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siriusnovaanyone know anything about the status of this bug?00:10
siriusnovahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/15051900:10
ubotuLaunchpad bug 150519 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "radeon driver can not do xv with AIGLX enabled" [Undecided,Confirmed]00:10
siriusnova:((00:10
Cyclonuthowdy00:15
Cyclonuthows heron breakin00:15
Cyclonutor rather, how much is heron breakin?00:16
zmanjiwho do I talk to if I think a package should be installed by default ?00:16
DanaGcrimsun: since you're here now, I'd like to ask: do you have any insight into this (previously better-named) bug:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boinc/+bug/177713   ?00:16
ubotuLaunchpad bug 177713 in boinc "CFS in 2.6.24 kernel needs cpu_share adjustment for "niced" processes" [Medium,Confirmed]00:16
zmanjithis is a crtical driver package00:16
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Cyclonutbd: I think you need to file a bug on launchpad00:17
Cyclonutor an 'issue'00:17
[swb]hi everyone00:20
[swb]I was wondering if someone could tell me what version if any of projectM will be included when hardy releases00:20
Hobbseesiriusnova: it's confirmed.  like the bug says.00:23
Hobbseebd: which package?00:23
bdhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/admin/linux-wlan-ng00:23
bd"The linux-ubuntu-modules package ships the necessary kernel modules. This package ships utilities and integration scripts to make above cards work seamlessly with the Ubuntu network infrastructure."00:23
bdthe kernel modules are useless without this00:23
bdwhen one uses the livecd, without this the wireless device cannot be used00:24
bdso if a new user were to read that his device was linux supported, and then placed the livecd in00:24
bdit would not work, because the package is not installed00:24
Hobbseebd: er, is it on the cd, but not installed?00:24
bdyes00:25
Hobbseebd: email ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com about it00:25
bdalright Hobbsee00:27
Cyclonutquick question: I need to run a bash script that uses sudo within it. I dont want to have to enter the password. Is there a way around this?00:28
bdCyclonut no00:29
bdHobbsee, what should the content of my message be ?00:29
bdI'm not familar with the mailing list00:29
Cyclonuttis a bummer. I believe there is a way to do it in mac OS, thought there might be a way in linux00:30
Hobbseebd: please install foo by default, due to blah.00:31
bdok00:31
Hobbseewhere blah is the rationale as to why00:31
DanaGIf you don't mind the security risk, you can setuid the script, but it can be dangerous -- it give the whole script root access without password.00:35
bdHobbsee, sent email, hopefully some one will respond00:36
blueyedIs it correct that nividia-glx-new and linux-restricted-modules do not match in Hardy currently?00:39
* Hobbsee despams ubuntu-devel@00:40
blueyedHobbsee: my nouveau/X/whatever just crashed, have you answered over in #launchpad?00:41
`MatirWhy is it that plugins show up in Firefox 2, but not Firefox 3?  For example, there's no totem plugin and no java plugin.00:42
Hobbseeblueyed: no.  i don't know00:42
CyclonutDanaG: thanks for that00:43
CyclonutDanaG: researching setuid how00:43
Cyclonut(now)00:43
DanaGI had to do that to the 'sonar' xscreensaver to get it to ping.00:44
blueyedIs anybody using the binary nvidia drivers (nvidia-glx-new)?00:48
burnerdoes nautilus in hardy save your user credentials if you login to an sftp server that isn't on the default port?  I'm having issues with it saving my user and pass when connecting to an sftp server on port 22200:49
* DanaG uses nvidia-glx-new.00:56
* blueyed cannot, because the nividia-kernel does not match the driver (X does not start)01:00
DanaGOdd.01:02
blueyedSee http://pastebin.com/m38f14869 for exact versions. In fact, l-r-m-2.6.24-4 provides a 96.x kernel..01:02
DanaGI haven't updated anything recently, though.01:03
blueyed2.6.22 kernel maybe?01:03
DanaGs/recently/today/01:03
DanaGLinux GLaDOS 2.6.24-4-generic #1 SMP Mon Jan 14 17:30:39 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux01:03
DanaGMake sure the old nvidia-glx is removed, perhaps.01:03
* blueyed hasn't updated either, was using nouveau the last days. ok, will check.01:04
blueyedWasn't installed. But I've installed it now, reinstalled -new and will test now. Anyway, now I'm quite sure that it's a problem just here..01:07
blueyedwell.. had to "modprobe -r nvidia" once and now it works.. Thanks.01:14
siriusnovaAnyone here ever shrink their ntfs partition and merge the free space with the ubuntu side?01:23
siriusnovaI dunno how :S01:23
DanaGWhat OS is the NTFS partition from?01:23
DanaGIf it's Vista, you can shrink it from within Vista.01:23
DanaGEither way, you'd then use gparted from a liveCD to resize the Ubuntu partition.01:24
siriusnovaXP01:24
DanaGgparted can shrink ntfs.01:24
siriusnovaDanaG - so if say my drive is 100gb, and currently its 20gb Ubuntu and 80gb XP, i can shrink XP to 20gb and merge the 60gb into the ubuntu side01:24
DanaGWell, it depends on the order of the partitions.01:25
DanaGNTFS can only be shrunk leftwards, I believe.01:25
siriusnovadarn01:25
siriusnovahow well does ntfs-3g work for reading and writing?01:26
siriusnovai may just leave it as is01:26
DanaGntfs-3g errs on the side of caution -- if it can't do something safely, it won't even try.  (That's a good thing.)01:26
DanaGThe only annoyance is when it's uncleanly unmounted, such as when either Windows or Linux lock up and you hard-poweroff.01:27
DanaGThen you have to boot Windows and let it run chkdsk if need be.01:27
siriusnovaherm k01:27
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pwnguinis there a guide on the wiki for setting up Ubuntu as a host access point?02:39
fred_2hi - how to obtain the kernel sources/includes for hardy ?02:55
Matirfred_2, do you want headers or sources?02:56
fred_2i think headers02:57
fred_2,)02:57
fred_2i want to install vmware player02:57
fred_2and it asks for /usr/src/linux/include02:57
Matiryou probably want linux-headers-generic02:57
fred_2oh - good point02:57
fred_2lemme check02:57
groovesaladhelp, i get error unable to mount loop file system when trying to install (actually error comes when installing pclinuxos, ubuntu cds just freeze, cds have worked on other computers) my system has onboard vga but its disabled, using addon card. ive tried failsafe options. windows will install fine. harddrive mbr has been written to many times but i formated it with gparted (i dont know if that helps though).02:58
Matirthat usually means the install CD may not recognize the controller for your optical drive02:59
groovesaladtried same optical drive from a diff comp inwhich cd installed02:59
groovesaladtried a sony optical drive and 2 hps03:00
Matiryeah, but it's the controller that might be the problem (on the motherboard)03:00
Matirwhat kind of motherboard is it?03:00
groovesaladcheap m909g pcchips03:00
groovesaladlastest bios installed03:01
groovesaladdamn that sucks if thats the case03:02
fred_2strange - searched for linux-source and didnt find anything03:03
fred_2now its there03:03
Matirlet me see if I can find the specs03:03
* fred_2 wonders03:03
UnNaturalHighgroovesalad, have you tried both noapic/nolapic?03:03
groovesaladi dont think ive tried nolapic, ill try03:04
groovesaladblast, no luck with nolacip and noacip, i tried a different harddrive too03:22
Matirgroovesalad, you did use "noapic" and "nolapic", right?03:27
fred_2i'm unable to compile the std-kernel in hardy03:30
groovesaladya03:30
fred_2http://pastebin.ca/86807003:31
xnixanyone in here use miro player in hardy heron?03:31
groovesaladin safeboot option with pclinuxos it had it, lol i didnt mistype03:31
groovesaladi probably would have though03:32
groovesaladhmm it works with onboard vga, but not with agpcard03:50
Matirtry installing on onboard, then you can get latest drivers for agp03:53
groovesaladwill try, thanks all04:09
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ccookeHmm... Localisation in Hardy is broken atm?07:03
Tomcat_`ccooke: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/130607:06
Tomcat_`ccooke: Probably to do with this news ;)07:06
ccookeTomcat_`: not quite - I mean that the locale isn't set at all.07:06
ccookewhich means some real strangeness with fonts and terminals :-)07:07
ccookeit's all fixable, though07:07
ccookehah. Sorted.07:14
ccookeThe Hardy installer is not currently setting your locale at all. This will cause oddities in X, for a start, since certain characters will be unavailable in your fonts.07:15
ccooke(it can also cause terminal corruption if you're using programs that are trying to talk UTF8 - they'll send a two or even four byte string that should be rendered as one character. Your terminal isn't in UTF8 mode, so renders it as several... and thus your screen breaks.07:16
ccookethe fix is simple - find the correct locale string for your country (mine's "en_GB.UTF8", for instance) and set it in /etc/environment and /etc/default/gdm by adding the line "LANG=en_GB.UTF8" (for instance).07:17
ccookethen restart gdm.07:18
ccooke(this is where previous versions of Ubuntu set the system locale - up to and including Gutsy)07:19
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brubelsabsHi, will be Hardy Heron FHS 2.3 compliant?09:54
brubelsabsam I wrong here?09:57
TheInfinitybronson: just the wrong time ;)10:01
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brubelsabsso bye10:35
Oli``I'm having problems with PulseAudio. The server can't start because it always things hw:0 is busy. Any suggestions?11:02
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Gninefspot slideshow feature is inoperable11:45
Oli``Anybody else here getting pink halos around tooltips, windows, etc?13:14
Oli``like this: http://i.thepcspy.com/oli/pink.png13:17
thomas__Oli``: if it weren't pink it would be nice :)13:17
Oli``Strange thing is it disappears once I restart compiz13:18
robertj_How does vmware-server fare on hardy these days?13:47
thomas__what do you mean?13:48
mrtimdogHow do you get Qt3/4 fonts anti-aliased?13:58
robertj_thomas__: does it work properly?14:02
thomas__robertj_: it works propperly on 7.1014:12
thomas__thats all I know14:12
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hibbertmy fritz wlan usb stick is not recognized as in ubuntu 7.10 :(14:59
hibbertin 7.10 it worked automaticaly and in 8.04 nothing happens14:59
hibbertheeeeeeelp^^ ... this is the only reason that keeps me from using ubuntu at the moment :(15:02
thomas__hibbert, then go back to 7.1015:02
thomas__as it is the stable release15:03
thomas__8.04 isn't final yet15:03
bazhanghibbert: this is alpha 3; three more alphas to go--best go back as thomas__ says15:03
hibberti dont want to install the driver myself - cause maybe the kernel module will be included later... but it seems as if the module is in the kernel but doesnt work15:03
thomas__don't you listen to anything thats been said to you?15:05
bazhangnot meant to be stable hibbert this is for the  hearty souls who want broken stuff and fix it then15:05
hibbertyes i know ^^15:05
bazhanghibbert: coming in here and saying help three months before release will likely fall on deaf ears15:06
hibbertthis is the reason why i ask about the drivers ;)15:06
bazhangask = heeeeelp?15:06
hibbertit would already help me if you could tell me if the the modules will work as in 7.10 later or the modules wont be included in 8.0415:07
thomas__hibbert: normally they will be included15:08
bazhanghibbert: my intel 3945 wireless isnt either in this latest alpha--and it is probably the best support card out there15:08
bazhangsupported *15:08
hibbertgood - then i will not install the driver myself and wait until it will be included15:08
hibbertthx15:08
Hobbseebazhang: got the ubuntu modules?15:09
bazhangHobbsee: well, I just installed the alpha and this was without a net connection; will do so now that I have ethernet thanks!15:09
ccookebazhang: 3945 is working on my laptop. Note that the module name has changed from ipw3945 to ip*l*394515:11
bazhangccooke: from the alpha 3 installer? or just upgrading the alpha 215:12
ccookeoops, sorry - iwl3945, not ipl394515:13
bazhangccooke: not that it makes a difference--I just like to do a fresh install for each alpha to get a feel how it is improving :}15:13
bazhangthanks ccooke!15:13
ccookebazhang: installed on Saturday15:13
bazhangnice15:13
Oli``I'm having an audio nightmare - PulseAudio seems to be hogging ALSA, while not allowing anything to connect to it... Is there an easy way I can just nuke all my audio settings to go back to a "clean" alpha3 config?15:13
ccookeI *think* that was alpha 3, but I'm not at home atm - my work machine is quite firmly gutsy still :-)15:14
bazhanghehe15:14
bazhanggoing to be hard to beat gutsy imo15:14
ccookeoh, I dunno15:14
ccookegutsy's been the worst released Ubuntu for me15:15
bazhangyeah you are probably right15:15
bazhangfeisty was bad for me but great for most15:15
ccookethe wireless issues were *terrible*15:15
bazhangand vice versa with gutsy15:15
ccookethe fact is, hardy is *already* more usable than gutsy was15:15
Oli``Gutsy was the first one that I could run on my main rig (finally allowing me to move off Windows) so it was a pretty important release for me15:15
bazhangtrue in some respects15:16
ccookeI don't have to disable and re-enable network manager every time I come back from suspend :-)15:16
bazhangthough the lost and found window has like 100 items in it15:16
ccookeOli``: oh, I know that bad for me != bad for everyone :-)15:16
Oli``sure15:16
ccookeI think Gutsy did have some wireless problems, though15:17
bazhangnot being critical of hardy though15:17
bazhangit is the nicest alpha one in human memory imo15:17
ccooke(and for all I say it's the 'worst', note that I'm running Gutsy on... two desktops, one laptop and a server)15:17
Oli``Anyone know if there's a specific Hardy subforum on ubuntuforums.org?15:18
bazhang(not including warty obviously )15:18
ccooke(and my only complaint is the laptop that's now hardy. Admittedly that's my main machine, but...)15:18
Oli``nvm, found it15:18
danbhfiveanyone here know about packaging and MIME types?15:18
ccookedanbhfive: depends what you want15:20
ccookedanbhfive: what's the problem?15:20
danbhfiveccooke: well, I just started a project that involves a python script and an input file.  Eventually, I would like it to be in a package, and I would like the input files to be associated with the python script15:21
danbhfivesomeone said that linux uses MIME types for the second one15:21
ccookedanbhfive: it does, but this isn't the right place to ask about it15:22
danbhfivewhats the right place?15:22
ccookedanbhfive: #ubuntu would be a good start. This is #ubuntu+1, for discussion of the next ubuntu release15:22
danbhfiveccooke: ok, hmmm, I thought ubuntu was non-programming related15:23
danbhfiveccooke: but I'll try there anyway15:24
ccookedanbhfive: pass. It may be they'll know the right place to ask, at least15:24
nanonyme#ubuntu+1 is testing for the next release15:24
nanonymedifferent than #ubuntu :)15:24
ccookedanbhfive: what you're after would be a gnome or kde specific question, come to think of it15:24
ccookedanbhfive: and they *will* have dev channels15:25
danbhfiveok, what about packaging something for the next release of ubuntu15:25
danbhfivewould this be the correct channel for _that_ question?15:26
ccookenot really. I doubt any new package you created *now* would get in15:26
* ccooke checks :-)15:26
danbhfiveactually, nvm, i think I found ubuntu-motu15:26
ccookeNope - debian-import freeze began on December the 13th15:27
ccookedanbhfive: ah, excellent.15:27
danbhfiveccooke: heh, I think I started the project after that date  :p15:28
ccookeHmm. Actually, it seems I may have misunderstood - there's a "New packages Freeze Universe" scheduled for February the 28th, so it's just about possible, I guess...15:32
kripkenWhat is the recommended way to install the binary NVidia driver? I see the restricted drivers manager isn't installed in the base system, is that because it won't work?15:43
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ccookekripken: which version of Ubuntu are you using?15:57
kripkenHardy :)15:59
blkorpheusI just download from nvidia and follow the readme16:01
kripkenblkorpheus: But then there are issues when the kernel is upgraded, no?16:02
blkorpheusnothing new there16:03
kripkenyeah, I guess16:04
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ccookekripken: can't you install nvidia-glx-new ?16:06
ccooke(or nvidia-glx)16:07
kripkenccooke: I can, usually I used restricted-drivers-manager though. Any idea why it isn't installed by default anymore?16:07
ccookenone16:08
ccookeI actually ran it manually and used that to enable nvida16:09
kripkenok, thanks16:09
kripkenoh, one other question: how do I decide which driver to user (nv or nvidia)? I see xorg.conf doesn't have that anymore16:09
blkorpheus/usr/bin/mythfrontend.real: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libmyth-0.20.2.so.0: undefined symbol: stat6416:10
ccookeand that's why I used the restricted manager - it makes the right changes for you16:10
ccookehowever, the nvidia package has a tool to do it16:11
ccookeI suspect that's what the manager uses16:11
kripkenccooke: ok, thanks16:15
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optxHi16:45
optxcan somebody help me please ? i installed hardy and as i made a update now, HAL is not updated and crashes my ubu :(16:46
`Matiroptx, what seems to be the problem?16:52
optxnobody here oder no help ?16:52
optxoh ^^ hi Matir16:53
blkorpheuslatest updates broke many things16:54
blkorpheusX16:54
blkorpheusmyth16:54
optxmy problem is, that i can not 'check' HAL in the update list. When i do a update it says no HAL and the system freezes my internet connection too ..16:54
optxhope i xplained it right, im from germany and my englisch is not the best ^^16:55
`Matiroptx, have you tried a dist-upgrade?16:55
optxwhat do you mean with dist- upgarde ? apt get .... ??16:56
optxmy ubuntu is new now. I formated my hdd today and then the is a symbol for *** updates are here do you want to download them ? In this list hal is not checkt, and i cant check it :(16:58
optxi changed the software sources from 'germany' to 'Main' but didn't help16:59
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tretlethe busybox login a common bug in the installer?17:06
optxcould not calculate the upgrade17:11
tretleoptx , try logging in as admin in the terminal17:13
tretlesudo blah17:13
tretleif you cant log in then thats the problem17:14
tretleyou probably changed the domain name and its not carrying over in the .config file17:14
tretleRight, I was using hardy on my primary partition, repartitioned the drive and want to install hardy onto the third partition.. Using the alpha 3 cd this time last time i dist-upgraded from gutsy .. Would apreciate it if someone could tell me if this is a known bug or not17:16
optxhmm worked i made sudo nautilus and it run17:16
tretlegood..... because at least whatever your problem is its fixable... nothing worse than being stuck with user privileges on an unstable os17:17
optxlol sure17:18
tretleare you downloading from the main server or your local server?17:18
tretleif local set it to main just incase17:18
optxdid but did not help :(17:18
ccookeoptx: You're trying to update hal, but it's greyed out - is that the case?17:18
optxjup17:19
tretlehave you tried to fix broken packages?17:19
ccookeRight. That means it's on hold - it's not currently installable17:19
ccookedon't worry about it17:19
ccookeit means there's a later version in the package pool, but that version conflicts with important things in your system.17:20
optxbut when i update the rest (196 things) my ubu crashes .. so not install anything ?17:20
ccookewhen you say "your ubu crashes"... could you be more specific?17:20
ccookewhat exactly happens?17:20
optxlol sorry17:20
tytilassonHave run an upgrade on 8.04 Alpha3 and now get a HAL failed on logon, and no network connection. Any ideas anyone?17:20
ccookeDoes the update manager crash? Your desktop environment, taking you back to the login? The entire system?17:21
optxlol tytilasson say xactly my problem17:21
optxno internet con. and the HAL fail17:21
tytilassonlol! I didnt think it'd be unique17:21
ccookeoptx: I see.17:21
ccookehmm17:21
ccookewell, how handy with the shell are you?17:22
tytilassonon logon, get a crash report and a pop up "Internal Error failed to initialize HAL!"17:22
optxright17:22
ccookeAh, right. So you can still log in to the graphical environment. That's not too bad :-)17:22
optxbut internet is gone too :(17:23
ccookeI can see one thing that *might* be a quick fix. It may not be possible, though17:23
ccookecan you open a shell, please?17:23
tytilassonThere's no network connectivity, and trying to "unlock" the network settings gives "could not authenticate"17:23
ccooketytilasson: you won't get any further with that if HAL is broken17:24
optxhow do i open a shell ?17:24
ccookeApplications -> Accessories -> Terminal17:25
tytilassonany ideas what might've broken it? It was a clean install of Alpha3 followed by an update.17:25
optxlol terminal is sehll ok17:25
optxwhat now ?17:26
ccookein the shell...17:26
ccookels -l /var/cache/apt/archives/hal* /var/cache/apt/archives/libhal*17:26
ccookeand could you put the result in a pastebin?17:27
tytilassonno such file or directory for the hal*17:29
optxls: /var/cache/apt/archives/hal*: No such file or directory17:29
optxls: /var/cache/apt/archives/libhal*: No such file or directory17:29
optxno need 4 pastebin ^^17:30
ccookedrat17:30
ccookedo you have the alpha3 cd?17:30
optxyes17:30
ccookeWhat I'm suggesting is to see if you can switch hal back to the previous version17:30
tytilassonI do get a response for the libhal archive17:31
ccooketytilasson: just one?17:32
tytilasson217:32
ccooketytilasson: what versions?17:34
tytilasson1_0.5.10-5ubuntu3_i38617:35
optxFixed in hal_0.5.10-5ubuntu3_i386. Since I lost my Ethernet and everything, I had to download new packages in Windows and copy them to Ubuntu.17:36
optxHal: http://ee.archive.ubuntu.com/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/h/hal/libhal1_0.5.10-5ubuntu3_i386.deb17:36
optxAnd it's depencies: http://ee.archive.ubuntu.com/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/p/policykit/policykit_0.7-2ubuntu2_i386.deb17:36
optxhttp://ee.archive.ubuntu.com/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/p/policykit/libpolkit2_0.7-2ubuntu2_i386.deb17:36
optxlook here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/18441017:36
ubotuLaunchpad bug 184410 in hal "hal fails to initialize in hardy alpha 3 after upgrade" [Undecided,New]17:36
tytilassonsounds about right ubotu17:36
ccookeah ha. That's nice and quick.17:37
optxi found it but i have a 64 bit :(17:37
optxno help 4 me ^^17:37
Iuliantretle: That's because you have changed your hostname. Edit the kernel from grub and add rw init=/bin/bash to the end of the line then change your /etc/hosts file with your current hostname.17:39
IulianThat should do the trick.17:40
tytilassonso it seems like the HAL update process stuffs it up a bit then!17:41
LionRockhumm after update I get: kontact: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so: undefined symbol: fstat6419:35
WorkingOnWisewhy would I have to stop the xserver, do a /sbin/ldconfig and a /sudo /sbin/depmod -aq and a nvidia-x19:41
WorkingOnWiseconfig, and then restat the xserver before the video will work for 3d?19:41
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Oli``Anyone know how to get speaker-test to work with pulseaudio (or know another app that does the same job for pulse)?20:35
RainCTHi20:45
RainCThas gnome-open a manpage in Hardy?20:45
PC-Entehi20:47
LinAsHRainCT, no, just '--help'20:48
PC-Entei installed ubuntu hardy on my PC to test ist, also with kde420:48
RainCTLinAsH: thanks20:48
PC-Entebut when i try to start kde4, it says can not find kdeinit420:49
LinAsHPC-Ente, using GDM?20:50
PC-Enteyes... kdm-kde4 wount start...20:50
LinAsHwould you pastbin your /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop ?20:52
PC-Entekoay20:52
PC-Enteokay20:52
LupusEhi folks20:53
PC-Enteso what to pastebin,20:53
PC-Entehere is all gone20:53
PC-Entedont know what i button i prest, but the hole chat is gone, just clear window20:54
LinAsHwell nothing wrong here ;)20:54
LinAsHPC-Ente-kde4, you've got 2 nicks now...20:56
PC-Enteyes because i have an "Test"PC for Hardy20:58
PC-Enteso i dont crash my Working-PC20:58
PC-Enteand i should paste something from the kde420:59
PC-Entebut i dont know what because i cleared the chat, but nobody wants to tell me what it was...20:59
LinAsHPC-Ente, so it was /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop21:01
PC-Entethanks21:01
PC-Ente-kde4http://rafb.net/p/FFnOIj94.html21:03
PC-Enteso that is it21:03
_StefanS_anyone noticed that composite extension is borked in the latest version (1.4.1~git20080118-1ubuntu2)21:03
_StefanS_I get segmentation faults when probing with glxinfo.21:04
LinAsH_StefanS_, I stopped using it in Hardy... so unstable21:04
_StefanS_LinAsH: stopped using composite?21:05
LinAsHyes21:05
_StefanS_LinAsH: I could try to explicitly disable it ofcourse..21:05
_StefanS_thanks.21:05
LinAsHPC-Ente, you've got the same file as me, perhaps try to add /usr/lib/kde4/bin to your PATH21:05
PC-Entein the kde4.deskop file ?21:06
LinAsHPC-Ente, no in ~/.bashrc21:07
PC-Enteis tihs ironic ?21:07
LinAsHno why?21:08
PC-Entesry, looked like21:08
LinAsHPC it's just that must kd4 apps are there and its not in the default path so it can't do any bad21:10
PC-Enteokay, but im just a bid wired, where to write this... in .bashrc21:11
PC-Enteand how to21:11
PC-Entelie PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin ust anywere ... or what ?21:11
LinAsHPC-Ente, just do gedit ~/.bashrc21:12
LinAsHand add 'export PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/kde4/bin' at the end of the file21:13
PC-Enteokay i didt21:14
PC-Entebut i still get a windows with "Could not start kdeinit4, check your installtion"21:14
LinAsHAre you sure you don't miss any package... like kdebas-kde4?21:16
PC-Enteyes, checkt all packages21:16
PC-Entekdebase-kde4 is installed21:16
LinAsHdoes /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kdeinit4 exist?21:16
PC-Enteyes21:17
LinAsHPC-Ente, ok so it definitely has something to do with the PATH variable not being set correctly21:18
PC-Enteokay, thanks, but i think i'll try another time21:19
LinAsHPC-Ente, I got your answer, it's in /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde21:29
Infectocan some one tell me how is it call this new ati fglrx driver installer?21:31
=== Sebast1an is now known as Sebastian
wastrellots of updates23:13
rskyey23:14
blkorpheusnone fix what were broken23:21
rsk:]23:21
rskbut did it fix bug #1 ?23:21
ubotuLaunchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123:21
blkorpheuslol23:22
RAOFAwesome.  Pulseaudio 0.9.8 has better over-the-network support.  No more stuttering!23:28

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