[00:12] <KillerKiwi2005> Whats the correct way for a deb to add a user to the fuse group??
[00:15] <slangasek> "not"? :)  why do you need to do this?
[00:23] <minghua> Shouldn't the primary user (created during installation) already be in fuse group anyway?
[00:30] <KillerKiwi2005> The application needs fuse to work...
[03:03] <Mez> how do I get a kernel config in the right place (saying that theres no config.mk)
[04:28] <mgunes> are there plans to ship an svn snapshot of Network Manager 0.7 if 0.7 final isn't released in time for Hardy, or is the fallback plan to ship 0.6.5? I haven't found any relevant info in the nm-ifupdown-death-match blueprint.
[04:30] <LaserJock> I'm guessing that might be determined at FeatureFreeze
[04:31] <nixternal> boo
[04:33] <articpenguin3800> why is ext3 default
[04:33] <ToyKeeper> ... tradition, and because it's probably the most reliable and well-supported linux filesystem...
[04:34] <ToyKeeper> With indexing enabled, it performs on par with xfs or reiser3 most of the time too.  :)
[04:35] <articpenguin3800> well in my testing of the 4 filesystems reiserfs and xfs crapped out and ext3 insisted on doing fsck 5 times and jfs just started right up
[04:35] <articpenguin3800> ext3 also fragments more than jfs and xfs
[04:36] <ToyKeeper> I'm pretty fond of xfs.
[04:38] <articpenguin3800> well with ext3 striving to be one of those safety filesystems it has since reached the point where it dosent have the speed to do what i need
[04:38] <ToyKeeper> ... been using it since it was a new feature in IRIX, and it hasn't ever given me a problem.  :)
[04:38] <LaserJock> articpenguin3800: you are welcome to use another filesystem :-)
[04:39] <mgunes> LaserJock, thanks
[04:39] <ToyKeeper> Heh, choice isn't exactly lacking in Linux.  :)
[04:41] <articpenguin3800> do all filesystems slow down at 50% space usage?
[04:41]  * ToyKeeper shuts down to pour wax all over his notebook
[04:42] <LaserJock> articpenguin3800: I've never heard of that before
[04:49] <articpenguin3800> well i have mostly tested ext3 and jfs on a 500GB partiton and JFS seems to complete operations faster than ext3. I find JFS does allocate files better too.
[04:49] <articpenguin3800> bye!
[06:29] <warp10> Good morning
[07:44] <pwnguin> does sourceforge have a feature to view source by commits hiding somewhere?
[07:49] <crimsun> pwnguin: viewvc does.
[07:54] <pwnguin> i guess this depends on whether the archive is cvs or svn, but i'd like a whole commit concept
[11:44] <\sh> doko, ping crystalspace...you wrote  Configure --without-java --disable-separate-debug-info, while --disable-separate-debug-info is configured correctly, the configure flag for --without-java is commented in...what's the truth? ,)
[12:10] <pitti> keescook: btw, did you test it on amd64, or on i386, too? it doesn't seem to affect amd64
[12:56] <geser> will debhelper 6 make it into hardy soon or should packages depending on it be changed to only need debhelper 5?
[12:59] <Hobbsee> we have debhelper 6 now?
[13:00] <minghua> Yes, since a few days ago.
[13:00]  * Hobbsee looks for the changelog
[13:00] <geser> Hobbsee: Debian has and the first packages start to build-depending on it
[13:02] <Hobbsee> neat
[13:05] <pitti> as long as it's fully backward compatible, I don't think that it is unreasonable to merge
[13:09] <ion_> What’s new in debhelper 6? (I can just google it a bit later, but in case anyone feels like paraphrasing...)
[16:17] <tostado> hi I'm installing feisty with FAI, and have console/font problems with german environment
[16:17] <tostado> can someone help me out ?
[16:18] <\sh> hint regarding tostados question: dpkg-reconfigure console-setup was already successful, but it looks like that he is missing some fonts or console font package somehow...
[16:18] <\sh> re tostado ;)
[16:18] <tostado> re \sh
[16:19] <tostado> \sh: http://www.staz.be/wiki/FAI_Gutsy
[16:20] <tostado> thats what i was looking for
[16:21] <\sh> tostado, oh...yepp..that's working indeed
[16:29] <tostado> \sh: we tried that and it didn't worked but we didn't spend much time in it - first we want to have a good feisty install and then we see...
[16:30] <tostado> hmm.... nowbody have an idea how to get german environment on the console from scratch ?
[16:31] <tostado> ok i try at #ubuntu
[16:47] <jdong> can I poke an archive admin to clear binary NEW, particularly mpeg4ip?
[16:48] <jdong> yeah I know it's the weekend :)
[18:28] <\sh> infinity, ping gnubiff ... you exchanged libfam to libgamin during breezy cycle...debian upstream doesn't want to go with this change.. what would you propose for hardy? fam or gamin?
[18:31] <mjg59> gamin
[18:33] <\sh> mjg59, thx...
[18:48] <Robot101> \sh: fam is loss
[18:48] <\sh> Robot101, well, then I wonder why debian maintainer doesn't want to change
[18:49] <Robot101> he's not qualified to do his job, he's just the first person who saw the package on freshmeat.net and filed an ITP? :P
[18:49] <Robot101> or is that me being overly cynical... :)
[18:49] <\sh> hehe