[00:03] <NickPresta> grayd2007, what do you need help with?
[00:05] <nzk> What's the name of that KDE program that is basically a stopwatch for how long you do things? I remember it was a very simple name.
[00:06] <nzk> You pressed "Start" and it measured how long you did something and then you pressed "Stop"
[00:06] <xRaich[o]2x> karm?
[00:06] <nzk> RIGHT!
[00:06] <nzk> Thanks
[00:06] <xRaich[o]2x> np
[00:06] <jcgkffycs>  I'm havign a problem changing permissions for some files. I have used chmod -R option dir I have tried using the gui utility in konqueror and I have tried running konqueror as kdesudo and I have tried the chmod comand  as sudo and I still have files inside of the tree that aer not changing.
[00:07] <NickPresta> jcgkffycs, which files?
[00:07] <jcgkffycs> their documents inside of my home folder
[00:09] <Fahuadai1> val0: Thanks for your help. Got it working. kubunut installer sees the drive and it's partitions as expected.
[00:15] <val0> Fahuadai1 no worries was glad to help out
[00:18] <lewix> how do i find the trash
[00:19] <NickPresta> lewix, ~/.local/share/Trash
[00:20] <lewix> NickPresta, how do i empty iy
[00:20] <lewix> it
[00:21] <NickPresta> lewix, in Konqueror, type in: trash:/ into the address bar
[00:21] <NickPresta> right click on the background and click "Empty trash bin"
[00:23] <lewix> NickPresta, thanks...how can we empty from the command line
[00:23] <lewix> NickPresta, how do i know how much space o have left
[00:23] <biovore> df =h
[00:23] <biovore> df -h
[00:24] <NickPresta> df -Th. Find the partition that holds your /home directory. Then `du -sh .local/share/Trash/` for the total space taken up by your trash. Subtract the total from the trash. :)
[00:25] <lewix> biovore, what does df stand for
[00:26] <biovore> disk free
[00:26] <NickPresta> lewix, `man df` for more information
[00:26] <lewix> ok i just did :0
[00:26] <lewix> thanks for the help
[00:51] <miladen> oi people
[00:51] <neville> ?
[00:51] <NickPresta> hi, miladen
[00:51] <miladen> Totally new in kubuntu and loving it :D
[00:51] <miladen> this is like the greatest wakeup call in my life :D
[00:51] <nosrednaekim> miladen: glad you're liing it :)
[00:52] <kalorin`> anyone had any issues wtih dolphin?
[00:52] <nosrednaekim> kalorin`: you bet :)
[00:52] <NickPresta> kalorin`, d3lphin or KDE 4 dolphin?
[00:52] <neville> Yeah, I found Dolphin to be dodgey too, so I just changed back to Konqueror
[00:52] <kalorin`> specifically, what I'm finding is that I leave a window open, and over time something happesn to it that itkicks off 100's of "df -k" commands that just hang
[00:53] <kalorin`> literally killed at least 250 of them a little big ago and then ti seems to dump the tcp/ip stack and just die
[00:53] <kalorin`> this is d3lphin
[00:53] <NickPresta> kalorin`, I don't like d3lphin. I would switch back to Konqueror if it suits your needs
[00:53] <kalorin`> I tied it back to the PID of the d3lphin that was running
[00:53] <miladen> Does any1 know how i can "delegate" more bandwith to my KTorrent? it seems to DL very slow
[00:53] <kalorin`> what I'd really like to find is something that can thumbnail .xcf and .dng and .crw (canon raw) image files
[00:53] <kalorin`> not just .jpg
[00:54] <kalorin`> konqueror works ok I guess, but no thumbnailing of images that aren't jpg
[00:54] <kalorin`> at least d3lphin did some o fthat
[00:57] <neville> .png shows up for me, .bmp too, and .gif :/
[00:58] <biovore> I get thumbnails for jpg,bmp,gif,png,xcf (and probobaly others) here
[00:58] <biovore> in konqueror
[00:59] <NickPresta> kalorin`, in the settings dialog, make sure you have media types checked and that the files you're trying to preview arent larger than the max. preview size
[01:02] <Ahmuck> hi.  i seem to have lost all networking on my laptop.  how do i fix this?
[01:03] <Ahmuck> is there a way to "reset" it?
[01:04] <matteo> Ahmuck: you should keep a backup floppy of the network
[01:04] <Ahmuck> yes, well, now what?
[01:13] <houston> anybody know how you get recently used apps to appear on KMenu?
[01:15] <NickPresta> houston, right click on task bar > configure > Menus > QuickStart Menu Items > Show the pplications most recently used
[01:15] <kalorin`> isn't there a widget that does that?
[01:18] <houston> ah great .. I'll have a look ta!
[01:32] <ignignokt> i'm trying to copy an encrypted dvd using k3b, and it gives me the error: "failed to retrieve all css keys" immediately.  k9copy just crashes doing the same thing. advice?
[01:32] <biovore> need decss decpder stuff
[01:33] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[01:33] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:34] <ignignokt> i know, i have all libdvdcss and libdvdread stuff, i've been copying dvds successfully for a while and it just started doing this
[01:34] <ignignokt> i reinstalled libdvdcss
[01:34] <biovore> I think libdvdcss is defunct by default..
[01:34] <ignignokt> what do you mean?
[01:35] <Dr_willis> id say google for that exact error message. may be somthing   we are unaware of.
[01:35] <miladen> Can any1 tell me howto zip a folder in kubuntu?
[01:35] <Dr_willis> Is it just newer dvd's its having issues with?
[01:35] <NickPresta> ignignokt, I agree with Dr_Willis. This looks like a special case, most likely
[01:35] <niall> yo Dr_willis
[01:35] <miladen> Can any1 tell me howto zip a folder in kubuntu?
[01:35] <Dr_willis> miladen,  use the zip command, or a gui based archive tool.
[01:36] <niall> you could try rights clicking it and going to actions > extract here
[01:36] <miladen> yeah but what is the zip command other than zip
[01:36] <ignignokt> Dr_willis: that sounds reasonable, this is the only dvd i've ever had trouble with and it is fairly new
[01:36] <ignignokt> thanks
[01:36] <Dr_willis> miladen,   you just said zip. :) theres dozen of alternatives to zip
[01:36] <biovore> ignignokt: decss violates DCMA so there not technialy allow to distrubute it in the US..  look at the readme file in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3
[01:36] <niall> Dr_willis: I got that file to install eventually ;]
[01:36] <miladen-dk> like : zip folder=folder foldername?
[01:36] <Dr_willis> bgzip
[01:37] <miladen-dk> i googled it for an hour now :S
[01:37] <Dr_willis> miladen-dk,  read the man pages for the zip command? or try zip --help ?
[01:37] <Dr_willis> -help not -- help :)
[01:37] <miladen-dk> dont really understand it... isnt it just a simple command you can type in?
[01:38] <Dr_willis> zip has a lot of optiuons
[01:38] <Dr_willis> You could use some of the gui archiving tools like ark
[01:38] <miladen-dk> if i just want to zip a folder in my working directory
[01:38] <Dr_willis> ls
[01:38] <Dr_willis> oops
[01:38] <biovore> hehe
[01:39] <Dr_willis>  zip foo.zip *
[01:39] <miladen-dk> in zip -help there is no create funktion
[01:39] <miladen-dk> function*
[01:40] <Dr_willis> zip [-options] [-b path] [-t mmddyyyy] [-n suffixes] [zipfile list] [-xi list]
[01:40] <Dr_willis> zip zipfilename list-of-files
[01:40] <miladen-dk> i cant write foldername?
[01:40] <Dr_willis> give it a directory/* then.. try it and see
[01:41] <Dr_willis> zip foo.zip *    worked forme
[01:41] <miladen-dk> say what? :S im a newb
[01:41] <Dr_willis> zip foo.zip /path/to/whatever/*
[01:41] <miladen-dk> Dr_willis thx
[01:42] <miladen-dk> zip zipname.zip * helped
[01:42] <Dr_willis> http://linux.about.com/od/commands/a/blcmdl1_zipx.htm
[01:43] <Dr_willis> google showed an example page of the command
[01:47] <Max-P> Hi, can Kubuntu reboot itself for no reasons?
[01:48] <LjL> no, if it reboots, there's a reason
[01:48] <biovore> your mobo can reboot for no reason..
[01:48] <LjL> it might be hard to find though
[01:49] <Max-P> I'm reading the system log
[01:49] <Max-P> but I don't see anything
[01:49] <Max-P> the last time it does that, it was overheating
[01:49] <Max-P> but it is at 55C
[01:49] <biovore> yeah.. bios might be kicking in..
[01:50] <Max-P> =/
[01:50] <Max-P> Maybe a crash of KDM or X
[01:50] <Max-P> I was testing KDM Themes
[01:50] <Max-P> It worked
[01:51] <Max-P> then I was changing the song playing in AmaroK and Kubuntu stopped (like if I selected the Shutdown option)
[01:51] <Max-P> strange
[01:51] <sven_oostenbrink> Im trying to print a pdf file from kpdf, but nothing is happening.. no printing, no error, no nothing
[01:51] <sven_oostenbrink> Is there a way I can find out why?
[01:51] <sven_oostenbrink> cups is running ok
[01:51] <sven_oostenbrink> its just not doing anything when I press the print button
[01:52] <biovore> paper size problem maybe?
[01:53] <Dr_willis> check the logs in /var/logs also.
[01:53] <Dr_willis> run the kpdf tool from a terminal also, and try printing - it may show some info.
[01:54] <miladen-dk> whats the best linux HP?
[01:54] <Dr_willis> hp?
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> miladen-dk: linux HP? desktop? notebook?printer?
[01:54] <Dr_willis> It pays to be very clear and concise on irc. :)
[01:55] <miladen-dk> hp = homepage
[01:55] <miladen-dk> hehe
[01:55] <Dr_willis> Gee....
[01:55] <miladen-dk> sorry
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> LOL
[01:55] <Dr_willis> google.com/linux
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> I use tuxmachines
[01:55] <Dr_willis> theres several linux links web pages also.
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> planet ubuntu is good as well
[01:55] <echoes84> is it possible to to add a second panel in kde4 yet?  i don't think it is, but i just want a confirmation...
[01:55] <Dr_willis> Ijust set up live bookmarks for a few pages. theres several ubuntu specific pages out also.
[01:57] <asdasdsa> how can i have a gif picture as my wallpaper?
[01:57] <bishnu_> i needed to setup wireless access in kubuntu
[01:57] <bishnu_> can anybody help
[01:58] <echoes84> gif images are supported as wallpapers in kde at least
[01:58] <miladen-dk> why can i only choose "request install" in adept and not just "install" ? when does my request happen?
[01:59] <miladen-dk> do i have to go to my konsole and press sudo apt-get install everytime?
[01:59] <latergua> how can i have a gif picture as my wallpaper?
[02:00] <bmk789> is there a way to change kmix's interval for changing volume?
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> miladen-dk: when you hit apply all the changes are applyed
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> bmk789: I don't think so
[02:01] <bmk789> :\ the jumps are too big to be useful
[02:01] <unclemike> on a  P2 450 mhz  384 mb ram...and a 256 mb nvidia vid card..how well does kubuntu 7.10 run
[02:02] <miladen-dk> nosrednaekim thx man
[02:05] <latergua> how can i have a moving g if picture as my wallpaper(Ubuntu)?
[02:05] <ubuntu> HI
[02:06] <arrow4> could someone tell me program to use on kubuntu for connecting to VPN setup on Microsoft Server?
[02:06] <sgrover> Anyone know how to reset my NIC to be eth0 again?  It's being set up as eth2, and messing up my VMWare connections
[02:07] <sgrover> arrow4: you'll need the PPTP packages I think.  But other than that, I think just openVPN.  The knetwork manager can connect to VPNs once the environment is in place.
[02:07] <arrow4> have all those plugins installed
[02:08] <arrow4> even have Kvpnc installed
[02:08] <ubuntu> how many Gbytes spends a kubuntu partition on my HDD?
[02:08] <sgrover> arrow4: right-click on the knetwork manager, there might be a VPN item there...  (it was when I connected once before this way...)
[02:09] <sgrover> arrow4: this might help:  http://grover.open2space.com/node/162
[02:09] <arrow4> ok
[02:10] <arrow4> thanks will check this out
[02:10] <arrow4> this is only thing hold me back to move away from Windows
[02:11] <sgrover> It's just a quick blog entry pointing to another article...  Don't give up, I know it's possible.  I do VPN via openvpn to an IPCop firewall (which then gives me access to the internal servers, which will prompt for authentication as needed).
[02:11] <sgrover> But if you're going to a Windows VPN server, I don't think openvpn will work well...
[02:12] <arrow4> oh
[02:12] <arrow4> have to login work vpn to mange lovely MS servers.
[02:13] <sgrover> arrow4: understood.  I vpn in to access the IIS server and keep that running.  But they were smart and went with IPCop for the firewall.. :)
[02:14] <arrow4> how is IPCop for firewall, never had change to try that out?
[02:15] <|Quest|_> if i ssh or telnet any shell. can i be harmed or what harm can i make to the shell?
[02:15] <arrow4> anyone know hold up with the final release of WUBI 7.10, still in beta
[02:16] <sgrover> I've been using it since 1.3.1.  Never a complaint.  I host my own servers behind it, and have a coupld of the plugins (openvpn).  It's never let me down.  Hardware failure yes, but not a system failure.
[02:16] <arrow4> And it's free
[02:16] <arrow4> compared to hardware firewall
[02:17] <sgrover> You still need hardware...  but you can use older boxes kicking around.  Mine is running on a PIII-700, before that it was a Pentium 166.
[02:18] <arrow4> Oh yea
[02:18] <arrow4> but purchasing a hardware device compared to making your own
[02:20] <larry> I am trying (for the first time on kubuntu) to reconfigure my kernel.  I tried "make menuconfig", but it fails because of a missing curses.h file.  Is kubuntu THAT different from gentoo?
[02:20] <sgrover> The cheapy consumer firewalls quickly become unsuitable when you start hosting servers, or have multiple external IPs to setup forwarding rules for...  IPCop gives me the same capabilities as the Cisco routers I used years ago, with an easier interface...
[02:21] <arrow4> has to be gui based program for connecting to PPTP VPN Server more user friendly
[02:21] <lontra> larry: you need to install ncurses
[02:21] <sgrover> larry: did you do an apt-get install build-essentials ?  That *should* resolve that problem for you.
[02:21] <sgrover> not to mention you need to that to do the compiling...
[02:21]  * lontra ponders moving from debian to kubuntu
[02:22] <larry> Thanks, Iontra, I will sign-off and try that.  sgrover - nope, I'll do that too.
[02:22] <arrow4> That is true sgrover, home firewall do become flakey
[02:23] <sgrover> arrow4: hehe.. yep.  My customer was running 40+ workstations behind a cheap linksys.  Couldn't figure out why their Internet kept going down.
[02:23] <lontra> larry: specifically for make menuconfig it's ncurses-dev
[02:24] <arrow4> anyone using WUBI?
[02:24] <larry> thanks again, Iontra, I am gone to try!
[02:24] <sgrover> larry: there's lots of how-to's out there.  Here's the first I found for "ubuntu compile kernel" - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24853
[02:29] <sgrover> right back - need to restart networking (maybe with reboot)
[02:31] <arrow4> MPPE is what I need
[02:31] <arrow4> to get PPTP Client to work
[02:31] <|Quest|_>  iam asking coz some one asked me to give shell to host his eggdrop. and i asked some one too. to host my eggdrop on his pc.  i just wanted to know how it works. how to setup and what type of acces is given to a person using shell on someones else pc. and does the user has any thing to worry?
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> |Quest|_: depends on what priveledges you give them
[02:33] <sgrover> Fixed my NIC issue.  the designators are assigned in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.  Just commented out the original eth0 and eth2 lines, then copied the eth2 and changed it to eth0.  All better...
[02:34] <sgrover> but took a reboot.
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> sgrover: I have the same problem!
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> sgrover: it doesn't really bother me though <_<
[02:35] <sgrover> nosrednaekim: there's the fix.. :)
[02:35] <sgrover> nosrednaekim: normally, I wouldn't care.  But I have VMs that I move between machines, and the networking is all set up for eth0
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> ah... ok
[02:37] <Strangelet> Can anyone here recommend a suitable webcam application? I cannot find anything :\
[02:38] <sgrover> This is the fallout from a week of hell starting with a memory upgrade.  Needed to install 64 bit *buntu to get my full 5 GB of ram, then motherboard failed a day later, then replacement board was DOA.  Then the replacement for replacement went belly up (voltage issues), and now I have a MB that seems to be stable... phew.
[02:38] <sgrover> Strangelet: if you find one, let me know?  The only one I'm aware of is the one that comes on the EeePC.
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> sgrover: lol
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> Strangelet: to do what? skype works...
[02:40] <dsmith> #compiz
[02:40] <dsmith> ooops
[02:40] <Strangelet> nosrednaekim: Mostly to take photos, for facebook and such :)
[02:40] <sgrover> Strangelet: there's a few possible leads here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=kubuntu+webcam&btnG=Search
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> !search webcam
[02:41] <ubotu> Found: webcam, cam, webcams
[02:41] <Strangelet> sgrover: hmm, I will search through these :)
[02:41] <sgrover> (was trying to find you a definitive answer, but didn't see one right away...)
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> Strangelet: take a look at the app "webcam"
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> or camgrab
[02:42] <Strangelet> nosrednaekim: I tried out webcam, didn't work too well :(
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> Strangelet: check out cheese as well
[02:46] <Strangelet> nosrednaekim: Ehh, tried it, terrible photo quality
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> well, I think you can buy the one included with the eeepc
[02:52] <Strangelet> hmm, what is the default directory leading to the webcam itself?
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> probably in /dev somewhere
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> it might depend on your model
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> !webcam
[02:52] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:54] <Strangelet> thanks :)
[02:54] <niall> so how do I get flash working in Kubuntu?
[02:54] <niall> I don't wanna try until I know exactly how to do, so I don't mess it up :x
[02:54] <NickPresta> !flash | niall
[02:54] <ubotu> niall: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:54] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[02:55] <niall> how long would I have to wait for an official fix? :x
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> niall: I have no clue.....
[02:55] <niall> also
[02:55] <niall> I'm currently using konquerer, not firefox :X
[02:56] <niall> does that make a difference?
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> niall: makes it a bit easier I think
[02:57] <ardchoille> niall: iirc, the current flash plugin doesn't work with konqueror because Adobe added something to the release that konqueror doesn't support.
[02:57] <niall> balls
[02:59] <michaelnovakjr> ardchoille: do we know what that something is by chance?
[03:01] <ardchoille> michaelnovakjr: I remember libx*** but that's it
[03:02] <michaelnovakjr> anywhere i could look it up?
[03:02] <ardchoille> Hold on
[03:02] <michaelnovakjr> thanks
[03:08] <ardchoille> michaelnovakjr: the reason for this is konqueror does not support XEmbed
[03:18] <adsfasdfasdfasdf> how can i add audio (mp3 file ) to a video (mpg) ?
[03:18] <adsfasdfasdfasdf> without using avidemux :D
[03:22] <flamesage> !hi | flamesage
[03:23] <flamesage> How's everyone doin?
[03:33] <echoes84> is there a kde4 based hardy disc (any release, i.e. a1, a2, etc)?
[03:34] <genii> echoes84: Since Hardy will not be shipping with kde4, no
[03:35] <echoes84> what?  kubuntu is shipping with kde4.
[03:37] <niall> I thought it was shipping with both
[03:37] <genii> echoes84: It ships with kde 3.5.8 and kde4 is available as a meta package
[03:37] <niall> there's a kubuntu KDE4 live CD
[03:38] <echoes84> actually, genii, i thinks its the other way around.
[03:38] <echoes84> they announced kubuntu 8.04 will not be a LTS release & will ship with kde4, with an alternate kde3 disc.
[03:38] <niall> yeah
[03:38] <niall> I read that
[03:38] <genii> I am referring from https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Alpha3/Kubuntu
[03:39] <echoes84> @ niall, i know there is a gutsy kde4 disc, but i was wondering if there is a hardy one...
[03:39] <genii> "The focus for 8.04 with KDE 3.5 for the Kubuntu community will be stability." etc etc
[03:40] <echoes84> i think that was before they reversed their descision about which version of kde to include by default.
[03:40] <niall> 'It was recently [WWW] announced that Kubuntu 8.04 will not be an LTS release. Due to this news, the goals for the release have been revised, with more effort focused on the newly released KDE 4.0. Kubuntu Hardy will now ship two CDs: one with KDE 3.5, supported for the standard 18 months, and one with KDE 4.0, supported by the community for 6 months. Users upgrading from Kubuntu Gutsy will get the KDE 3.5 desktop. '
[03:40] <echoes84> yeah, one of the first sentences of a3 release page says: "It was recently [WWW] announced that Kubuntu 8.04 will not be an LTS release. Due to this news, the goals for the release have been revised, with more effort focused on the newly released KDE 4.0"
[03:41] <echoes84> oops, my bad, niall beat me to it.
[03:41] <niall> ;]
[03:41] <genii> echoes84: Heh :)
[03:41] <niall> you could download the kubuntu hardy alpha 3
[03:42] <echoes84> thats what i was just wondering about.  i'm confused, does the a3 disc have kde4 by default or kde3?
[03:42] <niall> it doesn't say
[03:42] <echoes84> so i noticed...
[03:42] <echoes84> i'll check wikipedia
[03:42] <genii> If upgrading it looks like 3.5.X defaults
[03:43] <genii> I'm not installineg Hardy yet until out of alpha, preferably RC version
[03:43] <niall> will it's due to ship in April
[03:43] <echoes84> i'm running hardy as we speak with kde3, kde4, & enlightenment.
[03:43] <genii> Tho running kde4 on Gutsy
[03:44] <niall> I tried running KDE4
[03:44] <echoes84> atm i'm in kde3.
[03:44] <niall> I downloaded that live CD anyway
[03:44] <niall> and it ran really slow
[03:44] <echoes84> i can't find a definitive answer as to whether a3 ships with kde3 or kde4 by default...i guess i'll have to read through the package list.
[03:44] <genii> I'm in 3.5.8 usually and 4 for testing
[03:45] <niall> echoes84: good plan
[03:45] <echoes84> its the only plan.
[03:45] <niall> ;D
[03:46] <niall> have you tried koffice2?
[03:47] <echoes84> yes, briefly.
[03:47] <echoes84> i use ooo tho.
[03:48] <echoes84> koffice's ui is quite a bit differently layed out compared to ooo
[03:48] <niall> yeah
[03:48] <echoes84> well, i read the a3 package list, but its quite short...
[03:48] <niall> and is ooo is basically laid out like office
[03:48] <echoes84> and it seems that it only lists the barebones/low level packages.
[03:49] <echoes84> yes, thats right, ooo is laid out like mso.
[03:49] <echoes84> i hope someone makes an oxygen style for ooo so that it better integrates w/ kde4.
[03:49] <echoes84> i guess the only way to find out if a3 ships with kde3 or kde4 by default is to download the whole thing!  :(
[03:50] <niall> yus :<
[03:50] <echoes84> oh well, at least i'm on broadband and not dialup.  now that would be a problem...
[03:50] <niall> is there not some way you could check the package list in kubuntu?
[03:50] <niall> like add the alpha repository and download the list using apt or some junk
[03:51] <ubunturos> with dapper, I get an error message, "The process for System protocol died unexpectedly" - any clue why this is happening (the system menu on the KDE-panel)
[03:51] <niall> or is that totally what you did
[03:52] <echoes84> oh yeah, i could do that...
[03:52] <echoes84> no, there is a package list on the download page.
[03:53] <echoes84> i checked that.
[03:53] <echoes84> can anyone help me choose another language in kde(3)?  i have all the appropriate language packages installed but the language does not show up in the language selector.
[03:53] <niall> yeah, I assumed that's what you would have done
[04:00] <makers_mark> kde4 any good?
[04:00] <larry> I purchased a 500GB usb2 drive for backup, and now have many files on it.  I need to adjust the time before it auto-spins-down, so I don't get io errs.  It is mounted as a scsi disk.  I have read the linux HOWTOs, where is best to read more?
[04:01] <biovore> larry: well if you unmount the disk.. the harddisk should part it's head..  I think you might be able to do it via hdparm..
[04:02] <larry> I shall read hdparm, biovore, thanks!
[04:03] <biovore> larry: there is also scsi-idle sg_start hd-idle.. not sure which on is on ubuntu..
[04:03] <niall> in the kde widget settings
[04:03] <niall> what does it mean by rubber band?
[04:03] <biovore> larry: there is also sdparm
[04:03] <larry> biovore - I'll try to find out.
[04:06] <niall> nn
[04:08] <Pendeta> We are win xp users, trying to switch to kubuntu. The file system seems to be quite different. Is there a document somewhere that explains how to use it. For example, how to determine the path to a file?
[04:11] <genii> Pendeta: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[04:11] <biovore> Pendeta: no drive letters.. yeah.. its a brave new world bound to warp your mind..  http://tille.garrels.be/training/tldp/ <-- good place to start for new linux/unix users
[04:11] <genii> !fhs
[04:11] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[04:12] <genii> also
[04:12] <ubunturos> Pendeta: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/dirs.html - shoud help too
[04:13] <ubunturos> with dapper, I get an error message, "The process for System protocol died unexpectedly" - any clue why this is happening (the system menu on the KDE-panel)
[04:13] <Pendeta> Thank you!
[04:14] <makers_mark> hey,i'm running ubuntu and just installed kde but it installed v. 3.5.8 - how can i upgrade to version 4 from terminal (i'm a nubcake with linux)
[04:14] <biovore> makers_mark: probably don't want to run kde4 yet..  Not ready for prime time
[04:14] <biovore> !kde4
[04:14] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[04:15] <makers_mark> thanks
[04:15] <Ellement> Hopefully someone can help me. I just installed kubuntu and now need to install driver for ati vid card. i tried the restircted drivers method but system said i didnt need any. i looked on ati site and they have a linux x86 driver for my card can i install that?
[04:16] <mixed> how do the change the window size of terminals?
[04:16] <genii> Ellement: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[04:17] <mixed> !window size
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about window size - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <Ellement> thanks genii
[04:17] <mixed> anyone know how to change the default size of the app windows?
[04:18] <genii> Ellement: np
[04:20] <makers_mark> hey,there's this panel at the top of the screen with kde and it won't let me remove it.help?
[04:22] <Ellement> genii: it says "Make sure the restricted repository is enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list or this guide will not work!" System > Administration > Software Sources. Check "Proprietary Drivers for Devices (Restricted)" box.   but i cant see see system > administration
[04:23] <genii> Ellement: This is a Gnome-ism. Instead go to Add/Remove programs
[04:24] <genii> Ellement: Make sure "proprietary software"   is checked off
[04:24] <Pendeta> Thanks to all of you that helped me!
[04:25] <Ellement> genii: ok
[04:25] <Ellement> thanks
[04:26] <Odd-rationale> Hello! I don't have any ~/.bashrc file. Is there one hiding somewhere in the filesystem that I can just cpoy?
[04:26] <Odd-rationale> *copy?
[04:26] <Ellement> genii: it opened up adept installer. i unchecked "proprietary software"  now do i exit that and go back to restricted drivers, or do i handle it in adept install now?
[04:27] <ardchoille> Odd-rationale: Try: /etc/skel/.bashrc
[04:28] <Odd-rationale> ardchoille: Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks so much!
[04:28] <genii> Ellement: After you checked off the "propprietary software" box safe to close Adept. It just enables the repositories you need
[04:28] <ardchoille> Odd-rationale: yw
[04:30] <Ellement> genii: ok
[04:35] <Ellement> genii: have tried all commands under Method 1: Install the Driver the Ubuntu Way and still not getting anywhere :(
[04:35] <genii> Ellement: Do the manual install
[04:36] <Ellement> wwerid: i opend adept installer again and proprietary software was checked even tho i unchecked it
[04:38] <Ellement> genii: whats considered the "downloads" folder home?
[04:39] <genii> Ellement: usually if not changed then /home/yourusername
[04:46] <aldo> spam irc.rizon.net with server address irc.hydroblunt.net
[04:47] <NickPresta> no aldo, no
[04:47] <aldo> why not rizon sucks
[04:48] <NickPresta> aldo, that's fine. This is not the place for this discussion, thanks.
[05:11] <Ellement> genii: when i type sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx i get an error saying depends: libstdc++5 but it is not installable
[05:16] <sigma_1234> i have embedded acrobat reader into konqueror but when i try enter data into pdf forms i cannot type anything
[05:16] <sigma_1234> the cursor blinks but when i type nothing happens
[05:30] <homoludens> hi there, sorry for posting on this channel. where can i ask newbee questions regarding kontact? i want to find out how to get basket embedded into kontact. thanks ...
[05:31] <homoludens> basket somehow seems to be disabled from the "add components" menu under "configure kontact".
[05:31] <homoludens> other components such as kalarm and kpilot do show up, though ...
[05:32] <homoludens> i googled for a solution & checked the (k)ubuntu forums, but couldn't find anything informative. am i the only one with this problem? :(
[05:36] <olddude67> homoludens, i didnt see it in mine either but i dont use it either.
[05:36] <homoludens> oh ... :((
[05:37] <olddude67> i just looked, and didnt see anything about it, whats its purpose anyways?
[05:38] <Max_-> Hi, I'm actually on the LiveCD and trying to install... I've read somewhere that RAID were easy to setup on installation, ... now I can't see how to do this, my RAID partitions are not recognized and I can't set them back to raid partitions either.. what's wrong?
[05:41] <olddude67> homoludens, you have to do sudo apt-get install basket try that.
[05:44] <jalbert> I keep getting an error whenever I try to run Adept
[05:44] <olddude67> Max_, have you tried asking that question in the regular ubuntu channel?
[05:44] <jalbert> it says another process is using the database
[05:45] <jalbert> how can I identify and close this process?
[05:45] <homoludens> olddude67:basket is an excellent note manager / outliner etc., similar to ms' onenote (or whatever that one was called). knotes is a bit too simple for my purposes -- i was looking for something matching outlook's note taking facilities --, so basket seemed like a good replacement. see http://basket.kde.org/.
[05:45] <Max_-> olddude67: just did...
[05:45] <olddude67> homoludens, well i just did apt-get on it and it changed how my kontact looked.
[05:46] <olddude67> did you try that?
[05:46] <jalbert> is there a way to find what application might be using the package database?
[05:46] <olddude67> ps -e in terminal
[05:46] <homoludens> olddude67: did you use the terminal, or the gui apt-get?
[05:46] <olddude67> terminal
[05:46] <homoludens> thanks, i'll try it.
[05:46] <olddude67> to use to slackware
[05:46] <jalbert> anyone?
[05:47] <Max_-> people knowing about raids are very rare.... I must be the only of a kind to have a laptop with 2 HDDs
[05:47] <olddude67> jalbert, ps -e in terminal
[05:47] <jalbert> oh ok thx
[05:47] <olddude67> will tell you everything running
[05:48] <olddude67> Max_ ya i havent heard of to many people having 2 hdds in a laptop.
[05:48] <jalbert> how can I kill adept_installer?
[05:48] <sigma_1234> how do i use module assistant to build a package?
[05:49] <olddude67> jalbert, kill  and then the number in front of it.
[05:49] <jalbert> yeah I tried that and it won't let me
[05:49] <jalbert> lemme try sudo kill x
[05:49] <Max_-> olddude67: I've had a very good experience with Fedora on RAID1, and since I'm searching for a better OS supporting RAID1 easily too... Else I'll have to backup like everyone.. but that was the point in having two HDDs, not backuping all the time!
[05:50] <jalbert> damn
[05:50] <jalbert> still getting that error
[05:50] <olddude67> Max_, have you tried in #raid?
[05:50] <jalbert> wtf?
[05:51] <jalbert> is there any way to find the process that's uding the package database?
[05:51] <Max_-> olddude67: no, didn't know that existed, but raid support is very OS dependant... well I'll go see if they can help, thanks for the suggestion
[05:52] <olddude67> jalbert probably but i wouldnt know im just switching from slackware.
[05:52] <SoftVision> hi is anyone experiencing missing icons in kubuntu's packaged kde4? has an update been issued to fix this?
[05:52] <jalbert> this is really frustrating
[05:52] <Max_-> olddude67: it doesn't exist :P
[05:52] <olddude67> Max_, sorry thought it would be worth a shot.
[05:53] <Max_-> np
[05:56] <jalbert> this is unbeleivable
[05:56] <jalbert> so there's no way to find the process that's using the package database?
[05:57] <jalbert> I guess I'm going to have to just reformat and reinstall everything and start over from scratch
[05:57] <jalbert> I can't upgrade
[05:57] <jalbert> I can't install or uninstall anything
[05:58] <jalbert> except by downloading source and compiling it
[05:58] <jalbert> and even that doesn't work half the time
[06:00] <jordoex> does anyone know how to use the upgrade manager to upgrade to hardy alpha 3? I really want projectM but compiling it doesn't seem to work.
[06:00] <jordoex> and it's in hardy and not gutsy
[06:05] <till_> arrrg. just did "sudo apt-get upgrade" on my gutsy box and now i can't launch eclipse. it crashes with "The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'." message in console. what could it be?
[06:05] <jalbert> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[06:06] <jalbert> this is bullshit
[06:06] <jalbert> I'm spending mnore time dicking around than I am getting anything done
[06:08] <michaelnovakjr> jalbert just kill -9 the process and restart the manager
[06:09] <jalbert> which process?
[06:09] <jalbert> I'm just doing sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:09] <till_> eclipse reports this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52369/ anything i can do to solve this?
[06:09] <michaelnovakjr> jalbert if you get the message that another process is running the package system kill that one
[06:10] <jalbert> it doesnt tell me which process
[06:10] <jalbert> just says "another process"
[06:10] <michaelnovakjr> jalbert run this... ps -elf | grep adept
[06:10] <jalbert> now adept won't open at all
[06:10] <awarring> why when i try to sudo apt-get install g++, it asks me to insert the kubuntu cdrom?
[06:10] <jalbert> \what's elf?
[06:11] <jalbert> I mean -elf?
[06:11] <michaelnovakjr> jalbert when you run that command note the process id ..... then just run kill -9 <pid>
[06:11] <jalbert> ok
[06:12] <jalbert> well adept loaded now
[06:12] <jalbert> but I don't see most of the packages that ought to be there
[06:12] <jalbert> my repos list is messed up
[06:13] <michaelnovakjr> jalbert, i think the adept manager is absolutely terrible, i can't tell you the amount of problems I have had with it
[06:13] <jalbert> half the stuff that used to be there
[06:13] <jalbert> well somehow my Skype installation got f-d up
[06:14] <jalbert> I am trying to install it because my cell phone just died
[06:14] <jalbert> and it's not in the packagers list
[06:14] <jalbert> *packages list*
[06:16] <jalbert> this is such crap
[06:17] <jalbert> here's another error I get *all* the time:
[06:17] <jalbert> ps -elf | grep adept
[06:17] <jalbert> damn\
[06:17] <jalbert> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[06:17] <Val0> does anyone here use centerim?
[06:17] <jalbert> that happens *every time* I use adept
[06:17] <jalbert> every dingle time
[06:17] <jalbert> single
[06:17] <Val0> jalbert check out the ubuntu forums for that fix
[06:18] <Val0> jalbert you need to add something to your repo list
[06:19] <jalbert> nothing in the forums about that
[06:20] <jalbert> when I search for that error I get no matches
[06:20] <Val0> jalbert hold on i have that error bookmark from the forums
[06:20] <jalbert> I'm just going to go ahead and try to upgrade
[06:21] <Val0> jalbert it probably won't work but it's a simple fix
[06:22] <michaelnovakjr> Val0 can you give me that link, I also have the adept problem described
[06:22] <Val0> michaelnovakjr yeh just one sex
[06:22] <Val0> sec*
[06:23] <michaelnovakjr> Val0 thanks
[06:26] <Val0> ok what you need to do is go to your Adept Installer>Edit Software Sources>Updates and add Pre-released updates
[06:26] <Val0> then sudo apt-get update
[06:26] <Val0> then you can again
[06:26] <Val0> should fix it for you
[06:27] <jalbert> how can I upgrade to Gutsy via the command line?
[06:27] <jalbert> I'm running Feisty now
[06:31] <Val0> jalbert that i can't help you with :D
[06:32] <calcmandan> anyone run a website with streaming audio?
[06:32] <bazhang> !upgrade | jalbert
[06:32] <ubotu> jalbert: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:35] <Val0> michaelnovakjr did it work?
[06:35] <michaelnovakjr> i have to kill the process.. it crashed on me again
[06:35] <Val0> michaelnovakjr ok
[06:51] <Ellement> rubin: well got fglrx to install which is good. but restricted drivers still not working. so still cant install ati driver
[06:52] <kost__> сколько тут народу
[06:54] <sigma> how do i program a shortcut to open up a url in firefox and not konqueror? i still want konq as my default browser
[06:55] <K44ALL_Marphine> \/msg nickserv register ambpea
[06:56] <kost__> фак
[06:56] <Val0> lol
[06:57] <kost__> кубунтуу нафиг
[06:57] <Val0> kost dont like it?
[06:58] <c1|freaky> hi all. does someone know if theres a way to configure the new, kde4 system bar? (that thing replacing kicker)?
[06:59] <kost__> :(
[07:02] <till_> c1|freaky: it's not configurable atm because plasma isn't finished yet imho
[07:03] <c1|freaky> ok
[07:03] <kost__> kde 3.5 foreva
[07:03] <c1|freaky> kde4 really looks nice but strange things keep happening
[07:04] <till_> c1|freaky: it's just the beginning :)
[07:05] <c1|freaky> hopefully they get some work done soon i really dont want to use kde3.5 anymore
[07:05] <Lynoure> heh, new broken is always more fun than the same old? =)
[07:06] <till_> i switched back to kde 3.5 from kde4 because the last one is laggy with opengl on my g-force 5700 :(
[07:06] <c1|freaky> if there are enough good changes sure
[07:06] <ForgeAus> you could get kde 3.8 in the meantime
[07:07] <c1|freaky> im talking about 3.8
[07:07] <c1|freaky> i guess
[07:07] <c1|freaky> gotta reboot
[07:07] <c1|freaky> or, restart x
[07:07] <c1|freaky> one moment
[07:08] <kost__> :)
[07:12] <c1|freaky> back at kde3 now
[07:13] <SupermarketFall> HELP ME INSTALL kUBUNTU WITHOUT DRIVES
[07:13] <ForgeAus> without drives?
[07:13] <ForgeAus> thats an odd one
[07:13] <kost__> i from syberia, russia, we use kubuntu
[07:13] <SupermarketFall> Does SuN SUPPORT IT
[07:14] <SupermarketFall> errrr
[07:14] <ForgeAus> awesome kost
[07:14] <SupermarketFall> I need i386 Ubuntu.
[07:14] <appelza> SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE
[07:14] <ForgeAus> hey intellikey :)
[07:14] <SupermarketFall> or Kubuntu for Konquorer.
[07:14] <intelikey> ForgeAus shalom
[07:14] <ForgeAus> Supermarket what do you mean without drives?
[07:14] <SupermarketFall> Will Ubuntu install on my 386?
[07:15] <ForgeAus> Supermarket it will run but you do require a drive to install it to...
[07:15] <intelikey> grub question; can grub display it's menu on a picture like lilo can ?
[07:16] <ForgeAus> yes intelikey
[07:16] <SupermarketFall> intelikey: GRAMMAR CORRECTION: its
[07:16] <ForgeAus> theres a gspash or something like that
[07:16] <ForgeAus> yeah well displaying it is menu doesn't make sense Supermarket
[07:16] <intelikey> SupermarketFall habit from cli   never use ' unless you mean it.
[07:16] <ForgeAus> I think most people that can read English are able to overlook that minor grammatic mistake
[07:17] <ForgeAus> wb kost
[07:17] <kost_> :)
[07:17] <SupermarketFall> ForgeAus: Tell my English teacher that.
[07:17] <ForgeAus> Supermarket I don't know her, perhaps you should
[07:17] <ForgeAus> if she's that evil
[07:17] <dhq> how do i get transperent theme for gkrellm
[07:18] <hajhouse> how can i share a locally connect printer (on parallel port) so that other users on my local network can print to it?
[07:18] <ForgeAus> Grammar and spelling are about clarity of meaning, if the meaning is already clear the purpose is already served right?...
[07:19] <ForgeAus> Haj you mean via samba? or something?
[07:19] <intelikey> hajhouse cups / cupsys is made for that very thing.   <your browser> 127.0.0.1:631     to configure
[07:19] <ForgeAus> ahh ok cups :)
[07:20] <hajhouse> intelikey: trying now
[07:20] <hajhouse> ForgeAus: yes, cups
[07:20] <ForgeAus> intellikey I didn't think you used a browser
[07:20] <ForgeAus> at least not on your partitionless disk :)
[07:20] <hajhouse> intelikey: use my root password when cups web interface asks for password and username?
[07:20] <intelikey> my brouser != gui
[07:21] <ForgeAus> oh IC
[07:21] <ForgeAus> lynx?
[07:21] <intelikey> hajhouse try it.    i'm not sure if they set that up for sudo or the cups password seperately
[07:22] <hajhouse> intelikey: root didn't work. my username did :)
[07:22] <intelikey> ForgeAus links2   or   elinks     i don't much care for lynx
[07:22] <hajhouse> intelikey: looks like this will work. trying from another machine
[07:22] <ForgeAus> well I have to admit I get a little nostalgic over Lynx but I wouldn't want to be using it for any length of time
[07:24] <Odd-rationale> What is the command to end all apt processes?
[07:24] <fdoving> !adept fix | odd-rationale
[07:24] <ubotu> odd-rationale: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[07:25] <intelikey> killall 'apt-get'
[07:26] <Odd-rationale> Thanks guys!
[07:28] <hajhouse> intelikey: should i configure the printer on the other machine (that will access it from the network) as a generic printer? or as what is actually is?
[07:28] <intelikey> what it is
[07:30] <angrychef> I tried kubuntu with the new kde 4.0 the other day and it seems like its missing tons of stuff?
[07:30] <angrychef> icons etc
[07:30] <angrychef> anyone know anything about this?
[07:30] <fdoving> it is.
[07:30] <angrychef> ok
[07:31] <hajhouse> intelikey: ok, i did that. the other machine is using xubuntu. i'm having trouble getting it to work.
[07:31] <fdoving> angrychef: try it again some time soon, there will be new versions of the packages and things will improve alot. it's a new release and the buildsystem is new to the packages, so lots of things change to the better in new package versions.
[07:31] <angrychef> I definatley was not impressed.. I thought kubuntu was just ubuntu with kde but I guess I was wrong.. and im not trying to talk crap about kubuntu or anything
[07:32] <angrychef> Oh ill def try again
[07:32] <intelikey> hajhouse i'm not well versed in cups trouble shooting   so maybe someone else can   or   /join #cups    might get a response in there too
[07:32] <angrychef> Im really not a fan of the new default menu system in kde 4
[07:33] <intelikey> !cups
[07:33] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:33] <hajhouse> intelikey: thanks. i think i need to study this more.
[07:33] <intelikey> there might be a clue-by-four ^ there also
[07:33] <fdoving> angrychef: i wasn't a fan of the new kickoff-menu-thing either, but after getting used to it it's much faster.
[07:34] <fdoving> (and that is with a laptop and trackpad/point)
[07:34] <hajhouse> intelikey: thanks i'll try that. it looks like a cups problem
[07:40] <intelikey> howto test for a mac address on a lan  ?
[07:41] <intelikey> or even better how to find the ip of said mac address ?
[07:41] <Ellement> help: in manual install of video card, i have to enter sudo aticonfig --initial. its telling me to copy config file template to /etc/XII. not sure how i go about this. thanks for any help
[07:42] <Evolution4> hey guys, I was wondering if its possible to have AWN on KDE
[07:42] <intelikey> Ellement perhaps;  sudo cp /etc/X11/* /target/etc/X11
[07:43] <hybrid_> intelikey - I usually do this utilizing my routers webtools
[07:43] <intelikey> hybrid_ no router involved here
[07:43] <Ellement> intelikey: i get "/target/etc/X11 is not a directory
[07:44] <fdoving> intelikey: you can try the 'arp' command.
[07:44] <intelikey> fdoving cool ty.
[07:44] <hybrid_> Intelikey  - what's your dhcp server?
[07:44] <intelikey> Ellement then translate the path /target/  to the system you want it on.
[07:45] <intelikey> hybrid_ haven't setup any dhcp yet.   that's why i'm investigating this ahead of tim.
[07:45] <intelikey> e
[07:45] <hybrid_> problem: anyone know how to autohide the plasma (kicker) bar in KDE4?
[07:46] <awarring> why when i try to sudo apt-get install g++, it asks me to insert the kubuntu cdrom?
[07:46] <intelikey> hybrid_ i'm it the process of trying to migrate to dhcp from all static.    and was aware that i would need some way to find the gateway box  when all the addresses change
[07:46] <fdoving> hybrid_: not possible, as far as i know.
[07:47] <Ellement> problem is i have no xorg.conf which is the file i needs to write to
[07:47] <fdoving> intelikey: you probably want to set a static dhcp for the gateways mac, then.
[07:48] <hybrid_> intelikey - not sure then, it would be way easier if you were had access to a dhcp server on the network...
[07:49] <hybrid_> fdoving - thanks, it's been buggin me for weeks, and the last time I came in here I was told to delete some constraints in the plasma config file, but that removed the bar completely :(
[07:49] <intelikey> fdoving heh  but there are more than one gateway     which means that i will have to test and see which one is up at the time.
[07:50]  * intelikey should probably leave working alone before he makes it broken
[07:51] <fdoving> intelikey: then working with separate ips would be the best i guess.
[07:52] <fdoving> you need to ping or something to get the mac into the arp-cache, so working with mac addresses directly isn't that handy.
[07:53] <intelikey> i can identify the boxs by mac address   and arp can get that     so i think it's just a matter of running a script that will do the testing and configure accordingly
[07:54] <TheAlien> hey can someone help me on using adept installer to install flash on kubuntu?
[07:54] <intelikey> sounds like i'm about to write my own dhcp setup      and i probably wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel if i understood the wheel that is in existance
[07:55] <intelikey> !flash | TheAlien
[07:55] <ubotu> TheAlien: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:55] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[07:56] <TheAlien> broken ok
[07:58] <intelikey> conspiracy theory; M$ is trying to slow down the competition generated by ubuntu, by sabataging third party propritary software.   like flash installer.....     :/
[07:58] <TheAlien> they probably are
[07:58] <TheAlien> the bastards
[07:58] <intelikey> come on guys,  it's just a joke...                                                                                                 or is it ?
[08:01] <emilsedgh> Gnash is becoming better and better, soon it will work everywhere and will be on distro's as default flash player...
[08:02] <intelikey> emilsedgh only until the "new flash" is released.   which wont be compatable with other versions...
[08:03] <se7en__> ok if someone uses conky on kde4 and finds out why it doesen't work with the own_window no setting turned on please let me know
[08:03] <emilsedgh> intelikey: gnash will catch flash i think...
[08:03] <intelikey> i hope
[08:08] <intelikey> well. time to backup, if i'm going to play with networking on a server i have to have working again in one hour...
[08:09] <dhq> i have a problem i can ping sites i can download torrents login irc and im but i can surf what could be the problem
[08:09] <val0> dhq check that your port 80 is open
[08:10] <dhq> val0: how do i check
[08:10] <val0> dhq: do you run a firewall?
[08:11] <val0> dhq firestarter or something like that?
[08:11] <dhq> no
[08:12] <ardchoille> val0: Why would port 80 need to be open just to surf the web? I have no ports open and my web surfing is fine.
[08:13] <val0> ardchoille HTTP is over port 80
[08:13] <fdoving> ardchoille: outgoing.
[08:13] <val0> ardchoille different protocols use different ports :D
[08:14] <ardchoille> val0: Right, but I have no ports open or forwarded
[08:14] <dhq> what do i do
[08:14] <dhq> ok i will restart and be back
[08:15] <ardchoille> And iirc, ubuntu/kubuntu ship with no ports open but websurfing, pop, smtp, ftp all work fine
[08:15] <val0> ardchoille you don't have a single port tcp/udp open for both incoming or outgoing connection?
[08:16] <val0> ardchoille type netstat in your konsole and go to a webpage
[08:16] <TheAlien> hello can someone help me on getting adept to work?
[08:17] <val0> ardchoille the last 5 numbers in the local address i believe are ports that you communicate over
[08:17] <ardchoille> val0: I've done extensive testing and there are no open ports on my machine.
[08:17] <fdoving> val0: netstat doesn't have anything to do with firewalling, it simply says which ports applications are using, they can be firewalled and showing in netstat at the same time.
[08:17] <val0> fdoving you could be totally right
[08:18] <ardchoille> TheAlien: Please explain the problem youa re having
[08:18] <fdoving> "doesn't have anything to do.. " might not be exactly true.. but it's close :)
[08:18] <val0> fdoving but you believe that you can have 0 open ports for both incoming and outgoing and still communicate?
[08:18] <TheAlien> my adept doesn't have any options like search
[08:19] <TheAlien> packages are greyed out and I cant select them
[08:19] <fdoving> val0: no. most people talk about "open ports" as the incoming ones.
[08:19] <val0> maybe something like nmap is a better option
[08:20] <TheAlien> does anyone know how to get adept to work?
[08:20] <val0> fdoving that's right, but if you scroll a little up you'll see that ardchoille says that he has 0 open ports both for incoming and outgoing connections
[08:20] <val0> fdoving and that's hard to believe
[08:23] <okto> can't edit the login manager module in sytemsettings-kde4
[08:23] <Agent_bob> wouldn't it save a lot of hd space if we all did   sudo rm -r /usr/share/icons
[08:23] <okto> "Administrator mode" is not is not available
[08:23] <ardchoille> okto: support for kde4 is in #kubuntu-kde4
[08:23] <jason__> hey all
[08:24] <jason__> im just checking that i can get irc to work
[08:24] <Agent_bob> you did.  :)
[08:25] <ibou> hi
[08:25] <Ashex> Whenver I plug in a removable drive, I get two prompts
[08:25] <Ashex> The first one, when I click it, will mount the drive as root
[08:25] <Ashex> the second one will mount is as a regular user
[08:25] <jason__> im trying to run syslinux anyone know anything about it, or point me in the direction of a how to website
[08:25] <Ashex> Anyone else experiencing this? And is there any way to make it stop other then disabling it?
[08:26] <ibou> i'm trying to convert wma to wav with soundkonverter but it doesn't work. Do i need a wav encoder ? (i already have a wma decoder)
[08:29] <okto> ardchoille: i tried..no body answers
[08:29] <Ashex> ibou, install wavpack
[08:30] <Ashex> Okay, here's a fun little update to the problem
[08:30] <Ashex> The first prompt not only mounts as root
[08:30] <ardchoille> okto: Well, keep trying, that's the official support avenue for kde4
[08:30] <Ashex> but load delphin as root, no password prompt
[08:30] <ibou> Ashex: thanks
[08:31] <Agent_bob> sudo -k and try it Ashex
[08:31] <Agent_bob> sorry   -K
[08:31] <Ashex> Agent_bob, it does this on its own
[08:31] <fdoving> Ashex: 'sudo killall -u root -- kded'
[08:32] <Agent_bob> Ashex sudo -K   will remove the users "timestamp"  and should then require the password before any root action is taken.
[08:33] <Ashex> Agent_bob, I know about the timeout, I haven't run anything with sudo for a good couple hours
[08:33] <Ashex> lemme test it real quick
[08:33] <Agent_bob> i only asked you to test that to prove whether it was using sudo or a reall security hole.
[08:33] <Ashex> gotcha
[08:33] <fdoving> Ashex: so, the command i gave you will kill the kded daemon which again is loading the mediamanager, it is all running as background processes because you probably executed konqueror or something as root.
[08:34] <fdoving> Ashex: so what you see if you run 'ps aux|grep kded' is multiple kded instances, some running as root. those will need to go away.
[08:34] <Ashex> gotcha
[08:35] <Ashex> I did see one instance "kded [kdeinit] --new-startup" when I did a grep for kded
[08:35] <fdoving> yeah, you can actually use 'sudo dcop kded kded quit', nicer than killall.
[08:35] <khaije1> whats the kde dev channel please?
[08:35] <fdoving> maybe you need a 'sudo -H dcop kded kded quit'
[08:35] <fdoving> khaije1: #kde-devel
[08:36] <Ashex> hmm
[08:36] <Ashex> looks like I'm only getting one prompt now
[08:36] <khaije1> thx fdoving :-[
[08:37] <Ashex> I'll have to reboot to confirm that's what it was. This has been happening for a week or so with reboots
[08:37] <Ellement> question: had to do manual install of ati driver. when i did sudo shutdown -r now. kubuntu isnt startting instead says Kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot... ubuntu 7.10 linux tty1  linux login ....what do i do???????
[08:37] <fdoving> Ashex: oh, that sounds weird, roots kded should not be spawned after reboots.
[08:37] <Ashex> If it reoccurs I'll jump back in here
[08:37] <Ashex> yeah, it's a bit fishy
[08:37] <fdoving> hang on.
[08:38] <Ashex> Ellement, looks like the driver didn't install properly, you'll need to reconfigure xserver-xorg to load with the default drivers
[08:38] <Ashex> Ellement, login to the terminal and run "sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:39] <Ashex> I need to remember the switch that only has you configure the driver :/
[08:39] <Agent_bob> -phigh
[08:39] <fdoving> Ashex: you can disable the kded services, for root. 'kdesu systemsettings' -> advanced [tab] -> service manager -> untick the boxes on the left in the 'use' column.
[08:39] <fdoving> Ashex: you can safely disable all for root.
[08:40] <Agent_bob> Ashex p for priority     high and low
[08:40] <fdoving> Ashex: if you're not rebooting you can also hit the 'stop' button for each of them.
[08:40] <fdoving> Ashex: but if you're rebooting you don't need to do that.
[08:41] <Ellement> ashex: says dpkg:unknown option --reconfigure
[08:41] <fdoving> Ellement: it's a separate command 'dpkg-reconfigure'
[08:41] <Agent_bob> Ellement it's   dpkg-reconfigure -p<high|low> xserver-xorg
[08:41] <Ellement> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:41] <Ellement> yup thanks
[08:42] <Ashex> fdoving, hmm, I'll have to poke at it a little, I kinda like the timeout for running sudo and kdesu
[08:42] <Ellement> ashex: am i going to have to autodected video hardware?
[08:42] <Ellement>  or select xserver and driver myself?
[08:42] <okto> the edit tab in amarok is not refreshing
[08:42] <Ashex> Ellement, accept the defaults for everything, when you get to the driver, select ati
[08:42] <okto> if you click it it hangs and artwork disappear
[08:42] <Agent_bob> Ellement depends on the -p
[08:43]  * Ashex thinks that's the default one, otherwise just use vesa
[08:43] <Ellement> so select yes to autodetec?
[08:43] <Ashex> Ellement, yeah
[08:43] <Ashex> I really need to come back in here and help people. I've gotten rusty
[08:43] <Ashex> can't even tell someone how to configure xserver-xorg :/
[08:44] <Ellement> ashex: should i pick xserver driver as fglrx, intel or ati? i currently have my two lcds plugged into ati but also have intel onbaord
[08:44] <Agent_bob> it only takes about one release to loooose your tough
[08:44] <Ashex> Ellement, ati
[08:44] <Ashex> Heh
[08:45] <Ashex> I'm on the kubuntu-devel list though, so I read up on what's going on with that at least :/
[08:45] <Ellement> ashex: weird, i picked ati and now it says "identifier for your video card: intel corp 82865G integreated graphics controller
[08:46] <Ashex> Ellement, that's rather odd. It may have just detected the onboard video adapter
[08:46] <Ellement> even tho nothings plugged into it
[08:47] <Ellement> bugger
[08:47] <Ashex> (stop me if I'm wrong) It shouldn't do anything bad, in the xorg.conf it'll just label the device as that. Otherwise it will fill in the rest of the relevant info according to the detected attached monitor
[08:48] <Ellement> ashex: ok
[08:50] <Ashex> Ellement, if you used the ati binary installer to setup the xorg.conf, it should have created a backup
[08:51] <Ashex> so, if you cd to /etc/X11
[08:51] <Ashex> there should be multiple xorg.conf files, one would probably be called something like xorg.conf.20071018222255
[08:51] <Ashex> the number being the date and time it was created
[08:52] <Ashex> if this doesn't work, look for the oldest one or the one around the time you tried installing the ati driver and do a sudo cp xorg.conf.20071018222255 xorg.conf
[08:52] <Malawar> does Kubuntu use Dolphin with KDE?
[08:52] <Ashex> Malawar, gutsy does
[08:52] <Malawar> yay
[08:52] <Malawar> more points for kubuntu.
[08:53] <Agent_bob> i wonder how serious it is when packages can't be authenticated ?
[08:54] <Malawar> main packages or packages out of a 3rd party repository?
[08:54] <Malawar> because one of those would probably be pretty serious.
[08:54] <Agent_bob> main
[08:54] <Ashex> if it's 3rd party, it means you need to grab the gpg key for it and auth it
[08:54] <Ashex> what package is it?
[08:55] <Agent_bob> none of mine can be
[08:55] <Ashex> I personally don't like Dolphin that much
[08:55] <Ashex> The two sidebars annoys the crap out of me
[08:55] <Agent_bob> i'm using a local package cache and symlinks in /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:56] <Agent_bob> which by the way.  you can't use the rm command to remove in a normal fasion
[08:56] <Agent_bob> -su: /bin/rm: Argument list too long
[08:56] <Malawar> man, i hate it when that happens :P
[08:57] <Agent_bob> heh. yeah.
[08:57] <Malawar> is that a limitation on rm or your shell, i wonder?
[08:57] <Agent_bob> rm
[08:57] <fdoving> you can probably do a for loop.
[08:57] <fdoving> for i in *.deb;do rm $i;done
[08:58] <Malawar> or use xargs and ls
[08:58] <Agent_bob> fdoving yeah  that works fine.   just can't use venella rm
[08:58] <Agent_bob> and to prove that it's the rm and not the shell  "echo /var/cache/apt/archives/* "   works
[09:00] <Ashex> Anyone remember what the road map was for dolphin?
[09:00] <earl_> Anyone know a lot about setting up a webcam? please don't send me to the wiki page because i've already looked at it
[09:01] <Ashex> earl_, you check out the spcx drivers?
[09:01] <earl_> i dont know how to do that
[09:01] <earl_> according to the logitech website, my camera is supported using the "quickcam" driver
[09:02] <earl_> 046d:08f5 Logitech, Inc.
[09:02] <earl_> lsusb reports that
[09:03] <Ashex> earl_, http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/
[09:04] <earl_> for the record
[09:04] <earl_> i tried using the easycam utility
[09:04] <earl_> it reported that everything worked correctly, even though nothing worked correctly
[09:04] <Ashex> I usually test with the camstreams app
[09:05] <earl_> also it doesnt seem like my USB ID is listed on the page you linked me
[09:08] <earl_> i'll try this though
[09:09] <earl_> it says the following is a requirement
[09:09] <earl_> Kernel source for the kernel you are running. The symbolic link /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build should point to the source directory.
[09:09] <earl_> what does that mean?
[09:12] <J-MG> hell
[09:12] <J-MG> o
[09:12] <Ashex> earl, install the kernel headers
[09:12] <J-MG> i have a pretty simple question: how do i restart a process?
[09:13] <earl_> before i try that what do you think of this: http://home.mag.cx/messenger/
[09:13] <earl_> that actually lists my camera's usb ID, and lists it by name...
[09:13] <Ashex> give that one a shot
[09:14] <Ashex> I just did a search and pointed to the first relevant result
[09:14] <Ashex> install linux-headers-generic
[09:14] <earl_> give the one i found a shot, you mean?
[09:14] <noaXess> what happend is i stop avahi-deamon?
[09:15] <J-MG> help: how to restart a process?
[09:15] <earl_> okay the one i found works
[09:15] <earl_> sweet.
[09:16] <intelikey> it's a little odd to me that my root login will accept any login name, and still sets up root user...
[09:16] <intelikey> the only thing it wont accept is a blank name
[09:17] <jpa> hi all
[09:18] <jpa> where could I find information about ATI Radeon mobility X1200 support in Kubuntu ?
[09:18] <intelikey> !nv | jpa
[09:18] <ubotu> jpa: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:19] <jpa> thx but "System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager in Ubuntu ." will be hard, X doesnt start
[09:20] <Ellement> ashex: thanks for the help b4, got back into kubuntu.
[09:20] <ibou> how can easytag handle wav format ?
[09:21] <Ashex> Ellement, no problem
[09:21] <Ashex> ibou, I don't think wav supports tagging
[09:21] <intelikey> jpa maybe change /etc/X11/xorg.conf line ***Driver          "ati"***      to read  ***Driver          "vesa"***     and   startx
[09:22] <Ellement> ashex: ati catylist controller is installed but when i open it it says no driver. so am going to have to do manual ati driver setup again. :( i wish restricted drivers would work
[09:22] <Ashex> Ellement, yeah, the restricted drivers broke a few times for me when I did it
[09:22] <ibou> Ashex: thanks
[09:23] <Ashex> Ellement, install the restricted-modules
[09:23] <Ashex> Ellement, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[09:23] <ibou> if i encode in ogg with 100 in quality do i lose quality from audio cd ?
[09:24] <intelikey> oh no.  i'm now running an area fifty one kernel
[09:24] <Ellement> ok ahsex
[09:25] <Ashex> ibou, yes
[09:25] <Ashex> ibou, encode in flac
[09:25] <Ashex> lossless with tagging
[09:26] <ibou> Ashex: sweet
[09:26] <ibou> Ashex: thanks
[09:26] <Ashex> ibou, no problem
[09:26] <Ellement> ashex: installed restricted-modules but restricted drives still dont come up
[09:27] <Ashex> hmm
[09:27] <Ashex> well, restricted-modules are required when running ati/nvidia driver, so that may have been what was causing X to break
[09:28] <pinipOn> When somebody has the time, and if feels like, i have some questions.
[09:28] <ibou> i use an inspiron 1520 from dell and i can't suspend/hibernate. Is there a way to fix it ?
[09:29] <Ellement> i wish someone could take control of pc for me, i suck at this
[09:29] <pinipOn> ibou> What graphic card do you have?
[09:33] <jpa> intelikey: nice tip ;) I'll try it
[09:33] <ibou> pinipOn: geforce 8600  GT
[09:34] <ibou> pinipOn: i was looking for it
[09:34] <ibou> pinipOn: i have a laptop
[09:34] <pinipOn> ibou: what exactly happens when you request the suspend?
[09:35] <ibou> pinipOn: the screen become black but the pc doesnt shut down
[09:37] <ibou> pinipOn: i have an integrated webcam...
[09:37] <pinipOn> http://boulderjams.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/ubuntu-dell-suspend-fix/
[09:37] <pinipOn> Its the graphic card
[09:37] <khaije1> has anyone here built the kmymoney cvs head, i have a question about the chart support...
[09:38] <tzd> i need help with formatting an attached usb-drive in gutsy please?
[09:42] <ibou> where to find acpii-support ?
[09:43] <intelikey> tzd qt/g/parted
[09:44] <tzd> intelikey: i would like to do it via the command "fdformat" since I need to do it for my course. Is that possible in kubuntu?
[09:44] <intelikey> tzd mkfs.<fstype> /dev/<device_node>
[09:45] <intelikey> device node is probably something like   sda    sdb1   or something along that line.
[09:45] <tzd> intelikey: ah so it's a completely different command? fstype is filesystem such as vfat?
[09:46] <intelikey> !tab | tzd
[09:46] <ubotu> tzd: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[09:46] <pinipOn> xD
[09:46] <intelikey> tzd yes.  use the tab key for the list of installed formats
[09:46] <tzd> intelikey: right, thanks for your help:) I'll give it a try immediately!
[09:47] <intelikey> tzd two common mistakes.   umount it first   and  format as root.
[09:47] <tzd> intelikey: exellent tip. I was just about to try it as user ;P
[09:48] <intelikey> example:   sudo umount /dev/sdt4 ;sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdt4
[09:49] <ibou> pinipOn: i try the fix...
[09:52] <tzd> intelikey: worked like a charm! Thanks a lot :) This command formats the drive and installs a new fs in one go right? There's no other command to just format the drive?
[09:52] <intelikey> makes a new file system on the device
[09:53] <intelikey> if you want disk intergerty testing you can add   -c
[09:53] <tzd> intelikey: ok, thanks once again!
[09:54] <intelikey> tzd rule of thumb.   any new command you learn   first have a look at it's man page to see what it does and how.    man mkfs.vfat
[09:54] <intelikey> i.e.   man man
[09:55] <tzd> ah yeah, i know of the man pages... i just need to get into the whole proceduare of checking them :/ I tend to go to the shorter --help cmd
[09:56] <gladier> hey guys - i need a hand getting my scsi controller (aic7xxx for a 19160 adaptec) to run sync  opposed to async
[09:56] <intelikey> tzd whild --help may give a good list of switches,   the descriptive paragraph in the man page is there for a purpose
[09:56] <Ashex> what's a quick and dirty way to to output the results of fine to a image convert app?
[09:57] <Ashex> I want to convert all the folder.jpg to folder.png so that it will replace the folder icons
[09:57] <Ashex> s/fine/find
[09:58] <intelikey> Ashex use finds -exec switch
[09:58] <tzd> intelikey: ok, will be a more frrequent user of the manuals from now on:) Just to get this straight with the "fdformat" command... This command does not work in (k)ubuntu?
[09:58] <Ashex> oh yeah...
[09:58] <Ellement> in manual ati driver tut is says Uninstall previous fglrx: Using Synaptic, completely remove any packages containing "fglrx" in their name.  how do i do this?
[09:58] <Ashex> I keep forgetting it has that
[09:59] <intelikey> tzd fdformat should work in any linux it's installed in
[09:59] <intelikey> tzd point is that it is probably a script that calls mkfs anyway
[10:01] <tzd> intelikey: oh alright! I just thought it was strange that fdformat wouldn't work for me when mkfs worked
[10:01] <Ashex> Ellement, search for fglrx and select and remove the ones found
[10:01] <ibou> hi
[10:02] <intelikey> tzd "fd"format is made for "fd" devices... if you have the binary "fdformat"   that might be why it didn't work on an sd device
[10:03]  * intelikey doesn't know of any new computers that have fd devices anymore
[10:04] <tzd> intelikey: I'm not following you I'm afraid. What do you mean by "binary fdformat" please? Is it just because i use fat instead of ext3 on my usb drive that it wont work?
[10:04] <Ellement> thsnkd ashex
[10:04] <intelikey> tzd as opposed to a script fdformat
[10:05] <ardchoille> /disconnect:/quit
[10:05] <ardchoille> oops, sorry
[10:05] <intelikey> tzd not all the files in /usr/bin are binary files  some are symbolic links and some are scripts
[10:06] <intelikey> or /bin or */sbin  for that matter
[10:07] <Ashex> well, I'm out
[10:07] <Ashex> 2am and I have class at 9:30
[10:07] <intelikey> for example       for Q in /bin/z* ;do file $Q ;done
[10:08] <intelikey> look at how many scripts that finds.   and one could (as root of course) edit any one of those with any test editor
[10:12] <tzd> intelikey: ah okey, i'm slowly getting it :) Thanks! There's just one thing that i don't get... what is the difference between a "fd" and a "sd" device? Or perhaps more importantly: what is a "fd" device?
[10:12] <earl_> i have a usb microphone. how can i use it in kubuntu?
[10:16] <altereog> java won't run with frickelfox
[10:16] <altereog> crap
[10:18] <intelikey> tzd fd is the linux shorthand for floppy disk    the old internal bus that all your 'fd' devices hooked into is the   fd device    ls /dev/fd*     the sd device is the scsi bus   which the kernel is using for usb interfaces also
[10:18] <intelikey> ls /dev/ds*
[10:19] <intelikey> tzd every peace of hardware in the system is a device in /dev/ <<< the device dirrectory
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[10:19] <tzd> intelikey: aah yeah floppys... completely forgot about those. Now everything is shining clear over here! Thanks a bunch for your time and help, finally get it :)
[10:19] <intelikey> tzd welcome.
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> tzd, floppys kick ass :)
[10:19] <tzd> ActionParsnip: hehe yeeeah, old school! ^^
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> tzd, I've got a tonne of tools on floppys. Most of which are now on the ultimate boot cd
[10:20] <tzd> ActionParsnip: hehe sweet :)
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> tzd: ever install Win95 from floppy :(
[10:21]  * intelikey wants a new command inturpretor for grub.     grub is an os that loads other os's
[10:22] <intelikey> ActionParsnip i'v installed both win95 and linux from floppies
[10:22] <tzd> the complete OS:es from floppy??
[10:22] <intelikey> yes
[10:22] <tzd> intelikey: that's impressive :) How long did that take? ;)
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, what distro came on floppys?
[10:23] <intelikey> win95-A takes 17 disks
[10:23] <intelikey> ActionParsnip slackware can still be installed from floppies
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, how many is it?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, or are you talking a www install?
[10:24] <intelikey> tzd not too long.  hour maybe hour and an half
[10:24] <tzd> intelikey: that's not bad actually... i was expecting at least 3-4 hours
[10:25] <intelikey> ActionParsnip no full floppy install.   and i dont recall the number   seems like i used 14  on slakware 5.0  the non-release release
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, nice. mind you, www back in the day with 28800 baud modem with the flakiest connection ever
[10:26] <intelikey> there are still linux distro's around on one and two floppy disks.   they are minimalest tho
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, true. CLI only ones
[10:27]  * intelikey uses cli only
[10:27] <intelikey> havent started xorg in days
[10:27]  * ActionParsnip uses console more than gui
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, nice
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, not a movie watcher on your system. don't you need x for web browsing?
[10:29] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: lynx, links, elinks, w3c ;)
[10:29] <intelikey> "GUI isn't that the vidio game from the nineties?"
[10:29] <intelikey> ActionParsnip i also watch vidios in the console    vlc + svgalibs
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille, what about youtube / image viewing etc
[10:31] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: No idea
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, really. thats pretty cool :)
[10:31] <intelikey> ActionParsnip links2 -g + svgalibs   full graphic browsing in the console
[10:32] <intelikey> well may be an over statement to say "full graphics" no flash support.   but it does the pictures from png/jpg just fine.
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, if its possible why bother with x at all! thats awesome
[10:33] <intelikey> ActionParsnip because the avarage ubuntu user wants everything to be eyecandy and just work     or so canonical seems to think.
[10:34] <intelikey> i use ubuntu distro because they offer shipit, and i'm on dialup and im cheep.
[10:34] <intelikey> i use linux becaues it's free as in speach.   FOSS !
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, do does links2 -g use x libraries?
[10:34] <alteregolio> how can i reenable my mouse
[10:35] <alteregolio> after a hardy update i can't move my mouse
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, I use it so I cant get viri
[10:35] <alteregolio> whats wrong
[10:35] <alteregolio> is there a modprobe command to reactivate mosues
[10:35] <intelikey> ActionParsnip it can use either svgalibs or kernel frame buffering    or of course the xorg if you use it within x
[10:35] <Lynoure> alteregolio: hardy stuff is still on #ubuntu+1 (and maybe #kubuntu+1)
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, is it impossible to get flash support in links2 -g ?
[10:36] <intelikey> alteregolio what happened to the mouse ?     and there is a module that might help   psmouse  if it's ps2
[10:37] <intelikey> ActionParsnip i don't know.  i think just about as highly of flash as i do of windows.   don't ask.
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, but so much content is flash based :(
[10:38] <intelikey> i haven't missed it.
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, fair point
[10:39] <intelikey> so many games all run in windows.  but i haven't missed them either.
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, I'm not a gamer either (well maybe some emulators)
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, can zsnes be ran at CLI only??
[10:40] <intelikey> i would think so.  but i would have to do some testing to confirm that.
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, I will investigate :)
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, just getting a virtualbox for kubuntu at work cos I have large stretches where i do nothing
[10:43] <intelikey> sounds like a boring job
[10:43] <intelikey> :)
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, i keep citrix servers and virtual servers running
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> its a bit boring but it pays for the beer
[10:45] <intelikey> :)
[10:45] <intelikey> des quatro
[10:48]  * ActionParsnip is confused
[10:48] <jpatrick> !ot
[10:48] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> well that killed the room
[10:51] <Jucato> and again, good :)
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> why good
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> ??
[10:52] <ardchoille> !guidelines
[10:52] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:53] <intelikey> the room is dead.    long live the room!        living room ?
[10:54] <Riskbreaker> so about how long before GK
[10:54] <Riskbreaker> err
[10:54] <Riskbreaker> before GTK apps dont look like hell in KDE4
[10:55] <intelikey> 6 years three months two days and an houre
[10:55] <Riskbreaker> i'll set my alarm clock
[10:55] <intelikey> :)
[10:55] <Jucato> Riskbreaker: when the author of the gtk-qt-engine finishes creating an engine for qt4
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, sounds like donnie darko :D
[10:55] <ardchoille> Riskbreaker: I installed these packages and it seemed to help quite a lot with that issue: gtk-engines-qtpixmap gtk2-engines-qtpixmap gtk2-engines
[10:56] <intelikey> ActionParsnip sorry, i don't know him.
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, no, the film
[10:57] <pyrotix> graargh. does anyone know how to move a bunch of cells in oo.org calc to a table in writer? Aid an HS student pulling an all-nighter trying (possibly vainly) to finish an assignment in time
[10:57] <pyrotix> dragging/pasting puts the stuff in its own object
[10:57] <Riskbreaker> let's give that a shot then
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> pyrotix, try pasting to kate/kwrite. It might sort it out :D
[10:58] <Riskbreaker> no dice, ardchoille, still look ugly
[10:58] <ardchoille> Riskbreaker: Also, tweak the GTK Styles setting in systemsettings > Appearance > GTK Styles and Fonts
[10:58] <Riskbreaker> k
[10:59] <ardchoille> Riskbreaker: "Use my KDE style in GTK applications"
[10:59] <merino> #palencia
[10:59] <Riskbreaker> ardchoille: i know what you're talking about in KDE3, but its not showing up in KDE4
[11:00] <Riskbreaker> there's no GTK Styles/fonts tab
[11:00] <ardchoille> Riskbreaker: You're in the wrong channel for kde4 support, join #kubuntu-kde4
[11:00] <Riskbreaker> my bad
[11:00] <intelikey> another broken package http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d4eefe2f1  note that openoffice.org-l10n-en-us is depending on....  and it should have been removed along with xorg and all the other xorg related stuff
[11:01] <intelikey> i wonder why things that depend on xorg don't depend on xorg so that when xorg leaves they will be pulled too   ?
[11:03] <pyrotix> ActionParsnip: puts it into plaintext. Not exactly what I wanted but ty, good enough
[11:03] <Oleander> question: want to install kubuntu again but i wanna get a good video card b4 i do it cuz last time i had sooo much trouble. whatsa good hassle free video card good for beryl and compiz
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> pyrotix, cool man
[11:04] <Riskbreaker> Oleander: as far as i know the best way to go is actually intel integrated
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Oleander, get a mid range geforce then :)
[11:04] <intelikey> i may disapear   i just issued the order to remove perl* from this system.    perl-base is an essential package    'Yes, do as I say!' i said....  :)
[11:04] <ardchoille> Oleander: Check out this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:04] <Oleander> thanks
[11:05] <ardchoille> Oleander: I usually consult then before shopping for hw
[11:05] <Oleander> yeh
[11:07] <Oleander> ardchoille: i currently have ati 9200 pro RV280
[11:08] <jussi01> Oleander: that ati card should work fine with compiz as it uses the open source drivers
[11:08] <ardchoille> Oleander: That card is listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti
[11:08]  * jussi01 had the 9250 earlier
[11:08] <Oleander> yeh i know but i couldnt for the life of me install the drivers on kubuntu gutsy 7.10
[11:08]  * ActionParsnip has integrated nvidia 6250 :)
[11:08] <Riskbreaker> yeah
[11:08] <Riskbreaker> thats why you had a problem
[11:09] <jussi01> Oleander: it installs them automatically
[11:09] <Riskbreaker> right
[11:09] <Riskbreaker> with that card you should have compiz out of the box
[11:09] <ardchoille> Riskbreaker: Not in kubuntu
[11:10] <Oleander> jussi01: i have onbaord graphics card also and when i did install i had to do it on onbaord. so when i went into kubuntu i couldnt disable it and get my two screens working primary/seconddary at all
[11:10] <Riskbreaker> well shouldnt it be as simple as like apt-get install compiz?
[11:10] <ardchoille> !compiz
[11:10] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:10] <Oleander> its good to know my ati installs auto but i couldnt do dual screens without my res going to the crap heap
[11:11] <jussi01> !dualhead | Oleander
[11:11] <ubotu> Oleander: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[11:13] <Oleander> jussi01:  howcome when entered fglrxinfo my ati driver didnt come up?
[11:13] <jussi01> Oleander: that card doesnt use fglrx
[11:14] <Oleander> oh god i wish u were online earlier :P ive been going crazy with this.
[11:14] <jussi01> Oleander: iirc it uses the "radeon" or "ati" driver
[11:15] <Oleander> iirc?
[11:15] <jussi01> if i remember correctly
[11:15] <Oleander> ah
[11:16] <Oleander> so i dont need to install ati catalyst controller then or any drivers it wil all be automatic?
[11:16] <jussi01> Oleander: it should just all be installed out of the box when you install kubunut
[11:16] <Oleander> ok
[11:16] <ashish> LAN notifier on taskbar not working??? Can Anybody help
[11:17] <Oleander> whats werid is that in the monitor settings where it lists ur hw, its says ati raedon (flgrx)
[11:18] <jussi01> Oleander: what happens when you type: glxgears in the terminal?
[11:18] <Oleander> i'm on win atm so cant check
[11:19] <tzd> how do i mount an external usb flash memory in konsole please? I've tried with "mount -t vfat /dev/sde1 /media/sde1" and "mount -t vfat /dev/sde1 /media/sde1" but none of them works...
[11:19] <Oleander> ill boot brb
[11:21] <Agent_bob> tzd is it partitioned ?  it may just be sde   the number being the partition number.     cat /proc/partitions   might help.
[11:22] <Agent_bob> tzd usually the mount error code will help debug why it didn't work.  although it can be misleading  i.e. "you must supply a file system type"  usually means that you selected the wrong device node.
[11:24] <tzd> Agent_bob: should be. Earlier today i got some help to format it via: mkfs.vfat /dev/sde1 . The error code i received was that the mount point didn't exist. For example: mount -t vfat /dev/sde1 /media/sdf2 where /media/sdf2 didn't exist
[11:25] <tzd> Agent_bob:  when using the : cat /proc/partitions command i can see this:  8    65    3992135 sde1 so i guess im using the partition number?
[11:25] <Agent_bob> tzd that was me.   (intelikey)    usb devices change addressing when you unplug/replug them.   find the device and you should be able to    sudo mount /dev/sd?1 /mnt        with no args.
[11:26] <Agent_bob> tzd ok should be sde1
[11:26] <ashish_>  /msg nickserv link <ashzoomerintrack> <12345678>
[11:28] <Agent_bob> tzd in anticipation,  vfat has no permissions bits  so mount uses a psyudo permissions bit for the entire mount.   man mount  /FILESYSTEM SPECIFIC MOUNT OPTIONS     but in short   as root    mount /dev/sde1 /mnt -o dmask=000,fmask=111     will probably be to your liking
[11:28] <tzd> Agent_bob: ah got it once again. Thank You :) I got the wrong destination dir. when using your /mnt everything worked!
[11:29] <Agent_bob> tzd not uncommon at all.    welcome.
[11:30] <Agent_bob> tzd you can change the mounted psyudo permission with this     sudo mount -o remount,dmask=000,fmask=111,rw /mnt
[11:31] <tzd> Agent_bob: this might be a long shot but perhaps you know why i can't copy/move files within my NTFS hdd when trying with the built in command in Amarok (Move files to collection...)?
[11:32] <Agent_bob> !ntfs | tzd
[11:32] <ubotu> tzd: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[11:32] <Agent_bob> !ntfs-3g | tzd
[11:32] <ubotu> tzd: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:32] <tzd> Agent_bob: the last bit is still a bit too advanced for me ;) I think the /mnt cmd will do for now at least :)
[11:33] <Agent_bob> tzd in short    the permission is wrong.    the more precise answer is above  ^
[11:33] <tzd> Agent_bob: but hmm i can create folders etc. on my ntfs drive when i go there via dolphin?
[11:36] <Agent_bob> tzd understand groups ?
[11:37] <tzd> Agent_bob: not really, just had a quick look at access rights 2 nights ago
[11:38] <tzd> Agent_bob: according to my NTFS drive owner and groups has both read and write rights
[11:38] <tzd> Agent_bob: the only thing i can think of is that Amarok is classified as "Other" which doesnt have any rights to my ntfs drive?
[11:39] <stefan__> when there is an old ssh session running how can I kill the old session?
[11:41] <Agent_bob> permissions are devided into three major qualifications,   one  owner       two group      three  world(or everybody else)       if you own an inode the owner permissions apply,  if you do not own but are a member of the group  then the group perms apply   if neither of the preceeding apply then the world perms apply     the permissions are   rwx   as an octet, or three digit binary mark   and there are three(well actually f
[11:42] <Agent_bob> for each inode     except on an fs that doesn't support them  like ntfs and vfat
[11:42] <Agent_bob> ls -l inode_name_here   will list them.
[11:42] <mcquaid> i normally have the screensaver disabled, however once i lock my screen and unlock it the monitor powers down after about 10 minutes
[11:42] <mcquaid> how do i disable that once i unlock the screen?
[11:43] <mcquaid> i checked the screensaver and it's off
[11:43] <seezer> stefan__: look for the correct session (i do that via `w`). then `ps aux | grep pts\/2 | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill` for the session at pts/2
[11:43] <mcquaid> and power mgmt appears to be off as well
[11:43] <Agent_bob> -rwxrwxrwx 1 greg root 52 Jan 17 04:44 testing  <<< example.   all permissions on that inode are set 1 so it is owner read write execute   group read write execute   other read write execute
[11:44] <Agent_bob> tzd are you following so far ?
[11:44] <tzd> Agent_bob: sorry missed that you wrote... will have a look straight away :) Thanks
[11:44] <stefan__> seezer: ok I will try it, I have to go to antother administration machine, moment
[11:45] <mcquaid> yes i just verified power mgmt and screen saver is off, so what's powering down my monitor?
[11:45] <Agent_bob> tzd ok. i'll stop trying to explain and just stick to answering questions.   ;/
[11:45] <seezer> stefan__: better just do `ps aux | grep pts\/2` and kill by hand if you're unsure
[11:46] <Agent_bob> mcquaid acpi ?   bios settings ?
[11:46] <seezer> stefan__: i'm out for some foot for a few minutes
[11:46] <ibou_> i have crypted wma in my mit ?usic. How to decrypt
[11:46] <mcquaid> well, prior to locking the screen the monitor never powers down so it's definitely not a bios setting
[11:46] <seezer> heh. s,foot,food,
[11:46] <ibou_> i have crypted wma in my music. How to decrypt it ?
[11:46] <mcquaid> it's something that locking the screen triggers
[11:47] <Agent_bob> !restricted
[11:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:48] <tzd> Agent_bob:  yes I get it :) It's my fault not being clear with my knowledge... i have just started a Linux course and recently i read about the various access rights but I'm not sure how to create groups and i don't get it why i can create folders and files on my ntfs hdd with my current user when the same user cant copy/move files within Amarok with that built in command?
[11:51] <Oleander> jussi01: so on my video card ati 9200 it wont automatically go dual screen ill have to configure with 3rd party sw?
[11:51] <Agent_bob> tzd "i don't get it why i can..."  check the groups permissions bit   the file manager is using your user group i'm sure  but the amarok may not be.     that would be my guess on that.
[11:52] <Agent_bob> tzd thus changing the dmask/fmask for the fs will allow everything to access inodes on the device
[11:52] <Agent_bob> it's all in the mount opetions.
[11:53] <tzd> Agent_bob:  yes that's perhaps what i'm guessing as well... could amarok be included as the 3rd access type (Other)? If that's the case then I'll just have to change the option from "Prohibited" to "Allow read and write" right?
[11:55] <Agent_bob> tzd no i don't think so. but, you can change the perms tho.   or you could change the owner to you    either way you gain full access
[11:56] <Agent_bob> tzd issue     mount       no arguments at all.   and the line that mentions the fs in question paste in here    (only one line plese)
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> just found this http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yJn4eUpWnGw&feature=related
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> hahahaha
[11:59] <tzd> Agent_bob: /dev/sdb5 on /media/sdb5 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[12:00] <Oleander> ActionParsnip: which is better for first time kubuntu user, beryl or compiz?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Oleander, compiz imho
[12:00] <Oleander> ok cool thanks
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Oleander, tbh both are good :)
[12:01] <Agent_bob> hmm ,default_permissions,   there's your problem.   while i'm not well versed on fuse mounts  i think the umask=000   will work
[12:01] <Oleander> ActionParsnip: they both pretty much do the same thing then?
[12:01] <Agent_bob> tzd test this    sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /dev/sdb5 /media/sdb5
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Oleander, kinda yeah. do some googling ;)
[12:02] <Oleander> okies :)
[12:03] <Agent_bob> tzd did it return any error ?
[12:04] <tzd> Agent_bob:  no errors, just about to see if it helped (in amarok now)
[12:04] <Agent_bob> k
[12:04] <Agent_bob> i'll wait
[12:05] <Agent_bob> i'm about to reboot and see what all i broke by removing python* perl*  from this system.
[12:06] <ardchoille> In konqueror, how do I setup a new user agent definition?
[12:06] <tzd> Agent_bob: it didn't work I'm afraid. Got the same error within Amarok when trying
[12:07] <ibou__> see you later
[12:07] <tzd> Agent_bob: hmm let me try one thing.... I think I'm the issue here :(
[12:07] <Agent_bob> tzd ummm ok that must be an amarok issue   and seeing that i don't use it.  i'll have to defer you to ardchoille  or Jucato
[12:07] <jussi01> Oleander: sorry, just got back
[12:07] <ardchoille> I've never used amarok, xmms here :)
[12:08] <Agent_bob> or jussi01   ^
[12:08] <jussi01> Oleander: just reading back, compiz has merged with beryl - see !compiz
[12:09] <trixon> Does anyone here use citrix client in kubuntu?
[12:11] <intelikey> well there is no ssh without perl    maybe i could build an ssh without perl ???
[12:11] <Oleander> jussi01: reinstalled kubuntu while u were away so had clean slate to work off
[12:11] <Greenery> is there traceroute command line?
[12:11] <intelikey> or hack a working ssh into this perl-less system...
[12:12] <intelikey> Greenery tracepath
[12:12] <Greenery> intelikey: tracepath <ip address> ?
[12:12] <jussi01> Oleander: cool
[12:12] <Oleander> just rebooting now
[12:12] <intelikey> Greenery actually there is also traceroute if you install it.  but yes tracepath works well
[12:12] <jussi01> Oleander: so fire away with those questions ... :)
[12:12] <Greenery> ok thanks
[12:13] <Bikerpeter> Hello
[12:14] <Bikerpeter> I would like to ask 1 question (German or English?)
[12:14] <Jucato> English in here, German in #kubuntu-de
[12:14] <Bikerpeter> I installed KDE 4 with Kubuntu 7.10
[12:14] <Jucato> oh I forgot to add #kubuntu-kde4 for KDE 4 questions :)
[12:15]  * Jucato tries to remember that....
[12:15] <Bikerpeter> thanks for this info I will join that channel     have a good time
[12:15] <Oleander> jussi01: werid i type in my pw to get admin when i'm in monitor settings and nothing happens.
[12:15] <Bikerpeter> quit
[12:20] <tzd> intelikey: nothing worked so i guess it's amarok, although the permissions doesn't seem to change even after the umask cmd? At least when i had a look in the gui
[12:21] <Oleander> jussi01: ok in my monitor hw i have intel as primary, ati and secondary and vesa as unused.
[12:25] <intelikey> tzd yeah you'll need someone else on the amarok issue.
[12:26] <tzd> intelikey: alright! Anyway, thanks for all your help! Highly appreciated :)
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> my turn to ask now :)
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> just install kde4 but how canI remove the kde3 stuff please :D
[12:28] <sirbobbyuk> does anyone else have problems connect to their Yahoo mail
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> sirbobbyuk, with what application?
[12:28] <sirbobbyuk> firefox
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> sirbobbyuk, so you are going to mail.yahoo.com ?
[12:29] <sirbobbyuk> i have just pinged the servers and there was no reply
[12:29] <sirbobbyuk> yes
[12:30] <sirbobbyuk> the ping sent around 460 packs of data but none was received
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> sirbobbyuk, try configuring kmail / thunderbird to get the mail via POP
[12:31] <sirbobbyuk> ok does that mean i will have to get the smtp and pop details
[12:31] <intelikey> tzd welcome
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> sirbobbyuk, yeah but theres a million walkthroughs online :)
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> How can I remove KDE3 stuff now I have updated to KDE4 please
[12:32] <sirbobbyuk> yeah ive noticed
[12:33] <intelikey> what is this error telling me "Privilege separation user sshd does not exist"  ?
[12:33] <sirbobbyuk> i did try and fined anything to kick the server....but then i thought would have to have password logon
[12:33] <intelikey> that there needs to be an sshd user account ?
[12:34] <sirbobbyuk> dumb thought i know
[12:34] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: You don't really want to do that unless you're willing to use an incomplete desktop. (complete if you consider games and edu apps as your only uses)
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Jucato, its a virtual machine so I don't care. I'm just playing til I commit to my main system
[12:35] <Eduardo> I Need setup my kubuntu to access my windows network to be a workstation somebody can ehlp me???
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Jucato, do you know the command/s please or a HOWTO
[12:35] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: theoretically, removing kdelibs4c2a should do that
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Jucato, and that will remove kde3?
[12:37] <Jucato> it will also remove amarok, kaffeine, etc... anything that uses kde3
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Jucato, doing it now
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Jucato, cheers man
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Jucato, backed up my virtual disk (10Gb) so its all fun and games :)
[12:38] <Jucato> heh
[12:38] <Jucato> this might also help: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[12:39] <Jucato> the Removes Kubuntu part
[12:39] <Oleander> ActionParsnip: could u help with dual screens?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> !dualscreen | Oleander
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualscreen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <Oleander> thanks
[12:40] <Dr_willis> aha - I neexd to set up My nvidia dual screen setup also. :) i just have to rember how i did it.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Oleander, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[12:40] <Dr_willis> You using an nvidia card?
[12:40] <ubuntu> hi
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Jucato, I've been dropped at CLI with no cursor. Do I need to reboot?
[12:40] <Oleander> ati raedon 9200
[12:41] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: how/when were you dropped?
[12:42] <Eduardo> Oleander: How you have installed your kubuntu using a ATI video card ??
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> i ran sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2a and the x server wanted to end so I said ok and I have some service reports about them starting. a floating cursor and no prompt
[12:43] <Jucato> hm... weird... why would X be affected :/
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Jucato, the virtual disk is not being ccessed at all
[12:43] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: try redoing it and use the link I gave instead..
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> i'll reboot. willdo man
[12:43] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: or can you switch to a TTY inside that VM?
[12:44] <intelikey> if i set etc/ssh/sshd_conf  "UsePrivilegeSeparation no"  sshd will start.  but that of course is a security hole but if i set it to "UsePrivilegeSeparation yes"  then i get the error massage "Privilege separation user sshd does not exist"   anyone know why ?
[12:44] <Oleander> Eduardo: no, because i had an onboard video card, installation would only work if i used that. now once in kubuntu i changed the intel to unused and the ati to primary 1 and secondary 1. at the moment only primary 1 is outputting
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Jucato, haha it booted :)
[12:46] <Eduardo> Oleander: I tried install but I havea ATI HD2400 PRO !!! when I try to start the Xserver the Xserver get Stuck
[12:46] <Eduardo> :(
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Jucato, it didnt do anything, just closed x haha
[12:47] <Eduardo> In text mode I cant install the ati driver
[12:47] <Eduardo> :(
[12:50] <Oleander> eduardo: someone in here an hour ago told me i had a vid card that was auto installed. i didnt have to worry. there was some link with a list of ati cards and my 9200 was on it
[12:52] <spiroo> Take a look on this Kickoff menu: http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/25441-1.png. Would be awesome if it could be implemented, great organized and easy to access everything. Just some nice, effects, Oxygen theme and icons and there it is ;)
[12:53] <Oleander> !COMPIZ
[12:53] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:55] <Eduardo> Oleander: I Heard from someone that ATI will open your drivers for linux users
[12:56] <Dr_willis> Ive heard that befor...... :)
[12:57] <Dr_willis> ati and nvidia have gotten better.. but they still need to open the drivers up more.
[12:58] <Eduardo> its true
[13:00] <Eduardo> man I'm very sad with this problem because i can't install the kubuntu on my  computer :(
[13:01] <Oleander> i really wanted kubuntu but this just seems to mcuh hassle getting dual screens to work.
[13:02] <CalZong> I have a problem mith the sound. When I want to play a midi file it just plays the first notes and holds, but if i use "timidity mymidifile.mid" in terminal everything works fine
[13:02] <Lynoure> Dr_willis: If they only opened their specs, whether they made open drivers would be irrelevant
[13:04] <Eduardo> Oleander: but i have instaled the ubuntu Its better than me :)
[13:06] <Eduardo> I have a Supermicro server here for test !!! it have a omboard ati video board and that shit work fine !!!
[13:07] <enotee> what do i need to create  a iso image from files
[13:07] <Eduardo> how can I do that??
[13:11] <Richard_Balls> I need help with adept/apt
[13:12] <Richard_Balls> "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[13:13] <miladen> any1 here have knowledge on GFX cards?
[13:13] <Dr_willis> miladen,  You are refering to what exactly?
[13:13] <Dragnslcr> Richard_Balls- check /var/log/dpkg.log for errors
[13:13] <miladen> I need a good gfx card for my pc that has at least 1 vga and 1 dvi output
[13:14] <miladen> but i dont wanna spend a lot, cause i dont play games and stuff like that
[13:14]  * Richard_Balls is a noob
[13:14] <miladen> and it should be very "linux friendly"
[13:14] <Richard_Balls> how?
[13:14] <Dr_willis> miladen,  most of the cards that have 2 dvi - can have an adaptor to turn one into a vga
[13:14] <Dr_willis> pick an nvidia card in your budget.
[13:14] <miladen> yeah thats fine too
[13:14] <miladen> all nvidia cards are linux supported?
[13:16] <Dr_willis> pretty much
[13:16] <Dragnslcr> You can get a GeForce 8400 that has a DVI and VGA output for about $60
[13:16] <Dr_willis> For a lower need , nvidia has some fanless video cards out also.
[13:16] <Dragnslcr> Richard_Balls- probably Kate would be the easiest
[13:16] <Dr_willis> $50 or so range
[13:17] <Dr_willis> nice and quite.
[13:17] <Richard_Balls> ok
[13:17] <Dr_willis> well night all.
[13:18] <miladen> i have about $100
[13:18] <miladen> to spend
[13:18] <miladen> on an nvidia card... any models you recommend?
[13:18] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, you can get a good nVidia card for $100
[13:18] <Richard_Balls> what am I looking for? I just did 'apt-get upgrade' so it's fairly long
[13:19] <mangoOOOOoooo> !compiz
[13:19] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[13:19] <Eduardo> here a good NVIDIA card its cust R$1600
[13:19] <miladen> what?
[13:20] <Eduardo> the 8600 gt cust R$1600 here
[13:20] <Eduardo> :(
[13:20] <Dragnslcr> miladen- for $100 you can probably get a good 8500 or 8600
[13:20] <miladen> i said i have $100 not $1600
[13:22] <Eduardo> miladen: where U live?
[13:23] <Dragnslcr> Richard_Balls- you can run apt-get upgrade again and see what gets added to the log
[13:23] <Dragnslcr> Richard_Balls- if you have a package that you're trying to install that's broken, it should try to install it again
[13:24] <Richard_Balls> nothing was added
[13:24] <Oleander> help: am getting this when doing sudo apt-get update -> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege?
[13:24] <Eduardo> sudo ^
[13:24] <wesley> vlc is giving ab error
[13:25] <Oleander> "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct problme
[13:25] <Richard_Balls> when I attempt to enable xorg-driver-fglrx from system settings>restricted drivers I get the error message
[13:26] <Eduardo> miladen: but i'm in brazil how can I buy from you?
[13:26] <wesley> vlc is getting error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52409/
[13:29] <barnbarn> my lovely fresh install of kubuntu kernel panics on the "loading kernel hardware drivers"
[13:30] <barnbarn> which I'm willing to bet is the nvidia agp card in it
[13:30] <barnbarn> anyone have any smashing ideas how to stop it doing that?
[13:36] <ibou> unstable hibernation on my dell inspiron 1520. Help plz.
[13:37] <hw> ibou: Know how to use google? :>
[13:38] <se7en> hmmm i was going to try hardy but ...Need to get 602MB/763MB of archives ...
[13:38] <ibou> hw: yes but i didnt found the info i wanted
[13:38] <ibou> didnt find
[13:39] <stefan__> hello all
[13:39] <stefan__> I want to connect to an astaro firewall with kvpnc via pptp
[13:40] <stefan__> with M$ there is no Problem, only my local kubuntu is not working
[13:40] <hw> ibou: What do you expect? How can anyone help you without a single error message?
[13:40] <stefan__> when I do a traceroute I get other Ips as the M$ clients
[13:40] <hw> ibou: Car doesn't start. plz help
[13:40] <hw> LOL
[13:40] <ibou> hw: maybe someone who had the same problem on the same laptop ?
[13:41] <huso> holaaaa
[13:41] <ibou> hw: anyway thanks for your helpful participation
[13:41] <FaiDillinGer> hey whats up you all
[13:41] <stefan__> when I add routes in kvpnc the remote site is hanging up
[13:41] <stefan__> can someone help?
[13:42] <hw> ibou: In that case: "Anyone here using dell inspiron 1520?"
[13:42] <ibou> if you want...
[13:42] <Lynoure> ibou: hibernation is common problem, tiresome to troubleshoot, but you have googled for  gutsy inspiron 1520 hibernation  already and tried some measures you found?
[13:43] <ibou> Lynoure: yes i did
[13:44] <ibou> Lynoure: now it's better because i can suspend
[13:44] <ibou> and my hibernation works but only sometimes
[13:45] <ibou> Lynoure: i used this page : http://boulderjams.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/ubuntu-dell-suspend-fix/
[13:45] <Richard_Balls> and now I can't install any new packages
[13:45] <Richard_Balls> from command line or from adept
[13:46] <wesley> i cant get my screen good i got 19 inch tft widescreen on 1,024 x 768 but if i try 1440x900 then its not full screen
[13:46] <Lynoure> ibou: it working sometimes sounds strange. When it does not work, how does it fail?
[13:48] <ibou> Lynoure: the screen become black but the pc doesn't shut down
[13:48] <Julietta2> hi all !  There is a new forum called Exotics Forum and it has free membership option !  Exotics Adult Forum ::: http://exotics.heavenforum.com/index.htm !...
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[13:50] <seezer> wesley: which graphics card do you have?
[13:50] <Lynoure> ibou: do you have any guesses on what is different when it does not work?
[13:51] <se7en> !bot
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[13:52] <Lynoure> ibou: "
[13:52] <Lynoure> What video are you using? With fglrx, I have to set the screensaver to "Blank" only, as the suspend/resume scripts will lock the screen. If something that uses GL is running, the machine locks hard and refuses to suspend."
[13:53] <Lynoure> ibou: so, that could be your difference, no big idea on how to fix it, I don't use fglrx...
[13:53] <ibou> Lynoure: yes maybe
[13:54] <edi> hi, how can i paste the content of the clipboard (middleclick) with a keycombination?
[13:54] <jpatrick> !paste
[13:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[13:54] <ibou> Lynoure: the problem is that since im french it's hard to describe you the situation in english
[13:55] <ibou> Lynoure: but thanks for your help ill try to test some gl things
[13:56] <edi> if i mark a text it can be pasted with a middleclick, but how paste it with a hotkey?
[13:56] <ibou> Lynoure: my video card is geforce 8600 GT
[14:00] <se7en> edi: ctrl + shift + insert
[14:00] <soulrider> does anyone know if the latest xorg is breaking toher things?
[14:01] <edi> se7en doesnt work....
[14:01] <se7en> does for me edi ...
[14:01] <edi> where i can i configure this key?
[14:03] <se7en> have a look at kcontrol regional & accdssibility > keyboard shortcuts
[14:03] <se7en> edi
[14:04] <se7en> application shortcuts > paste selection is ctrl shift insert
[14:04] <Richard_Balls> I'm having a lot of trouble installing any new packages but I keep getting "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[14:07] <edi> se7en: thats strange, keykombination was set like u said, but didnt work, changed the key doesnt work either...
[14:07] <seezer> Richard_Balls: you could try `apt-get install -f` in a terminal to get more detailed information
[14:08] <se7en> edi sorry but than i can't help ...
[14:11] <fernando_> I am trying to isntall codeblocks, but the package is break, any idea?
[14:12] <Richard_Balls> seezer: "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[14:15] <seezer> Richard_Balls: and if you try `sudo apt-get install $yourpackage` you get an error?
[14:15] <stf> Hi. Running feisty I think. When I do Ctrl+Alt+F1 I get a black screen instead of a virtual terminal. What's going on?
[14:18] <Richard_Balls> yes
[14:19] <seezer> Richard_Balls: could you paste all the console output to a pastebin please
[14:22] <Richard_Balls> ah
[14:22] <Richard_Balls> no need
[14:23] <Richard_Balls> 'install xorg-driver-fglrx' brings 'xorg-driver-fglrx: Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but it is not installable'
[14:25] <stf> Hi. When I do Ctrl+Alt+F1 I get a black screen instead of a virtual terminal. What's going on?
[14:26] <seezer> Richard_Balls: what version of kubuntu do you use?
[14:27] <Richard_Balls> 7.10
[14:27] <Richard_Balls> installed yesterday
[14:27] <seezer> did you refresh your repositories yet?
[14:28] <Richard_Balls> with apt-get update/upgrade?
[14:28] <seezer> Richard_Balls: version 3.3.6-15ubuntu2 of libstdc++5 is in gutsy/main
[14:28] <seezer> apt-get update yes
[14:28] <Richard_Balls> yes
[14:28] <seezer> or use adept manager
[14:28] <Oleander> !dual
[14:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:29] <seezer> Richard_Balls: what tells you `apt-cache policy libstdc++5`?
[14:29] <seezer> (always with sudo)
[14:30] <Richard_Balls> installed: none/candidate: none
[14:30] <U238Willy> hey guys.. i have two .debs one is dependent on the other to install.. (i get a dependency error when I try to Gdebi either one)
[14:31] <U238Willy> any ideas?
[14:31] <seezer> Richard_Balls: then something is wrong with your repositories. it's in main/ - you should have that
[14:32] <seezer> Richard_Balls: easiest way would be to start adept_manager and Adept>Manage Repositories
[14:33] <seezer> you get a list of "Downloadable from the Internet" - i'd activate everything (perhaps not source code if you don't need it) and choose a fitting option from "Download from:"
[14:34] <seezer> in the tab "Third-Party Software" disable the cdrom and in "Updates" i'd suggest "Important security updates", "Recommended updates" and "Unsupported updates"
[14:35] <seezer> close, fetch updates and try again
[14:38] <Richard_Balls> okay
[14:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy Folks  :-)
[14:39] <seezer> BluesKaj: howdy!
[14:40] <BluesKaj> hi seezer
[14:41] <emilsedgh> howdy BluesKaj
[14:43] <Richard_Balls> that did teh trick seezer
[14:43] <Richard_Balls> thanks
[14:44] <venik> I need help in accessing an external USB hard drive from Kubuntu 7.10
[14:44] <venik> It USED to work, but now I cannot access it from Linux
[14:44] <seezer> Richard_Balls: you're welcome. strange that you had to do that anyway..
[14:45] <tzd> i need help auto-mounting a newly formatted hdd. It's now formatted as ext3 but I have to mount it manually and I'm not quite sure how to modify the fstab. Help someone please?
[14:45] <seezer> venik: what did you do in the meantime? ;)
[14:45] <venik> My USB drive is formatted as VFAT
[14:46] <tzd> venik: have you had it in windows environment recently?
[14:46] <venik> updated programs, etc
[14:46] <venik> no
[14:46] <seezer> tzd: KDE offers a gui for that via SystemSettings>Advanced>Disk&Filesystems
[14:46] <stefan__> I want to do route add permant but can not find away to do it
[14:46] <venik> I tried to enable it through the SystemSettings, but failed
[14:46] <stefan__> can someone help?
[14:46] <tzd> seezer:  thanks, I'll have a look there soon :)
[14:46] <seezer> venik: do you see the drive in storage:// ?
[14:46] <venik> it does not even appear there
[14:46] <venik> (although it used to)
[14:46] <venik> no, it is not in the STORAGE
[14:46] <tzd> venik: one thing that worked for me was to disable to option "boot as user"
[14:47] <venik> to try that I have to see it in the systemsetting
[14:47] <tzd> venik: oh, never mind what i just said then :)
[14:47] <seezer> venik: pull it out - wait a little
[14:47] <seezer> venik: look at the last lines of `dmesg` in a terminal
[14:47] <venik> sI tried disconnecting it a few times
[14:47] <seezer> then plug it in and recall dmesg
[14:47] <Richard_Balls> my computer has a utility partition in /dev/sda1
[14:48] <venik> I can READ it as root from the terminal
[14:48] <Richard_Balls> I don't want it appearing in storage media
[14:48] <Richard_Balls> will 'delete' hide it or delete the partition?
[14:49] <venik> actually, not from the terminal but from Krusader if I am root
[14:49] <venik> but I cannot write to it, or drag and rop to it as I used to be able to do
[14:49] <venik> somehow, I think my fstab file got corrupted
[14:49] <seezer> venik: how do you mount it?
[14:49] <venik> but it is all Chinese to me
[14:50] <venik> Other USB drive (flash) work fine
[14:50] <seezer> manually/via fstab or do you just plug it in and wait for hal to handle it?
[14:50] <venik> I just unplug the USB wire, wait, and replug it
[14:51] <venik> I tried to mount it using mountman, which also used to work, but now returns an error
[14:51] <BluesKaj> hiya emilsedgh ...was on the phone
[14:52] <emilsedgh> BluesKaj: np, just wanted to say 'howdy' to you :P
[14:52] <venik> can I paste my fstab here?
[14:52] <seezer> venik: hm i don't know mountman but hal and kde should handle it if you plug it in
[14:52] <genii> !paste|venik
[14:52] <ubotu> venik: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:52] <seezer> genii: thx :)
[14:53]  * BluesKaj passes genii a hot cuppa coffee
[14:53] <venik> I just pasted it there
[14:53] <genii> BluesKaj: Thanks
[14:53] <genii> BluesKaj: Go a flu cure? Could use that too....
[14:53] <seezer> genii: same here.. :/
[14:54] <seezer> venik: thats nice. now show us the url
[14:54] <genii> venik: Remember to give us the website address of the stuff you put there so we can go see it
[14:54] <venik> since I do not speak fstab, I am reluctant to play with it
[14:54] <seezer> you shouldn't need to anyway
[14:54] <venik> sorry-- here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52418/
[14:54] <BluesKaj> genii, snowed in here ... got a 2ft snowbank at the end of the driveway ...biggie storm here last nite
[14:55] <genii> seezer: The kde gui mount app puts weird crap sometimes into the fstab, looks like html codes occasionally
[14:55] <seezer> genii: ouch. looks like that.
[14:55] <seezer> didn't have this problems before
[14:55] <genii> BluesKaj: No snow here but hella high winds..like 90kph
[14:56] <BluesKaj> yup, 50-60 here
[14:56] <tzd> seezer:  the KDE option for mounting was great stuff :) I havent rebooted yet but it worked immediately. Will my "new" settings overwrite the old settings in fstab? In my old settings i had a NTFS partition mounted where i now mount an ext3 partition. It's basically the same thing, only thing that differs is the filesystem
[14:56] <venik> Is it OK to rename fstab and reboot?
[14:57] <seezer> tzd: the fstab should already be "fixed" - just have a look at it
[14:57] <venik> maybe it will create a correct fstab this time?
[14:57] <genii> venik: no
[14:57] <venik> ok
[14:57] <seezer> tzd: it's quite easy to understand - or paste it in a pastebin and we'll probably tell you ;)
[14:57] <venik> the offending drive is LACIE
[14:57] <genii> venik: If you do that the system will be unable to mount the root partition
[14:57] <venik> ok, I am glad I asked ;-)
[14:57] <seezer> venik: did you reformat the drive?
[14:57] <venik> NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:58] <venik> I shall if that is the only way
[14:58] <tzd> seezer: it's been updated. I'll do the settings from the kde menu from now on, thanks a lot for your help :)
[14:58] <genii> seezer: Note <device> cdrom   etc etc  <-- crap like what I described before
[14:58] <venik> but since I can read it, but not write to it, I thought it is not broken
[14:58] <seezer> genii: yeah.. too bad..
[14:59] <genii> venik: With the drive plugged in please do:  sudo fdisk -l      as well as: blkid         and put those results also into a pastebin for us to see
[14:59] <genii> work calls me, AFK a bit
[14:59] <venik> can any of you experts look at my fstab on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52418/ and let me know what you think?
[14:59] <Eduardo> !compiz
[15:00] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:00] <Eduardo> !envy
[15:00] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[15:00] <ForgeAus> is Jucato there?
[15:03] <stefan__> I want to do as permanent route an followed the instaructions here:
[15:03] <stefan__> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-234207.html
[15:04] <stefan__> but this is nnot working, the route dont come up
[15:04] <stefan__> can someone help?
[15:05] <genii> back
[15:06] <genii> venik: Without the result of: sudo fdisk -l     there is no way to know which /dev entries to put for the problemmatic drives
[15:07] <venik> ok-- I shall paste that in a second
[15:08] <venik> Voila:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52429/
[15:08] <genii> venik: Reading, thanks
[15:08] <seezer> stefan__: could you show me your route adding line?
[15:08] <venik> the results of venik's sudo fdisk -l
[15:08] <stefan__> #!/bin/sh
[15:08] <stefan__> # Set static routes
[15:08] <stefan__> #
[15:08] <stefan__> /sbin/route add -net 172.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 gw 10.104.225.1
[15:09] <seezer> that's in /etc/network/if-up.d/ right?
[15:09] <seezer> and executable
[15:09] <stefan__> yes
[15:09] <stefan__> and its executeable!
[15:10] <seezer> do you use knetworkmanager?
[15:10] <genii> venik: I do not see any entry which could be the lacie, did you have it powered on and connected by the usb cord when you issued the command?
[15:10] <venik> yes, I did
[15:10] <stefan__> yes I used it also, but not to add a route
[15:10]  * genii goes back to re-examine
[15:10] <seezer> venik: does it appear in `lsusb`?
[15:11] <vijay_> hi
[15:11] <stefan__> what can I do?
[15:11] <genii> venik: What is the size of the lacie disk?
[15:11] <Autoscum> Hey guys, my soundcard crapped up for no reason...
[15:11] <Autoscum> What's up with that? :D
[15:11] <venik> I do not see an lsusb
[15:12] <venik> I just powered down and up again.  Let me try it again
[15:12] <Autoscum> I mean - XMMS just skips fast through the song, I don't hear any sound or anything...
[15:12] <Autoscum> !sound
[15:12] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[15:12] <stefan__> !route
[15:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about route - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:12] <Autoscum> genii: Bulgaria? :P
[15:13] <venik> I still do not see it...
[15:13] <genii> Autoscum: Me? Canada
[15:13] <Autoscum> Ah..
[15:13] <Autoscum> Because genii means genius in Bulgarian. :p
[15:13] <seezer> stefan__: hm. strange. could you add something like 'echo foo >> /tmp/bar' into the script to check if it gets called
[15:14] <vijay_> can any1 tell me how to install firefox in kubuntu?
[15:14] <Autoscum> vijay_ go to Add/Remove Programs and search for Firefox
[15:14] <Autoscum> :)
[15:14] <venik> use ADD/REMOVE program, type FIREFOX in the search box
[15:15] <stefan__> yes bar is the in tmp when I restart networking!
[15:15] <genii> venik: OK. You say you can mount it occasionally. Do whatever it is that acomplishes this. Then in Konsole issue: cat /etc/mtab    and put that please to the pastebin
[15:16] <stefan__> btw kubuntu 7.10
[15:16] <ForgeAus> I finally fixed my font problem
[15:16] <ForgeAus> still no X tho
[15:16] <genii> Autoscum: Oddly I've heard that exact same thing about Bulgaria and my nickname here at least 5-6 times now
[15:17] <avator33> ligo hlp pls
[15:18] <Autoscum> genii: Now isn't that strange? :)
[15:18] <Autoscum> Heh.
[15:18] <genii> venik: The mtab file contains a list of currently mounted filesystems, so we should then know what device, also what options etc etc
[15:18] <Autoscum> Where does your nickname come from?
[15:18] <venik> OK-- here it is (my mtab) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52431/
[15:18] <seezer> stefan__: hm. really strange. you have an interface in the gws network up?
[15:18] <BluesKaj> well, the nick genii in english means plural (more than one genius) , which could be misinterpreted as multiple geniuses or presonalities ?  :-)
[15:19] <venik> I probably should reboot and try these things again
[15:19] <BluesKaj> err personalities
[15:19] <Autoscum> BluesKaj: I doubt it. :D
[15:19] <BluesKaj> hehe
[15:19] <ForgeAus> Blues, well can't be MPD, it doesn't really exist anymore, that was reclassified as DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder)
[15:19] <genii> Autoscum: My name means the same as in Bulgarian
[15:19] <ForgeAus> I mean seriously Every Actor has MPD as their profession!
[15:20] <genii> venik: OK, reading
[15:20] <Autoscum> genii: Nice! :D
[15:20] <Autoscum> lulz
[15:20] <venik> it is possible that there is something wrong somewhere with the drives, since when I reboot it often getrs stuck at one point, with the blue bar 1/4 of the way to finishing
[15:20] <BluesKaj> bah humbug.... psyhco-babble strikes again :)
[15:20] <stefan__> ähh, gws?
[15:20] <stefan__> networking is up
[15:20] <ForgeAus> no thats the Empire, or didn't you watch Star Wars :)
[15:20]  * BluesKaj is losing spelling memory
[15:20] <seezer> stefan__: ermn. gateway
[15:20] <stefan__> only the route dont comes up
[15:21] <BluesKaj> use dig in the terminal
[15:21] <Autoscum> So my problem: My soundcard doesn't work. It doesn't give any error, XMMS plays 10x faster with no sound and flash crashes.
[15:21] <stefan__> there is only a default route
[15:21] <Autoscum> Any ideas, anyone?
[15:21] <stefan__> now I have to add another tot do vpn
[15:22] <venik> genii, do u see anything worthwhile in my mtab, or should I reboot and try again?
[15:23] <Richard_Balls> >.> I installed fglrx
[15:23] <Richard_Balls> and restarted
[15:23] <Richard_Balls> I have a cursor and a black screen
[15:23] <stefan__> someone else has same problem wirh permanent route add on kubuntu 7.10?
[15:23] <venik> rebooting
[15:23] <genii> venik: There is something unusual there, and also in your previous fstab post. The / seems to be mounted in 2 locations
[15:23] <BluesKaj> stefan , try neotrace pro on wine ...I think it's floating around on the net in certain pirate sites altho it's been officially discontinued
[15:23] <simion314> can some one help me to install a driver for the sound card? here are the instructions http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52419/ , i have some problems because of the folder   structure
[15:24] <venik> genii, that does not sound good
[15:24] <BluesKaj> well gents and gentilles, gotta go push some snow , BBL.
[15:24] <genii> venik: To tell for certain I ned to see output of command: blkid    to compare sda1 and sda5 UUID agains the fstab file
[15:25] <venik> ok-- let me get that
[15:25] <seezer> stefan__: perhaps it is a timing problem - tried the "up" variant via /etc/network/interfaces before?
[15:25]  * genii hands BluesKaj a scarf and some hotpockets warmers
[15:25] <seezer> where you can add it to the corresponding interface
[15:25] <stefan__> no, what have I to do
[15:25] <stefan__> ?
[15:26] <seezer> stefan__: look at the website you showed me
[15:26] <stefan__> ok
[15:26] <simion314> can some one help me to install a driver for the sound card? here are the instructions http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52419/ , i have some problems because of the folder   structure
[15:26] <venik> genii, the blkid is in: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52432/
[15:26] <genii> venik: OK thanks
[15:27] <seezer> out for some nicotine..
[15:27] <stefan__> you mean I should try it in /etc/networking/interfaces?
[15:27] <stefan__> ok, ill try
[15:27] <Richard_Balls> aaand now grub doesn't give me a list of operating systems
[15:28] <Richard_Balls> just a black screen with some gibberish
[15:28] <Richard_Balls> and whenever I press a key it gives me more
[15:28] <ForgeAus> Richard sounds like your menu.list is messed up
[15:28] <ForgeAus> under /boot/grub ???
[15:28] <stefan__> when I do this the interface dont comes up!
[15:29] <stefan__> only neetworking restart, or is a reboot necessary?
[15:29] <Richard_Balls> yeah ForgeAus
[15:29] <Richard_Balls> I'm not sure why that would have happened or how to fix it
[15:32] <genii> venik: Sorry for lag, work is getting a bit busy. But anyhow: kdesu kate /etc/fstab           and then comment out the last 4 lines at the bottom by putting a # at the start of the lines. then save it and exit. After that to reboot (I normally do not suggest reboots but your / is mounted in 2 spots right now, this needs fixing)
[15:33] <genii> venik: I will return in 3-4 minutes, need to accomplish some work and return
[15:33] <vijay__> how to install firefox in kubuntu ? i pls tell me
[15:34] <sars> sudo apt-get install firefox
[15:34] <sars> make sure that you update the dep by typing sudo apt-get update in console
[15:35] <vijay__> i m new in linux/
[15:35] <seezer> stefan__: i mean "put a line 'up /sbin/route add ....' below the interface in /etc/network/interfaces"
[15:35] <Vermux> so here is the problem :
[15:36] <vijay__> ys
[15:37] <Vermux> I just installed kubuntu. since then, every time adept updates I get the following error: "there was an error commiting changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or commit would break packages
[15:37] <stefan__> okay it seems I have it, the permission were wrong I think, set it to 755, all is running!
[15:38] <stefan__> look herer, shorter discription:
[15:38] <stefan__> http://boilinglinux.blogspot.com/2007/12/how-to-add-permanent-route.html
[15:38] <stefan__> thanks!!! seezer :)
[15:38] <Vermux> additionaly, in Yahoo home page the "more" menu covers the search line
[15:38] <Richard_Balls> Vermux
[15:39] <Vermux> yes
[15:39] <Richard_Balls> in adept_manager
[15:39] <Vermux> Richard_Balls: yes
[15:39] <Richard_Balls> select sources
[15:39] <Richard_Balls> uhh
[15:39] <Vermux> savicevic1
[15:39] <Richard_Balls> just a second
[15:39] <Vermux> sssssssds
[15:40] <Autoscum> My soundcard doesn't work. It doesn't give any error, XMMS plays 10x faster with no sound and flash crashes.
[15:40] <seezer> stefan__: hum? how should it create /tmp/bla then?
[15:40] <Autoscum> Any ideas, anyone?
[15:40] <Vermux> Richard_Balls: ok
[15:41] <Richard_Balls> adept>manage repositories
[15:41] <seezer> stefan__: if the permissions were 'wrong' it shouldn't been able to be executed.
[15:41] <seezer> strange..
[15:41] <Richard_Balls> select community-maintained and software restcited by copyright
[15:41] <seezer> but nice it's working for you now. :)
[15:41] <genii> back
[15:41] <Richard_Balls> and disable cdrom in third-party software tab
[15:42] <seezer> Richard_Balls: nice to see you giving your knowledge back to the people :)
[15:42] <Richard_Balls> ha
[15:42] <kye> how can i setup a fsck for the next time i reboot.. it says if i start one while the file system is mounter it could cause issues?
[15:43] <simion314> can some one help me to install a driver for the sound card? here are the instructions http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52419/ , i have some problems because of the folder   structure
[15:43] <simion314> does anyone knows a how to for build drivers?
[15:45] <Vermux> Richard_Balls: ok, what now. all the updates I have done are lost?
[15:45] <Richard_Balls> sudo apt-get install
[15:48] <snowbird> i cant     query   a modem tried      two one  dial up one   dsl both work on  live and show up as in  ports
[15:48] <Vermux> Richard_Balls: I downloaded adobe flash player in the adept manager and got the same error
[15:49] <genii> venik: You alive over there? ;)
[15:55] <Vermux> Richard_Balls: I tried to dosudo apt-get install and get the following: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run dpkg --configure -a" to correct the problem
[16:00] <luisram> hola a todos
[16:00] <sui> nihao
[16:00] <sui> hallo
[16:00] <luisram> alguien a instalado vmgl para virtualbox
[16:01] <se7en> !es
[16:01] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:01] <luisram> gracias
[16:09] <ubuntu_> hello all
[16:09] <Newb_kubuntu> :D
[16:09] <K44ALL_Marphine> Good morning Kubuntu users! Please allow me to introduce myself before delving into the eight hundred questions I have regarding this OS, which is new to me. I have been running Kubuntu for about a week, and it's my first foray into the Linux universe.
[16:10] <K44ALL_Marphine> I'm not a computer novice - I even had a tech support gig for about four years for a dialup ISP, but this Linuk thing is totally new to me
[16:11] <jpatrick> K44ALL_Marphine: hi
[16:11] <Newb_kubuntu> lol
[16:11] <emilsedgh> hey K44ALL_Marphine
[16:11] <Newb_kubuntu> neeeewwwwwbbsss
[16:11] <Newb_kubuntu> its ok me to
[16:12] <K44ALL_Marphine> to draw a Windows paralell, you can't just tell me to go to the controll pannel, you say Start--->settings--->control pannel... were this WinBlows that I needed support for and were it that I have the same level of knowledge about it as I do Kubuntu
[16:13] <K44ALL_Marphine> so like I said, I have about 800 issues.  To preface this, I gotta say that I LOVE this shizznit. It's so STABLE, and the same hardware running Win666 crashed about three times a day
[16:14] <K44ALL_Marphine> but to start out with, the default install fails to recognise my Belkin 802.11G USB adapter
[16:14] <jpatrick> !ohmy | K44ALL_Marphine
[16:14] <ubotu> K44ALL_Marphine: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:14] <K44ALL_Marphine> I don't know if these drivers exist for that atter, don't know how to go about looking, and should by chance, I happen to locate them, I'm clueless on the install
[16:14] <K44ALL_Marphine> oookies ubotu sry
[16:15] <jpatrick> !bot > K44ALL_Marphine
[16:15] <Vermux> jpatrick: hi
[16:15] <jpatrick> K44ALL_Marphine: go to KMenu -> System -> Adept and you can install everything from there
[16:15] <jpatrick> Vermux: hey, how did it go?
[16:15] <K44ALL_Marphine> lol I noticed when it automagically opened a new chat window
[16:15] <Lynoure> K44ALL_Marphine: What drivers are you looking for?
[16:16] <Vermux> jpatrick: not good
[16:16] <Lynoure> oh, usb net adapter... usually not very happy hardware
[16:16] <Vermux> jpatrick: I installed kubuntu. but having problems
[16:16] <jpatrick> Vermux: ah...
[16:17] <K44ALL_Marphine> Well it's not happy or sad... it's just *not* at this point lokl
[16:17] <Lynoure> K44ALL_Marphine: Would you know the model number for that one, there are several that match the stats, I think
[16:17] <Vermux> jpatrick: how I install files from the internet? for example Im trying to watch a movie using adobe flash player. it opens adobe website and give me the option to download .tar.gz.file
[16:17] <Vermux> jpatrick: what do I do next?
[16:18] <jpatrick> Vermux: install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:18] <K44ALL_Marphine> drivers for this Belkin 802.11G usb adapter
[16:18] <K44ALL_Marphine> hrm justa sec
[16:19] <vijay_> how to install firefox in kubuntu?
[16:19] <K44ALL_Marphine> F5D7050
[16:19] <jpatrick> !firefox | vijay_
[16:19] <ubotu> vijay_: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[16:20] <K44ALL_Marphine> That's the model - a Belkin 802.11G USB adapter model # F5D7050
[16:20] <linux__> salut
[16:20] <se7en> !kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:21] <Vermux> jpatrick: I installed it. but even though I did that it still asks me to instal the player. it seems that adept_manager didnt update the system. Also- up untill now, everytime I installed something with adept_manager it gave me the following error message: "There was an error commiting changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or commit would break changes"
[16:21] <smeril> i have a simple question regarding how to use media files with ubuntu how can i see google video youtube and also play mp3, waw, mpeg, mpg and avi files? And i would also like to know more about easy installations
[16:21] <vijay_> firefox is not here in kubuntu
[16:21] <K44ALL_Marphine> And please keep in mind - anyone that offers me help - assume that I don't know any part of my anatomy from anything else that is n*not* part of my anatomy
[16:21] <smeril> me too
[16:22] <se7en> vijay_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox
[16:22] <intelikey> K44ALL_Marphine what's the issue ?
[16:22] <jpatrick> !flash
[16:22] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[16:22] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[16:22] <Lynoure> K44ALL_Marphine: ah, at least someone has gotten that to work, but using a third party package. See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/139070 or more specifically https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/139070/comments/21
[16:23] <K44ALL_Marphine> Can't get my Belkin 802.11G USB adapter model  F5D7050 to be recognised at all with Kubuntu Dapper Drake
[16:23] <smeril> thanks  i will try
[16:23] <Lynoure> K44ALL_Marphine: But, not the easiest stuff in the world. You could try the .deb Tim gave, but at your own risk and it probably still takes steps after that (not sure what, I don't play with usb wlan)
[16:24] <intelikey> K44ALL_Marphine im usb'less  so no help there.
[16:24] <genii> K44ALL_Marphine: First try to load the usbnet driver
[16:24] <Lynoure> K44ALL_Marphine: it will probably still not work with knetwork-manager, after you get it to that state
[16:25] <Lynoure> I guess he did not like my help :)
[16:25] <vijay_> how to install kppp in ubuntu?
[16:25] <MarcC> how do I empty trash for items that I deleted as root?
[16:25] <intelikey> Lynoure i like your help.  :)
[16:25] <intelikey> Lynoure and while we're at it...  :)
[16:25] <Lynoure> intelikey: oh, thank you :)
[16:25] <se7en> vijay_: it is installed
[16:26] <intelikey> howto trubble shoot  ssh auth failure ?
[16:26] <intelikey> trouble shoot even
[16:26] <vijay_> no there in not looking
[16:26] <K44ALL_Marphine> Well here's the thing - I can follow directions of they are more explicit than hardcore pr0n shot from ten angles, but if instructions are in any way incomplete or assume some knowledge of the OS, I'm more skrewed than a twelve year old Thai hooker
[16:27] <Lynoure> intelikey: Assuming access, or no access to the logs on the sshd side of things?
[16:27] <Vermux> jpatrick: I didnt get it. I cannot install it now because it has bug in it?
[16:27] <intelikey> Lynoure full access
[16:27] <bazhang> K44ALL_Marphine: language
[16:27] <jpatrick> Vermux: yeah, blame adobe
[16:27] <intelikey> Lynoure i can connect one way  but not back again
[16:28] <Lynoure> intelikey: hmm, rephrase that?
[16:28] <se7en> vijay_: alt + F2 and write kppp
[16:28] <Vermux> jpatrick: but isnt it a bug only in the uptae for flash?
[16:28] <K44ALL_Marphine> Like that thing you just said genii - "load usbnet driver" - where do I locate said driver and what is the process that I would utilize to load it?
[16:28] <jpatrick> Vermux: and install I believe
[16:28] <intelikey> both machines are setup about the same.   i can ssh into one from the other  but not the other from the one
[16:28] <Lynoure> intelikey: what happens when you try?
[16:29] <intelikey> root@192.168.0.6's password:
[16:29] <intelikey> Permission denied, please try again.
[16:29] <intelikey> and the password is right.
[16:29] <intelikey> and root is not locked out.
[16:29] <Vermux> ok, forget about that. I have bigger problems I suspect
[16:29] <trappist> intelikey: did you disable root login in sshd_config?
[16:29] <Lynoure> intelikey: are you sure sure sure the configurations are totally same? no ssh for root is quite common default
[16:30] <cnStarz> !tab
[16:30] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[16:30] <Vermux> jpatrick:  up untill now, everytime I installed something with adept_manager it gave me the following error message: "There was an error commiting changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or commit would break changes"
[16:30] <se7en> intelikey: is there a root acount on the 0,6 system
[16:30] <jpatrick> !adeptfix > Vermux
[16:30] <intelikey> se7en there is a root account on all linux boxen
[16:31] <trappist> intelikey: well not all - it's possible to get rid of it
[16:31] <genii> K44ALL_Marphine: since using KDE, open up program Konsole. Then type in:   sudo modprobe usbnet                         it will ask for password, put your usual one in
[16:31] <cnStarz> is there a kde4 channel?
[16:31] <se7en> well some of them don't allow ssh to the root intelikey
[16:31] <intelikey> trappist ok should i say a uid=0 account on all ?
[16:32] <intelikey> se7en i know   /etc/ssh/sshd_conf   PermitRootLogin no/yes
[16:32] <K44ALL_Marphine> cool thx genii - executing those commands now
[16:32] <trappist> intelikey: not quite :)  it's possible to delegate everything and not have a superuser at all.  of course that will break some software, but it can be done.
[16:32] <SSJ_GZ> cnStarz: #kubuntu-kde4
[16:32] <cnStarz> thanks
[16:33] <trappist> intelikey: is it maybe set up for key-only authentication?
[16:33] <Lynoure> intelikey: But, you have root account, with the password you typed in, right? anything fun in auth.log?
[16:33] <trappist> or, is your caps-lock on?
[16:33] <K44ALL_Marphine> was it supposed to provide any output to Konsole?
[16:33] <intelikey> negitive.
[16:33] <genii> K44ALL_Marphine: K44ALL_MarphineIf successful, no
[16:33] <K44ALL_Marphine> It didn't give me an error... or anything
[16:33] <genii> bah
[16:34] <intelikey> Lynoure looking at auth.log ....
[16:34] <se7en> intelikey: can you ssh in as a normal user
[16:34] <tdn> What packages do I need to remove to make a regular Ubuntu into an Ubuntu Server?
[16:34] <jpatrick> !purekde > tdn
[16:34] <jpatrick> tdn: just don't install kde later
[16:34] <intelikey> Lynoure ummmm  /var/log/auth.log is non-exsistant
[16:34] <genii> K44ALL_Marphine: Thats a good thing then. Now do: dmesg|tail  and see if it has any mention of the usb adapter
[16:35] <tdn> jpatrick, ok. Thanks.
[16:35] <trappist> intelikey: check syslog.conf to see where auth logs are going, or sshd_config to see what log facility is being used
[16:35] <Lynoure> intelikey: hmm, that's weird....
[16:35] <intelikey> se7en not on that server.  root or nothing.  and atm. not root.
[16:35] <thomas`> what software do I best use to get as much information about my HD as possible, to be precise, I need te production serial.
[16:36] <trappist> thomas`: depends on the hard drive.  is it ide? scsi? sata?
[16:36] <K44ALL_Marphine> k... what's the character between dmesg and tail?
[16:36] <thomas`> sata
[16:36] <thomas`> trappist:
[16:36] <trappist> K44ALL_Marphine: |
[16:37] <intelikey> let me go away and reboot that box.    brb
[16:37] <genii> K44ALL_Marphine: It's called a pipe symbol...usually found above/near Enter key
[16:37] <thomas`> trappist: any ideas?
[16:38] <trappist> thomas`: not sure, but maybe that's in /proc/scsi/sg/device_strs
[16:38] <K44ALL_Marphine> ...but Menu--->System Settings--->Network Settings only shows my ethernet adapter still
[16:38] <thomas`> trappist: nop thats not it
[16:39]  * genii looks for his advil
[16:39] <Lynoure> genii: is the bug I pointed K44ALL_Marphine to fixed? Because it would keep the usb adapter from working...
[16:39] <intelikey> i think my logging is hoeZd
[16:39] <trappist> thomas`: ah, got it.  sudo hdparm -i /dev/sda (or sdb or whatever)
[16:39] <intelikey> tty24 [root@dell.~] ls /var/log
[16:39] <intelikey> dmesg  sulog
[16:39] <trappist> intelikey: woah
[16:39] <intelikey> if i hadn't done it my self i'd sware that i'd been hacked.
[16:39] <genii> Lynoure: I'm going to go look at it right now. He's not using the 2.6.22 kernel tho obviously, if he is on 6.06
[16:40] <Lynoure> genii: oh, missed that bit...
[16:40] <thomas`> trappist: thanx
[16:40] <intelikey> the daemons that facilatate logging are probably not installed....
[16:41] <Lynoure> intelikey: "make it as simple as it can be and no simpler" somehow applies here.
[16:41] <K44ALL_Marphine> I gotta go check the laundry but will return in about five minutes... thank all esp genii for help rendered so far, and I plan on presuing this further upon my return. Thank you all for tolerating my total n00bieness
[16:42] <Lynoure> intelikey: I gotta go to get some paid work done. Good luck with the process.
[16:42] <intelikey> Lynoure you sujest the later portion of that phrase i assume
[16:42] <intelikey> Lynoure sure.  thanks.
[16:42] <MichaelSammels> When I run the Ubuntu LiveCD or install on my desktop, my monitor says that the input is not supported. Card is an Intel 845G.
[16:42] <MichaelSammels> Kubuntu*
[16:42] <arab_> hy all people
[16:43] <intelikey> i guess that i'll have to hack around some more to force sshd to work without being installed....
[16:43] <MichaelSammels> Any ideas?
[16:43] <intelikey> ooops...
[16:44] <genii> K44ALL_Marphine: The next driver to load would be the rt2500usb
[16:44] <arab_> why "ooops.."? intelikey
[16:44] <intelikey> MichaelSammels when it is telling you that press  ctrl+alt+plus
[16:44] <arab_> hy
[16:44] <arab_> w8tah
[16:44] <W8TAH> hello
[16:44] <MichaelSammels> intelikely: input not supported (monitor output)
[16:45] <MichaelSammels> Obh wait
[16:45] <MichaelSammels> :P
[16:45] <intelikey> MichaelSammels yes
[16:45] <MichaelSammels> I will
[16:45] <MichaelSammels> :D
[16:45] <MichaelSammels> Cheers
[16:45] <MichaelSammels> Does this work for the LiveCD?
[16:45] <intelikey> yep
[16:45] <intelikey> in fact press it several times with a slight delay between
[16:45] <arab_> hy intelikey
[16:45] <MichaelSammels> What does it do...
[16:45] <intelikey> step through the modes
[16:46] <intelikey> arab_ shalom
[16:46] <arab_> somewhere can help me?
[16:46] <arab_> ok
[16:46] <arab_> who are you?
[16:46] <sars> how kind of prob have u
[16:46] <sars> arab
[16:46] <intelikey> arab_ sars help you will
[16:47] <intelikey> :)
[16:47] <sars> hehe i will help u more
[16:47] <MichaelSammels> intelikely if I do this do I get graphics?
[16:47] <sars> here no place for your derty polycical sheet
[16:47] <intelikey> MichaelSammels hopefully  that's why i sujested it.
[16:48] <trappist> omg the spelling hurts
[16:48] <MichaelSammels> :D Trying when WinServer shuts down
[16:48] <intelikey> trappist be nice.  you know i can't spell my own name.
[16:49] <trappist> intelikey: it's everybody at once all of a sudden!  like it's spell-everything-wrong day or something
[16:49] <intelikey> did you miss the memo ?
[16:50] <trappist> intelikey: apparently!
[16:50] <affan> HI All, I am getting the error "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.". I have tried restarting the computer as well as running the dpkg --configure -a command. But I still get the same error... any ideas? thanks!
[16:50] <arab_> somewhere speak portuguese?
[16:50] <gladier_> affan: apt-get update
[16:50] <bjwebb> no sound is playing, where do i start
[16:50] <genii> intelikey: Was that the one about International Dyxlesia day?
[16:51] <sars> no francais oui arab oui
[16:51] <arab_> no sars
[16:51] <sars> takalam bil3arabia
[16:51] <bjwebb> !ubuntu-pt arab_
[16:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-pt arab_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:51] <stdin> !pt
[16:51] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[16:51] <arab_> tanks!
[16:52] <affan> gladier_: I just did that. I still get the same error.
[16:52] <Vermux> youtube
[16:53] <MichaelSammels> intelikey: is that the + on the numeric keypad or along the function keys row?
[16:54] <trappist> !pt | arab_
[16:54] <ubotu> arab_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[16:54] <trappist> oh oops I was scrolled up
[16:55] <intelikey> ok i think i may have found it.    i can ssh into the box from itself  but not from the network     now  do i need to list   listen addresses for all ip's on the lan ?
[16:56] <intelikey> genii yes it was.      "have some coffee?"
[16:56] <chx> I am running kubuntu gutsy and looking for a ftp program that can download one big file on multiple threads.
[16:56] <intelikey> MichaelSammels on the num pad.    but you missed my answer
[16:57] <intelikey> anyone knows sshd_conf   well enough to tell me if there is a way to listen on the entire lan with one line ?
[16:58] <intelikey> listen 192.168.0.0/24   or something ?
[16:58] <intelikey> ListenAddress 192.168.0. ^
[16:59] <jannis> hi, i've a small problem. i am using kde4 (launchpad-sources) and openoffice.org. when i klick file->save as, a new window comes up wich sais: no contact to klauncher (own translation from german). what can i do?
[16:59] <Vermux> how can I cause my computer to use a lot of resources to check its stability?
[16:59] <intelikey> kde4 support is in another channel
[16:59] <jannis> wich?
[17:00] <intelikey> !kde4
[17:00] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[17:00] <mark__> anyone know any good 3D games?
[17:00] <intelikey> Vermux stress testing ?
[17:00] <genii> Vermux render something huge in POV
[17:00] <jussi01> mark__: what kind of games?
[17:00] <intelikey> should be some good sujestion on the web about that
[17:00] <jussi01> !games | mark__
[17:00] <ubotu> mark__: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[17:01] <jussi01> mark__: I recomned tremulous
[17:01] <mark__> whats it like?
[17:01] <jussi01> !info tremulous
[17:01] <ubotu> tremulous: Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-4 (gutsy), package size 645 kB, installed size 1512 kB
[17:01] <jussi01> mark__: ^^
[17:01] <intelikey> cat /dev/hda | tar -xj - > /dev/null
[17:01] <intelikey> ooops -cj
[17:01] <mark__> i'll give it a try :)
[17:02] <intelikey> that should load it down for a little while
[17:03] <intelikey> Vermux   ^
[17:03] <genii> intelikey: I've decided you're devious and evil
[17:03] <genii> ;)
[17:03] <intelikey> genii ?
[17:03] <intelikey> he was asking for a stress test.
[17:04] <intelikey> that's a do nothing stress test if it actually works, i haven't tried it.
[17:04] <Vermux> intelikey: I have dual boot system with windows as well. the computer froze several times. I installed kubuntu yesterday and since then it didnt freeze. I want to have the computer work hard so I can test and see if it freezes or not
[17:04] <Vermux> genii: ^
[17:05] <intelikey> Vermux check that cat string   if it doesn't fail to run it should do the trick
[17:05] <intelikey> Vermux   cat /dev/hda | tar -cj - > /dev/null
[17:05] <Vermux> genii: the freezing not necessarily has connection with using many resources I think but at least I can test it somehow
[17:05] <Vermux> intelikey: ^
[17:05] <intelikey> des quatro
[17:06] <JoshOvki> hi
[17:07] <genii> Vermux: You may like to check out http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5317   although I do not know if possibly a .deb for it exists someplace
[17:07] <Vermux> intelikey:
[17:07] <Vermux> cat: /dev/hda: No such file or directory
[17:07] <Vermux> tar: -: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[17:07] <Vermux> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[17:07] <genii> Vermux: use sda instead then
[17:08] <intelikey> yeah try sda   in place of hda
[17:09] <intelikey> or what ever your hard drive is
[17:09] <intelikey> cat /proc/partitions will show it
[17:09] <intelikey> as would    sudo fdisk -l
[17:09] <LamerMan> hi everyone! is that possible to create a user without password?
[17:09] <intelikey> which is less typing
[17:10] <intelikey> LamerMan sure
[17:10] <intelikey> LamerMan how do you want it to function ?
[17:10] <jckl> what is the easiest way to set transparency in the titlebars without running a skin?
[17:10] <intelikey> no way to login or login without any password prompt ?
[17:11] <LamerMan> intelikey, when some user sees a list of users he just clicks on his without typing the password
[17:11] <LamerMan> that what i would like to do
[17:11] <LamerMan> :)
[17:11] <hydrogen> LamerMan: you can do that
[17:11] <hydrogen> in systemsettings
[17:11] <hydrogen> advanced, login manager
[17:11] <hydrogen> it lets you select what users can log in without a password
[17:11] <Vermux> intelikey: I cant su as root. how do I create a password for the root?
[17:12] <hydrogen> !sudo | Vermux
[17:12] <ubotu> Vermux: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[17:12] <hydrogen> !root | Vermux
[17:12] <ubotu> Vermux: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:12] <hydrogen> i was close :/
[17:12] <intelikey> LamerMan you will probably have to adjust your dm to allow it   and then  sudo passwd name -d
[17:12] <LamerMan> thanks! i'll try advanced, login manager :)
[17:12] <intelikey> Vermux sudo passwd root
[17:13] <intelikey> Vermux but you probably want to learn a little about sudo   as per the url above ^
[17:13] <genii> intelikey: just sudo passwd works actually
[17:14] <intelikey> genii yes i know that.  but it's good habit to use passwd <name>
[17:14] <intelikey> prevents some common oops's
[17:14] <LamerMan> in the "advanced, login manager" there's also AutoLogin :) that's exactly what i need
[17:15] <intelikey> LamerMan you can have timed login too
[17:15]  * intelikey uses autologin in the console
[17:15] <ardchoille> !supportroot | intelikey
[17:15] <ubotu> intelikey: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[17:16] <intelikey> ardchoille don't grawl at me.  he asked "how do I create a password for the root?"
[17:16] <cmacis> Hi all. I just got a book on gnome programming, so how can I most easily change from kde to gnome? Is it going to be downloading a ubuntu cd, backing up home and removing kubuntu?
[17:16] <ardchoille> intelikey: Then direct him to the factoid for !sudo
[17:16] <LamerMan> intelikey, thanks. I'll keep it in mind, now i hope this setting in the "Login manager" will be enough for me
[17:18] <Vermux> intelikey:
[17:18] <Vermux> cat /dev/sda | tar -cj - > /dev/null
[17:18] <Vermux> tar: -: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[17:18] <Vermux> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[17:18] <intelikey> ardchoille i'll do no such a damnd thing.   and you don't need to kick me out,  i can find the door myself.
[17:18] <Odd-rationale> My system tray got messed up. Instead of having two rows of icons, they line up in one row - which makes the tray rather long. I can't figure out how to put it back.
[17:20] <miladen> Does any1 know how i unrar a file with a password?
[17:20] <jpatrick> !unrar
[17:20] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[17:20] <Vermux> genii: none of it works
[17:20] <VampireKing> this unrar -p pass
[17:21] <llutz> miladen: unrar e file.rar
[17:22] <Odd-rationale> How do add the system tray back to the panel?
[17:24] <JoshOvki> kde3 or 4?
[17:25] <Odd-rationale> me? kde3
[17:26] <neville> Right click the panel, add applet, select it from the list?
[17:26] <JoshOvki> what they said
[17:26] <parkin> !ftp
[17:26] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[17:26] <Odd-rationale> neville: Don't find it in the list.
[17:26] <JoshOvki> it should be called Taskbar
[17:27] <JoshOvki> unless you mean the Window List Menu
[17:27] <Odd-rationale> JoshOvki: No, I'm looking for the system tray. the one were the klipper, amarok and the knetworkmanager resides.
[17:28] <JoshOvki> hmmm
[17:28] <JoshOvki> i just accidentaly closed the whole bloody lot
[17:29] <JoshOvki> mine is under as system tray
[17:29] <jussi01> Odd-rationale: yeah, its called system tray here also
[17:29] <JoshOvki> it is closed or off screen?
[17:30] <Odd-rationale> JoshOvki: When you right-click the panel and say add applet, Do you find an applet called "system tray"
[17:30] <JoshOvki> yes
[17:30] <JoshOvki> because you could try right click on the bar at the bottom, remove from panel > Applet  and see if System Tray is listed there
[17:31] <jckl> anyone know if i can make my titlebars transparent but where they show the app behind them and not just my wallpaper?
[17:31] <Odd-rationale> JoshOvki: I haven't closed it yet. My problem is that my icons are in one row instead of two. which makes it rather long.
[17:31] <miladen> llutz is it like: unrar e file.rar password?
[17:31] <Odd-rationale> JoshOvki: Yes. I find "System Tray" in the remove section. But not in the add. How about you?
[17:32] <ubunturos> !kubuntu-offtopic
[17:32] <llutz> miladen: "unrar e file.rar"   it will ask for password automagic
[17:32] <miladen> oh ok cool
[17:32] <JoshOvki> when it is added it hides from the add
[17:32] <miladen> thx
[17:32] <ubunturos> !#kubuntu-offtopic
[17:32] <ardchoille> Odd-rationale: You can only add one system tray applet, if it's already in the panel, then you won't find one in the add applet to panel dialog
[17:32] <Odd-rationale> ardchoille: OK
[17:33] <JoshOvki> is your panel rather small?
[17:33] <Odd-rationale> JoshOvki: No. it is normal (are we ot. or was that for someone esle)?
[17:34] <ardchoille> Odd-rationale: You're not ot, I think he's hunting
[17:34] <JoshOvki> that was for someone else
[17:35] <JoshOvki> you could try removing it and re-adding it
[17:35] <Odd-rationale> JoshOvki: That is what I just did. Didn't work.
[17:36] <JoshOvki> ok try this
[17:37] <JoshOvki> right click on the bar > Configure Panels
[17:37] <JoshOvki> in size at the bottom change that to custom
[17:37] <JoshOvki> and set it to 48 pixelsa
[17:37] <jontec> does anyone know how to fix my mouse in xorg.conf? I setup dual screens directly from there, but on my second monitor, my mouse pointer turns into a fuzzy box
[17:37] <Odd-rationale> I found this file ~/.kde/share/config/systemtray_panelappletrc
[17:38] <Odd-rationale> JoshOvki: Are your system tray in two rows or one?
[17:38] <JoshOvki> 2 now
[17:38] <JoshOvki> they where in 1 when it was set to normal
[17:38] <Odd-rationale> JoshOvki: Can I compare my file to yours?
[17:38] <JoshOvki> mine has very little in it
[17:39] <tei> greetings all
[17:39] <Odd-rationale> JoshOvki: Like two lines?
[17:39] <JoshOvki> [HiddenTrayIcons]
[17:39] <JoshOvki> Hidden=
[17:39] <tei> quick question, I seem to have made the alt+tab icons disappear.  How do I bring them back?
[17:40] <Odd-rationale> JoshOvki: OK were the some there... My panel is already set to custom: 48 pix
[17:40] <JoshOvki> try setting it larger
[17:40] <JoshOvki> or set it to large see what happens
[17:40] <tei> oh, I also the computer seems to no longer recognize the super (or windows) key
[17:40] <tei> which means my shortcuts aren't working
[17:40] <tei> all this happened with the upgrade to gutsy
[17:41] <Odd-rationale> JoshOvki: That worked. I set it to 54. then back to 48. and now I have two rows! Thank you!
[17:41] <JoshOvki> reconfig xorg to include the windows key as a special key would be my guess
[17:41] <JoshOvki> no worries :) glad to help
[17:41] <JoshOvki> tei if you do recofigure make sure you make a copy of the original xorg
[17:42] <niall> is firefox open source?
[17:42] <niall> it must be
[17:42] <Odd-rationale> niall: Yes.
[17:42] <ksivaji> yes
[17:42] <tei> k, I can give that a go, any other ideas to start with though?
[17:43] <Odd-rationale> niall: I think debian has some issues with ff's icon license or something. That is why they came up with iceape.
[17:43] <tei> or any ideas why alt+tab now just switches windows, without bringing up the menu?
[17:43] <JoshOvki> no ideas about the alt+tab
[17:43] <Vermux> how do I install mount.cifs in kubuntu?
[17:43] <niall> it doesn't integrate very well with my KDE theme :/
[17:43] <JoshOvki> tei just out of curiosity kde3 or 4?
[17:44] <tei> 3.5.8
[17:44] <jussi01> tei: compiz?
[17:44] <tei> that's what broke it...
[17:44] <JoshOvki> ok
[17:44] <tei> it was working, beryl wasn't after the upgrade, so I was installing compiz
[17:45] <JoshOvki> click the K menu and go to  System Settings
[17:45] <tei> I've tried uninstalling compiz though
[17:45] <tei> and it still doesn't give me the meny
[17:45] <tei> menu, even
[17:45] <niall> I didn't think beryl still existed
[17:45] <niall> I thought they merged with compiz or something
[17:45] <tei> I actually still prefer beryl to compiz
[17:45] <JoshOvki> so you cant get to the start menu?
[17:45] <Pici> !beryl
[17:45] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[17:45] <tei> yeah, it's not compiz fuzion
[17:45] <niall> yeah
[17:45] <niall> that's what I thought
[17:45] <tei> no, when I press alt+tab
[17:46] <niall> which is why I get confused when people always go on about install beryl
[17:46] <tei> it just automatically goes to the next window
[17:46] <tei> meh, I played with them both
[17:46] <tei> and preferred the beryl interface better
[17:46] <tei> but anyway
[17:46] <Vermux> genii: how the link u sent can help test the computer?
[17:46] <tei> it doesn't list the windows that are open
[17:46] <Vermux> how do I install mount.cifs in kubuntu?
[17:46] <tei> I'd obviouslly prefer the little preview windows... but even the normal icon with the filename would work
[17:46] <JoshOvki> it looks like your short cut cut has gone wrong, if you cant get into the System Settings you should be able to get it to open
[17:47] <niall> is there any way to make firefox integrate better with KDE?
[17:47] <se7en> !install | Vermux
[17:47] <ubotu> Vermux: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[17:48] <se7en> !apt
[17:48] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[17:49] <Vermux> se7en:
[17:49] <Vermux> Title Search: "mount.cifs"
[17:49] <Vermux>  
[17:49] <Vermux> 0 results of about 25433 pages. (0.63 seconds)
[17:49] <kobzeci> hi everbody i am usind kubuntu 7.10,and i cant get into KDE 4 desktop while my ati driver is enabled from settings,splash screen of KDE 4  just reboots,when i disbale drivers i can get into it but the desktop effects are crashing the screen
[17:49] <kobzeci> i have ati radeon 9550
[17:50] <ardchoille> kobzeci: kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4
[17:50] <kobzeci> oh sorry i am noob
[17:50] <JoshOvki> tei open up a terminal if you can and try   systemsettings
[17:50] <kobzeci> :)
[17:50] <ardchoille> kobzeci: np :)
[17:50] <tei> I can get to system settings
[17:50] <JoshOvki> ok, clock Keyboard & Mouse
[17:50] <JoshOvki> *click
[17:50] <tei> k
[17:51] <JoshOvki> Find  Walk Through  Windows
[17:51] <Vermux> who can help me? I want to test my computer. it was freezing with windows. now, after I installed kubuntu it didnt freeze yet. I want to test the computer- to put some pressure to test its ability
[17:51] <tei> ? under keyboard and mouse?
[17:52] <JoshOvki> sorry, under Keyboard Shortcuts
[17:52] <tei> k
[17:52] <tei> it says alt+tab
[17:52] <JoshOvki> hmmm
[17:52] <se7en> what do you want to do Vermux
[17:52] <tei> it works
[17:52] <tei> it just doesn't show me the options
[17:53] <tei> which makes it very hard to scroll though the windows
[17:53] <tei> does that make sense?
[17:53] <JoshOvki> whats the shortcut scheme set to?
[17:54] <tei> when I hit alt+tab, it just jumps right to the next window... if I hold alt and hit it again, it goes on to the next window... but with 10+ windows open, and no idea of the order it's going to scroll in
[17:54] <tei> it's set to KDE default for 4 modifier keys
[17:54] <Kamilov> hi all
[17:54] <JoshOvki> try that as kde defult for 4 modifer keys, just to see what appens
[17:55] <Kamilov> Can I ask a question ?
[17:55] <se7en> mount.cifs is part of the samba Vermux
[17:55] <Vermux> se7en: I want to have my computer work hard, raise the system load. The reason is that I suspect that something is not good with the hardware as I stated that when running windows my computer froze several times
[17:55] <se7en> !ask | Kamilov
[17:55] <ubotu> Kamilov: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:55] <tei> hrm... interesting
[17:55] <JoshOvki> ?
[17:56] <tei> when I try to reset the shortcuts
[17:56] <tei> it registers the super key
[17:56] <JoshOvki> hmmm
[17:56] <Vermux> se7en: now, after I installed kubuntu(dual boot with windows) I want to check the hardware. (so far the computer didnt freeze with kubuntu
[17:56] <tei> but the second I hit another key (r in this case) it just does that key, not the combo
[17:56] <JoshOvki> hmmm
[17:56] <se7en> and why do you need mount.cifs for that
[17:57] <JoshOvki> what did superkey - r  do for you before?
[17:57] <se7en> Vermux: http://linux.die.net/man/8/mount.cifs
[17:57] <Kamilov> OK, well I've got the problem with folder sharing. In Dolphin/Konqueror using Share tab. It's written: You need to be authorized to share folders. I can click on "configure folder sharing" button, then it asks me for root password, and  nothing happens
[17:57] <tei> same thing as alt +f2... opened up the run dialog
[17:57] <tei> super e opened konqueror
[17:58] <tei> etc
[17:58] <Vermux> se7en: the reason for that is that a friend of mine tryied me to get a big file from hi (mpeg2) and told me to try to convert it to mpeg4 (in this way the computer will work hard
[17:58] <tei> basically, I was just mapping over the normal windows keyboard shortcuts
[17:58] <Vermux> se7en: and I tried to get the file using samba
[17:59] <JoshOvki> ah kk, so its lost them all
[17:59] <tei> more than that...
[17:59] <tei> it won't let me re-add them
[17:59] <JoshOvki> ah
[17:59] <Vermux> se7en: I was trying this command: mount -t smbfs username or mount -t cifs username
[17:59] <tei> I can set the shortcut to R, but not windows + r
[17:59] <tei> I thought it wasn't registering the windows key
[18:00] <tei> but it looks like it was, it just won't let me do windows key combo's
[18:00] <JoshOvki> hmmm
[18:00] <JoshOvki> i just gotta head to lunch
[18:00] <tei> k, thanks for trying
[18:00] <JoshOvki> i shall be back as soon as i can
[18:00] <se7en> Vermux: use dolphin or konqueror
[18:00] <se7en> !samba
[18:00] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[18:01] <se7en> or read about samba
[18:01] <Vermux> se7en: ok, since it is too early for me to learn samba in this point, maybe u have an idea how to test the system
[18:01] <tei> I thought it was reccomended to use cifs instead of samba nowadays?
[18:01] <tei> I use cifs for my network shares and it works fine... samba crapped out all over the place for me
[18:08] <kobzeci> i just checked ati web site and the have a new driver 8.452 launched today 64bit http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/linux64-radeon.html how long will it take to packegae it and announce :)
[18:15] <acidBURN> bug with konqueror (flashplugin)
[18:17] <Vermux> who can help me
[18:18] <sigma_1234> how do you set the ip address of a computer via the command line?
[18:18] <Vermux> I would like to use badblocks to check the harddrive
[18:18] <sigma_1234> or manually?
[18:18] <Chrononaut> sigma_1234: ifconfig
[18:18] <emilsedgh> sigma_1234: ifconfig
[18:19] <emilsedgh> sigma_1234: ifconfig etch0 IPAdress
[18:19] <slow-motion> hi
[18:19] <LamerMan> one another question, i created a user and now it can't use kppp (it does not have enough rights). member of what group should i make that user to make it possible for him to use kppp?
[18:19] <oscar_> Hi! Can somebody help me with a problem?
[18:19] <sigma_1234> thanks guys
[18:19] <acidBURN> anyone make a package .deb for firefox 3 beta 3 tks
[18:20] <emilsedgh> !ask | oscar_
[18:20] <ubotu> oscar_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:20] <LamerMan> kppp is a program to connect to the internet via modem
[18:21] <oscar_> I installed kubuntu 7.10, Now i am strangely running a dist upgrade to 7.10 (wtf?), now, after dl'ing the files, it doesnt install, it has freezed...what can i do?
[18:21] <Vermux> oscar_: I had the same problem
[18:22] <Vermux> got to go though
[18:22] <oscar_> :(
[18:22] <oscar_> did u solve it?
[18:22] <oscar_> pls tell how
[18:22] <Vermux> just install it
[18:22] <sigma_1234> dont do the upgrade perhaps?
[18:23] <oscar_> but it has freezed. it has been on 0 % installing for 20 min now
[18:23] <Vermux> do dpkg --configure -a
[18:23] <oscar_> if i try to close it, kubuntu says my os will be damaged
[18:25] <oscar_> can i just close it?
[18:26] <oscar_> now i did.
[18:26] <oscar_> =)
[18:26] <sigma_1234> why dont you just reinstall kubuntu? and not run the upgrade?
[18:27] <dandielionous> I am having trouble getting a web page to print out correctly for my job.  The techy wrote it in perl for ie explorer.  Any suggestions?\
[18:27] <oscar_> i have reinstalled kubuntu like 5 times in two days beacouse of a bug in the graphics....dont want to do it again. this was first time this upgrade shit came up
[18:28] <sigma_1234> well theres the problem right there
[18:28] <dandielionous> I am trying to use kubuntu on my job.  I keep telling everyone how great linux is then can't get it to work correctly.
[18:28] <sigma_1234> you should disable updates
[18:28] <JoshOvki> hey
[18:30] <dandielionous> I can find the editor for kubuntu on my puter at home.  I can't find it on my browser here at work.  I suppose it updated and I wasn't aware of it.
[18:30] <dandielionous> I'm trying to change the default profile so I can print out those html perl scripted web pages correctly. ;)
[18:30] <JoshOvki> through command line?
[18:31] <JoshOvki> or not?
[18:31] <dandielionous> No I was using the gui for konquerer
[18:31] <JoshOvki> kk
[18:31] <dandielionous> Still pretty new to kubuntu and linux in general.
[18:32] <dandielionous> I hate to copy and paste everything into open office.
[18:32] <dandielionous> It prints it out perfectly.
[18:32] <JoshOvki> do you know how to change the application to open the files with?
[18:32] <blackflag> since I did a upgrade to KDE 4.0 I dont have sound with kaffeine and amarok
[18:32] <blackflag> what is wrong ?
[18:32] <blackflag> can someone help?
[18:32] <dandielionous> What do you mean/
[18:33] <dandielionous> ?
[18:33] <dandielionous> I know how to read help files. lol
[18:34] <dandielionous> Last night at home I was working with it and it said about the editor that was incorporated into konquer.
[18:34] <dandielionous> Now I can't find that editor.
[18:34] <dandielionous> It had on there where I could change from a normal profile to a printer profile.
[18:34] <dandielionous> There I could change the default language for printing out web pages.
[18:35] <JoshOvki> click the   K (start) > run command   type   kwrite    is that the program you are looking for?
[18:35] <dandielionous> Apparently when I change the fonts and colors for me to view it doesn't change how it prints.
[18:35] <JoshOvki> arg im confused :P
[18:35] <dandielionous> Are kwrite settings the ones that konqueror uses to print out web pages?
[18:36] <dandielionous> You know the css stylings for me to display web pages with?
[18:36] <dandielionous> I changed those to use my settings but it doesn't affect how it prints out. sigh
[18:36] <dandielionous> Is kwrite the editor incorporated into konqueror?
[18:37] <dandielionous> That would make a lot of sense.
[18:37] <JoshOvki> kwrite is the default editor for kde
[18:37] <WinstonSmith> don't forget Kate
[18:37] <dandielionous> Okay ty JoshOvki :) I will try that.  I feel a light bulb went off.
[18:37] <dandielionous> What about kate?
[18:37] <jussi01> !info kate
[18:37] <ubotu> kate: advanced text editor for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2.1 (gutsy), package size 798 kB, installed size 2248 kB
[18:38] <dandielionous> Okay but does Konqueror use kate for printing out web pages?
[18:38] <dandielionous> I have web based forms I have to print out at work.
[18:38] <JoshOvki> ok, so your looking for printing out the page not the code?
[18:39] <arrrghhh> so how do you change repos in kubuntu?
[18:39] <dandielionous> Right printing out the page the way I see it.
[18:39] <JoshOvki> ok
[18:39] <arrrghhh> in ubuntu i was easy, i could even let synaptic select the 'best' server
[18:39] <dandielionous> repos?
[18:39] <dandielionous> It's displaying fine.
[18:39] <JoshOvki> cant you just open it in konqueror and select   Location > Print?
[18:39] <dandielionous> But when I do CTRL + P it prints all different fonts.
[18:39] <kye> what's the unix command to move everything in one folder to another? mv * /home/path/
[18:39] <arrrghhh> the main repo is giving me a 403 forbidden error when i try to update with adept
[18:39] <dandielionous> mmmm let me check that
[18:40] <JoshOvki> then in the print window in HTML settings untick printer friendly mode
[18:40] <dandielionous> Yeah I can go location > print but it still does the same thing.
[18:41] <dandielionous> untick printer friendly mode?
[18:41] <JoshOvki> yes
[18:41] <dandielionous> kk let me check that
[18:41] <JoshOvki> cp -R /source/folder /new/path
[18:41] <arrrghhh> so is there a way in kubuntu to change repos from a list?  synaptic made it really easy, had a big list of official repos to select from
[18:41] <JoshOvki> then rm -R /source/folder    (carefull with the seccond command)
[18:42] <dandielionous> I think we may be on to something here.
[18:43] <dandielionous> Is that rm -R/source/folder for me, JoshOvki?
[18:43] <JoshOvki> no
[18:43] <JoshOvki> no kye
[18:43] <JoshOvki> *for
[18:43] <dandielionous> kk ty :)
[18:43] <dandielionous> Going to see what happens with the printer friendly mode.
[18:43] <dandielionous> Exactly what does that effect?
[18:43] <dandielionous> Do you know?
[18:44] <llp78> hi k3b wont let me burn audio cd's.. the files are already in *.wav format but everytime errors and wont actually start to record
[18:44] <JoshOvki> dandielionous that makes all text black no no background image
[18:44] <arrrghhh> i don't want to use archive.canocial.com for my repo, when i try to update with adept i get a 403 forbidden error on the xserver-xorg-core packge update
[18:44] <arrrghhh> llp78: what's the error
[18:44] <dandielionous> Okay I found system settings for printing also :)
[18:44] <dandielionous> Going to play with this a bit. :)
[18:44] <jussi01> !xbug | arrrghhh
[18:44] <ubotu> arrrghhh: The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[18:44] <dandielionous> Thank-you so much JoshOvki :)
[18:45] <JoshOvki> no problem dandielionous
[18:45] <dandielionous> I shall return and let you know if I succeed. :)
[18:45] <llp78> arrrghhh: something like "cd recorder does not like the medium", but ive tried several makes of cdr and still the same error
[18:45] <arrrghhh> oh
[18:45] <jussi01> arrrghhh: :)
[18:45] <arrrghhh> jussi01: thanks
[18:45] <jussi01> arrrghhh: np's
[18:45] <arrrghhh> my dad just converted to linux, and he was freakin out from these updates not working... and when i tried to update i noticed the same thing lol
[18:46] <llp78> arrrghhh: do i need an audio lib file or anything extra than the k3b burning app?
[18:46] <jussi01> arrrghhh: there is usually a good explanation
[18:46] <ibou_> is it normal that when i click on a .deb hyperlink like this one http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/ubuntu/envy_0.9.9-0ubuntu6_all.deb on konqueror i open kate instead of gdebi ?
[18:46] <arrrghhh> llp78: try a different disc, make sure cd is blank, etc
[18:46] <jussi01> !envy | ibou_:
[18:46] <ubotu> ibou_:: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[18:46] <llp78> arrrghhh: tried loads of blank cdr's different makes etc
[18:46] <JoshOvki> is a seperate plugin for wavs?
[18:46] <arrrghhh> jussi01: yea, i just wanted to know what it was, adept just said "there was a problem updating some packages, couldn't make docmmit, etc."
[18:47] <arrrghhh> llp78: and you can burn other things?  like data?
[18:47] <niall> yeah
[18:47] <niall> my update just failed also
[18:47] <llp78> arrrghhh i can burn dvd's and data yep
[18:47] <niall> I tried to fix it using apt
[18:47] <JoshOvki> my failed earlier
[18:47] <arrrghhh> hrm
[18:47] <niall> but it didn't work
[18:47] <jussi01> niall: dont...
[18:47] <jussi01> it will be fixed soon
[18:47] <niall> 'Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_amd64.deb  403 Forbidden'
[18:47] <niall> :<
[18:47] <arrrghhh> llp78: that's strange... can you burn mp3's?
[18:47] <llp78> arrrghhh as data yep
[18:47] <arrrghhh> but not as audio
[18:48] <arrrghhh> like letting k3b convert it to an audio cd doesn't work
[18:48] <llp78> arrrghhh: you got it
[18:48] <arrrghhh> very strange
[18:48] <arrrghhh> you've stumped me, i've never had a problem like that with k3b
[18:48] <ibou_> jussi01: my hyperlink is just an example
[18:48] <llp78> arrrghhh: i converted to *.wav using lame
[18:48] <ibou_> is it normal that when i click on a .deb hyperlink like this one http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/ubuntu/envy_0.9.9-0ubuntu6_all.deb on konqueror i open kate instead of gdebi ?
[18:48] <arrrghhh> llp78: what about letting k3b convert it
[18:48] <arrrghhh> k3b will convert it on the fly for you
[18:48] <llp78> arrrghhh: same error
[18:48] <arrrghhh> hrm
[18:48] <jussi01> !repeat > ibou_
[18:48] <arrrghhh> yea i'm outta ideas
[18:48] <whiteda> fyi #ubuntu topic says -  Security repository is currently broken, stay tuned for a fix
[18:49] <jussi01> ibou_: that happens for me too
[18:49] <arrrghhh> ibou_: we've told you what you need to do.  quit using envy.
[18:49] <whiteda> thats the reason for the update errors
[18:49] <niall> I see
[18:49] <ibou_> arrrghhh: i dont use envy
[18:49] <jatz> hey, quick question
[18:49] <JoshOvki> its quite confusing so many help topics at once
[18:49] <arrrghhh> ibou_: that's an envy script you're linkin to
[18:49] <jussi01> ibou_: please use a different example then
[18:49] <JoshOvki> jatz fire away
[18:49] <llp78> arrrghhh: cheers for your input,, gonna try the terminal to burn a single Wav
[18:50] <ibou_> arrrghhh: yes but that's not the point
[18:50] <jatz> I've got my 500gb external usb/firewire hd in ext2 now
[18:50] <ibou_> the point is that that example of link open kate
[18:50] <JoshOvki> lip othing option is use a different burner
[18:50] <jussi01> !nickspam > muza__
[18:50] <JoshOvki> ok jatz whats the problem?
[18:50] <jatz> JoshOvki: but now, it says 435.1 GB out of 458.4GB (6% used)
[18:50] <jussi01> ibou_: just right click, then download it, then open it
[18:51] <JoshOvki> might have a partition?
[18:51] <jatz> well,
[18:51] <jatz> I did fdisk /dev/sdb
[18:51] <jatz> checked the partition table
[18:52] <jatz> only one there.
[18:52] <jatz>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[18:53] <arrrghhh> ibou_: no that is the point.  use the restricted drivers manager, works like a charm
[18:53] <grul> http://www.kongregate.com/games/HeroInteractive/stormwinds-1-5
[18:53] <jatz>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[18:53] <jatz>  /dev/sdb1               1       60801   488384001   83  Linux
[18:53] <Kamilov> hi
[18:54] <JoshOvki> hmmm
[18:54] <larry> My new 500GB usb2 drive, mounted as /dev/sde1, spins-down after some minutes.  When I then try to read or write to it, I get io errors.  I have read the HOWTOs I though applicable.  I think the kernel mod usb_storage may affect settings, but don't know where to read about it.  Help?
[18:55] <Kamilov> I've got the problem with local network - none of computers in my workgroup can access my computer (I can't even target self), getting NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED
[18:55] <blizzzek> hi
[18:55] <jussi01> !hi
[18:55] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[18:56] <JoshOvki> jatz just had a quick look online, and it appears about 5 - 6% is automaticaly grabbed for root
[18:57] <jatz> ah, thanks a lot.
[18:57] <jatz> what do you mean by that, though? just curious now.
[18:58] <JoshOvki> i like ext3 does it for root,   Ext2 also reserves 5% of the drive space for "runtime processes."
[18:58] <Jckf> After I used manual config for my wireless card, knetwork manager won't automatically detect networks anymore. How can I reset it?
[18:58] <frojnd> is someone here willing to help me out configure codecs ? I missed something up and now I can't watch divx, mpeg, all kind of movies in fullscreen mode. If I do full screen picture is made by big squares.. Can someone help me out clean the codecs ??
[18:58] <JoshOvki> sudo tune2fs -m 0 /dev/xxx    is supposed to remove it, take a look here >    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649188
[18:58] <jatz> JoshOvki: so wait, it'll steal another 5% on top of the 6%? or am I misreading you.
[18:59] <jatz> okay
[18:59] <jatz> thanks much
[18:59] <thewhitepelican> it appears kde4 games is borked
[18:59] <thewhitepelican> how long till it's fixed?
[18:59] <JoshOvki> jatz let me know if it works ok
[18:59] <jatz> I will.
[19:00] <JoshOvki> jckf i had the same problem a while ago and i wasnt able to find a solution apart from re-installing. someone might have a solution here tho
[19:01] <jatz> JoshOvki: I'm gonna try it now. I'm guessing /dev/xxx would be the device. and is getting rid of the runtime space dangerous at all?
[19:01] <jatz> cause this is an external disk, just using it to store videos and such.
[19:02] <larry> jatz: It might ruin whether fsck works correctly.
[19:02] <JoshOvki> jatz: is your kubuntu install on it or is that on a different drive?
[19:02] <jatz> should I use /dev/sdb or sdb1 for tune2fs
[19:02] <jatz> JoshOvki: different drive
[19:03] <tlayton> hey all. i found this comment in the netbeans start script.  "Ubuntu uses the ancient Bourne shell, which does not implement trap well."  is there a better alternative?
[19:03] <JoshOvki> sdb i think as that means the whole driive, not a specific partition
[19:03] <JoshOvki> but before oyu do
[19:03] <JoshOvki> is there anything on the drive?
[19:03] <jatz> not a thing
[19:03] <ForgeAus> shells? theres heaps
[19:03] <JoshOvki> thats ok then, you can reformat it if it goes wrong. Not that i expect it to
[19:04] <jatz> alright
[19:04] <JoshOvki> gl
[19:04] <jatz> hm
[19:04] <jatz> can't find valid filesystem superblock
[19:04] <jatz> so I'm guessing it wants sdb1
[19:04] <larry> My new 500GB usb2 drive, mounted as /dev/sde1, spins-down after some minutes.  When I then try to read or write to it, I get io errors.  I have read the HOWTOs I though applicable.  I think the kernel mod usb_storage may affect settings, but don't know where to read about it.  Help?
[19:04] <shadow255> I'm having issues with an update that became available today (Feisty)
[19:04] <jatz> since that's the parition
[19:04] <JoshOvki> yeh gotta be worth a go
[19:04] <tlayton> ForgeAus: what about dash?
[19:04] <shadow255> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb  403 Forbidden
[19:04] <ForgeAus> c or tc shell  bourne again shell, zsh, (I think ubuntu actually uses dash instead of bash or something)... not sure about pdksh
[19:05] <jpatrick> !xbug | shadow255
[19:05] <ubotu> shadow255: The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[19:05] <shadow255> jpatrick: thanks
[19:05] <jatz> JoshOvki: it's a go
[19:05] <JoshOvki> cool
[19:05] <jatz> 4584. GB out of 458.4 GB.
[19:06] <thewhitepelican> ubotu, is that a possible reason for kde4games to be broken?
[19:06] <ForgeAus> I'm sure I've heard of a perlshell before from somewhere, not sure if its one of the big ones
[19:06] <JoshOvki> jatz is that what it says or did you type it wrong?
[19:06] <jatz> JoshOvki: woops, yeah, typo there
[19:06] <jatz>  >_>
[19:07] <JoshOvki> thats good to know :) i was a bit confused then, i thought you had managed   10x  your disk space
[19:07] <JoshOvki> and you have no plans to use that drive with windows correct?
[19:10] <frojnd> what's the name of package that installs codecs for avi movies ?
[19:10] <frojnd> and please don't give me the codecs link
[19:11] <jussi01> kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:11] <jpatrick> !info libxine1-ffmpeg
[19:11] <ubotu> libxine1-ffmpeg: mpeg related plugins for libxine1. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 435 kB, installed size 908 kB
[19:13] <Jckf> JoshOvki: Clearing everything related to said interface from /etc/network/interfaces helped me =)
[19:13] <JoshOvki> ah cool, i will keep that in mind, Thanks jckf, you will save me a reinstall next time i screw up my networking :P
[19:15] <Jckf> I still can't connect with knetworkmanager though. It shows the networks and allow me to try, but it doesn't connect. It shows a message saying that it is configuring the interface, then nothing happens.
[19:15] <Jckf> *allows
[19:16] <JoshOvki> hmmm
[19:16] <JoshOvki> in knetwork is it set to roaming?
[19:16] <Jckf> Where can I check that?
[19:16] <JoshOvki> that might be gnome one acctualy
[19:17] <JoshOvki> i would look on mine but i dont want to screw up my network :P again
[19:17] <Jckf> x)
[19:18] <JoshOvki> in terminal if you hit     iwconfig    what displays
[19:18] <sui> hi
[19:18] <JoshOvki> for   mode?
[19:18] <JoshOvki> hi sui
[19:18] <Jckf> Managed
[19:19] <JoshOvki> and EESID?
[19:19] <Jckf> No such thing, since its not connected.
[19:20] <JoshOvki> kk. where you able to connect before you tryed the manual route?
[19:20] <Jckf> No
[19:20] <JoshOvki> ok
[19:20] <JoshOvki> does ur router have any security
[19:20] <JoshOvki> mac filtering, WAP / WEP?
[19:20] <Jckf> WEP
[19:20] <JoshOvki> does anything popup asking you for the WEP addess?
[19:20] <JoshOvki> *key
[19:21] <Jckf> Yes. And I'm entering the correct one.
[19:21] <JoshOvki> ok
[19:21] <JoshOvki> could you dissable it temporeroly?
[19:21] <JoshOvki> or dont you have that much access to it?
[19:22] <Jckf> I do, but that would leave me disconnected from the internet for a while since I'll have to do it with two routers. Running WDS here
[19:22] <frojnd> what's the name of package that installs codecs for avi movies ? anypne ?
[19:22] <omega_> Hi there.
[19:22] <omega_> I suddenly found that I can no longer ssh into my machine. I get the error; no buffer space available.
[19:23] <JoshOvki> libavifile-0.7c2     ?
[19:23] <Strangelet> My computer typically boots up into GNOME but logs in to KDE, how do I set it is a Kubuntu interface all the way?
[19:23] <omega_> Does anyone know how to fix this? I did some googling, but there doesn't seem to be much info on the error that, or I didn't understand what people were talking about.
[19:23] <sui> got a question about knetworkmanager and my wireless connection: after my last update I can't get any wireless connection. it's a ipw2200 chipset and the module loads without error. with iwlist eth1 scan I get a list of networks around. but with knetworkmanager it's not possible to get onlne and I can't change settings manually because iwpriv tells me taht it does not understand "set" (iwpriv set AuthMode=WPAPSK
[19:23] <sui> so... what can I do? reinstall?
[19:24] <zizzfizzix> w32codec?
[19:24] <zizzfizzix> frojnd^
[19:24] <frojnd> zizzfizzix, yes?
[19:24] <zizzfizzix> i think so
[19:24] <frojnd> I mean zizzfizzix yes
[19:24] <niall> gmail doesn't seem to work in konquerer
[19:24] <frojnd> zizzfizzix, also the standars codecs
[19:25] <niall> it never gets past the Loading... page
[19:25] <zizzfizzix> frojnd: which one?
[19:25] <smeril> i am looking for the command touse for skin change i have already downloaded a skin and i want to install and use it
[19:25] <JoshOvki> konquerer is odd with gmail because of the javascript i belive
[19:25] <frojnd> zizzfizzix, I know there is a package
[19:26] <JoshOvki> jckf  disabling the WEP is just a way of testing if its a security thing causing the problem
[19:26] <sui> smeril: take a look at kcontrol
[19:26] <smeril> thanks
[19:26] <zizzfizzix> frojnd but?
[19:26] <JoshOvki> dein terminal run    apt-cache search avi plugin
[19:26] <zizzfizzix> frojnd: then what do u want?
[19:26] <JoshOvki> sorry, i mean frojnd
[19:27] <smeril> thank you it works
[19:27] <frojnd> zizzfizzix, multimeda something restricted
[19:28] <JoshOvki> frojnd you dont need   avifile-divx-plugin  do you?
[19:28] <frojnd> JoshOvki,  no
[19:29] <frojnd> JoshOvki,  I need somethin multimedia or what's the name, I can't recall it
[19:29] <zizzfizzix> frojnd, libavcodec?
[19:30] <Strangelet> My computer typically boots up into GNOME but logs in to KDE, how do I set it is a Kubuntu interface all the way?\
[19:30] <frojnd> zizzfizzix, can you pvt me and type me all the package names that you remeber ?
[19:30] <zizzfizzix> cant you just type in search field in adept/synaptic codec?
[19:31] <zizzfizzix> frojnd i mean^
[19:32] <frojnd> zizzfizzix, is there any "global" name for most of those codecs ?
[19:32] <frojnd> for a package
[19:32] <zizzfizzix> their names are different
[19:32] <zizzfizzix> so better search in adept/synaptic
[19:33] <JoshOvki> Strangelet  run       sudo dpkg-reconfigure      in termial
[19:33] <JoshOvki> oops sorry
[19:34] <JoshOvki> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[19:34] <Strangelet> JoshOvki: Heh, thanks :)
[19:34] <zizzfizzix> frojnd, and in w32codecs there are many different codecs
[19:34] <Strangelet> JoshOvki: woww, a lot easier than I expected. XD
[19:34] <flipmode> I cant get my dvd player to work right kubuntu 7.04
[19:34] <JoshOvki> it worked then? :)
[19:35] <JoshOvki> flipmode whats it doing / not doing?
[19:35] <flipmode> k3b says dma disabled how do i fix this?
[19:35] <ForgeAus> how do you configure /eth0 outside of X?
[19:35] <ForgeAus> apt-get wasn't finding/installing packages
[19:36] <JoshOvki> ForgeAus   in terminal run     man ifconfig    and read that
[19:36] <ForgeAus> (even though I managed to fix the package that was causing me headaches I couldn't download new ones or replacement ones for stuff I lost when I lost my /etc
[19:36] <ForgeAus> ok thanx Josh :)
[19:36] <flipmode> JoshOvki: sometimes it will play but it makes everything really choppy
[19:36] <zizzfizzix> anyone know how can i run restricted-manager-kde?
[19:37] <zizzfizzix> it tells me that i need linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-server
[19:37] <zizzfizzix> but i cant install this:/
[19:38] <JoshOvki> flipmode what are you using to play them?
[19:38] <blue|palm> How do I get flash to work in konqueror? (What is required?)
[19:38] <frojnd> this is insane..
[19:38] <frojnd> my full screen won't work properly
[19:38] <jussi01> !flash | blue|palm
[19:38] <ubotu> blue|palm: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:38] <frojnd> I see squares..
[19:38] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[19:38] <frojnd> :S
[19:38] <ForgeAus> I don't think flash is meant to work in konqui
[19:38] <ForgeAus> I could be wrong tho
[19:39] <flipmode> JoshOvki: I have tried totem kaffeine and m player
[19:39] <JoshOvki> zizzfizzix in terminal run  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-server      see what happens
[19:39] <JoshOvki> flipmode  try    vlc
[19:39] <ForgeAus> blue I'd recommend you use firefox for flash
[19:39] <flipmode> JoshOvki: I have also tried vlc
[19:40] <blue|palm> ForgeAus, I'm on kde4 so I'm just messing around really, but thanks for the heads up... I guess its problematic?
[19:40] <JoshOvki> hmmm
[19:40] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki, told you:  Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-server
[19:40] <JoshOvki> flipmode  what spec is your pc
[19:40] <JoshOvki> just checking zizzfizzix
[19:40] <flipmode> JoshOvki: It is a p4 1.5 ghz 768mb ram
[19:41] <JoshOvki> in that case zizzfizzix try      sudo apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules
[19:41] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki, do you know how to obtain it?
[19:41] <JoshOvki> flipmode: so its a decent machine then
[19:41] <flipmode> JoshOvki: Yes
[19:42] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki, there are few packages but no interesting
[19:42] <zizzfizzix> not*
[19:42] <JoshOvki> flipmode: hmmmmm, if the file is on your machine is it any better?
[19:42] <flipmode> JoshOvki: in storage media it shows a folder for the drive?
[19:42] <zizzfizzix> instead server there is ie. generic, xen etc
[19:43] <flipmode> JoshOvki: what do you mean
[19:43] <JoshOvki> zizzfizzix: what repositiorys have you got?
[19:43] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki, that is the question..
[19:43] <JoshOvki> flipmode: if you try playing a video file from your pc rather than from DVD is it any better?
[19:43] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki, many
[19:44] <flipmode> JoshOvki: I havnt tried give me a minute ill try
[19:44] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki, should i show u my sources.list?
[19:44] <JoshOvki> yeh ok
[19:45] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki, yes?
[19:45] <JoshOvki> zizzfizzix: yes please
[19:45] <Vermux> who knows how to use badblocks?
[19:46] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki, here? i think its too long
[19:46] <steinerhippo> hi @ all, does anybody know, how to change a pdf icon, because every time after a change either in kcontrol or in the properties of a pdf file, the netscape icon is shown again, and in kcontrol under embed, there is nsplugin, wich always comes again after i removed it -.-
[19:46] <flipmode> JoshOvki: I tried a video from youtube and it is working fine
[19:46] <JoshOvki> can u send it to me as a file, or upload it to  pastefile
[19:46] <JoshOvki> zizzfizzix ^^
[19:47] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki, wait a sec
[19:47] <JoshOvki> flipmode,  does it only have problems in full screen or just any size?
[19:48] <flipmode> JoshOvki: Any size
[19:48] <JoshOvki> even odder
[19:48] <jckl> i am tring to compile the newest kernel and getting an eror
[19:48] <jckl> error*
[19:48] <jckl> In file included from scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:24:
[19:48] <jckl> scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:32:20: error: curses.h: No such file or directory
[19:49] <jckl> i have all the ncurses packages i could find installed
[19:49] <stdin> !kernel
[19:49] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[19:49] <Vermux> who can help with badblocks?
[19:49] <JoshOvki> flipmode: you in gutsy?
[19:49] <Vermux> www.hotmail.com
[19:49] <jckl> i know i dont need to compile it.. i could upgrade or whatever but this is a clean install i want to learn on ;)
[19:50] <Vermux> sorry.. who can help with badblocks?
[19:50] <stdin> jckl: the 2nd link ;)
[19:50] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki, accept please :)
[19:51] <JoshOvki> zizz i would ig i had any where to accept to :S
[19:51] <jckl> thanks
[19:51] <zizzfizzix> hymm
[19:52] <flipmode> JoshOvki: I dont think so i really dont remember how can i find out
[19:52] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki, got acceptance question?
[19:52] <Vermux> how do I delete an address in the address bar without selecting the text?
[19:53] <JoshOvki> zizzfizzix:  no i didnt
[19:53] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki, rapid can be?
[19:54] <JoshOvki> zizzfizzix  pardon?:S
[19:55] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki: rapidshare.com
[19:55] <JoshOvki> flipmode: you know what version you are,  6.x  7.x  etc?
[19:55] <JoshOvki> zizzfizzix: yeh that will be ok
[19:55] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki: http://rapidshare.com/files/84839491/source.txt.html
[19:56] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki: please tell when u get this
[19:57] <ubunturos> why am I getting 403 for an apt-get upgrade (even with --fix-missing)
[19:57] <flipmode> JoshOvki: It tells me there is a version upgrade I thought it was 7.04?
[19:57] <ubunturos> (a security update is available) (dapper)
[19:57] <JoshOvki> brb all
[19:58] <jckl> stdin: i am still getting the same error
[19:59] <NickPresta> ubunturos, we're all getting it. I would assume an update for that package or fix is coming very soon.
[19:59] <JoshOvki> flipmode: Do you have compiz installed?
[19:59] <ubunturos> NickPresta: hmm, ok.
[20:00] <flipmode> JoshOvki: ???
[20:00] <jpatrick> !xbug
[20:00] <ubotu> The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, which is why you currently get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[20:00] <NickPresta> thanks, jpatrick
[20:00] <zizzfizzix>  JoshOvki: can u write to me email when you'll find out whats about whit my repo list?
[20:00] <ubunturos> omg java :(
[20:00] <stdin> jckl: do you have libncurses5-dev ?
[20:00] <jckl> aw
[20:00] <jpatrick> NickPresta: you're welcome
[20:01] <JoshOvki> zizzfizzix: it looks pretty simular to mine, u got everything enabled that i have
[20:01] <flipmode> JoshOvki: i am installing now
[20:01] <JoshOvki> i didnt want it installed, i was just making sure that u didnt :P
[20:01] <JoshOvki> so remove it when it finishes
[20:01] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki: and u have this package?
[20:02] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki; in repo i mean
[20:02] <JoshOvki> zizzfizzix:  can you run   uname -r  and post me the result
[20:02] <jckl> is there a way i can build all the dev packages?
[20:02] <flipmode> JoshOvki: what will that do?
[20:02] <jckl> or all the important ones
[20:02] <JoshOvki> its something that does funky desktop effects
[20:02] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki: 2.6.22-14-server
[20:02] <JoshOvki> although have been known to cause jumpy videos
[20:03] <stdin> jckl: I'd try "sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r)" for a start
[20:03] <Black_Monkey> !apt-fix
[20:03] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:03] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki: my kernel is bad?
[20:04] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki: maybe i should change it?
[20:04] <JoshOvki> zizzfizzix: no, i was just checking something
[20:04] <JoshOvki> most people have genearl
[20:04] <JoshOvki> general*
[20:04] <zizzfizzix> then what should i do?
[20:04] <zizzfizzix> :]
[20:04] <jckl> i did sudo apt-get build-dep linux-source-2.6.23    also that package fixed my prob
[20:04] <jckl> thanks
[20:04] <val0> tried to update my system this morning using adept installer. it updated all but 1 package. X.org, fails with the same error every time "Cannot commit changes. Problem downloading or the commit would break package" when tried to update manually (apt-get update/upgrade) I get Failed to Fetch, 403 forbidden. Any ideas?
[20:05] <JoshOvki> i dont think that the restricted modules are available for  the server version
[20:05] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki: sholud i change this version?
[20:05] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki: and how?
[20:05] <zizzfizzix> :]
[20:06] <sui> how can i reinstall the wireless stack? i meam all packages belonging to ieee80211 and kernelmodules and avahi network management?
[20:07] <zizzfizzix> JoshOvki: ok i must go, anyway thank u for your help
[20:07] <zizzfizzix> bye
[20:07] <JoshOvki> bah i just had a sollution for him aswell
[20:07] <flipmode> JoshOvki: so its still the same?
[20:09] <JoshOvki> flipmode do you have  libdvdcss2   installed?
[20:09] <JoshOvki> for DVD playback
[20:10] <andreas__> hello
[20:10] <andreas__> i have  a question
[20:10] <andreas__> how can i open a password protected rar file in linux?
[20:10] <JoshOvki> andreas: do you know the password to the file?
[20:11] <sui> *phew* just can"t get my wireless connection to work.
[20:11] <JoshOvki> sui what happens?
[20:12] <sui> JoshOvki: since my last update I don't get any wireless connection
[20:12] <JoshOvki> cant see the access point?
[20:13] <sui> JoshOvki: its a ipw2200 chipset and driver loads without errors, but knetworkmanager soes not give me any settings for wireless connections
[20:13] <flipmode> JoshOvki: Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[20:13] <flipmode> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[20:13] <flipmode> is only available from another source
[20:13] <flipmode> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[20:13] <sui> JoshOvki: I can see it with iwlist eth1 scan
[20:13] <jpatrick> !paste > flipmode
[20:14] <sui> flipmode: did you activate multiverse rpositories?
[20:15] <flipmode> sui: how do i do this?
[20:15] <jpatrick> !multiverse | flipmode
[20:15] <ubotu> flipmode: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[20:16] <sui> edit your /etc/apt/sources.list or use adept or any other package manager
[20:16] <sui> JoshOvki: do you have any suggestion for me?
[20:17] <JoshOvki> sui: im think
[20:17] <JoshOvki> (ing
[20:17] <JoshOvki> :P
[20:17] <sui> JoshOvki: I tried it manually, ith knetworkmanager and with wpa_supplicant
[20:17] <sui> +w
[20:17] <JoshOvki> have you tryed wifiradar?
[20:17] <JoshOvki> acctualy, its not called tjhat
[20:18] <sui> JoshOvki: it"s not installed. but i can giveit a try.
[20:18] <genii> back
[20:18] <JoshOvki> wifi-radar
[20:18] <sui> JoshOvki: firt I have to activate cable connection on the laptop
[20:19] <Strangelet> Hey, quick q., how do I find out what version of Kubuntu I have?
[20:19] <JoshOvki> sui: it is set to managed mode aswell isnt it?
[20:20] <NickPresta> Strangelet, in a Konsole, type: lsb_release -a
[20:20] <sui> JoshOvki: yes ist is
[20:20] <Strangelet> NickPresta: ah, thanks :)
[20:20] <sui> JoshOvki: but I will check this.. mom
[20:21] <JoshOvki> sui: okie dokie
[20:21] <Strangelet> NickPresta: Hm, it does say what version of KDE i have
[20:21] <genii> Strangelet: To find what dist: lsb_release -a           to see what kde version, rightclick Kmenu...Panel Menu...Help...About KDE
[20:22] <Strangelet> genii: oh! I see, tahnks :)
[20:22] <genii> Strangelet: np
[20:22] <Vermux> who can help with screen resolution?
[20:23] <Vermux> even though I changed the resolution in system settings it stays the same after I click "apply"
[20:24] <sui> JoshOvki: sry, can"t tell you exactly. my router does not give me any information about the mode it uses
[20:24] <JoshOvki> sui: in terminal run    iwconfig
[20:24] <JoshOvki> and look for mode
[20:25] <sui> JoshOvki: mode: managed
[20:25] <JoshOvki> ok
[20:25] <sui> eth1 unassociated ESSID:"sui"
[20:25] <JoshOvki> thats right
[20:25] <JoshOvki> is ur access point called sui?
[20:25] <Szaln> vermux, you need to restart the xserver, even the computer
[20:26] <Vermux> Szaln: but in my other computer I succeeding changing it without restarting it
[20:26] <sui> JoshOvki: iwconfig means Access-Point: Not-Associated
[20:26] <Szaln> be sure that you adjust the resolution as root and your user, to apply it to the login splash and your own desktop
[20:27] <Szaln> i don't know why, but it was the only way it works for me
[20:27] <Szaln> today i got my new lcd, and i did that way
[20:28] <zorglu_> q. i look for car game on kubuntu, what is available ?
[20:28] <Vermux> Szaln: ALSO WHEN i CHANGED IT WITH ADMINISTRATIVE MODE IT STAYS THE SAME
[20:29] <Szaln> yes, do it with and without admin privileges
[20:29] <Szaln> and then restart
[20:29] <JoshOvki> sui: whats in you   /etc/network/interfaces   ?
[20:29] <JoshOvki> *your
[20:30] <Vermux> Szaln: aaa, so I need to restart
[20:30] <achilles> hi so i just installed the mp3 codec using amarok it all works now flv mpeg mp3 ect ... but my lord of the rings dvd still won't play :( any help?
[20:30] <Vermux> ok, be right back
[20:30] <Szaln> yes, try that
[20:30] <sui> JoshOvki: auto eth1 <CR> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[20:30] <JoshOvki> eth1  your wifi device?
[20:30] <sui> JoshOvki: yes
[20:31] <JoshOvki> copy the file for backup and delete all the content
[20:31] <achilles> im downloading vlc player right now will that help?
[20:31] <sui> JoshOvki: as far as i can see is avahi responsible for network connections?
[20:31] <sui> ok, done
[20:32] <neville> VLC should work fine with it
[20:32] <JoshOvki> restart and see what happens
[20:32] <neville> Due to it probably installing the needed libraries while it itself is installing
[20:32] <achilles> ok thanks :) i was alittle worried
[20:33] <achilles> since im using dail up XD
[20:33] <neville> me too ^_^
[20:33] <neville> I just came out of 200Mb of updates for stuff, so ;/
[20:34] <achilles> wow lol
[20:34] <niall> is there a version of OOo which is better integrated with KDE?
[20:34] <sui> JoshOvki: * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                                     ifdown: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"
[20:34] <sui> [fail]
[20:34] <achilles> maybe try koffice?
[20:35] <niall> yeah
[20:35] <sui> JoshOvki: i did it with "/etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:35] <achilles> koffice is good too
[20:35] <niall> still a bit of a cop out though
[20:35] <genii> sui: Use sudo then you will have read rights to /etc/network/interfaces
[20:36] <jpatrick> niall: koffice2 will be great :D
[20:36] <sui> genii: id did sudo su -
[20:36] <niall> jpatrick: ya, I'm looking forward to that :}
[20:36] <achilles> :)
[20:36] <JoshOvki> i think a restart might be better for it, because  knetwork doesnt use the infaces file, thats why it needs to be empty stop it conflicting
[20:36] <niall> jpatrick: April will be great, with Kubuntu 8.04, KOffice 2, KDE4 :}
[20:36] <genii> sui: what says result of:  ls -l /etc/network/interfaces                             then?
[20:37] <achilles> omg awesome
[20:37] <jpatrick> niall: rock on!
[20:37] <achilles> ill have to download it:)
[20:37] <Vermux> I restarted my computer, but now my screen is screwed. I cant see nothing
[20:37] <Vermux> how do I change the resolution in text mode?
[20:37] <Vermux> I changed it to 800X600 and then rebooted
[20:38] <jpatrick> Vermux: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
 can you serf with web with konqueror using dail up?? cause i can not
[20:38] <niall> no idea, I'm not on dial up
[20:38] <sui> genii, JoshOvki: that was my fault, now i was able to restart
[20:38] <achilles> oh sorry i did you were using dial up lol
[20:38] <niall> I like Konquerer, the only problem I have with it is it gmail doesn't seem to work :(
[20:39] <Szaln> hi vermux, have a look at xorg.conf
[20:39] <achilles> oh;( yeah and for some reason i cant serf with it using dial up
[20:39] <emilsedgh> niall: KMail Rocks
[20:39] <sui> wth? with this empty interface-file knetworkmanager shows my wireless networks again
[20:40] <Vermux> jpatrick: it says it cannot recognize the driver
[20:40] <jpatrick> Vermux: never heard that one before... :(
[20:40] <sui> genii, JoshOvki: can anyone of you explain why this can happen?
[20:40] <Vermux> jpatrick: I have manually to choose the x server driver from a list now
[20:40] <niall> emilsedgh: while that maybe true, not being able to show your gmail in the browser is a bit weak
[20:40] <JoshOvki> yeh,  the interfaces file confilcts with  knetwork   for some reason
[20:40] <Vermux> Szwhat should I do?
[20:41] <Szaln> if there is any problem, choose VESA
[20:41] <JoshOvki> if its got stuff in there knetwork ignores that device all together it appears
[20:41] <emilsedgh> niall: use Plain HTML view, it works with Kubuntu right...
[20:41] <niall> when I log into gmail in konquerer it gets as far as the 'Loading...' screen then never passes it
[20:41] <Szaln> what driver did you use before the crash?
[20:42] <val0> does any1 have an idea why i get a 403 forbidden error while trying apt-get upgrade???
[20:42] <JoshOvki> niall use ff, konquerer has problems with the javascript
[20:42] <achilles> thats why firefox is the best:P
[20:43] <Vermux> Szaln: I have no idea
[20:43] <achilles> yeah ff ftw
[20:43] <Vermux> now it asks me "use kernel framebuffer device interface?"
[20:43] <sui> JoshOvki: but i still don"t get a lease by dhcp
[20:43] <niall> but firefox looks rubbish :(
[20:43] <LamerMan> when i try to upload something to USB MASS STORAGE, kubuntu uploads it much faster than the storage can work (that is like USB2.0 when the storage supports only 1.1), all the data that has been writen is corrupted. What could it be?
[20:43] <Vermux> Szaln: what happaned? I just restarted
[20:43] <achilles> lol
[20:44] <Vermux> Szaln: yes or no?
 have you used kde4?
[20:44] <niall> no
[20:44] <Szaln> bufffff this escapes from my hands
[20:44] <JoshOvki> sui: so you can see it but not get dhcp
[20:44] <JoshOvki> hmmm
[20:44] <sui> JoshOvki: avahi-autopid(eth1): Starting with address 169...
[20:44] <JoshOvki> val0:  remove it
[20:44] <Szaln> did you made any change to the driver?
[20:44] <JoshOvki> oops
[20:44] <JoshOvki> val0:  !xbug
[20:45] <Vermux> Szaln: ok, I dont know what to do now. need help
[20:45] <JoshOvki> !xbug
[20:45] <ubotu> The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, which is why you currently get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[20:45] <JoshOvki> ok, i cant run it
[20:45] <Vermux> Szaln: what happaned?
[20:45] <Szaln> i had problems with restricted manager in the past
[20:46] <JoshOvki> hmmmm
[20:46] <val0> JoshOvki so i shouldn't update it is what you are saying right?
[20:46] <Szaln> if you only changed the resolution......... maybe the card or display doesn't perform well in that resolution
[20:47] <achilles> i hope they include compiz fusion in kubuntus next release
[20:47] <Vermux> who can help me, I cant see anything on the screen. I did udo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:47] <Vermux> and now it asks me if to use kernel framebuffer device interface
[20:47] <JoshOvki> you can update all the other files, but the xorg one just wont update
[20:47] <niall> achilles: they won't
[20:47] <Vermux> Szaln: the question is what to do now?
[20:47] <val0> JoshOvki perfect that's exectly what happend thanks so much!
[20:48] <achilles> damn:(
[20:48] <JoshOvki> sui: any luck yet?
[20:48] <niall> kwin has it's own new compositing features in KDE4
[20:48] <niall> since it's already full integrated into KDE
[20:48] <achilles> rotating cube too?
[20:48] <niall> rather than tack compiz-fusion
[20:48] <niall> which is still pretty buggy
[20:49] <niall> I don't think it has the cube
[20:49] <Szaln> vermux, are you now in X or just shell?
[20:49] <sui> JoshOvki: no, i found in syslog: eth1: link is not ready
[20:49] <niall> but it does have some actually useful things ;p
[20:49] <achilles> :P
[20:49] <achilles> but atleast we get some effects
[20:49] <Vermux> Szaln: in package configuration - blue screen
[20:49] <JoshOvki> what does   iwconfig    report now?
[20:49] <niall> like things that actually increase productivity
[20:49] <Vermux> Szaln: configuring xserver -xorg
[20:49] <achilles> :P
[20:49] <Szaln> let me have a look at mine
[20:50] <achilles> will it have the expose thing effect?
[20:50] <firecrotch> niall:  I'd say that compiz-fusion is pretty stable, I've been using it for a long time with not a single problem.  Though that could be becuase I'm using an Intel graphics card
[20:50] <achilles> yeah nvidia users get alot of bugs
[20:50] <sui> JoshOvki: when i set a static ip, knetworkmanager writes a new interfaces-file, and after that its not possible to see wireless connections.
[20:50] <JoshOvki> hmmm
[20:51] <JoshOvki> what security is on ur router?
[20:51] <firecrotch> Well, maybe if nvidia provided better drivers....
[20:51] <achilles> yeah
[20:52] <sui> JoshOvki: i removed all lines from interfaces and now knetworkmanager shows my network again.... thats weird...
[20:52] <niall> I'm hoping that ATi/AMD is going to be the way to go for Linux
[20:52] <JoshOvki> yeh
[20:52] <niall> with all their drivers being open source and everything
[20:52] <val0> JoshOvki I just tried it again and everything worked fine. Does it mean that the error was fixed?
[20:52] <niall> and they keep pumping out documentation and that
[20:52] <achilles> yeah that will be awesome
[20:53] <JoshOvki> val0: they must have fixed it
[20:53] <Vermux> what resolutions should I choose the x server to use?
[20:53] <niall> You'd think that you wouldn't need the restricted driver manager for ATi next Ubuntu release, it should just install with the proper ones straight off, since they're open source now.
[20:53] <JoshOvki> sui: Do you have   mac filtering   WEP/WAP on your router?
[20:53] <Vermux> Szaln: what resolutions should I choose the x server to use?
[20:54] <achilles> so is ati the way to go for linux users? right now
[20:54] <niall> I should think so
[20:54] <sui> JoshOvki: no, and its unbelievable. in knetworkmanager I chose "try to connect to another network" et voila... I'm online
[20:54] <sui> with my wireless connection
[20:54] <JoshOvki> so its working now?
[20:54] <JoshOvki> or not still
[20:55] <sui> JoshOvki: yes it works
[20:55] <achilles> than ill think about ati when i get to upgreading my 32mb nivida card lol
[20:55] <JoshOvki> woot :)
[20:55] <JoshOvki> one of the best feelings for me, when i get my wifi working with linux :P
[20:55] <Szaln> vermux, 1024x768 or 800x 600 will be safe
[20:55] <sui> JoshOvki: it was this stupid interfaces-file
[20:55] <Vermux> Szaln: where is the location of xorg.conf
[20:55] <Vermux> ?
[20:55] <achilles> so true lol
[20:55] <Szaln> etc/X11
[20:56] <JoshOvki> sui: stupid file ay
[20:56] <U238Willy> heh
[20:56] <U238Willy> lol
[20:56] <sui> JoshOvki: I needed 5 days to solve this problem.... awesome
[20:56] <U238Willy> [15:56:01] [RAW]: etc /X11
[20:56] <JoshOvki> lol
[20:56] <achilles> i really want to see revolution os:P
[20:56] <U238Willy> tried to answer
[20:56] <tdn> How do I get the Helvetica font in Ubuntu?
[20:56] <JoshOvki> sui: glad to help.
[20:57] <sui> JoshOvki: 2 laptops here, one with a manual configuration with gentoo is working. kubuntu for my girl friend hangs for a simple textfile
[20:57] <sui> JoshOvki: thanks for your help :)
[20:57] <Vermux> Szaln: is it a directory? , I cant get into it
[20:57] <niall> tdn: there's a package of 'free' windows fonts you can download
[20:57] <niall> if it is one :x
[20:57] <JoshOvki> sui: your welcome :) im not doing bad for my first time here really
[20:57] <Szaln> yes
[20:57] <Szaln> go /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:58] <firecrotch> tdn: the msttcorefonts package has it, I think
[20:59] <achilles> i wish they include gimp by default in kubuntu:P
[20:59] <niall> it's gtk ;p
[20:59] <niall> although I have to say, I wish they include some graphics apps by default ¬_¬
[20:59] <achilles> :P
[20:59] <niall> there was nothing when i put it on
[20:59] <Vermux> Szaln: ok, now Im in text mode in the other computer after configuring the x server
[20:59] <tdn> niall, firecrotch: I have installed msttcorefonts, but I still cannot fint Helvetica in Inkscape.
[20:59] <Vermux> Szaln: I cant go to that directory
[21:00] <niall> not even a basic editor like paint
[21:00] <achilles> yeah
[21:00] <niall> you'd think they'd put krita and karbon14 on
[21:00] <achilles> true lol
[21:00] <niall> :<
[21:00] <achilles> tux paint:P
[21:00] <niall> ;D
[21:00] <achilles> ubuntu has all that :P but i dont like gnome XD
[21:00] <achilles> gimp i mean
[21:00] <JoshOvki> anyway i better restart, see how this xorg update has destroyed my machine ;) cya all in a moment i hope
[21:00] <U238Willy> vermux, you should be able to enter the directory.. however you will need root priv. if you're going to edit the xorg.conf file.
[21:01] <Vermux> Szaln: the x11 directory is blue
[21:01] <U238Willy> X11
[21:01] <U238Willy> there is a difference
[21:01] <achilles> woot vlc just finshed downloading  now im going to try to play my lord of the rings dvd
[21:01] <chithetank_> could someone help me with a little ubuntu problem?
[21:02] <firecrotch> tdn:  Sorry, it's actually *not* in msttcorefonts
[21:02] <tdn> firecrotch, so, how do I get it?
[21:02] <niall> achilles: you tried krita?
[21:02] <Vermux> U238Willy: thanks
[21:02] <Vermux> Szaln: ok, what do I do now? how do I start x server?
[21:03] <achilles> now yet :P
[21:03] <achilles> not*
[21:03] <achilles> you?
[21:03] <U238Willy> command line? type 'startx'
[21:04] <firecrotch> tdn:  Helvetica is a comercial font, so there's no way to get it for free, actually.
[21:04] <achilles> damn vlc will not play my lord of the rings dvd :(
[21:04] <achilles> i dont know what to do now;(
[21:05] <niall> you need some DVD playing lib I think
[21:05] <achilles> yeah but i dont know which one :(
[21:05] <achilles> i downoaded some but it still wont play
[21:05] <U238Willy> well with the right codecs installed kaffeine will play dvds, however others prefer mplayer or kmplayer.
[21:05] <U238Willy> !codecs
[21:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:05] <achilles> in kaffeine it keeps telling me it can not play
[21:06] <firecrotch> tdn:  That said, you could probably copy the font from a windows installation to your Kubuntu installation
[21:06] <achilles> thanks will try later:)
[21:06] <Vermux> Szaln:  I got this error: x:warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0. fatal server error: server is already active for display 0. if this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/ .x0-lock and start again
[21:06] <U238Willy> oof.. that's beyond my ken
[21:07] <achilles> ubotu can you please tell me what codecs to install? since i can not serf for some reason using dail up i can only download packages
[21:07] <niall> !dvd
[21:07] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[21:07] <U238Willy> ubotu is a bot with info
[21:08] <U238Willy> yep yep..
[21:08] <achilles> XD
[21:08] <miladen> Hey, can you guys recommend any mediaplayers like amarok?
[21:08] <achilles> banshee
[21:08] <U238Willy> juk
[21:08] <U238Willy> depends on what you're going for
[21:09] <niall> amarok is the best out of the ones I've tried
[21:09] <miladen> just a player for mp3 and usual soundfiles
[21:09] <firecrotch> If you're looking for something like amarok, why not use amarok ? :)
[21:09] <miladen> i have my reasons
[21:10] <U238Willy> and achilles... like they'll tell you.. you need to open up your 'allowed' repositories so you can then find the restricted/etc codecs
[21:10] <miladen> any1 with any recommends?
[21:10] <achilles> yeah i have all of them open
[21:10] <U238Willy> well amarok is fully loaded
[21:10] <U238Willy> and therefore a bit bloat-ish
[21:11] <achilles> in pclinuxos i just downloaded their libdvdcss2 rpm and i could watch any dvd but i dont know how to do  it in kubuntu
[21:11] <U238Willy> juk and even the old xmms will play sound files and are a bit smaller.
[21:11] <miladen> Are you guys serious? there is NO media player that can match amarok?
[21:11] <U238Willy> in functionality?
[21:11] <miladen> yea
[21:11] <U238Willy> not really
[21:11] <miladen> i guess this is why windows is bigger
[21:11] <miladen> no variation
[21:11] <U238Willy> it's the only one that I know of that can support mp3 players
[21:12] <U238Willy> like ipods and the like
[21:12] <josh__> achilles you need to add the restricted repositorys
[21:12] <Darkrift411> ok, i need some serious help. a few months ago, i spent days getting my wifi working and today my wife did something, and now my wifi isnt found
[21:12] <miladen> thats ridicoulus
[21:12] <Darkrift411> i cant even remember how i got it working
[21:12] <achilles> yeah i did that
[21:12] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: sure, ill try
[21:12] <Darkrift411> i know i tried using ndiswrapper, but if i remember correctly, that failed
[21:12] <achilles> every repostory is open
[21:12] <Darkrift411> so i did something else
[21:13] <Darkrift411> thx
[21:13] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: do you know what card you have?
[21:13] <firecrotch> Darkrift411: Ask your wife what she did so you can reverse it?
[21:13] <Darkrift411> i dont remember
[21:13] <JoshOvki> Darkrift411: are you using knetwork?
[21:13] <Darkrift411> the only mgr i had running was kwifimanager
[21:13] <achilles> sniff sniff i just wanna watch my lord of the rings dvd sniff sniff
[21:13] <Darkrift411> she had opened knetwork and i think tahts what messed it up
[21:13] <sui> JoshOvki: :)
[21:13] <JoshOvki> archillies: what does      sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[21:14] <JoshOvki> get?
[21:14] <JoshOvki> sui: hey again :)
[21:14] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: okay, try this, type lspci and into konsole and put the output on pastebin
[21:14] <achilles> i tried downloading that but it says it conflicts with two  other files
[21:14] <Darkrift411> !pastebin
[21:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:15] <sui> Darkrift411: can you find an accesspoint by tyoing iwlist $wirelessdevice scan?
[21:15] <coreymon77> sui: lets first find out what card we are working with here
[21:15] <U238Willy> achilles
[21:15] <JoshOvki> achillies:   sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[21:15] <Darkrift411> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52476/\
[21:15] <JoshOvki> i think thats better
[21:15] <sui> coreymon77: ok.
[21:16] <achilles> i already have that installed;(
[21:16] <JoshOvki> and u still cant play DVDs?
[21:16] <Darkrift411> when i try that both devices say "device doesnt support scanning" (lo and eth0) but i think my wifi was eth1
[21:16] <achilles> not my lord of the rings dvd:(
[21:17] <U238Willy> i was going to ask achilles to look at or post his /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:17] <JoshOvki> in what media player?
[21:17] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: are you sure thats all the output
[21:17] <U238Willy> post in a pastebin of course
[21:17] <Darkrift411> yes
[21:17] <achilles> kaffeine
[21:17] <jatz_> hey, I have a question again
[21:17] <sui> coreymon77: just a few minutes ago I got help to fix a wifi problem on my laptop here... and it has something to do with knetwork and a manual configuration
[21:17] <achilles> and vlc player
[21:17] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: because according to this, as far as kubuntu is concerned, you dont have a wireless card in your computer
[21:17] <myotheralt> can someone help me with aome issues i am having with kde4?
[21:17] <Darkrift411> i know
[21:17] <Darkrift411> i couldnt find it in there
[21:17] <firecrotch> Darkrift411: Just to make sure... have you tried sudo ifup eth1 (or whatever the device is)?
[21:17] <jatz_> there was a crash, my hd was unsafely removed
[21:17] <jatz_> now it isn't mounting.
[21:17] <SSJ_GZ> myotheralt: → #kubuntu-kde4
[21:18] <myotheralt> ty
[21:18] <muesli_> friday 9pm. fecking best time of the week
[21:18] <coreymon77> sui: thats i dont use knetworkmanager, i just do it the good ol fashioned cmdline way
[21:18] <jatz_> tune2fs -e says "bad error behaviour.' which sounds bad.
[21:18] <Darkrift411> no such device :S
[21:18] <Darkrift411> lemme look up my laptop and find out what wifi it is
[21:18] <JoshOvki> jatz: wb, sounds like its all gone wrong now
[21:18] <jatz_> well, it was working fine
[21:19] <coreymon77> firecrotch: this is wifi, not ethernet, wouldnt he typically want wlan0 or ra0 or ath0 (depending on the card)
[21:19] <jatz_> but then the machine it was mounted to was shut off improperly
[21:19] <achilles> i know my dvd is playable cause ive played it in pclinuxos
[21:19] <niall> I just played a DVD ;}
[21:19] <jatz_> just chiming in on that, coreymon77, my wifi card appears as eth0
[21:19] <U238Willy> yeah i'd think wlan0 is more appropo
[21:19] <firecrotch> coreymon77:  I've had wireless cards that were eth1 before
[21:19] <Darkrift411> i know my laptop has the one card that supposedly everyone has problems with
[21:19] <coreymon77> okay
[21:19] <Darkrift411> some broadcom card
[21:19] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: more specific
[21:19] <achilles> do you think i need a restart?
[21:19] <jatz_> JoshOvki: thoughts on my breakage
[21:19] <achilles> to make it play
[21:19] <jatz_> ?
[21:19] <firecrotch> Ew broadcom cards are a pain
[21:19] <niall> I didn't need to restart
[21:19] <sui> coreymon77: normally me too, but in that case i wasnt able to configure wifi manually because iwpriv doesn't know the option 'set' and wpa_supplicant had solle ioctl errors
[21:19] <niall> I just played one now :X
[21:20] <coreymon77> firecrotch: i know, atheros all the way
[21:20] <achilles> sniff no frodo today i guess
[21:20] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: anyways, broadcom is a big company, can you be more specific about the card?
[21:20] <U238Willy> i got my broadcom to work in suse.. but only after using ndiswrapper
[21:20] <Darkrift411> im looking
[21:20] <niall> achilles: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[21:20] <jatz_> mnt
[21:20] <niall> you done that?
[21:20] <achilles> yeah
[21:21] <niall> did you run the install script?
[21:21] <achilles> i still wont play
[21:21] <achilles> no
[21:21] <achilles> how?
[21:21] <niall> .
[21:21] <coreymon77> U238Willy: ndiswrapper *pukes*
[21:21] <niall> ;D
[21:21] <U238Willy> those were the times though
[21:21] <U238Willy> you did that or else
[21:21] <coreymon77> i know
[21:21] <niall> achilles: sudo apt-get install debhelper
[21:21] <niall> achilles: sudo apt-get install fakeroot
[21:21] <niall> achilles: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[21:21] <coreymon77> there was a time when it took me 3 whole days to get any sort of internet to work
[21:21] <JoshOvki> jatz: take a look at this   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91312
[21:22] <U238Willy> i became quite familiar with ifconfig and iwconfig and sheesh..
[21:22] <jatz_> JoshOvki: thanks
[21:22] <achilles> thanks niall im doing the first step
[21:22] <coreymon77> U238Willy: me too, linux is also the reason ive memorized my encyption key
[21:23] <U238Willy> oi.. wep/wpa too?
[21:23] <tushyd> i currently am running Ubuntu (gutsy), how do I install KDE4 on it?
[21:23] <JoshOvki> how do you register a username here?
[21:23] <Darkrift411> its broadcomm 34xx (not sure the exact model)
[21:23] <coreymon77> U238Willy: why oi? once the card works, everything else is one simple command
[21:23] <Darkrift411> im slowly narrowing it down
[21:23] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: that shouldnt be too hard
[21:23] <U238Willy> coreymon77, true..
[21:24] <Darkrift411> i found chat logs of this chan from months ago in here where i was getting help
[21:24] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: do you have any internet on your kubuntu box at all?
[21:24] <Darkrift411> im on it
[21:24] <coreymon77> okay
[21:24] <Darkrift411> im sittting in daughters room behind a dresser to hook directly into the router
[21:24] <coreymon77> then we should be fine
[21:24] <Darkrift411> k
[21:25] <U238Willy> for KDE4
[21:25] <U238Willy> I'd start my search here.
[21:25] <U238Willy> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php
[21:25] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: although, continue finding out the exact card, since things are different for some of them
[21:25] <niall> if you search adept for kde4, there's a boat load of packages, i'd install kde4-base and kde4-data then pick out any others you want
[21:26] <jussi01> !kde4 > tushyd
[21:26] <JoshOvki> to be honist KDE4 isnt that good yet
[21:26] <U238Willy> the link i have above does go through some of the steps
[21:26] <U238Willy> or most
[21:26] <jussi01> niall: thats incorrect. please see the !kde4 factoid ;)
[21:26] <niall> ;]
[21:26] <niall> ok
[21:27] <PowerJC> !kde4
[21:27] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[21:27] <U238Willy> heh.. same link
[21:28] <tushyd> thanks jussi01
[21:29] <jussi01> tushyd: :)
[21:29] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: any more progress?
[21:30] <Darkrift411> Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card is what i keep finding on google with my laptop model
[21:30] <Darkrift411> that sounds familliar, but not sure where i got the 34xx
[21:30] <U238Willy> doesn't lspci work from the command line?
[21:30] <coreymon77> oh, darn, the 34xx would be much easier to work with
[21:30] <coreymon77> U238Willy: nope
[21:30] <jussi01> !bcm43xx | Darkrift411
[21:30] <ubotu> Darkrift411: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[21:31] <WhatAreYou> hello ive created an iso file of a dvd movie.  mounted it with sudo mount -o loop /home..../...iso /media/iso now it created a folder iso where insiede theres video_ts and adio_Ts. the question is how can i reproduce that video?
[21:31] <U238Willy> ?
[21:31] <firecrotch> Darkrift411:  I assume there's a switch on your laptop to turn the wireless card on/off?
[21:31] <Darkrift411> yes
[21:31] <U238Willy> it does on mine
[21:31] <Darkrift411> and its on
[21:32] <firecrotch> Darkrift411: Turn it off and then back on, then see what "dmesg" says, maybe it'll give the model #
[21:32] <coreymon77> jussi01: its not a 34xx aparently
[21:32] <niall> achilles: got it working yet?
[21:32] <jussi01> coreymon77: correct, its a 43xx ;)
[21:32] <U238Willy> they're common
[21:32] <coreymon77> jussi01: no it isnt
[21:32] <Darkrift411> no changes at all
[21:32] <achilles> oh omg naill it freaking plays now:)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:32] <niall> ;D
[21:32] <achilles> thanks you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:33] <Strangelet> Does Kubuntu have a "compiz-fusion" or a program that can create amazing effects?
[21:33] <niall> you're welcome
[21:33] <Darkrift411> last message is about me plugging in my ethernet cable
[21:33] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: lspci and dmesg still give you nothing?
[21:33] <firecrotch> Strangelet:  Yes.... it's compiz-fusion
[21:33] <Darkrift411> yes
[21:33] <NickPresta> !compiz | Strangelet
[21:33] <ubotu> Strangelet: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:33] <Strangelet> firecrotch: oh.
[21:33] <Strangelet> :D
[21:33] <Strangelet> whoops! :P
[21:33] <achilles> thanks thanks thanks now off i go cause my phone bill will be huge if i don't disconnect lol
[21:33] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: what computer do you have?
[21:34] <Darkrift411> compaq v6210us
[21:34] <achilles> naill you rock see ya
[21:34] <niall> bye
[21:34] <jussi01> coreymon77: that card has a 43xx chipset!
[21:34] <coreymon77> jussi01: well then why is there a seperate page for it on the wifi docs!
[21:35] <U238Willy> i'd be more surprised that it's not showing up under lspci or dmesg.
[21:35] <Darkrift411> i know it used to
[21:35] <coreymon77> jussi01: and why do the instructions say that you should get rid of the 43xx drivers!
[21:35] <firecrotch> Darkrift411: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092  should help
[21:36] <firecrotch> It's for the specific wireless card that your laptop has
[21:36] <jussi01> coreymon77: the instructions tell you to get rid of one set of 43xx drivers and use ndiswrapper.
[21:37] <coreymon77> w/e
[21:37] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: try the instructions on that forum page
[21:37] <jason__> !kernel
[21:37] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[21:37] <jussi01> coreymon77: to be exactly precise it has a bcm4311
[21:38] <Admiral_Chicago> eh?
[21:38] <Admiral_Chicago> whats that?
[21:39] <Admiral_Chicago> crap...
[21:39]  * firecrotch smacks Admiral_Chicago around a bit with a large trout
[21:39] <JoshOvki> admiral having problems?
[21:39] <firecrotch> Everything alright there?
[21:39] <U238Willy> broadcom 43xx NICs were very common.. that's what I had in my emachine.. and I too got it working with ndiswrapper..
[21:39] <U238Willy> (laptop)
[21:39] <Admiral_Chicago> @JoshOvki...apparently....
[21:40] <JoshOvki> apparently the world is round, but im not too sure ;)
[21:40] <Admiral_Chicago> well I came in here to find out if anyone has had success with Kopete + AIM + XMPP.
[21:41] <U238Willy> xmpp?
[21:41] <Admiral_Chicago> I'm trying to connect to the aol authentication server via xmpp but its not working
[21:41] <U238Willy> oh.. i've used aim..
[21:41] <Admiral_Chicago> U238Willy thats the Jabber protocol
[21:41] <U238Willy> through kopete
[21:41] <U238Willy> and even set up googletalk through jabber
[21:41] <Admiral_Chicago> they all use XMPP as a backend
[21:44] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe I'll just try Psi to see if ti will work in there....
[21:44] <U238Willy> well.. i set up a 'jabber' client..
[21:44] <Admiral_Chicago> right
[21:44] <U238Willy> in kopete to get to my googletalk.. but thankfully google had some wiki type stuff to make it easier to set up..
[21:45] <Admiral_Chicago> I have that link too...
[21:45] <U238Willy> worked like a charm
[21:45] <niall> I've got an aim account running on kopete
[21:46] <U238Willy> but each one is slightly different.. on what the accepted username is .. whether they want SSL.. and what ports..
[21:46] <Admiral_Chicago> niall using the Xmpp backend?
[21:46] <niall> no idae
[21:47] <Admiral_Chicago> I'm sure my error is either the JID or the port
[21:47] <Admiral_Chicago> niall did you ever mess with the login server
[21:47] <niall> no
[21:47] <niall> I just created a new aim account, added my username and pass then click next
[21:47] <niall> and it connected
[21:47] <niall> I didn't change anything
[21:48] <Odd-rationale> I used to have a feature that when I highlight a URL, KDE will pop up a menu asking me whether I want to poen it with konqueror. That was pretty kool. How do I get that back?
[21:48] <Admiral_Chicago> its using the default (oscar) protocol which is propreitary.  its in my best interest to run it under the xmpp protocol which is open source
[21:49] <hyper_ch> got a boot problem with the network manager:  http://www.pastebin.org/16004   --> I need to press ctrl-alt-delete in order to continue the boot process
[21:49] <jimmy51> hello, i'm trying my best to run kubuntu on my home machine instead of xp.  i'm doing pretty well, but need to be able to quickly VPN into my office network and RDP into my XP workstation.... what VPN client should i use?
[21:50] <BluesKaj> !remote
[21:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:50] <Flare183> !vpn
[21:50] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[21:50] <hyper_ch> jimmy51: I'd install cygwin and use sshfs
[21:50] <BluesKaj> !remote desktop
[21:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote desktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:51] <BluesKaj> hmm , VPN is it
[21:51] <BluesKaj> !info remote-desktop
[21:51] <ubotu> Package remote-desktop does not exist in gutsy
[21:52] <jimmy51> I see a RDP client (krdc)
[21:52] <jimmy51> but need the VPN step first
[21:53] <BluesKaj> !krdc | jimmy51
[21:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krdc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:53] <jimmy51> oops, Krdc
[21:53] <jimmy51> !Krdc
[21:54] <Darkrift411> gonna try a reboot, but that guild says my wifi light should be on now, and it isnt :(
[21:54] <Darkrift411> brb in 3
[21:54] <jimmy51> hyper_ch:  install cgywin on my linux box?
[21:55] <hyper_ch> jimmy51: no, on your windows box
[21:55] <BluesKaj> jimmy51 , krdc is in the kmenu/internet list
[21:55] <hyper_ch> jimmy51: so that you get a ssh server on your windows box through which you then can connect and mount the remote folder through ssh in your linux box
[21:55] <jimmy51> BluesKaj:  yeah, i see the client... i just don't know how to VPN into work like I did in XP
[21:55] <BluesKaj> ok
[21:56] <BluesKaj> ip addy then user&pw ?
[21:56] <jimmy51> yeah, i've got all that
[21:57] <jimmy51> BluesKaj:  In XP I opened Network Connections, clicked "new connection" or something, and chose VPN, entered my stuff, and boom, i'm connected
[21:57] <jimmy51> BluesKaj:  from there on out, I could just right click on the connection and click "connect"... then I run my RDP client and take over my workstation and code away
[21:57] <Darkrift411> no luck :(
[21:58] <Darkrift411> still no wifi listed in lspci
[21:58] <Darkrift411> i might have to go to walmart and buy a pci wifi card to use
[21:58] <Darkrift411> linksys or belkin should be safe brands to buy right?
[21:59] <BluesKaj> jimmy51, still got XP ?  :-)
[21:59] <JoshOvki> jimmy what VPN client are you using?
[21:59] <U238Willy> this wifi card is hardwired right? not a usb or otherwise connected right, Darkrift411?
[21:59] <Darkrift411> yes
[21:59] <Darkrift411> its built in
[21:59] <U238Willy> ok
[21:59] <jimmy51> BluesKaj:  yeah, I'm dual boot but I'm trying to be a good boy and ditch XP for kubuntu
[21:59] <jimmy51> JoshOvki:  in XP, i just use the built in windows VPN client
[21:59] <Darkrift411> if linux cant even see it, there something more then drivers wrong with it im guessing
[22:00] <JoshOvki> what about kubuntu?
[22:00] <JoshOvki> try   kvpnc
[22:00] <jimmy51> JoshOvki:  that's the question.  I'm trying to find a vpn client
[22:00] <demetrio> hello someone can help me to install webcam
[22:00] <jimmy51> JoshOvki:  i'll check the repository for that
[22:00] <U238Willy> when you got it to work before ... did you use ndiswrapper? or some other program?
[22:00] <Darkrift411> i think ndiswrapper failed
[22:00] <Darkrift411> but i dont remember what worked
[22:01] <Darkrift411> but i do remember that lspci showed it
[22:01] <Darkrift411> thats how we found out which card i had
[22:01] <demetrio> i try many times but doesen't work please
[22:02] <U238Willy> hmm..
[22:02] <JoshOvki> demetrio do you know if there is a driver available for it?
[22:03] <JoshOvki> or could you tell me the make and model of it?
[22:03] <Viking667> Got a question. How do I enter "weird" symbols from within thunderbird? (i.e. like the degree symbol)
[22:03] <demetrio> JoshOvki: Bus 001 Device 008: ID 093a:2468 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Easy Snap Snake Eye WebCam
[22:03] <Darkrift411> ok, thx guys, but i dont feeel like dealing with this crap again, imma go buy a new card
[22:03] <Viking667> and no, this isn't specific to thunderbird.
[22:03] <Darkrift411> and tell the wife to stay the hell off my damned computer
[22:03] <Viking667> I just can't find the equivalent program to gcharmap
[22:03] <U238Willy> dark
[22:04] <Darkrift411> she killed windows every time she touched it, so i figured linux would be more secure, but nothing can resist her technodeath touch
[22:04] <U238Willy> Darkrift411, sorry.. could you go to the command line and type 'ndiswrapper -l' and see what, if anything comes up?
[22:04] <Darkrift411> k
[22:04] <jimmy51> darkrift:  hahahaha.  that's why we have multiple computers man
[22:04] <demetrio> JoshOvki: linux see my webcam but when itry to run camorama i have this error: culd connect to /dev/vidoe0
[22:05] <JoshOvki> ok, what happens when you run    ls -l /dev/video0      ?
[22:06] <draik> Hello everyone
[22:06] <Darkrift411> says driver installed
[22:06] <U238Willy> haha
[22:06] <U238Willy> which means two things
[22:06] <kletus> como hago para irme  a kubuntu en español
[22:06] <U238Willy> 1) you are using ndiswrapper
[22:06] <Darkrift411> yes, i just installed ndiswrapper
[22:06] <Darkrift411> 5 mins ago
[22:06] <U238Willy> oi
[22:06] <Viking667> kletus: hablo Inglese?
[22:06] <Darkrift411> a page i was pointed to walked me thru it
[22:07] <kletus> no
[22:07] <draik> I'm using Kaffeine. When I try to watch Discovery's 2057, it plays without a problem. When I put in Transformers, it says "The source cannot be read. Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading from DVD.)"
[22:07] <U238Willy> !es | kletus
[22:07] <ubotu> kletus: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:07] <draik> Both DVDs are legit
[22:07] <JoshOvki> demitrio: what happens when you run    ls -l /dev/video0      ?
[22:08] <Viking667> ah.
[22:08] <bello> hi all! :-)
[22:09] <U238Willy> Darkrift411, wifi is strange in that whatever option you choose you want to stick with it.. because.. when I've had different programs competing.. the end result is a loss..
[22:09] <U238Willy> so i'd have to uninstall all of them.. and then start over
[22:09] <Darkrift411> exactly what caused this
[22:09] <Darkrift411> like i said
[22:09] <Darkrift411> easier to just buy a different card
[22:10] <Darkrift411> and stay away from broadcomm
[22:10] <Darkrift411> ill go with linksys or belkin
[22:10] <U238Willy> well..
[22:10] <Odd-rationale> Does anyone know how to enable that feature when you highlight something like a URL, a pop up menu appears that allows you to quickly open it with konquoror? Sorry I acn't give a better discription.
[22:10] <ktulu77> hi there :)
[22:11] <draik> Darkrift411: What about an old laptop. I am currently having the video issues with playing DVDs. It's a Dell SmartStep 200N. What do you recommend for a miniPCI wifi card?
[22:11] <Odd-rationale> It is rather hard to find something that you don;t know what it is called.
[22:11] <bello> someone of you upgraded gutsu to hoary?
[22:11] <Flare183> !hardy | bello
[22:11] <ubotu> bello: hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:11] <Darkrift411> i have no idea draik
[22:11] <bello> yep! Lapsus!
[22:11] <pix_> ciao a tutti
[22:11] <U238Willy> Darkrift411, what I worry about is.. whether putting another wifi card will compound the issue not correct it.
[22:11] <draik> Darkrift411: Ok Thanks.
[22:11] <pix_> ho un problema
[22:11] <bello> sorry!! ;-)
[22:12] <Darkrift411> im just talking about  what walmart sells in pcmci cards
[22:12] <Darkrift411> i hope not U238Willy
[22:12] <pix_> chi mi puo dare una mano?
[22:12] <Darkrift411> i think its just the model that i have
[22:12] <bello> it's enough modify source.list than apt-get upgrade && update?
[22:12] <bello> se so la risposta,volentieri | pix
[22:12] <Darkrift411> every time i paste in my model, everyone does this "oh crap, hes screwed" scene
[22:12] <Darkrift411> so i know its a crap card
[22:13] <pix_> ciao bello
[22:13] <Darkrift411> im hoping anything else will give better results
[22:13] <pix_> ascolta in pratica non mi funziona piu la wireless
[22:13] <bello> stanno parlando propri di questo...
[22:13] <bello> se leggi.
[22:13] <NickPresta> !it | bello
[22:13] <ubotu> bello: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:13] <Darkrift411> thx for the help, and ill prob be back in soon, after my trip to walmart
[22:13] <NickPresta> bello, tipo: /join #kubuntu-it
[22:13] <pix_> e ma sono appena entrato i vecchi mex non li leggo
[22:14] <pix_> in pratica un mio amico ha toccato il pc e non so che cosa ha fatto
[22:14] <hyper_ch> and I wonder why my /dev/sdb1 is not mounted upon boot:  /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1     ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro      0       2        -->     when I do    sudo mount -a    then it will be mounted then
[22:14] <Viking667> anyhow, has anyone got an answer to how I enter in a "special" character into a document or email? (such as a degree symbol, or an e with a circumflex?)
[22:14] <NickPresta> pix_, tipo: /join #kubuntu-it
[22:14] <pix_> da li mi tocca collegare il pc al modem
[22:14] <Viking667> I'm not new to Linux, just totally new to kubuntu.
[22:14] <hyper_ch> Viking667: â ?
[22:14] <Viking667> hyper_ch: that looked like a A with ~ above, followed by a cent symbol
[22:15] <draik> Where should I look to resolve my DVD issue? 2057 plays, but not Transformers
[22:15] <hyper_ch> Viking667: wrong charset I suppose then
[22:15] <LeAstrale> Hi everybody
[22:15] <NickPresta> hi, LeAstrale
[22:15] <Viking667> hyper_ch: yeah, I know. This "twin" thing doesn't do UTF-8 properly... but the question remains.
[22:15] <LeAstrale> anyone in here know what the reason could be that my Kubuntu 7.10 install has switched to a much smaller font since last boot ?
[22:16] <Viking667> heh. I have had that happen on occasions with Ubuntu, I've no idea either.
[22:16] <U238Willy> !dvd | draik
[22:16] <ubotu> draik: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[22:17] <ktulu77> does someone no how the bugs in launchpad are considered ?
[22:17] <ktulu77> because I have reported a bug but I don't know when it will be cheked
[22:17] <Viking667> 's all right. I found the program:  kcharselect
[22:17] <Viking667> someone else told me about it.
[22:17]  * Viking667 waves goodbye
[22:18] <draik> Thank you U238Willy
[22:18] <LeAstrale> Viking667: is it able to solve my problem?
[22:18] <LeAstrale> damn he left
[22:19] <U238Willy> LeAstrale, sounds to me your video settings changed..
[22:20] <U238Willy> unless you installed a new theme or changed the fonts in your theme
[22:20] <LeAstrale> U238Willy: haven't done any of the things you mention
[22:23] <U238Willy> well if your resolution looks tighter.. and you want to keep it..
[22:23] <voicu> what's the syntax for the DISPLAY variable?
[22:23] <LeAstrale> my resolution is still 1280x1024 but all fonts are smaller :/
[22:23] <U238Willy> then i'd head over to systemsettings/appearance/font and change the size
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> DISPLAY:1 ?
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> LeAstrale: adjust your dpi
[22:24] <voicu> leastrale: you can set your monitor size in /etc/X11/xorg.conf: that way fonts will have the same (real) size no matter the resolution
[22:25] <voicu> that's what dpi is for in the first place
[22:25] <voicu> nosrednaekim: no, i need to set it for a remote X server
[22:25] <deqc> seig heil
[22:25] <LeAstrale> voicu: how to set the monitor size? i have choosen the exact screen i have in display settings :)
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> voicu: ah., then I don't know
[22:25] <U238Willy> right.. and if you want LeAstrale.. you can always run through your xorg setup by 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[22:26] <U238Willy> to see if any of the settings have changed.
[22:26] <LeAstrale> U238Willy: wouldn't be smart when Nvidia has taken caare of it?
[22:26] <U238Willy> i had my resolution one day pop out for no apparent reason..
[22:27] <voicu> leastrale: from my experience that just sets the frequencies. open /etc/X11/xorg.conf with root and in the monitor section add an option like this DisplaySize WIDTH HEIGHT
[22:27] <voicu> WIDTH HEIGHT are in milimeters
[22:27] <U238Willy> that's what I did.. and then checked xorg.conf to make sure that it was using the nvidia-glx drivers..
[22:28] <LeAstrale> mine only needs to use the nvidia drivers that i have installed myself
[22:31] <slow-motion> n8
[22:31] <Flare183> How can i record my desktop?
[22:31] <sigma_1234> anyone here knw anyting bout kde kiosk?
[22:32] <NickPresta> !info gtk-recordmydesktop | Flare183
[22:32] <sigma_1234> Flare183: kde4 has that functionality
[22:32] <ubotu> flare183: gtk-recordmydesktop: Graphical frontend for recordmydesktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.4-1 (gutsy), package size 59 kB, installed size 448 kB
[22:32] <Flare183> sigma_1234: kde4 right now is whack because plasma is not finished
[22:32] <joze> hello there
[22:32] <joze> I have a huge problem..
[22:33] <joze> I disabled fglrx in restricted drivers
[22:33] <joze> and now I am not able to come in X
[22:33] <joze> whats the package name of this fglrx driver _
[22:33] <joze> that is in administration > restricted drivers and there is fglrx
[22:33] <joze> anyone.. its urgent
[22:35] <Odd-rationale> joze: Try xorg-driver-fglrx
[22:35] <Odd-rationale> joze: I don't have the said driver myself. So don't count on it.
[22:36] <Odd-rationale> joze: Would you like me to give you the other results of a search for "fglrx"?
[22:36] <joze> Odd-rationale: just a sec
[22:37] <joze> Odd-rationale: Iam not used of irssi and non graphics modes.. :)
[22:37] <Odd-rationale> joze: np
[22:38] <joze> Odd-rationale: the name is correct I think, its installing right now..
[22:40] <ktulu77> can someone else can confirm this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-kde4/+bug/183381
[22:41] <joze> Odd-rationale: I guess now I have to restart..
[22:41] <Odd-rationale> joze: Alright. I'll see you in a little bit...
[22:41] <oscar> I really think Kubuntu is a strange thing=)
[22:42] <oscar> When I change screen settings, the OS gets unbootable. Pressing the "test"-button is enough to destroy the whole thing
[22:42] <oscar> and people thinks windows is unstable =/
[22:42] <Dr_willis> I could say the same thing about WIndows and OS-X. -- i have messed them up so much befor its scary.
[22:42] <DreadKnight> ktulu77: confirmed
[22:42] <Dr_willis> Well #1 - you did install the proper video card drivers for your system?
[22:43] <oscar> I cant find any drivers
[22:43] <Dr_willis> oscar,  and whats your video card then?
[22:43] <oscar> ATI radeon mobility hd2400xt
[22:43] <Dr_willis> ati = Ick. :()
[22:43] <oscar> yeah i know
[22:43] <Dr_willis> The fglrx drivers may or may not be needed.
[22:43] <oscar> amd doesnt have drivers for my card:D
[22:43] <oscar> i tried fglrx...
[22:44] <oscar> = unbootable
[22:44] <Dr_willis> Theres unbootable.. then theres X wont start..
[22:44] <Dr_willis> theres a BIG differance between the 2
[22:44] <oscar> my unbootable = grub-> select OS -> black screen and NOTHING
[22:44] <Dr_willis> try alt-ctrl-f1, see if you can get to the console, or try the recovery mode.
[22:45] <ktulu77> DreadKnight: thanks !
[22:45] <oscar> I am really new to kubuntu, recovery mode works but i dont know what to do there=)
[22:45] <Dr_willis> Of course not sure what to do to fix your system other then set the driver back to using vesa.
[22:45] <oscar> i dont mind using vesa. the only thing i want with my gfx is 1280x800.
[22:46] <Dr_willis> that may not be possible without the fglrx or other drivers.
[22:46] <draik_> Dr_willis: Do you think that if I were to change my driver from ATI to vesa, I would get the splash screen?
[22:46] <cristina> hi, i have a bug inn  dpkg, i can't install anything ,this is the error : failed in buffer_read(fd): files list for package `libc6-i386': Invalid argument
[22:46] <oscar> :(
[22:46] <n_np> hows kde4 workin out?
[22:47] <oscar> is kde4 still beta?
[22:47] <Odd-rationale> n_np: still buggy. imo
[22:47] <Odd-rationale> !kde4
[22:47] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:47] <oscar> ty willy!
[22:47] <U238Willy> np
[22:47] <U238Willy> i was reading through it
[22:48] <U238Willy> seems like the later fglrx drivers may work
[22:49] <sars> ahdi dakchi saliit mano daba
[22:49] <cristina> with this bug in dpkg the system is good for nothing , i can't install anything
[22:49] <U238Willy> felt leery about posting a forum thread in here.. but.. they seemed to have run across the same issue you had..
[22:49] <matttis> where do i find the programs which start automatically ?
[22:50] <matttis> !startup
[22:50] <ubotu> To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[22:51] <matttis> ubotu: there's no button "save session" !
[22:51] <Odd-rationale> matttis: It is automatic
[22:52] <NickPresta> matttis, ubotu is a bot. type: "/msg ubotu bot" for more info.
[22:52] <nosrednaekim> matttis: hmmm you're right... go into advanced->sessions in system settings
[22:52] <matttis> nosrednaekim: thx
[22:52] <muesli_> anyone running hardy already? i happened to notice that the libqt4-sql doesn't seem to contain the sqlite plugin anymore?
[22:52] <matttis> Odd-rationale, NickPresta: I know, thanks
[22:56] <n_np> yeah I can expect it to still be buggy- that is the nature of open source releases
[22:59] <Vermux> is there a graphics bug in kubuntu?
[22:59] <Vermux> sometimes the windows ont show all the way
[23:00] <vzduch> muesli_: for Hardy-related stuff /j #ubuntu+1
[23:01] <muesli_> vzduch: sweet, didn't know about that channel... thanks!
[23:01] <miladen> .join
[23:02] <Vermux> anybody aware of a graphics bug in kubuntu?
[23:02] <oscar> yes
[23:02] <oscar> i have noticed
[23:02] <Vermux> anybody knows how to use badblocks?
[23:02] <oscar> have reinstalled 5 times today=)
[23:02] <Vermux> oscar: what happaned?
[23:03] <oscar> tried ti change screensettings. when pressing "test", everything goes baaaad
[23:03] <Vermux> oscar: Im trying to change the resolution and cannot do that on one computer
[23:03] <oscar> same
[23:03] <draik_> If the spalsh screen is a black screen, what should I do to view it? It's a blank background, not pitch black (exactly) since you can see light. It's a laptop.
[23:03] <Vermux> I didnt c test
[23:03] <Vermux> where is it?
[23:04] <oscar> system settins -> monitor & display -> hardware
[23:05] <oscar> Vermux: Dont press the button!:D
[23:06] <oscar> I should go to sleep
[23:06] <oscar> cya guys
[23:08] <ubuntu> hi all
[23:15] <Vermux> who knows how to use badblocks?
[23:16] <ibou> my kaffeine doesn't start
[23:16] <ibou> even if i start it through k menu
[23:16] <nosrednaekim> ibou: what does it do?
[23:16] <Vermux> how to scan the computer with badblocks?
[23:16] <ibou> i just have the little icon which move before it starts and after... nothing
[23:16] <nosrednaekim> !fsck
[23:16] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[23:16] <nosrednaekim> ibou: run it from a konsole
[23:18] <ibou> nosrednaekim: kaffeine or fsck ?
[23:18] <nosrednaekim> ibou: kaffeine:)
[23:18] <ibou> nosrednaekim: i did. Nothing happen and my konsole is freezed
[23:18] <nosrednaekim> ibou: hit "ctrl+C"
[23:19] <nosrednaekim> it didn';t give any errors or output?
[23:19] <Vermux> why I cant reboot from x server. I can just log out and then it becomes console
[23:19] <Vermux> ?
[23:19] <ibou> nosrednaekim: nothing
[23:19] <nosrednaekim> ibou: thats odd.
[23:19] <ibou> nosrednaekim: what is odd ?
[23:19] <biovore> Vermux: reboot your computer from the login screen?
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> ibou: that it didn't give you any errors
[23:20] <Vermux> biovore: yes, I cant do that. the option is not there
[23:20] <biovore> hmm.. kde4 installed?
[23:20] <Vermux> biovore: not from the login screen but within kubuntu
[23:21] <biovore> Vermux: you mean after you have logged in..
[23:21] <biovore> Vermux: reboot from the kde desktop...
[23:21] <Vermux> biovore: when I click on log out it gives me the option to log out or to cancell.
[23:21] <Vermux> biovore: that what Im trying to do
[23:21] <biovore> Vermux: hmm.. I get reboot here..
[23:21] <Vermux> biovore: the option is not there
[23:22] <Vermux> I got it too before
[23:22] <Vermux> but I have problems with screen resolution
[23:22] <Vermux> had to play with it
[23:22] <biovore> Vermux: yeah.. should give you reboot and shutdown options..   Maybe a group setting..
[23:22] <Vermux> and now it is not working properly
[23:23] <Vermux> anybody? any idea?
[23:23] <Vermux> biovore: right!
[23:23] <Vermux> biovore: but those disappeared
[23:24] <biovore> Vermux: check in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file..
[23:24] <biovore> I think it has something to do with kdm
[23:25] <sven_oostenbrink> Hi there, I am using beagle as the desktop search tool, but the beagle deamon is not starting automatically.. How can I have it start automaticall?
[23:25] <Vermux> biovore: I have no idea what to check there
[23:25] <sven_oostenbrink> There is a "start automatically at login" option somewhere there, but when I select it, nothing happens.. Also the "start deamon now" does not do anything at all
[23:26] <justin_> how do i get the files for KDE4
[23:26] <biovore> Vermux: /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc  look for allowshutdown line.. I think thats what your looking for..
[23:26] <nosrednaekim> !kde4
[23:26] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:27] <justin_> does kubuntu come with the propiety nvidia drivers
[23:27] <biovore> !nvidia
[23:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:27] <sven_oostenbrink> You guys are fast.. :P
[23:28] <Vermux> too many problems for a simple thing
[23:28] <casper__> hello! I have a primary partition with windows that i want to get rid of. My linux is on and extended partition. Is it safe to remove the primary partition with qtparted without trashing my linux partition?
[23:28] <oem> hay
[23:28] <casper__> justin_: No not as default but apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[23:28] <biovore> casper__: I think the kernel and grub need to be in a real partition.. (not 100% sure on that)
[23:28] <nosrednaekim> casper__: what are you going to do with that partition?
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> biovore: I don't think so.... I'm running my kernel on a extended and my grub is on the MBR
[23:29] <casper__> hopefully merge it with a large storage partition which is also extended
[23:29] <Strangelet> How can I set Kubuntu to run certain programs when I log into my account? Is there a configuration file somewhere that I would have to edit?
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> casper__: well, thats probably not going to work unless you use LVM
[23:30] <casper__> LVM?
[23:31] <Martijn1981> howto see how big your hard drive is?
[23:32] <casper__> Martijn1981: df -h
[23:33] <Strangelet> How can I set Kubuntu to run certain programs when I log into my account? Is there a configuration file somewhere that I would have to edit?
[23:33] <biovore> Strangelet: ~/.kde/AutoStart I think
[23:33] <biovore> basicly just write a simple bash script in that directory.. will get run at login..
[23:34] <casper__> maybe just open what you want and save the session
[23:35] <miladen> Is there any "must have" packages i should look into? first time linuxer
[23:36] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, depends on what you are looking for
[23:37] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, you could install kde4 now, which is more like.. previewing still, but its quite safe to do and shows you what kickass desktop you might have in about 2 months
[23:37] <miladen> where can i read more about it?
[23:38] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, Id say.. firefox, kontact for your mail, krusader, amarok (which should be installed already), k3b, kaffeine, make sure you got all codecs installed (look in adept manager for w32, codecs, etc)
[23:38] <sven_oostenbrink> !kde4 | miladen
[23:38] <ubotu> miladen: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:39] <applehypnosis> miladen, Sure.
[23:39] <Strangelet> biovore: Hmm.. what would a bash script look like if I am trying to run Compiz-Fusion? Do I simply put in "#!/bin/bash compiz"?
[23:39] <applehypnosis> how about the kde4 kmines? kopete for kde4?
[23:39] <miladen> sven_oostenbrink whats new in kde4? im a n00b in linux
[23:40] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, also I could recommend some extra apt repositories..  take a look at http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[23:40] <nosrednaekim> miladen: mostly looks, and its a bit faster too(for me)
[23:40] <ibou> when i start a video through konqueror it cause crash of kaffeine which i can't start after, even through the k menu
[23:40] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, kde4 is the next version of kde desktop.. you are using kubuntu? then your desktop is kde..
[23:40] <applehypnosis> sven_oostenbrink: that thing is a 404
[23:40] <miladen> yes i know, so its the GUI thats changing?
[23:40] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, kde4 is faster, looks better and should in the end be better to use
[23:40] <ibou> but if i launch kaffeine through k menu after reboot it works and i can open the same video through the file open from kaffeine
[23:40] <applehypnosis> sven_oostenbrink: when is the "end"?
[23:41] <sven_oostenbrink> applehypnosis, that link I just gave? erw, I have it open right here in front of me
[23:41] <sven_oostenbrink> applehypnosis, I suppose the "end" would be when its stable for use.. it has GREAT potential, but when I tried it I got 10 crashes in 5 minutes which is a wee bit too much for a production desktop
[23:42] <sven_oostenbrink> applehypnosis, and don't get me wrong.. I *WILL* install kde4 because it kicks ass!
[23:42] <sven_oostenbrink> but it needs to be stable first
[23:42] <justin__> when i enable the nvidia restricted driver it say unable to find package source driver not enabled
[23:42] <justin__> ?
[23:43] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, the best thing todo right now is.. just play around.. try things
[23:43] <tekteen> justin__: do you have the universe repo enabled?
[23:43] <justin__> how do i do that
[23:43] <applehypnosis> sven_oostenbrink: i open the desktop and feel "something is missing"
[23:43] <tekteen> !repo
[23:43] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[23:43] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, play with adept manager, look for certtain softwares.. install them, remove them.. its not like windows where you install / uninstall 10 things and your windows will be dead..
[23:43] <Darkrift411> omfg, the card i bought has a friggen broadcom chipset also :@
[23:43] <sven_oostenbrink> applehypnosis, what do you mean?
[23:43] <tekteen> !repo| justin__
[23:43] <ubotu> justin__: please see above
[23:44] <sven_oostenbrink> applehypnosis, miladen, and damn yeah, the sources generator is no more :(
[23:44] <applehypnosis> sven_oostenbrink: a right click on the desktop doesn't bring up the same menus.. like with the panel and the desktop.
[23:44] <jumpkic1> my X server is foobar after the latest update
[23:44] <sven_oostenbrink> applehypnosis, kde4 is going to be the kind of change again that needs you to try it for a little to get used to it.. but Im positive its going to be good
[23:44] <miladen> sven_oostenbrink install/uninstall has no consequences?
[23:45] <jumpkic1> I can't leave KDM and still have video signal
[23:45] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, nope :)
[23:45] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, one thing to know though:
[23:45] <jumpkic1> can't login past KDM or flip to console
[23:45] <Strangelet> how do I make a bash script that will run Compiz-Fusion?
[23:45] <tekteen> Strangelet: when do you want it to run?
[23:45] <jumpkic1> Strangelet: put a script into .kde/Autostart/
[23:45] <Strangelet> upon boot
[23:45] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, adept manager is GREAT but sometimes a bit shaky still.. if something goes wrong, you can always ask here to fix it (wrong as in, adept manager crashes, next time on start up it won;t work anymore)
[23:45] <applehypnosis> miladen: dude, you are going to love the convenience of linux packages.
[23:45] <Strangelet> tekteen: Upon login
[23:45] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, if you have any problems with adept manager, try this:
[23:46] <sven_oostenbrink> !aptfix | miladen
[23:46] <miladen> !aptfix
[23:46] <miladen> say waht? :D
[23:46] <tekteen> Strangelet: type "kwrite ~/.profile" in the konsole
[23:46] <ubotu> miladen: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[23:46] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, what applehypnosis says.. you will LOVE linux package installation..
[23:46] <tekteen> Strangelet: no quotes
[23:46] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, nothing is so easy as software installation and uninstallation on linux..
[23:47] <Strangelet> tekteen: Okay, I have done that
[23:47] <justin__> it still does it
[23:47] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, the ! convention is to talk to bots which will give you a quick answer on a question you have
[23:47] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, !aptfix will give you an answer on how to fix adept
[23:47] <tekteen> Strangelet: then put " export KDEWM='compiz' " (no double quotes)
[23:47] <sven_oostenbrink> !aptfix
[23:47] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[23:47] <miladen> yeah i know, was a CS g33k some years back :)
[23:47] <tekteen> Strangelet: at the bottom
[23:47] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, sometimes it takes the bot a few seconds to reply but it will
[23:47] <tekteen> Strangelet: save then restart
[23:48] <tekteen> Strangelet: or login/out
[23:48] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, just don't give up on linux because you run in anything strange.. like, "I can't find outlook"... "thats why I will go back to windows"... ARGH!\
[23:48] <Strangelet> tekteen: okee doke, login/out now :)
[23:48] <sven_oostenbrink> end users are terrible..
[23:48] <Darkrift411> when you plug in a pcmcia card, should dmesg show something?
[23:49] <hol> im not able to connect virtualbox whit my pc
[23:49] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, you know how the software packages work right?
[23:49] <tekteen> hol: what do you mean connect?
[23:49] <justin__> this it what happens when i try to enable propeity driver " the software source for the package nvidia-gfx-new, is not enabled"
[23:50] <miladen> yea
[23:50] <miladen> sudo apt-get install firefox (ex.)
[23:50] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, try adept manager from the menu
[23:50] <sven_oostenbrink> you are using kubuntu right?
[23:50] <miladen> ive tried that too, hehe ok its my 3rd day in kUbuntu
[23:50] <tekteen> justin__: have you enabled the universe repo?
[23:51] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, adept manager has a very VERY nice search option.. :P
[23:51] <miladen> i've seen it, its amazing that it  can find PHP scripts for me :D
[23:51] <nosrednaekim> !info nvidia-glx-new
[23:51] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, if you know how the packages work, I guess you also know what the sources.list is.. make sure you have all the necesary repositories in  your sources.list
[23:51] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB
[23:52] <tekteen> !info nvidia-glx-new | justin__
[23:52] <ubotu> justin__: nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB
[23:53] <miladen> sven_oostenbrink: no i dont know what that is
[23:53] <justin__> enabled universe
[23:53] <justin__> works
[23:53] <justin__> thanks
[23:53] <nosrednaekim> justin__: you need to enable restricted
[23:53] <miladen> !sources.list
[23:53] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[23:53] <tekteen> justin__: np
[23:53] <justin__> where is the KDE4 chanel
[23:53] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, no comment :)
[23:53] <tekteen> justin__: #kubuntu-kde4
[23:53] <miladen> hehe fast learner ;)
[23:56] <miladen> sven_oostenbrink: what should my setup look like in the "update"menu
[23:56] <miladen> sven_oostenbrink: should i select "unsupported updates"?
[23:57] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, eh, update menu? where? what program?
[23:58] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, if you want I can pastebin my sources.list.. problem only is that its a bit "dirty", there are broken and old links in there.. It works very fine though..
[23:58] <miladen> sven_oostenbrink: should i select "unsupported updates"?
[23:58] <miladen> oh sorry
[23:58] <miladen> sven_oostenbrink: i dont understand the repository site that the bot recommended :S
[23:59] <sven_oostenbrink> miladen, well.. its simple.. one sec
[23:59] <Darkrift411> lspci should list pcmcia devices right?
[23:59] <miladen> can i set my irc client to make a noise when someone writes my name?