[00:51] <xivulon> cjwatson anything against moving lupin/casper into a dedicated project called custom-installation?
[00:52] <xivulon> aim is to allow modifying initrd/iso/installer using files and scripts available on local hard disk, lupin/casper code stays the same + I add lupin/alternate to provide equivalent functionality within the alternate CD
[10:30] <xivulon> evand noticed your comment re #173659 would you mind expanding on it?
[10:33] <xivulon> my understanding is that if you loopinstall inside linux, it will use /loopinstallation/disks/boot as /boot when you are within the loopinstallation
[10:34] <xivulon> then the user will have to add an option to their regular grub pointing at /loopinstallation/disks/boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:35] <xivulon> I did not test this configuration, but I assume that is what should happen
[10:36] <xivulon> hence I do not see how the patch is problematic for linux based loopinstallations
[10:59] <xivulon> the loopinstallation /boot is a directory sitting within the /host partition, but it is segregated from the host /boot dir.
[10:59] <xivulon>  that's the same behaviour in linux and windows.
[12:46] <thom> hell and death
[12:46] <thom> there's no way i can see of forcing usb_storage not to load in gutsy's d-i
[12:47] <thom> which means that #33249 kills autoinstalling :
[12:47] <thom> (
[13:44] <soren> thom: Isn't there a kernel option to disable usb altogether?
[13:45] <thom> soren: yeah, trying that one. means no keyboard though
[13:45] <soren> You're *auto*installing.
[13:45] <thom> debugging past that point gets tricky ;)
[13:45] <soren> Why do you care about a keybaord? :)
[13:45] <thom> first gutsy autoinstall... i'm unconvinced it's gonna work flawlessly ;)
[13:46] <soren> bug 33249
[13:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 33249 in hw-detect "root partition once /dev/sdi1 then /dev/sda1" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33249
[13:46] <soren> Does that still apply?
[13:47] <thom> in as much that the USB mass storage still turns up as sda, yes
[13:47] <soren> UUID based mounting surely should avoid that?
[13:47] <thom> and there's nothing actually *attached* to the usb mass storage
[13:47] <soren> Well, not avoid them showing up as sda, but it should alleviate any problems that might arise from it?
[13:48] <thom> i guess i can just write a partman recipe for this specific hardware, but meh
[13:48] <soren> I still fail to see how it's a problem?
[13:49] <soren> From Edgy and onwards, we use UUID's all over the place?
[13:49] <thom> d-i     partman-auto/disk       string  /dev/sda
[13:50] <thom> is where the problem is. but like i say, a partman recipe for this hardware is not the end of the world
[13:50] <thom> just irritating
[13:50] <soren> Oh... Got it.
[13:58] <CIA-22> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2411 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py): * Simplify check for gconftool-2 being on $PATH.
[15:56] <xivulon> evand ^^^
[15:57] <evand> xivulon: I replied to the bug report directly.
[15:57] <xivulon> ah
[15:57] <evand> I also uploaded a new lupin.
[15:57] <xivulon> great!
[15:57] <xivulon> thanks a bunch
[15:58] <evand> It hasn't hit the buildds yet though.
[15:58] <evand> Anytime
[15:58] <xivulon> so basically now we only have the grub bugs left out!
[16:00] <evand> indeed
[16:01] <xivulon> I won't be around this w/e though
[16:02] <xivulon> if you have any q I'd rather answer today
[16:02] <evand> I'll be in transit this weekend, so I wont be around either.
[16:03] <xivulon> the 2 patches are about 10 lines in total, basically one patch detects whether we are using a loopinstallation and set kopt/kopt_2_6 to use the root and loop arguments correctly
[16:04] <xivulon> the second patch simply ensures that grub-installer works when /boot is mounbinded
[16:06] <evand> ok
[16:43] <Jean-Paul> Hi everybody
[16:44] <Jean-Paul> I don't know if this is the proper place for this mquestion, but here it is: I'm trying to update xserver-xorg-core using Update Manager
[16:45] <Jean-Paul> only I get this error: "W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb  403 Forbidden"
[16:45] <evand> It's not, but the update was blocked as it caused serious problems.  Just ignore it for the time being.
[16:46] <Jean-Paul> I did update the rest of the updates that were available today
[16:46] <Jean-Paul> won't that cause any conflicts?
[16:46] <evand> Nope
[16:46] <Jean-Paul> thank you, I was wories about that
[16:46] <Jean-Paul> *worried
[16:46] <evand> You're welcome
[16:46] <evand> Future reference though, such questions are best asked in #ubuntu.
[16:47] <Jean-Paul> ok, thanks
[16:48] <Jean-Paul> bye everybody (got a flight to catch :p)
[17:05] <CIA-22> partman-auto-loop: evand * r40 partman-auto-loop.ubuntu/ (7 files in 4 dirs): * Add /host/boot to fstab (LP: #173659). Thanks Agostino Russo.
[18:07] <CIA-22> oem-config: cjwatson * r399 oem-config/lib/im_switch.py: fix sense of XMODIFIERS test
[18:09] <xivulon> evand added a comment to 175772 with new code to replace the first chunk, + there is no longer any need for umounthost in lupin-support (since new umountroot does the same thing)
[18:10] <evand> ok
[18:11] <xivulon> still need `kopt_2_6="$default_kopt"` down at ~822+
[18:17] <CIA-22> oem-config: cjwatson * r400 oem-config/lib/im_switch.py: export GTK_IM_MODULE, QT_IM_MODULE, and XMODIFIERS; run input method as mortal user if sudoed
[18:18] <cjwatson> mebrown: OK, I think this input method stuff is basically working now, although I've only tested it in the context of ubiquity, not oem-config (ubiquity is easier to fiddle with on the fly)
[18:19] <cjwatson> mebrown: for ubiquity, the caveats are that (a) the locale you select isn't actually generated until much later due to memory constraints so scim will have the wrong input method selected by default (b) Chinese support isn't installed at present on the live CD due to space constraints
[18:21] <cjwatson> mebrown: (a) only affects oem-config if you're using a language other than that selected by default during installation, so your default-to-Chinese systems won't do that
[18:21] <cjwatson> (I think)
[18:21] <cjwatson> mebrown: (b) ought not to affect oem-config since the full language-support-* package ought to be installed
[18:22] <cjwatson> oh, and by "Chinese support" I meant "Chinese input method support" not translations and such
[18:25] <CIA-22> oem-config: cjwatson * r401 oem-config/lib/im_switch.py: don't read all_ALL and default; that would involve starting up scim even for English
[18:28] <CIA-22> oem-config: cjwatson * r402 oem-config/lib/im_switch.py: delete GTK_IM_MODULE, QT_IM_MODULE, and XMODIFIERS from environment if they vanish from IM configuration
[18:39] <cjwatson> drat, can't quite get it to persuade gtk to switch input method on the fly though
[19:36] <CIA-22> oem-config: cjwatson * r403 oem-config/ (lib/im_switch.py oem-config): inform GTK about input method change
[20:40] <CIA-22> grub-installer: evand * r722 grub-installer.ubuntu/debian/control: Restore proper Original-Vcs-Svn field.
[20:51] <CIA-22> grub-installer: evand * r723 grub-installer.ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.27ubuntu2
[21:09] <CIA-22> partman-auto-loop: evand * r41 partman-auto-loop.ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0ubuntu13
[22:23] <xivulon> evand thanks again for merging the patches
[22:24] <evand> xivulon: you're welcome.  Thanks for writing them.
[22:24] <xivulon> I think now all the pieces are in place and as soon as the ISO is ready I should be able to have a +/- working wubi
[22:24] <evand> awesome!
[22:24] <xivulon> A shame I am not around this w/e, but hopefully will have something to play with mon-wed
[22:25] <evand> let me know how it goes and we'll see about getting the new version on the CD
[22:26] <xivulon> I would expect to have alphas next week, we can have maybe a few days of testing just in case there is a major blunder
[22:26] <xivulon> then we can put it on CD
[22:28] <evand> indeed
[22:29] <evand> enjoy your weekend
[22:29] <xivulon> you too