[20:41] ant in hardy depends on java-virtual-machine is that correct? why don't the sun-java* provide it? trying to keep gcj out [20:51] the java-virtual-machine depends is totally wrong [20:52] it should not be there at all [20:57] seem to be a few semi-related bugs open [21:06] selckin: why dont you write patches for them and send them to debian for inclusion? [21:06] the ubuntu java packages are normally just syncs from Debian [21:47] any debian channel for questions? #d-java is empty [21:48] #debian-java [21:48] but all Debian channels are on OFTC (or irc.debian.net) [21:48] ah right [21:48] not FreeNode