[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #183937 in launchpad "In Launchpad's "Ask a Question", you can not upload a file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183937
[04:43] <iblastoff> can't seem to find a way to remove/delete a branch from launchpad?
[04:50] <jml> iblastoff: you should be able to do it for most branches
[04:53] <iblastoff> just to clarify i cant delete a branch unless all blueprints from it are unlinked is that correct?
[04:53] <iblastoff> this is far bzr integrated branch
[04:53] <iblastoff> for*
[04:55] <lifeless> blueprints and bugs and release series
[04:59] <iblastoff> ok thank you
[05:11] <ScottK> Is there someone around who can delete a PPA package?
[05:28] <Hobbsee> ScottK: probably not yet
[05:34] <ScottK> Hobbsee: Thanks.  So far I'm completely SOL finding a version of avscan that will build on the Dapper tool chain and build against the curren clamav.
[05:35] <ScottK> I'm fairly sure the right answer has a version number lower than the one I already uploaded.
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #183944 in launchpad "PPA Titles are out of order" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183944
[05:38]  * ScottK gives up and goes to bed.
[05:38] <ScottK> On the off chance that anyone who can delete PPA packages reads the backscroll, would you please delete the dapper package from avscan from the ubuntu-clamav PPA.  I'm the team admin.
[05:38] <Hobbsee> ScottK: epoch it?
[05:39] <ScottK> Hobbsee: I will if it's not deleted by the time I have a solution.
[05:39] <ScottK> I'm not ready to do an upload right now.
[05:42] <ScottK> But considering all the clamav rdepends, having one left to fight with isn't so bad.
[08:03] <carlos> morning
[08:34] <sabdfl> howdy carlos
[08:35] <carlos> sabdfl: quite good, finishing my last tasks in Foundations team :-)
[08:35] <sabdfl> nice! has it been interesting? what did you work on?
[08:47] <carlos> yeah, it's quite interesting and I'm learning a lot of new things
[08:47] <carlos> I'm working on inline navigation and a couple of small bugs
[08:57] <philn> hi
[09:56]  * thegodfather stares at his karma points
[09:56] <thegodfather> how is it even possible that I am "most active in Fedora"?!?!?
[09:57] <soren> thegodfather: heh... You're even in the top 3 of contributors: https://edge.launchpad.net/fedora
[09:57] <thegodfather> soren: exactly
[09:58] <soren> Well, that's not the same as "Most active in".
[09:58] <thegodfather> https://edge.launchpad.net/~fabbione
[09:58] <thegodfather> soren: ^^^
[09:58] <soren> "Most active in" lists the projects you're involved in where you're most active.
[09:58] <thegodfather> that's under the "most active"
[09:58] <thegodfather> right
[09:58] <soren> It doesn't meant that you're one of the top cntributors of the project.
[09:58] <thegodfather> but i am not active in fedora
[09:59] <thegodfather> right.. i didn't say that
[09:59] <soren> WEll, you've probably commented on some bugs that have a fedora bug task.
[10:00] <thegodfather> possible
[10:00] <thegodfather> just weird
[10:00] <thegodfather> that's all
[10:00] <soren> Yeah :)
[12:12] <bigjools> thegodfather: you must have been awarded points for wearing that red hat at AH :)
[12:12] <thegodfather> bigjools: ROFL
[14:22] <Hobbsee> kiko: forgotten to mention yesterday @ the mobile stuff - they'd really find deleting stuff useful.
[14:23] <kiko> Hobbsee, deleting what?
[14:23] <Hobbsee> kiko: packages from ppa
[14:24] <Hobbsee> they're already doing it from drescher, it appears
[14:24] <Hobbsee> but to have it in a less cumbersome way would be good
[14:24] <kiko> yeah.
[14:26] <Hobbsee> kiko: it appears they're using it as a testing ground, and slowly getting the packages into hardy after that
[14:27] <bigjools> Hobbsee: did you see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/172587
[14:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 172587 in soyuz "UI for deleting and copying packages" [High,Fix committed]  - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov)
[14:28] <Hobbsee> bigjools: i did!  thanks :D
[14:28] <Hobbsee> oh wait, that's a differen't bug
[14:28] <Hobbsee> no
[14:28] <bigjools> ?
[14:28] <Hobbsee> but that loosk good too :)
[14:29]  * Hobbsee thought you meant the component mapping that you fixed yesterday
[14:29] <bigjools> ah
[14:31] <kiko> look at that, two bugs fixed. amazing. 
[14:32] <Hobbsee> kiko: hey now.  i didn't say that :)
[14:32]  * Hobbsee was not denying that lp bugs got fixed, even soyuz ones
[14:38]  * ScottK is very pleased the sbuild virtual depends bug got fixed.
[14:38] <ScottK> Speaking of Soyuz bugs fixed.
[14:39] <Hobbsee> ScottK: that got done too?  excellent
[14:39] <Hobbsee> kiko: just checking - you guys do have the functionality in launchpad to ban people from contributing to one project only?
[14:41] <kiko> Hobbsee, nope!
[14:41] <Hobbsee> kiko: oh dear.
[14:42] <kiko> Hobbsee, what's the use case?
[14:42] <Hobbsee> kiko: person banned from ubuntu, but wants to continue to contribute to other projects hosted on LP
[14:43] <elmo> sorry - who's been banned from Ubuntu?
[14:43] <Hobbsee> elmo: Kmos 
[14:43] <Hobbsee> elmo: motu council banned him from ubuntu development today.
[14:43] <rjek> What had he done?
[14:44] <Hobbsee> rjek: read the MOTU ML for hte last few months, saves me saying it over again
[14:44] <ScottK> rjek: It's a long and painful story.  
[14:45] <rjek> Just an abusive stirer?
[14:46] <ScottK> No.  Amazing energy to do large volumes of work, most of it complete cr@p that clogs up the sponsorship process and sows confusion and dissent, and absolutely no sign of any ability to learn.
[14:47] <Hobbsee> rjek: here
[14:47] <rjek> ScottK: Ah, that kind of thing.
[14:47] <Hobbsee> rjek: http://rafb.net/p/DSFBa954.html should give a reasonable indication.  it's one of hte mails on the MOTU ML
[14:48] <Hobbsee> (he then went on to do what he promised not to do, which he had not done at the time of that mail)
[14:50] <rjek> Hobbsee: Woah.
[14:50] <Hobbsee> rjek: ...yes.
[14:50] <Hobbsee> rjek: the final kick to get him out also has an interesting lot of feedback on it, if you wanted more
[14:50] <rjek> Sure.  I'm bored. :)
[14:51] <Hobbsee> listed at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Council/KmosReport
[14:51] <Hobbsee> rjek: if you're really bored, read the mails from the MOTU ML and the MOTU council ML that have "kmos" or "marco" in the title.
[14:52] <rjek> I'm sure I should have better things to do, but what the hell? :)
[14:52] <ScottK> And it your REALLY bored you can grep the #ubunt-motu IRC logs for the last 6 months and get a real feel for the pain.
[14:52] <ScottK> Speaking of deleting, is there anyone available to delete some PPA packages?
[14:53] <ScottK> This is all in the ubuntu-clamav PPA - dapper/avscan, edgy/claws-mail, feisty/claws-mail
[14:55] <kiko> ScottK, ask tom via answers. or wait till next thursday and you can do so yourself. :)
[14:56] <ScottK> kiko: Thanks.  What project to I ask the question against?
[14:57] <kiko> ScottK, well, either, but soyuz is probably most appropriate
[14:57] <ScottK> kiko: Thanks.
[14:58]  * Hobbsee ponders pushing thsi SRU
[14:59] <ScottK> Which SRU?
[15:00] <Hobbsee> kdepim - kitchensync/ksync
[15:01] <Hobbsee> wouldn't have had to sru it, if i'd done it before release :-\
[16:42] <philn> if my PPA packages are for gutsy, is there an automated way to make them all available for Hardy too?
[16:42] <philn> or do I need to re-upload src pkgs especially for hardy, one by one
[16:43] <Kmos> philn: yes.. and change from gutsy to hardy in changelog
[16:43] <ScottK> Re-upload them as you want them built against the Hardy tool chain.
[16:43] <philn> :/
[16:43] <geser> philn: you need a new version anyway
[16:44] <philn> i see
[17:09] <ubotu> New bug: #184077 in malone "Link source package to project when adding a bug task?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184077
[17:36] <ubotu> New bug: #184090 in launchpad "Bad cert on SSL downloads" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184090
[18:15] <mtaylor> kiko: so you gonna add that bug tracker for me? :)
[18:16] <kiko> mtaylor, if you tell me more about it, yeah
[18:17] <mtaylor> kiko: you now know everything I do... I'll see if I can get the developer in contact with you though
[18:18] <kiko> mtaylor, we just need an XML or CSV or other machine-readable description of the bug; we can screen-scrape but that's not very smart
[18:18] <kiko> surprising google code doesn't have such machine-readable output
[18:20] <mtaylor> no kidding
[18:20] <\sh> guys, how difficult will it be to add to feeds.launchpad.net a simple rss2 feed without all this <style> markup?
[18:20] <kiko> me looks at bac 
[18:21] <kiko> and reads an IRC newbie howto
[18:21] <\sh> kiko, for what? just start the client...most people do ;)
[18:21] <mtaylor> kiko: sent an email to you and to Jim Winstead, who is the dev at mysql who deals with bugs.mysql.com
[18:21]  * kiko . o O ( ! )
[18:22] <kiko> thanks mtaylor 
[18:22] <mtaylor> my pleasure
[18:22] <mtaylor> any thoughts on that ssl thing? 
[18:22] <bac> \sh: hi.  can you explain more about what you want regarding a feed?
[18:24] <\sh> bac, just a plain rss feed without all this stylish css stuff...like headline -> body of the report -> link to submitter and some important links like package project etc. but just plain html
[18:24] <\sh> moment phone
[18:29] <\sh> bac, right now the atom feed comes with a bunch of "<style> ... </style>" css markups...what I would like to see in LP is just a plain rss feed with all important information inside, the formatting is done in the feedreader later..:)
[18:31] <bac> we've chosen to implement atom and don't have any plans to support rss.  and we put the styling in the <content> marker because we felt that would give a better presentation across readers.  but i'm interested to hear that you think differently.
[18:32] <bac> \sh: so do you really have two issues:  rss vs atom and style vs no style or just the latter?
[18:35] <\sh> bac, let's say the latter...I think including the information about the bug is enough...style is attached by the feedreader or aggregator and imho shouldn't be overwritten by a feed...
[18:36] <bac> ok.  would you mind filing a bug so we can track your concern?  since the feeds are new we're looking for good feedback from users about what content you want to see and how you want to see it.
[18:37] <\sh> bac, sure :)
[18:37] <bac> thanks.  and feel free to ping me or statik here in #launchpad if you have other questions or comments about it.
[19:19]  * profanephobia is away: I'm gone
[19:20]  * profanephobia is back (gone 00:00:05)
[19:36] <mchung> I noticed that imagemagick in gutsy is still 6.2.4x. are there plans to package up a later version?
[19:38] <mtaylor> mchung: one of the guys at wikipedia has been working on that - I don't know if he's sent his patches upstream or not though
[19:40] <mtaylor> mchung: nevermind... he's just got a patched 6.2.4
[19:41] <mchung> http://ppa.launchpad.net/wikimediabuild/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imagemagick/ ?
[19:41] <mtaylor> mchung: yup. that would be it
[19:43] <mchung> mtaylor: so is that task up for grabs?
[19:44] <mtaylor> mchung: probably... I know very little past the bad info I've given you already
[20:06] <ubotu> New bug: #184143 in malone "Branch link should include 'Is a dependency' in reasons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184143
[20:15] <bdmurray> I seem to have found an advanced search that can make launchpad timeout regularly
[20:17] <bdmurray> Is that best submitted as a bug or mail to the mailing list?
[20:20] <statik> bdmurray: a bug please, but feel free to mail about it as well
[20:22] <bdmurray> statik: will do, thanks
[20:55] <ubotu> New bug: #184164 in launchpad "timeout when performing advanced search" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184164
[22:25] <ubotu> New bug: #184179 in malone "when viewing a specific bug comment there is no hyperlink to the full bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184179
[22:32] <Rinchen> bdmurray, that's an interesting bug
[22:32] <Rinchen> bdmurray, I emailed BjornT about it with details. 
[22:34] <bdmurray> Rinchen: the last one?
[22:34] <Rinchen> bdmurray, the bug search timeout
[22:34] <Rinchen> some interesting timing on the DB query
[22:35] <Rinchen> looks like we need some sql statement optimization by the look of it...but have passed to Bjorn for analysis
[22:36] <bdmurray> Right, I seem to recall having an issue just querying on bugs related to me a while ago
[22:36] <Rinchen> We did a lot of work to fix the timings there last year
[22:38] <bdmurray> Yeah, I haven't noticed any issues recently
[23:23] <Rinchen> changed dev mtg time
[23:23] <Rinchen> well, date