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puboHi all01:09
puboI'm trying to install phpldapadmin. I alreade have installed apache2, but now, when I do aptitude install phpldapadmin, it ask for install apache-common as dependence requisites... ¿Why have I to install apache-common if I have installed apache2?01:12
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thingymabobgot a server installation problem, who can help me out?02:24
thingymabobnevermind, i'll just lay it out.02:25
thingymabobinstalling Ubuntu Server edition.  it gets through most of the installation just fine, then when it's time to "select and install software" it fails on me...I don't have it in front of me, so I can't remember the error it gives me.  then it goes to the overall menu of installing the OS.  ignoring that, figuring I can install that stuff later, I choose to install grub, it makes an attempt then fails, saying it can't install to /target/.  NOTE:  02:28
thingymabobinstalling Ubuntu Server edition.  it gets through most of the installation just fine, then when it's time to "select and install software" it fails on me...I don't have it in front of me, so I can't remember the error it gives me.  then it goes to the overall menu of installing the OS.  ignoring that, figuring I can install that stuff later, I choose to install grub, it makes an attempt then fails, saying it can't install to /target/.  NOTE:  02:49
kgoetznoe what? stop spamming02:49
kgoetz*note what02:49
thingymabob?02:50
kgoetzsaying it can't install to /target/.  NOTE:02:50
thingymabobi'm confused, what are you trying to say?02:51
ajmitchhe's saying that your sentence was cut off02:51
thingymaboboooooh02:51
ajmitchsince there is a limit on how much you can fit on a single line in IRC02:51
thingymabobmy fault.  heres the rest02:51
thingymabobNOTE:  I have looked this up MANY places in MANY forums and all ask to find a "stage1", well, my installation of grub never gets that far.  it only makes the directories.  plus, it won't allow installation of lilo either.  this produces an error 15 at boot up afterwards02:51
ajmitchif it didn't get as far as installing a kernel along with the other base packages, grub & lilo aren't going to help02:52
kgoetzi think we need to know what the error is to help in any useful way02:52
kgoetzcheck your cd has teh correct md5sum for a star though02:52
* kgoetz afk02:52
thingymabobwell, it seems to install everything else normally, at least no errors are shown until then02:53
thingymabobbtw, is it really spamming when I only said that twice with 21 minutes a part from each other?02:53
kgoetzsince *nothing* in the channel had changed, yes02:54
thingymabobi was wondering if anybody actually saw that I typed something.  i'm getting absolutely no response from anybody in the regular ubuntu channel.  i've asked in a couple different ways there.02:56
thingymaboboh, and btw, i checked the cd and image, they are fine02:58
levanderIs there a UI for managing which services run in which runlevel?  Or do Ubuntu people just modify the script names in /etc/init.d?02:59
ScottKthingymabob: On this channel you tend to get more response during the US/European business day that now.02:59
LeChacalI need to install a GUI on my sever to manage somethings every once in a while but i don't want the GUI to start every time the server reboots. So when I install the GUI will it start everytime the PC starts after I install it or will I have to issue 'startx'? If the GUI while auto start with every boot how do I stop that?03:00
thingymabobah03:00
thingymabobscottk: ah03:00
ScottKLeChacal: We don't really do GUI stuff on this channel.03:01
levanderLeChacal: You're actually asking a very similar question that I'm asking.03:01
kgoetzlevander: theres a tool yes03:01
levanderkgoetz: Is it commonly used with Ubuntu?03:01
ScottKBut some people answer anyway ;-)03:01
levanderkgoetz: I kind of like being "standard".03:01
levanderkgoetz: But, even it it's not, I'd still like to know what you recommend.03:01
levanderkgoetz: Still with me?03:02
thingymabobscottK: well, I'm assuming that nobody here has a solid notion of what could be causing this problem, so maybe I'll try again tomorrow.  it seems like it's pretty unique considering that all online sources show similar but not exact errors03:03
LeChacalOK well I thought that I would start here I will try the general ubuntu channel, thanks.03:03
levanderLeChacal: If you install ubuntu-desktop, it's the /etc/init.d/gdm script you want to prevent from running at startup.03:03
kgoetzlevander: i dont remember what it is, i know it exists03:03
levanderLeChacal: The runlevel your computer is in determines which /etc/init.d scripts get run.03:03
levanderLeChacal: I'm in here asking if there's a tool to control them.03:04
levanderLeChacal: That's how are questions are similar.03:04
sommerlevander: update-rc.d is the command you're looking for03:10
sommerScottK: around?03:36
ScottKYeah03:39
ScottKsommer: Did you see the ubuntu-clamav ppa?03:40
sommerplaying with the dapper clamav in the ppa and after removing all my previous stuff I got a Template error when trying to install clamav-freshclam03:40
sommerScottK: pretty cool those ppas03:40
ScottKsommer: Yes.  I just uploaded a fix for that03:40
ScottKWhen ppa4 is built, it should be fine.03:41
sommerScottK: ah, just wanted to make sure it wasn't something in my config03:41
ScottKNo, the Dapper toolchain appears to not like comments in the debconf templates.03:41
sommerany objection to doing some serious cleanup on the wiki page?03:41
sommerah03:42
ScottKI got one in ppa3 thanks to leonel, but forgot to check the other.03:42
ScottKsommer: No, what I'd really like to have is a table (kind of like the MIR table on the Ubuntu server spec wiki page) for Dapper/Edgy/Feisty/Gutsy and each package03:42
sommermakes sense to me03:42
sommerI feel like just starting over... especially since there's a new clamav version03:43
ScottKI think that's fine.  Just make sure I haven't missed any packages03:43
sommerI noticed in the ppa you've started backporting already... that's cool03:43
sommerScottK: sure, will do03:44
sommerwhen I say start over, I think I mean more reorganizing the page.03:44
ScottKGreat.03:44
ScottKGo for it.03:45
sommerthe clamav thing was the first area I got involved with Ubuntu in... seems like I've learned volumes since then03:45
sommerstill have volumes to go though :-)03:45
ScottKDon't we all.03:45
emgentheya03:46
ScottKHi emgent03:47
sommerScottK: is there a way for the ppa to email me when the new builds are done?03:48
ScottKNot that I know of.03:48
* ScottK gets FTBFS mails though.03:48
sommercool, I'll just check back later03:48
inkaicohello03:58
inkaicohow do we know where is conected a printer?03:58
inkaicoif i install a desktop on a server is is possible to remove it after?04:16
ScottKinkaico: Yes04:40
inkaicohi scottk04:42
inkaicoim trying to install a printer on ubuntu server 7.1004:42
inkaicobut i have a lot of problem04:42
ScottKI've never done it.  I just use HP Jet Direct boxes straight on the network.04:47
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GargoyleGood Morning11:38
mok0Hey12:25
sorenHi.12:26
mok0Soren, we are trying to create some kvm virtual servers with bridges to the external network12:26
sorenOh, cool.12:27
mok0For webservice, ftp, named, etc12:27
sorenRight.12:27
* antdedyet grins12:27
mok0It can be done, right? Because my collaborator is in doubt12:27
mok0We have a set of IP numbers for each virtual server12:28
sorenSure it can be done.12:28
sorenIf you set up the host correctly, you can make the kvm's appear as though they were connected directly to the network.12:28
mok0soren: that's exactly what we want.12:29
sorenOk then.12:29
mok0My collaborator thinks we perhaps need to set up a DHCP server is that true12:29
sorenNo.12:29
sorenI haven't tested this much, but all that you should need to do is:12:29
sorenIf you have:12:31
soreniface eth0 inet static12:31
soren   address foo12:31
soren    netmask bar12:31
soren[...]12:31
soren 12:31
sorenYou replace that with:12:31
soreniface bridge0 inet static12:31
soren    pre-up brctl addbr bridge012:31
soren     bridge_ports eth012:31
soren    address foo12:31
soren    netmask bar12:31
soren[...]12:31
mok0soren: OK, thx12:32
mok0If we need to bridge 8 servers, how does that impact performance?12:32
sorenWhen that network configuration has taken effect, virt-manager (if connected to qemu:///system (or running as root) will allow you to choose the bridged network in the network tab.12:32
sorenEr.. Network page of the config wizard.12:32
sorenmok0: Bridging has *very* low overhead.12:33
mok0Is it better to use switched connections to guests?12:33
mok0soren: ok12:33
mok0soren, thx now we have something to work on!!12:33
sorenI usually use the virtual network option as it doesn't interfere with my host's network settings.12:34
sorenEspecially useful if I was using a laptop with network-manager or whatever.12:34
mok0soren: do we need a special vlan for it to work?12:36
sorenmok0: No.12:36
mok0soren: ... because our IP numbers for the guests are on the external network12:37
sorenmok0: Ah, looking at /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/bridge it seems that the pre-up thing above is not necessary12:37
soren(I was typing from memory)12:37
sorenmok0: Setting up the network as I explained will make it appear exactly as though the virtual machines were connected to the same network as the host.12:38
mok0soren: that's great12:39
mok0We will work on it this afternoon; perhaps I can ping you again if we have more questions?12:39
mok0hej jesper12:51
jelkamok0: hej Morten12:51
sorenmok0: Sure, feel free.13:02
rotinigood morning all.  I was just wondering if any of you are using Request Tracker.  On the ubuntu server homepage, I noticed the 'Zero to function LAMP stack in 15 minutes' thing and it really got my attention.  I have yet to find a distro on which the RT config is reasonably easy.  In fact, I'm trying to clone an install from Fedora to Kubuntu right now, and, well...13:13
sommerrotini: I use RT on Ubuntu... works great13:31
sommerrotini: you could say it's reasonably easy, there are some good guides on the RT wiki regarding Ubuntu which worked great for me13:31
rotinisommer: ok, thanks.  RT documentation seems pretty scarce, I even have that O'Reilly book on it.13:33
sommerrotini: heh, I've got that one too, I think it's written using an older version, but from my experience most of it still applies13:33
GargoyleWhat config do I need to edit to get mysql errors and warnings to go into /var/log/mysql.err and not just syslog?13:34
sommerrotini: here's the guide I used: http://wiki.bestpractical.com/view/UbuntuInstallGuide13:36
sommerrotini: there isn't specific instructions for Gutsy, but the Feisty ones should work fine.13:37
GargoyleIs it as simple as adding mysqld.* /var/log/mysql.err to syslog.conf13:37
sommerrotini: you could always update it for Gutsy :-)13:37
Gargoyle?13:37
rotiniGargoyle: don't know, sorry.  where what goes in logs often confuses me.  I grep the hell out of them to find anything...13:50
Gargoylerotini: It's just going into /var/log/syslog, but there are empty mysql.log and mysql.err files.13:51
Gargoylemakes things more than a little confusing.13:51
GargoyleI'll do a google search later, I suspect that the mysql package should be updating /etc/syslog.conf somehow.13:52
rotiniGargoyle: did you try the ubuntu forums?13:54
Gargoylenot yet13:55
rotiniI thought gentoo's forums had a lot of members until I saw ubuntus.  There are like 800 people on there at any given time.13:55
GargoyleGentoo is a great distro for learning a fair bit about command line linux admin, but it takes too damn long to setup!13:57
rotiniyeah, I've been on it for years.  They're having some internal administrative problems, alarmists are saying it's dead, so that's why I'm here.13:58
GargoyleAww that's a shame13:59
GargoyleI used gentoo for 2 webservers a few years ago.14:01
Gargoylebut you can't beat ubuntu server for sheer speed and easyness of installation.14:01
rotiniwell, if it's true, i think it is, but... Kubuntu seems good, and I'm looking forward to trying ubuntu server...14:01
ScottKOne of the things I really like is that under the hood they are the same.14:02
navlopGargoyle: Did u install ebox on sever14:02
Gargoyleebox?14:02
navlopGargoyle: it replaces webmin14:02
navlopGargoyle: or u do everything manually, to manage your server14:03
Gargoyleahh, at the mo yes.14:04
navlopk14:04
GargoyleBut I doubt even ebox will help me setup a mysql->drbd cluster!14:04
rotinihey, you're all server guys?  question: what is the MTA to use?  In just the past 10 days, i've decided that sendmail is useless.  Right now I'm on postfix on my fedora system running RT, but when i installed RT on my kubuntu box (trying to clone the existing instance from the fedora box), it installed exim.  What's the last word on MTAs so I don't have to think about it any more?14:05
Gargoyleis ebox for virtual sites and email type of thing?14:05
lamontpostfix is the preferred one of the team14:05
navlopyeah, its a gui front end to server14:05
Gargoylerotini: I have a postfix server in production. been using it for about a year now.14:06
lamontrotini: but since we stopped modifying packages just to say 'exim| m-t-a' --> 'postfix | m-t-a', you tend to get exim if you didn't already have an MTA installed.14:06
rotiniso maybe postfix edges out exim?  Others have also suggested postfix.  Plus, it's working, so.....14:06
navlopWhy I was asking i'm in the process of putting a server, and i'm not that great at cmd line so I like to use gui once in awhile14:06
* lamont has had postfix in production since 1997 (accidentally, but still)14:07
Gargoylelamont: How do you acccidently put a server into production?14:07
lamontrotini: postfix is my baby.  elmo prefers exim.14:07
lamontGargoyle: sendmail died14:07
rotinilamont: but having postfix installed would satisfy the rt package's deps?  I installed lighttpd alone, but when I installed rt, it pulled in the apache packages anyway...14:07
lamontGargoyle: postfix was listening on inaddr_any, and postfix had the production IP.14:08
lamont2 weeks later, someone on the mailing list I was serving noticed.14:08
Gargoyleahh.14:08
lamontthat was postfix 0.0.19970206 or some such I was running.14:08
lamont(happened in summer 97)14:08
Gargoylelamont: You know any good links on howto setup "out of office" messages using postfix?14:09
lamontman vacation?14:09
Gargoylemope!14:09
Gargoylenope!14:09
lamontwell, I expect you don't want to bounce the mail...14:09
lamontout-of-office is an MUA thing, not an MTA14:10
lamontthing14:10
Gargoylehmmm.14:10
zulwhoops15:01
zulmathiaz: what do you think about #156468?15:01
mathiazbug #15646815:01
ubotuLaunchpad bug 156468 in samba "Missing files for Active Directory support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15646815:01
zulman pages are find but the nss_ifno one is more conerning15:02
mathiazzul: why ?15:02
mathiazzul: you may wanna ask slangasek about it.15:02
zulmathiaz: because im not sure15:02
zulok15:02
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mok0My virtual machine works now!!!16:50
* soren high-fives mok016:59
mok0soren: yay!16:59
sorenmok0: Any difficulties along the way -> bug reports, please. :)16:59
mok0soren: I can't get out of the local domain from the guest17:00
soren"domain" as in "subnet"?17:00
mok0soren: things cleared up when I did a clean install of ubuntu-server and started over17:00
sorenOr "domain" in some other sense?17:00
mok0soren: yes, the "gateway" is the guest host ip17:01
sorenmok0: I see. I've been battling this bridging thing since you asked me about it. I'd really like to make it as painfree as vmware.17:01
soren-> /msg17:02
erast_hie17:47
erast_guys, where i can find list of packages for minimal ubuntu server?17:48
ScottKIs there anyone here with Dapper servers that would be willing to do some testing?  I'm working on backporting the current clamav to Dapper.18:31
* sommer should be able to do more this evening :-)18:32
ScottKsommer: Great.  Please mark test results on the wiki page.18:32
sommersure np18:33
mikonehey, i'm trying to compile the isc dhcpd server with ldap patch on ubuntu gutsy 32-bit and got some dependency problems. it requires at least libldap-2.3 and - more important - it's headers. the library itself is installed properly but it seems like there are no headers available. now, do i really have to compile it myself or are there any chances that there's a package available containing the libldap-2.3 headers (libldap-2.3-dev is no18:37
mikonen-existant)?18:37
sommermikone: you're probably looking for: libldap2-dev18:43
mikoneif it only was the development package for libldap2.3, but unfortunately it's not. the package contains headers and such for libldap-2.118:44
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mikonesommer, at least i think they are as described here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libdevel/libldap2-dev18:46
sommergotcha, I'm not sure about the headers then18:47
mikonethanks anyways :)18:47
oly-hum, anyone know if you can pxe boot the ubuntu desktop image, i know you can do the iso18:47
oly-but can you get the files from the cd and boot using them ?18:47
oly-+can't do an iso i mean18:49
ScottKmikone: IIRC we don't ship libldap-dev on purpose for what seems like a good reason to some people, but I'm not sure what it is.18:50
mikoneI did not want to complain about it - sorry if it seemed like. Maybe there is an older patch which can be satisfied by the version available in the repositories. Just noticed that hardy will contain the same version of libldap-dev so there probably is a good reason to keep it. :)19:01
ScottKNo problem.19:02
firecrotchHi everyone, I was just in the middle of updating a server from feisty to gutsy, and while doing so, my ssh session was disconnected.  I'm pretty sure everything was almost done, but how can I be sure that I won't have problems ?20:20
firecrotchI was updating to gutsy via ssh, was disconnected near the end of the process.  I'm running dpkg --configure -a now, and it's seems to be stuck on "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic".  It's been sitting there for about 20 minutes on that alone20:43
firecrotchAny clue as to what could be going on?20:43
Nafalloit's (re)building the initramfs?20:56
Nafallos/\?$/\./20:56
javaccenare there any common causes of poor gigabit network performance? i am only getting 200mbps instead of 600 or 700 like most people21:17
javaccenthat is with iPerf21:17
XiXaQwhen I copy files to /etc/skel, then all files are supposed to be copy from that onto each new users homes, right?23:57
leonelyes23:58
XiXaQstrange. I made a user "proto", configured it the way I want new users configured, and copied all its files to /etc/skel. I then created a new user, but it wasn't configured as I thought it would be.23:59

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