| bryce | tjaalton: do we have many bugs against -vesa? | 07:53 |
|---|---|---|
| bryce | 12, hmm | 07:54 |
| bryce | wow, the vesa driver is all in one .c file | 08:00 |
| tjaalton | something like that | 08:00 |
| bryce | 1873 lines | 08:00 |
| tjaalton | ye | 08:00 |
| tjaalton | s | 08:00 |
| bryce | do you know if there's any development work needed for vesa? | 08:00 |
| bryce | or is it intended to be kept "trivial"? | 08:01 |
| tjaalton | well, there still seems to be some problems with getting valid modes for r5xx | 08:03 |
| tjaalton | but that should be "fixed" when those use ati or radeonhd | 08:03 |
| bryce | hmm | 08:04 |
| tjaalton | bug 174434 | 08:04 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 174434 in xserver-xorg-video-vesa "[ATI X1300] Could not generate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174434 | 08:04 |
| tjaalton | the title is just a symptom | 08:05 |
| bryce | oh yeah, I was just looking at that | 08:05 |
| ubotu | New bug: #183961 in xorg-server (main) "X Window System error while starting easyeclipse 1.2.2.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183961 | 08:05 |
| bryce | btw, I passed on your comments about drm issues to intel; hopefully that stimulates getting some traction towards addressing the issues. | 08:08 |
| bryce | wow, -intel is 33,000 lines, and -ati is over 80,000 | 08:12 |
| bryce | I would have suspected those numbers reversed | 08:13 |
| bryce | huh, and -nv is 19,000 | 08:13 |
| bryce | -psb is 16,500, not too shabby | 08:18 |
| ubotu | New bug: #183969 in xorg-server (main) "xserver-xorg-core update breaks VLC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 | 08:21 |
| tjaalton | bryce: ok, cool | 08:53 |
| bryce | tjaalton: do you know if anyone's tried getting triple head running with an intel on-board chip plus an ati dual-output card? | 08:56 |
| tjaalton | never heard of such | 08:56 |
| bryce | I'm thinking of throwing some coding energy (after inkscape 0.46 is in the bag) towards making that work, if someone hasn't beaten me to it | 08:56 |
| bryce | I'm figuring intel and amd don't have a lot of incentive to make each other's products work together, so it's not likely to be something that gets fixed on its own | 08:57 |
| tjaalton | I understood that it needs some plumbing before it can work | 08:58 |
| bryce | I know it'd require ttm in order to stitch the screens together... but what plumbing beyond that? | 08:59 |
| tjaalton | well you said it :) | 09:00 |
| bryce | heh, ok | 09:00 |
| bryce | ttm + misc. bug fixes | 09:00 |
| tjaalton | but maybe xrandr-1.3 had something to do with it IIRC | 09:00 |
| bryce | tjaalton: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/183969 | 10:21 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 183969 in xorg-server "xserver-xorg-core update breaks java apps" [High,Confirmed] | 10:21 |
| tjaalton | known | 10:21 |
| tjaalton | oh | 10:22 |
| tjaalton | sorry I thought that was hardy | 10:22 |
| tjaalton | so the security updates broke that? | 10:22 |
| bryce | hmm, is that what did it? | 10:23 |
| tjaalton | only changes in .1 | 10:23 |
| bryce | weird, I'd numbered my release 12ubuntu9 iir | 10:24 |
| bryce | c | 10:24 |
| bryce | ohhhh | 10:24 |
| bryce | I recognize those error messages; java must be using some out of bounds conditions or something | 10:25 |
| bryce | rats | 10:26 |
| bryce | tjaalton: sorry; this one looks to be my fault. I'll sort it out tomorrow. | 10:29 |
| tjaalton | oh :/ | 10:30 |
| tjaalton | I can do a merge for hardy | 10:30 |
| tjaalton | debian has the patches already | 10:30 |
| tjaalton | bryce: is there a typo or something? | 10:30 |
| bryce | no idea | 10:30 |
| bryce | but if there was an issue, I should have caught it when reviewing the patches for hardy | 10:31 |
| tjaalton | ok | 10:31 |
| bryce | kees did the uploads for gutsy iirc | 10:31 |
| tjaalton | hmm | 10:41 |
| tjaalton | actually.. are the X and java security issues dependant on each other? | 10:41 |
| tjaalton | I mean does java need to be updated if the X is updated | 10:42 |
| ubotu | New bug: #183993 in xorg-server (main) "Could not Start Eclipse Rich-Clients after latest xorg-server update (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183993 | 10:43 |
| ubotu | New bug: #183994 in xorg-server (main) "After security update to 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1 can't start Eclipse Europa (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183994 | 10:43 |
| ubotu | New bug: #183996 in xorg-server (main) "Eclipse SDK 3.2.2 (with aptana plugin) crashes after xserver-xorg-core update (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183996 | 10:43 |
| tjaalton | maybe not | 10:43 |
| ubotu | New bug: #183986 in eclipse (universe) "Eclipse crashes after xserver-xorg-core update (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183986 | 10:44 |
| ubotu | New bug: #183987 in pgadmin3 (universe) "PGAdmin3 won't start after xorg-core upgrade (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183987 | 10:44 |
| Q-FUNK | ok, we have one confirmation that the patched xserver-xorg-core fixes -amd in bug #140051 | 11:10 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 140051 in xserver-xorg-video-amd "amd driver fails to autoconfigure" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140051 | 11:10 |
| jcristau | meh. http://bugs.debian.org/461410 so it's not just you... | 11:36 |
| tjaalton | right :/ | 11:48 |
| ubotu | New bug: #183974 in xserver-xorg-input-keyboard (main) "KB language setting resets at reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183974 | 12:00 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184004 in xorg (main) "Eclipse no longer works after upgrading to xserver-xorg-core-...-ubuntu8.1 (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184004 | 12:01 |
| jcristau | can i blame java anyway? :) | 12:01 |
| tjaalton | hehe | 12:03 |
| jcristau | i suspect it's the mit-shm patch, but i don't have any swt app here to easily test | 12:04 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184003 in xorg-server (main) ""BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)" error when run amule or filezilla with xserver-xorg-core version 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1 (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184003 | 12:06 |
| tjaalton | hmmh? enabling exa made the problem go away for one reporter | 12:43 |
| tjaalton | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/183969/comments/17 | 12:43 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 183969 in xorg-server "xserver-xorg-core update breaks java apps" [Critical,Confirmed] | 12:43 |
| jcristau | these "me too" are soooo useful... | 13:16 |
| tjaalton | very.. | 13:17 |
| jcristau | tjaalton: exa doesn't support shared pixmaps, maybe that makes the bug go away | 13:22 |
| tjaalton | ah, makes sense | 13:23 |
| jcristau | are you able to reproduce it? | 13:25 |
| tjaalton | hmm, I'll try on my laptop (intel) | 13:25 |
| jcristau | the crash, i mean | 13:25 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184018 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "no terminal/console screens with new proposed xserver-xorg-video-intel 9.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184018 | 13:26 |
| jcristau | i'd like to confirm it's the ProcShmCreatePixmap check | 13:27 |
| tjaalton | hmm, I can't get anything useful out of vlc | 13:33 |
| tjaalton | trying azureus | 13:35 |
| tjaalton | duh, how do I get a backtrace from it? need to set a breakpoint? | 13:41 |
| jcristau | getting the name of the failing request would be a start | 13:42 |
| tjaalton | request_code 146? | 13:43 |
| jcristau | xdpyinfo -ext MIT-SHM | 13:43 |
| jcristau | should tell you the corresponding opcode | 13:43 |
| tjaalton | opcode: 146, base event: 94, base error: 170 | 13:45 |
| jcristau | ok that's the one then | 13:45 |
| jcristau | mailed xorg@. maybe i should have sent it to xorg_security too... | 13:50 |
| tjaalton | cool | 13:53 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184029 in xorg-server (main) "emacs22 icon blank after xserver-xorg-core 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1 update and Xfce" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184029 | 14:11 |
| jcristau | got confirmation from another reporter that disabling mit-shm works around the problem | 14:17 |
| tjaalton | how to do that? | 14:18 |
| jcristau | Option "MIT-SHM" "no" in the Extensions section | 14:18 |
| tjaalton | ok, thanks | 14:18 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184032 in ubuntu "VLC media player fails to start (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184032 | 14:45 |
| tjaalton | keep'em coming | 14:46 |
| jcristau | tjaalton: got a report that amd64 isn't affected | 15:00 |
| tjaalton | hmm, good to know | 15:03 |
| jcristau | there's an if (sizeof(long) == 4) in the patch though :) | 15:08 |
| jcristau | so that's not completely unexpected | 15:08 |
| tjaalton | hehe | 15:09 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184044 in eclipse (universe) "Eclipse won't start anymore (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184044 | 15:51 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184046 in ubuntu "Eclipse's crashing after X update (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184046 | 15:51 |
| tjaalton | "whee", new fglrx | 16:35 |
| tjaalton | catalyst 8.1 aka 8.452 | 16:35 |
| Q-FUNK | anybody wants to try porting bartman's x86emu patches to 1.4 ? | 16:35 |
| tjaalton | not me, at least not now :) | 16:36 |
| tjaalton | need to go shopping | 16:36 |
| tjaalton | jcristau: we've reverted the security updates... | 16:38 |
| tjaalton | until it's fixed properly | 16:38 |
| jcristau | tjaalton: all of them, or just that one patch? | 16:39 |
| tjaalton | all of them, just to be sure | 16:39 |
| jcristau | ok | 16:39 |
| tjaalton | I was tempted to upload a version to hardy with just the one patch dropped | 16:40 |
| tjaalton | but dropped them all anyway | 16:40 |
| keescook | might be reasonable to do that for hardy -- just to test the others. | 16:40 |
| tjaalton | keescook: well, I did it already. You can play with it if you like :) | 16:40 |
| keescook | tjaalton: heh, okay. | 16:41 |
| keescook | I don't understand why that chunk of code fails, though. the tests _seem_ sane. | 16:41 |
| tjaalton | I'll build it locally without that patch | 16:42 |
| tjaalton | and put it on my laptop | 16:42 |
| jcristau | would be nice if someone would add some debugf's in there to know which check is failing and why | 16:44 |
| bryce | did the patches break on hardy as well? | 16:59 |
| tjaalton | yes | 17:00 |
| tjaalton | I tried it.. | 17:00 |
| bryce | hrm | 17:00 |
| bryce | keescook: next week in London perhaps we could put some thoughts together about a regression test suite | 17:01 |
| * tjaalton goes out, bbl | 17:01 | |
| bryce | tjaalton: thanks, cya | 17:02 |
| keescook | bryce: yeah | 17:03 |
| keescook | bryce: mostly we just need an extension exerciser. | 17:03 |
| bryce | I suspect many bugs would be caught by just trying to start X, and take a screen cap, but others are more involved | 17:04 |
| jcristau | i'd been using the patched version for a week without noticing anything fwiw | 17:04 |
| keescook | bryce: well, I might have noticed had I tested on i386 -- I only used amd64 this time. *sigh* | 17:04 |
| jcristau | but then i don't use the apps that have been reported as broken by the update | 17:05 |
| bryce | yeah I don't make a habit of testing java apps. hmm | 17:06 |
| keescook | I've suddenly grown a new habit. ;) | 17:06 |
| bryce | ;-) | 17:06 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184000 in ubuntu "wxPython apps fail after xserver update (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184000 | 17:09 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184079 in xorg-server (main) "Update xserver-xorg-core broke Eclipse (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184079 | 17:09 |
| keescook | jcristau: what's the right way to report debug messages from an extension? | 17:09 |
| Q-FUNK | bryce: hiya. any chance bartman's patches could go into X 1.4? | 17:09 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184078 in xorg (main) "keyboard stops working until logout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184078 | 17:10 |
| bryce | hi Q-FUNK, not today (i'm busy getting ready for my flight out tomorrow). | 17:10 |
| bryce | possibly next week, however I've learned it's quite tough trying to get packaging done at a conference | 17:11 |
| jcristau | well, for debugging printf should work | 17:11 |
| keescook | jcristau: okay, cool -- I wasn't sure if it shut down std fds | 17:12 |
| jcristau | hrm | 17:12 |
| jcristau | you're right | 17:12 |
| jcristau | lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Jan 18 18:12 2 -> /dev/null | 17:12 |
| bryce | Q-FUNK: if I have a chance today, and if the patches go in cleanly, I'll try to get to it later in the day | 17:12 |
| jcristau | keescook: let me check | 17:13 |
| Q-FUNK | bryce: lovely. if they work, can you pass them over to jcristau for inclusion into Debian too? | 17:14 |
| keescook | jcristau: I've found other mentions of fprintf(stderr, so I'll give that a quick spin | 17:15 |
| jcristau | keescook: you can use ErrorF | 17:15 |
| jcristau | (and #include "os.h", if needed) | 17:16 |
| keescook | jcristau: okay, building now | 17:17 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184085 in wacom-tools (main) "in xsetwacom, setting button2 also sets button1" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184085 | 17:30 |
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| mvo | what is the master bug for the xbork problem? I got some 403 errors that I would like to reassign there | 17:43 |
| jcristau | mvo: 183969 | 17:45 |
| mvo | thanks jcristau | 17:47 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184088 in xorg-server (main) "permission problem on .deb download from synaptic (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184088 | 17:56 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184094 in xorg (main) "broken input in wine/crossover after updating xorg" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184094 | 17:57 |
| bdmurray | I've written a bughelper clue file for 183969 using the string "serial 477 error_code 11 request_code 144". Is that a reasonable string to use? | 17:59 |
| jcristau | the serial number and request code will vary | 18:00 |
| keescook | ProcShmCreatePixmap (size < width * height) size: 12288 width: 1536 height: 64 | 18:00 |
| bdmurray | What would be a better string to uniquely identify the bug then? | 18:00 |
| jcristau | keescook: thanks | 18:03 |
| keescook | jcristau: is there another channel that is better to follow along with debugging this issue? | 18:04 |
| jcristau | 12288 is 1536*64/8 | 18:04 |
| keescook | size is coming from PixmapBytePad ... | 18:05 |
| jcristau | #define PixmapBytePad(w, d) \ (PixmapWidthInPadUnits(w, d) << PixmapWidthPaddingInfo[d].padBytesLog2) | 18:05 |
| keescook | yeah | 18:05 |
| keescook | PixmapBytePad is returning 192... (which is smaller than width?!) | 18:06 |
| jcristau | yeah it's width/8 | 18:06 |
| jcristau | i guess #xorg-devel would be the best place | 18:07 |
| keescook | jcristau: what nick does Matthieu Herrb use? | 18:09 |
| jcristau | i don't think he's on irc | 18:09 |
| keescook | ah | 18:09 |
| jcristau | and airlied seems offline too :/ | 18:09 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184082 in boinc (universe) "'boincmgr' received an X Window System error (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184082 | 18:36 |
| ubotu | New bug: #183922 in xorg (main) "Xorg crashes after using Microsoft Word 2003 in Wine." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183922 | 18:39 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184134 in xorg-server (main) "X.org security update broke Eclipse" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184134 | 19:46 |
| ubotu | New bug: #163642 in xorg (main) "Maximum choosable resolution is too low even with nvidia driver" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163642 | 20:02 |
| bryce | keescook: do you think that java error could show up in wine crashes? The timing of #183922 seems suspicious. | 20:03 |
| jcristau | bryce: that bug title says "Xorg crashes", not "app crashes"? | 20:04 |
| bryce | ah ok | 20:04 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184147 in xorg-server (main) "[Feisty] 403 Forbidden http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.2.0-3ubuntu8.1_i386.deb" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184147 | 20:15 |
| keescook | bryce: it does make me a give nervous -- his log shows the updated X server. but as jcristau says, it's not the bug we're currently fixing. | 20:18 |
| bryce | ok; I gave general directions for getting an X backtrace. we'll see where it goes | 20:19 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184151 in xorg-server (main) "amule fails to start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184151 | 20:30 |
| jcristau | wow, your users really don't know to search for existing bugs | 20:31 |
| bryce | welcome to our world ;-) | 20:51 |
| bryce | actually it's quite tragic - when they *do* search for existing bugs, they invariably pick one that isn't actually the same bug | 20:51 |
| jcristau | heh | 20:51 |
| bryce | so I think we drop a lot of issues just because we have to focus on the original reporter's issue to the exclusion of the me-too-ers; we ask them to file separate bugs, but I don't know how often they actually do | 20:52 |
| jcristau | i don't think there's another way | 20:52 |
| * bryce nods | 20:53 | |
| jcristau | (of course, just when i think debian users are marginally better, i see a bug filed on amule for the same issue, and i get another on xserver-xorg-core) | 20:55 |
| bryce | heh | 20:57 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184169 in xorg-server (universe) "eclipse crashes on launching with a bad alloc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184169 | 21:31 |
| tjaalton | I'll merge the xserver for hardy | 22:55 |
| tjaalton | now that the fix is included in debian \o/ | 22:55 |
| jcristau | meh. clueless people ranting on lwn... | 22:57 |
| tjaalton | jcristau: link? | 22:58 |
| jcristau | http://lwn.net/Articles/265754/ | 22:59 |
| tjaalton | haha | 23:00 |
| tjaalton | "once again".. | 23:00 |
| tjaalton | he has a good memory | 23:00 |
| tjaalton | it's been 1.5 years without any incident though ;) | 23:01 |
| tjaalton | and this time really hurt all the distros | 23:01 |
| jcristau | well there was a bit of trouble with the last libX11 fix too | 23:02 |
| tjaalton | oh right | 23:02 |
| tjaalton | my memory isn't that great | 23:02 |
| jcristau | :) | 23:02 |
| tjaalton | <g> | 23:02 |
| tjaalton | duh, I'm having hard time merging/pulling with a tag.. it keeps getting it all | 23:14 |
| jcristau | git-pull . tag <tag> | 23:14 |
| tjaalton | hmm | 23:15 |
| tjaalton | yeah, looks a lot better, thanks | 23:16 |
| tjaalton | not that the patch wouldn't be useful, but it messes up the changelog | 23:16 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184191 in vlc (universe) "(gutsy) vlc crash on startup (serial 472 error_code 11) (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184191 | 23:41 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184192 in vlc (universe) "vlc wont start (hardy) (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184192 | 23:46 |
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