[00:36] <bassinboy> how can i get to Restricted Driver Manager from xubuntu?
[00:38] <soldats> applications > system ? restricted drivers
[00:38] <soldats> s/?//
[00:40] <bassinboy> i dont have it
[00:41] <jeriko> select all packages, not just supported
[00:41] <jeriko> top right i think
[00:41] <jeriko> er, nvm
[00:42] <jeriko> my reading comprehension is awol
[00:42]  * jeriko walks away mumbling
[00:48] <fiyawerx> hm
[00:48] <fiyawerx> can't get mp3 to play with xmms either
[00:49] <soldats> do you have the codecs
[00:49] <fiyawerx> have installed w32codecs and xubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:49] <soldats> !mp3
[00:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:50] <fiyawerx> like i said
[00:50] <fiyawerx> that tells you to do Search for ubuntu-restricted-extras and install it. Note that there is also xubuntu-restricted-extras and kubuntu-restricted-extras.
[00:50] <fiyawerx> which I did
[00:50] <soldats> hmm i installed them through synaptic
[00:52] <fiyawerx> gah
[00:53] <fiyawerx> i had grabbed an mp3 from easynews to try it with, I think the mp3 was bad :-\
[00:53] <fiyawerx> it does work :)
[00:54] <soldats> :P
[00:54]  * fiyawerx hangs his head in shame
[00:54] <soldats> dont do that
[00:54] <soldats> common mistake
[00:55] <fiyawerx> well after all the stuff i installed i shouldn't have any codec problems for a while
[00:55] <fiyawerx> lol
[00:56] <soldats> yea
[01:02] <mixed> anyone know if I can run Quake III on xubuntu?
[01:02] <soldats> through wine afaik, ask in #winehq some of them are wine experts
[01:04] <mixed> soldats, I already installed it on my ubuntu distro, now i want to use xfce instead of gnome
[01:05] <soldats> sure it should run the same
[01:05] <mixed> ok i just finished downloading xubuntu, I"ll just run quake on xfce and see if it works
[01:05] <soldats> xfce is just less bloated gnome
[01:09] <fiyawerx> altho thunar > nautilus
[01:10] <soldats> > == better
[01:10]  * fiyawerx nods
[01:10] <soldats> its smaller and faster IMO
[01:11] <fiyawerx> I dont think I'd ever use gnome, xfce or kde for me, both are pretty fast on my system, i just like how clean xfce is
[01:11] <fiyawerx> hmm, by default all streams want to open with totem from firefox, how can i change that?
[01:12] <soldats> true. i enjoy e16 as well though since its way smaller
[01:12] <soldats> theres a plugin for it afaik. you can look for it in synaptic since i dont recall the name
[01:13] <fiyawerx> oh wow, lots of plugins
[01:13] <fiyawerx> heh
[01:13] <jeriko> fiyawerx: in FF: edit -> prefs -> content -> manage
[01:13] <jeriko> or just apt-get remove totem
[01:13] <fiyawerx> jeriko, : thats all blank
[01:14] <jeriko> fiyawerx: if blank, then it shouldn't have a default association
[01:14] <soldats> fiyawerx, search synaptic for totem and look for the firefox part. i used gxine for mine
[01:14] <jeriko> meaning you get the popup box asking how you want to play/save the file
[01:14] <fiyawerx> when i click on a stream, it doesnt by default, but the only option ... right
[01:15] <fiyawerx> the only option in the popup is totem
[01:15] <jeriko> so choose something else, then click the box for default
[01:15] <jeriko> once you click that default box, you will see the association in ff
[01:16] <fiyawerx> ah, you have to hit other and browse to the specific /usr/bin/xmms, ok
[01:16] <fiyawerx> its in there now
[01:26] <tehk> Can anyone suggest a xfrun alternative?
[01:47] <bassinboy> anyone have broadcom wireless working on hardy heron alpha 3?
[01:48] <crimsun> yes
[01:50] <bassinboy> did you use ndiswrapper ?
[01:50] <crimsun> no
[01:51] <crimsun> 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
[01:51] <crimsun> and I used b43-fwcutter
[01:53] <bassinboy> crimsun: i have the exact card, well, rev 2, but i couldn't get it working with (actually, i used bcm43xx-fwcutter)
[01:54] <bassinboy> do you know if b43-fwcutter is significantly different
[01:55] <bassinboy> my lspci will show the device yet there is no wlan0
[01:57] <bassinboy> "b43 offers a newer codebase and hardware crypto support."
[01:57] <bassinboy> sweet
[01:59] <crimsun> you must use b43-fwcutter with b43.ko
[01:59] <crimsun> I don't know offhand if rev 02 will even work
[02:01] <bassinboy> does this look right to you
[02:01] <bassinboy> sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware driver/wl_apsta_mimo.o
[02:02] <crimsun> no
[02:02] <crimsun> I highly doubt you want to use that directory
[02:02] <crimsun> err, sorry
[02:03] <crimsun> my terminal fonts are screwed, and I thought you had an underscore between the 'e' in firmware and the 'd' in driver
[02:03] <crimsun> yes, that should work
[02:04] <bassinboy> crimsun: K, it's throwing "sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by b43-fwcutter..."
[02:04] <bassinboy> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware
[02:06] <bassinboy> rev 2 is supported, i'm not sure if the "(needs patches for 2.6.24)" is including rev 2 though
[02:07] <bassinboy> it does indeed look like i need a different version of b43
[02:08] <crimsun> I use a self-compiled b43
[02:08] <crimsun> (I'm using 2.6.23.14)
[02:12] <bassinboy> oh crap, i just noticed a link for x.x.24
[02:16] <bassinboy> crimsun: i got the fw to extract, but i am unsure of what to do nect
[02:16] <bassinboy> next*
[02:17] <crimsun> make sure the newer b43 is loaded
[02:17] <bassinboy> as a kernel module?
[02:17] <crimsun> yes
[02:18] <bassinboy> i feel stupid for not knowing fwcutter was a module
[02:18] <bassinboy> dang, i loaded the module and still no wlan0
[02:19] <crimsun> fwcutter isn't a kernel module
[02:19] <crimsun> I have an wlan0_rename
[02:19] <crimsun> have a*, rather
[02:22] <bassinboy> well, i loaded b43 as the module
[02:23] <bassinboy> do you have to generate network devices ?
[02:24] <crimsun> no
[02:24] <crimsun> which drop of compat-wireless are you usinG?
[02:25] <crimsun> -rw-r--r-- 1 crimsun crimsun  1170639 2008-01-15 19:50 compat-wireless-2.6.tar.bz2
[02:25] <crimsun> so mine's from the 15th
[02:25] <ApacheNoob> hello
[02:25] <ApacheNoob> I have a simple problem
[02:25] <ApacheNoob> I just need to know how to get a good ftp and html server running on this computer
[02:26] <bassinboy> crimsun: i dont have compat-wireless
[02:26] <crimsun> bassinboy: that's where the new drop is
[02:28] <bassinboy> crimsun: is that a package available through ubuntu repos
[02:29] <crimsun> no
[02:29] <crimsun> you'd have to use it to build a newer b43.ko
[02:29] <bassinboy> what is a drop?
[02:30] <crimsun> a codedrop, in this case, a snapshot of the everything branch of the linux 2.6 wireless tree
[02:30] <crimsun> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download#Wheretodownload
[02:31] <bassinboy> interesting
[02:31] <bassinboy> so what purpose does b43-fwcutter hold?
[02:31] <crimsun> it extracts the firmware necessary to use b43.ko
[02:32] <crimsun> ApacheNoob: like vsftpd and lighttpd?
[02:32] <crimsun> ApacheNoob: you can use apt-get, dselect, aptitude, synaptic, $whatever to install them
[02:58] <bassinboy> crimsun: interesting issue, when i try to make install, (as sudo), it's lookign for all the files in root /
[04:09] <bassinboy> crimsun: i finally got compat-wireless to compile, but it is blowing up when i modprobe
[04:13] <bassinboy> i want to try your kernel but it's not on the repos lol
[04:13] <bassinboy> why is life so hard
[07:36] <nikolam> hi to all
[07:36] <nikolam> do you use some programs from hardy?
[07:37] <nikolam> I want to install some newer versions from hardy in my current 7.10/gutsy
[07:37] <nikolam> is it advisable? I am thinking to download packages and install them one by one
[07:38] <nikolam> or should I add hardy repository?
[07:39] <nikolam> i got important security updates and recoomended updates for gutsy selected
[07:46] <nikolam> Maybe I should add hardy repository, select that i want to use gutsy versions in synaptic repository preferences and then just install hardy versions of programs i want, while i remain on gutsy?
[07:46] <TheSheep> nikolam: I think it would be stablier to have a full Hardy installation
[07:47] <TheSheep> nikolam: mixing packages from two distros can be bad
[07:47] <TheSheep> nikolam: then again, upgrading may be a little bumpy when hardy is not ready yet
[07:47] <nikolam> I agree. But Just one program? I already have some programs from getdeb.net, (pidgin, etc) that are newer
[07:48] <TheSheep> nikolam: why do you need a newer one?
[07:48] <nikolam> I will definately stay on gutsy for every day use
[07:48] <nikolam> I dont know, maybe some security patches in iceape invoked me to upgrade
[07:50] <nikolam> Ok, I will not be messing with Hardy packages yet. I had an issue with xfce 4.4.2 manual install with installer, anyway and when i get back to default gutsy packages, everything was fine.
[07:51] <nikolam> Besides that I now use pcmanf instead of always-crashing thunar.
[07:51] <nikolam> pcmanfm
[10:17] <jaggy>  hey , can anyone help me ? whenever i try to connect to nessus , i fail :s
[10:17] <TheSheep> nessus?
[10:17] <jaggy> yes nessus
[10:18] <jaggy> nessus is a port scanner =_=
[10:23] <TheSheep> you connect to a port scanner?
[10:23] <jaggy> yes ...
[11:28] <nanbudh> i cannot access 192.168.1.1 my NETGEAR ROUTER from my main machine wired thru ethernet to the router(though  internet is working fine) while i can access it all fine on the same machine when i have booted up windows XP.
[11:28] <nanbudh> the page starts to open but 'hangs' so to say
[11:31] <totalwormface> i dub it 'silly'
[11:32] <totalwormface> it's probably not a question about browser plugins, because i'm personally going to kick someone who makes a non plugin free router control unit
[11:33] <totalwormface> and not one of dynamic / static ip, because you make contact with the router (and have internet)
[11:33] <totalwormface> so, it's silly
[11:34] <nanbudh> :-) yes it must be silly, i have ye another problem. The other machine(which has the wireless card and is running xubuntu7.10) cannot access internet but does access the 192.168.1.1 ROUTER ADMIN Page. is this strange or what?
[11:36] <nanbudh> when connecting over wireless does one need to make addresses etc different from ones over a wired connection? i have tried all combinations on my xubuntu box with no success
[11:39] <nanbudh> the system>network>wireless connection>properties has password
[11:42] <nanbudh> the system>network>wireless connection>properties has password type as a drop down list in which i am forced to choose a type, while there is no security password or anything on my router settings. could this be reason that i am not able to access internet over the wireless card? and if yes do i need to set a password in my router settings?
[12:05] <grahamperrin> nanbudh: no two devices should have the same address, if that's what you mean
[12:06] <nanbudh> but none have the same address, the main machine and the wireless one have diff ip addresses?
[12:06] <grahamperrin> ok
[16:02] <bassinboy> has anyone install kde?
[16:03] <predaeus> bassinboy, do you mean kubuntu? or installation of kde in xubuntu?
[16:04] <netpappy> Hey - any Xubuntu IRC Client recommendations?
[16:04] <totalwormface> netpappy: irssi
[16:06] <netpappy> thanks - going to check it out
[16:06] <bassinboy> kde in xubuntu via package installer
[16:07] <bassinboy> predaeus: i want to see what kde4 is like
[16:17] <HlfShell> hello everyone. I'm having an odd bug with xfce4-panel. it seems my panel spawns 4 or 5 nm-applets and i can't seem tog et rid of them....
[16:18] <TheSheep> HlfShell: delete the files in ~/.cache/sessions/ and don't save the session on logout
[16:20] <HlfShell> thats the thing- the sessions been saved....
[16:21] <HlfShell> 0r is that going to work no matter what?
[16:21] <HlfShell> i dont seem to have a /.cache/sessions
[16:22] <HlfShell> nm i do
[16:22] <HlfShell> so if i delete everything in that folder my desktop and panel is just going to return to normal?
[16:27] <HlfShell> TheSheep, just wanted to let you know it worked perfectly. Thanks!
[17:22] <FactTech> Hello, all -- Just upgraded to 7.10 and most things have transitioned well. However, I notice that the volume control knob and mute button on my keyboard are no longer working. Anybody know how to fix this? I found a couple of web pages with similar issues but no solutions.
[18:01] <TheSheep> FactTech: set your keyboard type to the keyboard you actually own
[18:02] <FactTech> TheSheep: Using the Settings, Keyboard Settings control panel? I tried that, but after I close the panel, the checkbox for "Use X configuration" always comes back on.
[18:03] <FactTech> TheSheep: Incidentally, are you literally the only person ever providing answers on #xubuntu? :)
[18:06] <TheSheep> FactTech: no
[18:07] <TheSheep> FactTech: you can run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and change the X default then...
[18:08] <FactTech> TheSheep: Would the X default setting have been changed by the upgrade?
[18:08] <TheSheep> I don't think so
[18:08] <TheSheep> FactTech: ah, there was an user complaining that the default ocmmands set to "volume up" and "volume down" keys dont' work
[18:09] <TheSheep> FactTech: can you look into your keybindings, see what commands there are, and try to run them in a terminal?
[18:09] <FactTech> TheSheep: Sure, I'd be happy to, but I might need a little guidance... On the keyboard settings control panel, shortcuts tab -- is that what you mean for bindings?
[18:12] <FactTech> TheSheep: If that is what you mean, I see that the command "aumix -v0" is bound to shortcut "XF86 AudioMute", for example.
[18:14] <FactTech> TheSheep: When I try to execute "aumix -v0" in a terminal, I get a response that seems to indicate the package is missing. "The program 'aumix' can be found in the following packages: * aumix * aumix-gtk Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package> bash: aumix: command not found"
[18:14] <FactTech> TheSheep: Should I just install the aumix package and see if that fixes it? Is there any way to see that the input of pressing the button is registering?
[18:15] <TheSheep> yes
[18:15] <TheSheep> isntall it
[18:15] <FactTech> TheSheep: Would that mean a missing or broken dependency somewhere in the upgrade?
[18:15] <TheSheep> you can run 'xev' to see what keys are registered
[18:16] <TheSheep> FactTech: probably
[18:17] <FactTech> TheSheep: xev looks like it's definitely registering both dial-turning and button-pressing. I'll install the aumix package and get back to you. Thanks a bunch for the pointers, TheSheep.
[18:17] <FactTech> TheSheep: If installing the package fixes it, who would be the best person/group to report the bug to?
[18:21] <FactTech> TheSheep: Unfortunately, it didn't fix the issue. I installed the aumix-gtk package. Running "aumix -v0" from a terminal does not mute the sound, and it issues response " aumix:  SOUND_MIXER_READ_DEVMASK"
[18:22] <crimsun> is this gutsy?
[18:22] <FactTech> crimsun: Yes, just upgraded to 7.10 from 7.04 via "Update Manager"
[18:22] <crimsun> if so, it's a known issue; aumix source just needs a rebuild.
[18:23] <FactTech> crimsun: Maybe I missed the page that discusses this one. Can you tell me a URL or some keywords to look for?
[18:25] <FactTech> crimsun: Unfortunately, I'm still enough of a newbie that "aumix source just needs a rebuild" does not suggest a course of action to me. :)
[18:25] <crimsun> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aumix/+bug/145805
[18:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 145805 in aumix "aumix throws error aumix:  SOUND_MIXER_READ_DEVMASK" [Medium,Confirmed]
[18:25] <FactTech> crimsun: Much obliged, I'll look into it.
[18:32] <FactTech> crimsun: I read over the page. Looks like I'm not the first to run up against this one, but I didn't spot any step-by-steps on how to go about fixing it. Is there any way to rebuild the package using an automated tool? I have built packages manually but would really rather not go behind the back of synaptic/apt-get for something that is in the repository and sure to get an update down the road.
[18:33] <crimsun> unfortunately I don't have a good answer for it.
[18:33] <crimsun> I'll see if I can put some work into that SRU this afternoon.
[18:43] <FactTech> crimsun: If you do get a chance, it looks like me and several other users would appreciate it very much. Coincidentally enough, it looks like this bug indirectly made the front page on digg.com. (http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/The_Ubuntu_bug_reporting_culture_) I'm not going to demand instant service for a FOSS operating system I'm not even skilled enough to contribute to, but I will thank you profusely for a published fix. Thank
[18:43] <FactTech> s again.
[18:44] <crimsun> url seems dead?
[18:48] <FactTech> crimsun: Try http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/The_Ubuntu_bug_reporting_culture
[18:50] <crimsun> thanks.
[20:00] <jluk> hello
[20:08] <graelb> Hi there
[20:09] <graelb> I'm trying to either change or remove the need for, the password on my "keyring"?
[20:35] <eagle-101> hey all, I have a copy of xubuntu hardy running, where might I find things to break (ie, what has changed?)
[20:38] <TheSheep> eagle-101: the release notes? probably on the xubuntu website, hang on
[20:38] <eagle-101> TheSheep, thanks, I have a copy in a virtual machine here :)
[20:38]  * eagle-101 notes a few startup problems. 
[20:39] <TheSheep> wait, it's hardy, it hans't been released yet, there are no release notes
[20:40] <eagle-101> TheSheep, yeah, but I"m looking for things that have been changed :)
[20:40] <TheSheep> eagle-101: just look into the repository and see the commit history...
[20:41] <eagle-101> ah I found a link, its in the channel topic :D
[20:41]  * eagle-101 will have to take a screenshot of the problematic login window
[20:41] <TheSheep> ah
[20:42] <TheSheep> eagle-101: sorry
[20:43] <eagle-101> TheSheep, you can see it at http://lineagle.unixpod.com/xubuntu-login.png :)
[20:43] <eagle-101> oh TheSheep nothing to be sorry for!
[20:44] <eagle-101> I suppose I should bug report that :) /me goes to read up on what they expect
[20:45] <TheSheep> eagle-101: it would be the xubuntu-default-settings package, I suppose
[20:46] <eagle-101> TheSheep, mmm yeah something is broken there.
[20:46] <TheSheep> eagle-101: but I think they are working on a new login screen for Hardy
[20:46] <eagle-101> TheSheep, so... worth reporting, or no?
[20:46] <TheSheep> eagle-101: every bug is worth reporting
[20:47] <eagle-101> alrighty :D
[20:48] <eagle-101> TheSheep, suspect they will want any more then the screenshot?
[20:48] <eagle-101> lsmod, lspci? anything else?
[20:48] <TheSheep> eagle-101: yes, what kind of emulator is that, what resolution, what settings
[20:49] <eagle-101> alright
[20:49] <TheSheep> eagle-101: the exact version you tested too
[20:49] <eagle-101> alpha3
[20:49] <TheSheep> eagle-101: if it's a nightly build, provide build date
[20:49] <eagle-101> TheSheep, ah, no nightly
[20:49]  * eagle-101 did not realize there was a nightly :P
[20:52] <TheSheep> wow, firefox finally integrates with the system
[20:52]  * TheSheep investigates
[21:03] <eagle-101> TheSheep, bug posted :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/184435
[21:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 184435 in ubuntu "xubuntu alpha3 login display issues" [Undecided,New]
[22:44] <Steve15> good evening, i've a little problem with my x-server: http://phpfi.com/290872
[22:45] <Steve15> instead of using the resolutions from xorg.conf, it does use 800x600 only :/
[22:49] <thruxton> Steve14: it looks like it dosent like your h/v sync settings
[22:49] <thruxton> II) NV(0): ASUS LS201ÿÿ: Using default hsync range of 31.50-37.90 kHz
[22:50] <thruxton> (II) NV(0): ASUS LS201ÿÿ: Using default vrefresh range of 50.00-70.00 Hz
[22:50] <thruxton> are you sure those are correct for your monitor?
[22:50] <Steve14> thruxton: should be, the lcd has ddc
[22:51] <thruxton> your getting a lot of hrefresh vrefresh out of range errors
[22:51] <Steve14> maybe it's up to the old tnt2 chip :/
[22:52] <Steve14> Is it nvs fault, isn't it?
[22:52]  * thruxton shrugs
[22:54] <Steve14> i'll try nvidia after i've updated my xubuntu system :)
[22:55] <thruxton> :)
[23:01] <Steve14> little restart, cya in a greater resolution soon, hopefully
[23:33] <HipShot> Hey...i'm new with ubuntu and everything, and I downloaded this VIA unichrome driver package from viaarena
[23:33] <HipShot> and I was wondering how do you install it?