I click on "Or you could add an exception" I just get a yellow box with "You should not add ...., do it in the advanced encryption settings" [10:43] asac: but there I don't see anything where I could add an exception [10:43] pitti: which ffox version? [10:43] i have buttons there [10:43] Version: 3.0~b3~cvs20080101t1000+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 [10:43] 1) "Get me Out of here" 2) "Add Exception ..." [10:44] ok let me try to get that version up here :) [10:45] pitti: same version for xul? [10:45] (well s/3.0/1.9/) === mdz_ is now known as mdz [10:46] asac: http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/tmp/ffox-ssl-cert.png [10:46] asac: xulrunner-1.9 Version: 1.9~b3~cvs20080101t1000+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 [10:46] that's the same error I get on http://bugzilla.freedesktop.org using epiphany-browser [10:46] indeed its broken on that snapshot. i will update it then i guess [10:47] asac: share the crack of the day version ;-) [10:47] seb128: yes ... for epiphany this feature needs to be implemented [10:47] asac: ok; as long as this is not the final thing, I'm good :) [10:48] asac: too bad that I can't get a working cert for my server... but there are four virtual domains sharing one IP, so the server cna only have one SSL cert; and adding alternative names doesn't work with cacert.org [10:48] so I can only either have a working signature or working alternate names *sigh* [10:53] pitti: your server cannot be configured to use dedicated certs for virtual hosts? [10:53] asac: no, apache doesn't support that [10:53] asac: you first need to establish an SSL connection (IP-based) [10:53] right :) [10:53] and only afterwards apache can decide which domain you want, based on the hostname you requested [10:54] so, one IP -> one cert [10:56] get more ips :) [10:57] asac: IPv6 FTW! [10:57] yay ;) [10:58] pitti: Indeed [10:58] ITYM F::T::W:: [10:59] ? [10:59] :: is used in IPv6 address notation for "all the bits missed out" [10:59] ah, :0 [10:59] :) even [10:59] ::) [10:59] * pitti cleans his shift key [11:01] * Hobbsee mourns the loss of her special keys [11:11] heya === doko_ is now known as doko [11:34] pitti: Preferences->Advanced(Encryption)->View Certificates->Add Execption... [11:35] ah, in the Servers tab [11:35] not that easy to discover [11:35] no, took me a while to find it [11:36] ah, cool, that works [11:36] thanks [11:39] * soren lunches [11:46] * pitti pokes ia32-libs [11:47] * LongPointyStick pokes pitti [11:47] * ion_ peeks [11:50] * torkel cuts LongPointyStick in two with an axe. Two sticks does more harm than one :-) [11:52] * LongPointyStick becomes EXTRA pointy, and mutilates torkel [11:53] pitti: Might it make sense to split that a little? The package is becoming incredibly huge. [11:56] * torkel looks around to find the chainsaw... === asac_ is now known as asac [12:09] persia: well, ideally more source packages would build lib32foo* themselves [12:09] oh, wow [12:09] using lzma makes the deb shrink from 38.3 MB to 20.2 [12:10] pitti: With multilib, that's now not unreasonable. Perhaps a full migration away from ia32-libs as a release goal for next time? [12:10] AFAICS it should be ok to use lzma now (OO.o does it), right? or does that pose a problem for Soyyuz? [12:12] hm, current OO.o debs use bzip2 [12:12] so the changelog is confusing [12:12] LongPointyStick: what happened to your keys? [12:13] tjaalton: my ctrl, alt, win, etc keys all stop working sometimes. [12:13] fujitsu also has it, and he has the same video card [12:13] LongPointyStick: oh.. [12:14] intel? [12:14] yup [12:14] persia: hm, I was told that lzma is not supported yet :/ [12:14] * pitti reverts [12:15] Not yet? Hrm. All the tools support it. Any idea when it is coming? [12:15] persia: it's supported by dpkg and everything, but not in soyuz [12:15] LongPointyStick: ok, don't have any suggestions right now.. I've had no problems with evdev though (it'll be used when input-hotplug kicks in) [12:16] pitti: Right. I'm just hoping it's on the feature plan for 2.2 or 2.3 (if I remember my versions correctly). [12:18] yay flash on firefox-3.0 on amd64 === bigon` is now known as bigon [12:19] tjaalton: OK [12:19] asac: cool, purging firefox-2 then :) [12:20] oh, hm, seems that devhelp still needs it [12:20] seb128: devhelp resists against xulrunner, or does it just need to be done? [12:22] pitti: i uploaded new devhelp yesterday [12:23] (and hopefully didn't forget to flip depends from firefox to xulrunner-1.9 :)) [12:23] pitti: what asac said [12:24] pitti: btw the new f-spot uploaded today has no depends on beagle so it should be alright to move it to universe now [12:24] * pitti hugs seb128 [12:24] pitti: 0.17-1ubuntu2 [12:24] * seb128 hugs pitti back [12:24] I didn't do the update though ;-) [12:24] i installed firefox-3.0 manually for the first time and it says to restart it.. i maybe be confused with firefox 2 :) [12:25] Kmos: yes ... please file a bug [12:25] asac :) [12:27] pitti: ok ... apparently control.in struck us here ... it still depends on firefox... reuploading [12:27] asac: heh; I just wondered, I have that version === pedro__ is now known as pedro_ [12:33] persia: I forget the version number but it's on the feature plan for next week's LP release === \sh_away is now known as \sh [12:34] cjwatson: Excellent news. Thank you. [12:35] <\sh> tkamppeter, thx so much for your work on the printing stuff..took me only 1 minute to get my hp laserjet 1200 to run on hardy :) [12:38] \sh: like, plug it in, wait 10 seconds, done? :) [12:38] <\sh> pitti, yeah :) [12:38] How can waiting take an entire minute? :) [12:38] Er.. [12:38] How can waiting 10 seconds take an entire minute? :) [12:38] <\sh> soren, printing the testpage ;) [12:38] Ah. [12:39] well, 50 seconds for being so amazed and stunned how easy that was :-P [12:39] <\sh> heheh [12:39] <\sh> but really, on windows I would have had to install some drivers etc. [12:48] yes, but on windows, you have to install some drivers (finding the CD, dusting it, cleaning it, giving up and finding the driver on the net, downloading it, downloading it again for the right language, installing it, restarting your system) for a USB storage deviec [12:49] Keybuk, it gets really bad then if the storage device has your NIC driver on it *g* [12:49] <\sh> Keybuk, well, this driver problem sucks...I got this printer for free so I don't have any documentation or driver cd around... [12:52] Keybuk: Yeah. There's no doubt we've got the right approach to providing drivers. Now they just need to suck less. :-/ === _bigon is now known as bigon` === bigon` is now known as bigon [13:19] <\sh> pitti, regarding the maintainer field...I'm not sure if we need to change the maintainer field for rebuilding uploads, (-XbuildY) enlighten my horizon pleas :) [13:21] \sh: afaik it's only needed for -XubuntuY. And the tools don't complain about it for -XbuildY :) [13:21] <\sh> geser, k :) [13:24] * persia notes that -XbuildY uploads should not contain any changes beyond the changelog === bigon is now known as bigon` === bigon` is now known as bigon [13:29] \sh: no, it's not necessary for rebuilds (sorry, was at lunch) [13:31] * pitti demotes beagle [13:32] ... and wv along with it; there goes another HardyReducingDuplication point :) [13:36] * \sh needs to resolve bug #183382 somehow... [13:36] Launchpad bug 183382 in claws-mail "[MoM SYNC] claws-mail 3.2.0-2" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183382 [13:37] \sh: can do now if it's blocking you [13:37] <\sh> pitti, would be great...so I can go on with the plugin package for claws [13:37] \sh: can you please describe the ubuntu changes and why they can be dropped? there's no changelog and nothing else... [13:38] <\sh> pitti, source rebuild only was the change [13:38] oh, I see [13:38] <\sh> pitti, Version: 3.1.0-2build1 [13:38] <\sh> is the old one [13:38] so, no ubuntu changes actually [13:39] pitti: I'm going to do sync requests soon I've done those yesterday [13:40] \sh: done [13:40] <\sh> pitti, thx [13:40] seb128: so, you got one less :) [13:40] pitti: ok ;-) [13:43] infinity: after fixing the perl-modules problem on the buildds, building libpod-constants-perl still doesn't work: "Setting up libtest-simple-perl (0.62-1) ..." and then "After installing, the following source dependencies are still unsatisfied: libtest-simple-perl(inst =*=PROVIDED=*= ! >= wanted 0.18)" (see [13:43] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11406108/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.libpod-constants-perl_0.16-1_MANUALDEPWAIT.txt.gz) [13:43] could someone do the qca2 and libqca2-plugin-ossl backports, please? they're needed for KDE 4 [13:45] jpatrick: I'll do backports soon when I do syncs [13:45] seb128: thanks :) [13:47] jpatrick: you are welcome [13:47] Error forking '/usr/lib/openoffice/program//soffice': 'Failed to execute child process "/usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice" (Bad address)' [13:48] win. [13:49] Mithrandir: as a workaround, don't start 'oowriter', start 'ooffice' [13:49] indeed [13:50] * pitti wonders whether the new OO.o fixes that, but doesn't dare to upgrade and lose all the ooo-l10n stuff [13:53] ah, the heck with it; /me upgrades [13:53] * LongPointyStick watches the machine blow up [13:54] * Mithrandir waves the LongPointyStick around. [13:54] * LongPointyStick is waved. argh! [13:54] * LongPointyStick pokes Mithrandir with her other half [13:54] hah! You didn't think of that when you chose the nick, did you? [13:54] I'm holding the other half. You're not bendy, are you? [13:54] * ion_ unwaves LongPointyStick [13:54] * LongPointyStick is in 2 pieces [13:55] * Mithrandir pokes ion_ with the LongPointyStick [13:55] you're only holding the first half. [13:55] * LongPointyStick catches fire [13:55] * LongPointyStick burns Mithrandir [13:55] * Mithrandir continues waving the FlamingLongPointyStick about [13:55] * Mithrandir catches fire. [13:56] * LongPointyStick watches Mithrandir burn to a crisp [13:56] * LongPointyStick magically recombines, and pokes ion_ to pices [13:56] er, pieces [13:56] LongPointyStick has quite a Long nick [13:57] * pitti puts on his flamewar-proof asbesto pants and cleans up [13:57] pitti: she'll still burn your hands. [13:57] * LongPointyStick pierces the asbestos pants, with her pointy end [13:58] * LongPointyStick breaks one of pitti's knees in the process. oops! [13:58] dang! [13:58] * pitti limps back to his chair and continues python hacking then [13:58] * LongPointyStick breaks the chair [13:59] * LongPointyStick watches pitti fall to the floor [13:59] not your best mood today, eh? :) [13:59] pitti: no, i'm naturally sadistic. didn't you know? [13:59] Mithrandir: ah, OO.o du jour doesn't break like that any more \o/ [13:59] LongPointyStick: I can feel it in my knee [13:59] pitti: but it lacks translations? [14:00] Mithrandir: yes, since the l10n stuff got uninstalled [14:00] sladen: yes. this is true [14:00] ooo-l10n FTBFS FTW [14:00] pitti: it goes with my full nick, anyway. === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [14:04] pitti: hi! [14:05] hey jdstrand, how's it going? [14:06] pitti: I uploaded a new package (ufw) yesterday. Since it's new I know it needs to be manually added-- do I need to do anything else besides the upload? [14:06] pitti: I am well-- and you? [14:06] jdstrand: it's in the NEW queue and will be investigated; no further action needed from you for now [14:07] pitti: ok thanks [14:09] Mithrandir, StevenK: we are going to replace gnome-keyring-manager with seahorse in ubuntu-desktop; do you want the same for mobile? [14:09] does it do the same thing? [14:10] seahorse does gpg/ssh/the world in addition [14:10] but seahorse is maintaned, g-k-m not (seb128 knows more details) [14:11] gnome-keyring-manager is just a GUI to do keyring changes [14:11] I think we just want g-k-m for NM keys and such, so as long as seahorse supports that, we're happy with having that instead. [14:11] we care less about the UI than the daemon [14:12] Mithrandir: independently from that, NM's inability to change wpa passphrases is a major usability bug which should just get fixed [14:12] yes [14:13] Mithrandir: ok, so I'll change the seeds along, and we'll see how it goes? (I confirmed that seahorse can edit keyring keys) [14:13] * LongPointyStick doesn't particularly like how seahorse appears to like being able to show the ssh key passphrase on demand. [14:14] seb128: oh, seahorse needs a MIR, too, btw [14:15] I use libpam-ssh and keychain (with some glue between them) [14:15] pitti: right [14:15] pitti: we're just interested in the daemon, afaik, but seahorse should be fine, yes. [14:15] seb128: bug report is enough [14:15] pitti: ok, thanks [14:24] seb128: seahorse seeded, seeds merged [14:24] not rebuilding -meta yet, until seahorse gets promoted [14:25] pitti: cool [14:30] ./libseahorse/libseahorse.a - a-haa [14:34] * Hobbsee stabs this keyboard bug [14:35] What keyboard bug? [14:35] * Hobbsee loses metakeys, like shift, alt, ctrl, capslock, win, every once in a while, until restarting x [14:35] oo fun [14:36] and it's happened twice tonight [14:36] and it's really starting to annoy me. [14:37] Hobbsee: it has been hit by a LongPointyStick too many times? [14:37] torkel: i'm not the only one who gets it [14:37] but it's happening mor eoften than it used to [14:43] Hobbsee: are you using vmware? [14:43] cjwatson: nope [14:43] ok, it happens to me sometimes with vmware [14:43] cjwatson: this is standard hardy, upgraded from gutsy. real hw. [14:43] I have a button on my panel that does 'setxkbmap ' [14:43] that clears it for me; try that? [14:44] * Hobbsee wonders what the appropriate arguments would be, and checks the man page [14:44] er, is there any way i can close vi without using the colon/ [14:44] Hobbsee: ZZ [14:44] Hobbsee: It saves, though. [14:44] soren: ah, thanks [14:45] soren: no dice. esc classes as a special key, and has died too. [14:45] Hobbsee: paste ^[ into the terminal [14:45] it's esc [14:45] or use an on-screen keyboard? [14:46] * TheMuso points Hobbsee to onboard [14:46] open a website and copy paste it :) [14:46] (or from here) colon -> : [14:47] ;0 === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [14:48] 14:44 US keymap? [14:48] 14:44 setxkbmap -rules xorg -layout us [14:48] 14:45 the only other way I can think of is 'ZZ', but you may not be able to get that either. Copy-and-paste the colon from elsewhere. [14:48] Hobbsee: ^-- [14:49] cjwatson: ah, thanks. same problem though [14:50] (or close terminal window, let it get SIGHUPped, and recover the session later, assuming it's vim) [14:51] yeah [14:51] cjwatson: anyway, that doesn't clear it for me either. [14:51] ok, worth a try [14:53] indeed. thanks for the attempt ;0 [15:04] seb128: (argh autoconf argh) [15:05] pitti: (autotools are grrrrr) [15:06] * Mithrandir kicks LP in the proverbial SSL nuts. [15:08] is there some kind of alternative patching to -ck in the hardy kernel? === fabbione is now known as thegodfather [15:08] because -ck stopped after 2.6.22 [15:12] does the CFS have the same results? [15:12] third time lucky [15:15] well actually i thought that -ck also included some I/O work [15:15] * soren is confused [15:15] while CFS is only a scheduler [15:15] i'm not a developer, so i could very well be wrong [15:18] cjwatson: Could you clear something up for me, please? Our CD's can display two different things when they first start up. There's the old orange-only ubuntu logo with the reflection and "boot:" prompt below it, and there's the fancy coloured thing with the menu and such below it... Where do each of them come from? [15:20] a mix of debian-installer (text), debian-cd (images and menu items), and gfxboot-theme-ubuntu (fancy menu) [15:21] cjwatson: Hm. So if I'm using the gfxboot test thing you showed me once, what am I supposed to see? The fancy menu? [15:21] assuming gfxboot is working, you should see the fancy menu [15:21] it might fall back to the old-style one [15:22] (which is plain isolinux) [15:22] Hm.. I see. [15:41] cjwatson: The long description in gfxboot-theme-ubuntu claims that the logos and texts are not in that package.. So they're in debian-cd? [15:41] right, and debian-installer [15:42] my apologies for it being spread around; I was trying to fit it in around where stuff was already being maintained [15:42] * soren fails to see how that would land in the test thing.. [15:42] doko: I get errors install ing icedtea-java7-bin on hardy (lpia) [15:42] doko: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-icedtea/bin/java: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [15:42] doko: is this known, and is there a workaround? [15:42] cjwatson: As long as you're willing to answer the odd question about it from time to time.. :) [15:42] I constructed the test rather by hand :) [15:44] cjwatson: And you claim that when you run "make" in that directory, you see the fancy menu? [15:47] soren: yup [15:47] perhaps your qemu's screwed, or perhaps you commented GFXBOOT out in tree.safe/isolinux.cfg? [15:49] cjwatson: I did not. An to be sure, I just refetched the test suite and nuked the one I had lying around. [15:49] cjwatson: I only see the simple logo and the boot: prompt. [16:02] cjwatson: Something's not right. Booting the mini.iso (as found on archive.ubuntu.com) gives me the old logo and boot: prompt (just like your test thing), but the daily CD images gives me the fancy menu. Any ideas or should be look at it next week? [16:02] s/be/we/ [16:19] tkamppeter: can you please look into bug 183652 for hardy? [16:19] Launchpad bug 183652 in avahi "CUPS fails to start on boot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183652 [16:21] soren: I'm a bit lost and also busy with some other things, so next week would be good [16:21] cjwatson: Alright. [16:46]