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jared[10:10] <tinin> jared you could install them with this comand sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre00:00
jaredI did that00:00
jaredand it said it worked00:00
Jucatoif you did that, then it should be installed.00:00
jaredbut it isn't...00:00
Jucatodid you get to the part that you need to accept some license?00:01
jaredno00:01
ardchoilleJucato: Would apt-cache policy have diff output than dpkg -l?00:01
jaredI just did it again, and it said the following packages have been kept back:00:01
jaredthen had a whole list of packages00:01
jaredthen it had:00:02
jared0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 46 not upgraded00:02
Jucatoif you didn't reach the license agreement, then it wasn't installed properly00:02
jaredI kno00:02
jaredI just saw it said it didnt install00:02
Jucatoardchoille: dpkg -l lists all installed packages. apt-cache policy is for a different purpose, like to see which versions are available and from which repos00:03
ardchoilleJucato: Ah, ok00:03
tininjared you should read how to install apps, search for those packages in synaptic or adept and reinstall them00:03
Jucatoanyway, I'm gone too... try to install java and then it should work00:03
jaredhow do I install?00:04
tininjared read that in the guide00:04
tinindon't make people type everything, there are lots of documentation out there ;P00:04
tininjared http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Updates_and_Upgrades_and_Installing_Software00:05
jaredergh, this is waaay to much work and I don't know what any of it means in the guides00:05
yasahiroi still have no idea how to get the background back where its supposed to be...00:05
tinin<jared> just use adept or synaptic to install the apps you want00:06
jaredi tried synaptic, didnt do anything00:07
tininthy are two easy programs, maybe adept is easier00:07
yasahiroi believe adept is easier..00:07
jaredI read in a guide to do this System-->Administration-->Software Sources-->Third-party software-->Add00:07
jaredhow do I do that in kubuntu?00:07
Dr_willis_I find synaptic works better for me then adept00:07
Dr_willis_Thats adding the 3rd party repositories. I normally just edit the  /etc/apt/sources.list file manually00:08
matt_____ScorpKing: super long story..but can i totally disable internet (not networking) on this box?00:08
matt_____or disable dhcp or soemthign on this thing?00:08
matt_____but still use networking and the whole server thing?00:09
ScorpKingmatt____: yes. remember dns... and gateway... you've added? put # in front of them00:09
tininDr_willis_  is right00:09
Dr_willis_jared,  many of the docs out are very ubuntu specific.   Try the add/remove programs icon in the menus. it used to have a check box to enable the other repos.00:09
matt_____ScorpKing: ok, then restart the network?00:09
matt_____/etc/init.d?00:09
jaredk00:09
ScorpKingmatt____: yes. /etc/init.d/networking restart00:09
matt_____i didn't add a dns ScorpKing00:10
jaredI might just install windows, Java works easily on that00:10
NickPrestajared, if you so wish.00:10
jaredit works easily on Ubuntu too, but that is way to slow on this computer00:10
jaredthats y i wanted kubuntu00:10
tininjared don't be afraid to do this manually, it is just a text file, it is the only thig "complicated" I ever learnt about linux00:10
yasahirojava worked uber easy on my install of kubuntu...00:10
ScorpKingmatt____: ok then. just comment gateway out00:10
matt_____laters00:10
jaredyasahiro, how did u do it?00:11
jaredI found that with Ubuntu, it didnt work but then I reinstalled and it did00:11
yasahiroi guess it just kinda... came with mine... i never installed it actually00:12
jaredhmm00:12
bahmanHi everybody00:13
jaredhi00:13
bahmanHow could I speedup my kubuntu booting?! And also do I need a difagrimenting program?!00:13
tininIt just works, maybe installing it frop a graphical package installer like adept or synaptic lets you accept the  license and then it will work jared00:13
jaredomg, found it00:13
bahmanjared hi00:13
Dr_willis_You dont defrag linux filesystems normally.00:13
jaredthere were these things I had to tick in ubuntu00:14
jaredand I just found them =d00:14
jared*=D00:14
Dr_willis_as for speedup. you could disable unneeded services.. but i doubt if you will gain much speed00:14
yasahiroi wanna disable kwebdesktop..00:14
tinin:( next time RTFM first jared00:14
yasahiroits seriously annoying me :(00:14
jaredRTFM?00:14
tininseek that on google00:14
NickPrestajared, it means to read the manual.00:15
Dr_willis_I belive the check box for kwebdesktop was on  under the wallpaper settings on kde?  Not in kde at the moment..00:15
yasahiroit is00:15
yasahirohowever00:15
Dr_willis_theres a area/settings to enable programs on the desktop. :) i used to use xearth all the time00:15
yasahiroi disabled it... but its still making the wallpaper... i cant get my anime images as wallpapers again :(00:15
tininjared we try to be kind anyway ;)00:15
jaredergh, still not working00:16
Dr_willis_yasahiro,  you try logging out/backin after disabling it? Ive not toyed with it in ages.00:16
yasahiroyeah... i did try logging out and back in...00:16
jared:'(00:16
jaredthis isnt working00:16
NickPresta!doesn't work | jared00:16
ubotujared: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.00:16
yasahiroif i create multiple desktops, however, those work... but the first one keeps using kwebdesktop..00:17
tinin<jared> but exactly what are you trying to load?00:17
jareda java game called runescape00:17
tininis it winblows specific then?00:17
jaredi can use it on ubuntu00:17
jaredjust not kubuntu00:17
Dr_willis_it shouldent matter  as to what desktop you are using.00:18
tininif it works in *ubuntu it works in *ubuntu00:18
tinin<jared> use firefox00:18
Dr_willis_give more info as to what its not doing properly perhaps.00:18
tininor learn how to use java in linux00:18
jaredi'll install firefox then00:18
jaredwell I worked it out in Ubuntu00:18
Dr_willis_its a game that runs in a browser? or a stand alone java program?00:19
jaredbut kubuntu seems so much different00:19
jaredruns ina  browser00:19
tininso much easier00:19
Dr_willis_Linux is all about layers and legos. :)00:19
Dr_willis_You proberly want to run it inside firefox then00:19
jaredk, i'll install FF00:19
tinin<jared> I run my java apps directly00:19
Dr_willis_I like Puzzlepirates :P00:19
tinineven you could launch them with a comand00:19
jaredtinin, how?00:20
tininwell00:20
tininI'm lazy to search00:20
tinintry with ff00:20
tininfirefox00:20
jaredkk00:21
jaredI used FF to get it working on ubuntu00:21
yasahiro_:(00:22
CruCiosup guys00:22
CruCiohey00:22
CruCioguys00:22
CruCiotell me about kubuntu00:22
CruCiois it an operating system ?00:22
ardchoille!kubuntu | CruCio00:23
ubotuCruCio: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE00:23
CruCioor its just a sofware that requires an operating syste, ?00:23
CruCiochoille00:23
tininhttp://www.runescape.com ? you're freak00:23
CruCioits the same as the ubuntu right ?00:23
ScorpKingnite guys00:23
tinin<CruCio> try both00:24
CruCioam currently using ubuntu on my ps300:24
tininnice00:24
CruCiobut am unable to install Java00:24
tininwell00:24
CruCiothough its possible00:24
CruCioam going to go with the kubuntu00:25
tininI guess it is not like an standard pc00:25
tinin<CruCio> you won't get any difference00:25
CruCioactually00:25
CruCio i would00:25
CruCiosince00:25
CruCiowhen ur installing java00:26
CruCiomerminal00:26
CruCiorequires00:26
tininps3 has little ram isn't it slow to use as a pc?00:26
CruCiothe cd00:26
posingaspopular!enter00:26
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!00:26
Dr_willis_ps3 linux - is VERY much a work in progress00:26
CruCiogutsy gibbon power+pciso00:26
CruCioto install00:26
CruCiowhich cannot be found any where(i checked)00:26
CruCiobut for the kubunto00:26
CruCioit exists00:26
CruCiook00:27
tininCruCio: maybe you need java for power pc00:27
Dr_willis_CruCio,  we can read more then 4 words on a single line.. theres no need to chop it all up.00:27
Dr_willis_and I just saw a 'how to install java on the ps3 linux' howto at the psubuntu web site00:27
tininhe may be writting with the wiimote00:27
Dr_willis_tinin,  tats not a ps3 :)00:27
tininreally? XD00:27
Dr_willis_http://psubuntu.com/2007/02/13/howto-enable-java-for-firefox/00:28
tinin<CruCio> ps3 has little ram, isn't it slow to use as a pc?00:28
CruCiono00:28
CruCionot at all00:28
geniinah00:28
CruCioits fast00:28
Dr_willis_and --> http://psubuntu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=157100:28
CruCioand easy00:28
Dr_willis_how to set up flash and java on the ps3 linux00:29
yasahiro_:( my wallpaper still isnt working..00:29
xen_Hey how do i get the ATi driver to work in Kubuntu? i enabled the restricted driver but everything is extrememly choppy/slow00:29
geniitinin: I have 7.04 Kubuntu running on a P2 with 128Mb ram and 4Gb hd00:29
CruCiothats the only problem the ps3 ubuntu has00:29
xen_i cant even use firefox/konqurer because of the choppyness00:29
CruCioinstalling00:29
tininCruCio I heard the best desktop to use in ps is e1700:29
CruCiojava and flash00:29
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tinincheck it out00:29
CruCioe17 ?00:29
CruCiowhat is that ?00:29
tininjust a very lighweight desktop00:30
Dr_willis_i find e17 to be a bit over hyped L:) same as its been hyped for the last 5+ years...00:30
geniinvm, ps3 <> p3    (I could use another mug of coffee apparently)00:30
Dr_willis_it used to be the 'heavyweight' desktop years ago.. now everything else has grown and its now lightweight. heh heh00:30
mrdigitalanyone here like linuxmce?00:31
yasahiro_i just wanna remove kwebdesktop... or at least disable it... *sigh*00:32
yasahiro_ive tried restarting, logging out, ive tried disabling it before doing so...00:32
Dr_willis_yasahiro,  guess ya could look in the .kde direcory for the proper config files and remove them.00:32
CruCiokubuntu server is slow00:32
Dr_willis_but i got NO idea what config file it is.00:32
Dr_willis_I guess i could reboot to Kubuntu and look.. :)00:33
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CruCioWillis ??00:33
Dr_willis_CruCio, ?????????????????????//00:33
geniiNormally something like .kde/share/config/whaternamerc00:33
CruCiokubunto,ubuntu any diff ?00:33
Dr_willis_!kubuntuy00:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntuy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:33
Dr_willis_!kubuntu00:33
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE00:33
tininCruCio are 3d supported in *ubuntu00:33
tinin?00:33
Dr_willis_brb00:33
CruCiotinin ??00:34
tinin3d00:34
tininlike 3d games or google earth?00:34
CruCioi think u should ask willis00:34
CruCioyea00:34
tininI'm curious00:35
CruCioyes00:35
Jucatoyasahiro_: in Configure Desktop, try to use "No Picture", click Apply, see if it changes to a blank color, then select Picture again00:35
CruCioubuntu runs warcraft 300:35
tininCruCio the new kde4 would rock with 3d on a ps300:35
yasahiro_no change...00:35
yasahiro_still the web page...00:35
CruCiokde4 ?00:36
biovoreIsn't PS3 3d all software rendered with linux (sony locked the 3d stuff)00:36
CruCiowell actually00:36
Jucatoyasahiro_: weird... everything works fine here... but when you selected None, you were able to get a blank desktop?00:36
CruCiomy ubuntu supports warcraft 300:36
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tininCruCio just look at some youtube videos to see how it is00:36
tininCruCio: also take a look at these links00:37
tininhttp://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=233900:37
yasahiro_no... when i selected none, it stayed with the web page..00:37
tininhttp://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=233900:37
Jucatoyasahiro_: ok something terribly wrong there...00:37
tininCruCio: its a PS3 homebrew project called MegaBox00:38
CruCionice00:38
CruCionice00:38
illriginalanyone know the script to combine movie clips00:38
yasahiro_im beginning to regret trying kwebdesktop...00:39
CruCioi hope we see alot of changes on ubuntu 8.0400:39
yasahiro_ive had linux since summer last year.... im not really too much of a newbie... but there are of course lots of places i still get stuck00:39
Dr_willis_yasahiro_,  lett see - i have it enavbled now...00:40
Jucatoyasahiro_: ok... last try... open up ~/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc in a test editor00:40
Dr_willis_and i just uncheck the boxc and hit apply and it disables it.00:40
Jucatosame here...00:41
Jucatoyasahiro_: look for the part "BackgroundMode=" and see what it is set to00:41
yasahiro_well, its opened00:41
Dr_willis_yasahiro_,  you are saying that the wallpaper does not change back to a solid color?  You still see the web desktop eh?00:41
yasahiro_right..00:42
Jucato[08:42] <Jucato> yasahiro_: look for the part "BackgroundMode=" and see what it is set to00:42
CruCioWillis ?00:42
yasahiro_BackgroundMode=Program00:42
CruCiowhat os ur architecture ?00:42
Jucatoyasahiro_: that's the problem... change "Program" to "Flat"00:42
Dr_willis_I have several machines running various 32bit linux disrtos.00:42
Jucato"that might be the problem"00:43
yasahiro_yay!00:43
yasahiro_it went to a solid colour00:43
Jucatonow try to change wallpapers00:43
yasahiro_still solid colour... didnt change to the image00:44
Dr_willis_You need to check the 'use image '  i think00:44
Jucatowow, you have one funky config there :/00:44
Dr_willis_Cool.. thers a slideshow feature. :) Never seen that befor00:45
Jucatolol00:45
Jucato:)00:45
Jucatoone of those desktop config stuff that GNOME doesn't have built-in00:45
Jucato(along with being able to use different wallpapers per desktop)00:45
Jucatoyasahiro_: just out of curioisity, can you run this command in Konsole? ls -l ~/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc00:46
yasahiro_-rw------- 1 yasahiro yasahiro 11992 2008-01-21 17:47 /home/yasahiro/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc00:47
Jucatohm.. looks ok...00:48
posingaspopularJucato: well in kde4 that doesn't work...00:48
Jucatoposingaspopular: he's on kde300:48
Jucatootherwise kwebdesktop wouldn't have even been a possible option00:48
posingaspopularah i see.00:48
rc-1Hi, my printer isnt listed in the drivers for lexmerk, am i SOL?00:48
yasahiro_...00:49
yasahiro_umm00:49
yasahiro_background colour isnt even changing..00:49
barbara_I am trying to mount a samba shared printer with a windows xp machine using net use lpt1 \\10.0.0.1\HP and it asks for a password. this is fine because I can enter my samba username and password and it connects however it doesn't work for the /persistant command to automatically mount it upon startup. can someone give me a hand?00:49
yasahiro_even when its set to no picture00:49
ardchoillerc-1: Have you seen this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport00:50
Jucatoyasahiro_: somehow I'm having the feeling that your changes aren't getting written to the config file...00:50
rc-1no thx00:50
ubuntusorry for not using pastebin..but on a livecd using weird stuff trying to fix my broken system. but could someone tell me if there is anything wrong/odd in my fstab.00:52
ubuntu# /etc/fstab: static file system information.00:52
ubuntu#00:52
ubuntu# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>00:52
ubuntuproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       000:52
ubuntu# /dev/sda100:52
ubuntuUUID=9abf1fca-ddea-464b-a4cf-7b843969650a /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       100:52
ubuntu# /dev/sda500:52
yasahiro_http://pastebin.com/d22d6b02800:52
ubuntuUUID=9b85f993-5be1-4a79-9e2b-c596114fedcf none            swap    sw              0       000:52
ubuntu/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       000:52
ubuntu192.168.1.250:/home/matt/Data /media/Server/ nfs rw,hard,intr 0 000:52
Jaredback00:53
Jaredim gonna try ff now00:53
ubuntuok..pastebin...can someone tell me if there is anything wrong with my fstab?00:53
ubuntuok..pastebin...can someone tell me if there is anything wrong with my fstab? http://pastebin.com/m5819893e00:53
Dr_willis_care to give us a CLUE as to the actual problem ubuntu ?00:54
tininbarbara_ there are lots of graphical configurators for samba, maybe that's something easier00:54
Jaredok, im still having problems with Java even with Firefox00:54
Dr_willis_ubuntu,  you having nfs share problems?00:55
JaredI know what the problem is, but I don't know how to fix it00:55
Dr_willis_Jared,  whats the url to that game?00:55
ubuntuDr_willis_: ok...i tried to boot my system, and it wouldn't boot. it mentioned something about trying to load an image, but it not being there. like...from the swap, i think. i tried to start kdm and gdm,00:55
Jaredwww.runescape.com00:55
ubuntuDr_willis_: actually, i just setup that, but i removed the entry and tried to boo, and it wouldn't work.00:55
Dr_willis_ubuntu,   - the os looks for a 'resume image' if it dont find one it goes and does a normal boot.00:55
yasahiro_Jucato: the change are being saved to the file..00:55
yasahiro_changes*00:55
Jucatohm... then why wouldn't it work? :(00:56
ubuntuDr_willis_: exactly, it said "normal boot", but then stood at a terminal login.00:56
yasahiro_http://pastebin.com/d22d6b02800:56
yasahiro_thats the file there....00:56
tininbarbara http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Smb4K?content=981400:56
Dr_willis_ubuntu,  you  mean it went to the console login, not the X login?00:56
* Jucato checks00:56
ubuntuDr_willis_: yes....but sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start wouldn't work.00:56
ubuntuneither would gdm start00:56
tininbarbara_: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/smblansearch?content=4198600:56
Jucatoyasahiro_: I notice you have set it to use different wallpapers for different desktops? are you sure you're applying/looking at the correct desktop?00:57
Dr_willis_ubuntu,  which is saying that perhaps that X is missconfigured. or your video drivers are wrong. has it ever worked on this machine?00:57
ubuntuDr_willis_: i just finished setting up a nfs server, it worked fine, but when i went to reboot the client, tada! but..i removed the entry of nfs in fstab, but still wouldn't boot.00:57
yasahiro_right now, i have it back down to one00:57
ubuntuDr_willis_: oh yeah, it was working fine, untill i rebooted.00:57
Dr_willis_ubuntu,  the nfs stuff dosent have anything to do with X.00:58
ubuntuDr_willis_: think an nvidia xorg config would help? shall i post xorg?00:58
Dr_willis_ubuntu,  try the command 'startx'00:58
yasahiro_i set it back down to one before i copied that text00:58
Dr_willis_Jared,  - that game is working here fine.00:58
ubuntuwell...i could do that..but i'll have to leave the live cd and try to boot....00:58
Jucatoyasahiro_: can you pastebin the updated file again please?00:58
Dr_willis_Jared,  You may not have the proper java installed/setup ? try 'java -version' in the terminal.00:58
ubuntuDr_willis_: it also seemed to not wanna lettme use net after logging into console00:58
ubuntui tried getting irssi from there, but it couldn't access.00:59
Dr_willis_ubuntu,  sounds like you got a lot of other issues going on.00:59
yasahiro_http://pastebin.com/d29d55f5000:59
ubuntuDr_willis_: but i'm on the machine right now in live, so i dunno. i messed around a lot with trying to get network shares to work, and then finaly someone walked me through nfs.01:00
Jucatoyasahiro_: do you have multiple screens/monitors?01:01
ubuntuDr_willis_: so i'm about to try and boot, startx and anything else advisable? how about this: i've not booted in a long time...is it possible that the kernel or whatever has been updated...so i need to recompile the official nvidia drivers?01:01
yasahiro_i did try a tv here, but it gave me a headache, so it was only plugged in for around 15 - 20 minutes01:01
Jucatowhen was this?01:02
yasahiro_however, i did have multiple virtual desktops (4) until this happened, then i moved it down to one01:02
yasahiro_that was lastnight01:02
Jucatohm... ok this is going to be sort of drastic. this will reset your desktop settings, but you'll have a backup just in case.01:03
Jucato"cd ~/.kde/share/config" then "mv kdesktoprc kdesktoprc.backup"01:03
wesleyto wich path should i install flash?01:03
yasahiro_okay01:04
yasahiro_did that01:04
Dr_willis_Well as ubuntu left he just SHOWED us what his problem is...01:04
geniiwesley: Do you mean where should you download it to?01:04
Dr_willis_Hes not using the nvidia drivers from the repos. thus the kernel update needs the nvidia drivers installed..01:04
Jucatoyasahiro_: logout, and log back in01:04
wesleyno where to install it i am install it using the file from adobe01:04
yasahirookay01:05
geniiwesley: On my box flash plugin appears in dir /usr/lib01:05
yasahirodone that now01:06
geniiwesley: And /usr/lib/firefox/plugins01:06
Dr_willis_I just cheat and found a .deb for flash that does work :) the bot has a  link to the thread in the 2nd flash factoid01:06
yasahiroand what i first noticed, is that a background is actually there01:07
geniiDr_willis_: Heh, nice01:07
Jucatoyasahiro: so fixed?01:07
yasahiroYAY!!!01:07
biovoreAnyone know if ubuntu repos will have this new flash version in it anytime soon?   I see people have made .debs but non are offical ubuntu debs..01:07
yasahiromy chihiro and matsuri wallpaper ^^ lol :P thank you so much ^^01:08
* Jucato wonders from which anime01:08
yasahirohani hani operation sanctuary01:08
yasahiroits a good anime01:08
yasahirowhich reminds me01:09
yasahiroi must be getting back to it01:10
yasahirosince i have to finish that one, and then uta-kata, and then binchou-tan, and i also have anime after those that i never got around to watching01:10
Jucatooh... another shoujo thing... ok well have fun :)01:11
yasahirolol01:11
yasahiroi like the nice fluffy ones :P01:11
yasahironever did get into the mecha ones like gundam... or things like inuyasha or dragonball gt...01:11
Jucatoheh anyway... that's a bit offtopic now :P01:12
yasahirooh well, wrong convo to be talking about things like that... later! and thanks again, dr willis, and jucato, for helping me ^^01:12
Dr_willis_I watched all of the Inuyasha... :) egads that took forever.01:12
Dr_willis_Then it dident actually END. !01:12
geniiJucato: Gotta love it when ppl know how to pick up a hint LOL01:12
yasahiroof course it didnt :P01:12
yasahirolol01:12
yasahirowow01:12
yasahirothis suddenly turned into an anime chat01:13
yasahirolol01:13
yasahiroill go and let it go back to kubuntu help... see ya ^^01:13
blizzzekgn801:13
raghu_wanted to know how to install ncurses and ncurses-devel package on kubuntu 7.10. how can u do that?01:14
Dr_willis_fire up the package manager, search for ncurses install the opackage01:14
Dr_willis_!find ncurses01:14
ubotuFound: lib64ncurses5, lib64ncurses5-dev, libncurses5, libncurses5-dbg, libncurses5-dev (and 16 others)01:14
Dr_willis_ libncurses5-dev  seems to be the package name01:15
Dr_willis_you proberly want to install some other developer tools as well. like build-essentials - if you havent allready01:15
raghu_i installed build-essentials01:16
raghu_my package manager is not able to find any matches for libncurses or anything similar01:16
raghu_i am using adept installer01:17
Dr_willis_sudo apt-get install  libncurses5-dev  libncurses501:17
g2g591Taghu_: adept_manager is the adept family package manager with the details01:18
raghu_libncurses5 is installed01:19
raghu_E: Couldn't find package libncurses5-dev01:19
Dr_willis_do an apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade01:20
Dr_willis_then try agian i guess..01:20
CruCiokubuntu and ubuntu no significant diff right ?01:20
Dr_willis_One has kde, other has gnome01:20
biovoreyup.01:20
Jaredhow do I register?01:20
Dr_willis_You can install gnome onkubuntu, or kde on ubuntu.. so it dont matter much01:20
CruCiogood01:20
CruCiogood01:20
CruCiowillis , they all uses the sudo right ?01:21
biovoreyup01:21
Dr_willis_sudo is a common linux feature.01:21
CruCiook01:21
g2g591CruCio: Kubuntu is slightly behind with plug and play printers and a few other things, but they will catch up next release01:21
CruCioam going to delete the ubuntu and install kubuntu01:21
raghu_still it cannot find the package01:21
Jaredhow do I register?01:21
g2g591CruCio: don't bother, just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:22
geniiCruCio: When running graphical apps the gui sudo commands differ however01:22
g2g591Jared /msg nickserv register password01:22
geniikdesu gksu   et al01:22
CruCiohmm01:22
Dr_willis_kde4 has kdesudo :)01:22
CruCioso it will delete the ubuntu01:22
JucatoDr_willis_: other way around01:22
CruCioand install the kubuntu instead ?01:22
geniiDr_willis_: Nice01:22
Dr_willis_CruCio,  theres no need to DELETE anything01:22
biovoreCruCio: the differeance is a package..01:23
geniiDr_willis_: kdesudo seemed broken before01:23
g2g591CruCio: no, that apt will install them both, they live quite peacefully together01:23
Dr_willis_You can have Ubuntu and kubuntu both installed at the same time.01:23
biovoreCruCio: you can run both kde and gnome and xfce at the same time.. just install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop etc01:23
geniiYou can even run applications from one while inside the other01:23
Jucatogenii: I don't think kdesudo has been ported to kde4 yet... and kdesudo is being actively maintained/fixed01:23
geniiJucato: You mean kdesu not ported to kde4 yet? I'm confused a bit now01:24
CruCiowhy run them both when them both are the same ?01:24
Dr_willis_theres a kdesudo command in kde4 i thouhg.  I thought it was a   script/wrorkaround however.01:24
geniiCruCio: They are not the same01:24
Dr_willis_you can run gnome apps under kde, and kde apps under gnome - it dosent matter.01:24
CruCiothanks willis01:25
raghu_Dr_willis_: still apt-get complains E: Couldn't find package libncurses5-dev01:25
geniiCruCio: The stuff underneath which happens at command line remains reasonably the same throughout all *buntu but gnome and kde are very different animals01:25
Dr_willis_raghu_,  your sources.list file may need to be corrected.01:25
Dr_willis_!easysource01:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easysource - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:25
Dr_willis_Hmm.. what is that url.01:25
Jucatogenii: kdesudo is a (so far Kubuntu-only) utility that uses sudo by default and behaves exactly like sudo. kdesu is a KDE utility that (recently) can either use su or sudo as backends (in Kubuntu it uses sudo). kdesu exists in KDE 4. but kdesudo doesn't01:26
Dr_willis_!source01:26
CruCiokubuntu comes with the kde right ?01:26
geniiJucato: Ah, OK. Dr_willis confoozled me then earlier01:26
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html01:26
Dr_willis_K = Kde in K ubuntu01:26
CruCioWillis how do i download gnome01:26
CruCioin ubuntu01:26
CruCiosudo apt-get gnome ?01:26
CruCioinstall*01:26
JucatoUbuntu uses GNOME01:26
Dr_willis_install gnome-desktop like the guy said earlier.01:27
Dr_willis_Oh wait its 'ubuntu-desktop' :)01:27
geniiCruCio: ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop are larger packages which each include the neccesary window managers in the list of packages they install01:27
CruCiook then01:27
CruCio i shall install01:27
JucatoUbuntu = GNOME; Kubuntu = KDE; Xubuntu = Xfce. those are just the defaults. you can mix and match to your heart's content01:27
CruCiokubuntu anddownload ubuntu-desktop on it01:27
geniiCruCio: You just need: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:28
CruCiodude, if am installing kubuntu and deleting ubuntu01:28
CruCioits for a reason01:28
geniiCruCio: Then at login prompt choose KDE for Session Type01:28
Dr_willis_theres no need to 'delete' ubuntu01:28
CruCioits because i don't have the original CD rom01:28
CruCioi lost it01:28
CruCiowhen i try installing java terminal asks for the original os rom01:29
CruCioOS CD01:29
CruCiowhich i don't have01:29
sstchurI'm trying to find a .iso download of Kubuntu that has KDE4?  I tried hardy-alternate-i386.iso from kubuntu.org website, but it installed with 3.5, and I didn't see KDE4 as an option in the login screen or anything.  What am I doing wrong?01:29
Dr_willis_CruCio,  that has nothing to do with it. :) you can easially fix that.01:29
Jucatogo for it Dr_willis_!01:29
Dr_willis_remove the cdrom from the sources listing .01:29
CruCioWillis , don't forget am using a ps301:29
Jucato(next time, it would help if you told what the real problem is :D)01:29
biovore!ps301:30
Jucatoit doesn't matter where you're using it :)01:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:30
Jucatobiovore: PlayStation 301:30
Dr_willis_CruCio,  i have pasted some urls on installung java on the  ps3. from the psubuntu web site. Yave you read those?01:30
basyHi, I have problem: after 5 min my screensaver strarts with no problem, but after another 5 minutes monitor turns off, what is supposed for that?01:30
geniiCruCio: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list   then insert a # before the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list             then ctrl-x to exit, choose Y to save change, Enter/Return to choose same name to save under01:30
Dr_willis_http://psubuntu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1571 Installing java on the ps3.01:31
TheWhiteRookdoes anyone know how to get juK working in KDE4?01:32
Tm_Thow it doesn't work?01:32
TheWhiteRookit tells me that it can't find the right "demultiplexer" plugin01:32
Jucatoinstall it?01:32
Tm_Tas in, what exactly you are asking01:32
JaredJava still won't install, any1 know how I can get it to install?01:33
TheWhiteRookwhen I try to play a song, it either does nothing, skips to the next song, or tells me it can't find the right "demultiplexer" plugin01:33
tininJared are you still asking the same?01:34
Dr_willis_Jared,  have you read the ps3 wiki pages on java ? ===>  2.Follow the guide on http://psubuntu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=701:34
Jaredim not installing it on ps301:34
* genii ponders the demultiplexer 01:34
Jaredand yes tinin, it is still the same01:34
tininok01:34
g2g591Jared: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin ?01:34
Jaredwill try01:34
CruCiothat didn't work01:34
tininthat's been done01:35
Dr_willis_i always install the  kubuntu-restricted-extras package to get java01:35
CruCioohh01:35
tininmaybe it installs version 501:35
CruCioyea i tried that extras packages01:35
JaredE: Couldn't find package sun-java6-plugin01:35
CruCioit asked me for my CD OS01:35
tininsun-java5-plugin01:35
CruCioit stoped installing at 99%01:35
Jareddidnt work01:35
Dr_willis_you need to remove the cdrom from the /etc/apt/sources.list file, then rerun 'sudo apt-get update'01:35
g2g591CruCio: just put a # infront of your cd rom entry in the file the Dr mentioned01:36
CruCiohow do i do that ?01:36
sime_can i install windows xp onto kubuntu01:36
geniiCruCio: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list   then insert a # before the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list             then ctrl-x to exit, choose Y to save change, Enter/Return to choose same name to save under01:36
Dr_willis_You can install XP inside vmware, or virtual box.01:36
sime_Dr_willis_: wat does that mean01:36
tinin<sime_> try virtualbox, it's very easy to install01:37
CruCiohmm01:37
JaredE: Couldn't find package sun-java6-plugin01:37
Dr_willis_You install vmware, or virtual box.. then install  the OS inside them01:37
Dr_willis_!vmware01:37
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers01:37
Dr_willis_!virtualbox01:37
ubotuvirtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox01:37
Dr_willis_isent the proper java version up to 6 now?01:37
Dr_willis_!java01:37
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.01:37
sime_Dr_willis_: is virtual box free01:37
biovoreI think it is01:37
Dr_willis_read what the bot just said...01:38
JaredE: Couldn't find package sun-java6-plugin01:38
CruCiogenii01:38
Dr_willis_!find sun-java6-plugin01:38
ubotuFound: sun-java6-plugin01:38
CruCiofow how long do you plan stayin in here ??01:38
geniiCruCio: Yes?01:38
Dr_willis_!info sun-java6-plugin01:38
ubotusun-java6-plugin (source: sun-java6): The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-03-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 80 kB01:38
CruCioi will be back later ok ?01:38
tininsime_ it's free, look in their webpage for further info01:38
CruCioso u can repeat what u said01:38
Dr_willis_ Jared  you may need to enable the multiverse repository01:38
geniiCruCio: At least another hour or so01:38
biovorehe have universe enabled?01:38
CruCioi'd have to log on my ubuntu01:38
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Jareddr_willis  how do i enable the multiverse repository01:38
Dr_willis_!multiverse01:39
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:39
Jaredhmph k01:39
Dr_willis_adept proberly has some check box's to do it also.01:39
tinin<Jared> you still need to learn about managing repositories, it's easy01:40
Dr_willis_or run that 'add/remove programs' icon  - it has a manage repositories thing also01:40
mefisto__is the screen resolution keyboard shortcut (ctrl-alt- +/-) no longer working in gutsy?01:40
Jareddr_willis_ I enabled all the repositories in the add/remove01:40
Dr_willis_K -> add/remove programs -> Edit software sources01:40
Dr_willis_Jared,   refresh the sources list then.01:41
tininit will be that i guess XD01:41
Jaredk01:42
Dr_willis_I normally install the ubuntu-restricted-extras and kubuntu-restricted-extras01:42
Dr_willis_that grabs java and mp3 stuff and other things01:42
CruCiohopefully kubuntu would work good for me01:42
geniimefisto__: Works on mine. Are you using the numberpad + and - ?01:43
Jaredhow do I install the restricted extras?01:43
palomohola01:43
palomoalguien habla español??01:43
Jaredi think ive done sumthing... and i think/ hope its good01:43
genii!es01:43
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.01:44
israelsip yo01:44
Dr_willis_sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras01:44
Dr_willis_is how i do it. :)01:44
Jaredkk01:44
Dr_willis_I dont use the adept tool much01:44
Jaredwill try in a second01:44
melanieok so i'm having an issue with amarok01:44
Jaredjoin #amarok for help mel D01:44
* CruCio shakes Willis's hands01:44
melanieit won't create a lockfile...01:44
melaniei'm in amarok01:44
melanie#amarok rather01:45
TheWhiteRookI'm irritated cuz amarok would break things if it installed01:46
melanieand no one had any ideas01:46
TheWhiteRookin KDE401:46
melanieso i thought someone here would have an idea01:46
melanieTheWhiteRook: kde4 isn't really 'ready' to be a desktop WM anyways01:46
Dr_willis_try making a new user and see if it works for them.01:47
melanieyou mean a new user for ubuntu?01:47
Dr_willis_yes.. not sure any other way to  make a new user.. :P01:47
TheWhiteRookmelanie: I know. And it's slightly irritating01:47
melanieDr_willis_: that's not a solution.01:47
Dr_willis_melanie,  its a TEST to see01:47
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Dr_willis_if it works for a new user. but not the old.. then its some settin thats messed up01:48
limachey, whenever I am tring to exit dolphin there is this error message saying: Unable to save bookmarks in /home/limac/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive.01:48
Dr_willis_if its affecting all users.. then theres some deeper bug going on.01:48
limachow to fix that01:48
limac?01:48
melanieDr_willis_: can't i just run amarok as root?01:49
Dr_willis_melanie,  you could try... not sure what that would prove.  :)01:49
melaniewell i really don't want to create another user01:49
limacanyone?01:49
Dr_willis_since root can write anywhere. that wont show if its the users home dir that has a permission issue or not.01:50
tininmelanie kde4 works great as a wm right now ;P01:50
tininsome bugs01:50
melanietinin: i didn't say it doesn't work... it's just not ready to be a desktop WM... like for everyday use for everyone01:50
Dr_willis_limac,  i would say check the permissions on the files/dirs in  the  /home/limac/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml path01:50
melanieDr_willis_: well if it's a permissions issue, shouldn't a chmod 777 or chown <myuser> take care of it?01:50
limacalright thx Dr_willis01:50
Dr_willis_melanie,  thats rather... drastick01:50
* CruCio Pats melanie01:50
melaniedon't pat me01:51
geniilimac: sudo chown limac /home/limac/.kde/apps/d3lphin/*01:51
Dr_willis_sort of like killing a fly with a shotgun, and not looking for the actual problem. Do what you want.01:51
limacgenii: thx01:51
tininmelanie well, I tried the 4.0, and I'm still using it, it is very nice and works very well yet01:51
melanieDr_willis_: well i think creating another user just to test ipod working is an even worse soltuion01:51
melanieif it's a permissions issue, that should be taken care of01:51
limacgenii: it says no such file or directory01:52
Dr_willis_melanie,  its a 10 sec test.   to prove its not a system problem. but a user problem.01:52
melanieok i'll try it01:52
geniilimac: Also refrain from doing things like: sudo d3lphin in future01:52
melaniei just hate having crap all over the system for no reason01:52
Dr_willis_delete the user afterwards01:52
geniilimac: then instead: sudo chown -R limac /home/limac/.kde/apps/d3lphin01:52
melanieyea, that won't delete ALL the stuff created from creating a new user01:52
Dr_willis_They just have a home dir.. and  anything else is handled by the commands that remove the user.01:53
limacgenii: also says no such file or directory01:53
melanieok new user created01:53
melanieloggin in with it now01:53
limacgenii: will restarting my system work?01:53
geniilimac: no01:53
limachmmm01:53
limacso what can I do01:54
geniilimac: then instead: sudo chown -R limac /home/limac; sudo chown -R limac /home/limac/.kde01:54
melanieuhm01:54
JaredI think I've got Java working01:54
Jaredjust hav to download01:54
melanieso i created a new user, but it won't let me login with it lol01:55
* genii hands Jared a mug of coffee01:55
Jaredlol01:55
Jaredit's only taken like 6 hours!01:55
geniilaptop ding, afk looking for cord01:55
Jaredlol01:56
limacgenii: there is such a file if I navigate thru dolphin, so is there a way for me to fix it thru there?01:56
melaniei go k menu -> switch user -> start new session01:56
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Jaredwtf this java download is so slow01:56
melaniekicks me to a login screen, i go to login with the new user and it takes me back to this session01:56
CruCio[IPHONE]Melanie , you're on kubuntu ps3 ?01:56
melanieps3?01:57
melaniei'm on kubuntu 7.1001:57
CruCio[IPHONE]playstation 301:57
Dr_willis_This sounds like some deeper permission issues going on. You might want to try logging out completely and  just logging in as the new user.01:57
melaniealright...01:57
CruCio[IPHONE]hmm01:57
geniilimac: Not sure. Likely it's cached until you exit01:57
CruCio[IPHONE]is ur kubuntu installed on a ps3 ?01:57
melanieuhm no01:58
melaniewhy would it be01:58
CruCio[IPHONE]ok01:58
limacgenii: so how can i get rid of this?01:58
melanieand why would you assume it would be lol01:58
CruCio[IPHONE]because mine is01:58
Dr_willis_its been ps3 day today on the linxu channels for some reason01:58
melaniewell that's a safe assumtion01:58
geniilimac: Did you actually try the: sudo chown -R limac /home/limac; sudo chown -R limac /home/limac/.kde          ?01:58
melaniealright i'll try to logout01:58
limacgenii: yeah, but hold on I think I kinda got it (how to fix it)01:59
geniilimac: If you actually do own that stuff and not root or someone else, it may need to be made writeable01:59
limacgenii: nm, I fixed it w/your help. BTW what does chown and chown R do?02:00
limac*chown -R02:00
geniilimac: chown means to change ownership. -R means recursively do it02:01
limacah! thx genii, i really appreciate your help ;)02:01
geniilimac: You're welcome. Please try not to run any file managers with sudo, always use kdesu instead02:01
Jaredy is java6 taking so long to download? I have adsl 2+02:02
limacalright02:02
* CruCio[IPHONE] Pats Melanie02:02
geniiCruCio[IPHONE]: She already told you she doesn't appreciate that02:02
Jaredargh this is sooo slow!02:05
Jaredim going, thanks every1 for ur help02:05
geniiMust be on dialup02:06
cryonvCan someone help get my eth0 and eth1 straightened out...02:06
NickPrestacryonv, what seems to be the problem?02:06
kiba3~http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52965/02:07
kibaI tried to upgrade to kde4 before it is packaged, thinking it is already packaged already02:07
kibaand was presumely installing a test version of kde402:07
cryonvNickPresta, great question. Half the time I can't seem to turn eth1 (not connected) off (ifconfig eth1 down) and when I do get it down.. eth0 doesn't seem to be working02:08
cryonvNickPresta, I've checked my route and made sure there was a default gw...02:08
geniikiba use the --reinstall switch to ignore existing files it wants to write02:08
cryonvNickPresta, I've even tried the KNetworkManager interface, but it doesn't appear tohelp02:09
geniicryonv: Do yu have in fact 2 ethernet adapters?02:10
cryonvgenii: Yes. Two gig ports...02:10
geniicryonv: Hmm. try: ifconfig eth2 up          and tell me if it thinks you have an eth202:11
geniisudo ifconfig eth2 up                  that is02:11
cryonveth2:ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device02:12
geniicryonv: OK. Means eth0 for instance wasn't reassigned to eth2 or similar situation then02:12
cryonvgenii: True... Right now I've got eth0 up.. (and of course loopback)02:13
cryonvBut it's not seeing the world..02:13
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geniicryonv: Did you statically set them or do they have some automatic entry in /etc/network/interfaces to just get an ip02:14
cryonvgenii: eth0 is a static setting...02:15
geniiNickPresta: Sorry if I hijacked on you02:15
NickPrestagenii, it's okay. I had to run downstairs to get something. You provided more help than I could :)02:15
cryonvLOL... Personally thank you both... It's been a while since I've been on here helping out... and this one has got me stumped...02:15
geniiNickPresta: Ah, all good then :)02:16
geniicryonv: So when you take down eth1 eth0 goes with it, seems?02:16
geniicryonv: Did you install bonding at some point?02:17
geniilike ifenslave  or such02:17
cryonvgenii: Not really. I can take down eth1 *sometimes*, other times it appears to deallocate it's IP address and wait for re-allocation... eth0 goes down... and comes up with ifconfig.. however.. there doesn't appear to be anybody home... :(02:17
cryonvgenii: That program is not currently installed.02:18
geniicryonv: Ok, good (that it's not installed)02:18
cryonvI'm thinking I got something screwed up royally in the network manager... OR that KDE and gnome have become hazardous to eachother...02:19
geniicryonv: Just on a hunch here...did you make your own cables?02:19
cryonvLOL.. yes, but I was connecting earlier on the same machine... I was going from Ubuntu and installing KDE overtop...02:19
thomas_newbie__can someone help me I can't get My apache2 server to work on localhost02:20
thomas_newbie__whenever i do mysite.com/~username It takes me to a page but localhost doesn't work02:20
CruCio[IPHONE]Genii02:21
CruCio[IPHONE]brb ok02:21
CruCio[IPHONE]stay02:21
geniicryonv: I had a similar issue was driving me crazy two weeks ago and it was because I didn't wire the plugs in EIA568A or 568B on cat5e cabling. dhcp was sporrty as hell even at distances of 30-40 feet02:21
cryonvthomas_newbie: what happens when you type in 127.0.0.1/~username02:21
rc-1in bash what command reads a line?02:22
kibano such switch as  sudo apt-get --reinstall02:22
kibano such switch as  sudo apt-get --reinstall02:22
kibano such switch as apt-get --reinstall02:22
kibawhoops02:23
kibasorry02:23
stdinkiba: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package>"02:23
kibamy irssi was scrolled up02:23
supersakoif i have ubuntu installed already and i just add kubuntu-desktop... is there a performance hit running kde this way? or will it be the same as if i uninstalled everything and just install kubuntu?02:23
what_ifwhat program controls the multimedia keys in kubuntu ??02:23
stdinsupersako: there's no difference02:24
kibaYou might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:02:24
kibait still tell me though02:25
cryonvgenii: Any more ideas?02:25
kibaany idea?02:25
DatalancheHey guys.... I have question about the proprietary driver's xvmc acceleration. Does it only accelerate certain codecs or does it just do the whole xv layer, not caring what codec it is?02:25
kibasudo apt-get -f install won't work02:25
Datalanchenvidia card, I mean, sorry02:25
justin_why wont kubuntu allow me to install any programs from adept02:26
geniicryonv: Can you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces   also /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf02:26
geniicryonv: dhclinet.conf is assuming eth1 is set for dhcp02:27
genii*dhclient02:27
cryonvgenii: LOL... Let me see what I can do... After all it's not talking to the network...02:27
* kiba is sad02:27
kibamake me want to buy ubuntu tech support02:27
justin_can someone help me out02:27
geniicryonv: Yep I understand02:27
jaredok, im annoyed02:28
jaredI spent almost an hour downloading the java6 thing from the adept manager02:28
justin_it wont let me d/l anything02:28
justin_from adept manager.  it is very strange02:29
jaredthen when it went to install, it wldnt install!02:29
geniicryonv: just aditional info: for EIA568B wiring cable order left to right looking at contact side of plug and not where the plastic clip is: orng-wht/orng/grn-wht/blue/blue-wht/grn/brn-wht/brn02:30
cryonvGenii: True... Orange, Split the green, flip the blue, brown02:31
tininjared is not your day ;)02:32
jaredi kno grr02:32
jaredu kno y it isnt working?02:32
jaredand y it took almost an hour to download 32MB?02:32
tininwich version of kubuntu are you using?02:32
tinin7.1002:33
supersakoguys, i am a software/web developer.. what DE do the devs here use? Gnome or KDE ( i dont want to start a flame war i just need advice for my needs)02:33
tinin?02:33
jared7.1002:33
tinininstalled?02:33
jaredwha?02:33
jaredoh, yea installed not on live cd02:33
tininjared is it installed or are you running it from the cd?02:33
tininok02:33
Dragnslcrsupersako- what programs do you use for development?02:34
tinin<jared> have you got gnome installed?02:34
jaredno02:34
NickPrestasupersako, take a look at Aptana. it's a great IDE for CSS/HTML/JavaScript and has plugins for Ruby and Rails as well as PHP. http://aptana.com/02:35
DragnslcrBunch of guys where I work use Aptana, and they all like it02:35
sub[t]rnlsupersako➜ #kubuntu  Pretty safe bet that the majority here use and prefer KDE.02:35
tininKde does not get as much love as gnome here in ubuntu :(, in ubuntu (gnome) when you surf to a web that needs flash or java, it would install all you need. On kubuntu this may change for the next version I hope02:36
thomas_newbie__My Apache2 server init script is broken can anyone help to fix?02:37
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, what is broken about it?02:37
jaredtinin, r u saying I can't run Java in kubuntu then?02:37
tininno02:37
jaredomg, now i can't even open the adept manager02:38
tininI say it should'nt give you such headaches02:38
jaredit isn't working...02:38
Jucatotinin: on Kubuntu, when you browse a page that needs flash in Konqueror, you'll be prompted if you want to install Flash. not so sure about Java.02:38
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: hey Nick. Apparently it doesn't start my apache2 service02:38
jarednothing is worjking02:38
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, any errors or output?02:38
NickPresta!doesn't work | jared02:38
ubotujared: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.02:38
jaredlol02:38
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: no errors02:38
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, post it in a !pastebin. I can take a quick look at it02:39
jaredIve spent the last 4 hours giving examples of how it doesnt work02:39
jareddunno how much more u want02:39
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: post what?02:40
geniiWell, 32Mb in a long time IS working, just sloooowly02:40
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, the init.d script.02:40
geniithomas_newbie__: What script did you mean that was not working? One you made to start the webserver?02:41
cryonvGenii: Ok... where would you like the file again?02:41
jaredit downloaded, but it wldnt install02:41
jaredand now i cant even open the freaking adept manager02:41
tininjared It may be somethig wrong, it is not normal, there must be somethig you missed or something you did wrong. If you have nothing important reinstall, it is just 10 min jared02:41
jaredive reinstalled twice02:41
tininXD02:41
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: yes I assume the one that starts my webserver because: 'apache2ctl restart' works and sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start  doesn't work02:42
NickPrestajared, does Adept give you any errors?02:42
jaredI can't open it02:42
jaredit says its already running or sumthing02:42
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, is this the apache2 package from the repos or a compiled version and your custom init.d script?02:42
NickPresta!apt-fix | jared02:42
ubotujared: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »02:42
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: from package02:42
tininYou can not use adep because it may be in use  the apt-get or aptitude commands jared02:42
geniicryonv: pastebin please02:43
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, hmm, strange. I just had a buddy install the apache2/php/mysql packages today. The init.d script worked fine. If you pastebin /etc/init.d/apache2 I can see if there is an error somewhere02:43
genii!paste|cryonv02:43
ubotucryonv: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:43
sub[t]rnljared➜ does a license agreement appear when you try to install java?02:43
jaredit did02:44
jaredi clicked next02:44
jaredthen next again02:44
jaredthen an error came up02:44
Dr_willis_Egads! you agreed to it!02:44
Dr_willis_:P02:44
jaredand now i cant open adept02:44
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52966/02:44
Dhello02:44
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: yesterday, I decided to make some changes and make PHP and MySQL working so I installed some of those packages02:44
tininjared try launching: sudo adept_manager02:45
tininfrom a konsole02:45
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: the funnny thing that happened was that APACHE 1.3 not apache2 took over the operations and I had to uninstall apache 1.302:45
jaredive got adept manager running now02:45
tininit will tell you something at least02:45
bazhang!aptfix | jared02:45
ubotujared: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »02:45
cryonvGenii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52967/02:45
jaredi did that02:45
Jucatotinin: kdesu (or kdesudo) with GUI apps, never just sudo02:45
sub[t]rnlkdesudo would be better tinin02:45
jaredand it worked02:45
DHi guys,  I was using firefox in kubuntu and pressed alt f4 and it dumped me in a console screen that said tty4 and since then i have no keyboard input.  It02:45
Syn-im trying to get Kubuntu-7.10-amd64 to install on a Dell XPS 720 (Q6600 + nvidia 8800 w/ 4GB memory) and it seems the X drivers are out of date, even with safe mode it doesn't work02:46
D's like ctrl is stuck. any help?02:46
Syn-is there a work around documented somewhere?02:46
cryonvD: ALT-F702:46
Syn-:[02:46
tininJucato: sub[t]rnl why not just sudo?02:46
Dwill try cryonv02:46
Jucato!kdesu | tinin02:46
ubotutinin: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)02:46
jareddo I install sun-java6-jdk, jre, plugin or all?02:46
tininI'll see02:47
cryonvSyn: Did you install the Nvidia driver from Nvidia?02:47
tininjared the 3 I told u02:47
Syn-no, easiest way to do that is?02:47
tinin-bin -jre -plugin02:47
jaredwhich are?02:47
jaredkk02:47
tininand fonts02:47
Jucatosun-java6-plugin will actually install -jre and -bin02:47
jaredI have bin installed already02:47
Syn-heck, even the 'safe mode' doesnt work02:48
Jucatoyou don't need -jdk unless you're developing02:48
sub[t]rnl-jdk is the development toolkit02:48
jaredOMG!02:48
jaredsudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a02:48
jaredoops02:48
jaredanywya, didnt work02:48
jaredstupid error message02:48
bazhangtwo seperate commands jared first one then the other02:48
jared?02:48
tininyou need to close adept to use sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a02:48
tinini think02:49
jaredi kno02:49
jaredi said that command on accident lol02:49
tininsudo dpkg --configure -a fixes problems usually02:49
jaredthis stupid thing wont work02:50
jaredcant install any of the shit in the adept manager for java02:50
tininok, throw your pc from a window02:50
jaredgood call02:50
Syn-cryonv: how do i install the nvidia drivers during the install process?02:50
tininit doesn't work02:50
jaredexcept its not mine, its my brothers02:50
cryonvSyn: Hang on a sec...02:50
jareddpkg: status database area is locked by another process02:51
cryonvOk... I think I have it... When you boot what does it give you? Does it dump you to a prompt?02:51
jaredomg its working02:51
cryonvgenii: Any ideas on my problem?02:51
jaredim in an installer for java02:51
Syn-i tried the Kubuntu-KDE4-x86 test release and that actually worked, though i had a drive issue and decided id rather go with the stable version in 64bit mode02:52
tininjared just be patient, "first times hurt" but in a few weeks you'll rule with linux02:52
jaredI ticked the agree box and clicked next02:52
jarednow its installing02:52
jaredevery1 cross ur fingers for me!02:52
tininmiddle finger up...02:52
jaredlol02:52
geniicryonv: Nothing new atm.02:53
jaredomg, it installed02:53
cryonvSyn: I'm running the 7.10 x64 (AMD) version...02:53
BluesKajyeah jared, been using linux so long , i can't help my windoes friends cuz i'm forgetting how to fix stuff in it02:54
jaredhow do u make ur writing red to me02:54
tininXD02:54
Dr_willis_jared,  we dont02:54
tininXD jared02:54
Dr_willis_jared,  your irc client does. :)02:54
BluesKajby using your nick in the sentence, jared02:54
cryonvgenii: OK... I'm not above blowing away the install... (installed today) and starting from scratch...02:54
jaredoh lol02:54
tininnow play02:55
cryonvSyn: And....02:55
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, it looks okay, I don't see why it wouldn't start. Would it be a big deal to purge remove apache202:55
jaredthe computer is now heaps slow after I installed the java...02:55
jaredlets hope it works02:55
tininjava is slow02:56
jareddidnt work :D02:56
Syn-cryonv: yeah it worked with the hard hardy alpha 2 release, im gonna download alpha 3 and go with that02:56
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: I thought I did that but I guess I can do it again02:56
cryonvSyn: hang on a sec...02:56
Syn-cryonv rahter then force this to work by updating drivers or editing files, i do enough of that for work02:56
cryonvWhat do you get when you boot?02:56
geniicryonv: Could be driver for the nic02:56
Syn-after the boot menu it says kernel active02:56
Syn-then the screen goes blank02:56
Syn-then the monitor goes into power save mode02:57
geniicryonv: My Yukon adapter kept cutting out before for instance02:57
cryonvSyn: Ok... enjoy... Alpha's usually are a joy...02:57
CruCiogood02:57
cryonvNOT02:57
jaredwill install more java things02:57
cryonvgenii: OK.. I'll look into it.02:57
jaredbye02:57
cryonvWell folks... I gotta go run off in to the darkness... At least it's snowing and not what it could be... -20... Ug...02:58
Syn-yeah i typically am not an alpha runinng type of person but since an alpha today is 100000000x better then a stable distro release 13 years ago ill give it a shot02:58
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: alright i did this: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2       and it did its thing..Am I still suppost to have all my apache2 files?02:58
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, I don't believe so.02:59
cryonvSyn: Isn't that the truth...02:59
geniicryonv: don't forget your mittens....02:59
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: lol well I have an apache2 folder with my files02:59
cryonvgenii: LOL... Just wish I had an auto start on my car... grrr...02:59
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, sudo apt-get purge apache2. it should get rid of config files and such. the folders may still exist02:59
geniicryonv: I wish I had autostart on my peds03:00
BluesKajsacktime here , nite folks03:00
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: that command not work03:00
CruCioGenii03:01
CruCiook03:01
CruCioits asking for my CD03:01
CruCiowhat did you said i do ?03:01
CruCioMedia change: please insert the disc labeled03:01
CruCio 'Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release powerpc+ps3 (20071016)'03:01
CruCioin the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter03:01
geniiCruCio: Well, before you run that where it even wants you to put the cd:03:01
geniiCruCio: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list   then insert a # before the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list             then ctrl-x to exit, choose Y to save change, Enter/Return to choose same name to save under03:02
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: invalid operation purge03:02
NickPrestathomas_newbie__, then --purge remove should be fine03:02
* cryonv wanders off into the dark snowy evening...03:03
CruCiogenii , so i do this before even trying to install java03:03
CruCioright ?03:03
geniiCruCio: Yes03:04
CruCiook Genii03:04
CruCioi did it03:04
CruCioand it has open something calledGNU03:04
CruCio:| ??03:05
CruCioGNU nano 2.0.6                    File: /etc/apt/sources03:06
geniiCruCio: Does it end with a $  like a shell prompt?03:06
CruCionope03:07
geniiCruCio: Ah, you just have nano open. do then the steps03:07
CruCioyes nano is opened03:07
geniiCruCio: eg:    put a # in front of line that starts with cdrom03:07
geniiCruCio: Then ctrl-x03:07
geniiCruCio: Then Y to save03:08
geniiCruCio: Then Enter to exit03:08
CruCioi don see any word that starts with cdrom03:08
CruCiohonestly03:08
CruCioi see this03:08
hdevalencewhen I try to run Amarok I get03:08
hdevalenceQObject::connect: Incompatible sender/receiver arguments03:09
hdevalence        StarManager::ratingsColorsChanged() --> ContextBrowser::ratingOrScoreOrLabelsChanged(const QString&)03:09
CruCio]03:09
CruCio^G Get Help  ^O WriteOut  ^R Read File ^Y Prev Page ^K Cut Text  ^C Cur Pos03:09
CruCio^X Exit      ^J Justify   ^W Where Is  ^V Next Page ^U UnCut Text^T To Spell03:09
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: no luck nick :( i'm stuck03:09
geniisigh03:09
Dhi guys, alt f7 didn't help getting my ctrl key un-stuck (i think pressing alt f4 started the whole mess, trying to close windows like in MS)  Any thoughts?03:09
CruCiothere is nothing writtin in nano03:09
geniiCruCio: then just hit ctrl-x03:09
CruCiook03:10
CruCionow am back to terminal03:10
geniiCruCio: I don't know much about the way the ps3 install is supposed to go. So you may want to visit the place recommended before http://psubuntu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=703:10
geniifor the java install03:10
CruCiohmm03:10
CruCiogenii , first i just open terminal and type in sudo nano etc... right ?03:11
geniiCruCio: On regular ubuntu/kubuntu that file /etc/apt/sources.list contains lines which are sites to go and get packages from03:11
geniiCruCio: No! Please, pay attention03:11
jaredJava is working :D03:12
jaredthanks heaps everyone that helped03:12
CruCio:(03:12
geniiCruCio: Since your /etc/apt/sources.list file has no contents the ps3 way to install things must work in a different way03:12
CruCio:(03:12
geniiCruCio: Have you even gone to go look at http://psubuntu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7           ??03:12
CruCioyes i have , genii03:13
jaredHow do I change the screen resolution? still haven't found everythign in KDE :P03:13
CruCioeven when i googled03:13
CruCioand whenver i type in $ sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2 libstdc++5 java-package03:13
CruCioin terminal03:13
CruCioit asks me for my cd rom03:13
jaredHow do I change the screen resolution? still haven't found everythign in KDE :P03:13
CruCiobefore it can continue installation03:13
thomas_newbie__NickPresta: I have apache and Apache2 removed and purged. How come I am still able to run my server?03:14
CruCiojared ?03:14
CruCioare you using ps3 ?03:14
jaredno03:14
CruCio:(03:14
jaredlol03:14
ardchoilleCruCio: Please try to form complete sentences, this aids in readability as well as helps to keep scrolling to a minimum.03:14
geniiCruCio: So you went to the Sun website, registered there and downloaded the file ibm-java2-sdk-5.0-4.0-linux-ppc.tgz as the first step already?03:15
jaredany1 know how I can change screen res?03:15
CruCioyes genii  have03:15
geniiCruCio: OK wait 1 minute while I look into whether the ps3 kubuntu is supposed to have a blank sources.list03:16
dappermuisis it possible to delete old pgp keys from the public key servers?03:17
geniiCruCio: OK. I have determined that your file is supposed to contain regular repository entries, there are no special ones apparently to put in. Since it is empty, go to source-o-matic and make a new one03:18
genii!source-o-matic | CruCio03:18
ubotuCruCio: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:18
thomas_newbie__I removed and purged apache2 and yet I can still use sudo apache2ctl restart to start the server. The normal init script doesnt work03:20
justin_my kubuntu will not let me install anything.  can somebody help me??03:21
thomas_newbie__justin_: have you tried apt-get?03:22
justin_yep03:22
justin_all i want to do is install firefox.  i am a linux noob and dont know how to compile anything03:22
thomas_newbie__justin_: I dont know what X Windows you have but go to adept package manager03:23
sub[t]rnlshouldn't need to compile any packages that are in the ubuntu repositories, justin03:23
thomas_newbie__justin_: Adept manager03:23
sub[t]rnljustin_➜ http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/03:23
all_in_sane\j #python03:23
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: you know anything about my problem?03:23
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ what was it again? you removed apache but you can still start it?03:24
justin_i tried the add remove programs app but everything is greyed out and it wont let me select anything03:24
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: yea, i removed it initially because my init script is not working. I wanted to re-install fresh and I removed and purged apache2 and apache. I am still able to start it :D and access pages. ?? HUH? ALl I want to do is make my init script work03:25
thomas_newbie__justin_: k menu -- system -- adept manager03:26
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ hrm, if its running and you can access pages, everything seems fine03:26
sub[t]rnl:P03:26
justin_i am there it is reloading03:26
justin_i srchd for firefox and it did not come up with anything03:27
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: HEHE, no I I have to do 'sudo apache2ctl restart'03:27
hdevalencewhen I try to run Amarok I get "03:27
hdevalenceQObject::connect: Incompatible sender/receiver arguments03:27
hdevalence        StarManager::ratingsColorsChanged() --> ContextBrowser::ratingOrScoreOrLabelsChanged(const QString&)03:27
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ did the init scrip complain when you ran it?03:28
ardchoillejustin_: Are you on Gutsy?03:28
justin_yea03:28
hdevalenceand then it crashes03:28
justin_i fixed it i had to hit the fetch updates button03:28
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: negative03:28
ardchoillejustin_: Fixed now?03:28
justin_yea]03:29
ardchoillejustin_: Good job :)03:29
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ how did you know the init scrip wasn't working?03:29
justin_thnx03:29
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ script*03:29
justin_what about the system updates?? a good idea or not??03:29
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: I could not start up my webserver. Some guru on Apache told me to use 'sudo apache2ctl restart'03:30
ardchoillejustin_: Always good to keep the system updated03:30
justin_ok.  i have been using windoze for years but i am very new to linux any tips or hints03:31
bazhanghttp://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/ justin03:31
ardchoillejustin_: Bookmark this: http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/index/C/index.html03:32
justin_ok03:32
ardchoillejustin_: You'll find Linux is a whole different ball game, but very rewarding :)03:33
justin_ok03:34
batis610I have an ATI RADEON video card X1650,, i tried many tutorials to install it with no result, so i formate my computer many times.... Now i'm asking those who have the same card PLEASE WICH TUTO DID FOLLOW TO INSTALL IT?03:34
ardchoillejustin_: Here's another good site: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu03:34
thomas_newbie__Actually my Schools Linux Club is trying to think of some CRAZY Project to do with Linux03:34
justin_i am using it on a toshiba laptop.  what about power managementy03:34
Tm_T!caps | batis61003:34
ubotubatis610: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.03:34
batis610Tm_T: sorry :)03:35
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: ? hi?03:35
sub[t]rnl?03:36
thomas_newbie__i answer back. no idea why?03:36
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ if its running and works, then call it good.  Or apt-get --purge it and reinstall, to see if that changes anything.  Not much information on what exactly the problem is with your init script if your saying that it doesn't complain when you run it. (if there even is a problem)03:37
geniibatis610: Have you tried here? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide03:37
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: init script doesn't complain but doesn't start the server.03:38
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: I apt-get --purged remove apache2 already03:38
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ you didn't edit the apache2 script at all did you?03:39
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: well yes some03:39
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: not much03:39
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ odd that it wouldn't run it, the very first line of the script defines your shells paths.03:39
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ subtrnl.homelinux.com/apache2 <-- theres mine.  cp it to your /etc/init.d/ with proper permissions, then sudo update-rc.d apache2 defaults03:40
arrrghhhok so i installed kubuntu ontop of ubuntu really easy... why can't i remove it by just purging kubuntu-desktop?  it had no trouble installing everything by installing that one package...03:41
jaredMe again :D03:42
jaredmore problems03:42
arrrghhhor is there an easy way to remove it?03:42
jaredim in monitor & display settings and I can't change the screen size03:42
jaredwhen I move the little thing, it says do you want to keep these settings03:42
jaredbut it hasn't changed03:42
sub[t]rnlarrrghhh➜ its a kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage03:43
jaredany1 kno y?03:43
jaredand how do I get this "metapackage"?03:43
arrrghhhok03:43
arrrghhhi love kubuntu03:43
jaredlol, u were talking to him03:44
jaredim starting to like kubuntu too03:44
arrrghhhi'm converting someone to linux, and kubuntu has worked great on every machine.. until this one03:44
* genii hands sub[t]rnl the large bottle of ibuprofen03:44
arrrghhhand ubuntu worked fine03:44
batis610genii: i'll try it03:44
jaredcan sum1 help me?03:44
sub[t]rnlgenii➜ :>03:44
arrrghhhbut i installed the kubuntu-desktop package and hoped i could get it working, but no... and i'm giving up and going back to gnome because it works.  now i want to remove everything KDE on the system.  the menus are clogged to crap!03:44
batis610sometimes kubuntu start in console mode..... how to avoid this03:44
sub[t]rnlarrrghhh➜ sudo apt-get remove adept adept-batch adept-common adept-installer adept-manager adept-notifier adept-updater akregator amarok amarok-xine apport-qt ark arts debtags digikam dolphin enscript fftw3 foomatic-db-gutenprint gdebi-kde gnupg-agent gpgsm gtk-qt-engine gwenview hplip-gui hwdb-client-kde ijsgutenprint k3b kaddressbook kaffeine kaffeine-xine kamera karm katapult kate kbstate kcontrol kcron kde-guidance03:45
sub[t]rnlkde-guidance-powermanager kde-icons-mono kde-style-polyester kde-systemsettings kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins kdebluetooth kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdepasswd kdepim-kio-plugins kdepim-kresources kdepim-wizards kdeprint kdesktop kdesudo kdm kdnssd keep kfind kghostview03:45
sub[t]rnlkhelpcenter kicker kio-apt kio-locate kio-umountwrapper kipi-plugins klipper kmag kmail kmailcvt kmenuedit kmilo kmix kmousetool kmplayer-base kmplayer-konq-plugins knetworkconf knotes konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole kontact konversation kooka kopete korganizer kpdf kpf kppp krdc krfb kscreensaver ksmserver ksnapshot ksplash ksplash-engine-moodin ksvg ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog ktorrent kubuntu-artwork-usplash03:45
sub[t]rnlkubuntu-default-settings kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-docs kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts kvkbd kwalletmanager kwin kwin-style-crystal language-selector-qt libakode2 libarts1-akode libarts1c2a libartsc0 libaudio2 libavahi-qt3-1 libclucene0 libcluceneindex0 libdbus-qt-1-1c2 libept0 libexiv2-0 libflac++6 libgmp3c2 libgpgme11 libid3tag0 libifp4 libijs-0.35 libimlib2 libjpeg-progs libk3b2 libkbluetooth0 libkcal2b libkcddb1 libkdcraw1 libkdepim1a03:45
jaredspam?03:45
sub[t]rnllibkexiv2-1 libkipi0 libkleopatra1 libkmime2 libkonq4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libksba8 libkscan1 libksieve0 libktnef1 liblua50 liblualib50 libmimelib1c2a libmodplug0c2 libmpcdec3 libmysqlclient15off libnjb5 libofa0 libopenexr2c2a libopenobex1 libpoppler-qt2 libpq5 libpth20 libpulse0 libpythonize0 libqt-perl libqt3-mt libqt4-core libqt4-gui librsync1 libruby1.8 libsamplerate0 libsearchclient0 libskim0 libsmokeqt103:45
geniiAAAAAAAAAAAAAa03:45
arrrghhhholy crap03:45
arrrghhhcan you give that in a pastebin or something?03:45
arrrghhhi mean damn03:45
arrrghhhthat's probably not all of it even03:45
jaredsum1 help please!!03:46
jaredmy monitor display settings arent working03:46
sub[t]rnlsorry everyone, had no idea the clipboard was that full...03:46
sub[t]rnlarrrghhh➜ http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php03:46
jaredi change screen size, but it doesnt work03:46
sub[t]rnlfor removal of kde components03:46
arrrghhhthanks you03:46
jaredi change screen size, but it doesnt work, any1 kno y?03:47
AssuredAnomalyare you changing it by the gui, or xconfig03:47
AssuredAnomaly?03:47
jaredin the system settings03:47
sub[t]rnljared➜ backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg03:48
AssuredAnomalyyea what he said03:48
AssuredAnomalylol03:48
jaredwhat will that do?03:48
jaredand how do I backup that thing?03:48
SyncopatedFoolktorrent and konqueror will no longer let me connect, konqueror will work as a file manager, will not let me access websites.  ktorrent will let people upload from me if i have things seeded, but will not let me connect and download new files03:49
SyncopatedFoolwhat is wrong?03:49
AssuredAnomalyyou dont need to back it up...its a precaution, like "back up the registry before installing a new driver" in windows03:49
AssuredAnomalygood advice03:49
sub[t]rnljared➜ open !konsole and   sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup, then run the other command03:49
AssuredAnomalybut no one does it03:49
jaredkk03:49
arrrghhhyea03:49
CruCiohmm , seriously this isn't right03:49
arrrghhhi forget to back things up when i make changes...03:49
sub[t]rnlSyncopatedFool➜ firewall?03:50
arrrghhhit's a good habit to be in, backing up config files03:50
CruCioi don't think its a fact that u can install java on ubuntu ps303:50
SyncopatedFoolsub[t]rnl: firestarter, but i've been running that with no changes for months03:50
sub[t]rnlSyncopatedFool➜ disable it, and try03:51
sub[t]rnlto be sure03:51
geniiCruCio: Anything is possible. Some of it just is long and frustrating03:51
jaredwhat do I do after entering sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg03:51
SyncopatedFoolsub[t]rnl: command to that in terminal? i run it behind everything, without the graphical controls03:52
jaredwhat do I do after entering sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg03:52
CruCiogenii. i have tried all the links and codes people assumed using it to get java working03:52
CruCiobut why isn't mine working for me ?03:52
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: yea so I used yoru script...when I enter 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2.sh start' it just goes to the next line without giving ok or error or nothing03:52
jaredsub[t]rnl : what do I do after entering sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg03:52
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ ps ax |grep apache and see if its running03:53
geniiCruCio: Beats me. But I think you need to find more ps3 specific help somewhere03:53
jaredsub[t]rnl : what do I do after entering sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg03:53
sub[t]rnltry changing your resolution again03:54
jaredkk03:54
sub[t]rnlSyncopatedFool➜ its a front end to iptables, sudo iptables -L to see what rules are up, or fire up the firestarter gui and click the disable button to check if thats the source of the problem03:54
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52971/03:54
jaredsub[t]rnl it didnt work03:55
sub[t]rnl!resolution > jared03:56
SyncopatedFoolsub[t]rnl: ktorrent still not connecting03:57
SyncopatedFooli should note firefox works perfectly fine, and i can't test with azureus, that not working is why i got ktorrent03:58
SyncopatedFoolkonqueror won't connect either03:58
* burner thinks deluge and ktorrent > azureus03:58
burnerSyncopatedFool: you have a firewall?  your isp block torrent traffic?03:59
burnertry encrypting it?03:59
* val0 azureus is awesome!03:59
SyncopatedFoolburner: no, it's been working fine for months, firewall's firestarter, i have it disabled, i have my hardware firewall disabled03:59
jaredwhered that guy go?04:00
CruCioGenii, even with the link you gave me i must register in order to d/l the specific java and after that withen the download manager you require Java plugin04:01
jaredwho gave me that code?04:01
burnerSyncopatedFool: try encrypting, maybe your ISP is only recently sucking04:01
jaredit put my computer into some weird thing04:01
jaredand it didnt fix it04:01
thomas_newbie__It says my package is broken after I tried to Remove it . What happened?04:01
CruCioand i don't have java installed on my ubuntu so the download manager wont open04:01
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ sudo apt-get install -f04:01
SyncopatedFoolburner: it's weird, because every kde app i have seems to screw up like this, kopete won't connect either, i'm having to use pidgin04:02
SyncopatedFoolburner: everything gtk or tcl/tk works04:02
burnerSyncopatedFool: i'd guess there's a kde specific proxy set.  via konq maybe?  is this kde4 or 3?04:02
SyncopatedFool304:03
burnerSyncopatedFool: there anything in kcontrol about network settings or proxy?04:03
sub[t]rnlhrm, SyncopatedFool try killing knetworkmanager and then sudo /etc/init.d/network restart04:03
geniiCruCio: Did you go to the source-o-matic website to create a sources.list file? Yours is empty, thats why nothing can install04:04
bazhangthat site was down as of yesterday genii04:05
SyncopatedFoolburner: nothing in proxy no socks enabled04:05
geniibazhang: Ah, OK. Was unaware04:05
bazhangand the bot has forgotten the !easysources command :{04:06
CruCio:|04:06
SyncopatedFoolsub[t]rnl: that will kill all network connectivity temporarily, correct? i just want to verify so i can warn people i'm talking with04:06
CruCiosource-o-matic ?04:06
sub[t]rnlSyncopatedFool➜ yes, its temporary.04:07
CruCiodude, am very new to ubuntu04:07
CruCioand i only need it to browse the web and do some research04:08
SyncopatedFoolweird04:09
SyncopatedFooli just killed knetworkmanager and i'm still running04:09
CruCiohow do i create sources list ?04:09
sub[t]rnlSyncopatedFool➜ and do kde apps connect now?04:09
LogicalDashKDE Help Center doesn't seem to be obeying my theme04:09
SyncopatedFoolsub[t]rnl: heh, wow, go figure.  that did it04:10
SyncopatedFoolktorrent works04:10
sub[t]rnldon't ask me how, just keep it in mind if it ever comes up again... :p04:10
stevenyhello04:11
SyncopatedFooli don't either, but that should be easy to remember, thanks04:11
genii!paste04:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:11
stevenyI have just started kubuntu!!! can anyone please help with a quick USB question?04:11
sub[t]rnlask away steveny04:12
stevenyall of my usb stuff is not being detected:(04:12
geniiCruCio: Use this for  starting point of your sources.list then since source-o-matic is down04:12
geniiCruCio: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52973/04:12
CruCiothanks for your help genii04:13
CruCiobut am gonna try to find this thing out myself04:13
stevenylsusb gives Bus device ID 0000:000004:13
sub[t]rnldmesg telling you anything when you plug it in?04:13
CruCioam getting tired of all this googling and besides non og you guys uses a ps304:14
geniiCruCio: change debian.yorku.ca   and us.archive.ubuntu.com   to local names if you can, like ru.archive.ubuntu.com    or so <-- note country code of russia for that one04:14
stevenyi don't know what to look for in there:( it is very long :(04:15
sub[t]rnlplug it in, then dmesg |tail04:15
CruCiowere 314people in this chat room and no one is using ps304:16
stevenyit says all bluetooth stuff...nothing about usb04:16
bazhangmany are idle CruCio04:16
CruCioguess windows users and linux users lives complately in a diff world04:16
CruCiosteveny , guess thats kubuntu's problem04:17
bazhangCruCio: more likely a hardware/driver problem04:18
stevenyit worked when I livecd'ed...then I installed, and now the usb drives don't work:(    is there another ubuntu I should try?04:18
CruCiowhy don't you use ubuntu04:18
CruCioinstead of kubuntu04:18
bazhangCruCio: that would not change a thing04:19
stevenywell....I have ubuntu on a cd....but when I livecd'ed it, the drives weren't detected either:(04:19
val0ok i have a major newbie issue here. I installed compiz and now i can't log in. it doesn't fail with a message, just that right after press enter after typing my password it boots me back to the log in screen. I don't remember the exact URL but it's the tutorial off the Ubuntu Forums. The only mode that I could log in is text and console only04:19
juliusrjhello04:20
stevenywhen I installed it said something about /etc/mtab etc/fstab del/sdal whenit was detecting devies....specifically when I said open when it detected the usb drive during install04:21
sub[t]rnlval0➜ check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors.  to reconfigure a working xorg.conf, use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:22
raomancan anyone help me with ntfs prob on kubuntu 7.1004:24
stevenyno luck anyone?:( oh well....maybe I'll try WD40 in the cd drive....04:25
sub[t]rnl!ntfs > raoman04:25
squarebottleHeya. I'm trying to use kmplayer (instead of kaffeine) because it can use mplayer as its engine, which supports .ass subtitles (yes, that's the name of the format), but it doesn't quite play back perfectly when I use the mplayer engine. I think it's because it's running out of memory, so do you know how I could increase the memory or something?04:25
ian__squarebottle, im very new to linux but maybe a larger swap parition would help?04:26
squarebottleian__: Heh, thanks, but that isn't it. Swap is the equivalent of "virtual memory," so that wouldn't really help. In any case, the issue isn't that the computer doesn't have enough memory. It's that kmplayer isn't using enough of it!04:27
ian__ahh, gotcha04:27
sub[t]rnlsquarebottle➜ might want to checkout the kmplayer forums if you can't find any help here04:30
squarebottlesub[t]rnl: Yeah. Was hoping somebody in here might know though, but yeah. :)04:31
jcgkffycsI am all of the sudden getting this error when i try to use apt-get, "the following packages have unmet dependencies:  dekorator: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installable             Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4) but it is not installable E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)." I have not tried any thing involving kde4 on the computer, none of the04:31
jcgkffycsrepositories are enabled and nothing has been installed, also the app i am trying to install is inkscape which is actually a gnome app.04:31
squarebottlesub[t]rnl: I prefer IRC to forums anymore, personally. Once upon a time, I couldn't even imagine myself saying that. Heh. Anyway, I might also try in #kde04:31
val0sorry someone was helping me out with my compiz error, i can't remember who you were!04:31
raomani managed to install ntfs loader on my kubuntu, but wat i hav is from dapper. it mounts my external drives, but sometimes they remain inaccessible even after mounting....any help?04:31
thomas_newbie__I really am having trouble. I can't remove apache2 and re-install properly04:35
jazzlesare there any 5.6 ghz cups on the market?04:36
batis610i've installed compiz by typing sudo apt-get install compiz compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-core compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-plugins04:42
batis610how can launch it and test it?04:42
bazhangbatis610: card drivers installed/enabled?04:43
batis610yes installed04:43
bazhangthen alt f2 compiz --replace04:43
bazhangand alt f2 kwin --replace to get back out04:43
ian__Does the "desktop selector" pager that comes with KDE not work with compiz? I DLed a different one from kde-look and it worked so I was just wondering04:45
batis610bazhang: already done... what should i have then04:45
bazhangbatis610: you need to go into the settings manager and check some of the plugins and then check the keybindings (key combos) to see if they work04:46
rc-1what program is good for backups04:47
reverend_joshuahow well does installing a dual boot winxp/kubuntu setup work?04:50
batis610bazhang: keybindings?04:50
ian__reverend, I'm actually dual booting those 2 combos right now, works well.04:50
sub[t]rnlrc-1➜ I like tar and dd04:50
bazhangbatis610: are you in the settings manager?04:50
ian__defenately wanna install windoZe first though unless you wanna tinker with the grub04:51
reverend_joshuaxp is already on04:51
ian__oh ok04:51
batis610bazhang: advanced desktop settings manager04:51
reverend_joshuai've got the physical disk partitioned to c: and e:, kubuntu will go on e:04:51
bazhangbatis610: yes; under keybindings there will be the suggested key combinations to get things going for the various effects04:52
reverend_joshuamy only concern is the dual boot issue with this being a dell04:52
reverend_joshuai'm not certain of how/if grub works with it04:52
ian__I've dual booted with dells before without a problem...but it was an OLD computer so I don't know if it's changed....04:53
reverend_joshuathis is a few years old04:53
reverend_joshuamore than a few, 7 :(04:53
* genii sips his NyQuil04:54
ian__hmm... Well the only way to see then would be to try it. As long as no valuable data is on E:, i'd think you should be good. haha, well seems to be a common age for compies04:54
reverend_joshuaword04:54
reverend_joshuathanks for the info04:54
ian__NP, nest of luck to you... emails anonymous5929@gmail.com if you run into trouble04:54
bazhangbatis610: you find them?04:56
batis610bazhang:no i think... i just check some combos nut nothing happens04:57
QMarioHave any of you experienced a bug in which when you press "Ctrl+Tab" on the last tab of Konqueror 4, it crashes immediately?04:57
bazhangbatis610: and you have which card and driver?04:57
batis610display: :0.0  screen: 004:58
batis610OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.04:58
batis610OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1650 Series04:58
batis610OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)04:58
geniiQMario: As well if it's some known bug, #kubuntu-devel may have help04:58
bazhangbatis610: what combos did you check and what were the keybindings?05:00
sub[t]rnlQMario➜ couldn't reproduce it here, check bugs.launchpad.net05:00
yasahironow i have another problem..05:01
QMarioSub[t]rnl, are you on the last tab, and are you using Konqueror 4?05:02
yasahiromy kubuntu installation reads japanese mostly well... but i noticed there are a few japanese kanji that it just displays as boxes :(05:02
biovoreyasahiro: you need to install the xfonts for them probably..05:03
batis610bazhang: rotate cube ==> ctrl+alt+left or right05:03
bazhangbatis610: and what happens when you alt -f2 then compiz --replace and use those keybindings?05:04
geniisub[t]rnl: I checked launchpad, nothing similar in 75 results for konqueror including the 3.5.x series reports05:05
vincent_is anyone up for some quick noob-ish questions?05:05
sub[t]rnlgenii➜ roger that05:05
batis610bazhang: nothing05:05
ian__vincent, im a noob myself but i'll try :-p05:06
sub[t]rnlonly thing close is Bug #12361505:06
geniisub[t]rnl: Yup05:06
bazhangbatis610: what about when you click on the desktop 2, 3, 4 icons--is it 3D-ish or not05:06
vincent_haha cool, thanks ian. i got kubuntu the other day, and its been great, except for two big problems: the first is Adept is being a massive pain in the arse05:06
ian__haha I see05:06
vincent_the second isnt as big a deal, my nvidia drivers refuse to work, but ill worry about that later05:06
ian__oh ok05:06
yasahiro_how would one install the xfonts?05:07
ian__so the first...05:07
vincent_but with adept, i think its like a repository thing..05:07
ian__ah, whats it saying?05:07
vincent_i check all the boxes, and then click 'get updates', it gets through 30% (looking for headers), then it just stops05:07
batis610bazhang: no nothing is in d05:07
batis6103d05:07
ian__hmm05:07
vincent_hangs for about 5 minutes, then flashes, and nothing is fixed.05:07
val0squarebottle i did what you told me to do, copied the files, rebooted the machine and the problem is still there05:08
vincent_every time i try to get a file through apt-get, it says it cant be found05:08
vincent_any ideas, ian?05:08
ian__wow I've not heard of that...05:08
ian__sometimes when I have a problem with adept though... I try typing "dpkg --configure -a" into a terminal05:08
ian__that has fixed lots of problems in the past05:08
bazhangbatis610: so using the alt-f2 commands (compiz --replace and kwin --replace) does nada?05:08
vincent_ahh ill give it a try05:09
ian__aight, I'll try looking through google...05:09
vincent_thanks for this ian05:10
vincent_ive looked through google for a while.. i wouldnt be this obsessed if amarok worked, but i think its all related05:10
batis610bazhang: nada... :(05:10
ian__NP, I'd like to help as much as I can05:10
ian__oh yeah05:10
ian__thats possible05:10
vincent_its giving me that 'unable to play mp3's' message that everyone seems to have, but just never works05:11
bazhangbatis610: where did you install the drivers from? please dont tell me envy :{05:11
ian__yeah sounds like the reposotories are messed up...05:11
batis610i follows this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide05:11
vincent_is there a way to just wipe all the packages ive tried to install and just start over? im not to keen on a format, but i think ive buggered this05:12
ian__I think I've heard of a way but im not sure how to do it. Another way to test to see if its the repos would be to check/uncheck them one at a time and seeing which one is the trouble maker05:13
vincent_ah thats a good idea05:13
vincent_when i use apt-get, thats different to adept isnt it?05:13
vincent_or is it just the command line version?05:13
ian__I'm pretty sure its just he command line version05:14
ian__adept/synaptic i think are just GUIs05:14
vincent_ohh i see05:14
ian__adept seems to be alot touchier than synaptic (just switched over to KDE so im not entirely sure if I'm right)05:14
vincent_mm, i used to use slackware, and i dont remember ever having a problem with the packages.. but then, under slackware, i couldnt even get on the internet05:15
dehspehlanyone share my dislike for strigi, at least the kio part of it that takes over locate:/ ?05:15
ian__oh yeah, I tried slack too but had the same problem...didn't bother to invest the time because I fell in love too much with ubuntu lol05:16
vincent_lol05:16
vincent_yeh, the weird thing with this is i can just swap the partitions right now and go back to vista, and not have any problems05:16
CruCiogenii ?05:16
vincent_but.. im hooked to ubuntu!05:16
CruCiohow do i install something that i have just downloaded ?05:16
vincent_my sister just asked why i bothered to do all this, coz it means she cant play oblivion, and i didnt have an answer for her, lol05:17
vincent_sh <filename>05:17
vincent_isnt it crucio?05:17
ian__haha yeah, I'm loving going to bed and not hearing my HD buzzing from who knows what programs doing who knows what tasks...05:17
vincent_lol05:17
CruCiofilename ?05:17
vincent_what are you installing crucio?05:17
ian__rofl I get the same from my fiance... but she doesn't care cause shes hooked on Kolf :-/05:18
Berzerkercan I install kubuntu on a USB drive?05:18
vincent_oo, whats kolf?05:18
CruCioibm-java2-sdk-5.0.-6.0-linux-pcc.tgz05:18
dehspehlvincent_: mini putt golf05:18
val0squarebottle i fixed it! i fixed it! with the method you told me to! I totally love you dude! but in the platonic kind of way!05:18
ian__lol it's a little golf game you can DL from the packagae manager.er, umm...yeah once its working lol05:18
vincent_ohh, awesome, i love gold.05:18
vincent_woops, golf*05:18
vincent_and gold.05:18
vincent_lol ian05:18
ian__haha05:18
vincent_ah crucio, i think that needs to be gunzipped05:18
vincent_but im not sure how to do it05:19
CruCiovincent how ?05:19
batis610bazhang: i follows this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide05:19
dehspehlvincent_: I'm having "vista just works, no problems" problems right now05:19
sub[t]rnlBerzerker➜ you can.  I've installed a working liveCD on one.05:19
vincent_hehe what do you mean?05:19
vincent_crucio: try typing gz ibm-java05:20
dehspehlvincent_: well only vista knows how to display stuff to the screen, now05:20
vincent_but the full filename05:20
CruCiogz -ibm- java ?05:20
CruCioin terminal right ?05:20
bazhangbatis610: does that recommend you install from the repos or from the card manufacturer's site?05:20
vincent_hang on CruCio05:20
vincent_type05:20
squarebottleval0: Heh, great!05:20
dehspehlvincent_: for instance, dos boot floppy via usb? nada. ubuntu livecd? zilch. bios updates, don't help at all05:20
vincent_gz ibm-java2-sdk-5.0.-6.0-linux-pcc.tgz05:20
geniiCruCio: You need to untar it first.   so:    tar -xvzf ibm-java2-sdk-5.0.-6.0-linux-pcc.tgz05:21
dehspehlvincent_: oh, and the bios/post/manufacturer stuff doesn't appear at all05:21
vincent_oo dont like the sound of that deh..05:21
squarebottleval0: Do you understand the different things I told  you to do? Like, if somebody else came along and asked you what happened, could you tell them?05:21
geniiCruCio: It should make a file. so then: ./filename                   to run that05:21
what_ifhow do I change the multimedia keys for my keyboard? I need to disable the "standby" button (I've hit it twice today already :( :(05:21
CruCioi need unzip ot you mean ?05:21
batis610bazhang: iused method 1... from repos05:21
vincent_oh man, this irc channel is the most functional thing ive found in kubuntu so far ;)05:21
ian__yeah it's great...my first time on it05:21
neville-_-v05:21
vincent_mine too05:22
yasahirono fair.... gimp can display that kanji... firefox can....openoffice can... yet amarok and kaudiocreator cannot05:22
vincent_GRR, amarok!05:22
squarebottleval0: I don't want you to feel like I just burped up some cryptic, arcane code and handed it at you, heh.05:22
ian__cool, how's the adept going?05:22
ian__oh doesn't sound good05:22
bazhangbatis610: not sure about the ATI cards; I use nvidia seems like your drivers are not enabled though, seeing as you have ccsm installed etc05:22
ian__*sigh, I hate to tell you to reinstall...doesn't really SOLVE the problem...05:22
vincent_its doin the same stuff as before.. i just used apt-get update05:22
val0squarebottle yes totally, i was smart enough to make a back up copy of the xorg.cong because i knew that i'll need it later. I know that once I edited that xorg file the system broke... you helped me back up the one that's broken and over write it with the backup copy that i had05:22
squarebottleval0: Rock on. :)05:23
vincent_lol..  it might be my shady connection, i have 256k in australia.. everything is probably timing out, haha05:23
yasahiroanybody know how to get these programs that only display a box when i try to type the kanji... to actually recognize it? :(05:23
sub[t]rnlwhat_if➜ kcontrol -> Regional access -> keyboard shortcuts05:23
ian__oh haha, ya know...that may be it...05:23
val0squarebottle i think that i am starting to get the basics of linux, quiet different than windows05:23
yasahirosomebody said something about xfonts before...05:23
ian__honestly I'm stuck though. as for Nvidia Drivers though, did you use the "restricted drivers management"?05:24
CruCiogenii explain step by step ?05:24
squarebottleval0: There's a really good quote about the simplicity of Linux. I forget who says it. It goes something like, "Linux is as simple as it gets, but you have to be a genius to understand its simplicity."05:24
geniiCruCio: tar -xvzf ibm-java2-sdk-5.0.-6.0-linux-pcc.tgz05:24
vincent_amen, squarebottle05:24
bazhangyasahiro: you have scim installed?05:24
val0squarebottle the biggest think that i now need to learn is the meaning and location of certain vital files, ie. difference between /etc /bin etc.05:24
ian__haha great quote05:24
yasahirowell, i have skim...05:24
val0squarebottle lol true enough, once again thanks for holding my hand and helping me out!05:24
vincent_i dled the linux nvidia drivers, have to run them while KDE is off, but its claiming i dont have libc, which i really do.. so it probably all falls back to adept!!05:25
yasahiroits only a few kanji that it wont recognize05:25
geniiCruCio: Tell me when it finishes05:25
squarebottleval0: No problem! BUT there's something you have to do too now.05:25
nevillevincent_ you need libc6-dev05:25
ian__ahh well try this:05:25
vincent_ahh cheers nev! thanks man05:25
ian__neville, if he uses restricted drivers management program will it DL libc6-dev as a dependancy?05:25
squarebottleval0: To pay me back, here's what you have to do. The next person you see in real life, regardless of who they are, you've got to get them to somehow say to you, "I know you love me."05:26
nevilleI dunno, I've never used the restricted drivers manager :P05:26
ian__oh ahha05:26
CruCiogenii , it says no such file or directory05:26
bazhangyasahiro: and have it configured it? once you have you should be able to right click select input method scim and then choose hiragana kanji etc05:26
vincent_lol square, thats a little strange ;)05:26
squarebottlevincent_: :P05:26
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ian__lol05:26
yasahiroyeah, i did05:26
squarebottlevincent_: You gotta love it though. C'mon.05:26
wilsonconditional help !05:26
vincent_squarebottle: of course ;)05:27
yasahirolike... for example...05:27
geniiCruCio: Where did you put the file?05:27
vincent_squarebottle: i just hope im not the next stranger he sees :|05:27
ian__lol05:27
squarebottlevincent_: It gets interesting when a complete stranger walks in.05:27
vincent_hahah i can imagine05:27
bazhangyasahiro: and you right click in the entry box and choose input method scim? and then try typing in kanji etc?05:27
CruCioOMG!!05:27
vincent_grr! even when i use apt-get update it still hangs on 30%05:27
CruCiohmm05:27
wilsonjust tell them so0me nutter made you promise to get them to say it05:28
squarebottlevincent_: Probably most amusing when done at a bar, but yeah. And you can pass it off as being positive, too.05:28
yasahiro映 displays fine...   像 displays fine.... 涙 (namida) just displays a box in everything except firefox, openoffice, and some other program..05:28
CruCioGenii05:28
CruCioi think i did it05:28
ian__well vincent, If you still have problems with Nvidia drivers, try opening up the "system settings" window, click on the "advanced" tab and then look in your "Restricted Drivers MAnagement". That should let you check and install your Nvidia drivers VERY easily05:28
val0squarebottle lol my lady is right across from me, and she just said that, does that count?05:28
nevilleOr05:28
vincent_squarebottle: lol, yeh, then they may feel a bit of guilt as they beat the crap out of me!05:28
yasahiroi can type it all05:28
nevilleEven easierly05:28
yasahirobut..05:28
nevilleYou can use Envy05:28
bazhangyasahiro: then you need to install more fonts05:28
ian__hehe yeah05:28
squarebottleval0: Awww, how boring! But yeah, it counts. :P05:28
ian__envy rocks just a good if not better :)05:28
nevilleEven though these guys say it isn't supported and not to use it, use it anyway!05:28
CruCioi don't know if it has installed anything yet05:28
vincent_ohh thanks ian, hang on, imma try it05:29
yasahirowhat fonts do i need?05:29
ian__ok05:29
squarebottleian__: Envy is risky, actually.05:29
bazhang!envy05:29
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »05:29
ian__oh really?05:29
neville-_-v05:29
vincent_woah woah wait05:29
nevilleWhat did I tell you05:29
nevilleAnyway, the only problem it had was05:29
nevilleWith my Geforce 205:29
geniiCruCio: so the tar command is done?05:29
val0squarebottle lol yeh i know, but we are all boring, look where we are talking and what we are talking about05:29
nevilleIt needed a bit of "manual guidance"05:29
CruCioyes05:29
CruCioit loaded alot of files05:29
squarebottleval0: Hahaha, touche!05:29
bazhangyasahiro: you can apt-cache search japanese in the konsole for some of those; do you have kubuntu-restricted-extras installed?05:30
vincent_this may sound stupid.. but is there some sort of firewall that comes by default with linux that may be stopping adept getting my files?05:30
nevilleNope05:30
squarebottlevincent_: Nope.05:30
CruCiomust i do anything els ?05:30
vincent_damn.05:30
ian__I dont think so05:30
ian__:(05:30
vincent_coz that really would solve all my problems05:30
squarebottlevincent_: Hmmmmmmm. What repositories do you have enabled?05:30
ian__repo problems ....dang05:30
vincent_i gotta tell you, im about ready to sacrifice a virgin to the great penguin to get this thing to work05:31
wilsoni tried kubuntu hardy today in a virtual machine, works ok after a bit 'o mucking around, kde4 sessions crash the x server , that's the only problem for me so far05:31
ian__ROFL05:31
bazhangyasahiro: some examples would be ttf-kochi-mincho-naga, ttf-mikachan, and others05:31
wilsonxorg 7.3 is a pain in the ass05:31
sub[t]rnlvincent_➜ a firewall does come with kubuntu by default, though its rules accept everything until configured05:31
val0squarebottle now i am going to figure out how to get rid of this thing... not ready for it just yet... do you by any chance if there is a way to see what packages you installed on your machine sorted by date?05:31
vincent_ok squarebottle, i have all of the ones ticked05:31
nevillevincent_ you think you're having troubles05:31
squarebottlevincent_: There are better things to do with virgins than that, I assure you. Ahem. But yeah, what repositories do you have enabled?05:31
vincent_lol squarebottle05:32
vincent_whats wrong, neville?05:32
vincent_i have em all ticked squarebottle05:32
squarebottlevincent_: Is the one for the CD unchecked like it should be? And also, you can disable all the "source" repositories safely.05:32
ian__You didn't add any?05:32
ian__*by hand I mean05:32
bazhangvincent_: pastebin your sources list to let us see if that is it05:32
vincent_ah now it is..05:32
nevilleTry installing a Geforce 2 properly :D05:32
neville-> painful05:32
CruCiovincent ? after "tar" is done what do i do next ?05:33
vincent_pastebin?05:33
squarebottlevincent_: See if disabling the CD as a repository and all the source repositories makes your penguin deity sufficiently pleased.05:33
vincent_then use sh <filename>05:33
CruCio?05:33
bazhang!paste | vincent_05:33
ubotuvincent_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:33
ian__ohh I hope it does, if so I learned something new05:33
vincent_ok imma trying square05:33
vincent_thanks ubotu05:33
CruCiovincent , i have no clue of what ur speaking of05:33
CruCioam new to ubuntu05:33
bazhanghe is a bot vincent_05:33
vincent_oh05:34
vincent_lol, woops.05:34
bazhang:}05:34
vincent_thanks for telling me bazhang, probably saves a world of embarrasment when i try to ask it where it is from later..05:34
CruCioso after tar what do i do , vincent ?05:34
vincent_ok, now, my sources list05:34
vincent_crucio, whats your file called?05:34
CruCioexplain specificaly ?05:34
vincent_now that it is untarred?05:35
bazhangvincent_: you can message the bot if you need factoids and such05:35
CruCioibm-java2-sdk-5.0.-6.0-linux-pcc.tgz05:35
* squarebottle loves when people think the bot is alive.05:35
* vincent_ remembers the moral of the story I-Robot05:35
ian__lol05:35
vincent_bazhang: where is the sources list again?05:35
gttwhat's the default keyboard shortcut for the menu in KDE405:36
gttdriving me nuts05:36
gttjust installed.05:36
vincent_  /etc/ somewhere?05:36
val0if people think that the bot is alive doesn't it mean it passed the Turing test?05:36
Tm_Tgtt: alt-F1 ?05:36
CruCio??05:36
gttnot working for me.05:36
gttmaybe it's a bug?05:36
vincent_val0: is that the one from blade runner?05:36
vincent_oh, CruCio05:36
gtti thought that was strange too.05:36
vincent_type05:36
vincent_sh  ibm-java2-sdk-5.0.-6.0-linux-pcc i think05:36
vincent_uh.. withtout the i thing05:37
CruCiok05:37
gtti was also disappointed with how it didn't keep my startup apps so i was networkless until i figured out how to launch knetworkmanager05:37
ian__isn't it /etc/apt/sources.list ? or is there a different oen05:37
val0ok this is the most idiotic thing i've done in a long time.05:37
bazhangvincent_: /etc/apt/sources.list05:37
StrangeletI am thinking of installing XP on a seperate partition, the arrangement I have decided on so far is 1 with Kubuntu, 1 with XP, 1 filled with all my media, and 1 swap. Is this good? And what filesystem should the media partition be?05:37
val0i was testing my own Alt-F1 function, then Alt-F2, then Alt-F3 just to see what happens... Then Alt-F4 happend :S05:38
vincent_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52980/05:38
vincent_lmao val005:38
Strangeletval0, ecks-dee ecks-dee!05:38
CruCiovincent ? must the ibm-java2-sdk-5.0-6.0-linux-ppc.tgz be located somewhere ?05:39
vincent_nope?05:39
vincent_why, whats it saying?05:39
CruCiobecause i have and it says "can't Open"05:39
vincent_wait, youwant to sh the one that you have unzipped05:39
vincent_where did you unzip it to?05:39
CruCio Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string05:39
CruCiojuju@localhost:~$ sh ibm-java2-sdk-5.0-6.0-linux-ppc.tgz05:39
CruCiosh: Can't open ibm-java2-sdk-5.0-6.0-linux-ppc.tgz05:39
CruCiojuju@localhost:~$05:39
val0Strangelet yep go ahead05:40
bazhangvincent_: automatix? uh oh05:40
CruCioits on my desktop05:40
vincent_:o05:40
vincent_is that the problem??05:40
ian__hehe05:40
CruCioi dunno05:40
CruCiotar worked05:40
CruCiobut05:40
Strangeletval0: okay, thank you. And what about the media-filled partition? what format?05:40
CruCiowhy not this one ?05:40
ian__yeah that looks suspicious05:41
bazhangvincent_: world of trouble with automatix05:41
vincent_ohh thank god.05:41
vincent_should i just delete the line from the sources.list?05:41
ian__whats automatrix? Never heard of that one05:41
wilsonvincent_: you are better off using an australian mirror, for speed05:41
Tm_Tian__: nothing to look at05:41
bazhanghttp://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html vincent_ read that05:41
ian__oh ok05:41
vincent_i was a bit worried about reliability though wilson, is it good to use?05:42
CruCiowell05:43
CruCiothis suck05:43
CruCio:(05:43
CruCioam out05:43
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vincent_crucio05:43
vincent_there should be a help thing or something.. try to find the untarred version05:43
vincent_bazhang: that is a long list of problems :\05:44
val0so does any1 know if there is a way to see the packages that are installed by the date of the installation?05:44
bazhangvincent_: sure is; and all the reason to avoid ever using automatix--almost guaranteed to bork your system05:45
vincent_kk, i just took it out of sources and the repository05:45
ian__wow well this is great I've learned something new05:45
ian__let us know if it works!05:45
vincent_but now, it just hangs on 0% (waiting for headers)05:45
ian__dang05:46
bazhangvincent_: that will not fix the damage that has been already done if you have installed anything from there05:46
vincent_bazhang: i dont think i have, i cant think of anything i have installed.. i know i looked at it, coz i was having a lot of problems with amarok and everyone just had auto as a solution05:47
bazhangvincent_: you 100 percent sure on that?05:48
sigma_1234is there a kde alternative to skype?05:48
vincent_100% sure of what?05:48
vincent_oh, not having installed anything?05:48
vincent_no.. not 100%..05:48
bazhangright; from automatix05:49
vincent_xmms-1.2.11.. does that sound anything like automatix?05:49
dhq_http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/8405:49
bazhangany problems you have from now on may be caused from that source--this a recent install vincent_?05:49
vincent_it is05:50
vincent_but ive only had kubuntu for 4 days05:50
dehspehlbazhang: vincent_: I'm actually working on a distro to help fix the problem of "greedy" package managers05:50
bazhangdehspehl: what name?05:50
ian__ohhh cool, got a website we can track progress on/05:50
vincent_dehspehl: sounds brilliant05:51
dhq_dehspehl: http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/84  can you help mhttp://pastebin.dylanhq.com/84e out05:51
bazhangvincent_: may as well reinstall then--every helper in the future on discovering you used automatix will be like: "what!?" and tell you it is not supported05:52
vincent_reinstall kubuntu?05:52
ian__I wsa wondering at which point reinstalling was reccomended....05:52
bazhangyour call vincent_ but that is what *I* would do05:52
vincent_ive rooted this version i think, lol05:52
ian__*in refference to faked up repos05:52
vincent_ive installed packages from the debian database, but thats a bloody joke, every one ive tried to do needs other ones to work05:53
vincent_so ive ended up with all these packages that dont work05:53
reverend_joshuathe installer on kubuntu keeps dying05:53
bazhangvincent_: kubuntu/ubuntu has everything you need without the automatixes etc, best to keep it in house if you know what I mean05:53
Strangeletheehee, woww05:53
vincent_i get you05:53
vincent_so format time, bazhang?05:53
dehspehlian__: haven't yet got much done, because of the tech predicament I'm on - waiting for my desktop. I just thought the idea up when I realized the pain I went through installing chain-deps from source05:54
bazhangvincent_:  the support for kubuntu/ubuntu is unmatched in linux and if you do what is recommended you will reap the benefits of that support :}05:54
vincent_mm, thats why i picked it :D05:54
vincent_a guy at work suggested gentoo05:54
vincent_but the ubuntu community sounded nicer ;)05:55
ian__dehspehl: I see, thats pretty sweet though! I'll keep an eye out.05:55
bazhangvincent_: google and the ubuntuforums and sometimes coming here will almost always fix your issues05:55
vincent_mm05:55
sub[t]rnljust tuned in, what happened to vincent_?05:55
sub[t]rnlballpark05:55
ian__his repositoris got screwed up from automatix05:55
vincent_lol sub[t]rnl, dont get me started ;)05:56
sub[t]rnlautomatix.. eep05:56
vincent_its all to do with my packages i think05:56
ian__lol05:56
vincent_lol05:56
dehspehlian__: It will be debian based, or something else if good Union FS support is hard to come by05:56
vincent_oh wait, one more think05:56
vincent_thing*05:56
vincent_whenever i try to apt-get install filename, it says E; filename cannot be found05:56
vincent_is that normal on kubuntu?05:56
vincent_or is that more repository garbage?05:57
sub[t]rnlif <filename> isn't in one of the repos, yeah its normal05:57
ian__dehspehl: well thats good because I went back and forth between debian and redhat and man, deb kicks butt, BTW the red text I'm guessing means you're just sending that to me...how do you do that?05:57
Strangeletian__: you type the persons name in front like you are doing05:57
dehspehlian__: no, it's just prefixed name. not registered so I can't /msg05:57
reverend_joshuawhat file system does my install partition need to be for kubuntu?05:57
vincent_all the faqs are telling me to do it though.. for example, i need libxine-specialcodecs or something for amarok, but it isnt there05:57
Strangeletian__: it's fine, you are doing it correctly. :)05:58
ian__sweet thanks05:58
sub[t]rnllibxine-extracodecs?05:58
vincent_yeh thats the one05:58
Strangeletno probs05:58
sub[t]rnllibxine1-ffmpeg has replaced that05:59
ian__WEll guys it's late here so i'm off...vincent lots of luck to you just remembmer, "desktop cube" makes it all worth it:-p05:59
Jucatovincent_: if you're on Gutsy, libxine-extracodecs no longer exists. use the one that sub[t]rnl gave you05:59
vincent_lol desktop cube?05:59
ian__oh man, havn;t heard of it?05:59
vincent_neg?05:59
vincent_just tried that sub[t]rnl, it says i have no installation candidate06:00
reverend_joshuawhat file system does my install partition need to be for kubuntu?06:00
vincent_what is it ian, im all intrigued ;D06:00
dehspehlian__: basically if all the linux distros/livecds aren't too disparate as far as - union filesystem, sys v init/upstart/launchd, and etc, you could just pop in any image and switch base distros instantly06:00
vincent_kubuntu should do it itself shouldnt it reverend_joshua?06:00
reverend_joshuait doesn't seem to be06:00
ian__when you get your graphics card going, install compiz... you can enable a "3d desktop cube" that you can twirl around , amazing06:00
sub[t]rnlreverend_joshua➜ ext3 is a good one06:01
vincent_bah ian__! i have cubes i need to rotate in real life ;)06:01
* vincent_ picks up dice.06:01
* vincent_ gets bored.. and then downloads desktop cube!06:01
ian__dehspehl: I seee06:01
vincent_sub[t]rnl: , do you know what my install candidate is referring to?06:01
sub[t]rnlwhat package are you installing again?06:02
vincent_libxine1-ffmpeg06:02
ian__dehspehl: honestly I don't know much about linux file systems... I'm quite the n00b :-p06:02
ForgeAusian what do you need to know? and what file systems did you know before?06:03
ian__Oh, dehspehl was just talking about a distro he was working on... I mainly worked just with ntfs...barely with that! in fact I'm really mainly into the hardware ;)06:04
sub[t]rnlvincent_➜ not sure why it isn't working, are you using gutsy?06:04
thomas_newbie__i installed php5 but I can't get PHP files to execute in browser with my APACHe server06:04
vincent_sub[t]rnl: i am, yeah, 7.10 yeh?06:05
ForgeAuswell for Linux its generally ext306:05
* sub[t]rnl nods06:05
ForgeAusespecially for kubuntu :)06:05
ian__So I noticed... is there a way to read the ext3 FS from windows? or is NTFS incapable of it?06:05
ForgeAussome Linux's use other types like riser, xfs and stuff...06:06
ian__*takes notes for future research06:06
vincent_its saying it is missing or has been obsoleted.. is there a way to manually download it?06:06
ForgeAusyes there is a way but its not NTFS that does it06:06
sub[t]rnl!info libxine1-ffmpeg06:06
ubotulibxine1-ffmpeg (source: xine-lib): mpeg related plugins for libxine1. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 435 kB, installed size 908 kB06:06
ian__ahh I see06:06
ForgeAuswindows has such a thing as an installable file system driver called EXT2IFS06:06
ian__installable?06:07
ForgeAuswhich allows you to use your EXT3 disk as if it were a native windows drive06:07
ian__ohhhh I see!06:07
ForgeAusyes installable, its just a program (software driver actually)06:07
ian__wow thats cool06:07
ian__never heard of that06:07
ForgeAusthe thing is ian I don't recommend doing lots to it under windows... tread lightly...06:07
ForgeAusits one of them06:07
ForgeAus!worksforme06:07
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/06:07
ForgeAuskinda things06:07
ian__ahhh yeah...06:08
ForgeAusbut it will certainly give you access to read (and write) files to your kubuntu partition06:08
ian__For sure... might be good to have for "just in case" purposes...06:08
ForgeAusyou just assign it a drive letter and from there it pretty much works as just another hard disk06:08
ian__I'll research it anyways, I appreciate the insight (whole reason im her ein irc is to learn so this is good)06:09
ian__ok06:09
ForgeAus(note, programs from there are unlikely to work in windows and text files have some differences in "formatting"...06:09
vincent_sub[t]rnl: just to clarify : sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg06:09
ian__I see... makes sence to me06:09
vincent_thats exactly what im putting in?06:09
ian__well its late and I've got an early morning so night all!06:13
vincent_mm im off too, thanks for everyones help, i might just format this thing ;)06:14
bazhangbye vincent_ good luck :}06:15
vincent_i have a feeling im going to need it :)06:15
bazhangnah youll be back here in no time oh..wait06:17
seba_hellou06:32
CruCioIndygunfreak ?06:39
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se7enDr_willis: you wrote yesterday that you would test mint ... did you and how do you like it?07:11
jussi01hmmm, does anyone know how to get clickable links in irssi? or if its even possible?07:17
CruCioHow am i suppose to know what mt architecture is ?07:17
CruCiomy*07:17
jussi01CruCio: whats you pc specs?07:18
Firefishewell, you're using either Intel, AMD, or what-have-you07:18
FirefisheIBM-compatible, plus the processor type07:18
Firefisheor mac, etc.07:19
ardchoillejussi01: What I did was setup Klipper (clipboard tool, icon in the tray), then hilight a url in irssi, right click the hilight and choose "Copy", if you setup klipper correctly, the klipper popup will engage asking you what you want to do with the url.. one of the default choices is "Open with konqueror" but you can add Actions in klipper's config07:21
ardchoillejussi01: That's the closest I've been able to get to "clickable url's"07:22
jussi01ardchoille: ahh, k. thanks07:26
Richard_Ballsjoin #ubuntu07:27
ardchoillejussi01: yw07:30
ardchoillejussi01: Actually, klipper will also kick in when you hilight a url from any app07:30
ardchoilles/hilight/copy/07:30
unix_infidelanyone know how to search geotags in flickr?07:33
blizzzekhi07:34
Richard_BallsI messed around with xorg.conf and now when I start X I get a blank screen.  How can I restore it from recovery mode?07:34
CruCioanybody got java to work on ps3 ?07:35
jussi01Richard_Balls: Could you please change to a more appropriate nick. Thanks.07:35
Richard_Ballsthis is my name..07:35
reverend_joshuawhen i try to open adept i get a dialog box that says "su returns with an error"07:36
reverend_joshuahave i already broken something?07:36
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midi3dI keep getting close to 100% processor usage when running amarok. After closing amarokapp remains running, still near 100% usage07:42
jussi01Richard_Balls: Please change it as its not suitable for this channel. (Regardless)07:42
jussi01reverend_joshua: kde3 or kde4?07:43
reverend_joshuakde307:43
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reverend_joshuawait07:44
reverend_joshuai was thinking of something else07:44
reverend_joshuai'm using ubuntu 6.06, but i don't know if it's kde3 or kde407:44
jussi01reverend_joshua: ubuntu or kubuntu?07:44
reverend_joshuaer07:44
reverend_joshuakubuntu07:44
jussi01:)07:45
reverend_joshuawow, this stuff is already breaking my brain07:45
reverend_joshuait's late, too07:45
jussi01reverend_joshua: go sleep on it. much better in the morning, also, not a huge amount of helpers around atm.07:45
reverend_joshuaaight07:46
reverend_joshuathanks07:46
midi3dsorry, I'm new to irc. Is my question poorly formed?07:49
jussi01!night | midi3d07:52
ubotumidi3d: It's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds.  This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question.  Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake.  This is particularly true in the quieter channels.07:52
midi3dthanks. will try the forums perhaps or again tomorrow.07:53
jussi01midi3d: your question is fine, just I dont know the answer, and it seems no one else who is here does either07:53
TheWhiteRookis there a way to get compiz working in KDE 3.5 if, when I type "compiz --replace" in the Konsole, it tells me it can't find xgl, no whitelist driver found, and no /usr/bin/metacity found07:53
TheWhiteRookand then exits?07:53
Jucato!compiz07:54
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion07:54
TheWhiteRookthanx07:54
se7en_!grub07:54
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:54
midi3dwhere can I find irc documentation? More specifically, what are the "!program" commands?07:57
jussi01!bot07:57
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:57
jussi01midi3d: ^07:57
midi3djussi01: thanks!07:57
TheWhiteRookmmm... compiz still doesn't work after following the instructions.08:01
TheWhiteRookstill gives me the same thing08:01
jussi01TheWhiteRook: whats you gfx hardware? it may be that you have an incopatible card08:06
appelzahow would i mount / extract this image: 20080110.img: x86 boot sector, LInux i386 boot LOader, extended partition table (last)\01108:12
* ForgeAus shudders08:12
ForgeAuswell I guess you could always rawrite it, as long as nothing on the space your rawriting it to! lol08:13
midi3d!botsnack08:15
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!08:15
Zombocomguys08:19
Zombocomctrl+alt+backspace does nothing08:19
Zombocomwhat do I do08:19
jussi01!botabuse > midi3d08:19
jussi01Zombocom: use logout?08:19
Zombocomlol08:19
ZombocomI was trying to see how many people would logout trying to see what it does08:20
ZombocomI was messing around08:20
Zombocomkick me if you like it's the only time I'll do it here08:20
jussi01Zombocom: please dont08:20
joenethow can i connect to hotspot named "PGSD" using my Kubuntu 7.1008:20
jussi01!ettiquette08:20
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ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/08:20
joenetcan some1 help me?08:21
jussi01joenet: right click on the netwoerk thing in the taskbar, it should be listed08:21
jussi01!patience < joenet08:21
jussi01!patience | joenet08:22
ubotujoenet: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:22
joenetif using iwconfig?08:23
soroushi use ubuntu now and i want to have kde installed on it too. which package should i install?08:27
ForgeAussoroush08:29
ForgeAusgo into synaptic and add the kubuntu-desktop package08:29
ForgeAusand voila you have kubuntu :)08:29
soroushthanks, forgeAus08:29
ForgeAus(theres a list of packages you can remove if you don't want the gnome stuff too... )08:29
ForgeAustheres a similar story for xubuntu, you can use the xubuntu-desktop package08:30
ForgeAusnote: Kubuntu uses Adept instead of Synaptic08:30
ForgeAus(although synaptic will still work if you keep it)08:31
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soroushForgeAus, thanks a lot. I'm instaling it08:32
runlevelten!adeptfix08:33
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »08:33
ForgeAusoh I fixed my adept long ago its now my network that went down :)08:34
ForgeAus(if only I were only kidding)08:34
kristjan_with what key do I quit "ping" in konsole?08:37
jussi01kristjan_: ctrl + c08:38
kristjan_jussi01: nice, what are most often used commands to test internet connection? tracepath, ping, ... ?08:39
Tm_Tping I suppose08:39
kristjan_what is the command line equivalent of me clicking on knetworkmanager "wired/wireless" connection?08:40
alesanany idea how do I clean print heads in my hp printer? In the printer setup thing, it seems only epson printers are supported.08:40
kristjan_ifconifg renew?08:40
alesanand: how do I enable the kprinter thing in firefox? otherwise it shows me a very poor dialog for printing, with no options etc08:41
sebastian^good morning folks08:52
jfrI have big problems when trying to install Bugzilla on Kubuntu, anyone care to take a look at my error message? :-)08:56
posingaspopular!paste | jfr08:58
ubotujfr: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:58
jfrhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52997/08:59
jfrthanks, posingaspopular08:59
vincent_Hello all!09:02
jfrNo ubuntu gurus that would like to help me with that? :-(09:02
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vincent_hello, anyone?09:11
emilsedgh!ask | vincent_09:11
ubotuvincent_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)09:11
vincent_ Well, i am running kubuntu.. but i run apt get, to try to update the package lists, it hangs when it tries to connect to archive.ubuntu.. my internet is only 256k, and im in australia, so is it possible to either 1) find a better connection, or 2) download everything i need without using apt-gets in built downloader?09:15
wilsonis it au.archive.ubuntu.com ?09:19
wilsonif it's not change it to that09:19
wilsonor a good mirror i use is ftp.netspace.net.au09:20
wilsoneg "deb http://ftp.netspace.net.au/pub/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted"09:20
vincent_wilson; you wont believe what happened.09:22
bogdanvrun roman pe aici ?09:22
wilsonyou wiped sources.list ?09:22
vincent_i changed sources.list, i removed the http:// from http://archive.. it corrupted it, then i re-opened and then added the http:// again, and now its all dandy.09:23
vincent_got bless linux09:23
vincent_thats been giving me problems for 3 days!09:23
vincent_not even a format fixed it, must be a problem with the cd09:23
vincent_thanks for the mirrors though wilson09:24
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corinthI have a mouse with forward/backward browser buttons. Is there a gui to configure them in Kubuntu?09:26
ppibburri made a livecd from a feisty debootstrap for i386 on a amd64 laptop, worked, ran it on a desktop and it fried. that normal?09:26
Lynoureppibburr: fried?09:29
Lynoureppibburr: no, it is not expected to cause hardware damage of any sort, though there is probably a disclaimer about that...09:30
ppibburryes the desktop went dead and will not powerp09:31
ppibburrsounded like the desktop was being over worked, why i am not exactly sure09:32
jfrCan someone please look at my error when installing bugzilla on kubuntu? It looks like a pretty common error, but I have no idea on how to solve it. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52997/09:34
val0Is the Nvidia driver offered on the nvidia website the best choice to go with? Nvidia 760009:43
Tm_Tval0: repositories09:43
Tm_T!nvidia | val009:43
ubotuval0: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:43
val0Tm_T thanks a lot!09:44
Lynoureppibburr: Even overworked CPUs normally cause just a shutdown, not deadness, so it really should not happen without some flaw in the hardware to start with09:46
lazybunzdoes anyone have this problem where keyboard suddenly stops working?09:48
lazybunzI can't seem to figure out what's causing it09:48
whyhankeelazybunz: only happens to me when i'm using Amarok on/from NFS09:49
vincent_Hey, anyone know an alternative to kopete? somehting that will let me use a msn messenger alternative?10:03
posingaspopularvincent_: pidgin10:04
posingaspopular!pidgin10:04
ubotupidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.010:04
vincent_thanks posingaspopular10:04
posingaspopularnp10:04
vincent_brilliant :d10:04
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vincent_sorry posingaspopular, is   pidgin-2.3.1.tar.bz2.asc   the one im after?10:08
vincent_its my first day..10:08
vincent_ahh nah i see it10:09
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Zero_PointHello.10:11
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Creative2:D10:14
Zero_PointI'm having a problem connecting to wireless networks in Gutsy (7.10)10:14
Creative2kind of wifi ?10:15
Creative2Zero_Point: ?10:16
val0!libc10:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:16
Zero_PointSorry, back.10:16
Zero_PointAnd could you be more specific?10:16
Zero_PointWhat do you mean by "kind of wifi"?10:16
Creative2Zero_Point: what kind of wifi have you ? usb pci ?10:17
Creative2!paste10:18
Creative2lol10:18
Zero_PointIt's a Linksys WUSB54GC. I've already got the drivers installed and the device appears to be functional, but it can't connect to the router.10:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:18
Creative2Zero_Point: :D like mine10:18
Zero_PointIt's set to WPA like it should be, and I've entered the pass-phrase, but it just refuses to connect.10:18
Creative2Zero_Point: have you installed it ? with ndiswrapper ?10:19
Zero_PointPretty much, yeah. Some special script someone whipped up that made it very painless.10:19
Creative2Zero_Point: ok plz write me if you can see access point with this command in a terminal10:20
Creative2Zero_Point: iwlist NAMEWIFI scan10:20
Creative2example iwlist wlan0 scan10:20
Zero_PointYep.10:21
Zero_PointI can see it in Wireless Assistant too.10:21
Zero_PointIt just will not connect to it.10:21
Creative2well done10:21
Creative2ok perfect10:21
Creative2it's only intefaces file issue10:21
Creative2Zero_Point: just a second10:21
val0Creative2 , Zero_Point : don't mean to interfere but could it be that your AP doesn't allow certain types of connections? MAC address for example?10:23
Zero_PointWhy wouldn't it?10:24
Creative2val0: no... it's only a question of  /etc/network/interfaces10:24
Creative2...10:24
val0Zero_Point because someone might have configured it to allow only certain known MAC addresses10:25
val0Creative2 oh ok10:25
Zero_PointThe router?10:25
Zero_PointDoubtful.10:25
val0Zero_Point just covering all the bases10:25
Zero_PointWe've reset it recently and gotten all the other machines in this house to connect just fine.10:25
anilHi10:25
anilHow to change my login screen ?10:25
Creative2Zero_Point: the problem is thsi : before ensure harddrive works ..then set configuration. yoiu have only a configuration problem10:26
anili am using kubuntu10:26
Zero_PointAnd how would I go about changing that?10:26
Creative2!wifi10:26
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:26
Creative2Zero_Point: you must set your wpa, it would be bettter wep..anyway10:27
val0Zero_Point so you can see your AP right? and you do everything correct but it doesn't asign you an IP?10:27
Creative2in intefaces file10:27
anilHi ... could you please help to change my login screen ...10:27
Zero_PointIt doesn't connect, period.10:27
Creative2Zero_Point: paste your interfaces file plz , use paste bin10:27
Creative2!paste10:27
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:27
Zero_PointPasting would be rather hard.10:27
val0Creative2 good idea10:28
Zero_PointI'm using my Vista laptop ATM, my Linux machine is seperate and, obviously, having connection issues.10:28
sebastian^vista laptop ... tz10:28
Creative2Zero_Point: use something to paste , a cd usb drive something10:28
val0Zero_Point ok when you say it doesn't connect how you know that you not connected? you can't reach a web page? you get a bad IP? of you get a message that you can't connect?10:29
borncrazyhi, i really need sme help. yesterday i was editing the fonts.conf file and this is how everything ended up: http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fontsht7.png i backed up the old fonts.conf file but as you see it's kind of impossible to read anything on my dekstop10:29
Zero_Pointval0, the answer is "yes".10:29
val0Zero_Point to which one of the two questions?10:30
Zero_PointYes to all of them.10:31
Creative2Zero_Point: open damned file /etc/network/intefaces10:31
Creative2xD10:31
val0Zero_Point what IP do you get? 127.0.0.0 or 169.x.x.x.? or what?10:31
sebastian^borncrazy: just c&p the name of the files and copy the old one with the console10:31
val0Creative2 you sound as frustrated as he is10:32
sebastian^borncrazy: or just use the rescue system10:32
Creative2val0: ..it's 10 minutes i repeat the same thing...10:32
val0Creative2 i feel for you... but i think a little TLC will solve everything10:33
val0Zero_Point so what IP do you have?10:33
Creative2val0: i leave to you the issue10:33
val0Zero_Point do you get your IP asigned by DHCP or static?10:34
val0Creative2 lol thanks, it's only 2:34 am where i am!10:34
Zero_PointDHCP10:34
Zero_PointAnd Creative2, sorry, I'm working on it.10:34
val0Zero_Point ok so what IP does it give you?10:34
Creative2val0: xD10:34
Zero_PointLast time NetworkManager actually loaded it was a 69.something adress.10:35
Zero_PointThe router assigns 192.168.1.100+10:35
val0Zero_Point ok so you get a bad ip from your AP correct? you should get 192.168.1.100+ but you get 69.x.x.x, right?10:36
Zero_PointThat's what Network manager reported when it actually worked.10:36
Zero_PointWhich it doesn't now, it doesn't do anything when I try to open it.10:36
val0Zero_Point so when you can't open at all NM?10:37
val0Zero_Point double/single click on it and nothing happens?10:37
Zero_PointNothing.10:37
Zero_PointAt all.10:37
val0Zero_Point ok...10:37
borncrazysebastian^: i can't copy it because i don't remember where i saved it10:38
Zero_PointIt's nice knowing how awesome Linux is supposed to be considering so far I've been doing nothing more than holding it's damned hand this whole time. -_-10:38
borncrazysebastian^: how do i use rescue system?10:38
val0Zero_Point yep and we are holding your hand while you are refusing to cooperate and help us help you :D so please be patient at least as much as we are towards you!10:39
Zero_PointI'm being very patient with you, it's Linux that's driving me nuts.10:39
Zero_PointAnd I'm cooperating to the best of my ability, it'd obviously be much easier if I could connect with my Linux machine, at which point this conversation would've never happened.10:40
Zero_PointAnd copy-pasting the file Creative requested left it all ass-tarded, so I'll just type it in manually.10:40
thomas__Zero_Point: having problems assigning right ip to your network card?10:40
Zero_Pointauto lo10:40
Zero_PointNo, wireless adapater's not connecting to the router.10:40
Zero_Point*adapter10:40
Zero_PointEven though it can see it.10:40
Zero_PointANYWAY.10:41
thomas__which wireless software are you useing?10:41
val0thomas__ he does't get an ip or gets in incorrect ip form the router10:41
thomas__Zero_Point: tried installing wicd ?10:41
Zero_PointWhat is that?10:41
val0thomas__ he just need to manual assign the ip address etc... and maybe see if that works... worked for me in the past10:41
thomas__Zero_Point: worked like a charm for me, as standard kde network tools worked like shit for me10:41
val0!wicd | Zero_Point10:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wicd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:42
Zero_PointThe script the guy included installed somethng called Wireless Assistant, which is less than helpful.10:42
Zero_PointIt's only assisted in helping me pull my hair out. >:/10:42
thomas__Zero_Point: open an text editor as root10:42
thomas__open /etc/apt/sources.list10:42
thomas__add this10:42
thomas__#WICD10:42
thomas__deb http://wicd.longren.org feisty extras10:42
thomas__save and clode10:43
thomas__close10:43
thomas__sudo apt-get update10:43
thomas__sudo apt-get install wicd10:43
thomas__then configure wlan with wicd10:43
ForgeAuswhat else goes in etc/apt?10:44
ForgeAusthats one bit I gotta fix10:44
thomas__thomas@linuxbook:~$ ls /etc/apt/10:44
thomas__apt.conf.d     sources.list.d            trustdb.gpg10:44
thomas__secring.gpg    sources.list.default      trusted.gpg10:44
thomas__sources.list   sources.list.distUpgrade  trusted.gpg~10:44
thomas__sources.list~  sources.list.save10:44
thomas__thomas@linuxbook:~$10:44
ForgeAusok10:44
thomas__Zero_Point: installing wicd going ok ?10:45
ForgeAusso mostly apt.conf, gpg's and sources.list (and backups/variants)10:45
thomas__ForgeAus: jep10:45
ForgeAuswish I could rebuild my /etc dir10:45
Zero_PointStill working on it.10:45
thomas__ForgeAus: why, whats the problem?10:45
ForgeAusas it is I"ve been guessing where most of the stuff I lost+found goes10:45
Zero_PointI'm pretty new to Linux so I'm still figuring out how to do all this crap as root, but I'm working on it now.10:45
ForgeAusI somehow managed to crash and rebooted with /etc as a file instead of a directory10:46
thomas__Zero_Point: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list10:46
ForgeAussome smart cookie told me to fsck10:46
wilsonForgeAus: ouch10:46
thomas__ForgeAus: hmm, how in hell did you do that?10:46
ForgeAusand it recovered lotsa stuff, only that its all in lost+found and all the files there I don't recognise because they're names are all numbers10:47
ForgeAusthomas if I knew I would have avoided doing it in the first place10:47
wilsoni'd backup what i can and start again ForgeAus10:47
Zero_PointI said I figured it out, and I'm on Gutsy, should I change Feisty to match that?10:47
borncrazySorry for asking again but i need to write some importnant  things and with these fonts i can't write a sh*t.10:47
borncrazyhttp://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fontsht7.png10:47
thomas__Zero_Point: no, works fine10:47
ForgeAusyes well backup is something I shuld have done beforehand, I'm naughty10:47
borncrazythis is how my fonts looks after i edited the fonts.conf :/10:47
ForgeAusyet more wasted HDD space :(10:47
thomas__borncrazy: lol10:48
Zero_PointIt would appear that connecting to the internet is required for your instructions to work, thomas.10:49
Zero_PointIn case you haven't heard, I can't do that on my Linux machine.10:49
thomas__Zero_Point: try with wired network?10:49
wilsonis this wireless you're trying to get working or just normal ethernet Zero_Point10:49
Zero_PointCan't reach the router from where I am.10:49
Zero_PointWireless.10:49
thomas__or manually download packages in windows, transfer them to linux machine10:49
Zero_PointEthernet works fine.10:49
Zero_PointI knew this thumbdrive would come in handy.10:50
wilsonhave you got the driver going ok , is this a laptop ?10:50
Zero_PointAlmost too handy. :/10:50
borncrazythomas__:10:50
Zero_PointIt's a desktop, and yes, the driver is working as far as I can tell. It sees the router, it tries to connect, but the connection fails.10:50
thomas__Zero_Point:10:51
thomas__http://wicd.longren.org/pool/gutsy/extras/wicd_1.3.1-all.deb10:51
ForgeAusfun video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liKV4Ij8LtU&eurl=http://www.hardocp.com/index.html (ok well I guess you could call it spamming, not that annoyance was my motive, just some humour...)10:51
borncrazyhttp://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=font2sjh3.png thomas__ look what happens when i try to runt gedit10:51
thomas__Zero_Point: on the other hand do try the gutsy package10:51
thomas__Zero_Point: didn't know they already had one10:51
mikeyhi10:52
mikeyis there any way to test my wireless card on kubuntu-kde4?10:52
mikeythe livecd, i mean10:52
thomas__borncrazy: I would suggest restoring your fonts.conf file10:53
thomas__Zero_Point: do you know how to manually install a .deb file?10:53
borncrazythomas__: how?10:53
Zero_PointAGAIN with the connection attempts!10:54
Zero_PointFriggen-A.10:54
ForgeAusborcrazy the font its trying to use has too many un-defined letters, thats why they're all boxes10:54
thomas__Zero_Point: ?10:54
borncrazycan anyone pastebin a valid fonts.conf please?10:54
Zero_PointTried installing the package, it's trying to connect.10:54
thomas__go to the url in windows10:54
borncrazyForgeAus: ah. How do i define them then?10:54
thomas__download the package10:54
Zero_PointI.10:54
Zero_PointDid.10:55
wilsonwhat kind of network is it ? WPA ?10:55
borncrazythomas__: i was there, nothing helpful10:55
Zero_PointWPA, yes.10:55
ForgeAusborncrazy you don't, you set it to choose a different font that has defined letters, preferably ones you can read :)10:55
Zero_PointAnd before you get onto me about how crappy it is, it isn't even my router.10:55
thomas__Zero_Point: and you transfered it to the linux machine?10:55
Zero_PointYes.10:55
thomas__ok then10:55
ForgeAusof course I'm sure theres some font creation software but you shouldn't need that10:55
thomas__cd /path/to/dir10:55
thomas__sudo dpkg -i wicd_1.3.1-all.deb10:56
borncrazythomas__: me?10:56
borncrazyi feel lost in the linux djungle10:56
ForgeAusthats something else I need to fix, network10:56
ForgeAusif I get that up all I need is apt to reinstall packages that don't work10:56
thomas__borncrazy: no, its for Zero_Point10:56
borncrazyoh okay10:56
ForgeAusthat should fix my /etc issue for me10:57
ForgeAus... eventually10:57
thomas__borncrazy: I don't know anything about fonts10:57
ForgeAusof course I am using edgy10:57
ForgeAusso probably LOTS of fixes10:57
borncrazy my i should write a topic on ubuntu forum10:57
ForgeAus!fonts10:58
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer10:58
ForgeAusI guess thats no help to you10:58
Zero_PointConflicting packages.10:58
ForgeAusinstead of installing new ones you want to fix the ones you got10:58
wilsoni dont know alot about wireless unfortunately, have you tried using iwconfig to connect ?10:58
thomas__Zero_Point: say YES if it want to remove packages10:58
Zero_PointIt doesn't even ask.10:59
Zero_PointIt just stops.10:59
ForgeAusoh I'm not worried about package conflicts I get them all the time, sofar found ways around each one too.. shomehow10:59
thomas__give me error msg10:59
borncrazyForgeAus: no no, because i totaly removed the old fonts.conf10:59
borncrazysorry for my english10:59
ForgeAusok borncrazy do you have the live cd?10:59
ForgeAusthere should be a copy of it there10:59
ForgeAusjust boot from it, mount your drive and copy to it?10:59
Zero_Pointwicd conflicts with network manager, netowrk manager is present and installed.10:59
thomas__borncrazy: where is the fonts.conf file stored on hd?10:59
ForgeAusyou might need to fix some of the paths in it or something11:00
thomas__Zero_Point: remove network manager11:00
Zero_PointAnd I thought Vista's UAC was annoying.11:00
thomas__and install wicd11:00
borncrazythomas__: /etc/fonts/fonts.conf i think11:00
borncrazyForgeAus: good idea11:00
ForgeAushehe thats ONE idea, not sure it will work11:00
ForgeAusbut it may be worth a shot11:00
ForgeAuseither that or use apt to reinstall the font package only that you can't read which package it is since you can't identify one line from the next unless you know how many chars are in it :)11:01
ForgeAus(which can be fun)11:01
thomas__borncrazy: http://www.doggyupload.com/uploads/fonts.conf11:01
borncrazylets wait and see :)11:01
ForgeAusor take thomas' nice contribution :)11:01
wilsonthis is complicated but may help http://www.varesano.net/blog/fabio/wpa+psk+linux+intel+centrino+ipw210011:01
wilsonyou can go full manual and just configure wpa supplicant11:02
ForgeAussometimes theres more than one way to skin a cat11:02
borncrazythomas__: thanks, i'll try and see if it works11:02
thomas__wilson: wicd has wpa encryption modules11:02
thomas__so no need for that11:02
thomas__wilson: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ read first page ;-)11:03
Zero_PointHow does one remove network manager? Apparently I don't have snyaptic installed.11:03
thomas__lol11:03
thomas__Zero_Point: sudo apt-get remove pachagename11:03
thomas__Zero_Point: sudo apt-get remove packagename11:03
bazhangor use adept_manager11:04
thomas__bazhang: I say, shell for life ^^11:04
borncrazyreboot11:04
bazhangthomas__: well there is that :}11:04
bazhangno though newcomers may not like it :{11:05
thomas__bazhang: then they should stay away from linux11:05
thomas__:p11:05
thomas__nah, didn't say that11:05
bazhanghaha there are logs on these channels..11:05
Zero_PointI'm only trying it 'cause Linux nuts wouldnt' stop praising it.11:05
Zero_PointI thought "Hey, I feel masochistic today, why not?"11:05
Zero_PointAnd now, here I am, talking with you fellows.11:05
bazhangwowzor11:06
Zero_PointI find the lack of modem support quite disheartening as well.11:06
thomas__Zero_Point: If you were thinking I will understand linux in about 5 min, think again, you'll need at least a month and a couple of broken installations before you start figuring out how it all works11:06
Zero_PointI knew that going into it.11:06
Zero_PointI just didn't expect Linux to be so... "Helpful".11:07
thomas__Zero_Point: medem supprot is fine, just the wirekess drivers arn't all that11:07
wilsontypically alot of new users seem to have trouble with getting wireless going11:07
Zero_PointDoesn't support my modem apparantley.11:07
wilsonbut its usually because their card/chipset isn't very well supported11:07
borncrazydidn't work :/11:07
bazhangespecially the breakage, and then you have an 'aha' moment and then things get easier just a bit :}11:07
thomas__Zero_Point: your modem doesn't need supprot11:07
Zero_PointI've tried, I've practiced the google-fu, nothin'.11:07
thomas__anyway I'm off11:08
bazhangcya11:08
wilsonwhat kind of modem ? adsl ?11:08
Zero_PointGod-dammit.11:09
Zero_PointNow it appears I need python-glade2.11:09
Zero_PointDial-up.11:09
bazhangdialup modem11:09
thomas__Zero_Point: I would strongly suggest getting hold of a wired line to get all the dependencies solved11:10
Zero_PointIf only I could connect by LAN-ing through this laptop, but that also ended in spectacular failure.11:11
thomas__Zero_Point: try a bridged connection11:12
Zero_PointThe ONE thing I didn't try, thanks.11:12
thomas__being a little less sarcastic would help you, people would ACCTUALY (woow I got caps to) try to help you11:13
Zero_PointI know, I was saying that that's literally the one thing I didn't try when I tried connecting these two.11:14
thomas__lol11:14
thomas__ok11:14
Zero_PointGod, I hate Vista.11:14
thomas__lol11:14
thomas__vista11:14
ForgeAusme 211:14
thomas__man, what do you expect11:14
Zero_PointWith XP, you right-clicked, clicked some more tabs, then "Bridge connections".11:14
Zero_PointBut oh no, not with Vista. Let's name it something else and make it all cryptic, shall we?11:15
ForgeAusor bury it under so many steps its not funny11:15
Zero_PointThat too.11:15
matthewb!swe11:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about swe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:16
Tm_T!se | matthewb11:16
ubotumatthewb: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se11:16
matthewbswedish anyone?11:16
ActionParsniphello all11:17
Tm_Tmatthewb: perhaps11:17
Tm_TActionParsnip: hail! :))11:17
matthewbneed help with wine11:17
Tm_T!wine | matthewb11:17
ubotumatthewb: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.11:17
Tm_Tmatthewb: if more needed, just ask :)11:18
Creative2Zero_Point i hav your same wifi card..xD11:18
Creative2ups11:18
Creative2sorry11:18
matthewbTm_T: I am new with kubuntu and Im tired in windows11:19
matthewb:P11:19
Tm_Tmatthewb: there's lots of you :)11:19
matthewb:D11:19
Tm_Tmatthewb: just ask what exactly you need to know, by giving explanation :)11:20
Zero_PointWell, hopefully now that the Linux machine has a connection, I can probably take it from here. Thanks for all the help guys.11:21
matthewbmy adept-manager dosent work when I tried to install synaptic and synaptic doesent starts its giving me errors11:21
matthewbit krasches all the time11:22
ActionParsnipmatthewb, what messages do you get when it crashes?11:23
matthewbin adept or in synaptic?11:24
matthewbE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.11:24
matthewbE: _cache->open() failed, please report.11:24
ActionParsnipmatthewb, close all the apps to do with updates etc and run sudo dpkg --configure -a in a console11:26
hassehey, anyone know how to disable caps lock for good ?11:26
wilsonsudo dpkg --configure -a11:27
Zero_PointThanks thomas_, it finally connected!11:27
matthewbActionParsnip: where can i find the console?11:27
ActionParsnipkde menu -> system11:27
wilsonit's called konsole matthewb11:28
matthewb:P11:28
wilsonhehe11:28
matthewbit works :D11:30
matthewbthnx so mutch11:30
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corinthIs there a package in the kde4 repository that adds more plasmoids?11:32
Tm_Tyes11:32
corinthWhat is it?11:32
Tm_Textragear-plasma or something like that11:32
corinthThanks :-)11:32
ForgeAuswow AndLinux is basically a Kubuntu for Windows11:32
ActionParsnipmatthewb, np dude11:32
ForgeAus(integrates into desktop even!)11:33
Tm_Tuse the search, padawan corinth11:33
ActionParsnipForgeAus, how do you mean???11:33
corinthPsh, I'm a Jedi Master, foo. :-P11:33
Tm_Tcorinth: not here11:33
ForgeAusa virtualizer + kubuntu itself are better of course11:33
corinthI'm using the pacakage manager atm, just wanted to know if I should bother searching ;-)11:33
ForgeAuswell andlinux has a notification icon that is its kmenu11:33
ForgeAus(configurable)11:33
ForgeAusand it runs apps in their own window11:34
ForgeAuseven has explorer shell extensions for stuff like Open in Kate11:34
Slasher`hey, i just upgraded to KDE4 and its really nice, I like it :D however one question, is there any way to change the font size in xchat cause its gone really small for some reason in KDE411:34
ForgeAusit uses CoLinux11:34
tuxickscolinux11:35
ForgeAusand runs it as a pretty much complete Ubuntu install11:35
ForgeAus(the kde vers is 800 mb tho11:35
ForgeAus(xfce one is minimal)11:35
ForgeAusonly 194mb for that11:35
ForgeAus800 mb is huge but I like the cohesion11:36
ForgeAusits something you don't get with most other linux under windows solutions11:36
ActionParsnipForgeAus, so you can run Linux apps under Windows? I just looked at some sites and I dont get it11:37
ForgeAusAction not exactly11:38
ForgeAusyou run a linux subsystem, all Andlinux (using colinux) does is put that app in a window11:38
ForgeAusyou actually have a fully functional linux system, so its an actual linux app running in linux in a windows window...11:38
ForgeAusits in german but here is a screenshot showing some of the cohesion: http://www.joachim-gehweiler.de/images/software/andlinux.png11:39
llutzForgeAus: but isn't it f*ng slow with X-apps running?11:39
ActionParsnipForgeAus, why not just run linux then?11:39
ForgeAusthe firefox from andlinux is alomst identical to the windows one11:39
ActionParsnipForgeAus, it is identical11:39
ForgeAusyou could if you wanted to use wine to run your windows apps...11:40
ForgeAusllutz probably I don't know how it does or if it even does X...11:40
ForgeAusI don't think the apps are unusably slow tho11:40
ActionParsnipForgeAus, I dont run windows apps :)11:41
ActionParsnipForgeAus, but I get it now11:41
ForgeAuswell I do like many windows apps... this just gives me yet another way of running linux within windows11:42
ActionParsnipForgeAus, personally I'd rather run an open operating system and use cedega if i have to run win32 apps11:42
ForgeAusouch cedega?... hmmm guess it depends on the app your running...11:42
llutzfor what i'm missing when using XP, i just use gnuwin3211:43
ActionParsnipnone but if i had to i'd use it11:43
corinthHas anyone tried the tech preview of Amarok 2? Is it any good?11:48
mauwhats the difference between smbfs and cifs? which one should i use?11:49
eagles0513875hey guys im able to boot onto the live cd but for some reason when it comes to me manually creating partitions my system locks up on me11:53
eagles0513875AmyRose u have any idea why thats happening to me11:54
eagles0513875any idea why thats happening guys11:54
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, can we have a pastebin of your fdisk -l11:54
eagles0513875ActionParsnip im on a windows irc client11:55
eagles0513875i have noticed when im looking at whats booting up the vry first thing i see is bios bug #81 what does that mean11:55
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shoaibiHi! I wanna ask with the default installation of Kubuntu dont i get two accounts like one for custom, and one as "root" like i get in ubuntu?11:55
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, did you leave free s[ace for Linux to install11:55
eagles0513875ActionParsnip i had a recovery partition which i burned to cd which is 8gb11:56
eagles05138758.5gb to be exact11:56
posingaspopularshoaibi: you get that, but im not sure what your asking11:56
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, is it unpartitioned? this can help sometimes11:56
posingaspopularyou get a user account, and then a root account for super priviledges11:56
eagles0513875ActionParsnip yes it is since i just deleted the partition from windows11:57
posingaspopularthat is a default linux system configuration as far as i know shoaibi11:57
shoaibiposingaspopular: Listen, i installed kubuntu 7.10, and after the installation, i went to the user management, click the admin mode, and all i see is just my account, no root account, it even let me create an account with the username as root, strange, isn't it?11:57
eagles0513875ActionParsnip could my laptop being a tablet pc have anything to do with it11:57
ActionParsnipshoaibi, no as Ubuntu doesnt have a root account. You get your admin power using sudo11:58
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, it may need some modules for the hard drive but i doubt it11:58
posingaspopularyes as ActionParsnip said. you activate the root privilidges by using sudo, it's not a seperate account.11:58
shoaibiActionParsnip: with the default installation of Ubuntu, 2 accounts are created, 1 for which you fillin info,a nd second is root11:58
shoaibiposingaspopular: in ubuntu root is present as a separate account with default installation11:59
shoaibiposingaspopular: in kubuntu as i see, its not....11:59
eagles0513875shoaibi i think its hidden some how u have to click on a box to be able to see all accounts on the machine11:59
ActionParsnipshoaibi, my system only has my account.Ive never seen a root account. If you need admin access use sudo / kdesu11:59
MGalaxyhow to force APPs to use AntiAliasing : SEE http://i27.tinypic.com/2cdzpcx.png11:59
ActionParsnipshoaibi, sudo for CLI commands (apt-get, cp, mv etc) and kdesu for gui apps (kate etc)12:00
eagles0513875ActionParsnip any idea to why when i come to setup swap and all that manually it locks up on me12:00
shoaibiActionParsnip: that i know brother, but just found it strange that it even let me create an account with the username as root...12:00
posingaspopularoh you're right shoaibi now that i think about it. hmm i wonder why that is.12:00
shoaibiActionParsnip: plus from Ubuntu 5.04+ as i remember two accounts exists as soon as the installation completes...12:00
Slasher`hey, i just upgraded to KDE4 and its really nice, I like it :D however one question, is there any way to change the font size in xchat cause its gone really small for some reason in KDE412:00
posingaspopularive never really considered the question.12:00
posingaspopularSlasher`: that should be in your xchat configuration12:01
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, try using default install (?)12:01
eagles0513875ActionParsnip thing is i dont wanna get rid of my winblows partition12:01
Slasher`posingaspopular, it's fine in the old KDE and in gnome just in kde4 it goes tiny lol12:01
shoaibiposingaspopular: i was surprised coz that against the Linux normal convention, i tasted so many distros, but this the first distro that "Let me create root account" :P12:01
posingaspopularlook for system or settings or prefrences, im not too sure about xchat myself, but it should be easy.12:01
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, theres an option to use unpartitioned space which you should use12:01
eagles0513875know my previous record with my last laptop getting games to work on linux was a night mare im afraid the same thing will happen12:01
Slasher`ah never mind you were correct it is in the xchat config12:02
Slasher`doh12:02
Slasher`lol12:02
ActionParsnipshoaibi, afaik, ubuntu has no root account. It can be created. Its not necessary due to sudo / kdesu12:02
Slasher`thanks12:02
eagles0513875ok ill try that now. u think i should be able to play games on my 6150 geforce go12:02
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, sounds fine. Unpartition the space for kubuntu and the installer wil see it and offer to use it12:04
shoaibi_sorry, got dc, posingaspopular, ActionParsnip, did i miss something related to my question?12:04
ActionParsnipjust saying you dont need a root account due to sudo / kdesu12:05
ActionParsnipshoaibi, you can even do sudo - and the konsole will run as root (not advised)12:06
ActionParsnip"sudo -"12:06
shoaibi_ActionParsnip: yup, thats correct, just found a strange fact that there is this distro which doesnt have any root :P12:06
eagles0513875sudo =root12:06
eagles0513875cant u also enable root12:06
eagles0513875which is not advised12:06
ActionParsnipshoaibi, true. I found it odd at first. I came over from Mandriva.12:06
shoaibi_ActionParsnip: i came from Ubuntu :P12:07
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, you can create the account but its not necessary12:07
shoaibi_okay, wont make it a chitchat channel, everyone continue.... :P :D12:07
matthewbNeed help to install steam. Have got steamInstall.exe12:07
ActionParsnipmatthewb, have you googled?12:07
matthewbyes12:07
eagles0513875shoaibi i know kubuntu is the distro i use now none other.12:07
eagles0513875well here goes nothing im goign to try get it installed on here12:08
matthewbdoesent understanding12:08
shoaibi_ActionParsnip: funny fact, i can "finger" root, the account exists but not shown in user administration :D12:08
matthewbwich programe do I need to install steaminstall.exe12:09
ActionParsnipmatthewb, that took me not very long12:09
ActionParsnipa minute12:09
ActionParsnipmatthewb, http://linux.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/wine-gaming-steam-half-life-half-life-2-counter-strike-source-and-16/12:09
ActionParsnip!wine | matthewb12:09
ubotumatthewb: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.12:09
Slasher`.12:10
ibouhi12:11
shoaibi_ActionParsnip: also /etc/passwd tells that root does exist,now looking to how to change password of root...12:11
shoaibi_ActionParsnip: strange is this that if root exists in so many places, why the user administration of KDE is so dumn that it let me create another user with the name as root?12:12
ActionParsnipshoaibi, http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/21/ubuntu-how-to-enable-the-root-account/12:13
ActionParsnipshoaibi, no idea man. Ive never created one.12:14
shoaibi_ActionParsnip: checking......12:14
ActionParsnipshoaibi, maybe stdin knows ;)12:14
shoaibi_ActionParsnip: Well i think i gotta tell it to the bugs.KDE.org i guess, or is it in kubuntu? its been years that i never touched a KDE distro12:15
ActionParsnipUbuntu does not need a root account. You can do it all with sudo / kdesu. Its not a bug as you can run anything with admin priveledges using the password you logged in with12:15
shoaibi_ActionParsnip: another fact, install ubuntu, dont update, and it wont let you set a password with < 6chars, but kubuntu does :D12:16
ActionParsnipshoaibi, thats unique to that distribution then12:16
simion314_    hi, i use katapult to launch application but i am searching for something better? does anyone use other application launchers?12:16
ActionParsnipsimion314_, konsole (?)12:16
shoaibi_ActionParsnip: but letting a user being created with the username root, while /etc/passwd has a root is a bug, there becomes two root in passwd...12:16
mitch_Plasma crashed, I think. Now my panel is missing, how do I restart it?12:17
ForgeAus!kicker12:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:17
ForgeAuslol oh well it isn't called kicker in KDE4 anyway12:18
ForgeAusthought ubotu might have known12:18
simion314_ActionParsnip: no is a open source application but for windows, you can launch application, your own commands , search on google, wikipedia youtube send email, something like that12:18
ActionParsnipshoaibi, go log it then but you'll get a load of people telling you what i'm telling you. root is not required at all12:18
ForgeAusSimion depends on what you mean by launcher... theres stuff like macosx docking apps (kxdock?).. one is called cairodock or something like that from berlios...12:19
ubuntuHobbsee: hey long time no c12:19
ForgeAusI find them nice apps to use they kinda work as launcher/panel replacements tho12:19
shoaibi_ActionParsnip: i understand, i really do. But tell me what will the system do when i try to login with root, while there are two root in /etc/passwd?12:20
Hobbseehi12:20
ubuntuActionParsnip: im on the live cd. for me to get on it seems i have to turn of acpi and dma12:20
ubuntuHobbsee: j/w r there known compatibility issues with kubuntu and a tablet pc12:20
Hobbseeno idea12:20
ActionParsnipshoaibi, well you'll be running all apps with root access which is a HUGE security risk12:21
mitch_No idea what the kde kicker is called?12:21
ActionParsnipshoaibi, I really have no idea, its not something Ive done12:21
Davieymitch_: called "kicker" :)12:21
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ForgeAusDaviey it used to be12:21
ForgeAusbut I think it got renamed in KDE412:21
Davieyahh, sorry12:21
ForgeAusI think its still starts with kick, but not sure what its called...12:22
noaXess!backup12:22
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning12:22
ActionParsnipmitch_, why not run everything from konsole instead.Every app can be ran from there12:23
Slasher`erm, i kinda messed up again and removed the task manager that shows all the windows minemised from the taskbar thingy and the clock and quick launch have all bunched up to the right, is there any way i can get the task manager back12:23
mitch_ActionParsnip: Because I prefer the kicker.12:25
ActionParsnipSlasher: right click taskbar -> add item -> task manager12:25
Slasher`it won't right click in the blank space for some reason12:25
ActionParsnipmitch_, ok cool. Its not something Ive looked into12:25
Slasher`i'm on KDE4 if that makes a difference?12:25
mitch_I know I can "fix" it by deleting the .kde4 folder contents, but I don't want to have to :-/12:25
ActionParsnipSlasher`, me too. that should sort you out. It might be application catcher12:26
Slasher`ActionParsnip: i can't even bring up a menu by right clicking the taskbar though which is strange :/12:26
ActionParsnipSlasher`, you got it?12:26
Slasher`nope :(12:26
ActionParsniphow about the widget thingy in top right12:27
Slasher`add widgets?12:27
Slasher`there's a task manager widget in there but it doesn't work :/12:28
ActionParsniphmmm12:28
piourHello12:29
Slasher`brb i got an idea12:29
ActionParsnipSlasher`, drag it to the taskbar12:29
ActionParsnipjust worked for me12:29
piourno one know Squid tuto ?12:29
belmefehi I'm trying to install the last version of ultrastar-ng but Im having trouble with some boost headers, and I haven been able to start using the version that comes in the repository.12:29
ForgeAusmitch the #KDE people may be able to help you better12:30
Slasher`sweet nice one ActionParsnip thanks12:30
Slasher`just need to get the clock back to the right hand corner now12:30
piourno one know Squid tuto ?12:30
ActionParsnippiour, there are loads online12:31
piouroh yeah but they are ugly ;s12:31
piourso thx i'll go lunch12:31
ActionParsnipSlasher`, drag widget digital clock12:31
Slasher`got it thanks :D12:32
ActionParsnipSlasher`, np dude12:32
Slasher`this KDE4 is awesome12:33
mikeyis there any way to test my wireless card on kubuntu-kde4-livecd?12:33
ActionParsnipmikey, what wireless card do you have?12:34
ForgeAusmikey only if you want cancer lol :)... (kidding)... I don't really know12:34
mikeyActionParsnip, i actually don't know right now, didn't write it down whiel i was booted in windows12:34
Slasher`mikey: it's a laptop, correct?12:35
mikeyit's a dell xps, probably broadcom i think12:35
ActionParsnipmikey, can you give us a pastebin of the output of lspci12:35
mikeysure, let me go over to the dc where i have the machine up.12:35
* ActionParsnip hmms thinking he'll need remoable media to transfer12:36
anton_Anyone as want to help me how to install my VIA drivers to my Grafic-card? Last time I used Kubuntu i wrote someting in the terminal, then it work'd. Any of you as now what i wrote?12:37
mikeyhey there it is12:37
ActionParsnipanton_, what via graphics do you have?12:37
mikeybroadcom bcm94311MCG mini-pci12:37
anton_VIA unichrome pro12:37
mikey0c:00.012:38
mikeyso if lspci knows it, that means the kernel recognizes it right?12:38
ActionParsnipanton_, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-636368.html12:38
mikeybrb, work to do for a bit12:38
anton_Thank you!12:38
ActionParsnipmikey, thats just an output of your hardware. What make is the chip on your wireless? Is it broadcom as you said?12:39
anton_I dont now what version my Grafic-card is exactly, can i use another driver for a VIA unichrome pro card12:41
ActionParsnipanton_, does lspci tell you12:41
anton_lspci?12:41
ForgeAusits a program that scans your devices12:42
ActionParsnipanton_, run it in cosole and paste it to the pastebin12:42
anton_Ok12:42
anton_http://pastebin.com/d343aa86d12:43
ActionParsnipanton_, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA A                              dapter (rev 01)12:44
ActionParsnipanton_, its already installed12:45
ActionParsnipanton_, do you have a low resolution by any chance12:45
anton_Ye, ive got a low resolution right now, bcs kubuntu wont start else12:45
ActionParsnipanton_, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:46
ActionParsnipanton_, change nothing except thepart where you add resolutions12:46
mikeyActionParsnip, <mikey> broadcom bcm94311MCG mini-pci12:46
ActionParsnipmikey, http://invaleed.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/install-bcm94311mcg-wlan-mini-pci-ubuntu-710/12:47
anton_Okay, can I cange it in xorg.conf?12:47
ActionParsnipanton_, if you are comfortable doing it manually, yes. the command I sent you gives you a gui to it12:48
anton_I've got my xorg.conf file as i used before, i can just use that instead of my xorg.conf i've now?12:49
anton_I'll try that12:50
ActionParsnipbet he borks his xorg.conf12:55
ubuntu:)13:00
ubuntuActionParsnip: hey thanks for helping me with the issue that i was having13:00
ubuntucan anyone explain to me why i have to end up turning dma pnpbios and acpi off just to get onto the live cd13:01
ubuntuthis laptop isnt even a month old13:01
ActionParsnipubuntu, check the settings in your laptops bios13:03
ubuntuActionParsnip: i was able to get it installed now and i wasnt able to find any apci setting in my bios13:03
ubuntuill brb let me get off the live cd13:03
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: everything is up and running ty for ur help13:08
vbgunzis it possible to color the user@station:~/ line in konsole?13:08
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, how did I help again? I forget13:08
eagles0513875lol13:08
eagles0513875i was having the issue with the manual locking up on me when creating partitions13:09
eagles0513875i uses the guided one for the largest amount of free space13:09
ActionParsnipvbgunz, do you want to change it to different colours or just the font colour to one colour (e.g grey to red)13:09
eagles0513875i was afraid to try taht cuz i thought it would have erased my windows partition13:09
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, oh yeah. sweet :D13:09
eagles0513875everything is up and running i just need to figure out why when booting to live cd i need to turn off dma apci and pnpbios13:09
vbgunzjust change the user@station:~/ to another color... this way, scrolling back through current history and output is easier13:10
eagles0513875i might need to flash my bios dunno13:10
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, is your bios set up ok?13:10
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: default bios that came with the notebook from hp nothings been changed13:10
ActionParsnipvbgunz, so like the prompt is one colour and the output is another13:10
vbgunzyes13:10
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, i'd check in there first13:10
Beanosbig problems! I am running in recovery mode. My keyboard will NOT work in x under normal boot13:10
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: what do i check for13:11
BeanosI have checked my xorg,conf file and all is well13:11
eagles0513875Beanos: did u do an upgrade from an earlier release13:11
ActionParsnipvbgunz, xterm might be good. It has good colourings by default13:11
BeanosWhat I did last was patch and re-install wine so I could play COD4 (which worked I might add) Then when I logged out, no more keyboard13:12
vbgunzam using Yakuake and bash13:12
nosrednaekimBeanos: even after a rebot?13:12
BeanosI have rebooted13:12
eagles0513875now i found another problem13:12
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: i have no audio what so ever13:13
BeanosI can log in but when in X no keyboard not even num loc13:13
nosrednaekimBeanos: without a keyboard, its awful hard to fid the problem =) is it just a normal PS2 one?13:13
BeanosIts a laptop13:13
nosrednaekimoh.... even worse...13:13
BeanosI am on the same machine now in recovery mode13:13
eagles0513875beanos did u update the repos and do a cdless upgrade from a previous version of kubuntu13:14
nosrednaekimBeanos: ah..ok13:14
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, what audio card do you have?13:14
eagles0513875seems like its part of the nvidia chipset13:14
eagles0513875its an hd audio one give me a min13:14
Beanosthe kubuntu was completely updated. All was running smoothly. I wanted to play COD4, so I ended up downloading wine src and patching it with diffs and compiling and installing it13:15
eagles0513875what im saying is did u have a previous version of it on here then updated by changing the repos and doing a full dist upgrade13:15
nosrednaekimBeanos: are you in X, or on the command line?13:15
Beanosgame played well enough, then when I exited, no more keyboard13:15
BeanosI am in x in recovery mode13:15
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: according to lspci its an mcp51 high def audio13:16
Beanosrecovery mode x works  fine13:16
Beanoswhen I boot to the normal kernal its screwed13:16
Beanoscommand line keyboard works fine13:16
eagles0513875if u did a complete dist-upgrade without a reinstall to latest version its goign to be buggy13:16
Beanosthe log in to x screen keyboard works fine as well13:16
eagles0513875Beanos: what kinda laptop is it13:17
Beanossoon as I am in X no keyboard no cap lock no num lock no nothing13:17
nosrednaekimBeanos: ah, ok.... if you are in X, does "ctrl+alt+f2" get you to a command line?13:17
BeanosSager (basicaly an Alien Ware)13:17
Beanosnosrednaekim I'll have to check that13:18
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: i switched it to alsa in the setting tab im waiting for it to restart the audio server13:18
BeanosI can open windows such as term etc, with the mouse, just no keyboard imput at all13:18
sigmais there no kde version of inkscape? i see the one in the repo's has been designed for gnome13:18
nosrednaekimBeanos: if you can, we can grab the xorg log13:18
eagles0513875sigma: u can still use it on kde13:19
nosrednaekimBeanos: there is a on-screen keyboard too..13:19
Beanosonscreen keyboard?13:19
Beanoslet me grab ythe log now13:19
nosrednaekimBeanos: one that you click with the mouse13:19
sigmayeah i know i can but i dont want to install all those gnome dependencies, is there anyway around it?13:19
eagles0513875sigma: not really no13:19
eagles0513875unless u install gnome desktop13:20
nosrednaekimsigma: Karbon14 is supposed to the kde version, but inkscape is far better13:20
Beanoslet me  guess, you need to be able to load it?13:20
nosrednaekimBeanos: load what?13:20
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: im goign to restart13:20
Beanosthe onscreen keyboard13:20
sigmanosrednaekim: thanks, is it in the repos?13:20
nosrednaekimBeanos: nope, on gutsy its installed by default.13:20
nosrednaekim!info karbon1413:20
ubotuPackage karbon14 does not exist in gutsy13:20
Beanoswhere do I find it13:20
nosrednaekim!info koffice13:21
ubotukoffice (source: koffice): KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.3-0ubuntu5.1 (gutsy), package size 25 kB, installed size 76 kB13:21
nosrednaekimBeanos: heh... not exactly sure... i'm pretty sure its in the menu though13:21
Beanoswhich log should I post to the paste bin?13:21
nosrednaekimthe command line name is "kxkb, but thats not really going to help you13:21
Beanosso true so true13:22
nosrednaekim /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but thats only going to be helpful if the last time you started X is went wacky13:22
Beanoswell I have started and restarted a bunch of times13:22
nosrednaekimBeanos: yeah, you need the log from a crashed session.13:23
Beanosxorg.0.old log?13:23
nosrednaekimBeanos: in addition does failsafe mode (selected from kdm) work?13:23
Beanosit hasn't crashed, I have been able to log out with the mouse13:23
nosrednaekimBeanos: no.... we need THE one from the time it crashed, we can't be sure that one crashed/went weird13:24
Beanosfailsafe mode? I hit escape and log in recovery mode thru grub13:24
nosrednaekimBeanos: once you are in KDM, click on the sessions button, and select "failsafe"13:24
Beanosah ok got you.. let me give that a try. I'll be back13:24
nosrednaekimif that works... its a problem with kde13:25
nosrednaekimok13:25
nosrednaekimtest ctrl+alt+f2 in a normal session too13:25
anton_I cant get my right screen resulotion13:29
cathrinei have a new kubuntu 7.10 install. can i connect wireless directly to another kubuntu computer, without having a router? i have a lot of files to transfer and dont have a portable harddisk...13:29
nosrednaekimcathrine: if they can both do ad-hoc, yes13:29
cathrineis it easy to make an ad-hoc on one of the computers then?13:30
anton_Hos to check my drivers in terminal?13:30
nosrednaekimcathrine: you have to do ad-hoc on both computers... its not hard as a remember.13:30
nosrednaekimanton_: use the restricted-manager-kde13:31
anton_Okey, werw do i find that?13:31
nosrednaekimanton_: systemsettings->advanced->restrciced drivers13:31
anton_Ok13:32
ActionParsnipanton_, did you go through the sudo dpgk reconfigure xorg13:32
nosrednaekimActionParsnip: thats not going to help if he doesn't even have them installed13:32
anton_Ye, ive tryed that a couple of time's13:32
ActionParsnipnosrednaekim, hes on a Via Unichrome graphics card which is installed13:32
nosrednaekimoh.... anton_ what res do you want?13:33
anton_Ive tryed to conf the xorg.. I typed sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg13:33
anton_1024x76813:33
ActionParsniphttp://pastebin.com/d343aa86d13:34
nosrednaekimanton_: you may as well use the vesa driver then13:34
ActionParsnipnosrednaekim, http://pastebin.com/d343aa86d13:34
ActionParsnipnosrednaekim, thats his lspci13:34
ActionParsnipnosrednaekim, line 2813:34
anton_Yes, im using the vesa driver now, but can't change resolution in systemsettings, screen.13:34
nosrednaekimok... I don't doubt you ;)13:35
nosrednaekimanton_: what res are you getting right now?13:35
anton_What i sec13:36
* ActionParsnip bets 800 x 60013:36
anton_Yes, that's right!13:36
nosrednaekimhrm, could you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?13:36
anton_Okay, what a sec :)13:37
anton_http://pastebin.com/m742a54e213:38
Beanoswell in failsafe mode keyboard works fine. In normal mode even the virtual keyboard dosn't work. suggestions?13:40
Beanoswe think its a KDE issue yes?13:40
nosrednaekimBeanos: I'm talking to someone who has the same precise problem13:41
ActionParsnipanton_, change line 93 to 1024x768 instead of 800x600 but back up the original first to xorg.conf_good or similar13:41
nosrednaekimBeanos: thats what it seems like13:42
Beanossuggestions?13:42
ActionParsnipanton_, you can then roll back if it doesnt work13:42
nosrednaekimtxwikinger: seems to be a KDE problem13:42
anton_Okey, I'll try, but can I still do vesa?13:42
nosrednaekimanton_: yes13:42
ActionParsnipanton_, the command i sent you with dpkg is a gui to xorg.conf and will allow you to add resolutions13:42
anton_Okay, but before i just wrote a command and everything workd13:43
ActionParsnipanton_, kubuntu does not expect users to go modifying such a delicate file without some guidance13:43
anton_Ok, so ill try to change res to 1024x768, be right back :) Thanks 4 helping me!13:44
gttshould alt-f1 bring up the menu in kde4 ?13:44
ActionParsnipanton_, backup the original first13:44
nosrednaekimgtt: not on mine..13:45
ActionParsnipgtt, try ctrl + esc (?)13:45
Beanosthink upgrading to kde 4 would fix my problem?13:45
Beanosapt-get install kde413:45
anton_Is that important? I mean, i can change res  to the same i use now if it wouldnt work?13:46
nosrednaekimBeanos: actually, I'd bet it would ;), but don't use that one, use the one from the PPA13:46
ActionParsnipBeanos, http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php13:46
nosrednaekim!kde413:46
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde413:46
ActionParsnipBeanos, I dont think it will help any though13:46
BluesKajkde4 caused me more problems than it's worth13:46
nosrednaekimBeanos: but we have to find out what this problem is13:46
Beanosok, well how do you suggest I fix my problem?13:46
chartoinso kde4 isn't any better?13:46
ActionParsnipchartoin, its pretty but runs alongside kde3 as not all apps use kde4libs yet13:47
BeanosI just ran it with no keyboard so the log0 should be good13:47
chartoini have no problems whatsoever. should i upgrade to kde 4?13:47
nosrednaekimBeanos: ok, can you do ctrl+alt+f2 to get to the command line from within kde?13:48
Beanosdamn got so enamored with playing failsafe mode didn't try, however I seriously doubt it as the keyboard is completely turned off. ie can't get a num lock light or cap lock light13:49
ActionParsnipBeanos, power off. unplug keyboard and get  adifferent one13:50
nosrednaekimActionParsnip: Laptop ;)13:50
nosrednaekimBeanos: try it anyway13:50
ActionParsnipBeanos, do you have a usb keyboard13:50
ActionParsnipBeanos, lappy keybaords suck for games13:50
ActionParsnipBeanos, specially if you get excited and break it (can be expensive)13:51
thomas__not true13:51
thomas__I own it UT on my laptop :)13:51
Beanosfull sized keyboard with numberpad13:51
BeanosBIG laptop (16 lbs)13:51
ActionParsnipthomas__, not if you damage stuff below the keyboard if you hit it. Easier to replace a POS kb13:51
ActionParsnipBeanos, try it anyhoo13:52
Beanoslet me see if I can find a keyboard13:52
ActionParsnipBeanos, it wil at least let you interact with the beast and troubleshoout13:52
nosrednaekimBeanos: try ctrl+alt+f2 first please...13:53
Beanosok have a USB keyboard, will try to reboot into other session13:53
Beanoswilco13:53
nosrednaekim;)13:53
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: u going to be here for a while13:56
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: sry it took me so long to get back on here had to screw around with some settings in grub. the bash settings for this thing to boot right. as well as i downloaded the updates since i didnt have kde desktop13:57
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, about an hour more13:58
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, np man :D13:58
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: damn dunno how long im going to be gone if ur not here thanks so much for ur help13:58
eagles0513875!ntfs3g13:58
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions13:58
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, np man its how this thingworks13:59
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: ntfs3g comes install with gutsy13:59
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, ive not used it. I have a fileserver that all my systems write / read to13:59
eagles0513875lol wish it could be the same. im duel boot this is like a dev partition14:00
eagles0513875dont even have a desktop handy to set that all up14:00
eagles0513875ill deal with that when i get back14:01
ActionParsnipeagles0513875, if you are ok at command line you dont need an x server14:02
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: im decent14:02
eagles0513875not the greatest i know how to download updates and pkgs through there and go to folders14:03
eagles0513875thats bout it14:03
eagles0513875later dude14:03
ActionParsnipyou can even web browse with links2 -g with vgalibs14:03
ActionParsnippeace14:03
lupulhi. need some help. i try to start wine but it gives an error. wineserver: could not save registry branch to /home/lupul/.wine-pZPDOq/system.reg : No such file or directory14:03
lupulplease :D14:04
niall_digikam is kinda rubbish14:04
nosrednaekimlupul: #winehq14:05
ActionParsnipniall_, use something else then14:06
niall_I dunno what else there is14:06
lupulnosrednaekim more help please?14:06
ActionParsniplupul, how are you running wine?14:07
ActionParsnipniall_, then get googling for an alternative14:08
ActionParsnipniall_, try picassa14:09
ActionParsnipniall_, the point of Linux is you have choice. If you search for software you will find it14:09
lupulwinecfg. that's what i'm trying14:09
lupulbut it gives the same error when i try sometghing like wine hl.exe14:10
ActionParsniplupul, can we have a pastebin of what happens when you run wine hl.exe14:10
ActionParsniplupul, i'm guessing you hve cd'd to the folder with hl.exe in it14:11
dhqmy server blocked an irc site how do i access it please i need it14:12
ActionParsnipdhq, your server?14:12
Beanosyes success.. You will NEVER believe what the problem was14:13
dhqActionParsnip: well irc.linuxfromscratch.org14:13
BluesKajdhq, irc server?14:13
lupulwine: creating configuration directory '/home/lupul/.wine'...14:13
lupulSegmentation fault (core dumped)14:13
dhqBluesKaj: yes14:13
lupulwine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/home/lupul/.wine'.14:14
lupullupul@eo:~/kit games/Sierra_Sports_Game_Room-CLS$ wineserver: could not save registry branch to /home/lupul/.wine-ypi6hf/system.reg : No such file or directory14:14
lupulwineserver: could not save registry branch to /home/lupul/.wine-ypi6hf/user.reg : No such file or directory14:14
BluesKajdhq, which irc server?14:14
dhqwell irc.linuxfromscratch.org14:14
anton_It didnt work, now im on vesa and can't do more resolution then 800x600, any ideas?14:14
Beanosit some how got set to assecibility options and needed each key press to last 8 seconds14:14
BluesKajdhq, no doubt you need to register14:15
ActionParsnip!paste " lupl14:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paste " lupl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:15
ActionParsnip!pastebin | lupul14:15
ubotulupul: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)14:15
dhqBluesKaj: my isp blocked it14:15
ActionParsniplupul, put it in there14:15
ActionParsnipdhq, contact your ISP then14:15
BluesKajisp ?14:15
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ActionParsnipBluesKaj, internet service provider14:16
dhqActionParsnip: the people here are  not there14:16
lupulsorry ActionParsnip but i'm kind of newbee14:16
dhqActionParsnip: they dont listen14:16
dhqActionParsnip: is there anyway to bypass this14:16
BluesKajgee ActionParsnip , thx :)14:16
ActionParsniplupul, paste the text in there then you give us the little link so you dont flood the room. Imagine if everybody started pasting stuff like that\14:16
BluesKajhow can an isp block an irc server?14:17
niall_digicam needs an autorename feature14:17
ActionParsnipBluesKaj, well they give you your data so they can block anything they want14:17
ActionParsnipniall_, in what way?14:17
Lynouredhq: you can vote with your feet for an ISP that listens. or you can get shell account for irc from somewhere else14:17
BluesKajoh come now ...big brother is watching ?...gimme a break14:18
LynoureBluesKaj: easily, some even block all of the standard irc ports.14:18
BluesKajI still think there's something wrong with the irc addy he's trying14:18
dhqLynoure: tell me14:19
Lynouredhq: what?14:19
niall_ActionParsnip: I'm importing loads of photos which share the file names of a boat load I already have in my album. So I keep getting a 'File Already Exists' dialogue which gives me the option to rename (manually), skip, autoskip, overwrite and overwrite all. There's not option to just rename them all, like dump an underscore on the end. I can't be arsed to set through like 1000 windows renaming them all myself ¬_¬.,14:19
lupulhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53020/14:19
ActionParsnipniall_, why not create a folder for each batch. Having a flat folder full of photos really isnt practical14:20
niall_ActionParsnip: they're all part of the same collection, I just formatted the card half way through after backing up the first ones, so the camera starting name the files back from 0.14:21
ActionParsniplupul, good please use that in future14:21
BluesKajdhq, are you @work , on a company run WAN and ISP ?14:21
ActionParsniplupul, you could try sudo wine ./INSTALL.exe14:21
lupulsame error14:22
ActionParsnipniall_, you could write a script to check if the filename exists and rrenames it before copying the file14:22
ActionParsnipniall_, have a search round to see if ne exists14:22
niall_also the default sort is by filename, rather than date, even in the _date_ view.14:22
ActionParsnipniall_, or write your own :D14:22
dhqBluesKaj: i am at home on a wan14:22
niall_someone needs to fix all of this ;x14:23
ActionParsnipniall_, put it to the digikam guys14:23
lupuli'm on gutsy 64. i did something to make flashplayer work on firefox, but in the instructions there was something writing that wine won't work14:23
ActionParsnipniall_, if you google you may strike lucky14:23
ActionParsnip!flash | lupul14:23
ubotulupul: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash14:23
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.14:23
niall_it cares too much about the actual files14:23
ActionParsnipniall_, in what way do you mean?14:24
BluesKajdhq , i don't know what the freedom of expression and speech laws are in your country but internet censorship shouldn't be allowed by any ISP that does business in a democratic country.14:27
dhqBluesKaj: well its a private isp14:27
BluesKajaha, now comes the reality14:27
dhqBluesKaj: i did email them but no news14:27
dhqBluesKaj: now i have no idea i am working on LFS and i cant join the channel14:28
niall_ActionParsnip: well for a start when I'm importing these photos into an album it's just moving them all into a folder and then worrying about them having the same name, the file name is pretty irrelevent tbh, I care more about the meta data and stuff. My album is just a folder in my home directory with all stuff I'm importing put in there, which means if I've got stuff in more than one folder I want to import into the album14:28
niall_I have to import them all individually, or it just imports the folders too and they become part of the albums structure. What's on the actual disk shouldn't really matter, the 'albums' they're in should be defined by more meta data, entries in a database not how things are actually set up, that is just causing all sorts of problems.14:28
anton_How to du here: http://pastebin.com/m1c39850a ?14:29
BluesKajdhq, a small time ISP trying to save bandwidth isn't much use if it blocks text driven clients like IRC14:29
ActionParsnipniall_, as I say. Try a different app. Yuo dont have to use digikam14:30
ActionParsnipniall_, i agree the metadata should be used but in any operating system, 2 identically named files cannot coexists in the same folder14:30
niall_I know that14:31
ActionParsnipniall_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45376714:31
ActionParsnipniall_, is that any good to you ?14:32
ActionParsnipanton_, you need to run sudo dpkg --configure -a14:33
anton_Yeah, i figured that out.14:33
ActionParsnipanton_, 99% of dpkg commands need sudo14:33
anton_Ok14:34
anton_sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-openchrome14:34
ActionParsnipanton_, yes. you cannot install stuff as a user, you need sudo14:34
anton_Yeah, but that command shall work, right?14:34
ActionParsnipanton_, yeah should do14:35
anton_Ok, but it doesn't, hmm, can I paste a pastebin?14:35
ActionParsnipsure14:35
thomas__maybe set language to english instead of swedish anton_14:36
vbgunzanyone familiar with ls? there is no way to sort alphabetically *but* directories first?14:38
anton_Yeah, i thought I ask'd you, but it was in wrong chanel :P14:38
anton_I think this is the right comand: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-unichrome14:40
anton_So i would try that one14:40
ActionParsnipvbgunz, googling now14:41
vbgunzActionParsnip: heh, no need to google, I checked the man and seen no way to do it, would probably require some chains, etc, not really very important :)14:42
ActionParsnipvbgunz, yeah ive kinda got that too14:43
vbgunzthanks :)14:43
niall_ActionParsnip: that little copy move script is doing it's thing right now, pretty handy.14:44
niall_this could take a while ;x14:44
ActionParsnipniall_, like i say. Search for what you need. It may not be a function of your favourite app.14:45
ActionParsnipniall_, you could put it in a script and use it later14:45
dhqBluesKaj: again i got dcc14:50
BluesKajActionParsnip, dhq got into the server and room he was trying to connect up...it wasn't his ISP, it's the server ...it took me 3 tries , but i got there too.14:50
ActionParsnipBluesKaj, what was it then?14:51
ActionParsnipBluesKaj, didnt think it was his ISP14:51
BluesKajirc.linuxfromscratch.org14:51
BluesKajyeah , i know you didn't think that , but he did ...and i couldn't understand why14:52
fulat2khi folks, just installed kubuntu 7.10 on a dell latitude d630.  using the live cd, i was able to connect to a wifi point w/o wep, but with MAC filtering.  but after installing, connecting to an AP with WEP doesn't work.  any ideas?  using ipw394514:52
ActionParsnipfulat2k, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25685914:55
ActionParsnipfulat2k, please google before asking14:55
BluesKaj!wireless | fulat2k14:56
ubotufulat2k: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs14:56
ActionParsnipPeace out dudes14:58
ActionParsniphome time for me14:58
ActionParsnipcheck you tomorrow14:58
ActionParsnip7am GMT, 2am EST14:59
ops1234509how long will fiesty be supported?15:09
emonkey18 Months if I'm right ...15:11
bazhangthis year perhaps? wasnt it released in 2006?15:11
tatter1I noticed a kde4 remastered kubuntu that out ,,,,is kde4 going to be released with hardy or not15:13
BluesKajtatter1, no kde 3.5.8 will be the kubuntu desktop for the next release15:17
tatter1k, looks like it time to try the remastered version then, thnx15:17
stevenyhello:) I have a small problem:( new to this:( does someone have a spare minute?15:18
stevenyi can't use my usb ports:(15:19
tatter1have been able to previously?15:19
stevenywhen I livecd'ed I could...but then after the full install, they don't work15:20
stevenyand now when I live cd, they don't work eaither15:20
stevenyis there something I can try?15:22
BluesKajsteveny, dmesg | grep usb , then pastebin the output15:22
stevenyHA! what is the paste command? ctrl p doesn't work in ubuntu :P15:25
tmsketry shift insert15:25
BluesKajctrl v15:25
stevenysteveny@steveny-laptop:~$ dmesg | grep usb15:25
steveny[17179575.916000] usbcore: registered new driver usbfs15:25
steveny[17179575.916000] usbcore: registered new driver hub15:25
stevenythank you15:26
BluesKajnp15:27
stevenyok, what am I looking for?15:28
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stevenyis there something else I can try? I really miss my mouse and hd's...:(15:31
Sbucatone!kde415:33
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde415:33
steveny:( it looks like ubuntu wasn't for me:( I can't live without my usb stuff :( Maybe Mr Gates will let me use his stuff again:(15:34
niall_what USB stuff?15:35
stevenyI can't get my ports to work. I have two usb hd's, cameras, mp3 players, a printer, mouse and so on.....I need the usb ports to work15:36
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intExDKHey... I just bought a USB pen, and now I'd like to format it. How do I do that in Kubuntu?15:37
stevenyis there another channel that may have someone that can help? I thought this was the biggest?15:39
tmskesteveny: you can try in #ubuntu15:40
ScorpKingsteveny: or #linux15:40
stevenyty15:42
eagles0513875i have 2 issues one is with audio and also getting my vista partition to mount so i can add ntfs3g support to it. i looked in my fstab and its not even showing up15:44
eagles0513875my 2nd issue is that i have no sound what so ever15:44
thomas__eagles0513875: try google ;-) there ara an uncountable amounts of wiki's on how to resove there problems15:45
ubuntuHallo, gibt es einen Befehl um eine Festplatte unter der Live-CD komplett zu löschen/formatieren?15:47
thomas__!de | ubuntu15:47
ubotuubuntu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de15:47
ScorpKing!ntfs | eagles051387515:48
ubotueagles0513875: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE15:48
eagles051387_i have a 2 fold problem 1 no sound what so ever. 2 cant mount vista ntfs partition and its not showing up in fstab so i can add ntfs3g support to it15:50
eagles051387_anyone with any ideas15:50
BluesKajeagles051387, try Easy BCD on vista15:51
eagles051387_!easybcd15:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easybcd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:51
BluesKajor this page may help :  http://www.pronetworks.org/forum/about78184.html15:52
bazhangeasy bcd haha15:52
eagles051387_BluesKaj what is it15:52
tekstacyI'm trying to resize a partition with QTParted, but it tells me the drive is busy. But the drive (says) it isn't mounted. How do I fix this?15:52
BluesKajit's abootloader for Vista and Linux15:52
thomas__tekstacy: unmount it though konsole15:52
eagles051387_BluesKaj i am having no issues with grub15:52
eagles051387_im able to get on both partitions even though i do get a bios bug #8115:52
eagles051387_it still loads but i do get random mouse lockups15:53
BluesKajoh sorry, thought you were having bootup probs15:53
tekstacyum, how?15:53
tekstacySorry, never done that yet.15:54
eagles051387_BluesKaj no boot up issues im havin in linux issues my ntfs partition is not showing up in fstab and going to the icon i cant mount it either15:54
BluesKajeagles051387 I think working in Vista with BCD will help solve the NTFS prob , check it out15:55
BluesKajwell, BBL , gonna get some fresh winter air for an hr or so.15:55
eagles051387_BluesKaj im trying to access it from kubuntu15:55
BluesKajyeah , that's why I suggested check out BCD15:56
eagles051387_alright let me get back on kubuntu partition15:56
BluesKajgotta go, BBL15:56
tekstacyahhh, I found it.  :)  didn't catch the missing n15:57
ubuntuhow can i unmount a partition?16:00
PowerJChow would kubuntu run on this computer: duron 1600, 256 mb16:06
reverend_joshuai can't get my second hard drive mounted with write permission16:07
reverend_joshuawrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,16:07
Vermuxhave problems with my user account16:07
Vermuxhow do I delete the user and all settings?16:07
ChousukePowerJC: I suppose it would run, but more memory would be good :)16:07
PowerJCwould it run well, or would i be better with xubuntu?16:08
ChousukeI'm not sure. You could try both.16:08
eagles0513875after restarting my computer and have it boot into kubuntu the desktop doesnt load16:08
eagles0513875r there any known bugs with kubuntu and amd turion x2 processors16:08
AmyRose!pm | eagles051387516:09
ubotueagles0513875: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.16:09
ChousukePowerJC: just install kubuntu and then install the xubuntu-desktop package to get xubuntu apps installed as well.16:09
eagles0513875AmyRose lol sry can i pm ya16:09
PowerJCok, so if kubuntu is to slow just install xubuntu package if it is too slow?16:09
ChousukePowerJC: then you can just select your session at the login screen16:09
PowerJCok16:09
Chousukeyeah.16:09
xt|awayanyone here know much about fiddling with /etc/fstab ?16:10
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eagles0513875xt828 what u trying to do with it16:10
xt828i have a complicated raid 0 setup i'm trying to get data off16:11
eagles0513875xt828 im guessing ntfs format16:11
xt828there's two physical drives, and it looks like they're partitioned into three16:11
xt828all three start on the first drive16:12
eagles0513875xt828 r they ntfs ext3 or what file format16:12
jussi01!raid | xt82816:12
ubotuxt828: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto16:12
eagles0513875jussi01 do u know of any known issues with kubuntu and amd turion x2's16:12
jussi01eagles0513875: yeah, you need to add a few things to grub boot line16:13
eagles0513875jussi01 how do i go bout doing that16:13
eagles0513875and will that eliminate me from having to turn of dma acip and pnp bios cuz im also getting a bios bug #8116:13
VermuxIm about to deluser my current user and --remove-all- files. what do I need to do after that to addthe user correctly?16:14
jussi01eagles0513875: when grub pops up, read the instructions.... and add noapic nolapic to the boot line16:14
eagles0513875thats it16:14
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eagles0513875jussi01 once i get to the desktop can i permenantly add that to grub16:15
jussi01eagles0513875: yes, that permanently adds it...16:15
eagles0513875jussi01 let me get this stright16:15
ScorpKingVermux: why do you want to do that if i may ask?16:15
thomas_newbie__I installed PHP and enabled it to work with Apache but whenever I go to open an php page it asks me to download it. I resarted Apache and reloaded browser cache by exiting, still no luck.16:15
f1xerhi all i have one question about kubuntu16:15
f1xercan somebody help me?16:16
xt828okay, dmraid -r gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53039/16:16
eagles0513875jussi01 when grub pops up hit e to open list of commands and under root type nolapci16:16
ScorpKing!ask > f1xer16:16
xt828and the relevant part of fdisk -l is this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53040/16:16
ScorpKing!lamp | thomas__16:17
ubotuthomas__: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)16:17
xt828i can't seem to find any analogues in the help files16:17
VermuxScorpKing: because since yesterday I cant get into Administrative mode in gui (for example: in System Settings- change the screen resolution. another example: Adept|_manager does not even open now)16:17
ScorpKingVermux: ok i see. your user in the admin group?16:17
VermuxScorpKing: yesterday I deleted the my user and added it again- but it did not work correctly16:17
VermuxScorpKing: I think, I dont know16:18
f1xerif i already have ubuntu 7.05 and now i want have kubuntu 1.0PL i must return orginall MBR on my HD ?16:18
VermuxScorpKing: I changed an entry in the /etc/group but I think everything is not working properly16:18
intelikeyVermux konsole command;   sudo echo yes16:18
ScorpKingVermux: grep youruser /etc/group - there should be admin:x:109:youruser16:19
Vermuxintelikey: yes16:19
intelikeyVermux ok you didn't break sudo.  so you can;  sudo -i     and fix what ever16:19
ScorpKingVermux: mv /home/youruser /home/youruser_old and create your homedir again16:20
VermuxScorpKing: I have my user name and 118 and 100016:20
ScorpKingVermux: 1000 should be your uid16:21
VermuxScorpKing: ok, I have 118 instead of 10916:21
ScorpKingVermux: move your home dir and delete your user. create it again and see if it works16:22
ScorpKingVermux: if you want to add yourself to a group run sudo adduser <you> <group>16:23
reverend_joshuais there any way to get write permission on an NTFS drive?16:23
ScorpKingreverend_joshua: ls -l /<mointpoint>16:23
eagles0513875!ntfs3g | reverend_joshua16:23
ubotureverend_joshua: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions16:23
ScorpKingugh. nvm16:23
eagles0513875ScorpKing everything ok16:24
VermuxScorpKing: ok, I mv the home. now I suppose to mkdir it again?16:24
_hufi_hey16:24
ScorpKingVermux: no. just delete the user16:24
_hufi_where are you from?16:24
eagles0513875jussi01 i tried nolapci yet it still didnt boot kde16:24
eagles0513875!offtopic | _hufi_16:25
ubotu_hufi_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!16:25
VermuxScorpKing: but I need to log out in order to delete the user, no?16:25
ScorpKingVermux: i don't think so. you just have to be root16:25
eagles0513875where exactly in grub do i have to type in  nolapci when i hit e it give mee root a 2nd one the initrd16:26
VermuxScorpKing: it says my user is currently logged in16:26
reverend_joshuais ntfsprogs the same as the ntfs-config16:26
reverend_joshuapackage?16:26
ScorpKingVermux: boot to recovery mode16:26
VermuxScorpKing: ok16:26
eagles0513875reverend_joshua u know how to use the command line commands16:27
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ScorpKingreverend_joshua: i don't think you need that.16:27
reverend_joshuanot really, no16:27
eagles0513875reverend_joshua if ur in the adept manager type in the search ntfs-3g16:27
intelikeyVermux you can do it from a console; in konsole type this    sudo openvt -fc 12      then logout and press ctrl+alt+f1216:27
ScorpKingreverend_joshua: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/<disk> /<mointpoint>16:28
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xt828based on this fstab -l http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53040/  what file system formats should i be using for mounting the second and third partitions?16:29
xt828can i use ntfs-3g for all of them?16:29
eagles0513875xt828 if they r all ntfs u should be able to mount them all16:29
ScorpKingxt828: ntfs-3g is only for ntfs16:29
reverend_joshuait says ntfs-3g is an unknown filesystem16:29
arrrghhhntfs-3g isn't a file system16:30
eagles0513875reverend_joshua u need to download the ntfs-3g pkgs first16:30
arrrghhhntfs is a file system16:30
xt828what do i use for W95 Ext'd LBA?16:30
eagles0513875he needs to download the pkgs first16:30
eagles0513875xt828 win 95 used fat3216:30
Chousukext828: that is not a file system.16:31
xt828righto16:31
reverend_joshuaadept is giving me the options of libntfs8 and ntfsprogs16:31
reverend_joshuabut nothing ntfs-3g16:31
eagles0513875reverend_joshua interesting then it might have laready been included in gutsy in that case ull need to edit the fstab then unmount the drive and remount it16:32
Chousukext828: sdc5 doesn't seem to even have a filesystem16:32
Chousukext828: you may need to format it (it will destroy any data on the partition)16:32
xt828sdc5 is stretched across sdd from what i can tell16:32
Chousukehmm16:33
Chousukethat seems really weird.16:33
xt828i'm trying to pull the data off those drives so that i can format them16:33
xt828yeah, the drive setup was not brilliant16:33
eagles0513875wouldnt u want just the data off the main drive instead of the raided drives16:34
xt828how do you mean the main drive?16:35
xt828oh he left16:35
xt828eagles: how do you mean the main drive?16:38
eagles0513875xt828 the main drive is the one u boot off of16:39
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eagles0513875im getting uberly frustrated here i was informed there is a bug with kubuntu and turion 64 x2 chips can someone tell me how to remedy the situation i already tried when grub comes up to change it to where there is nolapci support16:40
eagles0513875yet it still doesnt work16:40
eagles0513875!pnpbios16:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pnpbios - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:40
VermuxScorpKing: have a big problem now. Im chatting through the laptop now. GotL"Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use16:41
unagican i make a new user account and install kde/gnome on it to try it out or will that affect my other users too16:41
eagles0513875when i hit e to edit the start up commands where exactly do i type in acpi=off etc16:42
ScorpKingVermux: did you delete the user?16:43
VermuxScorpKing: no16:43
VermuxScorpKing: I clicked on graphic safe mode16:43
ScorpKingVermux: oh ok. why is there ntfs in there?16:43
eagles0513875xt828 how is ur raid exactly setup16:43
VermuxScorpKing: I have win xp installed on a different partition16:44
eagles0513875Vermux give the machien a reboot16:44
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VermuxScorpKing: should I delete the user now?16:44
eagles0513875Vermux something some how is locked in memory16:44
VermuxScorpKing: it is text mode16:44
ScorpKingVermux: yes and create it again16:44
VermuxScorpKing: removing16:45
ScorpKingrighto..16:45
VermuxScorpKing: nothing happans, it says Removing User... but nothing happans16:47
ScorpKingls -l /home16:47
ScorpKingnah16:47
VermuxScorpKing: nothing16:47
Vermuxthe path machine name@user dissapeared16:48
ScorpKingVermux: hmm.. back at the :~$ ?16:48
eagles0513875im back finally back on my desktop16:48
ScorpKingVermux: oh. you were root?16:48
VermuxScorpKing: now16:48
xt828i went through this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and in step 5/6, when i run ./activeraid it tells me that o is an invalid option for dmraid16:48
Vermuxyes16:48
eagles0513875my next headache is i have no sound what so ever16:48
VermuxScorpKing: now Im back to the $16:49
VermuxScorpKing: actually, #16:49
ScorpKingVermux: ok. now adduser username16:49
eagles0513875xt828: in all honesty i have never setup raid in linux. i have with winblows and i know how it works but thats about it:(16:50
VermuxScorpKing: it says it is already exists16:50
xt828ah, righto16:50
eagles0513875xt828: what was the setup u have right there16:50
xt828thanks for your help anyway16:50
ScorpKingVermux: using deluser <name> ?16:50
eagles0513875xt828: if its a mirrored array u should be able to pull everything off from the vry first drive u r using if its striped or parity then i dunno what u goign to do then16:50
VermuxScorpKing: yes16:50
xt828it's a raid 0, so striped16:51
eagles0513875let me see what i can find on google16:51
eagles0513875xt828: sry for not being much of a help im dealing with a bunch off issues i have never had before16:51
ubuntuhello16:51
ScorpKingVermux: edit /etc/passwd , /etc/shadow , /etc/group , /etc/gshadow and remove everything of that user16:52
VermuxScorpKing: when typing deluser it says removing user but nothing happans. then, I do ctrl C to get the # again16:52
ubunturename nub16:52
VermuxScorpKing: edit is a command?16:52
VermuxScorpKing: or I can use vim?16:52
ScorpKingno16:52
Vermuxok16:52
ScorpKingyes16:52
eagles0513875xt828: u still round might have found something that might come in handy but with a raid 1 array16:53
eagles0513875http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=412157816:53
reverend_joshuai have the ntfs configuration tool installed but when i click on it, nothing happens16:53
xt828cheers, will take a look16:53
eagles0513875reverend_joshua: so u were able to download the ntfs-3g pkgs16:53
reverend_joshuayeah16:53
eagles0513875ok16:53
eagles0513875good16:53
eagles0513875no open up the shell16:53
eagles0513875*now16:54
reverend_joshuaat least i think that's what i did16:54
eagles0513875reverend_joshua: there is one way to find out16:54
eagles0513875reverend_joshua: open up the shell and type in cd /etc16:54
reverend_joshuaok16:54
eagles0513875reverend_joshua: then kdesu kate fstab16:54
unagican i make a new user account and install kde/gnome on it to try it out or will that affect my other users too16:54
ScorpKingunagi: it will affect all users16:55
eagles0513875unagi: u can install gnome all it will do is give all ur users the ability to try out gnome16:55
unagioh16:55
reverend_joshuaok16:55
eagles0513875ScorpKing: am i right in what i said or not16:55
eagles0513875reverend_joshua: its opened right16:55
reverend_joshuayes16:55
geniiunagi: When you for instance install a new window manager, it's menu items will usually appear for all users and not just one user.16:55
unaginevermind then....i guess i COULD download kubuntu and try it on a live cd16:55
ScorpKingeagles0513875: about gnome? yes16:55
eagles0513875reverend_joshua: r u able to see the ntfs partition listed there16:56
reverend_joshuai need to remount it16:56
eagles0513875reverend_joshua: yep16:56
intelikeyr u ???16:56
eagles0513875reverend_joshua: that should give u r/w access16:56
VermuxScorpKing: ok, I removed everything16:56
ScorpKingVermux: now adduser16:57
intelikeychannel becomes more aol/yahoo 'ish every day.16:57
eagles0513875ScorpKing: u happen to know of any other issues with kubuntu and turion 64x2's16:57
geniiintelikey: Well, at least he's helping :)16:57
ScorpKingeagles0513875: nope16:57
VermuxScorpKing: ok, created16:57
eagles0513875intelikey: u happy to know of any known issues with kubuntu and amd turion x216:57
eagles0513875cuz i have had a really tough time getting things to work16:57
VermuxScorpKing: now reboot?16:57
ScorpKingVermux: just check if it's in the admin group first16:57
VermuxScorpKing: in /etc/group?16:58
intelikeyeagles0513875 sorry i don't follow you there.    what are you asking exactly ?16:58
VermuxScorpKing: the last line is username:x:1000:16:58
ScorpKingVermux: just run adduser <you> admin - if it's there it will tell you16:58
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ScorpKingVermux: i hope that's not actually username ;)16:59
reverend_joshuastill not letting me set write permissions16:59
eagles0513875intelikey: just to get kde desktop to work i have had to disable acpi and dma even just to get to the desktop on kde. r there any other things that i should be aware of16:59
VermuxScorpKing: it says it added the user to group 'admin;16:59
ScorpKingVermux: ok then. is the user you've added called username?17:00
VermuxScorpKing: no17:00
ScorpKinghehe. reboot then17:00
ScorpKingor just type exit17:00
intelikeyeagles0513875 that should just about cover it.    possably kernel frame buffering, if you are using ati vidio17:00
Vermuxok, but where do I check if it is in the admin group? which file?17:00
ScorpKingVermux: /etc/group17:00
ScorpKingVermux: grep admin /etc/group17:01
intelikeyas that user type   groups17:01
eagles0513875intelikey: im using nvidia chipset on this laptop. i learned my lesson after the last one but then again im apprehensive of getting rid of winblows just incase WoW doesnt get good fram rates on here17:01
ScorpKingty intelikey17:01
eagles0513875intelikey: http://www.howtoforge.com/access-linux-partitions-from-windows17:01
* ScorpKing learned something new..17:02
eagles0513875thats nuts im goign to have to do that17:02
ScorpKing!ext17:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ext - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:02
eagles0513875!ext3 | ScorpKing17:02
ubotuScorpKing: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org17:02
VermuxScorpKing: ok, now it is 10917:02
ScorpKingeagles0513875: yeah thats the one17:02
ScorpKing:)17:03
eagles0513875can anyone help me with a no audio issue i have now that i can get to my desktop17:03
intelikey!sound17:05
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP317:05
intelikeythe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting page might help17:05
xt828!dmraid17:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dmraid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:06
eagles0513875xt828: hows it going17:06
eagles0513875intelikey: ty17:06
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xt828not really getting anywhere17:07
thomas_newbie__Should I delete the Apache2-default directory from /var/www ?17:08
reverend_joshuawhen i click on the icon for ntfs config tool, it doesn't do anything17:08
xt828dmraid can find the raid sets17:08
reverend_joshuashould i logoff/logon?17:08
xt828can't seem to mount them though17:08
GuiBlancoWhich E-R modeler software do you suggest? Ferret is not good... do you suggest me another one?17:09
geniithomas_newbie__: It's not necessary to do so, but you can if you want to.17:09
xt828the raid sets are identified in /dev/mapper17:09
thomas_newbie__genii: not a security flaw? someone can access that folder and their files17:09
eagles0513875xt828: u might have to run fsck on em17:09
xt828mmm, yeah17:09
eagles0513875intelikey: i cant find my alsa driver on the alsa site17:09
geniithomas_newbie__: There's nothing inside it but the "It Works!" webpage17:10
eagles0513875intelikey: i have an nvidia mcp51 high def audio chipset17:10
xt828seems odd that they work in windows though17:10
eagles0513875xt828: u have duel boot17:10
xt828yeah17:10
xt828windows is only semifunctional though17:10
eagles0513875what u mean17:10
xt828the registry has a lot of issues17:11
ScorpKing!windows17:11
ubotuFor discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents17:11
ScorpKing:)17:11
eagles0513875ScorpKing: lol17:11
geniiThanks ScorpKing17:11
eagles0513875xt828: ur name registered17:11
xt828with what?  ubuntu irc?17:12
eagles0513875xt828: ya17:12
xt828nope17:12
BluesKajxt828, freenode server17:12
eagles0513875!register |xt82817:12
ubotuxt828: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration17:12
eagles0513875xt828: register so we could take the windows chat into a one on one17:12
thomas_newbie__How come when I try to search something in a Search engine in Konqueror it asks me to download the page or open in firefox??!17:13
xt828registered17:13
_VermuxScorpKing: back to business17:14
=== _Vermux is now known as Vermux
ScorpKing_Vermux: everything working?17:15
VermuxScorpKing: it says that mixer cannot be found17:15
VermuxScorpKing: the litlle speaker icon17:16
Vermuxhas x on it17:16
eagles0513875ScorpKing: i have no audio what so ever17:16
* ScorpKing doesn't know anything about audio..17:16
BluesKajVermux, cat /proc/asound/cards17:16
eagles0513875BluesKaj: would that work for me i have no audio but nothing is muted what so ever17:17
VermuxBluesKaj:17:17
Vermux0 [ICH5           ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH517:17
Vermux                      Intel ICH5 with AD1985 at irq 2217:17
ScorpKing!paste17:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:18
BluesKajeagles0513875, try it , it'll just give a soundcard/controller name17:18
jussi01!intelhda | Vermux17:18
ubotuVermux: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto17:18
thomas_newbie__anyone have a clue about my problem?17:18
eagles0513875BluesKaj: i know mine is an nvidia mcp51 chipset17:19
BluesKajVermux , asoundconf set-default-card "Intel ICH5"17:19
eagles0513875BluesKaj: now im confused it says17:19
eagles0513875 0 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia17:19
eagles0513875                      HDA NVidia at 0xc0000000 irq 2217:19
eagles0513875is my chipset an nvidia audio or intel audio17:20
BluesKajeagles0513875, don't worry about the chipset , it's the card you want it to recognize AFAIK17:20
eagles0513875so the card is afaik card17:21
eagles0513875BluesKaj: would this help at all http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=201389517:21
BluesKajAFAIK = As Far As I Know17:21
eagles0513875BluesKaj: oh17:21
VermuxBluesKaj: doesnt work17:21
eagles0513875BluesKaj: this is on a laptop i dont know if that would make a differencce17:22
VermuxBluesKaj: I just deleted and added the usrer and no sound now17:22
GuiBlancoDoes anyone know how to get DBDesigner working in KUbuntu 7.10?17:22
BluesKajeagles0513875, asoundconf set-default-card "HDA NVidia"17:22
eagles0513875reboot afterward17:22
Vermuxeagles0513875: me?17:23
eagles0513875Vermux: no17:23
BluesKajVermux,  k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture,click apply17:23
thomas_newbie__How come when I try to search something in a Search engine in Konqueror it asks me to download the page or open in firefox??!17:23
eagles0513875BluesKaj: do i reboot after17:23
BluesKajeagles0513875, yes17:23
eagles0513875ok will do17:23
VermuxBluesKaj: ok, no change17:25
BluesKajok Vermux , this takes a few more steps , now :  in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key', then set the volume ctrls to 71%17:26
VermuxBluesKaj: why it is still restarting the sound17:26
BluesKajVermux, just exit that17:27
Vermuxok17:27
home_hello got a small keyboard problem :) changed the keyboard from qwertz to azerty when i am logged in i hqve the azerty board ( was able to change it) but when i got the logging screen i still have qwertz board  can someone tell me how to change it to azerty too plz ?17:28
VermuxBluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/m7ac14a6c17:29
VermuxBluesKaj: I get that when I type alsamixer17:30
jimmy51_officeCould somebody recommend a fully kubuntu supported (2D, 3D) AGP video card in the $150 USD (or less) range that would be suitable for running 3D games?17:31
BluesKajVermux, you need to find and install the linux driver for your soundcard17:31
jimmy51_officemy ATI headaches are just too much for my taste17:31
intelikeyjimmy51_office i think intel has a few.   maybe look on the "supported hardware" page17:32
reverend_joshuacan i can delete /media/hdb1 without effecting the drive if the drive is unmounted?17:32
VermuxBluesKaj: alsmixer?17:32
intelikeyreverend_joshua yes.   don't use -r though, just in case something trys to automount it for you17:33
VermuxBluesKaj: how do I find and install the driver?17:34
BluesKajno Vermux, you need to find out what make and model soundcard is installed on your pc/laptop , do an lspci in the terminal and look for "audio controller"17:34
jimmy51_officeintelikey:  is that at kubuntu.org?  i'm not seeing it17:35
BluesKajVermux, then do a search for the soundcard's linux drivers17:35
VermuxBluesKaj: in Intel's web site?17:36
VermuxBluesKaj: Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)17:36
Vermuxcan I download the driver directly from Intel web site or only from Adept_manager?17:37
BluesKajVermux, cool first try this in the terminal: asoundconf set-default-card "Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER"17:37
BluesKajVermux, then try 'alsamixer' in the terminal17:38
VermuxBluesKaj: just did that17:38
Vermuxnothing17:38
BluesKajreboot17:39
VermuxBluesKaj: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device17:39
Vermuxme?17:39
BluesKajyup17:39
Vermuxok, sec17:39
home_hello got a small keyboard problem :) changed the keyboard from qwertz to azerty when i am logged in i have the azerty board ( was able to change it) but when i got the logging screen i still have qwertz board  can someone tell me how to change it to azerty too plz ?17:40
=== ubuntu__ is now known as Max_-
Max_-Hi, I've installed Kubuntu on /dev/sdb1 and now grub won't load it... but it can load PCLOS on /dev/sda... I'm on the Kubuntu LiveCD, how do I fix this?17:42
VermuxBluesKaj: all this time I was in safe mode17:43
computahuserI'm having kubuntu boot trouble, am I in the right place?17:43
VermuxNo command arguments supplied!17:44
VermuxUsage: kdesudo [-u <runas>] <command>17:44
VermuxKdeSudo will now exit..17:44
VermuxBluesKaj:  ok, I rebooted17:44
BluesKajok alsamixer ?17:44
VermuxBluesKaj: the same error17:45
VermuxBluesKaj: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device17:45
matteohi all17:46
reverend_joshua!ntfs-3g17:46
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions17:46
matteomy ubuntu won't mount usb driver in d3lphin or konqueror17:46
matteobut I can do it with pmount17:46
matteohow can I fix it?17:46
matteoA security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal")17:46
BluesKajVermux, try this in the terminal one more time : asoundconf set-default-card "Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER"17:47
VermuxBluesKaj: ok17:47
VermuxBluesKaj: I did that17:47
VermuxBluesKaj: now, rreboot?17:47
BluesKajnow choose alsa in the systemsettings /sound system17:48
VermuxBluesKaj: I dont have that, I have autodetect17:48
BluesKajVermux, change it17:49
computahuserI'm not able to boot into Kubuntu 98% of the time. Once it boots it's fine. I have installed it but I'm having trouble getting past the boot phase. I get the error "kernel direct mapping tables up to 1000000000 @ 8000-d000"17:49
Vermuxto what?17:49
VermuxBluesKaj: it is set to advanced linux...17:49
BluesKajadvanced linux sound architecture + alsa17:49
reverend_joshuai have installed the NTFS config tool but when i click on it, it does nothing17:49
BluesKajerr =17:49
VermuxBluesKaj: I dont have alsa in the list17:50
BluesKajbummer17:50
Vermux?17:51
BluesKaj'alsa' means 'advanced linux sound architecture'17:51
Vermuxheheh17:51
Vermuxok17:51
Vermuxit is till not working17:52
Vermuxcan I download the driver from intel web site?17:52
BluesKajnot finished yet17:52
BluesKajyes  Vermux , try that17:52
Vermuxhow do I check again my card type?17:52
BluesKajlspci17:53
pirkoHi all, I've just installed kubuntu 7.10 from USB according to http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/. During installation everything went fine. But now when booting from harddisk it freeze for o three minutes aproximate and then goes to recovery mode. Any idea what could be wrong?17:54
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VermuxBluesKaj: cant find it in Intel17:58
VermuxBluesKaj: ok, I found the file from Asus. do I open it with the Ark?18:03
VermuxBluesKaj: Ive never installed a driver in linux18:03
BluesKaj what's the file extension ?18:04
Vermuxdows anybody know how to install a driver in kubuntu?18:05
Vermuxzip18:05
VermuxBluesKaj: ^18:05
BluesKajVermux, that's not a linux driver . that's windows18:06
Vermuxin the Ark it shows tar.bz218:07
BluesKajVermux, tar.gz or tar.bz2 or .run  or .bin or even a deb file , but not zip in linux18:07
VermuxBluesKaj: what do I do?18:07
ozziusshi18:07
Vermuxit showed zip18:07
BluesKajmake sure you download the linux driver18:07
Vermuxit is18:07
BluesKaj?18:07
Vermuxthe question is what to do? just open the file or I have to use adept_manager?18:08
ozziussi've got a problem. "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" << how to solve it?18:08
BluesKajthen try ark18:08
SlimeyPete!aptfix | ozziuss18:08
ubotuozziuss: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »18:08
razor__s18:08
BluesKajI have to go do some stuff..BB in an hr18:08
geniiozziuss: Before trying the aptfix ensure you do not have multiple windows open with a package manager. Also that a scheduled update is not going on18:09
ozziussubotu thx. it works.18:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thx. it works. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:11
VermuxBluesKaj: I have no idea which file to click on. which file is equivalent to .exe or set up.exe in win?18:11
ozziussok i got to go. thx a lot :)18:12
pirkoit seems after installation there are no /dev/sd* files and that's why kubuntu cannot start18:12
pirkoany idea how could it happen?18:13
pirkoand how to repair it?18:13
tuxihi18:15
tuxianyone noticed that after installing a plain gusty adept tries to upgrade the distribution?18:15
linux__i dont have sound in kubuntu7.1018:16
linux__soundcard realtek18:16
linux__what i need to do18:16
tuxihave you put up the volume in sound manager?18:17
linux__yes, volume on 10018:17
geniipirko: You installed to an sdX device, namely the usb drive. The grub settings on your internal hd are looking for a drive which likely you have unplugged or similar situation.18:17
tuxilook in kmix if all the mixers are up18:18
linux__all up18:18
pirkogenii: I installed on harddisk from USB18:19
pirkoyes the usb is now unplugged18:19
tuxiplease make an lspci and paste result18:19
tuxior upload to nopaste18:19
tuxiexecute in konsole as root18:19
pirkogenii: but if I plug the usb back nothing new happens, I can start to recovery mode and ls /dev/sd* gives nothing18:20
geniipirko: The link you gave earlier is not for installing to hard disk from usb. Perhaps you gave the wrong link18:20
geniipirko: eg: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/18:22
linux__00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)18:22
linux__00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)18:22
linux__00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)18:22
linux__00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)18:22
geniipirko: That is to install ubuntu onto a usb drive or stick. Not the other way around18:22
linux__00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02)18:22
linux__00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 02)18:22
linux__00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)18:23
linux__00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)18:23
linux__00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)18:23
suilinux__: wuah... stop spamming18:23
linux__00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)18:23
pirkogenii: yes I now it's not primary for installation on harddisk, but I used this to create bootable flash disk and then I run the installation from it.18:23
linux__00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)18:23
linux__00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2)18:23
linux__00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)18:23
linux__00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 02)18:23
linux__00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 02)18:23
linux__01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [GeForce Go 7400] (rev a1)18:23
DatalancheThat's easy to follow18:23
linux__05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)18:23
Datalanche;p18:23
linux__06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)18:23
linux__07:03.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller18:23
linux__07:03.1 Generic system peripheral [0805]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 19)18:23
linux__07:03.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 01)18:23
linux__07:03.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 0a)18:23
linux__07:03.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 05)18:23
jpatrick!paste | linux__18:25
ubotulinux__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:25
jpatricklinux__: please do not do that18:25
=== larsweyAW is now known as larswey
pirkogenii: you think that I install whole the system on that small flash and on my harddisk there is only grub loaded?18:26
geniipirko: I think whats happening is that when grub updated it included the ditribution which resides on the usb stick as the saved default to load first. When not found it eventually falls back through to recovery mode18:30
pirkogenii:aha so the system is installed but the grub doesn't knwo where it is?18:30
geniipirko: Also the scenario you say is possible. That the hd only has grub and no actual linux18:31
geniipirko: Either of the two situations are possible.18:31
pirkogenii:cool :-(, if the first scenario happened is there any way how to say grub wher may system is?18:31
pirkogenii: *where my system is...18:32
geniipirko: Yes, when in console of Recovery mode, do: sudo fdisk -l     and see what drive it says is Linux. eg: /dev/hda1 or so likely since you said there were no /dev/sdX devices18:34
geniipirko: Then edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst   file to replace where it has the usb drive specified, sda1 or such18:35
geniipirko: Actually no sudo is needed, since in Recovery mode. Just a habit on my part to put it.18:36
pirkogenii: ok I'll try it when it starts again, but what confuses me is that there is only one sata disk inside pc and i see ntohing like /dev/sda :-(18:36
geniipirko: If the sata hard drive controller is set in the bios to something like "Compatability" it will seem to Linux that the sata drive is an pata (regular ide drive) and it will use hda instead of sda18:37
eddymrkingbonjour a tous18:38
eddymrkingcomment ont fais pour installer amsn18:38
eddymrkingsur linux18:38
eddymrking?18:38
pirkogenii: fdisk -l says: /bin/sh: fdisk: not found18:39
pirkogenii: there are also no /dev/hd* devices18:39
nunohey i need some help18:40
geniipirko: Then we know now that the second thing is what has ahppened18:40
pirkogenii: may be I amo not realy in recovery console? The prompt looks like (initramfs)18:40
genii*happened18:40
MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!18:40
nunocan someone help me? xD18:40
MilhousePunkRockI recently upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy... Now the Konqueror mouse gestures don't work anymore :(18:40
nunoI need the intel pro wireless 3945ABG driver but i am a linux noob and i cant compile it xD18:41
pirkogenii: aha (initramfs) means that I am working only in RAM? hmm cool18:41
jussi01nuno: it should be installed by default18:42
nunojussi01 , it doesnt work18:42
pirkogenii: now I'll try to boot from usb again to see what's with my harddisk - to be sure that the secon scenario happened18:42
nunoIt cant connect to my access point18:43
geniipirko: The initial ramdisk which loads somewhere off your hd cannot determine where the operating system is, or else the driver needed to understand the hard disk controller is not provided in the file initrd so it fails and dumps you to a fake shell (busybox)18:44
jussi01nuno: try in terminal: sudo modprobe ipw394518:44
nunojussi01: kay18:44
nunoERROR: Cant find Intel Pro Wireless Connection18:45
pirkogenii: yeah that's my situation, now it do the same when trying to boot from USB :-(18:45
nunoIt isnt detecting it proprelly18:45
pirkogenii: any more advices what can I do next?18:46
geniipirko: Why did you try install from usb... no cdrom on that computer?18:47
pirkogenii: exactly there is no optical mechanic, it's ibm x61s18:47
geniipirko: Does the usb stick boot as expected, into linux?18:48
pirkogenii: yes it shows the first screen, when I select start live it fails to busybox18:49
geniipirko: Work requires me but I have not abandoned you, expect some lag please18:49
pirkogenii: ok, thanks18:50
Max_-I need to allow root to login in KDE *now*, anyone knows the trick?18:50
Max_-I've created a password and can use it in a shell18:50
nunoI need help again x_x18:51
jussi01nuno: hi18:51
tim8i'm having problem with hp LJ 1080 printer, what should i do?18:52
jussi01nuno: quick question, is the switch to turn wireless on, actually on? (if you have one)18:52
nunoYes18:52
sub[t]rnlMax_: kcontrol -> system administration -> login manager18:53
nunoKNetworkManager doesnt detect it18:53
jussi01nuno: sorry, happens all the time with people...18:53
nunoI belive but what should i do?18:53
tim8can someone help me with configering my printer HP LJ 1080?18:53
jussi01nuno: is it detected if you type ifconfig into the terminal?18:54
nunowait ill see18:54
jussi01!repeat | tim818:54
ubotutim8: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience18:54
bipolarMax_-: under the 'Users' tab, you need to change the 'Below' number to 0. note that this will show all the system users in the system, unless you specificly hide them.18:54
tim8 can someone help me with configering my printer HP LJ 1080?18:55
nunoit only detects the ethernet and the loopback local18:55
jussi01tim8: did you neot see the note from the bot?18:55
tim8bot??18:55
jussi01nuno: ok, Im not sure of it then. Im sorry.18:55
jussi01tim8: ubotu18:55
bipolarMax_-: also, I'm sure there is a better way to do whatever you need to do as root without running your entire kde session as root.18:56
nunoIts weird cuz it detected it like yesterday18:56
tim8sorry 4 that18:56
jussi01nuno: actually, do you use windows at all?18:56
nunoim using dual-boot18:56
nunokubuntu-XP18:56
jussi01nuno: have you booted into windows recently?18:57
nunoi installed kubuntu yesterday18:57
nunoand i didnt boot in windows yet18:57
nunoonly kubuntu18:58
Max_-bipolar: I'm trying to use k3b to burn a cd using the LiveCD... it was going to work but k3b said it didn't have the rights to do I don't remember what... so I thought if root started it it would work18:58
jussi01nuno: try this, it _may_ work, go into windows, use the wireless card, then shut down correctly. its weird I know, but it helped with someone I know.18:58
nunoIll try18:58
cathrinei have searched and read, but i need to ask: what is the right way of installing flash on kubuntu 7.10 today?18:58
jussi01!flash | cathrine18:58
ubotucathrine: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash18:58
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.18:58
bipolarMax_-: from the livecd?18:59
Max_-yes18:59
bipolarMax_-: you have 2 cdrom drives?18:59
nunoBut it worked yesterday , today i changed something and now the KNetworkManager says: Manual Network configuration18:59
Max_-nope, but loading k3b before ejecting looked like a good idea to me...18:59
cathrineubotu: do you know when the official fix will come?18:59
Michi!german18:59
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de18:59
jussi01!bot | cathrine18:59
ubotucathrine: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots18:59
bipolarMax_-: I don't *think* so... but it's been a while since I ran a livecd18:59
bipolarMax_-: I don't think you can safely eject the cdrom, and I beleve it's locked while you're running it.19:00
jussi01cathrine: we dont know for sure, sorry, i beleive its dependant on adobe.19:00
^TheCronoHello19:00
bipolarMax_-: otherwise the entire system would have to load into RAM19:00
nunojussi0119:00
Max_-bipolar: yes, it's locked but using eject in konsole does the job... well you're probably right, it won't work19:00
nunoit worked yesterday , today i changed something and now the KNetworkManager says: Manual Network configuration19:00
jussi01nuno: ?19:00
jussi01nuno: ahhh19:01
nunoMaybe its because of that?19:01
^TheCronoHow newer is the current version of kubuntu than ubuntu 5.10?19:01
jussi01nuno: very likely. go change back whatever you changed...19:01
nunoErm...19:01
llutz__^TheCrono: 2 yrs19:02
^TheCronoWow19:02
^TheCronoIts been that long sence i tried it.19:02
jussi01^TheCrono: lots... 5.10 = 2005 - 10 (oct) 7.10 = 2007 - 10 (oct)19:02
geniipirko: So to answer "does the usb stick boot to linux" , it does not boot into linux, but into again the busybox, correct?19:02
pirkogenii: correct it boots to busybox19:02
^TheCronoIs kubuntu the best distro for someone who knwos squat about the technical side of things? I had ubuntu before, and i lov3ed it, but getting soem things setup properly was beyond my ability.19:03
geniipirko: OK. You used originally another desktop/laptop computer with linux to make the usb stick?19:03
^TheCronoSo i went back to windows19:03
^TheCronobut now i want to try again. :d19:03
pirkogenii: sure I made it on my PC19:04
nunoI will try to boot on windows19:05
pirkogenii: just a note, because I was little bit lazy I didn't follow the article exactly and I just mounted the downloaded iso Instead of dionf things from live cd19:05
geniipirko: OK. We do not have with just the laptop and the usb stick enough tools to repair the problem. So the options seem: Create another usb stick somehow which is actually valid. or: Use PXE boot to install, from the other computer thru thernet cord onto the problemmatic one.19:06
^TheCronoI have a ubuntu 5.10 cd, should i install it then update and get kde, or is it better to just get kubuntu latest?19:07
geniipirko: I would recommend the PXE way if the laptop is capable of booting from network19:07
pirkogenii: PXE? I haven't heard about it, but the laptop is capable to boot from network19:09
ForgeAusthas what PXE is19:10
ForgeAuspre-execution environment19:10
Davieypirko: PXE is booting from the network19:10
geniipirko: Good.19:10
ForgeAusBartPE is one way I think at least XP does has another way but not sure how to make it...19:11
pirkogenii:definitely i found it on google, bu i've no experiences, so if can you can guide step by step i apprecieate19:11
ForgeAusassuming you want to boot into Windows that is19:11
ForgeAusChrono I'd recommend getting kubuntu but it is a big download...19:11
Davieypirko: If you find a guide for setting dhcp boot params on a win 2000 box - do let me know!19:11
* Daviey is a windows noob19:12
ForgeAusits probably easier to install the kubuntu-desktop package and remove the ubuntu-desktop package lol19:12
ForgeAusas long as you keep ubuntu-minimal along the way :)19:12
geniipirko: Instead I will give you a good website to follow and be around here for guidance19:12
geniipirko: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install19:13
pirkogenii: fine thanks a lot, I will try my best :-)19:13
ForgeAusKDE is nice, I havn't found Gnome any good for me at all....19:13
geniipirko: np  any questions just bring them to my attention19:13
theThemeHey I'm having a problem with my external hard drive.  I accidently turned it off while it was working and now I can't get it to mount.  It mounts in windows fine, but not kubuntu.  I can give the error message if someone can tell me how to use paste bin19:14
BluesKaj!pastebin | the theTheme19:16
ubotuthe theTheme: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:16
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earthcreedtheTheme:  Since you have it on windows, plug it in and then "safely remove"  This should make it mountable again.19:16
pirkogenii: regarding the netkit-inted package I can choose one of those: inetutils-inetd 2:1.5.dfsg.1-4 openbsd-inetd 0.20050402-6, does it matter which one?19:16
theThemethanks BluesKaj here's the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53068/ Is there some way I can force it to mount?19:17
genii!info netkit-inetd19:18
ubotuPackage netkit-inetd does not exist in gutsy19:18
geniibah19:18
pirkonetkid-inetd is metapackage19:18
BluesKajtheTheme, I think earthcreed may have a fix..read above19:18
pirkoso which of real packages?19:18
geniipirko: inetutils-inetd19:19
theThemeearthcreed: Hey, I did that a few times, but still get the same message19:19
^TheCronoIs a 5GB partition big enough for the kubuntu system?..leavign the otehr 75gb partition for doze/apps?19:19
theThemeBluesKaj: Thanks, I didn't see that19:19
tuxi^TheCrono, i would suggest at least 10gig19:21
^TheCronoHrm, that is a large chunk i guess, ltos of uninstaling to play games. But it would work.19:22
sub[t]rnl^TheCrono➜ A 5 gig partition for / is plenty.  The base linux system won't even come close to that mark for quite some time.  The majority of the partition should be given to /home.19:23
^TheCronoHeres a question, do i need to refort my entier drive?19:24
mani213how do i get mirc for linx?19:24
^TheCronoreformat*19:24
thomas_mani213: you dont19:24
^TheCronoMost distros come with it mani19:24
mani213so how do i download19:25
tuximani213, try xchat19:25
mani213stuff off mirc?19:25
mani213is it the same as mirc19:25
mani213to download stuff?19:25
thomas_mani213: konversation is quite good to19:25
tuxiit supports xdcc as far as i know19:25
BluesKajyes, konversation does dcc etc etc19:26
^TheCronoBecause i was jsut thinking of makeing a 5GB partition, and leaving the rest alone.19:26
mani213when i go on irc site to search19:26
mani213it doesnt paste19:26
mani213the file and open the chat room:S19:26
mani213like internet explore19:26
^TheCronoI wish my problems were this simple. Lol19:27
BluesKaj^TheCrono, seperate /home partition ?19:27
^TheCronoI guess that is what i am talking about Blues19:27
^TheCronoThere will be a total of two partitions.19:27
^TheCrono1 with linux, 1 with doze/apps/data19:27
^TheCronoDo i need to reformat the second partition with doze/apps/data?19:28
mani213whats the compiz room called?19:28
BluesKaj^TheCrono, do you have a windows partition now ?19:28
^TheCronoYes, i'm cutting the Linux oen from that.19:28
^TheCronoI need Windows for several Games.19:29
^TheCronoAnd VB19:29
ForgeAustry #Compiz19:29
pirkogenii: dhcpd failed to start19:29
jussi01mani213: #compiz-fusion19:29
ForgeAusactually it directed me to #compiz-fusion19:29
ForgeAusyeah Jussi :) thats the one19:29
jussi01:)19:30
jussi01!compiz > ForgeAus19:30
pirkogenii: and can't find the apropriate log, in messages, the re is no error :-(19:30
BluesKajright, then use bootable GParted Live CD partition editor to do the resizing and ext3-linux formatting for you ...you can download and burn it19:30
^TheCronoIt really all depends on what Wine can run..if it can run everything, i won't even need windows.19:30
ForgeAushehe you didn't need to send me that jussi19:30
ForgeAusnothing new there19:30
^TheCronoHow big is the entier Kubuntu distro?19:31
BluesKaj^TheCrono, did you see the above about Gparted ?19:31
ForgeAusoh a few odd hundred meg like about 7 or so19:31
^TheCronoYes.19:31
^TheCronoI want to burn the distro onto a cd, but i only got cdrw19:32
^TheCronoWill one cd do it?19:32
ForgeAusyes19:32
SlimeyPeteyes, one cd will do it19:32
ForgeAustheres a LiveCD of the distro19:32
^TheCronoAnd does the distro come with this Gparted?19:32
ForgeAuspurpose built to fit on a CD lol19:32
borncrazyhi19:32
thomas_ejp19:32
thomas_jep19:32
ForgeAusno19:32
ForgeAusit comes with QTparted19:33
jussi01thomas_: ??19:33
^TheCronoIs that any better/worse?19:33
ForgeAusubuntu comes with gparted19:33
thomas_same19:33
borncrazywhen i plug my usb memory in the usb port nothing happens19:33
ForgeAusits a matter of preference the backend is the same19:33
BluesKaj^TheCrono, well I'm using about 14G , but i have quite a few apps installed and if you like to save video media etc on your drive then I'd suggest aminimum of 30-40G for Linux19:33
ForgeAus(both are pretty much just glossy views of the parted commandline tool at some level)19:33
^TheCronoNah,my computer is msotly for Games and Music...most of my music is in Mp3 format, unless its sampels, but ive only about a gig of those.19:34
ForgeAusCrono its built into the installer too19:34
theThemeOk, so i've been tinkering with it for a little bit, and my external hard drive doesn't show up (sdb1) in fstab, is that the reason I can't mount it and how do I fix it?19:34
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borncrazydo i need to mount it manually?   if  the answer is yes i would like to know how i do that.19:34
^TheCronoThat is another reason i need windows, for my DAW, but, i have been looking at what seems to be a nice Linux DAW i may switch to.19:34
jussi01!ubuntustudio | ^TheCrono19:35
ubotu^TheCrono: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org19:35
ForgeAuswhats a DAW?19:35
^TheCronoThen, the only reason i need windows is for..um..i dunno, simcity 4 heh19:35
ForgeAusIC19:35
^TheCronoDigital Audio Workstation..like Fruityloops or Cubase19:35
ForgeAushehe fruityloops :) loved that program ...19:35
ForgeAushavn't used it for a while tho19:35
^TheCronoI use it now19:35
jussi01^TheCrono: I suggest seriously you have a look at ubuntu studio19:36
^TheCronoIs ubuntu studio a hwole nother distro or jsut a package collection? [I'm kinda a noob on all this]19:36
anton_How do I use a USB-memorystick in kubuntu?19:36
Davieyanton_: try inserting it19:36
ftalonI just installed the nvidia driver, and now im stuck in 1024x768 resolution, how can I make it go to 1600x1200 like it was before I installed this driver?19:37
anton_Yeah, and what is next step?19:37
jussi01^TheCrono: have a look at what the bot said a moment ago...19:37
^TheCronoko19:37
BluesKaj^TheCrono , check out Ardour (audio processor) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardour_%28audio_processor%2919:38
BluesKajubuntu studio is a distro yes19:38
^TheCronoArdour is what i was looking at before19:38
andrew_hello all19:39
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borncrazyso, can anyone help me?19:40
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ForgeAusborn I don't know much about USB in *nix sorry19:40
awag22i just installed a new motherboard, and i'm using the same ide drives, but now my harddrives show up as sda1 and sdb1 isntead of hda1 and hdb1... i thought sda* was only for scsi stuff19:40
borncrazywhen i plu my usb meomry in the usb port nothing happens. do i need to mount it manually? if the answer is yes i would like to know how i do that. :p19:41
jussi01!tab > ForgeAus19:41
pirkogenii: ok I am prepared, but dhcpd still not run :-(19:41
borncrazyForgeAus: okay19:41
llutzborncrazy: pmount /dev/<device>19:41
anton_Borncrazy, see Kubuntu-se ! I've got an answer for you there19:41
BluesKajawag22, does everything work ok ?19:41
awag22BluesKaj: yeah :)19:41
awag22just makes me uneasy19:42
ginghalló ég er ging19:42
borncrazyborncrazy: okay :)19:42
ForgeAusI already knew about tab completion jussi, I simply don't use it19:42
borncrazyi mean anton_19:42
anton_Hehe19:42
jussi01ForgeAus: ok, but it makes things much easier on people if you do...19:42
ForgeAusnot that I havn't given it a go before19:42
BluesKajawag22, then don't worry about it ...my hda switched to sda when I tried mepis ,,then back to hda when I returned to kubuntu19:42
awag22BluesKaj: ok thanks, is there a command line command that shows ide devices that are connected even if they aren't mounted?19:43
ForgeAuslol Blues, Mepis thought it was something like a Sata or Raid or SCSI device19:43
BluesKajawag22, dmesg | grep hd19:44
BluesKajForgeAus, mepis was ok , but a bit lame19:45
ForgeAusyeah I think I breifly tried it19:45
pirkohey anyone knows how to figure otu why /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start fails on 7.10 or at elast how to find it out?19:45
ForgeAusKubuntu still comes out ontop in my list of fav distros19:45
^TheCronoSo, i'm getting kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso19:45
^TheCronothat's it?19:45
anton_Hmm, you got 2 install it 219:46
^TheCronoOf courswe.19:46
^TheCrono:D19:46
anton_Heh :D19:46
anton_How is your hardware?19:46
^TheCronoMine?19:46
anton_Yeah19:46
^TheCronoWell, will i be killed for a system script?19:46
^TheCronoIts ok i guess, though19:47
anton_Maybee you should got alternative-cd if yoy got bad RAM.19:47
^TheCronoi got 1.5gb ddr19:47
^TheCronois that enough?19:47
anton_Ah, okej. Ofc!19:47
^TheCrono2.5ghz celeron19:47
^TheCronoati x1300 25619:47
^TheCronoand an 80gb HD19:47
anton_Yeah, use the normal Kubuntu 7.10, dont need alternative-cd19:47
pirkook my dhcp won't start because: No subnet declaration for eth1 (192.168.1.15)19:47
anton_Okej, 've you usd any linuxdist before?19:48
^TheCronodoes ubuntu still mail out 5-10 cd packets?19:48
^TheCronoIve used ubuntu 5.1019:48
pirkoI'm not experienced in dhcpd, please somebody give me a hint, what should i do19:48
jpatrick^TheCrono: yes, via shipit see topic19:48
anton_Ah, okej..19:48
anton_Why not download?19:48
^TheCronoman, 5.10 was a pain in the butt19:48
^TheCronoI am downloading19:48
^TheCronoi was jsut cruious.19:49
anton_Okey, aah, okey!19:49
^TheCronoI also used knoppix19:49
anton_ok19:49
^TheCronofrom the same era as ubuntu 5.1019:49
Vermuxwho can help me?19:49
anton_Okay19:49
anton_With?19:49
BluesKajkubuntu didn't really catch my fancy til dapper19:49
Vermuxwhen I do log out , Im getting a black screen with messages19:49
^TheCronoI'ma need help on partition stuff later though19:49
anton_Okey, are you gona use Windows 2?19:50
fireknightsalve19:51
BluesKaj^TheCrono, make sure you keep windows where it is as first partition , shrink it to whatever you need then reformat the remainder to ext3 and maybe a 2G linux swap file at the end19:51
anton_Make sure you got at least 2 partions, so you can but kubuntu on one and i you use windows you can choose witch one to boot in GRUB as starts automaticly when computer starts.19:51
fireknightqualcuno che parla italiano?19:52
anton_Nope, no italiano here19:52
thomas_!it19:52
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!19:52
fireknightgrazie19:52
SlimeyPeteVermux: what messages?19:52
thomas_newbie__If I want to use my apache server to hose a forum, should I encode it, or get like a template?19:53
^TheCronoHopefully, if all things can work in kubuntu i won't need windows..and well..mission complete! :D19:53
SlimeyPetethomas_newbie__: encode? you mean code?19:53
thomas_newbie__SlimeyPete: yea19:53
^TheCronoDepends how good Wine is.19:53
^TheCronoWine was garbage when i tried it before.19:53
thomas_thomas_newbie__: yeah encode it ;)19:53
SlimeyPetethomas_newbie__: normal thing to do is grab something like phpBB I think, no point coding your own if you don't have to19:53
thomas_newbie__SlimeyPete: ok so you think phpBB is best19:54
BluesKajdunno about games on wine ...some ppl here think it's ok19:54
SlimeyPetedunno about "best" but it's popular19:54
thomas_BluesKaj: some are ok other aren't19:54
ForgeAuswhether you like wine or not depends on your needs19:54
Vermux_when I try to log out from kubuntu Im getting a text screen with messages19:55
^TheCronoi mainly need to know about WoW/Simcity 4..and GTASA19:55
ForgeAuserm TheCrono sounds like you might have trouble then19:55
SlimeyPeteVermux: what messages?19:55
Vermux_starting K Display manager: kdm19:55
^TheCronoWhcih is why i am keeping windows jsut incase.19:55
Vermux_in the middle of the screen there is the following message: nn: /etc/rc2.d/s20powernowd: 156: cannot create /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0//cpufreq/scaling_governor:derectory non existent19:55
Vermux_cpu frequency scaling not supported19:56
^TheCronowow, halflife 2 is on the platnum list19:56
^TheCronoruns perfectly.19:56
Vermux_then it keeps showing some more messages and says there are ok19:56
ForgeAusI always thought it was strange that they made a halflife 219:56
ForgeAuswouldn't that be a full life?19:56
^TheCronoLol19:57
SlimeyPeteVermux: does the login screen not re-appear?19:57
^TheCronoLooks like simcity 4 will be a windows app from now on...unelss it gets better support19:57
Vermux_Lovecraft: SlimeyPete no19:57
ForgeAushehe Crono its not better support from wine that it needs its just more compatibility probaly means it was poorly coded to begin with lol19:58
Vermux_SlimeyPete: no19:58
ForgeAus(well more aptly said that it was coded for windows never really meant to run in Linux in the first place)19:58
BluesKajForgeAus, or 1/4 life :)19:58
^TheCronoWell, simcity and simctiy 3k work under unix anyways..i hope they fix that for 419:59
ForgeAusBlues, thats halfing a halflife19:59
pirkogenii: are u still here?19:59
ForgeAusthat would be halflife 0.5 :)19:59
SlimeyPeteVermux_: well, the powernowd thing shouldn't be causing the problem. Are there any other messages?19:59
rotinihello all.  In KDE's System Settings it's possible to control services.  Is that a reliable way to do it?19:59
^TheCronoThough, there is a linux Simcity clone, but imho not very good right now.19:59
Vermux_SlimeyPete: cpu frequency is not supported19:59
ForgeAusyeah lincity isn't really a substitute I'd recommend20:00
SlimeyPete^TheCrono: there are two now. Lincity and Metropolis (which is the proper SimCity, ported)20:00
SlimeyPetethough Metropolis is a very recent port20:00
^TheCronoMetropolis..never heard of it20:00
ForgeAusbut some new games put simcity's citybuilding to shame...20:00
Vermux_the last message is Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)20:00
Vermux_SlimeyPete: ^20:00
^TheCronohttp://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=408820:00
SlimeyPeteit's SimCity under a different name, ^TheCrono. The code was released but the name is still trademarked20:00
^TheCronotheres this though20:00
Vermux_SlimeyPete: and I dont have the command prompt20:00
^TheCronoSimcity one? :D20:01
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SlimeyPete^TheCrono: yup ;)20:01
ForgeAusI liked simcity200020:01
ForgeAusand simearth20:01
SlimeyPeteVermux_: the messages are normal then. If you press alt-f2 at that point, can you log in?20:01
ForgeAusafter that I never really seemed to get into the ones that come afterwards20:01
BigTmhh kann mir hier jemand den channel für den deutschen kubuntu chan sagen ?20:02
SlimeyPete!de20:02
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de20:02
Vermux_SlimeyPete: I didnt have those messages ever bofore20:02
Vermux_SlimeyPete: yes, I can log in20:02
SlimeyPeteVermux_: they're just part of the boot process, I see them all the time myself.20:02
Vermux_SlimeyPete: I never saw them20:02
Vermux_SlimeyPete: and believe me, Im booting a lot..hehehe20:02
SlimeyPeteVermux_: try "less /var/log/kdm.log"20:03
SlimeyPetesee if there are errors in there20:03
Vermux_SlimeyPete: yes20:03
SlimeyPeteVermux_: There are errors? What do they say?20:04
^TheCronoThey haven't found a way to run two OSes at once yet..so you can jsut alt-tab esque between them for apps etc?20:04
^TheCronoI suppose that would require a system of its own....20:04
SlimeyPeteyou can do it with a VM20:05
Vermux_SlimeyPete: 4812 x : client 17 rejected from local host (uid 1000). Also, client 220:05
SlimeyPeteeg virtualbox20:05
^TheCronoCan you do that to switch between kubuntu and doze?20:06
Vermux_SlimeyPete: also I found: fatal server error: caught signal 11. server aborting20:06
SlimeyPeteVermux_: hrm, that is probably the cause of the problem. I am afraid I do not know how to fix it. If you use google and the ubuntu forums to search for the errors, you may find something.20:06
Alienoany italian's channel?20:06
SlimeyPeteSorry I can't be more help.20:06
SlimeyPete!it20:06
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!20:06
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Vermux_SlimeyPete: thanks20:08
Vermux_does anybody know what to do?20:08
Vermux_SlimeyPete: Im rebooting, and will try to log in to gui as root and then log out20:11
anton_Anyone as got a nice filesharing program to recommend?20:12
ForgeAusyou can do it Crono20:12
ForgeAusbut for your purposes 3D is the problem20:12
BluesKajanton_, look in the kmenu for ktorrent20:12
SlimeyPeteanton_: amule, ktorrent20:12
ForgeAusVirtualization often doesn't do 3D well, you'll have to check the docs to find specifics20:13
SlimeyPeteVMWare does DirectX but only under a Windows host IIRC20:13
AlcapondI Have problems with the desktop-effect in KDE4. I have ATI-Card and OpenGL says it's working, but shows no desktop effects. Thx for help!20:13
SlimeyPeteit won't convert oGL -> DX20:13
^TheCronoDoes utorrent run on kubuntu?20:13
Vermux_SlimeyPete: ok, the resolution is screwed now20:14
anton_Yeah, but i dont want to fileshare via torrents20:14
anton_I wont to use like limewire20:14
Vermux_cant do anything20:14
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^TheCronoslsk/ares work id imagen in Wine20:14
anton_Ok, i like ares20:14
ForgeAusSlimyPete no fair I'm pretty sure the other way around works20:14
anton_It's nice20:14
^TheCronotry it in wine20:14
^TheCronoares is by no means a complicated program20:15
gmpfv20:15
ForgeAusbut I don't think its translating DX -> OGL20:15
SlimeyPeteVermux_: erk, oh dear. Does the same thing happen when you don't log in as root?20:15
anton_Complicated, ares? :O20:15
^TheCronoDo i need to do extra things in kubuntu for mp3 support?20:15
SlimeyPete!mp320:15
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats20:15
SlimeyPeteI think you have to enable restricted formats asper above20:16
SlimeyPetebut I can't quite remember (it's been a while)20:16
^TheCronoIve no clue how to do that.20:16
SlimeyPetethat page will show you, I think.20:16
Vermux_SlimeyPete: Im checking now20:16
SlimeyPete^TheCrono: ah, seems to be ubuntu-only20:17
anton_The crono, yes, but use audacious instead20:17
^TheCronoaudacious?20:17
^TheCronoinstead of what?20:17
^TheCronoHeh.20:17
anton_Yes, to play mp3-files20:18
anton_Instead of amarok20:18
Vermux_SlimeyPete: no, it is fine as a user20:18
^TheCronoamarok>?20:18
Vermux_SlimeyPete: what do I do?20:18
^TheCronoanton,you have lost me20:18
^TheCrono:(20:18
^TheCronoLet me jsut get kubuntu install and working first, heh20:18
SlimeyPeteVermux_: that's very odd - it should be using the same configuration for both. I think you may have some strange permissions issue on your system or something.20:19
^TheCronoHrm, does kubuntu come with ethernet drivers?20:19
^TheCronoor how does that work?20:19
SlimeyPeteif you haven't looked on the forums yet then I'd recommend doing so, and maybe make a post there about it20:19
Vermux_SlimeyPete: yes, I had to change some permissions earlier due to a problem20:19
SlimeyPete^TheCrono: yes, the kernel has many drivers built in20:19
^TheCronoChances are my standard ethernet card will work?..what about ati drivers?20:19
SlimeyPeteVermux_: what did you change?20:19
Vermux_SlimeyPete: I couldnt get into Aministrative mode with the userName20:19
anton_Ah, okay, i thought u got probs with playing .mp3files? :P20:20
Vermux_SlimeyPete: I dont exactly remember20:20
^TheCronoiwill anton_20:20
SlimeyPete^TheCrono: yes, the chances are good. ATI should work OK by default but for 3D you'll need to install the restricted ATI drivers.20:20
^TheCronojsut not yet :D20:20
SlimeyPete!ati20:20
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto20:20
^TheCronoby restricted to you mean illegal?20:20
SlimeyPeteno, closed-source.20:20
Vermux_SlimeyPete: also I had a problem with the sound, it didnt work20:20
awag22is there a way to set your max swap usage size to lower than the size of the swap partition?20:21
anton_Ok, if u got probs with mp3 files, use audacious?20:21
^TheCronoIt seems kub untu comes with an app that does all this20:21
Vermux_SlimeyPete: I changed something in group audio20:21
pirkogenii: hi are you still here? probably I need help I already setup my tftpd but i got TFTP open timeout on client20:22
SlimeyPeteVermux_: if I were you I would put a post on the forums. Try to remember what you did and write it there, then describe your problem. There are lots of forum users out there and one of them may have encountered the same problem.20:22
SlimeyPeteit sounds like a weird one to me20:22
ForgeAusI can't find much info on this metropolis simcity port20:22
SlimeyPeteForgeAus: yeah, it's a bit new20:22
^TheCronoi remember before it was like go into root, type "//r/f//avhs//-s-f-4/com"..then google for spamnetsomethingkey and paste it into root, and then aptget someshitprogram1.5 because 1.6 had a bug...blah blah20:22
Vermux_SlimeyPete: yes, I worked in safe graphics mode while changing these settings20:23
pirkoI'm trying to provide netboot installation on my machine but still got TFTP open timeout, does anynone know how to find out the cause?20:23
^TheCronoJust to get mp3 working20:23
SlimeyPeteForgeAus: woops, Micropolis20:23
Vermux_SlimeyPete: is there away to delete everything without reinstalling kubuntu. just restor the default settings?20:23
jussi01!language | ^TheCrono20:23
ubotu^TheCrono: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.20:23
^TheCronoOops20:24
fhdhi! just wondering: is there kopete (mainly kmail) in kde 4.0? the packages available in apt don't install for me...20:24
SlimeyPeteVermux_: not really, but try: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg; sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"20:24
SlimeyPeteit *might* fix things20:24
Vermux_ok20:24
jussi01fhd: kde4 support > #kubuntu-kde420:24
geniipirko: I am back hopefully. Some network problems and also work occupied me , apologies20:25
fhdjussi01: thank you! (and sorry)20:25
jussi01:)20:25
oreth|ok20:25
oreth|i installed MythBuntu over my Kubuntu installation20:25
oreth|now my K menu is BARREN20:25
Vermux_SlimeyPete: nothing happans when I type those20:25
oreth|and all my file associations are GONE20:25
pirkogenii: no problem, I'm just done with the manual provided, but it seems somethiong is wrong, because i got TFTP open timeout20:26
SlimeyPeteVermux_: nothing at all? No messages?20:26
ForgeAuslol micropolis was the original name simcity was going to be called20:26
Vermux_SlimeyPete: no20:26
ForgeAusbut its just a basic one... nothing like simcity420:26
geniipirko: So you have a directory: /var/lib/tftpboot  ?20:26
pirkogenii: ps ax | grep tftp gives ntohing20:26
Vermux_SlimeyPete: it just skipped to the next line (In konsole)20:26
pirkogenii: yes I have that directory, but not sure if tftpd is running20:27
faithful_one i just downloaded the restricted drivers for my video card, and now, gnome isn't finding it or displaying it correctly, how do i put the drivers back the way they were?20:27
SlimeyPeteVermux_: hmm. Try rebooting anyway. I can't remember if it's supposed to print some messages or not.20:27
pirkogenii:ls /var/lib/tftpboot/386  boot.img.gz  mini.iso  netboot.tar.gz  pxelinux.0  pxelinux.cfg  ubuntu-installer20:27
oreth|is there anyway to REBUILD kde?20:27
oreth|so that all my apps and stuff are in teh K menu and my file associations are there?20:28
pirkogenii: dhcpd semms to be up because the laptop obtains the IP20:28
oreth|i can't even open an mp3 or run a python script anymore20:28
SlimeyPetefaithful_one: if you used an automated tool to do it, then there is probably a backup of your configuration. You'll need to overwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf with the backup file(which is probablyalso in /etc/X11/)20:28
faithful_oneSlimeyPete: ok, how do i do it?20:29
geniipirko: Did you edit the /etc/default/tftpd-hpa file so the line in it reads: RUN_DAEMON="yes"        and next line: OPTIONS="-l -c -p -s /var/lib/tftpboot -u root"                          ?20:29
trappist:q20:29
faithful_oneSlimeyPete: what commands do i use?20:29
Vermux_SlimeyPete: I rebooted. it is fine. now I'll try logging off20:29
SlimeyPetefaithful_one: first of all: "cd /etc/X11" then hit return then type "ls" and hit return20:29
SlimeyPetetell me if there are any xorg.conf files there20:30
pirkogenii: no because there was /etc/inetd.conf20:30
pirkogenii: give a minute i check the second possiblity too20:30
geniipirko: If tftpd is not enabled in that file it does not matter if inetd calls it or not20:30
Vermux_SlimeyPete: getting the same messages again20:31
anton_Go Go Sweden !!!20:31
^TheCronoso 5GB is enough for kubuntu?20:31
^TheCronoi want to be sure20:31
SlimeyPeteVermux_: oh dear, it didn't work then, sorry. I can't think of any more advice to give you I'm afraid.20:31
SlimeyPete^TheCrono: yes, you can fit it in 5GB.20:31
Vermux_ok, thans20:31
Vermux_thanks20:31
SlimeyPetenot a huge amount of room to breath, but it'll do20:31
^TheCrono7GB ok?20:31
pirkogenii: aha now understand, i have chnged no to yes, should i run something now?20:31
genii^TheCrono: Yes enough. Although you may run out of room if you install many things or do not clear out /var/cache/apt/archives     on occasion20:31
faithful_onethere is xorg.cong and xorg.conf.1, .2, .3, .failsafe,& .failsafe.bak20:32
^TheCronoi am wanting to know, because as it stands, i have abrely a gig left..so that means some stuff has got to go, heh, but jsut how much20:32
geniipirko: Yes.   sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start20:32
^TheCronoi'll do a 7gb partition20:32
SlimeyPete^TheCrono: I have used 3.8GB on this laptop, which has been running Kubuntu Gutsy for a few months.20:32
SlimeyPetebut I don't download many files etc20:32
^TheCronoi'llprolly tget alot,lol..i'll do 720:33
faithful_oneSlimeyPete: there is xorg.cong and xorg.conf.1, .2, .3, .failsafe,& .failsafe.bak20:33
Vargothhello20:33
SlimeyPetefaithful_one: "sudo cp -p xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf"20:33
SlimeyPetefaithful_one: then enter your normal user password20:33
mark_can anyone help with and external HDD issue?20:33
Vargothi have a problem with compiz, when i activate compiz, and deaktivate "windows decoration", then i can't see any titles of my windows any more20:34
faithful_oneSlimeyPete: ok, then reboot?20:34
^TheCronoHere is a question, if i free up 8 gigs, and tell the program i want 7 gigspartition..willit partition thew free space or overwirte other stuff?20:34
SlimeyPetefaithful_one: no need to reboot, just do "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"20:34
SlimeyPetefaithful_one: if it doesn't work then try doing the same with xorg.conf.2, .3 etc20:34
SlimeyPeteuntil it works20:34
faithful_oneSlimeyPete: would gdm work the same way?20:34
mark_Vargoth PM me!20:34
SlimeyPetefaithful_one: yes, just substitute gdm for kdm20:35
pirkogenii: done but still the same problem20:35
BluesKaj^TheCrono, what partition editor are you using ?20:35
pirkogenii:where can I found the log from tftpd?20:35
^TheCronowhat ever coems with kubuntu20:35
Vargothi deactivated "windows decoration", because it has a big border around my kde task bar20:35
geniipirko: list again the files in /var/lib/tftpboot20:36
^TheCronoqtpart i think20:36
^TheCronoor soemthing20:36
BluesKajoh bummer , b=never used qtparted ..always use GParted Live CD ...excellent app20:36
pirkogenii: drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2007-10-16 01:21 386 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9018633 2007-10-16 00:21 boot.img.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9512960 2007-10-16 00:21 mini.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9002347 2007-10-16 00:21 netboot.tar.gz lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 2008-01-22 20:40 pxelinux.0 -> ubuntu-installer/i386/pxelinux.0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-01-22 21:07 pxelinux.cfg drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2007-10-15 23:59 ubuntu-installer20:36
pirkooh20:36
mark_make an executable bash file containing this code20:36
oreth|anybody?20:36
mark_#!/bin/bash20:36
mark_compiz --replace &20:36
mark_sleep520:36
mark_emerald --replace20:36
pirkogenii: 386 boot.img.gz mini.iso netboot.tar.gz pxelinux.0 pxelinux.cfg ubuntu-installer20:36
oreth|my K menu is completely empty20:37
geniipirko: no need for the ls -l   , just  ls       would have worked20:37
mark_and put it in ~/.kde/Autostart20:37
oreth|is there a way to repopulate it?20:37
Vargoththank you mark_20:37
Vargothi'm going to try this now20:37
BluesKajoreth|, install kubuntu-desktop?20:38
^TheCronothey said kubuntu comes with gparted20:38
oreth|apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?20:38
oreth|and that will "re-install" my kde setup?20:38
BluesKajjust the kubuntu default apps20:39
oreth|well20:39
oreth|when I try to open "my computer" or whatever it is...20:39
^TheCronoLol20:39
oreth|it brings up a dialogue "OPEN WITH"20:39
geniipirko: please use now the pastebin website and put there for me to look at the contents of:   /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default20:39
genii!paste | pirko20:39
ubotupirko: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:40
mark_whenever i try to connect to my external hdd it says hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 100020:40
BluesKajoreth|, my computer...do you mean the Kmenu ?20:40
Vargothdoes bash files need a file extension?20:40
oreth|Blues: there's the K menu... and then the "system" menu, i guess20:40
mark_nope20:40
oreth|where you can access Home, Network, Storage Media20:41
faithful_oneSlimeyPete: ok, i did have to reboot my system, and now everything seems to be back to normal, thanx20:41
Vargothok, why is this neccessary?20:41
BluesKajthe kmenu is where all the apps are listed20:41
SlimeyPetefaithful_one: :)20:41
oreth|clicking on any of those Icons brings up an "Open With" dialogue20:41
Vargothmake it executable means, to set them the rights 777 ?20:41
oreth|Blues: I have no apps listed20:41
Vargothor can i give the bash script a lower level right20:41
faithful_oneSlimeyPete: the system did kick out an error tho, and it's one that i've seen quite a bit of...20:41
faithful_oneThere was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.20:41
faithful_oneSome things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly.20:41
faithful_oneThe last error message was:20:41
faithful_oneDid not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.20:41
faithful_oneGNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in.20:41
BluesKaj!kmenu20:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmenu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:41
foxshadow220:41
pirkogenii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53077/plain/20:41
faithful_oneSlimeyPete: any way to get that fixed too? :)20:42
geniipirko: OK, reading20:42
BluesKaj!K Menu20:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about k menu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:42
mark_right click and the second tab there a box to make it executable20:42
SlimeyPetefaithful_one: that does sound a little odd, but I don't know how to fix it. You're better off asking Gnome-related stuff in #ubuntu.20:42
BluesKaj!info kmenu20:42
ubotuPackage kmenu does not exist in gutsy20:42
Vargoththx mark_20:42
mark_np20:42
oreth|blues: i understand what the kmenu is20:42
faithful_oneSlimeyPete: ok, i'll check there, thanx20:42
Vargothdo i need to update or install a graphic driver, to get more fps in games? i have a ati radeon 900020:43
oreth|blues: http://www.seopher.com/images/kubuntu/menu.png20:43
oreth|the k-menu is what's selected20:43
oreth|i have only the items listed under ACTIONS20:43
oreth|everything else is blank20:43
oreth|the menu to the left.. the system menu20:43
oreth|if I click any of those icons, it brings up the "open with" dialogue20:43
^TheCronowill kubuntu be able to use my windows install of firefox for mt favorites and stuff etc etc?20:43
^TheCronomy*20:44
reverend_joshuai can't seem to get amarok to play mp3s20:44
^TheCrono!mp320:44
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats20:44
faTehi20:45
^TheCronohi20:45
mark_also make sure you installed compiz-kde, not compiz-fusion20:45
faTecan somebody help me with pidgin on kubuntu 7.10 ?20:45
oreth|what's wrong with your pidgin install?20:46
ForgeAusCrono you might be able to import them if your lucky but otherwise no20:46
ForgeAusreally favourites in windows are just saved as shortcuts to urls anyway20:46
Vargothok, i'm going to UnInstall compiz fusion20:46
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faTeoreth|: not relly with the install, more with the xfire plugin20:47
faTei can't install it20:47
faTeand i'm a noob and don't know real to compile20:47
oreth|xfire being the online community for gamers?20:47
Vargothcompiz fusion are only plugins right?20:47
Vargothare compiz fusion plugins not compatible with compiz-kde?20:48
faTeoreth|: yes this xfire20:48
mark_kdoes anyone know how to play back xvid files?20:48
SlimeyPete!xvid20:48
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats20:48
SlimeyPetemark_: most linux media players should do it20:49
SlimeyPetevlc will, certainly20:49
mark_sudo apt-get install compiz-kde emerald compizconfig-settings-manager20:49
oreth|faTe: are there instructions somewherre?20:49
mark_sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra20:49
faTeoreth|: i seached it, but i'm now asking in #pidgin, maybe somebody can help me there, but i found no intructions20:50
oreth|hrm20:50
pirkogenii: what about firewall could be the problem?20:52
Vargoththx mark_ i deleted all previous compiz installation and install now yours20:53
^TheCronowow, i emptied my recyle bin, and i gained 20 gigs..heh20:54
mark_you got it working20:54
mark_?20:54
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pirkogenii: I found something in dameon.log20:54
reverend_joshuai cannot find libxine-extracodecs in synaptic20:55
Vargothnot sure, i'm going to reboot now, and then i will tell you ^^20:55
pirkogenii: cannot bind to local socket: Address already in use Jan 22 21:35:01 habr in.tftpd[6190]: received address was not AF_INET, please check your inetd config Jan 22 21:35:01 habr inetd[5162]: /usr/sbin/in.tftpd: exit status 0x4c00 and many similar messages20:56
Vargothi'm back in 3 minutes20:56
sub[t]rnlreverend_joshua➜ are you using gutsy?20:56
mark_run compiz --relace20:56
mark_replace*20:56
reverend_joshuadapper20:56
BluesKajreverend_joshua,  Open adept package manager, On the menu of that screen you will want to click on Adept -> Manage    Repositories, click the kubuntu software tab, check all the boxes "X",same goes for the third party software tab. Close,and then in the terminal "sudo apt-get update".Now you have more sources for applications other than the defaults that came with Kubuntu20:56
AdamBrightOk i was reading all the linux on xbox 1 stuff but its all horribly out of date, has anyone gotten a recent version of kubuntu working on the xbobxx, say gutsy?20:57
Vargothi'm back :)21:00
Vargothat the startup, the 3d desktop effects wasn't loaded21:00
mark_run compiz --replace21:01
VargothChecking for nVidia: not present.21:02
VargothChecking for FBConfig: present.21:02
VargothChecking for Xgl: not present.21:02
mark_you need to install your GFX driver21:02
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mark_open up the restriced driver manager in the system setting21:03
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Vargothbut compiz is running, but only witout a window title21:04
geniipirko: One minute still, making a new file for you21:04
mark_did you install the gfx driver?21:04
Vargothno21:05
mark_thats a must21:05
anton_anyone as know a server I can use in aMule?21:05
pirkogenii: I am also analyzing again the hwole thing and I am not sure about the /ect/inetd.conf21:05
SatManUK!wifi21:06
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs21:06
pirkogenii: why there is twice /usr/sbin/in.tftpd ? may be it as a typo?21:06
Vargoththe system told me, that i'm not using restricted drivers21:06
mark_yeah, install them, their restriced because their not open source21:07
Vargothso I must install the ATI drivers manually?21:07
mark_you can, its very simple21:07
Vargothmy list in restricted hardware is emtpy21:07
faTe"configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" <---what means this, what am i needing?21:07
mark_http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html21:07
Vargothok, thanks for the link, i'm downloading the packet21:08
mark_kk21:08
mark_just run sudo sh *.run21:09
Vargothshould I use the automatic or the manually installation?21:10
mark_automatic21:10
faTe"configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" <---what means this, what am i needing21:10
SatManUKim back in england, and i need to setup a wireless network on one of the pc's (pracitce run for when my own pc is couriered over later in this week)/21:10
SatManUKI have a belkin wireless card21:10
tuxihi21:10
SatManUKbut kubunutu can't identify exactly what it is21:11
fhdhi21:11
Vargothhi21:11
tuxianyone knows the command for the nvidia driver manager21:11
SatManUK(its one i just found lying around :)21:11
fhdtuxi: nvidia-settings21:11
Vargothinstalled21:11
mark_now reboot21:11
tuxino i mean to install the driver21:11
SatManUKany suggestions on how best to install this card?21:11
SatManUKit reports its a belkin unkown 700f21:12
tuxianything like commercial driver thingy21:12
tuxiSatManUK: did you google for it21:12
fhdtuxi: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx    should be the one. not sure, installed it with restricted manager last time21:12
fhdtuxi: restricted-manager-kde     that tool should list the card and install the driver on demand21:12
tuxisearched the restricted manager ;-d so thanks21:12
Vargothok, i'm back in 3 minutes again :)21:12
faTe"configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" <---what means this, what am i needing21:12
mark_kk21:13
smerilwhat is the install comand for lynx?21:13
SatManUKi installed the card, installed ndiswrapper, imported the win xp drivers, modprobed ndiswrapper but still it isn't detecting any wireless hardware21:13
geniipirko: Firstly:          sudo ln -s /var/lib/tftpboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/linux /var/lib/tftpboot/linux; sudo ln -s /var/lib/tftpboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz /var/lib/tftpboot/initrd.gz; sudo mv /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default.bak21:13
tuxismeril apt-get install lynx O_o21:13
krauthi21:14
faTehey guys, i wanted to "compile" (or sth. like this), but the console printed this line: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"21:14
krautcould anybody give me please a hint, why my keyboard works in kdm, but not in kde?21:15
krautsomething crashed before and i don't know what's broken now21:15
SatManUKim reading something about it on linuxquestions.org21:15
pirkogenii: done21:15
faTecan somebody say me what it means or what i need?!?!21:15
smerilthanks21:15
Vermux_when logging out the screen is transfered to terminal 8. and tty7 has a blinking dash21:15
Vermux_can somebody help me?21:15
geniipirko: Then: sudo nano /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default                                       this will be an empty file now. Copy and paste from here into it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53079/21:15
faTehey guys, i wanted to "compile" (or sth. like this), but the console printed this line: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"21:16
faTecan somebody say me what it means or what i need?!?!21:16
Vermux_the only way to start the gui again is to type in a terminal sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart21:17
faTe::::::/21:17
Vermux_need help21:17
faTehey guys, i wanted to "compile" (or sth. like this), but the console printed this line: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"21:17
faTecan somebody say me what it means or what i need?!?!21:17
pirkogenii: done21:17
Vermux_forget it, Im formatting and that's it21:18
pirkogenii: can i try the boot again?21:18
faTei wanted to "compile" (or sth. like this), but the console printed this line: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"21:18
Vargothok, back21:18
Vargoththe compiz is now loaded at startup, must i start this at every boot?21:19
mark_unless u start kwin first21:19
anton_Someone as can post a aMule server as I can download froom?21:19
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smerilwhen i try to install lynx it says that i am not root open 13 etc what does that means21:20
smerilmean21:20
pirkogenii: again the timeout :-(21:20
Vargothwhat is kwin?21:21
mark_kbuntu without compiz21:21
Vargothi opened with the command : compiz --replace , but it still doesn't detect any drivers21:21
mark_hmm, im at a loss then21:22
cvasmeril: sudo aptitude install lynx21:22
kimHey guys I have a question21:22
faTewhy is nobody answering MY question21:23
* faTe begins to emo around21:23
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kimI wanna know how to install divx web player for Kubuntu21:23
kimCan anybody help me out21:23
_Angelus_faTe:  what distribution are you using?21:23
VermuxWhile booting with the dvd in order to install Kubuntu gusty I got the following error: The Process for the media protocol died unexpectedly21:24
faTe_Angelus_:  kubuntu 7.1021:24
Vermuxit happaned after the gui was up21:24
_Angelus_faTe:  "sudo apt-get install build-essential"21:24
_Angelus_:)21:24
Vermuxanybody has idea?21:24
faTeoh21:24
faTeoke :/21:24
_Angelus_without the quotes of course21:24
_Angelus_ah , and in a commond prompt, not on a paper with a pencil21:24
faTethanks _Angelus_ :* :) yeah thank you21:24
_Angelus_fo' nothin'21:25
Vargothmark_ , do I maybe need to install this: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl ?21:25
faTetz!21:25
faTei even not can thank you21:25
mark_possibly21:26
wilsonif its an nividia card it won't21:26
mark_im sot sure hot to trouble shoot driver issues21:26
Vargoththe effects works, but only the window title is missing ^^21:27
wilsonoh21:27
wilsonyou needa  window decorator21:27
wilsonbest thing to do is install emerald21:28
Vargothok, it doesn't detect my graphic card, but it seems to work now21:28
_Angelus_faTe:  depends if your a woman , bad luck for me cause i have a girlfriend, but if your a man, i would apreciate some good potent weed21:29
Vargothwhen I started compiz before I installed the ATI drivers, it has big white border around kde taskbar21:29
_Angelus_haha21:29
faTe_Angelus_: i also have a girlfriend :/21:30
faTe:P21:30
VargothChecking for Xgl: not present.21:30
VargothStarting emerald21:30
Vargoth/usr/bin/compiz.real (cube) - Warn: Failed to load slide: freedesktop21:30
Vargothbut compiz run without problem21:31
Vargothbut doesn't detect the driver21:31
joe_nter shows up in the window "Configure - KDE Control Module" and when I try to print a document, it shows up. Also there is a little printer up near my clock and it shows the status fo print jobs. BUT nothing prints even though the status windwo says its complete. what could be causing this?21:32
joe_my printer**21:33
sub[t]rnlVargoth➜ you don't need Xgl, as long as  glxinfo |grep rendering  shows yes, then your in good shape21:33
Vargoththe system said no21:34
faTe_Angelus_ my friend:21:35
faTe"checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths"21:35
pirkogenii: hey good news i replaced inetutils with openbsd version and got a step further21:35
faTewhat means this?21:35
faTesudo apt-get install x-libraries ?!21:35
_Angelus_hmm21:35
_Angelus_if im not mistakin21:35
_Angelus_sudo apt-get install xorg-dev21:35
Vargothand in the restricted driver list is emtpy, but when I follow the tutorials on the ubuntu FAQ's, I should see them21:36
faTeok i'll try21:36
geniipirko: Sorry again for lag, it is my work here needing me. Here now until they call me again21:37
geniipirko: Have you gotten tftpd-hpa to run on the server?21:37
VargothI can't unterstand, why my restricted driver list is empty21:37
pirkogenii: I found http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=404760 a and then replace netutils with openbsd21:37
geniipirko: Ah, good. My netboot install setup is very old, with Dapper21:38
Vargoththe ATI catalyst control panel doen'st work either21:38
pirkogenii: uisng your configuration I got some error (don't remember) now trying the original one21:39
pirkogenii: and it seems good!21:39
geniipirko: So the client is now booting into the setup, yes?21:39
pirkogenii: yes starting an installation, I am very happy, thank you very very much for support21:40
VermuxI got the message on kdedesktop when booting from the dvd: "the process for the media protocol died unexcpectedly"21:41
Vermuxdoes it imply on hardware problem21:41
Vermux??21:41
faTeaahhh!!!21:41
geniipirko: Glad to help, even if it did occupy much time due to my work here21:41
faTe"checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!" <--- _Angelus_?!?! :)21:41
pirkogenii: sorry for disturbing your work21:42
pirkogenii: btw: what's a clock by you?21:42
pirkogenii: here is 22:43 :-)21:43
smeriltja neb21:43
ubuntutja21:43
ubuntuVAD H'NDER21:43
geniipirko: here 16:43 so almost 5pm which is my work is done time :)21:43
smerilwhats the command for install firefox21:43
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smitja21:44
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faTehelp please: "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"21:44
pirkogenii: ok so thanks again to spent your work with me :-)21:44
VargothI think, that I installed a false driver?21:44
geniipirko: Enjoy kubuntu21:45
pirkogenii: is there some way how can i pay the score to you?21:45
Vermuxhow do I format the partition?21:45
VargothI redownloaded the driver again, but when i execute the ".run" file, it tells me an error: ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution21:45
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smikubuntu-se21:46
smi#kubuntu-se21:47
faTehelp please: "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"21:47
pirkogenii: just let me now on my skype: pirkojm or ICQ: 33071861621:47
LjLsmi: /join #kubuntu-se21:47
LjL!repeat | faTe21:47
ubotufaTe: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience21:47
LjLfaTe: try « sudo apt-get install libqt3-dev »21:48
gurtubaycual es el link de IRC en español de kubuntu?21:48
Taggnostrhello21:49
LjL!es | gurtubay21:49
ubotugurtubay: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.21:49
gurtubaygracias21:49
Vargothhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305419 <- someone got a solution, but is it really neccessry to install ubuntu again?21:49
faTethanks LjL21:49
faTe"E: Paket libqt3-dev hat keinen Installationskandidaten", in english like: pacet libqt3-dev has no installationcandidates21:50
Taggnostrhow much space kubuntu needs? I'm going to install it on virtual machine just for use some programs, and I don't need to save any data, do you think that 5GB are enough?21:50
faTewhat should i do now?21:50
faTeTaggnostr: i9t could get "tight", but try it :P21:51
Taggnostractually I've ubuntu 6.06 and I only use 3.5GB, the dvd of kubuntu is 4.5GB, but I don't know if all the data will be copied on the disk21:52
Taggnostr4.3GB*21:53
stdinfaTe: try "libqt3-mt-dev"21:53
faTethanks stdin21:55
BluesKajTaggnostr, 6G should be safer21:56
Taggnostrok21:56
TaggnostrI still have 12GB free :P21:56
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Vargothcya21:58
thomas_newbie__For my phpBB2 Server do I want to link /var/www/phpb to /usr/share/phpbb2/site ??21:58
intelikeyok now i am working on configuring a lan in which the default gateway could be any of several boxes,  any thoughts on simplifying that ?22:00
intelikeyif Jucato was around i'd ask him...  :)22:01
faTei go to sleep22:01
faTegod night u all22:01
intelikeysleep well22:01
^TheCronoso 7gb kubuntu partition and 2gb swap?22:03
fdovingintelikey: so do you want the load to be distributed randomly among the alternatives or what's the plan?22:04
intelikey^TheCrono 7g sounds excessive unless your home is on it too  then sounds maybe small.22:05
^TheCronoive been getting diffrent reports on this lol, so hwos 5gb kubuntu and 2gb swap?22:05
intelikeyfdoving no. the gateway can be any of   but not multiples   i.e. only one box will be gateway at any given time22:05
fdovingintelikey: how do you know which ?22:06
intelikey^TheCrono will your home be seperate ?22:06
intelikeyfdoving exactly.   that's where my snag is.22:06
^TheCronomy home will be on a 70gb partition, it will have windows on it aswell22:06
intelikey^TheCrono then yes 5g should be enough for the install.   you might want to go ahead and make it 7g   seeing that you have plenty of room to play with.22:07
^TheCronowell, i wouldn't say pelnty, that 70GB is full upto 60gb22:08
^TheCronolol22:08
^TheCronowith no major games installed22:08
^TheCronowell, no, i do got a few games, nvm22:08
^TheCronobut i tend to fill up very fast22:08
intelikey^TheCrono the install will take about 3g roughly.  but you will need some slack on there for /tmp and package cache22:08
^TheCronohows 6gb?22:09
^TheCronoi'm mostly doing games and music22:09
^TheCronothat shouldn't take much more stuff22:09
^TheCronospace*22:09
SatManUKi am setting up a belkin 7000f network card, with a Realtek RTL8185L chipset22:09
SatManUKI have downloaded the linux drivers from Realtek Website22:09
SatManUKremoved NDISWRAPPEr22:09
SatManUKbut im getting an error - no such device22:10
intelikey^TheCrono ummmm remember that /tmp may be used in editing movies so you need enough free space to do that.22:10
pirkohey does anyone know which driver pass to the hts541612j9sa00 disk. it is not recognized durign installation22:10
SatManUKwlan0 - no such device22:10
^TheCronoi don't do movies [why does everyone think i will edit movies?]22:10
intelikey^TheCrono i'd say 6g   after hearing what you plan on doing.22:10
intelikeysorry musig  not movies   that was a brain hicup22:11
Vargothdoes someone knows, why I can't see any drivers in the driver restriction utility?22:11
intelikeymusic   i still can't say it.22:11
fdovingintelikey: then fetch a routing daemon and configure it to figure it out for you :)22:11
^TheCronowell, my entier music setup right now takes around 3 gigs22:11
^TheCronothat will be on /home anyways22:11
^TheCronoi guess22:11
^TheCronoon the 70gb partition22:11
intelikey^TheCrono you don't do any editing of the music files?22:12
^TheCronoi make them in a DAW, and save them, usualy as mp3, not wav22:12
^TheCronoand i ahve about 1.5gb sample cd i use22:13
^TheCronoand the rest is jsut the music apps and system22:13
VargothI think, that I should install kubuntu again -.-22:13
intelikey^TheCrono ok  about 5 or 6g   you'll be fine.22:13
^TheCronoswap file...2gb is fine?22:13
^TheCronowhat is swap partition for anyways?22:13
rysiek|plhi all22:14
justin_is there a irc program that runs in an x window22:14
intelikey^TheCrono swap needs to be large enough to write all of the ram to it,   if and only if you plan on using hybernate22:14
jussi01!swap | ^TheCrono22:14
ubotu^TheCrono: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info22:14
justin_not a gui program22:14
intelikey^TheCrono i don't hybernate and i don't use swap.22:14
justin_i mean a terminal window22:14
jussi01justin_: you can run irssi in konsole22:14
^TheCronoi ahve 1.5gb of memory22:15
justin_just type irssi??22:15
jussi01!info irssi22:15
^TheCronosomaby 1gb swap would be fine22:15
intelikeythen 2g swap would allow hybernate   yes.22:15
Vargothtired with installing the ATI driver :)22:15
jussi01justin_: you need to install it first: sudo apt-get install irssi22:15
fedor__^TheCrono leave it at 2GB22:15
^TheCronok22:15
ubotuirssi (source: irssi): terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1027 kB, installed size 2796 kB22:15
rysiek|plguys, I am having a strange issue on my laptop - it has a 1280x800 screen, X server uses the full res (wallpaper is on the whole screen), but the DE (KDE, to be precise) seems to be aware of only 1024x768 (apps maximize only to this size, althogh Kicker seems to work OK)22:16
^TheCronoand kubuntu can look at my parition with data and doze on it and find its way around?...i can keep ti on ntfs right?22:16
rysiek|plsearching google gives me a whole lotta results... about twin view, etc. ;)22:16
intelikeyi have 512m ram and stopped using swap three years ago.  while i only had 128m.22:16
intelikey^TheCrono /home doesn't need to be ntfs no.22:17
^TheCronocan it be though?22:17
^TheCronoi am keeping my windows install for now22:17
intelikey^TheCrono not without lots of tweeking.22:17
^TheCronowteeking?22:18
^TheCronowhat do i need to do?22:18
intelikeylinux doesn't live in ntfs space without scba gear22:18
^TheCronoi rememebr it worked fine last time..and that was 5.1022:18
holahow i can enable ssh cominication between tw pc? . I dont know how to enalge port 2222:18
^TheCronoi had 3 paritions22:18
burneris there a way to set a default search provider in konqueror so that if I just start typing and type "planet kde" for example, it will just search google?22:18
intelikey^TheCrono i didn't say that linux couldn't access the fs, i said that it doesn't work for system files.    and you need the permissions bits on several files in your home dir.    ntfs has no permissions bit22:19
^TheCronowhat exactly does that mean? heh22:20
intelikeymeans that if you make your home dir ntfs then several apps will break.22:20
^TheCronowell, what do i need to do to keep ti set up so that i can switch to windows if i need to?22:21
intelikeyunless you set the psyudo permission correctly then only a few will.22:21
Vargothdoes someone know, what this means:22:21
Vargoth./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution22:21
intelikey^TheCrono you need to move home back to the main partition and mount the swap partition some place like /mnt/    and enlarge the / root partition as much as possable.22:22
holahow i can enable ssh cominication between tw pc? . I dont know how to enalge port 2222:22
jussi01!ssh22:22
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/22:22
rysiek|plguys, so anyone with the sub-resolution in kde?22:22
intelikeyby swap   i mean. the partition with the data   not the actual swap partition    sorry.22:22
^TheCronothe main partition is the one with windows on it right? [the 70gb one]22:22
intelikeyno  /22:23
intelikeymain linux  partition.22:23
intelikeylet me rewrite all that.22:23
^TheCronobut,if i put all the data on there, then won't windows be unable to read any of it, if i need to use it?22:23
fedor__^TheCrono: better make sure you have that windwows data backed up, I have a bad feeling about this install :)22:23
^TheCronoi can alwasy reinstall window22:23
^TheCronoand i'm abcking up music/image and a few other tuings i need anyways22:24
fedor__^TheCrono: thats why I said data not OS22:24
^TheCronothings*22:24
^TheCronoi jsut need it so that i can switch between linux and windows, and still use the same data for each, heh22:24
intelikey^TheCrono you need to move the data-swap partition (70g) to some place like /mnt   and make / about 12g    that way you can access the data from either windows or linux and have home on ext# fs so you don't have permission related app trouble all the time22:25
^TheCronoor do i need to drop one or the other22:25
^TheCronowhen i get ready to install it,i'll consult you again, because i kinda don't really know what you jsut said heh22:25
^TheCronoi may jsut reformat the entier thing and start from scratch22:26
matt____i would like to discover how to automatically run programs/bash scripts at certain times of day. i believe there is something like that around here somewhere, i just can't find it, someone point me to it?22:26
Allooshhi, how do I connect a computer to the local network?22:26
^TheCrono75% complete :/22:27
intelikeywhat i said was set it up something like    hda1(windows)    hda5(linux 12g mount on / )    hda6(data ntfs mount on /mnt)22:27
intelikeyoh and   hda7(swap 2g)22:28
intelikeyor how ever you number yours.22:28
^TheCrono4 partitions, one for windows, one for linux, one for swap, one for data?22:28
^TheCronocorrect?22:28
intelikeythat's it.22:28
^TheCronothe data partition will be..ntfs?22:28
intelikeyyep22:28
firedoghi22:29
^TheCronook22:29
^TheCronoi understand now..why 12gb for linux though?22:29
firedoghi22:29
jussi01!hi | firedog22:30
ubotufiredog: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!22:30
intelikey^TheCrono cause your home dir is on it22:30
firedogguys this is totally new to me22:30
^TheCronowhat goes into home?..heh22:30
firedogiam having problems here22:30
^TheCronowhen i install a program,say fire fox..it goes onto home?22:30
jussi01!ask | firedog22:30
ubotufiredog: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)22:30
firedogcan any one help me with this22:30
jussi01firedog: whats going on?22:31
intelikey^TheCrono it will make files in your home yes.  but the home and the system will be sharing the same space  so you don't want to over croud either22:31
firedogiam not able to go online with the konqueror22:31
firedogwat do i have to do22:31
^TheCronobut i can also install firefox on say..the data drive, and linux can use it from there aswell?22:31
jussi01firedog: are yu connected to the net?22:31
intelikey^TheCrono no.22:31
^TheCronoOh?22:32
firedogiam chatting with u people right .. i must b online22:32
intelikeynot unless you are talking about using a windows version and wine22:32
jussi01firedog: I didnt know if you were on that pc or not.22:32
intelikeyis firedog on line ?22:32
firedogyes22:32
^TheCronoSo all programs/applications for linux, must be ion the same drive linux is on, and not an ntfs drive22:32
^TheCronoin that case, i could make the limnux drive..say, 60gb, and the windows drive smaller..as i will use linux more?22:33
^TheCronomaby 50/20, respectively22:33
^TheCronoi need a bigger HD22:33
Vargothis it not possible to install ati driver into kubuntu?22:33
^TheCrono!ati22:34
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto22:34
Vargothit says, that my operating system is not supported22:34
jussi01!ati > Vargoth22:34
jussi01Vargoth: follow thos instructions :D22:34
intelikey^TheCrono linux installs applications/packages differently than windows.22:34
^TheCronoexectuables cannot be on ntfs, but an image on ntfs can be viewed by linux jsut fine...right?22:34
^TheCronoor a music file22:34
^TheCronoetc22:34
^TheCronoor wine22:34
intelikeycorrect22:34
Vargothyes I did, but the problem is, it doesn't work like the tutorial22:34
^TheCronowine can run programs off ntfs?22:34
Taggnostris there some tutorial for installing kubuntu?22:35
LogicalDashIs there a folder where the desktop config files in my K menu are kept?22:35
Vargothmy restrited drivers are empty22:35
Vargothdon't not why22:35
intelikeywine is a windows application layer for linux22:35
jussi01Vargoth: which card?22:35
intelikey!wine22:35
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.22:35
VargothRadeon 9000 Pro22:35
jussi01Vargoth: thats because that card is supported by the opens source radeon driver22:35
holajussi01: tnks22:35
^TheCronohrm, so i must decide my partition sizes, as you cannot simply change them, heh22:36
jussi01Vargoth: you dont need to install drivers for it22:36
Vargothso when i install kubuntu, I doesn't have to do anything?22:36
jussi01Vargoth: correct22:36
Vargothok, and compiz and so one works correctly?22:36
Vargothwith 3D accelerator?22:36
jussi01!compiz22:36
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion22:36
jussi01yes22:36
intelikey^TheCrono that's about the size of it.    mind the pun.22:36
jussi01after that^22:36
jussi01I got to run22:36
^TheCronoi'll give windows 20GB22:36
^TheCrono2Gb swap22:36
^TheCronoand the rest into linux22:37
intelikeythat leaves how much ?22:37
^TheCronois there a reason to seperate windows from the windows ntfs partition?]\22:37
Vargothbut why tells glxinfo | grep render22:37
VargothNo?22:37
elviroloations --> terminal22:37
elvirolo[23:33] <alexbOrsova> desertc: I've been googling for an hour and none of the proposed methods have worked so far22:37
elvirolo[23:33] <elvirolo> i'm having a network problem : i have two laptops here ; on the first one, whenever i connect it via ethernet to my modem, the internet connection works fine (using dhcp). on the second one though (also running gutsy), i get the following message "No working leases in persistent database"... both /etc/ntwork/interfaces are exactly the same... why is that ?22:37
mrdigitalanyone know why no sound on my tv tuner?22:37
intelikey^TheCrono no.  windows will cry if you don't give it the first primary22:38
^TheCronoso 3 partitions is ok22:38
Vargoththe only thing, what i don't unterstand is, why glxinfo | grep render gives the echo No?22:38
intelikey^TheCrono what is that 80g disk ?22:38
Lynoureelvirolo: check the logs on the dhcp server, if you have access to it. Sounds like it is out of IPs22:38
^TheCronoyes, 80gb22:38
Vargothwhen 3d accelerator is successfully activated at installation of kubuntu?22:38
elviroloLynoure: well... i tried connecting the second laptop while the first one was not connected and it still doesn't work22:39
Lynoureelvirolo: leases can span over reboots22:39
elviroloLynoure: ok22:40
^TheCronook, so eyah wine installs to linux /home...that way on the occasion wine doesn't run something i got 18GB free on windows partition to run it22:40
^TheCronoi got another 8gb hard drive, iw ish it worked22:40
^TheCronoit probably does i am jsut doing something wrong22:40
intelikey^TheCrono yes three is ok.  but i'd make four like this.    20g(windows) [extended 6g(linux / system-root) 2g(swap)  52g(linux /home)]    reason for the seperate home partition is if you have to or want to reinstall linux you don't have any trouble with saving data  it's all in your home and you just don't reformat it.22:42
^TheCronothat sounds good22:42
^TheCronoi need need to elarn to delete shit lol22:42
Vargothok, i'm going to reinstall my kubuntu22:42
^TheCronoi ahve so much unused crap on my HD22:42
elviroloLynoure: i'm so stupid i can't remember what the ip of the modem is22:43
Vargothmaybe that could help my graphic problems22:43
Vargothgood night22:43
thomas_newbie__how do I restrict www.mydomain.com/phpbb directory from being accessed by people? I don't want that to be accessible right?22:44
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intelikeythomas_newbie__ ummm change the permission on it ?    just a guess, i'm not a web devel22:46
Allooshhow come there is no answer? question again, I have home network, how do I connect ubuntu machine to the network so I would reach the internet?22:46
Taggnostrwhile installing should I set the swap as primary or logical partition?22:46
intelikeyAlloosh you setup ipforwarding on the gateway and add the route to the linux box     route add default gw <ip.the.gateway.boxen>22:47
intelikeyTaggnostr linux cares not.  so suit your self.22:47
intelikeyTaggnostr the only restriction i can think of is the four primary limit22:48
Allooshintelikey: I have ubuntu desktop connected to the internet, using a desl modem/router, and when I plug the other windows machines to the router they connect to internet, I got another ubuntu laptop here, and I plugged it and its not connecting, whats missing?22:49
Taggnostrok, I only have root and swap22:49
intelikeyAlloosh i know not.22:49
intelikeyAlloosh you need networking help and that's my weak suit.22:50
Allooshintelikey: thanks for the good well:)22:50
* intelikey only wishes he had a dsl modem to play with.22:50
ubuntuhola22:50
ubuntuups22:50
killown|awayhow do I to disable kde4 composite effects?22:50
corinthKDE4 settings > Desktop > untick desktop effects, killown|away22:51
intelikeyAlloosh you might run kdenetworking on the lappy and see if it helps22:51
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intelikeyerrr knetworking22:51
killown|awaycorinth ty22:51
corinthkillown|away: Np.22:52
intelikeyTaggnostr not of any import. but just a passing thought.  my hd doesn't even have a partition on it.22:53
intelikeyso linux is very flexable22:53
root__hello there! is ther an easy way to reinstall kde? i managed to screw up in some way (am currently logged in to fluxbox via a startup script) because i could'nt log in with kdm... :S22:53
intelikey!puregnome22:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about puregnome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:53
intelikeyhmmm ooops.22:54
intelikey!removekde22:55
ubotuWant to remove gnome/kde/xfce completely? Look at debfoster, it's a great help22:55
intelikeybut that wasn't what i was looking for either.22:55
TaggnostrI'm installing it on virtual machine and last time I tried I had problems22:55
intelikeyroot__ there is a way to remove all of kde,   you could then install kubuntu-desktop and violoa22:56
intelikeyroot__ i can't find the howto right now.   maybe you could look for   remove kde   on google22:56
root__hmm.. :/ i can't login to kde... it screwed up after my last update, don't know what to do, so I in my desperation tried to install everythiong i could, and removed my .kde folder... :S22:57
root__intelikey ok...22:57
intelikeyroot__ alternatively   you can reinstall any given package with    apt-get install --reinstall package_name   but that would require something like   dpkg -l | grep kde     to get a list22:58
root__i just started this fluxbox and ran kicker22:58
root__ok22:58
intelikeyroot__ now.  your issue may not be what you think tho.   do you have any free hd space on our home dir ?22:59
intelikeyfor want of free space kde will fail to start.23:00
root__yes, I do like 20 gig23:00
root__oh.-23:00
root__that's not it. :(23:00
intelikeyand if you have root owned file in your home you can have that problem.23:00
intelikeyown your home23:00
root__i think i've like tries to install KDE4 on top of my original kde... :S23:01
root__tried*23:01
root__i wrote dpkg -l | grep kde23:01
root__and it says a lot of kde 4 stuff..23:01
Taggnostrwhat is the kde version with the latest version of kubuntu ?23:01
root__-_-23:01
intelikeyhowto own your home#   sudo chown <username_here> -R <home_dir_here>23:02
intelikeyTaggnostr 3.5something  but 4 is avalable23:02
Taggnostrok23:02
intelikey!kde423:03
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde423:03
intelikeyback in a few.23:03
victor__hola a todos23:09
victor__alguien habla español aquí?23:09
Dragnslcr!es23:10
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.23:10
victor__lista de canales?23:10
Dr_willis!medibuntu23:11
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org23:11
corinthAnyone have the Kopete problem where receiving / sending webcam crashes it?23:23
* corinth hears crickets chirping.23:26
pierrethhello, my apache does not work with my .php files23:26
pierrethcan someone help with the configuration?23:27
blizzzekbye23:28
NickPrestapierreth, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP. Specifically, check out the Troubleshooting section on PHP523:28
pierrethNickPresta: thank you23:28
geniipierreth: Also you may find some assistance on these subjects of apache and web server things in the channel #ubuntu-server23:29
pierrethgenii: OK23:30
^TheCronodoes kubuntu use less resources than windows xp?23:31
biovore^TheCrono: depends..23:32
nevilleTheCrono In my personal experience, they've been about the same, if not Kubuntu uses slightly less23:32
nevilleIt just depends on what you do23:32
biovoreyeah.. the advantage comes when you running multipule copies of things..  5 firefox's on windows = 5 * that of linux..23:33
biovorebecause of shared memory..23:33
hydrogen1 copy of ff on linux 5*copies of opera on linux23:34
hydrogen= in there somewhere23:34
snikkeri've got this error when i run vmware: "libpng12.so.0: no version information available" can you help me?23:34
biovoresnikker: I don't think thats a problem.. should still run just fine..23:37
^TheCronook, kubuntu is done downloading :D23:38
^TheCronotime to backup stuff for a few hours23:38
wimpiesHi all, on my guts my firefox claims it cannot produce flash content.  flashplugin-nonfree is installed.  What could be wrong ?23:39
chuck_!help23:40
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots23:40
stdinwimpies: have you seen the topic?23:40
chuck_#help23:40
chuck_!help gamepad23:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about help gamepad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:40
^TheCrono!help joystick23:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about help joystick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:41
^TheCronoor amby...23:41
^TheCrono!help controller23:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about help controller - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:41
^TheCronooh well23:41
stdin!msgthebot23:41
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.23:41
snikkerbiovore: it don't run... :(23:42
chuck_Anyone know much about getting usb gamepads to work in edgy eft?23:42
^TheCronoedgy eft?23:42
chuck_just an older release of ubuntu23:43
chuck_6.1023:43
stdinI'd guess you configure it in system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> joystick23:43
wimpiesstdin : is firefox not a part of kubuntu ?23:44
stdinwimpies: it's not installed by default23:44
stdinkonqueror is the default web browser23:44
wimpiesstdin : yes I know but too many websites cause failures.23:44
wimpiesStdin : is the plugin still not fixed ?23:45
stdinubotu: tell wimpies about fash   |  wimpies, see the private message from ubotu23:45
^TheCronoi currentlyhave 1 partition with windows on it, i want to keep windows..if i were to empty everythign else exept for windows, and broke my HD into 4 partitions, the aprtition that has windows installed..will it be damaged?..or do i *have* to reinstall windows23:46
* genii hesitates to point out typos to stdin23:46
wimpiesubotu: tell wimpies about flash23:46
stdinyes, I'm on too many channels :p23:46
stdin!flash23:46
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash23:46
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.23:46
stdin^TheCrono: should be ok, the installer can even do that for you23:47
^TheCronocan the intsall transfer files from one partition to another, so i won't have to save them to cd, then reload them onto HD?23:48
stdin^TheCrono: you can do that manually, it won't touch your files23:49
^TheCronoi'm turning a 80gb windows ntfs system into 4 partitons, 20gb for windows, 6g extended for system/linux, 2gb swap, and rest as /home23:49
^TheCronoCAn it though?..i don't want to do that if i don't have to :D23:49
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genii^TheCrono: Since you have access to Konsole before/during/after install, you can manually mount a partition and copy stuff over23:49
geniiAAAAAAA ADBOT23:50
^TheCronowell, never mind actually, because i am reformatting23:50
^TheCronoso one way or another everything weill be deleted23:50
^TheCronocan i make my /home partition with kubuntu, format it, get it read, then transfer my files [not even 2gb worth] over to it, then partition and format the rest into the other 3 partitioons?23:51
^TheCronolike, get half of the HD ready, transfer the files i need, then do the other half23:51
^TheCronoor do i need to simply wipe the whole thing and start from scratch23:52
^TheCronoand one mroe thing, i got the cd, i don't think its live cd, so can i do all this from windows?23:52
naliothhi stdin23:52
mrdigitalbmk789: ?23:53
stdin^TheCrono: you don't need to remove everything to resize it, just make sure you have enough free space available23:54
^TheCronoi'm delete everythign exept the stuff i want to transfer, and window23:54
^TheCronoi might even put all the stuff i am keeping into a .rar23:55
^TheCronoit jsut depends if i want to be doing computer stuff all night lol23:55
^TheCronostarted at 1PM, its now 6PM and i have barely got kubuntu burned yet23:55
billydI just discovered 12 bad files on the ISO that took 30 minutes to download.  Gonna buy a DVD23:56
^TheCronoi think i will need help thouhg, like, how to i make my windows partition my 'main' one..not for me, but windows hates not being main23:56
^TheCronoor teh first to boot one or how ever that works23:57
^TheCronoi want to boot to linux, but i want to be able to use windows jsut in case23:57
^TheCronoand can i make kubuntu require a password before it loads anything?23:57
stdin^TheCrono: the installer will take care of most of that for you (settings windows up to be the 1st partition and allowing you yo boot it). and you'll have to supply a username and password to login to kubuntu anyway23:59
TaggnostrI installed kubuntu \o/23:59

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