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firecrotchThe suggested way is to use the update manager00:00
firecrotchErr... rather, using Adept00:00
adydasapplehypnosis: would using one of these work? http://mirror.ne.gov/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/00:00
firecrotchInstructions are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades00:01
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basculesudo aptitude install update-manager-core00:01
basculesudo do-release-upgrade00:01
basculeapparently :)00:01
firecrotchbascule:  that's for ubuntu-server00:02
vltbascule: I want the second track to play w/o any fades and the first one to fade out. Just found xmms with a fade plugin. Maybe I can set the exact fade durations there ...00:02
basculeany cli surely00:02
adydasdam gutsy and flashplugin issues00:03
saki_Is there anywya to get Kubuntu to install with Kernel 2.6.23.1?00:04
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crimsunneosaki: no.00:04
neosakiHow about creating my own install cd from a version I recompile with that kernel?00:05
basculehey, update-manager-core doesn't exist in desktop release ...00:05
bascule?00:05
crimsunsee the wiki for rolling your own install cd.00:05
crimsunbascule: how are you arriving at that conclusion?00:05
basculesudo aptitude install update-manager-core returns 0 oackages, or I already have the latest version :)00:06
crimsunbascule: update-manager-core has existed since feisty and even exists in edgy-{updates,proposed}00:06
basculejust realised that was maybe why00:06
ardchoille!info update-manager-core00:06
ubotuupdate-manager-core (source: update-manager): manage release upgrades. In component main, is standard. Version 1:0.81 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 2392 kB00:06
basculecrimsun: so if I wanted to update a release from the shell, that would do?00:07
adydashrm ok so i think ive installed perfetcly fine flashplugin youtube no longer asks for me to install it but the box is just grey00:07
adydasideas?00:07
Darkrift411ok, my distro upgrade seems to have locked up00:09
crimsunbascule: more precisely?00:09
Darkrift411it had a few errors, and hasnt moved in about 20 mins00:09
firecrotchDarkrift411:  what step is it on?00:10
Darkrift411if i try to close it, it says my system is in an unusable state if i close it00:10
Darkrift411the ugprade step00:10
Darkrift411installing upgrades00:10
firecrotchIs it downloading packages or is it configuring the new packages?00:10
Darkrift411installing upgrades00:10
basculecrimsun: do-release-upgrade python script would do the job from the shell for a release upgrade?00:10
Darkrift411its dl'd, configred and now its installing00:11
Darkrift411frozen at 2%, installing libglib2.0-200:11
Darkrift411after 2 errors00:11
Darkrift411x11-common failed during upgrade00:12
firecrotchDarkrift411:  What are the errors?00:12
Darkrift411debconf also failed00:12
ErtainHello everyone.  I've upgraded to version 0.12.8 of Kopete and the camera option still doesn't work.00:12
firecrotchDarkrift411:  the only thing I could possibly see working is killing the upgrade, and then trying dpkg --configure -a00:13
firecrotchDarkrift411:  That worked for me on a ubuntu-server install that I was upgrading the died on me00:13
crimsunbascule: or dist-upgrade00:14
Darkrift411db is locked by onother process00:14
basculecrimsun: back to the sources changing thing ....00:14
firecrotch!adeptfix | Darkrift41100:14
ubotuDarkrift411: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »00:14
Darkrift411gives same locked process error00:16
firecrotchDarkrift411:  You may have to reboot first, then run sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock00:17
Darkrift411crap00:17
Darkrift411hope the reboot doesnt kill my os00:17
firecrotchDarkrift411:  Well, you backed everything up before you started the upgrade, right ?00:18
val0ok i've got a strange problem. My router "says" that the port is open, but when an app tries to use it the app says that it's closed. any clue how to find out for sure? (nmap??) I don't have another app that I can use to test the port00:27
basculeval0: yeah nmap or hping00:28
val0bascule could you help me out with what the command should be, i've read the man pages but still having trouble coming up with something that works00:30
basculefor nmap? sudo nmap -vv <WAN_ip>00:31
basculeval0: but a firewall running on the locaclhost might drop the replies00:31
val0bascule i turned the firewall off for now, i was thinking that it was causing the issure00:32
basculemight be, what app and what issue (port block I guess)00:32
val0Azureus, port used to be 63674 and worked great for a few weeks. today i plugged my laptop into the router and it broke00:33
bascule hmmmm00:34
val0bascule can i query you?00:34
basculek00:34
sstchurI'm trying to change my monitor resolution.  It's a Samsung SYncmaster 226BW, which can do 1680x1050, but even though KDE4 detects my monitor, it doesn't give me an option to select that particular resolution, how do I fix that?00:35
sstchurEven in administrator mode on the hardware tab of Screen configuration, all of the "Configure" buttons are disabled00:37
Fr0d0hello00:37
chipy\join00:38
ubuntuHey guys00:42
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SlimeyPe1ehi.00:43
DistanceIs this channel for support?00:43
DistanceI'm a linux noob!00:43
SlimeyPe1eyes, it is00:44
DistanceI downloaded kubuntu, shoved it on a cd, booted from it and installde it00:44
SlimeyPe1eis it working OK?00:44
DistanceI then loaded up linux from bios, it didn't load up what I expected, just a command list00:44
jfbanyone know if there's an andLinux channel?00:44
SlimeyPe1eDistance: a "command list"? What sorts of things were in the list?00:45
Alethesprobably the grub menu00:45
DistanceWould the grub menu load up by default?00:47
Alethescan't remember :)00:47
SlimeyPe1ethe grub menu is the thing that lets you choose (eg) Windows or Linux00:47
SlimeyPe1eif you have both on your PC00:47
DistanceAh no.. On the list it showed vista and linux, I selected linux00:48
Distancethen it loaded up cmd00:48
Distancewhere I was able to cd /boot00:48
Distanceetc00:48
AlethesX may not be configured correctly so it's possible that it's exiting and taking you to the prompt00:49
Alethestype startx00:49
SlimeyPe1eoh right. That means that Xorg (the bit of software which displays the graphical interface) has failed, most likely due to a driver or resolution problem00:49
DistanceAh I see00:49
DistanceShall I try startx ?00:50
SlimeyPe1eyeah, Alethes' advice is good :)00:50
SlimeyPe1etry it.00:50
Alethesif you do, it'll probably give you the error you need to see to fix the prob00:50
DistanceAwesome, see you in a few mins. :)00:50
firecrotchwow, I never knew that kiba-dock was so nice00:50
Distancepromt screen.. thats the one :p00:50
Richard_BallsI tried playing nexuiz but the default refresh rate or resolution is too large for my monitor, so I cannot see anything.  How can I kill the game? alt+ctrl+escape doesn't work00:51
basculectrl+alt+backspace00:51
SlimeyPe1eRichard_Balls: go to a terminal by hitting ctrl-alt-f1, log in, type "ps -ef" and look for nexuiz. The number on the left is the pid. Type kill -9 pid.00:52
SlimeyPe1eyeah or ctrl-alt-backspace may work but it'll restart X so you'll lose any other graphical apps which are running00:53
basculeforgot to  mention that00:53
Richard_Ballswell that worked but it logged me out :/00:53
Richard_Ballsoh well00:53
Richard_Ballsall I had running was xchat anyway00:53
basculesorry Richard_Balls00:53
basculei remeber a couple years back someone said 'how do I kill X' so I told them, he then shouted at mer for losing his essay ... :)00:54
val0firecrotch is it for gnome only?00:54
firecrotchval0:  It has some gtk dependencies, but I'm running it in KDE(4) just fine00:54
val0bascule did you post it up on bash.org? lol00:55
val0oh cool00:55
val0firecrotch i wanted to play around with it but didn't know if it will run on my kde00:55
firecrotchIt should. I followed the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55412700:56
val0firecrotch thanks00:57
firecrotchval0:  my pleasure00:57
basculeval0: no, but he probably deserved it, had another on with someone complaining that shutdown -h now was too long, suggested the command 'halt' in a busy chan, got about 20 <nick has quit> mesages in 5 seconds, they shouted at me too :)00:57
val0bascule that's priceless, i spent last night there just laughing my ass off at 2 am!00:58
basculeyeah it's good, some serious public humiliations for people :)00:59
val0bascule I still remember the Alt-F4 joke00:59
val0bascule when people wanted to flood someone or something along those line00:59
basculethe password one was priceless, it shows as *'s in a channel cause it's your password :))01:00
adydasok seriously, how do you get flashplugin to work with gutsy01:01
firecrotch!flash | adydas01:01
ubotuadydas: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash01:01
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.01:01
adydasah dang it..01:01
val0bascule oh yeh!!! I was laughing hard reading that one, and more than one person tried it too!!!01:02
DistanceHey01:02
firecrotchadydas:  You can get it to work with the instructions in that thread on the forums01:02
SlimeyPe1ehi Distance01:02
DistanceFailed. I took a pic on my phone of the error when I typed startx01:02
DistanceFatal server error: Requested Entity already in use!01:03
SlimeyPe1ehmm01:04
SlimeyPe1eDistance: do you have two monitors?01:04
DistanceX10 : fatal IO error 104 (connetion reset by peer) on X server ... etc01:04
DistanceYeah I do, I tried unplugging one though01:04
SlimeyPe1edo you have an nvidia card?01:04
DistanceYes01:05
SlimeyPe1eRight, it's a driver issue then I think. You need to install the official nvidia drivers. Hang on, I'll find a link to a tutorial which will tell you how to do this from the prompt.01:05
DistanceDIA GeForce 730001:06
DistanceShould it be loading up with the CD ok then?01:06
bascule!nvidia01:06
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:06
DistanceCan I do all this whilst its booted up using the cd?01:07
SlimeyPe1eDistance: no, you'll need to boot from hard disk01:07
SlimeyPe1ebascule: the tutorial there relies on already having X working01:08
DistanceI was about to say :P01:09
SlimeyPe1eDistance: see http://www.albertomilone.com/latest_nvidia_udsf_feisty.html#METHOD_101:09
SlimeyPe1ethat looks accurate to me. Method 1 is the one you want.01:09
basculeSlimeyPe1e: funnily enough i have never actually read it :))01:09
Distancesudo apt-get install linux-generic01:13
DistanceWhat would this be01:13
basculea kernel01:13
Distanceam I able to do this whilst running from the cd01:13
basculeno01:13
SlimeyPe1eDistance: no01:13
Distanceusing Konsole01:13
Distanceoh ok01:13
bascule!chroot01:13
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box01:13
SlimeyPe1eyou have to boot from hard disk, sorry01:13
basculehmm, not what I was lookin for :)01:14
SlimeyPe1ewell, there are ways to do such things from the CD but they're a bit complicated ;)01:14
basculeyeah01:14
Distanceok :)01:15
basculewell three commands actually, mount none -t proc /mnt/point/proc && mount --bind /dev /mnt/point/dev && chroot /mnt/point01:15
basculeDistance: /mount/point is the directory that the existing hd install is on01:16
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Distancemount: only root can do that01:17
basculeDistance: yeah sudo in front of them, sorry :)01:17
iboubonsoir01:18
jussi01!fr | ibou01:18
ubotuibou: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:18
ibouoops01:19
ibougood evening01:19
Dr_WillisHmm.. Plugged in a new HD and now getting grub error 15.. Hate when that happens01:19
Dr_Willis!fixgrub01:19
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:19
ibouhow to know all the !command to ask to ubotu ?01:20
bascule!bot01:20
Distancebascule: I think I will have to boot from HD01:20
ibou!bot01:20
bascule!ubotu01:20
bascule!hi01:20
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:20
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!01:21
bascule:)01:21
basculeDistance: the chroot will work, but it is a little daunting01:21
Distance?01:21
ibouthanks bascule01:22
basculeDistance: the commands I gave earlier will drop you into the existing install and it will run things from there direct to the hd01:22
basculebut booting to the hdd is OK if it suits you01:23
DistanceWell I would prefer to do it from here incase I run into issues01:23
DistanceWhich commands do I need to type in to not get a root error?01:23
basculeshall I /msg you ?01:24
DistanceSure01:24
ibou!ubotu01:24
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:24
ibou:D01:24
ibou!hi01:24
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!01:24
ibou:D :D01:24
Distancebascule, I'm not registered01:25
DistanceI can't msg01:25
basculeI just noticed01:25
bascule:)01:25
bascule!paste01:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:25
basculecat /proc/partitions01:26
DistanceOne sec I'll register under a different name, this ones taken01:26
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ibou!hi01:27
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!01:27
Distance66:)01:27
alex_mayorgaHow can I isolate kubunut packages from ubuntu ones if I've installed both ubuntu and kubuntu desktops?01:42
mosnoalex_mayorga: do you mean in your menus?01:42
alex_mayorgaand is there a way to "clean" the icons that "spilled" when I installed kubuntu-desktop from my GNOME session??01:42
alex_mayorgamosno, exactly01:43
mosnoalex_mayorga: wow, what a guess01:43
alex_mayorgamosno, you're good buddy :)01:43
mosnoalex_mayorga: i think because they use the same menu specification you can't, unless you remove the icon(s) from the menu completely01:43
mosnoalex_mayorga: i'm not sure if there's a "masking" tool01:43
mosnoalex_mayorga: maybe the KDE Menu Editor...01:44
alex_mayorgaso there's no way to have totally independent GNOME and KDE sessions?01:44
mosnoalex_mayorga: not really01:44
mosnoi just checked-- menu editor doesn't seem to do it01:44
august_if anyone is avaliable i have a really quick question01:45
mosnoi came across this exact thing a couple of years ago and it made me reinstall -- but really you dont have to, just tweak your menus or uninstall the apps in question01:45
august_My fn button is busted.  I need to push fn f5 to get my monitor on my tv.  I dont know how to do it through the computer.  Does anyone have a idea?01:46
alex_mayorgamosno, is that a bug to fill or just dummy user error?01:46
august_i use kubuntu01:46
ibou_when i come back from hibernation i have my session directly without entering my login/pass. And Knetworkmanager show me that i'm connected to wifi although im not...01:46
ibou_i'd like to enter my login/pass01:46
Distance66!paste01:46
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august_if anyone has an idea that would be great help.  I have my date over and my fn button is broken hehehe...would like to watch this film but i got time01:47
august_anoyone availible to help a poor man with a little problem?01:48
august_or is everyone out for the night?01:48
mosnoalex_mayorga: Gnome and KDE standardised on the same menu system a while back i think01:49
mosnoalex_mayorga: so you would have been happy in the pre-standardisation days :)01:49
august_ok maybe i am in the wrong place...my friend told me to ask in here...but i see nuthin...01:49
august_is this like a help desk?01:49
august_or?01:49
mosnoaugust_: you're just supposed to ASK the question01:50
_BS_How can I sort, or keep automatically sorted, the kde menu items?01:50
august_i did01:51
august_my fn button is busted.  I try to push fn f5 to get my computer on my tv01:51
august_how do i get it up there a different way?01:51
mosnoaugust_: well then, if anyone knows they will answer ;)01:51
august_oh ok sorry then..01:51
august_i am new to linux01:51
august_so i know nothing01:51
mosnoaugust_: i think you're in trouble with the Fn thing... i'm pretty sure it's part of the laptop, not part of Linux01:52
SlimeyPe1eit's usually done in software01:52
august_oh ok i understand...must buy new laptop then...  but there is no way to get up a differnt way like on windows...left click and choose where you want the output?01:52
mosnoaugust_: but maybe if you're lucky there's software controls... depending on your laptop model01:52
mosno*shrug*01:52
august_ibm thinkpad01:53
august_ok...i dont know... i guess i shouldnt have dropped my laptop..that is the only key that not work01:53
_BS_august_ - Hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 / get to a terminal screen. If you hit F5, do you get funny characters on the screen? ^[ something or other?01:54
ibou_when i come back from hibernation i have my session directly without logon. And Knetworkmanager show me that i'm connected to wifi although im not...01:54
ibou_help01:54
_BS_august_ - Blue Fn F5 on a thinkpad is a function of the thinkpad, not the operating system (i.e. kubuntu). If you go into setup when you boot, turn on display to both S-Video and screen at same time. When you boot again, do you see something on your TV? If not, check your TV connections, e.g. make sure TV is set to your S-Video input.01:56
mosnoaugust_: check thinkwiki01:56
_BS_august_ - i.e. You should see memory count on both TV and laptop.01:56
august_i back01:56
august_it kick me out01:56
august_sorry i pushed wrong button01:56
august_dont know what you said01:56
august_when i clicled control alt f1 i went to a wierd page01:57
august_and i couldnt get back here01:57
august_it worked before but my fn button is busted01:57
_BS_august_ - Hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 / get to a terminal screen. If you hit F5, do you get funny characters on the screen? ^[ something or other?01:57
_BS_Blue Fn F5 on a thinkpad is a function of the thinkpad, not the operating system (i.e. kubuntu). If you go into setup when you boot, turn on display to both S-Video and screen at same time. When you boot again, do you see something on your TV? If not, check your TV connections, e.g. make sure TV is set to your S-Video input.01:57
_BS_i.e. You should see memory count on both TV and laptop.01:57
Distance66Thanks SlimeyPe1e btw :)01:57
Bauldrickis compiz-fusion worth having01:57
Distance66and bascule01:57
_BS_How can I sort, or keep automatically sorted, the kde menu items?01:58
august_where is the setup?01:58
august_when i boot?  how do i get to my setup?01:58
_BS_august_ - when you first turn on the thinkpad, it will say press F1 for setup.01:58
august_ok01:58
august_and then i should click on?01:58
alex_mayorgamosno, how hard would it be to have a menu-separation package or something like that :)01:59
_BS_august_ - give us a break. It's not like we've memorized all the laptop bios settings in the world. Find where it talks about your video, and what is enabled at bootup. You'll have laptop (screen?), TV (S-video?), or both. Choose both. Find it. Figure it out.02:00
_BS_First - go to Ctrl-Alt-F1, press F5, only. Do you get funny characters? i.e. Is the F5 key itself broken.02:00
mosnoalex_mayorga: no idea, i haven't looked too closely at the 'problem'02:00
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Distance66woot!02:13
alex_mayorgaany other dual session (GNOME&KDE) users that feel the same?02:13
basculeDistance66: excellent :)02:14
Distance66yup02:14
SlimeyPe1eDistance66: :D02:15
jabapythi just upgraded to Gutsy, and now I cant connect to the internet. Any ideas?02:15
Distance66Thanks guys ;)02:15
SlimeyPe1ehappy to help.02:15
|Quest|how to run mac osx on linux?  i dont have mac. i have a pc02:16
_BS_-NOTalex_mayorga - NOT. Think why freedesktop.org even exists. K.I.S.S. - don't make me think about what system I'm on, just let me get on with my day with everything where it's supposed to be. It's not like individual users can't make their own changes anyways. Probably even scriptable.02:16
yoda_da_codadoes anyone know how i would go about getting kubuntu to recognise some kind of mouse input in MS Virtual PC 2007? Basically, i need some way of using a keyboard-to-mouse scenario like the ubuntu accessibility features allow, but for KDE. Perhaps there is a package i can download that will allow this?02:16
_BS_-NOT|Quest| - assuming you even have mac osx, or have purchased it ... vmware or xen.02:17
_BS_-NOTyoda - anything in kde accessibility useful?02:17
|Quest|_BS_-NOT u dont have a mac remeber. i have a pc. so can i use it?02:19
yoda_da_coda_BS_-NOT: from what i can gather on the internet, KDE only has accessibility that prevents accidental pressing of keys and such. Getting around KDE without a mouse is such a pain and im not very good with linux anymore so i dont know all the shortcut keys.02:19
yoda_da_coda_BS_-NOT: so there may be something in the accessibility that does it, but i cant get into it to see for myself.02:20
yoda_da_coda_BS_-NOT: any ideas?02:25
lee__erg I ama try to upgrade02:27
deoxynayoda_da_coda: try system settings -> keyboard and mouse02:28
yoda_da_codadeoxnya: got any suggestions on how to get into system settings? :S02:29
deoxynayoda_da_coda: it should in your menu02:29
yoda_da_codadeoxyna: If this helps:, i am using KDE4 on kubuntu 7.04. I have pretty much no idea how to get into the menu. The normal shortcut keys have either changed, or it's not recognising them. And i'm running it in MS Virtual PC 2007, which is why i have the mouse problem in the first place.02:31
deoxynayoda_da_coda: i tried ms virtual pc before and i think it has a bug on capturing the mouse so i switched to virtualbox for virtualization02:33
ardchoilleyoda_da_coda: kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde402:34
yoda_da_codadeoxyna: it does have a problem with the mouse. there is a patch for it. the problem i have is just being able to click and point, which i can do with gnome.02:34
yoda_da_codaardchoille: maybe i should try there then. sorry if i've wasted your time.02:35
lee__eh where is the update thing so I can use the commnad line apt get update?02:35
lee__e the manager for KDE that is02:36
ardchoilleyoda_da_coda: No problem, just metioned it as you might get more help in that channel :)02:36
lee__ah heck I'll jsut load ubuntus update mannager02:36
yoda_da_codaardchoille: thanks. :)02:36
deoxynayoda_da_coda: what host OS are u running on?02:38
lee__eh sorry fer that...I jsut want to know what the comman line is fro running Kubuntus native update thing02:38
yoda_da_codaardchoille: host OS is windows xp pro sp202:38
lee__any one can I get the cmmand line for Ubuntus native updat mannagemt program02:40
lee__please02:40
ardchoillelee__: update or upgrade?02:41
deoxynayoda_da_coda: suggest u try virtualbox @ http://www.virtualbox.org/02:41
ardchoillelee__: sudo apt-get update  <-- updates your sources02:41
lee__eh the thing taht kicks in both02:41
ardchoillelee__: sudo apt-get upgrade  <-- upgrades your apps to the latest versions02:41
lee__ok02:42
ardchoillelee__: If you are talking about going from Feisty to Gutsy, then command line isn't the best because you will not get apps that are new in Gutsy but weren't in Feisty, thus you will miss out on some things02:42
se7en_!apt | lee__02:42
ubotulee__: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)02:42
yoda_da_codaardchoille: thanks. :) i'll check that out.02:43
ardchoilleyoda_da_coda: yw02:43
lee__never mind Iam in stalling the Update manager02:49
omgbbqwtfalo kubuntur's02:50
Szalnhi02:50
omgbbqwtfSo whos the resident guru to probe with questions?02:51
Dr_Willisdepends on the question omgbbqwtf02:51
ardchoilleomgbbqwtf: There are several here :)02:51
omgbbqwtfMy wifi card is showing up in kt -- but its not/wont detect any networks02:51
Szalncan anybody explain me what is really a dual boot? is it just USING GRUB for different partitions?02:51
omgbbqwtfDual boot --- is booting a different os02:52
omgbbqwtflike windows02:52
omgbbqwtfor mac02:52
Dr_Willisusing grub (or lilo) to boot one of seeveral different OS's02:52
ardchoilleSzaln: diff partitions/drives which hold diff OS's02:52
Dr_Willisboot to one os... reboot pick anohter os... dual booting. :)02:52
omgbbqwtfI have a wpn311 --- the driver installs fine (from what I can tell) but it doesnt find any local networks, when I know theres at least 12 since I live in an apartment complex02:53
omgbbqwtfThat and my mouse lags terribly slow02:53
Szalnahmm ok, i've been reading about it as a NEW feature!! kinda stupid XD... those boys didn't knew LILO.......02:54
Dr_WillisSzaln:  Huh? what boyd?02:54
Dr_WillisLinux has been allowing Dual booting of os's for ages. LILO used to be the standard. but grub has finally taken over in the last 3 years or so,02:55
Szalnyoutube's messiahs02:55
Dr_WillisI think Grub2 is in the works also.02:55
omgbbqwtfI can handle the laggy mouse --- its --ya know .... bearable --- but no interweb is killing me02:55
Dr_WillisTalk is cheap. :) it pays to read about linux.. not watch videos.02:55
Szalngrub2? on the way?02:56
Dr_Willisomgbbqwtf:  if its not finding any networks at all . i wonder if the cards drivers are even installed properly.02:56
Dr_WillisI dont do  wireless.. :) so cant help ya more.02:56
omgbbqwtfNone at all -- shows up as ath002:56
omgbbqwtfWhich is correct02:56
Dr_Willis!wireless02:57
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:57
omgbbqwtfIm already there02:57
omgbbqwtfnothing really exact to my problem02:57
Dr_Willisthers so many types of wireless cards. and ways to get them going.. some times the docs/pages are out of date - due to kernel changes and so forth.02:57
Dr_WillisCheck the forums for your exact card perhaps02:57
nosrednaekimomgbbqwtf: pastebin the results of "iwconfig"02:57
omgbbqwtfok no red --- ill have to reboot into Kb02:57
omgbbqwtfso itll be a bit02:57
omgbbqwtfbut i shall return!02:58
nosrednaekimomgbbqwtf: wait then02:58
omgbbqwtfk02:58
omgbbqwtfi believe last time i did it it showed my 2 cards02:58
omgbbqwtfthe atho and my intel 10/10002:59
nosrednaekimomgbbqwtf: ok... run "iwlist <interface name, something like eth1 or wlan0> scan"02:59
omgbbqwtfiwlist ath0?02:59
omgbbqwtfmost likely02:59
nosrednaekimfor example "iwlist ath0 scan"02:59
omgbbqwtfkk --- ill do it03:00
Dr_Willisi never have figured out why some wireless cards show up as eth# others as ath#< and others as other things. :)03:00
knologyhello03:00
omgbbqwtfThe chipset willis03:00
nosrednaekimDr_Willis: dependson the driver/manufacturer03:00
knologyi need to install firefox and I am not been able to :S03:01
asdfasdfasdfasdfhello i have some weird problems with my kubuntu. its in spanish and as example in the k menu instead of "lector de orígenes" (an "i" with a "'") appears an A followed by an ¬ like this : "lector de orA¬genes" any help plz? :)03:01
Dr_Willisknology:  and 'sudo apt-get install firefox' dosent work?03:01
knologycan i get some help?03:01
nosrednaekim!es | asdfasdfasdfasdf03:01
ubotuasdfasdfasdfasdf: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.03:01
knologyit apears but is not clikable03:01
NickPrestaknology, you have to explain your problem in greater detail03:02
asdfasdfasdfasdfyeah nice noone is there and im speaking english  :)03:02
rawhi, where's the custom session in the KDM session dialog gone?03:02
lee__actually waht i was trying to ask for is waht was Kubuntu's update manager thingy03:02
lee__the program its self tht controls the update03:02
Dragnslcrlee__- you mean Adept?03:02
lee__yeah03:02
asdfasdfasdfasdfmaybe the correct question is where to change codification of kubuntu?03:02
nosrednaekimasdfasdfasdfasdf: systemsettings03:02
lee__eh I sjust loaded the update mannager03:03
knologyi go to Adept and search for firefox. it apear but is not clicable to install03:03
lee__lol03:03
nosrednaekimraw: custom session?03:03
rawright now I can't convince KDM to source my ~/.xsession because there's no "Custom" Session03:03
asdfasdfasdfasdfim afraid not nosrednaekim :) using gutsy :)03:03
rawnosrednaekim: yeah the "Custom" session wich is sourcing user's ~/.xsession03:03
lee__eh I have gutsy, but, when I loaded it thatis when I got all theupdate errors03:03
lee__when i went to update03:04
lee__so Iam trying it this way03:04
knologyi have dowloaded firefox but i cant install it :S03:04
lee__to see if that will work03:04
nosrednaekimraw: ah, well, go to some distro's channel that has one, and copy theier /etc/Xsessions/session.desktop"03:04
lee__also iam running a 64 bit system03:04
lee__seeing if the same errors pop up03:04
lee__erg 86103:05
rawnosrednaekim: KDM on Kubuntu cannot source in ~/.xsession?03:05
lee__files03:05
nosrednaekimraw: it can if you give it the right session script03:06
rawnosrednaekim: why is Kubuntu missing this vital session script?03:07
nosrednaekimraw: ask the devs03:07
rawnosrednaekim: actually default/custom/failsafe are *builtin* session, meaning if custom is missing someone fucked up the configuration files pretty bad03:09
nosrednaekimor deliberately took it out... in any case, ask in #kubuntu-devel03:09
stdin!language | raw03:09
uboturaw: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.03:09
omgbbqwtfBack03:13
omgbbqwtfNorednaekim still here?03:13
knologyfirefox installed03:13
knologythanks03:13
nosrednaekimomgbbqwtf: yeah03:14
omgbbqwtf--No Scan Results03:14
omgbbqwtfiwconfig showed my card as Ath0 -- no Essid -- etc etc03:14
nosrednaekimomgbbqwtf: and the intel one?03:14
omgbbqwtfDidnt scan it -- its wired03:14
nosrednaekimomgbbqwtf: oh.. ok03:16
nosrednaekimso you have an atheros which isn't deecting anything? is it a 5005G?03:16
omgbbqwtfno03:17
omgbbqwtfNetgear WPN31103:17
lee__well I found my ubuntu 7.10 cd, you want to know the irony of it?03:17
nosrednaekimomgbbqwtf: ok... are youusing ndiswrapper?03:17
lee__its sme wierd thing called an alternate cd thing03:17
lee__any ideas on how that works?03:18
omgbbqwtfWell nosrednaekim .... I do not know03:18
lee__I must have hit the worn link03:18
nosrednaekimlee__: you can install, but its not a liveCD03:18
omgbbqwtfIve been booting from the live CD03:18
lee__ah ok03:18
lee__is taht just as good or better?03:18
omgbbqwtfI really dont want to format my whole C:/ to install Kubuntu --- which is what the installer wants to do03:18
nosrednaekimjust as good, a bit harder, but it works fine03:18
lee__oh and it has soem wierd keyboard configuring thingy03:18
nosrednaekimomgbbqwtf: se;ect manual partitioning03:19
lee__well if this rout fails Il use that disk then to make sure Iam 7.1003:19
omgbbqwtfYah -- I get this strange map thing ... that I cant really figure out to be honest -- Im very new to the whole Distro thing03:19
lee__eh me 203:19
lee__eh permision to speak freely lol03:20
nosrednaekimomgbbqwtf: does automatic partitioning offer to resize your windows partition?03:20
lee__the one other distro I used was PCLOS....03:20
omgbbqwtfI have 2 drives --- a 250 C:/ and a 80g D:/ that windows is on --- the C:/ has retarded amounts of work data on it that formatting it just wont do03:20
lee__eh ib KDE03:21
lee__retarded mounts eh...03:21
omgbbqwtfShh --- my vista key got banned03:21
omgbbqwtfso I had to XP onto my other drive03:22
lee__hu?03:22
nosrednaekimuhh oh.... I have to go.. sorry buys03:22
nosrednaekim*guys03:22
omgbbqwtfPeace nosrednaekim03:22
lee__why did your vista key get banned?03:22
ardchoille!ot03:22
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:22
lee__ouch03:22
omgbbqwtfThat sucks ... he was theonly one of any help ---- OEM key --- but anyways --- any other suggestions on my wireles debocle?03:22
lee__eh don't know enough to help03:23
lee__its installing 7.10 now03:24
lee__eh Ill brb when its finished03:25
lee__waht the  heck jawee, hes a PCLOS person03:26
lee__waht was he soig here in the support channel?03:27
jorge_hola03:28
jorge_una pregunta...03:29
jorge_¿cuál es el canal de ayuda para kubuntu en español?03:29
lee__hello03:30
StrangeletSKIM is incredibly troublesome to me, it sometimes stops me from typing anything in certain boxes at certain times. Is there a fix for this? Or a healthy alternative? (I am trying to type in Chinese)03:30
lee__anyone hre have issues with updating to KDE , I ask htis in a general ?03:30
jorge_hey03:32
jorge_please I need help03:32
jorge_hilf mir bitte!03:32
niallyo03:33
StrangeletSKIM is incredibly troublesome to me, it sometimes stops me from typing anything in certain boxes at certain times. Is there a fix for this? Or a healthy alternative? (I am trying to type in Chinese)03:33
niallfor some reason my display pic on Kopete isn't being sent to my contacts, so they can't see it. Any idea why that would be? :<03:34
rigneshello there.  What command do I run to re-generate my xorg config file?  Google is usually my firend but I guess I'm not searching on the right terms.03:35
jorge_necesito ayuda por favor03:35
jorge_dónde está el canal de ayuda en español?03:35
Pupeno-!es03:37
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.03:37
adydassuggestions on kubuntu gui based video encoders?03:37
Pupeno-Is there an official or semi-official Linux channel?03:37
jorge_gracias03:37
jorge_hola03:38
Pupeno-jorge_: de nada.03:38
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jorge_acabo de instalar mi kubuntu03:38
jorge_no puedo escuchar música ni ver videos03:38
jorge_¿qué hago?03:38
StrangeletSKIM is incredibly troublesome to me, it sometimes stops me from typing anything in certain boxes at certain times. Is there a fix for this? Or a healthy alternative? (I am trying to type in Chinese)03:39
Zombocomare there any good graphing programs out there?03:50
lee__No but I have a really funny fdog that took a flat basket ball and made it round lol03:51
ardchoilleZombocom: dia, graphviz ?03:52
Szalnone question mates. do not throw me to the bin, please, is a little bit related to XP.03:53
Zombocomgraphviz?03:53
ardchoille!info graphviz03:53
ubotugraphviz (source: graphviz): rich set of graph drawing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 2.12-4ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 328 kB, installed size 924 kB03:53
Zombocom!spanish03:53
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.03:53
Zombocom!xaos03:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xaos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:54
Szalni have a xp partition, and want to resize it to install another linux flavor, but the defrag util shows me that there are some bits in the middle of the partition. can i resize it with qtparted without any data lost? is there any way to place those annoying bits in the start of the partition?03:55
TheAlienscrew windows03:56
ardchoilleSzaln: I have heard this can be done, but you probably are best served going to a Windows channel for help with defragging Windows03:56
StrangeletSKIM is incredibly troublesome to me, it sometimes stops me from typing anything in certain boxes at certain times. Is there a fix for this? Or a healthy alternative? (I am trying to type in Chinese)03:56
TheAlienjust erase it all do yourself a favor03:56
Szalnhaha, yes maybe it is the best option, screw it, but in the faculty still own those privative office suits, and i need to format my doc as they like03:57
Szalnopenofffice is good, but i need the post-format03:58
StrangeletSzaln: OpenOffice can export .docs very well03:58
StrangeletSzaln: Not sure about stuff such as .ppts, but I am sure it should work03:59
Szalnyes, very well, but i think not perfect at all03:59
Szalnunfortunately04:00
Szalnin the other hand, i did not tested any cad software in linux04:00
StrangeletSzaln: cad software?04:01
Szalnso, still xp-dependant for some things04:01
Szalnyes04:01
SzalnI use Autodesk's04:02
hydrogenCAD on linux is pretty not that happening04:02
StrangeletSzaln: Ehh, donno waht cad software is :P04:02
ardchoilleapt-cache search --names-only cad04:03
ardchoille;)04:03
niallfor some reason my display pic on Kopete isn't being sent to my contacts, so they can't see it. Any idea why that would be? :<04:03
Szalnthanks ardchoille, do you experienced any of those? any opinion?04:05
nicholaihi...after updating to 7.10, all shaded menus are so faint that they are impossible to read04:05
nicholaiany idea why that is?04:05
ardchoilleSzaln: Never used an cad software, but installing is a simple "sudo apt-get install package_name" away :)04:05
Szalnof course.... the lab is always open, despite it is 5 AM in spain........ :-D04:07
niallnicholai: have you tried just changed the colour scheme?04:07
girishkhi , am i on #kubuntu on freenode ?04:07
girishkcan anyone help04:09
nicholainiall: well, some color schemes do work better but shouldn't the standard one be ok already? it looked fine before the update04:09
girishkcan anyone help pls04:11
ardchoillegirishk: What do you need help with?04:11
colorlessblueideI have a (I hope quick) Flash 9 question.  Anyone who might be able to help?04:12
girishkardchoille: i just installed kubuntu dapper04:13
girishki am a newbie, and need to know more for my projects04:13
niallI just want to know why no one can see my display pic or emoticons on Kopete :(04:13
girishki installed it but my screen res is big04:13
girishkmeaning i dont think it has installed the graphics card properly, or whatever you call it. hence my presence here.04:13
AulusI'm having trouble starting KDE 4 in xephyr; when I type "Xephyr :1" into the konsole, I get a black fuzzy screen. How do I tell it to run the startkde script?04:14
colorlessblueide!flash04:15
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash04:15
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.04:15
ardchoille!kde4 | Aulus04:16
ubotuAulus: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde404:16
Aulusardchoille: those are the instructions I followed...04:16
ardchoilleAulus: Any hint from the last bit?04:17
bazhanghaha04:17
girishkis 7.10 better than the 6.06 ?04:19
ardchoillegirishk: 7.10 ir more recent04:19
ardchoille*is04:19
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girishkam on 6.06 how to upgrade to 7.1004:20
girishkam running kubuntu 6.06 dapper04:20
ardchoille!upgrade | girishk04:20
ubotugirishk: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes04:20
girishkdoes the 7.10 support kde ?04:21
bazhangyes04:21
girishkwill it fix my screen resolution problem ?04:22
ardchoille!fixres | girishk04:22
ubotugirishk: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:22
girishkhow do i get the terminal up ?04:23
ardchoillegirishk: press alt+f2, type in "konsole" (without quotes), click Run04:24
lee_ok guys, iam going to attempt an upgrade wish me luck04:25
lee_eh hahts the name of adpt manger ?04:26
bazhanggood luck lee_04:26
ardchoillelee_: adept_manager04:26
lee_ty04:27
colorlessblueideI have a question about installing a .deb file04:30
colorlessblueideAnyone able to help me with this?04:30
se7en_!ask | colorlessblueide04:31
ubotucolorlessblueide: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)04:31
ardchoillecolorlessblueide: Before attempting to install a .deb package, check the repos to see if the app is there.04:31
ardchoillecolorlessblueide: a good way to search the repos is to open a terminal and type: apt-cache search <app name>04:32
colorlessblueidese7en_:   Thanks for the note.  I've been told to ask before asking by some --- my apologies for getting it wrong here.04:32
se7en_np colorlessblueide what do you want to install04:33
colorlessblueidese7en_: The question stems from a bug-fix to flash 9; according to the wiki, the bugfix requires removing flashplugin-nonfree, and then installing http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10761023/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_i386.deb, which I've downloaded.04:33
TheAlienhey does anybody know how to solve adept telling me that another process is using the packaging system database?04:34
colorlessblueide(This is apparently an advance of the 8.04 Hardy release.)04:34
avvsany change someone could help a psuedonoob get MSN video chat working under gutsy?04:34
avvs*chance04:34
ardchoilleTheAlien: yes, close the other app. only one app can use the db at a time04:34
TheAlienit s closed04:34
avvs(for kopete)04:35
TheAlienI was updating and the computer froze and I had to turn it off04:35
stdin!aptfix | TheAlien04:35
ubotuTheAlien: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »04:35
TheAliennow its telling me that04:35
ardchoillestdin: Thanks04:35
TheAlien!aptfix is that a command?04:36
stdinTheAlien: no, read what ubotu said04:37
stdin!bot04:37
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots04:37
stdinTheAlien: ! is a trigger for the bot04:37
mot_when in the compiz settings can i change windows open/close maximize/minimize effects?04:37
avvshow do i open up a port (to use my webcame) on my router?04:38
ardchoille!compiz | mot_04:39
ubotumot_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion04:39
stdinavvs: that's specific to your router, see your manual04:39
avvsstdin: ok, thanks04:39
colorlessblueideardchoille: Sorry for the misdirected-answer. The package I wish to install is a replacement (early 8.04 Hardy) patch for the Flash9 bug in flashplugin-nonfree.04:39
ardchoillecolorlessblueide: Yeah, my bad, I didn't know you meant flash, but the advice serves for most app/packages04:40
colorlessblueideardchoille: Absolutely agree.  I spent about an hour searching and checking before heading to IRC, so as not to waste toooooo much bandwidth.04:41
colorlessblueide!deb | colorlessblueide04:42
* stdin smacks ubotu with the boot o' lag04:43
stdin!deb04:43
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.04:43
ardchoillestdin: ubotu doesn't respond when you pipe it back to your own nick?04:43
stdinahh, it msg's him04:43
ardchoilleah04:43
* stdin hugs ubotu and retracts the boot o' lag04:44
ardchoilleWhere does konqueror keep its cache?04:45
stdinardchoille: /var/tmp/kdecache-(your username)/http/04:47
ardchoillestdin: Ah, yeah, just noticed the symlink to that, thanks04:47
pf_I have recently updated to linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic from linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic. I tried to remove my older version with "apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic", but it wants to uninstall linux-generic, linux-image-generic, etc. along with it. Is this normal? Aren't these supposed to depend on the latest available version?04:48
pf_and is there a linux equivalent to Winsplit Revolution? I've been trying a few tiling window managers but I haven't found anything conclusive thus far.04:51
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colorlessblueideardchoille: Yeah, ubotu politely told me to use a private message.  (I'm still learning the ropes on IRC; sorry for the boorishness.)  Now I'm trying to follow its advice.04:55
ardchoillecolorlessblueide: no problem :)04:55
qwerqwerqwerqwercan you guyz tell me whats a nick collision? i got it everytime but only in this net O,o04:56
lee_eh what does Could not calulate upgrade mean?04:56
colorlessblueideardchoille: Do you mind if I still ask a few questions on the topic, as I'm not sure I've succeeded, and pretty sure I didn't.  :-)04:57
ardchoillecolorlessblueide: Which topic?04:58
lee_  eh I   tried to update but it said it could not calculate upgrade waht odes that mean?04:58
ardchoillecolorlessblueide: It doesn't hurt at all to ask stuff about kubuntu here04:58
ardchoillecolorlessblueide: It's just when you're searching fro things with the bot that it's best to do it in a PM04:58
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lee_eh I  tied to upgrade to kde 4 it said Ii culd not calculate upgrade, what does that error men?04:59
colorlessblueideardchoille:  Installing a .deb I've downloaded to fix a Flash problem.    Understand re the PM; of course, when ubotu responded to use a PM, I had to look up the \\query command.  Really, I've been using linux for years, but I'm not savvy on IRC.04:59
ardchoillecolorlessblueide: to install a .deb package: sudo dpkg -i file.deb05:00
ardchoillelee_: kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde405:01
colorlessblueideardchoille: Thanks.  The ubotu said to "click" on the package.  I almost always use the CLI, and never konqueror, so it took awhile.  Didn't appear to work in konqueror anyways.  Your dpkg command appears to have taken, in any event.05:02
ardchoillecolorlessblueide: double-click on a .deb package opens a gui for installing, but I don't use much in the way of gui's05:03
lee_ok wiping drive and installing something else05:03
lee_I get errors on both ubuntu and kubuntu, I guess it is broken05:04
se7en_does someone use scribus and can tell me why i can05:04
se7en_...export to  PDF/X-305:04
colorlessblueideardchoille: Yeah, me neither, although there are some times it works well.  But . . . the "click" in konqueror failed, while the dpkg command worked!!!  My wife will be very happy (she uses Flash much more than I do).05:05
ardchoillecolorlessblueide: Perhaps you need to tweak the file association for .deb files?05:05
ardchoillecolorlessblueide: kcmshell filetypes05:06
colorlessblueideardchoille: Well, the gui installer started, but seemed to crash.  The dpkg finished successfully, and now flash works in some cases where it didn't before.  It still isn't working on my wife's favorite local TV news station, however.05:06
ardchoillecolorlessblueide: Ah, ok05:07
colorlessblueideardchoille: Yeah, it's giving an "Express install is not supported by this version of the Flash Player . . . " message.05:09
mint2when i download linux, in my case, kubuntu05:09
mint2http://ubuntu-cdimage.datahop.it/kubuntu/releases/7.10/release/05:09
mint2do i get the amd64 or what ?05:09
ardchoillecolorlessblueide: Ah, so that's a limitation of that specific package, not the installer itself05:10
colorlessblueideardchoille: Yeah, but I'm surprised that a "well-developed" and "well-supported" app like flash is such a mess.05:12
colorlessblueideardchoille: And, yes, I agree that it's Flash's fault.05:12
yao_ziyuanjust tried fedora/kde05:17
yao_ziyuanit sucks more than kubuntu :)05:17
sigma_1234how do i create a new user account?05:17
yao_ziyuansigma_1234: Control Center...05:18
sigma_1234whats wrong with kubuntu?05:18
yao_ziyuanSystem Settings05:18
yao_ziyuankubuntu's east asian language display and input sucks05:18
sigma_1234how do i do it in konsole?05:18
se7en_or useradd05:19
se7en_or adduser05:19
mint2alt+tab05:19
colorlessblueideardchoille: Any idea why some of the apps will say "you have Flash 7" installed, when I *know* that Flash 9 is installed?05:19
mint2and konsole05:19
colorlessblueideardchoille: Could that be a Firefox problem?05:19
sigma_1234well it wasnt really designed for that05:19
sigma_1234perhaps the app was designed for flash7?05:21
ardchoillecolorlessblueide: No idea, I don't use flash05:21
colorlessblueideardchoille: Alas, the boss insists we do.  :-)   Thanks very much for your help, however.  I like the helpfulness on this channel.  I remember some of the USENET flamewars as well as some of the snarkiness in other help fora.05:22
ardchoillecolorlessblueide: np :) This channel rocks!05:23
colorlessblueideardchoille: Absotively, posilutely!!!  So, I'd best go with a general query again.  Have a great night!05:24
colorlessblueideNumerous sites tell me (Firefox) that I'm using Flash7; I have Flash9 installed, per the latest bugfix.  Anyone able to help?05:25
jalbert_hello anybody here?05:35
jalbert_ardchoille?05:35
vivekI have installed comfiz fusion in my Kubuntu 7.10 but am unable to run it...please help05:35
jalbert_Doctor_Nick?05:36
ardchoillejalbert_: Please don't hilight people unnecessarily05:36
jalbert_I was just checking to see if anybody was here05:36
vivekI have installed comfiz fusion in my Kubuntu 7.10 but am unable to run it...please help05:37
ardchoillejalbert_: Might be a good idea to refrain from doing that :)05:37
jalbert_I'm attempting an upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy05:37
jalbert_OK05:37
jalbert_vivek: try #compiz-fusion05:38
jalbert_they're real helpful where c-f is concerned05:38
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jalbert_ardchoille, every time I've tried this upgrade in the past, it has crapped  out at some point or another05:39
jalbert_right now the Distro Upgrade dialog is telling me it's "Fetching file 50 of 55"05:40
jalbert_but it's been doing that for like half an hour05:41
makers_marki want to tri-boot ubuntu in osx (not through bootcamp) any help/advice?05:41
jalbert_it's stuck on 99%05:41
StrangeletI was recently attempting to remove some stuff in my trash, one of the things couldn't be deleted, so I opened up dolphin in root and deleted it then, now a message pops up everytime I want to get out of dolphin, it says "Unable to save booksmarks in /home/nicholas/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied."05:41
Strangelethm, wait, I think I may be able to solve it, how do I change the permissions of a file?05:42
aroochmod05:43
jalbert_it appears that adept is stuck trying to download a particular file05:43
makers_markanyone?05:44
jalbert_it keeps getting to "58 of 60" then it hangs for a bit then starts over05:44
arooStrangelet, http://www.ss64.com/bash/chmod.html for reference, about halfway down the page is a white box that allows you to generate the 3 numbers you need to change the permissions to what you need05:44
Strangeletaroo: oh! thank you! Saved me a lot of time on this. :)05:45
ardchoillejalbert_: I aksed you to not hilight people unnecessarily. I don't do upgrades, so I know nothing about them.05:46
jalbert_who did I highlight unnecessarily?05:46
ardchoilleme05:47
arooUpgrades are hit or miss.05:47
jalbert_I was just directing a question to you05:47
jalbert_I did not know that was considered impolite05:47
ardchoillejalbert_: Direct your new questions to the channel and folks will reply if they can help05:47
jalbert_is there a better way to do this perhaps?05:47
arooTwo partitions, / and /home. Format / and put Gutsy on it. Keep anything you don't want to lose in /home.05:48
arooNever have to worry about upgrades again.05:48
jalbert_it's been "Preparing the upgrade" for like an hour now05:48
jalbert_Ialready have a seperate /home partition05:49
Strangeletaroo: It worked! :D happiness is restored. and such.05:49
arooStrangelet, :)05:49
jalbert_so just install Gutsy into the root partition?05:50
aroojalbert_, just move anything you don't want to lose into /home. Boot from Gutsy Live CD, and put it on /.05:50
jalbert_cool thanks05:50
aroojalbert_, just make sure you don't tell it to format /home obviously.05:50
jalbert_yeah of course05:50
jalbert_thanks05:50
arooNo problem. I've never had luck with upgrades so that's how I've done it in the past.05:50
jalbert_if this upgrade fails, that's what I'll do05:50
jalbert_ok05:51
jalbert_but then I'll have to reinstall all my applications all over again, right?05:52
arooIf they're located on /, yes.05:52
jalbert_awwww05:52
jalbert_"05:52
jalbert_Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 302 Found05:52
jalbert_Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 302 Found05:52
jalbert_Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/source/Sources.gz 302 Found05:52
jalbert_Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/source/Sources.gz 302 Found05:52
jalbert_ooops05:52
jalbert_didnt thing that would be so big05:52
jalbert_maybe I need to update my repositories list?05:53
jalbert_aww screw it05:53
jalbert_I'll just reformat and reinstall05:54
arooYea!05:54
jalbert_see you all later05:54
jalbert_gnite05:54
arooGood luck05:54
se7en_jalbert_: you could cp /var/cache/apt/archives/  that would save some download time on installing05:54
Kamilovhi05:57
mint2r u using ubuntu Kamilov ?05:59
KamilovKubuntu05:59
KamilovI've got a problem in changing my screen resolution06:00
mint2gutsy ?06:00
Kamilovyes06:00
KamilovWhen I click the Desktop icon in kde4-systemsettings my screen goes blank06:00
mint2does gutsy run kde4 ?06:00
mint2i mean does it include it06:01
Kamilovnope06:01
Kamilovbut it's got its repository06:01
flamesageHello?06:27
flamesageAnyone alive? :/06:27
flamesageGuess not :(06:27
devilsadvocateyep06:27
flamesagehey06:28
Cavallomaybe :)06:28
flamesageOk I have a question!06:28
flamesageIs there a way to keep KDE 3.x and KDE 4.x Menus seperate?06:28
flamesage(I havn't installed KDE 4 yet)06:28
flamesageBut I don't want mixed menus, and KDE 4.x items in KDE 3.x menu.06:28
Cavallowhy my fonts are so unreadable: http://shrani.si/f/2c/fc/4e7wF2Ak/snapshot1.png ? It's very har to read something like that :/ Any suggestions ?06:28
devilsadvocateas far i know, that isnt possible06:29
devilsadvocatebut i may be wrong :P06:29
flamesageargh06:29
flamesageIs there a way to backup the menu before installing KDE 4?06:29
kyewhats the issue behind doing that? could you still run the same app anyway?06:30
flamesagehuh?06:30
flamesageYeah but I don't want a bunch of random KDE 4 apps in my KDE 3 menu.06:30
Cavalloflamesage: dont worry. There not very much apps in menu for kde4....06:30
Cavallofor now ...06:30
flamesageHmm06:31
flamesageOk.06:31
KamilovHow can I get into restricted drivers menu in KDE4?06:31
flamesageIs there a way once I install KDE 4 to remove it and all of the apps it installed?06:31
devilsadvocateKamilov: restricted-manager-kde ?06:32
devilsadvocateflamesage: I suppose there should be, but it probably wont be easy.06:32
flamesageargh06:32
Kamilovnothing like this06:32
flamesagePerhaps I should dualboot?06:32
flamesageeh..06:32
flamesageoh well06:32
devilsadvocateKamilov: you installed kde4 over your normal kubuntu 7.10 install?06:32
flamesageI'll just install KDE 4 :)06:32
Kamilovyes06:33
Kamilovthen I removed kde3 packages06:33
devilsadvocateflamesage: its not worth it - dual boot. You'll rarely go back to ke 3 :P06:33
Kamilovand reinstalled kde4 again06:33
flamesageWhen did they say there releasing 4.1?06:33
Cavallojuly or august I think06:34
Cavallonot sure06:34
KamilovI remember I could do it 2-3 days ago when they released new xorg-core06:34
Kamilov...,06:34
KamilovI coud access Desktop06:34
devilsadvocateKamilov: removed _all_ the kde4 packages?06:34
devilsadvocateKamilov: ah, restricted drivers06:35
flamesageAre they saying KDE 4.1 will be the "real" KDE4 (meaning, all of the functionaility of 3.x?)06:35
devilsadvocateKamilov: try to install restricted-manager-kde06:35
Kamilovok06:35
devilsadvocateflamesage: thats what im hearing just now. Kde4 seems to be pretty decent for the average user though. I'm just having some proxy relatd issues06:36
KamilovI just don't have a frontend :)) thanks06:36
Kamilov2nd think06:37
Kamilovhow to enable console like tty1-tty6 ?06:37
Kamilovctrl-F1-F6 doesn't work06:38
Cavallowhy my fonts are so unreadable: http://shrani.si/f/2c/fc/4e7wF2Ak/snapshot1.png ? It's very har to read something like that :/ Any suggestions ?06:38
devilsadvocateKamilov: ctrl+alt+f106:39
devilsadvocateCavallo: no clue. sorry. you can google around for anti-aliasing (which i see you are already doing) and maybe subpixex font rendering06:39
Kamilovbut I cna't type anything06:40
Kamilovthere is only a "_" lashing06:40
Kamilovflashing06:40
devilsadvocateKamilov: give it a few seconds06:41
devilsadvocateif not, try f2. f1 might be locked up by som e process06:41
devilsadvocatei've noticed that ssometimes, not sure what happens06:41
Cavallodevilsadvocate: thanks06:42
Cavallobrb06:42
Kamilovthe same flashing "_" but now I have to repaint my desktop06:44
devilsadvocateKamilov: then i guess i dont know what the problem is. try all of them, from 1 to 6. if nothing happens after a short while try typing in your login id and hitting enter (although i doubt that'l work)06:46
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flameasgeOk I'm in KDE 4 now06:48
flameasgeIt's not.. bad06:48
flameasgeThough it's missing a few things :(06:49
flameasgeIsn't there a way to get more widgets in KDE4?06:49
mot_ich will06:49
flameasgeIsn't there some kind of extra package I can install?06:49
yao_ziyuanKubuntu 7.10 KDE 4.0 Remaster06:51
yao_ziyuani wonder if this iso can install to hard disk?06:51
flameasgehuh06:51
flameasgewhats it mean by "Remaster06:51
yao_ziyuanhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/kde4/06:51
flameasgeoh06:51
flameasgeIt's simply the KDE 4 release?06:51
yao_ziyuandunno06:51
yao_ziyuanthe filename is kubuntu-kde4.0-i386.iso06:52
yao_ziyuanwhich suggests kubuntu+kde406:52
yao_ziyuanbut can it install to hard disk?06:52
flameasgeyeah06:52
flameasgeI tried that one06:52
flameasgeyou can BUT..06:52
yao_ziyuanbut what?06:52
flameasgeI think it's better to go from KDE 3.x to 4.x06:52
flameasgebecause theres no network manager for KDe 4 yet.06:52
flameasgeand theres quite a few things missing from a pure KDE 4 environment06:53
yao_ziyuanwhat can that cost?06:53
flameasgeno wireless.06:53
yao_ziyuani'm using an Ethernet thing06:53
jamman105hey, anyone git the now playing plugin to work in kopete? kde4, of course...06:54
ardchoillejamman105: kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde406:55
flameasgelets move over there :P06:55
yao_ziyuandoes Hardy Alpha 3 comes with KDE 4?06:59
flameasgeUhh07:01
flameasgeI believe so.07:01
flameasgeDon't quote me07:01
flameasgeBut I think it's the second option on the window manager selection.07:01
yao_ziyuani think kde4 can't solve the skim+scim problem07:04
yao_ziyuanenglish myth:07:07
yao_ziyuandoes today's english still not support the sentence pattern "i think something does not somewhat"?07:08
mark__hey can anyone help me with compiz?07:10
mark__lol theres 315 people here any no ones responding?07:11
yao_ziyuan315...07:11
mark__316 now..07:12
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asdasdsahello my please lcd is giving me dark picture when video plays. it was good on etime that's how i knew i couldn't see anything before. how can i get it work bright? thank you :f07:14
bahmanHow could I add Konqueror browser in Ubuntu?!07:14
mark__well regardless whenever i start compiz it shows 4 desktops in the bottom right of the screen, but through the system settings it shows only 2 is enabeled. when i try and use the 3d cube feature of compiz it just shows the desktops as a double sided piece of paper with only 2 desktops. if i try and enable more desktops through the system settings its the same thing but the number of desktops in the bottom right is multiplied by 207:15
mark__anyone who can help plz pm me07:16
surgyi need a good program that will monitor stocks and display them on my desktop..... any ideas?07:20
mark__stock watch superkaramba widgit07:21
se7en_surgy:  i don't know about socket but have a look at conky07:21
surgywhat is superkaramba?07:22
mark__http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3394207:22
mark__a widgit manager07:22
mark__sudo apt-get install superkaramba07:22
se7en_sorry stocks not sockets :) i think i go sleep now surgy07:22
surgy:)07:23
surgylkaterz se7en_07:23
mark__once installed open the stock watch .SKZ file with superkaramba07:23
mark__and highlight widgit and click add to desktop07:23
surgydo i have superkaramba?07:24
mark__its dosent come pre loaded on ubuntu or kubuntu07:24
mark__you need to install07:24
surgyis it in the repos?07:25
mark__yar07:25
surgythnx man07:26
mark__np07:26
surgyhow do i configure which stocks are displayed?07:28
mark__right click the widgit and click configure theme07:29
mark__you can add your symbols through there07:30
surgyand that will change the stock that is being displayed?07:30
mark__should after you hit OK07:31
surgyso i need to know the symbol ok man thnx alot07:32
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terrroristhello my please lcd is giving me dark picture when video plays. it was good on etime that's how i knew i couldn't see anything before. how can i get it work bright? thank you :f07:32
mark__np, enjoi07:32
surgyyep07:34
surgylaterz07:34
surgyi can get rid of the .skz file now right?07:34
mark__yeah, make sure you save your sessions so superkaramba and your widgits will load up on next reboot07:35
surgysave my sessions?07:36
terrroristhello my please lcd is giving me dark picture when video plays. it was good on etime that's how i knew i couldn't see anything before. how can i get it work bright? thank you :f07:36
mark__in system settings open up the session manager (should be on the secondary page) and select manually save sessions07:36
mark__then click the K menu and click save current session, then rather than loading up the apps that were loaded where you left off it will load only the apps running when you saved the session07:37
mark__tis a beautiful thing07:38
bahmanHow could I register my nickname07:40
bahman?!07:40
mark__well regardless whenever i start compiz it shows 4 desktops in the bottom right of the screen, but through the system settings it shows only 2 is enabeled. when i try and use the 3d cube feature of compiz it just shows the desktops as a double sided piece of paper with only 2 desktops. if i try and enable more desktops through the system settings its the same thing but the number of desktops in the bottom right is multiplied by 207:41
Cavallobahman: /msg nickserv help07:41
terrroristhello my please lcd is giving me dark picture when video plays. it was good on etime that's how i knew i couldn't see anything before. how can i get it work bright? thank you :f07:43
bahmanCavallo I register in this way: /,sg bahman <PASS> but couldn't send any private msg!07:43
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mint2can anyone help07:46
mint2trying to download wine07:46
mint2but adept says "coult not commit changes"  Adept batch07:46
mint2anyone ?07:47
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surgylol07:49
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surgyif you restart your system or log out it will more than likely fix this issue07:50
mint2surgy:  can u help ?07:50
mint2and then will i be able to install it ?07:50
surgyoh and btw adept sucks07:50
mint2what would you advise then07:50
surgyyou should use the terminal using the command "sudo apt-get"07:51
surgyfor wine, kill adept07:51
surgymake sure its turned off07:51
surgythen open the terminal and type "sudo apt-get install wine"07:51
surgywithout the ""07:51
mint2adept downloads it and all, but when it installs it says that07:52
surgyyeah adept sucks07:52
mint2but i like that auto update feature07:53
mint2i mean am a newbie it greatly helps the migration07:53
surgyits unstable, slow uglly and i cant ever find exactly what i want, its much faster and generally better to do things like this using the terminal07:53
surgyyeah use the auto update feature07:53
mint2from adept u mean ?07:53
surgybut if you want to use linux you kindof need to learn to use the terminal07:53
surgyyeah07:54
mint2yeah    ultimately07:54
mint2thats my aim07:54
mint2but i need to walk before i run07:54
surgyits just when you want to add a package that isnt allready installed use the terminal, but let adept handle your auto updates07:54
mint2it did the same withthe auto updates i think07:54
surgyso start by killing all aplications except this07:54
surgyits verry important that adept is turned off07:55
surgyand then open a terminal07:55
retardeddhello my please lcd is giving me dark picture when video plays. it was good on etime that's how i knew i couldn't see anything before. how can i get it work bright? thank you :f07:55
surgyretardedd: that makes little sense but check your kde menu and look in system settings and then go to display, if its not there then you need to look in your xorg.conf07:56
surgymint2: ok you need to type this "sudo apt-get update" without the "" and look what it says, it will check for updates and download what you need,07:57
surgymint2: and then to get wine the command is "sudo apt-get install wine"07:57
surgyand if you wanted to search the repositories for wine the command whould be "sudo apt-cache search wine" and if you wanted to uninstall wine the command whould be "sudo apt-get remove wine"07:58
surgyget it?07:58
mint2sorta07:58
surgyfeal free to ask questions, but whatever you do trust me, using a gui in linux is not the way to go, the best way to aproach it (or for me it was when i migrated) is to use the terminal to set up the gui how you want it07:59
surgyand after its set up then use the gui08:00
mint2thanks, wanna go easy08:00
surgyyou want to do it the easy way?08:00
mint2i mean i wanna be able to do it in the terminal shortly08:00
mint2its hardly been 2 days, lol go easy on me sarge08:01
surgylol08:01
* mint2 does his lunges08:01
surgywell start copy pasteing then :) theres nothing easy about linux, and its hard to do anything, but remember when your done setting it up exactly how you want it, it will stay that way forever08:02
mint2again !!08:02
mint2could not commit changes08:02
mint2why is it doing this08:02
surgyusing adept?08:02
surgydid you restart?08:02
surgydid you update useing adtitude?08:02
surgyaptitude*08:03
mint2wait let me restart08:03
mint2i did08:03
mint2u mean reboot the whole pc08:03
surgyor just log out08:03
surgyand back08:03
girishright08:04
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surgyhi mint208:05
mint2logged back in08:06
mint2again could not commit changes08:06
mint2what could it be08:06
surgyok man you ready to do it the right way?08:06
mint2honestly, i wanna get adept to work. it would be a great tool for me for now08:06
mint2not so much for wine, i run xp home too08:07
surgyits harder for me to tell you click here and then there and then here and there than it is for me to give you a command that you can copy/paste08:07
mint2coul du help me get adept workin properly ?08:07
surgyive been using kubuntu for a year and a half now and i still cant get adept to work right half the time, its not that great of a program08:07
surgymint2: yeah but you have to do some terminal work but not much08:08
surgyclose adept and open a terminal08:08
mint2ok08:08
surgynow type this:08:09
surgysudo apt-get update08:09
surgyit will prompt you for your root password, and when you type it it will look like your not typing it08:09
surgythats so the other guy in the room doesnt know your pw08:09
mint2ok it says reading package lists.. done08:09
surgyok and now its prompting forthe next command?08:10
surgyok the next one is this:08:10
surgysudo apt-get update08:10
surgysorry08:10
surgysudo apt-get upgrade08:10
mint2didnt i type it ?08:10
mint2ok lets type again08:10
surgyno08:10
surgyits upgrade this time08:10
vivekhow  to run compiz fusion in Kubuntu 7.10????08:11
surgy!compiz | vivek08:12
ubotuvivek: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion08:12
jamman105hello08:15
surgyhi08:15
jamman105has anybody gotten the kde4 kopete to export the user picture thingy?08:16
vivek!compiz08:18
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion08:18
vivek!opera08:22
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser08:22
surgyvivek: you should type /msg before you ask ubotu a question08:23
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LamerManhi everyone! how could i make program dump its "core"? how when it's written "core dumped" there is no core in the folder with the program :(08:31
LamerMan:(08:31
jamman105LamerMan, that means that something bad happened08:31
jamman105haha.. but i couldnt tell you what it is08:31
LamerManyeah i know. Bu i need the core for debugging08:31
biovoreLamerMan: the coredump file will be in the directory you ran the program from..08:32
biovoreprobably your home dir..08:32
LamerManbut there is nothing08:32
LamerMani use kubuntu 7.10 i38608:32
jamman105LamerMan, did the program give you any info?08:32
biovorewell might have not run from your home directory then..08:32
LamerManjamman105, i need just core :) i cant find it08:33
mint2anyone can help with a buggy adept ?08:33
LamerManbiovore, do i have to run any program to get the core from my home directory?08:33
icewatermanshouldnt usb 2.0 support dma?08:33
LamerMani wrote a program in my home dir which receives SIGSEGV, but there's no core in its folder (/home/user/program) anyway :(08:35
jamman105LamerMan, did you run the program from the terminal?08:36
LamerManjamman105 yes08:36
jamman105LamerMan, well, ive got nothing then08:36
LamerManthanks anyway for trying to help :)08:37
jamman105LamerMan, haha... any time. ill probably be more help in like... 12 hours or so...08:37
surgy!ati | mint208:40
ubotumint2: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:40
ruslanhelo im new to linux trying to install nvidia drivers,and need to kill x server,can someone help me,i searched forums none of the methods work,im runing kubuntu,txanx08:41
jamman105ruslan, press ctrl+alt+f108:41
jamman105then login08:41
jamman105then "sudo killall kdm"08:41
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ruslanim trying to install nvidia drivers can someone,i need to kill x server,can someone plese help08:49
LamerMancore saves now, i just forgot to setrlimit(RLIMIT_CORE, &rlim); :)08:50
jamman105ruslan, ctrl+alt+f108:50
jamman105then login08:50
jamman105then sudo killall gdm08:51
jamman105if that doesnt work, sudo killall kdm08:51
ruslanctr alt f1 doesnt work08:51
jamman105meaning?08:51
jamman105it doesnt give you a terminal?08:51
ruslansudo killall kdm kills my system,cntr alt f1 doesnt give me terminal,im running kubuntu08:52
jamman105well instead of killall kdm try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"08:53
jamman105thats more graceful08:53
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ruslansudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop,that killed my system to,it took me to black screen i could type but it wasnt command prompt,sorry 4 questions im new to linux08:59
oliverhi good morning ...08:59
ruslanis there a easier way to install nvidia drivers?like livna in fedora09:01
oliveris there explaination why a scanner is nor recognized in hardy when it was in gutsy09:01
emilsedghruslan: restricted manager09:02
emilsedghruslan: System Settings->Advanced->Restricted Manager09:02
oliverand ruslan: u have to insatll first09:04
oliverruslan: install, sorry09:04
oliveris there explaination why a scanner is not recognized in hardy when it was in gutsy    "CANON Lide60"09:06
ruslanok my problem is this:i cant booy with my nvidia card,i gotta swith to my onboard intel card to boot,when i go to restricted manager i cant select my card because "status not in use"09:06
sgroveroliver: hardy is still beta, and you're surprised things aren't "perfect"??  :)09:07
sgroverruslan: can you use the nvidia card, but using the "nv" drivers?09:07
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oliversgrover: don't they start off with what they already have (i.e. Hardware Database)09:08
ruslannv drivers?the pacage from nvidia website?09:08
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oliversgrover: and BTW even its beta (ALPHA 3 actually) it runs very stable, i was just wondering09:10
sgroveroliver: sorry, I can't speculate on how the devs do things.  But, I would suspect it's an issue of getting the right details to the scanner routines.09:14
sgroverKinda like adding a printer to the foomatic database...09:14
sgroversorry, scanners haven't been a high requirement for me.. :(09:15
oliversgrover: nevermind09:15
oliversgrover: i was just wondering since it worked in gutsy09:16
sgroverruslan ? you still here?  Check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file - near the bottom of the file will be a "device" section for your video card there.  does the driver line say "nv" or "nvidia"?09:16
sgroveroliver: understood.  sorry didn't mean to come across as snippy... just haven't touched Hardy (yet)...  But I tend to stick with the official releases for stability reasons... (on my business machines...)09:17
oliversgrover: u did not :-), i changed from gutsy to suse10.3 and back to hardy (since yesterday)09:19
oliversgrover: so i like to play around with different distros, so far i love kubuntu09:20
oliverbye for now, cu09:22
sgroveroliver: yep, kubuntu does it for me too.  But I DO play with other distros - in VMs though.09:22
sgrovernight.09:22
olivernight (here its good morning)09:23
oliverbye09:23
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ubuntuhello,im new 2 linux,switch my video cards,and now all i get is black screen with command prompt,is there a command that i can type to het back to gui?like win in windows09:33
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ubuntuhi,imnew to linux can someone help09:35
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jussi01!ask | ubuntu09:36
ubotuubuntu: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)09:36
surgyis it ok to poll this channel if its on subject?09:36
emilsedghubuntu: ask!09:36
fignewguys he already did09:36
suihi09:36
fignew[04:33] <ubuntu> hello,im new 2 linux,switch my video cards,and now all i get is black screen with command prompt,is there a command that i can type to het back to gui?like win in windows09:36
ubuntui did no one answered09:36
Jmordenatafignew try startx09:37
fignewlol, tell ubuntu, not me ;)09:37
surgyfignew: and its not windows, its Xwindows09:37
Jmordenataok, so ubuntu, try startx xD09:37
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ubuntuthats the command?cause im running live cd right now09:38
suiubuntu: what do you mean with "switch my video cards'?09:38
ubuntui have nvidia pci and live cd wouldnt boot with it al i would get is command prompt,so i figured if i installed kubuntu with my onboard card,and then installed nvidia drivers it would boot but it didnt,so now im stuck with black screen command prompt09:41
emonkeyctrl+Shift+F709:41
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ubuntuis there a command tht i can inter to get back to gui?09:44
suiubuntulog: you installed kubuntu with your nvidia card and it does not work and after that you rebooted without your nvidia card? is that right?09:44
ubuntuno i installed kubuntu with my onboard card,then after instalation i installed nvidia drivers and switced back to nvidia09:45
ubuntuand now all i see is uername:username~$09:46
surgyubuntu you need to read about that a bit09:47
ubuntu_ok so now let me ask something... look I'm talking to you from a MacBook with a Kubuntu 6.06 LIveCD, because I can't boot my MacBook; it's stuck in the loading. When I try to mount the HD from Kubuntu I get an error like this one: "mount: no se puede encontrar /dev/sda2 en /etc/fstab o /etc/mtab" Which means something like "I couldn't found /dev/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab... What can I do?09:47
surgy!nvidia | ubuntu09:47
ubotuubuntu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:47
suiubuntulog: ok, now ii got it. which card do you have?09:47
ubuntu3d fx 5500 pci 256mb09:48
suiubuntulog: 3dfx? is that an old voodoo-card?09:49
ubuntui tried instaling like 5 different distros and all got same problem,only once that worked with my card wewre fedora,and few others09:49
ubuntuno nvidia09:49
ubuntunvidia fx5500 526mb pci09:50
ubuntui mean 256mb09:50
ubuntuelive,gos,vector had same problem,fedora worked but fedora realy buggy09:51
suiubuntu: if you already installed the nvidia-driver as explained in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto I suppose you need to configure tour xorg.conf manually09:52
ubuntuok i will get to that,if you tell me what to type so i can get back to gui from command prompt,cause im running live cd now09:53
ubuntuwhen kubuntu boots i get progress bar with kubuntu logo but after that command prompt09:54
ubuntuis there a command like win used to be in windows to start linux from comand prompt?09:56
Lynoureubuntu: startx09:56
suiubuntu: if you configured your xserver properly kubuntu should do this alone09:56
Lynoureubuntu: if by 'linux' you mean kde :)09:56
Lynoureonce you have a command prompt, you have already successfully started linux :)09:57
ubuntui mean gui graphical desktop not black screen with letters09:57
suiubuntu: you see the command propt. it's  uername:username~$ and there you can type startx09:57
justin_where can i get a C++ compiler for kubuntu09:58
ubuntuthanx,im gonna try that,b right back09:58
jussi01justin_: sudo apt-get install build-essential09:58
klaus328zusammen! kann mir bitte jemand weiterhelfen!? wie bekomme ich die 3 d beschleunigung bei einer nvidia grafikkarte hin??danke schon mal...09:58
jussi01!de | klaus32809:58
ubotuklaus328: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:58
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wahi10:00
justin_im trying to add another mirror to the sources.list in /etc/apt but it wont let me it says im not root and debain wont let you log in as root10:09
se7en_justin_: sudo nano /etc/apt/source.lst10:09
se7en_!root | justin_10:09
ubotujustin_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo10:10
justin_sudo? root? i thought sudo was a backend package manager10:10
jpatrick!sudo | justin_10:11
ubotujustin_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.10:11
wietsehiya10:12
Lynourejustin_: kind of understandable mistake, if you mostly have seen sudo in the context of installing or removing packages :)10:12
wietsei'm trying to install audacity but am experiencing a few problems10:12
wietsecan anyone help?10:12
Lynourewietse: we'll only know after we try. What kind of problems?10:12
justin_i really dont have a lof of exp in debain10:12
gan|y|medgood morning10:12
wietsewell i normally use adept installer or manager or something but it comes up with the error: ' Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). '10:14
ubuntuok i tryed startx,i get no nvidia devices present and fatal eror10410:14
justin_so how do i use this to add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main to my sources.lst10:14
Lynoure!aptfix10:14
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »10:14
wietsethen i tried 'sudo apt-get install audacity' which then said: ' E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)10:15
wietseE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?10:15
wietse '10:15
Lynourewietse: see what ubutu said...10:15
wietseok trying10:15
ubuntuand kubunt wont start with my onboard card now10:15
wietse' Errors were encountered while processing:10:16
wietse chillispot10:16
wietse '10:16
wietsewill i need to reboot?10:16
Lynourewietse: no. just something wrong in the chillispot, reboot won't make a difference10:18
wietseok thanks ubotu and Lynoure, i think its working again :-)10:18
ubuntucan someone tell me how to configure xorg to get my nvidia card to work,when i boot i get kubuntu logo screen with progress bar but command prompt after that10:19
_hufi_seems that quakenet is down10:20
jussi01ubuntu: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:20
ubuntuthanx10:20
ubuntubut i have 1 problem:im on my onboard video card now because kubuntu wont boot with nvidia10:23
ubuntuit detected my onboard card but not nvidia because i swithed them in my bios in order to boot10:24
surgymy yoda widget wont speak any ideas?10:25
jussi01surgy: kde 3 or 4?10:25
surgy410:26
jussi01surgy: kde4 help in #kubuntu-kde410:26
surgywait10:26
surgykubuntu 7.10 comes standard with kde4 right?10:26
jussi01nope10:26
surgythen im on 310:26
jpatrick!kde4 > surgy10:27
surgyok so i need two things i need to make my yoda talk and i need to get a working weather widget for superkaramba, and i tried there channel its more stagnent than a sesspool10:28
jpatricksurgy: look for Liquid Weather on kde-look.org10:28
surgyok thank you10:29
surgyand that will work with superkaramba?10:29
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_hufi_how i can copy a decrypted dvd?10:37
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wietsehi ubotu and Lynoure, sorry i'm back, but i ran the adept updater, which said after it downloaded the updates gave an error, saying there were some errors with packages or something and now the same problem occurs when trying to start either the adept manager or adept updater. Any suggestions how i can fix this forever?10:39
jpatrick!dvd | _hufi_10:39
ubotu_hufi_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs10:39
unggnuhi all10:43
unggnuDoes anyone know how to add APs to knetworkmanager with a script?10:43
ksweeleyHello, I cannot get FireFox to open in Kubuntu.10:44
unggnuksweeley, Den aus den Quellen oder den von Mozilla?10:44
ksweeleyI go to the K-Menu then to Internet then to Firefox and I click on it and it will not open.10:45
llutzksweeley: open a konsole, type "firefox" and watch messages for errors10:45
unggnuksweeley, Start konsole and insert firefox10:45
unggnu:)10:45
ksweeleyOkay, I did that, I get: "/usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_once_init_enter_impl"10:46
ksweeleyEvery other programs work with the exception of Firefox.10:47
llutzksweeley: sudo ldconfig10:49
gorlaki have a question, whats the command to list what program is accessing/using a certain directory, i keep trying to do a apt-get install, and its telling me it cant lock the download dir10:49
llutzksweeley: then try again10:49
ksweeleyOkay, I did the command in the Konsole, typed in my password, Firefox still will not open.10:50
llutzksweeley: one more:  export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib ; sudo ldconfig10:50
llutzksweeley: then firefox again10:51
ksweeleyllutz: Okay, entered that command, Firefox still will not work.10:51
llutzksweeley: that's odd,  sorry no idea then10:52
ksweeleyDamn, because when I click on Firefox, it shows up for a few seconds on the taskbar with the other programs I have open and then it just disappears, does not open.10:53
jussi01ksweeley: have you looked to see if there is a firefox process running?10:54
ksweeleyHow do I do that?10:54
Sbucatonehello what is command to get kernel iformation ?10:54
llutzSbucatone: uname -r10:54
llutzksweeley: pgrep firefox-bin10:54
ksweeleyNothing shows up: "ksweeley@ksweeley-desktop:~$ pgrep firefox-bin10:55
ksweeleyksweeley@ksweeley-desktop:~$"10:55
llutzso none running10:55
Sbucatonellutz: thank!you!!10:55
ksweeleyNo, and when I try running it, it will not open.10:55
llutzksweeley: ldd /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin |grep gdk10:57
ksweeley"root@ksweeley-desktop:~# ldd /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin |grep gdk10:57
ksweeley        libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x00002b28307b5000)10:57
ksweeley        libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0x00002b28317d4000)"10:57
llutzksweeley: apt-cache policy firefox|grep -i install10:58
ksweeley"root@ksweeley-desktop:~# apt-cache policy firefox|grep -i install10:59
ksweeley  Installed: 2.0.0.11+2nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10"10:59
wietsehiya10:59
wietsei'm trying to install audacity using adept manager10:59
wietseit comes up with error:10:59
llutzksweeley: apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0 |grep -i install10:59
ksweeley"root@ksweeley-desktop:~# apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0 |grep -i install11:00
ksweeley  Installed: 2.12.0-1ubuntu3"11:00
llutzksweeley: same versions here. </end of ideas>11:00
Sbucatone:) hey i have a problem with my webcam i suppose i have not chance ....http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=87511:00
Sbucatoneany idea?11:01
ksweeleyWell, what's really weird llutz is I just downloaded Firefox from the official website, extracted the files onto the desktop and when I run "firefox" from the extracted files, it works.11:01
slow-motionhi11:02
jussi01Hmmm, Im trying to draw a circle in krite, but I want the line slightly thicker, any ideas how to do thatP?11:02
llutzksweeley: try "sudo aptitude reinstall firefox"11:03
jussi01krita*11:03
ksweeleyOkay, did that, still will not open from the K-Menu.11:04
jussi01nm, got it11:04
llutzksweeley: try "sudo aptitude reinstall libgtk2.0-0 "  too11:04
davebvHi! I have a problem hehe11:05
davebvI added the repo for the kde4 (the ppa one)11:05
ksweeleyOkay, did that command, still will not open through the K-Menu.11:05
holahi, why i have to create a ppp0 interface in order to connect to internet by my adsl modem?11:06
llutzksweeley: then use the one from mozilla.org :)  no, there should be a solution, but unfortunately i dont know where :(11:06
davebvand I did update and dist-upgrade, so kdebase and some other packages were upgraded. And then, when I plug usb devices nothing happens, I use amarok to sync my ipod, and it was detected before but not now11:07
wietsei seem to be unable to run updates/ installs using adept manager/ updater. i've added the output from adept manager when trying to install audacity here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52750/11:07
wietsecan anyone help?11:07
ksweeleyOkay, yes, the "firefox" file from the extracted files that I downloaded from getfirefox.org works and bookmarking and stuff also works.11:07
ksweeleyVery strange that Firefox won't work by going to the K-Menu but it does work when I click on the "firefox" file from the extracted files.11:08
davebvI configure amarok to autodetect devices and a message pops up: No new media devices were found. If you feel this is an error, ensure that the DBUS and HAL daemons are running and KDE was built with support for them. You can test this by running "dcop kded mediamanager fullList" in a Konsole window11:09
ksweeleyWell, thanks for trying to help llutz.11:10
llutznp11:10
holahi, why i have to create a ppp0 interface in order to connect to internet by my adsl modem?11:11
llutzhola: because you need a device to "talk" to your modem via pppoe11:11
ksweeleyOne more thing, how do I get Flash to work in Firefox and Konquerer?11:11
llutzksweeley: flashplugin-nonfree, but it's broken atm11:12
ksweeleyDamn... Most of the sites I use requires Flash, any clue on when it will be fixed?11:12
kreibin kde4 , how do you save the session, so that the same programs starts automagically on next boot11:13
holallutz: my question is...why is not possibile only with my internal ethernet device?11:13
sergHi. When i nstall NVIDA driver un Kubuntu 7.04 and start graphics session by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace everything works fine. But when i reboot black screen appears, system freezes and don't want to start. What tis the reason or how to determine it?11:14
llutzhola you connect modem -> int. ethernet, but you need ppp to "talk" to your modem not ethernet, so a ppp-device is needed11:14
ksweeleyDo you know when Flash will be fixed?11:14
llutzksweeley: they said "soon" :(11:15
ksweeleyWell, that makes no sense. Most websites these days requires Flash.11:15
llutz!flash11:15
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash11:16
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.11:16
holallutz: ok tnk11:16
davebvcan anybody help me? is anybody experiencing the same issue? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52752/11:16
JoshOvkimorning11:18
_hufi_whats youre Problem?11:19
JoshOvkii  havnt got one. Here to help :)11:20
wietsei seem to be unable to run updates/ installs using adept manager/ updater. i've added the output from adept manager when trying to install audacity here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52750/11:21
wietsecan anyone help?11:21
jpatrickwietse: try "sudo apt-get install -f" from the command line11:22
wietseok11:22
davebv_hufi_: was that for me?11:23
wietsejpatrick: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52753/11:25
jpatrick!aptfix | wietse11:26
ubotuwietse: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »11:26
wietseok11:26
bazhangdavebv: this is a kde4 issue?11:27
wietsewietse@snor:~$ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a11:27
wietseSetting up audacity (1.3.3-1build1) ...11:27
wietseSetting up chillispot (1.0-6ubuntu1) ...11:27
wietsedebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable11:27
wietsedpkg: error processing chillispot (--configure):11:27
wietse subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 111:27
wietseErrors were encountered while processing:11:27
wietse chillispot11:27
wietseoops11:28
wietsesorry11:28
jussi01!paste > wietse11:28
davebvbazhang: I don't really know, I think is a problem when compiling the packages, it happens when I am on KDE311:28
jpatrickwietse: I don't know what /var/cache/debconf/config.dat does...11:29
davebvi don't mean I compiled the packages, I am using from the repos: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main11:29
MaskedOnewhy is it Kubuntu is taking 800k memory when all I'm running is this program?11:29
bazhang#kubuntu-kde4 may help with that davebv11:29
davebvbazhang: ok, thank you! I will try there11:30
bazhangMaskedOne: open up konsole and type top and see for yourself11:30
MaskedOnelooks less helpfull than ksysmonitor lol11:31
jpatrickwietse: maybe: "sudo fuser -vki /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"11:31
wietseok i'll try that11:31
bazhangMaskedOne: then install htop11:31
MaskedOneinstalling gnome system monitor just for kicks and giggles right now11:32
bazhang!info htop11:32
ubotuhtop (source: htop): interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.6-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 45 kB, installed size 176 kB11:32
wietsejpatrick: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52755/11:32
wietseit did the same before11:33
wietsewhen trying 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'11:33
MaskedOnewth? lol11:34
MaskedOneSystem Monitor and Htop report 151k used whilst KsysGuard reports 900k?11:34
nuyaohello, is it possible to give java apps the QT look & feel?11:34
MaskedOneI take it SysGuard is buggy? lol11:35
jelhi all :)11:35
jelWhat's the best way to disable the shift-backspace combination?  It's driving me nuts :)11:35
jpatrickjel: killing X?11:35
kozzjel: adding "DontZap" to xorg.conf11:39
jpatrickkozz: ahh, I read "describe"11:39
MaskedOneso anyone have a clue ath is wrong with my sysmonitor?11:39
jelI still want Ctrl-Alt-Del to work though11:40
jussi01MaskedOne: the difference between 151k and 900k is hardly worth worrying about...11:40
MaskedOneum your saying 700mb of ram isnt worth worrying about?11:41
MaskedOneDo you have 5g ram or something? lol11:41
jussi01MaskedOne: mb? you talking mb or k?11:41
MaskedOneK being thousands11:41
Tm_Tkilo11:41
Cavallois there any svn addon for konqueror to use svn command directly from konqueror ?11:41
MaskedOneso would be 151,000kb and 900,000kb11:41
MaskedOnetherefore 151mb and 900mb11:42
kozzCavallo: kdesvn11:42
MaskedOnebig difference lol11:42
jussi01MaskedOne: ahh, now you explain better... I naturally assumed k=kilobyes...11:42
jussi01lol11:42
MaskedOnesorry my bad lol11:42
travlrHi. I have a question about kde4 showing in the kde3 kdm menu... I built kde4 from source and have a kde4.desktop in /usr/share/xsessions/ but "KDE 4" is not showing in the kdm menu. Any help appreciated. Thanks...11:42
MaskedOneso any clue whats up with KSysGuard? lol11:42
Cavallokozz: I have it but in konqueror is not shown any option for svn11:42
jussi01travlr: kde4 support -> #kubuntu-kde411:42
travlr@jussi01: thank you.11:43
jussi01:)11:43
jussi01MaskedOne: not sure, tho I do remember someone once saying something about "reserved memory" but you would need to google that more...11:44
MaskedOnehmm ok11:44
MaskedOneSince I have ya on any clue why when i open something such as Add/Remove (adept installer) it opens it fine but then decides to still think it is opening one and has a minimized windows with hourglass and bouncy thing going?11:45
jussi01MaskedOne: yeah, just means its still loading some element of it in the background. I think you can turn it off11:45
jussi01the same as the little bouncy thing11:45
MaskedOnelol, so any clue how to turn it off?11:46
MaskedOnecause when im showing Kubuntu to family and it does that they look at me like it is broke, and it serves no function to me anyway11:46
cn28hI just installed Gutsy and now sound in tvtime doesn't work (though sound in general does).  I've investigated all volume controls and I know it's plugged in correctly because the sound worked before I installed  The sound only sticks at 99% or 100% in tvtime and I can't adjust it.  Any ideas?11:46
jussi01MaskedOne: system settings -> keyboard and mouse -> mouse  -> untick visual activatiion blah blah11:46
cn28hIt was working before on Edgy11:46
kozzCavallo: kubuntu 7.10?11:47
jussi01cn28h: type alsamixer in konsole and make sure everything is unmuted11:47
MaskedOnevisual feedback on activation?11:47
jussi01MaskedOne: yeah11:47
MaskedOnedid so and it changed nothing, unless it requires restart?11:47
cn28hjussi01, that's what I meant by investigated all volume controls11:47
jussi01cn28h: ahh, ok11:47
cn28hjussi01, there seems to be a deeper problem, as the sound controls within tvtime won't adjust to any value other than 99% or 100% volume11:48
cn28hI had a similar problem in xmms before when I built a kernel w/o OSS support and tried using OSS11:48
cn28hhm, I wonder if tvtime uses OSS11:48
cn28hbah, looks like it does11:49
jussi01cn28h: that is certainly something worth checking11:49
cn28hI'm guesing that's the problem11:49
jussi01there is the issue :D11:49
MaskedOneim just glad it was a sysguard funk, cause i didnt wanna have to go back to gnome lol11:49
jussi01lol11:50
MaskedOnewell time to go, thanks Juss!11:51
icewatermananyone using qemu?11:54
icewatermani'd like to know if accelerator module works correctly on ubuntu11:54
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servicehi there. how do i uninstall all the gnome applications12:09
service?12:09
jpatrick!purekde | service12:09
ubotuservice: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »12:09
servicethanks12:09
serviceand one other problem12:11
serviceat home i can't make the gui work. i have nvidia 8800 gt.12:11
ubuntuhi,can someone give me advice on how big partitions should be for 40gig hd,i know size for /,/home,/swap and /temp,can i get recomandations for /srv,/var,/opt,or is it better not to make seperate partitions for them?12:12
servicei tryed gutsy feisty and edgy but still couldn't do it. i installed the drivers from nvidia in text mode but xorg doesn't start12:12
jpatrickservice: tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?12:12
serviceyes12:13
serviceno result12:13
jpatrickservice: maybe "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"12:13
servicei did that12:13
servicei used nano to modify xorg.conf12:13
servicebut i can't get the image start12:13
serviceeven the boot dvd starts in text mode12:13
jpatrickservice: what does "startx" give?12:14
servicei haven't tried that :D12:14
servicei googled 8800 gt driver issues but still can't fix it12:15
servicei feel like i'm dying12:15
jpatrickand try looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log12:16
selenehi i m having probs with knetworkmanager, wireless networks do not show up and even manually configuring isn't helping anymore .. i have AR5007EG (wireless card)12:19
serviceanother question? which is the command to find a running process? grep|proc kopete......?12:20
suiselene: the driver foryour card loaded properly?12:22
seleneyeah.. it working this morning and then it stopped..12:23
suiselene: i had solved a weird problem with knetworkmanager yesterday. take a look at your /etc/network/interfaces - are there any entries?12:24
selenehmm yes .. i have beeen googling this prob too and it was mentioned sumwhere to change sumthin there but that hasnt helped :(12:25
auraxelkbuntu you idiot :)12:25
MichaelSammelsWhen I try to mount my USB Flash Drive in Kubuntu 6.06 it says that it couldn't execute pmount.12:26
selenesui: yes12:26
suiselene: remove all entries in your /etc/network/interfaces and save the file. this should solve your problem12:26
selenehmmm ok..12:27
* selene will be back..12:27
serghi help me please http://pastebin.org/1617512:28
dukihello12:29
auraxelkbuntu you tiny faggot12:30
aurax;)12:30
auraxhaha12:30
bazhangaurax stop12:31
DreadKnightxD12:32
oscaris there supposed to be a map called "system" in root?12:32
oscarfolder*12:33
selenesui: waaah!12:33
oscar?12:33
suiselene: does it work?12:33
seleneno :'(12:34
oscarbecouse, my kdm is really really fucked up right now. Is there anyway to repair?12:34
dukiI installed ubuntu to a friend,  before it was using windows,  he was able to open a to fill a xpdf form zith explorer,  but now  with kubuntu he cqn just open it but not fill it .12:34
dukiis there any solution to this problem?12:34
bazhangusing firefox duki?12:34
dukibazhang:  yes he is using firefox12:35
suiselene: what's the error you get when you try to use your wireless connection?12:35
dukibazhang:  and the doc is opened with xpdf but cannot fill it12:35
jussi01!ohmy | oscar12:35
bazhangduki: there is a firefox addon called user agent switcher that may help there--it makes firefox appear as vista/ie12:35
oscarjussi01: what?12:35
ubotuoscar: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.12:36
selenenuthin..they don't show..so i try to set things manually but it still ain't working12:36
bazhanglanguage oscar12:36
oscaroh, sorry12:36
oscarI meant, everything is a mess and i dont know how to fix it :(12:36
oscarI cant even set a desktop wallpaper12:37
bazhangduki: how about using acroread12:37
suiselene: are you able to scan wifi networks with iwlist $device (eth1 mostly) scan?12:37
Distance66Linux doesn't do so well with bluetooth keyboard/mice does it12:37
seleneyeah..12:37
Scubarhi12:38
dukibazhang: I  shall install it12:39
Scubarhow can i run i386 apps on an x64 install ?12:39
Scubartryna install opera on the x64 version and it doesnt work12:40
CppIsWeirdi deleted a bunch of files, about 500mb or so, and i dont see anything in trash or anywhere else and i have only 1mb of free space, how come?12:41
bin4ryhey together12:41
CreationistI'm trying to trace an IP address that has left me a few somewhat threatening comments on my blog.  I have traced it thus far to a Comcast account in my state, but when I try talking to Comcast about it, they claim they have absolutely no way of tracing it.  What can I do?12:43
siprimoi12:43
siprimitäs ootte puuhaiilu12:44
jussi01!fi | sipri12:44
ubotusipri: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi12:44
Distance66Just ban the IP, I wouldn't worry about it12:44
bin4ryi got a tiny problem: i tried to install a self compiled kernel from kernel.org. Evrything was fine but then i wanted to delete it since it was pretty huge. Looks like i didnt delete the whole kernel, because im getting problems with dpkg:12:46
suihoert La Tortuga von Jaramar vom Album Native American Odyssey12:46
bin4ryupdate-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.23.12brandnewvanilla12:46
bin4ryCannot find /lib/modules/2.6.23.12brandnewvanilla12:46
bin4ryupdate-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.23.12brandnewvanilla12:46
bin4rydpkg: Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurück12:46
bin4ryE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)12:46
sui*hups* wrong window :)12:47
jussi01!paste | bin4ry12:47
ubotubin4ry: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:47
bin4rysry dude12:47
bin4rya dpkg --configure -a didnt help either12:48
bin4ryso what am i supposed to do12:48
jussi01bin4ry: have you tried sudo apt-get install -f ??12:51
bin4ryyes, i'm still getting the error messages12:52
CppIsWeirdi deleted a bunch of files, about 500mb or so, and i dont see anything in trash or anywhere else and i have only 1mb of free space, how come?12:54
jussi01CppIsWeird: have a look in .trash in you home dir12:56
CppIsWeird"and i dont see anything in trash"12:57
CppIsWeirdi deleted a bunch of files, about 500mb or so, and i dont see anything in trash or anywhere else and i have only 1mb of free space, how come?13:00
SlimeyPe1eCppIsWeird: are you sure that the files were located on the volume which you are trying to free up?13:02
SlimeyPe1ealso if you use the commandline to delete files they won't appear in the trash13:02
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WaltzingAlongdelete deletes files. move to trash moves them to the trash13:03
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RogueJediXIs there a command in Linux that lets you format stuff in FAT32?13:11
SlimeyPeteRogueJediX: mkfs will do it, but I think you have tospecify fat3213:14
SlimeyPetecan't remember how13:14
RogueJediXThanks, SlimeyPete, I'll fiddle around13:14
SlimeyPeteactually I think the command is mkdosfs13:15
SlimeyPetewith a commandline flag of some kind13:15
RogueJediX-F32, I guess13:15
SlimeyPetesounds about right.13:15
martin_!fr13:19
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.13:19
blind_guardianhello13:26
slow-motionbbl13:27
blind_guardiandoes all linux distrub have problem with ai ?13:27
blind_guardianati*13:27
unclemike? besides kde and gnome is there any difference between kubuntu and ubuntu13:28
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SlimeyPeteblind_guardian: the ati drivers are not currently very good13:28
SlimeyPeteso yes, ATI is generally a problem on Linux though it's by no means impossible to get an ATI card to work properly13:28
blind_guardianSlimeyPete: yes really i can't play game and my carte can't support opengl13:29
SlimeyPeteunclemike: different apps installed by default13:29
SlimeyPeteblind_guardian: did you install the restricted drivers, or did you just stick with the default ones?13:29
unclemikeok13:30
blind_guardianSlimeyPete: i use fglrx13:30
SlimeyPeteah right, yeah that's the restricted driver, it's the most functional.13:30
SlimeyPeteif it doesn't support opengl with your card then I'm afraid you're out of options13:30
blind_guardianSlimeyPete: for compiz and metisse it's good13:30
unclemikeget nvidia card13:31
pinguhuhuhi13:31
ruslanhi,imtrying to install nvidia drivers,i need to kill xserver,can someone tell me how to do that,i tried google those methods dont work13:33
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blind_guardianSlimeyPete: wait i saw you the frames13:33
DannilionCtrl+Alt+Backspace, ruslan13:33
blind_guardian24982 frames in 5.0 second = 4990.884 fps13:34
blind_guardianSlimeyPete: 24982 frames in 5.0 second = 4990.884 fps13:34
pinguhuhuI want to slow down the speed of me mouse but xset m 1/2 don't work and in xorg.conf in Section "input defice" Option"Resolution""400" isn't effective too, want can I do ?13:34
blind_guardianSlimeyPete: really too bad13:34
buzukelisyrhy13:35
ruslani have mac keybord,is it ctrl alt and delete?if so,that doesnt work13:35
blind_guardianSlimeyPete: what the nvidia version that verry compatible with all  dist linux13:35
SlimeyPeteblind_guardian: most nvidia cards have excellent linux compatibility13:37
blind_guardianSlimeyPete: 7900 gs ??13:38
SlimeyPete6600 or 7600 work well, and I think the 8-series cards are quite well-supported now13:38
SlimeyPeteyes, I think that will work OK.13:38
bazhangblind_guardian: 730013:38
SlimeyPeteI don't have one myself though.13:38
blind_guardianbazhang SlimeyPete thanks13:38
CrashOverflowKDE4 - rulez13:39
bazhangno worries13:39
CrashOverflow*KDE4 RuLeZ13:39
blind_guardianSlimeyPete: but befor install must desinstall ati driver and what again?13:39
tinelHi all, I need help for my integrated webcam. My notebook is a PackardBell Easynote mx, the webcam is recognised as an usb device called "usb camera 2.0" and i know it's built by ali corp. I really know that it will be an hard work! Any help will be appreciated!!!13:40
bazhangwhat system is default on the easynote tinel13:40
tinelwindows xp13:41
dukiI am not used to pdf documets,  I can open it with kpdf but cannot fill the fields of the form13:41
SlimeyPeteblind_guardian: yeah, good idea13:41
dukiis it possible to fill them?13:41
SlimeyPetetinel: does lsusb show any more information?13:42
SlimeyPetejust a thought.13:42
blind_guardianSlimeyPete: and what after install it befor make in pc or make and after install it ?13:42
blind_guardianSlimeyPete: cause linux different13:42
SlimeyPeteblind_guardian: install after13:42
blind_guardianSlimeyPete: but if i have black screen ?13:43
blind_guardianSlimeyPete: console mode13:43
SlimeyPeteyou won't. You'll see the console.13:43
ruslani,im new to linux,need help installing nvidia,need to kill xserver,sudo killall gdm doesnt work,can someone help,thanx13:43
SlimeyPeteruslan: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop13:43
SlimeyPeteruslan: or sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop     if you use kdm13:43
kreib!ripping13:44
ubotuTo rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh13:44
ruslani just instaled kubuntu,do i have kdm?13:44
SlimeyPeteblind_guardian: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=606905   <-- instructions for installing from command line13:44
SlimeyPeteruslan: yes you have kdm13:44
SlimeyPetekdm is the default.13:45
ruslanthanx,im gonna try it13:45
blind_guardianSlimeyPete: thanks a lot13:45
tinel_  13:48
jpatricktinel_: hi13:48
tinel_hi13:49
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CppIsWeirdi sent a bunch of stuff to my trash to free up some space, however it is neither in my trash nor where it was. It says i have 1mb of freespace when i deleted about 500mb of stuff, anyone have any ideas?13:57
rus1i have a question about nvidia,i cant install it it says i need libc package,can anyone tell me which one i need cause there is about 100 different once13:57
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Benzocainosave a tutti, a chi posso fare una domanda sull'installazione di Kubuntu 7.10?13:59
jpatrick!it | Benzocaino13:59
ubotuBenzocaino: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!13:59
rus1i need help with libc package for nvidia,dont know which package the right one14:00
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DragnslcrCppIsWeird- try checking ~/.local/share/Trash/files/14:02
rus1hi,new to linux need help with libc package for nvidia,thanx14:04
kreib!dvdripping14:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvdripping - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:05
kreib!dvd14:05
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs14:05
jpatrick!botabuse > kreib  (talk to the bot in private for testing)14:06
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rus1can some plese help vith nvidia instalation14:06
holamy system menu in kde menu is cahnged. How to return to the default one14:07
holamy system setting in kde menu is cahnged. How to return to the default one14:08
jpatrick!repeat > hola14:08
jpatrickhola: use kmenuedit14:08
holajpatrick: the problem is that system setting category is changed, is appers differnter respet to the default14:10
rus1i need hel instaling nvidia,need libc package and dont know which one to use14:13
SlimeyPeterus1: libc6-dev14:17
SlimeyPete(I think)14:17
rus1thanx,apriciate it,been instaling nvidia now for 5 hours14:18
tionhola14:18
holation: tell me14:19
SlimeyPeterus1: aren't you using the nvidia packages from apt?14:19
SlimeyPeteyou should use those rather than the file from the nvidia website14:20
rus1i heard nvidia ones are better14:21
SlimeyPeterus1: more up-to-date but harder to install and also you will lose your drivers if a system update updates your kernel14:21
holathe problem is that system setting category is changed, is appers differnter respet to the default14:21
rus1im new to linux,but i read that updates make system slower like in windows14:22
SlimeyPetethat's not true14:23
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snarksterrus1:  that is absolutely not true14:24
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rus1and 2 times i tried to update i get erors,not all pakages install14:24
rus1so would linux run better with updates?14:25
snarksterare you using adept or apt?14:25
jussi01!away > TimS14:25
snarksterwhat are you using to install your updates?14:25
rus1adept updater14:26
snarksterand which updates are missing?14:26
snarkstercould be a dependency problem14:26
snarksterI use adept updater for updates and synaptic for installing software..14:27
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snarksterif you know which ones are missing you could try either apt-get install <packages> or adept installer14:27
rus1no last time i ran adept updater it,yeh i think it was dependency problems14:27
jpatrickor apt-get install -f14:27
snarksterapt-get install -f is alittle dangerous though14:28
snarkstercause you might not get the deps you need.14:28
rus1im wanna try update now,but dont wanna go through pains of reinstaling kubuntu if things go wrong14:29
jpatricksnarkster: that's the point of it14:29
snarkstertrue, but then it doesnt work. :)14:29
snarkstersynaptic has fix broken packages, dont know if adept has that14:30
rus1so if dependencies problem ocurs my system is doomed?14:30
snarksterno its not doomed. LOL14:32
snarksterjust some things wont work right or at all.14:32
snarkstermight have to manually install some packages..14:32
snarksterof course Im an old RPM kinda guy and new to debs.. not sure how that works14:32
rus1sorry for alot of questions,but im trying hard to leave windows,since i cant afford a mac i figured linux is next best thing14:32
snarksteryup it is, but a new way of thinking as well.14:33
snarksterBTW welcome to Linux..14:33
DragnslcrFrom the normal user's view, deb and rpm work the same14:34
rus1i like linux,but installing things could be easier,like pakages in osx14:34
snarksteroh yah they do, install packages and such, just not sure of the command line14:34
snarksterrus1: it is if you get the debs on your desktop14:34
rus1is kubuntu most stable linux?14:35
snarksterthen you just click them and the installer will begin14:35
snarksterrus1: no comment14:35
Tm_Trus1: depends, your mileage will vary etc14:35
rus1debs whats that?14:35
snarksterOh my laptop locked up last night..14:35
snarksterstrangest thing to..14:35
Dragnslcrrus1- installing stuff is easier in Kubuntu. You install everything right from Adept14:35
snarksterI did the alt-sysreq thing and it worked great14:36
senioi don't know what is best for me, kde, gnome, xfce, any sugestions?14:36
Dragnslcrrus1- it's very rare that you have to download packages from any web sites. Usually only for obscure programs or the occasional hardware-specific program14:37
Tm_Tsenio: try and see14:37
Dragnslcrsenio- whichever one you like14:37
giuseppeHi, do u know why when I turn off my notebook, it stays on?14:37
senioTm_T: have this 3 + flux =]14:38
seniowhat's about lib's mixing (gtk apps in kde, and qt in gnome)?14:38
rus1i have another question,when i configure xserver-xorg,it tells me to type what kinda of video card i have,i have fx550 256mb pci,what command exactly should i type?14:39
giuseppecan you help about turn off?14:40
Tm_Tsenio: KDE3 & 4, XFCE, GNOME, WMaker etc etc14:41
snarkstertime for work gents..14:42
snarksterlater14:42
karimhi14:42
senioTm_T:  what's your's opinion about libs mixing?14:42
Tm_Tsenio: no problems14:42
Tm_TKDE <314:42
ubunturos!hi | karim,\14:42
ubotukarim,\: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!14:42
seniothx.14:43
giuseppeanyone can help me about turn-off pc?14:44
Tm_Tgiuseppe: shutdown -P ?14:44
giuseppeTm_T: hi, my problem is thaht when I try to turn-off my pc, after ending KDE my pc stays power-on14:46
Tm_Tgiuseppe: yes14:46
sebbargiuseppe: same happens here sometimes... are you running gutsy?14:46
giuseppesebbar: yes I'm using kubuntu 7.10 gutsy14:47
giuseppeTm_T: do you have any suggestion?14:48
giuseppesebbar: so didn't solved the problem?14:56
Schuenemann!vm14:58
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications14:58
Schuenemannwhich of those VM are free?14:59
Schuenemannoops14:59
DragnslcrI think all of them except Cedega15:00
Schuenemannwasn't vmware paid?15:00
Schuenemannor one with a similar name15:00
holais it possibile to connect a pc with virtual bx?15:01
holasome one uses virtualbox15:04
hydrogenhow do I set the `designer` symlink to point to designer-qt4 instead of designer-qt315:09
Jucatohydrogen: I think update-alternatives takes care of that (forgot the exact command to set it)15:10
Jucatosudo update-alternaives --config designer I think15:10
hydrogenkde-devel@Yes:~/kde/src/amarok/src/servicebrowser/ampache$ sudo update-alternatives --set designer /usr/bin/designer-qt415:11
hydrogenseemed to work15:11
hydrogenthanks15:11
hydrogen:)15:11
Jucatothere :)15:11
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hamfrankhello to anyone15:15
sebbargiuseppe: not really no...15:15
hamfrankbye15:16
NIghtFirehi15:25
holzhi15:25
SKI_27_MIhi! i'm giancarlo15:27
NIghtFireanybody here been successful in getting a Samsung YP-T9J mp3 player to work with any of the linux music programs ?15:27
SKI_27_MIanyone can help me about my soundcard configured but not working ?15:28
NIghtFireski: would that be on a lappy ?15:28
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SKI_27_MIi have an embedded sound card in my board15:31
SKI_27_MIi have installed kubuntu giusty15:31
SKI_27_MIand after installation the mixer work15:31
SKI_27_MIto set up the volume15:31
SKI_27_MIbut i don't ear anithing15:31
NIghtFireski: have you made sure that you have the right "linux" drivers ?15:32
SKI_27_MIkubuntu does not autoset linux driver ?15:32
SKI_27_MIin the previous release the audio work fine!15:32
SKI_27_MIooohhhmmmm15:32
SKI_27_MIno no!15:32
SKI_27_MIerror! i' have changed my motherboard from 1 month..so i cannot know if my sound card work on previous kubuntu releases15:33
SKI_27_MIbut in each case the audio and other device ...set all automatic15:33
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NIghtFireski: you may have to use the "ndiswrapper" system to make linux use the windows drivers.15:34
SKI_27_MIyou can indicate me some guide online to do this ?15:35
NIghtFireski: you could check google. You could also check there for possible location of linux drivers.15:38
darwinhi All15:38
darwinis there a way to speed up a winmodem ?15:39
nicholaithis is really weird. since upgrading to gutsy, all grey text (in menus, in kate, in konversation etc) is extremely hard to read15:39
nicholaialmost impossible15:39
SKI_27_MIyeah, i've found it15:39
NIghtFireski: I have done this but only once and I am not sure I remember all the steps.15:39
SKI_27_MIthanx a lot!15:39
NIghtFirenichalai: you can change the color settings in Konversation probably the other programs too.15:40
nicholainightfire: sure but why do I need to change the color settings in all my apps after the update?15:41
nicholaishaded entries desktop menus are also unreadable in the default color scheme. that's not normal15:41
NIghtFirenicholai: could be that you need to check to see if you have the right video driver in the newer version.15:42
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nicholainightfire: system settings says I'm using ATI and that's what in my xonfig. that's correct15:45
fllszbrncirc://irc.p2p-irc.org/gtn15:46
NightFirenicholai: then I am not sure15:46
NightFireNicholai: have you checked the appearance tab under system preferances ?15:49
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nicholainightfire: yes15:51
nicholainightfire: this guy seem to have the same issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=415931515:53
NightFireAnyone here know what settings I use in Open office to send faxes?15:56
JoshOvkiNightFire: Have you looked at the help in OpenOffice?15:57
root_hello,im new to linux,finaly after 2 days i managed to install nvidia mow its working but,when i go to restart system there is now restart or shutdown i only see logout,and when i do it takes me to command prompt,if i reboot i go to comand prompt,startx dont work,only thing that i can do is install nvidia driver again in order to login in to gui15:58
NightFireroot: look under restricted drivers.16:00
JoshOvkiroot_   after you have looked under the restricted drivers take a look at this thread    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31232716:01
root_yeh but with restricted drivers i dont get nvidia control panel,and 3d16:01
root_thanx,thats exectly my problem,thanx alot16:02
petinahello16:07
JoshOvkihi petina16:08
petinai'm going to be a math major in university, and i'm wondering whether anyone knows anything about different math software, mainly for linux... but if anyone has advice for windows too i suppose that would be great :)16:09
petinai currently have ChemSketch (windows), Mathematica, and SAS16:09
lucky_lucasfor matrix computation you may need scilab16:10
petinaplease explain what that is :)16:11
zhangkaimathematica for linux16:11
petinayep i was planning on getting that!16:12
lucky_lucasI can't explain very well I used just once or twice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scilab16:12
petinaokay thank you!16:13
zhangkaiyou can search Mathematica_V5.0_linux.tar.gz.16:13
petinawhat do you mean?16:14
petinai am waiting for the Scilab page to load, gotta love dial up :P16:14
petinathis sseems pretty dead for so many people!16:19
nicholaigreat. problem solved. the ati xorg driver in gutsy was buggy16:27
NightFirenicholai: great16:27
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randi_wow16:44
randi_how can one normalize user management in kubuntu?16:44
orethguys16:45
orethi just installed kubuntu16:45
orethrdowngraded from 8.0416:45
orethto 7.1016:45
oretheverytime i load up Adept Manager its telling me that the database is locked16:45
oretheven if it's the first thing I do after reboot16:45
randi_does anyone know how to normalize the user and su in Kubuntu?16:45
wassihey16:46
randi_to be linux style16:46
wassiI've got a little problem with Konqueror in combination with Openoffice...16:46
wassiI want to copy a french text from wikipedia to openoffice, but it can't do it correctly16:46
wassiseems to be an encoding issue16:46
wassi(can't deal with special french characters)16:47
wassiany ideas ?16:47
orethno idea, mate16:47
orethbut then again16:47
orethi'm no expert16:47
wassime neither ;)16:47
wassijust switched to kubuntu 2 months ago16:47
wassianyone knows whether it should be possible ?16:48
wassiso it may just be a configuration issue... ?16:48
kozzmight also be the font, if it not has support for those characters16:49
Daisuke_Idowassi: did you install the localization for OOo16:55
Daisuke_Idoi don't know if that would fix it, but hey, worth a shot16:55
mint2i am using kubuntu 7,1016:55
Daisuke_Idomint2: congratulations16:56
mint2when i switch my external hard drive on, it shows up on the desktop16:56
mint2but when i click on it16:56
mint2i get hal-storage-removable-mour refused uid 100016:56
raptor_speak french?16:56
Daisuke_Ido!mount16:56
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter16:56
Daisuke_Idomeh...  this is a common issue, i just don't remember how to fix it16:57
Daisuke_Idotry google?16:57
mint2hmm16:57
raptor_yo16:58
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Distance66Hey guys16:59
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matttishi17:01
matttisis there a countdown tool for (k)ubuntu ?17:01
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nevilleKtimer17:02
mint2can anyone help to set my external hd17:02
nevilleIs that what you're after?17:02
matttisneville: maybe17:02
jelmint2: what's teh problem?17:03
matttismint2: whats the problem ?17:03
jel*the17:03
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mint2i am on kubuntu 7..1017:03
mint2and when i switch my external hd on17:03
mint2 but when i click on it17:04
* jel has a bad feeling about this already :)17:04
mint2 get hal-storage-removable-mour refused uid 100017:04
LjL!info kdoomsday | matttis17:05
ubotumatttis: kdoomsday (source: kdoomsday): countdown timer panel applet for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-4.1 (gutsy), package size 37 kB, installed size 188 kB17:05
LjL!info kalarm | matttis17:05
ubotumatttis: kalarm (source: kdepim): KDE alarm message, command and email scheduler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.7enterprise20070926-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 669 kB, installed size 1924 kB17:05
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mint2can anyone help17:05
jelmint2: try something like sudo addgroup yourusernamehere disk    Then logout and back in17:05
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wassidaisuke: sorry, was away a bit...17:10
wassii installed the german localization17:10
wassishould i install french one ?17:10
mint2exit17:12
matttisLjL: thx, kalarm seems to be the best one17:13
LjL!info kteatime | matttis, there's also this :)17:14
ubotumatttis, there's also this :): kteatime (source: kdetoys): KDE utility for making a fine cup of tea. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 95 kB, installed size 396 kB17:14
biopodhi everyone... is this is the place where i can cry about how kde4 messed my life?17:14
LjL!kde4 > biopod    (biopod, see the private message from Ubotu)17:14
biopod:)17:14
Five_starwhat command would I enter to find out what version I'm running17:14
matttisLjL: well, no thanks, thats toooo special17:14
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biopodthanks17:15
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Five_starwhat would I do to go about finding out what version I'm running (as far as ubuntu goes)17:16
Five_starbecause apt said there was a distro update available but I could have sworn I downloaded 7.1017:17
matttishow do i search in my installed packages ?17:20
matttisI want to find out which package, listed with "sudo apt-cache search" are installed17:22
NickPrestamatttis, `dpkg -l | grep "^ii"`17:29
siprimoi17:30
Tm_Tsipri: moi17:32
petinahello17:36
Distance66Hey, is there a way to add a printer thats on another windows machine on the same network?17:36
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NickPrestaDistance66, add the machine as you would normally, except the device location is a samba address (ie. smb://workgroup/COMPUTER/PRINTER). Check out !printer17:40
NickPresta!tell Distance66 about printer17:40
xxporhey17:41
draik!wireless17:51
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs17:51
draikHas anyone had an issue where you can see the wireless AP, you know the pw, but you are not being connected?17:53
thewhitepelicanhas anyone run into this problem with the new gwenview for kde 4.0.0? When I right click on an image, there is no External tools menu17:54
NickPrestathewhitepelican, ask in #kubuntu-kde417:56
Jucatothewhitepelican: most probably not yet implemented. but ask in #kubuntu-kde4 anyway17:57
thewhitepelicani just did17:58
thewhitepelicanguess the whole prgram was rewritten17:58
Jucatolots of stuff aren't feature complete yet in 4.0 anyway17:58
thewhitepelicantrue17:59
thewhitepelicanI notice that gimp 2.4.3 came out 4 days ago17:59
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thewhitepelicannot in portage yet17:59
jpatrickthewhitepelican: this is a Kubuntu channel :)18:00
thewhitepelicantrue18:00
thewhitepelicanit is18:00
thewhitepelican:)18:00
applehypnosisno biggy =]18:00
kaloshello everybody18:05
applehypnosissalutations kalos18:05
applehypnosiswhat it is18:06
kalosI'm new user of kubuntu, I'm cam back from opensuse, so, very well this kubuntu...18:06
applehypnosisnice to meet you kalos. you will enjoy it18:06
applehypnosis6 month release schedule, kde4 in the pipes18:07
applehypnosisthis is a high time to be here18:07
kalosah18:07
kalosI've seen kde4, but I prefer 3.518:07
applehypnosisditto.18:07
kalosI think is better18:07
applehypnosisi wonder if kde4 will ever make kde3 like.. obsolete to the point where it's not worth using18:09
applehypnosisor if it will end up being like gallery, with a 2.0 and a 1.6 branch forever18:09
applehypnosis:S18:09
kalosI tryed18:10
kalosthe kde4, with a live cd, but in my small display of my notebook, the18:10
manuel__does anybody know where is the repositorie for download konversation into kubuntu edgy???18:10
kalosit is better kde 3.518:11
jpatrick!info konversation edgy | manuel__18:11
ubotumanuel__: konversation (source: konversation): user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5027 kB, installed size 12988 kB18:11
manuel__oh thanks so much18:11
MaskedOneSo does aanyone here use a browser other than FireFox? I'm looking for something with decent features like tabs but that is quick (unlike FF)18:12
blizzzekre18:12
applehypnosisMaskedOne: konqueror is ok18:13
MaskedOneOk, know of any AdBlock plugin for it?18:14
MaskedOneMain plugin I like with FF18:14
jpatrickMaskedOne: it's in the options18:14
FrekuOpera works good too18:14
draikHas anyone received this error message with BCM43xx...18:15
draikIncomplete code in keymac_write() at /build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.22-2.6.22/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx_main.c:111218:15
NickPrestaMaskedOne, I find Konqueror has all the (basic) feature that Firefox has. It is indeed faster too.18:15
kalosgoodby18:15
DFlameOpera is nice, especially with the built in ad blocker18:16
applehypnosisoh yeah, completely forgot about theme18:16
DFlameyou using ndiswrapper or the restricted drivers draik?18:16
draikDFlame: restricted18:16
DFlameI never got along with them, I would try ndiswrapper18:16
draikI followed the instructions for the restricted driver install18:17
draikHow do I use ndiswrapper?18:17
NickPresta!ndiswrapper | draik18:17
ubotudraik: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs18:17
draikI only see it for AMD6418:18
holai made a ping between tuo machine in the net, it works but telnet or rlog no, why?18:18
MaskedOneah thanks, I'll switch to Konq then18:18
number21pixcan anyone help me with rendering video?18:18
number21pixi cant render more than 10 minutes of video18:19
DFlamedraik, ndiswrapper has pretty thorough instructions here18:19
DFlamehttp://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,installation/18:19
NickPrestadraik, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper18:19
jelnumber21pix: what do you mean, rendering video?  What are you doing?  What's going wrong?18:19
number21pixi am using kdenlive-- but whenever i try to render, the computer crashes halfway through18:20
number21pixthe same happens even on cinelerra18:20
holaping works but not telnet or rsh, sameone can help me18:22
number21pixjel: i have renderd upto 10 min on kdenlive18:22
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flamesageDo you guys know if the KDE4 packages that were in the repos are going to be updated with the SVN?18:25
jelflamesage: don't see why not.  BUT, the kubuntu packages are really bad compared to trunk right now.18:26
JoshOvkiflamesage: thats the department of   #kubunutu-kde418:26
martijn81howto get nvidia working for nexius?18:26
XBehavewill kde support multi pointer x in hardy?18:26
holahow i can enable the port for telnet, rsh etc18:26
zhobbsI'm having issues with video playback and xinerama...video will only play in my primary monitor18:27
raptor_quelqun parle  frenchi?18:27
XBehave!fr18:27
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.18:27
ibouhi18:29
NickPrestahi, ibou18:29
parkinis it possible to invert the colors on the monitor in kde 3.5 as ive seen it been done in kde 4.0?18:34
parkinor do i need compiz etc for that+18:35
NickPrestaparkin, I'm sure you need compiz-fusion for that in KDE 3.5.X18:36
parkinok18:36
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gladieranyone know how to install glade-sharp and dbus-sharp?18:42
JoshOvkiwhats the command to find out what graphics card is installed?18:42
gladierJoshOvki: lspci18:43
JoshOvkithanks18:43
willyhi i am having problems playing mp3s in amarok, and the mp3 file supported download didnt work.. i am new to linux (using kubuntu 6.04)18:46
jelwilly: "problems"?18:47
iboui can't open any file format with soundkonverter...18:47
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lucky_lucashi, I may need help to clear a situation : the coexistency of qt4 and qt3 to compile kde from svn (and compile qt though), and compile other app with packaged qt 418:48
willyyes problemos, what ever, but i am wondering should i use new audio player mayby?18:49
DFlamewilly, have you been through this? - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats18:49
DFlamesame for you ibou18:49
willyno  :S18:49
marius__hello to all18:50
marius__i need help18:50
ballongenwhen can i download the kde4 stable through ubuntu repositarys?18:50
DFlamemarius__, shoot18:51
DFlameballongen, not sure18:51
lucky_lucasballongen: Not sure if the word stable is right.18:51
marius__i can't find information about mac-style for kde18:51
marius__can u help me flame?18:52
marius__can u help me Dflame?18:52
DFlametried looking for what you want on http://www.kde-look.org/ ?18:52
marius__ok18:52
marius__thank u18:52
iboui can't open any file format with soundkonverter although i have all the librarys. The silly thing is that i can open them by using "open with" after selecting them in konqueror...18:55
willythanks for the info Dflame   btw..18:57
mirandaHaving trouble getting a clone of my  desktop on a secondary diisplay (two video caard setup) Do i need xinerama running to get clone desktop enabled?18:59
DFlameno probs willy18:59
DFlameI'm still new myself >.>19:00
justin_when i try to enable the nvidia driver this happens "there was and error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." what did i do wrong19:01
justin_when i try to enable the nvidia driver this happens "there was and error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." what did i do wrong19:02
oretheverytime i use Adept19:03
orethit says "Could not Commit Could break packages"19:03
orethwhat does this mean19:03
parkinis there a command to "lock session" in kde?19:06
DFlameoreth, you might get better luck using synaptic instead of adept19:07
DFlameopen up konsole and "sudo apt-get install synaptic"19:07
mirandaoreth: also try using apt from a terminal, as it is more verbose about errors.19:07
DFlameparkin, lock session is in the KDE menu19:07
DFlameabove log out, under switch user19:07
parkinyeah, i want to make a keyboard shortcut for it19:08
parkinin accessibility19:08
orethwill synaptic work in KDE?19:08
orethwow.. that's a dumb question :()19:08
stdinparkin: it usually defaults to Ctrl-Alt-L19:08
DFlameyeah, I use it myself oreth19:09
justin_it says dpkg is open and active when uits not ubuntu linuxj pisses me off19:09
parkinok thanks :) ill use that^19:09
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justin__wtf is up with apt19:14
iboui can't open any file format with soundkonverter although i have all the librarys. The silly thing is that i can open them by using "open with" after selecting them in konqueror... Does anyone know something about that bug19:14
ibou?19:14
kristjan_ibou: it works here19:15
justin__evertime i try to upgrade install a package or anything with apt it freakin says it cant cuz it might break packages or something if it commits19:16
iboukristjan_: yes i just format end reinstalled and after i had that issue19:16
justin__what is wrong with apt is anyone else having the same problem19:17
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justin__evertime i try to upgrade install a package or anything with apt it freakin says it cant cuz it might break packages or something if it commits19:17
ibouloool19:18
XBehaveoreth: yes it will just require the gtk libraries to load, so may be abit slow on old pcs, but i regularly run synaptic on my desktop19:18
ibouje viens de réessayer19:18
justin__evertime i try to upgrade install a package or anything with apt it freakin says it cant cuz it might break packages or something if it commits19:18
justin__anyone going to help me19:18
DFlamehang on justin__19:18
ScorpKing!grub > me19:18
justin__the exact error is19:19
omega^hi19:19
omega^to all19:19
omega^need help!19:19
DFlamethat'd be useful justin if you could paste it19:20
DFlameomega, whats wrong?19:20
justin__there was a error commiting changes. Possibly  there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.19:20
omega^i've did not find info about mac-style19:20
pagjustin__, pastebin the whole output of 'sudo apt-get install -f'19:21
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justin__justin@justin-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install -f19:23
justin__E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)19:23
justin__E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?19:23
justin__justin@justin-desktop:~$19:23
justin__nothing else is open19:23
justin__i look through the process table too19:23
BluesKaj!paste | justin__19:23
ubotujustin__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:23
pag!aptfix | justin__19:23
ubotujustin__: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »19:23
justin__wait apt-get is open it wont let me kill it19:23
justin__it still wont close19:25
justin__dpkg: status database area is locked by another proces19:25
justin__i h8 apt19:25
justin__with a passion19:25
pagsudo kill -9 PID_of_apt-get19:25
justin__it comes up with its uses and says its a grabage command19:27
pagjustin__, probably because you just copied the command instead of correcting the PID to the right one19:28
BluesKajthe ubotu , command din't work , justin__ ?19:28
justin__PID command did19:29
justin__thanks19:29
justin__i swear tho if this apt BLOWS UP 1 more time ill be just as happy with my fedora or slackware19:29
azlonhow can i uninstall gnome and install kde?19:30
jpatrick!purekde > azlon19:30
justin__download kubuntu19:30
jpatrick!purekde > justin__19:31
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Five_starif I just enabled the restricted drivers19:35
Five_starfor Nvidia19:35
Five_stardo I need to restart the whole computer or can I just restart X?19:35
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jpatrickFive_star: restart so the kernel can get the new modules19:35
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ballongenis KDE4 TESTING in ubuntu repositarys the the final version of KDE4? which u can downlaod from the web19:38
jpatrickballongen: yes19:39
sime_how can i get better aquainted with the terminal19:39
BluesKaj!Konsole19:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konsole - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:40
dhqsime_: learn all the basic commmands19:40
BluesKaj!terminal19:40
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal19:40
Five_starwow. I just realized how much of an improvement has been made to ubuntu in the last four years. I remember spending entire weekends getting restricted drivers working. Now you check a box and restart x. Amazing.19:42
sime_thx ubotu19:43
sime_great advice19:43
JoshOvkisime_ thank BluesKaj,  he told the bot to tell you19:44
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sime_sry thanks blueskay19:44
BluesKajheh, np19:45
sime_how do i get ubuntu working on the ibm thinkpad19:46
sime_everytime i reboot it wont let me start the live cd19:46
sime_i know im doin the right thing bc it worked fine wen i tries to installl it on my comp (hp pavillion)19:47
ScorpKingsime_: you might have to change the boot device priority in the BIOS19:47
tmskeHi, does someone know an easy way to print a ghostscript document in an other color than black? (I'm out of black ink and I need to print something)19:48
ballongensime_: take the alternative cd19:48
ballongensime_: the alternative cd worked for me19:48
sime_scorpking_wat do i change in the bios page19:49
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ScorpKingsime_: does it even try to boot from the cd?19:49
sime_i cant get in to the bios page there a pic of a lock on the upper left corner of the screen19:51
sime_wat does that mean19:51
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makers_markif i install ubuntu on an xp partition,how should the final partition arrangement look > windows;linux,linux swap ?19:52
squid0hi! I use knemo to monitor my network usage. But is there a way to filter what is monitored? ie. I only want to keep track of transfers that are to/from outside my LAN; I don't care about intra-LAN traffic...19:52
ScorpKingsime_: try pressing <F2> or <DEL> to get to the BIOS.19:52
KaOS-bEathji all, I'm trying to enable DVD-playback. I installed libdvdcss2 an libdvdread319:53
sime_scorpking_ok ill try that19:53
KaOS-bEatI made all the nescessary symlinks to my /dev/dvd19:53
BluesKajsome pcs are F1 to get BIOS ay bootup19:53
squid0KaOS-bEat: you need to run a script that comes with the libdvdcss2 package19:53
squid0look on the ubuntu wiki page19:53
ndrehi! what was the command options to keep the program running but hiding its shell?19:53
ScorpKingmakers_mark: i'd make it linux,linux,swap,windows. using the windows MBR on the main partition can be problematic sometimes19:53
KaOS-bEatsquid0: just installing it is not enough?19:54
squid0KaOS-bEat: no19:54
KaOS-bEatok tnx19:54
squid0KaOS-bEat: search for dvd playback on the ubuntu wiki...19:54
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ubuntu_hello19:55
squid0hi19:55
petinaanyone know where there is a list of the best repositories to add?19:55
ubuntu_isnt pacman enough?19:55
jpatrick!source-o-matic > petina19:55
BluesKajactually makers_mark , you were right the firdst time , if windows is already installed.19:55
squid0!source-o-matic > squid019:55
makers_markthanks19:55
sigma_1234!info libdvdcss219:56
ScorpKingndre: bg?19:56
ubotuPackage libdvdcss2 does not exist in gutsy19:56
sime_scorpking_nope i still get the lock sign19:57
sigma_1234what does the libdvdcss package do?19:57
jpatrick!dvd > sigma_123419:57
ndreyes19:57
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sime_are there any hackers here that can tell me how to get around that19:57
ScorpKingndre: not sure what you mean but <ctrl>+<c> and then bg wil put it in the background19:58
das6745!info libdvdcss219:58
ubotuPackage libdvdcss2 does not exist in gutsy19:58
ScorpKingsime_: what is installed on the laptop atm?19:58
emezeta <ctrl>+<z> ScorpKing19:58
sime_wats atm?19:58
ScorpKingat the moment19:59
applehypnosiswhy isn't there any linux-686 in the repository for ubuntu19:59
ScorpKinglol. ty emezeta.19:59
sime_oh windows xp19:59
fignewapplehypnosis: cause it isn't archlinux ;)19:59
petinaanyone know any good repositories to add to kubuntu's add/remove programs?19:59
jpatrickapplehypnosis: linux-386 is all you need19:59
ibouwhat is the difference between mysql and sqlite in amarok?19:59
ScorpKingsime_: there's a program on the kubuntu cd that you can run in windows and it will boot the livecd20:00
fignewpetina: the official ones are enough20:00
jpatrickpetina: you don't need any more :)20:00
petinahaha i think i do :P20:00
fignewI know you dont ;)20:00
jpatrickibou: mysql works better with larger connections20:00
jpatrickcollections*20:00
nuxilibou, sqlite is a mini version of mysql you migh say20:00
justin__how can i make it so that kdevelop starts on line 0 instead of 120:00
sime_scorpking_ok great how do i do that20:00
petinaapparently there's something called sourceomatic that adds some... but it doesn't work? http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/20:00
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emezetaibou sqlite file based db, mysql is engine based db20:01
jimmy51does kubuntu have any apps that will convert a *.flv to an *.avi?20:01
KaOS-bEatjimmy51: mencoder20:01
squid0jimmy51: ffmpeg20:02
squid0... I think20:02
mefisto__does anyone know about the xine-plugin for firefox? I want to disable quicktime support and let mozilla-mplayer handle embedded quicktime in firefox20:02
KaOS-bEatsquid0: th instructions just say to install, not to run a script afterwards20:02
jcklwhats a good music player that has a graphical interface like winamp?20:02
jimmy51KaOS-bEat, squid0:  thanks i'll check those out20:03
ScorpKingsime_: press <tab> to complete nicks in irc. i don't always see when you talk to me and not use my full nick. one sec.20:03
mefisto__jimmy51: try installing kmplayer, which will let you open flv and save in another format with either mencoder or ffmpeg20:04
cn28hanybody find a suitable solution for making tvtime work on Gutsy?20:04
sime_ScorpKing: ok will do20:04
cn28hit seems it usew OSS for sound, and I'm thinking that' the problem20:05
BluesKajcn28h, what graphics and tvtuner cards ?20:05
cn28hBluesKaj, ATI TV Wonder, ATI Radeon 9000 -- video works fine, no sound20:05
ScorpKingsime_: can you look for .exe files on the livecd? my cdrom is broken20:05
jpatrickScorpKing: I believe it's called WinFoss20:06
sime_ScorpKing: how i do that20:06
BluesKajok, you hjave to use the line in on the soundcard from your source , I have the same tvtuner card20:06
ScorpKingjpatrick: that will boot the livecd?20:06
BluesKajcn28h, did you get that ?20:07
jpatrickScorpKing: I don't know, I've never used it (don't even have windows)20:07
ScorpKingjpatrick: haha. same here.20:07
ubuntu_have anyone tried cinelerra?20:08
azlonwhen i remove ubuntu and install kubntu-desktop... what kind of problems can i expect?20:08
jpatrickazlon: none20:08
ScorpKingsime_: hang around. i'm still looking for the program20:08
jpatrickazlon: see apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop20:08
cn28hBluesKaj, yeah -- it's connected correctly as it worked fine in Edgy, and I know it's not muted/turned down in my mixer settings.  In tvtime the volume is stuck at 99-100% (I had this problem in the past when I built a kernel with no OSS support nad tried using the OSS plugin wit xxms)20:08
azlonso its just like a straight-up install of KDE?20:08
jimmy51mefisto__: i've installed kmplayer and see how to play and save, but don't see where i choose the output format...20:08
BluesKajaha , yeash choose alsa instead of OSS20:09
cn28htherein lies the problem -- yo ucan't afacit20:09
cn28hafaict20:09
mefisto__jimmy51: the square red button (bottom of screen) will open up a dialog to encode with mencoder/ffmpeg20:10
jimmy51mefisto__: (and i've already downloaded mencoder and ffmpg)20:10
mefisto__jimmy51: or just go to settings > recording (same dialog)20:10
jimmy51mefisto__: ok... trying.  thanks for the help, fellas20:11
ScorpKingsime_: can you look what files are in the /install directory on the cd?20:12
cn28hBluesKaj, I figured I could fix it by building a kernel iwth OSS compatibility, I guess I'll have to try that next20:12
mefisto__anyone using xine-plugin for firefox?20:12
sime_ScorpKing: yes i can20:12
ScorpKingsime_: see if there's any .exe (programs) files20:13
BluesKajcn28h, why OSS ...alsa is known to work20:13
cn28hBluesKaj, because compiling a kernel with OSS support is easier than rewriting the audio code in tvtime20:14
BluesKajwell, if you must build your kernel , may the gods be with you :)20:14
cn28hmeh, building a kernel is no big deal ;P20:15
cn28hI was just hoping there was a way to make tvtime use alsa20:15
BluesKajthen include alsa support20:15
cn28hif only I had the spare time right now to do that, heheh20:15
BluesKajtvtime does use alsa AFAIK20:15
cn28hwhat?20:16
cn28hhm20:16
mefisto__"building a kernel is no big deal" would make a really macho-looking tatoo20:16
BluesKajthat's why i'm using the line in on my soundcard20:16
cn28hhaha20:18
cn28hBluesKaj, I am using the line in on my sound card, but I can't get any sound to come through it -- arey ou using tvtime?20:18
BluesKajthe ati tvwonder card sound isn't seen20:18
BluesKajyes20:18
cn28hisn't seen?20:18
BluesKajthere are no sound support drivers available for tvwonder on kubuntu from my experience20:19
cn28hwell, I just use a mini to mini cable from the audio out on my card to the line in on my sound card20:21
cn28hwhich worked fine on Edgy20:22
azlonwhen i browse my kubutnu-alternate cd, i see an ubuntu folder... is this correct?20:22
azlonim not sure if i mislabeled a cd or something20:22
cn28hazlon, I don't know but it wouldn't be surprising -- after all, they are the same distro aside from their choice of DEs20:23
azlonwell thats what i thought20:24
BluesKajcn28h, been using tvtime on my setup with alsa since dapper and it's been the same right thru .20:24
azlonbut im trying to install kubuntu-dekstop package from the alternate cd and its not finding it...20:24
MaskedOneSome things are changed to better suite KDE though20:24
MaskedOneThat is why somethings do not work in Ubuntu but do in Kubuntu for some people20:25
cn28hBluesKaj, are you using the stock kernel that comes with Gutsy?20:25
BluesKajyup20:25
cn28hhm20:25
azloncrap... how can i install kubuntu-dekstop from the CD?20:25
azlonthe package...20:26
nuxilyou cant if you dl ubuntu20:26
nuxilyou must dl it from a repo20:26
azloni was in here yesterday and they said i could, i just needed the alternate CD20:27
azloncrap20:27
mefisto__azlon: if its a kubuntu cd, add the cdrom to your sources.list20:27
azlonmefisto__: ok, i did that: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/ gutsy main restricted20:28
azloncrap!20:28
azlonit is the wrong CD, huh?20:28
azloncan somebody check their KDE-alternate cd to see if it says the same thing?20:29
draikOk. I got the drivers loaded. It sees the AP. I have the pw to it. I cannot connect. It fails. What am I doing wrong?20:30
ScorpKingsime_: see anything on the cd?20:30
mefisto__azlon: the kubuntu-desktop deb is in /pool/main/k/kubuntu-meta/   maybe you could try installing it direct from the deb?20:31
azlonhrmm20:31
mefisto__but it's a metapackage, so you'll still need the cdrom in sources.list20:32
azlonperfect20:32
jimmy51fyi, this is working great for my flv to avi conversion need:  http://www.linux.com/articles/5664220:32
azlonok, now how do i install it now that i see it on the CD?20:32
azlonand i have th CD in my sources.list20:32
val0does anyone know of a good source for info regarding the kernel that a person with a limited (not a guru) knowledge can understand? trying to learn more about it but most material that I found was way too detailed and over my head20:33
kat_ack! i plugged in a usb flash drive, and as soon as i did, i lost all my sound... kaffiene was playing an avi, that lost sound... i tried opening firefox and playing a youtube video, and sound is gone there.... rebooted, still no sound!20:34
azlonlol20:35
draikShould I use Network Manager or Wireless Assistant to use my wireless card?20:35
draikFYI: AP is mine20:36
kat_i agree, kinda funny, but would be nice if I could get some help...?20:37
draikkat_: I am not questioning your intelligence, but did you check the volume settings and make sure you're not on mute or volume down to 0%?20:38
kat_draik; trying to find it right now20:38
draikkmix20:38
kat_kaffeine has volume up all the way20:38
draikYou want to check the master control20:39
kat_i know before when i used to have problems with amarok crashing, it would mute the volume... which i sometimes forgot about, but that is resolved20:39
draikALT+SPACE kmix20:39
DFlamekat_, try opening terminal and running "alsamixer"20:40
DFlamecheck your master, master mono and PCM lines20:41
DFlamekeyboard controls, Esc quits20:41
kat_master, master mono, pcm are all near the top20:41
draikDFlame: I followed the instructions. I got ndiswrapper loaded up and all. I can still see my AP, but cannot connect. It keeps failing20:41
DFlameI'm still new, so I'm spent :/20:41
DFlamehullo draik20:42
DFlamenice to see you've made progress20:42
mefisto__"sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart" will restart sound20:42
DFlamewhat are you using to manage your connection?20:42
azlonmefisto__: ok, i did: sudo dpkg -i kubuntu-desktop_1.59_i386.deb20:42
azlonbut it didnt work20:42
azlonit gave me a list of packages it needed in order to install20:42
draikDFlame: I'm switching between Network Manager and Wireless Assistant. Neither seem to connect me20:42
DFlamebear with me a second :)20:43
draikazlon: It will give you that list since you are installed a meta-package20:43
draikDFlame: Sure. :)20:43
mefisto__azlon: did it not find the packages?20:43
azlonit didnt20:43
azlonthe first one was ark... i looked on the cd but couldnt find it20:44
draikazlon: If you're online, why not get it all from the net?20:44
kat_sudo /etc.... didn't seem to work20:44
DFlamealright draik20:44
azlondraik: i have really slow connection... im stuck in kuwait20:44
DFlameI have a wireless here as well and i prefer to use wicd to manage it20:45
DFlamevisit https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=194573&package_id=22946020:45
DFlameyou should be able to download the .deb for it there20:45
draikazlon: :( Have you checked online for the packages?20:45
azlondraik: im sure i can get those from the net... but it will take days20:45
draikI'm surprised ark isn't on the CD20:46
DFlameone thing draik20:46
draikOk20:46
DFlameit removes the default network manager by default, so you might disconnect if you're working on the box you're connecting from20:47
DFlamewhen installed, you can reconnect the wired connection via opening wicd in the KDE menu, under internet20:47
kat_brb, going to command line restart sound, and then reboot20:47
draikDFlame: removes as in uninstalls or as in swaps out primary manager?20:48
azlonf it20:48
azlonill try doing a fresh install from the CD20:48
azlonbrb20:48
DFlamei believe mine uninstalled the default managers20:48
DFlameIt obviously works though ;)20:48
draikHaha. Yup20:49
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mefisto__azlon: /pool/main/k/kdeutils/ark_3.5.8-0ubuntu1_i386.deb20:49
DFlameyou've managed to get lights up on your card and see an AP at least, so it should just be a matter of installing and reconnecting20:49
draik:( It didn't want to install20:49
DFlameerror?20:50
draikwicd conflicts with network-manager20:50
draiknetwork-manager is present and installed20:50
draikRemove it first?20:51
flatsHello I just installed ...honestly, I don't know which version I installed.  I believe 7.10.  My password works for all the configuration settings but when I use su in a terminal and type in the password, it says sorry wrong password.  Any ideas?20:51
draikflats: Did you create a root password?20:51
DFlameis it just that one package conflicting draik?20:51
draikDFlame: Yes20:51
flatsHmmm.  good question.  I can't confirm that but I assume I porbably didn't20:51
flatsCan I do that now?20:52
DFlameif so, open up konsole and sudo apt-get remove network-manager20:52
das6745flats: sudo -s20:52
DFlamethen install the deb20:52
draikDFlame: You got it20:52
das6745then yor pswd20:52
Dragnslcrflats- you don't use su in Ubuntu20:52
DFlameg'luck20:52
Dragnslcr!sudo | flats20:52
ubotuflats: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.20:52
flatsyep now it says root20:52
katwoot all kosher now, sound working... thanks draik, mefisto__20:54
jussi01!supportroot | DFlame20:54
flatsWhy thank you.  1 more and I promise I'll leave.  I downloaded Firefox beta ( I use in windows and like ) I go to root and run ./run-mozilla.sh and get a cannot execute error20:54
ubotuDFlame: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)20:54
draikkat: What was it?20:54
kati am so blogging this (i keep a blog of problems as they arise, and what fixes 'em so i don't lose track of commands i don't use often)20:55
jussi01flats: chmod a+x filename20:55
draikjussi01: You beat me to it20:55
draikDFlame: I do not see it20:55
kati'm guessing alsa just needed a restart, and then a reboot after20:55
draikIt was installed, it was successful, but it's not listed20:55
das6745flats: did you run it from root 1st time?20:55
flatsno.20:55
flatssame thing after chmod20:56
das6745hmm...20:56
draikDFlame: Sorry, found it20:56
das6745there is a few files in ~20:56
flatsthe run-mozilla.sh is -rwxr-xr-x20:56
DFlamehad me worried then draik :P20:56
flatsfor what it's worth20:56
draikIt found my AP...20:57
draikIt's "obtaining an IP"...20:57
draik:( Not Connected20:57
DFlamealright, are you using WPA or WEP or open network?20:57
das6745flats: does it work to type firefox20:57
flatsno, It asks me to apt get it but I'm sure thats only firefox 220:58
draikDFlame: There is a WEP20:58
draikI put it in the Advanced Settings20:58
DFlamebut still no dice huh20:58
draikWEP (Passphrase)20:58
draikNope20:58
draik:(20:58
das6745flats: probably you get src package and should comiple it20:59
DFlameset up your router to auto accept new stations?20:59
flatsdoh, not that linux savy yet20:59
DFlamei had to do that before i could get a connection to my BT homehub20:59
flatsbut I understand.  guess I gotta learn sometime20:59
das6745flats: give me url to download ff beta20:59
jckla wep key is different then a passphrase20:59
jcklusually wep keys are hexadecimal21:00
draikHmmm21:00
draikOk21:00
flatsjust mozilla.com and click on developer link and you will get a link to dl the firefox3 beta221:00
DFlameif you still cant get a connection after that, or theres nowhere to control adding new stations, remove the encrytion and see if you can connect to the network with no encryption in place21:01
wesley_how do you start systemsetting from kde4 in root ?21:02
das6745flats: eng one?21:03
ardchoillewesley_: kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde421:03
flatsyes sir21:03
draikOk21:03
draikWEP off21:03
draikLet's see...21:03
draikNope21:04
draikI'm about 20-30 feet away from the AP21:04
draikStill failed21:04
DFlamewhat's the model of the router?21:04
draikIt's a Verizon DSL21:04
draikDoes the channel matter?21:04
jussi01!enter | draik21:05
ubotudraik: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!21:05
DFlamechannel doesnt matter a lot21:05
jcklchannel could but its usually automatic21:05
draikjussi01: Thanks. Sorry about that21:05
jussi01:)21:05
draikI have it on CH6. Should it be CH 11?21:05
parkinis it possible to zoom in the presentation mode in KPDF ?21:06
DFlameunless there;s other APs around, theres no real reason to have to change your channel21:06
jckl11 will help with interference issues but probably not needed21:06
das6745flats: that sux21:07
flatswhat?21:07
draikDFlame: Nope. There are only 2 other APs. Both are CH1121:09
jcklare you typing in the ssid?21:10
DFlameI'm pretty spent on this one, but I'm pretty sure it's a setting on your router someplace21:10
DFlamebeing as the card seems to be working perfectly21:10
jcklIf not, an ssid is case-sensative.21:11
DFlamethe SSID isn't hidden as far as i can tell21:11
draikDFlame: Yeah. I never had this issue with my $CABLE. Verizon DSL can suck on mud for all I care.21:12
DFlameand theres a connection going on, but the router is refusing to deal out an IP address to the box21:12
draikjckl: It's lowercase and that is how I enter it.21:12
jcklwhat kind of router21:12
jcklor ap21:12
das6745flats: ./run-mozilla.sh should run other executable21:12
draikVerizon POS. Hold on let me find out...21:12
flatsyep not werkin on mine21:13
draikVerizon GT704WG21:14
jcklhmm an actiontec21:15
jcklthose are garbage in my opinion21:15
LogicalDashKubuntu still defaults to opening folders in Konqueror, how do I set it up to always open them in Dolphin instead?21:15
_Angelus_i want a kubuntu banner for my website to link to kubuntu,org , cab someone please tell me where i can get one?21:15
niall_how do I configure audio CD ripping in K3B?21:16
LogicalDashniall_, what exactly is it that you want to configure?21:16
niall_what encoding it's going to use, where it's going to put the files, what it's going to call them21:16
niall_all that jazz21:16
LogicalDashoh, you get a dialog for that after you insert a CD and click Start Ripping21:17
niall_ha ;D I hadn't started because I wanted to make sure it was right first :x21:17
LogicalDashenjoy21:17
_Angelus_i want a kubuntu picture/banner for my website to link to kubuntu,org , cab someone please tell me where i can get one?21:18
LogicalDash_Angelus_, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuArtwork21:19
_Angelus_thankz21:19
_Angelus_which is the best type, svg or png?21:21
LogicalDashsvg is more scalable but I don't think it's good to actually use it on a webpage21:21
jussi01_Angelus_: depends what you are doing...21:21
LogicalDashyou could download the svg, scale it to the size you want, then export to png21:21
_Angelus_oh21:22
_Angelus_i see21:22
_Angelus_so svg doesnt loose quality when you resize it?21:22
jussi01thats correct21:22
jussi01svg = scalable vector graphic21:22
_Angelus_oh21:22
_Angelus_i see21:22
_Angelus_thanks xD21:22
LogicalDashOK guys, I like to use the Universal Sidebar to quickly access various places in my filesystem, but it's opening everything in Konqueror. How do I set it to open in Dolphin instead?21:23
brentphi, i have a kubuntu-only machine, it's been working fine. now when i boot, i get a grub 17 error. now, i boot from cd and fdisk -l shows that /dev/sda1 is the boot  but its of type  W95 FAT32 (LBA)21:23
brentphow can i get back my real boot?21:24
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justin__how do i get americas army to work on kubuntu21:24
aleksanteriwhat is america's army?21:25
LogicalDashit's a game, I think it's for Windows21:25
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justin__game made by US government21:25
LogicalDashjustin__, go ask the folks at #wine21:25
draikjckl: Verizon GT704WG. It's both modem and wifi router21:25
* aleksanteri was just about to suggest wine21:25
justin__no thie linux version21:25
aleksanterioh, it supports linux?21:25
jckldraik: right21:26
justin__a older version21:26
justin__that mac users and linux users play21:26
aleksanteriright21:26
LogicalDashjustin__, if they offer a debian package try installing that, otherwise they probably have instructions inside the tarball21:26
jckldraik: do you have any other wireless computers?21:26
justin__its not possible to play online cuz of punkbuster21:26
justin__its a .run file21:26
justin__i have it installed21:26
brentphere's my fdisk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52831/21:26
LogicalDashI have no idea what a .run file is21:26
justin__but when i go to the executable it wont work21:27
draikjckl: Just my sister's. Per our treaty, we don't touch each other's computers. She's running winxp and is able to access the AP21:27
jckljustin__: i take it wine and punkbuster dont work together?21:27
justin__no not very well21:27
justin__lol21:27
jcklif hers works then i would assume its more an issue with the laptop21:27
jcklor computer i should say21:28
justin__it does a lil with the battlefield series21:28
justin__cedega has "partial" support for PB i have cedega they dont support AA tho21:28
draikOh well.21:28
jckljustin__: cool thanks for the info. This is the only reason i still have windows on my desktop21:28
jckldraik: you said you turned the encryption off right?21:29
justin__? i would keep it if i where you21:29
draikjckl: Yup. Still wouldn't connect21:29
justin__my HD is only 80 gigs21:29
justin__so i have only 1 OS at a time i will get windows once i get my sata RAID going21:29
jcklmy laptop is 80gigs but my desktop is 500gigs21:29
justin__lucky21:29
justin__im poor21:29
jckli use to be. now i work 12 hours a day to buy me toys21:30
justin__my computer can play COD4 at full grafix no prob but i was to cheap to buy a bigger HD21:30
paolohi. is there a software with a whiteboard, like netmeeting for windows?21:30
draikLucky. I asked, "Will you marry" and I had to put away my toys21:30
draik*asked, "Will you marry me?"21:30
Tm_T!ot21:31
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!21:31
justin__ahahaha21:31
Tm_T;)21:31
jcklthat i stayed away from as of now ;)21:31
justin__rofl will you marry me21:31
jpatrick!ot > justin__21:32
justin__i have made like 734563563 notes to self never to have kids21:32
jckldraik: does the wireless work with any other router or have you not tried it21:32
brentpanyone have any pointers? my boot partition seems to be taken over by windows? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52831/21:32
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draikjckl: There are two other APs. Both of which are channel 11. One is Linsys with WEP (which I assume to be admin/pw) and an open AP with "Mars and the Moon" for the name. Cannot connect to either.21:33
jckldo you recieve any ip address at all? at the least you should get a 169.25421:35
nevilleLet me know if I sound stupid, but, is it at all possible to have two consecutive video drivers, for the same card, installed at the same time, and you can choose which you prefer to use, say, at boot?21:35
draikI do get 169.254....21:35
jcklwhat manager are you using?21:37
^gtt^neville: that's the point of the restricted drivers manager...21:37
draikjckl: network-manager21:37
draikwicd wasn't working for me21:38
draikI keep switching between network-manager to Wireless Assistant21:38
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nevilleNot from what I can see?21:39
nevilleIt only allows me to disable the current driver, which isn't what I want21:39
jcklhave you tried from a terminal?21:41
draikjckl: Tried what? I'm not too familiar with the CLI when it comes to networking21:41
CppIsWeirdi sent a bunch of stuff to my trash to free up some space, however it is neither in my trash nor where it was. It says i have 1mb of freespace when i deleted about 500mb of stuff, anyone have any ideas?21:41
jcklopen a terminal and type "iwconfig"21:42
SSJ_GZCppIsWeird: How did you delete it?21:42
CppIsWeirdthe del key21:42
SSJ_GZCppIsWeird: From within Konqueror?21:42
CppIsWeirddont know21:42
CppIsWeirdasked me if i wanted to send it to the trsh21:43
CppIsWeirdi clicked ok21:43
jckldraik: what do you see for ESSID?21:43
draikI see 2... Linksys and sandra21:43
SSJ_GZCppIsWeird: And it doesn't appear when you enter trash:/ as the URL in Konqueror?21:43
CppIsWeirdnor does it apper ~/.trash21:44
draikbrb21:44
SSJ_GZCppIsWeird: What about ~/.local/share/Trash/files?21:44
hdevalenceWill 8.04 use 3.5.8 or 3.5.9 ?21:44
CppIsWeirdyep21:45
CppIsWeirdwhere is that and why were they sent there?21:45
SSJ_GZCppIsWeird: That's where KDE's trash folder for your user is.21:46
draikok, back21:46
CppIsWeirdhow gay21:46
pesymistatake it easy21:46
jckldraik: what is your ssid21:47
draiksandra21:47
jcklfor your router21:47
jckltry21:47
Tm_T!guidelines | CppIsWeird21:47
ubotuCppIsWeird: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines21:47
jcklsudo iwconfig interface essid sandra21:47
WaltzingAlongCppIsWeird: what was the issue?21:48
WaltzingAlongCppIsWeird: should you wish to store the files elsewhere, feel free to hack at the code21:48
jckldraik: maybe "sudo iwconfig essid sandra"21:48
draikOk21:48
draikiwconfig: unknown command "sandra"21:49
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justin__how do i get kdevelop to start on line 0 instead of 121:49
justin__because i wont let me go to line 0 i get a lot of compile error21:50
justin__s21:50
dappermuisim using xrandr and when I enter xrandr --addmode S-video 800x600 I get the error "xrandr: cannot find output "S-video"" - any ideas?21:51
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WaltzingAlongsudo iwconfig DEVice (eth1) essid sandra21:51
WaltzingAlongie sudo iwconfig eth1 essid sandra enc off mode managed21:52
justin__OSS sound will not work21:52
justin__how do i get it to work21:52
justin__ALSA will work but no OSS21:52
draikOk. I will try that WaltzingAlong21:52
jcklafter that make sure encryption is turned off in the router21:53
jcklWaltzingAlong: does he need to type dhclient eth121:54
WaltzingAlongsure follow it with dhclient eth1       to fetch a new ip21:54
WaltzingAlongbut iwconfig        by itself to verify the settings, essid should show sandra and quality should be something suchas 83/10021:54
draikNo DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.21:56
draikiwconfig states 0/10021:56
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draikessid is "sandra"21:57
jckland encryption in the router is off21:57
draik10-421:57
draikEverything done to your specifications21:58
jcklwhen you type iwconfig what does it say for link quality21:59
draik0/10021:59
jcklcan you move closer to the router?21:59
draikSure21:59
draikHow much closer?21:59
draikI'm about 20 feet away21:59
draikdirect eye-sight21:59
jcklwhat is signal level and noise level22:00
draikNothing in the way22:00
draik-256 dBm each22:00
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jckli would try to move as close as possible or try to restart both the router and the computer22:01
WaltzingAlongsudo iwlist eth122:01
WaltzingAlongsudo iwlist eth1 scanning22:01
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draikOk. What do you need?22:02
tlayton!search file DBCFile.h22:02
ubotuFound: files, defrag, tab, tar, offline, mldonkey, burners, dolphin, chmod, cvs22:02
jcklwhat does it show for quality and signal level22:03
jckland noise level22:03
tlayton!search DBCFile.h22:03
ubotuFound:22:03
tlayton!file DBCFile.h22:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about file dbcfile.h - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:03
draikQuality: 99/100   Signal: -35 dBm    Noise: -60 dBm22:03
jussi01!find DBCFile.h22:04
jcklwhat is it for encryption key22:04
ubotuPackage/file dbcfile.h does not exist in gutsy22:04
draikencryption key: off22:04
jcklessid is sandra?22:04
draikYes22:04
jcklhm22:04
jckltry to set a manual ip address22:05
draiksudo iwconfig 192.168.x.x?22:05
jcklno22:05
jcklone sec22:05
draiksudo iwconfig eth1 192.168.x.x?22:06
jcklsudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.x.x netmask 255.255.255.022:06
jcklthen sudo ifconfig eth1 down22:07
jcklthen sudo ifconfig eth1 up22:07
azlonanybody use firefox 3.0 with kubuntu?22:07
draikok22:07
jcklnow does the wireless work?22:08
draikWill find out in just a sec22:08
draikNope. Google.com was not found22:09
draikUmmm... Seems that I'm missing a gateway IP22:09
jckltype iwconfig22:09
jcklneed the router ip as your gateway22:10
draikRight22:10
draikHow do I put that in?22:10
jcklsudo route add default gw 192.168.x.x22:10
draikok22:11
jcklalso do22:11
jcklor well try that22:11
jcklmight need to also do sudo echo nameserver 192.168.x.x >> /etc/resolve.conf22:12
jcklalso when you type iwconfig what is the mode22:12
draikWhat is 192.168.x.x? gateway or my ip?22:13
jcklgateway22:13
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draikPermission denied22:13
draikMode: Managed22:13
draikOk. Done.22:14
jcklyou use "sudo echo nameserver 192.168.x.x >> /etc/resolve.conf"22:14
draikMissed the sudo. Sorry22:14
jcklshould probably do "sudo ifconfig eth1 down"22:14
jckland "sudo ifconfig eth1 up"22:14
draikOk22:15
jcklnow try22:15
draikNope. :(22:15
jcklcan you ping the gateway?22:16
draikNope. Destination Host Unreachable22:18
azlonanybody here use skype 2.0?22:19
jcklnot to sure. seems like the wireless connection will not connect but can see the router. i would try to restart both the router the comp if you have not yet22:19
draikOk22:19
draikWill do.22:19
draikThank you for your help, jckl22:19
jcklnp and good luck22:19
azlonwhere does Konquerer download to by default?22:28
nosrednaekimazlon: you mean before or after its installed?22:29
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lupulhi. does anyone know a way to reduce the cooler speed on my nvidia graphic card? cause it's driving me crazy22:57
biovorethrow a resister in line on the fan power....22:57
lupul?22:58
biovoreI don't think there is software control of the fan speed22:58
lupulok22:58
lucky_lucaslupul: nvclock22:59
lucky_lucasyou want to search somehting about nvclock22:59
lupulok22:59
lupulthanks22:59
lupulvery much22:59
lucky_lucasI have seen that it's a common problem with the last driver23:00
lucky_lucasand the last version of nvclock could fix this23:00
lucky_lucasyou may look on phoronix forums23:00
lucky_lucasI didn't pay that much attention because I don't have the problem but, I am prety sure to heard of nvclock to solve this23:01
lupulit doesn't23:01
Sannelupul: I have this to adjust the speed of my CPU fan, dunno if it works for GPU fans as well: http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=70&code=017. Least noisy would be, though, a case with a good airflow and a passiv graphics card.23:01
lupul8800gt23:01
lucky_lucaseven the last version, 0.3 ?23:02
lucky_lucasif there is a new version23:02
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lupuli just installed nvclock23:03
lupuland it says that my video card does not support fan speed adjustment23:03
lucky_lucasyou may want to check the version23:03
Darkrift411I know this is the wrong place to ask, but i cant think of anywhere else. I have a compaq laptop that i put kubuntu on and my wifi died. i have to send it in tomarrow for warranty, and i cannot find my restore dvd, and i removed the restore partition. does anyone know where i can find compaq restore cd's/dvd's at?23:04
lucky_lucaslupul http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7237&highlight=nvclock23:04
lucky_lucasI told you to look at phoronix, it's one of the best knowledge base for linux graphics23:05
nubeehi23:05
cn28hDarkrift411, why do you need the restore dvd?23:05
Darkrift411because im afraid they will use linux on here as an excuse not to fix it23:05
Darkrift411guys on the phone seemed dumbfounded when i mentioned linux23:06
Darkrift411i want it to be in factory condition23:06
nubeei am on a dell insperon 1501 what is the best kubuntu or ubuntu?23:06
Darkrift411he already tried saying that linux is not covered by the warranty, and the only reason he helped me is because i still had windows on here.23:06
biovorekubuntu ubuntu and xubuntu are all the thing basicly..  just install a different gui program by default..23:07
biovoreDarkrift411: what dose there factory warnnity say..23:07
Darkrift411not sure23:08
Darkrift411i cant find my copy23:08
nubeeok so any linux that would run the best on his?23:08
Darkrift411nubee they are just different looks23:08
lucky_lucaslupul: ?23:08
nubeedark what you running?23:08
Darkrift411kubuntu23:08
Darkrift411i like kde more23:08
Darkrift411never was a gnome fan23:08
nubeewhat brand of computer?23:09
Darkrift411compaq23:09
Darkrift411laptop23:09
nubeeok they say that if you change your windows "vista ,xp etc."it voids your waranty23:10
Darkrift411?23:10
biovorenubee: kubuntu and ubuntu will both work on it..  you might need to tweek the command line for it to work though.. Needs acpi=force irqpoll   because the bios has a bug in it.23:10
nubeeany os changes voids the worenty23:10
Darkrift411i didnt change the os23:11
Darkrift411i added another one23:11
nubeeya i am running ubuntu with forced drivers23:11
cn28hstrange, in gutsy I have gcc installed but all the C headers are missing23:11
nubeeya i have four23:11
nubeevista/ubuntu/puppy/and fedora23:12
nubeefedora sucks23:12
nubeepuppy is good for my kids23:13
Sannecn28h: install build-essential23:13
cn28hyeah, just found that -- strange that that's off by default23:13
lupullucky_lucas thank you so much....   i can finally sleep now thanks to nvclock23:13
FaiDillinGeri love kubuntu23:13
lupulyou were right. v3 works23:13
lupuli love kubuntu too23:13
lucky_lucaslupul: hehe you welcome23:14
nubeeanyone know how i can get my gdesklets to work ?23:14
lucky_lucasnever underestimate the power of bleeding edge over packaged hihihihi23:14
lupul:))23:14
lucky_lucassleep well23:14
lupulthanks23:14
lupulsame for you23:14
lupulbye23:14
Sannecn28h: I heard it's a design decision for Ubuntu... lots of people won't need the gcc and dev headers, and those who do, can easily install them.23:14
lucky_lucasthank you23:15
lucky_lucasbye bye23:15
nubeeanyone know how i can get my gdesklets to work ?23:15
ardchoille!patience | nubee23:15
ubotunubee: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines23:15
Lynourenubee: gdesklets? in KDE?23:16
Lynourenubee: Do you know if it generally can be done? / if someone has done it before?23:16
nubeeno23:17
Lynourenubee: KDE has something similar, called SuperKaramba23:17
nubeeits got me scratching my head23:17
nubeecan i use kubuntu pacs on ubuntu?23:18
Lynourenubee: Better ask the project channel, if it has one.23:18
Lynoureoh "currently works on most of the modern Unix desktops (including GNOME, KDE, Xfce)."23:18
nubeeok i will try that23:19
azlonhow can i use firefox on KDE?23:19
nubeei think that it wont work cus of the forced ati driver23:19
Lynourenubee: I'll be sleeping any moment now, but if you tell someone how they do not work, what errors you get and what you have tried, maybe they can help23:19
azloni downloaded the tar, but im not sure what to do with it now23:19
nubeeit dosnt give any errors23:20
Dragnslcrazlon- is there some reason you can't just use the normal package from the repository?23:20
azlonhrmm23:20
nubeeok i click on it it shows the window blank then turn back off23:21
azlongood call23:21
azlonthx23:21
azlon!divx23:25
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:25
sunny_Wie kann ich Java installieren23:29
Lynoure!java23:29
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.23:29
Lynouresunny_: I hope it will helps.23:30
sunny_Zeitüberschreitung auf dem Server23:31
NickPresta!de | sunny_23:31
ubotusunny_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de23:31
sunny_danke23:31
wonderboyhello?23:32
sunny_hallo23:32
wonderboyhow are you?23:32
cn28hSanne, yeah, I see that but the odd thing was that gcc *was* installed.. just no headers23:34
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Sannecn28h: That's indeed a bit weird.23:37
azlonim trying to play an xvid video... but it is like its fastforwarding...23:37
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Dr_willisazlon,  video online? got a link?23:41
azlonno23:41
azlonvideo on my hd23:42
cn28hwhat are you using to play it?23:42
azlonuhmm23:43
azlonKeffeine23:43
mint2is bad for health23:43
azlonim trying to stay away from VLC23:43
cn28htry mplayer23:43
azlonwhat would you suggest for a player?23:43
azlonmplayer... k, brb23:43
yao_ziyuanjust installed ubuntu23:44
yao_ziyuanawesome...23:44
mint2yao_ziyuan - it is yeah23:44
yao_ziyuanwill go to install kubuntu-desktop as well23:44
mint2which one did u install23:44
mint2i do prefer kde over gnome though23:44
yao_ziyuanthis way the chinese input tool will be automatically available to my kde desktop23:44
yao_ziyuanmint2: ubuntu 7.1023:45
mint2cool23:45
yao_ziyuanmint2: i like kde too23:45
yao_ziyuanmint2: but it doesn't come with chinese input and display very well23:45
mint2then kubuntu gutsy gibbons23:45
mint2is the right one23:45
yao_ziyuanmint2: frankly it sucks in that aspect23:45
mint2i can understand yeah23:45
azlonsame thing with mplayer23:46
azloni think its a codec issue23:46
azlonbut i dont know what codec pack to download23:46
lovelyanyone want to help trouble shoot an "odd" thing?   my camera usb stopped working a few months ago, been trying to get udev to recognize it for a while to no avail, and now my usb hard drive is lost as well.23:46
yao_ziyuanthe masses still prefer dirty yellow gnome ubuntu haha23:46
mantanguys23:46
cn28hlovely, what comes up in dmesg when you plug them in?23:46
mantanhow do i get second monitor working?23:47
yao_ziyuanit would be perfect if there is a gnome theme resembling kde23:47
lovelyI have no idea... whats the site for code listing?23:48
holahow is possible to enable a connection between two machine with telnet or rsh?23:48
lovelycn28h: what is the site for listing such things?23:48
cn28hlovely, http://rafb.net/paste would do23:49
cn28hhola, you'd have to enable telnetd, but why not use ssh?23:49
yao_ziyuanalso,23:51
yao_ziyuanthat 3d chess in gnome is nice...23:51
Dr_willisYou have to enable ssh also. :)23:52
lovelycn28h: ok, i have just dmesg and got a loooong list here is about half http://rafb.net/p/6Vd1xa79.html23:52
azlonwhere can i download divx/xvid codecs?23:52
NickPresta!codecs | azlon23:52
ubotuazlon: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:52
azlonyes, i read those pages23:52
azlonthey didnt help much23:53
cn28hlovely, that doesn't look  related to your problem.  Unplug the device, plug it in again, and check what shows up at the end of dmesg23:53
yao_ziyuanquestion:23:53
yao_ziyuanif i install kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu,23:53
yao_ziyuanwill i see ubuntu-desktop applications in a kde session's start menu?23:54
yao_ziyuanand run them23:54
g2g591yao_ziyuan: most likely23:54
lovelycn28h:   http://rafb.net/p/bD3R7o93.html23:54
g2g591yao_ziyuan: thats how i initally installed kubuntu, but i cant remember for sure23:54
g2g591yao_ziyuan: you can at least run them in the run dialog23:54
yao_ziyuanand maybe i want to install a fresh kde4...23:55
yao_ziyuanis there a kde4-desktop or something23:55
cn28hlovely, okay, it found it -- is this a mybook by chance?23:55
g2g591yao_ziyuan: nope, there will be for hardy though, and 4.0.0 is buggy and no where near as good as 3.5 , to install 4.0 anyway see the directions in the annuncement at kubuntu.org23:56
lovelycn28h: not that I am aware of.. western digital, has worked on this os for 2 years now23:56
yao_ziyuanyes, i now recall kde4 doesn't have chinese support23:56
cn28hlovely, just cursious, I have a WD MyBook and it kind of pisses me off :) anyways -- what does fdisk -l /dev/sdb (might have to do this as root) show?23:56
lovelycn28h: http://rafb.net/p/y0oQ0a39.html23:58
cn28hlovely, sounds about right, can you mount it manually?23:58
yao_ziyuandownloading kubuntu-desktop23:59
yao_ziyuan199MB23:59
lovelycn28h: ahh shit, what is that mount sdb1 in my case? I am fairly new at the direct aproch, been using GUI's primarily23:59

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