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* stdin gives up and heads to bed | 01:10 | |
nixternal | KDE 4 stalls at 2.6MB downloaded during downloading...now that is annoying... | 02:05 |
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nixternal | apachelogger_: fix that ^^ :p | 02:05 |
* nixternal goes and watches a movie | 02:05 | |
apachelogger_ | lol | 02:07 |
apachelogger_ | nixternal: that bug appears totally random and is around for ever | 02:07 |
apachelogger_ | hm | 02:07 |
apachelogger_ | cool | 02:07 |
apachelogger_ | I broke kdm again | 02:07 |
apachelogger_ | woohoo | 02:09 |
apachelogger_ | that ain't logical | 02:09 |
apachelogger_ | stuff breaks without touching it | 02:09 |
apachelogger_ | lovely | 02:09 |
* apachelogger_ goes to bad | 02:09 | |
apachelogger_ | ah | 02:09 |
apachelogger_ | first some karma for kdm | 02:10 |
apachelogger_ | nini | 02:10 |
Nightrose | nini apachelogger_ | 02:10 |
Nightrose | :) | 02:10 |
* claydoh uploaded his first package to his ppa | 02:31 | |
* claydoh crosses fingers.... | 02:31 | |
raw | Hi, where's the custom session in kdm gone? | 03:13 |
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mornfall | Ghaa! | 09:38 |
mornfall | Hi, anyone willing to do a little testing for me? : - ). | 10:01 |
emonkey | -v | 10:06 |
mornfall | I am preparing packages for adept 3.0~alpha1. But there are some issues... | 10:07 |
mornfall | First, I am on debian sid, so they may need to be rebuilt for (k)ubuntu. | 10:07 |
mornfall | Second, they are not built yet, so give me a few minutes. | 10:08 |
Lure | mornfall: you can upload them to ppa | 10:15 |
mornfall | No idea what ppa is. | 10:15 |
emonkey | mornfall, Unfortunately I've to go in a few minutes ... | 10:15 |
mornfall | And then, I have no way to build on (k)ubuntu myself. | 10:16 |
mornfall | Maybe if someone is willing to rebuild it and upload there, that would be good. | 10:16 |
Lure | Your personal package archive: if you have LP account, you have PPA too and can easily build for any version of ubuntu | 10:16 |
emonkey | PPA is something like the suse build service | 10:17 |
Lure | mornfall: I can also upload to my ppa if you want | 10:17 |
mornfall | Interesting. | 10:17 |
mornfall | Give me a minute. | 10:17 |
Lure | will be back in cca 1 hour or so (need to get to playground with may daughter) | 10:17 |
Lure | mornfall: it is really easy to enable and use: https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart | 10:18 |
mornfall | Let me see. | 10:20 |
mornfall | http://anna.fi.muni.cz/~xrockai/adept-3-deb/ | 10:38 |
mornfall | Going to try the PPA thingy. | 10:38 |
mornfall | Anyone, what suite should these go to? I have kdelibs5-dev in builddepends. | 10:56 |
Lure | mornfall: did you manage to do it with ppa? | 11:44 |
mornfall | Lure: Not yet, I just tried to upload again. | 11:44 |
mornfall | The first got rejected because they have unstable in changelog. | 11:44 |
Lure | mornfall: yep, just put hardy | 11:44 |
mornfall | PPA uploads must be signed by an 'ubuntero'. | 11:48 |
mornfall | (Rejected therefore.) | 11:48 |
Lure | mornfall: yep, you need to sign Ubuntu Code of Conduct | 11:48 |
mornfall | Ergh. | 11:48 |
Lure | mornfall: will try to upload to my ppa | 11:48 |
Lure | mornfall: so libept and adept3.0? | 11:49 |
mornfall | Lure: All that's in that url -- they build-depend in a chain. | 11:49 |
mornfall | Lure: Also, if apt-xapian-index (from Debian) is not in ubuntu, it is required for runtime. | 11:50 |
* Sime has managed to apply the "show apps from current desktop only in the taskbar" feature from KDE's SVN to 4.0.0, and it works. | 11:55 | |
Lure | mornfall: apt-xapian-index is version 0.4 in hardy, so probably ok | 11:56 |
mornfall | Great. | 11:56 |
Lure | Sime: please send patch to apachelogger__... (would like to have this even if break i18n freeze) | 11:56 |
mornfall | The package also now got ACCEPTed. | 11:56 |
Sime | Lure: what is his address? | 11:57 |
Lure | Sime: apachelogger@u.c | 11:57 |
Lure | Sime: he does most of kde4 package uploads currently | 11:58 |
mornfall | Lure: How long does it ~ take for the build to start? | 11:58 |
jpatrick | mornfall: less than an hour | 11:58 |
mornfall | Hm, hour. | 12:01 |
Lure | mornfall: https://launchpad.net/+builds - seems buildd for ppa are not under load, so it should be sooner (just to be picked up by cron scripts) | 12:03 |
mornfall | Well, they still need to go through 3 rounds. | 12:03 |
mornfall | If they work at all. | 12:04 |
mornfall | Anyhow, if someone is willing to test locally, grab from http://anna.fi.muni.cz/~xrockai/adept-3-deb/. Off to chop wood. | 12:04 |
mornfall | Laters. | 12:04 |
Lure | mornfall: btw, all three accepted to my ppa too, so will see who will be faster (if mine build at all as I am beyond space limit) ;-) | 12:04 |
mornfall | Hm, nothing new. And no more wood. | 12:40 |
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danimo | does nspluginviewer embedding work for anyone in KDE 4? | 13:25 |
mornfall | Lure: Can you try installing adept from deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/me-mornfall/ubuntu hardy main ? Or anyone... | 13:29 |
mornfall | I am off for a walk now, but would be great if someone tried them out : - ). See the notes at https://launchpad.net/~me-mornfall/+archive as well. | 13:30 |
mornfall | Laters | 13:30 |
smarter | danimo: doesn't work for me | 13:31 |
nixternal | danimo: doesn't work for me, it pops up little windows for nspluginviewer | 13:42 |
jpatrick | danimo: it works sometimes for me | 13:45 |
smarter | same as nixternal | 13:45 |
smarter | i use r48 I think | 13:45 |
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apachelogger__ | Sime: is the implimentation complete yet? | 14:27 |
apachelogger__ | last I checked it was only at a very basic state | 14:27 |
Sime | apachelogger__: how complete does it need to be? I works here, although a little bit slow. | 14:32 |
apachelogger__ | bah, I just broke amarok's toolbar graphic -.- | 14:38 |
Sime | apachelogger__: I can later test how fast it works on KDE svn trunk. Maybe I missed a patch. | 14:39 |
apachelogger__ | seems to be fairly useable... http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=762830 fixes all the issues I had | 14:41 |
apachelogger__ | Sime: well, it ain't worth anything if it slows everything down even more | 14:41 |
apachelogger__ | plasma is really slow enough alrady IMO :P | 14:41 |
Sime | apachelogger__: the taskbar is slow to update when changing desktops. (~1 sec). The rest is the same. | 14:42 |
apachelogger__ | 1 sec? Oo | 14:42 |
apachelogger__ | omg | 14:42 |
apachelogger__ | Sime: maybe it depends on some of the speed improvements done earlier | 14:42 |
* apachelogger__ just wonders... when aaron finds out... ohhhh, I don't wanna clean up afterwards ;-) | 14:43 | |
apachelogger__ | Sime: I'm a bit worried about the patch size | 14:45 |
apachelogger__ | you see, we have to maintain the patch until 4.1 gets out... which is quite some time | 14:45 |
apachelogger__ | maybe we can cut it down a bit | 14:45 |
Sime | apachelogger__: merge them down into one and try again. I think there is a bit of redudancy. | 14:48 |
apachelogger__ | woohoo :D | 14:50 |
Sime | is that a good woohoo? | 14:51 |
apachelogger__ | Sime: that is a sarcastic woohoo ;-) | 14:51 |
apachelogger__ | you know, I'm pretty much all reversed, like I say cool when something sux, or that I first implement code, then wrap it in a function, then make that function an private object and then wrap that in a class ;-) | 14:52 |
apachelogger__ | lol | 14:57 |
apachelogger__ | I was running my svn session all the time | 14:57 |
apachelogger__ | that explains a lot :D | 14:57 |
* apachelogger__ kicks kdm again | 14:57 | |
apachelogger__ | !info kde4 hardy | 14:59 |
ubotu | kde4 (source: meta-kde4): the K Desktop Environment version 4 official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2 (hardy), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB | 14:59 |
Lure | mornfall: libept did not build http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11450355/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.libept_0.5.13.ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 14:59 |
apachelogger__ | stdin_: where should we place bug 184544 ? it's not really a kdebase bug, since apt is 3rd party | 15:00 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 184544 in kdebase-kde4 "apt kio-slave missing in konqueror-kde4" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184544 | 15:00 |
Lure | Hobbsee: do you understand what is wrong with kdepim upload? | 15:01 |
Hobbsee | Lure: yeah | 15:02 |
Hobbsee | i'm fixing it | 15:02 |
smarter | I put some ideas for k-d-s-kde4 and k-d-kde4 in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Todo | 15:02 |
Lure | Hobbsee: -sd instead od -sa? | 15:02 |
Hobbsee | yeah | 15:02 |
Lure | Hobbsee: I know the feeling ;-) | 15:03 |
Jucato | apachelogger__: change the package affected to kio-apt? | 15:03 |
Lure | smarter: great, please add this to topic for next meeting (to review it) | 15:03 |
smarter | Lure: ok | 15:03 |
apachelogger__ | Lure: that meeting is gonna take 5 hours | 15:11 |
apachelogger__ | smarter: I don't get 'kickoff kubuntu branding here instead of patching kdebase-workspace' | 15:11 |
Lure | apachelogger__: does not need to if somebody proposes action items | 15:11 |
Lure | apachelogger__: would be nice if patch would not include kubuntu stuff, but read it from config file | 15:12 |
smarter | Lure said it for me ;) | 15:13 |
Lure | apachelogger__: should patch might be accepted upstream for 4.0.x | 15:13 |
Jucato | "Put kickoff kubuntu branding in k-d-s instead of patching kdebase-workspace" | 15:14 |
Lure | s/should/such/ | 15:14 |
apachelogger__ | Lure: it's a suse patch, so they might have to get it upstream | 15:14 |
Jucato | smarter: "logo at the top right of konqueror" the animated one? | 15:15 |
smarter | Jucato: yes | 15:15 |
Jucato | ah the throbber | 15:15 |
Lure | apachelogger__: probably, it was agreed to some extend also on release-party: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-release-team&m=120078652611862&w=2 | 15:15 |
smarter | like in konqueror3 | 15:15 |
Jucato | yeah, it's called a throbber... for a second there you had me thinking of another icon :) | 15:16 |
* ryanakca weeps at not receiving any mockups | 15:31 | |
* ryanakca considers spamming the planet again | 15:31 | |
emonkey-t | ryanakca, still no answer? | 15:32 |
ryanakca | emonkey-t: none :S | 15:32 |
emonkey-t | :/ | 15:32 |
ryanakca | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/WebsiteMockups | 15:32 |
ryanakca | There's only the default template | 15:33 |
ryanakca | Oh well, I'm betting on UWN to give it some publicity | 15:33 |
emonkey-t | jep | 15:33 |
smarter | why is there no announce on kubuntu.org ? | 15:37 |
smarter | (for the contest) | 15:37 |
ryanakca | smarter: because nobody has gotten around to it / webmaster doesn't think it ought to go on it? | 15:40 |
* ryanakca shrugs | 15:40 | |
smarter | IMHO, people browsing on kubuntu.org are the most interested in a new website | 15:44 |
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mornfall | Lure: It seems to have passed in mine. | 15:55 |
Lure | mornfall: not really, failed log was from your ppa | 15:57 |
mornfall | Ah. Hm. | 15:57 |
mornfall | Sorry : - ). | 15:57 |
mornfall | I just seen 3 binary, ok and walked away... | 15:57 |
Lure | mornfall: https://launchpad.net/~me-mornfall/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all | 15:57 |
mornfall | Lure: Ah, right, failed tests (and I also know why). Hmh. | 15:58 |
Sime | funny, the media popup from KDE 3 appears in KDE 4 sessions if you are running a KDE 3 application. Logical but annoying. | 16:20 |
apachelogger_ | oh I hate it when I lose the connection | 17:47 |
Tm_T | oh I don't run my irc client in home | 17:49 |
Tm_T | ;) | 17:49 |
jpatrick | apachelogger_: get a server and screen irssi from there | 17:53 |
* Jucato was just pointed to the joys of irc bouncers... :) | 17:54 | |
Jucato | of course I still have to run the bouncer @ home... I don't think servers allow them | 17:54 |
apachelogger_ | irssi sux | 17:56 |
apachelogger_ | quassel ftw! | 17:56 |
apachelogger_ | anyway, I have no server, so :P | 17:56 |
smarter | apachelogger_: quassel has been released? | 17:57 |
apachelogger_ | nope | 17:57 |
apachelogger_ | but I actually have a snapshot pocket :P | 17:57 |
Jucato | hahah | 17:57 |
apachelogger_ | <-- probably has more packages for yet-unreleased software, than for released one | 17:58 |
nixternal | booyahkah | 17:58 |
nixternal | KDE 4 Gutsy LiveCD has no sound | 17:58 |
apachelogger_ | woohoo | 17:59 |
apachelogger_ | omg | 17:59 |
apachelogger_ | ! | 17:59 |
apachelogger_ | so amarok is useless | 17:59 |
apachelogger_ | that ain't nice -.- | 17:59 |
Lure | apachelogger_: btw, any progress on kdm-kde4 front? | 18:00 |
apachelogger_ | Lure: nope, it breaks on build for me, even though I don't touch the bit where it breaks | 18:01 |
apachelogger_ | I'm thinking on redoing the patches from scratch | 18:01 |
Lure | apachelogger_: I am now on hardy packages, so might have time to look into it tonight | 18:02 |
apachelogger_ | we should do this for the default configs at least | 18:02 |
apachelogger_ | Lure: well, it works so far | 18:02 |
apachelogger_ | it just look like shit | 18:02 |
apachelogger_ | and has some weird bugs | 18:02 |
apachelogger_ | like it messes with encoding for some reason | 18:02 |
Lure | apachelogger_: encoding? like i18n? | 18:02 |
apachelogger_ | yes | 18:03 |
apachelogger_ | like umlauts and accents are b0rked in translations | 18:03 |
apachelogger_ | I think even in dolphin | 18:03 |
Lure | apachelogger_: ok, will try slovenian version of kde4 then | 18:04 |
apachelogger_ | k | 18:04 |
blizzzek | re | 18:12 |
lucky_lucas | Hi, is there any chance to have a very preview of the simon speech to text in kubuntu ? It's written in qt4 | 18:50 |
lucky_lucas | www-simon-lstens.org | 18:52 |
lucky_lucas | www.simon-listens.org | 18:52 |
Lure | apachelogger_: is kde4 translated for you at all? my slovenian install only has .desktop file translations, the rest is in english | 19:01 |
smarter | french translation works fine | 19:02 |
Lure | smarter: interesting. you using just hardy packages? | 19:04 |
Lure | smarter: do you have kubuntu/kde3 also installed? | 19:04 |
smarter | Lure: nop, I'm on gutsy with ppa packages | 19:04 |
smarter | Lure: yes | 19:04 |
Lure | smarter: ok, I have installed hardy-server + kde4 meta package | 19:05 |
Lure | it might be that something is missing (depends) | 19:05 |
Lure | smarter: what does "env | 19:06 |
Lure | "env | grep LANG" return | 19:06 |
Lure | smarter: if you run in Konsole | 19:06 |
smarter | LANGUAGE=fr_FR:fr:en_GB:en LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 | 19:06 |
Lure | ok, that is the problem | 19:07 |
Lure | my LANGUAGE is empty | 19:07 |
smarter | LANGUAGE is set in /etc/environment here | 19:08 |
Lure | smarter: yep, you have probably set it with kde3 or during install | 19:10 |
smarter | it was during install I think | 19:11 |
Lure | smarter: my system was installed in english (server install) | 19:11 |
Lure | apachelogger_: btw, kdm takes ages to start here (like 3-5 minutes after boot, for the time I only see text console) | 19:14 |
jpatrick | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2008-January/025086.html | 19:16 |
* Lure purges and installs again | 19:16 | |
jpatrick | wth?^^^^^ | 19:17 |
Lure | jpatrick: talking about new kde4 package? ;-) | 19:17 |
jpatrick | Lure: in a passive sort of way | 19:19 |
Lure | apachelogger_: ok, that cured it - now it starts much faster | 19:19 |
Lure | stdin: around? | 19:22 |
stdin | Lure: for a little while | 19:23 |
apachelogger_ | cool :P | 19:23 |
Lure | stdin, apachelogger_: where do we want kdm-kde4 config: in /etc/kde4 or in /usr/lib/kde4/etc/kde4 ? | 19:24 |
Lure | there is currently mismatch between config files and /etc/init.d/kdm-kde4 script | 19:25 |
apachelogger_ | Lure: I've fixed it already | 19:25 |
apachelogger_ | goes in usr/lib as everything | 19:25 |
Lure | apachelogger_: ok, good | 19:25 |
* Lure fixes it locally | 19:26 | |
apachelogger_ | Lure: you better work somewhere else for now ;-) | 19:26 |
apachelogger_ | I fixed a lot crap in that regard | 19:26 |
apachelogger_ | I just need to get it compile properly so I can upload | 19:26 |
Lure | apachelogger_: did you also change DAEMON= to point to actual binary in /usr/lib/kde4/...? | 19:26 |
apachelogger_ | yep | 19:27 |
Lure | apachelogger_: ok, great | 19:27 |
jpatrick | apachelogger_: "dragonplayer has moved to kdemultimedia" | 21:00 |
apachelogger_ | I no | 21:00 |
jpatrick | :p | 21:00 |
apachelogger_ | jpatrick: dude, I'm working with it's dev everyday :P | 21:01 |
jpatrick | apachelogger_: and I'm working with you everyday :p | 21:01 |
apachelogger_ | work is overrated anyway | 21:01 |
jpatrick | hi mhb | 21:02 |
mhb | good evening | 21:02 |
ryanakca | mhb: no mockups :( | 21:05 |
* ryanakca looks for something to do and notices the ToDo link in the topic | 21:05 | |
jpatrick | yay | 21:08 |
jpatrick | ryanakca: I'll poke my contacts in kubuntu-es, see if they can come up with anything | 21:08 |
ryanakca | jpatrick: thanks :D | 21:08 |
* ryanakca wonders if he should make the kubuntu-desktop-kde4 metapackage | 21:09 | |
jpatrick | ryanakca: don't mention it | 21:09 |
ryanakca | jpatrick: oh, btw, remember that promo material I translated a few months ago? | 21:09 |
ryanakca | Well... my teacher finally gave it back corrected on Thursday :) | 21:10 |
jpatrick | ryanakca: oh, yeah, I found a French version from ages ago laying around on the wiki from the old Kubuntu Marketing pages | 21:10 |
ryanakca | lol | 21:11 |
jpatrick | but you might want to push your updated one to the (hardly-used) branch | 21:12 |
ryanakca | hmm... since I've volunteered myself for making the kubuntu-desktop-kde4 , should it be provided by kubuntu-meta, or a seperate source package, since one goes to main and the other to universe? | 21:12 |
ryanakca | kk | 21:12 |
jpatrick | ryanakca: you might want to poke apachelogger_ or smarter about k-d-kde4 | 21:13 |
* ryanakca waits for their input | 21:17 | |
apachelogger_ | I dunno | 21:19 |
Lure | ryanakca: I would suspect kde4 will go to main too and Riddell mentioned that we cannot change seeds for some reasons yet | 21:19 |
apachelogger_ | probably we should create kubuntu-meta-kde4 | 21:19 |
ryanakca | Lure: seeds? | 21:19 |
Lure | ryanakca: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement | 21:21 |
Lure | ryanakca: meta package is just start of the mess needed | 21:21 |
ryanakca | Lure: ah, kk, thanks | 21:22 |
ryanakca | hmm... for some reason firefox and KDE4 don't seem to want to play nice with each other... | 21:22 |
hads | Works here | 21:23 |
Lure | ryanakca: yep, firefox looks ugly under kde4 (gtkqt does not work or something) | 21:23 |
jpatrick | Lure: Firefox is emulated GTK, no? | 21:24 |
Lure | jpatrick: probably, not sure really | 21:24 |
jpatrick | that's what I heard once | 21:25 |
ryanakca | Lure: that, and when you type in a text field on a page, or scroll, the pager and/or the the taskbar flickers | 21:26 |
Lure | ryanakca: I do not see that problem here - are you using desktop effects? | 21:27 |
Lure | ryanakca: I also recall one bug with firefox and nvidia | 21:27 |
* ryanakca grumbles at everything else on the Todo being taken and debates between getting back to learning C++ or doing bugs | 21:27 | |
ryanakca | yep, desktop effects, and yep, nvidia :) | 21:27 |
ryanakca | ... but firefox doesn't flicker, just it's little bubble on the taskbar and/or the desktop pager, depending on how the planets are aligned and the amount of black spots on the sun... | 21:28 |
Lure | ryanakca: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154830 | 21:28 |
ubotu | KDE bug 154830 in general "Plasmoids aren't correctly drawn when firefox is opened and you type something" [Normal,Resolved: invalid] | 21:28 |
ryanakca | hmm... mine doesn't go like that... it just goes fully transparent... wait... | 21:30 |
* ryanakca wonders if it has anything to do with the transparency effect | 21:30 | |
ryanakca | (transparent until I mouse over / click on it) | 21:30 |
* ryanakca updates nvidia | 21:32 | |
iRon | ryanakca: I want to ask about kubuntu site.. do you planning to redesign it's structure too? e.g. 'FAQ' section must be in Documentation.. Remove duplicate 'Wiki' links.. and so on.. | 21:32 |
ryanakca | iRon: yes | 21:32 |
iRon | ryanakca: I'm asking, because I've some experience in usability design.. | 21:32 |
ryanakca | iRon: full redesign... we're migrating to drupal. | 21:32 |
ryanakca | iRon: oooh :) | 21:33 |
iRon | ryanakca: also i know a good web designer.. will ask him for the help.. | 21:33 |
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jjesse | dang its cold outside | 21:50 |
todobg | can some1 fix this bug with libkdeprint.so.5 ? | 22:39 |
ryanakca | todobg: what bug? | 22:41 |
ryanakca | did you file it? | 22:41 |
todobg | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4base/+bug/164791 | 22:41 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 164791 in kde4base "libkdeprint.so.5: No such file or directory" [Undecided,New] | 22:41 |
ryanakca | heh, interesting... I might look into it... but no promises... | 22:42 |
todobg | huh | 22:42 |
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