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brycetjaalton: do we have many bugs against -vesa?07:53
bryce12, hmm07:54
brycewow, the vesa driver is all in one .c file08:00
tjaaltonsomething like that08:00
bryce1873 lines08:00
tjaaltonye08:00
tjaaltons08:00
brycedo you know if there's any development work needed for vesa?08:00
bryceor is it intended to be kept "trivial"?08:01
tjaaltonwell, there still seems to be some problems with getting valid modes for r5xx08:03
tjaaltonbut that should be "fixed" when those use ati or radeonhd08:03
brycehmm08:04
tjaaltonbug 17443408:04
ubotuLaunchpad bug 174434 in xserver-xorg-video-vesa "[ATI X1300] Could not generate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17443408:04
tjaaltonthe title is just a symptom08:05
bryceoh yeah, I was just looking at that08:05
ubotuNew bug: #183961 in xorg-server (main) "X Window System error while starting easyeclipse 1.2.2.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18396108:05
brycebtw, I passed on your comments about drm issues to intel; hopefully that stimulates getting some traction towards addressing the issues.08:08
brycewow, -intel is 33,000 lines, and -ati is over 80,00008:12
bryceI would have suspected those numbers reversed08:13
brycehuh, and -nv is 19,00008:13
bryce-psb is 16,500, not too shabby08:18
ubotuNew bug: #183969 in xorg-server (main) "xserver-xorg-core update breaks VLC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18396908:21
tjaaltonbryce: ok, cool08:53
brycetjaalton: do you know if anyone's tried getting triple head running with an intel on-board chip plus an ati dual-output card?08:56
tjaaltonnever heard of such08:56
bryceI'm thinking of throwing some coding energy (after inkscape 0.46 is in the bag) towards making that work, if someone hasn't beaten me to it08:56
bryceI'm figuring intel and amd don't have a lot of incentive to make each other's products work together, so it's not likely to be something that gets fixed on its own08:57
tjaaltonI understood that it needs some plumbing before it can work08:58
bryceI know it'd require ttm in order to stitch the screens together...  but what plumbing beyond that?08:59
tjaaltonwell you said it :)09:00
bryceheh, ok09:00
brycettm + misc. bug fixes09:00
tjaaltonbut maybe xrandr-1.3 had something to do with it IIRC09:00
brycetjaalton: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/18396910:21
ubotuLaunchpad bug 183969 in xorg-server "xserver-xorg-core update breaks java apps" [High,Confirmed] 10:21
tjaaltonknown10:21
tjaaltonoh10:22
tjaaltonsorry I thought that was hardy10:22
tjaaltonso the security updates broke that?10:22
brycehmm, is that what did it?10:23
tjaaltononly changes in .110:23
bryceweird, I'd numbered my release 12ubuntu9 iir10:24
brycec10:24
bryceohhhh10:24
bryceI recognize those error messages; java must be using some out of bounds conditions or something10:25
brycerats10:26
brycetjaalton: sorry; this one looks to be my fault.  I'll sort it out tomorrow.10:29
tjaaltonoh :/10:30
tjaaltonI can do a merge for hardy10:30
tjaaltondebian has the patches already10:30
tjaaltonbryce: is there a typo or something?10:30
bryceno idea10:30
brycebut if there was an issue, I should have caught it when reviewing the patches for hardy10:31
tjaaltonok10:31
brycekees did the uploads for gutsy iirc10:31
tjaaltonhmm10:41
tjaaltonactually.. are the X and java security issues dependant on each other?10:41
tjaaltonI mean does java need to be updated if the X is updated10:42
ubotuNew bug: #183993 in xorg-server (main) "Could not Start Eclipse Rich-Clients after latest xorg-server update (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18399310:43
ubotuNew bug: #183994 in xorg-server (main) "After security update to 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1 can't start Eclipse Europa (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18399410:43
ubotuNew bug: #183996 in xorg-server (main) "Eclipse SDK 3.2.2 (with aptana plugin) crashes after xserver-xorg-core update (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18399610:43
tjaaltonmaybe not10:43
ubotuNew bug: #183986 in eclipse (universe) "Eclipse crashes after xserver-xorg-core update (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18398610:44
ubotuNew bug: #183987 in pgadmin3 (universe) "PGAdmin3 won't start after xorg-core upgrade (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18398710:44
Q-FUNKok, we have one confirmation that the patched xserver-xorg-core fixes -amd in bug #14005111:10
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140051 in xserver-xorg-video-amd "amd driver fails to autoconfigure" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14005111:10
jcristaumeh. http://bugs.debian.org/461410 so it's not just you...11:36
tjaaltonright :/11:48
ubotuNew bug: #183974 in xserver-xorg-input-keyboard (main) "KB language setting resets at reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18397412:00
ubotuNew bug: #184004 in xorg (main) "Eclipse no longer works after upgrading to xserver-xorg-core-...-ubuntu8.1 (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18400412:01
jcristaucan i blame java anyway? :)12:01
tjaaltonhehe12:03
jcristaui suspect it's the mit-shm patch, but i don't have any swt app here to easily test12:04
ubotuNew bug: #184003 in xorg-server (main) ""BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)" error when run amule or filezilla with xserver-xorg-core version 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1 (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18400312:06
tjaaltonhmmh? enabling exa made the problem go away for one reporter12:43
tjaaltonhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/183969/comments/1712:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 183969 in xorg-server "xserver-xorg-core update breaks java apps" [Critical,Confirmed] 12:43
jcristauthese "me too" are soooo useful...13:16
tjaaltonvery..13:17
jcristautjaalton: exa doesn't support shared pixmaps, maybe that makes the bug go away13:22
tjaaltonah, makes sense13:23
jcristauare you able to reproduce it?13:25
tjaaltonhmm, I'll try on my laptop (intel)13:25
jcristauthe crash, i mean13:25
ubotuNew bug: #184018 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "no terminal/console screens with new proposed xserver-xorg-video-intel 9.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18401813:26
jcristaui'd like to confirm it's the ProcShmCreatePixmap check13:27
tjaaltonhmm, I can't get anything useful out of vlc13:33
tjaaltontrying azureus13:35
tjaaltonduh, how do I get a backtrace from it? need to set a breakpoint?13:41
jcristaugetting the name of the failing request would be a start13:42
tjaaltonrequest_code 146?13:43
jcristauxdpyinfo -ext MIT-SHM13:43
jcristaushould tell you the corresponding opcode13:43
tjaaltonopcode: 146, base event: 94, base error: 17013:45
jcristauok that's the one then13:45
jcristaumailed xorg@. maybe i should have sent it to xorg_security too...13:50
tjaaltoncool13:53
ubotuNew bug: #184029 in xorg-server (main) "emacs22 icon blank after xserver-xorg-core 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1 update and Xfce" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18402914:11
jcristaugot confirmation from another reporter that disabling mit-shm works around the problem14:17
tjaaltonhow to do that?14:18
jcristauOption "MIT-SHM" "no" in the Extensions section14:18
tjaaltonok, thanks14:18
ubotuNew bug: #184032 in ubuntu "VLC media player fails to start (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18403214:45
tjaaltonkeep'em coming14:46
jcristautjaalton: got a report that amd64 isn't affected15:00
tjaaltonhmm, good to know15:03
jcristauthere's an if (sizeof(long) == 4) in the patch though :)15:08
jcristauso that's not completely unexpected15:08
tjaaltonhehe15:09
ubotuNew bug: #184044 in eclipse (universe) "Eclipse won't start anymore (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18404415:51
ubotuNew bug: #184046 in ubuntu "Eclipse's crashing after X update (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18404615:51
tjaalton"whee", new fglrx16:35
tjaaltoncatalyst 8.1 aka 8.45216:35
Q-FUNKanybody wants to try porting bartman's x86emu patches to 1.4 ?16:35
tjaaltonnot me, at least not now :)16:36
tjaaltonneed to go shopping16:36
tjaaltonjcristau: we've reverted the security updates...16:38
tjaaltonuntil it's fixed properly16:38
jcristautjaalton: all of them, or just that one patch?16:39
tjaaltonall of them, just to be sure16:39
jcristauok16:39
tjaaltonI was tempted to upload a version to hardy with just the one patch dropped16:40
tjaaltonbut dropped them all anyway16:40
keescookmight be reasonable to do that for hardy -- just to test the others.16:40
tjaaltonkeescook: well, I did it already. You can play with it if you like :)16:40
keescooktjaalton: heh, okay.16:41
keescookI don't understand why that chunk of code fails, though.  the tests _seem_ sane.16:41
tjaaltonI'll build it locally without that patch16:42
tjaaltonand put it on my laptop16:42
jcristauwould be nice if someone would add some debugf's in there to know which check is failing and why16:44
brycedid the patches break on hardy as well?16:59
tjaaltonyes17:00
tjaaltonI tried it..17:00
brycehrm17:00
brycekeescook: next week in London perhaps we could put some thoughts together about a regression test suite17:01
* tjaalton goes out, bbl17:01
brycetjaalton: thanks, cya17:02
keescookbryce: yeah17:03
keescookbryce: mostly we just need an extension exerciser.17:03
bryceI suspect many bugs would be caught by just trying to start X, and take a screen cap, but others are more involved17:04
jcristaui'd been using the patched version for a week without noticing anything fwiw17:04
keescookbryce: well, I might have noticed had I tested on i386 -- I only used amd64 this time.  *sigh*17:04
jcristaubut then i don't use the apps that have been reported as broken by the update17:05
bryceyeah I don't make a habit of testing java apps.  hmm17:06
keescookI've suddenly grown a new habit.  ;)17:06
bryce;-)17:06
ubotuNew bug: #184000 in ubuntu "wxPython apps fail after xserver update (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18400017:09
ubotuNew bug: #184079 in xorg-server (main) "Update xserver-xorg-core broke Eclipse (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18407917:09
keescookjcristau: what's the right way to report debug messages from an extension?17:09
Q-FUNKbryce: hiya.  any chance bartman's patches could go into X 1.4?17:09
ubotuNew bug: #184078 in xorg (main) "keyboard stops working until logout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18407817:10
brycehi Q-FUNK, not today (i'm busy getting ready for my flight out tomorrow).17:10
brycepossibly next week, however I've learned it's quite tough trying to get packaging done at a conference17:11
jcristauwell, for debugging printf should work17:11
keescookjcristau: okay, cool -- I wasn't sure if it shut down std fds17:12
jcristauhrm17:12
jcristauyou're right17:12
jcristaulrwx------ 1 root root 64 Jan 18 18:12 2 -> /dev/null17:12
bryceQ-FUNK: if I have a chance today, and if the patches go in cleanly, I'll try to get to it later in the day17:12
jcristaukeescook: let me check17:13
Q-FUNKbryce: lovely.  if they work, can you pass them over to jcristau for inclusion into Debian too?17:14
keescookjcristau: I've found other mentions of fprintf(stderr, so I'll give that a quick spin17:15
jcristaukeescook: you can use ErrorF17:15
jcristau(and #include "os.h", if needed)17:16
keescookjcristau: okay, building now17:17
ubotuNew bug: #184085 in wacom-tools (main) "in xsetwacom, setting button2 also sets button1" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18408517:30
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mvowhat is the master bug for the xbork problem? I got some 403 errors that I would like to reassign there17:43
jcristaumvo: 18396917:45
mvothanks jcristau17:47
ubotuNew bug: #184088 in xorg-server (main) "permission problem on .deb download from synaptic (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18408817:56
ubotuNew bug: #184094 in xorg (main) "broken input in wine/crossover after updating xorg" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18409417:57
bdmurrayI've written a bughelper clue file for 183969 using the string "serial 477 error_code 11 request_code 144".  Is that a reasonable string to use?17:59
jcristauthe serial number and request code will vary18:00
keescookProcShmCreatePixmap (size < width * height) size: 12288 width: 1536 height: 6418:00
bdmurrayWhat would be a better string to uniquely identify the bug then?18:00
jcristaukeescook: thanks18:03
keescookjcristau: is there another channel that is better to follow along with debugging this issue?18:04
jcristau12288 is 1536*64/818:04
keescooksize is coming from PixmapBytePad ...18:05
jcristau#define PixmapBytePad(w, d) \ (PixmapWidthInPadUnits(w, d) << PixmapWidthPaddingInfo[d].padBytesLog2)18:05
keescookyeah18:05
keescookPixmapBytePad is returning 192... (which is smaller than width?!)18:06
jcristauyeah it's width/818:06
jcristaui guess #xorg-devel would be the best place18:07
keescookjcristau: what nick does Matthieu Herrb use?18:09
jcristaui don't think he's on irc18:09
keescookah18:09
jcristauand airlied seems offline too :/18:09
ubotuNew bug: #184082 in boinc (universe) "'boincmgr' received an X Window System error (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18408218:36
ubotuNew bug: #183922 in xorg (main) "Xorg crashes after using Microsoft Word 2003 in Wine." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18392218:39
ubotuNew bug: #184134 in xorg-server (main) "X.org security update broke Eclipse" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18413419:46
ubotuNew bug: #163642 in xorg (main) "Maximum choosable resolution is too low even with nvidia driver" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16364220:02
brycekeescook: do you think that java error could show up in wine crashes?  The timing of #183922 seems suspicious.20:03
jcristaubryce: that bug title says "Xorg crashes", not "app crashes"?20:04
bryceah ok20:04
ubotuNew bug: #184147 in xorg-server (main) "[Feisty] 403 Forbidden http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.2.0-3ubuntu8.1_i386.deb" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18414720:15
keescookbryce: it does make me a give nervous -- his log shows the updated X server.  but as jcristau says, it's not the bug we're currently fixing.20:18
bryceok; I gave general directions for getting an X backtrace.  we'll see where it goes20:19
ubotuNew bug: #184151 in xorg-server (main) "amule fails to start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18415120:30
jcristauwow, your users really don't know to search for existing bugs20:31
brycewelcome to our world ;-)20:51
bryceactually it's quite tragic - when they *do* search for existing bugs, they invariably pick one that isn't actually the same bug20:51
jcristauheh20:51
bryceso I think we drop a lot of issues just because we have to focus on the original reporter's issue to the exclusion of the me-too-ers; we ask them to file separate bugs, but I don't know how often they actually do20:52
jcristaui don't think there's another way20:52
* bryce nods20:53
jcristau(of course, just when i think debian users are marginally better, i see a bug filed on amule for the same issue, and i get another on xserver-xorg-core)20:55
bryceheh20:57
ubotuNew bug: #184169 in xorg-server (universe) "eclipse crashes on launching with a bad alloc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18416921:31
tjaaltonI'll merge the xserver for hardy22:55
tjaaltonnow that the fix is included in debian \o/22:55
jcristaumeh. clueless people ranting on lwn...22:57
tjaaltonjcristau: link?22:58
jcristauhttp://lwn.net/Articles/265754/22:59
tjaaltonhaha23:00
tjaalton"once again"..23:00
tjaaltonhe has a good memory23:00
tjaaltonit's been 1.5 years without any incident though ;)23:01
tjaaltonand this time really hurt all the distros23:01
jcristauwell there was a bit of trouble with the last libX11 fix too23:02
tjaaltonoh right23:02
tjaaltonmy memory isn't that great23:02
jcristau:)23:02
tjaalton<g>23:02
tjaaltonduh, I'm having hard time merging/pulling with a tag.. it keeps getting it all23:14
jcristaugit-pull . tag <tag>23:14
tjaaltonhmm23:15
tjaaltonyeah, looks a lot better, thanks23:16
tjaaltonnot that the patch wouldn't be useful, but it messes up the changelog23:16
ubotuNew bug: #184191 in vlc (universe) "(gutsy) vlc crash on startup (serial 472 error_code 11) (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18419123:41
ubotuNew bug: #184192 in vlc (universe) "vlc wont start (hardy) (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18419223:46

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