=== doko__ is now known as doko === \sh is now known as \sh_away === btraynor is now known as wmat === fabbione is now known as thegodfather === n2diy_ is now known as n2diy [06:11] #ubuntu-sound [06:13] hey, im just here on my quest to get sound to work on my laptop [06:15] how do i use kernel? [06:17] i need some help getting your kernel to boot, it's telling me it attempted to kill the idle task [06:17] this is for the live cd [06:18] i'm trying to install on an old laptop [07:57] moin [07:58] i guess nobody has anything to say about the kernel panic i'm getting, then [09:21] hi [09:24] hi rtg [09:25] when can we expect removed ids from bcm43xx and prism54 and iwl39/49 in lum? [09:26] Kano: I am unaware of this issue. Have you started an LP report? [09:27] Kano: in particular, what is wrong with iwlwifi? [09:27] bcm43xx and ssb share same ids (ssb is used for the b43* drivers and works usually better) [09:27] rtg: nothing is wrong with iwl, but it is disabled in the kernel - marked for inclusion in lum [09:28] Kano: right, but I have not upload either for build. I have some other stuff to work on before I'm ready to upload. [09:28] also the old prism54 module + new p54pci share use same ids, so remove it for both old modules [09:29] rtg: they are disabled in git and when you build it you get no iwl.. [09:30] Kano: I'm aware of that, but the git repo is not in a consistent state at the moment. [09:30] I'll get to it this week. [09:31] waiting for it [09:38] hi can anyone help me with a raid1 lvm setup on ubuntu server 7.10? [09:39] when I test by removing one drive, i get dropped into initramfs prompt [09:39] I've googled and have ensured that that the module file includes md and raid1 [09:40] ran update-initramfs -u as well [09:40] now I'm stuck [09:41] what do you use as root option [09:41] I don't know what to answer to that? I'm a noob and followed a howto to get lvm and raid setup [09:42] usually you get that problem when the root partition is not found. this can be specified using uuid or /dev/mappper/... in case of lvm [09:43] ok - pls can you help me specify that - where do I go to? [09:45] that was a general hint, i only use u kernels, not u itself [09:46] abogani: Hi Alessio, I wanted to quickly follow up on my mail about audit settings. Do you think audit syscall should be configured for -rt? [10:14] smb: Stefan sorry for my poor english and for missed replay. [10:15] smb: At the moment if audit syscall is or isn't configured it is unimportant for -rt. [10:15] smb: Feel free to do the most convenient thing for you. Anyway i prefer to remain stick on -generic's configuration as soon as possible. [10:15] smb: Thank you and sorry again for missed replay. [10:15] s/soon as/ [10:19] abogani: Alessio, no need to apologize for your english. Mine isn't perfect either. Ok, so (since i just added this to -generic) I will modify the -rt configurations as well. Thanks. [10:25] smb: Thank you for your kindness. [10:56] abogani: Just noticed you already did the change yourself. Sorry for the bother then. [10:58] Kano: hey, do you use aufs or unionfs for your live disks? [10:58] well i did some testing [10:59] standard kanotix does not rely on unionfs or aufs, just when you want it you can enable it [10:59] Kano: i did some testing, too, and found unionfs 1.4 (which is in ubuntu) to be unusable with nfs branches. i was just wondering if you made aufs work on ubuntu's 2.6.24 :) [11:00] Kano: interesting. what do you use instead? symlinks to a tmpfs? [11:00] but for next gen i need it. an image with network-manager does not work when unionfs is used but aufs makes network-manager working [11:00] debian live based it is just a switch to set it to aufs or unionfs [11:00] nice [11:01] i added the security perm patch to be able to compile aufs [11:01] adding such a switch is not hard, especially when you compile aufs with unionfs compatibility. [11:01] you just need to add 2 files to the headers manually as they are not there by default [11:01] Kano: on ubuntu's 2.6.24? [11:02] the standard headers are not enough [11:02] i guess you could go without the c file if you put it into lum [11:02] as it is only grepped [11:03] i wanna put it into lum, but i need to convince the kernel people first i suppose. also need to add some patches to the kernel itself as you said. [11:03] one patch [11:03] if you like i can create 2 kanotix ng images [11:03] Kano: do you still have your aufs source tree? i'd be interested in a copy. compilation is broken with the ubuntu kernel because of apparmor patches (IIRC) [11:03] with your latest kernel [11:04] i fixed compiliation of course, when you add the 2 files [11:04] Kano: i'm not an official kernel developer, i just need aufs for my work on mythbuntu [11:04] http://kanotix.com/files/kernel/kernel-update-pack-generic-future/source/sec_perm-2.6.24.patch [11:04] thats the only patch needed [11:05] http://kanotix.com/files/thorhammer/updates/aufs/aufs_0+20071217-0+c0.kanotix.1.dsc [11:05] latest snapshot patched for apparmor [11:06] Kano: thanks a lot! i'll take a look [11:09] debian/patches/06_remove_ia_file.dpatch - heh, i tried the same hack. does that work for you? [11:15] the added patch is 05 [11:16] and 06 [11:16] maybe 06 is not needed anymore [11:16] did not check [11:17] 06 is still needed last time i looked [11:17] ie there's no ia_file member anymore [11:17] (in the ubuntu kernel) [11:18] now that i think about it, maybe my problems were caused by some other missing patches. [11:19] well i adopted the 05 patch from the old aufs from ubuntu [11:19] fixed positions [11:19] Kano: i was talking to the aufs guy and he recommended some additional patches. i can forward the mail if you want to [11:20] i wanted to write him too,but my mail was rejected [11:20] did you sign up on his mailing list? [11:20] nope [11:20] if you want to send email there you have to sign up [11:21] your email address is master at kanotix dot com, right? [11:21] yes [11:21] thats not the adress i use to "write" but to get mails [11:21] is basically only a forward [11:22] got mail [11:22] laga: btw. i patch my kernels even with dmraid45 [11:23] updated dmraid of course too [11:23] dmraid is for those "fake" raid adaptors, right? [11:23] yes [11:23] ubuntu does not support raid level 5 [11:23] raid 5 sounds nice. too bad i'm too cheap for that :) [11:24] did not try it myself yet [11:24] ok, i need to run now. thanks a lot for your help, i'll try the patches ASAP. [11:24] but patched the kernel even for 2 ubuntu users + updated dmraid for em *g* [11:25] * laga wonders why make-kpkg produces kernel packages > 220MB with linux-sources and default ubuntu config while leaving [11:27] laga: take a look at my scripts [11:27] http://kanotix.com/files/kernel/kernel-update-pack-generic-future-pure/source/ [11:27] get-source* [11:28] these compile a patched kernel, you can even add rc8 git patches with ease [11:30] I believe getting http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/17/544 into Hardy kernel is out of question? [11:47] splice-2.6.23.patch, put_filp.patch, and deny_write_access.patch. [11:47] did you use those? [11:47] i think some of em are autenabled [11:49] hmm these are kernel patches, maybe i should add em too === shawarma is now known as soren === \sh_away is now known as \sh [15:48] rtg: Are you around? [15:49] rtg: I have founded this meta-package: linux-image-debug-rt. Do you want provide a debug version for -rt kernel flavour? BenC always refuse to provide it... [15:50] abogani: and we will still refuse to do so :) [15:52] abogani: that's a huge package to keep around, plus I'm not sure the binary-custom build can handle DEBUG=y kernels+modules [15:53] BenC: :) [15:54] BenC: Could you cut out that meta-package? For avoid to confuse users... Thanks. [15:55] rtg: you get that? [15:57] BenC, abogani: np. [15:58] rtg: thanks [16:00] rtg: Thanks! [16:33] abogani: linux-meta uploaded [16:35] rtg: Thank you very much. [18:14] rtg: when do you add iwl to lum? [18:14] Kano: before I do the next upload. [18:26] Kano: thanks for your script, i'll try it in a few minutes. have you had the chance to add those additional patches? [18:26] did not try, want to wait for the fixes i proposed [18:26] but nobody likes to do those it seems [18:26] :) [18:27] ok, i'll add those patches then [18:29] best add latest git patch too [18:30] no, i want to use a plain ubuntu kernel === \sh is now known as \sh_away === fabbione is now known as thegodfather [21:42] <_MMA_> Hi guys. I having a user asking about using more than 3GB of RAM on -RT and -generic. Says server kernels do. Since I don't have 3GB of RAM and haven't had this issue I don't know what to say. [21:45] he can either switch to amd64 kernels (which shouldn't have the problem) or use the server kernel, highmem is AFAIK not enabled on other kernels [22:00] yes it is. [22:00] grep -i highmem /boot/config-2.6.24-4-generic => CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y [22:01] crimsun: If it's mapped above 4GB (because there's PCI stuff in the way, or whatever) then it might need CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G [22:03] hmph, we don't enable 2/2 or full or whatever [22:05] That's not relevant for highmem [22:05] The 3:1 split is fine [22:06] no, the full option or whatnot [22:06] Mm? [22:06] oh, nevermind, misread the help. [22:07] It wouldn't help - with CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G you're still limited to 4GB of physical address space [22:07] And PCI has to fit in there [22:07] (the VMSPLIT_2G_OPT, which isn't even relevant here) [22:07] So many BIOSes leave a hole between 3 and 4GB and put the PCI stuff in there, and then map the RAM up >4GB [22:07] Which means you need CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G to get at it [22:08] fun