/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/01/18/#kubuntu.txt

NickPrestagrayd2007, what do you need help with?00:03
nzkWhat's the name of that KDE program that is basically a stopwatch for how long you do things? I remember it was a very simple name.00:05
nzkYou pressed "Start" and it measured how long you did something and then you pressed "Stop"00:06
xRaich[o]2xkarm?00:06
nzkRIGHT!00:06
nzkThanks00:06
xRaich[o]2xnp00:06
jcgkffycs I'm havign a problem changing permissions for some files. I have used chmod -R option dir I have tried using the gui utility in konqueror and I have tried running konqueror as kdesudo and I have tried the chmod comand  as sudo and I still have files inside of the tree that aer not changing.00:06
NickPrestajcgkffycs, which files?00:07
jcgkffycstheir documents inside of my home folder00:07
Fahuadai1val0: Thanks for your help. Got it working. kubunut installer sees the drive and it's partitions as expected.00:09
val0Fahuadai1 no worries was glad to help out00:15
lewixhow do i find the trash00:18
NickPrestalewix, ~/.local/share/Trash00:19
lewixNickPresta, how do i empty iy00:20
lewixit00:20
NickPrestalewix, in Konqueror, type in: trash:/ into the address bar00:21
NickPrestaright click on the background and click "Empty trash bin"00:21
lewixNickPresta, thanks...how can we empty from the command line00:23
lewixNickPresta, how do i know how much space o have left00:23
biovoredf =h00:23
biovoredf -h00:23
NickPrestadf -Th. Find the partition that holds your /home directory. Then `du -sh .local/share/Trash/` for the total space taken up by your trash. Subtract the total from the trash. :)00:24
lewixbiovore, what does df stand for00:25
biovoredisk free00:26
NickPrestalewix, `man df` for more information00:26
lewixok i just did :000:26
lewixthanks for the help00:26
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miladenoi people00:51
neville?00:51
NickPrestahi, miladen00:51
miladenTotally new in kubuntu and loving it :D00:51
miladenthis is like the greatest wakeup call in my life :D00:51
nosrednaekimmiladen: glad you're liing it :)00:51
kalorin`anyone had any issues wtih dolphin?00:52
nosrednaekimkalorin`: you bet :)00:52
NickPrestakalorin`, d3lphin or KDE 4 dolphin?00:52
nevilleYeah, I found Dolphin to be dodgey too, so I just changed back to Konqueror00:52
kalorin`specifically, what I'm finding is that I leave a window open, and over time something happesn to it that itkicks off 100's of "df -k" commands that just hang00:52
kalorin`literally killed at least 250 of them a little big ago and then ti seems to dump the tcp/ip stack and just die00:53
kalorin`this is d3lphin00:53
NickPrestakalorin`, I don't like d3lphin. I would switch back to Konqueror if it suits your needs00:53
kalorin`I tied it back to the PID of the d3lphin that was running00:53
miladenDoes any1 know how i can "delegate" more bandwith to my KTorrent? it seems to DL very slow00:53
kalorin`what I'd really like to find is something that can thumbnail .xcf and .dng and .crw (canon raw) image files00:53
kalorin`not just .jpg00:53
kalorin`konqueror works ok I guess, but no thumbnailing of images that aren't jpg00:54
kalorin`at least d3lphin did some o fthat00:54
neville.png shows up for me, .bmp too, and .gif :/00:57
biovoreI get thumbnails for jpg,bmp,gif,png,xcf (and probobaly others) here00:58
biovorein konqueror00:58
NickPrestakalorin`, in the settings dialog, make sure you have media types checked and that the files you're trying to preview arent larger than the max. preview size00:59
Ahmuckhi.  i seem to have lost all networking on my laptop.  how do i fix this?01:02
Ahmuckis there a way to "reset" it?01:03
matteoAhmuck: you should keep a backup floppy of the network01:04
Ahmuckyes, well, now what?01:04
houstonanybody know how you get recently used apps to appear on KMenu?01:13
NickPrestahouston, right click on task bar > configure > Menus > QuickStart Menu Items > Show the pplications most recently used01:15
kalorin`isn't there a widget that does that?01:15
houstonah great .. I'll have a look ta!01:18
ignignokti'm trying to copy an encrypted dvd using k3b, and it gives me the error: "failed to retrieve all css keys" immediately.  k9copy just crashes doing the same thing. advice?01:32
biovoreneed decss decpder stuff01:32
Dr_willis!dvd01:33
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:33
ignignokti know, i have all libdvdcss and libdvdread stuff, i've been copying dvds successfully for a while and it just started doing this01:34
ignignokti reinstalled libdvdcss01:34
biovoreI think libdvdcss is defunct by default..01:34
ignignoktwhat do you mean?01:34
Dr_willisid say google for that exact error message. may be somthing   we are unaware of.01:35
miladenCan any1 tell me howto zip a folder in kubuntu?01:35
Dr_willisIs it just newer dvd's its having issues with?01:35
NickPrestaignignokt, I agree with Dr_Willis. This looks like a special case, most likely01:35
niallyo Dr_willis01:35
miladenCan any1 tell me howto zip a folder in kubuntu?01:35
Dr_willismiladen,  use the zip command, or a gui based archive tool.01:35
niallyou could try rights clicking it and going to actions > extract here01:36
miladenyeah but what is the zip command other than zip01:36
ignignoktDr_willis: that sounds reasonable, this is the only dvd i've ever had trouble with and it is fairly new01:36
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ignignoktthanks01:36
Dr_willismiladen,   you just said zip. :) theres dozen of alternatives to zip01:36
biovoreignignokt: decss violates DCMA so there not technialy allow to distrubute it in the US..  look at the readme file in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread301:36
niallDr_willis: I got that file to install eventually ;]01:36
miladen-dklike : zip folder=folder foldername?01:36
Dr_willisbgzip01:36
miladen-dki googled it for an hour now :S01:37
Dr_willismiladen-dk,  read the man pages for the zip command? or try zip --help ?01:37
Dr_willis-help not -- help :)01:37
miladen-dkdont really understand it... isnt it just a simple command you can type in?01:37
Dr_williszip has a lot of optiuons01:38
Dr_willisYou could use some of the gui archiving tools like ark01:38
miladen-dkif i just want to zip a folder in my working directory01:38
Dr_willisls01:38
Dr_willisoops01:38
biovorehehe01:38
Dr_willis zip foo.zip *01:39
miladen-dkin zip -help there is no create funktion01:39
miladen-dkfunction*01:39
Dr_williszip [-options] [-b path] [-t mmddyyyy] [-n suffixes] [zipfile list] [-xi list]01:40
Dr_williszip zipfilename list-of-files01:40
miladen-dki cant write foldername?01:40
Dr_willisgive it a directory/* then.. try it and see01:40
Dr_williszip foo.zip *    worked forme01:41
miladen-dksay what? :S im a newb01:41
Dr_williszip foo.zip /path/to/whatever/*01:41
miladen-dkDr_willis thx01:41
miladen-dkzip zipname.zip * helped01:42
Dr_willishttp://linux.about.com/od/commands/a/blcmdl1_zipx.htm01:42
Dr_willisgoogle showed an example page of the command01:43
Max-PHi, can Kubuntu reboot itself for no reasons?01:47
LjLno, if it reboots, there's a reason01:48
biovoreyour mobo can reboot for no reason..01:48
LjLit might be hard to find though01:48
Max-PI'm reading the system log01:49
Max-Pbut I don't see anything01:49
Max-Pthe last time it does that, it was overheating01:49
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Max-Pbut it is at 55C01:49
biovoreyeah.. bios might be kicking in..01:49
Max-P=/01:50
Max-PMaybe a crash of KDM or X01:50
Max-PI was testing KDM Themes01:50
Max-PIt worked01:50
Max-Pthen I was changing the song playing in AmaroK and Kubuntu stopped (like if I selected the Shutdown option)01:51
Max-Pstrange01:51
sven_oostenbrinkIm trying to print a pdf file from kpdf, but nothing is happening.. no printing, no error, no nothing01:51
sven_oostenbrinkIs there a way I can find out why?01:51
sven_oostenbrinkcups is running ok01:51
sven_oostenbrinkits just not doing anything when I press the print button01:51
biovorepaper size problem maybe?01:52
Dr_willischeck the logs in /var/logs also.01:53
Dr_willisrun the kpdf tool from a terminal also, and try printing - it may show some info.01:53
miladen-dkwhats the best linux HP?01:54
Dr_willishp?01:54
nosrednaekimmiladen-dk: linux HP? desktop? notebook?printer?01:54
Dr_willisIt pays to be very clear and concise on irc. :)01:54
miladen-dkhp = homepage01:55
miladen-dkhehe01:55
Dr_willisGee....01:55
miladen-dksorry01:55
nosrednaekimLOL01:55
Dr_willisgoogle.com/linux01:55
nosrednaekimI use tuxmachines01:55
Dr_willistheres several linux links web pages also.01:55
nosrednaekimplanet ubuntu is good as well01:55
echoes84is it possible to to add a second panel in kde4 yet?  i don't think it is, but i just want a confirmation...01:55
Dr_willisIjust set up live bookmarks for a few pages. theres several ubuntu specific pages out also.01:55
asdasdsahow can i have a gif picture as my wallpaper?01:57
bishnu_i needed to setup wireless access in kubuntu01:57
bishnu_can anybody help01:57
echoes84gif images are supported as wallpapers in kde at least01:58
miladen-dkwhy can i only choose "request install" in adept and not just "install" ? when does my request happen?01:58
miladen-dkdo i have to go to my konsole and press sudo apt-get install everytime?01:59
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laterguahow can i have a gif picture as my wallpaper?01:59
bmk789is there a way to change kmix's interval for changing volume?02:00
nosrednaekimmiladen-dk: when you hit apply all the changes are applyed02:01
nosrednaekimbmk789: I don't think so02:01
bmk789:\ the jumps are too big to be useful02:01
unclemikeon a  P2 450 mhz  384 mb ram...and a 256 mb nvidia vid card..how well does kubuntu 7.10 run02:01
miladen-dknosrednaekim thx man02:02
laterguahow can i have a moving g if picture as my wallpaper(Ubuntu)?02:05
ubuntuHI02:05
arrow4could someone tell me program to use on kubuntu for connecting to VPN setup on Microsoft Server?02:06
sgroverAnyone know how to reset my NIC to be eth0 again?  It's being set up as eth2, and messing up my VMWare connections02:06
sgroverarrow4: you'll need the PPTP packages I think.  But other than that, I think just openVPN.  The knetwork manager can connect to VPNs once the environment is in place.02:07
arrow4have all those plugins installed02:07
arrow4even have Kvpnc installed02:08
ubuntuhow many Gbytes spends a kubuntu partition on my HDD?02:08
sgroverarrow4: right-click on the knetwork manager, there might be a VPN item there...  (it was when I connected once before this way...)02:08
sgroverarrow4: this might help:  http://grover.open2space.com/node/16202:09
arrow4ok02:09
arrow4thanks will check this out02:10
arrow4this is only thing hold me back to move away from Windows02:10
sgroverIt's just a quick blog entry pointing to another article...  Don't give up, I know it's possible.  I do VPN via openvpn to an IPCop firewall (which then gives me access to the internal servers, which will prompt for authentication as needed).02:11
sgroverBut if you're going to a Windows VPN server, I don't think openvpn will work well...02:11
arrow4oh02:12
arrow4have to login work vpn to mange lovely MS servers.02:12
sgroverarrow4: understood.  I vpn in to access the IIS server and keep that running.  But they were smart and went with IPCop for the firewall.. :)02:13
arrow4how is IPCop for firewall, never had change to try that out?02:14
|Quest|_if i ssh or telnet any shell. can i be harmed or what harm can i make to the shell?02:15
arrow4anyone know hold up with the final release of WUBI 7.10, still in beta02:15
sgroverI've been using it since 1.3.1.  Never a complaint.  I host my own servers behind it, and have a coupld of the plugins (openvpn).  It's never let me down.  Hardware failure yes, but not a system failure.02:16
arrow4And it's free02:16
arrow4compared to hardware firewall02:16
sgroverYou still need hardware...  but you can use older boxes kicking around.  Mine is running on a PIII-700, before that it was a Pentium 166.02:17
arrow4Oh yea02:18
arrow4but purchasing a hardware device compared to making your own02:18
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larryI am trying (for the first time on kubuntu) to reconfigure my kernel.  I tried "make menuconfig", but it fails because of a missing curses.h file.  Is kubuntu THAT different from gentoo?02:20
sgroverThe cheapy consumer firewalls quickly become unsuitable when you start hosting servers, or have multiple external IPs to setup forwarding rules for...  IPCop gives me the same capabilities as the Cisco routers I used years ago, with an easier interface...02:20
arrow4has to be gui based program for connecting to PPTP VPN Server more user friendly02:21
lontralarry: you need to install ncurses02:21
sgroverlarry: did you do an apt-get install build-essentials ?  That *should* resolve that problem for you.02:21
sgrovernot to mention you need to that to do the compiling...02:21
* lontra ponders moving from debian to kubuntu02:21
larryThanks, Iontra, I will sign-off and try that.  sgrover - nope, I'll do that too.02:22
arrow4That is true sgrover, home firewall do become flakey02:22
sgroverarrow4: hehe.. yep.  My customer was running 40+ workstations behind a cheap linksys.  Couldn't figure out why their Internet kept going down.02:23
lontralarry: specifically for make menuconfig it's ncurses-dev02:23
arrow4anyone using WUBI?02:24
larrythanks again, Iontra, I am gone to try!02:24
sgroverlarry: there's lots of how-to's out there.  Here's the first I found for "ubuntu compile kernel" - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2485302:24
sgroverright back - need to restart networking (maybe with reboot)02:29
arrow4MPPE is what I need02:31
arrow4to get PPTP Client to work02:31
|Quest|_ iam asking coz some one asked me to give shell to host his eggdrop. and i asked some one too. to host my eggdrop on his pc.  i just wanted to know how it works. how to setup and what type of acces is given to a person using shell on someones else pc. and does the user has any thing to worry?02:31
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nosrednaekim|Quest|_: depends on what priveledges you give them02:32
sgroverFixed my NIC issue.  the designators are assigned in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.  Just commented out the original eth0 and eth2 lines, then copied the eth2 and changed it to eth0.  All better...02:33
sgroverbut took a reboot.02:34
nosrednaekimsgrover: I have the same problem!02:35
nosrednaekimsgrover: it doesn't really bother me though <_<02:35
sgrovernosrednaekim: there's the fix.. :)02:35
sgrovernosrednaekim: normally, I wouldn't care.  But I have VMs that I move between machines, and the networking is all set up for eth002:35
nosrednaekimah... ok02:35
StrangeletCan anyone here recommend a suitable webcam application? I cannot find anything :\02:37
sgroverThis is the fallout from a week of hell starting with a memory upgrade.  Needed to install 64 bit *buntu to get my full 5 GB of ram, then motherboard failed a day later, then replacement board was DOA.  Then the replacement for replacement went belly up (voltage issues), and now I have a MB that seems to be stable... phew.02:38
sgroverStrangelet: if you find one, let me know?  The only one I'm aware of is the one that comes on the EeePC.02:38
nosrednaekimsgrover: lol02:40
nosrednaekimStrangelet: to do what? skype works...02:40
dsmith#compiz02:40
dsmithooops02:40
Strangeletnosrednaekim: Mostly to take photos, for facebook and such :)02:40
sgroverStrangelet: there's a few possible leads here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=kubuntu+webcam&btnG=Search02:40
nosrednaekim!search webcam02:41
ubotuFound: webcam, cam, webcams02:41
Strangeletsgrover: hmm, I will search through these :)02:41
sgrover(was trying to find you a definitive answer, but didn't see one right away...)02:41
nosrednaekimStrangelet: take a look at the app "webcam"02:41
nosrednaekimor camgrab02:42
Strangeletnosrednaekim: I tried out webcam, didn't work too well :(02:42
nosrednaekimStrangelet: check out cheese as well02:44
Strangeletnosrednaekim: Ehh, tried it, terrible photo quality02:46
nosrednaekimwell, I think you can buy the one included with the eeepc02:46
Strangelethmm, what is the default directory leading to the webcam itself?02:52
nosrednaekimprobably in /dev somewhere02:52
nosrednaekimit might depend on your model02:52
nosrednaekim!webcam02:52
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras02:52
Strangeletthanks :)02:54
niallso how do I get flash working in Kubuntu?02:54
niallI don't wanna try until I know exactly how to do, so I don't mess it up :x02:54
NickPresta!flash | niall02:54
ubotuniall: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash02:54
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.02:54
niallhow long would I have to wait for an official fix? :x02:55
nosrednaekimniall: I have no clue.....02:55
niallalso02:55
niallI'm currently using konquerer, not firefox :X02:55
nialldoes that make a difference?02:56
nosrednaekimniall: makes it a bit easier I think02:56
ardchoilleniall: iirc, the current flash plugin doesn't work with konqueror because Adobe added something to the release that konqueror doesn't support.02:57
niallballs02:57
michaelnovakjrardchoille: do we know what that something is by chance?02:59
ardchoillemichaelnovakjr: I remember libx*** but that's it03:01
michaelnovakjranywhere i could look it up?03:02
ardchoilleHold on03:02
michaelnovakjrthanks03:02
ardchoillemichaelnovakjr: the reason for this is konqueror does not support XEmbed03:08
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adsfasdfasdfasdfhow can i add audio (mp3 file ) to a video (mpg) ?03:18
adsfasdfasdfasdfwithout using avidemux :D03:18
flamesage!hi | flamesage03:22
flamesageHow's everyone doin?03:23
echoes84is there a kde4 based hardy disc (any release, i.e. a1, a2, etc)?03:33
geniiechoes84: Since Hardy will not be shipping with kde4, no03:34
echoes84what?  kubuntu is shipping with kde4.03:35
niallI thought it was shipping with both03:37
geniiechoes84: It ships with kde 3.5.8 and kde4 is available as a meta package03:37
niallthere's a kubuntu KDE4 live CD03:37
echoes84actually, genii, i thinks its the other way around.03:38
echoes84they announced kubuntu 8.04 will not be a LTS release & will ship with kde4, with an alternate kde3 disc.03:38
niallyeah03:38
niallI read that03:38
geniiI am referring from https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Alpha3/Kubuntu03:38
echoes84@ niall, i know there is a gutsy kde4 disc, but i was wondering if there is a hardy one...03:39
genii"The focus for 8.04 with KDE 3.5 for the Kubuntu community will be stability." etc etc03:39
echoes84i think that was before they reversed their descision about which version of kde to include by default.03:40
niall'It was recently [WWW] announced that Kubuntu 8.04 will not be an LTS release. Due to this news, the goals for the release have been revised, with more effort focused on the newly released KDE 4.0. Kubuntu Hardy will now ship two CDs: one with KDE 3.5, supported for the standard 18 months, and one with KDE 4.0, supported by the community for 6 months. Users upgrading from Kubuntu Gutsy will get the KDE 3.5 desktop. '03:40
echoes84yeah, one of the first sentences of a3 release page says: "It was recently [WWW] announced that Kubuntu 8.04 will not be an LTS release. Due to this news, the goals for the release have been revised, with more effort focused on the newly released KDE 4.0"03:40
echoes84oops, my bad, niall beat me to it.03:41
niall;]03:41
geniiechoes84: Heh :)03:41
niallyou could download the kubuntu hardy alpha 303:41
echoes84thats what i was just wondering about.  i'm confused, does the a3 disc have kde4 by default or kde3?03:42
niallit doesn't say03:42
echoes84so i noticed...03:42
echoes84i'll check wikipedia03:42
geniiIf upgrading it looks like 3.5.X defaults03:42
geniiI'm not installineg Hardy yet until out of alpha, preferably RC version03:43
niallwill it's due to ship in April03:43
echoes84i'm running hardy as we speak with kde3, kde4, & enlightenment.03:43
geniiTho running kde4 on Gutsy03:43
niallI tried running KDE403:44
echoes84atm i'm in kde3.03:44
niallI downloaded that live CD anyway03:44
nialland it ran really slow03:44
echoes84i can't find a definitive answer as to whether a3 ships with kde3 or kde4 by default...i guess i'll have to read through the package list.03:44
geniiI'm in 3.5.8 usually and 4 for testing03:44
niallechoes84: good plan03:45
echoes84its the only plan.03:45
niall;D03:45
niallhave you tried koffice2?03:46
echoes84yes, briefly.03:47
echoes84i use ooo tho.03:47
echoes84koffice's ui is quite a bit differently layed out compared to ooo03:48
niallyeah03:48
echoes84well, i read the a3 package list, but its quite short...03:48
nialland is ooo is basically laid out like office03:48
echoes84and it seems that it only lists the barebones/low level packages.03:48
echoes84yes, thats right, ooo is laid out like mso.03:49
echoes84i hope someone makes an oxygen style for ooo so that it better integrates w/ kde4.03:49
echoes84i guess the only way to find out if a3 ships with kde3 or kde4 by default is to download the whole thing!  :(03:49
niallyus :<03:50
echoes84oh well, at least i'm on broadband and not dialup.  now that would be a problem...03:50
niallis there not some way you could check the package list in kubuntu?03:50
nialllike add the alpha repository and download the list using apt or some junk03:50
ubunturoswith dapper, I get an error message, "The process for System protocol died unexpectedly" - any clue why this is happening (the system menu on the KDE-panel)03:51
niallor is that totally what you did03:51
echoes84oh yeah, i could do that...03:52
echoes84no, there is a package list on the download page.03:52
echoes84i checked that.03:53
echoes84can anyone help me choose another language in kde(3)?  i have all the appropriate language packages installed but the language does not show up in the language selector.03:53
niallyeah, I assumed that's what you would have done03:53
makers_markkde4 any good?04:00
larryI purchased a 500GB usb2 drive for backup, and now have many files on it.  I need to adjust the time before it auto-spins-down, so I don't get io errs.  It is mounted as a scsi disk.  I have read the linux HOWTOs, where is best to read more?04:00
biovorelarry: well if you unmount the disk.. the harddisk should part it's head..  I think you might be able to do it via hdparm..04:01
larryI shall read hdparm, biovore, thanks!04:02
biovorelarry: there is also scsi-idle sg_start hd-idle.. not sure which on is on ubuntu..04:03
niallin the kde widget settings04:03
niallwhat does it mean by rubber band?04:03
biovorelarry: there is also sdparm04:03
larrybiovore - I'll try to find out.04:03
niallnn04:06
PendetaWe are win xp users, trying to switch to kubuntu. The file system seems to be quite different. Is there a document somewhere that explains how to use it. For example, how to determine the path to a file?04:08
geniiPendeta: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/04:11
biovorePendeta: no drive letters.. yeah.. its a brave new world bound to warp your mind..  http://tille.garrels.be/training/tldp/ <-- good place to start for new linux/unix users04:11
genii!fhs04:11
ubotuAn explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview04:11
geniialso04:12
ubunturosPendeta: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/dirs.html - shoud help too04:12
ubunturoswith dapper, I get an error message, "The process for System protocol died unexpectedly" - any clue why this is happening (the system menu on the KDE-panel)04:13
PendetaThank you!04:13
makers_markhey,i'm running ubuntu and just installed kde but it installed v. 3.5.8 - how can i upgrade to version 4 from terminal (i'm a nubcake with linux)04:14
biovoremakers_mark: probably don't want to run kde4 yet..  Not ready for prime time04:14
biovore!kde404:14
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde404:14
makers_markthanks04:15
EllementHopefully someone can help me. I just installed kubuntu and now need to install driver for ati vid card. i tried the restircted drivers method but system said i didnt need any. i looked on ati site and they have a linux x86 driver for my card can i install that?04:15
mixedhow do the change the window size of terminals?04:16
geniiEllement: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide04:16
mixed!window size04:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about window size - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:17
Ellementthanks genii04:17
mixedanyone know how to change the default size of the app windows?04:17
geniiEllement: np04:18
makers_markhey,there's this panel at the top of the screen with kde and it won't let me remove it.help?04:20
Ellementgenii: it says "Make sure the restricted repository is enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list or this guide will not work!" System > Administration > Software Sources. Check "Proprietary Drivers for Devices (Restricted)" box.   but i cant see see system > administration04:22
geniiEllement: This is a Gnome-ism. Instead go to Add/Remove programs04:23
geniiEllement: Make sure "proprietary software"   is checked off04:24
PendetaThanks to all of you that helped me!04:24
Ellementgenii: ok04:25
Ellementthanks04:25
Odd-rationaleHello! I don't have any ~/.bashrc file. Is there one hiding somewhere in the filesystem that I can just cpoy?04:26
Odd-rationale*copy?04:26
Ellementgenii: it opened up adept installer. i unchecked "proprietary software"  now do i exit that and go back to restricted drivers, or do i handle it in adept install now?04:26
ardchoilleOdd-rationale: Try: /etc/skel/.bashrc04:27
Odd-rationaleardchoille: Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks so much!04:28
geniiEllement: After you checked off the "propprietary software" box safe to close Adept. It just enables the repositories you need04:28
ardchoilleOdd-rationale: yw04:28
Ellementgenii: ok04:30
Ellementgenii: have tried all commands under Method 1: Install the Driver the Ubuntu Way and still not getting anywhere :(04:35
geniiEllement: Do the manual install04:35
Ellementwwerid: i opend adept installer again and proprietary software was checked even tho i unchecked it04:36
Ellementgenii: whats considered the "downloads" folder home?04:38
geniiEllement: usually if not changed then /home/yourusername04:39
aldospam irc.rizon.net with server address irc.hydroblunt.net04:46
NickPrestano aldo, no04:47
aldowhy not rizon sucks04:47
NickPrestaaldo, that's fine. This is not the place for this discussion, thanks.04:48
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Ellementgenii: when i type sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx i get an error saying depends: libstdc++5 but it is not installable05:11
sigma_1234i have embedded acrobat reader into konqueror but when i try enter data into pdf forms i cannot type anything05:16
sigma_1234the cursor blinks but when i type nothing happens05:16
homoludenshi there, sorry for posting on this channel. where can i ask newbee questions regarding kontact? i want to find out how to get basket embedded into kontact. thanks ...05:30
homoludensbasket somehow seems to be disabled from the "add components" menu under "configure kontact".05:31
homoludensother components such as kalarm and kpilot do show up, though ...05:31
homoludensi googled for a solution & checked the (k)ubuntu forums, but couldn't find anything informative. am i the only one with this problem? :(05:32
olddude67homoludens, i didnt see it in mine either but i dont use it either.05:36
homoludensoh ... :((05:36
olddude67i just looked, and didnt see anything about it, whats its purpose anyways?05:37
Max_-Hi, I'm actually on the LiveCD and trying to install... I've read somewhere that RAID were easy to setup on installation, ... now I can't see how to do this, my RAID partitions are not recognized and I can't set them back to raid partitions either.. what's wrong?05:38
olddude67homoludens, you have to do sudo apt-get install basket try that.05:41
jalbertI keep getting an error whenever I try to run Adept05:44
olddude67Max_, have you tried asking that question in the regular ubuntu channel?05:44
jalbertit says another process is using the database05:44
jalberthow can I identify and close this process?05:45
homoludensolddude67:basket is an excellent note manager / outliner etc., similar to ms' onenote (or whatever that one was called). knotes is a bit too simple for my purposes -- i was looking for something matching outlook's note taking facilities --, so basket seemed like a good replacement. see http://basket.kde.org/.05:45
Max_-olddude67: just did...05:45
olddude67homoludens, well i just did apt-get on it and it changed how my kontact looked.05:45
olddude67did you try that?05:46
jalbertis there a way to find what application might be using the package database?05:46
olddude67ps -e in terminal05:46
homoludensolddude67: did you use the terminal, or the gui apt-get?05:46
olddude67terminal05:46
homoludensthanks, i'll try it.05:46
olddude67to use to slackware05:46
jalbertanyone?05:46
Max_-people knowing about raids are very rare.... I must be the only of a kind to have a laptop with 2 HDDs05:47
olddude67jalbert, ps -e in terminal05:47
jalbertoh ok thx05:47
olddude67will tell you everything running05:47
olddude67Max_ ya i havent heard of to many people having 2 hdds in a laptop.05:48
jalberthow can I kill adept_installer?05:48
sigma_1234how do i use module assistant to build a package?05:48
olddude67jalbert, kill  and then the number in front of it.05:49
jalbertyeah I tried that and it won't let me05:49
jalbertlemme try sudo kill x05:49
Max_-olddude67: I've had a very good experience with Fedora on RAID1, and since I'm searching for a better OS supporting RAID1 easily too... Else I'll have to backup like everyone.. but that was the point in having two HDDs, not backuping all the time!05:49
jalbertdamn05:50
jalbertstill getting that error05:50
olddude67Max_, have you tried in #raid?05:50
jalbertwtf?05:50
jalbertis there any way to find the process that's uding the package database?05:51
Max_-olddude67: no, didn't know that existed, but raid support is very OS dependant... well I'll go see if they can help, thanks for the suggestion05:51
olddude67jalbert probably but i wouldnt know im just switching from slackware.05:52
SoftVisionhi is anyone experiencing missing icons in kubuntu's packaged kde4? has an update been issued to fix this?05:52
jalbertthis is really frustrating05:52
Max_-olddude67: it doesn't exist :P05:52
olddude67Max_, sorry thought it would be worth a shot.05:52
Max_-np05:53
jalbertthis is unbeleivable05:56
jalbertso there's no way to find the process that's using the package database?05:56
jalbertI guess I'm going to have to just reformat and reinstall everything and start over from scratch05:57
jalbertI can't upgrade05:57
jalbertI can't install or uninstall anything05:57
jalbertexcept by downloading source and compiling it05:58
jalbertand even that doesn't work half the time05:58
jordoexdoes anyone know how to use the upgrade manager to upgrade to hardy alpha 3? I really want projectM but compiling it doesn't seem to work.06:00
jordoexand it's in hardy and not gutsy06:00
till_arrrg. just did "sudo apt-get upgrade" on my gutsy box and now i can't launch eclipse. it crashes with "The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'." message in console. what could it be?06:05
jalbertAnother process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.06:05
jalbertthis is bullshit06:06
jalbertI'm spending mnore time dicking around than I am getting anything done06:06
michaelnovakjrjalbert just kill -9 the process and restart the manager06:08
jalbertwhich process?06:09
jalbertI'm just doing sudo dpkg --configure -a06:09
till_eclipse reports this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52369/ anything i can do to solve this?06:09
michaelnovakjrjalbert if you get the message that another process is running the package system kill that one06:09
jalbertit doesnt tell me which process06:10
jalbertjust says "another process"06:10
michaelnovakjrjalbert run this... ps -elf | grep adept06:10
jalbertnow adept won't open at all06:10
awarringwhy when i try to sudo apt-get install g++, it asks me to insert the kubuntu cdrom?06:10
jalbert\what's elf?06:10
jalbertI mean -elf?06:11
michaelnovakjrjalbert when you run that command note the process id ..... then just run kill -9 <pid>06:11
jalbertok06:11
jalbertwell adept loaded now06:12
jalbertbut I don't see most of the packages that ought to be there06:12
jalbertmy repos list is messed up06:12
michaelnovakjrjalbert, i think the adept manager is absolutely terrible, i can't tell you the amount of problems I have had with it06:13
jalberthalf the stuff that used to be there06:13
jalbertwell somehow my Skype installation got f-d up06:13
jalbertI am trying to install it because my cell phone just died06:14
jalbertand it's not in the packagers list06:14
jalbert*packages list*06:14
jalbertthis is such crap06:16
jalberthere's another error I get *all* the time:06:17
jalbertps -elf | grep adept06:17
jalbertdamn\06:17
jalbertThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.06:17
Val0does anyone here use centerim?06:17
jalbertthat happens *every time* I use adept06:17
jalbertevery dingle time06:17
jalbertsingle06:17
Val0jalbert check out the ubuntu forums for that fix06:17
Val0jalbert you need to add something to your repo list06:18
jalbertnothing in the forums about that06:19
jalbertwhen I search for that error I get no matches06:20
Val0jalbert hold on i have that error bookmark from the forums06:20
jalbertI'm just going to go ahead and try to upgrade06:20
Val0jalbert it probably won't work but it's a simple fix06:21
michaelnovakjrVal0 can you give me that link, I also have the adept problem described06:22
Val0michaelnovakjr yeh just one sex06:22
Val0sec*06:22
michaelnovakjrVal0 thanks06:23
Val0ok what you need to do is go to your Adept Installer>Edit Software Sources>Updates and add Pre-released updates06:26
Val0then sudo apt-get update06:26
Val0then you can again06:26
Val0should fix it for you06:26
jalberthow can I upgrade to Gutsy via the command line?06:27
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jalbertI'm running Feisty now06:27
Val0jalbert that i can't help you with :D06:31
calcmandananyone run a website with streaming audio?06:32
bazhang!upgrade | jalbert06:32
ubotujalbert: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes06:32
Val0michaelnovakjr did it work?06:35
michaelnovakjri have to kill the process.. it crashed on me again06:35
Val0michaelnovakjr ok06:35
Ellementrubin: well got fglrx to install which is good. but restricted drivers still not working. so still cant install ati driver06:51
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kost__сколько тут народу06:52
sigmahow do i program a shortcut to open up a url in firefox and not konqueror? i still want konq as my default browser06:54
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K44ALL_Marphine\/msg nickserv register ambpea06:55
kost__фак06:56
Val0lol06:56
kost__кубунтуу нафиг06:57
Val0kost dont like it?06:57
c1|freakyhi all. does someone know if theres a way to configure the new, kde4 system bar? (that thing replacing kicker)?06:58
kost__:(06:59
till_c1|freaky: it's not configurable atm because plasma isn't finished yet imho07:02
c1|freakyok07:03
kost__kde 3.5 foreva07:03
c1|freakykde4 really looks nice but strange things keep happening07:03
till_c1|freaky: it's just the beginning :)07:04
c1|freakyhopefully they get some work done soon i really dont want to use kde3.5 anymore07:05
Lynoureheh, new broken is always more fun than the same old? =)07:05
till_i switched back to kde 3.5 from kde4 because the last one is laggy with opengl on my g-force 5700 :(07:06
c1|freakyif there are enough good changes sure07:06
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ForgeAusyou could get kde 3.8 in the meantime07:06
c1|freakyim talking about 3.807:07
c1|freakyi guess07:07
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c1|freakygotta reboot07:07
c1|freakyor, restart x07:07
c1|freakyone moment07:07
kost__:)07:08
c1|freakyback at kde3 now07:12
SupermarketFallHELP ME INSTALL kUBUNTU WITHOUT DRIVES07:13
ForgeAuswithout drives?07:13
ForgeAusthats an odd one07:13
kost__i from syberia, russia, we use kubuntu07:13
SupermarketFallDoes SuN SUPPORT IT07:13
SupermarketFallerrrr07:14
ForgeAusawesome kost07:14
SupermarketFallI need i386 Ubuntu.07:14
appelzaSOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE07:14
ForgeAushey intellikey :)07:14
SupermarketFallor Kubuntu for Konquorer.07:14
intelikeyForgeAus shalom07:14
ForgeAusSupermarket what do you mean without drives?07:14
SupermarketFallWill Ubuntu install on my 386?07:14
ForgeAusSupermarket it will run but you do require a drive to install it to...07:15
intelikeygrub question; can grub display it's menu on a picture like lilo can ?07:15
ForgeAusyes intelikey07:16
SupermarketFallintelikey: GRAMMAR CORRECTION: its07:16
ForgeAustheres a gspash or something like that07:16
ForgeAusyeah well displaying it is menu doesn't make sense Supermarket07:16
intelikeySupermarketFall habit from cli   never use ' unless you mean it.07:16
ForgeAusI think most people that can read English are able to overlook that minor grammatic mistake07:16
ForgeAuswb kost07:17
kost_:)07:17
SupermarketFallForgeAus: Tell my English teacher that.07:17
ForgeAusSupermarket I don't know her, perhaps you should07:17
ForgeAusif she's that evil07:17
dhqhow do i get transperent theme for gkrellm07:17
hajhousehow can i share a locally connect printer (on parallel port) so that other users on my local network can print to it?07:18
ForgeAusGrammar and spelling are about clarity of meaning, if the meaning is already clear the purpose is already served right?...07:18
ForgeAusHaj you mean via samba? or something?07:19
intelikeyhajhouse cups / cupsys is made for that very thing.   <your browser> 127.0.0.1:631     to configure07:19
ForgeAusahh ok cups :)07:19
hajhouseintelikey: trying now07:20
hajhouseForgeAus: yes, cups07:20
ForgeAusintellikey I didn't think you used a browser07:20
ForgeAusat least not on your partitionless disk :)07:20
hajhouseintelikey: use my root password when cups web interface asks for password and username?07:20
intelikeymy brouser != gui07:20
ForgeAusoh IC07:21
ForgeAuslynx?07:21
intelikeyhajhouse try it.    i'm not sure if they set that up for sudo or the cups password seperately07:21
hajhouseintelikey: root didn't work. my username did :)07:22
intelikeyForgeAus links2   or   elinks     i don't much care for lynx07:22
hajhouseintelikey: looks like this will work. trying from another machine07:22
ForgeAuswell I have to admit I get a little nostalgic over Lynx but I wouldn't want to be using it for any length of time07:22
Odd-rationaleWhat is the command to end all apt processes?07:24
fdoving!adept fix | odd-rationale07:24
ubotuodd-rationale: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »07:24
intelikeykillall 'apt-get'07:25
Odd-rationaleThanks guys!07:26
hajhouseintelikey: should i configure the printer on the other machine (that will access it from the network) as a generic printer? or as what is actually is?07:28
intelikeywhat it is07:28
angrychefI tried kubuntu with the new kde 4.0 the other day and it seems like its missing tons of stuff?07:30
angrycheficons etc07:30
angrychefanyone know anything about this?07:30
fdovingit is.07:30
angrychefok07:30
hajhouseintelikey: ok, i did that. the other machine is using xubuntu. i'm having trouble getting it to work.07:31
fdovingangrychef: try it again some time soon, there will be new versions of the packages and things will improve alot. it's a new release and the buildsystem is new to the packages, so lots of things change to the better in new package versions.07:31
angrychefI definatley was not impressed.. I thought kubuntu was just ubuntu with kde but I guess I was wrong.. and im not trying to talk crap about kubuntu or anything07:31
angrychefOh ill def try again07:32
intelikeyhajhouse i'm not well versed in cups trouble shooting   so maybe someone else can   or   /join #cups    might get a response in there too07:32
angrychefIm really not a fan of the new default menu system in kde 407:32
intelikey!cups07:33
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows07:33
hajhouseintelikey: thanks. i think i need to study this more.07:33
intelikeythere might be a clue-by-four ^ there also07:33
fdovingangrychef: i wasn't a fan of the new kickoff-menu-thing either, but after getting used to it it's much faster.07:33
fdoving(and that is with a laptop and trackpad/point)07:34
hajhouseintelikey: thanks i'll try that. it looks like a cups problem07:34
intelikeyhowto test for a mac address on a lan  ?07:40
intelikeyor even better how to find the ip of said mac address ?07:41
Ellementhelp: in manual install of video card, i have to enter sudo aticonfig --initial. its telling me to copy config file template to /etc/XII. not sure how i go about this. thanks for any help07:41
Evolution4hey guys, I was wondering if its possible to have AWN on KDE07:42
intelikeyEllement perhaps;  sudo cp /etc/X11/* /target/etc/X1107:42
hybrid_intelikey - I usually do this utilizing my routers webtools07:43
intelikeyhybrid_ no router involved here07:43
Ellementintelikey: i get "/target/etc/X11 is not a directory07:43
fdovingintelikey: you can try the 'arp' command.07:44
intelikeyfdoving cool ty.07:44
hybrid_Intelikey  - what's your dhcp server?07:44
intelikeyEllement then translate the path /target/  to the system you want it on.07:44
intelikeyhybrid_ haven't setup any dhcp yet.   that's why i'm investigating this ahead of tim.07:45
intelikeye07:45
hybrid_problem: anyone know how to autohide the plasma (kicker) bar in KDE4?07:45
awarringwhy when i try to sudo apt-get install g++, it asks me to insert the kubuntu cdrom?07:46
intelikeyhybrid_ i'm it the process of trying to migrate to dhcp from all static.    and was aware that i would need some way to find the gateway box  when all the addresses change07:46
fdovinghybrid_: not possible, as far as i know.07:46
Ellementproblem is i have no xorg.conf which is the file i needs to write to07:47
fdovingintelikey: you probably want to set a static dhcp for the gateways mac, then.07:47
hybrid_intelikey - not sure then, it would be way easier if you were had access to a dhcp server on the network...07:48
hybrid_fdoving - thanks, it's been buggin me for weeks, and the last time I came in here I was told to delete some constraints in the plasma config file, but that removed the bar completely :(07:49
intelikeyfdoving heh  but there are more than one gateway     which means that i will have to test and see which one is up at the time.07:49
* intelikey should probably leave working alone before he makes it broken07:50
fdovingintelikey: then working with separate ips would be the best i guess.07:51
fdovingyou need to ping or something to get the mac into the arp-cache, so working with mac addresses directly isn't that handy.07:52
intelikeyi can identify the boxs by mac address   and arp can get that     so i think it's just a matter of running a script that will do the testing and configure accordingly07:53
TheAlienhey can someone help me on using adept installer to install flash on kubuntu?07:54
intelikeysounds like i'm about to write my own dhcp setup      and i probably wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel if i understood the wheel that is in existance07:54
intelikey!flash | TheAlien07:55
ubotuTheAlien: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash07:55
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.07:55
TheAlienbroken ok07:56
intelikeyconspiracy theory; M$ is trying to slow down the competition generated by ubuntu, by sabataging third party propritary software.   like flash installer.....     :/07:58
TheAlienthey probably are07:58
TheAlienthe bastards07:58
intelikeycome on guys,  it's just a joke...                                                                                                 or is it ?07:58
emilsedghGnash is becoming better and better, soon it will work everywhere and will be on distro's as default flash player...08:01
intelikeyemilsedgh only until the "new flash" is released.   which wont be compatable with other versions...08:02
se7en__ok if someone uses conky on kde4 and finds out why it doesen't work with the own_window no setting turned on please let me know08:03
emilsedghintelikey: gnash will catch flash i think...08:03
intelikeyi hope08:03
intelikeywell. time to backup, if i'm going to play with networking on a server i have to have working again in one hour...08:08
dhqi have a problem i can ping sites i can download torrents login irc and im but i can surf what could be the problem08:09
val0dhq check that your port 80 is open08:09
dhqval0: how do i check08:10
val0dhq: do you run a firewall?08:10
val0dhq firestarter or something like that?08:11
dhqno08:11
ardchoilleval0: Why would port 80 need to be open just to surf the web? I have no ports open and my web surfing is fine.08:12
val0ardchoille HTTP is over port 8008:13
fdovingardchoille: outgoing.08:13
val0ardchoille different protocols use different ports :D08:13
ardchoilleval0: Right, but I have no ports open or forwarded08:14
dhqwhat do i do08:14
dhqok i will restart and be back08:14
ardchoilleAnd iirc, ubuntu/kubuntu ship with no ports open but websurfing, pop, smtp, ftp all work fine08:15
val0ardchoille you don't have a single port tcp/udp open for both incoming or outgoing connection?08:15
val0ardchoille type netstat in your konsole and go to a webpage08:16
TheAlienhello can someone help me on getting adept to work?08:16
val0ardchoille the last 5 numbers in the local address i believe are ports that you communicate over08:17
ardchoilleval0: I've done extensive testing and there are no open ports on my machine.08:17
fdovingval0: netstat doesn't have anything to do with firewalling, it simply says which ports applications are using, they can be firewalled and showing in netstat at the same time.08:17
val0fdoving you could be totally right08:17
ardchoilleTheAlien: Please explain the problem youa re having08:18
fdoving"doesn't have anything to do.. " might not be exactly true.. but it's close :)08:18
val0fdoving but you believe that you can have 0 open ports for both incoming and outgoing and still communicate?08:18
TheAlienmy adept doesn't have any options like search08:18
TheAlienpackages are greyed out and I cant select them08:19
fdovingval0: no. most people talk about "open ports" as the incoming ones.08:19
val0maybe something like nmap is a better option08:19
TheAliendoes anyone know how to get adept to work?08:20
val0fdoving that's right, but if you scroll a little up you'll see that ardchoille says that he has 0 open ports both for incoming and outgoing connections08:20
val0fdoving and that's hard to believe08:20
oktocan't edit the login manager module in sytemsettings-kde408:23
Agent_bobwouldn't it save a lot of hd space if we all did   sudo rm -r /usr/share/icons08:23
okto"Administrator mode" is not is not available08:23
ardchoilleokto: support for kde4 is in #kubuntu-kde408:23
jason__hey all08:23
jason__im just checking that i can get irc to work08:24
Agent_bobyou did.  :)08:24
ibouhi08:25
AshexWhenver I plug in a removable drive, I get two prompts08:25
AshexThe first one, when I click it, will mount the drive as root08:25
Ashexthe second one will mount is as a regular user08:25
jason__im trying to run syslinux anyone know anything about it, or point me in the direction of a how to website08:25
AshexAnyone else experiencing this? And is there any way to make it stop other then disabling it?08:25
iboui'm trying to convert wma to wav with soundkonverter but it doesn't work. Do i need a wav encoder ? (i already have a wma decoder)08:26
oktoardchoille: i tried..no body answers08:29
Ashexibou, install wavpack08:29
AshexOkay, here's a fun little update to the problem08:30
AshexThe first prompt not only mounts as root08:30
ardchoilleokto: Well, keep trying, that's the official support avenue for kde408:30
Ashexbut load delphin as root, no password prompt08:30
ibouAshex: thanks08:30
Agent_bobsudo -k and try it Ashex08:31
Agent_bobsorry   -K08:31
AshexAgent_bob, it does this on its own08:31
fdovingAshex: 'sudo killall -u root -- kded'08:31
Agent_bobAshex sudo -K   will remove the users "timestamp"  and should then require the password before any root action is taken.08:32
AshexAgent_bob, I know about the timeout, I haven't run anything with sudo for a good couple hours08:33
Ashexlemme test it real quick08:33
Agent_bobi only asked you to test that to prove whether it was using sudo or a reall security hole.08:33
Ashexgotcha08:33
fdovingAshex: so, the command i gave you will kill the kded daemon which again is loading the mediamanager, it is all running as background processes because you probably executed konqueror or something as root.08:33
fdovingAshex: so what you see if you run 'ps aux|grep kded' is multiple kded instances, some running as root. those will need to go away.08:34
Ashexgotcha08:34
AshexI did see one instance "kded [kdeinit] --new-startup" when I did a grep for kded08:35
fdovingyeah, you can actually use 'sudo dcop kded kded quit', nicer than killall.08:35
khaije1whats the kde dev channel please?08:35
fdovingmaybe you need a 'sudo -H dcop kded kded quit'08:35
fdovingkhaije1: #kde-devel08:35
Ashexhmm08:36
Ashexlooks like I'm only getting one prompt now08:36
khaije1thx fdoving :-[08:36
AshexI'll have to reboot to confirm that's what it was. This has been happening for a week or so with reboots08:37
Ellementquestion: had to do manual install of ati driver. when i did sudo shutdown -r now. kubuntu isnt startting instead says Kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot... ubuntu 7.10 linux tty1  linux login ....what do i do???????08:37
fdovingAshex: oh, that sounds weird, roots kded should not be spawned after reboots.08:37
AshexIf it reoccurs I'll jump back in here08:37
Ashexyeah, it's a bit fishy08:37
fdovinghang on.08:37
AshexEllement, looks like the driver didn't install properly, you'll need to reconfigure xserver-xorg to load with the default drivers08:38
AshexEllement, login to the terminal and run "sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg"08:38
AshexI need to remember the switch that only has you configure the driver :/08:39
Agent_bob-phigh08:39
fdovingAshex: you can disable the kded services, for root. 'kdesu systemsettings' -> advanced [tab] -> service manager -> untick the boxes on the left in the 'use' column.08:39
fdovingAshex: you can safely disable all for root.08:39
Agent_bobAshex p for priority     high and low08:40
fdovingAshex: if you're not rebooting you can also hit the 'stop' button for each of them.08:40
fdovingAshex: but if you're rebooting you don't need to do that.08:40
Ellementashex: says dpkg:unknown option --reconfigure08:41
fdovingEllement: it's a separate command 'dpkg-reconfigure'08:41
Agent_bobEllement it's   dpkg-reconfigure -p<high|low> xserver-xorg08:41
Ellementsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:41
Ellementyup thanks08:41
Ashexfdoving, hmm, I'll have to poke at it a little, I kinda like the timeout for running sudo and kdesu08:42
Ellementashex: am i going to have to autodected video hardware?08:42
Ellement or select xserver and driver myself?08:42
oktothe edit tab in amarok is not refreshing08:42
AshexEllement, accept the defaults for everything, when you get to the driver, select ati08:42
oktoif you click it it hangs and artwork disappear08:42
Agent_bobEllement depends on the -p08:42
* Ashex thinks that's the default one, otherwise just use vesa08:43
Ellementso select yes to autodetec?08:43
AshexEllement, yeah08:43
AshexI really need to come back in here and help people. I've gotten rusty08:43
Ashexcan't even tell someone how to configure xserver-xorg :/08:43
Ellementashex: should i pick xserver driver as fglrx, intel or ati? i currently have my two lcds plugged into ati but also have intel onbaord08:44
Agent_bobit only takes about one release to loooose your tough08:44
AshexEllement, ati08:44
AshexHeh08:44
AshexI'm on the kubuntu-devel list though, so I read up on what's going on with that at least :/08:45
Ellementashex: weird, i picked ati and now it says "identifier for your video card: intel corp 82865G integreated graphics controller08:45
AshexEllement, that's rather odd. It may have just detected the onboard video adapter08:46
Ellementeven tho nothings plugged into it08:46
Ellementbugger08:47
Ashex(stop me if I'm wrong) It shouldn't do anything bad, in the xorg.conf it'll just label the device as that. Otherwise it will fill in the rest of the relevant info according to the detected attached monitor08:47
Ellementashex: ok08:48
AshexEllement, if you used the ati binary installer to setup the xorg.conf, it should have created a backup08:50
Ashexso, if you cd to /etc/X1108:51
Ashexthere should be multiple xorg.conf files, one would probably be called something like xorg.conf.2007101822225508:51
Ashexthe number being the date and time it was created08:51
Ashexif this doesn't work, look for the oldest one or the one around the time you tried installing the ati driver and do a sudo cp xorg.conf.20071018222255 xorg.conf08:52
Malawardoes Kubuntu use Dolphin with KDE?08:52
AshexMalawar, gutsy does08:52
Malawaryay08:52
Malawarmore points for kubuntu.08:52
Agent_bobi wonder how serious it is when packages can't be authenticated ?08:53
Malawarmain packages or packages out of a 3rd party repository?08:54
Malawarbecause one of those would probably be pretty serious.08:54
Agent_bobmain08:54
Ashexif it's 3rd party, it means you need to grab the gpg key for it and auth it08:54
Ashexwhat package is it?08:54
Agent_bobnone of mine can be08:55
AshexI personally don't like Dolphin that much08:55
AshexThe two sidebars annoys the crap out of me08:55
Agent_bobi'm using a local package cache and symlinks in /var/cache/apt/archives08:55
Agent_bobwhich by the way.  you can't use the rm command to remove in a normal fasion08:56
Agent_bob-su: /bin/rm: Argument list too long08:56
Malawarman, i hate it when that happens :P08:56
Agent_bobheh. yeah.08:57
Malawaris that a limitation on rm or your shell, i wonder?08:57
Agent_bobrm08:57
fdovingyou can probably do a for loop.08:57
fdovingfor i in *.deb;do rm $i;done08:57
Malawaror use xargs and ls08:58
Agent_bobfdoving yeah  that works fine.   just can't use venella rm08:58
Agent_boband to prove that it's the rm and not the shell  "echo /var/cache/apt/archives/* "   works08:58
AshexAnyone remember what the road map was for dolphin?09:00
earl_Anyone know a lot about setting up a webcam? please don't send me to the wiki page because i've already looked at it09:00
Ashexearl_, you check out the spcx drivers?09:01
earl_i dont know how to do that09:01
earl_according to the logitech website, my camera is supported using the "quickcam" driver09:01
earl_046d:08f5 Logitech, Inc.09:02
earl_lsusb reports that09:02
Ashexearl_, http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/09:03
earl_for the record09:04
earl_i tried using the easycam utility09:04
earl_it reported that everything worked correctly, even though nothing worked correctly09:04
AshexI usually test with the camstreams app09:04
earl_also it doesnt seem like my USB ID is listed on the page you linked me09:05
earl_i'll try this though09:08
earl_it says the following is a requirement09:09
earl_Kernel source for the kernel you are running. The symbolic link /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build should point to the source directory.09:09
earl_what does that mean?09:09
J-MGhell09:12
J-MGo09:12
Ashexearl, install the kernel headers09:12
J-MGi have a pretty simple question: how do i restart a process?09:12
earl_before i try that what do you think of this: http://home.mag.cx/messenger/09:13
earl_that actually lists my camera's usb ID, and lists it by name...09:13
Ashexgive that one a shot09:13
AshexI just did a search and pointed to the first relevant result09:14
Ashexinstall linux-headers-generic09:14
earl_give the one i found a shot, you mean?09:14
noaXesswhat happend is i stop avahi-deamon?09:14
J-MGhelp: how to restart a process?09:15
earl_okay the one i found works09:15
earl_sweet.09:15
intelikeyit's a little odd to me that my root login will accept any login name, and still sets up root user...09:16
intelikeythe only thing it wont accept is a blank name09:16
jpahi all09:17
jpawhere could I find information about ATI Radeon mobility X1200 support in Kubuntu ?09:18
intelikey!nv | jpa09:18
ubotujpa: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:18
jpathx but "System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager in Ubuntu ." will be hard, X doesnt start09:19
Ellementashex: thanks for the help b4, got back into kubuntu.09:20
ibouhow can easytag handle wav format ?09:20
AshexEllement, no problem09:21
Ashexibou, I don't think wav supports tagging09:21
intelikeyjpa maybe change /etc/X11/xorg.conf line ***Driver          "ati"***      to read  ***Driver          "vesa"***     and   startx09:21
Ellementashex: ati catylist controller is installed but when i open it it says no driver. so am going to have to do manual ati driver setup again. :( i wish restricted drivers would work09:22
AshexEllement, yeah, the restricted drivers broke a few times for me when I did it09:22
ibouAshex: thanks09:22
AshexEllement, install the restricted-modules09:23
AshexEllement, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules09:23
ibouif i encode in ogg with 100 in quality do i lose quality from audio cd ?09:23
intelikeyoh no.  i'm now running an area fifty one kernel09:24
Ellementok ahsex09:24
Ashexibou, yes09:25
Ashexibou, encode in flac09:25
Ashexlossless with tagging09:25
ibouAshex: sweet09:26
ibouAshex: thanks09:26
Ashexibou, no problem09:26
Ellementashex: installed restricted-modules but restricted drives still dont come up09:26
Ashexhmm09:27
Ashexwell, restricted-modules are required when running ati/nvidia driver, so that may have been what was causing X to break09:27
pinipOnWhen somebody has the time, and if feels like, i have some questions.09:28
iboui use an inspiron 1520 from dell and i can't suspend/hibernate. Is there a way to fix it ?09:28
Ellementi wish someone could take control of pc for me, i suck at this09:29
pinipOnibou> What graphic card do you have?09:29
jpaintelikey: nice tip ;) I'll try it09:33
iboupinipOn: geforce 8600  GT09:33
iboupinipOn: i was looking for it09:34
iboupinipOn: i have a laptop09:34
pinipOnibou: what exactly happens when you request the suspend?09:34
iboupinipOn: the screen become black but the pc doesnt shut down09:35
iboupinipOn: i have an integrated webcam...09:37
pinipOnhttp://boulderjams.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/ubuntu-dell-suspend-fix/09:37
pinipOnIts the graphic card09:37
khaije1has anyone here built the kmymoney cvs head, i have a question about the chart support...09:37
tzdi need help with formatting an attached usb-drive in gutsy please?09:38
ibouwhere to find acpii-support ?09:42
intelikeytzd qt/g/parted09:43
tzdintelikey: i would like to do it via the command "fdformat" since I need to do it for my course. Is that possible in kubuntu?09:44
intelikeytzd mkfs.<fstype> /dev/<device_node>09:44
intelikeydevice node is probably something like   sda    sdb1   or something along that line.09:45
tzdintelikey: ah so it's a completely different command? fstype is filesystem such as vfat?09:45
intelikey!tab | tzd09:46
ubotutzd: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.09:46
pinipOnxD09:46
intelikeytzd yes.  use the tab key for the list of installed formats09:46
tzdintelikey: right, thanks for your help:) I'll give it a try immediately!09:46
intelikeytzd two common mistakes.   umount it first   and  format as root.09:47
tzdintelikey: exellent tip. I was just about to try it as user ;P09:47
intelikeyexample:   sudo umount /dev/sdt4 ;sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdt409:48
iboupinipOn: i try the fix...09:49
tzdintelikey: worked like a charm! Thanks a lot :) This command formats the drive and installs a new fs in one go right? There's no other command to just format the drive?09:52
intelikeymakes a new file system on the device09:52
intelikeyif you want disk intergerty testing you can add   -c09:53
tzdintelikey: ok, thanks once again!09:53
intelikeytzd rule of thumb.   any new command you learn   first have a look at it's man page to see what it does and how.    man mkfs.vfat09:54
intelikeyi.e.   man man09:54
tzdah yeah, i know of the man pages... i just need to get into the whole proceduare of checking them :/ I tend to go to the shorter --help cmd09:55
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gladierhey guys - i need a hand getting my scsi controller (aic7xxx for a 19160 adaptec) to run sync  opposed to async09:56
intelikeytzd whild --help may give a good list of switches,   the descriptive paragraph in the man page is there for a purpose09:56
Ashexwhat's a quick and dirty way to to output the results of fine to a image convert app?09:56
AshexI want to convert all the folder.jpg to folder.png so that it will replace the folder icons09:57
Ashexs/fine/find09:57
intelikeyAshex use finds -exec switch09:58
tzdintelikey: ok, will be a more frrequent user of the manuals from now on:) Just to get this straight with the "fdformat" command... This command does not work in (k)ubuntu?09:58
Ashexoh yeah...09:58
Ellementin manual ati driver tut is says Uninstall previous fglrx: Using Synaptic, completely remove any packages containing "fglrx" in their name.  how do i do this?09:58
AshexI keep forgetting it has that09:58
intelikeytzd fdformat should work in any linux it's installed in09:59
intelikeytzd point is that it is probably a script that calls mkfs anyway09:59
tzdintelikey: oh alright! I just thought it was strange that fdformat wouldn't work for me when mkfs worked10:01
AshexEllement, search for fglrx and select and remove the ones found10:01
ibouhi10:01
intelikeytzd "fd"format is made for "fd" devices... if you have the binary "fdformat"   that might be why it didn't work on an sd device10:02
* intelikey doesn't know of any new computers that have fd devices anymore10:03
tzdintelikey: I'm not following you I'm afraid. What do you mean by "binary fdformat" please? Is it just because i use fat instead of ext3 on my usb drive that it wont work?10:04
Ellementthsnkd ashex10:04
intelikeytzd as opposed to a script fdformat10:04
ardchoille/disconnect:/quit10:05
ardchoilleoops, sorry10:05
intelikeytzd not all the files in /usr/bin are binary files  some are symbolic links and some are scripts10:05
intelikeyor /bin or */sbin  for that matter10:06
Ashexwell, I'm out10:07
Ashex2am and I have class at 9:3010:07
intelikeyfor example       for Q in /bin/z* ;do file $Q ;done10:07
intelikeylook at how many scripts that finds.   and one could (as root of course) edit any one of those with any test editor10:08
tzdintelikey: ah okey, i'm slowly getting it :) Thanks! There's just one thing that i don't get... what is the difference between a "fd" and a "sd" device? Or perhaps more importantly: what is a "fd" device?10:12
earl_i have a usb microphone. how can i use it in kubuntu?10:12
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altereogjava won't run with frickelfox10:16
altereogcrap10:16
intelikeytzd fd is the linux shorthand for floppy disk    the old internal bus that all your 'fd' devices hooked into is the   fd device    ls /dev/fd*     the sd device is the scsi bus   which the kernel is using for usb interfaces also10:18
intelikeyls /dev/ds*10:18
intelikeytzd every peace of hardware in the system is a device in /dev/ <<< the device dirrectory10:19
ActionParsniphey all10:19
tzdintelikey: aah yeah floppys... completely forgot about those. Now everything is shining clear over here! Thanks a bunch for your time and help, finally get it :)10:19
intelikeytzd welcome.10:19
ActionParsniptzd, floppys kick ass :)10:19
tzdActionParsnip: hehe yeeeah, old school! ^^10:19
ActionParsniptzd, I've got a tonne of tools on floppys. Most of which are now on the ultimate boot cd10:20
tzdActionParsnip: hehe sweet :)10:20
ActionParsniptzd: ever install Win95 from floppy :(10:21
* intelikey wants a new command inturpretor for grub. grub is an os that loads other os's10:21
intelikeyActionParsnip i'v installed both win95 and linux from floppies10:22
tzdthe complete OS:es from floppy??10:22
intelikeyyes10:22
tzdintelikey: that's impressive :) How long did that take? ;)10:22
ActionParsnipintelikey, what distro came on floppys?10:23
intelikeywin95-A takes 17 disks10:23
intelikeyActionParsnip slackware can still be installed from floppies10:23
ActionParsnipintelikey, how many is it?10:23
ActionParsnipintelikey, or are you talking a www install?10:24
intelikeytzd not too long.  hour maybe hour and an half10:24
tzdintelikey: that's not bad actually... i was expecting at least 3-4 hours10:24
intelikeyActionParsnip no full floppy install.   and i dont recall the number   seems like i used 14  on slakware 5.0  the non-release release10:25
ActionParsnipintelikey, nice. mind you, www back in the day with 28800 baud modem with the flakiest connection ever10:25
intelikeythere are still linux distro's around on one and two floppy disks.   they are minimalest tho10:26
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ActionParsnipintelikey, true. CLI only ones10:27
* intelikey uses cli only10:27
intelikeyhavent started xorg in days10:27
* ActionParsnip uses console more than gui10:27
ActionParsnipintelikey, nice10:27
ActionParsnipintelikey, not a movie watcher on your system. don't you need x for web browsing?10:29
ardchoilleActionParsnip: lynx, links, elinks, w3c ;)10:29
intelikey"GUI isn't that the vidio game from the nineties?"10:29
intelikeyActionParsnip i also watch vidios in the console    vlc + svgalibs10:29
ActionParsnipardchoille, what about youtube / image viewing etc10:30
ardchoilleActionParsnip: No idea10:31
ActionParsnipintelikey, really. thats pretty cool :)10:31
intelikeyActionParsnip links2 -g + svgalibs   full graphic browsing in the console10:31
intelikeywell may be an over statement to say "full graphics" no flash support.   but it does the pictures from png/jpg just fine.10:32
ActionParsnipintelikey, if its possible why bother with x at all! thats awesome10:32
intelikeyActionParsnip because the avarage ubuntu user wants everything to be eyecandy and just work     or so canonical seems to think.10:33
intelikeyi use ubuntu distro because they offer shipit, and i'm on dialup and im cheep.10:34
intelikeyi use linux becaues it's free as in speach.   FOSS !10:34
ActionParsnipintelikey, do does links2 -g use x libraries?10:34
alteregoliohow can i reenable my mouse10:34
alteregolioafter a hardy update i can't move my mouse10:35
ActionParsnipintelikey, I use it so I cant get viri10:35
alteregoliowhats wrong10:35
alteregoliois there a modprobe command to reactivate mosues10:35
intelikeyActionParsnip it can use either svgalibs or kernel frame buffering    or of course the xorg if you use it within x10:35
Lynourealteregolio: hardy stuff is still on #ubuntu+1 (and maybe #kubuntu+1)10:35
ActionParsnipintelikey, is it impossible to get flash support in links2 -g ?10:36
intelikeyalteregolio what happened to the mouse ?     and there is a module that might help   psmouse  if it's ps210:36
intelikeyActionParsnip i don't know.  i think just about as highly of flash as i do of windows.   don't ask.10:37
ActionParsnipintelikey, but so much content is flash based :(10:38
intelikeyi haven't missed it.10:38
ActionParsnipintelikey, fair point10:38
intelikeyso many games all run in windows.  but i haven't missed them either.10:39
ActionParsnipintelikey, I'm not a gamer either (well maybe some emulators)10:40
ActionParsnipintelikey, can zsnes be ran at CLI only??10:40
intelikeyi would think so.  but i would have to do some testing to confirm that.10:40
ActionParsnipintelikey, I will investigate :)10:41
ActionParsnipintelikey, just getting a virtualbox for kubuntu at work cos I have large stretches where i do nothing10:42
intelikeysounds like a boring job10:43
intelikey:)10:43
ActionParsnipintelikey, i keep citrix servers and virtual servers running10:44
ActionParsnipits a bit boring but it pays for the beer10:44
intelikey:)10:45
intelikeydes quatro10:45
* ActionParsnip is confused10:48
jpatrick!ot10:48
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:48
ActionParsnipwell that killed the room10:51
Jucatoand again, good :)10:51
ActionParsnipwhy good10:52
ActionParsnip??10:52
ardchoille!guidelines10:52
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:52
intelikeythe room is dead.    long live the room!        living room ?10:53
Riskbreakerso about how long before GK10:54
Riskbreakererr10:54
Riskbreakerbefore GTK apps dont look like hell in KDE410:54
intelikey6 years three months two days and an houre10:55
Riskbreakeri'll set my alarm clock10:55
intelikey:)10:55
JucatoRiskbreaker: when the author of the gtk-qt-engine finishes creating an engine for qt410:55
ActionParsnipintelikey, sounds like donnie darko :D10:55
ardchoilleRiskbreaker: I installed these packages and it seemed to help quite a lot with that issue: gtk-engines-qtpixmap gtk2-engines-qtpixmap gtk2-engines10:55
intelikeyActionParsnip sorry, i don't know him.10:56
ActionParsnipintelikey, no, the film10:56
pyrotixgraargh. does anyone know how to move a bunch of cells in oo.org calc to a table in writer? Aid an HS student pulling an all-nighter trying (possibly vainly) to finish an assignment in time10:57
pyrotixdragging/pasting puts the stuff in its own object10:57
Riskbreakerlet's give that a shot then10:57
ActionParsnippyrotix, try pasting to kate/kwrite. It might sort it out :D10:57
Riskbreakerno dice, ardchoille, still look ugly10:58
ardchoilleRiskbreaker: Also, tweak the GTK Styles setting in systemsettings > Appearance > GTK Styles and Fonts10:58
Riskbreakerk10:58
ardchoilleRiskbreaker: "Use my KDE style in GTK applications"10:59
merino#palencia10:59
Riskbreakerardchoille: i know what you're talking about in KDE3, but its not showing up in KDE410:59
Riskbreakerthere's no GTK Styles/fonts tab11:00
ardchoilleRiskbreaker: You're in the wrong channel for kde4 support, join #kubuntu-kde411:00
Riskbreakermy bad11:00
intelikeyanother broken package http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d4eefe2f1  note that openoffice.org-l10n-en-us is depending on....  and it should have been removed along with xorg and all the other xorg related stuff11:00
intelikeyi wonder why things that depend on xorg don't depend on xorg so that when xorg leaves they will be pulled too   ?11:01
pyrotixActionParsnip: puts it into plaintext. Not exactly what I wanted but ty, good enough11:03
Oleanderquestion: want to install kubuntu again but i wanna get a good video card b4 i do it cuz last time i had sooo much trouble. whatsa good hassle free video card good for beryl and compiz11:03
ActionParsnippyrotix, cool man11:04
RiskbreakerOleander: as far as i know the best way to go is actually intel integrated11:04
ActionParsnipOleander, get a mid range geforce then :)11:04
intelikeyi may disapear   i just issued the order to remove perl* from this system.    perl-base is an essential package    'Yes, do as I say!' i said....  :)11:04
ardchoilleOleander: Check out this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport11:04
Oleanderthanks11:04
ardchoilleOleander: I usually consult then before shopping for hw11:05
Oleanderyeh11:05
Oleanderardchoille: i currently have ati 9200 pro RV28011:07
jussi01Oleander: that ati card should work fine with compiz as it uses the open source drivers11:08
ardchoilleOleander: That card is listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti11:08
* jussi01 had the 9250 earlier11:08
Oleanderyeh i know but i couldnt for the life of me install the drivers on kubuntu gutsy 7.1011:08
* ActionParsnip has integrated nvidia 6250 :)11:08
Riskbreakeryeah11:08
Riskbreakerthats why you had a problem11:08
jussi01Oleander: it installs them automatically11:09
Riskbreakerright11:09
Riskbreakerwith that card you should have compiz out of the box11:09
ardchoilleRiskbreaker: Not in kubuntu11:09
Oleanderjussi01: i have onbaord graphics card also and when i did install i had to do it on onbaord. so when i went into kubuntu i couldnt disable it and get my two screens working primary/seconddary at all11:10
Riskbreakerwell shouldnt it be as simple as like apt-get install compiz?11:10
ardchoille!compiz11:10
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion11:10
Oleanderits good to know my ati installs auto but i couldnt do dual screens without my res going to the crap heap11:10
jussi01!dualhead | Oleander11:11
ubotuOleander: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama11:11
Oleanderjussi01:  howcome when entered fglrxinfo my ati driver didnt come up?11:13
jussi01Oleander: that card doesnt use fglrx11:13
Oleanderoh god i wish u were online earlier :P ive been going crazy with this.11:14
jussi01Oleander: iirc it uses the "radeon" or "ati" driver11:14
Oleanderiirc?11:15
jussi01if i remember correctly11:15
Oleanderah11:15
Oleanderso i dont need to install ati catalyst controller then or any drivers it wil all be automatic?11:16
jussi01Oleander: it should just all be installed out of the box when you install kubunut11:16
Oleanderok11:16
ashishLAN notifier on taskbar not working??? Can Anybody help11:16
Oleanderwhats werid is that in the monitor settings where it lists ur hw, its says ati raedon (flgrx)11:17
jussi01Oleander: what happens when you type: glxgears in the terminal?11:18
Oleanderi'm on win atm so cant check11:18
tzdhow do i mount an external usb flash memory in konsole please? I've tried with "mount -t vfat /dev/sde1 /media/sde1" and "mount -t vfat /dev/sde1 /media/sde1" but none of them works...11:19
Oleanderill boot brb11:19
Agent_bobtzd is it partitioned ?  it may just be sde   the number being the partition number.     cat /proc/partitions   might help.11:21
Agent_bobtzd usually the mount error code will help debug why it didn't work.  although it can be misleading  i.e. "you must supply a file system type"  usually means that you selected the wrong device node.11:22
tzdAgent_bob: should be. Earlier today i got some help to format it via: mkfs.vfat /dev/sde1 . The error code i received was that the mount point didn't exist. For example: mount -t vfat /dev/sde1 /media/sdf2 where /media/sdf2 didn't exist11:24
tzdAgent_bob:  when using the : cat /proc/partitions command i can see this:  8    65    3992135 sde1 so i guess im using the partition number?11:25
Agent_bobtzd that was me.   (intelikey)    usb devices change addressing when you unplug/replug them.   find the device and you should be able to    sudo mount /dev/sd?1 /mnt        with no args.11:25
Agent_bobtzd ok should be sde111:26
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Agent_bobtzd in anticipation,  vfat has no permissions bits  so mount uses a psyudo permissions bit for the entire mount.   man mount  /FILESYSTEM SPECIFIC MOUNT OPTIONS     but in short   as root    mount /dev/sde1 /mnt -o dmask=000,fmask=111     will probably be to your liking11:28
tzdAgent_bob: ah got it once again. Thank You :) I got the wrong destination dir. when using your /mnt everything worked!11:28
Agent_bobtzd not uncommon at all.    welcome.11:29
Agent_bobtzd you can change the mounted psyudo permission with this     sudo mount -o remount,dmask=000,fmask=111,rw /mnt11:30
tzdAgent_bob: this might be a long shot but perhaps you know why i can't copy/move files within my NTFS hdd when trying with the built in command in Amarok (Move files to collection...)?11:31
Agent_bob!ntfs | tzd11:32
ubotutzd: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE11:32
Agent_bob!ntfs-3g | tzd11:32
ubotutzd: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions11:32
tzdAgent_bob: the last bit is still a bit too advanced for me ;) I think the /mnt cmd will do for now at least :)11:32
Agent_bobtzd in short    the permission is wrong.    the more precise answer is above  ^11:33
tzdAgent_bob: but hmm i can create folders etc. on my ntfs drive when i go there via dolphin?11:33
Agent_bobtzd understand groups ?11:36
tzdAgent_bob: not really, just had a quick look at access rights 2 nights ago11:37
tzdAgent_bob: according to my NTFS drive owner and groups has both read and write rights11:38
tzdAgent_bob: the only thing i can think of is that Amarok is classified as "Other" which doesnt have any rights to my ntfs drive?11:38
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stefan__when there is an old ssh session running how can I kill the old session?11:39
Agent_bobpermissions are devided into three major qualifications,   one  owner       two group      three  world(or everybody else)       if you own an inode the owner permissions apply,  if you do not own but are a member of the group  then the group perms apply   if neither of the preceeding apply then the world perms apply     the permissions are   rwx   as an octet, or three digit binary mark   and there are three(well actually f11:41
Agent_bobfor each inode     except on an fs that doesn't support them  like ntfs and vfat11:42
Agent_bobls -l inode_name_here   will list them.11:42
mcquaidi normally have the screensaver disabled, however once i lock my screen and unlock it the monitor powers down after about 10 minutes11:42
mcquaidhow do i disable that once i unlock the screen?11:42
mcquaidi checked the screensaver and it's off11:43
seezerstefan__: look for the correct session (i do that via `w`). then `ps aux | grep pts\/2 | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill` for the session at pts/211:43
mcquaidand power mgmt appears to be off as well11:43
Agent_bob-rwxrwxrwx 1 greg root 52 Jan 17 04:44 testing  <<< example.   all permissions on that inode are set 1 so it is owner read write execute   group read write execute   other read write execute11:43
Agent_bobtzd are you following so far ?11:44
tzdAgent_bob: sorry missed that you wrote... will have a look straight away :) Thanks11:44
stefan__seezer: ok I will try it, I have to go to antother administration machine, moment11:44
mcquaidyes i just verified power mgmt and screen saver is off, so what's powering down my monitor?11:45
Agent_bobtzd ok. i'll stop trying to explain and just stick to answering questions.   ;/11:45
seezerstefan__: better just do `ps aux | grep pts\/2` and kill by hand if you're unsure11:45
Agent_bobmcquaid acpi ?   bios settings ?11:46
seezerstefan__: i'm out for some foot for a few minutes11:46
ibou_i have crypted wma in my mit ?usic. How to decrypt11:46
mcquaidwell, prior to locking the screen the monitor never powers down so it's definitely not a bios setting11:46
seezerheh. s,foot,food,11:46
ibou_i have crypted wma in my music. How to decrypt it ?11:46
mcquaidit's something that locking the screen triggers11:46
Agent_bob!restricted11:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:47
tzdAgent_bob:  yes I get it :) It's my fault not being clear with my knowledge... i have just started a Linux course and recently i read about the various access rights but I'm not sure how to create groups and i don't get it why i can create folders and files on my ntfs hdd with my current user when the same user cant copy/move files within Amarok with that built in command?11:48
Oleanderjussi01: so on my video card ati 9200 it wont automatically go dual screen ill have to configure with 3rd party sw?11:51
Agent_bobtzd "i don't get it why i can..."  check the groups permissions bit   the file manager is using your user group i'm sure  but the amarok may not be.     that would be my guess on that.11:51
Agent_bobtzd thus changing the dmask/fmask for the fs will allow everything to access inodes on the device11:52
Agent_bobit's all in the mount opetions.11:52
tzdAgent_bob:  yes that's perhaps what i'm guessing as well... could amarok be included as the 3rd access type (Other)? If that's the case then I'll just have to change the option from "Prohibited" to "Allow read and write" right?11:53
Agent_bobtzd no i don't think so. but, you can change the perms tho.   or you could change the owner to you    either way you gain full access11:55
Agent_bobtzd issue     mount       no arguments at all.   and the line that mentions the fs in question paste in here    (only one line plese)11:56
ActionParsniphey all11:57
ActionParsnipjust found this http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yJn4eUpWnGw&feature=related11:57
ActionParsniphahahaha11:57
tzdAgent_bob: /dev/sdb5 on /media/sdb5 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)11:59
OleanderActionParsnip: which is better for first time kubuntu user, beryl or compiz?12:00
ActionParsnipOleander, compiz imho12:00
Oleanderok cool thanks12:00
ActionParsnipOleander, tbh both are good :)12:01
Agent_bobhmm ,default_permissions,   there's your problem.   while i'm not well versed on fuse mounts  i think the umask=000   will work12:01
OleanderActionParsnip: they both pretty much do the same thing then?12:01
Agent_bobtzd test this    sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /dev/sdb5 /media/sdb512:01
ActionParsnipOleander, kinda yeah. do some googling ;)12:02
Oleanderokies :)12:02
Agent_bobtzd did it return any error ?12:03
tzdAgent_bob:  no errors, just about to see if it helped (in amarok now)12:04
Agent_bobk12:04
Agent_bobi'll wait12:04
Agent_bobi'm about to reboot and see what all i broke by removing python* perl*  from this system.12:05
ardchoilleIn konqueror, how do I setup a new user agent definition?12:06
tzdAgent_bob: it didn't work I'm afraid. Got the same error within Amarok when trying12:06
ibou__see you later12:07
tzdAgent_bob: hmm let me try one thing.... I think I'm the issue here :(12:07
Agent_bobtzd ummm ok that must be an amarok issue   and seeing that i don't use it.  i'll have to defer you to ardchoille  or Jucato12:07
jussi01Oleander: sorry, just got back12:07
ardchoilleI've never used amarok, xmms here :)12:07
Agent_bobor jussi01   ^12:08
jussi01Oleander: just reading back, compiz has merged with beryl - see !compiz12:08
trixonDoes anyone here use citrix client in kubuntu?12:09
intelikeywell there is no ssh without perl    maybe i could build an ssh without perl ???12:11
Oleanderjussi01: reinstalled kubuntu while u were away so had clean slate to work off12:11
Greeneryis there traceroute command line?12:11
intelikeyor hack a working ssh into this perl-less system...12:11
intelikeyGreenery tracepath12:12
Greeneryintelikey: tracepath <ip address> ?12:12
jussi01Oleander: cool12:12
Oleanderjust rebooting now12:12
intelikeyGreenery actually there is also traceroute if you install it.  but yes tracepath works well12:12
jussi01Oleander: so fire away with those questions ... :)12:12
Greeneryok thanks12:12
BikerpeterHello12:13
BikerpeterI would like to ask 1 question (German or English?)12:14
JucatoEnglish in here, German in #kubuntu-de12:14
BikerpeterI installed KDE 4 with Kubuntu 7.1012:14
Jucatooh I forgot to add #kubuntu-kde4 for KDE 4 questions :)12:14
* Jucato tries to remember that....12:15
Bikerpeterthanks for this info I will join that channel     have a good time12:15
Oleanderjussi01: werid i type in my pw to get admin when i'm in monitor settings and nothing happens.12:15
Bikerpeterquit12:15
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tzdintelikey: nothing worked so i guess it's amarok, although the permissions doesn't seem to change even after the umask cmd? At least when i had a look in the gui12:20
Oleanderjussi01: ok in my monitor hw i have intel as primary, ati and secondary and vesa as unused.12:21
intelikeytzd yeah you'll need someone else on the amarok issue.12:25
tzdintelikey: alright! Anyway, thanks for all your help! Highly appreciated :)12:26
ActionParsniphi all12:26
ActionParsnipmy turn to ask now :)12:26
ActionParsnipjust install kde4 but how canI remove the kde3 stuff please :D12:26
sirbobbyukdoes anyone else have problems connect to their Yahoo mail12:28
ActionParsnipsirbobbyuk, with what application?12:28
sirbobbyukfirefox12:28
ActionParsnipsirbobbyuk, so you are going to mail.yahoo.com ?12:29
sirbobbyuki have just pinged the servers and there was no reply12:29
sirbobbyukyes12:29
sirbobbyukthe ping sent around 460 packs of data but none was received12:30
ActionParsnipsirbobbyuk, try configuring kmail / thunderbird to get the mail via POP12:30
sirbobbyukok does that mean i will have to get the smtp and pop details12:31
intelikeytzd welcome12:31
ActionParsnipsirbobbyuk, yeah but theres a million walkthroughs online :)12:32
ActionParsnipHow can I remove KDE3 stuff now I have updated to KDE4 please12:32
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sirbobbyukyeah ive noticed12:32
intelikeywhat is this error telling me "Privilege separation user sshd does not exist"  ?12:33
sirbobbyuki did try and fined anything to kick the server....but then i thought would have to have password logon12:33
intelikeythat there needs to be an sshd user account ?12:33
sirbobbyukdumb thought i know12:34
JucatoActionParsnip: You don't really want to do that unless you're willing to use an incomplete desktop. (complete if you consider games and edu apps as your only uses)12:34
ActionParsnipJucato, its a virtual machine so I don't care. I'm just playing til I commit to my main system12:35
EduardoI Need setup my kubuntu to access my windows network to be a workstation somebody can ehlp me???12:35
ActionParsnipJucato, do you know the command/s please or a HOWTO12:35
JucatoActionParsnip: theoretically, removing kdelibs4c2a should do that12:35
ActionParsnipJucato, and that will remove kde3?12:36
Jucatoit will also remove amarok, kaffeine, etc... anything that uses kde312:37
ActionParsnipJucato, doing it now12:38
ActionParsnipJucato, cheers man12:38
ActionParsnipJucato, backed up my virtual disk (10Gb) so its all fun and games :)12:38
Jucatoheh12:38
Jucatothis might also help: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome12:38
Jucatothe Removes Kubuntu part12:39
OleanderActionParsnip: could u help with dual screens?12:39
ActionParsnip!dualscreen | Oleander12:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dualscreen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:39
Oleanderthanks12:40
Dr_willisaha - I neexd to set up My nvidia dual screen setup also. :) i just have to rember how i did it.12:40
ActionParsnipOleander, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22117412:40
Dr_willisYou using an nvidia card?12:40
ubuntuhi12:40
ActionParsnipJucato, I've been dropped at CLI with no cursor. Do I need to reboot?12:40
Oleanderati raedon 920012:40
JucatoActionParsnip: how/when were you dropped?12:41
EduardoOleander: How you have installed your kubuntu using a ATI video card ??12:42
ActionParsnipi ran sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2a and the x server wanted to end so I said ok and I have some service reports about them starting. a floating cursor and no prompt12:42
Jucatohm... weird... why would X be affected :/12:43
ActionParsnipJucato, the virtual disk is not being ccessed at all12:43
JucatoActionParsnip: try redoing it and use the link I gave instead..12:43
ActionParsnipi'll reboot. willdo man12:43
JucatoActionParsnip: or can you switch to a TTY inside that VM?12:43
intelikeyif i set etc/ssh/sshd_conf  "UsePrivilegeSeparation no"  sshd will start.  but that of course is a security hole but if i set it to "UsePrivilegeSeparation yes"  then i get the error massage "Privilege separation user sshd does not exist"   anyone know why ?12:44
OleanderEduardo: no, because i had an onboard video card, installation would only work if i used that. now once in kubuntu i changed the intel to unused and the ati to primary 1 and secondary 1. at the moment only primary 1 is outputting12:44
ActionParsnipJucato, haha it booted :)12:46
EduardoOleander: I tried install but I havea ATI HD2400 PRO !!! when I try to start the Xserver the Xserver get Stuck12:46
Eduardo:(12:46
ActionParsnipJucato, it didnt do anything, just closed x haha12:47
EduardoIn text mode I cant install the ati driver12:47
Eduardo:(12:47
Oleandereduardo: someone in here an hour ago told me i had a vid card that was auto installed. i didnt have to worry. there was some link with a list of ati cards and my 9200 was on it12:50
spirooTake a look on this Kickoff menu: http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/25441-1.png. Would be awesome if it could be implemented, great organized and easy to access everything. Just some nice, effects, Oxygen theme and icons and there it is ;)12:52
Oleander!COMPIZ12:53
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion12:53
EduardoOleander: I Heard from someone that ATI will open your drivers for linux users12:55
Dr_willisIve heard that befor...... :)12:56
Dr_willisati and nvidia have gotten better.. but they still need to open the drivers up more.12:57
Eduardoits true12:58
Eduardoman I'm very sad with this problem because i can't install the kubuntu on my  computer :(13:00
Oleanderi really wanted kubuntu but this just seems to mcuh hassle getting dual screens to work.13:01
CalZongI have a problem mith the sound. When I want to play a midi file it just plays the first notes and holds, but if i use "timidity mymidifile.mid" in terminal everything works fine13:02
LynoureDr_willis: If they only opened their specs, whether they made open drivers would be irrelevant13:02
EduardoOleander: but i have instaled the ubuntu Its better than me :)13:04
EduardoI have a Supermicro server here for test !!! it have a omboard ati video board and that shit work fine !!!13:06
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enoteewhat do i need to create  a iso image from files13:07
Eduardohow can I do that??13:07
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Richard_BallsI need help with adept/apt13:11
Richard_Balls"There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."13:12
miladenany1 here have knowledge on GFX cards?13:13
Dr_willismiladen,  You are refering to what exactly?13:13
DragnslcrRichard_Balls- check /var/log/dpkg.log for errors13:13
miladenI need a good gfx card for my pc that has at least 1 vga and 1 dvi output13:13
miladenbut i dont wanna spend a lot, cause i dont play games and stuff like that13:14
* Richard_Balls is a noob13:14
miladenand it should be very "linux friendly"13:14
Richard_Ballshow?13:14
Dr_willismiladen,  most of the cards that have 2 dvi - can have an adaptor to turn one into a vga13:14
Dr_willispick an nvidia card in your budget.13:14
miladenyeah thats fine too13:14
miladenall nvidia cards are linux supported?13:14
Dr_willispretty much13:16
DragnslcrYou can get a GeForce 8400 that has a DVI and VGA output for about $6013:16
Dr_willisFor a lower need , nvidia has some fanless video cards out also.13:16
DragnslcrRichard_Balls- probably Kate would be the easiest13:16
Dr_willis$50 or so range13:16
Dr_willisnice and quite.13:17
Richard_Ballsok13:17
Dr_williswell night all.13:17
miladeni have about $10013:18
miladento spend13:18
miladenon an nvidia card... any models you recommend?13:18
DragnslcrYeah, you can get a good nVidia card for $10013:18
Richard_Ballswhat am I looking for? I just did 'apt-get upgrade' so it's fairly long13:18
mangoOOOOoooo!compiz13:19
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion13:19
Eduardohere a good NVIDIA card its cust R$160013:19
miladenwhat?13:19
Eduardothe 8600 gt cust R$1600 here13:20
Eduardo:(13:20
Dragnslcrmiladen- for $100 you can probably get a good 8500 or 860013:20
miladeni said i have $100 not $160013:20
Eduardomiladen: where U live?13:22
DragnslcrRichard_Balls- you can run apt-get upgrade again and see what gets added to the log13:23
DragnslcrRichard_Balls- if you have a package that you're trying to install that's broken, it should try to install it again13:23
Richard_Ballsnothing was added13:24
Oleanderhelp: am getting this when doing sudo apt-get update -> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege?13:24
Eduardosudo ^13:24
wesleyvlc is giving ab error13:24
Oleander"E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct problme13:25
Richard_Ballswhen I attempt to enable xorg-driver-fglrx from system settings>restricted drivers I get the error message13:25
Eduardomiladen: but i'm in brazil how can I buy from you?13:26
wesleyvlc is getting error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52409/13:26
barnbarnmy lovely fresh install of kubuntu kernel panics on the "loading kernel hardware drivers"13:29
barnbarnwhich I'm willing to bet is the nvidia agp card in it13:30
barnbarnanyone have any smashing ideas how to stop it doing that?13:30
ibouunstable hibernation on my dell inspiron 1520. Help plz.13:36
hwibou: Know how to use google? :>13:37
se7enhmmm i was going to try hardy but ...Need to get 602MB/763MB of archives ...13:38
ibouhw: yes but i didnt found the info i wanted13:38
iboudidnt find13:38
stefan__hello all13:39
stefan__I want to connect to an astaro firewall with kvpnc via pptp13:39
stefan__with M$ there is no Problem, only my local kubuntu is not working13:40
hwibou: What do you expect? How can anyone help you without a single error message?13:40
stefan__when I do a traceroute I get other Ips as the M$ clients13:40
hwibou: Car doesn't start. plz help13:40
hwLOL13:40
ibouhw: maybe someone who had the same problem on the same laptop ?13:40
husoholaaaa13:41
ibouhw: anyway thanks for your helpful participation13:41
FaiDillinGerhey whats up you all13:41
stefan__when I add routes in kvpnc the remote site is hanging up13:41
stefan__can someone help?13:41
hwibou: In that case: "Anyone here using dell inspiron 1520?"13:42
ibouif you want...13:42
Lynoureibou: hibernation is common problem, tiresome to troubleshoot, but you have googled for  gutsy inspiron 1520 hibernation  already and tried some measures you found?13:42
ibouLynoure: yes i did13:43
ibouLynoure: now it's better because i can suspend13:44
ibouand my hibernation works but only sometimes13:44
ibouLynoure: i used this page : http://boulderjams.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/ubuntu-dell-suspend-fix/13:45
Richard_Ballsand now I can't install any new packages13:45
Richard_Ballsfrom command line or from adept13:45
wesleyi cant get my screen good i got 19 inch tft widescreen on 1,024 x 768 but if i try 1440x900 then its not full screen13:46
Lynoureibou: it working sometimes sounds strange. When it does not work, how does it fail?13:46
ibouLynoure: the screen become black but the pc doesn't shut down13:48
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Julietta2hi all !  There is a new forum called Exotics Forum and it has free membership option !  Exotics Adult Forum ::: http://exotics.heavenforum.com/index.htm !...13:48
seezerwesley: which graphics card do you have?13:50
Lynoureibou: do you have any guesses on what is different when it does not work?13:50
se7en!bot13:51
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Lynoureibou: "13:52
LynoureWhat video are you using? With fglrx, I have to set the screensaver to "Blank" only, as the suspend/resume scripts will lock the screen. If something that uses GL is running, the machine locks hard and refuses to suspend."13:52
Lynoureibou: so, that could be your difference, no big idea on how to fix it, I don't use fglrx...13:53
ibouLynoure: yes maybe13:53
edihi, how can i paste the content of the clipboard (middleclick) with a keycombination?13:54
jpatrick!paste13:54
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)13:54
ibouLynoure: the problem is that since im french it's hard to describe you the situation in english13:54
ibouLynoure: but thanks for your help ill try to test some gl things13:55
ediif i mark a text it can be pasted with a middleclick, but how paste it with a hotkey?13:56
ibouLynoure: my video card is geforce 8600 GT13:56
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se7enedi: ctrl + shift + insert14:00
soulriderdoes anyone know if the latest xorg is breaking toher things?14:00
edise7en doesnt work....14:01
se7endoes for me edi ...14:01
ediwhere i can i configure this key?14:01
se7enhave a look at kcontrol regional & accdssibility > keyboard shortcuts14:03
se7enedi14:03
se7enapplication shortcuts > paste selection is ctrl shift insert14:04
Richard_BallsI'm having a lot of trouble installing any new packages but I keep getting "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."14:04
edise7en: thats strange, keykombination was set like u said, but didnt work, changed the key doesnt work either...14:07
seezerRichard_Balls: you could try `apt-get install -f` in a terminal to get more detailed information14:07
se7enedi sorry but than i can't help ...14:08
fernando_I am trying to isntall codeblocks, but the package is break, any idea?14:11
Richard_Ballsseezer: "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."14:12
seezerRichard_Balls: and if you try `sudo apt-get install $yourpackage` you get an error?14:15
stfHi. Running feisty I think. When I do Ctrl+Alt+F1 I get a black screen instead of a virtual terminal. What's going on?14:15
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Richard_Ballsyes14:18
seezerRichard_Balls: could you paste all the console output to a pastebin please14:19
Richard_Ballsah14:22
Richard_Ballsno need14:22
Richard_Balls'install xorg-driver-fglrx' brings 'xorg-driver-fglrx: Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but it is not installable'14:23
stfHi. When I do Ctrl+Alt+F1 I get a black screen instead of a virtual terminal. What's going on?14:25
seezerRichard_Balls: what version of kubuntu do you use?14:26
Richard_Balls7.1014:27
Richard_Ballsinstalled yesterday14:27
seezerdid you refresh your repositories yet?14:27
Richard_Ballswith apt-get update/upgrade?14:28
seezerRichard_Balls: version 3.3.6-15ubuntu2 of libstdc++5 is in gutsy/main14:28
seezerapt-get update yes14:28
Richard_Ballsyes14:28
seezeror use adept manager14:28
Oleander!dual14:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:28
seezerRichard_Balls: what tells you `apt-cache policy libstdc++5`?14:29
seezer(always with sudo)14:29
Richard_Ballsinstalled: none/candidate: none14:30
U238Willyhey guys.. i have two .debs one is dependent on the other to install.. (i get a dependency error when I try to Gdebi either one)14:30
U238Willyany ideas?14:31
seezerRichard_Balls: then something is wrong with your repositories. it's in main/ - you should have that14:31
seezerRichard_Balls: easiest way would be to start adept_manager and Adept>Manage Repositories14:32
seezeryou get a list of "Downloadable from the Internet" - i'd activate everything (perhaps not source code if you don't need it) and choose a fitting option from "Download from:"14:33
seezerin the tab "Third-Party Software" disable the cdrom and in "Updates" i'd suggest "Important security updates", "Recommended updates" and "Unsupported updates"14:34
seezerclose, fetch updates and try again14:35
Richard_Ballsokay14:38
BluesKajHowdy Folks  :-)14:39
seezerBluesKaj: howdy!14:39
BluesKajhi seezer14:40
emilsedghhowdy BluesKaj14:41
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Richard_Ballsthat did teh trick seezer14:43
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Richard_Ballsthanks14:43
venikI need help in accessing an external USB hard drive from Kubuntu 7.1014:44
venikIt USED to work, but now I cannot access it from Linux14:44
seezerRichard_Balls: you're welcome. strange that you had to do that anyway..14:44
tzdi need help auto-mounting a newly formatted hdd. It's now formatted as ext3 but I have to mount it manually and I'm not quite sure how to modify the fstab. Help someone please?14:45
seezervenik: what did you do in the meantime? ;)14:45
venikMy USB drive is formatted as VFAT14:45
tzdvenik: have you had it in windows environment recently?14:46
venikupdated programs, etc14:46
venikno14:46
seezertzd: KDE offers a gui for that via SystemSettings>Advanced>Disk&Filesystems14:46
stefan__I want to do route add permant but can not find away to do it14:46
venikI tried to enable it through the SystemSettings, but failed14:46
stefan__can someone help?14:46
tzdseezer:  thanks, I'll have a look there soon :)14:46
seezervenik: do you see the drive in storage:// ?14:46
venikit does not even appear there14:46
venik(although it used to)14:46
venikno, it is not in the STORAGE14:46
tzdvenik: one thing that worked for me was to disable to option "boot as user"14:46
venikto try that I have to see it in the systemsetting14:47
tzdvenik: oh, never mind what i just said then :)14:47
seezervenik: pull it out - wait a little14:47
seezervenik: look at the last lines of `dmesg` in a terminal14:47
veniksI tried disconnecting it a few times14:47
seezerthen plug it in and recall dmesg14:47
Richard_Ballsmy computer has a utility partition in /dev/sda114:47
venikI can READ it as root from the terminal14:48
Richard_BallsI don't want it appearing in storage media14:48
Richard_Ballswill 'delete' hide it or delete the partition?14:48
venikactually, not from the terminal but from Krusader if I am root14:49
venikbut I cannot write to it, or drag and rop to it as I used to be able to do14:49
veniksomehow, I think my fstab file got corrupted14:49
seezervenik: how do you mount it?14:49
venikbut it is all Chinese to me14:49
venikOther USB drive (flash) work fine14:50
seezermanually/via fstab or do you just plug it in and wait for hal to handle it?14:50
venikI just unplug the USB wire, wait, and replug it14:50
venikI tried to mount it using mountman, which also used to work, but now returns an error14:51
BluesKajhiya emilsedgh ...was on the phone14:51
emilsedghBluesKaj: np, just wanted to say 'howdy' to you :P14:52
venikcan I paste my fstab here?14:52
seezervenik: hm i don't know mountman but hal and kde should handle it if you plug it in14:52
genii!paste|venik14:52
ubotuvenik: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)14:52
seezergenii: thx :)14:52
* BluesKaj passes genii a hot cuppa coffee14:53
venikI just pasted it there14:53
geniiBluesKaj: Thanks14:53
geniiBluesKaj: Go a flu cure? Could use that too....14:53
seezergenii: same here.. :/14:53
seezervenik: thats nice. now show us the url14:54
geniivenik: Remember to give us the website address of the stuff you put there so we can go see it14:54
veniksince I do not speak fstab, I am reluctant to play with it14:54
seezeryou shouldn't need to anyway14:54
veniksorry-- here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52418/14:54
BluesKajgenii, snowed in here ... got a 2ft snowbank at the end of the driveway ...biggie storm here last nite14:54
geniiseezer: The kde gui mount app puts weird crap sometimes into the fstab, looks like html codes occasionally14:55
seezergenii: ouch. looks like that.14:55
seezerdidn't have this problems before14:55
geniiBluesKaj: No snow here but hella high winds..like 90kph14:55
BluesKajyup, 50-60 here14:56
tzdseezer:  the KDE option for mounting was great stuff :) I havent rebooted yet but it worked immediately. Will my "new" settings overwrite the old settings in fstab? In my old settings i had a NTFS partition mounted where i now mount an ext3 partition. It's basically the same thing, only thing that differs is the filesystem14:56
venikIs it OK to rename fstab and reboot?14:56
seezertzd: the fstab should already be "fixed" - just have a look at it14:57
venikmaybe it will create a correct fstab this time?14:57
geniivenik: no14:57
venikok14:57
seezertzd: it's quite easy to understand - or paste it in a pastebin and we'll probably tell you ;)14:57
venikthe offending drive is LACIE14:57
geniivenik: If you do that the system will be unable to mount the root partition14:57
venikok, I am glad I asked ;-)14:57
seezervenik: did you reformat the drive?14:57
venikNO!!!!!!!!!!!!14:57
venikI shall if that is the only way14:58
tzdseezer: it's been updated. I'll do the settings from the kde menu from now on, thanks a lot for your help :)14:58
geniiseezer: Note <device> cdrom   etc etc  <-- crap like what I described before14:58
venikbut since I can read it, but not write to it, I thought it is not broken14:58
seezergenii: yeah.. too bad..14:58
geniivenik: With the drive plugged in please do:  sudo fdisk -l      as well as: blkid         and put those results also into a pastebin for us to see14:59
geniiwork calls me, AFK a bit14:59
venikcan any of you experts look at my fstab on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52418/ and let me know what you think?14:59
Eduardo!compiz14:59
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion15:00
Eduardo!envy15:00
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »15:00
ForgeAusis Jucato there?15:00
stefan__I want to do as permanent route an followed the instaructions here:15:03
stefan__http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-234207.html15:03
stefan__but this is nnot working, the route dont come up15:04
stefan__can someone help?15:04
geniiback15:05
geniivenik: Without the result of: sudo fdisk -l     there is no way to know which /dev entries to put for the problemmatic drives15:06
venikok-- I shall paste that in a second15:07
venikVoila:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52429/15:08
geniivenik: Reading, thanks15:08
seezerstefan__: could you show me your route adding line?15:08
venikthe results of venik's sudo fdisk -l15:08
stefan__#!/bin/sh15:08
stefan__# Set static routes15:08
stefan__#15:08
stefan__/sbin/route add -net 172.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 gw 10.104.225.115:08
seezerthat's in /etc/network/if-up.d/ right?15:09
seezerand executable15:09
stefan__yes15:09
stefan__and its executeable!15:09
seezerdo you use knetworkmanager?15:10
geniivenik: I do not see any entry which could be the lacie, did you have it powered on and connected by the usb cord when you issued the command?15:10
venikyes, I did15:10
stefan__yes I used it also, but not to add a route15:10
* genii goes back to re-examine15:10
seezervenik: does it appear in `lsusb`?15:10
vijay_hi15:11
stefan__what can I do?15:11
geniivenik: What is the size of the lacie disk?15:11
AutoscumHey guys, my soundcard crapped up for no reason...15:11
AutoscumWhat's up with that? :D15:11
venikI do not see an lsusb15:11
venikI just powered down and up again.  Let me try it again15:12
AutoscumI mean - XMMS just skips fast through the song, I don't hear any sound or anything...15:12
Autoscum!sound15:12
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP315:12
stefan__!route15:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about route - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:12
Autoscumgenii: Bulgaria? :P15:12
venikI still do not see it...15:13
geniiAutoscum: Me? Canada15:13
AutoscumAh..15:13
AutoscumBecause genii means genius in Bulgarian. :p15:13
seezerstefan__: hm. strange. could you add something like 'echo foo >> /tmp/bar' into the script to check if it gets called15:13
vijay_can any1 tell me how to install firefox in kubuntu?15:14
Autoscumvijay_ go to Add/Remove Programs and search for Firefox15:14
Autoscum:)15:14
venikuse ADD/REMOVE program, type FIREFOX in the search box15:14
stefan__yes bar is the in tmp when I restart networking!15:15
geniivenik: OK. You say you can mount it occasionally. Do whatever it is that acomplishes this. Then in Konsole issue: cat /etc/mtab    and put that please to the pastebin15:15
stefan__btw kubuntu 7.1015:16
ForgeAusI finally fixed my font problem15:16
ForgeAusstill no X tho15:16
geniiAutoscum: Oddly I've heard that exact same thing about Bulgaria and my nickname here at least 5-6 times now15:16
avator33ligo hlp pls15:17
Autoscumgenii: Now isn't that strange? :)15:18
AutoscumHeh.15:18
geniivenik: The mtab file contains a list of currently mounted filesystems, so we should then know what device, also what options etc etc15:18
AutoscumWhere does your nickname come from?15:18
venikOK-- here it is (my mtab) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52431/15:18
seezerstefan__: hm. really strange. you have an interface in the gws network up?15:18
BluesKajwell, the nick genii in english means plural (more than one genius) , which could be misinterpreted as multiple geniuses or presonalities ?  :-)15:18
venikI probably should reboot and try these things again15:19
BluesKajerr personalities15:19
AutoscumBluesKaj: I doubt it. :D15:19
BluesKajhehe15:19
ForgeAusBlues, well can't be MPD, it doesn't really exist anymore, that was reclassified as DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder)15:19
geniiAutoscum: My name means the same as in Bulgarian15:19
ForgeAusI mean seriously Every Actor has MPD as their profession!15:19
geniivenik: OK, reading15:20
Autoscumgenii: Nice! :D15:20
Autoscumlulz15:20
venikit is possible that there is something wrong somewhere with the drives, since when I reboot it often getrs stuck at one point, with the blue bar 1/4 of the way to finishing15:20
BluesKajbah humbug.... psyhco-babble strikes again :)15:20
stefan__ähh, gws?15:20
stefan__networking is up15:20
ForgeAusno thats the Empire, or didn't you watch Star Wars :)15:20
* BluesKaj is losing spelling memory15:20
seezerstefan__: ermn. gateway15:20
stefan__only the route dont comes up15:20
BluesKajuse dig in the terminal15:21
AutoscumSo my problem: My soundcard doesn't work. It doesn't give any error, XMMS plays 10x faster with no sound and flash crashes.15:21
stefan__there is only a default route15:21
AutoscumAny ideas, anyone?15:21
stefan__now I have to add another tot do vpn15:21
venikgenii, do u see anything worthwhile in my mtab, or should I reboot and try again?15:22
Richard_Balls>.> I installed fglrx15:23
Richard_Ballsand restarted15:23
Richard_BallsI have a cursor and a black screen15:23
stefan__someone else has same problem wirh permanent route add on kubuntu 7.10?15:23
venikrebooting15:23
geniivenik: There is something unusual there, and also in your previous fstab post. The / seems to be mounted in 2 locations15:23
BluesKajstefan , try neotrace pro on wine ...I think it's floating around on the net in certain pirate sites altho it's been officially discontinued15:23
simion314can some one help me to install a driver for the sound card? here are the instructions http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52419/ , i have some problems because of the folder   structure15:23
venikgenii, that does not sound good15:24
BluesKajwell gents and gentilles, gotta go push some snow , BBL.15:24
geniivenik: To tell for certain I ned to see output of command: blkid    to compare sda1 and sda5 UUID agains the fstab file15:24
venikok-- let me get that15:25
seezerstefan__: perhaps it is a timing problem - tried the "up" variant via /etc/network/interfaces before?15:25
* genii hands BluesKaj a scarf and some hotpockets warmers15:25
seezerwhere you can add it to the corresponding interface15:25
stefan__no, what have I to do15:25
stefan__?15:25
seezerstefan__: look at the website you showed me15:26
stefan__ok15:26
simion314can some one help me to install a driver for the sound card? here are the instructions http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52419/ , i have some problems because of the folder   structure15:26
venikgenii, the blkid is in: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52432/15:26
geniivenik: OK thanks15:26
seezerout for some nicotine..15:27
stefan__you mean I should try it in /etc/networking/interfaces?15:27
stefan__ok, ill try15:27
Richard_Ballsaaand now grub doesn't give me a list of operating systems15:27
Richard_Ballsjust a black screen with some gibberish15:28
Richard_Ballsand whenever I press a key it gives me more15:28
ForgeAusRichard sounds like your menu.list is messed up15:28
ForgeAusunder /boot/grub ???15:28
stefan__when I do this the interface dont comes up!15:28
stefan__only neetworking restart, or is a reboot necessary?15:29
Richard_Ballsyeah ForgeAus15:29
Richard_BallsI'm not sure why that would have happened or how to fix it15:29
geniivenik: Sorry for lag, work is getting a bit busy. But anyhow: kdesu kate /etc/fstab           and then comment out the last 4 lines at the bottom by putting a # at the start of the lines. then save it and exit. After that to reboot (I normally do not suggest reboots but your / is mounted in 2 spots right now, this needs fixing)15:32
geniivenik: I will return in 3-4 minutes, need to accomplish some work and return15:33
vijay__how to install firefox in kubuntu ? i pls tell me15:33
sarssudo apt-get install firefox15:34
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sarsmake sure that you update the dep by typing sudo apt-get update in console15:34
vijay__i m new in linux/15:35
seezerstefan__: i mean "put a line 'up /sbin/route add ....' below the interface in /etc/network/interfaces"15:35
Vermuxso here is the problem :15:35
vijay__ys15:36
VermuxI just installed kubuntu. since then, every time adept updates I get the following error: "there was an error commiting changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or commit would break packages15:37
stefan__okay it seems I have it, the permission were wrong I think, set it to 755, all is running!15:37
stefan__look herer, shorter discription:15:38
stefan__http://boilinglinux.blogspot.com/2007/12/how-to-add-permanent-route.html15:38
stefan__thanks!!! seezer :)15:38
Vermuxadditionaly, in Yahoo home page the "more" menu covers the search line15:38
Richard_BallsVermux15:38
Vermuxyes15:39
Richard_Ballsin adept_manager15:39
VermuxRichard_Balls: yes15:39
Richard_Ballsselect sources15:39
Richard_Ballsuhh15:39
Vermuxsavicevic115:39
Richard_Ballsjust a second15:39
Vermuxsssssssds15:39
AutoscumMy soundcard doesn't work. It doesn't give any error, XMMS plays 10x faster with no sound and flash crashes.15:40
seezerstefan__: hum? how should it create /tmp/bla then?15:40
AutoscumAny ideas, anyone?15:40
VermuxRichard_Balls: ok15:40
Richard_Ballsadept>manage repositories15:41
seezerstefan__: if the permissions were 'wrong' it shouldn't been able to be executed.15:41
seezerstrange..15:41
Richard_Ballsselect community-maintained and software restcited by copyright15:41
seezerbut nice it's working for you now. :)15:41
geniiback15:41
Richard_Ballsand disable cdrom in third-party software tab15:41
seezerRichard_Balls: nice to see you giving your knowledge back to the people :)15:42
Richard_Ballsha15:42
kyehow can i setup a fsck for the next time i reboot.. it says if i start one while the file system is mounter it could cause issues?15:42
simion314can some one help me to install a driver for the sound card? here are the instructions http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52419/ , i have some problems because of the folder   structure15:43
simion314does anyone knows a how to for build drivers?15:43
VermuxRichard_Balls: ok, what now. all the updates I have done are lost?15:45
Richard_Ballssudo apt-get install15:45
snowbirdi cant     query   a modem tried      two one  dial up one   dsl both work on  live and show up as in  ports15:48
VermuxRichard_Balls: I downloaded adobe flash player in the adept manager and got the same error15:48
geniivenik: You alive over there? ;)15:49
VermuxRichard_Balls: I tried to dosudo apt-get install and get the following: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run dpkg --configure -a" to correct the problem15:55
luisramhola a todos16:00
suinihao16:00
suihallo16:00
luisramalguien a instalado vmgl para virtualbox16:00
se7en!es16:01
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.16:01
luisramgracias16:01
ubuntu_hello all16:09
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K44ALL_MarphineGood morning Kubuntu users! Please allow me to introduce myself before delving into the eight hundred questions I have regarding this OS, which is new to me. I have been running Kubuntu for about a week, and it's my first foray into the Linux universe.16:09
K44ALL_MarphineI'm not a computer novice - I even had a tech support gig for about four years for a dialup ISP, but this Linuk thing is totally new to me16:10
jpatrickK44ALL_Marphine: hi16:11
Newb_kubuntulol16:11
emilsedghhey K44ALL_Marphine16:11
Newb_kubuntuneeeewwwwwbbsss16:11
Newb_kubuntuits ok me to16:11
K44ALL_Marphineto draw a Windows paralell, you can't just tell me to go to the controll pannel, you say Start--->settings--->control pannel... were this WinBlows that I needed support for and were it that I have the same level of knowledge about it as I do Kubuntu16:12
K44ALL_Marphineso like I said, I have about 800 issues.  To preface this, I gotta say that I LOVE this shizznit. It's so STABLE, and the same hardware running Win666 crashed about three times a day16:13
K44ALL_Marphinebut to start out with, the default install fails to recognise my Belkin 802.11G USB adapter16:14
jpatrick!ohmy | K44ALL_Marphine16:14
ubotuK44ALL_Marphine: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.16:14
K44ALL_MarphineI don't know if these drivers exist for that atter, don't know how to go about looking, and should by chance, I happen to locate them, I'm clueless on the install16:14
K44ALL_Marphineoookies ubotu sry16:14
jpatrick!bot > K44ALL_Marphine16:15
Vermuxjpatrick: hi16:15
jpatrickK44ALL_Marphine: go to KMenu -> System -> Adept and you can install everything from there16:15
jpatrickVermux: hey, how did it go?16:15
K44ALL_Marphinelol I noticed when it automagically opened a new chat window16:15
LynoureK44ALL_Marphine: What drivers are you looking for?16:15
Vermuxjpatrick: not good16:16
Lynoureoh, usb net adapter... usually not very happy hardware16:16
Vermuxjpatrick: I installed kubuntu. but having problems16:16
jpatrickVermux: ah...16:16
K44ALL_MarphineWell it's not happy or sad... it's just *not* at this point lokl16:17
LynoureK44ALL_Marphine: Would you know the model number for that one, there are several that match the stats, I think16:17
Vermuxjpatrick: how I install files from the internet? for example Im trying to watch a movie using adobe flash player. it opens adobe website and give me the option to download .tar.gz.file16:17
Vermuxjpatrick: what do I do next?16:17
jpatrickVermux: install flashplugin-nonfree16:18
K44ALL_Marphinedrivers for this Belkin 802.11G usb adapter16:18
K44ALL_Marphinehrm justa sec16:18
vijay_how to install firefox in kubuntu?16:19
K44ALL_MarphineF5D705016:19
jpatrick!firefox | vijay_16:19
ubotuvijay_: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins16:19
K44ALL_MarphineThat's the model - a Belkin 802.11G USB adapter model # F5D705016:20
linux__salut16:20
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se7en!kubuntu-restricted-extras16:20
Vermuxjpatrick: I installed it. but even though I did that it still asks me to instal the player. it seems that adept_manager didnt update the system. Also- up untill now, everytime I installed something with adept_manager it gave me the following error message: "There was an error commiting changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or commit would break changes"16:21
smerili have a simple question regarding how to use media files with ubuntu how can i see google video youtube and also play mp3, waw, mpeg, mpg and avi files? And i would also like to know more about easy installations16:21
vijay_firefox is not here in kubuntu16:21
K44ALL_MarphineAnd please keep in mind - anyone that offers me help - assume that I don't know any part of my anatomy from anything else that is n*not* part of my anatomy16:21
smerilme too16:21
se7envijay_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox16:22
intelikeyK44ALL_Marphine what's the issue ?16:22
jpatrick!flash16:22
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash16:22
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.16:22
LynoureK44ALL_Marphine: ah, at least someone has gotten that to work, but using a third party package. See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/139070 or more specifically https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/139070/comments/2116:22
K44ALL_MarphineCan't get my Belkin 802.11G USB adapter model  F5D7050 to be recognised at all with Kubuntu Dapper Drake16:23
smerilthanks  i will try16:23
LynoureK44ALL_Marphine: But, not the easiest stuff in the world. You could try the .deb Tim gave, but at your own risk and it probably still takes steps after that (not sure what, I don't play with usb wlan)16:23
intelikeyK44ALL_Marphine im usb'less  so no help there.16:24
geniiK44ALL_Marphine: First try to load the usbnet driver16:24
LynoureK44ALL_Marphine: it will probably still not work with knetwork-manager, after you get it to that state16:24
LynoureI guess he did not like my help :)16:25
vijay_how to install kppp in ubuntu?16:25
MarcChow do I empty trash for items that I deleted as root?16:25
intelikeyLynoure i like your help.  :)16:25
intelikeyLynoure and while we're at it...  :)16:25
Lynoureintelikey: oh, thank you :)16:25
se7envijay_: it is installed16:25
intelikeyhowto trubble shoot  ssh auth failure ?16:26
intelikeytrouble shoot even16:26
vijay_no there in not looking16:26
K44ALL_MarphineWell here's the thing - I can follow directions of they are more explicit than hardcore pr0n shot from ten angles, but if instructions are in any way incomplete or assume some knowledge of the OS, I'm more skrewed than a twelve year old Thai hooker16:26
Lynoureintelikey: Assuming access, or no access to the logs on the sshd side of things?16:27
Vermuxjpatrick: I didnt get it. I cannot install it now because it has bug in it?16:27
intelikeyLynoure full access16:27
bazhangK44ALL_Marphine: language16:27
jpatrickVermux: yeah, blame adobe16:27
intelikeyLynoure i can connect one way  but not back again16:27
Lynoureintelikey: hmm, rephrase that?16:28
se7envijay_: alt + F2 and write kppp16:28
Vermuxjpatrick: but isnt it a bug only in the uptae for flash?16:28
K44ALL_MarphineLike that thing you just said genii - "load usbnet driver" - where do I locate said driver and what is the process that I would utilize to load it?16:28
jpatrickVermux: and install I believe16:28
intelikeyboth machines are setup about the same.   i can ssh into one from the other  but not the other from the one16:28
Lynoureintelikey: what happens when you try?16:28
intelikeyroot@192.168.0.6's password:16:29
intelikeyPermission denied, please try again.16:29
intelikeyand the password is right.16:29
intelikeyand root is not locked out.16:29
Vermuxok, forget about that. I have bigger problems I suspect16:29
trappistintelikey: did you disable root login in sshd_config?16:29
Lynoureintelikey: are you sure sure sure the configurations are totally same? no ssh for root is quite common default16:29
cnStarz!tab16:30
ubotuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.16:30
Vermuxjpatrick:  up untill now, everytime I installed something with adept_manager it gave me the following error message: "There was an error commiting changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or commit would break changes"16:30
se7enintelikey: is there a root acount on the 0,6 system16:30
jpatrick!adeptfix > Vermux16:30
intelikeyse7en there is a root account on all linux boxen16:30
trappistintelikey: well not all - it's possible to get rid of it16:31
geniiK44ALL_Marphine: since using KDE, open up program Konsole. Then type in:   sudo modprobe usbnet                         it will ask for password, put your usual one in16:31
cnStarzis there a kde4 channel?16:31
se7enwell some of them don't allow ssh to the root intelikey16:31
intelikeytrappist ok should i say a uid=0 account on all ?16:31
intelikeyse7en i know   /etc/ssh/sshd_conf   PermitRootLogin no/yes16:32
K44ALL_Marphinecool thx genii - executing those commands now16:32
trappistintelikey: not quite :)  it's possible to delegate everything and not have a superuser at all.  of course that will break some software, but it can be done.16:32
SSJ_GZcnStarz: #kubuntu-kde416:32
cnStarzthanks16:32
trappistintelikey: is it maybe set up for key-only authentication?16:33
Lynoureintelikey: But, you have root account, with the password you typed in, right? anything fun in auth.log?16:33
trappistor, is your caps-lock on?16:33
K44ALL_Marphinewas it supposed to provide any output to Konsole?16:33
intelikeynegitive.16:33
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geniiK44ALL_Marphine: K44ALL_MarphineIf successful, no16:33
K44ALL_MarphineIt didn't give me an error... or anything16:33
geniibah16:33
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intelikeyLynoure looking at auth.log ....16:34
se7enintelikey: can you ssh in as a normal user16:34
tdnWhat packages do I need to remove to make a regular Ubuntu into an Ubuntu Server?16:34
jpatrick!purekde > tdn16:34
jpatricktdn: just don't install kde later16:34
intelikeyLynoure ummmm  /var/log/auth.log is non-exsistant16:34
geniiK44ALL_Marphine: Thats a good thing then. Now do: dmesg|tail  and see if it has any mention of the usb adapter16:34
tdnjpatrick, ok. Thanks.16:35
trappistintelikey: check syslog.conf to see where auth logs are going, or sshd_config to see what log facility is being used16:35
Lynoureintelikey: hmm, that's weird....16:35
intelikeyse7en not on that server.  root or nothing.  and atm. not root.16:35
thomas`what software do I best use to get as much information about my HD as possible, to be precise, I need te production serial.16:35
trappistthomas`: depends on the hard drive.  is it ide? scsi? sata?16:36
K44ALL_Marphinek... what's the character between dmesg and tail?16:36
thomas`sata16:36
thomas`trappist:16:36
trappistK44ALL_Marphine: |16:36
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intelikeylet me go away and reboot that box.    brb16:37
geniiK44ALL_Marphine: It's called a pipe symbol...usually found above/near Enter key16:37
thomas`trappist: any ideas?16:37
trappistthomas`: not sure, but maybe that's in /proc/scsi/sg/device_strs16:38
K44ALL_Marphine...but Menu--->System Settings--->Network Settings only shows my ethernet adapter still16:38
thomas`trappist: nop thats not it16:38
* genii looks for his advil16:39
Lynouregenii: is the bug I pointed K44ALL_Marphine to fixed? Because it would keep the usb adapter from working...16:39
intelikeyi think my logging is hoeZd16:39
trappistthomas`: ah, got it.  sudo hdparm -i /dev/sda (or sdb or whatever)16:39
intelikeytty24 [root@dell.~] ls /var/log16:39
intelikeydmesg  sulog16:39
trappistintelikey: woah16:39
intelikeyif i hadn't done it my self i'd sware that i'd been hacked.16:39
geniiLynoure: I'm going to go look at it right now. He's not using the 2.6.22 kernel tho obviously, if he is on 6.0616:39
Lynouregenii: oh, missed that bit...16:40
thomas`trappist: thanx16:40
intelikeythe daemons that facilatate logging are probably not installed....16:40
Lynoureintelikey: "make it as simple as it can be and no simpler" somehow applies here.16:41
K44ALL_MarphineI gotta go check the laundry but will return in about five minutes... thank all esp genii for help rendered so far, and I plan on presuing this further upon my return. Thank you all for tolerating my total n00bieness16:41
Lynoureintelikey: I gotta go to get some paid work done. Good luck with the process.16:42
intelikeyLynoure you sujest the later portion of that phrase i assume16:42
intelikeyLynoure sure.  thanks.16:42
MichaelSammelsWhen I run the Ubuntu LiveCD or install on my desktop, my monitor says that the input is not supported. Card is an Intel 845G.16:42
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MichaelSammelsKubuntu*16:42
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arab_hy all people16:42
intelikeyi guess that i'll have to hack around some more to force sshd to work without being installed....16:43
MichaelSammelsAny ideas?16:43
intelikeyooops...16:43
geniiK44ALL_Marphine: The next driver to load would be the rt2500usb16:44
arab_why "ooops.."? intelikey16:44
intelikeyMichaelSammels when it is telling you that press  ctrl+alt+plus16:44
arab_hy16:44
arab_w8tah16:44
W8TAHhello16:44
MichaelSammelsintelikely: input not supported (monitor output)16:44
MichaelSammelsObh wait16:45
MichaelSammels:P16:45
intelikeyMichaelSammels yes16:45
MichaelSammelsI will16:45
MichaelSammels:D16:45
MichaelSammelsCheers16:45
MichaelSammelsDoes this work for the LiveCD?16:45
intelikeyyep16:45
intelikeyin fact press it several times with a slight delay between16:45
arab_hy intelikey16:45
MichaelSammelsWhat does it do...16:45
intelikeystep through the modes16:45
intelikeyarab_ shalom16:46
arab_somewhere can help me?16:46
arab_ok16:46
arab_who are you?16:46
sarshow kind of prob have u16:46
sarsarab16:46
intelikeyarab_ sars help you will16:46
intelikey:)16:47
sarshehe i will help u more16:47
MichaelSammelsintelikely if I do this do I get graphics?16:47
sarshere no place for your derty polycical sheet16:47
intelikeyMichaelSammels hopefully  that's why i sujested it.16:47
trappistomg the spelling hurts16:48
MichaelSammels:D Trying when WinServer shuts down16:48
intelikeytrappist be nice.  you know i can't spell my own name.16:48
trappistintelikey: it's everybody at once all of a sudden!  like it's spell-everything-wrong day or something16:49
intelikeydid you miss the memo ?16:49
trappistintelikey: apparently!16:50
affanHI All, I am getting the error "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.". I have tried restarting the computer as well as running the dpkg --configure -a command. But I still get the same error... any ideas? thanks!16:50
arab_somewhere speak portuguese?16:50
gladier_affan: apt-get update16:50
bjwebbno sound is playing, where do i start16:50
geniiintelikey: Was that the one about International Dyxlesia day?16:50
sarsno francais oui arab oui16:51
arab_no sars16:51
sarstakalam bil3arabia16:51
bjwebb!ubuntu-pt arab_16:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-pt arab_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:51
stdin!pt16:51
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.16:51
arab_tanks!16:51
affangladier_: I just did that. I still get the same error.16:52
Vermuxyoutube16:52
MichaelSammelsintelikey: is that the + on the numeric keypad or along the function keys row?16:53
trappist!pt | arab_16:54
ubotuarab_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.16:54
trappistoh oops I was scrolled up16:54
intelikeyok i think i may have found it.    i can ssh into the box from itself  but not from the network     now  do i need to list   listen addresses for all ip's on the lan ?16:55
intelikeygenii yes it was.      "have some coffee?"16:56
chxI am running kubuntu gutsy and looking for a ftp program that can download one big file on multiple threads.16:56
intelikeyMichaelSammels on the num pad.    but you missed my answer16:56
intelikeyanyone knows sshd_conf   well enough to tell me if there is a way to listen on the entire lan with one line ?16:57
intelikeylisten 192.168.0.0/24   or something ?16:58
intelikeyListenAddress 192.168.0. ^16:58
jannishi, i've a small problem. i am using kde4 (launchpad-sources) and openoffice.org. when i klick file->save as, a new window comes up wich sais: no contact to klauncher (own translation from german). what can i do?16:59
Vermuxhow can I cause my computer to use a lot of resources to check its stability?16:59
intelikeykde4 support is in another channel16:59
janniswich?16:59
intelikey!kde417:00
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde417:00
mark__anyone know any good 3D games?17:00
intelikeyVermux stress testing ?17:00
geniiVermux render something huge in POV17:00
jussi01mark__: what kind of games?17:00
intelikeyshould be some good sujestion on the web about that17:00
jussi01!games | mark__17:00
ubotumark__: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php17:00
jussi01mark__: I recomned tremulous17:01
mark__whats it like?17:01
jussi01!info tremulous17:01
ubotutremulous: Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-4 (gutsy), package size 645 kB, installed size 1512 kB17:01
jussi01mark__: ^^17:01
intelikeycat /dev/hda | tar -xj - > /dev/null17:01
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intelikeyooops -cj17:01
mark__i'll give it a try :)17:01
intelikeythat should load it down for a little while17:02
intelikeyVermux   ^17:03
geniiintelikey: I've decided you're devious and evil17:03
genii;)17:03
intelikeygenii ?17:03
intelikeyhe was asking for a stress test.17:03
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intelikeythat's a do nothing stress test if it actually works, i haven't tried it.17:04
Vermuxintelikey: I have dual boot system with windows as well. the computer froze several times. I installed kubuntu yesterday and since then it didnt freeze. I want to have the computer work hard so I can test and see if it freezes or not17:04
Vermuxgenii: ^17:04
intelikeyVermux check that cat string   if it doesn't fail to run it should do the trick17:05
intelikeyVermux   cat /dev/hda | tar -cj - > /dev/null17:05
Vermuxgenii: the freezing not necessarily has connection with using many resources I think but at least I can test it somehow17:05
Vermuxintelikey: ^17:05
intelikeydes quatro17:05
JoshOvkihi17:06
geniiVermux: You may like to check out http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5317   although I do not know if possibly a .deb for it exists someplace17:07
Vermuxintelikey:17:07
Vermuxcat: /dev/hda: No such file or directory17:07
Vermuxtar: -: Cannot stat: No such file or directory17:07
Vermuxtar: Error exit delayed from previous errors17:07
geniiVermux: use sda instead then17:07
intelikeyyeah try sda   in place of hda17:08
intelikeyor what ever your hard drive is17:09
intelikeycat /proc/partitions will show it17:09
intelikeyas would    sudo fdisk -l17:09
LamerManhi everyone! is that possible to create a user without password?17:09
intelikeywhich is less typing17:09
intelikeyLamerMan sure17:10
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intelikeyLamerMan how do you want it to function ?17:10
jcklwhat is the easiest way to set transparency in the titlebars without running a skin?17:10
intelikeyno way to login or login without any password prompt ?17:10
LamerManintelikey, when some user sees a list of users he just clicks on his without typing the password17:11
LamerManthat what i would like to do17:11
LamerMan:)17:11
hydrogenLamerMan: you can do that17:11
hydrogenin systemsettings17:11
hydrogenadvanced, login manager17:11
hydrogenit lets you select what users can log in without a password17:11
Vermuxintelikey: I cant su as root. how do I create a password for the root?17:11
hydrogen!sudo | Vermux17:12
ubotuVermux: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.17:12
hydrogen!root | Vermux17:12
ubotuVermux: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo17:12
hydrogeni was close :/17:12
intelikeyLamerMan you will probably have to adjust your dm to allow it   and then  sudo passwd name -d17:12
LamerManthanks! i'll try advanced, login manager :)17:12
intelikeyVermux sudo passwd root17:12
intelikeyVermux but you probably want to learn a little about sudo   as per the url above ^17:13
geniiintelikey: just sudo passwd works actually17:13
intelikeygenii yes i know that.  but it's good habit to use passwd <name>17:14
intelikeyprevents some common oops's17:14
LamerManin the "advanced, login manager" there's also AutoLogin :) that's exactly what i need17:14
intelikeyLamerMan you can have timed login too17:15
* intelikey uses autologin in the console17:15
ardchoille!supportroot | intelikey17:15
ubotuintelikey: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)17:15
intelikeyardchoille don't grawl at me.  he asked "how do I create a password for the root?"17:16
cmacisHi all. I just got a book on gnome programming, so how can I most easily change from kde to gnome? Is it going to be downloading a ubuntu cd, backing up home and removing kubuntu?17:16
ardchoilleintelikey: Then direct him to the factoid for !sudo17:16
LamerManintelikey, thanks. I'll keep it in mind, now i hope this setting in the "Login manager" will be enough for me17:16
Vermuxintelikey:17:18
Vermuxcat /dev/sda | tar -cj - > /dev/null17:18
Vermuxtar: -: Cannot stat: No such file or directory17:18
Vermuxtar: Error exit delayed from previous errors17:18
intelikeyardchoille i'll do no such a damnd thing.   and you don't need to kick me out,  i can find the door myself.17:18
Odd-rationaleMy system tray got messed up. Instead of having two rows of icons, they line up in one row - which makes the tray rather long. I can't figure out how to put it back.17:18
miladenDoes any1 know how i unrar a file with a password?17:20
jpatrick!unrar17:20
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free17:20
Vermuxgenii: none of it works17:20
VampireKingthis unrar -p pass17:20
llutzmiladen: unrar e file.rar17:21
Odd-rationaleHow do add the system tray back to the panel?17:22
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JoshOvkikde3 or 4?17:24
Odd-rationaleme? kde317:25
nevilleRight click the panel, add applet, select it from the list?17:26
JoshOvkiwhat they said17:26
parkin!ftp17:26
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd17:26
Odd-rationaleneville: Don't find it in the list.17:26
JoshOvkiit should be called Taskbar17:26
JoshOvkiunless you mean the Window List Menu17:27
Odd-rationaleJoshOvki: No, I'm looking for the system tray. the one were the klipper, amarok and the knetworkmanager resides.17:27
JoshOvkihmmm17:28
JoshOvkii just accidentaly closed the whole bloody lot17:28
JoshOvkimine is under as system tray17:29
jussi01Odd-rationale: yeah, its called system tray here also17:29
JoshOvkiit is closed or off screen?17:29
Odd-rationaleJoshOvki: When you right-click the panel and say add applet, Do you find an applet called "system tray"17:30
JoshOvkiyes17:30
JoshOvkibecause you could try right click on the bar at the bottom, remove from panel > Applet  and see if System Tray is listed there17:30
jcklanyone know if i can make my titlebars transparent but where they show the app behind them and not just my wallpaper?17:31
Odd-rationaleJoshOvki: I haven't closed it yet. My problem is that my icons are in one row instead of two. which makes it rather long.17:31
miladenllutz is it like: unrar e file.rar password?17:31
Odd-rationaleJoshOvki: Yes. I find "System Tray" in the remove section. But not in the add. How about you?17:31
ubunturos!kubuntu-offtopic17:32
llutzmiladen: "unrar e file.rar"   it will ask for password automagic17:32
miladenoh ok cool17:32
JoshOvkiwhen it is added it hides from the add17:32
miladenthx17:32
ubunturos!#kubuntu-offtopic17:32
ardchoilleOdd-rationale: You can only add one system tray applet, if it's already in the panel, then you won't find one in the add applet to panel dialog17:32
Odd-rationaleardchoille: OK17:32
JoshOvkiis your panel rather small?17:33
Odd-rationaleJoshOvki: No. it is normal (are we ot. or was that for someone esle)?17:33
ardchoilleOdd-rationale: You're not ot, I think he's hunting17:34
JoshOvkithat was for someone else17:34
JoshOvkiyou could try removing it and re-adding it17:35
Odd-rationaleJoshOvki: That is what I just did. Didn't work.17:35
JoshOvkiok try this17:36
JoshOvkiright click on the bar > Configure Panels17:37
JoshOvkiin size at the bottom change that to custom17:37
JoshOvkiand set it to 48 pixelsa17:37
jontecdoes anyone know how to fix my mouse in xorg.conf? I setup dual screens directly from there, but on my second monitor, my mouse pointer turns into a fuzzy box17:37
Odd-rationaleI found this file ~/.kde/share/config/systemtray_panelappletrc17:37
Odd-rationaleJoshOvki: Are your system tray in two rows or one?17:38
JoshOvki2 now17:38
JoshOvkithey where in 1 when it was set to normal17:38
Odd-rationaleJoshOvki: Can I compare my file to yours?17:38
JoshOvkimine has very little in it17:38
teigreetings all17:39
Odd-rationaleJoshOvki: Like two lines?17:39
JoshOvki[HiddenTrayIcons]17:39
JoshOvkiHidden=17:39
teiquick question, I seem to have made the alt+tab icons disappear.  How do I bring them back?17:39
Odd-rationaleJoshOvki: OK were the some there... My panel is already set to custom: 48 pix17:40
JoshOvkitry setting it larger17:40
JoshOvkior set it to large see what happens17:40
teioh, I also the computer seems to no longer recognize the super (or windows) key17:40
teiwhich means my shortcuts aren't working17:40
teiall this happened with the upgrade to gutsy17:40
Odd-rationaleJoshOvki: That worked. I set it to 54. then back to 48. and now I have two rows! Thank you!17:41
JoshOvkireconfig xorg to include the windows key as a special key would be my guess17:41
JoshOvkino worries :) glad to help17:41
JoshOvkitei if you do recofigure make sure you make a copy of the original xorg17:41
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niallis firefox open source?17:42
niallit must be17:42
Odd-rationaleniall: Yes.17:42
ksivajiyes17:42
teik, I can give that a go, any other ideas to start with though?17:42
Odd-rationaleniall: I think debian has some issues with ff's icon license or something. That is why they came up with iceape.17:43
teior any ideas why alt+tab now just switches windows, without bringing up the menu?17:43
JoshOvkino ideas about the alt+tab17:43
Vermuxhow do I install mount.cifs in kubuntu?17:43
niallit doesn't integrate very well with my KDE theme :/17:43
JoshOvkitei just out of curiosity kde3 or 4?17:43
tei3.5.817:44
jussi01tei: compiz?17:44
teithat's what broke it...17:44
JoshOvkiok17:44
teiit was working, beryl wasn't after the upgrade, so I was installing compiz17:44
JoshOvkiclick the K menu and go to  System Settings17:45
teiI've tried uninstalling compiz though17:45
teiand it still doesn't give me the meny17:45
teimenu, even17:45
niallI didn't think beryl still existed17:45
niallI thought they merged with compiz or something17:45
teiI actually still prefer beryl to compiz17:45
JoshOvkiso you cant get to the start menu?17:45
Pici!beryl17:45
ubotuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz17:45
teiyeah, it's not compiz fuzion17:45
niallyeah17:45
niallthat's what I thought17:45
teino, when I press alt+tab17:45
niallwhich is why I get confused when people always go on about install beryl17:46
teiit just automatically goes to the next window17:46
teimeh, I played with them both17:46
teiand preferred the beryl interface better17:46
teibut anyway17:46
Vermuxgenii: how the link u sent can help test the computer?17:46
teiit doesn't list the windows that are open17:46
Vermuxhow do I install mount.cifs in kubuntu?17:46
teiI'd obviouslly prefer the little preview windows... but even the normal icon with the filename would work17:46
JoshOvkiit looks like your short cut cut has gone wrong, if you cant get into the System Settings you should be able to get it to open17:46
niallis there any way to make firefox integrate better with KDE?17:47
se7en!install | Vermux17:47
ubotuVermux: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate17:47
se7en!apt17:48
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)17:48
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kobzecihi everbody i am usind kubuntu 7.10,and i cant get into KDE 4 desktop while my ati driver is enabled from settings,splash screen of KDE 4  just reboots,when i disbale drivers i can get into it but the desktop effects are crashing the screen17:49
kobzecii have ati radeon 955017:49
ardchoillekobzeci: kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde417:50
kobzecioh sorry i am noob17:50
JoshOvkitei open up a terminal if you can and try   systemsettings17:50
kobzeci:)17:50
ardchoillekobzeci: np :)17:50
teiI can get to system settings17:50
JoshOvkiok, clock Keyboard & Mouse17:50
JoshOvki*click17:50
teik17:50
JoshOvkiFind  Walk Through  Windows17:51
Vermuxwho can help me? I want to test my computer. it was freezing with windows. now, after I installed kubuntu it didnt freeze yet. I want to test the computer- to put some pressure to test its ability17:51
tei? under keyboard and mouse?17:51
JoshOvkisorry, under Keyboard Shortcuts17:52
teik17:52
teiit says alt+tab17:52
JoshOvkihmmm17:52
se7enwhat do you want to do Vermux17:52
teiit works17:52
teiit just doesn't show me the options17:52
teiwhich makes it very hard to scroll though the windows17:53
teidoes that make sense?17:53
JoshOvkiwhats the shortcut scheme set to?17:53
teiwhen I hit alt+tab, it just jumps right to the next window... if I hold alt and hit it again, it goes on to the next window... but with 10+ windows open, and no idea of the order it's going to scroll in17:54
teiit's set to KDE default for 4 modifier keys17:54
Kamilovhi all17:54
JoshOvkitry that as kde defult for 4 modifer keys, just to see what appens17:54
KamilovCan I ask a question ?17:55
se7enmount.cifs is part of the samba Vermux17:55
Vermuxse7en: I want to have my computer work hard, raise the system load. The reason is that I suspect that something is not good with the hardware as I stated that when running windows my computer froze several times17:55
se7en!ask | Kamilov17:55
ubotuKamilov: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)17:55
teihrm... interesting17:55
JoshOvki?17:55
teiwhen I try to reset the shortcuts17:56
teiit registers the super key17:56
JoshOvkihmmm17:56
Vermuxse7en: now, after I installed kubuntu(dual boot with windows) I want to check the hardware. (so far the computer didnt freeze with kubuntu17:56
teibut the second I hit another key (r in this case) it just does that key, not the combo17:56
JoshOvkihmmm17:56
se7enand why do you need mount.cifs for that17:56
JoshOvkiwhat did superkey - r  do for you before?17:57
se7enVermux: http://linux.die.net/man/8/mount.cifs17:57
KamilovOK, well I've got the problem with folder sharing. In Dolphin/Konqueror using Share tab. It's written: You need to be authorized to share folders. I can click on "configure folder sharing" button, then it asks me for root password, and  nothing happens17:57
teisame thing as alt +f2... opened up the run dialog17:57
teisuper e opened konqueror17:57
teietc17:58
Vermuxse7en: the reason for that is that a friend of mine tryied me to get a big file from hi (mpeg2) and told me to try to convert it to mpeg4 (in this way the computer will work hard17:58
teibasically, I was just mapping over the normal windows keyboard shortcuts17:58
Vermuxse7en: and I tried to get the file using samba17:58
JoshOvkiah kk, so its lost them all17:59
teimore than that...17:59
teiit won't let me re-add them17:59
JoshOvkiah17:59
Vermuxse7en: I was trying this command: mount -t smbfs username or mount -t cifs username17:59
teiI can set the shortcut to R, but not windows + r17:59
teiI thought it wasn't registering the windows key17:59
teibut it looks like it was, it just won't let me do windows key combo's18:00
JoshOvkihmmm18:00
JoshOvkii just gotta head to lunch18:00
teik, thanks for trying18:00
JoshOvkii shall be back as soon as i can18:00
se7enVermux: use dolphin or konqueror18:00
se7en!samba18:00
ubotuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.18:00
se7enor read about samba18:01
Vermuxse7en: ok, since it is too early for me to learn samba in this point, maybe u have an idea how to test the system18:01
teiI thought it was reccomended to use cifs instead of samba nowadays?18:01
teiI use cifs for my network shares and it works fine... samba crapped out all over the place for me18:01
kobzecii just checked ati web site and the have a new driver 8.452 launched today 64bit http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/linux64-radeon.html how long will it take to packegae it and announce :)18:08
acidBURNbug with konqueror (flashplugin)18:15
Vermuxwho can help me18:17
sigma_1234how do you set the ip address of a computer via the command line?18:18
VermuxI would like to use badblocks to check the harddrive18:18
sigma_1234or manually?18:18
Chrononautsigma_1234: ifconfig18:18
emilsedghsigma_1234: ifconfig18:18
emilsedghsigma_1234: ifconfig etch0 IPAdress18:19
slow-motionhi18:19
LamerManone another question, i created a user and now it can't use kppp (it does not have enough rights). member of what group should i make that user to make it possible for him to use kppp?18:19
oscar_Hi! Can somebody help me with a problem?18:19
sigma_1234thanks guys18:19
acidBURNanyone make a package .deb for firefox 3 beta 3 tks18:19
emilsedgh!ask | oscar_18:20
ubotuoscar_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)18:20
LamerMankppp is a program to connect to the internet via modem18:20
oscar_I installed kubuntu 7.10, Now i am strangely running a dist upgrade to 7.10 (wtf?), now, after dl'ing the files, it doesnt install, it has freezed...what can i do?18:21
Vermuxoscar_: I had the same problem18:21
Vermuxgot to go though18:22
oscar_:(18:22
oscar_did u solve it?18:22
oscar_pls tell how18:22
Vermuxjust install it18:22
sigma_1234dont do the upgrade perhaps?18:22
oscar_but it has freezed. it has been on 0 % installing for 20 min now18:23
Vermuxdo dpkg --configure -a18:23
oscar_if i try to close it, kubuntu says my os will be damaged18:23
oscar_can i just close it?18:25
oscar_now i did.18:26
oscar_=)18:26
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sigma_1234why dont you just reinstall kubuntu? and not run the upgrade?18:26
dandielionousI am having trouble getting a web page to print out correctly for my job.  The techy wrote it in perl for ie explorer.  Any suggestions?\18:27
oscar_i have reinstalled kubuntu like 5 times in two days beacouse of a bug in the graphics....dont want to do it again. this was first time this upgrade shit came up18:27
sigma_1234well theres the problem right there18:28
dandielionousI am trying to use kubuntu on my job.  I keep telling everyone how great linux is then can't get it to work correctly.18:28
sigma_1234you should disable updates18:28
JoshOvkihey18:28
dandielionousI can find the editor for kubuntu on my puter at home.  I can't find it on my browser here at work.  I suppose it updated and I wasn't aware of it.18:30
dandielionousI'm trying to change the default profile so I can print out those html perl scripted web pages correctly. ;)18:30
JoshOvkithrough command line?18:30
JoshOvkior not?18:31
dandielionousNo I was using the gui for konquerer18:31
JoshOvkikk18:31
dandielionousStill pretty new to kubuntu and linux in general.18:31
dandielionousI hate to copy and paste everything into open office.18:32
dandielionousIt prints it out perfectly.18:32
JoshOvkido you know how to change the application to open the files with?18:32
blackflagsince I did a upgrade to KDE 4.0 I dont have sound with kaffeine and amarok18:32
blackflagwhat is wrong ?18:32
blackflagcan someone help?18:32
dandielionousWhat do you mean/18:32
dandielionous?18:33
dandielionousI know how to read help files. lol18:33
dandielionousLast night at home I was working with it and it said about the editor that was incorporated into konquer.18:34
dandielionousNow I can't find that editor.18:34
dandielionousIt had on there where I could change from a normal profile to a printer profile.18:34
dandielionousThere I could change the default language for printing out web pages.18:34
JoshOvkiclick the   K (start) > run command   type   kwrite    is that the program you are looking for?18:35
dandielionousApparently when I change the fonts and colors for me to view it doesn't change how it prints.18:35
JoshOvkiarg im confused :P18:35
dandielionousAre kwrite settings the ones that konqueror uses to print out web pages?18:35
dandielionousYou know the css stylings for me to display web pages with?18:36
dandielionousI changed those to use my settings but it doesn't affect how it prints out. sigh18:36
dandielionousIs kwrite the editor incorporated into konqueror?18:36
dandielionousThat would make a lot of sense.18:37
JoshOvkikwrite is the default editor for kde18:37
WinstonSmithdon't forget Kate18:37
dandielionousOkay ty JoshOvki :) I will try that.  I feel a light bulb went off.18:37
dandielionousWhat about kate?18:37
jussi01!info kate18:37
ubotukate: advanced text editor for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2.1 (gutsy), package size 798 kB, installed size 2248 kB18:37
dandielionousOkay but does Konqueror use kate for printing out web pages?18:38
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dandielionousI have web based forms I have to print out at work.18:38
JoshOvkiok, so your looking for printing out the page not the code?18:38
arrrghhhso how do you change repos in kubuntu?18:39
dandielionousRight printing out the page the way I see it.18:39
JoshOvkiok18:39
arrrghhhin ubuntu i was easy, i could even let synaptic select the 'best' server18:39
dandielionousrepos?18:39
dandielionousIt's displaying fine.18:39
JoshOvkicant you just open it in konqueror and select   Location > Print?18:39
dandielionousBut when I do CTRL + P it prints all different fonts.18:39
kyewhat's the unix command to move everything in one folder to another? mv * /home/path/18:39
arrrghhhthe main repo is giving me a 403 forbidden error when i try to update with adept18:39
dandielionousmmmm let me check that18:39
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JoshOvkithen in the print window in HTML settings untick printer friendly mode18:40
dandielionousYeah I can go location > print but it still does the same thing.18:40
dandielionousuntick printer friendly mode?18:41
JoshOvkiyes18:41
dandielionouskk let me check that18:41
JoshOvkicp -R /source/folder /new/path18:41
arrrghhhso is there a way in kubuntu to change repos from a list?  synaptic made it really easy, had a big list of official repos to select from18:41
JoshOvkithen rm -R /source/folder    (carefull with the seccond command)18:41
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dandielionousI think we may be on to something here.18:42
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dandielionousIs that rm -R/source/folder for me, JoshOvki?18:43
JoshOvkino18:43
JoshOvkino kye18:43
JoshOvki*for18:43
dandielionouskk ty :)18:43
dandielionousGoing to see what happens with the printer friendly mode.18:43
dandielionousExactly what does that effect?18:43
dandielionousDo you know?18:43
llp78hi k3b wont let me burn audio cd's.. the files are already in *.wav format but everytime errors and wont actually start to record18:44
JoshOvkidandielionous that makes all text black no no background image18:44
arrrghhhi don't want to use archive.canocial.com for my repo, when i try to update with adept i get a 403 forbidden error on the xserver-xorg-core packge update18:44
arrrghhhllp78: what's the error18:44
dandielionousOkay I found system settings for printing also :)18:44
dandielionousGoing to play with this a bit. :)18:44
jussi01!xbug | arrrghhh18:44
ubotuarrrghhh: The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.18:44
dandielionousThank-you so much JoshOvki :)18:44
JoshOvkino problem dandielionous18:45
dandielionousI shall return and let you know if I succeed. :)18:45
llp78arrrghhh: something like "cd recorder does not like the medium", but ive tried several makes of cdr and still the same error18:45
arrrghhhoh18:45
jussi01arrrghhh: :)18:45
arrrghhhjussi01: thanks18:45
jussi01arrrghhh: np's18:45
arrrghhhmy dad just converted to linux, and he was freakin out from these updates not working... and when i tried to update i noticed the same thing lol18:45
llp78arrrghhh: do i need an audio lib file or anything extra than the k3b burning app?18:46
jussi01arrrghhh: there is usually a good explanation18:46
ibou_is it normal that when i click on a .deb hyperlink like this one http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/ubuntu/envy_0.9.9-0ubuntu6_all.deb on konqueror i open kate instead of gdebi ?18:46
arrrghhhllp78: try a different disc, make sure cd is blank, etc18:46
jussi01!envy | ibou_:18:46
ubotuibou_:: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »18:46
llp78arrrghhh: tried loads of blank cdr's different makes etc18:46
JoshOvkiis a seperate plugin for wavs?18:46
arrrghhhjussi01: yea, i just wanted to know what it was, adept just said "there was a problem updating some packages, couldn't make docmmit, etc."18:46
arrrghhhllp78: and you can burn other things?  like data?18:47
niallyeah18:47
niallmy update just failed also18:47
llp78arrrghhh i can burn dvd's and data yep18:47
niallI tried to fix it using apt18:47
JoshOvkimy failed earlier18:47
arrrghhhhrm18:47
niallbut it didn't work18:47
jussi01niall: dont...18:47
jussi01it will be fixed soon18:47
niall'Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_amd64.deb  403 Forbidden'18:47
niall:<18:47
arrrghhhllp78: that's strange... can you burn mp3's?18:47
llp78arrrghhh as data yep18:47
arrrghhhbut not as audio18:47
arrrghhhlike letting k3b convert it to an audio cd doesn't work18:48
llp78arrrghhh: you got it18:48
arrrghhhvery strange18:48
arrrghhhyou've stumped me, i've never had a problem like that with k3b18:48
ibou_jussi01: my hyperlink is just an example18:48
llp78arrrghhh: i converted to *.wav using lame18:48
ibou_is it normal that when i click on a .deb hyperlink like this one http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/ubuntu/envy_0.9.9-0ubuntu6_all.deb on konqueror i open kate instead of gdebi ?18:48
arrrghhhllp78: what about letting k3b convert it18:48
arrrghhhk3b will convert it on the fly for you18:48
llp78arrrghhh: same error18:48
arrrghhhhrm18:48
jussi01!repeat > ibou_18:48
arrrghhhyea i'm outta ideas18:48
whitedafyi #ubuntu topic says -  Security repository is currently broken, stay tuned for a fix18:48
jussi01ibou_: that happens for me too18:49
arrrghhhibou_: we've told you what you need to do.  quit using envy.18:49
whitedathats the reason for the update errors18:49
niallI see18:49
ibou_arrrghhh: i dont use envy18:49
jatzhey, quick question18:49
JoshOvkiits quite confusing so many help topics at once18:49
arrrghhhibou_: that's an envy script you're linkin to18:49
jussi01ibou_: please use a different example then18:49
JoshOvkijatz fire away18:49
llp78arrrghhh: cheers for your input,, gonna try the terminal to burn a single Wav18:49
ibou_arrrghhh: yes but that's not the point18:50
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jatzI've got my 500gb external usb/firewire hd in ext2 now18:50
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ibou_the point is that that example of link open kate18:50
JoshOvkilip othing option is use a different burner18:50
jussi01!nickspam > muza__18:50
JoshOvkiok jatz whats the problem?18:50
jatzJoshOvki: but now, it says 435.1 GB out of 458.4GB (6% used)18:50
jussi01ibou_: just right click, then download it, then open it18:50
JoshOvkimight have a partition?18:51
jatzwell,18:51
jatzI did fdisk /dev/sdb18:51
jatzchecked the partition table18:51
jatzonly one there.18:52
jatz   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System18:52
arrrghhhibou_: no that is the point.  use the restricted drivers manager, works like a charm18:53
grulhttp://www.kongregate.com/games/HeroInteractive/stormwinds-1-518:53
jatz   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System18:53
jatz /dev/sdb1               1       60801   488384001   83  Linux18:53
Kamilovhi18:53
JoshOvkihmmm18:54
larryMy new 500GB usb2 drive, mounted as /dev/sde1, spins-down after some minutes.  When I then try to read or write to it, I get io errors.  I have read the HOWTOs I though applicable.  I think the kernel mod usb_storage may affect settings, but don't know where to read about it.  Help?18:54
KamilovI've got the problem with local network - none of computers in my workgroup can access my computer (I can't even target self), getting NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED18:55
blizzzekhi18:55
jussi01!hi18:55
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!18:55
JoshOvkijatz just had a quick look online, and it appears about 5 - 6% is automaticaly grabbed for root18:56
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jatzah, thanks a lot.18:57
jatzwhat do you mean by that, though? just curious now.18:57
JoshOvkii like ext3 does it for root,   Ext2 also reserves 5% of the drive space for "runtime processes."18:58
JckfAfter I used manual config for my wireless card, knetwork manager won't automatically detect networks anymore. How can I reset it?18:58
frojndis someone here willing to help me out configure codecs ? I missed something up and now I can't watch divx, mpeg, all kind of movies in fullscreen mode. If I do full screen picture is made by big squares.. Can someone help me out clean the codecs ??18:58
JoshOvkisudo tune2fs -m 0 /dev/xxx    is supposed to remove it, take a look here >    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64918818:58
jatzJoshOvki: so wait, it'll steal another 5% on top of the 6%? or am I misreading you.18:58
jatzokay18:59
jatzthanks much18:59
thewhitepelicanit appears kde4 games is borked18:59
thewhitepelicanhow long till it's fixed?18:59
JoshOvkijatz let me know if it works ok18:59
jatzI will.18:59
JoshOvkijckf i had the same problem a while ago and i wasnt able to find a solution apart from re-installing. someone might have a solution here tho19:00
jatzJoshOvki: I'm gonna try it now. I'm guessing /dev/xxx would be the device. and is getting rid of the runtime space dangerous at all?19:01
jatzcause this is an external disk, just using it to store videos and such.19:01
larryjatz: It might ruin whether fsck works correctly.19:02
JoshOvkijatz: is your kubuntu install on it or is that on a different drive?19:02
jatzshould I use /dev/sdb or sdb1 for tune2fs19:02
jatzJoshOvki: different drive19:02
tlaytonhey all. i found this comment in the netbeans start script.  "Ubuntu uses the ancient Bourne shell, which does not implement trap well."  is there a better alternative?19:03
JoshOvkisdb i think as that means the whole driive, not a specific partition19:03
JoshOvkibut before oyu do19:03
JoshOvkiis there anything on the drive?19:03
jatznot a thing19:03
ForgeAusshells? theres heaps19:03
JoshOvkithats ok then, you can reformat it if it goes wrong. Not that i expect it to19:03
jatzalright19:04
JoshOvkigl19:04
jatzhm19:04
jatzcan't find valid filesystem superblock19:04
jatzso I'm guessing it wants sdb119:04
larryMy new 500GB usb2 drive, mounted as /dev/sde1, spins-down after some minutes.  When I then try to read or write to it, I get io errors.  I have read the HOWTOs I though applicable.  I think the kernel mod usb_storage may affect settings, but don't know where to read about it.  Help?19:04
shadow255I'm having issues with an update that became available today (Feisty)19:04
jatzsince that's the parition19:04
JoshOvkiyeh gotta be worth a go19:04
tlaytonForgeAus: what about dash?19:04
shadow255Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb  403 Forbidden19:04
ForgeAusc or tc shell  bourne again shell, zsh, (I think ubuntu actually uses dash instead of bash or something)... not sure about pdksh19:04
jpatrick!xbug | shadow25519:05
ubotushadow255: The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.19:05
shadow255jpatrick: thanks19:05
jatzJoshOvki: it's a go19:05
JoshOvkicool19:05
jatz4584. GB out of 458.4 GB.19:05
thewhitepelicanubotu, is that a possible reason for kde4games to be broken?19:06
ForgeAusI'm sure I've heard of a perlshell before from somewhere, not sure if its one of the big ones19:06
JoshOvkijatz is that what it says or did you type it wrong?19:06
jatzJoshOvki: woops, yeah, typo there19:06
jatz >_>19:06
JoshOvkithats good to know :) i was a bit confused then, i thought you had managed   10x  your disk space19:07
JoshOvkiand you have no plans to use that drive with windows correct?19:07
frojndwhat's the name of package that installs codecs for avi movies ?19:10
frojndand please don't give me the codecs link19:10
jussi01kubuntu-restricted-extras19:11
jpatrick!info libxine1-ffmpeg19:11
ubotulibxine1-ffmpeg: mpeg related plugins for libxine1. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 435 kB, installed size 908 kB19:11
JckfJoshOvki: Clearing everything related to said interface from /etc/network/interfaces helped me =)19:13
JoshOvkiah cool, i will keep that in mind, Thanks jckf, you will save me a reinstall next time i screw up my networking :P19:13
JckfI still can't connect with knetworkmanager though. It shows the networks and allow me to try, but it doesn't connect. It shows a message saying that it is configuring the interface, then nothing happens.19:15
Jckf*allows19:15
JoshOvkihmmm19:16
JoshOvkiin knetwork is it set to roaming?19:16
JckfWhere can I check that?19:16
JoshOvkithat might be gnome one acctualy19:16
JoshOvkii would look on mine but i dont want to screw up my network :P again19:17
Jckfx)19:17
JoshOvkiin terminal if you hit     iwconfig    what displays19:18
suihi19:18
JoshOvkifor   mode?19:18
JoshOvkihi sui19:18
JckfManaged19:18
JoshOvkiand EESID?19:19
JckfNo such thing, since its not connected.19:19
JoshOvkikk. where you able to connect before you tryed the manual route?19:20
JckfNo19:20
JoshOvkiok19:20
JoshOvkidoes ur router have any security19:20
JoshOvkimac filtering, WAP / WEP?19:20
JckfWEP19:20
JoshOvkidoes anything popup asking you for the WEP addess?19:20
JoshOvki*key19:20
JckfYes. And I'm entering the correct one.19:21
JoshOvkiok19:21
JoshOvkicould you dissable it temporeroly?19:21
JoshOvkior dont you have that much access to it?19:21
JckfI do, but that would leave me disconnected from the internet for a while since I'll have to do it with two routers. Running WDS here19:22
frojndwhat's the name of package that installs codecs for avi movies ? anypne ?19:22
omega_Hi there.19:22
omega_I suddenly found that I can no longer ssh into my machine. I get the error; no buffer space available.19:22
JoshOvkilibavifile-0.7c2     ?19:23
StrangeletMy computer typically boots up into GNOME but logs in to KDE, how do I set it is a Kubuntu interface all the way?19:23
omega_Does anyone know how to fix this? I did some googling, but there doesn't seem to be much info on the error that, or I didn't understand what people were talking about.19:23
suigot a question about knetworkmanager and my wireless connection: after my last update I can't get any wireless connection. it's a ipw2200 chipset and the module loads without error. with iwlist eth1 scan I get a list of networks around. but with knetworkmanager it's not possible to get onlne and I can't change settings manually because iwpriv tells me taht it does not understand "set" (iwpriv set AuthMode=WPAPSK19:23
suiso... what can I do? reinstall?19:23
zizzfizzixw32codec?19:24
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zizzfizzixfrojnd^19:24
frojndzizzfizzix, yes?19:24
zizzfizzixi think so19:24
frojndI mean zizzfizzix yes19:24
niallgmail doesn't seem to work in konquerer19:24
frojndzizzfizzix, also the standars codecs19:24
niallit never gets past the Loading... page19:25
zizzfizzixfrojnd: which one?19:25
smerili am looking for the command touse for skin change i have already downloaded a skin and i want to install and use it19:25
JoshOvkikonquerer is odd with gmail because of the javascript i belive19:25
frojndzizzfizzix, I know there is a package19:25
JoshOvkijckf  disabling the WEP is just a way of testing if its a security thing causing the problem19:26
suismeril: take a look at kcontrol19:26
smerilthanks19:26
zizzfizzixfrojnd but?19:26
JoshOvkidein terminal run    apt-cache search avi plugin19:26
zizzfizzixfrojnd: then what do u want?19:26
JoshOvkisorry, i mean frojnd19:26
smerilthank you it works19:27
frojndzizzfizzix, multimeda something restricted19:27
JoshOvkifrojnd you dont need   avifile-divx-plugin  do you?19:28
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frojndJoshOvki,  no19:28
frojndJoshOvki,  I need somethin multimedia or what's the name, I can't recall it19:29
zizzfizzixfrojnd, libavcodec?19:29
StrangeletMy computer typically boots up into GNOME but logs in to KDE, how do I set it is a Kubuntu interface all the way?\19:30
frojndzizzfizzix, can you pvt me and type me all the package names that you remeber ?19:30
zizzfizzixcant you just type in search field in adept/synaptic codec?19:30
zizzfizzixfrojnd i mean^19:31
frojndzizzfizzix, is there any "global" name for most of those codecs ?19:32
frojndfor a package19:32
zizzfizzixtheir names are different19:32
zizzfizzixso better search in adept/synaptic19:32
JoshOvkiStrangelet  run       sudo dpkg-reconfigure      in termial19:33
JoshOvkioops sorry19:33
JoshOvkisudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm19:34
StrangeletJoshOvki: Heh, thanks :)19:34
zizzfizzixfrojnd, and in w32codecs there are many different codecs19:34
StrangeletJoshOvki: woww, a lot easier than I expected. XD19:34
flipmodeI cant get my dvd player to work right kubuntu 7.0419:34
JoshOvkiit worked then? :)19:34
JoshOvkiflipmode whats it doing / not doing?19:35
flipmodek3b says dma disabled how do i fix this?19:35
ForgeAushow do you configure /eth0 outside of X?19:35
ForgeAusapt-get wasn't finding/installing packages19:35
JoshOvkiForgeAus   in terminal run     man ifconfig    and read that19:36
ForgeAus(even though I managed to fix the package that was causing me headaches I couldn't download new ones or replacement ones for stuff I lost when I lost my /etc19:36
ForgeAusok thanx Josh :)19:36
flipmodeJoshOvki: sometimes it will play but it makes everything really choppy19:36
zizzfizzixanyone know how can i run restricted-manager-kde?19:36
zizzfizzixit tells me that i need linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-server19:37
zizzfizzixbut i cant install this:/19:37
JoshOvkiflipmode what are you using to play them?19:38
blue|palmHow do I get flash to work in konqueror? (What is required?)19:38
frojndthis is insane..19:38
frojndmy full screen won't work properly19:38
jussi01!flash | blue|palm19:38
ubotublue|palm: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash19:38
frojndI see squares..19:38
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.19:38
frojnd:S19:38
ForgeAusI don't think flash is meant to work in konqui19:38
ForgeAusI could be wrong tho19:38
flipmodeJoshOvki: I have tried totem kaffeine and m player19:39
JoshOvkizizzfizzix in terminal run  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-server      see what happens19:39
JoshOvkiflipmode  try    vlc19:39
ForgeAusblue I'd recommend you use firefox for flash19:39
flipmodeJoshOvki: I have also tried vlc19:39
blue|palmForgeAus, I'm on kde4 so I'm just messing around really, but thanks for the heads up... I guess its problematic?19:40
JoshOvkihmmm19:40
zizzfizzixJoshOvki, told you:  Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-server19:40
JoshOvkiflipmode  what spec is your pc19:40
JoshOvkijust checking zizzfizzix19:40
flipmodeJoshOvki: It is a p4 1.5 ghz 768mb ram19:40
JoshOvkiin that case zizzfizzix try      sudo apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules19:41
zizzfizzixJoshOvki, do you know how to obtain it?19:41
JoshOvkiflipmode: so its a decent machine then19:41
flipmodeJoshOvki: Yes19:41
zizzfizzixJoshOvki, there are few packages but no interesting19:42
zizzfizzixnot*19:42
JoshOvkiflipmode: hmmmmm, if the file is on your machine is it any better?19:42
flipmodeJoshOvki: in storage media it shows a folder for the drive?19:42
zizzfizzixinstead server there is ie. generic, xen etc19:42
flipmodeJoshOvki: what do you mean19:43
JoshOvkizizzfizzix: what repositiorys have you got?19:43
zizzfizzixJoshOvki, that is the question..19:43
JoshOvkiflipmode: if you try playing a video file from your pc rather than from DVD is it any better?19:43
zizzfizzixJoshOvki, many19:43
flipmodeJoshOvki: I havnt tried give me a minute ill try19:44
zizzfizzixJoshOvki, should i show u my sources.list?19:44
JoshOvkiyeh ok19:44
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zizzfizzixJoshOvki, yes?19:45
JoshOvkizizzfizzix: yes please19:45
Vermuxwho knows how to use badblocks?19:45
zizzfizzixJoshOvki, here? i think its too long19:46
steinerhippohi @ all, does anybody know, how to change a pdf icon, because every time after a change either in kcontrol or in the properties of a pdf file, the netscape icon is shown again, and in kcontrol under embed, there is nsplugin, wich always comes again after i removed it -.-19:46
flipmodeJoshOvki: I tried a video from youtube and it is working fine19:46
JoshOvkican u send it to me as a file, or upload it to  pastefile19:46
JoshOvkizizzfizzix ^^19:46
zizzfizzixJoshOvki, wait a sec19:47
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JoshOvkiflipmode,  does it only have problems in full screen or just any size?19:47
flipmodeJoshOvki: Any size19:48
JoshOvkieven odder19:48
jckli am tring to compile the newest kernel and getting an eror19:48
jcklerror*19:48
jcklIn file included from scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:24:19:48
jcklscripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:32:20: error: curses.h: No such file or directory19:48
jckli have all the ncurses packages i could find installed19:49
stdin!kernel19:49
ubotuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages19:49
Vermuxwho can help with badblocks?19:49
JoshOvkiflipmode: you in gutsy?19:49
Vermuxwww.hotmail.com19:49
jckli know i dont need to compile it.. i could upgrade or whatever but this is a clean install i want to learn on ;)19:49
Vermuxsorry.. who can help with badblocks?19:50
stdinjckl: the 2nd link ;)19:50
zizzfizzixJoshOvki, accept please :)19:50
JoshOvkizizz i would ig i had any where to accept to :S19:51
jcklthanks19:51
zizzfizzixhymm19:51
flipmodeJoshOvki: I dont think so i really dont remember how can i find out19:52
zizzfizzixJoshOvki, got acceptance question?19:52
Vermuxhow do I delete an address in the address bar without selecting the text?19:52
JoshOvkizizzfizzix:  no i didnt19:53
zizzfizzixJoshOvki, rapid can be?19:53
JoshOvkizizzfizzix  pardon?:S19:54
zizzfizzixJoshOvki: rapidshare.com19:55
JoshOvkiflipmode: you know what version you are,  6.x  7.x  etc?19:55
JoshOvkizizzfizzix: yeh that will be ok19:55
zizzfizzixJoshOvki: http://rapidshare.com/files/84839491/source.txt.html19:55
zizzfizzixJoshOvki: please tell when u get this19:56
ubunturoswhy am I getting 403 for an apt-get upgrade (even with --fix-missing)19:57
flipmodeJoshOvki: It tells me there is a version upgrade I thought it was 7.04?19:57
ubunturos(a security update is available) (dapper)19:57
JoshOvkibrb all19:57
jcklstdin: i am still getting the same error19:58
NickPrestaubunturos, we're all getting it. I would assume an update for that package or fix is coming very soon.19:59
JoshOvkiflipmode: Do you have compiz installed?19:59
ubunturosNickPresta: hmm, ok.19:59
flipmodeJoshOvki: ???20:00
jpatrick!xbug20:00
ubotuThe latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, which is why you currently get a "403 Forbidden" error.20:00
NickPrestathanks, jpatrick20:00
zizzfizzix JoshOvki: can u write to me email when you'll find out whats about whit my repo list?20:00
ubunturosomg java :(20:00
stdinjckl: do you have libncurses5-dev ?20:00
jcklaw20:00
jpatrickNickPresta: you're welcome20:00
JoshOvkizizzfizzix: it looks pretty simular to mine, u got everything enabled that i have20:01
flipmodeJoshOvki: i am installing now20:01
JoshOvkii didnt want it installed, i was just making sure that u didnt :P20:01
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JoshOvkiso remove it when it finishes20:01
zizzfizzixJoshOvki: and u have this package?20:01
zizzfizzixJoshOvki; in repo i mean20:02
JoshOvkizizzfizzix:  can you run   uname -r  and post me the result20:02
jcklis there a way i can build all the dev packages?20:02
flipmodeJoshOvki: what will that do?20:02
jcklor all the important ones20:02
JoshOvkiits something that does funky desktop effects20:02
zizzfizzixJoshOvki: 2.6.22-14-server20:02
JoshOvkialthough have been known to cause jumpy videos20:02
stdinjckl: I'd try "sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r)" for a start20:03
Black_Monkey!apt-fix20:03
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »20:03
zizzfizzixJoshOvki: my kernel is bad?20:03
zizzfizzixJoshOvki: maybe i should change it?20:04
JoshOvkizizzfizzix: no, i was just checking something20:04
JoshOvkimost people have genearl20:04
JoshOvkigeneral*20:04
zizzfizzixthen what should i do?20:04
zizzfizzix:]20:04
jckli did sudo apt-get build-dep linux-source-2.6.23    also that package fixed my prob20:04
jcklthanks20:04
val0tried to update my system this morning using adept installer. it updated all but 1 package. X.org, fails with the same error every time "Cannot commit changes. Problem downloading or the commit would break package" when tried to update manually (apt-get update/upgrade) I get Failed to Fetch, 403 forbidden. Any ideas?20:04
JoshOvkii dont think that the restricted modules are available for  the server version20:05
zizzfizzixJoshOvki: sholud i change this version?20:05
zizzfizzixJoshOvki: and how?20:05
zizzfizzix:]20:05
suihow can i reinstall the wireless stack? i meam all packages belonging to ieee80211 and kernelmodules and avahi network management?20:06
zizzfizzixJoshOvki: ok i must go, anyway thank u for your help20:07
zizzfizzixbye20:07
JoshOvkibah i just had a sollution for him aswell20:07
flipmodeJoshOvki: so its still the same?20:07
JoshOvkiflipmode do you have  libdvdcss2   installed?20:09
JoshOvkifor DVD playback20:09
andreas__hello20:10
andreas__i have  a question20:10
andreas__how can i open a password protected rar file in linux?20:10
JoshOvkiandreas: do you know the password to the file?20:10
sui*phew* just can"t get my wireless connection to work.20:11
JoshOvkisui what happens?20:11
suiJoshOvki: since my last update I don't get any wireless connection20:12
JoshOvkicant see the access point?20:12
suiJoshOvki: its a ipw2200 chipset and driver loads without errors, but knetworkmanager soes not give me any settings for wireless connections20:13
flipmodeJoshOvki: Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.20:13
flipmodeThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or20:13
flipmodeis only available from another source20:13
flipmodeE: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate20:13
suiJoshOvki: I can see it with iwlist eth1 scan20:13
jpatrick!paste > flipmode20:13
suiflipmode: did you activate multiverse rpositories?20:14
flipmodesui: how do i do this?20:15
jpatrick!multiverse | flipmode20:15
ubotuflipmode: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu20:15
suiedit your /etc/apt/sources.list or use adept or any other package manager20:16
suiJoshOvki: do you have any suggestion for me?20:16
JoshOvkisui: im think20:17
JoshOvki(ing20:17
JoshOvki:P20:17
suiJoshOvki: I tried it manually, ith knetworkmanager and with wpa_supplicant20:17
sui+w20:17
JoshOvkihave you tryed wifiradar?20:17
JoshOvkiacctualy, its not called tjhat20:17
suiJoshOvki: it"s not installed. but i can giveit a try.20:18
geniiback20:18
JoshOvkiwifi-radar20:18
suiJoshOvki: firt I have to activate cable connection on the laptop20:18
StrangeletHey, quick q., how do I find out what version of Kubuntu I have?20:19
JoshOvkisui: it is set to managed mode aswell isnt it?20:19
NickPrestaStrangelet, in a Konsole, type: lsb_release -a20:20
suiJoshOvki: yes ist is20:20
StrangeletNickPresta: ah, thanks :)20:20
suiJoshOvki: but I will check this.. mom20:20
JoshOvkisui: okie dokie20:21
StrangeletNickPresta: Hm, it does say what version of KDE i have20:21
geniiStrangelet: To find what dist: lsb_release -a           to see what kde version, rightclick Kmenu...Panel Menu...Help...About KDE20:21
Strangeletgenii: oh! I see, tahnks :)20:22
geniiStrangelet: np20:22
Vermuxwho can help with screen resolution?20:22
Vermuxeven though I changed the resolution in system settings it stays the same after I click "apply"20:23
suiJoshOvki: sry, can"t tell you exactly. my router does not give me any information about the mode it uses20:24
JoshOvkisui: in terminal run    iwconfig20:24
JoshOvkiand look for mode20:24
suiJoshOvki: mode: managed20:25
JoshOvkiok20:25
suieth1 unassociated ESSID:"sui"20:25
JoshOvkithats right20:25
JoshOvkiis ur access point called sui?20:25
Szalnvermux, you need to restart the xserver, even the computer20:25
VermuxSzaln: but in my other computer I succeeding changing it without restarting it20:26
suiJoshOvki: iwconfig means Access-Point: Not-Associated20:26
Szalnbe sure that you adjust the resolution as root and your user, to apply it to the login splash and your own desktop20:26
Szalni don't know why, but it was the only way it works for me20:27
Szalntoday i got my new lcd, and i did that way20:27
zorglu_q. i look for car game on kubuntu, what is available ?20:28
VermuxSzaln: ALSO WHEN i CHANGED IT WITH ADMINISTRATIVE MODE IT STAYS THE SAME20:28
Szalnyes, do it with and without admin privileges20:29
Szalnand then restart20:29
JoshOvkisui: whats in you   /etc/network/interfaces   ?20:29
JoshOvki*your20:29
VermuxSzaln: aaa, so I need to restart20:30
achilleshi so i just installed the mp3 codec using amarok it all works now flv mpeg mp3 ect ... but my lord of the rings dvd still won't play :( any help?20:30
Vermuxok, be right back20:30
Szalnyes, try that20:30
suiJoshOvki: auto eth1 <CR> iface eth1 inet dhcp20:30
JoshOvkieth1  your wifi device?20:30
suiJoshOvki: yes20:30
JoshOvkicopy the file for backup and delete all the content20:31
achillesim downloading vlc player right now will that help?20:31
suiJoshOvki: as far as i can see is avahi responsible for network connections?20:31
suiok, done20:31
nevilleVLC should work fine with it20:32
JoshOvkirestart and see what happens20:32
nevilleDue to it probably installing the needed libraries while it itself is installing20:32
achillesok thanks :) i was alittle worried20:32
achillessince im using dail up XD20:33
nevilleme too ^_^20:33
nevilleI just came out of 200Mb of updates for stuff, so ;/20:33
achilleswow lol20:34
niallis there a version of OOo which is better integrated with KDE?20:34
suiJoshOvki: * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                                     ifdown: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"20:34
sui[fail]20:34
achillesmaybe try koffice?20:34
niallyeah20:35
suiJoshOvki: i did it with "/etc/init.d/networking restart20:35
achilleskoffice is good too20:35
niallstill a bit of a cop out though20:35
geniisui: Use sudo then you will have read rights to /etc/network/interfaces20:35
jpatrickniall: koffice2 will be great :D20:36
suigenii: id did sudo su -20:36
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nialljpatrick: ya, I'm looking forward to that :}20:36
achilles:)20:36
JoshOvkii think a restart might be better for it, because  knetwork doesnt use the infaces file, thats why it needs to be empty stop it conflicting20:36
nialljpatrick: April will be great, with Kubuntu 8.04, KOffice 2, KDE4 :}20:36
geniisui: what says result of:  ls -l /etc/network/interfaces                             then?20:36
achillesomg awesome20:37
jpatrickniall: rock on!20:37
achillesill have to download it:)20:37
VermuxI restarted my computer, but now my screen is screwed. I cant see nothing20:37
Vermuxhow do I change the resolution in text mode?20:37
VermuxI changed it to 800X600 and then rebooted20:37
jpatrickVermux: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?20:38
achilles<niall> can you serf with web with konqueror using dail up?? cause i can not20:38
niallno idea, I'm not on dial up20:38
suigenii, JoshOvki: that was my fault, now i was able to restart20:38
achillesoh sorry i did you were using dial up lol20:38
niallI like Konquerer, the only problem I have with it is it gmail doesn't seem to work :(20:38
Szalnhi vermux, have a look at xorg.conf20:39
achillesoh;( yeah and for some reason i cant serf with it using dial up20:39
emilsedghniall: KMail Rocks20:39
suiwth? with this empty interface-file knetworkmanager shows my wireless networks again20:39
Vermuxjpatrick: it says it cannot recognize the driver20:40
jpatrickVermux: never heard that one before... :(20:40
suigenii, JoshOvki: can anyone of you explain why this can happen?20:40
Vermuxjpatrick: I have manually to choose the x server driver from a list now20:40
niallemilsedgh: while that maybe true, not being able to show your gmail in the browser is a bit weak20:40
JoshOvkiyeh,  the interfaces file confilcts with  knetwork   for some reason20:40
VermuxSzwhat should I do?20:40
Szalnif there is any problem, choose VESA20:41
JoshOvkiif its got stuff in there knetwork ignores that device all together it appears20:41
emilsedghniall: use Plain HTML view, it works with Kubuntu right...20:41
niallwhen I log into gmail in konquerer it gets as far as the 'Loading...' screen then never passes it20:41
Szalnwhat driver did you use before the crash?20:41
val0does any1 have an idea why i get a 403 forbidden error while trying apt-get upgrade???20:42
JoshOvkiniall use ff, konquerer has problems with the javascript20:42
achillesthats why firefox is the best:P20:42
VermuxSzaln: I have no idea20:43
achillesyeah ff ftw20:43
Vermuxnow it asks me "use kernel framebuffer device interface?"20:43
suiJoshOvki: but i still don"t get a lease by dhcp20:43
niallbut firefox looks rubbish :(20:43
LamerManwhen i try to upload something to USB MASS STORAGE, kubuntu uploads it much faster than the storage can work (that is like USB2.0 when the storage supports only 1.1), all the data that has been writen is corrupted. What could it be?20:43
VermuxSzaln: what happaned? I just restarted20:43
achilleslol20:43
VermuxSzaln: yes or no?20:44
achilles<niall> have you used kde4?20:44
niallno20:44
Szalnbufffff this escapes from my hands20:44
JoshOvkisui: so you can see it but not get dhcp20:44
JoshOvkihmmm20:44
suiJoshOvki: avahi-autopid(eth1): Starting with address 169...20:44
JoshOvkival0:  remove it20:44
Szalndid you made any change to the driver?20:44
JoshOvkioops20:44
JoshOvkival0:  !xbug20:44
VermuxSzaln: ok, I dont know what to do now. need help20:45
JoshOvki!xbug20:45
ubotuThe latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, which is why you currently get a "403 Forbidden" error.20:45
JoshOvkiok, i cant run it20:45
VermuxSzaln: what happaned?20:45
Szalni had problems with restricted manager in the past20:45
JoshOvkihmmmm20:46
val0JoshOvki so i shouldn't update it is what you are saying right?20:46
Szalnif you only changed the resolution......... maybe the card or display doesn't perform well in that resolution20:46
achillesi hope they include compiz fusion in kubuntus next release20:47
Vermuxwho can help me, I cant see anything on the screen. I did udo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg20:47
Vermuxand now it asks me if to use kernel framebuffer device interface20:47
JoshOvkiyou can update all the other files, but the xorg one just wont update20:47
niallachilles: they won't20:47
VermuxSzaln: the question is what to do now?20:47
val0JoshOvki perfect that's exectly what happend thanks so much!20:47
achillesdamn:(20:48
JoshOvkisui: any luck yet?20:48
niallkwin has it's own new compositing features in KDE420:48
niallsince it's already full integrated into KDE20:48
achillesrotating cube too?20:48
niallrather than tack compiz-fusion20:48
niallwhich is still pretty buggy20:48
niallI don't think it has the cube20:49
Szalnvermux, are you now in X or just shell?20:49
suiJoshOvki: no, i found in syslog: eth1: link is not ready20:49
niallbut it does have some actually useful things ;p20:49
achilles:P20:49
achillesbut atleast we get some effects20:49
VermuxSzaln: in package configuration - blue screen20:49
JoshOvkiwhat does   iwconfig    report now?20:49
nialllike things that actually increase productivity20:49
VermuxSzaln: configuring xserver -xorg20:49
achilles:P20:49
Szalnlet me have a look at mine20:49
achilleswill it have the expose thing effect?20:50
firecrotchniall:  I'd say that compiz-fusion is pretty stable, I've been using it for a long time with not a single problem.  Though that could be becuase I'm using an Intel graphics card20:50
achillesyeah nvidia users get alot of bugs20:50
suiJoshOvki: when i set a static ip, knetworkmanager writes a new interfaces-file, and after that its not possible to see wireless connections.20:50
JoshOvkihmmm20:50
JoshOvkiwhat security is on ur router?20:51
firecrotchWell, maybe if nvidia provided better drivers....20:51
achillesyeah20:51
suiJoshOvki: i removed all lines from interfaces and now knetworkmanager shows my network again.... thats weird...20:52
niallI'm hoping that ATi/AMD is going to be the way to go for Linux20:52
JoshOvkiyeh20:52
niallwith all their drivers being open source and everything20:52
val0JoshOvki I just tried it again and everything worked fine. Does it mean that the error was fixed?20:52
nialland they keep pumping out documentation and that20:52
achillesyeah that will be awesome20:52
JoshOvkival0: they must have fixed it20:53
Vermuxwhat resolutions should I choose the x server to use?20:53
niallYou'd think that you wouldn't need the restricted driver manager for ATi next Ubuntu release, it should just install with the proper ones straight off, since they're open source now.20:53
JoshOvkisui: Do you have   mac filtering   WEP/WAP on your router?20:53
VermuxSzaln: what resolutions should I choose the x server to use?20:53
achillesso is ati the way to go for linux users? right now20:54
niallI should think so20:54
suiJoshOvki: no, and its unbelievable. in knetworkmanager I chose "try to connect to another network" et voila... I'm online20:54
suiwith my wireless connection20:54
JoshOvkiso its working now?20:54
JoshOvkior not still20:54
suiJoshOvki: yes it works20:55
achillesthan ill think about ati when i get to upgreading my 32mb nivida card lol20:55
JoshOvkiwoot :)20:55
JoshOvkione of the best feelings for me, when i get my wifi working with linux :P20:55
Szalnvermux, 1024x768 or 800x 600 will be safe20:55
suiJoshOvki: it was this stupid interfaces-file20:55
VermuxSzaln: where is the location of xorg.conf20:55
Vermux?20:55
achillesso true lol20:55
Szalnetc/X1120:55
JoshOvkisui: stupid file ay20:56
U238Willyheh20:56
U238Willylol20:56
suiJoshOvki: I needed 5 days to solve this problem.... awesome20:56
U238Willy[15:56:01] [RAW]: etc /X1120:56
JoshOvkilol20:56
achillesi really want to see revolution os:P20:56
U238Willytried to answer20:56
tdnHow do I get the Helvetica font in Ubuntu?20:56
JoshOvkisui: glad to help.20:56
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suiJoshOvki: 2 laptops here, one with a manual configuration with gentoo is working. kubuntu for my girl friend hangs for a simple textfile20:57
suiJoshOvki: thanks for your help :)20:57
VermuxSzaln: is it a directory? , I cant get into it20:57
nialltdn: there's a package of 'free' windows fonts you can download20:57
niallif it is one :x20:57
JoshOvkisui: your welcome :) im not doing bad for my first time here really20:57
Szalnyes20:57
Szalngo /etc/X11/xorg.conf20:57
firecrotchtdn: the msttcorefonts package has it, I think20:58
achillesi wish they include gimp by default in kubuntu:P20:59
niallit's gtk ;p20:59
niallalthough I have to say, I wish they include some graphics apps by default ¬_¬20:59
achilles:P20:59
niallthere was nothing when i put it on20:59
VermuxSzaln: ok, now Im in text mode in the other computer after configuring the x server20:59
tdnniall, firecrotch: I have installed msttcorefonts, but I still cannot fint Helvetica in Inkscape.20:59
VermuxSzaln: I cant go to that directory20:59
niallnot even a basic editor like paint21:00
achillesyeah21:00
niallyou'd think they'd put krita and karbon14 on21:00
achillestrue lol21:00
niall:<21:00
achillestux paint:P21:00
niall;D21:00
achillesubuntu has all that :P but i dont like gnome XD21:00
achillesgimp i mean21:00
JoshOvkianyway i better restart, see how this xorg update has destroyed my machine ;) cya all in a moment i hope21:00
U238Willyvermux, you should be able to enter the directory.. however you will need root priv. if you're going to edit the xorg.conf file.21:00
VermuxSzaln: the x11 directory is blue21:01
U238WillyX1121:01
U238Willythere is a difference21:01
achilleswoot vlc just finshed downloading  now im going to try to play my lord of the rings dvd21:01
chithetank_could someone help me with a little ubuntu problem?21:01
firecrotchtdn:  Sorry, it's actually *not* in msttcorefonts21:02
tdnfirecrotch, so, how do I get it?21:02
niallachilles: you tried krita?21:02
VermuxU238Willy: thanks21:02
VermuxSzaln: ok, what do I do now? how do I start x server?21:02
achillesnow yet :P21:03
achillesnot*21:03
achillesyou?21:03
U238Willycommand line? type 'startx'21:03
firecrotchtdn:  Helvetica is a comercial font, so there's no way to get it for free, actually.21:04
achillesdamn vlc will not play my lord of the rings dvd :(21:04
achillesi dont know what to do now;(21:04
niallyou need some DVD playing lib I think21:05
achillesyeah but i dont know which one :(21:05
achillesi downoaded some but it still wont play21:05
U238Willywell with the right codecs installed kaffeine will play dvds, however others prefer mplayer or kmplayer.21:05
U238Willy!codecs21:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:05
achillesin kaffeine it keeps telling me it can not play21:05
firecrotchtdn:  That said, you could probably copy the font from a windows installation to your Kubuntu installation21:06
achillesthanks will try later:)21:06
VermuxSzaln:  I got this error: x:warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0. fatal server error: server is already active for display 0. if this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/ .x0-lock and start again21:06
U238Willyoof.. that's beyond my ken21:06
achillesubotu can you please tell me what codecs to install? since i can not serf for some reason using dail up i can only download packages21:07
niall!dvd21:07
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs21:07
U238Willyubotu is a bot with info21:07
U238Willyyep yep..21:08
achillesXD21:08
miladenHey, can you guys recommend any mediaplayers like amarok?21:08
achillesbanshee21:08
U238Willyjuk21:08
U238Willydepends on what you're going for21:08
niallamarok is the best out of the ones I've tried21:09
miladenjust a player for mp3 and usual soundfiles21:09
firecrotchIf you're looking for something like amarok, why not use amarok ? :)21:09
miladeni have my reasons21:09
U238Willyand achilles... like they'll tell you.. you need to open up your 'allowed' repositories so you can then find the restricted/etc codecs21:10
miladenany1 with any recommends?21:10
achillesyeah i have all of them open21:10
U238Willywell amarok is fully loaded21:10
U238Willyand therefore a bit bloat-ish21:10
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achillesin pclinuxos i just downloaded their libdvdcss2 rpm and i could watch any dvd but i dont know how to do  it in kubuntu21:11
U238Willyjuk and even the old xmms will play sound files and are a bit smaller.21:11
miladenAre you guys serious? there is NO media player that can match amarok?21:11
U238Willyin functionality?21:11
miladenyea21:11
U238Willynot really21:11
miladeni guess this is why windows is bigger21:11
miladenno variation21:11
U238Willyit's the only one that I know of that can support mp3 players21:11
U238Willylike ipods and the like21:12
josh__achilles you need to add the restricted repositorys21:12
=== josh__ is now known as JoshOvki
Darkrift411ok, i need some serious help. a few months ago, i spent days getting my wifi working and today my wife did something, and now my wifi isnt found21:12
miladenthats ridicoulus21:12
Darkrift411i cant even remember how i got it working21:12
achillesyeah i did that21:12
coreymon77Darkrift411: sure, ill try21:12
Darkrift411i know i tried using ndiswrapper, but if i remember correctly, that failed21:12
achillesevery repostory is open21:12
Darkrift411so i did something else21:12
Darkrift411thx21:13
coreymon77Darkrift411: do you know what card you have?21:13
firecrotchDarkrift411: Ask your wife what she did so you can reverse it?21:13
Darkrift411i dont remember21:13
JoshOvkiDarkrift411: are you using knetwork?21:13
Darkrift411the only mgr i had running was kwifimanager21:13
achillessniff sniff i just wanna watch my lord of the rings dvd sniff sniff21:13
Darkrift411she had opened knetwork and i think tahts what messed it up21:13
suiJoshOvki: :)21:13
JoshOvkiarchillies: what does      sudo apt-get install libdvdcss221:13
JoshOvkiget?21:14
JoshOvkisui: hey again :)21:14
coreymon77Darkrift411: okay, try this, type lspci and into konsole and put the output on pastebin21:14
achillesi tried downloading that but it says it conflicts with two  other files21:14
Darkrift411!pastebin21:14
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:14
suiDarkrift411: can you find an accesspoint by tyoing iwlist $wirelessdevice scan?21:15
coreymon77sui: lets first find out what card we are working with here21:15
U238Willyachilles21:15
JoshOvkiachillies:   sudo apt-get install libdvdread321:15
Darkrift411http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52476/\21:15
JoshOvkii think thats better21:15
suicoreymon77: ok.21:15
achillesi already have that installed;(21:16
JoshOvkiand u still cant play DVDs?21:16
Darkrift411when i try that both devices say "device doesnt support scanning" (lo and eth0) but i think my wifi was eth121:16
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achillesnot my lord of the rings dvd:(21:16
U238Willyi was going to ask achilles to look at or post his /etc/apt/sources.list21:17
JoshOvkiin what media player?21:17
coreymon77Darkrift411: are you sure thats all the output21:17
U238Willypost in a pastebin of course21:17
Darkrift411yes21:17
achilleskaffeine21:17
jatz_hey, I have a question again21:17
suicoreymon77: just a few minutes ago I got help to fix a wifi problem on my laptop here... and it has something to do with knetwork and a manual configuration21:17
achillesand vlc player21:17
coreymon77Darkrift411: because according to this, as far as kubuntu is concerned, you dont have a wireless card in your computer21:17
myotheraltcan someone help me with aome issues i am having with kde4?21:17
Darkrift411i know21:17
Darkrift411i couldnt find it in there21:17
firecrotchDarkrift411: Just to make sure... have you tried sudo ifup eth1 (or whatever the device is)?21:17
jatz_there was a crash, my hd was unsafely removed21:17
jatz_now it isn't mounting.21:17
SSJ_GZmyotheralt: → #kubuntu-kde421:17
myotheraltty21:18
muesli_friday 9pm. fecking best time of the week21:18
coreymon77sui: thats i dont use knetworkmanager, i just do it the good ol fashioned cmdline way21:18
jatz_tune2fs -e says "bad error behaviour.' which sounds bad.21:18
Darkrift411no such device :S21:18
Darkrift411lemme look up my laptop and find out what wifi it is21:18
JoshOvkijatz: wb, sounds like its all gone wrong now21:18
jatz_well, it was working fine21:18
coreymon77firecrotch: this is wifi, not ethernet, wouldnt he typically want wlan0 or ra0 or ath0 (depending on the card)21:19
jatz_but then the machine it was mounted to was shut off improperly21:19
achillesi know my dvd is playable cause ive played it in pclinuxos21:19
niallI just played a DVD ;}21:19
jatz_just chiming in on that, coreymon77, my wifi card appears as eth021:19
U238Willyyeah i'd think wlan0 is more appropo21:19
firecrotchcoreymon77:  I've had wireless cards that were eth1 before21:19
Darkrift411i know my laptop has the one card that supposedly everyone has problems with21:19
coreymon77okay21:19
Darkrift411some broadcom card21:19
coreymon77Darkrift411: more specific21:19
achillesdo you think i need a restart?21:19
jatz_JoshOvki: thoughts on my breakage21:19
achillesto make it play21:19
jatz_?21:19
firecrotchEw broadcom cards are a pain21:19
niallI didn't need to restart21:19
suicoreymon77: normally me too, but in that case i wasnt able to configure wifi manually because iwpriv doesn't know the option 'set' and wpa_supplicant had solle ioctl errors21:19
niallI just played one now :X21:19
coreymon77firecrotch: i know, atheros all the way21:20
achillessniff no frodo today i guess21:20
coreymon77Darkrift411: anyways, broadcom is a big company, can you be more specific about the card?21:20
U238Willyi got my broadcom to work in suse.. but only after using ndiswrapper21:20
Darkrift411im looking21:20
niallachilles: sudo apt-get install libdvdread321:20
jatz_mnt21:20
niallyou done that?21:20
achillesyeah21:20
nialldid you run the install script?21:21
achillesi still wont play21:21
achillesno21:21
achilleshow?21:21
niall.21:21
coreymon77U238Willy: ndiswrapper *pukes*21:21
niall;D21:21
U238Willythose were the times though21:21
U238Willyyou did that or else21:21
coreymon77i know21:21
niallachilles: sudo apt-get install debhelper21:21
niallachilles: sudo apt-get install fakeroot21:21
niallachilles: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh21:21
coreymon77there was a time when it took me 3 whole days to get any sort of internet to work21:21
JoshOvkijatz: take a look at this   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9131221:21
U238Willyi became quite familiar with ifconfig and iwconfig and sheesh..21:22
jatz_JoshOvki: thanks21:22
achillesthanks niall im doing the first step21:22
coreymon77U238Willy: me too, linux is also the reason ive memorized my encyption key21:22
U238Willyoi.. wep/wpa too?21:23
tushydi currently am running Ubuntu (gutsy), how do I install KDE4 on it?21:23
JoshOvkihow do you register a username here?21:23
Darkrift411its broadcomm 34xx (not sure the exact model)21:23
coreymon77U238Willy: why oi? once the card works, everything else is one simple command21:23
Darkrift411im slowly narrowing it down21:23
coreymon77Darkrift411: that shouldnt be too hard21:23
U238Willycoreymon77, true..21:23
Darkrift411i found chat logs of this chan from months ago in here where i was getting help21:24
coreymon77Darkrift411: do you have any internet on your kubuntu box at all?21:24
Darkrift411im on it21:24
coreymon77okay21:24
Darkrift411im sittting in daughters room behind a dresser to hook directly into the router21:24
coreymon77then we should be fine21:24
Darkrift411k21:24
U238Willyfor KDE421:25
U238WillyI'd start my search here.21:25
U238Willyhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php21:25
coreymon77Darkrift411: although, continue finding out the exact card, since things are different for some of them21:25
niallif you search adept for kde4, there's a boat load of packages, i'd install kde4-base and kde4-data then pick out any others you want21:25
jussi01!kde4 > tushyd21:26
JoshOvkito be honist KDE4 isnt that good yet21:26
U238Willythe link i have above does go through some of the steps21:26
U238Willyor most21:26
jussi01niall: thats incorrect. please see the !kde4 factoid ;)21:26
niall;]21:26
niallok21:26
PowerJC!kde421:27
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde421:27
U238Willyheh.. same link21:27
tushydthanks jussi0121:28
jussi01tushyd: :)21:29
coreymon77Darkrift411: any more progress?21:29
Darkrift411Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card is what i keep finding on google with my laptop model21:30
Darkrift411that sounds familliar, but not sure where i got the 34xx21:30
U238Willydoesn't lspci work from the command line?21:30
coreymon77oh, darn, the 34xx would be much easier to work with21:30
coreymon77U238Willy: nope21:30
jussi01!bcm43xx | Darkrift41121:30
ubotuDarkrift411: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx21:30
WhatAreYouhello ive created an iso file of a dvd movie.  mounted it with sudo mount -o loop /home..../...iso /media/iso now it created a folder iso where insiede theres video_ts and adio_Ts. the question is how can i reproduce that video?21:31
U238Willy?21:31
firecrotchDarkrift411:  I assume there's a switch on your laptop to turn the wireless card on/off?21:31
Darkrift411yes21:31
U238Willyit does on mine21:31
Darkrift411and its on21:31
firecrotchDarkrift411: Turn it off and then back on, then see what "dmesg" says, maybe it'll give the model #21:32
coreymon77jussi01: its not a 34xx aparently21:32
niallachilles: got it working yet?21:32
jussi01coreymon77: correct, its a 43xx ;)21:32
U238Willythey're common21:32
coreymon77jussi01: no it isnt21:32
Darkrift411no changes at all21:32
achillesoh omg naill it freaking plays now:)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!21:32
niall;D21:32
achillesthanks you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!21:32
StrangeletDoes Kubuntu have a "compiz-fusion" or a program that can create amazing effects?21:33
niallyou're welcome21:33
Darkrift411last message is about me plugging in my ethernet cable21:33
coreymon77Darkrift411: lspci and dmesg still give you nothing?21:33
firecrotchStrangelet:  Yes.... it's compiz-fusion21:33
Darkrift411yes21:33
NickPresta!compiz | Strangelet21:33
ubotuStrangelet: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion21:33
Strangeletfirecrotch: oh.21:33
Strangelet:D21:33
Strangeletwhoops! :P21:33
achillesthanks thanks thanks now off i go cause my phone bill will be huge if i don't disconnect lol21:33
coreymon77Darkrift411: what computer do you have?21:33
Darkrift411compaq v6210us21:34
achillesnaill you rock see ya21:34
niallbye21:34
jussi01coreymon77: that card has a 43xx chipset!21:34
coreymon77jussi01: well then why is there a seperate page for it on the wifi docs!21:34
U238Willyi'd be more surprised that it's not showing up under lspci or dmesg.21:35
Darkrift411i know it used to21:35
coreymon77jussi01: and why do the instructions say that you should get rid of the 43xx drivers!21:35
firecrotchDarkrift411: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092  should help21:35
firecrotchIt's for the specific wireless card that your laptop has21:36
jussi01coreymon77: the instructions tell you to get rid of one set of 43xx drivers and use ndiswrapper.21:36
coreymon77w/e21:37
coreymon77Darkrift411: try the instructions on that forum page21:37
jason__!kernel21:37
ubotuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages21:37
jussi01coreymon77: to be exactly precise it has a bcm431121:37
Admiral_Chicagoeh?21:38
Admiral_Chicagowhats that?21:38
Admiral_Chicagocrap...21:39
* firecrotch smacks Admiral_Chicago around a bit with a large trout21:39
JoshOvkiadmiral having problems?21:39
firecrotchEverything alright there?21:39
U238Willybroadcom 43xx NICs were very common.. that's what I had in my emachine.. and I too got it working with ndiswrapper..21:39
U238Willy(laptop)21:39
Admiral_Chicago@JoshOvki...apparently....21:39
JoshOvkiapparently the world is round, but im not too sure ;)21:40
Admiral_Chicagowell I came in here to find out if anyone has had success with Kopete + AIM + XMPP.21:40
U238Willyxmpp?21:41
Admiral_ChicagoI'm trying to connect to the aol authentication server via xmpp but its not working21:41
U238Willyoh.. i've used aim..21:41
Admiral_ChicagoU238Willy thats the Jabber protocol21:41
U238Willythrough kopete21:41
U238Willyand even set up googletalk through jabber21:41
Admiral_Chicagothey all use XMPP as a backend21:41
Admiral_Chicagomaybe I'll just try Psi to see if ti will work in there....21:44
U238Willywell.. i set up a 'jabber' client..21:44
Admiral_Chicagoright21:44
U238Willyin kopete to get to my googletalk.. but thankfully google had some wiki type stuff to make it easier to set up..21:44
Admiral_ChicagoI have that link too...21:45
U238Willyworked like a charm21:45
niallI've got an aim account running on kopete21:45
U238Willybut each one is slightly different.. on what the accepted username is .. whether they want SSL.. and what ports..21:46
Admiral_Chicagoniall using the Xmpp backend?21:46
niallno idae21:46
Admiral_ChicagoI'm sure my error is either the JID or the port21:47
Admiral_Chicagoniall did you ever mess with the login server21:47
niallno21:47
niallI just created a new aim account, added my username and pass then click next21:47
nialland it connected21:47
niallI didn't change anything21:47
Odd-rationaleI used to have a feature that when I highlight a URL, KDE will pop up a menu asking me whether I want to poen it with konqueror. That was pretty kool. How do I get that back?21:48
Admiral_Chicagoits using the default (oscar) protocol which is propreitary.  its in my best interest to run it under the xmpp protocol which is open source21:48
hyper_chgot a boot problem with the network manager:  http://www.pastebin.org/16004   --> I need to press ctrl-alt-delete in order to continue the boot process21:49
jimmy51hello, i'm trying my best to run kubuntu on my home machine instead of xp.  i'm doing pretty well, but need to be able to quickly VPN into my office network and RDP into my XP workstation.... what VPN client should i use?21:49
BluesKaj!remote21:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:50
Flare183!vpn21:50
ubotuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD21:50
hyper_chjimmy51: I'd install cygwin and use sshfs21:50
BluesKaj!remote desktop21:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remote desktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:50
BluesKajhmm , VPN is it21:51
BluesKaj!info remote-desktop21:51
ubotuPackage remote-desktop does not exist in gutsy21:51
jimmy51I see a RDP client (krdc)21:52
jimmy51but need the VPN step first21:52
BluesKaj!krdc | jimmy5121:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about krdc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:53
jimmy51oops, Krdc21:53
jimmy51!Krdc21:53
Darkrift411gonna try a reboot, but that guild says my wifi light should be on now, and it isnt :(21:54
Darkrift411brb in 321:54
jimmy51hyper_ch:  install cgywin on my linux box?21:54
hyper_chjimmy51: no, on your windows box21:55
BluesKajjimmy51 , krdc is in the kmenu/internet list21:55
hyper_chjimmy51: so that you get a ssh server on your windows box through which you then can connect and mount the remote folder through ssh in your linux box21:55
jimmy51BluesKaj:  yeah, i see the client... i just don't know how to VPN into work like I did in XP21:55
BluesKajok21:55
BluesKajip addy then user&pw ?21:56
jimmy51yeah, i've got all that21:56
jimmy51BluesKaj:  In XP I opened Network Connections, clicked "new connection" or something, and chose VPN, entered my stuff, and boom, i'm connected21:57
jimmy51BluesKaj:  from there on out, I could just right click on the connection and click "connect"... then I run my RDP client and take over my workstation and code away21:57
Darkrift411no luck :(21:57
Darkrift411still no wifi listed in lspci21:58
Darkrift411i might have to go to walmart and buy a pci wifi card to use21:58
Darkrift411linksys or belkin should be safe brands to buy right?21:58
BluesKajjimmy51, still got XP ?  :-)21:59
JoshOvkijimmy what VPN client are you using?21:59
U238Willythis wifi card is hardwired right? not a usb or otherwise connected right, Darkrift411?21:59
Darkrift411yes21:59
Darkrift411its built in21:59
U238Willyok21:59
jimmy51BluesKaj:  yeah, I'm dual boot but I'm trying to be a good boy and ditch XP for kubuntu21:59
jimmy51JoshOvki:  in XP, i just use the built in windows VPN client21:59
Darkrift411if linux cant even see it, there something more then drivers wrong with it im guessing21:59
JoshOvkiwhat about kubuntu?22:00
JoshOvkitry   kvpnc22:00
jimmy51JoshOvki:  that's the question.  I'm trying to find a vpn client22:00
demetriohello someone can help me to install webcam22:00
jimmy51JoshOvki:  i'll check the repository for that22:00
U238Willywhen you got it to work before ... did you use ndiswrapper? or some other program?22:00
Darkrift411i think ndiswrapper failed22:00
Darkrift411but i dont remember what worked22:00
Darkrift411but i do remember that lspci showed it22:01
Darkrift411thats how we found out which card i had22:01
demetrioi try many times but doesen't work please22:01
U238Willyhmm..22:02
JoshOvkidemetrio do you know if there is a driver available for it?22:02
JoshOvkior could you tell me the make and model of it?22:03
Viking667Got a question. How do I enter "weird" symbols from within thunderbird? (i.e. like the degree symbol)22:03
demetrioJoshOvki: Bus 001 Device 008: ID 093a:2468 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Easy Snap Snake Eye WebCam22:03
Darkrift411ok, thx guys, but i dont feeel like dealing with this crap again, imma go buy a new card22:03
Viking667and no, this isn't specific to thunderbird.22:03
Darkrift411and tell the wife to stay the hell off my damned computer22:03
Viking667I just can't find the equivalent program to gcharmap22:03
U238Willydark22:03
Darkrift411she killed windows every time she touched it, so i figured linux would be more secure, but nothing can resist her technodeath touch22:04
U238WillyDarkrift411, sorry.. could you go to the command line and type 'ndiswrapper -l' and see what, if anything comes up?22:04
Darkrift411k22:04
jimmy51darkrift:  hahahaha.  that's why we have multiple computers man22:04
demetrioJoshOvki: linux see my webcam but when itry to run camorama i have this error: culd connect to /dev/vidoe022:04
JoshOvkiok, what happens when you run    ls -l /dev/video0      ?22:05
draikHello everyone22:06
Darkrift411says driver installed22:06
U238Willyhaha22:06
U238Willywhich means two things22:06
kletuscomo hago para irme  a kubuntu en español22:06
U238Willy1) you are using ndiswrapper22:06
Darkrift411yes, i just installed ndiswrapper22:06
Darkrift4115 mins ago22:06
U238Willyoi22:06
Viking667kletus: hablo Inglese?22:06
Darkrift411a page i was pointed to walked me thru it22:06
kletusno22:07
draikI'm using Kaffeine. When I try to watch Discovery's 2057, it plays without a problem. When I put in Transformers, it says "The source cannot be read. Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading from DVD.)"22:07
U238Willy!es | kletus22:07
ubotukletus: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.22:07
draikBoth DVDs are legit22:07
JoshOvkidemitrio: what happens when you run    ls -l /dev/video0      ?22:07
Viking667ah.22:08
bellohi all! :-)22:08
U238WillyDarkrift411, wifi is strange in that whatever option you choose you want to stick with it.. because.. when I've had different programs competing.. the end result is a loss..22:09
U238Willyso i'd have to uninstall all of them.. and then start over22:09
Darkrift411exactly what caused this22:09
Darkrift411like i said22:09
Darkrift411easier to just buy a different card22:09
Darkrift411and stay away from broadcomm22:10
Darkrift411ill go with linksys or belkin22:10
U238Willywell..22:10
Odd-rationaleDoes anyone know how to enable that feature when you highlight something like a URL, a pop up menu appears that allows you to quickly open it with konquoror? Sorry I acn't give a better discription.22:10
ktulu77hi there :)22:10
draikDarkrift411: What about an old laptop. I am currently having the video issues with playing DVDs. It's a Dell SmartStep 200N. What do you recommend for a miniPCI wifi card?22:11
Odd-rationaleIt is rather hard to find something that you don;t know what it is called.22:11
bellosomeone of you upgraded gutsu to hoary?22:11
Flare183!hardy | bello22:11
ubotubello: hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu22:11
Darkrift411i have no idea draik22:11
belloyep! Lapsus!22:11
pix_ciao a tutti22:11
U238WillyDarkrift411, what I worry about is.. whether putting another wifi card will compound the issue not correct it.22:11
draikDarkrift411: Ok Thanks.22:11
pix_ho un problema22:11
bellosorry!! ;-)22:11
Darkrift411im just talking about  what walmart sells in pcmci cards22:12
Darkrift411i hope not U238Willy22:12
pix_chi mi puo dare una mano?22:12
Darkrift411i think its just the model that i have22:12
belloit's enough modify source.list than apt-get upgrade && update?22:12
bellose so la risposta,volentieri | pix22:12
Darkrift411every time i paste in my model, everyone does this "oh crap, hes screwed" scene22:12
Darkrift411so i know its a crap card22:12
pix_ciao bello22:13
Darkrift411im hoping anything else will give better results22:13
pix_ascolta in pratica non mi funziona piu la wireless22:13
bellostanno parlando propri di questo...22:13
bellose leggi.22:13
NickPresta!it | bello22:13
ubotubello: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!22:13
Darkrift411thx for the help, and ill prob be back in soon, after my trip to walmart22:13
NickPrestabello, tipo: /join #kubuntu-it22:13
pix_e ma sono appena entrato i vecchi mex non li leggo22:13
pix_in pratica un mio amico ha toccato il pc e non so che cosa ha fatto22:14
hyper_chand I wonder why my /dev/sdb1 is not mounted upon boot:  /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1     ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro      0       2        -->     when I do    sudo mount -a    then it will be mounted then22:14
Viking667anyhow, has anyone got an answer to how I enter in a "special" character into a document or email? (such as a degree symbol, or an e with a circumflex?)22:14
NickPrestapix_, tipo: /join #kubuntu-it22:14
pix_da li mi tocca collegare il pc al modem22:14
Viking667I'm not new to Linux, just totally new to kubuntu.22:14
hyper_chViking667: â ?22:14
Viking667hyper_ch: that looked like a A with ~ above, followed by a cent symbol22:14
draikWhere should I look to resolve my DVD issue? 2057 plays, but not Transformers22:15
hyper_chViking667: wrong charset I suppose then22:15
LeAstraleHi everybody22:15
NickPrestahi, LeAstrale22:15
Viking667hyper_ch: yeah, I know. This "twin" thing doesn't do UTF-8 properly... but the question remains.22:15
LeAstraleanyone in here know what the reason could be that my Kubuntu 7.10 install has switched to a much smaller font since last boot ?22:15
Viking667heh. I have had that happen on occasions with Ubuntu, I've no idea either.22:16
U238Willy!dvd | draik22:16
ubotudraik: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs22:16
ktulu77does someone no how the bugs in launchpad are considered ?22:17
ktulu77because I have reported a bug but I don't know when it will be cheked22:17
Viking667's all right. I found the program:  kcharselect22:17
Viking667someone else told me about it.22:17
* Viking667 waves goodbye22:17
draikThank you U238Willy22:18
LeAstraleViking667: is it able to solve my problem?22:18
LeAstraledamn he left22:18
U238WillyLeAstrale, sounds to me your video settings changed..22:19
U238Willyunless you installed a new theme or changed the fonts in your theme22:20
LeAstraleU238Willy: haven't done any of the things you mention22:20
U238Willywell if your resolution looks tighter.. and you want to keep it..22:23
voicuwhat's the syntax for the DISPLAY variable?22:23
LeAstralemy resolution is still 1280x1024 but all fonts are smaller :/22:23
U238Willythen i'd head over to systemsettings/appearance/font and change the size22:23
nosrednaekimDISPLAY:1 ?22:24
nosrednaekimLeAstrale: adjust your dpi22:24
voiculeastrale: you can set your monitor size in /etc/X11/xorg.conf: that way fonts will have the same (real) size no matter the resolution22:24
voicuthat's what dpi is for in the first place22:25
voicunosrednaekim: no, i need to set it for a remote X server22:25
deqcseig heil22:25
LeAstralevoicu: how to set the monitor size? i have choosen the exact screen i have in display settings :)22:25
nosrednaekimvoicu: ah., then I don't know22:25
U238Willyright.. and if you want LeAstrale.. you can always run through your xorg setup by 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'22:25
U238Willyto see if any of the settings have changed.22:26
LeAstraleU238Willy: wouldn't be smart when Nvidia has taken caare of it?22:26
U238Willyi had my resolution one day pop out for no apparent reason..22:26
voiculeastrale: from my experience that just sets the frequencies. open /etc/X11/xorg.conf with root and in the monitor section add an option like this DisplaySize WIDTH HEIGHT22:27
voicuWIDTH HEIGHT are in milimeters22:27
U238Willythat's what I did.. and then checked xorg.conf to make sure that it was using the nvidia-glx drivers..22:27
LeAstralemine only needs to use the nvidia drivers that i have installed myself22:28
slow-motionn822:31
Flare183How can i record my desktop?22:31
sigma_1234anyone here knw anyting bout kde kiosk?22:31
NickPresta!info gtk-recordmydesktop | Flare18322:32
sigma_1234Flare183: kde4 has that functionality22:32
ubotuflare183: gtk-recordmydesktop: Graphical frontend for recordmydesktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.4-1 (gutsy), package size 59 kB, installed size 448 kB22:32
Flare183sigma_1234: kde4 right now is whack because plasma is not finished22:32
jozehello there22:32
jozeI have a huge problem..22:32
jozeI disabled fglrx in restricted drivers22:33
jozeand now I am not able to come in X22:33
jozewhats the package name of this fglrx driver _22:33
jozethat is in administration > restricted drivers and there is fglrx22:33
jozeanyone.. its urgent22:33
Odd-rationalejoze: Try xorg-driver-fglrx22:35
Odd-rationalejoze: I don't have the said driver myself. So don't count on it.22:35
Odd-rationalejoze: Would you like me to give you the other results of a search for "fglrx"?22:36
jozeOdd-rationale: just a sec22:36
jozeOdd-rationale: Iam not used of irssi and non graphics modes.. :)22:37
Odd-rationalejoze: np22:37
jozeOdd-rationale: the name is correct I think, its installing right now..22:38
ktulu77can someone else can confirm this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-kde4/+bug/18338122:40
jozeOdd-rationale: I guess now I have to restart..22:41
Odd-rationalejoze: Alright. I'll see you in a little bit...22:41
oscarI really think Kubuntu is a strange thing=)22:41
oscarWhen I change screen settings, the OS gets unbootable. Pressing the "test"-button is enough to destroy the whole thing22:42
oscarand people thinks windows is unstable =/22:42
Dr_willisI could say the same thing about WIndows and OS-X. -- i have messed them up so much befor its scary.22:42
DreadKnightktulu77: confirmed22:42
Dr_willisWell #1 - you did install the proper video card drivers for your system?22:42
oscarI cant find any drivers22:43
Dr_willisoscar,  and whats your video card then?22:43
oscarATI radeon mobility hd2400xt22:43
Dr_willisati = Ick. :()22:43
oscaryeah i know22:43
Dr_willisThe fglrx drivers may or may not be needed.22:43
oscaramd doesnt have drivers for my card:D22:43
oscari tried fglrx...22:43
oscar= unbootable22:44
Dr_willisTheres unbootable.. then theres X wont start..22:44
Dr_willistheres a BIG differance between the 222:44
oscarmy unbootable = grub-> select OS -> black screen and NOTHING22:44
Dr_willistry alt-ctrl-f1, see if you can get to the console, or try the recovery mode.22:44
ktulu77DreadKnight: thanks !22:45
oscarI am really new to kubuntu, recovery mode works but i dont know what to do there=)22:45
Dr_willisOf course not sure what to do to fix your system other then set the driver back to using vesa.22:45
oscari dont mind using vesa. the only thing i want with my gfx is 1280x800.22:45
Dr_willisthat may not be possible without the fglrx or other drivers.22:46
draik_Dr_willis: Do you think that if I were to change my driver from ATI to vesa, I would get the splash screen?22:46
cristinahi, i have a bug inn  dpkg, i can't install anything ,this is the error : failed in buffer_read(fd): files list for package `libc6-i386': Invalid argument22:46
oscar:(22:46
n_nphows kde4 workin out?22:46
oscaris kde4 still beta?22:47
Odd-rationalen_np: still buggy. imo22:47
Odd-rationale!kde422:47
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde422:47
oscarty willy!22:47
U238Willynp22:47
U238Willyi was reading through it22:47
U238Willyseems like the later fglrx drivers may work22:48
sarsahdi dakchi saliit mano daba22:49
cristinawith this bug in dpkg the system is good for nothing , i can't install anything22:49
U238Willyfelt leery about posting a forum thread in here.. but.. they seemed to have run across the same issue you had..22:49
matttiswhere do i find the programs which start automatically ?22:49
matttis!startup22:50
ubotuTo make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot22:50
matttisubotu: there's no button "save session" !22:51
Odd-rationalematttis: It is automatic22:51
NickPrestamatttis, ubotu is a bot. type: "/msg ubotu bot" for more info.22:52
nosrednaekimmatttis: hmmm you're right... go into advanced->sessions in system settings22:52
matttisnosrednaekim: thx22:52
muesli_anyone running hardy already? i happened to notice that the libqt4-sql doesn't seem to contain the sqlite plugin anymore?22:52
matttisOdd-rationale, NickPresta: I know, thanks22:52
n_npyeah I can expect it to still be buggy- that is the nature of open source releases22:56
Vermuxis there a graphics bug in kubuntu?22:59
Vermuxsometimes the windows ont show all the way22:59
vzduchmuesli_: for Hardy-related stuff /j #ubuntu+123:00
muesli_vzduch: sweet, didn't know about that channel... thanks!23:01
miladen.join23:01
Vermuxanybody aware of a graphics bug in kubuntu?23:02
oscaryes23:02
oscari have noticed23:02
Vermuxanybody knows how to use badblocks?23:02
oscarhave reinstalled 5 times today=)23:02
Vermuxoscar: what happaned?23:02
oscartried ti change screensettings. when pressing "test", everything goes baaaad23:03
Vermuxoscar: Im trying to change the resolution and cannot do that on one computer23:03
oscarsame23:03
draik_If the spalsh screen is a black screen, what should I do to view it? It's a blank background, not pitch black (exactly) since you can see light. It's a laptop.23:03
VermuxI didnt c test23:03
Vermuxwhere is it?23:03
oscarsystem settins -> monitor & display -> hardware23:04
oscarVermux: Dont press the button!:D23:05
oscarI should go to sleep23:06
oscarcya guys23:06
ubuntuhi all23:08
Vermuxwho knows how to use badblocks?23:15
iboumy kaffeine doesn't start23:16
iboueven if i start it through k menu23:16
nosrednaekimibou: what does it do?23:16
Vermuxhow to scan the computer with badblocks?23:16
iboui just have the little icon which move before it starts and after... nothing23:16
nosrednaekim!fsck23:16
ubotufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot23:16
nosrednaekimibou: run it from a konsole23:16
ibounosrednaekim: kaffeine or fsck ?23:18
nosrednaekimibou: kaffeine:)23:18
ibounosrednaekim: i did. Nothing happen and my konsole is freezed23:18
nosrednaekimibou: hit "ctrl+C"23:18
nosrednaekimit didn';t give any errors or output?23:19
Vermuxwhy I cant reboot from x server. I can just log out and then it becomes console23:19
Vermux?23:19
ibounosrednaekim: nothing23:19
nosrednaekimibou: thats odd.23:19
ibounosrednaekim: what is odd ?23:19
biovoreVermux: reboot your computer from the login screen?23:19
nosrednaekimibou: that it didn't give you any errors23:20
Vermuxbiovore: yes, I cant do that. the option is not there23:20
biovorehmm.. kde4 installed?23:20
Vermuxbiovore: not from the login screen but within kubuntu23:20
biovoreVermux: you mean after you have logged in..23:21
biovoreVermux: reboot from the kde desktop...23:21
Vermuxbiovore: when I click on log out it gives me the option to log out or to cancell.23:21
Vermuxbiovore: that what Im trying to do23:21
biovoreVermux: hmm.. I get reboot here..23:21
Vermuxbiovore: the option is not there23:21
VermuxI got it too before23:22
Vermuxbut I have problems with screen resolution23:22
Vermuxhad to play with it23:22
biovoreVermux: yeah.. should give you reboot and shutdown options..   Maybe a group setting..23:22
Vermuxand now it is not working properly23:22
Vermuxanybody? any idea?23:23
Vermuxbiovore: right!23:23
Vermuxbiovore: but those disappeared23:23
biovoreVermux: check in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file..23:24
biovoreI think it has something to do with kdm23:24
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sven_oostenbrinkHi there, I am using beagle as the desktop search tool, but the beagle deamon is not starting automatically.. How can I have it start automaticall?23:25
Vermuxbiovore: I have no idea what to check there23:25
sven_oostenbrinkThere is a "start automatically at login" option somewhere there, but when I select it, nothing happens.. Also the "start deamon now" does not do anything at all23:25
justin_how do i get the files for KDE423:26
biovoreVermux: /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc  look for allowshutdown line.. I think thats what your looking for..23:26
nosrednaekim!kde423:26
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde423:26
justin_does kubuntu come with the propiety nvidia drivers23:27
biovore!nvidia23:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto23:27
sven_oostenbrinkYou guys are fast.. :P23:27
Vermuxtoo many problems for a simple thing23:28
casper__hello! I have a primary partition with windows that i want to get rid of. My linux is on and extended partition. Is it safe to remove the primary partition with qtparted without trashing my linux partition?23:28
oemhay23:28
casper__justin_: No not as default but apt-get install nvidia-glx-new23:28
biovorecasper__: I think the kernel and grub need to be in a real partition.. (not 100% sure on that)23:28
nosrednaekimcasper__: what are you going to do with that partition?23:28
nosrednaekimbiovore: I don't think so.... I'm running my kernel on a extended and my grub is on the MBR23:29
casper__hopefully merge it with a large storage partition which is also extended23:29
StrangeletHow can I set Kubuntu to run certain programs when I log into my account? Is there a configuration file somewhere that I would have to edit?23:29
nosrednaekimcasper__: well, thats probably not going to work unless you use LVM23:29
casper__LVM?23:30
Martijn1981howto see how big your hard drive is?23:31
casper__Martijn1981: df -h23:32
StrangeletHow can I set Kubuntu to run certain programs when I log into my account? Is there a configuration file somewhere that I would have to edit?23:33
biovoreStrangelet: ~/.kde/AutoStart I think23:33
biovorebasicly just write a simple bash script in that directory.. will get run at login..23:33
casper__maybe just open what you want and save the session23:34
miladenIs there any "must have" packages i should look into? first time linuxer23:35
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, depends on what you are looking for23:36
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, you could install kde4 now, which is more like.. previewing still, but its quite safe to do and shows you what kickass desktop you might have in about 2 months23:37
miladenwhere can i read more about it?23:37
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, Id say.. firefox, kontact for your mail, krusader, amarok (which should be installed already), k3b, kaffeine, make sure you got all codecs installed (look in adept manager for w32, codecs, etc)23:38
sven_oostenbrink!kde4 | miladen23:38
ubotumiladen: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde423:38
applehypnosismiladen, Sure.23:39
Strangeletbiovore: Hmm.. what would a bash script look like if I am trying to run Compiz-Fusion? Do I simply put in "#!/bin/bash compiz"?23:39
applehypnosishow about the kde4 kmines? kopete for kde4?23:39
miladensven_oostenbrink whats new in kde4? im a n00b in linux23:39
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, also I could recommend some extra apt repositories..  take a look at http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/23:40
nosrednaekimmiladen: mostly looks, and its a bit faster too(for me)23:40
ibouwhen i start a video through konqueror it cause crash of kaffeine which i can't start after, even through the k menu23:40
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, kde4 is the next version of kde desktop.. you are using kubuntu? then your desktop is kde..23:40
applehypnosissven_oostenbrink: that thing is a 40423:40
miladenyes i know, so its the GUI thats changing?23:40
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, kde4 is faster, looks better and should in the end be better to use23:40
iboubut if i launch kaffeine through k menu after reboot it works and i can open the same video through the file open from kaffeine23:40
applehypnosissven_oostenbrink: when is the "end"?23:40
sven_oostenbrinkapplehypnosis, that link I just gave? erw, I have it open right here in front of me23:41
sven_oostenbrinkapplehypnosis, I suppose the "end" would be when its stable for use.. it has GREAT potential, but when I tried it I got 10 crashes in 5 minutes which is a wee bit too much for a production desktop23:41
sven_oostenbrinkapplehypnosis, and don't get me wrong.. I *WILL* install kde4 because it kicks ass!23:42
sven_oostenbrinkbut it needs to be stable first23:42
justin__when i enable the nvidia restricted driver it say unable to find package source driver not enabled23:42
justin__?23:42
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, the best thing todo right now is.. just play around.. try things23:43
tekteenjustin__: do you have the universe repo enabled?23:43
justin__how do i do that23:43
applehypnosissven_oostenbrink: i open the desktop and feel "something is missing"23:43
tekteen!repo23:43
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu23:43
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, play with adept manager, look for certtain softwares.. install them, remove them.. its not like windows where you install / uninstall 10 things and your windows will be dead..23:43
Darkrift411omfg, the card i bought has a friggen broadcom chipset also :@23:43
sven_oostenbrinkapplehypnosis, what do you mean?23:43
tekteen!repo| justin__23:43
ubotujustin__: please see above23:43
sven_oostenbrinkapplehypnosis, miladen, and damn yeah, the sources generator is no more :(23:44
applehypnosissven_oostenbrink: a right click on the desktop doesn't bring up the same menus.. like with the panel and the desktop.23:44
jumpkic1my X server is foobar after the latest update23:44
sven_oostenbrinkapplehypnosis, kde4 is going to be the kind of change again that needs you to try it for a little to get used to it.. but Im positive its going to be good23:44
miladensven_oostenbrink install/uninstall has no consequences?23:44
jumpkic1I can't leave KDM and still have video signal23:45
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, nope :)23:45
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, one thing to know though:23:45
jumpkic1can't login past KDM or flip to console23:45
Strangelethow do I make a bash script that will run Compiz-Fusion?23:45
tekteenStrangelet: when do you want it to run?23:45
jumpkic1Strangelet: put a script into .kde/Autostart/23:45
Strangeletupon boot23:45
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, adept manager is GREAT but sometimes a bit shaky still.. if something goes wrong, you can always ask here to fix it (wrong as in, adept manager crashes, next time on start up it won;t work anymore)23:45
applehypnosismiladen: dude, you are going to love the convenience of linux packages.23:45
Strangelettekteen: Upon login23:45
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, if you have any problems with adept manager, try this:23:45
sven_oostenbrink!aptfix | miladen23:46
miladen!aptfix23:46
miladensay waht? :D23:46
tekteenStrangelet: type "kwrite ~/.profile" in the konsole23:46
ubotumiladen: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »23:46
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, what applehypnosis says.. you will LOVE linux package installation..23:46
tekteenStrangelet: no quotes23:46
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, nothing is so easy as software installation and uninstallation on linux..23:46
Strangelettekteen: Okay, I have done that23:47
justin__it still does it23:47
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, the ! convention is to talk to bots which will give you a quick answer on a question you have23:47
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, !aptfix will give you an answer on how to fix adept23:47
tekteenStrangelet: then put " export KDEWM='compiz' " (no double quotes)23:47
sven_oostenbrink!aptfix23:47
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »23:47
miladenyeah i know, was a CS g33k some years back :)23:47
tekteenStrangelet: at the bottom23:47
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, sometimes it takes the bot a few seconds to reply but it will23:47
tekteenStrangelet: save then restart23:47
tekteenStrangelet: or login/out23:48
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, just don't give up on linux because you run in anything strange.. like, "I can't find outlook"... "thats why I will go back to windows"... ARGH!\23:48
Strangelettekteen: okee doke, login/out now :)23:48
sven_oostenbrinkend users are terrible..23:48
Darkrift411when you plug in a pcmcia card, should dmesg show something?23:48
holim not able to connect virtualbox whit my pc23:49
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, you know how the software packages work right?23:49
tekteenhol: what do you mean connect?23:49
justin__this it what happens when i try to enable propeity driver " the software source for the package nvidia-gfx-new, is not enabled"23:49
miladenyea23:50
miladensudo apt-get install firefox (ex.)23:50
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, try adept manager from the menu23:50
sven_oostenbrinkyou are using kubuntu right?23:50
miladenive tried that too, hehe ok its my 3rd day in kUbuntu23:50
tekteenjustin__: have you enabled the universe repo?23:50
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, adept manager has a very VERY nice search option.. :P23:51
miladeni've seen it, its amazing that it  can find PHP scripts for me :D23:51
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nosrednaekim!info nvidia-glx-new23:51
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, if you know how the packages work, I guess you also know what the sources.list is.. make sure you have all the necesary repositories in  your sources.list23:51
ubotunvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB23:51
tekteen!info nvidia-glx-new | justin__23:52
ubotujustin__: nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB23:52
miladensven_oostenbrink: no i dont know what that is23:53
justin__enabled universe23:53
justin__works23:53
justin__thanks23:53
nosrednaekimjustin__: you need to enable restricted23:53
miladen!sources.list23:53
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu23:53
tekteenjustin__: np23:53
justin__where is the KDE4 chanel23:53
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, no comment :)23:53
tekteenjustin__: #kubuntu-kde423:53
miladenhehe fast learner ;)23:53
miladensven_oostenbrink: what should my setup look like in the "update"menu23:56
miladensven_oostenbrink: should i select "unsupported updates"?23:56
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, eh, update menu? where? what program?23:57
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, if you want I can pastebin my sources.list.. problem only is that its a bit "dirty", there are broken and old links in there.. It works very fine though..23:58
miladensven_oostenbrink: should i select "unsupported updates"?23:58
miladenoh sorry23:58
miladensven_oostenbrink: i dont understand the repository site that the bot recommended :S23:58
sven_oostenbrinkmiladen, well.. its simple.. one sec23:59
Darkrift411lspci should list pcmcia devices right?23:59
miladencan i set my irc client to make a noise when someone writes my name?23:59

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