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| brandon | #ubuntu-sound | 06:11 |
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| brandon | hey, im just here on my quest to get sound to work on my laptop | 06:13 |
| brandon | how do i use kernel? | 06:15 |
| ripdisk | i need some help getting your kernel to boot, it's telling me it attempted to kill the idle task | 06:17 |
| ripdisk | this is for the live cd | 06:17 |
| ripdisk | i'm trying to install on an old laptop | 06:18 |
| kraut | moin | 07:57 |
| ripdisk | i guess nobody has anything to say about the kernel panic i'm getting, then | 07:58 |
| Kano | hi | 09:21 |
| Kano | hi rtg | 09:24 |
| Kano | when can we expect removed ids from bcm43xx and prism54 and iwl39/49 in lum? | 09:25 |
| rtg | Kano: I am unaware of this issue. Have you started an LP report? | 09:26 |
| rtg | Kano: in particular, what is wrong with iwlwifi? | 09:27 |
| Kano | bcm43xx and ssb share same ids (ssb is used for the b43* drivers and works usually better) | 09:27 |
| Kano | rtg: nothing is wrong with iwl, but it is disabled in the kernel - marked for inclusion in lum | 09:27 |
| rtg | Kano: right, but I have not upload either for build. I have some other stuff to work on before I'm ready to upload. | 09:28 |
| Kano | also the old prism54 module + new p54pci share use same ids, so remove it for both old modules | 09:28 |
| Kano | rtg: they are disabled in git and when you build it you get no iwl.. | 09:29 |
| rtg | Kano: I'm aware of that, but the git repo is not in a consistent state at the moment. | 09:30 |
| rtg | I'll get to it this week. | 09:30 |
| Kano | waiting for it | 09:31 |
| majikins | hi can anyone help me with a raid1 lvm setup on ubuntu server 7.10? | 09:38 |
| majikins | when I test by removing one drive, i get dropped into initramfs prompt | 09:39 |
| majikins | I've googled and have ensured that that the module file includes md and raid1 | 09:39 |
| majikins | ran update-initramfs -u as well | 09:40 |
| majikins | now I'm stuck | 09:40 |
| Kano | what do you use as root option | 09:41 |
| majikins | I don't know what to answer to that? I'm a noob and followed a howto to get lvm and raid setup | 09:41 |
| Kano | usually you get that problem when the root partition is not found. this can be specified using uuid or /dev/mappper/... in case of lvm | 09:42 |
| majikins | ok - pls can you help me specify that - where do I go to? | 09:43 |
| Kano | that was a general hint, i only use u kernels, not u itself | 09:45 |
| smb | abogani: Hi Alessio, I wanted to quickly follow up on my mail about audit settings. Do you think audit syscall should be configured for -rt? | 09:46 |
| abogani | smb: Stefan sorry for my poor english and for missed replay. | 10:14 |
| abogani | smb: At the moment if audit syscall is or isn't configured it is unimportant for -rt. | 10:15 |
| abogani | smb: Feel free to do the most convenient thing for you. Anyway i prefer to remain stick on -generic's configuration as soon as possible. | 10:15 |
| abogani | smb: Thank you and sorry again for missed replay. | 10:15 |
| abogani | s/soon as/ | 10:15 |
| smb | abogani: Alessio, no need to apologize for your english. Mine isn't perfect either. Ok, so (since i just added this to -generic) I will modify the -rt configurations as well. Thanks. | 10:19 |
| abogani | smb: Thank you for your kindness. | 10:25 |
| smb | abogani: Just noticed you already did the change yourself. Sorry for the bother then. | 10:56 |
| laga | Kano: hey, do you use aufs or unionfs for your live disks? | 10:58 |
| Kano | well i did some testing | 10:58 |
| Kano | standard kanotix does not rely on unionfs or aufs, just when you want it you can enable it | 10:59 |
| laga | Kano: i did some testing, too, and found unionfs 1.4 (which is in ubuntu) to be unusable with nfs branches. i was just wondering if you made aufs work on ubuntu's 2.6.24 :) | 10:59 |
| laga | Kano: interesting. what do you use instead? symlinks to a tmpfs? | 11:00 |
| Kano | but for next gen i need it. an image with network-manager does not work when unionfs is used but aufs makes network-manager working | 11:00 |
| Kano | debian live based it is just a switch to set it to aufs or unionfs | 11:00 |
| laga | nice | 11:00 |
| Kano | i added the security perm patch to be able to compile aufs | 11:01 |
| laga | adding such a switch is not hard, especially when you compile aufs with unionfs compatibility. | 11:01 |
| Kano | you just need to add 2 files to the headers manually as they are not there by default | 11:01 |
| laga | Kano: on ubuntu's 2.6.24? | 11:01 |
| Kano | the standard headers are not enough | 11:02 |
| Kano | i guess you could go without the c file if you put it into lum | 11:02 |
| Kano | as it is only grepped | 11:02 |
| laga | i wanna put it into lum, but i need to convince the kernel people first i suppose. also need to add some patches to the kernel itself as you said. | 11:03 |
| Kano | one patch | 11:03 |
| Kano | if you like i can create 2 kanotix ng images | 11:03 |
| laga | Kano: do you still have your aufs source tree? i'd be interested in a copy. compilation is broken with the ubuntu kernel because of apparmor patches (IIRC) | 11:03 |
| Kano | with your latest kernel | 11:03 |
| Kano | i fixed compiliation of course, when you add the 2 files | 11:04 |
| laga | Kano: i'm not an official kernel developer, i just need aufs for my work on mythbuntu | 11:04 |
| Kano | http://kanotix.com/files/kernel/kernel-update-pack-generic-future/source/sec_perm-2.6.24.patch | 11:04 |
| Kano | thats the only patch needed | 11:04 |
| Kano | http://kanotix.com/files/thorhammer/updates/aufs/aufs_0+20071217-0+c0.kanotix.1.dsc | 11:05 |
| Kano | latest snapshot patched for apparmor | 11:05 |
| laga | Kano: thanks a lot! i'll take a look | 11:06 |
| laga | debian/patches/06_remove_ia_file.dpatch - heh, i tried the same hack. does that work for you? | 11:09 |
| Kano | the added patch is 05 | 11:15 |
| Kano | and 06 | 11:16 |
| Kano | maybe 06 is not needed anymore | 11:16 |
| Kano | did not check | 11:16 |
| laga | 06 is still needed last time i looked | 11:17 |
| laga | ie there's no ia_file member anymore | 11:17 |
| laga | (in the ubuntu kernel) | 11:17 |
| laga | now that i think about it, maybe my problems were caused by some other missing patches. | 11:18 |
| Kano | well i adopted the 05 patch from the old aufs from ubuntu | 11:19 |
| Kano | fixed positions | 11:19 |
| laga | Kano: i was talking to the aufs guy and he recommended some additional patches. i can forward the mail if you want to | 11:19 |
| Kano | i wanted to write him too,but my mail was rejected | 11:20 |
| laga | did you sign up on his mailing list? | 11:20 |
| Kano | nope | 11:20 |
| laga | if you want to send email there you have to sign up | 11:20 |
| laga | your email address is master at kanotix dot com, right? | 11:21 |
| Kano | yes | 11:21 |
| Kano | thats not the adress i use to "write" but to get mails | 11:21 |
| Kano | is basically only a forward | 11:21 |
| laga | got mail | 11:22 |
| Kano | laga: btw. i patch my kernels even with dmraid45 | 11:22 |
| Kano | updated dmraid of course too | 11:23 |
| laga | dmraid is for those "fake" raid adaptors, right? | 11:23 |
| Kano | yes | 11:23 |
| Kano | ubuntu does not support raid level 5 | 11:23 |
| laga | raid 5 sounds nice. too bad i'm too cheap for that :) | 11:23 |
| Kano | did not try it myself yet | 11:24 |
| laga | ok, i need to run now. thanks a lot for your help, i'll try the patches ASAP. | 11:24 |
| Kano | but patched the kernel even for 2 ubuntu users + updated dmraid for em *g* | 11:24 |
| * laga wonders why make-kpkg produces kernel packages > 220MB with linux-sources and default ubuntu config while leaving | 11:25 | |
| Kano | laga: take a look at my scripts | 11:27 |
| Kano | http://kanotix.com/files/kernel/kernel-update-pack-generic-future-pure/source/ | 11:27 |
| Kano | get-source* | 11:27 |
| Kano | these compile a patched kernel, you can even add rc8 git patches with ease | 11:28 |
| zdzichuBG | I believe getting http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/17/544 into Hardy kernel is out of question? | 11:30 |
| Kano | splice-2.6.23.patch, put_filp.patch, and deny_write_access.patch. | 11:47 |
| Kano | did you use those? | 11:47 |
| Kano | i think some of em are autenabled | 11:47 |
| Kano | hmm these are kernel patches, maybe i should add em too | 11:49 |
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| abogani | rtg: Are you around? | 15:48 |
| abogani | rtg: I have founded this meta-package: linux-image-debug-rt. Do you want provide a debug version for -rt kernel flavour? BenC always refuse to provide it... | 15:49 |
| BenC | abogani: and we will still refuse to do so :) | 15:50 |
| BenC | abogani: that's a huge package to keep around, plus I'm not sure the binary-custom build can handle DEBUG=y kernels+modules | 15:52 |
| abogani | BenC: :) | 15:53 |
| abogani | BenC: Could you cut out that meta-package? For avoid to confuse users... Thanks. | 15:54 |
| BenC | rtg: you get that? | 15:55 |
| rtg | BenC, abogani: np. | 15:57 |
| BenC | rtg: thanks | 15:58 |
| abogani | rtg: Thanks! | 16:00 |
| rtg | abogani: linux-meta uploaded | 16:33 |
| abogani | rtg: Thank you very much. | 16:35 |
| Kano | rtg: when do you add iwl to lum? | 18:14 |
| rtg | Kano: before I do the next upload. | 18:14 |
| laga | Kano: thanks for your script, i'll try it in a few minutes. have you had the chance to add those additional patches? | 18:26 |
| Kano | did not try, want to wait for the fixes i proposed | 18:26 |
| Kano | but nobody likes to do those it seems | 18:26 |
| laga | :) | 18:26 |
| laga | ok, i'll add those patches then | 18:27 |
| Kano | best add latest git patch too | 18:29 |
| laga | no, i want to use a plain ubuntu kernel | 18:30 |
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| _MMA_ | Hi guys. I having a user asking about using more than 3GB of RAM on -RT and -generic. Says server kernels do. Since I don't have 3GB of RAM and haven't had this issue I don't know what to say. | 21:42 |
| stgraber | he can either switch to amd64 kernels (which shouldn't have the problem) or use the server kernel, highmem is AFAIK not enabled on other kernels | 21:45 |
| crimsun | yes it is. | 22:00 |
| crimsun | grep -i highmem /boot/config-2.6.24-4-generic => CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y | 22:00 |
| mjg59 | crimsun: If it's mapped above 4GB (because there's PCI stuff in the way, or whatever) then it might need CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G | 22:01 |
| crimsun | hmph, we don't enable 2/2 or full or whatever | 22:03 |
| mjg59 | That's not relevant for highmem | 22:05 |
| mjg59 | The 3:1 split is fine | 22:05 |
| crimsun | no, the full option or whatnot | 22:06 |
| mjg59 | Mm? | 22:06 |
| crimsun | oh, nevermind, misread the help. | 22:06 |
| mjg59 | It wouldn't help - with CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G you're still limited to 4GB of physical address space | 22:07 |
| mjg59 | And PCI has to fit in there | 22:07 |
| crimsun | (the VMSPLIT_2G_OPT, which isn't even relevant here) | 22:07 |
| mjg59 | So many BIOSes leave a hole between 3 and 4GB and put the PCI stuff in there, and then map the RAM up >4GB | 22:07 |
| mjg59 | Which means you need CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G to get at it | 22:07 |
| crimsun | fun | 22:08 |
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