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cn28hlovely, no worries -- is this an ext3 partition?00:00
lovelycn28h: mount: can't find sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab00:00
cn28hlovely, yeah, that's not the correct syntax -- which fs does it use?00:01
lovelycn28h: if I didnt remove them, how would they be missing?.... yes00:01
yao_ziyuanseriously,00:01
lovelycn28h: fs?00:01
cn28hlovely, ok you first need to make a mount point00:01
cn28hlovely, fs = filesystem00:01
yao_ziyuankbuntu should remake itself as ubuntu+kubuntu-desktop00:01
cn28hlovely, mkdir /media/temp ; mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /media/temp00:01
yao_ziyuankubuntu should not do everything over again, like chinese input support00:01
yao_ziyuanlet ubuntu take care of them00:02
cn28hlovely, as root, then cd to /media/temp and see if you can see stuff there00:02
lovelycn28h: I went for the faster linux format, I believe it is the ext-300:02
trond!compiz00:02
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion00:02
cn28hlovely, well, try taht then, if not it'll just list an error saying you were wrong and it wasn't ext3 and you can try another00:02
Dragnslcryao_ziyuan- that's exactly what Kubuntu already is00:03
lovelycn28h: done, it seems to be ext-300:03
yao_ziyuanno. if i install kubuntu freshly, i don't automatically get chinese display and input00:03
cn28hlovely, are you able to see your files?00:03
lovelycn28h: no such file or Dir00:04
Dragnslcryao_ziyuan- probably because Gnome and KDE are responsible for it themselves00:04
lovelycn28h: http://rafb.net/p/1IvdYq35.html00:04
cn28hlovely, no "to" there, just cd /media/temp ; ls00:04
yao_ziyuanDragnslcr: there are some things not specific to gnome or kde that ubuntu automatically sets up well00:04
yao_ziyuanlike chinese fonts00:05
yao_ziyuankubuntu's chinese fonts suck00:05
yao_ziyuancan't use them00:05
lovelycn28h: DOH00:05
Dragnslcryao_ziyuan- then that's an issue with KDE00:05
yao_ziyuanso i have to install ubuntu first, then kubuntu-desktop00:05
lovelycn28h: got them00:05
cn28hlovely, so now the question is why doesn't it automount -- ps aux | grep /usr/sbin/hald00:06
yao_ziyuanDragnslcr: maybe...00:06
cn28h(to see if hald is running)00:06
StrangeletI am trying to backup my music into an external HD, the only problem is that some songs and folder names have umlauts in them. How can I set it I may put those files/folders in?00:06
Odd-rationalecn28h: I just got here. Is lovely having problems automounting an external ntfs hdd?00:07
yao_ziyuanlol. i don't hate ubuntu's shitty-yellow interface so much now...00:07
lovelycn28h: http://rafb.net/p/2rND7x78.html00:07
yao_ziyuanstill will try to find better gnome themes online00:07
cn28hOdd-rationale, ext3, but otherwise yes -- he can mount it, i just doesn't auto mount, so I'm having him investigate HAL now00:07
yao_ziyuani also tried fedora 8 + kde yesterday. fedora 8's kde doesn't come with the Polyester theme by default00:08
ardchoille!language | yao_ziyuan00:08
ubotuyao_ziyuan: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.00:08
Odd-rationalecn28h: OK. Well, I have problems automounting ntfs. But I can mount from the cli, so no big deal. Just wondering whether it was the same issue...00:08
StrangeletI am trying to backup my music into an external HD, the only problem is that some songs and folder names have umlauts in them. How can I set it I may put those files/folders in?00:08
lovelycn28h: actually it started with my digital camera not conecting, and has moved on00:08
cn28hlovely, hm, seems to be running.. /etc/init.d/hald restart, then unmount, unplug, plug back in00:08
yao_ziyuanand fedora's repository server is slow ass00:08
yao_ziyuano00:08
cn28hOdd-rationale, it may be a HAL thing00:08
yao_ziyuani thought #pclinuxos is the only family friendly channel :)00:08
lovelycn28h: -su: /etc/init.d/hald: No such file or directory00:08
cn28hsorry, /etc/init.d/hal restart00:09
Odd-rationalecn28h: I searched the forums. Serveral reports of the same issue. No definite solution yet. Probably hardy will fix it.00:09
cn28hhm00:09
* yao_ziyuan sings to: "where family-unfriendliness is... that's the place for me... where i'm me in my own space, where i'm free that's the place... i wanna be! ..."00:09
lovelycn28h: It is odd, on trying one time to fix the camera prob, I reinstalled and it worked untill I reinserted my saved settings00:11
cn28hhm00:11
cn28hwell, afaik auto mount of that sort is done by HAL, so it is most likely an issue with your HAL configuration00:12
cn28h(you might ask in #hal)00:12
lovelycn28h: so, unmount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /media/tem?00:12
cn28hno00:12
cn28humount /media/temp00:13
yao_ziyuanit's always better to have both00:13
cn28hand you'll have to cd out of the dir first00:13
cn28hotherwise you'll get that it's in use00:13
mantanI'm using gutsy and it just told me to version upgrade to gutsy, what is the meaning of this?00:13
lovelycn28h: umount: /media/temp: device is busy00:13
StrangeletI am trying to backup my music into an external HD, the only problem is that some songs and folder names have umlauts in them. How can I set it I may put those files/folders in?00:13
mantanI just installed fyi00:13
cn28hlovely, see previous lines00:13
lovelycn28h: ahh00:14
yao_ziyuan#ubuntu has 1258 ppl...00:14
yao_ziyuanvery insane...00:14
Strangeleteh, less than a fraction of them are actually active00:14
lovelycn28h: http://rafb.net/p/5zHa6b10.html00:16
Odd-rationaleyao_ziyuan: I'm one of them :)00:16
mint2mantan - me too00:16
yao_ziyuanOdd-rationale: i decide to keep both channels00:16
mantanmint2 did you get a failed adept update as well?00:16
lovelycd /00:17
sledgehello everyone. :-)00:17
lovelycd //00:17
mint2yes00:17
lovelyoops00:17
cn28hlovely, because it's not mounted -- see df -h to check mounts (or run mount with no parameters)00:17
mint2mantan - same here00:17
sledgeI got a problem with my SATA drives.00:17
mint2mantan - so i  did sudo apt-get update00:17
mint2adept seems to be going funny00:17
FaiDillinGerhi there00:18
sledgeSpecifically, I have two machines. Dmesg on both machines shows the partitions, but on one machine, only the generic device (sda, sdb) show up, not the partition nodes (sda1, sdb1).00:18
lovelycn28h: http://rafb.net/p/eOAEv499.html00:18
FaiDillinGershould i install the wine version thats in the repos ? or is it outdated ?00:18
StrangeletI am trying to backup my music into an external HD, the only problem is that some songs and folder names have umlauts in them. How can I set it I may put those files/folders in?00:18
sledgeAnybody seen this before?00:18
biovoreFaiDillinGer: you can get the latest wine from winehq00:19
BluesKajsledge, dmesg | grep hd ?00:19
cn28hlovely, right, notice how /dev/sdb1 isn't in the list -- now that you've restarted hal, unplug the device and plug it back in, see what happens.  If nothing, you might have to go ask in #hal (because I'm not hal guru)00:19
FaiDillinGerok biovore00:19
mantanmint2 I just tried doing the apt get and it told me i need to manually run dpkg. did you get this too00:19
sledgeBluesKaj: let me paste that00:19
mint2yeah00:19
mint2do as it says00:20
lovelycn28h: am unplugging and replugging again00:20
lovelycn28h: same00:21
sledgeBluesKaj: let me paste that00:21
sledgeBluesKaj: http://rafb.net/p/VMXkWA25.html00:21
sledgeBluesKaj: There are no partition device nodes in /dev:00:22
sledgeservesledge:~$ ls -al /dev/sd*00:22
sledgebrw-rw---- 1 root disk 8,  0 2008-01-20 17:34 /dev/sda00:22
sledgebrw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 16 2008-01-20 17:34 /dev/sdb00:22
cn28hlovely, try asking in #hal00:22
lovelycn28h: thanks for trying, off I go00:23
cn28hnp00:23
sledgeNow, I must mention that the other machine is the server edition, not desktop.00:23
jimmygoonHelp! I activated kwin compositing (since compiz has worked fine and kde4 with my existing 7.10 install had worked)00:24
jimmygoonanyway, it doesn't now and I can't see anything when I log in, where do i change the setting back from bash00:25
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g2g591jimmygoon: #kubuntu-kde400:25
jimmygoonthanks g2g59100:25
Odd-rationaleDoes konversation have emoticons?00:26
jimmygoong2g591: do you know how? I can't look. I'm stuck w/ irssi00:28
mantanhow do I set up 2 monitors on gutsy? I can't find anywhere in the monitor & display to do so00:28
DragnslcrOdd-rationale- for the love of all that is sacred, I hope not00:28
g2g591jimmygoon: try /join kubuntu-kde400:29
Odd-rationaleDragnslcr: Just wondering...00:29
jimmygoong2g591: I did, but there are 30 (inactive) people there. thanks. I will lynx and look00:31
g2g591jimmygoon: oh. i wish i knew how to fix for you00:31
JustMeMantan: check here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dual-monitors-with-nvidia.html00:32
jimmygoong2g591: thats kewl. thanks00:32
Dr_willisonce you install the nvidia driver and tools. theres a nvidia config tool that enables the moniotrs00:33
jimmygoong2g591: I found a config file and set compositing:false so I may have fixed it00:33
sledgeBluesKaj: The partitions _do_ show up inf cfdisk, but not in /sys.00:34
mantanE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)00:35
mantanE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?00:35
mantanit gave me that when I tried the first line that tutorial gives you00:36
ouellettesrhello, I just installed kubuntu, and after I rebooted, it starts up and the screen is all messed up. There are lines going from the botton of the screen to the top. And kind of left to right00:36
NickPresta!aptfix | mantan00:36
ubotumantan: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »00:36
ouellettesranyone know how to fix my problem?00:39
Dr_willisouellettesr,  what video card?00:40
mantanit's not identifying the comman gedit00:42
Dr_williskubuntu diosent have gedit.. use some other editor.00:42
Dr_willisor install gedit00:42
Dr_willis!editor00:42
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code00:42
g2g591mantan: kate is the kubuntu version of gedit00:42
ouellettesrDr_willis: I have an aopen mp945-d, it has a Intel 945GM Express chipset and the video is integrated00:44
ouellettesrhello?00:50
ouellettesrcan anyone help me?00:53
* g2g591 heres an echo in the distance00:54
* g2g591 doesn't know how to fix soundcard stuff00:54
cn28houellettesr, does changing your resolution make a difference?00:54
ouellettesrcn28h. how do I do that?00:55
cn28honesandzeros, K->System settings->Monitor/Display00:57
cn28her00:57
cn28houellettesr, rather00:58
ouellettesrI couldn't even login to do that00:58
ouellettesrbut I fixed it00:58
cn28hhow?00:58
ouellettesrkubuntu installed using wrong driver00:58
cn28htweaked xorg.conf?00:58
ouellettesrit was set to intel, I changed it to i81000:58
cn28hi810 is an intel driver00:58
ouellettesrI ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg00:59
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cn28hbut, it works00:59
ouellettesrright, but it was preset to intel, not sure why00:59
cn28hthat's that important thing ;P00:59
ouellettesryep00:59
cn28hman, the kernel takes a lot longer to compile than I remembered01:00
cn28hgranted, it's been ~5 years since I did this regularly01:00
cn28hand it was on the same hardware, haha01:00
ouellettesrI haven't compiled a kernel in a very long time01:00
NickPrestaAny idea why `fglrxinfo -display :0` would return info about Mesa drivers when I have fglrx in my xorg.conf with the drivers installed (and restricted-manager tells me they are in use)?01:00
ouellettesrwell ever since using ubuntu01:00
cn28hyeah, when I was new to linux I thought building the kernel was so cool ;P01:02
cn28hI used to check kernel.org all the time looking for new releases01:02
cn28hof course I was also using slackware, so you know I had to love compiling things01:03
cn28hafter a few years that got old, though01:03
cn28hany of you guys play with encfs yet?01:04
hdevalencehow would I fix "undefined reference to `Blitz::blur(QImage&, int)'"?01:05
flakehdevalence - should you ask that in a blitz irc or forum?  The answer is though, that you are not linking to the library when you should01:06
hdevalenceflake: I'd kinda figured out the part about not linking to the library, but I can't figure out why it's unable to01:07
oldmanstani hosed my wireless, when i originally install kubuntu there was this nice popup in the sys tray that would show detected networks, now it's gone, any ideas?01:07
oldmanstannow the icon just gives me settings and stuff01:08
flakedon't know how blitz ide is put together, prob best to ask in their forum01:09
ouellettesris there a package like build essentials for kubuntu?01:11
ardchoilleouellettesr: There is build-essential01:11
ardchoille!info build-essential01:11
ubotubuild-essential (source: build-essential): informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB01:11
ouellettesrahh I was putting an "s" at the end of it01:12
blizzzekgn801:12
ouellettesrthanks ardchoille01:12
ardchoilleyw :)01:12
cn28holdmanstan, which wireless card do you have?01:12
ouellettesrhm I can't seem to run ./autogen.sh is there a package that I need to do that?01:13
oldmanstancn28h: atheros, but it's not a hardware thing, the applet just disappeared01:14
ouellettesraclocal, autoreconf, automake, libtoolize are all  not found.01:14
cn28houellettesr, what error do you get?01:14
cn28holddude67, maybe it was knetworkmanager?01:14
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ouellettesrthat all those files I just listed above are not found01:14
cn28her, oldmanstan01:14
ouellettesroh01:14
cn28houellettesr, there's not a ./configure script already?01:14
oldmanstancn28h: yeah, knetworkmanager is still there, but only has manual configuration as an option, no wireless networks listed01:15
cn28hhm, odd01:15
cefoldmanstan: left click instead of right?01:15
cn28hnot sure -- I just use wpa_supplicant01:15
oldmanstancef: left click shows connection status but the only tab available now is "device" whereas before the others were active01:16
ouellettesrcn28h: getting automake took care of it01:16
cefoldmanstan: hrmm.. did you use manual settings for anything in there like the lan?01:17
oldmanstani didn't have but my sister was screwing with my computer (which is what caused this), she was trying to get on a wireless network, couldn't do it, and the next time i used the machine it was like this01:17
cefhrmmmm01:18
cefmight've set up the wireless adapter for a static address or something01:18
oldmanstanthe right click menu used to list all the detected wireless networks, now only "manual configuration" and some other settings stuff01:18
cefgo into manual configuration and check I guess01:18
oldmanstanugh01:19
oldmanstanit shouldn't be this easy to break it imho01:19
cefit's probably not broken. it might even be disabled01:20
oldmanstansays it's enabled01:20
oldmanstanath0 and eth0 are both enabled01:20
cefhardware switch is on?01:20
cef(I know I've done that before)01:21
jimmygoonIs there a kde equiv of gksu?01:21
oldmanstanhehe, yeah, hardware switch is one, although it wasn't the first time i tried fixing this01:21
cefoldmanstan: better safe than sorry. :D01:22
cn28hjimmygoon, kdesu01:22
oldmanstani just don't get it, the default wireless manager thing is actually knetworkmanager right?01:22
cefoldmanstan: is the network settings for ath0 set to "DHCP" and "Automatic" (if no radio buttons are selected, that's automatic)01:23
oldmanstanradio button for automatic is checked and set to dhcp01:23
cefit assumes if you set it to anything manual, you'll take care of it01:23
oldmanstanit's set to automatic01:24
limachey, how can i change my screen resolution?01:24
cefyou could try editing /etc/network/interfaces and remove the stanza's for ath0, which will (afaik) set it back to defaults.01:24
cefahh, what's in the options sub-menu?01:25
oldmanstanwouldn't that just make it disappear?01:25
cefno, if there is no entry, knetworkmanager just takes over for it. .. not a great fan of that behaviour01:26
limachow can I change my screen resolution???01:26
oldmanstanhmmm01:27
hydrogenlimac: run krandrtray01:27
hydrogenand check down in the system tray01:27
limachow?01:27
ouellettesrctrl+alt+ = or - limac01:27
ouellettesrsorry + or -01:27
limacwhat?01:27
ouellettesrcontrol plus alt plus + plus or minus01:28
cn28hlimac, K->System settings->Monitor/Display01:28
cefoldmanstan: checked the options item in the right click on knetworkmanager?01:28
limacand then?01:28
ouellettesr:)01:28
limaccn28h: then what01:28
cn28hpick the one you want, hit apply01:28
oldmanstancef: one second, rebooting01:28
The_N3rdMkay, I have a problem, and googling brings up no usefull results.01:29
StrangeletI am trying to backup my music into an external HD, the only problem is that some songs and folder names have umlauts in them. How can I set it I may put those files/folders in?01:29
cn28hStrangelet, if accessing the backups directly is not important, you might just stick them in a tarball -- I assume you're trying to copy to a fs that doesn't support those characters?01:29
limacafter hitting apply it is giving me this dialog box saying Keep or Cancel (cancel in 15 seconds automatically). then do I have to restart my computer01:29
limac?cn ^01:29
limaccn28h: ^^01:29
cefoldmanstan: cos under there you have options to enable/disable wireless, offline/online mode, and a "configure" menu01:30
biovoreyou can put the filename in quote " " or escape the weird chars with a \01:30
cn28hlimac, hit keep if you like it and no, you don't have to restart01:30
oldmanstancef: you're a genius! getting rid of all the entries in interfaces did the trick01:30
cn28hlimac, this isn't windows :)01:30
limaccn28h: If I hit Keep nothing is happening01:30
The_N3rdWhen I go "sudo sshfs user@machine:/media /media/remote"  It changes the directory into what looks like a link.01:30
Strangeletlimac: Hm, sounds good. Well, the file system is NTFS.01:30
cefoldmanstan: you didn't get rid of ALL of them, did you? you left the "lo" interface?01:30
cn28hlimac, which resolutoin did you select?01:30
oldmanstancef: before i was in online mode and also the wireless was enabled01:30
oldmanstancef: yeah, i sorta know what i'm doing with that, just had no idea knetworkmanager behaved like it does01:31
oldmanstan:)01:31
limaccn28h: 1152 X 86401:31
cefoldmanstan: it's called "networkmanager is crap"01:31
cn28hlimac, and when you click apply nothing happens?01:31
cefoldmanstan: nice idea.. needs a bit of work01:31
limaccn28h: no01:31
The_N3rdThis also happens to me when i resume from a hibernate: it turns the directory into a a symlink...but not a symlink01:31
oldmanstancef: yeah, seriously, setting something manually shouldn't mean you have to set it manually forever and ever hehe01:31
ardchoille!pm | warpig01:32
ubotuwarpig: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.01:32
oldmanstancef: thanks a bunch though!01:32
tzangeranyone here seeing any weird double-sleep problems with 7.10 that weren't around on 7.04?  sleep works fine, but resume automatically sleeps again, then a second resume works great01:32
cefoldmanstan: that might be a kdeism though, cos networkmanger under gnome has a "let networkmanager take care of this interface" or something tickbox which does this afaik01:32
oldmanstancef: seems smart01:34
warpigardchoille this is Ziv01:36
StrangeletI am trying to backup my music into an external HD, the only problem is that some songs and folder names have umlauts in them. How can I set it I may put those files/folders in? (besides compressing them into a tarball01:36
limacwhy can't I change my resolution01:37
cn28hStrangelet, if you want to put them on a filesystem that doesn't support those characters you need to rename them (or you can create a filesystem that does support them)01:37
Strangeletcn28h: Hm, but it is NTFS, well, anyways, how do I reformat it?01:38
cn28hStrangelet, hm, odd that ntfs would support them.. I had assumed FAT32.  What error do you get when you try it?01:38
Strangeletcn28h: Hold on, replicating past actions01:39
Strangeletcn28h: Could not make folder /media/---/---/---/einsturzende neubauten (umlaut over the 'u' in Eintsturzende)01:40
Strangeletcn28h: I know it is the umlaut because when I excluded that folder, it could not copy over another folder which also had an umlaut in the folder name01:40
cn28hright, hm01:41
Strangeletcn28h: So how exactly do I reformat my external HD?01:42
cn28hwell, imo that's a crappy solution, but if you want to make it say, ext3, first thing to do is to repartition (cfdisk /dev/sd?) and make it a Linux type partition, then use mkfs.ext3 /dev/sd?? (where ?? is appropriate partition)01:43
vzduchStrangelet: umlaut problems w/ NTFS or FAT32 -> charset problem01:44
vzduchdunno how to fix this other than renaming the affected files01:44
Strangeletohh01:44
cn28hright01:44
DragnslcrI was about to say, wouldn't it be easier to just rename the files01:44
Strangeletyah, but I am nitpicky that way01:44
cn28hI already suggested this earlier btw ;P01:45
vzduchfor this exact reason I try to avoid umlauts in file names01:45
vzduchnot much of a problem other than aesthetics01:46
cn28hyou could always put them inside a filesystem that's stored in a file, too01:46
cn28hif you'd prefer not to reformat the whole drive01:46
Strangelethm, well, I was already thinking of reformatting it01:47
StrangeletIt is annoyingly divided into two sections01:47
Strangelet40gb each01:47
Strangeleta single 80gb paritition would be nice01:47
vzduchtranscription conventions: for German -> ä = ae, ö = oe, ü = ue, ß = ss; for Danish/Norwegian/Swedish/Icelandic: å = aa, æ = ae, ä = a, ö = o; for Finnish/Estonian: äöü = aou01:48
Strangeletvzduch: hmm, I could do that01:49
Strangelet:)01:49
tzangerhas anyone here seen odd double-sleep/resume issues on 7.10 that weren't in 7.04?  it resumes after a sleep, but then goes back to sleep.  resume again and it's fine01:49
FaiDillinGertime for me to go to sleep01:50
craftigac19hola01:53
NickPresta!es | craftigac1901:53
ubotucraftigac19: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.01:54
snarkstercan anyone tell me a linux equivilant to windows zero config01:54
Tm_Tupnp01:54
Tm_T=01:55
snarksterupnp equals windows zero config01:55
Tm_Tno idea, you never explained what this zero config should be01:55
snarksteri thought it was avanhu01:56
snarksteravahi sorry01:56
Tm_Tcould be01:56
Tm_Tas I said...01:56
cn28haight, new kernel time, bbs (hopefully)01:56
snarksterI just asked a question. :)01:57
Tm_Tsnarkster: yes, but I have no idea what exactly you are asking ;)01:57
vzduchdarn, SUSE's zypper is f***ing slow..01:57
snarksteri dont either to be honest.01:57
snarkstersupposed to be some sort of automatic network finding thing.01:57
Lewixhi02:15
Lewixim trying to share files02:15
Lewixwith computers using the same connection02:15
Lewixwhat are the steps i should follow02:15
Dr_williswhat os's are they running, and what sort of stuff are you shareing?02:16
LewixI tried to install samba..then I got lost & they told me they don't support ubuntu02:16
LewixDr_willis, I just want to send a movie to a windows computer02:16
Lewixin my network02:16
Dr_willisSamba is so well documented. :)02:16
Dr_willisLewix,  just the one time? or you want to access stuff on both machines from now on?02:17
LewixDr_willis, so the thing is that I tried to share it via the web, but I cannot access it from the web for some foreign reasons02:17
LewixDr_willis, just the on etime02:17
Dr_willisshare via the web? That makes no sence to me.02:17
LewixDr_willis, ..share a directory on the web?02:18
Dr_williseasy way would be to install sshd on the ubuntu box, and winscp on the windows machine, ssh in, copy file over to windows machine.02:18
Dr_willisSamba has 'shares'  - Thats not not really related to the 'web' :) there is that web interface i think in kde/gnome to share stuff - but ive never used it.02:18
LewixDr_willis, ok how do I install it on the ubuntu box and how do I copy it on the windows02:18
Dr_willis!find sshd02:18
hdevalenceI think Samba is the best choice here...02:19
ubotuFile sshd found in apparmor-profiles, gradm, logwatch, openssh-server02:19
LewixDr_willis, that's what I tried but it didn't work...it only workd from my computer02:19
Lewixim lost02:19
Dr_willisopenssh-server - secure shell server, an rshd replacement02:19
surgyhi02:20
Dr_willisInstall openssh-server on the linux box. go down load winscp on the windows box.  use winscp to connect to the linux box. copy files over.02:20
Dr_willisof course if you re  behind firewalls and other stuff.. that may make it a little harder.02:20
hdevalenceI think Samba is the better option02:20
Dr_willisunless hes doing it over the internet...02:20
Dr_willisim still vague on some of the details to his setup.02:21
hdevalenceit's on a LAN, right?02:21
Dr_willisNo idea. :)02:21
Dr_willisssh and winscp are too handy for me to not setup on my machines.02:21
Lewixok let's say I just want to give access to the directory via the net (propreties-->sharing)02:22
Dr_willisif you have  'share' set up on the windows box. You can use konqueror to browse to the share. and copy the file to it. from the linux machine.. thats another way- IF on the same lan02:22
Dr_willisLewix,  you are refering to a share ont eh windows machine?02:22
surgy!kde402:22
Lewixyes02:22
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde402:22
LewixI am02:22
Dr_willis'sharing' with samba - is Totally diffrent approach then using the ssh/winscp.02:22
LewixDr_willis, im really lost here, you're sayin gstiff like I know how to install them...I'm really new with all this02:23
Dr_willisthe konwueror file browser  should be able to see the varioyus windows machines and shares02:23
Lewixstuff*02:23
hdevalenceLewix:" open konq and put 'smb:/' in the bar02:23
Dr_willishdevalence,  yea. :) i can  never rember if its smb:// or smb:/ or others. :) i was checking that.02:24
Lewixhdevalence, enable to find a workgroup this might be cause by your workgroup02:24
Dr_willisLewix,   the default file manager for kde can do most of this stuff allready. Once ya learn how.02:24
Dr_williswhats the name of your windows workgroup on the windows machine?02:24
Lewixzanne02:25
Dr_willisMine for example is called 'mshome'    so i tell konqueror --> smb://mshome/02:25
Lewixthere's 3 different computers so 3 workgroups02:25
Lewixbut my computer is not on the list02:25
Dr_willisHmm.. You dont need 3 workgroups for 3 computers.02:25
LewixDr_willis, oh its mshome02:26
Lewixsorry02:26
Dr_williscan the other windows machines access that other one?02:26
surgyDr_willis: ive been running the same install of kubuntu for about 9 months now, and i think its time for some maintenance, i can notice that its starting to slow down a bit, any suggestions as to where i should start looking, and what i should start looking at as far as maintenance?02:26
LewixDr_willis, could not connect to02:26
LewixDr_willis, yes they can02:27
Dr_willissurgy,  ive never noticed any slowdowns. :)  ubuntu/linux dosent collect the cruft that ms stuff does.02:27
surgyLewix: is the samba service running?02:27
Lewixcould not connect to host02:27
Dr_willisLewix,  you got the same username/password on the linux box as on the windows machines?02:27
Lewixsmb://MSHOME/02:27
surgyDr_willis: agreed, but i have noticed probably a 20% slow down of my system over the last few weeks02:27
LewixDr_willis, no02:27
Dr_willistheres 2 'ways' to approach the samba thing.. access windows from linux, or access the linux  shares (make them) from windows.02:28
Dr_williswe are trying the first with the smb://mshome/ stuff.02:28
Lewixok02:28
Dr_willisIt should ask for a user/password.. odd.02:28
LewixDr_willis, i don't even know if I have samba installed02:29
surgyLewix: sudo apt-get install samba02:29
Lewixyes It wasn't installed02:29
Lewixnow it is..shall i try it over02:30
surgylewix make sure the service is running too02:30
Lewixno change02:30
surgyjust type samba into the console02:30
Lewixthe same think happen02:30
Lewixcommand no found02:30
surgytry smb02:31
Lewixcommand no found02:31
surgyi know there is a command that starts the server initially02:31
Dr_willisOne dosent need samba installed to access the windows machines with   smb:// :)02:31
Dr_willisif he just installed samba, then the samba server should of started automaticially02:31
surgybut in order for the windows machine to access the linux machine.....02:31
Dr_willisso we are trying it from the OTHER direction now? :)02:32
Dr_willisto enable samba shares on the linux box. He needs to install samba, then enable the user with a samba password 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'    I cheat and always use the same username/password as the windows box.02:32
surgylewix go to system settings and then sharing, and then file sharing02:33
surgygo to administrative mode02:33
surgyadd the file you wish to share and click on advanced, and then click on the samba button02:33
surgyand then apply and click ok02:34
jimmygoonHow do I make it so that apps like firefox and xchat use something other than the default awful gtk2 theme02:34
surgyand then look on the windows machine, it should now show up in the network browser as a shared folder from your linux machine02:34
Dr_willisTheres some gtk-theme-kde package that makes them look pretty much as kde apps. but i forget its name. Theres a check box under the kde settings to enable it also.02:35
Dr_willisbut im not on kde at the moment - so i cant check02:35
jimmygoonDr_willis: that and its probably different in 4 go figure :P thanks for the recommendation02:36
Dr_willisfor kde4 - good luck.02:36
Dr_willisIts proberly not even a feature yet.02:36
Tm_TKDE 4 <302:36
Lewixsurgy, dont see it02:36
Tm_TDr_willis: depends02:36
surgyDr_willis: can you recomend a good widget side bar for kde3?02:36
arcticpenguin380is kde4 stable02:36
Tm_Tarcticpenguin380: sure02:36
surgyLewix: be more specific, you dont see what where?02:36
The_N3rdHey, any thoughts on remote burning?  As in burning discs on a remote computer's drive?02:36
Lewixsurgy, dont see it in the windows machine02:36
Lewixthe shared folder02:37
jimmygoonnow the question is... its installled but how does one make it use gtk-qt-engine ?02:37
surgyLewix: did you make sure your sharing in advanced mode?02:37
Lewixsurgy, now it is02:38
surgyok now apply02:38
Lewixsurgy, I did but I still dont see it02:39
surgyand make sure the folder you wish to share is in the list at the bottom02:39
linos2anyone know if a kdevelop channel exists?02:41
Lewixsurgy, nope...its not working02:41
surgyLewix: your missing something, go read about it, i just did it while i was telling you how to do it, and mine works02:41
surgyhow do i add a panel to the top of my desktop and then add widgets to it?02:42
Dr_willissamba can be a annoyance to enable the first time.02:43
ardchoillesurgy: in kde4?>02:43
surgyno in kde302:44
Dr_willisadd a new panel, start adding stuff.. :)02:44
surgyok02:44
ardchoillesurgy: right click the panel and choose "add new panel"02:44
Lewixi give up02:44
Lewixthanks for the help02:44
surgyi see it now, i just right click the main pannel02:44
Dr_willisLewix,  thats why i suggested the ssh/winscp at the start02:44
Dr_willisLewix,  you could enable samba manually, not using the gui also02:44
LewixDr_willis, ok go ahead..how would i do it02:45
Dr_williswhich part? ssh or samba? :)02:45
Lewixsamba02:45
Lewixi have already installed it02:45
mot_easy.02:45
mot_cd /etc/samba02:45
Dr_willislets see. do a 'sudo smbpasswd -a YOURUSERNAME'02:45
mot_nano smb.conf02:46
mot_scroll to the bottom02:46
Dr_willisto make a smb password for that user. Then you need to edit the smb.conf .02:46
Dr_willislike mot is saying02:46
mot_now, go to the bottom of smb.conf02:46
surgyi cant configure my panels seperatly? like i cant make the top one transparent?02:46
mot_put [sharename] (what do you want your share name to be?)02:46
killermach__anyone have a wireless cellular PC card working w/ kubuntu? or any links on info about this?02:47
* tidiman07 laughs02:47
Dr_willisI always just uncomment the Homes shares in the smb.conf file.02:47
mot_http://pastebin.com/m5fae830002:48
mot_yea, you can do that, too.02:48
mot_that works as well02:48
mot_check that pastebin, that is a default share template02:48
Jabapythhow do i access a locked file?02:48
Jabapyth*folder02:49
angasulekdesktop crashed and didn't come back, running kdesktop in a console crashes, help? :)02:51
craftigac19hola alguien habla espa;ol02:51
Lewixmot, unable to write to file02:51
Lewixwith kedit02:52
Dr_willisits a system wide config - you must use kdesu  kedit /path/to/the/file02:53
Lewixthanks02:54
Lewixok whats next02:54
angasule!es | craftigac1902:55
ubotucraftigac19: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.02:55
LewixDr_willis, modestymaster_02:56
Lewixmot,02:56
thomas_newbie__Hi. I am needing a little guidance to the right direction on what language whatever to use with my Apache server pages. I want people to be able to connect to my webpage. Create an account by entering their Username and Password and then submit. Then for them to be able to login. How do I go about this?02:56
Lewixlol02:57
Dr_willishttp://pastebin.com/ma6a2c3d  -- is my example smb.conf file - with the home shares enabled.02:57
Dr_willisYou just need to uncomment a few lines. (remove the ; at the front)02:57
Jabapyththomas_newbie__: you can use cgi or php for that, and youll definitely need html02:57
LewixDr_willis, i just have to copy/paste yours then02:58
nosrednaekimJabapyth: what kinda of locked folder? does sudo work?02:58
thomas_newbie__Jabapyth: what about asp?02:58
Dr_willisLewix,  thats one way. :)02:58
nosrednaekimthomas_newbie__: thats for microsoft web-server...02:58
Dr_willisassuming i dident mess  it up on this clean install. :P02:58
LewixDr_willis, ok done..whats next02:59
Dr_willisYou can restart the samba service. then see if the windows machines can see the Liniux box now.. you DID give the linux user a samba password?02:59
LewixDr_willis, yes i did03:00
Lewixhow do i restart the service03:00
Dr_williswindows machines 'should' be able to see the machine now. May not need to restart it.03:00
Dr_willisgo to the windows box and check out its network neighborhood03:00
thomas_newbie__nosrednaekim: yea. I heard apache can use it too? Would ASP VBSCRIPT be better or PHP?03:00
LewixDr_willis, nope03:00
nosrednaekimthomas_newbie__: PHP is better03:01
biovorephp > ASP03:01
Dr_willisLewix,  could do a ---> sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart03:01
thomas_newbie__asp=VBSCRIPT ?03:01
sts9can you have a kde-devel account with svn KDE 4 alongside  KDE 4 kubuntu packages for the other user.  I was building KDE 4 until it was released. Id like to continue to use the svn KDE 4 for the kde-devel user and just use the KDE 4 packages for my other user.  does that work?03:01
thomas_newbie__MORE OR LESS03:01
Dr_willisthat will restart samba. Some times windows can take some time to see the new shares/machines03:01
thomas_newbie__nosrednaekim: why is my School teaching me ASP instead of PHP :D03:02
LewixDr_willis, ok waiting03:02
biovorethomas_newbie__: because the have microsoft in the butt :-P03:02
Dr_willisdoh - I think i needed to make      browseable = no    be    browseable = yes  :)03:03
thomas_newbie__biovore: so apache servers never really use ASP normally?03:03
biovorethomas_newbie__: only on windows really..03:03
biovoreyou can get that stuff to work on linux.. but it is a major pain.. and it's slow03:03
thomas_newbie__biovore: what webservers run windows these days...AWwww I have a course teaching Server 2003.....SIGH03:04
biovore90% of the server market is linux/unix systems03:04
LewixDr_willis, not showing03:04
biovoreheck.. hotmail was running bsd untill a few years ago..03:04
sts9thomas_newbie__: because microsoft has a billion dollar marketing team to trick schools into teaching thier stuff.03:04
thomas_newbie__sts9: haha evil bastards03:05
Dr_willisLewix,  You could enter the name like //yourlinuxmachinename/yourusername  on the windows box also.03:05
Dr_willisNow ya know why i suggested doing the ssh/winscp copying since you just wanted a single file. :)03:05
sts9thomas_newbie__: and if your teachers really knew what the real world uses, they wouldnt be teachers. theyd be making $$$ in the server business.03:05
thomas_newbie__biovore: so lets say I wanted to use my Linux machine with APache to create a page to have a forum type thing with users can create accounts and using forms and post stuff, I would need to use HTML + PHP ???03:06
sts9thomas_newbie__: thats why they are teachers and not programmers / network admins03:06
biovoreyeah.. unix admins that are anygood. have jobs03:06
thomas_newbie__sts9: well I do have a Linux teacher03:07
LewixDr_willis, still not working03:07
Lewixi give up..thank you Dr_willis03:08
Lewixif the ssh/winscp takes a long time...forget it03:08
console_jockeyI've just installed kubuntu gutsy and have used aptitude to install firefox and kubuntu-restricted-extras.  For some reason I still don't appear to have flash working.  Suggestions?03:08
biovore!flash03:08
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash03:08
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.03:08
LewixDr_willis, how about the thing I was talking about from the beginning...sharing a folder on the web (properties-->sharing)..I set it up to be the port 8001 but it seems to only work on my computer03:09
jhutchinsLewix: Can you, for a moment, consider the potential I have to hack your system if you give me access to one folder?03:10
jhutchinsI mean, what if I edit ../../windows/sys32/registry?03:11
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thomas_newbie__biovore: am i right?03:11
jhutchinsI can let myself have full control of your system.03:11
biovoreright about what?03:11
Lewixjhutchins, i dont use windows03:11
Lewixand it does not matter for me03:12
LewixI just want to send this damn file03:12
jhutchinsLewix: Even worse.  I know where /etc/passwd is.03:12
Lewixjhutchins, good03:12
jhutchinsscp.03:12
Dr_willisLewix,  i dont use that feature. No idea on it. Thats just a nother way of enabling the samba shares as far as i know.,03:12
jhutchinsfish03:12
biovorethomas_newbie__: the apache thing yes..  you can do it with perl/python/c/php/asp    all these programs do is crate a html file to send to the user based on variables passed to it..03:12
Dr_willisLewix,  ive been saying ssh/winscp now for ages. :)03:13
Dr_willisIts highly possible its the windows firewall blocking things.03:13
LewixDr_willis, and i told you to go aheadd if it's not a long procedure03:13
biovorethomas_newbie__: all the forms and active content websites work that way..03:13
Lewixbiovore, how03:13
Dr_willisLewix,  i told it to you allready. :) install the open-ssh server on linux, install winscp on windows.. run winscp connect to linux box.03:13
Lewixhow?03:14
Lewixapt-get?03:14
Dr_willis!ssh03:14
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/03:14
Lewixhow on windows?03:14
Dr_willisInstall the ssh server with whatever tool you like.03:14
Dr_willis!find ssh03:14
ubotuFound: aolserver4-nssha1, autossh, clusterssh, crosshurd, dpsyco-ssh (and 28 others)03:14
Dr_willisGrr. whats its name03:14
Dr_willis!find openssh03:14
ubotuFound: openssh-client, openssh-server03:14
ardchoilleopen-sshd ?03:14
thomas_newbie__biovore: I'm reading an article saying that PHP has more security Vulnerabilties than the new ASP.NET03:14
Dr_willissudo apt-get install openssh-client openssh-server03:14
ardchoilleah, openssh-server03:14
Dr_willishttp://winscp.net/eng/index.php    for winscp03:15
jhutchinsLewix: 76.116.56.18003:15
LewixDr_willis, then03:16
LewixDr_willis, do you just mean a ssh client?03:16
Lewixthen what do i do03:16
jhutchinsComcast, so most of your usefull ports are blocked...03:16
Dr_willisLewix,  winscp is a ssh client for windows03:17
anonymous5929Hey, I'm sort of new to kde and was wondering if any one knows if there is a way to make dolphin (the new one for kde4 in particular) respect the single-click/double-click settings?03:17
jhutchinsanonymous5929: Yeah, it's configurable, but delphin is optional, not standard.03:17
LewixDr_willis, then i use my ip?03:17
Lewixto connect03:17
Dr_willisLewix,  ugh.. of course.. :) using any other ip.. wont do much good will it..03:18
Dr_willis:P03:18
Dr_willisor you may be able to use the linux box's hostname. perhaps not.. ip is best03:18
console_jockeytry man ssh03:18
jhutchinsLewix: Be patient, I will have control of your system in a moment and will be able to show you.03:18
Dr_willis:)03:18
Lewixjhutchins, ok...and yoou'll teach me how03:19
Dr_willisIm still not sure why smb:// wasent able to see the windows machines.03:19
Lewixgive me a username and a password03:19
Lewixjhutchins,03:19
jhutchinsLewix: well, yes, if I actualy manage it.  You figured out this OS community stuff, didn't you?03:19
Lewixjhutchins, is it your wireless router03:20
anonymous5929jhuthins, where can you configure it? I've been looking all day lol... the "mouse" settings in the "system settings" didn't help03:20
Dr_willisHmm.. wireless... i ve seen windows do some serious bliocking of wireless networks befor.03:20
console_jockeyquick question: what is the chief difference between using apt-get and aptitude when installing from cli vis vie apt-get install vs. aptitude insall03:21
sts9How do I remove KDE 4? now in kde3, kontact and such tries to open the kde 4 programs (ie: konqueror 4) and crashes03:21
jhutchinsAll 1697 scanned ports on c-76-116-56-180.hsd1.nj.comcast.net (76.116.56.180) are filtered03:22
Dr_willissts9,  fire up the package manager, search for kde4, start removing?03:22
sts9removing kde4libs wants to take out my whole system03:22
sts9no03:22
Dr_willisI removed it all on my other machine last week that way03:22
jhutchinslooks good on ya'.03:22
jhutchinsSorry, I'm still on 3.5.8.03:23
LewixDr_willis, it won't connect..i gave the ip03:23
Lewixmy username and password but nada03:23
jhutchinsanonymous5929: Sorry, I'm still on 3.5.8.03:23
anonymous5929oh ok, np. thanks though :) I'll keep looking03:24
jhutchinslate here, retiring.03:24
Lewixlol03:24
Lewixcase close I guess03:26
Lewixi tried everything03:26
Lewixbut apache03:26
Dr_willissee if your linux box can connect locally with 'ssh localhost'03:27
Dr_willisits sounding more and more like the windows box is blocking a lot of things03:27
Dr_willisbe right back.,03:29
thomas_newbie__biovore: thats weird I don't have LAMP in the Adept Manager03:29
LewixDr_willis, yes its working03:30
Dr_williswhat part. :P03:30
Dr_willisweve only tried 5 things03:31
fajrohi03:32
pierrethhi03:33
fajroHow can I rearrange the icons in the KDE4?03:33
fajroKDE it's so Gnome! :'-(03:34
pierrethI don't know, you should ask the KDE room03:34
LewixDr_willis, huh the ssh localhost03:34
Lewixmaybe i shouldnt put the username and password03:35
Lewixwhats sftp by the way03:35
Dr_willisLewix,  sftp is a way to transfer files with ssh. if winscp cant connect to the linux box.. You may want to check the ssh logs. Its possible the wndows box is blocking all sorts of things.03:35
Dr_willisyou could tyr just Pinging the linux box from the windows machine.03:36
Lewixnot working03:36
snarksterlater guys03:37
LewixDr_willis, when i ping it ..i have 100% loss03:39
Lewixok03:42
Lewixi think the best solution was apache03:42
Lewixwhich nobody elaborated03:42
Lewixthank you all for your help..there is days like that03:43
Lewixnothing works03:43
Dr_willisLewix,  if you cant even ping the linux box.. then its being totally blocked. I dont see how apache is going to do much of anything.03:52
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* Dr_willis checks to make sure he dident accidently ignore the whole channel again.04:14
AloneaDr_willis: *poke*04:14
utenlol04:14
utenwha gwaan04:14
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Dr_willis:P04:15
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* unix_infidel is quiet b/c he is jobless :-P04:19
unix_infidelapplying for jobs takes priority over irc :-)04:20
utenoh boy04:20
Dr_willisrepeate after me 'would you like fries with that?'04:21
Dr_willisrepeate after me 'would you like to ubersize that glutton bucket sir?'04:21
unix_infidelDr_willis: nah, that's the slogan of old.04:21
Dr_willisrepeate after me 'would you like extra frape with that moca-latte-de-facto-spasamato?'04:22
Dr_willis:)04:22
unix_infidelthe new paradigm is, would you like extra caramel with your nonfat, half cream, mocha frappe, carmel...04:22
unix_infidelshucks!04:22
unix_infidelbeat me to it :-)04:22
Dr_willis:P04:22
Dr_willisMy wife was going to try to get a Job at starbucks.. then relized.. she couldent read good enouhg to do the drinks.04:23
Dr_willisI just have coffee in my french press coffee pot.04:23
PeterPan^I dont remeber a distros name. Its 'something qemu' . used for virtualisation. running two os at a time. i cant remeber. i think its qaude qemu or something like that. any body has any clues? that is faster than simple qemu04:23
Dr_willisTry that disrtowatch web site.04:24
Dr_willisive never heard of a disrto that just ran qemu.04:24
* Dr_willis wonders how it could be faster...04:24
mkquisthey all will k3b convert mp3 to cda automatically?04:27
Dr_willisI think with the right plugins it will04:28
Dr_willisI think i saw that mentioned on the Kubuntu faq pages.. but its been a while04:28
jonathan_hello04:29
Dr_willis!find k3b04:31
ubotuFound: k3b, k3b-i18n, libk3b-dev, libk3b2, libk3b2-mp304:31
Dr_willisHowdy04:31
Dr_willismkquist,  i think that         libk3b2-mp3   is what you need.04:31
unix_infidelthere's a distro that runs on qemu.04:32
unix_infidelit's called dsl.04:32
unix_infidela 50mb distro that runs on any platform running a prebuilt / ready to go customized qemu.04:32
warpigwhat's qemu?04:33
unix_infidelgoogle it.04:33
Dr_willislots of disrtos can run on qemu :)04:34
utenunix_infidel: lol04:34
Dr_willisdsl can run on real machines also. :)04:34
unix_infidelDr_willis: right, but this is a specially distributed version of dsl meant to run on qemu.04:34
unix_infidelits like 60mb or something, small enough to run on your usb drive so you can run linux inside windows anywhere.04:35
Dr_willispuppylinux may have a tweaked version also.04:35
mkquistDr_willis: does that burn as mp3 or CDA if you happen to know?  Already installed it, but curious, or i'll just try a cd...04:35
Dr_willisburning as a mp3? would be just copying the data file to the cd..04:36
Dr_willisso i dont see the point of that. :) I think it converts mp3 to the right cd audio format to make an audio cd04:36
biovoremkquist: k3b can takes ogg and mp3 files and make a CDA cd..  basicly all it does is convert the mp3/ogg file into a wav file then burns it..04:36
mkquistDr_willis: so you think it's converting to something else?  cause thats kinda what i thought04:36
Dr_willisIt has to convert to the proper wav format befor making  the audio cd04:36
mkquistbiovore: ty, that answers it04:37
biovoremkquist: but it may not like mp3's with out all the mp3 decoder stuff..04:37
PeterPan_I dont remeber a distros name. Its 'something qemu' . used for virtualisation. running two os at a time. i cant remeber. i think its qaude qemu or something like that. any body has any clues? that is faster than simple qemu04:39
mkquisthmmm.... don't thinks it converting anythinh, thinks its just gonna burn it.... went to burn awful fast for any conversion... =/04:39
biovoremkquist: yeah.. there's 2 modes..  make sure its doing cda and not a data disk..04:42
biovoremkquist: I think you can make a playlist in amarok and then select Playlist | Burn to CD  I think that works too.. (I havn't tried it though)04:44
thomas_newbie__Help me lol I can't stop my Apache Webserver04:46
thomas_newbie__I know it's sudo /etc/init.d/apach2 stop....THAT DONT WORK04:47
mkquistnm.. lol works just fine by using k3b as new audio cd.. thanx all04:47
thomas_newbie__*apache04:47
Michael133got a question. I have dual monitors and I'm running Ubuntu 7.03 x86, (MSI) nVidia NX7100GS Video card, I installed the driver from the "Restricted Drivers Manager" and I see no controls allowing me to adjust settings for multiple monitors....04:48
biovorethomas_newbie__: ps ax | grep apache04:48
biovorethen kill manualy04:48
thomas_newbie__biovore: ok for some reason after installing php and mysql, apache instead of apache2 has took over... Starting apache2 doesn't work anymore lol...only apache04:51
biovoreno clue04:54
thomas_newbie__biovore: should I use apache or apache2?04:54
biovoreI use apache204:54
thomas_newbie__biovore: apache 1.3 that is04:54
biovorealll my webservers run 6.06 though..04:55
PeterPan_I dont remeber a distros name. Its 'something qemu' . used for virtualisation. running two os at a time. i cant remeber. i think its qaude qemu or something like that. any body has any clues? that is faster than simple qemu04:56
thomas_newbie__biovore: 6.06?04:56
biovoreqemu is a emulate..04:56
biovorethomas_newbie__: ubuntu 6.06 server edition..  LTS04:56
bmk789KDM is randomly restarting, what should i look for in what log?04:57
PeterPan_what is kqemu04:58
Dr_willis!info kqemu04:59
ubotuPackage kqemu does not exist in gutsy04:59
Dr_willisI was thinking  it was some tweaked thing for qemu. :P04:59
bmk789what would cause KDM to crash or restart?05:00
biovoreX being bad05:00
Dr_willisbmk789,  - x drivers05:00
biovoreor you login into kde and kde dies..05:00
Dr_willisbad X. no cookie.05:00
bmk789Dr_willis: no errors in Xorg.0.log05:00
Dr_willisIve had ATI drivers let me login, then crash once in kde.05:00
thomas_newbie__does anyone know how to change fromo apache 1.3 to apache2 if you have both installed?05:03
biovorethomas_newbie__: could try uninstalling 1 and purging the package..05:03
soyyodid anybody try KDE 4.0? I had installed it, but I can't setup the look & fell... it's really ugly! I mean, the taskbar and the icons are too big...05:03
biovoresudo apt-get remove apache05:04
burneris there a way to get a "search" bar like firefox has in konq 4?05:04
biovoresudo dpkg --purge apache05:04
thomas_newbie__biovore: whats purge do?05:04
burnerbiovore: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache works too05:04
biovoreburner: the URL bar works that way..  type in GG:<google search> and press enter05:04
burnerbiovore: but that sucks ;)05:04
burnerand i don't think gg worked in kde 4's konq for me05:05
biovoremight not be setup.. it's all configurable..05:05
* burner shrugs and just uses firefox in it's ugliness in kde405:05
burnerits even05:05
thomas_newbie__what does purge do?05:05
biovorewell kde4 is still in development really..  lots of bugs05:05
biovorethomas_newbie__: removes all the configurations and stuff the package put on the system..05:06
biovoreremoving the package just removes the binaries05:06
thomas_newbie__aw ok05:06
soyyoI thought that 4.0 was finished...05:07
biovorethey just got it to a point that it dosn't crash all the time..  inital release.. by no means ready for prime times.. probably won't be ready for another 6 months or so..05:08
adfhi05:08
adfI've met some trouble trying for ages to isntall flash video player05:08
adffor firefox05:08
biovore!flash05:08
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash05:08
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.05:08
soyyoI see, thanks biovore05:09
adfwhats a dapper and edgy backport05:09
adfthanks for the answer05:10
biovoreadf: the simplest way at this time is to grab the tarball for flash linux from abobe's site and put the .so file in it to ~/.mozila/plugins/05:10
biovoreadf: dapper is ubuntu 6.0605:10
biovoreadf: edgy is the version after dapper05:10
biovore!dapper05:10
ubotuUbuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.05:10
biovore!lts05:10
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.05:10
biovorelts is what you run on a server05:10
adfoh ok05:11
adfum05:11
biovorea backport means its something from the newest version of ubuntu that someone ported back to an older version..05:11
adfwhere can I find the location u stated05:11
adf~/.mozilla/plugins05:11
biovoreadf: its on adobe's site somewhere..05:11
adfhow canI reach  that place05:12
biovore~ <-- short for your home directory..05:12
biovoreopen a terminal and type  cd ~05:12
adfu said to get the tar.gz file ?05:12
biovoreyup..05:12
biovoreyou on 32bit or 64bit?05:12
adfso I need to go into konsole to do all this05:12
biovoreI ussualy do..05:12
biovore.mozila is a hidden directory..05:13
adfi386, is that 32 bit?05:13
biovoreyup05:13
biovoreshouldn't have problems really.. once you get the .so file in the tar archive into ~/.mozila/plugins/05:13
adf um bio05:14
adfI typed it05:14
adfand in konsole it says command not found05:14
biovore"cd ~"05:14
adfI typed cd ~05:14
biovorehmm doing something wrong then..05:14
biovore~ should be /home/<username>/05:15
adfI tried before going into Adept and seraching for a flash player for mozilla there, but no effect05:16
adfhey bio how do I archive the so. file?05:17
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biovore?05:17
biovore!flash05:17
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash05:17
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.05:17
biovore^ its all in there somewhere05:17
adfu said to archive the .so file to mozilla/plugins05:18
biovorethe tar.gz file is a archive.. like a zipfile05:18
adfyeah05:18
adfbut once u double click on the tar file u download05:18
adfu can see the .so file05:18
biovorein the archive there should be a installer thing and .so file05:18
adfwhat do I do with that?05:18
adfyeah I'm at that page right now05:19
biovorecopy the .so file to /home/<username>/.mozila/plugins/  (I think)05:19
adfis kubuntu kind of like windows in terms of finding folders and copying and pasting?05:20
geniiadf: Somewhat. ctrl-c and ctrl-v work for instance05:20
biovoreI think konqueror will work that same way05:20
adfhow do I find home/<username>/.mozila/plugins/05:21
biovorein the url bar type it05:21
adfoh ok in firefox05:21
biovoreno05:21
adfthen in what05:21
biovorekonqueror05:21
adfkonquere?05:21
sigma_1234mozilla has 2 l's05:21
biovorefirefox isn't a filemanager05:21
biovoreyeah.. mozilla dose have 2 l's in it..05:22
adfwhats the link I type in konquerer again pls?05:22
sigma_1234is adobe reader programmed in qt?05:23
geniiSomething like ~/.mozilla/plugins05:23
biovoresigma_1234: not sure..05:23
biovoresigma_1234: does look that way..05:23
biovoresigma_1234: I think kpdf is better then adobe's thing05:23
sigma_1234i know skype is. i hate gtk apps. think the only one im forced to use is the gimp05:24
thomas_newbie__yea I can't startup apache205:24
nixternaladobe products are qt (some if not most now)05:24
nixternalso is nero05:24
biovorexilinx ISE is QT205:25
soyyowell, I had some troubles with kpdf trying to render some math papers... but adobe acrobat did that fine05:25
adfsry I'm really stuck05:25
adfcan u explains what I am meant to do with the tar file again?05:25
adflike tell me how to find and copy and paste whatever05:26
nixternaladf: a tar file is the same as a zip file05:26
burneradf: double-click it so it opens with ark05:26
adfyeah it did05:26
sigma_1234biovore: i like kpdf. but it doesnt let you fill data into a form in a pdf. i need it to complete my tax return. only acrobat 8.1 supports that05:26
geniiActually I think plugins go in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/        and extensions go in somewhere like ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/extensions05:26
Dr_willis!info unp05:26
ubotuunp (source: unp): unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12 (gutsy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB05:26
Dr_willis:)05:26
Dr_willisunp foobar.tar.gz05:26
biovoresigma_1234: yeah forms are adobe only thing..05:26
burnerooh, unp is neat05:27
biovoreyou can scrible on pdf's in kpdf but I don't think that works for that application..05:27
adfok05:27
hydrogennixternal: well, to be technical, a tar file is simply an archive, where a zip is a compressed archive05:27
adfso after I open it with ark I.............05:27
biovoretar -- tape archive..05:27
nixternalya, forgot the .gz or .bz2 on that05:27
biovorethe gz/bz2 is the compression05:27
adfanyone??!05:28
burneradf: what did you download?05:28
burneradf: and what are you hoping to accomplish?05:28
adfthe tar.gz from adobes site05:28
adfto install flash player in firefox in kubuntu05:28
burnerfor flash?05:28
adfyes !05:28
adfflash05:28
adfflash player05:28
burnerput libflashplayer.so in ~/.mozilla/plugins05:28
adfi.e. youtube videos05:28
Dr_willisthe !flash info has links to updated testing deb packages that work.05:28
Dr_willisive been using them on several systems05:29
Dr_willis!flash05:29
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash05:29
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.05:29
Dr_willisthe 2nd bot factoid has some links05:29
sigma_1234yeah i think our tax guys extract the values directly. but one sad this is that i cant use it with konqueror properly. it opens up the webform pdf but wont let me enter data into it. only firefox lets me enter data into the forms05:30
adfso the first link is useless? and the 2nd factoid says there is a broken thing...?05:30
burnershitty about flash, i hate binary, proprietary folk that change their stuff on a whim05:30
adfwtf05:30
Dr_willisread the info.. :)  but the link to find in the thread is a bit hidden.05:30
Dr_willishttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/10761023/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_i386.deb05:30
burneradf: just put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins and restart your browser and bask in teh flashy goodness05:30
Dr_willisis what ive been using..05:30
adfon the 2nd link u gave me it refers to bugs with the player05:31
adfbut05:31
Dr_willisHOWEVER - I think flash in konqueror is still broken.05:31
burner /usr/share/mozilla/plugins for system wide instead of just for that user05:31
adfI dont even have the flash player anywhere installed!05:31
biovoreDr_willis: works here most of the time.. crashes every one and then though..05:31
burneradf: doesn't matter... just use that .so file in the plugins folder and your'e good to go05:31
adfthats the question I asked minutes ago with no answers so far...05:32
adfwhat exactly do I do with the so. fike?05:32
adffile*05:32
sigma_1234Dr_willis: doesnt konq use the firefox flash plugin?05:32
soyyoadf: just copy it and paste it into ~/.mozilla/plugins05:32
Dr_williswget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10761023/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_i386.deb05:32
Dr_willissudo dpkg -i flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_i386.deb05:32
biovoreadf: you put it put libflashplayer.so in ~/.mozilla/plugins05:32
adfI know05:33
Dr_willisis one way > :) biovore 's is another way.05:33
adfI was told that before05:33
adfbut how do I even find ~/.mozilla/plugins?05:33
Dr_willissigma_1234,  supposiubly. but theres some odd issues going on with konq. i hear.05:33
Dr_willisadf,  thats in your users home dir.05:33
biovore~ is you home directory..05:33
adfso am I meant to replace ~ with something?05:33
biovore~ = /home/<your username>/05:33
biovoreyou can05:33
biovoreis short hand05:33
biovorefor you home directory05:33
Dr_willisbash basics... try 'cd /'05:33
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Dr_willisthen 'cd ~'05:34
Dr_willisthat will take you home.05:34
Dr_willis:)05:34
soyyoadf: start dolphin05:34
sigma_1234hopefully they will be fixed in kde 4.105:34
ardchoillecd alone will take you home :)05:34
adfreally confused about the above instructions...05:34
adfwhat does you can mean?05:34
adflike am I meant to replace it05:35
adfor do I leave ~ as is05:35
sigma_1234what is the linux alternative to cd.. in msdos?05:35
ardchoilleadf: ~ = /home/<user name>05:35
geniiardchoille: Bet me to it :)05:35
genii*beat05:35
* genii sips his coffee05:36
biovoresigma_1234: is cd in dos as well :-P05:36
burneradf: if you type ~ it works as well as typing /home/<username> as ardchoille suggests05:36
biovoreso copy it to /home/username/.mozilla/plugins/05:36
geniibiovore:  Actually I think plugins go in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/        and extensions go in somewhere like ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/extensions05:37
surgyis there a way i can share a single program with a single set of everything acrossed two accounts, for two completely different users?05:37
surgyi want to share cedega with all of its installed games with another user, without having to install all the games twice05:38
soyyoadf: you have to copy the libflashplayer.so file into the /.mozilla/plugins directory -whitch is placed in your home directory- in order to firefox be able to plat flash05:38
geniisigma_1234: sma but with space between cd and ..05:38
geniisigma_1234: Same but with space between cd and ..05:38
geniidamn typos tonight05:38
sigma_1234biovore: no i meant how do i cd.. (exit current directory) in linux? i tried it and it said invalid command05:39
biovoreyeah cd<space>~05:39
biovorecd is a program.. followed by a space and arguments05:39
surgyanyone wanna take a stab at my problem?05:39
sigma_1234genii: thanks. il try that05:39
ethan961"cd .."05:40
cn28hsigma_1234, cd .., you need the space (unlike in dos).  You also can't do stuff like cd... you have to cd ../..05:40
sigma_1234!ask05:40
ubotuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)05:40
adfin the future, please give specific instructions, for example you told me to go to ~ etc where I didnt know what ~ is meant to be so I just wrote ~ and it doesnt work05:40
adfI am very noob and linux05:40
cn28h~ expands to your home directory05:40
cn28hecho ~05:40
adfsry05:40
soyyosurgy: may be installing it into a public place, like /tmp?05:40
ardchoilleadf: This should work:  cd ~05:40
surgysoyyo, umm no that wont help05:41
adfbut I am getting very annoyed by my inability here05:41
sigma_1234adf: lol give us a break. not like we get paid to provide support05:41
adfyeah I know05:41
adfsry05:41
Dr_willissurgy,  use links, ln -s05:41
adfbut yeah05:41
adfthanks05:41
adfI am grately05:41
adfgrateful05:41
biovorehttp://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/ <-- crash course on linux05:41
cn28hbrb, new kernel time05:41
Dr_willisSpending an Hr. reading some Bash basics will pay you BIG time adf05:42
biovoretldp -- The Linux Documentation Project05:42
ardchoille!terminal | adf You should also read this info when you have a chance05:42
ubotuadf You should also read this info when you have a chance: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal05:42
soyyoadf: could you open the tar file in ark?05:42
surgyDr_willis: ok what i want to do is let another user on another account play a game that is onn my account on my username, but it requires a specific command to a specific folder that only this user may access, how whould i link that? btw the command is, "cedega --run Dot\ TransGaming Pirates\!"05:43
Dr_willissurgy,  set the permissions   more open05:43
Dr_willislet the otther users have full permissions to that dir. and link it to their .cedega or whatever dir.05:44
adfum05:44
sigma_1234i found some great debian training manuals at one of mark shuttleworths sites. and now im finally seeing the light. with linux unlike windows its good to know whats happening behind the gui05:44
adfback to the original topic05:44
adfcd ~ takes me to strigi desktop search05:44
adfis that correct/05:44
biovoreadf: do it in a shell05:44
adfok05:44
ardchoilleadf: Are you doing this in a terminal?05:44
* biovore smacks head..05:44
surgyDr_willis: you know how cedega works right? it sets local settings for particular games, and none of the games are showing up in cedega on the other user, therefore it isnt letting the other user access the game or the specific settings for that game, so i need to make it so that both users share the same cedega and the same cedega files instead of having different sets05:45
adfI wasnt05:45
adfdidnt u tell me to do it in Konquerer05:45
adfam I meant to just type cd ~05:45
Dr_williswget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10761023/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_i386.deb  && sudo dpkg -i flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_i386.deb05:45
biovoreyou can do the file copy in konqueror.. but you have to know what your doing first..05:45
adflike exactly cd ~05:45
biovoreor do willis way05:45
sigma_1234why is there no gui to add new users to a system?05:45
Dr_willisadf,  No. the KONSOLE is the terminal,  Konqueror is the file manager.05:45
adfI know that05:45
Dr_willissigma_1234,  i thought there was.05:46
ardchoilleadf: in a terminal, this command takes you to your home directory:  cd ~05:46
adfI thought biovore told me to do it in konquerer05:46
adfoh ok......thanks for that ard05:46
aleksanterisigma_1234: there is kuser05:46
biovorewell in the url you can put ~ in konqueror and it will take you to your home directory05:46
adfnothing happens05:46
adfit just goes into a new line with what was there before05:46
ardchoilleadf: Now type: pwd05:46
Dr_willisit worked... :)05:46
biovoreprobably because your already at your home directory?05:47
adfwtf05:47
adfI type ~ in konquere05:47
adfand after liek 1 second it turns into strigi05:47
adfby itself05:47
adfin the address bar05:47
Dr_willisbecause o you are triggering the search feature of the file manager.05:47
biovoretakes me to /home/<usrname> here when I put "~' in the url bar on kde305:47
Dr_willisstrigi - acts real real... weird for me at times under kde.05:48
surgyDr_willis: is there not a way that i can make cedega usuable by every user, instead of every user having there own cedega?05:48
hydrogenI absolutely hate all off these search utilities05:48
biovoresame..05:48
aleksanterifind / -name ftw05:48
thomas_newbie__can someone help me I can't start my apache server and get to the default page with localhost05:49
Dr_willissurgy,  take the cedga dir. make it readable/writeable by everyone. they can then have full access to it.05:49
aleksanterithomas_newbie__, #apache05:49
thomas_newbie__i just uninstalled apache 1.3 and reinstalled apache205:49
Dr_willissurgy,  then link that dir to the users ~/,cedga  (or whatever) dir05:49
surgyDr_willis so i need to delete the old .cedega folder on the other user and then make a new symlinked one?05:50
Dr_willissurgy,  yes basicially.05:50
surgyDr_willis: and i right clicked it and checked the permissions on it and all the permissions are on for everyone05:51
surgyok how do i symlink it :)05:51
soyyoI think adf would be more confortable using only dolphin or konqueror... konsole may result confusig for new users05:51
Dr_willissurgy,  every file In that dir needs to be read/writeable also.  -  'ln -s' is the command to make soft links.05:51
surgyand if the user that has the original cedega isnt signed on then can the user with the symlink still use it?05:51
* Dr_willis finds the 'click here, clack there, drag over there' now open 3 windows and do a backflip... confusing.05:52
Dr_willissurgy,  signed on? users being logged in or not have nothing to do with file permissions.05:52
ardchoilleDr_willis: What happens if one of those users accidentally happens to "rm ~/.cedega/*" ?05:52
Dr_willisardchoille,  Yep. thats an issue.05:52
biovorethere nubbed05:52
Dr_willisardchoille,  or what if 2 users run the same program at the same time and it starts 2 updates...05:53
ardchoille:)05:53
ardchoilleThis is the reason for sepearting user accounts ;)05:53
Dr_willisI dont know what surgy  is really trying to do. :P some sort of Voo-Doo I guess05:53
surgyDr_willis: can you give me an example of ln -s using Dot transgaming as the file needing to be symlinked?05:54
Dr_willisln -s thisthing thatthing05:54
Dr_willisYou need to link the whome .whatever dir05:54
surgyok i still dont understand05:54
surgyi dont even know how this is going to work05:54
Dr_willisln -s THIS/Silly/Path/dir   /this/other/silly/path/dir05:55
adfok05:55
Dr_willispractice a little with ln -s, and see05:55
Dr_willismkdir foo05:55
adfwhat do I do after I type "cd ~" in konsole?05:55
Dr_willisln -s bar foo05:55
adfcd ~05:55
surgyno that wont work, the directory tree is too big and complicated i whould have to symlink everything inside right?05:56
Dr_willissurgy,  NO... You do the FIRST dir as the link05:56
adfplease help05:56
Dr_willisln -s .cedega  /home/whatever/.cedega05:56
Dr_willisor whatever its called.05:56
surgyDr_willis: ok05:56
Dr_willisI mayt have that back3wards05:56
adfI typed cd ~ in console05:56
adfand whats next05:56
biovorewhat does pwd say05:57
surgyso if i were to use the command "ln -s bar foo" it whould make a symlink to bar called foo?05:57
biovore(type pwd in the console)05:57
adfwhatis the location I extract the .so file to?05:57
Dr_willissurgy,  or the other way. :) I always get it backwards05:57
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cn28hAnyone here have problems with no sound in tvtime on Gutsy? I can't figure out what's going on.  It seems to be a problem with the OSS mixer device it's using :/05:57
Dr_willissurgy,  try it and see.05:57
biovoreadf: if you in your home directory it will be .mozilla/plugins/05:57
adfI think its .mozilla/firefox/plugins/05:57
adfright?05:57
biovoreyes05:58
surgyDr_willis: gonna make me teach my self? lol i see how you are05:58
Dr_willissurgy,  man ln05:58
Dr_willis:P05:58
surgyDr_willis: but i still dont even know what a sym link is05:58
biovoresurgy: thats how we all learned05:59
adfI extracted the .so file to /username/mozilla/firefox/plugins05:59
Dr_willissurgy,  a feature of the filesystem that lets you have things appear elseware05:59
adfand it said create new folder?05:59
adfI clicked yes05:59
adfbut its not working05:59
biovorenope.. got the wrong directory then05:59
biovore.   /home/username05:59
surgycan i use directories in the "ln -s" command?05:59
Dr_willissurgy,  of course.05:59
Dr_willisive been saying that all along. :)05:59
adfI did05:59
adfthe place is06:00
bazhanghttp://www.ss64.com/bash/ surgy06:00
biovoreadf: restart firefox?06:00
adfnope, that doesnt work either06:00
adfthe destination folder extrected to is06:00
Dr_willisln -s /some/name spud    # creates link ./spud pointing to /some/name06:00
adfhome/adf06:01
adf.mozilla06:01
adfplugins06:01
biovoreadf: on my box here I have that .so file in ~/.mozilla/plugins/06:02
biovorethen flash should work on konqueror and firefox06:02
TheWhiteRookdoes anyone know if one could get the menu editor in KDE 4 working?06:03
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adfmmm...06:04
biovoreTheWhiteRook: no clue.. its broken for me as well06:04
adflet me try again06:04
adfso its extract to right?06:04
TheWhiteRookmmm06:04
adfI right click the .so file and extract?06:04
biovorebasicly.. it will work when you get the .so file in the right place..  On my computer here I have it in /home/username/.mozilla/plugins/06:04
j_biovore what are you talking about06:05
biovoreflash06:05
j_cool06:05
adfmmm06:06
adfbtw I'm doing this in ark06:06
genii__j_: I'm wondering the same thing since koq and mozilla don't even use the same kind of plugin system as well as mozilla plugins are in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/06:06
biovoreadf: I did it all on the command line here..06:07
genii__*konq06:07
adfso can I do that also06:07
biovoregenii__: it works here..06:07
adfdo it here?06:07
burnerwow06:07
biovoreadf: yes..  where is the tar file on your harddisk?06:07
biovoreI watch youtube all the time with konqueror06:07
adfnope06:08
adfum06:08
adfits on destop currently06:08
adfthats where I dl it to06:08
adfbut then I open it with ark06:08
j_how did you do it i cant get konq to work likr that06:08
j_like06:08
biovoreok.. so open a terminal, cd ~, cd Desktop, ls06:08
adfand then right click to extract it to where u told me06:08
biovoredo you see the tar file there?06:08
surgyDr_willis: man that isnt working06:09
Dr_williswhat part isent.06:09
j_me06:09
adfit says no such file or directory06:09
biovorecd ~06:10
biovorepwd06:10
biovoredoes it say /home/username ?06:10
burnerlol06:10
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surgyDr_willis: well i made a symlink deleted the old file replaced it with the symlink, and then opened the symlink and it had the same contents as though i had open the file in the first place without even doing anything06:10
adfwell its meant to start with username@pcname right?06:10
biovore?06:10
adfok06:11
adfwhen u open konsole06:11
Dr_willissurgy,  use ls -l, be sure you dident get the ln -s options/target/source backwards06:11
biovoreyes.. thats call a prompt..06:11
surgyDr_willis: your sepaking french, mind clarifying?06:11
Dr_willissurgy,  when you make a proper link. it will appear as if the file/dir is in the new location AND the old one.06:11
Dr_willis mkdir foo06:11
Dr_willisln -s bar foo06:11
Dr_williscd bar06:11
Dr_williswill be in foo...06:11
TheWhiteRookfoo!06:12
Dr_willismkdir foo06:12
Dr_williswillis@mint:~$ touch foo/this_is_foo06:12
TheWhiteRookI remember that from the command line tutorials :P...06:12
Dr_willis ln -s  foo bar06:12
TheWhiteRookit amused me much06:12
Dr_willisls bar --->   this_is_foo06:13
Dr_willis:)06:13
adfI typed: cd (space)~ space fullstop space cd space desktop fullstop space IS06:13
surgyDr_willis: you just confused me more06:13
Dr_willisadf,  its 'Desktop' not 'desktop'06:13
burneradf: can i give you 3 or 4 simple commands to get flash installed?06:13
Dr_willissurgy,  make some dirs. play with ln -s06:13
biovorecd ~ <enter button>cd Desktop<enter button>ls<enter button>06:13
surgyDr_willis: so when you make a symlink it makes it inside the directory you are trying to link?06:13
burnerwget http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz06:13
burnertar xvfz flashplayer9_install_linux_061107.tar.gz06:13
burnermv ./install_flash_player_9_linux/libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/06:13
Dr_willissurgy,  thats the definition of a link.. its the other stuff with a new name.06:14
burneraw damn, the second command is all b0rked and doesnt' referecne the right .tar.gz :\06:14
adfcd ~ doesnt do anything06:14
foibleshttp://www.softwarereality.com/gp2x.jsp06:14
Dr_willissurgy,  example ----->    ln -s /media/ MyMedia06:14
foiblesdid anyone know this existed?06:14
foiblesim simply amazed06:14
geniiOr same name but in different location06:14
biovoreadf: yes.. shouldn't say anything..06:14
adfthe next line still starts with username@computerma,e:~$06:14
Dr_willissurgy,  now ya got a MyMedia dir that is a link to /media06:14
Dr_willisadf,  thats how cd ~ works.06:15
biovoreadf: at that prompt type "cd Desktop"06:15
surgyDr_willis: ok i got that part06:15
Dr_willisadf,  that command makes SURE you are in your home dir.06:15
biovoreadf: prompt should show username@computer:Desktop$06:15
biovorenow06:15
adfoh ok06:15
adfit doesnt06:15
biovoretype pwd.. what does it say?06:15
adfit shows name@pcname: ~$06:15
surgyand my symlink looks good06:16
adfpwd command not found06:16
Dr_willissurgy,  check the ownership of them.06:16
biovorepwd <enter>  ?06:16
adfoh lol06:16
adfwait06:16
adfum06:16
adfafter I type pwd06:16
adfthe next line says /home/username06:16
biovorepwd is short for "Print Working Directory" FYI06:16
adfand then goes into a new line06:16
biovoreok.. your are in your home directory then06:17
adfsaying username@computernameL ~$06:17
surgyDr_willis: so to copy the symlink from here to there it whould be "cp /home/surgy/.cedega/Dot\ TransGaming\c_drive1 /home/penguin" and that whould copy it from here to "/home/penguin" right?06:17
adfok good06:17
adfthanks06:17
biovorenow type "cd Desktop<enter button>"06:17
adffinally06:17
adfthis one works06:17
adf^06:17
biovoreand type pwd again..  should show "/home/username/Desktop"06:17
adfyep!06:17
biovoreok..06:17
biovorenow type ls06:18
adffinally I'm off from where I was 3 hrs ago06:18
Dr_willissurgy,  ive never said anything about using copy. ;)06:18
adfu mean Is06:18
adfas in he is good06:18
biovoreyes ls06:18
adfor one s06:18
biovorelima Serira06:18
biovoreLS06:18
adfLS06:18
adfand IS06:18
Dr_willissurgy,   ln -s  /home/surgy/.cedega/Dot\ TransGaming\c_drive1  /home/penguin06:18
adfdont work06:18
surgyDr_willis: yeah but now that i have my link made i need to sopy it to its propper location right?06:18
biovorel <-- its a lower case L06:18
biovorels06:18
burnerLS, but lowercase ;)06:18
Dr_willissurgy,  No... you make the link in the proper place.06:18
burnerwow06:19
surgyDr_willis: ahh06:19
biovorels -- list directory06:19
adfoh ok06:19
adflol06:19
surgyDr_willis: ok ok06:19
adfI need to type both L AND ALSO S in lowercase06:19
biovoreyes..06:19
biovore'ls'06:19
geniisurgy: Copying symbolic links can be problemmatic especially if they are relative links06:19
adfI thought u meant "is"06:19
surgybut sense im moveing from one user to another i need to be using sudo right?06:19
burneradf: does it show your .tar.gz of flash player and a directory named the same thing?06:19
adflike this is unbuntu06:19
biovoreyeah i and l looks like06:19
adfum06:19
adfthe file name for the tar gz file06:20
adfis what it shows06:20
biovoreadf: ok good06:20
biovoreadf: now type tar -xvzf <tar filename>  <press enter>06:20
burnertype "tar xvfz install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz"06:20
burneraww, biovore beat me to it06:20
Dr_willissurgy,  No.. if the permissions are set wide open.. then any user can read/write to the dir.06:21
adffz06:21
adfor zf06:21
burnerdoesn't matter06:21
biovoredosn't matter06:21
Dr_willissurgy,  if you were using sudo, you could switch TO that one user and run the apps.   but you never said you wanted to do that.06:21
biovorethere command arguments06:21
burnerthey're even06:21
biovoreadf: x -- extract v -- verbose f -- force  z-- un gunzip06:21
adfok06:22
burnerthen "cd install_flash_player_9_linux" and press enter06:22
adf3 lines came up06:22
biovoreok06:22
* Dr_willis thinks the Ubuntu default desktop needs some links to some bash and linux basics that wont stop popping up , untill the user passes some basic tests. :)06:22
biovorewhat burner said06:22
Dr_willisThat would be... amuseing.06:22
genii-f more often means "filename" eg: tar xvf name06:22
adfyeah06:22
adfok06:22
surgyDr_willis: ln: creating symbolic link `/home/penguin/Dot Transgaming' to `c_drive': File exists            does that mean the file allready exists?06:23
adfI typed all u said to type06:23
burnerok, one more command06:23
burnermv ./install_flash_player_9_linux/libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/06:23
Dr_willissurgy,  you may have the order of the  "from" and "to" locations backwards.. I alwyas get them backwards.06:23
burneradf: if it says ~/.mozilla/plugins doesn't exist...06:23
Dr_willis surgy  and if any spaces are in the paths.. that can mess things up also.06:23
biovoreburner: I think hes in install_flash06:23
adfis .so and ~ connected?06:24
burnerwell crap06:24
Dr_willis /home/surgy/.cedega/Dot\ TransGaming\c_drive1  NOTE THE space..  '\  '06:24
surgyDr_willis: there are spaces but im canceling them with "\"06:24
burneradf: i lied06:24
adf?06:24
Dr_willisspaces are bad. You need to quote the whole argument06:24
burnermv libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/06:24
biovoreadf: we used the ~ because its quicker then saying /home/<username>/06:24
burnerand the .so and ~ are not connected, there is a space06:24
Dr_willis'/home/surgy/.cedega/Dot TransGaming\c_drive1'  NOTE THE space..  '\  '06:24
adfoh ok06:24
Dr_willisoops :)06:24
adflol06:24
Dr_willis'/home/surgy/.cedega/Dot TransGaming\c_drive1'06:24
adfso thats wha ~ means06:24
burnerit says move the .so (your plugin) file to your home folders' .mozilla/plugins06:24
Dr_willis~ is an alias for the users home directory.06:24
adf?06:25
biovoreadf: also could use $HOME as well06:25
adfit says try "mv --help for more info06:25
biovoreprobably missing a space..  argument 1 being the .so file <space> /home/username/.mozilla/plugins/06:26
Dr_willisThis is when it pays to use a Ugly MONOspaced font on irc. :)06:26
adfoh ok06:26
adfthat must be it06:26
surgyDr_willis: ok everything went as planned but the "c_drive" link is showing up as red in the ls tree and it is not showing up as a directory how di ii screw up?06:26
Dr_willissurgy,  your first ln command made a bad link06:27
surgythis is my most recent ln command06:27
geniiYou made a link called "c_drive" which points to a nonexistent location and that is why it's red06:27
Dr_willis  --> /home/surgy/.cedega/Dot TransGaming\c_drive1           made a bad link by mistake. delete it :)06:27
burnercedega?  doesn't wine pretty much do everything cedega does these days?06:28
surgyok whats the command to delete?06:28
biovoredirect 9 is sligtly better in cedega06:28
Dr_willisI dont mess with either one. :)06:28
biovorerm <-- delete06:28
geniisurgy rm06:28
adfum06:28
adfit goes back to what it was like before06:28
adfno effect06:28
biovorewhat does what?06:29
burneradf: close your browser and open it to veoh.com or some flash site06:30
surgyman im getting so frustrated06:30
adfum06:30
biovoreburner: I don't think the mv worked..06:30
surgyit says it exsists so i get all excited and then cd to the penguin dir and what do you know....... it doesnt.06:30
burnerno?06:30
* burner shrugs06:30
adfit says mv: missing destination file operand after ................06:30
biovoreadf: pwd shows what?06:30
adfeverything up to install_flash_player_9_linux$06:31
burneradf: does "ls" show an .so file?06:31
adfls shows flashplayer-installer06:31
adfso...06:31
burnerbut no .so file right?06:31
adfnope06:32
burnerso you moved it06:32
adfjust what I said ^06:32
burnerso close your browser06:32
burnerand open it06:32
burnerand bask in the glory that is flash06:32
biovorecan also check in konqueror so see if it sees it.. (it should)06:32
dedifile permissions in /var got resetted after reboot, how can i fit this?06:32
geniidedi: You are referring to the /var/run/screen file needing to be 777 again to use "screen" command as normal user?06:33
biovoreanyway.. I am going to bed..06:33
adfYEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:33
adfOMG06:33
geniidedi: As per your remarks in #ubuntu?06:33
adfIT FINALLY WORKED06:33
adfTHANK YOU BIOVORE AND BURNER06:34
dedigenii: yeah, its also with slocate06:34
adfand other I may have missed that helped me06:34
adfI was soo angry 1 hour ago06:34
surgyok now i know i did everything right06:34
biovoreadf: learn CLI.. this is technicaly a 5 sec job :-P06:34
adfcos the instructions I got here were relaly confusing and intermittent06:34
surgyi evenn testted it on another file, and it still didnt work, still red, still messed up......................06:34
adfwhats CLI06:34
biovore!CLI06:34
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal06:34
burneradf: for the record, flash is usually really really easy, but adobe broke it lately06:34
biovoreadf: what you just used06:34
geniidedi: I already explained to you that if you do not run "screen" or "updatedb" with sudo it needs a file to use which the regular username has the rights on06:34
biovoreadf: you can do everything from there06:34
adfthats like learning dos06:35
adfI wll try to get a book on it06:35
biovoreadf: its dos on crack..06:35
adfoh ok06:35
surgywaisting my time06:35
biovoreadf: dos is stupid simple compared..06:35
adfafter like literally 3 hours of asking for help here coninusouly06:35
surgylaterz guy and thnx for the help, but a game is not worth this06:35
adfwe got it to work06:35
surgybye06:35
adfthanks06:35
adfbtw06:35
biovoreadf: the gui stuff is just front ends to the command line stuff..06:35
adfoh right06:35
biovoreadf: gui only does some things.. command line can do everything..06:36
adfbut in windows u never have to use dos06:36
adfatleast I dont anyways06:36
dedigenii: i know how the file permissions have to be set. the problem is that they are resettet after a reboot06:36
burneryou don't have to use this in kubuntu either06:36
biovoreadf: yes.. but in linux. especialy the server world, a gui is a liability..06:36
burnerit's just easier to explain the "dos" or "cli" way via irc than it is to explain where to move your mouse06:36
dedigenii: sorry for overseeing your first answer, my highlighting is buggy here06:36
biovoreadf: google on bash06:37
geniidedi: use: sudo screen     or: sudo updatedb                     instead06:37
burnerbiovore: run google earth on your precious cli :P06:37
adfwhen someone said bash linux06:37
* burner is a desktop guy through and through and does not think we'll win converts by encouraging cli06:37
adfI thought he/she meant stuff the basics and go on to something else06:37
adfI mean bash basics06:37
dedigenii: i have to use sudo locate ... so i need a real fix06:37
biovoreburner: blah.. how needs google earth.. when I can get realtime weather fax via HF radio :-P06:37
adfnot bash linux06:37
geniidedi: no, just suo on the updatdb    you can use regular user on the locate06:38
burnerdedi: or use tracker instead of locate :P06:38
burnerer... strigi... forgot i was in #kubuntu ;)06:39
dedigenii: thats the problem, i cant use locate as regular user06:39
geniidedi: Regular users can "locate" files after the updatedb is done with sudo06:39
adfhow come I typed CD ~ on konquerer it goes to strigi desktop search06:39
dedigenii: as i say there is something bugged :>06:39
biovoreCD isn't a konqueror thing..06:39
Dr_willisadf,  because you typed a search phrase that tiggered strigi06:40
dedilocate: fatal error: search_db: open: '/var/lib/slocate/slocate.db': Permission denied06:40
biovoreadf: the URL wourld be just ~06:40
Dr_willis!info strigi06:40
dedisudo updatedb works, locate still not. i can set the file permissions of slocate.db, but its gone after the reboot06:40
biovorestrigi is just a ignoring desktop search thing..06:40
ubotuPackage strigi does not exist in gutsy06:40
geniidedi: try then: sudo apt-get remove --purge slocate; sudo apt-get install slocate; sudo updatedb06:43
geniidedi: they try locate  again with regular username06:44
dedigenii: yeah thats a try i didnt tried yet :)06:44
dbmoodbhello i'm getting a problem when i print from my *buntu computers running 7.10. debian etch, windows xp can print. I have added cups to aa-complain. buti still get a Can not get the ticket cache for -- this is a samsung printer using their drivers over a network the server is a samba server06:46
geniidedi: Alternately you can also whatever username to the group slocate with: sudo usermod -G -a slocate <usernamehere>06:46
dedigenii: thanks that workaround helped, i seems also with screen06:48
dedibut its a bit dirty anyway :D06:48
geniiyes06:48
dbmoodb so...06:48
dedijust wonder why file permissions in /var get resettet, but not completly ( i messed owner rights up in /var, buf fixed them again, but this stuff didnt got resetted)06:50
geniidbmoodb: Did you look here yet http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58007106:52
dbmoodbmaybe...06:52
dbmoodbi'm not sure it is crashing06:52
dbmoodblook like my problem06:53
dbmoodbwait no they don't have the solution they just say use tcp....06:53
dbmoodbi'm not using ipp i think06:54
dbmoodbi'm just telling cups to print to smb://192.168.0.blah/blah06:54
xen_Hi there could i please get some help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67378606:56
xen_Hi there could i please get some help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67378607:04
jtmoneyhey guys, i noticed that ati came out with a new version recently. does anyone know if the envy script is hardcoded to a version, or if it grabs the latest version automatically?07:05
bazhang!envy | jtmoney07:06
ubotujtmoney: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »07:06
jtmoneybazhang: it's needed if i want to use compiz without xgl07:07
jtmoney;)07:07
jtmoneyit's okay, i noticed the binary ati howto was updated07:07
bazhangjtmoney: but dont expect help here with it07:07
jtmoneydkms looks like a godsend07:07
dbmoodbba07:08
dbmoodbi have some more info07:13
andrushello, how can i see/run help files of gnome application in kde?07:15
dbmoodbok i think that site that some one linked me too wins, ....i think cupsys is trying to use ipp printing07:16
sime_hey07:18
sime_i have a quest07:18
sime_where do i learn more about the terminal07:19
dbmoodb!ask07:19
ubotuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)07:19
dbmoodbah bash sime ?07:19
sime_huh07:20
dbmoodb!bash07:20
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal07:20
sime_thx07:21
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kristjan_what's the most simple video editor for splitting .mov files? kdenlive?07:24
dbmoodbbah - there is no smb backend in my cupsys /usr/lib/cups/backend folder- is this a problem that might be causing me grief ?07:24
dbmoodbshouldn't be no...07:25
dbmoodbit would seem the ubuntu comp is trying to use /var/spool/win....07:30
Eddie23xhi07:33
dbmoodbhi07:35
posingaspopular!hi07:38
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:38
Dr_willis!moo07:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:40
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lod_hi, need help with compiz, I've changed the nvidia driver and now compiz is running but i've got no window borders08:41
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lod_reinstalled all packages but no changes08:41
Jucatolod_: you can ask in #compiz-fusion for more assistance08:41
wesleykoffice2 is break in repo08:42
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romunovany good alternatives to autocad for kde (linux)?08:58
posingaspopularromunov: sorry to break the news, but not that I know of.08:59
Jucatoromunov: there's QCad I think... you can try checking in http://kde-apps.org and http://qt-apps.org09:02
posingaspopularah Jucato knows all09:03
Jucatoof course not :P09:03
basy_how to add applet "system menu" into kmenu ?09:04
ardchoillebasy_: Right click the panel, and choose "add applet to panel". In the add applet dialog, find the applet you want and drag it to the panel09:05
Jucatoum...09:06
basy_i dont want to add it in to panel but into kmenu09:06
Jucatobasy_: righ-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Menu options -> check the System Menu box in the Optional menus list09:06
Dr_willisIm vague on what adding an applet to a menu means.. applets run in a panel.09:06
Dr_willisadd the 'system menu' item to the menu... ahhh...09:07
ardchoillebasy_: Sorry, I misread :(09:07
ardchoilleDr_willis: That was what threw me09:08
Dr_willis:) me also..09:08
ardchoilleAt least I'm in good company :)09:08
* Dr_willis is toying with compiz again.. about to disable it agin.09:08
Dr_willisthe only effect i like is the previews of windows on the panel.09:08
basy_OK again howto add launcher of "system menu" into KMenu?09:09
basy_it is not in menu editor09:10
basy_somewhere in system settings...09:10
basy_i cant remeber where09:10
Jucato[17:06] <Jucato> basy_: righ-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Menu options -> check the System Menu box in the Optional menus list09:11
Dr_willis<Jucato> basy_: righ-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Menu options -> check the System Menu box in the Optional menus list09:12
Dr_willisLol. :)09:12
Jucato:P09:12
Dr_willisI like that little item.09:12
basy_ok09:13
basy_thanks09:13
Dr_willisLots of neet things in that menu options.. lots of useless things also it seems09:13
lod_is there software for VC benchmark under kubuntu?09:14
Dr_willisNow i got 2 Settings menu items. :) one has just kde stuff.. other has kde + lots of other items.09:14
Dr_willisvc benchmarks?09:14
lod_yes, video card09:14
lod_graphic card, graphic accelerator09:15
Dr_willishmm. there are linux benchmark programs.. but never noticed any for just the video card systems.09:15
lod_np, i'm focused on the vc, but the overal bench. will be fine tu09:16
Dr_willis!find benchmark09:17
ubotuFound: libbenchmark-ocaml-dev, php-benchmark09:17
Dr_willisI know theres others..  lets see09:17
Dr_willis!find bonnie09:17
ubotuFound: bonnie++09:17
Dr_willis!info bonnie++09:17
ubotubonnie++ (source: bonnie++): Hard drive bottleneck testing benchmark suite.. In component main, is optional. Version 1.03aubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 40 kB, installed size 144 kB09:17
Dr_willisapt-cache search benchmark09:17
Dr_willishas a lot of hits. :)09:17
lod_ok, 10x09:18
wesleykoffice2 is brek in repo09:18
sigma_1234is anyone here able to burn multisession dvd rws with k3b?09:18
JucatoDr_willis: one of those is the special Settings menu, which is just a menu representation of kcontrol items, the other is a real K Menu sub folder09:19
Dr_willisJucato,  yea. Ive noticed that i am getting 100000's of menu items now days.. Would be nice if some how one could sort menus in to the 'kde standard items'   and keep them seperate from the gnome standard items, and  keep that stuff seperate from the 'disrto specific items;'09:21
Dr_willisgoing to need touse mySQL to keep the menu items sorted one of these days.  getting to be so many09:22
Dr_willis!info sdm09:25
ubotusdm (source: sdm): Secure Display Manager - secure remote access to X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0b-3 (gutsy), package size 13 kB, installed size 124 kB09:25
basy_any know some install compiz on 64bit tutorial?09:36
gan|y|medhi09:36
gan|y|med i installed xephyr, but when it opens it gives me no xterm. why is that? (xterm is installed)09:36
sigma_1234is openoffice a qt app?09:39
Jucatono09:40
se7enwhere would i find notebook tools like what to do if 10 min battary power left and so on09:41
se7enpower management09:41
Jucatose7en: doesn't guidance power manager (sitting in the system tray) do that?09:42
sigma_1234then what is it? it doesnt feel like a gtk app09:42
se7enno not in kde409:42
posingaspopularis there a way to chenge the text size in kde4 without changing the resolution?09:42
serzholinoit uses its own toolkit09:42
serzholinosigma_1234: ^^09:42
Jucatoposingaspopular: in System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts?09:42
serzholinowith plugins to look like kde or gtk or win3209:43
Jucato(oh, and #kubuntu-kde4 for KDE 4 questions :P)09:43
posingaspopulari see, thanks Jucato09:43
ActionParsniphey all09:45
sigma_1234ah so its platform independent. so thats why its so slow!09:45
sunny__keiner da aus Deutschland ?09:45
ActionParsnip!de | sunny__09:45
ubotusunny__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:45
azmanhi all09:46
ActionParsniphi azman09:46
=== girish is now known as mint2
mint2can anyone help ?09:46
ActionParsnip!ask | mint209:46
ubotumint2: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)09:46
mint2am using gutsy09:47
mint2when i switch my external HD09:47
mint2it detects it but when dolphin opens it09:47
azmanam using fasty09:47
mint2it says hal-storage-removable-mour refused uid 100009:47
azman:)09:47
mint2u the man azman !09:47
azmanyes09:48
posingaspopularazman: is that a question, or a decleration ;o09:48
azmanwhay?09:48
VensonHey all, is anybody else having problems with Ensoniq1371 cards emitting a lot of distortion while playing music?09:48
Dr_willismint2,  i belive the 'proper' fix (which isent ideal) is to make a fstab entry for the external drive.09:48
posingaspopularmint2: it sounds like you're having issue with mouting the drive?09:48
VensonI've looked around enough online, reinstalled upgraded version of ALSA etc. Nothing's helped so far09:48
mint2i would think so, Dr_willis09:48
Dr_willisTheres some oddity going on with auto mounting of external ntfs drives.09:48
mint2yes posingaspopular09:49
mint2how do i proceed09:49
Dr_willisive heard that ubuntu dosent have this issue.. and  im testing out Mint Linux today, and it asked for the sudoers password befor mounting my ntfs disks.  So.....  I guess it depends on wha tyou want to do.09:49
tobyare you in group "plugdev"?09:49
ActionParsnipmint2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60121009:50
ere4sirefused uid 1000 means your user isn't allowed to access external drives mint209:50
mint2yeah ere4si09:50
ActionParsnipmint2, listen to toby09:51
ere4siso you need to change what your user can access mint2 - users and groups09:51
tobyopen a user-editor09:51
tobyand make sure you're in group hal, plugdev and all that09:52
Dr_willisHmm...  Im not sure this is the totally right fix.  I got plugdev:x:46:haldaemon,ubuntu,willis in my groups and still had the issue.. lets check the hal group.09:52
tokishi all, anyone knows the name of the applications that installs konqueror plugins automatically (eg. flash plugin)09:53
Dr_willisflash is broken at this time.. sadly09:53
Dr_willis!flash09:53
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash09:53
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.09:53
Dr_willisya gotta do some twiddling to get flash going right.09:53
Dr_willisinstall the kubuntu-restricted-extras package for a lot of the other bits  :)09:54
Dr_willis!info kubuntu-restricted-extras09:54
ubotukubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB09:54
tokisit worked for me on firefox if I installed it from the konqueror plugin thingy09:54
mint2ugh09:54
mint2bloody thing09:54
mint2i dont know how to get to hal09:54
ardchoilletokis: The new flash plugin uses XEmbed and konqueror does not support XEmbed, which is why it's broken for konq09:54
tokisenable inotify in the kernel config09:54
mint2should i apt get ntfs-3g ?09:56
MediapirateHello09:56
gundam_rx78nt1hello.09:56
gundam_rx78nt1I am trying to change the resolution on my virtual terminals (CTRL+ALT+F1) and whenever I put VGA=791 or any other resolution it just gives me a blank screen with a blinking cursor.  It worked with Feisty but not with Gutsy... What gives?09:58
MediapirateHow are we?09:58
gundam_rx78nt1on the grub menu.lst file.09:58
tobydid you try vga=0x791 and so on?09:59
tobyi.e. with "0x"09:59
MediapirateI'm a kubuntu n00b so don't ask me09:59
Mediapiratehaha09:59
mint2u noob !09:59
gundam_rx78nt1toby, the 791 is the decimal equivelent of 0x317.09:59
Mediapirate:-( its not my fault....i'm downloading as we speak09:59
tobyah right ;)09:59
gundam_rx78nt1I tried it both ways.10:00
Mediapiratecan I ask what you guys use irc wise?10:00
gundam_rx78nt1Has anybody experienced this?  I hate having giant letters on  my screen when I am working on command line issues.10:00
Mediapirateor do you emulate mIRC10:00
* Mediapirate wonders what people use IRC wise on kubuntu?10:02
posingaspopularMediapirate: konversation of course ;p10:02
tobyKonversation10:02
* jpatrick uses irssi10:02
Mediapiratehehe thanks guys10:02
ardchoilleirssi here10:02
posingaspopularirssi is popular though, and a few apps10:02
ActionParsnipMediapirate, i use Konversation in Kubuntu and HydraIRC in windows. Why pay for mIRC when their are free eqivelants10:02
Mediapiratepay? lmao10:03
ActionParsnip!piracy " Mediapirate10:03
Mediapirateyou don't actually need to pay for it10:03
posingaspopularMediapirate: welcome to the kubutu cult. if you need help, just ask around10:03
Mediapirateyou just have to get that annoying screen for like 10 seconds then you click continue10:03
ActionParsnipMediapirate, you do or the free trial expires10:03
Dr_willisthere is xchat for windows.10:03
ActionParsnipDr_willis, xchat has a limited free try license then you gots to pay10:04
Dr_willisActionParsnip,  totally wrong. :) there are free versions also.10:04
ActionParsnipMediapirate, HydraIRC has no ads and is completely free10:04
Dr_willisthe 'official' one has that restriction.10:04
ActionParsnipDr_willis, oic10:04
Mediapirateahhh so many choices...10:04
Dr_willistheres like 4 other xchat variantions for windows that are 100% free10:04
ActionParsnipDr_willis, whats the difference?10:04
Dr_willissome have some extras,, some got some extra bugs. :P10:04
Dr_willissome use different gtk  things from what i gathered.10:05
adfhi10:05
Dr_willisI dident notice any real differance between them all.10:05
posingaspopularyou can also compile it from source and avoid paying that way10:05
posingaspopular!hi adf10:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hi adf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:05
Mediapiratehi adf10:05
ActionParsnipMediapirate, thats the world of Linux, Youarent made to have one choice only. freedom!!10:05
posingaspopular!hi | adf10:05
ubotuadf: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:05
adfdo I have to install some GNOME stuff if I want to run Pidgin on Kubuntu10:05
adfhi everyone10:05
Mediapiratelol10:05
ActionParsnipDr_willis, sweet man10:05
Dr_willisjust install pidgin and it will grab all needed dependencies10:06
Mediapirateyea thats a good point.  what do you use for msn.....pidgin i assume?10:06
Dr_willisthats whats so cool about the whole apt system. :P10:06
ActionParsnipDr_willis, I'll stick with hydra as I have my scripts setup so I log straight in and I come straight here10:06
posingaspopularadf: i dont think so, im almost certain it's a standalone application.10:06
adfum10:06
adfI try to use kopete but it crashes when I try to sign in10:06
spirooDoes anybody know how to remove KDE4, from Kubuntu. I cannot, because it remove KDM and nothing works if so.10:06
Dr_willisActionParsnip,  thats like a 3 line script for me. :) actually i dont even need to script htat in xchat.10:06
adfso whats a good replacement in kde for kopete?10:06
Dr_willisspiroo,  i just reinstalled kdm after removing the kde4 bits.10:07
ActionParsnipadf, what chat network/s do you use?10:07
adfmsn10:07
posingaspopularadf: pidgin10:07
Mediapirateemulated?10:07
ActionParsnipadf, amsn is awesome10:07
spirooDr_Willis: Yes, but for me if I do that it install KDE4 again :D10:07
adfbut are they kde themed10:07
ActionParsnipadf, indeed10:07
adfI thought pidgin is written for gnome10:07
Dr_willisspiroo,  kdm and the kde4-kdm i though are 2 different packages.10:07
ActionParsnipadf, sudo apt-get install amsn10:07
Dr_willis!find kdm10:08
ubotuFound: kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme, kdm10:08
Mediapiratelovin this IRC10:08
ActionParsnipadf, I think they just use the destop environment10:08
Mediapiratei've got to go get a haircut10:08
Mediapiratebye10:08
adfyeah10:08
spirooDr_willis: Yes they are different, but in some way they are now connectedd :S10:08
=== Mediapirate is now known as Mediapirate|AWAY
Dr_willisHmm does the bot even search kde4 packages..  There IS the official #kubuntu-kde4 channel.10:08
adfso is amsn better than pidgin?10:08
Mediapirate|AWAY?10:08
miranda_I have two different videocards/monitors. Is is possible to get a different x session running on each?10:08
ardchoille!away | Mediapirate|AWAY10:08
ubotuMediapirate|AWAY: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #kubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also  !Guidelines10:08
ActionParsnipadf, i only use msn and it even shows the drawings when people send them from live messenger10:09
Dr_willismiranda_,  i hear it is. :)10:09
Dr_willismiranda_,  but it may take some work.10:09
Mediapirate|AWAYi'm sorry ubotu :-(10:09
ActionParsnipadf, give it a go, see what you think of it. You can always uninstall10:09
adfso its better than pidgin actionparsnip?10:09
spirooDr_willis: Either way now if I am trying to start a KDE4 session I got a black screen and cannot do naything. Only KDE3 works :(10:09
ActionParsnipadf, define better10:09
adfat least in ur own opinion?10:09
ardchoilleadf: You can use gnome apps just fine in kde. and kde has settings to help gtk apps attempt to use kde themes10:09
adfwell u know what u prefer to use10:10
miranda_Dr_willis: not afraid of some hard work ;) is there a tutorial on that?10:10
ActionParsnipadf, indeed but it may not be the same as yours10:10
SarraHHhello peoples heres a good one for ya10:10
mragridkubuntu dont boot after installation10:10
ActionParsnipadf, all I can do is suggest. You might think it sucks10:10
adfso u personally like amsn more than other IM apps right?10:10
=== SarraHH is now known as LooSe
ActionParsnipadf, catch my drift?10:10
miranda_Dr_Willis: problem is, I can only find setting up two virtual x sessions on google10:10
ActionParsnipadf, correct10:11
adfk10:11
adfgood10:11
adfthanks10:11
adfum10:11
adfso I can get it from adept or what do I do?10:11
LooSespca5xx drivers ....ta dah .....*cringes*10:11
MGalaxyLDOCE (Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English) was OK just after installing Kubuntu 7.10 DVDm but after upgrading all packages (Full Upgrade) the phonetic font of LDOCE is shown wrongly, LDOCE uses gtk 1.2, any solution?10:11
Mediapirate|AWAYahhhh spam10:11
mragridkubuntu dont boot after installation can somebody help me10:12
ActionParsnipadf, yeah. or you can use sudo apt-get install amsn10:12
Dr_willismiranda_,   You have 2 seperate video cards? or one video card with 2 video outs?10:13
* ActionParsnip is afk10:13
adfsry can u explain the directions for that "sudo apt-get....10:13
LooSeadf: I might pooint out that the amsn in the repos is not the latest one so youll have to put up with a version upgrade notice everytime it starts10:13
adfis that what I should enter in konsole?10:13
adfoh10:13
LooSehello intelikey10:13
intelikeyshalom LooSe10:13
LooSe<<----AzAel for last week10:13
LooSefrom10:14
adfloose: so even though if I download the lastest version the notice will still come up?10:14
miranda_Dr_willis: currently, two seperate video cards, but I do have options and can do one card with two vga outs.10:14
mragridcan someone o the moderators help me please10:14
LooSesorry afd but at this pint its not really an issue for you10:14
LooSemragrid: whats the problem10:14
LooSehey does anyone have experience with spca5xx driver based webcams?10:15
* ActionParsnip back10:15
LooSewb ActionParsnip10:15
Dr_willismiranda_,  2 monitors with a nvidia card  with 2 video outs is fairly easy. :)10:15
mragridmy problem is that i installed kubuntu in dual boot with xp and the xp is working well now with grub but kubuntu just show me kubuntu loading and then all go black and freeze10:16
wesleyis it posibile to run kubuntu without touching your xbox36010:16
wesleylike booting from a live cd10:16
adfactionparsnip: whats the best way to get amsn10:17
LooSewesley: its not quite that far along yet10:17
adfamsn10:17
adfadept or konsole terminal?10:17
LooSewesley: from what i know you need a modded dvd rom drive10:17
DreadKnightadf: sudo apt-get install amsn10:18
DreadKnighti guess10:18
adfdreadnight: I'm not familiar with that code thing, is that what I enter in konsole after I download the tar.gz file?10:18
mragridso loose can you help me10:18
DreadKnightadf: fire up konsole10:19
LooSemragrid: the live cd booted fine yeah?10:19
mragridyes of course10:19
LooSelol obviously10:19
adfdreadknight: can u give me some specific directions ?10:19
adfso after firing up konsole10:19
mragridloose: i installed it and all went verry well10:19
DreadKnightadf: it means you want administrative privileges to use apt to install the package called amsn10:20
DreadKnightadf: are you running 7.10 with kde3.x ?10:20
adfyeah10:20
adfI think I am10:20
adfjust downloaded kubuntu this morning10:20
DreadKnightpress alt+space and type konsole (depends if it's translated in ur language... )10:20
adf?10:21
mragridloose: could it be because i installed it on a secondary partition10:21
adfits english10:21
LooSemragrid: im at a loss at the moment because i havent had boot problems for ages so icant remember the command to show the kernel output as its booting10:21
DreadKnightadf: press that and type in, then hit enter ...10:21
adfsry what do I do after I get to the catapult screen?10:21
mragridloose: ok10:21
DreadKnightadf: type in "konsole" and press enter :D10:21
mragridloose: thank you anyway10:21
adfk10:22
LooSemragrid: someone else here will know10:22
adfoh10:22
adfso thats what katapult is for10:22
LooSeadf: you could just simply search for amsn in adept and install it that way10:22
DreadKnightadf: you can fire up applications, change the playing song from amarok, open documents etc10:22
adfdreadknight: so after I get to the command screen?10:22
DreadKnightadf: sudo apt-get install amsn10:23
adfk10:23
adffrom my home directory?10:23
DreadKnightdoesn't matter10:23
LooSeor that10:23
mragridloose: yes, but you are the only one that responded to my question10:23
adfit says [sudo] password for username:10:24
adfand I cant enter anything from keyboard10:24
posingaspopularyes you can adf you just cant see it10:24
adfoh ok10:24
posingaspopularso anyone looking over you shoulder can't steal the password ;p10:24
ardchoilleadf: That nees your username, and yes it does enter, it just doesn't print anything (security purposes)10:24
LooSeso does anyone know about the spca5xx webcams drivers????10:24
adfso do I just press backspace to delete whatever I may have entered10:24
DreadKnightadf: so enter your password of the root, chars are hidden, if you get it wrong you will be propted again... you can also use backspace to del if you typed in something wrong10:24
posingaspopularyes10:24
LooSemragrid: so all ytour getting is a black screen and no text?10:25
adfE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)10:25
adfE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?10:25
DreadKnightadf: this would be one way to do it; the most noobish one would be to press on the Kmenu, click on the add/remove programs, check for amsn, check and apply/install, another way would be adept_manager, and the last i can think of is installing .deb files :)10:25
adfthats what it says10:26
ardchoilleadf: Youmay have another package manager open, close it and try again10:26
DreadKnightadf: well, restart your pc, or close adept or other things opened10:26
LimCoreActionParsnip  asks why he is banned here?10:26
sigma_1234did you guys hear da plan to rename kubuntu to ubuntu kde edition? i read it in the news this morning10:26
adfdreadnight: yeah lol I had adept open10:26
LooSeadf: you must have adept open or something10:26
LimCoreany ops here?10:26
mragridloose: exactly, i choose kubuntu from grub and then i get the message that kubuntu is loading and then nothink all black10:26
DreadKnightsigma_1234: that would be cool, less flame wars  etc10:26
DreadKnightand confusion xD10:27
LimCoreindeed  Ubuntu KDE edition  sounds better10:27
sigma_1234but i liked kubuntu. now everything is going to change:(10:27
LimCoresome people are like  "no, I dont have ubuntu.... I have kubuntu"10:27
LooSemragrid: is there an option for recovery mode?10:27
DreadKnightsigma_1234: me too, but that's after i learned what things are the hard way10:27
mragridloose: yes and i tried it but i get the same result : nothing10:28
DreadKnightubuntu doesn't even contains a G for gnome :D10:28
LooSeCan someone help mragrid10:28
DreadKnightGubuntu :P10:28
sigma_1234whenever i think about ubuntu i always think gnome. when i think about kubuntu i always think kde10:28
DreadKnightsigma_1234: what about fedora users? :D they have the option... and other distros as well10:29
sigma_1234but do we really want to copy someone else or be original?10:30
DreadKnightsigma_1234: and the "planets" are also messed up, nobody cares about that anymore, it has to be a big welcoming community10:30
LooSeheheheh Ubuntu KDE4 Edition10:30
sigma_1234ubuntu also doesnt have a k d or e. lol10:30
DreadKnightsigma_1234: it's best this way; would make more sense to non-geeks like us, trust me10:30
LooSeremove your gnome for they are creating dead patches on my lawn10:30
DreadKnightLooSe: lol10:31
DreadKnightsigma_1234: ubuntu doesn't have from gnome, but kubuntu has from kde, same goes for xubuntu... :P so ...10:31
sigma_1234yeah it probably does help with non geeks i guess. hope the ubuntu kde edition logo stays blue though10:32
DreadKnightit would be plain easy to adopt new desktop enviroments without making a new distro with an odd name10:32
sigma_1234DreadKnight: yeah but they wana change that now10:32
DreadKnightsigma_1234: i hope so too, but my parents don't get the kubuntu/ubuntu/xubuntu/shubuntu thing :|10:32
LooSeUbuntu totally mental edition10:33
DreadKnightsigma_1234: hmmm... guess they need to make a new one to "unify" the projects :\10:33
ardchoille!ot10:33
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:33
DreadKnightbah, party breaker :D10:33
sigma_1234lol10:33
* DreadKnight runs10:33
LooSeim still waiting for answers to my earlier question10:34
intelikeymiranda_ what's your issue ?10:35
LooSere: can someone with a bit of experience with spca5xx webcam drivers assit me10:35
intelikeyno exp. here LooSe10:35
Mediapirate|AWAYIf your wireless card isn't on the supported cards list does that mean you can't use your compuer wirelessly with kubuntu?10:36
sigma_1234loose: is that a linux driver?10:36
intelikeyMediapirate|AWAY no it means you may have to do something fancy like ndiswrapper to use it10:37
LooSesigma_1234: it is10:37
Mediapirate|AWAYok thanks10:38
LooSeever since 7.10 my webcam has been displaying a black screen10:38
intelikeyMediapirate|AWAY it also means that it "may not work"  but that is less likely than "it will if you use ndiswrapper"10:38
LooSeit worked in 7.0410:38
Mediapirate|AWAYOk thats great...thanks intelikey  i've got two external wifi cards so hopefully at least one of them will work10:39
sigma_1234loose: maybe they took the driver out10:39
intelikeyMediapirate|AWAY welcome10:39
LooSeno its there but i think something in recent kernels has broken it10:39
LooSeits detected and the driver is configured but theres something else that stuffs it10:40
intelikeymiranda_ ?10:40
mragridcan someome help me i m having serious boot problems with kubuntu10:41
intelikeymragrid ati vidio chipset on a 64 bit lappy   and it's blanking out on you when you boot ???10:42
mragridintelikey: no i have ati video chipset on 32 bit lappy and not 64 bit and yes its blanking out on when i boot10:43
LooSeintelikey to the rescue woohoo10:44
intelikeyshort answer stop using kernel frame buffering.   boot with "nosplash vga=normal"     there is probably a long answer too.10:44
LooSemragrid: i take it you know how to do that from grub?10:45
mragridloose: no10:46
mragridloose: do i have to put an argument on grub10:46
LooSeyup...the one that intelikey pointed out10:46
mragridok i will try it right now10:47
LooSeof course i dont like arguing with grub so i just walk away till hes cooled down10:47
intelikeyat the boot menu   press [esc]    select the boot option you wish "probably (ubuntu..)"  press [e]     select the kernel line and press [e]   edit the line and hit enter    then press [b]10:47
mragridok thanks for you both i will try it right now10:48
LooSegood luck to him10:49
LooSei just always acpi issues10:49
LooSehad10:49
intelikeyacpi may be involved with that issue too   but just not using the fbcon should get him to a working system10:50
HumpBackHello all. Is there any info on updating kubuntu gutsy to Hardy? I need some packages (maven) that are not in gutsy.10:51
intelikeyand for my way of thinking, if frame buffering or acpi has to go   kill the usplash!10:51
LooSebe nice if they could develop a boot sequence that would revert back to an active safe state that diplays a log of the error/errors10:52
LooSeinstead of just freezing10:52
intelikeyLooSe it's not an actual freeze.  people call it that because they don't see anything.   but with that issue most of the time the system fully boots and will respond to input. just doesn't display anything10:53
LooSei know but "They" don't know that10:54
LooSesome sort of error code must be generated that the system can intercept10:55
Dr_willisOhh,,, "They dont know"  - well we cant let "Them" Find out... :)10:55
intelikey:)10:55
* Dr_willis looks around for... "Them"....10:55
LooSerofl10:56
BelisarivsHi all.10:56
intelikeyif they only knew that they didn't know, we all know what would happen.10:56
BelisarivsI have problem with krorrent.10:56
Dr_willisIts 6 am here.. ick. :0 about time for me to  hit the bed..10:56
LimCorelol who banned ActionParsnip10:56
BelisarivsIt allocates full space for downloads even though I disabled this feature. An it also is very unstable.10:56
BelisarivsI'll provide bugreport, but I'd like ask whether would someone help me to search relevant data (backtrace, gdb) so I can fill useful report.10:57
LooSeBelisarivs: its a feature not a bug10:57
LooSesorry :P10:57
BelisarivsLooSe, but it is bug when you set it to be disabled in configuration and it isn't.10:57
LooSeBelisarivs: that was just a sad attempt at humour10:58
BelisarivsAh.10:58
LooSeintelikey: my veiled point being that display errors are the biggest pain for nubs and a large cause for most people dropping the whole "lets try an alternative" idea11:00
LimCoreardchoille: ActionParsnip asks for redemption :P11:01
ardchoilleLimCore: This is not the place for that.11:01
intelikeyLooSe yeah.  and boot splash   is the biggest cause of them.     so the problem is the eyecandy.11:01
mragridloose and intelikey: the method worked and the kubuntu started thanks for both of you11:01
intelikeymragrid welcome.11:02
LooSemragrid: maybe you can talk intelikey into telling you how to disable it permanently so you dont have to type it in each time you boot11:02
LooSeintelikey: gotta love the eye candy though11:03
LooSewithout it my wife would freak 10x more11:03
intelikeyLooSe yeah, it keeps tech support in business11:03
LooSe"omg whats all that jibberish"11:03
mragridinteliskey: do i have to do the same every time i boot my system or there is a kind of file that should be modified to be done automaticaly every time i boot11:03
* LooSe smirks11:03
mragridloose: that exactly what i did11:04
intelikeymragrid   sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst     change it there if you want it to be sticky11:04
intelikeyif you don't know/like nano     gksudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst11:05
LooSemragrid: OR sudo kate /boot/grub.......to quick for me11:05
mragridinteliskey: great, thank you11:05
mragridloose: thank you too11:06
LooSeintelikey: tanks for the pm11:07
LooSei usually use mc to do everything sudoish11:07
intelikeynp11:07
intelikeyme too11:07
LooSei hate this chair11:08
DreadKnightme too11:08
LooSeback one the circulation has returned11:08
LooSeonce11:08
intelikeyot: but, never selstc a chair for the way it feel when you sit in it,   select a chair for the way it feels when you rise from sitting in it for two hours.11:10
intelikeys.selstc.select.11:11
adfhi11:11
LooSei have this chair because my comp is on the breakfast bench and i only have a crappy stool11:12
homoludenshi everyone! could anyone tell me where i can post questions regarding kopete (unter kubuntu)?11:13
homoludensbut it's more of a kopete than kubuntu question ...11:13
kimhey im havnig a weird problem wiht printing. im using samba to print to an office pritner, but itll only print a test page - if i try and print anythign out it seems to spool it but then it just doesnt work. any ideas?11:13
Lynourehomoludens: you could still try here, for starters :)11:13
LooSedepemnding on the problem it may serve you to google for the kopete irc channel11:13
LooSethat would also help11:14
homoludensyippie! :D ok, my problem is: whenever i set the global status under kopete to "away", the status for my yahoo account is set to "busy", and not to "away". is there a way to customize how the individual status messages relate to the global one?11:15
milestonehi all11:16
homoludensi was looking for an irc channel but don't think there is one for kopete. there's only a developers' mailing list.11:16
intelikeykim  if it prints the test page   and you saved/applied all changes   then it "should" print anything.   (i know that looks like a non-help response)11:16
milestoneis there a tool to remaster a dvd under kde?11:17
bachstudiesI have installed Ooo 2.3.1 manually to fix font issues and now adept keeps saying the newer packages are upgradable. Is there anyway to tell adept not to look at those files?11:17
milestoneI maean to mount an iso image and add files to it, and then burn it11:17
kimintelikey: hmm, thankss. weird innit?11:17
milestonecan that be done with k3b?11:17
intelikeykim only clue i can/did offer is that in kde you have to "apply" changes   even if the test page went ok.11:18
kimintelikey: ah. its just refusing to print pdfs. weirdd11:18
intelikeyand yeah it's strange as a five legged chicken11:18
kimintelikey: OoO prints fine11:19
LooSespeaking of printing11:28
LooSei have a laser printer attached to my fileserver thats running xubuntu 7.04 and using ipp with a cups backend11:29
LooSehow can i set it up so that i can manage the queue locally without having to log into the cups admin page11:30
LooSeie using kde print11:30
LooSeargh my legs11:32
LooSelol @ five legged chicken11:32
intelikeyChoose a topic from the table of contents or search   this page by pressing Ctrl+F in your browser and entering a search term. <<< isn't that just a little presumptsious    some browsers don't map ^F to a search this page command....   (taken from the ubuntu common questions page, first paragraph)11:32
intelikeyLooSe maybe   kprinter11:33
LooSewell i added the printer locally using kprinter...but due to the secondhand nature of the printer i have to continually delete jobs from the queue11:34
intelikeyi assume that the writer assumed that the reader would be using ff11:34
intelikeyLooSe isn't there a kcontrol access for that ?11:34
LooSeyeah but it only sits there as its being sent to the server11:37
LooSeonce it gets to the server i cant do anything11:37
LooSeie only shows the local queue11:37
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AzAelyay i got my nick back11:38
intelikeyright.  well then i don't know of anyway to admin the remote without logging into cups page11:38
homoludensis there a good url snipping program for online media streams under linux?11:39
AzAeland here i was thinking you were an incarnation of the all knowing god odin11:39
intelikeyazael http://127.0.0.1:63111:39
AzAelpfft thats the local cups instance11:40
intelikeyAzAel me doesn't think odin knows very much.....11:40
AzAelso odin should get a refund and get his eye back11:40
intelikeyAzAel :)11:40
AzAelwell kde 4 has been fun11:41
AzAelthough at the moment its more of a gimmick than anything11:42
aasensuiosalut11:42
AzAeli can see the HUGE potential11:42
AzAelgreetings aasensuio11:43
intelikey!fr | aasensuio if you need it;11:44
ubotuaasensuio if you need it;: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:44
aasensuiook thanks11:44
AzAelthough the taskbar annoys the utter %**# out of me11:45
intelikey"Ubuntu provides users with a way to deploy Debian with security fixes, release critical bug fixes, a consistent desktop interface, and to never be more than six months away from the latest version of anything in the open source world."  <<< am i reading that correctly ?    ubuntu is debian ???   (source http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship )11:51
AzAelyes based11:52
intelikeyread it agian  ^11:52
intelikey"Ubuntu provides users with a way to deploy Debian" <<< ?11:52
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homoludensguys, is anyone here using a panasonic laptop? (in japan's it's known as "let's note", but i think abroad it's called a "toughbook").11:55
homoludensi've got some problems with the standby/hibernation modes under kubuntu gutsy.11:55
AzAelyeah well ubuntu is debian at its core11:55
AzAelcyas11:59
Slasher`hey, does anyone have any idea why xchat won't make the pm windows light up red when someone sends me a message in KDE, it works fine in GNOME but not in KDE - anyone know if there are any fixes for this please?12:11
neetodoes anyone know the cli command for the gdm login manager?12:18
intelikeyneeto ?12:19
intelikeygdm12:19
neetoyes12:19
neetolol12:19
intelikeygdm is the command, what do you want to do with it ?12:19
neetostupid me, asking in kubuntu :/12:19
neetosorry guys12:19
intelikeyneeto it's not that.   i just don't understand what you are wanting.12:20
intelikeyit would not matter if you had said kdm,  the problem would be the same.     what is the desired end result ?12:20
neetoI just need to know the command to open that opens the login manager12:21
intelikeygdm12:21
neetohmm12:21
neetoI mean, the settings for the login manager12:21
intelikeyah settings.     the config file is  /etc/gdm/gdm.conf12:22
neetoright, but there is also a GUI settings manager, I want to open that12:22
intelikeykcontrol  used to provide that to kdm   i'm not sure about gdm though12:23
neetogcontrol doesn't work :/12:23
neetooh well, thanks12:23
bogdanvrun roman  ?12:23
* intelikey always just edited the gdm.conf file.12:23
neetogot it, gdmsetup12:23
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Slasher`.13:08
Slasher`hey, does anyone have any idea why xchat won't make the pm windows light up red when someone sends me a message in KDE, it works fine in GNOME but not in KDE - anyone know if there are any fixes for this please?13:08
HateCameljust reinstall and restart windows13:09
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bazhangSlasher`: not sure--konversation is the kde default and it does it nicely13:14
bazhangHateCamel: have an issue?13:14
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dfghdjfhghwqerfqwefqwef13:16
dfghdjfhghI am testing IRC client, somebody please type something13:17
ardchoilledfghdjfhgh: I'm glad you explained that :)13:17
dfghdjfhghok13:18
bentob0xsince the X update, anybody faces crashes using wine?13:26
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payani need help with getting 5.1 sound on a cmedia 873813:34
payanplease, someone post me a working .asoundrc file13:35
ivenkiihello13:42
ivenkiii need some help with ubuntu :)13:43
ivenkiii access the net via PPPoE connection13:43
ardchoilleivenkii: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?13:43
ivenkiikubuntu, im a novice user of kubuntu13:44
ardchoilleok13:44
ivenkiii need to enter username and password to connect13:44
ivenkiii dont know how to configure :(13:44
ivenkiiplz help13:44
ivenkiithere?13:46
jpatrick!ask | ivenkii13:46
ubotuivenkii: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)13:46
jpatrick!ppp | ivenkii13:46
ivenkiik thx13:46
ubotuivenkii: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up13:46
ivenkiiand sorry13:46
jpatrickivenkii: we're here to help :)13:47
ivenkiiyea  i know13:47
ivenkii:)13:47
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lupulhi. need som help. i have a windows installation on another hard drive. how can i add it to the grub?14:06
lupul!grub14:07
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto14:07
marius__Hi all, anybody ot an idea of how to get the Vodacom pcmcia modem working on Kubuntu?14:09
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lod_how to use iptables on tcp614:13
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Erzgalocould somebody help me? I have been having problems with screen resolution, sometimes when I changed it it doesn't do anything until I restart the computer. I think I selected an unsuitable resolution and restarted, and now kubuntu gives me only maximum of 640x480 resolution. Any way to fix this?14:36
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osh_I upgraded my box to gutsy a few minutes ago. Now I can't log in anymore. When KDM is supposed to show the screen goes "black" and the computer hangs. Any idea on how to fix it? I've tried reconfigure xorg.14:55
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azlonhow can i change my resolution in KDE?15:11
SlimeyPeteazlon: K menu -> System Settings -> Monitor and Display15:12
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azlonSmileyPete: i dont have Monitor and Display... and my menu says System, not System Settings15:14
azlonam i missing something?15:14
azloncrap15:14
azlonnever mind15:14
azloni see what you're saying15:14
RoeyHello15:15
Roeyhey renato15:15
SlimeyPetewelcome, Roey15:16
RoeyI've been trying to get my video card (geforce4 ti4200) accelerated for the longest time, now.  I've installed the -legacy drivers, and have reconfigured X (with the command   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg), but I can't seem to get GLX working!15:17
RoeyWhat could be wrong?15:17
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Weasel[DK]anyone knows a good network profile switcher ?15:23
mindframe-will kubuntu 8.10 include kde4?15:29
tekteenyes15:29
mindframe-coolstuff :)15:29
bazhangyou can get it now15:29
Tm_Tmindframe-: yes, all Kubuntu versions will include it, from Gutsy15:29
tekteenit will have both kde 3.5 and 4.015:29
bazhang#kubuntu-kde415:29
jussi01!kde4 > mindframe-15:29
voicuwhat is the file that is executed when a user logs on in kde?15:38
voicui want to execute something only when i log into kde15:38
llutzvoicu: put it into ~/.kde/Autostart15:39
voicullutz: thanks15:39
voicuso it runs all files in there?15:40
Lynourevoicu: they need to be as bash scripts, but yes15:40
llutzyes, it should15:40
voicuhmm, ok15:40
voicuthanks15:40
Lynoure(or, well, shell scripts)15:40
llutzor symlinks15:40
voicuyeah, i got it15:40
Lynourevoicu: oh, .desktop files also work15:40
voicu.desktop as in shortcuts on the desktop15:41
voicu?15:41
Lynourevoicu: as in menu entries. You can just drag one to Autostart and it should be fine15:42
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voicunah, i trust bash scripts more15:42
voicuplus, the're more dynamic15:43
_hufi_hey15:43
Jeroihow to kill thunderbird?15:44
voicuuse a console15:45
_hufi_top15:45
voicups -A|grep thunderbird15:45
voicukill <process_number>15:45
_hufi_open the console and type "top"15:45
voicuor use top15:45
voicui personally don't like it, it's too crowded :P15:46
_hufi_i think he dosent know the id of the prozess15:46
_hufi_have you opened top?15:48
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pphola15:51
ppkubuntu en spanish ?15:51
pphola15:52
ppkubuntu en espanol15:52
pp?15:52
llutz!es15:52
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.15:52
pphello to alls15:52
_hufi_!en15:52
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat15:52
_hufi_i speak german but i like it here15:53
_hufi_so i am here =)15:53
voicuwell i speak romanian but there are no people in the ro channels so i'm here :P15:54
voicubut i do like it here :D15:54
todobgamarok2 is out ?15:55
_hufi_finally15:55
_hufi_i hope he is more stabile15:55
todobgi think he is in kde repo or i miss something15:56
_hufi_i use KDE15:57
todobghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2-uKv6zd54 :)15:58
Vermuxjpatrick: how do I check if I have openssh-server installed?15:58
llutzapt-cache policy openssh-server15:59
geniiapt-cache policy openssh-server15:59
geniillutz: Durn!~15:59
llutz*g15:59
Vermuxnone is installed15:59
Vermuxhow do I install that?15:59
geniiVermux: Then sudo apt-get install openssh-server16:00
Vermuxsudo apt-get install openssh-server16:00
geniiVermux: Yes16:00
Vermuxhehe16:00
Vermuxok16:00
Vermuxthanks16:00
_hufi_sexy....16:00
_hufi_no my one is simple16:01
_hufi_i have to go16:01
tungIs there any alternative to shockwave. I'm using kubuntu and don't know how to access a website with shockwave.16:02
mixedanyone in here plays quake?16:02
Kohlrabiof course :)16:03
geniitung: No linux shockwave yet. There is an online petition for Adobe to make one if you like I can find you the url and put your name there16:04
mixedKohlrabi, you know how to bind commands on Quake III so you don thave to configure your system on every server?16:04
geniitung: http://www.petitiononline.com/linuxswp/petition.html16:05
tunggenii: thanks16:05
Kohlrabimixed: there should be a *.cfg in the quake folders16:05
geniitung: Every name counts16:05
Kohlrabimixed: I use ioquake3, so my config is in my personal folder16:06
RoeyI've been trying to get my video card (geforce4 ti4200) accelerated for the longest time, now.  I've installed the -legacy drivers, and have reconfigured X (with the command   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg), but glxgears indicates that GLX isn't loaded!     What could be wrong?16:06
mixedKohlrabi, what's that?  Is it a utility you downloaded to configure your distro for quake?16:07
colonv20 should run with non-legacy quite fine, I think16:09
mixedKohlrabi, I think I'm supposed to have an autoconfig.cfg , i'ts been a while since I've played Quake, it worked just find in redmond, why do must I configure my distro on ever f**n server I join???????????//16:10
Vermuxjpatrick: how do I reverse rsync -av....?16:13
Vermuxjpatrick: in other words, how do I restore the settings in the recieving end?16:14
Vermuxgenii: ^16:15
Vermuxwho can help with rsync?16:16
kaminixAgain... anyone know a way to convert .sub to .srt?16:19
Vermuxgenii: there?16:19
_Vermuxwho can help with rsync?16:20
kaminixCool, this should be in the repos. :) http://www.robelix.com/sub2srt/16:21
Tm_T!repeat | _Vermux16:21
ubotu_Vermux: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience16:21
_VermuxI 've just transfered all settings from one computer to the other with rsync -av userfolder Userlogin@OtherComputerIP:/home. and it ruined everything. Hoe do I restore home folder on the recieving computer to what it was before the transfer?16:23
osh_I upgraded my box to gutsy a few hours ago. Now I can't log in anymore. When KDM is supposed to show the screen goes "black" and the computer hangs. Any idea on how to fix it? I've tried reconfigure xorg.16:24
wadHi, folks. I plugged in a USB scanner to my linux laptop, and nothing happens. I need a starting point, to learn how to make this work. Help?16:25
kaminixCould not detect The.Show.Must.Go.On.2007.DVDRip.XviD.CD1-PosTX.sub format!   <--- Any ideas what the problem might be?16:25
mixedanyone know if Logitech joysticks are supported in kubuntu?16:26
Tm_Tshould be16:26
_VermuxHelp! I have just transfered all settings from one computer to the other with rsync -av userfolder Userlogin@OtherComputerIP:/home. and it ruined everything. How do I restore home folder on the recieving computer to what it was before the transfer?16:32
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genii_Vermux: Ouch. I'm not sure that's reversible16:39
_Vermuxgenii: the issues from the old machine were transfered to the new one16:40
number21pix__does anyone use kdenlive? i have a render problem16:41
jpatrick_Vermux: it shouldn't have removed the other ones16:42
geniijpatrick: I think --archive will overwrite if file is newer16:43
_Vermuxjpatrick: it did not removed. I replaced the user with a user. I figure out it was mistake16:43
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jpatrickVermux: did you remember to cd .. from the home dir of the user?16:44
Vermuxyes16:44
jpatrickso, what exactly went wrong?16:44
Vermuxjpatrick: remember, I had a resolution problem on the old machine. the problem was transfered to the new one16:45
Vermuxjpatrick: and I have the feeling that more issues were transfered16:45
Vermuxjpatrick: maybe it is better to delluser and adduser ?16:45
jpatrickVermux: it should have only transfered your stuff arross16:45
Vermuxjpatrick: but it changed my resolution16:46
jpatrickVermux: then try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg16:46
Vermuxjpatrick: what is it?16:47
Vermuxls16:48
jpatrickVermux: it reconfigures your X server16:48
Vermuxjpatrick: I tried it on the old computer. didnt solve the problem16:48
_eMaX_hi all16:50
blizzzekhi16:50
_eMaX_earlier last year I had an option to "make rpm" to build a kernel. Now it tells me, "no rule to make 'rpm'" - has anything changed in the kernel build system?16:51
kaminix^How do I make mkfs pretend to make a filesystem? I think that was supposed to work to retrieve the superblocks and stuff.16:56
tekstacyIf I install alongside XP, will I have full access to the ntfs partition?16:58
tekstacyahh, nevermind, I found it. :)17:00
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kaminix^I've done this before, but I don't remember how. How did I solve this?17:10
kaminix^e2fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)17:10
kaminix^mybook: recovering journal17:10
kaminix^fsck.ext3: unable to set superblock flags on mybook17:10
frojndI need some linux help here17:14
kaminix^We all do.17:14
frojndIn command line, I need to figure it out what's the name of PID 6 process. BUT I only need to know just this PID's name. Not all17:14
frojnd:)17:14
kaminix^Hmm... sorry, can't help ya with that one. :(17:14
geniikaminix^: debugfs may help to set the new superblock. Third post here shows how: http://sysadminforum.com/t191461.html17:15
frojndif I do px -A | grep 6 will ofcourse the first name be of PID 6 but it also shows others that 6 is in it's names..17:15
kaminix^genii: Thanks, I'll take a look.17:15
geniimaybe: ps ax|grep " 6 "17:16
kaminix^genii: This exactly what I did: # fsck.ext3 -b superblock_location /dev/XXX, but it tells me it fails to set superblock flag :s17:17
geniikaminix^: I think you are supposed to make "XXX" into the dev name of course17:18
kaminix^genii: Yeah, I did all that before I asked. It's when I type that command I get the error msg I posted above. :/17:19
kaminix^I have these three commands:17:19
kaminix^sudo fsck.ext3 -b 71663616 /dev/sdb117:19
kaminix^sudo fsck.ext3 -b 78675968 /dev/sdb117:19
kaminix^sudo fsck.ext3 -b 102400000 /dev/sdb117:19
geniikaminix^: Ah.ok. Try no spave between -b and the number.eg:  sudo fsck.ext3 -b71663616 /dev/sdb117:20
genii*space17:20
kaminix^Same error genii :(17:21
geniikaminix^: Bah. No immediate idea then.17:21
kaminix^Meeeeh, I know I did this like a month ago :p17:21
geniikaminix^: Did you try:   sudo debugfs                  then at the debugfs prompt,: ssv status 1                       then: quit17:25
kaminix^genii: Nope.17:25
kaminix^What does it do?17:26
hungrymouseis there any way to run a proper instance of windows under linux? and i dont mean wine or whatever.17:26
biovorehungrymouse: virtualization.. vmware/qemu/vituralbox17:27
geniikaminix^: If you read the post there, you would know. It sets the filesystem to be marked clean even if it isn't.17:27
kaminix^Hrm... I guess I'll go through the thing step by step.17:28
hungrymousethanks biovore17:28
palashhi ppl17:29
kaminix^What's blockcount?17:29
jussi01217:32
geniikaminix^: You actually don't usually need the blockcount, it should autodetect. blockcount is the size of the chunks in blocks that your filesystem is formatted in.17:32
kaminix^It seems to be mounting as ext2 :o17:32
jussi01!vmware | hungrymouse17:32
ubotuhungrymouse: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers17:32
geniikaminix^: Yes. If you paid attention there, they are converting to ext2 to rebuild the journalling part of the ext3 then converting it back to ext317:33
nicola_hy, i need help to install flashplayer and java....some help?17:34
kaminix^Oh, the two posts are related? I thought they did that in one post and what I'm doing in the other. :o17:35
nicola_do anyone help me???17:37
simion314_hi, i want an application for recoding the screen for video tutorials, any suggestions?17:38
jussi01!info krecordmydesktop17:39
ubotukrecordmydesktop (source: krecordmydesktop): kde frontend to recordmydesktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1~alpha1+debian-1 (gutsy), package size 75 kB, installed size 300 kB17:39
jussi01simion314_: ^17:39
sigma_1234can i create a symbolic link to a directory on another hard drive?17:40
pagsigma_1234, I'd say yes... ln -s /path/to/sourcedir /path/to/target17:43
geniisigma_1234: You can create symlinks to any file or directory which is mounted.17:43
geniisigma_1234: You cannot make symlinks to something like /dev/sdz1/somefile17:43
sigma_1234thanks. was worried i couldnt do it to a directory17:44
TuXman!purekde17:46
ubotupurekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »17:46
TuXmanthanks ubuntu bot!17:47
eagles051387hey guys im having some issues booting onto the gutsy live cd17:47
eagles051387can anyone help me17:48
TuXman... hm, did you checksum it before you burned it?17:48
SlimeyPetewhat's the problem?17:48
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eagles051387ive used it on another machine it works17:48
eagles051387could it be that im on a tablet pc17:48
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simion314_jussi01: what ? ^?17:49
SlimeyPeteeagles0513875: we don't know until you tell us more about the problem :)17:49
TuXmanI doubt it, Ubuntu usually runs on everything that has good enough specs.17:49
TuXmanbut we all knew that.17:49
SlimeyPetetablet PCs are just standard PC laptops inside, mind17:49
SlimeyPeteso...unlikely to be a problem17:49
TuXmaneggsactly.17:49
eagles0513875i let it load and for some reason no desktop loads it just displays a bright color and thats it. i also when i hit ctrl f1 it says bios bug #81 dunno what that means17:50
eagles0513875if i can get onto the live cd and install im getting rid of vista for a while or at least duel boot with it17:50
TuXmanyay kill Vista! M$ is carp!17:51
eagles0513875lol17:51
eagles0513875if i have issues with world of warcraft and wine on here im goign to need vista17:51
eagles0513875im on it right now cuz i cant even get onto the live cd. had to hunt down an irc client and go from there to get on here17:52
TuXmanWoW works well in wine from what I hear, as it only requires the disk to install, not to play.17:52
parkinwow should work well with wine17:52
parkinotherwise you may try cedega17:53
eagles0513875i know that but this is a laptop we r takling bout17:53
SlimeyPeteeagles0513875: hmm odd... I would google for your bios if I were you and check if there are any known incompatibilities with Linux17:53
eagles0513875i have a 6150 geforce go on this thing17:53
eagles0513875i was able to boot it off the live cd once17:53
eagles0513875how do i turn off dma when booting off the live cd17:53
TuXmanI have a GeForce FX 5200 and it works LOL17:53
eagles0513875my desktop it works fine with a 6600gt17:53
eagles0513875i know it works but im not sure if it wil work on my laptop17:54
eagles0513875it didnt even work on my last laptop17:54
hasse_hey, i have a thinkpad t61p, with a nvidia graphic card, and it's possible to run 1920x1200, but i cant get the drivers to do that, when i use nvidia-settings it can update to that resolution , but if i restart X it's back to low resolutioin17:54
eagles0513875whats anyones take ona geforce go 6150 card and chipset17:55
adz21chasse_: the settings are not saved to your configs, are you selecting applying to configs?17:56
eagles0513875ardchoille how can i turn off dma when trying to boot off live cd17:56
adz21chasse_: "Save to X Configuration File"17:57
eagles0513875how do i turn off dma when booting off the live cd17:57
jussi01!repeat | eagles051387517:59
ubotueagles0513875: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience17:59
kaminix^genii: fsck is doing some stuff with blocks, it's taking up all my memory. This crashed my laptop earlier today... what do I do? :s18:00
hasse_adz21c, yes it's saved,18:00
azloni have an external HD which i plugged in via USB, but Kubuntu doesnt recognize it18:00
azlonhow can i mount it?18:00
artur_which one is better? Sodipodi or Inkscape ?18:00
geniikaminix^: Wait18:00
eagles0513875kaminix^ try this18:01
azlonsudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1 fat32 ??18:01
geniikaminix^: It's reordering the drive18:01
eagles0513875kaminix^ sudo shutdown -F -r now that will force an fsck at boot it shouldnt crash then18:01
kaminix^But it will crash, it takes up all my mem and all my swap!18:01
jussi01artur_: I like inkscape18:01
eagles0513875kaminix^ sudo shutdown -F -r now that will force an fsck at boot it shouldnt crash then18:01
eagles0513875try that it shoudlnt crash on ya that wya18:01
kaminix^eagles0513875: Why wouldn't it crash if it does it on boot? :s18:01
MysticstarWHERE can I find HOW to upgrade to a new version of Kubuntu without LOSING all my file18:01
eagles0513875kaminix^ u dont have anything loaded into memory yet18:02
eagles0513875and it doesnt have the desktop environment to deal with either18:02
kaminix^But it was taking up a full gigabyte of swap + some of the 512MB ram? :s18:03
max32167help18:04
eagles0513875it could also be its trying to reorganize files that r locked. also thats why its suggested to run fsck during boot nothing is being locked by the user or the os18:04
max32167++  -I -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -MD -c -O3 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer   -ftemplate-depth-35 unix_chunker_yacc.cpp -o unix_chunker_yacc.orst18:04
max32167In file included from ChunkParser.h:10,18:04
max32167                 from chunker.y:6:18:04
max32167MyFlexLexer.h:4:24: error: FlexLexer.h: No such file or directory18:04
clf-torontohi, is adept mgr connected to apt-*?18:04
sub[t]rnl!upgrade > Mysticstar18:04
max32167how do install m4 library ?18:04
eagles0513875clf-toronto yes it is18:05
sub[t]rnlclf-toronto➜ yes, its a front end18:05
artur_jussi01: Thnx. both are used for the same kind of task, right?18:05
max32167also please help install yacc and flex package18:05
max32167sudo get ... ?18:05
clf-torontoi downloaded a dvd of kubuntu 6.06lts, then i installed it, and it was the basic install, so i am now trying to get more apps off of the dvd18:05
eagles0513875clf-toronto u have to download them from the repositories18:05
sub[t]rnlmax32167➜ sudo apt-get install <packages>18:05
clf-torontodoes that mean there's a adept mgr equivalent of apt-cdrom add?18:06
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MGalaxyPLZ suggest me a PDF-Printer+JPG,PNG, ....Printer18:06
theunixgeekHi. I want to create a very simple database in OpenOffice.org Base to store words, their definitions, synonyms, and antonyms. Could anyone either step me through it or point me to a tutorial?18:06
eagles0513875clf-toronto adept is same as apt apt is the command line side and adept is the front end gui so u dont have to know command line commands18:06
max32167sub[t]rnl how do i find package name?18:06
max32167can you find it for me??18:06
sub[t]rnlmax32167➜ apt-cache search <package>18:06
max32167thanx18:06
max32167you've helped me a lot18:07
max32167m4 - a macro processing language18:07
max32167i found it18:07
sigma_1234is there a pdf creator version for linux?18:07
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sub[t]rnlclf-toronto➜ apt-cdrom is built into adept manager, just add a cdrom in the repo manager on the gui18:08
clf-torontoare tags like "package groups" in RH speak?18:08
clf-torontosub[t]rnl: coool, but how?18:09
max32167what is common notepad name in linux>?18:09
sigma_1234!pdf18:09
clf-torontoby the way thanks for being so helpful18:09
ubotupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)18:09
clf-torontoi really appreciate everyone's time18:09
clf-torontosub[t]rnl: because there's a field: New Repository:18:09
sub[t]rnlclf-toronto➜ open adept manager then adept -> manage repositories -> third party software -> add cdrom18:09
clf-torontois that where I would type in cdrom, and then hit the Apply button?18:09
zeropointoWhy do so many updates fail? (Adept)18:10
sigma_1234dont update!18:11
TuXmanyeah..18:11
TuXmanwhynot?18:11
TuXmanwynaut?18:11
zeropointosigma_1234: that's essentially where i'm at with it.18:12
clf-torontosub[t]rnl: (there's no Third Party software button or field in Adept Mgr)18:12
clf-torontosub[t]rnl: but i think i do see the result of my apt-cdrom add.18:13
zeropointoi can't trust any update because so many fail.18:13
clf-torontothere's a cdrom:[Kubuntu 6.06.1 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060807)]/ listed18:13
sigma_1234because you're more likely to break something than fix anything18:13
zeropointosome times causing damage18:13
clf-torontoso whoever said apt-get and adept mgr is tied together is totally right :-)18:13
theunixgeekAnyone good with OpenOffice.org Base and would like to help a newbie? :)18:13
zeropointoyeah i've noticed that18:13
zeropointosigma_1234: what the hells up with that?18:13
sigma_1234its hard to create updates that work for everyone. thats just how software is18:15
zeropointowell most of them are failing during the update process.18:16
zeropointoleaving changes unfinished18:16
zeropointothe majority work fine18:16
zeropointoa select few leave my system fk'd up.18:16
sigma_1234why not just update when new releases come out?18:16
theunixgeek!language | zeropointo18:17
ubotuzeropointo: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.18:17
zeropointobecause i'm a completist?18:17
sigma_12346months is really not a long time to wait18:17
vermuxwhy cant I go into administrative mode in System settings? I enter the password, but it never goes into the administrative mode. I've just deluser and add that user18:17
zeropointoI simply installed Kubuntu on a virtual machine to try out KDE4.18:18
sigma_1234try using kcontrol instead of system settings18:18
zeropointoi'm an american 6 minutes are a long time.18:19
zeropointotry waiting for a kidney for 6 months :P18:20
zeropointoOS upgrades are no less important. imho18:20
zeropointohaha18:20
elmokhtarvbn18:20
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clf-torontotoo bad ubuntuforums.org is pwned, i can't read any articles18:22
zorglu_q. will kubuntu 8.04 default to kde4 or kde3 ?18:22
clf-torontois ubuntuforums.org working for yall?18:22
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clf-torontozorglu_: i read 418:22
clf-toronto*shrug*18:22
zorglu_clf-toronto: hmm uncool18:22
clf-torontozorglu_: why is kde4 uncool?18:23
LopinOkay...  I need help with server, and no one will help me in Ubuntu.  I keep hanging on install...18:23
nevilleIs it just me, or is it that after that last xserver update, it keeps blitzing itself and dumping me back to the login screen every so often?18:23
zorglu_clf-toronto: unstable dev code18:23
clf-torontozorglu_: what are you doing at work that requires so much stability?18:23
zorglu_clf-toronto: not at all ready to be used daytoday in a work env18:24
zorglu_clf-toronto: i use my boxes to work :)18:24
clf-torontoyou haven't answered my question, WHAT do you do at work18:24
zorglu_?18:24
clf-torontoWHAT do you do, you can't trust to kde418:24
zorglu_clf-toronto: im a programmer. but how is that relevant18:25
zorglu_clf-toronto: i need my computer to work18:25
zorglu_clf-toronto: no crash :) so no kde4 :)18:25
clf-torontoyou make it sound like kde4 is in alpha and they are bundling alpha code w/ ubuntu18:25
zeropointoKDE4 worked fine for me.18:25
zorglu_good for you :)18:25
zeropointoBut it was a boring change.18:25
zorglu_i crashed it twice in 20min :)18:25
clf-torontozorglu_: you are making a lot of noise out of nothing18:26
zeropointoNot nearly as exciting as I was expecting.18:26
clf-torontoimho18:26
zorglu_clf-toronto: you are entitled to your opinion18:26
zorglu_now i need to be sure 8.04 will default to kde318:26
zeropointoI think the interface was less "cool" than KDE318:26
zorglu_kde418:26
zeropointoi'd rank it a 3 out of 5 on the coolometer.18:27
zorglu_i just want it not to crash :)18:27
zorglu_the 'coolness' doesnt interest me much :)18:27
OnyxI'm trying to select a different style for the domino theme... anyone know how to do this?  it's been a while...18:27
clf-torontozorglu_: perhaps it is best to use a older ubuntu version, and use kde4 and 8.04 on a spare box until you feel it will serve you fine18:27
Vermuxok, so this is the problem:  I just deluser and adduser. In gui I tried to open Adept_manager. it asked me for the password but dissapeared!18:27
zeropointobut cool is everything that's why people are upgrading to vista isn't it?18:28
zorglu_clf-toronto: currenlty kde4.1 is planned around end-summer 200818:28
zeropointoand KDE4 is trying to immitate Vista & OSX right?18:28
Onyxzeropointo: Downgrading.18:28
zeropointoLess Vista, more OSX would be a good thing imo.18:28
zeropointoKDE and GNOME should rip off OSX as much as possible.18:29
zorglu_zeropointo: the widget are ultra close to vista one tho:)18:29
clf-torontospeaking of KDE, i filled out the inquiry form at TrollTech to purchase Qt Desktop for Windows and Mac, and the sales person called me back adn say we have to talk over the phone.18:29
clf-torontoThis sounds like one of those situations where they grab you by the feet, and shake until all of the money falls out.18:29
clf-torontoQt Desktop either has a list price or it's consultantware, TT needs to figure out where they are on this.18:30
tzdi need help with installing a few window managers (iceWM, WindowMaker and Blackbox) in Kubuntu if that's possible?18:32
VermuxWho can help?  I just deluser and adduser. In gui I tried to open Adept_manager. it asked me for the password but dissapeared!18:32
JuJuBeeAnybody know of software that will remove pdf password and convert pdf to a openoffice or word document?  I find a few for windows, but none for linux18:33
nevilleJust try the Windows ones in Wine18:34
clf-torontohow do I install enough to do C++ development? In Adept Mgr I see something called tags.18:34
clf-torontoIs there a tag that will do this?18:34
zorglu_!build-essentials18:35
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)18:35
zorglu_clf-toronto: install the above18:35
JuJuBeeChArLoK_16 : that will only remove passwd. I found a cheaper one for windows.18:36
VermuxWho can help?  I just deluser and adduser. In gui I tried to open Adept_manager. it asked me for the password but dissapeared!18:36
clf-torontozorglu_: so build-essential is it?18:37
zorglu_clf-toronto: yep it is a metapackage for that18:37
clf-torontothen from there maybe add a emacs for X and I am good to go?18:37
clf-torontozorglu_++18:37
zorglu_clf-toronto: this package will give you the usual tools to build. if you want a text editor, this is up to you :)18:38
zorglu_clf-toronto: personnaly i use eclipse + cdt for writing c++18:38
clf-torontozorglu_ you are a beautiful man, thanks18:38
zorglu_clf-toronto: not necessarly the best but i know it18:38
Vermuxwhich tool is the best in Kubunutu for adding users?18:39
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archtuxjust use kcontrol18:40
archtuxor systemsettings18:40
Vermuxarchtux: ok, when I go to user management in system settings and click on administrative mode, nothing happans18:42
basywhen i set timeout of screensaver to 1minute in dafalt desktop settings... my screensaver did nit start after 1 minutr but black screen starts after 5 minutes... Any idea where or what to set? i am on kubuntu 7.10 65bit...18:43
archtuxyou should get a pop-up to enter your password18:43
archtuxand then you can add remove users18:43
Vermuxarchtux: I did not get one18:43
clf-torontoa lot of goodness in the comunity docs, i am going to spend some time reading18:43
clf-torontobbiab18:43
archtuxwell that is the reason why i use archlinux at the moment18:43
archtuxsorry cant help you there18:43
Vermuxarchtux: who can help me with that?18:44
archtuxwhat kind of usermanagement do you want to do18:44
flipmodeI just installed a new dvd writer and cant get it to read any ideas? Kubuntu 7.1018:44
archtuxcause everything can allso bur done from the commandline wich is easier and faster then kcontrol or systemsettings18:45
VermuxThere was an error saving the image: /home/UserName/.face.icon18:45
michaelnovakjrdoes anyone know a fix for the problem with adept commit changes? Basically failing while trying to install a package18:46
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sirinamoin moin18:48
sirinato all of the ppl here: tryin to start kontact gives me this error: "kontact: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeprint.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" <-- do you know, what and the "shared object file" is and where it can be found?18:48
ibilicI cannot write to my USB flash memory18:48
ibilici can read it though18:48
Vermuxarchtux: something is not working well here18:48
ibilicany ideas?18:48
Vermuxwhen I go to user management in system settings and click on administrative mode, nothing happans18:49
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archtuxibilic: check your permissions18:52
lewishi18:52
archtuxsorry Vermux i have to go, dont know a solution for your problem at this moment18:53
Vermuxarchtux: thanks for trying18:53
eagles0513875now i have another problem18:54
eagles0513875i some how managed to get onto the desktop but for some reason during install my system locked up restarted and have not been able to get back on teh live cd18:55
eagles0513875whats the difference between regular iso and the alternative18:55
nevilleAlternative gives you text installer18:55
nevilleDon't think it has live component, which makes it suited to weaker hardware18:56
eagles0513875neville do u have any idea why my machine will only boot into the desktop18:56
eagles0513875once in a while18:56
eagles0513875i checked the cd for defects which it has none18:56
nevilleTried safe graphics mode?18:56
eagles0513875yes i tried both normal18:56
eagles0513875and18:56
nevilleHow much RAM do you have18:56
eagles0513875but some reason sometimes with either or i get my screen just displaying bright colors18:56
eagles05138752gb18:56
eagles0513875i have vista on here so i need the ram18:57
sirinalol18:57
eagles0513875whats so funny sirina18:57
nevilleAnd, when it doesn't make it to the Desktop, does it leave you on the command line?18:57
eagles0513875nope18:57
sirinavista is funny.18:57
eagles0513875fin suxs18:57
nevilleWhat does it do then, when it doesn't make it to the desktop18:58
Tm_T!ot18:58
jussi01eagles0513875: I suggest you try the alternate cd18:58
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!18:58
eagles0513875could it be a compatibility issue with the processor18:59
eagles0513875im also getting bios error #8118:59
noaXesshi folks18:59
noaXesswasup18:59
nevilleCould be wrong, but try disabling ACPI?18:59
eagles0513875neville how18:59
nevilleIn your BIOS19:00
noaXesshow can i insert an extra symol over kde? i have the KCharSelect tool installed and see there the unicode point..19:00
noaXessfor eg. the copyright symbol.. on windows i can press ALT+ 016919:00
noaXesshow does this work in kde?19:01
eagles0513875i have a turion x2 tl58 could the processor be causing it cuz i just googled bios error 81 with someone who has a turion in his machine19:01
eagles0513875but no solution19:01
eagles0513875ill try disabling acpi in the bios19:01
nevilleOkay, fingers crossed19:01
eagles0513875tell me bout it19:01
OscarHi guys!19:01
OscarIs there any way to mount mdf/mds in Linux?19:01
OscarLike daemon tools in windows?19:02
JoshOvkiDid you try google first?19:03
JoshOvkiOscar: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/06/mount-and-unmount-isomdfnrg-images.html19:03
bascule!info kiso19:04
ubotukiso (source: kiso): program to create manipulate and extract CD Image. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 346 kB, installed size 1052 kB19:04
flipmodeI cant watch movies with a new dvd writer i installed it says cant read disc but plays the disc for about 10 seconds before it tells mr this any ideas?19:05
suihi19:05
basculeit's faulty?19:05
basculeflipmode: see if it will boot a dvd and run OK for a while19:06
flipmodeIt worked in my other computer fine running Ubuntu19:06
earthcreedCan you do anything else with dvd writer?  Is it a "movie watching specific" problem.19:06
flipmodebascule: it boots it fine it comes up on desktop but when i try to open it it gives me errors ive tried a number of apps and they all give different errors19:08
basculeno I meant boot a bootable dvd, like some live distro, ubuntu dvd knoppix dvd, but as earthcreed said can you copy data frim it ok? either of those tests will help find if it is faulty19:10
basculeflipmode: ^19:10
flipmodeit is playing a cd now fine19:10
flipmodeI wiull try a ubuntu cd19:11
lewis\19:11
basculeflipmode: can it burn, it isn't a TSSTcorp thing is it?19:11
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basculeflipmode: no DVD that is important19:11
basculeit could play cds all night long and still be faulty with dvds19:11
flipmodeit is reading the ubuntu live disc fine it opens in a new window with everything on the cd19:12
flipmodeI have no blank discs to try to burn right now19:12
basculeflipmode: a DVD is what you need to test with, some data DVD19:12
flipmodebascule: I am at work and have no data dvds here19:13
basculeoh wel19:13
basywhat can i use for finding special caracters on kubuntu?19:13
flipmodeonly videos19:13
earthcreedHrm, have you tried setting up to watch DVDs like it says to here? https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html19:13
lupulis there any other software alike beryl?19:14
lupul!beryl19:14
ubotuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz19:14
basculebasy: kcharselect19:14
earthcreedBecause of encrypted formats you have to jump through hoops to watch commercial movies.19:14
mefisto__earthcreed: you mean dvds?19:15
earthcreedYep19:15
basytankx19:15
mefisto__I never jumped through any hoops, I can watch them fine19:16
basculemefisto__: you can watch CSS DVD movies without manually adding medibuntu source?19:17
mefisto__you mean adding medibuntu sources is jumping through hoops?19:18
basculesure, doesn't *just work*19:18
yurikHi, did anyone experienced locale problems in KDE4? When I login into KDE4 session with KDM4 I get empty LANG variable.19:20
tekteen!kde419:20
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde419:20
yuriktekteen: thanks19:20
tekteennp19:20
Vermuxwho can help? When I go to system settings and try to go to Administrative mode nothing happans19:24
nosrednaekimVermux: are you in kde4?19:24
Vermuxkubuntu gusty19:24
tekteenVermux: type alt+f219:24
Vermux3.5.219:25
tekteenin the box type kdesu systemsettings19:25
Vermuxtekteen: nothing happans19:26
tekteenwhen you type alt+f2?19:26
Vermuxno, when I type kdse...19:26
tekteenkdesu systemsettings19:26
Vermuxtekteen: yes19:27
Vermuxthe box dissapears and nothing else happans19:27
tekteentry kdesu systemsettings19:27
tekteenkdesudo19:27
tekteeninstead of kdesu19:27
Vermuxtekteen: the same thing19:28
tekteenok19:28
nosrednaekimyou may have to click "options->run as root"19:28
Vermuxwhere?19:28
Vermuxit doesnt let me19:28
Vermuxthe Run box is grayed out19:29
Vermuxeven though Im typing the root passwd19:29
nosrednaekimVermux: on the bottom of the run dialog..19:29
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Vermuxnosrednaekim: which command shell I Run?19:30
Vermuxkdesu?19:30
nosrednaekimVermux: no, without the kdesu, click options and then run as root before hitting enter19:30
Vermuxnosrednaekim: u mean, run as a different user box?19:31
nosrednaekimVermux: i'm not exactly sure.... because I am using kde4.19:31
Vermuxit says incorrect password19:32
nosrednaekimhrm...19:32
nosrednaekimVermux: open a konsole and run "kdesudo systemsettings"19:32
Zombocomhow do I output whatever is playing on my speakers19:32
Zombocomlike it's being heard by my mic?19:32
VermuxXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server19:33
VermuxXlib: No protocol specified19:33
Vermuxkdesudo: cannot connect to X server :019:33
Vermuxnosrednaekim: ^19:33
Zombocomlike if I'm playing a song and I want someone I'm calling through my computer to hear it19:33
Zombocomhow do I make it go through the mic thing19:33
geniikdesu <> kdesudo19:33
Zombocomis kdesu == kdesudo?19:33
jpatrickyse19:33
jpatrickit's syslinked19:33
nosrednaekimgenii: what?19:34
nosrednaekimZombocom: hmm no clue.19:34
jpatricknosrednaekim: too much Visual Basic19:34
nosrednaekimXD19:34
Vermuxnosrednaekim: ?19:34
Zombocomlol thanks nosrednaekim19:35
geniinosrednaekim: "[14:33:03] <Vermux> kdesudo: cannot connect to X server :0"    note kdesudo there and not kdesu19:35
nosrednaekimgenii: and.....19:35
kaminixgenii: Hello again, I rebooted and tried to do the fsck thingie in the cmd thingie, it went suicidal due to memory problems and killed itself. :s19:35
Vermuxgenii: ?19:36
geniikaminix: memory problems? Even if the drive itself went, sholdn't affect the ram19:36
Zombocomguys19:37
Zombocomsound card19:37
kaminixThe fsck program took up all my RAM and couldn't continue :p19:37
Zombocomhow do I use19:37
nosrednaekim!enter19:37
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!19:37
nosrednaekimZombocom: ask in #alsa19:37
Zombocomah19:37
Zombocomthanks19:37
geniiVermux: Just humour me and put instead kdesu instead of kdesudo for it19:37
Zombocomsorry for using enter as a punctuation19:37
clf-torontoZombocom: did you just apologize to a bot?19:39
Vermuxgenii: the same problem19:39
clf-torontoI for one welcome our robotic overlords.19:39
geniikaminix: Did you try to boot to Recovery kernel and run fsck on it yet?19:39
kaminixgenii: Is there anyway to just... well...rebuild the super block from scratch?19:39
Zombocomclf-toronto I was apologising to nosrednaekim19:39
tesshello evbd, first time on irc, can any one explain me ( better if french ^^ )19:39
nosrednaekim!fr19:40
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.19:40
kaminixgenii: No, but the fsck thingie takes up all my ram :/19:40
tessthank you - but, was it a bot ??19:40
geniikaminix: No real way to rebuild a specific superblock. You have to specify the next alternate one to be used. Since it's usually physical damage doing this.19:40
Zombocomubotu is a bot19:40
ubotuYes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.19:40
Zombocom!ubotu19:40
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots19:40
Vermuxwho can help? Even though I click on Administrative mode in system settings I never goes into Administrative mode19:41
kaminixgenii: This is not physical. It was an aborted fsck thingie that did this. :/19:41
nosrednaekimVermux: try runnign "kdesu systemsettings" from a konsole19:41
geniiBah, worl AFK a while19:41
osh_I upgraded my box to gutsy a few hours ago. Now I can't log in anymore. When KDM is supposed to show the screen goes "black" and the computer hangs. Any idea on how to fix it? I've tried reconfigure xorg. I've seen a lot about it in forums but nothing really appropriate. Is there some tutorial somewhere?19:41
Vermuxnosrednaekim: ok, I got this message: Your username is unknown to sudo!19:43
nosrednaekimVermux: ah! is this not the original user of the computer?19:43
nosrednaekimosh_: were you using any proprietary video drivers?19:44
Vermuxnosrednaekim: no, I deleted and added the user again19:44
osh_nosrednaekim: Don't think so. Not sure though. is there an easy fix?19:44
osh_nosrednaekim: looking in xorg.conf I seem to have "ati" as the driver, although fglrx is installed on my system.19:44
kaminixgenii: What was the link you sent me earlier?19:45
kaminixnm, found it. http://sysadminforum.com/t191461.html19:45
nosrednaekimVermux: ah ok... you need to add this user to the sudo and admin groups, do "sudo nano /etc/group" ad it should be fairly sefl-explanatory19:45
nosrednaekimosh_: uninstall that fglrx driver19:46
mefisto__osh_: did the upgrade completely finish? have you tried to use apt-get to make sure there are no problems and everything is up to date?19:46
osh_nosrednaekim: Ok, will do.19:46
osh_mefisto__: The upgrade didn't report any problems.19:46
osh_mefisto__: So I think it went ok. No extra packages needs to be installed.19:47
Vermuxnosrednaekim: nothing happans when I type it : sudo nano /etc/group19:48
nosrednaekimVermux: in a konsole?19:48
nosrednaekimVermux: oh... right, because you aren't in the sudo group...19:49
osh_nosrednaekim: Then what? Just try to start X again?19:49
nosrednaekimuhh oh, dillema here19:49
Vermuxnosrednaekim: yes, in Konsole19:49
nosrednaekimosh_: what are you loggedinto right now?19:49
osh_nosrednaekim: rescue-mode. whenever I try to start X the comp "freezes". Hard reset is only option. Annoying.19:50
Jeroihow to update 64bit system into 32bit?19:50
nosrednaekimosh_: hmm in recovery mode, run "startx"19:50
nosrednaekimJeroi: you need to reinstall19:50
Zombocomalsa does nothing19:51
JeroiI dont want to remove all my kubuntu settings in 64bit19:51
Jeroijust by reinstalling 32bit system19:51
Zombocomupdate?19:51
Zombocom64 bit is the future19:51
Jeroinot really19:51
nosrednaekimJeroi: back up your /home19:51
osh_nosrednaekim: did that. freeze again. tried after the "reset" that I had to do in case the fglrx-driver was still loaded as a kernel-module.19:51
Jeroias windows 7 will be 32bit still19:51
osh_Zombocom: Future? I've been running 64-bit for the past 10 yrs or so. :-)19:52
Zombocomlol19:52
osh_Zombocom: Not on linux though.19:52
Zombocomlol19:52
nosrednaekimosh_: wait... it still happened even after fglrx was no longer in the kernel?19:53
osh_nosrednaekim: yeah. I purged xorg-somethign-fgrlx and some other fglrx-control but the machine still hangs when trying to start X. tried a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to see if that helps matters.19:54
geniiJeroi: If you don't want to keep switching back and forth from 32 to 64 you may be interested in getlibs, info is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47479019:54
osh_nosrednaekim: Could it be problems with the sync-rate because now it looks like the monitor goes into some sort of "sleep" mode. Last I tried it just went black/blank.19:55
nosrednaekimosh_: ok, so you can't even go to alt+f2?19:55
nosrednaekimctrl+alt+f219:55
Zombocomguys why does control+alternate+F1 SHOW NOTHING19:55
ZombocomNOTHING19:55
Zombocombut a blinking cursor19:56
osh_nosrednaekim: nope, nothing, no ctrl-alt-f2, no ctrl-alt-backspace, ctrl-alt-delete, completely frozen. :-(19:56
borncrazyhi19:57
osh_nosrednaekim: really annoying.19:57
geniiosh_: Are all 3 capslock scroll-lock and numlock lights flashing?19:57
borncrazyi edited my fonts.conf file and now my fonts looks like this: http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loliz0.png19:57
nosrednaekimosh_: ouch.... um on next reboot, try looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log19:58
borncrazywhat do i do now?19:58
osh_genii: Not during freeze. They blink breifly during bootup I think, but that's normal behaviour I think.19:58
osh_nosrednaekim: Got the Xorg-log. What am I looking for? EE? WW?19:59
geniiosh_: Yes, brief blink at boot means motherboard test was good. if all 3 blink on/off repeatedly in a freeze situation it means usually a kernel dump19:59
ubuntugm20:00
MarcipicusI'm having a problem with the automount feature of Kubuntu. When I insert a disc it gets mounted to /media/CDROM instead of /media/cdrom0. Note: Only matters because of apt-cdrom20:00
osh_genii: Ah, no, no kernel dumps what I can see. Something interesting in Xorg-log though. WW: RADEION: No matching device section for instance. Does that mean anything to you guys?20:00
nosrednaekimosh_: I don't know... anything that looks wrong :)20:00
osh_nosrednaekim: See the comment to genii. There's a warning there about RADEON and a device section.20:01
borncrazycan anyone please help me?20:01
nosrednaekimosh_: hmmm do device section for the PCID maybe...20:01
nosrednaekim*no20:01
Dr_willisMarcipicus,   On my system /media/cdrom is a link to /media/cdrom0 so it dosent matter.20:02
osh_nosrednaekim: Yeah, I think so. BusID PCI:1:0:1. Something about that. What does that mean?20:02
osh_nosrednaekim: Also, isn't "RADEON" the proprietary driver?20:03
Marcipicusit isn't a link though it's an actual directory that gets created when I load the disc  so I don't know why it's doing that20:03
nosrednaekimno. radeon is the FOSS one20:03
geniiosh_: Looks like an xorg.conf misconfig then eg: No matching device section     <-- in xorg.conf presumably20:03
nosrednaekimosh_: you say you ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?20:03
geniiosh_: older radeon driver not proprietary. The newer driver is named fglrx not radeon20:04
osh_nosrednaekim: Ah. Ok. Good to know. Yes, I did. Just a few minutes ago. In xorg.conf the PCI-section does say  "BusID PCI:1:0:0" which isn't the same as in the xorg-log.20:04
MarcipicusDr_Willis: I looked in the fstab and it says my cdrom drives' mount points are /media/cdrom1 and /media/cdrom020:04
osh_nosrednaekim: Also, the "Driver" is specified as "ati". Should that be "radeon" instead?20:05
geniiosh_: note mis-spelling of radeon there, eg: RADEION  with an I anlso in uppercase where the actual driver name should be lowercase20:05
osh_genii: Ok, but the dpkg-reconfigure put "ati" in xorg.conf for me. I didn't choose anything.20:05
geniiosh_: Thats fine. ati driver is the generic. You can manually change ati in there to radeon afterwards if you really have one20:06
Dr_willisMarcipicus,  look in /media/ not the fstab. It may be your /media/cdrom link is pointing to the other cdrom drive then what you want.20:06
Dr_willisMarcipicus,  you could always remove the cdrom link. and edit the fstab to make them mount to cdrom if you wanted20:06
osh_genii: changed it and tried X. Still the black screen that's "frozen". Unfortunatly.20:07
nosrednaekimosh_: do a lspci and see which bus the card is really on20:07
osh_nosrednaekim: ATI Thecnologies INC RV350 (Radeon 9800 XT)20:07
nosrednaekimosh_: for exampe 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP]20:08
geniiosh_: Perhaps you specified wrong bus location as nosrednaekim suggests. Use whatever lspci gives you there20:08
borncrazyi edited my fonts.conf file and now my fonts looks like this: http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loliz0.png help me please20:08
osh_nosrednaekim: Ignore spelling. 01:00.0 according to lspci, that looks about the same as in xorg.conf where it sais 1:0:0 instead.20:08
nosrednaekimosh_: also, is this a built in card or an external one? if external, do you have an internal?20:08
MarcipicusDr_Willis: it isn't the link though. When I insert a disc, the directory /media/CDROM(used ls -l)  is created, which isn't in the fstab so apt-cdrom can't detect it20:09
nosrednaekimosh_: hmm yes, that looks ok.20:09
osh_nosrednaekim: it's an external card (meaning not included in the motherboard) it's a normal desktop machine.20:09
MarcipicusDr_Willis: sorry, missed your second post. That might work for me actually. thanks20:10
nosrednaekimosh_: does your motherboard have onboard video?20:10
osh_nosrednaekim: don't know if I have an internal. lspci | grep -i vga only shows this card.20:10
Dr_willisMarcipicus,  thats.. odd that its using /media/CDROM not lowercase..20:10
nosrednaekimosh_: with capital VGA?20:10
Dr_willisbut it may be doing it because you have the 2 drive4s.20:11
nosrednaekimoh -i.. never mind ;)20:11
osh_nosrednaekim: =)20:11
osh_nosrednaekim: Odd that xorg-log complains about PCI 1:0:1 isn't it?20:11
nosrednaekimosh_: that is so weird....I supopse it would be quite hard for you to pastebin your log file and xorg.conf20:11
MarcipicusDr_Willis: I know, it did it to me before and the only way I could fix it was to reinstall and cross my fingers20:11
osh_nosrednaekim: it's possible. hang on.20:12
nosrednaekimosh_: that would be most helpful... thanks20:12
* genii passes around some mugs of coffee20:14
DogfaceHi everyone.  I'm kinda new to Kubuntu.  Does anyone here know for sure if 'DailyStrips' (a comic strip harvesting script) can be installed on a Mac?20:14
Dr_willisMarcipicus,  gee.. i would of just mounted the cd manually. :) much faster then reinstalling to work around a quirk in the automounting system20:14
Dr_willis!info DailyStrips20:14
ubotudailystrips (source: dailystrips): view web comic strips more conveniently. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.28-4.1 (gutsy), package size 65 kB, installed size 272 kB20:14
nosrednaekimDogface: does it have any kinda of GUI?20:15
Dr_willisHmm.. depends on what its written in.  :)20:15
MarcipicusDr_willis: I know, I had just started working with linux though and it was the fastest solution for me.20:15
mefisto__any reason why my home dir would not be displaying (in console or konqueror)?20:16
Dr_willisim wondering how the cdroms get automounted when theres a entry for them in fstab. They must be a special case.20:16
osh_nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52918/20:16
theunixgeekCan I have items in an OpenOffice Base table be numbered?20:16
nosrednaekimthanks20:16
Marcipicusit didn't do it on my laptop, or my friend's computer though so I don't have a clue what causes it20:17
theunixgeekAllow me to rephrase that: How can I have items in an OpenOffice Base table be numbered.20:17
Marcipicushow does one find more irc channels?20:18
Dr_willis - /list command shows them all20:18
Dr_willis!channels20:18
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines20:18
Marcipicus!channels20:18
Dr_willisThere can be several thousand channels if not more on a irc server. :P20:18
osh_nosrednaekim: did you see my pastebin?20:19
Marcipicuswicked thanks alot20:19
* osh_ is trying kde4.0.0. It's a very .0 release. 20:20
DogfaceThanks Dr_Willis   (<Dr_willis> !info DailyStrips)20:20
* osh_ still likes it.20:20
sergi#catalunya20:20
nosrednaekimosh_: looking.. yeah I like kde4 :)20:20
sergilist20:20
osh_sergi: you need to put a / first.20:20
osh_sergi: type /list20:20
geniinosrednaekim: Line 79 of his xorg looks wrong20:21
nosrednaekimgenii: look at lines 209-210.... what the heck?20:21
Marcipicusis the '/' character a special character for irc in general or just konversation20:21
Dr_willis!irc20:21
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines20:21
osh_genii:20:21
osh_Marcipicus: for irc20:21
Dr_willis /nick I_Love_Irc20:21
geniino wait my eyes are going buggy20:21
nosrednaekimgenii: umm whats wrong with line 79?20:22
azlonhow can i modify an iso image? i want to change the boot file20:22
Dr_willis!info kiso20:23
ubotukiso (source: kiso): program to create manipulate and extract CD Image. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 346 kB, installed size 1052 kB20:23
osh_azlon: mount it I suppose?20:23
Dr_willisNormally you cant change the .iso file with mounting it.20:23
nosrednaekim!remaster20:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remaster - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:23
osh_azlon: or use kiso. =)20:23
azlonkiso? just run that from the terminal?20:24
osh_Dr_willis: Can't you loop-mount an iso rw?20:24
Dr_willisInstall it. :) run it.. read its docs...20:24
Dr_willisosh_,  i dont think you can.20:24
osh_Dr_willis: Ah. I'm sure you know better than me. That would have been my first attempt though.20:24
ScorpKinggenii , nosrednaekim: plz fill me in on the log20:24
osh_ScorpKing: My xorg-log?20:25
Dr_willisosh_,  you could try it and see I guess. :)20:25
nosrednaekimosh_: is this a dial-head capable card?20:25
ScorpKingyes20:25
DFlamehullo, quick Q. I'd like to write a small script of commands that are run in konsole. I'm under the impression i put them line by line in a file but I'm unsure how to save or run it. Anyone point me the right way?20:25
ScorpKingah, wait. nvm20:25
* ScorpKing reads up..20:25
nosrednaekimosh_: or is it in crossfire or something? its showing TWO cards...20:25
Dr_willisDFlame,  just make a simple text file with whatever text editor you like20:25
Dr_willisexapmple script. 3 lines.20:26
Dr_willis#!/bin/bash20:26
Dr_willisecho "hello world"20:26
Dr_willisls -al20:26
Dr_willis There ya go. :)20:26
tsbWhen I try to restart KDE into another partition, the logout screen disapears and suddenly I can't restart my commputer at all without doing a "sudo reboot" or something. It is a bit like https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase/+bug/57066 only I don't even get a restart.. Anyone seen this before?20:26
osh_nosrednaekim: I think so. It does have a dvi port (it's called dvi, right?). It's the next thing I'll try since I just got a second screen.20:26
geniiosh_: Do you have 2 monitors there?20:26
osh_ScorpKing: The trouble is that when I try to start X the machine freezes and goes black (the screen). Hard reset is the only remedy.20:27
osh_genii: Not connected atm (and never has been).20:27
geniiosh20:27
geniibah20:27
osh_genii: yet.20:27
max32167guys i can't compile pcre 7.4 lib, plase help with permisions, i have a such message20:27
ScorpKingosh_: hm.. modules maybe20:27
max32167usr/bin/install: cannot create regular file `/usr/local/lib/libpcrecpp.so.0.0.0': Permission denied20:28
Darkrift412how do i check my kubuntu version again?20:28
nosrednaekimosh_: can you possibly plug the monitor into the other output?20:28
geniiosh_: I suspect you are plugging into the secondary right now, which is undefined in xorg20:28
osh_ScorpKing: the trouble started after I upgraded from feisty to gutsy.20:28
val0does anyone know how to make a window transparent? I have two consoles running and i want them to be without borders and transparant (so I can see the desktop and keep them above other windows without too much hassle)20:28
nosrednaekimlsb_release -a Darkrift41220:28
nosrednaekimval0: you will need compiz20:29
ScorpKingosh_: still catching up on everything. don't go away20:29
Darkrift412damn20:29
nosrednaekimval0: or kwin420:29
val0arg ok20:29
osh_genii: nosrednaekim: sure, but the rescue-cd shows things on my screen. it's just X that won't start.20:29
Darkrift412i tried the version upgrade, it failed... now i have 904 updates, but still the same version20:29
val0!compiz20:29
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion20:29
osh_nosrednaekim: genii: My bad. The card only has 1 vga port, 1 dvi.20:30
geniiosh_: Video card designation that bios or default uses  can vary wildly from what X uses20:30
osh_genii: Only the VGA port has ever been used.20:30
nosrednaekimosh_: do you have a dvi to vga adpter?20:31
geniiosh_: Change PC:1:0:0   in xorg.conf to PCI:1:0:1      and try. That will use the secondary without having to dig up a dvi to vga adapter or so on20:31
osh_nosrednaekim: I bought one yesterday. Still in it's wrapping.20:32
osh_genii: will do. hang on. Then just do "startx"?20:32
nosrednaekimgenii: but what if there is no monitor on the secondary?20:32
ScorpKingosh_: ok. to sort out the tty problem try removing "quiet splash" from the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst .that's the only way i know of to get in or boot from recovery mode and then init 220:33
mefisto__Darkrift412: tried "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?20:33
osh_genii, nosrednaekim: Improvement. "No screens found". Still won't work but atleast it didn't hang the machine. =)20:33
ScorpKingosh_: then you won't have to reboot. ;)20:33
osh_ScorpKing: I'm in rescue mode right now. Or do you want me to try a normal boot while showing what's happening?20:34
geniinosrednaekim: If the monitor is already attached to the secondary it will kick in20:35
osh_genii: nosrednaekim: The error (EE) was "No devices detected" so I think the device is at PCI:1:0:0 after all?20:35
ScorpKingosh_: try to get it so you can log into tty1 when it boots.20:35
geniiosh_: Are you in recovery or so? If not then instead of startx use instead:  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart20:35
geniiosh_: or gdm if you have gnome login manager20:36
osh_genii: I'm at recovery yes. "startx" seems to try to start X as I can now see the xorg-error-msgs or in the previous case, lock the screen up (although it does seem to go through some X initialization).20:37
ScorpKinggenii , nosrednaekim , osh_: i have this same problem atm with my nvidia fx5500 so i'll be glad if it get sorted. :)20:37
geniiosh_ please paste the results of: lspci    so we can dblcheck the bus id20:38
mefisto__osh_, ScorpKing: is this a result of upgrade to gutsy?20:39
biovoreScorpKing: some nvidia cards don't like the kernel framebuffer, and you don't get any Text consoles.. in grub append verbose and remove splash20:39
geniimefisto__: Good Q there20:39
osh_genii: sure.20:39
ScorpKingmefisto__: no. for me it just happened and i have no idea why. didn't do any upgrades and it was working fine20:39
azlonhow do i unmount a drive?20:39
azlonbah, nm... ill just reboot20:40
ScorpKingbiovore: yeah, that's the only way i can get into tty120:40
ScorpKingazlon: sudo umount <dev>20:40
mefisto__azlon: "umount /mountpointdir"20:40
osh_genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52921/20:41
osh_nosrednaekim: Hmm, that was for you too. Sorry. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52921/20:42
mefisto__osh_: sorry if this is a stupid suggestion, but have you checked to see if you have any xorg.conf backups?20:43
nosrednaekimhmm two cards!20:43
nosrednaekimwhat the heck? even dual head cards don't take two pci slots.. do they?20:43
osh_mefisto__: Yeah, I've checked that. I've tried the ones that worked before but none that I've tried have worked.20:43
val0ok so i followed the instructions on the ubuntu page on how to install compiz. everything went smooth and without errors, until I got to the CCSM/config stage. can't find ccsm and the config is not in the system setting. any ideas?20:44
osh_nosrednaekim: I'm slightly baffeled too. I don't understand why the card is reported twice.20:44
nosrednaekimval0: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager20:44
val0nosrednaekim I believe that i did that already, but let me double check20:44
val0nosrednaekim obviously not since it's installing right now, thanks!20:45
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jaysonHello people, i have installed KDE4 in Ubuntu 7.10 and something it's wrong, i use a Widescreen 17" Monitor with resolution 1280x720 and the KDE it's wrong anybody can help me ? Here is a Screenshot http://www.kerov.com/Screenshot.png20:45
nosrednaekim`kde420:46
nosrednaekim!kde420:46
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde420:46
sime_guys i installed kubuntu but i cant get any sound20:46
sime_can anybody help me configure the sound card20:46
nosrednaekim!sound20:47
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP320:47
jaysonnosrednaekim> i have followed that tuto20:47
nosrednaekimosh_: notice the second isn't a "vga compatible controller"20:47
nosrednaekimjayson: then support for kde4 is in #kubuntu-kde420:47
jaysonthx20:47
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osh_nosrednaekim: what does that mean?20:48
nosrednaekimosh_: I have no clue.. I have never seen that before20:48
sime_ubotu: yea the sound was enabled20:48
osh_nosrednaekim: You're right. It's an "Display controller". And it's on a different PCI.20:49
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nosrednaekimosh_: but that graphics card IS on;y plugged into one slot, right?20:50
azlonhow can i do a low-level format?20:51
azloni want to remove all partitions and everything20:51
biovoredd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<device>  <-- will wipe the disk completely clean20:52
osh_nosrednaekim: yeah. there seems to be someone else with the same problem. http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=443620:52
osh_nosrednaekim: No help there though, but they display the same text. Both the VGA compatible and the Display driver.20:52
nosrednaekimosh_: do you still have fiesty kernels in grub?20:52
azlonbiovore: how can i get rid of the partitions as well?20:52
nosrednaekimosh_: same video card...20:53
osh_nosrednaekim: Don't think so. I think they were all wiped during the upgrade.20:53
nosrednaekimosh_: hmm thought they stayed around... oh well.20:54
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nosrednaekimosh_: so... try getting that DVI to vga adapter and plugging your screen into the other slot.20:54
geniiThe second display is the DVI, the third as shown in the previous pastebin starting at line 659 there is the TV out20:55
osh_Will do. Hang on. Here's a howto that I just found. Seems to deal with radeons and linux. I'll go fetch that adapter now.20:55
nosrednaekim!br20:56
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.20:56
osh_Booting again now.20:58
sime_wats the sound card on a hp pavilion dv600020:58
osh_With the dvi adapter in place.20:58
nosrednaekimsime_: try "lspci"20:59
nosrednaekimosh_: hope that works...20:59
osh_genii: nosrednaekim: Sorry to report that the error remains.20:59
MIMB1I installed kubuntu 7.10 w/kde4.  When I enabled desktop effects, I got a black screen, and a mousepad.  can someone tell me where to disable desktop effects?20:59
MIMB1er.. mousepointer21:00
MIMB1not mousepad.21:00
nosrednaekimMIMB1: do "rm .kde4/share/config/kwinrc"21:00
ScorpKingosh_ , nosrednaekim: you guys think it might help to boot from a livecd and then copy the xorg.conf file to the disk?21:00
DogfaceI don't have a package (dailystrips) showing in the Adept info.  How do I find the package online to download and install it?21:00
nosrednaekimScorpKing: that probably wouldn't hurt21:01
nosrednaekim!packages21:01
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!21:01
sime_nosrednaekim: would the sound card be listed under audio device21:01
ScorpKingat least X might run again21:01
nosrednaekimsime_: yes21:01
sime_nosrednaekim: thanks21:01
geniiosh_: Scorpking's suggestion should at least give you some baseline X to boot into, likely vesa.21:01
MIMB1nosrednaekim: thanks21:01
osh_ScorpKing: for you I'd just copy xorg.conf to xorg.conf.something, and try to start X. or if that doesn't work try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg21:02
osh_ScorpKing: Have you tried that?21:02
Dogface!Adept21:02
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto21:02
ScorpKingosh_: i have21:02
bachstudiesi installed Oo 2.3.1 and now adept notifier is always telling me the packages are out of date. Any way to tell adept to ignore the Oo install? Would be a shame to remove the updater completely21:02
osh_genii: Shouldn't removing xorg.conf have the same effect?21:02
geniiosh_: I'm not sure the xorg.conf gets re-created on the fly21:03
ScorpKingosh_: i've tried removing it. it doesn't get recreated21:03
osh_genii: No, it doesn't get recreated, but it should start X with some sane defaults, shouldn't it?21:04
geniiosh_: Since I haven't tested that I can't comment much on it's effectiveness :)21:04
ScorpKingosh_: it complained about xorg.conf being missing21:04
osh_ScorpKing: Yeah, it should do that, but then it should start some basic X. It used to do that for me. =)21:05
osh_genii: Unfortunatly I can. It doesn't work. :-/21:05
ScorpKingoh ok. weird21:06
mefisto__osh_: you have "radeon" as driver in xorg.conf. Maybe try changing it to "ati"?21:06
osh_genii: Not for me this time anyway. I do seem to remember that it's been known to work before.21:06
osh_mefisto__: I've tried both ati and radeon. Same result I'm afraid.21:06
geniiosh_: PErhaps try vesa21:07
osh_genii: Yes, vesa works. Whee.21:07
nosrednaekimw00t21:08
nosrednaekimwonder if the fglrx ones work21:08
osh_nosrednaekim: that's the name of the driver to put in xorg.conf?21:08
nosrednaekimosh_: yes,... but you need the fglrx driver first.... just use the restricted-manager-kde to install it21:09
osh_nosrednaekim: now that I know how to get some functionality I'm happy to try some other things too. =)21:09
nosrednaekimXD21:09
geniiwork needs me, away a couple/few minutes21:10
sub[t]rnlbachstudies➜ you can keep packages that you define in /etc/apt/prefrences.  Look to man apt_prefrences for the proper syntax21:10
osh_nosrednaekim: nope, that did hang the machine. unfortunatly. I didn't use the restricted-manager though. Just aptitude install xorg-drivers-fglrx21:12
ScorpKingosh_: btw, vesa always works. ;)21:12
bachstudiessub[t]rnl, thanks very much - so i probably list the offending packages and adept will ignore them?21:12
osh_ScorpKing: good to know.21:12
sub[t]rnlbachstudies➜ correct21:12
nosrednaekimosh_: use the restricted-manager21:12
osh_nosrednaekim: Thanks for your help and time. Now it's bedtime for me as I'm flying off to england tomorrow. =)21:12
nosrednaekimoh... ok ... glad you got it working :)21:12
* nosrednaekim hands some coffee to genii too21:13
awarringwhen i try to sudo apt-get install build-essentials, it requires me to insert the Kubuntu cd into the cd rom drive. Is there a way I can get it off the internet?21:13
osh_nosrednaekim: genii: You've been great. Thanks a bunch. Let me know if there's anything I can do for you.21:13
nosrednaekimosh_: advertise kubuntu, kde and linux :)21:14
osh_nosrednaekim: I always do. =)21:14
* ScorpKing nods..21:14
nosrednaekimand don't let them say "there is no support"21:14
nosrednaekimawarring: remove the apt-cdrom line  from your repositories21:14
osh_nosrednaekim: I know there is support. My last company bought support from RedHat. =)21:15
awarringnosrednaekim: that is in /etc/apt/sources.list?21:15
nosrednaekimawarring: yes you can do that.21:15
nosrednaekimosh_: haha, well, there is support even if you don't pay for it :)21:15
ScorpKingawarring: when you saved the file run sudo apt-get update21:16
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sean_how do I open konqueror for managing files in root mode?21:16
osh_nosrednaekim, genii: point taken. Good night guys and thanks a bunch again.21:16
intelikeysean kdesudo21:16
ayywat do i do if the ALSA driver for my sound card doesnt exist21:16
nosrednaekimsean_: kdesudo konqueror21:16
nosrednaekimayy: write one :)21:17
sean_from the command line21:17
sean_?21:17
ayynosrednaekim: how21:17
intelikeysean alt+f221:17
jpatricksean_: that or what intelikey said21:17
gta__hi.... is here somebody from Ukraine?21:18
nosrednaekimayy: if you are asking how.... then I am NOT the person to explain it to you... what sound card do you have?21:18
intelikey!ua21:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ua - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:19
ayynosrednaekim: i have intel family chipset 82801H21:19
ScorpKingayy: i'll get you a link. one sec..21:19
sean_ok that's fine, thanks21:19
sub[t]rnlapt-get moo21:19
sean_does anyone know if you can start rsync off with 2 mirror images?21:20
intelikeysub[t]rnl what is cowsay21:20
sub[t]rnlbeats me :p21:21
nosrednaekimcowsay is hilarious....21:21
intelikeyallusion to 'jepordy' in answer to sub[t]rnl's "apt-get moo"21:22
ScorpKingayy: i can't find the book i'm looking for but search in google for - writing device drivers for linux21:22
sub[t]rnlah, i get it :>21:22
sub[t]rnlcorrect intelikey!21:22
intelikey:)21:22
ayyScorpKing: ok thanks21:22
intelikey!info cowsay | sub[t]rnl the other half of that joke is21:23
ubotusub[t]rnl the other half of that joke is: cowsay (source: cowsay): A configurable talking cow. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.03-8 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 268 kB21:23
sub[t]rnlDefinition: cowsay: a configurable talking cow Turns text into happy ASCII cows, with speech balloons.21:23
geniinosrednaekim: Thanks for the coffee :)21:24
sub[t]rnlaptitude moo21:26
sub[t]rnl:(21:26
intelikey:)))21:26
sub[t]rnlaptitude -v moo21:26
sub[t]rnlsheesh21:27
jpatricksub[t]rnl: aptitude -vvvvvvvvvvv moo21:27
sub[t]rnlrofl21:27
intelikey-root: aptitude: command not found21:27
sub[t]rnljpatrick➜  aptitude -vvvvv moo21:28
sub[t]rnlwinner!21:28
intelikeyit's a little odd, i don't recall removing aptitude from this system...21:28
geniiFor it to make sense tho you need to increment the amount of verbosity each time of course21:29
sub[t]rnlyeah21:29
* intelikey is bored Q=v ;for P in v v v v v ;do aptitude -$Q moo ;Q=$Q$P ;done21:32
Phoenix92xhi, I'm running kubuntu 7.10 on a Dell Latitude D610 and my wireless stopped working yesterday through knetworkmanager. iwconfig still works and shows that the card is still detected by the system etc, but I don't know how to get knetworkmanager working again., if someone could help me with this I'd appreciate it21:33
geniiintelikey: :)21:34
nosrednaekimPhoenix92x: erase lines pertaining to your wireless interface from /etc/network/interfaces21:34
Phoenix92xnosrednaekim: ok, one moment21:35
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Phoenix92xnosrednaekim: so I should erase the lines "iface eth1 inet dhcp" and "auto eth1" ?21:37
Phoenix92xnosrednaekim: that did...indeed, fix it...Could you please tell me why that fixed it? Tis interesting21:38
Scubarhi21:38
Phoenix92xhi Scubar21:38
nosrednaekimPhoenix92x: Networkmanager ignores any interfaces which are in that file21:38
jpatrick!hi | Scubar21:39
ubotuScubar: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!21:39
Scubarjust wondering whcih of u are running i386 or x64 ?21:39
nosrednaekim64, why?21:39
Scubarjust wondering which one would be best to install21:39
Scubaris it possible to still run i386 apps in x6421:39
Scubarim guessin it is21:39
nosrednaekimScubar: i386 is a bit easier, and 64 bit doesn't have many advantages except when you have over 4 gigs of ram21:40
Scubarcause opera browser only runs on i38621:40
Scubari got 8GB ram21:40
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nosrednaekimScubar: yeah, 32 on 64 is possible, but complicated at times21:40
nosrednaekimScubar: then its a waste to run anything less than 64 bit..21:40
Scubaryea i figured that would be the response21:40
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Scubarits only Opera browser that i mainly wanna use but its i386 only21:40
Scubarguess i gotta get some libs or something21:41
nosrednaekimScubar: i'm sure there is a tutorial somehwere on how to install it for 64 bit21:41
nosrednaekimyeah21:41
Phoenix92xnosrednaekim: interesting, thank you very much21:41
intelikeywooops.  i just hung my root terminal21:41
nosrednaekimPhoenix92x: you are very welcome21:42
intelikeybah, that's what i get for running an emulator as root21:42
nosrednaekim:)21:43
intelikeyand it's   alt+sysRQ+e  to the rescue21:44
nosrednaekim0.o21:44
nosrednaekimwhats that do?21:44
intelikeykills every thing that can be killed21:44
Phoenix92xwhich key is sysRQ?21:44
* nosrednaekim doesn't feel like trying it21:44
intelikeyit's a kernel side hotkey21:44
Phoenix92xdon't try it randomly21:44
Phoenix92xlol21:44
nosrednaekimPhoenix92x: printscr on my keyboard21:44
Phoenix92xintelikey: is there a way to tell which it is for a particular machine?21:45
intelikeyPhoenix92x it's often shared with print-screen21:45
Phoenix92xahh, interesting21:45
* nosrednaekim jst had his brother do it21:45
nosrednaekimworked fine :)21:46
jpatricknosrednaekim: evil21:46
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nosrednaekimI told him what it would do.. don't worry ;)21:46
nosrednaekimits print screen...21:46
intelikeyyeah it's the same as doing     sudo kill -9 -1     or almost.21:46
geniiPhoenix92x: Usually it's next to the PrtSC one21:46
firiodpeople, i am installing kubuntu gutsy gibbon on a friends pc, however the resolution is completly wrong, i tried to adjust it via kcontrol but no luck21:47
Phoenix92xgot it ^_^21:47
itsjustme what software in synaptic would I download to use my HP scanner?21:47
geniiitsjustme: perhaps hplip and sane21:47
intelikeyitsjustme sane ?21:47
nosrednaekimitsjustme: everything should be already installed21:47
itsjustmehhumm  so what would I look for in the menu?21:48
JuJuBeeAnybody know how to change the page margins for all pages in openoffice writer?21:48
itsjustmethere isnt anything that says for scanner21:48
nosrednaekimitsjustme: look for the "hp printer toolbox"21:49
nosrednaekimunder system21:49
JuJuBeeI have 355 page doc that I need to change.  Only seems to work if I do it page by page.21:49
intelikeynosrednaekim if you wanted your brother to test hotkeys for you,  you could also ask him to test the b key combo sysRQ21:49
nosrednaekimintelikey: the what?21:49
nosrednaekimb+sysreq?21:49
intelikeyalt+sysRQ+b21:50
nosrednaekimwhats that do?21:50
intelikeyhot reboot21:50
intelikeywarning.21:50
nosrednaekimsweet...21:50
intelikeyit does not umount fs's21:50
nosrednaekimfigured ;)21:50
raaviThe items in the K Menu is slightly different from default KDE, does any body know how to revert to default?21:50
nosrednaekimLater everyone..21:50
intelikeynosrednaekim21:51
itsjustmefound it    too cool thsx21:51
intelikeynosrednaekim the best secquense is.    alt+sysRQ+[r,e,u,b]   in that order.   which is actually useful.21:52
intelikeyKohlrabi:  too late.21:52
tsbI am missing /boot/grub/menu.1st (I removed it) - I did sudo aptitude reinstall grub but it still isn't there..21:52
intelikeysorry Kohlrabi nick completion error.21:52
intelikeytsb maybe   sudo update-grub   or even use the install feature   sudo grub-install <boot_device>21:54
raaviThe items in the K Menu is slightly different from default KDE, does any body know how to revert to default?21:54
tsbintelikey: I just thought about update-grub myself, thanks :)21:54
mefisto__JuJuBee: Format > Page21:55
intelikeytsb yes.  i'm not sure that will generate a menu but the install feature will21:55
tsbintelikey: it did21:55
JuJuBeemefisto_ doesn't seem to be working.  It only changes the current page.21:55
intelikeytsb the reason that reinstalling the grub package doesn't is because it doesn't install grub per'se, but rather it installs the grub package to the ubuntu system, from which the other scripts like grub-install are used.21:56
intelikeyreasoning; one may wish to install the package and not actually install the boot loader,    (could be many reasons for that)21:57
mefisto__JuJuBee: you're doing the change in the "Page" tab, in the "Margins" section?22:00
JuJuBeeYes.22:00
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mefisto__JuJuBee: that's odd. any frames in the document?22:05
JuJuBeeNot sure yet.  355 pages.  Only on page 15.22:05
snowbirdi downloaded  a  modem driver  it had a  bios  killling  bug were  do  i report that  too?22:06
snowbirdwas on    forms22:06
intelikeysnowbird the drivers writer/maintainer22:09
intelikeyand the forum poster22:09
snowbirdhow  i do that22:09
intelikeysnowbird look at it's source22:09
snowbirdok22:09
mefisto__JuJuBee: it should work, but rather than figuring out why it's not working, you could create a new empty doc with the margins you want, then select all of the original doc and copy/paste it in the new one.22:09
intelikeyshould have the author/maintainer22:10
snowbirddont see it22:11
Dogface!Repositories22:11
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu22:11
snowbirdcan not  get t to sight today22:12
snowbirdmaybe its  closed22:12
intelikeysnowbird  ;/22:12
snowbirdwhat22:12
intelikeynothing.22:13
snowbirdmaybe   they took ti off  line22:13
intelikeymaybe22:14
intelikeyi'm eating too much disk...  /dev/hdd               19G   11G  8.3G  55% /22:14
intelikeyoh never mind.  the package cache is local there.22:15
intelikeythat's still too much tho.   11G   ummm about 8G plus packages.    so still bloat city22:16
tzdhi everyone! Can anyone please tell me how to stop a specific service? Im trying to stop a vmware service that i can't find22:18
Dr_willis_sudo /etc/init.d/SEVUCENAME stop22:20
Dr_willis_vmware - may be special. :) not sure what services it does22:20
tam_hey all, looking for help w/ getting my soundcard to work - dell inspiron 1720 / kubuntu gutsy22:20
tam_it's not showing up at all22:20
intelikeysudo killall service_name22:20
Dr_willis_ sudo /etc/init.d/vmware status22:20
intelikey!sound | tam_22:21
ubotutam_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP322:21
intelikeybeen there ^ yet tam_ ?22:21
morphinehey folks, I have 36 ps files that I want to combine and then convert into one pdf22:21
morphineHow might I go about doing that?22:22
tam_intelikey: going there now22:22
Dr_willis_could use the 'print to pdf' feature22:22
morphineDr_willis: that is how I got the 36 postscript files, I had to print each page off individually22:23
* intelikey has never found a good word to say about "pdf" so stays out of that.22:23
tzdDr_willis: thanks! Are there any other commands or via gui you can access a list of active services?22:24
intelikeyksysguard  @ tzd22:25
tzdintelikey: thanks as well ;)22:25
tzdcheers22:25
intelikeytzd and pstree and ps -A x  and pgrep and ...22:26
tam_if my soundcard is not detected at all, what could i run to see if it is detected on a second try?22:26
intelikeyidk i forgot how many ways there are to find a process22:26
tzdyeah because ksysguard only have processes right? Not any services?22:26
intelikeytam_ cat /proc/asound/cards22:26
mefisto__there is no undoing file deletion from rm, is there?22:27
tam_intelikey: thanks22:27
intelikeytzd i think services can be accessed there too.   but i don't play in a gui much22:27
raavi The items in the K Menu is slightly different from default KDE, does any body know how to revert to default?22:27
tzdintelikey: ok, I'll better have a closer look...  thanks!22:27
intelikeytzd welcome22:28
tlaytonanybody know of a way to restrict the kde-look.org rss feed to only the plasmoid category? i'm using akregator as my client.22:28
intelikeymefisto__ without major proceedings   no.22:28
intelikeytam_  /join #alsa    if you can't get it.22:29
matt____I am attempting to "network" two kde's together. I only want file sharing, will someone explain what needs to be done? There are plenty of options, but I'm not sure which one to go with.22:29
ScorpKingmatt____: i'd suggest nfs22:30
intelikeymatt____ two linux boxen are most easily linked via ssh   but you may want to put up an nfs share.    depends on the need22:30
matt____intelikey: show me ssh22:31
tam_intelikey: the cat is coming up with nothing at all under /proc/asounds/cards, and --- no soundcards --- under /proc/asound/cards22:31
matt____ScorpKing: i'm trying it now, but....i have client on the one i'm wanting to use, and i'm about to put server on the one i'm wanting to act as a server22:31
ScorpKingmatt____: on the server you need openssh-server iirc22:32
ScorpKinglet me make sure22:32
intelikeymatt____ sudo apt-get install ssh     and from the other box  scp blah user@other.ip:path    or scp user@other.ip:blah /path22:32
matt____intelikey: can i do the whole ssh thing in the network part of dolphin? i'd like that, but i dunno how what the server and folder and user are22:32
ScorpKingbah22:32
ScorpKingmatt____: not ssh, sorry.22:32
matt____ScorpKing: hmm..i have the option of ssh, it's in "add network folder", can you take a look?22:33
intelikeymatt____ i don't know for sure if dolphin can or not.   konq has an ssh kioslave22:33
intelikeyso dolphin probably does too22:34
Dr_willis_fish:// I think for the ssh kioslave :)22:34
ScorpKingmatt____: for nfs -  sudo aptitude install nfs-kernel-server and then edit /etc/exports and add shares there22:34
ScorpKingmatt____: that's for the server btw22:34
intelikeysshfs22:34
matt____ScorpKing: for the server? then how do i use the client?22:34
intelikeyi'll shush now.22:34
ScorpKingmatt____: edit fstab on the client and add the entries there22:34
matt____ScorpKing: as? that's the problem, i dunno the "host" PATH. is it the name or whatever when you setup the system?22:35
ScorpKingmatt____: 192.168.0.1:/media/disk01 /media/disk01 nfs rw,hard,intr 0 022:36
intelikeyi have done both nfs and ssh/scp   if you don't need continuous access  the ssh route is the more simple.    like  i said it depends on your needs.22:36
ScorpKingmatt____: that's ^ what will go into fstab22:36
matt____ScorpKing: so i'm wanting /home/matt/Data to be shared... (path on server), and i'm not sure about the ip, as i'm going to do some odd networking (router hooked up to router).22:37
ScorpKingmatt____: you have to decide on nfs or ssh ;)22:37
matt____ScorpKing: nfs22:37
matt____ScorpKing: mind joining me on #kubuntumatt22:37
* ScorpKing sends intelikey away..22:37
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Raleskhi all22:39
RaleskKopete seems to choke my -- unfortunately only single-core -- CPU every 30 seconds, for a few seconds each time.22:39
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RaleskHas anyone else had such a thing, or any idea what I could do to get to its cause, anything?22:41
* intelikey goes away.22:44
frodeif a windows computer has a rootkit virus. and i install kubuntu without removing the windows. will the linux be safe to run, will the linux install destroy the rootkit in the MBR? or can the rootkit virus still function and also be operable when running linux?22:44
biovoreif you install linux.. windows won't be there anymore..22:44
intelikeyfrode installing grub boot loader to the mbr will overwrite the mbr,   but linux wouldn't care about a virus there anyway.22:45
petinahello22:45
Dr_willis_a rootkit normally is NOT in the mbr.22:46
petinai have a question22:46
intelikeywould be awfully compact wouldn't it...22:46
Dr_willis_installing grub will replace anything in the MBR. thus removing any mbr viruses. which.. i think are rather rare these days22:46
Dr_willis_Ive not heard of a boot sector virus in ages22:46
petinai have actually heard of new MBR viruses22:47
intelikeydr_willis i have one if you want it... :)22:47
intelikeyso petina what can we do you for ?22:47
frodeok. i thought rootkit viruses could be in the MBR. but what do i know :). anyway i will give my friend the windows alternative. she will have a virus-free system that is very fast compared to her virus-infected windows. she will be happy hehe!22:48
petinawell, i currently have Kubuntu 6.06 lts...22:48
petinaand i'm wondering about upgrading to 7.1022:48
Lopi1Anyone help me with some isntaller problems?22:48
petinafirst of all, what are the advantages going to be other than newer vesions, bug fixes etc...22:48
petinasecond of all, how do i upgrade22:49
petinathird of all, how big will it be to download the upgrade?22:49
intelikeypetina eyecandy.  simple way is the new install cd22:49
intelikeyLopi1 what problem?22:49
petinai'd rather not since i am on a dial up connection, and saving download time is a good thing... and upgrading is generally easier? less configuration.22:50
Lopi1intelikey: Sorry about the name...  My installer is hanging...22:50
Dogface1Could someone show me a direct link to a repository for 'Dapper' software.  Have been hunting a while and everything keeps coming up 'page not found'22:50
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intelikeypetina if you don't do a install the upgrade is reccomended in three steps  first to 6.10 then 7.4 then 7.1022:51
petinaokay, well can you walk me through the steps i will have to take to do that?22:51
schistehey, I'm trying to use krdc to get connected to an ubuntu computer. However it doesn't connect. Autorization fails. Any idea why ?22:51
frodeanother thing, i got help here last year with this.. it happened again, but i dont remember the command: my adept crashed during some install, and i cant start it up. it says another program is using the packaging system database. i guess i need to unlock the database file...22:51
intelikeypetina first of all you missed my statement   the easy way is the new install iso     to upgrade through three versions will be far bigger a download and not promiced to be trubble free.   infact i can almost promice that you will have trubble.22:53
intelikeypetina but if you still want me to enumerate the steps, i will.22:53
petinawell it would be more simple because i have stuff configured already, no?22:54
intelikey!packages | Dogface122:54
ubotuDogface1: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!22:54
intelikeypetina no.    just copy your special configs.22:54
petinahow do i do that22:54
intelikeypetina what do you have configured ?   xorg ?   wifi ?22:55
intelikeyor are you talking user land customization ?22:55
petinaummm22:55
petinawell, all sortsa customization for KDE and konquerer and konversation, kopete, etc.22:56
petinaand some small programs i have installed?22:56
intelikeyok is your home dir. on the root fs, or seperate ?22:56
Scubarhow do i set a new root pass in terminal22:56
Scubarive just installed22:57
basysudo -i22:57
basypasswd22:57
petinait should be on the root fs22:57
g2g591!sudo | Scubar22:57
ubotuScubar: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.22:57
intelikeyScubar if you are sure that you want one.    it's sudo passwd root    but i figure you just need to learn about sudo22:57
Scubaryea22:57
g2g591Scubar: sudo -i gives you a root shell if you need22:58
Scubari set one in user management but its not recognising it now22:58
Scubarits cause im used to typing su22:58
tininHi, anyone watches tv (with a tv tuner) on kde4?22:58
Dogface1intelikey: That link keeps returning 'file not found' errors!  FINALLY just tried it on a different machine and it DOES work there.  Thanks22:58
g2g591Scubar: usermod -L root , locks the root account if you want to return to sudo . sudo passwd root lets you set a new root pass22:59
Lopi1intelikey: Sorry...  My installer is stalling in random places...  I can't even install a text based system...22:59
g2g591Scubar: you could alias su to sudo -i also22:59
intelikeypetina ok then you want to do something like    sudo tar -czf /my_home.tgz $HOME     and copy /my_home.tgz to some place safe  then install and when finished untar that file to / as root from the new system.23:00
Scubarso its best i keep the root locked then and just use sudo23:01
mrdigitalim getting /dev/nvidia0 (input/output error) EE failed to initalize Nvidia graphics device23:01
intelikeyLopi1 "My installer is stalling in random places..."    can you clearify that just a little please ?23:01
mrdigitalany ideas23:01
Scubarive changed the rootpass now but if i dont need to use su then ill just leave it as it is now and use sudo instead23:01
petinaintelikey: what all will that include23:01
intelikeyScubar that's the ubuntu reccomendation     but it's your system.23:02
HTCHi all my htc touch phone isn't recognized in Ubuntu.. Using Kmobile how do I configure it?23:02
Lopi1intelikey: random screens won't load, that, or i get a segmentation fault...23:02
intelikeypetina everything that you have in your home dir    all the customizations for kde... and so forth.23:02
Scubarid rather do the recommended thing23:02
intelikeyLopi1 how much ram do you have ?23:03
Lopi192Mb23:03
HTCI also have Kandy but it dowsn't see it either23:04
mrdigitalany idea for the nvidia?23:04
intelikeyLopi1 that's why.    need 192m for the live cd installer. and 128m for the server/alternate installer.23:04
Lopi1*96mb23:04
petinaintelikey: how will i move it back again?23:04
Lopi1Okay...  how do I install with that much ram?23:04
intelikeyLopi1 use a different distro.   or an older release.   hoary maybe.23:04
Lopi1Recommend a distro?23:04
intelikeydebian23:05
intelikeydsl23:05
intelikeyslackware23:05
Lopi1Netboot work?  I don't want to burn 35 disks...23:05
Lopi1Okay...23:05
tininmrdigital have you installed the nvidia drivers?23:05
intelikeyany of those and several more obscure specality distros should all work.23:06
mrdigitaltinin yes23:06
mrdigitalgoing to redownload them23:06
tininmanually?23:06
intelikeypetina from the newly installed system   you will open the archive "where ever you store it"   and extract to /23:07
mrdigitalmanually huh?23:07
tininhow did you install them23:07
mrdigitalfrom the nividia site23:07
intelikeypetina the "special" program you mentioned,  may i ask what that is.  so i can give sujestions concerning it if need be.23:08
petinaokay123:08
basyAre there any installers for man pages? I need to install man pages for develop with openGL, i have mangl.tar.Z and there are *html and *3gl manuals, any idea how to install that?23:08
petinaintelikey i have just installed a couple different math and science programs through adepts23:08
tininmrdigital if you haven't touched your configurations and things too much, I would recommend you this app for installing graph drivers http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html23:08
tininworks like a charm23:08
intelikeypetina ah then it will be as simple as opening adept in the new system and installing them again.23:09
intelikeypetina from what i can gather so far of your system.  it will be an easy "pack and replace" for the home dir.  and all else should go smoothly.23:10
tinin!envy23:11
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »23:11
intelikeypetina as to the exact question of the size of the dl to do a three release upgrade.   it would be about 3.4G dl   which you said you were on dialup, would be impossable23:11
HTCch phone isn't recognized in Ubuntu.. Using Kmobile how do I configure it?23:11
tininHTC unless it uses android...23:12
HTCtouchsmart phone isn't recognized in Ubuntu.. Using Kmobile how do I configure it?23:12
* intelikey still grumbles that "ubuntu" expects everyone to have highspeed inet...23:12
HTCandroid isn't found in synaptic???23:13
HTCwhat would be the repo for it?23:13
intelikey!find android23:14
ubotuPackage/file android does not exist in gutsy23:14
StrangeletGparted will not allow me to do anything, why is this?23:14
ScubarGparted is odd it doesnt work for me half the time either23:14
Strangelethmm.23:15
jaredHow do i get JAVA on kubuntu?23:15
jaredHow do i get JAVA on kubuntu?23:15
basykubutu-restricted-extras23:15
tininHTC sorry, just joking, it's google's linux operating system for mobiles, try kmobiletools23:15
jaredbasy, wheres that?23:16
Tm_T!restricted | jared23:16
HTCI did but it dowsn't recognize it23:16
ubotujared: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:16
jaredthanks23:16
basyjared, try adept manager...23:16
basyenable medibuntu repository first23:16
Tm_Tjared: also, please don't repeat, patience is a virtue23:16
jaredlol23:16
tininHTC, what phone is it?23:17
jaredbasy, how do I enable that :P23:17
mrdigitalok i got it to use nvidia but im stuck in 1024x76823:17
StrangeletHm, now I am using the Disk & Filesystems dialog in the System Settings, I still cannot delete some partitions in my external HD, how come?23:18
jaredI have another question, what is the difference between Kubuntu and other KDE linux distros?23:18
jaredI have another question, what is the difference between Kubuntu and other KDE linux distros?23:18
basyjared first: wget -q -O - http://nejakacesta/nejakyklic.key | sudo apt-key add -23:18
basysorry : wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -23:18
basythis is key23:18
Tm_Tjared: don't repeat23:19
basyand than add repository with adept manager: deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free #Medibuntu pro Ubuntu 7.1023:19
mrdigitalany ieas?23:19
jaredI don't understand the restricted formats23:19
StrangeletHm, now I am using the Disk & Filesystems dialog in the System Settings, I still cannot delete some partitions in my external HD, how come?23:19
mrdigitalglot it!23:20
Strangeletglot.. lol. XD23:20
jaredI don't understand the restricted formats23:21
Scubarjared dont u listen ?23:21
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Scubarstop repeating yourself23:21
Scubarbe patient someone will answer when they are ready23:21
StrangeletPerhaps it's a problem with his client. :P23:21
Scubarlol23:21
intelikeyjared  restricted formats are file formats that for legal reasons, can't be supported by a FOSS distrobution.23:22
tininjared this is ALL you need when you need to read http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy23:22
CppIsWeirdi got down to 1mb of free space, i deleted about 500mb of stuff, and rebooted, now everything is going haywire and saying there is no free space and applications are screwing up, my entire server list for xchat is blank, i have free space23:22
HTCtinin HTC touch23:22
HTCtinin by sprint23:23
HTCsorry   Had to take the dog outside23:23
intelikeyjared that is not to say that you can't install software that will support them.  but that the copy rights conflict between the "restricted formats" and the GNU-GPL23:23
jaredok, now I know what restricted formats are, how do I install java?23:23
tininHTC, too new, and kmobiletools han't improved too much lately23:23
StrangeletHow do I add and delete partitions in my external HD? Gparted seems to be slacking off.23:23
Scubarlol @ jared23:24
jared-.-23:24
tininjared http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy23:24
Scubarread the guide man23:24
intelikeyjared you follow the link that ubotu sends you23:24
intelikey!java | jared23:24
ubotujared: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.23:24
Scubarubotu is ur friend23:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is ur friend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:24
* Scubar hugs ubotu23:24
HTCHTC Touch model#HTC6700DIC23:24
jaredim not using ubuntu, im using kubuntu, will it matter?23:24
tininsudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin23:24
tininjared not too much23:24
tininonly some app are different23:25
intelikeyjared only for the applications used in the process.  i.e.   adept rather than synaptic23:25
jaredI got it working in ubuntu by installing it in the synaptic23:25
jaredbut Its not in the kubuntu 123:25
tininjared I use kubuntu and synaptic too23:25
tininsynaptic seems better23:25
* intelikey just sticks with the cli, they are all the same from there.23:26
jaredok, i did the sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin and this is what happened:23:26
Tm_Twajig <323:27
* Ralesk uses adept for looking through the installed packages -- but plain old apt-get otherwise :D23:27
jarede: Couldn't find package sun-java6-plugin23:27
jaredy is it looking in the E: I don't even hav a disk in23:27
tininjared that's weird23:27
jaredlol23:27
RaleskJared, e: means "Error:"23:27
intelikeyjared    E: == ERROR:23:28
RaleskThis isn't Windows, we don't have an E: drive :)23:28
tininXD23:28
jaredoh lol23:28
Scubarlol23:28
jared:P23:28
jaredok, so do I need to enable something?23:28
intelikeywe don't have a :P drive either.23:28
CppIsWeirdhow do i get the calculated space of the content of a directory and any directories inside of it recursively?23:29
jaredcoz in Ubuntu I had to tick all the repositories23:29
jaredin the synaptic23:29
* Ralesk . o O ( unrelated, this reminds me of something a friend of mine said: "I want a :D drive, not a D: drive!" )23:29
Tm_TCppIsWeird: du23:29
jaredany1 read my thing? or do I hav to repeat it?23:29
tininJava sould be avaliable in the default repositories, but to have more aps avaliable, you should read how to add repos (you only need to aedit a text file with links)23:29
Tm_TCppIsWeird: du -csh actually23:29
jared:S23:30
intelikeyjared if you would have done what i told you.  and others said first. and followed the link ubotu sent you............   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java    then we could try to help someone else...23:30
jaredooh, sorry23:30
jareddidnt c that link23:30
jaredthis is for Ubuntu, will there b many differences?23:31
intelikeyday shaw vooo23:31
Scubarsome ppl dont listen23:31
jaredme?23:31
intelikeyyes you23:31
yasahirocan anyone help? i set the background to kwebdesktop, and it wont go back to using a regular image as the background...23:32
Scubardo you use windows alot Jared ?23:32
jaredyea lol23:32
Scubaryou not very good with it i take it ?23:32
jaredjust a noobie :D23:32
Scubar1 thing you learn when your good with windows and new to linux23:33
Scubardo what your told by ppl23:33
jaredoh, im good with windows23:33
Scubarit will help you alot easier23:33
jarednot good with linux23:33
AzzmodanWith kde4, where do I put application I want to start after I login, and how do I make gtk apps not look like shit?23:33
jaredwell i've never had help with windows lol23:33
Scubarwell thats about to change23:33
Tm_T!language | Azzmodan23:33
ubotuAzzmodan: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.23:33
jaredlol23:33
intelikeylearned it all the "try it and reformat" way23:33
Tm_Tjared: less "lol" thank you ;)23:33
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jaredi'll read the Java page in ubuntu wiki23:34
Dogface1!Repositories23:34
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu23:34
Scubarso its best you listen to these guys they will only repeat themselves so much :P23:34
jaredand Tm_T, i like laughing, is that a crime?23:34
yasahiro:( i miss my background... i dont want kwebdesktop...23:34
yasahirolol23:35
AzzmodanTm_T, that's cute but the word shit is hardly family unfriendly and is quite a normal part of the English language23:35
RaleskKopete seems to choke my -- unfortunately only single-core -- CPU every 30 seconds, for a few seconds each time.  <-- anyone in this now significantly more active channel who might have an idea? :)23:35
Tm_TAzzmodan: I know23:35
Tm_TAzzmodan: but gtk doesn't look like it in your system, does it?23:35
AzzmodanTm_T, then why waste my time with a cute bot response?23:35
ScorpKing!coc23:35
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/23:35
RaleskTm_T just loves !stuff :)23:35
stdinAzzmodan: please watch the attitude23:35
Tm_TRalesk: I don't23:35
AzzmodanTm_T, I could make a picture for you and you can compare them, I think my dropping might look better23:35
* ScorpKing smiles..23:36
intelikeyRalesk that would be +o  not !stuff   :)23:36
Ralesk:)))23:37
Dogface1When I paste a link into Adept 'New Repository' the link stays grayed out and not useful.  Why is that?23:37
jaredok, that link didn't help23:37
jaredit told me to type sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin23:37
Scubarlol @ azz23:37
jaredso I did23:37
Scubarwhat a muppet23:37
jaredand it came up with an e: again23:37
intelikeyDogface1 you did "apply changes"  didn't you ?23:37
pipatronHm, how can I get rid of this horrible 'dolphin' and use konqueror as the default filesystem browser?23:37
matt_____ScorpKing: umm...is there by any chance a way to get this kde thing to autoupdate without having any input?23:37
ScorpKingmatt____: add apt-get update in a startup script?23:38
tininlook, jared, I think the packages you need are these ones: sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-bin23:38
matt_____but then it would have to be ran as root no?23:38
intelikeypipatron that may be in the faq by now.    but !dolphin can answer that too23:38
Scubarpipatron23:38
Scubarhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60687923:38
pipatronintelikey: Okay, thanks23:38
jaredtinin, how do I install them?23:38
tininso install them in adept or synaptic23:39
pipatronShould have checked the FAQ first :)23:39
tininyou just need to search them23:39
ScorpKingmatt____: root runs the startup scripts23:39
Dogface1Intelikey, after apply changes it still stays gray23:39
jaredby typing sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre?23:39
tininalsoç23:39
matt_____ok...so just add apt-get update? but what if it wants hte little "y"23:39
matt_____to accept?23:39
ScorpKingmatt____: it will be in the man pages23:39
jaredsearch for them where/23:39
jared?23:39
matt_____to auto update with y? ok23:40
tininjared you could install them with this comand sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre23:40
ScorpKingmatt____: man apt-get23:40
intelikeyDogface1 i'll have to see the sources.list before i can help on that.   if you want to pastebin it i'll look.23:40
matt_____ScorpKing: i'm trying to setup everything so that i don't need a keyboard/moniter/moluse for the server23:40
ScorpKingmatt____: just ssh into the server ;)23:40
matt_____ScorpKing: i'll try that out another day...23:40
matt_____but..while i do have a moniter...what needs to be installed to the server for that?23:41
jaredtinin, that worked, now i"ll go check if Java is working in web apps23:41
Scubaris there a better way to restart everythging instead of a full reboot ?23:41
ScorpKingmatt____: on the server - sudo apt-get install openssh-server23:41
jaredwill konqueror b able to use Java?23:41
Dogface1!Pastebin23:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)23:41
Scubarafter installing a couple of apps23:41
intelikeymatt_____ you definitly want ssh on the server. and configured securly.23:41
tininjared and ALL you need to know is here, take a look at it http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy23:41
jaredcan u answer 1 more question?23:41
matt_____intelikey: ScorpKing ok...i'll try that another day then...23:41
* ScorpKing goes to get more coffee..23:41
jaredwill konqueror b able to use the Java programs I want to run?23:42
tininjared use firefox better for internet23:42
matt_____thanks all23:42
intelikeyjared yes23:42
jaredawsum!23:42
yasahiroanybody know how to remove kwebdesktop? its not allowing me to change the background....23:42
jaredtinin, i'll install it l8r23:42
jaredomg -.-23:42
jareddidn't work :'(23:42
intelikeyerror message ?23:42
Jucatoyasahiro: right-click on the desktop -> Configure Desktop -> click on the Advanced Options button -> disable "use the following program..."23:42
jarednone23:43
jaredjust didn't load23:43
yasahiroanybody know how to remove kwebdesktop? its not allowing me to change the background....23:43
yasahirooops23:43
jaredshould I try firefox?23:43
yasahirosorry... i tried that... it wont change23:43
Jucatoyasahiro: you disabled it already?23:43
yasahiroyeah, i did23:43
ScorpKingjared: install firefox. if flash works in firefox it should work in konqueror as well23:43
yasahirosorry, i pressed the up botton accidentally, thus repeating my message23:43
tininjared you should install sun-java6-fonts also, so apps will look better23:43
intelikeyjared Jucato might help with that java Q23:43
Jucatoyasahiro: press Ctrl+Esc and see if kwebdesktop is running23:44
jaredjucato?23:44
Jucatohm?23:44
Jucatointelikey: no fair! I just woke up!23:44
yasahiroit is23:44
intelikey:)23:44
jaredlol23:44
Jucatoyasahiro: kill it?23:44
jaredi thought jucato was a program lol23:44
Jucatojared: is sun-java6-bin installed?23:44
RabidDog_Intelikey:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52944/23:44
Jucato(or sun-java5-bin...)23:45
intelikeyJucato he installed sun-java6-jre and it isn't working in konq for him.23:45
intelikeybest i can gather.23:45
Jucatojared: did you enable Java for that particular website?23:45
yasahirowell now it disappeared from the list before i could kill it...23:45
jaredhow do I do that?23:45
fulat2khi folks, i booted up k7.10 live cd on a inspiron 630.  however, it didn't detect the sound card.  is there anyway around this?23:45
intelikeyRabidDog_ looking.23:45
Jucatojared: Tools -> HTML Settings -> Java23:45
jaredk, will check23:46
Jucatoor in Settings -> Configure KOnqueror -> Java and Javascript23:46
Jucatoeither enable java per site, or enable it globally23:46
tininfulat2k to look first in google is the best thing23:46
intelikeyRabidDog_ ok.  if that is the entire sources.list file then you need to make a new one.23:46
Jucatojared: if you're going to try to use Java with Firefox, you'll need sun-java6-plugin too23:46
intelikey!repos | RabidDog_23:46
ubotuRabidDog_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu23:46
fulat2ktinin: already did.  not much help23:46
tinininspiron 630 ubuntu23:46
Jucato!easysource | intelikey23:46
jaredjava is already enabled globally23:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easysource - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:46
Jucatobah...23:47
Jucato!source-o-matic | intelikey23:47
tinininspiron 630 linux sound23:47
ubotuintelikey: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic23:47
yasahiroit disappeared before i could kill the process kwebdesktop :(23:47
Jucato:D23:47
Jucatoyasahiro: and still you can't change the background?23:47
intelikeyRabidDog_ if that's the url of a single repo you want to add.  then you need the correct syntax    deb url reponame23:47
yasahiroright23:47
yasahiro:(23:47
jaredjava is already enabled globally...23:47
yasahiroit still has the kdestop environment page as my background..23:47
intelikeyJucato is there not a link there on the repos page ?23:48
tininjared you should press Control+Alt+Backspace23:48
Jucatoyasahiro: maybe when you logout and log back in it will be fixed?23:48
Jucatojared: don't!23:48
yasahiroi tried that23:48
yasahiroeven completely rebooting23:48
Jucatotinin: why should he restart X?23:48
tininXD23:48
tininBecause he shhould read23:49
tininjust a joke23:49
Jucatotinin: do NOT do that again23:49
jaredtinin, what will that do?23:49
fulat2ktinin: hm... nothing as well23:49
jareddoesnt that restart my comp?23:49
tininno23:49
tininjust your desktop23:49
jaredaha...23:49
Jucatojared: no. don't follow that. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace will restart your X server, it will basically kill every GUI without prompting you23:50
jaredJava still isn't working23:50
Jucatoand has nothing to do with Java23:50
jaredk23:50
jaredI have it enabled globally, and in html settings23:50
yasahiroive tried logging out and back in before...23:50
yasahiroeven restarting23:50
tininfulat2k have you tried any other live cd?23:51
intelikey:)))23:51
Jucatojared: hold on. a little patience always helps23:52
jaredhmph23:52
Jucatohmph?23:52
intelikeyshalom fellows.    i'm went.23:52
Jucatobye intelikey23:53
Jucatojared: how is java not working exactly?23:53
jaredhmph = Said when expressing apathy towards something23:53
jaredjucato, it just isn't doing anything23:53
jaredwhen it wasn't working on Ubuntu it came up with a white screen saying applet failed to load, or sumthing to that effect23:54
jarednow it isn't working at all23:54
jaredjust comes up with a black screen23:54
jaredwait, this time a white screen :O23:54
Jucatorun this command: "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and tell me which line has the *23:54
jaredit returned:23:56
jaredThere is only 1 program which provides java23:56
jared(/usr/bin/gij-4.2). Nothing to configure.23:56
Jucatohm... are you sure you installed sun-java6-jre or sun-java6-bin?23:56
jaredyeah...23:56
RabidDog_Intellikey: Is this right?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52946/23:56
jaredwanna giv me sum code to check?23:56
Jucatojared: "dpkg -l | grep java"23:58
Jucato(dpkg -l to list all installed packages, grep java to filter out only those that have java in their name)23:58
jaredThere is only 1 program which provides java23:58
jared(/usr/bin/gij-4.2). Nothing to configure.23:58
Jucato[07:58] <Jucato> jared: "dpkg -l | grep java"23:59
jaredjared@jared-desktop:~$ dpkg -l | grep java23:59
* genii makes sure Jucato gets a mug of coffee23:59
jaredii  libjaxp1.3-java                            1.3.03-5                           Java XML parser and transformer APIs (DOM, S23:59
jaredii  libjline-java                              0.9.5-3ubuntu2                     Java library for handling console input23:59
jaredii  libxalan2-java                             2.7.0-4                            XSL Transformations (XSLT) processor in Java23:59
jaredii  libxerces2-java                            2.8.1-2                            Validating XML parser for Java with DOM leve23:59
jaredii  openoffice.org-java-common                 1:2.3.0-1ubuntu5                   OpenOffice.org office suite Java support arc23:59
jaredjared@jared-desktop:~$23:59
jaredoops lol23:59
Jucatojared: don't paste here!23:59
jaredthats what I did23:59
jaredsorry...23:59
Jucatosee? there's no sun java23:59
jaredoooh23:59
jaredI followed someone's instructions before23:59
jaredso blame them :P23:59
Jucatoyou didn't install it. or maybe you thought you did, but did you agree to the license agreement portion?23:59

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