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Kanosame for prism54 as p54pci has same ids00:39
Kanoremove those from prism5400:39
Kanovery unlikely that a card will work when 2 drivers are loaded00:40
mjg59Why?00:42
mjg59Two drivers can't claim the same card00:42
Kanothey do00:42
Kanoin both cases00:42
mjg59No. They don't.00:42
Kanoof course00:42
mjg59Really. They don't.00:42
Kanothen buy glasses00:43
mjg59No. It is impossible for two drivers to claim the same PCI device.00:43
mjg59The kernel doesn't allow it00:43
mjg59pci_enable_device() will fail00:43
Kanoso which driver do you think will udev load00:43
Kanoi would say the wrong one00:43
mjg59It's arbitrary00:43
mjg59It depends on the order of the inodes in /lib/modules00:44
Kanofunny00:44
Kanowhy not make it deterministic by removing pciids like you did for ipw394500:44
mjg59That's a perfectly reasonable request00:45
Kanomy card only works with p54pci so remove it from prism5400:45
mjg59There are some cards with that PCI ID that work better with prism5400:46
Kanoalso i would say that b43 - loaded via ssb should be used now and pciids removed from bcm43xx00:46
mjg59I'd agree00:46
Kanosoftmac are more common today00:46
Kanoand p54pci supports those00:47
Kanoas far as i know did prism54 not even support wpa00:47
mjg59Thanks, Kano00:47
Kanoprism54 is really outdated00:48
Kanoalso i build the new 5 kernel without those ipw39/49 drivers. but it dont see em in lum yet00:49
amitkHave you considered sending in a patch to remove the pciids? To kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com and LKML...00:50
Kanothats something i can not do00:50
amitkBecause?00:51
Kanoi do not write kernel patches, the max is that i seek for code to make a driver work with a new kernel00:51
Kanotherefore i did not announce my own variant of the dmraid45 patch for 2.6.24, but i would suggest to use it as soon as one official one appears like i did not the 2.6.22 kernel - you find still my message in your list00:52
amitkThen you might be better served writing email to the above email address with the pciids you want removed and your reasons. Putting it on IRC on a Friday night is a hard way get this fixed.00:53
Kanoall?00:53
Kanoas they are the same00:53
Kanoi think it is easy enough to verify this with modinfo00:53
amitkPut it in email so it does not get lost00:54
Kanohttp://www.nabble.com/please-add-dm-raid45-2.6.22.1-20070724.patch.bz2-p13426286.html00:54
Kanothat was my mail last time00:54
Kanothere is no final 2.6.24 out therefore no offical patch for it yet00:54
Kanobut thats a needed one00:55
Kanootherwise only kanotix will be able to use raid500:55
Kanoas i patch that always00:55
amitkThanks, Kano00:55
tjaaltonamitk: hey, are you working on lrm?00:56
amitktjaalton: sure00:56
Kanoamitk: additional to that patch you need updated dmraid00:57
Kanobut i can provide you that too, thats not the problem00:57
tjaaltonamitk: I sent an email to the list earlier this week (forgot the subject though) with a couple of fixes00:58
amitktjaalton: for the nvidia?00:59
tjaaltonamitk: that and the convenience package for fglrx-amdcccle01:00
Kanobtw. as you like your lrm package so much: ati updated fglrx01:00
tjaaltonwe know01:00
tjaaltonor, at least I do :)01:00
tjaaltonthe list of known issues is longer than the list of fixed ones..01:00
tjaaltonwhich is no news01:00
Kanoi think only the widescreen bug was fixed not much more01:01
tjaaltonpartly01:01
Kanothe most funny part was the modline fix mentioned in the release notes01:01
amitktjaalton: This week has been overloaded. We'll get to processing all the patches next week01:01
Kanohttp://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7427&page=201:01
Kanoone more modelines -> fatal server error for me...01:02
tjaaltonamitk: there are also some reports about not being able to uninstall nvidia*. I'd like to fix that too01:02
tjaaltonseems to affect amd64 only01:02
amitkok01:03
* amitk calls it a day. Have a good weekend guys01:03
tjaaltonhehe01:03
tjaalton"look at the time fly"01:03
tjaaltonsheesh01:03
tjaaltonI'll work on lrm this weekend and then send a patch on the kernel list..01:05
Kanotjaalton: do you need a fix for the avm drivers or did you find it on your own?02:02
Kanoi mean the objcopy -L hack02:04
Kanofrom Karsten Keil <kkeil@suse.de>02:05
mjg59Is it legal to distribute the modified binaries?02:06
Kanoi see no problem, i even got the test hardware for free02:08
Kanonobody will hurt you02:09
mjg59Yes, but what does the license say?02:09
Kanoread it if you like to02:09
mjg59You're the one offering the patch02:10
Kanoyou find it in my avm package02:11
Kanohttp://kanotix.com/files/thorhammer/kanotix/non-free/avm/avm_3.11-18.dsc02:11
Kanothis also adds a the cz mod of one driver02:11
Kanoif you want to add that to your repository be sure you have got drdsl for i386+amd64 in it02:13
Kanocapiinfo02:14
KanoNumber of Controllers : 202:14
KanoController 1:02:14
KanoManufacturer: AVM-GmbH02:14
KanoCPU[AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ clocked at 1000.000 Mhz]  Kernel[Linux 2.6.24-5-generic i686]  Up[-5:32-]  Mem[-284.8/2027.1MB-]  HDD[-800GB(90%used)-]  Procs[-144-]  Client[Konversation 1.0.1]02:14
Kanothe drivers work02:14
Kanoas long as you know how to use em ;)02:15
Kanolook for fxusb_cz special handlinng02:16
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Toma-https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/156050/comments/1306:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 156050 in linux-source-2.6.22 "r8180 and ieee80211_rtl cause total system lockup." [Undecided,Won't fix] 06:38
Toma-could someone PLEASE re-enable this driver? at least so it can be tested?06:38
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Lurecan somebody define upstream packaging for linux-source 2.6.2[04] packages, so that we could link to upstream bugs at bugzilla.kernel.org (and use LP's bug tracking)?07:57
Lurefor bug 104837, I was unable to add link to upstream bug tracker, as the upstream link is not defined07:58
ubotuLaunchpad bug 104837 in linux-source-2.6.20 "kernel warns BUG: at fs/inotify.c:172 set_dentry_child_flags()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10483707:58
Lure[08:51] <persia> Lure: You'll first need to use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+edit-packaging to link the feisty kernel to an upstream project.  You may need to define the project.07:58
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lagabtw, i posted an updated patch to bug #182603 . are patches like that one actually suitable for inclusion? (no, not pushing, just wondering if there's any hope for me :))14:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 182603 in linux "Please add simple lhash patch for aufs" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18260314:05
amitklaga: is this patch not going to make it into 2.6.24?14:26
lagaamitk: i don't think the aufs maintainer has submitted it for inclusion yet. maybe he will do that when he submits aufs. 14:38
blueyedCan you confirm that my investigation on bug 177713 is correct?19:10
ubotuLaunchpad bug 177713 in boinc "2.6.24-2: Regression with idle cpu cycle handling" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17771319:10
crimsunyes19:17
crimsunI was just about to comment that CFS is "causing" that19:17
blueyedOk. So all those "use idle cpu in the background" programs need to get patched to change the cpu_share value for their user to something like 2?19:51
crimsunit's a feasible approach, but it would need more testing19:56
blueyedI think it's cumbersome to change all those packages. To be more futureproof we might want to use cgroups instead and put those scripts in this group - to make it easier to just apply cpu_share=2 to all of them.19:59
blueyedbtw: I don't think cfs is good in this regard: a totally niced process from another user should not hug the whole cpu slices assigned to this user.19:59
blueyedI've linked a patch in the lkml post, it may be worth testing, if it applies and makes sense (just skimmed it)20:01
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