[00:01] <soldats> !skype
[00:01] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[00:01] <soldats> Ven]n, if you need those libraries you can download them individually as well
[00:02] <soldats> most people i talk to say they installed it with that link
[00:03] <Ven]n> noen of those are skype 2?
[00:06] <aroo> man i love xubuntu
[00:06] <soldats> aroo, :P
[00:07] <aroo> simplicity is best
[00:07] <soldats> Ven]n, im not sure. ive never seen the point of skype to be honest. i really wasnt aware of a skype 2.0 though sorry
[00:11] <aroo> what is the command to start the default xfce terminal?
[00:12] <soldats> xfce4-terminal
[00:12] <aroo> thanks
[00:13] <soldats> :P
[01:22] <doctordevice> I'm having a rather odd issue with my wireless card under Xubuntu. when I first boot the system, it takes a very long time to identify the signal from my router (WRT54G v5). once it has the signal and I attempt a connection, my router makes no indication that any wifi negotiation is taking place, and the connection fails. I have managed once, and only once, to connect to another wireless router I have (La Fonera). I have
[01:22] <doctordevice> not been able to re-establish that connection, though, since I tried to connect to my WRT.
[01:23] <soldats> can you make sure your router isnt blocking connecctions via mac address
[01:24] <doctordevice> that was one of the first things I checked, actually. made sure the MAC address is on the whitelist
[01:26] <Kuwanger> For some reason I have two network connection icons in my system tray when I should only have one.  How do I fix that?
[01:26] <soldats> did you check on the forums for any other problems with the WRT, i recall some people having problems but look for fixes as well
[01:27]  * soldats connects directly to wireless router
[01:27] <doctordevice> as am I right now
[01:27] <soldats> cool
[01:28] <soldats> Kuwanger, is it a problem, can you remove one, if so will it remove the other?
[01:28] <Kuwanger> soldats: There is no option to remove one.
[01:29] <soldats> hmm if you uncheck enable netwokring on one will it do the same on the other
[01:30] <Kuwanger> I haven't tried.
[01:31] <soldats> i recall that happeneing to me with ubuntu and gnome but i rebooted and it went away
[01:32] <Kuwanger> I've reboted and it didn't go away.
[01:40] <Kuwanger> On an unrelated issue, how do I change the screen blanking so it'll detect when I'm pressing keys on my gamepad?
[01:42] <soldats> why dont you just make the screen never blank and just use the monitor power key to turn it off
[01:44] <Kuwanger> Well, I tried that, but it still blanks. :/
[01:45] <soldats> how did you do it
[01:49] <Kuwanger> Through Xfce Settings->Screensaver, which launches Gnome screensaver preferences.
[01:50] <soldats> try through the xorg.conf
[01:50] <soldats> it will work
[01:55] <Kuwanger> One final question.  How do I figure out what program is grabbing key input?  For some reason, pressing Ctrl+Alt+Left/Right is switching desktops.
[01:56] <soldats> thats standard for xfce i believe, to switch desktops. in each app there should be preferences to tell what keys do what. if not check in each config file.
[02:08] <doctordevice> hrm... how do I change wireless drivers in xubuntu? I have ndiswrapper installed, and I want to try it in place of hostap
[02:10] <soldats> imnot experienced with wireless. you should ask in #ubuntu since its the same underlining kernal
[02:10] <soldats> im sure somone will have a fix for it
[02:10] <doctordevice> ok
[02:12] <fiyawerx> Anyone using a manual install of the nvidia drivers? I Installed Xubuntu, did all the updates (didn't enable restricted drivers) Since i thin kthe ones in repos aren't the newest, not too sure tho. But This is the only distro I've had problems installing with lately
[02:13] <soldats> nvidia-glx-new
[02:14] <soldats> !nvidia
[02:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:15] <fiyawerx> Internal Server Error
[02:15] <fiyawerx> nice.
[02:15] <fiyawerx> And do you know what version of the drivers nvidia-glx-new installs?
[02:16] <soldats> "sudo apt-cache search nvidia-glx-new" may say
[02:17] <fiyawerx> found it
[02:17] <fiyawerx> 100.14.19
[02:17] <fiyawerx> aptitude show did the trick
[02:17] <fiyawerx> the newest are 169.07, came out dec 20th
[02:18] <soldats> ahh ok i was about to say aptitude as well
[02:18] <fiyawerx> will check out the binary driver howto once the servers back working
[02:18] <fiyawerx> ah its back
[02:18] <soldats> :P
[02:18] <soldats> good luck
[02:18] <fiyawerx> oh
[02:19] <fiyawerx> that just tells you to do restricted drivers
[02:19] <soldats> nvidia home page may be better
[02:19] <fiyawerx> wonder what happened that ubuntu doesn't like the manual install
[02:19] <soldats> maybe not updates repos
[02:44] <XceII> K guys, I got it straight, thanks for the help, god bless. bbs.
[02:49] <Kuwanger> Thanks for the info.
[02:49] <soldats> np
[02:49] <culb> whats a good media player for xfce, mainly mp3's
[02:50] <soldats> do you like gui or cli
[02:50] <jljohnstone> i use xfmedia
[02:50] <soldats> culb, err directed towards you
[02:50] <culb> gui.......
[02:51] <culb> i dont want a bunch of unneeded dependencies
[02:51] <soldats> amarok is an amazing gui mp3 player but works better on more high end systems rythmbox isnt so bloated but lacks some plug-ins and tools
[02:51] <culb> like amarok for kde or banshee for gnome
[02:52] <soldats> rythmbox is good too, it supports random and random playlists and has support for podcasts
[02:52] <soldats> both ipod capable as well
[02:53] <soldats> epiphany i hear is cool
[03:22] <fiyawerx> I've been trying to get used to Exaile lately
[03:22] <fiyawerx> fairly nice player
[03:22] <fiyawerx> Exaile is a music player aiming to be similar to KDE's Amarok, but for GTK+ and written in Python. I
[04:32] <XceII> what a waste of time, this is the phisher price for teen agers, thanks for the help though, god bless.
[04:35] <zoredache> what the heck was that about?
[04:36] <soldats> hmm trolling maybe
[04:37] <zoredache> perhaps... but he was asking lots of questions about setup a couple hours ago...
[04:38] <soldats> jerk then? doesnt seem to enjoy a great system
[04:38] <soldats> err OS
[04:40] <zoredache> I suppose, but I don't get the drive-by complaining.  If he had a real complaint, it seems like he should have stayed to discuss things.  If he didn't care, why come in at all?
[04:40]  * zoredache shrugs... I just don't understand some people
[04:42] <soldats> thats why it seems more like minor trolling to me
[04:42] <soldats> why do unnecessary complaining
[04:53] <Archangel144> I'm having sound card issues with my Acer 3050,  anyone have any tips.
[04:56] <Archangel144> is anyone on line
[04:58] <soldats> wait
[04:59] <soldats> so whats wrong
[05:03] <Archangel144> I'm not getting any sound from my laptop speakers
[05:03] <soldats> can you go to audio properties and ensure that slsa is selected
[05:04] <soldats> alsa**
[05:06] <Archangel144> I can't seem to find that
[05:09] <soldats> applications > settings > mixer settings
[05:11] <haymaker> hey
[05:11] <haymaker> i've got the ubuntu, what is better about xfce?
[05:15] <soldats> smaller uses less recources but with less support options that come standard haymaker
[05:15] <haymaker> hmm, so if i've got a 1.33 ghz laptop that is a better choice?
[05:15] <haymaker> does it handle gtk apps ok?
[05:16] <zoredache> yes
[05:16] <soldats> thats a pretty good processor, whats the ram, gtk apps are fine
[05:16] <haymaker> 1gb
[05:17] <haymaker> my ubuntu machine is a horse, 3.2g, 2gb
[05:17] <soldats> you should be fine with gnome but xfce is smaller and usually runs faster less of a memory hog
[05:19] <haymaker> i'm getting the xubuntu desktop iso, does this work like the livecd?
[05:20] <soldats> yes
[05:20] <haymaker> cool, i'll put it on a memory stick and give it a shot
[05:20] <soldats> it is a live cd. its ubuntu kernal with xfce
[05:20] <haymaker> what do you mean "less support options"?
[05:21] <soldats> nautilus is a little more advanced than thunar for file management
[05:21] <soldats> the panels as well
[05:21] <haymaker> nautilus sucks, i've got a serious hatred for it
[05:21] <soldats> well try it out and see if you like it :)
[05:23] <haymaker> i want to be able to have transparency, does thunar have that?
[05:24] <soldats> the xfce compositor allows it
[05:24] <soldats> afaik
[05:24] <soldats> as in transperency for thunar
[05:25] <haymaker> i can't make the window backgrounds in nautilus transparent
[05:26] <haymaker> oops, nevermind that, alt and mouse wheel
[07:26] <TeXnicer> Moin
[07:27] <TeXnicer> weird
[07:31] <soldats> ur wierd
[07:32] <soldats> :)
[07:47] <TeXnicer> and you are uber-soldats?
[07:48] <soldats> i wish
[13:34] <asc> I need a 'run program' applet for the xfce panel. Does anybody know of one?
[13:36] <asc> Or any other program which creates a run program dialog, really
[13:36] <TheSheep> asc: the verve plugin
[13:37] <TheSheep> asc: you can also just make a launcher to xfce4-run
[13:37] <TheSheep> xfrun
[13:37] <asc> Ain't in Synaptic. Looking up verve
[13:39] <asc> verve works good - thanks a lot
[13:42] <TheSheep> xfrun is the program that starts when you press alt+f2
[13:45] <asc> I'm putting a franken-environment together, and all the parts aren't working right - metacity's run program dialog doesn't appear.
[13:46] <asc> Hm. Come to that, is metacity the xfce WM? I'm more than open to replacing it with something lighter
[13:48] <asc> Ah, xfwm4. I'll have to look into that.
[13:48] <maxamillion> asc: xfwm4 is what metacity wishes it could be
[13:49] <asc> Heh heh
[13:49] <asc> Just a second, restarting wm
[13:51] <asc> Oooh... :)
[13:52] <asc> Okay, this makes everything I've been trying to do a lot easier.
[13:57] <asc> Er, maybe. Keyboard commands don't work when I don't have the configuration window open.
[17:23] <TeXnicer> moin
[18:03] <lm> .
[18:04] <lm> Anyone here tried xubuntu with ctwm as the window manager?
[18:07] <somerville32> !anyone
[18:07] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[18:12] <lm> Heh.  OK.  The real question is that many of the ubuntu based distros put a lot of their polish into the desktop.  If you want sound/video/networking to work, it will if you run their desktop but tends to fall apart if you don't.  What I'm wondering is if I use ctwm on xubuntu, how much stuff is going to fall apart?
[18:14] <somerville32> The virtual desktops might be funky, I'm not sure
[18:14] <somerville32> Try it out and let me know :)
[18:18] <slow-motion> hi
[18:23] <maxamillion> slow-motion: hello
[18:24] <slow-motion> hi maxamillion
[18:53] <arttu> can anyone help with no audio on a fresh installation?
[18:55] <TheSheep> !anynone
[18:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anynone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:55] <TheSheep> !anyone
[18:55] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[18:56] <arttu> i'm very sorry
[18:56] <arttu> not really the irc type
[18:57] <arttu> just kind of lost, don't know what to try
[18:57] <TheSheep> arttu: no problem, just tell us what's wrong
[18:57] <TheSheep> arttu: and if someone has an idea, they will say it
[18:57] <arttu> no audio, works on xp
[18:58] <TheSheep> arttu: how did you check?
[18:58] <lm> Did you try running aumix or alsamixer or alsamixergui and look at the settings to see if the speakers are muted or turned down?
[19:00] <arttu> tried playing the video clip in home/examples, video plays but audio doesn't
[19:00] <arttu> lm: nope, how do i do that?
[19:02] <lm> get a terminal window and run alsamixergui - if it isn't there, try apt-get install alsamixergui
[19:02] <lm> As root
[19:10] <TheSheep> or install it with synaptic
[19:12] <arttu> i installed it with synaptic and ran it
[19:13] <arttu> trying to figure out exactly what i'm looking at and how to cahnge the settings...
[19:15] <arttu> not everything is turned up, but those i can't seem to be able to adjust, PCM Out Path says mute
[19:16] <arttu> does alsa do anything significantly different from volume control?
[19:18] <Turno> I just installed apache2 php5 mysql-server libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php5-mysql.... why is it when i navigate to my jinzora directory it prompts me to save a file with the mime type application/x-https-php?
[19:20] <Turno> err... application/x-httpd-php
[19:20] <Turno> i know i'm an idiot
[19:22] <TheSheep> Turno: install the LAMP package
[19:22] <TheSheep> arttu: alsa is the name of the sound system -- basically all sound drivers
[19:23] <TheSheep> arttu: unmute the PCM channel, it's the main sound channel
[19:25] <Turno> theres an actual lamp package?
[19:26] <arttu> i can't do anything to it
[19:26] <TheSheep> arttu: how come? there is no mute/unmute button?
[19:30] <Turno> thesheep: i did a synaptic search, couldn't find the lamp package
[19:31] <TheSheep> hm
[19:31] <TheSheep> !info ubuntu-lamp
[19:31] <ubotu> Package ubuntu-lamp does not exist in gutsy
[19:31] <TheSheep> weird
[19:32] <arttu> i'm guessing the speaker icons on top of the bars are the mute buttons, they go from green to white when you click them, but they won't respond on the PCM Out Path. they just stay green, and the bars are down to zero, but i can't move them like on most of the others.... PCM Out Path just has Mute written below it
[19:32] <TheSheep> Turno: anyways, I have it on hardy, and it contains these packages:
[19:32] <TheSheep> Turno: Depends: apache2, libapache2-mod-php5, libapache2-mod-python, mysql-server-5.0, php5-gd, php5-mysql, phpmyadmin
[19:32] <TheSheep> Turno: you probably miss the mod_php one
[19:33] <TheSheep> arttu: maybe try the text-mode alsamixer instead, selected the pcm out and press 'm'
[19:33] <TheSheep> arttu: is this the same user that was created during installation?
[19:34] <Turno> i have all of those packages installed except for phpmyadmin
[19:35] <arttu> yes
[19:36] <TheSheep> Turno: you don't need the phpmyadmin
[19:36] <TheSheep> Turno: the behavior you describe indicates that mod_php is not enabled in the web server configuration for some reason...
[19:37] <TheSheep> Turno: have you checked the server logs?
[19:39] <arttu> TheSheep: PCM Out reads "pre 3D" which i can switch to "post 3D" and doesn't seem to affect anything
[19:40] <TheSheep> :/
[19:40] <TheSheep> arttu: did you try any of the other files in the examples?
[19:40] <arttu> just plain PCM looks just fine
[19:40] <arttu> yeah, all 3
[19:44] <Turno> i haven't checked the logs... good thinking
[20:00] <jeriko> 'lo
[20:01] <jeriko> i installed ubuntu-restricted-extras but totem chokes on m3u stream. any ideas?
[20:10] <TheSheep> !w32codecs
[20:10] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[20:10] <TheSheep> jeriko: m3u is actually just a text file with an address of the actual stream in it
[20:11] <TheSheep> arttu: when you open a terminal and type 'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp', do you hear noice from your speakers?
[20:17] <arttu> no
[20:17] <TheSheep> :/
[20:17] <TheSheep> run lspci and see what make and model your sound card is
[20:21] <arttu> TheSheep: Rockwell International Unknown device 4310
[20:22] <TheSheep> ugh, that's doesn't sound too good...
[20:23] <TheSheep> arttu: I'd take a look at forums (http://forum.ubuntu.com) and maybe google for it too... no more ideas, sorry
[20:26] <TheSheep> arttu: oh, you could also ask on #ubuntu, it's the same under the hood
[20:26] <arttu> i found something on it in the forums, gotta keep reading
[20:27] <arttu> on another note, why does terminal keep loggong me out? i installed aterm but haven't figured out how to paste in it yet, makes life harder
[20:28] <TheSheep> arttu: you have an intel graphics card, I presume?
[20:28] <arttu> i read changing color depth to 16 would help but it didn't...
[20:28] <arttu> yes
[20:28] <TheSheep> yes, it should help
[20:28] <TheSheep> or just install and use the gnome-terminal
[20:28] <TheSheep> arttu: about aterm, you usually paste using the middle mouse button
[20:29] <arttu> which i don't have...
[20:29] <TheSheep> arttu: then the two mouse button pressed together
[20:29] <TheSheep> butotns
[20:30] <TheSheep> buttons
[20:31] <arttu> wow... live and learn, i guess i've just spent too much time in the garage..
[20:32] <TheSheep> I don't htink it's really documented anywhere properly...
[20:35] <arttu> thanks a bunch for the effort, at least i found a bunch of settings to tweak for problems to come
[20:36] <TheSheep> :)
[20:40] <Turno> TheSheep: i got it to work
[20:40] <Turno> not sure exactly how
[20:41] <TheSheep> Turno: that's great
[20:41] <Turno> but i think it was probably when I symlinked /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5 into /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[20:41] <TheSheep> Turno: that may be it :)
[20:41] <Turno> after i did that i had to clear my browser cache
[20:41] <Turno> so i went well past the solution before I realized it was fixed
[20:42] <TheSheep> Turno: playing with ww servers has a lot of things like that
[20:42] <TheSheep> Turno: requires a lot of patience
[21:04] <arttu> TheSheep: i'll have to try to scrap a sound card from somewhere/someone, or enjoy the peace and quiet, the soundcard just isn't supported. thanks for your help and patience!
[22:15] <jeriko> hrm, totem won't even play a local mp3 file after i've installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:15] <jeriko> any suggestions?
[22:15] <jeriko> i've used totem sucessfully in the past on other installs
[22:22] <fiyawerx> hmm
[22:22] <fiyawerx> i just saw an md5 sum mismatch scroll by during ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:22] <fiyawerx> wonder what package itw as
[22:26] <fiyawerx> jeriko, good question, I even installed w32codecs from medibuntu and no luck
[22:31] <slow-motion> n8
[22:31] <jeriko> fiyawerx: :/
[22:37] <jeriko> fiyawerx: i switched to totem-gstreamer instead of totem-xine and it fixed
[22:37] <jeriko> i must have had some xine issues
[22:37] <fiyawerx> where do you change that?
[22:39] <fiyawerx> oh, apt-get install totem-gstreamer, trying that now
[22:39] <jeriko> sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer will do it all
[22:41] <fiyawerx> !mp3
[22:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:42] <fiyawerx> hm no lyuck
[23:21] <Jorophose> Is there going to be a way to upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04 directly?
[23:21] <zoredache> All the docs seem to claim that should be possible
[23:22] <Jorophose> alright! perfect!
[23:22] <zoredache> of course, I suspect it might not be entirely perfect.  The more popular packages will probably work fine
[23:23] <zoredache> I would bet some obscure stuff might have issues.
[23:27] <Jorophose> D=
[23:27] <Jorophose> But will it show up in update-manager?
[23:28] <zoredache> sorry?
[23:30] <soldats> Jorophose, probly not because hardy isnt fully stable yet so no matter what theres is a possibility of something being messed up or bad
[23:31] <Jorophose> Is it being planned though? This really is an important feature, because if I can't upgrade to the next LTS release might as well go for Debian Etch instead =/
[23:31] <march> goodnight :)
[23:33] <soldats> Jorophose, the main reason someting may be messed up is because hardy isnt fully stable yet. 7.10 is the newest stable release and is supported till 2009 i believe. even so, the correct way to upgrade is to upgrade each release. go from 6.06 to 7.10 then 8.04
[23:34] <soldats> its not release yet but its only released as 'trial' to test for stability
[23:59] <jeriko> fiyawerx: i still had issues with some streams using totem-gstreamer
[23:59] <jeriko> i gave up and installed audacious
[23:59] <jeriko> working again