| MugginsM | is anyone successfully using Eclipse in Hardy? | 00:33 |
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| MugginsM | I'm getting lots of crashes with "Assertion `c->xlib.lock' failed", was wondering if it was just me | 00:33 |
| MugginsM | oh, found an answer on the forums, it wasn't just me :) | 00:37 |
| void^ | java bug, set LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=true | 00:37 |
| MugginsM | thanks | 00:38 |
| MugginsM | Write Once, Stacktrace Anywhere | 00:38 |
| MugginsM | ok that seems a wee bit more stable | 00:41 |
| MaximLevitsky | Just did the usial update, and got this: | 00:57 |
| MaximLevitsky | kmail: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so: undefined symbol: _ZN15KFolderTreeItem13setFolderSizeEx | 00:57 |
| MaximLevitsky | Seems like a broken package | 00:57 |
| MaximLevitsky | I wish I could downgrade the packages automaticly via apt | 00:58 |
| MugginsM | 's why I keep old .debs around | 00:59 |
| MugginsM | in /var/cache/apt/archives | 00:59 |
| MugginsM | makes it possible to roll back | 01:00 |
| wastrel | will that fix the java plugin ? | 01:00 |
| MaximLevitsky | Well I have qute a lot of them there too :-) | 01:00 |
| MaximLevitsky | But I tend to clean this folder qute often :-( | 01:01 |
| MaximLevitsky | If you have problem with java, try this workaround export ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=1 | 01:02 |
| MaximLevitsky | export LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=1 | 01:02 |
| MaximLevitsky | great!, I updated few more packages now, and kmail work again. sorry for the noise. | 01:13 |
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| emet | do you think firefox 3 will make it into hardy? | 06:24 |
| blkorpheus | its in hardy | 06:31 |
| blkorpheus | now | 06:31 |
| dmb | its in gutsy also | 06:55 |
| dmb | just a very alpha version | 06:55 |
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| bazhang | the beta is nice | 06:57 |
| blkorpheus | very | 07:28 |
| blkorpheus | low memory usage | 07:29 |
| blkorpheus | trying out the new 64bit opera | 07:29 |
| aslan | hey, is there a known problem with the latest kernel for hardy and the nvidia driver? | 08:25 |
| aslan | I tried to use the hardy kernel in gutsy because I'm running amd64 and would like tickless | 08:25 |
| aslan | I also tried just installing hardy fresh | 08:25 |
| aslan | and each time when the nvidia driver is installed, whether it's through restricted-manager, or just from nvidia.com all I get is a white screen when I boot up. | 08:26 |
| aslan | no errors in Xorg log | 08:26 |
| aslan | so I'm not sure where to begin troubleshooting.... | 08:26 |
| scizzo- | aslan: just a blank white screen? | 08:31 |
| scizzo- | aslan: what nvidia card and what driver are you installing and can you paste the xorg.conf file in a pastebin? | 08:32 |
| aslan | scizzo-: well the nvidia card is an 8600m GT, and the driver is the latest one in hardy.. not actually on the hardy laptop right now, it's at home | 08:33 |
| aslan | and I'm at work, I was just hoping for some troubleshooting steps | 08:33 |
| aslan | I looked through the Xorg.0.log file, and the only thing I see are normal warnings about auto detecting resolution etc... | 08:33 |
| scizzo- | aslan: is it the nvidia-glx-new? | 08:43 |
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| aslan | scizzo-: yes that's what it installs with | 08:51 |
| aslan | when using restricted-manager | 08:51 |
| aslan | I also tried installing by downloading from nvidia.com | 08:51 |
| aslan | and using the script to build my own module based on my kernel version. | 08:51 |
| RAOF | aslan: Do you have xserver-xgl installed? | 08:52 |
| aslan | RAOF: umm.. I don't think so unless it installs by default | 08:53 |
| aslan | I've tried a couple different ways | 08:53 |
| aslan | I tried by doing a fresh install of hardy alpha2 | 08:53 |
| aslan | and then installing nvidia driver | 08:53 |
| aslan | the restricted-manager syas I don't have any restricted hardware | 08:54 |
| aslan | so I tried installing from nvidia.com | 08:54 |
| RAOF | Odd. | 08:54 |
| RAOF | Well, that's a bad plan, basically. | 08:54 |
| aslan | I can't get alpha3 to work, doesn't like my cd-rom drive | 08:54 |
| RAOF | linux-restricted-modules doesn't play very well with self-installed drivers. | 08:54 |
| aslan | RAOF: ya I figured | 08:55 |
| aslan | so I actually reinstalled hardy fresh | 08:55 |
| aslan | and tried installing nvidia-glx-new | 08:55 |
| aslan | and same thing | 08:55 |
| aslan | I then tried using gutsy (fresh install) | 08:55 |
| aslan | updating kernel to hardy's kernel | 08:55 |
| aslan | and that went fine | 08:55 |
| aslan | but when restricted-manager started saying I didn't have any restricted hardware | 08:56 |
| aslan | and wouldn't install nvidia driver again | 08:56 |
| aslan | so I tried installing nvidia-glx-new | 08:56 |
| aslan | and all I get is a white screen | 08:56 |
| aslan | if I change to vesa in xorg.conf it's fine | 08:56 |
| aslan | or if I move /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and don't create one, it loads using nv driver | 08:56 |
| aslan | but won't use binary nvidia driver | 08:57 |
| DanaG | Here's a hint: try self-installed drivers, but first edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common | 09:24 |
| DanaG | and remove the packaged drivers. | 09:24 |
| DanaG | Anyway, I'm going to bed now. | 09:24 |
| Assid | heya | 09:44 |
| Assid | i updated to hardy.. however. i dont really see any noticable difference | 09:44 |
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| Assid | err.. my flash stopped wrking :( | 09:56 |
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| XiXaQ | does anyone know if Firefox 3 will make it into hardy? | 11:36 |
| bazhang | yes | 11:37 |
| XiXaQ | yes, someone knows, or yes, it will? :) | 11:38 |
| bazhang | already in | 11:39 |
| bazhang | so both :} | 11:39 |
| XiXaQ | it is! Grand! :) | 11:40 |
| bazhang | and very nice it is too :} | 11:41 |
| XiXaQ | is it as good as it seems? I haven't tried hardy in a while. | 11:41 |
| XiXaQ | that's great. :) | 11:41 |
| bazhang | well the alpha 3 is a bit rough, but as there will likely be six alphas its not bad | 11:42 |
| XiXaQ | hardy will be a good LTS. I only wish Nautilus would make Computer, CD/DVD Creator and harddisks hidable with gconf, but that's not very important. | 11:42 |
| Tomcat_ | :-D | 11:43 |
| bazhang | you should read some of the blog posts on the internet on new features--it is going to rock! | 11:43 |
| XiXaQ | it's only abit annoying when you use gnome on a terminal server, when noone will ever use those things, but no biggie. | 11:43 |
| XiXaQ | bazhang, I have :) | 11:43 |
| bazhang | XiXaQ: nice! | 11:43 |
| Tomcat_ | bazhang: Any URLs? | 11:43 |
| Tomcat_ | bazhang: Except the Ubuntu wiki / launchpad? | 11:43 |
| bazhang | just a minute Tomcat_ | 11:44 |
| XiXaQ | I hope it's abit more stable than the last one. I've had some problems with crashes, so I've had to use Opera from time to time, but since that doesn't have a good flash blocker, I've had to switch back and forth. It's annoying. | 11:44 |
| bazhang | http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/30/in-depth-roadmap-analysis-for-ubuntu-hardy-heron-804/ | 11:45 |
| Tomcat_ | XiXaQ: Ack, 7.10 has been one of the most unstable releases for me. | 11:45 |
| XiXaQ | I think I'll stick with hardy for a good while when it's released. But will it be possible to do direct upgrades from LTS to LTS from now on? | 11:46 |
| XiXaQ | I don't think it'll be possible to directly upgrade from dapper to hardy? | 11:46 |
| bazhang | there is rumor of such a plan | 11:46 |
| XiXaQ | yes, I thought I read something about that. | 11:46 |
| void^ | i wonder why the menus in my gnome-terminal have lost their labels. :) | 11:48 |
| Hobbsee | XiXaQ: you can upgrade from dapper to hardy | 11:49 |
| Hobbsee | or at least, by release time, you'll be able to | 11:49 |
| XiXaQ | really? That's good news. | 11:50 |
| XiXaQ | well. I don't have any dapperboxes, so it won't have any consequences for me, but it's good to know. | 11:50 |
| Gnine | anyway, i got this encrypted file in ~/some/folder and i can only decrypt IF i place it on the ~/desktop first. sometimes seahorse asks to rename the file first. some other times, not. on deprypt within ~/some/folder , error : could not list file. annoying . | 13:22 |
| Gnine | anyway, i got this encrypted file in ~/some/folder and i can only decrypt IF i place it on the ~/desktop first. sometimes seahorse asks to rename the file first. some other times, not. on deprypt within ~/some/folder , error : could not list file. annoying . | 13:29 |
| selckin | check premissions? | 13:30 |
| Gnine | selckin: looking into it... | 14:06 |
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| cizarro | question, I'm testing hardy install using netboot. which mirror should I select in order to get working kernel modules for the installer? | 14:56 |
| cizarro | I'm using alpha3/server/x86. | 14:56 |
| bardyr | cizarro, anyone you want | 14:56 |
| bardyr | cizarro, the closer the better | 14:56 |
| cizarro | bardyr, but hardy hasn't been mirrored yet? | 14:56 |
| cizarro | or there's something broken, anyhow, the installer claims it couldn't find any matching kernel modules | 14:57 |
| bardyr | hmm | 14:57 |
| bardyr | cizarro, it should be mirrored, try main | 14:57 |
| cizarro | main? | 14:57 |
| cizarro | should I be using expert mode? | 14:57 |
| bardyr | archive.ubuntu.com | 14:57 |
| bardyr | i think | 14:57 |
| cizarro | ah. I tried that one. | 14:57 |
| cizarro | also gb.archive.ubuntu.com | 14:57 |
| cizarro | (the install fails from CD, hence I'm doing netboot) | 14:58 |
| volk | hmm why is ipw3945 module missing from latest kernel tree? (2.6.24-3-386) | 14:58 |
| bardyr | cizarro, maybe you need "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted" | 14:59 |
| bardyr | volk, thats not the latest | 14:59 |
| cizarro | bardyr, hmm. while running the installer? | 14:59 |
| cizarro | I thought the installer would use just that when arch.. would be selected as the mirror? | 15:00 |
| bardyr | cizarro, as mirror | 15:00 |
| bazhang | volk: I noticed that as well in alpha 3 | 15:00 |
| bardyr | cizarro, im not sure | 15:00 |
| cizarro | bardyr, it's a menu, not input field. | 15:00 |
| bardyr | oh | 15:00 |
| * cizarro nods. | 15:00 | |
| bardyr | been a long time since i did a netboot :) | 15:00 |
| * cizarro nods | 15:00 | |
| cizarro | the cd-rom drive is slightly buggy. it used to work with old serverworks 6 pata driver, but the new "sata"-drivers really make a mess of things | 15:01 |
| cizarro | kernel timeouts on I/O and no further cd-rom access is possible at all. | 15:01 |
| cizarro | it was like this already in gutsy. didn't test feisty on this one. | 15:02 |
| bardyr | i had alot of problems with 2.6.24-3 but all seems fixed with -4 | 15:02 |
| cizarro | yup. the installer uses -3 methinks | 15:02 |
| bardyr | yea | 15:03 |
| volk | alright! then I'll install -4 and see if I get it working.. I also have some trouble with cryptsetup on -3 | 15:03 |
| avatar_ | anyone here who can reproduce this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/184817 | 15:03 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 184817 in ubuntu "unable to lock screen with ctrl - alt - L if numlock is on" [Undecided,New] | 15:03 |
| bardyr | cizarro, even the daily builds use -3 :D | 15:03 |
| cizarro | hmm. so I'm in a bind then. anyone built the kernel and installer initrd for -4? | 15:03 |
| Gnine | ditto bardyr . only minor bugs spotted | 15:03 |
| volk | what does it mean when upgrader says that some packages have been kept back? Why? | 15:04 |
| bardyr | volk, it needs some dependencies, but a dist-upgrade usually fixes most of them | 15:05 |
| Gnine | even though, rhythmbox does not load. there is no crash report auto-generated either. quodlibet runs fine. | 15:05 |
| Gnine | and, i also see update manager holding (unchecked) openoffice updates.. [?] | 15:06 |
| bardyr | Gnine, apt-get dist-upgrade | 15:09 |
| bardyr | i dont have any updates :) | 15:10 |
| cizarro | hmm. what if I install feisty first, and the switch apt to hardy and do an "upgrade"? | 15:10 |
| cizarro | or is that known broken? | 15:10 |
| bardyr | cizarro, you can do that | 15:10 |
| bardyr | i just think you would end up with a bloated system | 15:11 |
| bardyr | cizarro, try the live builds | 15:11 |
| bardyr | but i still think it uses the -3 kernel | 15:11 |
| bardyr | it did last night :/ | 15:11 |
| cizarro | yeah | 15:11 |
| blkorpheus | no | 15:11 |
| blkorpheus | its on -4 | 15:11 |
| cizarro | I'm not really worried about the "bloat", I'll just do a minimal server install anyway | 15:11 |
| blkorpheus | yeah "bloat" is overrated | 15:12 |
| cizarro | now I need to find feisty's netboot somewhere.. | 15:12 |
| bardyr | blkorpheus, the 19th build has 10days old packages | 15:12 |
| bardyr | and is using -3 | 15:12 |
| blkorpheus | I guess it depends which server you get the updates from | 15:13 |
| blkorpheus | not all servers update at once | 15:13 |
| bardyr | blkorpheus, the daily builds from cdrelease.ubuntu.com | 15:13 |
| bardyr | cdimages.ubuntu.com* | 15:13 |
| blkorpheus | oh | 15:13 |
| blkorpheus | I was referring to the actual packages via apt-get update | 15:14 |
| bardyr | they have -4 :) | 15:14 |
| blkorpheus | :) | 15:15 |
| blkorpheus | and -4 is broken for me anyway, -4-server | 15:15 |
| bardyr | -generic works great here | 15:16 |
| blkorpheus | good | 15:17 |
| cizarro | bardyr, I'm doing gutsy netboot install atm. will do an upgrade to hardy after this finishes. thanks for the hints, even if the problem didn't get solved :-) | 15:22 |
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| volk | cryptroot is broken in latest kernel. It seems that for some reason /sbin/udevsettle is missing from the initrd image | 15:27 |
| volk | how can I configure what goes into the initrd image? | 15:28 |
| Tomcat_ | volk: /etc/initramfs-tools | 15:28 |
| volk | Tomcat_, how do I configure what files go into /sbin inside ramdisk? | 15:34 |
| bardyr | is there any way i can control my fan speed or/and disable them? | 16:42 |
| bardyr | its a FSC laptop | 16:42 |
| bardyr | and is there a way to change the nvidia performance mode? | 16:44 |
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| Oli`` | I've had PulseAudio running for a few days but I just restarted and the server isn't running =\ Any ideas? | 17:25 |
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| bardyr | w00t, new kernel updates :D | 18:17 |
| volk | Oli``, maybe you updated your kernel? Try an older kernel | 18:17 |
| volk | bardyr, yeah.. and they totally suck :P | 18:17 |
| volk | several things stopped working for me after the upgrades | 18:18 |
| bardyr | volk, , the -4 kernel fixed alot of things for me and im guessing the -5 will too | 18:18 |
| volk | well I still can't make make my ipw3945 wireless card working | 18:19 |
| bardyr | and the nvidia drivers are available too and thats great :D | 18:19 |
| volk | I get some error about the driver failing to load microcode :S | 18:19 |
| bardyr | volk, do you have the firmware? | 18:19 |
| volk | yeah nvidia drivers aren't a problem, you can always compile them yourself | 18:19 |
| volk | no idea :P | 18:19 |
| volk | I shouldn't need one | 18:19 |
| volk | it should work out of the box | 18:20 |
| bardyr | yea if the firmware is installed | 18:20 |
| volk | well, shouldn't it be installed from the very begining when the card leaves the factory? :P | 18:20 |
| bardyr | nope | 18:20 |
| bardyr | ls /lib/firmware/2.6.24-4-generic/ipw3945.ucode | 18:21 |
| volk | the interesting thing is that I do get the messeage on boot that it finds the card but cant load firmware, but the ipw3945 driver is missing :S | 18:21 |
| volk | ah.. I guess it's compiled in doh ^^ | 18:21 |
| bardyr | volk, what is the exact error message? | 18:21 |
| bardyr | j #Ubuntu-dk | 18:28 |
| hit | hi, any news on this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/184410 | 18:37 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 184410 in hal "hal fails to initialize in hardy alpha 3 after upgrade" [Undecided,New] | 18:37 |
| aboe | did anybody try enemy territory on hardy? | 19:31 |
| Oli`` | volk> Oli``, maybe you updated your kernel? Try an older kernel < 24.4-generic - nothing new =\ | 19:32 |
| aboe | I got a question running full opengl games in hardy?, does anybody else experience strange mouse behavior? | 19:35 |
| xnix | does anyone in here know how to setup surround sound in pulseaudio? running hardy heron | 19:53 |
| kaarel | can anyone tell me how to add custom refresh rates in hardy heron? | 20:46 |
| bardyr | kaarel, xorg.conf | 20:47 |
| kaarel | i tried adding a custom modeline there, but my pc became unbootable | 20:47 |
| kaarel | i had to revert back to the old xorg.conf | 20:47 |
| kaarel | this procedure worked fine in previous releases though... | 20:47 |
| selckin | unbootable != xorg wouldn't start | 20:48 |
| selckin | ? | 20:48 |
| kaarel | i got nothing after the loading screen | 20:49 |
| kaarel | i know i added the right modeline etc | 20:51 |
| kaarel | noone has suggestions? | 20:58 |
| selckin | read xorg log | 20:59 |
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| bardyr | anybody having problem with pulseaudo? does not seem to start | 23:22 |
| crimsun | hmm? | 23:22 |
| crimsun | more verbose, please | 23:22 |
| bardyr | im debugging ;) | 23:22 |
| bardyr | basically pulseaudio timeouts | 23:23 |
| crimsun | "timeouts"? When? How? | 23:23 |
| bardyr | when i try to connect to it with paman | 23:24 |
| crimsun | is this a fresh hardy install? | 23:24 |
| bardyr | yep | 23:24 |
| crimsun | does alsa work correctly? | 23:24 |
| bardyr | something is blocking it atm | 23:24 |
| bardyr | and i cant remember to cmd to see whats bloacking it :/ | 23:25 |
| crimsun | nothing should be blocking PA if you're using a default hardy install | 23:25 |
| bardyr | blocking* | 23:25 |
| crimsun | sudo lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/* | 23:25 |
| bardyr | blocking alsa | 23:25 |
| crimsun | nothing should be blocking alsa, either. | 23:25 |
| bardyr | the sound Preferences say some device is using alsa when i try to test sound | 23:26 |
| bardyr | but it does it will all options | 23:27 |
| crimsun | ok, let's first verify that alsa detects your preferred audio device correctly. Can you do that? | 23:27 |
| bardyr | yea | 23:28 |
| crimsun | so, what does that above lsof command give you? | 23:28 |
| bardyr | nothing | 23:28 |
| crimsun | even with sudo/ | 23:28 |
| crimsun | even with sudo? | 23:28 |
| bardyr | hmmm, no something happened :) | 23:29 |
| bardyr | !pastebin | 23:29 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 23:29 |
| bardyr | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52942/ | 23:29 |
| Gnine | yay | 23:30 |
| crimsun | bardyr: that looks fine. Confirm that you do not have an /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc* | 23:30 |
| bardyr | crimsun, confirmed | 23:31 |
| Gnine | :( | 23:31 |
| crimsun | bardyr: and that your user is in the audio group. | 23:31 |
| bardyr | crimsun, paman is still timing out when it tries to connect | 23:31 |
| bardyr | crimsun, it is but i dont know if gnome has reloaded group rights, probably not | 23:32 |
| crimsun | bardyr: groups|grep audio>&/dev/null;echo $? | 23:32 |
| crimsun | (that command verbatim) | 23:32 |
| bardyr | 0 | 23:33 |
| crimsun | good. | 23:33 |
| crimsun | now, in a Terminal: paplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav | 23:34 |
| bardyr | nothing happens, but the cmd just hangs their | 23:35 |
| bardyr | Connection time out | 23:35 |
| bardyr | Connection failure: Timeout | 23:35 |
| crimsun | very odd, the PA daemon must be sig'd somewhere. | 23:35 |
| crimsun | pkill pulseaudio | 23:36 |
| crimsun | afterward, log out and back in | 23:37 |
| crimsun | then see if the symptom is reproducible | 23:38 |
| bardyr | crimsun, restarted X just made the system hang at login, probably waiting on a timeout, a reboot fixed the problem, i guess the pa deamon has a spatz | 23:45 |
| crimsun | bardyr: hmm, no, it must have been alsa | 23:46 |
| crimsun | bardyr: if you killed the PA daemon, it would have been fine if it had just been PA's fault | 23:46 |
| bardyr | yea | 23:46 |
| blkorpheus | gnome crashes upon stary | 23:50 |
| blkorpheus | start | 23:50 |
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