[07:28] <dholbach> good morning
[10:13] <Mithrandir> amitk: were your networking fix uploaded anywhere?
[10:13] <Mithrandir> s/were/was/
[10:46] <amitk> Mithrandir: you mean the ethernet fix? yes, it is in the Hardy kernel tree now.
[10:48] <Mithrandir> hm, ok.  I'll get the linux source in the hardy PPA removed then.
[10:48] <Mithrandir> I wonder why my networking was broken last night.
[10:49] <StevenK> Mithrandir: Technically, my week is over, but do you need me to do anything?
[10:49] <Mithrandir> StevenK: I think we're good for now, unless you _want_ to work after your hours.
[10:50] <StevenK> Mithrandir: Meh, 30 minutes or so is fine
[10:51] <amitk> Mithrandir: you might want to wait until a new kernel is uploaded though
[10:51] <Mithrandir> amitk: oh, why?
[10:52] <amitk> Mithrandir: to have a kernel with the fix available for use? or were you only planning to remove the _source_ and keep the .deb available?
[10:53] <Mithrandir> amitk: oh, it's in the the .git tree, but not the uploaded kernel?  Ack.
[10:55] <Mithrandir> we'd need to reupload a new version since hardy has 4.7 now.
[10:56] <Mithrandir> amitk: do you want to upload to the PPA or should I?
[11:01] <amitk> Mithrandir: Hardy will have a -5.8 now. It is an ABI bump and will require LUM, LRM to be rebuilt too. Since compiling and testing all archs takes a lot of time, I suggest going with a -4.7 + the networking patch for UME PPA. What do you think?
[11:01] <Mithrandir> amitk: sounds like a plan to me.
[11:02] <Mithrandir> amitk: can you get that uploaded or should I do it?
[11:04] <amitk> Mithrandir: I'll prepared the tree and ask you to sign and upload it
[11:04] <Mithrandir> amitk: you're a member of the ubuntu-mobile group, so you should be able to just upload to the PPA yourself?
[11:04] <Mithrandir> lool: why is hildon-desktop - 1:0.0.43-1ubuntu1~um804+1 in the ppa?  Shouldn't it be in hardy and removed from the PPA?
[11:04] <amitk> Mithrandir: aah yes, I had forgotten that we were uploading it the PPA. Sure I'll do it
[11:05] <Mithrandir> amitk: cheers
[11:10] <Mithrandir> StevenK: have you had any further luck with tinymail and modest lately?
[11:16] <lool> Mithrandir: It's always the same hildon-desktop which was only uploaded to init the hardy PPA
[11:16] <lool> Mithrandir: It wont be pulled I think
[11:16] <StevenK> Mithrandir: I need to update libtinymail to 0.0.7
[11:16] <StevenK> Mithrandir: Modest looks good, we just need to fix the strings and icons, and it's done
[11:17] <StevenK> Given David's glowing report about modest, I think we want it instead of claws
[11:17] <lool> Mithrandir: Can one remove stuff from PPAs nowadays?
[11:17] <Mithrandir> lool: apparently, I can.
[11:17] <lool> Mithrandir: I checked again, and don't see the option
[11:18] <lool> Mithrandir: Interesting; where is this?
[11:18] <Mithrandir> you're not lp_archive on drescher, last time I checked. :-P
[11:18] <lool> Ah; it was a planned LP feature, but still not implemented then
[11:18] <Mithrandir> StevenK: yay, cool.  Any idea when?
[11:18] <lool> Mithrandir: You can remove it if you like; there are other real things in the ppa, but I wouldn't bother
[11:19] <lool> Mithrandir: Simply because ATM, we are likely to have many things older than hardy, and this will regularly happen
[11:19] <Mithrandir> lool: ideally, I'd like us to not have any items in the hardy bit of the PPA.
[11:19] <lool> It will be useful to do such a cleanup when hardy freezes
[11:19] <StevenK> Mithrandir: Well, do you want me to look at libtinymail/modest instead of chat?
[11:19] <lool> Mithrandir: I would like to do with the exception that I still want to be able to list it in sources.list
[11:19] <Mithrandir> StevenK: if you don't mind, yes, please.
[11:19] <lool> Mithrandir: Also, it's very likely that we will use it when hardy freezes and post hardy release
[11:20] <StevenK> Mithrandir: I need to chat to you about chat anyway
[11:20] <Mithrandir> lool: of course, but having it close to empty means answering "what still needs to go into hardy" is a lot easier than if it has too much crap in it.
[11:20] <lool> s/to do/too
[11:20] <Mithrandir> StevenK: oh, chat as in moblin-chat.  Shoot.
[11:20] <lool> Mithrandir: Sure; when I uploaded h-d it was the only and very first hardy module in it :)
[11:20] <StevenK> Mithrandir: As in Pigdin on Maemo
[11:20] <lool> Mithrandir: Now there are other stuff notably icedtea
[11:21] <lool> libdrm, linux, linux-meta, moblin-applets, oo.o, osso-af-settings
[11:21] <StevenK> Mithrandir: I've tried to get a sensible diff between Pidgin and Pigdin on Maemo. It's 766K
[11:21] <lool> Mithrandir: I would appreciate if you could remove osso-af-settings though; the same source is in hardy now; I uploaded to get a build asap and because I can't upload to main
[11:21] <Mithrandir> lool: sure, np.
[11:22] <Mithrandir> StevenK: have you talked to Adilson about the patch?  Or the MID team?
[11:22] <Mithrandir> lool: willdo.
[11:22] <StevenK> Not yet
[11:22] <Mithrandir> lool: icedtea is gutsy, not hardy, iirc?
[11:23] <Mithrandir> there, hildon-desktop, osso-af-settings gone
[11:23] <lool> Mithrandir: Indeed, my mistake on icedtea
[11:24] <Mithrandir> no worries.
[11:24] <Mithrandir> StevenK: ~750k diff just sounds too large, so I'd start by talking to them to see what they have.  Afaik, they have something smaller.
[11:44] <Mithrandir> who is taking responsibility for getting Adilson's moblin-applets package into hardy?  Or has that already happened?
[11:45] <StevenK> Oh, damn. That was me.
[11:45] <StevenK> Sorry, it slipped off of my plate.
[11:45] <StevenK> Mithrandir: I'll check it over and upload it soonish
[11:46] <Mithrandir> cheers.
[13:24] <AtomicPunk>  /nick ToddBrandt