[00:00] <jared> [10:10] <tinin> jared you could install them with this comand sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre
[00:00] <jared> I did that
[00:00] <jared> and it said it worked
[00:00] <Jucato> if you did that, then it should be installed.
[00:00] <jared> but it isn't...
[00:01] <Jucato> did you get to the part that you need to accept some license?
[00:01] <jared> no
[00:01] <ardchoille> Jucato: Would apt-cache policy have diff output than dpkg -l?
[00:01] <jared> I just did it again, and it said the following packages have been kept back:
[00:01] <jared> then had a whole list of packages
[00:02] <jared> then it had:
[00:02] <jared> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 46 not upgraded
[00:02] <Jucato> if you didn't reach the license agreement, then it wasn't installed properly
[00:02] <jared> I kno
[00:02] <jared> I just saw it said it didnt install
[00:03] <Jucato> ardchoille: dpkg -l lists all installed packages. apt-cache policy is for a different purpose, like to see which versions are available and from which repos
[00:03] <ardchoille> Jucato: Ah, ok
[00:03] <tinin> jared you should read how to install apps, search for those packages in synaptic or adept and reinstall them
[00:03] <Jucato> anyway, I'm gone too... try to install java and then it should work
[00:04] <jared> how do I install?
[00:04] <tinin> jared read that in the guide
[00:04] <tinin> don't make people type everything, there are lots of documentation out there ;P
[00:05] <tinin> jared http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Updates_and_Upgrades_and_Installing_Software
[00:05] <jared> ergh, this is waaay to much work and I don't know what any of it means in the guides
[00:05] <yasahiro> i still have no idea how to get the background back where its supposed to be...
 just use adept or synaptic to install the apps you want
[00:07] <jared> i tried synaptic, didnt do anything
[00:07] <tinin> thy are two easy programs, maybe adept is easier
[00:07] <yasahiro> i believe adept is easier..
[00:07] <jared> I read in a guide to do this System-->Administration-->Software Sources-->Third-party software-->Add
[00:07] <jared> how do I do that in kubuntu?
[00:07] <Dr_willis_> I find synaptic works better for me then adept
[00:08] <Dr_willis_> Thats adding the 3rd party repositories. I normally just edit the  /etc/apt/sources.list file manually
[00:08] <matt_____> ScorpKing: super long story..but can i totally disable internet (not networking) on this box?
[00:08] <matt_____> or disable dhcp or soemthign on this thing?
[00:09] <matt_____> but still use networking and the whole server thing?
[00:09] <ScorpKing> matt____: yes. remember dns... and gateway... you've added? put # in front of them
[00:09] <tinin> Dr_willis_  is right
[00:09] <Dr_willis_> jared,  many of the docs out are very ubuntu specific.   Try the add/remove programs icon in the menus. it used to have a check box to enable the other repos.
[00:09] <matt_____> ScorpKing: ok, then restart the network?
[00:09] <matt_____> /etc/init.d?
[00:09] <jared> k
[00:09] <ScorpKing> matt____: yes. /etc/init.d/networking restart
[00:10] <matt_____> i didn't add a dns ScorpKing
[00:10] <jared> I might just install windows, Java works easily on that
[00:10] <NickPresta> jared, if you so wish.
[00:10] <jared> it works easily on Ubuntu too, but that is way to slow on this computer
[00:10] <jared> thats y i wanted kubuntu
[00:10] <tinin> jared don't be afraid to do this manually, it is just a text file, it is the only thig "complicated" I ever learnt about linux
[00:10] <yasahiro> java worked uber easy on my install of kubuntu...
[00:10] <ScorpKing> matt____: ok then. just comment gateway out
[00:10] <matt_____> laters
[00:11] <jared> yasahiro, how did u do it?
[00:11] <jared> I found that with Ubuntu, it didnt work but then I reinstalled and it did
[00:12] <yasahiro> i guess it just kinda... came with mine... i never installed it actually
[00:12] <jared> hmm
[00:13] <bahman> Hi everybody
[00:13] <jared> hi
[00:13] <bahman> How could I speedup my kubuntu booting?! And also do I need a difagrimenting program?!
[00:13] <tinin> It just works, maybe installing it frop a graphical package installer like adept or synaptic lets you accept the  license and then it will work jared
[00:13] <jared> omg, found it
[00:13] <bahman> jared hi
[00:13] <Dr_willis_> You dont defrag linux filesystems normally.
[00:14] <jared> there were these things I had to tick in ubuntu
[00:14] <jared> and I just found them =d
[00:14] <jared> *=D
[00:14] <Dr_willis_> as for speedup. you could disable unneeded services.. but i doubt if you will gain much speed
[00:14] <yasahiro> i wanna disable kwebdesktop..
[00:14] <tinin> :( next time RTFM first jared
[00:14] <yasahiro> its seriously annoying me :(
[00:14] <jared> RTFM?
[00:14] <tinin> seek that on google
[00:15] <NickPresta> jared, it means to read the manual.
[00:15] <Dr_willis_> I belive the check box for kwebdesktop was on  under the wallpaper settings on kde?  Not in kde at the moment..
[00:15] <yasahiro> it is
[00:15] <yasahiro> however
[00:15] <Dr_willis_> theres a area/settings to enable programs on the desktop. :) i used to use xearth all the time
[00:15] <yasahiro> i disabled it... but its still making the wallpaper... i cant get my anime images as wallpapers again :(
[00:15] <tinin> jared we try to be kind anyway ;)
[00:16] <jared> ergh, still not working
[00:16] <Dr_willis_> yasahiro,  you try logging out/backin after disabling it? Ive not toyed with it in ages.
[00:16] <yasahiro> yeah... i did try logging out and back in...
[00:16] <jared> :'(
[00:16] <jared> this isnt working
[00:16] <NickPresta> !doesn't work | jared
[00:16] <ubotu> jared: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[00:17] <yasahiro> if i create multiple desktops, however, those work... but the first one keeps using kwebdesktop..
 but exactly what are you trying to load?
[00:17] <jared> a java game called runescape
[00:17] <tinin> is it winblows specific then?
[00:17] <jared> i can use it on ubuntu
[00:17] <jared> just not kubuntu
[00:18] <Dr_willis_> it shouldent matter  as to what desktop you are using.
[00:18] <tinin> if it works in *ubuntu it works in *ubuntu
 use firefox
[00:18] <Dr_willis_> give more info as to what its not doing properly perhaps.
[00:18] <tinin> or learn how to use java in linux
[00:18] <jared> i'll install firefox then
[00:18] <jared> well I worked it out in Ubuntu
[00:19] <Dr_willis_> its a game that runs in a browser? or a stand alone java program?
[00:19] <jared> but kubuntu seems so much different
[00:19] <jared> runs ina  browser
[00:19] <tinin> so much easier
[00:19] <Dr_willis_> Linux is all about layers and legos. :)
[00:19] <Dr_willis_> You proberly want to run it inside firefox then
[00:19] <jared> k, i'll install FF
 I run my java apps directly
[00:19] <Dr_willis_> I like Puzzlepirates :P
[00:19] <tinin> even you could launch them with a comand
[00:20] <jared> tinin, how?
[00:20] <tinin> well
[00:20] <tinin> I'm lazy to search
[00:20] <tinin> try with ff
[00:20] <tinin> firefox
[00:21] <jared> kk
[00:21] <jared> I used FF to get it working on ubuntu
[00:22] <yasahiro_> :(
[00:22] <CruCio> sup guys
[00:22] <CruCio> hey
[00:22] <CruCio> guys
[00:22] <CruCio> tell me about kubuntu
[00:22] <CruCio> is it an operating system ?
[00:23] <ardchoille> !kubuntu | CruCio
[00:23] <ubotu> CruCio: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[00:23] <CruCio> or its just a sofware that requires an operating syste, ?
[00:23] <CruCio> choille
[00:23] <tinin> http://www.runescape.com ? you're freak
[00:23] <CruCio> its the same as the ubuntu right ?
[00:23] <ScorpKing> nite guys
 try both
[00:24] <CruCio> am currently using ubuntu on my ps3
[00:24] <tinin> nice
[00:24] <CruCio> but am unable to install Java
[00:24] <tinin> well
[00:24] <CruCio> though its possible
[00:25] <CruCio> am going to go with the kubuntu
[00:25] <tinin> I guess it is not like an standard pc
 you won't get any difference
[00:25] <CruCio> actually
[00:25] <CruCio>  i would
[00:25] <CruCio> since
[00:26] <CruCio> when ur installing java
[00:26] <CruCio> merminal
[00:26] <CruCio> requires
[00:26] <tinin> ps3 has little ram isn't it slow to use as a pc?
[00:26] <CruCio> the cd
[00:26] <posingaspopular> !enter
[00:26] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:26] <Dr_willis_> ps3 linux - is VERY much a work in progress
[00:26] <CruCio> gutsy gibbon power+pciso
[00:26] <CruCio> to install
[00:26] <CruCio> which cannot be found any where(i checked)
[00:26] <CruCio> but for the kubunto
[00:26] <CruCio> it exists
[00:27] <CruCio> ok
[00:27] <tinin> CruCio: maybe you need java for power pc
[00:27] <Dr_willis_> CruCio,  we can read more then 4 words on a single line.. theres no need to chop it all up.
[00:27] <Dr_willis_> and I just saw a 'how to install java on the ps3 linux' howto at the psubuntu web site
[00:27] <tinin> he may be writting with the wiimote
[00:27] <Dr_willis_> tinin,  tats not a ps3 :)
[00:27] <tinin> really? XD
[00:28] <Dr_willis_> http://psubuntu.com/2007/02/13/howto-enable-java-for-firefox/
 ps3 has little ram, isn't it slow to use as a pc?
[00:28] <CruCio> no
[00:28] <CruCio> not at all
[00:28] <genii> nah
[00:28] <CruCio> its fast
[00:28] <Dr_willis_> and --> http://psubuntu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1571
[00:28] <CruCio> and easy
[00:29] <Dr_willis_> how to set up flash and java on the ps3 linux
[00:29] <yasahiro_> :( my wallpaper still isnt working..
[00:29] <xen_> Hey how do i get the ATi driver to work in Kubuntu? i enabled the restricted driver but everything is extrememly choppy/slow
[00:29] <genii> tinin: I have 7.04 Kubuntu running on a P2 with 128Mb ram and 4Gb hd
[00:29] <CruCio> thats the only problem the ps3 ubuntu has
[00:29] <xen_> i cant even use firefox/konqurer because of the choppyness
[00:29] <CruCio> installing
[00:29] <tinin> CruCio I heard the best desktop to use in ps is e17
[00:29] <CruCio> java and flash
[00:29] <tinin> check it out
[00:29] <CruCio> e17 ?
[00:29] <CruCio> what is that ?
[00:30] <tinin> just a very lighweight desktop
[00:30] <Dr_willis_> i find e17 to be a bit over hyped L:) same as its been hyped for the last 5+ years...
[00:30] <genii> nvm, ps3 <> p3    (I could use another mug of coffee apparently)
[00:30] <Dr_willis_> it used to be the 'heavyweight' desktop years ago.. now everything else has grown and its now lightweight. heh heh
[00:31] <mrdigital> anyone here like linuxmce?
[00:32] <yasahiro_> i just wanna remove kwebdesktop... or at least disable it... *sigh*
[00:32] <yasahiro_> ive tried restarting, logging out, ive tried disabling it before doing so...
[00:32] <Dr_willis_> yasahiro,  guess ya could look in the .kde direcory for the proper config files and remove them.
[00:32] <CruCio> kubuntu server is slow
[00:32] <Dr_willis_> but i got NO idea what config file it is.
[00:33] <Dr_willis_> I guess i could reboot to Kubuntu and look.. :)
[00:33] <CruCio> Willis ??
[00:33] <Dr_willis_> CruCio, ?????????????????????//
[00:33] <genii> Normally something like .kde/share/config/whaternamerc
[00:33] <CruCio> kubunto,ubuntu any diff ?
[00:33] <Dr_willis_> !kubuntuy
[00:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntuy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:33] <Dr_willis_> !kubuntu
[00:33] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[00:33] <tinin> CruCio are 3d supported in *ubuntu
[00:33] <tinin> ?
[00:33] <Dr_willis_> brb
[00:34] <CruCio> tinin ??
[00:34] <tinin> 3d
[00:34] <tinin> like 3d games or google earth?
[00:34] <CruCio> i think u should ask willis
[00:34] <CruCio> yea
[00:35] <tinin> I'm curious
[00:35] <CruCio> yes
[00:35] <Jucato> yasahiro_: in Configure Desktop, try to use "No Picture", click Apply, see if it changes to a blank color, then select Picture again
[00:35] <CruCio> ubuntu runs warcraft 3
[00:35] <tinin> CruCio the new kde4 would rock with 3d on a ps3
[00:35] <yasahiro_> no change...
[00:35] <yasahiro_> still the web page...
[00:36] <CruCio> kde4 ?
[00:36] <biovore> Isn't PS3 3d all software rendered with linux (sony locked the 3d stuff)
[00:36] <CruCio> well actually
[00:36] <Jucato> yasahiro_: weird... everything works fine here... but when you selected None, you were able to get a blank desktop?
[00:36] <CruCio> my ubuntu supports warcraft 3
[00:36] <tinin> CruCio just look at some youtube videos to see how it is
[00:37] <tinin> CruCio: also take a look at these links
[00:37] <tinin> http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=2339
[00:37] <yasahiro_> no... when i selected none, it stayed with the web page..
[00:37] <tinin> http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=2339
[00:37] <Jucato> yasahiro_: ok something terribly wrong there...
[00:38] <tinin> CruCio: its a PS3 homebrew project called MegaBox
[00:38] <CruCio> nice
[00:38] <CruCio> nice
[00:38] <illriginal> anyone know the script to combine movie clips
[00:39] <yasahiro_> im beginning to regret trying kwebdesktop...
[00:39] <CruCio> i hope we see alot of changes on ubuntu 8.04
[00:39] <yasahiro_> ive had linux since summer last year.... im not really too much of a newbie... but there are of course lots of places i still get stuck
[00:40] <Dr_willis_> yasahiro_,  lett see - i have it enavbled now...
[00:40] <Jucato> yasahiro_: ok... last try... open up ~/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc in a test editor
[00:40] <Dr_willis_> and i just uncheck the boxc and hit apply and it disables it.
[00:41] <Jucato> same here...
[00:41] <Jucato> yasahiro_: look for the part "BackgroundMode=" and see what it is set to
[00:41] <yasahiro_> well, its opened
[00:41] <Dr_willis_> yasahiro_,  you are saying that the wallpaper does not change back to a solid color?  You still see the web desktop eh?
[00:42] <yasahiro_> right..
[00:42] <Jucato> [08:42] <Jucato> yasahiro_: look for the part "BackgroundMode=" and see what it is set to
[00:42] <CruCio> Willis ?
[00:42] <yasahiro_> BackgroundMode=Program
[00:42] <CruCio> what os ur architecture ?
[00:42] <Jucato> yasahiro_: that's the problem... change "Program" to "Flat"
[00:42] <Dr_willis_> I have several machines running various 32bit linux disrtos.
[00:43] <Jucato> "that might be the problem"
[00:43] <yasahiro_> yay!
[00:43] <yasahiro_> it went to a solid colour
[00:43] <Jucato> now try to change wallpapers
[00:44] <yasahiro_> still solid colour... didnt change to the image
[00:44] <Dr_willis_> You need to check the 'use image '  i think
[00:44] <Jucato> wow, you have one funky config there :/
[00:45] <Dr_willis_> Cool.. thers a slideshow feature. :) Never seen that befor
[00:45] <Jucato> lol
[00:45] <Jucato> :)
[00:45] <Jucato> one of those desktop config stuff that GNOME doesn't have built-in
[00:45] <Jucato> (along with being able to use different wallpapers per desktop)
[00:46] <Jucato> yasahiro_: just out of curioisity, can you run this command in Konsole? ls -l ~/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc
[00:47] <yasahiro_> -rw------- 1 yasahiro yasahiro 11992 2008-01-21 17:47 /home/yasahiro/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc
[00:48] <Jucato> hm.. looks ok...
[00:48] <posingaspopular> Jucato: well in kde4 that doesn't work...
[00:48] <Jucato> posingaspopular: he's on kde3
[00:48] <Jucato> otherwise kwebdesktop wouldn't have even been a possible option
[00:48] <posingaspopular> ah i see.
[00:48] <rc-1> Hi, my printer isnt listed in the drivers for lexmerk, am i SOL?
[00:49] <yasahiro_> ...
[00:49] <yasahiro_> umm
[00:49] <yasahiro_> background colour isnt even changing..
[00:49] <barbara_> I am trying to mount a samba shared printer with a windows xp machine using net use lpt1 \\10.0.0.1\HP and it asks for a password. this is fine because I can enter my samba username and password and it connects however it doesn't work for the /persistant command to automatically mount it upon startup. can someone give me a hand?
[00:49] <yasahiro_> even when its set to no picture
[00:50] <ardchoille> rc-1: Have you seen this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[00:50] <Jucato> yasahiro_: somehow I'm having the feeling that your changes aren't getting written to the config file...
[00:50] <rc-1> no thx
[00:52] <ubuntu> sorry for not using pastebin..but on a livecd using weird stuff trying to fix my broken system. but could someone tell me if there is anything wrong/odd in my fstab.
[00:52] <ubuntu> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[00:52] <ubuntu> #
[00:52] <ubuntu> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[00:52] <ubuntu> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[00:52] <ubuntu> # /dev/sda1
[00:52] <ubuntu> UUID=9abf1fca-ddea-464b-a4cf-7b843969650a /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[00:52] <ubuntu> # /dev/sda5
[00:52] <yasahiro_> http://pastebin.com/d22d6b028
[00:52] <ubuntu> UUID=9b85f993-5be1-4a79-9e2b-c596114fedcf none            swap    sw              0       0
[00:52] <ubuntu> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0
[00:52] <ubuntu> 192.168.1.250:/home/matt/Data /media/Server/ nfs rw,hard,intr 0 0
[00:53] <Jared> back
[00:53] <Jared> im gonna try ff now
[00:53] <ubuntu> ok..pastebin...can someone tell me if there is anything wrong with my fstab?
[00:53] <ubuntu> ok..pastebin...can someone tell me if there is anything wrong with my fstab? http://pastebin.com/m5819893e
[00:54] <Dr_willis_> care to give us a CLUE as to the actual problem ubuntu ?
[00:54] <tinin> barbara_ there are lots of graphical configurators for samba, maybe that's something easier
[00:54] <Jared> ok, im still having problems with Java even with Firefox
[00:55] <Dr_willis_> ubuntu,  you having nfs share problems?
[00:55] <Jared> I know what the problem is, but I don't know how to fix it
[00:55] <Dr_willis_> Jared,  whats the url to that game?
[00:55] <ubuntu> Dr_willis_: ok...i tried to boot my system, and it wouldn't boot. it mentioned something about trying to load an image, but it not being there. like...from the swap, i think. i tried to start kdm and gdm,
[00:55] <Jared> www.runescape.com
[00:55] <ubuntu> Dr_willis_: actually, i just setup that, but i removed the entry and tried to boo, and it wouldn't work.
[00:55] <Dr_willis_> ubuntu,   - the os looks for a 'resume image' if it dont find one it goes and does a normal boot.
[00:55] <yasahiro_> Jucato: the change are being saved to the file..
[00:55] <yasahiro_> changes*
[00:56] <Jucato> hm... then why wouldn't it work? :(
[00:56] <ubuntu> Dr_willis_: exactly, it said "normal boot", but then stood at a terminal login.
[00:56] <yasahiro_> http://pastebin.com/d22d6b028
[00:56] <yasahiro_> thats the file there....
[00:56] <tinin> barbara http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Smb4K?content=9814
[00:56] <Dr_willis_> ubuntu,  you  mean it went to the console login, not the X login?
[00:56]  * Jucato checks
[00:56] <ubuntu> Dr_willis_: yes....but sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start wouldn't work.
[00:56] <ubuntu> neither would gdm start
[00:56] <tinin> barbara_: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/smblansearch?content=41986
[00:57] <Jucato> yasahiro_: I notice you have set it to use different wallpapers for different desktops? are you sure you're applying/looking at the correct desktop?
[00:57] <Dr_willis_> ubuntu,  which is saying that perhaps that X is missconfigured. or your video drivers are wrong. has it ever worked on this machine?
[00:57] <ubuntu> Dr_willis_: i just finished setting up a nfs server, it worked fine, but when i went to reboot the client, tada! but..i removed the entry of nfs in fstab, but still wouldn't boot.
[00:57] <yasahiro_> right now, i have it back down to one
[00:57] <ubuntu> Dr_willis_: oh yeah, it was working fine, untill i rebooted.
[00:58] <Dr_willis_> ubuntu,  the nfs stuff dosent have anything to do with X.
[00:58] <ubuntu> Dr_willis_: think an nvidia xorg config would help? shall i post xorg?
[00:58] <Dr_willis_> ubuntu,  try the command 'startx'
[00:58] <yasahiro_> i set it back down to one before i copied that text
[00:58] <Dr_willis_> Jared,  - that game is working here fine.
[00:58] <ubuntu> well...i could do that..but i'll have to leave the live cd and try to boot....
[00:58] <Jucato> yasahiro_: can you pastebin the updated file again please?
[00:58] <Dr_willis_> Jared,  You may not have the proper java installed/setup ? try 'java -version' in the terminal.
[00:58] <ubuntu> Dr_willis_: it also seemed to not wanna lettme use net after logging into console
[00:59] <ubuntu> i tried getting irssi from there, but it couldn't access.
[00:59] <Dr_willis_> ubuntu,  sounds like you got a lot of other issues going on.
[00:59] <yasahiro_> http://pastebin.com/d29d55f50
[01:00] <ubuntu> Dr_willis_: but i'm on the machine right now in live, so i dunno. i messed around a lot with trying to get network shares to work, and then finaly someone walked me through nfs.
[01:01] <Jucato> yasahiro_: do you have multiple screens/monitors?
[01:01] <ubuntu> Dr_willis_: so i'm about to try and boot, startx and anything else advisable? how about this: i've not booted in a long time...is it possible that the kernel or whatever has been updated...so i need to recompile the official nvidia drivers?
[01:01] <yasahiro_> i did try a tv here, but it gave me a headache, so it was only plugged in for around 15 - 20 minutes
[01:02] <Jucato> when was this?
[01:02] <yasahiro_> however, i did have multiple virtual desktops (4) until this happened, then i moved it down to one
[01:02] <yasahiro_> that was lastnight
[01:03] <Jucato> hm... ok this is going to be sort of drastic. this will reset your desktop settings, but you'll have a backup just in case.
[01:03] <Jucato> "cd ~/.kde/share/config" then "mv kdesktoprc kdesktoprc.backup"
[01:03] <wesley> to wich path should i install flash?
[01:04] <yasahiro_> okay
[01:04] <yasahiro_> did that
[01:04] <Dr_willis_> Well as ubuntu left he just SHOWED us what his problem is...
[01:04] <genii> wesley: Do you mean where should you download it to?
[01:04] <Dr_willis_> Hes not using the nvidia drivers from the repos. thus the kernel update needs the nvidia drivers installed..
[01:04] <Jucato> yasahiro_: logout, and log back in
[01:04] <wesley> no where to install it i am install it using the file from adobe
[01:05] <yasahiro> okay
[01:05] <genii> wesley: On my box flash plugin appears in dir /usr/lib
[01:06] <yasahiro> done that now
[01:06] <genii> wesley: And /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[01:06] <Dr_willis_> I just cheat and found a .deb for flash that does work :) the bot has a  link to the thread in the 2nd flash factoid
[01:07] <yasahiro> and what i first noticed, is that a background is actually there
[01:07] <genii> Dr_willis_: Heh, nice
[01:07] <Jucato> yasahiro: so fixed?
[01:07] <yasahiro> YAY!!!
[01:07] <biovore> Anyone know if ubuntu repos will have this new flash version in it anytime soon?   I see people have made .debs but non are offical ubuntu debs..
[01:08] <yasahiro> my chihiro and matsuri wallpaper ^^ lol :P thank you so much ^^
[01:08]  * Jucato wonders from which anime
[01:08] <yasahiro> hani hani operation sanctuary
[01:08] <yasahiro> its a good anime
[01:09] <yasahiro> which reminds me
[01:10] <yasahiro> i must be getting back to it
[01:10] <yasahiro> since i have to finish that one, and then uta-kata, and then binchou-tan, and i also have anime after those that i never got around to watching
[01:11] <Jucato> oh... another shoujo thing... ok well have fun :)
[01:11] <yasahiro> lol
[01:11] <yasahiro> i like the nice fluffy ones :P
[01:11] <yasahiro> never did get into the mecha ones like gundam... or things like inuyasha or dragonball gt...
[01:12] <Jucato> heh anyway... that's a bit offtopic now :P
[01:12] <yasahiro> oh well, wrong convo to be talking about things like that... later! and thanks again, dr willis, and jucato, for helping me ^^
[01:12] <Dr_willis_> I watched all of the Inuyasha... :) egads that took forever.
[01:12] <Dr_willis_> Then it dident actually END. !
[01:12] <genii> Jucato: Gotta love it when ppl know how to pick up a hint LOL
[01:12] <yasahiro> of course it didnt :P
[01:12] <yasahiro> lol
[01:12] <yasahiro> wow
[01:13] <yasahiro> this suddenly turned into an anime chat
[01:13] <yasahiro> lol
[01:13] <yasahiro> ill go and let it go back to kubuntu help... see ya ^^
[01:13] <blizzzek> gn8
[01:14] <raghu_> wanted to know how to install ncurses and ncurses-devel package on kubuntu 7.10. how can u do that?
[01:14] <Dr_willis_> fire up the package manager, search for ncurses install the opackage
[01:14] <Dr_willis_> !find ncurses
[01:14] <ubotu> Found: lib64ncurses5, lib64ncurses5-dev, libncurses5, libncurses5-dbg, libncurses5-dev (and 16 others)
[01:15] <Dr_willis_>  libncurses5-dev  seems to be the package name
[01:15] <Dr_willis_> you proberly want to install some other developer tools as well. like build-essentials - if you havent allready
[01:16] <raghu_> i installed build-essentials
[01:16] <raghu_> my package manager is not able to find any matches for libncurses or anything similar
[01:17] <raghu_> i am using adept installer
[01:17] <Dr_willis_> sudo apt-get install  libncurses5-dev  libncurses5
[01:18] <g2g591> Taghu_: adept_manager is the adept family package manager with the details
[01:19] <raghu_> libncurses5 is installed
[01:19] <raghu_> E: Couldn't find package libncurses5-dev
[01:20] <Dr_willis_> do an apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade
[01:20] <Dr_willis_> then try agian i guess..
[01:20] <CruCio> kubuntu and ubuntu no significant diff right ?
[01:20] <Dr_willis_> One has kde, other has gnome
[01:20] <biovore> yup.
[01:20] <Jared> how do I register?
[01:20] <Dr_willis_> You can install gnome onkubuntu, or kde on ubuntu.. so it dont matter much
[01:20] <CruCio> good
[01:20] <CruCio> good
[01:21] <CruCio> willis , they all uses the sudo right ?
[01:21] <biovore> yup
[01:21] <Dr_willis_> sudo is a common linux feature.
[01:21] <CruCio> ok
[01:21] <g2g591> CruCio: Kubuntu is slightly behind with plug and play printers and a few other things, but they will catch up next release
[01:21] <CruCio> am going to delete the ubuntu and install kubuntu
[01:21] <raghu_> still it cannot find the package
[01:21] <Jared> how do I register?
[01:22] <g2g591> CruCio: don't bother, just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:22] <genii> CruCio: When running graphical apps the gui sudo commands differ however
[01:22] <g2g591> Jared /msg nickserv register password
[01:22] <genii> kdesu gksu   et al
[01:22] <CruCio> hmm
[01:22] <Dr_willis_> kde4 has kdesudo :)
[01:22] <CruCio> so it will delete the ubuntu
[01:22] <Jucato> Dr_willis_: other way around
[01:22] <CruCio> and install the kubuntu instead ?
[01:22] <genii> Dr_willis_: Nice
[01:22] <Dr_willis_> CruCio,  theres no need to DELETE anything
[01:23] <biovore> CruCio: the differeance is a package..
[01:23] <genii> Dr_willis_: kdesudo seemed broken before
[01:23] <g2g591> CruCio: no, that apt will install them both, they live quite peacefully together
[01:23] <Dr_willis_> You can have Ubuntu and kubuntu both installed at the same time.
[01:23] <biovore> CruCio: you can run both kde and gnome and xfce at the same time.. just install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop etc
[01:23] <genii> You can even run applications from one while inside the other
[01:23] <Jucato> genii: I don't think kdesudo has been ported to kde4 yet... and kdesudo is being actively maintained/fixed
[01:24] <genii> Jucato: You mean kdesu not ported to kde4 yet? I'm confused a bit now
[01:24] <CruCio> why run them both when them both are the same ?
[01:24] <Dr_willis_> theres a kdesudo command in kde4 i thouhg.  I thought it was a   script/wrorkaround however.
[01:24] <genii> CruCio: They are not the same
[01:24] <Dr_willis_> you can run gnome apps under kde, and kde apps under gnome - it dosent matter.
[01:25] <CruCio> thanks willis
[01:25] <raghu_> Dr_willis_: still apt-get complains E: Couldn't find package libncurses5-dev
[01:25] <genii> CruCio: The stuff underneath which happens at command line remains reasonably the same throughout all *buntu but gnome and kde are very different animals
[01:25] <Dr_willis_> raghu_,  your sources.list file may need to be corrected.
[01:25] <Dr_willis_> !easysource
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easysource - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <Dr_willis_> Hmm.. what is that url.
[01:26] <Jucato> genii: kdesudo is a (so far Kubuntu-only) utility that uses sudo by default and behaves exactly like sudo. kdesu is a KDE utility that (recently) can either use su or sudo as backends (in Kubuntu it uses sudo). kdesu exists in KDE 4. but kdesudo doesn't
[01:26] <Dr_willis_> !source
[01:26] <CruCio> kubuntu comes with the kde right ?
[01:26] <genii> Jucato: Ah, OK. Dr_willis confoozled me then earlier
[01:26] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[01:26] <Dr_willis_> K = Kde in K ubuntu
[01:26] <CruCio> Willis how do i download gnome
[01:26] <CruCio> in ubuntu
[01:26] <CruCio> sudo apt-get gnome ?
[01:26] <CruCio> install*
[01:26] <Jucato> Ubuntu uses GNOME
[01:27] <Dr_willis_> install gnome-desktop like the guy said earlier.
[01:27] <Dr_willis_> Oh wait its 'ubuntu-desktop' :)
[01:27] <genii> CruCio: ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop are larger packages which each include the neccesary window managers in the list of packages they install
[01:27] <CruCio> ok then
[01:27] <CruCio>  i shall install
[01:27] <Jucato> Ubuntu = GNOME; Kubuntu = KDE; Xubuntu = Xfce. those are just the defaults. you can mix and match to your heart's content
[01:27] <CruCio> kubuntu anddownload ubuntu-desktop on it
[01:28] <genii> CruCio: You just need: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:28] <CruCio> dude, if am installing kubuntu and deleting ubuntu
[01:28] <CruCio> its for a reason
[01:28] <genii> CruCio: Then at login prompt choose KDE for Session Type
[01:28] <Dr_willis_> theres no need to 'delete' ubuntu
[01:28] <CruCio> its because i don't have the original CD rom
[01:28] <CruCio> i lost it
[01:29] <CruCio> when i try installing java terminal asks for the original os rom
[01:29] <CruCio> OS CD
[01:29] <CruCio> which i don't have
[01:29] <sstchur> I'm trying to find a .iso download of Kubuntu that has KDE4?  I tried hardy-alternate-i386.iso from kubuntu.org website, but it installed with 3.5, and I didn't see KDE4 as an option in the login screen or anything.  What am I doing wrong?
[01:29] <Dr_willis_> CruCio,  that has nothing to do with it. :) you can easially fix that.
[01:29] <Jucato> go for it Dr_willis_!
[01:29] <Dr_willis_> remove the cdrom from the sources listing .
[01:29] <CruCio> Willis , don't forget am using a ps3
[01:29] <Jucato> (next time, it would help if you told what the real problem is :D)
[01:30] <biovore> !ps3
[01:30] <Jucato> it doesn't matter where you're using it :)
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <Jucato> biovore: PlayStation 3
[01:30] <Dr_willis_> CruCio,  i have pasted some urls on installung java on the  ps3. from the psubuntu web site. Yave you read those?
[01:30] <basy> Hi, I have problem: after 5 min my screensaver strarts with no problem, but after another 5 minutes monitor turns off, what is supposed for that?
[01:30] <genii> CruCio: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list   then insert a # before the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list             then ctrl-x to exit, choose Y to save change, Enter/Return to choose same name to save under
[01:31] <Dr_willis_> http://psubuntu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1571 Installing java on the ps3.
[01:32] <TheWhiteRook> does anyone know how to get juK working in KDE4?
[01:32] <Tm_T> how it doesn't work?
[01:32] <TheWhiteRook> it tells me that it can't find the right "demultiplexer" plugin
[01:32] <Jucato> install it?
[01:32] <Tm_T> as in, what exactly you are asking
[01:33] <Jared> Java still won't install, any1 know how I can get it to install?
[01:33] <TheWhiteRook> when I try to play a song, it either does nothing, skips to the next song, or tells me it can't find the right "demultiplexer" plugin
[01:34] <tinin> Jared are you still asking the same?
[01:34] <Dr_willis_> Jared,  have you read the ps3 wiki pages on java ? [01:34] <Jared> im not installing it on ps3
[01:34]  * genii ponders the demultiplexer 
[01:34] <Jared> and yes tinin, it is still the same
[01:34] <tinin> ok
[01:34] <g2g591> Jared: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin ?
[01:34] <Jared> will try
[01:34] <CruCio> that didn't work
[01:35] <tinin> that's been done
[01:35] <Dr_willis_> i always install the  kubuntu-restricted-extras package to get java
[01:35] <CruCio> ohh
[01:35] <tinin> maybe it installs version 5
[01:35] <CruCio> yea i tried that extras packages
[01:35] <Jared> E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-plugin
[01:35] <CruCio> it asked me for my CD OS
[01:35] <tinin> sun-java5-plugin
[01:35] <CruCio> it stoped installing at 99%
[01:35] <Jared> didnt work
[01:35] <Dr_willis_> you need to remove the cdrom from the /etc/apt/sources.list file, then rerun 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:36] <g2g591> CruCio: just put a # infront of your cd rom entry in the file the Dr mentioned
[01:36] <CruCio> how do i do that ?
[01:36] <sime_> can i install windows xp onto kubuntu
[01:36] <genii> CruCio: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list   then insert a # before the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list             then ctrl-x to exit, choose Y to save change, Enter/Return to choose same name to save under
[01:36] <Dr_willis_> You can install XP inside vmware, or virtual box.
[01:36] <sime_> Dr_willis_: wat does that mean
 try virtualbox, it's very easy to install
[01:37] <CruCio> hmm
[01:37] <Jared> E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-plugin
[01:37] <Dr_willis_> You install vmware, or virtual box.. then install  the OS inside them
[01:37] <Dr_willis_> !vmware
[01:37] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[01:37] <Dr_willis_> !virtualbox
[01:37] <ubotu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[01:37] <Dr_willis_> isent the proper java version up to 6 now?
[01:37] <Dr_willis_> !java
[01:37] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:37] <sime_> Dr_willis_: is virtual box free
[01:37] <biovore> I think it is
[01:38] <Dr_willis_> read what the bot just said...
[01:38] <Jared> E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-plugin
[01:38] <CruCio> genii
[01:38] <Dr_willis_> !find sun-java6-plugin
[01:38] <ubotu> Found: sun-java6-plugin
[01:38] <CruCio> fow how long do you plan stayin in here ??
[01:38] <genii> CruCio: Yes?
[01:38] <Dr_willis_> !info sun-java6-plugin
[01:38] <ubotu> sun-java6-plugin (source: sun-java6): The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-03-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 80 kB
[01:38] <CruCio> i will be back later ok ?
[01:38] <tinin> sime_ it's free, look in their webpage for further info
[01:38] <CruCio> so u can repeat what u said
[01:38] <Dr_willis_>  Jared  you may need to enable the multiverse repository
[01:38] <genii> CruCio: At least another hour or so
[01:38] <biovore> he have universe enabled?
[01:38] <CruCio> i'd have to log on my ubuntu
[01:38] <Jared> dr_willis  how do i enable the multiverse repository
[01:39] <Dr_willis_> !multiverse
[01:39] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:39] <Jared> hmph k
[01:39] <Dr_willis_> adept proberly has some check box's to do it also.
 you still need to learn about managing repositories, it's easy
[01:40] <Dr_willis_> or run that 'add/remove programs' icon  - it has a manage repositories thing also
[01:40] <mefisto__> is the screen resolution keyboard shortcut (ctrl-alt- +/-) no longer working in gutsy?
[01:40] <Jared> dr_willis_ I enabled all the repositories in the add/remove
[01:40] <Dr_willis_> K -> add/remove programs -> Edit software sources
[01:41] <Dr_willis_> Jared,   refresh the sources list then.
[01:41] <tinin> it will be that i guess XD
[01:42] <Jared> k
[01:42] <Dr_willis_> I normally install the ubuntu-restricted-extras and kubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:42] <Dr_willis_> that grabs java and mp3 stuff and other things
[01:42] <CruCio> hopefully kubuntu would work good for me
[01:43] <genii> mefisto__: Works on mine. Are you using the numberpad + and - ?
[01:43] <Jared> how do I install the restricted extras?
[01:43] <palomo> hola
[01:43] <palomo> alguien habla español??
[01:43] <Jared> i think ive done sumthing... and i think/ hope its good
[01:43] <genii> !es
[01:44] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:44] <israel> sip yo
[01:44] <Dr_willis_> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:44] <Dr_willis_> is how i do it. :)
[01:44] <Jared> kk
[01:44] <Dr_willis_> I dont use the adept tool much
[01:44] <Jared> will try in a second
[01:44] <melanie> ok so i'm having an issue with amarok
[01:44] <Jared> join #amarok for help mel D
[01:44]  * CruCio shakes Willis's hands
[01:44] <melanie> it won't create a lockfile...
[01:44] <melanie> i'm in amarok
[01:45] <melanie> #amarok rather
[01:46] <TheWhiteRook> I'm irritated cuz amarok would break things if it installed
[01:46] <melanie> and no one had any ideas
[01:46] <TheWhiteRook> in KDE4
[01:46] <melanie> so i thought someone here would have an idea
[01:46] <melanie> TheWhiteRook: kde4 isn't really 'ready' to be a desktop WM anyways
[01:47] <Dr_willis_> try making a new user and see if it works for them.
[01:47] <melanie> you mean a new user for ubuntu?
[01:47] <Dr_willis_> yes.. not sure any other way to  make a new user.. :P
[01:47] <TheWhiteRook> melanie: I know. And it's slightly irritating
[01:47] <melanie> Dr_willis_: that's not a solution.
[01:47] <Dr_willis_> melanie,  its a TEST to see
[01:48] <Dr_willis_> if it works for a new user. but not the old.. then its some settin thats messed up
[01:48] <limac> hey, whenever I am tring to exit dolphin there is this error message saying: Unable to save bookmarks in /home/limac/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive.
[01:48] <Dr_willis_> if its affecting all users.. then theres some deeper bug going on.
[01:48] <limac> how to fix that
[01:48] <limac> ?
[01:49] <melanie> Dr_willis_: can't i just run amarok as root?
[01:49] <Dr_willis_> melanie,  you could try... not sure what that would prove.  :)
[01:49] <melanie> well i really don't want to create another user
[01:49] <limac> anyone?
[01:50] <Dr_willis_> since root can write anywhere. that wont show if its the users home dir that has a permission issue or not.
[01:50] <tinin> melanie kde4 works great as a wm right now ;P
[01:50] <tinin> some bugs
[01:50] <melanie> tinin: i didn't say it doesn't work... it's just not ready to be a desktop WM... like for everyday use for everyone
[01:50] <Dr_willis_> limac,  i would say check the permissions on the files/dirs in  the  /home/limac/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml path
[01:50] <melanie> Dr_willis_: well if it's a permissions issue, shouldn't a chmod 777 or chown <myuser> take care of it?
[01:50] <limac> alright thx Dr_willis
[01:50] <Dr_willis_> melanie,  thats rather... drastick
[01:50]  * CruCio Pats melanie
[01:51] <melanie> don't pat me
[01:51] <genii> limac: sudo chown limac /home/limac/.kde/apps/d3lphin/*
[01:51] <Dr_willis_> sort of like killing a fly with a shotgun, and not looking for the actual problem. Do what you want.
[01:51] <limac> genii: thx
[01:51] <tinin> melanie well, I tried the 4.0, and I'm still using it, it is very nice and works very well yet
[01:51] <melanie> Dr_willis_: well i think creating another user just to test ipod working is an even worse soltuion
[01:51] <melanie> if it's a permissions issue, that should be taken care of
[01:52] <limac> genii: it says no such file or directory
[01:52] <Dr_willis_> melanie,  its a 10 sec test.   to prove its not a system problem. but a user problem.
[01:52] <melanie> ok i'll try it
[01:52] <genii> limac: Also refrain from doing things like: sudo d3lphin in future
[01:52] <melanie> i just hate having crap all over the system for no reason
[01:52] <Dr_willis_> delete the user afterwards
[01:52] <genii> limac: then instead: sudo chown -R limac /home/limac/.kde/apps/d3lphin
[01:52] <melanie> yea, that won't delete ALL the stuff created from creating a new user
[01:53] <Dr_willis_> They just have a home dir.. and  anything else is handled by the commands that remove the user.
[01:53] <limac> genii: also says no such file or directory
[01:53] <melanie> ok new user created
[01:53] <melanie> loggin in with it now
[01:53] <limac> genii: will restarting my system work?
[01:53] <genii> limac: no
[01:53] <limac> hmmm
[01:54] <limac> so what can I do
[01:54] <genii> limac: then instead: sudo chown -R limac /home/limac; sudo chown -R limac /home/limac/.kde
[01:54] <melanie> uhm
[01:54] <Jared> I think I've got Java working
[01:54] <Jared> just hav to download
[01:55] <melanie> so i created a new user, but it won't let me login with it lol
[01:55]  * genii hands Jared a mug of coffee
[01:55] <Jared> lol
[01:55] <Jared> it's only taken like 6 hours!
[01:55] <genii> laptop ding, afk looking for cord
[01:56] <Jared> lol
[01:56] <limac> genii: there is such a file if I navigate thru dolphin, so is there a way for me to fix it thru there?
[01:56] <melanie> i go k menu -> switch user -> start new session
[01:56] <Jared> wtf this java download is so slow
[01:56] <melanie> kicks me to a login screen, i go to login with the new user and it takes me back to this session
[01:56] <CruCio[IPHONE]> Melanie , you're on kubuntu ps3 ?
[01:57] <melanie> ps3?
[01:57] <melanie> i'm on kubuntu 7.10
[01:57] <CruCio[IPHONE]> playstation 3
[01:57] <Dr_willis_> This sounds like some deeper permission issues going on. You might want to try logging out completely and  just logging in as the new user.
[01:57] <melanie> alright...
[01:57] <CruCio[IPHONE]> hmm
[01:57] <genii> limac: Not sure. Likely it's cached until you exit
[01:57] <CruCio[IPHONE]> is ur kubuntu installed on a ps3 ?
[01:58] <melanie> uhm no
[01:58] <melanie> why would it be
[01:58] <CruCio[IPHONE]> ok
[01:58] <limac> genii: so how can i get rid of this?
[01:58] <melanie> and why would you assume it would be lol
[01:58] <CruCio[IPHONE]> because mine is
[01:58] <Dr_willis_> its been ps3 day today on the linxu channels for some reason
[01:58] <melanie> well that's a safe assumtion
[01:58] <genii> limac: Did you actually try the: sudo chown -R limac /home/limac; sudo chown -R limac /home/limac/.kde          ?
[01:58] <melanie> alright i'll try to logout
[01:59] <limac> genii: yeah, but hold on I think I kinda got it (how to fix it)
[01:59] <genii> limac: If you actually do own that stuff and not root or someone else, it may need to be made writeable
[02:00] <limac> genii: nm, I fixed it w/your help. BTW what does chown and chown R do?
[02:00] <limac> *chown -R
[02:01] <genii> limac: chown means to change ownership. -R means recursively do it
[02:01] <limac> ah! thx genii, i really appreciate your help ;)
[02:01] <genii> limac: You're welcome. Please try not to run any file managers with sudo, always use kdesu instead
[02:02] <Jared> y is java6 taking so long to download? I have adsl 2+
[02:02] <limac> alright
[02:02]  * CruCio[IPHONE] Pats Melanie
[02:02] <genii> CruCio[IPHONE]: She already told you she doesn't appreciate that
[02:05] <Jared> argh this is sooo slow!
[02:05] <Jared> im going, thanks every1 for ur help
[02:06] <genii> Must be on dialup
[02:06] <cryonv> Can someone help get my eth0 and eth1 straightened out...
[02:06] <NickPresta> cryonv, what seems to be the problem?
[02:07] <kiba> 3~http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52965/
[02:07] <kiba> I tried to upgrade to kde4 before it is packaged, thinking it is already packaged already
[02:07] <kiba> and was presumely installing a test version of kde4
[02:08] <cryonv> NickPresta, great question. Half the time I can't seem to turn eth1 (not connected) off (ifconfig eth1 down) and when I do get it down.. eth0 doesn't seem to be working
[02:08] <cryonv> NickPresta, I've checked my route and made sure there was a default gw...
[02:08] <genii> kiba use the --reinstall switch to ignore existing files it wants to write
[02:09] <cryonv> NickPresta, I've even tried the KNetworkManager interface, but it doesn't appear tohelp
[02:10] <genii> cryonv: Do yu have in fact 2 ethernet adapters?
[02:10] <cryonv> genii: Yes. Two gig ports...
[02:11] <genii> cryonv: Hmm. try: ifconfig eth2 up          and tell me if it thinks you have an eth2
[02:11] <genii> sudo ifconfig eth2 up                  that is
[02:12] <cryonv> eth2:ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[02:12] <genii> cryonv: OK. Means eth0 for instance wasn't reassigned to eth2 or similar situation then
[02:13] <cryonv> genii: True... Right now I've got eth0 up.. (and of course loopback)
[02:13] <cryonv> But it's not seeing the world..
[02:14] <genii> cryonv: Did you statically set them or do they have some automatic entry in /etc/network/interfaces to just get an ip
[02:15] <cryonv> genii: eth0 is a static setting...
[02:15] <genii> NickPresta: Sorry if I hijacked on you
[02:15] <NickPresta> genii, it's okay. I had to run downstairs to get something. You provided more help than I could :)
[02:15] <cryonv> LOL... Personally thank you both... It's been a while since I've been on here helping out... and this one has got me stumped...
[02:16] <genii> NickPresta: Ah, all good then :)
[02:16] <genii> cryonv: So when you take down eth1 eth0 goes with it, seems?
[02:17] <genii> cryonv: Did you install bonding at some point?
[02:17] <genii> like ifenslave  or such
[02:17] <cryonv> genii: Not really. I can take down eth1 *sometimes*, other times it appears to deallocate it's IP address and wait for re-allocation... eth0 goes down... and comes up with ifconfig.. however.. there doesn't appear to be anybody home... :(
[02:18] <cryonv> genii: That program is not currently installed.
[02:18] <genii> cryonv: Ok, good (that it's not installed)
[02:19] <cryonv> I'm thinking I got something screwed up royally in the network manager... OR that KDE and gnome have become hazardous to eachother...
[02:19] <genii> cryonv: Just on a hunch here...did you make your own cables?
[02:19] <cryonv> LOL.. yes, but I was connecting earlier on the same machine... I was going from Ubuntu and installing KDE overtop...
[02:20] <thomas_newbie__> can someone help me I can't get My apache2 server to work on localhost
[02:20] <thomas_newbie__> whenever i do mysite.com/~username It takes me to a page but localhost doesn't work
[02:21] <CruCio[IPHONE]> Genii
[02:21] <CruCio[IPHONE]> brb ok
[02:21] <CruCio[IPHONE]> stay
[02:21] <genii> cryonv: I had a similar issue was driving me crazy two weeks ago and it was because I didn't wire the plugs in EIA568A or 568B on cat5e cabling. dhcp was sporrty as hell even at distances of 30-40 feet
[02:21] <cryonv> thomas_newbie: what happens when you type in 127.0.0.1/~username
[02:22] <rc-1> in bash what command reads a line?
[02:22] <kiba> no such switch as  sudo apt-get --reinstall
[02:22] <kiba> no such switch as  sudo apt-get --reinstall
[02:22] <kiba> no such switch as apt-get --reinstall
[02:23] <kiba> whoops
[02:23] <kiba> sorry
[02:23] <stdin> kiba: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package>"
[02:23] <kiba> my irssi was scrolled up
[02:23] <supersako> if i have ubuntu installed already and i just add kubuntu-desktop... is there a performance hit running kde this way? or will it be the same as if i uninstalled everything and just install kubuntu?
[02:23] <what_if> what program controls the multimedia keys in kubuntu ??
[02:24] <stdin> supersako: there's no difference
[02:24] <kiba> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[02:25] <kiba> it still tell me though
[02:25] <cryonv> genii: Any more ideas?
[02:25] <kiba> any idea?
[02:25] <Datalanche> Hey guys.... I have question about the proprietary driver's xvmc acceleration. Does it only accelerate certain codecs or does it just do the whole xv layer, not caring what codec it is?
[02:25] <kiba> sudo apt-get -f install won't work
[02:25] <Datalanche> nvidia card, I mean, sorry
[02:26] <justin_> why wont kubuntu allow me to install any programs from adept
[02:26] <genii> cryonv: Can you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces   also /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[02:27] <genii> cryonv: dhclinet.conf is assuming eth1 is set for dhcp
[02:27] <genii> *dhclient
[02:27] <cryonv> genii: LOL... Let me see what I can do... After all it's not talking to the network...
[02:27]  * kiba is sad
[02:27] <kiba> make me want to buy ubuntu tech support
[02:27] <justin_> can someone help me out
[02:27] <genii> cryonv: Yep I understand
[02:28] <jared> ok, im annoyed
[02:28] <jared> I spent almost an hour downloading the java6 thing from the adept manager
[02:28] <justin_> it wont let me d/l anything
[02:29] <justin_> from adept manager.  it is very strange
[02:29] <jared> then when it went to install, it wldnt install!
[02:30] <genii> cryonv: just aditional info: for EIA568B wiring cable order left to right looking at contact side of plug and not where the plastic clip is: orng-wht/orng/grn-wht/blue/blue-wht/grn/brn-wht/brn
[02:31] <cryonv> Genii: True... Orange, Split the green, flip the blue, brown
[02:32] <tinin> jared is not your day ;)
[02:32] <jared> i kno grr
[02:32] <jared> u kno y it isnt working?
[02:32] <jared> and y it took almost an hour to download 32MB?
[02:32] <tinin> wich version of kubuntu are you using?
[02:33] <tinin> 7.10
[02:33] <supersako> guys, i am a software/web developer.. what DE do the devs here use? Gnome or KDE ( i dont want to start a flame war i just need advice for my needs)
[02:33] <tinin> ?
[02:33] <jared> 7.10
[02:33] <tinin> installed?
[02:33] <jared> wha?
[02:33] <jared> oh, yea installed not on live cd
[02:33] <tinin> jared is it installed or are you running it from the cd?
[02:33] <tinin> ok
[02:34] <Dragnslcr> supersako- what programs do you use for development?
 have you got gnome installed?
[02:34] <jared> no
[02:35] <NickPresta> supersako, take a look at Aptana. it's a great IDE for CSS/HTML/JavaScript and has plugins for Ruby and Rails as well as PHP. http://aptana.com/
[02:35] <Dragnslcr> Bunch of guys where I work use Aptana, and they all like it
[02:35] <sub[t]rnl> supersako➜ #kubuntu  Pretty safe bet that the majority here use and prefer KDE.
[02:36] <tinin> Kde does not get as much love as gnome here in ubuntu :(, in ubuntu (gnome) when you surf to a web that needs flash or java, it would install all you need. On kubuntu this may change for the next version I hope
[02:37] <thomas_newbie__> My Apache2 server init script is broken can anyone help to fix?
[02:37] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, what is broken about it?
[02:37] <jared> tinin, r u saying I can't run Java in kubuntu then?
[02:37] <tinin> no
[02:38] <jared> omg, now i can't even open the adept manager
[02:38] <tinin> I say it should'nt give you such headaches
[02:38] <jared> it isn't working...
[02:38] <Jucato> tinin: on Kubuntu, when you browse a page that needs flash in Konqueror, you'll be prompted if you want to install Flash. not so sure about Java.
[02:38] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: hey Nick. Apparently it doesn't start my apache2 service
[02:38] <jared> nothing is worjking
[02:38] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, any errors or output?
[02:38] <NickPresta> !doesn't work | jared
[02:38] <ubotu> jared: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[02:38] <jared> lol
[02:38] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: no errors
[02:39] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, post it in a !pastebin. I can take a quick look at it
[02:39] <jared> Ive spent the last 4 hours giving examples of how it doesnt work
[02:39] <jared> dunno how much more u want
[02:40] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: post what?
[02:40] <genii> Well, 32Mb in a long time IS working, just sloooowly
[02:40] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, the init.d script.
[02:41] <genii> thomas_newbie__: What script did you mean that was not working? One you made to start the webserver?
[02:41] <cryonv> Genii: Ok... where would you like the file again?
[02:41] <jared> it downloaded, but it wldnt install
[02:41] <jared> and now i cant even open the freaking adept manager
[02:41] <tinin> jared It may be somethig wrong, it is not normal, there must be somethig you missed or something you did wrong. If you have nothing important reinstall, it is just 10 min jared
[02:41] <jared> ive reinstalled twice
[02:41] <tinin> XD
[02:42] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: yes I assume the one that starts my webserver because: 'apache2ctl restart' works and sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start  doesn't work
[02:42] <NickPresta> jared, does Adept give you any errors?
[02:42] <jared> I can't open it
[02:42] <jared> it says its already running or sumthing
[02:42] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, is this the apache2 package from the repos or a compiled version and your custom init.d script?
[02:42] <NickPresta> !apt-fix | jared
[02:42] <ubotu> jared: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[02:42] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: from package
[02:42] <tinin> You can not use adep because it may be in use  the apt-get or aptitude commands jared
[02:43] <genii> cryonv: pastebin please
[02:43] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, hmm, strange. I just had a buddy install the apache2/php/mysql packages today. The init.d script worked fine. If you pastebin /etc/init.d/apache2 I can see if there is an error somewhere
[02:43] <genii> !paste|cryonv
[02:43] <ubotu> cryonv: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:43] <sub[t]rnl> jared➜ does a license agreement appear when you try to install java?
[02:44] <jared> it did
[02:44] <jared> i clicked next
[02:44] <jared> then next again
[02:44] <jared> then an error came up
[02:44] <Dr_willis_> Egads! you agreed to it!
[02:44] <Dr_willis_> :P
[02:44] <jared> and now i cant open adept
[02:44] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52966/
[02:44] <D> hello
[02:44] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: yesterday, I decided to make some changes and make PHP and MySQL working so I installed some of those packages
[02:45] <tinin> jared try launching: sudo adept_manager
[02:45] <tinin> from a konsole
[02:45] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: the funnny thing that happened was that APACHE 1.3 not apache2 took over the operations and I had to uninstall apache 1.3
[02:45] <jared> ive got adept manager running now
[02:45] <tinin> it will tell you something at least
[02:45] <bazhang> !aptfix | jared
[02:45] <ubotu> jared: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[02:45] <cryonv> Genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52967/
[02:45] <jared> i did that
[02:45] <Jucato> tinin: kdesu (or kdesudo) with GUI apps, never just sudo
[02:45] <sub[t]rnl> kdesudo would be better tinin
[02:45] <jared> and it worked
[02:45] <D> Hi guys,  I was using firefox in kubuntu and pressed alt f4 and it dumped me in a console screen that said tty4 and since then i have no keyboard input.  It
[02:46] <Syn-> im trying to get Kubuntu-7.10-amd64 to install on a Dell XPS 720 (Q6600 + nvidia 8800 w/ 4GB memory) and it seems the X drivers are out of date, even with safe mode it doesn't work
[02:46] <D> 's like ctrl is stuck. any help?
[02:46] <Syn-> is there a work around documented somewhere?
[02:46] <cryonv> D: ALT-F7
[02:46] <Syn-> :[
[02:46] <tinin> Jucato: sub[t]rnl why not just sudo?
[02:46] <D> will try cryonv
[02:46] <Jucato> !kdesu | tinin
[02:46] <ubotu> tinin: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[02:46] <jared> do I install sun-java6-jdk, jre, plugin or all?
[02:47] <tinin> I'll see
[02:47] <cryonv> Syn: Did you install the Nvidia driver from Nvidia?
[02:47] <tinin> jared the 3 I told u
[02:47] <Syn-> no, easiest way to do that is?
[02:47] <tinin> -bin -jre -plugin
[02:47] <jared> which are?
[02:47] <jared> kk
[02:47] <tinin> and fonts
[02:47] <Jucato> sun-java6-plugin will actually install -jre and -bin
[02:47] <jared> I have bin installed already
[02:48] <Syn-> heck, even the 'safe mode' doesnt work
[02:48] <Jucato> you don't need -jdk unless you're developing
[02:48] <sub[t]rnl> -jdk is the development toolkit
[02:48] <jared> OMG!
[02:48] <jared> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:48] <jared> oops
[02:48] <jared> anywya, didnt work
[02:48] <jared> stupid error message
[02:48] <bazhang> two seperate commands jared first one then the other
[02:48] <jared> ?
[02:48] <tinin> you need to close adept to use sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:49] <tinin> i think
[02:49] <jared> i kno
[02:49] <jared> i said that command on accident lol
[02:49] <tinin> sudo dpkg --configure -a fixes problems usually
[02:50] <jared> this stupid thing wont work
[02:50] <jared> cant install any of the shit in the adept manager for java
[02:50] <tinin> ok, throw your pc from a window
[02:50] <jared> good call
[02:50] <Syn-> cryonv: how do i install the nvidia drivers during the install process?
[02:50] <tinin> it doesn't work
[02:50] <jared> except its not mine, its my brothers
[02:50] <cryonv> Syn: Hang on a sec...
[02:51] <jared> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[02:51] <cryonv> Ok... I think I have it... When you boot what does it give you? Does it dump you to a prompt?
[02:51] <jared> omg its working
[02:51] <cryonv> genii: Any ideas on my problem?
[02:51] <jared> im in an installer for java
[02:52] <Syn-> i tried the Kubuntu-KDE4-x86 test release and that actually worked, though i had a drive issue and decided id rather go with the stable version in 64bit mode
[02:52] <tinin> jared just be patient, "first times hurt" but in a few weeks you'll rule with linux
[02:52] <jared> I ticked the agree box and clicked next
[02:52] <jared> now its installing
[02:52] <jared> every1 cross ur fingers for me!
[02:52] <tinin> middle finger up...
[02:52] <jared> lol
[02:53] <genii> cryonv: Nothing new atm.
[02:53] <jared> omg, it installed
[02:53] <cryonv> Syn: I'm running the 7.10 x64 (AMD) version...
[02:54] <BluesKaj> yeah jared, been using linux so long , i can't help my windoes friends cuz i'm forgetting how to fix stuff in it
[02:54] <jared> how do u make ur writing red to me
[02:54] <tinin> XD
[02:54] <Dr_willis_> jared,  we dont
[02:54] <tinin> XD jared
[02:54] <Dr_willis_> jared,  your irc client does. :)
[02:54] <BluesKaj> by using your nick in the sentence, jared
[02:54] <cryonv> genii: OK... I'm not above blowing away the install... (installed today) and starting from scratch...
[02:54] <jared> oh lol
[02:55] <tinin> now play
[02:55] <cryonv> Syn: And....
[02:55] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, it looks okay, I don't see why it wouldn't start. Would it be a big deal to purge remove apache2
[02:55] <jared> the computer is now heaps slow after I installed the java...
[02:55] <jared> lets hope it works
[02:56] <tinin> java is slow
[02:56] <jared> didnt work :D
[02:56] <Syn-> cryonv: yeah it worked with the hard hardy alpha 2 release, im gonna download alpha 3 and go with that
[02:56] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: I thought I did that but I guess I can do it again
[02:56] <cryonv> Syn: hang on a sec...
[02:56] <Syn-> cryonv rahter then force this to work by updating drivers or editing files, i do enough of that for work
[02:56] <cryonv> What do you get when you boot?
[02:56] <genii> cryonv: Could be driver for the nic
[02:56] <Syn-> after the boot menu it says kernel active
[02:56] <Syn-> then the screen goes blank
[02:57] <Syn-> then the monitor goes into power save mode
[02:57] <genii> cryonv: My Yukon adapter kept cutting out before for instance
[02:57] <cryonv> Syn: Ok... enjoy... Alpha's usually are a joy...
[02:57] <CruCio> good
[02:57] <cryonv> NOT
[02:57] <jared> will install more java things
[02:57] <cryonv> genii: OK.. I'll look into it.
[02:57] <jared> bye
[02:58] <cryonv> Well folks... I gotta go run off in to the darkness... At least it's snowing and not what it could be... -20... Ug...
[02:58] <Syn-> yeah i typically am not an alpha runinng type of person but since an alpha today is 100000000x better then a stable distro release 13 years ago ill give it a shot
[02:58] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: alright i did this: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2       and it did its thing..Am I still suppost to have all my apache2 files?
[02:59] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, I don't believe so.
[02:59] <cryonv> Syn: Isn't that the truth...
[02:59] <genii> cryonv: don't forget your mittens....
[02:59] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: lol well I have an apache2 folder with my files
[02:59] <cryonv> genii: LOL... Just wish I had an auto start on my car... grrr...
[02:59] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, sudo apt-get purge apache2. it should get rid of config files and such. the folders may still exist
[03:00] <genii> cryonv: I wish I had autostart on my peds
[03:00] <BluesKaj> sacktime here , nite folks
[03:00] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: that command not work
[03:01] <CruCio> Genii
[03:01] <CruCio> ok
[03:01] <CruCio> its asking for my CD
[03:01] <CruCio> what did you said i do ?
[03:01] <CruCio> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[03:01] <CruCio>  'Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release powerpc+ps3 (20071016)'
[03:01] <CruCio> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[03:01] <genii> CruCio: Well, before you run that where it even wants you to put the cd:
[03:02] <genii> CruCio: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list   then insert a # before the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list             then ctrl-x to exit, choose Y to save change, Enter/Return to choose same name to save under
[03:02] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: invalid operation purge
[03:02] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, then --purge remove should be fine
[03:03]  * cryonv wanders off into the dark snowy evening...
[03:03] <CruCio> genii , so i do this before even trying to install java
[03:03] <CruCio> right ?
[03:04] <genii> CruCio: Yes
[03:04] <CruCio> ok Genii
[03:04] <CruCio> i did it
[03:04] <CruCio> and it has open something calledGNU
[03:05] <CruCio> :| ??
[03:06] <CruCio> GNU nano 2.0.6                    File: /etc/apt/sources
[03:06] <genii> CruCio: Does it end with a $  like a shell prompt?
[03:07] <CruCio> nope
[03:07] <genii> CruCio: Ah, you just have nano open. do then the steps
[03:07] <CruCio> yes nano is opened
[03:07] <genii> CruCio: eg:    put a # in front of line that starts with cdrom
[03:07] <genii> CruCio: Then ctrl-x
[03:08] <genii> CruCio: Then Y to save
[03:08] <genii> CruCio: Then Enter to exit
[03:08] <CruCio> i don see any word that starts with cdrom
[03:08] <CruCio> honestly
[03:08] <CruCio> i see this
[03:08] <hdevalence> when I try to run Amarok I get
[03:09] <hdevalence> QObject::connect: Incompatible sender/receiver arguments
[03:09] <hdevalence>         StarManager::ratingsColorsChanged() --> ContextBrowser::ratingOrScoreOrLabelsChanged(const QString&)
[03:09] <CruCio> ]
[03:09] <CruCio> ^G Get Help  ^O WriteOut  ^R Read File ^Y Prev Page ^K Cut Text  ^C Cur Pos
[03:09] <CruCio> ^X Exit      ^J Justify   ^W Where Is  ^V Next Page ^U UnCut Text^T To Spell
[03:09] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: no luck nick :( i'm stuck
[03:09] <genii> sigh
[03:09] <D> hi guys, alt f7 didn't help getting my ctrl key un-stuck (i think pressing alt f4 started the whole mess, trying to close windows like in MS)  Any thoughts?
[03:09] <CruCio> there is nothing writtin in nano
[03:09] <genii> CruCio: then just hit ctrl-x
[03:10] <CruCio> ok
[03:10] <CruCio> now am back to terminal
[03:10] <genii> CruCio: I don't know much about the way the ps3 install is supposed to go. So you may want to visit the place recommended before http://psubuntu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7
[03:10] <genii> for the java install
[03:10] <CruCio> hmm
[03:11] <CruCio> genii , first i just open terminal and type in sudo nano etc... right ?
[03:11] <genii> CruCio: On regular ubuntu/kubuntu that file /etc/apt/sources.list contains lines which are sites to go and get packages from
[03:11] <genii> CruCio: No! Please, pay attention
[03:12] <jared> Java is working :D
[03:12] <jared> thanks heaps everyone that helped
[03:12] <CruCio> :(
[03:12] <genii> CruCio: Since your /etc/apt/sources.list file has no contents the ps3 way to install things must work in a different way
[03:12] <CruCio> :(
[03:12] <genii> CruCio: Have you even gone to go look at http://psubuntu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7           ??
[03:13] <CruCio> yes i have , genii
[03:13] <jared> How do I change the screen resolution? still haven't found everythign in KDE :P
[03:13] <CruCio> even when i googled
[03:13] <CruCio> and whenver i type in $ sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2 libstdc++5 java-package
[03:13] <CruCio> in terminal
[03:13] <CruCio> it asks me for my cd rom
[03:13] <jared> How do I change the screen resolution? still haven't found everythign in KDE :P
[03:13] <CruCio> before it can continue installation
[03:14] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: I have apache and Apache2 removed and purged. How come I am still able to run my server?
[03:14] <CruCio> jared ?
[03:14] <CruCio> are you using ps3 ?
[03:14] <jared> no
[03:14] <CruCio> :(
[03:14] <jared> lol
[03:14] <ardchoille> CruCio: Please try to form complete sentences, this aids in readability as well as helps to keep scrolling to a minimum.
[03:15] <genii> CruCio: So you went to the Sun website, registered there and downloaded the file ibm-java2-sdk-5.0-4.0-linux-ppc.tgz as the first step already?
[03:15] <jared> any1 know how I can change screen res?
[03:15] <CruCio> yes genii  have
[03:16] <genii> CruCio: OK wait 1 minute while I look into whether the ps3 kubuntu is supposed to have a blank sources.list
[03:17] <dappermuis> is it possible to delete old pgp keys from the public key servers?
[03:18] <genii> CruCio: OK. I have determined that your file is supposed to contain regular repository entries, there are no special ones apparently to put in. Since it is empty, go to source-o-matic and make a new one
[03:18] <genii> !source-o-matic | CruCio
[03:18] <ubotu> CruCio: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:20] <thomas_newbie__> I removed and purged apache2 and yet I can still use sudo apache2ctl restart to start the server. The normal init script doesnt work
[03:21] <justin_> my kubuntu will not let me install anything.  can somebody help me??
[03:22] <thomas_newbie__> justin_: have you tried apt-get?
[03:22] <justin_> yep
[03:22] <justin_> all i want to do is install firefox.  i am a linux noob and dont know how to compile anything
[03:23] <thomas_newbie__> justin_: I dont know what X Windows you have but go to adept package manager
[03:23] <sub[t]rnl> shouldn't need to compile any packages that are in the ubuntu repositories, justin
[03:23] <thomas_newbie__> justin_: Adept manager
[03:23] <sub[t]rnl> justin_➜ http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[03:23] <all_in_sane> \j #python
[03:23] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: you know anything about my problem?
[03:24] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ what was it again? you removed apache but you can still start it?
[03:24] <justin_> i tried the add remove programs app but everything is greyed out and it wont let me select anything
[03:25] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: yea, i removed it initially because my init script is not working. I wanted to re-install fresh and I removed and purged apache2 and apache. I am still able to start it :D and access pages. ?? HUH? ALl I want to do is make my init script work
[03:26] <thomas_newbie__> justin_: k menu -- system -- adept manager
[03:26] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ hrm, if its running and you can access pages, everything seems fine
[03:26] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[03:26] <justin_> i am there it is reloading
[03:27] <justin_> i srchd for firefox and it did not come up with anything
[03:27] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: HEHE, no I I have to do 'sudo apache2ctl restart'
[03:27] <hdevalence> when I try to run Amarok I get "
[03:27] <hdevalence> QObject::connect: Incompatible sender/receiver arguments
[03:27] <hdevalence>         StarManager::ratingsColorsChanged() --> ContextBrowser::ratingOrScoreOrLabelsChanged(const QString&)
[03:28] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ did the init scrip complain when you ran it?
[03:28] <ardchoille> justin_: Are you on Gutsy?
[03:28] <justin_> yea
[03:28] <hdevalence> and then it crashes
[03:28] <justin_> i fixed it i had to hit the fetch updates button
[03:28] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: negative
[03:28] <ardchoille> justin_: Fixed now?
[03:29] <justin_> yea]
[03:29] <ardchoille> justin_: Good job :)
[03:29] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ how did you know the init scrip wasn't working?
[03:29] <justin_> thnx
[03:29] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ script*
[03:29] <justin_> what about the system updates?? a good idea or not??
[03:30] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: I could not start up my webserver. Some guru on Apache told me to use 'sudo apache2ctl restart'
[03:30] <ardchoille> justin_: Always good to keep the system updated
[03:31] <justin_> ok.  i have been using windoze for years but i am very new to linux any tips or hints
[03:31] <bazhang> http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/ justin
[03:32] <ardchoille> justin_: Bookmark this: http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/index/C/index.html
[03:32] <justin_> ok
[03:33] <ardchoille> justin_: You'll find Linux is a whole different ball game, but very rewarding :)
[03:34] <justin_> ok
[03:34] <batis610> I have an ATI RADEON video card X1650,, i tried many tutorials to install it with no result, so i formate my computer many times.... Now i'm asking those who have the same card PLEASE WICH TUTO DID FOLLOW TO INSTALL IT?
[03:34] <ardchoille> justin_: Here's another good site: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu
[03:34] <thomas_newbie__> Actually my Schools Linux Club is trying to think of some CRAZY Project to do with Linux
[03:34] <justin_> i am using it on a toshiba laptop.  what about power managementy
[03:34] <Tm_T> !caps | batis610
[03:34] <ubotu> batis610: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:35] <batis610> Tm_T: sorry :)
[03:35] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: ? hi?
[03:36] <sub[t]rnl> ?
[03:36] <thomas_newbie__> i answer back. no idea why?
[03:37] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ if its running and works, then call it good.  Or apt-get --purge it and reinstall, to see if that changes anything.  Not much information on what exactly the problem is with your init script if your saying that it doesn't complain when you run it. (if there even is a problem)
[03:37] <genii> batis610: Have you tried here? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[03:38] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: init script doesn't complain but doesn't start the server.
[03:38] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: I apt-get --purged remove apache2 already
[03:39] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ you didn't edit the apache2 script at all did you?
[03:39] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: well yes some
[03:39] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: not much
[03:39] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ odd that it wouldn't run it, the very first line of the script defines your shells paths.
[03:40] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ subtrnl.homelinux.com/apache2 <-- theres mine.  cp it to your /etc/init.d/ with proper permissions, then sudo update-rc.d apache2 defaults
[03:41] <arrrghhh> ok so i installed kubuntu ontop of ubuntu really easy... why can't i remove it by just purging kubuntu-desktop?  it had no trouble installing everything by installing that one package...
[03:42] <jared> Me again :D
[03:42] <jared> more problems
[03:42] <arrrghhh> or is there an easy way to remove it?
[03:42] <jared> im in monitor & display settings and I can't change the screen size
[03:42] <jared> when I move the little thing, it says do you want to keep these settings
[03:42] <jared> but it hasn't changed
[03:43] <sub[t]rnl> arrrghhh➜ its a kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage
[03:43] <jared> any1 kno y?
[03:43] <jared> and how do I get this "metapackage"?
[03:43] <arrrghhh> ok
[03:43] <arrrghhh> i love kubuntu
[03:44] <jared> lol, u were talking to him
[03:44] <jared> im starting to like kubuntu too
[03:44] <arrrghhh> i'm converting someone to linux, and kubuntu has worked great on every machine.. until this one
[03:44]  * genii hands sub[t]rnl the large bottle of ibuprofen
[03:44] <arrrghhh> and ubuntu worked fine
[03:44] <batis610> genii: i'll try it
[03:44] <jared> can sum1 help me?
[03:44] <sub[t]rnl> genii➜ :>
[03:44] <arrrghhh> but i installed the kubuntu-desktop package and hoped i could get it working, but no... and i'm giving up and going back to gnome because it works.  now i want to remove everything KDE on the system.  the menus are clogged to crap!
[03:44] <batis610> sometimes kubuntu start in console mode..... how to avoid this
[03:45] <sub[t]rnl> arrrghhh➜ sudo apt-get remove adept adept-batch adept-common adept-installer adept-manager adept-notifier adept-updater akregator amarok amarok-xine apport-qt ark arts debtags digikam dolphin enscript fftw3 foomatic-db-gutenprint gdebi-kde gnupg-agent gpgsm gtk-qt-engine gwenview hplip-gui hwdb-client-kde ijsgutenprint k3b kaddressbook kaffeine kaffeine-xine kamera karm katapult kate kbstate kcontrol kcron kde-guidance
[03:45] <sub[t]rnl> kde-guidance-powermanager kde-icons-mono kde-style-polyester kde-systemsettings kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins kdebluetooth kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdepasswd kdepim-kio-plugins kdepim-kresources kdepim-wizards kdeprint kdesktop kdesudo kdm kdnssd keep kfind kghostview
[03:45] <sub[t]rnl> khelpcenter kicker kio-apt kio-locate kio-umountwrapper kipi-plugins klipper kmag kmail kmailcvt kmenuedit kmilo kmix kmousetool kmplayer-base kmplayer-konq-plugins knetworkconf knotes konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole kontact konversation kooka kopete korganizer kpdf kpf kppp krdc krfb kscreensaver ksmserver ksnapshot ksplash ksplash-engine-moodin ksvg ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog ktorrent kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[03:45] <sub[t]rnl> kubuntu-default-settings kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-docs kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts kvkbd kwalletmanager kwin kwin-style-crystal language-selector-qt libakode2 libarts1-akode libarts1c2a libartsc0 libaudio2 libavahi-qt3-1 libclucene0 libcluceneindex0 libdbus-qt-1-1c2 libept0 libexiv2-0 libflac++6 libgmp3c2 libgpgme11 libid3tag0 libifp4 libijs-0.35 libimlib2 libjpeg-progs libk3b2 libkbluetooth0 libkcal2b libkcddb1 libkdcraw1 libkdepim1a
[03:45] <jared> spam?
[03:45] <sub[t]rnl> libkexiv2-1 libkipi0 libkleopatra1 libkmime2 libkonq4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libksba8 libkscan1 libksieve0 libktnef1 liblua50 liblualib50 libmimelib1c2a libmodplug0c2 libmpcdec3 libmysqlclient15off libnjb5 libofa0 libopenexr2c2a libopenobex1 libpoppler-qt2 libpq5 libpth20 libpulse0 libpythonize0 libqt-perl libqt3-mt libqt4-core libqt4-gui librsync1 libruby1.8 libsamplerate0 libsearchclient0 libskim0 libsmokeqt1
[03:45] <genii> AAAAAAAAAAAAAa
[03:45] <arrrghhh> holy crap
[03:45] <arrrghhh> can you give that in a pastebin or something?
[03:45] <arrrghhh> i mean damn
[03:45] <arrrghhh> that's probably not all of it even
[03:46] <jared> sum1 help please!!
[03:46] <jared> my monitor display settings arent working
[03:46] <sub[t]rnl> sorry everyone, had no idea the clipboard was that full...
[03:46] <sub[t]rnl> arrrghhh➜ http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[03:46] <jared> i change screen size, but it doesnt work
[03:46] <sub[t]rnl> for removal of kde components
[03:46] <arrrghhh> thanks you
[03:47] <jared> i change screen size, but it doesnt work, any1 kno y?
[03:47] <AssuredAnomaly> are you changing it by the gui, or xconfig
[03:47] <AssuredAnomaly> ?
[03:47] <jared> in the system settings
[03:48] <sub[t]rnl> jared➜ backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:48] <AssuredAnomaly> yea what he said
[03:48] <AssuredAnomaly> lol
[03:48] <jared> what will that do?
[03:48] <jared> and how do I backup that thing?
[03:49] <SyncopatedFool> ktorrent and konqueror will no longer let me connect, konqueror will work as a file manager, will not let me access websites.  ktorrent will let people upload from me if i have things seeded, but will not let me connect and download new files
[03:49] <SyncopatedFool> what is wrong?
[03:49] <AssuredAnomaly> you dont need to back it up...its a precaution, like "back up the registry before installing a new driver" in windows
[03:49] <AssuredAnomaly> good advice
[03:49] <sub[t]rnl> jared➜ open !konsole and   sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup, then run the other command
[03:49] <AssuredAnomaly> but no one does it
[03:49] <jared> kk
[03:49] <arrrghhh> yea
[03:49] <CruCio> hmm , seriously this isn't right
[03:49] <arrrghhh> i forget to back things up when i make changes...
[03:50] <sub[t]rnl> SyncopatedFool➜ firewall?
[03:50] <arrrghhh> it's a good habit to be in, backing up config files
[03:50] <CruCio> i don't think its a fact that u can install java on ubuntu ps3
[03:50] <SyncopatedFool> sub[t]rnl: firestarter, but i've been running that with no changes for months
[03:51] <sub[t]rnl> SyncopatedFool➜ disable it, and try
[03:51] <sub[t]rnl> to be sure
[03:51] <genii> CruCio: Anything is possible. Some of it just is long and frustrating
[03:51] <jared> what do I do after entering sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:52] <SyncopatedFool> sub[t]rnl: command to that in terminal? i run it behind everything, without the graphical controls
[03:52] <jared> what do I do after entering sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:52] <CruCio> genii. i have tried all the links and codes people assumed using it to get java working
[03:52] <CruCio> but why isn't mine working for me ?
[03:52] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: yea so I used yoru script...when I enter 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2.sh start' it just goes to the next line without giving ok or error or nothing
[03:52] <jared> sub[t]rnl : what do I do after entering sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:53] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ ps ax |grep apache and see if its running
[03:53] <genii> CruCio: Beats me. But I think you need to find more ps3 specific help somewhere
[03:53] <jared> sub[t]rnl : what do I do after entering sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:54] <sub[t]rnl> try changing your resolution again
[03:54] <jared> kk
[03:54] <sub[t]rnl> SyncopatedFool➜ its a front end to iptables, sudo iptables -L to see what rules are up, or fire up the firestarter gui and click the disable button to check if thats the source of the problem
[03:54] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52971/
[03:55] <jared> sub[t]rnl it didnt work
[03:56] <sub[t]rnl> !resolution > jared
[03:57] <SyncopatedFool> sub[t]rnl: ktorrent still not connecting
[03:58] <SyncopatedFool> i should note firefox works perfectly fine, and i can't test with azureus, that not working is why i got ktorrent
[03:58] <SyncopatedFool> konqueror won't connect either
[03:58]  * burner thinks deluge and ktorrent > azureus
[03:59] <burner> SyncopatedFool: you have a firewall?  your isp block torrent traffic?
[03:59] <burner> try encrypting it?
[03:59]  * val0 azureus is awesome!
[03:59] <SyncopatedFool> burner: no, it's been working fine for months, firewall's firestarter, i have it disabled, i have my hardware firewall disabled
[04:00] <jared> whered that guy go?
[04:01] <CruCio> Genii, even with the link you gave me i must register in order to d/l the specific java and after that withen the download manager you require Java plugin
[04:01] <jared> who gave me that code?
[04:01] <burner> SyncopatedFool: try encrypting, maybe your ISP is only recently sucking
[04:01] <jared> it put my computer into some weird thing
[04:01] <jared> and it didnt fix it
[04:01] <thomas_newbie__> It says my package is broken after I tried to Remove it . What happened?
[04:01] <CruCio> and i don't have java installed on my ubuntu so the download manager wont open
[04:01] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ sudo apt-get install -f
[04:02] <SyncopatedFool> burner: it's weird, because every kde app i have seems to screw up like this, kopete won't connect either, i'm having to use pidgin
[04:02] <SyncopatedFool> burner: everything gtk or tcl/tk works
[04:02] <burner> SyncopatedFool: i'd guess there's a kde specific proxy set.  via konq maybe?  is this kde4 or 3?
[04:03] <SyncopatedFool> 3
[04:03] <burner> SyncopatedFool: there anything in kcontrol about network settings or proxy?
[04:03] <sub[t]rnl> hrm, SyncopatedFool try killing knetworkmanager and then sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[04:04] <genii> CruCio: Did you go to the source-o-matic website to create a sources.list file? Yours is empty, thats why nothing can install
[04:05] <bazhang> that site was down as of yesterday genii
[04:05] <SyncopatedFool> burner: nothing in proxy no socks enabled
[04:05] <genii> bazhang: Ah, OK. Was unaware
[04:06] <bazhang> and the bot has forgotten the !easysources command :{
[04:06] <CruCio> :|
[04:06] <SyncopatedFool> sub[t]rnl: that will kill all network connectivity temporarily, correct? i just want to verify so i can warn people i'm talking with
[04:06] <CruCio> source-o-matic ?
[04:07] <sub[t]rnl> SyncopatedFool➜ yes, its temporary.
[04:07] <CruCio> dude, am very new to ubuntu
[04:08] <CruCio> and i only need it to browse the web and do some research
[04:09] <SyncopatedFool> weird
[04:09] <SyncopatedFool> i just killed knetworkmanager and i'm still running
[04:09] <CruCio> how do i create sources list ?
[04:09] <sub[t]rnl> SyncopatedFool➜ and do kde apps connect now?
[04:09] <LogicalDash> KDE Help Center doesn't seem to be obeying my theme
[04:10] <SyncopatedFool> sub[t]rnl: heh, wow, go figure.  that did it
[04:10] <SyncopatedFool> ktorrent works
[04:10] <sub[t]rnl> don't ask me how, just keep it in mind if it ever comes up again... :p
[04:11] <steveny> hello
[04:11] <SyncopatedFool> i don't either, but that should be easy to remember, thanks
[04:11] <genii> !paste
[04:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:11] <steveny> I have just started kubuntu!!! can anyone please help with a quick USB question?
[04:12] <sub[t]rnl> ask away steveny
[04:12] <steveny> all of my usb stuff is not being detected:(
[04:12] <genii> CruCio: Use this for  starting point of your sources.list then since source-o-matic is down
[04:12] <genii> CruCio: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52973/
[04:13] <CruCio> thanks for your help genii
[04:13] <CruCio> but am gonna try to find this thing out myself
[04:13] <steveny> lsusb gives Bus device ID 0000:0000
[04:13] <sub[t]rnl> dmesg telling you anything when you plug it in?
[04:14] <CruCio> am getting tired of all this googling and besides non og you guys uses a ps3
[04:14] <genii> CruCio: change debian.yorku.ca   and us.archive.ubuntu.com   to local names if you can, like ru.archive.ubuntu.com    or so <-- note country code of russia for that one
[04:15] <steveny> i don't know what to look for in there:( it is very long :(
[04:15] <sub[t]rnl> plug it in, then dmesg |tail
[04:16] <CruCio> were 314people in this chat room and no one is using ps3
[04:16] <steveny> it says all bluetooth stuff...nothing about usb
[04:16] <bazhang> many are idle CruCio
[04:16] <CruCio> guess windows users and linux users lives complately in a diff world
[04:17] <CruCio> steveny , guess thats kubuntu's problem
[04:18] <bazhang> CruCio: more likely a hardware/driver problem
[04:18] <steveny> it worked when I livecd'ed...then I installed, and now the usb drives don't work:(    is there another ubuntu I should try?
[04:18] <CruCio> why don't you use ubuntu
[04:18] <CruCio> instead of kubuntu
[04:19] <bazhang> CruCio: that would not change a thing
[04:19] <steveny> well....I have ubuntu on a cd....but when I livecd'ed it, the drives weren't detected either:(
[04:19] <val0> ok i have a major newbie issue here. I installed compiz and now i can't log in. it doesn't fail with a message, just that right after press enter after typing my password it boots me back to the log in screen. I don't remember the exact URL but it's the tutorial off the Ubuntu Forums. The only mode that I could log in is text and console only
[04:20] <juliusrj> hello
[04:21] <steveny> when I installed it said something about /etc/mtab etc/fstab del/sdal whenit was detecting devies....specifically when I said open when it detected the usb drive during install
[04:22] <sub[t]rnl> val0➜ check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors.  to reconfigure a working xorg.conf, use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:24] <raoman> can anyone help me with ntfs prob on kubuntu 7.10
[04:25] <steveny> no luck anyone?:( oh well....maybe I'll try WD40 in the cd drive....
[04:25] <sub[t]rnl> !ntfs > raoman
[04:25] <squarebottle> Heya. I'm trying to use kmplayer (instead of kaffeine) because it can use mplayer as its engine, which supports .ass subtitles (yes, that's the name of the format), but it doesn't quite play back perfectly when I use the mplayer engine. I think it's because it's running out of memory, so do you know how I could increase the memory or something?
[04:26] <ian__> squarebottle, im very new to linux but maybe a larger swap parition would help?
[04:27] <squarebottle> ian__: Heh, thanks, but that isn't it. Swap is the equivalent of "virtual memory," so that wouldn't really help. In any case, the issue isn't that the computer doesn't have enough memory. It's that kmplayer isn't using enough of it!
[04:27] <ian__> ahh, gotcha
[04:30] <sub[t]rnl> squarebottle➜ might want to checkout the kmplayer forums if you can't find any help here
[04:31] <squarebottle> sub[t]rnl: Yeah. Was hoping somebody in here might know though, but yeah. :)
[04:31] <jcgkffycs> I am all of the sudden getting this error when i try to use apt-get, "the following packages have unmet dependencies:  dekorator: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installable             Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4) but it is not installable E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)." I have not tried any thing involving kde4 on the computer, none of the
[04:31] <jcgkffycs> repositories are enabled and nothing has been installed, also the app i am trying to install is inkscape which is actually a gnome app.
[04:31] <squarebottle> sub[t]rnl: I prefer IRC to forums anymore, personally. Once upon a time, I couldn't even imagine myself saying that. Heh. Anyway, I might also try in #kde
[04:31] <val0> sorry someone was helping me out with my compiz error, i can't remember who you were!
[04:31] <raoman> i managed to install ntfs loader on my kubuntu, but wat i hav is from dapper. it mounts my external drives, but sometimes they remain inaccessible even after mounting....any help?
[04:35] <thomas_newbie__> I really am having trouble. I can't remove apache2 and re-install properly
[04:36] <jazzles> are there any 5.6 ghz cups on the market?
[04:42] <batis610> i've installed compiz by typing sudo apt-get install compiz compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-core compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-plugins
[04:42] <batis610> how can launch it and test it?
[04:43] <bazhang> batis610: card drivers installed/enabled?
[04:43] <batis610> yes installed
[04:43] <bazhang> then alt f2 compiz --replace
[04:43] <bazhang> and alt f2 kwin --replace to get back out
[04:45] <ian__> Does the "desktop selector" pager that comes with KDE not work with compiz? I DLed a different one from kde-look and it worked so I was just wondering
[04:45] <batis610> bazhang: already done... what should i have then
[04:46] <bazhang> batis610: you need to go into the settings manager and check some of the plugins and then check the keybindings (key combos) to see if they work
[04:47] <rc-1> what program is good for backups
[04:50] <reverend_joshua> how well does installing a dual boot winxp/kubuntu setup work?
[04:50] <batis610> bazhang: keybindings?
[04:50] <ian__> reverend, I'm actually dual booting those 2 combos right now, works well.
[04:50] <sub[t]rnl> rc-1➜ I like tar and dd
[04:50] <bazhang> batis610: are you in the settings manager?
[04:51] <ian__> defenately wanna install windoZe first though unless you wanna tinker with the grub
[04:51] <reverend_joshua> xp is already on
[04:51] <ian__> oh ok
[04:51] <batis610> bazhang: advanced desktop settings manager
[04:51] <reverend_joshua> i've got the physical disk partitioned to c: and e:, kubuntu will go on e:
[04:52] <bazhang> batis610: yes; under keybindings there will be the suggested key combinations to get things going for the various effects
[04:52] <reverend_joshua> my only concern is the dual boot issue with this being a dell
[04:52] <reverend_joshua> i'm not certain of how/if grub works with it
[04:53] <ian__> I've dual booted with dells before without a problem...but it was an OLD computer so I don't know if it's changed....
[04:53] <reverend_joshua> this is a few years old
[04:53] <reverend_joshua> more than a few, 7 :(
[04:54]  * genii sips his NyQuil
[04:54] <ian__> hmm... Well the only way to see then would be to try it. As long as no valuable data is on E:, i'd think you should be good. haha, well seems to be a common age for compies
[04:54] <reverend_joshua> word
[04:54] <reverend_joshua> thanks for the info
[04:54] <ian__> NP, nest of luck to you... emails anonymous5929@gmail.com if you run into trouble
[04:56] <bazhang> batis610: you find them?
[04:57] <batis610> bazhang:no i think... i just check some combos nut nothing happens
[04:57] <QMario> Have any of you experienced a bug in which when you press "Ctrl+Tab" on the last tab of Konqueror 4, it crashes immediately?
[04:57] <bazhang> batis610: and you have which card and driver?
[04:58] <batis610> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[04:58] <batis610> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[04:58] <batis610> OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1650 Series
[04:58] <batis610> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)
[04:58] <genii> QMario: As well if it's some known bug, #kubuntu-devel may have help
[05:00] <bazhang> batis610: what combos did you check and what were the keybindings?
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> QMario➜ couldn't reproduce it here, check bugs.launchpad.net
[05:01] <yasahiro> now i have another problem..
[05:02] <QMario> Sub[t]rnl, are you on the last tab, and are you using Konqueror 4?
[05:02] <yasahiro> my kubuntu installation reads japanese mostly well... but i noticed there are a few japanese kanji that it just displays as boxes :(
[05:03] <biovore> yasahiro: you need to install the xfonts for them probably..
[05:03] <batis610> bazhang: rotate cube ==> ctrl+alt+left or right
[05:04] <bazhang> batis610: and what happens when you alt -f2 then compiz --replace and use those keybindings?
[05:05] <genii> sub[t]rnl: I checked launchpad, nothing similar in 75 results for konqueror including the 3.5.x series reports
[05:05] <vincent_> is anyone up for some quick noob-ish questions?
[05:05] <sub[t]rnl> genii➜ roger that
[05:05] <batis610> bazhang: nothing
[05:06] <ian__> vincent, im a noob myself but i'll try :-p
[05:06] <sub[t]rnl> only thing close is Bug #123615
[05:06] <genii> sub[t]rnl: Yup
[05:06] <bazhang> batis610: what about when you click on the desktop 2, 3, 4 icons--is it 3D-ish or not
[05:06] <vincent_> haha cool, thanks ian. i got kubuntu the other day, and its been great, except for two big problems: the first is Adept is being a massive pain in the arse
[05:06] <ian__> haha I see
[05:06] <vincent_> the second isnt as big a deal, my nvidia drivers refuse to work, but ill worry about that later
[05:06] <ian__> oh ok
[05:07] <yasahiro_> how would one install the xfonts?
[05:07] <ian__> so the first...
[05:07] <vincent_> but with adept, i think its like a repository thing..
[05:07] <ian__> ah, whats it saying?
[05:07] <vincent_> i check all the boxes, and then click 'get updates', it gets through 30% (looking for headers), then it just stops
[05:07] <batis610> bazhang: no nothing is in d
[05:07] <batis610> 3d
[05:07] <ian__> hmm
[05:07] <vincent_> hangs for about 5 minutes, then flashes, and nothing is fixed.
[05:08] <val0> squarebottle i did what you told me to do, copied the files, rebooted the machine and the problem is still there
[05:08] <vincent_> every time i try to get a file through apt-get, it says it cant be found
[05:08] <vincent_> any ideas, ian?
[05:08] <ian__> wow I've not heard of that...
[05:08] <ian__> sometimes when I have a problem with adept though... I try typing "dpkg --configure -a" into a terminal
[05:08] <ian__> that has fixed lots of problems in the past
[05:08] <bazhang> batis610: so using the alt-f2 commands (compiz --replace and kwin --replace) does nada?
[05:09] <vincent_> ahh ill give it a try
[05:09] <ian__> aight, I'll try looking through google...
[05:10] <vincent_> thanks for this ian
[05:10] <vincent_> ive looked through google for a while.. i wouldnt be this obsessed if amarok worked, but i think its all related
[05:10] <batis610> bazhang: nada... :(
[05:10] <ian__> NP, I'd like to help as much as I can
[05:10] <ian__> oh yeah
[05:10] <ian__> thats possible
[05:11] <vincent_> its giving me that 'unable to play mp3's' message that everyone seems to have, but just never works
[05:11] <bazhang> batis610: where did you install the drivers from? please dont tell me envy :{
[05:11] <ian__> yeah sounds like the reposotories are messed up...
[05:11] <batis610> i follows this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[05:12] <vincent_> is there a way to just wipe all the packages ive tried to install and just start over? im not to keen on a format, but i think ive buggered this
[05:13] <ian__> I think I've heard of a way but im not sure how to do it. Another way to test to see if its the repos would be to check/uncheck them one at a time and seeing which one is the trouble maker
[05:13] <vincent_> ah thats a good idea
[05:13] <vincent_> when i use apt-get, thats different to adept isnt it?
[05:13] <vincent_> or is it just the command line version?
[05:14] <ian__> I'm pretty sure its just he command line version
[05:14] <ian__> adept/synaptic i think are just GUIs
[05:14] <vincent_> ohh i see
[05:14] <ian__> adept seems to be alot touchier than synaptic (just switched over to KDE so im not entirely sure if I'm right)
[05:15] <vincent_> mm, i used to use slackware, and i dont remember ever having a problem with the packages.. but then, under slackware, i couldnt even get on the internet
[05:15] <dehspehl> anyone share my dislike for strigi, at least the kio part of it that takes over locate:/ ?
[05:16] <ian__> oh yeah, I tried slack too but had the same problem...didn't bother to invest the time because I fell in love too much with ubuntu lol
[05:16] <vincent_> lol
[05:16] <vincent_> yeh, the weird thing with this is i can just swap the partitions right now and go back to vista, and not have any problems
[05:16] <CruCio> genii ?
[05:16] <vincent_> but.. im hooked to ubuntu!
[05:16] <CruCio> how do i install something that i have just downloaded ?
[05:17] <vincent_> my sister just asked why i bothered to do all this, coz it means she cant play oblivion, and i didnt have an answer for her, lol
[05:17] <vincent_> sh <filename>
[05:17] <vincent_> isnt it crucio?
[05:17] <ian__> haha yeah, I'm loving going to bed and not hearing my HD buzzing from who knows what programs doing who knows what tasks...
[05:17] <vincent_> lol
[05:17] <CruCio> filename ?
[05:17] <vincent_> what are you installing crucio?
[05:18] <ian__> rofl I get the same from my fiance... but she doesn't care cause shes hooked on Kolf :-/
[05:18] <Berzerker> can I install kubuntu on a USB drive?
[05:18] <vincent_> oo, whats kolf?
[05:18] <CruCio> ibm-java2-sdk-5.0.-6.0-linux-pcc.tgz
[05:18] <dehspehl> vincent_: mini putt golf
[05:18] <val0> squarebottle i fixed it! i fixed it! with the method you told me to! I totally love you dude! but in the platonic kind of way!
[05:18] <ian__> lol it's a little golf game you can DL from the packagae manager.er, umm...yeah once its working lol
[05:18] <vincent_> ohh, awesome, i love gold.
[05:18] <vincent_> woops, golf*
[05:18] <vincent_> and gold.
[05:18] <vincent_> lol ian
[05:18] <ian__> haha
[05:18] <vincent_> ah crucio, i think that needs to be gunzipped
[05:19] <vincent_> but im not sure how to do it
[05:19] <CruCio> vincent how ?
[05:19] <batis610> bazhang: i follows this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[05:19] <dehspehl> vincent_: I'm having "vista just works, no problems" problems right now
[05:19] <sub[t]rnl> Berzerker➜ you can.  I've installed a working liveCD on one.
[05:19] <vincent_> hehe what do you mean?
[05:20] <vincent_> crucio: try typing gz ibm-java
[05:20] <dehspehl> vincent_: well only vista knows how to display stuff to the screen, now
[05:20] <vincent_> but the full filename
[05:20] <CruCio> gz -ibm- java ?
[05:20] <CruCio> in terminal right ?
[05:20] <bazhang> batis610: does that recommend you install from the repos or from the card manufacturer's site?
[05:20] <vincent_> hang on CruCio
[05:20] <vincent_> type
[05:20] <squarebottle> val0: Heh, great!
[05:20] <dehspehl> vincent_: for instance, dos boot floppy via usb? nada. ubuntu livecd? zilch. bios updates, don't help at all
[05:20] <vincent_> gz ibm-java2-sdk-5.0.-6.0-linux-pcc.tgz
[05:21] <genii> CruCio: You need to untar it first.   so:    tar -xvzf ibm-java2-sdk-5.0.-6.0-linux-pcc.tgz
[05:21] <dehspehl> vincent_: oh, and the bios/post/manufacturer stuff doesn't appear at all
[05:21] <vincent_> oo dont like the sound of that deh..
[05:21] <squarebottle> val0: Do you understand the different things I told  you to do? Like, if somebody else came along and asked you what happened, could you tell them?
[05:21] <genii> CruCio: It should make a file. so then: ./filename                   to run that
[05:21] <what_if> how do I change the multimedia keys for my keyboard? I need to disable the "standby" button (I've hit it twice today already :( :(
[05:21] <CruCio> i need unzip ot you mean ?
[05:21] <batis610> bazhang: iused method 1... from repos
[05:21] <vincent_> oh man, this irc channel is the most functional thing ive found in kubuntu so far ;)
[05:21] <ian__> yeah it's great...my first time on it
[05:21] <neville> -_-v
[05:22] <vincent_> mine too
[05:22] <yasahiro> no fair.... gimp can display that kanji... firefox can....openoffice can... yet amarok and kaudiocreator cannot
[05:22] <vincent_> GRR, amarok!
[05:22] <squarebottle> val0: I don't want you to feel like I just burped up some cryptic, arcane code and handed it at you, heh.
[05:22] <ian__> cool, how's the adept going?
[05:22] <ian__> oh doesn't sound good
[05:22] <bazhang> batis610: not sure about the ATI cards; I use nvidia seems like your drivers are not enabled though, seeing as you have ccsm installed etc
[05:22] <ian__> *sigh, I hate to tell you to reinstall...doesn't really SOLVE the problem...
[05:22] <vincent_> its doin the same stuff as before.. i just used apt-get update
[05:22] <val0> squarebottle yes totally, i was smart enough to make a back up copy of the xorg.cong because i knew that i'll need it later. I know that once I edited that xorg file the system broke... you helped me back up the one that's broken and over write it with the backup copy that i had
[05:23] <squarebottle> val0: Rock on. :)
[05:23] <vincent_> lol..  it might be my shady connection, i have 256k in australia.. everything is probably timing out, haha
[05:23] <yasahiro> anybody know how to get these programs that only display a box when i try to type the kanji... to actually recognize it? :(
[05:23] <sub[t]rnl> what_if➜ kcontrol -> Regional access -> keyboard shortcuts
[05:23] <ian__> oh haha, ya know...that may be it...
[05:23] <val0> squarebottle i think that i am starting to get the basics of linux, quiet different than windows
[05:23] <yasahiro> somebody said something about xfonts before...
[05:24] <ian__> honestly I'm stuck though. as for Nvidia Drivers though, did you use the "restricted drivers management"?
[05:24] <CruCio> genii explain step by step ?
[05:24] <squarebottle> val0: There's a really good quote about the simplicity of Linux. I forget who says it. It goes something like, "Linux is as simple as it gets, but you have to be a genius to understand its simplicity."
[05:24] <genii> CruCio: tar -xvzf ibm-java2-sdk-5.0.-6.0-linux-pcc.tgz
[05:24] <vincent_> amen, squarebottle
[05:24] <bazhang> yasahiro: you have scim installed?
[05:24] <val0> squarebottle the biggest think that i now need to learn is the meaning and location of certain vital files, ie. difference between /etc /bin etc.
[05:24] <ian__> haha great quote
[05:24] <yasahiro> well, i have skim...
[05:24] <val0> squarebottle lol true enough, once again thanks for holding my hand and helping me out!
[05:25] <vincent_> i dled the linux nvidia drivers, have to run them while KDE is off, but its claiming i dont have libc, which i really do.. so it probably all falls back to adept!!
[05:25] <yasahiro> its only a few kanji that it wont recognize
[05:25] <genii> CruCio: Tell me when it finishes
[05:25] <squarebottle> val0: No problem! BUT there's something you have to do too now.
[05:25] <neville> vincent_ you need libc6-dev
[05:25] <ian__> ahh well try this:
[05:25] <vincent_> ahh cheers nev! thanks man
[05:25] <ian__> neville, if he uses restricted drivers management program will it DL libc6-dev as a dependancy?
[05:26] <squarebottle> val0: To pay me back, here's what you have to do. The next person you see in real life, regardless of who they are, you've got to get them to somehow say to you, "I know you love me."
[05:26] <neville> I dunno, I've never used the restricted drivers manager :P
[05:26] <ian__> oh ahha
[05:26] <CruCio> genii , it says no such file or directory
[05:26] <bazhang> yasahiro: and have it configured it? once you have you should be able to right click select input method scim and then choose hiragana kanji etc
[05:26] <vincent_> lol square, thats a little strange ;)
[05:26] <squarebottle> vincent_: :P
[05:26] <ian__> lol
[05:26] <yasahiro> yeah, i did
[05:26] <squarebottle> vincent_: You gotta love it though. C'mon.
[05:26] <wilson> conditional help !
[05:27] <vincent_> squarebottle: of course ;)
[05:27] <yasahiro> like... for example...
[05:27] <genii> CruCio: Where did you put the file?
[05:27] <vincent_> squarebottle: i just hope im not the next stranger he sees :|
[05:27] <ian__> lol
[05:27] <squarebottle> vincent_: It gets interesting when a complete stranger walks in.
[05:27] <vincent_> hahah i can imagine
[05:27] <bazhang> yasahiro: and you right click in the entry box and choose input method scim? and then try typing in kanji etc?
[05:27] <CruCio> OMG!!
[05:27] <vincent_> grr! even when i use apt-get update it still hangs on 30%
[05:27] <CruCio> hmm
[05:28] <wilson> just tell them so0me nutter made you promise to get them to say it
[05:28] <squarebottle> vincent_: Probably most amusing when done at a bar, but yeah. And you can pass it off as being positive, too.
[05:28] <yasahiro> 映 displays fine...   像 displays fine.... 涙 (namida) just displays a box in everything except firefox, openoffice, and some other program..
[05:28] <CruCio> Genii
[05:28] <CruCio> i think i did it
[05:28] <ian__> well vincent, If you still have problems with Nvidia drivers, try opening up the "system settings" window, click on the "advanced" tab and then look in your "Restricted Drivers MAnagement". That should let you check and install your Nvidia drivers VERY easily
[05:28] <val0> squarebottle lol my lady is right across from me, and she just said that, does that count?
[05:28] <neville> Or
[05:28] <vincent_> squarebottle: lol, yeh, then they may feel a bit of guilt as they beat the crap out of me!
[05:28] <yasahiro> i can type it all
[05:28] <neville> Even easierly
[05:28] <yasahiro> but..
[05:28] <neville> You can use Envy
[05:28] <bazhang> yasahiro: then you need to install more fonts
[05:28] <ian__> hehe yeah
[05:28] <squarebottle> val0: Awww, how boring! But yeah, it counts. :P
[05:28] <ian__> envy rocks just a good if not better :)
[05:28] <neville> Even though these guys say it isn't supported and not to use it, use it anyway!
[05:28] <CruCio> i don't know if it has installed anything yet
[05:29] <vincent_> ohh thanks ian, hang on, imma try it
[05:29] <yasahiro> what fonts do i need?
[05:29] <ian__> ok
[05:29] <squarebottle> ian__: Envy is risky, actually.
[05:29] <bazhang> !envy
[05:29] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[05:29] <ian__> oh really?
[05:29] <neville> -_-v
[05:29] <vincent_> woah woah wait
[05:29] <neville> What did I tell you
[05:29] <neville> Anyway, the only problem it had was
[05:29] <neville> With my Geforce 2
[05:29] <genii> CruCio: so the tar command is done?
[05:29] <val0> squarebottle lol yeh i know, but we are all boring, look where we are talking and what we are talking about
[05:29] <neville> It needed a bit of "manual guidance"
[05:29] <CruCio> yes
[05:29] <CruCio> it loaded alot of files
[05:29] <squarebottle> val0: Hahaha, touche!
[05:30] <bazhang> yasahiro: you can apt-cache search japanese in the konsole for some of those; do you have kubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[05:30] <vincent_> this may sound stupid.. but is there some sort of firewall that comes by default with linux that may be stopping adept getting my files?
[05:30] <neville> Nope
[05:30] <squarebottle> vincent_: Nope.
[05:30] <CruCio> must i do anything els ?
[05:30] <vincent_> damn.
[05:30] <ian__> I dont think so
[05:30] <ian__> :(
[05:30] <vincent_> coz that really would solve all my problems
[05:30] <squarebottle> vincent_: Hmmmmmmm. What repositories do you have enabled?
[05:30] <ian__> repo problems ....dang
[05:31] <vincent_> i gotta tell you, im about ready to sacrifice a virgin to the great penguin to get this thing to work
[05:31] <wilson> i tried kubuntu hardy today in a virtual machine, works ok after a bit 'o mucking around, kde4 sessions crash the x server , that's the only problem for me so far
[05:31] <ian__> ROFL
[05:31] <bazhang> yasahiro: some examples would be ttf-kochi-mincho-naga, ttf-mikachan, and others
[05:31] <wilson> xorg 7.3 is a pain in the ass
[05:31] <sub[t]rnl> vincent_➜ a firewall does come with kubuntu by default, though its rules accept everything until configured
[05:31] <val0> squarebottle now i am going to figure out how to get rid of this thing... not ready for it just yet... do you by any chance if there is a way to see what packages you installed on your machine sorted by date?
[05:31] <vincent_> ok squarebottle, i have all of the ones ticked
[05:31] <neville> vincent_ you think you're having troubles
[05:31] <squarebottle> vincent_: There are better things to do with virgins than that, I assure you. Ahem. But yeah, what repositories do you have enabled?
[05:32] <vincent_> lol squarebottle
[05:32] <vincent_> whats wrong, neville?
[05:32] <vincent_> i have em all ticked squarebottle
[05:32] <squarebottle> vincent_: Is the one for the CD unchecked like it should be? And also, you can disable all the "source" repositories safely.
[05:32] <ian__> You didn't add any?
[05:32] <ian__> *by hand I mean
[05:32] <bazhang> vincent_: pastebin your sources list to let us see if that is it
[05:32] <vincent_> ah now it is..
[05:32] <neville> Try installing a Geforce 2 properly :D
[05:32] <neville> -> painful
[05:33] <CruCio> vincent ? after "tar" is done what do i do next ?
[05:33] <vincent_> pastebin?
[05:33] <squarebottle> vincent_: See if disabling the CD as a repository and all the source repositories makes your penguin deity sufficiently pleased.
[05:33] <vincent_> then use sh <filename>
[05:33] <CruCio> ?
[05:33] <bazhang> !paste | vincent_
[05:33] <ubotu> vincent_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:33] <ian__> ohh I hope it does, if so I learned something new
[05:33] <vincent_> ok imma trying square
[05:33] <vincent_> thanks ubotu
[05:33] <CruCio> vincent , i have no clue of what ur speaking of
[05:33] <CruCio> am new to ubuntu
[05:33] <bazhang> he is a bot vincent_
[05:34] <vincent_> oh
[05:34] <vincent_> lol, woops.
[05:34] <bazhang> :}
[05:34] <vincent_> thanks for telling me bazhang, probably saves a world of embarrasment when i try to ask it where it is from later..
[05:34] <CruCio> so after tar what do i do , vincent ?
[05:34] <vincent_> ok, now, my sources list
[05:34] <vincent_> crucio, whats your file called?
[05:34] <CruCio> explain specificaly ?
[05:35] <vincent_> now that it is untarred?
[05:35] <bazhang> vincent_: you can message the bot if you need factoids and such
[05:35] <CruCio> ibm-java2-sdk-5.0.-6.0-linux-pcc.tgz
[05:35]  * squarebottle loves when people think the bot is alive.
[05:35]  * vincent_ remembers the moral of the story I-Robot
[05:35] <ian__> lol
[05:35] <vincent_> bazhang: where is the sources list again?
[05:36] <gtt> what's the default keyboard shortcut for the menu in KDE4
[05:36] <gtt> driving me nuts
[05:36] <gtt> just installed.
[05:36] <vincent_>   /etc/ somewhere?
[05:36] <val0> if people think that the bot is alive doesn't it mean it passed the Turing test?
[05:36] <Tm_T> gtt: alt-F1 ?
[05:36] <CruCio> ??
[05:36] <gtt> not working for me.
[05:36] <gtt> maybe it's a bug?
[05:36] <vincent_> val0: is that the one from blade runner?
[05:36] <vincent_> oh, CruCio
[05:36] <gtt> i thought that was strange too.
[05:36] <vincent_> type
[05:36] <vincent_> sh  ibm-java2-sdk-5.0.-6.0-linux-pcc i think
[05:37] <vincent_> uh.. withtout the i thing
[05:37] <CruCio> k
[05:37] <gtt> i was also disappointed with how it didn't keep my startup apps so i was networkless until i figured out how to launch knetworkmanager
[05:37] <ian__> isn't it /etc/apt/sources.list ? or is there a different oen
[05:37] <val0> ok this is the most idiotic thing i've done in a long time.
[05:37] <bazhang> vincent_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:37] <Strangelet> I am thinking of installing XP on a seperate partition, the arrangement I have decided on so far is 1 with Kubuntu, 1 with XP, 1 filled with all my media, and 1 swap. Is this good? And what filesystem should the media partition be?
[05:38] <val0> i was testing my own Alt-F1 function, then Alt-F2, then Alt-F3 just to see what happens... Then Alt-F4 happend :S
[05:38] <vincent_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52980/
[05:38] <vincent_> lmao val0
[05:38] <Strangelet> val0, ecks-dee ecks-dee!
[05:39] <CruCio> vincent ? must the ibm-java2-sdk-5.0-6.0-linux-ppc.tgz be located somewhere ?
[05:39] <vincent_> nope?
[05:39] <vincent_> why, whats it saying?
[05:39] <CruCio> because i have and it says "can't Open"
[05:39] <vincent_> wait, youwant to sh the one that you have unzipped
[05:39] <vincent_> where did you unzip it to?
[05:39] <CruCio>  Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
[05:39] <CruCio> juju@localhost:~$ sh ibm-java2-sdk-5.0-6.0-linux-ppc.tgz
[05:39] <CruCio> sh: Can't open ibm-java2-sdk-5.0-6.0-linux-ppc.tgz
[05:39] <CruCio> juju@localhost:~$
[05:40] <val0> Strangelet yep go ahead
[05:40] <bazhang> vincent_: automatix? uh oh
[05:40] <CruCio> its on my desktop
[05:40] <vincent_> :o
[05:40] <vincent_> is that the problem??
[05:40] <ian__> hehe
[05:40] <CruCio> i dunno
[05:40] <CruCio> tar worked
[05:40] <CruCio> but
[05:40] <Strangelet> val0: okay, thank you. And what about the media-filled partition? what format?
[05:40] <CruCio> why not this one ?
[05:41] <ian__> yeah that looks suspicious
[05:41] <bazhang> vincent_: world of trouble with automatix
[05:41] <vincent_> ohh thank god.
[05:41] <vincent_> should i just delete the line from the sources.list?
[05:41] <ian__> whats automatrix? Never heard of that one
[05:41] <wilson> vincent_: you are better off using an australian mirror, for speed
[05:41] <Tm_T> ian__: nothing to look at
[05:41] <bazhang> http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html vincent_ read that
[05:41] <ian__> oh ok
[05:42] <vincent_> i was a bit worried about reliability though wilson, is it good to use?
[05:43] <CruCio> well
[05:43] <CruCio> this suck
[05:43] <CruCio> :(
[05:43] <CruCio> am out
[05:43] <vincent_> crucio
[05:43] <vincent_> there should be a help thing or something.. try to find the untarred version
[05:44] <vincent_> bazhang: that is a long list of problems :\
[05:44] <val0> so does any1 know if there is a way to see the packages that are installed by the date of the installation?
[05:45] <bazhang> vincent_: sure is; and all the reason to avoid ever using automatix--almost guaranteed to bork your system
[05:45] <vincent_> kk, i just took it out of sources and the repository
[05:45] <ian__> wow well this is great I've learned something new
[05:45] <ian__> let us know if it works!
[05:45] <vincent_> but now, it just hangs on 0% (waiting for headers)
[05:46] <ian__> dang
[05:46] <bazhang> vincent_: that will not fix the damage that has been already done if you have installed anything from there
[05:47] <vincent_> bazhang: i dont think i have, i cant think of anything i have installed.. i know i looked at it, coz i was having a lot of problems with amarok and everyone just had auto as a solution
[05:48] <bazhang> vincent_: you 100 percent sure on that?
[05:48] <sigma_1234> is there a kde alternative to skype?
[05:48] <vincent_> 100% sure of what?
[05:48] <vincent_> oh, not having installed anything?
[05:48] <vincent_> no.. not 100%..
[05:49] <bazhang> right; from automatix
[05:49] <vincent_> xmms-1.2.11.. does that sound anything like automatix?
[05:49] <dhq_> http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/84
[05:49] <bazhang> any problems you have from now on may be caused from that source--this a recent install vincent_?
[05:50] <vincent_> it is
[05:50] <vincent_> but ive only had kubuntu for 4 days
[05:50] <dehspehl> bazhang: vincent_: I'm actually working on a distro to help fix the problem of "greedy" package managers
[05:50] <bazhang> dehspehl: what name?
[05:50] <ian__> ohhh cool, got a website we can track progress on/
[05:51] <vincent_> dehspehl: sounds brilliant
[05:51] <dhq_> dehspehl: http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/84  can you help mhttp://pastebin.dylanhq.com/84e out
[05:52] <bazhang> vincent_: may as well reinstall then--every helper in the future on discovering you used automatix will be like: "what!?" and tell you it is not supported
[05:52] <vincent_> reinstall kubuntu?
[05:52] <ian__> I wsa wondering at which point reinstalling was reccomended....
[05:52] <bazhang> your call vincent_ but that is what *I* would do
[05:52] <vincent_> ive rooted this version i think, lol
[05:52] <ian__> *in refference to faked up repos
[05:53] <vincent_> ive installed packages from the debian database, but thats a bloody joke, every one ive tried to do needs other ones to work
[05:53] <vincent_> so ive ended up with all these packages that dont work
[05:53] <reverend_joshua> the installer on kubuntu keeps dying
[05:53] <bazhang> vincent_: kubuntu/ubuntu has everything you need without the automatixes etc, best to keep it in house if you know what I mean
[05:53] <Strangelet> heehee, woww
[05:53] <vincent_> i get you
[05:53] <vincent_> so format time, bazhang?
[05:54] <dehspehl> ian__: haven't yet got much done, because of the tech predicament I'm on - waiting for my desktop. I just thought the idea up when I realized the pain I went through installing chain-deps from source
[05:54] <bazhang> vincent_:  the support for kubuntu/ubuntu is unmatched in linux and if you do what is recommended you will reap the benefits of that support :}
[05:54] <vincent_> mm, thats why i picked it :D
[05:54] <vincent_> a guy at work suggested gentoo
[05:55] <vincent_> but the ubuntu community sounded nicer ;)
[05:55] <ian__> dehspehl: I see, thats pretty sweet though! I'll keep an eye out.
[05:55] <bazhang> vincent_: google and the ubuntuforums and sometimes coming here will almost always fix your issues
[05:55] <vincent_> mm
[05:55] <sub[t]rnl> just tuned in, what happened to vincent_?
[05:55] <sub[t]rnl> ballpark
[05:55] <ian__> his repositoris got screwed up from automatix
[05:56] <vincent_> lol sub[t]rnl, dont get me started ;)
[05:56] <sub[t]rnl> automatix.. eep
[05:56] <vincent_> its all to do with my packages i think
[05:56] <ian__> lol
[05:56] <vincent_> lol
[05:56] <dehspehl> ian__: It will be debian based, or something else if good Union FS support is hard to come by
[05:56] <vincent_> oh wait, one more think
[05:56] <vincent_> thing*
[05:56] <vincent_> whenever i try to apt-get install filename, it says E; filename cannot be found
[05:56] <vincent_> is that normal on kubuntu?
[05:57] <vincent_> or is that more repository garbage?
[05:57] <sub[t]rnl> if <filename> isn't in one of the repos, yeah its normal
[05:57] <ian__> dehspehl: well thats good because I went back and forth between debian and redhat and man, deb kicks butt, BTW the red text I'm guessing means you're just sending that to me...how do you do that?
[05:57] <Strangelet> ian__: you type the persons name in front like you are doing
[05:57] <dehspehl> ian__: no, it's just prefixed name. not registered so I can't /msg
[05:57] <reverend_joshua> what file system does my install partition need to be for kubuntu?
[05:57] <vincent_> all the faqs are telling me to do it though.. for example, i need libxine-specialcodecs or something for amarok, but it isnt there
[05:58] <Strangelet> ian__: it's fine, you are doing it correctly. :)
[05:58] <ian__> sweet thanks
[05:58] <sub[t]rnl> libxine-extracodecs?
[05:58] <vincent_> yeh thats the one
[05:58] <Strangelet> no probs
[05:59] <sub[t]rnl> libxine1-ffmpeg has replaced that
[05:59] <ian__> WEll guys it's late here so i'm off...vincent lots of luck to you just remembmer, "desktop cube" makes it all worth it:-p
[05:59] <Jucato> vincent_: if you're on Gutsy, libxine-extracodecs no longer exists. use the one that sub[t]rnl gave you
[05:59] <vincent_> lol desktop cube?
[05:59] <ian__> oh man, havn;t heard of it?
[05:59] <vincent_> neg?
[06:00] <vincent_> just tried that sub[t]rnl, it says i have no installation candidate
[06:00] <reverend_joshua> what file system does my install partition need to be for kubuntu?
[06:00] <vincent_> what is it ian, im all intrigued ;D
[06:00] <dehspehl> ian__: basically if all the linux distros/livecds aren't too disparate as far as - union filesystem, sys v init/upstart/launchd, and etc, you could just pop in any image and switch base distros instantly
[06:00] <vincent_> kubuntu should do it itself shouldnt it reverend_joshua?
[06:00] <reverend_joshua> it doesn't seem to be
[06:00] <ian__> when you get your graphics card going, install compiz... you can enable a "3d desktop cube" that you can twirl around , amazing
[06:01] <sub[t]rnl> reverend_joshua➜ ext3 is a good one
[06:01] <vincent_> bah ian__! i have cubes i need to rotate in real life ;)
[06:01]  * vincent_ picks up dice.
[06:01]  * vincent_ gets bored.. and then downloads desktop cube!
[06:01] <ian__> dehspehl: I seee
[06:01] <vincent_> sub[t]rnl: , do you know what my install candidate is referring to?
[06:02] <sub[t]rnl> what package are you installing again?
[06:02] <vincent_> libxine1-ffmpeg
[06:02] <ian__> dehspehl: honestly I don't know much about linux file systems... I'm quite the n00b :-p
[06:03] <ForgeAus> ian what do you need to know? and what file systems did you know before?
[06:04] <ian__> Oh, dehspehl was just talking about a distro he was working on... I mainly worked just with ntfs...barely with that! in fact I'm really mainly into the hardware ;)
[06:04] <sub[t]rnl> vincent_➜ not sure why it isn't working, are you using gutsy?
[06:04] <thomas_newbie__> i installed php5 but I can't get PHP files to execute in browser with my APACHe server
[06:05] <vincent_> sub[t]rnl: i am, yeah, 7.10 yeh?
[06:05] <ForgeAus> well for Linux its generally ext3
[06:05]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[06:05] <ForgeAus> especially for kubuntu :)
[06:05] <ian__> So I noticed... is there a way to read the ext3 FS from windows? or is NTFS incapable of it?
[06:06] <ForgeAus> some Linux's use other types like riser, xfs and stuff...
[06:06] <ian__> *takes notes for future research
[06:06] <vincent_> its saying it is missing or has been obsoleted.. is there a way to manually download it?
[06:06] <ForgeAus> yes there is a way but its not NTFS that does it
[06:06] <sub[t]rnl> !info libxine1-ffmpeg
[06:06] <ubotu> libxine1-ffmpeg (source: xine-lib): mpeg related plugins for libxine1. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 435 kB, installed size 908 kB
[06:06] <ian__> ahh I see
[06:06] <ForgeAus> windows has such a thing as an installable file system driver called EXT2IFS
[06:07] <ian__> installable?
[06:07] <ForgeAus> which allows you to use your EXT3 disk as if it were a native windows drive
[06:07] <ian__> ohhhh I see!
[06:07] <ForgeAus> yes installable, its just a program (software driver actually)
[06:07] <ian__> wow thats cool
[06:07] <ian__> never heard of that
[06:07] <ForgeAus> the thing is ian I don't recommend doing lots to it under windows... tread lightly...
[06:07] <ForgeAus> its one of them
[06:07] <ForgeAus> !worksforme
[06:07] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[06:07] <ForgeAus> kinda things
[06:08] <ian__> ahhh yeah...
[06:08] <ForgeAus> but it will certainly give you access to read (and write) files to your kubuntu partition
[06:08] <ian__> For sure... might be good to have for "just in case" purposes...
[06:08] <ForgeAus> you just assign it a drive letter and from there it pretty much works as just another hard disk
[06:09] <ian__> I'll research it anyways, I appreciate the insight (whole reason im her ein irc is to learn so this is good)
[06:09] <ian__> ok
[06:09] <ForgeAus> (note, programs from there are unlikely to work in windows and text files have some differences in "formatting"...
[06:09] <vincent_> sub[t]rnl: just to clarify : sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[06:09] <ian__> I see... makes sence to me
[06:09] <vincent_> thats exactly what im putting in?
[06:13] <ian__> well its late and I've got an early morning so night all!
[06:14] <vincent_> mm im off too, thanks for everyones help, i might just format this thing ;)
[06:15] <bazhang> bye vincent_ good luck :}
[06:15] <vincent_> i have a feeling im going to need it :)
[06:17] <bazhang> nah youll be back here in no time oh..wait
[06:32] <seba_> hellou
[06:39] <CruCio> Indygunfreak ?
[07:11] <se7en> Dr_willis: you wrote yesterday that you would test mint ... did you and how do you like it?
[07:17] <jussi01> hmmm, does anyone know how to get clickable links in irssi? or if its even possible?
[07:17] <CruCio> How am i suppose to know what mt architecture is ?
[07:17] <CruCio> my*
[07:18] <jussi01> CruCio: whats you pc specs?
[07:18] <Firefishe> well, you're using either Intel, AMD, or what-have-you
[07:18] <Firefishe> IBM-compatible, plus the processor type
[07:19] <Firefishe> or mac, etc.
[07:21] <ardchoille> jussi01: What I did was setup Klipper (clipboard tool, icon in the tray), then hilight a url in irssi, right click the hilight and choose "Copy", if you setup klipper correctly, the klipper popup will engage asking you what you want to do with the url.. one of the default choices is "Open with konqueror" but you can add Actions in klipper's config
[07:22] <ardchoille> jussi01: That's the closest I've been able to get to "clickable url's"
[07:26] <jussi01> ardchoille: ahh, k. thanks
[07:27] <Richard_Balls> join #ubuntu
[07:30] <ardchoille> jussi01: yw
[07:30] <ardchoille> jussi01: Actually, klipper will also kick in when you hilight a url from any app
[07:30] <ardchoille> s/hilight/copy/
[07:33] <unix_infidel> anyone know how to search geotags in flickr?
[07:34] <blizzzek> hi
[07:34] <Richard_Balls> I messed around with xorg.conf and now when I start X I get a blank screen.  How can I restore it from recovery mode?
[07:35] <CruCio> anybody got java to work on ps3 ?
[07:35] <jussi01> Richard_Balls: Could you please change to a more appropriate nick. Thanks.
[07:35] <Richard_Balls> this is my name..
[07:36] <reverend_joshua> when i try to open adept i get a dialog box that says "su returns with an error"
[07:36] <reverend_joshua> have i already broken something?
[07:42] <midi3d> I keep getting close to 100% processor usage when running amarok. After closing amarokapp remains running, still near 100% usage
[07:42] <jussi01> Richard_Balls: Please change it as its not suitable for this channel. (Regardless)
[07:43] <jussi01> reverend_joshua: kde3 or kde4?
[07:43] <reverend_joshua> kde3
[07:44] <reverend_joshua> wait
[07:44] <reverend_joshua> i was thinking of something else
[07:44] <reverend_joshua> i'm using ubuntu 6.06, but i don't know if it's kde3 or kde4
[07:44] <jussi01> reverend_joshua: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:44] <reverend_joshua> er
[07:44] <reverend_joshua> kubuntu
[07:45] <jussi01> :)
[07:45] <reverend_joshua> wow, this stuff is already breaking my brain
[07:45] <reverend_joshua> it's late, too
[07:45] <jussi01> reverend_joshua: go sleep on it. much better in the morning, also, not a huge amount of helpers around atm.
[07:46] <reverend_joshua> aight
[07:46] <reverend_joshua> thanks
[07:49] <midi3d> sorry, I'm new to irc. Is my question poorly formed?
[07:52] <jussi01> !night | midi3d
[07:52] <ubotu> midi3d: It's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds.  This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question.  Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake.  This is particularly true in the quieter channels.
[07:53] <midi3d> thanks. will try the forums perhaps or again tomorrow.
[07:53] <jussi01> midi3d: your question is fine, just I dont know the answer, and it seems no one else who is here does either
[07:53] <TheWhiteRook> is there a way to get compiz working in KDE 3.5 if, when I type "compiz --replace" in the Konsole, it tells me it can't find xgl, no whitelist driver found, and no /usr/bin/metacity found
[07:53] <TheWhiteRook> and then exits?
[07:54] <Jucato> !compiz
[07:54] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[07:54] <TheWhiteRook> thanx
[07:54] <se7en_> !grub
[07:54] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:57] <midi3d> where can I find irc documentation? More specifically, what are the "!program" commands?
[07:57] <jussi01> !bot
[07:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:57] <jussi01> midi3d: ^
[07:57] <midi3d> jussi01: thanks!
[08:01] <TheWhiteRook> mmm... compiz still doesn't work after following the instructions.
[08:01] <TheWhiteRook> still gives me the same thing
[08:06] <jussi01> TheWhiteRook: whats you gfx hardware? it may be that you have an incopatible card
[08:12] <appelza> how would i mount / extract this image: 20080110.img: x86 boot sector, LInux i386 boot LOader, extended partition table (last)\011
[08:12]  * ForgeAus shudders
[08:13] <ForgeAus> well I guess you could always rawrite it, as long as nothing on the space your rawriting it to! lol
[08:15] <midi3d> !botsnack
[08:15] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:19] <Zombocom> guys
[08:19] <Zombocom> ctrl+alt+backspace does nothing
[08:19] <Zombocom> what do I do
[08:19] <jussi01> !botabuse > midi3d
[08:19] <jussi01> Zombocom: use logout?
[08:19] <Zombocom> lol
[08:20] <Zombocom> I was trying to see how many people would logout trying to see what it does
[08:20] <Zombocom> I was messing around
[08:20] <Zombocom> kick me if you like it's the only time I'll do it here
[08:20] <jussi01> Zombocom: please dont
[08:20] <joenet> how can i connect to hotspot named "PGSD" using my Kubuntu 7.10
[08:20] <jussi01> !ettiquette
[08:20] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !English - and most importantly, use common sense...
[08:20] <Zombocom> !CoC
[08:20] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[08:21] <joenet> can some1 help me?
[08:21] <jussi01> joenet: right click on the netwoerk thing in the taskbar, it should be listed
[08:21] <jussi01> !patience < joenet
[08:22] <jussi01> !patience | joenet
[08:22] <ubotu> joenet: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:23] <joenet> if using iwconfig?
[08:27] <soroush> i use ubuntu now and i want to have kde installed on it too. which package should i install?
[08:29] <ForgeAus> soroush
[08:29] <ForgeAus> go into synaptic and add the kubuntu-desktop package
[08:29] <ForgeAus> and voila you have kubuntu :)
[08:29] <soroush> thanks, forgeAus
[08:29] <ForgeAus> (theres a list of packages you can remove if you don't want the gnome stuff too... )
[08:30] <ForgeAus> theres a similar story for xubuntu, you can use the xubuntu-desktop package
[08:30] <ForgeAus> note: Kubuntu uses Adept instead of Synaptic
[08:31] <ForgeAus> (although synaptic will still work if you keep it)
[08:32] <soroush> ForgeAus, thanks a lot. I'm instaling it
[08:33] <runlevelten> !adeptfix
[08:33] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[08:34] <ForgeAus> oh I fixed my adept long ago its now my network that went down :)
[08:34] <ForgeAus> (if only I were only kidding)
[08:37] <kristjan_> with what key do I quit "ping" in konsole?
[08:38] <jussi01> kristjan_: ctrl + c
[08:39] <kristjan_> jussi01: nice, what are most often used commands to test internet connection? tracepath, ping, ... ?
[08:39] <Tm_T> ping I suppose
[08:40] <kristjan_> what is the command line equivalent of me clicking on knetworkmanager "wired/wireless" connection?
[08:40] <alesan> any idea how do I clean print heads in my hp printer? In the printer setup thing, it seems only epson printers are supported.
[08:40] <kristjan_> ifconifg renew?
[08:41] <alesan> and: how do I enable the kprinter thing in firefox? otherwise it shows me a very poor dialog for printing, with no options etc
[08:52] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[08:56] <jfr> I have big problems when trying to install Bugzilla on Kubuntu, anyone care to take a look at my error message? :-)
[08:58] <posingaspopular> !paste | jfr
[08:58] <ubotu> jfr: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:59] <jfr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52997/
[08:59] <jfr> thanks, posingaspopular
[09:02] <vincent_> Hello all!
[09:02] <jfr> No ubuntu gurus that would like to help me with that? :-(
[09:11] <vincent_> hello, anyone?
[09:11] <emilsedgh> !ask | vincent_
[09:11] <ubotu> vincent_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:15] <vincent_>  Well, i am running kubuntu.. but i run apt get, to try to update the package lists, it hangs when it tries to connect to archive.ubuntu.. my internet is only 256k, and im in australia, so is it possible to either 1) find a better connection, or 2) download everything i need without using apt-gets in built downloader?
[09:19] <wilson> is it au.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[09:19] <wilson> if it's not change it to that
[09:20] <wilson> or a good mirror i use is ftp.netspace.net.au
[09:20] <wilson> eg "deb http://ftp.netspace.net.au/pub/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted"
[09:22] <vincent_> wilson; you wont believe what happened.
[09:22] <bogdan> vrun roman pe aici ?
[09:22] <wilson> you wiped sources.list ?
[09:23] <vincent_> i changed sources.list, i removed the http:// from http://archive.. it corrupted it, then i re-opened and then added the http:// again, and now its all dandy.
[09:23] <vincent_> got bless linux
[09:23] <vincent_> thats been giving me problems for 3 days!
[09:23] <vincent_> not even a format fixed it, must be a problem with the cd
[09:24] <vincent_> thanks for the mirrors though wilson
[09:26] <corinth> I have a mouse with forward/backward browser buttons. Is there a gui to configure them in Kubuntu?
[09:26] <ppibburr> i made a livecd from a feisty debootstrap for i386 on a amd64 laptop, worked, ran it on a desktop and it fried. that normal?
[09:29] <Lynoure> ppibburr: fried?
[09:30] <Lynoure> ppibburr: no, it is not expected to cause hardware damage of any sort, though there is probably a disclaimer about that...
[09:31] <ppibburr> yes the desktop went dead and will not powerp
[09:32] <ppibburr> sounded like the desktop was being over worked, why i am not exactly sure
[09:34] <jfr> Can someone please look at my error when installing bugzilla on kubuntu? It looks like a pretty common error, but I have no idea on how to solve it. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52997/
[09:43] <val0> Is the Nvidia driver offered on the nvidia website the best choice to go with? Nvidia 7600
[09:43] <Tm_T> val0: repositories
[09:43] <Tm_T> !nvidia | val0
[09:43] <ubotu> val0: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:44] <val0> Tm_T thanks a lot!
[09:46] <Lynoure> ppibburr: Even overworked CPUs normally cause just a shutdown, not deadness, so it really should not happen without some flaw in the hardware to start with
[09:48] <lazybunz> does anyone have this problem where keyboard suddenly stops working?
[09:48] <lazybunz> I can't seem to figure out what's causing it
[09:49] <whyhankee> lazybunz: only happens to me when i'm using Amarok on/from NFS
[10:03] <vincent_> Hey, anyone know an alternative to kopete? somehting that will let me use a msn messenger alternative?
[10:04] <posingaspopular> vincent_: pidgin
[10:04] <posingaspopular> !pidgin
[10:04] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[10:04] <vincent_> thanks posingaspopular
[10:04] <posingaspopular> np
[10:04] <vincent_> brilliant :d
[10:08] <vincent_> sorry posingaspopular, is   pidgin-2.3.1.tar.bz2.asc   the one im after?
[10:08] <vincent_> its my first day..
[10:09] <vincent_> ahh nah i see it
[10:11] <Zero_Point> Hello.
[10:14] <Creative2> :D
[10:14] <Zero_Point> I'm having a problem connecting to wireless networks in Gutsy (7.10)
[10:15] <Creative2> kind of wifi ?
[10:16] <Creative2> Zero_Point: ?
[10:16] <val0> !libc
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <Zero_Point> Sorry, back.
[10:16] <Zero_Point> And could you be more specific?
[10:16] <Zero_Point> What do you mean by "kind of wifi"?
[10:17] <Creative2> Zero_Point: what kind of wifi have you ? usb pci ?
[10:18] <Creative2> !paste
[10:18] <Creative2> lol
[10:18] <Zero_Point> It's a Linksys WUSB54GC. I've already got the drivers installed and the device appears to be functional, but it can't connect to the router.
[10:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:18] <Creative2> Zero_Point: :D like mine
[10:18] <Zero_Point> It's set to WPA like it should be, and I've entered the pass-phrase, but it just refuses to connect.
[10:19] <Creative2> Zero_Point: have you installed it ? with ndiswrapper ?
[10:19] <Zero_Point> Pretty much, yeah. Some special script someone whipped up that made it very painless.
[10:20] <Creative2> Zero_Point: ok plz write me if you can see access point with this command in a terminal
[10:20] <Creative2> Zero_Point: iwlist NAMEWIFI scan
[10:20] <Creative2> example iwlist wlan0 scan
[10:21] <Zero_Point> Yep.
[10:21] <Zero_Point> I can see it in Wireless Assistant too.
[10:21] <Zero_Point> It just will not connect to it.
[10:21] <Creative2> well done
[10:21] <Creative2> ok perfect
[10:21] <Creative2> it's only intefaces file issue
[10:21] <Creative2> Zero_Point: just a second
[10:23] <val0> Creative2 , Zero_Point : don't mean to interfere but could it be that your AP doesn't allow certain types of connections? MAC address for example?
[10:24] <Zero_Point> Why wouldn't it?
[10:24] <Creative2> val0: no... it's only a question of  /etc/network/interfaces
[10:24] <Creative2> ...
[10:25] <val0> Zero_Point because someone might have configured it to allow only certain known MAC addresses
[10:25] <val0> Creative2 oh ok
[10:25] <Zero_Point> The router?
[10:25] <Zero_Point> Doubtful.
[10:25] <val0> Zero_Point just covering all the bases
[10:25] <Zero_Point> We've reset it recently and gotten all the other machines in this house to connect just fine.
[10:25] <anil> Hi
[10:25] <anil> How to change my login screen ?
[10:26] <Creative2> Zero_Point: the problem is thsi : before ensure harddrive works ..then set configuration. yoiu have only a configuration problem
[10:26] <anil> i am using kubuntu
[10:26] <Zero_Point> And how would I go about changing that?
[10:26] <Creative2> !wifi
[10:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:27] <Creative2> Zero_Point: you must set your wpa, it would be bettter wep..anyway
[10:27] <val0> Zero_Point so you can see your AP right? and you do everything correct but it doesn't asign you an IP?
[10:27] <Creative2> in intefaces file
[10:27] <anil> Hi ... could you please help to change my login screen ...
[10:27] <Zero_Point> It doesn't connect, period.
[10:27] <Creative2> Zero_Point: paste your interfaces file plz , use paste bin
[10:27] <Creative2> !paste
[10:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:27] <Zero_Point> Pasting would be rather hard.
[10:28] <val0> Creative2 good idea
[10:28] <Zero_Point> I'm using my Vista laptop ATM, my Linux machine is seperate and, obviously, having connection issues.
[10:28] <sebastian^> vista laptop ... tz
[10:28] <Creative2> Zero_Point: use something to paste , a cd usb drive something
[10:29] <val0> Zero_Point ok when you say it doesn't connect how you know that you not connected? you can't reach a web page? you get a bad IP? of you get a message that you can't connect?
[10:29] <borncrazy> hi, i really need sme help. yesterday i was editing the fonts.conf file and this is how everything ended up: http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fontsht7.png i backed up the old fonts.conf file but as you see it's kind of impossible to read anything on my dekstop
[10:29] <Zero_Point> val0, the answer is "yes".
[10:30] <val0> Zero_Point to which one of the two questions?
[10:31] <Zero_Point> Yes to all of them.
[10:31] <Creative2> Zero_Point: open damned file /etc/network/intefaces
[10:31] <Creative2> xD
[10:31] <val0> Zero_Point what IP do you get? 127.0.0.0 or 169.x.x.x.? or what?
[10:31] <sebastian^> borncrazy: just c&p the name of the files and copy the old one with the console
[10:32] <val0> Creative2 you sound as frustrated as he is
[10:32] <sebastian^> borncrazy: or just use the rescue system
[10:32] <Creative2> val0: ..it's 10 minutes i repeat the same thing...
[10:33] <val0> Creative2 i feel for you... but i think a little TLC will solve everything
[10:33] <val0> Zero_Point so what IP do you have?
[10:33] <Creative2> val0: i leave to you the issue
[10:34] <val0> Zero_Point do you get your IP asigned by DHCP or static?
[10:34] <val0> Creative2 lol thanks, it's only 2:34 am where i am!
[10:34] <Zero_Point> DHCP
[10:34] <Zero_Point> And Creative2, sorry, I'm working on it.
[10:34] <val0> Zero_Point ok so what IP does it give you?
[10:34] <Creative2> val0: xD
[10:35] <Zero_Point> Last time NetworkManager actually loaded it was a 69.something adress.
[10:35] <Zero_Point> The router assigns 192.168.1.100+
[10:36] <val0> Zero_Point ok so you get a bad ip from your AP correct? you should get 192.168.1.100+ but you get 69.x.x.x, right?
[10:36] <Zero_Point> That's what Network manager reported when it actually worked.
[10:36] <Zero_Point> Which it doesn't now, it doesn't do anything when I try to open it.
[10:37] <val0> Zero_Point so when you can't open at all NM?
[10:37] <val0> Zero_Point double/single click on it and nothing happens?
[10:37] <Zero_Point> Nothing.
[10:37] <Zero_Point> At all.
[10:37] <val0> Zero_Point ok...
[10:38] <borncrazy> sebastian^: i can't copy it because i don't remember where i saved it
[10:38] <Zero_Point> It's nice knowing how awesome Linux is supposed to be considering so far I've been doing nothing more than holding it's damned hand this whole time. -_-
[10:38] <borncrazy> sebastian^: how do i use rescue system?
[10:39] <val0> Zero_Point yep and we are holding your hand while you are refusing to cooperate and help us help you :D so please be patient at least as much as we are towards you!
[10:39] <Zero_Point> I'm being very patient with you, it's Linux that's driving me nuts.
[10:40] <Zero_Point> And I'm cooperating to the best of my ability, it'd obviously be much easier if I could connect with my Linux machine, at which point this conversation would've never happened.
[10:40] <Zero_Point> And copy-pasting the file Creative requested left it all ass-tarded, so I'll just type it in manually.
[10:40] <thomas__> Zero_Point: having problems assigning right ip to your network card?
[10:40] <Zero_Point> auto lo
[10:40] <Zero_Point> No, wireless adapater's not connecting to the router.
[10:40] <Zero_Point> *adapter
[10:40] <Zero_Point> Even though it can see it.
[10:41] <Zero_Point> ANYWAY.
[10:41] <thomas__> which wireless software are you useing?
[10:41] <val0> thomas__ he does't get an ip or gets in incorrect ip form the router
[10:41] <thomas__> Zero_Point: tried installing wicd ?
[10:41] <Zero_Point> What is that?
[10:41] <val0> thomas__ he just need to manual assign the ip address etc... and maybe see if that works... worked for me in the past
[10:41] <thomas__> Zero_Point: worked like a charm for me, as standard kde network tools worked like shit for me
[10:42] <val0> !wicd | Zero_Point
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wicd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <Zero_Point> The script the guy included installed somethng called Wireless Assistant, which is less than helpful.
[10:42] <Zero_Point> It's only assisted in helping me pull my hair out. >:/
[10:42] <thomas__> Zero_Point: open an text editor as root
[10:42] <thomas__> open /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:42] <thomas__> add this
[10:42] <thomas__> #WICD
[10:42] <thomas__> deb http://wicd.longren.org feisty extras
[10:43] <thomas__> save and clode
[10:43] <thomas__> close
[10:43] <thomas__> sudo apt-get update
[10:43] <thomas__> sudo apt-get install wicd
[10:43] <thomas__> then configure wlan with wicd
[10:44] <ForgeAus> what else goes in etc/apt?
[10:44] <ForgeAus> thats one bit I gotta fix
[10:44] <thomas__> thomas@linuxbook:~$ ls /etc/apt/
[10:44] <thomas__> apt.conf.d     sources.list.d            trustdb.gpg
[10:44] <thomas__> secring.gpg    sources.list.default      trusted.gpg
[10:44] <thomas__> sources.list   sources.list.distUpgrade  trusted.gpg~
[10:44] <thomas__> sources.list~  sources.list.save
[10:44] <thomas__> thomas@linuxbook:~$
[10:44] <ForgeAus> ok
[10:45] <thomas__> Zero_Point: installing wicd going ok ?
[10:45] <ForgeAus> so mostly apt.conf, gpg's and sources.list (and backups/variants)
[10:45] <thomas__> ForgeAus: jep
[10:45] <ForgeAus> wish I could rebuild my /etc dir
[10:45] <Zero_Point> Still working on it.
[10:45] <thomas__> ForgeAus: why, whats the problem?
[10:45] <ForgeAus> as it is I"ve been guessing where most of the stuff I lost+found goes
[10:45] <Zero_Point> I'm pretty new to Linux so I'm still figuring out how to do all this crap as root, but I'm working on it now.
[10:46] <ForgeAus> I somehow managed to crash and rebooted with /etc as a file instead of a directory
[10:46] <thomas__> Zero_Point: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:46] <ForgeAus> some smart cookie told me to fsck
[10:46] <wilson> ForgeAus: ouch
[10:46] <thomas__> ForgeAus: hmm, how in hell did you do that?
[10:47] <ForgeAus> and it recovered lotsa stuff, only that its all in lost+found and all the files there I don't recognise because they're names are all numbers
[10:47] <ForgeAus> thomas if I knew I would have avoided doing it in the first place
[10:47] <wilson> i'd backup what i can and start again ForgeAus
[10:47] <Zero_Point> I said I figured it out, and I'm on Gutsy, should I change Feisty to match that?
[10:47] <borncrazy> Sorry for asking again but i need to write some importnant  things and with these fonts i can't write a sh*t.
[10:47] <borncrazy> http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fontsht7.png
[10:47] <thomas__> Zero_Point: no, works fine
[10:47] <ForgeAus> yes well backup is something I shuld have done beforehand, I'm naughty
[10:47] <borncrazy> this is how my fonts looks after i edited the fonts.conf :/
[10:47] <ForgeAus> yet more wasted HDD space :(
[10:48] <thomas__> borncrazy: lol
[10:49] <Zero_Point> It would appear that connecting to the internet is required for your instructions to work, thomas.
[10:49] <Zero_Point> In case you haven't heard, I can't do that on my Linux machine.
[10:49] <thomas__> Zero_Point: try with wired network?
[10:49] <wilson> is this wireless you're trying to get working or just normal ethernet Zero_Point
[10:49] <Zero_Point> Can't reach the router from where I am.
[10:49] <Zero_Point> Wireless.
[10:49] <thomas__> or manually download packages in windows, transfer them to linux machine
[10:49] <Zero_Point> Ethernet works fine.
[10:50] <Zero_Point> I knew this thumbdrive would come in handy.
[10:50] <wilson> have you got the driver going ok , is this a laptop ?
[10:50] <Zero_Point> Almost too handy. :/
[10:50] <borncrazy> thomas__:
[10:50] <Zero_Point> It's a desktop, and yes, the driver is working as far as I can tell. It sees the router, it tries to connect, but the connection fails.
[10:51] <thomas__> Zero_Point:
[10:51] <thomas__> http://wicd.longren.org/pool/gutsy/extras/wicd_1.3.1-all.deb
[10:51] <ForgeAus> fun video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liKV4Ij8LtU&eurl=http://www.hardocp.com/index.html (ok well I guess you could call it spamming, not that annoyance was my motive, just some humour...)
[10:51] <borncrazy> http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=font2sjh3.png thomas__ look what happens when i try to runt gedit
[10:51] <thomas__> Zero_Point: on the other hand do try the gutsy package
[10:51] <thomas__> Zero_Point: didn't know they already had one
[10:52] <mikey> hi
[10:52] <mikey> is there any way to test my wireless card on kubuntu-kde4?
[10:52] <mikey> the livecd, i mean
[10:53] <thomas__> borncrazy: I would suggest restoring your fonts.conf file
[10:53] <thomas__> Zero_Point: do you know how to manually install a .deb file?
[10:53] <borncrazy> thomas__: how?
[10:54] <Zero_Point> AGAIN with the connection attempts!
[10:54] <Zero_Point> Friggen-A.
[10:54] <ForgeAus> borcrazy the font its trying to use has too many un-defined letters, thats why they're all boxes
[10:54] <thomas__> Zero_Point: ?
[10:54] <borncrazy> can anyone pastebin a valid fonts.conf please?
[10:54] <Zero_Point> Tried installing the package, it's trying to connect.
[10:54] <thomas__> go to the url in windows
[10:54] <borncrazy> ForgeAus: ah. How do i define them then?
[10:54] <thomas__> download the package
[10:54] <Zero_Point> I.
[10:55] <Zero_Point> Did.
[10:55] <wilson> what kind of network is it ? WPA ?
[10:55] <borncrazy> thomas__: i was there, nothing helpful
[10:55] <Zero_Point> WPA, yes.
[10:55] <ForgeAus> borncrazy you don't, you set it to choose a different font that has defined letters, preferably ones you can read :)
[10:55] <Zero_Point> And before you get onto me about how crappy it is, it isn't even my router.
[10:55] <thomas__> Zero_Point: and you transfered it to the linux machine?
[10:55] <Zero_Point> Yes.
[10:55] <thomas__> ok then
[10:55] <ForgeAus> of course I'm sure theres some font creation software but you shouldn't need that
[10:55] <thomas__> cd /path/to/dir
[10:56] <thomas__> sudo dpkg -i wicd_1.3.1-all.deb
[10:56] <borncrazy> thomas__: me?
[10:56] <borncrazy> i feel lost in the linux djungle
[10:56] <ForgeAus> thats something else I need to fix, network
[10:56] <ForgeAus> if I get that up all I need is apt to reinstall packages that don't work
[10:56] <thomas__> borncrazy: no, its for Zero_Point
[10:56] <borncrazy> oh okay
[10:57] <ForgeAus> that should fix my /etc issue for me
[10:57] <ForgeAus> ... eventually
[10:57] <thomas__> borncrazy: I don't know anything about fonts
[10:57] <ForgeAus> of course I am using edgy
[10:57] <ForgeAus> so probably LOTS of fixes
[10:57] <borncrazy>  my i should write a topic on ubuntu forum
[10:58] <ForgeAus> !fonts
[10:58] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[10:58] <ForgeAus> I guess thats no help to you
[10:58] <Zero_Point> Conflicting packages.
[10:58] <ForgeAus> instead of installing new ones you want to fix the ones you got
[10:58] <wilson> i dont know alot about wireless unfortunately, have you tried using iwconfig to connect ?
[10:58] <thomas__> Zero_Point: say YES if it want to remove packages
[10:59] <Zero_Point> It doesn't even ask.
[10:59] <Zero_Point> It just stops.
[10:59] <ForgeAus> oh I'm not worried about package conflicts I get them all the time, sofar found ways around each one too.. shomehow
[10:59] <thomas__> give me error msg
[10:59] <borncrazy> ForgeAus: no no, because i totaly removed the old fonts.conf
[10:59] <borncrazy> sorry for my english
[10:59] <ForgeAus> ok borncrazy do you have the live cd?
[10:59] <ForgeAus> there should be a copy of it there
[10:59] <ForgeAus> just boot from it, mount your drive and copy to it?
[10:59] <Zero_Point> wicd conflicts with network manager, netowrk manager is present and installed.
[10:59] <thomas__> borncrazy: where is the fonts.conf file stored on hd?
[11:00] <ForgeAus> you might need to fix some of the paths in it or something
[11:00] <thomas__> Zero_Point: remove network manager
[11:00] <Zero_Point> And I thought Vista's UAC was annoying.
[11:00] <thomas__> and install wicd
[11:00] <borncrazy> thomas__: /etc/fonts/fonts.conf i think
[11:00] <borncrazy> ForgeAus: good idea
[11:00] <ForgeAus> hehe thats ONE idea, not sure it will work
[11:00] <ForgeAus> but it may be worth a shot
[11:01] <ForgeAus> either that or use apt to reinstall the font package only that you can't read which package it is since you can't identify one line from the next unless you know how many chars are in it :)
[11:01] <ForgeAus> (which can be fun)
[11:01] <thomas__> borncrazy: http://www.doggyupload.com/uploads/fonts.conf
[11:01] <borncrazy> lets wait and see :)
[11:01] <ForgeAus> or take thomas' nice contribution :)
[11:01] <wilson> this is complicated but may help http://www.varesano.net/blog/fabio/wpa+psk+linux+intel+centrino+ipw2100
[11:02] <wilson> you can go full manual and just configure wpa supplicant
[11:02] <ForgeAus> sometimes theres more than one way to skin a cat
[11:02] <borncrazy> thomas__: thanks, i'll try and see if it works
[11:02] <thomas__> wilson: wicd has wpa encryption modules
[11:02] <thomas__> so no need for that
[11:03] <thomas__> wilson: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ read first page ;-)
[11:03] <Zero_Point> How does one remove network manager? Apparently I don't have snyaptic installed.
[11:03] <thomas__> lol
[11:03] <thomas__> Zero_Point: sudo apt-get remove pachagename
[11:03] <thomas__> Zero_Point: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[11:04] <bazhang> or use adept_manager
[11:04] <thomas__> bazhang: I say, shell for life ^^
[11:04] <borncrazy> reboot
[11:04] <bazhang> thomas__: well there is that :}
[11:05] <bazhang> no though newcomers may not like it :{
[11:05] <thomas__> bazhang: then they should stay away from linux
[11:05] <thomas__> :p
[11:05] <thomas__> nah, didn't say that
[11:05] <bazhang> haha there are logs on these channels..
[11:05] <Zero_Point> I'm only trying it 'cause Linux nuts wouldnt' stop praising it.
[11:05] <Zero_Point> I thought "Hey, I feel masochistic today, why not?"
[11:05] <Zero_Point> And now, here I am, talking with you fellows.
[11:06] <bazhang> wowzor
[11:06] <Zero_Point> I find the lack of modem support quite disheartening as well.
[11:06] <thomas__> Zero_Point: If you were thinking I will understand linux in about 5 min, think again, you'll need at least a month and a couple of broken installations before you start figuring out how it all works
[11:06] <Zero_Point> I knew that going into it.
[11:07] <Zero_Point> I just didn't expect Linux to be so... "Helpful".
[11:07] <thomas__> Zero_Point: medem supprot is fine, just the wirekess drivers arn't all that
[11:07] <wilson> typically alot of new users seem to have trouble with getting wireless going
[11:07] <Zero_Point> Doesn't support my modem apparantley.
[11:07] <wilson> but its usually because their card/chipset isn't very well supported
[11:07] <borncrazy> didn't work :/
[11:07] <bazhang> especially the breakage, and then you have an 'aha' moment and then things get easier just a bit :}
[11:07] <thomas__> Zero_Point: your modem doesn't need supprot
[11:07] <Zero_Point> I've tried, I've practiced the google-fu, nothin'.
[11:08] <thomas__> anyway I'm off
[11:08] <bazhang> cya
[11:08] <wilson> what kind of modem ? adsl ?
[11:09] <Zero_Point> God-dammit.
[11:09] <Zero_Point> Now it appears I need python-glade2.
[11:09] <Zero_Point> Dial-up.
[11:09] <bazhang> dialup modem
[11:10] <thomas__> Zero_Point: I would strongly suggest getting hold of a wired line to get all the dependencies solved
[11:11] <Zero_Point> If only I could connect by LAN-ing through this laptop, but that also ended in spectacular failure.
[11:12] <thomas__> Zero_Point: try a bridged connection
[11:12] <Zero_Point> The ONE thing I didn't try, thanks.
[11:13] <thomas__> being a little less sarcastic would help you, people would ACCTUALY (woow I got caps to) try to help you
[11:14] <Zero_Point> I know, I was saying that that's literally the one thing I didn't try when I tried connecting these two.
[11:14] <thomas__> lol
[11:14] <thomas__> ok
[11:14] <Zero_Point> God, I hate Vista.
[11:14] <thomas__> lol
[11:14] <thomas__> vista
[11:14] <ForgeAus> me 2
[11:14] <thomas__> man, what do you expect
[11:14] <Zero_Point> With XP, you right-clicked, clicked some more tabs, then "Bridge connections".
[11:15] <Zero_Point> But oh no, not with Vista. Let's name it something else and make it all cryptic, shall we?
[11:15] <ForgeAus> or bury it under so many steps its not funny
[11:15] <Zero_Point> That too.
[11:16] <matthewb> !swe
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <Tm_T> !se | matthewb
[11:16] <ubotu> matthewb: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[11:16] <matthewb> swedish anyone?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> hello all
[11:17] <Tm_T> matthewb: perhaps
[11:17] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: hail! :))
[11:17] <matthewb> need help with wine
[11:17] <Tm_T> !wine | matthewb
[11:17] <ubotu> matthewb: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[11:18] <Tm_T> matthewb: if more needed, just ask :)
[11:18] <Creative2> Zero_Point i hav your same wifi card..xD
[11:18] <Creative2> ups
[11:18] <Creative2> sorry
[11:19] <matthewb> Tm_T: I am new with kubuntu and Im tired in windows
[11:19] <matthewb> :P
[11:19] <Tm_T> matthewb: there's lots of you :)
[11:19] <matthewb> :D
[11:20] <Tm_T> matthewb: just ask what exactly you need to know, by giving explanation :)
[11:21] <Zero_Point> Well, hopefully now that the Linux machine has a connection, I can probably take it from here. Thanks for all the help guys.
[11:21] <matthewb> my adept-manager dosent work when I tried to install synaptic and synaptic doesent starts its giving me errors
[11:22] <matthewb> it krasches all the time
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> matthewb, what messages do you get when it crashes?
[11:24] <matthewb> in adept or in synaptic?
[11:24] <matthewb> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:24] <matthewb> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> matthewb, close all the apps to do with updates etc and run sudo dpkg --configure -a in a console
[11:26] <hasse> hey, anyone know how to disable caps lock for good ?
[11:27] <wilson> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:27] <Zero_Point> Thanks thomas_, it finally connected!
[11:27] <matthewb> ActionParsnip: where can i find the console?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> kde menu -> system
[11:28] <wilson> it's called konsole matthewb
[11:28] <matthewb> :P
[11:28] <wilson> hehe
[11:30] <matthewb> it works :D
[11:30] <matthewb> thnx so mutch
[11:32] <corinth> Is there a package in the kde4 repository that adds more plasmoids?
[11:32] <Tm_T> yes
[11:32] <corinth> What is it?
[11:32] <Tm_T> extragear-plasma or something like that
[11:32] <corinth> Thanks :-)
[11:32] <ForgeAus> wow AndLinux is basically a Kubuntu for Windows
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> matthewb, np dude
[11:33] <ForgeAus> (integrates into desktop even!)
[11:33] <Tm_T> use the search, padawan corinth
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus, how do you mean???
[11:33] <corinth> Psh, I'm a Jedi Master, foo. :-P
[11:33] <Tm_T> corinth: not here
[11:33] <ForgeAus> a virtualizer + kubuntu itself are better of course
[11:33] <corinth> I'm using the pacakage manager atm, just wanted to know if I should bother searching ;-)
[11:33] <ForgeAus> well andlinux has a notification icon that is its kmenu
[11:33] <ForgeAus> (configurable)
[11:34] <ForgeAus> and it runs apps in their own window
[11:34] <ForgeAus> even has explorer shell extensions for stuff like Open in Kate
[11:34] <Slasher`> hey, i just upgraded to KDE4 and its really nice, I like it :D however one question, is there any way to change the font size in xchat cause its gone really small for some reason in KDE4
[11:34] <ForgeAus> it uses CoLinux
[11:35] <tuxick> scolinux
[11:35] <ForgeAus> and runs it as a pretty much complete Ubuntu install
[11:35] <ForgeAus> (the kde vers is 800 mb tho
[11:35] <ForgeAus> (xfce one is minimal)
[11:35] <ForgeAus> only 194mb for that
[11:36] <ForgeAus> 800 mb is huge but I like the cohesion
[11:36] <ForgeAus> its something you don't get with most other linux under windows solutions
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus, so you can run Linux apps under Windows? I just looked at some sites and I dont get it
[11:38] <ForgeAus> Action not exactly
[11:38] <ForgeAus> you run a linux subsystem, all Andlinux (using colinux) does is put that app in a window
[11:38] <ForgeAus> you actually have a fully functional linux system, so its an actual linux app running in linux in a windows window...
[11:39] <ForgeAus> its in german but here is a screenshot showing some of the cohesion: http://www.joachim-gehweiler.de/images/software/andlinux.png
[11:39] <llutz> ForgeAus: but isn't it f*ng slow with X-apps running?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus, why not just run linux then?
[11:39] <ForgeAus> the firefox from andlinux is alomst identical to the windows one
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus, it is identical
[11:40] <ForgeAus> you could if you wanted to use wine to run your windows apps...
[11:40] <ForgeAus> llutz probably I don't know how it does or if it even does X...
[11:40] <ForgeAus> I don't think the apps are unusably slow tho
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus, I dont run windows apps :)
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus, but I get it now
[11:42] <ForgeAus> well I do like many windows apps... this just gives me yet another way of running linux within windows
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus, personally I'd rather run an open operating system and use cedega if i have to run win32 apps
[11:42] <ForgeAus> ouch cedega?... hmmm guess it depends on the app your running...
[11:43] <llutz> for what i'm missing when using XP, i just use gnuwin32
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> none but if i had to i'd use it
[11:48] <corinth> Has anyone tried the tech preview of Amarok 2? Is it any good?
[11:49] <mau> whats the difference between smbfs and cifs? which one should i use?
[11:53] <eagles0513875> hey guys im able to boot onto the live cd but for some reason when it comes to me manually creating partitions my system locks up on me
[11:54] <eagles0513875> AmyRose u have any idea why thats happening to me
[11:54] <eagles0513875> any idea why thats happening guys
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, can we have a pastebin of your fdisk -l
[11:55] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip im on a windows irc client
[11:55] <eagles0513875> i have noticed when im looking at whats booting up the vry first thing i see is bios bug #81 what does that mean
[11:55] <shoaibi> Hi! I wanna ask with the default installation of Kubuntu dont i get two accounts like one for custom, and one as "root" like i get in ubuntu?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, did you leave free s[ace for Linux to install
[11:56] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip i had a recovery partition which i burned to cd which is 8gb
[11:56] <eagles0513875> 8.5gb to be exact
[11:56] <posingaspopular> shoaibi: you get that, but im not sure what your asking
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, is it unpartitioned? this can help sometimes
[11:56] <posingaspopular> you get a user account, and then a root account for super priviledges
[11:57] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip yes it is since i just deleted the partition from windows
[11:57] <posingaspopular> that is a default linux system configuration as far as i know shoaibi
[11:57] <shoaibi> posingaspopular: Listen, i installed kubuntu 7.10, and after the installation, i went to the user management, click the admin mode, and all i see is just my account, no root account, it even let me create an account with the username as root, strange, isn't it?
[11:57] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip could my laptop being a tablet pc have anything to do with it
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> shoaibi, no as Ubuntu doesnt have a root account. You get your admin power using sudo
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, it may need some modules for the hard drive but i doubt it
[11:58] <posingaspopular> yes as ActionParsnip said. you activate the root privilidges by using sudo, it's not a seperate account.
[11:58] <shoaibi> ActionParsnip: with the default installation of Ubuntu, 2 accounts are created, 1 for which you fillin info,a nd second is root
[11:59] <shoaibi> posingaspopular: in ubuntu root is present as a separate account with default installation
[11:59] <shoaibi> posingaspopular: in kubuntu as i see, its not....
[11:59] <eagles0513875> shoaibi i think its hidden some how u have to click on a box to be able to see all accounts on the machine
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> shoaibi, my system only has my account.Ive never seen a root account. If you need admin access use sudo / kdesu
[11:59] <MGalaxy> how to force APPs to use AntiAliasing : SEE http://i27.tinypic.com/2cdzpcx.png
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> shoaibi, sudo for CLI commands (apt-get, cp, mv etc) and kdesu for gui apps (kate etc)
[12:00] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip any idea to why when i come to setup swap and all that manually it locks up on me
[12:00] <shoaibi> ActionParsnip: that i know brother, but just found it strange that it even let me create an account with the username as root...
[12:00] <posingaspopular> oh you're right shoaibi now that i think about it. hmm i wonder why that is.
[12:00] <shoaibi> ActionParsnip: plus from Ubuntu 5.04+ as i remember two accounts exists as soon as the installation completes...
[12:00] <Slasher`> hey, i just upgraded to KDE4 and its really nice, I like it :D however one question, is there any way to change the font size in xchat cause its gone really small for some reason in KDE4
[12:00] <posingaspopular> ive never really considered the question.
[12:01] <posingaspopular> Slasher`: that should be in your xchat configuration
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, try using default install (?)
[12:01] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip thing is i dont wanna get rid of my winblows partition
[12:01] <Slasher`> posingaspopular, it's fine in the old KDE and in gnome just in kde4 it goes tiny lol
[12:01] <shoaibi> posingaspopular: i was surprised coz that against the Linux normal convention, i tasted so many distros, but this the first distro that "Let me create root account" :P
[12:01] <posingaspopular> look for system or settings or prefrences, im not too sure about xchat myself, but it should be easy.
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, theres an option to use unpartitioned space which you should use
[12:01] <eagles0513875> know my previous record with my last laptop getting games to work on linux was a night mare im afraid the same thing will happen
[12:02] <Slasher`> ah never mind you were correct it is in the xchat config
[12:02] <Slasher`> doh
[12:02] <Slasher`> lol
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> shoaibi, afaik, ubuntu has no root account. It can be created. Its not necessary due to sudo / kdesu
[12:02] <Slasher`> thanks
[12:02] <eagles0513875> ok ill try that now. u think i should be able to play games on my 6150 geforce go
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, sounds fine. Unpartition the space for kubuntu and the installer wil see it and offer to use it
[12:04] <shoaibi_> sorry, got dc, posingaspopular, ActionParsnip, did i miss something related to my question?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> just saying you dont need a root account due to sudo / kdesu
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> shoaibi, you can even do sudo - and the konsole will run as root (not advised)
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> "sudo -"
[12:06] <shoaibi_> ActionParsnip: yup, thats correct, just found a strange fact that there is this distro which doesnt have any root :P
[12:06] <eagles0513875> sudo =root
[12:06] <eagles0513875> cant u also enable root
[12:06] <eagles0513875> which is not advised
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> shoaibi, true. I found it odd at first. I came over from Mandriva.
[12:07] <shoaibi_> ActionParsnip: i came from Ubuntu :P
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, you can create the account but its not necessary
[12:07] <shoaibi_> okay, wont make it a chitchat channel, everyone continue.... :P :D
[12:07] <matthewb> Need help to install steam. Have got steamInstall.exe
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> matthewb, have you googled?
[12:07] <matthewb> yes
[12:07] <eagles0513875> shoaibi i know kubuntu is the distro i use now none other.
[12:08] <eagles0513875> well here goes nothing im goign to try get it installed on here
[12:08] <matthewb> doesent understanding
[12:08] <shoaibi_> ActionParsnip: funny fact, i can "finger" root, the account exists but not shown in user administration :D
[12:09] <matthewb> wich programe do I need to install steaminstall.exe
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> matthewb, that took me not very long
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> a minute
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> matthewb, http://linux.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/wine-gaming-steam-half-life-half-life-2-counter-strike-source-and-16/
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> !wine | matthewb
[12:09] <ubotu> matthewb: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[12:10] <Slasher`> .
[12:11] <ibou> hi
[12:11] <shoaibi_> ActionParsnip: also /etc/passwd tells that root does exist,now looking to how to change password of root...
[12:12] <shoaibi_> ActionParsnip: strange is this that if root exists in so many places, why the user administration of KDE is so dumn that it let me create another user with the name as root?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> shoaibi, http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/21/ubuntu-how-to-enable-the-root-account/
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> shoaibi, no idea man. Ive never created one.
[12:14] <shoaibi_> ActionParsnip: checking......
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> shoaibi, maybe stdin knows ;)
[12:15] <shoaibi_> ActionParsnip: Well i think i gotta tell it to the bugs.KDE.org i guess, or is it in kubuntu? its been years that i never touched a KDE distro
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu does not need a root account. You can do it all with sudo / kdesu. Its not a bug as you can run anything with admin priveledges using the password you logged in with
[12:16] <shoaibi_> ActionParsnip: another fact, install ubuntu, dont update, and it wont let you set a password with < 6chars, but kubuntu does :D
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> shoaibi, thats unique to that distribution then
[12:16] <simion314_>     hi, i use katapult to launch application but i am searching for something better? does anyone use other application launchers?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> simion314_, konsole (?)
[12:16] <shoaibi_> ActionParsnip: but letting a user being created with the username root, while /etc/passwd has a root is a bug, there becomes two root in passwd...
[12:17] <mitch_> Plasma crashed, I think. Now my panel is missing, how do I restart it?
[12:17] <ForgeAus> !kicker
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <ForgeAus> lol oh well it isn't called kicker in KDE4 anyway
[12:18] <ForgeAus> thought ubotu might have known
[12:18] <simion314_> ActionParsnip: no is a open source application but for windows, you can launch application, your own commands , search on google, wikipedia youtube send email, something like that
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> shoaibi, go log it then but you'll get a load of people telling you what i'm telling you. root is not required at all
[12:19] <ForgeAus> Simion depends on what you mean by launcher... theres stuff like macosx docking apps (kxdock?).. one is called cairodock or something like that from berlios...
[12:19] <ubuntu> Hobbsee: hey long time no c
[12:19] <ForgeAus> I find them nice apps to use they kinda work as launcher/panel replacements tho
[12:20] <shoaibi_> ActionParsnip: i understand, i really do. But tell me what will the system do when i try to login with root, while there are two root in /etc/passwd?
[12:20] <Hobbsee> hi
[12:20] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip: im on the live cd. for me to get on it seems i have to turn of acpi and dma
[12:20] <ubuntu> Hobbsee: j/w r there known compatibility issues with kubuntu and a tablet pc
[12:20] <Hobbsee> no idea
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> shoaibi, well you'll be running all apps with root access which is a HUGE security risk
[12:21] <mitch_> No idea what the kde kicker is called?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> shoaibi, I really have no idea, its not something Ive done
[12:21] <Daviey> mitch_: called "kicker" :)
[12:21] <ForgeAus> Daviey it used to be
[12:21] <ForgeAus> but I think it got renamed in KDE4
[12:21] <Daviey> ahh, sorry
[12:22] <ForgeAus> I think its still starts with kick, but not sure what its called...
[12:22] <noaXess> !backup
[12:22] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> mitch_, why not run everything from konsole instead.Every app can be ran from there
[12:23] <Slasher`> erm, i kinda messed up again and removed the task manager that shows all the windows minemised from the taskbar thingy and the clock and quick launch have all bunched up to the right, is there any way i can get the task manager back
[12:25] <mitch_> ActionParsnip: Because I prefer the kicker.
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Slasher: right click taskbar -> add item -> task manager
[12:25] <Slasher`> it won't right click in the blank space for some reason
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> mitch_, ok cool. Its not something Ive looked into
[12:25] <Slasher`> i'm on KDE4 if that makes a difference?
[12:25] <mitch_> I know I can "fix" it by deleting the .kde4 folder contents, but I don't want to have to :-/
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Slasher`, me too. that should sort you out. It might be application catcher
[12:26] <Slasher`> ActionParsnip: i can't even bring up a menu by right clicking the taskbar though which is strange :/
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Slasher`, you got it?
[12:26] <Slasher`> nope :(
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> how about the widget thingy in top right
[12:27] <Slasher`> add widgets?
[12:28] <Slasher`> there's a task manager widget in there but it doesn't work :/
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> hmmm
[12:29] <piour> Hello
[12:29] <Slasher`> brb i got an idea
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Slasher`, drag it to the taskbar
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> just worked for me
[12:29] <piour> no one know Squid tuto ?
[12:29] <belmefe> hi I'm trying to install the last version of ultrastar-ng but Im having trouble with some boost headers, and I haven been able to start using the version that comes in the repository.
[12:30] <ForgeAus> mitch the #KDE people may be able to help you better
[12:30] <Slasher`> sweet nice one ActionParsnip thanks
[12:30] <Slasher`> just need to get the clock back to the right hand corner now
[12:30] <piour> no one know Squid tuto ?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> piour, there are loads online
[12:31] <piour> oh yeah but they are ugly ;s
[12:31] <piour> so thx i'll go lunch
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Slasher`, drag widget digital clock
[12:32] <Slasher`> got it thanks :D
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Slasher`, np dude
[12:33] <Slasher`> this KDE4 is awesome
[12:33] <mikey> is there any way to test my wireless card on kubuntu-kde4-livecd?
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> mikey, what wireless card do you have?
[12:34] <ForgeAus> mikey only if you want cancer lol :)... (kidding)... I don't really know
[12:34] <mikey> ActionParsnip, i actually don't know right now, didn't write it down whiel i was booted in windows
[12:35] <Slasher`> mikey: it's a laptop, correct?
[12:35] <mikey> it's a dell xps, probably broadcom i think
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> mikey, can you give us a pastebin of the output of lspci
[12:35] <mikey> sure, let me go over to the dc where i have the machine up.
[12:36]  * ActionParsnip hmms thinking he'll need remoable media to transfer
[12:37] <anton_> Anyone as want to help me how to install my VIA drivers to my Grafic-card? Last time I used Kubuntu i wrote someting in the terminal, then it work'd. Any of you as now what i wrote?
[12:37] <mikey> hey there it is
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> anton_, what via graphics do you have?
[12:37] <mikey> broadcom bcm94311MCG mini-pci
[12:37] <anton_> VIA unichrome pro
[12:38] <mikey> 0c:00.0
[12:38] <mikey> so if lspci knows it, that means the kernel recognizes it right?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> anton_, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-636368.html
[12:38] <mikey> brb, work to do for a bit
[12:38] <anton_> Thank you!
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> mikey, thats just an output of your hardware. What make is the chip on your wireless? Is it broadcom as you said?
[12:41] <anton_> I dont now what version my Grafic-card is exactly, can i use another driver for a VIA unichrome pro card
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> anton_, does lspci tell you
[12:41] <anton_> lspci?
[12:42] <ForgeAus> its a program that scans your devices
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> anton_, run it in cosole and paste it to the pastebin
[12:42] <anton_> Ok
[12:43] <anton_> http://pastebin.com/d343aa86d
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> anton_, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA A                              dapter (rev 01)
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> anton_, its already installed
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> anton_, do you have a low resolution by any chance
[12:45] <anton_> Ye, ive got a low resolution right now, bcs kubuntu wont start else
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> anton_, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> anton_, change nothing except thepart where you add resolutions
[12:46] <mikey> ActionParsnip, <mikey> broadcom bcm94311MCG mini-pci
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> mikey, http://invaleed.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/install-bcm94311mcg-wlan-mini-pci-ubuntu-710/
[12:47] <anton_> Okay, can I cange it in xorg.conf?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> anton_, if you are comfortable doing it manually, yes. the command I sent you gives you a gui to it
[12:49] <anton_> I've got my xorg.conf file as i used before, i can just use that instead of my xorg.conf i've now?
[12:50] <anton_> I'll try that
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> bet he borks his xorg.conf
[13:00] <ubuntu> :)
[13:00] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip: hey thanks for helping me with the issue that i was having
[13:01] <ubuntu> can anyone explain to me why i have to end up turning dma pnpbios and acpi off just to get onto the live cd
[13:01] <ubuntu> this laptop isnt even a month old
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, check the settings in your laptops bios
[13:03] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip: i was able to get it installed now and i wasnt able to find any apci setting in my bios
[13:03] <ubuntu> ill brb let me get off the live cd
[13:08] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: everything is up and running ty for ur help
[13:08] <vbgunz> is it possible to color the user@station:~/ line in konsole?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, how did I help again? I forget
[13:08] <eagles0513875> lol
[13:09] <eagles0513875> i was having the issue with the manual locking up on me when creating partitions
[13:09] <eagles0513875> i uses the guided one for the largest amount of free space
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> vbgunz, do you want to change it to different colours or just the font colour to one colour (e.g grey to red)
[13:09] <eagles0513875> i was afraid to try taht cuz i thought it would have erased my windows partition
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, oh yeah. sweet :D
[13:09] <eagles0513875> everything is up and running i just need to figure out why when booting to live cd i need to turn off dma apci and pnpbios
[13:10] <vbgunz> just change the user@station:~/ to another color... this way, scrolling back through current history and output is easier
[13:10] <eagles0513875> i might need to flash my bios dunno
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, is your bios set up ok?
[13:10] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: default bios that came with the notebook from hp nothings been changed
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> vbgunz, so like the prompt is one colour and the output is another
[13:10] <vbgunz> yes
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, i'd check in there first
[13:10] <Beanos> big problems! I am running in recovery mode. My keyboard will NOT work in x under normal boot
[13:11] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: what do i check for
[13:11] <Beanos> I have checked my xorg,conf file and all is well
[13:11] <eagles0513875> Beanos: did u do an upgrade from an earlier release
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> vbgunz, xterm might be good. It has good colourings by default
[13:12] <Beanos> What I did last was patch and re-install wine so I could play COD4 (which worked I might add) Then when I logged out, no more keyboard
[13:12] <vbgunz> am using Yakuake and bash
[13:12] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: even after a rebot?
[13:12] <Beanos> I have rebooted
[13:12] <eagles0513875> now i found another problem
[13:13] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: i have no audio what so ever
[13:13] <Beanos> I can log in but when in X no keyboard not even num loc
[13:13] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: without a keyboard, its awful hard to fid the problem =) is it just a normal PS2 one?
[13:13] <Beanos> Its a laptop
[13:13] <nosrednaekim> oh.... even worse...
[13:13] <Beanos> I am on the same machine now in recovery mode
[13:14] <eagles0513875> beanos did u update the repos and do a cdless upgrade from a previous version of kubuntu
[13:14] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: ah..ok
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, what audio card do you have?
[13:14] <eagles0513875> seems like its part of the nvidia chipset
[13:14] <eagles0513875> its an hd audio one give me a min
[13:15] <Beanos> the kubuntu was completely updated. All was running smoothly. I wanted to play COD4, so I ended up downloading wine src and patching it with diffs and compiling and installing it
[13:15] <eagles0513875> what im saying is did u have a previous version of it on here then updated by changing the repos and doing a full dist upgrade
[13:15] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: are you in X, or on the command line?
[13:15] <Beanos> game played well enough, then when I exited, no more keyboard
[13:15] <Beanos> I am in x in recovery mode
[13:16] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: according to lspci its an mcp51 high def audio
[13:16] <Beanos> recovery mode x works  fine
[13:16] <Beanos> when I boot to the normal kernal its screwed
[13:16] <Beanos> command line keyboard works fine
[13:16] <eagles0513875> if u did a complete dist-upgrade without a reinstall to latest version its goign to be buggy
[13:16] <Beanos> the log in to x screen keyboard works fine as well
[13:17] <eagles0513875> Beanos: what kinda laptop is it
[13:17] <Beanos> soon as I am in X no keyboard no cap lock no num lock no nothing
[13:17] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: ah, ok.... if you are in X, does "ctrl+alt+f2" get you to a command line?
[13:17] <Beanos> Sager (basicaly an Alien Ware)
[13:18] <Beanos> nosrednaekim I'll have to check that
[13:18] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: i switched it to alsa in the setting tab im waiting for it to restart the audio server
[13:18] <Beanos> I can open windows such as term etc, with the mouse, just no keyboard imput at all
[13:18] <sigma> is there no kde version of inkscape? i see the one in the repo's has been designed for gnome
[13:18] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: if you can, we can grab the xorg log
[13:19] <eagles0513875> sigma: u can still use it on kde
[13:19] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: there is a on-screen keyboard too..
[13:19] <Beanos> onscreen keyboard?
[13:19] <Beanos> let me grab ythe log now
[13:19] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: one that you click with the mouse
[13:19] <sigma> yeah i know i can but i dont want to install all those gnome dependencies, is there anyway around it?
[13:19] <eagles0513875> sigma: not really no
[13:20] <eagles0513875> unless u install gnome desktop
[13:20] <nosrednaekim> sigma: Karbon14 is supposed to the kde version, but inkscape is far better
[13:20] <Beanos> let me  guess, you need to be able to load it?
[13:20] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: load what?
[13:20] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: im goign to restart
[13:20] <Beanos> the onscreen keyboard
[13:20] <sigma> nosrednaekim: thanks, is it in the repos?
[13:20] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: nope, on gutsy its installed by default.
[13:20] <nosrednaekim> !info karbon14
[13:20] <ubotu> Package karbon14 does not exist in gutsy
[13:20] <Beanos> where do I find it
[13:21] <nosrednaekim> !info koffice
[13:21] <ubotu> koffice (source: koffice): KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.3-0ubuntu5.1 (gutsy), package size 25 kB, installed size 76 kB
[13:21] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: heh... not exactly sure... i'm pretty sure its in the menu though
[13:21] <Beanos> which log should I post to the paste bin?
[13:21] <nosrednaekim> the command line name is "kxkb, but thats not really going to help you
[13:22] <Beanos> so true so true
[13:22] <nosrednaekim>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but thats only going to be helpful if the last time you started X is went wacky
[13:22] <Beanos> well I have started and restarted a bunch of times
[13:23] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: yeah, you need the log from a crashed session.
[13:23] <Beanos> xorg.0.old log?
[13:23] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: in addition does failsafe mode (selected from kdm) work?
[13:23] <Beanos> it hasn't crashed, I have been able to log out with the mouse
[13:24] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: no.... we need THE one from the time it crashed, we can't be sure that one crashed/went weird
[13:24] <Beanos> failsafe mode? I hit escape and log in recovery mode thru grub
[13:24] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: once you are in KDM, click on the sessions button, and select "failsafe"
[13:24] <Beanos> ah ok got you.. let me give that a try. I'll be back
[13:25] <nosrednaekim> if that works... its a problem with kde
[13:25] <nosrednaekim> ok
[13:25] <nosrednaekim> test ctrl+alt+f2 in a normal session too
[13:29] <anton_> I cant get my right screen resulotion
[13:29] <cathrine> i have a new kubuntu 7.10 install. can i connect wireless directly to another kubuntu computer, without having a router? i have a lot of files to transfer and dont have a portable harddisk...
[13:29] <nosrednaekim> cathrine: if they can both do ad-hoc, yes
[13:30] <cathrine> is it easy to make an ad-hoc on one of the computers then?
[13:30] <anton_> Hos to check my drivers in terminal?
[13:30] <nosrednaekim> cathrine: you have to do ad-hoc on both computers... its not hard as a remember.
[13:31] <nosrednaekim> anton_: use the restricted-manager-kde
[13:31] <anton_> Okey, werw do i find that?
[13:31] <nosrednaekim> anton_: systemsettings->advanced->restrciced drivers
[13:32] <anton_> Ok
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> anton_, did you go through the sudo dpgk reconfigure xorg
[13:32] <nosrednaekim> ActionParsnip: thats not going to help if he doesn't even have them installed
[13:32] <anton_> Ye, ive tryed that a couple of time's
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> nosrednaekim, hes on a Via Unichrome graphics card which is installed
[13:33] <nosrednaekim> oh.... anton_ what res do you want?
[13:33] <anton_> Ive tryed to conf the xorg.. I typed sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:33] <anton_> 1024x768
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> http://pastebin.com/d343aa86d
[13:34] <nosrednaekim> anton_: you may as well use the vesa driver then
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> nosrednaekim, http://pastebin.com/d343aa86d
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> nosrednaekim, thats his lspci
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> nosrednaekim, line 28
[13:34] <anton_> Yes, im using the vesa driver now, but can't change resolution in systemsettings, screen.
[13:35] <nosrednaekim> ok... I don't doubt you ;)
[13:35] <nosrednaekim> anton_: what res are you getting right now?
[13:36] <anton_> What i sec
[13:36]  * ActionParsnip bets 800 x 600
[13:36] <anton_> Yes, that's right!
[13:36] <nosrednaekim> hrm, could you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[13:37] <anton_> Okay, what a sec :)
[13:38] <anton_> http://pastebin.com/m742a54e2
[13:40] <Beanos> well in failsafe mode keyboard works fine. In normal mode even the virtual keyboard dosn't work. suggestions?
[13:40] <Beanos> we think its a KDE issue yes?
[13:41] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: I'm talking to someone who has the same precise problem
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> anton_, change line 93 to 1024x768 instead of 800x600 but back up the original first to xorg.conf_good or similar
[13:42] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: thats what it seems like
[13:42] <Beanos> suggestions?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> anton_, you can then roll back if it doesnt work
[13:42] <nosrednaekim> txwikinger: seems to be a KDE problem
[13:42] <anton_> Okey, I'll try, but can I still do vesa?
[13:42] <nosrednaekim> anton_: yes
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> anton_, the command i sent you with dpkg is a gui to xorg.conf and will allow you to add resolutions
[13:43] <anton_> Okay, but before i just wrote a command and everything workd
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> anton_, kubuntu does not expect users to go modifying such a delicate file without some guidance
[13:44] <anton_> Ok, so ill try to change res to 1024x768, be right back :) Thanks 4 helping me!
[13:44] <gtt> should alt-f1 bring up the menu in kde4 ?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> anton_, backup the original first
[13:45] <nosrednaekim> gtt: not on mine..
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> gtt, try ctrl + esc (?)
[13:45] <Beanos> think upgrading to kde 4 would fix my problem?
[13:45] <Beanos> apt-get install kde4
[13:46] <anton_> Is that important? I mean, i can change res  to the same i use now if it wouldnt work?
[13:46] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: actually, I'd bet it would ;), but don't use that one, use the one from the PPA
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Beanos, http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php
[13:46] <nosrednaekim> !kde4
[13:46] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Beanos, I dont think it will help any though
[13:46] <BluesKaj> kde4 caused me more problems than it's worth
[13:46] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: but we have to find out what this problem is
[13:46] <Beanos> ok, well how do you suggest I fix my problem?
[13:46] <chartoin> so kde4 isn't any better?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> chartoin, its pretty but runs alongside kde3 as not all apps use kde4libs yet
[13:47] <Beanos> I just ran it with no keyboard so the log0 should be good
[13:47] <chartoin> i have no problems whatsoever. should i upgrade to kde 4?
[13:48] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: ok, can you do ctrl+alt+f2 to get to the command line from within kde?
[13:49] <Beanos> damn got so enamored with playing failsafe mode didn't try, however I seriously doubt it as the keyboard is completely turned off. ie can't get a num lock light or cap lock light
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Beanos, power off. unplug keyboard and get  adifferent one
[13:50] <nosrednaekim> ActionParsnip: Laptop ;)
[13:50] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: try it anyway
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Beanos, do you have a usb keyboard
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Beanos, lappy keybaords suck for games
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Beanos, specially if you get excited and break it (can be expensive)
[13:51] <thomas__> not true
[13:51] <thomas__> I own it UT on my laptop :)
[13:51] <Beanos> full sized keyboard with numberpad
[13:51] <Beanos> BIG laptop (16 lbs)
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> thomas__, not if you damage stuff below the keyboard if you hit it. Easier to replace a POS kb
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Beanos, try it anyhoo
[13:52] <Beanos> let me see if I can find a keyboard
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Beanos, it wil at least let you interact with the beast and troubleshoout
[13:53] <nosrednaekim> Beanos: try ctrl+alt+f2 first please...
[13:53] <Beanos> ok have a USB keyboard, will try to reboot into other session
[13:53] <Beanos> wilco
[13:53] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[13:56] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: u going to be here for a while
[13:57] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: sry it took me so long to get back on here had to screw around with some settings in grub. the bash settings for this thing to boot right. as well as i downloaded the updates since i didnt have kde desktop
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, about an hour more
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, np man :D
[13:58] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: damn dunno how long im going to be gone if ur not here thanks so much for ur help
[13:58] <eagles0513875> !ntfs3g
[13:58] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, np man its how this thingworks
[13:59] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: ntfs3g comes install with gutsy
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, ive not used it. I have a fileserver that all my systems write / read to
[14:00] <eagles0513875> lol wish it could be the same. im duel boot this is like a dev partition
[14:00] <eagles0513875> dont even have a desktop handy to set that all up
[14:01] <eagles0513875> ill deal with that when i get back
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875, if you are ok at command line you dont need an x server
[14:02] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: im decent
[14:03] <eagles0513875> not the greatest i know how to download updates and pkgs through there and go to folders
[14:03] <eagles0513875> thats bout it
[14:03] <eagles0513875> later dude
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> you can even web browse with links2 -g with vgalibs
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> peace
[14:03] <lupul> hi. need some help. i try to start wine but it gives an error. wineserver: could not save registry branch to /home/lupul/.wine-pZPDOq/system.reg : No such file or directory
[14:04] <lupul> please :D
[14:04] <niall_> digikam is kinda rubbish
[14:05] <nosrednaekim> lupul: #winehq
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> niall_, use something else then
[14:06] <niall_> I dunno what else there is
[14:06] <lupul> nosrednaekim more help please?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> lupul, how are you running wine?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> niall_, then get googling for an alternative
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> niall_, try picassa
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> niall_, the point of Linux is you have choice. If you search for software you will find it
[14:09] <lupul> winecfg. that's what i'm trying
[14:10] <lupul> but it gives the same error when i try sometghing like wine hl.exe
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> lupul, can we have a pastebin of what happens when you run wine hl.exe
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> lupul, i'm guessing you hve cd'd to the folder with hl.exe in it
[14:12] <dhq> my server blocked an irc site how do i access it please i need it
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> dhq, your server?
[14:13] <Beanos> yes success.. You will NEVER believe what the problem was
[14:13] <dhq> ActionParsnip: well irc.linuxfromscratch.org
[14:13] <BluesKaj> dhq, irc server?
[14:13] <lupul> wine: creating configuration directory '/home/lupul/.wine'...
[14:13] <lupul> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[14:13] <dhq> BluesKaj: yes
[14:14] <lupul> wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/home/lupul/.wine'.
[14:14] <lupul> lupul@eo:~/kit games/Sierra_Sports_Game_Room-CLS$ wineserver: could not save registry branch to /home/lupul/.wine-ypi6hf/system.reg : No such file or directory
[14:14] <lupul> wineserver: could not save registry branch to /home/lupul/.wine-ypi6hf/user.reg : No such file or directory
[14:14] <BluesKaj> dhq, which irc server?
[14:14] <dhq> well irc.linuxfromscratch.org
[14:14] <anton_> It didnt work, now im on vesa and can't do more resolution then 800x600, any ideas?
[14:14] <Beanos> it some how got set to assecibility options and needed each key press to last 8 seconds
[14:15] <BluesKaj> dhq, no doubt you need to register
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> !paste " lupl
[14:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste " lupl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> !pastebin | lupul
[14:15] <ubotu> lupul: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:15] <dhq> BluesKaj: my isp blocked it
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> lupul, put it in there
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> dhq, contact your ISP then
[14:15] <BluesKaj> isp ?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj, internet service provider
[14:16] <dhq> ActionParsnip: the people here are  not there
[14:16] <lupul> sorry ActionParsnip but i'm kind of newbee
[14:16] <dhq> ActionParsnip: they dont listen
[14:16] <dhq> ActionParsnip: is there anyway to bypass this
[14:16] <BluesKaj> gee ActionParsnip , thx :)
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> lupul, paste the text in there then you give us the little link so you dont flood the room. Imagine if everybody started pasting stuff like that\
[14:17] <BluesKaj> how can an isp block an irc server?
[14:17] <niall_> digicam needs an autorename feature
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj, well they give you your data so they can block anything they want
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> niall_, in what way?
[14:17] <Lynoure> dhq: you can vote with your feet for an ISP that listens. or you can get shell account for irc from somewhere else
[14:18] <BluesKaj> oh come now ...big brother is watching ?...gimme a break
[14:18] <Lynoure> BluesKaj: easily, some even block all of the standard irc ports.
[14:18] <BluesKaj> I still think there's something wrong with the irc addy he's trying
[14:19] <dhq> Lynoure: tell me
[14:19] <Lynoure> dhq: what?
[14:19] <niall_> ActionParsnip: I'm importing loads of photos which share the file names of a boat load I already have in my album. So I keep getting a 'File Already Exists' dialogue which gives me the option to rename (manually), skip, autoskip, overwrite and overwrite all. There's not option to just rename them all, like dump an underscore on the end. I can't be arsed to set through like 1000 windows renaming them all myself ¬_¬.,
[14:19] <lupul> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53020/
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> niall_, why not create a folder for each batch. Having a flat folder full of photos really isnt practical
[14:21] <niall_> ActionParsnip: they're all part of the same collection, I just formatted the card half way through after backing up the first ones, so the camera starting name the files back from 0.
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> lupul, good please use that in future
[14:21] <BluesKaj> dhq, are you @work , on a company run WAN and ISP ?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> lupul, you could try sudo wine ./INSTALL.exe
[14:22] <lupul> same error
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> niall_, you could write a script to check if the filename exists and rrenames it before copying the file
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> niall_, have a search round to see if ne exists
[14:22] <niall_> also the default sort is by filename, rather than date, even in the _date_ view.
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> niall_, or write your own :D
[14:22] <dhq> BluesKaj: i am at home on a wan
[14:23] <niall_> someone needs to fix all of this ;x
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> niall_, put it to the digikam guys
[14:23] <lupul> i'm on gutsy 64. i did something to make flashplayer work on firefox, but in the instructions there was something writing that wine won't work
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> niall_, if you google you may strike lucky
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> !flash | lupul
[14:23] <ubotu> lupul: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[14:23] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[14:23] <niall_> it cares too much about the actual files
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> niall_, in what way do you mean?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> dhq , i don't know what the freedom of expression and speech laws are in your country but internet censorship shouldn't be allowed by any ISP that does business in a democratic country.
[14:27] <dhq> BluesKaj: well its a private isp
[14:27] <BluesKaj> aha, now comes the reality
[14:27] <dhq> BluesKaj: i did email them but no news
[14:28] <dhq> BluesKaj: now i have no idea i am working on LFS and i cant join the channel
[14:28] <niall_> ActionParsnip: well for a start when I'm importing these photos into an album it's just moving them all into a folder and then worrying about them having the same name, the file name is pretty irrelevent tbh, I care more about the meta data and stuff. My album is just a folder in my home directory with all stuff I'm importing put in there, which means if I've got stuff in more than one folder I want to import into the album
[14:28] <niall_> I have to import them all individually, or it just imports the folders too and they become part of the albums structure. What's on the actual disk shouldn't really matter, the 'albums' they're in should be defined by more meta data, entries in a database not how things are actually set up, that is just causing all sorts of problems.
[14:29] <anton_> How to du here: http://pastebin.com/m1c39850a ?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> dhq, a small time ISP trying to save bandwidth isn't much use if it blocks text driven clients like IRC
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> niall_, as I say. Try a different app. Yuo dont have to use digikam
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> niall_, i agree the metadata should be used but in any operating system, 2 identically named files cannot coexists in the same folder
[14:31] <niall_> I know that
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> niall_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=453767
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> niall_, is that any good to you ?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> anton_, you need to run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:33] <anton_> Yeah, i figured that out.
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> anton_, 99% of dpkg commands need sudo
[14:34] <anton_> Ok
[14:34] <anton_> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> anton_, yes. you cannot install stuff as a user, you need sudo
[14:34] <anton_> Yeah, but that command shall work, right?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> anton_, yeah should do
[14:35] <anton_> Ok, but it doesn't, hmm, can I paste a pastebin?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> sure
[14:36] <thomas__> maybe set language to english instead of swedish anton_
[14:38] <vbgunz> anyone familiar with ls? there is no way to sort alphabetically *but* directories first?
[14:38] <anton_> Yeah, i thought I ask'd you, but it was in wrong chanel :P
[14:40] <anton_> I think this is the right comand: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-unichrome
[14:40] <anton_> So i would try that one
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> vbgunz, googling now
[14:42] <vbgunz> ActionParsnip: heh, no need to google, I checked the man and seen no way to do it, would probably require some chains, etc, not really very important :)
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> vbgunz, yeah ive kinda got that too
[14:43] <vbgunz> thanks :)
[14:44] <niall_> ActionParsnip: that little copy move script is doing it's thing right now, pretty handy.
[14:44] <niall_> this could take a while ;x
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> niall_, like i say. Search for what you need. It may not be a function of your favourite app.
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> niall_, you could put it in a script and use it later
[14:50] <dhq> BluesKaj: again i got dcc
[14:50] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, dhq got into the server and room he was trying to connect up...it wasn't his ISP, it's the server ...it took me 3 tries , but i got there too.
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj, what was it then?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj, didnt think it was his ISP
[14:51] <BluesKaj> irc.linuxfromscratch.org
[14:52] <BluesKaj> yeah , i know you didn't think that , but he did ...and i couldn't understand why
[14:52] <fulat2k> hi folks, just installed kubuntu 7.10 on a dell latitude d630.  using the live cd, i was able to connect to a wifi point w/o wep, but with MAC filtering.  but after installing, connecting to an AP with WEP doesn't work.  any ideas?  using ipw3945
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> fulat2k, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=256859
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> fulat2k, please google before asking
[14:56] <BluesKaj> !wireless | fulat2k
[14:56] <ubotu> fulat2k: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> Peace out dudes
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> home time for me
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> check you tomorrow
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> 7am GMT, 2am EST
[15:09] <ops1234509> how long will fiesty be supported?
[15:11] <emonkey> 18 Months if I'm right ...
[15:11] <bazhang> this year perhaps? wasnt it released in 2006?
[15:13] <tatter1> I noticed a kde4 remastered kubuntu that out ,,,,is kde4 going to be released with hardy or not
[15:17] <BluesKaj> tatter1, no kde 3.5.8 will be the kubuntu desktop for the next release
[15:17] <tatter1> k, looks like it time to try the remastered version then, thnx
[15:18] <steveny> hello:) I have a small problem:( new to this:( does someone have a spare minute?
[15:19] <steveny> i can't use my usb ports:(
[15:19] <tatter1> have been able to previously?
[15:20] <steveny> when I livecd'ed I could...but then after the full install, they don't work
[15:20] <steveny> and now when I live cd, they don't work eaither
[15:22] <steveny> is there something I can try?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> steveny, dmesg | grep usb , then pastebin the output
[15:25] <steveny> HA! what is the paste command? ctrl p doesn't work in ubuntu :P
[15:25] <tmske> try shift insert
[15:25] <BluesKaj> ctrl v
[15:25] <steveny> steveny@steveny-laptop:~$ dmesg | grep usb
[15:25] <steveny> [17179575.916000] usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
[15:25] <steveny> [17179575.916000] usbcore: registered new driver hub
[15:26] <steveny> thank you
[15:27] <BluesKaj> np
[15:28] <steveny> ok, what am I looking for?
[15:31] <steveny> is there something else I can try? I really miss my mouse and hd's...:(
[15:33] <Sbucatone> !kde4
[15:33] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[15:34] <steveny> :( it looks like ubuntu wasn't for me:( I can't live without my usb stuff :( Maybe Mr Gates will let me use his stuff again:(
[15:35] <niall_> what USB stuff?
[15:36] <steveny> I can't get my ports to work. I have two usb hd's, cameras, mp3 players, a printer, mouse and so on.....I need the usb ports to work
[15:37] <intExDK> Hey... I just bought a USB pen, and now I'd like to format it. How do I do that in Kubuntu?
[15:39] <steveny> is there another channel that may have someone that can help? I thought this was the biggest?
[15:40] <tmske> steveny: you can try in #ubuntu
[15:40] <ScorpKing> steveny: or #linux
[15:42] <steveny> ty
[15:44] <eagles0513875> i have 2 issues one is with audio and also getting my vista partition to mount so i can add ntfs3g support to it. i looked in my fstab and its not even showing up
[15:44] <eagles0513875> my 2nd issue is that i have no sound what so ever
[15:45] <thomas__> eagles0513875: try google ;-) there ara an uncountable amounts of wiki's on how to resove there problems
[15:47] <ubuntu> Hallo, gibt es einen Befehl um eine Festplatte unter der Live-CD komplett zu löschen/formatieren?
[15:47] <thomas__> !de | ubuntu
[15:47] <ubotu> ubuntu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:48] <ScorpKing> !ntfs | eagles0513875
[15:48] <ubotu> eagles0513875: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[15:50] <eagles051387_> i have a 2 fold problem 1 no sound what so ever. 2 cant mount vista ntfs partition and its not showing up in fstab so i can add ntfs3g support to it
[15:50] <eagles051387_> anyone with any ideas
[15:51] <BluesKaj> eagles051387, try Easy BCD on vista
[15:51] <eagles051387_> !easybcd
[15:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easybcd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:52] <BluesKaj> or this page may help :  http://www.pronetworks.org/forum/about78184.html
[15:52] <bazhang> easy bcd haha
[15:52] <eagles051387_> BluesKaj what is it
[15:52] <tekstacy> I'm trying to resize a partition with QTParted, but it tells me the drive is busy. But the drive (says) it isn't mounted. How do I fix this?
[15:52] <BluesKaj> it's abootloader for Vista and Linux
[15:52] <thomas__> tekstacy: unmount it though konsole
[15:52] <eagles051387_> BluesKaj i am having no issues with grub
[15:52] <eagles051387_> im able to get on both partitions even though i do get a bios bug #81
[15:53] <eagles051387_> it still loads but i do get random mouse lockups
[15:53] <BluesKaj> oh sorry, thought you were having bootup probs
[15:53] <tekstacy> um, how?
[15:54] <tekstacy> Sorry, never done that yet.
[15:54] <eagles051387_> BluesKaj no boot up issues im havin in linux issues my ntfs partition is not showing up in fstab and going to the icon i cant mount it either
[15:55] <BluesKaj> eagles051387 I think working in Vista with BCD will help solve the NTFS prob , check it out
[15:55] <BluesKaj> well, BBL , gonna get some fresh winter air for an hr or so.
[15:55] <eagles051387_> BluesKaj im trying to access it from kubuntu
[15:56] <BluesKaj> yeah , that's why I suggested check out BCD
[15:56] <eagles051387_> alright let me get back on kubuntu partition
[15:56] <BluesKaj> gotta go, BBL
[15:57] <tekstacy> ahhh, I found it.  :)  didn't catch the missing n
[16:00] <ubuntu> how can i unmount a partition?
[16:06] <PowerJC> how would kubuntu run on this computer: duron 1600, 256 mb
[16:07] <reverend_joshua> i can't get my second hard drive mounted with write permission
[16:07] <reverend_joshua> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,
[16:07] <Vermux> have problems with my user account
[16:07] <Vermux> how do I delete the user and all settings?
[16:07] <Chousuke> PowerJC: I suppose it would run, but more memory would be good :)
[16:08] <PowerJC> would it run well, or would i be better with xubuntu?
[16:08] <Chousuke> I'm not sure. You could try both.
[16:08] <eagles0513875> after restarting my computer and have it boot into kubuntu the desktop doesnt load
[16:08] <eagles0513875> r there any known bugs with kubuntu and amd turion x2 processors
[16:09] <AmyRose> !pm | eagles0513875
[16:09] <ubotu> eagles0513875: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[16:09] <Chousuke> PowerJC: just install kubuntu and then install the xubuntu-desktop package to get xubuntu apps installed as well.
[16:09] <eagles0513875> AmyRose lol sry can i pm ya
[16:09] <PowerJC> ok, so if kubuntu is to slow just install xubuntu package if it is too slow?
[16:09] <Chousuke> PowerJC: then you can just select your session at the login screen
[16:09] <PowerJC> ok
[16:09] <Chousuke> yeah.
[16:10] <xt|away> anyone here know much about fiddling with /etc/fstab ?
[16:10] <eagles0513875> xt828 what u trying to do with it
[16:11] <xt828> i have a complicated raid 0 setup i'm trying to get data off
[16:11] <eagles0513875> xt828 im guessing ntfs format
[16:11] <xt828> there's two physical drives, and it looks like they're partitioned into three
[16:12] <xt828> all three start on the first drive
[16:12] <eagles0513875> xt828 r they ntfs ext3 or what file format
[16:12] <jussi01> !raid | xt828
[16:12] <ubotu> xt828: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[16:12] <eagles0513875> jussi01 do u know of any known issues with kubuntu and amd turion x2's
[16:13] <jussi01> eagles0513875: yeah, you need to add a few things to grub boot line
[16:13] <eagles0513875> jussi01 how do i go bout doing that
[16:13] <eagles0513875> and will that eliminate me from having to turn of dma acip and pnp bios cuz im also getting a bios bug #81
[16:14] <Vermux> Im about to deluser my current user and --remove-all- files. what do I need to do after that to addthe user correctly?
[16:14] <jussi01> eagles0513875: when grub pops up, read the instructions.... and add noapic nolapic to the boot line
[16:14] <eagles0513875> thats it
[16:15] <eagles0513875> jussi01 once i get to the desktop can i permenantly add that to grub
[16:15] <jussi01> eagles0513875: yes, that permanently adds it...
[16:15] <eagles0513875> jussi01 let me get this stright
[16:15] <ScorpKing> Vermux: why do you want to do that if i may ask?
[16:15] <thomas_newbie__> I installed PHP and enabled it to work with Apache but whenever I go to open an php page it asks me to download it. I resarted Apache and reloaded browser cache by exiting, still no luck.
[16:15] <f1xer> hi all i have one question about kubuntu
[16:16] <f1xer> can somebody help me?
[16:16] <xt828> okay, dmraid -r gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53039/
[16:16] <eagles0513875> jussi01 when grub pops up hit e to open list of commands and under root type nolapci
[16:16] <ScorpKing> !ask > f1xer
[16:16] <xt828> and the relevant part of fdisk -l is this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53040/
[16:17] <ScorpKing> !lamp | thomas__
[16:17] <ubotu> thomas__: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[16:17] <xt828> i can't seem to find any analogues in the help files
[16:17] <Vermux> ScorpKing: because since yesterday I cant get into Administrative mode in gui (for example: in System Settings- change the screen resolution. another example: Adept|_manager does not even open now)
[16:17] <ScorpKing> Vermux: ok i see. your user in the admin group?
[16:17] <Vermux> ScorpKing: yesterday I deleted the my user and added it again- but it did not work correctly
[16:18] <Vermux> ScorpKing: I think, I dont know
[16:18] <f1xer> if i already have ubuntu 7.05 and now i want have kubuntu 1.0PL i must return orginall MBR on my HD ?
[16:18] <Vermux> ScorpKing: I changed an entry in the /etc/group but I think everything is not working properly
[16:18] <intelikey> Vermux konsole command;   sudo echo yes
[16:19] <ScorpKing> Vermux: grep youruser /etc/group - there should be admin:x:109:youruser
[16:19] <Vermux> intelikey: yes
[16:19] <intelikey> Vermux ok you didn't break sudo.  so you can;  sudo -i     and fix what ever
[16:20] <ScorpKing> Vermux: mv /home/youruser /home/youruser_old and create your homedir again
[16:20] <Vermux> ScorpKing: I have my user name and 118 and 1000
[16:21] <ScorpKing> Vermux: 1000 should be your uid
[16:21] <Vermux> ScorpKing: ok, I have 118 instead of 109
[16:22] <ScorpKing> Vermux: move your home dir and delete your user. create it again and see if it works
[16:23] <ScorpKing> Vermux: if you want to add yourself to a group run sudo adduser <you> <group>
[16:23] <reverend_joshua> is there any way to get write permission on an NTFS drive?
[16:23] <ScorpKing> reverend_joshua: ls -l /<mointpoint>
[16:23] <eagles0513875> !ntfs3g | reverend_joshua
[16:23] <ubotu> reverend_joshua: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[16:23] <ScorpKing> ugh. nvm
[16:24] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing everything ok
[16:24] <Vermux> ScorpKing: ok, I mv the home. now I suppose to mkdir it again?
[16:24] <_hufi_> hey
[16:24] <ScorpKing> Vermux: no. just delete the user
[16:24] <_hufi_> where are you from?
[16:24] <eagles0513875> jussi01 i tried nolapci yet it still didnt boot kde
[16:25] <eagles0513875> !offtopic | _hufi_
[16:25] <ubotu> _hufi_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[16:25] <Vermux> ScorpKing: but I need to log out in order to delete the user, no?
[16:25] <ScorpKing> Vermux: i don't think so. you just have to be root
[16:26] <eagles0513875> where exactly in grub do i have to type in  nolapci when i hit e it give mee root a 2nd one the initrd
[16:26] <Vermux> ScorpKing: it says my user is currently logged in
[16:26] <reverend_joshua> is ntfsprogs the same as the ntfs-config
[16:26] <reverend_joshua> package?
[16:26] <ScorpKing> Vermux: boot to recovery mode
[16:26] <Vermux> ScorpKing: ok
[16:27] <eagles0513875> reverend_joshua u know how to use the command line commands
[16:27] <ScorpKing> reverend_joshua: i don't think you need that.
[16:27] <reverend_joshua> not really, no
[16:27] <eagles0513875> reverend_joshua if ur in the adept manager type in the search ntfs-3g
[16:27] <intelikey> Vermux you can do it from a console; in konsole type this    sudo openvt -fc 12      then logout and press ctrl+alt+f12
[16:28] <ScorpKing> reverend_joshua: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/<disk> /<mointpoint>
[16:29] <xt828> based on this fstab -l http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53040/  what file system formats should i be using for mounting the second and third partitions?
[16:29] <xt828> can i use ntfs-3g for all of them?
[16:29] <eagles0513875> xt828 if they r all ntfs u should be able to mount them all
[16:29] <ScorpKing> xt828: ntfs-3g is only for ntfs
[16:29] <reverend_joshua> it says ntfs-3g is an unknown filesystem
[16:30] <arrrghhh> ntfs-3g isn't a file system
[16:30] <eagles0513875> reverend_joshua u need to download the ntfs-3g pkgs first
[16:30] <arrrghhh> ntfs is a file system
[16:30] <xt828> what do i use for W95 Ext'd LBA?
[16:30] <eagles0513875> he needs to download the pkgs first
[16:30] <eagles0513875> xt828 win 95 used fat32
[16:31] <Chousuke> xt828: that is not a file system.
[16:31] <xt828> righto
[16:31] <reverend_joshua> adept is giving me the options of libntfs8 and ntfsprogs
[16:31] <reverend_joshua> but nothing ntfs-3g
[16:32] <eagles0513875> reverend_joshua interesting then it might have laready been included in gutsy in that case ull need to edit the fstab then unmount the drive and remount it
[16:32] <Chousuke> xt828: sdc5 doesn't seem to even have a filesystem
[16:32] <Chousuke> xt828: you may need to format it (it will destroy any data on the partition)
[16:32] <xt828> sdc5 is stretched across sdd from what i can tell
[16:33] <Chousuke> hmm
[16:33] <Chousuke> that seems really weird.
[16:33] <xt828> i'm trying to pull the data off those drives so that i can format them
[16:33] <xt828> yeah, the drive setup was not brilliant
[16:34] <eagles0513875> wouldnt u want just the data off the main drive instead of the raided drives
[16:35] <xt828> how do you mean the main drive?
[16:35] <xt828> oh he left
[16:38] <xt828> eagles: how do you mean the main drive?
[16:39] <eagles0513875> xt828 the main drive is the one u boot off of
[16:40] <eagles0513875> im getting uberly frustrated here i was informed there is a bug with kubuntu and turion 64 x2 chips can someone tell me how to remedy the situation i already tried when grub comes up to change it to where there is nolapci support
[16:40] <eagles0513875> yet it still doesnt work
[16:40] <eagles0513875> !pnpbios
[16:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pnpbios - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:41] <Vermux> ScorpKing: have a big problem now. Im chatting through the laptop now. GotL"Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use
[16:41] <unagi> can i make a new user account and install kde/gnome on it to try it out or will that affect my other users too
[16:42] <eagles0513875> when i hit e to edit the start up commands where exactly do i type in acpi=off etc
[16:43] <ScorpKing> Vermux: did you delete the user?
[16:43] <Vermux> ScorpKing: no
[16:43] <Vermux> ScorpKing: I clicked on graphic safe mode
[16:43] <ScorpKing> Vermux: oh ok. why is there ntfs in there?
[16:43] <eagles0513875> xt828 how is ur raid exactly setup
[16:44] <Vermux> ScorpKing: I have win xp installed on a different partition
[16:44] <eagles0513875> Vermux give the machien a reboot
[16:44] <Vermux> ScorpKing: should I delete the user now?
[16:44] <eagles0513875> Vermux something some how is locked in memory
[16:44] <Vermux> ScorpKing: it is text mode
[16:44] <ScorpKing> Vermux: yes and create it again
[16:45] <Vermux> ScorpKing: removing
[16:45] <ScorpKing> righto..
[16:47] <Vermux> ScorpKing: nothing happans, it says Removing User... but nothing happans
[16:47] <ScorpKing> ls -l /home
[16:47] <ScorpKing> nah
[16:47] <Vermux> ScorpKing: nothing
[16:48] <Vermux> the path machine name@user dissapeared
[16:48] <ScorpKing> Vermux: hmm.. back at the :~$ ?
[16:48] <eagles0513875> im back finally back on my desktop
[16:48] <ScorpKing> Vermux: oh. you were root?
[16:48] <Vermux> ScorpKing: now
[16:48] <xt828> i went through this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and in step 5/6, when i run ./activeraid it tells me that o is an invalid option for dmraid
[16:48] <Vermux> yes
[16:48] <eagles0513875> my next headache is i have no sound what so ever
[16:49] <Vermux> ScorpKing: now Im back to the $
[16:49] <Vermux> ScorpKing: actually, #
[16:49] <ScorpKing> Vermux: ok. now adduser username
[16:50] <eagles0513875> xt828: in all honesty i have never setup raid in linux. i have with winblows and i know how it works but thats about it:(
[16:50] <Vermux> ScorpKing: it says it is already exists
[16:50] <xt828> ah, righto
[16:50] <eagles0513875> xt828: what was the setup u have right there
[16:50] <xt828> thanks for your help anyway
[16:50] <ScorpKing> Vermux: using deluser <name> ?
[16:50] <eagles0513875> xt828: if its a mirrored array u should be able to pull everything off from the vry first drive u r using if its striped or parity then i dunno what u goign to do then
[16:50] <Vermux> ScorpKing: yes
[16:51] <xt828> it's a raid 0, so striped
[16:51] <eagles0513875> let me see what i can find on google
[16:51] <eagles0513875> xt828: sry for not being much of a help im dealing with a bunch off issues i have never had before
[16:51] <ubuntu> hello
[16:52] <ScorpKing> Vermux: edit /etc/passwd , /etc/shadow , /etc/group , /etc/gshadow and remove everything of that user
[16:52] <Vermux> ScorpKing: when typing deluser it says removing user but nothing happans. then, I do ctrl C to get the # again
[16:52] <ubuntu> rename nub
[16:52] <Vermux> ScorpKing: edit is a command?
[16:52] <Vermux> ScorpKing: or I can use vim?
[16:52] <ScorpKing> no
[16:52] <Vermux> ok
[16:52] <ScorpKing> yes
[16:53] <eagles0513875> xt828: u still round might have found something that might come in handy but with a raid 1 array
[16:53] <eagles0513875> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4121578
[16:53] <reverend_joshua> i have the ntfs configuration tool installed but when i click on it, nothing happens
[16:53] <xt828> cheers, will take a look
[16:53] <eagles0513875> reverend_joshua: so u were able to download the ntfs-3g pkgs
[16:53] <reverend_joshua> yeah
[16:53] <eagles0513875> ok
[16:53] <eagles0513875> good
[16:53] <eagles0513875> no open up the shell
[16:54] <eagles0513875> *now
[16:54] <reverend_joshua> at least i think that's what i did
[16:54] <eagles0513875> reverend_joshua: there is one way to find out
[16:54] <eagles0513875> reverend_joshua: open up the shell and type in cd /etc
[16:54] <reverend_joshua> ok
[16:54] <eagles0513875> reverend_joshua: then kdesu kate fstab
[16:54] <unagi> can i make a new user account and install kde/gnome on it to try it out or will that affect my other users too
[16:55] <ScorpKing> unagi: it will affect all users
[16:55] <eagles0513875> unagi: u can install gnome all it will do is give all ur users the ability to try out gnome
[16:55] <unagi> oh
[16:55] <reverend_joshua> ok
[16:55] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing: am i right in what i said or not
[16:55] <eagles0513875> reverend_joshua: its opened right
[16:55] <reverend_joshua> yes
[16:55] <genii> unagi: When you for instance install a new window manager, it's menu items will usually appear for all users and not just one user.
[16:55] <unagi> nevermind then....i guess i COULD download kubuntu and try it on a live cd
[16:55] <ScorpKing> eagles0513875: about gnome? yes
[16:56] <eagles0513875> reverend_joshua: r u able to see the ntfs partition listed there
[16:56] <reverend_joshua> i need to remount it
[16:56] <eagles0513875> reverend_joshua: yep
[16:56] <intelikey> r u ???
[16:56] <eagles0513875> reverend_joshua: that should give u r/w access
[16:56] <Vermux> ScorpKing: ok, I removed everything
[16:57] <ScorpKing> Vermux: now adduser
[16:57] <intelikey> channel becomes more aol/yahoo 'ish every day.
[16:57] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing: u happen to know of any other issues with kubuntu and turion 64x2's
[16:57] <genii> intelikey: Well, at least he's helping :)
[16:57] <ScorpKing> eagles0513875: nope
[16:57] <Vermux> ScorpKing: ok, created
[16:57] <eagles0513875> intelikey: u happy to know of any known issues with kubuntu and amd turion x2
[16:57] <eagles0513875> cuz i have had a really tough time getting things to work
[16:57] <Vermux> ScorpKing: now reboot?
[16:57] <ScorpKing> Vermux: just check if it's in the admin group first
[16:58] <Vermux> ScorpKing: in /etc/group?
[16:58] <intelikey> eagles0513875 sorry i don't follow you there.    what are you asking exactly ?
[16:58] <Vermux> ScorpKing: the last line is username:x:1000:
[16:58] <ScorpKing> Vermux: just run adduser <you> admin - if it's there it will tell you
[16:59] <ScorpKing> Vermux: i hope that's not actually username ;)
[16:59] <reverend_joshua> still not letting me set write permissions
[16:59] <eagles0513875> intelikey: just to get kde desktop to work i have had to disable acpi and dma even just to get to the desktop on kde. r there any other things that i should be aware of
[16:59] <Vermux> ScorpKing: it says it added the user to group 'admin;
[17:00] <ScorpKing> Vermux: ok then. is the user you've added called username?
[17:00] <Vermux> ScorpKing: no
[17:00] <ScorpKing> hehe. reboot then
[17:00] <ScorpKing> or just type exit
[17:00] <intelikey> eagles0513875 that should just about cover it.    possably kernel frame buffering, if you are using ati vidio
[17:00] <Vermux> ok, but where do I check if it is in the admin group? which file?
[17:00] <ScorpKing> Vermux: /etc/group
[17:01] <ScorpKing> Vermux: grep admin /etc/group
[17:01] <intelikey> as that user type   groups
[17:01] <eagles0513875> intelikey: im using nvidia chipset on this laptop. i learned my lesson after the last one but then again im apprehensive of getting rid of winblows just incase WoW doesnt get good fram rates on here
[17:01] <ScorpKing> ty intelikey
[17:01] <eagles0513875> intelikey: http://www.howtoforge.com/access-linux-partitions-from-windows
[17:02]  * ScorpKing learned something new..
[17:02] <eagles0513875> thats nuts im goign to have to do that
[17:02] <ScorpKing> !ext
[17:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:02] <eagles0513875> !ext3 | ScorpKing
[17:02] <ubotu> ScorpKing: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[17:02] <Vermux> ScorpKing: ok, now it is 109
[17:02] <ScorpKing> eagles0513875: yeah thats the one
[17:03] <ScorpKing> :)
[17:03] <eagles0513875> can anyone help me with a no audio issue i have now that i can get to my desktop
[17:05] <intelikey> !sound
[17:05] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[17:05] <intelikey> the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting page might help
[17:06] <xt828> !dmraid
[17:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmraid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:06] <eagles0513875> xt828: hows it going
[17:06] <eagles0513875> intelikey: ty
[17:07] <xt828> not really getting anywhere
[17:08] <thomas_newbie__> Should I delete the Apache2-default directory from /var/www ?
[17:08] <reverend_joshua> when i click on the icon for ntfs config tool, it doesn't do anything
[17:08] <xt828> dmraid can find the raid sets
[17:08] <reverend_joshua> should i logoff/logon?
[17:08] <xt828> can't seem to mount them though
[17:09] <GuiBlanco> Which E-R modeler software do you suggest? Ferret is not good... do you suggest me another one?
[17:09] <genii> thomas_newbie__: It's not necessary to do so, but you can if you want to.
[17:09] <xt828> the raid sets are identified in /dev/mapper
[17:09] <thomas_newbie__> genii: not a security flaw? someone can access that folder and their files
[17:09] <eagles0513875> xt828: u might have to run fsck on em
[17:09] <xt828> mmm, yeah
[17:09] <eagles0513875> intelikey: i cant find my alsa driver on the alsa site
[17:10] <genii> thomas_newbie__: There's nothing inside it but the "It Works!" webpage
[17:10] <eagles0513875> intelikey: i have an nvidia mcp51 high def audio chipset
[17:10] <xt828> seems odd that they work in windows though
[17:10] <eagles0513875> xt828: u have duel boot
[17:10] <xt828> yeah
[17:10] <xt828> windows is only semifunctional though
[17:10] <eagles0513875> what u mean
[17:11] <xt828> the registry has a lot of issues
[17:11] <ScorpKing> !windows
[17:11] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[17:11] <ScorpKing> :)
[17:11] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing: lol
[17:11] <genii> Thanks ScorpKing
[17:11] <eagles0513875> xt828: ur name registered
[17:12] <xt828> with what?  ubuntu irc?
[17:12] <eagles0513875> xt828: ya
[17:12] <xt828> nope
[17:12] <BluesKaj> xt828, freenode server
[17:12] <eagles0513875> !register |xt828
[17:12] <ubotu> xt828: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[17:12] <eagles0513875> xt828: register so we could take the windows chat into a one on one
[17:13] <thomas_newbie__> How come when I try to search something in a Search engine in Konqueror it asks me to download the page or open in firefox??!
[17:13] <xt828> registered
[17:14] <_Vermux> ScorpKing: back to business
[17:15] <ScorpKing> _Vermux: everything working?
[17:15] <Vermux> ScorpKing: it says that mixer cannot be found
[17:16] <Vermux> ScorpKing: the litlle speaker icon
[17:16] <Vermux> has x on it
[17:16] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing: i have no audio what so ever
[17:16]  * ScorpKing doesn't know anything about audio..
[17:16] <BluesKaj> Vermux, cat /proc/asound/cards
[17:17] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: would that work for me i have no audio but nothing is muted what so ever
[17:17] <Vermux> BluesKaj:
[17:17] <Vermux> 0 [ICH5           ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH5
[17:17] <Vermux>                       Intel ICH5 with AD1985 at irq 22
[17:18] <ScorpKing> !paste
[17:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:18] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, try it , it'll just give a soundcard/controller name
[17:18] <jussi01> !intelhda | Vermux
[17:18] <ubotu> Vermux: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[17:18] <thomas_newbie__> anyone have a clue about my problem?
[17:19] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i know mine is an nvidia mcp51 chipset
[17:19] <BluesKaj> Vermux , asoundconf set-default-card "Intel ICH5"
[17:19] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: now im confused it says
[17:19] <eagles0513875>  0 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
[17:19] <eagles0513875>                       HDA NVidia at 0xc0000000 irq 22
[17:20] <eagles0513875> is my chipset an nvidia audio or intel audio
[17:20] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, don't worry about the chipset , it's the card you want it to recognize AFAIK
[17:21] <eagles0513875> so the card is afaik card
[17:21] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: would this help at all http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2013895
[17:21] <BluesKaj> AFAIK = As Far As I Know
[17:21] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: oh
[17:21] <Vermux> BluesKaj: doesnt work
[17:22] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: this is on a laptop i dont know if that would make a differencce
[17:22] <Vermux> BluesKaj: I just deleted and added the usrer and no sound now
[17:22] <GuiBlanco> Does anyone know how to get DBDesigner working in KUbuntu 7.10?
[17:22] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, asoundconf set-default-card "HDA NVidia"
[17:22] <eagles0513875> reboot afterward
[17:23] <Vermux> eagles0513875: me?
[17:23] <eagles0513875> Vermux: no
[17:23] <BluesKaj> Vermux,  k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture,click apply
[17:23] <thomas_newbie__> How come when I try to search something in a Search engine in Konqueror it asks me to download the page or open in firefox??!
[17:23] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: do i reboot after
[17:23] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, yes
[17:23] <eagles0513875> ok will do
[17:25] <Vermux> BluesKaj: ok, no change
[17:26] <BluesKaj> ok Vermux , this takes a few more steps , now :  in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key', then set the volume ctrls to 71%
[17:26] <Vermux> BluesKaj: why it is still restarting the sound
[17:27] <BluesKaj> Vermux, just exit that
[17:27] <Vermux> ok
[17:28] <home_> hello got a small keyboard problem :) changed the keyboard from qwertz to azerty when i am logged in i hqve the azerty board ( was able to change it) but when i got the logging screen i still have qwertz board  can someone tell me how to change it to azerty too plz ?
[17:29] <Vermux> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/m7ac14a6c
[17:30] <Vermux> BluesKaj: I get that when I type alsamixer
[17:31] <jimmy51_office> Could somebody recommend a fully kubuntu supported (2D, 3D) AGP video card in the $150 USD (or less) range that would be suitable for running 3D games?
[17:31] <BluesKaj> Vermux, you need to find and install the linux driver for your soundcard
[17:31] <jimmy51_office> my ATI headaches are just too much for my taste
[17:32] <intelikey> jimmy51_office i think intel has a few.   maybe look on the "supported hardware" page
[17:32] <reverend_joshua> can i can delete /media/hdb1 without effecting the drive if the drive is unmounted?
[17:32] <Vermux> BluesKaj: alsmixer?
[17:33] <intelikey> reverend_joshua yes.   don't use -r though, just in case something trys to automount it for you
[17:34] <Vermux> BluesKaj: how do I find and install the driver?
[17:34] <BluesKaj> no Vermux, you need to find out what make and model soundcard is installed on your pc/laptop , do an lspci in the terminal and look for "audio controller"
[17:35] <jimmy51_office> intelikey:  is that at kubuntu.org?  i'm not seeing it
[17:35] <BluesKaj> Vermux, then do a search for the soundcard's linux drivers
[17:36] <Vermux> BluesKaj: in Intel's web site?
[17:36] <Vermux> BluesKaj: Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[17:37] <Vermux> can I download the driver directly from Intel web site or only from Adept_manager?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> Vermux, cool first try this in the terminal: asoundconf set-default-card "Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER"
[17:38] <BluesKaj> Vermux, then try 'alsamixer' in the terminal
[17:38] <Vermux> BluesKaj: just did that
[17:38] <Vermux> nothing
[17:39] <BluesKaj> reboot
[17:39] <Vermux> BluesKaj: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[17:39] <Vermux> me?
[17:39] <BluesKaj> yup
[17:39] <Vermux> ok, sec
[17:40] <home_> hello got a small keyboard problem :) changed the keyboard from qwertz to azerty when i am logged in i have the azerty board ( was able to change it) but when i got the logging screen i still have qwertz board  can someone tell me how to change it to azerty too plz ?
[17:42] <Max_-> Hi, I've installed Kubuntu on /dev/sdb1 and now grub won't load it... but it can load PCLOS on /dev/sda... I'm on the Kubuntu LiveCD, how do I fix this?
[17:43] <Vermux> BluesKaj: all this time I was in safe mode
[17:43] <computahuser> I'm having kubuntu boot trouble, am I in the right place?
[17:44] <Vermux> No command arguments supplied!
[17:44] <Vermux> Usage: kdesudo [-u <runas>] <command>
[17:44] <Vermux> KdeSudo will now exit..
[17:44] <Vermux> BluesKaj:  ok, I rebooted
[17:44] <BluesKaj> ok alsamixer ?
[17:45] <Vermux> BluesKaj: the same error
[17:45] <Vermux> BluesKaj: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[17:46] <matteo> hi all
[17:46] <reverend_joshua> !ntfs-3g
[17:46] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[17:46] <matteo> my ubuntu won't mount usb driver in d3lphin or konqueror
[17:46] <matteo> but I can do it with pmount
[17:46] <matteo> how can I fix it?
[17:46] <matteo> A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal")
[17:47] <BluesKaj> Vermux, try this in the terminal one more time : asoundconf set-default-card "Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER"
[17:47] <Vermux> BluesKaj: ok
[17:47] <Vermux> BluesKaj: I did that
[17:47] <Vermux> BluesKaj: now, rreboot?
[17:48] <BluesKaj> now choose alsa in the systemsettings /sound system
[17:48] <Vermux> BluesKaj: I dont have that, I have autodetect
[17:49] <BluesKaj> Vermux, change it
[17:49] <computahuser> I'm not able to boot into Kubuntu 98% of the time. Once it boots it's fine. I have installed it but I'm having trouble getting past the boot phase. I get the error "kernel direct mapping tables up to 1000000000 @ 8000-d000"
[17:49] <Vermux> to what?
[17:49] <Vermux> BluesKaj: it is set to advanced linux...
[17:49] <BluesKaj> advanced linux sound architecture + alsa
[17:49] <reverend_joshua> i have installed the NTFS config tool but when i click on it, it does nothing
[17:49] <BluesKaj> err =
[17:50] <Vermux> BluesKaj: I dont have alsa in the list
[17:50] <BluesKaj> bummer
[17:51] <Vermux> ?
[17:51] <BluesKaj> 'alsa' means 'advanced linux sound architecture'
[17:51] <Vermux> heheh
[17:51] <Vermux> ok
[17:52] <Vermux> it is till not working
[17:52] <Vermux> can I download the driver from intel web site?
[17:52] <BluesKaj> not finished yet
[17:52] <BluesKaj> yes  Vermux , try that
[17:52] <Vermux> how do I check again my card type?
[17:53] <BluesKaj> lspci
[17:54] <pirko> Hi all, I've just installed kubuntu 7.10 from USB according to http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/. During installation everything went fine. But now when booting from harddisk it freeze for o three minutes aproximate and then goes to recovery mode. Any idea what could be wrong?
[17:58] <Vermux> BluesKaj: cant find it in Intel
[18:03] <Vermux> BluesKaj: ok, I found the file from Asus. do I open it with the Ark?
[18:03] <Vermux> BluesKaj: Ive never installed a driver in linux
[18:04] <BluesKaj>  what's the file extension ?
[18:05] <Vermux> dows anybody know how to install a driver in kubuntu?
[18:05] <Vermux> zip
[18:05] <Vermux> BluesKaj: ^
[18:06] <BluesKaj> Vermux, that's not a linux driver . that's windows
[18:07] <Vermux> in the Ark it shows tar.bz2
[18:07] <BluesKaj> Vermux, tar.gz or tar.bz2 or .run  or .bin or even a deb file , but not zip in linux
[18:07] <Vermux> BluesKaj: what do I do?
[18:07] <ozziuss> hi
[18:07] <Vermux> it showed zip
[18:07] <BluesKaj> make sure you download the linux driver
[18:07] <Vermux> it is
[18:07] <BluesKaj> ?
[18:08] <Vermux> the question is what to do? just open the file or I have to use adept_manager?
[18:08] <ozziuss> i've got a problem. "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" << how to solve it?
[18:08] <BluesKaj> then try ark
[18:08] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix | ozziuss
[18:08] <ubotu> ozziuss: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:08] <razor__> s
[18:08] <BluesKaj> I have to go do some stuff..BB in an hr
[18:09] <genii> ozziuss: Before trying the aptfix ensure you do not have multiple windows open with a package manager. Also that a scheduled update is not going on
[18:11] <ozziuss> ubotu thx. it works.
[18:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx. it works. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:11] <Vermux> BluesKaj: I have no idea which file to click on. which file is equivalent to .exe or set up.exe in win?
[18:12] <ozziuss> ok i got to go. thx a lot :)
[18:12] <pirko> it seems after installation there are no /dev/sd* files and that's why kubuntu cannot start
[18:13] <pirko> any idea how could it happen?
[18:13] <pirko> and how to repair it?
[18:15] <tuxi> hi
[18:15] <tuxi> anyone noticed that after installing a plain gusty adept tries to upgrade the distribution?
[18:16] <linux__> i dont have sound in kubuntu7.10
[18:16] <linux__> soundcard realtek
[18:16] <linux__> what i need to do
[18:17] <tuxi> have you put up the volume in sound manager?
[18:17] <linux__> yes, volume on 100
[18:17] <genii> pirko: You installed to an sdX device, namely the usb drive. The grub settings on your internal hd are looking for a drive which likely you have unplugged or similar situation.
[18:18] <tuxi> look in kmix if all the mixers are up
[18:18] <linux__> all up
[18:19] <pirko> genii: I installed on harddisk from USB
[18:19] <pirko> yes the usb is now unplugged
[18:19] <tuxi> please make an lspci and paste result
[18:19] <tuxi> or upload to nopaste
[18:19] <tuxi> execute in konsole as root
[18:20] <pirko> genii: but if I plug the usb back nothing new happens, I can start to recovery mode and ls /dev/sd* gives nothing
[18:20] <genii> pirko: The link you gave earlier is not for installing to hard disk from usb. Perhaps you gave the wrong link
[18:22] <genii> pirko: eg: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[18:22] <linux__> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[18:22] <linux__> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)
[18:22] <linux__> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[18:22] <linux__> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
[18:22] <genii> pirko: That is to install ubuntu onto a usb drive or stick. Not the other way around
[18:22] <linux__> 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02)
[18:22] <linux__> 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 02)
[18:23] <linux__> 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
[18:23] <linux__> 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
[18:23] <linux__> 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
[18:23] <sui> linux__: wuah... stop spamming
[18:23] <linux__> 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
[18:23] <pirko> genii: yes I now it's not primary for installation on harddisk, but I used this to create bootable flash disk and then I run the installation from it.
[18:23] <linux__> 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
[18:23] <linux__> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2)
[18:23] <linux__> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
[18:23] <linux__> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 02)
[18:23] <linux__> 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 02)
[18:23] <linux__> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [GeForce Go 7400] (rev a1)
[18:23] <Datalanche> That's easy to follow
[18:23] <linux__> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
[18:23] <Datalanche> ;p
[18:23] <linux__> 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[18:23] <linux__> 07:03.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
[18:23] <linux__> 07:03.1 Generic system peripheral [0805]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 19)
[18:23] <linux__> 07:03.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 01)
[18:23] <linux__> 07:03.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 0a)
[18:23] <linux__> 07:03.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 05)
[18:25] <jpatrick> !paste | linux__
[18:25] <ubotu> linux__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:25] <jpatrick> linux__: please do not do that
[18:26] <pirko> genii: you think that I install whole the system on that small flash and on my harddisk there is only grub loaded?
[18:30] <genii> pirko: I think whats happening is that when grub updated it included the ditribution which resides on the usb stick as the saved default to load first. When not found it eventually falls back through to recovery mode
[18:30] <pirko> genii:aha so the system is installed but the grub doesn't knwo where it is?
[18:31] <genii> pirko: Also the scenario you say is possible. That the hd only has grub and no actual linux
[18:31] <genii> pirko: Either of the two situations are possible.
[18:31] <pirko> genii:cool :-(, if the first scenario happened is there any way how to say grub wher may system is?
[18:32] <pirko> genii: *where my system is...
[18:34] <genii> pirko: Yes, when in console of Recovery mode, do: sudo fdisk -l     and see what drive it says is Linux. eg: /dev/hda1 or so likely since you said there were no /dev/sdX devices
[18:35] <genii> pirko: Then edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst   file to replace where it has the usb drive specified, sda1 or such
[18:36] <genii> pirko: Actually no sudo is needed, since in Recovery mode. Just a habit on my part to put it.
[18:36] <pirko> genii: ok I'll try it when it starts again, but what confuses me is that there is only one sata disk inside pc and i see ntohing like /dev/sda :-(
[18:37] <genii> pirko: If the sata hard drive controller is set in the bios to something like "Compatability" it will seem to Linux that the sata drive is an pata (regular ide drive) and it will use hda instead of sda
[18:38] <eddymrking> bonjour a tous
[18:38] <eddymrking> comment ont fais pour installer amsn
[18:38] <eddymrking> sur linux
[18:38] <eddymrking> ?
[18:39] <pirko> genii: fdisk -l says: /bin/sh: fdisk: not found
[18:39] <pirko> genii: there are also no /dev/hd* devices
[18:40] <nuno> hey i need some help
[18:40] <genii> pirko: Then we know now that the second thing is what has ahppened
[18:40] <pirko> genii: may be I amo not realy in recovery console? The prompt looks like (initramfs)
[18:40] <genii> *happened
[18:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[18:40] <nuno> can someone help me? xD
[18:40] <MilhousePunkRock> I recently upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy... Now the Konqueror mouse gestures don't work anymore :(
[18:41] <nuno> I need the intel pro wireless 3945ABG driver but i am a linux noob and i cant compile it xD
[18:41] <pirko> genii: aha (initramfs) means that I am working only in RAM? hmm cool
[18:42] <jussi01> nuno: it should be installed by default
[18:42] <nuno> jussi01 , it doesnt work
[18:42] <pirko> genii: now I'll try to boot from usb again to see what's with my harddisk - to be sure that the secon scenario happened
[18:43] <nuno> It cant connect to my access point
[18:44] <genii> pirko: The initial ramdisk which loads somewhere off your hd cannot determine where the operating system is, or else the driver needed to understand the hard disk controller is not provided in the file initrd so it fails and dumps you to a fake shell (busybox)
[18:44] <jussi01> nuno: try in terminal: sudo modprobe ipw3945
[18:44] <nuno> jussi01: kay
[18:45] <nuno> ERROR: Cant find Intel Pro Wireless Connection
[18:45] <pirko> genii: yeah that's my situation, now it do the same when trying to boot from USB :-(
[18:45] <nuno> It isnt detecting it proprelly
[18:46] <pirko> genii: any more advices what can I do next?
[18:47] <genii> pirko: Why did you try install from usb... no cdrom on that computer?
[18:47] <pirko> genii: exactly there is no optical mechanic, it's ibm x61s
[18:48] <genii> pirko: Does the usb stick boot as expected, into linux?
[18:49] <pirko> genii: yes it shows the first screen, when I select start live it fails to busybox
[18:49] <genii> pirko: Work requires me but I have not abandoned you, expect some lag please
[18:50] <pirko> genii: ok, thanks
[18:50] <Max_-> I need to allow root to login in KDE *now*, anyone knows the trick?
[18:50] <Max_-> I've created a password and can use it in a shell
[18:51] <nuno> I need help again x_x
[18:51] <jussi01> nuno: hi
[18:52] <tim8> i'm having problem with hp LJ 1080 printer, what should i do?
[18:52] <jussi01> nuno: quick question, is the switch to turn wireless on, actually on? (if you have one)
[18:52] <nuno> Yes
[18:53] <sub[t]rnl> Max_: kcontrol -> system administration -> login manager
[18:53] <nuno> KNetworkManager doesnt detect it
[18:53] <jussi01> nuno: sorry, happens all the time with people...
[18:53] <nuno> I belive but what should i do?
[18:53] <tim8> can someone help me with configering my printer HP LJ 1080?
[18:54] <jussi01> nuno: is it detected if you type ifconfig into the terminal?
[18:54] <nuno> wait ill see
[18:54] <jussi01> !repeat | tim8
[18:54] <ubotu> tim8: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[18:54] <bipolar> Max_-: under the 'Users' tab, you need to change the 'Below' number to 0. note that this will show all the system users in the system, unless you specificly hide them.
[18:55] <tim8>  can someone help me with configering my printer HP LJ 1080?
[18:55] <nuno> it only detects the ethernet and the loopback local
[18:55] <jussi01> tim8: did you neot see the note from the bot?
[18:55] <tim8> bot??
[18:55] <jussi01> nuno: ok, Im not sure of it then. Im sorry.
[18:55] <jussi01> tim8: ubotu
[18:56] <bipolar> Max_-: also, I'm sure there is a better way to do whatever you need to do as root without running your entire kde session as root.
[18:56] <nuno> Its weird cuz it detected it like yesterday
[18:56] <tim8> sorry 4 that
[18:56] <jussi01> nuno: actually, do you use windows at all?
[18:56] <nuno> im using dual-boot
[18:56] <nuno> kubuntu-XP
[18:57] <jussi01> nuno: have you booted into windows recently?
[18:57] <nuno> i installed kubuntu yesterday
[18:57] <nuno> and i didnt boot in windows yet
[18:58] <nuno> only kubuntu
[18:58] <Max_-> bipolar: I'm trying to use k3b to burn a cd using the LiveCD... it was going to work but k3b said it didn't have the rights to do I don't remember what... so I thought if root started it it would work
[18:58] <jussi01> nuno: try this, it _may_ work, go into windows, use the wireless card, then shut down correctly. its weird I know, but it helped with someone I know.
[18:58] <nuno> Ill try
[18:58] <cathrine> i have searched and read, but i need to ask: what is the right way of installing flash on kubuntu 7.10 today?
[18:58] <jussi01> !flash | cathrine
[18:58] <ubotu> cathrine: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:58] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[18:59] <bipolar> Max_-: from the livecd?
[18:59] <Max_-> yes
[18:59] <bipolar> Max_-: you have 2 cdrom drives?
[18:59] <nuno> But it worked yesterday , today i changed something and now the KNetworkManager says: Manual Network configuration
[18:59] <Max_-> nope, but loading k3b before ejecting looked like a good idea to me...
[18:59] <cathrine> ubotu: do you know when the official fix will come?
[18:59] <Michi> !german
[18:59] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:59] <jussi01> !bot | cathrine
[18:59] <ubotu> cathrine: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:59] <bipolar> Max_-: I don't *think* so... but it's been a while since I ran a livecd
[19:00] <bipolar> Max_-: I don't think you can safely eject the cdrom, and I beleve it's locked while you're running it.
[19:00] <jussi01> cathrine: we dont know for sure, sorry, i beleive its dependant on adobe.
[19:00] <^TheCrono> Hello
[19:00] <bipolar> Max_-: otherwise the entire system would have to load into RAM
[19:00] <nuno> jussi01
[19:00] <Max_-> bipolar: yes, it's locked but using eject in konsole does the job... well you're probably right, it won't work
[19:00] <nuno> it worked yesterday , today i changed something and now the KNetworkManager says: Manual Network configuration
[19:00] <jussi01> nuno: ?
[19:01] <jussi01> nuno: ahhh
[19:01] <nuno> Maybe its because of that?
[19:01] <^TheCrono> How newer is the current version of kubuntu than ubuntu 5.10?
[19:01] <jussi01> nuno: very likely. go change back whatever you changed...
[19:01] <nuno> Erm...
[19:02] <llutz__> ^TheCrono: 2 yrs
[19:02] <^TheCrono> Wow
[19:02] <^TheCrono> Its been that long sence i tried it.
[19:02] <jussi01> ^TheCrono: lots... 5.10 = 2005 - 10 (oct) 7.10 = 2007 - 10 (oct)
[19:02] <genii> pirko: So to answer "does the usb stick boot to linux" , it does not boot into linux, but into again the busybox, correct?
[19:02] <pirko> genii: correct it boots to busybox
[19:03] <^TheCrono> Is kubuntu the best distro for someone who knwos squat about the technical side of things? I had ubuntu before, and i lov3ed it, but getting soem things setup properly was beyond my ability.
[19:03] <genii> pirko: OK. You used originally another desktop/laptop computer with linux to make the usb stick?
[19:03] <^TheCrono> So i went back to windows
[19:03] <^TheCrono> but now i want to try again. :d
[19:04] <pirko> genii: sure I made it on my PC
[19:05] <nuno> I will try to boot on windows
[19:05] <pirko> genii: just a note, because I was little bit lazy I didn't follow the article exactly and I just mounted the downloaded iso Instead of dionf things from live cd
[19:06] <genii> pirko: OK. We do not have with just the laptop and the usb stick enough tools to repair the problem. So the options seem: Create another usb stick somehow which is actually valid. or: Use PXE boot to install, from the other computer thru thernet cord onto the problemmatic one.
[19:07] <^TheCrono> I have a ubuntu 5.10 cd, should i install it then update and get kde, or is it better to just get kubuntu latest?
[19:07] <genii> pirko: I would recommend the PXE way if the laptop is capable of booting from network
[19:09] <pirko> genii: PXE? I haven't heard about it, but the laptop is capable to boot from network
[19:10] <ForgeAus> thas what PXE is
[19:10] <ForgeAus> pre-execution environment
[19:10] <Daviey> pirko: PXE is booting from the network
[19:10] <genii> pirko: Good.
[19:11] <ForgeAus> BartPE is one way I think at least XP does has another way but not sure how to make it...
[19:11] <pirko> genii:definitely i found it on google, bu i've no experiences, so if can you can guide step by step i apprecieate
[19:11] <ForgeAus> assuming you want to boot into Windows that is
[19:11] <ForgeAus> Chrono I'd recommend getting kubuntu but it is a big download...
[19:11] <Daviey> pirko: If you find a guide for setting dhcp boot params on a win 2000 box - do let me know!
[19:12]  * Daviey is a windows noob
[19:12] <ForgeAus> its probably easier to install the kubuntu-desktop package and remove the ubuntu-desktop package lol
[19:12] <ForgeAus> as long as you keep ubuntu-minimal along the way :)
[19:12] <genii> pirko: Instead I will give you a good website to follow and be around here for guidance
[19:13] <genii> pirko: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[19:13] <pirko> genii: fine thanks a lot, I will try my best :-)
[19:13] <ForgeAus> KDE is nice, I havn't found Gnome any good for me at all....
[19:13] <genii> pirko: np  any questions just bring them to my attention
[19:14] <theTheme> Hey I'm having a problem with my external hard drive.  I accidently turned it off while it was working and now I can't get it to mount.  It mounts in windows fine, but not kubuntu.  I can give the error message if someone can tell me how to use paste bin
[19:16] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | the theTheme
[19:16] <ubotu> the theTheme: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:16] <earthcreed> theTheme:  Since you have it on windows, plug it in and then "safely remove"  This should make it mountable again.
[19:16] <pirko> genii: regarding the netkit-inted package I can choose one of those: inetutils-inetd 2:1.5.dfsg.1-4 openbsd-inetd 0.20050402-6, does it matter which one?
[19:17] <theTheme> thanks BluesKaj here's the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53068/ Is there some way I can force it to mount?
[19:18] <genii> !info netkit-inetd
[19:18] <ubotu> Package netkit-inetd does not exist in gutsy
[19:18] <genii> bah
[19:18] <pirko> netkid-inetd is metapackage
[19:18] <BluesKaj> theTheme, I think earthcreed may have a fix..read above
[19:18] <pirko> so which of real packages?
[19:19] <genii> pirko: inetutils-inetd
[19:19] <theTheme> earthcreed: Hey, I did that a few times, but still get the same message
[19:19] <^TheCrono> Is a 5GB partition big enough for the kubuntu system?..leavign the otehr 75gb partition for doze/apps?
[19:19] <theTheme> BluesKaj: Thanks, I didn't see that
[19:21] <tuxi> ^TheCrono, i would suggest at least 10gig
[19:22] <^TheCrono> Hrm, that is a large chunk i guess, ltos of uninstaling to play games. But it would work.
[19:23] <sub[t]rnl> ^TheCrono➜ A 5 gig partition for / is plenty.  The base linux system won't even come close to that mark for quite some time.  The majority of the partition should be given to /home.
[19:24] <^TheCrono> Heres a question, do i need to refort my entier drive?
[19:24] <mani213> how do i get mirc for linx?
[19:24] <^TheCrono> reformat*
[19:24] <thomas_> mani213: you dont
[19:24] <^TheCrono> Most distros come with it mani
[19:25] <mani213> so how do i download
[19:25] <tuxi> mani213, try xchat
[19:25] <mani213> stuff off mirc?
[19:25] <mani213> is it the same as mirc
[19:25] <mani213> to download stuff?
[19:25] <thomas_> mani213: konversation is quite good to
[19:25] <tuxi> it supports xdcc as far as i know
[19:26] <BluesKaj> yes, konversation does dcc etc etc
[19:26] <^TheCrono> Because i was jsut thinking of makeing a 5GB partition, and leaving the rest alone.
[19:26] <mani213> when i go on irc site to search
[19:26] <mani213> it doesnt paste
[19:26] <mani213> the file and open the chat room:S
[19:26] <mani213> like internet explore
[19:27] <^TheCrono> I wish my problems were this simple. Lol
[19:27] <BluesKaj> ^TheCrono, seperate /home partition ?
[19:27] <^TheCrono> I guess that is what i am talking about Blues
[19:27] <^TheCrono> There will be a total of two partitions.
[19:27] <^TheCrono> 1 with linux, 1 with doze/apps/data
[19:28] <^TheCrono> Do i need to reformat the second partition with doze/apps/data?
[19:28] <mani213> whats the compiz room called?
[19:28] <BluesKaj> ^TheCrono, do you have a windows partition now ?
[19:28] <^TheCrono> Yes, i'm cutting the Linux oen from that.
[19:29] <^TheCrono> I need Windows for several Games.
[19:29] <^TheCrono> And VB
[19:29] <ForgeAus> try #Compiz
[19:29] <pirko> genii: dhcpd failed to start
[19:29] <jussi01> mani213: #compiz-fusion
[19:29] <ForgeAus> actually it directed me to #compiz-fusion
[19:29] <ForgeAus> yeah Jussi :) thats the one
[19:30] <jussi01> :)
[19:30] <jussi01> !compiz > ForgeAus
[19:30] <pirko> genii: and can't find the apropriate log, in messages, the re is no error :-(
[19:30] <BluesKaj> right, then use bootable GParted Live CD partition editor to do the resizing and ext3-linux formatting for you ...you can download and burn it
[19:30] <^TheCrono> It really all depends on what Wine can run..if it can run everything, i won't even need windows.
[19:30] <ForgeAus> hehe you didn't need to send me that jussi
[19:30] <ForgeAus> nothing new there
[19:31] <^TheCrono> How big is the entier Kubuntu distro?
[19:31] <BluesKaj> ^TheCrono, did you see the above about Gparted ?
[19:31] <ForgeAus> oh a few odd hundred meg like about 7 or so
[19:31] <^TheCrono> Yes.
[19:32] <^TheCrono> I want to burn the distro onto a cd, but i only got cdrw
[19:32] <^TheCrono> Will one cd do it?
[19:32] <ForgeAus> yes
[19:32] <SlimeyPete> yes, one cd will do it
[19:32] <ForgeAus> theres a LiveCD of the distro
[19:32] <^TheCrono> And does the distro come with this Gparted?
[19:32] <ForgeAus> purpose built to fit on a CD lol
[19:32] <borncrazy> hi
[19:32] <thomas_> ejp
[19:32] <thomas_> jep
[19:32] <ForgeAus> no
[19:33] <ForgeAus> it comes with QTparted
[19:33] <jussi01> thomas_: ??
[19:33] <^TheCrono> Is that any better/worse?
[19:33] <ForgeAus> ubuntu comes with gparted
[19:33] <thomas_> same
[19:33] <borncrazy> when i plug my usb memory in the usb port nothing happens
[19:33] <ForgeAus> its a matter of preference the backend is the same
[19:33] <BluesKaj> ^TheCrono, well I'm using about 14G , but i have quite a few apps installed and if you like to save video media etc on your drive then I'd suggest aminimum of 30-40G for Linux
[19:33] <ForgeAus> (both are pretty much just glossy views of the parted commandline tool at some level)
[19:34] <^TheCrono> Nah,my computer is msotly for Games and Music...most of my music is in Mp3 format, unless its sampels, but ive only about a gig of those.
[19:34] <ForgeAus> Crono its built into the installer too
[19:34] <theTheme> Ok, so i've been tinkering with it for a little bit, and my external hard drive doesn't show up (sdb1) in fstab, is that the reason I can't mount it and how do I fix it?
[19:34] <borncrazy> do i need to mount it manually?   if  the answer is yes i would like to know how i do that.
[19:34] <^TheCrono> That is another reason i need windows, for my DAW, but, i have been looking at what seems to be a nice Linux DAW i may switch to.
[19:35] <jussi01> !ubuntustudio | ^TheCrono
[19:35] <ubotu> ^TheCrono: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org
[19:35] <ForgeAus> whats a DAW?
[19:35] <^TheCrono> Then, the only reason i need windows is for..um..i dunno, simcity 4 heh
[19:35] <ForgeAus> IC
[19:35] <^TheCrono> Digital Audio Workstation..like Fruityloops or Cubase
[19:35] <ForgeAus> hehe fruityloops :) loved that program ...
[19:35] <ForgeAus> havn't used it for a while tho
[19:35] <^TheCrono> I use it now
[19:36] <jussi01> ^TheCrono: I suggest seriously you have a look at ubuntu studio
[19:36] <^TheCrono> Is ubuntu studio a hwole nother distro or jsut a package collection? [I'm kinda a noob on all this]
[19:36] <anton_> How do I use a USB-memorystick in kubuntu?
[19:36] <Daviey> anton_: try inserting it
[19:37] <ftalon> I just installed the nvidia driver, and now im stuck in 1024x768 resolution, how can I make it go to 1600x1200 like it was before I installed this driver?
[19:37] <anton_> Yeah, and what is next step?
[19:37] <jussi01> ^TheCrono: have a look at what the bot said a moment ago...
[19:37] <^TheCrono> ko
[19:38] <BluesKaj> ^TheCrono , check out Ardour (audio processor) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardour_%28audio_processor%29
[19:38] <BluesKaj> ubuntu studio is a distro yes
[19:38] <^TheCrono> Ardour is what i was looking at before
[19:39] <andrew_> hello all
[19:40] <borncrazy> so, can anyone help me?
[19:40] <ForgeAus> born I don't know much about USB in *nix sorry
[19:40] <awag22> i just installed a new motherboard, and i'm using the same ide drives, but now my harddrives show up as sda1 and sdb1 isntead of hda1 and hdb1... i thought sda* was only for scsi stuff
[19:41] <borncrazy> when i plu my usb meomry in the usb port nothing happens. do i need to mount it manually? if the answer is yes i would like to know how i do that. :p
[19:41] <jussi01> !tab > ForgeAus
[19:41] <pirko> genii: ok I am prepared, but dhcpd still not run :-(
[19:41] <borncrazy> ForgeAus: okay
[19:41] <llutz> borncrazy: pmount /dev/<device>
[19:41] <anton_> Borncrazy, see Kubuntu-se ! I've got an answer for you there
[19:41] <BluesKaj> awag22, does everything work ok ?
[19:41] <awag22> BluesKaj: yeah :)
[19:42] <awag22> just makes me uneasy
[19:42] <ging> halló ég er ging
[19:42] <borncrazy> borncrazy: okay :)
[19:42] <ForgeAus> I already knew about tab completion jussi, I simply don't use it
[19:42] <borncrazy> i mean anton_
[19:42] <anton_> Hehe
[19:42] <jussi01> ForgeAus: ok, but it makes things much easier on people if you do...
[19:42] <ForgeAus> not that I havn't given it a go before
[19:42] <BluesKaj> awag22, then don't worry about it ...my hda switched to sda when I tried mepis ,,then back to hda when I returned to kubuntu
[19:43] <awag22> BluesKaj: ok thanks, is there a command line command that shows ide devices that are connected even if they aren't mounted?
[19:43] <ForgeAus> lol Blues, Mepis thought it was something like a Sata or Raid or SCSI device
[19:44] <BluesKaj> awag22, dmesg | grep hd
[19:45] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, mepis was ok , but a bit lame
[19:45] <ForgeAus> yeah I think I breifly tried it
[19:45] <pirko> hey anyone knows how to figure otu why /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start fails on 7.10 or at elast how to find it out?
[19:45] <ForgeAus> Kubuntu still comes out ontop in my list of fav distros
[19:45] <^TheCrono> So, i'm getting kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[19:45] <^TheCrono> that's it?
[19:46] <anton_> Hmm, you got 2 install it 2
[19:46] <^TheCrono> Of courswe.
[19:46] <^TheCrono> :D
[19:46] <anton_> Heh :D
[19:46] <anton_> How is your hardware?
[19:46] <^TheCrono> Mine?
[19:46] <anton_> Yeah
[19:46] <^TheCrono> Well, will i be killed for a system script?
[19:47] <^TheCrono> Its ok i guess, though
[19:47] <anton_> Maybee you should got alternative-cd if yoy got bad RAM.
[19:47] <^TheCrono> i got 1.5gb ddr
[19:47] <^TheCrono> is that enough?
[19:47] <anton_> Ah, okej. Ofc!
[19:47] <^TheCrono> 2.5ghz celeron
[19:47] <^TheCrono> ati x1300 256
[19:47] <^TheCrono> and an 80gb HD
[19:47] <anton_> Yeah, use the normal Kubuntu 7.10, dont need alternative-cd
[19:47] <pirko> ok my dhcp won't start because: No subnet declaration for eth1 (192.168.1.15)
[19:48] <anton_> Okej, 've you usd any linuxdist before?
[19:48] <^TheCrono> does ubuntu still mail out 5-10 cd packets?
[19:48] <^TheCrono> Ive used ubuntu 5.10
[19:48] <pirko> I'm not experienced in dhcpd, please somebody give me a hint, what should i do
[19:48] <jpatrick> ^TheCrono: yes, via shipit see topic
[19:48] <anton_> Ah, okej..
[19:48] <anton_> Why not download?
[19:48] <^TheCrono> man, 5.10 was a pain in the butt
[19:48] <^TheCrono> I am downloading
[19:49] <^TheCrono> i was jsut cruious.
[19:49] <anton_> Okey, aah, okey!
[19:49] <^TheCrono> I also used knoppix
[19:49] <anton_> ok
[19:49] <^TheCrono> from the same era as ubuntu 5.10
[19:49] <Vermux> who can help me?
[19:49] <anton_> Okay
[19:49] <anton_> With?
[19:49] <BluesKaj> kubuntu didn't really catch my fancy til dapper
[19:49] <Vermux> when I do log out , Im getting a black screen with messages
[19:49] <^TheCrono> I'ma need help on partition stuff later though
[19:50] <anton_> Okey, are you gona use Windows 2?
[19:51] <fireknight> salve
[19:51] <BluesKaj> ^TheCrono, make sure you keep windows where it is as first partition , shrink it to whatever you need then reformat the remainder to ext3 and maybe a 2G linux swap file at the end
[19:51] <anton_> Make sure you got at least 2 partions, so you can but kubuntu on one and i you use windows you can choose witch one to boot in GRUB as starts automaticly when computer starts.
[19:52] <fireknight> qualcuno che parla italiano?
[19:52] <anton_> Nope, no italiano here
[19:52] <thomas_> !it
[19:52] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:52] <fireknight> grazie
[19:52] <SlimeyPete> Vermux: what messages?
[19:53] <thomas_newbie__> If I want to use my apache server to hose a forum, should I encode it, or get like a template?
[19:53] <^TheCrono> Hopefully, if all things can work in kubuntu i won't need windows..and well..mission complete! :D
[19:53] <SlimeyPete> thomas_newbie__: encode? you mean code?
[19:53] <thomas_newbie__> SlimeyPete: yea
[19:53] <^TheCrono> Depends how good Wine is.
[19:53] <^TheCrono> Wine was garbage when i tried it before.
[19:53] <thomas_> thomas_newbie__: yeah encode it ;)
[19:53] <SlimeyPete> thomas_newbie__: normal thing to do is grab something like phpBB I think, no point coding your own if you don't have to
[19:54] <thomas_newbie__> SlimeyPete: ok so you think phpBB is best
[19:54] <BluesKaj> dunno about games on wine ...some ppl here think it's ok
[19:54] <SlimeyPete> dunno about "best" but it's popular
[19:54] <thomas_> BluesKaj: some are ok other aren't
[19:54] <ForgeAus> whether you like wine or not depends on your needs
[19:55] <Vermux_> when I try to log out from kubuntu Im getting a text screen with messages
[19:55] <^TheCrono> i mainly need to know about WoW/Simcity 4..and GTASA
[19:55] <ForgeAus> erm TheCrono sounds like you might have trouble then
[19:55] <SlimeyPete> Vermux: what messages?
[19:55] <Vermux_> starting K Display manager: kdm
[19:55] <^TheCrono> Whcih is why i am keeping windows jsut incase.
[19:55] <Vermux_> in the middle of the screen there is the following message: nn: /etc/rc2.d/s20powernowd: 156: cannot create /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0//cpufreq/scaling_governor:derectory non existent
[19:56] <Vermux_> cpu frequency scaling not supported
[19:56] <^TheCrono> wow, halflife 2 is on the platnum list
[19:56] <^TheCrono> runs perfectly.
[19:56] <Vermux_> then it keeps showing some more messages and says there are ok
[19:56] <ForgeAus> I always thought it was strange that they made a halflife 2
[19:56] <ForgeAus> wouldn't that be a full life?
[19:57] <^TheCrono> Lol
[19:57] <SlimeyPete> Vermux: does the login screen not re-appear?
[19:57] <^TheCrono> Looks like simcity 4 will be a windows app from now on...unelss it gets better support
[19:57] <Vermux_> Lovecraft: SlimeyPete no
[19:58] <ForgeAus> hehe Crono its not better support from wine that it needs its just more compatibility probaly means it was poorly coded to begin with lol
[19:58] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: no
[19:58] <ForgeAus> (well more aptly said that it was coded for windows never really meant to run in Linux in the first place)
[19:58] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, or 1/4 life :)
[19:59] <^TheCrono> Well, simcity and simctiy 3k work under unix anyways..i hope they fix that for 4
[19:59] <ForgeAus> Blues, thats halfing a halflife
[19:59] <pirko> genii: are u still here?
[19:59] <ForgeAus> that would be halflife 0.5 :)
[19:59] <SlimeyPete> Vermux_: well, the powernowd thing shouldn't be causing the problem. Are there any other messages?
[19:59] <rotini> hello all.  In KDE's System Settings it's possible to control services.  Is that a reliable way to do it?
[19:59] <^TheCrono> Though, there is a linux Simcity clone, but imho not very good right now.
[19:59] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: cpu frequency is not supported
[20:00] <ForgeAus> yeah lincity isn't really a substitute I'd recommend
[20:00] <SlimeyPete> ^TheCrono: there are two now. Lincity and Metropolis (which is the proper SimCity, ported)
[20:00] <SlimeyPete> though Metropolis is a very recent port
[20:00] <^TheCrono> Metropolis..never heard of it
[20:00] <ForgeAus> but some new games put simcity's citybuilding to shame...
[20:00] <Vermux_> the last message is Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)
[20:00] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: ^
[20:00] <^TheCrono> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=4088
[20:00] <SlimeyPete> it's SimCity under a different name, ^TheCrono. The code was released but the name is still trademarked
[20:00] <^TheCrono> theres this though
[20:00] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: and I dont have the command prompt
[20:01] <^TheCrono> Simcity one? :D
[20:01] <SlimeyPete> ^TheCrono: yup ;)
[20:01] <ForgeAus> I liked simcity2000
[20:01] <ForgeAus> and simearth
[20:01] <SlimeyPete> Vermux_: the messages are normal then. If you press alt-f2 at that point, can you log in?
[20:01] <ForgeAus> after that I never really seemed to get into the ones that come afterwards
[20:02] <BigT> mhh kann mir hier jemand den channel für den deutschen kubuntu chan sagen ?
[20:02] <SlimeyPete> !de
[20:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:02] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: I didnt have those messages ever bofore
[20:02] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: yes, I can log in
[20:02] <SlimeyPete> Vermux_: they're just part of the boot process, I see them all the time myself.
[20:02] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: I never saw them
[20:02] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: and believe me, Im booting a lot..hehehe
[20:03] <SlimeyPete> Vermux_: try "less /var/log/kdm.log"
[20:03] <SlimeyPete> see if there are errors in there
[20:03] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: yes
[20:04] <SlimeyPete> Vermux_: There are errors? What do they say?
[20:04] <^TheCrono> They haven't found a way to run two OSes at once yet..so you can jsut alt-tab esque between them for apps etc?
[20:04] <^TheCrono> I suppose that would require a system of its own....
[20:05] <SlimeyPete> you can do it with a VM
[20:05] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: 4812 x : client 17 rejected from local host (uid 1000). Also, client 2
[20:05] <SlimeyPete> eg virtualbox
[20:06] <^TheCrono> Can you do that to switch between kubuntu and doze?
[20:06] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: also I found: fatal server error: caught signal 11. server aborting
[20:06] <SlimeyPete> Vermux_: hrm, that is probably the cause of the problem. I am afraid I do not know how to fix it. If you use google and the ubuntu forums to search for the errors, you may find something.
[20:06] <Alieno> any italian's channel?
[20:06] <SlimeyPete> Sorry I can't be more help.
[20:06] <SlimeyPete> !it
[20:06] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:08] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: thanks
[20:08] <Vermux_> does anybody know what to do?
[20:11] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: Im rebooting, and will try to log in to gui as root and then log out
[20:12] <anton_> Anyone as got a nice filesharing program to recommend?
[20:12] <ForgeAus> you can do it Crono
[20:12] <ForgeAus> but for your purposes 3D is the problem
[20:12] <BluesKaj> anton_, look in the kmenu for ktorrent
[20:12] <SlimeyPete> anton_: amule, ktorrent
[20:13] <ForgeAus> Virtualization often doesn't do 3D well, you'll have to check the docs to find specifics
[20:13] <SlimeyPete> VMWare does DirectX but only under a Windows host IIRC
[20:13] <Alcapond> I Have problems with the desktop-effect in KDE4. I have ATI-Card and OpenGL says it's working, but shows no desktop effects. Thx for help!
[20:13] <SlimeyPete> it won't convert oGL -> DX
[20:13] <^TheCrono> Does utorrent run on kubuntu?
[20:14] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: ok, the resolution is screwed now
[20:14] <anton_> Yeah, but i dont want to fileshare via torrents
[20:14] <anton_> I wont to use like limewire
[20:14] <Vermux_> cant do anything
[20:14] <^TheCrono> slsk/ares work id imagen in Wine
[20:14] <anton_> Ok, i like ares
[20:14] <ForgeAus> SlimyPete no fair I'm pretty sure the other way around works
[20:14] <anton_> It's nice
[20:14] <^TheCrono> try it in wine
[20:15] <^TheCrono> ares is by no means a complicated program
[20:15] <gmpf> v
[20:15] <ForgeAus> but I don't think its translating DX -> OGL
[20:15] <SlimeyPete> Vermux_: erk, oh dear. Does the same thing happen when you don't log in as root?
[20:15] <anton_> Complicated, ares? :O
[20:15] <^TheCrono> Do i need to do extra things in kubuntu for mp3 support?
[20:15] <SlimeyPete> !mp3
[20:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:16] <SlimeyPete> I think you have to enable restricted formats asper above
[20:16] <SlimeyPete> but I can't quite remember (it's been a while)
[20:16] <^TheCrono> Ive no clue how to do that.
[20:16] <SlimeyPete> that page will show you, I think.
[20:16] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: Im checking now
[20:17] <SlimeyPete> ^TheCrono: ah, seems to be ubuntu-only
[20:17] <anton_> The crono, yes, but use audacious instead
[20:17] <^TheCrono> audacious?
[20:17] <^TheCrono> instead of what?
[20:17] <^TheCrono> Heh.
[20:18] <anton_> Yes, to play mp3-files
[20:18] <anton_> Instead of amarok
[20:18] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: no, it is fine as a user
[20:18] <^TheCrono> amarok>?
[20:18] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: what do I do?
[20:18] <^TheCrono> anton,you have lost me
[20:18] <^TheCrono> :(
[20:18] <^TheCrono> Let me jsut get kubuntu install and working first, heh
[20:19] <SlimeyPete> Vermux_: that's very odd - it should be using the same configuration for both. I think you may have some strange permissions issue on your system or something.
[20:19] <^TheCrono> Hrm, does kubuntu come with ethernet drivers?
[20:19] <^TheCrono> or how does that work?
[20:19] <SlimeyPete> if you haven't looked on the forums yet then I'd recommend doing so, and maybe make a post there about it
[20:19] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: yes, I had to change some permissions earlier due to a problem
[20:19] <SlimeyPete> ^TheCrono: yes, the kernel has many drivers built in
[20:19] <^TheCrono> Chances are my standard ethernet card will work?..what about ati drivers?
[20:19] <SlimeyPete> Vermux_: what did you change?
[20:19] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: I couldnt get into Aministrative mode with the userName
[20:20] <anton_> Ah, okay, i thought u got probs with playing .mp3files? :P
[20:20] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: I dont exactly remember
[20:20] <^TheCrono> iwill anton_
[20:20] <SlimeyPete> ^TheCrono: yes, the chances are good. ATI should work OK by default but for 3D you'll need to install the restricted ATI drivers.
[20:20] <^TheCrono> jsut not yet :D
[20:20] <SlimeyPete> !ati
[20:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:20] <^TheCrono> by restricted to you mean illegal?
[20:20] <SlimeyPete> no, closed-source.
[20:20] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: also I had a problem with the sound, it didnt work
[20:21] <awag22> is there a way to set your max swap usage size to lower than the size of the swap partition?
[20:21] <anton_> Ok, if u got probs with mp3 files, use audacious?
[20:21] <^TheCrono> It seems kub untu comes with an app that does all this
[20:21] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: I changed something in group audio
[20:22] <pirko> genii: hi are you still here? probably I need help I already setup my tftpd but i got TFTP open timeout on client
[20:22] <SlimeyPete> Vermux_: if I were you I would put a post on the forums. Try to remember what you did and write it there, then describe your problem. There are lots of forum users out there and one of them may have encountered the same problem.
[20:22] <SlimeyPete> it sounds like a weird one to me
[20:22] <ForgeAus> I can't find much info on this metropolis simcity port
[20:22] <SlimeyPete> ForgeAus: yeah, it's a bit new
[20:22] <^TheCrono> i remember before it was like go into root, type "//r/f//avhs//-s-f-4/com"..then google for spamnetsomethingkey and paste it into root, and then aptget someshitprogram1.5 because 1.6 had a bug...blah blah
[20:23] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: yes, I worked in safe graphics mode while changing these settings
[20:23] <pirko> I'm trying to provide netboot installation on my machine but still got TFTP open timeout, does anynone know how to find out the cause?
[20:23] <^TheCrono> Just to get mp3 working
[20:23] <SlimeyPete> ForgeAus: woops, Micropolis
[20:23] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: is there away to delete everything without reinstalling kubuntu. just restor the default settings?
[20:23] <jussi01> !language | ^TheCrono
[20:23] <ubotu> ^TheCrono: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:24] <^TheCrono> Oops
[20:24] <fhd> hi! just wondering: is there kopete (mainly kmail) in kde 4.0? the packages available in apt don't install for me...
[20:24] <SlimeyPete> Vermux_: not really, but try: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg; sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[20:24] <SlimeyPete> it *might* fix things
[20:24] <Vermux_> ok
[20:24] <jussi01> fhd: kde4 support > #kubuntu-kde4
[20:25] <genii> pirko: I am back hopefully. Some network problems and also work occupied me , apologies
[20:25] <fhd> jussi01: thank you! (and sorry)
[20:25] <jussi01> :)
[20:25] <oreth|> ok
[20:25] <oreth|> i installed MythBuntu over my Kubuntu installation
[20:25] <oreth|> now my K menu is BARREN
[20:25] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: nothing happans when I type those
[20:25] <oreth|> and all my file associations are GONE
[20:26] <pirko> genii: no problem, I'm just done with the manual provided, but it seems somethiong is wrong, because i got TFTP open timeout
[20:26] <SlimeyPete> Vermux_: nothing at all? No messages?
[20:26] <ForgeAus> lol micropolis was the original name simcity was going to be called
[20:26] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: no
[20:26] <ForgeAus> but its just a basic one... nothing like simcity4
[20:26] <genii> pirko: So you have a directory: /var/lib/tftpboot  ?
[20:26] <pirko> genii: ps ax | grep tftp gives ntohing
[20:26] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: it just skipped to the next line (In konsole)
[20:27] <pirko> genii: yes I have that directory, but not sure if tftpd is running
[20:27] <faithful_one>  i just downloaded the restricted drivers for my video card, and now, gnome isn't finding it or displaying it correctly, how do i put the drivers back the way they were?
[20:27] <SlimeyPete> Vermux_: hmm. Try rebooting anyway. I can't remember if it's supposed to print some messages or not.
[20:27] <pirko> genii:ls /var/lib/tftpboot/386  boot.img.gz  mini.iso  netboot.tar.gz  pxelinux.0  pxelinux.cfg  ubuntu-installer
[20:27] <oreth|> is there anyway to REBUILD kde?
[20:28] <oreth|> so that all my apps and stuff are in teh K menu and my file associations are there?
[20:28] <pirko> genii: dhcpd semms to be up because the laptop obtains the IP
[20:28] <oreth|> i can't even open an mp3 or run a python script anymore
[20:28] <SlimeyPete> faithful_one: if you used an automated tool to do it, then there is probably a backup of your configuration. You'll need to overwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf with the backup file(which is probablyalso in /etc/X11/)
[20:29] <faithful_one> SlimeyPete: ok, how do i do it?
[20:29] <genii> pirko: Did you edit the /etc/default/tftpd-hpa file so the line in it reads: RUN_DAEMON="yes"        and next line: OPTIONS="-l -c -p -s /var/lib/tftpboot -u root"                          ?
[20:29] <trappist> :q
[20:29] <faithful_one> SlimeyPete: what commands do i use?
[20:29] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: I rebooted. it is fine. now I'll try logging off
[20:29] <SlimeyPete> faithful_one: first of all: "cd /etc/X11" then hit return then type "ls" and hit return
[20:30] <SlimeyPete> tell me if there are any xorg.conf files there
[20:30] <pirko> genii: no because there was /etc/inetd.conf
[20:30] <pirko> genii: give a minute i check the second possiblity too
[20:30] <genii> pirko: If tftpd is not enabled in that file it does not matter if inetd calls it or not
[20:31] <Vermux_> SlimeyPete: getting the same messages again
[20:31] <anton_> Go Go Sweden !!!
[20:31] <^TheCrono> so 5GB is enough for kubuntu?
[20:31] <^TheCrono> i want to be sure
[20:31] <SlimeyPete> Vermux_: oh dear, it didn't work then, sorry. I can't think of any more advice to give you I'm afraid.
[20:31] <SlimeyPete> ^TheCrono: yes, you can fit it in 5GB.
[20:31] <Vermux_> ok, thans
[20:31] <Vermux_> thanks
[20:31] <SlimeyPete> not a huge amount of room to breath, but it'll do
[20:31] <^TheCrono> 7GB ok?
[20:31] <pirko> genii: aha now understand, i have chnged no to yes, should i run something now?
[20:31] <genii> ^TheCrono: Yes enough. Although you may run out of room if you install many things or do not clear out /var/cache/apt/archives     on occasion
[20:32] <faithful_one> there is xorg.cong and xorg.conf.1, .2, .3, .failsafe,& .failsafe.bak
[20:32] <^TheCrono> i am wanting to know, because as it stands, i have abrely a gig left..so that means some stuff has got to go, heh, but jsut how much
[20:32] <genii> pirko: Yes.   sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start
[20:32] <^TheCrono> i'll do a 7gb partition
[20:32] <SlimeyPete> ^TheCrono: I have used 3.8GB on this laptop, which has been running Kubuntu Gutsy for a few months.
[20:32] <SlimeyPete> but I don't download many files etc
[20:33] <^TheCrono> i'llprolly tget alot,lol..i'll do 7
[20:33] <faithful_one> SlimeyPete: there is xorg.cong and xorg.conf.1, .2, .3, .failsafe,& .failsafe.bak
[20:33] <Vargoth> hello
[20:33] <SlimeyPete> faithful_one: "sudo cp -p xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf"
[20:33] <SlimeyPete> faithful_one: then enter your normal user password
[20:33] <mark_> can anyone help with and external HDD issue?
[20:34] <Vargoth> i have a problem with compiz, when i activate compiz, and deaktivate "windows decoration", then i can't see any titles of my windows any more
[20:34] <faithful_one> SlimeyPete: ok, then reboot?
[20:34] <^TheCrono> Here is a question, if i free up 8 gigs, and tell the program i want 7 gigspartition..willit partition thew free space or overwirte other stuff?
[20:34] <SlimeyPete> faithful_one: no need to reboot, just do "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[20:34] <SlimeyPete> faithful_one: if it doesn't work then try doing the same with xorg.conf.2, .3 etc
[20:34] <SlimeyPete> until it works
[20:34] <faithful_one> SlimeyPete: would gdm work the same way?
[20:34] <mark_> Vargoth PM me!
[20:35] <SlimeyPete> faithful_one: yes, just substitute gdm for kdm
[20:35] <pirko> genii: done but still the same problem
[20:35] <BluesKaj> ^TheCrono, what partition editor are you using ?
[20:35] <pirko> genii:where can I found the log from tftpd?
[20:35] <^TheCrono> what ever coems with kubuntu
[20:35] <Vargoth> i deactivated "windows decoration", because it has a big border around my kde task bar
[20:36] <genii> pirko: list again the files in /var/lib/tftpboot
[20:36] <^TheCrono> qtpart i think
[20:36] <^TheCrono> or soemthing
[20:36] <BluesKaj> oh bummer , b=never used qtparted ..always use GParted Live CD ...excellent app
[20:36] <pirko> genii: drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2007-10-16 01:21 386 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9018633 2007-10-16 00:21 boot.img.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9512960 2007-10-16 00:21 mini.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9002347 2007-10-16 00:21 netboot.tar.gz lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 2008-01-22 20:40 pxelinux.0 -> ubuntu-installer/i386/pxelinux.0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-01-22 21:07 pxelinux.cfg drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2007-10-15 23:59 ubuntu-installer
[20:36] <pirko> oh
[20:36] <mark_> make an executable bash file containing this code
[20:36] <oreth|> anybody?
[20:36] <mark_> #!/bin/bash
[20:36] <mark_> compiz --replace &
[20:36] <mark_> sleep5
[20:36] <mark_> emerald --replace
[20:36] <pirko> genii: 386 boot.img.gz mini.iso netboot.tar.gz pxelinux.0 pxelinux.cfg ubuntu-installer
[20:37] <oreth|> my K menu is completely empty
[20:37] <genii> pirko: no need for the ls -l   , just  ls       would have worked
[20:37] <mark_> and put it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[20:37] <oreth|> is there a way to repopulate it?
[20:37] <Vargoth> thank you mark_
[20:37] <Vargoth> i'm going to try this now
[20:38] <BluesKaj> oreth|, install kubuntu-desktop?
[20:38] <^TheCrono> they said kubuntu comes with gparted
[20:38] <oreth|> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[20:38] <oreth|> and that will "re-install" my kde setup?
[20:39] <BluesKaj> just the kubuntu default apps
[20:39] <oreth|> well
[20:39] <oreth|> when I try to open "my computer" or whatever it is...
[20:39] <^TheCrono> Lol
[20:39] <oreth|> it brings up a dialogue "OPEN WITH"
[20:39] <genii> pirko: please use now the pastebin website and put there for me to look at the contents of:   /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default
[20:39] <genii> !paste | pirko
[20:40] <ubotu> pirko: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:40] <mark_> whenever i try to connect to my external hdd it says hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[20:40] <BluesKaj> oreth|, my computer...do you mean the Kmenu ?
[20:40] <Vargoth> does bash files need a file extension?
[20:40] <oreth|> Blues: there's the K menu... and then the "system" menu, i guess
[20:40] <mark_> nope
[20:41] <oreth|> where you can access Home, Network, Storage Media
[20:41] <faithful_one> SlimeyPete: ok, i did have to reboot my system, and now everything seems to be back to normal, thanx
[20:41] <Vargoth> ok, why is this neccessary?
[20:41] <BluesKaj> the kmenu is where all the apps are listed
[20:41] <SlimeyPete> faithful_one: :)
[20:41] <oreth|> clicking on any of those Icons brings up an "Open With" dialogue
[20:41] <Vargoth> make it executable means, to set them the rights 777 ?
[20:41] <oreth|> Blues: I have no apps listed
[20:41] <Vargoth> or can i give the bash script a lower level right
[20:41] <faithful_one> SlimeyPete: the system did kick out an error tho, and it's one that i've seen quite a bit of...
[20:41] <faithful_one> There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.
[20:41] <faithful_one> Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly.
[20:41] <faithful_one> The last error message was:
[20:41] <faithful_one> Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[20:41] <faithful_one> GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in.
[20:41] <BluesKaj> !kmenu
[20:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmenu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:41] <foxshadow> 2
[20:41] <pirko> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53077/plain/
[20:42] <faithful_one> SlimeyPete: any way to get that fixed too? :)
[20:42] <genii> pirko: OK, reading
[20:42] <BluesKaj> !K Menu
[20:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k menu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:42] <mark_> right click and the second tab there a box to make it executable
[20:42] <SlimeyPete> faithful_one: that does sound a little odd, but I don't know how to fix it. You're better off asking Gnome-related stuff in #ubuntu.
[20:42] <BluesKaj> !info kmenu
[20:42] <ubotu> Package kmenu does not exist in gutsy
[20:42] <Vargoth> thx mark_
[20:42] <mark_> np
[20:42] <oreth|> blues: i understand what the kmenu is
[20:42] <faithful_one> SlimeyPete: ok, i'll check there, thanx
[20:43] <Vargoth> do i need to update or install a graphic driver, to get more fps in games? i have a ati radeon 9000
[20:43] <oreth|> blues: http://www.seopher.com/images/kubuntu/menu.png
[20:43] <oreth|> the k-menu is what's selected
[20:43] <oreth|> i have only the items listed under ACTIONS
[20:43] <oreth|> everything else is blank
[20:43] <oreth|> the menu to the left.. the system menu
[20:43] <oreth|> if I click any of those icons, it brings up the "open with" dialogue
[20:43] <^TheCrono> will kubuntu be able to use my windows install of firefox for mt favorites and stuff etc etc?
[20:44] <^TheCrono> my*
[20:44] <reverend_joshua> i can't seem to get amarok to play mp3s
[20:44] <^TheCrono> !mp3
[20:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:45] <faTe> hi
[20:45] <^TheCrono> hi
[20:45] <mark_> also make sure you installed compiz-kde, not compiz-fusion
[20:45] <faTe> can somebody help me with pidgin on kubuntu 7.10 ?
[20:46] <oreth|> what's wrong with your pidgin install?
[20:46] <ForgeAus> Crono you might be able to import them if your lucky but otherwise no
[20:46] <ForgeAus> really favourites in windows are just saved as shortcuts to urls anyway
[20:46] <Vargoth> ok, i'm going to UnInstall compiz fusion
[20:47] <faTe> oreth|: not relly with the install, more with the xfire plugin
[20:47] <faTe> i can't install it
[20:47] <faTe> and i'm a noob and don't know real to compile
[20:47] <oreth|> xfire being the online community for gamers?
[20:47] <Vargoth> compiz fusion are only plugins right?
[20:48] <Vargoth> are compiz fusion plugins not compatible with compiz-kde?
[20:48] <faTe> oreth|: yes this xfire
[20:48] <mark_> kdoes anyone know how to play back xvid files?
[20:48] <SlimeyPete> !xvid
[20:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:49] <SlimeyPete> mark_: most linux media players should do it
[20:49] <SlimeyPete> vlc will, certainly
[20:49] <mark_> sudo apt-get install compiz-kde emerald compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:49] <oreth|> faTe: are there instructions somewherre?
[20:49] <mark_> sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[20:50] <faTe> oreth|: i seached it, but i'm now asking in #pidgin, maybe somebody can help me there, but i found no intructions
[20:50] <oreth|> hrm
[20:52] <pirko> genii: what about firewall could be the problem?
[20:53] <Vargoth> thx mark_ i deleted all previous compiz installation and install now yours
[20:54] <^TheCrono> wow, i emptied my recyle bin, and i gained 20 gigs..heh
[20:54] <mark_> you got it working
[20:54] <mark_> ?
[20:54] <pirko> genii: I found something in dameon.log
[20:55] <reverend_joshua> i cannot find libxine-extracodecs in synaptic
[20:55] <Vargoth> not sure, i'm going to reboot now, and then i will tell you ^^
[20:56] <pirko> genii: cannot bind to local socket: Address already in use Jan 22 21:35:01 habr in.tftpd[6190]: received address was not AF_INET, please check your inetd config Jan 22 21:35:01 habr inetd[5162]: /usr/sbin/in.tftpd: exit status 0x4c00 and many similar messages
[20:56] <Vargoth> i'm back in 3 minutes
[20:56] <sub[t]rnl> reverend_joshua➜ are you using gutsy?
[20:56] <mark_> run compiz --relace
[20:56] <mark_> replace*
[20:56] <reverend_joshua> dapper
[20:56] <BluesKaj> reverend_joshua,  Open adept package manager, On the menu of that screen you will want to click on Adept -> Manage    Repositories, click the kubuntu software tab, check all the boxes "X",same goes for the third party software tab. Close,and then in the terminal "sudo apt-get update".Now you have more sources for applications other than the defaults that came with Kubuntu
[20:57] <AdamBright> Ok i was reading all the linux on xbox 1 stuff but its all horribly out of date, has anyone gotten a recent version of kubuntu working on the xbobxx, say gutsy?
[21:00] <Vargoth> i'm back :)
[21:00] <Vargoth> at the startup, the 3d desktop effects wasn't loaded
[21:01] <mark_> run compiz --replace
[21:02] <Vargoth> Checking for nVidia: not present.
[21:02] <Vargoth> Checking for FBConfig: present.
[21:02] <Vargoth> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[21:02] <mark_> you need to install your GFX driver
[21:03] <mark_> open up the restriced driver manager in the system setting
[21:04] <Vargoth> but compiz is running, but only witout a window title
[21:04] <genii> pirko: One minute still, making a new file for you
[21:04] <mark_> did you install the gfx driver?
[21:05] <Vargoth> no
[21:05] <mark_> thats a must
[21:05] <anton_> anyone as know a server I can use in aMule?
[21:05] <pirko> genii: I am also analyzing again the hwole thing and I am not sure about the /ect/inetd.conf
[21:06] <SatManUK> !wifi
[21:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:06] <pirko> genii: why there is twice /usr/sbin/in.tftpd ? may be it as a typo?
[21:06] <Vargoth> the system told me, that i'm not using restricted drivers
[21:07] <mark_> yeah, install them, their restriced because their not open source
[21:07] <Vargoth> so I must install the ATI drivers manually?
[21:07] <mark_> you can, its very simple
[21:07] <Vargoth> my list in restricted hardware is emtpy
[21:07] <faTe> "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" <---what means this, what am i needing?
[21:07] <mark_> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[21:08] <Vargoth> ok, thanks for the link, i'm downloading the packet
[21:08] <mark_> kk
[21:09] <mark_> just run sudo sh *.run
[21:10] <Vargoth> should I use the automatic or the manually installation?
[21:10] <mark_> automatic
[21:10] <faTe> "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" <---what means this, what am i needing
[21:10] <SatManUK> im back in england, and i need to setup a wireless network on one of the pc's (pracitce run for when my own pc is couriered over later in this week)/
[21:10] <SatManUK> I have a belkin wireless card
[21:10] <tuxi> hi
[21:11] <SatManUK> but kubunutu can't identify exactly what it is
[21:11] <fhd> hi
[21:11] <Vargoth> hi
[21:11] <tuxi> anyone knows the command for the nvidia driver manager
[21:11] <SatManUK> (its one i just found lying around :)
[21:11] <fhd> tuxi: nvidia-settings
[21:11] <Vargoth> installed
[21:11] <mark_> now reboot
[21:11] <tuxi> no i mean to install the driver
[21:11] <SatManUK> any suggestions on how best to install this card?
[21:12] <SatManUK> it reports its a belkin unkown 700f
[21:12] <tuxi> anything like commercial driver thingy
[21:12] <tuxi> SatManUK: did you google for it
[21:12] <fhd> tuxi: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx    should be the one. not sure, installed it with restricted manager last time
[21:12] <fhd> tuxi: restricted-manager-kde     that tool should list the card and install the driver on demand
[21:12] <tuxi> searched the restricted manager ;-d so thanks
[21:12] <Vargoth> ok, i'm back in 3 minutes again :)
[21:12] <faTe> "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" <---what means this, what am i needing
[21:13] <mark_> kk
[21:13] <smeril> what is the install comand for lynx?
[21:13] <SatManUK> i installed the card, installed ndiswrapper, imported the win xp drivers, modprobed ndiswrapper but still it isn't detecting any wireless hardware
[21:13] <genii> pirko: Firstly:          sudo ln -s /var/lib/tftpboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/linux /var/lib/tftpboot/linux; sudo ln -s /var/lib/tftpboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz /var/lib/tftpboot/initrd.gz; sudo mv /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default.bak
[21:13] <tuxi> smeril apt-get install lynx O_o
[21:14] <kraut> hi
[21:14] <faTe> hey guys, i wanted to "compile" (or sth. like this), but the console printed this line: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[21:15] <kraut> could anybody give me please a hint, why my keyboard works in kdm, but not in kde?
[21:15] <kraut> something crashed before and i don't know what's broken now
[21:15] <SatManUK> im reading something about it on linuxquestions.org
[21:15] <pirko> genii: done
[21:15] <faTe> can somebody say me what it means or what i need?!?!
[21:15] <smeril> thanks
[21:15] <Vermux_> when logging out the screen is transfered to terminal 8. and tty7 has a blinking dash
[21:15] <Vermux_> can somebody help me?
[21:15] <genii> pirko: Then: sudo nano /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default                                       this will be an empty file now. Copy and paste from here into it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53079/
[21:16] <faTe> hey guys, i wanted to "compile" (or sth. like this), but the console printed this line: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[21:16] <faTe> can somebody say me what it means or what i need?!?!
[21:17] <Vermux_> the only way to start the gui again is to type in a terminal sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[21:17] <faTe> ::::::/
[21:17] <Vermux_> need help
[21:17] <faTe> hey guys, i wanted to "compile" (or sth. like this), but the console printed this line: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[21:17] <faTe> can somebody say me what it means or what i need?!?!
[21:17] <pirko> genii: done
[21:18] <Vermux_> forget it, Im formatting and that's it
[21:18] <pirko> genii: can i try the boot again?
[21:18] <faTe> i wanted to "compile" (or sth. like this), but the console printed this line: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[21:18] <Vargoth> ok, back
[21:19] <Vargoth> the compiz is now loaded at startup, must i start this at every boot?
[21:19] <mark_> unless u start kwin first
[21:19] <anton_> Someone as can post a aMule server as I can download froom?
[21:20] <smeril> when i try to install lynx it says that i am not root open 13 etc what does that means
[21:20] <smeril> mean
[21:20] <pirko> genii: again the timeout :-(
[21:21] <Vargoth> what is kwin?
[21:21] <mark_> kbuntu without compiz
[21:21] <Vargoth> i opened with the command : compiz --replace , but it still doesn't detect any drivers
[21:22] <mark_> hmm, im at a loss then
[21:22] <cva> smeril: sudo aptitude install lynx
[21:22] <kim> Hey guys I have a question
[21:23] <faTe> why is nobody answering MY question
[21:23]  * faTe begins to emo around
[21:23] <kim> I wanna know how to install divx web player for Kubuntu
[21:23] <kim> Can anybody help me out
[21:23] <_Angelus_> faTe:  what distribution are you using?
[21:24] <Vermux> While booting with the dvd in order to install Kubuntu gusty I got the following error: The Process for the media protocol died unexpectedly
[21:24] <faTe> _Angelus_:  kubuntu 7.10
[21:24] <Vermux> it happaned after the gui was up
[21:24] <_Angelus_> faTe:  "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[21:24] <_Angelus_> :)
[21:24] <Vermux> anybody has idea?
[21:24] <faTe> oh
[21:24] <faTe> oke :/
[21:24] <_Angelus_> without the quotes of course
[21:24] <_Angelus_> ah , and in a commond prompt, not on a paper with a pencil
[21:24] <faTe> thanks _Angelus_ :* :) yeah thank you
[21:25] <_Angelus_> fo' nothin'
[21:25] <Vargoth> mark_ , do I maybe need to install this: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl ?
[21:25] <faTe> tz!
[21:25] <faTe> i even not can thank you
[21:26] <mark_> possibly
[21:26] <wilson> if its an nividia card it won't
[21:26] <mark_> im sot sure hot to trouble shoot driver issues
[21:27] <Vargoth> the effects works, but only the window title is missing ^^
[21:27] <wilson> oh
[21:27] <wilson> you needa  window decorator
[21:28] <wilson> best thing to do is install emerald
[21:28] <Vargoth> ok, it doesn't detect my graphic card, but it seems to work now
[21:29] <_Angelus_> faTe:  depends if your a woman , bad luck for me cause i have a girlfriend, but if your a man, i would apreciate some good potent weed
[21:29] <Vargoth> when I started compiz before I installed the ATI drivers, it has big white border around kde taskbar
[21:29] <_Angelus_> haha
[21:30] <faTe> _Angelus_: i also have a girlfriend :/
[21:30] <faTe> :P
[21:30] <Vargoth> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[21:30] <Vargoth> Starting emerald
[21:30] <Vargoth> /usr/bin/compiz.real (cube) - Warn: Failed to load slide: freedesktop
[21:31] <Vargoth> but compiz run without problem
[21:31] <Vargoth> but doesn't detect the driver
[21:32] <joe_> nter shows up in the window "Configure - KDE Control Module" and when I try to print a document, it shows up. Also there is a little printer up near my clock and it shows the status fo print jobs. BUT nothing prints even though the status windwo says its complete. what could be causing this?
[21:33] <joe_> my printer**
[21:33] <sub[t]rnl> Vargoth➜ you don't need Xgl, as long as  glxinfo |grep rendering  shows yes, then your in good shape
[21:34] <Vargoth> the system said no
[21:35] <faTe> _Angelus_ my friend:
[21:35] <faTe> "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths"
[21:35] <pirko> genii: hey good news i replaced inetutils with openbsd version and got a step further
[21:35] <faTe> what means this?
[21:35] <faTe> sudo apt-get install x-libraries ?!
[21:35] <_Angelus_> hmm
[21:35] <_Angelus_> if im not mistakin
[21:35] <_Angelus_> sudo apt-get install xorg-dev
[21:36] <Vargoth> and in the restricted driver list is emtpy, but when I follow the tutorials on the ubuntu FAQ's, I should see them
[21:36] <faTe> ok i'll try
[21:37] <genii> pirko: Sorry again for lag, it is my work here needing me. Here now until they call me again
[21:37] <genii> pirko: Have you gotten tftpd-hpa to run on the server?
[21:37] <Vargoth> I can't unterstand, why my restricted driver list is empty
[21:37] <pirko> genii: I found http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=404760 a and then replace netutils with openbsd
[21:38] <genii> pirko: Ah, good. My netboot install setup is very old, with Dapper
[21:38] <Vargoth> the ATI catalyst control panel doen'st work either
[21:39] <pirko> genii: uisng your configuration I got some error (don't remember) now trying the original one
[21:39] <pirko> genii: and it seems good!
[21:39] <genii> pirko: So the client is now booting into the setup, yes?
[21:40] <pirko> genii: yes starting an installation, I am very happy, thank you very very much for support
[21:41] <Vermux> I got the message on kdedesktop when booting from the dvd: "the process for the media protocol died unexcpectedly"
[21:41] <Vermux> does it imply on hardware problem
[21:41] <Vermux> ??
[21:41] <faTe> aahhh!!!
[21:41] <genii> pirko: Glad to help, even if it did occupy much time due to my work here
[21:41] <faTe> "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!" <--- _Angelus_?!?! :)
[21:42] <pirko> genii: sorry for disturbing your work
[21:42] <pirko> genii: btw: what's a clock by you?
[21:43] <pirko> genii: here is 22:43 :-)
[21:43] <smeril> tja neb
[21:43] <ubuntu> tja
[21:43] <ubuntu> VAD H'NDER
[21:43] <genii> pirko: here 16:43 so almost 5pm which is my work is done time :)
[21:43] <smeril> whats the command for install firefox
[21:44] <smi> tja
[21:44] <faTe> help please: "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"
[21:44] <pirko> genii: ok so thanks again to spent your work with me :-)
[21:44] <Vargoth> I think, that I installed a false driver?
[21:45] <genii> pirko: Enjoy kubuntu
[21:45] <pirko> genii: is there some way how can i pay the score to you?
[21:45] <Vermux> how do I format the partition?
[21:45] <Vargoth> I redownloaded the driver again, but when i execute the ".run" file, it tells me an error: ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[21:46] <smi> kubuntu-se
[21:47] <smi> #kubuntu-se
[21:47] <faTe> help please: "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"
[21:47] <pirko> genii: just let me now on my skype: pirkojm or ICQ: 330718616
[21:47] <LjL> smi: /join #kubuntu-se
[21:47] <LjL> !repeat | faTe
[21:47] <ubotu> faTe: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[21:48] <LjL> faTe: try « sudo apt-get install libqt3-dev »
[21:48] <gurtubay> cual es el link de IRC en español de kubuntu?
[21:49] <Taggnostr> hello
[21:49] <LjL> !es | gurtubay
[21:49] <ubotu> gurtubay: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:49] <gurtubay> gracias
[21:49] <Vargoth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305419 <- someone got a solution, but is it really neccessry to install ubuntu again?
[21:49] <faTe> thanks LjL
[21:50] <faTe> "E: Paket libqt3-dev hat keinen Installationskandidaten", in english like: pacet libqt3-dev has no installationcandidates
[21:50] <Taggnostr> how much space kubuntu needs? I'm going to install it on virtual machine just for use some programs, and I don't need to save any data, do you think that 5GB are enough?
[21:50] <faTe> what should i do now?
[21:51] <faTe> Taggnostr: i9t could get "tight", but try it :P
[21:52] <Taggnostr> actually I've ubuntu 6.06 and I only use 3.5GB, the dvd of kubuntu is 4.5GB, but I don't know if all the data will be copied on the disk
[21:53] <Taggnostr> 4.3GB*
[21:53] <stdin> faTe: try "libqt3-mt-dev"
[21:55] <faTe> thanks stdin
[21:56] <BluesKaj> Taggnostr, 6G should be safer
[21:56] <Taggnostr> ok
[21:56] <Taggnostr> I still have 12GB free :P
[21:58] <Vargoth> cya
[21:58] <thomas_newbie__> For my phpBB2 Server do I want to link /var/www/phpb to /usr/share/phpbb2/site ??
[22:00] <intelikey> ok now i am working on configuring a lan in which the default gateway could be any of several boxes,  any thoughts on simplifying that ?
[22:01] <intelikey> if Jucato was around i'd ask him...  :)
[22:01] <faTe> i go to sleep
[22:01] <faTe> god night u all
[22:01] <intelikey> sleep well
[22:03] <^TheCrono> so 7gb kubuntu partition and 2gb swap?
[22:04] <fdoving> intelikey: so do you want the load to be distributed randomly among the alternatives or what's the plan?
[22:05] <intelikey> ^TheCrono 7g sounds excessive unless your home is on it too  then sounds maybe small.
[22:05] <^TheCrono> ive been getting diffrent reports on this lol, so hwos 5gb kubuntu and 2gb swap?
[22:05] <intelikey> fdoving no. the gateway can be any of   but not multiples   i.e. only one box will be gateway at any given time
[22:06] <fdoving> intelikey: how do you know which ?
[22:06] <intelikey> ^TheCrono will your home be seperate ?
[22:06] <intelikey> fdoving exactly.   that's where my snag is.
[22:06] <^TheCrono> my home will be on a 70gb partition, it will have windows on it aswell
[22:07] <intelikey> ^TheCrono then yes 5g should be enough for the install.   you might want to go ahead and make it 7g   seeing that you have plenty of room to play with.
[22:08] <^TheCrono> well, i wouldn't say pelnty, that 70GB is full upto 60gb
[22:08] <^TheCrono> lol
[22:08] <^TheCrono> with no major games installed
[22:08] <^TheCrono> well, no, i do got a few games, nvm
[22:08] <^TheCrono> but i tend to fill up very fast
[22:08] <intelikey> ^TheCrono the install will take about 3g roughly.  but you will need some slack on there for /tmp and package cache
[22:09] <^TheCrono> hows 6gb?
[22:09] <^TheCrono> i'm mostly doing games and music
[22:09] <^TheCrono> that shouldn't take much more stuff
[22:09] <^TheCrono> space*
[22:09] <SatManUK> i am setting up a belkin 7000f network card, with a Realtek RTL8185L chipset
[22:09] <SatManUK> I have downloaded the linux drivers from Realtek Website
[22:09] <SatManUK> removed NDISWRAPPEr
[22:10] <SatManUK> but im getting an error - no such device
[22:10] <intelikey> ^TheCrono ummmm remember that /tmp may be used in editing movies so you need enough free space to do that.
[22:10] <pirko> hey does anyone know which driver pass to the hts541612j9sa00 disk. it is not recognized durign installation
[22:10] <SatManUK> wlan0 - no such device
[22:10] <^TheCrono> i don't do movies [why does everyone think i will edit movies?]
[22:10] <intelikey> ^TheCrono i'd say 6g   after hearing what you plan on doing.
[22:11] <intelikey> sorry musig  not movies   that was a brain hicup
[22:11] <Vargoth> does someone knows, why I can't see any drivers in the driver restriction utility?
[22:11] <intelikey> music   i still can't say it.
[22:11] <fdoving> intelikey: then fetch a routing daemon and configure it to figure it out for you :)
[22:11] <^TheCrono> well, my entier music setup right now takes around 3 gigs
[22:11] <^TheCrono> that will be on /home anyways
[22:11] <^TheCrono> i guess
[22:11] <^TheCrono> on the 70gb partition
[22:12] <intelikey> ^TheCrono you don't do any editing of the music files?
[22:12] <^TheCrono> i make them in a DAW, and save them, usualy as mp3, not wav
[22:13] <^TheCrono> and i ahve about 1.5gb sample cd i use
[22:13] <^TheCrono> and the rest is jsut the music apps and system
[22:13] <Vargoth> I think, that I should install kubuntu again -.-
[22:13] <intelikey> ^TheCrono ok  about 5 or 6g   you'll be fine.
[22:13] <^TheCrono> swap file...2gb is fine?
[22:13] <^TheCrono> what is swap partition for anyways?
[22:14] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[22:14] <justin_> is there a irc program that runs in an x window
[22:14] <intelikey> ^TheCrono swap needs to be large enough to write all of the ram to it,   if and only if you plan on using hybernate
[22:14] <jussi01> !swap | ^TheCrono
[22:14] <ubotu> ^TheCrono: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[22:14] <justin_> not a gui program
[22:14] <intelikey> ^TheCrono i don't hybernate and i don't use swap.
[22:14] <justin_> i mean a terminal window
[22:14] <jussi01> justin_: you can run irssi in konsole
[22:15] <^TheCrono> i ahve 1.5gb of memory
[22:15] <justin_> just type irssi??
[22:15] <jussi01> !info irssi
[22:15] <^TheCrono> somaby 1gb swap would be fine
[22:15] <intelikey> then 2g swap would allow hybernate   yes.
[22:15] <Vargoth> tired with installing the ATI driver :)
[22:15] <jussi01> justin_: you need to install it first: sudo apt-get install irssi
[22:15] <fedor__> ^TheCrono leave it at 2GB
[22:15] <^TheCrono> k
[22:15] <ubotu> irssi (source: irssi): terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1027 kB, installed size 2796 kB
[22:16] <rysiek|pl> guys, I am having a strange issue on my laptop - it has a 1280x800 screen, X server uses the full res (wallpaper is on the whole screen), but the DE (KDE, to be precise) seems to be aware of only 1024x768 (apps maximize only to this size, althogh Kicker seems to work OK)
[22:16] <^TheCrono> and kubuntu can look at my parition with data and doze on it and find its way around?...i can keep ti on ntfs right?
[22:16] <rysiek|pl> searching google gives me a whole lotta results... about twin view, etc. ;)
[22:16] <intelikey> i have 512m ram and stopped using swap three years ago.  while i only had 128m.
[22:17] <intelikey> ^TheCrono /home doesn't need to be ntfs no.
[22:17] <^TheCrono> can it be though?
[22:17] <^TheCrono> i am keeping my windows install for now
[22:17] <intelikey> ^TheCrono not without lots of tweeking.
[22:18] <^TheCrono> wteeking?
[22:18] <^TheCrono> what do i need to do?
[22:18] <intelikey> linux doesn't live in ntfs space without scba gear
[22:18] <^TheCrono> i rememebr it worked fine last time..and that was 5.10
[22:18] <hola> how i can enable ssh cominication between tw pc? . I dont know how to enalge port 22
[22:18] <^TheCrono> i had 3 paritions
[22:18] <burner> is there a way to set a default search provider in konqueror so that if I just start typing and type "planet kde" for example, it will just search google?
[22:19] <intelikey> ^TheCrono i didn't say that linux couldn't access the fs, i said that it doesn't work for system files.    and you need the permissions bits on several files in your home dir.    ntfs has no permissions bit
[22:20] <^TheCrono> what exactly does that mean? heh
[22:20] <intelikey> means that if you make your home dir ntfs then several apps will break.
[22:21] <^TheCrono> well, what do i need to do to keep ti set up so that i can switch to windows if i need to?
[22:21] <intelikey> unless you set the psyudo permission correctly then only a few will.
[22:21] <Vargoth> does someone know, what this means:
[22:21] <Vargoth> ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[22:22] <intelikey> ^TheCrono you need to move home back to the main partition and mount the swap partition some place like /mnt/    and enlarge the / root partition as much as possable.
[22:22] <hola> how i can enable ssh cominication between tw pc? . I dont know how to enalge port 22
[22:22] <jussi01> !ssh
[22:22] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[22:22] <rysiek|pl> guys, so anyone with the sub-resolution in kde?
[22:22] <intelikey> by swap   i mean. the partition with the data   not the actual swap partition    sorry.
[22:22] <^TheCrono> the main partition is the one with windows on it right? [the 70gb one]
[22:23] <intelikey> no  /
[22:23] <intelikey> main linux  partition.
[22:23] <intelikey> let me rewrite all that.
[22:23] <^TheCrono> but,if i put all the data on there, then won't windows be unable to read any of it, if i need to use it?
[22:23] <fedor__> ^TheCrono: better make sure you have that windwows data backed up, I have a bad feeling about this install :)
[22:23] <^TheCrono> i can alwasy reinstall window
[22:24] <^TheCrono> and i'm abcking up music/image and a few other tuings i need anyways
[22:24] <fedor__> ^TheCrono: thats why I said data not OS
[22:24] <^TheCrono> things*
[22:24] <^TheCrono> i jsut need it so that i can switch between linux and windows, and still use the same data for each, heh
[22:25] <intelikey> ^TheCrono you need to move the data-swap partition (70g) to some place like /mnt   and make / about 12g    that way you can access the data from either windows or linux and have home on ext# fs so you don't have permission related app trouble all the time
[22:25] <^TheCrono> or do i need to drop one or the other
[22:25] <^TheCrono> when i get ready to install it,i'll consult you again, because i kinda don't really know what you jsut said heh
[22:26] <^TheCrono> i may jsut reformat the entier thing and start from scratch
[22:26] <matt____> i would like to discover how to automatically run programs/bash scripts at certain times of day. i believe there is something like that around here somewhere, i just can't find it, someone point me to it?
[22:26] <Alloosh> hi, how do I connect a computer to the local network?
[22:27] <^TheCrono> 75% complete :/
[22:27] <intelikey> what i said was set it up something like    hda1(windows)    hda5(linux 12g mount on / )    hda6(data ntfs mount on /mnt)
[22:28] <intelikey> oh and   hda7(swap 2g)
[22:28] <intelikey> or how ever you number yours.
[22:28] <^TheCrono> 4 partitions, one for windows, one for linux, one for swap, one for data?
[22:28] <^TheCrono> correct?
[22:28] <intelikey> that's it.
[22:28] <^TheCrono> the data partition will be..ntfs?
[22:28] <intelikey> yep
[22:29] <firedog> hi
[22:29] <^TheCrono> ok
[22:29] <^TheCrono> i understand now..why 12gb for linux though?
[22:29] <firedog> hi
[22:30] <jussi01> !hi | firedog
[22:30] <ubotu> firedog: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[22:30] <intelikey> ^TheCrono cause your home dir is on it
[22:30] <firedog> guys this is totally new to me
[22:30] <^TheCrono> what goes into home?..heh
[22:30] <firedog> iam having problems here
[22:30] <^TheCrono> when i install a program,say fire fox..it goes onto home?
[22:30] <jussi01> !ask | firedog
[22:30] <ubotu> firedog: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:30] <firedog> can any one help me with this
[22:31] <jussi01> firedog: whats going on?
[22:31] <intelikey> ^TheCrono it will make files in your home yes.  but the home and the system will be sharing the same space  so you don't want to over croud either
[22:31] <firedog> iam not able to go online with the konqueror
[22:31] <firedog> wat do i have to do
[22:31] <^TheCrono> but i can also install firefox on say..the data drive, and linux can use it from there aswell?
[22:31] <jussi01> firedog: are yu connected to the net?
[22:31] <intelikey> ^TheCrono no.
[22:32] <^TheCrono> Oh?
[22:32] <firedog> iam chatting with u people right .. i must b online
[22:32] <intelikey> not unless you are talking about using a windows version and wine
[22:32] <jussi01> firedog: I didnt know if you were on that pc or not.
[22:32] <intelikey> is firedog on line ?
[22:32] <firedog> yes
[22:32] <^TheCrono> So all programs/applications for linux, must be ion the same drive linux is on, and not an ntfs drive
[22:33] <^TheCrono> in that case, i could make the limnux drive..say, 60gb, and the windows drive smaller..as i will use linux more?
[22:33] <^TheCrono> maby 50/20, respectively
[22:33] <^TheCrono> i need a bigger HD
[22:33] <Vargoth> is it not possible to install ati driver into kubuntu?
[22:34] <^TheCrono> !ati
[22:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:34] <Vargoth> it says, that my operating system is not supported
[22:34] <jussi01> !ati > Vargoth
[22:34] <jussi01> Vargoth: follow thos instructions :D
[22:34] <intelikey> ^TheCrono linux installs applications/packages differently than windows.
[22:34] <^TheCrono> exectuables cannot be on ntfs, but an image on ntfs can be viewed by linux jsut fine...right?
[22:34] <^TheCrono> or a music file
[22:34] <^TheCrono> etc
[22:34] <^TheCrono> or wine
[22:34] <intelikey> correct
[22:34] <Vargoth> yes I did, but the problem is, it doesn't work like the tutorial
[22:34] <^TheCrono> wine can run programs off ntfs?
[22:35] <Taggnostr> is there some tutorial for installing kubuntu?
[22:35] <LogicalDash> Is there a folder where the desktop config files in my K menu are kept?
[22:35] <Vargoth> my restrited drivers are empty
[22:35] <Vargoth> don't not why
[22:35] <intelikey> wine is a windows application layer for linux
[22:35] <jussi01> Vargoth: which card?
[22:35] <intelikey> !wine
[22:35] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[22:35] <Vargoth> Radeon 9000 Pro
[22:35] <jussi01> Vargoth: thats because that card is supported by the opens source radeon driver
[22:35] <hola> jussi01: tnks
[22:36] <^TheCrono> hrm, so i must decide my partition sizes, as you cannot simply change them, heh
[22:36] <jussi01> Vargoth: you dont need to install drivers for it
[22:36] <Vargoth> so when i install kubuntu, I doesn't have to do anything?
[22:36] <jussi01> Vargoth: correct
[22:36] <Vargoth> ok, and compiz and so one works correctly?
[22:36] <Vargoth> with 3D accelerator?
[22:36] <jussi01> !compiz
[22:36] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:36] <jussi01> yes
[22:36] <intelikey> ^TheCrono that's about the size of it.    mind the pun.
[22:36] <jussi01> after that^
[22:36] <jussi01> I got to run
[22:36] <^TheCrono> i'll give windows 20GB
[22:36] <^TheCrono> 2Gb swap
[22:37] <^TheCrono> and the rest into linux
[22:37] <intelikey> that leaves how much ?
[22:37] <^TheCrono> is there a reason to seperate windows from the windows ntfs partition?]\
[22:37] <Vargoth> but why tells glxinfo | grep render
[22:37] <Vargoth> No?
[22:37] <elvirolo> ations --> terminal
[22:37] <elvirolo> [23:33] <alexbOrsova> desertc: I've been googling for an hour and none of the proposed methods have worked so far
[22:37] <elvirolo> [23:33] <elvirolo> i'm having a network problem : i have two laptops here ; on the first one, whenever i connect it via ethernet to my modem, the internet connection works fine (using dhcp). on the second one though (also running gutsy), i get the following message "No working leases in persistent database"... both /etc/ntwork/interfaces are exactly the same... why is that ?
[22:37] <mrdigital> anyone know why no sound on my tv tuner?
[22:38] <intelikey> ^TheCrono no.  windows will cry if you don't give it the first primary
[22:38] <^TheCrono> so 3 partitions is ok
[22:38] <Vargoth> the only thing, what i don't unterstand is, why glxinfo | grep render gives the echo No?
[22:38] <intelikey> ^TheCrono what is that 80g disk ?
[22:38] <Lynoure> elvirolo: check the logs on the dhcp server, if you have access to it. Sounds like it is out of IPs
[22:38] <^TheCrono> yes, 80gb
[22:38] <Vargoth> when 3d accelerator is successfully activated at installation of kubuntu?
[22:39] <elvirolo> Lynoure: well... i tried connecting the second laptop while the first one was not connected and it still doesn't work
[22:39] <Lynoure> elvirolo: leases can span over reboots
[22:40] <elvirolo> Lynoure: ok
[22:40] <^TheCrono> ok, so eyah wine installs to linux /home...that way on the occasion wine doesn't run something i got 18GB free on windows partition to run it
[22:40] <^TheCrono> i got another 8gb hard drive, iw ish it worked
[22:40] <^TheCrono> it probably does i am jsut doing something wrong
[22:42] <intelikey> ^TheCrono yes three is ok.  but i'd make four like this.    20g(windows) [extended 6g(linux / system-root) 2g(swap)  52g(linux /home)]    reason for the seperate home partition is if you have to or want to reinstall linux you don't have any trouble with saving data  it's all in your home and you just don't reformat it.
[22:42] <^TheCrono> that sounds good
[22:42] <^TheCrono> i need need to elarn to delete shit lol
[22:42] <Vargoth> ok, i'm going to reinstall my kubuntu
[22:42] <^TheCrono> i ahve so much unused crap on my HD
[22:43] <elvirolo> Lynoure: i'm so stupid i can't remember what the ip of the modem is
[22:43] <Vargoth> maybe that could help my graphic problems
[22:43] <Vargoth> good night
[22:44] <thomas_newbie__> how do I restrict www.mydomain.com/phpbb directory from being accessed by people? I don't want that to be accessible right?
[22:46] <intelikey> thomas_newbie__ ummm change the permission on it ?    just a guess, i'm not a web devel
[22:46] <Alloosh> how come there is no answer? question again, I have home network, how do I connect ubuntu machine to the network so I would reach the internet?
[22:46] <Taggnostr> while installing should I set the swap as primary or logical partition?
[22:47] <intelikey> Alloosh you setup ipforwarding on the gateway and add the route to the linux box     route add default gw <ip.the.gateway.boxen>
[22:47] <intelikey> Taggnostr linux cares not.  so suit your self.
[22:48] <intelikey> Taggnostr the only restriction i can think of is the four primary limit
[22:49] <Alloosh> intelikey: I have ubuntu desktop connected to the internet, using a desl modem/router, and when I plug the other windows machines to the router they connect to internet, I got another ubuntu laptop here, and I plugged it and its not connecting, whats missing?
[22:49] <Taggnostr> ok, I only have root and swap
[22:49] <intelikey> Alloosh i know not.
[22:50] <intelikey> Alloosh you need networking help and that's my weak suit.
[22:50] <Alloosh> intelikey: thanks for the good well:)
[22:50]  * intelikey only wishes he had a dsl modem to play with.
[22:50] <ubuntu> hola
[22:50] <ubuntu> ups
[22:50] <killown|away> how do I to disable kde4 composite effects?
[22:51] <corinth> KDE4 settings > Desktop > untick desktop effects, killown|away
[22:51] <intelikey> Alloosh you might run kdenetworking on the lappy and see if it helps
[22:51] <intelikey> errr knetworking
[22:51] <killown|away> corinth ty
[22:52] <corinth> killown|away: Np.
[22:53] <intelikey> Taggnostr not of any import. but just a passing thought.  my hd doesn't even have a partition on it.
[22:53] <intelikey> so linux is very flexable
[22:53] <root__> hello there! is ther an easy way to reinstall kde? i managed to screw up in some way (am currently logged in to fluxbox via a startup script) because i could'nt log in with kdm... :S
[22:53] <intelikey> !puregnome
[22:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about puregnome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:54] <intelikey> hmmm ooops.
[22:55] <intelikey> !removekde
[22:55] <ubotu> Want to remove gnome/kde/xfce completely? Look at debfoster, it's a great help
[22:55] <intelikey> but that wasn't what i was looking for either.
[22:55] <Taggnostr> I'm installing it on virtual machine and last time I tried I had problems
[22:56] <intelikey> root__ there is a way to remove all of kde,   you could then install kubuntu-desktop and violoa
[22:56] <intelikey> root__ i can't find the howto right now.   maybe you could look for   remove kde   on google
[22:57] <root__> hmm.. :/ i can't login to kde... it screwed up after my last update, don't know what to do, so I in my desperation tried to install everythiong i could, and removed my .kde folder... :S
[22:57] <root__> intelikey ok...
[22:58] <intelikey> root__ alternatively   you can reinstall any given package with    apt-get install --reinstall package_name   but that would require something like   dpkg -l | grep kde     to get a list
[22:58] <root__> i just started this fluxbox and ran kicker
[22:58] <root__> ok
[22:59] <intelikey> root__ now.  your issue may not be what you think tho.   do you have any free hd space on our home dir ?
[23:00] <intelikey> for want of free space kde will fail to start.
[23:00] <root__> yes, I do like 20 gig
[23:00] <root__> oh.-
[23:00] <root__> that's not it. :(
[23:00] <intelikey> and if you have root owned file in your home you can have that problem.
[23:00] <intelikey> own your home
[23:01] <root__> i think i've like tries to install KDE4 on top of my original kde... :S
[23:01] <root__> tried*
[23:01] <root__> i wrote dpkg -l | grep kde
[23:01] <root__> and it says a lot of kde 4 stuff..
[23:01] <Taggnostr> what is the kde version with the latest version of kubuntu ?
[23:01] <root__> -_-
[23:02] <intelikey> howto own your home#   sudo chown <username_here> -R <home_dir_here>
[23:02] <intelikey> Taggnostr 3.5something  but 4 is avalable
[23:02] <Taggnostr> ok
[23:03] <intelikey> !kde4
[23:03] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:03] <intelikey> back in a few.
[23:09] <victor__> hola a todos
[23:09] <victor__> alguien habla español aquí?
[23:10] <Dragnslcr> !es
[23:10] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:10] <victor__> lista de canales?
[23:11] <Dr_willis> !medibuntu
[23:11] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[23:23] <corinth> Anyone have the Kopete problem where receiving / sending webcam crashes it?
[23:26]  * corinth hears crickets chirping.
[23:26] <pierreth> hello, my apache does not work with my .php files
[23:27] <pierreth> can someone help with the configuration?
[23:28] <blizzzek> bye
[23:28] <NickPresta> pierreth, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP. Specifically, check out the Troubleshooting section on PHP5
[23:28] <pierreth> NickPresta: thank you
[23:29] <genii> pierreth: Also you may find some assistance on these subjects of apache and web server things in the channel #ubuntu-server
[23:30] <pierreth> genii: OK
[23:31] <^TheCrono> does kubuntu use less resources than windows xp?
[23:32] <biovore> ^TheCrono: depends..
[23:32] <neville> TheCrono In my personal experience, they've been about the same, if not Kubuntu uses slightly less
[23:32] <neville> It just depends on what you do
[23:33] <biovore> yeah.. the advantage comes when you running multipule copies of things..  5 firefox's on windows = 5 * that of linux..
[23:33] <biovore> because of shared memory..
[23:34] <hydrogen> 1 copy of ff on linux 5*copies of opera on linux
[23:34] <hydrogen> = in there somewhere
[23:34] <snikker> i've got this error when i run vmware: "libpng12.so.0: no version information available" can you help me?
[23:37] <biovore> snikker: I don't think thats a problem.. should still run just fine..
[23:38] <^TheCrono> ok, kubuntu is done downloading :D
[23:38] <^TheCrono> time to backup stuff for a few hours
[23:39] <wimpies> Hi all, on my guts my firefox claims it cannot produce flash content.  flashplugin-nonfree is installed.  What could be wrong ?
[23:40] <chuck_> !help
[23:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[23:40] <stdin> wimpies: have you seen the topic?
[23:40] <chuck_> #help
[23:40] <chuck_> !help gamepad
[23:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help gamepad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:41] <^TheCrono> !help joystick
[23:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help joystick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:41] <^TheCrono> or amby...
[23:41] <^TheCrono> !help controller
[23:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help controller - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:41] <^TheCrono> oh well
[23:41] <stdin> !msgthebot
[23:41] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[23:42] <snikker> biovore: it don't run... :(
[23:42] <chuck_> Anyone know much about getting usb gamepads to work in edgy eft?
[23:42] <^TheCrono> edgy eft?
[23:43] <chuck_> just an older release of ubuntu
[23:43] <chuck_> 6.10
[23:43] <stdin> I'd guess you configure it in system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> joystick
[23:44] <wimpies> stdin : is firefox not a part of kubuntu ?
[23:44] <stdin> wimpies: it's not installed by default
[23:44] <stdin> konqueror is the default web browser
[23:44] <wimpies> stdin : yes I know but too many websites cause failures.
[23:45] <wimpies> Stdin : is the plugin still not fixed ?
[23:45] <stdin> ubotu: tell wimpies about fash   |  wimpies, see the private message from ubotu
[23:46] <^TheCrono> i currentlyhave 1 partition with windows on it, i want to keep windows..if i were to empty everythign else exept for windows, and broke my HD into 4 partitions, the aprtition that has windows installed..will it be damaged?..or do i *have* to reinstall windows
[23:46]  * genii hesitates to point out typos to stdin
[23:46] <wimpies> ubotu: tell wimpies about flash
[23:46] <stdin> yes, I'm on too many channels :p
[23:46] <stdin> !flash
[23:46] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[23:46] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[23:47] <stdin> ^TheCrono: should be ok, the installer can even do that for you
[23:48] <^TheCrono> can the intsall transfer files from one partition to another, so i won't have to save them to cd, then reload them onto HD?
[23:49] <stdin> ^TheCrono: you can do that manually, it won't touch your files
[23:49] <^TheCrono> i'm turning a 80gb windows ntfs system into 4 partitons, 20gb for windows, 6g extended for system/linux, 2gb swap, and rest as /home
[23:49] <^TheCrono> CAn it though?..i don't want to do that if i don't have to :D
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[23:49] <genii> ^TheCrono: Since you have access to Konsole before/during/after install, you can manually mount a partition and copy stuff over
[23:50] <genii> AAAAAAA ADBOT
[23:50] <^TheCrono> well, never mind actually, because i am reformatting
[23:50] <^TheCrono> so one way or another everything weill be deleted
[23:51] <^TheCrono> can i make my /home partition with kubuntu, format it, get it read, then transfer my files [not even 2gb worth] over to it, then partition and format the rest into the other 3 partitioons?
[23:51] <^TheCrono> like, get half of the HD ready, transfer the files i need, then do the other half
[23:52] <^TheCrono> or do i need to simply wipe the whole thing and start from scratch
[23:52] <^TheCrono> and one mroe thing, i got the cd, i don't think its live cd, so can i do all this from windows?
[23:52] <nalioth> hi stdin
[23:53] <mrdigital> bmk789: ?
[23:54] <stdin> ^TheCrono: you don't need to remove everything to resize it, just make sure you have enough free space available
[23:54] <^TheCrono> i'm delete everythign exept the stuff i want to transfer, and window
[23:55] <^TheCrono> i might even put all the stuff i am keeping into a .rar
[23:55] <^TheCrono> it jsut depends if i want to be doing computer stuff all night lol
[23:55] <^TheCrono> started at 1PM, its now 6PM and i have barely got kubuntu burned yet
[23:56] <billyd> I just discovered 12 bad files on the ISO that took 30 minutes to download.  Gonna buy a DVD
[23:56] <^TheCrono> i think i will need help thouhg, like, how to i make my windows partition my 'main' one..not for me, but windows hates not being main
[23:57] <^TheCrono> or teh first to boot one or how ever that works
[23:57] <^TheCrono> i want to boot to linux, but i want to be able to use windows jsut in case
[23:57] <^TheCrono> and can i make kubuntu require a password before it loads anything?
[23:59] <stdin> ^TheCrono: the installer will take care of most of that for you (settings windows up to be the 1st partition and allowing you yo boot it). and you'll have to supply a username and password to login to kubuntu anyway
[23:59] <Taggnostr> I installed kubuntu \o/