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cmacgood evening all. A quick technical queation if I may?01:16
Tar1go ahead01:17
Tar1can't say I'm guaranteed to be any help01:17
cmachauppauge WinTV Express, video perfect but no audio.  Previously solved (long time ago) passing arguments to tda9887 module, but that seems to be missing!01:18
Tar1yeah.. I'm not help01:19
Tar1*no help01:19
cmacthanks anyway :)01:19
cmacrunning out of options here and don't have a reliable internet connection so standard googling is not a option01:20
cmacsuspect I might have to load the firmware for the card from the installation cd01:20
cmaccan't figure out how to pass arguments to tda9887 because it appears to be merged into the kernle.01:23
prekittQuestion, when I play dvd's the volume is really low, this doesn't happen when I play video files and I dont' know how to adjust the volume for the internal dvd player02:03
prekittanyone?02:04
prekittwhat does mythbuntu use for dvd playback?02:04
tgm4883_laptopprekitt, you can use different programs for dvd playback, for instance, you can use vlc or xine02:23
hansoffate_hi anyone here?03:16
hansoffate_I just used the "Optimize Tables" to repair my Mythtv Databases becuase they weren't working03:16
hansoffate_it fixed most of my problems, but when i click on upcoming recordings through Mythweb, nothing shows up03:16
hansoffate_also, would it be smart to backup mysql databases regularly?03:17
lime4x4will a celeron D 2.26 ghz have enough power to run a front end, back end with a pvr 150 tuner code?03:17
prekittwhat's the default one?, I just need to turn up the volume...03:18
hansoffate_prekitt: default keys to turnup volume?03:19
prekittyes..03:19
hansoffate_i blieve its   "[" for volume down and "]" to turn it up03:19
prekittfor the default playback app...03:19
prekittlet me try03:19
prekittwhat is the name of the applications?03:20
hansoffate_lime4x4: i think so ... although the slowest frontend/backend i have run with a pvr150 was a p4 2.0 ghz03:20
hansoffate_prekitt:  oh i thought you meant in mythtv,03:20
prekittthat acutally worked03:22
prekittthanks. :)03:22
prekittbut which application is the app03:23
hansoffate_prekitt: what app?03:27
hansoffate_are you tlaking about?03:27
hansoffate_woot, finally fixed my crashed tables through mysql03:27
hansoffate_much easier then expected03:27
hansoffate_I <3 Mythbuntu03:27
lime4x4so maybe a P4 D dual core cpu would be better then03:49
squish102 lime4x4, u only playing SD, i wouldnt think it would be a problem.. that pvr150 is also hardware encoded03:50
Aquahallicanyone using a playstation 2 emulator on mythbuntu?03:50
lime4x4only sd for right now03:51
Aquahallic?03:52
lime4x4but maybe some hd in a year or so03:52
hansoffate_lime4x4: for HD content, its recommended to use C2D processors03:58
hansoffate_i don't think a D would work03:58
squish102i used to use an amd 64 +3000 as a frontend to play HD content03:59
hansoffate_squish102  waht about recording hd content?04:08
squish102hansoffate_, i currently have that chick in my backend with a pvr150 and a HD tuner, when they both recording, my cpu may hit 5%04:09
squish102wow, i have to not watch tv and type at the same time04:09
hansoffate_hmm04:11
hansoffate_interesting04:11
Technobabbledo you absolutely have to have scheduals direct to use this?04:11
hansoffate_idk, i just know superm1 and tgm recommends C2D when recording HD content04:12
squish102hansoffate_, u coupld probably use a p3 to record hd content. it needs no cpu as it is just writing the digital stream to disk afaik04:18
squish102Technobabble, they give u a free trial dont they?04:18
hansoffate_interesting04:18
Technobabblenot sure, but if they do i'll probably take one04:18
hansoffate_well heres the man04:18
hansoffate_tgm4883: what do you recommend to record HD content?04:19
tgm4883HDHomerun04:19
hansoffate_i mean processor04:19
tgm4883ah04:19
tgm48831Ghz04:19
hansoffate_really?04:19
tgm4883err,04:19
tgm48831.5Ghz04:19
tgm4883recording HD is easy04:19
hansoffate_i thought i asked you before and you said a C2d04:20
tgm4883it's the playback thats a pain04:20
hansoffate_ahh, i see04:20
tgm4883HD is already compressed when it comes in, so it's just a matter of writing to the hard drive04:20
squish102hansoffate_ now do u believe me?04:20
hansoffate_hahha, yea04:20
hansoffate_sorry squish10204:20
squish102np ;)04:20
tgm4883any other questions?04:21
tgm4883I wouldn't get the pentium D processor, as i believe a C2D is a better $/performance ratio04:21
hansoffate_i had issues with mysql databasees, somehwo the crashed, but i used the optimiaztion/repair in mythbuntu control center, and that fixed most of my problems04:22
tgm4883also, i *think* I could have done HD on an AMD Athlon XP 2600+ (I only had a 2000+) but I upgraded to an X2 instead04:22
hansoffate_i see04:22
tgm4883the 2000+ was just not enough04:23
tgm4883almost though04:23
tgm4883with the proper nvidia card that is04:23
hansoffate_do you run a backup of your mysql datatabses?04:23
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tgm4883AFAIK mysql databases get backup automatically04:23
hansoffate-laptoahh, awesome04:24
tgm4883keep in mind though, that it is by default backed up to the same hard drive, so if your hard drive fails you still lose it04:25
hansoffate-laptook, whatever, if my hard drive fails, i'll lose everything anyways.04:25
tgm4883true, but it is handy to keep things like previously recorded shows and "season passes"04:26
hansoffate-laptoalso, 1 more question, for some reason, my mythmusic isn't recognizing my music anymore .... i have my samba share mounted, i can play it thorugh mplayer, actually even mythweb is able to play my music04:26
hansoffate-laptoit just doesn't display thoruhg mythmusic through the frontend04:26
tgm4883errors?04:26
hansoffate-laptotgm4883: ahh, yea, good point04:26
hansoffate-laptonope, just doens't display anything in "All Music"04:27
hansoffate-laptoi have it pointed to the right directory04:27
hansoffate-laptowell i haven't checked the logs ... /var/logs right?04:27
tgm4883start mythfrontend from the terminal, then try playing it, then check the terminal window for errors04:27
tgm4883/var/log/mythtv04:27
hansoffate-laptook, wtf, now that i started it through terminal, its working.  whatever im not going to complain.  Thanks tgm4883 .04:29
hansoffate-laptonow my system is working 100% as it was before it crashed04:29
hansoffate-laptoi accidently killed the power to it, then when i booted it, there was no EPG and no music was working.  Both are fixed now.04:30
tgm4883you dont really ever want to kill the power to a linux box04:31
tgm4883ever04:31
tgm4883ever ever ever04:31
tgm4883not even if it locks up04:31
tgm4883ever ever ever ever ever04:31
tgm4883i've only had to completely cut power once04:31
tgm4883it locked up and nothing would bring it back04:31
tgm4883not even emergency keys04:32
hansoffate-laptoi didn't mean to, i have my damn box hooked up to an outlet that is controlled by a switch. someone was over and they pressed the switch04:32
tgm4883open that baby up and hard wire it04:32
tgm4883and get a battery backup04:32
hansoffate-laptoi ended up taking off the faceplate and rewiring it so it wouldn't happen again04:32
hansoffate-laptoyea, i need to get an APC04:33
Aquahallicanyone played around with mythbuntu and compiz fusion??04:36
Aquahallicwill they even play nice together?04:36
tgm4883they will04:36
Aquahallicyeah?04:37
tgm4883yea kinda04:37
tgm4883it's not a problem running it04:37
tgm4883but some settings do cause minor issue04:37
tgm4883s04:37
AquahallicI think that would be SWEET to be able to spin that cube around and have mythtv running on one of the desktops...04:37
Aquahallicand I'm thinking about snatching one of the Wii remotes and setting it up to control mythtv...:)04:38
Aquahallicseen some pretty neat homebrew wiimote apps out there04:38
Aquahallictgm4883 when you say "Some Settings"... what are you referring to?04:40
tgm4883actually it's just a little extra setup required04:41
tgm4883otherwise the panels will show through04:41
Aquahallicare there any Howtos or anything out there on it?04:42
Aquahallicahhh.. you mean the mythfrontend being transparent and you see the other panels??04:42
tgm4883no, actually it's the frontend not being full screen, it doesn't cover the panels04:43
tgm4883even though it should in full screen mode04:43
Aquahalliccan some settings be changed to make it cover the entire panel?04:44
Aquahallicor are you just stuck with it running in a window?04:44
tgm4883oh yea, it runs fine04:45
tgm4883it's actually a setting in compiz04:45
tgm4883dont know the setting off the top of my head though04:46
Aquahalliccan you specify a specific app to run in full screen or do you have to set a specific panel?04:46
tgm4883it's been so long since I have done it i'm not usre04:48
tgm4883sure04:48
tgm4883superm1 would know more though04:48
Aquahallicie. can you setup compiz to run a specific app in full screen to cover the panel... or do you have to setup a specific panel to allow mythtv to run fullscreen?04:48
tgm4883err, neither04:49
tgm4883basically04:49
tgm4883AFAIK, mythtv normally covers the panels in full screen, when you run compiz, it changes the way the panels are made and that makes it so mythtv (or any program i think) cannot cover it.  This setting is kinda like a legacy setting, allowing the panels to be covered04:51
tgm4883thats probably not a really good way to describe it04:51
Aquahallicno.. that works... I understand now04:52
Aquahallic;)04:52
AquahallicThank You very MUCH!04:52
tgm4883np04:53
* Aquahallic is thinking he's gonna have to try this..:)04:53
Aquahallicgonna make in image of my frontend FIRST though...:)04:53
hansoffateis there a way to be able to boot to kde and launch the frontend?08:12
hansoffatei checked kubuntu08:12
blkorpheusthere is always a way08:13
hansoffatetrue, well... i guess a relatively easy way.08:14
blkorpheusunfortunately it involves reading08:14
hansoffaterofl, thanks08:14
blkorpheusnp08:14
blkorpheusmy mythtv was added after I built the desktop08:15
blkorpheusbut I suppose you could reverse the process08:16
blkorpheusits simply a matter of changing the login in kdm08:17
hansoffateI see. I'll read up on it.  thanks for the help.08:18
DiggThishas anyone had success with installing ati card in mythbuntu?08:45
DiggThisanyone?08:50
Seeker`Is anyone else having problems getting X started this morning?09:07
Seeker`I get an error: dlopen: /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1: undefined symbol: _nv000042gl09:08
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wekhallo all  my question is:  use or do not use dvb-epg-data  in the table http://localhost/mythweb/settings/channels? After finishing the table I plan to run mythfilldatabase --manual16:32
wek hallo all  my question is:  use or do not use dvb-epg-data  in the table http://localhost/mythweb/settings/channels? After finishing the table I plan to run mythfilldatabase --manual16:44
tgm4883I suppose it depends on where you are getting your channel data from16:50
Seeker`I am having problems with glx not loading :(16:58
BastianXGLoh17:01
Seeker`I get a message "libglcore undefined symbol _nv(somenumbers)" in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log17:03
cosmic_hi @ all17:03
cosmic_Does anyone use the telephone plugin for mythtv ? witch SIP Provider do you use ? is there a possibility to use something like netmeeting ?17:06
BastianXGL<<< newbee :)17:07
wek<tgm4883> channel data are to be fetched from www.prisma.de17:08
BastianXGLi have an athlon with 800mhz, it that ok for mythbuntu ?17:10
tgm4883BastianXGL, what tuner card?17:13
tgm4883wek, not sure how you should set it up then, are their instructions on the site?17:13
BastianXGLne tuner card !17:23
Seeker`woo, fixed it17:23
BastianXGLno17:23
tgm4883ah17:23
BastianXGLich want to play dvd an musik17:23
tgm4883BastianXGL, yes, an 800mhz machine should work17:23
BastianXGLok!17:23
BastianXGLand if i would buy a tuner card ?17:24
tgm4883Buy something with a hardware encoder.  A PVR-150 would do very nice in that system17:24
BastianXGLpvr-15017:25
BastianXGLi must say, im from germany  ! i know about haupauge17:25
BastianXGLlike nexus !17:25
BastianXGLbut thes card whith hardware encoder are only seld by ebay17:26
tgm4883ah17:27
tgm4883are any of the other hauppauge cards sold there?17:27
tgm4883the pvr cards that is17:27
BastianXGLwhat about the Grafig-card ?17:29
BastianXGLthe system ist running whith a ati Rage 3D17:29
tgm4883well with your low end machine, you shouldn't expect much.17:29
tgm4883Although that card may be fine17:29
tgm4883you may want to pluck down a few dollars for a nvidia card17:30
BastianXGLok17:30
tgm4883i'm not sure the exchange rate, but i wouldn't spend more than 20USD on a card for that system17:30
BastianXGLok17:30
wektgm4883: no instructions found to solve the question:  use or do not use dvb-epg-data ?  maybe I should try the channel Mythtv-users. thanks by17:30
alexvdtgm4883: this is not strictly mythbuntu related but i get a strange bug in mythweb where when I goto schedule a recording i have to apply it twice before it will work.  Ever seen that one before?17:31
tgm4883nope17:31
tgm4883alexvd, always twice?17:31
alexvdalways17:31
tgm4883or perhaps the backend is being highly used17:31
tgm4883hmm17:31
tgm4883backend log errors?17:31
alexvdbackend is very low memory and very low processor17:31
alexvdi will check but i did not see any17:31
rhpot1991_laptopmaybe the page is reloading before mysql is done?17:32
rhpot1991_laptopand it catches up on the second time?17:32
BastianXGLi want to test the system on my computer monitor, if it works fine i would buy a neu grafik and tuner card17:32
alexvdit only has 256RDRAM and 1ghz coppermine17:32
rhpot1991_laptopwhat happens if you just wait and then reload17:32
rhpot1991_laptopinstead of doing it twice?17:32
tgm4883alexvd, try it once, then wait and open up a recording schedules in a new window17:32
alexvdi will try that17:32
rhpot1991_laptopor check the schedule in mythtv itself17:32
cosmic_BastianXGL:  I am running ubuntu 7.10 + MythTv FRONTEND on an 550 Celeron + 128 MB RAM and it is running fine (watching liveTV, Musilk, Videos) just for info , but ITS only the frontend !!! over17:33
alexvdOk hold on a sec. It takes like a while for mythweb to load17:33
alexvdI wish thier was a way I could pair down the backend and only run the minium services. I only need it to run17:34
BastianXGL@ cosmic thanks for the info,   my system: AMD Athlon K/7 750mhz+ 650mb Ram 120gb hard drive17:34
BastianXGLi think the system should be ok17:35
cosmic_BastianXGL:  I had Ubuntu 6.X + MythTV (Backend+Frontend) running on an AMD Thunderbird 800MHz with 1GB RAM , and it was ok, but not really Supreme if you tried to look LiveTV and record over second TV Card17:35
alexvdtgm4883: You were right.  I scheduled recording and it did not change mythtv status initially. I refreshed and load and behold it did actually change status properly17:35
cosmic_BastianXGL:  Nothing to thanks , thats just for info17:36
alexvdI never saw this before on Knoppmyth17:36
tgm4883alexvd, sounds good17:36
hansoffatemorning all17:36
cosmic_hansoffate morning ;)17:36
BastianXGLwhich video kard are better, in my desktop system i have an ATI Radeon ?17:37
BastianXGLis nvidia better for myth ?17:37
rhpot1991_laptopalexvd: are you mysql tables optimized?17:37
cosmic_BastianXGL:  I prefer NVidia on Linux17:37
hansoffateyes17:37
cosmic_Besserer Treiber support17:37
cosmic_Better supported Drivers17:38
alexvdtgm4883: Is thier a guide or tutorial for running the masterbackend with the minimum services.  I have 5 capture cards, pchdtv and 2 pvr-250 and 4 hardrives in the box. I only use it to do recording.  No frontend and I do the transcodding and flaggin on the slave.  It only has 256Rdram and 1ghz processor17:38
hansoffateyea, i agree with cosmic17:38
BastianXGLmhhmpf17:38
alexvdrhpot1991_laptop: I have selected that yes.17:38
BastianXGLthe Radeon on my desktop are very easy to configure17:38
rhpot1991_laptopalexvd: you can prob move the apache stuff to the slave and just point it at the mysql on the master backend17:38
cosmic_I am using a Nvidia MX 440 Card with 64 MB Ram , and it works fine ;)17:38
tgm4883alexvd, did you do a mythbuntu backend only install?17:39
alexvdtgm4883:yes17:39
hansoffatei got a 30 dollar nvidia fanless 7300 off of newegg17:39
rhpot1991_laptophansoffate: an asus one?17:39
alexvdtgm4883: So i would disable the mythweb on the backend and then enable that on the slave backend?17:40
BastianXGLi need a card with AGP Connektion17:40
tgm4883alexvd, no, that would do nothing17:40
cosmic_My Card is available on ebay.de in a better Version (More Ram / Better Mhz) for something about 20 - 30 EUROS17:40
rhpot1991_laptopit would move the apache load17:40
alexvdthats what i figured. I need to move apache17:40
rhpot1991_laptophe would need to have apache working there17:40
tgm4883rhpot1991_laptop, you would have to more than just move mythweb17:40
hansoffaterhpot1991_laptop   na, its an MSI.  Its actually 20 dollars after Mail in Rebate17:40
tgm4883plus, i believe that the mysql load is larger17:41
rhpot1991_laptopand config mythweb to point at the other computer for mysql17:41
rhpot1991_laptopya I'm sure it is17:41
tgm4883well, configure the entire backend to the other server for mysql17:41
rhpot1991_laptopbut I don't think he would want to move that17:41
tgm4883i've heard about it being done17:41
rhpot1991_laptopunless he wants to switch the slave to the master and the master to the slave17:41
rhpot1991_laptopwhich might make sense if he is having a slowdown17:42
alexvdI have thought of getting more memory but I have read that Issac and the other devs run backends with 256memory.  ALso rdram is expensive.  I can record 3 atsc shows and watch in 1920x1080i at the same time. with some studdering occasionally which i think is from comflagging17:42
tgm4883alexvd, are you just wanting to do this because of the scheduled program issue?17:42
rhpot1991_laptopmoving mysql would give you a nice bottlneck with your network though17:42
tgm4883commflagging is pretty intense17:42
tgm4883maybe move that to a different machine17:43
rhpot1991_laptopya it is17:43
rhpot1991_laptopI thought he said it was running on the slave?17:43
alexvdwell that runs on the slave which is 3.2 ghz dual core with 1gig17:43
rhpot1991_laptop" No frontend and I do the transcodding and flaggin on the slave."17:43
tgm4883ah17:43
rhpot1991_laptopwhy no just make that your master?17:43
tgm4883didn't see17:43
rhpot1991_laptopand the other the slave?17:43
rhpot1991_laptopyou can split cards between them if thats the issue17:44
alexvdmaster has 4 hard drives in it17:44
rhpot1991_laptopyou can split storage too17:44
alexvdinitially it was the cards17:44
tgm4883also make sure that it is in fact disabled17:44
rhpot1991_laptophave each box store its own stuff17:44
tgm4883you can record over the network17:44
rhpot1991_laptopya or that17:44
rhpot1991_laptopnfs share it up17:44
alexvdI originally wanted to do nfs with storage groups17:44
rhpot1991_laptopI have 2 backends, each record to themselves17:44
rhpot1991_laptopand then I make them only run jobs on their own recordings17:45
alexvdyeah I wanted to have the storage on the backend originally and nfs mount it to all other boxes17:45
alexvdi have xboxes and mediamvp17:45
alexvdright now I am allowing the slave to have storage and record locally17:46
rhpot1991_laptopthats what I do17:46
alexvdI tgm4883: when you said make sure it is in fact disabled what di dyou mean?17:47
rhpot1991_laptopjust gotta watch that they don't try to run transcoding on the other box's recordings17:47
rhpot1991_laptopthere is a checkbox in mythtv-setup to disable/enable commflagging on the backend you run it on17:47
tgm4883well i believe that it is enabled by default, so you should run mythtv-setup on your slower machine and make sure that it is unchecked17:47
alexvdI am going to add another terabyte to the slave and use storage groups17:47
alexvdtgm4883: yes I disabled comflagging and transcoding on the slower master backend17:48
tgm4883wtf17:48
alexvdSo it sounds like the best way to do it is just move storage over to the slave.17:48
tgm4883my backend is all screwed up17:48
rhpot1991_laptopalexvd: storage groups are only available on svn currently IIRC17:49
rhpot1991_laptopgotta go with LVM if you want any sort of mass storage17:49
alexvdyep thats why i am not running it17:49
rhpot1991_laptopwhich I don't think works across networks17:49
alexvdi could run SVN but i use this for production17:49
tgm4883alexvd, how well does the mediamvp work with mythtv?17:50
alexvdwell livetv is pretty borked.  it only allows for mpeg2, it cant only real watch recording.17:50
cosmic_BastianXGL:  still there ?17:50
alexvdalso its only for SD17:51
rhpot1991_laptopit just grabs mpeg2 over a samba share right?17:51
tgm4883k17:51
BastianXGLjoop17:51
alexvdxbmc does that17:51
tgm4883yep17:51
rhpot1991_laptopme and tgm4883 have working xbmc mythtv setups17:51
rhpot1991_laptopI say meh to it17:52
tgm4883well, except for live tv17:52
alexvdi fubar my xbox and i have to figure out how to do hotswap17:52
cosmic_why doent you try out installing Ubuntu-server installing gnome package but not gnome-ubuntu , and then installing the HAMSTER packages from hamster.net !?!?! Try it out ;)17:52
tgm4883alexvd, are you running mvpmc?17:52
BastianXGLi´m already installing die mythbuntu from live cd17:53
alexvdtgm4883: i have a problem with the dhcp request with my router.  They want you to run dhcp on the server and then serve up the tftp.  Had it working on the knoppmyt just as test17:53
alexvdtgm4883: i do have one of the older ones17:53
tgm4883cosmic_, what?17:53
cosmic_sorry ?17:54
alexvdI have a question how the heck do you install the latest nvidia driver 169.07 in mythbuntu.  Normally i would use the nvidia installer script for binary, but i was told that would screw up mythbuntu.  The glx new driver has a bug in it.17:55
cosmic_tgm4883: what do you mean ?17:55
tgm4883<cosmic_> why doent you try out installing Ubuntu-server installing gnome package but not gnome-ubuntu , and then installing the HAMSTER packages from hamster.net !?!?! Try it out ;)17:56
cosmic_where is the problem ? , it should be nice meant hint ... whats wrong about that ?17:57
cosmic_by the way , sorry for my english @ all17:57
* tgm4883 wonders why we have voice now?17:59
superm1ChanServ likes us17:59
cosmic_tgm4883:  i mean for my english grammar and writing17:59
alexvdtgm4883: is their away to install the nvidia binary 169.07 driver in mythbuntu without breaking stuff. I cant use the one in glx-new because of the opengl bug18:00
tgm4883superm1, do you know why mythfilldatabase would want to run in the past?18:00
alexvdBTW If i get my mvp working with mythbuntu I will share the instructions with all18:00
superm1in the past?18:00
superm1tgm4883, you can't change the past18:01
tgm4883Suggested next mythfilldatabase run: 2008-01-15 14:46.18:01
superm1check the date?18:01
superm1of the comp18:01
tgm4883sec18:01
rhpot1991_laptopdid it miss a run?18:01
rhpot1991_laptopI think thats just pulled from a db field18:01
tgm4883thomas@myrtle:~$ date18:02
tgm4883Mon Jan 21 10:04:12 PST 200818:02
tgm4883thomas@myrtle:~$18:02
tgm4883seems right to me18:02
superm1that's funny, i thought today was 2007-12-27?18:02
rhpot1991_laptopwhen was the last run?18:02
tgm4883basically, mythfilldatabase hasn't run by itself in awhile18:02
tgm4883Last mythfilldatabase run started on 2008-01-14 21:48 and ended on 2008-01-14 21:49. Successful.18:03
rhpot1991_laptopthats prob why18:03
rhpot1991_laptoprun it by hand it it will prob change that to tomorrow18:03
tgm4883the last run was by hand18:03
tgm4883i'll run it by hand again and see if it changes18:03
tgm4883but i wont be able to run it for an hour18:04
alexvdsuperm1: you are the developer for this right?  Can you tell me how you would install the nvidia 169.07 driver ?18:07
superm1alexvd, you should be able to just follow the standard directions for installing a (newer) nvidia driver than is shipped18:08
superm1nothing is different than on ubuntu's install18:08
superm1that would affect it18:08
alexvdsuperm1: i thought that using the nvidia installer would somehow mess up ubuntu?18:08
superm1alexvd, everything it does can be cleaned up18:09
superm1there are wiki pages out there detailing the proper way to do it so that it wont conflict18:09
superm1(basically it goes into modifying a file in /etc so that it doesn't conflict)18:09
alexvdsuperm1: so you should I use the installer or is thier a specific way for ubuntu18:09
alexvdok18:09
alexvdsuperm1: i will search thanks18:09
superm1alexvd, sorry, i dont have any wiki pages handy otherwise i'd point you at one18:10
alexvdsuperm1: i can search its no issue18:10
DiabolicI get this error during install of mythbuntu: http://nilsarne.brodal.org/installer-crashed.png . Used guided partition for entire drive.18:40
superm1Diabolic, you'll have to pastebin the installer log18:44
superm1and what options you were using18:44
Diabolicsuperm1: The syslog?18:46
superm1/var/log/syslog18:46
Diabolicsuperm1: http://nilsarne.brodal.org/syslog18:48
superm1looks like you are connecting to a remote master backend18:48
superm1and you didn't verify the connection via the "Test Connection" button18:48
DiabolicI just set it up as frontend.18:48
DiabolicI don't intend to connect it to any backend either.18:49
superm1well even if the backend isn't recording anything, a backend has to be installed somewhere18:49
DiabolicOh, ok.  My bad.18:49
superm1so you'll need to do a masterbackend/frontend install then18:49
superm1and just dont choose any tuners18:49
Diabolicsuperm1: "Primary Backend W/ Frontend"?18:55
superm1Diabolic, yeah18:55
superm1( the default installation would have been sufficient for you - that's what it is )18:55
MythbuntuGuest17Hello19:05
Diabolicsuperm1: Are there anything I should change in the setup after install is done?  I'm just gonna use it to play video files.19:05
superm1Diabolic, not really.  just make sure you walk through the "general" page of mythtv-setup19:07
superm1and you'll be fine19:07
Diabolicsuperm1: I should just leave the IP-addresses and ports as it is?19:07
superm1as long as you aren't changing anything yeah19:08
ViakenTo avoid NetworkManager asking for the keychain password on connect, should I disable it and use Gnome's Network configuration dialog?19:08
MythbuntuGuest17I have installed according to instuctions several times over the weekend...Every time I finish It says MySql is not working. I can not find anywhere in the manual about setting up MySql...Am I missing something?19:09
superm1there is a libpam-keyring package19:09
superm1or something similar19:09
superm1that is in apt to prevent that19:09
Viakenaighty19:10
superm1MythbuntuGuest17, how are you installing?19:10
superm1MythbuntuGuest17, from CD, apt?19:10
MythbuntuGuest17cd19:10
superm1so what says mysql isn't working?19:14
superm1and when19:14
MythbuntuGuest17When I am finished with the install and the first reboot is required...I go into the backend setup I get the error.\19:15
MythbuntuGuest17Is there anywhere I can get pay-for-fee support to get this up and running...I am really stuck and want to get this working.19:20
tgm4883eh, i'll just edit the script19:21
DavieyMythbuntuGuest17: what country, area?19:21
superm1edit which script?19:22
MythbuntuGuest17kansas city19:22
Davieymight be worth trying a lug :)19:22
Davieyowww, erm19:22
Davieyone of the devs lives in kansas iirc19:22
MythbuntuGuest17Ok....Ill be gald to pay for support if he / she is willing19:23
superm1MythbuntuGuest17, generally no one here asks for money in this channel19:28
superm1its just to help one another19:29
superm1i missed the details of the issue19:29
superm1when i lost my connection19:29
superm1would you mind reposting it?19:29
MythbuntuGuest17well due to my schedule,,,and timeconstraints...it is tight..19:29
MythbuntuGuest17Ok if you have a few min can we start over?19:30
MythbuntuGuest17I have a very basic question first...from all my reading19:30
superm1sure go ahead19:30
MythbuntuGuest17I have a FreeNas Server in my basement...that contains media files both video and trnascribed dvds19:30
MythbuntuGuest17I want to use Myth to play on home network19:31
MythbuntuGuest17I have several DTV HD DVRS...so I do not need pvr capabilities19:31
MythbuntuGuest17Is is possible to use the Myth frontend to just playback from the NAS?19:31
MythbuntuGuest17and is is possible without a backend ?19:32
superm1well19:32
superm1you need to do regular install19:32
superm1that has the backend installed19:32
MythbuntuGuest17ok19:32
superm1but you dont need to necessarily set up tuners19:32
MythbuntuGuest17right19:32
superm1so if you haven't been doing your installs as normal installs19:32
superm1that's your issue19:32
superm1but what you are looking to achieve is quite feasible19:32
MythbuntuGuest17well I have even tired a normal install19:32
MythbuntuGuest17good19:33
superm1when you do the normal install you still have to walk through all of the regular steps in mythtv-setup19:33
superm1even though you dont have tuners19:33
MythbuntuGuest17and the backend will access the nas?19:33
MythbuntuGuest17as storage?19:33
superm1the frontend will actually19:33
superm1since you aren't using it for recording at all19:34
superm1you'll just need to setup a mount point for the nas19:34
superm1on this box19:34
MythbuntuGuest17So why even configure the backend...what is the rub  ??19:34
superm1its a client-server architecture19:34
MythbuntuGuest17got you19:34
superm1you need the backend running for it to work19:34
MythbuntuGuest17Ill go thru the normal install again and keep this chat open...19:35
DiabolicNow it's just a matter of fixing the overscan.19:35
MythbuntuGuest17hopefully once if fails...(if it fails again) Ill post a question again.19:35
superm1MythbuntuGuest17, you were under the same impression as Diabolic it sounds19:36
superm1both of you were looking to achieve the same result19:36
Diabolic:)19:36
Diabolicsuperm1: You got any experience with overscan, while we're at it? :)19:36
superm1Diabolic, look in the nvidia configuration tool in mcc19:37
superm1you can make some changes there19:37
Diabolicmcc?19:37
MythbuntuGuest17should I configure unique ip address now or set up local host to begin with?19:37
superm1Diabolic, mythbuntu-control-centere19:37
superm1*centre19:37
superm1MythbuntuGuest17, do it local19:37
superm1you'll make things more complex otherwise19:37
Diabolicsuperm1: That should work with the nv driver?19:37
MythbuntuGuest17k19:37
superm1Diabolic, no19:37
superm1you need the binary driver installed19:37
Diabolick19:38
DiabolicThen I gotta try to install it with the overscan present :))19:38
MythbuntuGuest17superml....are you the Kansas resident?19:38
ViakenMy head hurts. This isn't the easiest project I've ever done. :P19:39
superm1MythbuntuGuest17, no i'm not19:39
ViakenMy STB won't respond to commands, I had a lot of trouble getting the IR reciever to work, and now my TV input's not working...19:40
MythbuntuGuest17I bought a solidstate HardDrive 2gigbytes...is that large enough for a front/back install in this situation?19:41
superm1MythbuntuGuest17, yeah19:42
superm1you can get away with ~1 gig19:42
MythbuntuGuest17great...trying to keep it quiet19:43
MythbuntuGuest17So since I do not want to use as pvr I can deselect the backend drivers?19:44
superm1MythbuntuGuest17, won't hurt one way or another19:45
Diabolicsuperm1: So, nvidia driver installed.  What should I be looking into at the mcc?19:50
MythbuntuGuest17Ok the load has completed...and I am at the point where I can do one of 3 things....open Schedules Direct, launch MythTV Setup or finish...which would you suggest?19:54
superm1like i said before, you need to run mythtv setup19:55
superm1Diabolic, there is a button for nvidia configuration utility19:55
MythbuntuGuest17will do19:56
MythbuntuGuest17Superml...If I understood you...I should just take defaults to start with...correct? IE Directory to hold recordings20:01
MythbuntuGuest17I am getting a message to run mythfilldatabase....I have never seen an option to run this anywhere...can you  elaborate?20:06
superm1MythbuntuGuest17, you dont need to20:06
superm1since you dont have guide data20:06
MythbuntuGuest17ok where do you suggest I skip to?20:06
superm1that's it20:06
superm1it should be done20:06
superm1you can hit the reboot button at the dialog20:07
MythbuntuGuest17the "finish" button?20:07
superm1yeah20:07
MythbuntuGuest17thx20:07
Diabolicsuperm1: Yes, I know.  But I have no idea what to do in there.20:08
superm1Diabolic, there is a slider to adjust overscan (only if you are using svideo or composite out though)20:08
Diabolicsuperm1: I'm using DVI->HDMI20:09
superm1Diabolic, then you dont have options for overscan20:09
superm1adjust them on your tv (if it supports it)20:09
Diabolicsuperm1: So, I'm all fucked then?20:09
superm1Diabolic, this is one of those things i get on a soap box about alot20:10
* superm1 gets up on top20:10
superm1okay so here is the deal20:10
superm1the implementation of dvi allows for overscan20:10
superm1at least in TVs20:10
superm1computer monitors have more strict requirements, but for TVs the dvi port (or hdmi) was intended to be used with say a blu ray20:11
superm1or set top box20:11
superm1which put overscan into their content20:11
superm1if your tv has a vga port, typically the vga port will give you full resolution20:11
superm1because it is intended to be used with a PC20:11
* superm1 gets back down20:11
DiabolicSo, I should switch to VGA?20:12
superm1if you have it available yes20:12
superm1i went through the same problem with my tv20:12
DiabolicI do.20:12
Diabolick20:12
Diabolic*sigh*20:12
* Diabolic surrenders.20:12
superm1so i've got a 20 dollar DVI-HDMI cable sitting around that i never returned, but i'm quite happy with VGA20:12
MythbuntuGuest17ok super...I have rebooted...and I need to attach to my NAS server now?20:12
superm1MythbuntuGuest17, yeah you'll need to mount it using cifs or smbfs20:13
superm1to /var/lib/mythtv/videos20:13
MythbuntuGuest17k20:13
MythbuntuGuest17go to mmc and terminal window to do so ...I would assume?20:13
superm1you can do it there or via ssh20:13
MythbuntuGuest17On thing you should know here.....20:15
MythbuntuGuest17I have a raid0 for video and a single harddrive for music...20:15
superm1well i'm assuming you have your NAS already exporting that to a cifs or smbfs share20:15
superm1or nfs share20:15
superm1or something similar20:15
MythbuntuGuest17yes cifs20:15
superm1then don't worry about it20:15
MythbuntuGuest17ok20:16
superm1you can mount the shares however you need to20:16
MythbuntuGuest17I know enough linux to screw it all up20:16
superm1well get the mount command right, and once you do you can add it to your fstab, you won't screw anything up that way20:17
MythbuntuGuest17ok im in that directory20:17
MythbuntuGuest17seems to be empty20:17
superm1exactly20:18
superm1you need to mount it with cifs20:18
MythbuntuGuest17that is beyond my knowledge base20:18
superm1http://linux.die.net/man/8/mount.cifs20:19
superm1that explains how to use it20:19
MythbuntuGuest17thanks20:19
MythbuntuGuest17I shall return20:19
MythbuntuGuest39Hi guys, is it OK to discuss mythtv-setup script here?20:20
rhpot1991_laptopMythbuntuGuest17: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently20:20
superm1that's a much better link :)20:21
superm1MythbuntuGuest39, you have a problem with it?20:21
MythbuntuGuest39just a small issue: mythfilldatabase seems to be run before mythbackend is started20:21
superm1does the order really matter ?20:22
rhpot1991_laptopsuperm1: best to put that stuff in fstab IMO20:22
rinaldi_hey i installed mythbuntu a while ago. I've got a hauppuage dvb card and ir remote. i enabled the remote from the control centre but i can only use the directional buttons and the OK button. is there any other way of mapping all the other buttons? eg record/ channel up/ guide...20:22
superm1rhpot1991_laptop, yeah i agree, but he should get it right before putting it in there so as to not fsck things up20:22
rhpot1991_laptopya prob a good idea20:22
MythbuntuGuest39umm, mythfilldatabase tries to talk to mythbackend and retries if it is not running20:23
rhpot1991_laptopmythfilldatabase writes to mysql20:23
rhpot1991_laptopdoesn't need the backend running20:23
MythbuntuGuest39I have set it so it retries 5 times after 5 seconds each - equals 2x25 seconds waiting for mythfill to finish20:24
superm1but MythbuntuGuest39 is right it does try to contact mythbackend20:24
superm1that's easy enough to change20:25
superm1and sensible enough20:25
superm1i'll commit a change for it20:25
MythbuntuGuest39I had it changed, worked OK for me :)20:25
MythbuntuGuest39until next update...20:25
rhpot1991_laptophmmm my bad20:25
MythbuntuGuest39Thanks a lot superml!20:26
superm1no prob20:26
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superm1MythbuntuGuest39, if you are on hardy, the update will show up in a few days.  if you are on gutsy, it will be on next week's weekly builds (if you use them)20:31
MythbuntuGuest39I'm on gutsy & weekly builds, I'll use my unofficial patch in the meantime :)  Thanks!20:33
rhpot1991_laptopsuperm1: did that constant updating thing ever get fixed?20:33
superm1rhpot1991_laptop, it should be fixed in the next launchpad release20:34
superm1they committed a fix for it20:34
rhpot1991_laptophow often does that happen?20:34
superm1beats me20:34
rhpot1991_laptopI'm assuming someone will comment in the bug report when it rolls out20:34
rhpot1991_laptopI am subscribed to that20:34
superm1yeah if you have been watching, it's been set to "Fix Committed"20:35
superm1meaning that its on staging.lp.net20:35
superm1right now20:35
superm1and will be copied over on the next lp release20:35
rhpot1991_laptoplet me check and make sure I am subscribed to the right one20:37
kjetil_funny, my X just stopped working on me. /var/log/Xorg.0.log has last modification last night, even though I've restarted the box many times20:39
rhpot1991_laptopya, its the right one, fix committed20:40
kjetil_and syslog says20:40
kjetil_Jan 21 21:34:28 tigger gdm[5656]: CRITICAL: gdm_config_value_get_bool: assertion `value->type == GDM_CONFIG_VALUE_BOOL' failed20:40
superm1kjetil_, see if the drive is filled20:40
kjetil_superm1: nope20:41
kjetil_it would be surprising, a brand new 500 GB :-)20:41
superm1check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old?20:41
kjetil_-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24263 2008-01-11 18:47 /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old20:41
kjetil_-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24294 2008-01-20 19:46 /var/log/Xorg.0.log20:41
superm1well that's odd.20:41
* kjetil_ nods20:41
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KjetilKseems like gdm has a problem reading my config20:43
KjetilKwhich I don't think I've ever modified20:43
MythbuntuGuest17hello superml....Think I have the mnt down now20:59
MythbuntuGuest17do I just test by trying to run a video? or is there more setup?21:00
superm1MythbuntuGuest17, once its mounted, then go into mythvideo settinsg21:02
superm1and you can have it refresh the list of videos available21:02
MythbuntuGuest17guess Ill have to play with the file share a bit...doesnt find the files...21:05
MythbuntuGuest17is that all once I have this working? Am I finished?21:06
superm1yeah21:07
MythbuntuGuest17Thanks so much...I guess I was tring to make more out of it with the database and all21:07
MythbuntuGuest17appreciat the help21:07
superm1no prob21:08
MythbuntuGuest17super one last general question....21:16
MythbuntuGuest17when I leave the main Myth screen and go to mmc...when I go back to the menu I only get a blue screen...how do I get the menus back?21:17
superm1hit esc21:17
MythbuntuGuest17thanks21:17
MythbuntuGuest17esc doesnt work...only the bluebackground21:18
pdragonanyone recommend a cheap soundcard with SPDIF output that is known to work in Ubuntu/Mythtv?21:21
superm1oh you have to close mcc21:21
MythbuntuGuest17ill give it a try21:21
superm1sorry21:21
superm1pdragon, the SB 24 bit ones worked for me21:21
superm1i spent i think 25-30 on mine21:22
pdragonhmm... can't find any SB ones with an SPDIF port on newegg21:42
pdragondo the turtlebeach ones work?21:42
pdragonor there are SB ones, but they're the super high end ones21:42
superm1don't know about any other ones21:44
pdragonguess i should say SPDIF optical audio.21:45
pdragonhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102012   that one says SPDIF, but doesn't have the optical jack21:46
pdragongotta head out. will bug ya more some other time. thanks!21:51
MythbuntuGuest17is superml still here?22:23
lime4x4would a dual core 1.6 be able to handle a front-end and backend mythbuntu box?23:51
portahexfor SD, definitely23:57

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