[00:00] <FluxD> neverblue, I am sitting at home on an xp computer server is at a datacenter
[00:00] <pike_> misslecommander_: nope
[00:00] <misslecommander_> oh no
[00:00] <misslecommander_> it was doing that in pigdin too
[00:00] <neverblue> FluxD, then you need to edit 'sudo nano /etc/ssh/ssh_config' and uncomment out 'X11Forwarding yes'
[00:00] <JustChill> is there an active antivirus scanner anyone know of one
[00:00] <RootyRootRootWoo> Hi, when I download any file and the "save to" explorer [?] window opens, Gnome blanks out the file name in the "Save as" dialog box. Anyone know of a solution?
[00:00] <MystaMax> !virus
[00:00] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[00:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !virus
[00:00] <willscarlet^^> filthpig  .... amsn is better, cheers!!
[00:00] <misslecommander_> pike : can u message me, so i can see if i even get them?
[00:00] <FluxD> neverblue, ok let me do that
[00:01] <Peppermint_Roo> I was just wondering... is there a way to change the background in the console (alt+ctrl+1)?  In SUSE it's very clean and beautiful with just a slight graphic, but in Ubuntu it's flat black.
[00:01] <misslecommander_> ok i see message :  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems
[00:01] <Destino> buenas
[00:01] <misslecommander_> so prob not me/you
[00:01] <neverblue> FluxD, that will all X apps to run, you can use 'xeyes' to test that its working
[00:02] <neverblue> FluxD, not 100% sure no how Windows will handle everything on its end
[00:03] <John_R> hi folks. i have a problem, maybe you can help. i have an old dell desktop box with an intel graphics card that uses i810 drivers. the only resolution i can get is 1024X768@85hz. but the mointor doesn't like 85hz, and it jumps slightly all the time. any idea how i can change the refresh rate?
[00:04] <FluxD> neverblue, http://pastebin.ca/859217 I dont see that one
[00:04] <misslecommander_> John_r : i cant even change my monitor refresh rate, i wish i could
[00:04] <Ubunoob> Question: my ubuntu pc will not start up. Message error on screen reads "*Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [OK]" Any help would be appreciated.
[00:04] <misslecommander_> 60hz all i get, it is very bad for my eyes
[00:05] <Peppermint_Roo> John_R:  I think that would be specified in the xorg.conf.  Have you tried looking there?
[00:05] <John_R> what card you got, missilecommander?
[00:05] <SourceCode> hi
[00:05] <John_R> yep, i set the xorg.con with dpkg-reconfigure and also by hand, no go
[00:05] <misslecommander_> nVidia PCI-Express
[00:05] <neverblue> FluxD, i have done tunneling from a Ubuntu to a Ubuntu,
[00:05] <Tigerplug> Im installing a theme (MAC4LIN) when I install it says theme installed successfully in Appearance preferences but it doesn't show up in there or ask me would I like to apply it now
[00:05] <John_R> the only refresh rate option available in Preferences>Screen Resolution is 85hz
[00:05] <un_op> John_R, what frequencies are reported when you reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[00:05] <wers> when alt+tabbing, the icons of the apps come out. I want to make those icons larger on gnome 2.20. any ideas on how I can do it (if I can? :D)? :D
[00:05] <Tigerplug> any suggestions guys.... im stuck on this one
[00:06] <FluxD> neverblue, which one should I uncheck in that list ?
[00:06] <misslecommander_> un_op : how do i check that ?
[00:06] <un_op> misslecommander_, check what?
[00:06] <evil_tech> holy users
[00:06] <un_op> misslecommander_, refresh rates?
[00:06] <misslecommander_> un_op : maybe it was for something else
[00:06] <neverblue> FluxD, then you need to edit 'sudo nano /etc/ssh/ssh_config' and uncomment out 'X11Forwarding yes'
[00:07] <ernesto> hola
[00:07] <neverblue> FluxD, please read this post again
[00:07] <FluxD> neverblue, I dont see an option like that
[00:07] <desertc> !hi |ernesto
[00:07] <ubotu> ernesto: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[00:07] <misslecommander_> un_op : i want to change my monitor refresh rate to 85hz, but all thats there is 60hz, i am not running restricted nvidia driver, it freezes my system
[00:08] <ernesto> I dont speak english
[00:08] <desertc> !es |ernesto
[00:08] <ubotu> ernesto: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:08] <ernesto> i speak spanish
[00:08] <Scunizi> astro76, once the move has been crunched to a mpg, will k3b then take care of the burning to dvd?  also if I burn it as a straight mpg file will a dvd pick it up and play it.. I'm really dvd spec dumb.
[00:08] <x86_> How would I go about traceing a non spoof src header packet, I keep getting d0sed by these bots I want to find out who is doing it
[00:09] <FluxD> neverblue, ok I added it anything else ?
[00:09] <astro76> Scunizi: the output will be an .iso file you can burn with any program
[00:09] <evil_tech> wireshark
[00:09] <misslecommander_> x86 packet-sniffer ?
[00:09] <misslecommander_> wireshark nice
[00:09] <happy1> anyone know how to determine the /dev/____ device name for a Xen guest CDROM drive?
[00:10] <misslecommander_> is WireShark in repository ?
[00:10] <evil_tech> ye
[00:10] <evil_tech> yes
[00:10] <Scunizi> astro76, thanks.. looks like the file being created is an mpg.. maybe I chose the wrong option.
[00:10] <misslecommander_> oh thats great
[00:10] <astro76> Scunizi: maybe it's just showing intermediate progress?
[00:10] <astro76> Scunizi: I only tried it once
[00:10] <neverblue> FluxD, reconnect, and give it a try
[00:10] <Scunizi> astro76, I hope so.. it takes a while
[00:10] <n_i_c_k> (how) can I rescue a PC which cannot mount its boot partition, after booting?
[00:10] <astro76> Scunizi: it does, a couple of hours
[00:11] <Ubunoob> Question: my ubuntu pc will not start up. Message error on screen reads "*Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [OK]" Any help would be appreciated.
[00:11] <evil_tech> stupid raid array is taking forever to initialize any reason why that may be?
[00:11] <un_op> misslecommander_, well, you might not be running with the right drivers then -- have you tried this command? sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? what refresh rates does the script say X can support?
[00:11] <evil_tech> Ubunoob: have you pushed enter?
[00:11] <RootyRootRootWoo> Hi, when I download any file and the "save to" explorer [?] window opens, Gnome blanks out the file name in the "Save as" dialog box. Anyone know of a solution?
[00:11] <Ubunoob> yes, enter and crtl + c do nothing
[00:11] <un_op> happy1, usually /dev/cdrom* ?
[00:11] <Scunizi> astro76, 20% done right now if I can believe the progress bar.. p4 2.4ghs socket 478 (old) w 2gig ram.. not cooking but adequate
[00:12] <jvai> Scunizi, i was "kinda" succesfull with DeVeDe, when i wanted to convert the movie children of men in .avi format,  i converted it into an iso, then burnt... if you burn the movie in it's current .avi, .mpg format, it'll just be a data cd, not readable by a dvd player
[00:12] <Ubunoob> evil_tech, i switched from an nvidia gfx card back to my on-board graphics cuz my invida got damged, and since then i can't start unbutu
[00:12] <un_op> RootyRootRootWoo, download file from where in what application?
[00:12] <Scunizi> jvai, thanks.. when it's converting the avi, is the temp file an mpg?
[00:12] <misslecommander_> un_op : you want me to run : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xor in terminal ?
[00:13] <misslecommander_> what does it do ?
[00:13] <jvai> Scunizi, yes
[00:13] <Noemi_> let's go
[00:13] <Noemi_> http://lordserer.blogspot.com/
[00:13] <unagi_> !iso
[00:13] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[00:13] <Scunizi> jvai, thanks that's good news.
[00:13] <jvai> or u can copy the former as backup then convert the copy
[00:13] <evil_tech> Ubunoob: i'd try booting into recovery mode and removing completely the nvidia driver stuff and then reconfigure x
[00:14] <Billiard> hey, about 5 seconds after i plug in my usb mouse, it stops working and dmesg gives me "hiddev96: USB HID v1.11 Device [Logitech USB ..."
[00:14] <Ubunoob> evil_tech, is ubuntu 7.10 compatible to run with on-board graphics?
[00:14] <un_op> misslecommander_, well, dpkg-reconfigure is going to reonfigure X for you and generate a new Xorg.conf .. in the meantime, it's going to query your hardware and find out information like adapter name, monitor, refresh rates, etc -- make a backup of your Xorg,conf first tho just incase
[00:14] <PriceChild> Ubunoob, yeah
[00:14]  * ilikebuntu000 is up and running newest ubuntu with a gForce 2 MX 64MB graphics, and only ~200MB RAM, on a 500MHrz box!!!!!!!!!! and it WORKS! at a usable level. anyone that says they need faster than that is using their computer for mor than a tool (for Games, probably).
[00:14] <Dextorion> hey.. Eterm doesnt handle utf?
[00:15] <Ubunoob> evil_tech, pricechild, how do i boot into recovery mode in 7.10?
[00:15] <un_op> Ubunoob, if you changed graphics cards, you'll need to reconfigure X again to reflect the change
[00:15] <misslecommander_> un_op : so that will just do the monitor stuff, nothing else ?
[00:15] <FluxD> neverblue, I got a blank screen with lines ?
[00:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubunoob: Escape during power up to get grub menu
[00:16] <neverblue> FluxD, sorry, give me a min or two, working on my own issues here :)
[00:16] <Ubunoob> un_op, will it be easy to reconfigure x?
[00:16] <un_op> misslecommander_, well, it'll also do keyboard and mice -- it's usually safe to follow the defaults, but sometimes common sense is needed .. nothing too hard
[00:16] <FluxD> neverblue, sorry just ping me when u are free
[00:16] <neverblue> FluxD, sounds good, otr just keep trying the channel
[00:16] <un_op> Ubunoob, it's a two minute process
[00:16] <RootyRootRootWoo> un_op: any file from anywhere. It also happens when I extract .zip / other types archives. It initially highlights the filename text blue and then deletes it when navigating to the default directory
[00:17] <un_op> RootyRootRootWoo, and you can't type in anything, can you?
[00:17] <un_op> !xorg
[00:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[00:17] <Help> help!!!!!
[00:17] <tweak^_> hello...
[00:17] <TheLynx> anyone here experiencing graphical glitches with ATI-cards when using compiz?
[00:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme
[00:17] <ubotu> Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[00:17] <tweak^_> TheLynx-> nope...
[00:17] <Ubunoob> thanks ubotu
[00:17] <misslecommander_> un_op : thank you, that will come in handy
[00:18] <tweak^_> worked oiut of the box for me
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> TheLynx: Better answers in #Compiz
[00:18] <TheLynx> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:18] <RootyRootRootWoo> un_op: I can type in the filename but then it's often quite long, or I don't remember it. BTW, this happened when I upgraged to Feisty
[00:19] <pike_> TheLynx: thats like asking if anyone likes pizza
[00:19] <tweak^_> i've got a kind of trivial question: i run ubuntu server with no gui... i'd like to display logs instead of login prompts for TTY1-4
[00:19] <DjViper> lol pike
[00:19] <tweak^_> how would i go about this?
[00:19] <Help_> i deleted logical drive using windows xp home edition partition, then i rebooted my PC, i got grub error 22.  i searched online: recommendation was to use windows xp cd, but i only have system recovery cds from vaio, if i use it i lose everything on windows, and it doesn't start the command window when i press R.
[00:19] <Ubunoob> alright, i'll go try this now, thanks for all the help!!
[00:20] <Johnson> are u supposed to be able to drag and drop icons from one desktop to another one using the desktop switcher
[00:20] <Johnson> because for some reason mine doesn't do that
[00:20] <dude_> <- need help, somewhat urgend ^^
[00:20] <Help_> i'm booting with ubuntu live cd, and i would like to fix mbr, anyone can help me?
[00:20] <pike_> Help_: so all the other partitions are the same you just have some freespace that used to be the xp partition?
[00:20] <un_op> RootyRootRootWoo, I suspect ubuntu has made adaptations to the save as dialogs .. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=413457
[00:20] <Help_> no, it use to be ubuntu.  pike_
[00:21] <dude_> im trying to use my linux box as a router. it has an active internet connection and i wanna share this connection to a windows box.
[00:21] <pike_> Help_: oh so do you want to use windows mbr or grub?
[00:21] <Help_> mbr
[00:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Help_: There are windows boot discs that can help with that..  or boot livecd and restore grub
[00:22] <pike_> Help_: from a windows boot disk or cd run fdisk /mbr i think. an alternative is to make a small like 5-10MB partition and install grub to it
[00:22] <evil_tech> you could just borrow someones windows disk too
[00:22] <Help_> i can't get any, because i have to write it to a cd, and i'm using cd room, to boot this live CD of ubuntu
[00:22] <ilikebuntu000> to fix mbr just boot from your Win disk, goto recovery console . input admin pass to accesss it. then run fixboot, then run fixmbr
[00:22] <misslecommander_> un_op : found in xorg.conf -> 	Identifier	"Generic Monitor"
[00:22] <RootyRootRootWoo> un_op: Thanks for the link: am reading it now!
[00:22] <misslecommander_> i will see what i can dp
[00:23] <gmoore> hello. i just installed the latest ubuntu onto my htpc (Shuttle SG33G5 - Intel G33 chipset, onboard audio/video). everything seems to be working good so far, but i'd like to get SPDIF audio out (via Toslink) set up. i can't test it right now (receiver is in a different room) so for all i know it's working already, but i doubt it.
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Help_: #Windows can help or super grub repair cd.. lots of options
[00:23] <Help_> my wii can't get to recovery console, i have system recovery files only, they recover files installed in harddrive by manufactor
[00:23] <clarezoe> can anyone help me? I've post my question here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4156728#post4156728
[00:23] <gmoore> any suggestions on what i should be looking at to get SPDIF out set up and testing it etc? even if i dont have the receiver plugged in, if i can at least click a play button and have it think it's playing the sound w/o giving me errors then thats a good sign
[00:24] <Help_> but i can't boot windows, because of the error, how can i write cds if i can't boot windows
[00:24] <un_op> misslecommander_, that's probably why you can't use the optimal resolution -- if i were you i'd google up and see what other linux user's with the same monitor have done to their Xorg.confs
[00:24] <Black_Cat> www.meine-nackte-ex.net/?uid=102371
[00:24] <Black_Cat> www.meine-nackte-ex.net/?uid=102371
[00:24] <Black_Cat> cosa è????
[00:24] <evil_tech> external burner?
[00:24] <Tigerplug> anyone know of a PIDGIN plugin to show song being played in amarok?
[00:24] <Tigerplug> could do with it!
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Help_: You can find a friend with a pc and use theirs to make disks...
[00:25] <misslecommander_> un_op : looking at the Uboto link, i should prob be able to manage it. i do have a question though
[00:25] <evil_tech> yay 39% to go until these stupid messages stop popping up
[00:25] <misslecommander_> un_op : if i mess it up, can i repair the xorg.conf file ?
[00:25] <|Quest|>  can i install a distro on a flash drive and use it to run it on different PCs?
[00:26] <FluxD> What is the command to start KDE or gnome thru commandline ?
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> clarezoe: Please post at least a brief description of the problem in the channel.. That way someone with experience in that area can go look...
[00:26] <evil_tech> |Quest|: yes you can. pendrivelinux.com has some good how tos
[00:26] <Dextorion> Is it possible to get Eterm to use UTF-8 =
[00:26] <phoul> anyone know a good / easy to use svf file checker
[00:26] <Dextorion> ?
[00:26] <un_op> misslecommander_, make a backup of the original xorg.conf so you can always put it back if you do screw up -- sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[00:26] <FluxD> What is the command to start KDE or gnome thru commandline ?
[00:27] <un_op> FluxD, startx ?
[00:27] <Jack_Sparrow> |Quest|: Yes... pendrivelinux.com
[00:27] <FluxD> un_op, ok let me check
[00:27] <MrWGW-> on the LiveCD, how would someone enable sshd?
[00:27] <un_op> misslecommander_, if ever you need to revert -- do the opposite -- sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:27] <clarezoe> Thanks Jack_Sparrow, I use ssh but says "no route to host", and can't open all the webpages with the domain of "gu.se"
[00:28] <FluxD> un_op, I got X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.
[00:28] <un_op> MrWGW-, /etc/init.d/sshd start  if the openssh-server is installed
[00:28] <|Quest|> Jack_Sparrow evil_tech - i was talking about regular distros like ubuntu
[00:28] <|Quest|> Jack_Sparrow evil_tech - is that possible with any distro?
[00:28] <un_op> FluxD, have you got the xserver packages installed?
[00:28] <ballongen> route -p add simpson
[00:28] <julio> hey, where can i find these dependencies? libsnmp9-dev libsane
[00:28] <MrWGW-> would it be installed on the LiveCD by default?
[00:28] <neverblue> FluxD, still having problems ?
[00:28] <willscarlet^^> i get a TkCimage error when loading the new aMSN
[00:28] <MrWGW-> and can it be installed during a LiveCD session?
[00:28] <Jack_Sparrow> |Quest|: Not all.. no...
[00:28] <FluxD> neverblue, yes lol
[00:29] <ballongen> MrWGW-: apt-get install ssh
[00:29] <Jack_Sparrow> clarezoe: Just address it to the channel...  I personally know nothing about ssh
[00:29] <MrWGW-> ok
[00:29] <FluxD> neverblue, I connected fine but I am getting a blank/grey screen ?
[00:29] <pike_> FluxD: for a basic xsession i normally install xserver-xorg xfonts-base and a wm like fluxbox then echo exec fluxbox > ~/.xinitrc then run xinit   or somesuch
[00:29] <neverblue> FluxD, ok, so can I ask, why are u tunnelling, do you not have admin access, to open ports ?
[00:29] <happy1> happy
[00:29] <clarezoe> Jack_Sparrow, the address is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4156728#post4156728
[00:29] <|Quest|> Jack_Sparrow evil_tech - and will it be slower than regular install?
[00:29] <FluxD> neverblue, I am using putty to connect
[00:29] <neverblue> FluxD, I think its because X needs to run on your client, as I said before, not sure how windows will handle it
[00:29] <julio> hey neverblue, do you know where can i find these dependencies? libsnmp9-dev libsane, because when i tried to install HPLIP, it couldn't find these dependencies
[00:29] <neverblue> FluxD, oh, wait a sec
[00:30] <tweak^_> Can I display logs instead of logins at my tty terms?
[00:30] <jordan__> one of my usb mice works for a few seconds then stops and the other doesnt at all
[00:30] <tweak^_> anyone anyone?
[00:30] <neverblue> julio, im busy as it is, please ask the channel
[00:30] <|Quest|> Jack_Sparrow i can use *buntu?
[00:30] <happy1> un_op, literally '/dev/cdrom*' ?
[00:30] <julio> neverblue: ok, sorry
[00:30] <FluxD> pike_, I saw that few of the running processer were kde based does that matter ?
[00:30] <clarezoe> Jack_Sparrow, thanks, not only the problem of ssh, I mean I can't ping any address with the domain "gu.se"
[00:30] <julio>  do you know where can i find these dependencies? lib
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> |Quest|: Yes, you can install ubuntu on pen drvie.. please see the site we referenced
[00:30] <neverblue> FluxD, so you are using putty, to ssh into a remote computer, and attempting to VNC over that ?
[00:31] <FluxD> neverblue, yes
[00:31] <neverblue> FluxD, not sure if that will work, can you not just VNC in ?
[00:31] <FluxD> neverblue, that part is working now but I am getting a blacnk/grey screen
[00:31] <un_op> happy1, * there could mean nothing or a number starting at 0 .. the first CDROM drive is usually /dev/cdrom .. the second /dev/cdrom0 etc..
[00:31] <neverblue> FluxD, bypassing the ssh tunnel ?
[00:31] <pike_> FluxD: oh vnc over ssh is different. once you set it up you need to set vncpasswd and add the wm to .vnc/startup i think
[00:31] <FluxD> neverblue, yea I am connecting to ip now
[00:32] <neverblue> FluxD, so you can VNC directly to it ?
[00:32] <happy1> un_op: the CD ROM automounts on the host Linux OS as /dev/sr0
[00:32] <FluxD> neverblue, yes over SSH I am getting connection refuse
[00:32] <happy1> un_op:  it mounts it to /media/<CD Volume Name>
[00:32] <|Quest|> Jack_Sparrow ok
[00:32] <neverblue> FluxD, did you run vncclient (after sshing in) on the server (remote) and gave localhost as the address, or how are you VNCing over ssh ?
[00:33] <Goupil418> yesterday I've downloaded every programs I could find in my terminal using 2 letters... it took me 3 hours
[00:33] <happy1> un_op:  in the Linux Xen guest VM it mounts it to /dev/xvdb
[00:33] <evil_tech> |Quest|: you are going to want a fairly fast flash drive if you want good performance
[00:33] <neverblue> Goupil418, u have to much time on your hands
[00:33] <mular> out of curiosity who come when I do uptime it shows 4 users ? Does that mean 4 users connected to me?
[00:33] <Goupil418> I've found some programs dating from 1992
[00:33] <Goupil418> neverblue, I know
[00:33] <jimmygoon> Is the only way to get my virtual client on the network to create a bridge
[00:33] <CrashOblong> Hi, I'm looking for someone to lend give me some info on some real simple problems I'm having with a new install of ubuntu 7.10
[00:33] <FluxD> neverblue, I dont think VNC over ssh is working. It gave me a connection refused error. But if I connect to server ip it works fine and asks for  a pass
[00:33] <happy1> un_op: it works there too, but not in the Windows VM
[00:33] <Goupil418> neverblue, I'm a geek
[00:33] <|Quest|> !rad
[00:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:34] <neverblue> FluxD, prompts for a pass in a VNC client, running locally, thats what you mean, right ?
[00:34] <un_op> happy1, hmm -- i'm not so sure then
[00:34] <FluxD> neverblue, VNC over ssh means I connect to 127.0.0.1:5901 right?
[00:34] <Goupil418> I'm trying to decrypt matrix language rofl
[00:34] <|Quest|> evil_tech how could i know the pen drive is fast enough?
[00:35] <t35t0r> anyone using wpa_supplicant / wpa_gui see it endlessly stuck at group_handshake?
[00:35] <un_op> happy1, so you're trying to get the CDROM mounted in a guest OS (windows in this case)# withing Xen ?
[00:35] <neverblue> FluxD, when your connected to the server, yes, use the localhost address, which is what you posted
[00:35] <neverblue> FluxD, just to confirm again, you can use VNC, into that box, correct ?
[00:35] <EADG_> mular: type w to see who's logged in, most likly it's just you on a couple tty's or terminals.
[00:35] <FluxD> neverblue, what I did was connecto to server using putty then I typed in 127.0.0.1:5901 and I got connection refused
[00:35] <evil_tech> |Quest|: I believe pendrivelinux keeps a list of usb drives. i have ubuntu installed on a couple of OCZ Rally2's and it runs well. I have also installed it on a Crucial Overdrive
[00:36] <mular> ya shows me on tty2 tty7 pts/0 pts/1 (what is pts?
[00:36] <bhsx> ok i have compiz installed on 7.10, how do i set it to start automatically when GNOME or KDE start?
[00:36] <EADG_> mular: psyodo (spelling??) terminal I think.
[00:36] <neverblue> FluxD, answer my last post please :)
[00:36] <mular> TTY2 / 7 - that is when I would hit ctrl -alt 1 7 right?
[00:36] <Starnestommy> mular: same thing as a tty, except you can't switch to it using ctrl+alt+Fsomething
[00:36] <pike_> !defaultwm | bhsx
[00:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about defaultwm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:37] <bhsx> and also, does anyone else lose there title bars when using compiz in kde4?
[00:37] <mular> ah ok, cool thanks guys.. just trying to learn all I can.. having so much fun with this <most of the time > :)
[00:37] <EADG_> mular: tty7 should be where X is running.
[00:37] <bhsx> ty
[00:37] <FluxD> neverblue, I think so but I am getting a blank screen if that helps
[00:37] <mular> ah ok, so ya I logged into tty2 because I was using VNC full screen an dI couldn't figure out how to shut it off :) so I did killall
[00:38] <solexious> Hello all, how can I find out what can be installed with apt-get install, is there an online list i ca look at? looking for vnc server spesificaly
[00:38] <neverblue> FluxD, ok, so I have to run, but I think your almost there
[00:38] <FluxD> neverblue, oh ok
[00:38] <neverblue> FluxD, check your VNC client manual, I think something like this should be covered
[00:38] <jvai> i have an issue, i copied a dvd to an iso image & it wieghs in @ 7.6gb, ok, i try to transfer it to a 60gb "store it" drive, but it copies only 4gb of the movie.. what could be creating this limit? & there's room euff on the external drive
[00:38] <evil_tech> solexious: just use synaptics search function
[00:38] <EADG_> mular: hehe, that works. Use "exit" next time, that will log you out of the tty.
[00:38] <evil_tech> jvai:is the drive FAT32?
[00:38] <FluxD> neverblue, I dont think this is a client error but how do I start a KDE session ?
[00:38] <Steve2922> is there a data structure similar to java's arraylist in python?
[00:39] <mular> solexious, just go to system > admin > synaptic package manager .. also you could do applications > add/remove and just search for what you want
[00:39] <solexious> evil_tech: how do i do that?
[00:39] <jvai> i dont know @ solexious
[00:39] <willscarlet^^> what is the command for terminal please ??
[00:39] <soldats> Steve2922, python has arrays
[00:39] <Goupil418> t35t0: what is wpa_gui for
[00:39] <pike_> jvai: classic fat32 problem
[00:39] <evil_tech> solexious: open synaptic and there is a search button at thetop
[00:39] <solexious> Sorry, forgot to add im using server version
[00:39] <soldats> willscarlet^^, gnome-terminal
[00:39] <neto> steve2922: you should go to a python channel for that, but u can use lists
  thankyou
[00:39] <mular> EADG, ah ok, ya when I did vnc in full screen it wouldn't let me alt tab it away or do anything.. it kept bringing back the full window.. is there a way to force something to mimize like alt-enter or something?
[00:39] <evil_tech> solexious: oh
[00:40] <astro76> solexious: 'aptitude search', 'apt-cache search'
[00:40] <jvai> solexious, u kno what.. it acted funky when i connected this drive to an xp box... :(
[00:40] <tweak^_> \
[00:40] <soldats> willscarlet^^, err neato was right array in python is a list but works the same
[00:40] <jvai> now alot of permissions arent mine @ solexious
[00:40] <CrashOblong> I'm having a problem getting connected with ubuntu, I'm looking for some help.
[00:40] <rhs> solexious: do "apt cache search <name>"
[00:40] <FluxD> So can anyone else help me with a VNC problem?
[00:40] <|Quest|> evil_tech ic
[00:40] <pike_> jvai: you can use split like split -b 200k file.iso then move the split files over
[00:40] <solexious> what you on about jvai?
[00:40] <Gekkomon_Shogun> What up
  im trying to right click desktop to open in terminal
[00:40] <patogen> What browser besides firefox is?
[00:40] <pike_> jvai: dont use 200k of course
[00:40] <edp2008> hi, does anyone know how to get an echo mia soundcard working with alsa? I've installed the drivers but alsa doesn't see it. details for my system are on http://pastebin.ca/859188
[00:40] <jvai> oooo
[00:41] <Goupil418> what is wap_gui program used for
[00:41] <LjL> !browsers > patogen    (patogen, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:41] <evil_tech> i'm going to be pissed if this array doesnt work after watching these stupid initialization progress things popping up
[00:41] <EADG_> mular: not that I'm aware of, but I'm not very familiar with Gnome. You could probly make a key short-cut for that though.
[00:41] <solexious> astro, thank you
[00:41] <mular> EADG,  you use KDE?
[00:41] <bod_> does anyone no where i can find some good noob programming tutorials?
[00:41] <julio> what command do i have to use to Scan something with my mutifunction?
[00:41] <jvai> solexious,  i'm on dapper, with coffemate.. lol
[00:41] <soldats> willscarlet^^, as in a file
[00:41] <ari_stress> morning all :D
[00:41] <FluxD> So can anyone else help me with a VNC problem?
[00:41] <Goupil418> bod: C++?
[00:41] <patogen> LjL: Thank you
[00:41] <EADG_> mular: System --> Prefrances --> Key Board Short cuts.
[00:42] <jvai> solexious, "split is a command line utility?
[00:42] <bod_> Goupil418: yer
[00:42] <soldats> bod_, try out python for begginers
[00:42] <EADG_> mular: I just reloaded all my computers with Gutsy from Kubuntu Dapper.
[00:42] <Goupil418> bod: you can learn basic programming on http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld/
[00:42] <bod_> soldats: google search yer?
[00:42] <mular> EADG, thanks :) I been thinking about trying KDE soon on my laptop - is that a huge difference over using gnome?
[00:42] <ari_stress> FluxD: what's the problem?
[00:42] <willscarlet^^> soldats , i meant .... opening from the filesystem browser, and telling it to open a certain folder in terminal
[00:42] <solexious> Javi, not sure why your talking to me mate :)
[00:43] <Gekkomon_Shogun> i was thinking about adding more space for linux and was what i could use to back up my information
[00:43] <FluxD> ari_stress, I connected to the remote machine running the server fine but I am getting a blank/grey/striped screen
[00:43] <Goupil418> bod: here is a C++ website for anyone http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/introduction.html
[00:43] <EADG_> mular: not much diffrent, Gnome has a diffrent "feel" though.
[00:43] <bod_> soldats: cheers
[00:43] <jvai> ?? @ solexious scroll up... u just gave me info in splittin an iso image.. ??
[00:43] <mular> EADG, ah ok thanks for all your help :)
[00:43] <ari_stress> FluxD: how do you connect to it?
[00:43] <EADG_> n/p
[00:43] <FluxD> ari_stress, thru tightvnc viewer
[00:44] <solexious> nope
[00:44] <soldats> willscarlet^^, is there an option in preference of the file to open in terminal. if so the command is gnome-terminal
[00:44] <solexious> i asked the channel a question
[00:44] <mular> bod_,  check out http://hetland.org/writing/instant-hacking.html  to it covers some basic info with python - thats the language I am starting with
[00:44] <Darkmystere> Well can some 1 help me i cant get my Basic IRC bot to connect to my channel .... It gives me NOTICE AUTH :**** No identd (auth) Response
[00:44] <soldats> bod_, what is yer
[00:44] <jvai> oooops.. that was pike
[00:44] <Darkmystere> Btw its writtin in Perl
[00:44] <jvai> my bad @ solexious
[00:44] <Darkmystere> i mean python
[00:44] <bod_> soldats: yer = yes/yeah
[00:44] <solexious> hehe, np mate
[00:44] <jvai> thanks pike
[00:44] <soldats> bod_, figured just checking
[00:44] <edp2008> anyone know about alsa? is this the right place?
[00:44] <willscarlet^^> soldats ,many thanks
[00:45] <bod_> soldats: lol,.,.kk cheers
[00:45] <bod_> mular: cheers dude
[00:45] <ballongen> TheLynx: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8476
[00:45] <jvai> pike_, is "split" a command line utility?
[00:45] <soldats> willscarlet^^, np i havent used gnome in a while but i believe its possible the way i stated :P good luck
[00:45] <evil_tech> jvai: yes
[00:45] <maverik> quit
[00:45] <jvai> ooo ok. man split.. lol
[00:45] <pike_> jvai: yeah
[00:46] <Darkmystere> Ive even tried it on diffrent channels no luck
[00:46] <pike_> jvai: its not too bad though
[00:46] <iuri> join #git
[00:46] <TheLynx> ballongen: guess you found your solution?
[00:46] <soldats> bod_, if your interested in programming for begginers look into "how to think like a computer scientist" or travel on to #python and ask :)
[00:46] <ToMaK> can ubuntu run an EXE prog???????
[00:46] <Kuwanger> How do I tell what program is blanking the screen in X?
[00:46] <Starnestommy> ToMaK: using wine
[00:46] <pike_> !wine | ToMaK
[00:46] <ubotu> ToMaK: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[00:46] <evil_tech> ToMaK:with wine
[00:46] <kitche> ToMaK: well with wine it can but some exe might not work
[00:46] <FluxD> ari_stress, u there?
[00:47] <ballongen> TheLynx: yeah, ATI as usual
[00:47] <bod_> soldats: cheers for the info dude,.,. i appreciate it
[00:47] <ndee> what's a good dock to use for gnome?
[00:47] <pike_> ToMaK: viruses are notoriously hard to get to run
[00:47] <jvai> got it @ pike_ thank alot man
[00:47] <ToMaK> all my rispond:thx......
[00:47] <soldats> np
[00:47] <ari_stress> FluxD: yes. sorry i was staring at another window
[00:47] <ToMaK> oo
[00:47] <FluxD> ari_stress, thru tightvnc viewer :)
[00:47] <ToMaK> thin i'm going to use ubuntu
[00:47] <ari_stress> FluxD: how do you set the vncserver pc?
[00:47] <Goupil418> I love Ubuntu
[00:47] <evil_tech> ToMaK: congrats on an excellent choice of OS
[00:48] <pike_> ToMaK: for most common windows apps there is a linux equivanent so usually the transition isnt too bad
[00:48] <TheLynx> ballongen: not my fault this time regarding the hardware choice. free laptop from work. trying to do the best of it. discarded vista even before I tried it ;-)
[00:48] <ToMaK> thx
[00:48] <ballongen> TheLynx: something with drawing the pixmaps
[00:48] <FluxD> ari_stress, thru the wiki toutorial while connected thru putty
[00:48] <Kuwanger> Also, how do I tell what program is capturing shortcuts and responding to them?
[00:48] <Goupil418> my computer actually looks like it's a matrix's computer
[00:48] <ToMaK> yeah it's true
[00:48] <Darkmystere> !info identd | Darkmystere
[00:48] <TheLynx> ballongen: ah. interesten
[00:48] <rhs> jvai: there's also lxsplit : http://www.freebyte.com/hjsplit/#linux
[00:48] <solexious> Any one know a vnc server I can use for ubuntu 7.10 server
[00:48] <ari_stress> FluxD: basically there are 2 ways to set vncserver:
[00:48] <TheLynx> ballongen: at least we're getting closer
[00:48] <ToMaK> i already tried to use the compiz once bt i'm still a noob
[00:48] <ballongen> TheLynx: yup, "they" are working on it
[00:48] <ToMaK> i mess p the CUBE
[00:49] <TheLynx> ballongen: might take a while then
[00:49] <ari_stress> FluxD: 1. by using vino-preferences (gnome), and 2. by through X itself
[00:49] <jvai> aaaw, it's bookmark'd! thnx rhs
[00:49] <ballongen> i would like that amds orders to ati to release opensource drivers have some effects soon
[00:49] <Darkmystere> Can anyone help?
[00:49] <ballongen> TheLynx: yeah, too bad im getting my ati gfx cards for free :8
[00:49] <ballongen> i would prefere nvidia in this choise
[00:50] <ari_stress> FluxD: can you nmap to the vncserver server to see if port tcp 5900 is open?
[00:50] <linux__> anybody know anything about post fix?
[00:50] <ari_stress> linux__: what about postfix?
[00:50] <ballongen> linux__: how imaginating nickname
[00:50] <linux__> how do you add mail boxes or users?
[00:50] <ballongen> users by adduser
[00:50] <FluxD> ari_stress, I am sitting on windows now and I connect to the server using putty. Can I still use nmap ?
[00:50] <Darkmystere> !info  bidentd, gidentd, midentd, nullidentd, oidentd | Darkmystere
[00:51] <linux__> do that in CLI or terminal?
[00:51] <ballongen> linux__: try a postfix channel
[00:51] <linux__> ok
[00:51] <linux__> thanks
[00:51] <ari_stress> FluxD: i'm afraid not
[00:51] <ari_stress> FluxD: what is the url of the wiki?
[00:51] <kitche> Darkmystere: msg the bot if your lookign for something for yourself makes the channel much more cleaner
[00:51] <solexious> Any one know a vnc server I can use for ubuntu 7.10 server *ie is command line and does not require gui capture*
[00:51] <uniqueminds> does anyone know how to put my tv as secondary screen ?
[00:51] <FluxD> ari_stress, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH
[00:52] <Darkmystere> kitche:............Thanks for the tip...
[00:52] <ToMaK> any one want to see my art???
[00:52] <misslecommander> who was the one that had suggested the url to change refresh rate for my monitor ?
[00:53] <ari_stress> FluxD: watch the vncserver pc, there might be a windows asking for permission when you connect to it :D
[00:53] <Owleto> Do you know if someone in ubuntu intend to release a fglrx package for cards pre-radeon 9500?
[00:53] <FluxD> ari_stress, well it asks me for a pass and and I enter pass but after that the screen is blank/grey etc
[00:54] <kitche> Owleto: well fglrx doesn't support anything below 9500 now so how can ubuntu do it?
[00:54] <DerangedDelusion> I'm trying to install wine - I've already APT-GET'd the package, but it did not create a ~/.wine directory - does it function differently now?
[00:54] <misslecommander> up_op ? it worked the modification for the refresh is now set to 85hz
[00:54] <Cromag> draconius: you need to winecfg
[00:54] <astro76> DerangedDelusion: run winecfg
[00:54] <rhs> DerangedDelusion: it should create a .wine directory on first use of wine
[00:54] <kitche> Owleto: that driver would not even be able to work with the 2.6 kernel anyways
[00:54] <Cromag> try look in the menus, there will be a winecfg
[00:54] <ToMaK> !wine
[00:55] <marshall> is there a way to use openbox window decoration themes in gnome?
[00:55] <evil_tech> you can also run winecfg from the command line
[00:55] <ari_stress> FluxD: i mean, is there any window pop up in the vncserver pc, that says someone is trying to connect, and that whether you would allow it
[00:55] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[00:56] <mneptok> marshall: use OpenBox as your WM
[00:56] <FluxD> ari_stress, I have no gui on the server
[00:56] <DerangedDelusion> Do I need to sudo winecfg? Cause it's spitting ALOT of errors
[00:56] <Owleto> kitche: huh, a bit confused because Ati have fglrx for 9200 pro on their web pages... maybe I'm wrong
[00:56] <ari_stress> oh
[00:56] <marshall> mneptok: how would that change my life though?
[00:56] <kitche> Owleto: yeah did you notice the date on that driver though
[00:56] <astro76> DerangedDelusion: no no sudo
[00:56] <ari_stress> FluxD: i think i cannot help more
[00:56] <mneptok> marshall: a change from Metacity to OB? dunno. you tell me.
[00:57] <FluxD> ari_stress, thx
[00:57] <marshall> mneptok: but i dont know either
[00:57] <ari_stress> FluxD: if there is no GUI, then there will be no vnc view :D
[00:57] <marshall> mneptok: im scared man.
[00:57] <Owleto> kitche: didn't downloaded... I suppose it must be an old version
[00:57] <ari_stress> FluxD: vnc is for GUI desktop
[00:57] <FluxD> ari_stress, how do I install a GUI then :)
[00:57] <astro76> DerangedDelusion: gui programs are often very verbose when launched from the terminal but it's often ok ;)
[00:57] <mneptok> marshall: Metacity is the GNOME WM. use OB in its place. then you can use OB themes with GNOME.
[00:57] <ari_stress> FluxD: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:58] <FluxD> ari_stress, let me try that and see how that works out
[00:58] <ari_stress> FluxD: ok
[00:58]  * mneptok wonders why people bother with VNC when X forwarding works so well
[00:58] <marshall> mneptok: ok, wish me luck bro
[00:58] <FluxD> mneptok, link?
[00:59] <kitche> mneptok: prbably because most people either want a full desktop or they don't feel like setting up X forwarding myself I m the full desktop person but I use freenx for that when it works that is
[00:59] <linux__> ok, im back
[00:59] <linux__> is there a GUI for post fix?
[00:59] <ridge-meister> what channel can i join to discuss circuits?
[00:59] <astro76> ridge-meister: #electronics
[01:00] <mneptok> FluxD: http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/XoverSSH/X-over-SSH2.html
[01:00] <ridge-meister> thank you astro76 :)
[01:00] <davidwong> anyone know how to make /tmp exec,? without rebooting??
[01:00] <Owleto> kitche: The drivers that ati offers for Radeon 9200pro are old, and probably even slower that the open version, so installing them will not help my poor PIII. That is the point?
[01:00] <mneptok> davidwong: sudo chmod -R -x+X /tmp
[01:00] <kitche> Owleto: well they might not even install on a 2.6 kernel is my point
[01:01] <linux__> how do you stop a program thats inetrfering with Apache?
[01:01] <Owleto> kitche: thanks
[01:01] <uniqueminds> how to install .run files ?
[01:01] <gmoore> i just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu. updates ran and installed compiz fusion etc. rebooted. how do i now turn it on and check out the prettiness?
[01:01] <kitche> uniqueminds: chmod +x <file>.run ./ <file.run or sh <file>.run
[01:02] <evil_tech> gmoore:system->preferences->appearance
[01:02] <evil_tech> i think
[01:02] <filthpig> gmoore, I bet it's already running
[01:02] <davidwong> mneptok: how do i make it noexec after i finish?
[01:02] <evil_tech> im on my server so no gui
[01:02] <FluxD> mneptok,ty
[01:02] <filthpig> but not with fancy-pants animations and stuff
[01:02] <gmoore> in appearances i went to visual effects and set it to 'extra'
[01:02] <marshall> mneptok: is there a way i can continue using compiz with openbox window decorations?
[01:03] <mneptok> marshall: no idea. i don;t use compositing.
[01:03] <linux__> Is there a GUI used in Ubuntu for postfix?
[01:03] <marshall> mneptok: why not?
[01:03] <mneptok> davidwong: /tmp is a directory. it should always have the execute bit
[01:03] <Zermelo> what would be the simplest way to copy over everything in a previous installation of Ubuntu to a new install?  I don't suppose I could just do a new install, then copy over all the old folders?
[01:03] <stbcomp> Is anybody able to see my messages?
[01:03] <mneptok> marshall: i prefer reliability over pretty
[01:03] <filthpig> gmoore, then you should have something fancy to look at ;) You can also customize the effects, but you need to install a package for it. I don't remember what it was, though
[01:04] <filthpig> Zermelo, that should work out nicely
[01:04] <Humanzy> Hey guys, Feisty has seriously destroyed my whole system, I had flash worked, it now crashs all the time, and doesn't play audio at all.  Azereus doesn't work anymore, and whenever I try moving files around in the graphical display for too long the whole thing fails and I can't view the contents of any folders or open any file because linux can no longer recognize the file type
[01:04] <marshall> mneptok: im sorry
[01:04] <gmoore> filthpig: where though? running firefox etc i dont see any magic happening. i want to see spinning cubes and shit on fire and chrome spheres on checkerboards
[01:04] <Zermelo> filthpig: really, so there is no registry settings or anything i have to worry about ??
[01:05] <gmoore> oh shi i moved the window and it's all wavy
[01:05] <gmoore> cool
[01:05] <Humanzy> i'm seriously considering just installing xp again
[01:05] <linux__> Is there a GUI used in Ubuntu for postfix?
[01:05] <kitche> !language | gmoore
[01:05] <ubotu> gmoore: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:05] <linux__> anybody use webmin?
[01:05] <kitche> gmore: you probably want to install ccsm
[01:05] <LjL> !webmin > linux__    (linux__, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:05] <FluxD> mneptok,so it gives u a gui if u install kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop ?
[01:05] <rhs> Zermelo-Fraenkel: the basis of mathematics
[01:05] <mneptok> Zermelo: you'll need to copy everything from your home. includionh hidden files. rsync is your friend.
[01:05] <misslecommander> omg, this is insane. i spend more time fixing linux than using it
[01:05] <neto> Humanzy:  try making a fresh install of 7.10
[01:05] <misslecommander> now new problem per usual
[01:06] <linux__> cool in that, ebox then?
[01:06] <neto> Humanzy:  dont use azureus
[01:06] <misslecommander> i double click on Network icon on desktop, now it doesnt bring anythign up
[01:06] <LjL> linux__: i think so
[01:06] <Zermelo> rhs: indeed, set theory is one of the proposed foundations of mathematics
[01:06] <misslecommander> this is for the birds
[01:06] <mneptok> FluxD: any X-based GUI on any Unix-like machine can, in theory, be displayed on any other Unix machine. or X-capable Windows or Mac.
[01:06] <iCEifer> can anyone view this under ubuntu: http://apex.eng.usf.edu/sample/sample.asx  ?
[01:06] <|ns|nR8> im the opposite misslecommander. im bored cause everything always works
[01:07] <stbcomp> Does anybody else have problems with samba shares when using "Save As" in applications?
[01:07] <linux__> how do you uninstall webmin?
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !webmin
[01:07] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[01:08] <uniqueminds> how can i be superuser ?
[01:08] <astro76> !sudo | uniqueminds
[01:08] <ubotu> uniqueminds: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[01:08] <Kuwanger> How do I configure power management?
[01:08] <Humanzy> ok i've got a question, does anyone know which mirror for downloading a ubuntu product is closest to washington
[01:08] <uniqueminds> thnx
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[01:08] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[01:09] <astro76> uniqueminds: yes remember gksudo too
[01:09] <uniqueminds> thnx allot guys
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:09] <uniqueminds> im allready 2 days busy to get ubuntu working
[01:09] <stbcomp> Can somebody confirm my messages are getting through please
[01:09] <uniqueminds> i only can boot with recovery mode
[01:09] <astro76> yes stbcomp
[01:09] <stbcomp> thanks
[01:10] <ogre> stbcomp:  you mean on irc?
[01:10] <stbcomp> yep
[01:10] <astro76> stbcomp: you'll do better asking your question rather than asking if anyone had the problem
[01:10] <ogre> oh, well i c them
[01:10] <stbcomp> okay thanks
[01:10] <FluxD> so does server install have TWM as its window manager ?
[01:10] <astro76> FluxD: no X anything
[01:10] <stbcomp> I try to Save As in some applications, but my samba shares don't show as an option
[01:11] <astro76> stbcomp: mounted through gnome? (places menu)
[01:11] <stbcomp> yep
[01:11] <evil_tech> server install has no GUI
[01:11] <FluxD> astro76, so what in ubuntu has twm as default wm ?
[01:11] <stbcomp> some apps work some, like firefox don't
[01:11] <astro76> stbcomp: yeah not all programs work with GnomeVFS, you'll want to mount it for real
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> uniqueminds: Can we assume you have used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:11] <Starnestommy> FluxD: if you're using gnome, metacity's the default
[01:11] <erat123> when i went to a java page on firefox, a window popped up letting me install a plugin for java.  i picked the first one.  now i cant view java applets.  any idea how to get back to that install window?
[01:11] <uniqueminds> nope you cant
[01:12] <evil_tech> ;( i should have known this array wouldnt work
[01:12] <ballongen> damn, metacity is FAST in comparision to compiz :)
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !java
[01:12] <stbcomp> okay, I"m a noob here, any how=to's on that?
[01:12] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[01:12] <soldats> erat123, reload the page
[01:12] <astro76> FluxD: no desktops I'm aware of use it as a window manager
[01:12] <misslecommander> anything work roght on this OS, its so unstable. i do nothing, and my NetworkManager just stops working although i have internet connection, its really getting stupid by now
[01:12]  * mary-kate is just here, observing
[01:12] <erat123> soldats: i did, it keeps using the installed program now
[01:12] <mary-kate> this way i can learn more on ubuntu
[01:12] <marshall> dies anybody know how i can use openbox as the window manager and compiz at the same time?
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> uniqueminds: Boot recovery mode...  run that command.. select vesa mode and 1024 max res.. to get basic gui access.. then we can work on your video card monitor setup
[01:13] <topbloke> what are the system requirements for server edition 7.10?
[01:13] <soldats> erat123, scroll up and look what Jack_Sparrow posted with ubotu
[01:13] <astro76> FluxD: why do you ask?
[01:13] <gmoore> in compizconfig what key is "Super"?
[01:13] <mary-kate> ubotu? lol
[01:13] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[01:13] <astro76> gmoore: windows key
[01:13] <gmoore> astro76: ah.
[01:13] <misslecommander> how do i Fix or Reinstall Network Manager so the dumb things works right again ? do nothing and it just fails
[01:13] <FluxD> astro76, apparently my server company installed that on my server =/
[01:13] <astro76> FluxD: ah, yeah it would be a good light wm to use for vnc I guess
[01:14] <marshall> :o?
[01:14] <misslecommander> it works right for hours on end, now just decides it dont want to work anymore
[01:14] <astro76> FluxD: it is often used for that
[01:14] <misslecommander> this OS sucks
[01:14] <mary-kate> ubuntu sucks you mean?
[01:14] <mary-kate> no it doesn't
[01:14] <mary-kate> i likey
[01:14] <FluxD> astro76, I couldnt get it working under vnc and so I had to download ubuntu-desktop worth 2 gbs :/
[01:14] <misslecommander> its retarded, nothign works for more than so long, then it dcides it will never work again, ia ma fed up with this
[01:15] <stbcomp> Hey I've only used it for about 5 months and it works brilliantly in most ways
[01:15] <uniqueminds> thnx jack_sparrow
[01:15] <luchador> any ideas why i cant get my usb adapter to work on 7.10
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> misslecommander: Please behave..
[01:15] <luchador> but it worked on 6.06
[01:15] <mary-kate> i likey ubuntu
[01:15] <FluxD> misslecommander, its always iser error usually
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> uniqueminds: cool..
[01:15] <luchador> my linksys wusgb54g usb adapter
[01:15] <mary-kate> i keep it working
[01:15] <misslecommander> Network Manager, the one by default starts in Ubuntu, decides it will no longer work
[01:15] <cishpix> What should I do if I want to download a website to my HD? what's command should I use??
[01:15] <stbcomp> That's the first thing I realized missilecommander
[01:15] <mary-kate> i did a user error the other day
[01:15] <topbloke> what are the system requirements of Ubuntu Server Edition
[01:15] <uniqueminds> im gonna try it right now brb
[01:15] <topbloke> ?
[01:15] <misslecommander> my connection works as you can see, but it says i dont have a connection, and the Netwrok Settings take 10 minutes before i can view them
[01:16] <mary-kate> i deleted ALL packages needed
[01:16] <mary-kate> LOL
[01:16] <mary-kate> now, that there, is a BIG booboo lol
[01:16] <misslecommander> you people must be crazy to think this is stable at the least
[01:16] <mneptok> misslecommander: what NIC chipset? did you ever edit you interfaces file by hand?
[01:16] <kitche> misslecommander: well network manager isn't the most stable program
[01:16] <mary-kate> it is if you know how to outsmart it
[01:16] <misslecommander> if i remove and re-install Network Manager will the internet still work ?
[01:16] <mneptok> misslecommander: and please stop the random insulting comments
[01:16] <rhs> cishpix: there must be some web crawler
[01:16] <misslecommander> i know how to use ifup/down
[01:16] <stbcomp> Call me crazy, but this is WAY more stable than windoze
[01:17] <rhs> cishpix: harvestman
[01:17] <un_op> misslecommander, sure -- it's an entirely optional package
[01:17] <goodhabit> Hello. Where I can find how to make my own *.deb files?
[01:17] <misslecommander> will ifup/down still work even without Network Manager ?
[01:17] <albatross> alllo
[01:17] <cishpix> rhs: u meant that the program name is harvestman or web crawler?
[01:17] <un_op> misslecommander, yes
[01:17] <FluxD> whats the command to restart x thru command line ?
[01:17] <misslecommander> un_op : thank you
[01:17] <rhs> cishpix: it's harversman
[01:17] <astro76> !packaging | goodhabit
[01:17] <ubotu> goodhabit: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[01:17] <un_op> FluxD, /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[01:17] <un_op> FluxD, sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[01:17] <cishpix> rhs: OK, thanks very much. I'll google it
[01:18] <FluxD> ok
[01:18] <misslecommander> i would rather have it so it works, but i am sick of repairing things that seem to die for no reason ohter than bad probgramming
[01:18] <FluxD> thx un_op
[01:18]  * filthpig yawns
[01:18] <astro76> misslecommander: I am sick of you complaining in here for days instead of asking questions
[01:18] <ogre> FluxD:  why not just ctrl-alt-backspace?
[01:18] <billenium> did someone highlight me by any chance??
[01:18] <FluxD> ogre, no gui
[01:18] <mneptok> misslecommander: they work perfectly well for thousands of people. now please stop with the random "this sucks!" comments.
[01:18] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: You may want to log off and take a break.
[01:18] <misslecommander> astro : i did ask question if you didnt see
[01:18] <billenium> i mean say my name or need me*
[01:18] <mary-kate> aw, complaining isn't allowed
[01:18] <albatross> what was the question?
[01:18] <un_op> goodhabit, google debian.org for "debian packages"
[01:18] <mary-kate> i was going to complain too
[01:18] <mary-kate> lol
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> misslecommander: What you are experiencing is not normal and we would like to help. What all has been added from outside our official repos,  What scripts if any have been used to install things.
[01:19] <goodhabit> !backports
[01:19] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[01:19] <misslecommander> why do i have internet connectivity, yet, Network Manager reports i dont ? and how do i reinstall it so it works again ? apt-get ? add/remove ?
[01:19] <robthenoob> hello everyone!
[01:19] <misslecommander> i did nothing to the network for it to just die out of nowhere
[01:19] <mneptok> misslecommander: what NIC chipset? did you ever edit you interfaces file by hand?
[01:20] <filthpig> !hi | robthenoob
[01:20] <ubotu> robthenoob: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:20] <slliness> hey where should I install picasa on an amd64 machine and the installer is trying to install it to ~/picasa
[01:20] <mary-kate> when a person updates ubuntu, does that make the os even more stable?
[01:20]  * mneptok asked that about 15m ago
[01:20] <gcleric> /usr/shared/bin
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> misslecommander: Not just the network...  What you are experiencing is not normal and we would like to help. What ALL has been added from outside our official repos,  What scripts if any have been used to install things.
[01:20] <willscarlet^^> aMSN was a pain to get to the new version ... but i manages ... flithpig - cheers
[01:20] <ogre> mary-kate:  mostly yes
[01:20] <slliness> which I do not want, and synaptic has no entry for it
[01:20] <anderswc> hello, I have a dual boot pc, where can I change what OS boots by default?
[01:20] <willscarlet^^> flithpig , amsn cheers
[01:20] <mary-kate> so if i don't update, i'm asking for trouble?
[01:21] <anderswc> I looked in boot but couldn't find an appropriate file
[01:21] <robthenoob> is this channel moderated by ubuntu corp? like, it is an official channel or just community of knowledgable linux users?
[01:21] <astro76> mary-kate: are you talking about the security updates?
[01:21] <willscarlet^^> filthpig .... ill spell it right eventually :)  thanks for the hlp
[01:21] <mary-kate> yes
[01:21] <mary-kate> any of it
[01:21] <mneptok> anderswc: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> anderswc: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:21] <rhs> anderswc: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:21] <misslecommander> mneptok : yes i did edit interfaces file, i backed it up, and restored the backup.
[01:21] <misslecommander> but i had restarted since then, all was working beautiful, till last restart, then it decise it will no longer work
[01:21] <mneptok> misslecommander: that's why you have problems
[01:21] <ogre> mary-kate:  yes, you are leaving your system vulnerable to potential attacks and buggy apps
[01:21] <astro76> mary-kate: the updates you get notified of now and then are security or critical bug fixes, definitely important to do
[01:21] <FluxD> What was the command to change window manager thru terminal.  I have no GUI.
[01:22] <mary-kate> ok
[01:22] <mary-kate> i do those when i'm notified
[01:22] <mneptok> misslecommander: NM will immmediately stop doing anything once it detects a user has made manual modifications to the ir interfaces file. so Don't Do That.
[01:22] <ogre> mary-kate:  ALWAYS update yr machine
[01:22] <misslecommander> jack_sparrow : i did no scripts, i merely changed my monitor refresh rate, and restarted, then i come back an Knetw Man and Network Man both died
[01:22] <filthpig> willscarlet^^, you can use your tab-key for nick autocompletion on most irc clients ;) Anyway, glad you liked amsn, it' s been my client of choice for a good while, although I'm currently using Pidgin
[01:22] <creeed> hello, I should export Proxy-configurations to connect from a proxy at work, I wrote some lines too in /etc/profile to do this. Now I removed the lines from /etc/profile but apt-get still use the proxy-configuration!! I want now just to desactive the proxy-configuration and go back to direct internet connection. can someone help please?
[01:22] <rhs> FluxD: create a .xsession file in your directory and put whatever windowmanager you want in it
[01:23] <jackdaw> yo yo
[01:23] <mneptok> robthenoob: some people here are Canonical employees, yes.
[01:23] <willscarlet^^> filthpig, gaim was ok while i didnt need a cam .... amsn is more configurable too
[01:23] <Geeky123> can some one help me?
[01:23] <willscarlet^^> whats pidgin .... any good ?
[01:23] <misslecommander> menptok : ok, i can understand that, but why it didnt it stop failing after the first mod, and 2 restarts later it decides to die ?
[01:23] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: I'm confused, you tried changing your refresh rate in your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[01:23] <jackdaw> pidgin is gaim renamed
[01:23] <misslecommander> menptok : i will remove both Knet and Net Man, then i take it resinstall
[01:24] <misslecommander> will ifup/down still work though ?
[01:24] <MCSbreaker> I'm probably all backwards on it now.
[01:24] <slliness> hey where should I install picasa on an amd64 machine and the installer is trying to install it to ~/picasa
[01:24] <adub> can someone help me with my perl
[01:24] <filthpig> willscarlet^^, indeed. I'd like to see the goodness from amsn (easy adding smilies, webcam support etc) added to the stability and smoothness of pidgin, though
[01:25] <misslecommander> MSCbreak : no, i did that hours ago, mod the interfaces file, i restarted since then, then i just changed my monitor refresh, and restarted once again, i come back and both died
[01:25] <adub> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51957/    <--- perl problem been working on it for days please help
[01:25] <knighta> hello, I just installed ubuntu and I've got this atheros card that wont even show up in network manager: 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5418 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[01:25] <cosmodad> adub: #perl?
[01:25] <astro76> slliness: that might be a good choice then... if you wanted everyone to access it perhaps /opt
[01:25] <knighta> can anybody suggest a soliutin please?
[01:25] <misslecommander> i did nothing to netowrk for it to die like that, i restarted plenty of times since then with no problems, i change my refresh rate for monitor, and all goes loose
[01:26] <astro76> knighta: did you enable it in Restricted Drivers Manager?
[01:26] <jay-oh-en-2-3-4> can somebody help me get my flash working i installed gnash but that doesnt work
[01:26] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: Ahh, gotcha.  Yes, ifup/down work independent of the network manager.  By that I mean you can configure a network in linux without any gui tools.
[01:26] <misslecommander> anyhow what spt_get i need to re-install Network Manager? thats prob all i need to know
[01:26] <kitche> !flash > jay-oh-en-2-3-4
[01:26] <adub> cosmodad i get the same error as above the first section of my past
[01:26] <adub> paste
[01:26] <slliness> astro76, there will be only one user on the machine but I did that b4 and they deleted the executable for gearth
[01:27] <knighta> astro76: I believe so: ii  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-3-generic 2.6.24.4-3.10
[01:27] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker, yes, i know how to use it, but i like to use the gui if possible
[01:27] <astro76> slliness: what do you mean "they deleted the exectuable"?
[01:27] <adub> /usr/bin/perl: line 15: use: command not found    <--- cosmodad the error portion of that pastebin begins with that when i type #perl
[01:27] <adub> i think somewhat i wrote over my perl install or something like i wrote over my /usr/bin/perl file
[01:27] <adub> i dont know how
[01:27] <cosmodad> adub: you have to start your perl script by something like #!/usr/bin/perl, or use perl <scriptname> to call it.
[01:28] <neto> adub: search for a perl programming channel
[01:28] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: Agreed, but just know that they are separate and to to answer your question, ifconfig will work without it.
[01:28] <adub> neto been in there
[01:28] <slliness> astro76, automatix installed the binary executable for google earth and the install folder in ~/ and they deleted it while house cleaning
[01:28] <slliness> ~
[01:28] <cosmodad> adub: and I was pointing out that #perl is the place to ask these questions.
[01:28] <adub> one guy just said i had something screwy going on
[01:28] <astro76> !automatix | slliness
[01:28] <ubotu> slliness: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[01:28] <coskun_diko> heya  how is command for updates ssh?
[01:28] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker ok, i will post pastbin, i keep logs of what i change and do
[01:28] <astro76> slliness: I am not at all surprised that automatix does rediculous things, but gearth and picassa are easy enough to install themselves
[01:28] <erawfish> apt-get install openssh-server
[01:29] <creeed> hello, I should export Proxy-configurations to connect from a proxy at work, I wrote some lines too in /etc/profile to do this. Now I removed the lines from /etc/profile but apt-get still use the proxy-configuration!! I want now just to desactive the proxy-configuration and go back to direct internet connection. can someone help please?
[01:29] <slliness> astro76, just is easier when not around machine
[01:29] <coskun_diko> tenks
[01:29] <erawfish> slliness: automatix is baaad news
[01:29] <astro76> slliness: well I recommend reading that link and keep in mind we don't support systems which have used it
[01:29] <erawfish> and totally unsupported here
[01:29] <slliness> astro76, is there a reason picasa is not in synaptic for amd64?
[01:29] <slliness> aside from being 32bit
[01:30] <erawfish> slliness: not Free software
[01:30] <astro76> slliness: it's not in any repo, only google distributes it afaik
[01:30] <Zermelo> if I just tared my home directory, would that include all the hidden files too?
[01:30] <erawfish> 32bit software is not in 64bit repos
[01:30] <slliness> oh right
[01:30] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: When it goes crazy, what does ifconfig show?  does it confirm what network manager is telling you?
[01:30] <erawfish> Zermelo: tar -tvf <file>  |grep /. or  |grep .dotfile  to check
[01:30] <sarixe> hi, i'm having a pretty severe problem with OpenOffice.  when i create a new file and try to save it, it crashes and goes to a document recovery dialog.
[01:30] <astro76> slliness: I even wrote this handy page on installing it ;) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[01:30] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker : can you look at my pastebin ? i make logs of nearly everything i do
[01:31] <misslecommander> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52359/
[01:31] <sarixe> but if i already have an existing document, i can save it just fine.
[01:31] <misslecommander> that will show what i did, but that was hours agao and 2 restarts, then it decides it wants to die on me
[01:31] <slliness> so you think setting the installer to /opt would be good a good choice will it ask where to install the executable?
[01:31] <m2rt> "Set an environment variable named JRE_HOME to the pathname of
[01:31] <m2rt>  the directory into which you installed the JRE"  Hey anybody knows where I can set the variables...
[01:32] <erawfish> misslecommander: sudo /etc/network/interfaces
[01:32] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker : ifconfig shows proper
[01:32] <erawfish> m2rt: how did you install java?
[01:32] <erawfish> !java
[01:32] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[01:32] <m2rt> aww nice bot. thanks
[01:32] <FluxD> astro76, I need some help with this VNC :/
[01:33] <erawfish> ubotu: uninstall the sun.com binary FIRST
[01:33] <Starnestommy> erawfish: ubotu is a bot
[01:33] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker i think i keep pretty good logs, and i backup all files, just in case.
[01:34] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander:  Alright, so are you able to run 'sudo cp /home/default/Desktop/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces' ?
[01:34] <astro76> slliness: I really don't know about picasa, I do know it uses wine somehow (wheras google earth is native) so I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it
[01:34] <luchador> anyone know how to get a linksys wireless usb adapter working on ubuntu 7.10? i had it working on 6.06 then when i upgraded to 7.10 it wouldnt work
[01:34] <astro76> slliness: I'm thinking maybe it needs to write to it's directory
[01:34] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: Good habit to be in, I do the same as I inevitably bork something on a regular basis.
[01:34] <misslecommander> MCSbreak : yes, i did backup from desktop too
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> luchador: How did you upgrade?
[01:35] <astro76> FluxD: I haven't done vnc for awhile but ask the channel and see if anyone can help ;)
[01:35] <misslecommander> MCSbrekaer, can i just uninstall both, then reinstall both ? or is it forever messed up ?
[01:35] <FluxD> astro76, I asked many times no one seems to know
[01:35] <ryanakca> what's the command for four in a row?
[01:35] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander:  And you did not get the permission denied?  Were you able to edit the interfaces file and just stick in the defaults?
[01:36] <luchador> i completely installed it
[01:36] <luchador> whiped the partition
[01:36] <willscarlet^^> filthpig, would you reccomend pidgin over gaim ?
[01:36] <luchador> pidgin > gaim ANY DAY
[01:36] <willscarlet^^> :)
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> ryanakca: /usr/games/gnect  is the path and name
[01:36] <willscarlet^^> done
[01:36] <erawfish> Starnestommy: I know but you never met my fat finger before apparently ;)
[01:36] <astro76> FluxD: what are you trying to accomplish ultimately? why do you need to vnc to your server?
[01:36] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker : the interfaces file is retruned to its original , i restarted once again to see if it fixed itm,, but it didnt
[01:36] <ryanakca> Jack_Sparrow: thanks :D
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:36] <luchador> anyone know? ive been asking all day lol
[01:36] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: No, you can reinstall it.  try this:  'apt-get --reinstall install network-manager-gnome'
[01:37] <filthpig> willscarlet^^, it's the same thing, just a new name
[01:37] <misslecommander> perfect
[01:37] <jvai> ok good ppls... i'm ghost
[01:37] <erawfish> luchador: what chip is in it?
[01:37] <filthpig> luchador, which model is your usb adapter?
[01:37] <corinth> I'm wiping Windows off of my system! Woo!
[01:37] <luchador> its linksys wusbg54g version 4
[01:37] <mary-kate> i wiped windows vista off a new machine i bought
[01:37] <mary-kate> and put UBUNTU on
[01:37] <FluxD> astro76, ok basically it has no gui (or it had twm) so I installed ubuntu-desktop pakage then I setup VNC. I just want a server that looks like default desktop install
[01:38] <astro76> that's the only sane thing to do mary-kate
[01:38] <gmoore> is there a generic package for developer tools? eg compiler, gawk, linker, etc
[01:38] <luchador> it worked on 6.06
[01:38] <filthpig> wusb54gC, or wusb54g ? I have the C-edition and it works...sorta
[01:38] <m2rt> me too mary-kate :D
[01:38] <luchador> g
[01:38] <MCSbreaker> gmoore: 'build-essential'
[01:38] <luchador> i just did it all from terminal
[01:38] <luchador> using ifconfig and stuff
[01:38] <mary-kate> i was going to try vista
[01:38] <Gekkomon_Shogun> who knows about gameguard
[01:38] <rjune_> can anybody suggest a web-based accounting program in Ubuntu
[01:38] <mary-kate> but heard bad bad crap about it
[01:38] <luchador> but it wont work in 7.10
[01:38] <filthpig> hm
[01:38] <filthpig> weird
[01:38] <luchador> never seems to accept the dhcpoffer
[01:38] <corinth> I have a 250 gb hard drive. I'm creating a 2 gb swap partition. I want a partition for /, and the rest to go to /home. About how big should I make my root partition?
[01:39] <filthpig> mine wouldn't work until 7.10 :D
[01:39] <gmoore> MCSbreaker: thanks
[01:39] <IndyGunFreak> mary-kate: not really sure how bad iti s, but its a resource hog..., you need at least 2gigs of ram.
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> luchador: How did you upgrade  did you go through all versions or one big jump
[01:39] <MCSbreaker> mary-kate: I've run it at work for a good eight months, I'm not a big fan.
[01:39] <luchador> one big jump
[01:39] <MCSbreaker> gmoore: np
[01:39] <luchador> a 7.10 iso
[01:39] <mary-kate> lol
[01:39] <luchador> complete new install
[01:39] <mary-kate> i prefer XP over vista
[01:39] <luchador> it will scan for neighboring networks so i know its working
[01:39] <luchador> but i cant connect
[01:39] <filthpig> mary-kate, who doesn't ;)
[01:39] <mary-kate> but, ubuntu over XP
[01:40] <DG19075> I use Ubuntu for almost all that I do. Just trying to get Napster to work on this, and goom-bye Windows...
[01:40] <luchador> i switched to ubuntu like a week ago
[01:40] <luchador> love it so much
[01:40] <misslecommander> MSCbreaker : ok i did that, all looked to go, reinstalled, going to try restart now
[01:40] <luchador> never going back
[01:40] <m2rt> lol napster is still working?
[01:40] <DG19075> is a Napster subscriber
[01:40] <filthpig> luchador, sounds like the problem I had before. I could find the networks but not connect, it kept spinning on the WEP-key
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !wep
[01:41] <ubotu> WEP is totally insecure, don't use it, the full Wireless Documentation for Ubuntu can be found at:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:41] <kenan> When I am trying to ./configure tomboy-reminder-0.9 i get an error that says: configure: error: Can't find "mcs", the mono compiler in your PATH. How do I fix this?
[01:41] <mary-kate> o.O
[01:41] <corinth> I want to minimize the size of my root partition to maxamize space for a /home partition. I haev a 250 gb hard drive, about how big should I make the / partition?
[01:41] <mary-kate> we put WEP on our router, since then, it's going FASTER for connection
[01:41] <filthpig> huh
[01:41] <desertc> luchador: tell your friends and coworkers about ubuntu, and share a livecd with them so they can try it out
[01:41] <luchador> so i need to use a diff encryption?
[01:41] <corinth> I'm on the live cd right now.
[01:41] <nickrud> !find mcs | kenan
[01:41] <ubotu> kenan: Found: libxfce4mcs-client3, libxfce4mcs-dev, libxfce4mcs-manager3, xfce4-mcs-manager, xfce4-mcs-manager-dev (and 8 others)
[01:41] <luchador> i am
[01:41] <luchador> im burning copies and giving em out
[01:41] <nickrud> kenan: nope, not that one
[01:42] <mary-kate> hmmm
[01:42] <mary-kate> i should get into that
[01:42] <astro76> corinth: I'd probably make it 20 GB, which will give you plenty of room
[01:42] <mary-kate> i have TONS of copies of ubuntu, lol
[01:42] <luchador> heh
[01:42] <luchador> soooo
[01:42] <corinth> astro76: Thanks dude.
[01:42] <luchador> any workarounds for my adapter?
[01:42] <filthpig> luchador, do you get asked for the WEP/WPA-key when you're trying to connect?
[01:42] <corinth> !enter @ luchador
[01:42] <nickrud> kenan: you need mono-mcs
[01:42] <DG19075> This is one anvil-solid OS...
[01:42] <corinth> Bah, used to the suse channel. Heh.
[01:42] <luchador> yes
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> luchador: What adapter are you using.. model too if you have it
[01:42] <luchador> but im doing it from terminal
[01:43] <kenan> ahh found it in synaptic, thanks
[01:43] <luchador> linksys wireless usb adapter wusb54g
[01:43] <luchador> version 4
[01:43] <corinth> !return @ luchador
[01:43] <luchador> ?
[01:43] <luchador> use @?
[01:43] <filthpig> luchador, have you tried changing the key type? The default is "passphrase", but you also have "hex" and "ascii"
[01:43] <luchador> on 6.06 i used ifconfig and sudo iwlist wlan1 scanning etc
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> filthpig: Thanks for looking after him
[01:43] <luchador> yeah its a hex
[01:44] <rhs> luchador: isn't it iwconfig ?
[01:44] <luchador> diff commands for diff stuff
[01:44] <TigranG> Hi
[01:44] <luchador> i used this guide http://www.stoltenow.com/archives/2006/12/ubuntu_configur.html
[01:44] <dogson> tracker 0.6.3 in gutsy is so full of bugs, its currently using over 2gb ram on my system it cant be normal
[01:44] <DG19075> used a hex on my wireless setup b4 I went wired
[01:44] <filthpig> luchador, so you've selected hex in the dropdown menu too?
[01:44] <luchador> yes
[01:45] <filthpig> hmm
[01:45] <TigranG> I'm trying to get net send (message command in samba) set up correctly. I don't really know what to do. I've tried something I found off the web but its not working.
[01:45] <filthpig> try all options anyway
[01:46] <willscarlet^^> i am getting an error saying i need Glib 2.0 ..... when i run ./configure for pidgin .... my system looks to have libglib, but it wont get past it ... help?   :)
[01:46] <asdasdsa> how can i have a gif picture as my wallpaper?
[01:47] <m2rt> oh gosh I installed java on command line and now I still dont know how to: "Set an environment variable named JRE_HOME to the pathname of
[01:47] <m2rt>       the directory into which you installed the JRE"
[01:47] <filthpig> willscarlet^^, pidgin is installed by default on ubuntu
[01:47] <ilikebuntu000> right click the desktop and goto set background
[01:47] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: you're going to need a bunch of headers to compile that. Is it on fiesty?
[01:47] <ilikebuntu000> ug. theres a lot of problems
[01:47] <jumpkic1> is there a way to run a program so that it starts at a certain *nice* level
[01:47] <willscarlet^^> 7.04 ... the one before gutsy
[01:47] <ilikebuntu000> you all type fast
[01:48] <cafuego> type?
[01:48] <cafuego> we upload!
[01:48] <MCSbreaker> m2rt: try this command:  'export JRE_HOME=/PATHTOJAVA'
[01:48] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: sudo apt-get build-dep gaim will get you most if not all the deps you will need
[01:48] <ilikebuntu000> SOMEthing
[01:48] <jumpkic1> i.e. so you don't have to *renice* it afterwards
[01:48] <luchador> so anyone know?
[01:48] <Onyx> ally_xoxo: Were you able to set up the themes?
[01:48] <filthpig> well, I'm off
[01:48] <MCSbreaker> m2rt: That's only temporary, but it sets it.  If it works, we can set it up to be permanent.
[01:48] <filthpig> gonna try a few things
[01:48] <misslecommander> MCSbreak : that worked ! the Network Manager is now functional once again
[01:49] <jumpkic1> nevermind
[01:49] <jumpkic1> nice does that
[01:49] <willscarlet^^> nickrud, thanks ;)
[01:49] <jumpkic1> duh
[01:49] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker : thank you
[01:49] <TigranG> I'm trying to get net send (message command in samba) set up correctly. I don't really know what to do. I've tried something I found off the web but its not working.
[01:49] <tinin> wich flash player version do you advice me? latest one is buggy and slow as hell
[01:50] <ilikebuntu000> o is Flash player stable yet, Aagain?
[01:50] <ilikebuntu000> the flash is OK in repos?
[01:50] <Humanzy> flash player has been stable
[01:50] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: Nice!  Glad I could be of help.  =)
[01:50] <Humanzy> ubuntu isn't stable
[01:50] <ilikebuntu000> sic
[01:50] <Humanzy> flashplayer works with most linux distros
[01:50] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker : there was one thing i noticed when that happened -> the icon for XChat had been missing, now its back
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Humanzy: Please avoid saying things like that in here
[01:51] <ilikebuntu000> s'OK thats not what i use my linux box for Anyway
[01:51] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker could XChat be responsible for breaking NetMan ?
[01:51] <HellMind> Why my gutsy tries to modprobe /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-rt/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda~ntel.ko, instead /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-rt/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda~ntel.ko, How can I correct that isue?
[01:51] <tinin> I always install flash from Adobe, but the latest version for linux just SUCKS, is slow and crashes firefox all the time
[01:51] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker : its been the only thing other than FirFox that i been running when it happened
[01:51] <HellMind> I got a new module version to be installed
[01:51] <ilikebuntu000> but did Adobe fix that thihgn?
[01:51] <tinin> Could someone link or send me a 9.48 version
[01:52] <ilikebuntu000> maybe they still didnt fix that LOL.
[01:52] <tinin> ?
[01:52] <dogson> it crashes in windows to, adobe/macromedia isnt stable :P
[01:52] <ilikebuntu000> it used a b top8ic of This channel
[01:52] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander:  Heh, weirdness.  I would guess not, but I definitely can't say for sure.   Something  was fubar that the reinstall got though.
[01:52] <ChuckFu> what is the command to unlock apt-get
[01:52] <horizxon> should a computer POST without a processor?
[01:52] <erawfish> HellMind: depelte the extaneous module and run sudo depmod -a
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues
[01:52] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker : i had Knet Installed and running as well, so i suppose it  may have been that as well
[01:52] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[01:52] <ilikebuntu000> "dont install flash" said This channel
[01:52] <TigranG> Well now it sent the message from my linux system to win xp one, but I dont receive any messages, this is my message command line in smb.conf message command = /bin/sh -c 'gedit %s;rm %s' & and I also get this message when doign smbclient -M host params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file
[01:52] <TigranG> Is my message command wrong? :S
[01:52] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker can i use that "reinsta;;" for most any package ?
[01:52] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: Yeah, I saw that interfaces had been touched by knet.  It's possible.
[01:52] <ilikebuntu000> ty Jack
[01:52] <HellMind> erawfish: I did but when i reboot it tries to mod probe that old module
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> ilikebuntu000: See what the bot said..  We suggest you dont.... but still tell you how to do it
[01:53] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: Yep, that command will work to reinstall most any package.
[01:53] <erawfish> HellMind: even with depmod? I don't think so
[01:53] <HellMind> I think I will copy and overwrite the old module with the one on the kernel directory
[01:53] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker : thank you so much, i know i may complain, but its SO SO frustrating when i do nothing and things just fail. sorry
[01:53] <HellMind> I did depmod -a!
[01:53] <ilikebuntu000> yeah im fine until adobe figures out how to get flash to run like everything else runs then
[01:54] <ilikebuntu000> Then ill install 4 tux
[01:54] <erawfish> HellMind: with sudo?
[01:54] <FluxD> How do u change the default window manager ?
[01:54] <HellMind> Yes!
[01:54] <HellMind> I loaded the new module, it worked fine
[01:54] <FluxD> thru terminal
[01:54] <HellMind> I did depmod -a
[01:54] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: No worries, I still get to that point sometimes. ;)  Glad we could get you back up.
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> ilikebuntu000: all you have tod o is download the source from adobe.com, and it will work fine
[01:54] <ilikebuntu000> rofl das it? chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
[01:54] <ilikebuntu000> maaaaaAn das all U had to SAY
[01:54] <HellMind> But when i reboot i got symbols errors, cuz its trying to load the old one in the ubuntu folder
[01:54] <misslecommander> i dont think i will run Knet no more, i stopped it from starting on login
[01:54] <tumbleweed__> i lost the game.
[01:54] <erawfish> HellMind: but did you sudo depmod -a ?
[01:55] <slliness> astro76, ok now my system is really screwed up
[01:55] <erawfish> lastlog slliness
[01:55] <HellMind> erawfish: yes why?
[01:55] <MCSbreaker> Good, sometimes too many cooks in the kitchen.... you know how that goes.
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> ilikebuntu000: i can't really tell if youre being a smartass, but yes, just download the source from adobe.com and folllow the instructions, and it will work fine
[01:55] <HellMind> that should overwrite the paths?
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ilikebuntu000: That is what the link shows....
[01:55] <m2rt> MCSbreaker: the export command worked. how to make it permament?
[01:55] <erawfish> HellMind: cause you didn't say
[01:55] <slliness> astro76, is there a 64bit google earth I should have dled
[01:55] <HellMind> erawfish: I DID
[01:55] <HellMind> many times
[01:55] <FluxD> How do u change the default window manager thru terminal?
[01:55] <renliege> what is it that allows wlassistant to work independantly in Kubuntu but not in Ubuntu?
[01:55] <erawfish> you said you did depmod -a not sudo depmod -a
[01:56] <slliness> astro76, cause it freezes at the splash screen
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> ilikebuntu000: The fix seems fine for Firefox but others have isses still being worked on..
[01:56] <Ash_H> hi could someone help, im trying to update gutsy but it says "Could not download all repository indexes" and I get these errors. http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[01:56] <Ash_H> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[01:56] <Ash_H> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[01:56] <HellMind> erawfish:  Im root
[01:56] <MCSbreaker> m2rt:  type this in a terminal:  'vi ~/.profile'   At the bottom of the text file, put in that export line you entered and save.
[01:56] <erawfish> FluxD: why not change it when you log in via gdm
[01:56] <slliness> and I told the binary to be installed to /usr/bin and now it on the desktop
[01:56] <erawfish> !root > HellMind
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Ash_H: Please do not repeat
[01:56] <FluxD> erawfish, no gui
[01:56] <HellMind> root@Thunder:/etc# depmod -a
[01:56] <HellMind> root
[01:56] <HellMind> I HACKED MY Own box
[01:56] <misslecommander> MCSbrekaer : well i come here, to soak up knowledge, as i am noob. if this breaks, i am lost. without you guys all talkin about the many things, i dont know what i would do
[01:56] <erawfish> FluxD: when you have no gui there is no point in a W;
[01:57] <asdasdsa> how can i have a gif picture as my wallpaper?
[01:57] <erawfish> start a dispaymanager and seitch it theere
[01:57] <FluxD> erawfish, well I have vnc working after I login
[01:57] <rhs> FluxD: have you tried to create a .xsession file in your home directory and put the name of the window manager in it ?
[01:57] <HellMind> Why my gutsy tries to modprobe /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-rt/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda~ntel.ko, instead /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-rt/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda~ntel.ko, How can I correct that isue?
[01:57] <misslecommander> Jack_Sparrow : thanks Jack, i know you helped me before.
[01:57] <erawfish> FluxD: what WM does vnc give you?
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> np  I know it is frustrating
[01:57] <HellMind> There must be a way to change that path
[01:57] <FluxD> erawfish, kde
[01:58] <nickrud> HellMind: you did delete the old one, right?
[01:58] <HellMind> nickrud: no
[01:58] <davidwong> anyone know that daemon for mysql to make it run faster? is it dnj something? or djn? I forgot anyone know the mysql cache software liek that? thanks
[01:58] <slliness> erawfish, ??
[01:58] <HellMind> nickrud: why i should?
[01:58] <FluxD> rhs, let me ty that
[01:58] <erawfish> FluxD: check /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager
[01:58] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander:  All good, I learn a ton in here, just lurking and trying to help.  Good place to hang out to pick up things.
[01:58] <Abyssal> hi. want to get my webcam basically running.
[01:58] <nickrud> HellMind: because you don't want it.
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !hdaintel
[01:58] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[01:58] <narothepharoh> any cool games for ubuntu 7.10?
[01:58] <erawfish> slliness: just checking what your problem was. but you ran automatix
[01:58] <Abyssal> it is from logitech and i just plug it in my usb port.
[01:58] <HellMind> nickrud: I dont want to use it right noow
[01:58] <slliness> erawfish, no I didn't
[01:58] <HellMind> nickrud: that got something to do with this?
[01:58] <nickrud> HellMind: then move it out ouf the module tree.
[01:59] <TigranG> I can send messages from my linux system to win xp one, but I dont receive any messages from windows. I'm using samba and smbclient -M <host>. This is my message command line in smb.conf message command = /bin/sh -c 'gedit %s;rm %s' & and I also get this message when doing smbclient -M host: params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file. Any suggestions?
[01:59] <Abyssal> no reaction from ubuntu 7.10. how can i get i running?
[01:59] <HellMind> nickrud: how can i remove it?
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> narothepharoh: Lots.. FPS.. I like sauerbraten... since this is a support room, you might try asking in #Ubuntu-offtopic
[01:59] <HellMind> nickrud: inst loaded right now
[01:59] <Gekkomon_Shogun> who knows how to get gameguard to run
[01:59] <erawfish> < slliness> astro76, automatix installed the binary executable for google earth and the install folder in ~/...
[01:59] <nickrud> HellMind: mv /path/to/.ko ~/Desktop for now
[01:59] <HellMind> nickrud: then to install the new one, i must overwrite the old?
[01:59] <Shadow147> Gekkomon_Shogun | !wine
[01:59] <latergua> how can i have a gif picture as my wallpaper?
[02:00] <HellMind> nickrud: that sounds too dirty
[02:00] <emman> how do i install apache 2..2?
[02:00] <Abyssal> hi. want to get my webcam basically running. it is from logitech and i just plug it in my usb port. no reaction from ubuntu 7.10. how can i get i running?
[02:00] <slliness> erawfish, I used the http:// dl for google earth and followed astro76 directions
[02:00] <erawfish> emman: apt-get install apache2.2
[02:00] <erawfish> electrofreak_: you said you ran automatix. that's enough for me. HAND
[02:00] <nickrud> HellMind: you must _remove_ the old one. It's not dirty, you simply have a conflict. If the build had been compatible, it would have overwritten it during the install
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> latergua: USe a tool to convert it.. gimp may do it
[02:00] <narothepharoh> jack_ sparrow: thanks
[02:00] <MCSbreaker> m2rt: After you've done that, open up another terminal and try 'echo $JRE_HOME'  and make sure it worked.
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> narothepharoh: np
[02:00] <emman> erroe
[02:00] <emman> error
[02:01] <slliness> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth astro76 erawfish
 i want the picture to move in wallpaper
[02:01] <HellMind> nickrud: why it doesnt look for that module in the right path?, where is the path predefined?
[02:01] <erawfish> emman: WHAT error. pastebin ALL of the output
[02:01] <emman> Reading state information... Done
[02:01] <emman> E: Couldn't find package apache2.2
[02:01] <erawfish> emman: oh: apt-get install apache2
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> latergua: /j #Compiz  and see what they can do with effects...  ccsm  emerald etc..
[02:01] <erawfish> sorry, mea culpa
[02:02] <emman> same error
[02:02] <erawfish> pastebin your sources.list
[02:02] <nickrud> HellMind: Look. You've been told the fix. You have used a source package that was not adapted to the ubuntu build, so manual intervention is required.
[02:02] <creeed> hello, I should export Proxy-configurations to connect from a proxy at work, I wrote some lines too in /etc/profile to do this. Now I removed the lines from /etc/profile but apt-get still use the proxy-configuration!! I want now just to desactive the proxy-configuration and go back to direct internet connection. can someone help please?
[02:02] <dre> Does anyone use Foxit to read PDF's? For the life of me I can't figure out how to make it print page numbers
[02:02] <kitche> creeed: source /etc/profile
[02:02] <astro76> slliness: it's 32bit only AFAIK
[02:03] <HellMind> nickrud: ok i will delete it
[02:03] <kitche> creeed: that's the command you need to use for what you want
[02:03] <erawfish> creeed: have you logged out and logged back in?
[02:03] <HellMind> nickrud: i wonder if im using old modules beside that one
[02:03] <erawfish> creeed: also what does "env" say?
[02:03] <icesword> hi,i want to ask ,is mysql free or business,and if not,what database should i use?
[02:03] <latergua> ok
 ok
[02:03] <misslecommander> dre : doesnt your printer config allow you to put page numbers ?
[02:03] <nickrud> HellMind: quite possible. the !hdaintel page points out the module(s) you have to delete
[02:04] <nickrud> !hdaintel | HellMind
[02:04] <ubotu> HellMind: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[02:04] <slliness> astro76, it is only the installer bin on my desktop, apologizes, but it still hangs on splash screen
[02:04] <erawfish> icesword: mysql is GPLed for non commercial use (very stupid license)
[02:04] <dre> i looked through all the settings, didnt see anything, its a brother printer
[02:04] <erawfish> but basically it is GPLed until you want support from them
[02:04] <BlubberBla> http://selbst-schuld.3-a.net/?go=76cc588619e
[02:04] <astro76> slliness: you should not put anything yourself in /usr (except in /usr/local) as shown on that page
[02:04] <nickrud> erawfish: isn't that a mis application of the licence? (and never mind, off topic)
[02:04] <luis> can someone tell me the command for running apps? please
[02:04] <icesword> erawfish, what do you mean ,by very stupid license,is my question stupid?
[02:04] <astro76> slliness: but it's 32bit
[02:04] <creeed> erawfish, :$ env | grep proxy
[02:04] <creeed> http_proxy=http://10.194.100.130:8080/
[02:04] <creeed> no_proxy=localhost,127.0.0.0/8,*.local
[02:05] <slliness> astro76, erawfish and it installed to applications menu as well
[02:05] <latergua> how can i have a moving g if picture as my wallpaper(Ubuntu)?
[02:05] <slliness> but still hangs
[02:05] <erawfish> nickrud: imho yes, it is what mysql ab claims/claimed. total BS
[02:05] <nickrud> luis: you would use the apps's name, like   firefox   in the terminal
[02:05] <luis> danke
[02:05] <rhs> latergua: moving gif won't make a background moving
[02:05] <creeed> erawfish, but in /etc/profile the proxy-configuration is deactived!
[02:05] <kitche> latergua: I know e17 can do that not sure ab about anything
[02:05] <luis> thanks nickrud
[02:05] <slliness> astro76, shouldn't matter unless multi user though and it let me select it from drop down box
[02:05] <ks3> Creed, 'unset http_proxy'
[02:05] <erawfish> creeed: have you done what I asked?
[02:05] <icesword> erawfish, you hear me?
[02:05] <TigranG> I can send messages from my linux system to win xp one, but I dont receive any messages from windows. I'm using samba and smbclient -M <host>. This is my message command line in smb.conf message command = /bin/sh -c 'gedit %s;rm %s' & and I also get this message when doing smbclient -M host: params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file. Any suggestions?
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> latergua: Please... Join....   /j #Compiz  and see what they can do with effects...
[02:06] <erawfish> icesword: very stupid MYSQL AB company
[02:06] <astro76> slliness: it has nothing to do with multiuser, it has to do with what is managed by APT
[02:06] <creeed> erawfish, you mean logged out an in back, yes
[02:06] <astro76> linux is always multiuser anyway
[02:06] <erawfish> creeed: I asked you more than that
[02:06] <MCSbreaker> icesword: They let anyone use it, without restrictions if it's a home user.  If it's used in business, then they would like you to pay.
[02:06] <erawfish> astro76: unless you boot in singler user mode...
[02:06] <dre> thanks anyways! bye
[02:06] <slliness> astro76, why does xchat beep everytime I type now?
[02:07] <kitche> MCSbreaker: most GPL software can be like that if they want it to be
[02:07] <creeed> erawfish, I copied what env about proxy says because the output of env is long!
[02:07] <astro76> slliness: I have no idea
[02:07] <slliness> astro76, ok
[02:07] <MCSbreaker> kitche: Yep.
[02:07] <erawfish> kitche: no it can't
[02:07] <icesword> MCSbreaker, yes ,i see,then what other database software can you advice?
[02:07] <kitche> erawfish: umm sure you can
[02:08] <erawfish> creeed: I still want to see it all. and you haven't pasted an url
[02:08] <slliness> astro76, I thought local was for multiusers and usr/bin was for current user
[02:08] <MCSbreaker> icesword: Are you going to be using it for a business?  Or just playing with it at home?
[02:08] <jussive> I've got a really nasty problem on a fresh install of Gutsy that I'd love to bounce off you -- specifically, if some of y'all could try out the little test program and see if you get the same result. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-defaults/+bug/176038
[02:08] <bkar> icesword-> postgres
[02:08] <erawfish> kitche: if something is GPL I cannot demand license paymends from you for it when you use it for business reasons and none if you use it for home reasons. if I do that the software is not under GPL simply as that
[02:08] <creeed> erawfish, can I do this on a dialog window?
[02:09] <astro76> slliness: no /usr is managed by apt, and /usr/local is for your own compiled software and other local changed (sometimes /usr is networked)
[02:09] <MCSbreaker> erawfish: Dual licensing.
[02:09] <erawfish> !paste > Creed
[02:09] <kitche> erawfish: the commerical software as more code in it then the personal one if you actually look at it
[02:09] <icesword> MCSbreaker, i want to use it for business
[02:09] <erawfish> MCSbreaker: you still have to comply with the GPL. and if you discriminate _under the GPL_ between different uses, it's not GPL anymore. end of story
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> jussive: This isnt the place for something like that.. look for a programming channel...
[02:09] <kitche> erawfish: and yes you can actually make gpl software commerical it's even in the gpl license
[02:09] <astro76> !fhs | slliness
[02:09] <ubotu> slliness: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[02:10] <jussive> Fair enough.
[02:10] <erawfish> and it doesn't matter how many licenses your distribute it under
[02:10] <ks3> icesword:  mysql community edition is free for use by anyone
[02:10] <nickrud> !offtopic | erawfish MCSbreaker and nickrud (since I started this crap)
[02:10] <ubotu> erawfish MCSbreaker and nickrud (since I started this crap): #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:10] <erawfish> kitche: I said payment for a licnese. read more carefully
[02:10] <icesword> nickrud, sorry
[02:10] <slliness> astro76, so you think /usr/local will fix it?
[02:10] <MCSbreaker> icesword: you can do what ks3 said and run the mysql community edition, or try postgres.
[02:10] <creeed> erawfish,  hmm sorry it's my first channelvisit, I dont understand what you mean :(
[02:11] <astro76> slliness: as I said twice, it's 32bit, didn't you say you are running 64bit?
[02:11] <erawfish> !paste | creeed
[02:11] <ubotu> creeed: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:11] <icesword> MCSbreaker, ok ,thank you
[02:11] <MCSbreaker> np
[02:11] <kitche> erawfish: go to -offtopic sicne I'll explain it there since the commerical mysql has more features in it then the one you can download for free from their site so it's not payment for license
[02:11] <erawfish> paste it ther
[02:11] <Creed> erawfish, eh? i already know about pastbin lol
[02:11] <creeed> thx
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: Catch you tomorrow...  Goodnight
[02:11] <erawfish> kitche: the ubuntu mysql is GPL. even if I power my hosting company with it (clearly commercial) I can use it. end of story
[02:11] <slliness> astro76, when I try to launch it via command line it says its already running
[02:11] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: see you
[02:11] <TigranG> I can send messages from my linux system to win xp one, but I dont receive any messages from windows. I'm using samba and smbclient -M <host>. This is my message command line in smb.conf message command = /bin/sh -c 'gedit %s;rm %s' & and I also get this message when doing smbclient -M host: params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file. Any suggestions?
[02:12] <willscarlet^^> ive just installed all the gaim dependancies ..... for pidgin .... ive configured, and run 'make' but 'make install' wont complete without libpurple
[02:12] <astro76> slliness: you should probably kill it
[02:12] <kitche> erawfish: ok whatever you say I knowt he gpl license a lot better then you
[02:12] <slliness> astro76, why would it matter if it 32 in 64 bit environment
[02:12] <erawfish> lol
[02:12] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: the general rule of thumb is   apt-cache search libpurple | grep dev  to find the headers you need
[02:12] <Ubunoob> need help getting wireless working. ubuntu 7.10 shows a wireless signal and connects, but still no internet.
[02:12] <creeed> erawfish, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52360/
[02:12] <killick> Hi.  How can one tell which /dev/<file> belongs to a usb device?
[02:12] <willscarlet^^> nickrud, thanks man
[02:12] <sgrover> New motherboard, same *buntu install.  My NIC is now recognized as eth2 - I need this to be eth1 so that my VMware virtual nics work as expected.  Anyone know how to reset the eth0 designation?
[02:13] <erawfish> creeed: grep PROXY ~/.*
[02:13] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: many times they'll say they they want   purple , you tack lib on the front and do the search
[02:13] <willscarlet^^> nickrud, it finished without appearing to do anything
[02:13] <astro76> slliness: because it won't work
[02:13] <erawfish> creeed: any output?
[02:13] <TigranG> nickrud: Maybe you know something about this: I can send messages from my linux system to win xp one, but I dont receive any messages from windows. I'm using samba and smbclient -M <host>. This is my message command line in smb.conf message command = /bin/sh -c 'gedit %s;rm %s' & and I also get this message when doing smbclient -M host: params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in...
[02:13] <TigranG> ...configuration file. Any suggestions?
[02:13] <johnficca> Hi I'm trying to install the ati driver in ubuntu 7.10 and its asking me something I've not see before its this *** compiz-manager (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
[02:13] <|Quest|_>  if i ssh or telnet any shell. can i be harmed or what harm can i make to the shell?
[02:13] <slliness> I have run other 32 binaries in a 64 bit b4
[02:14] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: libpurple may not be in feisty.  you may have to compile that lib
[02:14] <johnficca> what should I say?
[02:14] <slliness> I have run other 32 binaries in a 64 bit b4 astro76
[02:14] <leros> i'm having some troubles with a remote connection to an ubuntu machine
[02:14] <testuser> Is someone here available to offer a helping hand?
[02:14] <nickrud> TigranG: my eyes crossed as soon as I saw the word samba, I know nothing about samba
[02:14] <leros> can someone help me?, its kinda complicated
[02:14] <TigranG> nickrud: heh ok
[02:14] <erawfish> quaala: if you ssh to something you are a totally normal user there and can do any harm a norma user can do on the system
[02:14] <astro76> slliness: example?
[02:14] <creeed> erawfish, it takes a lot off time!!
[02:14] <testuser> I have  a sound card issue
[02:14] <willscarlet^^> nickrud, i downloaded libpurple-dev_2.3.1-2_all .... but requires many dependancies, some of which conflict
[02:14] <johnficca> should I  Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
[02:14] <erawfish> yourself you can only be harmed if ssh has a buffer overflow
[02:15] <johnficca> or  N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
[02:15] <Tetracomm> Hi.
[02:15] <johnficca> ?
[02:15] <testuser> It seems my master volume control doesnt work
[02:15] <killick> Hi.  How can one tell which /dev/<file> belongs to a usb device?
[02:15] <erawfish> creeed: somewhere in a file there is a HTTP_PROXY on yout siystem set. either in ~ or in /etc. if not: then you didn't really log out
[02:15] <testuser> when I command line alsa I can change the volume via PCM and headset
[02:15] <testuser> but not master volume
[02:15] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: not suprising. Welcome to the world of dependency hell. I did my stint there, that's why I stick to standard ubuntu sources now
[02:15] <testuser> any ideas?
[02:16] <erawfish> creeed: and that would mean you lied to me. I want to think good things about people so I'd say you didn't lie. for now
[02:16] <creeed> lie!!
[02:16] <roshan> i've tried the new restricted drivers for my 8600gt; however, they do not work. Every time after the ubuntu loading screen my monitor goes blank and a message about "No input signal go to power save" pops up.
[02:16] <erawfish> killick: dmesg, blkid
[02:16] <icesword> killick, it depends on what hard disk you use,if hda is your hd,then usb may be sda
[02:16] <willscarlet^^> yah ... ive killed ubuntu before ... i dont feel like getting t where i've got cleanly all over again :)
[02:16] <Tetracomm> Does anyone have any idea as to why Amarok doesn't work after using VirtualBox? It works again once I restart, and my other media players won't play FLAC files after using VirtualBox either, could someone please help me?
[02:16] <creeed> I aint!
[02:16] <slliness> astro76, skype, flash, picasa
[02:16] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: That's probably a gutsy dev header, and not compatible with feisty too
[02:16] <|Quest|_>  if i ssh or telnet any shell. can i be harmed or what harm can i make to the shell?
[02:16] <testuser> ummm
[02:17] <killick> icesword: my hds are sdb and sdb1.  USB drive is what I need to learn
[02:17] <willscarlet^^> im not upgrading to gutsy .... i couldnt get my wireless chipset working
[02:17] <sgrover> any way to force my NIC to be eth0?  (rather than eth2)?
[02:17] <Ubunoob> need help getting wireless working. ubuntu 7.10 shows a wireless signal and connects, but still no internet.
[02:17] <erawfish> |Quest|_: if you ask something, you should at least read the channel. and oh:
[02:17] <bkar> sgrover-> look into udev
[02:17] <erawfish> !repeat | |Quest|_
[02:17] <ubotu> |Quest|_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:17] <icesword> killick, maybe it is sdc
[02:17] <rhs> killick: pastebin your dmesg
[02:17] <slliness> astro76, are you trying to say that 64bit processors cannot run 32 bit code?
[02:17] <misslecommander> willscarlet : took me a while to get my wireless running on gutsy, but eventually managed
[02:17] <roshan> !patience
[02:17] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:17] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: your options are figure out your wireless, settle on gaim, or look for someone who has backported pidgen to feisty for you
[02:17] <testuser> ubotu...been there, done that
[02:17] <erawfish> sgrover: ls /etc/udev/rules.d/*net*   one of those files determins what MAC is what ethX
[02:17] <testuser> I will be patient
[02:17] <bkar> Ubunoob-> can you elaborate how your network is setup? who own the AP? how is AP connected to the internet?
[02:17] <killick> icesword: ok thanks.
[02:18] <mary-kate> i just tried to join ##ubuntu, and it says forwerding me to #ubuntu
[02:18] <mattgyver83> Is it possible to set different users to login to different networks at login??
[02:18] <mary-kate> when i'm already here
[02:18] <erawfish> !pidgin
[02:18] <mary-kate> lol
[02:18] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[02:18] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: or get the source for libpurple and compile it yourself
[02:18] <sgrover> erawfish: Thanks.  I'm checking it out.
[02:18] <mary-kate> what the heck is +J
[02:18] <testuser> lol
[02:18] <leros> I use PuTTY to remote connect to an ubuntu machine. I started a vncserver that starts a gnome-session. I've used vnc to connect and it works but the bars on top and bottom are gone. I can't use ctrl-alt-backspace to restart x for some reason. I've tried logginng off VNC and PuTTY, but the problem still remains when I log back in.
[02:18] <testuser> talking to a bot
[02:18] <willscarlet^^> ahh im in no hurry to kill ubuntu :)) nickrud   thanks for your help thus far anyway!
[02:18] <astro76> slliness: it's a matter of how the libraries are set up
[02:18] <astro76> slliness: there's a 64bit deb for picasa
[02:18] <adub> how can i go about updating my icons on my menu
[02:18] <adub> applications menu
[02:19] <testuser> can i get a little pm from someone with sound card experience?
[02:19] <creeed> erawfish, if you want to help me so do that if not or you cant so pls stop say everything!
[02:19] <astro76> slliness: and a workaround for flash, no idea about skype
[02:19] <mary-kate> what the heck is -J
[02:19] <MCSbreaker> leros: Even in fullscreen?
[02:19] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: if you use the standard ./configure, libpurple will be installed to /usr/local . You probably* won't break anything, and it's easily removed
[02:19] <adub> like a program that when normally installed it shows up in my applications menu this time its not showing up
[02:19] <Pirate-King> hello
[02:20] <slliness> astro76, so noone that has a 64bit cpu has google earth
[02:20] <Pirate-King> what would wine be used for?
[02:20] <testuser> sound cards anyone?
[02:20] <adub> i right click and go to edit update on applications menu and its not in the list either but i know its installed b/c i can run from command line
[02:20] <astro76> slliness: I have no idea
[02:20] <Pirate-King> !wine
[02:20] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[02:20] <leros> MCSbreaker, yes. i got an error saying panel conflict and it went away. I've tried logging into a different physical machine, but the problem seems to be following me (shared settings for each user I suppose)
[02:20] <mary-kate> what's -J do to a channel
[02:20] <nickrud> Pirate-King: to make your computer drunk on poison
[02:20] <testuser> I have sound
[02:20] <Pirate-King> lol
[02:20] <Werpower> excuse me can someboy help me with a problem with wine
[02:20] <testuser> its just the master control doesnt work
[02:20] <roshan> by chance, does anyone have an 8600 that is working with the restricted drivers?
[02:20] <icesword> Pirate-King, ask this in #wine, or go to winehq,com
[02:20] <testuser> all the sound controls work in applications and players
[02:20] <Pirate-King> ok
[02:20] <Pirate-King> ty
[02:20] <testuser> just not the master control in Ubuntu
[02:21] <mary-kate> there's a #wind here?
[02:21] <wenbo> esdfedf
[02:21] <mary-kate> er, #wine
[02:21] <nickrud> mary-kate: #winehq
[02:21] <testuser> anyone here familiar with alsa?
[02:21] <powergoal> What do I need to apt-get install in ubuntu to manually compile source codes?
[02:21] <testuser> do they have their own channel?
[02:21] <rhs> testuser: do you use gnome ?
[02:21] <TigranG> I can send messages from my linux system to win xp one, but I dont receive any messages from windows. I'm using samba and smbclient -M <host>. This is my message command line in smb.conf message command = /bin/sh -c 'gedit %s;rm %s' & and I also get this message when doing smbclient -M host: params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file. Any suggestions?
[02:21] <ZionPsyfer> leros: Hmmm, k so it's a client side config thing most likely.  What happens if you move the top panel down to the bottom?
[02:21] <mary-kate> holy cow, i've been on freenode this long, and didn't know about the wine channels lol
[02:21] <soldats> !ask > testuser
[02:21] <nickrud> testuser:  build-essential
[02:21] <robdig> testuser: right click on the volume control, and select preferences. in the dialog box, choose pcm...usually works
[02:21] <HellMind> what is the next ubuntu codename i want to try the test one,
[02:21] <astro76> slliness: I'm sure there's a workaround
[02:21] <leros> ZionPsyfer, I don't have any panels at all. Thats the problem
[02:21] <nickrud> powergoal: build-essential , sorry testuser that wasn't for you
[02:21] <soldats> hell
[02:22] <soldats> dang
[02:22] <astro76> !hardy | HellMind
[02:22] <ubotu> HellMind: hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:22] <dogson> slliness, most 32bit binaries works fine as long as ia32 shared libs are installed
[02:22] <kitche> HellMind: hardy
[02:22] <soldats> HellMind, hardy
[02:22] <powergoal> nickrud: thankyou
[02:22] <testuser> AWWWW
[02:22] <HellMind> it uses the last alsa?
[02:22] <testuser> if you could just imagine how stupid I feel right now
[02:22] <ZionPsyfer> leros: Even the bottom?  does it look like a resolution thing, or are they just not being drawn?
[02:22] <nickrud> testuser: don't ever consider yourself stupid when it comes to alsa, hardly anyone really understands it
[02:22] <alison> LOAD listen
[02:23] <robdig> testuser: don't kick yourself...took me a while to find it :)
[02:23] <alison> LOAD -e Listen.py
[02:23] <alison> why doesnt it load?
[02:23] <testuser> I even tried reinstalling the lastest driver set from alsa
[02:23] <slliness> dogson, how do I list pids again?
[02:23] <alison> http://www.harshj.com/2007/11/25/listen-music-player-announcer-plugin-for-xchat/
[02:23] <leros> ZionPsyfer, yes, they are not being drawn. And I can't find out how to get them back
[02:23] <Ubunoob> need help getting wireless working. ubuntu 7.10 shows a wireless signal and connects, but still no internet. instructions to install ndiswrapper and blacklist drivers?
[02:23] <alison> im having problems installing "Listen" plugin for mirc, any ideas?
[02:23] <testuser> ok, well....now another question about sound
[02:23] <kitche> alison: hard to tell but it looks like a python script to me
[02:23] <testuser> now that I can control the volume
[02:24] <dogson> slliness, ps
[02:24] <testuser> how do I setup 6ch sound?
[02:24] <FluxD> How do u change the default window manager thru terminal? I remember something that gave a blue screen and u had to select either kde or gnome from list
[02:24] <rhs> Ubunoob: did you "dhclient device" ?
[02:24] <testuser> I dont see any options in alsa for assigning outputs
[02:24] <Ubunoob> rhs, no
[02:24] <ZionPsyfer> leros: Quality/compression settings? other than that, this will be beyond me.  Someone else have more vnc experience?
[02:24] <slliness> dogson, there is no pid for googleearth
[02:24] <rhs> Ubunoob: try it
[02:24] <nickrud> FluxD: that's the login manager choice, not the window manager.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:25] <mary-kate> jeez...i'm glad i'm not contact for #ubuntu...i'd be going CRAZY with all the questions...lol
[02:25] <FluxD> nickrud, ty
[02:25] <rhs> Ubunoob: where device is a name like wlan0
[02:25] <astro76> slliness: try: ps aux | grep -i google
[02:25] <akorn> hey how do i create a file in the terminal?
[02:25] <bkar> FluxD inside  /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[02:25] <akorn> i mean folder!
[02:25] <FluxD> bkar, I dont have gui
[02:25] <mary-kate> mkdir foldername
[02:25] <robdig> akorn: mkdir name
[02:25] <mary-kate> :P
[02:25] <akorn> thanks both :)
[02:26] <Apalo_III> How do I bypass operating system checking in Opera?
[02:26] <FluxD> nickrud, how do u restart x thru terminal ?
[02:26] <leros> I don't think its a VNC problem. I can login to Putty and set the resoltion to something way less than my current screen (so I can be sure I'm seeing all of it) and the panels aren't there. I guess I need to find a way to reset X. Like how you woud ctrl+alt+backspace witha  normal desktop
[02:26] <doctordevice> my wireless card identifies as wifi0. how do I make it identify as wlan0 so ndiswrapper will work?
[02:26] <Ubunoob> rhs, my brother was on here earlier today, taking to masterskrek i think, and he got his wireless working in 10 mins, using ndiswrapper and a few terminal cmds
[02:26] <nickrud> FluxD: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[02:26] <mary-kate> :)
[02:26] <bkar> doctordevice-> man udev
[02:26] <Apalo_III> How do I make Opera spoof my operating system?
[02:26] <slliness> astro76, ok its there
[02:26] <ZionPsyfer> leros: 'sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart'  gdm or xdm
[02:27] <leros> sadly, i dont have root access
[02:27] <ZionPsyfer> gah
[02:27] <Ubunoob> leros, do it in recovery mode
[02:27] <bkar> leros to restart gdm  you  /etc/init.d/gdm restart  if youcant cnt+al+backspace
[02:27] <slliness> astro76, should I remove google earth and install ia32 and then ge?
[02:27] <ZionPsyfer> bkar: He doesn't have sudo access
[02:27] <rhs> Ubunoob: what does iwconfig show ?
[02:27] <astro76> slliness: I'm not familiar with 64bit really
[02:28] <m2rt> MCSbreaker what output should echo $JRE_HOME give to me?
[02:28] <slliness> dogson, ??
[02:28] <sco50000> rhs: it shows wireless connections
[02:28] <testuser> anyone point me in the right direction to configure 6ch sound using ALSA?
[02:28] <dogson> slliness, just install googleearth in synaptic?, it should depend on ia32 libs
[02:28] <nickrud> doctordevice: udev is not simple, but this link should give you something to work with. The full page has a good explanation. http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#example-netif
[02:28] <ZionPsyfer> m2rt: It should spew out the path to your java home directory.
[02:28] <slliness> dogson, not in synaptic
[02:29] <testuser> odd thing, when I use the driver for the sound card the PCM toggle doesnt work
[02:29] <testuser> I have to use ALSA
[02:29] <dogson> slliness, apt-get aptitude whatever :P
[02:29] <slliness> dogson, hang on will check again
[02:29] <m2rt> ZionPsyfer well it did not :(
[02:29] <ZionPsyfer> m2rt: try something, type in 'bash' in your terminal and try it again.
[02:30] <astro76> slliness: it might still be in medibuntu
[02:30] <bkar> ZionPsyfer-> it has to be set,
[02:30] <ZionPsyfer> bkar:  I had him add it to his .profile
[02:30] <astro76> !medibuntu | slliness
[02:30] <ubotu> slliness: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[02:30] <johnficca> ok so I installed the ati driver and when I rebooted I got a low graphics mod warning and now my resolution is like 800x600 is there a way to fix this...help?
[02:31] <leros> ZionPsyfer, when i connect to the machine I get a window saying "I've detected a panel already running and will now exit"
[02:31] <ZionPsyfer> leros: Hmmm, that might be the key
[02:31] <sco50000> how do i disable IPv6? i want IPv4
[02:31] <testuser> ok, got volume control working under the drive for the chipset
[02:32] <testuser> seems there's a PCM-2 for it
[02:32] <|Quest|_>  iam asking coz some one asked me to give shell to host his eggdrop. and i asked some one too. to host my eggdrop on his pc.  i just wanted to know how it works. how to setup and what type of acces is given to a person using shell on someones else pc. and does the user has any thing to worry?
[02:32] <ZionPsyfer> leros:  You could try killing gnome-panel before vnc'ing in and see what we see.
[02:32] <testuser> ok, so next step....speaker configuration
[02:32] <testuser> any ideas where that switch might be?
[02:32] <sco50000> how do i disable IPv6? i want IPv4
[02:32] <kitche> |Quest|_: yes I would acytually set the user into a chroot myself since they can do a lot of stuff with access to your pc
[02:32] <bkar> sco50000-> in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases you disable a module
[02:33] <sco50000> bkar, ok, thanks
[02:33] <alexplz> How do I do a disk check? ALl of a sudden my laptop is running really slow (its always really fast) and in dmesg there are a bunch of messags about sda, ata1.00, write cache, I/O error dev sda etc... i think there might be a disk problem! plz help
[02:33] <dogson> sco50000, alias ipv6 off in modules.conf
[02:33] <testuser> I hate to use the word "windows" but the original driver pack had a means of configuring the speakers
[02:33] <brophat> I instaled apache, made a little test page, I can view it locally but anyone external who try to load it they report that it just hangs and never loads for them.
[02:33] <ZionPsyfer> m2rt:  Just to make sure, the last line in your .profile  that you edited is the same thing you entered in the terminal to make it work?
[02:33] <leros> ZionPsyfer, my noobness is gonna show here. How do I get the process ID so that I can kill gnome-panel?
[02:33] <nickrud> brophat: have you forwarded port 80 through your router?
[02:34] <sco50000> dogson, where is modules.conf?
[02:34] <kitche> leros: either top or ps aux|grep gnome-panel
[02:34] <icesword> alexplz, you may have to restart your computer,enter safe mode,umount your disk ,then fsck
[02:34] <astro76> leros: killall gnome-panel
[02:34] <brophat> nickrud i have done nothing, just installed apache
[02:34] <DOOM_NX> kalhnuxta guys
[02:34] <DOOM_NX> goodnight guys
[02:34] <leros> astro76, thanks. that did something
[02:34] <HellMind> where can I get info about hardy, which kernel it uses , which version of alsa too :S
[02:34] <johnficca> ok I found out its a bug in the driver for my screen res and a fix should be out next week
[02:34] <nickrud> brophat: if you are behind a router, the router won't allow outside access to your machine unless you give explicit permission on the router
[02:34] <ZionPsyfer> leros: No worries.  heh.  There's a few ways to do it.  The first is to do something like 'ps -eaf | grep gnome-panel'  That will give the pid.  Else, the command 'killall gnome-panel' will kill all processes matching that name
[02:35] <sgrover> erawfish: Thanks for the tip.  I got it.  the file was /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.  It needed a little tweak.
[02:35] <icesword> HellMind, try uname -a
[02:35] <nickrud> HellMind: ask on #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <brophat> nickrud how can I find out how to do that?
[02:35] <HellMind> icesword: I could try reboot too
[02:35] <sco50000> dogson, where is modules.conf?
[02:35] <m2rt> yes ZionPsyfer. but I think I made a mistake with editing. I edited in konsole. but maybe should have done it with gedit? welll will try
[02:35] <thingymabob> i asked this in the server channel, but nobody is responding there.  and it's long, so sorry.  installing Ubuntu Server edition.  it gets through most of the installation just fine, then when it's time to "select and install software" it fails on me...I don't have it in front of me, so I can't remember the error it gives me.  then it goes to the overall menu of installing the OS.  ignoring that, figuring I can install that stuff later, I choose to ins
[02:35] <nickrud> brophat: your router manual, or http://portforward.com/
[02:35] <dogson> sco50000, try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[02:35] <icesword> HellMind, what you mean
[02:35] <brophat> nickrud also why does my router let us talk?
[02:35] <testuser> robdig...thanks for the help
[02:36] <ZionPsyfer> m2rt: No worries, either way works.  I just used gedit for ease of use.  If you're comfortable in emacs/vi, etc. Then it's all good.
[02:36] <vrkhans> hey any one using E17
[02:36] <alexplz> icesword: so just, reboot enter safe mode, umount /dev/sda then fsck /dev/sda ?
[02:36] <HellMind> icesword: I mean you sucks
[02:36] <slliness> http://n01getsout.com/blog/2006/11/26/google-earth-for-linux-freezing-with-ati/ astro
[02:36] <slliness> http://n01getsout.com/blog/2006/11/26/google-earth-for-linux-freezing-with-ati/ astro76
[02:36] <nickrud> brophat: because you started the connection to irc.freenode.net from your end.
[02:36] <leros> ZionPsyfer, that worked. Excellent
[02:36] <m2rt> ZionPsyfer no you told to use vi :D
[02:36] <leros> thanks all
[02:36] <sco50000> bkar, how do i disable the module? do i just delete the line that says: "alias net-pf-10 ipv6"
[02:36] <astro76> slliness: yeah I've heard of that too, never happend to me
[02:36] <brophat> nickrud uhm ok, so you mean if you wanted to direct chat to me it would not work?
[02:36] <ZionPsyfer> m2rt: Gah!  did I?  ok.  'gedit ~/.profile' then
[02:37] <vrkhans> is any one using  enlightenment  
[02:37] <bkar> sco50000-> alias ipv6 off
[02:37] <ZionPsyfer> leros:  Sweetness.
[02:37] <sco50000> bkar, ok
[02:37] <ZionPsyfer> Panel came up?
[02:37] <bkar> sco50000-> and yes comment that alias net-pf-10 ipv6
[02:37] <kitche> vrkhans: which enlightenment?
[02:37] <vrkhans> kitche E17
[02:37] <ZionPsyfer> vrkhans: Not since 16, are you using it?
[02:38] <kitche> vrkhans: I used to use it
[02:38] <nickrud> brophat: If you initiate a connection from your computer, your router permits two way communication, it's in a category called ESTABLISHED. You should do some reading on firewalls, that will give you some insight
[02:38] <vrkhans> I am using E17
[02:38] <powergoal> How can I get the knetwork manager to use the LEAP protocol instead of PEAP; TTLS; etc?
[02:38] <ZionPsyfer> vrkhans: How do you like it?
[02:38] <vrkhans> ZionPsyfer, its really cool
[02:38] <roshan> Have tried restricted drivers and envy for my 8600gt and still i get an error from my monitor saying "No input signal go to power save"
[02:38] <Creed> Where does the inode store permissions?
[02:39] <osxdude> Hello
[02:39] <slliness> astro76, where was the picasa 64bit?
[02:39] <brophat> nickrud ok thanks
[02:39] <vrkhans> kitche: how you set your internet setting there
[02:39] <osxdude> My gnome is failing to start.
[02:39] <vrkhans> sometime my internet is not working there.
[02:39] <vrkhans> what should I do
[02:39] <Joelito> anyone know a good alternative to xmms and audacious? More likely gnome-ish
[02:40] <kitche> vrkhans: umm with another program enlightenment e17 doesn't have one that coems along with it
[02:40] <ezpinha> WOW english people
[02:40] <brophat> nickrud that port forward is a program that costs money; isn't there a way I can do it for free?
[02:40] <Jay-Oh-En> whats the best looking terminal? like more for looks
[02:40]  * mneptok stares blankly
[02:40] <Tetracomm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52362/plain/
[02:40] <mneptok> it's ... a terminal
[02:40] <astro76> slliness: hmm not sure, I've seen mention of one, perhaps search for "ubuntu 64bit picasa"
[02:40] <vrkhans> kitche: so wht you do to configure your net over there
[02:40] <ZionPsyfer> osxdude: What video card is in your system?   What do you see when it doesn't start?
[02:41] <Jay-Oh-En> mnemo, lol make it transparent
[02:41] <ezpinha> somebody can help me for a small problem? please
[02:41] <osxdude> Someone help me! My Gnome won't start!
[02:41] <Jay-Oh-En> ezpinha, what is it
[02:41] <jussive> OK, here's a meta-question. What do you do if you have a crippling, rendering-your-installation-completely-useless bug, and you've filed a bug report over a month ago that nobody's even looked at? It's really looking like the answer is "SuSE" here.
[02:41] <osxdude> wait a sec...
[02:41] <sco50000> bkar, thanks
[02:41] <kitche> vrkhans: ifconfig and pppoe-config but myself I just use ifconfig sicne my router configs the net for me
[02:41] <osxdude> ok i'm back
[02:42] <testuser> still no avail
[02:42] <ZionPsyfer> k
[02:42] <osxdude> someone help me
[02:42] <doctordevice> ok, so how do I actually get access to write to someplace outside my home directory?
[02:42] <testuser> where is the speaker configuration switch?
[02:42] <vrkhans> its a file or
[02:42] <th0r> doctordevice use sudo
[02:42] <vrkhans> a utility
[02:42] <kitche> vrkhans: programs
[02:42] <testuser> how do I get ALSA to change to 6 channel output?
[02:42] <ZionPsyfer> osxdude: What type of video card is in your system?  Model number would be golden.  What are you seeing when it won't start.
[02:42] <bkar> doctordevice-> the admin or root has to give your user account  the permission
[02:42] <thingymabob> my server edition is failing to install correctly.  mainly the grub fails to install to "/target/" instead of the / and then it fails to install MBR.  I looked up stuff online and none of that works (namely the looking for the stage1 bit)
[02:42] <vrkhans> so on command prompt just time ifconfig
[02:42] <thingymabob> anybody got any ideas?
[02:43] <osxdude> When I try to logon, all I get is the ubuntu orange screen...eventually a white box appears in the upper left corner
[02:43] <vrkhans> and that will take care of everything
[02:43] <ezpinha> Jay-Oh-En my problem is ... i need a small version of linux for my pc
[02:43] <vrkhans> i have a wireless network
[02:43] <vrkhans> ifconfig or ipconfig
[02:43] <soldats> ezpinha, DSL or puppylinux
[02:43] <Jay-Oh-En> ezpinha, have you tried puppy?
[02:43] <m2rt> ZionPsyfer still no luck. if I reopen the file in gedit then the "EXPORT JRE_HOME=/usr/share/java/" is still there. but with echo it doesnt show up
[02:43]  * osxdude might have to reinstall gnome...
[02:43] <bkar> ezpinha-> look into embedded linux'es too
[02:43] <ZionPsyfer> osxdude: Does the box say anything?   I take it you can see the login prompt ok?
[02:43] <powergoal> Does KUbuntu have support for LEAP built into the knetwork manager?
[02:44] <subcool> i was told earlier i was to make a launcher to link a program.. how do i creat a launcher
[02:44] <ZionPsyfer> m2rt:  Ahhh..  export needs to be all lowercase
[02:44] <m2rt> oh :D
[02:44] <arken_> Hello. What is the name of the program that is like the Mac OS X dock, and how do I install it?
[02:44] <subcool> i know it stupid- im sorry-
[02:44] <vrkhans> do they have any chanel for E17
[02:44] <bastid_raZor> LjL:: how did you know that user was a bot?
[02:44] <mademoisl> can someone help get wireless working? worked before; now stops working; error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A), I tried suggestions I found on internet, no luck, thanks
[02:45] <LjL> bastid_raZor: magic ;)
[02:45] <soldats> vrkhans, #e
[02:45] <bkar> m2rt-> export in small caps
[02:45] <WorkingOnWise> !clone
[02:45] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[02:45] <bastid_raZor> LjL:: what gave it away? ;) i'm not sure what a bot besides ubotu would do?
[02:45] <vrkhans> thanks
[02:45] <LjL> bastid_raZor: they might send private messages to people.
[02:45] <soldats> np
[02:45] <doctordevice> bearing in mind that I'm a total linux noob apart from a number of previous failed attempts to get it working on this system, how do I give write access to my current user account? I know you're not supposed to make your normal account a super-user, but still...
[02:45] <bastid_raZor> LjL:: ahh, yeah i've seen crap like that before.
[02:46] <ezpinha> Jay-Oh-En, no... i use ubuntu, but i have a very old labtop and i want try someting not heavy
[02:46] <adub> how can i update my applications menu
[02:46] <adub> for ubuntu
[02:46] <Jay-Oh-En> ezpinha, oh then try xubuntu
[02:46] <ICQ> re
[02:46] <adub> like to find newly installed programs
[02:46] <Joe_> Hello, I have a question about burning audio CDs with serpentine. I would like to burn at a speed around 10x, but in serpentine the speed goes from 1 to 99, what should I set it to?
[02:46] <ZionPsyfer> ezpinha:  Yep, xubuntu or DSL
[02:46] <HellMind> Is there any peformance improovement by compile your own kernel? Or just improves the load time and useless stuff?
[02:46] <patogen> ok this is weird ... I can't get gnome-panel to be on bottom ... when I try to set it to bottom the option goes right back to to "top"
[02:46] <davidthedrake> doctordevice, you can change the ownership or permissions depending on the file or directory you are trying to write.
[02:46] <jrib> doctordevice: is this the first user that you created during the install?
[02:46] <doctordevice> jrib: it is
[02:46] <bkar> ezpinha-> damn small linux is quite small, 50meg bytes foot print
[02:46] <jrib> !sudo > doctordevice (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:46] <arken_>  Hello. What is the name of the program that is like the Mac OS X dock, and how do I install it?
[02:46] <patogen> same thing after I kill the panel and restart it ...
[02:46] <ezpinha> the "console Comands" is like or almost like ubuntu?
[02:47] <jrib> doctordevice: having said that, what are you specifically trying to accomplish?
[02:47] <thingymabob> my server edition is failing to install correctly.  mainly the grub fails to install to "/target/" instead of the / and then it fails to install MBR.  I looked up stuff online and none of that works (namely the looking for the stage1 bit).  anybody seen this before and know a workaround?
[02:47] <Jay-Oh-En> bkar, i dont think he wants to have a poopy gui
[02:47] <testuser> 6channel sound using alsa, anyone know where the switch is?
[02:47] <bastid_raZor> arken_:: there is one called AWN.. which i use. let me find the package name.
[02:47] <ezpinha> bkar please translate this... because... im portuguese...and i noob in your language. :P:P
[02:47] <bkar> Jay-Oh-En-> for an old laptop, more than adequate
[02:47] <m2rt> ZionPsyfer set the export to low caps but still nothint
[02:47] <Jay-Oh-En> bkar, i guess
[02:47] <roshan> anyone using an 8600?
[02:48] <arken_> GT?
[02:48] <ZionPsyfer> m2rt:  Paste in the whole line if you don't mind.
[02:48] <roshan> arken_: yes
[02:48] <davidthedrake> arken_, AWN is pretty sweet for that.
[02:48] <telephone> hmm... is there anyway i can get the "inverse" output of the 'strings' command or is there another command that will do something similar?
[02:48] <Jay-Oh-En> LjL, why you ban yourself?
[02:48] <bkar> ezpinha->  there is a portuguese channel of ubuntu
[02:48] <arken_> I believe I have a GeForce 8500 GT..
[02:48] <LjL> Jay-Oh-En: testing stuff
[02:48] <doctordevice> jrib: trying to edit settings, first to bind my wireless card to wlan0 so ndiswrapper will work, then to change the wireless driver until I don't need an ethernet cable to get online
[02:48] <Jay-Oh-En> LjL, oh i was just wondering haha
[02:48] <m2rt> ZionPsyfer export JRE_HOME=/usr/share/java/   tried jre_home too. but still no luck
[02:48] <siriusnova> can anyone help me with my dvd playback problem?
[02:48] <HellMind> I ve a gf 8800gt with the nice fan bug
[02:49] <siriusnova> http://eviltentacle.org/media/dvd-problem.txt
[02:49] <bastid_raZor> arken_:: if you're using synaptic do a search for avant then select avant-window-navigator-bzr awn-core-applets-bzr and then it'll add a few more dependencies
[02:49] <ezpinha> bkar because in the portuguese channel have some stupid people...
[02:49] <ZionPsyfer> m2rt: Have you been testing by opening up a new terminal?
[02:49] <levander> Are we just supposed to use the Windows ext2 driver to access ext3 partitions from Windows?
[02:49] <siriusnova> ^^ log of mplayer, it just shows a green screen, as well as Totem etc..
[02:49] <Jay-Oh-En> siriusnova, what happens when you try to play a dvd
[02:49] <roshan> problem is, i've tried both envy and the restricted drivers and still my monitor pops up with an error message after the loading screen
[02:49] <jrib> doctordevice: k, well if you are sure you need to use ndiswrapper, use sudo to edit any system files you need
[02:49] <Joe_> Hello, I have a question about burning audio CDs with serpentine. I would like to burn at a speed around 10x, but in serpentine the speed goes from 1 to 99, what should I set it to?
[02:49] <bkar> ezpinha-> oh come, they are just ubuntu challenged, not es tu pi do
[02:49] <ezpinha> bkar like... if you want ...search in google.com
[02:49] <siriusnova> http://eviltentacle.org/media/dvd-problem.txt <----- Problem
[02:49] <LeChacal> is there an easier to use text editor then vi for the terminal on a machine that doesn't have a GUI?
[02:49] <jrib> LeChacal: nano
[02:50] <davidthedrake> LeChacal, or pico
[02:50] <Jay-Oh-En> siriusnova, im not really good with media
[02:50] <brophat> I use a dsl router; does ifconfig give me the ip address of this router?
[02:50] <m2rt> ZionPsyfer yes new terminal
[02:50] <bkar> ezpinha-> sometimes you have to be told to do some legwork and use google, do not rely heavily to be spoon feed here or there
[02:50] <arken_> bastid_raZor: I searched for avant, nothing like what you said popped up.
[02:50] <Bagualas> anyone knows how to put a password on open thunderbird? if is there any plugin or conf?
[02:50] <doctordevice> jrib: I've never been able to make hostap or orinoco_pci (the two drivers that are said to work with my wireless card) work
[02:50] <LeChacal> thanks
[02:50] <jrib> davidthedrake: which is just a symlink to nano on ubuntu :)
[02:50] <bastid_raZor> arken_:: do you have all the repositories enabled?
[02:50] <davidthedrake> arken_, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-avant-window-navigator-awn-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[02:50] <jrib> !wireless > doctordevice (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:50] <bkar> brophat->  nope
[02:50] <bastid_raZor> arken_:: oh wait.. you have to add a repo .. i think
[02:50] <davidthedrake> jrib, is it really? Ha... nice.
[02:51] <Creed> Where does the inode store permissions?
[02:51] <Jay-Oh-En> bkar, why dont you just help him
[02:51] <jrib> doctordevice: those docs are usually pretty good.   I don't know anything about wireless though
[02:51] <Jay-Oh-En> !dvd
[02:51] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:51] <davidthedrake> jrib, wasn't aware of that. You learn something new everyday.
[02:51] <brophat> bkar so how can I find out the ip address of my dsl router?
[02:51] <bkar> Jay-Oh-En-> i dont know what the issue is yet,
[02:51] <ZionPsyfer> m2rt: Well then, if it's going to be a pain then let's do this.  Copy that line, and paste into a terminal and hit enter.  Make sure it's kosher by doing the echo $JRE_HOME.  If it works, then do a 'gedit ~/.bashrc' and paste in at the end and save.
[02:51] <bkar> brophat-> are you connected to  it yet?
[02:51] <bastid_raZor> arken_:: the link davidthedrake gave you will tell you what to do .. sorry i forgot you had to add some repo's
[02:51] <brophat> bkar yes I am connected to it
[02:51] <Omegacenti> For some reason, I cannot rename files on my desktop, like, there is no karat on the file name, it highlights the name to be renamed, I just can't type anything into the rename box
[02:52] <slashzul> hi guys
[02:52] <bkar> brophat what is your ip address on your pc? i'll guess your router's ip address
[02:52] <Jay-Oh-En> !dvd > siriusnova
[02:52] <slashzul> where can i find the old unix "strings" package?
[02:52] <siriusnova> Jay - did that already
[02:52] <siriusnova> it doesn't work
[02:52] <slashzul> thought it was in all ubuntu unix os's
[02:52] <brophat> bkar 192.168.1.65
[02:52] <kitche> slashzul: old? strings is part of ubuntu
[02:53] <bkar> brophat-> most likely your router will be 192.168.1.1 , ping this ip address to confirm
[02:53] <davidthedrake> Yea... AWN is pretty much the pwn.
[02:53] <slliness> hey is there a live cd of ubuntu for ps3? and where?
[02:53] <ezpinha> bkar you right, but... is rarely i use this chat... and if you need help, and somebody say go to the google... god...
[02:53] <Jay-Oh-En> siriusnova, hmm well im not sure then usually when my friends have problems with that i just follows those steps and it works siriusnova are you sure you read all the way
[02:53] <siriusnova> yep
[02:53] <jtt> slashzul part of binutils
[02:54] <brophat> bkar ping says that ip address is unreachable
[02:54] <bkar> ezpinha-> but do not complain other people are stupid, they just may be busy at the moment, be patient
[02:54] <Jay-Oh-En> siriusnova, ill look up your problem
[02:54] <Omegacenti> For some reason, I cannot rename files on my desktop, like, there is no karat on the file name, it highlights the name to be renamed, I just can't type anything into the rename box
[02:54] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[02:54] <telephone> speaking of strings.. is there anyway i can get the "inverse" output of the 'strings' command or is there another command that will do something similar? :)
[02:54] <brophat> bkar guess again hahaha
[02:54] <bkar> brophat 191.168.1.254
[02:54] <slashzul> locate strings | locate: /var/locatedb no such file
[02:55] <misslecommander> Omegamecenti : right click choose properties and change name
[02:55] <CarlFK>  what's the .deb that installs postgresql?  (apt-cache search returns about 1000 hits...)
[02:55] <Jay-Oh-En> siriusnova, try installing vlc "sudo apt-get install vlc" then see if that works if it does i have a few other things up my sleeve
[02:55] <bkar> brophat if not that, return your router back to the vendor..hehehe
[02:55] <slliness> hey is there a live cd of ubuntu for ps3? and where?
[02:55] <testuser> finally....I found it....http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/SurroundSound
[02:55] <siriusnova> Jay - did that already
[02:55] <siriusnova> it goes green with vlc, mplayer and xine
[02:55] <m2rt> ZionPsyfer you are the man!!!! it worked!!! many thanks!!! in windows I would have been yelled at.. thanks !!! take care
[02:55] <siriusnova> it just gives me a blank green screen
[02:55] <testuser> for those of you with similar questions
[02:55] <Jay-Oh-En> siriusnova, ok hold on
[02:56] <ZionPsyfer> m2rt: Glad we got it going!  Have a good one. =)
[02:56] <slliness> sorry for reposting but channel moves so fast
[02:56] <brophat> bkar ping is hanging
[02:56] <danbhfive> brophat try 'route'
[02:56] <bkar> ezpinha-> what is the problem you have? lets resolve it
[02:56] <bkar> brophat hangs?  can you pastebin your  route -n results please
[02:56] <robdig> slashzul: should be in /usr/bin. before you can use locate, you have to run updatedb
[02:57] <arken_> Ok. I installed AWN, but nothing happens when I execute it.
[02:57] <slashzul> where can i find the old unix "strings" package?
[02:57] <brophat> bkar is that pastebin.net ?
[02:57] <DG19075> !pt|ezpinha
[02:57] <ubotu> ezpinha: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[02:57] <slashzul> its not a default install package
[02:57] <bkar> brophat-> whichever is convenient pastebin site
[02:57] <slashzul> i installed 7.10 server
[02:57] <osxdude> i'm having problems with gnome, so I will be gone a while.
[02:57] <mademoisl> hi, i have wireless connection with    Microsoft Windows XP, in Ubuntu i can't connect to the exact same network, i get "no default gateway", what can i do ?
[02:57] <ayah> hi, we upgraded our OOo on Feisty to from 2.2 to 2.3, but we haven't able to get the quickstarter work again, any help please
[02:57] <ezpinha> bkar  you tink 32mb of ram, a 3gb in hard drive and a PentiumMMX 133Mhz will work with slackware?
[02:58] <ezpinha> DG19075 :P
[02:58] <Jay-Oh-En> siriusnova, did you install gstreamer extra plugins
[02:58] <soldats> ezpinha, should work
[02:58] <Omegacenti> For some reason, I cannot rename files on my desktop, like, there is no karat on the file name, it highlights the name to be renamed, I just can't type anything into the rename box
[02:58] <bkar> ezpinha-> i am not familiar with slackware, but if i have to guess, its possible,
[02:58] <arken_> Ok. I installed AWN, but nothing happens when I execute it.
[02:58]  * Jay-Oh-En has to leave :[ brb
[02:58] <davidthedrake> arken_, You have to run AWN before you run the manager.
[02:58] <unagi> anyone know why ignore on pidgin doest work
[02:58] <brophat> bkar http://pastebin.com/m3a8ab883
[02:58] <robdig> slashzul: sudo apt-get install binutils
[02:58] <Omegacenti> Anyone?
[02:59] <ezpinha> Nice... Tanks
[02:59] <arken_> Then how do I "run it"
[02:59] <soldats> unagi, did the plugins not work
[02:59] <jtt> Omegacenti, run sudo rename in a terminal window see if it works
[02:59] <unagi> well i installed them but i dont know what im suppose to do after i enable it
[02:59] <davidthedrake> arken_, try ALT+F2, then enter: avant-window-navigator &
[02:59] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl: Are you associating with the AP?  Are you getting an ip address?
[02:59] <bastid_raZor> arken_:: i created a launcher and put it in the top toolbar..
[02:59] <brophat> bkar found it
[02:59] <davidthedrake> You also might wanna hide your bottom bar
[02:59] <Omegacenti> jtt: It doesn't seem to be a rename problem.
[02:59] <bkar> brophat-> per your paste, its 192.168.1.254 but it hangs? what exactly kind of message you get?
[02:59] <roshan> could someone please help me with my 8600gt
[02:59] <bastid_raZor> arken_:: and yes i did get rid of my bottom toolbar after i had avant up and running
[02:59] <bkar> brophat-> you have found it? way cool
[02:59] <arken_> It blinks in the top right corner and then nothing happens.
[03:00] <Omegacenti> jtt: I think it is because I recently started using SCIM.
[03:00] <brophat> bkar it does not matter anymore because I got my router webpage up
[03:00] <brophat> i can try ping again though
[03:00] <jtt> omega what is scim
[03:00] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer i thik so, how can i check that ?
[03:00] <DG19075> Is there an IRC channel to discuss GNOME themes? I have a theme that I  want to run with Creamy Classic controls, but the window bar cumes up charcoal grey sted light brown...
[03:00] <bkar> brophat-> which brand of AP you use?
[03:00] <brophat> bkar ping is now giving me results, what is AP?
[03:00] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl: You know how to get into your routers configuration webpage?  Are you able to do so?
[03:01] <MKNAOMI> :]
[03:01] <bkar> brophat access point sometimes its multi function access point/router/hub/switch
[03:01] <brophat> bkar i just have a 2wire router
[03:01] <Omegacenti> jtt: Easier to identify if someone has said something to me if you just autocomplete my name, it is the application needed to enter different inputs such as japanese characters.
[03:01] <brophat> bkar wireless router
[03:01] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer, no, the router is someone else's, i have no acces to it
[03:02] <bkar> brophat but it is also functioning are your access point..
[03:02] <danbhfive> Omegacenti: hey cool, pidgin has autocomplete, thanks for pointing that out!!!
[03:02] <Omegacenti> no problem danbhfive :)
[03:02] <bkar> brophat att and or yahoo uses 2wire wireless ap/router/hub
[03:02] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl: Alright, try this:  bring up a terminal and type:  ifconfig
[03:02] <jtt> Omegacenti, are you trying to rename a file in japanese?
[03:02] <twiztr> I'm trying to OC  my AMD 2.4ghz chip. In the BIOS, it shows 200MHz with a 12 multiplyer.
[03:02] <brophat> bkar yeah I am on ATT
[03:02] <emet> anyone here have an EEE PC ?
[03:02] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer i also get SET failed on device ath0 ; invalid argument....ok
[03:03] <Omegacenti> jtt: no. However, I have need of both english inputs and japanese inputs.
[03:03] <twiztr> I changed it to 270MHz and kept the 12 multiplier.
[03:03] <brophat> bkar but everything is ok now
[03:03] <bkar> brophat okay way cool
[03:03] <brophat> I can ping it, and i got the router setup webpage up
[03:03] <brophat> bkar yeah, one less thing to be confused about
[03:03] <twiztr> so ti should be 3.24 or w/e, but it still shows in my os as 2.4 ghz
[03:03] <Heygabe> ??
[03:03] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfe ok ifconfig gives wifi0, (no ath0 there)
[03:03] <jtt> omega
[03:04] <Omegacenti> jtt: I am going to try and follow htis bug report guide, the only reason I am hesitant on it is it seems to be for a slightly older distro
[03:04] <brophat> bkar thanks for the help
[03:04] <bkar> brophat dont worry about sharing your ap with your neighbors, they will be happy you are sharing
[03:04] <jtt> Omegacenti, then i still say try renaming the file in  terminal window to see if it works
[03:04] <twiztr> Is it still OCed, even wif ti doesnt say so
[03:04] <Omegacenti> jtt: It works, just not on the desktop
[03:04] <brophat> bkar i think my ap has a password on it no?
[03:04] <bkar> brophat np, btw my neighbor and I share an ap.. no problem
[03:04] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl: Is there an ip address for the wifi0?  it should say something like 'inet addr:192.168.0.2' or something similar.
[03:05] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfe sorry i DO have an entry ath0 in ifconfig
[03:05] <bkar> brophat normally it has to access att yes.
[03:05] <brophat> i guess i don't care how used it as long as it does not slow me down
[03:05] <jtt> Omegacenti, ok cant help you there
[03:05] <misslecommander> comes up as wlan0 on mine, with ip addy of 192.168.x.x
[03:05] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer wifi0 has only HWaddr
[03:06] <ConstyXIV> is there a way in xchat-gnome to connect to 2+ servers at once?
[03:06] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer so does ath0
[03:06] <ZionPsyfer> nice, thanks misslecommander. =)  That helps.
[03:06] <levander> Is there a UI for managing which services run in which runlevel? Or do Ubuntu people just modify the script names in /etc/init.d?
[03:06] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer had alot of practice :)
[03:07] <anderswc> does anyone know if a precompiled version of PHP exists for Ubuntu?
[03:07] <misslecommander> Consty : you can type something like  "/join #anotherchannel" without quotes of course
[03:07] <jrib> levander: sysv-rc-conf is one I know of
[03:07] <ConstyXIV> misslecommander: server, not channel
[03:07] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl: Hmmmm, alright.  Let's try this.  In your top panel, bring up the network manager under the System ->Administration->Network menus.
[03:07] <levander> jrib: cool, i'll look into it
[03:07] <adub> in my applications menu my add/remove button i accidently deleted it from the edit menus option
[03:07] <adub> where is that program at so i can get it back
[03:08] <adub> like if i go to add new
[03:08] <ConstyXIV> if i type /server foo.bar.net, it disconnects me from bar.foo.net
[03:08] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer can i start that from the commandline? i am on fluxbox
[03:08] <misslecommander> ConstyXIV : on the windows version i can, i dont see it on the linux version
[03:08] <soldats> ConstyXIV, what are you using for irc
[03:08] <moidekar> levander, Boot-Up Manager is a graphical tool to allow easy configuration of init services in user and system runlevels, as far as changing Start/Stop services priority.
[03:08] <ConstyXIV> soldats: xchat (gnome)
[03:08] <moidekar> levander, the package is called "bum"
[03:08] <soldats> ConstyXIV, do you have two seperate server tabs
[03:09] <misslecommander> ConstyXIV : type "/help" list of commands
[03:09] <levander> moidekar: okay, now i have no idea which to use...
[03:09] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer ok, i opened system> administration> networking
[03:09] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl: Yep, 'gksu network-admin'
[03:09] <jrib> levander: what are you trying to accomplish?
[03:09] <moidekar> levander, it's probably as easy as using synaptic to install both, then try out and see which you prefer :-) FOSS has a lot of choices :-)
[03:09] <misslecommander> i dont know if them commands are for this server or the xchat program
[03:10] <anderswc> can anyone tell me if a precompiled php package exists?
[03:10] <jrib> anderswc: yes
[03:10] <anderswc> what's it called?
[03:10] <jrib> !lamp > anderswc (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:10] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl: Alright, is the wireless card enabled ( it should have a check in the checkbox next to it).  If it does, click on it, and click the Properties button
[03:10] <jrib> !info php5 | anderswc
[03:10] <ubotu> anderswc: php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.3-1ubuntu6.3 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
[03:11] <levander> moidekar: Yeah, okay.  Thanks.
[03:11] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer it is not enabled here, but i nust say that it worked fine before, i used "wlassistant"
[03:11] <mboman> Where are the wireless passwords stored?
[03:11] <levander> jrib: Search up for what I'm trying to accomplish.
[03:11] <misslecommander> yes, Zion, by default mine was unchecked, so the wifi card wasnt enabled. not sure all systems start out like that, but, mine did
[03:12] <jrib> levander: I meant: "be more specific"
[03:12] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl: heh, maybe wlanassistant disabled it?  I'm only guessing here.  But try enabling it and going into it's properties.
[03:12] <adub> on my applications menu in ubuntu i accidently deleted the add/remove programs option at the bottom of the menu
[03:12] <adub> how can i get that option back
[03:12] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer ok in there now...
[03:12] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander: Yep, mine did as well. My system shows it as eth1 too though, so it's definitely different than other setups.
[03:12] <anderswc> jrib, does LAMP install on 7.10 the same as 7.04?
[03:12] <aoirthoir> hey whats the deal with automatix..is that something folks do or dont want us to install?
[03:13] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl: Is roaming mode disabled?  I've had problems associating with APs with it enabled.
[03:13] <jrib> anderswc: yes, probably
[03:13] <robdig> adub: system->preferences->main menu
[03:13] <anderswc> ok
[03:13] <LjL> !automatix > aoirthoir    (aoirthoir, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:13] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer how do i see that ?
[03:13] <misslecommander> wlan0 it will say something like enabling device or something close, once you set the ssid and passphrase
[03:13] <jtt> adub right mouse click on  applications menu will appear it will be evident how to readd it
[03:14] <adub> no like it is deleted out of that menu
[03:14] <aoirthoir> ljl thats what I thought ok
[03:14] <adub> you see
[03:14] <adub> when i bring up applications menu i right clicked and deleted it from even there
[03:14] <adub> so like now it is gone
[03:14] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl: At the top of my preferences box that opens up, there is a checkbox for roaming mode.  I can also select the SSID to connect to and whether to use DHCP/static ip.  You'll probably want DHCP, and you'll pick your SSID .
[03:14] <jtt> adub out of the main menu that appears with all the choices?
[03:15] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer : roaming will connect to the strongest signal, so 95% of the time that will work, but if there is a passphrase set, it will likely not work
[03:15] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer i dont have a setting for roaming mode in network-admin
[03:16] <Owleto> ConstyXIV: I'm fine with X-chat (a multiplatform IRC Client)... not the gnome version. Amirc style...
[03:16] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander: Good to know!  Mine never worked for me.
[03:16] <KB2HSH-2> Wireless?
[03:16] <adub> jtt no luck man its not in that menu in the edit menu
[03:16] <adub> i accidently right clicked and deleted it from there by accident
[03:16] <roshan_> can anyone point me a good source for graphics card problems. recently i tried installing the restricted drivers. After the installation, i rebooted. Then right after the loading screen, my monitor went blank and the error message "No input signal go to power save"
[03:16] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl: It won't show up in network-admin.  Left click on your wireless card in the list of cards in network-admin, then click on the Properties button.  That will bring up the window I'm tlaking about.
[03:16] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer : i thought mine wasnt working, till i seen what it was doing, nevermind being disabled from the start, i thought maybe the driver was bad
[03:17] <KB2HSH-2> My Belkin USB wireless works 100%
[03:17] <soldats> roshan_, could it be that your monitor frewuencies arent correc
[03:17] <soldats> +t
[03:17] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer i meqnt that window, no roaming mode entry there
[03:17] <jtt> adub that entry is somewhere in the  .gnome2 or .metacity etc.
[03:17] <Darkmystere> Howq do u find out the Server Address for ur channle in IRC Using Ubuntu>?
[03:17] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer : i dont use the regular Network Manager now, i use Knetwork Manager, its somewhat easier to look at, but, you have to edit files for it to work right
[03:17] <corinth> !flash
[03:17] <jtt> adub not sure where is that the only ubuntu installation you have
[03:17] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:17] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[03:18] <roshan_> soldats: i would get an out of range error then
[03:18] <adub> jtt it is
[03:18] <soldats> roshan_, 0o i misread
[03:18] <misslecommander> i found that i had to stop the regular NetMan and run only one at a time, running both was horrible
[03:18] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl: Do you see the other settings?  The spot to pick your ESSID, Password Type, Network Password, etc?
[03:18] <roshan_> soldats: np, thx anyway :D
[03:18] <mademoisl> yes essid and pass
[03:18] <adub> jtt heck its not needed i guess
[03:18] <adub> i never really use it anyway
[03:18] <jtt> adub i was going to tell you to search the  dot directorys if you had another ubuntu
[03:19] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander: hehe yes, but that bit us earlier. ;)  At least I think it was what bit us.
[03:19] <jtt> adub not that important most of the time
[03:19] <Darkmystere> Does Anyone Know?
[03:19] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl: Alright, if you click on the ESSID, does it bring up a list of wireless networks near you?
[03:19] <brophat> bkar I set up my port forwarding; you wanna tell me if you can get to my webpage?
[03:19] <corinth> Is there a way to set different wallpapers for dual monitors in Ubuntu Gutsy?
[03:19] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer : yes it bit me hard, but i figured out why they both didnt work together, now this one works way better than the regular NetMan, just cant have both running
[03:20] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer no
[03:20] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer : i am new to linux, but not new to internetworking, but as far as linux is concerned, you will likely find much more accurate/detailed info from the vetrans of linux
[03:20] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer wlassistant does see several wireless connecions though
[03:22] <bkar> brophat pretty pix i can see?
[03:22] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl:  is this similar to what you're seeing?  http://zionpsyfer.com/wirelessnetworksetup.png
[03:22] <brophat> bkar not yet
[03:22] <brophat> it is just a test page hahahaha
[03:22] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer yes
[03:22] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer : how long you been using linux ?
[03:23] <bkar> brophat okay beautiful ladies will do..hehe
[03:23] <mademoisl> but without the "enable roaming mode"
[03:23] <brophat> bkar go to http://192.168.1.65/
[03:23] <ayah>  hi, we upgraded our OOo on Feisty to from 2.2 to 2.3, but we haven't able to get the quickstarter work again, any help please?
[03:23] <brophat> tell me if it is workig
[03:23] <bkar> brophat-> that not routable from the internet..cant hit that
[03:23] <brophat> bkar what do you mean?
[03:23] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander:  About nine years now.  Not exclusively though.  And my wireless coverage is spotty.  I am ashamed to say I haven't read most of the documentation.  Most of it is from experimenting. >.<
[03:24] <misslecommander> mademois : romaing mode doesnt work for me for some reason.
[03:24] <bkar> brophat try and get to my webserver at 192.168.10.25 and see how far you get
[03:25] <nemo> I'm trying to find any bugs related to ALSA in Ubuntu Gutsy all of a sudden causing any app that tries to use it, to hang.
[03:25] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer : i will pastebin the interfaces file i use, to allow for Knetworking to be used, if you like. you do have to stop the Network Manager that comes default from starting up on login though.
[03:25] <nemo> poking around launchpad, but kinda tricky
[03:25] <brophat> bkar then how do I serve up web pages from my puter?
[03:25] <nemo> intel soundcard, and would also be interested in any alsa config reset info folks here might have
[03:25] <wease|> hello folks
[03:25] <nemo> people in this channel have been rather helpful in past with ubuntu reconfig
[03:25] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl: And if you click on the arrow to the right of the Network Name, does it bring up anything at all?
[03:25] <wenbo> If Linux Isn't Successful, Why Is Everybody Talking About It?
[03:26] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander:  Is it the same one you gave me earlier in pastebin?
[03:26] <bkar> brophat carefully, you have to do NAT'ing and port forwarding
[03:26] <nemo> applications hanging are, for example, mplayer in ao2_init - mplayer -ao oss  works fine
[03:26] <the_sparky> can someone help me?  I need help installing ClamAV to ubuntu
[03:26] <j1solutions> whos says it isn't successful, wenbro?
[03:26] <mademoisl> no, nothing
[03:26] <brophat> bkar I just did the port forwarding
[03:26] <j1solutions> sure the_sparky
[03:26] <wenbo> If Linux Isn't Successful, Why Is Everybody Talking About It?
[03:26] <bkar> brophat read my last statement.. :)
[03:26] <j1solutions> did you try synaptic, search for clamav
[03:26] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer, it may be included, as i was changing things. i will post a new one, with a reference URL to the site i got the info from
[03:26] <the_sparky> I have like 0 idea to really use ubuntu though
[03:27] <soldats> wenbo, dont troll
[03:27] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer sorry, I'm giving up, several hours now this is getting me nowhere; on Windows it just works, so thats what i will use, thanks anyway, bye
[03:27] <genii> wenbo: Do you have some tech support problem or just here to annoy us?
[03:27] <nemo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/145747  <- perhaps this is my issue
[03:27] <nemo> same sound card
[03:27] <Omegacenti> I need to compile and run java for a class that requires it be compiled in java. which packages should I install in ubuntu for this to work out okay?
[03:27] <nemo> unfortunately, this person has no solution
[03:27] <GuyFromHell> any recommended method for eclipse 3.3 installation?
[03:27] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl: K, it sounds like the network manager is giving you the problems.  misslecommander had good luck with Knetworking manager.  He can help you with that if you want to give it a shot.
[03:27] <brophat> bkar you said you have to do NAT'ing and port fowarding. I dunno what NAT'ing is
[03:27] <misslecommander> oh yes, there is a difference than the one i first posted
[03:27] <danbhfive> brophat: http://www.showmyip.com/
[03:27] <j1solutions> the_sparky: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:27] <nemo> hm. maybe not same soundcard
[03:27] <the_sparky> jlsolutions: 7.10
[03:27] <nemo> but identical symptoms anyway
[03:27] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander: Ahh, I'd be interested in taking a peek then. =)
[03:28] <brophat> I don't get it,  I used to serve up webpages all the time
[03:28] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer : yes it was, but i found it was because i was running bothe Knet and Netman
[03:28] <nemo> and is also intel
[03:28] <bkar> brophat thats network port and address translation..you have to read up on it via google
[03:28] <misslecommander> ok
[03:28] <adub> i have these two little bars that show up on the lower right hand screen of my laptop
[03:28] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander: Yep, I remember.  I was MCSbreaker. ;)
[03:28] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer: to install Knetworking manager i need to be connected to the internet with ubuntu dont i ?
[03:28] <BloodyScum> does the linux version of truecrypt have a GUI?
[03:28] <adub> now if i reboot these two little bars go away
[03:28] <Omegacenti> I need to compile and run java for a class that requires it be compiled in java. which packages should I install in ubuntu for this to work out okay?
[03:28] <j1solutions> the_sparky: System > Administration > Synaptic package manager
[03:28] <bkar> brophat you can still serve web pages, just not easily accessable from the wild internet side
[03:28] <adub> but eventually will come back i thought it had to do something with my themes but i switch themes and still does same thing
[03:28] <desertc> mademoisl: If you are having trouble getting the software working on your Windows machine, then perhaps you will consider purchasing a computer with Ubuntu preinstalled from a vendor who will support the operating system.
[03:28] <corinth> Is totem-xine better than the gstreamer version?
[03:28] <adub> bar code looking bars
[03:29] <brophat> bkar so things have changed?
[03:29] <chewd> hi guys
[03:29] <desertc> mademoisl: ...when you choose to buy your next computer.
[03:29] <chewd> anybody know why ubuntu isnt retaining my desktop settings?
[03:29] <genii> corinth: Of my own experience I would say yes
[03:29] <VanDyke> ok so using ubuntu live cd, when I install the nvidia driver it asks for a bloody reboot,
[03:29] <the_sparky> jlsolutions:  ok in that
[03:29] <VanDyke> bloody hell
[03:29] <corinth> genii: Why?
[03:29] <j1solutions> put clamav in the search box
[03:29] <brophat> bkar if the webpages are not easily accessible then what is the point?
[03:29] <Omegacenti> I need to compile and run java for a class that requires it be compiled in java. which packages should I install in ubuntu for this to work out okay?
[03:29] <nemo> identical freeze point in mplayer
[03:29] <chewd> i spent hours last night getting dual-head to work.. finally got it working... & now its back to defaults
[03:30] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl: it might be on the Cd.  tell you what, give me a minute to go through the docs for wlassistant.  I'll see what I can see.
[03:30] <anderswc> how do I find my computer's ip in the terminal?
[03:30] <desertc> corinth: gstreamer is more supported with the other ubuntu default applications
[03:30] <wease|> omega. i cant make most java-based prggies work with java 6.0
[03:30] <BloodyScum> VanDyke i think the nvidia driver is a not open source, and that said ubuntu annot make a live version..
[03:30] <wease|> most accept 5.7
[03:30] <j1solutions> anserswc: ifconfig
[03:30] <mademoisl> desertc, thanks for the advice, but ive been using linux for a long time already, its been fun messing around with it, getting stuff to work, but time after time NEW problems show up, i think its better to return to a system that just works, so i can do something more useful
[03:30] <soldats> anderswc, ipconfig
[03:30] <VanDyke> it is not open source
[03:30] <bkar> brophat eh people to weird stuff, people do things they like to do, but not necessarily easy access for everyone
[03:30] <nano__> I need help, can't connect to the internet
[03:30] <VanDyke> it is restricted module
[03:30] <genii> corinth: The codecs for gstreamer are more convoluted to get installed right for instance, and xine has just been overall less of a headache
[03:30] <chewd> is it possible that my xorg.conf got write protected?
[03:31] <the_sparky> jlslutions: nothing came up
[03:31] <VanDyke> but gosh, that option shouldnt even be there then
[03:31] <brophat> bkar about a year ago I had an apache server going on my puter, and the access log had tons of hits
[03:31] <brophat> bkar so I don't get it
[03:31] <j1solutions> system > administration > software sources
[03:31]  * soldats has to scroll up now
[03:31] <soldats> :)
[03:31] <Omegacenti> wease|: much easier to find out someone has talked to me if they autocomplete my name using tab. Now, I am sorry but I don't understand what you mean
[03:31] <Omegacenti> I need to compile and run java for a class that requires it be compiled in java. which packages should I install in ubuntu for this to work out okay?
[03:31] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer ok, ill wait a momet kind of you, but i will have to get some sleep soon too...
[03:31] <j1solutions> add more repositories by checking off the boxes
[03:31] <robdig> Omegacenti: try gcj
[03:31] <corinth> genii: Thanks.
[03:32] <j1solutions> then try again, after 'reload' in synaptick
[03:32] <soldats> chewd, is it possible that in your desktop settings the save setting box isnt checked
[03:32] <wenbo> i think bsd is better than linux.
[03:32] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer *moment
[03:32] <ZionPsyfer> mademoisl: Understandable. I'll be as quick as I can so you can go get some sleep. =)
[03:32] <genii> corinth: Others may have other views, but I can only speak from my own experience
[03:32] <maryluz> #Amig@s Doble click
[03:32] <soldats> wenbo, this is a support channel for ubuntu only
[03:32] <chewd> soldat: would that be in screen & graphics?
[03:32]  * Darkmystere kills over when he notices his bot has joined his channel
[03:32] <chewd> i dont see a save setting
[03:32] <wenbo> i think bsd is better than linux,bsd only! no linux!
[03:33] <brophat> bkar so you tried my webpage and it did not load?
[03:33] <bkar> brophat is your puter that hosted apache have an ip address that is routable? not like 192.x.x or 172.x.x or 10.x.x.x ?
[03:33] <soldats> chewd, maybe either there or in desktop preferences
[03:33] <mneptok> maryluz: please save the channel spam for people who care.
[03:33] <wenbo> bsd !  bsd only!
[03:33] <soldats> !ops | wenbo
[03:33] <ubotu> wenbo: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[03:33] <ubuntujay123> hi all how is ti going tonight in here
[03:33] <bkar> brophat no use for me to hit that, i have to hit your external ip address to get to your internal..assuming your router did its job properly
[03:33]  * techno_freak starts his day
[03:34] <the_sparky> ok now it has things
[03:34] <danbhfive> brophat: I can help you i think, just use my name to ask, I'm running a website myself
[03:34] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander: Ahhh, wlassistant is kde.  mademoisl may be having the same issues.
[03:34] <chewd> hold on brb....
[03:34] <Gorgoroth_72> Hi, is there anyoen who know how i should do to get a Soundblaster x-fi extreme gamer to work under linux?
[03:34] <wease|> omegacenti. there i completed it. java 6.0 is the latest java and it does not work well with most apps in ubuntu 7.10. i.e. 3rd party apps
[03:34] <bkar> !java > Omegacenti
[03:34] <brophat> danbhfive I don't understand I used to always run a web server from my puter, never had problems
[03:34] <Patrickva> Sup guyz?
[03:35] <soldats> chewd, let me know
[03:35] <Shuggle> Does anyone know what would be the best virtual machine/emulator for running server appliances?
[03:35] <mademoisl> ZionPsyfer ok, thanks for trying to help, but I have to go, good night
[03:35] <brophat> bkar my ip address should be good enough no?
[03:35] <ubuntujay123> get java 6.0 off java site and install it
[03:35] <soldats> !hi | Patrickva
[03:35] <ubotu> Patrickva: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:35] <danbhfive> brophat: goto this website: http://whatismyipaddress.com/
[03:35] <ubuntujay123> it works better that way
[03:35] <ZionPsyfer> gah
[03:35] <Omegacenti> Are sun-java5-jdk and sun-java6-jdk to be installed at the same time? Will these have javac?
[03:35] <bkar> brophat I tried to explain to you, 192.168.x.x is not routable within the internet, your ISP should dis allow it
[03:35] <wease|> java 6.0 is not good with 3rd party apps
[03:35] <BloodyScum> does anyone in here use true crypt, if so does it have a gui?
[03:35] <Omegacenti> bkar: that is for the runtime/interpreter, not the compiler, thanks though
[03:35] <scuizi> Shuggle: I use vmware
[03:36] <danbhfive> brophat: then tell me the ip it lists there
[03:36] <maryluz> #Amig@s
[03:36] <bkar> brophat your ip address given to you by you ISP is good, but it has to be translated or NAT'ed by your router
[03:36] <nano__> I need help, can't connect to the internet ... driver is installed......
[03:36] <the_sparky> jlsolutions: ok some things we found
[03:36] <Nik_> i need help recovering my hard drive, is this the place?
[03:36] <wenbo> how can i get p2p program in ubuntu???
[03:36] <wease|> use java 5.7
[03:36] <Omegacenti> wease|: I am going to have to assume that since java is platform independent, that maybe a bug affected your experience.
[03:36] <scuizi> !p2p | wenbo
[03:36] <ubotu> wenbo: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[03:36] <bkar> Omegacenti-> the link did not say anything about jdk?  try again reading the link
[03:36] <wenbo> thinks
[03:36] <brophat> danbhfive 74.186.120.21
[03:37] <wenbo> thanks
[03:37] <adub> how can i change screen resolutions
[03:37] <Gorgoroth_72> Hi, is there anyone who know how i should do to get a Soundblaster x-fi extreme gamer to work under linux?
[03:37] <nano__> I need help, can't connect to the internet ... driver is installed......
[03:37] <Shuggle> scuizi: I though vmware only came free in the player edition?
[03:37] <soldats> adub, whats wrong with it
[03:38] <adub> soldats wel i changed theme and i dont get the bars on the right hand side of the screen
[03:38] <bkar> nano_-> you're the same guy with same problem as the other day?
[03:38] <neeto> I was installing emerald and I ran into some problems, but it left me with no window deocrations and I can't move or close anything. Can someone tell me how to re-enable xfce?
[03:38] <adub> plus i was just curious
[03:38] <adub> i would like to go to 1280x800
[03:38] <danbhfive> brophat: its not working, you probably dont have port forwarding working correctly, or at least you aren't forwarding port 80
[03:38] <adub> on my laptop i like that res
[03:38] <scuizi> Shuggle: nope.. you can go directly to their site and get the server version.. I prefer that to player when running a vm on a desktop or server.
[03:38] <nano__> bkar: yes but that was 6.06, i have 7.10 now
[03:38] <Nik_> I need help  recovering a hard drive, the hard drive shows up in gparted, but not in the terminal
[03:38] <bkar> nano_-> and you seem to just leave without saying yey or nay if it worked
[03:38] <brophat> danbhfive I do
[03:38] <Shuggle> scuizi: thanks.
[03:38] <bkar> danbhfive-> he also has to do NAT'ing
[03:38] <brophat> danbhfive I just set it up
[03:39] <scuizi> Shuggle: you'll need to make sure you install build-essential for the install.. it does some compiling on itself .. easy stuff.
[03:39] <wenbo> where can we get wallpaper for ubuntu ?
[03:39] <brophat> maybe I need to reboot?
[03:39] <danbhfive> bkar: 192.168.x.x is NAT
[03:39] <nano__> bkar: didnt mean to
[03:39] <ZionPsyfer> wenbo: gnome-look.org has some goodies.
[03:39] <soldats> adub, you can try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in termianl and use the space bar to select the correct resolutions. just make sure you make everything elsae default
[03:39] <danbhfive> bkar: at least thats what I thought
[03:39] <bkar> danbhfive-> he has not set it up yet on his router
[03:39] <Omegacenti> bkar: It only says for 7.10 anything about icedtea, I wish to use sun java's developer kit
[03:39] <ubuntujay123> googel it wenbo
[03:39] <neeto> I was installing emerald and I ran into some problems, but it left me with no window deocrations and I can't move or close anything. Can someone tell me how to re-enable xfce?
[03:39] <danbhfive> brophat: have you setup your router?
[03:39] <brophat> danbhfive yes
[03:39] <bkar> !java | bkar
[03:39] <soldats> wenbo, anywhere on the web. any picture can be used as wallpaper
[03:40] <adub> soldats thanks
[03:40] <danbhfive> brophat: how?
[03:40] <soldats> adub, if you need more help you may PM me
[03:40] <bkar> Omegacenti-> did you take the time to visit the link?
[03:40] <adub> k
[03:40] <ZionPsyfer> neeto: Do you have a terminal up?
[03:40] <ubuntujay123> neeto what graphic card u have
[03:40] <ratfinkkeyton> I need help with fiesty wireless
[03:40] <Omegacenti> bkar: Yes, it led to a dead end page.
[03:40] <brophat> danbhfive http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/2wire/2701HG-B/Apache.htm
[03:40] <neeto> ZionPsyfer: yep.
[03:41] <Omegacenti> bkar: not the original link you gave me from ubotu, but the icead tea one under the jdk section in the link.
[03:41] <danbhfive> brophat: the way i did it, is I setup my computer to have a static ip address in the 192.168.x.x address space.  Then, I had the router forward to that address
[03:41] <neeto> ubuntujay123: I have an intel integrated POS running the 945GM chipset
[03:41] <ZionPsyfer> neeto: I'm guessing at the command here, but try running 'xfce' in it and see.
[03:41] <ratfinkkeyton> anyone here good with wireless?
[03:41] <bkar> Omega no it has not, read the section where it says Ubuntu your version.. all kinds of java options to apt-get there
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless | ratfinkkeyton
[03:41] <ubotu> ratfinkkeyton: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:41] <brophat> danbhfive I just followed the steps at the webpage
[03:41] <soldats> neeto, try xfwm4 in terminal
[03:41] <neeto> ZionPsyfer: already tried that, unfortunately to no avail
[03:41] <wenbo> double systems,xp ,and ubunru,   Grub Error 17 ,what?
[03:42] <ratfinkkeyton> this is regarding a card that doesn't work without ndiswrapper
[03:42] <Nik_> can someone help me with this problem or do i need to go to a differnt server
[03:42] <ratfinkkeyton> and I don't think I have it setup correctly
[03:42] <neeto> soldats: Thanks
[03:42] <danbhfive> brophat: do you understand what you are doing?  It probably best that you understand
[03:42] <scuizi> wenbo: do u have more than one drive in the machine?
[03:42] <bkar> Omegacenti->   sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk   <---- here since you have not read it yet
[03:42] <soldats> neeto, let me know if it works
[03:42] <brophat> danbhfive I did those steps at the webpage
[03:42] <wenbo> only one drive
[03:42] <Gorgoroth_72> SoundBlaster S-Fi help from anyone?
[03:42] <Gorgoroth_72> X-Fi
[03:42] <brophat> danbhfive did you see that link?
[03:42] <soldats> Nik_, doubt i can help but ask again please
[03:43] <cabbie> can anyone suggest how to change resolution on vga (non-X) console?
[03:43] <neeto> soldats: It worked, thanks mate.
[03:43] <the_sparky> i still need help with clamav
[03:43] <scuizi> wenbo: sounds like you just need to reinstall grub.. I'll see what ubutu has for you
[03:43] <scuizi> !grub | wenbo
[03:43] <ubotu> wenbo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:43] <danbhfive> brophat: yes       can you tell me what you did?
[03:43] <soldats> neeto, :)
[03:43] <brophat> danbhfive well my routher will send all port 80 requests to my puter
[03:44] <Omegacenti> bkar: I have read it, and both instances of sun-java5-jdk are either under 6.06/6.10, or kubuntu 6.06/6.10. Yes, I have read the document.
[03:44] <ubuntujay123> system ,prefernces  , screen resolution cabbie
[03:44] <ZionPsyfer> soldats: thanks, and good to know for future reference.
[03:44] <ZionPsyfer> =)
[03:44] <ratfinkkeyton> I have the wireless card in but I cannot see wireless when I go to network settings
[03:44] <soldats> :P np
[03:44] <pRiZzLe> can anyone help me translate telugu slang to english?
[03:45] <danbhfive> brophat: well, its not working, you should be able to give people the ip address that you gave me earlier, and your router should forward to your computer
[03:45] <brophat> danbhfive what I don't understand is how 74.186.120.21 is my ip address
[03:45] <anderswc> can anyone help me with LAMP?
[03:45] <bkar> Omegacenti-> so why not download it then?
[03:45] <puhchi> hi everybody
[03:45] <chewd> okay i think ive got that sorted
[03:45] <Nik_> soldats: i need help recovering a hard drive, the hard drive shows up in gparted, but not in terminal
[03:45] <Omegacenti> bkar: because that information does not pertain to 7.10.
[03:45] <chewd> it will be interesting to see if it reverts back to the defaults again tomorrow
[03:45] <soldats> Nik_, can you PM me?
[03:45] <chewd> allegedly the changes have been saved
[03:45] <danbhfive> brophat: do you know what NAT is?
[03:45] <scuizi> anderswc: you might try at #ubuntu-server.. or just ask your question here.. don't ask to ask
[03:45] <cabbie> ubuntujay123: no, I mean the console you get with CTRL-ALT-F1 etc...
[03:46] <adub> well same screen look
[03:46] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc:  What do you need help with on it?
[03:46] <soldats> chewd, ill be here tomorrow let me know
[03:46] <bkar> Omegacenti-> same same, you download same jdk, if you dont like 5, change it to 6
[03:46] <nemo> should dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base actually do something?
[03:46] <nemo> trying to un-break alsa
[03:46] <Nik_> soldats: sure
[03:46] <ratfinkkeyton> what command in terminal tells you what wireless card you have
[03:46] <puhchi> How to share my printer in the local network  ?
[03:46] <Omegacenti> bkar: ....
[03:46] <chewd> next question: how did my applications/places/system stuff get moved from the left side of the top menu bar to the right side?
[03:46] <adub> where can i look in xorg.conf to see what the screen resolution is
[03:46] <soldats> adub, under the monitor section
[03:46] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer : i have that pastebin URL for you (WLAN using Knet)
[03:46] <brophat> NAT is like a central hub where all the internet traffic goes through
[03:47] <chewd> somehow the top bar got reversed during all my desktop monkeying yesterday
[03:47] <nemo> soldats: um
[03:47] <nemo> soldats: don't you mean Screen ?
[03:47] <doseryder> What is a good web authoring program (analogous to dreamweaver)?
[03:47] <chewd> not a big deal
[03:47] <danbhfive> brophat: mmm, close
[03:47] <bkar> Omegacenti-> you are using 7.10? what happens if you use sun-java6-jdk ?
[03:47] <chewd> im just curious
[03:47] <puhchi> How to share my printer in the local network  ?
[03:47] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52365/
[03:47] <puhchi> Please help
[03:47] <puhchi> :(
[03:47] <adub> ahh i see modes in monitor section
[03:47] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander: nice!
[03:47] <soldats> adub, well you should check in dektop preference and see what it is. if your frequencies arent correct theres wont show up or work
[03:47] <danbhfive> brophat: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/nat.htm   read here mate, i think it shows it well
[03:47] <adub> cool thanks soldats
[03:47] <scuizi> chewd: just drag it back to were you want it.  if it won't move right mouse click and unlock the bar.
[03:47] <cabbie> in old lilo.conf you could set vga=9, etc but ubuntu's grub boot loader doesn't seem to have the option
[03:48] <brophat> danbhfive I think i have to reboot my router
[03:48] <adub> i just used default frequencies
[03:48] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer : i am "long-winded" so please excuse the lengthy post
[03:48] <chewd> scuizi: im not talking about its location on the screen, im talking about the location of the contents within it
[03:48] <corinth> Is there a way to move a pasted object to specific coordinates in the gimp?
[03:48] <adub> well i only have one mode listed
[03:48] <soldats> nemo, yes sorry i havent messed with it in a few days, the reason is ot though
[03:48] <Omegacenti> bkar: I do not wish to make my system unstable by installing at whim whenever it seems there is such a huge amount of different java jdk's.  I just want to make sure what I choose is the right choice.
[03:48] <adub> but im fine with that one mode
[03:48] <adub> i couldve added others i guess
[03:48] <chewd> applications, plaes, system, & such used to be on the left end of the bar
[03:48] <chewd> now thyre on the right end
[03:48] <genii> adub: Where it has something like SubSection "Display"    then Modes with a bunch of resolutions there in quotes
[03:48] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer: i am "long-winded" so please excuse the lengthy post
[03:48] <whabo> help .... anyone tried installing ubuntu on an HP dv6636nr laptop .... it DOES not work :S
[03:49] <adrock358> My wireless works on Live CD, but not in OS
[03:49] <puhchi> hmmmm boys so there is non of you to help a new girl in linux ?
[03:49] <puhchi> 10x
[03:49] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, I did tesksel install lamp-server
[03:49] <chewd> actually disregard that... its not important
[03:49] <corinth> puhchi: What do you need?
[03:49] <chewd> just weird
[03:49] <ratfinkkeyton> whabo what version did you install
[03:49] <puhchi> How to share my printer in the local network
[03:49] <bkar> Omegacenti-> then why are you even at 7.10? is you want stability? maybe back down to 6.06 is better?
[03:49] <chewd> whats bugging me now is, since i did all the updates i cant seem to access my windows boxes shared folders
[03:49] <anderswc> but when I edit the httpd.conf file, apache says it can't find the php module
[03:50] <chewd> it works when i boot off the live cd
[03:50] <puhchi> I have a windows laptop
[03:50] <mojo> I have a problem with gutsy on amd64 - ffox64 stopped playing sound for flash32-nswrapper.  all the stuff i'm seeing via google seems to suggest loading pulseaudio and compile libflashsupport.  now there was rumor pulseaudio will be in hardy, but aren't there also problems with jack atm?
[03:50] <doseryder> What is a good web authoring program (analogous to dreamweaver)?
[03:50] <chewd> but when i boot off hdd (fully updated ubuntu) no access to my server
[03:50] <bkar> Omegacenti-> also since you are learning to program, those are the things you learn on the way, that not all your target clients have a stable system
[03:50] <corinth> puhchi: You can use samba for that, although I don't know how to configure it.
[03:50] <Pici> !printers > puhchi (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:50] <mattholimeau> heya - what's the sftp gui client that comes shipped with ubuntu? (i'm assuming there is one)
[03:50] <genii> adrock358: Use then the debootstrap way
[03:50] <Pici> doseryder: I hear good thinks about kompozer
[03:50] <whabo> ratfunkkeyton : the regular CD 7.10 ... doesnt seem to work at all im in live CD safe graphics mode right now ... wireless does not work ... microphone has soo much hissing.  etc .... its a mess :(
[03:50] <Nik_> soldats: what info do i need to contact you?
[03:50] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander:  Heh, explanations are a good thing. =)  Looks good.  I'm curious how setting the ESSID will work.  Or if it will be set by KnetMan by itself.
[03:50] <adrock358> how do I do that?
[03:51] <doseryder> Pici: Kompozer, is that for kde?
[03:51] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: K, and did everything install for you?
[03:51] <chewd> id really like to be able to access my windows network
[03:51] <doseryder> Pici: or gnome?
[03:51] <Nik_> soldats: or is there someone here that speacilizes in hard drives
[03:51] <nemo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/145747/ <- anyone care to speculate on this ALSA issue? anyone?  anything similar?  Anyone here frustrated by stuff freezing?
[03:51] <ratfinkkeyton> whabo I know what you mean, I have a compaq/hp laptop too
[03:51] <Pici> doseryder: I don't know.
[03:51] <chewd> it doesnt even see the workgroup anymore
[03:51] <genii> adrock358: There is a good example here http://www.cs278.org/blog/ubuntu-configuration/feisty-debootstrap-encrypted-install/   just ignore the parts about encryption
[03:51] <mattholimeau> on windows i currently have winscp with notepad++ integrated as an editor... i would guess that ubuntu comes with something like that
[03:51] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer: i will restart, and let you know of the outcome
[03:51] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, it didn't output anything
[03:51] <chewd> worked fine before i updated everything
[03:51] <bkar> mattholimeau-> i dont know myself, but if I were you, start exploring gnome-xxx just type gnome on a terminal and tab twice..
[03:51] <ratfinkkeyton> there are some problems with 7.10 and HPs
[03:51] <anderswc> just ran and then nothing
[03:51] <Jay-Oh-En> whats the name of that IM is it mercury?
[03:51] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander:  Nah, don't go through the trouble now.  We'll know how it turns out next time you need to. =)
[03:52] <chewd> is there a software firewall somewhere in here?
[03:52] <mojo> chewd, what did you update?
[03:52] <ratfinkkeyton> I made the mistake of upgrading when I should have left it alone
[03:52] <soldats> Nik_, you may pm me with your question
[03:52] <Jay-Oh-En> !info mercury
[03:52] <ubotu> mercury: A new logic/functional programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.0.rotd.20040511-5ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 4585 kB, installed size 20180 kB
[03:52] <joeamined> i'm using ubuntu gutsy on my hp laptop and everything is fine..
[03:52] <jrib> mattholimeau: nautilus, the default file browser, can be used as an sftp client
[03:52] <soldats> !firestarter | chewd
[03:52] <ubotu> chewd: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:52] <chewd> oh, i just ran the update manager & let it update everything it said needed updating
[03:52] <adrock358> genii i have 7.1 is that okay?
[03:52] <Nik_> soldats: how, through irc, if so i dont know how
[03:52] <whabo> AHHHHH i guess ill go and try some other distro .. Ubuntu isnt good for new HP notebooks :S
[03:52] <whabo> ANy thoughts?
[03:52] <ratfinkkeyton> my graphics were all screwy but my wireless card worked
[03:52] <misslecommander> lol
[03:52] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer: yes, you are prob right, its working now, so i will do it later :)
[03:52] <whabo> any thought for an alternative distro that might work ..
[03:52] <soldats> miked, yes /msg soldats msghere
[03:52] <genii> adrock358: Yes, I used that page as reference recently to install Gutsy
[03:52] <mojo> chewd, there is a firewall (iptables) in the kernel, and there is samba for windows (smb protocol) networking.  the smb.conf file configs your windows workgroup et al
[03:52] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: if you go to your browser and type in: 127.0.0.1 does it give you the default apache page?
[03:52] <chewd> is there some way to disable the firewall altogether? i have a very trustworthy hardware firewall
[03:52] <ratfinkkeyton> no no, ubuntu is great for HPs, I would suggest using 7.04
[03:52] <anderswc> yeah
[03:53] <joeamined> whabo ubuntu works very well in my new hp laptop
[03:53] <squarebracket> i think i screwed up my master boot record by installing windows xp, is there any way i can get it back? or install grub again or something?
[03:53] <fr500_> chewd: did you install some firewall?
[03:53] <chewd> nope
[03:53] <fr500_> there is no firewall by default
[03:53] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander: Hehe, you'd be cursing at me if you did and it broke something. ;)
[03:53] <joeamined> and i'm using gutsy,,
[03:53] <bkar> chewd-> you dont normally disable iptables, its burned in to the kernel
[03:53] <chewd> so i probably updated to a more recent samba version
[03:53] <ratfinkkeyton> read the forums, it seems that certain HPs have problems with the latest version
[03:53] <soldats> brb
[03:53] <chewd> one that, unfortunately does not work as well as the older one that is on my live cd
[03:53] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer: lol, really its working smoother than it ever has
[03:53] <bkar> chewd-> just leave it with no rules and accept policy as default
[03:53] <genii> adrock358: As I said, just skip over the parts about the encrypted drive setup (unless you want that of course)
[03:54] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, I compiled and installed apache seperately though.
[03:54] <misslecommander> maybe i just keep it the way it is
[03:54] <ratfinkkeyton> but mine worked like a charm with Fiesty once I was able to build my driver for my wireless
[03:54] <adrock358> okay
[03:54] <anderswc> before I found out about Lamp
[03:54] <whabo> well guys it doesnt seem to work for me .. my graphics are a mess .. and compiz-fusion doesn work .. and my microphone isnt working ... not to mention my wireless card broadcom ... tried to get dfwrapper .. no luck ..
[03:54] <fr500_> chewd: what is not working
[03:54] <chewd> when i boot off the live cd i can surf right into my windows network no probs.. no config necessary
[03:54] <ratfinkkeyton> I went and reinstalled 7.04 and am trying to get the wireless working again and am having no luck
[03:54] <chewd> but when i boot off my hdd, no dice
[03:54] <joeamined> whabo, what is your configuration ?
[03:54] <fr500_> chewd: thats weird
[03:54] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: It's all good.  First step is to get apache running if you do em separately.  Is it working alright?
[03:54] <joeamined> what hp laptop is it ?
[03:54] <chewd> yea i thought so too
[03:54] <chewd> i wonder what the diff is
[03:55] <chewd> my live cd is 7.10
[03:55] <soldats> chewd, i didnt notice was samba installed
[03:55] <whabo> joeamined ... wireless config ???? its not recognizing my chip at all :(
[03:55] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, yeah it works fine, but simply spits out php code with php pages
[03:55] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer: my curiousity gets the best of me sometimes, but i learn at the same time, it just frustrates me getting it back, but i back everything up, and keep good notes. you should see my notepad, pencil and paer jots
[03:55] <fr500_> chewd: try setting up your workgroup name at least
[03:55] <mojo> chewd, but it worked on the hdd install until you did a system update off the panel nag applet?
[03:55] <chewd> soldat: isnt it part of the default install?
[03:55] <joeamined> whabo, i mean the hp model
[03:55] <ratfinkkeyton> whabo, there is a program called ndiswrapper
[03:55] <joeamined> (pavillion dv..)
[03:55] <whabo> joeamined : HP dv6636nr
[03:55] <chewd> mojo: im not sure... it may not have
[03:56] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander: Love it when that happens, I usually make a copy of my /etc when I get everything tweaked. Then I can copy the whole thing back if I bork it.  That's bitten me once too though. ;)
[03:56] <ratfinkkeyton> it helped me get mine working last time, but I can't remember how
[03:56] <supaneko> Is there any firewall software available for Linux that works like ZoneAlarm? I am looking for something that will allow me to block Internet access to certain programs.
[03:56] <ratfinkkeyton> that's why I'm here
[03:56] <adrock358> i don't have two computers genii
[03:56] <whabo> i troed that ratfinkkeyton No luck ... try it urself it wont work .. it might for few minutes but then its gone
[03:56] <chewd> fr500: gimme a sec... i think i set the workgroup ... but i need to double check that
[03:56] <genii> adrock358: That example uses only one computer
[03:56] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer: good idea, now that you say that, i will do that now. can i use that in Recovery Mode ?
[03:56] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: alright, so apache just isn't setup for it. let me check something really quick.
[03:56] <dhude> hey, where can I find good games for unu?
[03:56] <dhude> *ubu
[03:57] <mojo> chewd, soldats may have a point, i seem to remember having to install samba.  but that was like a couple months ago that i did the gutsy install, so i forget
[03:57] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, thanks
[03:57] <genii> adrock358: Do everything it suggests but from the livecd
[03:57] <mattholimeau> jrib: beautiful, thanks. i tried that before asking in here... just didn't bother think about syntax
[03:57] <inkaico> hello how do we know where the printer is conected to?
[03:57] <ratfinkkeyton> anyone good with terminal?
[03:57] <chewd> oh.. lemme check add/remove then
[03:57] <joeamined> dhude, you can check add/remove software in games category
[03:57] <adrock358> okay
[03:57] <ratfinkkeyton>  I need to know what drivers I have for a wireless card
[03:57] <soldats> chewd, if groups doesnt work look through launchpad because i recall some bugs/fixes for samba
[03:57] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander: Yeah, you can actually do it from a terminal without being in recovery.
[03:57] <mojo> cheeby, though you'd think if the livecd has it installed then the hd install would too
[03:57] <genii> adrock358: (excepting the encrypted drive stuff unless you want that as well)
[03:57] <supaneko> Is there any software that will allow me to block Internet to certain programs?
[03:57] <mojo> cheeby, sry, that was for chewd
[03:57] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer: backing up now
[03:58] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc:  By the way, which version of php are you using?  4 or 5?
[03:58] <mojo> chewd, though you'd think if the livecd has it installed then the hd install would too
[03:58] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, 5
[03:58] <chewd> mojo: no kidding
[03:58] <bkar> supaneko-> iptables
[03:58] <dhude> joeamined: where's add/remove software?
[03:58] <chewd> add/remove search shows nothing for samba
[03:58] <chewd> which tab would it be under? internet??
[03:58] <supaneko> bkar, that will block access for certain programs? Is there a GUI that will allow me to do that
[03:58] <joeamined> dhude, applications menu, last entry
[03:58] <supaneko> ?
[03:58] <whabo> Ill try PClinuxOS .. now lets see if i get it working with it .... I hope so .... :( other wise im back on winblows :(
[03:59] <mojo> chewd, it might not be called samba on the descriptions there... use synaptic under system/administration
[03:59] <ratfinkkeyton> whabo, try installing ndiswrapper
[03:59] <chewd> k
[03:59] <tcpsyn> good afternoon. I installed ubuntu server x86_64... and I noticed, that I'm still only reading up 3.2 of my 4g ram.. Shouldn't I be all set under those circumstances?
[03:59] <bkar> supaneko-> maybe..dont know the name
[03:59] <fr500_> chewd: go to system, administration, and shared folders
[03:59] <joeamined> whabo, maybe your install cd is corrupt..
[03:59] <fr500_> that will let you install samba
[03:59] <whabo> ratfinkkeyton i did ... i had my wireless running for 5 minutes then i lost it
[04:00] <whabo> joeamined .. how is it corrupted???
[04:00] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Is the package 'libapache2-mod-php5' installed?
[04:00] <chewd> fr500: OOOH
[04:00] <chewd> sharing services are not installed!
[04:00] <mojo> I have a problem with gutsy on amd64 - ffox64 stopped playing sound for flash32-nswrapper.  all the stuff i'm seeing via google seems to suggest loading pulseaudio and compile libflashsupport.  now there was rumor pulseaudio will be in hardy, but aren't there also problems with jack atm?
[04:00] <chewd> just a min
[04:00] <joeamined> when it was burned, or downloaded..it happened to me one time
[04:00] <whabo> aight guys im out .. let me try some pclinuxos :D
[04:00] <whabo> cya
[04:00] <adrock358> genii i hope these questionsa don't bother you, but...  do i install fdisk as well?
[04:01] <mojo> any advice?
[04:01] <joeamined> i redownloaded it and reburn it and i got rid of the errors (just a suggestion)
[04:01] <soldats> sudo apt-get install samba
[04:01] <chewd> apparently samba wasnt installed to hdd by default
[04:01] <chewd> weird
[04:01] <nano_> srsly
[04:01] <whabo> joeamined its not corrupted ... it installed fine but too many issues
[04:01] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, how can I find out in the terminal?
[04:01] <mojo> soldats, i been doing sudo aptitude install xyz but can't say for sure why it's supposed to be better
[04:02] <genii> adrock358: You boot to livecd, then install debootstrap fdisk and grub (as in step 1 there without the encryptd stuff)
[04:02] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: try doing a 'sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5' It's the lazy way, but apt will tell you if it's already installed.
[04:02] <chewd> hmm... it installed samba.. but still no dice on the windows network
[04:02] <chewd> maybe i have to reboot for it to take effect
[04:02] <chewd> brb
[04:02] <ZionPsyfer> if it's not installed, it will be. ;)
[04:02] <soldats> mojo, its just preference. if you use aptitude you cant remove via apt-get and vise versa so its up to you to remember when doing maintenence
[04:03] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, it says it can't find the package..
[04:03] <triplicate> I'm trying to recompile my kernel from source but I keep running into this error: make[1]: *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s'.
[04:03] <mojo> soldats, oh, okay... i thought aptitude had some better dependency tracking or something
[04:03] <adrock358> grub?  i'm on the live cd.  i installed bootstrap.  but then it has all this green on black writing.  i don't think i can enter that into the command terminal
[04:03] <roshan_> anyone here have an 8600 gt?
[04:03] <inkaico> does anyone know how tu use lpadmin?
[04:03] <chimp> if you try to remove something installed with apt-get using aptitude what happens?
[04:03] <misslecommander> i have jvidia and tried the nvidia-gtk-new, only to find it makes my system unstable
[04:03] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: 'apt-cache search --names-only libapache2-mod-php'
[04:04] <misslecommander> !aptitude
[04:04] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[04:04] <roshan_> misslecommander: did the restricted drivers not work for u?
[04:04] <misslecommander> roshan: you mean install or work ?
[04:04] <genii> adrock358: The second part where he fdisks the drive in 1 line can be done more carefully by running manually the fdisk program from in Terminal and specifying how you want the setup.Step 3 there can be ignored entirely unless you are the paranoid type.Stgep 4 omit any lines which have "cryptsetup" in them.
[04:04] <inkaico> !lpadmin
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lpadmin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <soldats> mojo, that may be, i use aptitude as well but the suggested cli package manager on the forums for newer people seems to be apt-get
[04:04] <triplicate> I'm trying to recompile my kernel from source but I keep running into this error: make[1]: *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s'.
[04:04] <roshan_> install
[04:04] <mojo> soldats, np
[04:05] <soldats> :)
[04:05] <chewd> hmm that didnt do it
[04:05] <adrock358> dude, thank you so much.  i'm going to try it.  please don't go anyway
[04:05] <adrock358> where
[04:05] <chewd> checking in synaptic to make sure samba is actually installed
[04:05] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, tried that and it gave me the same message for the "apt-get"
[04:05] <misslecommander> roshan: yes but it was very hard for me. it seemed to be i needed to select all the internet servers in Server Sources in order to even get it to download and install
[04:05] <mojo> anyone know the status of pulseaudo on ubuntu and if it works with jack?
[04:05] <genii> adrock358: step 5 just mount the drive ormally instead of the /dev/mapper way. The rest is pretty much what you see there to do
[04:05] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: You mean apt-get isn't found?  which distro are you using?
[04:06] <mojo> i have a problem and the suggested fix is to install pulseaudio but i don't want to, eh, jack up jack
[04:06] <genii> adrock358: I'll be here for a while to help
[04:06] <anderswc> no... libapache2-... isn't found
[04:06] <roshan_> misslecommander: i have tried both envy and the restricted drivers and neither of them work at all for my 8600 gt. Everything ubuntu finishes the loading screen, my monitor goes blank and i get the error message "No input signal go to power save"
[04:06] <misslecommander> roshan: it was easy enough to disable, but a pain to even get to install. it may have been just me, but it was super hard, took me days to do it
[04:06] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, no... "libapache2-..." isn't found
[04:06] <misslecommander> roshan: are you running the box now ?
[04:06] <roshan_> yes
[04:07] <Jay-Oh-En> anybody know any good speed up guides?
[04:07] <misslecommander> roshan: someone told me something i could try. let me get it for you, maybe it will help, give me a min
[04:07] <Jay-Oh-En> i cant seems to find anything
[04:07] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc:  Wha? Can you run an 'apt-get update' and try it again?  If it still doesn't find it, then your repositories might have some issues.
[04:07] <anderswc> ok
[04:07] <navetz> how do i get unbanned from a certain channel?
[04:07] <mojo> Jay-Oh-En, no guides of top o me head but you may look into blackisting the ipv6 module to improve surfing
[04:07] <genii> navetz: Plead your case in #ubuntu-ops
[04:07] <PriceChild> navetz, contact whoever banned you
[04:08] <Jay-Oh-En> mojo, yeah but like i need other stuff too
[04:08] <soldats> navetz, not here tough
[04:08] <Jay-Oh-En> !ipv6
[04:08] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:08] <misslecommander> roshan: take a look at this page under Run the Autodetect Script Again -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:08] <misslecommander> roshan: you can put that script in your terminal
[04:08] <fraroco> Hello, everybody!!
[04:08] <soldats> !hi > fraroco
[04:08] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, I tried "apt-get update" and then tried installing again but got the same results
[04:08] <misslecommander> roshanL i was told it will re-detect your video settings
[04:09] <mojo> Jay-Oh-En, tried searching ubuntu with other key words like tune speed up tweak performance and such?
[04:09] <chewd> hey, in the shared folders menu, under gen properties, right under where you set the workgroup... theres a checkbox for "This computer is a WINS server"... do i need to turn that on?
[04:09] <roshan_> missilecommander: thx, i'll give that a shot
[04:09] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Alright can you bring up synaptic?
[04:09] <genii> chewd: Not usually
[04:09] <misslecommander> roshan: ok, hope it helps
[04:09] <anderswc> yeah
[04:09] <chewd> shouldnt my router be the WINS server?
[04:09] <soldats> Jay-Oh-En, google "speed up ubuntu"
[04:09] <Jay-Oh-En> mojo, yeah but i get nothing ive always found stuff before but i cant now anyways i installed ubuntu again last night so i need speed up guides
[04:09] <fraroco> soldats, I have maybe a stupid question but I wanna know what does it be the newest version of Ubuntu 8.04!!
[04:09] <mojo> Jay-Oh-En, or maybe a guide to services you can remove/disable, like bluetooth daemons if you have no bluetooth hardware, or a guide to compiling your own kernel with optimizations?
[04:10] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, synaptic's up
[04:10] <genii> chewd: WINS server is like a local name server but only for machines which are on the WORKGROUP or so
[04:10] <soldats> !hardy > fraroco
[04:10] <misslecommander> ZionPhysfer: youre gonna laugh when i tell you i have a new issue :) my pc beep, beeps when i type lol
[04:10] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Alright, in the Settings-> Sources, make sure Universe is enabled.
[04:10] <chewd> whoa hey, i can see a couple of my boxes now
[04:10] <chewd> weird
[04:10] <anderswc> ok
[04:10] <mojo> chewd, nice
[04:10] <misslecommander> ZionPhysfer: i will deal with it, but it isnt getting a restart till it crashes :P
[04:10] <Jay-Oh-En> mojo, i dont want to screw up my kernel
[04:10] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander: Lol!
[04:10] <chewd> cant get to my server yet.. but it sees my workgroup... thats progress :)
[04:11] <misslecommander> lol
[04:11] <ratfinkkeyton> sudo ndiswrapper -l
[04:11] <ratfinkkeyton> lsrtnds : invalid driver!
[04:11] <ratfinkkeyton> lswl2nds : invalid driver!
[04:11] <ratfinkkeyton> lswlnds5 : invalid driver!
[04:11] <fraroco> how can I change to #ubuntu+1?
[04:11] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, there is no Settings ->Sources ...
[04:11] <soldats> Jay-Oh-En, speeding up ubuntu may be using a smaller window manager like xfce or e16 etc
[04:11] <ratfinkkeyton> this is what i get when I look at my drivers
[04:11] <ratfinkkeyton> any one know how to uninstall them?
[04:11] <Shuggle> Is there a way that I can use the nvidia restricted driver on the livecd?
[04:11] <misslecommander> chewd: there is Network Tools that may help in that kind of thing
[04:11] <mojo> Jay-Oh-En, they say it sounds harder than it is.  you will also probably just keep a backup copy of your compiled kernel to revert to if needed.  but anyway i've never done it either, though i've considered it
[04:11] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Repositories then, sorry.  ;)  Doing this from memory.
[04:11] <IndyGunFreak> fraroco: "/join ubuntu+1" no quotes
[04:11] <anderswc> ok
[04:12] <brophat> bkar it works not
[04:12] <anderswc> ok, hopefully that will work :)
[04:12] <IndyGunFreak> fraroco: that should actually be "/join #ubuntu+1"   sorry
[04:12] <corinth> Is there a way to set different wallpapers for dual monitors in Ubuntu Gutsy?
[04:12] <chewd> yea i saw the network tools thing.. but it looked like it was for troubleshooting the WAN connection
[04:12] <brophat> bkar after doing port fowarding, all I had to do was reboot my router
[04:12] <chewd> ping tracert & such
[04:12] <adrock358> hey genii how do i mount the root normally, (not using dev mapper)?
[04:12] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Alright, you'll need to run the 'sudo apt-get update' first before trying to install the libapache2-mod-php5 package again
[04:13] <misslecommander> System/Administration/Software Sources helped me out bigtime, i checkled all except source code
[04:13] <mojo> corinth, just search the web for widescreen wallpapers, dual-monitor wallpapers, etc
[04:13] <genii> adrock358: What is the /dev name? eg: /dev/sda1   /dev/sdb1    or so
[04:13] <chewd> HEY
[04:13] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, ok I updated.
[04:13] <corinth> mojo: Problem is, my two monitors are at different resolutions.
[04:13] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander: Agreed.  That's usually the first item on my list after an install.  More toys to play with.
[04:13] <chewd> i just punched in smb://newserv & its working :)
[04:13] <roshan_> misslecommander: i've already tied the dpkg-reconfigure server-xorg, and if my problem was about refresh rates, i would get a out of range error message. currently, i'm getting a no input signal error message
[04:14] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: alright try 'sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5' again
[04:14] <chewd> just had to prime the pump i guess
[04:14] <chewd> :D
[04:14] <Jay-Oh-En> mojo, its not slow or anything but i know with the hardware that i have in my computer it should go faster
[04:14] <chewd> progress as promised!
[04:14] <soldats> chewd, good job :)
[04:14] <anderswc> yay, it's working!
[04:14] <adrock358> ok...i'm trying, and I'm thinking... how do i find that info?  where do I look?  Thanks. genii
[04:14] <Lurner> The other day my applications menu stopped functioning. Anyone know anything about how this is controlled ? Is it a bunch of shortcuts in a folder , like Windows or is it a config file as is common in Linux , or is it a third system ?
[04:14] <chewd> sometimes if you just ask the question, the answer presents itself :)
[04:14] <IndyGunFreak> corinth: if you figure out a way to do that, let me know... seems... I ended up just doing some gimp work on my wallpapers, and merged two wallpapers, into 1 file, and it looks pretty good.
[04:14] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: woot, now you'll need to restart apache '/etc/init.d/apache2 restart'
[04:14] <chewd> thanks for being my soundboard
[04:15] <adrock358> wait, if i don't say your name in the text it won't show up in brown, right?
[04:15] <misslecommander> ZionPysfer: i would think that they would be enabled by default, or alteast the secured ones. more toys, yes i like more toys, more things i can break my ssytem with :) it was major help
[04:15] <AFarris01> i have no sound on my system, after trying to install pulseaudio... all details here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4157039#post4157039)...can anybody help me?
[04:15] <bkar> brophat-> it does not work? what did you configure in your router again?
[04:15] <genii> adrock358: Well normally if you are installing to an entire drive and it is the only one and master on primary channel then /dev/sda1          but if you have Windows installed it would likely be /dev/sda2
[04:15] <brophat> bkar it does work now
[04:15] <corinth> IndyGunFreak: I don't mind doing that, but is there a way to move a pasted image to a specific spot? Like, +1440 pixels?
[04:15] <desertc> !sound |AFarris01
[04:15] <ubotu> AFarris01: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:15] <chewd> SWEET
[04:15] <chewd> ive got dual-head working & now my network too
[04:15] <IndyGunFreak> corinth: now that i don't know.
[04:15] <brophat> bkar go here http://74.186.120.21/
[04:15] <AFarris01> the alsa is selected
[04:15] <mneptok> misslecommander: if you like :things you can break your system with," you are no longer allowed to complain about Ubuntu on this channel. if you break it, blame yourself. :)
[04:16] <mojo> !pulseaudio
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pulseaudio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <misslecommander> i have 8 partitions acrross 2 physical drives, with 3 OS's on 1 machine
[04:16] <brophat> bkar i did a port foward, then i reboot the router
[04:16] <unagi> can you drag and drop the / dir to another hard drive and it boot just fine?
[04:16] <ratfinkkeyton> wow no one can help me with ndiswrapper and installing wireless
[04:16] <atomdog2003> how do I mount an ISO on Ubuntu?
[04:16] <IndyGunFreak> AFarris01: are you using IntelHDA sound device?
[04:16] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander: Heh agreed.
[04:16] <mneptok> atomdog2003: tried right-clicking it?
[04:16] <unagi> !iso
[04:16] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:16] <unagi> !iso | atomdog2003
[04:16] <ubotu> atomdog2003: please see above
[04:16] <VvWolverinevV> ok, im a super linux n00b, how do i play mp3's?
[04:16] <soldats> AFarris01, if selecting alsa still doesnt work try running "alsamixer" in terminla and unmuting everything and turninng everything up
[04:16] <bkar> brophat i can not see it, nothing displayed..just attempts to connect
[04:16] <th0r> unagi no
[04:16] <unagi> you cant?
[04:16] <AFarris01> no, i have a soundblaster pic card
[04:16] <AFarris01> pci
[04:17] <misslecommander> mneptok: thats the thing, i dont do anything and it breaks. but, i do like to have access to all it has to offer. for a while i haddnt had them, now i do
[04:17] <Jay-Oh-En> unagi, is your name fresh water eel?
[04:17] <adrock358> ok. now how do i mount that
[04:17] <unagi> no my name is bryan
[04:17] <brophat> bkar that is weird cause it works for me
[04:17] <AFarris01> there is only 1 bar in alsamixer, its lables 'pulseaudio' and its maxed and unmuted
[04:17] <joeamined> VvWolverineVV open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted
[04:17] <brophat> bkar and should be the same for me as for you
[04:17] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, when starting apache it still says "/usr/local/apache2/modules/libphp5.so" not found
[04:17] <chewd> hmmm
[04:17] <Lurner> Het VvWolverinevV - search for the fluendo plug ins that will allow mp3 playback
[04:17] <bkar> brophat i already advised you,  you need NAT
[04:17] <misslecommander> mneptok: the biggest problem i had, was a result of not having all the software sources checked, after that, i had much more access to the right files
[04:17] <chewd> okay... you guys tired of me yet
[04:17] <AFarris01> the pulse server seed the card and everything
[04:18] <Lurner> in the add and remove programs tool
[04:18] <VvWolverinevV> joeamined can i install gstreamer?
[04:18] <genii> adrock358: in Terminal:   sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1; mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1                         then use /mnt/sda1
[04:18] <chewd> no sound on my video... how can i check & make sure that my soundcard is in fact working
[04:18] <AFarris01> and when i test platy sounds it shows an active audio stream
[04:18] <chewd> so i can verify its not a codec issue
[04:18] <brophat> bkar ok how do I get this thing you call NAT
[04:18] <IndyGunFreak> AFarris01: do you get errors when you play a sound file, or does it look like its playing, you just don't hear anything?
[04:18] <AFarris01> i just get nothing from my speakers
[04:18] <AFarris01> the latter
[04:18] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Weird.  Try this:  'locate libphp5.so'
[04:18] <joeamined> VvWolverinevV yes, and to play mp3s you have to install sdditional gstreamer packages
[04:18] <AFarris01> but if i open a volume monitor
[04:18] <AFarris01> it shows as playing
[04:18] <IndyGunFreak> AFarris01: do you have onboard sound, in addition to the PCI card?
[04:19] <VvWolverinevV> joeamined: does that script you posted get me to those plugins?
[04:19] <AFarris01> yes, and it is disabled through bios
[04:19] <bkar> brophat what is the model of your ap/router again?
[04:19] <Shuggle> Is there any way I can use the nvidia restricted driver without rebooting (on the livecd)?
[04:19] <misslecommander> mneptok: for instance, i do nothing and my pc speaker beeps on every key i press, but i only been in here chatting, but now i may know there could be an issue with me keyboard, so i will have to check it out
[04:19] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, it just ran, it didn't print anything
[04:19] <chewd> ok i found it
[04:19] <chewd> no sound :(
[04:19] <AFarris01> i had to disable because it was causing trouble with steam in windows
[04:19] <atomdog2003> how do I mount an ISO that is located on a windows share?  I've already connected to the share.  I want to open in in VLC.  VLC for windows would know what to do if I used VLC's quick open function.  This is not working on the VLC on Ubuntu.  The ISO is a movie DVD.
[04:19] <joeamined> VvWolverinevV yep
[04:19] <chewd> i see the prob
[04:19] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Alright, let's do a 'sudo find / -name 'libphp5.so'
[04:20] <brophat> bkar whey do you need that?
[04:20] <bkar> brophat do you want me to assist you?
[04:20] <chewd> its trying to use my onboard crap soundcard rather than my kickass turtlebeach pci soundcard
[04:20] <mneptok> misslecommander: but you make some incredible logical leaps. such as "my system beeps" = "this happens to every user" ergo "Ubuntu sucks"
[04:20] <anderswc> at least it's taking some time now...
[04:20] <bkar> brophat its okay, if you dont want
[04:20] <brophat> bkar no answer? you know what they say about ppl who don't answer questions? hahaha
[04:21] <VvWolverinevV> joeamined: "Couldn't find package ubuntu-restricted"
[04:22] <zetheroo> I am using awn and I on accident right-clicked on a mounted drive in the stacker applet and told it to Hide. Now its gone ... how do I "unhide" it?
[04:22] <bkar> brophat, oh well ..
[04:22] <os2mac> what is the name and location of the file that stores your desktop settings?
[04:22] <AFarris01> i also manually reset the alsa to use my pci sound card as default with a command i found in the troubleshooting sound page
[04:22] <atomdog2003> how do I mount an ISO that is located on a windows share?
[04:22] <Animortis> My Ubuntu laptop cannot connect to a wifi server if it has another computer connected to it, even if that server is configured for more than one PC. Does anyone know why?
[04:22] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: You should get at least a few results on that.
[04:22] <bazhang> brophat: you have an issue?
[04:22] <ZionPsyfer> it may take a few minutes.
[04:22] <misslecommander> chewd: thank you, you just let me in on what my pc speaker problem was, it was the soundcard. i was wondering why my realplayer was still streaming, but no sound was coming out, and my keys beeped when i type
[04:22] <ratfinkkeyton> wifi not working at all with feisty, screen is blurry and fuzzy with gutsy
[04:23] <ratfinkkeyton> what should I do?
[04:23] <bkar> Animortis-> how are you attempting to connect to it from your laptop?
[04:23] <mneptok> brophat: someone asking what kind of router you have when trying to help you with your router is hardly surprising
[04:23] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, I got one result.. it's in user/lib... not user/local :)
[04:23] <Animortis> bkar, Network manager in roaming mode.
[04:23] <misslecommander> yet another thing to diagnose lol, getting there Physfer :)
[04:23] <atomdog2003> how do I refer to files in the terminal that are located on a windows share?
[04:23] <AFarris01> any more ideas for the sound issue?
[04:23] <misslecommander> Knet rocks quick access to wifi, yeah!
[04:23] <soldats> !alsa
[04:23] <bkar> Animortis-> i meant, wireless or ethernet?
[04:23] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:24] <desertc> AFarris01: No Sound?  >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/156930
[04:24] <Animortis> bkar, Wireless. I'm using it now because my roommate isn't online. But if he was, I couldn't connect.
[04:24] <brophat> mneptok I don't need help with my router; I need my webserver to be accessible
[04:24] <ezpinha> http://www.sahw.com/wp/archivos/2006/07/20/diez-distribuciones-linux-ligeras-para-uso-en-equipos-poco-potentes-yo-obsoletos/
[04:24] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: that might just be our problem, let me check something.  Some stuff installs in /usr/lib, some in /usr/local/lib.  sometimes things get crossed (at least for me). ;)
[04:24] <AFarris01> it used to work, but i only had it out of 1 speaker
[04:24] <mneptok> brophat: and that is a function of NAT and your router
[04:24] <AFarris01> so i upgraded to pulseaudio and then i got system sounds but nothing from apps
[04:24] <ezpinha> If somebody want "small" linux's
[04:24] <ezpinha> :P
[04:24] <soldats> are your speakers bad
[04:24] <os2mac> !kdmconfig
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdmconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <bkar> Animortis i dont follow, if he is online, you can not connect, are these same pc's or two different ones?
[04:25] <AFarris01> so i went back to esound and now have nothing at all
[04:25] <bazhang> ezpinha: wrong channel for that
[04:25] <brophat> mneptok see if you can get this page http://74.186.120.21/
[04:25] <bluefox83> brb restarting X
[04:25] <soldats> ezpinha, this is a support channel only please keep to topic
[04:25] <mneptok> brophat: is port 80 forwarded to the local IP?
[04:25] <ezpinha> ops sorry
[04:25] <atomdog2003> how do I navigate to a windows share in the terminal?  Where are they mounted?
[04:25] <AFarris01> no, speakers work great...i can verify through windows partition
[04:25] <mneptok> brophat: forwarded *in the router*
[04:25] <atomdog2003> I mean a samba share
[04:25] <jackdaw> yo
[04:25] <brophat> mneptok yes
[04:25] <misslecommander> AFarris01: what issue are you having ?
[04:26] <soldats> strange
[04:26] <mneptok> brophat: apparently not. or your httpd has issues
[04:26] <Animortis> bkar, Two different PCs. For example, if he gets online, my internet connection is lost. Or if he's online, I can't connect. I can't connect to public wifi connections either for the same reason - other people are using the wifi connection.
[04:26] <chewd> hey sounds working!
[04:26] <chewd> im batting 100 tonight
[04:26] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, I changed the line in the httpd.conf to point to the correct place
[04:26] <chewd> im on a roll!
[04:26] <misslecommander> AFarris01: i had it on default, what ubuntu configured, but now i changed it to what i know it is.
[04:26] <anderswc> and now apache starts
[04:26] <AFarris01> my sound quit working in my apps after i installed pulseaudio on ubuntu 7.10
[04:26] <brophat> mneptok why apparently not?
[04:26] <misslecommander> chewd: yeah!
[04:26] <chewd> now im off to make peace in the mideast
[04:26] <Animortis> It's the bcm43xx driver.
[04:26] <bkar> Animortis-> are you two using the same ip address on same lan? you must only have one machine with that address...
[04:26] <AFarris01> so i reverted to esound, and now have no sound ata ll
[04:26] <atomdog2003> is it possible to "cd" into a samba share in the terminal?
[04:26] <anderswc> but it still gives the code without interpreting it
[04:26] <chewd> anybody want to go to mars with me tomorrow?
[04:27] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: And you say you compiled apache2?  Or did you install it from apt?
[04:27] <mneptok> brophat: because your httpd never responds
[04:27] <soldats> chewd, please keep to one line. im glad everything is working for you but this is for support mainly.
[04:27] <jackdaw> atomdog2003: if you do man samba you can find out about a whole ton of command line samba tools
[04:27] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: bingo
[04:27] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, I compiled it.
[04:27] <chewd> ok sorry
[04:27] <AFarris01> ive since ried reinstalling pulseaudio
[04:27] <anderswc> bingo?
[04:27] <brophat> mneptok why does it work for me?
[04:27] <mneptok> brophat: what is the IP address of the webserver?
[04:27] <AFarris01> but that did nothing
[04:27] <jackdaw> atomdog2003: i think the command is just smb ...
[04:27] <mneptok> brophat: because your behind your router
[04:27] <soldats> chewd, you might like ot
[04:27] <Animortis> bkar, It's via a wifi router. When this laptop ran windows, it worked fine. It's Ubuntu.
[04:27] <mneptok> *you're
[04:27] <chewd> you guys have been so helpful
[04:27] <misslecommander> AFarris01: is pulseaudio your soundcard, or one ubuntu put in it ? you can choose in System/Preferrences/Sound
[04:27] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: how does restarting it now look?
[04:27] <atomdog2003> jackdaw:  where are the samba volumes mounted by default?
[04:28] <ratfinkkeyton> anyone know why my computer won't work right with gutsy? the video is all screwy and blurry
[04:28] <soldats> :P we aim to please chewd
[04:28] <bazhang> !ot | chewd come in here :}
[04:28] <ubotu> chewd come in here :}: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:28] <ratfinkkeyton> I can switch the resolution down and it works
[04:28] <misslecommander> AFarris01: there is also a test for each part of the soundcard there as well
[04:28] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, it runs and I can request a php page, but it gives me the php code
[04:28] <bkar> Animortis-> you follow me? is the ip address assigned to yours (ubuntu) same as the ones assigned to your friends pc? when both of you are on at same time?
[04:28] <ratfinkkeyton> but who wants to use 640 by 480
[04:28] <jackdaw> atomdog2003: good question, sorry not sure
[04:28] <Animortis> bkar, No.
[04:28] <AFarris01> no, my sound card is labled as...CA0106.  i tried replacing the esound server with the pulseaudio sound server
[04:28] <soldats> ratfinkkeyton, look in screen resolutions
[04:29] <AFarris01> yeah, when i try to test them, i get no sound out of my speakers
[04:29] <ratfinkkeyton> what am I looking for
[04:29] <soldats> !resolution | ratfinkkeyton
[04:29] <ubotu> ratfinkkeyton: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:29] <misslecommander> AFarris01: does any of them work ?
[04:29] <AFarris01> but the volume monitor shows theres sound
[04:29] <AFarris01> no
[04:29] <bkar> Animortis write down the details of your results  ifconfig ;  route -n  and compare this settins to your friends settings
[04:29] <genii> adrock358: How goes the install so far?
[04:29] <AFarris01> actually some give errors
[04:29] <brophat> mneptok what is weird is i just did an ifconfig to get you the info you wanted, but now it gives me 74.186.120.21
[04:29] <misslecommander> AFarris01: i am no pro at linux, sorry
[04:29] <AFarris01> lemme get the error real fast
[04:29] <jackdaw> atomdog2003: i've always had a link come up on my desktop when it works, otherwise i think you can use the mount command to attach one wherever you like?
[04:29] <AFarris01> and paste it over
[04:29] <AFarris01> its ok
[04:29] <misslecommander> AFarris01: ok i will see what i may help you with
[04:29] <chipbuddy> !xorg.conf
[04:29] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:30] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: any complaints about not finding the module?
[04:30] <fr500_> chewd: did that work?
[04:30] <Animortis> bkar, I appreciate the help, I have to disconnect for personal reasons. Thanks anyway.
[04:30] <fr500_> i was afk
[04:30] <brophat> mneptok ifconfig used to give my the ip address assigned to me by my isp
[04:30] <ratfinkkeyton> what is easier to troubleshoot, my wireless or my screen resolution
[04:30] <compy> anyone know of a application where i can run windows
[04:30] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, no
[04:30] <compy> not cgwin its another name
[04:30] <ratfinkkeyton> I'm trying to get this ndiswrapper working but with no luck
[04:30] <fr500_> wine?
[04:30] <jackdaw> compy: a virtualisation?
[04:30] <ratfinkkeyton> and cant seem to get the driver working either
[04:30] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, because I changed the line in the httpd.conf to point to the right place
[04:30] <AFarris01> ok, if i try to test alsa sound capture i get this error: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[04:30] <compy> jackdaw, yaeh
[04:30] <AFarris01> anf the last jack of my sound card gives this:audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open resource for writing.
[04:31] <misslecommander> AFarris01: sound capture is for recording, does the playback work ?
[04:31] <soldats> ratfinkkeyton, im not well versed with ndiswrapper sorry. i just know more basic
[04:31] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> this is a new install?
[04:31] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: just making sure, in your /etc/apache2/mods-available directory, do you show php5.conf and php5.load?
[04:31] <AFarris01> playback gives the testing dialogue, but i hear no sound
[04:31] <atomdog2003> how do I watch a DVD movie on an ISO file?
[04:31] <roshan_> i thought my 8600 gt would work with 7.10, sadly it doesnt :(
[04:31] <ZionPsyfer> FWIW, installing apache from apt would have been a bit easier. ;)
[04:31] <AFarris01> autodetect gives no sound on any of the selections
[04:31] <jackdaw> compy: xen is one
[04:31] <ratfinkkeyton> long story short, I installed 7.04 and had wireless problems, I came to this channel and someone helped me get it running
[04:31] <bkar> atomdog2003-> is there line an avi inside that iso file?
[04:32] <compy> any others
[04:32] <misslecommander> AFarris01: it may not be compatible with linux.
[04:32] <bazhang> atomdog2003: plan on keeping it? then burn it to dvd
[04:32] <ratfinkkeyton> I upgraded to 7.10 and then my resolution went crazy
[04:32] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, both
[04:32] <atomdog2003> bkar:  ?
[04:32] <ratfinkkeyton> so I removed it and started over with 7.04
[04:32] <atomdog2003> bazhang: I don't want to burn it
[04:32] <ratfinkkeyton> and now cannot get my wireless working again
[04:32] <bkar> atomdog2003-> is there  an avi inside that iso file? i typed too many words
[04:32] <AFarris01> theres a driver for it on the alsa wiki though
[04:32] <misslecommander> AFarris01: give me exact name it gives you ? not the alsa one, the pulse one
[04:32] <ratfinkkeyton> if I upgrade to gutsy I can get connected but can't see anything
[04:32] <ratfinkkeyton> lol
[04:32] <AFarris01> where specifically?
[04:32] <atomdog2003> bkar:  no.  it is a dvd movie, you know, with a VIDEO_TS folder inside
[04:32] <zetheroo> anyone?
[04:33] <misslecommander> AFarris01: i am new to linux, so i think that part may be out of my league
[04:33] <zetheroo> I am using awn and I on accident right-clicked on a mounted drive in the stacker applet and told it to Hide. Now its gone ... how do I "unhide" it?
[04:33] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> so which do you have installed now?
[04:33] <ratfinkkeyton> 7.04
[04:33] <AFarris01> lol, im out of my own league
[04:33] <Jay-Oh-En> does anybody recomend me doing these? http://yoten.blogspot.com/2007/04/speed-up-ubuntu.html
[04:33] <ratfinkkeyton> so wireless is my problem
[04:33] <misslecommander> AFarris01: lol
[04:33] <bazhang> ratfinkkeyton: what video card and which driver
[04:33] <atomdog2003> bkar:  that would be too easy
[04:33] <ratfinkkeyton> what command do I type to find that out?
[04:33] <jackdaw> atomdog2003: trying to play it? use vlc
[04:33] <bkar> atomdog2003-> you can mount an iso, then ask your dvd player to that mount point and play the dvd
[04:33] <desertc> AFarris01: You can always back up /home and reinstall.  That's always an option.
[04:33] <misslecommander> AFarris01: does pc speaker work ? like beeping ?
[04:33] <bazhang> Jay-Oh-En: speed tweaks?
[04:33] <musikgoat> !brokenflash > musikgoat
[04:33] <misslecommander> !flash
[04:33] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:33] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[04:33] <atomdog2003> bkar:  how do you recomend mounting it?
[04:34] <badkitty> hellooo
[04:34] <Jay-Oh-En> bazhang, yes what ones are good i know that 1 is good but the rest ive heard the kernel knows how to do best
[04:34] <AFarris01> my system doesnt have a pc speaker
[04:34] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar: what command do I type to find out?
[04:34] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> you have to respond to me with a prefix of my  nick or I will miss your responses
[04:34] <misslecommander> AFarris01: lol
[04:34] <AFarris01> heh, sorry
[04:34] <bazhang> atomdog2003: video ts can be played with media players in ubuntu as well as vlc
[04:34] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar: ok understand
[04:34] <ghosTM55> badkitty, i'm coming! ;-)
[04:34] <atomdog2003> jacdaw:  tried that - VLS won't play it - I think I need to mount it - VLC for windows would have no problem though
[04:34] <AFarris01> i was kind of hoping i wouldnt have to reinstall
[04:34] <bkar> atomdog2003-> mount -o loop -t iso9660 /dev/cdomwheredvd  /mnt
[04:34] <Jay-Oh-En> bazhang, ive did #1 and #3
[04:34] <genii> Jay-Oh-En: I would not do steps 4 or 7 but the others are fine
[04:34] <misslecommander> AFarris01: i gotta laugh, i sit here, when it dies, i have to laugh, otherwise, i go crazy
[04:34] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: still checking some stuff.
[04:34] <bkar> atomdog2003-> then point your player to /mnt
[04:35] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar: just call me rat, save yourself the typing lol
[04:35] <AFarris01> yeah, i know what u mean
[04:35] <Jay-Oh-En> thanks genii
[04:35] <techno_freak> misslecommander, get the flash player from the adobe site, it works
[04:35] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> just another tab for me
[04:35] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar: what command do I type to find out what video card I have?
[04:35] <genii> Jay-Oh-En: np
[04:35] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, ok. I'm working on Calc so I'm not bored :)
[04:35] <badkitty> bkar: Yes, the tab is so useful
[04:35] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> dmesg; or lspci or lshw
[04:35] <misslecommander> AFarris01: give me exact name of your audio card, and is it an onboard audio, or a plug-in card ?
[04:35] <atomdog2003> bkar:  ok - I understand your angle - there is just one problem with that - the ISO is on a samba share
[04:36] <zcat[1]> techno_freak: actually it doesn't work so well; it lockes up for about two minutes at a time about every tenth youtube page, which is a PITA
[04:36] <unagi> how can i transfer ubuntu from one hard drive to the other?
[04:36] <techno_freak> zcat[1], no such problem on my side, i wonder... hmmm
[04:36] <misslecommander> AFarris01: i will do what i can, maybe google myself to death on it.
[04:36] <AFarris01> exact name: sound blaster audigy LS ...its a PCI card
[04:36] <bkar> atomdog2003-> still same, a file in smb that is iso, can be mounted over again to your mount point
[04:36] <AFarris01> lol
[04:36] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar: sudo ndiswrapper -l
[04:36] <ratfinkkeyton> lsrtnds : invalid driver!
[04:36] <ratfinkkeyton> lswl2nds : invalid driver!
[04:36] <ratfinkkeyton> lswlnds5 : invalid driver!
[04:36] <misslecommander> ok
[04:36] <atomdog2003> bkar:  in order to use the terminal to mount the ISO I first have to know where the ISO I have to refer to it with a path
[04:36] <AFarris01> i appreciate it
[04:36] <zcat[1]> not sure why but it's happening on three different machines here
[04:36] <Arbitrary> so the Acer Aspire 3050 can be upgraded to a Turion X2, no problem
[04:36] <misslecommander> ok
[04:36] <zcat[1]> including this one which is running hardy
[04:36] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar:  RTL8180L 802.11b
[04:37] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> i did not say anything about ndiswrapper
[04:37] <chapium> hey guys and gals, i need some network help.  lspci shows the nic, ifconfig shows a configuration.  I cannot ping the router and the router cannot ping the nic.  I've been banging my head on this one for a while :(
[04:37] <zcat[1]> techno_freak: you watch a lot of gootube clips?
[04:37] <AFarris01> its also got 24bit hd compatibility
[04:37] <zcat[1]> and/or liveleak
[04:37] <atomdog2003> bkar:  good - where is the file then?  I have the smb share connected - it shows up on my desktop - how do I get to it in the termain?
[04:37] <techno_freak> zcat[1], not lots, when some one points something to me
[04:37] <bkar> atomdog2003-> that you have to resolve first, where the iso is at
[04:37] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar: Realtek Semiconductor
[04:37] <Jay-Oh-En> genii, if i take silent out of my grub will i get the text scrolling on startup?
[04:37] <ratfinkkeyton> that is the card I have
[04:38] <badkitty> chapium: Do you have any other connetion to the router
[04:38] <atomdog2003> bkar:  the ISO is on a smb share - I have it connected
[04:38] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> you asked me about video not network card
[04:38] <chapium> badkitty: what do you mean?  the link lights are on, and the router is working for everything else
[04:38] <bkar> atomdog2003-> can you cd to that dir?
[04:38] <atomdog2003> I can look at it in the file browser - no problem
[04:38] <genii> Jay-Oh-En: Yes
[04:38] <atomdog2003> bkar:  what dir?  I don't know where to look
[04:38] <zcat[1]> techno_freak: it seems to happen mostly when I go through lots of pages with flash on all of them.. youtube, liveleak, mostly.. I think homestar did it a few times too
[04:38] <atomdog2003> bkar:  when I goto my Desktop I don't see it
[04:39] <fr500_> bkar: how did you connect to the share?
[04:39] <genii> Jay-Oh-En: Well "quiet" not"silent"
[04:39] <Jay-Oh-En> genii, thanks again
[04:39] <atomdog2003> bkar: but it shows up in the file browser there
[04:39] <strike> type mount it will show you where the share is mounted then use the whole path to the iso when mounting it
[04:39] <bkar> fr500-> its atomdog2003
[04:39] <ghosTM55> hello all , how can i make a link to my HOME folder on my Desktop under GNOME?
[04:39] <Jay-Oh-En> genii, thats what i meant
[04:39] <badkitty> chapium: but can you get in to the router and see if the device is actually connected to it; or more preciesely if the router is actually assigned the configuration given when yo type ifconfig
[04:39] <fr500_> ohh
[04:39] <atomdog2003> strike:  trying..
[04:39] <fr500_> atomdog2003: how did you connect to the share
[04:39] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar: I ran the dmesg command, what am I looking for
[04:39] <techno_freak> zcat[1], will check with others who watch a lot of gootubes
[04:39] <atomdog2003> fr500: with the file browser
[04:39] <chapium> badkitty: the router does not show the device
[04:39] <fr500_> i guess via connect to server on gnome
[04:39] <Jay-Oh-En> genii, so it should look like this kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=3a528faf-1b24-4529-a5b0-24595830a939 ro  splash
[04:39] <fr500_> ok
[04:40] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> dmesg|grep video  something like that
[04:40] <fr500_> atomdog2003: what do you wanna do with the iso?
[04:40] <zcat[1]> as usual, the software that causes me the most grief is non-free :)
[04:40] <chapium> badkitty:  I attempted to assign an ip the the nic's mac address, but they still cant see each other
[04:40] <atomdog2003> fr500: mount it - so I can play the movie - it is a movie dvd
[04:40] <badkitty> chapium: Ok so perhaps when you type if config, the IP address is set as a static
[04:40] <zcat[1]> I had major issues with the nvidia drivers a while back too :)
[04:40] <unagi> how can i transfer ubuntu from one hard drive to the other?
[04:40] <roshan_> zcat[1]: what graphics card do u have?
[04:40] <atomdog2003> strike:  when I type mount, I don't see it come up
[04:40] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar: sudo dmesg | grep video
[04:40] <ratfinkkeyton> [   17.530724] Boot video device is 0000:01:05.0
[04:40] <badkitty> zcat[1]: Really, I never had a problem with the nvidia drivers, the horrors have always been on the ati side
[04:40] <fr500_> atomdog2003: what do you wanna do with the iso?
[04:41] <unagi> !xd
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <jackdaw> unagi: this might not be very easy. might be safer to backup your home directory and reinstall linux on the new disk
[04:41] <ghosTM55> %B hello all , how can i make a link to my HOME folder on my Desktop under GNOME?
[04:41] <strike> it should be the only one mounted with smbfs
[04:41] <jackdaw> unagi: depending on what you mean by "transfer"
[04:41] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  I want to play a movie off of it - it is a movie dvd
[04:41] <unagi> theres more to my installation than just the home dir =
[04:41] <unagi> =(
[04:41] <joeamined> unagi, i thnik you have to write in the MBR too to get it recognized
[04:41] <jackdaw> ghostTM55: ln -S ~ ~/Desktop
[04:41] <joeamined> think
[04:41] <fr500_> atomdog2003: let me explain
[04:41] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> well along those lines, you should see where what video you have, or again lspci or lshw...try these two
[04:41] <chapium> badkitty: i think i got it
[04:41] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  please
[04:41] <badkitty> chapium: let me kow
[04:41] <ghosTM55> jackdaw: thx , i'll try
[04:41] <chapium> badkitty: thanks for your help
[04:41] <badkitty> chapium: sure thing
[04:41] <misslecommander> AFarris01: you still there ?
[04:41] <fr500_> atomdog2003: i guess you want to mount the ISO like it was possible in windows with daemon tools for instance
[04:42] <DVS01> hi
[04:42] <zcat[1]> roshan_: Can't recall.. fairly old stuff.. the main problem was that I tried nvidia's installer one time and didn't remove it cleanly.. after that, every kernel upgrade would break the drivers, even after I moved back to using the nvidia-glx package.
[04:42] <jackdaw> unagi: you need to look at settign up grub and things, once you've moved the physical files, so linux knows where to boot from
[04:42] <DVS01> my compiz fusion's cube rotation seems to be bugged.  when i press ctrl+alt+(left or right), it skips desktops. it goes from 1 to 3
[04:42] <atomdog2003> fr500_: exactly!
[04:42] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: I just tried installing apache2, php5, libapache2-mod-php5 from apt, and it appears to work.  Dumb questions, but are you sure that the php code begins with <? and ends with ?> ?  does it have the .php extension?
[04:42] <AFarris01> yep
[04:42] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar: PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc PCI Bridge [IGP 340M]
[04:42] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  VLC doesn't even need that software - it just knows what to do - on windows that is
[04:42] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, yep
[04:42] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar:  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[04:42] <fr500_> atomdog2003: now, you are accessing the SMB share via gnome-vfs, it is a virtual file system only accessible via gnome-vfs enabled applications
[04:42] <unagi> jackdaw: so what if i copied partitions over too
[04:42] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> i have to answer this phone call..be back later..sorry
[04:42] <misslecommander> AFarris01: sofar one thing in common was mistaken the card wasnt playing sounds. the short fix is to check your sound levels, make sure they arent set all the way down
[04:42] <bazhang> DVS01: the #compiz-fusion channel can help you out there
[04:42] <roshan_> zcat[1]: ah, i'm using a really new graphics card, and i'm having horrible difficulty in getting it working with the restricted drivers
[04:43] <strike> if you mount it as udf or maybe cdfs it should act the same as a real dvd
[04:43] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, when I go to the url of the php page with firefox, it tries to open it with gedit
[04:43] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  how can I access it in VLC?  or is there an easier app to use that can access virtual fs?
[04:43] <fr500_> strike: no
[04:43] <misslecommander> AFarris01: you see the volume control top-right of screen, double-click it make sure they are up
[04:43] <ratfinkkeyton> anyone else? either wireless setup help or resolution help?
[04:43] <fr500_> atomdog2003: in order to "mount" the dvd iso like you did on windows you need first to mount the share so the share is accesible systemwide
[04:44] <zcat[1]> roshan_: I set up an 8800 card for a guy the other day.. was a bit tricky, can't recall exactly what I had to do, but we got it working in the end.. nvidia-glx-new wasn't 'new' enough for it :)
[04:44] <strike> i was assuming he had access to the share when he mounted it
[04:44] <AFarris01> ok, i just added every single device it listed
[04:44] <AFarris01> and maxed all volumes
[04:44] <fr500_> strike: he has, but only with gnome-vfs
[04:44] <badkitty> ratfinkkeyton: Ask the question again
[04:44] <aldo> spam irc.rizon.net with server address irc.hydroblunt.net
[04:44] <misslecommander> AFarris01: that new computer ?
[04:44] <fr500_> atomdog2003: it would be easier to just copy the ISO to the desktop
[04:44] <fr500_> atomdog2003: but i can guide you if you want
[04:44] <misslecommander> you do have the speakers connected to the back right ?
[04:44] <AFarris01> relatively
[04:44] <strike> connect to server? that should give him access
[04:44] <roshan_> zcat[1]: was he getting an error such as "no input signal go to power save" before u fixed the problem?
[04:45] <ratfinkkeyton> badkitty: all I need is either help with my wireless card or help with my screen resolution
[04:45] <fr500_> strike: but only access via gnome-vfs, VLC doesnt do gnome-vfs
[04:45] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Everything looks good for you.  the php5.load file in /etc/apache2/mods-available points to the right path of libphp5.so, correct?  php5.conf has .php as one of the extentions on the AddType line, right?
[04:45] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  bumber
[04:45] <strike> is the share mounted or not?
[04:45] <zcat[1]> roshan_: nah, it just kept booting into the 640x480 'your drivers are busted' vesa X server
[04:45] <AFarris01> i built it myself earlier this year
[04:45] <badkitty> ratfinkkeyton: Wireless; things just worked for me . what version are you running? For resolution have you tried to reconfigure X?
[04:45] <AFarris01> why do u ask?
[04:45] <ratfinkkeyton> badkitty: if I upgrade to 7.10, I have resolution problems, if I use 7.04 I have wireless issues. I've had wireless working before on 7.04 though
[04:45] <fr500_> strike: but mounted in gnome, not systemwide
[04:45] <misslecommander> ok, googlin tell ya if i find anything. seems to be they changed the alsa drvier,
[04:46] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, yep it does
[04:46] <fr500_> strike: so only gnome-vfs aware apps can access it
[04:46] <ratfinkkeyton> badkitty: how do I reconfigure X?
[04:46] <fr500_> alas, it's not mounted with "mount"
[04:46] <daya> ** WARNING **: alsa_setup_mixer(): Failed to find mixer element: PCM
[04:46] <daya> , what is this error
[04:46] <daya> I got while running xmms, I am using pulseaudio
[04:46] <atomdog2003> strike: the share is mounted via gnome virtual fs
[04:46] <fr500_> atomdog2003: so what you wanna do
[04:46] <roshan_> zcat[1]: ah, what i'm getting is this no input power save error right after the splash screen. i've looked at the forums but no solution has been posted as far as i saw :(
[04:46] <strike> doesnt sound like its mounted at all
[04:46] <rdz11> I'm running a gnome session on enlightenment, it's a laptop computer, but I don't remember after what update my computer does not detect the battery anymore
[04:46] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer ,now that I have synaptics working should I try uninstalling apache and php and start over?
[04:46] <ghosTM55> badkitty: i have sth to do right now , see u later
[04:47] <fr500_> strike: the connect to server item does not mount your shares
[04:47] <badkitty> ghosTM55: Ok man sorry I had to change pcs
[04:47] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Let's try one more thing before we go through the trouble.  run this in a term: 'sudo a2enmod php5'
[04:47] <strike> are you sure
[04:47] <fr500_> i am
[04:47] <nickrud> fr500_: you can play gnome-vfs stuff with totem
[04:47] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  what he said - I guess I need to use mount?
[04:47] <ghosTM55> badkitty: ;-)
[04:47] <atomdog2003> nickrud:  totem?
[04:47] <fr500_> nickrud: yes but totem does not open ISO files
[04:47] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: If not, yea, let's install apache from apt rather than compiling it.
[04:47] <chump> is there a reason why torrents don't work on ubuntu out of the box is it being blocked by firewall?
[04:47] <atomdog2003> nickrud:  I need something that plays ISOs like VLC
[04:48] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, it says "This module is already enabled"
[04:48] <nickrud> fr500: ah, missed that part, the iso thing
[04:48] <badkitty> ratfinkkeyton: Its something like sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.org.. hang on lemme check
[04:48] <Puddle> Howdy; I want to format my slave drive and use it for data storage with access via both windows and linux; Am I right that NTFS is not writeable by linux, but fat32 is?
[04:48] <badkitty> (Im in vista right now on the ol ladies lappy
[04:48] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  okay - I guess I need to use mount on the smb share instead of gnome
[04:48] <strike> no
[04:48] <fr500_> atomdog2003: yes you do
[04:48] <nickrud> Puddle: you can write with ntfs-3g , but vfat is a conservative choice
[04:48] <strike> ntfs-3g gives read and write access to any user
[04:48] <badkitty> ratfinkkeyton: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:49] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  will do that then - thanks for the help
[04:49] <fr500_> atomdog2003: fist, open up a terminal
[04:49] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  yeah?
[04:49] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  terminal open
[04:49] <Puddle> there's a difference between ntfs-3g and ntfs, right? Like right now it was formatted with NTFS and I can't do anything with it but read
[04:49] <fr500_> then: sudo apt-get install smbfs
[04:49] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: One last stupid question before we do a reinstall. ( just covering all the bases ) the php file is in your webroot directory right?
[04:49] <strike> use ntfs it will let you use files over 4gig
[04:50] <nickrud> Puddle4: the file system stays the same, you use a different driver, one that can write, to access the ntfs file system
[04:50] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, yeah, htdocs
[04:50] <atomdog2003> fr500_: done
[04:50] <strike> that is the biggest pain with fat32
[04:50] <uav> hello
[04:50] <badkitty> anderswc: Just butting in, was all the php modules added in when you did the install?
[04:51] <AFarris01> anybody else willing to help with a sound problem? all my info is here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4157039#post4157039) and ill be more than happy to repeat anything here
[04:51] <Puddle4> mmk, thanks
[04:51] <fr500_> now, atomdog2003: make a directory, with mkdir
[04:51] <anderswc> badkitty, what do you mean
[04:51] <ZionPsyfer> badkitty: Thinking not.
[04:51] <desertc> AFarris01: Haven't you been receiving help here?
[04:51] <nickrud> !nfts-3g | Puddle4 (you changed your nick, I would have put this up sooner)
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nfts-3g - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <atomdog2003> fr500_: ok
[04:51] <badkitty> anderswc: I forget exactly how to do it, but there is a command that adds in the module that activates the parsing of .php files in your webserver
[04:51] <nickrud> !ntfs-3g | Puddle4 (you changed your nick, I would have put this up sooner)
[04:51] <ubotu> Puddle4 (you changed your nick, I would have put this up sooner): ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:52] <AFarris01> i have, but so far we havent come up with any solutions
[04:52] <badkitty> anderswc: If you don't do this, it will not parse php files
[04:52] <broken> So I just finished installing ubuntu now I'm at the login screen and I can't move my mouse or type anything..
[04:52] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: There's a flag --enable-so that needs to be set if you want to load .so's.
[04:52] <strike> you dont need to know much just install it and mount your partition with it simple as
[04:52] <broken> I am using a laptop.
[04:52] <nickrud> badkitty: libapache2-mod-php5 ?
[04:52] <AFarris01> i was hoping maybe add more ideas maybe help
[04:52] <fr500_> atomdog2003: smbmount //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword
[04:52] <desertc> AFarris01: Sounded like you were saying you hadn't, when I've seen people helping you for an hour.
[04:53] <badkitty> nickrud: That could be it.. Im still noobish myself, I followed some tutorials to make sure I had everything running correctly
[04:53] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, where do I put the flag?
[04:53] <rdz11> I'm running a gnome session on enlightenment, it's a laptop computer, but I don't remember after what update does not detect the battery anymore. I get the following error message "Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket! Make sure the ACPI subsystem is working and the acpid daemon is running." Anyone?
[04:53] <desertc> AFarris01: Next time, maybe don't rip out the sound system.
[04:53] <anderswc> do I need it when I install?
[04:53] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: It needs to be done when you call ./configure
[04:53] <AFarris01> lol...yeah...
[04:53] <AngryElf> how do I kill my X server?
[04:53] <desertc> AFarris01: As I said, there is always the option to reinstall after you backup /home -- sounds like you just installed, so why not?
[04:53] <AFarris01> i was hoping to get some more functionality
[04:53] <nickrud> badkitty: I install apache2 , libapache2-mod-php5 php5 mysql-server-5.0 for drupal, seems to work every thime
[04:54] <fr500_> ctrl alt bkspace AngryElf
[04:54] <Cromag> thats restart
[04:54] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: Are you compiling it yourself?
[04:54] <AngryElf> fr500_: not restart, kill
[04:54] <Archangel144>  I'm having sound card issues with my Acer 3050,  anyone have any tips.
[04:54] <AFarris01> well ive actualyl had the installation up for a few weeks
[04:54] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: if I wanted to compile the stuff, I'd run gentoo :)
[04:54] <AngryElf> and dont tell me gdm stop, cause that isn't working either
[04:54] <fr500_> AngryElf: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:54] <AFarris01> it was just recently this sound thign happened
[04:54] <desertc> AFarris01: Would a clean install really be less time than you spent in here trying to troubleshoot?
[04:54] <badkitty> nickrud: You like drupal over Joomla? ... *sigh*
[04:54] <AngryElf> fr500_: and dont tell me gdm stop, cause that isn't working either
[04:54] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: Well anderswc compiled apache from source.
[04:54] <fr500_> AngryElf: woops, killall xorg?
[04:54] <AFarris01> probly...i just had huge probs last time trying to get my graphics card to work
[04:54] <zcat[1]> sudo kill -9 X xinit
[04:55] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: then he should be asking for help on #apache
[04:55] <AFarris01> and even if i did a clean install, i still wouldnt have full sound
[04:55] <desertc> AFarris01: You should have those steps documented anyway, because you'll have to do them again when you upgrade, most likely.
[04:55] <AngryElf> fr500_: fr500_ zcat[1] no and no
[04:55] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: He did it because universe wasn't enabled in his sources, so he installed it that way.
[04:55] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar: you there?
[04:55] <ratfinkkeyton> badkitty: you there?
[04:55] <anderswc> nickrud, I didn't have synaptics set up right so i couldn't see the right packages.
[04:55] <nickrud> badkitty: I'm considering a change, but I maintain one really big site and don't look forward to the work ;(
[04:55] <badkitty> ratfinkkeyton: Yes I am whats up?
[04:55] <AFarris01> oh i have then documented
[04:55] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  timeout connecting to 192.168.1.30:445
[04:55] <bkar> not yet. am still on phone
[04:55] <zcat[1]> something like that.. ps x and killa anything that looks like an X server :)
[04:55] <Guren> hi, got a question, is there an ubuntu app that works like Alcohol 120% in making iso dvd images?
[04:55] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Alright, you still have the folder with the source that you compiled from?
[04:55] <AFarris01> and im probably gonna end up doing a clean wipe
[04:56] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: anderswc then you should run the make uninstall in the apache source dir and switch :)
[04:56] <Trae> how can I see what kde desjktop system I have installed?  I want to remove it from my system.
[04:56] <fr500_> atomdog2003: can you paste the command here?
[04:56] <NewUbuntuFan> Guren, have you tried K3b?
[04:56] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, yeah
[04:56] <roshan_> has anyone experienced the no input signal go to power save error
[04:56] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: Exactly where we're going right now. =)
[04:56] <Trae> is it kde-desktop ?
[04:56] <desertc> AFarris01: You might only have sound in one speaker after your reinstall, but at least you'll have your system in a state where someone can help you troubleshoot.  Right now, you've done so much tweaking and gutting of the system, that it's hard to help you.
[04:56] <ratfinkkeyton> badkitty: put this in the back of your mind... for wireless issues that I described earlier, the fix so far is modprobe
[04:56] <chewd> okay stupid question... noatun is a media player for KDE... does that mean i cant run it in Gnome?  or does that mean it just wont run as well in gnome?
[04:56] <badkitty> nickrud: Joomla is awesome man ... i recall drupal being way harder to set up and it didn't seem to have the support or addons
[04:56] <Guren> NewUbuntuFan, I have k3b but I don't see where i can make an iso
[04:56] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  not with my password...   hang on...
[04:56] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: alright, go in to that folder and type 'make uninstall'
[04:56] <ZionPsyfer> sudo before it
[04:56] <fr500_> chewd: no
[04:56] <anderswc> ok
[04:56] <ratfinkkeyton> badkitty: I now see the wireless networks but can't connect
[04:56] <AFarris01> true enough...i apologize for that
[04:56] <ratfinkkeyton> badkitty: I'm almost there
[04:56] <chewd> wont run huh?
[04:56] <DG19075> Guren, another app to try is Brasero
[04:56] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> okay am back..where we again?
[04:57] <Cpudan80> chewd: It means it uses KDE libraries, if you download it through apt-get, it will pull out the correct packages
[04:57] <fr500_> chewd: it will run
[04:57] <Guren> thanks
[04:57] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: oh, and do a 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop'
[04:57] <roshan_> is there another channel strictly based on drivers?
[04:57] <atomdog2003> fr500_: smbmount //zim/Movies2 mount -o username=un,password=pw
[04:57] <badkitty> ratfinkkeyton: Are the secured?
[04:57] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar: I now have my wireless functioning but I can't connect to any networks
[04:57] <Cpudan80> chewd: I have found that KDE apps generally dont run very well in GNOME - because of KDE's dreaded DCOP server
[04:57] <nickrud> badkitty: It's the only one I'd played around with when I was asked to set up a cms fast. But now we want more flexibility
[04:57] <chewd> oh okay
[04:57] <AFarris01> i guess a fresh install is the way to go then probly...
[04:57] <fr500_> atomdog2003: you are missing destination
[04:57] <badkitty> nickrud: Do Joomla, I can even help if you want
[04:57] <ratfinkkeyton> badkitty: no they are mine and they are set to alow specific MAC ID's but mine is in that list
[04:57] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> okay lets do some testing, iwconfig    does it show its being associated?
[04:58] <chewd> totem is kinda feature-poor, anybody care to suggest a good video player?
[04:58] <nickrud> badkitty: do you know a content conversion utility? A few thousand pages :)
[04:58] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  the dirname?
[04:58] <fr500_> smbmount //zim/movies /durectoryyoucreated!! -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword
[04:58] <badkitty> ratfinkkeyton: So no encryption, just only allow certain MAC's .. got it
[04:58] <nickrud> badkitty: that's the only bottleneck we have right now
[04:58] <JohnRobert> chewd: mplayer
[04:58] <chewd> thanks
[04:58] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, It says "No rule for target 'uninstall'. Stop"
[04:58] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  the dir name is mount
[04:58] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar: badkitty: not associated, that is correct
[04:58] <JohnRobert> chewd: or xine
[04:58] <fr500_> ohhh
[04:58] <badkitty> nickrud: To convert dupal pages to joomla?
[04:59] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: try 'make remove'
[04:59] <DG19075> or VLC
[04:59] <JohnRobert> try 'em all
[04:59] <JohnRobert> find which you like best
[04:59] <Trae> sorry if someone said something I couldn't ready it my colors were messed up
[04:59] <fr500_> is 192.168.1.30 the ip address the other pc's IP?
[04:59] <chewd> which one gives you more power over the gui?
[04:59] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  yes
[04:59] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> do a  iwlist wlan0 scan   can it scan yours and your neighbors essid's ?
[04:59] <netou> chewd: mplayer is the best
[04:59] <Trae> I'm trying to completely remove KDE from my system.  how would I go about that and fall back to just Gnome?
[04:59] <zcat[1]> vlc is nice.. it handles dvd menus, and plays .iso files of dvd's . not sure if any of the others do..
[04:59] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, that doesn't work either
[04:59] <fr500_> atomdog2003: it should work
[04:59] <chewd> maybe ill just install em both & see
[04:59] <badkitty> ratfinkkeyton: Hmm dunno... I usually jet mine to WPA and leave SSID unbroadcasted
[04:59] <tracey> spam irc.rizon.net with server address irc.hydroblunt.net
[05:00] <nickrud> badkitty: yup :)  I really don't want to delve that deeply into the backends, I'm hoping someone has done most of the work already. And I haven't done any looking yet. My boss and I just started kicking the idea around this week
[05:00] <fr500_> can you press alt-f2 and type smb://zim/Movies2 ?
[05:00] <Trae> !kde
[05:00] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[05:00] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  maybe port 445 isn't forwarded
[05:00] <netou> chewd: vlc can flash videos, dunno if mplayer can do it, but its good to install both video players
[05:00] <badkitty> nickrud: You should try looking on the joomla addons page, they just may have something there
[05:00] <fr500_> if it mounted via file browser it has to work
[05:00] <zcat[1]> I think mplayer plays flv's as well..
[05:00] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: alright, open the Makefile in gedit and search for the word uninstall. We'll see if there's a directive in there.
[05:01] <Guren> ok K3B does the job
[05:01] <badkitty> nickrud: What type of website do you run
[05:01] <nickrud> badkitty: I certainly hope so. I don't look forward to dumping tables and massaging them
[05:01] <chewd> i just wanna be able to change things like, scroll wheel does volume...
[05:01] <fr500_> atomdog2003: can you press alt-f2 and type smb://zim/Movies2 ?
[05:01] <Guren> just needed to pick copy dvd ... i'm a dummy
[05:01] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar: I can see it but cannot connect
[05:01] <fr500_> chewd: xine-ui
[05:01] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  that worked
[05:01] <zcat[1]> does xine do all of the menus and stuff too?
[05:01] <chewd> i like a very configurable ui
[05:01] <hanophix33> can someone help me getting my desktop effects enabled?
[05:01] <fr500_> try again the command then it should work
[05:01] <chewd> like zoomplayer is in the windows world
[05:02] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Or we can do it the dirty way.
[05:02] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> can you try disabling the wep/wpa or mac filtering whatever and see if you can connect?
[05:02] <nickrud> badkitty: the last time I did any serious sql was in the 80's with rbase . My aging brain rebels at relearning all that stuff
[05:02] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, I tried searching "uninstall" in it and found nothing.
[05:02] <badkitty> ratfinkkeyton: Is it possible to try to connect to a different router?
[05:02] <anderswc> maybe the dirty way is the way to go
[05:02] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  timeout connecting to 192.168.1.30:445
[05:03] <badkitty> nickrud: I haven't even messed with db much at all .. so dont feel bad
[05:03] <fr500_> meh how weird
[05:03] <nickrud> zcat[1]: yes, totem-xine gets menus into totem as well
[05:03] <haymaker> anyone got any preference for a desktop widgets app?  I've got gdesklets right now, any idea on where I can get more desklets?
[05:03] <fr500_> atomdog2003: sudo mount -t smbfs //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword
[05:03] <nickrud> hanophix33: depends on what type of video card you have
[05:03] <badkitty> nickrud: I do believe phpmyadmin is my friend
[05:03] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  should i try another port?
[05:03] <ratfinkkeyton> badkitty: bkar: attempting to connect to other wireless router with no security
[05:03] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: No problem, we'll do it the dirty way.  run a 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop' first to make sure it's killed, then 'sudo rm -rf /usr/local/apache2' (assuming that's where you installed it.  That's the default install location from source)
[05:04] <nickrud> badkitty: yeah, that and mysql-admin and browser are good for not getting into nitty gritty
[05:04] <fr500_> atomdog2003: no, 445 is the SMB port and you can't change that
[05:04] <hanophix33> can someone help me getting my desktop effects enabled?
[05:04] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  weird
[05:04] <fr500_> hanophix33: join #ubuntu-effects
[05:04] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: you might want him to run a find as well, Just In Case
[05:05] <badkitty> nickrud: Yep.
[05:05] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: agreed.
[05:05] <fr500_> atomdog2003: try sudo mount -t smbfs //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword
[05:05] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: do a 'which apache2' and a 'sudo find / -name apache2 -print | less'  verify.
[05:06] <Jay-Oh-En> if i wanted to make the text scrolling on startup just be under my splash screen how would i do that in grub i deleted quiet but it shows white text before the splash screen but then it does what i want with the text under the splash screen would i add quiet or silent or something?
[05:06] <fr500_> Jay-Oh-En: cant do that
[05:06] <nickrud> Jay-Oh-En: quiet turns off the kernel messages
[05:06] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  timeout connecting to 192.168.1.30:445
[05:07] <Jay-Oh-En> like this kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=3a528faf-1b24-4529-a5b0-24595830a939 ro quiet  splash or kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=3a528faf-1b24-4529-a5b0-24595830a939 ro silent  splash or kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=3a528faf-1b24-4529-a5b0-24595830a939 ro splash
[05:07] <aboo0ood> hi everybody,
[05:07] <badkitty> hi
[05:07] <fr500_> atomdog2003: hmm when you did the alt-f2 thingy, did it ask for a user and pass?
[05:07] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  i think the port is different thru gnome
[05:07] <fr500_> atomdog2003: no
[05:07] <atomdog2003> fr500_: no
[05:07] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, those printed a lot of things.
[05:07] <anderswc> do I need to delete all those?
[05:07] <Jay-Oh-En> fr500, nickrud, look at my last post
[05:07] <fr500_> atomdog2003: mount -t smbfs //servername/sharename /mountdirectory
[05:07] <badkitty> Who was the guy who had the resolution problem
[05:08] <fr500_> Jay-Oh-En: won't work, you can't have the text below the splash, usplash doesnt feature that
[05:08] <nickrud> Jay-Oh-En: I'm not sure what text you're talking about.  ro quiet splash is the default, just puts up the splash screen with the rolling colored ok messages
[05:08] <badkitty> ratfinkkeyton: did the screen resolution thing work
[05:08] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Alright, take note of the paths of those files.  Are they in /usr/local  ?  You will see some in /etc/ for certain.  We will get those after.  We're looking for /usr/bin/ and /usr/local/bin entries.
[05:08] <anderswc> ok
[05:09] <Jay-Oh-En> nickrud, thats what i meant "splash screen with the rolling colored ok messages"
[05:09] <anderswc> copied the paths to gedit
[05:09] <Jay-Oh-En> nickrud, how do i do that
[05:09] <anderswc> looks like etc/init.d,
[05:09] <Gyrodog> hey how do I get to the xorg.conf in the terminal
[05:09] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: You will probably see some in /usr/lib and/or   /usr/local/lib.  Those need to be removed as well.
[05:09] <fr500_> Jay-Oh-En: you can't with ubuntu's usplash
[05:10] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: maybe you could have him put the results of the find up on pastebin, you could look it over and if it's selective enough have the find rm {}
[05:10] <badkitty> Gyrodog: /etc/X11
[05:10] <Jay-Oh-En> Jay-Oh-En, ive did it before
[05:10] <ZionPsyfer> nod
[05:10] <badkitty> Gyrodog: I think
[05:10] <atomdog2003> fr500_: timeout connecting to 192.168.1.30:445
[05:10] <fr500_> atomdog2003: man.... no clue
[05:10] <Jay-Oh-En> fr500, ive did it before
[05:10] <fr500_> that is weird
[05:10] <Gyrodog> no thats not it
[05:10] <fr500_> let me test
[05:10] <fr500_> Jay-Oh-En: on Gutsy?
[05:10] <Gyrodog> I want to edit my xorg in the terminal screen
[05:10] <nickrud> Jay-Oh-En: I have that splash screen turned off, I like all the messages in text so I'm not experienced with usplash
[05:10] <Jay-Oh-En> fr500, yep in kubuntu
[05:10] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Let's follow nickrud's advice.  take the results of that find and put them up on pastebin.
[05:11] <badkitty> Gyrodog: Sorry Im in Vista... Ol lady wont let me install ubuntu on her lappy and too lazy to go get the live cd and reboot
[05:11] <badkitty> Gyrodog: U sure, make sure the x is CAPITOLIZED
[05:11] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: I'm not familiar enough with apache's libs, etc to say what's supposed to be there. So take my advice advisedly
[05:11] <Jay-Oh-En> nickrud, i meant i want the text like the splash screen and the text under it with scrolling ok messages
[05:11] <fr500_> atomdog2003: what is your IP address?
[05:11] <Gyrodog> it ain't
[05:12] <fr500_> Jay-Oh-En: i think it's not possible, it was on hoary i think
[05:12] <nickrud> fr500_: gutsy's splash dropped the scrolling colored ok text?
[05:12] <fr500_> but not now
[05:12] <Rubin> hrm. where do i tell ubuntu to hibernate when the battery runs out instead of going down hard?
[05:12] <Gyrodog> I wanna get to the editor and do it all from the terminal
[05:12] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: Aye, it's a good idea though, and safer.
[05:12] <Jay-Oh-En> nickrud, ive had it done before if that doesnt work im going to be mad
[05:12] <noelferreira> hi need to run a script with sudo option. But i don't want it to ask me for the sudo password. what should i do?
[05:12] <w00t`> hi
[05:12] <fr500_> nickrud: there is no text on the splash screen now, hasn't been any since feisty or something
[05:13] <nickrud> fr500_: and here I thought it was my machine :)
[05:13] <badkitty> Gyrodog: Are you in a terminal yet?
[05:13] <bkar> noelferreira-> run it in cron ?
[05:13] <fr500_> nickrud: it was like that when they used splashy i think, looooooong ago, splash screen
[05:13] <Jay-Oh-En> fr500, you dont know what your talking about cause i just did it two seconds ago but i got the list with white text before it
[05:13] <Gyrodog> yes I am in the terminal
[05:13] <noelferreira> no bkar
[05:13] <adrock358> genii you still here?
[05:13] <nickrud> Rubin: system->prefs->screensaver , power options button
[05:13] <bkar> noelferreira-> i meant run it in cron
[05:13] <Rubin> screensaver? lol
[05:13] <noelferreira> i'll have it as a icon bkar
[05:14] <fr500_> you mean splash screen plus scrolling text, like at the same time right Jay-Oh-En
[05:14] <bazhang> Jay-Oh-En: do you have usplash?
[05:14] <joel_> bkar: badkitty: this is ratfink, now joel
[05:14] <Jay-Oh-En> fr500, yes
[05:14] <badkitty> Gyrodog: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:14] <AngryElf> after a successful nvidia driver install I can start GDM just fine, but when i reboot, it fails to load -- any ideas why?
[05:14] <fr500_> Jay-Oh-En: older version?
[05:14] <joel_> problem remains after booting
[05:14] <Jay-Oh-En> bazhang, yeah
[05:14] <fr500_> atomdog2003: works here
[05:14] <chewd> okay... how do i kill an app?
[05:14] <Gyrodog> thats wut I want thank you
[05:14] <Rubin> thanks nickrud
[05:14] <noelferreira> bkar, i want to create a launcher with the script but i don't want to use gksudo
[05:14] <chewd> totem wont come out of fullscreen
[05:14] <Jay-Oh-En> fr500, nope i just installed off the gutsy disk
[05:14] <fr500_> atomdog2003: are you on the same subnet
[05:14] <badkitty> Ok joel
[05:14] <nickrud> Rubin: yw (scrolls back to see what he did right)
[05:14] <JAL1> chewd: killall
[05:14] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, ok, I purged my system of apache2 :D
[05:14] <JAL1> killall app
[05:15] <fr500_> Jay-Oh-En: sorry i might be wrong, i just dont know
[05:15] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  yeah
[05:15] <chewd> in console i presume?
[05:15] <JAL1> yes
[05:15] <w00t`> right now i'm using ubuntu but i can't see other window machine in our network? my machine connected to internet thru network.
[05:15] <adrock358> Genii!!!!!!!
[05:15] <fr500_> atomdog2003: can you disable any firewall on the windows computer just for testing purpose?
[05:15] <chewd> how do i get konsole up without access to the menu bar?
[05:15] <w00t`> any idea?
[05:15] <adrock358> Ok, I need some help
[05:15] <bazhang> w00t`: you want to share files/folders?
[05:15] <w00t`> if i use livecd it shows window machines
[05:15] <JAL1> chewd, lol wheres the menu bar ?
[05:15] <w00t`> bazhang,  no
[05:16] <chewd> behind totem
[05:16] <nickrud> chewd: #kubuntu has better help for kde, usually
[05:16] <chewd> totem wont come out of fullscreen
[05:16] <w00t`> just want to see/browse windows machine
[05:16] <adrock358> I can use my wireless off Live CD and not installed.  Anybody?
[05:16] <fr500_> w00t`: go to system, administration, sharing services and install samba thry there
[05:16] <Gyrodog> I can't get my visual effects to work thats y I wanted to get into the xorg I tried the composite on 0 and 1 still don't work my ati card is installed corectlly
[05:16] <JAL1> chewd, did you tried pressing the "F"
[05:16] <nickrud> chewd: oh, ctl-alt-f2, log in, and type pkill totem
[05:16] <w00t`> fr500, its installed :)
[05:16] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  I'll try that - I gotta go right now - thx for the help
[05:16] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Alright, are the files in /etc/apache2 and the /etc/init.d/apache2 file gone?
[05:16] <bkar> adrock358-> you want to have access to wireless in liveCD? it is very possible
[05:16] <bazhang> w00t`: listen to fr500_
[05:16] <fr500_> atomdog2003: np
[05:16] <nickrud> chewd: ctl-alt-f7 to get back
[05:16] <w00t`> bazhang, its installed
[05:17] <anderswc> yeah, i did the sudo find again and nothing came up
[05:17] <chewd> pressing F... or double clicked... either of which should bring totem out of rullscreen doesnt work
[05:17] <Shadow147> Gyrodog I think you may have to disable it
[05:17] <chewd> it goes right back to fullscreen
[05:17] <adrock358> bkar, nah.................when i use livecd my wireless conn works.  after install, it doesn't
[05:17] <fr500_> w00t`: then set you workgrup to be the same as on windows pcs
[05:17] <w00t`> supposed to be i can see after install
[05:17] <bazhang> w00t`: ntfs-3g then
[05:17] <chewd> only goes windowed for a an instant
[05:17] <w00t`> bazhang, not that
[05:17] <bkar> adrock358-> is the os installed now?
[05:17] <patogen> @@@3
[05:17] <chewd> i think maybe its confused by my dual-display
[05:17] <NetMan-> hi people
[05:17] <nickrud> chewd: have you run totem with sudo?
[05:17] <Rubin> chewd, try alt-f2
[05:17] <w00t`> fr500,  its the same
[05:17] <fr500_> ntfs-3g doesnt have to do anything with samba
[05:17] <patogen> How come I canÃ¤t connect to my NFS share from OS X?
[05:17] <bazhang> w00t`: no idea then what you are looking for sorry
[05:17] <Gyrodog> I just remembered there is a file I got to d/l
[05:17] <Rubin> chewd, if that doesnt work, ctrl-alt-f1 and login on a virtual terminal
[05:18] <patogen> Works poerfectly fine from ubuntu ...
[05:18] <nickrud> chewd: never mind the sudo comment, you are probably on the right track
[05:18] <adrock358> genii was helpin me.  some reason he pointed me here: http://www.cs278.org/blog/ubuntu-configuration/feisty-debootstrap-encrypted-install/.  i'm half way through, just need help at this one part
[05:18] <fr500_> w00t`: you want to access computers on the same LAN like on windows right? like shared folders?
[05:18] <w00t`> bazhang, when i use livecd i can browse window machine....
[05:18] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Alright, 'apt-get install apache2'   followed by an 'apt-get --reinstall php5' and a 'apt-get --reinstall install libapache2-mod-php5'
[05:18] <Hkittysmoothie> is there a standalone app for ubuntu that can act as a replacement for the system tray?
[05:18] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, ok
[05:18] <w00t`> fr500, yes
[05:18] <ZionPsyfer> gah
[05:18] <adrock358> yeah, os is installed now
[05:18] <patogen> Hkittysmoothie: alltray
[05:18] <badkitty> anderswc: hang on
[05:18] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc:  'apt-get --reinstall install php5'
[05:18] <fr500_> w00t`: can you ping the other pc?
[05:19] <w00t`> fr500, yes i can
[05:19] <adrock358> patogen. what with name?
[05:19]  * ZionPsyfer goes to get another cup of java.
[05:19] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: if he deleted the /etc/apache2 directory, he'll have to purge libapache2-mod-php5 to get back the php5.conf & load
[05:19] <w00t`> its just i cant see them, so i can browse
[05:19] <patogen> adrock358: Hmm what with name?
[05:19] <bkar> adrock358-> which part are you getting stuck? btw you need to prefix my nick on your responses to me, messages flying and will miss yours
[05:19] <chapium> can anyone help?  I have 3 harddrives and a cdrom connected to an ubuntu system.  However, I cannot figure out what one of the harddrives is called to mount it
[05:19] <Hkittysmoothie> patogen: No, I mean something that is a *replacement* for the system tray thing on the gnome panel
[05:19] <patogen> Hkittysmoothie: Oh sorry, dont know then
[05:19] <johnny_> hi,  i'm having some trouble with my volume applet, it  doesn't show up in the "Add to Panel" list
[05:19] <Rubin> Hkittysmoothie, you want the gnome tray without gnome?
[05:19] <johnny_> i've tried reinstalling it
[05:20] <johnny_> no dice so far
[05:20] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: --reinstall install should cover that, correct?
[05:20] <w00t`> i think it happen when i update my pc
[05:20] <Rubin> Hkittysmoothie, other window managers have their own thing.. like window maker has its own way of doing that with little dock apps.
[05:20] <KyMc1985> Hi all, just trying to install Ubuntu 6.06 but I keep getting this: "[17179569.388000] Code:  Bad EIP value." then: "[17179569.388000] <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill the idle task!"
[05:20] <johnny_> also found a suggestion to change the icon theme
[05:20] <badkitty> anderswc: take a look at this http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_debian_lamp_server
[05:20] <johnny_> no dice with that
[05:20] <Rubin> KyMc1985, why such an old release?
[05:20] <olddude67> chapium, what type of drives ide or sata?
[05:20] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: no, dpkg assumes that a conffile in /etc is missing because the sysadmin did it on purpose, so it won't put it back
[05:20] <w00t`> is this a BUG?
[05:20] <w00t`> i read some issue
[05:20] <KyMc1985> takes too long to download a copy or to get it shipped lol
[05:20] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, Yeah, I figured that one out :)
[05:21] <Hkittysmoothie> Rubin: So can I use an standalone app as a replacement for the gnome tray?
[05:21] <Ellement> help i cant install the xorg-driver-fglrx package. can anyone help me plz
[05:21] <Rubin> Hkittysmoothie, not that i know of, no.
[05:21] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: That's good to know.  Thank you. =)
[05:21] <Rubin> KyMc1985, tried googling that error?
[05:21] <adrock358> yeah i figured that much bkar, just wasn't completely sure I guess.  welll i need to mount the rooy, but not mounted the way they show.  i need to mount it, but not using dev mapp
[05:21] <KyMc1985> waiting for it to load
[05:21] <badkitty> Ellement: Why not?
[05:21] <anderswc> ok, installs done. now should it work (once I start it)?
[05:22] <Hkittysmoothie> Rubin, then is there a way to change the background color of the system tray (I'm using it on AWN, if that helps)?
[05:22] <adrock358> patogen, just wondering the name.  what is the significance to you of 'patogen'?  I am merely curious.
[05:22] <fr500_> can you try alt-f2 then smb://ipofotherpc?
[05:22] <chapium> olddude67: the drives from my knowledge are ide, however they are showing up as sda, sdb, etc.  This is an old pentium 3 system
[05:22] <badkitty> anderswc: Could help to view this page http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_debian_lamp_server
[05:22] <Ellement> keeps saying break (install)
[05:22] <Ellement> badkitty: keeps saying break (install)
[05:22] <Rubin> Hkittysmoothie, right click the panel its on, select properties.. change to background tab.
[05:22] <olddude67> chapium, version of ubuntu are you running?
[05:23] <nickrud> chapium: that's a new scheme controlled by libata, and it also has to do with the new UUID scheme in fstab and menu.lst. There's a link in the next factoid
[05:23] <badkitty> Ellement: Hmmm.. All the repositories enabled and everything?
[05:23] <Hkittysmoothie> Rubin, I've gotten rid of the panel, that's why I need the color to work with my awn theme.
[05:23] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Let's try it for the heck of it.  I have a feeling we'll have to do the purge (if you didn't).
[05:23] <nickrud> !libata | chapium
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libata - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <w00t`> fr500, is that for me
[05:23] <fr500_> yes
[05:23] <olddude67> chapium, cause the will go in order sda first drive and so on.
[05:23] <nickrud> !uuid | chapium (um, second factoid :)
[05:23] <ubotu> chapium (um, second factoid :): To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[05:23] <Rubin> Hkittysmoothie, dunno, sorry.
[05:23] <Ellement> badkitty: i'm currently in adept manager, how can i check if all repositiories are enabled?
[05:23] <Jay-Oh-En> nickrud, i got it to work but i get the black screen with the grey text before the splash screen with scrolling ok's
[05:23] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, looks like it got put in a different place than before ...
[05:23] <w00t`> fr500, error
[05:24] <chewd> yow... note to self.. never run totem in fullscreen... the only way out is a hard-reboot
[05:24] <Hkittysmoothie> Rubin, Allrighty, thanks anyway.
[05:24] <w00t`> fr500, Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: ipofotherpc".
[05:24] <nickrud> Jay-Oh-En: yeah, I like that :)  you need quiet I guess
[05:24] <KyMc1985> Only thing I could see is about PNP in the BIOS, trying a command "linux nobiospnp"
[05:24] <anderswc> cause /usr/local/apache2/ doesn't exist
[05:24] <Jay-Oh-En> nickrud, i dont like it like that i just want the scrolling oks
[05:24] <misslecommander> can someone tell me if this is a good way to backup, just incase i need to use recovery mode ? -> cp -R /etc /home/recovery/etc
[05:24] <Rubin> KyMc1985, this error happens during bootup? or later?
[05:25] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Yes, the apt package installs in a different path.
[05:25] <Jay-Oh-En> nickrud, i dont like it like that i just want the scrolling oks with the splash screen**
[05:25] <Rubin> misslecommander, i think that should work well
[05:25] <nickrud> Jay-Oh-En: like I said, I prefer all the text, so I disabled usplash and don't know much about it
[05:25] <fr500_> w00t`: hehe you had to type the ip of the other pc instead
[05:25] <Rubin> misslecommander, you can do -a instead, to preserve links..
[05:25] <badkitty> Ellement: I'm in vista so Im not too much use at the moment, what I would do is a google search to see what repo's are needed, then go into the sources manager and see if the correct ones are enabled
[05:25] <misslecommander> Rubin: thank you
[05:25] <albert_kam> Hi people. Have you experienced this before : the usb disks got detected and worked fine, and suddenly after a few weeks, the usb disks dont get detected anymore, but in windows with the same pc and the same usb disks, they went fine. I tried fdisk -l, but no usb devices are detected. What can possibly go wrong ?
[05:25] <Ellement> badkitty: i have multiverse, universe and restricted checked
[05:25] <anderswc> hmm, where is it?
[05:25] <w00t`> :)
[05:25] <adrock358> bkar.   yeah i figured that much, just wasn't completely sure I guess.  welll i need to mount the rooy, but not mounted the way they show.  i need to mount it, but not using dev mapp
[05:25] <SpudDogg> Has anyone else tried to play a Mr Woodcock DVD in ubuntu?  Seems to be some new encryption on there or something...Anyone have some insight?
[05:25] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Are you looking for your webroot?
[05:25] <KyMc1985> Rubin: It happens while just loading the CD to install it.
[05:26] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: /var/www/
[05:26] <badkitty> SpudDogg you have libdvdcss2?
[05:26] <fr500_> SpudDogg: i dont think so, meybe another zone
[05:26] <anderswc> ahh
[05:26] <Rubin> KyMc1985, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=629973
[05:26] <SpudDogg> badkitty: yea...any other dvd i've tried has been fine
[05:26] <Rubin> KyMc1985, is that a 64bit system?
[05:27] <NoelJB> albert_kam: if you tail the logs when attaching/removing, do you see anything USB related?
[05:27] <SpudDogg> fr500_: wouldn't the player ask me what zone?
[05:27] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, and how do I start apache?
[05:27] <w00t`> fr500, i see the shared docs
[05:27]  * jdh6403 yawns
[05:27] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[05:27] <nickrud> SpudDogg: I've heard that the new chris rock/jackie chan dvd has the same problem
[05:27] <albert_kam> NoelJB : i tried tail -f /var/log/messages, nothing suspicious. to be precise, nothing happens.
[05:27] <SpudDogg> nickrud: no solution yet?
[05:27] <fr500_> SpudDogg: you can't change zones many times
[05:27] <badkitty> Ellement: Did you google to see if any extra reos are needed?
[05:27] <NoelJB> albert_kam: Gutsy?
[05:27] <johnny_> i'm trying to re add the volume control
[05:27] <johnny_> but it is totally gone
[05:27] <johnny_> every other applet is there
[05:28] <chewd> aw crap now my network is broken again
[05:28] <johnny_> just not thatone
[05:28] <johnny_> it makes no sense
[05:28] <KyMc1985> Rubin: nope, x86
[05:28] <adrock358> Can anybody help me out with this? http://www.cs278.org/blog/ubuntu-configuration/feisty-debootstrap-encrypted-install/
[05:28] <w00t`> but i dont want to try that one by one :)
[05:28] <nickrud> SpudDogg: no, I haven't. Probably a new version of libdvdcss2 will appear some day
[05:28] <fr500_> SpudDogg: you can change 4 times on a cd-writer
[05:28] <Rubin> KyMc1985, could be a bad disk you got, or a hardware problem.. or just some incompatability. I think its prolly worth getting a 7.10 disc.. a LOT has changed in the last year.
[05:28] <chewd> so much for my batting avg
[05:28] <fr500_> w00t`: ???
[05:28] <adrock358> I am using debootstrapper
[05:28] <fr500_> w00t`: try this sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[05:28] <w00t`> fr500, i see the shared docs on the other computer
[05:28] <fr500_> and try browsing again
[05:28] <SpudDogg> nickrud: are you familiar with anydvd for winblows?
[05:28] <johnny_> adrock358,gusty comes with encrypted
[05:28] <johnny_> just use that
[05:28] <KyMc1985> Rubin: The code went from Bad EIP value to a whole lot of hex: 5f 5d c3 8d b4 26 00 00 00 00 85 c9 75 dc a1 98 75 33 c0 89 85 30 01 00 00 8b 1c 24 83 c3 7c 8d 55 08 8b 4d 08 8b 42 04 89 41 04 <89> 08 8b 0c 24 8b 41 7c 89 50 04 89 45 08 89 5a 04 89 51 7c eb
[05:28] <johnny_> it was very easy to setup on the alternative cd
[05:29] <w00t`> fr500, i did that after installing the samba :) .... but gonna try it again :)
[05:29] <badkitty> SpudDogg: gasp not ANYDVD I hate that cunnning fox
[05:29] <albert_kam> NoelJB: actually i'm just asking for my friend, he's using opensuse 9.2 .. i think you people are very active here, so i ask in this channel, sorry :p
[05:29] <misslecommander> sudo cp -R /etc /home/username/recovery/etc(to backup) and sudo cp -R /home/username/recovery/etc /etc(to recover) ??
[05:29] <fr500_> w00t`: I'd make sure workgroup is the same
[05:29] <Rubin> KyMc1985, theres a lot you could try but i dont think its worth anyones time to debug 1+ year old kernel .. the bug prolly was fixed a long time ago
[05:29] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, /etc/init.d/apache2 doesn't exist!
[05:29] <KyMc1985> must likely lol
[05:29] <adrock358> well genii said that since my wireless works with livecd and not with the installed ububtu that i need to run debootstrapper.ignore all the decypted stuff
[05:30] <adrock358> johnny_previous post
[05:30] <w00t`> fr500, now it stop/start smb
[05:30] <fr500_> w00t`: you can see the workgroup by running sudo testparm
[05:30] <NoelJB> albert_kam: I can't help you with SuSE.  I've jokingly sung that "If you knew SuSE like I know SuSE, you'd never use SuSE again"
[05:30] <nickrud> SpudDogg: I do my best not to be familiar with anything on windows, and pretty successfully :)
[05:30] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer: this look good ->> sudo cp -R /etc /home/username/recovery/etc(to backup) and sudo cp -R /home/username/recovery/etc /etc(to recover) ??
[05:30] <Rubin> misslecommander, use -a instead of -R you get more fully preserved results
[05:31] <albert_kam> NoelJB: haha .. i thought this problem is something unrelated with distributions. Thanks anyway ..
[05:31] <misslecommander> Rubin: ok
[05:31] <adrock358> does anybody know anything about this?  my wireless works with livecd but not when installed
[05:31] <Shadow147> NoelJB I never used suse before but I prefer ubuntu
[05:31] <KyMc1985> whats the proper size of the 7.10 disc (MB wize)
[05:31] <adrock358> i was told to go here http://www.cs278.org/blog/ubuntu-configuration/feisty-debootstrap-encrypted-install/
[05:31] <misslecommander> adrocks358: mine works when it wants :)
[05:31] <Shadow147> about 685MB
[05:31] <SpudDogg> nickrud: i don't blame you...
[05:31] <NoelJB> albert_kam: no worries. I can say that I've not seen that problem with Feisty or Gutsy, and have had USB drives mounted on a server for months on end.
[05:31] <albert_kam> NoelJB: Anyway, could i ask, what have you found wrong in suse ? I'm just curious ..
[05:31] <badkitty> KyMc1985: Just do an Md5 checksum
[05:32] <chewd> adrock: maybe youre running into what i just did... the install doesnt put samba on by default
[05:32] <KyMc1985> a wha?
[05:32] <Shadow147> KyMc1985 about 685MB or closer
[05:32] <adrock358> ha ha that's funny.  but i've been doing this all day.  i just need it done
[05:32] <sdakak> i am looking at themes. what are the differences between gtk 1.x, 2.x. metacity and compiz themes on gnome-look.org?
[05:32] <w00t`> fr500, i did that testparm, but i cant see any workgroup there
[05:32] <badkitty> KyMc1985: Are you trying to make sure the file you downloaded is uncorrupted?
[05:32] <misslecommander> adrocks358: if it works with LiveCD it should work without it. i know what you mean, took me 3 days to get my wireless working right
[05:32] <w00t`> workgroup name
[05:32] <KyMc1985> badkitty: yes, just to make sure, used a download manager. trying not to use too many cds lol
[05:32] <Shadow147> most likely it was a bad burn
[05:32] <albert_kam> Actually i've been using suse for around 4 years now, and i've just ordered 5 dvds of ubuntu 7.1, and i'm gonna try it at my homestay .. :p
[05:33] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Heh, nickrud is correct then.  'sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2'  do that to php5 and libapache2-mod-php5
[05:33] <w00t`> only the server string...
[05:33] <Rubin> sdakak, compiz is the newfangled 3d crazyness. metacity is the gnome window manager by default.. and gtk is the toolkit that gtk based apps use to draw widgets (buttons and stuff)
[05:33] <fr500_> w00t`: it says press any key, and just after that it appears
[05:33] <crdlb> sdakak: ignore the 'compiz' themes, they are misnamed and shouldn't even be on that site anymore, 'metacity' thmes are the default window border themes, and gtk2 themes theme the contents of gnome apps
[05:33] <chewd> so, does ubuntu have an equivalent of the windows task manager?
[05:33] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: then install all of them.  Fresh and clean
[05:33] <Shadow147> badkitty most likly it was a bad burn
[05:33] <w00t`> fr500, there is
[05:33] <NoelJB> adrock358: no clue, but I'll add a datapoint for you.  I had a similar situation last year with feisty, where the live boot worked, the install failed.  I didn't have time to track it down, so I finally installed RH on that particular old legacy box.
[05:33] <misslecommander> adrocks358: i will make a URL you can look at, in what i did to get it working if you want
[05:33] <fr500_> chewd: gnome-system-monitor
[05:33] <johnny_> chewd, System monitor
[05:33] <badkitty> KyMc1985: http://losrivas21.blogspot.com/2006/04/how-to-verify-md5-checksum-of-ubuntu.html
[05:33] <chewd> ahh
[05:33] <fr500_> or top :d
[05:33] <Rubin> chewd, open a terminal, us the 'ps' command to see processes, and 'kill' to stop them.
[05:33] <chewd> is there a hotkey for it?
[05:33] <johnny_> uggh...
[05:33] <johnny_> htop is great
[05:33] <johnny_> on the cli
[05:33] <slliness> can someone pls point me to the ps3 live disc as I need it badly to fix a system and I already dled the wrong one. I am assuming that the gusty version is broken as well?
[05:34] <sdakak> Rubin: crdlb: lets talk gtk do i need 1.x or 2.x?
[05:34] <johnny_>  better than top.. especially for multi cpu
[05:34] <misslecommander> just let me back this up while its working and i will see if what i have helps
[05:34] <chewd> well the problem i had.. i couldnt open a terminal window.. no access to the menus
[05:34] <Rubin> sdakak, 2
[05:34] <chewd> program was stuck in fullscreen
[05:34] <johnny_> uggh
[05:34] <Shadow147> badkitty I have had bad burns plenty of time he should reduce his burning to the speed the cd can handle
[05:34] <chewd> which is why i needed to kill it
[05:34] <johnny_> where did the applet go..
[05:34] <fr500_> w00t`: is the workgroup the same?
[05:34] <w00t`> fr500, do i need to change in service definitions?
[05:34] <soldats> chewd, do ctrl+alt+F(key)
[05:34] <sdakak> Rubin: crdlb: talking about metacity, if i download a metacity theme would that also theme my gtk apps?
[05:34] <Rubin> chewd, alt-f2 usually gets you a 'run' prompt.. then you could type 'gnome-terminal' in it to get a text console...
[05:34] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander: The backup works, but I'd never cp -R the whole dir back.  Just copy back the config file that's giving you trouble.
[05:34] <Rubin> sdakak, unknown
[05:34] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: one more thing: purging apache2 won't do the trick, you have to purge the packages that apache2 installs.  dpkg -l '*apache* | grep ^ii gives you a list
[05:35] <badkitty> Shadow147: Did he mention having problems? I thought he wanted to test before he had problems cause hes short on discs
[05:35] <sdakak> Rubin: crdlb: i cant make out the difference between gtk and metacity themes. could you elaborate?
[05:35] <w00t`> fr500, i cant see any workgroup name as same the window machine
[05:35] <crdlb> sdakak: metacity themes theme the titlebars only
[05:35] <adrock358> misslecommander.  i know but it won't!  i'm going crazy man!  didn't even go to work today!!!!!!  and it's not done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I don't know how too get it to work this pretty knowledgeable guy said install with debootstrapper.  it sounded like a good idea, but he told me to mount the root without dev mapper.  i don't know anything about linux...i just installed it and haven't written a line of cod in my life.  But I LOVE it
[05:35] <chewd> yea i did ctrl-alt-f2  i think it was... took me to fullscreen console... i couldnt figure out how to get back out
[05:35] <chewd> ended up hitting hardware reset
[05:35] <Rubin> sdakak, metacity is the window manager. gtk is the toolkit
[05:35] <w00t`> but when i look thru windows i can see this ubuntu machine
[05:35] <fr500_> w00t`: hmmm
[05:35] <misslecommander> adrock358: hang in there, be back soon
[05:35] <Rubin> sdakak, each type would affect differnt aspects of the gui
[05:35] <fr500_> w00t`: try sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:35] <Shadow147> badkitty well I have had a similar problem with another user awhile ago
[05:35] <badkitty> chewd ctrl-alt f7 i believe
[05:35] <NoelJB> chewd: "back out"?  Back to the GUI?  CTRL-ALT-F7
[05:36] <sdakak> Rubin: crdlb: lets talk in lay mans terms. tell me the effects of theming a toolking 'gtk'. i get the metacity part.
[05:36] <Jacob> hey all whats upso I am very new to linux...downloading cd now
[05:36] <chewd> ahh
[05:36] <fr500_> w00t`: there should be a line that says workgroup, what does it say
[05:36]  * chewd writes that down
[05:36] <Rubin> sdakak, theming gtk changes how buttons look, etc
[05:36] <Shadow147> Jscob good
[05:36] <Rubin> sdakak, best way to understand is just to try some.
[05:36] <sdakak> Rubin: crdlb: buttons and?
[05:36] <misslecommander> rubin: shoot, i forget the switch you said is better than -R
[05:36] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, Ok, I purged and reinstalled everything.
[05:36] <badkitty> Hi jacob
[05:36] <NoelJB> chewd: you have different consoles.  console 7 is setup with your window manager.
[05:36] <Rubin> misslecommander, -a .  you can use 'man cp' to read about all the options.
[05:36] <sdakak> Rubin: i tried. but would like a little info.
[05:36] <nickrud> sdakak: gtk2 themes everything inside the window borders.  gtk1 is obsolete, but a couple of apps still use it. It also themes the stuff inside the window borders
[05:36] <Jacob> hi bad kitty
[05:36] <Rubin> sdakak, im no theme expert. i like the default ubuntu look
[05:36] <adrock358> misslecommander.  ok, go for it, but this guy had me on the right track.  i think he's right.  i just have to finish this guide.  getting impatient., but i have to get this done
[05:36] <chewd> ahh
[05:37] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: you don't think purging apache won't cause an install to recreate /etc/init.d/apache2?   He had compiled it in the first place before he used apt.
[05:37] <misslecommander> Rubin: thats small letter a right ?
[05:37] <Jacob> whats up so I have no idea what i am doing
[05:37] <NoelJB> chewd: do a Google search for linux virtual terminal
[05:37] <w00t`> fr500,  workgroup=workgroup
[05:37] <chewd> so i shouldve done ctrl-alt-f7    then i wouldve gotten a windowed console?
[05:37] <Rubin> misslecommander, yes. short for archive
[05:37] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: And, what's the verdict on the /etc/init.d/apache2?
[05:37] <sdakak> Rubin: nickrud: gtk = inside windows change -- buttons and?
[05:37] <Jacob> my main concern is having an internet connection once I am done installing
[05:37] <Shadow147> Jacob ok when you do your burn make sure to set your burner to the speed that your cd can handle I think using a higher speed may cause aproblems
[05:37] <chewd> whereas f2 gets you fullscreen?
[05:37] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, still not there :(
[05:37] <Rubin> sdakak, everything..
[05:37] <Jacob> thanks
[05:37] <Rubin> sdakak, its up to programs though.. theres no science to it
[05:37] <Jacob> jacob writes down
[05:37] <misslecommander> adrock358: these guys have way more experieince than me, i will just give u what i had to go through, and maybe something may help, be back
[05:38] <badkitty> Jacob, you can always dual boot, or even test out the OS before you install it
[05:38] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Alright, thanks for being patient.  =)  I'm learning a bunch here too.
[05:38] <anderswc> lol
[05:38] <Shadow147> Jacob what do you use to connect to the net and ethernet card?
[05:38] <adrock358> misslecommander, wait
[05:38] <chewd> pressing ctrl-alt-f7 now... getting nothing
[05:38] <Jacob> wireless but I can use ethernet
[05:38] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: So all the packages listed with dpkg -l need to be purged, correct?
[05:38] <adrock358> don't worry about it, i'll just ask someone else misslecommander
[05:38] <badkitty> chewd: No ctrl -alt-f7 take you back in window..
[05:38] <NoelJB> chewd: CTRL-ALT-Fn gets you to terminal N.
[05:38] <Rubin> chewd, you need to learn about linux virtual terminals
[05:38] <chewd> ooooooh
[05:38] <chewd> okay
[05:38] <fr500_> w00t`: ok, now on the windows PC
[05:38] <Rubin> chewd, go google it a bit
[05:38] <chewd> yes i do
[05:38] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, BTW this is the command I used to install "apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5"
[05:38] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: the stuff that goes into /etc/apache2 is provided by apache2-common . And apache2 isn't really the web server, it installs one of apache2-mpm-event , apache2-mpm-prefork, or apache2-worker . prefork is the preferred one, if you don't specify
[05:38] <adrock358> misscommander, do you know how to mount a root?
[05:39] <fr500_> w00t`: can you tell me what is the workgroup?
[05:39] <NoelJB> linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/02/determine-virtual-terminal-you-are.html
[05:39] <anderswc> in case I messed something up...
[05:39] <Shadow147> Jacob I would suggest use ethernet until you can get your wireless setup
[05:39]  * chewd is an old hand at dos
[05:39] <Rubin> chewd, its a basic seriously important aspect of any linux system.
[05:39] <Jacob> noted
[05:39] <fr500_> w00t`: by default it's mshome
[05:39] <adrock358> misslecommander, do you know how to mount a root?
[05:39] <chewd> yea i gathered
[05:39] <Jacob> then I can get help if i NEED TO
[05:39] <badkitty> chewd go to applications accessories terminal?
[05:39] <w00t`> yes there is mshome
[05:39]  * KyMc1985 has to download the ISO file once again, wrong checksums... hurrah.
[05:39] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: Gotcha, so common is getting us.
[05:39] <chewd> seet
[05:39] <nickrud> sdakak: yes
[05:39] <chewd> er sweet
[05:39] <Jacob> willI eventually learn the commands?
[05:39] <adrock358> does anyone know how to mount a root?
[05:39] <chewd> well i gotta go to bed
[05:39] <chewd> thanks for your help
[05:39] <badkitty> Jacob: It is very likely you will ned help
[05:40] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: another useful command is   dpkg -L <packagename> , it lists the files in the package.
[05:40] <Rubin> adrock358, root is mounted automatically during boot
[05:40] <Jacob> thats what I fugured which led me here
[05:40] <w00t`> fr500,  we have 3 diff workgroup name
[05:40] <Jacob> lol
[05:40] <Shadow147> Jacob once you installed the the OS go to terminal in Applications> Accessories
[05:40] <badkitty> Jacob: If you made it this far, you will do just fine
[05:40] <w00t`> fr500,  the default "mshome, 1, 3 "
[05:40] <Shadow147> Jacob and type in the terminal sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:40] <sdakak> nickrud: now tell me are compiz themes = emerald?
[05:40] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc:  run this  and note the package names.  dpkg -l '*apache*' | grep ^ii
[05:41] <adrock358> rubin check this guidehttp://www.cs278.org/blog/ubuntu-configuration/feisty-debootstrap-encrypted-install/    see step five.  i was told i'm not supposed to use dev mapp, but do it "normally"
[05:41] <badkitty> emerald is a theme manager
[05:41] <Rubin> sdakak, i think emerald is one sorta sub-piece of compiz
[05:41] <misslecommander> whew! all backed up, just incase something goes awry
[05:41] <NoelJB> chewd: for example, right now I am updating Hardy.  There will be a new kernel and some other things.  I will need to redo my video driver.  When I reboot, I will use CTRL-ALT-F2 to go to a separate terminal, stop the display manager, install the new video driver via a script, and then rehe GDM.start t
[05:41] <RyanPrior> Both VLC and Totem suddenly started playing videos wrong just now. Instead of picture, it just shows a bunch of colored vertical lines. Sound comes out fine.
[05:41] <nickrud> sdakak: emerald a window border decorator
[05:41] <Shadow147> Jacob this will install xchat and u will be able to get back on to contact us
[05:41] <Rubin> adrock358, i dont understand
[05:41] <misslecommander> adrock358: you on fiesty ?
[05:41] <Jacob> shadow147: wil do
[05:41] <adrock358>  well, see step five rubin?
[05:42] <sdakak> Rubin: nickrud: i use ubuntu 7.10 (i think that uses compiz-fusion) so if i want to theme my window borders do i use emerald (compiz themes), metacity themes or beryl themes?
[05:42] <Rubin> adrock358, i do see it, but i dont get what it is
[05:42] <Jacob> as long as I canconnect
[05:42] <Jacob> lol
[05:42] <adrock358> misscommander i installe gutsy fresh
[05:42] <sdakak> Rubin: nickrud: can we use beryl themes at all in compiz-fusion?
[05:42] <fr500_> w00t`: three workgroups on a LAN?, well, try changing the line that says workgrup=workgroup to workgroup=mshome and then restart samba again
[05:42] <misslecommander> oh ok
[05:42] <Rubin> sdakak, 7.10 can use compiz or metacity depending on the settings
[05:42] <nickrud> sdakak: you can use metacity themes, but most people choose to use emerald
[05:42] <adrock358> ahhhh.  it's installing debootstrapper.  i know less than you my friend.  thank you though.
[05:42] <w00t`> fr500, ok i'll do that
[05:42] <sdakak> Rubin: nickrud: can i use beryl themes?
[05:42] <Jacob> thanks for all your help are you both on her often
[05:42] <misslecommander> adrock358: let me prepare a URL in pastebin, way too much to say in here. just from my short experience
[05:42] <nickrud> sdakak: the beryl project is dead, but the emerald decorator it used is now used with compiz
[05:42] <crdlb> nickrud: most is probably a bit of an exaggeration ;)
[05:42] <Rubin> adrock358, iv used debootstrap before.. i dont understand what /dev/mapper is
[05:43] <Jacob> I am new to xchatas well
[05:43] <anderswc> ZionPysfer, there are 5 packages
[05:43] <nickrud> crdlb: I use it, and I am legion :)
[05:43] <RyanPrior> Both VLC and Totem suddenly started playing videos wrong just now. Instead of picture, it just shows a bunch of colored vertical lines. Sound comes out fine. How do I fix that?
[05:43] <sdakak> Rubin: nickrud: if 'emerald' is the name given to original beryl themes (is that correct?) than what are compiz themes called?
[05:43] <netou> RyanPrior:  that is weird because vlc uses its own video decoders
[05:43] <netou> RyanPrior: try using mplayer
[05:43] <Shadow147> Jacobjust make sure to have your ethernet cable plugged before installation and it will automatically setup your internet to your either net cable
[05:43] <RyanPrior> netou: Right, so as soon as Totem started getting out of whack I tried VLC, but same deal.
[05:43] <badkitty> Jacob: Any IRC chat client is fine, You can even use chatzilla or the default one that comes with pidgin
[05:43] <Shadow147> Jacob just make sure to have your ethernet cable plugged before installation and it will automatically setup your internet to your either net cable
[05:43] <nickrud> crdlb: off topic a bit, is the fact that I have to use emerald --replace to apply theme modifications just me?
[05:43] <Max_->  Hi, I'm actually on the LiveCD and trying to install... I've read somewhere that RAID were easy to setup on installation, ... now I can't see how to do this, my RAID partitions are not recognized and I can't set them back to raid partitions either.. what's wrong?
[05:43] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: K, take note of those.  I'm testing it on my system before I have you do this.
[05:43] <adrock358> hmm well do you understand the guide rubin?  all i have to do is install gutsy with debootstrapper.  that's what i was told.  and that should solve my wireless problems.  my problem was that my wireless works in live cd but not after i install
[05:44] <Rubin> RyanPrior, maybe a video driver problem.
[05:44] <slliness> can someone pls point me to the ps3 live disc as I need it badly to fix a system and I already dled the wrong one. I am assuming that the gusty version is broken as well?
[05:44] <Rubin> RyanPrior, they both probably use 'xv' to draw to the screen
[05:44] <nickrud> sdakak: emerald, it was carried over when beryl merged back with compiz to create compiz-fusion
[05:44] <RyanPrior> Rubin: It happened just now, though. I played one movie and it was fine, then it broke on the next one.
[05:44] <crdlb> nickrud: that is normal in Xgl (the way ubuntu starts it) due to a bug in emerald
[05:44] <Rubin> RyanPrior, try rebooting
[05:44] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Alright, this worked on my system.
[05:44] <sdakak> Rubin: nickrud: so compiz themes = emerald?
[05:44] <Jacob> ok
[05:44] <RyanPrior> Rubin: So I rebooted to see if that would fix it, and no dice,.
[05:44] <nickrud> crdlb: thanks
[05:44] <nickrud> sdakak: yes
[05:44] <Rubin> RyanPrior, weird..
[05:44] <Shadow147> Jacob badkitty true but xchat comes with ubuntu server preconfigured
[05:44] <nano__> I'm in need of help, cant get connected to the internet (neither wired nor wireless)
[05:44] <sdakak> nickrud: and beryl themes = ?
[05:44] <evw2k> i need some help
[05:44] <Jacob> is there a way to like book mark you so I can find you later?
[05:44] <Rubin> RyanPrior, what did you change?
[05:44] <netou> RyanPrior: change the video output to gl in vlc
[05:45] <adrock358> rubin dev mapper is a way to mount the drive.  i was told i need to mount it, just not with dev mapp
[05:45] <RyanPrior> Rubin: nothing. I was just watching movies and browsing the 'net.
[05:45] <Jacob> on this chat client
[05:45] <nickrud> sdakak: = dead
[05:45] <fr500_> w00t`: let me know if it works
[05:45] <Shadow147> Jacob not tat I know of
[05:45] <Rubin> adrock358, told by who?
[05:45] <Jacob> ok well look out forme
[05:45] <Jacob> lol
[05:45] <w00t`> fr500, now i did change the workgroup
[05:45] <Rubin> RyanPrior, try powering the system fully off for like 10 seconds and starting it up. maybe the video card is in a bad state
[05:45] <w00t`> and restart
[05:45] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, so what do you want me to do?
[05:46] <fr500_> w00t`: now try to browse
[05:46] <RyanPrior> netou: How do I turn output to gl?
[05:46] <w00t`> fr500, still dont show window machine :(
[05:46] <Shadow147> Jacob just follow the promts durning install and you will do just fine
[05:46] <Shadow147> Jacob prompts*
[05:46] <evw2k> so i created a 5 gig partition in windows xp using magicpartition, then used live cd to get onto ubuntu. Now whenever I get to the partition part of the installation it doesn't recognize that partition. In partition editor the partition has a lock symbol next to it. How do I unlock it? It's in ntfs format.
[05:46] <sdakak> nickrud: if i want to use compiz themes, than what would i have to do? i installed emerald-theme-manager and got one of the compiz themes from gnome-look. i didn't know how to disable metacity themes and enable the emerald theme. so i just did a reboot and now i have the emerald theme on. now if i want metacity back what do i do? (how do we easily change between the two?). i opened emerald-theme-manager and deleted my only emerald theme and did a reboot.
[05:46] <adrock358> then i need to follow the rest of the guide, but ignore all the encryption stuff.  i'm not going to lie rubin, if i get this working i will be very, very happy.   i'm sorry to say.  i'm on the verge of reinstalling windows
[05:46] <w00t`> ctrl-alt backsapce?
[05:46] <Jacob> yeah its after its insall that I am worried about
[05:46] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc:  'sudo apt-get --purge remove' all of the packages that were listed with that dpkg -l command.  After that has finished, run your 'apt-get install php5 apache2 libapache-mod-php5'.   This restored my config files in /etc/ as well as /etc/init.d
[05:46] <netou> RyanPrior: options -> preferences
[05:46] <badkitty> Jacob: You plan on completely moving to ubuntu or do you want to dualboot
[05:47] <Jacob> confuguring everything
[05:47] <fr500_> w00t`: try a reboot, but it's weird it doesn't work
[05:47] <RyanPrior> netou: Obviously that's what I tried, but I don't see an option anywhere.
[05:47] <Jacob> not sure what do you reccomend
[05:47] <w00t`> fr500, ok.. thanks... brb
[05:47] <nickrud> sdakak: to change over to emerald themes, type:  alt-f2  emerald --replace . To go back to metacity, type   alt-f2 metacity --replace
[05:47] <fr500_> w00t`: smb is working because you were able to access by IP
[05:47] <netou> RyanPrior: video ->output modules;       activate the "advance options" checkbox
[05:47] <Shadow147> Jacob thats what I did and I was able to connect to the net after installation
[05:47] <badkitty> Jacob: Depends, if your worried... dualboot that wa yo can use both, but you need the space for it
[05:47] <SeSsi0n> i have the partition ready when i go to install i get a bcm43xx_microcode5.fw error then it wont finish loading?
[05:47] <adrock358> this buy genii rubin.  he really sounded like he knew what he was doing.  he pulled up this guide and troubleshooted my problem in a matter of seconds almost.
[05:48] <evw2k>  so i created a 5 gig partition in windows xp using magicpartition, then used live cd to get onto ubuntu. Now whenever I get to the partition part of the installation it doesn't recognize that partition. In partition editor the partition has a lock symbol next to it. How do I unlock it? It's in ntfs format.
[05:48] <adrock358> rubin. guy not buy
[05:48] <sdakak> nickrud: can it be done through the gui?
[05:48] <Rubin> adrock358, so your trying to re-install your system with an encrypted disk?
[05:48] <nickrud> sdakak: not that I know of
[05:48] <Jacob> I have 120 ggb
[05:48] <Shadow147> Jacob do you have a 2nd Hard Drive?
[05:48] <sdakak> nickrud: like we have 'live' changes for metacity themes does the same apply to compiz themes?
[05:48] <Jacob> no
[05:48] <Shadow147> Jacob ok
[05:48] <badkitty> Jacob: Thats enough still
[05:48] <SeSsi0n> i have the partition ready when i go to install i get a bcm43xx_microcode5.fw error then it wont finish loading?
[05:48] <Jacob> how do I dual boot
[05:48] <RyanPrior> netou: I don't have video -> output modules. :-(
[05:48] <RyanPrior> !dualboot | Jacob
[05:48] <ubotu> Jacob: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[05:48] <badkitty> Jacob: What OS do you currently have?
[05:49] <Jacob> xp
[05:49] <sdakak> nickrud: the emerald theme that is active at the moment has been deleted by me. but still it is on. how do i remove it?
[05:49] <nickrud> sdakak: not for me, I was just told that because I'm using ati with xserver-xgl there's a bug that requires me to do emerald --replace to apply any changes.
[05:49] <adrock358> rubin.  no.  ignore all encryption stuff.  just trying to install using debootstrap or with a debootstrap version.  i don't even know what i'm doing besides that.  i'm just following this guide because this guy said it would help me get my wireless working
[05:49] <netou> RyanPrior: :S  i have all in spanish so i tried to translate it
[05:49] <Rubin> adrock358, that guide you pasted me is a guide for encrypting your hard disk...
[05:49] <Shadow147> Jacob I would suggest you split the Hard Drive in Half
[05:49] <luchador> anyone know why im connected to my wireless network, but im getting like 1 Kb a second
[05:49] <Rubin> adrock358, why are you debootstrapping exactly?
[05:49] <evw2k>  so i created a 5 gig partition in windows xp using magicpartition, then used live cd to get onto ubuntu. Now whenever I get to the partition part of the installation it doesn't recognize that partition. In partition editor the partition has a lock symbol next to it. How do I unlock it? It's in ntfs format.
[05:49] <adrock358> yeah no kidding but did you read the part about debootstrapper? rubin
[05:49] <Jacob> ok....?
[05:50] <Jacob> lol
[05:50] <NoelJB> adrock358: which wireless adapter?
[05:50] <SeSsi0n> i have the partition ready when i go to install i get a bcm43xx_microcode5.fw error then it wont finish loading?
[05:50] <Jacob> I am very new
[05:50] <Rubin> adrock358, there are guides for debootstrap that dont use encryption...
[05:50] <nickrud> sdakak: We've pretty much exhausted what I know about compiz :)  The people on #compiz-fusion know much more than I do
[05:50] <badkitty> Jacob: Basically the ubuntu install does all the work for you, the main thing is setting up the partitions and making sure when you install, ubuntu knows to install only to the empty partition
[05:50] <sdakak> nickrud: emerald --replace and metacity --replace, can be used safely in a nvidia system, right? or are there more 'correct' ways to toggle it?
[05:50] <noelferreira> i have a script that i need o run with sudo. and i want to create a launcher with it. however i don't want that it asks me for sudo's password. what should i do?
[05:50] <Rubin> adrock358, but why not just re-install from CD?
[05:50] <adrock358> belkin f5d7050 noeljb
[05:50] <evw2k>  so i created a 5 gig partition in windows xp using magicpartition, then used live cd to get onto ubuntu. Now whenever I get to the partition part of the installation it doesn't recognize that partition. In partition editor the partition has a lock symbol next to it. How do I unlock it? It's in ntfs format.
[05:50] <netou> RyanPrior: try figuring out, i have to go to sleep
[05:50] <sdakak> nickrud: thank you.
[05:50] <Jacob> ok
[05:50] <nickrud> sdakak: that's the only way I've ever seen mentioned. Like I said, #compiz-fusion knows best
[05:51] <SeSsi0n> i have the partition ready when i go to install i get a bcm43xx_microcode5.fw error then it wont finish loading?
[05:51] <adrock358> rubin did you read what i said before?  the woreless only works with live cd, not after install.  and genii told me that i need to reinstall with debootstrapper.
[05:51] <Shadow147> badkitty so Jacob will need to partition the hard drive to make another empty partition
[05:51] <Rubin> evw2k, linux doesnt use windows partitions. you shouldnt not create them in windows beforehand. just leave empty space
[05:51] <Max_-> No one knows about RAIDs?
[05:51] <w00t`> ayaw pa rin :(
[05:51] <Jacob> so during the instalation I need to ad a partition and install ubuntu on the new patrition
[05:51] <evw2k> k thanks can i just delete old partition?
[05:51] <badkitty> Shadow147: Yep
[05:51] <Jacob> how do I change what os to boot from
[05:51] <w00t`> fr500, still can't see window machine
[05:51] <Rubin> adrock358, that makes no sense to me. if your wifi doesnt work, debug it. debootstrap cant help any way i can think of
[05:52] <badkitty> Jacob: When you start your pc it will give you a menu and you press up and down keys to select the system
[05:52] <nano__> I'm in need of help, cant get connected to the internet (neither wired nor wireless)
[05:52] <SeSsi0n> i have the partition ready when i go to install i get a bcm43xx_microcode5.fw error then it wont finish loading?
[05:52] <Shadow147> Jacob when grub is installing it will make itself the first bootloader to boot
[05:52] <adrock358> rubin.  ahh.  thank you though.  i don't get how it works.  i'm here for help. i need to get my wireless card working
[05:52] <NoelJB> adrock358: what I see with google, you need to use ndiswrapper with that particular USB network adapter.
[05:52] <adrock358> debug rubin?  how?
[05:52] <Jacob> grub part of linux not really sure what it is
[05:52] <wobblywu> that "99% of your hdd space is in use" notice I get, is there some configuration for it anywhere? as in, any place I can change the percentage it should warn on, and/or disable it altogether?
[05:52] <nickrud> SeSsi0n: that error is probably not related to why it doesn't install. Have you run the disk check option on the start screen?
[05:52] <mosno> does ubuntu use AIGLX by default, or XGL?
[05:53] <NoelJB> adrock358: google is your friend: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=belkin+f5d7050+linux&btnG=Search
[05:53] <Shadow147> Jacob GRUB is ubuntu's bootloader
[05:53] <SeSsi0n> no i havent
[05:53] <adrock358> noeljb.  i heard there;s a much easier and better way
[05:53] <Rubin> adrock358, debootstrap is for installing a new ubuntu install, in a subdirectory of your existing system. its sorta for advanced use really. not something i think you should have been directed into.
[05:53] <Jacob> ok
[05:53] <nickrud> mosno: depends on your video card, nvidia aiglx and ati xgl
[05:53] <Jacob> do you recommend ubuntu over fedora
[05:53] <badkitty> Jacob: Grub is a bootloader. It runs when the system is started and tells the computer how to load the various installed system
[05:53] <NoelJB> adrock358, do you have a reference to this "much easier and better way"?
[05:53] <mosno> nickrud: i'm running the nvidia driver from restricted-manager, so i guess its AIGLX
[05:53] <noelferreira> i have a script that i need o run with sudo. and i want to create a launcher with it. however i don't want that it asks me for sudo's password. what should i do?
[05:53] <SeSsi0n> nickrud: but my buddy had me press f6 then enter a code and it loaded and got stuck at 15 percent
[05:53] <nickrud> Jacob: of course I do, I'm here
[05:53] <Jacob> lol
[05:53] <Shadow147> Jacob which means it will allow you to boot XP/Linux
[05:53] <Jacob> ok
[05:53] <nickrud> SeSsi0n: still run the disk check.
[05:53] <luchador> anyone know why im connected to my wireless network, but im getting like 1 Kb a second
[05:54] <SeSsi0n> ok brb
[05:54] <badkitty> Jacob: YEs I do.. fedora was too big for me to burn all the cd's
[05:54] <Jacob> yeah I know the feeling
[05:54] <Jacob> how is the GUI
[05:54] <Rubin> luchador, some wifi drivers are not all that good.. could be that.
[05:54] <phreck> anyone used freenx?
[05:54] <Jacob> much similar to MAC
[05:54] <Jacob> ?
[05:54] <nickrud> Jacob: it's gnome
[05:54] <badkitty> Jacob: for GRUB?
[05:54] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, WOOT, WOOT!
[05:54] <Jacob> sorry nickrud
[05:54] <Shadow147> Jacob I have 2 hard drives in my computer so I didn't have to mess with partitioning
[05:54] <anderswc> it worked!
[05:54] <partha> hi
[05:54] <Jacob> gui+gnome?
[05:55] <anderswc> and php works
[05:55] <soldats> Jacob, gui is gnome
[05:55] <luchador> Rubin it worked great on 6.06
[05:55] <partha> can i use yahoo messenger in ubuntu7.4
[05:55] <Jacob> ok
[05:55] <luchador> and i just put on 7.10
[05:55] <soldats> with X11
[05:55] <luchador> and now t wont work
[05:55] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: It started I take it. =)  How does php look?
[05:55] <nickrud> Jacob: in some ways, in other ways it's definitely it's own animal (I thought you were comparing fedora and ubuntu's desktops)
[05:55] <Rubin> luchador, further evidence toward a driver bug maybe? :)
[05:55] <bazhang> Jacob: this is not really a chat channel
[05:55] <anderswc> it works!
[05:55] <luchador> so any ideas to fix?
[05:55] <adrock358> hmmm.  this guy genii knew my problem he said he knew of problems with the belkinf5d7050.  he gave me a wifi docs guide from ubuntu.  so many people had this problem that they actually published a guide!  I was in the room troubleshooting for the original guide but he said...."no no no.  That guide is outdated.  there's an updated one in the post.  hold on, let me find it."  many peoplle had this problem.
[05:55] <adrock358> rubin and misslecommander  hmmm.  this guy genii knew my problem he said he knew of problems with the belkinf5d7050.  he gave me a wifi docs guide from ubuntu.  so many people had this problem that they actually published a guide!  I was in the room troubleshooting for the original guide but he said...."no no no.  That guide is outdated.  there's an updated one in the post.  hold on, let me find it."  many peoplle had this prob
[05:55] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, It was just a print statement so it's not too exciting :), but at least it works
[05:56] <Shadow147> Jacob GNOME is a gui and GRUB is a boot loader
[05:56] <Jacob> bazhan: am I not allowed to ask questions on this channel
[05:56] <badkitty> anderswc: haha A good ol "hello world?"
[05:56] <Jacob> awesome
[05:56] <Jacob> got that
[05:56] <RyanPrior> Totem has no problem playing music, it even shows visualizations. I just tried rebooting, removing battery and power cord, and holding power button to drain all the power... still, when I try to play video with Totem or VLC, it shows up stripy without any resolution.
[05:56] <Rubin> adrock358, maybe he gave you the wrong URL by mistake
[05:56] <bazhang> Jacob: not the chit chat kind no
[05:56] <phreck> screw totem
[05:56] <phreck> pile of crap
[05:56] <ZionPsyfer> Nice!  thank you nickrud and badkitty for the help.  Thanks for being patient with me anderswc.  I learned a lot from your problem. =)
[05:57] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, now I have one more question
[05:57] <Rubin> RyanPrior, tried multiple videos?
[05:57] <Jacob> baxhang: I am very new to linx so I am just asking a few questions from expierenced people
[05:57] <Shadow147> bazhang hes asking linux based question
[05:57] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: keep coming back, persistent help can be hard to find :)
[05:57] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Shoot.
[05:57] <adrock358> rubin.  nope  we troubleshot it together.  regardless, i don't care.  can anyone help me out though.  my wireless works witht he lovecd but after i install it, it doesn't.
[05:57] <badkitty> ZionPsyfer: But of course
[05:57] <Danek_rusak> can anyone help me with a ubunty problem?
[05:57] <anderswc> If I edit a file with gedit, and try to save it to /var/www
[05:57] <RyanPrior> Rubin: I've tried multiple videos, including ones I've had around for months and watched before,.
[05:57] <Rubin> adrock358, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[05:57] <anderswc> It says I don't have permission.
[05:57] <NoelJB> adrock358, which version of that adapter?  I see reference to version 4000
[05:57] <Danek_rusak> I have  an itnernet connection problem
[05:57] <cabrioleur> How to disable scrolling workspaces with mouse wheel?
[05:57] <Shadow147> Danek_ruska how can I help
[05:57] <adrock358> rubin.  did that
[05:57] <anderswc> Do I have to move all the files there from sudo?
[05:58] <Rubin> adrock358, what part is broken?
[05:58] <bazhang> Jacob: there are linux general help channels for that this is for folks with actual support questions using ubuntu; there is also #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:58] <adrock358> noeljb v3
[05:58] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: What says you don't have permission? to write in /var/www ?
[05:58] <anderswc> I tried
[05:58] <luchador> any ideas rubin
[05:58] <Jacob> bazhang: are you a channel moderator?
[05:58] <Danek_rusak> shadow 147: I can't connect to the internet from ubunty
[05:58] <soldats> !network
[05:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:58] <RyanPrior> Rubin: If I run Totem as root, it still has the same problem.
[05:58] <nickrud> cabrioleur: #compiz-fusion has answers to compiz questions (and faster, too)
[05:59] <Shadow147> Danek_ruska what type of internet connection are you using
[05:59] <Rubin> luchador, google for your wifi card chipset and slow, and see if anyone else has seen it..
[05:59] <badkitty> Wow how do I get my hands on that OS ubunty.. that sounds badass
[05:59] <nickrud> Jacob: he pretty much is, yes
[05:59] <Danek_rusak> shadow 147: DSL
[05:59] <Rubin> RyanPrior, only thing i can think of is to mess with X settings
[05:59] <adrock358> isn't there an easier way to do this?  this bug was probably fixed in gutsy.  why does it work with livecd, but no with install?  Has anyone ever heard of this?
[05:59] <adrock358> All I know is that I'm going to either lose my mind or reinstall windows if i don't get this working
[05:59] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Yep, /var/www/ is owned by root and only root has write permissions.  You can either do a 'sudo -i' or change the permissions recursively.  Obviously doing the sudo -i is recommended for safety
[05:59] <noelferreira> i have a script that i need o run with sudo. and i want to create a launcher with it. however i don't want that it asks me for sudo's password. what should i do?
[06:00] <RyanPrior> Rubin: Like I said, it's only videos that it's having trouble with. It can play music visualizations in the same space. Is that something that might have to do with X?
[06:00] <Rubin> adrock358, theres a chain of about 15 things that all have to work in order for a wifi connection to be working. that guide walks you through each piece so you can troubleshoot it and find where ith break is, and then we can work on fixing it.
[06:00] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, so what does sudo -i do?
[06:00] <adrock358> rubin.  all these guides refer to things that have already been fixed most likely in gutsy.  i'm using gutsy.  and my problem is that wireless works great only on the live cd, but then after install it doesn't show any networks.
[06:00] <Shadow147> Danek_ruska what type of connection are you using an ethernet card or wireless
[06:00] <RyanPrior> anderswc: sudo -i gives you a root shell, I think.
[06:00] <Jacob> well whats ever thanks badkitty and shadow147 but apparently I am bothering people here on this channel and I have been asked to stop by bazhang I will be at #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:00] <Rubin> adrock358, 'wifi doesnt work' isnt something we can help you with. we need details
[06:00] <Jacob> thanks for everting
[06:00] <bazhang> Jacob: not meaning to give you a hard time--please come on in to #ubuntu-offtopic and discuss some of these issues
[06:00] <badkitty> Jacob: hmm is he a moderator
[06:01] <Jacob> I know thanks for you help and I understand bazhang
[06:01] <Jacob> thanks
[06:01] <Jacob> EX-chat
[06:01] <NoelJB> adrock358: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_3000_(Ralink_rt73_driver)
[06:01] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: short story, it gives you a root shell in that terminal.  you won't have to do 'sudo vi whatever.php' every time.  just the normal vi whatever.php
[06:01] <Danek_rusak> Shadow 147 - an ethernet cord is plugged into my computer, and from there to a DSL modem, then to the telephone line
[06:01] <badkitty> Jacob: See you soon once you have everything installed
[06:01] <Psynaut> Anyone out there that plays wow on the latest cedega?
[06:01] <Shadow147> Danek_ruska ok
[06:01] <RyanPrior> Psynaut: I'm sure there are people. You can play it on Wine, too.
[06:01] <anderswc> sorry, but whats vi ? :/
[06:02] <Shadow147> !eithernet
[06:02] <RyanPrior> anderswc: Vi is an expert text editor.
[06:02] <soldats> editor
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eithernet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <anderswc> ahh!
[06:02] <anderswc> ok
[06:02] <bazhang> Psynaut: wine with wow is very playable
[06:02] <Shadow147> !internet
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <RyanPrior> anderswc: It takes some getting used to if you've never used it before, but it has some really awesome features.
[06:02] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: substitute vi with gedit  ;)
[06:02] <Rubin> andatche, vi is a sort of traditional editor for text files.. dont try to use it without first reading a tutorial you'll get stuck
[06:02] <softtower> Guys, I have the following question: My Ubuntu 7.04 has never reliably switched from WiFi to wired connection and back, generally I always just rebooted (network daemons). I do run "Network Tool" in the menu, which allows me to switch manually, although samba daemons still need to be rebooted, but is there a way to do it automatically?
[06:02] <Psynaut> I am sure there are too :) I just need to talk with some people who do because I am getting laggy rendering in game and need to fix it :)
[06:02] <Danek_rusak> ?
[06:02] <nickrud> oh, anderswc don't play with vi , use gedit or nano
[06:03] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i make my numlock start at boot
[06:03] <Danek_rusak> shadow, what do you mean?
[06:03] <RyanPrior> Why discourage vi use? It's a common and useful tool.
[06:03] <Rubin> softtower, that stuff got fixed a lot with 7.10 you might just try upgrading
[06:03] <badkitty> nickrud: I always liked nano
[06:03] <Psynaut> does wine run wow better than cedega?
[06:03] <ogre> hey guys, I was wondering how I can check to see how much ram I have by cli
[06:03] <soldats> Psynaut, wow with wine
[06:03] <Psynaut> I payed for a month of cedega
[06:03] <RyanPrior> Psynaut: It depends on the version of Wine and Cedega you're talking about. They both work well.
[06:03] <adrock358> from my previous reception in this room.  everyone was surprided that wireless didn't work after install.  Everyone was like "What?  We've never heard of that."  so I'm wondering if this in itself is a bug--the not working after install wireless.  all the guides you guys are showing me i can either not use them, or i have used them.  besides, those are old guide.  don't you think they would have fixed the problem in the newer r
[06:03] <Jay-Oh-En> and how do i make my splash screen go in verbose with the splash screen still there
[06:03] <nickrud> softtower: the 7.04 networkmanager was like that. The one in gutsy works _much_ better
[06:03] <Psynaut> and am not impressed
[06:03] <Rubin> ogre: free -m, or run top
[06:03] <Shadow147> Danek_ruska I beleive you need you run a setup I just can't remember which one
[06:03] <softtower> Rubin, thank you. I have to wait out though. 7.10 won't play nice with my video card (long story). Fucking ATI/AMD...
[06:03] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: If you're not familiar with it, definitely stick with your prefered editor.  The point being you don't have to prefix all your commands with 'sudo'
[06:03] <Rubin> softtower, ahh.
[06:03] <adrock358> rubin  from my previous reception in this room.  everyone was surprided that wireless didn't work after install.  Everyone was like "What?  We've never heard of that."  so I'm wondering if this in itself is a bug--the not working after install wireless.  all the guides you guys are showing me i can either not use them, or i have used them.  besides, those are old guide.  don't you think they would have fixed the problem in the 
[06:03] <adrock358> (06:03:33 AM) RyanPrior: Psynaut: It depends on the version of Wine and Cedega you're talking about. They both work well.
[06:04] <Danek_rusak> Shadow, where might I be able to find it?
[06:04] <Psynaut> I am running Cedega 6.0.5 and everything is laggy :S
[06:04] <nickrud> softtower: what ati card do you have?
[06:04] <Rubin> softtower, you could try grabbing JUST the kernel from 7.10 using pinning.
[06:04] <Ellement> help: just installed ubuntu today and can get ati radeon 9250 card driver. restricted drivers says "no restricted drivers needed" so i cant install it that way. ive read a few tutorials but all of them say do sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx. but i cant install that i get an error
[06:04] <soldats> adrock358, please dont repeat, it creates a small flood
[06:04] <NoelJB> softtower, FYI: watch the language.  This forum is permanently archived.
[06:04] <Shadow147> Danek_ruska well usually ubuntu detects right away
[06:04] <Rubin> Ellement, what is the error?
[06:05] <ogre> Rubin:  thanks alot buddy
[06:05] <Danek_rusak> Shadow: I tried ipconfig or putting auto detection on, that didn't work
[06:05] <adrock358> soldats.  you wouldn't like me to cause a big flood, would you?
[06:05] <Rubin> adrock358, its obviously a bug. we would all love if your wifi worked out of the box. its complicated though.
[06:05] <Shadow147> Danek_ruska go here https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/internet/C/connect.html
[06:05] <softtower> nickrud: I have ATI FireGL v5200 on Thinkpad T60p
[06:05] <nickrud> the only thing more complicated than wireless is sound
[06:06] <softtower> NoelJB, thanks for advice.
[06:06] <misslecommander> adrock359: sorry took so long
[06:06] <Rubin> adrock358, but like. is the device there? can you see access points? are you connecting but not getting an IP? etc etc. where is it broken exactly?
[06:06] <badkitty> nickrud: isn't that the truth
[06:06] <soldats> adrock358, you posted a statement and the same one directed to someone, just remember to not repeat the same thing
[06:06] <nickrud> badkitty: remember when a layman could understand alsa?
[06:06] <ampex> for all of those ATI'ers out there
[06:06] <misslecommander> here is my noob leading the blind tutorial on wireless networks
[06:06] <ampex> I've found this very helpful
[06:06] <ampex> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[06:06] <softtower> Rubin, kernel is the most problematic piece of 7.10 - it has a new memory allocator that does not work with ATI proprietary drivers for my card.
[06:06] <adrock358> rubin.  it does work!  just not in real os.  look thanks guys.  I'm going to split.  maybe I'll see you later on.  Thank you again for all your help
[06:07] <Rubin> softtower, ahh. Might be kinda stuck then
[06:07] <adrock358> soldats.  thanks but do you really think that i meant to do that?  i was copying a past post with no name ID
[06:07] <badkitty> nickrud: No not at all..Im a noob, but but so much where I haven't had to deal with both issues for a while
[06:07] <Danek_rusak> Shadow: thanks, but it dosn't detect my modem, or can't work with it (I tried that before)
[06:07] <bazhang> thanks ampex!
[06:07] <Ellement> Rubin: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: xorg-driver-fglrx Depends: libstdc++5 (>=1:3.3.4-1) but is not installable. E: Broken packages
[06:07] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i make my numlock start at boot
[06:07] <nickrud> softtower: the latest ati driver provides suspend with slub, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide will help you install it
[06:07] <misslecommander> pastebin said i was spamming
[06:07] <softtower> Rubin, I don't complain. My current setup is better than anything else I've used before.
[06:08] <misslecommander> lol
[06:08] <phreck> Anyeone familiar with freeNX?!
[06:08] <Rubin> softtower, i was in the same boat with my thinkpad.. 7.10 fixed it all up for me though.
[06:08] <nickrud> ampex: heh, I see you posted it already :0
[06:08] <Rubin> softtower, wonder if the hardy kernel would work?
[06:08] <softtower> well... ThinkPads are nice machines to run Linux on.
[06:08] <misslecommander> adrock358: i will have to give you cut-down version
[06:09] <nickrud> softtower: it's soooo nice to just close the lid again
[06:09] <softtower> nickrud, everything works fine on my thinkpad. every possible feature: standby/hibernate/lid, etc
[06:09] <adrock358> i feel like i need to smoke 5 cigarettes after this
[06:10] <Rubin> softtower, mine had a lot of issues, but most are solved now. just some intel 965 3d problems (endgame screensaver locks the whole thing up)
[06:10] <wenbo> how can i make a ubuntu live cd in usb?
[06:10] <Shadow147> Danek_rusak you may have to change your modem to another pci port it could have goe bad
[06:10] <misslecommander> o well, pastebin keeps telling me i am a spammer, i onyl wrote a few pastebins, and i am a psammer lol
[06:10] <softtower> When I was buying it I specifically looked for Linux-compatible hardware. It's the video card that gives me problems with 7.10 but those problems are temporary. ATI is releasing drivers every couple of months, so I'm ok. Thanks.
[06:10] <compy> does anyone know the forum url where it tells you how to install firefox 32 bit version on 64 bit system?
[06:10] <nintendonerd282> hey how do you get a moving backround on ubuntu
[06:10] <nintendonerd282> like
[06:10] <Ellement> Rubin: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: xorg-driver-fglrx Depends: libstdc++5 (>=1:3.3.4-1) but is not installable. E: Broken packages
[06:10] <nickrud> softtower: with feisty mine did also, but I fussed with compiling a custom kernel so I could suspend (I hadn't done that in years). It's nice to use the standard ubuntu one again
[06:10] <Shadow147> Danek_rusak well your ethernet card
[06:10] <Rubin> misslecommander, try pastebin.ca
[06:10] <adrock358> is there anyway to get this working while booted on my live cd.  that would be perfect.  otherwise i'm going to have to reboot everytime i want to use th internet
[06:10] <badkitty> adrock358: lol... yeah thats odd you are having wireless issues with gutsy.. I know edgy and dapper had some serious support issues
[06:10] <wenbo> i want to make a mini ubuntu live cd ,how can i do ?
[06:10] <Danek_rusak> Shadow: internet works just fine on my Windows XP
[06:10] <Rubin> Ellement, hmm. are you doing anything weird with package sources?
[06:10] <brownie17> hi guys, trying to convert an avi to ipod video format. got the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52368/
[06:10] <misslecommander> Rbuin: i already dumped it, gone, poof, he is on his own
[06:10] <nintendonerd282> how do you get a moving backround with ubuntu. like if i wanted a matrix picture with the moving numbers...
[06:11] <compy> does anyone know the forum url where it tells you how to install firefox 32 bit version on 64 bit system?
[06:11] <icesword> huh
[06:11] <nintendonerd282> ok like if i wanted a backround with a picture that moves. where would i get that for ubuntu
[06:11] <Shadow147> Danek_rusak hmm
[06:11] <softtower> compy, does 64-bit Linux run 32-bit binaries?
[06:11] <badkitty> nintendonerd282: did you try a google search
[06:11] <soldats> nintendonerd282, as in .gif
[06:11] <nintendonerd282> well not like gif
[06:11] <Rubin> nintendonerd282, maybe by putting a screensaver into the 'root' window?
[06:12] <adrock358> badkitty.  i'm dying.  i need to get my wireless working!  I didn't even go to work today!  of course i don't really need to switch from windows, but i like ubuntu better,
[06:12] <nintendonerd282> i have wireless working on my ubuntu
[06:12] <Ellement> Rubin: am complete ubuntu newbie so i have no idea.
[06:12] <celske> how do i delete all files inside a folder? (terminal cmd)
[06:12] <Rubin> adrock358, you dont really want to fix it. you just want to be frustrated.
[06:12] <misslecommander> from my own experience, some of the stuff i didnt need to do, using ndiswrapper was alot of time wasted, when the wifi card already had the correct driver, i just needed to configure it
[06:12] <compy> softtower, umm no clue... i haev had flash working before but i cant find the instructions anymore after my reinstall
[06:12] <adrock358> rubin.  no, i just want someone to fic it for me.
[06:12] <badkitty> adrock358: yeah I understand your pain... I felt that in dapper... i actually bought a new wireless card to ease my suffering
[06:12] <Rubin> celske, rm folder/*
[06:12] <Danek_rusak> Shadow: any ideas?
[06:12] <nintendonerd282> 7.10 detected my wireless instantly
[06:12] <Rubin> adrock358, noone will. now what?
[06:12] <nintendonerd282> i have a belkin wireless reciever
[06:12] <ogre> celske:  by cli or with a gui?
[06:13] <misslecommander> ohter issues resolved had been enabling all the Software Sources, that was major
[06:13] <celske> cli
[06:13] <nickrud> compy: http://sudan.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=202537
[06:13] <celske> and nvm i done it
[06:13] <NoelJB> nintendonerd282, same model as adrock358?
[06:13] <nintendonerd282> i dont knwo
[06:13] <misslecommander> i ahd that broke packages the other day, took me a few hours, finally fixed it
[06:13] <compy> nickrud, thanks
[06:13] <nintendonerd282> i have a belking My Essential G usb stick thing
[06:13] <nintendonerd282> belin*
[06:13] <ogre> celske:  rubin got it already i see
[06:13] <nintendonerd282> belkin*
[06:13] <adrock358> rubin.  or i want an easy fix.  i don't know how to use source code man.  i'm going to be in these forums forever if i use one of these guides.  it'll take forever.
[06:14] <NoelJB> nintendonerd282, he's using F5D7050 v3
[06:14] <nintendonerd282> oh
[06:14] <nintendonerd282> nvm then
[06:14] <misslecommander> adrock358: i missed alot of what they had helped you with
[06:14] <softtower> compy, I added you to private chat, do you see me?
[06:14] <badkitty> adrock358: Did you ever try the ol' ndiswrapper deal?
[06:14] <compy> softtower, no i dont
[06:14] <Rubin> Ellement, try this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[06:14] <adrock358> yeah i installed it
[06:14] <misslecommander> adrock358: type "/join #adrock358" and i will meet you there
[06:14] <danonura> is there any difference between install via synaptic or apt-get method?
[06:15] <ogre> how come I never use any of my dang swap?
[06:15] <Rubin> adrock358, you should buy commercial support from someone.
[06:15] <softtower> compy, Well, you already got a decent response. Frankly I did not know you could run 32-bit binaries on 64-bit system. Windows does it, but Debian AFAIK did not...
[06:15] <nintendonerd282> yeah im using a belkin my essentials wireless G usb adapter ME1001-USB i dont kwno what ur using
[06:15] <Extravert> anyone know what package to get for fourcc / quicktime?
[06:15] <soldats> !register | compy softtower
[06:15] <ubotu> compy softtower: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[06:15] <nickrud> danonura: for all practical purposes, none
[06:15] <adrock358> rubin.  you are right!  too cheap though (broke).
[06:15] <compy> softtower, i foudn the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:15] <ogre> Extravert:  just use vlc player
[06:15] <Rubin> adrock358, you are a walking rock AND hard place :)
[06:15] <softtower> ubotu, I am registered user. Do you mind if I try to send you a private msg?
[06:15] <Extravert> ogre: I need the encoder
[06:15] <nintendonerd282> oh i downloaded an avi movie the other day, and it wont play in totem
[06:15] <compy> oh i need to reg
[06:15] <Rubin> softtower, ubotu is a computer
[06:15] <nintendonerd282> i installed the missing coecs
[06:15] <nickrud> softtower: ubotu is a bot
[06:15] <nintendonerd282> codecs
[06:15] <ogre> softtower:  ubotu is a bot
[06:16] <adrock358> rubin.  i know bro.  story of my life.  thank you very much for the help though sir.
[06:16] <Danek_rusak> ALL: my internet works fine on Windows XP, but doesn't work on Ubuntu at all; what's the problem?
[06:16] <ogre> nickrud:  jinx
[06:16] <ampex> softtower: you just need to apt-get install ia32-libs
[06:16] <misslecommander> adrock358: type /join #adrock358 i am in there
[06:16] <badkitty> nickrud: Besides having control of what exactly you are dling and being able to visually see it
[06:16]  * nickrud laughs, calling a bot a computer ;p
[06:16] <danonura> nickrud:thanks
[06:16] <softtower> this is creepy... that bot sent me several private messages just now.
[06:16] <Rubin> Danek_rusak, could be any number of things..
[06:16] <adrock358>  /join #adrock358
[06:16] <ogre> lol
[06:16] <nintendonerd282> Why wont Totem play Avi formatted movies... even with the codec pack installed.
[06:16] <EADG_> brownie17: in a terminal type ffmpeg -formats |less to see if you have mp4 support.
[06:16] <Danek_rusak> like what?
[06:16] <nickrud> softtower: someone probably did   /msg tell softtower <something> :)
[06:17] <Rubin> Danek_rusak, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25557
[06:17] <badkitty> danonura: Try both methods and see what you like about each... Command line is faster... synaptic is good for browsing whats available
[06:17] <ogre> softtower:  someone used ubotu to send u a msg regarding one of yr questions
[06:17] <ZionPsyfer> nintendonerd282:  I've had bad luck with Totem, I'd give vlc and xine a try
[06:17] <nickrud> badkitty: I use aptitude for that control. But synaptic comes real close
[06:17] <nintendonerd282> vlc wont play it eitehr
[06:17] <nintendonerd282> neither will mplayer
[06:17] <softtower> can anyone send me a private msg please? I am registered but never used this feature... Just curious. thank you.
[06:17] <brownie17> EADG_, it looks as if i don't, however about 2 months ago i tried to do this EXACTLY the same and it worked fine
[06:17] <soldats> nintendonerd282, totem has been known to have minor problems, a suggestion may be to use another player eventhough totem only plays avi for me
[06:17] <brownie17> EADG, haven't changed my system since then
[06:17] <nintendonerd282> oh
[06:17] <nintendonerd282> ok
[06:18] <soldats> maybe gxine
[06:18] <nintendonerd282> well vlc...wont play any videos for me
[06:18] <badkitty> nickrud: Yah I do too
[06:18] <nintendonerd282> just audio
[06:18] <Danek_rusak> thanks, i'll try that
[06:18] <Danek_rusak> cya all
[06:18] <Rubin> nintendonerd282, click applications, add/remove (at the bottom)
[06:18] <nintendonerd282> ok
[06:18] <Rubin> nintendonerd282, at upper right, choose 'all available'
[06:18] <misslecommander> i dont know
[06:18] <misslecommander> why cant he join ?
[06:18] <EADG_> brownie17: strange... don't know what to tell you.
[06:18] <badkitty> nickrud: But newer folks can ease into things with synaptic since it is similar to say.. add/remove programs
[06:18] <danonura> i started learning about partitioning so i could install ubuntu 7.10. i accidentally formated a drive i didn't want formatted. but luckily linux has many recovery progs. i used testdisk to recover and it worked.
[06:18] <xTheGoat121x> Is there a way to set it so that Ubuntu picks preferred wireless networks but can still roam?
[06:19] <mosno> can avant window navigator completely replace gnome-panel, or will my gnome session suffer?
[06:19] <Rubin> nintendonerd282, then find a package called restricted drivers manager and ubuntu restricted extras
[06:19] <EADG_> brownie17: Give Convertit a try, it's a gui frontend for converting, and it has a ipod option.
[06:19] <nintendonerd282> Rubin, what next
[06:19] <danonura> linux is way better than windows
[06:19] <nintendonerd282> oh never mind
[06:19] <nintendonerd282> lol
[06:19] <ogre> I like synaptic  and aptitude is "da bomb" too
[06:19] <soldats> misslecommander, make the room ##ado***
[06:19] <brownie17> EADG_, thanks
[06:19] <nickrud> badkitty: yes. I usually suggest synaptic and a few commands (like ctl-f) . And synaptic does some things aptitude doesn't, like show packages by origin easily
[06:19] <nano__> I need of help, I cant get connected to the internet (neither wired nor wireless).....
[06:20] <Rubin> nano_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25557
[06:20] <Rubin> nano__ rather.
[06:20] <jordoex> anyone know how to use the upgrade manager to upgrade to hardy now?
[06:20] <Rubin> jordoex, not upgrade manager.. but i can tell you how to do it on the commandline
[06:21] <jordoex> meh, i know how to do that
[06:21] <xTheGoat121x> jordoex, you cannot upgrade to hardy now via upgrade manager
[06:21] <RyanPrior> jordoex: If you don't know how to upgrade to Hardy, you probably shouldn't be upgrading to Hardy.
[06:21] <badkitty> Hardy is still in development though eh
[06:21] <nintendonerd282> which audio player will sync with an ipod or a creative mp3 player
[06:21] <jordoex> using the cli upgrade manager or apt-get dist-uprade?
[06:21] <RyanPrior> nintendonerd282: Rhythmbox, Banshee, Amarok, Exaile
[06:21] <nickrud> jordoex: unless you plan on fixing a moving target, you might want to wait till mid feb , after feature freeze
[06:21] <nano__> Rubin: Mind, I am getting a signal, its just that when trying to load any page it times out
[06:21] <nintendonerd282> rythmbox supports ipod? their site said they didnt
[06:21] <nintendonerd282> w/e
[06:21] <nintendonerd282> lol
[06:21] <nintendonerd282> ok
[06:22] <Rubin> nano_, do you have an IP address?
[06:22] <nintendonerd282> do i haev to install drivers for a Creative MP3 player on ilnux?
[06:22] <jordoex> arg, i really want projectM now and the compiled version won't work on amarok for some reason
[06:22] <soldats> rythmbox supports ipods
[06:22] <softtower> nintendonerd282, my ipod touch does not show up in Rhythmbox.
[06:22] <nintendonerd282> thanks
[06:22] <nintendonerd282> oh
[06:22] <nintendonerd282> well
[06:22] <nintendonerd282> my ipod is an ipod shuffle XD
[06:22] <nintendonerd282> i have a creative zen vision: M
[06:22] <softtower> My stupid Motorola phone does, though :-)
[06:22] <nintendonerd282> that i want to sync
[06:22] <nano__> Rubin: Yes
[06:22] <nickrud> jordoex: keep a gutsy partition, and install hardy on another. That way when things that you must have break, you can still get work done
[06:22] <NoelJB> nintendonerd282, rythmebox, but I ... as softtower is discovering, Apple has made changes to lock out 3rd parties.
[06:23] <Rubin> nano_, are you using a router to connect to the internet?
[06:23] <nintendonerd282> do i have to install the creative software with wine?
[06:23] <nano__> Rubin: Yes
[06:23] <soldats> nintendonerd282, you need to use the ipod plugin in rythmbox, also using a creative should show up as well via usb
[06:23] <Rubin> nano_, is your ip address 192.168.*something*?
[06:23] <EADG_> softtower: there is a nice tutorial on ubuntu-forums to get the Touch up and running with gtkpod.
[06:23] <nintendonerd282> ok
[06:23] <jordoex> meh, I'll wait, i did wait for 8 months for kde4
[06:23] <nintendonerd282> thanhks
[06:23] <badkitty> nickrud: Or use virtualbox and test it out so you dont have to deal with partitioning
[06:23] <RyanPrior> jordoex: You're probably better trying to get ProjectM to compile from source than upgrading to Hardy. I'm on Hardy now and it's been pretty rough.
[06:23] <nano__> Rubin: Yep
[06:23] <Rubin> nano_, whats the something?
[06:23] <softtower> EADG_, thank you but I hate iPods. :-) I bought it just for fun, my gf is using it now.
[06:23] <nickrud> badkitty: better advice, true
[06:24] <nano__> hmm, 1.0
[06:24]  * nickrud keeps a couple spare partitions Just In Case
[06:24] <jordoex> RyanPrior: thanks, I'll wait, i did compile and for some reason it doesn't work
[06:24] <wobblywu> that "99% of your hdd space is in use" notice I get, is there some configuration for it anywhere? as in, any place I can change the percentage it should warn on, and/or disable it altogether?
[06:24] <nintendonerd282> well... do mp3 players show up in the file tree? i want to like add music to certain folders
[06:24] <Rubin> nano_, erm... your ip address is 192.168.1.0?
[06:24]  * soldats keeps a few extra hdds just in case
[06:24] <nano__> Rubin: let me confirm
[06:24] <badkitty> nickrud: haha do you really? They must be secondaries... can only have 3 logical right?
[06:25] <RyanPrior> jordoex: At the same time, if you would like to experience a full-immersion tutorial in Ubuntu bug reporting, go ahead and upgrade away. :-D
[06:25] <nickrud> badkitty: as far as linux is concerned, a logical is identical to a primary for All Practical Purposes ;)
[06:25] <Psynaut> Does anyone know how to fix laggy rendering issues and low fps in Wow while using cedega 6.0.5???
[06:26] <badkitty> nickrud: Right... yet another reason to use it over m$
[06:26] <RyanPrior> Psynaut: Make sure your graphics card is supported right.
[06:26] <RyanPrior> Psynaut: What do you get on glxgears?
[06:26] <nickrud> Psynaut: you should probably find a cedega channel for that help
[06:26] <Ellement> rubin: restricted-manager: depends: synaptic but it is not installable. preDepends python-notify
[06:26] <Rubin> PSyKo, cedega is a closed source commercial application. we dont really want to support it...
[06:26] <Psynaut> sec ryan gonna go check again
[06:26] <nintendonerd282> Second life wont install on my computer can anyone help me
[06:27] <xTheGoat121x> ... there's a linux version of 2nd life?
[06:27] <nintendonerd282> i clicked the ... whats it called lol.. shell script or w/e
[06:27] <nintendonerd282> yeah
[06:27] <nintendonerd282> its alpha though
[06:27] <Psynaut> Ryan I'm averaging around 8000 FPS
[06:27] <phreck> are you running compiz
[06:27] <Rubin> Ellement, make sure you have all the repositories enabled.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[06:27] <Odd-rationale> xTheGoat121x: Yes. You can get it on getdeb.net
[06:27] <nano__> Rubin:1.2
[06:27] <RyanPrior> Psynaut: Sounds like your graphics card is working, then. I don't know a thing about configuring Cedega, though.
[06:27] <badkitty> Psynaut: Fast... 712??
[06:28] <nickrud> what's that glxgears option, --glxgearsisnotabenchmark ?
[06:28] <Rubin> nano_, ahh ok better. open a terminal, and type: ping 192.168.1.1
[06:28] <Psynaut> 256 7800GT OC
[06:28] <Rubin> nano_, should get replies back..
[06:28] <vegpuff> hi i have a 24" screen. can i rotate 90 degrees and change the resolution acordingly?
[06:28] <phreck> Psynaut, : Are you runing Compiz
[06:28] <nintendonerd282> Rubin, I installed those restricted packs you told me to get
[06:28] <nintendonerd282> what else do i do
[06:28] <nintendonerd282> is that it?
[06:28] <Psynaut> I don't believe so Phreck
[06:28] <nano__> Rubin: I am
[06:28] <Psynaut> how can I check?
[06:28] <Rubin> nintendonerd282, im not postive but i think that has what you need
[06:28] <phreck> are you on a default install of 7.10?
[06:28] <nintendonerd282> Thanks rubin
[06:28] <Psynaut> yeah default desktop
[06:28] <Odd-rationale> vegpuff: Yes.
[06:28] <Rubin> nano_, ok now try to ping 64.233.167.99 (google)
[06:29] <badkitty> vegpuff: Yes but I dont know how to
[06:29] <nano__> Rubin: how do i stop this?
[06:29] <Rubin> nano__ control-c
[06:29] <vegpuff> Odd-rationale, how do i make my resolution something like 1200x1920 ?
[06:29] <nano__> Ok
[06:29] <phreck> meh
[06:29] <phreck> donno.
[06:29] <nano__> I am
[06:29] <Rubin> vegpuff, manly way is to modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand using a text editor ;)
[06:29] <nano__> Rubin: Getting replies
[06:30] <Rubin> nano__: hmm. ok now try typing this: host google.com
[06:30] <vegpuff> Rubin, does that work? :)
[06:30] <nickrud> Psynaut: system->prefs->appearance , last tab. If anything but none is checked, you're running compiz
[06:30] <Odd-rationale> vegpuff: use xrandr. I'll try to get you some links...
[06:30] <Rubin> does it resolve?
[06:30] <vegpuff> Odd-rationale, will try that :)
[06:30] <chr11> anyone know how to make totem play .avi files? I thought I had the codecs to do this... apparently I don't... which package do I need?
[06:30] <phreck> nickrud, if he is on a default install with an NVIDIA gpu, he is running it
[06:30] <Rubin> vegpuff, yes. but also if you mess up can make your system text-mode only :) depends on your level of hackerness
[06:30] <Psynaut> I am on normal
[06:30] <nickrud> phreck: yup, but that's a positive check, not an assumption
[06:30] <jordoex> RyanPrior: nah, i don't want to go back to using windows for 2 months because of a couple annoying bugs in ubuntu
[06:30] <Psynaut> normal nickrud
[06:31] <badkitty> chr11: Look at medibuntu
[06:31] <nano__> Rubin: warning message parser reports malformed message packet
[06:31] <nano__> Rubin: timed out
[06:31] <Rubin> nano_, whoa
[06:31] <chr11> ty
[06:31] <soldats> chr11, open synaptic and search for avi codecs
[06:31] <Rubin> nano__: one sec
[06:31] <nano__> Rubin: Ok
[06:31] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut: have you done the tweaks on the Config.wtf file?
[06:31] <nickrud> Psynaut: then check none, and try your game again. compiz can interfere with gl games
[06:31] <phreck> not can
[06:31] <phreck> does.
[06:31] <Rubin> nano__: type: cat /etc/resolv.conf and paste the contents to pastebin.ca for me
[06:32] <narothepharoh> how do i unrar a file?
[06:32] <nickrud> phreck: true again, but I usually hedge my statements <-- again :)
[06:32] <Psynaut> Zionpsyfer: no I have not found any tweaks for the config.wtf
[06:32] <Rubin> narothepharoh, unrar :)
[06:32] <Psynaut> nickrud: I will try that right now
[06:32] <marx2k_> Does anyone know how to uninstall xampp
[06:32] <marx2k_> ?
[06:32] <chr11> already have libdevcss2 and w32codecs installed... that's all that pops up in synaptic when I search for medibuntu... do I need a different repository?
[06:32] <badkitty> narothepharoh:  you have to install unrar though
[06:32] <Rubin> marx2k, cant you use the package manager to do it?
[06:33] <FluxD> nickrud, u there ?
[06:33] <Odd-rationale> vegpuff: Are you registered, and can I pm you?
[06:33] <marx2k_> Hm I installed it from a downloaded deb
[06:33] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut: edit it and put this line in:  SET gxApi "opengl"
[06:33] <badkitty> chr11: yep google medibuntu
[06:33] <nickrud> FluxD: hanging in for a few more minutes
[06:33] <KyMc1985> Just downloaded the ISO of 7.10, won't get past the ISOLINUX 3.36, it comes up "Boot Failed: Press a key to retry"
[06:33] <vegpuff> yeah Odd-rationale sure!
[06:33] <badkitty> hi marx2k
[06:33] <Rubin> marx2k_, by cmdline, dpkg -r packagename
[06:33] <nintendonerd282> Ok so like im downloading a tar file. where do i extract it to get it into my file system
[06:33] <ghosTM55> badkitty: i'm back !
[06:33] <marx2k_> can I use dpkg on a deb to remove what it installed?
[06:33] <marx2k_> Ooh! thank RUbin, hi badkitty :)
[06:33] <badkitty> hey ghost
[06:33] <Rubin> nintendonerd282, wherever you want to put it...
[06:34] <ghosTM55> badkitty: what r u talking about ?
[06:34] <FluxD> nickrud, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm I did that as you said before to change login manager. As root it worked but now as a sudo user I dont get anything
[06:34] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut: That'll force opengl versus directx.
[06:34] <CruCio> I need
[06:34] <badkitty> ghosTM55: Just seeing if I can help folks and learn new things in the process
[06:34] <misslecommander> Rubin: how do you all do it, you can help 3 people at once ?
[06:34] <CruCio> How do i install Java on my ubuntu ?
[06:34] <nano__> Rubin: not on the pc with linux but it just says do not edit, then nameserver 192.168.1.1
[06:34] <Psynaut> Zionpsyfer: alright gonna do that right now. does it matter where in the config file I put that line?
[06:34] <soldats> misslecommander, fast eyes
[06:34] <Rubin> misslecommander, takes practice :)
[06:34] <FluxD> !java | CruCio
[06:34] <ubotu> CruCio: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[06:34] <nickrud> FluxD: strange, I'd expect there to be no difference
[06:35] <FluxD> nickrud, it showed me a blue screen before but nothing now
[06:35] <ghosTM55> badkitty: ;-) , i'm installing Windows XP on my Virtual box
[06:35] <Rubin> nano__: what kind of router is it? seems like its sending bad dns replies to you
[06:35] <misslecommander> <- slow eyes, out of practice
[06:35] <nano__> umm
[06:35] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut: Nope, I usually just put it at the end.
[06:35] <badkitty> ghosTM55: Good one!
[06:35] <marx2k_> wtf...
[06:35] <nano__> Rubin: Good question
[06:35] <marx2k_> sudo dpkg -r xampp-linux-1.6.5a.tar.gz
[06:35] <marx2k_> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove xampp-linux-1.6.5a.tar.gz which isn't installed.
[06:35] <FluxD> nickrud, any other way to change it ?
[06:35] <Psynaut> ZionPsyfer: rgr thanks gonna test it out
[06:35] <nickrud> FluxD: try sudo -i , then run it again (without sudo, you're root) . type exit to return to normal command line
[06:35] <ZionPsyfer> Here's a page with more tweaks to play with:  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_and_update_World_Of_Warcraft_with_wine
[06:35] <marx2k_> it;s installed... ugh
[06:35] <Viking667> I'm getting a strange reaction when I try to import a key using gpg as specified in the source-o-matic list. One of the lines is:  No ultimately trusted keys found
[06:36] <Rubin> nano__, you could override resolv.conf with some dns servers that are known to work. (and tell dhcpclient NOT to overwrite it next lease!)
[06:36] <ghosTM55> badkitty: i found i have no Windows on my box , so i installed one , for special use some day , lol
[06:36] <Psynaut> Zionpsyfer: just said WOW wasn't able to start up 3D Acceleration
[06:36] <soldats> marx2k_, try it with apt-get
[06:36] <FluxD> nickrud, sudo -i dpkg-reconfigure gdm ?
[06:36] <marx2k_> how do you run apt-get on a deb file?
[06:36] <KyMc1985> oops: cd was dirty :P
[06:36] <badkitty> ghosTM55: yeah thats what i do
[06:36] <CruCio> thanks doe the link guys but i have tried everything but unfortunatly
[06:36] <nickrud> Viking667: that means you don't have a key that you have either marked as ultimately trusted, or trusted because it's in your web of trust. Don't worry about it
[06:36] <CruCio>  i still am not unable to install java
[06:36] <CruCio> please help
[06:37] <soldats> marx2k_, oh whoops i thought you were trying to remove it
[06:37] <nano__> Rubin: Ok, sounds good
[06:37] <badkitty> marx2k I dont think thats what youre trying to do though
[06:37] <nickrud> FluxD: sudo -i <enter> (you'll see a root prompt) then do the dpkg-reconfigurer
[06:37] <Rubin> nano__, http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.networking/2005-09/0088.html seems to be the same issue as you.
[06:37] <peaceful> use dpkg -i instead of apt-get @ marx2k_
[06:37] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut: K, they say that happens sometimes though I've never seen it.  Add this to the end of Config.wtf to disable the opening movies:   SET movie "0"
[06:37] <ghosTM55> CruCio: what up ? unable to install JAVA environment?
[06:37] <marx2k_> Im trying to purge my system of everything the xampp deb package installed (its a local deb package, not in the repos)
[06:37] <FluxD> nickrud, I am typing this thru putty
[06:37] <Rubin> marx2k_ use --purge when you remove it to kill all its config files etc
[06:37] <nickrud> marx2k: if you installed it as a deb,  sudo apt-get remove xammp should work
[06:38] <marx2k_> Rubin, it's telling me it isn't installed in the first place
[06:38] <CruCio> nope
[06:38] <CruCio>  i can't
[06:38] <Rubin> marx2k_ maybe its not under the name you think it is, or you alreday removed it
[06:38] <marx2k_> nickrud: Nope.
[06:38] <Viking667> hm. I'm still not able to get synaptic to not complain, about unauthenticated packages when I select universe/multiverse packages
[06:38] <CruCio> i have used terminal
[06:38] <CruCio> all the help
[06:38] <CruCio>  i could google
[06:38] <Psynaut> Zionpsyfer: Getting the same error.
[06:38] <CruCio> but still
[06:38] <badkitty> ghosTM55: Besides Ubuntu, you running any other OS?
[06:38] <CruCio> doesn't work
[06:38] <astro76> marx2k_: in synaptic if you click the origin tab, anything that is installed not in a current repo, will be listed under Local
[06:38] <nickrud> FluxD: never used putty into a ubuntu box, so if something strange is going on ...
[06:38] <marx2k_> Rubin: Well, Im in the same directory as the deb file and I know I didnt remove it since the directory and all the files are still there
[06:38] <FluxD> nickrud, ok I will check thru vnc
[06:38] <Rubin> marx2k, where ?
[06:39] <ghosTM55> badkitty: i used fedora before
[06:39] <marx2k_> Rubin: it installs to /opt/lampp
[06:39] <Rubin> marx2k_: find one of the files it installed, and type: dpkg -S /opt/lampp/filename
[06:39] <CruCio> c'mon guys
[06:39] <FluxD> nickrud, ty it changed
[06:39] <CruCio> i lil help
[06:39] <Rubin> it'll tell you what package is responsible
[06:39] <nintendonerd282> anyone play frets on fire?
[06:39] <badkitty> marx2k You still tweaking with that webserver lol
[06:39] <honda> how do i list processes running in the terminal
[06:39] <KyMc1985> got a beautiful red crash error just now (while waiting for the CD to load): I/O error  Error reading boot CD.  (top corner shows: 2042009F)
[06:39] <Viking667> honda: jobs
[06:39] <astro76> CruCio: what did you try?
[06:39] <honda> aww
[06:40] <niuq> !pastebin
[06:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:40] <nano__> Rubin: So just use this as a guide then?
[06:40] <ghosTM55> badkitty: i'm about to join the translate team of ubuntu after i graduate this year
[06:40] <badkitty> nintendonerd282: I would except I have a wireless keyboard and the lag screws everything up
[06:40] <Rubin> marx2k_, also, let this be a lesson to you about manhandling the package management system.
[06:40] <peaceful> ps ax @ honda
[06:40] <nintendonerd282> lol
[06:40] <nintendonerd282> ok
[06:40] <nintendonerd282> well
[06:40] <astro76> !enter | nintendonerd282
[06:40] <ubotu> nintendonerd282: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:40] <CruCio> i tried apt-get install sun-java6-jre and alot of things
[06:40] <Rubin> nano__ its just an interesting thing i found in google. not sure the cause.
[06:40] <nintendonerd282> where do you download the bonus songs too
[06:40] <marx2k_> Rubin: heh I didnt manhandle. I just did dpkg -i <packagename>.deb
[06:40] <nickrud> KyMc1985: probably a bad burn, check the disk md5 (see next link) to make sure the download is good, then burn again at a very low speed
[06:40] <nintendonerd282> sorry
[06:40] <CruCio>  i even tried with directory
[06:40] <astro76> CruCio: did you put sudo before apt-get?
[06:40] <nickrud> !md5 | KyMc1985
[06:40] <CruCio> but still
[06:40] <ubotu> KyMc1985: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:40] <CruCio> yes
[06:40] <CruCio>  i did
[06:40] <badkitty> ghosTM55: That would be aweome, you have great english and that would help out so much for translating into (imguessing mandarin?)
[06:40] <CruCio> it says
[06:40] <Rubin> marx2k_, you obtained a .deb from an ominus source and installed it. you took your life in your own hands ;)
[06:40] <KyMc1985> Did so, everything was a go.
[06:40] <astro76> CruCio: also if you want it to work in your browser, install sun-java6-plugin
[06:40] <nano__> Rubin: Ok
[06:41] <CruCio> E: Broken pakages
[06:41] <marx2k_> Rubin: I only followed the instructions in ubuntuforums :)
[06:41] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut:  fglrxinfo | grep direct shows Yes, correct?
[06:41] <nickrud> KyMc1985: then run the check cd option on the startup screen
[06:41] <Rubin> marx2k_, hehehe
[06:41] <astro76> !enter | CruCio
[06:41] <ubotu> CruCio: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:41] <Patrickva> I heard your mom looks like a gremlin.
[06:41] <Psynaut> Zionpsyfer: checking
[06:41] <Viking667> honda: by the way, "ps " also works.
[06:41] <nano__> how do i override resolv.conf?
[06:41] <astro76> CruCio: try sudo apt-get install -f
[06:41] <badkitty> KyMc1985: I have seen certain brands of CD's have problems burning the image correctly too along with burning too fast
[06:41] <Rubin> marx2k, generally, if a .deb is NOT in the package manager (apt-get or synaptec) there is a reason.
[06:41] <bazhang> Patrickva: you have a support question?
[06:42] <Psynaut> Zionpsyfer: currently not installed
[06:42] <Patrickva> I do, actually, bazhang
[06:42] <Patrickva> Do you?
[06:42]  * Viking667 departs
[06:42] <nano__> Rubin: how do i override resolv.conf?
[06:42] <CruCio> what would that do ?
[06:42] <bazhang> ask away Patrickva
[06:42] <misslecommander> if i add Repositories from CDROM, will it still require i have the Ubuntu CDROm in the tray when installing ?
[06:42] <Rubin> nano__ look in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[06:42] <astro76> CruCio: repair broken packages
[06:42] <CruCio> :|
[06:42] <ZionPsyfer> Ahhh, so you're not running with 3d acceleration.
[06:42] <CruCio> are ya sure ?
[06:42] <nintendonerd282> ok the frets on fire shell script wont open up for me. i double click and hit run. and nothign happens, i tried to run it in the terminal but the terminal just closed what am i doing wrong?
[06:42] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut:  Ati or Geforce card?
[06:43] <astro76> CruCio: indeed
[06:43] <ghosTM55> badkitty: ah , by the way , i'm a member of Magic Linux distro , and are u willing to join us ? for it's english doc ? it's a great Chinese linux distro
[06:43] <Psynaut> Geforce 7800GT OC 256 MB
[06:43] <Rubin> nano__  you need to tell dhcpd not to overwrite your changes. then just edit the file with your fav text editor under sudo, and change 192.168.1.1 to another nameserver that works. 128.193.4.20 is oregonstate's nameserver for example.
[06:43] <CruCio> Reading state information... Done
[06:43] <CruCio> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:43] <CruCio> ??
[06:43] <CruCio> thats all ?
[06:43] <nintendonerd282>  ok the frets on fire shell script wont open up for me. i double click and hit run. and nothign happens, i tried to run it in the terminal but the terminal just closed what am i doing wrong?
[06:43] <misslecommander> Psynut: just a note: when i use Nvidia-gtk-new driver, my system becomes real unstable, freezing and gfx goes haywire
[06:44] <badkitty> ghosTM55: I have no idea what help i could be... You write in mandarin? Was I correct?
[06:44] <Rubin> nano__ alternately, you can use the gui.. under the network settings dialog, theres a DNS tab. delet ethe 192.168.1.1 and add osu's there.
[06:44] <soldats> nintendonerd282, if noone knows no one knows, try not to ask too many times too quickly
[06:44] <nickrud> nano__: nameserver 208.67.222.222 <newline> nameserver 208.67.220.220 are good dns, it even searches google for you if it can't resolve
[06:44] <nintendonerd282> lol
[06:44] <nintendonerd282> ok fine
[06:44] <icesword> which file control the autostart program on linux?
[06:44] <nintendonerd282> sorry
[06:44] <Psynaut> misslecommander: should I go back to the nvidia-gtk?
[06:44] <ghosTM55> badkitty: yes
[06:44] <astro76> CruCio: maybe, try to install java again, if it doesn't work you should pastebin the output
[06:44] <CruCio> :(
[06:44] <Buyydee> hey. i'm using an intel core 2 duo processor which keeps switching between 800 mhz and 2200 mhz. now i'm watching a movie and this makes it very laggy. how can i switch to maximum performance?
[06:45] <misslecommander> Psynaut: ii would think only if you expreience random crashes and corrupted video displays
[06:45] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander:  Has he tried the driver package from Nvidia?
[06:45] <bazhang> ghosTM55: what channel?
[06:45] <CruCio> Broken packages :(
[06:45] <Psynaut> misslecommander: yeah.. no crashes or corrupted video yet.... just really laggy renderings and object draws in game on cedega
[06:45] <sanga> webcam
[06:45] <icesword> which file controls the autostart program on linux
[06:45] <CruCio> how come you guys got ur java to work ?
[06:46] <CruCio> how did you did it ?
[06:46] <sanga> hiiiiiiiiiii
[06:46] <badkitty> HI
[06:46] <astro76> CruCio: nothing to do with java, as I said you should pastebin your output and maybe someone can help
[06:46] <misslecommander> there goes my pc speaker beeping again
[06:46] <astro76> !paste | CruCio
[06:46] <ubotu> CruCio: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:46] <ghosTM55> bazhang: what do u mean?
[06:46] <sanga> how r u all
[06:46] <badkitty> bazhang: Your on a roll tonight eh
[06:47] <Odd-rationale> What is the command to end all apt processes?
[06:47] <soldats> icesword, admin > startup on the taskbar
[06:47] <bazhang> ghosTM55: for your magic linux? any channel such as this one--I'm fluent in Mandarin
[06:47] <sanga> ggighu
[06:47] <nano__> Rubin: how do i tell it not to override?
[06:47] <nano__> nickrud: thanks for the servers
[06:48] <icesword> soldats, i mean what file in /etc
[06:48] <Psynaut> misslecommander: should I load up nvidia-settings and see if I can tweak anything in there?
[06:48] <ghosTM55> bazhang: #magiclinux , but few people inside , where do u come from?
[06:48] <bazhang> ghosTM55: can we discuss in that channel?
[06:48] <xTheGoat121x_> Can someone check www.pidgin.im for me?  Am I the only one having problems getting on that site?
[06:48] <MasterNix> how do I start ssh daemon?
[06:48] <ghosTM55> bazhang: okay , i've joined in
[06:48] <CruCio> it says
[06:48] <Steve2922> what does it mean when it says I have to be "identified" do join a certain channel?
[06:48] <CruCio>  Package sun-java6-bin has no installation candidate
[06:48] <Buyydee> does no-one have an idea how to adjust performance settings in gutsy?
[06:49] <astro76> xTheGoat121x_: it appears to be down
[06:49] <soldats> !register | Steve2922
[06:49] <ubotu> Steve2922: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[06:49] <xTheGoat121x_> astro76, thanks... I appreciate it
[06:49] <Rubin> nano__ i dont remember the exact syntax, but in the man page for dhclient.conf it has them. you want to 'supersede' domain-name and domain-name-servers
[06:49] <misslecommander> Psynaut: are you running it in accelerated mode now ?
[06:50] <Psynaut> misslecommander: I can't answer that because I don't know :|
[06:50] <CruCio> so No help right ?
[06:50] <CruCio> for Java installation ?
[06:50] <nano__> Rubin: it says supersede domain-name fugue.com home.vix.com
[06:50] <icesword> soldats, is it /etc/rc.d
[06:50] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut: No, you're not. the fglrxinfo | grep Direct should return a line that says Yes, if you're in accelerated mode.
[06:50] <atomdog2003> fr500:  was that you who helped me with the ISO mount via smb mount?
[06:51] <Psynaut> Zionpsyfer: isn't fglrx ATI???
[06:51] <soldats> !startup
[06:51] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[06:51] <badkitty> atomdog2003: I think it was
[06:51] <Rubin> nano_, your dhclient.conf does now?
[06:51] <cookiemonster> how do you compile a source code to install an app
[06:51] <nano__> yes
[06:51] <misslecommander> Psynaut: good way to find out. right click desktop, choose Visual Effects Tab, choose Normal. it will tell you then
[06:51] <soldats> icesword, im not too sure since i havent used gnome in a while but see the links ubotu outputted
[06:51] <Rubin> nano_, huh. did you mess with it before?
[06:51] <CruCio> Java Installation help anyone ?
[06:51] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut: Dur, sorry.  I mean glrxinfo
[06:51] <nano__> Rubin: No
[06:51] <atomdog2003> fr500:  I got it working!  It was the firewall config I had on the windows machine.
[06:52] <icesword> !rc.d
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rc.d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <vegpuff> Odd-rationale,
[06:52] <Rubin> nano__, OH. yeah the # in front means 'comment'
[06:52] <Psynaut> zionpsyfer: hehe ok gonna try that
[06:52] <nano__> Rubin: I just reinstalled 7.10 tonight
[06:52] <Rubin> nano__: thats just an example
[06:52] <Odd-rationale> Sorry, I'm back. What is the command to end all apt processes?
[06:52] <icesword> !info rc.d
[06:52] <ubotu> Package rc.d does not exist in gutsy
[06:52] <nano__> Rubin: Ok
[06:52] <misslecommander> Psynaut: if it says you need to install the nvidia-gtk-new, then you are not running in accelerated mode.
[06:52] <astro76> CruCio: I had asked to pastebin your entire command and error output
[06:52] <icesword> ?rc.d
[06:52] <Rubin> nano__: so just like that only take out the # in front and change it.. :)
[06:52] <Psynaut> misslecommander: I have already installed the nvidia-gtk-new
[06:53] <Ellement> rubin: well got fglrx to install which is good. but restricted drivers still not working. so still cant install ati driver
[06:53] <computer> where does thunderbird store emails. the upgrade killed my data on ubuntu
[06:53] <nano__> Rubin: The whole file is an example...
[06:53] <misslecommander> Psynaut: but that will tell you if it is enabled, those require you to be in accelerated mode
[06:53] <nano__> Rubin: says its a sample config file
[06:53] <Rubin> Ellement, sorry im not really an expert in ati drivers. did you try running the restricted drivers manager?
[06:53] <cookiemonster> is there a compiler with a gui i can install from the add programs?
[06:53] <bullgard4> When will Ubuntu use the /proc/kcore file?
[06:53] <astro76> icesword: there's several places things are started, what are you looking for?
[06:53] <Rubin> nano__: yeah. uncomment the 2 lines and change the host to yours and the 127.0.0.1 to the dns server you want to use
[06:53] <misslecommander> Psynaut: i am new to linux, so please bear that in mind. i jave ran the nvidia-gtk-new with alot of system crashes/freezes
[06:54] <astro76> !ide | cookiemonster
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <icesword> astro76, i mean the system service,i want to add a program myself
[06:54] <Psynaut> misslecommander: no worries I appreciate the help.. I am digging through a lot of stuff myself being new and all as well :D
[06:54] <cookiemonster> umm
[06:54] <badkitty> cookiemonster: Much source code comes with directions on how to compile it
[06:54] <wenbo> does   anyone  can make a smil ubuntu live cd  on usb ???
[06:54] <cookiemonster> yea but it gives me errors
[06:54] <cookiemonster> wont let me install it
[06:54] <Ellement> rubin: thats ok ur help has been very useful. when i go to system settings > advanced > restricted drivers i get a popup saying " u dont need any restricted drivers"
[06:55] <soldats> !idle | cookiemonster
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about idle - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <misslecommander> Psynaut: ok, i just want to warn you, nothing worse than a complete system failure and a need for comple reinstall
[06:55] <astro76> cookiemonster: a gui won't help, you need to resolve the errors, usually with required libraries
[06:55] <Rubin> wenbo, google around, i think theres a few debian and ubuntu liveboot options for usb keys
[06:55] <cookiemonster> =[
[06:55] <cookiemonster> and they say linux is easier than windows
[06:55] <icesword> astro76, by,now i only found that /etc/rc.d/init.d store the information,but still don't know how it works
[06:55] <cookiemonster> ;p
[06:55] <Psynaut> misslecommander: I am prepared for it lol.
[06:55] <Rubin> cookiemonster, noone ever said that.
[06:55] <cookiemonster> ill go play with it for aminute
[06:55] <misslecommander> my pc speaker keeps beeping as i type, only does it after a few hours of running the system
[06:56] <astro76> icesword: is your program a true daemon, or just a script? because you can add things to rc.local
[06:56] <nano__> Rubin: says i dont have the permission to save the file
[06:56] <badkitty> wenbo: For sure this is a usb boot tutorial if you want to try slackware
[06:56] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut: Have you put your xorg.conf up on paste.ubuntu-nl.org yet?
[06:56] <Rubin> nano__, you need to use sudo to edit it. its a root owned file
[06:56] <misslecommander> Psynaut: this my second install, although its not hard to install, getting everything back is
[06:56] <nano__> sudo edit?
[06:56] <icesword> astro76, no,it is not a daemon,a dialer,which i use to gain ip address
[06:56] <Rubin> nano__: in a terminal, run sudo gedit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[06:57] <Psynaut> zionpsyfer: no I haven't.
[06:57] <astro76> nano__: sudoedit
[06:57] <MasterNix> how do I start ssh daemon?
[06:57] <Rubin> MasterNix, install the package called 'ssh'
[06:57] <cookiemonster> how do i login as root
[06:57] <astro76> icesword: it should be run before you log in or after?
[06:57] <Rubin> cookiemonster, sudo -s
[06:57] <astro76> !sudo | cookiemonster
[06:57] <ubotu> cookiemonster: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[06:57] <w00t`> w00ttttttt... now i have a clue in my problem! re:windows machine in LAN!
[06:57] <tockitj> Q: how to remove package conflict ? :-/
[06:57] <cookiemonster> errrm
[06:57] <badkitty> wenbo:  You can even check out http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[06:58] <w00t`> its about the firestarter!
[06:58] <cookiemonster> the readme says i need to run it under root
[06:58] <icesword> astro76, yes, i want it run after i log in
[06:58] <MasterNix> i think he has it
[06:58] <Rubin> tockitj, whats the error exactly? you can try to remove affected packages with apt-get remove .. or sometimes apt-get -f install will resolve things.
[06:58] <MasterNix> doesn't ubuntu come with ssh?
[06:58] <badkitty> cookiemonster: try sudo -i
[06:58] <tockitj> Rubin, E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[06:58] <nano__> Rubin: And change hostname to what?
[06:58] <astro76> cookiemonster: yes sudo allows to run a command as root, sudo -s or sudo -i gives a root shell
[06:58] <w00t`> how do i uninstall firestarter? in add/remove.... lemme try that :)
[06:58] <astro76> !startup | icesword
[06:58] <ubotu> icesword: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[06:58] <badkitty> MasterNix: I dont think so
[06:58] <Rubin> MasterNix, the ssh package installs the sshd (server)
[06:58] <NoelJB> and the ssh client
[06:58] <tockitj> Rubin, apt-get -f instnall # produces same message
[06:59] <Rubin> nano__: anything you want really.
[06:59] <Rubin> tockitj, paste it to pastebin.ca so we can see exactly whats up
[06:59] <icesword> astro76, yes,i will see that,thank you
[06:59] <nano__> Rubin: Oh really now? :D
[07:00] <Rubin> nano__: its just for advanced cases
[07:00] <Rubin> its sent to the dhcpserver i think, and is used as a default search domain if you type a host without a domain
[07:00] <nano__> and after i do all of this... restart?
[07:00] <MasterNix> ok he installed ssh and sshd how do we start the deamon please?
[07:00] <NoelJB> MasterNix, I'd have to check, but I believe that the desktop installs just install the ssh client, and you have to install the server.  I suspect that the server installs install the ssh server by default.
[07:00] <CruCio> link
[07:00] <Rubin> nano__: yeah.. or even unplug and replug should do it.
[07:00] <CruCio> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52373/
[07:01] <nano__> the laptop?
[07:01] <Rubin> MasterNix, it should start by itself.. but /etc/init.d/anything start|stop|restart etc is how you manage services
[07:01] <nano__> Rubin: I'm going to connect wirelessly
[07:01] <niuq> i have this .rpm program (maya 8), how could i make it work for ubuntu?
[07:01] <niuq> i've heard the use of alien command is not recommended so, there is another way?
[07:01] <emma> Does anyone here use Digg?
[07:01] <Rubin> nano__: give it a try ;)
[07:01] <badkitty> MasterNix: Try /etc/ini.d/ssh ??
[07:02] <CruCio> Astro how do i clear my history  and delete all the stuff my ubuntu saves while browsing the internet ?
[07:02] <badkitty> init.d**
[07:02] <Rubin> niuq: its not reccomended for people who dont know what they are doing. its ok in some cases
[07:02] <Taggard> Does anyone have any idea why my vhost that is enabled and the servername matches my domain name exactly isn't working?
[07:02] <Rubin> niuq, if your trying to install an RPM, get the ubuntu version of whatever it is instead
[07:02] <CruCio> and how do i save link as faverite ?
[07:02] <niuq> Rubin: i haven't found a ubuntu version for maya
[07:02] <Rubin> Taggard, vhost?
[07:03] <astro76> CruCio: in firefox it's tool>clear private data, as for your other problem, it would be nice to see the exact command and output copied and pasted from the terminal, not one line of output out of context
[07:03] <Taggard> Rubin: Apache virtual host
[07:03] <NoelJB> MasterNix: /etc/iniit.d/ssh start ought to do it.
[07:03] <kdubois> niuq: you can use alien or compile the code yourself..
[07:03] <tockitj> Rubin, problems started when i have added "http://ppa.launchpad.net/amaranth/ubuntu" as third-party repository
[07:03] <MasterNix> thanks NOel
[07:03] <MasterNix> NoelJB,
[07:03] <Rubin> Taggard, some people posted this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66859 which seems to suggest you can do it with alien
[07:03] <badkitty> MasterNix: Isn't that what I siad earlier?
[07:03] <astro76> CruCio: you can also try fix broken packages in synaptic, but it should be the same as apt-get install -f I think
[07:03] <marx2k_> !lamp
[07:03] <niuq> Rubin: i just get the .rpm, how can i compile that?
[07:03] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:03] <NoelJB> MasterNix, I'll assume you fixed my "ii" typo  :-)
[07:03] <Rubin> Taggard, oh. try #apache
[07:04] <nano__> Rubin: No Go
[07:04] <kdubois> niuq: is it closed source?
[07:04] <w00t`> now my ubuntu & window machine working properly :)
[07:04] <Rubin> nano__: cat the resolv.conf again and make sure your changes stayed
[07:04] <niuq> Rubin: i think it is, maya 8 for 3d animation
[07:04] <w00t`> fr500,  you there? i solved my problem :)
[07:04] <Taggard> Rubin: Good idea
[07:04] <CruCio> all my broken packages had been corrected
[07:04] <Rubin> niuq: rpms are usually pre-compiled binaries
[07:04] <CruCio> so the -f didn't really work
[07:04] <niuq> kdubois: i think it is, maya 8 for 3d animation
[07:04] <wj32> hey everyone im back
[07:04] <w00t`> fr500,  thanks for the help! if you can see this :)
[07:05] <wj32> the last time i said i lost my password
[07:05] <astro76> niuq: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66859
[07:05] <niuq> Rubin: mm ok... didn't really help me, sorry
[07:05] <wj32> i forgot my gmail password... so can anyone here send me a reset email again?
[07:05] <w00t`> Firestarter is the problem :)
[07:05] <CruCio> astro , you got java installed on you're ubuntu ?
[07:05] <astro76> CruCio: yes
[07:05] <CruCio> am on my ps3
[07:05] <CruCio> :|
[07:05] <CruCio> how ?
[07:05] <astro76> CruCio: seriously?
[07:05] <niuq> astro76: hey thx
[07:06] <CruCio> yes
[07:06] <astro76> CruCio: that's powerpc, java won't work on that
[07:06] <CruCio> am using ubuntu(PS3)
[07:06] <astro76> AFAIK
[07:06] <nano__> same nameserver 192.168.1.1
[07:06] <Rubin> nano__, so it overwrote it again.
[07:06] <kdubois> niuq: you can use alien to convert the package, or you can manually extract the files and place them in their proper location. the second route is not advised, but should work nonetheless
[07:06] <CruCio> actually it chould
[07:06] <CruCio> is Xchat and VLC player does
[07:06] <Vaxen> my filesystem just turned only readable :S any fix for this?
[07:06] <lazy247x> i have a problem with wifi router? help
[07:06] <CruCio>  i don't see wht it shouldn't
[07:06] <Rubin> nano__: go ahead and reboot to make sure dhcpclient is reading your changed config file. then edit the resolv.conf again and then try it...
[07:07] <lazy247x> if says invailded ip address -- not working
[07:07] <badkitty> lazy247x: Whats the problem
[07:07] <astro76> CruCio: xchat and vlc are opensource softwares which can be recompiled for different architectures
[07:07] <CruCio> i just typed in apt-get install Xchat
[07:07] <niuq> astro76:
[07:07] <badkitty> lazy247x: That is for the router's IP?
[07:07] <nano__> Rubin: Hold on a sec
[07:07] <CruCio> but i really think ubuntu should work
[07:07] <CruCio> because
[07:07] <CruCio> PS3 -> PowerPC
[07:07] <lazy247x> what do u mean?
[07:08] <soldats> !enter > CruCio
[07:08] <lazy247x> its a links router
[07:08] <lazy247x> i tryed connecting to my router but doesnt work
[07:08] <badkitty> lazy247x: Is the router giving you that error, or the machine trying to connect to the router?
[07:08] <astro76> CruCio: that's great, and it does, except that java is closed source so you're at Sun's mercy of providing binaries
[07:08] <astro76> CruCio: see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-81c3789bc76872336f69a7af90d1759ef38eeb64
[07:08] <Rubin> i thought java was gpl now?
[07:08] <randomice> hello, I've installed the newest version of xserver-xorg-core (2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1) and I could not start eclipse anymore.
[07:08] <badkitty> lazy247x: Is your router set for dhcp?
[07:08] <lazy247x> yes
[07:09] <badkitty> Is your box set to get IP from router or set as a static IP?
[07:09] <randomice> does anyone ahve similar problems?
[07:09] <lazy247x> can my comcast have an internet problem
[07:09] <CruCio> hmm
[07:09] <lazy247x> no
[07:09] <lazy247x> its work earlyer today
[07:09] <CruCio> i still can't get myself into believing this
[07:09] <badkitty> lazy247x: Did you reset the router?
[07:09] <lazy247x> no
[07:09] <icesword> what these files are?/etc/rc.d/rc0.d rc1.d...
[07:10] <badkitty> lazy247x: Any other pc's connected to the router?
[07:10] <tockitj> Q: apt-get related problem, how could this be fixed: "E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages."
[07:10] <Rubin> icesword, they tell the system what to start and stop for various modes (runlevels)
[07:10] <lazy247x> can i do it from an computer or do i have to reset it from the box
[07:10] <lazy247x> ya one other computer
[07:10] <emman> anybody has an idea about flash for ubuntu user?
[07:10] <grekkos> is there a way to make VLC rebuild the index of a video file or something like that? i seem to be getting a lot of dropped frames... but the audio continues flawlessly
[07:10] <emman> flash maker
[07:10] <badkitty> lazy247x: You usually can reset it from a computer if you can get into the routers config pages
[07:11] <soldats> emman, like flash mx
[07:11] <lazy247x> how do i do that?
[07:11] <Rubin> lazy247x, pull the power plug on it.. count to 10, plug it back in.
[07:11] <niuq> emman: like flash cs3?
[07:11] <cookiemonster> how do i get windows to read a linux partition
[07:11] <nano__> Rubin: now its not even timing out
[07:11] <Rubin> cookiemonster, http://www.fs-driver.org/
[07:11] <emman> yes
[07:11] <badkitty> lazy247x: Although if that other computer is able to access internet it's not an issue with the router having connectivity with the SP
[07:11] <icesword> Rubin, i see,thank you,but i enter rc0.d ,i found k00xfs....what is that?why does it have k00 something?
[07:11] <emman> flash mx
[07:11] <grekkos> emman: you have to use wine and run flash mx through that
[07:11] <niuq> emman: i've tested flash 8 on ubuntu it works pretty well, you should use wine
[07:12] <Rubin> icesword, dpkg -S /path/to/file will tell you what package is responsible for a file
[07:12] <hangthedj> join ##windows
[07:12] <badkitty> cookiemonster: I think there is a good programm from the same makers as driveimagexml
[07:12] <icesword> Rubin, so linux has six runlevel?
[07:12] <soldats> emman, i dont think its possible, not even through wine. but that was a while back. it may be possible with wine but its a question for #winehq
[07:12] <ghosTM55> badkitty: virtualbox running toooooooo slow T_T
[07:12] <Rubin> icesword, i guess. i only ever use 1 and 2 ;)
[07:12] <emman> i mean equivalent to mx. an open source flashmx
[07:12] <randomice> hello, I've installed the newest version of xserver-xorg-core (2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1) and I could not start eclipse anymore.
[07:12] <soldats> niuq, flash 8 isnt flash mx
[07:12] <ZionPsyfer> icesword: Here's a good quickie explanation. =)   http://www.help2go.com/Tutorials/Linux%10UNIX/Linux_Runlevels.html
[07:12] <badkitty> ghosTM55: What are you trying to run? What are your system specs? How much virtual memory di you give it ;-p
[07:12] <icesword> Rubin, so you do not use x,you are great
[07:13] <Rubin> icesword, er, i do use x
[07:13] <ghosTM55> badkitty: 256mb memory for it
[07:13] <niuq> soldats: just an older version?
[07:13] <badkitty> ghosTM55: Well thats why haha, how much RAM does your physical pc have?
[07:14] <MasterNix> I can't connect to him.  his sshd is started
[07:14] <MasterNix> now what?
[07:14] <CruCio> Java doesn't work on PowerPC right ?
[07:14] <ghosTM55> badkitty: 512mb , it's an old box
[07:14] <Rubin> icesword, each distro of linux does runlevels differently. ubuntu uses 2 for normal startup
[07:14] <CruCio> you said astro
[07:14] <emman> any open source software like flash mx?
[07:14] <icesword> Rubin, yes i see
[07:14] <jlulian38> What did I do D=!
[07:14] <soldats> niuq, flash 8 is an old version but its for playing .flv files. flash mx is a studio enviroment to create and edit flash movies and videos etc
[07:14] <jlulian38> All videos are playing in black and white
[07:14] <wobblywu> that "99% of your hdd space is in use" notice I get, is there some configuration for it anywhere? as in, any place I can change the percentage it should warn on, and/or disable it altogether?
[07:15] <NoelJB> MasterNix, can you ping his IP address?
[07:15] <astro76> CruCio: this page says https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-81c3789bc76872336f69a7af90d1759ef38eeb64
[07:15] <ZionPsyfer> CruCio: you should read that link you were given.
[07:15] <badkitty> ghosTM55: Well you should give it as much as your physical computer has... virtual windows can be slow...(regular windows is slow!!! virtual can only be as good at best
[07:15] <ghosTM55> badkitty: i want to get a vmware to work on my ubuntu , but i don't know where to download it , i googled it before , but failed
[07:15] <ronino> hi
[07:15] <Rubin> wobblywu, its a bad idea to run that close to full hard disk.. you'll get terribly fragmented etc. why doyo uwant to disable it?
[07:15] <Ellement> rubin: am doing manual driver install now. i have to type the command sudo gedit .... except console saying gedit command not found
[07:15] <soldats> !vmware
[07:15] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:15] <ronino> What package do I have to install to get "mkinitrd"?
[07:15] <NoelJB> MasterNix, can you expand on "I can't connect to him"
[07:15] <soldats> ghosTM55, see above
[07:15] <badkitty> ghosTM55: Why?VMWARE wont be any faster
[07:15] <wobblywu> Rubin, I don't want to disable it, I want to put it on 90 or 95%
[07:15] <Rubin> Ellement, huh. no gedit? is this ubuntu or kubuntu or what?
[07:15] <MasterNix> no I can't ping him :-(
[07:16] <ghosTM55> badkitty: i see
[07:16] <Rubin> wobblywu, ahh
[07:16] <CruCio> hmm
[07:16] <wobblywu> Rubin, it currently triggers once I have <1MB left, which is just worthless
[07:16] <MasterNix> im trying to set up compiz for my newbie friend NoelJB
[07:16] <biouser> vim is my favorite editor
[07:16] <soldats> Rubin, gedit is optional at install afaik
[07:16] <CruCio> astro you're using X86 ?
[07:16] <Odd-rationale> vegpuff: Are you still there?
[07:16] <astro76> CruCio: yes
[07:16] <NoelJB> ghosTM55, I use VMware all the time.  You get VMware from www.vmware.com.  You can install Player or Server for free. Workstation and ESX are fee-based.
[07:16] <ghosTM55> NoelJB: it's free ???
[07:16] <wobblywu> Rubin, i'm aware of the fragmentation issues, but until someone makes either an ext3 defrag or I buy a new hdd that's something I'll have to live with :)
[07:16] <CruCio> ohh wll
[07:16] <NoelJB> MasterNix, is his server on a public IP address?
[07:16] <CruCio> guess am screwed
[07:16] <biouser> insert to edit, 'esc' :w to write, 'esc' :q to quit
[07:16] <biouser> in vim
[07:16] <biouser> there are lots of cheat sheets
[07:17] <NoelJB> ghosTM55, VMware Server (successor to VMware GSX) is free.
[07:17] <ZionPsyfer> CruCio: did you read that link?
[07:17] <biouser> it doesn't leave garbage files around
[07:17] <NoelJB> ghosTM55, As is VMware Player.
[07:17] <ghosTM55> NoelJB: i see , thx a lot , i'll have a look at it , is there any diff between player and server?
[07:17] <biouser> CruCio, how so?
[07:17] <badkitty> NoelJB: You know what pissed me off.. It took me days to get the ID to install VMWARE again... and when I installed a newer one on my GF's laptop, it installed everything except for the actual player and  server
[07:17] <CruCio> Hope they fix this problem on the upcoming Hardy Heron
[07:17] <NoelJB> ghosTM55, VMware Workstation (premimum over Player) is not free, nor is VMware ESX (premium over Server).
[07:17] <nano__> Rubin: it keeps changing the second nameserver to the old one
[07:18] <NoelJB> ghosTM55, yes, major differences.
[07:18] <ghosTM55> NoelJB: i see , thx
[07:18] <Rubin> nano_, hmm. it goes in order, so that might be ok
[07:18] <ghosTM55> NoelJB: maybe player is suitable for me
[07:18] <nano__> but its still timing out
[07:18] <NoelJB> badkitty, I'd need more detail.  I've installed VMware (Workstation) on XP, Vista, Feisty, Gutsy and Hardy.
[07:18] <nano__> Rubin: but its still timing out
[07:18] <Rubin> nano__so resolv.conf says what exactly?
[07:18] <NoelJB> Well, also NT, 2000, etc, since I've used it since the late '90s.
[07:19] <chr11> apparently in order to play an avi file... there has to be something in it
[07:19] <icesword> Rubin, yes ,i got it,the file start with s means start,k means kill ,
[07:19] <chr11> I had all the right codecs
[07:19] <badkitty> NoelJB: I mean when it installed in vista it installed the everything necessary exceot the actual player and server. For example the network connections were setup but when I navigate to run it, it simply wasn't there
[07:19] <chr11> nothing in the files to play
[07:19] <KyMc1985> Rubin: that same error "Kernel panic" is happening again with v7.10 x86 release
[07:19] <nano__> hmmm
[07:19] <CruCio> well am off to bed
[07:19] <chr11> thanks anyway badkitty
[07:19] <Rubin> icesword, yeah. and those are all just symlinks to /etc/init.d scripts
[07:19] <badkitty> chr11: Whats up?
[07:19] <Rubin> KyMc1985, bummer :(
[07:19] <chr11> thanks for your help..
[07:20] <chr11> with totem
[07:20] <badkitty> chr11: Sure man
[07:20] <nano__> Rubin: supersede line is still a comment with the fugue.com etcetera
[07:20] <chr11> I had everything I needed though...
[07:20] <NoelJB> badkitty, what were you installing?  VMware Server?  Which version?   Actually, nevermind.  You were installing on Vista, which is OT for this channel.
[07:20] <badkitty> ghosTM55: The player can only play existing VMs so you would need to download appliances
[07:20] <chr11> my avi file I was trying to play was empty
[07:20] <astro76> icesword: I thought you said this was to run after you login?
[07:20]  * chr11 pounds his head
[07:20] <badkitty> NoelJB: Yah no big deal.. I have in on my PC which is what counts.. lol
[07:20] <ghosTM55> badkitty: okay
[07:21] <Rubin> nano_, er.. resolv.conf should only contain 2 lines, one that says 'search' and one that says 'nameserver'
[07:21] <NoelJB> badkitty, or use VMware server, which can create them.  and there is a 3rd party tool that can also set them up, IIRC.
[07:21] <chr11> night and thanks again
[07:21] <Rubin> nano__: your talking about /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf ?
[07:21] <nano__> Rubin: yes
[07:21] <icesword> astro76, i just want to learn linux,and want to know how it start,maybe i just did not describe myself clearly
 where you press alt + 1, 2, 3 etc and create more x enviroments?
[07:21] <Rubin> nano__: could you just throw both files on pastebin.ca so i can check what you did?
[07:21] <compy> is it possible to have two different sessions of x running, ie running xfce and fluxbox at the same time
[07:21] <compy> where you press alt + 1, 2, 3 etc and create more x enviroments?
[07:22] <nano__> hold on
[07:22] <astro76> badkitty: http://www.easyvmx.com/
[07:22] <CruCio> Astro , could you play games like starcraft or warcraft 3 on you're ubuntu x86 ?
[07:22] <Rubin> compy: yes
[07:22] <badkitty> NoelJB: Yep, Im aware of that... but for ghost he wanted to have a windows xp setup, so he'd have toa actually get the server and install it himself.
[07:22] <nano__> Rubin: both files? isnt it only one?
[07:22] <compy> Rubin, sweet
[07:22] <Rubin> nano__: dhcpclient overwrites resolv.conf. so 1st your telling it to do so differently, and then your checking that its done it right. resolv.conf is what the system uses to do DNS resolution (turn names into ip addresses)
[07:23] <astro76> compy: you can (they will be F7, F8,...), and easy way to do so is to go to apps > system tools > new login (edit your menus if this item is not there)
[07:23] <badkitty> astro76: wow thats cool, they can do Vm's for windows?
[07:23] <badkitty> astro76: (without getting into trouble)
[07:23] <astro76> badkitty: just a blank vm image you can install anything in
[07:23] <Rubin> nano__: so you need to make the proper lines in dhclient.conf first.. then look at resolv.conf to see that its correct.
[07:24] <compy> astro76, thanks ill do that
[07:24] <badkitty> astro76: So it doesn't actually install the software - minus registration, it just prepares the Machine to handle an install?
[07:25] <astro76> compy: also I think this is the same as the "switch user" option when you hit the power button in gnome
[07:25] <icesword> astro76, then ,what does the number mean,like /etc/rc.d/rc0.d/k00avahi-daemon, and k10wine,so what does this number mean?
[07:25] <compy> ok cool
[07:25] <astro76> badkitty: exactly
[07:25] <compy> thanks
[07:25] <Rubin> icesword, they are run alphabetically. the number helps insure the order
[07:26] <misslecommander> Rubin: you know alot about alot
[07:26] <astro76> icesword: k means to kill, the two digits are to force an order... if you want to learn more search for "sysv init"
[07:26] <Rubin> misslecommander, i know a little about a lot.
[07:26] <astro76> or system V init
[07:26] <oddalot> is there a program that can test for what resolution my monitor is actually putting out, because it says 93hz, but i don't believe it
[07:26] <badkitty> astro76: Thats still pretty darn handy... I noticed they have an 'experimental' directx and 3d accelleration function. I wish they would add an option to enable physical support of GFX cards in VM environment..
[07:27] <oddalot> anyone?
[07:27] <icesword> yes, thank you all,astro76 ,Rubin
[07:27] <oddalot> bueller?
[07:27] <marx2k_> Having an issue here... I had xampp installed but then removed it. but now when I try to going to my site (without xampp installed) it still is going to http://localhost/xampp
[07:27] <NoelJB> badkitty, VMware is working on supporting a more sophisticated virtualized video card.
[07:28] <Rubin> oddalot, i'm looking, but i don't think there is one :/
[07:28] <nano__> Rubin: I can get you one... the dhclient.conf. resolv.conf is disappearing when i put it on the flash drive (not using the pc with the problem so...)
[07:28] <tockitj> Rubin, is it comon for apt-get to break ?
[07:28] <Zloog> oddalot what video card do you have?
[07:28] <badkitty> NoelJB: That would be nice, its one of the main things that forces me to have to dualboot
[07:28] <oddalot> yeah...because my monitor goes into this mode, and it says 60hz on the screen, but in the settings for ubuntu it says 93hz
[07:28] <Rubin> oddalot, xvidtune maybe?
[07:28] <oddalot> hmm
[07:29] <Rubin> tockitj, it rarely breaks if you stick to supported repositories and .deb files
[07:29] <misslecommander> now that you say that, mine is set at 60hz, yet my monitor tells me its 85hz
[07:29] <Zloog> just what brand
[07:29] <oddalot> ok
[07:29] <Rubin> tockitj, if you get stuff from rpms or 3d parties.. yeah.
[07:29] <nano__> Rubin: http://pastebin.ca/859573
[07:29] <oddalot> i'll try it, hope this doesn't break my computer
[07:29] <Rubin> oddalot, dont change anything with xvidtune. just look at it and quit
[07:29] <Zloog> Oddalot: what brand video card do you have?
[07:29] <misslecommander> sure does lookd like 60hz, i set it to 85 and after reboot it will tell me "out of range"
[07:30] <oddalot> nvidia fx5600
[07:30] <misslecommander> i keep it at 60hz now
[07:30] <nano__> Rubin: let ya see the foolishness i did...
[07:30] <oddalot> it's crt, my eyes, the goggles do nothing
[07:30] <Rubin> nano__: that looks correct
[07:30] <nano__> hmmm
[07:30] <Rubin> nano__: now what does resolv.conf say exactly?
[07:30] <tockitj> Rubin, i did not know that :-) is there general way to repair this condition ?
[07:31] <Rubin> tockitj, no.. it depends whats hanging it up
[07:31] <Rubin> tockitj, bad packages can really mess things up sometimes...
[07:31] <oddalot> it really just looks like it's at 60 hz...because it hurts my head
[07:31] <nano__> nameserver 208.67.222.222
[07:31] <nano__> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[07:31] <misslecommander> its 60hz i know, but it is funny my monitor reports it as 85hz. 60hz bad for the eyes
[07:32] <Rubin> nano__: hrm. i wonder whats going on then
[07:32] <Rubin> nano__ try this: host google.com 208.67.222.222
[07:32] <misslecommander> same issue here oddalot nvidia
[07:32] <tockitj> Rubin, oh thanks.. i'm playing with `strace apt-get ... 2>&1 | cut -d" -f2` right now -- tring to figure out where is he getting info what to install and what not :-/
[07:32] <Rubin> tockitj, LOL
[07:32] <badkitty> please dont say bad things about nvidia... it hurts my feelings
[07:32] <oddalot> well...i would just manually edit xorg.conf....but my monitor is so old i can't get the specs on it
[07:33] <nano__> Rubin: timed out
[07:33] <tockitj> Rubin, seems /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin is broken -- and it is binary :-(
[07:33] <fraroco> hello there.
[07:33] <soldats> oddalot, not even from google??
[07:33] <misslecommander> i didnt notice it till you said. then i checked what the monitor says it is. i can tell , its 60hz, it hurts my eyes too
[07:33] <Rubin> nano__: ahh. so the router is also BLOCKING dns requests, in additon to serving bad ones.
[07:33] <fraroco> somebody know something about spdbv.Linux: ../../src/xcb_lock.c:77: _XGetXCBBuffer: Assertion `((int) ((xcb_req) - (dpy->request)) >= 0)' failed.
[07:33] <fraroco> ?
[07:33] <oddalot> nah...google has let me down for the last time
[07:33] <meson10> Hi.. i have not been able to get my "hda-intel" working.... i have tried installing it all possible ways,[src and apt] but ti still is not able to detect my sound card
[07:33] <Rubin> nano__: can you get a better one? or figure out somehow whats wrong with it? what kind is it?
[07:33] <soldats> oddalot, what make model
[07:33] <wenbo> sudo apt-get install x-windows
[07:34] <Extravert> anyone know what causes video to be scrambled?
[07:34] <oddalot> Hitachi RasterOps Mc 7515
[07:34] <Rubin> meson10, with 7.x series of ubuntu that should just work, does it not?
[07:34] <nano__> Rubin: shouldnt be deffective as im using it to come here
[07:34] <meson10> Rubin: Nopes... :(
[07:34] <Rubin> nano__ could be it works but is doing something odd linux doesnt like
[07:34] <xeek> hi... anyone can help me on installing ubuntu?
[07:34] <nano__> aztech sytems or something?
[07:35] <meson10> Rubin: No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found. .. this is the latest
[07:35] <meson10> xeek: ASK
[07:35] <oddalot> xeek, what is the problem?
[07:35] <nano__> hmmm
[07:35] <Rubin> nano__: paste the error it gives you again about bad request? i lost it
[07:35] <bazhang> xeek: what is your issue?
[07:35] <badkitty> xeek: easy just follow the instructions
[07:35] <Rubin> meson10, huh ok
[07:35] <nano__> Rubin: Warning: Message parser reports malformed message packet
[07:35] <misslecommander> oddalot: someone had directed me to this, to reconfigure to vidcard as well as other devices, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:36] <oddalot> i already have done that misslecommander but thanks
[07:36] <fraroco> nodoby?
[07:36] <Rubin> nano__: try this: dig google.com @192.168.1.1
[07:36] <xeek> oddalot, badkitty, i want to dualboot with w****ws
[07:36] <phreck> sigh
[07:36] <phreck> when will they fix the flash issue
[07:36] <oddalot> install windows first
[07:36] <bazhang> 2012 phreck
[07:36] <misslecommander> oddalot: it didnt change anything for you ?
[07:36] <wers> other than orca, is there an app that would read text for me? :D
[07:36] <oddalot> then install ubuntu, then make two extra partitions for ubuntu, one as ext3, and one for swap
[07:36] <phreck> lol
[07:37] <oddalot> misslecommander: still has bad refresh rates
[07:37] <bazhang> !info festival
[07:37] <ubotu> festival: general multi-lingual speech synthesis system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.3-21ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 680 kB, installed size 2048 kB
[07:37] <badkitty> xeek: you know how to set up a partition in addition to your windows partition?
[07:37] <soldats> oddalot, http://www.tradeloop.com/m/products/product_view.cfm?View=7845
[07:37] <xeek> oddalot,..,is there partitioning tool except part.magic(free)
[07:37] <oddalot> !gparted
[07:37] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[07:37] <meson10> Rubin: Any help?
[07:37] <oddalot> ^^gparted
[07:37] <nano__> Rubin: Got answer:
[07:37] <misslecommander> oddalot: there is a URL i can give u that supposedly can fix the issue, but i tried it, and i got a random "out of range" message on reboot
[07:38] <Ellement> help: in manual install of video card, i have to enter sudo aticonfig --initial. its telling me to copy config file template to /etc/XII. not sure how i go about this. thanks for any help
[07:38] <badkitty> xeek: Ubuntu has gparted which can resize the win partition during the install of ubuntu
[07:38] <nano__> Rubin: Warning recursion requested but not available
[07:38] <misslecommander> i got lucky to even get back in to fix it, i since backed up my /etc
[07:38] <bazhang> xeek: listen to badkitty on this :}
[07:38] <oddalot> soldats: that link doesn't give any specs on the monitor
[07:38] <xeek> oddalot,ubotu: is installing !gparted need internet conn.?
[07:38] <nano__> Rubin: some other randomness
[07:38] <oddalot> download and burn the live cd
[07:38] <soldats> oddalot, refresh rate is 75 hz
[07:39] <oddalot> refresh rate of 75hz doesn't work
[07:39] <oddalot> and it can go higher than that
[07:39] <badkitty> xeek: You have livecd yet?
[07:39] <oddalot> i know, because i use 85hz in windoes
[07:39] <oddalot> windows*
[07:39] <Rubin> nano__: here is what i get http://pastebin.ca/859585
[07:39] <badkitty> more like windoesn't
[07:39] <bazhang> haha
[07:39] <oddalot> rofl
[07:39] <soldats> lol
[07:39] <xeek> badkitty, oddalot: do u mean qparted live-cd or ubuntu live-cd?
[07:40] <badkitty> ubuntu livecd
[07:40] <oddalot> gparted live cd
[07:40] <oddalot> adn ubuntu cd
[07:40] <meson10> Hi.. i have not been able to get my "hda-intel" working.... i have tried installing it all possible ways,[src and apt] but ti still is not able to detect my sound card.. any HELp?
[07:40] <badkitty> oddalot: ubuntu livecd has gparted on it
[07:40] <oddalot> oh...didn't know that
[07:40] <oddalot> i figured it would be harder for him that way
[07:40] <nano__> Rubin: nah
[07:40] <tockitj> Rubin, with little bashing i've grep-ed ALL files that apt-get used open() on trying to find bad packages - it seems that ONLY /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin mathes :-(( why did they have to use binary -- wouldnt xml do it :-/
[07:40] <oddalot> because he would have to install windows first
[07:40] <badkitty> oddalot: yeah during install it brings it up
[07:40] <bazhang> meson10: you have installed both on your system?
[07:40] <xeek> badkitty, oddalot:i've ubuntu live-cd, but not !gparted
[07:41] <Rubin> tockitj, your using a hammer instead of a screwdriver
[07:41] <badkitty> xeek: You have windows installed already?
[07:41] <meson10> bazhang: Kind of Yes.
[07:41] <xeek> badkitty, i'm sorry.. i plan to buy new windows-pc and install ubuntu..
[07:42] <badkitty> xeek: You want to have windows installed first... trust me
[07:42] <xeek> badkitty, yap!!
[07:42] <oddalot> wait..can the ubuntu cd resize the partitions?
[07:42] <xeek> how to do !gparted?
[07:42] <tockitj> Rubin, i've allready tried all apt-get options. google showed that most forum threads about this error end with no solution :-/
[07:43] <badkitty> xeek: All you need is ubuntu livecd
[07:43] <meson10> bazhang: yes..i have installed both
[07:43] <badkitty> xeek: ubuntu livecd has gparted
[07:43] <Rubin> nano__: this could be an ipv6 related bug. hmm
[07:43] <nano__> Rubin: I'm going to shut off the router
[07:43] <badkitty> oddalot: yep
[07:43] <nano__> Rubin: be back
[07:43] <Rubin> nano__: k
[07:43] <xeek> badkitty:in live-mode or on installing proc.?
[07:43] <tockitj> Rubin, there is probably better solution, but -- main reason i've switched from slack to ubuntu is nice package manager. not it feels disapointing :-/
[07:43] <oddalot> i really don't remember seeing that
[07:43] <oddalot> i only could delete and create partitions
[07:43] <tockitj> s/not/now/
[07:43] <badkitty> xeek:  Wait, you have windows installed?
[07:43] <bazhang> meson10: gutsy hda-intel sound card no sound? have you looked at any of the wikis/comprehensive sound card guide on ubuntuforums?
[07:44] <Rubin> tockitj, what exactly is the problem?
[07:44] <meson10> bazhang: Yes... it installs it all.. but its just not doing any good.
[07:44] <xeek> badkitty: yes i've (i mean i planned it :)
[07:44] <tockitj> Rubin, just a sec -- i'll pastebin everything
[07:44]  * Rubin brb
[07:45] <bazhang> meson10: you've done the ubuntuforums guide then?
[07:45] <badkitty> xeek: Well as soon as you install windows thats when you install ubuntu
[07:45] <arooni> hey folks; i keep hearing what sounds like a hard drive shutting down and spinning up.... i'm guessing its not the one i installed ubuntu on or i wouldn't be talking to you....  ;p  how can i find out what's going on and fix it?
[07:45] <meson10> bazhang: Yeap.
[07:45] <oddalot> hard drives usually make noises like that a few months before they die
[07:45] <bazhang> meson10: and the hda intel factoid from the bot?
[07:46] <Extravert> anyone have a video problem?
[07:46] <xeek> so, it's while installing proc?
[07:46] <badkitty> funny... i've never had a hard drive die on me....
[07:46] <meson10> bazhang: how do i do that?
[07:46] <oddalot> i've had so many
[07:46] <oddalot> it boggles the mind
[07:46] <KyMc1985> not here just weird EIP errors
[07:46] <bazhang> Extravert: what is your precise question? you are allowed only one you know :}
[07:46] <jlulian38> Apparently the X11 renderer doesn't support color on my machine anymore
[07:46] <jlulian38> GL works though o_O
[07:46] <soldats> badkitty, you can make it die :)
[07:46] <bazhang> !hdaintel
[07:46] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[07:46] <badkitty> xeek: After windows is installed you boot to livecd ubuntu and install
[07:46] <bazhang> meson10: see above
[07:47] <joot> badkitty, I have and it is like he said
[07:47] <amitprakash> how do i make a subscript or superscript in kate or gedit?
[07:47] <moDumass> hey all, I just purchased a Linksys NAS200 and iu have no idea how to make it go
[07:47] <moDumass> all instructions i can find a re linux
[07:47] <badkitty> soldats: I usually end up taking a sledge hammer to them before they die on me
[07:47] <Gyrodog> does ne1 know about WINE
[07:47] <badkitty> joot ??
[07:47] <moDumass> any help would be ubertastic
[07:47] <meson10> bazhang: alright
[07:47] <Extravert> bazhang: all my videos are playing with weird colors
[07:47] <xeek> badkitty: so in live-mode i click "install" and then do partition editing during installation?
[07:47] <bazhang> moDumass: a router? you can access it via a browser but you need an ethernet attachment
[07:48] <badkitty> xeek: precisely
[07:48] <joot> badkitty, was just saying that I had a hd die thats all
[07:48] <badkitty> xeek: It will guide you through
[07:48] <bazhang> Extravert: with compiz? what card for video and what driver
[07:48] <badkitty> joot:  ok ;-p
[07:48] <soldats> badkitty, i wouldnt type it here since someone may try it but hdparm with some options will beat it up pretty good
[07:48] <moDumass> bazhang, yeh its done, but how do i find its IP address>
[07:48] <moDumass> ?
[07:48] <Extravert> bazhang: Nvidia 6600 the default driver
[07:48] <soldats> but sledge hammer is sweet
[07:48] <badkitty> soldats: haha i'll keep that in mind
[07:49] <xeek> badkitty:is it safe ???
[07:49] <moDumass> bazhang its a network HDD
[07:49] <Gyrodog> does ne1 know how to install Unreal Tournament on Ubuntu with WINE
[07:49] <bazhang> !nas
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nas - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <xeek> badkitty: how big is the risk?
[07:49] <nano___> Rubin: Maybe i should'nt have put american pie on here
[07:49] <bazhang> Gyrodog: #winehq will help there
[07:49] <badkitty> xeek: Yes, the only you have to watch out for is when it asks HOW you want to install and how you partition the drives (IE DO NOT install ubuntu over entire disk cause this will erase your windows partition)
[07:50] <joot> xeek, safe as houses just read the directions properly
[07:50] <tockitj> Rubin, here is it http://www.pastebin.org/15922
[07:50] <Gyrodog> I was just there I can't find nething
[07:50] <Rubin> nano__: googling for this is coming up with a lot of results but no answers. it could be a bug in pdnsd maybe used on the router?  Since its blocking regular requests, its kinda got you in a hard spot :/
[07:50] <bazhang> Extravert: with compiz? have you tried without compiz or with another media player?
[07:51] <nano___> hmm
[07:51] <Rubin> tockitj, what exactly were you doing when this started?
[07:51] <Extravert> bazhang:  no compiz or Desktop effects
[07:51] <badkitty> xeek: Pay attention to what partitions it is asking to format and you will be fine. Recommend setting partitions to different space (40-60 of 100 gig for example) so you can easily ddecipher which partition it is asking about
[07:51] <xeek> badkitty: thank you..
[07:51] <bazhang> Gyrodog: what about the most excellent gaming section on ubuntuforums? otherwise just keep asking here surely someone has it :}
[07:51] <Extravert> bazhang:  no video player works
[07:51] <Extravert> bazhang:  with any type of movie format
[07:51] <tonsofpcs> Extravert: why not?
[07:51] <bazhang> Extravert: what video formats? all?
[07:52] <bazhang> oops
[07:52] <ObsidianX> hey folks, how do i use the debug kernel?
[07:52] <Extravert> bazhang: all
[07:52] <ObsidianX> i want to get debugging output from some of the kernel modules
[07:52] <tockitj> Rubin, i've added "http://ppa.launchpad.net/amaranth/ubuntu" to repositories in order to install compizconfig-manager
[07:52] <Eax> Morning everyone ^_^  Does anyone have any experience with DosEmu?
[07:52] <nano___> Rubin: cant find the wireless network now
[07:52] <amitprakash> how do i make a subscript or superscript in kate or gedit?
[07:52] <Rubin> tockitj, ubuntu's repositories already come with compiz everything...
[07:52] <KyMc1985> Anyone able to help with my Kernel Panic errors?
[07:52] <tockitj> Rubin, compizconfig is not available on official repos
[07:53] <Rubin> tockitj, yes it is.
[07:53] <tonsofpcs> Extravert: vlc?
[07:53] <Extravert> tonsofpcs: yes all
[07:53] <tonsofpcs> Extravert: vmp32x?
[07:53] <tockitj> Rubin, search queries failed to give anything -- they offered installing gnome-compiz-manager that has far less options in configuring 3d effects
[07:54] <Extravert> tonsofpcs: I think its an encoding problem
[07:54] <Rubin> tockitj, ok. well lesson learned, you cant "just" add random repositories and grab packages that arnt tested etc with your distro.
[07:54] <badkitty> tockitj:  Gutsy?
[07:54] <Eax> Does anyone have any experience with dosemu?
[07:54] <Rubin> tockitj, anyway, i think theres a way to fix this for you by removing the affected packages
[07:54] <bazhang> Eax: like dosbox?
[07:55] <tonsofpcs> Extravert: yea, vmp32x does have that issue sometimes
[07:55] <Eax> Bazhang: Yeah :)
[07:55] <Rubin> tockitj, first thing, get that rpository out of your sources.list and apt-get update again.
[07:55] <jonysiguel> hello
[07:55] <jonysiguel> everyone
[07:55] <tockitj> badkitty, yes gutsy
[07:55] <Eax> Bazhang: I downloaded DosEmu from Synaptic. Just don't know how to use it :S
[07:55] <codah2> hey guys
[07:55] <tockitj> Rubin, that is nice to hear
[07:55] <bazhang> Eax: any reason not to use dosbox?
[07:55] <codah2> anyone here running ubuntu with flash 9?
[07:55] <jonysiguel> sorry for bothering you guy with a question that many of you may find rather silly
[07:55] <tockitj> rubin -- ok, just a sec
[07:55]  * tonsofpcs hates people who make shit up
[07:55] <tonsofpcs> nite ;)
[07:56] <Eax> Bazhang: Nope, where can I get it? ;)
[07:56] <Rubin> codah2, yeah
[07:56] <jonysiguel> i have problems setting up my wireless network
[07:56] <codah2> http://acid.evolabs.net/papervision/app3/Main.html <-- can someone tell me if this runs
[07:56] <codah2> Rubin
[07:56] <jonysiguel> well, my wireless card
[07:56] <jonysiguel> I have ndisgtk
[07:56] <badkitty> tockitj: Gutsy has compiz natively... you just have to get the ccsm?
[07:56] <jonysiguel> an i installed the driver
[07:56] <bazhang> !info dosbox | Eax
[07:56] <ubotu> eax: dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.71-0.1 (gutsy), package size 658 kB, installed size 2096 kB
[07:56] <nano___> Rubin: thanks alot for the help, know where i can find the find the gstreamer or similar plugins that allow me to play avi, mpeg, mp3 etc files?
[07:56] <Ellement> help: i dont seem to have a xorg.conf file. and i need to it for aticonfig --initial :(
[07:56] <Eax> Bazhang: Thanks a lot :)
[07:56] <amitprakash> how do i make a subscript or superscript in kate or gedit?????
[07:56] <Rubin> nano___: search for restricted in the add/remove programs thing, after chinging upper-right pulldown to all packages
[07:56] <badkitty> Ellement: Youhave an xorg.conf file
[07:57] <jonysiguel> but from what i see in the details of Network Manager is that the driver used is not the one that I installed
[07:57] <badkitty> Ellement: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:57] <jonysiguel> so how do I change the driver anyone?
[07:57] <nano___> Rubin: but i need to be connected to the internet
[07:57] <bazhang> Eax: and go to www.abandonware.com for all that dos goodness :}
[07:57] <Rubin> nano___: ahh. yes :/
[07:57] <tockitj> Rubin, i've removed repo -- reload done, apt-get update too
[07:57] <calista> :)
[07:57] <Gyrodog> can I install kubuntu with ubuntut
[07:57] <Rubin> tockitj, ok now apt-get remove --purge compiz-core
[07:58] <bazhang> Gyrodog: kubuntu-desktop
[07:58] <nano___> Rubin: i can download it on here and send it over if i can find it
[07:58] <codah2> Rubin: does http://acid.evolabs.net/papervision/app3/Main.html <-- work for you?
[07:58] <Rubin> nano___: i think its got a lot of dependancies. but yeah
[07:58] <Eax> Bazhang: Thanks a lot m8 :D Have a nice day ^ ^
[07:58] <Rubin> codah2: yes
[07:58] <Gyrodog> yeah how do I install it
[07:58] <bazhang> Eax: you too!
[07:58] <codah2> awesome
[07:58] <badkitty> Ellement: Find it?
[07:59] <bazhang> Gyrodog: sudo apt-get install packagename
[07:59] <codah2> my code runs on everything !
[07:59] <tockitj> Rubin, error: http://www.pastebin.org/15924
[07:59] <Rubin> tockitj, ok, try dpkg -r --purge compiz-core
[07:59] <Ellement> badkitty: i need to be able to access it using the command - >  sudo aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf   but when i do this it says no conf file
[07:59] <Gyrodog> ok I got the old kde in here now how do I remove it
[08:00] <tockitj> Rubin, dpkg: conflicting actions -P (--purge) and -r (--remove)
[08:00] <joot> jonysiguel, try installing  wifi radar it might just work
[08:00] <Rubin> tockitj, hmm. try dpkg -P compiz-core
[08:00] <tockitj> Rubin, which one to try ?
[08:00] <bazhang> Gyrodog: you mean you want kde4? that is different from kde 3.5.8 iirc
[08:00] <badkitty> Ellement: Did you check to make sure its there? Also it could by a syntax error
[08:00] <jonysiguel> ok
[08:00] <jonysiguel> i have it actually
[08:01] <jonysiguel> but you see, ubuntu is using a preinsatlled driver
[08:01] <Gyrodog> well wut ever the newest kde is but I want kubuntu
[08:01] <jonysiguel> which is not the correct driver
[08:01] <tockitj> Rubin, dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of compiz-core:
[08:01] <marx2k_> !lamp
[08:01] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:01] <jonysiguel> how do I change that driver?
[08:01] <drgeb> Hi when I reboot my machine, for the very first login my XServer reboots and then for all other logins I am able to login as normal, anyone seen this ? How can I fix it, or trouble shoot this issue ?
[08:01] <badkitty> marx2k You are doing big things uh
[08:01] <Ellement> badkitty: thats the thing in /etc/X11/ there is no xorg.conf file. only xorg.conf.original-0 and xorg.conf.1 and xorg.conf.2
[08:01] <bazhang> Gyrodog: probably best answered in #kubuntu-kde4
[08:02] <Rubin> tockitj, add a --force-remove-reinstreq --force-depends
[08:02] <Zloog> Hi, vlc is giving me this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52381/ error when i run it. Does anyone know what it could mean?
[08:02] <joot> jonysiguel, too hard for me sorry :-)
[08:02] <Gyrodog> how d oI get to the room
[08:02] <tockitj> Rubin, http://www.pastebin.org/15925 # now i'll try this last one
[08:02] <Zloog> I think an update broke vlc, because it was working fine before the last set of patches
[08:02] <Extravert> bazhang: its a pretty bad problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3830263
[08:02] <badkitty> Ellement: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.1 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:02] <jonysiguel> just tell me how you set up your please
[08:02] <bazhang> Gyrodog: type /join channelname
[08:02] <badkitty> Ellement: Or which ever xorg file was working for you
[08:03] <DPic> Will there be any significant performance improvements for 8.04?
[08:03] <tvb> /part/
[08:03] <badkitty> DPic: Im pretty sure all new releases have significant improvements
[08:03] <tockitj> Rubin, great: Purging configuration files for compiz-core ... :-))
[08:03] <joot> jonysiguel, I tried and failed many times then got wifi radar and all came good
[08:04] <DPic> but i mean specifically performance improvements
[08:04] <Rubin> tockitj, ok then do the same for compiz-fusion-plugins-main and compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[08:04] <tockitj> ok, just a sec
[08:04] <DPic> serious performance improvements
[08:05] <badkitty> DPic:  That I'm not sure.. there are articles on the net how to improve performance... depends on what you are doing as well
[08:05] <Ellement> badkitty: ok copied it, but now when i run aticonfig -- initial i get -> aticonfig: writting to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. ad file descriptor
[08:05] <bazhang> DPic: join #ubuntu+1 for that
[08:05] <tockitj> Rubin, dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove compiz-fusion-plugins-main which isn't installed.
[08:05] <Rubin> tockitj, ok
[08:05] <Rubin> tockitj, do the -extra one, and if that isnt there, try apt-get remove compiz-core compiz-extra
[08:06] <Rubin> for safe measure
[08:06] <bazhang> Extravert: you running mythtv? tried the various fixes on that thread (of which there are several)?
[08:06] <badkitty> Ellement: Dunno .. buy an nvidia card??
[08:07] <Extravert> bazhang: I dont use that
[08:07] <badkitty> Ellement: After a while the opportunity cost of trying to get the ATI card to work is just not worth it when the nvidia card wil most likely be up and running before you can say 'ati shinanigans'
[08:07] <bazhang> Extravert: you have tried the fixes on that thread (of which there are several)?
[08:07]  * Rubin agrees. ati cards are shooting range targets
[08:07] <Ellement> badkitty: yeh. thanks for help tho :)
[08:07] <wenbo> i killed redhat wen i installed ubuntu,i think ubuntu is the best system.
[08:08] <Rubin> wenbo: its not hard to beat redhat :/
[08:08] <oddalot> ok, i got my monitor to do the correct 85hz...but it's all wobbly now, and flickering kinda
[08:08] <tockitj> Rubin, compiz-{core,extra} removed; apt-get still complains about dependencies (therefore apt-get remove does not work)
[08:08] <nano___> quick question, how do you run a script?
[08:08] <Rubin> oddalot, your monitor maybe can do it but not very well. try 75
[08:08] <joot> Ellement, I have a Ati card and it does does not work either
[08:08] <Extravert> bazhang: im doing the first fix
[08:08] <Rubin> nano___, depends.. but often you just type the path to it
[08:09] <nano___> Rubin: Ok thanks
[08:09] <badkitty> Ellement: Sorry, I never tried to get an ati card to work.. namely because I hated them since around 1997 when 3 of my friends had fault al-in-wonders ... AFAIK, ati drivers to run compiz are faily new
[08:09] <oddalot> i think the horizontal and vertical ranges are off
[08:09] <bazhang> what are you using extravert? xine?
[08:09] <oddalot> hmm
[08:09] <oddalot> 85  and 60 are the only ones it supports
[08:09] <oddalot> crap on a stick
[08:09] <Rubin> tockitj, try apt-get -f
[08:10] <Rubin> tockitj, and paste
[08:10] <badkitty> oddalot:  hha
[08:10] <paxsboy> Hello. I'm running Gutsy off a livecd on an adjacent laptop and I'm having a bit of trouble. I need to install ms-sys, but sudo apt-get install ms-sys just says that it can't find the package. I'm sure the package exists, and other packages (like kcron) install fine. Any ideas?
[08:10] <Rubin> tockitj, er, sorry. apt-get -f install
[08:10] <bazhang> !info ms-sys
[08:10] <ubotu> ms-sys: Write a Microsoft compatible boot record. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1 (gutsy), package size 19 kB, installed size 128 kB
[08:10] <oddalot> dude, do you guys understand, i had to use windows the other night, when i had company over.....WINDOWS...please i need help
[08:10] <dhq>  i have a problem i can ping sites i can download torrents login irc and im but i can surf what could be the problem
[08:10] <badkitty> paxsboy: Perhaps the reside in a repository that is not enabled?
[08:10] <paxsboy> badkitty: How might I find out if that's the case?
[08:10] <ObsidianX> anybody here use a broadcom wifi card?
[08:11] <Rubin> dhq: try posting that again after proofreading it :)
[08:11] <bazhang> paxsboy: you want to install stuff in the live cd?
[08:11] <paxsboy> bazhand: I want to use the program to repair a MBR.
[08:11] <paxsboy> bazhang*
[08:11] <badkitty> paxsboy: Google search for the package you want, it willl usually show what repositories you need to have (include 'ubuntu' in your search)
[08:11] <ObsidianX> specifically using the b43 or bcm43xx drivers?
[08:11] <ObsidianX> because they are NOT loading for me, ssb seems to block them or something
[08:12] <ObsidianX> cuz ssb grabs the pci device and b43/bcm43xx never load on boot
[08:12] <tockitj> Rubin, apt-get install -f is downloading new packages. output of last few commands: http://www.pastebin.org/15926
[08:12] <dhq>  i have a problem i can ping sites i can download torrents login irc and im but i cant surf what could be the problem
[08:12] <bazhang> paxsboy: never tried this--so ymmv--but you could try enabling the repository via synaptic and downloading in the livecd environment
[08:12] <ObsidianX> and i can't seem to find info on my specific problem ANYWHERE
[08:12] <paxsboy> badkitty: It's in "universal" and "admin." Is that what I'm looking for?
[08:12] <ObsidianX> its driving me mad
[08:12] <kr00l> Good news everyone GeekSquad Live help work's for linux!
[08:12] <Rubin> dhq: is dns working?
[08:12] <badkitty> dhq:  windows?
[08:13] <dhq> badkitty: ubuntu
[08:13] <badkitty> paxsboy: probably, you have to enable those
[08:13] <paxsboy> bazhang: I don't want to keep bugging you, so can you point me to a resource that might point me in the right direction for doing that?
[08:13] <joot> Obsidian, There is untold info at the ubuntu forums Search wireless or broadcom i think
[08:13] <Rubin> dhq: maybe dpkg -r compiz
[08:13] <Rubin> er
[08:13] <tockitj> rubin: done, http://www.pastebin.org/15928
[08:13] <oddalot> is there a way to find my monitors horizontal and vertical synch ranges without the manual?
[08:13] <Rubin> tockitj, ^^ that was for you
[08:13] <joot> ObsidianX, There is untold info at the ubuntu forums Search wireless or broadcom i think
[08:13] <tockitj> Rubin, is it ok that ubuntu-desktop is removed ?
[08:13] <Rubin> tockitj, oh, so your solved then?
[08:14] <Rubin> tockitj, its ok, but add it back now.
[08:14] <bazhang> paxsboy: not bugging me--I am out of here by choice :} enable the repos in synaptic and install the program ms-sys in component universe btw
[08:14] <tockitj> Rubin, i will, just a sec :-)
[08:14] <kr00l> How do i get the pre-installed torrent to show up in my Applications?
[08:14] <badkitty> dhq: Hmm thats odd. try a different browser?
[08:15] <bazhang> kr00l: which one is that? just bit torrent?
[08:15] <kr00l> bazhang: Correct
[08:16] <bazhang> kr00l: it should be there by default--you had to install it?
[08:16] <kr00l> bazhang: it is there but doesn't show up in Applications. I know you have to do something to show it
[08:17] <bazhang> kr00l: ah you want to edit the applications menu?
[08:17] <kr00l> bazhang: it's System > Pref > Main Menu
[08:18] <Rubin> tockitj, so what happened to you is, you had the official compiz stuff installed, and then you fdound that other compiz which provided many of the same files, but did not have conflict statements to force apt to replace it. so the two packages tried to put the same files in the same place and exploded.
[08:18] <paxsboy> Thanks very much all; this seems to have worked.
[08:19] <bazhang> kr00l: you want to move where it shows up?
[08:19] <kr00l> bazhang: I don't want to move it i just check the box and it shows up in Applications > Internet
[08:19] <fismoll8> hey all
[08:19] <tockitj> Rubin, apt-get has recovered -- thanks this was valuable lesson. i'll study dpkg & apt-get man pages :-)
[08:20] <fismoll8> trying to install geany 0.12 from source on ubuntu gutsy--being told that I am missing gtk-2.0
[08:20] <badkitty> going to bed all!! night@@
[08:20] <hxu> Hi! Anyone how to configure ubuntu so it can have display signal on both outputs of my laptop?
[08:20] <Rubin> tockitj, you could, if you were really ballsy, try again by removing any official ubuntu compiz related packages and then installing that one instead. but it would be constantly risky since they have the same names..
[08:20] <fismoll8> when I try to install gtk-2.0 from source, it tells me that I am missing a host of other files
[08:20] <fismoll8> when I try to run sudo apt-get update and upgrade, nothing happens--synaptic doesn't update
[08:20] <Rubin> fismoll8, dont do that unless you really know what your doing.
[08:20] <bazhang> kr00l: I'm probably not the best person to ask as I use another client and am not on gnome sorry
[08:20] <tockitj> Rubin, is there a way to install compizconfig from official repos ?
[08:20] <Rubin> tockitj, its already there
[08:20] <Rubin> tockitj, i think..
[08:20] <fismoll8> well, do you know what is wrong rubin
[08:21] <hxu> Hi! Anyone how to configure ubuntu so it can have display signal on both outputs of my laptop?
[08:21] <bazhang> !ccsm | tockitj
[08:21] <tockitj> Rubin, but search fails.. :-?
[08:21] <ubotu> tockitj: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[08:21] <porkpie> hi guys, has anyone got a script for keeping a ppp connection up ?
[08:21] <Rubin> tockitj, maybe not, i dunno really my video card doesnt support it :)
[08:21] <z35> just wondering if there is anything like kickstart or autoyast for ubuntu/debian, the only thing i have found is fai, just wondering if there are any alternatives...
[08:21] <Rubin> porkpie, keeping it up?
[08:22] <porkpie> Rubin:yeah
[08:22] <Rubin> z35: for those of us who dont know what those are?
[08:22] <Rubin> porkpie, like a keepalive ping or something?
[08:22] <porkpie> Rubin:I vpn connection the I need to keep alive
[08:22] <z35> Rubin:  auto installation over network
[08:22] <bazhang> !info fai
[08:22] <ubotu> Package fai does not exist in gutsy
[08:22] <Rubin> porkpie, yeah but whats killing it?
[08:23] <Rubin> z35: ahhh. i'm sure you can install ubuntu via pxeboot but i cant tell you how
[08:23] <tockitj> Rubin, thanks alot for help :-)
[08:23] <Rubin> tockitj, np
[08:23] <porkpie> Rubin:dunno but it drops
[08:23] <Rubin> porkpie, while its idle?
[08:24] <hxu> This is the most populous distro channel I ever saw in freenode.net, but I net got my question solved here, nobody ever answered my question, not like gentoo channel, people in this channel are just ....
[08:24] <ZionPsyfer> porkpie: wvdial can be configured to redial when the connection is lost.
[08:24] <Rubin> hxu: if noone answeres, either they dont know, or your not asking effectively
[08:24] <bazhang> hxu: in three minutes?
[08:24] <hxu> I was never answered.
[08:24] <hxu> here.
[08:24] <porkpie> Rubin:not sure .... it's a radius server and I need to keep the VPN up for the AAA  the other sends updates every 2 mins so I don't think it's idle
[08:25] <Rubin> hxu: your question is a hard one, and you provided no details such as video card, or evidence of what you have tried so far.. since doing this is documented on the web
[08:25] <porkpie> Rubin:let me check the log
[08:25] <Rubin> porkpie, you cant really find a script to fix it if you dont know whats wrong
[08:25] <joot> porkpie, my two cents set your modem to stupid mode it will not drop so often
[08:26] <darkblue_B> I have two internal drives, partioned similarly. Last November I instaled/copied my setup over to the 2nd drive. I just restarted my *remote* machine, and it booted on the old drive. Is there a way I can control which drive starts, remotely?
[08:26] <porkpie> joot:it's not a modem  ....
[08:26] <bazhang> hxu: external lcd connected to laptop? what video card what are you trying to do--please be precise and maybe a little nicer--honey catches more flies than vinegar you know :}
[08:26] <joot> porkpie, Gaa sorrrry
[08:26] <hxu> no, a projector
[08:27] <Rubin> darkblue_B, kinda. you can put them both in grub, and modify grub before rebooting
[08:27] <darkblue_B> modify grub? in what way?
[08:27] <tockitj> bazhang, ccsm not found: http://www.pastebin.org/15929
[08:27] <Rubin> darkblue_B, change the default boot partition..
[08:27] <bazhang> hxu: be precise--what are you trying to do
[08:27] <darkblue_B> can I read about modfying grub from the shell?
[08:27] <z35> it seems that i can use kickstart, if desired (not really), or preseed and pxe... which i might end up doing, i'll read up on preseed...
[08:27] <bazhang> tockitj: you have enabled the necessary repos in synaptic?
[08:28] <hxu> I'm using a HP laptop, nx6325, with an ATI Raedeon xPress integrated card
[08:28] <Rubin> darkblue_B, man grub maybe. but its complicated...
[08:28] <darkblue_B> uh huh
[08:28] <bazhang> hxu: what are you trying to do
[08:28] <hxu> I can not have projector work with my ubuntu 7.10
[08:28] <hxu> the projector just show nothing
[08:29] <bazhang> hxu: with the scarcity of details in your question--not sure how to help you
[08:29] <tockitj> bazhang, offical ones are enabled -- i think it can be checked in apt-get output (http://www.pastebin.org/15929)
[08:29] <paxsboy> Oh, wow. Well, the MBR is now repaired, but on bootup I'm getting "Invalid Partition Table." That scares me.
[08:30] <paxsboy> I had hoped to save some of the data on the drive.
[08:30] <hxu> bazhang: I can not switch display signal to the projector, laptop is HP nx6325, os is Ubuntu 7.10, card is ATI Raedeon xPress.
[08:30] <bazhang> tockitj: try this: in terminal type apt-cache search compiz and see if that package is among (the many) ones showing up in the list
[08:30] <hxu> bazhang: What else do you need to know?
[08:30] <porkpie> Rubin:here is the problem LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
[08:31] <bazhang> hxu: and how have you tried to switch the signal to the projector?
[08:31] <paxsboy> Does freenode have a #ohgodmyharddriveexploded equivalent?
[08:31] <tockitj> bazhang, main, universe, multiverse, restricted are all enabled -- i'll try apt-cache, just a sec
[08:31] <bazhang> paxsboy: the next best alternative is #ubuntu-offtopic :}
[08:31] <hxu> bazhang: use the "fn" key and the display-switching key of the laptop keyborad.
[08:31] <Rubin> hxu: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-352750.html
[08:32] <paxsboy> bazhang: Copy that.
[08:32] <bazhang> hxu: ah, well were it as simple as that--likely you need to go into monitor settings and do it there
[08:32] <porkpie> Rubin:did you see my message
[08:33] <Rubin> porkpie, yeah. but not sure what it means is wrong
[08:33] <Rubin> porkpie, could just be line-noise
[08:33] <tockitj> bazhang, cant find it: http://www.pastebin.org/15930 :-/
[08:33] <VvWolverinevV> hi, i installed vista and now i can't boot to ubuntu, how do i reinstall GRUB?
[08:33] <ObsidianX> alright i can get ndiswrapper to work with my chipset but it only works if its loaded before ssb
[08:34] <ObsidianX> and ssb loads first on boot
[08:34] <porkpie> I just need a script the will check the connection .... if it's down it redials
[08:34] <ObsidianX> is there a way for me to prioritize modules
[08:34] <Rubin> VvWolverinevV, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[08:35] <VvWolverinevV> Rubin: ahh live CD, duhhh, :P thanks
[08:35] <Rubin> VvWolverinevV, or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:35] <oddalot> i saw on a youtube video a guy with ubuntu with a mac looking toolbar...you know the one with the icons that get bigger as you move over them....anyone know how to install that?
[08:36] <bazhang> tockitj: what are your sources? did you use automatix or put in a bunch of third party repos? could you pastebin your sources list?
[08:37] <fismoll8> does anyone know how to upgrade synaptic so that you have a listing of the latest software
[08:37] <tockitj> bazhang, sources are empty
[08:37] <fismoll8> trying to download geany 0.12
[08:37] <Narissa> When I try to use a 3d application it sends me back to login, how do I fix this?
[08:37] <gaurish> i set a job to run azureus in cron, neither azureus was launched or neither i got a error mail from cron, how to figure out what went wrong?
[08:37] <tockitj> bazhang, no third party sources
[08:37] <bazhang> tockitj: could you pastebin your sources list please?
[08:38] <hxu> bazhang: no idea where monitor setting is...
[08:38] <ObsidianX> anybody know anything about module priority?
[08:38] <Ellement> question: had to do manual install of ati driver. when i did sudo shutdown -r now. kubuntu isnt startting instead says Kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot... ubuntu 7.10 linux tty1  linux login ....what do i do???????
[08:39] <gaurish> Narissa, post the output of " lspci | grep VGA "
[08:39] <tockitj> bazhang, here is it: http://www.pastebin.org/15932
[08:39] <Narissa> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7300 GT (rev a2)
[08:39] <bazhang> tockitj: okay just a moment..
[08:40] <gaurish> Narissa, did you install drivers?
[08:40] <hxu> bazhang: and look at this: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/laptop-video-output-control
[08:40] <Narissa> gaurish: restricted drivers yes
[08:41] <zackie> Any Help on how to uninstall Wengo Phone?
[08:41] <gaurish> Narissa, post the output of " glxinfo | grep endering "
[08:42] <bazhang> tockitj: aha--my mistake--you are on feisty; compizconfig is gutsy only I'm afraid
[08:42] <Narissa> gaurish: it just put me back at login when I did that
[08:43] <paxsboy> Okay, so gparted does not recognize the filesystem on the hard drive (using a livecd). Any ideas?
[08:43] <Malawar> how easy is it to (up|down)grade Ubuntu to Kubuntu?
[08:44] <gaurish> Narissa, okay can you do that in cmd line, press CTRL+ALT+F1
[08:44] <joot> bahzang, tockitj, he still needs his repos security and keys enabling yes???
[08:44] <Malawar> is it as simple as just installing KDE?
[08:44] <Narissa> will check
[08:44] <bazhang> Malawar: upgrade is easy--kubuntu-desktop
[08:44] <ignu> i am new to xchat
[08:44] <gaurish> Narissa, check if it says yes or no
[08:44] <tockitj> bazhang, you are right `cat /etc/issue` shows Ubuntu 7.04. I had both distros -- obviously i've installed wrongone last night :-)
[08:44] <Malawar> I haven't used KDE in awhile, thinking about giving it a go :P
[08:44] <Narissa> gaurish: unable to open display
[08:44] <Narissa> that's teh message
[08:44] <bazhang> tockitj: both our bads then d'oh! :}
[08:45] <Zermelo> i migrated my ubuntu partition to another hard drive, everything seems to be working, but it isn't reading the swap partition, although it is allocated, is there any way to re-designate the swap partition?
[08:45] <tockitj> bazhang, would `apt-get dist-upgrade` bring me to gutsy ? :-)
[08:45] <Malawar> is going from Kubuntu to Ubuntu just as easy?
[08:45] <bazhang> !upgrade | tockitj
[08:45] <ubotu> tockitj: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:45] <Malawar> i think i'll install off my kunbutu disc :P
[08:45] <bazhang> Malawar: aye
[08:46] <Malawar> thanks.
[08:46] <Narissa> Malawar: yes it is 8)
[08:46] <Narissa> gaurish: it says cannot open display, that's the message
[08:47] <bazhang> hxu: I have to step away for a few; perhaps some other more knowledgeable fine folks here can help you in my absence :}
[08:47] <gaurish> Narissa, okay you have messed up something here, please post /etc/X11/xorg.conf & /var/logXorg.0.log
[08:47] <tockitj> bazhang, thanks :-)
[08:47] <Narissa> what's the link for that again
[08:47] <Narissa> for the place to post those things
[08:47] <gaurish> !paste
[08:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:48] <SlimG2> Is the 'gnome-ppp' package installed defaultly by the Ubuntu desktop installer?
[08:48] <_sidd> Anyone having problems with java or eclipse with the most recent xorg-server update?
[08:49] <oddalot> anyone know how to make the toolbar look like it does on the mac?
[08:49] <alanbshepard70> does anyone know of a package that works on ubuntu that can convert .flv, mpg, avi, etc movie files and create a video DVD with them? I've tried DeVeDe but the disc's won't play on any machine in my house. I verified that I used the right format (NTSC) and I also tried DVD -r,+r,-rw and +rw with no luck.
[08:49] <hxu> bazhang: you are from taiwan?
[08:49] <SlimG2> oddalot: http://www.tuaw.com/2006/06/20/make-ubuntu-look-like-os-x/
[08:49] <FuTz> hello.. anyone knows where can i get download of cd or dvd with ubuntu packages that i don't have to download it from internet few times for few computers?
[08:49] <oddalot> thx!!
[08:50] <oddalot> aww the link is dead
[08:50] <gaurish> oddalot, try this too http://www.howtoforge.com/mac4lin_make_linux_look_like_a_mac
[08:50] <Narissa> gaurish: Xorg.conf  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52382/
[08:50] <_sidd> alanbshepard70: qdvdauthor
[08:51] <alanbshepard70> _sidd: thanks I'll try that one, I hope it works
[08:51] <ignu> dfc
[08:51] <Narissa> gaurish: Log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52383/
[08:52] <oddalot> thx
[08:52] <oddalot> again!!
[08:52] <_sidd> alanbshepard70: I haven't tried it myself -- just briefly looked at it a few days back...
[08:52] <joot> alanbshepard70, you mat wish to look at mencoder also
[08:53] <joot> may
[08:53] <alanbshepard70> joot: I will thanks.
[08:53] <BloodyScum> i just installed some updates, and now my azureus wont open.. every time i clike it nothing happens, so i tried typing in the terminal "azuerus" and got "The program 'SWT' received an X Window System error.  This probably reflects a bug in the program.  The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'. (Details: serial 261 error_code 11 request_code 148 minor_code 5)
[08:53] <BloodyScum> "
[08:53] <BloodyScum> sorry for so many lines
[08:53] <gabrialm> hello all
[08:54] <Narissa> hihi
[08:54] <gaurish> Narissa, try removing Option "AddARGBVisuals"  & Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals from xorg.conf in Section "Device"
[08:54] <_sidd> BloodyScum: Yes... I'm having problems with eclipse... seems like the most recent xserver update doesn't seem to work with java (graphical apps).
[08:55] <gabrialm> ok so ive been trolling the ubuntuforums for months, let it go for awhile and thought id give it another go. i cannot for the life of me get fglrx functional. ive used just about every known method i can find through the forums and google. does anyone know any tricks?
[08:55] <BloodyScum> _sidd is there a way to roll baxk the xserver update untill this is fixed?
[08:56] <Narissa> gaurish: alright restarting X
[08:56] <_sidd> BloodyScum: I am looking to do exactly that... looking at some forums right now...
[08:56] <_sidd> BloodyScum: Let me know if you find anything.
[08:56] <bullgard4> What is the purpose or function of /dev/dsp?
[08:56] <BloodyScum> _sidd ok, you to
[08:57] <gabrialm> anyone have experience with fglrx?
[08:57] <W_McL> BloodyScum, I also got this error after the xserver update wen i'm trying to start eclipse
[08:57] <FuTz> does anyone know where to get packages for offline installation?
[08:57] <_sidd> BloodyScum: There is a way to install a specific version of a package with apt-get... but I don't know what the previous version of the xserver.
[08:57] <kackobacko> eval $(echo 512-5324 | tr 41352 '~mfr ')
[08:57] <Narissa> gaurish: no dice still kicks me back to login,
[08:58] <W_McL> sadly that's not the first time when a xserver update was broken :(
[08:58] <_sidd> W_McL, BloodyScum: do you know if anyone has created a bugreport on lauchpad?
[08:58] <BloodyScum> _sidd W_McL no i dont, and is there an update log?
[08:58] <W_McL> _sidd, I didn't check yet, was busy searching forums for a solution
[09:00] <W_McL> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/183969
[09:00] <W_McL> the error looks the same to me
[09:00] <_sidd> W_McL: Since the update was recent, I doubt there's a solution out there for this yet... I think the only to do for now is to revert back to the previous version...
[09:00] <gaurish> Narissa,lol, try reconfiguring your display by " dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", i am running of idea here
[09:01] <_sidd> W_McL: Yes... that's the error I get. Looks like this was posted 6 minutes ago.
[09:01] <gabrialm> hrm
[09:01] <XiXaQ> What's the difference between "aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" and "tasksel install ubuntu-desktop"?
[09:01] <BloodyScum> W_McL: _sidd yeah thats the one
[09:01] <gabrialm> i think perhaps ill just circumvent this whole dilema. throw my x1300 into my winbox and grab an nvidia for my linux
[09:01] <gabrialm> this is frustrating
[09:02] <Deeky> Anyone has solution to RAID1 bug  in GUTSY?
[09:02] <XiXaQ> Deeky, URL to the bug?
[09:02] <W_McL> BloodyScum, _sidd: going to post my error as well, since it got a slightly different number code
[09:02] <Deeky> The solution
[09:03] <dakilla> hi
[09:03] <Deeky> You know how to fix it, XiXaq?
[09:03] <misslecommander> screen savers are super nice
[09:03] <dakilla> any one here
[09:03] <BoltClock> hey, i just got a new computer at the beginning of the year and a few days ago i tried to run gutsy's live CD
[09:03] <XiXaQ> Deeky, you have to provide a URL to it, otherwise it's impossible to know what you're talking about.
[09:03] <Narissa> gaurish: brb restarting
[09:03] <Deeky> wait
[09:03] <BoltClock> but i cant get ubuntu to start
[09:03] <dakilla> hi every one
[09:03] <BloodyScum> W_McL _sidd: ok, but i think the number code might depend on the program
[09:03] <misslecommander> hi
[09:04] <ignu> hi all
[09:04] <BoltClock> hi
[09:04] <ghosTM55> ignu: hello
[09:04] <dakilla> lets play a game every one will count 1 2 3 4 * is censored and so on k
[09:04] <_sidd> BloodyScum: Right... but the basic error seems to be the BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) from the xserver.
[09:04] <ghosTM55> anybody here use aim or msn ?
[09:04] <dakilla> 1
[09:04] <VvWolverinevV> how do i know which partition to install grub on?
[09:04] <dakilla> i use msn
[09:05] <dakilla> any one here looooooooooooool
[09:05] <BloodyScum> W_McL _sidd: yeah
[09:05] <thepeoplesmark> I'm looking for a way to get videos like movies on my ipod 80gig classic. For reference, I use Amarok to sync music. Let the helping begin.
[09:05] <dakilla> speak say something i am the admin here
[09:05] <XiXaQ> Deeky, bugs are reported on launchpad.net. If you think you've found a bug, search there. If you can't find it, report it. If you're referring to a bug, then paste a URL to it.
[09:05] <n2diy> I'm looking for an aviation bomber/fighter game for Dapper?
[09:05] <dakilla> fuck u all
[09:05] <dakilla> dont u have brains
[09:06] <XiXaQ> !ops
[09:06] <n2diy> !ops
[09:06] <ghosTM55> 。。。。。。。。。。。。
[09:06] <misslecommander> prob not the brightest thing to say
[09:06] <dakilla> there r more than 1160 users and only ten talking
[09:06] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[09:06] <misslecommander> there is a general ubuntu chat right ?
[09:06] <XiXaQ> misslecommander, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:06] <BoltClock> i think i should begin outlining my problem now
[09:06] <misslecommander> off topic or something like that
[09:06] <dgjones> misslecommander, yes there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:07] <Madpilot> misslecommander, for regular chat, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:07] <Narissa> gaurish: it worked, you are magic gaurish
[09:07] <_sidd> BloodyScum, W_McL: The bugreport lists the previous version of the xserver that the guy backed off to. We can do the same.
[09:07] <BoltClock> i cant get my live CD to boot gutsy
[09:07] <Narissa> I was required to reinstall the restricted drivers and wala
[09:07] <Deeky> It is actually posted on launchpad.net. But I believe there is still no correct patch for this bug
[09:07] <gaurish> Narissa, :)
[09:07] <misslecommander> Madpilot: slow;y getting the hang of things. still run into problems here and there though
[09:07] <Narissa> tyvm now onto runescape
[09:07] <BoltClock> unless i use safe graphics mode. if i try the normal way, ubuntu leaves four lines and stops doing anything
[09:07] <zulfiqar> how do i install icon sets downloaded form gnome-look.org?
[09:08] <XiXaQ> Deeky, then the problem isn't fixed. Nobody has any idea which bug you're talking about.
[09:08] <zachary> man ubuntu rules when you get the stuff you want working :D
[09:08] <misslecommander> i forgot my runscape pw lol
[09:08] <misslecommander> lvl 95 and i forget it
[09:08] <Psynaut> lol weird
[09:08] <Deeky> Oh, Ok then
[09:08] <misslecommander> well, havent played in who knows how long, long enough to forget
[09:08] <Deeky> But have you used RAID 1, XiXaQ?
[09:09] <XiXaQ> Deeky, and nobody knows which version of ubuntu you're running either, which makes it very difficult to give a good response.
[09:09] <misslecommander> anyoen check out the screen savers ? omg they are hot
[09:09] <Deeky> It is Gustsy Gibbon
[09:09] <Deeky> Server
[09:09] <gaurish> i set a job to run azureus in cron, neither azureus was launched or neither i got a error mail from cron, how to figure out what went wrong?
[09:09] <ironeye> hi
[09:09] <XiXaQ> Deeky, I've been trying to tell you; if you want a good answer, you must ask a good question.
[09:09] <VvWolverinevV> hi, im trying to reinstall GRUB after windows wiped it out, but im not sure which drivepartition to intall it on, can someone help?
[09:09] <BloodyScum> somthing like  "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core 1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8"?
[09:10] <ironeye> does this program need to be written to a cd before installin?
[09:10] <rsp2k> how do I convert an ubuntu server install to a mythbuntu install? installing mythbuntu-desktop doesn't install everything I would have if I installed from the mythbuntu cd. is there some other meta packeage for each variant (xubuntu/kubuntu...)
[09:10] <bazhang> !grub
[09:10] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:10] <misslecommander> i am noob, i couldnt tell you , but i can hunt down google for it
[09:10] <_sidd> BloodyScum: I tried sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8, but it can't find that version. :-|
[09:10] <ironeye> does this program need to be written to a cd before installin?
[09:11] <dgjones> ironeye, do you mean the installation .iso you downloaded?
[09:11] <ironeye> yea
[09:11] <kaboombob> anybody know of a good video editor i can use in ubuntu?
[09:11] <rsp2k> kino?
[09:11] <AdvoWork> Hi there. last nite I randomly had an email with the subject: Subject: Cron <root@ubuntu> test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily and then some other stuff/errors within the body of the email. any ideas what this is please?
[09:11] <BloodyScum> _sidd W_McL: well maybe we can find the package without apt-get
[09:11] <dgjones> !install | ironeye, The easiest way is to burn the iso to a cd, and then start the computer up from the cd, but this lists other alternatives
[09:11] <ubotu> ironeye, The easiest way is to burn the iso to a cd, and then start the computer up from the cd, but this lists other alternatives: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !a
[09:11] <kane77> kaboombob, cinelerra
[09:12] <ironeye> thanks bud
[09:12] <kaboombob> kane 77 how do i get it?
[09:12] <gaurish> kaboombob,try ubuntustudio www.ubuntustudio.org/
[09:12] <misslecommander> some program, not sure what it is though, on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?highlight=%28install%29%7C%28windows%29
[09:12] <kaboombob> kane77 how do i get cinelerra
[09:12] <dgjones> ironeye, the other advantage is that it lets you try your hardware with it before you install
[09:12] <Deeky> I setup RAID 1 on my 2 harddisk, I installed Gusty Gibbon Server edition. There was no problem. But when I tried to boot using only one harddisk, it won't boot. Any help?
[09:12] <misslecommander> click on that link wolverine
[09:12] <_sidd> BloodyScum: Good idea.
[09:13] <bazhang> kaboombob: install it
[09:13] <kaboombob> kane77 for some reason deb isnt working for me
[09:13] <kaboombob> hows it goin bazhang
[09:13] <bazhang> heya
[09:13] <misslecommander> Deeky: you put the swap or ohter mounted partitions on the second drive ?
[09:13] <misslecommander> its my understanding that if you will be removing a drive, first unmount it in linux, then shutdown, and remove it
[09:14] <jason__> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:14] <jason__>  how can i fix this
[09:14] <misslecommander> but i am noob, so you may want to ask the vetz
[09:14] <Deeky> md0 = /boot, md1 = swap, md2 = /
[09:14] <gaurish> Deeky, thats becuase when HDD are are in RAID, to the os they are seen as a single HDD
[09:14] <misslecommander> if it says ubuntu.com i can be pretty sure it will work, or it is the suggested way
[09:14] <n2diy> jason__: run the command?
[09:15] <misslecommander> guarish: youre prob right, but it depends on what mode raid was put in, either way it isnt good to remove from a raid system
[09:15] <jason__> what do i od though
[09:15] <BoltClock> is anyone free now to try and assist me with my issue?
[09:15] <Deeky> But, arent RAID1 supposed to run even when 1 harddisk fail? It is a mirroring array.
[09:15] <misslecommander> depends on mode u created the array with
[09:15] <gaurish> Deeky, thats depends you setup
[09:15] <gaurish> !raid | Deeky
[09:15] <ubotu> Deeky: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[09:16] <jason__> i need help
[09:16] <Deeky> It is RAID1
[09:16] <jason__> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. <how ot fix
[09:16] <misslecommander> perfect ubotu , full of good info
[09:16] <BloodyScum> does anyone know where we can find the prevous version of Xserver? it seems a few people have the same problem with java and the new X
[09:16] <gaurish> jason__, run the command given in the error itself
[09:16] <kaboombob> anybody know how i can get deb to work again in bash?
[09:17] <ironeye> ok so will copying the .iso files to my usb dongle work ?
[09:17] <gaurish> kaboombob, what error you get?
[09:17] <kaboombob> deb command not found
[09:17] <_sidd> BloodyScum, W_McL: Aha! I managed to downgrade the xserver.
[09:17] <misslecommander> ironeye: you suing program like maya with that dongle ?
[09:18] <misslecommander> may uses them too
[09:18] <misslecommander> maya*
[09:18] <gaurish> kaboombob, to install any software use apt
[09:18] <gaurish> !apt
[09:18] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:18] <W_McL> _sidd, BloodyScum: currently downgrading
[09:18] <_sidd> BloodyScum, W_McL: sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-core=2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8
[09:18] <kondor1011> im just checking, if i am 100% ubuntu its impossible for me to just install xp to dual boot isnt it? I have to install xp first then reinstall ubuntu yes?
[09:18] <ironeye> dont get ya misslecommander
[09:18] <Deeky> Has anyone tried RAID1 on ubuntu? Which version has no problem when booting with only one hdd?
[09:18] <misslecommander> guarish: how do you know if something will use apt ?
[09:19] <kaboombob> gaurish i need to add the repository to get cinella but deb isnt working
[09:19] <kaboombob> the command deb that is
[09:19] <misslecommander> ironeye: maya a 3d rendering/animation program used in Final Fantasy. it uses dongle
[09:19] <ironeye> will copying the .iso files to my usb dongle work ?
[09:19] <BloodyScum> W_McL _sidd: nice work
[09:20] <gaurish> misslecommander, all package mgt works are done by apt, read the link given by ubotu got for info
[09:20] <kondor1011> ironeye, my guess is no, most dongles are fat 16 or 32
[09:20] <_sidd> BloodyScum: Yea... now to check if that worked... see you in a bit.
[09:20] <misc--> hello, I added a custom repo to my sources.list and ran an apt-get update but got this error: W: GPG error: http://xnv4.xandros.com etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A3CCB76FA8BCF0C9.     Does that mean that packages will still work from that repo and just give me a warning? Or will it skip them alltogether?
[09:20] <misslecommander> ok guarish
[09:20] <sharingos> hi all
[09:20] <sharingos> /usr/include/c++/3.3/cassert
[09:20] <sharingos> do you know where can I find this file?
[09:20] <gaurish> kaboombob, i am afraid i will not be able to help unless you specify the exact error & explain your problem. saying not working will not make it work !
[09:21] <nocturn> Hi guys
[09:21] <jason__> it fix thanks
[09:21] <bmt2> hello to all
[09:21] <bmt2> i am trying to use handbrake cli to copy this DVD to my PSP.....
[09:21] <misslecommander> guarish: oh yes, now i see, i used it a few times already, something of what Synaptic Package Manager uses ?
[09:21] <kaboombob> gaurish i told you the error it was giving me
[09:21] <bmt2> does handbrake copy the whole DVD or just the part of the DVD that has the movie on it ?
[09:21] <misslecommander> i see and used the apt-get before
[09:21] <kaboombob> its ok tho i got it fixed
[09:22] <nocturn> My company would like to become an Ubuntu partner, there's a link to apply on the canonical website, but I would first like to have a chat with someone from Canonical on this.  Any idea who to contact (and how)?
[09:22] <abhi_> hey i can't find the db_stat utility on Gutsy
[09:22] <abhi_> why?
[09:22] <misslecommander> !contact
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about contact - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <gaurish> kaboombob, maybe i didn't read it, say again please in detail & from start
[09:22] <kondor1011> brnt2, sorry  i just joined, but it sounds like k9copy might be the sort of thing your talking about
[09:23] <abhi_> !db_stat
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about db_stat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <bmt2> kondor1011: ok does k9copy do the whole DVD or just the part that has the whole movie....largest file on the DVD ?
[09:23] <kaboombob> this was the error deb command not found
[09:23] <kaboombob> gaurish i got it fixed tho
[09:23] <kondor1011> brnt2, have you ever used dvd-shrink?
[09:24] <misslecommander> gaurish: if i use apt like >> apt-cache search foo it will search through the ones i chose to "download only" ?
[09:24] <gaurish> nocturn, hello, this will help ==> http://www.ubuntu.com/partners
[09:24] <BoltClock> is anyone free to help me with my issue? my windows xp pro sp2 is running fine on my very new computer and i want to install gutsy - but the live cd cant boot it unless i choose safe graphics mode. trying the normal way of starting, it just prints four lines and stops
[09:24] <misslecommander> i picked ones that i wasnt sure i wanted yet, but i chose to download only
[09:24] <BloodyScum> _sidd u here?
[09:24] <misslecommander> using apt-cache search foo search them too ?
[09:25] <misslecommander> foo in place of search item
[09:25] <deniz_> can sum1 help me find libmp3lame.so.0?
[09:25] <dgjones> nocturn, you might get an answer to that in #ubuntu-marketing, that might be a better place to ask
[09:25] <kondor1011> brnt2, k9copy is about as close to dvdshrink as you can get, it lets you chose which bits you want.  all or just main movie, subs languages ect.  sound like what you want?
[09:25] <gaurish> misslecommander, try man apt
[09:25] <misslecommander> ok
[09:25] <kaboombob> deniz_ what did you need it for?
[09:25] <gaurish> Bollinger, who much memory is there?
[09:25] <gaurish> how*
[09:25] <zulfiqar> how do i install icon sets downloaded form gnome-look.org?
[09:26] <deniz_> kaboombob, i want to export mp3's in audacity so that i can compress my songs to 64 kbps
[09:26] <kondor1011> boltclock, the obvious is to say try 6.06
[09:27] <misslecommander> i foudn "lame" in Synaptic Package Manager, you looking to work with mp3 ?
[09:27] <BoltClock> ... why such an old release?
[09:27] <misslecommander> i used it before, Gwave used it
[09:27] <jason__> is this bad for glgears 6488 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1297.318 FPS
[09:27] <nhorning> hey there
[09:27] <nhorning> whose helping?
[09:27] <gaurish> deniz_, use Synaptic to install new software, else you will face dependency hell
[09:27] <misslecommander> Lame is a program which can be used to create compressed audio files.
[09:27] <kondor1011> boltclock, i know what your saying. but i suppose the answer would be, why not?
[09:27] <_sidd> BloodyScum, W_McL: Phew! It works... good to have eclipse working again.
[09:28] <deniz_> gaurish, i used terminal so its same
[09:28] <nhorning> help, I cannot get my canon ip1800 to work
[09:28] <deniz_> gaurish, its just that audacity needs this
[09:28] <nhorning> are there any ways to do it in 64 bit?
[09:28] <BloodyScum> _sidd W_McL: yeah it worked, nice job
[09:28] <gaurish> deniz_, you use apt-get or dpkg?
[09:28] <jason__> is this bad for an i845g/gl onboard chipset graphics
[09:28] <deniz_> gaurish, apt-get
[09:28] <kondor1011> the fact is, 6.06 has a big advantage if your having problems with 7.10.  It has a big history of fixes on the threads for one thing
[09:28] <jason__> 6488 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1297.318 FPS
[09:28] <W_McL> _sidd, BloodyScum: also got it working again :)
[09:29] <candi4> cana
[09:29] <nhorning> hello?
[09:29] <candi4> hello
[09:29] <gaurish> !ask | nhorning,
[09:29] <ubotu> nhorning,: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:29] <kaboombob> deniz_ do you have all the restricted extras?
[09:29] <nhorning> what?
[09:30] <nhorning> right
[09:30] <worm> Any 1 know what drives will work with a Netgear WG311T
[09:30] <nhorning> can anyone help me?
[09:30] <BloodyScum> W_McL: _sidd k well im off for the night, il see u all later
[09:30] <candi4> ca
[09:30] <_sidd> nhorning: Just ask your question... if anyone knows the answer, they'll help.
[09:30] <n2diy> ! ask | nhorning
[09:30] <ubotu> nhorning: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:30] <deniz_> kaboombob, wat do u mean?...i no i have everything except the libmp3lame.so.0 file
[09:30] <candi4> what?
[09:30] <_sidd> BloodyScum: See ya.
[09:30] <deniz_> kaboombob, audacity is asking for it and its pointing to usr/lib
[09:30] <nhorning> right, how do I get my ip1800 printer to work in gutsy 64 bit
[09:31] <deniz_> kaboombob, but im there graphically and dont see any libmp3lame.so.0
[09:31] <nhorning> ?
[09:31] <kaboombob> deniz_ ok go into your package manager and look for restricted extras
[09:31] <deniz_> kaboombob, synaptic?
[09:31] <kaboombob> deniz_ yes
[09:32] <CyberWorld> !printing
[09:32] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:32] <kaboombob> deniz_ lame-extras might install it for you to
[09:33] <deniz_> kaboombob, k, i have dial-up so this'll take a wile and thx, hopefully itll work, i have to study for a biology exam so by
[09:33] <BoltClock> is anyone free to help me with my issue? my windows xp pro sp2 is running fine on my very new computer and i want to install gutsy - but the live cd cant boot it unless i choose safe graphics mode. trying the normal way of starting, it just prints four lines and stops
[09:33] <BoltClock> hate to repeat it but... ><
[09:34] <kaboombob> deniz_ i can copy its contents to a pastebin if you want me to
[09:34] <gaurish> BoltClock, what amount of RAM you have?
[09:34] <deniz_> kaboombob, i checked the to be installed  files
[09:34] <BoltClock> 4 GB
[09:34] <deniz_> kaboombob, it doesnt have the exact file
[09:34] <deniz_> kaboombob, but maybe lame thing does
[09:34] <deniz_> kaboombob, unless im seeing things
[09:35] <gaurish> BoltClock, and whats display card?
[09:35] <kaboombob> deniz_ i know i have it on my comp but i cant open it to copy it for you
[09:35] <jason__> bolt run it in safe graphice mode to install
[09:35] <kaboombob> deniz_ i may be able to email it to you
[09:35] <BoltClock> gaurish: its an onboard NVIDIA GeForce7100
[09:35] <dgjones> BoltClock, sounds like an issue with the graphics card, what card do you have, its its very new, you might have to start in safe graphics because the livecd image doesn't have your card as a basic option, but normally once installed, you can update the driver to get normal graphics
[09:35] <jason__> the reconfigur ur x sever after installed
[09:35] <deniz_> ok, so gamingtechnology at
[09:35] <deniz_> yahoo.ca
[09:36] <gaurish> BoltClock, then use safe gfx mode & install :)
[09:36] <jason__> and bolt get evny when u get it in stalled and it find the right driver for the nvidia
[09:36] <BoltClock> jason__: get what?
[09:36] <dgjones> !envy | jason__
[09:36] <ubotu> jason__: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[09:36] <BoltClock> envy?
[09:36] <deniz_> kaboombob, did u get that?
[09:36] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. I've got a ssh question .. I have a computer that is behind a second router (fiber>wireless>vonage Linksys>Ubuntu Box) the router it is behind is 192.168.0.6 and the box is 192.168.15.2 (the rest of my network is 192.168.0.* stuff).
[09:36] <CyberWorld> you will prolly have to install a restriced nvidia or ati driver after install
[09:36] <NineTeen67Comet> can I get to it via ssh still?
[09:36] <misslecommander> guarish: you can string together packages like this, and they all get downloaded and installed ? >  sudo apt-get install ardour-gtk hydrogen jackd jack-rack qjackctl seq24 vkeybd zynaddsubfx patchage vlc kino pitivi acidrip ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:37] <jason__> envy bolt its good
[09:37] <BoltClock> also... in safe gfx mode, my monitor doesnt seem to cope well since it flickers like mad when scrolling or dragging windows
[09:37] <jason__> it works
[09:37] <jason__> i have used it with the Ultim ubuntu
[09:37] <BoltClock> what does it do?
[09:37] <paxsboy> Does anyone know of something like ms-sys that can handle HPFS/NTFS MBRs?
[09:37] <dgjones> envy isn't recommended because it causes problems with updates
[09:37] <BoltClock> problems :O
[09:38] <jason__> it installs drivers for ur graphic
[09:38] <kaboombob> deniz_ yeah i did give me a sec and ill send it to you
[09:38] <kaboombob> deniz_ i have another one that has a couple of extra.0's at the end i attached that one to
[09:38] <gaurish> BoltClock, just install ubuntu & then solve your gfx problems
[09:38] <deniz_> kaboombob, k, thx alot
[09:38]  * NineTeen67Comet the majority of things available to help install stuff is not approved by Ubuntu .. (automatix, envy and install.sh) ..
[09:38] <deniz_> kaboombob, k
[09:38] <jason__> it didnt cause any problems on my other system
[09:38] <jsemmanuel> are there any applications to open pagemaker files?
[09:38] <jsemmanuel> ..on ubuntu?
[09:39] <dgjones> BoltClock, once you've got it installed, you'll get an option to use the restricted driver, you can select that and it should install the correct driver for your card
[09:39] <NineTeen67Comet> jsemmanuel: try scribus . and google for Linux Windows equivalents ..
[09:39] <gaurish> NineTeen67Comet, thanks because they are known to break installs
[09:40] <BoltClock> gaurish: ok. i have two disks: a 250 gb where windows is installed and an unused 320 gb that i cant get ubuntu or windows to see, only my bios detects it fine. how do you recommend i install?
[09:40] <NineTeen67Comet> gaurish: lol .. I am known to break installs .. heheehh .. I used to be the re-install king ..
[09:40] <BoltClock> dgjones: alright, ill take note of that
[09:40] <asc> I would like to create a  customized menu bar, in which, for example, I get to chose the names and number of menus instead of being forced to use applications/places/system. However, I don't see options for this under 'edit menus' when right-clicking on the menu applet. Does anybody know how to do this?
[09:40] <jsemmanuel> no apps open .pmd files
[09:40] <gaurish> NineTeen67Comet, i have a term for you "Windows weenies" :p
[09:40] <deniz_> kaboombob, i got them
[09:41] <jsemmanuel> :-(
[09:41] <jsemmanuel> :-(
[09:41] <elkbuntu> NineTeen67Comet, that's no reason to tell newbies to do it.. .they blame the breakage on ubuntu, not the scripts, then give up and run screaming back to windows
[09:41] <deniz_> kaboombob, k, thx once again and i seriously have to go cuz im such a last minute study person
[09:41] <kaboombob> deniz_ wasthat all you needed?
[09:41] <deniz_> kaboombob, ya
[09:41] <kaboombob> laters then im out to
[09:41] <gaurish> BoltClock, how do you know that your 320gb hdd is not detected by ubuntu?
[09:41] <NineTeen67Comet> gaurish: I don't have an MS box in my house .. When I was new I didn't know how to fix stuff via chroot .. so I just did re-installs .. now, I'm usually only re-installing when I blow up my hard drive or something ..
[09:42] <BoltClock> gaurish: wait, i might have seen it wrongly, ill connect to this channel again once i start ubuntu via live cd, brb
[09:42] <n2diy> BoltClock: that is a very small hard drive for linuk
[09:42] <ubuntujay123> bolt i was wrong dont use envy ok
[09:42] <ubuntujay123> sorry
[09:42] <NineTeen67Comet> elkbuntu: No I wasn't saying to use those things, I was just saying they aren't accepted here .. mainly because it is hard to trace where something went wrong ..
[09:42] <n2diy> *linuk/linuk
[09:42] <nikken> does anyone know how to spawn a new child from wifi0 (master)?
[09:42] <n2diy> nevermind
[09:42] <ubuntujay123> i only have a 40 g hd it runs fine
[09:43] <gaurish> NineTeen67Comet, re-installing does not help, as you don't know what the problem was & if by chance next time it comes, then again you have to install again, and you will fall in endless loop.
[09:44] <Sharpie> for some reason azureus fails to start (worked like 5 minutes ago). when ran from console it gives a 'BadAlloc' error. reinstalling didn't work, and neither did deleting the .azureus dir
[09:44] <NineTeen67Comet> gaurish: exactly .. When I teach classes with Linux in them I usually can save what ever the students do now .. The usuall is a broken xorg.conf or malformed fstab . but usually its not a big problem ..
[09:44] <CyberWorld> I don't have the laptop here but I have a linux dell 1420N laptop.  Anyways I'm trying to capture the wireless device file /dev/?  it's not /dev/wlan0 .  Anyone know what it would be or a command or file where the name is stored in ubuntu 7.10?
[09:45] <gaurish> Sharpie, join official support channel of Azureus  #azureus-support
[09:45] <Kalamansi> hello guys..is it okay to use a server with 38 users who shares the internet connection speed of 2.2mbps? where half of 38 is doing some updaloding a kilobytes files while half of 38 are doing surfing?
[09:46] <gaurish> CyberWorld, i didn't get what you want to do?
[09:46] <CyberWorld> use a program to capture wifi activity
[09:46] <n2diy> CyberWorld: lshw?
[09:47] <gaurish> CyberWorld, network-manager applet
[09:47] <nikken> anyone? -> <nikken> does anyone know how to spawn a new child from wifi0 (master)?
[09:47] <CyberWorld> ok I will try that
[09:48] <CyberWorld> loaned it out to my mother since her laptop is so slow
[09:49] <CyberWorld> those dell linux computers really run ubuntu well without any hardware trouble
[09:49] <jaw^vovoid> we run ubuntu on Dell optiplex 330 machines at work, works great
[09:49] <misslecommander> if i select HDPARM in services, will i have to manually edit hdparm.conf ?
[09:50] <CyberWorld> yeah there n series is neat
[09:50] <bobslaede> Is it possible to complete disable my wireless card? I cannot do this in the bios on this laptop. And removing the module (bcm43xx) freezes the laptop
[09:50] <CyberWorld> their
[09:50] <BoltClock> hi
[09:50] <zackie> How do i Install a .tar.gz file? Trying to install Automatix while it is on my desktop v3.4.5
[09:51] <nhorning> damnit, I just got turboprinter to print
[09:51] <astro76> !automatix | zackie
[09:51] <ubotu> zackie: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[09:51] <nhorning> but it puts a logo on each page
[09:51] <BoltClock> gaurish: im on gutsy right now
[09:51] <nhorning> and it costs 40 dollars to get it to stop
[09:51] <zackie> !automatix
[09:51] <elkbuntu> zackie, what are you wanting automatix to install for you?
[09:51] <misslecommander> zackie: tar.gz is sipped file, compressed like rar or zip
[09:51] <misslecommander> zipped
[09:52] <zackie> Trying to install Songbird
[09:52] <kaboombob> !paste
[09:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:52] <joot> bobslaede, you can blacklist it but I cannot remember how maybr google can help
[09:52] <bobslaede> joot: thanks, ill give that a go
[09:52] <joot> bobslaede, good luck
[09:52] <astro76> zackie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird
[09:52] <zackie> elkbuntu___I cannever just find a program i like on the net and just download and install .. usualy have to go to terminal and ty cd something then sudo something so on.. oh and a ./configure whatevr thatis heh
[09:53] <Sterling> I need some help with installing this, if anyone can please PM me
[09:53] <Sterling> SOmething about partions and root folders
[09:53] <gaurish> BoltClock, ok go on install it, the known problem during install are: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall
[09:53] <astro76> zackie: actually for most everything you can use synaptic or apt-get
[09:53] <astro76> !synaptic | zackie
[09:53] <ubotu> zackie: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:53] <misslecommander> astro76: hdparm in services, that need manual edit of hdparm.conf ?
[09:53] <zackie> astro76___What is apt-get?
[09:53] <bobslaede> joot: thanks, apparently one of my cpus are totaly out of control, and i have narrowed it down to the wireless card
[09:53] <kaboombob> i have a problem with broken packages and to fix it one overwrites it and its a big complicated mess heres the pastebin of the error plz help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52386/
[09:54] <astro76> misslecommander: yes
[09:54] <tim168> is a lenovo thinkpad a good choice if you plan installing ubuntu on it? any experiences ?
[09:54] <misslecommander> astro76: thank you
[09:54] <VvWolverinevV_> hi, im trying to reinstall grub after windows wiped it out, the documentation says to install it on the main partition as well as the boot partition, but is it possible i don't have a boot partition?
[09:54] <astro76> zackie: start with synaptic first ;) apt-get is command line
[09:54] <kaboombob> !apt | zackie
[09:54] <ubotu> zackie: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:54] <n2diy> Sterling:  we don't normally PM here, ask your question?
[09:54] <joot> Sterlng, when you pm as a forum you exclude 1100 people from knowledge
[09:54] <zackie> astro76___You got it bruddah Thanks to all you guys Peace out and rock bless'
[09:54] <Sterling> Im trying to install Ubuntu and need someone to talk me through it
[09:54] <BoltClock> im on the Prepare disk space screen
[09:55] <Sterling> Having multiple errors
[09:55] <BoltClock> and ok it seems i made a mistake there
[09:55] <joot> bobslaede, So did you blacklist bcm43xx??
[09:55] <BoltClock> yes ubuntu recognizes the 320 gb disk
[09:55] <bobslaede> joot: just trying to figure out how. If i just remove the module, the laptop freezes.. :/
[09:55] <BoltClock> since its never been used, ill go for Guided - use entire disk, right?
[09:56] <kaboombob> i have a problem with broken packages and to fix it one overwrites another and causes an error plz help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52386/
[09:56] <Sterling> No... I need to set it to a partition.
[09:56] <inertial> how do set ubuntu to display on my TV from my laptop using a vga port? do i have to mess around with xorg.conf?
[09:56] <gaurish> BoltClock, is there any data in that disk?
[09:56] <BoltClock> nothing at all
[09:56] <Sterling> I try to go set it to a partition and no matter what I do I get this error....  No root file system is defined.
[09:56] <Sterling> Please correct this from the partitioning menu
[09:56] <BoltClock> ive never touched it since i bought the pc
[09:56] <astro76> Sterling: set what to a partition?
[09:56] <Sterling> TO install Ubuntu
[09:57] <gaurish> BoltClock, then go ahead , as this option erases all data on disk :)
[09:57] <Sterling> I got windows on the other partition and my parents want to use it
[09:57] <Sterling> So I can't overwrite it.
[09:57] <Oceanlab> goodmorning guys
[09:57] <bobslaede> joot: apparently its easy, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist :)
[09:57] <joot> bobslaede, there is a lot on bcm43xx at ubuntu forums they can be a real pita
[09:57] <BoltClock> i havent been as excited as now
[09:57] <astro76> Sterling: have you resized it yet?
[09:57] <bobslaede> joot: alright, i'll read up on it :)
[09:57] <joot> bobslaede, coool
[09:57] <BoltClock> later after installing i just need to download drivers for various things and im good to go?
[09:57] <bobslaede> joot: i dont need the wireless card, so its just a pain in the donkey
[09:58] <Sterling> ? I told it to delete the old second partition, then told it to USE AS : ext3
[09:58] <Sterling> and told the second box /boot
[09:58] <bobslaede> well.. .rebooting :)
[09:58] <Sterling> MOunt POint
[09:58] <kaboombob> i have a problem with broken packages and to fix it one overwrites another and causes an error plz help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52386/
[09:58] <tim168> any experiences good or bad with ubuntu on Thinkpad T61 ?
[09:59] <astro76> Sterling: no you need a / mount point, and a swap partition... one easy way to do this is to just delete this second partition, and then just select "use the largest continuous free space"
[09:59] <inertial> nobody has any suggestions for doing vga out on my laptop?
[09:59] <Oceanlab> is there someone who speaks Italian?
[09:59] <Sterling> But the largest is the other partition....
[09:59] <BoltClock> im at the summary screen looking at Advanced... what does the boot loader do?
[09:59] <astro76> !it | Oceanlab
[09:59] <ubotu> Oceanlab: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:59] <n2diy> inertial: to a TV?
[09:59] <gaurish> BoltClock, not necessary , all most all drivers are installed by default, a few are they which are not open source so they are not installed by default
[09:59] <inertial> n2diy: yeah
[10:00] <inertial> n2diy: do i have to mess aroudn with xorg conf manually?
[10:00] <VvWolverinevV_> im trying to reinstall grub after windows wiped it out and i get "unable to execute /usr/sbin/grub-install: Input/output error", anyone know why?
[10:00] <n2diy> inertial: PAL or NTS?
[10:00] <gaurish> BoltClock, The boot loader would then read the operating system in from an outside storage
[10:00] <inertial> n2diy: pal
[10:00] <didar> kaboombob: that looks like a packaging bug
[10:00] <astro76> Sterling: you know I'm not really familiar with the automatic partitioning options in the installer...
[10:00] <BoltClock> gaurish: do i need it?
[10:00] <kaboombob> didar any ideas how to fix it?
[10:00] <Oceanlab> thanks so many ubotu
[10:00] <BoltClock> its checked by default
[10:00] <Oceanlab> goodbye
[10:00] <astro76> Sterling: but what you need is to set the mount point to /, and you also need a small swap partition
[10:00] <Sterling> ...
[10:01] <n2diy> inertial: Sorry, I don't know.
[10:01] <ubuntu_> hi
[10:01] <didar> kaboombob: not really... possibly you could un-install mpeg3-utils package
[10:01] <Jay-Oh-En> is there a list of processes that dont need to be started on startup?
[10:01] <joot> bobslaede, you back up yet
[10:01] <Sterling> What is a swap partition?
[10:01] <inertial> n2diy: it's different for nts?
[10:01] <Jay-Oh-En> !startup
[10:01] <bobslaede> joot: yeah, just checking
[10:01] <gaurish> BoltClock, yes off course unless you don't plan to use your OS :p
[10:01] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[10:01] <ubuntu_> i am trying to make a csh script
[10:01] <astro76> !swap | Sterling
[10:01] <ubotu> Sterling: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[10:01] <kaboombob> didar it says i have broken packages and trys to instlal them first then gives me the error
[10:01] <Sterling> How do I create one?
[10:01] <bobslaede> joot: so far, nothing out of control :)
[10:01] <n2diy> inertial: Yes, the scan rates are different.
[10:01] <ubuntu_> i want this script to ask for two numbers and then to add them
[10:02] <didar> kaboombob: apt-get remove mpeg3-utils
[10:02] <inertial> it's a shame there's no graphical way to configure dual monitors and suchlike
[10:02] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i make my num lock turn on during boot cause i hate having to turn it on
[10:02] <joot> bobslaede, yeah you can put that as a win yes??:-))
[10:02] <didar> kaboombob: followed by apt-get install libmpeg3hv
[10:02] <Sterling> and approximentlay how big should it be if I only have 20000 MB
[10:02] <bobslaede> joot: module not loaded, ksoftirq/1 not going wild
[10:02] <sarah> hmm update manager is frozen should i killall it
[10:02] <bobslaede> joot: yup, thats a win :D
[10:02] <inertial> n2diy: i have the manual for the tv so i know the scan rates
[10:02] <astro76> Sterling: you can use gparted, from the ubuntu livecd system > admin > partition editor, or there's a gparted livecd
[10:02] <nhorning> hey, if I have the source for a 32 bit printer driver, can I compile it in 64 bit?
[10:02] <Sterling> If ifugred out how to do it...
[10:03] <Sterling> I'm just wondering.... what is the recommended size for 20000 MB total free?
[10:03] <n2diy> inertial: but they don't work in xorg-config?
[10:03] <BoltClock> well... here goes
[10:03] <astro76> Sterling: like I said, I think if you delete the second partition, there's an option to install automatically into that unallocated space, maybe someone can verify that
[10:03] <BoltClock> installing!
[10:03] <bobslaede> joot: thanks!
[10:03] <astro76> Sterling: you mean 2GB?
[10:03] <Sterling> roughly 20 gigs
[10:03] <joot> bobslaede, didnt do much just forgot a command hee
[10:04] <inertial> anyone know if there's a program like aticonfig but for the intel laptop graphics cards?
[10:04] <astro76> Sterling: oh I thought you meant RAM because that is what swap relates too, you can get away with 256-512 MB
[10:04] <BoltClock> ok wait i just realized that i forgot to back up my data -_-
[10:05] <bobslaede> joot: hehe, thanks anyhow :)
[10:05] <BoltClock> is it unlikely for data on my 250 gb disk to be affected at all if anything goes wrong here?
[10:05] <Sterling> okay
[10:05] <inertial> n2diy: what package is xorg-config part of?
[10:05] <Sterling> thanks
[10:05] <gaurish> BoltClock, lol, it depends how to setup the installer, now don't stop it, else surely you will lose data
[10:05] <Sterling> I think I figured it out lol
[10:06] <n2diy> inertial: don't know, Synaptic will tell you.
[10:06] <VvWolverinevV_> im trying to reinstall grub after windows wiped it out and i get "unable to execute /usr/sbin/grub-install: Input/output error", anyone know why?
[10:06] <kaboombob> didar http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52387/
[10:06] <astro76> BoltClock: so you have a second disk with data?
[10:06] <joot> inertial, ati drivers
[10:06] <BoltClock> astro76: yes, where windows lives in
[10:06] <gaurish> !grub | VvWolverinevV_,
[10:06] <ubotu> VvWolverinevV_,: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:06] <astro76> BoltClock: it's unlikely you'll lose your data, but you should always have backups
[10:07] <dgjones> BoltClock, if you're installing Ubuntu on a second hard drive and not your windows drive, you shouldn't have a problem
[10:07] <Sterling> If I do use the largest free space, could that overwrite part of my 50 GB partition?
[10:07] <Sterling> if it has 25 Gigs free?
[10:07] <VvWolverinevV_> gaurish: that guide doesn't answer my question i have read it
[10:07] <BoltClock> astro76: ill do just that as soon as im done with ubuntu today
[10:07] <zackie> Now that i have Downloaded Songbird_0.4_linux-i686.tar.gz how do i go about making it a usable application?
[10:07] <didar> kaboombob: is that a "|" character ?
[10:07] <BoltClock> dgjones: im confident my data will be safe
[10:08] <kaboombob> didar yes
[10:08] <BoltClock> 60% installed
[10:08] <gaurish> VvWolverinevV_, where are you stuck?
[10:08] <hansjd> what is the command prompt called in linux :S
[10:08] <kaboombob> hansjd terminal
[10:08] <inertial> it's funny.. when i was young i had time for all the DIY linux distros
[10:08] <n2diy> hansjd: CLI, or the command line interface.
[10:08] <joot> hansjd,terminal
[10:08] <didar> kaboombob: I believe you meant "||" rather than "|"
[10:08] <gaurish> !terminal | hansjd
[10:08] <ubotu> hansjd: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:08] <didar> kaboombob: single "|" makes a command line pipe
[10:08] <astro76> zackie: did you see the installation script on this page I linked earlier? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird
[10:09] <VvWolverinevV_> gaurish: i have the partition mounted, but i get an I/O error when i try to run "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/sda"
[10:09] <hansjd> kaboombob: how do i get to the terminal, and edit a txt file from the terminal?
[10:09] <didar> kaboombob: whereas "||" makes an OR
[10:09] <Sterling> If I do guided install f largest free space, could that overwrite part of my 50 GB partition, it has 25 Gigs free, while my second partition is 18.6 gigs
[10:09] <zackie> astro76___Yes i did that but it was the old version
[10:09] <kaboombob> didar still no working
[10:09] <hansjd> oh... and get back to the session
[10:09] <tehk> Does anyone know if there is anyway to create a keybinding for copy/paste using Super-C/V?
[10:09] <n2diy> hansjd: see ubotu's instructions above.
[10:09] <joot> Sterling, do you have windows installed?
[10:10] <kaboombob> hansjd click applications bar go to accessories click terminal
[10:10] <kaboombob> hansjd you with me so far?
[10:10] <hansjd> ah... stupid me
[10:10] <Sterling> Joot: yes
[10:10] <hansjd> kaboombob: yes
[10:10] <gaurish> VvWolverinevV_, i guess this is not the way by which its written in the guide i refered to you, don't know if this works too, but i would suggest you should try that method
[10:10] <joot> Sterling, Are you using the ubuntu live cd??
[10:11] <Sterling> Ya
[10:11] <gaurish> VvWolverinevV_, you have type sudo grub via live cd
[10:11] <Sonjaaa> i want to get a better file manager than nautilus. any suggestions?
[10:11] <kaboombob> hansjd type cd /<insert root directory of file here>
[10:11] <Sterling> Joot: ya
[10:11] <VvWolverinevV_> gaurish: should i unmount the partition first?
[10:11] <n2diy> Sonjaaa: Midnight Commander, MC
[10:11] <kaboombob> hansjd ex cd /bin/cmd/textstuff
[10:12] <gaurish> VvWolverinevV_, you using live cd?
[10:12] <joot> Sterling, Why do you not use the guided resize option ubuntu is not greedy and will leave plenty for windows
[10:12] <kaboombob> hansjd got that?
[10:12] <nikken> anyone? -> <nikken> does anyone know how to spawn a new child from wifi0 (master)?
[10:12] <hansjd> yup
[10:12] <VvWolverinevV_> gaurish:  yes
[10:12] <Sterling> JOot: Cause I want to make sure that it does not overwrite anything....
[10:12] <BoltClock> 94%
[10:12] <Sterling> an d I dont see a resize option...
[10:12] <hansjd> it's is just the command for the editing program i cant remember...
[10:12] <zackie> astro76___How would i be able to run that script with the new version?
[10:12] <kaboombob> hansjd type gedit <file name>
[10:12] <hansjd> gedit
[10:12] <hansjd> thanx :D
[10:12] <BoltClock> oooo done!
[10:13] <gaurish> VvWolverinevV_, do step by step as written in here ==> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:13] <kaboombob> hansjd did that work for you?
[10:13] <Sterling> Joot I see guided continuos  free space and I see Guided Full
[10:13] <hansjd> that's the one i couldnt remember
[10:13] <joot> Sterling, If you defragged window before you start then the guided resize will be ok for you
[10:13] <Javid> Can anyone tell me the syntax, real quick, to make a rar of everything in or below the current folder, hidden or not?
[10:13] <kaboombob> hansjd your the first person i have helped all the way thru so far
[10:13] <alecwh> I'm trying to install the 'murrine' theme engine, and I'm having trouble. I downloaded the gtk2-engines-murrine package, and I'm stuck. Can someone help?
[10:13] <Sonja> what should i use to defrag in ubuntu?
[10:13] <hansjd> hehe...
[10:14] <hansjd> just one more thing... how was i get back to the session?
[10:14] <kaboombob> sonja defrag doesnt need to be done
[10:14] <dgjones> !defrag | Sonja
[10:14] <ubotu> Sonja: The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.
[10:14] <BoltClock> if something goes wrong i can always try rebooting back on the live cd to seek support here right?
[10:14] <joot> Sonja linux does not need dfrag
[10:14] <alecwh> !murrine > alecwh
[10:14] <n2diy> Sonjaaa: linux derags every night, with dsck
[10:15] <didar> Javid: do you mean "tar"?
[10:15] <kaboombob> sonja http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/items/defragment/index.php?lang=
[10:15] <oshamahue> hi i am trying to install ubuntu from live cd . it allways stucks at the 22% and it gives errno 5. the error says  maybe something wrong with the cd or the hard disk . i just installed to the same machine yesterday with same cd but it crushed because of some wrong conf at xorg.conf and i couldnt save the system. what can i do to solve this
[10:15] <BoltClock> if something goes wrong i can always try rebooting back on the live cd to seek support here right?
[10:15] <gaurish> Sonja, linux unlike windows does not require to don't waste your time in doing a defragmentation rather do something productive :)
[10:15] <kaboombob> boltclock yeah
[10:16] <Javid> didar, any archive format it likes, i just want to put a folder in one file so I can copy it elsewhere as a backup
[10:16] <gaurish> BoltClock, yes
[10:16] <BoltClock> alright, ill restart now :)
[10:16] <Sterling> Cna i continue using the internet and live CD while ubuntu installs?
[10:16] <antares> I am using this kernel and this OS on PC Dell SMT670 with processor  Intel Corporation E7525
[10:16] <antares> Linux l2.6.22-3-686 #1 SMP Mon Oct 22 22:11:56 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:16] <antares> Debian GNU/Linux lenny/sid
[10:16] <antares> When i am using the printer with the application acroread and evince , sometimes i have no response and I have this error
[10:16] <antares> root@lyonesse:~# cat /var/log/syslog | grep  EDAC
[10:16] <antares> Jan 17 11:04:08 lyonesse kernel: EDAC e752x: Non-Fatal Error PCI Express B
[10:16] <antares> Jan 17 11:04:09 lyonesse kernel: EDAC e752x: Non-Fatal Error PCI Express B
[10:16] <antares> and the other one
[10:16] <antares> root@troie:~#  cat /var/log/syslog | grep  EDAC
[10:16] <gaurish> BoltClock, also there are many other ways to get help
[10:16] <antares> Jan 17 15:08:18 troie kernel: EDAC MC: Ver: 2.0.1 Oct 22 2007
[10:16] <sarah> hmm update manager is frozen should i killall it?
[10:16] <BoltClock> Sterling: i tried that and nothing bad has happened so far
[10:16] <antares> Jan 17 15:08:18 troie kernel: EDAC e752x: tolm = 40000, remapbase =
[10:16] <joot> Sterling, you should see a slider showing your ntfs (windows) at around 60 percent at the balance for ubuntu
[10:16] <didar> Javid: tar -jcvf mytarfile.tbz folder/
[10:16] <antares> ffc000, remaplimit = 0
[10:16] <antares> Jan 17 15:08:18 troie kernel: EDAC MC0: Giving out device to e752x_edac
[10:16] <BoltClock> gaurish: i understand :)
[10:16] <antares> E7525: DEV 0000:00:00.0
[10:16] <antares> Antares
[10:16] <Javid> thanks, didar
[10:16] <BoltClock> restarting now...
[10:16] <joot> Sterling, you should see a slider showing your ntfs (windows) at around 60 percent at the balance for ubuntu
[10:16] <didar> Javid: you are welcome
[10:17] <joot> sorry
[10:17] <n2diy> Sonjaaa:whopps, that should be fsck.  ..... linux derags every night, with dsck
[10:17] <Sterling> ok....
[10:17] <kaboombob> didar any ideas on my problem?
[10:17] <VvWolverinevV_> gaurish: zomg, i was using the install disk, not the live cd
[10:17] <joot> Sterling, If you move the slider left you will make windows partion smaller
[10:17] <kaboombob> ddiar http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52387/ for the link again
[10:17] <kaboombob> didar
[10:17] <tehk> Is there anyway to set a custom copy and paste shortcut?
[10:18] <didar> kaboombob: you could try uninstalling the "mpeg3-utils" package using dpkg
[10:18] <didar> kaboombob: and see if it helps
[10:18] <kaboombob> how do i do that?
[10:18] <zackie> Checked all the links i could find and the how to guids as far as Installing a .tar.gz file that is on my Desktop to extract it and install the inside components... any Suggestions? Sypnatic dosn't show it nor does add/remove... File is Songbird[][]
[10:18] <didar> kaboombob: beyond this unfortunately I am at my limits end :(
[10:18] <n2diy> tehk:  Check out alias under bash?
[10:18] <didar> kaboombob: don't remember now
[10:18] <gaurish> VvWolverinevV_, are both different ?
[10:18] <gaurish> !live
[10:18] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.
[10:19] <didar> kaboombob: I think dpkg -e mpeg3-utils
[10:19] <kaboombob> didar -r
[10:19] <VvWolverinevV_> gaurish: does the install dik have grub?
[10:19] <joot> Sterling, you going to be ok now??
[10:19] <oshamahue> hi i am trying to install ubuntu from live cd . it allways stucks at the 22% and it gives errno 5. the error says  maybe something wrong with the cd or the hard disk . i just installed to the same machine yesterday with same cd but it crushed because of some wrong conf at xorg.conf and i couldnt save the system. what can i do to solve this
[10:19] <gaurish> kaboombob, to remove a package use apt-get remove <package name>
[10:20] <Sterling> yep
[10:20] <kaboombob> gaurish that has been what caused the whole problem
[10:20] <sharingos> hi all
[10:20] <gaurish> VvWolverinevV_, grub is a bootloader, every os comes with a boot loader
[10:21] <gaurish> !grub
[10:21] <sharingos> do you know what's the name of the gcc version 3.3 package?
[10:21] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:21] <joot> Sterling, OK I leave you to it then g night
[10:21] <sharingos> apt-get install what?
[10:21] <n2diy> oshamahue: you may have a bad cd, try burining a new one?
[10:21] <Sterling> Thanks Joot
[10:21] <BoltClock> im on ubuntu without the cd
[10:21] <BoltClock> it looks great
[10:21] <EcoBlue> I'm running ubuntu now
[10:21] <BoltClock> Restricted Drivers only lists one proprietary driver
[10:21] <EcoBlue> it's nice
[10:21] <BoltClock> will there happen to be any other proprietary drivers that i may need to install?
[10:22] <EcoBlue> restricted drivers didn't like my lack of repo's though
[10:22] <EcoBlue> so I had to fix that
[10:22] <kaboombob> ecoblue boltclock congrats i did that recently enough to know it feels welcome over
[10:22] <BoltClock> kaboombob: thanks! :D
[10:22] <gaurish> BoltClock, depends upon hardware
[10:22] <kaboombob> boltclock probably not
[10:22] <BoltClock> gaurish: ok
[10:22] <BoltClock> kaboombob: ill see
[10:22] <BoltClock> ill restart now, just installed drivers
[10:23] <asc> How does the system->shutdown thing shut down the computer (without invoking sudo)? Is there a way I could do the same thing with a launcher?
[10:23] <EcoBlue> I hate to run ubuntu though
[10:23] <EcoBlue> OS itself is good
[10:23] <EcoBlue> my apps work etc
[10:23] <n2diy> but?
[10:23] <kaboombob> ecoblue why do you hate it then?
[10:23] <EcoBlue> kaboombob, well it's name ubuntu for one
[10:24] <kaboombob> the name?
[10:24] <EcoBlue> not really, the association with the name
[10:24] <EcoBlue> the lack of cli
[10:24] <oshamahue> i cannot open my windows partiton. is there any way to open my windows partition it says gurb loading please wait Error 17
[10:24] <kaboombob> cli?
[10:24] <Sharpie> when i try to run azureus/vlc player i get an error: "The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.". anybody has a solution?
[10:25] <asc> Er, try accessories->terminal, eco?
[10:25] <dgjones> EcoBlue, Ubuntu has a normal cli, just disables the root account as standard
[10:25] <n2diy> lack of cli, that could be a movie name!
[10:25] <zackie> Does anybody have about 5-10mins to Some what walk a Noobert through extracting/installing .tar.gz file?
[10:25] <Madpilot> EcoBlue, if by cli you mean command line interface/terminal stuff, that all works in Ubuntu...
[10:25] <EcoBlue> Madpilot, no emerge :(
[10:25] <EcoBlue> and for the life of me I can't search with apt-get
[10:25] <EcoBlue> apt-get search doesn't exist ?
[10:25] <Madpilot> EcoBlue, thankfully. This is a Debian-descended distro
[10:25] <Odo> EcoBlue, apt-cache search
[10:26] <kaboombob> odo beat me to it
[10:26] <BarbaraSalesch> hello. Is there a way to dl packages with there dependencies with Aptitude to a folder located in /home/ME/packages  ??
[10:26] <EcoBlue> Odo, thanks
[10:26] <azlon> does anybody here use skype?
[10:26] <kaboombob> ecoblue synaptic is a graphic way to search for it to
[10:26] <zackie> Does anybody have about 5-10mins to Some what walk a Noobert through extracting/installing .tar.gz file?
[10:26] <VvWolverinevV_> gaurish: holy shit that was easy! you should've seen what i was trying up until that
[10:26] <azlon> if so, how can i test my webcam?
[10:26] <zackie> azlon___I use Skype
[10:26] <EcoBlue> also I have to use .debs
[10:26] <EcoBlue> which means redownloading things :(
[10:27] <tot_to-drummond> I do azlon
[10:27] <sharingos> hi
[10:27] <lethias> I use debian etch, does ubuntu keep the desktop environments updated to the latest or does it do like debian and wait ever so often to update em.
[10:27] <azlon> zackie: how do you setup your webcam?
[10:27] <sharingos> I have installed gcc
[10:27] <sharingos> 3.3
[10:27] <sharingos> but it doesn't works
[10:27] <sharingos> do you know why?=
[10:27] <EcoBlue> not to mention ubuntu has a really nice default UI
[10:27] <Ciusbet> install
[10:27] <Ciusbet> bin-essentials
[10:27] <kn4rF> any suggestion to improve audio power? it's the half of windows' (and alsamixer is well-set)
[10:27] <Ciusbet> package
[10:27] <zackie> azlon___Doesyour OS Support i.e. through another Program?
[10:27] <gaurish> azlon, which version of skype are you using?
[10:27] <n2diy> EcoBlue: what is wrong with .debs?
[10:27] <tot_to-drummond> the beta version with webcam is kinda unstable.. I ve tried it  and did not work quite well
[10:27] <goodhabit> Hello. How can I ckeck my harddrive? Because some last days ubuntu waiting before executing applications, cpu empty, etc. and working takes many time. I think it is possible trouble with harddrive.
[10:28] <EcoBlue> n2diy, I've been taught that binary = aids and fail
[10:28] <azlon> zackie: i'm not sure, this is day 2 using ubuntu... is there something special i need to setup?
[10:28] <kaboombob> im out of here to make a music video in my newly working cinelarra
[10:28] <Madpilot> lethias, Ubuntu updates every six months, and usually tweaks the desktop/changes artwork/etc
[10:28] <Ciusbet> sharingos, bin-essentials is a package which contains all resources needed for g cc
[10:28] <kaboombob> good night all
[10:28] <Ciusbet> linux-headers...
[10:28] <BarbaraSalesch> lethias, i upgraded to lenny yesterday and a whole bunch of stuff changed since etch
[10:28] <sharingos> yes ok
[10:28] <Madpilot> EcoBlue, well, welcome to a sane distro, then ;)
[10:28] <sharingos> but is it possible to install this package
[10:28] <EcoBlue> but I cannot call my home insane
[10:28] <sharingos> an old version of it?
[10:28] <Ciusbet> sudo apt-get install bin-essentials
[10:28] <n2diy> EcoBlue: you where taught wrong. I can DL RPMS and convert them to .debs, no problem.
[10:28] <azlon> gaurish: i just downloaded the newest one from skype.com
[10:28] <Kalamansi> hello guys..is it okay to use a server with 38 users who shares the internet connection speed of 2.2mbps? where half of 38 is doing some updaloding a kilobytes files while half of 38 are doing surfing?
[10:28] <sharingos> because I have gcc 3.3
[10:29] <zackie> azlon___You might need to make sure you have the drivers for your Webcam installed... And make sure ubuntu knows you have a web cam;) This is day 1 for me on ubuntu :S some of these other fellows might be able to help you as well heh
[10:29] <sharingos> and I don't want a version of g++ newer
[10:29] <EcoBlue> Kalamansi, have fun
[10:29] <zackie> azlon___You might need to make sure you have the drivers for your Webcam installed... And make sure ubuntu knows you have a web cam;) This is day 1 for me on ubuntu :S some of these other fellows might be able to help you as well heh
[10:29] <gaurish> azlon, only the latest BETA version supports Video, the normal one just have voice support :)
[10:29] <lethias> Madpilot, the only reason i ask is that i was thinking to switching and trying it, my gnome desktop is still 2.14 and their out iwth 2.20
[10:29] <zackie> mt
[10:29] <Ciusbet> apt will search your gcc ver.
[10:29] <sharingos> ah ok
[10:29] <sharingos> thx
[10:29] <Ciusbet> np
[10:29] <zackie> Does anybody have about 5-10mins to Some what walk a Noobert through extracting/installing .tar.gz file?
[10:29] <azlon> gaurish: what version is that so i can search for it?
[10:29] <EcoBlue> sudo is the thing that kills me
[10:29] <sharingos> :[
[10:29] <Madpilot> lethias, current stable Ubuntu 7.10 has Gnome 2.20.1
[10:29] <EcoBlue> I honestly hate sudo and bypass it
[10:29] <Suva> sudo kill me
[10:29] <sharingos> :)
[10:29] <kn4rF> any suggestion to improve audio power? it's the less stronger of windows' (and alsamixer is well-set)
[10:29] <n2diy> ! ask | zackie
[10:29] <ubotu> zackie: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[10:30] <Kalamansi> EcoBLue: i already tried it and they complain.. slow internet.. hehe.. any other solutions do you have in your mind dude?
[10:30] <sharingos> I have done that you say me
[10:30] <gaurish> azlon, Spype 2.0 BETA
[10:30] <Madpilot> EcoBlue, sudo makes a heck of a lot of sense to me - why bother with two passwords, one of which you barely use?
[10:30] <sharingos> but it updates my gcc also
[10:30] <sharingos> :(/
[10:30] <Suva> kn4rF: Use active speakers
[10:30] <EcoBlue> Kalamansi, not have so many people on the network
[10:30] <gaurish> azlon, *Skype* 2.0 BETA
[10:30] <Jay-Oh-En> can somebody help me setup a static ip please ive been asking for help all day and nobody replies to anything
[10:30] <EcoBlue> Madpilot, sudo passwd is almost always the first command I run under ubuntu
[10:30] <zackie> !ask How do I install a .tar.gz file?
[10:31] <kn4rF> Suva, what is an active speaker?
[10:31] <lethias> So i'm guessing debian and ubuntu are the same, just ubuntu stays more up to day with all the latest versions.
[10:31] <Suva> kn4rF: Some soundcards also have switches for "headphones/speakers", those should appear on alsamixer
[10:31] <misslecommander> oh yes, hdparm got my HD speed back to where it should be
[10:31] <Madpilot> lethias, kind of, yeah
[10:31] <_bt> Madpilot, sudo passwd is almost always the first command I run under ubuntu > why?
[10:31] <Kalamansi> !ask
[10:31] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[10:31] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, if you speed it up what does it do
[10:31] <Madpilot> ubotu, debian | lethias
[10:31] <ubotu> lethias: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[10:31] <Kalamansi> !ask howto static ip
[10:31] <jsemmanuel> jay-oh-en: static ip in ubuntu?
[10:31] <n2diy> ! zackie | tar
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zackie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <EcoBlue> _bt, I prefer to actually be logged in as root if I need to do something
[10:31] <EcoBlue> prefixing my commands with sudo is a waste
[10:32] <zackie> !tar
[10:32] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:32] <Madpilot> _bt, good question. seems like a waste of time to me, but if it's what EcoBlue wants to do, it's his Ubuntu to break...
[10:32] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: you need to edit a file for it to take effect, applications load twice as quick
[10:32] <Jay-Oh-En> jsemmanuel, in xubuntu but its the same thing
[10:32] <n2diy> ! tar | zackie
[10:32] <ubotu> zackie: please see above
[10:32] <_bt> sudo can be a lifesaver. its also more secure
[10:32] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, tell me what i can do
[10:32] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, or how to do this
[10:32] <_bt> EcoBlue: also, because you have a root password, it can then be bruteforced
[10:32] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: its dangerous if you dont know your HD specs
[10:32]  * syc_ wassalamualaikum wr wb
[10:32]  * gaurish says bye guys, i am tired now
[10:32] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, how are you suppose to know it?
[10:33] <EcoBlue> _bt, only time I used sudo for something other than sudo -i is when a linux running friend needed to log into root, he forgot his root pass (not ubuntu) so we used sudo in order to backdoor into root
[10:33] <aantn> how can I stop netowrk manager
[10:33] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i could get the specs
[10:33] <gaurish> Jay-Oh-En, try sudo fisk -l
[10:33] <aantn> *network
[10:33] <EcoBlue> _bt, can't your regular password be brute forced just as easily
[10:33] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En:  how new is your computer ? that would include HD age
[10:33] <zackie> Night
[10:33] <aantn> its hogging my cpu and killing it does nothing
[10:33] <_bt> EcoBlue: not if they dont know the username ;)
[10:33] <Madpilot> EcoBlue, "forgot his root pass" - exactly why I don't see the point in having one
[10:33] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, brand new
[10:33] <EcoBlue> Madpilot, he never runs his linux
[10:33] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: i would think it has eide then
[10:33] <Suva> How can one forget the root pass
[10:34] <zackie> Okay when i select extract on the .tar.gz package brings up the folder which has what i want to install over the old version... how do i install it? there is no Source doc in there...
[10:34] <azlon> !dualhead
[10:34] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[10:34] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: i can show you what to do, but i must remind you, it can make your system un-bootable
[10:34] <BoltClock> i installed the driver but ubuntu now wants to start in low graphics mode
[10:34] <EcoBlue> sudo -i is nice, but su is less typing
[10:34] <sharingos> o
[10:34] <sharingos> I have removed gcc vers 4 package and after I have installed the version 3 of gcc but it doesn't works then I have installed build -essential with apt-get but with this installation, my apt-get has updates gcc at version 4.0 also and I wanted do it... How could I do please?
[10:34] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, well what do i have to know first of all
[10:34] <jsemmanuel> jay-oh-en: goto system>administration>network
[10:35] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: in your cmos, you have 32-bit transfers enabled ?
[10:35] <Jay-Oh-En> jsemmanuel, i want to do it using the terminal
[10:35] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, how do i know
[10:35] <n2diy> Suva: One is used to Windows, and does everything without a password?|
[10:35] <paweusz> Hi! After todays upgrade of xorg my Eclipse stopped running. The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'. Does anyone has the same problem?
[10:35] <azlon> what is an rmp file? is that like an exe file?
[10:35] <EcoBlue> oh dear I'm tired
[10:36] <zackie> Okay when i select extract on the .tar.gz package brings up the folder which has what i want to install over the old version... how do i install it? there is no Source doc in there...
[10:36] <EcoBlue> and my body is telling me to sleep
[10:36] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i forget what is cmos?
[10:36] <EcoBlue> bois
[10:36] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: when you first power on your computer or do restart, it will tell you what button to press to enter cmos/bios
[10:36] <BoltClock> dgjones: i installed the driver but ubuntu now wants to start in low graphics mode, so i did, what should i do?
[10:36] <azlon> !rpm
[10:36] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[10:36] <jsemmanuel> jay-oh-en: i am new to linux but i guess you use ifconfig for that
[10:36] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, ohh
[10:36] <jsemmanuel> try man ifconfig
[10:36] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: on mine its DEL key, some are F2, some are other buttons like ESC
[10:36] <Suva> n2diy: What you do on your private time is your own business :P
[10:36] <Jay-Oh-En> jsemmanuel, ill just look it up on google
[10:36] <jsemmanuel> jay-oh-en: sure
[10:37] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i know mine
[10:37] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i had to reset my cmos before lol
[10:37] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, after i get the info what do i do?
[10:37] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: if you are not familiar with what i am saying, i cant tell you. its so dangerous, may require re-install or worse, no boot of any OS
[10:38] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i smoke weed thats why i forget things but they are coming back to me
[10:38] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En:  read up on hdparm using the help button top bar
[10:38] <n2diy> Suva: Yep!
[10:38] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: just enabling it in services wont give u the performance
[10:38] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i rather you help me step by step
[10:39] <azlon> is there a huge advantage to using 7.10 over 7.04? anything a newb would notice?
[10:39] <hamid11771> hi all
[10:39] <EcoBlue> does anyone use PCGen
[10:39] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: i dont think i can do that. it requires you to restart, and then you may never make it back
[10:39] <EcoBlue> azlon, the numbers are different
[10:39] <ArthurArchnix> azlon: I newb on a newer (say 2006+) machine will notice that it's tons and tons easier.
[10:39] <azlon> that is huge
[10:39] <hamid11771> can i use the defult theme of KDE4 (OXYGEN) in ubuntu gutsy ?
[10:39] <EcoBlue> bed I shall not sleep in you
[10:40] <EcoBlue> brb gettig energy
[10:40] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, whatever trust me im not dumb i know alot about computers (i built this one) thats why i use linux i just forget things cause i smoke ganja
[10:40] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: best thing i can say, is search help files for hdparm, i wont be resposible for someone trashing an OS. its dangerous.
[10:40] <misslecommander> lol
[10:40] <jsemmanuel> jay-oh-en: whats ganja?
[10:40] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, so will you help me
[10:40] <azlon> f' it, ill install 7.10, brb
[10:40] <Jay-Oh-En> jsemmanuel, marijane
[10:40] <krim> azlon: I think compiz first became default with 7.10, that's kind of big. And it just looks better and has newer software. I'd suggest you check out the changelog for 7.10 and you'll see if you think it's worth updating
[10:40] <BoltClock> could anyone help me? i just installed the driver for my graphics card (NVIDIA GeForce7100, onboard) for my new gutsy installation but it had a bit of a problem and now is running in low graphics mode
[10:40] <misslecommander> do you know how to join a channel ?
[10:40] <n2diy> misslecommander: I thought that was called house cleaning?
[10:40] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, yes
[10:41] <misslecommander> type /misslecom
[10:41] <Guillem> since I've upgraded some xorg packages today, compiz-fusion crashes xorg at the very start
[10:41] <BoltClock> any...body?
[10:41] <nikken> anyone? -> <nikken> does anyone know how to spawn a new child from wifi0 (master)?
[10:42] <n2diy> nikken: they might know that in #/bash?
[10:42] <Kalamansi> what is the implication of this reply "<ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)" ? thanks
[10:43] <n2diy> Kalamansi: your talking to  a robot?
[10:43] <Odo> !op
[10:43] <Simulator> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52393/
[10:43] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[10:43] <Kalamansi> n2diy : thats the implication?
[10:43] <Madpilot> Odo, ?
[10:43] <BoltClock> could anyone help me? i just installed the driver for my graphics card (NVIDIA GeForce7100, onboard) for my new gutsy installation but it had a bit of a problem and now is running in low graphics mode
[10:43] <Simulator> hello i have problem when i login to desktop
[10:43] <n2diy> Kalamansi: here, yes it is.
[10:44] <Simulator> this log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52393/
[10:44] <Odo> Madpilot, sorry bad window , i'm sorry
[10:44] <Mez> Odo, ?
[10:44] <n2diy> ! bot
[10:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:44] <Kalamansi> n2diy - oh my g... *blushes*
[10:44] <Madpilot> Odo, ah, OK. no harm done
[10:44] <Odo> Madpilot, i'm really sorry :(
[10:45] <n2diy> Kalamansi:  :) welcome aboard.
[10:45] <BoltClock> anyone?
[10:46] <Guillem> sorry. My fault. I installed nvidia drivers manually. reinstalling has solved my issues
[10:48] <Simulator> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52393/   hello anybody can help me i cant login to gnome dekstop
[10:48] <Simulator> Jan 18 18:16:13 linux gdmgreeter[5715]: GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed
[10:48] <Simulator> Jan 18 18:16:13 linux gdmgreeter[5715]: GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed
[10:49] <KenSentMe> Evolution moves my mail into the trash if i want to move it to another imap-folder. And i can't get it back to Inbox for example. How can i save my mail?
[10:49] <fluidite> llo
[10:49] <BoltClock> i installed a graphics driver but now ubuntu has to start in low graphics mode so here i am, what should i do to correct the problem? NVIDIA GeForce7100 onboard graphics card
[10:51] <misslecommander> BoltClock: i believe > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:53] <kbrooks> umm
[10:53] <goodhabit> Hello. How can I ckeck my harddrive? Because some last days ubuntu waiting before executing applications, cpu empty, etc. and working takes many time. I think it is possible trouble with harddrive.
[10:53] <ushimitsudoki> Can the gnome-games such as Iagno be played over the LAN? If so, how?
[10:54] <rasputnik> ushimitsudoki, you mean multiplayer, or remote desktop?
[10:54] <kbrooks> goodhabit, well, unlikely to be
[10:54] <ushimitsudoki> rasputnik: I mean multiplayer, where I have 2+ boxes on the LAN and we want to play against each other
[10:55] <goodhabit> kbrooks, sorry?
[10:55] <Simulator> hello http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52393/
[10:55] <kbrooks> goodhabit, ubuntu may be running slow. the chance that this is a HD problem is almost nil
[10:56] <pyrotix> graargh. does anyone know how to move a bunch of cells in oo.org calc to a table in writer? Aid an HS student pulling an all-nighter trying (possibly vainly) to finish an assignment in time
[10:56] <markuman> i'm on a up to date ubuntu 7.10 server. if i want to restart lighttpd it don't work. it seems that the lighttpd don't stop and is still listen on port 80. so restart don't work. http://pastebin.com/m449cde27
[10:56] <pyrotix> when I copy or paste, its in its own object
[10:56] <pyrotix> which is impossible to manipulate
[10:56] <goodhabit> kbingham_, I am using ubuntu long time. but it is really slower than normal state.
[10:56] <goodhabit> Not slow actually, but waiting before executing.
[10:56] <MuNzE> some have problem with azureus after update xorg today????
[10:57] <kbrooks> goodhabit, well, for some reassurance to you, i guess you can check for ata errors. pastebin the file that is created by this command:
[10:57] <kbrooks> goodhabit, dmesg | grep -i driveready
[10:58] <kbrooks> goodhabit, er ... hold on
[10:58] <kbrooks> goodhabit, dmesg | grep -i driveready > output
[10:58] <carlesoriol> How can I do a renice using the process name?
[10:58] <Carb0n> hi, anyone find any problems with flashplugin-nonfree
[10:58] <Carb0n> I'm getting an md5sum mismatch
[10:58] <kbrooks> goodhabit, open a terminal, and type that command
[10:58] <Carb0n> even after downloading the tar.gz locally
[10:58] <goodhabit> kbrooks, $ sudo dmesg | grep -i driveready > output    shows nothing.
[10:59] <kbrooks> goodhabit, it outputs nothing, its supposed to
[10:59] <kbrooks> goodhabit, then open up the file named "output" with a text editor
[10:59] <kbrooks> goodhabit, go to
[10:59] <kbrooks> !paste > goodhabit
[10:59] <goodhabit> kbrooks, waitwait :)
[10:59] <Guillem> pyrotix,  what about special-paste?
[10:59] <goodhabit> I know paste, i know dmesg, I know grep.
[11:00] <goodhabit> But it is empty.
[11:00] <bauer_> how do i get a counter-strike server on ubuntu ?
[11:00] <moidekar> Hi, I'm trying to get Ubuntu 7.04 to make a GPRS connection. I've gotten the phone plugged in (a Motorola Razr V3i) and it's detected as ttyACM0, and wvdialconf finds it. However, I don't know what special number to dial to activate the GPRS connection. Can anyone help, please?
[11:00] <Carb0n> anybody with a similar problems with flashplugin-nonfree?
[11:00] <Carb0n> !flashplugin
[11:00] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:00] <kbrooks> goodhabit, wc -l output - does it say 0?
[11:00] <Guillem> pyrotix, or also, selecting the cells and pasting via mouse-middle-button
[11:00] <erUSUL> moidekar: you will have to ask your isp (movile company) me thinks
[11:00] <goodhabit> kbrooks, yes.
[11:01] <kbrooks> goodhabit, all right, no HD problems then
[11:01] <goodhabit> kbrooks, are you shure about grep -i driveready ?
[11:01] <angelillo> ( Computer Stats ) [ CPU Model: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T7200  @ 2.00GH Speed: 2057.343 MHz Cache: 4096 KB ] | RAM Usage: 19/29M [|||||||||||] ( 65.5% ) | [ HD Model: Virtual HDD [0] Size: 5G with 2G Free ( 40.0% ) ] | Number of process: 52
[11:01] <moidekar> erUSUL: There's no standard no. like #777 for CDMA? I tried googling, but came up with not much
[11:01] <goodhabit> I have never seen driveready word there.
[11:01] <moDumass> man NAS200 is a slow assed devise
[11:01] <BarbaraSalesch> is there a way using the command $ sudo aptitude download mplayer-nogui     to dowload the dependencies also ?
[11:01] <BoltClock> missilecommander: um, i cant edit xorg.conf
[11:01] <goodhabit> BarbaraSalesch, $ sudo aptitude install -d mplayer-nogui
[11:02] <kbrooks> goodhabit, linux logs a error message with one of the lines having "driveready" (cased properly, obviously)
[11:02] <kbrooks> goodhabit, when it cant access the hard drive
[11:02] <goodhabit> I see, thanks.
[11:03] <kbrooks> goodhabit, due to sector problems
[11:03] <pyrotix> Guillem: no go, although #kubuntu has made me aware that kate/kword can convert it to plaintext which is better
[11:03] <kbrooks> goodhabit, also, you can use
[11:03] <goodhabit> But maybe there are some tool to check my harddrive?
[11:03] <kbrooks> !info smartmontools > goodhabit
[11:03] <goodhabit> thanks again.
[11:03] <kbrooks> goodhabit, to catch problems before they happen
[11:03] <DarthSOup> woah
[11:04] <n2diy> ! bash
[11:04] <Guillem> pyrotix, paste-special -> "rtf text" (or unforrmatted text)
[11:04] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[11:04] <Guillem> pyrotix, after copying in calc
[11:04] <moidekar> anyway, thanks, erUSUL - will check their site and try to avoid a call to the darn helpdesk.
[11:04] <BarbaraSalesch> does  sudo aptitude install -d mplayer-nogui  install the package to my system ?
[11:05] <majikins> hi has anyone setup a software raid1 system that works?
[11:05] <erUSUL> moidekar: the truth is that i dunno exactly becouse never used my mobile to connect to internet but i expect it to work as a dial up modem...
[11:05] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, yes
[11:06] <pyrotix> Guillem: right click gave no special paste, but w/e no matter now
[11:06] <BarbaraSalesch> kbrooks,  i just want to download a package with all depends to a file on /home  without install
[11:07] <Guillem> pyrotix, special paste is at edit menu
[11:07] <BarbaraSalesch> kbrooks, aptitude download package   only dls the package it self without depends.  do you know a way ?
[11:07] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, i was wrong, no to your "iinstalll" question, that command you gave will do that
[11:07] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, but ,...
[11:08] <BarbaraSalesch> kbrooks,  i'll just give it a try ;)
[11:08] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, you'll have a slightly hard time finding the packages without doing something like
[11:08] <zhanx> anyone here know if there is a channel for advanced soldering tips?
[11:09] <alpaco> join /#perlhelp
[11:09] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, cd /var/cache/apt; sudo mv archives archives2 && sudo mkdir archives
[11:09] <majikins> anyone know of a channel I can go to for raid1 advice?
[11:09] <misslecommander> do "/list" to list the channels, then use search
[11:09] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, then run that, and then run
[11:09] <zhanx> misslecommander, didn't find anything
[11:10] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, sudo mv archives2 archives
[11:10] <zhanx> misslecommander, hoping someone knew off hand
[11:10] <misslecommander> zhanx: what you soldering ?
[11:10] <misslecommander> zhanx: please dont say mod-chips :)
[11:10] <BarbaraSalesch> in /var/cache/archives   are the packages already set with depends or are they also scattered around there ?
[11:10] <zhanx> surface mount pcm, for a usb to serial for my laptop
[11:10] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, thats why i gave you the tip
[11:10] <zhanx> misslecommander, never a mod chip
[11:11] <misslecommander> lol
[11:11] <BarbaraSalesch> kbrooks,  was that a yes to ^^
[11:11] <Javid> If I were about to do a distro upgrade from FF to GG, how would I keep a specific (non-critical) package from being upgraded?
[11:11] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, there are more packages than the deps + pkg there that you want to d/l
[11:11] <rsferreir1> Gusty LiveCD runs fine, but Ubuntu won't work after install unless ACPI=off. What may be causing this (using a Vaio laptop)
[11:11] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, a better hint than mine:
[11:11] <misslecommander> searcg google with "soldering IRC"
[11:11] <zhanx> misslecommander, i am out of country so i dont have access to my tool kit at the house.. got a cold heat soldering gun, sucks for that tho
[11:12] <VSpike> I need to process a file in a script and do multiple search and replace operations.  What is the best way to do that? Chain lots of calls to sed?
[11:12] <punzada> http://www.speedtest.net/result/223624091.png    just incase anyone wanted to wet their pants a little
[11:12] <punzada> <3 my work machines
[11:12] <misslecommander> zhanx: dont know what to tell ya, but google it
[11:12] <punzada> lol
[11:12] <VSpike> zhanx: what was the original question?
[11:12] <erudified> Hey! Anyone know how to get XGL working in Hardy?
[11:12] <astronaute> can anyone tell me where to configure stdout and stderr logs on ubuntu 7.10 / tomcat 5.5 please ?
[11:13] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, sudo aptitude autoclean && sudo aptitude clean
[11:13] <misslecommander> punzada: not bad upstream
[11:13] <Ziroday> erudified: wrong channel
[11:13] <punzada> and btw
[11:13] <punzada> that's with ~25 game servers running on the box
[11:13] <erudified> Ziroday, what's the right channel?
[11:13] <punzada> lol
[11:13] <Karotte> hi
[11:13] <rsferreir1> Gusty LiveCD runs fine, but Ubuntu won't work after install unless ACPI=off. What may be causing this (using a Vaio Laptop)?
[11:13] <Ziroday> erudified: ubuntu+1
[11:13] <misslecommander> edu ?
[11:13] <magick> I have a blinking cursor while trying to install ubuntu from the CD. I have an IP35 chipset with an NVIDIA 8600GT video card. What could be the problem here? md5 checked out but trying to check for defects also leads to a blinking cursor.
[11:13] <Karotte> I'm searching a good hex editor for gnome (ghex is buggy), any idea what I should use?
[11:14] <wosquito> ÎÁÛÅÌ ;)
[11:14] <punzada> naw
[11:14] <misslecommander> they usually have bombs for pipes
[11:14] <punzada> work for a hosting company
[11:14] <punzada> lol
[11:14] <Shadow98> I need some major help I cannot ubuntu to load what information do you need to help me please
[11:14] <Ziroday> !best | Karotte
[11:14] <misslecommander> even better
[11:14] <zhanx> VSpike, sorry, my girl distracted me.. need a how to on soldering surface mounts (replacing) with a cold heat or something cheap
[11:14] <ubotu> Karotte: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[11:14] <Karotte> hrm
[11:14] <zhanx> VSpike, or a channel
[11:14] <BarbaraSalesch> ok
[11:14] <misslecommander> i can down that but not up it
[11:14] <Ziroday> Shadow98: we need more information
[11:14] <wosquito> ÎÏ ÎÅ ÐÁÛÅÔ ;(
[11:15] <OshaMaHUe> hi my ubuntu crashed and i couldnt install again because of errno 5. now i need to rip another ubuntu. but i cannot open my xp. is there anyway to open my xp
[11:15] <zhanx> OshaMaHUe, live cd reinstall grub
[11:16] <OshaMaHUe> how do i do that
[11:16] <Shadow98> ok I know the cd and memory is ok tested both I get just past the orange bar and get a couple of things that say [ok] this flashes a couple times and then nothing more happens
[11:16] <zhanx> OshaMaHUe, > !grub
[11:16] <Shadow98> I have waited about 10 mins to see if it will load
[11:16] <zhanx> OshaMaHUe, | !grub
[11:16] <OshaMaHUe> !gurb
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gurb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <zhanx> !grub
[11:16] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:17] <Ziroday> Shadow98: when it boots up (the orange bar) press f1 to get detailed messages, record what is happening and come back to use with the specific error message, also try acpi=off and noapic at boot prompt
[11:17] <OshaMaHUe> thanks
[11:17] <zhanx> yep
[11:17] <Ziroday> Shadow98: sorry thats alt+f1
[11:17] <Shadow98> ok thank you will give it a try
[11:19] <shredder> hi anyone more than me has problems with the latest x.org update?
[11:19] <rsferreir1> Gusty LiveCD runs fine, but Ubuntu won't work after install unless ACPI=off. What may be causing this (using a Vaio laptop)?
[11:19] <shredder> eclipse just won't start anymore
[11:20] <petepete> shredder, my eclipse is working fine, although I haven't restarted my PC since update
[11:20] <petepete> shredder, maybe check your java settings?
[11:20] <labanux> anyone has already sucess installing KDE 4.0 in gutsy?
[11:20] <shredder> nope java has been working fine. I see the same in ubuntuforums right now actually.
[11:21] <labanux> i've follow the instruction, but it always did'nt work
[11:21] <tehrafff> hi all, i got a problem  with gusty. im on dualboot with xp and when i start the computer only windows is launching, so i have changed my grub menu.lst but i cant save it i havent got the permission
[11:21] <ePax> How can i change kernel from 686 to 386? I have problems with installing some apps... like video lan and xchat...
[11:21] <ikonia> ePax: that shouldn't cause issues
[11:21] <ikonia> ePax: what version of ubuntu are you running
[11:21] <petepete> shredder, could you give me the link to the thread in forums.... just incase mine dies after restart!
[11:21] <tehrafff> 5sorry for my bad english im french
[11:21] <shredder> petepete: don't restart :)
[11:22] <shredder> johj http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671067&highlight=eclipse
[11:22] <coal> Hi, is there anyone that kan tell me how to finde out where a process was starteded from?
[11:22] <shredder> ah petepete: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671067&highlight=eclipse
[11:22] <labanux> i always get this error message (Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net gutsy Release.gpg) when i'm try'n to apt-get update to KDE 4.0 repo
[11:22] <simion314> hi, i have a new sound card and it has a driver for linux and installation instructions, but ubuntu already installed a driver and i do not know if i must remove the old one first
[11:22] <shredder> no solution yet though.
[11:22] <Shirowtaku> i have an problem with spicebird. can someone help me?
[11:22] <ikonia> labanux: you need to add the repo's gpg key
[11:22] <ikonia> Shirowtaku: spicebird ?
[11:22] <^NighT^WalkeR^> can anyone tell me how i can edit the grub loader?
[11:23] <shredder> petepete: this has some more info:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671020&highlight=eclipse
[11:23] <Shirowtaku> yes
[11:23] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: sure the config file is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:23] <labanux> ikonia : could you tell me how to add the repo's gpg key?
[11:23] <Shirowtaku> http://www.spicebird.com/
[11:23] <malawar> where's the k7 kernel? :(
[11:23]  * malawar just installed ubuntu
[11:23] <petepete> shredder, thats very bad news... i NEED eclipse... looks like im suspending for the next few days ;)
[11:23] <^NighT^WalkeR^> ikonia but i can't save when i have editet
[11:23] <ikonia> malawar: all kernels are now "generic" rather than arch specific
[11:23] <tehrafff> hi all, i got a problem  with gusty. im on dualboot with xp and when i start the computer only windows is launching, so i have changed my grub menu.lst but i cant save it i havent got the permission. i use the live cd to acess to my linux partition
[11:23] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: use sudo before the editor command
[11:23] <ikonia> tehrafff: use sudo before the editor command also
[11:24] <labanux> anyone know where's the working server for KDE 4.0 repo?
[11:24] <ikonia> !sudo > tehrafff
[11:24] <tehrafff> okay thanks
[11:24] <erawfish> !kde4
[11:24] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[11:24] <white_eagle> oh, irssi is great!
[11:24] <^NighT^WalkeR^> ikonia like this sudo gedit menu.lst ?
[11:24] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: thats the idea
[11:24] <Seveas> ikonia, ^NighT^WalkeR^: no
[11:24] <Seveas> gksudo gedit ...
[11:24] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: if usina a graphical app use gksudo
[11:24] <simion314> hi, i have a new sound card and it has a driver for linux and installation instructions, but ubuntu already installed a driver and i do not know if i must remove the old one first,?
[11:24] <shredder> petepete: in the last thread theres an instruction how to downgrade the x update until it's fixed. I will test this now.
[11:24] <Seveas> or sudo -H gedit
[11:24] <ikonia> Seveas: hang on - give me a minute to respond ;)
[11:25] <Seveas> ikonia, k ;)
[11:25] <white_eagle> simion314: does the sound work?
[11:25] <Seveas> I was surprised about you saying something not-too-smart :)
[11:25] <^NighT^WalkeR^> seveas ikonia thanx bot of you
[11:25] <ikonia> Seveas: thats the "idea" - more detail was following
[11:25] <simion314> white_eagle:it works for a while and then the ubuntu hangs, it breake, and i must restart
[11:26] <coal> Simple Linux question: Could anyone tell me how finde out where a process was starteded from?
[11:26] <ikonia> coal: as in the directory or what started it
[11:26] <coal> yes and maby who
[11:27] <^NighT^WalkeR^> ikonia i can't get into the directory with terminal
[11:27] <ikonia> coal: which one ? I asked one of two and you responded with "yes"
[11:27] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: explain ?
[11:27] <coal> ikonia: both
[11:27] <moad> where do i change the settings in firefox ?
[11:27] <ikonia> coal: well what started something is quite hard unless you want to trace parent/children pid relation shipse
[11:27] <amores> buenas algun español
[11:27] <ikonia> coal: most things are started by init scripts
[11:27] <moad> i cant find anything under Tools
[11:28] <BoltClock> im having major problems with my graphics card and gutsy
[11:28] <ikonia> coal: who started it is normally the owner in the process out of "ps -ef"
[11:28] <jaggz-> why is there no python 2.4.1 here.. all the python files come in 2.4.1 and 2.4.2 except the actual python itself http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python2.4/
[11:28] <jaggz-> I know it's old.. but I have to get this system working :(
[11:28] <^NighT^WalkeR^> ikonia i can't get that far down in the filesystem
[11:28] <amores> hay algun español
[11:28] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: what are you actually typing
[11:28] <ikonia> !es | ampex
[11:28] <ubotu> ampex: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[11:28] <ikonia> oops
[11:28] <^NighT^WalkeR^> cd..
[11:28] <ikonia> !es | amores
[11:28] <ubotu> amores: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[11:28] <coal> ikonia: I have a pid that sayes owner: nobody
[11:28] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: try this "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:28] <ikonia> coal: nobody is actually a user
[11:29] <ikonia> coal: what process are you looking at
[11:30] <^NighT^WalkeR^> thanks ikonia
[11:30] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: no problem
[11:30] <EcoBlue> lol spanish
[11:30] <^NighT^WalkeR^> let's see if this works...
[11:30] <EcoBlue> still tired, and I drank some bawls too
[11:30] <BoltClock> can anyone help me with my problem? graphics problems here haunting me
[11:30] <^NighT^WalkeR^> i'm off
[11:30] <juli2> Hi
[11:30] <juli2> as anyone install pfb fonts in ubuntu?
[11:31] <erUSUL> BoltClock: you will have to provide some more details
[11:32] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, its not faster at all
[11:32] <BoltClock> erUSUL: im on a fresh gutsy install. my graphics card is an onboard NVIDIA GF7100. i installed the proprietary driver that gutsy asked me to install but now it can only start safely in low graphics mode
[11:33] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En HD performance not video
[11:33] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, you said makes it faster
[11:33] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: i know it does
[11:33] <misslecommander> file accessand xfer
[11:33] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, makes programs load faster? they load the same speed
[11:34] <coal> ikonia: Sorry, had to check on my baby-boy. The pid is a atftpd
[11:34] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: then you dont have 32bit xfer enabled in bios/cmos
[11:34] <UBUNTUJAY123> my cpu runs at 70 to 90% at all times what could be wrong
[11:34] <erawfish> UBUNTUJAY123: which process uses the CPU?
[11:34] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i have a 64bit computer
[11:34] <misslecommander> UBUNTUJAY123 that could get a little hot in there
[11:34] <petepete> UBUNTUJAY123, go into console and type: top
[11:34] <ePax> ikonia: Sorry i was litle away... I have 7.10
[11:35] <misslecommander> as do i 64bit
[11:35] <moad> what are the most useful Gnome Panel Applets ?
[11:35] <erUSUL> BoltClock: can you post your lspci output on paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[11:35] <UBUNTUJAY123> htop
[11:35] <erawfish> Jay-Oh-En: 64 or 32bit has nothing to do with how fast your hdd gets data
[11:35] <Jay-Oh-En> UBUNTUJAY123, open terminal and use the command htop
[11:35] <UBUNTUJAY123> i already got that
[11:35] <^NighT^WalkeR^> is it possible to have keyring without a password?
[11:35] <BoltClock> erUSUL: lspci outpu?
[11:35] <UBUNTUJAY123> what do i look for in there
[11:35] <BoltClock> output*
[11:35] <Jay-Oh-En> erawfish, well i looked everywhere i couldnt find the 32bit transfers
[11:35] <ePax> When i try to install VLC i get message that it couldnt be installed so i need to install it thrue synaptic.... but i can not install it there either.
[11:35] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: you are mixing 64bit bus with 32buit HD xfers, not the same
[11:35] <erawfish> Jay-Oh-En: why would you want those?
[11:36] <Jay-Oh-En> ePax, sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:36] <Jay-Oh-En> erawfish, to make my computer faster
[11:36] <petepete> UNBUNTUJAY: errr the top process? the one which is using all your cpu?!
[11:36] <erawfish> Jay-Oh-En: while you can do set stuff like that with hdparm, you really shouldn't do i
[11:36] <Jay-Oh-En> erawfish, to make my hdd faster
[11:36] <erawfish> it
[11:36] <erUSUL> BoltClock: run lspci on a terminal
[11:36] <erawfish> Jay-Oh-En: how fast is it right now?
[11:36] <ePax> ill try that
[11:36] <UBUNTUJAY123> theres two things that has a red 19 beside it in htop
[11:36] <Jay-Oh-En> erawfish, kinda slow for the stuff i have in my computer
[11:37] <erawfish> ie what disk is it and what does hdparm -tT  on it say?
[11:37] <Jay-Oh-En> UBUNTUJAY123, whats using the most cpu %
[11:38] <BoltClock> erUSUL: what command do i use?
[11:38] <UBUNTUJAY123> python
[11:38] <zackie> I need Extensive help with something Mundane and super easy so it seems to all you Ubuntu Guru's haha
[11:38] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: you couldnt have done it the way i showed you. i thought it was funny you edited a protected file with gedit
[11:38] <erawfish> UBUNTUJAY123: so what python script uses the CPU?
[11:39] <zackie> It is just installing Tar.Gz Files.. [][][][][][][][]
[11:39] <UBUNTUJAY123> i dont know
[11:39] <erUSUL> BoltClock: lspci
[11:40] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, how gksudo gedit /etc/hdparm.conf will work the same as nano i prefer gui whats the problem with that
[11:40] <zackie> It is just installing Tar.Gz Files.. [][][][][][][][]
[11:40] <zackie> I need Extensive help with something Mundane and super easy so it seems to all you Ubuntu Guru's haha
[11:40] <BoltClock> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52397
[11:40] <juli2> as anyone install pfb fonts in ubuntu?
[11:40] <zackie> not so much extensive.. haha
[11:40] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: not getting into it, but i figured you didnt have the skill to do it
[11:40] <BoltClock> doesnt look good
[11:41] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i have more experience then you bro
[11:41] <predaeus> Hello, what is the sudo switch again to really emulate root? I need to echo to /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax and need "real" root rights for that.
[11:41] <misslecommander> lol
[11:41] <bardyr> predaeus, sudp -i
[11:41] <misslecommander> this isnt flame, and i highly doubt you do.
[11:41] <zackie> I need Extensive help with something Mundane and super easy so it seems to all you Ubuntu Guru's haha
[11:41]  * Jay-Oh-En hates when people doubt him
[11:42] <bardyr> predaeus, sudo -i *
[11:42] <zoom> I backed out the recent update to xorg by replacing the newer xserver-xorg-core 1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1 with the previous 1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8. VLC now works fine again.
[11:42] <erawfish> Jay-Oh-En: you don't have the need to do it either
[11:42] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, hdparm isnt something i tried to get into thats why i dont know alot aboutt it
[11:42] <iltomee_> i want to map the Super_L key to work as the Control_L. i have an .xmodmap file with this content: keysym Super_L = Control_L. the super_L still wont work as a contorl
[11:42] <bardyr> zackie, extract it and read the README/INSTALL files
[11:42] <predaeus> bardyr, doesn't work, $ ls /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax -l-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-01-18 12:38 /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
[11:42] <erawfish> Jay-Oh-En: you are still very mistaken about what you need and show do
[11:42] <Jay-Oh-En> whatever
[11:43] <Jay-Oh-En> erawfish, ?
[11:43] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: i can assure you 32bit xfers are much faster. like it or not, its true
[11:43] <bardyr> predaeus, whats the problem?
[11:43] <predaeus> bardyr, ah, I think due to the nature of sudo I need to encase the command somehow.
[11:43] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i wasnt doubting that! i just couldnt find it in my cmos
[11:43] <predaeus> sudo -i echo "0x7fffffff" > /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax bash: /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax: Permission denied
[11:43] <predaeus> bardyr, ^^^
[11:43] <Carb0n> !Flash
[11:44] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:44] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[11:44] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: its ok, your not the first
[11:44] <Besnik> Hello, could someone give me a hint about sound in Gutsy Gibonn? I'm running it on a HP Pavilion dv6000, but I hear no sound from the box
[11:44] <bardyr> predaeus, you just need sudo cmd for that if you want to be root your type sudo -i
[11:44] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, do the first link and scroll down
[11:44] <predaeus> bardyr, ah ok got it.
[11:44] <Carb0n> ok, I'm trying
[11:44] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i seriously looked everywhere thats why it took me so long
[11:45] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: I saw it, but can't find the update-flashplugin command
[11:45] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, or until you see a box with commands in it
[11:45] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: dont worry about, i am fine. you are fine. get on with the linux help. i listen mostly
[11:45] <antares>  My message is on http://paste.debian.net/47141
[11:45] <rudlavibizon_> hi
[11:45] <BoltClock> erUSUL: how is it?
[11:45] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: Why haven't they updated the repos?
[11:45] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, nope
[11:46] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: Is bug #173890 closed?
[11:46] <misslecommander> how often they update them ?
[11:46] <rudlavibizon_> where can i find the list of dependencies for each packet?
[11:46] <predaeus> bardyr, ok I think that did it. For some /proc settings you need to be root to write access them.
[11:46] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i just had a update
[11:46] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, try updating it
[11:47] <Jay-Oh-En> sudo update-flashplugin
[11:47] <rudlavibizon_> but not in synaptic in a text file?
[11:47] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, that didnt work for me
[11:47] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: command not found.  Do you think I should enable the ubuntu-proposed repo?
[11:47] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, its on that page tho
[11:47] <simion314> hi, i have a new sound card and it has a driver for linux and installation instructions, but ubuntu already installed a driver and i do not know if i must remove the old one first,?
[11:48] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, i think you should install flash the way it says in the link
[11:48] <mavi-> simion314: doesnt the one that ubuntu installed work?
[11:48] <Jay-Oh-En> simion314, no
[11:48] <zackie> This may be a lame question how do i found out what Linux version i'm using.. i know it Ubunto 7.1 but what is gutsy and feisty? and all that jazz?
[11:48] <^NighT^WalkeR^> anyone know if it is possible to have a keyring without a password?
[11:48] <mavi-> zackie: 7.10 is gutsy
[11:48] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: I'm attempting that and hitting the brick wall ;-)
[11:48] <Jay-Oh-En> simion314, do not remove the old one first
[11:48] <zackie> mavi___Thanks..
[11:48] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, want me to walk you through it?
[11:49] <bardyr> does anyone know about the program that can turn a windows box into a vmware/virtualbox image?
[11:49] <simion314> Jay-Oh-En,so i can install the new one it will not happen something bad?
[11:49] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: I don't know which part I'm missing.  Please do.
[11:49] <Jay-Oh-En> simion314, correct
[11:49] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: that question was asked the other day and although I can't validate it the person testing said "yes you can"
[11:49] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, sudo -i
[11:49] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, wget http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[11:49] <zackie> mavi___I've been up for 28 hours trying to figure out ubuntu.. i'm an extream windows user but... i got super drunk and played a trick on myself and Installed Ubuntu. Yess i have mental problems... lol just trying to figure out how to use it..
[11:50] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, tar zxvf install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[11:50] <mavi-> zackie: =) nice one
[11:50] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, cd install_flash_player_9_linux/
[11:50] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, ./flashplayer-installer
[11:50] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: wait
[11:50] <^NighT^WalkeR^> ikonia you wouldn't happen to have an idea on how to do this
[11:50] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, do it in that order
[11:50] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: the tar.gz file is already downloaded
[11:50] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: no, sorry, it's not something I've done personally
[11:50] <simion314> Jay-Oh-En: thx, i was afraid that the both drivers will try to run and a conflict can raise, i have problems with the default driver, (at least i belive it is the driver)
[11:51] <juli2> How can i install pfb fonts?
[11:51] <zackie> mavi___Sadly itsnot ajoke haha... it sucks but i i'm making my slef think... Ubuntu/Linux is super hard to cope with.. INstalling/downloading new programs/installing its a wonder i found "Bitchx" to chat with what IRC do you all use?
[11:51] <juli2> i have try many ways but with no luck
[11:51] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: I did a dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree, and it asked for the path
[11:51] <mavi-> zackie: on the system menu you should have a "about ubuntu" if you need to know again sometime
[11:51] <Jay-Oh-En> zackie, what are you trying to figure out to use
[11:51] <mavi-> zackie: use the built in package manager to get new programs
[11:51] <spike> is anybody here running ubuntu on a macbook and managed to get the eyboard to behave like on a pc?
[11:51] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, why not just do what i just told you? and your flash will work
[11:51] <^NighT^WalkeR^> ikonia ok thanx anyway
[11:51] <zackie> i don't know who direct.. lol this is my first time on an IRC channel
[11:51] <mavi-> zackie: add/remove in the menu
[11:52] <spike> I cant get right click to work, or alt/meta key etc :/
[11:52] <ikonia> spike: that would be an awesome howto, document what your doing and if you get a fix
[11:52] <ikonia> spike: that would be fantastic for the wiki
[11:52] <edeca> Can I use make-kpkg to create a .deb from a vanilla kernel.org kernel?  I don't want to use the one with ubuntu patches as I'm trying to figure out if a bug is in the kernel or the ubuntu build
[11:52] <zackie> mavi___call me an Idiot savant... but add/remove dosen't help nore does Sypnatic... for my usage so to speak
[11:52] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: Please don't get irritated, pal.  I'm trying not to pollute the apt db
[11:52] <spike> ikonia: there is some stuff on the wiki actually, but it doesnt work :/
[11:52] <ikonia> edeca: no, you'd need to setup a source deb
[11:52] <mavi-> zackie: what are you trying to do?
[11:53] <erUSUL> BoltClock: do 'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and search for Section "Device" and add to that section a line «  BusId "PCI:0:1:0" »
[11:53] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: I know the ./install.bin method
[11:53] <ikonia> spike: exactly hence a working one would be good
[11:53] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: But don't want to attempt it.
[11:53] <bardyr> edeca, there are some how to compile a kernel the debian way, they are pretty good
[11:53] <edeca> ikonia: OK, cheers.  I'll just install the kernel manually and remove it after :)
[11:53] <bardyr> edeca, howto's
[11:53] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: I'm not trying to somehow make it work
[11:53] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, im not irritated sorry if i came off that way lol
[11:53] <moad> what is a good app to burn music and videos ?
[11:53] <spike> ikonia: k, ta
[11:53] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, "pal"
[11:53] <edeca> bardyr: I'm reading one which uses make-kpkg, but that seems to mandate using a source package and I can't find one without ubuntu patches
[11:53] <bardyr> moad, k3b
[11:53] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: I'm no n00b, been fiddling with Debian Sarge for 3 years
[11:54] <spike> also, I'm confused by beryl etc, what's "the thing" today, compiz-fusion?
[11:54] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, then im noob compared to you
[11:54] <zackie> mavi___I'm trying to learn how to download apps that i like... and install them but i don't know how to when i download on to desktop .tar.gz.... how do you install if you can't find them on synaptic/add/remove...
[11:54] <BoltClock> there is a bus id already there, do i add it below?
[11:54] <bardyr> edeca, http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_debian_etch
[11:54] <Jay-Oh-En> !compiz | spike
[11:54] <ubotu> spike: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[11:54] <misslecommander> anyone have issue where pc speaker beeping while typing ?
[11:54] <zackie> and i hate links cuz it usallly out dated...
[11:54] <mavi-> zackie: the .tar.gz is like a .zip, but dont install stuff that way, use the package manager
[11:54] <misslecommander> i checked ubuntu and this what i got
[11:54] <malawar> ok, so, i'm using the proprietary nvidia binary drivers.. i've enabled twinview. but xorg is using the wrong monitor as primary (login box shows up there, taskbar is there, etc)
[11:54] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, only when i press delete button too much
[11:54] <misslecommander> sudo rmmod pcspkr   to remove it
[11:55] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: oh no, its ok.
[11:55] <misslecommander> will that work ?
[11:55] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: been wondering why the patch for the post-inst script hasn't been made
[11:55] <zackie> mavi___ never works for me... for what i want... but i guess it depends on what i want aye?
[11:55] <erUSUL> BoltClock: what Buid is it? is the same i typed? if not replace it
[11:55] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, because they have no date so they dont worry about it til they nee to
[11:55] <BoltClock> pci 0:16:0, i will replace it now
[11:55] <misslecommander> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-272760.html  reference URL
[11:55] <mavi-> zackie: yeah, often there is ubuntu packages for software, try google ubuntu + the name of the software you want to install
[11:56] <edeca> bardyr: OK, but that suggests you can just use the sources from kernel.org with whatever patches you want and then use make-kpkg
[11:56] <mavi-> zackie: the ubuntu packages are named .deb
[11:56] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, they have otehr things to worry about like hardy and kde4
[11:56] <BoltClock> erUSUL: saved, do i restart ubuntu now?
[11:56] <edeca> bardyr: Which is actually what I'm already doing in the background, but I asked above if that would work and ikonia said no
[11:56] <zackie> mavi___Why is it that that different packages/zip's take a different way of installing them?
[11:56] <bardyr> edeca, it worked for me
[11:56] <erUSUL> BoltClock: yes you can try
[11:57] <zackie> mavi___I'm super new at this... Like i said i was drunk and installed it with out meh other personality knowing...?
[11:57] <BoltClock> alright, brb
[11:57] <edeca> bardyr: Cool :)
[11:57] <mavi-> zackie: .tar.gz is often source packages, that you need to compile
[11:57] <Sharpie> is there a way to make a window 100% transparent? (alt+mousewheel is limited to about 90%)
[11:57] <edeca> bardyr: Well make-kpkg is definitely compiling the kernel, so hopefully I'll get .debs out
[11:57] <mavi-> zackie: while .deb is like installshield in windows
[11:57] <zackie> mavi___What does Compile mean? CD somthign  Sudo somthin?
[11:57] <edeca> bardyr: Will make it easier to distribute to other machines, that's all.. thanks
[11:57] <QfwfQ> just checking...
[11:57] <mavi-> zackie: compile is when you make a program out of a programming lanugage file
[11:57] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: I heard that it is fixed in the proposed brach.  Might as well try that.
[11:57] <edeca> zackie: Compiling is turning something from source (e.g. C/C++) into the program
[11:58] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: Thanks for your time. :-)
[11:58] <Jay-Oh-En> Sharpie, no because you wont see the window to be able to bring back the transparency
[11:58] <zackie> do you have MSN/Google or what where i can talk to you directly from Pidgen?
[11:58] <Sharpie> Jay-Oh-En: you'd see it in the window list on the panel
[11:58] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, np i thought you were tryin to get it to work
[11:58] <edeca> bardyr: Thanks for your help.  I  think the fakeroot in that tutorial is going to be different.. the tutorial I found doesn't use it
[11:59] <zackie> i'll make you laugh i promise... haha
[11:59] <edeca> Urgh, I wish I could go back to running one machine with a hand rolled .config and make install :)
[11:59] <misslecommander> sudo rmmod pcspkr  safe to remove from kernel ?
[11:59] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: it's ok.  anyway, thanks for your patience.
[11:59] <Jay-Oh-En> Sharpie, not sure then
[11:59] <edeca> misslecommander: Yep
[11:59] <mavi-> zackie: under System -> Administration -> Software Sources, enable the universe and multiverse checkboxes
[11:59] <misslecommander> Edeca: thank you
[11:59] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, try it but make a backup of your kernel
[11:59] <mavi-> zackie: that way synaptic and add software finds more packages
[11:59] <mavi-> zackie: and not just core packages
[12:00] <zackie> mavi___they are all enabled..
[12:00] <mavi-> zackie: name a program you tried searching for
[12:00] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, try this sudo update-flashplugin
[12:00] <zackie> mavi___Song Bird the new verson...
[12:00] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, but make sure its installed
[12:00] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:01] <zackie> mavi___.4
[12:01] <BoltClock> erUSUL: didnt work. like before, it spits five lines, blinks a bit at those five lines, then finally decides that it has to start in low gfx mode
[12:01] <Jay-Oh-En> spike, glad to see your back
[12:01] <zackie> are most of you European? by chance?
[12:01] <erUSUL> BoltClock: :( you can try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' to reconfigure the xserver.
[12:02] <mavi-> zackie: ah, that isnt in the repos, rightclick the file and chose "extract here"
[12:02] <BoltClock> then restart again?
[12:02] <zackie> mavi__i did..
[12:02] <spike> is there anything like proxymity for ubuntu? what it does is listening for incoming bt devices and running scripts based on that
[12:02] <BoltClock> oh wait
[12:02] <BoltClock> i see a screen
[12:02] <erUSUL> BoltClock: you can restart only the X server 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[12:03] <BoltClock> Video mode to be used i.e. screen resolution i want?
[12:03] <zackie> mavi___If you have MSN/Mypace/Google Let me know... haha...
[12:03] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: It can't be installed the "apt" way until and unless I resolve the md5sum problem ;-)
[12:03] <mavi-> zackie: then just enter the directory and doubleclick the file named songbird
[12:03] <Jay-Oh-En> zackie, i do
[12:03] <bahman> Hi everybody
[12:04] <zackie> Jay-oh-En which heh...
[12:04] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, oh sudo aptitude install?
[12:04] <zackie> mavi___I know nothing about directory really .. heh..
[12:04] <axmen> any configure tor+privoxy+squid?
[12:04] <mavi-> zackie: the folder
[12:04] <Jay-Oh-En> zackie, myspace aim msn
[12:04] <mavi-> zackie. just like windows folders
[12:04] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: yup! :-)
[12:04] <mavi-> it should create a folder named Songbird where you extracted it
[12:05] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, yup that works?
[12:05] <zackie> jay-oh-en___MSN is Smuggz@hotmail.com Myspace is Smuggz@gmail.com/Zackie.ihrig@gmail.copm
[12:05] <BoltClock> erUSUL: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[12:05] <BoltClock>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080118200524
[12:05] <mavi-> zackie: did it start?
[12:05] <moad> where can i find gnome applets ?
[12:05] <zackie> using pidgen that is... i guess. lol
[12:06] <zackie> mavi___it did not start up
[12:06] <mavi-> zackie: did you find the songbird file?
[12:06] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: no, the md5sum problem persists.  And they say they've removed the fix from gutsy-proposed too.
[12:06] <Carb0n> :-(
[12:06] <bahman> Should I need an antivirus program on my Ubuntu OS, such as: http://clamtk.sourceforge.net/  Also I'm a new user!
[12:06] <zackie> mavi___i did not find it... ;(
[12:06] <mavi-> zackie: do you see the .tar.gz file?
[12:06] <Carb0n> Anyone know why f-prot is no longer available in Gutsy?
[12:06] <mavi-> zackie: rightclick it and chose extract here
[12:07] <zackie> mavi___I did it is on the desktop
[12:07] <mavi-> zackie: do it again if you did it before, it will create a folder
[12:07] <moad> i need a gnome applet directory , anyone ?
[12:07] <Jay-Oh-En> zackie, im adding you
[12:07] <zackie> mavi___Songbird "folder so to speak
[12:07] <mavi-> zackie: yes
[12:07] <mavi-> zackie: do you have that folder?
[12:07] <zackie> jay-oh-en Google talk also is Smuggz@gmail.com
[12:08] <zackie> jay-oh-en___MSN is Smuggz@hotmail.com
[12:08] <davef_> If I am on a machine behind a VPN, and want to let someone outside of it log on, how do I use ssh initiated at my end to allow them access (I can see them, they can't see me)?
[12:08] <zackie> mavi___ I have the songbird file on the desktop
[12:08] <Jay-Oh-En> zackie, oh well i dont have google talk but ill add you on msn
[12:08] <mavi-> zackie: but not the folder?
[12:08] <creed_> #gbo
[12:08] <zackie> mavi___THe folder of SOng Bird is on the desktop
[12:09] <mavi-> zackie: then doubleclick that one
[12:09] <zackie> Jay-Oh-En what is your msn
[12:09] <mavi-> zackie: and the file explorer will open
[12:09] <gamer300> привет всем
[12:09] <zackie> mavi____just brings up the directory..
[12:09] <mavi-> yes
[12:09] <mavi-> now in the directory you have a file named songbird
[12:09] <Jay-Oh-En> zackie, pronege@hotmail.com
[12:09] <mavi-> zackie: in the directory you have a file named songbird, thats the program, doubleclick that one
[12:10] <zackie> jay-oh-en___ added you there you are haha
[12:10] <BoltClock> erUSUL: upon restarting the X server it prints the same five lines ive been seeing but stops there
[12:10] <Exotics> http://exotics.heavenforum.com/index.htm            ::: free adult forum - membership is free ! be first to become a member ! .........
[12:11] <BoltClock> i had to restart the system... and it -still- doesnt work
[12:11] <UBUNTUJAY123> is the 386 or the 686 better
[12:11] <mavi-> zackie: its like c:\desktop\songbird\songbird.exe in windows terms, so you need to first go into the folder then start the program
[12:12] <zackie> mavi___The folder is in Desktop that shows all the files... but i just need to figure out how to install it all
[12:12] <mavi-> zackie: songbird isnt something you install
[12:12] <mavi-> zackie: there is no install package yet, just a zipped up folder with the program
[12:12] <zackie> mavi___It is extracted on my desktop
[12:13] <mavi-> zackie: you can move it and create a shortcut to the songbird file to start it with
[12:13] <mavi-> zackie: you dont need to install it to run it
[12:14] <erUSUL> BoltClock: :( sorry i do not know what may be wrong... you can try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' and use "nv" as the driver instead of "nvidia" you will have only 2D but it is better than low gfx
[12:14] <mavi-> zackie: just double click the program file
[12:14] <zackie> mavi___just brings opent the file and yet not installed...
[12:14] <mavi-> yes
[12:15] <mavi-> there is no installer
[12:15] <mavi-> they havent done one yet
[12:15] <BoltClock> erUSUL: i only see a screen to pick a screen resolution when i exec that command
[12:15] <pkundu> hi, I have a ubuntu live cd iso and a 2gb USB drive and a desktop running xp.my laptop cd drive is broken. can I use the iso and 2gb usb stick to install ubuntu in my laptop.
[12:15] <pkundu> my laptop does boot from usb
[12:15] <praveen_> hw do i change the orange screen color wen my gnome starts ?
[12:16] <moDumass> hmm, hey all, so i have this NAS setup. using windows share and viewing it as a foler with nautilus, but i only get about 2mbs where i have 100/1000 router and network adapters
[12:16] <UBUNTUJAY123> pkundu yes u can
[12:16] <adir1982> tu
[12:16] <moDumass> and im thinking this nas has a 10/100 any idea why my transfer speeds are so craply slow
[12:16] <pkundu> !usbstick
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usbstick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <adir1982> have this chat in hebrew ?
[12:17] <praveen_> can i change the orange screen color wen my gnome starts ? in gutsy gibbon
[12:17] <misslecommander> pkundo: you wont be able to boot with it in ISO format
[12:17] <Pici> !hebrew | adir1982
[12:17] <ubotu> adir1982: לשיחות בשפה העברית ולגישה לקהילת המשתמשים העברית אנא הקלד:
[12:17] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[12:17] <UBUNTUJAY123> just put it in the usb and in the bios set it to boot from usb only
[12:17] <UBUNTUJAY123> and it will install
[12:17] <pkundu> misslecommander, then how to do it
[12:17] <misslecommander> pkundo: you using linux ?
[12:17] <pkundu> no xp
[12:18] <moDumass> but you want to boot into linux?
[12:18] <adir1982> rhanks
[12:18] <adir1982> thabks
[12:18] <pkundu> UBUNTUJAY123, how do i make my usb bootable
[12:18] <misslecommander> pkundo: you need a program like WinISO or MagicISO to do it. there are plenty of them, either way you need to make them in the original format
[12:18] <pkundu> i have MagicISO
[12:19] <misslecommander> pkundo: some motherboards allow you to boot USB in DOS mode
[12:19] <adir1982> what with kde 4 for ubuntu ? how i can install it in " apt-get"
[12:19] <misslecommander> pkundo:  your motherboard must support it though.
[12:19] <UBUNTUJAY123> misslecommander is right u cant boot it from iso format
[12:19] <Pici> !kde4 | adir1982
[12:19] <ubotu> adir1982: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[12:19] <kiista> Hello!
[12:19] <misslecommander> pkundo: get WinISO or MagicISO
[12:19] <kiista> LiveCD?
[12:19] <UBUNTUJAY123> i have to convert it to file format then save it to ur usb stick
[12:20] <kiista> Is there a LiveCD of the current Ubuntu version?
[12:20] <pkundu> ok Magic ISO i have
[12:20] <misslecommander> pkundo: make sure you can enable Boot from USB DOS in CMOS
[12:20] <pkundu> ok
[12:20] <praveen_> kiista: wat version u looking for
[12:20] <misslecommander> pkundo: open with MAgicISO and extraxt image to USB
[12:20] <BoltClock> erUSUL: i only see a screen to pick a screen resolution when i exec that command
[12:20] <pkundu> misslecommander, ok
[12:21] <misslecommander> pkundo: ISO is an image file, or think of it as a package deal like a ZIP file or RAR file
[12:21] <praveen_> kiista: live cd is available for all latest ubuntu versions including Gutsy Gibbon i.e 7.10
[12:21] <UBUNTUJAY123> boltclcok sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg do that and put in ur config and it be ok
[12:21] <pkundu> misslecommander, ok
[12:22] <misslecommander> pkundo: when you restart your computer, choose BOOT OPTIONS or BOOT SEQUENCE, and put USB first
[12:22] <praveen_> heh how do i change default color in gutsy gibbon ?
[12:22] <misslecommander> pkundo:  its different with alot of boards
[12:22] <BoltClock> UBUNTUJAY123: "Attempt to autodetect video hardware?"
[12:22] <kiista> praveen_: The live cd version is not mentioned on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download.
[12:22] <misslecommander> pkundo: there is also an option to choose BOOT USB DOS or something very similiar, anable that as well
[12:23] <UBUNTUJAY123> yea autodetect it
[12:23] <UBUNTUJAY123> bolt just get envy
[12:23] <UBUNTUJAY123> and get it over with
[12:23] <misslecommander> pkundo: they are making some pretty good size USB, i should get one too, just for that situation
[12:23] <BoltClock> UBUNTUJAY123: will envy really solve it that easily? :/
[12:23] <UBUNTUJAY123> yeah
[12:23] <kiista> praveen_: So I don't know from where I can get the live cd image.
[12:24] <praveen_> kiista: u will have to install ur Ubuntu from a live cd they provide
[12:24] <kiista> praveen_: Oh. Is it called "Desktop CD"?
[12:24] <misslecommander> pkundo: i cant be sure Linux will like you installing from USB, but its worth a try
[12:24] <Yanch0> I'm trying this command : cvs co mozilla/client.mk following the tutorial found here : http://webtools.mozilla.org/build/config.cgi but giving me : cvs checkout: No CVSROOT specified! Please use the `-d' option / cvs [checkout aborted]: or set the CVSROOT environment variable.
[12:24] <BoltClock> !envy
[12:24] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[12:24] <BoltClock> meh
[12:25] <UBUNTUJAY123> boltclock get it here ok http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[12:25] <misslecommander> !binarydriver
[12:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:25] <kiista> praveen_: The "Desktop CD" from http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/ubuntu-releases/7.10/ is also the live cd?
[12:26] <praveen_> kiista: yep
[12:26] <bono> ciao a tutti
[12:26] <Pici> !it | bono
[12:26] <ubotu> bono: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:26] <BoltClock> UBUNTUJAY123: installing... and it says "Please insert 'Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)' into the drive '/cdrom/'" its referring to the live cd?
[12:26] <Tilllinux> is there something like just write office for linux/ubuntu ?
[12:26] <kiista> praveen_: Thanks! :-)
[12:26] <bono> http://alexanderweb.altervista.org
[12:26] <UBUNTUJAY123> yes it is bolt
[12:26] <bono> ottimo sito con guide e programmi
[12:27] <UBUNTUJAY123> i dont see why gusty didnt include envy
[12:27] <BoltClock> lol
[12:27] <UBUNTUJAY123> envy is good if u use it right
[12:28] <parkin> !envy
[12:28] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[12:28] <Pici> !wfm | ubotu
[12:28] <ubotu> ubotu: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[12:28] <Pici> UBUNTUJAY123: see above ^
[12:28] <int[w]> hello
[12:28] <BoltClock> lol
[12:28] <int[w]> please could somebody tell me what i need to edit to put --log=/path/to/log in mysql ?
[12:28] <UBUNTUJAY123> yeah i seen above
[12:29] <BoltClock> UBUNTUJAY123: installed
[12:29] <Jay-Oh-En> Pici, you told ubotu not to use works for me lol
[12:29] <UBUNTUJAY123> good
[12:29] <UBUNTUJAY123> lmao
[12:30] <ZionPsyfer> int[w]: /etc/mysql/my.cnf should be what you're looking for.
[12:30] <int[w]> thank you
[12:30] <int[w]> i will try that too
[12:30] <UBUNTUJAY123> this is what i live by if it work use it if it dont u know not ot use it agin
[12:30] <ZionPsyfer> =)
[12:30] <TheLynx> what word processor do you recommend för gnome? I use openoffice writer, but find it a bit slow. is abiword better for gnome or does it lack many features?
[12:30] <mavi-> abiword is ok
[12:31] <mavi-> it have most stuff
[12:31] <UBUNTUJAY123> and i thought ubuntu is for people to try to make better and if stuff works and u say not to use it how is any thing going to get better
[12:31] <TheLynx> mavi: and way faster? what about the spreadsheat in gnome office?
[12:31] <shredder> if you are using Java apps. Don't apply the latest X update. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671020&highlight=eclipse
[12:32] <Pici> UBUNTUJAY123: Envy is not supported or reccomended here. End of conversation.
[12:32] <UBUNTUJAY123> i would install java from the java site
[12:32] <Tilllinux> shredder: ... couldn't you say that earlier :D
[12:32] <shredder> the thread has instructions how to downgrade. I just tested it myself, so I'm up and running again!
[12:33] <BoltClock> UBUNTUJAY123: what do i do now that envy is installed?
[12:33] <int[w]> ZionPsyfer, could you please be more specific where exactly in conf ? (i usualy use fc .. and there i always put it in /etc/init.d/mysql ) ... here i just can't figure it out :(
[12:33] <orochi_> Hmm...I've already applied that update :/ Java apps are still working though
[12:33] <UBUNTUJAY123> go to envy and pick ur drive
[12:33] <shredder> orochi_: then don't restart X. Then it will stop working.
[12:34] <Pici> BoltClock: Envy is explicitly not supported here.
[12:34] <Tilllinux> BoltClock: best to do is leave envy alone ;) (though I have to admit I've been using it some time ago, and it even did work with the upgrade from feisty to gutsy)
[12:34] <Pici> BoltClock: It has been known to break systems on upgrade, and as such we do not support it.
[12:34] <orochi_> shredder: Well that's great to know :P Hopefully that will be fixed quickly...although for me Java apps have acted funny under 7.10 anyway, choppy audio
[12:35] <ZionPsyfer> int[w]: no problem, in the /etc/mysql/my.cnf file there is a line that says '#log            = /var/log/mysql/mysql.log'  uncommenting that *should*  set mysql to log to that file.
[12:35] <shredder> aha never used audio in any of my java apps in 7.10 actually.
[12:35] <NigeyUK> m33p
[12:36] <int[w]> found it
[12:36] <int[w]> thank you
[12:36] <orochi_> shredder: Yeah, it could just be my crappy motherboard but it worked in the last release, so...who knows :< I was writing a little game in Java for a while but moved to Python because of the audio weirdness
[12:36] <BoltClock> is an nvidia GF7100 card known to be incompatible in some way with ubuntu?
[12:37] <JAY123> back
[12:37] <aleeex> I got an AMD 64 and I have prob installing ubuntu 7.10, it stacks in formating at 5%.. guess something wrong wit sata drives, any ideas?
[12:37] <JAY123> Pici fuck u
[12:38] <ZionPsyfer> int[w]: Try that out and see if it does what you'd like.  If not I'll try to help ya you as much as I can.
[12:38] <Ahti> !language
[12:38] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[12:38] <BoltClock> lol
[12:38] <bullgard4> What is the 'kernel command line'? I couldn't find a definition yet.
[12:39] <ikonia> Pici: dissapointly slow, your record will never be beat at this rate
[12:39] <aleeex> I got an AMD 64 and I have prob installing ubuntu 7.10, it stacks in formating at 5%.. guess something wrong wit sata drives, any ideas?
[12:39] <ikonia> aleeex: what sata chipset is it ?
[12:40] <aleeex> ikonia u mean sata II ?
[12:40] <int[w]> ZionPsyfer, it's not working
[12:40] <int[w]> please excuse my 5 minutes .. i really have to eat
[12:40] <ikonia> aleeex: no, what chipset is it
[12:40] <ikonia> aleeex: as in nforce6 for example, or VIA
[12:41] <Ahti> Pici: Are the ops of this channel not allowed to (in other than extreme cases) to ban people permanently?
[12:41] <praveen_> hw do i change the orange background wen gnome loads in Gutsy Gibbon ?
[12:41] <yoni_ub> Hello, I'm looking for help in order to configure an dns server on a ubuntu linux someone can help me ?
[12:41] <ikonia> Ahti: sure they are
[12:41] <ZionPsyfer> int[w]: No worries. Guess I should start at the beginning.  What all are you trying to log?
[12:41] <Ahti> ikonia: You'd think so O.o
[12:42] <ikonia> Ahti: they do, there are a few people on perm bans
[12:42] <Pici> Ahti: Its not really ontopic, but indefinite bans are rare. We usually drop them at about a month or so if no one shows up to contest them.
[12:42] <aleeex> ikonia I got a gigabyte GA-MA69VM-s2, helps this?
[12:42] <Ahti> I see
[12:42] <ikonia> livekcats: I'll look up
[12:42] <ikonia> oosp
[12:42] <ikonia> aleeex: I'll look it up
[12:43] <BoltClock> Pici: could you suggest an alternative but supported solution than envy? since anyway it isnt working for me >.>
[12:43] <aleeex> ikonia thanx, i am 2 days stacked
[12:43] <DOOM_NX> UT3 runs on Ubuntu, right?
[12:43] <Pici> BoltClock: I would suggest using the restricted drivers manager. System>Administration>Restricted Drivers Manager.
[12:43] <Sal> hello
[12:43] <yoni_ub> someone has already configure a dns server in order to host a domain name ?
[12:44] <Sal> from what linux does ubuntu come from?
[12:44] <Ahti> DOOM_NX: If there's an installer on the CD/DVD like there was in UT2003
[12:44] <DOOM_NX> debian
[12:44] <ikonia> aleeex: give me a few minutes
[12:44] <DOOM_NX> Ahti, thank u
[12:44] <ikonia> yoni_ub: many times
[12:44] <Ahti> DOOM_NX: If it's CDs, it's on the LAST CD.
[12:44] <aleeex> ikonia ok
[12:45] <NigeyUK> DOOM_NX, wrong, there is no workin gut3 for linux yet, they did not finish the OGL renderer in time for the retail release
[12:45] <yoni_ub> ikonia: can you help to configure mine, i follow a lot of tutorial but it doesn't work
[12:45] <DOOM_NX> oh i see
[12:45] <BoltClock> Pici: o.o the driver... is disabled! just now when it was disabled, gutsy displayed in normal gfx, not low gfx mode
[12:45] <BoltClock> right now its disabled and its in low gfx mode -_-
[12:45] <DOOM_NX> cause i was able to play UT2004 on linux
[12:45] <NigeyUK> it is being worked on mind, just dont expect it in a hurry
[12:45] <ikonia> yoni_ub:  you know you need "two" dns servers to host an IP  ?
[12:45] <ikonia> host a domain sorry
[12:45] <Pici> BoltClock: So... enable it?
[12:45] <NigeyUK> yer, ut2k4 ran fine, they just slow with ut3 :(
[12:46] <yoni_ub> my tld point on my server, on my server dig command seem to give good result but my tld doesn't ping
[12:46] <BoltClock> will restart pc now
[12:46] <yoni_ub> Yeah i know i have two
[12:46] <ikonia> yoni_ub: ok - you may get better help in #bind as setting up dns servers is really not ubuntu's issue
[12:46] <yoni_ub> ikonia: the second one, is provide by the company i took the server
[12:46] <yoni_ub> that's right
[12:46] <abdou1> what
[12:47] <Agent_bob> if i set etc/ssh/sshd_conf  "UsePrivilegeSeparation no"  sshd will start.  but that of course is a security hole but if i set it to "UsePrivilegeSeparation yes"  then i get the error massage "Privilege separation user sshd does not exist"   anyone know why?  or how to fix it?
[12:47] <ikonia> Agent_bob: you need a unix account called sshd
[12:47] <ikonia> Agent_bob: if you install sshd via ubuntu it gets created for you on its own
[12:47] <ikonia> Agent_bob: are you using ubuntu ? did you install the openssh-server package from the repos ?
[12:48] <Agent_bob> ikonia  i never had one before   but i'll try that.
[12:48] <Agent_bob> ikonia dapper drake minimal install
[12:48] <ikonia> Agent_bob: and you installed the open-sshserver package ?
[12:48] <Agent_bob> ssh pulls in openssh-client and openssh-server
[12:49] <ikonia> Agent_bob: and you've got no sshd user ?
[12:49] <Torago> Heyo, I wanted to know if there was a software for ubuntu that lets you select part of a song, extract it, and turn it into an MP3. I don't know what this process is called, maybe something-ripping?
[12:49] <Agent_bob> no never have had.   let me check on another box
[12:49] <BoltClock> Pici: still in low gfxmode
[12:50] <BoltClock> the only good thing i notice the driver does is stop all that flickering of the screen
[12:50] <Agent_bob> ikonia ah another box does have that account  sshd:x:114:65534::/var/run/sshd:/bin/false
[12:50] <Pici> BoltClock: Try changing your screen settings, it should be in System>Preferences> Somewhere (I dont have a graphical session to look at here)
[12:50] <Agent_bob> i'll add it and see what it does.
[12:50] <ikonia> Agent_bob: exceptionally odd
[12:50] <Agent_bob> thanks.
[12:51] <ikonia> Agent_bob: make sure you follow the home dir and /bin/false shell
[12:51] <BoltClock> preferences>screen resolution?
[12:51] <Agent_bob> i'll have to just edit the /etc/passwd file
[12:51] <BoltClock> or administration>screens and graphics?
[12:51] <Agent_bob> i did say minimal install
[12:51] <ikonia> Agent_bob: nah, useradd
[12:52] <Agent_bob> command not found
[12:52] <ikonia> Agent_bob: hang on
[12:52] <ro7761> Agent_bob: adduser
[12:52] <Agent_bob> command not found
[12:52] <Agent_bob> i'll edit the file.
[12:52] <dpn`> i just updated some stuff, and now eclipse won't run
[12:52] <dpn`> is there a log of package i just installed somewhere?
[12:52] <aleeex> ikonia anythin?
[12:52] <dpn`> packages*
[12:52] <ikonia> Agent_bob: do'nt add the file
[12:52] <BoltClock> Pici: preferences>screen resolution? or administration>screens and graphics? hopefully you can recall
[12:52] <Pici> dpn`: /var/log/dpkg.log
[12:52] <ikonia> aleeex: not much info on it
[12:53] <int[w]> ZionPsyfer, i'm trying to log the querys send to mysql
[12:53] <dpn`> Pici: ta
[12:53] <ikonia> Agent_bob: follow these commands
[12:53] <Pici> BoltClock: Preferences>Screen Resolution iirc.
[12:53] <praveen_> hw do i change splash settings in gnome ?
[12:53]  * Agent_bob didn't say add.  i said edit.
[12:53] <ikonia> Agent_bob: "sudo groupadd -g 65534 nogroup
[12:53] <ikonia> Agent_bob: add and edit are the same thing if you are missing an account
[12:53] <dpn`> 2008-01-18 19:56:24 status installed xserver-xorg-core 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1
[12:53] <dpn`> i bet that's the prolem
[12:53] <aleeex> ikonia thanx anyway
[12:53] <dpn`> :(
[12:53] <Agent_bob> i'll just edit /etc/passwd  thanks for the info.
[12:53] <ikonia> Agent_bob: it won't work
[12:53] <BoltClock> 800 x 600 and 640 x 480 only
[12:54] <Agent_bob> sure it will.
[12:54] <BoltClock> Pici: i dont think a -low- gfx mode would accept any higher than those
[12:54] <ikonia> Agent_bob: what group are you going to put it in
[12:54] <BoltClock> my monitor is a 22" widescreen
[12:55] <x1800x> Does someone know where i can look for an explain to use ubuntu from a usb flash drve?
[12:55] <Pici> BoltClock: Try using `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh`
[12:55] <BoltClock> Pici: i tried that an hour or so ago, does not work
[12:56] <Pici> !usb | x1800x
[12:56] <ikonia> Agent_bob: be sure to put it in the correct group, and lock the password
[12:56] <ubotu> x1800x: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[12:56] <Pici> BoltClock: But now you have the correct drivers installed.
[12:56] <x1800x> THX!
[12:56] <Agent_bob> ikonia it works thanks.
[12:56] <ZionPsyfer> int[w]: All of them?  Or just slow and errors?
[12:56] <BoltClock> i also had the same drivers installed when i tried that just now
[12:56] <int[w]> uhm ... if i do select * from table ... i want to see that
[12:56] <BoltClock> Pici: never mind, ill give it another go
[12:56] <int[w]> helps me a lot in seeing what querys are send
[12:57] <Jay-Oh-En> !java
[12:57] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[12:58] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i install java 1.5
[12:58] <BoltClock> Pici: the screen allowed me to pick a resolution so i did, now restart?
[12:58] <Pici> BoltClock: Yessir.
[12:58] <Pici> BoltClock: actually.. wait
[12:58] <ZionPsyfer> int[w]: in my.cnf make sure that 'log             = /var/log/mysql/mysql.log' is uncommented.  You need to restart mysql after saving btw.  My queries show up in the /var/log/mysql/mysql.log file.
[12:58] <Pici> BoltClock: What video card do you have?
[12:58] <BoltClock> Pici: video card?
[12:59] <Pici> BoltClock: ati/nvida.?
[12:59] <neopsyche> hi, Im trying to install wifi usb adapter.. can someone help with installation and what software to use to detect wifi networks in my neighbourhood?
[12:59] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i install java 1.5
[12:59] <int[w]> so do mine now :|
[12:59] <int[w]> thank you ZionPsyfer
[12:59] <int[w]> i was looging at /var/log/mysql.log
[12:59] <dpn`> hmm latest X update seems to have crippled a few apps. i can't run a SWT (eclipse) or WX (SPE) app
[12:59] <ZionPsyfer> int[w]: nice! glad you got it working. =)
[12:59] <BoltClock> Pici: graphics or video card? or are they the same?
[13:00] <Pici> BoltClock: Same thing.
[13:00] <BoltClock> Pici: nvidia geforce7100 (onboard)
[13:00] <int[w]> guess i should learn to read something till the end :">
[13:00] <Pici> BoltClock: Okay, go ahead and reboot. (ATI cards have an extra step)
[13:00] <dpn`> it is possible to revert a package install?
[13:01] <ZionPsyfer> int[w]: No, their documentation simply sucks on things like that.  I've beat my head for a good length of time on some of their stuff. ;)
[13:01] <DRebellion> !wifi | neopsyche
[13:01] <ubotu> neopsyche: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[13:01] <int[w]> :) indeed .. at some things it's bad
[13:02] <_mug> hey
[13:02] <Ciusbet> fuck yeah!
[13:02] <_mug> ive got a problem starting azureus
[13:02] <_mug> after clicking the icon nothin happens
[13:02] <petepete> _max_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671020
[13:03] <_mug> worked fine a few hours ago
[13:03] <petepete> _mug, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671020
[13:03] <DRebellion> !language | Ciusbet
[13:03] <ubotu> Ciusbet: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[13:03] <BoltClock> Pici: does not work
[13:03] <Ciusbet> haha ok, i'll try to use correct words sorry
[13:04] <_mug> petepete: thx.
[13:05] <BoltClock> Pici: still low gfx mode ><
[13:05] <zackie> how can i find my webcam? while pluged in the USB???[][][
[13:06] <misslecommander> Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to locate the factory. Killing bonobo-activation-server and restarting Nautilus may help fix the problem.
[13:06] <misslecommander> anyone ?
[13:06] <misslecommander> SMB ?
[13:06] <pkundu> misslecommander, i have extracted the ubuntu live cd iso to my usb stick. but my system dont boot from it
[13:06] <ikonia> misslecommander: locate the factor ?
[13:06] <ikonia> pkundu: that won't work
[13:07] <ikonia> misslecommander: the factory ?
[13:07] <pkundu> misslecommander, do i need to do anything to make the usb stick bootable
[13:07] <misslecommander> pkundu: does your motherboard allow for boot from USB device ?
[13:07] <DRebellion> !webcam | zackie
[13:07] <ubotu> zackie: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[13:07] <misslecommander> pkundu: in bios/cmos when you first power up your computer, in the settings some boards have option to boot USB
[13:07] <OshaMaHUe> i am trying to install grub. i followed the instructions. i reboot my computer . at the beggining it stuck at the grub console. i couldnt install ubuntu and im tryg to get to windows because i need to rip another ubuntu cd. do anyone know how to solve this
[13:07] <pkundu> misslecommander, yes it does
[13:08] <ikonia> OshaMaHUe: what do you see on the screen in front of you
[13:08] <misslecommander> pkundu: if you know how to reverse anything you do in there, put USB first
[13:08] <ikonia> pkundu: you can't just copy the cd to the usb drive and hit boot
[13:08] <pkundu> misslecommander, i have change the boot option in bios too
[13:08] <jetscreamer> stick a dos floppy in and run fdisk /mbr
[13:08] <OshaMaHUe> grub>
[13:08] <jetscreamer> or w98 cd
[13:08] <misslecommander> pkundu: when it tells you to remove CD you remove USB before post
[13:08] <ikonia> OshaMaHUe: ok, jetscreamer has a stunning idea, or we can fix this in more detail,
[13:09] <int[w]> by any chance someone uses ZDE ?
[13:09] <ikonia> pkundu: that won't work
[13:09] <Pici> BoltClock: You may want to check on the forums for people with that graphics card.  It should be working now, but *shrug*
[13:09] <ikonia> !boot
[13:09] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[13:09] <OshaMaHUe> i dont have a floppy drive
[13:09] <BoltClock> Pici: meh, alright
[13:09] <OshaMaHUe> or win 98 cd
[13:09] <mutable> hello, how can i discover windows shares from console? just tell me the tool name please (and please do not tell me samba, i know that it is essential)
[13:09] <bullgard4> What is the 'kernel command line'? I couldn't find a definition yet.
[13:09] <ikonia> OshaMaHUe: you don't need a floppy drive, boot of a XP/Vista cd
[13:09] <misslecommander> pkundu: i dont know it will install with USB, i cant be sure Linux will let you
[13:09] <ikonia> bullgard4: there isn't one
[13:10] <ikonia> misslecommander: your telling someone wrong info
[13:10] <misslecommander> pkundu: just know how to reverse anythign you do in CMOS
[13:10] <bullgard4> ikonia: What is the reason for such a situation?
[13:10] <Tilllinux> Is there something similar to JustWrite Office for ubuntu?
[13:10] <jetscreamer> ok how about w2k or xp cd
[13:10] <Lockly_Hair> I downloaded Ubuntu 7.10 desktop version, is it possible to just test it by putting it in on a cd on startup without wiping my current OS (XP) and files
[13:10] <ikonia> bullgard4: there is no such thing as a kernel command line
[13:10] <ZionPsyfer> mutable:  try 'smbclient -L SERVERNAME'  or 'smbclient -L IPADDRESS'
[13:10] <jetscreamer> boot recovery console run fixmbr
[13:10] <ikonia> bullgard4: you can pass kernel boot options/arugments if you want, is that what you mean
[13:10] <misslecommander> ikonia: motherboards can boot USB, i dont know you can install Linux with them, as i alredy stated
[13:10] <ikonia> misslecommander: yes you can, but you don't just copy the cd to a usb drive
[13:11] <_mug> petepete: is the xorg-server-update the for http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-January/031918.html? then maybe i better wait for another update..
[13:11] <jetscreamer> yes you can install linux on a usb drive
[13:11] <Tilllinux> Lockly_Hair: of course. Even the installation won't wipe your xp partition
[13:11] <bullgard4> ikonia: You are wrong. You can google for 'kernel command line', and you will find very many hits.
[13:11] <jetscreamer> probably a camera
[13:11] <misslecommander> ikonia: i am sure you didnt see our conversatin before
[13:11] <Lockly_Hair> ty
[13:11] <pkundu> but my laptop cd/dvd is broken, how can i install ubuntu in it then
[13:11] <jetscreamer> pkundu: goodbye-windows.com
[13:11] <ikonia> bullgard4: no I'm not
[13:11] <Tilllinux> pkundu: wubi
[13:11] <ikonia> bullgard4: READ the hits that say "kernel command line"
[13:11] <misslecommander> ikonia: his CDrom is broken, he asked me suggestion. you have better ?
[13:11] <Agent_bob> bullgard4 "kernel command line" ???   cat /proc/cmdline   ?
[13:11] <jetscreamer> or that
[13:12] <mutable> ZionPsyfer: i meant to discover all shares on LAN, something similar to "neighborhood" in win or "network" in nautilus
[13:12] <ikonia> misslecommander: no - booting from usb is fine, but you don't just copy a CD to the usb pen drive to boot it
[13:12] <ljsmithx> i was unable to start VLC so i went to the terminal and typed "vlc" and i go this.. http://pastebin.com/m37fdcf58
[13:12] <misslecommander> ikonia: i alreeady told him, i couldnt say it would work
[13:12] <ljsmithx> i also uninstalled then reinstalled and same error
[13:12] <misslecommander> ikonia: he had ISO and used MagicISO
[13:12] <ikonia> Tilllinux: we don't recommend wubi as it's not an ubuntu product
[13:12] <ikonia> misslecommander: that won't work
[13:12] <bullgard4> ikonia: I am not sure that a kernel command line is defined as a variable that accespts kernel boot options.
[13:13] <ikonia> bullgard4: it is
[13:13] <ljsmithx> :(
[13:13] <misslecommander> ikonia: then you can take it over, i have my own problems
[13:13] <ikonia> bullgard4: the kernel command line is what people are calling the boot options you can pass to the kernel
[13:13] <misslecommander> anyone know why i get this message
[13:13] <bullgard4> Agent_bob: I was considering that but could not find a proof for that.
[13:13] <DRebellion> !enter
[13:13] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[13:13] <ZionPsyfer> mutable: Linneighborhood might be the ticket then.  I'm not sure how (or if) smbclient can list all shares on a network.  It's a decent gui app.
[13:13] <misslecommander> Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to locate the factory. Killing bonobo-activation-server and restarting Nautilus may help fix the problem.
[13:13] <ikonia> misslecommander: factory  ?
[13:13] <mutable> ZionPsyfer: ok, thanks for time
[13:14] <pkundu> Tilllinux, my windows is also not booting in my laptop
[13:14] <ljsmithx> i get that sometimes
[13:14] <ikonia> what is "locate the factory" is that the wording in the error
[13:14] <misslecommander> i dotn know Linux runs Samba shares
[13:14] <misslecommander> if they do i dont need them
[13:14] <Agent_bob> bullgard4 i can only assume that "kernel command line" is a referance to the arguments passed to the kernel at boot time.
[13:14] <ljsmithx> ggggggg is getting annoying!!!
[13:14] <pkundu> only option i have is install from USB stick
[13:14] <ZionPsyfer> mutable: np, hopefully that helped.
[13:14] <bullgard4> ikonia: I hear your statement. I am going to prove it. --  Thank you for your comments, anyway.
[13:14] <ljsmithx> i was unable to start VLC so i went to the terminal and typed "vlc" and i go this.. http://pastebin.com/m37fdcf58
[13:14] <ljsmithx> :D
[13:14] <ikonia> bullgard4: there is nothing to prove
[13:14] <misslecommander> pkundu: it was a mere suggestion, it cant hurt to try. at most it wont work, you are out nothing
[13:15] <bullgard4> Agent_bob: Your assumption is roughly the same as ikonia's.
[13:15] <marko-_-> ljsmithx, This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[13:15] <Agent_bob> bullgard4 ikonia may not always be right,  but he aint never wrong     :)))
[13:15] <ljsmithx> how do i fic it marko-_-??
[13:15] <ikonia> Agent_bob: thats nonsense
[13:15] <ljsmithx> fix*
[13:15] <bullgard4> ikonia: Why is there nothing to prove? In what respect?
[13:16] <marko-_-> ljsmithx, ...
[13:16] <marko-_->    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[13:16] <marko-_-> it says everything
[13:16] <ljsmithx> ho
[13:16] <marko-_-> try it.
[13:16] <ljsmithx> im not a developer though
[13:16] <pkundu> :(
[13:16] <ljsmithx> will i have to code it or something?
[13:16] <ikonia> bullgard4: 1.) there is no kernel "command line" the options people are refering to in the links you say in google are the boot parameters passed through grub that people are calling a command line. That is not the correct name, but that is what they are calling it in the links you reference
[13:16] <marko-_-> no.
[13:16] <misslecommander> pkundu: do you have Linux already installed and you are trying to re-install or recover a bad install ?
[13:16] <marko-_-> ljsmithx, try sudo vlc --sync
[13:17] <ljsmithx> ok.. wish me luck :)
[13:17] <Tilllinux> ikonia: okay, but he asked for a way to install ubuntu without cd... that's one ;D
[13:17] <ikonia> Tilllinux: not one we recommend (for future reference)
[13:17] <Trae> I've never had problems with xchat before..... but now when it starts up it's taking about 30 seconds for each channel I have to load.  (multiply that times about 15 channels)
[13:17] <ljsmithx> vlc: unknown option or missing mandatory argument `--sync'
[13:17] <ljsmithx> :(
[13:18] <ikonia> Trae: that can be the server being slow
[13:18] <ikonia> Trae: slow offering information like user lists etc
[13:18] <Trae> ikonia: it's not a server issue... I launch konversation to the same server with no problem
[13:18] <Trae> and it launches mega quick
[13:18] <marko-_-> ljsmithx, i don't know... sorry.
[13:18] <ljsmithx> thats ok
[13:18] <ikonia> Trae: so it's client specific, interesting
[13:18] <bullgard4> ikonia: I have got the feeling that you are right with your last statement, and I will make this to my base assumption. If I will encounter contradictions to that, I will do further resarch. --  Thank you very much.
[13:19] <wers> openoffice.org 2.3's spellchecker doesnt work at all
[13:19] <Trae> ikonia: nod
[13:19] <wers> what do I do with it?
[13:19] <Trae> ikonia: sec I'm going to nuke my configs
[13:19] <ikonia> Trae: client reverse dns lookups perhaps ?
[13:19] <Trae> brb
[13:19] <IdleOne> wers: launchpad.net and report a bug
[13:19] <alison> new ubuntu updates!
[13:20] <wers> IdleOne, mine is a fresh install with fresh config files
[13:20]  * alison loves it when it's fresh!
[13:20] <ikonia> !offtopic | alison
[13:20] <ubotu> alison: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:20] <IdleOne> wers: have you ran sudo apt-get update
[13:20] <alison> how do i apply ubuntu themes?
[13:20] <misslecommander> oh i see whats happening lol
[13:21] <IdleOne> wers: and sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:21] <Trae> hah
[13:21] <ikonia> alison: just drag them into the theme manager
[13:21] <wers> IdleOne, did that
[13:21] <Trae> ok that's freakin' bizzare
[13:21] <Trae> I removed my prefs
[13:21] <alison> ikonia: really it's that easy?
[13:21] <Trae> and blam
[13:21] <IdleOne> wers: then report a bug
[13:21] <Trae> no problem
[13:21] <ikonia> alison: it certainly is
[13:21] <alison> wow
[13:21] <ikonia> Trae: it will be something like that client has reverse lookups turned up
[13:21] <ikonia> Trae: as an easy example
[13:21] <OshaMaHUe> i am trying to install grub. i followed the instructions. i reboot my computer . at the beggining it stuck at the grub console. i couldnt install ubuntu and im tryg to get to windows because i need to rip another ubuntu cd. do anyone know how to solve this. and fdisk doesnt work at cmd of the vista cd
[13:21] <alison> i got this OSX theme i want to add to ubuntu :) hope it works
[13:21] <ikonia> OshaMaHUe: boot from a windows cd
[13:22] <Trae> ikonia, :/  ok... well at least it's fixed lol
[13:22] <Trae> ikonia, tx mate
[13:22] <ikonia> Trae: that's just an easy example, not saying that WAS the problem
[13:22] <ikonia> Trae: but that sort of thing is not uncommon
[13:22] <OshaMaHUe> ikonia: should i reinstall windows?
[13:23] <OshaMaHUe> or what should i do
[13:23] <ZionPsyfer> OshaMaHUe: You need to boot the vista cd to the recovery console, then run 'Bootrec /fixboot'  followed  by 'Bootrec /fixmbr'
[13:23] <ikonia> OshaMaHUe: no, people mentioned before, boot from a windows cd and use the "fixboot" or "fixbmr" option from the recovery console
[13:23] <oblio2> hi guys can u suggest something to mod ubuntu tnx [ just a bit bored about my default dsktop ]
[13:23] <alison> hey Im trying to watch a youtube video, but it's really slow on ubuntu, why?
[13:23] <ikonia> alison: flash player not a compatible ? network card driver not as good so slower speed
[13:23] <ggggggg>  /py console
[13:23] <samad909> alison: that is not ubuntu's fault, its your isp
[13:23] <ikonia> alison: just random suggestions
[13:24] <ZionPsyfer> oblio2: Have you checked out http://gnome-look.org ?
[13:24] <ikonia> samad909: it can be ubuntu/linux's fault
[13:24] <alison> ikonia: i belive flash is compatible because its working
[13:24] <samad909> ikonia: alright
[13:24] <ikonia> alison: not "as" compatible that should have read
[13:24] <alison> it didnt work 2 days ago, but for some reason it's workin fine
[13:24] <alison> oh
[13:24] <samad909> ikonia: flash non-free or gnash, which is better?
[13:24] <ikonia> alison: you probably have the flash player version 10 from adobes download site, there have been issues logged against it
[13:24] <oblio2> tnx ZIon ... ^ ^
[13:25] <ikonia> samad909: flash non-free is more developed, gnash will hopefully be a better long term solution
[13:25] <OshaMaHUe> thanks that worked
[13:25] <alison> im not sure which version of flash i have, how can i check?
[13:25] <samad909> ikonia: for current youtube vieweing and stuff flash non-free is better then?
[13:25] <pkundu> misslecommander, my total laptop is broken. I want to install a fresh
[13:25] <pkundu> samad909, see below
[13:25] <ZionPsyfer> OshaMaHUe: Nice. =)
[13:25] <_nmap> gmgergk[erokg[we
[13:25] <pkundu> !brokenflash
[13:25] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[13:26] <samad909> aliso: about:plugins in firefox
[13:26] <ZionPsyfer> Np oblio2.  Enjoy. =)
[13:26] <samad909> pkundu: i have got the fix, just want to know which is good for youtube as such sites
[13:26] <alison> ikonia: which flash player works the best on ubuntu?
[13:26] <misslecommander> pkundu: i am no Linux pro, but i do know hardware. ask ikonia, he seems to know
[13:26] <Omegacenti> Big, huge problem with my harddrive.
[13:27] <misslecommander> pkundu: you have 2 or more computers ?
[13:27] <Omegacenti> I am not sure, but I think either my HD, or my controller, of my motherboard crashed.
[13:27] <ikonia> alison: thats a debatable question, flash-9 was the best I've seen but thats no longer available, flash-10 seems the best option to me at the moment
[13:27] <Omegacenti> I have been looking everywhere on google, supoprt forums, anything to figure out what went bad. :(
[13:27] <Agent_bob> is there a known issue with making /bin/bash a symlink or script ?     it there a reason it wont work ?
[13:27] <alison> but didn't you say there is a know bug about it?
[13:28] <crush_groove> !flash
[13:28] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[13:28] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[13:28] <alison> adobe changed the file extention or something?
[13:28] <alison> so flash was broken...
[13:28] <ikonia> Agent_bob: symlink to what
[13:28] <samad909> ikonia: isnt there a fix available as launchpad for flash-9?
[13:28] <ikonia> alison: different version
[13:28] <ikonia> samad909: the fix is to manually download flash-10
[13:28] <Agent_bob> ikonia a shell of course
[13:28] <ikonia> samad909: as far as I'm aware
[13:28] <ikonia> Agent_bob: which one though
[13:28] <Agent_bob> dash or tcsh or bash   pick one
[13:28] <ikonia> Agent_bob: the shell it's linked to will reflect the potential risk of doing it
[13:29] <rik> Need help stealthing port 80 using iptables with no GUI interface. Anyone know the specifics on how the appropriate rule should be written?
[13:29] <ikonia> Agent_bob: well, linking bash to bash is pointless as thats the same thing, dash is minimal risk tcsh very different shell so not a good call
[13:29] <ikonia> rik: stealthing
[13:29] <ikonia> ?
[13:29] <samad909> ikonia: i saw a file saying flash9 and downloaded it, will install in a little or should i search adobe for flash10 for ubuntu?
[13:29] <Agent_bob> ikonia i tried moving /bin/bash and pointing to it with a link but it refuses to login that way
[13:29] <Omegacenti> I am not sure, but I think either my HD, or my controller, of my motherboard crashed. Need some help in troubleshooting to find out what went wrong.
[13:29] <ikonia> Agent_bob: your moving /bin/bash ?
[13:30] <ikonia> samad909: I wouldn't trust a flash-9 package that didn't come from adobe
[13:30] <Ar-ras> nk
[13:30] <Ar-ras> hi
[13:30] <ikonia> Agent_bob: can you execute the symlink manually ?
[13:30] <Agent_bob> ikonia yes
[13:30] <samad909> ikonia: adobe's site has the flash9 package for download on adobe/go/getflash
[13:30] <Ar-ras> I try to boot ubuntu from pxe
[13:30] <rik> ikonia: Testing ports using  https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2
[13:30] <ikonia> samad909: oog really, good find
[13:30] <Ar-ras> but it doesnt work
[13:31] <ikonia> samad909: although that maybe the same thing as what people (me) was refering to as "flash-10"
[13:31] <Ar-ras> and i dont wanna use netboot like in the wikie, because i wanna use it like the cd image
[13:31] <samad909> ikonia: alright it says Version: 9,0,115,0
[13:31] <Omegacenti> I am not sure, but I think either my HD, or my controller, of my motherboard crashed. Need some help in troubleshooting to find out what went wrong.
[13:31] <Agent_bob> ikonia it seems to be pam related.  i'll look into that.
[13:31] <ikonia> Agent_bob: so you've linked to it and you can do "/bin/bash" no problem, but scripts can't use #!/bin/bash ?
[13:31] <IdleOne> rik: port 80 is for web why do you want to "stealth" it?
[13:31] <ikonia> samad909: thats the borked version
[13:31] <Ar-ras> does somebody has an idea?
[13:31] <ikonia> samad909: thats what I was refering to as flash 10  (wrongly)
[13:32] <ikonia> Ar-ras: idea on what ?
[13:32] <samad909> ikonia: so this works? or broken?
[13:32] <ikonia> samad909: works, but not as good as the previous version (in my opinion)
[13:32] <Ar-ras> pxe booting ubuntu
[13:32] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: What symptoms are you seeing?
[13:32] <ikonia> Ar-ras: the wiki has a guide on it
[13:32] <samad909> ikonia: just installed ubuntu and got the net working after 8 hours so i guess i will have to go with it
[13:32] <_nmap> how can i install php pear in ubuntu?
[13:32] <jarle> There seems to be a problem after upgrading to latest version of Xorg. At least azureus is not working: "The program 'SWT' received an X Window System error." Anybody solved this yet?
[13:32] <asc> I need a 'run program' applet for the xfce panel. Does anybody know of one?
[13:33] <Ar-ras> ikonia give url please
[13:33] <IdleOne> asc: #zubuntu
[13:33] <ikonia> Ar-ras: you have it, you said you where reading it
[13:33] <IdleOne> asc: #xubuntu
[13:33] <IdleOne> sorry
[13:33] <ZionPsyfer> _nmap: package is 'php-pear'
[13:33] <Ar-ras> and please not the netboot, cause it wants to install ubuntu
[13:33] <Ar-ras> but i want to use it as live
[13:33] <ikonia> Ar-ras: netboot the cdimage rather than the netboot image
[13:33] <asc> IdleOne: Hm, sure. I'm not actually using the rest of Xfco though.
[13:34] <alinux-lb22> dansguardian slows down my browsing alot when I use it ..I have searched a lot it seems a common issue with no solution ..anyone had this issue before ?
[13:34] <rik> IdleOne: It appears stealthed when connected to my router, but if the router is removed from the picture it shows open to attack.
[13:34] <Ar-ras> ikonia i did but it seems that i make something wrong :(
[13:34] <W_McL> jarle, http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/146069/
[13:34] <Ar-ras> wait a moment
[13:34] <ikonia> Agent_bob: excellent find with pam, just found a few urls that show that too
[13:34] <ikonia> Agent_bob: pam_security appears to be the common module
[13:34] <W_McL> jarle, sorry, wrong link. #post4158788
[13:35] <W_McL> jarle, sorry, now it's the right one. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4158788
[13:35] <juan_antonio> hi
[13:35] <Agent_bob> yep.   ok i'm out now. ikonia thanks again for the input.   and glad to see someone that is willing to help and not just say rtfm, even though it does get tempting.  ;/
[13:36] <IdleOne> rik:  not sure what to tell you. guess look at port forwarding
[13:36] <Agent_bob> ikonia ^
[13:36] <ikonia> Agent_bob: it looks like a well hidden module
[13:36] <ikonia> dig deep
[13:36] <ikonia> Agent_bob: your welcome
[13:36] <barnbarn> I have a nvidia chipset card and it kernel panics on boot (either liveCD or once installed (using the onboard graphics card), I've looked at the nvidia pages and this only mentions installing the binary drivers, well it doesn't get far enough to even let me do that, anyone have any ideas please?
[13:36] <Omegacenti> ZionPsyfer, I am hearing a low buzz and then a shorter high buzz from the harddrive, last night I created the workaround for hdd unload/load cycles as directed by launchpad seeing that I was getting 80+ loads/unloads on idle per minute on my SMART functions.
[13:36] <porkpie> ikonia:hi
[13:37] <juan_antonio> how to install .emerald themes?
[13:37] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: does SMART report anything odd?
[13:37] <ndee> hi there, I installed eclipse but it crashes on me, is eclipse broken at the moment?
[13:37] <JCDG> hello...
[13:37] <JCDG> is anyone there??
[13:37] <rik> IdleOne: That's what we have been doing with little success. Have you tried running the test at the grc site to see if you show all service ports stealthed?
[13:37] <Omegacenti> ZionPsyfer I can't even access S.M.A.R.T because of a bios error code 0200 fixed disk error which I cannot resolve with either google, or forums as to the exact nature of the failiure.
[13:38] <JackPhil> could smbclient connect to vista share folder?
[13:38] <ikonia> porkpie: hello
[13:38] <IdleOne> rik: I have not but I am behind a router also so I assume I would get similar results as you did
[13:38] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: Unplugging the hdd resolves the 0200?
[13:38] <DRebellion> JackPhil: assuming that the shared folder uses samba, yes
[13:38] <JCDG> hi friends, i'm having some trouble with the scroll in my usb mouse, it jus doesn't work
[13:38] <porkpie> ikonia:hi .... have you ever setup pptp server
[13:39] <Omegacenti> I guess my main thing now is, what is a really good laptop (best money can buy atm) that fully supports ubuntu linux, and what is an afordable but popular laptop that also features full support of ubuntu.
[13:39] <ikonia> porkpie: not for a long term
[13:39] <Omegacenti> ZionPsyfer Yes it does, and I can boot a live cd after that.
[13:39] <JCDG> i've tried modifying the xorg but it still doesn't work
[13:39] <IdleOne> rik: are you running a web server ?
[13:39] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: Thinkpads in general work great.
[13:39] <ikonia> Omegacenti: look in the hardware compatability list
[13:39] <ikonia> Omegacenti: just pick one with compatible hardware
[13:39] <rik> IdleOne: No
[13:40] <Omegacenti> ikonia I was looking for something more akin to a holy grail type compatibility :)
[13:40] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: Alright then it's almost certainly the hdd.  Do you have an alternate that you can try to plug in?
[13:40] <nymtar> a propos thinkpads .. anyone knows if a thinkpad x22 can supply enough energy for a 108mbps wifi card?
[13:40] <Omegacenti> ZionPsyfer not atm.
[13:40] <ikonia> Omegacenti: well, just look at specs, I've seen IBM's Dells very good and very bad, so it's model speicific
[13:40] <IdleOne> rik: I mean port 80 is a common port and is needed for surfing . if I understand the internet and how it works
[13:40] <Omegacenti> ZionPsyfer this is the second harddrive that has crashed in this laptop :/
[13:40] <nymtar> dont want to buy one and my x22 doesnt have enough power
[13:41] <DRebellion> Omegacenti: best money can buy?! Build it yourself and make sure all of the components you put in are high quality and linux compatible.
[13:41] <Omegacenti> DRebellion A self built LAPTOP?!?!
[13:41] <Omegacenti> DRebellion That actually exists?!
[13:41] <JackPhil> DRebellion, samba is the default share mode of vista? You know, I tried some times, but failed.
[13:42] <DRebellion> JackPhil: well it is vista ;)
[13:42] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: Ouch!  one thing you can do is when you have ubuntu up and running next, install the 'smartmontools' package.  You can get SMART info from the disk. (sorry if you already knew that)
[13:42] <Omegacenti> ZionPsyfer no problem and I did :) thats how I got my load/unload cycle count increase/hr
[13:42] <neko_> hi
[13:42] <_nmap> ZionPsyfer: thanks man.
[13:42] <rosewater> hi
[13:42] <neko_> is someone did the recent update and use the aptana ide
[13:42] <juan_antonio> thespacebuttonstoppedworking
[13:42] <juan_antonio> !
[13:43] <ZionPsyfer> _nmap: Np. =)
[13:43] <neko_> and have it not working anymore :(
[13:43] <rosewater> how to make vim make automatic tabs?
[13:43] <Tnax87> hi everyone, i have a small problem with my soundcard. would be happy if someone could help me out.
[13:43] <Omegacenti> ZionPsyfer the problem now though is that I can't even boot a livecd with the harddrive in, because it doesn't boot all the way.
[13:43] <Rei-chan> Quick question: su does not require the executing user to be in group wheel on Ubuntu, correct?
[13:44] <Tnax87> i connected my external soundcard (a creative live usb) and disabled the intergrated soundcard in bios
[13:44] <l3ttuc3> is there something to unpack .rar files in linux?
[13:44] <neko_> yep
[13:44] <Omegacenti> General consensus of the ability of Gateway laptops to do with Ubuntu?  The one that just crashed 2 HDD's of mine = gateway.
[13:44] <IdleOne> !rar
[13:44] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[13:44] <Tnax87> but for some reason now i get sound in movies but not any system sound/mp3 or anything else
[13:44] <l3ttuc3> thanks.
[13:44] <makak__> hiya
[13:45] <Tnax87> when i test the output in the audiopreferenses i get sound
[13:45] <Tnax87> but nowere else
[13:45] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: I've had weirdness with bad hard drives causing like 2 minute delays for the POST, or 10 minute boot times from a CD.  A new hdd solved the problem.  I'm not sure if it was IRQ goofiness or just the system attempting ide resets so often that it borked other things... but I'd put money on the drive rather than the controller or mobo  as of right now.
[13:46] <Cromag> i am having trouble with vlc, when i open vlc, either via via cli or gui, it fails with a message "Cannot set locale """. When in cli i can see;  (process:8467): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library and .:8467): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. and last; Using the fallback 'C' locale. - I can not open any files with vlc. I have tried the "completely removal" with no success. Any ideas ?
[13:46] <risjh> hi, ubuntu livecd should have build-essential package by default
[13:47] <ikonia> Cromag: that looks like a language locale issue
[13:47] <zackie> help with SKYPE Voice... i can hear them.. they can' hear me... any suggestions?
[13:47] <Ar-ras> ikonia i can boot netboot, but if i try to boot ubuntu iso content it sais kernel panic
[13:47] <ikonia> risjh: no it shouldn't
[13:47] <risjh> its a pain to downliad and install it for normal compiling to work
[13:47] <risjh> ikonia: why not?
[13:47] <ikonia> Ar-ras: I don't think you'll be able to use the physical cd image as that has hard device links in
[13:47] <risjh> i was thinking of using it in all the laptops in our uni
[13:47] <risjh> (ubuntu, i mean)
[13:47] <Cromag> ikonia: i once had a different lang, but it is set back to english. How would i check this ?
[13:47] <ikonia> risjh: because it's there it install ubuntu, not act as a compiling platofmr
[13:47] <ikonia> risjh: install ubuntu on your laptops
[13:48] <rosewater> VIM USERS: how to make vim make automatic tabs?
[13:48] <IdleOne> risjh: why would you need to compile anything from the livecd?
[13:48] <risjh> ikonia: then how to compile?
[13:48] <ikonia> Cromag: just let me ponder
[13:48] <ikonia> risjh: install ubuntu onto the laptops
[13:48] <zackie> help with SKYPE Voice... i can hear them.. they can' hear me... any suggestions?
[13:48] <risjh> IdleOne: no, not the livecd, i mean the default install doesn't have build-essentials
[13:48] <ikonia> risjh: then install build essential onto the laptop
[13:48] <ikonia> risjh: so install it
[13:48] <ikonia> risjh: it's a one time install
[13:48] <risjh> ikonia: thats the problem, the wireless card in in all the laptops doesnt have drivers for linux
[13:48] <risjh> broadcom
[13:48] <risjh> and we dont have wired connection here
[13:48] <zackie> help with SKYPE Voice... i can hear them.. they can' hear me... any suggestions?
[13:48] <risjh> so, there is no way we can connec to the internet to install extra packages
[13:49] <ikonia> zackie: stop asking every 10 seconds plesase.
[13:49] <ikonia> risjh: use a wired connetion
[13:49] <ikonia> risjh: download ot a usb drive ?
[13:49] <l3ttuc3> risjh ndiswrapper and xp drivers?
[13:49] <risjh> ikonia: we dont have a wired one nearby :/
[13:49] <zackie> ikonia___ sorry haha....
[13:49] <ikonia> risjh: use a usb device then
[13:49] <IdleOne> risjh: why do you need to compile from the default install. ubuntu is meant for " Regular User" not linux experts. that is why everything the regular user would need is packaged. so installing build-essential is wasted space on the install cd
[13:49] <risjh> l3ttuc3: thats how i maake it work now, but its a pain to do so in 200_ laptops
[13:49] <Ar-ras> ikonia any idea?
[13:49] <ikonia> risjh: thinkpads have drives, (did you say you where on thinkpads ?)
[13:49] <ikonia> Ar-ras: ideas for what ?
[13:50] <fourchan> sudo rm -fr / to solve it
[13:50] <l3ttuc3> risjh use scripts?
[13:50] <IdleOne> risjh: although if you need it you can install it from the repos :)
[13:50] <ikonia> fourchan: thats not funnd
[13:50] <Ar-ras> ikonia i can boot netboot, but if i try to boot ubuntu iso content it sais kernel panic
[13:50] <ikonia> fourchan: NEVER say that
[13:50] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Check your mic settings both in skype and in ubuntu.  I haven't used Skype in linux, so that's about as much help as I can give.
[13:50] <ikonia> fourchan: that could dage a users machine
[13:50] <Omegacenti> Yep
[13:50] <ikonia> IdleOne: it's on the CD too I think
[13:50] <barnbarn> my fresh install kernel panics on /etc/init.d/udev being run, any ideas please?
[13:50] <Omegacenti> That is a nice ban.
[13:51] <ikonia> risjh: have you looked if it's on the cd ?
[13:51] <zackie> zionpysyfer___It worked earlier... as well as recording but now.. not so much... heh
[13:51] <Rei-chan> Awesome, anonymous trolling #ubuntu
[13:51] <risjh_> sorry i was disconnected
[13:51] <Omegacenti> WTH was fourchan thinking? it is clearly in the etiquette of ubuntu NOT to say that.
[13:51] <ikonia> Omegacenti: ok - drop it
[13:51] <risjh_> sorry i was disconnected
[13:51] <ikonia> risjh: have you tried installing it from the cd
[13:51] <IdleOne> ikonia: might be but does not need to be installed by default for the specific reason that everything a "Normal user" needs is pre-packaged
[13:51] <Omegacenti> My apologies ikonia
[13:51] <ikonia> risjh: I think build essential is actually on the cd, just not installed ?
[13:51] <ikonia> risjh: download the ubuntu dvd and install from there
[13:51] <risjh_> ikonia: is it?
[13:51] <Ar-ras> ikonia i can boot netboot, but if i try to boot ubuntu iso content it sais kernel panic
[13:51] <risjh_> yes that seems like an option
[13:52] <ikonia> risjh_: not certain about the cd - but certainly the dvd
[13:52] <Stevethepirate> Y0. I've just got my PC back from repairs... Grub loader doesn't show anymore, just goes straight to windows... Windows still shows partitions though.. Any advice?
[13:52] <risjh_> does edubuntu install it by default?
[13:52] <ikonia> risjh_: no - edubuntu is the same base as all the other ubuntus
[13:52] <Omegacenti> Alright ikonia, I am taking up your suggestion of looking for specs for different manufacturers of laptops, and ZionPsyfer, I will also be looking into thinkpads.
[13:52] <risjh_> its not about "normal users" we are university students
[13:52] <IdleOne> risjh: doubt it
[13:52] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Volume levels good?  Can you record things with Sound Recorder?
[13:52] <risjh_> who need to compile stuff as we are learning C/C++
[13:52] <risjh_> so i was wondering if it has it by default
[13:52] <Stevethepirate> Get GC++
[13:52] <Stevethepirate> [gcc]
[13:52] <ikonia> risjh_: no ubuntu  install does
[13:52] <Stevethepirate> sudo apt-get install gcc
[13:52] <risjh_> yeah, but we need build0essential to compile stuff
[13:52] <ikonia> risjh_: install the package from the dvd
[13:53] <Ar-ras> ikonia i can boot netboot, but if i try to boot ubuntu iso content it sais kernel panic
[13:53] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: you've mised it all, he can't do that
[13:53] <zackie> zionpsyfer___now it gives me an error to check mulitmdia...
[13:53] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: sounds good, ikonia has great advice.  A few hours of homework before the purchase can save a ton of headaches and work. =)
[13:53] <risjh_> ikonia: yeah i think, thats the only option
[13:53] <ikonia> Ar-ras: you can't use the cd image
[13:53] <Stevethepirate> Okay.. just trying to teh_helpzor
[13:53] <IdleOne> risjh: packages.ubuntu.com has all the packages you need if it is not on the cd
[13:53] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: no problem, just saving you time
[13:53] <risjh_> ikonia: the thing is i have managed to convince several students to remove stupid windows and isntall ubuntu rather
[13:53] <risjh_> but when things dont work, its a shame :(
[13:53] <ikonia> risjh_: you may want to consider a mirror of the ubuntu-repo's onto your uni's lan and hardware it for future user
[13:53] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: quicker I can help others, quicker i can get my problem solved :P
[13:53] <jrib> risjh_: build-essential is on the cd, just not installed by default afaik
[13:53] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: what's up
[13:53] <risjh_> on the cd, sure?
[13:54] <ikonia> jrib: thats what I thought
[13:54] <Stevethepirate> "Seeing a 40 year old crack whore wearing a shirt saying "You can't afford me" and knowing she's probably right made me realize I'd hit rock bottom."
[13:54] <risjh_> jrib: sure?
[13:54] <Stevethepirate> whoops
[13:54] <zackie> zionpsyfer___now it gives me an error to check mulitmdia...
[13:54] <Ar-ras> ikonia i can boot netboot, but if i try to boot ubuntu iso content it sais kernel panic
[13:54] <Stevethepirate> quoting onesentence is fail
[13:54] <risjh_> talking about the cd, not the dvd
[13:54] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Any other programs using the sound card?
[13:54] <Stevethepirate> Y0. I've just got my PC back from repairs... Grub loader doesn't show anymore, just goes straight to windows... Windows still shows partitions though.. Any advice?
[13:54] <Stevethepirate> @ ikonia
[13:54] <ikonia> Ar-ras: I've told you - I don't believe you can use the cdimage iso
[13:54] <jrib> risjh_: last time I checked, yes.  But I have not needed it from 7.10, so I can't be sure.  Just pop in a CD and check
[13:54] <zackie> zionpsyfer___just skype....
[13:54] <ikonia> !grub > Stevethepirate
[13:54] <IdleOne> !fixgrub | Stevethepirate
[13:54] <ubotu> Stevethepirate: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:54] <risjh_> jrib: how to check?
[13:54] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: just re-apply grub (use the link ubotu sent you)
[13:54] <risjh_> jrib: apt-get install?
[13:55] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: kk
[13:55] <risjh_> or apt-cache search
[13:55] <Stevethepirate> Another question then...
[13:55] <Stevethepirate> I've got 2 PC's
[13:55] <jrib> risjh_: are you on the live cd or an installed ubuntu?
[13:55] <Stevethepirate> Desktop and lappie.... i'm installing kubuntu on new lappie now.
[13:55] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: with you so far
[13:55] <Stevethepirate> I need to get almost the same packages on lappie.
[13:55] <IdleOne> !clone
[13:55] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[13:55] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: try these commands:  'lsof /dev/dsp'   and 'lsof /dev/snd/*'   That will tell you what's using OSS and ALSA.
[13:55] <Stevethepirate> Can i just take the .deb's from /var/cache or whatever
[13:55] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: just install what you want
[13:55] <Stevethepirate> and install
[13:56] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: nah, not the best approach
[13:56] <Stevethepirate> Hmm.
[13:56] <Stevethepirate> They're identical CPU's
[13:56] <Cromag> ikonia: you look rather busy, should i try someone else? :)
[13:56] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: you can do it if you want, but I don't like it
[13:56] <zackie> zionpsyfer___ i don't understand...?
[13:56] <Stevethepirate> Okay..
[13:56] <ikonia> Cromag: no problem, what's up
[13:56] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Sorry. >.<
[13:56] <Stevethepirate> its just, cap is a problem for us 3rd world peeps :P
[13:56] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: understood
[13:56] <Cromag> same problem as before, vlc issue, maybe language issue.
[13:56] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: install as manay packages as possible from the cdrom
[13:57] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Do you have any audio players running?  Any video players?
[13:57] <zackie> zionpsyfer___It used to work now it doesn't what does that mean?
[13:57] <vlt> Hello. I'm looking for a tool to do the following: Showing presentation slides in fullscreen while controlling audio playback independently. The slides are partially animated but I could convert that sequences to video before if neccessary. For audio playback I need a "skip" button that crossfades the next track in. The xfade duration should be editable (two global values for fade in and fade out are enough). Any idea?
[13:57] <ikonia> Cromag: what does gnome tell you your language is set to
[13:57] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: yeah, we have a ubuntu mirror at uni.. just wanna hack some wifi before i return :P
[13:57] <zackie> zionpsyfer___ no other than skype
[13:57] <Cromag> ikonia: default is english /american.
[13:58] <ikonia> Cromag: not sure why vlc is looking at the wrong locale, try removing it with --purge and re-installing makes sure it has no legacy files then
[13:58] <ikonia> Cromag: thats a bit of a weak suggestion but I'm not great with vlc
[13:58] <soulrider> Does anyone know if hte latest xorg breaks anything? =/
[13:59] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: that link you gave me.. allows manual editing of bootloader..
[13:59] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Is skype telling you to check your multimedia settings?  Or was sound recorder the one complaining.
[13:59] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: it also tells you how to apply grub
[13:59] <Cromag> ikonia: well, i tried removing "completely" via synaptic, which removes all that should have anything to do with vlc.
[13:59] <Stevethepirate> is there a automatic way? like, when i installed ubuntu first time.
[13:59] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: sudo "grub"
[13:59] <zackie> zionpsyfer___the Recorder
[13:59] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: no, I don't trust the tools like "grub-install"
[13:59] <Stevethepirate> I do
[13:59] <ikonia> Cromag: I've no idea what vlc uses to work out the required locale
[13:59] <Stevethepirate> works fine
[13:59] <ikonia> Cromag: I'm not a user
[13:59] <jrib> risjh_: I have to go now for a bit, but others can help you check.  If you have the CD's repository enabled, then yes, you can try to apt-get it directly
[13:59] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: ok, use that then
[14:00] <Stevethepirate> so, i just do a sudo grub-install?
[14:00] <jakbeatz> It seems iptables is installed by default, but the hooks to load it on bootup aren't.  Is there a package to install the bootup hooks (init.d files, etc)?
[14:00] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: how can you say "works fine" when you don't know how to use it ?
[14:00] <Cromag> ikonia: ah ok. thank you for trying :)
[14:00] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: well. It worked fine on installation.
[14:00] <ikonia> Cromag: apologies
[14:00] <Stevethepirate> I.e. it set up bootloader fine.
[14:00] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: thats not what the installation used
[14:00] <Cromag> dont :)
[14:00] <jakbeatz> sorry..  it seems iptables is installed by default on ubunto-server, rather.  Sorry, first msg was incomplete.
[14:00] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Alright, that's ok then.  It does that to me sometimes.  Let me grab skype really quick and install it so I can be a little more helpful.
[14:00] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: okay, in that case.. what did the installer use?
[14:01] <dundel> how do you use tor on xchat but with the gpg key so i can still join #ubuntu
[14:01] <zackie> zionpsyfer___ cool thanks.. it did work abou 30 mins ago
[14:01] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: a set of custom scripts as part of the python install routine
[14:01] <erUSUL> !tor
[14:01] <ubotu> TOR is a project aiming to provide anonymous connections via specialized !proxies - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR for information and help - Note that TOR is blocked on most Ubuntu IRC channels, please see !hostmask and !tor-gpg
[14:01] <Omegacenti> ZionPsyfer blah, went to the compatibility confirmed page on ubuntu website, haven't yet to see a thinkpad :)
[14:01] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: is there no way to repeat that?
[14:01] <Stevethepirate> Or replicate it:
[14:01] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: not that I'm aware of
[14:01] <barnbarn> running udevtrigger causes my machine to kernel panic in fact
[14:01] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: but your welcome to use grub-install or do it manually (takes 2 minutes)
[14:02] <ikonia> barnbarn: are you running it manaully ? or is something invoking it
[14:02] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: Hmmm, I've ran it great on my T23, A31 and R61i.  =P  That's only my experience though.
[14:02] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: thing is.. that I lack internet at home.
[14:02] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: how does that effect what your asking me about grub ?
[14:03] <Stevethepirate> Well, if I need to make any live discs, i've got to do that now..
[14:03] <Stevethepirate> its not like i can pop home, get info i need, return
[14:03] <Stevethepirate> etc
[14:03] <ikonia> well,you'll need something to boot off to repair it no matter what method you chose
[14:03] <Pici> Omegacenti: Check http://thinkwiki.org, Thinkpads tend to support linux quite well.
[14:03] <ikonia> you just need an ubuntu install tv
[14:03] <Stevethepirate> http://forjamari.linex.org/projects/supergrub/
[14:04] <Stevethepirate> you ever used that?
[14:04] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: you don't need supergrub cd's
[14:04] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: just the ubuntu install cd, kubuntu, xububunt, ubuntu-server any current ubuntu cd
[14:04] <Omegacenti> Pici: recommend any others as well? Just so I can broaden my horizons.
[14:05] <ikonia> Omegacenti: they are very version specific, check the specs against the hcl
[14:05] <Stevethepirate> Recovering GRUB Automatically
[14:05] <Stevethepirate> ?
[14:05] <Stevethepirate> Looks good :P
[14:05] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: do what you want
[14:05] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: it's clear you don't want
[14:05] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: clear you don't want someone to help you, as your just doing your own thing any way
[14:06] <Stevethepirate> I have XP installed, I have ubuntu installed. PC Turns on, goes straight to XP, need the simplest solution, as simple as possible.
[14:06] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: boot ubuntu cd - re-install grub - 2 minutes
[14:06] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: what part of that have I not made clear in my discussion with you
[14:06] <DRebellion> !grub | Stevethepirate
[14:06] <ubotu> Stevethepirate: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:08] <porkpie> ikonia:I getting this error when trying to connect into the pptp server PTY read or GRE write failed (pty,gre)=(6,7)
[14:08] <puneesh> having no sound in ubuntu 7.10. tried lspci -v the device is present also set alsamixer. any suggestions?
[14:08] <tof> vous êtes là les fans de l'acer eee ??
[14:09] <tof> oops sorry wrong chanel
[14:09] <DRebellion> !fr | tof
[14:09] <ubotu> tof: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:09] <ikonia> porkpie: no idea, thats not really a lot to go on
[14:09] <Rei-chan> !english
[14:09] <dundel> thx obotu
[14:09] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[14:09] <dundel> !tor
[14:09] <ikonia> DRebellion: he said wrong channel
[14:09] <ubotu> TOR is a project aiming to provide anonymous connections via specialized !proxies - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR for information and help - Note that TOR is blocked on most Ubuntu IRC channels, please see !hostmask and !tor-gpg
[14:09]  * Rei-chan is mainly joking, tof.
[14:09] <ikonia> he knew he was in the wrong channel
[14:09] <DRebellion> !sound | puneesh
[14:09] <ubotu> puneesh: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[14:10] <zackie> zionpsyfer___ cool thanks.. it did work abou 30 mins ago
[14:10] <h1st0> dundel: ubotu is just a bot.  You can send hit a private message to pick his brain rather than in channel
[14:10] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Alright, I've got it installed.  Can you go into the Main menu for me?  We want to go into the Sound options.
[14:10] <dundel> hehe
[14:10] <user_> Hi
[14:10] <zackie> zionpsyfer___what is the main menu? what part?
[14:10] <diesousil> :p
[14:10] <vbabiy> Hey guys
[14:11] <user_> I am having problem in sound on Ubuntu 7.10.
[14:11] <ZionPsyfer> In the lower left corner of the skype window (the main one where your contacts are shown) there is a little blue circle with an S in it.
[14:11] <xomp> hey folks, is it possible to use Beryl on Gutsy?
[14:11] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i install java 1.5
[14:11] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Click on that and click on options.
[14:11] <Pici> !beryl | xomp
[14:11] <ubotu> xomp: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[14:11] <Jay-Oh-En> j21.5?
[14:11] <Jay-Oh-En> !java 1.5
[14:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java 1.5 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:11] <Jay-Oh-En> !java1.5
[14:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java1.5 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:12] <sandr-> !java | Jay-Oh-En
[14:12] <ubotu> Jay-Oh-En: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[14:12] <Rei-chan> Beaten. :(
[14:12] <zackie> zionpsyfer___click on what???
[14:12] <h1st0> xomp: yes
[14:12] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: In the lower left corner of the skype window (the main one where your contacts are shown) there is a little blue circle with an S in it.
[14:12] <user_> After some searching I solved the initial problem of Sound Server error. No the problem is I am getting sound when I am startin banshee/rythmbox but when I play the next song banshee/rythmbox freezes. No sound
[14:12] <Jay-Oh-En> sandr-, thats not what i need i need java 1.5 all they got in the repos is 1.4
[14:12] <h1st0> xomp: I don't know why you wouldn't want to sue compizfusion though.
[14:12] <vlt> Maybe I'm looking for two programs: One for the slides/videos part and one for playing back the audio tracks, but which I can control while the presentation program is in full screen mode ... Any idea?
[14:12] <xomp> h1st0: compizfusion easy to find for ubuntu?
[14:13] <h1st0> xomp: its already installed if you are running gutsy
[14:13] <ikonia> xomp: it's already installed on 7.10
[14:13] <zackie> zionpsyfer__ In options on Skype
[14:13] <xomp> nice :D
[14:13] <h1st0> xomp: you just need to configure it.
[14:13] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Alright towards the bottom, you will see Sound Devices.  Click on that.
[14:13] <sandr-> Jay-Oh-En: isn't that java6 now ?
[14:13] <xomp> I saw a video on youtube about vista and beryl and wanted it something fierce on this box lol. Anyway I can access all the neat stuff it has?
[14:13] <user_> I have done  sudo chmod 666 /dev/dsp
[14:13] <h1st0> xomp: to get it to look how you want.  Just system > preferences > appearence
[14:13] <xomp> since it's already installed
[14:13] <zackie> zionpsyfer____Okay...
[14:13] <ikonia> xomp: sure
[14:14] <Jay-Oh-En> i dont know i have java 6 was for web
[14:14] <user_> zackie: was that for me?
[14:14] <sandr-> Jay-Oh-En: and you need the sdk?
[14:14] <neko_> aptana user around ?
[14:14] <h1st0> xomp: yes basically I usually install compizconfig-settings-manager  which is then accessible through the appearence settings.
[14:14] <h1st0> xomp: it just allows an easier control of all the plugins etc...
[14:14] <zackie> user___ no? lol
[14:14] <xomp> awesome, thanks so much :)
[14:14] <sandr-> neko_: sometimes... basic usage
[14:14] <plutarcus> hi all
[14:15] <neko_> you have it keep working with the last updates ?
[14:15] <Jay-Oh-En> sandr-, ill check it out
[14:15] <zackie> zionpsyfer____I have Sound Devices up....
[14:15] <neko_> sandr ?
[14:15] <plutarcus> i'm having a trouble with virtualbox
[14:15] <user_> Ubuntu sound problem. Help please
[14:15] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: There is a button that says 'Make a test call' .  Click on that and follow the instructions.  Talk into your mic after the beep.  It will play back what it heard.  If you can't hear yourself, uncheck the check box that says 'Allow Skype to automatically adjust my mixer levels'
[14:15] <plutarcus> some one can help me?
[14:15] <user_> After some searching I solved the initial problem of Sound Server error. No the problem is I am getting sound when I am startin banshee/rythmbox but when I play the next song banshee/rythmbox freezes. No sound
[14:15] <sandr-> hehe no :) I allways got that 'updates available' but it doenst start the update ..
[14:15] <dundel> plutarcus: check also #vbox
[14:15] <stf> Hi. Running feisty I think. When I do Ctrl+Alt+F1 I get a black screen instead of a virtual terminal. What's going on?
[14:15] <plutarcus> VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel and execute '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv start' as root.
[14:15] <plutarcus> VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED).
[14:15] <plutarcus> Codice&nbspd'uscita:
[14:15] <plutarcus> 0x80004005
[14:15] <plutarcus> Componente:
[14:15] <plutarcus> Console
[14:15] <FloodBot1> plutarcus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:15] <neko_> i mean the ubuntu updates
[14:15] <neko_> sandr
[14:16] <neko_> i have installed the last ubuntu updates then now aptana won't start
[14:16] <sandr-> you can't update ubuntu due to aptana or what? :s
[14:16] <neko_> nope
[14:16] <robertj_> is vmware-server working on hardy?
[14:16] <neko_> i can update ubuntu
[14:17] <ikonia> !aptana > ikonia
[14:17] <cliebow> anyone else get megaraid errors..in gutsy?
[14:17] <rosewater> set autoindent was the answert
[14:17] <ikonia> what is aptana ?
[14:17] <neko_> things i did this morning as usual when i see the update manager
[14:17] <zackie> zionpsyfer____okay i made a test call and enabled "Allow Skype to automatically adjust my miex levels"
[14:17] <neko_> then after the last installation of this updates
[14:17] <sandr-> neko_: Aptana Studio, build: 1.0.1.004323 ; Ubuntu up to date : everything working
[14:17] <Pici> ikonia: Its something built on top of Eclipse.
[14:17] <neko_> aptana won't start
[14:17] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: could you hear yourself when it played the call back?
[14:17] <ikonia> Pici: thanks
[14:17] <neko_> that's strange
[14:17] <BoltClock> ikonia: aptana is an IDE for web development http://www.aptana.com, and as Pici said, built on eclipse
[14:17] <plutarcus> ok, now this is my problem when i try to start a virtual machine in virtualbox: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52410/
[14:17] <Sonjaaa> i often get green blobs when watching a video. how do i make sure i have all the best codecs?
[14:17] <Omegacenti> ikonia, by any chance do you know of a link to ubuntus compatability list? I think I am looking in the wrong place.
[14:18] <ikonia> neko_: start it manually and see what it says
[14:18] <ikonia> !hcl | Omegacenti
[14:18] <ubotu> Omegacenti: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[14:18] <BoltClock> Pici: i havent yet managed to find a solution to my problem in the forums... i only found a thread whose starter ended up using envy
[14:18] <ikonia> Omegacenti: basiclly just look a "linux compatible" websites
[14:18] <fx|RabBit> hi all! i just inserted a new 500gig hdd into my ubuntu pc but i dont see it anywhere and i neither find any menu to initalize it in administration or poreferences, what am i supposed to do?
[14:18] <neko_> "The program '' received an X Window System error" etc...
[14:18] <Pici> BoltClock: You can try using it, but if it doesnt work, we dont support it.
[14:18] <plutarcus> someone can help me?
[14:18] <neko_> as the last updates was about xorg
[14:19] <BoltClock> Pici: doesn't work, if it did i wouldnt have asked for anymore help :P
[14:19] <zackie> zionpsyfer____didn't hear my voice....
[14:19] <BoltClock> Pici: looks like im on my own? ><
[14:19] <neko_> it seem the last xorg update bring some problems with aptana :(
[14:19] <fx|RabBit> how do i initalize a new hdd?
[14:19] <dreven> is there a program that allows merging of partitions ?
[14:19] <Pici> BoltClock: Try asking the channel some more, be patient :)
[14:19] <DRebellion> fx|RabBit: is it in /dev? if so just enter it into /etc/fstab i think
[14:19] <fx|RabBit> dreven, yes lvm == logical volume manager
[14:19] <maarten_> need someone who has experience installing shroudbnc on ubuntu
[14:19] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Alright, do you see the little speaker icon up next to your clock in the upper right part of your screen?  double click on it.
[14:20] <dreven> is lvm the name of the package in synaptic?
[14:20] <zackie> zionpsyfer___ yess
[14:20] <neko_> is there a way to downgrade some package ?
[14:20] <fx|RabBit> DRebellion: thx ill have a look...
[14:20] <BoltClock> Pici: ok... ive been here since 6 or something :/
[14:20] <h1st0> neko_: remove it and see if you have an older version in cache
[14:20] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: After your volume control is up, look and see if your Mic is on there.
[14:20] <ikonia> maarten_: what are yo looking for
[14:20] <fx|RabBit> DRebellion: is there no easier way to initialize a hdd in linux but via fstab and co??
[14:20] <maarten_> how to install it
[14:21] <ikonia> dreven: lvm is a volume manager
[14:21] <h1st0> neko_: /var/cache/apt
[14:21] <ikonia> maarten_: how to start what ?
[14:21] <DRebellion> fx|RabBit: i don't know
[14:21] <neko_> arg h1st0 i have clean it recently
[14:21] <fx|RabBit> no gui like in windows?
[14:21] <maarten_> an shroudbnc server
[14:21] <fx|RabBit> cant be it
[14:21] <navlop> has anyone use ispconfig with ubuntu server pckg?
[14:21] <zackie> zionpsyfer___all the mic's are up all line in are up all capture are up
[14:21] <ikonia> shroudbnc server, never heard of that
[14:21] <h1st0> neko_: hrm.. what package are you trying to downgrade and why?
[14:21] <ikonia> navlop: no sorry
[14:21] <neko_> xorg
[14:21] <neko_> the last updates
[14:21] <ikonia> neko_: xorg is intalled by default
[14:21] <eckesicle> !suspend
[14:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:21] <ikonia> neko_: if you want to update "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[14:21] <Gringo_> neko: don't tell me it broke for you too?
[14:21] <Gringo_> i just came here in search for help
[14:22] <eckesicle> !hibernate
[14:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:22] <h1st0> neko_: what broke?
[14:22] <neko_> bug with aptana ide
[14:22] <neko_> no more working
[14:22] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: in the top portion of the volume control window, click on the Edit menu and click on Preferences.
[14:22] <BoltClock> Pici: im still on gutsy, still low gfx mode. just an fyi
[14:22] <ikonia> neko_: yes, I got that, start it manually from the command line and see what it gives you
[14:22] <neko_> it says it receive X window System error
[14:22] <neko_> BadAlloc ....
[14:22] <ikonia> neko_: and thats it ?
[14:22] <neko_> etc ...
[14:22] <zackie> zionpsyfer___ Okay
[14:22] <neko_> yep
[14:22] <navlop> what does someone use with Ubuntu server as a gui frontend
[14:23] <ikonia> neko_: please pastebin the full error (etc etc is no use)
[14:23] <ikonia> navlop: some server apps need a gui
[14:23] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Make sure all the Mics are checked.  Mine shows two.  Are there any that weren't checked?
[14:23] <neko_> okey ikonia
[14:23] <h1st0> navlop: I don't use a GUI on my server.  But if you want to install one there are many options.
[14:23] <neko_> i don't remember url of a pastebin
[14:23] <dreven> does lvm dynamically link the partitions or actually merge them? EIther way would be good
[14:23] <ikonia> !pastebin | neko_
[14:23] <h1st0> !paste > neko_
[14:23] <navlop> ikonia: everyone tells me to use ebox, tried it crashed server need to restart...
[14:23] <ubotu> neko_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:23] <BoltClock> Pici: wait, i have another problem too with sound, perhaps i could try solving it right now... so anyway i cant hear a thing but im not too sure of my sound card and hardware
[14:24] <neko_> thansk
[14:24] <deeeed> hi
[14:24] <h1st0> navlop: so you want a full fledged gui?
[14:24] <h1st0> navlop: or just controls for the server like webmin or something?
[14:24] <neko_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52413/
[14:24] <Pici> !sound > BoltClock (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:24] <neko_> here the full output
[14:24] <zackie> zionpsyfer___ Nahr.. there wasn't
[14:24] <navlop> yeah like webmin, was using it but keep getting errors
[14:24] <maiG6etab002> any other that have problems with games tun in fullscreen, sometimes change to show in a window instead (while you play) ?
[14:24] <maiG6etab002> (and after a while go back to fullscreen again), for example tuxracer or supertux
[14:25] <h1st0> navlop: I would just google webmin alternatives
[14:25] <navlop> hlst0: yeah like webmin, was using it but keep getting errors
[14:25] <Pici> !ebox | navlop
[14:25] <ubotu> navlop: ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[14:25] <ikonia> neko_: what video card do you have
[14:25] <neko_> i 810
[14:25] <maiG6etab002> *run not tun :)
[14:25] <stf> Hi. When I do Ctrl+Alt+F1 I get a black screen instead of a virtual terminal. What's going on?
[14:25] <ikonia> neko_: ok thanks
[14:25] <BoltClock> Pici: double-clicking doesnt even let me access anything, it just spits two errors and does nothing else
[14:25] <Seveas> stf, do you use vga=xxx kernel parameters?
[14:26] <navlop> Pici, followed it step by step, and guess what back to step 1, re-install server...lol
[14:26] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Darn, I'm running out of stuff to check!  Ok, in your main volume control window, there are no red X's down below the volumes?  The mic has no volume control or mute switch on the actual mic itself?
[14:26] <neko_> wait
[14:26] <stf> Seveas: yes
[14:26] <neko_> ikonia
[14:26] <Seveas> stf, don't
[14:26] <ikonia> neko_: oh ?
[14:26] <neko_> that's a i945gm
[14:26] <solomon> i've got a set of packages that i installed from an archive other than xubuntu, and i would like xubuntu's update manager to ignore them.  using 'aptitude hold' has no effect -- is there anything i can do?
[14:26] <ikonia> neko_: thank you
[14:26] <Seveas> stf, or use ones that work :)
[14:26] <navlop> Pici: followed it step by step, and guess what back to step 1, re-install server...lol
[14:26] <zackie> zionpsyfer___ yeah its all a go.. but hey bruddah let me restart maybe that shall help?
[14:26] <h1st0> stf: frame buffer is messed up in gutsy.
[14:26] <Rev_> anyone know why lib6-i386 , get delete every few mins?!
[14:26] <stf> Seveas: hm, thanks
[14:26] <BoltClock> Pici: now spits one error: "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[14:26] <deeeed> hmm I'm having problems with the last Xorg update, it totally killed my eclipse installation ( http://rafb.net/p/pywcfz63.html ). I don't know yet if there are problems with other applications.. How can i rollback to previous xorg package ? :p
[14:26] <stf> h1st0: feisty here, I think
[14:27] <neko_> same
[14:27] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: It may. =)  Worth a shot at this point.
[14:27] <neko_> deeeed
[14:27] <neko_> i have just the same problam
[14:27] <h1st0> stf: well if you are using feisty then it should be working.  Unless you are using a vga code that is wrong.
[14:27] <Tilllinux> whythehack doesn't openoffice export the file to pdf with quotes? (" ")
[14:27] <zackie> zionpsyfer__brb okay?
[14:27] <Rev_> Anyone think there is a VIRUS for ubuntu?!
[14:27] <stf> h1st0: vga=791
[14:27] <neko_> with aptana which is just an eclipse mod
[14:27] <BoltClock> ill look at the wiki for info
[14:27] <DRebellion> !virus | Rev_
[14:27] <navlop> hlst0: will ispconfig be just as good as webmin
[14:27] <ubotu> Rev_: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[14:27] <h1st0> stf: try a lower color mode.
[14:27] <ikonia> Rev_: no - there isn't
[14:27] <deeeed> neko_, any idea to solve the problem ?
[14:27] <stf> h1st0: k
[14:27] <neko_> not right now
[14:27] <h1st0> navlop: no idea never used.  some other have suggested ebox.
[14:28] <neko_> but i was about thinking also about rolling back
[14:28] <ikonia> neko_: just bare with me I'm just crapping some updates to do some testing
[14:28] <Rev_> lol  , then why i am havin a problem with libc6-i386 (evey few mins its removed)
[14:28] <deeeed> That's a big problem as I'm at work and i can't work without eclipse :s
[14:28] <h1st0> !virus > Rev_,   Rev_ Read the private message from ubotu.
[14:28] <ikonia> Rev_: it's removed ?
[14:28] <neko_> same deeeed
[14:28] <Rev_> yeah
[14:28] <neko_> that was a really bad idea to update
[14:28] <Rev_> well , in Synipatic its their , but when i start firefox or wine or getlibs it say its not their
[14:29] <neko_> next time i will update thing in the end of the work week
[14:29] <azlon> what do i need to do when i try to install an app and i get the error: The package might be corrupted or you are not allowed to open the file. Check file permissions. (im pretty sure the file isnt corrupt
[14:29] <h1st0> neko_: if there are bugs with one of the updates i'm sure it will be fixed soon.
[14:29] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: I'll be here.
[14:29] <Rev_> hlst0 , i am blocking everyone pms (they need to ask before they pm_
[14:29] <deeeed> neko_, same... no update at work........
[14:29] <shredder> deeeed: look here for the solution 		        <include name="*.ddl"/>
[14:29] <shredder> aaagh.
[14:29] <shredder> deeeed: look here for the solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671020&highlight=eclipse
[14:29] <deeeed> shredder, ah thanks
[14:30] <h1st0> Rev_: okay well ubotu is a bot that was providing you with an answer to your question.
[14:30] <shredder> I was just glad I was not alone with that problem :)
[14:30] <neko_> shredder !
[14:30] <neko_> ALLELUYA !
[14:30] <neko_> thanks a lot
[14:30] <xomp> h1st0: that configuration manager bit works a treat, thanks!
[14:30] <xomp> now all I need is a nice kicker for gnome and I'll be set lol
[14:30] <Rev_> Anyway , but anyone know why i am haivng a problem with libc6-i376?
[14:30] <zackie_> psyfer or somethign you ther???[][][][][][][
[14:31] <h1st0> xomp: I think a lot of people use awn or something.  Look on the forums in the desktop effects section.  They're always discussing things like that.
[14:31] <deeeed> shredder, thanks ;) I restart x to test ;)
[14:31] <xomp> awesome :) Thanks h1st0
[14:31] <neko_> restarting aswell
[14:32] <zackie_> IF YOU WERE HELPIGN ME Please contact[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
[14:32] <tt_> Could anyone tell me if there is a way to REINSTALL all the lib32? (as i accenteelly copied /lib64 into /lib32)
[14:32] <shredder> not my solutions though, W.McL on the forum is the real helper.
[14:32] <DRebellion> !caps | zackie_
[14:32] <ubotu> zackie_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[14:32] <ikonia> ##!guidelines > zackie_
[14:32] <ikonia> !guidelines > zackie_
[14:33] <ikonia> zackie_: please read the guideline urls sent to you from ubotu
[14:33] <h1st0> tt_: well remove the lib64 and reinstall the package
[14:33] <zackie_> ikonia___there was a Chap that was helping me just trying to get his/her attention....
[14:33] <ikonia> zackie_: your going about it in a very bad way. Please read the guidelines
[14:33] <tt_> the problem i dont know all the lib64
[14:33] <ZionPsyfer> zackie_: I was the one helping you.
[14:34] <h1st0> tt_: dpkg can show you packages currently installed
[14:34] <deeeed> shredder,  yep it works ! ;)
[14:34] <tt_> Zion : i think its too late to ask for yout thanks :P
[14:34] <zackie_> zionpsyfer__sorry for all of that.. bad lam memroy i have.. mental isuuse i have heh.
[14:34] <tt_> hist0: i am only trying to find lib32 pkgs
[14:34] <ZionPsyfer> zackie_: Did that help at all?  does a test call let you hear yourself?
[14:35] <h1st0> tt_: dpkg -l | grep 32
[14:35] <tt_> thanks :)
[14:35] <h1st0> tt_: dpkg -l | grep lib32
[14:35] <zackie_> zionpsyfer___ doingit now
[14:35] <tt_> thanks again
[14:35] <h1st0> tt_: or something similiar i'm not quite sure what you are looking for.
[14:35] <h1st0> tt_: then you can just sudo apt-get reinstall <packagename>
[14:36] <tt_> thanks again , i allready know how to reinstall programs
[14:36] <azlon> where can i find drivers for my webcam?
[14:36] <erUSUL> !webcam
[14:36] <azlon> is there a resource database somewhere?
[14:36] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[14:36] <Lartza_> canät get dvd drive work. it doesn't open. in the middle of the boot (before grub) it opened when i pushed the opening button
[14:37] <ikonia> Lartza_: does it have a disc in ?
[14:37] <Lartza_> no, can't get one in because it won't open
[14:37] <ikonia> Lartza_: try "sudo ejet cdrom"
[14:37] <NigeyUK> or find a very thin sewing needle :)
[14:37] <erUSUL> Lartza_: sudo eject /dev/dvd
[14:38] <compwiz18> I think sudo eject works too
[14:38] <Lartza_> sudo eject cdrom ejects my other drive
[14:38] <erUSUL> Lartza_: or whichever the dev file it is
[14:38] <zackie_> zionpsyfer___ I heard meh own voice trying it out with a live user... brbiab (be right back in a bit)****
[14:38] <compwiz18> ah
[14:38] <h1st0> You shouldn't need sudo for an eject
[14:38] <ZionPsyfer> zackie_: Alright, and good luck with it it.
[14:39] <Lartza_> none worked or i don't know the dev name
[14:39] <compwiz18> h1st0: you're right -- didn't think about that
[14:39] <h1st0> Lartza_: just type eject
[14:39] <Lartza_> sudo eject cdrw
[14:39] <Lartza_> woops
[14:39] <h1st0> Lartza_: no sudo
[14:39] <partypants> Hi, I am brand new to Ubuntu, and I am having trouble with a wireless network driver for an HP530 notebook. Could anyone offer me some advice?
[14:39] <Lartza_> that should be on terminal :P
[14:40] <NigeyUK> ls /dev |grep dvd does it show anything ?
[14:40] <h1st0> !wifi > partypants,   partypants Read the private message from ubotu.
[14:40] <Lartza_> eject opens my burnind cd drive
[14:40] <Lartza_> not the dvd
[14:40] <partypants> will do
[14:40] <h1st0> Lartza_: is there a cd in it right now?
[14:40] <Lartza_> no
[14:40] <Lartza_> neither has
[14:40] <h1st0> Lartza_: eject /dev/dvd
[14:41] <Lartza_> no device dvd
[14:41] <h1st0> Lartza_: eject /dev/dvdrw
[14:41] <Lartza_> in dvd
[14:41] <ZionPsyfer> partypants: Try these two links:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=502833&highlight=hp+530   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-489559.html
[14:41] <Lartza_> its not burning dvd and still didnt work
[14:41] <ZionPsyfer> partypants: They look like they're along the lines of what you're looking for.
[14:41] <cyzie> where does firefox store the flash file?
[14:42] <Lartza_> is there way to see if that device is even running?
[14:42] <h1st0> Lartza_: if there is no media in it its not running
[14:42] <NigeyUK> Lartza_, try eject -n and paste the output here
[14:42] <Lartza_> eject: device is "/dev/hdc"
[14:43] <zackie_> zionpsyfer___ they can sort of hear me but i'm really quiet they say...
[14:43] <yabuk> I'm trying to use sound in blender, but it don't works here in my ubuntu, it just works in Rwindows. I get Error: libGL.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, does anyone here know how to fix it?
[14:43] <BoltClock> could anyone help me with my graphics card driver problems? i have an onboard nvidia geforce7100 card, just installed gutsy a few hours ago and then the proprietary driver. now ubuntu cant start unless its in low gfx mode
[14:43] <spite> Anyone have pulse + jack + wine working?
[14:44] <spite> on 64bit gutsy
[14:44] <Lartza_> eject
[14:44] <Lartza_> sorru
[14:44] <Lartza_> please help me on this
[14:44] <Lartza_> how to get dvd drive working?
[14:44] <ZionPsyfer> zackie_: So it's a volume thing.  Double check the volume control by your clock.  I'll double check skype for volume controls though I didn't see any besides the 'allow skype to adjust my mixer levels' checkbox. You may want to try toggling that to see if it helps.
[14:45] <h1st0> Lartza_: so the button on the dvd drive doesn't work?
[14:45] <Lartza_> no
[14:45] <Lartza_> and yes
[14:45] <h1st0> ?
[14:45] <jrattner1> Question: Why when I run a command with sudo do I get this error: sudo: unable to lookup dovertubular.com via gethostbyname()
[14:45] <spite> Is ther ea disc in the drive?
[14:45] <Lartza_> it opened when i pushed button before grub
[14:46] <Lartza_> then i closed it logged in and nothing happens from button
[14:46] <h1st0> Lartza_: is there a cd in it?
[14:46] <tt_> Isn't their any web browser thats not using lib32 ? (I'd like to get things working and i can't because i cant use firefox or any others)
[14:46] <Lartza_> no
[14:46] <stf> Seveas: thanks, removing vga=791 worked.
[14:46] <spite> Is that the only disc drive in the PC?
[14:46] <Lartza_> spite: no
[14:46] <karl> any one know how to set my HDD to power down on gutsy server?  It never powers down except on reboot and the counts from SMART reflect that.  My BIOS is set to power it down after 20 min.
[14:47] <spite> They both show up in the computer window?
[14:47] <Lartza_> spite: where?
[14:47] <spite> Places -> Computer I think it is
[14:48] <Lartza_> running xubuntu so can't get to one i think
[14:48] <spite> If you're running gnome anyway
[14:48] <spite> ah
[14:48] <spite> look in /media
[14:48] <Lartza_> i still got to computer
[14:48] <kane77> can I generate text from directory hierarchy? something like list of hierarchy...
[14:48] <Lartza_> found it from xubuntu
[14:48] <palvarez> hello
[14:48] <spite> Can you right click and click eject?
[14:49] <Lartza_> only in my wriing cd drive
[14:49] <spite> kane find . > file ?
[14:49] <spite> But you see both of them there?
[14:49] <Lartza_> it show another drive named CD 1 and it can't be ejected
[14:49] <zackie> okay okay hit me up to who was helping me?[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]][][][][]][][]
[14:49] <palvarez> I got a problem with desktop effects, it makes my windows have no borders
[14:50] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: I was.
[14:50] <kane77> spite, thanx. that'll work..
[14:50] <Rei-chan> Why does zackie have []s at the end of is sentiences?
[14:50] <capricorn2812> what command logout gnome session?
[14:50] <spite> Lartza_ what kind of drive is it? DVD, DVD-RW?
[14:50] <Lartza_> dvd
[14:50] <Lartza_> i can see the properties window too
[14:50] <spite> Does ubuntu need to set scsi emulation on dvd drives in grub? I'm not too familiar with ubuntu yet
[14:51] <jrattner1> Question: Why when I run a command with sudo do I get this error: sudo: unable to lookup dovertubular.com via gethostbyname()
[14:51] <Pici> jrattner1: Did you recently change your hostname?
[14:51] <DRebellion> jrattner1: which command?
[14:51] <Pici> !hostname | jrattner1
[14:51] <ubotu> jrattner1: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[14:51] <jrattner1> Pici, i dont think so...but i was messing around with some stuff recently
[14:51] <Lartza_> it shows properties but not information about drive manufacturer etc.
[14:51] <spite> Lartza does all that show up in BIOS?
[14:51] <Pici> jrattner1: Double check the settings ubotu mentioned above.
[14:52] <jrattner1> Pici, thanks brb
[14:52] <spite> also dnsdomainname
[14:52] <maarten_> can someone tell me if http://irc-guide.de/wiki/Main/ShroudBNCInstallation is possible? i can't do make it gives make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[14:52] <BoltClock> could anyone else help me with my graphics card driver problems? i have an onboard nvidia geforce7100 card, just installed gutsy a few hours ago and then the proprietary driver. now ubuntu cant start unless its in low gfx mode.
[14:52] <jrattner1> Pici, they do not match do you recomend I use the GUI to remedy this issue
[14:52] <spite> maarten_ ls |grep Makefile
[14:52] <spite> do you see a make file?
[14:53] <spite> and did ./configure work?
[14:53] <porkpie> guy's can you tell me if this mean ppp_mppe is enabled http://pastebin.com/m7a6e73ab
[14:53] <maarten_> yes
[14:53] <Pici> jrattner1: If you have it installed, sure.  If not, you may need to boot from a live-cd and modify those files.
[14:53] <maarten_> ./configure worked
[14:53] <maarten_> but the make didn't
[14:53] <spite> It instantly complained about no targets/
[14:53] <spite> or did it compile something before
[14:53] <dgjones> BoltClock, not sure how much I can help, but can you put a copy of your xorg.conf file into pastebin? Maybe something in that will jump out
[14:53] <maarten_> instantly
[14:53] <spite> Look around and try to find a Makefile in the directory structure
[14:54] <karl> where can i set my hdd power down setttings?  the bios settings dont seem to have an effect, is the OS periodically touching the hdd?
[14:54] <BoltClock> oh hi again dgjones :) ill do that now
[14:54] <spite> and look at your configure output for errors
[14:54] <spite> sounds like it didn't generate the Makefile
[14:54] <jrattner1> Pichu0102, when I type hostname i get back: dovertubular.com  but in /etc/hosts I see this line: 127.0.1.1       DoverTubular.lan        DoverTubular....should i just change the DoverTubular at the end to dovertubular.com?
[14:54] <maarten_> there is a makefile.in
[14:54] <maarten_> in the main folder
[14:54] <Pici> jrattner1: yes.
[14:55] <jrattner1> Pici thank you
[14:55] <Lartza_> does ubuntu need scsi emulation for dvd drives?
[14:55] <frojnd> How can I get the nane of computer's IP 193.2.1.87 ?
[14:55] <cE_cRi_tMn> dddsd
[14:55] <jrattner1> Pici, should I change DoverTubular.lan to dovertubular.lan aswell?
[14:55] <spite> check you rconfigure output again for errors
[14:55] <cE_cRi_tMn> hihihihihihihi'
[14:55] <cE_cRi_tMn> tonk diajar ngentot nya
[14:55] <Pici> jrattner1: dns names are not case-sensitive.
[14:55] <spite> jrattner1 I don't think hostnames are case sensitive in linux
[14:55] <cE_cRi_tMn> soalna bakalan beki goblok pek
[14:55] <erUSUL> Lartza_: no afaics
[14:55] <Pici> !id | cE_cRi_tMn
[14:55] <ubotu> cE_cRi_tMn: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[14:55] <cE_cRi_tMn> jid
[14:56] <Jay-Oh-En> every time i try to remove java5 it gives me a error
[14:56] <bazhang> hi cE_cRi_tMn this is an english channel
[14:56] <cE_cRi_tMn> kumaha
[14:56] <jrattner1> Pici, thanks for the help I appreciate it...im gonna reboot
[14:56] <maarten_> weird the makefile is in place, however it Make is not working
[14:56] <jrattner1> spite, thanks as well
[14:56] <cE_cRi_tMn> abditeh sunda asli
[14:56] <spite> No problem
[14:56] <Pici> cE_cRi_tMn: Only english here.
[14:56] <cE_cRi_tMn> naon maksudna
[14:56] <spite> maarten_ Makefile not makefile.in
[14:56] <bazhang> uh oh
[14:56] <cE_cRi_tMn> oh sorry
[14:56] <Lartza_> :( still can't get the drive work
[14:56] <cyzie> where does firefox store the flash file?
[14:56] <Pici> Ooops, too slow.
[14:57] <Pici> cyzie: What flash file?
[14:57] <spite> This channel is too fast for me
[14:57] <maarten_> nope just the file makefile.in
[14:57] <maarten_> no others
[14:57] <karl> my computer speaker randomly beeps.  which logs should i check for messages?
[14:57] <erUSUL> Lartza_: post your dmesg to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[14:57] <spite> look in scripts/
[14:57] <frojnd> ok, how can I check what connections are opend for 193.2.1.87 ?
[14:57] <Pici> frojnd: netstat -tanp | grep 193.2.1.87
[14:57] <erUSUL> frojnd: netstat -putan | grep 193.2.1.87
[14:58] <DENTiST> selam
[14:58] <maarten_> no makefile
[14:58] <Jay-Oh-En> i installed java from java.com and now i cant remove any of the javas and it gives me an error
[14:58] <zackie> Again who was it ? {}{}{}}{}{}{}{}{}{}{][][][][][}{}{}{}?
[14:59] <simion314> can someone help me me build install a driver? i have the instructions but the directory structure from the instructions do not match  the ubuntu structure, i am afraid of breaking the system
[14:59] <Lartza_> erUSUL: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52421/
[14:59] <spite> So I'm checking up on shroudbnc, the configure does create the makefile
[14:59] <spite> there must be errors in there
[14:59] <h1st0> simion314: what driver are you trying to biuld?
[15:00] <erUSUL> zackie: the point is what the *** is this i quote  « {}{}{}}{}{}{}{}{}{}{][][][][][}{}{}{}? » ???
[15:00] <twans> who do I complain to about flash 9 being broken in linux.. still ?
[15:00] <spite> What's broken?
[15:00] <BoltClock> dgjones: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52422
[15:00] <ikonia> twans: no-one
[15:00] <simion314> h1st0: for my sound card
[15:00] <spite> oh the package?
[15:00] <Pici> !flashissues | twans
[15:00] <ubotu> twans: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[15:00] <LjL> twans: not us ;)
[15:00] <ikonia> twans: it is a known bug and being resolved
[15:00] <dgjones> BoltClock, i'll have a look now
[15:00] <spite> it was easy enough to get working from those instructions
[15:00] <twans> thanks fellers
[15:00] <spite> Any of you guys running an M-Audio soundcard?
[15:01] <spite> Like the audiophile
[15:01] <erUSUL> Lartza_: sudo eject /dev/hdc failed? error msg?
[15:01] <fismoll8> hey all
[15:01] <fismoll8> trying to install geany 0.12 from source
[15:01] <fismoll8> when I run ./configure, I get checking for GTK... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6.0) were not met:
[15:01] <fismoll8> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[15:01] <fismoll8> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[15:01] <fismoll8> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[15:01] <maarten_> i think i found the problem error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[15:02] <maarten_> how to solve this one?
[15:02] <h1st0> fismoll8: install build-essentials
[15:02] <lui_G> !de
[15:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:02] <Lartza_> erUSUL: no erro, opens my cdrw drive
[15:02] <fismoll8> h1st0: I already did
[15:02] <fismoll8> would it make sense to remove it then reinstall
[15:02] <h1st0> fismoll8: what version of gtk do you have?
[15:02] <cyzie> Pici, some game file
[15:02] <fismoll8> I use gutsy, so 2.0+ is embedded in it
[15:02] <Pici> cyzie: I think firefox stores its temp files in /tmp/
[15:03] <cyzie> Pici, i search though
[15:03] <cyzie> none found
[15:03] <BoltClock> dgjones: is it normal that those wacom component sections are there? i dont own a wacom tablet
[15:03] <B-rabbit> hi everybody :)
[15:03] <dgjones> BoltClock, yes, mine i think it almost always includes wacom whether you've got one or not
[15:03] <spite> Usually a touchpad too if I'm not mistaken
[15:04] <erUSUL> Lartza_: that's the only drive i see recognized on the dmesg. Are you sure the dvd is well plugged (ide and power)
[15:04] <h1st0> fismoll8: you know geany is in the repos right?
[15:04] <BoltClock> dgjones: ok. so is there anything significant about my xorg.conf?
[15:04] <spite> And jumpers are set and BIOS recognizes it fine
[15:04] <simion314> h1st0: here are the instructions but the /usr/src/linux do not exists, are other 2 folders and no sound folder in /usr/src/linux..headers/drivers http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52419/
[15:04] <Lartza_> not 100% sure
[15:04] <spite> Make it work in BIOS before linux
[15:04] <erUSUL> Lartza_: hda and hdb are hard disk the only optical drive is hdc: PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1610A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[15:04] <h1st0> simion314: /usr/src/linux is usually just a symlink
[15:04] <erUSUL> Lartza_: so the other drive is not detected for some reason
[15:04] <Forsakensoul> how do i install the restricted codecs ...
[15:04] <Forsakensoul> ?
[15:04] <Lartza_> BUT
[15:04] <h1st0> simion314: what are you trying to build?
[15:05] <DRebellion> !restricted | Forsakensoul
[15:05] <ubotu> Forsakensoul: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:05] <Lartza_> if they both are under hdc
[15:05] <Lartza_> plextor isn't dvd
[15:05] <spite> Lartza_ Did you just buy/install the drive?
[15:05] <Kakarotto> why when i type hda: and then press <enter> i can't change to that drive?
[15:05] <spite> Check the jumpers
[15:05] <simion314> h1st0: a sound driver
[15:05] <dgjones> BoltClock, are you using the restricted driver?, i remember that was mentioned, and I can see that you're using the "nv" driver rather than the "nvidia" which I'd have expected for the restricted driver
[15:05] <komputes> how do you avoid a machine making a hardware beep?
[15:05] <GottesDiener> hi, how can I under Gnome resize window with Alt + right-Mouse-click + move like kde? anybody have an idea?
[15:05] <spite> Kakarotto http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html
[15:06] <DRebellion> Kakarotto: i suppose the way in windows would be c:, d: etc. however linux uses a different filesystem where everything is contained under /
[15:06] <dgjones> BoltClock, also, what make is your monitor, do you know what the specifications of it are?
[15:06] <Lartza_> spite: just installed
[15:06] <partypants> I think I found the right driver for this wireless card, but I have no idea how to install it.
[15:06] <BoltClock> yes, im using the restricted driver listed by ubuntu
[15:06] <twans> komputes: unplug the speaker thats connected to the mobo ;D
[15:06] <BoltClock> what do you mean by make?
[15:06] <komputes> everytime i press tab in the terminal and i made a mistake i get a loud hardware beep, any way to tell it to software beep,....
[15:06] <spite> Lartza_ double check the jumpers, connect the drive, go into BIOS and see if it's listed
[15:06] <BoltClock> and what specs should i mention?
[15:06] <erawfish> komputes: there are no driveletters under linux
[15:06] <omri> anyone have idea after sometime icant see video only green lines and if i restart xserver it works?
[15:06] <erawfish> and you can't use devicefiles as normal dirctories either
[15:06] <erawfish> Kakarotto: ^^
[15:06] <komputes> twans: thats not an option, it is needed for recovery mode
[15:06] <dgjones> BoltClock, the manufacturer and model number, I want to look at what the HorizSync and VertRefresh settings should be
[15:07] <erawfish> komputes: beep where exactly?
[15:07] <Kakarotto> DRebellion,spite: i'm sorry i was joking, thanks! :P..
[15:07] <erUSUL> Lartza_: only one drive for each device file and viceversa
[15:07] <spite> also http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/dirs.html
[15:07] <Kakarotto> erawfish: hi
[15:07] <AudioGarf> Hi! I cannot remove a broken package, even if I do a sudo dpkg -P --force-all 'package'
[15:07] <spite> haha
[15:07] <spite> I'm trying to keep up in here
[15:07] <komputes> erawfish: drive letters? what did I say about drive letters? I'm talking about audio!
[15:07] <Kakarotto> what time is it ?
[15:07] <h1st0> simion314: are you sure someone hasn't already built the driver?
[15:07] <Lartza_> jow is my cdrw ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive then?
[15:07] <BoltClock> dgjones: i only know LG made it
[15:07] <tzd> does anyone know if it's possible for uTorrent to write to ext3 hdds? I'm using it via wine?
[15:07] <Lartza_> how not jow
[15:07] <spite> tzd yes
[15:07] <partypants> Does anyone have step-by-step instructions of how to properly install a driver?
[15:07] <DRebellion> Fri Jan 18 15:07:59 GMT 2008
[15:08] <tzd> spite: great thanks!
[15:08] <spite> If its mounted in the host and you have permissions you can browse to it
[15:08] <h1st0> AudioGarf: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename
[15:08] <spite> At least for most wine apps that's the case
[15:08] <erawfish> partypants: depends very much on the driver and type of hardware
[15:08] <twans> komputes: type xset b off in a terminal window
[15:08] <twans> it'll turn the bell off.
[15:08] <spite> You could also symlink in your wine drive directory out to another and use that
[15:08] <Kakarotto> GottesDiener: as far as I remember, with compiz you just can
[15:08] <partypants> Would you maybe be able to get me started on it?
[15:08] <simion314> h1st0: no, but the driver from ubuntu hangs my computer after a time
[15:08] <ikonia> tzd nope, unless you use a windows ext2 driver
[15:08] <Kakarotto> GottesDiener: indeed I'm able to resize with alt right now
[15:08] <spite> ;o
[15:08] <BoltClock> dgjones: my store receipt says LG L226WTQ-BF 22" WIDE
[15:08] <komputes> erawfish: you know the small speaker integrated or connected to most motherboards, thats the hardware beep, it's very limited but loud to tell you theres an error
[15:08] <spite> ikonia he's running it in wine
[15:08] <Kakarotto> GottesDiener: I mean.. alt for move, middle-button for resizing
[15:09] <h1st0> simion314: hrm.. I would just search the forums for your card I'm sure someone has resolved it.
[15:09] <ikonia> spite: oooh, I thought he said vm
[15:09] <GottesDiener> Kakarotto, I use compiz, but where can I configure this?
[15:09] <tzd> ikonia: huuh lifesaver there, almost one my way to format my old ntfs drive :D
[15:09] <komputes> twans "xset b off" you say?
[15:09] <NigeyUK> komputes,  just disable it in the audio mixer :)
[15:09] <BoltClock> dgjones: WIDESCREEN LCD DVI*
[15:09] <h1st0> simion314: and will be able to provide better direction
[15:09] <BoltClock> there you go
[15:09] <AudioGarf> h1st0: doesn't work: "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[15:09] <NigeyUK> disable / mute
[15:09] <Lartza_> erUSUL: where should my jumper be?
[15:09] <tzd> ikonia: opsie, got it :)
[15:09] <GottesDiener> Kakarotto, rightt :)
[15:09] <Kakarotto> komputes: you know a lot of years ago there was a program that was able to play music in the "beep" speaker...
[15:09] <komputes> NigeyUK: Whats it called in the mixer/audio settings?
[15:09] <h1st0> Lartza_: in between the ide cable and power cable.
[15:09] <twans> komputes: yes- that is correct if you're in an X session already. If you're in console mode instead type: setterm -blength 0
[15:09] <NigeyUK> pc speaker
[15:09] <GottesDiener> Kakarotto, I never tried with the middle button :)
[15:09] <komputes> Kakarotto: 8 bit music, lovely
[15:09] <h1st0> Lartza_: on the back of the dvd drive.
[15:10] <Kakarotto> GottesDiener: dit it work? :P
[15:10] <GottesDiener> Kakarotto, yes thanks
[15:10] <h1st0> Lartza_: if you just installed it you can only have one masterand one slave on a cable.
[15:10] <simion314> h1st0: thx
[15:10] <Lartza_> not taht way, when i should put master and when slave?
[15:10] <h1st0> AudioGarf: is this a third party package?
[15:10] <AudioGarf> yep
[15:10] <GottesDiener> Kakarotto, can i change this under compiz?
[15:10] <tzd> spite: so if i have rss enabled downloads in uTorrent that saves to dir X on my old NTFS drive... Is it just to specify (inside uTorrent) a new folder on an ext3 partition?
[15:10] <Kakarotto> komputes: it sounded very slow and very bad quality, but it was listenable, and I'm talking of 1995 nearby
[15:10] <h1st0> Lartza_: what else is on the ide cable?
[15:10] <erUSUL> Lartza_: you have the two optical drives on the same ide cable? if so check that both have their jumpers set to cable select or that one is master and the other slave
[15:10] <AudioGarf> h1st0: yes it is
[15:10] <dasdajs> hi, is there a working guide for ventrilo 3.0 on ubuntu?
[15:11] <Lartza_> cable select is recommended?
[15:11] <erUSUL> Lartza_: also check power connectors etc
[15:11] <komputes> Kakarotto: reminiscing is fun ain't it
[15:11] <NigeyUK> didnt the C64 use the internal speaker ?
[15:11] <Kakarotto> GottesDiener: get to the compiz manager and then look at the windows section
[15:11] <GottesDiener> Kakarotto, cuz I have a scroll buttona nd it's not so comfartable to resize windows with it
[15:11] <h1st0> AudioGarf: you may have to ask the package mantainer then .
[15:11] <GottesDiener> Kakarotto, thanks bru ;)
[15:11] <Lartza_> is gets power
[15:11] <Lartza_> not sure if fully but enough to open
[15:11] <h1st0> dasdajs: the client?
[15:11] <AudioGarf> h1st0: ok, I will
[15:11] <dasdajs> h1st0 yes
[15:11] <Lartza_> it opened before grub was loaded
[15:11] <h1st0> Lartza_: its probably a jumper issue if you just installed it.
[15:11] <xobius> Anybody have installed ubuntu 7.10 in MSI  P6NGM with Nvidia Gforce MCP73 chipset?
[15:11] <erUSUL> Lartza_: also as other said check if they are recogniced in the bios
[15:11] <h1st0> dasdajs: check appdb.windhq.org
[15:12] <erawfish> Kakarotto: I know what speaker and beep you mean
[15:12] <erawfish> komputes:
[15:12] <erawfish> but I asked something else
[15:12] <Kakarotto> GottesDiener: me too, but isn't that bad anyway
[15:12] <h1st0> !anybody | xobius
[15:12] <ubotu> xobius: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[15:12] <Kakarotto> komputes: did you know the program I say?
[15:12] <dasdajs> h1st0 wrong link? :S
[15:12] <dgjones> BoltClock, right, that part looks ok, did you install the restricted driver? with it saying you're using "nv", that would suggest that you're not using it
[15:12] <h1st0> dasdajs: appdb.wine-hq.org
[15:12] <dasdajs> oke :)
[15:13] <BoltClock> dgjones: the restricted driver is enabled right now
[15:13] <komputes> NigeyUK: twans : erawfish : Kakarotto : Do you know how to do turn off the beep mini-speaker in the GUI through the audio mixer?
[15:13] <h1st0> dasdajs: and search for the app you are trying to get working.  I don't think ventrillo has a linux client so you have to use wine.
[15:13] <h1st0> komputes: mute the pc speaker
[15:13] <komputes> I can do command line but some people are just lost when the see text only
[15:13] <twans> komputes: yeah but why do it the easy way? :)
[15:13] <BoltClock> dgjones: theres a whole lot of xorg.conf files i see here, some suffixed with 1, 2, 3, 4 and some with date/timestamp-like numbers
[15:13] <dgjones> BoltClock, that seems strange, I thought that for the restricted to work, it should be using the "nvidia" driver, not the "nv" one
[15:14] <dgjones> BoltClock, they're just older version I would think
[15:14] <komputes> h1st0: muting the speaker doesn't allow sound to come out, i need audio i don't need anoying loud hw beeps
[15:14] <komputes> twans: not for me, for the *upid ppl
[15:14] <xobius> I can't run ubuntu on Nvidia Gforce MCP73. It can't start X server
[15:14] <h1st0> komputes: ?
[15:14] <omri> i think they're the xork drivers the nv
[15:14] <komputes> h1st0: never mind
[15:14] <BoltClock> dgjones: what do you think i should do?
[15:14] <h1st0> komputes: so you're sound isn't working then?
[15:14] <DRebellion> xobius: any error messages?
[15:15] <omri> xorg*
[15:15] <komputes> h1st0: my sound is fine, certain apps call on the hardware beep which is anoying and loud
[15:15] <dgjones> BoltClock, give me a minute, which graphics card is it? nvidia 7 something
[15:15] <h1st0> !nvidia > xobius,   xobius Read the private message from ubotu.
[15:15] <partypants> I have an hp530 notebook, the wireless card is an Intel 3945ABG, and I am pretty sure I have downloaded the correct driver. I am new to this and the readme says something about editing the kernal, but it isn't step-by-step on how to do that. If anyone could help get me started I would very much appreciate it.
[15:15] <BoltClock> dgjones: geforce7100
[15:15] <h1st0> komputes: okay and if you mute the pc speaker you won't have those beeps
[15:15] <erawfish> komputes: WHICH apps?
[15:15] <bazhang> partypants: using gutsy?
[15:15] <BoltClock> 7100, this numbers completely in my head now
[15:15] <komputes> h1st0: you do know there a difference between your sound card/audio controller and the hardware beep which is a 8-bit limited speaker on the motherboard...
[15:16] <partypants> bazhang: yes
[15:16] <xobius> !nvidia
[15:16] <h1st0> komputes: yes
[15:16] <maiG6etab002> h1st0: about mute the pc speaker btw.... are there any way to tell ubuntu to play a nice wav-file (or other soundfile) with the normal speakers instead of beeping with builtin pc speaker?
[15:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:16] <erawfish> BoltClock: and what driver do you use?
[15:16] <h1st0> komputes: but do what you want don'[t listen
[15:16] <komputes> erawfish: terminal mostly when pressing tab on something that doesn't exist for example()
[15:16] <dgjones> BoltClock, ok, is there  a version as well, I can see a mention of a 7100GS
[15:16] <komputes> h1st0: I don't want the hardware beep
[15:16] <BoltClock> wait hold on - why is it disabled AGAIN?!
[15:16] <h1st0> komputes: Yeah I understand.
[15:16] <h1st0> komputes: you need to mute the pc speaker
[15:17] <partypants> komputes: desolder your MB speaker... lols
[15:17] <ro7761> komputes: sudo rmmod pcspkr
[15:17] <h1st0> komputes: not your speakers or soundcard
[15:17] <komputes> h1st0: now that i know how to turn it off in command line i was asking about turning it off graphically, for "simplified" users
[15:17] <twans> h1st0: he most likely doesn't have the option to mute PC Speaker in his mixer application
[15:17] <h1st0> komputes: double click the little speaker by the clock
[15:17] <komputes> partypants: lols indeed
[15:17] <shredder> partypants: why don't you just apt-get install the restricted modules?
[15:17] <h1st0> komputes: mute the pc speaker
[15:17] <twans> it's better to set it as a variable anyway
[15:17] <Xteven_> hi, any graphviz users around ? or maybe a channel ?
[15:17] <BoltClock> i enabled, restarted ubuntu, ubuntu prints five lines, blinks the screen three times, decides that it has to start in low gfx mode... and i think it goes on to disable the driver again
[15:17] <partypants> shredder: restricted modules?
[15:18] <twans> h1st0: not everyone uses gnome/kde or windows lawl
[15:18] <xobius> DRebellion, lspci did't reconized what card is
[15:18] <h1st0> twans: he's asking for the noob way to do it using his gui.
[15:18] <h1st0> twans: komputes and that would be using the mixer
[15:18] <shredder> partypants: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[15:18] <BoltClock> dgjones: i dont think theres a GS anywhere
[15:18] <h1st0> twans: komputes or he can use alsamixer
[15:18] <shredder> this includes the intel wireless driver
[15:18] <erawfish> BoltClock: what lines? what are the logs saying?
[15:18] <partypants> ok I will try that
[15:18] <partypants> thanks
[15:19] <komputes> h1st0: PC speaker muted works, thanks...
[15:19] <BoltClock> erawfish: it refreshes too fast for me to take note of the lines... and how do i get to the logs?
[15:19] <maiG6etab002> komputes, if you don't want the hardware beep, I dont think muting it helps. but you can set it to not beep at all under Sound-settings
[15:19] <Lr5_> Anyone knows if there's any way to make sound in youtube videos louder?
[15:19] <maiG6etab002> or blink screen instad
[15:19] <Lr5_> Using the nonfree flash
[15:19] <kalet> hi
[15:20] <erawfish> BoltClock: by checking your Xorg.0.log
[15:20] <komputes> maiG6etab002: what is sound settings? you mean "System>preferences>Sound"?
[15:20] <BoltClock> erawfish: where do i find it? im in /etc/X11/
[15:20] <komputes> NigeyUK: twans : erawfish : Kakarotto : h1st0 : Thanks for all your help
[15:20] <partypants> shredder: E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules
[15:21] <BoltClock> erawfish: i remember that three of the five lines were 1) something about anacron 2) Checking battery state... [OK] 3) Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [OK]
[15:21] <maiG6etab002> komputes: yes, in the the last tab
[15:22] <dgjones> erawfish, just adding a bit of info, BoltClock's xorg is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52422/ running a nvidia 7100 with restricted drivers, but xorg shows "nv" as the driver, Nvidia says that the 7100GS is supported using the 100.14.11 driver
[15:22] <komputes> maiG6etab002: thanks, got it
[15:23] <partypants> Why would the linux-restricted-modules not be found?
[15:23] <maiG6etab002> komputes:  now I only wish it was possible to have all beeps translated to a nice "pling" or "kvack" instead
[15:23] <fx|RabBit> where do i have to mount a second hard disk to so that i see it in nautilus like roms and floppes?
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[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> partypants: You may not have the right sources enabled
[15:23] <kalet> whats brasilian iin the room
[15:23] <mexle> allo
[15:24] <omri> is there an option to revert nvidia drivers to an older version that was installed before?
[15:24] <shredder> partypants: hmmm if using 7.10 don't you have System->Administration->Restricted Drivers Manager?
[15:24] <fx|RabBit> where do i have to mount a second hard disk to so that i see it in nautilus like ROMs and floppies?
[15:24] <komputes> maiG6etab002: it does for me, if you mute the PC Speaker in the mixer settings. I take it pling or kvak are just custom wav/pcm file
[15:24] <mexle> bin wider da
[15:24] <partypants> shredder: yes i see that
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !br
[15:24] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[15:25] <fx|RabBit> where do i have to mount a second hard disk to, so that i see it in filebrowser like ROMs and floppies?
[15:25] <partypants> shredder: it seems to show the proper driver in there too.
[15:25] <komputes> fx|RabBit: tempotatily you can use /mnt or you can mount it like the system does by creating a dir in /media and mounting it there
[15:25] <partypants> and says it's in use
[15:25] <shredder> partypants: you can't enable it?
[15:25] <partypants> it is enabled
[15:26] <fx|RabBit> komputes: i mounted it to /media/RAID biut i dont see it in nautilus
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: What do you mean sees it like roms or floppies..
[15:26] <dfas> hi all I have a php script that does a shell_exec('bin/sh mysh.sh') it does work when I execute php -q phpscript.php from CLI but it does not work when I call this script on apache from a webbrowser any ideas ? I did a chmod a+x mysh.sh
[15:26] <partypants> I'm going to try using the wifi again
[15:26] <komputes> fx|RabBit: what line did you use to mount is
[15:26] <maiG6etab002> komputes, hmm where do I set what wav/pcm file to play as default beep?
[15:26] <bazhang> partypants: that is the best supported card around today
[15:26] <komputes> fx|RabBit: what line did you use to mount it
[15:26] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: in nautilus you see your ROMs and NETworkdrives and so on in the left window part...
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: If properly mounted in /media there should be an icon on your desktop as well
[15:27] <komputes> maiG6etab002: in the advanced sound setting i believe
[15:27] <fx|RabBit> komputes: i added it to fstab and mountet it by mount /dev/sdb1
[15:27] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: i  dont have that one either
[15:27] <maiG6etab002> ok... I look there... must restart now.....
[15:27] <partypants> bazhang: Well perhaps I'm stupid or something, and it isn't a driver issue.
[15:27] <komputes> if it's in fstab just do a "mount -a"
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: Did you create the mount point
[15:27] <fx|RabBit> yes
[15:27] <bazhang> partypants: not at all; getting wireless going can be a challenge at first
[15:28] <fx|RabBit> the disk is there in /media/RAID i can access it its just not there in nautilus and desktop
[15:28] <maiG6etab002> anyone here now that have a clue about fullscreen games jumps to window-mode and back just by itself?
[15:28] <partypants> How would I do the equivilent of ipconfig?
[15:28] <omri> how do i rollback a driver for an older version please?
[15:28] <Pici> partypants: ifconfig
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: please pastebin your fstab for others to review.. and provide us with only the link for it
[15:28] <bazhang> ifconfig partypants
[15:28] <partypants> thanks
[15:28] <komputes> fx|RabBit: otherwise do it manually: mkdir /media/mydisk;mount /dev/yourdevicehere /media/mydisk
[15:28] <partypants> and is there a hot key for the terminal?
[15:28] <bazhang> and iwconfig to set the parameters partypants
[15:28] <BoltClock> dgjones, erawfish: figured anything out yet?
[15:28] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: just a sec pls...
[15:28] <h1st0> partypants: ifocnfig
[15:29] <h1st0> partypants: ifconfig sry for the typo
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> komputes: Thanks for looking after him/them
[15:29] <partypants> no problem
[15:29] <partypants> thanks for being helpful everyone
[15:29] <h1st0> partypants: you can make a hotkey under system > preferences
[15:29] <fx|RabBit> komputes: as i said it is basically there it just dont shows...
[15:30] <h1st0> partypants: or you can hit ctrl+alt+f1 through f6 to get to terminals ctrl+alt+f7 will bring you back to gui
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> partypants: you mean something like ctrl-alt F2
[15:30] <dgjones> BoltClock, I can't think of anything else, seems like there has been a problem with that card, and the solutions aren't good ones to do
[15:30] <bazhang> partypants: you can sudo dhclient if your card sees the AP
[15:30] <komputes> fx|RabBit: what type of partition is it?
[15:30] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: here we go
[15:30] <fx|RabBit> http://www.nopaste.org/p/a0wfPSmWb
[15:30] <fx|RabBit> ext3 primary one
[15:31] <TheLynx> heh. when choosing subpixel smoothing in system -> preferences -> appearance. the red fonts gets almost unreadable in a terminal window. guess grayscale smoothing is better
[15:31] <Lartza_> how can i see ubuntu bootlog?
[15:31] <fx|RabBit> komputes: ext3 primaryone
[15:31] <Lartza_> or is there one?
[15:31] <komputes> fx|RabBit: what type of file system is the one you are trying to mount?
[15:31] <fx|RabBit> komputes:  as i said ext3
[15:31] <bkar> Lartza_-> typically logs are in /var/log
[15:31] <BoltClock> dgjones: yeah ive read on the forums about lots of people having problems with nvidia 7100 cards ><
[15:31] <maiG6etab002> another question before I leave.... when forcing nvidia 3d drivers to go live without reboot, I had to copy a .ko -file and run some commands before pressing ctrl-alt-backspace, are there similiar things that have to be done with ATI 3d graphics?
[15:31] <dgjones> BoltClock, You might get a better response in here now as the day is going on and there's more people in the US online, maybe keep asking every so often, Nvidia is normally straight forward sertting up, so I don't know why this one is such a pain
[15:32] <Lartza_> but what is bootlog?
[15:32] <komputes> maiG6etab002: system->preferences->sound i think if you replace the error sound you can customize it to whatever
[15:32] <komputes> Jack_Sparrow: gtg, brb can you look after <fx|RabBit>
[15:32] <Lartza_> where i can see what ubuntu does in boot after grub loads it
[15:32] <BoltClock> dgjones: 1266 people in room, a few hours ago around 1200... its 11:30 pm here in Singapore :)
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: The question I have is.. Is it a raid or is that just the name.
[15:32] <h1st0> Lartza_: dmesg
[15:32] <h1st0> Lartza_: dmesg | more
[15:32] <patogen> I wonder if there is a way to get openbox to handle open applications like Amiga did? That it puts icons on the desktop instead of a taskbar ...
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> komputes: Will do...  thanks
[15:33] <h1st0> Lartza_: or you can hit alt+f1 while its booting to see
[15:33] <Lartza_> Oh! dmesg
[15:33] <bkar> Lartza_-> did you even visited the directory i suggested?
[15:33] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: oh sry :D no it will be a RAID one day, atm its just a single disk
[15:33] <Lartza_> yes
[15:33] <bkar> !response| Lartza_
[15:33] <ubotu> Lartza_: response is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses
[15:33] <bkar> !respond | Lartza_
[15:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about respond - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:34] <erawfish> BoltClock: why do you expect to run nvidia when yourg xorg.conf says nv?
[15:34] <BoltClock> erawfish: o.o?
[15:34] <maiG6etab002> btw, is it possible to turn of the booting-progressbar-graphics completly? so I allways see the text
[15:34] <BoltClock> here the driver has been disabled again and i dont know why
[15:34] <dgjones> BoltClock, I'd still give it another try and see if anybody can help, if not have a rest overnight and try again tomorrow
[15:34] <patogen> maiG6etab002: Yes. Wait a sec and I'll find the settings
[15:35] <erawfish> BoltClock: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52422/ at line 65 clearly says "nv"
[15:35] <h1st0> Lartza_: actually that may not be it
[15:35] <patogen> If you use grub (standard) it's /etc/grub something you should edit
[15:35] <BoltClock> dgjones: im going pretty late
[15:35] <BoltClock> erawfish: i noticed
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: That looks ok.. but I am just waking up.. two things I would check is the mount point ..in caps and your sudo fdisk -l
[15:35] <Lartza_> dmesg? i noticed that some eror messages were missin on dmesg
[15:35] <partypants> Hmm, my wireless says it is connected 99% strength, but it is showing 6700 reception errors and climbing.
[15:35] <erawfish> BoltClock: then how about fixing it?
[15:35] <dgjones> BoltClock, another thing I've just noticed is that there's no screen display settings in your xorg.conf
[15:36] <partypants> And I cannot access the web.
[15:36] <h1st0> Lartza_: yeah you have to enable bootlogd
[15:36] <BoltClock> erawfish: fixing?
[15:36] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: right away, mom pls...
[15:36] <erawfish> dgjones: it will use read-edid and use what's approriate probably
[15:36] <h1st0> Lartza_: sudo gedit /etc/default/bootlogd
[15:36] <erawfish> BoltClock: yes fixing. actually using the nvidia driver
[15:36] <BoltClock> dgjones: you mean no Display subsection under Screen section? it used to be there until i sought help here
[15:36] <Lartza_> i dont have bootlogd installed
[15:36] <h1st0> Lartza_: and change the line BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=No to BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes
[15:37] <h1st0> Lartza_: then you can restart and check the /var/log/boot file
[15:37] <pkundu> in my laptop SMART is giving error at boot time. how do scan for hdd errors from ubuntu
[15:37] <dgjones> erawfish, i'd just never seen one without any settings
[15:37] <BoltClock> erawfish: i turn the driver on, restart ubuntu, those five lines appear again, i check back here and the driver is off again
[15:37] <dgjones> BoltClock, thats what I meant
[15:37] <erawfish> dgjones: newer X runs without xorg.conf
[15:37] <h1st0> Lartza_: its installed by default
[15:37] <h1st0> Lartza_: just not running
[15:37] <erawfish> BoltClock: WHAT lines?
[15:37] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: fdisck -l looks proper:
[15:37] <fx|RabBit> http://www.nopaste.org/p/aGkZfdXOpb
[15:37] <dgjones> erawfish, right, I'll have to look at mine on this laptop, something i hadn't seen before
[15:37] <Lartza_> so i dont need to install sysvinit
[15:38] <asc> Can anybody explain why running "su asc -c xinit &" returns "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting."  but "su asc -c xinit" does work?
[15:38] <Lartza_> how do i get my dvd drive work?
[15:38] <Lartza_> freezes on ubuntu boot
[15:38] <h1st0> Lartza_: did you just install this drive?
[15:38] <Lartza_> yes
[15:38] <BoltClock> erawfish: i cant find Xorg.0.log, you told me to look in there
[15:38] <ZionPsyfer> pkundu:  try the smartmontools package
[15:38] <h1st0> Lartza_: then you need to fix the jumpers on the back of it.
[15:38] <h1st0> Lartza_: what else is on the ide cable for the dvd drive?
[15:38] <BoltClock> erawfish: i know there was one about anacron and another about boot scripts
[15:38] <somestupidnewbie> When i open a window, it opens at what appears to be (0,0) which is behind my launch bar. How can I alter that?
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: Agreed
[15:39] <Lartza_> i have jumper on right
[15:39] <pkundu> ZionPsyfer, thanks
[15:39] <Lartza_> i mean direction right
[15:39] <h1st0> Lartza_: what else is on the same cable?
[15:39] <Lartza_> not opposite of wrong
[15:39] <Lartza_> umm...
[15:39] <h1st0> Lartza_: the same ide cable the grey one.
[15:39] <Lartza_> one burning cd drive
[15:40] <ZionPsyfer> pkundu: np.  the command to use will be 'smartctl' the man page is pretty short and sweet.  -a /dev/drive will most likely be all you need.
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: What does it show if you simply type mount in terminal
[15:40] <Lartza_> im not sure about the cdrw's jumper
[15:40] <BoltClock> erawfish: let me restart ubuntu again and ill take note of the lines that it prints when starting
[15:40] <BoltClock> brb
[15:40] <sumaiwa> DE QUE TRATA SU TEMA
[15:40] <h1st0> Lartza_: okay well check the jumper on the cd drive and see if its set for master slave or cable select
[15:40] <Lartza_> cables from power are on way
[15:40] <hanophix33> i cannot enable my desktop effects
[15:40] <Lartza_> lemme get a flashlight
[15:40] <steff> steff
[15:41] <snowbird> i have  a modem  trouble
[15:41] <Lartza_> bot are on right
[15:41] <hanophix33> my video card is using a generic vesa driver
[15:41] <VSpike> Lartza_: try unplugging the other drive and if it wil boot
[15:41] <h1st0> Lartza_: well being on the right doesn't really help me much
[15:41] <h1st0> VSpike: thats not his problem.
[15:41] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: can it be that i have to chmod that /media/raid dir???
[15:41] <Lartza_> ive heard right is usually cable select
[15:41] <snowbird> i  cant   query modem
[15:41] <h1st0> Lartza_: Well there are stickers on top of the drives that should have a diagram of which position is what.
[15:42] <Lartza_> not in this
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: You can try gksudo nautilus
[15:42] <Lartza_> some doesnt have
[15:42] <h1st0> Lartza_: then they will have text by the jumper saying like MA SL CS
[15:42] <somestupidnewbie> where can i alter the default location of a new window
[15:42] <hanophix33> can someone help me with enabling desktop effects?
[15:42] <Lartza_> sticker but no jumper info on it
[15:42] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: sec pls
[15:42] <partypants> Ok, so now it keeps asking me for the encryption key, and I know I am typing in the right one, the only thing I'm not sure about is if it should be set to shared key or open system, but I have tried both and neither work...
[15:42] <h1st0> Lartza_: You basically need one drive as master and one as slave or both as cable select.  Then your system will work fine.
[15:43] <somestupidnewbie> hanophix33: you will need your video cards unsupported drivers
[15:43] <h1st0> Lartza_: then it has text by the jumper pins themselves it has to be marked
[15:43] <somestupidnewbie> hanophix33: unsupported as in not by ubuntu
[15:43] <h1st0> Lartza_: most drives from factory are set as slave.
[15:43] <Lartza_> i found CSM and SLA
[15:43] <hanophix33> somestupidnewbie: okay, how do i get those
[15:43] <Lartza_> on the metal
[15:43] <Lartza_> on top of each other
[15:43] <h1st0> Lartza_: okay cs is cable select M is master and SL is slave
[15:43] <bazhang> partypants: this is via the gui? wpa I'm guessing
[15:44] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: with gksudo nautilus i dont see any drives at all -.-
[15:44] <partypants> 64bit hex
[15:44] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: not even the ROMs
[15:44] <Lartza_> it's an used driver so i dont know how it was on factory :(
[15:44] <somestupidnewbie> hanophix33: is there a expansion card in the top right of your launch bar
[15:44] <partypants> yes gui
[15:44] <Lartza_> but they are written like:
[15:44] <Lartza_> CSM
[15:44] <hanophix33> no
[15:44] <Lartza_> SLA
[15:44] <Lartza_> on different rows
[15:44] <somestupidnewbie> go to system > restriced drivers manager
[15:44] <somestupidnewbie> system > admin >
[15:44] <h1st0> Lartza_: yes
[15:45] <h1st0> Lartza_: CS is the left position would be cable select
[15:45] <hanophix33> somestupidnewbie: software modem driver is the only one thats restricted
[15:45] <Lartza_> ok
[15:45] <h1st0> Lartza_: SL is the middle would be slave and MA is master
[15:45] <Lartza_> OH!
[15:45] <h1st0> Lartza_: read it like columns
[15:45] <Lartza_> i readed i like CSMSLA
[15:46] <somestupidnewbie> see if the manu's website has the drivers for d/l
[15:46] <Lartza_> so need o adjust
[15:46] <somestupidnewbie> some have them in a neat little rpm
[15:46] <Lartza_> and check waht jumper position on cdrw is
[15:46] <kalet> <conectar
[15:46] <h1st0> Lartza_: Now look at the other drive.
[15:46] <SleepingSloth> hi all - i need to put my processors under 199% load (to test temps) - can anyone suggest a tool for doing that?
[15:46] <h1st0> Lartza_: then you can adjust the dvd acordingly
[15:46] <Lartza_> should i put both cable select or what?
[15:46] <partypants> bazhang: Yeah in the gui, I am using 64bit hex encryption
[15:46] <SleepingSloth> *100% load even
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: Exit out of that..
[15:46] <h1st0> Lartza_: you can or one master one slave
[15:46] <LjL> !info cpuburn | SleepingSloth
[15:46] <ubotu> sleepingsloth: cpuburn: a collection of programs to put heavy load on CPU. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4-25 (gutsy), package size 14 kB, installed size 116 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 hurd-i386 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: Hold for a sec...
[15:47] <SleepingSloth> thanks
[15:47] <Lartza_> the other one has sticker so need to get the other out
[15:47] <bazhang> partypants: this is wep, wpa, wpa2 which one
[15:47] <Lartza_> going to shut down
[15:47] <partypants> wep
[15:47] <Lartza_> cya
[15:47] <h1st0> Lartza_: k good luck
[15:47] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: ok:]
[15:47] <h1st0> partypants: why don't you use the network manager applet?
[15:47] <profanephobia> how can i find out whats using my ram as cache?
[15:48] <partypants> h1st0: where is that located? sorry if that is a stupid question.
[15:48] <bazhang> partypants: may as well leave it open then; wep is very insecure--a better bet would be wpa2
[15:48] <h1st0> partypants: are you using gnome?
[15:48] <partypants> h1st0: gutsy
[15:49] <bazhang> heh
[15:49] <somestupidnewbie> hehe
[15:49] <h1st0> bazhang: wep is still good for stoping the neighbors laptops etc.. from just using your network.
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: Thinking it is permissions on that drive... Ljl .. Does this look right     sudo mkdir /RAID/$USER && sudo chown $USER:$USER /RAID/$USER && sudo chmod u+rwx /RAID/$USER
[15:49] <h1st0> partypants: click the little picture of two computers by the clock.
[15:49] <BoltClock> erawfish: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52434 (im not sure that the first line is exactly like that)
[15:49] <partypants> bazhang: i'm not to worried about hackers, just blocking the casual user
[15:49] <h1st0> partypants: yeah then wep is fine.
[15:49] <bazhang> h1st0: perhaps your neighbors :} mine had it cracked in no time
[15:50] <h1st0> bazhang: yeah its easy to crack wep no doubt but most people dont know how.
[15:50] <tdn> I have an Ubuntu 7.10 installation on my machine that I would like to transform into an Ubuntu Server 7.10. Which packages do I remove/purge?
[15:50] <h1st0> bazhang: he is stop the casual users.
[15:50] <jarle> Is it possible to have mplayer stream a video from a samba-share that is not mounted in the filesystem? If I browse my shares in konqueror and then try to play it with mplayer, konqueror will try to copy the whole file before playing...
[15:50] <bazhang> h1st0: true; my bad
[15:50] <erawfish> h1st0: most people don't know how to crack ROT13 either. doesn't mean it's usable in any way as encryption
[15:50] <ZionPsyfer> h1st0: MAC filtering is usually easier for stopping the casual users though.
[15:50] <partypants> I don't know how to crack web, but that would be nice to know
[15:50] <erawfish> WEP is utterly broken and a waste of CPU cycles
[15:51] <partypants> wep*
[15:51] <h1st0> ZionPsyfer: bazhang erawfish does your mom know how to crack wep?  Nuff said.
[15:51] <bazhang> h1st0: huh? I just said 'my bad'
[15:51] <ZionPsyfer> h1st0: Nope, and that wasn't my argument. wep is more of a pain to configure.
[15:51] <erawfish> h1st0: as I said: she doesn't know how to crack ROT13 either. please read and don't talk snakeoil
[15:52] <twans> wep is easiest to configure rofl
[15:52] <Pici> !offtopic
[15:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:52] <h1st0> Well this is all offtopic anyhow.
[15:52] <ZionPsyfer> twans: Easier than mac filering?
[15:52] <partypants> h1st0: so i click on that and it shows wireless networks that are available, but I tried mannually configuring it and nothing has worked so far.
[15:52] <wed> hola a todos de donde son
[15:52] <bazhang> partypants: can you set the router?
[15:52] <twans> ZionPsyfer: it's less steps to enable at least. haha
[15:52] <h1st0> partypants: you can click on one of the wireless networks to join.
[15:52] <Pici> !es  | wed
[15:52] <ubotu> wed: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:52] <bazhang> wed hi
[15:52] <erawfish> partypants: what encrypton if any does your AP use?
[15:52] <partypants> bazhang: set to what?
[15:53] <ZionPsyfer> twans: Less than one that mac requires?  How do you figure?
[15:53] <BoltClock> erawfish: first i see the progress bar, then ubuntu prints those five lines. the screen blackens and displays those lines, repeats blinking another time, then ubuntu tells me it has to run in low gfx mode
[15:53] <partypants> h1st0: and I tried to join mine, but no luck
[15:53] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow, shouldn't have to make a directory of its own i think...? it just ought to have the correct permissions in /media, unless there something i've missed. is it not ext3? if it's not, then it may need to be mounted with some options
[15:53] <partypants> others around me are encrypted too
[15:53] <jarle> twans: why you should not use WEP -> http://www.grc.com/SecurityNow.htm#11
[15:53] <bazhang> partypants: can you set the router ie a home router, or is this roaming like at a starbucks etc
[15:53] <twans> oh i dont use it
[15:53] <partypants> bazhang: yes it is my router
[15:53] <ikonia> LjL: it only makes a direcotry if hal/dbus is aware
[15:54] <partypants> bazhang: but I would rather leave it encrypted
[15:54] <partypants> my bandwidth is shitty enough without letting other people on...
[15:54] <LjL> ikonia: but from the backlog i seem to understand that the /media directory is there already
[15:54] <partypants> stupid time warner
[15:55] <waxworks> can some tell me what this means?
[15:55] <o00w> how can I inherit permissions to sub folders with chown?  I changed the parent folder but it did not apply inheritance to all sub folders.
[15:55] <robot_jesus> has anyone installed compiz-fusion and can tell me how stable it is ?
[15:55] <bazhang> partypants: I always had an easier time with wpa2 using passphrase; though as that is offtopic and it is wep then perhaps you should set the ap via ifconfig/iwconfig
[15:55] <twans> o00w, chown -R
[15:55] <ikonia> LjL: I didn't see that part
[15:55] <robot_jesus> o00w:  -R
[15:55] <waxworks> [1625.728000] bcm43xx: Error: microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5,fw.not available or load failed
[15:55] <Dextorion> robot_jesus: just had it going for a couple of days here now, but works well for me.
[15:55] <somestupidnewbie> all new windows are opening under the launch bar, thus hiding the close max and min buttons. any way to correct this?
[15:56] <Dextorion> robot_jesus: What kinda of graphic card do you have?
[15:56] <erawfish> waxworks: it means you haven't put the firmware for your bcm in the proper place
[15:56] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: umm got lkicked from irc, still there?
[15:56] <partypants> bazhang: ok I will try setting it with iwconfig
[15:56] <bazhang> partypants: once you have set it via the cli it should acquire it automatically on boot
[15:56] <BoltClock> erawfish: ive seen the last four lines when i couldnt get the live cd to start the OS
[15:57] <waxworks> this msg came up on bootup to install ubuntu
[15:57] <partypants> cli?
[15:57] <robot_jesus> Dextorion: nvidia geforce 7800, would that be enough ?
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: Hi yes... Still thinking it is a permissions issue
[15:57] <robot_jesus> Dextorion: what card do you have ?
[15:57] <DOOM_NX> why am i downloading files at 3KB/s on msn?
[15:58] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: i just rebooted my pc and voila its there -.-
[15:58] <waxworks> BoltClock you haveing the same prob??
[15:58] <bazhang> somestupidnewbie: can you right click on the open windows and choose always over others etc? alt drag will bring them down initially
[15:58] <erawfish> BoltClock: a) the livecd never uses nvidia drivers  b) those line you pasted have nothing at all to do with nvidia or X
[15:58] <BoltClock> waxworks: what's yours?
[15:58] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: i think it has smthg to do with the fact that i had mounted it with sudo
[15:58] <x_or> Where can I find out what count the auto-fsck is at?  I want to know how many reboots before the auto-fsck runs again.
[15:58] <BoltClock> erawfish: nothing to do at all? o.o
[15:58] <waxworks> [1625.728000] bcm43xx: Error: microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5,fw.not available or load failed
[15:58] <simion314> how can i install the kernel source?
[15:58] <bazhang> partypants: command line is cli
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[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: Ok.. explains why we could not find anything wrong
[15:58] <neverblue> 'W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb
[15:58] <neverblue>   403 Forbidden' anyone else receive this error during updates this morning ?
[15:58] <h1st0> !broadcom > waxworks,   waxworks Read the private message from ubotu.
[15:58] <kalet> #
[15:59] <bazhang> partypants: in the terminal
[15:59] <Odd-rationale> neverblue: Not me.
[15:59] <partypants> bazhang: ok
[15:59] <Dextorion> robot_jesus: II dont think you'll have any problems there mate. I have an ATI card, which is kinda messy to get going. Nvidia cards should work smoother. :)
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: Glad it is working...  Welcome to Ubuntu
[15:59] <h1st0> waxworks: you just need the firmware for your card.
[15:59] <xator> http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=fXWRL39XI2Y
[15:59] <baldric> need some help with recent update to Ubuntu 7.10  - boot sticks at fsck and lost my video drivers
[15:59] <xator> look this video ;)
[15:59] <somestupidnewbie> bazhang: yeh always on top is an option. odd problem to have
[15:59] <Dextorion> robot_jesus: and yes, that will be more than enough.
[15:59] <Pici> xator: Please dont, this is a support channel.
[15:59] <dfas> hi all I have a php script that does a shell_exec('bin/sh mysh.sh') it does work when I execute php -q phpscript.php from CLI but it does not work when I call this script on apache from a webbrowser any ideas ? I did a chmod a+x mysh.sh
[16:00] <bazhang> somestupidnewbie: if you set it to your liking it should stick iirc
[16:00] <waxworks> h1st0 it will not boot
[16:00] <Dextorion> robot_jesus: you might just be able to use the "restricted drivers manager" to activate your drivers, and then activate "Advanced desktop effects". That should be it. :)
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> baldric: Does it not get through the file system check?
[16:00] <newUser> hello.. how to update ubuntu from console
[16:00] <h1st0> dfas: can the apache group see the mysh.sh file?  Or is it ina  directory that it doesn't have access to.
[16:00] <somestupidnewbie> bazhang: appears to work. thnx
[16:00] <h1st0> waxworks: what won't boot?
[16:01] <tdn> I have a clean Ubuntu 7.10 desktop installation on my machine that I would like to transform into an Ubuntu Server 7.10. Which packages do I remove/purge?
[16:01] <Dextorion> robot_jesus: Maybe activate Composite in Xorg.conf aswell.. i dont know.  But not much more anyways.
[16:01] <dfas> h1st0, yes it is in the html dir
[16:01] <dfas> h1st0, and the executing php is in the same dir
[16:01] <h1st0> dfas: hrm... make sure they have read too.
[16:01] <newUser> jack_sparrow how to update ubuntu from concole
[16:01] <h1st0> newUser: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:01] <simion314> hw can i install the kernel source? is a package?
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> newUser: apt-get update   ?
[16:02] <h1st0> simion314: yes but you probably just need the headers
[16:02] <waxworks> ubuntu will not boot form the live cd i get that error
[16:02] <komputes> if anyone is familiar with DocBook XML can they please join me in #docbook
[16:02] <baldric> only boots if I use using "Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic" forgets all my video setting when i restart
[16:02] <h1st0> simion314: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[16:02] <BoltClock> ok i managed to turn on the driver and it hasnt been mysteriously disabled
[16:03] <BoltClock> still low gfx mode
[16:03] <newUser> update then upgrade thank hlst0
[16:03] <x_or> Or, can someone tell me how to use dumpe2fs to tell the number of times before the fskc check occurs?
[16:03] <Lartza_> got the drives to work, but gives error message on every mount
[16:03] <h1st0> waxworks: check the cd for errors
[16:03] <waxworks> all im saying is Ubuntu will not boot because i get the error.
[16:03] <h1st0> Lartza_: what errors are you getting when you put a cd in?
[16:04] <Lartza_> umm... hard to say for you. need to be tranlated
[16:04] <BoltClock> erawfish: what should i try now?
[16:04] <waxworks> [1625.728000] bcm43xx: Error: microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5,fw.not available or load failed
[16:04] <h1st0> waxworks: its probably hanging on a different error that error is just related to firmware not being present for your wifi card.  It should continue booting after that.
[16:04] <Lartza_> it mount but gives some kind of "cant mount error"
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> waxworks: Did you have the livecd do the self test for errors?
[16:04] <waxworks> and a lot of them
[16:04] <h1st0> waxworks: check the cd for defects and try safe graphics mode.
[16:04] <UberDay> is anyone else haveing issue's geting the update xserver-xorg-core to download and install
[16:05] <Lartza_> and annoyingly opens the cd in both nautilus and thunar
[16:05] <h1st0> Lartza_: does it work though?
[16:05] <Lartza_> yes
[16:05] <h1st0> Lartza_: okay well why do you have nautilus and thunar?
[16:05] <mnoir> x_or:  sudo dumpe2fs -h /dev/whatever
[16:06] <Lartza_> "mount: /dev/hddd already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy"
[16:06] <h1st0> UberDay: aparently there is a bug related to java apps with it right now.  Maybe its being fixed atm.
[16:06] <Lartza_> because
[16:06] <robot_jesus> Dextorion: sweet, do you like it ?
[16:06] <Lartza_> i dont know how to remove nautilus
[16:06] <UberDay> ok ty
[16:06] <UberDay> \\\\;0
[16:06] <h1st0> Lartza_: thats because you have two things trying to mount it.
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !tune2fs
[16:06] <UberDay> :)
[16:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tune2fs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:06] <Lartza_> how to change from nautilus to thunar
[16:06] <h1st0> Lartza_: what are you running xubuntu?
[16:06] <Lartza_> both
[16:06] <Lartza_> but would like to change to thunar
[16:06] <Lartza_> in ubuntu too
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> x_or: what about using tune2fs
[16:07] <h1st0> Lartza_: nautilus is part of gnome but someone may know how to remove it.
[16:07] <Lartza_> or disable
[16:07] <WhiteHat> Hi. Which repositories should I add so that I will be able to install most of the recent applications?
[16:07] <Lartza_> i need thunar only
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Lartza_: I added thunar to ubuntu, but was not able to figure out how to make it the default
[16:08] <Lartza_> sometimes xubuntu open folders in nautilus whn double clicked on desktop
[16:08] <Lartza_> that error is really weird
[16:09] <stain> I just installer 7.10 on x86-64, and I get from the update thingie: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_amd64.deb 403 Forbidden
[16:09] <stain> is this extra security..? :_)
[16:09] <profanephobia> how can i find out whats using my ram as cache?
[16:09] <Lartza_> why my disc drives give a mount error, but still mount???
[16:09] <bazhang> stain: could be a server not responding--try again in a bit
[16:09] <DOOM_NX> why is pidgin downloading so slowly? do i need to open a port?
[16:10] <DOOM_NX> MSN network
[16:10] <neverblue> 'W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb
[16:10] <neverblue>   403 Forbidden' anyone else receive this error during updates this morning ?
[16:10] <LjL> stain, don't upgrade, there are problems with the current xorg updates, neverblue, same
[16:10] <neverblue> ah
[16:10] <neverblue> ok, thanks LjL
[16:10] <stain> LjL: ok, thanks, I'll cancel it
[16:10] <bazhang> oops forgot the topic
[16:10] <neverblue> wasnt sure if it was just the host
[16:10] <Lartza_> why my disc drives give a mount error, but still mount???
[16:10] <neverblue> s/host/repo/
[16:10] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: hehehe yeah and sudo tune2fs -m 1 /dev/sdb1 also helps freaking ubuntu reserves 7,5gig(!!!) from my hdd XD
[16:11] <h1st0> DOOM_NX: probably from whoever you are downloading from.
[16:11] <bazhang> DOOM_NX: where are you downloading it from? the repos?
[16:11] <tdn> I just removed NetworkManager from my remote Ubuntu server and the connection went down. Now I cannot get access to it. How do I fix this?
[16:11] <LjL> neverblue: it probably is just the host. however, since that upgrade is broken anyway, better to just wait ;)
[16:11] <Devilson> hy all
[16:11] <Devilson> i need help
[16:11] <bazhang> hi Devilson
[16:11] <h1st0> Lartza_: because its being mounted by something then something else is trying to mount it again.
[16:11] <neverblue> LjL :)
[16:11] <bazhang> ask away Devilson
[16:11] <robot_jesus> this is a very friendly channel
[16:11] <Devilson> i try to acces youtube and the flsh player doesent work
[16:11] <Devilson> :(
[16:11] <robot_jesus> the robot_jesus approves of this chanel
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: 7.5 from 500 Gig....  I think you can afford that
[16:11] <lootsy> hi - i want to apt-get upgrade the package xserver-xorg-core but the server said 403 Forbidden error. Does anyone knwo who to contact to fix this issue?
[16:11] <Lartza_> h1st0: didn't understand
[16:12] <h1st0> !flash > Devilson,   Devilson Read the private message from ubotu.
[16:12] <bazhang> Devilson: check the topic--a fix is in the works
[16:12] <Lartza_> /dev/hdc already mounted to /media/crom0 is part of it
[16:12] <shoeunited> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb  403 Forbidden   <----  This showed up in the Update Manager.  lol Help?
[16:12] <bazhang> lootsy: an issue that is being resolved as we speak (hopefully)
[16:13] <bazhang> shoeunited: yeah, it is happening to many folks now just be patient for a fix
[16:13] <lootsy> baz: thanks i will try it in a few minutes again
[16:13] <wyclif> gtk-gash is thrashing my HD
[16:13] <Jack_Sparrow> shoeunited: The update is broken.. please stop posting that it will be fixed soon
[16:13] <wyclif> gtk-gnash is thrashing my disk
[16:13] <BoltClock> i need help with my new gutsy install. my nvidia graphics driver has been bugging me for over six hours today. im using an onboard nvidia gf7100 card, but whether the driver is enabled or not in Restricted Drivers, ubuntu fails to work with it and requests to start in low gfx mode.
[16:13] <shoeunited> bazhang, Jack_Sparrow,  Alright thank you sirs,  I know I'm not usually the first but better to head off a problem with server errors than let it go undected.  Thank you :)
[16:14] <bazhang> wyclif: sounds bad--can you provide more details
[16:14] <Jack_Sparrow> np thanks
[16:14] <bazhang> no worries shoeunited
[16:14] <partypants> Ok so the wireless works with encryption disabled, but I would like to have it enabled. Unfortunately my router only supports WEP.
[16:14] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Quick question.. did you setup your monitors v/h refresh and sync?
[16:14] <wyclif> when I hit a bit of bad code in a page, all of a sudden gtk-gnash is thrashing and using over 80% of RAM in a runaway process; thx bazhang
[16:15] <bazhang> I was wondering why myspace almost took down my machine earlier :}
[16:15] <unstable> I just built this AMD X2 system, and I burned an AMD64 iso, but after the grub menu..and after it shows some text..it goes black, and stays that way
[16:15] <unstable> but when I boot an i386 disc, it works fine
[16:15] <lootsy> LjL: Is there a website where I can get these news (server problems and so on...)?
[16:15] <Jack_Sparrow> partypants: Wep is worthless  and routers are inexpensive.. run without wep or get a new router
[16:15] <wyclif> bazhang: myspace will do it, but it was actually macrumors.com
[16:15] <LjL> lootsy, not really. it's something pretty "live" that's being discussed mostly on irc.
[16:16] <unstable> Anyone know why the splashscreen doesn't show on a AMD64 ubuntu disc, the monitor just stays black the whole time, but it works fine on i386
[16:16] <LjL> lootsy: it will probably be solved in two dozens of minutes.
[16:16] <partypants> Jack_Sparrow: WEP will keep n00bs out, and that's all I really want to do.
[16:16] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: huh?
[16:16] <bazhang> wyclif: haha yeah that site will do it too
[16:16] <QuickGold> What is the command(s) to install the GUI on Ubuntu Server?
[16:16] <wyclif> had to reboot.  i'm wondering if I even need gtk-gnash
[16:16] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: 7,5 gig?? never in a live! XD
[16:17] <lootsy> LjL: thx maybe i'm too impatient :)
[16:17] <Seveas> QuickGold, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop linux-generic
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Please post your xorg to the pastebin..  Is this a laptop or desktop box.. Provide us with a link to the pastebin.. Do not paste into the channel.
[16:17] <QuickGold> Seveas: ty!
[16:17] <notyeta> hey
[16:17] <LjL> !xbug
[16:17] <ubotu> The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[16:17] <sarthor> if my ips remain dynamic So will this scrip will work fine?? http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
[16:17] <BoltClock> i pasted it a bit ago, let me get the link
[16:17] <waqas> hey can any one help me?
[16:17] <Flanger> Hi all, Does someone know how I can make mutt play nicely with thinderbird? Thunderbird has long dir's which make little sense to store e-mail in. Those are not easily accessible by mutt.
[16:18] <Seveas> !anyone | waqas
[16:18] <ubotu> waqas: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[16:18] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: thanks
[16:18] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52422, im on a desktop pc that i bought a couple weeks ago
[16:18] <Seveas> Flanger, use imap. Then they don't have to cooperate :)
[16:18] <QuickGold> !ask | waqas
[16:18] <ubotu> waqas: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:18] <waqas> how do i migrate myBB from one host to an other host?
[16:19] <Flanger> Seveas: ok, thanks, I'll look into that (never really taken the trouble).
[16:19] <lix> hi. how can i (as root) see, what another shell user is writing in the command line? "tail -f /dev/pts/1" doesnt work.
[16:19] <partypants> I guess I can just run an open network for now, but does anyone know of an app (not necessarily linux) that will notify my when a new computer joins the network?
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: It shows no resolutions for your screen output..  Did you already sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:20] <Seveas> lix, you can with a nasty trick
[16:20] <lix> Seveas: like what?
[16:20] <lix> Seveas: i like it nasty ;)
[16:21] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: yes, i have. should i do it again to make sure?
[16:21] <Seveas> lix, hang on, trying to remember...
[16:21] <notyeta> remerber what?
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Something is not right.. have you looked up your v/h sync and refresh yourself 160 seems a bit high... on the one
[16:21] <notyeta> how should i format my disk?
[16:22] <Pici> lix: Seveas: ttysnoop iirc.
[16:22] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: what's v/h sync?
[16:22] <Seveas> Pici, close but no cigar :)
[16:22] <poor_man> hi ubunters.....
[16:22] <sarthor> if my ips remain dynamic So will this scrip will work fine?? http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Lines 72 and 73 in your xorg
[16:22] <Pici> Seveas: conspy?
[16:22] <ubud> how to add in medibuntu
[16:23] <Seveas> Pici, closer but still no cigar :)
[16:23] <LjL> !medibuntu > ubud    (ubud, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:23] <zoli2k> Hi! I have problem with the navigator bar in firefox. It is very random effect. Sometimes it stops to react on entering any address.
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Verify those specs fit your hardware...
[16:23] <Seveas> Pici, gah.. my memory is fauling me...
[16:23] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: i dont know how to, im not sure about hardware :/
[16:23] <zoli2k> zoli2k:  I have this problem on gutsy, fesity on different machines.
[16:23] <ubud> medibuntu site very slow anyone know the cmd line to add in for gusty?
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: I would use google and find the specs for your monitor
[16:24] <partypants> zoli2k: can you explain in more detail?
[16:24] <LjL> ubud: deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free
[16:24] <poor_man> i want use a trusted ssh connection, passwordless from my source machine to destination one. i have to generate ssh public/privete keys from the source machine or from the destination machine??
[16:24] <GovDoc> I am trying to make a package.list (not sure if that is it's extension).  I have a quite a large collection of debs outside my /Var/.../archive/, but i need to find out how to properly scan, i know it has to with dpkg-scanpackages.  I just dont understand how to use it properly, all my files are in one directory, if anyone knows the code for that, can you help me out
[16:24] <lix> Pici: ttysnoop tells me: "can't connect to server"
[16:24] <lix> Pici ??
[16:24] <LjL> profanephobia: perhaps the kernel...?
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: You can also run the reconf again.. select vesa mode.. 1024 x 768 as max res and get basic gui functioning
[16:25] <Pici> lix: I just knew the package name from the repos, Seveas says hes thinking of something else.
[16:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd > GovDoc
[16:25] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: my monitor specs: http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/lg-l226wtq-bf-flat/4507-3174_7-32447663-.html
[16:25] <Seveas> lix, ttysnoop is not what you want
[16:25] <lix> Pici: used "ttysnoop pts/1" while the user is logged in on pts/1
[16:25] <lix> Seveas: oh. ok
[16:25] <lix> Pici: tnx anyways :)
[16:26] <GovDoc> Jack-Sparrow: what command do i use, i just saw aptoncd -l and aptoncd -c for creating a repo on a media.  Unfortunately i do not have that many cds available for burning
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: So the xorg is way wrong for v/h as well
[16:27] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: so should i run that command in terminal?
[16:27] <sarthor> if my ips remain dynamic So will this scrip will work fine?? http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
[16:27] <lix> Seveas: ttyrec ?
[16:27] <motorad> jojo
[16:27] <Seveas> lix, found it: script
[16:27] <Seveas> http://linux.die.net/man/1/script
[16:28] <lix> Seveas: tnx i'll try that
[16:28] <motorad> jojojo
[16:28] <motorad> jo
[16:28] <Pici> Seveas: Interesting, never though of using script like that.
[16:28] <Pici> !support | motorad
[16:28] <ubotu> motorad: the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Yes you need to rerun it.. that link you gave only posted the upper limit.. a factory pdf would also show the lower limit
[16:29] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: X server driver, im confused between nv and nvidia, which should i pick?
[16:29] <ikonia> BoltClock: nvidia
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: start with nvidia
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks ikonia...  I need my morning coffee...
[16:30] <LibertyShadow> Is anyone having trouble updating xserver-xorg-core.  I get a message saying it is forbidden.
[16:30] <BoltClock> Identifier for your video card: nVidia Corporation NVIDIA Default Card
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !xbug
[16:30] <sarthor> if my ips remain dynamic So will this scrip will work fine?? http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
[16:30] <ubotu> The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[16:30] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: not a problem
[16:30] <bazhang> LibertyShadow: that is being worked on as we speak
[16:30] <LibertyShadow> bazhang: Thank you.
[16:31] <tdn> What packages do I need to remove to make a regular Ubuntu into an Ubuntu Server?
[16:31] <bazhang> no worries LibertyShadow
[16:31] <Seveas> !ding
[16:31] <ubotu> dong
[16:31] <Seveas> hmm, ubotu ?
[16:31] <Seveas> ah
[16:31] <neverblue> whats the command to remove a package entirely using apt-get/aptitude ( I realize there are two)
[16:31] <BoltClock> im at a screen describing something but i cant seem to get past it
[16:31] <LjL> neverblue: sudo apt-get --purge remove package / sudo aptitude purge package
[16:31] <genii> neverblue: with apt-get:   sudo apt-get remove --purge <name>
[16:32] <neverblue> thanks LjL and genii
[16:32] <genii> LjL: Darn yer too fast
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Need more info than that
[16:32] <LjL> join -trivia and you'll see i'm so slow
[16:32] <WhiteHat> Hi. Which repositories should I add so that I will be able to install most of the recent applications?
[16:32] <neverblue> he is on da ball today genii
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Tab may let you past
[16:32] <BoltClock> ok got it
[16:32] <BoltClock> Video card's bus identifier: PCI:0:16:0
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: As long as you didnt change it
[16:33] <erUSUL> BoltClock: is  PCI:0:1:0 not 16
[16:33] <BoltClock> but it said 16
[16:33]  * erUSUL remembers BoltClock lspci utput
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> It shouldnt
[16:33] <TeeAhr1> hey, does anyone know how to get ahold of the folks who maintain the ubuntu wiki?  i cannot log in with my launchpad password (which is valid and logs me in to launchpad just fine)
[16:34] <BoltClock> erUSUL: so do i. but ive already passed that step, now what?
[16:34] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: 1 or 16?
[16:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Trust erUSUL
[16:34] <BoltClock> PCI:0:1:0? but ive passed that step ><
[16:35] <Jack_Sparrow> I gotta get some coffee...  running to the store now
[16:35] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: go through.. finsih then go again
[16:35] <erUSUL> BoltClock: well everything i tried with you failed and iirc the safe graphics mode overwrittes the Xorg log so you can not see what is going wrong...
[16:35] <BoltClock> Amount of memory (kB) to be used by the video card:
[16:35] <BoltClock> how much should it be?
[16:36] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: i will
[16:36] <Hilikus> where are daemons launched from? who starts them?
[16:36] <erUSUL> Hilikus: most of them are launched by upstart (init)
[16:36] <`Matir> Hilikus, look in /etc/init.d/
[16:36] <tetsou> hi
[16:37] <tetsou> Can anybody explain the undocumented option "-b" to modprobe ?
[16:37] <BoltClock> erUSUL: should i leave the video memory amount blank as the step recommends?
[16:37] <tomasso> is there any way to know how different are two files using diff ?
[16:37] <unstable> I just built this AMD X2 system, and I burned an AMD64 iso, but after the grub menu..and after it shows some text..it goes black, and stays that way
[16:37] <unstable> but when I boot an i386 disc, it works fine
[16:37] <unstable> Anyone know why the splashscreen doesn't show on a AMD64 ubuntu disc, the monitor just stays black the whole time, but it works fine on i386
[16:38] <tomasso> for example file1 and file2 match in a 35%
[16:38] <DRebellion> !enter | unstable
[16:38] <ubotu> unstable: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:38] <erUSUL> BoltClock: yes you can leave it blank is autodetected
[16:38] <tetsou> It's not listed in the man page, but it exists
[16:38] <corinth> When I maxamize a window, sometimes the titlebar gets screwed up.  My problem is the same as this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=525934 . Please help.
[16:38] <beta> So why does doing a whois on microsoft.com from an ubuntu machine return things such as: MICROSOFT.COM.ZZZZZZ.MORE.DETAILS.AT.WWW.BEYONDWHOIS.COM and MICROSOFT.COM.ZZZZZ.GET.LAID.AT.WWW.SWINGINGCOMMUNITY.COM? Complete whois: http://pastebin.ca/860055
[16:38] <unstable> I can't use 64 bit disc on my new system, only i386 works, but the system is 64 bit hardware
[16:38]  * erUSUL has to run
[16:38] <BoltClock> erUSUL: bye
[16:38] <beta> This does not reflect whois done from other distros (Fedora) or from online services.
[16:38] <BoltClock> i think
[16:39] <zoli2k> en is
[16:39] <DRebellion> beta: i can confirm this
[16:40] <beta> Why is this though? I mean, I'm not fond of microsoft and find it ironic, but at the same time I am not happy with the data being inaccurate (assuming it is inaccurate)
[16:40] <LjL> tomasso: diff doesn't have such a feature. you could probably script it. something like « expr $(diff --minimal file1 file2 | wc -l) / $(expr $(cat file1 file2 | wc -l) / 2) »
[16:40] <Zermelo> I upgraded my kernel on Gutsy to 2.6.23.1, but now my built in wireless card will not turn on at boot, in fact if I turn it on at boot (FN+F2), when I log in it will turn it OFF, I have to wait until I log in to turn it on again with Fn+F2, any ideas on how to turn it on at boot?
[16:41] <th0r> beta we keep it tough to exclude the underserving from the community
[16:41] <amikrop> Can't upgrade xserver-xorg-core. 403 forbidden.
[16:41] <beta> th0r, What do you mean?
[16:41] <th0r> (undeserving)
[16:41] <ikonia> amikrop: it's currrently broke and being fixed urgently
[16:41] <amikrop> ikonia: ok
[16:41] <amikrop> thanks
[16:41] <MichaelSammels> When I run the Ubuntu LiveCD or install on my desktop, my monitor says that the input is not supported. Card is an Intel 845G.
[16:41] <ikonia> amikrop: a security update in it breaks java
[16:42] <amikrop> I see
[16:42] <DRebellion> beta: i think it is simply displaying subdomains with microsoft.com in them. if you look towards the bottom you see the microsoft.com listing.
[16:42] <tomasso> LjL, hmhmhm thank you ! sounds good
[16:42] <Lokii-> how do i mount a windows share ?
[16:42] <Kibble> hey all i'm getting a 403 error when trying to install recent security update to xserver-xorg-core
[16:42] <Kibble> any1 know about this?
[16:42] <DRebellion> !smb | Lokii-
[16:42] <ubotu> Lokii-: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[16:42] <LjL> !xbug > Kibble    (Kibble, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:42] <beta> DRebellion, Ah I see
[16:43] <barefoot> anyone else use this tutorial? http://howtoforge.com/virtual-users-and-domains-with-postfix-ubuntu-7.10 - I cant seem to get smtp authentication working, but pop is okay
[16:43] <MichaelSammels> When I run the Ubuntu LiveCD or install on my desktop, my monitor says that the input is not supported. Card is an Intel 845G.
[16:43] <Kibble> great ljl - thanks
[16:44] <Kibble> !flash
[16:44] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[16:44] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[16:44] <Lokii-> drebellion isn't there a way to mount with mount -o or something ?
[16:44] <Kibble> !gnash
[16:44] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[16:45] <DRebellion> Lokii-: yes you can permanently add the share by putting an entry in /etc/fstab
[16:45] <Lokii-> without samba though?
[16:45] <jaggy> what's the command to make a map readable and writeable for every user of the computer?
[16:45] <W8TAH> what does one need to install in gusty to be able to view youtube videos?
[16:45] <ASTX813> Someone please help with lp/lpr.  lpr -P Labeler -o media-Address addresslabel.pdf ends up printing with the top & bottom cut off, but printing from Evince with the paper size = Address in the Page Setup works just fine.
[16:46] <DRebellion> Lokii-: you can set up any type you want on your windows box
[16:46] <DRebellion> !flash | W8TAH
[16:46] <ubotu> W8TAH: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[16:46] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[16:46] <Kibble> has anyone had any issues with a flashing screen (flickers to black every ~1/2 minutes)
[16:46] <d31`home> !postfix
[16:46] <ubotu> postfix is the default !MTA and !MDA on Ubuntu. For help, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto - See also !MailServer
[16:46] <W8TAH> thanks DRebellion
[16:47] <DRebellion> W8TAH: no probs
[16:47] <LjL> DRebellion, please give that factoid in PM, since it's so spammy
[16:47] <Kibble> !mailserver
[16:47] <d31`home> !mailserver
[16:47] <jaggy> what's the command to make a map readable and writeable for every user of the computer?
[16:47] <DRebellion> LjL: hmm. its just that some people get pretty annoyed when you send them a pm
[16:47] <LjL> !msgthebot > d31`home    (d31`home, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:48] <LjL> DRebellion: that is completely their problem. if they don't want to be helped, they shouldn't be in here.
[16:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu supports the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) and provides mail server software of many kinds. You can install a basic email handling configuration with the "Mail server" task during installation, or with the "tasksel" command. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer and https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/email-services.html
[16:48] <DRebellion> LjL: ok fair enough
[16:48] <stf> Hi. An app gives me this error message... "XLoadQueryFont:failed loading font *-helvetica-*-12-*". Is there any simple way I can hack around this? I'm only gonna use the app once..
[16:48] <stf> for example can I mislead the app to use Courier New when *-helvetica-*-12-* is requested?
[16:48] <stf> (I did eventually install helvetica but to no avail..)
[16:48] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow you back yet?
[16:49] <DRebellion> !enter | stf
[16:49] <ubotu> stf: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:49] <d31`home> as if this channel doesn't already get enough spam LjL. I don't see the issue with asking ubotu questinos.
[16:49] <LjL> d31`home: err... precisely *because* this channel gets enough spam, there's definitely no reason to add more to it. Ubotu can respond in PM, so use PM.
[16:49] <stf> DRebellion: disagreed ;) it's more readable on several lines.
[16:50] <DRebellion> stf: disagreed. its easier to keep track of the channel if you don't fragment your message.
[16:50] <azlon> i just downloaded some drivers for my webcam, but how do i make the webcam work now?
[16:50] <W8TAH> stf-- not a good idea to argue with the gurus - just say yes sir and move on
[16:50] <azlon> i know in windows i would just go to device manager
[16:50] <DRebellion> !webcam > azlon
[16:50] <th0r> stf just a possibility. check into .Xdefaults....it allows you to define some operating parameters (like fonts in some cases) for X applications.
[16:51] <GottesDiener> I have a problem with the transparent of the terminal, I set the transparent background on the gnome-terminal, whene I launch compiz, it sets the gnome-terminal to be transparent to every window under it! any idea please to change this just to be transparent background?
[16:51] <d31`home> !Courier
[16:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about courier - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:51] <rredd4> LjL  others can learn from ubotu and go read the links provided if its printed here.  It has helped me
[16:51] <stf> th0r: thanks. I don't have that file in ~, googling it..
[16:51] <d31`home> i agree with rredd4
[16:52] <th0r> stf it isn't there by default. But I used to use it a lot for apps like nedit and netscape. Your app may or may not support it, but worth taking a look
[16:52] <Wannabe> Hi, How are you?
[16:52] <LjL> rredd4, d31`home: that is true. and that is why ubotu can be called with two different syntaxes. however, when factoids are long and very often used, there is no need to spam the channel. for short factoids that may easily be of interest to many people at once, there's the in-channel syntax.
[16:52] <rredd4> ubotu is not spam
[16:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is not spam - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:52] <DRebellion> i think its a matter of circumstance. if the channel is relitavely quiet (as it is now) then make ubotu reply in the channel. if its busy, then use a pm
[16:53] <azlon> DRebellion: i have already been to those links... they tell me where to get the drivers, but they dont tell me how to assign the drivers to a device
[16:53] <th0r> stf here is an example file....http://mathstat.asu.edu/support/doc/unix/coping-with-unix/node185.html
[16:53] <MrObvious> Morning guys.
[16:53] <DRebellion> MrObvious: afternoon :P
[16:54] <Wannabe> do you know how can i see what is contained in ntldr file or how can i open it ?
[16:54] <th0r> stf the file used to be quite popular in the old days before linux went into windows competition with gnome and kde....when apps worked well
[16:54] <MrObvious> th0r: I don't even know what the file does.
[16:54] <MrObvious> lol
[16:54] <MrObvious> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_amd64.deb
[16:54] <MrObvious>   403 Forbidden
[16:54] <DRebellion> Wannabe: do you mean with a .ntldr file extension?
[16:54] <th0r> my point is made
[16:54] <MrObvious> Is anyone getting this?
[16:54] <LjL> !xbug > MrObvious    (MrObvious, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:54] <LjL> !paste > MrObvious    (MrObvious, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:54] <DRebellion> !enter | MrObvious
[16:54] <ubotu> MrObvious: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:54] <MrObvious> Thanks.
[16:54] <macgruber> hi, anyone can help me about wifi range with ubuntu vs. vista?
[16:54] <stf> th0r: yeah, I remember reading about it in my very first linux book and skipping it cause it seemed arcane :)
[16:55] <MrObvious> DRebellion: I know. It had an extra enter character in there. :p
[16:55] <the^user> http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z6kTGUOiQI
[16:55] <DRebellion> MrObvious: god i know what you mean. such a pain.
[16:55] <th0r> stf you would be surprised how efficient your world will become if you dump gnome and kde and look into some of the older stuff
[16:56] <Wannabe> no, this is the name ntdlr without extention
[16:56] <stf> th0r: I have always found KDE (and GNOME) apps more polished than their plain-X predecessors
[16:56] <Wannabe> ntldr
[16:56] <DRebellion> Wannabe: file ntldr
[16:56] <th0r> stf yup....they look great if you have enough ram, cpu and disk space
[16:56] <Wannabe> yes
[16:56] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys I'm doing a regular old update on gutsy 64 bit and I keep getting this error "W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_amd64.deb  403 Forbidden"
[16:56] <stf> th0r: which I do :)
[16:57] <th0r> stf and an hour or two to wait for them to load up and try to do something
[16:57] <MrObvious> I like the way Gnome works on Ubuntu. It's been tied in quite well.
[16:57] <stf> th0r: so I see "xterm*Font: blah blah" in that file. is the "xterm" simply the executable name, or is it some magic string?
[16:57] <BoltClock> im in the midst of configuring xserver-xorg and im not sure which mouse protocol to use (or something)
[16:57] <Pici> !xbug > Paddy_EIRE
[16:57] <MrObvious> !xbug > Paddy_EIRE
[16:57] <Kibble> any1 know why gnash would eat up 100% of my CPU running only one instance of youtube video (1GB RAM, 2x2GHz CPU)
[16:57] <stf> th0r: more like a second or two. sheesh ;)
[16:57] <th0r> stf the first term, in this case xterm, is the name of the executable.
[16:57] <stf> k
[16:57] <DRebellion> Kibble: gnash is not very efficient?
[16:57] <Paddy_EIRE> thx Pici and MrObvious
[16:57] <MrObvious> Kibble: Nope. I use regular Adobe Flash on my 64 bit firefox.
[16:57] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: YW.
[16:58] <BoltClock> im in the midst of configuring xserver-xorg and im not sure which mouse protocol to use (or something)... ImPS/2 or ExplorerPS/2, which should i use? ><
[16:58] <th0r> stf on my 2G core duo with 1G ram you can see quite a difference in performance between kde/gnome and xfce
[16:58] <Kibble> how would I install that mrobvious?
[16:58] <MrObvious> Kibble: *32 bit firefox on my 64 bit OS.
[16:58] <Paddy_EIRE> I also noticed that when I do anything that involves using the package manager it tries to remove nspluginwrapper each time
[16:58] <MrObvious> Kibble: Lemme find it on the wiki.
[16:58] <th0r> stf and I would point out...in kde and gnome you can't do the xdefaults thing for each individual app <smile>
[16:58] <stf> th0r: xfce? does that even have a syntax-highlightning text editor?
[16:58] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: You use gnash too?
[16:59] <th0r> stf look at nedit
[16:59] <Paddy_EIRE> nope
[16:59] <BoltClock> anyone? ><
[16:59] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: You use 64 bit firefox and 32 bit flash?
[16:59] <Kibble> (i have a 64 bit box, but as i'm a linux noob I was recommended away from trying to install the 64bit ubuntu version
[16:59] <Paddy_EIRE> MrObvious, I use nspluginwrapper as I'm using 64 bit
[16:59] <Paddy_EIRE> MrObvious, yes
[16:59] <stf> th0r: yeah, kde and gnome apps are well done so I never had to :) nedit is a motif app, no?
[16:59] <Wannabe> i want to see the code inside ntldr but i don't know how, i can see only some symbols
[16:59] <sarthor> if my ips remain dynamic So will this scrip will work fine?? http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
[16:59] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: I'm finding Kibble a link on how to install Firefox 32 bit on 64 bit Ubuntu.
[16:59] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, pointless not to install the 64 bit version
[17:00] <th0r> stf yup...requires motif or lesstif
[17:00] <Paddy_EIRE> MrObvious, wait
[17:00] <BoltClock> could anyone help?
[17:00] <Paddy_EIRE> MrObvious, I have a script for that and its great
[17:00] <Kibble> paddy - i've been told it's more complicated?
[17:00] <tdn> The net stopped working after I removed all X packages. I guess this is because NetworkManager was uninstalled. How do I get the network up now?
[17:00] <DRebellion> Wannabe: run the command:  file ntldr
[17:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, not at all
[17:00] <th0r> stf course, there was a day when folks learned to progam in monochrome <smile>
[17:00] <DRebellion> Wannabe: that will tell you what sort of file it is
[17:00] <th0r> stf when the program meant  more than the colours
[17:00] <stf> th0r: motif doesn't float my boat. ugly and unusable ;)
[17:00] <MrObvious> Kibble: Push Tab after typing a few letters of the nick and tab autocompletes it. If it doesn't give you the right nick then push Tab again.
[17:00] <stf> th0r: that's me too. I learned in qbasic
[17:01] <MrObvious> Kibble: Paddy_EIRE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[17:01] <Kibble> MrObvious: aha, that's useful
[17:01] <MrObvious> Kibble: Very.
[17:01] <BoltClock> im in the midst of configuring xserver-xorg and im not sure which mouse protocol to use (or something)... ImPS/2 or ExplorerPS/2, which should i use? ><
[17:01] <Paddy_EIRE> MrObvious, the script is much nicer :P
[17:01] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: Lol.
[17:01] <stf> th0r: thanks for the help, I'm off to try it out
[17:01] <th0r> stf np
[17:01] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, can you accept dcc
[17:02] <azlon> !dualhead
[17:02] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[17:02] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: Maybe you should edit that wiki page I showed you to include that script.
[17:02] <Paddy_EIRE> ah
[17:02] <Paddy_EIRE> yes
[17:02] <Kibble> MrObvious: Paddy_EIRE: what's the bid deal with installing 64bit ubuntu?
[17:02] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: Just put it in the pastebin.
[17:02] <MrObvious> Kibble: I did it because I run Folding At Home and need a 64 bit kernel to run SMP processing for the project.
[17:02] <Paddy_EIRE> I will do later MrObvious as the original author of the script must be notified I'm sure?
[17:02] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: no, i'm not sure enough of my knowledge of linux to be accepting scripts from people on IRC
[17:03] <Kibble> no offense
[17:03] <anch> ola
[17:03] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: Oh. That might be good. I'm not needing it but Kibble would.
[17:03] <MrObvious> !hi | anch
[17:03] <ubotu> anch: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[17:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, no big deal I just noticed its much faster at booting and apps seem to be much snappier
[17:03] <anch> hello boys
[17:03] <Kibble> hmm
[17:03] <tim167> i try to copy a disk with dd, but i get 'no space left on device' even though i just formatted the drive and it's big enough, what did i do wrong ?
[17:04]  * Kibble is now interested in the 64bit version
[17:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, this channel is pretty safe If you would feel better if I sent it to an op first then I shall
[17:04] <MrObvious> tim167: Make sure the secondary drive is at least as big or bigger.
[17:04] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow back yet?
[17:04]  * Kibble leaves to scavenge the net for d/l link
[17:04] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: Just put it on pastebin and show Kibble how to execute it.
[17:04] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[17:04] <tdn> I just removed NetworkManager from my remote Ubuntu server and the connection went down. Now I cannot get access to it. How do I fix this?
[17:05] <DRebellion> tdn: go and fix it locally
[17:05] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, hold on a sec if you dont mind.. gotta do a little thing here
[17:05] <cristi01> hello
[17:05] <Kibble> don't mind me :)
[17:05] <tim167> MrObvious, the the destination drive must be bigger than the actual source drive, or just the source partition ?
[17:05] <MrObvious> tim167: I think dd does whole drives, not just partitions.
[17:05] <Kibble> MrObvious: is there an intel 64bit?
[17:06] <MrObvious> !hi | cristi01
[17:06] <ubotu> cristi01: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[17:06] <th0r> tdn you will need to define the network options in /etc/network/interfaces and then bring the interface down and back up...all will have to be done onsite if the link is down
[17:06] <MrObvious> Kibble: Just use the AMD64 one. It's completely compatible (I'm on my C2D notebook as we speak).
[17:06] <cristi01> i have a problem with compiz settings manager
[17:06] <MrObvious> !compix | cristi01
[17:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:06] <MrObvious> !compiz | cristi01
[17:06] <ubotu> cristi01: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[17:06] <cristi01> compiz :P
[17:06] <celsocll> I tried to install flashplugin-nonfree, now always i use the apt get, its try to install again.... how i resolve this problem!
[17:06] <celsocll> ?
[17:06] <Kibble> MrObvious: thanks, will do
[17:07] <MrObvious> celsocll: Does flash work?
[17:07] <DRebellion> !flash > celsocll
[17:07] <MrObvious> Kibble: :)
[17:07] <rinaldi_> celsocll: flash is broken
[17:07] <cristi01> MrObvious: in the general settings, desktop size tab, the horizontal virtual size just won't stick to 4
[17:07] <cristi01> (cube
[17:07] <cristi01> )
[17:08] <celsocll> !flash
[17:08] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[17:08] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[17:08] <cristi01> MrObvious: i can enter any other number..
[17:08] <cristi01> but not 4
[17:08] <Omegacenti> Alright, so That was a horrible experience of calling lenovo to see if I could do away with the Windows Vista portion of an X61 tablet pc. They wouldn't let me do it, any suggestions?
[17:08] <MrObvious> cristi01: This isn't the channel for compiz.
[17:08] <stf> th0r: well, that didn't work. anyway I just found that they changed the default font from helvetica to fixed one month ago, see this --> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-evtouch/
[17:09] <Omegacenti> And to think its a thinkpad.
[17:09] <rinaldi_> celsocll: just download off the site, works fine for me
[17:09] <stf> th0r: I guess I'll try to get a deb from there and install it
[17:09] <cristi01> fine, fine
[17:09] <paranojikaz> hello
[17:09] <MrObvious> Omegacenti: You could resize it just fine probably.
[17:09] <rredd4> celsocll  i installed the adobe player 9 from adobe web site, followed instructions given and it works
[17:09] <RealityGone> ahhh... i came to ask about the "403 forbidden" update. but the topic has answered my question. thank you guys =)
[17:09] <paranojikaz> i need help
[17:09] <Omegacenti> MrObvious huh?
[17:09] <Omegacenti> MrObvious I mean buy the tablet without them making me pay for windows cista
[17:09] <MrObvious> Omegacenti: It's in the LiveCD under GParted.
[17:09] <paranojikaz> hoew to make ubuntu reorganize all devices again
[17:09] <skoruppa> hello i have big problem. All ubuntus after 6.10 dont want to work. I see kernel panic :/ "kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill the idle task"
[17:09] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52439/
[17:09] <MrObvious> Omegacenti: Oh you're stuck.
[17:09] <kiista> Hi.
[17:10] <paranojikaz> i mean reconfigure them
[17:10] <Omegacenti> MrObvious and that makes me mad.
[17:10] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, thats a script that just needs to be saved and executed
[17:10] <Task> !ftpd
[17:10] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[17:10] <MrObvious> Omegacenti: Just remove it.
[17:10] <Omegacenti> Is dell the only one to proactively offer Ubuntu?
[17:10] <DRebellion> !msgthebot | Task
[17:10] <ubotu> Task: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[17:10] <Omegacenti> MrObvious but it increases the cost of the computer.
[17:10] <skoruppa> someone can help?
[17:10] <MrObvious> cristi01: Sorry.
[17:10] <DRebellion> !ask | skoruppa
[17:10] <ubotu> skoruppa: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:11] <paranojikaz> MY INTERNET CONNECTION IS GONE , IT SAYS THERES NO ANY ET DEVICE
[17:11] <Kibble> MrObvious: look at http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=616&num=3
[17:11] <MrObvious> skoruppa: I'm a little busy otherwise I would.
[17:11] <MrObvious> paranojikaz: Easy on caps.
[17:11] <Task> Whats the best FTPD Graphical interface to use on Ubuntu 7.10?
[17:11] <paranojikaz> BUT IT WAS BE4
[17:11] <tim167> MrObvious, ok thanks, have to look for a bigger drive then...
[17:11] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, here is the read me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52440/
[17:11] <MrObvious> tim167: YW.
[17:11] <paranojikaz> i just want to be heard
[17:11] <th0r> paranojikaz we can't hear you....talk louder
[17:11] <Omegacenti> MrObvious doesn't that increase the initial cost of buying the tablet pc?
[17:11] <celsocll> MrObvious, no, but its not the problem. My real problem is after i tried to install flashplugin i cant use the apt-get couse apt-get will try to install flashplugin again....
[17:11] <MrObvious> !caps | paranojikaz
[17:11] <ubotu> paranojikaz: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[17:11] <kiista> I have booted ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso and the boot process was ended in the busybox shell. There where some erros about some failed folder creations. :-/
[17:11] <dapatrick> Is anyone having trouble starting certain X applications since latest xserver-xorg-core update?
[17:12] <paranojikaz> k k
[17:12] <dapatrick> Please pardon me if that's already been discussed.
[17:12] <MrObvious> Omegacenti: They get some license that makes it cheaper. IDK.
[17:12] <RealityGone> dapatrick, i think that is in the topic
[17:12] <Task> Whats the best FTPD program with Graphical interface to use on Ubuntu 7.10?
[17:12] <MrObvious> celsocll: The link pasted by ubotu will help.
[17:12] <skoruppa> noone can help...?
[17:12] <beasty_> anyone knows if there is a X11 support channel ?
[17:12] <DRebellion> Task: depends what you prefer ;)
[17:12] <paranojikaz> what dz it makes ah those caps
[17:12] <dapatrick> RealityGone: a, sweet.
[17:13] <Omegacenti> MrObvious <-- wants a world where Ubuntu is offered everywhere windows is.
[17:13] <BoltClock> think i should stop wasting my time here
[17:13] <dapatrick> Thanks for that.  I'm having trouble with Eclipse, so that makes sense.
[17:13] <m3rls> Does anybody know a good MTA/SMTP/POP Server combo which'll support smtp auth and won't force me to use SSL or hard code IP ranges for relaying like postfix is trying to make me do?
[17:13] <Task> DRebellion, Anything really.. I havent tried anything on linux before but need to setup a FTP
[17:13] <BlueFusion|away> Omegacenti, just peel off the vista sticker and resell it.
[17:13] <MrObvious> Holy moly I'm lost sorry. lol
[17:13] <Task> Thats why I am asking for a opinion
[17:13] <rredd4> BoltClock  we don't have the answer to all questions, sorry
[17:13] <MrObvious> Omegacenti: It's not hard to remove. It's practically in the cost everywhere so get used to it.
[17:14] <paranojikaz> its always like that when u tryin run away from one shit (*windows) u get another (ubuntu)
[17:14] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, need any more help...
[17:14] <rinaldi_> celsocll: go to http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash and follow instructions
[17:14] <celsocll> MrObvious: Thks!
[17:14] <MrObvious> !language | paradon
[17:14] <ubotu> paradon: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:14] <MrObvious> !language | paranojikaz
[17:14] <ubotu> paranojikaz: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:14] <MrObvious> Whoops.
[17:14] <th0r> Task there are two fairly popular gui ftp programs, gftp and filezilla
[17:14] <celsocll> rinaldi_: thks!
[17:14] <Schmallon> Does a public log of this channel exist?
[17:14] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: i'm looking through the help I already got :p
[17:14] <paranojikaz> i didnt hurt anyone
[17:14] <MrObvious> !log
[17:14] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ - See also « /msg ubotu ircstats »
[17:14] <LjL> !logs > Schmallon    (Schmallon, see the private message from Ubotu)
[17:14] <Task> ok thanks th0r
[17:15] <PhobiaBB> anybody care to help me with some ipod on ubuntu trouble
[17:15] <Schmallon> thanks
[17:15] <MrObvious> !ask | PhobiaBB
[17:15] <paranojikaz> i named things its real name
[17:15] <ubotu> PhobiaBB: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:15] <DRebellion> !anyone | PhobiaBB
[17:15] <th0r> Task I have had better luck with gftp, but filezilla is probably more polished
[17:15] <ubotu> PhobiaBB: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[17:15] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hello
[17:15] <celsocll> Oh my!
[17:15] <MrObvious> Howdy Kamus_H_Zwisch
[17:15] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> clflush size    : 64(that means my cpu is 64 bit?)
[17:15] <celsocll> Its possible the problem was solve!
[17:15] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, no probs lol... just so you know that executable script it the simplest method.. headache free
[17:16] <orangePnut> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Conexant   would the Open Source drivers work on ubuntu 7.10?
[17:16] <Rei-chan> To install rails, its just apt-get install rails <- I do not need to build the rails chain through gem in Ubuntu, correct?
[17:16] <vegpuff> !dictd
[17:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dictd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:16] <stf> th0r: YAY! it worked finally =)
[17:16] <paranojikaz> MrObvious, just tell me how to make ubuntu reconfigure devices or just one netcard
[17:16] <th0r> stf...did the xdefaults work?
[17:16] <MrObvious> Kamus_H_Zwisch: What kind of CPU is it?
[17:16] <PhobiaBB> i am trying to set my ipod up on ubuntu and i need help
[17:16] <paranojikaz> its easy on windows
[17:16] <vegpuff> how do i install dictd
[17:16] <DRebellion> !ask | PhobiaBB
[17:16] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: it seems as though it's geared towards a 64bit installation- is 64bit neccessary?
[17:16] <ubotu> PhobiaBB: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:16] <Rei-chan> !rails
[17:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rails - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:16] <MrObvious> paradon: You can blacklist the module you don't want in question by adding it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[17:17] <DRebellion> !info dictd | vegpuff
[17:17] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> is a celeron P4 based(the cpuinfo say that is 64 bit, i already think it is a 32bit oO)
[17:17] <celsocll> It seem the problem with flash is solved!
[17:17] <stf> th0r: no, it was ignored. so I found an updated deb that uses the font "fixed" instead of helvetica. some more fooling around and presto.
[17:17] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, do you have a 64 bit cpu
[17:17] <jaggy> anyone knows any good portscanners ? ( not nmap .. )
[17:17] <celsocll> MrObvious:  It seem the problem with flash is solved!
[17:17] <ubotu> vegpuff: dictd: Dictionary Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.10.2-3.1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 134 kB, installed size 428 kB
[17:17] <Rei-chan> jaggy: nessius? :)
[17:17] <PhobiaBB> ipod trouble
[17:17] <rinaldi_> PhobiaBB: please state the problem and then someone may just help
[17:17] <th0r> stf glad you got it working...xdefaults was a shot in the dark <smile>
[17:17] <stf> :)
[17:17] <MrObvious> Kamus_H_Zwisch: Do you know which Celeron? It should say the CPU model number in cat /proc/cpuinfo
[17:17] <MrObvious> celsocll: Great!
[17:17] <jcade> Can someone help a total noob set up wpa_supplicant for an encrypted network (at a university)?
[17:17] <PhobiaBB> configure ipod on amarok
[17:18] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> processor       : 0
[17:18] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
[17:18] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> cpu family      : 15
[17:18] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> model           : 2
[17:18] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> model name      : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.50GHz
[17:18] <MrObvious> PhobiaBB: What exactly is wrong?
[17:18] <FloodBot1> Kamus_H_Zwisch: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:18] <partypants> Can I install snort on gutsy?
[17:18] <MrObvious> !pastebin
[17:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:18] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> sorry, mr bot
[17:18] <jaggy> Rei-chan, already got that one , but i just van't get how to set that server thing ok :s
[17:18] <paranojikaz> is there any device manager in ubuntu
[17:18] <PhobiaBB> i just dont know how to configure the ipod on ubuntu
[17:18] <Task> th0r.... gftp lets you run a FTP server?
[17:18] <MrObvious> !info snort
[17:18] <ubotu> snort: Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.0-6 (gutsy), package size 455 kB, installed size 1060 kB
[17:18] <MrObvious> partypants: Yes.
[17:18] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, here is the original thread for that script anyway http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476924
[17:18] <th0r> Task no...you didn't ask for a server <smile>.
[17:18] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: yes
[17:18] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> MrObvious: did you see?
[17:18] <rinaldi_> paranojikaz: system- preferences - hardware informatioin
[17:18] <celsocll> !flash
[17:18] <Task> yeh... a FTPD is usually a server
[17:18] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[17:18] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[17:18] <MrObvious> !ipod > PhobiaBB
[17:19] <Task> lol
[17:19] <PhobiaBB> yes?
[17:19] <th0r> Task for server side there is a gui front end for pureftpd...might be one for vsftpd also
[17:19] <MrObvious> Kamus_H_Zwisch: No sorry. I'm trying to help 16 people at once lol.
[17:19] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, then install 64 bit gutsy.. its worth it believe me :)
[17:19] <Task> ok cool thanks again lol
[17:19] <MrObvious> PhobiaBB: Check your PMs for what ubotu sent.
[17:19] <paranojikaz> rinaldi_, i need real dm to reconfigure device romove it n put it back
[17:19] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, pointless not to really
[17:19] <th0r> Task sorry...didn't see the d if it was there.
[17:19] <partypants> !snort
[17:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snort - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:19] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: will it run all apps?
[17:19] <dapatrick> !ubotu
[17:19] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[17:19] <MrObvious> partypants: What are you trying to do exactly?
[17:19] <dapatrick> I love ubotu.
[17:20] <magnetron> !msgthebot > partypants
[17:20] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, anything that does not run in native 64 bit can be run with the 32 bit libs
[17:20] <MrObvious> partypants: You can just do sudo apt-get install snort if you don't know how to install a package named snort.
[17:20] <dennda> Were the access-rights for todays (yesterdays?) xserver-xorg-core changed to prevent people from installing this buggy version?
[17:20] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, so you have nothing to loose
[17:20] <partypants> oh ok, I will try that
[17:20] <dennda> (I mean on purpose)
[17:20] <PhobiaBB> it isn't syncing my music, its just trying to get amarok to recognize it
[17:20] <dapatrick> dennda: seems so.
[17:20] <dennda> quite clever
[17:20] <MrObvious> partypants: :)
[17:20] <dapatrick> Does anyone know off hand how to rever xserver-xorg-core?
[17:20] <partypants> thanks MrObvious
[17:20] <MrObvious> !ipod | PhobiaBB
[17:20] <ubotu> PhobiaBB: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[17:20] <dapatrick> meant to say "know off hand how to revert"
[17:21] <partypants> Sorry I am a linux n00b
[17:21] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: you're speaking chinese, as far as i can tell :)
[17:21] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> can anyone pass to me the script of this bot? it is very smart :D
[17:21] <jcade> !wpa_supplicant
[17:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wpa_supplicant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:21] <Kibble> !pamela
[17:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pamela - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:21] <MrObvious> !xbug | dapatrick
[17:21] <ubotu> dapatrick: The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[17:22] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, then no worries.. you will love how quick 64 bit can be :)
[17:22] <Kibble> hmmm
[17:22] <tim167> how do i check if my current boot partition is on sda or on sdb ?
[17:22] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: a noob wouldn't have trouble running all apps?
[17:22] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, not at all
[17:22] <jcade> !search wpa_supplicant
[17:22] <ubotu> Found:
[17:22] <nemo> Latest ubuntu Xorg update seems to be making it impossible for me to run eclipse
[17:22] <astabeno> I am trying to change my screen resolution in Ubuntu 7.10 through System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution, but when I make the change it never changes the resolution, it does give me a dialog asking if I want to keep the resolution but it never changes.  Any Ideas
[17:22] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, any trouble anyway and you have us :)
[17:23] <nemo> is there any way I can revery whatever changes were made? I see SecurityPolicy was altered
[17:23] <Lilacor> tim167: 'fdisk -l'
[17:23] <nemo> but no backup was made
[17:23] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: what's the difference between server and desktop distros?
[17:23] <partypants> MrObvius: apt-get never works for me, it can't find any packages.
[17:23] <paranojikaz> internet connection is gone on ubuntu , can.t recognize anty net devise wot to do ?
[17:23] <KingDaver> Hi does anyone have any idea when the flash will be fixed?
[17:23] <MrObvious> !xbug > nemo (check PMs nemo)
[17:23] <vegpuff> thanks, ubotu!
[17:23] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, are you looking to run a server
[17:23] <tim167> Lilacor thanks!
[17:23] <Lilacor> tim167: you're welcome
[17:23] <ojwb> ah, I see you're already aware of the security repo problem
[17:23] <MrObvious> vegpuff: ubotu is a bot. I posted it.
[17:23] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: it took me 2 weeks to get online with the ubuntu i already have
[17:23] <Paddy_EIRE> :/
[17:23] <MrObvious> vegpuff: But YW.
[17:23] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: as a matter of fact i am
[17:23] <cliebow> anyone using lsi 1020/1030 on gutsy???
[17:23] <QuickGold> Kibble: Sounds to me like you want standard Ubuntu
[17:23] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, how come it took 2 weeks
[17:23] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: at least i want to develop one
[17:24] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: because my ISP uses some archaic connection method
[17:24] <Paddy_EIRE> well use the desktop Kibble till you familiarise yourself
[17:24] <QuickGold> ISDN? lol
[17:24] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: so i had to install and configure myself
[17:24] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, oh I see..
[17:24] <nemo> MrObvious: thanks mrobvious
[17:24] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, did you take note of what you had to do?
[17:24] <MrObvious> nemik: YW.
[17:24] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: yes
[17:24] <paranojikaz> this fucking "friendly family" sucks
[17:25] <Lilacor> haha
[17:25] <MrObvious> Thanks LjL
[17:25]  * Rei-chan thought we just typed !language | idiot?
[17:25] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: if you run into any1 connection to netvision.net.il through cable tell him he's in for a workout
[17:25] <MrObvious> Rei-chan: I already did a while back.
[17:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, so next time you need to configure your net connection you should have no trouble
[17:25] <Rei-chan> Ah, a failure at life. k.
[17:25] <PhobiaBB> thank you, i am going to try this
[17:25] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: yes, i've had to 4+times already
[17:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, sounds irritating
[17:26] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: i have a recurring problem with my graphics configuration that mystifies me
[17:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, trust me with using the 64 bit desktop install
[17:26] <tim167> Lilacor, fdisk -l says the same about sda and sdb, they are both shown as linux boot, but i need to know which one of the two i am on _now_...
[17:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, whats with gfx
[17:26] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: only symptom is a black flickering of the screen every once and awhile
[17:26] <Lilacor> tim167: both show a linux boot partition??
[17:26] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[17:26] <Johnson> anyone notice desktop switcher doesn't work with desktop effects.
[17:26] <Kibble> i have nvidia driver, using geforce 7700 and compiz
[17:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, gfx card/chipset
[17:27] <PriceChild> Johnson, works fine for me
[17:27] <Kibble> (i speak like i know what i'm talking about)
[17:27] <MrObvious> Johnson: Desktop effects are very buggy it seems.
[17:27] <MrObvious> Whoops lost kibble.
[17:27] <MrObvious> lol
[17:27] <tim167> Lilacor: yes, that is because one disk is a failed ubuntu install, which i want to overwrite with a successful one...
[17:27] <Kibble_> netsplit
[17:27] <Lilacor> tim167: find out what kernel you're using and then look at the grub.conf statements
[17:27] <Kibble_> Paddy_EIRE: did you get my specs above?
[17:27] <Paddy_EIRE> yep
[17:27] <Kibble_> k
[17:28] <Lilacor> tim167: 'uname -a'
[17:28] <Devilson> hy all i am new in linux
[17:28] <Johnson_> PriceChild, does dragging dropping from switcher windows work
[17:28] <MrObvious> Devilson: welcome!
[17:28] <Devilson> i need some help
[17:28] <Devilson> please
[17:28] <bruenig> !please
[17:28] <ubotu> Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[17:28] <PriceChild> Johnson_, oh that might not work.
[17:28] <MrObvious> Devilson: Just ask your question.
[17:28] <Kibble_> Paddy_EIRE: i'm downloading now
[17:28] <Rei-chan> Devilson: What is your question, just state it.
[17:29] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble_, have you been to #compiz-fusion with this problem aswell ?
[17:29] <rinaldi_> !ask | devilson
[17:29] <ubotu> devilson: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:29] <Kibble_> Paddy_EIRE: join #kibble?
[17:29] <Rei-chan> :( I'm too slow. :(
[17:29] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[17:29] <Kibble_> yeah they don't help
[17:29] <KingDaver> when will flash be fixed anyone know?
[17:29] <Devilson> i want to join youtube but i need flash drivers
[17:29] <tim167> Lilacor: i cant find any file named grub.conf
[17:30] <LjL> !flash > Devilson    (Devilson, see the private message from Ubotu)
[17:30] <genii> tim167: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:30] <Lilacor> tim167: it'll be underneath /boot/grub
[17:30] <sideshow_> hallo
[17:30] <ironeye> hi i copied the files to a cd but its still asking for a cd!
[17:30] <Devilson> thanks
[17:30] <Devilson> :*
[17:31] <anderswc_> ZionPsyfer, are you there? :)
[17:31] <ironeye> hi i copied the files to a cd but its still asking for a cd!
[17:31] <rinaldi_> ironeye: what do you mean, are you installing?
[17:31] <ironeye> yea
[17:31] <Rei-chan> ironeye: How did you copy the files.
[17:31] <rinaldi_> ironeye: did you burn the iso as an image or data?
[17:31] <kevin_> I'd like Hardy Heron renamed to Hungry Hippo. Who should I talk to about that?
[17:32] <KingDaver> Devilson did you get an answer?
[17:32] <LjL> kevin_: nobody, it won't happen.
[17:32] <LjL> !ot > kevin_    (kevin_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[17:32] <tdn> DRebellion, I do not have a keyboard, nor a monitor :(
[17:32] <ironeye> how do i check
[17:32] <rinaldi_> ironeye: what burning app did you use?
[17:33] <ironeye> My CD Writer
[17:33] <rinaldi_> ironeye: ok, app means program, like nero or k3b
[17:33] <ironeye> record now dx
[17:33] <Rei-chan> ironeye: Did you take the file you downloaded, then drop it into My CD Writer, then burned that file to the CD?
[17:34] <rinaldi_> ironeye: so you used windows
[17:34] <ironeye> yea
[17:34] <Rei-chan> ironeye: Do you ave a real windows burning program? Nero, Roxio, etc?
[17:34] <ironeye> it came with laptop lol
[17:35] <Rei-chan> ironeye: So, no. Ok.
[17:35] <rinaldi_> ironeye: download this http://www.dvddecrypter.org.uk/ and use it to write the ISO
[17:35] <Rei-chan> rinaldi_: Know of an open source burning ... that works. :)
[17:36] <thrice> hi there. got a problem with azureus, can anyone help me?
[17:36] <LjL> !xbug > thrice    (thrice, see the private message from Ubotu)
[17:36] <rinaldi_> Rei-chan: ;-)
[17:37] <rinaldi_> !anyone|thrice
[17:37] <ubotu> thrice: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[17:38] <azlon> !dualhead
[17:38] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[17:39] <ASTX813> I'm trying to print a PDF from the command line and it keeps cutting off the top & bottom.  I know it's not the document or the printer, because if I print from the GUI it comes out fine.  Thoughts?
[17:40] <azlon> !xinerama
[17:40] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[17:41] <solid_liq> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb  403 Forbidden
[17:41] <solid_liq> ummmm??????  ^^
[17:41] <neverblue> solid_liq, its all god
[17:41] <solid_liq> oh, heh, topic
[17:41] <neverblue> solid_liq, broken package
[17:41] <nu2buntu> #ubuntu
[17:41] <ironeye> ok i got the dvd dycripter
[17:41] <solid_liq> the security repo is currently broken, according to the topic
[17:42] <nu2buntu> hi ...i need a help
[17:42] <neverblue> solid_liq, that package is broken as well
[17:42] <neverblue> hello nu2buntu
[17:42] <solid_liq> use k3b to burn an iso :)
[17:42] <solid_liq> use k3b to burn any disc, actually
[17:43] <DOOM_NX> how is ubuntu's default file browser called?
[17:43] <ironeye> ok i got the dvd dycripter, how does it work
[17:43] <solid_liq> nautilus, under gnome
[17:43] <DOOM_NX> thanks
[17:43] <solid_liq> dolphin under kde 4 ;)
[17:43] <azlon> when i search for Xinerama in my Package Manager it says it is already installed... how do i run it now so i can get my second display working?
[17:43] <solid_liq> ironeye, what dvd decrypter?
[17:44] <solid_liq> azlon, what kind of video card?
[17:44] <stooge> where can i find help on windows vista boot log? i tried using the rescue disk that i made when i bought the computer, but it did not help. i was duel booting with kubuntu and had prob with graphics drivers, would like to put ubuntu on system instead. hope that nvidia drivers work better with ubuntu.
[17:44] <rinaldi_> solid_liq: hes in windows and cant burn an iso
[17:44] <azlon> nvidia geforce something...
[17:44] <nu2buntu> i want to share my internet connection ... i'm connected through an onboard ethernet card which ubuntu reads as eth1 ... while the other card which i want to share with is read as eth0 (this pc uses WinXP) i tried by following tutorials on the net... but i always mess it up ... please guide me on thi
[17:44] <solid_liq> rinaldi_, oh, well there's some free burner app for windows, if he googles for it
[17:44] <einhorn> anyone a easy to use 64bit flash howto at hand? the one from the wiki doesn't work for me
[17:44] <solid_liq> azlon, then use the nvidia-settings utility for that
[17:45] <ironeye> i already had dvd dycripter on here
[17:45] <rinaldi_> ironeye: go to tools at the top i think and go to write- iso / image
[17:45] <ironeye> ok
[17:45] <azlon> solid_liq: just search the nvidia site for linux?
[17:45] <nu2buntu> nee help on internet connection sharing ...from ubuntu (eth1) to winxp (eth0)
[17:45] <solid_liq> azlon, apt-get install nvidia-settings
[17:45] <rinaldi_> ironeye: can't quite remember the gui well. then go to "open" and grab your ubuntu iso, click burn and you're away
[17:46] <stooge> sorry i ment boot manager, not boot log
[17:46] <solid_liq> azlon, then run nvidia-settings
[17:46] <anderswc_> anybody know how to switch workspaces with the keyboard?
[17:46] <azlon> solid_liq: thanks!
[17:46] <solid_liq> azlon, np
[17:46] <solid_liq> azlon, if you hold on a sec...
[17:46] <ironeye> err what folder is the .iso in?
[17:47] <azlon> solid_liq: sup?
[17:47] <rinaldi_> ironeye: wherever you downloaded it too originally
[17:47] <agruman> heya, im trying to install ubuntu onto my system however it just hangs at random when in X, and im starting to think that its something with my gfx (ati hd2600xt), however since im unable to complete the installation i cant compile a new one, anyone here that has a working install with a ati card?
[17:48] <rinaldi_> ironeye: wherever you downloaded it to originally
[17:48] <solid_liq> azlon, okay, had to run that utility to check my config.  Set it to twinview.  That's what I use, and I think you'll like it best probably
[17:48] <nu2buntu> i need help ... i want to share my internet connection to a winxp pc ... i followed guides on the net... but i always mess it up... the ethernet card which i'm connected to is eth1 ... while the winxp is readed as eth0 ... i always mess it with this ..since all tutorials available assumes that eth0 = server ...please help
[17:48] <ironeye> cant find any .iso in there
[17:48] <DRebellion> !repeat | nu2buntu
[17:48] <ubotu> nu2buntu: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:48] <azlon> solid_liq: awesome, thanks
[17:48] <profanephobia> Seveas, u banned me didnt you :)
[17:48] <rinaldi_> ironeye: well if you can't find it you check the recycle bin if not just download it again
[17:48] <DRebellion> nu2buntu: any jmore detailed information about what goes wrong?
[17:48] <lawren> list
[17:49] <solid_liq> nu2buntu, change the eth0's in the tutorials to eth1 then ;)
[17:49] <solid_liq> azlon, sure, np
[17:49] <smultron> i'm trying to install IEs 4 linux, but the new python-gtk installer keeps giving me a segfault error
[17:49] <nu2buntu> solid : i did that ! i always mess it up... i'm new to linux ..i just migrated today ...i just installed it
[17:49] <rinaldi_> ironeye: originally, where did you download it off?
[17:50] <solid_liq> nu2buntu, and you changed the eth1's to eth0?
[17:50] <ironeye> ubunto webpage
[17:50] <solid_liq> nu2buntu, are you using iptables commands with the tuts?
[17:50] <azlon> solid_liq: i just downloaded the nvidia settings, but i dont see it in my applications menu... where can i find it (sorry, 2nd day using ubuntu)
[17:50] <nu2buntu> drebellion : i'm connected as eth1 now (onboard ethernet)  ... the other card is read as eth0
[17:50] <ironeye> the main folder is called ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386
[17:50] <ironeye> is that correct
[17:50] <nu2buntu> solid : i tried the masquerade tuts
[17:51] <x-X-x> i need help running iriver plus 3. Ive installed it all was great but njow i cant run it and when i run it through terminal i get this: err:module:LdrInitializeThunk "iDeviceM.dll" failed to initialize, aborting
[17:51] <x-X-x>  err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\Program Files\\iriver\\iriver plus 3\\iPlus3.exe" failed, status c0000142
[17:51] <rinaldi_> ironeye: well the iso comes just as an iso with no folder, thats usually the name of the iso
[17:51] <skoruppa> ubuntu kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill the idle task - someone can help?
[17:51] <ironeye> so perhaps i downloaded the wrong files
[17:51] <RatThing> !webcam
[17:51] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[17:52] <nu2buntu> solid : i'm trying to set it up now... would you guide for me if i have some doubts ?
[17:52] <neverblue> x-X-x, using wine, I imagine, try in #winehq
[17:52] <rinaldi_> ironeye: so it's an actual folder named that with nothing in it?
[17:52] <solid_liq> nu2buntu, have you done:  echo '1' > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[17:52] <solid_liq> nu2buntu, ?
[17:52] <ironeye> yer there is thigns like firefox the email thingy
[17:52] <solid_liq> nu2buntu, and you should be able to press the tab key after you type solid to autocomplete my nick ;)
[17:52] <suzachild> Bonsoir à tous
[17:53] <DRebellion> !msgthebot | RatThing
[17:53] <ubotu> RatThing: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[17:54] <nu2buntu> thx solid_liq: thx ... i'm using a weird app now... lol ... i'm only used to mirc ..lol ... sorry to mention it here :p
[17:54] <rinaldi_> ironeye: hmm ok just download this http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso and burn it like i said
[17:54] <suzachild> je viens de créer un nouvel utilisateur à l'aide de la commande useradd mais je n'arrive pas à jouer de la musique
[17:54] <rickest> trying to update xorg-server is giving me a '403 Forbidden' error. anyone knows what to do?
[17:54] <solid_liq> nu2buntu, it's only "weird" because you haven't used it before ;)
[17:55] <sofbored> is anyone having trouble with vlc player after today update on 6.06?
[17:55] <Rei-chan> Is there an Ubuntu analog to te rc-script add command in Gentoo?
[17:55] <solid_liq> nu2buntu, when you get used to the apps under linux, you'll find you like them better, because of all the extra useful features they have which their windows counterparts are lacking
[17:55] <ironeye> thats the folder i already got
[17:55] <Rei-chan> I want to add a /etc/init.d/<prog> to startup in CLI mode.
[17:55] <solid_liq> Rei-chan, there are a ton of debian commands for working with rc files
[17:55] <rinaldi_> ironeye: that isnt a folder its an iso file, you just use that whole thing
[17:56] <ironeye> it downloads as a folder
[17:56] <suzachild> du moins je n'entends aucun son
[17:56] <solid_liq> Rei-chan, start with man update-rc.d
[17:56] <neverblue> !fr | suzachild
[17:56] <ubotu> suzachild: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:56] <rinaldi_> ironeye: looks like you already have it, so burn that "folder" as you call it the way i said
[17:56] <suzachild> merci
[17:56] <neverblue> your welcome suzachild
[17:56] <QuickGold> ca ne fais rien :)
[17:57] <suzachild> thank you
[17:57] <bcardarella> I'm getting an error when trying to download the latest xserver update: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52446/     any ideas?
[17:57] <soulrider> bcardarella, sudo aptitude update
[17:58] <solid_liq> bcardarella, /topic
[17:58] <Kibble_> !xbug
[17:58] <soulrider> oh
[17:58] <ubotu> The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[17:58] <soulrider> so X was breaking stuff?
[17:58] <DRebellion> *sigh*  so now we have no flash nor java :/
[17:58] <bcardarella> soild_liq: ahh.. missed that in the topic. Thanks
[17:58] <solid_liq> bcardarella, np
[17:59] <solid_liq> soulrider, no, it was a badly created package for X
[17:59] <soulrider> sao theya re recompiling it?
[18:00] <ocha> im trying to import a reg file from windows for my adobe photoshop cs2 file.  but i can't get this command to work "name@name:~/.wine$ ls
[18:00] <ocha> adobe.reg  dosdevices  drive_c  system.reg  userdef.reg  user.reg
[18:00] <ocha> name@name:~/.wine$ $ recode ucs-2..ascii adobe.reg
[18:00] <ocha> bash: $: command not found"   Please help me.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4160297
[18:00] <solid_liq> soulrider, redoing the package, I'm sure
[18:00] <ironeye> my pc thinks that folder is a RAR thingy
[18:01] <solid_liq> soulrider, a package won't necessarily be bad due to the way it was compiled...  it can be meta data or directory structure problems too
[18:01] <BarbaraSalesch> hello. Is it possible for instance i am running Gutsy ... and i would like to change my repos to Dapper and then:-->  /home/myfolder # aptitude update $$ aptitude download <package>   then change my repos back to Gutsy and # aptitude update .... the download option doesnt install , only downloads the packages.... would this mess up my system ?
[18:01] <rinaldi_> ironeye: yes winrar is the default app at the moment, open up the app you just downloaded, and choose to write an iso, then choose "open" and find the file
[18:01] <ocha> im trying to import a reg file from windows for my adobe photoshop cs2 file.  but i can't get this command to work "$ $ recode ucs-2..ascii adobe.reg~~bash: $: command not found"   Please help me.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4160297
[18:01] <rvega_arg> somebody from ubuntu team here? the last ubuntu update has permission problems with: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb
[18:02] <stump139> problem with update
[18:02] <stump139> !xbug
[18:02] <ubotu> The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[18:02] <azlon> solid_liq: i just restarted and now my second monitor has the desktop on it, but its cloned. now my resolution is 800x600 too...
[18:02] <MrObvious> ocha: You have two dots in that command.
[18:02] <MrObvious> ocha: Check for typonese.
[18:02] <MrObvious> !xbug | rvega_arg
[18:02] <ubotu> rvega_arg: please see above
[18:02] <solid_liq> azlon, uh, how did you set it?
[18:03] <MrObvious> BarbaraSalesch: Why?
[18:03] <azlon> solid_liq: i went into my System menu, then click on Resolution or something like that
[18:03] <azlon> selected the option to enable the second monitor
[18:03] <solid_liq> azlon, no, as I said, run nvidia-settings
[18:03] <ocha> mrobvious: ill try that. i did a direct copy off the howto.... brb
[18:03] <rvega_arg> thanks ubotu
[18:03] <SpookyET> Hi. How do you make the Upload Manager download install ALL UPDATES automatically in the background without asking for permission? I just looked at my family box and there were a ton of updates to download.
[18:03] <solid_liq> azlon, you need to use the nvidia-settings utility, because the gnome ones don't work well enough yet
[18:04] <DRebellion> !bot | rvega_arg
[18:04] <azlon> solid_liq: i know, but i couldnt find it so i thought that was it... where can i find the nvidia settings? i looked in all the menus
[18:04] <ubotu> rvega_arg: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:04] <BarbaraSalesch> MrObvious, i want to download some packages and deps
[18:04] <solid_liq> azlon, then open a shell and type, nvidia-settings
[18:04] <azlon> solid_liq: got it... brb
[18:04] <solid_liq> azlon, or hit alt-f2 and type it
[18:04] <MrObvious> SpookyET: A good way is to do via command line sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and it'll only need the password once.
[18:04] <DRebellion> SpookyET: you could create a cron job to run sudo apt-get update every 24 hours
[18:04] <MrObvious> BarbaraSalesch: Which packages? I would advise against what you're trying to do.
[18:05] <MrObvious> !cron | SpookyET
[18:05] <ubotu> SpookyET: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[18:05] <DRebellion> SpookyET: and edit the sudoers file to allow no password for apt-get
[18:05] <solid_liq> DRebellion, if it's a cron job, you don't want it to run 'sudo apt-get update'
[18:05] <solid_liq> DRebellion, bad idea
[18:05] <DRebellion> solid_liq: does cron already have root privs?
[18:05] <solid_liq> DRebellion, just add it:  crontab -eu root
[18:05] <azlon> solid_liq: when i run it, it gives me a program with only 5 check boxes... is that it?
[18:05] <solid_liq> DRebellion, then it'll run as the root user
[18:06] <DRebellion> solid_liq: oh ok
[18:06] <mrmonday> I accidentally hit ctrl+c when running 'sudo ifdown eth0', and now ubuntu won't start, there was afile that it said was still there when trying to ifup, can anyone tell me the file, so I can delete it and be able to boot into ubuntu?
[18:06] <solid_liq> azlon, it should have a lot more than that
[18:06] <BarbaraSalesch> MrObvious, some from multiverse... why would you advise against this task ?
[18:06] <solid_liq> mrmonday, it's probably in /var/lock
[18:06] <MrObvious> BarbaraSalesch: Because it'll likely break your system. If it's in multiverse just enable it in your sources.list
[18:06] <MrObvious> !multiverse
[18:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[18:06] <un0p> SpookyET, having your updates installed automatically can give you some unwanted results .. things might change in applications as updates are released, and you might not always be best pleased with them
[18:06] <ocha> mrobvious: this is what i got?  "$ recode ucs-2.ascii adobe.reg~~~recode: Request `ucs-2.ascii' is erroneous~~~$ sudo wine regedit adobe.reg~~~wine: /home/midori/.wine is not owned by you"
[18:07] <BarbaraSalesch> enable the Dapper repos ?
[18:07] <ironeye> i dont have any options to write an ISO on winrar
[18:07] <azlon> solid_liq: how can i get the newest drivers for my card? is there a package i can download?
[18:07] <CarlFK> sudo apt-get install postgresql - after that I need to run psql --user foo  to create a user/db.  what is the default user/pw ?
[18:07] <solid_liq> azlon, nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new
[18:07] <un0p> CarlFK, the installer will ask you those questions --#
[18:08] <ocha> im trying to convert a reg file over to linux from windows and i am having a lot of problems.?  "$ recode ucs-2.ascii adobe.reg~~~recode: Request `ucs-2.ascii' is erroneous~~~$ sudo wine regedit adobe.reg~~~wine: /home/midori/.wine is not owned by you"
[18:08] <MrObvious> ocha: Permissions. I'd do sudo chmod +r /home/username/.wine replacing username with your username obviously.
[18:08] <un0p> ocha, what does ucs-2.ascii mean ? it's complaining about not understanding that term
[18:08] <rinaldi_> ironeye: dont use winrar! use the program i told you to download, install it, then click "mode" at the top and go to "iso > write". then click on "source" and navigate to the iso file. select it and then click on the big burn button.
[18:09] <CarlFK> un0p: are you sure?  I did it within the last week, and I don't remember that.  either way, how can I back up and apt-get it agein?
[18:09] <MrObvious> ocha: Which guide are you trying to follow?
[18:09] <ironeye> ahh sorry
[18:09] <un0p> CarlFK, just reconfigure postgresql -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow postgresql
[18:09] <spleencheesmonke> hi all. got a cracking question for you: i get "The GNOME session manager was unable to lock the file 'home/ubuntu/.ICEauthority'. Please report this as a GNOME bug. Sometimes this error may occur if the file's directory is unwritable, you could try logging in via the failsafe session and ensuring that it is." when trying to boot
[18:09] <spleencheesmonke> anyone?
[18:10] <tanner> anyone know of a good simple video editor? all i want to do is replace the audio track of one movie with another. i dont care if its CLI =)
[18:10] <CarlFK> un0p: it just returned me to a prompt.  no questions, no output
[18:10] <chx> hi. I am looking for an ftp program which is able to download one big file in multiple threads.
[18:10] <SpookyET> un0p: But, if I don't look at my parent's PC, it never gets updated
[18:10] <MrObvious> chx: I would use Firefox with the Downthemall extension.
[18:10] <CarlFK> tanner: lives (or something like that ...)  lives is vie edit...)
[18:10] <Iradieh> Can you see that?
[18:11] <ocha> mrobvious: http://luiscosio.com/how-to-adobe-photoshop-cs2-on-ubuntu-10-steps
[18:11] <chx> MrObvious: that can do that...? surely it can DL parallel but... okay.
[18:11] <un0p> SpookyET, well, that can be a good thing -- new does not always mean best eh
[18:11] <azlon> solid_liq: ok, i downloaded the new version of the nvidia drivers, now when i run the nvidia settings it tells me i need to run nvidia-xconfig. when i try running that, it says i dont have access to write to directory '/etc/X11'.
[18:11] <evan__> hey how to remove the official nvidia 169.07 driver?
[18:11] <ProN0ob> omg, security broken
[18:11] <Scottc> Is it possible to install ubuntu without burning it to a CD?
[18:12] <Iradieh> Scottc USB
[18:12] <QuickGold> Scottc: Yes, you can do a network install
[18:12] <CarlFK> Scottc: yes - net install.
[18:12] <Scottc> whats a net install?
[18:12] <Iradieh> Net install usually requires CD as well
[18:12] <DRebellion> !install | Scottc
[18:12] <ubotu> Scottc: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[18:12] <Iradieh> Can anyone see that WMPA ?
[18:13] <azlon> how can i run a program as an admin?
[18:13] <DRebellion> !sudo | azlon
[18:13] <ubotu> azlon: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[18:13] <CarlFK> Scottc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LocalNet
[18:13] <rredd4> I did sudo apt-get update, what is this error?  GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com gutsy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY
[18:13] <rredd4> sorry
[18:13] <ironeye> ok so dvd decrypter is working its magic, will i have any hardware compatabilite issues with my latop when i install? as obv this is desgined for windows
[18:13] <azlon> solid_liq: ok, i downloaded the new version of the nvidia drivers, now when i run the nvidia settings it tells me i need to run nvidia-xconfig. when i try running that, it says i dont have access to write to directory '/etc/X11'.
[18:13] <SpookyET> Why does everyone in ubuntu keep saying "apt-get" while everyone in debian says "aptitude"?
[18:13] <un0p> rredd4, google that phrase :)
[18:13] <RenaTo> bye
[18:14] <DRebellion> SpookyET: aptitude is a front-end for apt-get
[18:14] <un0p> CarlFK, take a look here - http://edin.no-ip.com/html/?q=debian_etch_postgresql_8_1_phppgadmin_mini_howto
[18:14] <weilawei> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb  403 Forbidden
[18:14] <Pici> weilawei: see topic.
[18:14] <weilawei> plzfix
[18:14] <nu2buntu> solid_liq: i got an error when i entered this apt-get install dnsmasq ipmasq ... it says could get package ... then i got disconnected... shall i repeat from the beginning
[18:14] <nu2buntu> ?
[18:14] <LjL> !xbug > weilawei    (weilawei, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:14] <weilawei> =D
[18:14] <Scottc> whats the difference between Feisty and Gutsy?
[18:15] <LjL> DRebellion: aptitude is not a front-end for apt-get, it never uses apt-get
[18:15] <LjL> !gutsy > scottc    (scottc, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:15] <rinaldi_> ironeye: no not usually, its good to load the cd and if the livecd works and sound works, you're on your way, if you encounter any problems this channel is always here
[18:15] <nu2buntu> i'm trying share my internet connection ... but is not that easy!
[18:15] <un0p> Scottc, they are different releases -- it's like asking what the difference between XP and Vista are?
[18:15] <Moniker42> Scottc, gutsy is the most recent version of ubuntu
[18:15] <Scottc> can you update from feisty to gutsy?
[18:15] <Moniker42> Scottc, yes
[18:15] <LjL> !upgrade > Scottc    (Scottc, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:15] <mrmonday> I hit ctrl+c while doing 'sudo ifdown eth0' in ubuntu, and it left a file lying around and I can't boot my PC now. Can anyone suggest what file this may be so I can delete it?
[18:15] <ironeye> ok thanks :P
[18:15] <poeloq> re
[18:15] <Moniker42> un0p, not exactly... xp to vista is more of a downgrade imo
[18:16] <nu2buntu> rinaldi_:  are you indonesian ?
[18:16] <poeloq> on a standard ubuntu 7.10 install is it possible to have kde, gnome and other wm installed at the same time?
[18:16] <LjL> poeloq: yes
[18:16] <DRebellion> poeloq: yes
[18:16] <bkar> mrmonday-> how do you know a file left lying around?
[18:16] <rinaldi_> nu2ubuntu: no im from london/uk
[18:16] <nu2buntu> rinaldi_:  i support arsenal :p
[18:16] <un0p> Moniker42, not exactly? thats an opinion, your opinion :) vista just happens to be the newest OS from M$ .. no debate about it
[18:17] <poeloq> is the kubuntu-package kde 4.0?
[18:17] <rinaldi_> nu2ubuntu: im pretty sure thats offtopic, but im a spurs fan
[18:17] <LjL> poeloq: no, kubuntu-desktop is kde 3.5.8
[18:17] <LjL> !kde4 > poeloq    (poeloq, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:17] <nu2buntu> anyway ... i failed again :( cant do ICS ... i got E: couldnt get package after this apt-get install dnsmasq ipmasq
[18:17] <nu2buntu> rinaldi_:  1993 huh ? :p
[18:17] <CarlFK> un0p: thanks.  that is the most usefull URL i have seen - been searching for about 4 hours now
[18:18] <Scottc> Is it possible for Ubuntu and Windows XP to share the same drives and files?
[18:18] <Scottc> I mean I know the executables for xp wont work on ubuntu...
[18:18] <LjL> Scottc: in a couple of ways.
[18:18] <LjL> !ntfs > Scottc    (Scottc, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:18] <rinaldi_> nu2ubuntu: yh..
[18:18] <nu2buntu> Scottc:  yes... use samba
[18:18] <LjL> !ext3 > Scottc    (Scottc, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:18] <td> hi all, I am using xubuntu 64bit 7.10, just had an automagic update but one of the updates gave this error: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_amd64.deb 403 Forbidden, where should I report this?
[18:18] <kottlett> td: same here...
[18:18] <LjL> Scottc: then samba, as nu2buntu suggested, can be used to share between two different machines.
[18:19] <LjL> !xbug > td    (td, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:19] <LjL> !topic > td    (td, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:19] <jjgy> usually those updates are forbidden because they have been deemed dangerous
[18:19] <magnetron> td: the error is well known, they are working on it as we speak
[18:19] <td> ok cool
[18:19] <jjgy> the update should be removed shortly, or fixed
[18:19] <nu2buntu> rinaldi_:  u guys "almost" beat us though ... i cant imagine how though WHL gonna be on the 2nd leg
[18:19] <QuickGold> how can i enable XDMCP from the command line on ubuntu server?
[18:19] <CarlFK> how do I run a command as another user?  (like sudo, only not 'root')
[18:19] <epax> I'm trying to install vlc with sudo apt-get install vlc but im getting this message. Depends: libsdl-image1.2 (>= 1.2.5) but it is not installable
[18:19] <nu2buntu> tough
[18:19] <epax> And some more uninstalleble messages.
[18:19] <MrObvious> CarlFK: su username
[18:20] <un0p> CarlFK, sudo -u user command ?
[18:20] <magnetron> !offtopic | nu2buntu, rinaldi_
[18:20] <epax> My kernel is 686
[18:20] <ubotu> nu2buntu, rinaldi_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:20] <mrmonday> bkar: It gave an error about a file being left over, but I can't get that error now as I've rebooted and can't get to ubuntu
[18:20] <ASTX813> OK, since no one has been able to help me print this PDF, can anyone think of a way to generate address labels on the fly and print them?  I was trying fpdf to generate, but we can't seem to get them to print
[18:20] <magnetron> ASTX813: can you print other stuff?
[18:20] <nu2buntu> i got error after apt-get install dnsmasq ipmasq ... should i start setting up ICS from the beginning ?
[18:21] <CarlFK> un0p: sudo -u... neat.  thanks 2x.
[18:21] <MrObvious> ASTX813: Can you use Openoffice Writer?
[18:21] <Scottc> one last question, how much does Ubuntu take?
[18:21] <MrObvious> CarlFK:
[18:21] <MrObvious> YW
[18:21] <Scottc> how much space*
[18:21] <CarlFK> MrObvious: can su execute a command ?\
[18:21] <MrObvious> Whoops.
[18:21] <epax> How do i change kernel from 686 to 386?
[18:21] <MrObvious> CarlFK: No it changes your terminal
[18:21] <ocha> I can't get an exported reg file into wine.  I am using Recode and trying to import it through that means.  " recode ucs-2.ascii adobe.reg" "sudo wine regedit adobe.reg" but i get an error message saying wine is not owned by me?
[18:21] <ASTX813> magnetron Yes, and I can even print the PDF from a GUI.  But it needs to be from a command line, b/c this is all web driven.
[18:21] <magnetron> ASTX813: are you using cups?
[18:21] <MrObvious> Scottc:
[18:21] <MrObvious> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[18:21] <MrObvious> /dev/sda1            147856916  10337576 130008556   8% /
[18:21] <ASTX813> MrObvious can't use GUI solutions, this is all running on a web server.
[18:22] <MrObvious> Gaa I'm using enter too much. Sorry!
[18:22] <azlon> i just installed the new nvidia drivers, now my screen scrolls when i move the mouse to the edges... how can i adjust my resolution?
[18:22] <adrock358> Hey Fellas
[18:22] <Pirate-King> hello
[18:22] <MrObvious> ASTX813: Why are you using a web server to print labels?
[18:22] <DRebellion> MrObvious: i think pasting 2 or 3 lines is fine ;)
[18:22] <MrObvious> !hi | adrock358, Pirate-King
[18:22] <ubotu> adrock358, Pirate-King: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[18:23] <un0p> CarlFK, with su - su user -c command
[18:23] <Scottc> MrObvious: Is that in bytes?
[18:23] <mikone> hey, i'm trying to compile a piece of software which depends on libldap2.3. the libraries (version 2.3) are installed but the headers required for compiling are available as version 2.1 only. did someone experience the same problem? can i copy the ldap headers of a later version (2.3) into my /usr/include without being afraid of segmentation faults?
[18:23] <ASTX813> magnetron Yeah.  lpr -PLabeler -omedia=w81h252 (from the labeler.ppd) label.pdf prints the top & bottom cutoff
[18:23] <MrObvious> Scottc: I think so.
[18:23] <ASTX813> MrObvious It's actually an inventory management system.  The labels are asset tags.
[18:23] <Scottc> that cant be right
[18:23] <MrObvious> Scottc: Apparently I have a 130,000,000 byte drive.
[18:23] <ocha> ocha: I can't get an exported reg file into wine.  I am using Recode and trying to import it through that means.  " recode ucs-2.ascii adobe.reg" "sudo wine regedit adobe.reg" but i get an error message saying wine is not owned by me?
[18:23] <Pirate-King> trying to update ubuntu and xserver-org-core won't update getting W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb
[18:23] <Pirate-King>   403 Forbidden
[18:23] <QuickGold> how can i enable XDMCP from the command line on ubuntu server?
[18:24] <DRebellion> !xbug | Pirate-King
[18:24] <ubotu> Pirate-King: The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[18:24] <smultron> i'm trying to install IEs 4 linux, but the new python-gtk installer keeps giving me a segfault error
[18:24] <un0p> Scottc, you can use the -h switch to represent those figures better
[18:24] <MrObvious> Scottc: I have a lot of apps installed too. But that gives you an idea of how much space I'm using. I think it includes my music.
[18:24] <Meshezabeel> anyone know how to get e-sata to work?
[18:24] <DRebellion> !anyone | Meshezabeel
[18:24] <ubotu> Meshezabeel: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[18:25] <orvalius> hi everybody
[18:25] <froek> I'm getting 403 forbidden on xserver-xorg-core from update agent? any ideas?
[18:25] <Pici> froek: /topic
[18:25] <eto1> eto1
[18:25] <MrObvious> Scottc: Outside of /home I'm using 6.3GB according to Nautilus.
[18:25] <froek> Pici tx :)
[18:25] <epax> !kernel
[18:25] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[18:25] <MrObvious> !esata
[18:25] <CarlFK> un0p: you seem to be on top of what I am doing - does this look OK? http://pgsql.privatepaste.com/2d0oJNBbDm
[18:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esata - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:25] <MrObvious> :\
[18:25] <DRebellion> !xbug | froek
[18:25] <ubotu> froek: The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[18:25] <Scottc> alright.. thats good, as I only have some 20 gb of space left
[18:25] <MrObvious> !e-sata
[18:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about e-sata - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:26] <Pici> !msgthebot | MrObvious
[18:26] <DRebellion> !msgthebot | epax
[18:26] <ubotu> MrObvious: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[18:26] <ubotu> epax: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[18:26] <th0r> froek that is a webpage error...not an ubuntu error
[18:26] <MrObvious> Sorry. :p
[18:26] <epax> Sorry 2 (;
[18:26] <Pici> th0r: No, its an ubuntu problem.
[18:26] <Pici> !xbug > th0r (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:26] <Meshezabeel> How can I get e-sata to work in ubuntu? E-Sata does not work by default. How can I get e-sata to work in Ubuntu?
[18:26] <ASTX813> magnetron nothing comes to mind, eh?
[18:26] <QuickGold> how can i enable XDMCP from the command line on ubuntu server?
[18:27] <DRebellion> !repeat | Meshezabeel
[18:27] <ubotu> Meshezabeel: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[18:27] <th0r> Pici nope...no pm sorry. thought error 403 Forbidden came from apache...sorry bout that too
[18:27] <un0p> CarlFK, looks good at first glance -- try it out :)
[18:27] <Meshezabeel> DRebellion: I repeated for your sake because you didn't like my first couple words ;)
[18:28] <Scottc> hm
[18:28] <Scottc> LocalNet install requires another machine to install from I guess?
[18:28] <adrock358> Hi guys.  Is it possible to copy my wireless driver from the live cd and bring it to my installed OS?  The driver used for my wifi card works great in live cd, but, once I install Ubuntu 7.1, it doesn't work at all.  It is not listed in network manager.  So, can I copy a driver from my cd to my OS?
[18:28] <Pici> th0r: Its because one of the files needed for the security update has been disabled due to a bug.  Updates will fail now, but at least we aren't really breaking systems like we were before.
[18:28] <ASTX813> Why doesn't lpr produce the same results as Evince?
[18:28] <CarlFK> un0p: thanks.  if things blow up, will this reset it: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow postgresql
[18:28] <QuickGold> Mesgezabeel: You may need to load sata_sil24 kernel module
[18:29] <th0r> Pici ah...then it is coming via the web interface...but is an ubuntu problem. OK...thanks
[18:29] <spanther> i got a weird error at updater
[18:29] <ralvarez> My laptop's kernel panics when the screen is fading to turn moitor off..its nvidia prop driver
[18:29] <un0p> CarlFK, errm no -- apt/dpkg only care about the installation specifics of packages not what goes on within them -- if the installation of postgres is flawed, then they can help -- otherwise you'll need to use the postgres tools to troubleshoot and repair, etc
[18:29] <Meshezabeel> thanks QuickGold, I will look into it
[18:29] <QuickGold> how can i enable XDMCP from the command line on ubuntu server?
[18:29] <adrock358> Anybody know anything about my question?
[18:29] <QuickGold> Meshezabeel: yw
[18:30] <un0p> CarlFK, you should have the postgres manual open -- it's extremely easy to use and very vital -- http://www.postgresql.org/docs/
[18:30] <CarlFK> un0p: isn't there some apt-get way to completely remove it, or do I have to reinstall the OS? (which is easy enough, just takes 30 min)
[18:31] <adrock358> Can anybody help me here?
[18:31] <un0p> CarlFK, to remove the package -- sudo aptitude remove postgresql -- to purge the configuration files too -- sudo aptitude purge postgresql
[18:31] <daxroc> Evening all
[18:31] <CarlFK> un0p: go that open in 3 tabs :)  - purge - bingo.  thanks.  I think we are up to 4x...
[18:31] <rinaldi_> !repeat|adrock358
[18:31] <ubotu> adrock358: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[18:31] <Xtreme_Great> can someone help me with setting up a dial up connection in ubuntu?
[18:32] <MrObvious> adrock358: Can you post your question again?
[18:32] <adrock358> rinaldi  if there were a smartass bot i would give it to you.  thank you.  best.
[18:32] <daxroc> Is there a problem with xserver-xorg-core update?
[18:32] <adrock358> yes, gladly
[18:32] <DRebellion> !anyone | Xtreme_Great
[18:32] <MrObvious> daxroc: Yes.
[18:32] <ubotu> Xtreme_Great: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[18:32] <CarlFK> un0p: why aptitude and not apt-get?
[18:32] <MrObvious> !xbug > daxroc (Check PMs.)
[18:32] <un0p> CarlFK, it wouldnt be wise troubleshooting if you removed the package to get rid of a problem eh -- thats running away from the problem not facing and dealing with it :)
[18:32] <adrock358> mrobvious Hi guys.  Is it possible to copy my wireless driver from the live cd and bring it to my installed OS?  The driver used for my wifi card works great in live cd, but, once I install Ubuntu 7.1, it doesn't work at all.  It is not listed in network manager.  So, can I copy a driver from my cd to my O
[18:33] <un0p> CarlFK, thats just a personal preference -- i like aptitude better, it deals with packages a littler better than apt-get
[18:33] <CarlFK> un0p: yeah, but I want my script to work so I can run it on a bunch of boxes
[18:33] <Xtreme_Great> I just was unable to set up my dial up connection...
[18:33] <MrObvious> CarlFK: You need to practice typing.
[18:33] <Xtreme_Great> How do I do that?
[18:33] <daxroc> MrObvious: thanks, appreciate the speedy response
[18:33] <poeloq> does anybody know what the situation with USB headsets under ubuntu is?
[18:33] <un0p> CarlFK, you can always make a dump of the databases and import it into other boxes
[18:34] <CarlFK> MrObvious: im gona type you in the eye :)
[18:34] <MrObvious> daxroc: YW.
[18:34] <MrObvious> CarlFK: Lol.
[18:34] <MrObvious> adrock358: Just a sec.
[18:34] <Scottc> ah well I have a usb stick
[18:34] <rinaldi_> adrock358: im not trying to be a smartass im just saying if nobody knows your answer nobodys going to answer you
[18:34] <MrObvious> adrock358: What kind of wireless adapter do you have?
[18:34] <steffan> Hi, I've got some problems with gnome again:(
[18:34] <unicum> i already found out how not to have a "," (comma) behind an auto-completed nick. but how do i tell xchat not to put a " " (space) behind an auto-completed nick either???
[18:34] <Pygmymath> evening steffan whats up?
[18:34] <adrock358> mrobvious belkin f5d7050 v.3
[18:34] <CarlFK> un0p: the goal is to have good docs on how the live server is setup.  a db dump is kinda wordy :)
[18:35] <RatThing> !webcam | me
[18:35] <Xtreme_Great> Hey ubotu, I thought you'd help...
[18:35] <un0p> unicum, checked out xchat settings???
[18:35] <ubotu> me: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[18:35] <unicum> well yes
[18:35] <MrObvious> unicum: It's in Settings -> Advanced somewhere. i forget where as it's been a while.
[18:35] <unicum> in advanced.. thx
[18:35] <aladdinsane> how do i get info about my NIC in ubuntu, brand, model etc.?
[18:35] <MrObvious> adrock358: Ok lemme search the forums and Google for a minute.
[18:35] <Pygmymath> steffan: whats wrong with gnome?
[18:35] <steffan> When i login, it logs 'in'. But immediatly after that. I see my atisplash again and i've to login again
[18:35] <MrObvious> aladdinsane: Try lcpci
[18:35] <ASTX813> aladdinsane try lspci
[18:35] <RatThing> can ubotu send that to private pm?
[18:35] <CarlFK> un0p: and a .doc file describing all my floundering ... is something I dont' want to write about
[18:35] <Pygmymath> steffan: atisplash?
[18:36] <MrObvious> RatThing: Type !factoid > username
[18:36] <steffan> Splash screen of the ati driver
[18:36] <steffan> at startup(gmd startup i think)
[18:36] <RatThing> thank you MrObvious
[18:36] <Pygmymath> steffan: are you using the proprietry drivers for ati then?
[18:36] <MrObvious> RatThing: YW.
[18:36] <Pygmymath> steffan: and are you using xgl or compiz?
[18:36] <RatThing> !webcam > RatThing
[18:37] <un0p> CarlFK, well, if you are going to have other people working on your project -- you definitely need documentation -- even if you don't , you dont want to come back to the project 6 months later and ask yourself "what the **** have i done?" -- documentation is almost never a bad thing, it almost always helps you
[18:37] <steffan> Pygmymath, compiz is on..
[18:37] <steffan> but..
[18:37] <steffan> i can login to the failsafe-gnome
[18:37] <MrObvious> RatThing: Also type /query ubotu and you can test commands there or join I think #ubuntu-bots
[18:37] <DRebellion> !msgthebot | RatThing
[18:37] <ubotu> RatThing: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[18:37] <GNUtoo> hello, on my ubuntu i have a i810 card and the xorg logs says : (WW) intel(0): Direct rendering disabled what should i do? and how can i be shure of my screen depth(16/24 bit)
[18:37] <GNUtoo> ?
[18:37] <evenx> hello world
[18:38] <steffan> The problem started after i pressed on the hibernate button(stupid i know) and it never wokeup. I had to power of my system and restart
[18:38] <chenyu> hello
[18:38] <MrObvious> adrock358: Here's a guide:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=563547
[18:38] <QuickGold> GNUtoo: What about installing/reinstalling libgl1-mesa-dri ?
[18:38] <steffan> after that, gnome wouldn't start anymore
[18:38] <MrObvious> chenyu: Hello.
[18:38] <Pygmymath> steffan: have you tried disabling the splash, at a longshot
[18:38] <chenyu> I have some questions
[18:38] <steffan> But the splash isn't the problem
[18:38] <steffan> gnome is
[18:38] <un0p> GNUtoo, you can use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   to have the installer make educated guesses as to what values they might be
[18:38] <ally_xoxo> how do i apply a new theme for ubuntu?
[18:38] <MrObvious> !ask | chenyu
[18:39] <rinaldi_> !ask | chenyu
[18:39] <QuickGold> !ask | chenyu
[18:39] <MrObvious> !theme | ally_xoxo
[18:39] <ubotu> chenyu: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:39] <GNUtoo> un0p, i've already done that but it doesn't ask for loading dri or not
[18:39] <ubotu> ally_xoxo: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[18:39] <MrObvious> !changethemes | ally_xoxo
[18:39] <ubotu> ally_xoxo: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[18:39] <Pygmymath> steffan: hmm..
[18:39] <azlon> ok
[18:39] <zwox> o/
[18:39] <steffan> I login, but immediatly after that, i've to login again and again and agian
[18:39] <azlon> this display thing is driving me nuts
[18:39] <chenyu> how can I play rmvb
[18:39] <azlon> who here uses nvidia drivers?
[18:39] <un0p> GNUtoo, try lowering the priority of questions asked -- dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[18:40] <jpiccolo> can i vnc like this ME -> //internet// -> Server -> computer on network
[18:40] <Scottc> I guess I have another question
[18:40] <GNUtoo> un0p, thanks a lot i didn't know that, i'll try
[18:40] <MrObvious> chenyu: I've never heard of that format. What is it and does another app that you know if in Windows use it?
[18:40] <Scottc> Will I have to create a new partition to install Ubuntu to?
[18:40] <Brandon_> in 7.10 does the user cupsys exist?
[18:40] <MrObvious> jpiccolo: Yes.
[18:40] <emiri> someone here has compiled anytime grisbi?
[18:40] <chenyu> realplayer
[18:40] <Pygmymath> steffan: so you dont get to the desktop or get panels up?
[18:40] <jpiccolo> MrObvious: do i have to tunnel though ssh?
[18:40] <steffan> Sometimes i see the 'taskbar' is starting(only see a bar, no icons)
[18:40] <Brandon_> Actually how do I find out all the users on ubuntu?
[18:40] <ally_xoxo> MrObvious: when i do this "Click System → Preferences → Theme."
[18:40] <ally_xoxo> there is no "Theme"
[18:40] <MrObvious> Scottc: Yes. It can do that automatically and even resize your partitions if you want.
[18:40] <adrock358> mrobvious do i have to be online when i do it? it says i do, but my wireless doesn't work on my regular os.  and the router is in my dad's room which i don't have access to
[18:40] <jonysiguel> hello everyone
[18:41] <DRebellion> Scottc: you wnat to dual boot with windows?
[18:41] <Pygmymath> steffan: right.. hmm..
[18:41] <chenyu> I use Mplayer but doesn't work
[18:41] <steffan> sometimes i see a panel is appearing
[18:41] <zwox> anyone already try to use sansa view sandisk mp3 player on gutsy ?
[18:41] <azlon> how the heck can i adjust my resolution?
[18:41] <Scottc> yes DRebellion
[18:41] <jonysiguel> I have a little question
[18:41] <ally_xoxo> i am on gusty 7.10
[18:41] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: system, preferences, appearance
[18:41] <rinaldi_> chenyu: just download realplayer for linux
[18:41] <Scottc> i've never dual booted before
[18:41] <DRebellion> !dualboot | Scottc
[18:41] <ubotu> Scottc: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[18:41] <Scottc> I did run ubuntu in a VM once before, but I guess this is compeletely different
[18:41] <MrObvious> adrock358: Really? You can reboot to Windows if you dual boot and download the files you need and get it to work.
[18:41] <rinaldi_> chenyu: or try vlc
[18:41] <jonysiguel> Does anyone know how to set the application that you want Ubuntu to startup with?
[18:41] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: the options for changing themes and setting them up is all in there
[18:41] <azlon> !resolution
[18:41] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:41] <steffan> The hibernate function isn't good for my machine :(
[18:41] <chenyu> I have been to the realplayer website, but I havn't found the file for linux
[18:42] <MrObvious> ally_xoxo: Sorry try that link ubotu posted.
[18:42] <Pygmymath> steffan: lol.. remind me to stay away from it :)
[18:42] <chenyu> I just downloaded the vlc
[18:42] <MrObvious> !realplayer
[18:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:42] <jonysiguel> anyone?
[18:42] <chenyu> still not work
[18:42] <SeSsi0n> Ok... im trying to put ubuntu on but i get this error bcm43xx-microcode5.fw then it goes toa colorful screen any ideas?
[18:42] <Pygmymath> steffan: how _well_ does the safemode work?
[18:42] <MrObvious> chenyu: Try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods?action=show&redirect=RealPlayerInstallationMethods
[18:42] <steffan> Pygmymath, that is working ok
[18:42] <tacone> jonysiguel: system->preferences->session
[18:42] <steffan> very well :P
[18:42] <chenyu> thanks
[18:42] <steffan> everthing is working
[18:43] <GNUtoo> QuickGold, didn't work
[18:43] <Pygmymath> steffan: copy your backup xorg.conf over? :P
[18:43] <MrObvious> jonysiguel: What application?
[18:43] <Pygmymath> steffan: dont have a clue as to why it'd logoutinoutin on you to be honest..
[18:43] <jonysiguel> avant-window-navigator
[18:43] <Pygmymath> jonysiguel: im using avant now
[18:43] <MrObvious> SeSsi0n: You're trying to get a BCM to work but it doesn't want to?
[18:43] <tacone> !session | jonysiguel
[18:43] <ubotu> jonysiguel: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[18:43] <epax> What software sources shall i have "on" in software sources? repo?
[18:44] <adrock358> mrobvious it says i can install ndiswrapper without a working internet connection.  how do i do that?
[18:44] <MrObvious> !repos | epax
[18:44] <ubotu> epax: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[18:44] <emiri> anyone knows how to compile a program?
[18:44] <DRebellion> !compile | emiri
[18:44] <ubotu> emiri: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[18:44] <emiri> ok, thanks
[18:44] <MrObvious> adrock358: Sorry I closed the link. Can you post it again?
[18:44] <jonysiguel> thnx
[18:44] <uri> adrock358: you need to download the .deb packages for ndiswrapper manually and install them
[18:44] <SeSsi0n> MrObvious: it wont even load the live cd so i can install it
[18:45] <somali> hi
[18:45] <MrObvious> SeSsi0n: Try the alternate CD.
[18:45] <uri> adrock358: but you need a working internet connection on another computer
[18:45] <adrock358> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=563547
[18:45] <chenyu> Is here anyone knowed about answer set programming?
[18:45] <alphecca> ignore #ubuntu modes joins parts
[18:45] <Rasputin88> hey people. :)
[18:45] <adrock358> uri, hey you go to uri?
[18:45] <Pygmymath> welcome\
[18:45] <uri> adrock358: I'm not sure if ubuntu now includes ndiswrapper in the iso
[18:45] <SeSsi0n> MrObvious: where do i download that?
[18:45] <uri> adrock358: i don't know how to change the nick in weechat :-)
[18:46] <Pygmymath> uri: /nick <insertnamehere> :P
[18:46] <MrObvious> !alternate | SeSsi0n
[18:46] <ubotu> SeSsi0n: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode installation CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD.  It can also be used as an upgrade CD. - See also !minimal
[18:46] <MrObvious> Grr.
[18:46] <adrock358> uri that'd be nice, because my wireless works during the livecd experience, but not after i install
[18:46] <uri> i mean -- i'm too lazy to do that... i want to change it once in the config file
[18:46] <MrObvious> !minimal | SeSsi0n
[18:46] <ubotu> SeSsi0n: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:46] <adrock358> uri, yeah i just thought you went to University of Rhode Island (URI)--like me
[18:47] <QuickGold> !alternate | rem_
[18:47] <ubotu> rem_: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode installation CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD.  It can also be used as an upgrade CD. - See also !minimal
[18:47] <uri> adrock358: well if wifi works... that *might* mean that it's not configured properly
[18:47] <MrObvious> adrock358: I wonder if you can just modprobe something. IDK which chipset your wireless uses though.
[18:47] <SeSsi0n> then i can upgrade to ubuntu 7.10?
[18:47] <MrObvious> SeSsi0n: Yup.
[18:47] <SeSsi0n> thanks
[18:48] <Pygmymath> MrObvious: why not grep the wireless chipset out of the loaded drivers in the live system where it works
[18:48] <uri> adrock358: in any case, you can download the ubuntu packages from packages.ubuntu.com
[18:48] <mrmonday> how do I disable networking before my PC boots?
[18:48] <MrObvious> Pygmymath: Good idea.
[18:48] <mrmonday> is there a file I can edit?
[18:48] <uri> mrmonday: huh?
[18:48] <Pygmymath> mrmonday: pull out the cables ? :P
[18:48] <MrObvious> adrock358: Try sudo modprobe rt73 and see if that was it.
[18:49] <uri> mrmonday: you mean you want to disable the network from booting up?
[18:49] <mrmonday> Pygmymath: tried that, it doesn't work
[18:49] <QuickGold> mrmonday: pull out the network card?
[18:49] <mrmonday> my PC can't boot because of some networking issues
[18:49] <yoly21> ola
[18:49] <Pygmymath> mrmonday: not a clue myself i'm afraid, thats odd though. what happens?
[18:49] <aladdinsane> can anyone reccomendrecommend
[18:49] <azlon> !resolution
[18:49] <Link> Ok I am just getting started, New to linux, I downloaded ubuntu do I just write the file directly to the disc, Is it that simple?
[18:49] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:49] <aladdinsane> reccommend
[18:50] <mrmonday> QuickGold, that's kinda hard as it's soldered to my motherboard
[18:50] <aladdinsane> reccommend
[18:50] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> so the latest update broke my gnome
[18:50] <spanther> i got this error please somebody help me out ^^   http://s5.directupload.net/images/080118/6idftnai.png
[18:50] <un0p> Link, aye, burn the iso to disc with a program that can do that
[18:50] <GNUtoo> un0p, i've done it twice and it doesn't ask to load the modules...
[18:50] <mrmonday> Pygmymath: when i boot my PC it freezes when configuring the network
[18:50] <Pygmymath> [Gutsy]TuTUXG: sudo apt-get install kde4-core ? :P
[18:50] <GNUtoo> un0p, by the way what is the kernel driver for intel?
[18:50] <Pici> spanther: /topic
[18:50] <MrObvious> Link: No. Google ISO burner and burn the ISO to a CD-RW. Then when it boots you'll want to double click the Install shortcut and follow directions. It's pretty easy.
[18:50] <riaal> whats the easiest way of listing the networks interfaces? (using the witch awk in a script)
[18:50] <Pici> !xbug > spanther (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:50] <steffan> Pygmymath, even with a xorg.conf backup it still 'reloggining'
[18:50] <unstable> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_amd64.deb  403 Forbidden
[18:51] <unstable> Is my mirror bad, or why can't I get this package?
[18:51] <Pici> !xbug > unstable (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:51] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> Pygmymath, i m in kde now, just need someone to confirm
[18:51] <MrObvious> Link: Also I would md5sum the package using md5summer (Google it) and make sure your ISO isn't corrupted and also burn at 4x speed.
[18:51] <MrObvious> !xbug | unstable
[18:51] <ubotu> unstable: The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[18:51] <DRebellion> !install | Link
[18:51] <ubotu> Link: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[18:51] <spanther> Pici, ah i see okay lets read ^.^ thank you
[18:51] <un0p> GNUdog, that depends -- you mentioned 810i right? it should be available
[18:51] <ally_xoxo> ok i added anew theem to ubuntu, but i have some new icons i want to use, how do i do that
[18:51] <Pygmymath> mrmonday: where abouts does it freeze?
[18:51] <aladdinsane> can anyone recommend an old NVIDIA AGP card that works fine with ubuntu, 64 or 128mb is enough. I just have to get rid of my ATI which ubuntu hates..
[18:51] <desertc> Did you know you can set Ubuntu to use the fastest repository server for your updates and packages?
[18:51] <desertc> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/09/04/automatically-find-the-fastest-repository-in-synaptic/
[18:52] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> Pygmymath, so the latest update broke gnome?
[18:52] <GNUtoo> un0p, ok and i'm GNUtoo(so GNUdog doesn't flash)
[18:52] <aVro^afk> Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block error <--- I'm getting this error on install of gutsy (non - alt) using the F6 floppy=off doesn't seem to be helping any help out there for me?
[18:52] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: use the install button on the themes thing to install the file with the icons
[18:52] <un0p> GNUtoo, sorry :)
[18:52] <ally_xoxo> ok
[18:52] <yoly21> no hay nadie para ablar
[18:52] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: then customise a theme to use those icons under the icon tab
[18:52] <GNUtoo> un0p, lol np
[18:52] <Link> Well Im using a windows computer now but I assume just burning it with windows wont work...
[18:52] <Pygmymath> [Gutsy]TuTUXG: i didnt upgrade myself, i installed to 7.10 clean im afraid
[18:52] <mrmonday> Pygmymath: It freezes when it tries to start the firewall (which can't start because of the ethernet interface not being configured properly)
[18:52] <aVro> Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block error <--- I'm getting this error on install of gutsy (non - alt CD ) doesn't seem to be helping any help out there for me?
[18:53] <Pygmymath> [Gutsy]TuTUXG: sorry, updates im fine on and gnome is alive, though i just use avant not the panes
[18:53] <un0p> GNUdog, errm, that really odd, i did reconfigure xorg here too and it doesnt ask me anymore -- perhaps the installer has changed
[18:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Link: You can burn an iso for linux with Windows if that is your question
[18:53] <DRebellion> Link: do you have any cd burning software? you should select the option to burn a disk image
[18:53] <mrmonday> Pygmymath: there is a file left over somewhere from a failed 'sudo ifdown eth0', which causes it not to be configured properly, but i can't remember which one
[18:53] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> Pygmymath, so it broke the panels?
[18:53] <vegpuff> mksock is not working in my box. how do i enable it?
[18:53] <Pygmymath> mrmonday: try hitting ctrl+alt+f1 then logging in to the text terminal and then typing startx
[18:54] <ally_xoxo> is there any good sites for Ubuntu icons?
[18:54] <Jack_Sparrow> aVro: Please dont repeat...  Burn at 4x, check your md5 or ust the alternate cd
[18:54] <Pygmymath> [Gutsy]TuTUXG: i dont use panels out of choice
[18:54] <GNUtoo> un0p, even with i810 and drm loaded in the kernel it still says (WW) intel(0): Direct rendering disabled
[18:54] <mrmonday> Pygmymath: that doesn't solve the problem though :/
[18:54] <DRebellion> !theme | ally_xoxo
[18:54] <ubotu> ally_xoxo: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[18:54] <un0p> GNUtoo, perhaps this might help - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=430027
[18:54] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: gnome-look.org
[18:54] <spanther> Pici, okay :) but um how long does it take until it doesnt give out this error anymore ? ^^ i mean that a apt-get update updates the list and doesnt show this update anymore?
[18:54] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: what the bot says
[18:54] <ally_xoxo> great - thanks!
[18:54] <Hilikus> when doing apt-get upgrade a get the following error
[18:54] <Hilikus> Err http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main xserver-xorg-core 2:1.2.0-3ubuntu8.1
[18:54] <Hilikus> 403 Forbidden
[18:54] <Pygmymath> mrmonday: no but you're at least in a normal environment :P
[18:54] <Pici> !xbug > Hilikus (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:54] <DRebellion> !xbug | Hilikus
[18:54] <amjad> hello i want to know if ubuntu gutsy wireless will pick up unsecured wireless routers
[18:54] <ubotu> Hilikus: The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[18:55] <Pici> spanther: Until the devs fix it, which should be soon.
[18:55] <DRebellion> amjad: of course
[18:55] <Pici> spanther: Its been rated 'critical'
[18:55] <un0p> GNUtoo, or this more specifically - http://wiki.x.org/wiki/XorgConfModulesSection
[18:55] <Pygmymath> mrmonday: i've no experience with configuring the eth card from there, but i'd say your best off trying to reconfigure from there, or from the alt+ctrl+f1 terminal
[18:55] <GNUtoo> un0p, i'll try it even if i already copied it from another xorg conf
[18:55] <DRebellion> Pici: what's the situation with flash?
[18:55] <Jack_Sparrow> amjad: yes
[18:55] <spanther> Pici, ah so no big problem okay thank you very much for helping me out hehe now i am happy :)
[18:56] <mrmonday> Pygmymath: if I don't know how to it isn't much use though is it? :P
[18:56] <Pici> DRebellion: I dont know, I havent been following that, sorry.
[18:56] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> Pygmymath, ok, i read the topic which said the latest update did break something, and apparently after install those and reboot i couldn't login to gnome, so am i suppose to consider they are related?
[18:56] <unstable> MrObvious: So this is normal?
[18:56] <CeRe> Hello all.. I've been using ubuntu for 3 months, and now i have a big problem, can anyone help me?
[18:56] <DRebellion> Pici: where could i find out that sort of information?
[18:56] <Generic> Anyone know how to set an icon for a specific filetype?
[18:56] <Pirate-King> hello Im getting this error
[18:56] <DOOM_NX> "some of the updates could not be retrieved from the server(s). Do you want to continue ignoring these packages?"
[18:56] <CeRe> i can't login to gnome :-(
[18:56] <Pirate-King> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb
[18:56] <Pirate-King>   403 Forbidden
[18:56] <Pygmymath> mrmonday: google :D im looking myself at the moment
[18:56] <Pici> !xbug > Pirate-King (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:56] <Generic> I have .pka files that I associated to run in packet tracer via wine
[18:56] <DOOM_NX> it's trying to update... what happened?
[18:56] <Generic> but I want to define an icon for .pka to use
[18:56] <mrmonday> Pygmymath: I'm alredy looking (I'm using a live CD)
[18:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Pici: you are going to get really tired of typing that one..
[18:57] <Pici> DRebellion: Look at the flashplugin-nonfree package on bugs.ubuntu.com
[18:57] <mrmonday> *already
[18:57] <Pygmymath> mrmonday: two heads n all that heh
[18:57] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: I have an alias setup ;)
[18:57] <azlon> when i got to Applications, Accessories, Terminal, my terminal never opens... how can i fix this?
[18:57] <CarlFK> un0p: help help...   http://pgsql.privatepaste.com/021PrYJiJd  ERROR:  relation "mydb" does not exist
[18:57] <HorizonX1> hi, i just got a new external hdd (500gb) and it's formatted FAT32. Should I convert it to NTFS so I can store files larger than 4GB? I need to use it with Windows machines, that's why. Will Ubuntu support this properly?
[18:57] <trx> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb
[18:57] <trx>   403 Forbidden
[18:57] <DRebellion> HorizonX1: yar
[18:57] <Pici> !xbug > trx (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:57] <CeRe> i can't login in gnome since last update... anyone has this problem?
[18:57] <Pygmymath> [Gutsy]TuTUXG: I've not heard of any problems with the recent update, is there a post on the fora?
[18:57] <trx> When trying to update
[18:57] <DRebellion> !ntfs | HorizonX1
[18:57] <ubotu> HorizonX1: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[18:57] <Pygmymath> [Gutsy]TuTUXG: also talk to CeRe heh
[18:57] <DOOM_NX> trx here as well!
[18:58] <slimjimflim> idk if this is a bug, but i get a 403  on the download for the last x-server update
[18:58] <Pici> !xbug > DOOM_NX (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:58] <Pici> !xbug > slimjimflim (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:58] <DOOM_NX> thx lol
[18:58] <frojnd> is someone here willing to help me out configure codecs ? I missed something up and now I can't watch divx, mpeg, all kind of movies in fullscreen mode. If I do full screen picture is made by big squares.. Can someone help me out clean the codecs ??
[18:58] <CeRe> !xbug
[18:58] <ubotu> The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[18:58] <HorizonX1> DRebellion: so ntfs-3g is stable now?
[18:58] <Pygmymath> [Gutsy]TuTUXG: Also do you mean the latest X server update
[18:58] <DOOM_NX> how do i fix it?
[18:58] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> CeRe, can u help me? after the update few hours ago, i reboot and couldn't get into gnome, is them related?
[18:58] <DRebellion> HorizonX1: otherwise it wouldn#t be in the repos
[18:58] <Generic> Soooo, anyone have a clue?
[18:59] <Pici> DOOM_NX: wait.
[18:59] <DOOM_NX> should i fix it or what?
[18:59] <DOOM_NX> ok
[18:59] <uri> frojnd: try reinstalling the codecs package
[18:59] <HorizonX1> DRebellion: cool, thanks :)
[18:59] <robdeman> hi all - my server ha sonly 1 realy IP address and Im trying to setup Apache and I want myoffice.domain.com to be HTTPS only (no http) ... ios this possible with VirtualHosts?
[18:59] <DRebellion> HorizonX1: no prob
[18:59] <un0p> CarlFK, you've got a syntax problem there
[18:59] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> Pygmymath, i didnt check... the auto update icon pop up and i just let it installs
[18:59] <CeRe> tuTUXG, dunno.. when i log in gnome gdm restarts
[18:59] <frojnd> uri, problem is I can't remeber the names of codecs :S I have installed all kinds of codecs including windows32
[18:59] <HorizonX1> DRebellion: no way to do the FAT32 -> NTFS conversion on Ubuntu is there? or do I really have to use Windows for that?
[18:59] <CeRe> do you mean that problem?
[19:00] <un0p> CarlFK, GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON mydb TO joe;   << what is 'mydb' here? :)
[19:00] <rEph> quick question,  how would I have a networkless box use local packages?
[19:00] <rEph> read: local .debs
[19:00] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> CeRe, exactly, same here
[19:00] <ReL1K> anyone else getting a "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden" Unable to fetch some architeves, etc. etc.???
[19:00] <Pygmymath> [Gutsy]TuTUXG: ok, i can see that update and am currently avoiding it heh
[19:00] <DRebellion> HorizonX1: you can do it on linux
[19:00] <themoebius> whats a function to get the first n characters in a string?
[19:00] <Pici> !xbug > ReL1K (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:00] <DRebellion> !xbug | ReL1K
[19:00] <ubotu> ReL1K: The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[19:00] <ReL1K> there we go
[19:00] <ReL1K> thanks much appreciated
[19:00] <uri> frojnd: you mean codecs in addition to what's available in the repositories?
[19:00] <Jack_Sparrow> rEph: aptoncd or puit them in var/cache/apt/archives
[19:00] <slimjimflim> pici, so do i not want that update at all?
[19:00] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> CeRe, so it's the new xserver breaks gnome?
[19:01] <frojnd> uri, yes
[19:01] <olskolirc> Can someone tell me why i get this when I want to upgrade: Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main xserver-xorg-core 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1
[19:01] <olskolirc>   403 Forbidden
[19:01] <CeRe> don't know.. I have this problem since this afternoon
[19:01] <Pici> slimjimflim: The update is blocked, it wont install.
[19:01] <CarlFK> un0p: it is the db created 2 lines up
[19:01] <Pici> !xbug > olskolirc (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:01] <GNUtoo> un0p, same thing no result...
[19:01] <slimjimflim> god i bet you've been doing nothing but talk about this all day
[19:01] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> CeRe, like 2-3 hrs ago?
[19:01] <Pygmymath> mrmonday: have you tried ethtool
[19:01] <un0p> CarlFK, right, so you need to explicitly tell GRANT that mydb is a database ;)
[19:01] <CeRe> tuTUXG yep
[19:01] <CarlFK> ah
[19:01] <Pici> slimjimflim: never a dull moment ;)
[19:01] <mrmonday> Pygmymath: what's that?
[19:01] <DOOM_NX> guys is there a fix about that bug? or we should wait?
[19:01] <mrmonday> Pygmymath: link?
[19:01] <ezeki3l> Hi
[19:01] <un0p> CarlFK, like i said, you have a syntax error -- the GRANT command is incomplete in this context
[19:02] <GNUtoo> un0p, is there a more verbose mode?
[19:02] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> CeRe, ok so i guess we are in the same boat lol
[19:02] <uri> frojnd: ah... I don't know then cuz usually I just stick to the official "unofficial" ones, so i just reinstall them when something goes wrong
[19:02] <Pici> DOOM_NX: All we can do is wait until a new package is released.
[19:02] <slimjimflim> pici, ty, good luck w/ that
[19:02] <ezeki3l> when i do upgrdaes it says Error 403
[19:02] <Pygmymath> mrmonday: its preinstalled with ubuntu, run ethtool -h in a terminal
[19:02] <DOOM_NX> pici thank u :)
[19:02] <ezeki3l> and can't download packages
[19:02] <Pici> !xbug > ezeki3l (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:02] <DRebellion> !xbug | ezeki3l
[19:02] <ubotu> ezeki3l: The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[19:02] <ezeki3l> thanks
[19:02] <bahman> How could I Hide a folder in Ubuntu, I'm a new user!
[19:02] <Jack_Sparrow> DOOM_NX: It is being fixed as we speak.. please read the ubotu link and be patient
[19:02] <DOOM_NX> is Pici a bot?
[19:02] <DRebellion> bahman: prefix it with a .
[19:02] <un0p> GNUtoo, i dont think so -- let me try something out
[19:02] <Pygmymath> mrmonday: i dont know if it'll help but its for configuring ethernet devices
[19:02] <bahman> Hi everybody
[19:02] <ReL1K> Pico, much apprecied for the help
[19:02] <ReL1K> urr Pici
[19:02] <DOOM_NX> Jack_Sparrow, thanks and sorry
[19:02] <Pici> DRebellion: Theres no need to do it again after I send the info with !xbug > user.  I'm trying to decrease the channel spam.
[19:02] <Jack_Sparrow> DOOM_NX: Pici is a lot of things.. butnot a bot
[19:02] <Pici> DOOM_NX: No, I'm a person.
[19:02] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: :p
[19:03] <rEph> Jack_Sparrow: how about updating the package tree networklessly
[19:03] <DOOM_NX> i didn't mean to upset all of u
[19:03] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> CeRe, just wait till the fix? or i can do a downgrade?
[19:03] <bahman> Could anyone help me in hide a file or folder in Ubuntu?!
[19:03] <CeRe> i don't know
[19:03] <CeRe> check mp
[19:03] <rEph> Jack_Sparrow: so I can use the updated packages I have =)
[19:03] <DRebellion> bahman: i have just asnswered your question
[19:03] <nekostar> o ffs someone fix the xorg package plz ^^
[19:03] <rama_8086> when i start my PC it is showing high range with improper desktop
[19:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd
[19:03] <ubotu> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[19:03] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> CeRe, mp?
[19:03] <frojnd> !video
[19:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[19:03] <HellMind> My usb mouse inst work anymore, Where can I see any reason for this?, My usb keyboard works fine and hte mouse is listed on lsusb
[19:03] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> main page?
[19:03] <nekostar> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb
[19:03] <nekostar>   403 Forbidden
[19:03] <CeRe> personal message :-)
[19:03] <rEph> Jack_Sparrow: see,  yeh... problem is though ;)  it's a colocated box
[19:03] <bahman> DRebellion: what?! prefix it with a ?!
[19:03] <Pici> !xbug > nekostar (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:03] <olskolirc> thanks Pici
[19:03] <Pygmymath> !afk
[19:03] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also  !Guidelines
[19:03] <DRebellion> !msgthebot  > frojnd
[19:03] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> i c
[19:03] <olskolirc> than gawd it wasn't my script
[19:03] <rEph> Jack_Sparrow: however its a failover box on a backend  with no direcyt net connection
[19:04] <DRebellion> bahman: with a .  eg .file .folder
[19:04] <rEph> Jack_Sparrow: so we have to use the front end live box to get the pkgs and move them back to the failover box,  heh
[19:04] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> CeRe, lucky its friday
[19:04] <nekostar> then iguess its good that i dont stay 1 zillion percent current @_@
[19:04] <un0p> GNUtoo, this is really strange -- I remember that issuing sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorf on debian used to prompt me for which modules to load, but not on ubuntu (atleast on gutsy)
[19:05] <CeRe> TuTUXG, are you sure it's an update problem?
[19:05] <Pygmymath> !nafk
[19:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nafk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:05] <un0p> GNUtoo, i guess you'll need to edit the xorg.conf manually
[19:05] <epax> I can not install vlc thrue add/remove software... i'm getting message to try to install it with synaptic... but in synaptic i'm getting message that some of the dependencies can not be installed at all... what can be wrong?
[19:05] <Jack_Sparrow> rEph: Which is why I made the suggestion I did,... You have to get them into there somehow and if there is not internet or network you will have to move them manually
[19:05] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> CeRe, i really dont know
[19:05] <DRebellion> epax: you need to enable restricted sources
[19:05] <GNUtoo> un0p, i've already done that...
[19:05] <CeRe> well: does anyone can't login in Gnome since last update?
[19:05] <bahman> DRebellion: Thanks, but I use windows too, some folders of windows always show in my file browser! How could I hidden them?!
[19:06] <GNUtoo> un0p, i'll pastebin it
[19:06] <olskolirc> I wrote a script for anyone with Nvidia wanting the perfect compiz-fusion install
[19:06] <un0p> GNUtoo, once you have edited xorg.conf -- you'll need to restart the X server
[19:06] <spanther> CeRe, nope everything's fine :)
[19:06] <GNUtoo> un0p, or gdm
[19:06] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> ...
[19:06] <Pygmymath> olskolirc: ati unfortunately, and all the joy that comes with that
[19:06] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> spanther, i couldnt
[19:06] <rEph> Jack_Sparrow: yeah,  I understand however we have no manual access I can ssh -> front end ,  ssh -> failover without "network"   it has network,  but i cannot modify the front end to proxy traffic from the backend which has no direct net access :p
[19:06] <un0p> GNUtoo, restarting gdm restarts X -- so yes
[19:06] <olskolirc> i wonder if it would still work
[19:06] <GNUtoo> un0p, that's what i've done /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[19:06] <un0p> GNUtoo, cool
[19:06] <rEph> Jack_Sparrow: its a real annoying mess tbh...but its how it has to be
[19:06] <QuickGold> how can i enable XDMCP from the command line on ubuntu server?
[19:06] <spanther> [Gutsy]TuTUXG, but i can ^^" weird thing
[19:06] <J_P> hi all
[19:06] <rama_8086> when i start my PC it is showing screen resolution high range with improper desktop
[19:06] <olskolirc> its just a matter of enabling restricted drivers Pygmymath and after that, an install is just an install
[19:07] <olskolirc> want it?
[19:07] <CeRe> i changed nothinx in Xorg or nvidia config and now i can't login in gnome ffs
[19:07] <DRebellion> !resolution > rama_8086
[19:07] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> is any dev here?
[19:07] <Pygmymath> hi J_P
[19:07] <CeRe> wtf?
[19:07] <un0p> QuickGold, i dont think anyone here knows the answer to that, why don't you refer to some documentation
[19:07] <alpaco> how do I start a c-shell in ubuntu?
[19:07] <un0p> ?
[19:07] <Jack_Sparrow> rEph: I dont have an answer for something setup like that
[19:07] <rEph> Jack_Sparrow: basically the idea is how can I manually yet with no physical acces, yet remotely without internet access,  update a package tree...
[19:07] <GNUtoo> un0p, http://pastebin.com/m74607164
[19:07] <rama_8086> Drebellion, yes
[19:07] <alpaco> how do I start a c-shell/k-shell/bash in ubuntu?
[19:07] <J_P> how is possible install ubuntu without cdrom/diskete and usb ?
[19:07] <J_P> I have windows xp and I copy ubuntu iso on windows xp
[19:07] <DRebellion> !install | J_P
[19:07] <ubotu> J_P: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[19:07] <QuickGold> j_P: yes you can do a network install
[19:08] <un0p> alpaco, sudo aptitude install tcsh && tcsh
[19:08] <un0p> alpaco, bash is the default shell on ubuntu
[19:08] <Pygmymath> alpaco: create a launcer that runs the command xterm
[19:08] <alpaco> !install | alpaco
[19:08] <olskolirc> just type bash alpaco
[19:08] <tacone> I have this error on ubuntu upgrade: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb (   403 Forbidden )
[19:08] <Pici> !xbug > tacone (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:08] <DRebellion> !msgthebot > alpaco
[19:08] <ally_xoxo> i think iust broke my ubuntu
[19:08] <Jack_Sparrow> rEph: Good luck...
[19:08] <rEph> could I do the apt on cd but,  and then mount the iso file? heh
[19:08] <olskolirc> or type korn
[19:08] <ally_xoxo> "custome" theme no longer exists in my box
[19:08] <DRebellion> !xbug | tacone
[19:08] <ubotu> tacone: The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, which is why you currently get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[19:08] <olskolirc> or csh
[19:08] <alpaco> thanks
[19:08] <tacone> Pici: thanks
[19:08] <aladdinsane> can anyone recommend an old NVIDIA AGP card that works fine with ubuntu, 64 or 128mb is enough. I just have to get rid of my ATI which ubuntu hates..
[19:08] <J_P> QuickGold: how I start ?
[19:08] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: can you see everything fine?
[19:08] <froek> anyone get dual head ATI working in gutsy yet?
[19:08] <QuickGold> !install | J_P
[19:08] <alpaco> I guess I need to apt-get these shells
[19:08] <ubotu> J_P: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[19:09] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: that can mean that you're just using a standard theme, without having customised it
[19:09] <azlon> im really starting to hate linux
[19:09] <DRebellion> QuickGold: i did that already
[19:09] <ally_xoxo> yes i can
[19:09] <Jack_Sparrow> aladdinsane: THe 6600 should work fine for that
[19:09] <olskolirc> ok well i am finally off to sleep
[19:09] <olskolirc> niters
[19:09] <Pygmymath> azlon: any reason?
[19:09] <DRebellion> azlon: what is the problem?
[19:09] <ally_xoxo> well the colors and stuff changed....
[19:09] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: did you save your theme when you changed it?
[19:09] <un0p> GNUtoo, ok, what was your original problem with X? no direct rendering ?
[19:09] <azlon> Pygmymath: i cant open my terminal and my screen is all jacked up
[19:09] <ally_xoxo> i can't remmber
[19:09] <rEph> Jack_Sparrow: ok we can use that hwoever...is there a cli aptoncd =)
[19:09] <GNUtoo> un0p, yes
[19:09] <rama_8086> when i start my PC it is showing screen resolution high range with improper desktop,hw can i solve that error
[19:09] <ally_xoxo> it said "successfully installed"
[19:09] <azlon> Pygmymath: i have been spending all night trying ot figure out how to get dual monitor support
[19:09] <J_P> QuickGold: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows ;-) thanks
[19:10] <DRebellion> !resolution | rama_8086
[19:10] <ubotu> rama_8086: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:10] <ally_xoxo> and after i selected the theme i closed the apperance box
[19:10] <mrmonday> where does ubuntu store it's list of services to run at start up?
[19:10] <Pygmymath> azlon: aah fun. ati?
[19:10] <mrmonday> I'd like to disable one
[19:10] <DRebellion> mrmonday: /etc/init.d
[19:10] <MrObvious> /etc/inint.d
[19:10] <mrmonday> thanks =]
[19:10] <alpaco> is it safe to install .deb debian binaries on ubuntu
[19:10] <MrObvious> Err init
[19:10] <Pici> !boot > mrmonday (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:10] <MicheleZ> hi. How do I change the association between a mime type and a program for file-roller?
[19:10] <spanther> alpaco,  sure :)
[19:10] <azlon> Pygmymath: i now have the nvidia drivers installed, but my resolution is all jacked up, and the monitors are backwards (i have to move my mouse all the way left to go on the right monitor)
[19:10] <MrObvious> alpaco: Not rally.
[19:10] <Jack_Sparrow> rEph: Please read the link.. it is quite informative
[19:10] <alpaco> I mean from the original debian repository
[19:10] <spanther> MrObvious, why not? Oo
[19:10] <MrObvious> alpaco: It /can/ work but good luck.
[19:10] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: in that case it'll be using the theme you selected.. when you customise a theme it creates a temporary theme to store your customness.. if that makes sense
[19:11] <MrObvious> alpaco: Make sure Ubuntu doesn't have it first.
[19:11] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: so when you havent customised a theme without saving it, the custom theme doesnt appear
[19:11] <ally_xoxo> how do i get the ubuntu default theme back?
[19:11] <un0p> GNUtoo, check the /var/log/xorg.* files for errors -- check to see why dri/drm aren't loaded
[19:11] <spanther> MrObvious,  ubuntu is debian based so wheres the prob then ^^
[19:11] <azlon> Pygmymath: is there a way i can revert to settings from 1500 today?
[19:11] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: the default one is called "human" :)
[19:11] <ally_xoxo> right
[19:11] <rEph> Jack_Sparrow: which link =s... the !aptoncd didn't provide one that I saw
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> azi
[19:11] <GNUtoo> un0p, i don't see any reason there that's the problem...
[19:11] <ally_xoxo> i selected Human
[19:11] <MrObvious> spanther: There are some package differences that could break dependencies. I know Ubuntu *was* based on Debian but since then has evolved.
[19:11] <rEph> Jack_Sparrow: sorry not used to such highspeed
[19:11] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> azlon, cannot login to gnome?
[19:11] <Yanomami> what is Universe repository?
[19:12] <alpaco> I need some manual for making debian package files specifically for ubuntu
[19:12] <MrObvious> !universe | Yanomami
[19:12] <ubotu> Yanomami: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[19:12] <Link> Ok got the Iso burnt thanks guys
[19:12] <Pygmymath> azlon: have you been making your dualhead changes in xorg.conf
[19:12] <Link> Bye
[19:12] <spanther> MrObvious, ah i see they ran another way :) okay didnt know that
[19:12] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: back to normal? other than wallpaper
[19:12] <alpaco> I mean compiling source, debuld? etc...
[19:12] <MrObvious> spanther: :)
[19:12] <nekostar> wow
[19:12] <azlon> [Gutsy]TuTUXG: i'm logged in, but i cant bring up my terminal... it acts like its going to open, but never does
[19:12] <ally_xoxo> yeah
[19:12] <nekostar> sounds like today'
[19:12]  * MrObvious goes to lunch now
[19:12] <ally_xoxo> its back....
[19:12] <nekostar> s updates caused some lively errors
[19:12] <ally_xoxo> i gotta learn how to do this better! hehe
[19:12] <azlon> Pygmymath: i have been using nvidia-settings
[19:12] <spanther> MrObvious, enjoy meal ^^
[19:12] <alpaco> what do ubuntu staff do in order to compile programs for ubuntu
[19:12] <nekostar> good work guys lol got it solvedish ;D
[19:12] <trpr> MrObvious: was huh? i thought Ubuntu was taking the unstable releases and cleaning them up. that it will always be based on debian
[19:12] <aladdinsane>  Jack_Sparrow, any 6600? they have a few different models, or could i generally trust nvidia to work?
 what theem are you using?
[19:12] <MrObvious> Thanks spanther
[19:13] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: well you've been there and back again which is the main thing. back again is usually the hard part heh
[19:13] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: a custom dark one that i made :) standard icons and such though
[19:13] <Jack_Sparrow> rEph: Please read the link.. http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[19:13] <MrObvious> trpr: It's changed from a basic Debian install. I'm not gonna explain it because I need to eat and I'm hungry lol. Good bye :)
[19:13] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: fancy 3d window borders though
[19:13] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> azlon, did u install the latest update?
[19:13] <spanther> trpr, uh nope it seems like ubuntu has some things different from the native debian cause its modified so you can break dependencies sometimes
[19:13] <MoLux> hi all
[19:13] <azlon> Pygmymath: thats when the trouble started... i downloaded some new drivers, resolution went all jacked... then i tried to fix it with nvidia-settings... and it went downhill formt here
[19:13] <Pygmymath> azlon: i cant help you with that thing, i use ati i'm afraid
[19:13] <Jack_Sparrow> aladdinsane: I use 6600oc but most any will work fine...
[19:13] <azlon> [Gutsy]TuTUXG: i did have it installed, but then it didnt find my primiary monitor, so i went back to the old one
[19:13] <trpr> MrObvious: good bye. just so you know, I think I know better or I wouldn't have mentioned it. misinformation being spread about
[19:13] <danonura> does photorec run at the same time testdisk is run. is photorec part of testdisk. or can i run photorec by itself?
[19:14] <alpaco> is it written anywhere what how ubuntu packages are compiled? I want to learn making ubuntu packages
[19:14] <azlon> [Gutsy]TuTUXG:  i will try downloading the new drivers again, brb
[19:14] <Pygmymath> azlon: are you talking on the ubuntu box now?
[19:14] <Pici> !pacakging | alpaco
[19:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pacakging - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:14] <Pici> !packaging | alpaco
[19:14] <ubotu> alpaco: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[19:14] <spanther> azlon, but thats nvidia's fault cause they dont give out their drivers as opensource fixing issues is hard then hehe
[19:14] <alpaco> s/what how/how/
[19:14] <Vorondil> Hi all, quick question:  Using gxine, is there a way to keep a file loaded after it finishes playing?  For instance, if I open an mp3, and play it til the end, if I want to listen to it again, I have to File->Open... again rather than just hit the play button.
[19:14] <ubuntu> hi
[19:14] <azlon> Pygmymath: yeah, only computer i have unfortunately... in the middle of BFK (butt f' Kuwait)
[19:15] <Pygmymath> azlon: heh ouch. i was gonna say if you need a terminal that bad you can always hit ctrl alt f1 - f6 to switch to one
[19:15] <MoLux> i would like to defragment my external ntfs drive do you know any program that can do that
[19:15] <Pygmymath> azlon: and ctrl alt f7 to switch back to gnome
[19:15] <MoLux> ?
[19:15] <mrmonday> thanks for your help everyone, I'm gonna reboot, and hope for the best :)
[19:15] <Pygmymath> mrmonday: good luck!
[19:15] <alpaco> Pici, ubotu: thank
[19:15] <alpaco> s
[19:15] <Paulo> ei
[19:15] <azlon> oh sweet
[19:15] <Paulo> quem sou?
[19:15] <CruCio> Hey guys , since i have a powerPC and java doesn't work with it is there anyways i can watch videos on youtube using ubuntu ??
[19:15] <spanther> mrmonday,  good luck :)
[19:15] <azlon> Pygmymath: i didnt know that... i might have to use that
[19:16] <alpaco> !packaging | alpac
[19:16] <ubotu> alpac: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[19:16] <rEph> Jack_Sparrow: yeh,  I see no cli methods for aptoncd...real shame
[19:16] <henroc> Anyone know how to reset a serial port that was "stuck" by pppd?
[19:16] <CruCio> So..
[19:16] <MoLux> i would like to defragment my external ntfs drive do you know any program that can do that?
[19:16] <CruCio> i repeat
[19:16] <alpaco> !packaging | alpaco
[19:16] <annoia> I've bought an AMD Phenom 9500, which is supposed to run at 2.2Ghz per core. However, in Ubuntu it is rated at 1.8...
[19:16] <Pici> !packaging > alpaco (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:16] <henroc> I have it connected to a null modem cable, and now all comms on ttyS0 are hanging
[19:16] <adrock358> I was talking to someone about ten mintues ago.  are you still here?
[19:16] <azlon> [Gutsy]TuTUXG: downloading new drivers now.... once i install these, what should i do next?
[19:16] <annoia> (Don't really know about in Windows, but the BIOS says 2.2)
[19:16] <CruCio> is there anyway i can watch youtube videos without java installed ?
[19:16] <spanther> azlon, nvidia drivers sometimes have issues but thats hardly fixable through linux itself cause nobody can look inside driver code but you can be glad to have nvidia and not ati :)
[19:16] <Pygmymath> azlon: handy thing to know :) have a look in xorg.conf see if anything is obviously wrong in that
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> rEph: You have a very unusual situation...  I dont have an answer nor have I seen anything that would work for you
[19:17] <Pygmymath> CruCio: isnt youtube running on flash?
[19:17] <spanther> CruCio, youtube videos use flash
[19:17] <MoLux> i would like to defragment my external ntfs drive do you know any program that can do that?
[19:17] <unstable> MrObvious: Is that normal?
[19:17] <unstable> MrObvious: Is there a fix for this?
[19:17] <azlon> Pygmymath: this is day 2 of using ubuntu... im not sure anything would stand out to me...
[19:17] <CruCio> i can't install flash
[19:17] <CruCio> its broken ?
[19:17] <Pici> !flash > CruCio (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:18] <Pygmymath> azlon: ok, pop into a terminal, typ sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:18] <azlon> spanther: if i should be happy to have these issues compared to ati, im never going to buy an ati!
[19:18] <adrock358> mrobvious.  hey what was the command to see if i have the rt73 chipset?
[19:18] <Pygmymath> azlon: see if you noticed any unusual screen resolutions in there
[19:18] <MicheleZ> !flash
[19:18] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:18] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[19:18] <Pygmymath> azlon: nano is a terminal based text editor, but i advise you not to delete anything yet. just in case
[19:18] <Jack_Sparrow> m
[19:19] <spanther> azlon, lol xD for real i do have ATI X850XT at my tower and its just the hell :> on windows okay they work most the time (not everytime sometimes pc crashes randomly and reboots) but at linux the ATI closed source drivers are sooo damn crappy ^^
[19:19] <azlon> Pygmymath: cool, brb
[19:19] <ally_xoxo> is there any security issues with ubuntu, i.e the kernel?
[19:19] <alpaco> !Gnash
[19:19] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[19:19] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: my mouse is under my own control at the moment :)
[19:19] <adrock358> does anyone know about the alternative cd?
[19:19] <Flannel> ally_xoxo: The kernel gets regular security patches.  So, not that we know of.
[19:19] <Flannel> !anyone | adrock358
[19:19] <Pygmymath> CruCio: if you need help installing flash its pretty easy when you know how, if you want to know
[19:19] <Jack_Sparrow> molux I have your answer... http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd
[19:19] <ally_xoxo> oh okay
[19:19]  * profanephobia is away: I'm gone
[19:20] <Flannel> adrock358: Whats your question?
[19:20] <ubotu> adrock358: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:20] <Flannel> !away > profanephobia
[19:20]  * profanephobia is back (gone 00:00:05)
[19:20] <adrock358> the alternative cd with updated driver support
[19:20] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: what Flannel said aswell
[19:20] <Pici> Flannel: I got him.
[19:20] <adrock358> flannel alternative cd with updated driver support
[19:20] <King> Hola bns tardes...
[19:20] <ally_xoxo> what's the news on the new ubuntu release in April?
[19:21] <mrmonday> hey all, I fixed it now, thanks to everyone that helped =]
[19:21] <ally_xoxo> totally revamped?
[19:21] <h1st0> ally_xoxo: still in april
[19:21] <h1st0> !hardy > ally_xoxo,   ally_xoxo Read the private message from ubotu.
[19:21] <Pygmymath> ally_xoxo: just heard about it today, thankyou for reminding me to check it out :D
[19:21] <King> alguien de colombia
[19:21] <h1st0> !es
[19:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> adrock358: Please just ask the question... Yes, alternate cd works better for some troublesome hardware.
[19:22] <CruCio> so once i install this and don't receive fkash updates through package manager ?
[19:22] <CruCio> wouuld i have to manualy updated it
[19:22] <CruCio> when required ?
[19:22] <anderswc> does anyone know where I can add users to proftp?
[19:22] <adrock358> jack_sparrow  i just asked the question.  did you see it?  or were you too busy typing?  Would anyone else like to bot me for something?
[19:22] <Andy---> Hi, I'm running ubuntu on my laptop with an external monitor attached. Everything is working fine except the laptop monitor won't turn off when the external monitor is plugged in. Can anyone help me figure out how to get the laptop monitor to turn off?
[19:23] <adrock358> my question is does the live cd have support for my wifi card.  belkinf5d7050
[19:23] <h1st0> Andy---: does you laptop have a button to controll the output of the display?  Look for a little function button with a picture of a monitor.
[19:23] <Jack_Sparrow> adrock358: I did not see the question.. just your comments..twice
[19:23] <Pygmymath> CruCio: i installed flash from a .tar.gz from the adobe website, which has done me well. but as far as i know i will have to update manually
[19:23] <h1st0> adrock358: you need the firmware
[19:23] <DRebellion> adrock358: i think the easiest way to find out would be to boot it and see :P
[19:23] <Andy---> h1st0, fn + f5
[19:23] <mexle__> hallo
[19:23] <Andy---> h1st0, but that function doesn't work in linux
[19:24] <alpaco> where am I supposed to enter commands like this?: !backports
[19:24] <h1st0> Andy---: that function is on a hardware level and should work.
[19:24] <CruCio> anyways its all good right ?
[19:24] <azlon> Pygmymath: ok, i looked in that file
[19:24] <DRebellion> !bot | alpaco
[19:24] <ubotu> alpaco: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:24] <CruCio> by the time flash ver10 shows up
[19:24] <adrock358> good call drebellion, but is there any way to read a list of supported wifi drivers before i do that?
[19:24] <h1st0> adrock358: don't you have a broadcomm chipset in that card?
[19:24] <Pici> alpaco: /msg ubotu backports
[19:24] <CruCio> w'e'd have ubuntu 8
[19:24] <azlon> Pygmymath: looks like the settings for my primary monitor are kinda jacked... it has it as a generic monitor (im not sure what it really is since its build into the laptop)
[19:24] <aladdinsane> regarding NVIDIA cards and their compability with linux, does it matter who ships the card, or do them all work as long as the chipset is nvidia?
[19:24] <unstable> what is that terminal mouse program?
[19:24] <Andy---> h1st0, the external screen turns off and then right back on when I use that function in linux. In windows it has three modes and works correctly.
[19:24] <adrock358> h1st0.  what do i type in terminal to find my chipdset?  i think it's rt73
[19:24] <unstable> 3 letters, starts with a g
[19:25] <h1st0> aladdinsane: not really doesn't matter as long as it not some black market fake card.
[19:25] <Pici> unstable: gpm?
[19:25] <unstable> thanks
[19:25] <h1st0> adrock358: lspci
[19:25] <Steffan> Pygmymath, my problem is fixed!
[19:25] <CruCio> Pygmymath i don't know to install it from .tar.gz from adobe website
[19:25] <mmurner> hiho
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> aladdinsane: I have them from bfg and dell and others.. all seem to work fine.. a couple did need to have xorg reconfigured at the worst
[19:25] <CruCio> could you show me ?
[19:25] <genii> adrock358: This is the external usb lan adapter?
[19:25] <h1st0> adrock358: argh that chipset is supposedly a pita.  Search the forums would be a good bet.
[19:25] <Pygmymath> Steffan: awesome! :D howd you do it?
[19:25] <Steffan> had to reinstall my nvidia drive
[19:25] <Steffan> r
[19:26] <alpaco>  /msg ubotu backports
[19:26] <alpaco> thanks
[19:26] <Pygmymath> CruCio: the .tar.gz is a .zip file
[19:26] <mmurner> I have a problem updating my newly installed system :(
[19:26] <CruCio> yea
[19:26] <CruCio>  i know that
[19:26] <Pygmymath> Steffan: not too painful then
[19:26] <Pygmymath> CruCio: extract the contained folder somewhere
[19:26] <h1st0> mmurner: What problem are you having right now?
[19:26] <mmurner> "http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb" is forbidden
[19:26] <adrock358> genii yup
[19:26] <Pici> !xbug > mmurner (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:26] <Pygmymath> CruCio: there should be an install script, drag that onto a terminal, follow the script and its in
[19:26] <adrock358> h1st0 82540EM
[19:26] <Pygmymath> azlon: Generic monitor is usually fine, anything else jacked about it though
[19:27] <Jim__> Get on that security repository :)
[19:27] <Pygmymath> azlon: let me check mine
[19:27] <CruCio> install script ?
[19:27] <CruCio> ok
[19:27] <CruCio> ok
[19:27] <QuickGold> im trying to install ubuntu desktop on ubuntu server and i'm getting a "Forbidden Error 403" when it tries to get the xserver-xorg pacakge. Any ideas?
[19:27] <CruCio> lemme try
[19:27] <Pygmymath> !xbug > QuickGold
[19:27] <h1st0> adrock358: look at the network card output to see what it says
[19:27] <QuickGold> !xbug | QuickGold
[19:27] <robdeman> anybody here that can help me? see http://pastebin.com/mc704535 --> I cannot get SSL to work (https)
[19:27] <mmurner> QuickGold: I think you have the same problem like me
[19:27] <h1st0> adrock358: ex: lspci | grep Network
[19:27] <QuickGold> mmurner: have you found a workaround?
[19:27] <mmurner> not yet
[19:28] <mmurner> I'm here asking ;)
[19:28] <azlon> Pygmymath: it wont let me set my resolution to 1440x900... my secondary monitor is set to that... and the primary was set to taht before i start playing with drivers and nvidia-settings
[19:28] <genii> adrock358: Some of those use the rt2500usb driver, some of them use the rt73usb driver
[19:28] <aladdinsane> Jack_Sparrow: ok cool, i was just browsing through the list on ebay and found a zillion different ones
[19:28] <CruCio> Pygmy so i unzip the file first right ?
[19:28] <adrock358> genii i had a problem on the part of the guide that where i was supposed to mount the drive.  also, i don't have much time at all.  is there i shorter, less code-intensive way to solve my problem?  like copy the driver from the altenative cd or something?  it will take forever if i have to put that code in myself.
[19:28] <QuickGold> So I'm SOL?
[19:28] <Jack_Sparrow> aladdinsane: Yes, very confusing.. I do like the 6600's that I have used...
[19:28] <Pici> !xbug | QuickGold
[19:28] <ubotu> QuickGold: The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, which is why you currently get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[19:29] <Pygmymath> azlon: did you see the available resolution options in the xorg.conf? try adding the proper ones to the monitor, but leave yourself some backup resolutions like 800x600
[19:29] <CruCio> is the name of install script called flashplayer-installer ?
[19:29] <adrock358> genii i have the belkin usb f5d7050 v.3 funny thing is the adapt work on livecd, and not in regular install
[19:29] <Pygmymath> CruCio: yes :)
[19:29] <Pygmymath> azlon: do make a backup though!
[19:29] <CruCio> so i drag that into terminal right ?
[19:29] <h1st0> adrock358: you could try and see what driver the live cd was using.
[19:29] <azlon> Pygmymath: ok, will do, brb
[19:29] <QuickGold> Ok, I understand the issue with X.org.  Isn't there a workaround? Like an older version? Alpha version?
[19:29] <Pygmymath> azlon: to do that in nano just press ctrl + o, add .bak to the end of the name and hit save
[19:29] <mmurner> Pici: and how can we do a workaround?
[19:29] <Pygmymath> CruCio: yep, then hit enter
[19:30] <mmurner> will there be a good update tomorrow?
[19:30] <cvasilak> FYI The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, which is why you currently get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[19:30] <Dextorion> I've got an ati card, with latest drivers. Running fusion on aiglx. Video playback flickers. Any solution?
[19:30] <Brandon_> arg cups is gonna be the death of me. "Unable to execute "/usr/lib/cups/backend/cupspykota" - Permission denied" it's funny because cups is running as root. I know it's a pykota file, but how can something be denied if the program is running as root?
[19:30] <adrock358> h1st0
[19:30] <genii> adrock358: What h1st0 suggests. On the livecd do: lsmod|grep rt73usb       or lsmod|grep rt2500usb                to see which is correct
[19:30] <adrock358> h1st0 how ?
[19:31] <h1st0> adrock358: like genii sugests
[19:31] <genii> adrock358: Then on the installed ubuntu, put into /etc/modules   the lines usbnet then under that the name of one or the other driver (whichever is the right one)
[19:31] <h1st0> adrock358: I'm suprised the card wouldn't work with the install though.
[19:31] <h1st0> adrock358: did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in.
[19:32] <azlon> Pygmymath: how do i copy text in nano?
[19:32] <adrock358> guys i can paste bin because it shuts down my i connection.  i ahve to im or flood
[19:32] <adrock358> i typed both commands, and they both have returns
[19:32] <genii> h1st0: I think it's because usbnet driver is not standard loaded on regular install, which is prerequisite for those drivers
[19:32] <azlon> Pygmymath: like to do a copy/paste from my other monitor settings
[19:32] <Pygmymath> azlon easier to write it out by hand tbh, but look for the cut and uncut text comands
[19:32] <Pygmymath> ^C means ctrl + c
[19:32] <h1st0> genii: i don't know enough about that to help him though.
[19:33] <Pygmymath> azlon: you can cut a line, uncut it to put it back in place and then uncut it again
[19:33] <h1st0> genii: i know the howto he's following in the wiki is quite dated though.
[19:33] <mmurner> Pici, QuickGold: so you think that we just should wait for another update package?
[19:33] <Pygmymath> azlon: when you use that it cuts the entire line
[19:33] <flipmode> i cant get my dvd player to work right
[19:33] <QuickGold> mmurner: From what I gather, that's where we stand.  Which stinks because I've been working on this box all day and i'm so close
[19:33] <fuex> hi
[19:33] <mmurner> :)
[19:33] <adrock358> genii guys i can paste bin because it shuts down my i connection.  i ahve to im or flood
[19:33] <mmurner> okay, thanks
[19:33] <CruCio> Pygmymath , it didn't work out for me :(
[19:33] <adrock358> genii : i typed both commands, and they both have returns
[19:34] <mmurner> then I will try to update tomorrow again
[19:34] <flipmode> #Kubuntu
[19:34] <CruCio> it says
[19:34] <h1st0> adrock358: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/08/howto-setup-belkin-wireless-g-f5d7050.html
[19:34] <mmurner> see you
[19:34] <Pygmymath> CruCio: did the script itself run?
[19:34] <CruCio> Do you want to run "flashplayer-installer", or display its contents?
[19:34] <Jack_Sparrow> CruCio: Are you trying to get flash
[19:34] <CruCio> "flashplayer-installer" is an executable text file
[19:34] <h1st0> adrock358: no you paste to the pastebin site not in here
[19:34] <CruCio> Yes
[19:34] <QuickGold> mmurner: according to a developer, "This will be fixed very soon."
[19:34] <Pygmymath> CruCio: there should be an option "run in terminal"
[19:34] <h1st0> !paste | adrock358
[19:34] <ubotu> adrock358: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:34] <CruCio> yes
[19:34] <fuex> trying to upgrade packages. and some can't be authenticated. ...  is that a known issue? I searchec the forums - nothing
[19:34] <CruCio>  i chose that
[19:34] <CruCio> but nothing happns
[19:34] <aladdinsane>  Jack_Sparrow: i think i found one now: nVidia GeForce FX 5500, but when i browse through the drivers-list in ubuntu i says "(generic)" after that driver. Are those generic drivers any good?
[19:35] <CruCio> my PS3 makes some lil noices then thats it
[19:35] <portablejim> anybody had any luck with Xdmx?
[19:35] <Pygmymath> CruCio: did you try opening a termina (applications > accessories > termina) then dragging the file onto that terminal?
[19:35] <grekkos> can someone help me get my sound working? it just stopped working suddenly... I'm getting sound output errors
[19:35] <Jack_Sparrow> aladdinsane: the 5500 is probably not my first choice in nvidia
[19:35] <spanther> waah how cute :3
[19:35] <genii> adrock358: If no errors on commandline from those, then examine result of:  dmesg|tail   to see if it gave the adapter now some designation like wlan0
[19:35] <CruCio> yes i opend terminal
[19:35] <ader10> When I click on conky it draws a selection from the opposite side of the desktop to where I clicked. How can I fix this?
[19:35] <CruCio> and drag flashplayer-installer
[19:35] <CruCio> inside
[19:35] <CruCio> then hit enter
[19:36] <CruCio>  i choose run in terminal
[19:36] <desertc> !sound | grekkos
[19:36] <ubotu> grekkos: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:36] <h1st0> adrock358: what kernel are you running
[19:36] <CruCio> but this windows opens up and closes up in a blink of an eye
[19:36] <adrock358> genii error from dmesg|tail
[19:36] <adrock358> wait, genii, sudo prefix?
[19:36] <h1st0> adrock358: do you want to try something real quick
[19:36] <Pygmymath> CruCio: hmm it shouldnt pop up like that... hit alt+f2 and type xterm and run it
[19:37] <azlon> Pygmymath: ok, i made the changes and saved it (made a backup of course), what should i do now? (im still in nano btw)
[19:37] <adrock358> h1st0 sure
[19:37] <Pygmymath> CruCio: and drag the file into the terminal that comes up then
[19:37] <h1st0> adrock358: cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/wireless/rt2x00
[19:37] <h1st0> adrock358: copy and paste that in terminal
[19:37] <genii> adrock358: Sorry, wait. Those were the lsmod   and not modprobe commands. So it is not inserting whatever just now. Perhaps just put to pastebin the entire result of commands: dmesg    and also: lsmod            from on livecd for study
[19:38] <h1st0> adrock358: are you on live cd or install?
[19:38] <Pygmymath> azlon: go back into X (gnome) then hit ctrl + alt + backspace. if it doesnt come back up with login type sudo shutdown -r now
[19:38] <CruCio> xterm is opened a new window
[19:38] <adrock358> genii please give me a few minutes.  thank you.
[19:38] <Pygmymath> azlon: basically reset the X server heh
[19:38] <genii> h1st0: Good Q
[19:38] <adrock358> h1st0 live
[19:38] <grekkos> desertc: i have alsa selected, and I don't see anything on this page relevant to what i'm looking for
[19:38] <CruCio> like a compiler
[19:38] <aladdinsane> Jack_Sparrow: why is that? i never play games so if thats why it wouldnt apply to.
[19:38] <Pygmymath> CruCio: xterm is the terminal
[19:38] <h1st0> adrock358: well when you get back to install there is a bug posted about two modules being loaded that conflict
[19:38] <aladdinsane> Jack_Sparrow: *apply to me
[19:38]  * QuickGold prays for a xserver-xorg fix
[19:38] <CruCio> hmmm
[19:38] <desertc> grekkos: Are you using an Intel sound card?
[19:39] <adrock358> h1st0 ok
[19:39] <h1st0> adrock358: you on install now?
[19:39] <Pygmymath> CruCio: try dragging the file in there and hitting enter
[19:39] <grekkos> desertc: it's a sound blaster live... but I also have on board sound, too
[19:39] <CruCio> hmm
[19:39] <Pygmymath> CruCio: when you drag it in it should show the path to the installer file
[19:39] <nicolas_> slt
[19:39] <grekkos> desertc: it usually works but today it's not working anymore
[19:39] <fuex> hey
[19:39] <CruCio> yes i don't understand Math
[19:39] <CruCio> but ehh
[19:40] <CruCio> the my knew terminal now looks like a console
[19:40] <CruCio> its all dakr
[19:40] <Jack_Sparrow> aladdinsane: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2277                $54
[19:40] <fuex> did really noone notice  that there are  unauthenticated packages waiting to be upgraded?  or does  that only happen on my system?
[19:40] <desertc> grekkos: You get no sound anywhere?
[19:40] <Pygmymath> CruCio: the terminal is a console
[19:40] <Pygmymath> CruCio: basically anyway
[19:40] <grekkos> desertc: I used to get sound from alsa, then it stopped, so i was using OSS, and now OSS doesn't work either.
[19:40] <Pygmymath> grekkos: back to alsa? :P
[19:40] <desertc> grekkos: >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/156930
[19:41] <adrock358> genii http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52470/
[19:41] <CruCio> but this one doean't accept dragin
[19:41] <adrock358> h1st0 no, live
[19:41] <grekkos> Pygmymath: heh tried that already ;)
[19:41] <CruCio> doesn't*
[19:41] <Jack_Sparrow> aladdinsane: Even if you dont play games.  $54 isnt much and you will like the effects like cube etc...
[19:41] <genii> h1st0: Work needs me for maybe 5 minutes so please help adrock358 as possible until I can return
[19:41] <CruCio> drag*
[19:41] <Pygmymath> grekkos: one step ahead :<
[19:41] <genii> adrock358: see my msg to h1st0
[19:41] <Pygmymath> CruCio: ok, where is the installer file?
[19:41] <Gothfunc> just upgraded about 30ish new packages on gutsy and both eclipse and azureus are now broken.  anyone had the same thing happen?
[19:41] <gr0gomint> hey guys can somebody with experience in  iproute2 + netfilter help me out ??
[19:41] <Yanomami> what is Universe repository?
[19:41] <azlon> Pygmymath: ok, now i have 800x600 cloned
[19:42] <xif> is there a way to see a log for recently updated packages via apt-get?
[19:42] <Pygmymath> CruCio: in that console/terminal type cd /home/<your username>/rest/of/the/path you can use tab to autocomplete directory names
[19:42] <azlon> Pygmymath: which imho is a step forward
[19:42] <h1st0> adrock358: take out the live cd and boot to the install
[19:42] <CruCio> on my desktop
[19:42] <Pygmymath> azlon: awesome, definitely
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !repos > Yanomami
[19:42] <adrock358> ok
[19:42] <xif> i.e. I'm looking to see something like: "package foo1 was updated to foo2 yesterday on 18:00 pm"
[19:42] <adrock358> h1st0, then?
[19:42] <h1st0> adrock358: I have some directions for you.
[19:42] <gr0gomint> can somebody with experience in  iproute2 + netfilter help me out ??
[19:42] <Pygmymath> CruCio: if your username on ubuntu is crucio then it should be cd /home/crucio/Desktop/flashplayer-installer
[19:43] <azlon> Pygmymath: now what do i do? i really dont want to mess up like i did before... its made me a bit timid aobut playing with it
[19:43] <adrock358> h1st0, wifi is my only internet connec because me router is in my dad's room which i don't have access to
[19:43] <CruCio> good good
[19:43] <CruCio> ok
[19:43] <Jack_Sparrow> gr0gomint: Please dont repeat quite so often...
[19:43] <h1st0> adrock358: ahh well let me give you link to the bug
[19:43] <adrock358> h1st0 ok
[19:43] <Pygmymath> azlon: dont be timid! you have a backup and know how to fix it up without gnome, whats there to be afraid of :P
[19:43] <QuickGold> mmurner: the fix should be available within the next 20 minutes or so.
[19:43] <adrock358> h1st0 do you think this bug is my problem?
[19:43] <h1st0> adrock358: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/139070  try the third comment down
[19:43] <azlon> lol
[19:43] <aladdinsane> Jack_Sparrow: yes i know they are dead cheap and it isn't much money to argue about, especially if u live in the states (which i don't) i just wanted to outcheap the market :) if i could get away with $20 why not
[19:44] <azlon> hah! and my terminal is working agian!
[19:44] <azlon> sweet!
[19:44] <h1st0> adrock358: yeah the third comment down gives directions that don't involve buidlign the serial monkey drivers
[19:44] <Pygmymath> azlon: get back in there and add your crazy laptop resolutions :P keep the 800x600 to fall back on aswell just in case and see if it works
[19:44] <Pygmymath> azlon: success :P dont need to keep going between alt f1 /7
[19:44] <h1st0> adrock358: do you see what i'm talking aobut
[19:44] <QuickGold> The xserver-xorg fix should be available within the next 20 minutes or so.
[19:45] <adrock358> h1st0 yeah.  what do i do with the duplicate id's
[19:45] <marce_> Hello, i have a problem with nfs. I have a nfs server and when i edit a file with gedit from a client, the file permissions of that file changes from 644 to 600. Any solutions?
[19:45] <Pygmymath> QuickGold: good news heh
[19:45] <QuickGold> Yea i'd say so.  I have a box waiting on it
[19:45] <h1st0> adrock358: don't worry about that just follow his directions.  Basically you are renaming the bad module to rt2500usb.ko_bak so its not loaded
[19:45] <Gothfunc> ok i'll rephrase.  just upgraded about 30ish new packages on gutsy and both eclipse and azureus are now broken.  is there anyone that uses either of these apps who recently upgraded and can load either eclipse or azureus fine?
[19:45] <Pygmymath> QuickGold: luckily the update is sitting there waiting to be installed still.. theres always icewm as a fallback though :P
[19:45] <ikonia> Gothfunc: thats due to an xorg package
[19:46] <ikonia> Gothfunc: that is being fixed and will be re-released shortly
[19:46] <h1st0> adrock358: so the bad pids dont' matter because its not being loaded.  Thats just information he posted so they can work out a fix.
[19:46] <Pygmymath> !xbug > Gothfunc
[19:46] <QuickGold> Pygmymath: Woot!
[19:46] <Gothfunc> great, cheers
[19:46] <bkar> marce_-> if you edit it via a cli like vim or emacs, does it get same faulty permission?
[19:46] <QuickGold> Gothfunc: the fix should be available within the next 20 minutes or so.
[19:46] <Pygmymath> QuickGold: try icewm, its mad :P
[19:46] <h1st0> adrock358: I don't know why he didn't just blacklist the rt2500usb but just follow his directions
[19:46] <adrock358> h1st0, aight.  i am gonst to try it.  thank you very much.  i will be back soon in all reality.  peace out.
[19:46] <Pygmymath> QuickGold: 5mb of ram used heh
[19:46] <h1st0> adrock358: make sure you undo whatever you've done already
[19:46] <unstable> How can I tell what temperature my AMD/AM2 socket X2 6400 is at?
[19:46] <QuickGold> pygmymath: let me google it
[19:46] <h1st0> adrock358: like adding stuff to blacklist etc...
[19:46] <Jack_Sparrow> aladdinsane: Your choice and you know what you want to do with the unit now. but there is always the question about what you  will want to do in the future and if you pass it on.. what they will want to do..  $30 difference isnt much and it will increase the future use by you or someone else.
[19:47] <marce_> bkar: i tried editing it from open office writer and it works fine, i think its an issue from gedit, or some conf.
[19:47] <Pygmymath> QuickGold: low memory window manager heh
[19:47] <QuickGold> PygmymathL 5mb? o_0
[19:47] <adrock358> i tried to blacklist rt2500usb already.  it didn't work. h1st0
[19:47] <adrock358> h1st0 i just fresh installed
[19:47] <h1st0> adrock358: hold on a sec
[19:47] <Gothfunc> ikonia, Pygmymath, QuickGold: this isn't the first time eclipse or azureus have broken after an upgrade.  will it just keep happening?  it seems very bad that existing software breaks if you want to keep up to date with a stable release.  at the moment i'm considering never updating just so i don't have downtime :s
[19:47] <robdeman> hi all -- all 'SSL on Ubuntu' how-to's suggest to apt-get install libapache-mod-ssl ... buw when I do this it doesnt seem to exist?
[19:47] <bkar> marce_-> that is odd, so you yeah go look around gedit config files see if you can shed some light
[19:47] <mattgyver83> Is it possible to assign different user logins to different wired networks?
[19:48] <h1st0> adrock358: i'm reading further down he was saying he was wrong
[19:48] <grekkos> desertc: where's the "test" button in the sound gui in gnome
[19:48] <ikonia> Gothfunc: your using java dependant packages, it shouldn't break often but it is quite sensitive
[19:48] <marce_> bkar: hum... you know where the gedit conf file is?
[19:48] <Pygmymath> Gothfunc: this is the first breakage i've seen and is it a problem with logging into gnome, or with those two programs specifically?
[19:48] <QuickGold> Gothfunc: Unless there's a specific feature you need, i wouldnt upgrade
[19:48] <grekkos> desertc: nevermind, was in the wrong panel
[19:48] <desertc> grekkos: Yep
[19:48] <bkar> marce_-> nope... not off hand
[19:48] <Gothfunc> ikonia, Pygmymath, QuickGold: thanks :)
[19:48] <grekkos> desertc: i clicked test and the program froze up
[19:49] <marce_> bkar: ok, i'll search
[19:49] <desertc> grekkos: Not good...
[19:49] <azlon> Pygmymath: i still see all my resolutions in the xorg.conf, but when i go to System > Preferences > Screen Resolution, it only shows 640x480 and 800x600
[19:49] <aladdinsane> Jack_Sparrow: yes true, i found that card on ebay now to for about $20 so i guess we both win ;) thnx for the tip though!
[19:49] <ikonia> azlon: what card do you have
[19:49] <desertc> grekkos: Sorry, I can't help you any more.  Maybe someone else knows.
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[19:49] <azlon> ikonia: NVIDIA GeForce 7 series
[19:49] <simion314> how can i install the kernel source code?
[19:49] <ikonia> azlon: what driver are you using ?
[19:49] <Pygmymath> Gothfunc: to be fair, most of the udpates are fine. but when you're updating something that basically makes what you're seeing work.. a small error turns into a massive one
[19:49] <desertc> grekkos: Try to collect all the diagnostic results from the tools to which I linked.
[19:50] <robdeman> where do I get apache2-ssl-certificate?
[19:50] <azlon> uhmm... nvidia...something...new
[19:50] <ijn> adobe flash player in ubuntu 7.10 64bit
[19:50] <azlon> nvidia-gfx-new or something like that
[19:50] <Pygmymath> azlon: from there methinks it'll be nvidia where i really dont have a clue heh
[19:50] <ikonia> robdeman: the package or the actual cetificate
[19:50] <ijn> any link??
[19:50] <adrock358> h1st0  .......so what is the conclusion from your point of view as what my next step should be?  I do have to go for about an hour.
[19:50] <ikonia> azlon: ok grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf please
[19:50] <h1st0> adrock358: i'm reading through the bug right now to see
[19:50] <ikonia> ijn: no it doesn't exist
[19:50] <Gothfunc> Pygmymath: sure
[19:50] <azlon> ikonia: 2nd day using ubuntu... whats grep?
[19:50] <Flannel> robdeman: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/httpd.html
[19:50] <robdeman> ikonia: the package to generate a certificate
[19:50] <ikonia> azlon: open a command prompt, do you know how to do that
[19:51] <ompaul> !paste | adrock358 (consider adding a different browser or starting one from the command line if you are having problems)
[19:51] <ubotu> adrock358 (consider adding a different browser or starting one from the command line if you are having problems): pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:51] <ikonia> azlon: what's the package called ?
[19:51] <ijn> how to install adobe flash on ubuntu gutsy 64 bit??
[19:51] <hangthedj> so is the xserver-xorg update giving a 403 error part of the security break?
[19:51] <azlon> ikonia: im in terminal right now... i did sudo nano blah/blah/xorg.conf
[19:51] <QuickGold> +/- 10 mins to xserver-xorg fix
[19:51] <hangthedj> cool
[19:51] <ikonia> ijn: you can't at the moment a.) the flash package is broke, 2.) the flash plugin is 32bit nativly and you have to use wrappers to use it
[19:51] <QuickGold> hangthedj: Yes, it's broken
[19:51] <ikonia> azlon: drop out of the edit and do "grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[19:52] <ijn> it's just broked today??
[19:52] <QuickGold> 10 hours ago
[19:52] <adrock358> ompaul why?
[19:52] <ijn> cause I allready installed two days ago
[19:52] <ikonia> ijn: no, it's been broken for weeks, however even then it would still be native 32bit
[19:52] <ompaul> adrock358, you said something about not being able to paste
[19:52] <ijn> in some link that some gave me in this room
[19:52] <azlon> ikonia: the package for what i downloaded is nvidia-glx-new... ill do the grep now...
[19:52] <ikonia> azlon: ok
[19:52] <ijn> it was fom ubuntu forums
[19:52] <lex_> has anyone on 7.10 had problems transferring files over 4gb that just stop when they hit 4gb?
[19:53] <ikonia> lex_: moving to what file system ?
[19:53] <azlon> ikonia: when i did that it gave me a list of items... 2 of which were nvidia... how do i select that one?
[19:53] <lex_> ikonia from ext3 to fat32 (vfat on a flash drive to be exact)
[19:53] <ikonia> azlon: tell you what, just paste the lot in the pastebin
[19:54] <ikonia> lex_: fat32 has a max file size of 4gb
[19:54] <ikonia> lex_: it's a file system limitation
[19:54] <IPGHOST> hi
[19:54] <azlon> ikonia: ok, brb
[19:54] <ikonia> azlon: ok
[19:54] <Flannel> robdeman: It should be in -common
[19:54] <Pygmymath> azlon: grep just looks for text in whatever output is given to it by the application
[19:54] <h1st0> adrock358: it looks like the only solution for that specific card at this time is to install the serial monkey drivers.
[19:54] <IPGHOST> how cani edit services startup in commnad line mode ???
[19:54] <h1st0> adrock358: so its either that or use a different wifi card.
[19:54] <lex_> ikonia: that's what i thought but i couldn't remember. does ark allow for archiving to two files?
[19:54] <ikonia> lex_: no idea
[19:55] <bkar> IPGHOST-> vim or vi the config file of or your script
[19:55] <IPGHOST> bkar, which file?
[19:55] <danonura> i just deleted 160gb of files so i should have about 320gb free. when i now check via properties it says i only have 160gb of space. do i have to reboot? i'm using ubuntu 7.10 thanks
[19:55] <h1st0> adrock358: That card has some serious issues with ubuntu.  I don't know why they haven't fixed the drivers yet.
[19:55] <bkar> IPGHOST-> which service?
[19:55] <QuickGold> danonura: did you empty the trash bin?
[19:55] <h1st0> danonura: empty the trash can.
[19:55] <IPGHOST> bkar, in init.d ???
[19:55] <tribaldata> anyone no how to push xrandr to use my svideo exit ?
[19:55] <noonan> anyone know how to have package installer get stuff from the web instead of asking for a gutsy cd?
[19:56] <h1st0> noonan: remove the cdrom from System > Administration > Software Sources
[19:56] <tyone> hi dudes
[19:56] <ikonia> noonan: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the deb cd line
[19:56] <danonura> ah no i'm new to ubuntu wasn't sure about that
[19:56] <tribaldata> noonan: remove the line CD from your sources
[19:56] <ikonia> h1st0: better call
[19:56] <tyone> how to i repair my login screen ?
[19:56] <bert> hey, does anybody know why I get a 403 when I try to update xserver-xorg-core for amd64 ??
[19:56] <tyone> it dont work
[19:56] <xand_> hi friends, anyone using tcgui ?
[19:56] <Pygmymath> !xbug > bert
[19:56] <ikonia> bert: the package is blacklisted due to a bug at the moment
[19:56] <QuickGold> danonura: right click the trash bin in lower right portion of screen and select the option to empty it
[19:56] <azlon> ikonia: this is my xorg.conf: http://paste2.org/p/12090
[19:56] <ikonia> azlon: ok
[19:56] <danonura> h1st0: thanks
[19:56] <QuickGold> Bert: a fix should be out in about 10 mins
[19:57] <bert> okey, /thx
[19:57] <noonan> ikonia, do I have to enable any other lines in there?
[19:57] <CruCio> :(
[19:57] <ikonia> azlon: your using dual monitors
[19:57] <ikonia> noonan: nope
[19:57] <ikonia> noonan: just remove the cd
[19:57] <h1st0> bert: because the first update was messed up they are fixing the package
[19:57] <CruCio> my ubuntu architecture is i386 :(
[19:57] <danonura> QuickGold:thanks i was just wondering where that was
[19:57] <noonan> ikonia, right, then it will automatically look for it on the web?
[19:57] <azlon> ikonia: im trying to... thats whats kinda causing all the headache... everything was working great until i tried doing dual head
[19:57] <h1st0> noonan: no just uncheck the cdrom as a repo.
[19:57] <tyone> any1 know how to get my login screen back ??
[19:57] <CruCio> Jack-sparrow's is 686 ?
[19:57] <h1st0> noonan: make sure main etc.. are still checked.
[19:57] <CruCio> why are there so many diff ?
[19:57] <gnuskool> i wanna backup an entire partition to cd rom, what can i use?
[19:57] <Brandon_> -rwx------ 1 lp   root 74566 2007-12-05 13:53 <-- is lp the owner and what is root?
[19:57] <emiri_> someone knows how to compile grisbi?
[19:58] <gnuskool> from winxp :D
[19:58] <ikonia> azlon: dual head is a very complex solution. What do you want to achieve - back to a single head display, or keep trying dual head
[19:58] <QuickGold> Brandon_: root is the user group
[19:58] <tribaldata> noonan: as soon as you change the sources.list do apt-get update
[19:58] <gmoore> i currently have my ubuntu system plugged into my Dell lcd (1680x1050). i'm going to shut it down and connect it to my projector (1280x720). will Ubuntu read the device EDID info and set the resolution appropriately, or is it going to keep trying to use the initial res of 1680?
[19:58] <Pygmymath> CruCio: different kinds of computer basically
[19:58] <h1st0> tribaldata: it should in the gui
[19:58] <Pygmymath> CruCio: they're all as good as anything
[19:58] <CruCio> Am using a PS3
[19:58] <Brandon_> QuickGold, and lp is the owner?
[19:58] <ikonia> CruCio: everythin in #ubuntu is x86 generic
[19:58] <azlon> uhmm... i would like dual head... but if thats too complicated i would like to get back to single head 1440x900
[19:58] <ikonia> CruCio: you are using PPC then
[19:58] <QuickGold> Brandon_: Yes, lp is the user (owner)
[19:58] <CruCio> YES!!
[19:58] <gnuskool> join
[19:58] <ikonia> CruCio: x86 (i386-base packages) will not work
[19:58] <CruCio> flash works on PPC right >?
[19:58] <ikonia> CruCio: no
[19:58] <Brandon_> QuickGold, thanks
[19:58] <CruCio> Holycrap!!
[19:59] <Pygmymath> o rly
[19:59] <QuickGold> Brandon_: yw
[19:59] <Pygmymath> thats new to me :|
[19:59] <ikonia> CruCio: 1.) the flash package is broke 2.) the PPC port of ubuntu is community support
[19:59] <QuickGold> For all those with issues with nvidia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671091
[19:59] <CruCio> so what is the point in poeple trying to get IBM PC's ?
[19:59] <danonura> hmm i emptied trash bin and it only added 4gb. now total of 164gb
[19:59] <azlon> ikonia: uhmm... i would like dual head... but if thats too complicated i would like to get back to single head 1440x900
[19:59] <rinaldi_> CruCio: last time i checked there was no ppc flash
[19:59] <tacone> !chroot
[19:59] <ikonia> CruCio: x86 arch is the current mass deployment
[19:59] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[19:59] <ikonia> azlon: lets put you back to a sold single head - then move forward
[19:59] <azlon> ikonia: awesome!
[20:00] <CruCio> so are you telling me People with PPC computers don't have access to java nor flash ??
[20:00] <ikonia> azlon: in a terminal do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and lets walk though that
[20:00] <azlon> 800x600 makes me feel like im 60
[20:00] <ikonia> CruCio: no, thats not what I'm saying
[20:00] <QuickGold> lol azlon
[20:00] <ikonia> CruCio: I'm saying ubuntu doesn't support the PPC port on the PS3 so it's up to the community what is packaged
[20:00] <Pygmymath> azlon: lol... 800 is the number of mhz on my laptop......
[20:01] <CruCio> ohh
[20:01] <CruCio> well it suck having a PPC
[20:01] <evan__> where is the source o matic?
[20:01] <robdeman> hey all My /usr/lib/ssl/openssl.cnf is empty?? im getting  error loading the config file '/usr/lib/ssl/openssl.cnf' ... anybody here knows what to do?
[20:01] <Forsakensoul> !medibuntu
[20:01] <CruCio> good thing am using a PS3
[20:01] <ikonia> CruCio: no-one does anymore after apple stopped making them
[20:01] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[20:01] <Forsakensoul> !non-free packages
[20:01] <noonan> thanks fellas
[20:01] <CruCio> yes i figured that
[20:02] <evan__> !non-free
[20:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about non-free - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:02] <ikonia> azlon: how are we looking ?
[20:02] <azlon> ikonia: its asking me for how many MB i want my graphics card to use... should i do all 256?
[20:02] <mehan> nick HaXiT
[20:02] <Forsakensoul> !skype
[20:02] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[20:02] <ikonia> azlon: just hit enter - don't enter anything
[20:02] <evan__> !restricted packages
[20:02] <HaXiT> i need some help
[20:02] <evan__> !restricted
[20:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:02] <ikonia> HaXiT: ask
[20:02] <luckyshot> hey guys, i want to install ubuntu on an sd card for my asus eeepc, i noticed there a different os's offered on the ubuntu website... which one is best suited for the asus eeepc and is there anything i eed to consider for installation?
[20:02] <azlon> ikonia: use kernel frame buffer?
[20:02] <CruCio> well sooo much for browsing youtube for me
[20:02] <ikonia> azlon: no
[20:02] <_teep_> anybody got any experience with webcams, and qcset in particular? it doesn't seem to store my settings
[20:03] <evan__> where is the source o matic gone/?
[20:03] <rinaldi_> yet ppc version for osx is still on adobe site...
[20:03] <rpj8> Hey guys. I'm trying to compile kazehakase from source and it doesn't get past ./configure
[20:03] <trogdork> whats the best reliable alternative to sendmail, thats super easy to setup? i need a mailserver up literally today
[20:03] <Task> I have lost my sound again and I dont know why,.,,, can anyone help me?
[20:03] <HaXiT> ikonia: When i am at school, i go to my SSH and then after a minute it resets and my apache also resets
[20:03] <rpj8> Anyone have problems compiling that john?
[20:03] <ikonia> rpj8: that's not an ubuntu issue
[20:03] <HaXiT> ikonia: it takes a while to come back
[20:03] <CruCio> why do IBM keeps making their PPC anyways ??
[20:03] <ikonia> rpj8: get support from the vendor
[20:03] <mastercane> hi anybody - while dist-upgrading some machines I get this error: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb
[20:03] <CruCio> they should shut the shit down
[20:03] <ikonia> CruCio: thats a server platform
[20:03] <luckyshot> hey guys, i want to install ubuntu on an sd card for my asus eeepc, i noticed there are different os's offered on the ubuntu website... which one is best suited for the asus eeepc and is there anything i need to consider for installation?
[20:03] <CruCio> know one is buying them
[20:03] <rpj8> ikonia: I apologize, thought I was in #linux
[20:03] <CruCio> yea i know
[20:03] <desertc> Task: >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/156930
[20:03] <ikonia> rpj8: no problem
[20:03] <CruCio> but c'mon
[20:04] <ikonia> CruCio: no you don't know, or you wouldn't keep asking about PPC PC's
[20:04] <mastercane> does naybody know how I can dist-upgrade withot installing this single package?
[20:04] <Link> Ok I need help please
[20:04] <ikonia> mastercane: not a good idea at the moment
[20:04] <ikonia> mastercane: just sit tight
[20:04] <CruCio> actually ikonia
[20:04] <CruCio>  i do
[20:04] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: as far as i know running standard ubuntu is fine
[20:04] <davidam> hi, what's the password of the default ubuntu user?
[20:04] <ikonia> CruCio: then stop asking about it
[20:04] <noonan> ikonia, sources.list has a lot of these comments: "Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:"
[20:04] <rinaldi_> CruCio: you could always use gnash instead...
[20:04] <CruCio> as ps3's can be used for server cluster
[20:04] <CruCio> gnash ?
[20:04] <jf> If unable to download with synaptics, were should I place to files so it can use them directly from the hdd?
[20:04] <CruCio> hmm
[20:04] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: i have a laptop of similar spec, and installed standard ubuntu, then icewm as a window manager as it uses less resources
[20:05] <ikonia> noonan: thats fine
[20:05] <mastercane> ikonia: do you have a source where I can get more information what's going on?
[20:05] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: though it already uses icewm in xandros heh
[20:05] <HaXiT> anyone??
[20:05] <ikonia> mastercane: read the topic in the channel
[20:05] <CruCio> how do i get this gnash you speak of ? ehh human
[20:05] <Pygmymath> kinda...
[20:05] <Link> I did all the right things and burnt ubuntu to a disc and I get part of the way through booting it and it just freezes
[20:05] <rinaldi_> CruCio: yes a flash player, you can use as a plugin in firefox
[20:05] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, what is icewm?
[20:05] <mastercane> ikonia: thanks ;)
[20:05] <ikonia> CruCio: I don't thin kit's in the community repo's
[20:05] <tacone> !cedega
[20:05] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[20:05] <ikonia> rinaldi_: I don't think it's in the PPC community repo's
[20:05] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: do you use ubuntu now?
[20:05] <CeRe88> I can't log in gnome, i get kicked back to gdm.. Anyone can help?
[20:05]  * QuickGold prays to the ubuntu gods for this xserver-xorg fix
[20:05] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, i actually dont
[20:05] <ikonia> azlon: how are we going ?
[20:06] <dabang> CeRe88: any error message?
[20:06] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: righto. icewm is basically a session you log into that handles the drawing of your windows and taskbar
[20:06] <CeRe88> no error message :-(
[20:06] <CruCio> Yes Rinaldi
[20:06] <CruCio> but the problem is that i have a PPC
[20:06] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: think of it as having a windows classic theme instead of fisher-price on xp
[20:06] <azlon> ikonia: its asking me about my monitor... basically asking simple, medium or advanced...
[20:06] <ikonia> azlon: simple
[20:06] <azlon> like monitor size, and crap
[20:06] <luckyshot> lol
[20:06] <azlon> ok, brb
[20:07] <ikonia> azlon: you'll be fine
[20:07] <ikonia> azlon: just make sure you set the resolutions ok
[20:07] <CeRe88> :-( it maybe related to xorg bug?
[20:07] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: i run it and it uses 5 - 20 meg of ram. its not pretty but its hella fast
[20:07] <gmoore> i currently have my ubuntu system plugged into my Dell lcd (1680x1050). i'm going to shut it down and connect it to my projector (1280x720). will Ubuntu read the device EDID info and set the resolution appropriately, or is it going to keep trying to use the initial res of 1680?
[20:07] <davidam> I'm trying to do sudo in a live cd, but I don't know what's the ubuntu user password
[20:07] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, are there any settings i need to consider before i install onto an sd card?
[20:07] <luckyshot> the ditsro
[20:07] <luckyshot> distro*
[20:07] <HaXiT> I need some help please.
[20:07] <dabang> CeRe88: can you login via failsafe session?
[20:07] <azlon> ikonia: ok, finished... ctrl+alt+backspace?
[20:07] <ikonia> gmoore: it will if it outputs the corred EDID
[20:07] <rinaldi_> ikonia: well from what iv read it is sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-gnash CruCio
[20:07] <ikonia> azlon: go for it
[20:07] <CeRe88> dabang: no i can't
[20:08] <ikonia> rinaldi_: on PPC ?
[20:08] <ikonia> rinaldi_: I don't think it actually exists in the PPC repo
[20:08] <CeRe88> dabamg: i have to use the console
[20:08] <CruCio> so , ikonia all of you got a x86 PC right ?
[20:08] <randomwalker> davidam it shouldn't ask you for a password
[20:08] <gmoore> ikonia: my windows pc gets the EDID info ok, so i know it does. good then; if i was going to have to mess with the resolutions i'd want to know in advance before i unplug stuff. thanks.
[20:08] <Link> I need help booting ........I think I broke it
[20:08] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: not really, make sure the eeepc can boot from the sd card though? google will find you at least two walkthroughs for it, which are usually golden. have a look for installing icewm ubuntu 7.10 aswell
[20:08] <mastercane> ikonia: do you know since when the security repository is broken? we have own repositoris for a large number of customers based on the dapper repos plus our own stuff. if they are only broken since today I can deactivate our sync scripts so the customers do not run into problems
[20:08] <ikonia> gmoore: thats a rare tool that gets the right info
[20:08] <dabang> CeRe88: gdm screen choosing "failsafe" - can't login??
[20:08] <rinaldi_> ikonia: on psubuntu.com iv found that it does http://psubuntu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6583&sid=a4dd3adba62f64a67c926ecf1afe3b43
[20:08] <azlon> ikonia: same f'n thing... 800x600
[20:08] <CeRe88> i can't chose failsafe in gdm
[20:08] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, okay will try that for sure
[20:08] <luckyshot> thanks for your help
[20:08] <CeRe88> couse i changed it
[20:08] <ikonia> mastercane: the xorg bug was today
[20:09] <ikonia> rinaldi_: good find
[20:09] <mastercane> ikonia: thank you
[20:09] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: np, eeepc's are cool, i'd like to see one running ubuntu
[20:09] <ikonia> azlon: go back and reconfigure again as before but only select the 1 resolution you want, don't tick all of them
[20:09] <azlon> i did
[20:09] <ikonia> azlon: ooh really
[20:09] <ikonia> azlon: can you please re-paste your xorg
[20:09] <ikonia> xorg.conf sorry
[20:09] <azlon> i only selected 1440x900... thats all i want
[20:09] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, im actually running xp on the ssd i want to dual boot with ubuntu on sd
[20:09] <azlon> k
[20:09] <dabang> CeRe88: Session -> failsafe is not there?
[20:09] <azlon> brb
[20:09] <CeRe88> dabang: no, i don't find it :-(
[20:10] <davidam> randomwalker: thanks, but I am obtaining this  ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo ls
[20:10] <davidam> [sudo] password for ubuntu:
[20:10] <davidam>  
[20:10] <CruCio> so all hope is not lost after all ?
[20:10] <CruCio> if this guy managed to install java on a ps3
[20:10] <dabang> that's weird....
[20:10] <CruCio> then guess i can'
[20:10] <CeRe88> dabang can't find session
[20:10] <dabang> sorry, no idea...
[20:10] <andreas__> hello i have a question
[20:10] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: haha mad, sounds like fun.. that must be a hueg sd card
[20:10] <QuickGold> !ask | andreas__
[20:10] <andreas__> how can i open a password protected rar file in linux?
[20:10] <ubotu> andreas__: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:10] <azlon> ikonia: new xorg.conf: http://paste2.org/p/12093
[20:10] <CeRe88> dabang: any way to change gdm theme via console?
[20:11] <dabang> maybe it's "properties" or something like that?
[20:11] <bruenig> CeRe88, edit the gdm configuration file
[20:11] <andreas__> welldo you have any idea?
[20:11] <robdeman> fols 'Unable to load config info from /usr/lib/ssl/openssl.cnf' ... the file is 0 bytes.. what to do?
[20:11] <bruenig> CeRe88, I don't recall exactly where it is in /etc somewhere, do "dpkg -L gdm | grep etc" to narrow your search
[20:11] <CeRe88> i can only restart, freezee pc etc.. in gdm options
[20:11] <Task> everything is on... nothing is mute... and I still cant get my sound on... is there anyway to reinstall the drivers?
[20:11] <djfm> hi
[20:11] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, its only 4gb
[20:11] <kamba> Hi there... Today I updated the xserver-xorg-core package and my Eclipse stoped working. Anyone here with the same problem?
[20:11] <CeRe88> allright, i'll try to
[20:11] <dabang> /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[20:11] <CruCio> Hey guys
[20:11] <CruCio> Ikonia >
[20:11] <Razor21> kamba: known problem
[20:11] <djfm> do you know how to enable vsync with ati open drivers?
[20:11] <CruCio> ?
[20:12] <CeRe88> and what do i have to change in gdm?
[20:12] <Link> I need help... I try to boot ubuntu and it freezes part of the way through what can I do?
[20:12] <CruCio> how do i install gnash ?
[20:12] <ctalk> I can't install the xserver-xorg-core - says "Forbidden"
[20:12] <profanephobia> andreas__, just double click it to open it with archive manager.. it will ask for the password
[20:12] <TheFool> what command would I use to mount a samba share overtop my existing file system?
[20:12] <profanephobia> ctalk, a fixed is being worked out for that
[20:12] <ctalk> thanks!
[20:12] <Pygmymath> !xbug > ctalk
[20:12] <CeRe88> well i'll try to do something
[20:12] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, have you heard of eeeXubuntu
[20:13] <bert> for some mysterious reason, my freshly installed amd64 ubuntu gutsy isn't automouting USB devices, why ?
[20:13] <CruCio> :)
[20:13] <CruCio> i got gnash
[20:13] <Task> desertc,  ... everything is on and up.. and still no sound...   :(
[20:13] <TheFool> I just want to mix my mounted /bin with my actual /bin etc
[20:13] <CruCio> :D
[20:13] <danonura> i just installed ubuntu and have not dl anything of much size just a few progs, so i should have almost all of 335gb free in my /home but even after empty trash the hd is not as empty as it should be. i opened up gparted and it shows /home at almost half full. i just deleted 160gb of recovered files.
[20:13] <arescorpio> Hi
[20:13] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: once.. not sure whats so eee about it though :P xubuntu is quite nice though i used it on my laptop before icwm
[20:13] <randomwalker> davidam: odd.. sorry, no idea
[20:13] <borbus> Does anyone know how I can get a normal linux boot screen (where it shows all the daemons starting etc.) instead of the ubuntu splash screen?
[20:14] <borbus> Not really sure what to search for..
[20:14] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, ive been doing some readin on it and the only advantage i see using that is all the driver support
[20:14] <bert>  for some mysterious reason, my freshly installed amd64 ubuntu gutsy isn't automouting USB devices, why ?
[20:14] <rinaldi_> CruCio: nice, i might just do it now on mine, didnt think on gnash before i found the link :P
[20:14] <CruCio> just type it in
[20:14] <dabang> borbus: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:14] <CruCio>    sudo apt-get install gnash
[20:14] <Razor21> borbus: remove splash on the boot line in grub
[20:14] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: well thats pretty good. and xubuntu is a good starting point to install anything else you might like, such as kde4 (a bit slow on that hardware) or icewm, fluxbox etc etc etc eakgjzdfghk
[20:15] <bert>  for some mysterious reason, my freshly installed amd64 ubuntu gutsy isn't automouting USB devices, why ?
[20:15] <TheFool> wow this room is full I don't see how anyone can carry on a conversation in this lol
[20:15] <azlon> ikonia: ill brb... i need to smoke before i get much more frustrated
[20:15] <randomwalker> TheFool yeah its the busiest chan on freenode
[20:15] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, yeah
[20:15] <TheFool> what command would I use to mount a samba share overtop my existing file system?
[20:15] <borbus> Oh right.. that simple... what about customising it like using a high resolution etc?
[20:16] <JAL1> borbus, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=340753
[20:16] <borbus> I remember on arch linux I had a high resolution boot screen with an arch graphic
[20:16] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: infact thats probably the best bet. working drivers make everything so lovely heh
[20:16] <alesan> I would like to set the country on my laptop so I can use channels 12 and 13 on wireless
[20:16] <alesan> any idea how to do that>
[20:16] <alesan> ??
[20:16] <JAL1> borbus, for arch you have to add vga=773 in the kernelline
[20:16] <dabang> The Fool: smbmount
[20:16] <borbus> Oh yeah.. that's right
[20:16] <TheFool> so any not so busy channel I could go to for my question, the ##linux channel only has a few people none of which are answering
[20:16] <ctalk> TheFool: trying to add permanently or temproarily an SMB FS?
[20:16] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, exactly... is that a live cd though?
[20:17] <borbus> Does ubuntu have an equivalent?
[20:17] <TheFool> dabang: I know to use smbmount, I don't know how to cause it to overlay the existing system
[20:17] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: most is, lemme google
[20:17] <TheFool> ctalk: whichever is easiest :)
[20:17] <TheFool> ctalk: I would prefer permanent
[20:17] <JAL1> borbus, check out the link i gave you. The answer is there :)
[20:17] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, i would rather have a direct install... isnt that better?
[20:17] <anakin_> Hi, I cannot find murrine gtk engine in repos. I get a an error saying GTK+-2.8 is required to compile murrine. any ideas?
[20:17] <ctalk> TheFool: have you setup an entry for the fs in fstab?
[20:18] <TheFool> not yet, I just mount it manually
[20:18] <borbus> Is it? Just says about removing splash and quiet.
[20:18] <ctalk> and added your UN and PWD in a file owned by root:root?
[20:18] <JAL1> well yea thats what you want didnt you ?
[20:18] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: yeah it is a livecd. you can do a direct install FROM a livecd heh, its the only thing i use them for.. well that and broken boxes
[20:18] <borbus> Or do you have to keep splash?
[20:18] <genii> back
[20:18] <ctalk> TheFool: if you do, you can automount it every time
[20:18] <borbus> Well won't that give me a low resolution like whatever resolution grub is at?
[20:18] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, how do you do direct installs from alive cd?
[20:18] <TheFool> TheFool: didn't see a point in an fstab entry until I can get it where I want it ie overlaying the existing stuff
[20:19] <ader10> et-sdl-sound is not loading. If anybody knows what that is it would be nice if you would help me :)
[20:19] <JAL1> not sure about that
[20:19] <TheFool> ctalk: yea, but I want it to overlay my existing filesystem and I am not sure how to do that one
[20:19] <ctalk> TheFool: when you say "overlay the existing stuff" - I am not following - sorry
[20:19] <danonura> when i do properties on files under filesystem it says amounst the other info volume:unknown. is that the normal?
[20:19] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: when you boot up there'll be a shortcut on the desktop labelled install
[20:19] <borbus> Hmm.. well we'll see next time I reboot.. :P
[20:19] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, i always thought livecds arent installable? there just used to boot into a stripped down distro?
[20:19] <Scottc> when preparing to boot from USB stick, do I use SYSLINUX on the USB drive and then copy the ubuntu installation files over? or the other way around?
[20:19] <genii> adrock358: Getting anywhere with the usb adapter?
[20:19] <TheFool> ctalk: ok I will try to explain, as I am not sure what the correct terminology is
[20:19] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: or at least there is in ubuntu xubuntu
[20:19] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, oh nice!
[20:20] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, and it ill take me through the normal installation procedure?
[20:20] <borbus> Another question that I'm not really sure what to search for... can you change the resolution of the other ttys, ie. ctrl-alt-F1 etc?
[20:20] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: basically so :)
[20:20] <lime4x4> anyone here good with wireless cards?
[20:20] <TheFool> ctalk: basically my mount has an etc and a bin folder with a bunch of stuff in it. When I mount it I want the stuff in the mounted etc and bin folder to be merged with the stuff in my filesystems /etc and /bin folder
[20:20] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: last time i ran a livecd i installed a usb modem manager to get internet and surfed on the livecd whilst watching the bar go across :P
[20:20] <profanephobia> lime4x4, simply ask your question its much faster
[20:21] <rinaldi_> !anyone | lime4x4
[20:21]  * QuickGold wonders where the xorg fix is
[20:21] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, thats awesome
[20:21] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: try sticking the livecd in a main pc to play around, see if you like it first :P
[20:21] <azlon> ikonia: ok, im back
[20:21] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, definitely!
[20:21] <ubotu> lime4x4: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[20:21] <azlon> is there a way to revert to my setting as of 1500?
[20:21] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, where can i download eeeXubuntu?
[20:21] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: and remember that eeexubuntu is probably very new with some bugs to iron out heh
[20:22] <luckyshot> yeah thats true
[20:22] <lime4x4> i install ndiswrapper,ndisgtk for a linksys wmp300n now when i reboot the computer it hangs at 98%. In recovery mode i can ping the router. It's a fresh install of gusty
[20:22] <TheFool> ctalk: do you understand?
[20:22] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: with anything linux google is your best friend, you can find guides / installers /pictures / downloadable wives for almost anything
[20:22] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: especially something as popular as the eee :P
[20:22]  * QuickGold loves downloadable wives
[20:23] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, yeah i agree but it seems liek its not ont he official ubuntu website?
[20:23]  * randomwalker prefers streaming wives
[20:23] <Pygmymath> randomwalker: not when the stream cant keep up with you :<
[20:23] <ctalk> TheFool: was trying to chat privately - but don't think that will happen - that's asking sambe to make two filesystems one on two different mount points
[20:23] <PyChild> Does anybody has problems updating xserver?
[20:23] <Pygmymath> randomwalker: doesnt download the recipies fast enough :<
[20:23] <demon_spork> I do, PyChild
[20:23] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: i dont think its supported by ubuntu as a whole, its a fan made version of ubuntu
[20:23] <demon_spork> and so doe some friends of mine I am talking to right now
[20:24] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: though it is still ubuntu, so will get all the usual updates, it just has the added drivers like you said
[20:24] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, ooh makes sense
[20:24] <PyChild> demon_spork, does it talls you that you can't download the package?
[20:24] <demon_spork> yep
[20:24] <ctalk> TheFool: mount points tell the kernel what files are, where they are located etc. and Samba won't merge files like that AFAIK
[20:24] <PyChild> demon_spork, any word from the ups?
[20:24] <jqk> !install
[20:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[20:24] <rinaldi_> lime4x4: did the wireless card work properly when you were in recovery mode?
[20:25] <demon_spork> PyChild: I was typing a question right when you asked it
[20:25] <Pygmymath> luckyshot: think of it as a xp disk with only the drivers for your pc on it. its xp.. just for a specific purpose, so m$ wouldn't sing about it heh
[20:25] <CruCio> urs is ur username right ?
[20:25] <CruCio> just to be sure ?
[20:25] <CruCio> usr*
[20:25] <robthenoob> Pychild: My xserver update wont install either
[20:25] <comicinker> can I use a specific port when I access ftp files via nautilus?
[20:25] <TheFool> ctalk: from what I was told it is possible, if samba won't mount it like that afayk then how would I go about achieving the same affect with symlinks?
[20:25] <luckyshot> Pygmymath, makes sense
[20:25] <demon_spork> where would I go to find someone who can fix a file permissions problem in the repository?
[20:25] <lime4x4> Rinaldi yes i can ping my router
[20:26] <PyChild> Do you think it was accidental?
[20:26] <PyChild> maybe the update is borked
[20:26] <crush_groove>  How do I use the sync command ..
[20:26] <PyChild> and they are blocking it
[20:26] <lime4x4> i didn't add a network key cause my router only excepts connection from a list of mac addresses
[20:27] <demon_spork> PyChild: they would have just removed the update rather than just stop people from DLing it
[20:27] <gwj002> exit
[20:27] <PyChild> demon_spork, true
[20:27] <TheFool> lime4x4: thats a really bad idea, it is pretty simple to spoof a MAC address
[20:27] <rinaldi_> lime4x4: have you tried removing the card to see if it loads normally without it first?
[20:28] <lime4x4> i know about the secruty issue i was going to change that after i had everything up and running and i knew i could connect
[20:28] <ctalk> TheFool: I am not sure - I am not aware of mounting two drives into one filesystem dynamically for the /etc/ and /bin directories though Samba, nor am I sure what would be the point of doing that. What is it that this would give you?
[20:28] <Forsakensoul> can someone tell me how can i delete something from the usr dir
[20:28] <robthenoob> sudo
[20:28] <ikonia> azlon: apologies I had to leave my desk for a minute
[20:28] <PyChild> demon_spork,  it's been like this since when? this morning?
[20:28] <lime4x4> I haven't removed the card i did put a # in front of ndiswrapper in /etc/modules
[20:28] <patogen> How do I check if I'm affected by the hard drive failure bug?
[20:28] <CeRe88> anyone can help me in private?
[20:28] <genii> crush_groove: If you are meaning to sync the had drives before removing or ejecting, just normally: sync
[20:28] <ikonia> CeRe88: what is your question
[20:28] <Forsakensoul> robthenoob but what was the command for delete
[20:28] <azlon> ikonia: its all good
[20:29] <demon_spork> PyChild, I just tried to update about an hour ago, I don't know how long before that it has been out
[20:29] <ikonia> Forsakensoul: sudo rm /usr/bin/$file
[20:29] <CeRe88> ikonia: i can't login in gnome
[20:29] <ikonia> CeRe88: what happens
[20:29] <robthenoob> forsakensoul - sudo rm for a file
[20:29] <partypants> I need help getting my wacom tablet to work properly.
[20:29] <CeRe88> ikonia: i get back in gdm login in few seconds
[20:29] <robthenoob> forsakensoul - sudo rmdir for a directory
[20:29] <ikonia> CeRe88: boot in safe mode and check /var/log/gdm.log
[20:30] <PyChild> demon_spork, I tried to at 9:30 this morning and failed, well if you haven't reported it on the forums i will
[20:30] <lime4x4> and i used ndisgtk to install the windows .inf file
[20:30] <PyChild> and off i go
[20:30] <demon_spork> ok
[20:30] <comicinker> help: can I use a specific port when I access ftp files via nautilus?
[20:30] <demon_spork> I haven't
[20:30] <Pygmymath> partypants: whats up with it? i use a tablet pc
[20:30] <TheFool> well I have a file system with very limited space approximately 4mbs...everything runs fine, but I would like to install larger applications that I generally do not use to a drive on a local computer instead of my embedded device. That is simple enough to configure in ipkg (similar to apt-get) but a lot of code breaks when it is trying to refer to dependencies by a relative path. So I need to be able to execute these installed apps
[20:30] <TheFool> as if they were in the locations they would normally be in
[20:30] <arag0rn> hi
[20:30] <rinaldi_> lime4x4: someone before was having problems with this particular card and ndiswrapper with no luck. not really sure what i would do. perhaps #ndiswrapper if there is anyone in there...
[20:30] <CeRe88> ikonia: allright.. maybe you have a solution anyway.. this problem it may be related with xorg bug?
[20:31] <ikonia> CeRe88: probably not, but possible
[20:31] <arag0rn> earlier ubuntu allowed to X sessions for the same user..now it doesnt..any idea how to turn it back on ?
[20:31] <arag0rn> oops ..earlier ubuntu allowed 2 X sessions for the same user..now it doesnt..any idea how to turn it back on ?
[20:31] <lime4x4> okay thanks
[20:31] <partypants> Pygmymath: It is a drawing tablet, not a tablet pc. It comes with a pen and connects via usb.
[20:31] <Pygmymath> partypants: same kind of device though, my tablet uses wacom. whats up with it?
[20:31] <CeRe88> ikonia: couse it happens today for the first time.. I'm using ubuntu with gnome with no problems for 3 months
[20:32] <lime4x4> just odd that it works in recovery mode thru a terminal
[20:32] <robdeman> I tried to setup https according the Ubuntu how-to. But my access log shows: '[18/Jan/2008:22:28:51 +0200] "\x16\x03\x01" 200 782 "-" "-"'.. and Firefox says the server sent an unexpected message
[20:32] <Dark_Alex> helloo
[20:32] <partypants> So far I plugged it in, and I can use it like a mouse, but I want to enable it to be used in GIMP with pressure sensitivity.
[20:32] <ctalk> TheFool: OK - I'd suggest someone else as the best expert then, I haven't played around with JEOS version of Ubuntu a'tall
[20:32] <CeRe88> allright anyway, I check that log.. rebooting in ubuntu, later
[20:32] <rinaldi_> lime4x4: also you may want to try just installing it through the commands, the ndisgtk didnt work for me at all
[20:32] <Pygmymath> partypants: ah. not got a clue on pressure sensitivity im afraid, never tried to get mine working
[20:33] <lime4x4> ok
[20:33] <partypants> I think I may need a driver or something.
[20:33] <Pygmymath> partypants: bit of google cant hurt though
[20:33] <CruCio> ahahahahaah!!
[20:33] <azlon> ikonia: what do i need to do now?
[20:33] <CruCio> i got java !!
[20:33] <CruCio> omg!
[20:33] <ctalk> partypants: there is a great website for Wacom on Linux that has a lot of info on it,,,
[20:33] <CruCio> Math
[20:33] <CruCio> i got it !
[20:33] <partypants> what website?
[20:33] <ctalk> partypants; hold one...
[20:33] <partypants> ctalk: no problem
[20:34] <CruCio> damn this took forever !!
[20:34] <CruCio> like a day !!
[20:34] <RolandD> Hey guys, I am playing with sed to update several files at once. How do I write the replacement directly to the file?
[20:34] <RolandD> I have this now: sed 's/find/replace/g' *.php
[20:34] <RolandD> this has standard output to screen
[20:34] <Pygmymath> partypants: google wacom pressure sensitivity linux have a look at the top link the forum one
[20:35] <RolandD> instead of updating the file
[20:35] <ctalk> partypants: linuxwacom.sourceforge.net
[20:35] <Forsakensoul> can someone help me instal xgl
[20:35] <TheFool> ctalk: alright, thanks though. btw I am definitely not using jeos...it is FAR too large. I just came here because it is a general linux question with a specific application and the ubuntu folks are really good at helping people out
[20:35] <rinaldi_> CruCio: was this for your ps3 setup?
[20:35] <partypants> Will do
[20:35] <CruCio> Yes
[20:35] <Forsakensoul> can someone help me instal xgl
[20:36] <CruCio> but u would need the ubuntu 7.10 gutsy gibbon CD
[20:36] <CruCio> for installation to perpetuate
[20:36] <ctalk> well - back to work - thanks all - more tickets coming in for me...
[20:36] <evan__> how to edit ubuntu menu colors ( not menu bars but the menu )
[20:36] <evan__> ?
[20:36] <CruCio> sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2 libstdc++5 java-package
[20:37] <CruCio> rinaldi
[20:37] <rinaldi_> CruCio: ah ok thanks, i was looking at the psubuntu howto but gave up.:-D
[20:38] <markl_> ok i have postgres 8.2.4, are there slony rpm's that I can install?
[20:38] <Scottc> Has anyone here installed ubuntu using a USB stick?
[20:38] <CruCio>  Rinaldi_
[20:38] <CeRe> ikonia still here?
[20:38] <Pygmymath> evan__: system > preferences > main menu
[20:38] <Scottc> i'm not really certain of what I need to do with syslinux to the USB stick
[20:38] <CruCio> http://jajuk.info/index.php/PS3_installation_Guide
[20:38] <CruCio> :)
[20:38] <CruCio> now all i need is to get flash working
[20:39] <CruCio> you got flash on ur ps3 rinaldi_ ?
[20:39] <riddlebox> can someone help me get my nvidia card working in gutsy, it was working fine in feisty then I upgraded to gutsy and now everytime I boot it says it is running in low graphics mode?
[20:39] <pyrops> hey
[20:40] <arag0rn> earlier ubuntu allowed 2 X sessions for the same user..now it doesnt..any idea how to turn it back on ?
[20:40] <Pygmymath> night all!
[20:40] <Pygmymath> enjoy your linux
[20:40] <Task> ok... I got my sound working ... I had top disable my onboard sound since I have Sound Blaster Card... but I cant get the mic working for nothing!!!  Can Anyone suggest or help? I did the alsamixer... and all capture devices are max and the sound selector is ALSA with Sound capture also on ALSA
[20:40] <pyrops> how can i find my root password??
[20:40] <CruCio> Pygymymath
[20:40] <CruCio> am installing java
[20:40] <riddlebox> pyrops, is this the first time you ran ubuntu?
[20:40] <CruCio> and the eterm prompts for my bubuntu CD
[20:40] <Forsakensoul> riddlebox System>Administration>Restricted Drivers Manager
[20:40] <CruCio> is it nessecary ?
[20:40] <evan__> Pygmymath:  i can not edit colors
[20:40] <Pygmymath> CruCio: shouldn't do
[20:40] <stefg> riddlebox: what model is that, and what driver were/are you using ?
[20:40] <evan__> Pygmymath:  how can i do that?
[20:41] <Pygmymath> CruCio: but might need non installed stuff from the cd or internet
[20:41] <Starnestommy> I'm getting an HTTP 403 when I try to update xserver-xorg-core
[20:41] <Pygmymath> CruCio: try it :)
[20:41] <pyrops> riddlebox:  nope, i just forgot what is
[20:41] <myidiym> is there a way to find out when the security repository is fixed?  ...like a mailing list I should subscribe to or an RSS feed?
[20:41] <pyrops> its been awhile
[20:41] <riddlebox> Forsakensoul, I have run through so many times, no matter what it defaults back to the low graphics mode
[20:41] <CruCio> i should try with the CD ?
[20:41] <Pygmymath> evan__: system preferences appearance ?
[20:41] <CeRe> anyone  can help me? :-(
[20:41] <riddlebox> pyrops, it is whatever your users password is, and you must use sudo
[20:41] <CeRe> i can't use gnome since this afternoon
[20:41] <CruCio> 'Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release powerpc+ps3 (20071016)
[20:42] <Pygmymath> evan__: the selected item determines the colour of the highlight on the menu, and the other colours also affect the menu
[20:42] <rinaldi_> CruCio: well the best you can get is gnash at the moment sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-gnash i think. havnt used my ps3 for ages so can't remember
[20:42] <Forsakensoul> can someone help me install xgl
[20:42] <Forsakensoul> i tried from the support page but no luck
[20:42] <Pygmymath> Forsakensoul: sudo apt-get install xg <hit tab lots here>
[20:42] <CruCio> gnash works wirh youtube ?
[20:42] <CruCio> with*
[20:42] <stefg> !compiz | forsak
[20:42] <ubotu> forsak: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[20:42] <stefg> !compiz | Forsakensoul
[20:42] <ubotu> Forsakensoul: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[20:42] <Starnestommy> CruCio: it works fine for me
[20:42] <azlon> anybody here have an nvidia geforce 7 series?
[20:42] <rinaldi_> CruCio: it can be a bit buggy but it works well enough
[20:42] <evan__> Pygmymath:  i cant find it??
[20:43] <pyrops> riddlebox: howabout gettin my wireless key back? lost the original
[20:43] <stefg> !anyone
[20:43] <evan__> Pygmymath:  im in there but i mean the menu props
[20:43] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[20:43] <Forsakensoul> stefg i tried from there no luck
[20:43] <riddlebox> pyrops, you must get that from the router
[20:43] <Pygmymath> evan__: customise one of the themes, the menu uses the same colours as the other windows
[20:43] <patogen> I can't find any good information about real time kernel ... I want to know if it's worth trying it
[20:43] <CeRe> I can't use Gnome.. When I log i get kicked back to login screen.. Anyone can Help?
[20:44] <stefg> Forsakensoul: i wanted to point you to #compiz-fusion, as that would be the right channel to ask for help in your case
[20:44] <Forsakensoul> Pygmymath cant find pacage
[20:44] <CeRe> It may be related to xorg bug?
[20:44] <pyrops> riddlebox:  its not there.
[20:44] <Forsakensoul> stefg ok 10x
[20:44] <CruCio> k
[20:44] <CruCio> brb
[20:44] <bert> sorry, does anybody know why ubuntu isn't giving me the option to configure a second monitor in the screens and graphics emnu ?
[20:44] <Pygmymath> Forsakensoul: aye i canty either, there is one though.. gimme a mo
[20:44] <CruCio> damn this is alotta help
[20:44] <CruCio> unlike those douchebags at irc.malloc.us
[20:44] <Starnestommy> CeRe: try sudo aptitude reinstall gnome?
[20:44] <pyrops> and how about: are the ATIx1600mobile drivers made to work?
[20:44] <pyrops> properly
[20:44] <NoranRad> hi! does anybody here have experience with a vaio sz61? a have some trouble with the battery, couldnt find anything on the net
[20:44] <Navlop> wgat is the cmd to d/l a file from a website
[20:44] <Task> ok... I got my sound working ... I had top disable my onboard sound since I have Sound Blaster Card... but I cant get the mic working for nothing!!!  Can Anyone suggest or help? I did the alsamixer... and all capture devices are max and the sound selector is ALSA with Sound capture also on ALSA
[20:45] <CarlFK> un0p: so i think the script works, but I would like to test it, but purge didn't - http://dpaste.com/31595/ (pretty much scroll to the bottom ERROR: database "mydb" already exists
[20:45] <CeRe> Star: what may I lose reinstalling gnome?
[20:45] <Navlop> what is the cmd to d/l a file from a website
[20:45] <Pygmymath> Forsakensoul: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[20:45] <Pygmymath> + dependencies
[20:45] <stefg> Task: model ?
[20:45] <bert>  sorry, does anybody know why ubuntu isn't giving me the option to configure a second monitor in the screens and graphics menu ?
[20:45] <jjg1> CeRe: you shouldn't lose anything as long as you don't do a complete uninstall
[20:45] <Navlop> Tried that but the sowftare is not on the ubuntu server
[20:45] <Pygmymath> and NOW i leave :)
[20:45] <Task> Ummm 1 sec...
[20:46] <jjg1> your config files should stay under your /home directory, unless I'm mistaken
[20:46] <CeRe> jjg1: allright
[20:46] <Navlop> trying to d/l ispconfig
[20:46] <stefg> Task: aplay -l
[20:46] <Forsakensoul> Pygmymath i`ve done that .. but when i log out there is no xgl in the sessions
[20:46] <annoia> Firefox in 8.04 (alpha) is supposed to be 2.0.0.11?
[20:46] <annoia> Or is it just because I did an upgrade?
[20:47] <stefg> !hardy | annoia
[20:47] <ubotu> annoia: hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:47] <Task> I have 0-3 for that that says this
[20:47] <annoia> stefg - Ooh, thanks
[20:47] <Task> card 0: CA0106 [CA0106], device 0: ca0106 [CA0106]
[20:47] <Task>   Subdevices: 1/1
[20:47] <Task>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[20:47] <ferric84> I'm trying to install fglrx drivers for my ATI Radeon, and all the tutorials have me run commands that alter my /etc/X11/xorg.conf - however, this file doesn't even exist.  will harm be done by finding a template online and using that?
[20:48] <Task> stefg, I should set CA0106 for the capture?
[20:48] <CeRe> well it says "Gnome is not installed, and so you can't reinstall it"
[20:48] <CeRe> but i have gnome lol, i never unistalled it
[20:48] <spanther> CeRe, i do have KDE now :>
[20:48] <nintendonerd282> Ok i plugged my creative zen vision M into the computer, and the hardware information shows it there, but it wont dock. can anyone help me
[20:48] <myidiym> this room opens with the status report of "and the Security repository is currently broken, stay tuned for a fix"... what is the most efficient way to "stay tuned"... I assume there is an RSS feed that would announce fixes like this but so far I haven't found it.  Any ideas where to monitor for status of this open issue?
[20:48] <LjL> CeRe: the package "gnome" is a metapackage that is not installed by default
[20:48] <stefg> Task: no, i just wanted to know if it might be intel hd-audio (which has known issues)
[20:49] <DRebellion> myidiym: actually it just got fixed :P
[20:49] <myidiym> DRebellion: sweet!
[20:49] <DRebellion> heh
[20:49] <stefg> Task: so that's an audigy se ?
[20:49] <CeRe> allright, i have this problem: When i log into gnome with GDM i get kicked back to GDM
[20:49] <Ademan> is anyone getting a 403 error running the update manager right now?
[20:50] <DRebellion> Ademan: you shouldn't bbe anymore. it was just resolved
[20:50] <Starnestommy> Ademan: I got one for xserver-xorg-core, I think
[20:50] <alison> hey, I have installed "secure delete". How can i possibly secure-delete my Trash Bin?
[20:50] <spanther> !xbug > Ademan
[20:50] <bert> Bon ter waarde van 10.00€
[20:50] <bert> voor de aankoop van schoenen
[20:50] <bert> Af te halen bij Bert.
[20:50] <myidiym> umm... I still get this error "W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.2.0-3ubuntu8.1_i386.deb
[20:50] <myidiym>   403 Forbidden"
[20:50] <nintendonerd282> does ubuntu automatically detect Mp3/Video players?
[20:50] <jjg1> yeah Ademan, there's some packs out for kde (I believe) that have some bugs
[20:50] <Task> yeh
[20:50] <CeRe> anyone can help? Gnome worked right for 3 months, what's wrong now?
[20:50] <Ademan> ah cool thanks guys
[20:50] <jjg1> they forbid connections to keep people from getting the buggy update
[20:50] <spanther> !xbug | myidiym
[20:50] <ubotu> myidiym: A recent security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. The broken X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, which is why you got "403 Forbidden" errors. It should be fixed now.
[20:50] <jjg1> it should be fixed soon
[20:50] <evan__> Pygmymath:  it works indeed ! ty do you know how i edit the opacity of my apps im running compiz fusion?
[20:50] <jjg1> ceRe, I'm working on it, hold on
[20:50] <stefg> !doesn't work | CeRe
[20:50] <ubotu> CeRe: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[20:51] <Scottc> how can I get a USB stick to show up in my bios so I can select it as the boot device?
[20:51] <alison> hey, I have installed "secure delete". How can i possibly secure-delete my Trash Bin?
[20:51] <CeRe> thanks :-)
[20:51] <LjL> !xbug | jjg1, Ademan, i was able to obtain a new update from Security, where the changelog claims the problem is fixed
[20:51] <ubotu> jjg1, Ademan, i was able to obtain a new update from Security, where the changelog claims the problem is fixed: A recent security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. The broken X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, which is why you got "403 Forbidden" errors. It should be fixed now.
[20:51] <alison> !info secure delete
[20:51] <ubotu> Package secure does not exist in gutsy
[20:51] <rinaldi_> nintendonerd282: well it depends if it detects it as a storage device
[20:51] <myidiym> ubotu: thanks for the update... I keep getting the error so I guess I'll reboot and check again later.  Thanks.
[20:51] <Task> stefg,  Yeah its a Sound Blaster Audigy
[20:52] <Ademan> myidiym: just hit "check" in the update manager i think
[20:52] <stefg> Scottc: that's not something that relates to ubuntu... bios quetions are best solved by reading the motherboard manual
[20:52] <CeRe> well stefg, my problem is that I can't use gnome: when i log in i get kicked back to log in manager
[20:52] <DRebellion> !bot | myidiym
[20:52] <ubotu> myidiym: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[20:52] <Scottc> stefg: Sure it does
[20:52] <nintendonerd282> oh wait in rythmbox do i have to select the mtp player in plugins?
[20:52] <Scottc> i'm trying to install ubuntu from a usb drive
[20:52] <Ademan> myidiym: yeah i just ran "check" in the update manager and it fixed the error
[20:52] <Scottc> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:52] <jjg1> scottc, can you tell us what model your motherboard is?
[20:52] <jjg1> only some mobos support booting from a usb stick
[20:52] <Scottc> its an Intel D845PEBT2
[20:53] <stefg> Scottc: bios is bios ... not ubuntu. ubuntu does not even run in hat early stage of the boot process, so there's nothing to be done by the OS, that's completly a bios question
[20:53] <rinaldi_> nintendonerd282: well i know that amarok detects ipods and synchs well
[20:53] <jjg1> ok, looks like you need a bios update before you can do that scottc
[20:53] <nintendonerd282> oh nvm it detected it
[20:53] <nintendonerd282> thanks
[20:54] <jjg1> try searching that model on free-driver-download.com
[20:54] <Task> stefg,  any suggestions?
[20:54] <Scottc> if I https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick < whats SYSLINUX supposed to do?
[20:54] <electrofreak_> Does anyone know what thie leetspeak word could say?: |-|3|_|D!|\|9
[20:54] <myidiym> Ademan: THANKS!  All I had to do is re-"Check" and it is now downloading the fix.  Thanks!  Today is day 1 for me with Linux, if that wasn't already obvious :(
[20:54] <kbrooks> i have  a hal problem, at bootup it starts hal AND THEN dbus
[20:55] <stefg> CeRe: try adding a new user (' sudo adduser <username>' from the cli). and check if that user got the same problem.
[20:55] <alison> what apps do you guys use for MSN? aMSN or Pidgin?
[20:55] <brandon> hello can someone help me
[20:55] <froek> alison: pidgin
[20:55] <CeRe> allright
[20:55] <CeRe> i try now
[20:55] <kbrooks> alison, amsn is used too
[20:55] <DRebellion> i can confirm that 'sudo apt-get upgrade' successfully downloads xserver-xorg-core
[20:55] <white_eagle> can i somehow make "fresh" my "unfresh" install of gutsy by reverting EVERYTHING to default?
[20:55] <alison> I tried aMSN i like it :)
[20:55] <Ademan> myidiym: no problem, glad i could help
[20:55] <jjg1> CeRe, if we could get a look at your ~/.xsession-errors it would help a bit too
[20:55] <alison> DRebellion: i cannot get xserver-org-core :(
[20:56] <alison> i tried, but i get an error
[20:56] <DRebellion> alison: try sudo apt-get update first
[20:56] <alison> i used sudo apt-get upgrade and Synaptic package manager, but no success
[20:56] <Starnestommy> alison: I think there's a problem with the repository webservers
[20:56] <Starnestommy> I'm having the same problem trying to update it
[20:56] <tdn> How do I get the Helvetica font in Ubuntu?
[20:56] <alison> i agree there is a problem with the webserver
[20:57] <DRebellion> i'm using the gb sources
[20:57] <brandon> i am having that problem i have trying to update my system aswell im using a old ass version of ubuntu
[20:57] <jjg1> Alison, the server is fine, but the package breaks some java runtime stuff, so they are blocking downloads for a bit
[20:57] <tuitu> oi
[20:57] <Freddy2> hello
[20:57] <jjg1> it'll be fixed soon
[20:57] <tuitu> alguem poderia me dar um suporte?
[20:57] <stefg> Task: http://www.stchman.com/mult_sound.html might help
[20:57] <tuitu> i'm sorry
[20:57] <tuitu> i speach english
[20:57] <alison> ok thanks jjgl
[20:57] <CeRe> stefg: i added new user but it doesn't change nothink
[20:57] <white_eagle> can i somehow make "fresh" my "unfresh" install of gutsy by reverting EVERYTHING to default?
[20:57] <tuitu> my ubuntu have a hard problem
[20:58] <alison> is flash fixed for ubuntu yet?
[20:58] <tuitu> with nautilus
[20:58] <tuitu> somebody can help me?
[20:58] <DRebellion> !flash | alison
[20:58] <ubotu> alison: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[20:58] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[20:58] <brandon> any time someones free i could use some help when your done with someone else
[20:58] <stefg> CeRe: so you tried to login as teh new user, not as your usual one, right?
[20:58] <CeRe> yep
[20:58] <jjg1> tuitu, we'll try to help.. what's your problem?
[20:59] <CeRe> nothing change, i get kicked back to login manager
[20:59] <Forsakensoul> to install beryl do i need compiz ?
[20:59] <brandon> jjgl i installed a old version of ubuntu how can i update this version to the newer one because i tried installing it from cd but it didnt work
[20:59] <jjg1> CeRe, from your gdm screen hit ctrl alt f2, then try tail -20 ~/.xsession-errors
[21:00] <rinaldi_> Forsakensoul: i thought beryl didnt exist in ubuntu... thought it merged with compiz?
[21:00] <CeRe> did it jjg1
[21:00] <jjg1> brandon: can you be a little more specific than it didn't work?
[21:00] <viking> howcome when I do sudo ./configure && make && make install it still tells me it can't create a directory because I don't have permission?
[21:00] <brandon> og
[21:00] <jjg1> CeRe: any output?
[21:00] <brandon> oh it was just slow and i couldnt double click the install icon to install
[21:01] <brandon> this computer blows btw 256 mb ram
[21:01] <demon_spork> Forsakensoul: Compiz-fusion is what is used in Ubuntu. The Beryl project merged with Compiz to form Compiz--fusion
[21:01] <Forsakensoul> beryl on 7.10 ?
[21:01] <jjg1> that's probably because you have a slow cd drive or not enough ram
[21:01] <CeRe> yes: nautilus: fatal IO error 104 on X server
[21:01] <white_eagle> can i somehow make "fresh" my "unfresh" install of gutsy by reverting EVERYTHING to default?
[21:01] <jjg1> try getting through the install, then it should be faster
[21:01] <Forsakensoul> ok
[21:01] <brandon> it wont even load up the install
[21:01] <jjg1> CeRe, ok, now we're getting somewhere, let me see if I can find a fix
[21:01] <alison> does ubuntu suport windows media player file extention?
[21:01] <brandon> cant i upgrade from a terminal
[21:01] <brandon> or something
[21:01] <demon_spork> Forsakensoul: on 7.10, compiz-fusion is alreayd installed
[21:01] <CeRe> er g2g afk
[21:01] <CeRe> later :-(
[21:01] <tago> Hi everyone. Could anyone help me please? Here's my problem: I have recently installed Ubuntu, but I can't load it for the first time. It hangs either at "Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20" if I disconnect my external HD, or at some "Attached scsi generic.." if I don't.
[21:02] <stefg> CeRe: ok, what other details can you tell? you try to login, then happens something and you're brought back to gdm's login screen ?
[21:02] <beth> i need help setting up a new canon printer, i plugged in the usb cable and ubuntu hasn't noticed me about anything new being added...
[21:02] <tuitu> somebody help me please?
[21:02] <erider> is it possible to upgrade ubuntu 6.06 without reloading the whole OS
[21:02] <jjg1> tuitu, please post your problem, and we'll try to help
[21:02] <jjg1> beth, can we get the model number of your printer?
[21:02] <stefg> !printer | beth
[21:02] <ubotu> beth: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[21:03] <alison> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree what does the -nonfree represent?
[21:03] <tuitu> my nautilus don't send to me permission to open my pasts in desktop
[21:03] <PriceChild> alison, free as in freedom. not price
[21:03] <tacone> alison: they are not free as speech
[21:03] <alison> oh
[21:03] <stefg> alison: that flash is not opensource .. it's beer-free, not speech-free
[21:03] <tuitu> and i put to open a past or archive and show a white dialog
[21:03] <rinaldi_> alison: not opensource
[21:03] <alison> okay! thanks :)
[21:04] <gaw> Hi
[21:04] <chithetank_> could someone help me plz?
[21:04] <jjg1> sure chit, that's why we're here ;)
[21:04] <gaw> i have a little problem during installation of ubuntu 7.04
[21:04] <jjg1> what's your problem?
[21:04] <tago> Please excuse the repetition.. Could someone help me please? Here's my problem: I have recently installed Ubuntu, but I can't load it for the first time. It hangs either at "Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20" if I disconnect my external HD, or at some "Attached scsi generic.." if I don't.
[21:05] <chithetank_> i installed teamspeka on my ubuntu via package but when i start it ...
[21:05] <QuickGold> Why does the Screen Resolution option only show 800x600 & 640x480.  How can I get larger resolution options?
[21:05] <tuitu> do you read me ?
[21:05] <chithetank_> *teamspeak
[21:05] <PriceChild> tuitu, yes
[21:05] <chithetank_> it just closes after 2 seconds
[21:05] <tuitu> how i finish my problem ?
[21:05] <Starnestommy> chithetank_: try starting it from a terminal
[21:05] <jjg1> chitthetank, run the app from a terminal
[21:05] <jjg1> er, yeah, what he said :P
[21:06] <dennewan> irc.rezirc.net
[21:06] <viking> howcome when I do sudo ./configure && make && make install it still tells me it can't create a directory because I don't have permission?
[21:06] <jjg1> tuitu:  do you mean pastes?  I'm still not sure what exactly your problem is
[21:06] <PriceChild> viking, because the sudo only counts for the first bit before the &&
[21:06] <Starnestommy> viking: run make install as sudo make install
[21:06] <chithetank_> it may sound not inteligent but i got linux only since 1 day so what should i type in hte terminal run teamspeak ?
[21:06] <jjg1> viking:  you need to run each command under sudo
[21:06] <viking> ok thanks guys :)
[21:06] <PriceChild> jjg1, please don't advise that
[21:06] <erUSUL> viking: ./configure && make && sudo make install
[21:06] <Starnestommy> chithetank_: just "teamspeak"
[21:07] <PriceChild> viking, I suggest only using sudo for the make install, and please use packages from ubuntu if availiable
[21:07] <tago> I don't want to sound impatient, but does anyone here read me?
[21:07] <alison> how come my flash player on youtube is not fully displayed?
[21:07] <erUSUL> viking: only the last command needs sudo
[21:07] <jjg1> sorry Price :/
[21:07] <QuickGold> Why does the Screen Resolution option only show 800x600 & 640x480.  How can I get larger resolution options?
[21:07] <chithetank_> "floating point exception (core dumped) apears..
[21:07] <alison> its only 90%
[21:07] <PriceChild> tago, yes
[21:07] <gaw> during installation, i have a display problem. black and white lines. I can't see the ubuntu's desk
[21:07] <brandon> i have the same question as QuickGold
[21:07] <erUSUL> viking: doing compilations under root is dangerous
[21:07] <tago> ok thanks..
[21:07] <alison> and its super slow
[21:07] <viking> thanks jjgl, erUSUL, Starnestommy and PriceChild :) Thanks a million
[21:07] <tago> then I assume that nobody can help me..
[21:07] <rinaldi_> alison: how did you install flash player?
[21:07] <alison> i think i did sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:07] <Starnestommy> chithetank_: looks like a bug with teamspeak
[21:08] <JinRoh> hey!
[21:08] <alison> or i might of checked my Synaptic package manager and installed that way
[21:08] <jjg1> chitthetank_: try a google search of the error and see if there's a fix
[21:08] <chithetank_> @star any ideads? i already reinstalled it didnt helped..
[21:08] <stefg> tago: you might have acpi or irq issuses that need boot parameters to be solved
[21:08] <alison> rinaldi_ why?
[21:08] <stefg> !bootoptions | tago
[21:08] <ubotu> tago: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:08] <Starnestommy> chithetank_: check support on http://www.teamspeak.com/ ?
[21:08] <rinaldi_> alison: the flash plugin is broken. go to the adobe site and follow the instructions on the linux download page
 hi my friend
[21:09] <alison> ok
 my problem is with nautilus
 he sucks. don't send to me permission to open my archives in desktop
 automactily
 hi my friend
[21:09] <alison> thanks
[21:09] <FloodBot1> tuitu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:09] <Scottc> ok well i've set the USB drive which I put the Ubuntu install files on as the device to boot from, however windows is loaded anyway.
[21:09] <JinRoh> I need some help. I have troubles starting Ubuntu cd. (It says something about APIC, I have to run it adding "noapic"). Then in the system the ubuntu time is always one hour behind system/windows time. If I change ubuntu time to the correct time it also adds 1 hour to windows (so it's not possible to have them all at the same time) It has something to do with APIC??
[21:09] <JinRoh> Please help :P
[21:09] <tuitu> help me please
[21:09] <Scottc> I think I did something wrong with syslinux
[21:09] <Scottc> also help me too... haha.
[21:09] <rinaldi_> alison: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[21:09] <JinRoh> no!! mee
[21:09] <JinRoh> :D
[21:09] <Allsaal> Hi... I would like to know, if its possible to get Adobe Acrobat 3D for MAC..?
[21:09] <JinRoh> Allsaal:  this is not a mac channel
[21:09] <Starnestommy> tuitu: try sudo aptitude reinstall file-roller?
[21:10] <chithetank_> @starnetommy ok thx my sec problem is a little bit crazy i installed defrag via package manager but it doesnt apear in my start menu any ideas? =)
[21:10] <PriceChild> JinRoh, I assume because you've told one that you've applied daylight savings time on the bios already, and the other that you haven't
[21:10] <jjg1> scottc:  you need to make sure that your usb stick is above your hdd in the boot order
[21:10] <tago> thanks stefg .. what kind of options should I try around with?
[21:10] <Scottc> jjg1: it is.
[21:10] <Starnestommy> chithetank_: it's a command-line program
[21:10] <chithetank_> oh ok...
[21:10] <ExTaCy> FeLaKeT
[21:10] <ExTaCy> :D
[21:10] <FeLaKeT> ExTaCy :D
[21:10] <jiphex> Has anyone managed to combine dual-monitors with compiz on an ATI Radeon card using the FGLRX driver?
[21:10] <JinRoh> PriceChild: where can I change that behaviour then? (And does it have anything to do with APIC? and what the hell is APIC? (wikipedia says something about BIOS, but it has happened since 2 ubuntus releases))
[21:10] <jiphex> I'm beginning to think it's impossible
[21:11] <chithetank_> @starnestommy thank you have a nice day..
[21:11] <azlon> ikonia: dude, i dont know what the f i did, but i now have dual head at 1440x900
[21:11] <stefg> tago: hard to tell without any precise diagnosis... but it's safe to just try them , the worst thing that can happen is that the machine doesn't boot... which it does not anywy now :-)
[21:11] <Starnestommy> JinRoh: I think it has to do with Windows using the hardware clock set to local time and linux wanting to use UTC/GMT
[21:12] <azlon> !divx
[21:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:12] <JinRoh> Starnestommy:  and how can I fix it? I have some troubles when I change time and some files have a timestamp in the future, it wouldn't let me open those files
[21:12] <lola> ciao!list
[21:12] <tuitu> file roller is a zipdriver file
[21:12] <tuitu> my problem is with nautilus
[21:12] <alison> ubotu: how to use secure delete to remove my trash can?
[21:12] <lola> !list
[21:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:12] <Starnestommy> tuitu: it's not opening archives?
[21:12] <tago> ok thanks again.. I'm gonna try right away.. if there's any further explaination of my problem that could help solve it please tell me
[21:12] <tuitu> no.
[21:13] <ASTX813> pdf2ps for some reason is stripping all the text and just giving me the graphic from my pdf.  what's up with that?
[21:13] <tuitu> when i try to open show a white dialog without messange
[21:13] <dec_> has anyone installed kde 4 yet
[21:13] <stefg> tago: but make sure to not use the 'quiet splash' parameters so you can read messages and see where it hangs
[21:13] <tuitu> and a past don't send permission to show the files
[21:13] <Starnestommy> tuitu: what are you trying to open with nautilus?
[21:13] <brandon> anyone? how can i change my screen resolution right now it only has one setting
[21:14] <tuitu> when i open with nautilus in the terminal he don't open the nautilus
[21:14] <stefg> !fixres | brandon
[21:14] <Starnestommy> ah
[21:14] <ubotu> brandon: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:14] <Task> what does the IEC958 do?  if its not enabled,.. will it stop my Mic.... sound capture?
[21:14] <k00kla> и?
[21:14] <tuitu> the problem is in the nautilus Starnestommy?
[21:14] <desertc> Task - unmute everything like the link I sent you said
[21:14] <brandon> thnank you
[21:14] <stefg> !ru | k00kla
[21:14] <ubotu> k00kla: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[21:14] <bieb> I have a flash drive that has a partition called MYCD_Vol. it gets recognized by Windows and Linus as a CD drive. How can I mount this readable so I can wipe the drive clean
[21:15] <Tetracomm> Hi.
[21:15] <Starnestommy> tuitu: looks like it.  Can you open it by going to Places -> Computer?
[21:15] <tago> ok thanks
[21:15] <dec_> has anyone installed kde 4 yet
[21:15] <tuitu> no
[21:15] <zak> I'm trying to install pidgin on a PPC .............can anyone help?
[21:15] <fuex> dec_: yah I have installed the new ubuntu packages for kde4
[21:15] <Task> desertc, I am way beyond that
[21:15] <PriceChild> zak, its installed by default? What troubles are you having?
[21:16] <Tetracomm> I have a partition which requires me to type in the root password to access it, I don't know why it requires that, could someone please help me to change this? This is what happens when I try to change the owner to root: Sorry, couldn't change the owner of "disk"., help?
[21:16] <zak> it is?
[21:16] <dec_> fuex can you help with the install from the live cd
[21:16] <swaldick> hi all, could someone help with a fstab issue?
[21:16] <stefg> bieb: you can't. that's ROM, faked as a CD where the vendor usually puts some crypto programs
[21:16] <PriceChild> zak, Applications > Internet
[21:16] <jiphex> q/quaaa
[21:16] <ASTX813> If I run pdf2ps on a pdf with no image in it, I get a blank page.
[21:16] <Starnestommy> tuitu: try sudo aptitude reinstall nautilus
[21:16] <Task> desertc, I already did that and my sound is working... its my Capture that is not....  I have a sound blaster audigy SE and cant get it to capture... when I click test it talks about a broken pipe
[21:16] <zak> I don't see Pidgin.. I'm running Feisty
[21:16] <javaccen> are there any common causes of poor gigabit network performance? i am only getting 200mbps instead of 600 or 700 like most people
[21:16] <noonan> anyone familiar with an emerald error; "Property _NET_WM_NAME contained invalid UTF-8"
[21:16] <PriceChild> zak, why do you want pidgin? What's wrong with gaim/
[21:16] <Starnestommy> zak: it might still be gaim in firsty
[21:16] <bieb> damn them Stefg
[21:16] <dec_> pricechild I have downloaded kde4 and when i choose install it asks about partiioning what do i do
[21:17] <PriceChild> !kde4 | dec_
[21:17] <ubotu> dec_: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[21:17] <fuex> dec_, nope, sorry. I installed 'standard' gutsy, with gnome etc.   and then I installed the kde4 packages. no liveCD
[21:17] <Starnestommy> *fiesty.
[21:17] <dec_> fuex where did you find the kde4 packages
[21:17] <alison> hey guys, what is a good firewall for ubuntu?
[21:17] <zak> I am familiar with Pidgin, I run it at my office on XP
[21:17] <PriceChild> dec_, read the message from ubotu please
[21:17] <tuitu> ok man.
[21:17] <PriceChild> zak, gaim *is* pidgin
[21:17] <stefg> !firewall | alison
[21:17] <ubotu> alison: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[21:17] <bieb> Pidgin rocks
[21:17] <zak> haah
[21:17] <tuitu> dec_ i wanna find a firewall too
[21:17] <zak> okay, thank you
[21:18] <Task> desertc, Why dont you suggest something now?    Maybe you should read too?
[21:18] <zak> I'm really new to Ubuntu
[21:18] <alison> stefg: which firewall do you use?
[21:18] <PriceChild> zak, just a name change.
[21:18] <PriceChild> zak, was induced after trademark issues with aol's "aim".
[21:18] <swaldick> i changed my fstab and then i enter mount -a in terminal and i get an error "cannot allocate memory". Can anyone help?
[21:18] <zak> OSX crashed and it was the only OS I could get to work on my old powerbook
[21:18] <peepsalot> i'm trying to use nautilus-scripts-collection-svn , but I'm not seeing any changes in nautilus, does anyone know how this is supposed to work?
[21:18] <bieb> for the person looking for in depth Pidgin help.. there is a channel for Pidgin
[21:18] <zak> I've used it for just a couple days now
[21:18] <zak> thanks for the info
[21:18] <JinRoh> I need some help. I have troubles starting Ubuntu cd. (It says something about APIC, I have to run it adding "noapic"). Then in the system the ubuntu time is always one hour behind system/windows time. If I change ubuntu time to the correct time it also adds 1 hour to windows (so it's not possible to have them all at the same time) It has something to do with APIC??
[21:19] <swaldick> i changed my fstab and then i enter mount -a in terminal and i get an error "cannot allocate memory". Can anyone help?
[21:19] <noonan> anyone know if I'm supposed to have 2 monitor and 3 screen sections in xorg.xconfig even though I have 1 screen?
[21:19] <Starnestommy> JinRoh: I don't think APIC has anything to do with the clock problem
[21:20] <Starnestommy> swaldick: are you running it as sudo mount -a?
[21:20] <swaldick> yeah
[21:20] <stefg> alison: errr .... iptables ? .... alison you had too much windows in the past. my firewall is in the router (which runs linux as well) and by default ubuntu doesn't need one. only if you open ports (openssh, samba, cups) you might need some rules for iptables (set by the firstarter gui)
[21:20] <swaldick> or sudo -i then mount -a
[21:20] <zak> can't to gmail chat with GAIM?
[21:20] <zak> *do
[21:20] <Tetracomm> I have a partition which requires me to type in the root password to access it, I don't know why it requires that, could someone please help me to change this? This is what happens when I try to change the owner to root: Sorry, couldn't change the owner of "disk"., help?
[21:20] <bkar> swaldick-> what have you changed in the fstab?
[21:20] <bieb> GAIM is now PIDGIN
[21:21] <bieb> Pidgin has support for Gmail chat
[21:21] <Starnestommy> so does gaim through xmpp
[21:21] <evil_tech> so does gaim
[21:21] <swaldick> i added a drive, i've done it many times before...
[21:21] <zak> how do I get xmpp?
[21:21] <Task> desertc,  dont get quiet now... please do tell me the next step... dont just tell me one lil thing that the tutorials tell me.....
[21:21] <bieb> If you Update Gaim.. you will be running Pidgin, they are the same product
[21:21] <Starnestommy> zak: it's a protocol built-in gaim
[21:21] <XBehave> my flash was working bout 5 minutes ago and now its not, im in firefox3 nightly but the same is happening with ff2
[21:22] <zak> I wasn't able to update Pigdin.. I'm on a PPC
[21:22] <bieb> with Pidgin, there is a "google talk" option for accounts
[21:22] <alpaco> how do I start a login shell?
[21:22] <bieb> zak.. did you ask in the Pidgin channel?
[21:22] <alpaco> I need a genuine csh/ksh/bash
[21:22] <swaldick> sudo -i make all following commands under root right?
[21:22] <Starnestommy> alpaco: open a terminal window or hit ctrl+alt+F1?
[21:22] <bieb> yes swal
[21:22] <rinaldi_> XBehave: i had to reinstall flash when i installed ff3. just get it off http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[21:23] <zak> I didn't know there was a pidgin channel.. :(
[21:23] <alison> stefg: what kind of router do you have? a cisco?
[21:23] <Task> ok... I got my sound working ... I had top disable my onboard sound since I have Sound Blaster Card... but I cant get the mic working for nothing!!!  Can Anyone suggest or help? I did the alsamixer... and all capture devices are max and the sound selector is ALSA with Sound capture also on ALSA
[21:23] <W8TAH> zak - be careful in pidgin -- they dont tolerate newbies well at all
[21:23] <bieb> zak yep.. on Freenode just join #pidgin, I have seen some of the programmers in there
[21:23] <Gizmo_The_Great> I have a machine with a 500Gb hardware RAIDed drive comprising 3 disks. It's currently formatted with NTFS. Guty Gibbon seems to be able to write to NTFS by default. My question is, should I trust the NTFS support? My hunch is to reformat with ext3 or reiser but it would be useful to have NTFS access now and again.
[21:23] <stefg> alison: no, a 20 buck el cheapo chinese nobrand .... i hacked the firmware :-)
[21:23] <tushyd> i currently am running Ubuntu (gutsy), how do I install KDE4 on it?
[21:24] <Task> flashin routers   :)
[21:24] <tacone> Gizmo_The_Great: what do you mean for 'loose' ?
[21:24] <alison> haha
[21:24] <Task> stefg, I wish you flash me :)
[21:24] <bieb> tushyd are you not going to use gnome anymore?
[21:24] <jiphex> Hi, anyone managed to combine dual monitors, compiz and fglrx?
[21:24] <Task> :p
[21:24] <tushyd> bieb, i want to be able to switch
[21:25] <bieb> ok
[21:25] <Task> nickrud, yah home?
[21:25] <kbrooks> uh, ok, question. is there something better than bum but GUI for startup and shutdown scripts, bum dont let me touch them
[21:25] <Gizmo_The_Great> tacone, not sure what you mean, sorry?
[21:25] <kbrooks> boot up manager
[21:25] <tacone> what do you mean by "useful to have ntfs access ..."
[21:25] <alison> apple's new server rack is sweeet
[21:26] <PriceChild> !offtopic | alison
[21:26] <ubotu> alison: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:26] <tushyd> bieb, is there a subo apt-get way to do it? It was easy with XFCE
[21:26] <stefg> alison: so don't be overly paranoid. if you are behind a router just enable that firewall, and don't worry about your ubuntu box's firewall. if you are directly connected to the net, read some stuff about firestarter.
[21:26] <Gizmo_The_Great> tacone, i see. Well it's dual boot, and perhaps, every blue moon I might need to access it via Windows (which doesnt support ext3 or reiser by default). But it would be rare. But IF  Ubuntu is OK with NTFS 100% then I may as well keep it. But I expect it's better using it's own FS - i.e. ext3?
[21:26] <alpaco> what's the best way to return to my gnome session after hitting  ctrl+alt+F1?
[21:27] <alison> ok
[21:27] <alpaco> Starnestommy: what's the best way to return to my gnome session after hitting  ctrl+alt+F1?
[21:27] <Starnestommy> alpaco: ctrl+alt+f7
[21:27] <tacone> Gizmo_The_Great: I didn't test ntfs write support but should ok these days
[21:27] <PriceChild> !away > uni^gone
[21:28] <uni^gone> PriceChild ??
[21:28] <uni^gone> what?
[21:28] <Tetracomm> I just changed the owner to root, but how do I change the group to plugdev like the other disks?
[21:28] <Tetracomm> This iswhat happens when I try: You do not have the permissions necessary to change the group of "disk".
[21:28] <tacone> Gizmo_The_Great: you can make partitions, but doing that won't allow you (I guess) linux software raid
[21:28] <kbrooks> !ntfs-3g \Gizmo_The_Great
[21:28] <kbrooks> er
[21:28] <Flare183> uni^gone: your not supposed to mark yourself away
[21:28] <un0p> stefg, that's assuming that your box (behind a router) is never compromised .. but NAT is not a security feature, it's just a coincidence that a NATted host can't directly be reached from the internet
[21:28] <kbrooks> !ntfs-3g | Gizmo_The_Great
[21:28] <ubotu> Gizmo_The_Great: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[21:28] <partypants> I am having trouble compiling wacom-kernal-source. I get an error saying: [libwacomcfg.la] Error 1
[21:28] <Starnestommy> uni^gone: some people find switching nicks to makr yourself away rude
[21:28] <Starnestommy> *mark
[21:28] <tacone> Gizmo_The_Great: I am on a 2-hd raid0, with ntfs and ext3
[21:29] <Flare183> uni^gone: plus it is not allowed
[21:29] <uni^gone> uhm.. i got that. it's just, that i use several servers and don't want to set my nick for each one
[21:29] <kbrooks> uni^gone, just /away <reason>, no one cares why you're away. if they do, they can /whois you.
[21:29] <uni^gone> so i used "/anick"
[21:29] <kbrooks> !away | uni^gone
[21:29] <ubotu> uni^gone: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also  !Guidelines
[21:29] <uni^gone> uh, right
[21:29] <erider> is it possible to upgrade ubuntu 6.06 without reloading the whole OS
[21:30] <stefg> un0p: true, but even cheap routers have a firewall in most cases, that just won't allow incoming traffic, unless you specifiaclly open or forward the port
[21:30] <bcardarella> Is there a way to increase the desktop size without changing my resolution? (i.e. so when I reach a border it scrolls?)
[21:30] <kbrooks> erider, yes, but only direct to 6.10
[21:30] <Gizmo_The_Great> kbrooks, ubotu tacone thanks guys. I know that NTFS is supported. But I'm just trying to determine from those more experienced than I am whether ext3 is a safer bet than using NTFS on Linux. I trust NTFS with Windows, but because MS have never released the NTFS structure I'm worried that it might be best to go with what Linux knows best, if you see my point?
[21:30] <Tetracomm> This is very important. That is most of my disk space.
[21:30] <erider> kbrooks, how
[21:30] <kbrooks> erider, going directly to e.g. 7.10 from 6.06 breaks your system and is not supported
[21:30] <un0p> stefg, I wouldn't trust the firewalling on a SOHO router (even tho some run linux + iptables), would you?
[21:30] <kbrooks> !upgrade | erider
[21:31] <ubotu> erider: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:31] <tacone> Gizmo_The_Great: I would not install linux on a ntfs partition (even don't know if it is possible)
[21:31] <XBehave> uni^gone theyre gnome users in here (a.k.a they can be real nazis when it comes to rules) so just dont change your nick
[21:31] <peepsalot> are there any good svn frontend GUIs?
[21:31] <tacone> but you can try wubi
[21:31] <Gizmo_The_Great> tacone, not installation - just storage. Its installted on a seperate SCSI disk with ext3 FS.
[21:31] <kbrooks> XBehave, please don't insult the channel
[21:31] <erider> kbrooks, ok thanks
[21:31] <partypants> I am having trouble compiling wacom-kernal-source. I get an error saying: [libwacomcfg.la] Error 1
[21:31] <Gizmo_The_Great> tacone, but the RAID is currently NTFS
[21:32] <tacone> Gizmo_The_Great: you can partition the raided volume anyway
[21:32] <tacone> Gizmo_The_Great: search the internet for "ubuntu fake raid"
[21:32] <kbrooks> Gizmo_The_Great, easy to convert over to ext3 if you want, backup, format with ext3, and you're off.
[21:32] <Gizmo_The_Great> tacone, I know I can, but I don't want to :-) I want the full 500Gb of storage for a single data set
[21:32] <stefg> un0p: depends on what kind of network is behinf that... no samba-shares, no cups , no sshd open by default in ubuntu.... nothing. a brick wall without windows.
[21:32] <tacone> !wubi | Gizmo_The_Great
[21:32] <ubotu> Gizmo_The_Great: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[21:32] <Gizmo_The_Great> tacone, its not a fake or software RAID. Its a hardware RAID
[21:33] <tacone> look at wubi, but it's still a beta
[21:33] <tacone> they say it's safe anyway, and it's likely to ship with next ubuntu
[21:33] <un0p> stefg, I suppose the hosts on those networks also no not make connections to the internet and trust the content in those connections entirely?? :)
[21:34] <Gizmo_The_Great> tacone, I'm not a Windows user! It's a windows machine that I have brought from home. I have installed Linux on it as I do with all my stuff. But because its a Win machine it has an NTFS hardware RAID. I am just trying to determine what's the better FS when used with Linux. ext3 or NTFS.
[21:34] <XBehave> the current 2 gutsy and feisty are definatly not for use by new users
[21:34] <partypants> Could someone point me to a guide on compliling/troubleshooting compile errors?
[21:34] <tacone> Gizmo_The_Great: ext3 :-)
[21:34] <Gizmo_The_Great> tacone, thansk for your time but I think I'll just reformat with ext3
[21:34] <Gizmo_The_Great> tacone, :-)
[21:34] <tacone> :-)
[21:35] <stefg> un0p: the only perfect firewall is pulling the LAN plug or unscrewing the wifi antenna :-)
[21:35] <Photocopy> !dualboot
[21:35] <XBehave> Gizmo_The_Great: ntfs still has a cpu hit with it on ubuntu
[21:35] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[21:35] <Gizmo_The_Great> XBehave, Ah, thats the kind of info I was after
[21:35] <Gizmo_The_Great> XBehave, so there is performance issues?
[21:35] <un0p> Gizmo_The_Great, ntfs suppot is not officially reliable (i doubt it will ever be) .. not wise to use ntfs on crucial partitions
[21:35] <apocn> how can I upgrade aMSN to its latest version?
[21:35] <apocn> Im using ubuntu 7.10
[21:36] <tacone> Gizmo_The_Great: keeping windows as a secondary os is premature optimization. You aren't gonna need it ;-)
[21:36] <Gizmo_The_Great> apocn, go to aMSN website. They now have a point and click package manager
[21:36] <XBehave> Gizmo_The_Great:  not too bad but i notice my cpu usage go up abit
[21:36] <XBehave> but then again im on an old system with a wierd setup
[21:36] <ompaul> !latest | apocn
[21:36] <ubotu> apocn: A higher version number does not mean that it's better. Especially with packages such as the linux kernel. The packages in the Ubuntu repositories are stable and will work fine. You should have a better reason than "newer" when considering compiling from source or using 3rd party repos.
[21:36] <evil_tech>  
[21:36] <Gizmo_The_Great> tacone, I only left it on because officially it's a work PC that is on 'long term loan' to myself. So I thought I'd best leave it on there
[21:36] <RealityGone> tacone, i keep windows around to play games like on Steam & things like that. I'll run some things in wine but i'd just prefer to run those in their native environment
[21:36] <nixnoob> !flash
[21:36] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[21:36] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[21:37] <XBehave> the cpu usage that is coming from ntfs tools may be because im using truecrypt on top of it
[21:37] <apocn> ubotu: ? so you're saying their improvements doesnt matter?
[21:37] <XBehave> Gizmo_The_Great: what are you planning to do on the system reiser4 or JFs may be better
[21:37] <Flare183> apocn: ubotu is a bot
[21:37] <un0p> !ubotu | apocn
[21:37] <ubotu> apocn: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:37] <apocn> ah bah
[21:37] <XBehave> *reiserfs
[21:37] <ompaul> apocn, it makes no sense if you use a distro based on packages
[21:37] <astabeno> Is there a reason I only have 640x480 and 800x600 modes in Hardy
[21:37] <partypants> I'm new to linux, and I would like to learn how to compile, and resolve compile errors. How should I go about learning?
[21:37] <astabeno> for screen resolutions
[21:37] <apocn> ompaul: makes sense to me, you dont know if there is a feature I want to use from this new version...
[21:37] <bcardarella> How do I increase the desktop size without changing my resolution? (i.e. so when I reach a border it scrolls?)
[21:38] <stefg> astabeno: yes... your ati card :-)
[21:38] <Gizmo_The_Great> XBehave, I considered reiser. But its not as mature as ext3. I like reliability over performance. It will be a data store - nothing too intensive - digital photography, video etc
[21:38] <bieb> Stefg I did an fdisk -l on that flash drive and Ubuntu tells me "I dont know how to handle files with mode 40555" what is mode 40555?
[21:38] <tacone> bcardarella: you're monitor is likely to have the answer
[21:38] <ompaul> apocn, standard advice, you have been given it, be sure to enjoy your choice
[21:38] <astabeno> stefg:I am running in a vmware guest
[21:38] <stefg> !permissions | bieb
[21:38] <ubotu> bieb: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[21:38] <apocn> ompaul : cool, thanks :]
[21:38] <XBehave> well ntfs may be fine, ext is better, ive had problems with ntfs but nothing that stops my system working
[21:39] <Hilikus> why is the svn package 3 versions behind??
[21:39] <Scottc> when I try to boot from my flash drive with the Ubuntu installer on it, I get an error "Failed to load kernel: Linux" or something along those lines
[21:39] <atiredmachine> I'm using mpdscribble, which is a program that simply keeps track of what music I listen to and then submits it to last.fm .. all my tracks get cached until I do a sudo /etc/init.d/mpdscribble restart and then they finally get submitted to last.fm .. until I do that it is unable to handshake.  Anybody know why a program that runs at startup wouldn't be able to connect with a server, but when restarted from commandline it 
[21:39] <Scottc> anyone know what i'm doing wrong?
[21:39] <Hilikus> mm is it because im using feisty?
[21:40] <XBehave> partypants: ubuntu is a package based disto, this chan is just for support and following rules, the #gentoo guys know more about compiling thier wiki is quite good for most stuff perhaps it covers compiling errors well
[21:40] <ompaul> !info svn
[21:40] <Gizmo_The_Great> XBehave, thanks. I think I'll play it safe and go with ext3
[21:40] <ubotu> Package svn does not exist in gutsy
[21:40] <ompaul> !info subversion
[21:40] <ubotu> subversion: Advanced version control system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.4dfsg1-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 235 kB, installed size 3392 kB
[21:40] <stefg> astabeno: you probably haven't selected the vmware video driver, or need vmware-tools installed. try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and check that vmware is the selected driver and give the maximum reso of your display if you want to run fullscreen
[21:41] <Stunatra> Is Hardy going to be stable by the time it is released? Or is it going to be another Feisty/Gutsy?
[21:41] <Photocopy> http://pastebin.com/m337e5cfa    Help me out please
[21:42] <alpaco_>  is there any book you might recommend on the cli? I'm reading "Harley Hahn's student guide to unix (1996)" at the moment
[21:42] <LjL> Stunatra: that's implying feisty and gutsy are not stable?
[21:42] <astabeno> stefg: When I ran dpkg-reconfig it gave me an error and said I had a custom xorg.conf and just save a backup and would not let me edit video
[21:42] <erawfish> LjL: I don't remember feisty anymore but gutsy certainly wasn't release quality, sorr
[21:42] <erawfish> y
[21:42] <Stunatra> Ljl, lot of things that worked in Feisty, no longer work in Gutsy.
[21:42] <astabeno> stefg: everything is set to generic right out of the box
[21:42] <amikrop> How can I generate an RSA key?
[21:42] <Stunatra> Things that were fine in Feisty turned into issues in Gutsy.
[21:43] <ompaul> amikrop, not sure if this is what you want,     ssh-keygen -t rsa
[21:43] <Photocopy> http://pastebin.com/m337e5cfa    Help me out please???
[21:43] <etotheipi> Hi. What could the problem be causing this?: the Ubuntu splash hangs for about 2/3m after boot is supposedly complete, and running anything which has some connection to the default install (gedit, xterm, nautilus) hangs for many minutes before opening (while the CPU is idle!)
[21:43] <amikrop> ompaul: Why wouldn't I want that?
[21:43] <LjL> Photocopy: how is that question related to the topic of this channel?
[21:43] <Slart> Stunatra: what things? just curious.. my gutsy installs have been working nicely
[21:43] <LjL> Photocopy: let me answer that for you, it's not
[21:43] <wanglixian> My name is Wanglixian ,I'm China people! where beautiful woman    guffaw！！！！
[21:43] <Stunatra> Slart, too many to recall.
[21:43] <Photocopy> LjL I have talked to you about this before
[21:43] <LjL> !ot | wanglixian
[21:43] <ubotu> wanglixian: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:43] <Flare183> !offtopic > wanglixian
[21:43] <Dr_5> u-gr
[21:43] <Stunatra> But having Compiz enabled by default on Gutsy was not a good idea, IMO.
[21:43] <ompaul> amikrop, read what I said, not sure if this is what you want - assuming you want an ssh rsa key then it fits the bill but if it is some other rsa key then ....
[21:44] <PriceChild> Stunatra, its not
[21:44] <Slart> Stunatra: I don't think it is.. mine wasn't
[21:44] <amikrop> ompaul: OK. Thank you.
[21:44] <PriceChild> Stunatra, its enabled by default "if" you have certain hardware that's compatible
[21:44] <Stunatra> Slart, it is.
[21:44] <Photocopy> LjL I'm here to be helped, not hassled. I'll find help elsewhere, though the other channels are always dead empty.
[21:44] <Stunatra> PriceChild, it shouldn't be enabled at all.
[21:44] <ompaul> !offtopic
[21:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:44] <stefg> astabeno: smy guess is that you run on vesa drivers now, which explains there's only 800x600. boot into recovery, backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf and move it out of the way, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again
[21:44] <Slart> Stunatra: but I have only installed gutsy on pretty low end machines.. and a laptop.. might be that
[21:44] <Stunatra> If people want it, they should have the option of turning them on.
[21:44] <ompaul> Support is not opinion!
[21:44] <LjL> Stunatra: well, i can't read the future, or know what's the matter with your computer... gutsy works for me. the only thing i can say is that Hardy is going to be LTS, so it will probably tend to be slightly more stable (at least in the long term) than other releases
[21:45] <Flare183> Photocopy: i'd advise you not to get smart
[21:45] <LjL> !gparted > Photocopy    (Photocopy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[21:45] <Stunatra> I have an SS here, let me find it.
[21:45] <astabeno> stefg: sounds like a plan I will give it a shot
[21:45] <LjL> !pm | Photocopy
[21:45] <ubotu> Photocopy: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[21:45] <PriceChild> Stunatra, that's your opinion. Get involved with the development of Ubuntu and make it count.
[21:46] <voodooChile> hi i my ubuntu crashed and i couldnt install again. and i cannot run windows to at the beggining it says grub error 5 how can i fix this
[21:46] <erawfish> !grub | voodooChile
[21:46] <ubotu> voodooChile: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:46] <Flare183> !fixgrub
[21:46] <Stunatra> Now tell me what this is SUPPOSED to look like: http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/1/18/f_Snapshot1m_f4a199f.png
[21:46] <LjL> Photocopy: resizing partitions is always a dangerous operators, so yes that might wreck your boot. simply reformatting the currently-Linux partition should normally not do any harm, except that you will probably have to reinstall the Windows bootloader if you're using the Linux bootloader (GRUB) now. that can be accomplished with the Windows CD
[21:46] <PriceChild> Stunatra, that is not standard behaviour.
[21:47] <Stunatra> PriceChild, of course it isn't.
[21:47] <PriceChild> Stunatra, ie. you broke something.
[21:47] <Stunatra> PriceChild, I did not break anything.
[21:47] <Slart> Stunatra: wow.. large letters.. that is a new standard install?
[21:47] <Stunatra> Slart, yes.
[21:47] <PriceChild> !bug | Stunatra
[21:47] <ubotu> Stunatra: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[21:47] <Stunatra> I did not touch anything on the system.
[21:47] <voodooChile> erawfish i tried theese  but it didnt work
[21:47] <Photocopy> Alright LjL, thanks for half the help, now I go pursue the rest of it in a totally different channel where I have to go through the first part all over again
[21:47] <Starnestommy> voodooChile: it means the partition table might be corrupt, I think
[21:47] <Slart> Stunatra: did you check the cd for errors?
[21:47] <Stunatra> Slart, the CD's are fine. I have tried more than one.
[21:48] <Slart> Stunatra: and you get the same error?
[21:48] <erawfish> voodooChile:  http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc
[21:48] <PriceChild> Stunatra, read the message from ubotu
[21:48] <Stunatra> Slart, there is no "error"
[21:48] <Stunatra> PriceChild, I got it, thanks.
[21:48] <Slart> Stunatra: sorry.. the same behaviour?
[21:48] <Stunatra> Slart, yes.
[21:49] <PriceChild> Slart, he says discs are fine, and he hasn't changed anything since install so it "must" be a bug, just leave him to it.
[21:49] <Stunatra> My hardware is preetty standard.
[21:49] <Scottc> Has anyone here ever installed Ubuntu from a USB drive that can help me out?
[21:49] <erawfish> !anyone
[21:49] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[21:49] <Scottc> I'm using windows and i'm a bit confused about what I need to do with SYSLINUX
[21:49] <anolis> where would i go for help with fretsonfire?
[21:49] <matttis> Hi, I have problems updating the xserver-xorg-core. I get a 403 error if the update-manager wants to download the update package.
[21:49] <erawfish> Scottc: context
[21:50] <PriceChild> matttis, sudo apt-get update
[21:50] <LjL> !xorg > matttis    (matttis, see the private message from Ubotu)
[21:50] <Scottc> well when running SYSLINUX, it gave me a list of possible params
[21:50] <erawfish> Scottc: why do you run syslinux?
[21:50] <Scottc> I have no idea. :)
[21:50] <Slart> anolis: fretsonfire? I guess the fretsonfire-site?
[21:50] <voodooChile> is there anyway to delete grub and just start windows
[21:50] <Scottc> https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html < it says to in here
[21:50] <Flare183> voodooChile: nope
[21:50] <W8TAH> !info |zenoss
[21:50] <erawfish> voodooChile: only by overwriting it
[21:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:51] <Flare183> voodooChile: unless you reinstall windows or restore winidows
[21:51] <W8TAH> !info zenoss
[21:51] <ubotu> Package zenoss does not exist in gutsy
[21:51] <erawfish> voodooChile: for that you need to boot windows recovery console and run fixmbr
[21:51] <stefg> !mbr
[21:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:51] <LjL> !info mbr | voodooChile, Flare183
[21:51] <ubotu> voodoochile, flare183: mbr: Master Boot Record for IBM-PC compatible computers.. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.9-2ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 22 kB, installed size 92 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[21:51] <Scottc> unfortunately all the commands the article tells me to run are for a linux commandline
[21:51] <LjL> !info ms-sys | voodooChile, Flare183
[21:51] <ubotu> voodoochile, flare183: ms-sys: Write a Microsoft compatible boot record. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1 (gutsy), package size 19 kB, installed size 128 kB
[21:51] <swaldick> has anyone seen this before "warning: jmacd-8: reiserfs_fill_super: unable to read bitmap"
[21:51] <Flare183> LjL: dude wha? I already knew that
[21:51] <LjL> Flare183: then why did you answer negatively...?
[21:52] <gizmoarena> !info
[21:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:52] <LjL> !bot > gizmoarena    (gizmoarena, see the private message from Ubotu)
[21:52] <stefg> swaldick: time for a fsck, i guess
[21:52] <Flare183> LjL: so your saying that reinstalling windows is bad?
[21:52] <tylerjgillies> if you install 7.04 with wubi can you upgrade to 7.10 via apt-get?
[21:52] <erawfish> Scottc: then maybe you should boot ubuntu
[21:53] <Flare183> !upgrade | tylerjgillies
[21:53] <ubotu> tylerjgillies: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:53] <erawfish> tylerjgillies: not really since you can't upgrade your kernel
[21:53] <Flare183> LjL: oww... nevermind
[21:53] <swaldick> what does fsck do
[21:53] <LjL> Flare183: ...? he asked if there is a way to delete grub and start windows without grub. there is. it involves writing a MS boot record, and that can be done with ms-sys
[21:53] <swaldick> ??
[21:53] <Slart> swaldick: file system check
[21:53] <Flare183> LjL: oh ok gotcha
[21:53] <swaldick> in terminal
[21:53] <Slart> swaldick: like scandisk for windows
[21:53] <hyper_ch> got a boot problem with the network manager:  http://www.pastebin.org/16004   --> I need to press ctrl-alt-delete in order to continue the boot process
[21:53] <erawfish> Scottc: man <command>, in this cas man fsck
[21:54] <Flare183> swaldick: scans your hd for errors
[21:54] <cvd_> hey there, any here have an update security error with xserver-xorg-core?
[21:54] <swaldick> oh but i can't mount the drive
[21:54] <LjL> !xbug > cvd_    (cvd_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[21:54] <cvd_>  Failed to fetch http://security.buntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb
[21:54] <cvd_>   403 Forbidden
[21:54] <Starnestommy> cvd_: I( got an HTTP 403 error
[21:54] <QuickGold> cvd_: it's fixed
[21:54] <QuickGold> try now
[21:54] <LjL> !paste > cvd_    (cvd_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[21:54] <Slart> swaldick: it's never supposed to be mounted when you do a fsck
[21:54] <cvd_> im tryin
[21:54] <erawfish> swaldick: you cannot fsck a mounted drive either
[21:54] <QuickGold> I had the 403 error earlier but it works now for me
[21:54] <tylerjgillies> hyper_ch: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[21:54] <LjL> !topic
[21:54] <swaldick> perfect thanks
[21:54] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[21:54] <Starnestommy> still 403'ing
[21:54] <hyper_ch> tylerjgillies: gutsy... problem lies with network manager it seems
[21:55] <tylerjgillies> hyper_ch: hrm i had problems with network manager in feisty, but they seem fixedfor me in gutsy
[21:55] <Starnestommy> wait, fixed, nm
[21:56] <hyper_ch> tylerjgillies: also strange is, that one partition doesn't get mounted.... but that might be another issue
[21:56] <spanther> is kde4 stable now and available for ubuntu ?
[21:56] <LjL> !kde4 > spanther    (spanther, see the private message from Ubotu)
[21:56] <stefg> spanther: no, yes
[21:56] <spanther> Stefan_F, lol okay ^^
[21:56] <jamel> j'arrive mes amis
[21:56] <hyper_ch> tylerjgillies: maybe I just should remove it... I don't need it anyway... I do network configuration throught the config files anyway
[21:57] <tylerjgillies> hyper_ch: thats what i did in feisty
[21:57] <Dr_5> hi!
[21:57] <hyper_ch> tylerjgillies: I'll reboot - might be that I get a disk check now... either this reboot or the next one
[21:58] <Flare183> !hi | Dr_5
[21:58] <c0ldfusi0n> Hey peoples, I have a question. I'm using "tar -czf /path/to/files/*.sql" to compress a bunch of SQL files, but in the resulting archive it gives me directories (such as the actual path of the files). Any way to fix it and just have the files in the tar file?
[21:58] <ubotu> Dr_5: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[21:58] <Dr_5> can anyone tell which is the best firewall for ubuntu???thanks
[21:58] <foso> can someone point me to the compiz channel?
[21:58] <LjL> !firewall > Dr_5    (Dr_5, see the private message from Ubotu)
[21:58] <erUSUL> !firewall | Dr_5
[21:58] <ubotu> Dr_5: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[21:58] <Flare183> iptables | Dr_5
[21:58] <Flare183> !iptables | Dr_5
[21:58] <Starnestommy> foso: #compiz-fusion >
[21:58] <stefg> c0ldfusi0n: man tar :-)
[21:58] <c0ldfusi0n> I looked around, I can't seem to find the right keyword to define what I want (or don't want) to do...
[21:58] <foso> Starnestommy: thanks!
[21:59] <Dr_5> thanks Flare183,i will check it...firestarter isn'w good?
[21:59] <c0ldfusi0n> Anyone?
[21:59] <Flare183> Dr_5: yeap
[21:59] <Flare183> Dr_5: that's it firestarter
[21:59] <Slart> hey any iptables guru's here?.. I've got some firewall rules that are applied every 5 minutes, in the rules I reference some dns-names that get resolved to ip's when the rules are applied. This works great as long as I can reach the external dns to resolve these names.. the problems appear when my internet connection dies for some reason.. if I then reboot my computer none of the network interfaces come up since it no longer can resolve those dns-names (no
[21:59] <Slart> internet connection, remember?). This means I can't access the machine from my internal network (since it's apparently all interfaces up or none). Then I have to hook up a monitor and keyboard to the machine the start trouble-shooting instead of just doing this through ssh like I normally do... Any good solutions to this?
[21:59] <|REM|> does anyone know how I would append the argument $1 to a file?
[21:59] <Dr_5> thanks!
[22:00] <LjL> |REM|: elaborate? not sure i understood
[22:00] <c0ldfusi0n> Anyone's got anything more helpful than a RTFM answer?
[22:00] <Flare183> |REM|: open it and at the top of the doc add [$1]
[22:00] <Flare183> Dr_5: no problem
[22:00] <Stone_age> Real Nice, Security update for X11, and get a 403 from the server
[22:00] <spanther> !xbug | Stone_age
[22:00] <jklfdjskl> sometimes when i load windows (with compiz fusion running) they are black for about a second. is there any way to stop this behavior?
[22:00] <assilva> ola a todos vejan minha tela gnome;  meu gnomao tigrao; http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capturadatelamg2.png
[22:00] <ubotu> Stone_age: A recent security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. The broken X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, which is why you got "403 Forbidden" errors. It should be fixed now.
[22:00] <Flare183> !es
[22:00] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:00] <assilva>  meu gnomao tigrao; http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capturadatelamg2.png
[22:01] <stefg> !br | assilva
[22:01] <ubotu> assilva: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:01] <FAclcon> I want to get some files from a ftp with mget, how can I do so it answer y to every file and not manually write it
[22:01] <assilva> ok
[22:01] <Flare183> there you go
[22:01]  * Slart wonders if he typed all that for nothing.. *sigh* | 
[22:01] <Stone_age> Thnaks, but apparnetly it's not, as I just tried a second ago
[22:01] <Flare183> Slart: sorry...
[22:01] <swaldick> on fsck what does "wrong hash code mean"
[22:01] <Stone_age> Thanks for the info though
[22:01] <LjL> c0ldfusi0n: perhaps --strip? not sure
[22:01] <apetrescu> Hi everyone :)
[22:02] <spanther> Stone_age, np :)
[22:02] <haxax> how can i set the clock by cli?
[22:02] <Flare183> !hi | apetrescu
[22:02] <ubotu> apetrescu: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[22:02] <|REM|> i'm writing an sh script that when called from the command line would be like ./test.sh "hello world"   In the script, i can do the line echo $1 and it will output: hello world  what i am trying to do is something like $1 >> somefile  but all i get in that file is an error that no such file or dir exists
[22:02] <kr00l> anyone know how to get edubuntu software on regular ubuntu system?
[22:02] <demetrio> hello someone can help with my webcam please?
[22:02] <Slart> Flare183: I think "date"
[22:02] <stefg> swaldick: that means that your backup is one day older than it should have been (just kidding) :-)
[22:02] <Slart> Flare183: oops.. wrong nick
[22:02] <swaldick> haha
[22:02] <Flare183> wow
[22:02] <th0r> haxax the date command
[22:02] <Slart> haxax: try "date"
[22:02] <haxax> ok
[22:02] <Flare183> !webcam | demetrio
[22:02] <ubotu> demetrio: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[22:02] <astabeno> is there a base xorg.conf file to start from that I could run dpkg-reconfigure on
[22:02] <LjL> Slart, erm sorry if i sound obvious, but couldn't you references those hosts by IP?
[22:03] <tylerjgillies> firestarter segfaulted. heh thats not good ;)
[22:03] <dec_> anyone know of a package for ubuntu and a sony w580i phone
[22:03] <Flare183> tylerjgillies: you got that right
[22:04] <Slart> LjL: well.. they change =).. it's dyndns name for friends.. so they can access my teamspeak server and such.. I got tired of updating my firewall whenever they shut down their computer for the night
[22:04] <spanther> LjL, so you mean i cant get a stable version until they begin work at 5 ? Oo
[22:04] <hyper_ch> tylerjgillies: ok, it wasn't the network manager... then it still may be related to one of my harddisks
[22:05] <fatih> Is there any movie players which shutdown computer automatically when movie finished??
[22:05] <Stunatra> I submitted the bug.
[22:05] <extern> I executed sudo apt-get autoremove and now most of the applications doesn't start. It seems that it has removed packages which still were used
[22:05] <extern> is there any convenient way to fix this?
[22:05] <xray7224> hi
[22:05] <Stunatra> lol
[22:05] <t3maha00> hi all. i have a problem :). ie i try to install anything with apt-get, installation stops to this message: Errors were encountered while processing: kio-umountwrapper
[22:05] <LjL> spanther, the correct channel is still #kubuntu-kde4 ;)
[22:05] <t3maha00> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:06] <t3maha00> what i should to do to fix this?
[22:06] <Flare183> extern: impossible
[22:06] <c0ldfusi0n> "tar -czfPs --remove-files" doesn't seem to work..
[22:06] <w0zza> Hi guys, how do i add read/write access for a smb mount? I am using the following command - sudo smbmount //192.168.2.74/public/applications /home/warran/mount/kenny_public -o username=,password=
[22:06] <w0zza> not sure what needs to be added in any help is appreciated..
[22:06] <spanther> LjL, blah xD *tickles*
[22:06] <Flare183> !dpkg
[22:06] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[22:06] <Slart> t3maha00: remove the package in the error message
[22:06] <c0ldfusi0n> Should it be separated arguyments? tar -czf -P -s --remove-files ?
[22:06] <xray7224> i have a problem im trying to change from vista to ubuntu and are having big problems
[22:06] <LjL> Slart, well, you could install a local, caching dns server
[22:06] <LjL> !info dnsmasq | Slart, this is one, there are others
[22:06] <ubotu> slart, this is one, there are others: dnsmasq: A small caching DNS proxy and DHCP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.39-1 (gutsy), package size 203 kB, installed size 624 kB
[22:06] <CeRe> Anyone can help? I  can't log in gnome.. When I log in I get kicked back to the Log in manager
[22:07] <fatih> extern:impossible. i made the same mistake also
[22:07] <Flare183> !dpkg crash fix | t3maha00
[22:07] <ubotu> t3maha00: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:07] <xray7224> is there anyway to wake-lan-on | enable from linux command line
[22:07] <spanther> okay good night everyone ^^
[22:07] <LjL> however, Slart, you'd have to make sure it starts *before* your networking script starts. which might not be the case. i'm not sure i understand why you would need to have a DNS in firewall rules.. perhaps you could pastebin the thing?
[22:07] <fatih> extern:impossible. i made the same mistake also
[22:07] <xray7224> because im struggerling getting my hardware seen in linux
[22:07] <fatih> Is there any movie players which shutdown computer automatically when movie finished??
[22:07] <Slart> LjL: that's a good solution too.. or I could just create a script to make those 5 rules that use the dns names..
[22:07] <extern> so how can I get this fixed?
[22:07] <CeRe> Anyone can help? I  can't log in gnome.. When I log in I get kicked back to the Log in manager
[22:08] <xray7224> log in as fail save and re-install gnome
[22:08] <xray7224> *fail safe
[22:08] <Flare183> !who | xray7224
[22:08] <ubotu> xray7224: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[22:08] <erUSUL> CeRe: have you installed nvidia or ati drivers manually?
[22:08] <chris_goe> what's up with USN-571-1?
[22:08] <CeRe> yes I got nvidia drivers manally, but did it months ago
[22:08] <CeRe> manually*
[22:08] <tylerjgillies> whats the wmaster0 device? i only have one NIC
[22:09] <chris_goe> i cannot download xserver-xorg-core_1.2.0-3ubuntu8.1_*.deb
[22:09] <chris_goe> gives me a 403, for all archs
[22:09] <extern> I can't even run terminal anymore, so I don't know which packages are actually missing, since gnome apps don't run in text mode
[22:09] <erUSUL> CeRe: you have to install them again becouse of today's xserver update
[22:09] <extern> does apt-get keep some kind of log of what it does?
[22:09] <Starnestommy> chris_goe: hit "check" then try again
[22:09] <CeRe> alright, i will try to
[22:09] <LjL> Slart: yeah. you could also (possibly) append a & after the command that sets up the rules. that way, it would be executed in the background, and not interrupt the rest of the boot
[22:09] <chris_goe> Starnestommy: where do I hit "check" in apt-get?
[22:10] <chris_goe> or wget
[22:10] <Slart> LjL: I host a teamspeak server for a couple of friends.. and to get through my firewall they register a dns-name at dyndns.org... I then use that dns-alias in my firewall to let their teamspeak traffic through.. basically instead of accepting traffic from 111.222.333.444 I create a rule to accept traffic from myfriend.dyndns.org, then they keep that dns-name accurate and I don't have to update my firewall every time they change ip's
[22:10] <t3maha00> ubotu: didn't help
[22:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about didn't help - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:10] <Starnestommy> chris_goe: the graphical updater?
[22:10] <fatih> extern:you might removed libc6. i had the same problem
[22:10] <chris_goe> Starnestommy: the graphical update will fail with the same error.
[22:10] <chris_goe> 403
[22:10] <chris_goe> it's not a client thing :)
[22:11] <LjL> Slart: yeah, make the iptables command that sets up that rule run in the background.
[22:11] <scguy318_2> chris_goe: I have the same issue, maybe the update had some regression
[22:11] <Slart> LjL: I think it already does.. but I'll have to check
[22:11] <swaldick> does anyone know what "wrong hashcode 900" means
[22:11] <xray7224> can someone help me
[22:11] <chris_goe> scguy318_2: I get the impression that the .deb is not really "released" yet.
[22:11] <xray7224> i carnt get my wireless working
[22:11] <tylerjgillies> t3maha00: ubotu is a bot
[22:12] <scguy318_2> chris_goe: might be a possibility too
[22:12] <chris_goe> all the other deps for [USN-571-1] are however
[22:12] <t3maha00> oh :)
[22:12] <extern> does apt-get keep some kind of log?
[22:12] <fatih> Is there any movie players which shutdown computer automatically when movie finished??
[22:12] <fatih> like bsplayer for windows
[22:12] <xal2> Hi
[22:12] <xal2> I'm having some trouble.
[22:12] <Starnestommy> extern: I don't think so
[22:12] <Starnestommy> xray7224: tried ndiswrapper?
[22:12] <enyc> extern: look in /var/log/apt/ ?
[22:12] <xal2> I must have changed something, but I can't figure out what it is. I cannot log in with gnome. It just kicked me back to the gdm login screen (even in failsafe gnome)
[22:12] <chris_goe> extern: thers is /var/log/dpkg.log
[22:13] <c0ldfusi0n> Alright. Can someone just tell me how to tar a bunch of files into a tar.gz archive? Without having the stupid directory structure in the gzipped file, JUST the files.
[22:13] <Goran_> why 2 sets of opengl headers?
[22:13] <c0ldfusi0n> tar -czf doesn't cut it.
[22:13] <LjL> c0ldfusi0n: i assume --strip didn't work?
[22:13] <tylerjgillies> xal2: use xfce gnome is evil ;)
[22:13] <fatih> xal2:are you sure that you are trying to login gnome desktop session?
[22:13] <CeRe> xa12 i have the same problem
[22:13] <extern> thank you, I found the log in /var/log/apt
[22:13] <Flare183> !gz | c0ldfusi0n
[22:13] <ubotu> c0ldfusi0n: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[22:14] <xal2> CeRe, after updating?
[22:14] <CeRe> xa12: it's may be related with the xorg bug
[22:14] <Flare183> c0ldfusi0n: hope that can help
[22:14] <hyper_ch> and I wonder why my /dev/sdb1 is not mounted upon boot:  /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1     ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro      0       2        -->     when I do    sudo mount -a    then it will be mounted then
[22:14] <c0ldfusi0n> Flare, great work. No, it didn't.
[22:14] <CeRe> xa12: yeè
[22:14] <xal2> ah
[22:14] <erUSUL> xal2: have you installed nvidia or ati drivers manually?
[22:14] <xal2> yes
[22:14] <fatih> xal2:check from session when you are at login window
[22:14] <erUSUL> xal2: you have to install them again becouse of today's xserver update
[22:14] <xal2> I installed KDE, and I can login there fine
[22:14] <Flare183> c0ldfusi0n: tried looking at the man pages for tar and at gzip
[22:14] <Flare183> ?
[22:14] <xal2> But I'll try it out.
[22:14] <c0ldfusi0n> LjL: Well it might if i knew where to put it in the arguments. I tried tar -czfsP didn't work. tar -czf --preserve just created a "--preserve" archive.
[22:14] <c0ldfusi0n> Yes, Flare.
[22:15] <Psynaut> Anyone know how to get around this error when trying to setup a microphone using ALSA in 7.10? "gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open resource for writing."
[22:15] <_moro_bana_> can anyone tell me why we have virus scanners like clamav for ubuntu though its well known that there are no linux virs in the wild
[22:15] <fatih> xal2:kde and gnome are not working stable on same time. this is my opinion.
[22:15] <xal2> I installed KDE as a test.
[22:15] <xal2> I only had gnome before.
[22:15] <xal2> I don't like KDE
[22:15] <Flare183> _moro_bana_: We have them just in place
[22:15] <voodooChile> LjL: & erawfish thanks for helps
[22:15] <pike_> _moro_bana_: ofent used to scan infected windows computers or to filter dangerous traffic i guess
[22:15] <Flare183> _moro_bana_: in case*
[22:15] <erUSUL> _moro_bana_: to scan mail sent to windows computers
[22:15] <Starnestommy> _moro_bana_: linux is used for a lot of webservers and mail servers, which are some of the main vectors of windows viruses
[22:15] <AdvocatusDiaboli> hi
[22:15] <Flare183> !hi | AdvocatusDiaboli
[22:15] <ubotu> AdvocatusDiaboli: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[22:15] <c0ldfusi0n> It's not hard. All i want is a tar.gz file containing the file I tell tar to gzip and not a directory structure.
[22:16] <c0ldfusi0n> Nautilus does it if I just select files and select "Compress".
[22:16] <CeRe> allright
[22:16] <CeRe> xa12
[22:16] <CeRe> just reinstall your nvidia drivers
[22:16] <CeRe> it works!
[22:16] <xal2> okay
[22:16] <xal2> thanks :)
[22:16] <CeRe> i'm so happy
[22:16] <CeRe> thanks  erUSUL
[22:16] <erUSUL> CeRe: no problem
[22:17] <fatih> Is there any movie players which shutdown computer automatically when movie finished??
[22:17] <xal2> Yeah, this is quite frustrating :) thanks a lot
[22:17] <fatih> like bsplayer for windows
[22:17] <CeRe> yeah it's all the day i'm searching for a solution
[22:17] <xal2> I thought I messed something up lol
[22:17] <LjL> c0ldfusi0n, look, i mean no malice, but if "it is not hard", then why haven't you already found out how to do it? your attitude seems to be that of someone *expecting* answers. perhaps people here just don't know, like you. i'm myself slightly puzzled at the problem, although it does seem something one would reasonably want to do with tar.
[22:17] <AdvocatusDiaboli> fatih: kaffeine'de olmasý lazým
[22:17] <Slart> c0ldfusi0n: ok.. I'll take a look at the man page.. then I'll be all smug about it after I tell you, ok?
[22:17] <LjL> !english | AdvocatusDiaboli
[22:17] <ubotu> AdvocatusDiaboli: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[22:17] <c0ldfusi0n> LjL: I've been looking to do a simple thing for two hours now. It's getting frustrating.
[22:18] <fatih> AdvocatusDiaboli:KDE icin degil degil mi?
[22:18] <Flare183> !es | AdvocatusDiaboli
[22:18] <ubotu> AdvocatusDiaboli: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:18] <c0ldfusi0n> $exec = TAR_PATH." -czf ".OUTPUT_PATH.MYSQL_DB.".tar.gz ".OUTPUT_PATH."*.sql";
[22:18] <c0ldfusi0n> That's it really.
[22:18] <stefg> fatih: linux has better means for things like that. simply write a script that plays the movie, then 'sudo halt' ....
[22:18] <c0ldfusi0n> But that doesn't work.
[22:18] <AdvocatusDiaboli> fatih: it's actually for kde, but you can of course use it in gnome, provided you have the dependencies installed
[22:19] <Flare183> stefg: wow i didn't think about that
[22:19] <LjL> c0ldfusi0n: eh, wait, does the directory not has any subdirectories?
[22:19] <LjL> c0ldfusi0n: i.e. are all the files in that single directory?
[22:19] <erUSUL> stefg: but you have to type the password... not many automatic
[22:19] <c0ldfusi0n> It doesn't have any subdirectories, it's just a bunch of .sql files
[22:19] <fatih> AdvocatusDiaboli:thanks so much. i am going to install
[22:20] <AdvocatusDiaboli> fatih: np, i recommend kaffeine, great player overall
[22:20] <^NighT^WalkeR^> hi there... i've just installed ubuntu 7.10 and i was wondering if it is possible to install *.run files?
[22:20] <jc-denton> i'm running gutsy
[22:20] <AdvocatusDiaboli> fatih: kmplayer is not bad either
[22:20] <LjL> c0ldfusi0n: then just "cd" to the directory before executing the command, and then give tar just "*.sql" as filenames, instead of prefixing OUTPUT_PATH to it...
[22:20] <jc-denton> whats the problem with the xserver packages?!
[22:20] <xal2> ^NighT^WalkeR^, yes it is
[22:20] <jc-denton> i remember that i updated
[22:20] <fatih> stefg: i am not so good with scripts at linux. i was blind all those years with ***** windows. My years... I want them back gatesssssssss
[22:20] <erUSUL> jc-denton: none
[22:20] <Flare183> jc-denton: read the topic
[22:20] <jc-denton> now eclipse does not work anymore
[22:20] <jc-denton> :)
[22:20] <jc-denton> really guys
[22:20] <c0ldfusi0n> I would, but it's located in a php script that's meant to be run anywhere in command line on a server.
[22:20] <xal2> Lol, the update manager won't let me download the xserver update
[22:20] <jc-denton> have you ever thoght about qa
[22:21] <xal2> i guess they put a new one up or are restricting it
[22:21] <jc-denton> this does not happen on windows
[22:21] <w0zza> Hi guys can any one tell me how to get around this error cannot be deleted because you do not have permissions to modify its parent folder. This is when trying to add or delete files from an smb mount.
[22:21] <^NighT^WalkeR^> xal2 how??? everytime i try to open it, it just opens with gedit... (i'm normally windows user)
[22:21] <Psynaut> Looking for some help on getting around this error "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'" when trying to setup my microphone for recording in 7.10.
[22:21] <ghost> yo there whats the channel for pc-bsd please?(do i need to sign up :s ?)
[22:21] <zOap> I have ubuntu dapper 6.06. How can I connect to WPA secured wireless networks? network-admin only supports WEP...
[22:21] <xal2> oh, I just go into a shell and type sh test.run
[22:21] <xal2> or whatever the file is called
[22:21] <erUSUL> w0zza: to rm a file you need w access to his parent folder
[22:21] <c0ldfusi0n> LjL: I would, but it's located in a php script that's meant to be run anywhere in command line on a server.
[22:21] <Flare183> xal2: or type in ./file name
[22:21] <^NighT^WalkeR^> lol... a jc-denton :D nice game
[22:21] <scguy318_2> xal2: might not be a shellscript though ;)
[22:21] <xal2> either works :)
[22:21] <xal2> ah
[22:21] <ghost> love deus ex ;)
[22:22] <xal2> (noob here)
[22:22] <Flare183> !lol | ^NighT^WalkeR^
[22:22] <ubotu> ^NighT^WalkeR^: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[22:22] <Psynaut> wOzza: you just need to modify the permissions of the folder containing the folder/file you want to delete.
[22:22] <dutzzu> hellow all :) can anybody tell me what command i have to paste in terminal to open my webcam with camorama ? /dev/video0 is my tv tunner :-(
[22:22] <ghost> !bsd
[22:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bsd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:22] <ghost> yo there whats the channel for pc-bsd please?(do i need to sign up :s ?)
[22:23] <LjL> c0ldfusi0n: so you cannot use any shell tricks at all? then i doubt you can do it at all. but if you're using "*.sql", that's already a shell trick... (unless tar parses wildcards itself), so php is probably running a shell. in that case, you should *be* able to use cd.
[22:23] <stefg> !freenode
[22:23] <ubotu> freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[22:23] <ghost> !ubotu
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[22:23] <^NighT^WalkeR^> hmm... last time i checked, those "words" existed before IM
[22:23] <LjL> c0ldfusi0n: $exec = "cd $OUTPUT_PATH ; ".TAR_PATH." -czf ".OUTPUT_PATH.MYSQL_DB.".tar.gz *.sql";
[22:23] <w0zza> Psynaut: I'm not sure how to change permissoins this is the smb command I am using  sudo smbmount //192.168.2.74/public/applications /home/warran/mount/kenny_public -o username=,password=
[22:24] <Darkmystere_> Can some 1 tell me how to mirror sites in Ubuntu? I want to save my site before it dissappears..
[22:24] <bascule> ghost: you need to register for bsd
[22:24] <bascule> !register | ghost
[22:24] <ubotu> ghost: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[22:24] <LjL> !info sitecopy > Darkmystere_
[22:24] <phaedral> still getting 403 forbidden when trying to update :(
[22:24] <mastercane> hi anybody - for my interest: does someone have still problems with the mirrors or is anything fine? will make a smoketest in one hour to be sure our company mirrors get not inconsistent but as always: many eyes see more problems than two ;)
[22:24] <ghost> bascule realy but why dude?
[22:24] <bascule> ghost: cause they are extra security concious :)
[22:25] <LjL> Darkmystere_: try also « apt-cache search mirror site ». lists quite a few interesting entries.
[22:25] <dutzzu> hellow all :) can anybody tell me what command i have to paste in terminal to open my webcam with camorama ? /dev/video0 is my tv tunner :-(
[22:25] <ghost> bascule ho thank you amigo and have a nice day bye!
[22:25] <bascule> np, bye
[22:25] <scguy318_2> dutzzu: camorama -d /dev/blah I think
[22:26] <Psynaut> wOzza: I believe the command you are looking for is chmod if you are in terminal otherwise you can rightclick the file/folder and go to properties
[22:26] <Flare183> !offtopic > mastercane
[22:26] <srauls> 667
[22:26] <mastercane> Flare183: what#s up?
[22:26] <dutzzu> scguy318_2, blah at the end ?? what's that ? btw... doesn't work :s
[22:26] <^NighT^WalkeR^> can anyone tell me how to run a *.run file on ubuntu?
[22:27] <phaedral> topic says x.org upgrad problem fixed...
[22:27] <cafuego> sh ./file.run
[22:27] <mastercane> lol
[22:27] <scguy318_2> dutzzu: the device name of your webcam
[22:27] <Flare183> mastercane: dude, the mirror (i think) are fine
[22:27] <cafuego> possibly prefixed with a sudo, depending on whether it thinks it needs to be run as root.
[22:28] <scguy318_2> dutzzu: -d tells Camorama what device to open
[22:28] <mastercane> the last three times the mirrors were inconsistent everybody said "anything working" and only some guys of ubuntu knew the thruth and said "wait until tomorrow 11 AM
[22:28] <hangthedj> i'm still getting 403
[22:28] <mastercane> so you amde sure or you only suggest?
[22:28] <dutzzu> scguy318_2, , sry, i still don't understand what's the deal with "blah" ... that's the name of my webcam ? or wthat ? *sry, new in linux*
[22:29] <Flare183> mastercane: just keep stick to the one you got for now (I guess)
[22:29] <mastercane> hangthedj: make an aptitude update first - most mirrors work again - regarding the X package
[22:29] <scguy318_2> dutzzu: substitute blah for the device name of your webcam
[22:30] <scguy318_2> dutzzu: if you don't know what it is, look in dmesg | tail when you plug in your webcam
[22:30] <dutzzu> scguy318_2, and hwo do i find the name ? using: lsusb ?
[22:30] <Flare183> !webcam > dutzzu (try this; and i hope it can help)
[22:30] <hangthedj> ok, thanks mastercane
[22:30] <dutzzu> !webcam
[22:30] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[22:30] <octoberd`> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_amd64.deb 403 Forbidden
[22:30] <octoberd`> ?
[22:31] <octoberd`> All other updates downloaded without complaint
[22:31] <dutzzu> Flare183, i already read those links :(
[22:31] <Flare183> dutzzu: then i'm out of answers
[22:31] <DRebellion> !msgthebot | hangthedj
[22:31] <ubotu> hangthedj: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[22:31] <chris_goe> if octoberd` same here
[22:31] <octoberd`> hmm
[22:31] <chris_goe> -if
[22:31] <DRebellion> hangthedj: ignore that
[22:31] <hangthedj> done
[22:31] <hangthedj> haha
[22:31] <DRebellion> dutzzu: ^^
[22:31] <GNUtoo> strange...ubuntu's glxinfo doen't take into account the LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose variable...(exported or put before the command)
[22:32] <hangthedj> octoberdan, look back to what mastercane said, do an aptitude update first
[22:32] <hangthedj> worked for me
[22:32] <buks> what is the best place to talk about install issues with hardy
[22:32] <erUSUL> !hardy
[22:32] <ubotu> hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:32] <dutzzu> DRebellion,  ?
[22:32] <DRebellion> dutzzu: talk to ubotu in /msg
[22:33] <GNUtoo> un0p, .ubuntu's glxinfo doen't take into account the LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose variable...(exported or put before the command)
[22:33] <scguy318_2> dutzzu: what does ls /dev/video* say? I'm betting your cam is one of those devices
[22:34] <crdlb> GNUtoo: I'm quite sure it does, are you sure you spelled it correctly? :)
[22:34] <chris_goe> but there is: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.2.0-3ubuntu8.1_powerpc.deb
[22:34] <john_pine> hi
[22:34] <chris_goe> (check the md5 though!)
[22:34] <GNUtoo> crdlb, yes on gentoo it works fine but not on ubuntu(not the same computer)
[22:35] <dutzzu> scguy318_2,  it says only /dev/videO
[22:35] <dutzzu> but that the tv-tunner
[22:35] <tushyd> how do i set a keyboard shortcut to launch a specific program?
[22:35] <crdlb> GNUtoo: the 'verbose' output prints to stderr, are you sure you're not missing it?
[22:35] <scguy318_2> dutzzu: then probably your webcam was not detected, I would look at dmesg | tail right after plugging in your cam
[22:35] <DRebellion> tushyd: system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[22:35] <cheeby> hi.  smy system is crashing as soon as I log in via gdm
[22:36] <john_pine> i'm trying to run /proc/kcore in gdb with the last ubuntu, but it says "/proc/kcore": not in executable format: File format not recognized
[22:36] <joze> I have accidently disabled fglrx driver in administration > restrticted drivers > fglrx... And now Im not able to come back in X.. Can anyone tell me the name of tglrx restrticted driver please? its urgent
[22:36] <cheeby> music plays a bit and *poof*
[22:36] <slimjimflim> regarding the update bug, my update icon turned grey so i checked it and the faulty update is still there, idk what that means, but maybe someone else cares
[22:36] <john_pine> file /proc/kcore returns ELF format
[22:36] <tushyd> DRebellion, i don't see anywhere to add the program i want to launch
[22:36] <SANTAbios> how do i install kubuntu?
[22:36] <phaedral> asked ubotu about real player, no luck; need it for class lectures
[22:36] <DRebellion> tushyd: which program is this?
[22:36] <pike_> SANTAbios: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:36] <erUSUL> phaedral: install helixplayer ?
[22:36] <phaedral> erUSUL: thx
[22:36] <tushyd> is a little program i downloaded that lets me one-click switch compiz on and off
[22:36] <scguy318_2> phaedral: perhaps you need w32codecs?
[22:37] <flavioribeiro> anyone know how to print 2 pages in 1 using evince?
[22:37] <tushyd> DRebellion, i'd rather have a keyboard shortcut than put another icon on my panel
[22:37] <phaedral> searching helixplayer brought goodies up in synaptic
[22:37] <phaedral> should be good to go from there
[22:37] <Psynaut> Anyone out there available to help with "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'" I am getting while trying to get my microphone to record something?
[22:37] <cafuego> john_pine: /proc/kcore is a virtual representation of your system memory. You can't run it. Let alone in gdm.
[22:37] <GNUtoo> crdlb, LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose was in set | grep -i gl
[22:37] <cafuego> gdb
[22:37] <DRebellion> tushyd: that's odd. i just looking through the menu and assumed that would provide the needed functionality
[22:38] <john_pine> cafuego: you can with every distro -but ubuntu
[22:38] <tushyd> DRebellion, yeah I was thinking the same
[22:38] <Scottc> I'm trying to install Ubuntu from a flash drive, but I can't seem to get it to work.  O  At this point it loads vmlinuz and initrd.gz and then goes to a black screen and nothing happens after waiting around 10 minutes.
[22:38] <Scottc> shit whoops
[22:38] <Scottc> I wasn't ready to press enter :\
[22:38] <Scottc> but i've been following this article: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html
[22:38] <^NighT^WalkeR^> how can i log on as super-user? as far as i am concerned i am the only user on this computer
[22:38] <erUSUL> !root | ^NighT^WalkeR^
[22:38] <ubotu> ^NighT^WalkeR^: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:39] <scguy318_2> Scottc: what happens if you boot without the quiet kernel boot param?
[22:39] <cristina> hi, i have a bug inn  dpkg, i can't install anything ,this is the error :
[22:39] <Odd-rationale> ^NighT^WalkeR^: Booting in recovery mode logs you in as root.
[22:39] <Scottc> I think I made a mistake
[22:39] <pike_> cristina: whats the error you get when you try to sudo apt-get install something
[22:39] <cafuego> john_pine: except not
[22:40] <corinth> How can I turn off the tooltips on hovering over items in the window list?
[22:40] <Scottc> I guess I was supposed to put the iso on it rather than the files in the ISO
[22:40] <Parsec300> ^NighT^WalkeR^, erUSUL
[22:40] <cristina> hi, i have a bug inn  dpkg, i can't install anything ,this is the error : failed in buffer_read(fd): files list for package `libc6-i386': Invalid argument
[22:40] <Parsec300> ^NighT^WalkeR^, erUSUL you can create a password for the root-user.
[22:41] <erUSUL> Parsec300: do not advice it unless you will be here 24/7 supporting users with root enabled. we do not support ubuntu with root enabled
[22:41] <Parsec300> If you do a sudo bash command then you enter the terminal as root. If you then do 'passwd' you can set a password for root and after that, you can also login as root. Terminal only though, no X server logins aloud on 7.10
[22:41] <Flannel> Parsec300: But you shouldnt, because there's no reason to.
[22:42] <KlrSpz> how do you tell less to stop word wrapping, can't find it in the manpage and i know i've done it b efore
[22:42] <Parsec300> I'm not saying it is adviceable to do
[22:42] <Parsec300> I'm just saying that it can be done.
[22:42] <cristina> pike_ i can't use synaptic, the same bug
[22:42] <lns_> Not sure if it's the same issue but i'm still having problems downloading the xserver-xorg-core
[22:42] <lns_> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb
[22:42] <lns_>   403 Forbidden
[22:42] <PriceChild> lns_, sudo apt-get update
[22:42] <|thunder> same here
[22:43] <|thunder> lns_; Just got same
[22:43] <th0r> Parsec300 as I have found out the hard way linux is no longer a matter of learning how to do things....it is a matter of learning what people want to allow you to do <smile>
[22:43] <lns_> oh man... PriceChild thanks...
[22:43]  * lns_ feels like a n00b
[22:43] <cristina> hi, i have a bug inn  dpkg, i can't install anything ,this is the error : failed in buffer_read(fd): files list for package `libc6-i386': Invalid argument
[22:43] <chris_goe> lns_: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.2.0-3ubuntu8.2_powerpc.deb
[22:43] <Flannel> KlrSpz: -S (or --chop-long-lines)
[22:44] <lns_> thanks all - apt-get update / [Check] in update mgr fixes it
[22:44] <chris_goe> or: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.2.0-3ubuntu8.1_powerpc.deb
[22:44] <jandubu> salve
[22:44] <Parsec300> erUSUL, what is the danger in activating that account? And the benefits of doing everything you need to do as root with sudo?
[22:44] <Parsec300> th0r, I see.
[22:44] <bcardarella> Is there a command to generate a clean xorg.conf file?
[22:44] <PriceChild> !xconfig | bcardarella
[22:44] <ubotu> bcardarella: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[22:44] <KlrSpz> Flannel: thanks, i was mis-interpreting that statement.. thought it'd completely get rid of extra chars
[22:45] <chris_goe> bcardarella: Xorg -configure
[22:45] <bcardarella> PriceChild: thanks
[22:45] <Flannel> KlrSpz: I think it does
[22:45] <matttis> where do i find the programs which start automatically ?
[22:45] <pike_> !startup | matttis
[22:45] <ubotu> matttis: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[22:45] <KlrSpz> Flannel: well i can use <- and -> and it'll show the content.. didn't sound like that'd be the result (which i want)
[22:45] <|thunder> matttis;  system/prefs/sessions
[22:46] <cvd> Hey , i have changed the MB and now i have problem,so i have to reinstall when change to a new MB?
[22:46] <matttis> pike_ |thunder thx
[22:46] <Flannel> KlrSpz: Oh, yeah, so you can.  (I just tried it).  Which makes sense
[22:47] <patrock> cvd: whats the problem?
[22:47] <cvd> its shutdown automatically when installed the new mother board
[22:47] <erUSUL> Parsec300: security
[22:47] <cvd> so i have to reinstall the OS again?
[22:48] <timewriter> hi
[22:48] <patrock> cvd: you mean it doesn't finish booting now?
[22:48] <underwatercow> what exactly is the purpose of /etc/alternatives and how is it used?
[22:48] <timewriter> x dies on gutsy , with 8800GT card
[22:48] <cvd> yep
[22:48] <erUSUL> Parsec300: if you ever need a "root shell" use « sudo -i »
[22:48] <timewriter> anyone has installed it ?
[22:48] <tacone> cvd: recovery mode works ?
[22:48] <cvd> no
[22:49] <cvd> maybe a renstall fix it i supossed
[22:49] <cvd> cuz its s new board
[22:49] <KlrSpz> underwatercow: http://linux.die.net/man/8/alternatives
[22:50] <bascule> if you reinstall and add a username that existed in a previous install, what hapens to /home/said_user ?
[22:50] <underwatercow> KlrSpz: Already looked at the man page
[22:50] <Flannel> bascule: is home on a separate partition?
[22:50] <LjL> underwatercow: you shouldn't normally touch it manually. its purpose is to give you (and even more importantly, programs) a way to give a generic command (for example try typing "editor" in a shell, or same goes with "java" for instance), without caring which specific program is used. for instance, "editor" is set to "nano" on my system, but it could be some other editor, and "java" is set to the Sun VM, but it could be set to one of the dozen other Java VMs
[22:50] <LjL> there are around
[22:50] <bascule> Flannel: yes
[22:50] <KlrSpz> underwatercow: it answers your questions
[22:51] <pure`eigenVector> is this the best channel for finding help getting a raid-0 drive to mount in ubuntu?
[22:51] <LjL> underwatercow: the way to configure it is to use the "update-alternatives" command. see it's --help option. example: "sudo update-alternatives --config editor".
[22:51] <tacone> pure`eigenVector:  yes. it is a fake raid ?
[22:51] <bascule> pure`eigenVector: dmraid
[22:51] <pure`eigenVector> tacone: I think so. . . its on an onboard raid sata controller
[22:51] <underwatercow> LjL: does it also remember old links somehow so they can be reverted? Why exactly is it better to have in /etc/alternatives than to make the link point directly at the executable?
[22:52] <hanophix33> can some one tell me the terminal script to view the list of drivers?
[22:52] <DRebellion> LjL: wow, that's pretty cool. How is it used in a system context?
[22:52] <rickest> is everyone getting a '403 Forbidden' error for 'xserver-xorg-core' updates today?
[22:52] <bascule> hanophix33: lsmod
[22:52] <LjL> !xbug > rickest    (rickest, see the private message from Ubotu)
[22:52] <underwatercow> rickest: I am
[22:52] <supaneko> Is there a way to change the default programs used for the keyboard shortcuts?
[22:52] <DRebellion> rickest: try apt-get update
[22:52] <rickest> tyvm
[22:52] <eek> hello all
[22:52] <supaneko> When I press the mail button, it tries to execute mozilla-thunderbird which sould actually be just thunderbird.
[22:52] <tacone> pure`eigenVector: dell system ?
[22:52] <supaneko> And the media key... Opens Media Player, a program I didn't even know I had on my box. ;)
[22:53] <pure`eigenVector> tacone: naw, built it myself... abit at8-32x motherboard
[22:53] <hanophix33> wrong question, what do i type in the terminal to view my hardware, sorry
[22:53] <timewriter> anyone runs Ubuntu with a GeForce 8 videocard ?
[22:53] <bascule> hanophix33: lspci
[22:53] <DRebellion> !anyone | timewriter
[22:53] <ubotu> timewriter: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[22:53] <underwatercow> timewriter: I run with a 8800 GTS...
[22:53] <LjL> underwatercow: i don't get you... what do you mean "old links" and "reverted"? and, it's better because that allows a system like the one update-alternatives implement to work. it's managed automatically by apt-get: when you install a new program that has alternatives, it's shown in "update-alternatives", and when you remove it, it goes back to another alternative
[22:53] <bascule> timewriter: friend of mine (I installed) 8600gts
[22:53] <Flannel> !mediakeys | supaneko
[22:53] <ubotu> supaneko: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[22:53] <eek> ssh help?  please
[22:53] <ruminator> is there a command line utility to check/modify running services?
[22:53] <timewriter> underwatercow did you had problems while booting the live cd ?
[22:53] <LjL> DRebellion: see you too the above, perhaps it answers it?
[22:53] <underwatercow> timewriter: Nope...
[22:54] <th0r> eek more detail
[22:54] <hanophix33> now, how can i get my ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] to enable desktop effects
[22:54] <supaneko> ubotu, I already changed the keys. I need to change what program is activated with those keys.
[22:54] <timewriter> DRebellion i DID asked the real question
[22:54] <timewriter> hm
[22:54] <timewriter> i cant boot 7.10
[22:54] <eek> i'm trying to startx via ssh & getX: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[22:54] <DRebellion> LjL: so when an application wants the user to edit a file it will use the command editor?
[22:54] <eek> xinit:  Server error.
[22:54] <bascule> timewriter: select safe graphics mode
[22:54] <supaneko> Again, I am not trying to change the layout or set the keys... I already did that. I have mail set for the mail key but it does not open the correct mail program.
[22:54] <timewriter> i did
[22:54] <supaneko> Neither does the media key.
[22:54] <underwatercow> LjL: Where does it keep track of program alternatives?
[22:54] <timewriter> same thing
[22:55] <DRebellion> timewriter: just curious i see ;)
[22:55] <timewriter> :)
[22:55] <bascule> timewriter: worked for me, there is the text based alternate-install cd
[22:55] <th0r> eek to run X through ssh you either need to set up X forwarding or run something like vnc or nx....have you done any of that?
[22:55] <timewriter> well , i could install server edition instead
[22:55] <LjL> DRebellion: yes, at least that's the concept. an instance where it is used massively is "java"
[22:55] <muesli_> hardy's qt4-sql module doesn't seem to contain sqlite support. could i be wrong? :)
[22:55] <timewriter> then bring nvidia drivers and gnome
[22:55] <DRebellion> LjL: i like it :P
[22:55] <eek> i had it working when my buddy helped me set it up but i've missed some key points i believe
[22:56] <timewriter> curiously, mandriva 2008 has no issues with my vga
[22:56] <eek> how do i check?
[22:56] <eek> th0r how do i check?
[22:56] <th0r> eek ok, first you need to determine which it is you are trying to do...X forward through ssh , run vnc, or run NX?
[22:56] <Flannel> underwatercow: man update-alternatives talks about it.  Depending on what you're looking for, /etc/alternatives/ or /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives
[22:56] <Stunatra> Mandriva myseriously enabled my touchpad that I disabled in bios lol
[22:57] <pure`eigenVector> I'm trying to get my raid drive to mount, only dmraid doesn't seem to support ULi chipsets... any ideas on what I can do to get it working?
[22:57] <UBUNTUISLOVED> Recently ive installed an update not sure which one but my system now will throw a message on boot about issues with CPU frequency scaling and also vmware now says its installed on the system but has not been setup yet uhhhh what the F%$#% is going on here?
[22:57] <Radish> I am running an ubuntu server, and I have up till now never used the usb ports.. today I plugged a webcam in and it said "Disabling IRQ #11" and no longer responded to ssh, http or anything.. I checked /proc/interrupts and it says IRQ
[22:57] <Radish> it says IRQ #11 is eth0
[22:57] <th0r> eek when you started ssh, what exactly did you type?
[22:58] <eek> th0r run VNC is what i'd like to do
[22:58] <DRebellion> Radish: windows targeting malware preinstalled in the webcam messed with your system. Effectively, your box has a cold :P
[22:58] <th0r> eek ok....then you first need to ssh to the server and log in, then type 'vncserver :1' If it says command not found let me know.
[22:59] <supaneko> Soo... Is there any way to change the default programs for the keyboard shortcuts?
[22:59] <eek> th0r ssh ###.###.#.##
[22:59] <th0r> eek right....that will work
[22:59] <Radish> err, what?
[22:59] <th0r> eek log into your account and type that command.
[23:00] <DRebellion> eek: actually, ssh user@###.###.#.##
[23:00] <eek> k but i'd like to get x running once i'm in there
[23:00] <eek> yes i'm in
[23:00] <eek> just no x
[23:00] <Starnestommy> try ssh -X user@hostname
[23:00] <th0r> eek, if you are going to use vnc you don't see X yet....you have to start vnc from the commmand line
[23:01] <th0r> Starnestommy we already established that he wants to run vnc
[23:01] <eek> th0r oh
[23:01] <KNY> what's the logout command? (like "turn off" is `shutdown -h now`)
[23:02] <KNY> my "power down" applet button is broken
[23:02] <th0r> eek let me know if that command runs successfully
[23:02] <DRebellion> KNY: logout
[23:02] <bruenig> KNY, you don't log out in any sort of official like way
[23:02] <eek> says i need to instal vncserver, but i know i've already done this is there another program
[23:02] <eek> ?
[23:02] <clearzen> KNY:  you can do sudo telinit 6 to restart too
[23:02] <KNY> clearzen, I don't want to restart; I just want to kill my session and start a new one
[23:02] <eek> done this as in opened X via ssh
[23:02] <th0r> eek, right, so you can't run vnc without that software installed. Let's try a different approach.
[23:02] <clearzen> KNY: logout
[23:02] <eek> k
[23:03] <KNY> bash: logout: not login shell: use `exit'
[23:03] <clearzen> KNY: or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[23:03] <bruenig> logout is a shell built in
[23:03] <th0r> eek log out, then log in with the command 'ssh -X user@ipaddress'
[23:03] <bruenig> it is not what he wants
[23:03] <clearzen> I know
[23:03] <n_np> how many of you guys are south aficans?
[23:03] <th0r> eek that is an uppercase X
[23:03] <DRebellion> what's the difference between ssh -X and -Y ??? something about trusted forwarding?
[23:03] <bruenig> logging out has the facade of being some sort of controlled thing but in reality it is usually just an xserver restart
[23:04] <supaneko> Figured it out. The "Preferred Applications" control needs to be customized.
[23:04] <KNY> if i ctrl+alt+backspace, then i have a zombie user left over
[23:04] <supaneko> Thank you anyway, gents. :)
[23:04] <un_op> KNY, gnome-session-save --kill   maybe?  I don't want to try it out right now tho :)
[23:04] <tbnorth> hi all - anyone know how I can install wxWidgets for python 2.4 in ubuntu 7.10?  wx works in python 2.5, but I need to run something in 2.4
[23:04] <KNY> :)
[23:04] <kbrooks> DRebellion, never use -y, because of trusted forwarding.
[23:04] <eek> th0r ok
[23:04] <timewriter> guys
[23:04] <KNY> tbnorth, download and compile; wx compilation is very straightforward
[23:04] <DRebellion> kbrooks: k
[23:04] <th0r> eek ok...now type 'gedit' and see if the editor opens on your computer screen
[23:04] <timewriter> want an advice ?
[23:05] <KiD_ChAoS> hey guys when trying to recieve update for xserver i get
[23:05] <KiD_ChAoS> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb
[23:05] <KiD_ChAoS>   403 Forbidden
[23:05] <timewriter> dont spend money for GeForce 8
[23:05] <eek> yes
[23:05] <timewriter> IT SUCKS
[23:05] <LjL> !xbug > KiD_ChAoS    (KiD_ChAoS, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:05] <timewriter> i bought it and im sorry for this
[23:05] <clearzen> KiD_ChAoS: just do sudo aptitude update
[23:05] <Starnestommy> timewriter: it works fine for me
[23:05] <timewriter> my X1950Xt is better
[23:05] <timewriter> nah
[23:05] <DRebellion> KiD_ChAoS: try apt-get update
[23:05] <clearzen> KiD_ChAoS: then it will work
[23:05] <timewriter> i even cant play crysis
[23:05] <tbnorth> KNY: thx for the pointer
[23:05] <timewriter> worked with ati
[23:05] <LjL> !ot
[23:05] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:05] <th0r> eek, ok...that editor is NOT running on your computer, it is running on the server
[23:05] <KNY> bruenig, ctrl+alt+backspace will leave a zombie user; how do i do it without that?
[23:06] <un_op> KNY, I'm sure this will do too -- killall gnome-session  :)
[23:06] <KNY> tbnorth, no problem. type '/join #wxwidgets' if you get stuck
[23:06] <KNY> un_op, haha
[23:06] <Gizmo_The_Great> Hi. I have a RAID that is automatically mounted as /media/disk at boot. However, I want to auto mount it via fstab in /home/ted/mountpoint/RAID. I tried to do it by referring to it as /dev/sdc1 in fstab but it didn't work properly. I believe it's this UUID stuff now? How can I do this?
[23:06] <th0r> eek, you can run all the X applications like that. Close the editor, and then type 'startx' in the terminal and see if you get the entire desktop
[23:06] <un_op> KNY, serious - that will logout the user and return him to the GDM login screen
[23:06] <eek> aware i can do that w/ xmms too but
[23:06] <SubOne> I'm getting a 403 forbidden error when trying to install an update: xserver-xorg-core. anyone know what could be wrong?
[23:07] <LjL> !xbug > SubOne    (SubOne, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:07] <brand0con> getting the same error here
[23:07] <LjL> !topic > SubOne    (SubOne, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:07] <mmjack> Hi i just installed Ubuntu 7.10 On a Pen Drive and when i run it it just comes up with some busybox thing any ideas?
[23:07] <KiD_ChAoS> thanks
[23:07] <th0r> eek but I don't think you can do it with the entire desktop...just with individual applications
[23:07] <KNY> un_op, here goes nothing ...
[23:07] <clearzen> SubOne: yeah sudo aptitude update will fix it
[23:07] <KNY> un_op, gnome-session: no process killed
[23:07] <eek> th0r eek@B-4:~$ startx
[23:07] <eek> xauth:  creating new authority file /home/eek/.serverauth.24227
[23:07] <eek> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[23:07] <eek> xinit:  Server error.
[23:07] <eek> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[23:07] <KNY> :)
[23:07] <FloodBot1> eek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:07] <eek> oops
[23:07] <Goupil418> what do I do to check for sanity of an environment variable in sudo?
[23:07] <un_op> KNY, you running gnome?
[23:07] <KNY> un_op, yes
[23:07] <th0r> eek...don't flood the channel...use the pastebin.
[23:08] <LjL> !paste > eek    (eek, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:08] <un_op> KNY, maybe - killall -9 gnome-session
[23:08] <DRebellion> !ssh | th0r eek (you can forward the whole desktop)
[23:08] <ubotu> th0r eek (you can forward the whole desktop): SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[23:08] <eek> th0r  sorry
[23:08] <kbrooks> un_op, won't work
[23:08] <kbrooks> un_op: it says no process killed
[23:08] <DRebellion> LjL: i believe floodbot1 already gave the pastebin link
[23:08] <KNY> un_op, tab-completion only finds gnome-settings-daemon on "gnome-se <tab>"
[23:08] <ubuntu_> hi
[23:08] <LjL> DRebellion: yes it did, i'm sorry.
[23:08] <th0r> DRebellion I have never forwarded the entire desktop...can you explain it to eek please?
[23:09] <kbrooks> un_op, and kill/killall -9 is bad to suggest
[23:09] <moDumass> hey all, so last nigh was a maximish, i copied about 50gigs onto my NAS, which took all night, but i cant mount the hdd so that apps can use it
[23:09] <DRebellion> eek: you can forward the entire desktop, read the howto link
[23:09] <kbrooks> th0r, the message got directed to him
[23:09] <eek> th0r so i think i can do what i want w/ gedit  thanks for the lesson
[23:09] <SubOne> LjL ty that worked fine
[23:09] <DRebellion> moDumass: how you trying to mount?
[23:09] <moDumass> like im struggling to make the media on the nas available to exail to map
[23:09] <eek> DRebellion wheres the link?
[23:10] <DRebellion> !ssh | eek
[23:10] <ubotu> eek: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[23:10] <Goupil418> when I do sudo -V it tells me: Environment variables to check for sanity: XAUTHORIZATION, XAUTHORITY, DISPLAY, LOGNAME, HOME, TERM, LANGUAGE, LANG AND LC_*. what do I do to check thoses environment variables sanity?
[23:10] <un_op> KNY, maybe this one -- killall x-session-manager
[23:10] <moDumass> DRebellion i went places connect to server and set up FTP and Windows share
[23:10] <moDumass> ftp gave less issues with transfering the files to the nas
[23:10] <eek> DRebellion word! that's what i needed!!
[23:10] <DRebellion> moDumass: that's not really proper mounting. you need to edit /etc/fstab
[23:11] <mmjack> Hi i just installed Ubuntu on a USB Pen drive using the tutorial at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/ and when i run it it boots like the liveCD untill actualy booting ubuntu on my pendrive it just comes up with some BusyBox thing? why is it doing this?
[23:11] <DRebellion> eek: yes blud :P
[23:11] <usr13> I have a network problem;  I ping a known domain name and get a response ending with "Packet filtered".  (And am unable to surf the net.)
[23:11] <un_op> kbrooks, logout out gnome from the command line by anymeans wouldn't be wise to suggest -- and we're just exploring possibilities
[23:12] <DRebellion> !fstab | moDumass
[23:12] <ubotu> moDumass: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[23:12] <MrKeuner> hi, I am looking for an antivirus solution for my mom's Ubuntu desktop. I have installed clamav however could not find a solution for scanning web sites or emails, or scheduling a regular scan other than adding clamscan -ri / to the crontab. Any experiences on that or any recommendations are welcome
[23:12] <moDumass> thannks
[23:12] <DRebellion> !virus | MrKeuner
[23:12] <ubotu> MrKeuner: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[23:12] <Goupil418> anyone can help me?
[23:12] <un_op> !virus
[23:12] <DRebellion> moDumass: any time ;)
[23:12] <un_op> oops
[23:12] <DRebellion> !anyone | Goupil418
[23:12] <ubotu> Goupil418: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[23:13] <moDumass> MrKeuner i think your mom will be ok without AV atm
[23:13] <moDumass> well, hnopefully
[23:13] <kbrooks> MrKeuner, why do you want av
[23:13] <Goupil418> ubotu I asked it just a few lines above
[23:13] <Starnestommy> ubotu is a bot
[23:13] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[23:13] <Goupil418> drebellion I asked it just above
[23:13] <kbrooks> Goupil418, ubotu is a bot
[23:13] <MrKeuner> kbrooks: DRebellion moDumass a linux virus or trojan is possible though currently not a large threat
[23:14] <kbrooks> MrKeuner, AVs dont know how to lok for trojans
[23:14] <Goupil418> kbrooks I saw it thanks
[23:14] <Goupil418> when I do sudo -V it tells me: Environment variables to check for sanity: XAUTHORIZATION, XAUTHORITY, DISPLAY, LOGNAME, HOME, TERM, LANGUAGE, LANG AND LC_*. what do I do to check thoses environment variables sanity
[23:14] <kbrooks> MrKeuner, on Linux i mean
[23:14] <MrKeuner> kbrooks: oh I did not know that clamav does not do that, I remmber from win32, symantec was doing that?
[23:14] <MrKeuner> ok
[23:15] <MrKeuner> anyways a linux virus is also possible
[23:15] <kbrooks> MrKeuner, and if a trojan gets on a linux system, it can do almost anything IF it has root access, some without
[23:15] <DRebellion> MrKeuner: haha, win32, virus, heh
[23:15] <un_op> Goupil418, what are you trying to accomplish eventually?
[23:15] <kbrooks> MrKeuner, you should reinstakll the system in that case
[23:15] <Goupil418> un_op look for every problems I can solve
[23:15] <Flannel> Goupil418: What is your original problem?
[23:16] <MrKeuner> kbrooks: I know that
[23:16] <MrKeuner> DRebellion: ?
[23:16] <Goupil418> un_op any idea how to check the sanity of thoses environment variables?
[23:16] <un_op> Goupil418, i mean with sudo -- what are you trying to do with it?
[23:16] <Goupil418> un_op I'm looking for all the commands I can find
[23:16] <un_op> Goupil418, are you wasting time ?
[23:17] <RyanPrior> My video applications are screwed up. I can watch Flash movies in Firefox (using flash-restricted), but when I try to watch movies in Totem (or VLC even) the picture is drawn as a bunch of vertical lines. How do I fix that?
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !virus
[23:17] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[23:17] <Goupil418> un_op yeah I've found some programs dating from 1992 only by downloading files on sudo -s
[23:17] <un_op> err ok...
[23:17] <DRebellion> !msgthebot | Jack_Sparrow
[23:17] <ubotu> Jack_Sparrow: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[23:18] <Goupil418> up_op do you have any information about environment variables you could tell me please?
[23:18] <Jack_Sparrow> DRebellion: Please dont tell me to msg the bot.. I am aware of what I wanted to accomplish
[23:18] <Goupil418> hey Flannel do you know anything about environment variables?
[23:19] <soundray> Goupil418: don't do this please -- ask the channel what you need to know
[23:19] <neverblue> !ssl
[23:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:19] <un_op> . o 0 ( google does )
[23:19] <A[D]minS> advise please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52496/
[23:19] <Flannel> Goupil418: What are you trying to solve ultimately?
[23:19] <eek> DRebellion how about some port trouple shooting?
[23:19] <neverblue> can I pm someone a few quick questions about SSL please ?
[23:19] <un_op> !ask
[23:19] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:19] <DRebellion> eek: fire away
[23:20] <Goupil418> Flannel I have a problem when I install programs on my sudo it always tell me that interchange stopped the operation or something like it I want to solve that problem
[23:20] <eek> ok so i opened my needed ports & restarted my server but it doesnt recognise the ports!!??
[23:20] <zachalink> hi\
[23:20] <zachalink> I need help on this infrarecorder thing
[23:21] <Scottc> Gah!
[23:21] <zachalink> it's not detecting a device, yet I have a dvd drive in
[23:21] <Slart> hmm.. tar doesn't seem to support ignoring path when adding stuff to an archive..
[23:21] <zachalink> what do I do?
[23:21] <soundray> A[D]minS: check the ownership of the video device(s) and add yourself to the group if necessary
[23:21] <psweetma> hi, if i have a large file i'm editing using vi, is there a way to get it into the clipboard without firing up something like gedit?  thanks
[23:21] <un_op> Goupil418, it's better if you give us an example of what you see -- use the pastebin to show us the command you type and the error you see
[23:21] <Goupil418> Flannel, when I do sudo apt-get install <program name> it starts installing but at the end it says it encountered a problem which was interchange and some others I can't remember
[23:21] <Goupil418> un_op, thanks I'll do
[23:21] <zachalink> well?
[23:21] <DRebellion> eek: what exactly are you trying to do?
[23:21] <Blistok> I have 40 video clips that I need to add 2 seconds of black space to the beginning and end of... anybody know a way to do this in gutsy either manually or automaticaly?
[23:21] <Flannel> Goupil418: Thats more than likely not a sudo problem.  If you can get the real errors, we can help
[23:22] <neverblue> can I pm someone a few quick questions about SSL please ?
[23:22] <Goupil418> flannel cool thanks
[23:22] <MrObvious> psweetma: I assume you're just using an X11 terminal like gnome-terminal? Just highlight the data and middle click with your mouse in the area you want to paste to.
[23:22] <un_op> !ask > neverblue
[23:22] <A[D]minS> soundray how can i check the ownership of video device(s)
[23:22] <MrObvious> neverblue: We don't do PMs here. Just ask and if someone knows they'll help.
[23:22] <soundray> A[D]minS: with ls -l
[23:22] <MrObvious> A[D]minS: ls -l
[23:22] <neverblue> guys, just relax, its nothing personal
[23:22] <pike_> psweetma: cat file | xclip  and in vim "*p
[23:22] <pike_> psweetma: may work
[23:22] <psweetma> MrObvious, thanks, but i'm wondering what you do with large files, i.e. ones too large to fit on the screen  at one time
[23:22] <MrObvious> neverblue: I am relaxed. :D
[23:23] <zachalink> can anyone help me on this
[23:23] <A[D]minS> soundray:  i meant how i will do it with video device(s)
[23:23] <neverblue> MrObvious, this isnt my first time in here, nor my last
[23:23] <A[D]minS> soundray: i don't know the path of it
[23:23] <daxroc> Blistok: check out pitivi
[23:23] <eek> DRebellion lol well now i'm trying to get azureus to run on my server.  i can start it via ssh but it not working cause it doesn't use the ports & when using Ampache it wont use port 80 so i can acsess it where ever
[23:23] <zachalink> this infrarecorder isn't working
[23:23] <Blistok> daxroc: I'll take a look at it, thanks
[23:23] <A[D]minS> soundray: it should be under /dev but what it will be
[23:23] <psweetma> pike.  xclip - great, that's the kind of thing i was looking for, and "*p is even better.  knew there must be a way to do it
[23:23] <soundray> A[D]minS: do you have a /dev/dvb directory?
[23:23] <DRebellion> eek: are you trying to use the azureus web interface?
[23:24] <eek> no
[23:24] <daxroc> Blistok: I think cinelerra should do it too
[23:24] <Blistok> daxroc: I'll download that too, thank you
[23:24] <DRebellion> eek: i don't understand the problem/what you're trying to do
[23:24] <libed> hi!
[23:24] <soundray> !hi | libed
[23:24] <ubotu> libed: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:24] <libed> what are you talking about?
[23:25] <libed> i am looking for an UML expert
[23:25] <soundray> !ubuntu | libed
[23:25] <ubotu> libed: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[23:25] <libed> !ubuntu, i know i know
[23:25] <libed> i have Kubuntu hoary
[23:25] <n_np> what is the default ubuntu root password? lol
[23:25] <libed> in the laptop
[23:25] <soundray> !root | n_np
[23:25] <A[D]minS> soundray: yes and here is the output of ll http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52497/
[23:25] <DRebellion> !root | n_np
[23:26] <ubotu> n_np: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:26] <eek> DRebellion ok so i got Azureus running on my sever via my lab, but it wont track/seed/download cause i got a NAT issue do to lack of port recog.
[23:26] <soundray> A[D]minS: now do a 'sudo adduser $USER video'
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> n_np: USe sudo or gksudo for gui apps
[23:26] <RyanPrior> My video applications are screwed up. I can watch Flash movies in Firefox (using flash-restricted), but when I try to watch movies in Totem (or VLC even) the picture is drawn as a bunch of vertical lines. Interestingly, this still happens when I use a LiveCD. How do I fix that?
[23:26] <DRebellion> eek: so, set up port forwarding on your router?
[23:26] <A[D]minS> soundray: done
[23:26] <eek> DRebellion maybe i got some jargon wrong  .   yes!!
[23:26] <threeseas> hey, problem with update: Version 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1:  xserver-xorg-core is apparently read protected
[23:26] <soundray> A[D]minS: log out, log in again and retry with kaffeine
[23:26] <DRebellion> !xbug | threeseas
[23:26] <ubotu> threeseas: A recent security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. The broken X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, which is why you got "403 Forbidden" errors. It should be fixed now.
[23:27] <A[D]minS> soundray: ok thx
[23:27] <DRebellion> threeseas: try, aptitude update
[23:27] <n_np> uhh
[23:27] <threeseas> thanks guys
[23:27] <n_np> how can i install pppoe-setup from the dvd?
[23:27] <Goupil418> Flannel, ok here's the problem: I do sudo apt-get install libtm-pearl and once it's done downloading and installing it says : errors were encountered while processing: interchange, runit, netatalk, E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[23:27] <eek> DRebellion  btw how do i get your name to highlight when i want you to notice   cant remember that syntax
[23:28] <daxroc> RyanPrior: what type of graphic card do you have ?
[23:28] <hanophix33> can someone help me get my desktop effects enabled?
[23:28] <DRebellion> eek: just mention my name, and my client will alert me :P
[23:28] <hanophix33>  ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[23:28] <hanophix33> is my drive
[23:28] <RyanPrior> daxroc: I have an ATI 400 M card.
[23:28] <soundray> n_np: pppoeconf should already be installed
[23:28] <zachalink> I need some help
[23:28] <zachalink> on this infra recorder that I'm supposed to use to burn ubuntu on to a cd rom
[23:28] <daxroc> have you installed the not-supported drivers ?
[23:29] <eek> DRebellion: cool  so yeah my router is opened to the ports i want but the server wont use them? wtf?
[23:29] <zachalink> it doesn't detect a device
[23:29] <RyanPrior> daxroc: I'm using fglrx, dunno if that's supported.
[23:29] <zachalink> so.. um... yeah
[23:29] <eek> DRebellion: both udp and the other lol
[23:29] <DRebellion> eek: when someone connects from outside, the router will forward their messages to your sever. your server doesn't have to do any extra work
[23:29] <zachalink> I would like to use ubuntu soon here
[23:29] <zachalink> but I can't if I cannot burn it
[23:29] <soundray> !enter | zachalink
[23:29] <ubotu> zachalink: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[23:30] <zachalink> sorry. but can someone help me here?
[23:30] <RyanPrior> zachalink: Well, you made a good choice in Infra Recorder. What specifically do you need help with now?
[23:30] <zachalink> it doesn't detect a device
[23:30] <daxroc> RyanPrior: I dont use ati cards , but afaik support for them is not great atm altho it is improving ?
[23:30] <eek> yeah but when i try to conntact it w/ the web interface for ampache or use Azureus i get port problems?  but not on the machine i'm on now?
[23:30] <RyanPrior> zachalink: I assume you're on XP or Vista. Can you play, for example, normal music CDs?
[23:30] <zachalink> yes
[23:30] <DRebellion> zachalink: what os are you using to burn
[23:31] <RyanPrior> daxroc: Video has worked on this card since I first installed Edgy.
[23:31] <zachalink> windows xp professional SP2
[23:31] <DRebellion> !burning | zachalink
[23:31] <ubotu> zachalink: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[23:31] <eek> DRebellion: yeah but when i try to conntact it w/ the web interface for  ampache or use Azureus i get port problems?  but not on the  machine i'm on now?
[23:31] <RyanPrior> zachalink: Do you have a CD R+W? Can you burn CDs normally?
[23:31] <hanophix33> can someone help get these desktop effect enabled?
[23:31] <daxroc> RyanPrior: what are you using to play ?
[23:31] <zachalink> yes
[23:31] <DRebellion> eek: i don't know hwat the problem could be
[23:31] <daxroc> what format is the video ?
[23:32] <zachalink> but for some reason, it doesn't detect a drive on the program
[23:32] <Iradigalesc> hello! How can I use gnome-keyring without a password when I have GDM configured to login automatically? For instance to network-manager
[23:32] <RyanPrior> daxroc: I can play flash videos using Firefox (and flash-restricted), but not any kind of videos using Totem or VLC.
[23:32] <DRebellion> zachalink: maybe you should try #windows
[23:32] <hanophix33> i do not know whatt driver to use
[23:32] <RyanPrior> daxroc: I can't play Ogg Theora, AVI, mpg, anything.
[23:32] <zachalink> would they know about this infra recorder program?
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> hanophix33: Have you enabled restricted drivers for your video card...  May I assume you are running Gutsy..
[23:32] <DRebellion> !restricted | RyanPrior
[23:32] <ubotu> RyanPrior: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:32] <RyanPrior> zachalink: ##windows is a good place to ask about that, yes.
[23:32] <daxroc> RyanPrior: have you tried reinstalling totem / gstreamer packages ?
[23:33] <soundray> RyanPrior: have you tried mplayer?
[23:33] <RyanPrior> DRebellion: please stop half-following conversations and spamming the room with oblique and unhelpful factoids.
[23:33] <hanophix33> jack_sparrow: the only restricted driver is my software modem driver
[23:33] <RyanPrior> soundray: I have not tried mplayer. Does it use gstreamer as a backend?
[23:34] <jacksmack> I have a question: My system has a Logitech DiNovo Edge Bluetooth keyboard. Its detected fine in BIOS + GRUB, but when I get to the Gnome Login screen, I need to remove the BT adapter and reinsert it, then force detection before the keyboard functions - what do I do ?  (Ubuntu 7.10)
[23:34] <Jack_Sparrow> hanophix33: What happens when you try to enable effects?
[23:34] <RyanPrior> daxroc: I have not tried reinstalling gstreamer or totem. How do I do that?
[23:34] <soundray> RyanPrior: no, that's what I was getting at. Get a list of mplayer's backends with "mplayer -vo help" and try them one-by-one
[23:34] <daxroc> F
[23:34] <hanophix33> jack_sparrow: "desktop effects could not be enabled"
[23:35] <fbc> Any idea why the 3d desktop effects do not work after following this guide? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way It used to say composite extension not installed but now it just says cannot enable.
[23:35] <RyanPrior> soundray: Sounds like a plan - let me install mplayer.
[23:35] <Jack_Sparrow> hanophix33: wHAT VIDEO HARDWARE ARE YOU RUNNING
[23:35] <hanophix33> vesa
[23:35] <Jack_Sparrow> hanophix33: Sorry for the caps people
[23:35] <soundray> RyanPrior: I find that sdl works in many situations where others cause trouble
[23:35] <hanophix33> jack_sparrow: vesa
[23:35] <fbc> vesa what?
[23:36] <daxroc> RyanPrior: openup synaptic and search for gstreamer and reinstall the installed , Have you installed the codecs for the media you are trying to play ?
[23:36] <hanophix33> vesa generic
[23:36] <soundray> hanophix33: for the effects, you need 3D acceleration. VESA drivers don't have that
[23:36] <fbc> and that will do what for me?
[23:36] <Starnestommy> that's the driver, not the hardware
[23:36] <RyanPrior> daxroc: Yes, the codecs are installed and have been working for a year and half now.
[23:36] <hanophix33>  ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[23:36] <hanophix33> is the hardware, im sorry
[23:37] <hanophix33> jack_sparrow:  ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[23:37] <excalibas> hello, i am having problems with the xserver-xorg-core update, i get a 404 error can soeone help please?
[23:37] <csc`> Is remote desktop sharing via x.org enabled by default in ubuntu?
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> np one sec
[23:37] <soundray> hanophix33: enable the fglrx driver with the Restricted Drivers manager
[23:37] <csc`> xorg/gdm/kdm
[23:37] <fbc> excalibas:  I got it a couple of times to, just try againg later of change your repository.
[23:38] <hanophix33> soundray: how?
[23:38] <Jack_Sparrow> soundray: Thanks.. trying to grab a bite to eat right now
[23:38] <soundray> csc`: no, you have to log in locally and enable it through vino-preferences
[23:38] <jskulski> hey how can I disable audio? as far as I know, this computer doesn't have a sound card. but when mplayer starts it tries to get to the card and will just keep trying, and any browser plugin for movies I tried always errors out - which I think is related to trying to get at audio.
[23:38] <tehk> Hello does anyone know if I can bind Super+C/V to copy and paste?
[23:38] <daxroc> RyanPrior: I would try re-install the gst/totem first , have you run totem from the cli ( any output ? )
[23:38] <soundray> hanophix33: System-Administration-Restricted Drivers Manager
[23:38] <csc`> soundray: im using the old 6.06 PPC disk, would i edit the gdm/kdm/etc file by hand or do i still use 'vino-preferences'
[23:38] <dgjones> !xbug | excalibas
[23:38] <ubotu> excalibas: A recent security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. The broken X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, which is why you got "403 Forbidden" errors. It should be fixed now.
[23:38] <RyanPrior> daxroc: Nope, good idea though.
[23:38] <soundray> jskulski: start mplayer with the '-ao none' option
[23:38] <jacksmack> I have a question: My system has a Logitech DiNovo Edge Bluetooth keyboard. Its detected fine in BIOS + GRUB, but when I get to the Gnome Login screen, I need to remove the BT adapter and reinsert it, then force detection before the keyboard functions - what do I do ?  (Ubuntu 7.10)
[23:38] <hanophix33> soundray: there is only a software modem driver
[23:39] <soundray> hanophix33: then your hardware isn't currently supported for 3D effects.
[23:39] <fbc> So should I just get a laptop that is more compatible with ubuntu?
[23:39] <soundray> jskulski: sorry, start mplayer with the '-ao null' option
[23:39] <desertc> jskulski: That is an interesting question.
[23:40] <hanophix33> soundray: which means....
[23:40] <excalibas> dgjones: thanks, its still not working, but i try again later
[23:40] <RyanPrior> daxroc: I reinstalled all of my gstreamer packages, including all the codecs, and the problem still persists.
[23:40] <soundray> hanophix33: you can't have 3D effects on your system right now. Try again when hardy is released
[23:40] <jskulski> soundray: well i mainly need to get the plugins working. i tried ln -s /dev/null /dev/dsp (which is seems to want to get at) but no go
[23:40] <honk_> Something seems to be keeping /dev/dsp busy...but I don't know what it is. How can I check what is tying up sound?
[23:40] <fbc> Could we setup a volunteer based ticketing engine?
[23:40] <hanophix33> soundray: thanks
[23:41] <csc`> fbc: which is what in context?
[23:41] <patogen> is there any good way to limit upload speed?
[23:41] <dgjones> excalibas, its probably filtering through, i had no problems updateing an hour or so ago using the gb archives
[23:41] <patogen> Because if I don't when I upload more than say 60-70kb/s
[23:41] <csc`> patogen: packet filtering iirc
[23:41] <solidunit> is there a program similar to handbrake that will convert avi's and mkv's to ipod/iphone compatible mp4's ?
[23:41] <soundray> fbc: how about an engineer based volunteering ticket?
[23:41] <patogen> it completely stops the other part of my connection
[23:41] <patogen> csc`: I'll look into it, thank you
[23:41] <daxroc> RyanPrior: any output from cli ?
[23:41] <eek> DRebellion: thank you for your wisdom.  my noob cup not yet over flowith
[23:42] <RyanPrior> daxroc: Nope, no CLI output.
[23:42] <fbc> csc`:  Well, so that a group of volunteers can receive trouble tickets and help people one on one so to speak instead of getting lost in this crowd.
[23:42] <csc`> patogen: or software throttling. ie, in torrents or the said uploader, limit the upload speed there
[23:42] <csc`> fbc: like microsoft? =p
[23:42] <desertc> jskulski:  You could disable the alsa init script(s), and/or blacklist all the sound modules.
[23:42] <fbc> csc`:  no like the OLPC project.
[23:43] <jacksmack> I have a question: My system has a Logitech DiNovo Edge Bluetooth keyboard. Its detected fine in BIOS + GRUB, but when I get to the Gnome Login screen, I need to remove the BT adapter and reinsert it, then force detection before the keyboard functions - what do I do ?  (Ubuntu 7.10)
[23:43] <patogen> csc`: My torrent software has limiting ... it's the webserver ...
[23:43] <fbc> soundray:  what do you think about that idea?
[23:43] <Bspec> what's the linux command to list processes?
[23:43] <daxroc> RyanPrior: run gstreamer-properties
[23:43] <jacksmack> Bspec:  ps -ax
[23:43] <daxroc> whats under the video tab ?
[23:43] <LjL> !meta | fbc, etc
[23:43] <ubotu> fbc, etc: If you would like to help in #*ubuntu* but it just goes too fast to spot interesting questions, try joining #ubuntu-meta and watching for questions there (note that it is NOT a support channel, however, and questions should still be answered in #*ubuntu*)
[23:43] <Starnestommy> or ps aux
[23:43] <csc`> Bspec: or ps aux
[23:43] <Bspec> ah
[23:43] <RyanPrior> soundray: I ran mplayer -vo help and got the list of backends. How do I try one?
[23:43] <perm> Hey All, Im using Kubuntu and can not connect to my wireless router as it has a hidden SSID, any work around for this ?
[23:44] <fbc> Any idea why the 3d desktop effects do not work after following this guide? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way It used to say composite extension not installed but now it just says cannot enable.
[23:44] <yapyccky> hello guys, i've tryied to install ubuntu server on a old pc but it doest work. it tells me that it cant load partition on ext3
[23:44] <yapyccky> how can i fix it?
[23:44] <Jack_Sparrow> hanophix33: Are you still here?
[23:44] <soundray> fbc: I think it could work well, but see LjL's factoid and I'm happy with things as they are
[23:44] <un_op> perm, why hide the SSID?
[23:44] <Goupil418> is there a shortcut command to open the terminal?
[23:44] <csc`> Bspec: singular processes will display using this 'ps -ae -o comm='
[23:44] <perm> un_op > Security, I have a hidden SSID and Mac Filtering
[23:44] <csc`> Bspec: ie. you only see the name of the process, rather than the args
[23:44] <daxroc> ps aux | grep keyword ?
[23:45] <soundray> perm: that isn't exactly secure...
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Goupil418: ctrl-alt -F2
[23:45] <RyanPrior> daxroc: I ran gstreamer-properties, and the video output is set to "Default". The "Test" button shows a video of colourful stripes with static in the corner.
[23:45] <Goupil418> thank you jack_sparrow
[23:45] <un_op> perm, well, that 'layer of security' (unnecessary in my opinion) has just made your life difficult hasn't it? :)
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[23:45] <perm> un_op > yes.
[23:45] <desertc> jskulski:  You might even set up a null sound device.  Sound good?
[23:45] <joeerror> Hello all, I'm trying to install gutsy via network as I have no cd rom on the computer I'm installing it on. After fixing each logged problem one by one, I can tftp locally but still timing out on other computers. Any suggestions?
[23:45] <un_op> perm, there are other better ways of securing your wireless network -- namely WPA and WEP :)
[23:45] <soundray> perm: you will have to set up your network statically via /etc/network/interfaces and set the ssid in there with the wireless-essid option
[23:45] <LjL> soundray, fbc: basically, with the bot, any question that's asked in a reasonably intelligible way and not followed by a trail of useless messages turns into a ticket... in a way.
[23:46] <yapyccky> none can help me?
[23:46] <perm> soundray > how should  I improve security?
[23:46] <daxroc> RyanPrior: are you sure the source is not poluted and you have the correct codec
[23:46] <perm> soundray > Thank you
[23:46] <desertc> joeerror: I don't, but I think you should write up a HOWTO on your project when you are done.  It sounds interesting.
[23:46] <jumpkic1> Anyone else have a broken X server after the latest updates?
[23:46] <soundray> perm: listen to un_op... although WEP is not secure and WPA is proprietary in parts...
[23:46] <RyanPrior> daxroc: Yup, these are all movies that I have played before.
[23:47] <solidunit> is there a program similar to handbrake that will convert avi's and mkv's to ipod/iphone compatible mp4's ?
[23:47] <perm> Thanks un_op
[23:47] <Traveler6> hello linux users of the world--anyone here know how to get rid of annoying text in my terminal when I first start a terminal session?
[23:47] <un_op> perm, yw
[23:47] <joeerror> desertc: There's actually quite a few HOWTOs on it already, I'm just getting stuck on one nasty part, that I can't seem to find the fix for :(
[23:47] <jumpkic1> Traveler6: use `clear`
[23:48] <Traveler6> when i launch the terminal, it lists a bunch of, what look like configuration notes
[23:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !xbug | jumpkic1
[23:48] <ubotu> jumpkic1: A recent security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. The broken X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, which is why you got "403 Forbidden" errors. It should be fixed now.
[23:48] <un_op> lol jumpkic1
[23:48] <daxroc> RyanPrior: so plugin is set to autodetect in gst-prop, find it strange it just stoped working , did you install some new sw ?
[23:48] <IrishDave> hey, im getting package upgrade errors. im getting told to upgrade xerver-xorg-core to ubuntu8.1 but then it cant download the update when i click install
[23:48] <Traveler6> serious though
[23:48] <RyanPrior> Okay, interesting update! If I use mplayer with the gl backend, the video plays correctly, but veerrry slooowly
[23:48] <daxroc> IrishDave: topic ^
[23:48] <Traveler6> i would like it so when i launch terminal there is no text other than my pompt.  any ideas?
[23:48] <Traveler6> edit the bash profile?
[23:49] <daxroc> IrishDave: nm
[23:49] <soundray> un_op: is it possible to set up a secure WLAN with VPN instead of WEP/WPA?
[23:49] <IrishDave> its telling me 403 forbidden
[23:49] <un_op> soundray, i'm not sure i follow -- can you elaborate a little bit please?
[23:49] <Jack_Sparrow> IrishDave: Look up 3 lines from your previous post
[23:49] <dannyboy79> does anyone know how to create a bash script that would run at startup that would do this command? sudo setpci -v -s 00:0f.0 latency_timer=b0
[23:49] <LjL> !xbug | IrishDave
[23:49] <ubotu> IrishDave: A bug has recently caused an X.org package to break. It is fixed now, just update your packages list from Synaptic/Adept or « sudo apt-get update »
[23:49] <fbc> Is there any way to suppress these XChat join and leave messages?
[23:49] <jskulski> desertc: i think the null device sounded the best, how do you suggest that
[23:49] <soundray> Traveler6: that's how it works here by default...
[23:50] <RyanPrior> The GGI backend works perfectly.
[23:50] <jumpkic1> Jack_Sparrow: I can get in using failsafe mode
[23:50] <Traveler6> fbc are you talking to me?
[23:50] <OasisGames> Just here a for a single question: Anyone else having problems downloading an X server update in Feisty?
[23:50] <LjL> !xbug | OasisGames
[23:50] <ubotu> OasisGames: A bug has recently caused an X.org package to break. It is fixed now, just update your packages list from Synaptic/Adept or « sudo apt-get update »
[23:50] <fbc> Traveler6:  Only if you know the answer.
[23:50] <jumpkic1> just when I use a normal login it seems to flip my video right as it reaches the desktop
[23:50] <un_op> !boot | dannyboy79
[23:50] <ubotu> dannyboy79: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[23:50] <jumpkic1> and I lose signal
[23:51] <Traveler6> fbc--when i log into a terminal session, a bunch of config info is shown, it annoys me, how do i get rid of it?
[23:51] <tockitj> Q: how to show system performance in gnome? i'd like to see list of top processes, cpu, hdd, mem usage; network statistics (graphs), open ports and such :-)
[23:51] <soundray> un_op: I'm thinking that it must be possible to have encrypted wireless traffic without WEP/WPA by allowing clients to connect only via VPN
[23:51] <dgjones> fbc, right click on the channel name and there's an option "show join/part messages"
[23:51] <dannyboy79> un_op: yeah, but how do I write the bash script itself?
[23:51] <IrishDave> thanks guys, i though i had updated it but i must have done that prior to the update being fixed
[23:52] <misslecommander> tockitj: SYstem/Administration/System Monitor
[23:52] <daxroc> soundray: it sure is possible to secure traffic over wifi with vpn
[23:52] <Jack_Sparrow> jumpkic1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  reset your video or set it to vesa mode.. 1024 x768 max res to get back a basic gui
[23:52] <pike_> tockitj: i use conky but ive never used it in gnome.i assume there are panel applets too for gnome-panel
[23:52] <fbc> dgjones: It's not there.. I'm using xchat gnome
[23:52] <tockitj> misslecommander, is there way to stick these stats to desktop ? (something like superkaramba for kde? :-)
[23:52] <Traveler6> is there an irc channel for bash users??????????????????????/
[23:53] <MenZa> Traveler6: #bash probably
[23:53] <soldats> fbc, its the same as xchat
[23:53] <jumpkic1> Jack_Sparrow: but, but...  It runs at full resolution in failsafe (just get a single terminal)....   So it's not an X configuration issue
[23:53] <soundray> daxroc: is there a way to make the WLAN inaccessible to "hijackers" at the same time?
[23:53] <drgonzo00000> i want to delete the directory the directory that i installed my alsa drivers from, but it won't let me. Should I not delete it?
[23:53] <Gekkomon_Shogun> can someone help me
[23:53] <misslecommander> tockitj: i cant be sure there is a way
[23:53] <soundray> dannyboy79: just add the setpci command to /etc/rc.local (no sudoe)
[23:53] <soldats> soundray, you can remove wireless broadcasting
[23:53] <fbc> soldats: The how come i cannot suppress the joain leave messages as he indicates?
[23:53] <LjL> !ask | Gekkomon_Shogun
[23:53] <ubotu> Gekkomon_Shogun: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:54] <Gokul> anyone know where i can obtain debug packages for gutsy? for instance for apache
[23:54] <demon_spork> POPCORNS
[23:54] <demon_spork> i has them
[23:54] <tockitj> monospace font under gnome looks as if heavy blur has been applied over it, hmmz
[23:54] <LjL> !ot | demon_spork
[23:54] <ubotu> demon_spork: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:54] <soundray> soldats: you can always find the ESSID by eavesdropping, so that doesn't help against a serious attack
[23:54] <soldats> fbc, did you rclick chan name in the left pane. if that doesnt work try "/ignore #ubuntu JOIN/PARTS"
[23:54] <daxroc> soundray: you could block access to your gateway and only allow traffic over vpn ? depending on what hw you have available, or use wep and vpn should be fine
[23:54] <Gekkomon_Shogun> when i get on xfire and start a voice chat my friend can barly hear me how can i fix me
[23:55] <soldats> soundray, lust makes it a little harder :)
[23:55] <Gokul> anyone know where i can obtain debug packages for gutsy? for instance for apache
[23:55] <un_op> dannyboy79, if it's just that one line -- you don't need a bash script -- just place that line into /etc/rc.local
[23:55] <daxroc> soundray: if they want in they will get in
[23:55] <soundray> soldats: I don't want "a little harder", I want security...
[23:55] <LjL> !repeat | Gokul
[23:55] <ubotu> Gokul: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[23:55] <un_op> dannyboy79, edit the file like this -- gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[23:55] <soundray> daxroc: well, there's no point in making it more secure than my front door lock ;)
[23:55] <un_op> dannyboy79, and place your line just above the last line that says "exit 0" ...
[23:56] <daxroc> soundray: Is this your home nw ?
[23:56] <soundray> daxroc: but thanks, I'm sure I'll find something in the OpenWrt docs if I put my mind to it
[23:56] <soundray> daxroc: yes
[23:56] <bruenig> why does rc.local have exit 0 at the end, that is very confusing still
[23:56] <soundray> daxroc: next you'll ask for my address :)
[23:56] <XiXaQ> when I copy files to /etc/skel, then all files are supposed to be copy from that onto each new users homes, right?
[23:57] <bruenig> why not just have init ignore the exit status or rc.local instead of enforcing that tedious rule
[23:57] <daxroc> soundray: wpa-psk is more than enough if you can use wpa2
[23:57] <kr00l> I need help with compiz themes
[23:57] <un_op> bruenig, because init needs someway of finding out that /etc/rc.local executed successfully -- if there were no exit command there, then the exit status passed to init would be the exit status of the last command in /etc/rc.local and you cannot guarantee what that will ever be
[23:57] <LjL> bruenig: uh, to state that it exited succesfully?
[23:57] <soundray> daxroc: do you happen to know what it is about WPA that is proprietary?
[23:58] <dgjones> fbc, just saw your reply, its different with xchat and xchat-gnome, i was talking about xchat itself
[23:58] <Michoacano> hi dudes
[23:58] <fbc_> Could someone take a look at this and tell me what they think? http://pastebin.com/d7f42b5aa
[23:58] <bruenig> LjL, but why doesn't init just ignore the exit status of it?
[23:58] <soundray> daxroc: I'm not radical, but I generally feel more comfortable when I use free (libre) software
[23:58] <Michoacano> i was have a problem
[23:58] <drgonzo00000>  i want to delete the directory the directory that i installed my alsa drivers from, but it won't let me. Should I not delete it?
[23:58] <djsnoopy> i have a problem with visual effects of gutsy
[23:58] <bruenig> that seems a cleaner way to do it
[23:58] <bruenig> less error prone
[23:58] <djsnoopy> my visual effects wont enable
[23:58] <LjL> bruenig, it doesn't ignore the status of anything in /etc/init.d either. remember the old times when, during boot, you'd see "Doing blah blah: OK" or "Doing blih blih: FAILED"?
[23:59] <un_op> bruenig, well, you might want init to stop if there is an error in /etc/rc.local .. and it does just that ..
[23:59] <fbc_> djsnoopy: You too?? we're on the same boat my friend.
[23:59] <djsnoopy> yeah it sucks
[23:59] <soundray> Michoacano: I know. You can't English
[23:59] <dannyboy79> soundray: why not any sudo? doesn't that command require sudo. it did when I ran it from the command prompt
[23:59] <djsnoopy> somebody told me it might by my chipset?
[23:59] <soundray> Michoacano: sorry, stupid joke, couldn't resist. Please ask your question
[23:59] <Michoacano> soundray, sorry
[23:59] <Michoacano> i am mexican
[23:59] <joeerror> Assuming I've waited long enough to re-ask. Any suggestions to solving tftp timeout problems, I'm using hpa-tftpd on gutsy