[00:01] Riddell: for kdebindings-kde4, do I drop all the KDE3 stuff from the package? [00:02] ryanakca: are you going to include kross? [00:03] tlayton: dunno. I'm just merging qyoto into the kdebindings and renaming it to kdebindings-kde4 [00:04] just curious. liquidweather requires it in superkaramba-kde4 [00:14] Hobbsee: hey, in debian/rules for qyoto there's "binary-post-install/qyoto-examples::". Do I put it in kdebindings' qyoto-examples.postinstall or rules? [00:15] ryanakca: i tend to chuck it in rules. i've never done a postisnt. [00:17] Hobbsee: ok, thanks [00:18] but as for a "install/qyoto-examples::", I assume I'm safe in putting it in qyoto-examples.install since its just a bit of dash/bash script? [00:21] nevermind [01:13] gn8 [01:14] evening :) [01:15] good evening jjesse! [01:15] * Jucato wishes this week were over... [01:16] hello Jucato [01:16] if the week was over i would be sitting in the airport waiting for a flight home, instead of sittting in an airport wiaitng for a flight there [01:16] blazing speed at Denver International Airport [01:20] :) === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [01:20] see what i mean about blazing fast connections :) [01:21] hehehe [01:22] i love add supported wireless [01:22] its awesoe [01:35] is this thing still on/ [01:35] no [01:36] thta's what i figured [01:36] ;) [01:38] stdin: ping, how would one go by packaging just a section of the kdepim branch? [01:38] aka knotes-kde4? [01:39] ryanakca: btw you were able to successfully build kdebindings-kde4? [01:39] Jucato: I need to talk to Riddell about it tomorrow [01:40] ryanakca: not easily, you'd need to separate it out into another source package unless you build all of kdepim but only create a knotes .deb [01:40] ryanakca: you might run into problems with smoke, since it seems to still be using Qt 3 stuff... and smoke is required for the ruby bindings... so... [01:41] Jucato: ah, well, for now we aren't going for kdebindings-kde4, just merging qyoto into kdebindings (kde3)... and then when Debian gets the kde4 section further along, I guess we'll merge up / to that... [01:41] well, at least I'm not going for it. [01:41] good luck :) [01:42] stdin: ah... hmmm. shucks :) [01:42] * Jucato is more interested in the python bindings more than anything :) [01:42] stdin: so, make a knotes~svn take kdepim/knotes and put it into knotes~svn/src ... and build around that? [01:42] hey apachelogger__ [01:43] * Jucato wonders if it shouldn't be easier to cherry pick what to build now that KDE uses cmake... [01:43] * ryanakca shrugs [01:44] * Jucato shrugs too [01:44] ryanakca: just about, you don't need to make the directory. just check-out the source and put a debian/ dir (and remove the .svn dirs) [01:44] I really never got the hang of debian packaging :( [01:47] Jucato: :( [01:48] ryanakca: yeah... I have a recurring pattern of learning then forgetting... and the cycle repeats every 6 months... : [01:48] like now, I'm about to enter that part of learning again :P [01:49] lol [01:50] stdin: hmm... according to dependency-graph.dot... knotes depends on kontact and kressources, and kresources depends on wizards and karm... :| [01:52] ryanakca: probably a good idea to forget about knotes-kde4 until kdepim is released then [01:53] * ryanakca nods [01:54] or compile it from source if you really need it.. :) [01:55] Riddell: ok, for whenever you get up in the morning, I asked in -motu for a bit of help in the merging process, and Laserjock recommends talking to you before recreating the .orig.tar.gz, since kdebindings was originally distributed as a tarball from kde.org [01:57] Riddell: and modifying an upstream tarball is "sorta fishy"... I can't just plop the qyoto source into the kdebindings-3.5.8/ dir, update the debian/ dir and run debuild -S -sa because of some of qyoto's binary files, which spit out errors of this type: [01:57] dpkg-source: cannot represent change to qyoto/csharp/qyoto/examples/graphicsview/collidingmice/images/cheese.jpg: binary file contents changed [01:59] Riddell: you can find the whole list of errors here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52952/ , and my debian/ dir at http://blog.ryanak.ca/kdebindings-3.5.8.debian.tar.gz [02:00] Jucato: or that :) [02:02] nixternal: how does this mockup look? http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mockupwipmf3.png [02:03] I'm not nixternal. the mockup looks good except for the grey... :P [02:03] i agree i'm not nixternal (not that i would want to be) but i like it ;0 [02:03] hahah :) [02:03] maybe the grey could be less gray and/or a bit translucent? [02:05] Jucato: credits to mhb :) [02:05] I'll remember to pat his back when he's here [02:06] Jucato: I think the grey is just to show themeable areas? [02:06] ah [02:06] hopefully :) [02:06] awesome flight delayed for an hour [02:06] lol [02:06] good thing there is power nearby for my laptop [02:07] ouch... [02:07] you really have the worst of luck when it comes to airports and hotels... :( [02:07] yup [02:07] i do which sucks cause i travel so much [02:08] I have never been outside my "own territory" :-P [02:08] Tm_T: that used to be me before i started being a consultant [02:08] I don't even have my "own territory" to be outside of.... [02:10] * ryanakca wonders as to what the definition of "own territory" is... [02:11] i assumed it was home state? or something similar? [02:11] my own territory is his bedroom and his desk... even though its not really his since his parents can tell him to clean it... and its in their house... [02:11] jjesse: what kind of consultant? [02:11] my own territory is, well, better not to tell =) [02:12] computer consultant for a company that specializes in Symantec/Altiris [02:12] jjesse: isn't that some kind of antivirus company? Norton? [02:13] actually in charge of training for my company (but its a small department working on builing it) [02:13] yeh [02:13] ryanakca: symantec makes norton antivirus, owns veritas backup exec and altiris [02:13] jjesse: ah :) [02:13] basically the company i work for does systems management [02:13] * ryanakca nods [02:13] or as we like to refer it asset lifecycle management [02:14] altiris makes a product that can deploy computers (images), inventory the machine, do asset management, helpdesk (service desk), software deployment, windows patch deployment [02:17] heh :) [02:18] * ryanakca => bed [02:18] g'night ryanakca! [02:19] grumble link dropped in airport === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [02:19] did it make senses what i said altiris does [02:20] jjesse: [10:18] * ryanakca => bed [02:20] ah [02:22] wow this ad supported wifi is terribly slow [02:22] i just typed ad supported wife :) [02:23] boo yaa! [02:23] Cloverfield is awesome [02:23] yeah? [02:23] yes [02:24] Make sure to take a Dramamine if you go see it though [02:25] ok [02:26] hrmm i see 6.06.2 was released, any kubuntu changes ? [02:31] jjesse: It's just a reroll of the CD with all the security/updates added in. So whatever was in the archive is now on the CD. [02:31] The biggest changes were in the kernel for new hardware support. [02:31] ScottK: thanks, should we have an announcement like ubuntu does? [02:31] like on the webiste [02:32] Dunno. [02:32] I think it's mostly of interest for ubuntu-server [02:32] Since we don't have another LTS for people to upgrade too, I'd say the less mention the better. [02:37] ok thats fine with me i guess [02:45] jjesse: back for a minute (I sat up in bed with the realisation that I forgot to print my homework)... Yes, that altiris stuff makes sense... quite interesting too :) [02:45] ryanakca: it is, i wish there was better linux support, it is there but not as good as it could be [02:45] they support red hat and sled [02:46] sled? hmm... so if you were running RH... you could deploy images, software, patches, etc? [02:46] ryanakca: yes i could [02:47] ryanakca: i could deploy images of any OS [02:47] but patches and software for sled and red hat [02:48] ah [02:48] I'm guessing closed source, so no way of modifying/fixing it to work with the Debian family? [02:49] yes closed source but at UDS malcolm and i had a call with altiris on getting debian/ubuntu support [02:49] and it s currently not in the roadmap [02:49] heh [02:50] but i have the product working on my kubuntu virtual machines doing software delivery and inventory but in a non-supported way [02:50] * ryanakca nods [02:50] anyways i'll let you go to bed :) [02:51] * Jucato runs away with ryanakca's bed [02:51] lol [02:51] eh... I think I'll be here for a while. [02:51] no choice now :D [02:52] anyways its a great tool for enterprises, most of our customers are 3k to 7k client [02:52] s [02:52] * ryanakca 's keyboard layout is messed up in KDE4... so either I sed all my accented letters to \'{a}, \^{e}, etc... or try to fix the keyboard layout... hmmm [02:52] why do I always associate "Enterprise" with the U.S.S. Enterprise? [02:53] Jucato: i do the same [02:53] I do with bloated java spaghetti [02:53] "because it needs some enterprise! [02:53] " [02:54] heh... looks like kde4 keyboard shortcuts are "cancelling" out my right-alt-symbol-character... [03:00] bummer [03:03] * ryanakca decides to switch to KDE3... brb [03:07] i really like marking bugs as invalid or fix released based on the comments in the bug :) [03:08] fixed ˙˙ partally [03:09] what is fixed partially? [03:09] your keyboard shortcuts? [03:10] Jucato:for bug # 17751 you last asked if there was a status update on 2007-03-14, would you mind closing out this bug? [03:11] as there has been no response [03:14] hrmm heading out fo find food, maybe be back later [04:18] nixternal: ping [04:26] nixternal: ping ping ding-a-ling! [04:26] * Hobbsee throws pebbles [04:27] Get a bigger rock. [04:59] Have any of you experienced a bug in which when you press "Ctrl+Tab" on the last tab of Konqueror 4, it crashes immediately? [04:59] * genii sips a coffee and wonders if there's some known fix [05:02] Hello genii!!! :) [05:02] Genii, I think I have met you before. :) [05:03] QMario: yes. I am the same genii in #kubuntu and #ubuntu and here [05:04] QMario: I am sorry you do not seem to be getting much feedback. I think no one knows yet of this last tab then Ctrl-Tab bug/issue [05:05] Genii, have you been able to reproduce it? [05:05] QMario: I'm on 3.5.8 right now [05:05] Ahh... [05:07] QMario: If it's a reproducible error, report it to launchpad [05:08] QMario: I'll check my kde4 box tomorrow and try. If same occurs I will also file a bug report [05:12] Can no one here test the last tab ctrl-tab crash ?? [05:17] genii: don't see it here [05:18] though, what's ctrl-tab supposed to do, cause i don't think it's working [05:18] yuriy: It is supposed to toggle thru the open tabs in konq [05:19] i figured, but it doesn't seem to work [05:19] doh, kmail broke. [05:19] i've had some issues with keyboard shortcuts in kde4 in general [05:30] genii: that's not the default KDE/Konq behavior though... [05:30] Hmm [05:36] hm.. I don't think Ctrl+Tab is set to anything by default in KDE 4.0 after all... but certainly not for Konqueror's tab switching [05:36] Doesn't switch tabs here but hitting it does crash Konqueror. [05:36] Hads, I knew it! :) [05:38] Hads, or rather, I had it! ;) [05:39] What -dbg package will give the symbols for that? [05:42] Hads, I don't know, but try running it with gdb. I tried it with gdb, and it gave me 0xb6e7ece0 in QTabWidget::qt_metacall () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 [05:45] Yeah, same here but not symbols so it isn't too much use. [05:48] kmail gives an undefined symbol here after the last update in case it's not known yet; "kmail: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so: undefined symbol: fstat64" [06:09] hads: have you reported it on launchpad? [06:14] stdin: Not yet, will do just organising dinner :) [06:15] hads: I'll report it, and you can confirm then [06:17] stdin: Oh, thanks much. I will confirm after tea when I see it. [06:20] it's bug #185004 [06:20] Launchpad bug 185004 in kdepim "KMail symbol lookup error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185004 [06:37] who is going to package Kepas? [06:39] apache|mobile: what is Kepas? [06:40] smarter: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3221 [06:42] seems cool, does it only works with KDE zeroconf? [06:43] well, zeroconf = that stupid apple peer detection crap [06:43] so it can interact with every app capable of this [06:43] in theory at least ;-) [06:43] packaging shouldn't be difficult from what I see [06:43] COPYING is missing [06:43] that should be all [06:46] according to kde-apps it's under gpl(2+?) [06:46] yeah, and GPL requires the source distributor to add a full copy of the license to the src [06:48] apache|mobile: so what should we do? Mail the author, patch the source? [06:48] mail the author [06:53] apache|mobile: I'll do it [06:53] woohooo [06:53] * apache|mobile is dying of the heat in his class [06:54] Thanks for reporting that stdin, confirmed. [06:55] apache|mobile: do you know where exactly in the GPL it is stated that you must provide a copy of it? [06:56] just grep for "full copy" .... I think [06:56] or complete copy [06:56] something with copy at least ;-) [06:56] heh [06:57] found [06:58] but it's "you should have received a copy ..." I don't think it's a requirement (but IANAL ;)) [07:00] smarter: "give any other recipients of the Program a copy of this License" [07:01] GFDL and LGPL are clearer on this [07:01] LGPL: "You must supply a copy of this License." [07:01] GFDL: [07:01] "To use this License in a document you have written, include a copy of [07:01] the License in the document and put the following...." [07:14] apache|mobile: it's packaged and it works ;) [07:14] woohoo [07:34] hi [07:41] http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~apachelogger/tmp/path7055.png [07:41] ahoy blizzzek === aRyn_ is now known as aRyn [07:44] howdy apache|mobile [07:57] moin apache|mobile [07:58] hoi emonkey [08:20] \sh_away: You can read up on the releaste-team ML [08:26] latest updates this morning have broken kmail for me [08:27] kmail: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so: undefined symbol: fstat64 (i'm on x86) [08:27] bug #185004 [08:27] Launchpad bug 185004 in kdepim "KMail symbol lookup error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185004 [08:28] i must either be stupid or launchpad's search function broken [08:28] probably the former :P [08:30] Riddell: do you have any major problem if some of us moderate the entire kubuntu-users ML? [08:52] good morning folks [08:57] Hobbsee: what do you mean by "the entire"? [08:58] Riddell: everything not sent by subscriber I guess [08:58] non subscriber post is rejected [08:58] with the exception of spam [09:00] everything sent by the list, at all. [09:00] ryanakca: qyoto should already be in kdebindings-kde4 [09:00] unless bible talk is suddenly appropriate for a kubuntu support list? [09:00] :D [09:02] Hobbsee: how do you suggest to moderate that? set some users on Hold posts? [09:02] Riddell: i've put in some holds at the moment [09:03] Riddell: otherwise, get people to check the list regularly, and moderate every single post thru there, until they get the idea. [09:03] Sounds like some annoying work. [09:05] Oh, that is a large OT thread. [09:05] hads: that's not the only one [09:05] see the stuff about list ettiquite on the alternatives to kubuntu [09:09] Ug. I see what you're saying. Moderating an entire list like that would create a bit of work though. Perhaps some stern words and a few moderation bits would work. [09:09] Doh. [09:09] Ug. I see what you're saying. Moderating an entire list like that would create a bit of work though. Perhaps some stern words and a few moderation bits would work. [09:09] stern words often don't work on mailing lists, they just generate more disussion [09:09] hads: yeah. will try that one first [09:09] unfortunately, i can't see my own post yet [09:09] Riddell: that depends on what you do with the resulting discussion :) [09:10] More moderation bits :) [09:10] 'xactly [09:15] jpatrick: hmm? [09:38] <_StefanS_> hi there [09:39] <_StefanS_> anyone else expericened kde4 on hardy having problems loading the desktop (it just returns back to kdm) ? [09:39] <_StefanS_> just happened recently; dont know exactly why... [09:40] _StefanS_: kdm from kde 3? [09:41] <_StefanS_> Riddell: yes kdm 3 [09:41] <_StefanS_> I cant recall having removed any packages belonging to kde4 [09:41] <_StefanS_> wierd.. [09:42] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I tried deleting ~/.kde4 in case that some settings were corrupted [09:42] <_StefanS_> Riddell: to no avail.. [09:42] _StefanS_: look in ~/.xsession-errors [09:43] (from linux command line) [09:43] <_StefanS_> 2secs [09:43] <_StefanS_> seems like i have to relogin to kde4 and check it from a console. [09:43] <_StefanS_> brb [09:46] <_StefanS_> Riddell: http://enhance-it.dk/kde4-xsession-errors.txt [09:47] <_StefanS_> I wonder if its the composite thats making problems.. [09:48] You don't have permission to access /kde4-xsession-errors.txt on this server. [09:48] <_StefanS_> oh sorry [09:49] <_StefanS_> Riddell: try again [09:51] <_StefanS_> brb, I'm trying to re-enable composite [09:55] <_StefanS_> Riddell: enabling composite didn't make a difference, is there any files in ~/.kde related to kde4? [10:03] _StefanS_: certainly shouldn't be [10:03] no harm to move it temporarily though [10:03] _StefanS_: does kde 4 start in xephyr? [10:03] do apps start under kde 3? [10:03] (does kde 3 start?) [10:03] <_StefanS_> kde4 apps works fine under kde3 [10:04] <_StefanS_> I'm trying xephyr now === kblizzzek is now known as blizzzek [10:09] <_StefanS_> Riddell: wow thats odd... [10:09] <_StefanS_> Riddell: works great in xephyr with sounds and what not.. [10:11] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I'm moving .kde just for testing [10:11] <_StefanS_> brb [10:24] <_StefanS_> Riddell: well, moving .kde doesnt make a difference [10:25] <_StefanS_> Riddell: Guess its something related to composite afterall [10:39] <_StefanS_> Riddell: enabling AIGLX again didn't make a difference either. Do you know [10:40] <_StefanS_> Riddell: any packages that may rely on plasma or the other way around? [10:44] _StefanS_: try running /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde from within a full session? [10:44] or starting /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kwin or plasma [10:44] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I'll trye that [10:51] <_StefanS_> Riddell: [ 1340.266578] klauncher[27553]: segfault at 00000095 eip b753dfc7 esp bffee040 error 4 [10:51] <_StefanS_> Riddell: is that bad ? :) [10:52] doesn't sound good [10:52] no idea what would cause it [10:53] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I guess I could try startkde with sh -x to see what happens during the script.. maybe its just a stupid mistake somewhere [11:01] _StefanS_: please install the -dbg packages to get proper output [11:03] <_StefanS_> apache|mobile_: did that now [11:04] <_StefanS_> apache|mobile_: what part of startkde is supposed to loop until the you logout ? [11:04] <_StefanS_> apache|mobile_: by looping I mean when you are inside kde, and once you logout it will shutdown alle kde services properly [11:04] _StefanS_: it won't [11:04] startkde _starts_ kde :P [11:04] kdeinit takes care of logout AFAIK [11:05] <_StefanS_> apache|mobile_: ok, so it detaches itself from startkde ? [11:05] yep [11:06] <_StefanS_> apache|mobile_: how should I see the debugging messages now. ? [11:06] logout [11:06] choose failsafe as session type [11:06] login [11:06] <_StefanS_> did that. [11:06] you should get a konsole [11:06] startkde [11:06] <_StefanS_> yes [11:06] well [11:06] with path [11:06] <_StefanS_> startkde crashes my xsession.. [11:06] oh [11:06] _StefanS_: hardy? [11:06] <_StefanS_> so I put in some sleeps [11:07] <_StefanS_> yes on hardy [11:07] downgrade xorg [11:07] somehow they managed to break the composite crap [11:07] <_StefanS_> apache|mobile_: argh.. [11:07] so when kwin tries to start [11:07] x goes wocka [11:07] <_StefanS_> apache|mobile_: great... [11:07] <_StefanS_> apache|mobile_: any idea how to downgrade it? [11:07] <_StefanS_> apache|mobile_: havent done that before [11:07] *shurg* [11:07] someone was investigating on this the other day [11:08] smarter maybe? [11:08] <_StefanS_> Riddell: xserver is the culprit it seems... ^ [11:08] <_StefanS_> apache|mobile_: well I guess the easiest would be to download the package, and install it manually then ? [11:09] <_StefanS_> apache|mobile_: no wonder my xserver crashes yesterday when I used nvidia-xsettings to query opengl information.. x segfaulted on me. [11:09] _StefanS_: you probabably have the old version in your apt cache [11:09] <_StefanS_> apache|mobile_: well I'm going to check that.. [11:09] <_StefanS_> opengl/composite.. [11:09] <_StefanS_> wrong word :D [11:10] aye [11:10] <_StefanS_> apache|mobile_: xserver-xorg-core? [11:10] apache|mobile_: nop, and I don't have hardy to check [11:11] hm [11:11] * apache|mobile_ checks his logs [11:12] _StefanS_: I probably only have the logs at home :S [11:14] <_StefanS_> apache|mobile_: thats ok.. I downgraded xserver, but seems like it wasn't enought [11:14] <_StefanS_> enough [11:14] apachelogger_: my dead KDE4 was caused by some weird problem that somehow borked the xorg GLX extension.. reinstalled some random packages and everything works again :D [11:14] gribelu: pling [11:15] _StefanS_: technically it can be -core your driver, libdri and libdrm I think [11:16] <_StefanS_> oka [11:16] <_StefanS_> not in my cache... gotta pick it up from the archive.ubuntu.com.. [11:16] apache|mobile_: my kepas package is ready, should I upload it to revu? [11:16] Riddell: *scratches his head*... so I was supposed to merge qyoto into kdebindings-kde4? [11:17] ryanakca: yes [11:17] smarter: did upstream add a gpl yet? [11:17] nop, I'm still not sure about that [11:17] Riddell: ah, well now. [11:17] sorry if that wasn't clear [11:18] Riddell: can you please explain smarter why a full copy of the GPL is to be included in the sources [11:18] Riddell: np, so I guess since qyoto is already in kdebindings-kde4, all I need to do is update the debian/ dir? [11:18] * apache|mobile_ joins a political discussion [11:21] hello young lovers, wherever you are... [11:22] * Riddell looking down upon london from Canonical Tower [11:22] heh [11:23] Riddell: say hello to people from me, "the Overseer" ;-P [11:23] pfft, sure make us jealous :P [11:23] smarter: you can upload to revu, but add a comment, that a full copy of gpl is missing [11:24] apache|mobile_: k. [11:24] " pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: libplasma-dev which is a virtual package." ? [11:24] smarter: gutsy? [11:24] my /etc/pbuilderrc says hardy [11:24] strange [11:24] Riddell: planning world domination? [11:24] sudo pbuilder --login [11:25] cat /etc/apt/sources.list [11:25] oh... didn't know I had a ~/.pbuilderrc... [11:25] ah :D [11:25] stupid me [11:25] <_StefanS_> apache|mobile_: any idea what path on archive.ubuntu.com I should use to get that xserver-xorg-core ? I cant seem to find it anywhere.. === mzungu_ is now known as mzungu [11:26] Riddell: was there some issues in my contact additions? or is it just for later, wondering if I need to edit it [11:26] Hobbsee: no but if you ever need a good place to throw objects at MI5 from, this is about as good as it gets [11:26] morning [11:26] haha [11:26] _StefanS_: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/ ? [11:27] Riddell: do we automatically drop all mail that's not sent by a subscriber or something? [11:27] hmm, this lagging is evil... hope my first "hello" got through [11:27] mhb: it didn't [11:27] <_StefanS_> smarter: I wonder why i couldn't see it... oh well. thanks [11:27] in that case ... hello young lovers, wherever you are... [11:28] * apache|mobile_ loves kdm [11:28] hey ho mhb [11:28] Hobbsee: yes [11:28] Riddell: bugger. [11:29] * Hobbsee tries again [11:29] * apache|mobile_ tries the new kdm package [11:40] apachelogger_: I've updated my pbuilder to hardy but it still doesn't find libplasma-dev :/ [11:41] smarter: got universe enabled? [11:42] is it enabled by default? [11:44] no [11:44] follow !pbuilder. [11:45] !pbuilder [11:45] pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto [11:48] nice! kdm finally works ^^ [11:50] Hobbsee: thanks, it works now :) [11:50] :) === _czessi is now known as Czessi [11:57] hi there [11:57] can someone confirm flash is broken in konqueror hardy ? [11:59] Tonio_: latest version of flash is broken in konqueror gutsy and hardy(but I think there's some patches in hardy), see: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3162 and: http://mikearthur.co.uk/index.php/?p=171 for a workaround [12:00] smarter: I as just searching for a workarroundin fact :) [12:01] Tonio_: you could also use the old version of flash [12:02] smarter: okay got the patch :) [12:02] smarter: I prefer to fix kde, since the latest flash has a lot of security fixes in it [12:03] I prepare a patch and will upload the fix in a moment [12:03] hardy only of course [12:03] we should backport it to gutsy [12:04] yep I agree [12:04] smarter: but I don't play with backports and security fixes [12:05] smarter: I used to in the past, but the process is so stupidly long...... [12:05] smarter: and btw not respected sometimes by canonical employees, so I don't see any reason to waste my time on that point [12:05] but if soembody wants to backport my package, you're welcome ! [12:09] Tonio_: hardy does have the original flash patch [12:09] I don't know if there's an updated version [12:09] let me know if it works [12:11] Riddell: I have the patch here, testing :) [12:11] Riddell: there's olready a patch for gutsy ? [12:12] Tonio_: there's alreay a patch in hardy [12:12] Riddell: ah... [12:13] which package is fixed, kdebase ? [12:13] Riddell: I can't see any upload that sees to fix this... [12:13] for hardy at least [12:15] <_StefanS_> Riddell: what about that videodvd:/ kio fix for k3b in hardy ? did you upload it? [12:15] <_StefanS_> hey Tonio_ btw :) [12:16] hey _StefanS_ [12:16] Tonio_: looks to be kubuntu_9917_flash_xembed.diff [12:17] Riddell: right, well the patch seems to need a few changes [12:18] Riddell: I got them here locally, in the form of a second patch [12:18] Riddell: testing locally [12:18] Riddell: see http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=761919 [12:18] Tonio_: thanks, I havn't really tested it [12:18] those are the needed changes [12:18] _StefanS_: I'm pretty sure it is in [12:18] Riddell: well original patch doesn't work btw [12:19] <_StefanS_> Riddell: ok cool, or groovy even. [12:20] <_StefanS_> Riddell: nawp.. just checked not there :( (/usr/lib/kde3/kio_videodvd.la|so) [12:22] _StefanS_: have a diff I should upload then ? [12:22] _StefanS_: from changelog: [ Stefan Skotte ]o * kio_videodvd wasn't installed correctly [12:23] Riddell: kdebase building locally [12:23] but I don't see it in any of k3b's .install files [12:23] Riddell: want me to fix the packaging ? [12:23] Riddell: I can do while kdebase builds [12:24] <_StefanS_> thats odd.. [12:24] _StefanS_: well just need to run dh_install --list-missing [12:24] _StefanS_: and then fix the .install files, I guess [12:25] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I sent you the patch, can you see whats wrong? [12:25] lemme look [12:26] _StefanS_: hum, second half of the package just isn't there ;) [12:27] Riddell: since you added the package, looks like you just missed that part ;) [12:27] _StefanS_: uploading [12:27] <_StefanS_> oh :) [12:27] <_StefanS_> cool thanks! [12:28] <_StefanS_> videodvd:/ kio slave is quite amazing ;) [12:28] <_StefanS_> seamless integration with libdvdcss.. [12:29] _StefanS_: upoloaded [12:29] <_StefanS_> :) [12:31] kepas uploaded to revu ;) http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kepas (I'm currently uploading a new version) [12:44] Good news everyone! [12:44] I can attend the meeting [12:44] woohooo [12:44] <_StefanS_> apachelogger_: hey congrats ! :) === \sh_away is now known as \sh [12:45] _StefanS_: hehe, thaks [12:45] +n somewhere [12:45] apachelogger_: when is the meeting exactly ? [12:45] and hello btw ! [12:45] hey Tonio_, see topic [12:46] * apachelogger_ heads over to kdm's websvn [12:46] apachelogger_: thanks :) [12:49]