/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/01/20/#xubuntu.txt

tarvidcan I rig auto play for DVDs?01:21
tarvidinstalled ivman01:32
tarvidbut hardly know what to do next01:33
tarvidi can play dvds manually01:35
tarvidwant to put his in a media room where people can drop in dvds and go grab some popcorn01:36
somerville32tarvid, hi01:36
tarvidho somerville3201:36
somerville32tarvid, Do you have Thunar volume manager enabled?01:37
tarvidi have the application and just brought it up01:37
tarvidthe dvd is mounted as a file system01:37
somerville32tarvid, Applications > Settings > Settings Manager. Click on File Manager01:38
somerville32On the advanced tab, is "Enable volume management" checked off?01:38
tarvidxfce settings manager, looking for an advanced tab01:39
tarvidunder file manager preferences?01:39
tarvidenable volume management is checked01:40
somerville32And if you click configure and then the multimedia tab01:40
somerville32Is it configured to launch gxine when you insert a dvd?01:40
tarvidtotem dvd:/01:42
tarvidgxine wants /dev/dvd01:43
tarvidthis box was installed with a cdrom01:43
tarvidthen the cdrom was replaced with a dvd rom01:44
tarvidthe a symbolic link was added /dev/cdrom -> /dev/dvd01:44
somerville32It should be: gxine -S dvd:/01:46
tarvidi can manually play the dvd from Movie Player which is totem (I think)01:46
tarvidI'll try that but gxine does not play dvds01:46
somerville32I suggest you install xubuntu-restricted-extras01:47
tarvidcompleted01:49
somerville32Hopefully it'll work for you now01:49
tarvidjust reinserted01:50
tarvidgxine doesn't work manually01:50
somerville32Does it work automatically though? haha01:50
tarvidtotem works manually but doesn't autoplay with totem dvd:/01:51
tarvidthere is no /dev/dvd01:51
somerville32right01:52
tarvidtotem will take /dev/cdrom01:53
tarvidbut gxine won't01:54
tarvid08:53:14 PM: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [dvd:/]01:54
tarvidbut01:54
tarvid08:53:14 PM: xine: found input plugin  : DVD Navigator01:55
somerville32weird01:56
tarvidinstalling vlc01:57
tarvidkind of messy, a little more shouldn't hurt too much01:57
tarvidbet there is somewhere I can tell xine to look at /dev/cdrom instead of /dev/dvd01:57
tarvidthe lack of /dev/dvd must be in udev somewhere01:59
tarvidso much to learn01:59
tarvidbut xubuntu seems lighter than ubuntu02:00
tarvidinstalled dsl on a 500 Mhx p III with 128 tonight and it seemed fast enough02:01
tarvidthis is an 1100 Athlon with 25602:01
tarvidnot bad in xubuntu02:01
tarvidvlc works manually02:02
somerville32You can just change the command02:02
somerville32You can set it to anything you like02:03
tarvidi'll try anything twice, three times maybe02:03
tarvidi get a mount instead of running the application, is there some place to turn of automount but only for dvd media02:10
somerville32Yea, same place02:12
tarvidshould I expect a manual command to work when plugged into configure, multi media, video cds?02:19
somerville32yup02:19
tarvidthen is a bug report appropriate?02:20
somerville32tarvid, sure02:21
tarvidlooking for the bug tracker for xubuntu in launchpad, not the right place apparently02:29
somerville32You can file it against the xubuntu-desktop package for now02:30
tarvid_dhcp reset dropped connection02:44
tarvid_another bug?02:44
somerville32I don't think so02:45
tarvid_did see the nm-applet doing its thing02:47
tarvid_networking is back02:47
tarvid_i saw the applet with the little red x then the rotating arrows once02:47
tarvid_another time it just came back on its own02:48
tarvid_this box is an orphan02:48
tarvid_windows 2000 broke (constant reboots) and it wasn't worth fixing the Windows install02:48
tarvid_a little wimpy for regular ubuntu so I installed xubuntu02:49
tarvid_is that a wise choice02:49
somerville32Xubuntu is faster02:49
tarvid_that is probably true even for a decent box02:50
somerville32Yup02:51
tarvid_fspot a reasonable alternative to gthumb02:51
tarvid_?02:51
somerville32It'll bring in a bunch of gnome dependencies02:52
somerville32and mono02:52
tarvid_need a simple resizer converter02:52
tarvid_maybe crop02:52
tarvid_gimp is heavy for my usual needs02:53
tarvid_although the svg import has been handy02:53
tarvid_thank you much for the help, it did get me around a bit, i'm learning02:57
sancasSomeone believes that this is true??04:28
sancashttp://www.abadiadigital.com/noticia2615.html04:28
grahamperrinsancas: I can't comment on the Compiz Fusion aspect but I have had Ubuntu and Kubuntu alterate desktops installed to first and second generation iMacs. Only recently discovered Xubuntu04:32
sancasAaaaaa this well grahamperrin thanks for your opinion04:34
dave__i am seeking some help with my dell inspiron 1100 im trying to set the graphics on 1024x768 but im getting mixed responses05:58
dave__from forums and people05:58
mikubuntuheeeelllllp :)  bought 10 old dell towers at county auction today.  trying to install xub on the first one, and getting hung up installing grub, and also lilo.  get the message could not install grub to /target/... any ideas?  info card says i have 512 ram, pent II 350, installing to 10 gb hard drive.06:25
scizzo-mikubuntu: it can't write to the partition or something?06:29
ere4siI'd check the bios for any protection measures - and try with a partition for /boot06:29
mikubuntuscizzo-: i don't know what ezackly.  was loading for the longest time, base system, software, etc, then when i got to grub install failed.  tried over and over, then tried lilo, and same failure.  on lilo it said error message '1'06:32
mikubuntuere4si: on lilo it offers to install to a 'new ubuntu partition' but that fails as well.  what kind of protection measures would there be in the bios?  me not too smart :(06:33
mikubuntuon the installation menu there is an option to 'execute a shell' does that mean pull up a terminal?  if so, is there anything i could do through a terminal?06:34
ere4sisometimes there are options to protect the mbr etc - a read through the bios options will surely show if any exist06:35
mikubuntui hate to abort the install, i took /a really long time/06:35
mikubuntuso i would have to abort to do that i guess06:36
ere4sishell = terminal  - try "find grub"06:36
dave__im trying to back up my xorg.conf whats the command to copy files? wc? or something06:36
ere4sicp for copy06:36
dave__thanks long night of drinking06:37
mikubuntulemme try06:37
mikubuntubrb06:37
ere4sie.g  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.confbackup06:37
ere4sik06:38
dave__yep got it thanks06:38
dave__trying to fix these gamn graphics06:38
dave__brb wish me luck06:40
mikubuntuere4si: ok, terminal 'find grub' output = no such file or directory ... is it possible to make the file or directory with the shell and then retry grub or lilo install?06:40
ere4simikubuntu: the install should put grub where it has to go - did you try something different or did it go wrong by itself?06:46
ere4si!dualboot06:46
ubotuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot06:46
mikubuntuere4si: no, it just went wrong.  i'm not smart enough to deviate06:50
mikubuntuwithout /close/ supervision06:50
ere4simikubuntu: seems like there might be a protection in the bios for the mbr (maybe) - from here the only suggestion I can give is to look there06:53
bboxetere4si: i just installed xubuntu on my dell inspiron 1100 laptop and i have been trying to set it to display the 1024x768 resoultion.06:57
mikubuntuhmmmmm.... oh, well, thanks for your help.  trying to google the prob, but not really getting any good hit yet06:57
bboxetive googled for information on how to fix it. ive done all the xorg.conf crap that i came across06:57
bboxetnothing is working06:57
ere4sibboxet: brb06:58
bboxetalright06:58
mikubuntuere4si: i got these boxes from the county auction, and they 'had' windows running on them and i guess wiped off.  here is a comment from someone at linuxforums, do you see anything in his statement that might apply to me? : I'm officially retarded...07:00
mikubuntuThe problem was that I had left my Windows partition in my lilo.conf . After removed that section, all is well.07:00
ere4simikubuntu: your getting grub to install now?07:01
ere4sibboxet: which video driver are you using?07:01
bboxetits on vega right now07:02
bboxetthe forums are tellling me this needs i81007:02
ere4sibboxet: isn't the display on that laptop a widescreen?07:02
bboxeti dont think so07:02
bboxetits not really new or anything07:03
bboxeti edited the xorg.conf according the forums07:03
bboxetit boots but the screen is completely black07:03
bboxetthis is a older laptop i guess07:03
bboxeti dont think its wide screen07:04
mikubuntuere4si: no, that was what a guy on linux forums posted07:04
mikubuntuere4si: i was just wondering if it could apply to me also07:05
ere4sibboxet: reboot into the rescue kernel and at the prompt that appears type  -   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg      and choose the defaults exept for the video driver - scroll up and select i81007:05
ere4simikubuntu: if there was a complete format off the drive then probably not - there was windows there before right - no linux07:06
ere4simikubuntu: can you check the bios on one of the other comps?07:07
mikubuntuere4si: ya it was windows.  good idea, i'll check another machine.  i'll be awhile no doubt, thanks for your help07:09
ere4sik07:09
bboxetere4si: sorry video messed up07:14
bboxetyeah so i can't get i810 to work properly07:14
ere4siwith the i810 driver?07:14
ere4sik07:14
bboxetalso another question07:14
bboxeti dont have a start up screen at all07:14
ere4sifound this - http://www.meyerloewen.net/dellinux/07:15
bboxeti recall something about editing the grub loader?07:15
bboxetere4si: i already did that07:15
ere4sibboxet: a menu at boot? is that what your after there?07:16
bboxetno07:16
bboxetisnt there a start up screen? like a splash screen?07:16
ere4siyep - you need to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file as sudo07:17
bboxetk cool07:17
ere4siscroll down to where it says  "end default options"07:18
bboxetim stumped with the video07:22
ere4sibboxet: found this link - read the bottom post - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/have-a-dell-inspiron-1100-with-slow-video-or-640x480-video-resolution-solution-here-132135/07:23
bboxetere4si: this is from 200407:25
ere4sibboxet: so's the laptop :) - most sites say that adding lines for the vert & horiz sync to xorg and deleting all resolutions except 1024x768 is what works07:27
bboxetim going to do another thing real quick07:28
ere4sik07:28
bboxetere4si: im stumped.07:48
ere4sibboxet: what did you try?07:48
bboxethold on07:49
bboxethttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19002207:50
bboxeti tried that and numerous other sites07:50
ere4sibboxet: what about the bios update? - one poster that couldn't get it working was given the suggestion of going to dell's' site for the free bios update07:55
bboxeti have a32 installed07:55
bboxetthe latest bios update07:55
ere4sik07:56
ere4sican you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?07:58
ere4si!paste | bboxet07:58
ubotubboxet: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:58
dave__ere4si: this is bboxet08:10
dave__i didn't get it to work lol im stumped?08:10
dave__back to the forums08:11
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ere4sipaste wouldn't work for bboxet?08:14
ere4siseems it might just be something simple in your xorg from all the posts I've read now08:15
Steve14i could solve my resolution problem with changing my nvidia tnt2 to a geforce fx5200 :) I can get sound now also, cause i changed the soundblaster to a 6XFire :D08:44
ere4simy tnt2 works ok - just needed the right driver08:54
Steve14is there a way to get seamonky as a debian package? icould only find iceape in an very old version only :/09:09
Steve14*a09:09
grahamperrinSteve14: what's iceape?09:33
Steve14grahamperrin: some customized debian seamonkey built :(09:38
grahamperrinty09:39
slow-motionhi11:02
DistressHello, I have a problem with xubuntu login, am I in the right channel?13:03
TheSheepyes13:04
TheSheeptell us more about your problem :)13:04
DistressWell, when trying to login, I get a message like  "$home/.dmrc file is being ignored"13:04
DistressI googled it, and found several solutions, none of it worked...13:05
TheSheeptry to remove that file13:06
TheSheepit contains your default session and language13:06
Distressum, that's why am here, I have no idea how to do that (my knowledge of copmuter language is zero...)13:07
Distressthis is the full message I got:13:07
Distress“User’s $HOME/.dmrc” file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permission. User $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users”13:07
TheSheepDistress: well, just go to your home directory, enable displaying of hidden files, and move that file to trash13:08
Distresshow do I do this?13:08
TheSheepDistress: click on the 'home' icon on your desktop13:14
TheSheepdouble click, actually13:14
Distressah, but I cannot login to my desktop at all13:15
Distressthis happens when I try to login13:15
TheSheepwhat happened just before it started?13:15
Distressnothing much, I was downloading stuff, then at restart I got that message at login13:16
Distressi found this at ubuntu forums:13:17
DistressPress <Ctrl><Alt>F2 and log in with your username and password. Then, at the prompt, run13:18
DistressCode:13:18
Distresssudo chmod 644 /home/username/.dmrc13:18
Distresssudo chown username:username /home/username/.dmrc13:18
Distressbut after loging in with my username and pasword, the console asks for my password again13:18
TheSheepthis means the password was wrong13:21
Distressso I cannot enter the second code13:22
Distressno I got the pass right, then I entered the first code "sudo chmod 644 /home/username/.dmrc ", then it asked me again for my pass, so I don't get a chance to enter the second code13:22
TheSheepDistress: just enter your pass second time13:25
DistressI do it, then it says Sorry, wrong password, or something like that. I did it a hundred times so I cannot be wrong with the pass...13:26
slow-motionbbl13:27
TheSheepDistress: is this the same user tha was created when you installed xubuntu?13:31
Distressyes, it's the same user13:34
TheSheepthen you should be allowed to run sudo13:36
TheSheepDistress: what happens when you type 'sudo -s' and enter your password?13:37
Distressyou mean in the ctrl+alt+F1?13:38
Distressit says: /bin/bash: password: no such file or directory13:41
TheSheepDistress: seems like your system is very broken13:46
TheSheepDistress: missing important files13:46
Distresshow can that be, I didn't mess with anything...13:48
DistressI would do a clean reinstall but I have a big music library stuck....13:48
Distressis there anything I can try before I drop everything and reinstall?13:49
TheSheepDistress: boot the livecd and backup your important files13:49
TheSheepDistress: it's possible that your hard disk drive got broken13:49
Distressokay, how do I backup with the livecd? where is that option?13:50
=== pricechild is now known as PriceChild
TheSheepDistress: you will see an icon of your disk on the desktop, you can just go in there and copy the files you need on a thumbdrive or burn on a cd13:52
Distressbut I cannot access my desktop, it's at the login that I recieve the message13:53
TheSheepDistress: that's why you need to boot from the livecd13:53
TheSheepDistress: I just realised you cannot burn your files to a cd when you're running from a livecd13:53
Distressyeah :)13:54
Clark_der_TeXnicHello13:54
=== Clark_der_TeXnic is now known as Technicer
Distressto hell with this, I'm going back to windows14:09
Distressthanks anyway14:09
russellkinghello?14:19
TheSheephi russellking14:20
russellking hey! my first response from someone in the linux community WOOT14:20
russellkingok, i just got xubuntu installed from a live cd on a magazine, and I've been interested in learning linux for a while now14:21
russellkingup until now, i've been a microsoft xp (pshhh got fed up of exceptions) user14:21
russellkingso, erm, this is my first port of call, so to speak14:22
TheSheepgreat14:22
TheSheepthere is a xubuntu user guide to help you get oriented14:22
TheSheephttps://help.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html14:23
TheSheepif you have any questions, just ask14:23
russellkingtanks14:24
TheSheepyou don't have to read it all in one go, of course ;)14:24
TheSheepah, there might be some differences, because things change and are not always updated in time14:25
russellkinglol my keyboard has already gone wonky14:27
russellkingsorry14:27
russellking..14:27
russellkingso far, i have not updated in anyway - i'm using 7.0414:28
russellkingand i have absolutely no idea how to start programming in linux, and have about 1% knowledge of the cli commands14:28
russellkingand why has my keyboard turned into an american?14:29
russellkingGR14:31
russellkingok - how do i stop the computer using x config when i change my keyboard layout?14:32
TheSheeprussellking: I don't know, but I know how to change thedefault X config14:33
TheSheeprussellking: open a terminal and type 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'14:34
TheSheeprussellking: then go through the configuration, accepting all defaults, except for the thing you want to change14:34
russellkingthanks - just going through the vdeo adapter stuff now14:36
russellkingSHEEP? its still using the x config, and it still thinks my keyboard is american. I keep telling it to stop using an accent, but it doesn't listen to me.14:47
russellkingi'll look it up in a faq somewhere14:47
magic_ninjaiany IT professionals in here15:02
magic_ninjaihi TheSheep long time no see15:03
Russellkingheya thesheep - worked after reboot15:03
Russellkingthanks15:03
sancashello!!!!16:47
sancasI wonder if someone could put the effect of the cube in his xubuntu16:47
TheSheep!compiz16:47
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion16:47
TheSheepRussellking: sorry, I was commuting16:48
magic_ninjaiTheSheep: how did that contracting deal with the school go17:03
magic_ninjaiTheSheep: i remember you talking about it a long time ago17:03
=== magic_ninjai is now known as magic_ninja
TheSheepmagic_ninja: it didn't work out17:05
magic_ninjathats no good17:05
magic_ninjaTheSheep: they go with a different person17:05
TheSheepprobably17:06
TheSheepmagic_ninja: this is a discussion for xubuntu-offtopic, btw17:06
magic_ninjai'm putting in a resume for a computer tech job where i work tomarrow, i'm on the floor in a factory atm, but hopefully i get it :-)17:06
=== Clark_der_TeXnic is now known as TeXnicer
TeXnicerÄh, moin17:44
* TeXnicer poltert herein17:44
TeXnicer[XChat2] Wie kann man beim Start mehrere channels betreten? Leerzeichen und Komma geht nicht...?17:54
TheSheep!de17:54
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de17:54
TeXnicerTheSheep: erm *dow*17:58
TeXnicer!dow17:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dow - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:58
TeXnicerI like to have Xchat2 joining more than one channel during startup but he takes only first argument...17:59
TeXnicerseperators like " " or "," do not work. anyone a clue?17:59
TheSheepTeXnicer: try asking on xchat18:00
culb#channel,#channel,#channel18:13
culbxchat tells you that18:13
Russellkingare you still in TheSheep?18:46
Russellking(if you are, you should get out - thats just sick)18:47
PeckaHIRC can be accessed by many ways18:48
Russellkingprogramming ones own irc client being the hardest18:48
TheSheepRussellking: sorry18:53
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emdashwhat's the deal with this unsigned security update20:40
emdashhow can you have an unsigned security update?20:40
emdashVersion 1:1.3.0-0ubuntu1.1:20:40
emdashfor packages xserver-xorg-core20:41
emdashand libxfont120:41
TheSheepemdash: who are you talking to?20:42
emdashit showed up in my update manager20:48
TheSheepif you want to reach the developers, write to the -dev mailing list20:51
chardingAnyone know where the .schema files go for XFCE?20:59
chardingfor panel applets20:59
TheSheepcharding: I think that xfce doesn't use gconf21:00
chardingbut gnome applets work in xfce?21:01
TheSheepcharding: through a wrapper applet21:01
chardingTheSheep: Yeah I've read about that one..21:01
chardingXF(something)21:01
TheSheepcharding: you could try on #xfce, there are some xfce devs in there sometimes21:02
chardingIf it's a gnome applet, can I change some of the code to fit for xfce?21:02
chardingah ok21:02
TheSheepI don't think it's straightforward21:02
chardingTheSheep: ok thanks21:03
thegoodtimers191f21:56
=== Pricey is now known as PriceChild
thegoodtimers191its been a while since I have used irc so pleace forgive me for any breach of protocal.  I have a quick question.  I downloaded the desktop version of xubuntu and ran it on my Toshiba satillite to see how i like it.  Unfortunelty when it booted up, I just got a desktop with fonts sizes so large they take up the whole screen.  When i run it in safe graphics mode i don't have any problems. any help pointing me i22:02
thegoodtimers191n the right direction would be helpful.22:02
TheSheepthegoodtimers191: probably the dpi of your screen is getting detected wrong22:04
TheSheepthegoodtimers191: you can force dpi in your xorg.conf22:05
TheSheepthegoodtimers191: just put  '        Option          "DPI"   "96x96"22:05
TheSheep'22:05
TheSheepin your 'screen' section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf22:06
TheSheepand restart the X server22:06
thegoodtimers191thank you sheep for the responce...I read about that in a couple of forums...but since I'm new to linux I just wanted to make sure I got the conformation from several sources before proceeding..your help has been much appreciated22:07
TheSheepthegoodtimers191: you know how to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf?22:12
thegoodtimers191not really but a I can find out how on line...but i dont want to bother you22:15
TheSheepin terminal, gksu mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf22:17
TheSheepand alt+ctrl+backspace to restart the X server without rebooting the computer22:17
thegoodtimers191thank you so much22:19
TheSheepI think you can also edit some file in ~/.config/xfce4/ to set dpi for your user only, not sure what it was22:21
magic_ninjahast he xserver problem been fixed22:25
thegoodtimers191the found couple of other suggestions but i really need the hints about using terminal22:26
TheSheepthegoodtimers191: you can start Thunar as root, with 'gksu thunar', and then do it graphically22:27
thegoodtimers191that is a really sweet idea22:28
thegoodtimers191i'm not totally new to terminal...ive been playing with backtrack 2 for a couple of weeks22:30
TheSheepthegoodtimers191: personally, I often navigate using thunar and then use the 'open terminal here' option to actually perform the commands that require terminal22:31
TheSheepthat is, when i happen to have the mouse in my hand, cd is faster to type of course22:31
thegoodtimers191but keeping the learning curve somewhat easy is what i need right now22:32
viddfor some reason,the flash player plugin is not working22:32
TheSheepvidd: 64bit system?22:32
viddfresh install on gutsy22:32
viddno...32bit22:33
TheSheepvidd: you installed the flashplugin-nonfree package?22:33
viddyes22:33
TheSheepvidd: can you verify it's installed?22:33
viddbut i keep getting the message that it is not installed22:33
viddhow?22:33
TheSheepvidd: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree22:34
cookiemonster077anybody here22:34
TheSheepcookiemonster077: no :)22:34
cookiemonster077haha22:35
TheSheepmagic_ninja: connection problems?22:35
cookiemonster077i need help in a major way.  are you busy22:35
TheSheep!ask22:35
ubotuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)22:35
magic_ninjaTheSheep: the x server keeps restarting itself22:35
viddTheSheep, flashplugin-nonfree:  Installed: 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12  Candidate: 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12  Version table: *** 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12 0        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/multiverse Packages        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status22:35
cookiemonster077sorry newbie22:35
magic_ninjai tried the fix on the forums but that made it WORSE22:35
TheSheepvidd: did you close firefox after installing it?22:36
TheSheepcookiemonster077: no problem22:36
cookiemonster077i am trying to connect xubuntu with my xp network shares22:36
viddfirefox wasnt open when i installed22:36
magic_ninjaTheSheep: any ideas22:36
TheSheepmagic_ninja: it restarts when you open the terminal?22:37
magic_ninjaTheSheep: it restarts randomly22:37
magic_ninjaTheSheep: its those xserver problems that happened ( i haven't updated for a couple weeks)22:37
viddthe system that was upgraded from feisty is fine, but all fresh installs fail22:37
TheSheepmagic_ninja: any error messages? logs?22:37
magic_ninjai just updated today22:37
magic_ninjais the new distro out22:37
magic_ninjawhere xserver logs stored22:38
TheSheepmagic_ninja: /var/log/Xorg.0.log22:38
magic_ninjahttp://pastebin.ca/86680222:39
TheSheepvidd: maybe start firefox in terminal and see if there are any messages?22:39
viddTheSheep, ive installed using the wizard,apt-get, and synaptic....all fail22:39
viddok...22:39
viddTheSheep, no errors in terminal22:40
magic_ninjaTheSheep: while you look at that i'm going to reinstall my nvidia drivers22:40
viddis there a test page so i can see if its just the site im trying to view?22:41
TheSheepvidd: video.google.com22:41
TheSheepvidd: or adobe.com22:41
viddsame result22:42
TheSheepvidd: does it work on a fresh user?22:43
viddim ininstall --purge right now22:44
TheSheepmagic_ninja: you installed the drivers from repositories?22:44
TheSheepmagic_ninja: because there seems to be a version mismatch22:45
vidd!pastebin22:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)22:45
magic_ninjaTheSheep: na i don't like the repo drivers, i install from the site, i didn't realize the xserver was updating so i reinstalled drivers and it seems to be working22:46
viddTheSheep, this is what i got when i purged and re-installed with apt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52838/22:46
TheSheepmagic_ninja: well, we can't help you if you break something yourself :)22:47
TheSheepvidd: ugh, looks like they changed the archive but forgot to update the checksum22:48
viddwonderful22:48
viddso i need to manually install?22:49
crimsunor use hardy's if you're on ia32.22:49
TheSheepit's a little tricky, because the actual files are not in the package, only downloaded and extracted when the package is installed -- the license doesn't allow otherwise22:49
crimsundo _not_ use it if you're on x86_64.22:49
viddis there a deb i can download for hardy's flashplayer?22:50
crimsunthat new Flash version breaks on all sorts of things, namely x86_64, konqueror, some opera versions, etc.22:50
TheSheepvidd: http://packages.ubuntu.com22:50
crimsunagain, this is _only_ applicable if you're using a 32-bit install.22:51
viddcrimsun, yes...i have 32-bit22:51
viddwhat is the command? dpkg -i?22:54
mikubuntui made an iso of knoppix to use to try to fix my bootloader on xub; grub nor lilo would install last nite.  someone here told me the knoppix has some tools that might help me fix, but problem is i don't sprecken ze deutch.  anyone know how i can change menus to english from german?22:55
viddggrrrr this all depends on hardy versions of everything22:57
viddand the gutsy version has a mdsum mismatch22:59
crimsunyou can hack the config and postinst, you know, for the gutsy version.23:01
crimsunthat's all it is.23:01
viddlooks like the gnash thing fixed it instead of the nonfree23:15
viddnope....now i get "copy protection - halt when i try to open a site with flash23:15
viddhow stable is hardy?23:16
j1mcvidd: it's still at alpha 3, but it has been fine for me so far.23:17
j1mcbugs and breakage are still a possibility at this point, though.23:17
viddim kinda upset that gutsy broke the flash player23:17
j1mcan update in gutsy broke the flash player?23:18
viddno...a clean install did23:18
viddthe upgrade works fine23:18
j1mchm... have you updated everything after doing the clean install?23:19
viddthe md5sum in the gutsy for the flashplayer-nonfree is wrong23:19
viddso it installs but is disabled23:20
viddand the site i need flash for does not play at all with gnash23:20
j1mci think i've had that issue before (with flash).23:21
j1mcif you can wait, it should get resolved within the next day or so.23:21
viddit hasnt been resolved for the last 3 months23:21
j1mcflashplugin-nonfree is obvs nonfree, so ubuntu can't do too much about it23:21
j1mcwhat?23:22
j1mcvidd have you googled this, or searched the forums?23:22
j1mcmaybe there's a fix somewhere.23:22
viddim going to try the upgrade to hardy23:22
viddill google for a fix on my other box23:23
j1mcvidd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=416043023:23
viddi'll try that tommorow on my work machine23:24
viddj1mc, im already in the middle of a hardy dist-upgrade23:28
somerville32vidd: They're working on a fix but a quick fix would have been to just install the hardy package23:29
somerville32(unless you use Konq which would result in a browser that likes to segfault :) )23:29
viddkONQ?23:31
viddKonq?23:31
j1mckonqueror  :)23:33
viddisnt that a KDE package?23:34
somerville32Yes23:34
j1mcyeah, i think somerville32 was joking with you.  i don't think you'd want to install konqueror.23:34
j1mcon a xubuntu system, anyway.23:34
somerville32What I was saying that the problem with the update is that it crashes browsers that don't support xembed23:35
viddfirefox is ok?23:35
somerville32Yes23:35
j1mchehe... in the ubuntu channel, someone tried to reply to ubotu.  they were like, "ubotu, that link does not work."23:35
somerville32hehe23:35
viddpatriots aregoing to the superbowl =[23:36
viddooppss....that was for -offtopic23:37

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