[09:37] <ojwb> there's an incorrect (or at least confusing) link on http://www.edubuntu.org/Download for DVD download
[09:37] <ojwb> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dvd/current/ which is for daily hardy snapshots
[09:38] <ojwb> rather than http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/7.10/release/
[09:38] <ojwb> which has the 7.10 DVDs
[09:38] <ojwb> if there's a better place to report this, let me know
[09:39] <ojwb> the comment before says "Edubuntu 7.10 DVD's are available from the following links:"
[10:11] <ogra> ojwb, theer is an edubuntu-website product on lauchpad, you can file it as a bug there
[12:46] <ojwb> ogra: ah, obvious really - I'll report there
[12:56] <ojwb> hmm, I've just installed from the 7.10 i386 DVD
[12:56] <ojwb> I enabled the nvidia restricted driver
[12:56] <ojwb> then fetched the updates
[12:56] <ojwb> and it's saying they aren't authenticated
[12:57] <ojwb> software sources shows the CD and archive keys are installed
[12:57] <ojwb> is this a known issue?
[13:12] <ogra> ojwb, dont use the edubuntu-server iso, use ubuntu-alternate, edubuntu will become an addon to that in hardy, theer is no development going on on the old edubuntu-server CD
[13:13] <laga> hey ogra :)
[13:13] <ogra> hey
[13:13]  * ogra is in a rush atm, preparing for a flight
[13:13] <laga> ogra: thanks for your suggestion to add mythbuntu-diskless to ltsp. couldn't have made my life any easier
[13:14] <ogra> laga, thanks for the patch :)
[13:14] <ojwb> um, this is for 7.10 though
[13:14] <laga> ogra: have a nice flight then :)
[13:14] <ogra> ojwb, oh
[13:14] <ojwb> FWIW, I deleted a duplicate but disabled DVD source in "software sources", and it updated the package lists and seems to be fetching now
[13:14] <ogra> laga, it would be nice to have the patch generate en_GB and set that as default to avoid all the perl errors you get with LANG=C
[13:14] <laga> ogra: i've got another patch which will add NFS overlays (as opposed to the current tmpfs approach). it'll be configurable of course and not change the default behaviour. would that be accepted?
[13:14] <ojwb> in about 4 minutes, I'll see
[13:15] <laga> ogra: oh, that patch.
[13:15] <ogra> laga, sure
[13:15] <laga> ogra: why not use en_US? ;)
[13:15] <laga> ogra: great.
[13:15] <ogra> well, eb_GB is waht ubuntu defaults to if nothing is set
[13:15]  * laga currently has some trouble testing patches because he keeps breaking stuff ;)
[13:15] <ogra> so the chroot should behave similar
[13:15] <laga> ogra: ah. i thought it as en_US. ok, will do
[13:18] <ogra> hey, the rootdelay patch looks good, i'll merge that next week
[13:18] <laga> ogra: cool.
[13:18] <laga> ogra: i've just prepared the wake on lan patch.
[13:18] <laga> just needs testing.
[13:18] <ogra> oh, wow
[13:19]  * ogra isnt sure he has WOL capable HW here though
[13:19] <laga> i've also added nbdroot= and nbdswap= boot options so you can put kernel + initramfs on a pen drive for example
[13:19] <laga> ogra: i can test it. it's like four lines and not enabled by default ;)
[13:19] <ogra> nbdroot ? isnt that there already ?
[13:20] <laga> ogra: i don't think you can just pass in nbdroot=ip:path
[13:20] <laga> when you boot the kernel
[13:20] <ogra> you do
[13:20] <ogra> have a look at client/initramfs/scripts/ltsp_nbd
[13:20] <laga> if you can do that, i must have missed something fundamental about boot option parsing
[13:20] <ojwb> ogra: seems to be working now
[13:20] <ogra>    if [ -n "${nbdroot}" ]; then
[13:20] <ogra>                NBD_ROOT_SERVER=$( echo "${nbdroot}" | sed 's/:.*//')
[13:20] <ogra>                NBD_ROOT_PORT=$( echo "${nbdroot}" | sed 's/.*://')
[13:20] <laga> yes.
[13:21] <laga> but where is ${nbdroot} set?
[13:21] <ogra> that parsdes nbdroot
[13:21] <ojwb> I guess it had only fetched some of the package files when it downloaded the nvidia driver
[13:21] <ogra> laga, as kernel option :)
[13:22] <ogra> if [ -n "${nbdroot}" ] checks if it exists as kernel option
[13:22] <laga> ogra: if you take a look at /usr/share/initramfs/init you can see that nbdroot is not parsed there
[13:22] <ogra> doesnt need to
[13:22] <laga> oh.
[13:22] <laga> it's magic.
[13:22] <ogra> the kernel parses it and adds it to the env
[13:22] <laga> good, thank you.
[13:23] <laga> that saves me some work actually. great. :)
[13:23] <ogra> anyway, i need to go on packing :)
[13:23] <laga> :)
[13:35] <juliux> hey ogra
[13:35] <juliux> ogra, are you fine wiht edubuntu coffee mugs?
[16:04] <stgraber> argh, looks like we have a small problem with italc and ltsp :)
[16:05] <stgraber> I can run ica (client daemon) on a custom port (different one for each thin client) but I can't tell the admin interface which port to connect to ...
[21:25] <soberano> Is it possible to "upgrade" to Edubuntu from an Ubuntu install?
[21:26] <stgraber> yes
[21:26] <soberano> stgraber: easy process?
[21:26] <stgraber> installing the "edubuntu-desktop" package should do it
[21:26] <soberano> ok... I'll check it out... thanks
[21:26] <stgraber> if you want ltsp it's a bit harder (one more package to install and a couple of cmd)
[21:26] <stgraber> is that for a desktop or a server (LTSP) ?
[21:28] <soberano> I've installed Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn in parallels, Mac OS X; but I wanted Edubuntu... now I"m upgrading to Gibbon.. but the Edubuntu install for me didn't work on my Mac
[21:28] <soberano> so I'm looking for the desktop/singler user edition
[21:29] <stgraber> ok, so just upgrade your ubuntu to Gutsy Gibbon
[21:29] <stgraber> then install edubuntu-desktop