[00:15] hello PreZLaptop [00:33] !best [00:33] Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there. [00:33] !no best is Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there. [00:33] I'll remember that LjL [00:33] !polls is best [00:33] But polls already means something else! [00:42] folks aubade has been invited here for tomorrow as I have aubade removed from -offtopic - so PriceChild / LjL if I am not here can you guys help with !guidelines etc? [00:43] too late to talk now night [00:46] eh [00:46] banned aubade? [00:46] seem sso [00:47] A while ago it seems. [00:48] hm? [00:49] i don't get it [00:50] When? [00:50] 29 dec [00:53] me either. [00:54] I assume he says its ok to remove. [00:54] i think so [02:09] Slart called the ops in #ubuntu (ubuntusucksubunt) [02:10] bye [02:10] * PriceChild grins [02:11] a comcast, how surprising [02:11] Comcast known for trolls? [02:12] known, i don't know. but i've had that impression for some time. [02:12] hmm, do you think it's a coincidence: [arcticpenguin] (n=jack@c-24-218-246-100.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) : john ? [02:12] exact same dns/ip [02:13] eh, coincidence? [02:13] how can it be a coincidence if it's on the same ip? [02:13] Well, I'm also on comcast and I get a new ip if I reboot the router [02:13] that's my point :p that user's in it seems. maybe they don't like ubuntu there #pclinuxos [02:13] ardchoille, but he's online *now* [02:14] Ah, ok [02:14] stdin: meh, he's probably spammed #pclinuxos as well [02:14] (which deserves it, it's an obnoxious channel) [02:15] LjL: comcast is just unbelievably huge :) [02:15] mebbe [02:15] if i were a #pclinuxos-support operator, though, i'd ban the whole of it [02:15] just like they ban AOL :) [02:15] it's the largest cable company in the US [02:16] you use comcast.... dont you? [02:16] * crdlb is on one of the other behemoths (verizon) [02:18] surprisingly though, they *are* talking about ubuntu in #plos [02:20] "PCLOS is just as stable as ubuntu. And give you more freedom to learn too. Not as controlled as Ubuntu" [02:20] mwahaha. ha. [02:21] yesss i control theee [02:32] OI [02:32] TESTE [02:32] usuario: #test for test..... [02:32] s [02:47] and it's test, with no extra letters afterwards. [02:48] perhaps he was trying to get a different message across. [11:27] there was a spammer in #ubuntu [11:27] oh ok nm [11:28] didnt notice ban [11:40] dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu (Xx1337HaXz0rXx (Trolling)) [11:43] kick forwarded jay-oh-en here so can have a word regarding his conduct - ping me if he arrives [11:44] !trolls [11:44] Sorry, I don't know anything about trolls - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [11:44] !search feed [11:44] Found: feedthetroll, launch-feedback, feeding the troll [11:44] !feedthetroll [11:44] The above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal. [11:44] !-feedthetroll [11:44] feedthetroll is feeding the troll - added by Pici on 2008-01-14 18:04:20 [13:08] * PriceChild roars [13:09] * Pici squeaks [13:12] * TheSheep talks [13:12] * jussi01 hides in the corner [13:12] * LongPointyStick peeks around [13:12] * jpatrick pokes LongPointyStick [13:13] Its all /me /me /me with you guys isn't it. [13:14] hehe [13:14] * no0tic debuilds [13:15] * jussi01 debuilds no0tic [13:17] err, no debian directory in my tree [13:18] build failed! [13:19] jussi01, try writing some debian/rules for me [13:19] no0tic: cdbs [13:19] * jpatrick ducks [13:20] cdbs is amazing! :) [13:21] Using it goes like this: "i need to write a rules file... done!" [13:22] hehe [13:24] from #-motu: 14:21 < \sh> ping...would you like to add a freenode cloak for me? :) [13:28] nalioth, cloak for \sh please. [13:28] I've added him to launchpad group. [13:29] Thanks jpatrick [13:29] PriceChild: no problem [14:04] Hey vira, how can I help? [14:06] Its that same address.. [14:07] aka rara? [14:11] who is daniels ? [14:11] jussi01, who? [14:12] PriceChild: he is on the access list for #kubuntu... [14:12] [16:09] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- 21 30 daniels 2y 31w 5d 10h 42m 10s [14:12] been a while since he used it... [14:12] jussi01, he's online, why not ask him? [14:13] PriceChild: I was curious, didnt want to bother anyone personally... [14:14] I assume one of the original founders of the channel [14:47] Going to test my Konversation changes to Quick Buttons.. [14:48] Ok, didnt work.. [14:49] Jack_Sparrow, i'm on konversation, perhaps i can be of some help [14:49] PriceChild: Trying to set my quick Buttons didnt work [06:47] [Notice] -ChanServ- An access level of [10] is required for [OP] on #ubuntu-ops [14:50] Hi LjL.. says I dont have level 10 byt PriceChildsaid he set it [14:50] Jack_Sparrow, that's because you don't have op access on here, you have voice access [14:50] LjL: I have the buttons showing and edited them [14:50] he lies [14:51] I was trying to test here... rather than in the channel [14:51] So should work in channel. [14:51] np [14:52] Jack_Sparrow: join ##ljl rather [14:52] That answers that question.. thanks [14:52] ok.. [15:35] LjL: how is your hardy upgade running ? [15:35] ikonia: it's not [15:36] LjL: any updates on Crysis and co.? [15:36] LjL: oh ? [15:36] before he starts telling me he's bought Freenode [15:36] jpatrick: not really, we've had to kick him a couple of times from here because he insisted joining after being repeatedly told not to idle [15:36] ikonia: must be thinking of someone else [15:36] which reminds me [15:37] LjL: ooh, sorry. I was sure it was you. [15:37] this is the other idiot, who decided to spam here [15:37] danroj? [15:37] yeppers [15:38] I think they sit in their channel taking turns to spam and molest others [15:38] i think that's hardly unlikely [15:40] the ascii genitalia group? [15:40] elkbuntu: uhm, yeah, if you're referring to the reason i banned danroj [15:45] Either the bantracker code is weird, or its not liking mysql. [15:45] Or both. [15:54] Pici: you tinkering with it? [15:59] LjL: Yeah, trying to get it to play nice with MySQL, perhaps add some features once thats done. [16:35] ok.. what is the command to de-op me... I got it to op ok [16:37] LjL: ** Darksiteevil [...] joined #kubuntu-es [16:41] Jack_Sparrow: /deop Jack_Sparrow [16:41] thanks [16:41] Jack_Sparrow: What irc client do you use? [16:41] Konversation... [16:41] ah... [16:41] /deop works fine [16:42] you can also use /cs op #channel -jack_sparrow if you don't want it to show that you deopped yourself [16:42] matter of choice [16:42] I have aliases setup for all that stuff, hardly remember what the real commands are anymore. [16:43] LjL: /msg chanserv deop ##ljl Jack_Sparrow didnt work [16:44] no [16:44] /ms chanserv op ##ljl -jack_sparrow [16:44] msg [16:44] Jack_Sparrow: fyi, you're opped in #ubuntu too. [17:07] Man... sqlite must be really forgiving. [17:09] Seveas Seveas look what Pici said [17:11] Or... MySQL is really contraining. [17:13] no amount of changing your statement will change the fact that you insulted his coding abilities! [17:13] heehehhehehehehehe [17:13] and he hates people who insult nothingness [17:13] I did no such thing. [17:22] LjL: please take a look at #k-es [17:23] jpatrick: what's the matter? he seems to be asking legitimate questions [17:23] LjL: Dark* guy is always on about fedora [17:24] it's a *kubuntu* support channel [17:24] well he was at least claiming it was kde4 information [17:53] Hello mr. I never join channels ;) [17:55] Pici: am having trouble with multimedia [18:41] LjL, ping^ ? [18:42] PriceChild: yeah little load problems [18:50] Is it escribe in french as well? [18:51] Think so. [18:52] He hasn't made it in... [18:52] ecrive [18:53] oh for crying out loud [18:54] * PriceChild should be more patient [19:11] PriceChild: Need to go back up and try and finish my roof repairs... be back as soon as I can or when I need a break. High winds today.. ugh.. [19:12] Jack_Sparrow, fun fun... [19:21] Jack_Sparrow: you have a roof? [19:24] luxury [19:25] * jussi01 also has a roof :) [19:28] jussi01: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FatHLHG2uGY [19:35] !sudo [19:35] sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. [19:35] sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. [19:36] !no sudo is sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. [19:36] I'll remember that PriceChild [19:37] grrr, I a so over this [19:37] jussi01, hmm? [19:38] PriceChild: random restarts of the xserver [19:38] ah [19:38] my lappy's stopped locking up so i'm happy [19:39] good for you :) [19:39] jussi01, jealous? [19:39] *me waves it infront of his face* [19:39] grrrrrrr [19:40] RRROOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR [19:40] meep? [19:40] vroom [19:41] hehe [19:41] [ ouch! ] [19:43] Pici, didn't know about that one, thanks. [19:43] PriceChild: np :) [19:43] People listen to ubotu even if you were to say the same thing. [19:44] indeed [19:44] weird like that... [19:44] People also listen to you when they've just seen you kick someone. [19:44] hehe [19:45] that's the old 'take me to your leader' reflex [19:49] ompaul, no aubade [19:49] Hi. [19:50] PriceChild, thanks [19:50] PriceChild, been a really long day - 6:45 up and at them - 6:30 home [19:50] * ompaul wants to apt-get install sleep [19:51] jpatrick: sigh... [19:51] lovely [19:51] Did we ever get clarification about aubade's ban? I didnt understand what it was from the tracker. [19:51] * jussi01 does apt-get install sleep on ompaul [19:52] PriceChild, I noted that one of the channels has this in its "greeting" -ChanServ- [#python] This channel is logged by IRSeek, and what you say may turn up on the web. << now the question is not which channel but what do you think of that [19:52] ;-) [19:52] What do I think of the warning? [19:54] I'm getting fed up with this tab completion... *fixes* [19:55] Me too princechild [19:55] hehe [19:57] * jussi01 is building a webkit browser :) [19:57] * ompaul is breaking things [19:58] * Pici is trying to get the bantracker to play nice with mysql [20:01] * ompaul is trying to get mysql to play nice [20:01] hmm what is common here? [20:01] jussi01, you doing it in pythong? [20:02] I am (obviously). [20:08] gotit -- I can sort the rest tomorrow lynx m108/crm [20:09] installing debian at 5:30 pm in the evening is not good for your stress level and travelling home and discovering you turned off the machine and ringing random numbers in the office to find someone who actually is there can and does lead to frustration [20:09] :) === Ubotwo` is now known as Ubotwo [20:46] adhey hey [21:06] LjL: "chicos ya visitaron mi pagina? www.fedoraennicaragua.blogspot.com regalenme un clic en los anuncios que estan en negro por favor" [21:06] hahaha [21:08] really, that should be enough... [21:09] jpatrick: yes [21:10] done [21:21] jussi01, I got an idea - it would be an enhancement - if you had a !editors type list, lets call it !helpers and that when one of them did /msg botzname annU you could announce in #ubuntu the comment [21:29] ompaul: ?? [21:30] !ot-ubuntustudio is #ubuntustudio is the Ubuntu Studio support channel and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [21:30] jussi01, you were saying you were playing with bot code there a few mins ago [21:30] ompaul: that was pici [21:30] jussi01, doh! [21:30] :D [21:30] Pici, ^^ :) [21:31] so someone want to add that factoid for me? [21:31] !ot-ubuntustudio is #ubuntustudio is the Ubuntu Studio support channel and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [21:31] I'll remember that, ompaul [21:31] and tell me why ubotu doesnt like me? [21:31] can you log in? [21:31] aka have you got a log in for the bot? [21:31] ompaul: no, Im not an editor. [21:31] yes [21:31] %login [21:32] OK [21:32] now try [21:32] !ot-ubuntustudio is #ubuntustudio is the Ubuntu Studio support channel and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [21:32] !offtopic-#ubuntustudio is #ubuntustudio is the official Ubuntu Studio support channel and #ubuntu-offtopic is for general chatter. Welcome! [21:32] I'll remember that, LjL [21:32] !forget ot-ubuntustudio [21:32] I'll forget that, LjL [21:32] !ot-#ubuntustudio is offtopic-#ubuntustudio [21:32] * jussi01 hugs LjL [21:32] LjL, you could give one of them to the bot [21:32] woops [21:32] ompaul: i dont have edit priviledges... [21:33] LjL, you could give one of them to jussi01 do to [21:33] ack [21:33] ompaul: but when I say that in pm with ubotu then it just tells me not to think it is inteligent... [21:33] jussi01: it shouldn't [21:33] jussi01, you got a bug [21:33] LjL: I know, but it does... [21:34] * jussi01 bugs ompaul [21:34] file a bug [21:34] is it doing that to anyone else? [21:35] jussi01, you are in that strange place between editor and login [21:35] I guess [21:35] ompaul: maybe... [21:35] that it is not as clean a line as you might imagine [21:36] LOL [21:36] anyway, I got to run off andd get the wife from work... [21:36] you have entered the twilight zone [21:37] jussi01, it does it for some factoids, depending on which characters are in them, there's a bug report already but i'm not sure it matches the current problem [21:38] jpatrick: ack [21:38] LjL: just in case I'm out (op team has been having problems) and freenode staff also have access === no0tic_ is now known as no0tic [22:38] hi i'd like to contest some bans [22:39] Hey Thugacation. [22:39] hi [22:39] how does it go [22:39] i'd like to appeal [22:39] Thugacation: you appealed yesterday [22:39] oh [22:40] is there a waiting list or something [22:40] to appeal again [22:40] nobody that you spoke with yesterday was the one that banned you [22:40] yes they were [22:41] nalioth, i talked with him and i banned him in -offtopic [22:41] PriceChild: but that was not his primary ban, was it? [22:41] nope [22:41] how can you define one ban as primary [22:41] theyre separate channels [22:41] primary was a bad word to use, I answered nalioth anyway as I understood what he meant [22:42] oh ok [22:42] Thugacation: if you are in school, going round to the different classrooms showing your ass, do you think they're gonna let you do it all around the place, just because it was a different classroom? [22:42] bad analogy... [22:42] anyway [22:42] no it's not [22:43] i just need some help installing linux [22:43] I think it was quite a good one. [22:43] we are all ops in the #ubuntu* channels [22:43] so shouldnt you be required to keep a ban log or something to that effect [22:43] if we see you misbehaving in one channel, do you honestly think we're not gonna be watching you in the others? [22:43] where you can write comments [22:43] that wasnt the case, LOL [22:43] Thugacation, well you could not be offtopic in a channel where you blabber on about doing support for 10 bucks [22:44] where that channel is all about support [22:44] oh good [22:44] you were obviously trolling [22:44] ompaul just confirmed what i said yesterday [22:44] i'm glad you were there [22:44] I banned you [22:44] no i asked how much they are getting paid to offer support [22:44] thanks ompaul [22:44] nothing [22:44] we do it cos we can [22:44] how is that banworthy [22:44] you did not [22:44] i did [22:44] and i was asking for general help [22:45] 2008-01-16T23:10:05 are all linux users hackers [22:45] yeah i asked a question [22:45] i didnt say they are [22:45] it is a support channel after all [22:45] 2008-01-16T23:12:48 sql injection [22:45] 2008-01-16T23:13:24 concatonate means to join together [22:45] and??? [22:45] 2008-01-16T23:13:29 dumb word right [22:45] ok i get it [22:46] 2008-01-16T23:14:53 how much do you guys get paid to give support to random people [22:46] you told me those discussions belong in off-topic [22:46] but that's not trolling [22:46] 2008-01-16T23:14:59 i would do it for less than 10 bucks [22:46] now you are an expert on trolling [22:46] we define it as annoying [22:46] !guidelines [22:46] The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [22:46] LOL [22:47] Thugacation, read that [22:47] that isnt relevant to me [22:47] because i wasnt demanding answers [22:47] i was being a "nuisance" [22:47] Thugacation, the guidelines are relevant to everyone [22:47] Thugacation, not to any Ubuntu related subject I could see [22:47] oh come on [22:47] that is you were not looking for help for iot [22:48] it is a very busy channel [22:48] i think it's safe to say that i'm right [22:48] you meander in [22:48] Thugacation: your ban will expire soon [22:48] this is going nowhere [22:48] there is that [22:49] so.... about my bans... [22:49] i'd like to appeal [22:50] Thugacation, you tried that yesterday. Why do you think today will be different? [22:50] If anything, repeated nagging will lengthen bans [22:50] today the op who banned me in #ubuntu is here [22:50] I want help installing ... you said that here earlier .. and then 2008-01-16T23:41:28 you can spoof email headers with an smtp server << so it seems [22:50] and pricechild says his decision to ban me in -offtopic was swayed by that [22:50] no it wasn't swayed [22:51] it was based [22:51] I would not have banned you else. [22:51] so I find it hard to believe you are not a troll [22:51] the guidelines apply to all I ask you to read them [22:51] PriceChild's decision to ban you in -offtopic was also "swayed" by the fact that basically every sane person in -offtopic was begging us to ban you [22:51] and come back here [22:52] ok ompaul i dont understand what you mean by that [22:52] !guidelines [22:52] The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [22:52] Thugacation: it means, to read the URLs he's posted to you and come back in a few days, if your ban hasn't disappeared by then [22:52] Thugacation, read those guidelines [22:53] the general concensus here is that i am not a troll and i was just looking for ubuntu help in the wrong places [22:53] i was offtopic in #ubuntu and i wanted support in -offtopic [22:53] "consensus" [22:53] ok ill read em [22:53] :) [22:53] Thugacation: is there anything more that we can help you with? [22:53] Thugacation, that is where you are, and not where the people here are [22:53] mneptok, does that word make you giggle? [22:53] no no the general consensus here is most likely that you *are* a troll and pretty good at not doing anything *blatantly* unacceptable yet being incredibly annoying [22:53] but not necessarily breaking any rule [22:53] you're succeeding at it right now [22:53] PriceChild: only when i pronounce it "poop" [22:54] mneptok, hehe... sounds like bum [22:54] Thugacation, do you know why we're people and not machines? [22:54] Thugacation, and for that reason alone the annoying factor does you no good, have a read and come back in a few days [22:54] thanks [22:54] Thugacation, because we don't only work based on rules, but also attempt employ common sense. [22:54] yeah i hear ya [22:55] and it's unfair [22:55] my common sense told me not only that you were a troll, but also that the fact that everyone in -ot wanted you to be banned meant that i wasn't on drugs myself. [22:55] y'all quit FEEDING [22:55] i'm almost done reading the guidelines [22:55] quit feeding the troll? lol.... later [22:55] so we have the excuse for proof [22:56] that was a pretty self-incriminating leap there, i think [22:57] now the bantracker has that little note in there .... [22:57] * nalioth was speaking of "feeding" this recycling loop [22:58]