[00:33] is anyone successfully using Eclipse in Hardy? [00:33] I'm getting lots of crashes with "Assertion `c->xlib.lock' failed", was wondering if it was just me [00:37] oh, found an answer on the forums, it wasn't just me :) [00:37] java bug, set LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=true [00:38] thanks [00:38] Write Once, Stacktrace Anywhere [00:41] ok that seems a wee bit more stable [00:57] Just did the usial update, and got this: [00:57] kmail: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so: undefined symbol: _ZN15KFolderTreeItem13setFolderSizeEx [00:57] Seems like a broken package [00:58] I wish I could downgrade the packages automaticly via apt [00:59] 's why I keep old .debs around [00:59] in /var/cache/apt/archives [01:00] makes it possible to roll back [01:00] will that fix the java plugin ? [01:00] Well I have qute a lot of them there too :-) [01:01] But I tend to clean this folder qute often :-( [01:02] If you have problem with java, try this workaround export ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=1 [01:02] export LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=1 [01:13] great!, I updated few more packages now, and kmail work again. sorry for the noise. === MugginsM__ is now known as MugginsM === IdleOne is now known as chickin === chickin is now known as IdleOne === bigon` is now known as bigon === bigon is now known as bigon` === bmk789 is now known as bmk789_sleep [06:24] do you think firefox 3 will make it into hardy? [06:31] its in hardy [06:31] now [06:55] its in gutsy also [06:55] just a very alpha version === bigon` is now known as bigon [06:57] the beta is nice [07:28] very [07:29] low memory usage [07:29] trying out the new 64bit opera [08:25] hey, is there a known problem with the latest kernel for hardy and the nvidia driver? [08:25] I tried to use the hardy kernel in gutsy because I'm running amd64 and would like tickless [08:25] I also tried just installing hardy fresh [08:26] and each time when the nvidia driver is installed, whether it's through restricted-manager, or just from nvidia.com all I get is a white screen when I boot up. [08:26] no errors in Xorg log [08:26] so I'm not sure where to begin troubleshooting.... [08:31] aslan: just a blank white screen? [08:32] aslan: what nvidia card and what driver are you installing and can you paste the xorg.conf file in a pastebin? [08:33] scizzo-: well the nvidia card is an 8600m GT, and the driver is the latest one in hardy.. not actually on the hardy laptop right now, it's at home [08:33] and I'm at work, I was just hoping for some troubleshooting steps [08:33] I looked through the Xorg.0.log file, and the only thing I see are normal warnings about auto detecting resolution etc... [08:43] aslan: is it the nvidia-glx-new? === Tomcat_` is now known as Tomcat_ [08:51] scizzo-: yes that's what it installs with [08:51] when using restricted-manager [08:51] I also tried installing by downloading from nvidia.com [08:51] and using the script to build my own module based on my kernel version. [08:52] aslan: Do you have xserver-xgl installed? [08:53] RAOF: umm.. I don't think so unless it installs by default [08:53] I've tried a couple different ways [08:53] I tried by doing a fresh install of hardy alpha2 [08:53] and then installing nvidia driver [08:54] the restricted-manager syas I don't have any restricted hardware [08:54] so I tried installing from nvidia.com [08:54] Odd. [08:54] Well, that's a bad plan, basically. [08:54] I can't get alpha3 to work, doesn't like my cd-rom drive [08:54] linux-restricted-modules doesn't play very well with self-installed drivers. [08:55] RAOF: ya I figured [08:55] so I actually reinstalled hardy fresh [08:55] and tried installing nvidia-glx-new [08:55] and same thing [08:55] I then tried using gutsy (fresh install) [08:55] updating kernel to hardy's kernel [08:55] and that went fine [08:56] but when restricted-manager started saying I didn't have any restricted hardware [08:56] and wouldn't install nvidia driver again [08:56] so I tried installing nvidia-glx-new [08:56] and all I get is a white screen [08:56] if I change to vesa in xorg.conf it's fine [08:56] or if I move /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and don't create one, it loads using nv driver [08:57] but won't use binary nvidia driver [09:24] Here's a hint: try self-installed drivers, but first edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common [09:24] and remove the packaged drivers. [09:24] Anyway, I'm going to bed now. [09:44] heya [09:44] i updated to hardy.. however. i dont really see any noticable difference === _emgent is now known as emgent [09:56] err.. my flash stopped wrking :( === _ajmorris_ is now known as ajmorris [11:36] does anyone know if Firefox 3 will make it into hardy? [11:37] yes [11:38] yes, someone knows, or yes, it will? :) [11:39] already in [11:39] so both :} [11:40] it is! Grand! :) [11:41] and very nice it is too :} [11:41] is it as good as it seems? I haven't tried hardy in a while. [11:41] that's great. :) [11:42] well the alpha 3 is a bit rough, but as there will likely be six alphas its not bad [11:42] hardy will be a good LTS. I only wish Nautilus would make Computer, CD/DVD Creator and harddisks hidable with gconf, but that's not very important. [11:43] :-D [11:43] you should read some of the blog posts on the internet on new features--it is going to rock! [11:43] it's only abit annoying when you use gnome on a terminal server, when noone will ever use those things, but no biggie. [11:43] bazhang, I have :) [11:43] XiXaQ: nice! [11:43] bazhang: Any URLs? [11:43] bazhang: Except the Ubuntu wiki / launchpad? [11:44] just a minute Tomcat_ [11:44] I hope it's abit more stable than the last one. I've had some problems with crashes, so I've had to use Opera from time to time, but since that doesn't have a good flash blocker, I've had to switch back and forth. It's annoying. [11:45] http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/30/in-depth-roadmap-analysis-for-ubuntu-hardy-heron-804/ [11:45] XiXaQ: Ack, 7.10 has been one of the most unstable releases for me. [11:46] I think I'll stick with hardy for a good while when it's released. But will it be possible to do direct upgrades from LTS to LTS from now on? [11:46] I don't think it'll be possible to directly upgrade from dapper to hardy? [11:46] there is rumor of such a plan [11:46] yes, I thought I read something about that. [11:48] i wonder why the menus in my gnome-terminal have lost their labels. :) [11:49] XiXaQ: you can upgrade from dapper to hardy [11:49] or at least, by release time, you'll be able to [11:50] really? That's good news. [11:50] well. I don't have any dapperboxes, so it won't have any consequences for me, but it's good to know. [13:22] anyway, i got this encrypted file in ~/some/folder and i can only decrypt IF i place it on the ~/desktop first. sometimes seahorse asks to rename the file first. some other times, not. on deprypt within ~/some/folder , error : could not list file. annoying . [13:29] anyway, i got this encrypted file in ~/some/folder and i can only decrypt IF i place it on the ~/desktop first. sometimes seahorse asks to rename the file first. some other times, not. on deprypt within ~/some/folder , error : could not list file. annoying . [13:30] check premissions? [14:06] selckin: looking into it... === _emgent is now known as emgent === TheInfinity is now known as TheImp [14:56] question, I'm testing hardy install using netboot. which mirror should I select in order to get working kernel modules for the installer? [14:56] I'm using alpha3/server/x86. [14:56] cizarro, anyone you want [14:56] cizarro, the closer the better [14:56] bardyr, but hardy hasn't been mirrored yet? [14:57] or there's something broken, anyhow, the installer claims it couldn't find any matching kernel modules [14:57] hmm [14:57] cizarro, it should be mirrored, try main [14:57] main? [14:57] should I be using expert mode? [14:57] archive.ubuntu.com [14:57] i think [14:57] ah. I tried that one. [14:57] also gb.archive.ubuntu.com [14:58] (the install fails from CD, hence I'm doing netboot) [14:58] hmm why is ipw3945 module missing from latest kernel tree? (2.6.24-3-386) [14:59] cizarro, maybe you need "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted" [14:59] volk, thats not the latest [14:59] bardyr, hmm. while running the installer? [15:00] I thought the installer would use just that when arch.. would be selected as the mirror? [15:00] cizarro, as mirror [15:00] volk: I noticed that as well in alpha 3 [15:00] cizarro, im not sure [15:00] bardyr, it's a menu, not input field. [15:00] oh [15:00] * cizarro nods. [15:00] been a long time since i did a netboot :) [15:00] * cizarro nods [15:01] the cd-rom drive is slightly buggy. it used to work with old serverworks 6 pata driver, but the new "sata"-drivers really make a mess of things [15:01] kernel timeouts on I/O and no further cd-rom access is possible at all. [15:02] it was like this already in gutsy. didn't test feisty on this one. [15:02] i had alot of problems with 2.6.24-3 but all seems fixed with -4 [15:02] yup. the installer uses -3 methinks [15:03] yea [15:03] alright! then I'll install -4 and see if I get it working.. I also have some trouble with cryptsetup on -3 [15:03] anyone here who can reproduce this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/184817 [15:03] Launchpad bug 184817 in ubuntu "unable to lock screen with ctrl - alt - L if numlock is on" [Undecided,New] [15:03] cizarro, even the daily builds use -3 :D [15:03] hmm. so I'm in a bind then. anyone built the kernel and installer initrd for -4? [15:03] ditto bardyr . only minor bugs spotted [15:04] what does it mean when upgrader says that some packages have been kept back? Why? [15:05] volk, it needs some dependencies, but a dist-upgrade usually fixes most of them [15:05] even though, rhythmbox does not load. there is no crash report auto-generated either. quodlibet runs fine. [15:06] and, i also see update manager holding (unchecked) openoffice updates.. [?] [15:09] Gnine, apt-get dist-upgrade [15:10] i dont have any updates :) [15:10] hmm. what if I install feisty first, and the switch apt to hardy and do an "upgrade"? [15:10] or is that known broken? [15:10] cizarro, you can do that [15:11] i just think you would end up with a bloated system [15:11] cizarro, try the live builds [15:11] but i still think it uses the -3 kernel [15:11] it did last night :/ [15:11] yeah [15:11] no [15:11] its on -4 [15:11] I'm not really worried about the "bloat", I'll just do a minimal server install anyway [15:12] yeah "bloat" is overrated [15:12] now I need to find feisty's netboot somewhere.. [15:12] blkorpheus, the 19th build has 10days old packages [15:12] and is using -3 [15:13] I guess it depends which server you get the updates from [15:13] not all servers update at once [15:13] blkorpheus, the daily builds from cdrelease.ubuntu.com [15:13] cdimages.ubuntu.com* [15:13] oh [15:14] I was referring to the actual packages via apt-get update [15:14] they have -4 :) [15:15] :) [15:15] and -4 is broken for me anyway, -4-server [15:16] -generic works great here [15:17] good [15:22] bardyr, I'm doing gutsy netboot install atm. will do an upgrade to hardy after this finishes. thanks for the hints, even if the problem didn't get solved :-) === bmk789_sleep is now known as bmk789 [15:27] cryptroot is broken in latest kernel. It seems that for some reason /sbin/udevsettle is missing from the initrd image [15:28] how can I configure what goes into the initrd image? [15:28] volk: /etc/initramfs-tools [15:34] Tomcat_, how do I configure what files go into /sbin inside ramdisk? [16:42] is there any way i can control my fan speed or/and disable them? [16:42] its a FSC laptop [16:44] and is there a way to change the nvidia performance mode? === ActiveOne is now known as IdleOne === bigon is now known as bigon` === crd1b is now known as crdlb [17:25] I've had PulseAudio running for a few days but I just restarted and the server isn't running =\ Any ideas? === bmk789_ is now known as bmk789 [18:17] w00t, new kernel updates :D [18:17] Oli``, maybe you updated your kernel? Try an older kernel [18:17] bardyr, yeah.. and they totally suck :P [18:18] several things stopped working for me after the upgrades [18:18] volk, , the -4 kernel fixed alot of things for me and im guessing the -5 will too [18:19] well I still can't make make my ipw3945 wireless card working [18:19] and the nvidia drivers are available too and thats great :D [18:19] I get some error about the driver failing to load microcode :S [18:19] volk, do you have the firmware? [18:19] yeah nvidia drivers aren't a problem, you can always compile them yourself [18:19] no idea :P [18:19] I shouldn't need one [18:20] it should work out of the box [18:20] yea if the firmware is installed [18:20] well, shouldn't it be installed from the very begining when the card leaves the factory? :P [18:20] nope [18:21] ls /lib/firmware/2.6.24-4-generic/ipw3945.ucode [18:21] the interesting thing is that I do get the messeage on boot that it finds the card but cant load firmware, but the ipw3945 driver is missing :S [18:21] ah.. I guess it's compiled in doh ^^ [18:21] volk, what is the exact error message? [18:28] j #Ubuntu-dk [18:37] hi, any news on this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/184410 [18:37] Launchpad bug 184410 in hal "hal fails to initialize in hardy alpha 3 after upgrade" [Undecided,New] [19:31] did anybody try enemy territory on hardy? [19:32] volk> Oli``, maybe you updated your kernel? Try an older kernel < 24.4-generic - nothing new =\ [19:35] I got a question running full opengl games in hardy?, does anybody else experience strange mouse behavior? [19:53] does anyone in here know how to setup surround sound in pulseaudio? running hardy heron [20:46] can anyone tell me how to add custom refresh rates in hardy heron? [20:47] kaarel, xorg.conf [20:47] i tried adding a custom modeline there, but my pc became unbootable [20:47] i had to revert back to the old xorg.conf [20:47] this procedure worked fine in previous releases though... [20:48] unbootable != xorg wouldn't start [20:48] ? [20:49] i got nothing after the loading screen [20:51] i know i added the right modeline etc [20:58] noone has suggestions? [20:59] read xorg log === nemik_ is now known as nemik [23:22] anybody having problem with pulseaudo? does not seem to start [23:22] hmm? [23:22] more verbose, please [23:22] im debugging ;) [23:23] basically pulseaudio timeouts [23:23] "timeouts"? When? How? [23:24] when i try to connect to it with paman [23:24] is this a fresh hardy install? [23:24] yep [23:24] does alsa work correctly? [23:24] something is blocking it atm [23:25] and i cant remember to cmd to see whats bloacking it :/ [23:25] nothing should be blocking PA if you're using a default hardy install [23:25] blocking* [23:25] sudo lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/* [23:25] blocking alsa [23:25] nothing should be blocking alsa, either. [23:26] the sound Preferences say some device is using alsa when i try to test sound [23:27] but it does it will all options [23:27] ok, let's first verify that alsa detects your preferred audio device correctly. Can you do that? [23:28] yea [23:28] so, what does that above lsof command give you? [23:28] nothing [23:28] even with sudo/ [23:28] even with sudo? [23:29] hmmm, no something happened :) [23:29] !pastebin [23:29] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [23:29] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52942/ [23:30] yay [23:30] bardyr: that looks fine. Confirm that you do not have an /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc* [23:31] crimsun, confirmed [23:31] :( [23:31] bardyr: and that your user is in the audio group. [23:31] crimsun, paman is still timing out when it tries to connect [23:32] crimsun, it is but i dont know if gnome has reloaded group rights, probably not [23:32] bardyr: groups|grep audio>&/dev/null;echo $? [23:32] (that command verbatim) [23:33] 0 [23:33] good. [23:34] now, in a Terminal: paplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav [23:35] nothing happens, but the cmd just hangs their [23:35] Connection time out [23:35] Connection failure: Timeout [23:35] very odd, the PA daemon must be sig'd somewhere. [23:36] pkill pulseaudio [23:37] afterward, log out and back in [23:38] then see if the symptom is reproducible [23:45] crimsun, restarted X just made the system hang at login, probably waiting on a timeout, a reboot fixed the problem, i guess the pa deamon has a spatz [23:46] bardyr: hmm, no, it must have been alsa [23:46] bardyr: if you killed the PA daemon, it would have been fine if it had just been PA's fault [23:46] yea [23:50] gnome crashes upon stary [23:50] start