=== Zdra_ is now known as Zdra [00:31] Is anyone else having trouble booting without acpi=off after a recent update? [03:58] cl [03:58] Grr, sorry again. [04:32] Where can I find the NetworkManager people? I'm trying to understand how to change network without resorting to a GUI. [04:33] #networkmanager appears to be empty. [04:52] twb: /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian may be helpful, but there doesn't seem to be much documentation, and this isn't the right forum, even if the other is empty. You may have luck in #ubuntu, although it tends to be difficult on the weekends. [04:53] Thanks, I already tried both. [04:53] I'm pestering #debian now since I know they have NM, too. [04:53] s/have/hate/ [05:05] <\sh> twb, you should deal with dbus [05:05] <\sh> twb, check /etc/dbus-1/even.d/*NetworkManager* [05:06] Yeah, but I've no idea how to forge messages on- hmm, looking... [05:06] <\sh> twb, learn dbus messaging ;) [05:06] I'd rather not if I could avoid it :-) [05:07] * \sh goes to bed now [05:08] I only have /etc/dbus-1/system.d/NetworkManager.conf [05:08] <\sh> twb, dbus-1/event.d/ there are two daemons started.. [05:09] <\sh> twb, tab-complete against dbus- and check google for more dbus and hal knowledge === \sh is now known as \sh_away [05:10] Well, thanks === fabbione_ is now known as thegodfather === Faed is now known as Fade === \sh_away is now known as \sh [09:31] * Hobbsee waves [09:32] iz Hobbsee [09:32] * ion_ pulses [09:33] it iz! [09:33] * Hobbsee stomps on Mithrandir's feet, before he levitates [09:34] Hobbsee: they're on top of my server, and you're not tall enough to stomp on top of that, so. :-P [09:35] * Hobbsee can climb! :P [09:35] pft [09:35] * Mithrandir tickles Hobbsee [09:35] * Hobbsee bashes Mithrandir up [09:37] Hey, kids, be nice to each other... [09:37] * Hobbsee bashes torkel up too [09:39] Hobbsee: go away from the computer now, and don't come back until you can behave... [09:39] hah [12:40] :) [12:40] Hi. I'm writing my own implementation of a command line file copy program, and I'm faced with the problem that the number of characters in a file should be set by the user in the third argument, but setting i = argv[3] doesn't really work. http://theunixgeek.pastebin.com/m26b0e8d6 [12:41] theunixgeek, this is not a programming help channel [12:41] ok. === bigon` is now known as bigon === cprov is now known as cprov-afk === bigon is now known as bigon` === pricechild is now known as PriceChild === Ubulette_ is now known as Ubulette === stdin_ is now known as stdin [17:36] http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2207369/microsoft-patents-employee === bigon` is now known as bigon === bigon is now known as bigon` [18:53] Hello! I want to know if bug #184603 can be a valid reason to ask the Stable Release Update for grep in gutsy [18:53] Launchpad bug 184603 in grep "grep -o wrong output" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184603 [19:24] hey guys - im packaging something up and get this message "dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: control file must have at least one binary package part" along with "dpkg-buildpackage: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting." [19:25] gladier: -> #ubuntu-motu [19:30] andrea-bs: probably a whole lot of care would have to be taken there; grep is an Essential package [19:31] thank you Chipzz, what should I do with the bug? [19:32] andrea-bs: I'm not an ubuntu developer, but... : if an updated grep would be broken, all hell would break loose; I would guess the -o option is not *that* important, and the chances of breaking other stuff may outweigh it [19:32] but you should probably ask a real developer ;) [19:33] ok, thanks anyhow [19:33] (otoh, the version in hardy isn't broken so chances of stuff breaking are smaller I guess) [19:43] anyone use a bluetooth keyboard ? === macd_ is now known as macd === Pricey is now known as PriceChild