/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/01/22/#ubuntu-ops.txt

ubotuIn ubotu, soundray said: thunar =~ s/alternative/alternative to/00:48
LjL!thunar00:52
ubotuthunar is a File Manager for XFCE. It is a lightweight alternative Nautilus and is quite similar. More info at: http://thunar.xfce.org/index.html - Want to Replace Nautilus with Thunar? see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease00:52
LjL!thunar =~ s/alternative/alternative to/00:52
ubotuI'll remember that LjL00:52
wyclifi cannot join #ubuntu01:09
ogrehey can you huys test me for that stupid router bug? I fixed it but I cant join #ubuntu01:10
ogrewyclif:  did you follow instructions for repAIR?01:10
wyclifrepair?  why?01:10
ogrewyclif:  its a router bug. you mean you didnt read instructions?01:10
wyclifogre: i'm in the wrong channel01:11
wyclifi just want to change channels01:11
Tm_Tyes01:11
LjLogre: he's here for a different reason.01:11
ogrewyclif:  looking for #ubuntu?01:11
ogreahhh01:11
LjLogre: you weren't able to join because of some glitch in the bots. you can join now01:11
wyclifogre: yes01:11
wyclifogre: ok. thanks!01:11
ogrethanks LjL01:11
LjLwyclif: i'm afraid you've pushed your luck a bit far in order to rejoin #ubuntu without some amount of talk in here first01:11
wyclifogre: apparently LjL decided to get heavy handed with a user01:12
wyclifogre: i was kicked off the channel for using the bot according to IRC rules01:12
ogrewyclif:  you should alsways listen to ops. its none of my business. dont involve me01:13
wyclifogre: for greeting new people using the bot and being friendly in general.  wow, #ubuntu is getting to be like #debian that way...01:13
wyclifogre: ok, so I chatted a bit.01:13
Tm_Twyclif: can I hug you?01:13
wyclifTm_T: yes01:14
Tm_Togre: can we help you in some else?01:14
wyclifogre: well, I was told by LjL I had to say some things here01:14
wyclifi really just want to join #ubuntu01:14
Tm_Twyclif: yes yes, none of them have to do with ogre01:14
LjL[02:07:28] <wyclif> soundray you have trouble comprehending english? i'm saying i used it exactly the way it's supposed to be used.  capiche?01:15
LjLthat was the last thing you said01:15
wyclifLjL that's right.01:15
LjLsee, aside from the obviously unacceptable attitude towards soundray,01:15
wyclif*sigh*01:15
LjLthere is an intrinsic problem. how is the bot "supposed to be used"? who decides how it is?01:15
LjLwell, it's simple - us.01:15
wyclifLjL gosh, I just wanna join #ubuntu!01:15
LjLso if i tell you that's not the way to use it, it means it's not the way to use it.01:15
wyclifLjL, yes sir!  how high, sir!01:16
LjLwyclif, you tried pretty hard to get yourself banned from there. you could have thought about it earlier.01:16
wyclif*groveling*01:16
Tm_Twhats groveling?01:16
wyclifHEH01:16
Tm_Twyclif: anyway, you say, you disagree with us, but we should just let you go?01:17
wyclif*sigh* whatever dude.  can I rejoin #ubuntu now01:17
Tm_Twyclif: no, we don't let you in if we don't believe you will follow the rules01:17
wyclifTm_T no, not you.01:17
Tm_Twyclif: why not me?01:17
wyclifTm_T because i recall you had nothing to do with it.01:17
ogreok, thanks. wyclif I can tell you that you are pushing yr luck though01:18
ogreok im out01:18
ogre*poof*01:18
wyclifogre: yes you may.  thanks.  may I rejoin #ubuntu now that I've taken my lashing?01:18
LjLwyclif, do you see the +'s, or green lights, or whatever it is on your client, that some users in here have? those identify the users who *do* have to do with stuff that happens in #ubuntu.01:18
Tm_Togre: thanks and have fun01:18
wyclifLjL thanks but I've been on IRC since *1987*01:19
LjLmeh01:19
LjLirc was created in 198801:19
Tm_T"created" :-P01:19
LjLwhate'er01:19
Tm_Tin sensible way he couldn't been "around" until ~90 or so, but I even doubt 9901:20
nalioth1987, eh?01:21
Tm_Tprolly born that year01:21
matissehello01:33
LjLhi01:33
matissei was banned in #ubuntu because of uberscript01:33
matissei turned the functions off now01:33
matissesorry for that01:33
LjLmatisse: and you had *two* bots like that in the channel?01:34
matisseno01:34
matissei dont have bots01:34
matisseactually01:34
LjLthen why were two users automatically responding to your !give commands?01:34
matisse?01:35
matissewrong way01:35
matissedo you want to test it ? Seems like I was faster or something like that01:35
LjL!give test test01:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about give test test - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:36
matisseactually, i ask myself why bsod2 typed that command01:36
matisse1 sec01:36
LjLmatisse: yes, i see now that you were one of those two "bots".01:36
LjLmatisse: you can rejoin now. please keep in mind that bots and automatic scripts (except ubotu of course) are strictly disallowed in #ubuntu01:37
matisseyes, no problem01:37
matissei apprechiate your work there01:37
Tm_Tmatisse: and remember to have fun ;)01:38
matisseso, it's not my intention to do such stuff01:38
matissenow is see01:40
matisse<neeto> I want to be able to play call of duty on ubuntu, but punkbuster won't install in wine... is there a way to get around this?01:40
matisse<bsod2> !give neeto wine01:40
Tm_T...01:40
matissesenseless... :-)01:41
matisseLjL: did you post "!give test test" to check if I am a bot ?01:41
LjLmatisse: to test if your script was still in place.01:42
matisseah, ok01:42
mneptok!give ME_COOKIE!01:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about give me_cookie! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:42
* matisse gives still a cup01:43
matisse!give still works ;-)01:43
matisseso, thanks for unbanning01:44
matissegn801:44
mneptokg'nate?01:56
Tm_Toh why I don't have op rights on #ubuntu-offtopic02:19
LjLwasn't unagi banned to begin with?02:20
Tm_Twas, is he still?02:21
LjLTm_T: yes02:22
Tm_TLjL: then time to remind him?02:22
Tm_Tnot my job though02:22
LjLi did02:22
Tm_Toooh02:22
unagiwhat time would i expect it to be lifted or when should i request?02:22
LjLunagi, i think you should come back tomorrow and ask seveas02:23
unagiok i wasnt aware it wasnt lifted02:23
unagii dont really know why it joined to tell you the truth i never reconnected02:23
Tm_Tit wont be lifted until you ask so, I afraid ;)02:23
unagioh wait, yea i did because i switched my xorg......i apologize02:24
Piciwyclif: Can we help you?02:27
wyclifyes, actually02:28
wyclifi cannot join #ubuntu02:29
Tm_Tstill02:29
wyclifyeah.02:29
* Pici scrolls up02:30
PiciTm_T: looks like you know whats going on here.  /me poofs02:30
wyclifi was actually going to ask a question about openssh, but for some reason i cannot join, it appears my ISP has been banned.02:30
Tm_Twyclif: you remember why you were banned?02:31
naliothwyclif: ##linux or #openssh can help you02:31
LjLshort term memory loss02:31
Tm_T:)02:31
LjLan interesting condition02:31
Tm_TLjL: :))02:31
wyclifah, thanks.  No, actually I have no idea.02:31
Tm_Twyclif: interesting, somehow I do these days02:31
wyclif???02:31
LjLwyclif: was IRC good in 1987?02:31
wyclifwhat's that?02:32
LjLwyclif you know what02:32
wyclifhmmm.  i thought this was the ops channel02:32
Tm_Tnoooooo02:32
Tm_Twyclif: this is02:32
Tm_TLjL: don't do it yet02:32
LjLTm_T: :(02:32
PiciI thought I was confused before, perhaps my scrollback is in some sort of bizarro -ops channel.02:32
wyclifhm.  well, I was on that channel this morning.  I come back from work, I'm banned.  not sure I understand.02:34
wyclifit does appear my IP has been banned, which is odd.02:34
Tm_Thow you found out your IP is banned?02:34
LjLtroooooooooooooooooooooooooooll02:34
wyclifi checked.02:34
Tm_Thow?02:34
PiciLjL: gezundheit02:35
Tm_TLjL: shush02:35
wyclifyou're welcome.02:35
LjLPici: geSundheit02:35
wyclifwow, is this really an #ubuntu channel?02:35
Tm_Twyclif: no, #ubuntu-ops02:35
wyclifhmm.02:35
Tm_Twyclif: how did you check you're banned?02:35
wyclifI thought I could get some answers here.  Other times I've asked, that channel has been helpful.02:36
Tm_Twyclif: yes yes, how you checked you are banned02:36
Piciwyclif: this isn't #ubuntu, this is #ubuntu-ops, note that theres 43 people here, not 104302:36
wyclifTm_T I tried to join, I was informed I was banned.02:36
Tm_Twyclif: that doesn't say your IP is banned02:36
wyclifyes, I realise that.  I'm trying to join #ubuntu.  that's why I'm on the ops channel, asking.02:36
Tm_T:)02:36
Tm_Twyclif: you are banned because your hostile attitude02:37
wyclifthat's weird, because I didn't think my username was banned02:37
Tm_Thow so?02:37
wyclifTm_T what?02:37
mneptok<wyclif> LjL I think I'll use it the way it's supposed to be used, kthxbai02:37
mneptoklike so ^^^^02:37
wyclifI didn't write that!02:37
Tm_Tyou did02:37
Tm_Twyclif: if it wasn't you, who then?02:37
wyclifnope, I didn't.  I just got home from work, actually.02:37
mneptokwyclif: you were asked to stop certain behaviors by ops. you responded with a flat-out "no."02:37
wyclifwhat???!!!02:38
wyclifwhen was this?02:38
LjLwyclif: p'haps it was your brother02:38
mneptokthis afternoon02:38
Tm_Tmneptok: what timezone? ;)02:38
wyclifI wasn't even here this afternoon.  Hmmmm02:38
wyclifugh...02:38
Tm_Twyclif: one and a half an hour ago02:38
mneptokwyclif: it's your IP address02:39
wyclifHmmm.  I wonder if it was my roommate02:39
Tm_Tip, ident, nick...02:39
wyclifon my computer.02:39
Tm_Twyclif: then make sure that can't happen again02:39
mneptokwyclif: which means that either you're lying, or your computer is not secure and is being used without your knowledge. either way, it means no going back to #ubuntu until the problem is fixed.02:39
wyclifI'm going to have to have a chat with these people02:39
Tm_Tyour pc, your responsibility02:39
wyclifI think I did not log out this morning02:40
Tm_Tlock it02:40
wyclif:-(02:40
Tm_Tmake it to lock automatically02:40
naliothwyclif: please read up on computer security and come back tomorrow02:40
wyclifI understand the security aspect.  I just did not lock or log out, I apologise.02:40
mneptokwyclif: when your roommates are animals, you often have to wade through a lot of crap in your life.02:40
wyclifor you just need new roommates...02:41
Tm_T0319.04 < wyclif> LjL thanks but I've been on IRC since *1987*02:41
mneptokor that02:41
Tm_Twyclif: nah, just fix your screensaver settings02:41
* mneptok blinks02:41
wyclifyou pasted that before.02:41
mneptok1987?02:41
Tm_Tmneptok: aye02:41
mneptokthat's a neat trick.02:41
Tm_Ttimetravel02:41
wyclifI wasn't even ALIVE in 198702:41
Tm_TI knew that02:42
mneptokneither was IRC02:42
wyclifthis is really getting unfriendly.02:42
Tm_Twyclif: by people who uses your pc :)02:42
naliothwyclif: please join us here tomorrow02:43
wyclifTm_T that's true.02:43
Tm_Twyclif: anyway, I'm happy to see it secure and you happily in #ubuntu02:43
LjLwyclif, you can't blame us for your roommate being a [very] professional liar, therefore now making us highly doubt the veridicity of your statements.02:43
wyclifI'm not in #ubuntu, though.  I'm in #ubuntu-ops02:43
LjLso, drop this now, and come back tomorrow.02:43
LjLjurer gbzbeebj vf n zbagu sebz abj02:43
Tm_TLjL: sdflojgnbkm sdrgklnj agrklnjsretg02:43
Tm_Twyclif: hi how can we help you?02:44
naliothwyclif: was there something else we could help you with?02:44
wyclifmaking sure I had the right channel02:45
wyclifthanks02:45
Tm_Theh02:45
Tm_Tyou did02:45
wycliffor a second there I didn't think I was on an #ubuntu channel02:45
* Tm_T stuffs her fist back into mouth, deep02:45
Tm_Tmums!02:45
* Pici gets out his can of troll-b-gone02:45
Piciwyclif: Tomorrow is 24 hours away.02:46
ardchoillewyclif: The more you pursue this after being told to "come back tomorrow" the longer this problem is going to persist02:46
wyclifwhat?02:46
wyclifpursue what?02:47
wyclifthe only thing I did was rejoin the channel02:47
naliothgentlemen, we can fix this, easily02:47
Tm_Tnooo :(02:47
PiciTm_T: its okay... we'll get you another one.02:47
ardchoillehahahaha02:47
Tm_Tbut I was having fun at times :((02:48
LjLi never get to make them count from 1 to 3.02:48
ardchoillePici: And we won't even have to try very hard02:48
mneptokHEY BABY WAKE UP FROM YOU ASLEEP!02:50
LjL!caps | mneptok02:50
ubotumneptok: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.02:50
Tm_T!coc | mneptok02:50
ubotumneptok: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/02:51
mneptok!hi > LjL02:51
LjL!bye is <reply> Bye! Hope you've enjoyed your time on $chan02:52
ubotuBut bye already means something else!02:52
LjLshuddup02:52
Tm_T!bye02:52
ubotuBye! Hope you've enjoyed your time on #ubuntu-ops02:52
jdongLjL: I think bye should also make sure the victim leaves ;-)03:06
naliothjdong: my "bye-bye" does03:06
LjL!bye is =~ s/$/ - The door is that way, I can't be arsed banning you, really/03:07
ubotuI know nothing about bye is yet, LjL03:07
LjL!bye =~ s/$/ - The door is that way, I can't be arsed banning you, really/03:07
ubotuI'll remember that LjL03:07
LjL!bye | jdong03:07
ubotujdong: Bye! Hope you've enjoyed your time on #ubuntu-ops - The door is that way, I can't be arsed banning you, really03:07
Tm_Thmmmm03:08
Picihmm03:10
ardchoillehehe03:11
Madpilothmm - should all three Floodbots be on & op'd at once in #u?05:01
Tm_TMadpilot: hmm, opped no IIRC05:04
naliothMadpilot: that's common behaviour05:10
naliothif they lose track of chanserv, they go into "split" mode and op up in the event that chanserv goes away totally and ops are needed by them05:11
Madpilotah, OK05:12
jussi01ardchoille: whats your thoughts on richard balls in #k?07:31
jussi01hello Hobbsee07:32
Hobbseehiya07:32
jussi01He isnt talking, just Im a bit wary when someones got: [09:26] *** Richard_Balls [n=Mantits@ew01.misawa.attmil.ne.jp] has joined #kubuntu07:32
elkbuntujussi01, please try get him to change his nick... it's usually amusing to watch the discussion on the linuxchix server when he goes to troll and show pics of women on toilets07:32
jussi01elkbuntu: the nick isnt so bad, its the n=Mantits@ew01.misawa.attmil.ne.jp07:33
elkbuntuhe will maintain it's his real name, and start being an idiot07:33
ardchoillejussi01: He changed to that nick after I mentioned that his previous nick "mantits" was questionable.07:33
ardchoillehe still has mantits in his ident??07:34
ardchoilleI personally don07:34
jussi01ardchoille: sigh, ok Ill ask him to change07:34
ardchoille't like the "mantits being publicly viewable, but07:34
elkbuntuardchoille, he's a cross-server troll. he uses stupid nicks like that to get attention... feed him and he will show his true self07:34
ardchoilleWell, I don't wanna feed him, but I don't wanna get into trouble for removing him either, since he hasn't caused the channel any trouble07:35
ardchoillejussi01: Good idea07:35
jussi01here we go... as elkbuntu predicted.07:35
ardchoillejussi01: How about asking him to change his ident?07:36
elkbuntuas i said, he visits the linuxchix server and posts random dirty links07:36
ardchoilleThat's not nice07:37
elkbuntuwhen you bring up the fact that his hostmask is military and remind him that the military has strict rules... he usually flees07:37
ardchoilleWell, that's somewhat better07:39
jussi01yeah, did you pm?07:39
ardchoilleyes07:39
jussi01sorry, I had to run for 1 sec07:39
ardchoille/msg Richard_Balls Could you please change your ident?07:39
ardchoillehe complied without a word.07:40
elkbuntu... now it's 'bill'07:40
ardchoillebetter than "mantits"07:40
elkbuntui'm pretty sure bill is not short for 'richard'07:40
jussi01yeah, hmm. Im going to persist with the ick change07:40
ardchoillejussi01: Good idea07:40
elkbuntujussi01, i'll take him on in #ubuntu in parallel07:40
elkbuntuhe's ignoring me, it seems07:43
jussi01Im tempted to forward him here, if no action is taken.07:44
* elkbuntu wtf's at the quit message07:44
jussi01heh07:44
ardchoillewhat is CRIA?07:44
elkbuntua baby alpaca07:45
ardchoilleaccording to wp: Canadian Recording Industry Association07:45
elkbuntuok, now add into that the fact that he's in a japanese military base... we have enough information to scare him good if we wanted to07:46
ardchoilleaha07:47
jussi01hehe07:47
ardchoilleelkbuntu: Im so glad you're here :)07:47
jussi01!opsnack | elkbuntu07:47
ubotuelkbuntu: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!07:47
jussi01ardchoille: are you on the kubuntu list?07:49
Tm_Thi jussi01 and elkbuntu07:49
jussi01hi Tm_T07:50
elkbuntuardchoille, oh, and misawa is an air base... so he's not just some wannabe07:51
ardchoillejussi01: Kubuntu mailing list?07:51
Hobbseejussi01: what's wrong with it?07:51
jussi01Hobbsee: just getting ultra annoyed at the OT bible discussion...sigh...07:51
ardchoillejussi01: I'm not on any Kubuntu mailing lists, if that's what you meant. Should I be?07:51
elkbuntutell them to take it to ichythux (or however the hell it's spelled) mailing lists, if it hasnt already been said07:52
jussi01ardchoille: depends, to me its like the forums on email...07:52
ardchoillejussi01: Hmm.. not a bad ide07:53
ardchoillea07:53
jussi01I just realised !night is kinda badly worded...07:55
jussi01elkbuntu: He is probably just ultra bored... :P07:56
elkbuntujussi01, who?07:56
jussi01elkbuntu: Mr Balls07:57
elkbuntudoesnt matter07:58
Hobbseejussi01: next time, whinge at me earlier please08:02
jussi01Hobbsee: ok. sure. why so?08:03
* Hobbsee has superpowers to that list08:03
jussi01Hobbsee: ahh, about that. ok.08:03
* jussi01 didnt know :) but does now :D08:03
jussi01Hobbsee: I was gonna whinge at the list, but didnt want to feed the troll.08:04
* Hobbsee sends the "this is the end" mail to the list08:07
jussi01:)08:08
ardchoille:)08:08
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* jussi01 waits for it to hit08:09
no0ticgrr! It disconnects every single morning08:11
Daviey^ What list was that?08:11
Hobbseejussi01: i think it's moderated08:12
Davieyawww, kubuntu one :(08:12
jussi01Hobbsee: ah, ok.08:14
Hobbseejussi01: hm, seems it isn't.  just hasnt' hit the list yet08:14
jussi01no0tic: go look at the topic in the testing channel08:14
jussi01:)08:14
Hobbseeugh.  there's more!08:16
Tm_Tmmmmmgh08:19
Tm_THobbsee: murr08:19
* Hobbsee blocks that too08:20
Hobbseeugh08:21
* Hobbsee wonders about moderating this entire mailing list.08:21
Hobbseeit's so offtopic08:21
Tm_THobbsee: k-users?08:21
Hobbseeyea08:21
Tm_Thrrrr08:25
Tm_THobbsee: latest OT filtered out? can't see new ones08:25
HobbseeTm_T: i'll check again08:26
* Hobbsee only put the rule in recently08:26
Tm_Tone reason more I don't spend time with mailinglists though08:26
Hobbseenothing in the queue08:26
Tm_Thooray08:27
Hobbseejussi01: can you write up something on mailing list ettiquite, send it to me, and i'll post it as a list admin, and we can just moderate anyone who decides to discuss it afterwards?08:27
Hobbseethis stuff is getting ridiculous :-\08:27
jussi01Hobbsee: sure.08:27
Hobbseejussi01: thanks a lot08:29
HobbseeTm_T: interested in helping otu?08:31
Hobbseei need people who actually read the ML08:31
Tm_THobbsee: hmm, I'm not used to ML stuff, nr prolly have much time in several weeks, but I would love to help08:38
HobbseeTm_T: list admin is very sweet.08:40
Hobbseeyou dont have to go thru the web UI08:40
HobbseeTm_T: all you do is go thru, hit b (or f), then d or a.08:40
Tm_Troger, I will try to have some hour(s) weekly, but can't promise much currently08:41
Tm_Thave to put my own life back to "normal track"08:41
jussi01Hobbsee: wha? (/me still uses web ui)08:41
Hobbseejussi01: listadmin.  it's your friend.08:42
popey10:49:13 < ActionParsnip> i'm banned from #kubuntu so I thought I'd hover in here and help my fellow englishman10:50
popeywhy?10:50
popeyjust so I know10:50
ardchoilleHe used a public away message. I removed him from the channel. He re-entered the channel and used another public away message. This all hapened just after I mentioned !away to another user.10:52
ardchoilleI banned him because it appeared he wasn't going to read or abide by the !guidelines10:52
Daviey@btlogin10:54
ActionParsniphey all10:57
ActionParsnipI'd like to get my ban lifted from #kubuntu please10:57
ardchoilleActionParsnip: Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:58
ActionParsnipardchoille, I now know how to go about being away ardchoille10:59
PriceChildActionParsnip, you read that page very quickly!10:59
=== no0tic_ is now known as no0tic
ActionParsnipreading10:59
ActionParsnipdone11:01
ardchoilleActionParsnip: Please explain why "/me is away" and "/me is back" are frowned upon.11:01
ActionParsnipardchoille, loads of people doing it will scroll the page loads11:02
ActionParsnipconfusing peeps11:02
ardchoilleActionParsnip: That is not an acceptable answer.11:02
ActionParsnipand its kinda pointless text as there are other peeps who can help11:03
ardchoilleActionParsnip: Would you like to resolve this issue and get the ban lifted?11:04
ActionParsnipand to quote the page. "no one gives a rats ass where you are at any given point in the day"11:04
ActionParsnipI'd love to11:04
ardchoilleActionParsnip: Please explain why "/me is away" and "/me is back" are frowned upon.11:04
ActionParsnipthe chat is asynchronous and replies are not expected so everyone can be "in" the room but not chatting as they are afk11:05
ActionParsnipsending the text gets sent to all users in the room taking up bandwidth11:06
=== no0tic__ is now known as no0tic
ActionParsnipall in all its not cool11:07
ardchoilleRight.. so now you know that those types of actions are frowned upon.11:07
ActionParsnipyes I understand11:07
ardchoilleActionParsnip: Your ban is lifted in #kubuntu, please adhere to the guidelines in the future.11:08
Tm_TActionParsnip: oh, you!11:08
ActionParsnipcan I just add that I didnt see the warning you gave or I wouldnt have typed "back". I'm just an old chatter used to using afk/back but if you guys dont like it i can abide11:09
ActionParsnip:D11:09
ardchoilleActionParsnip: Ok11:09
ActionParsnipTm_T, huh?11:09
Tm_TActionParsnip: happy to see you :) though didn't expect it to be this channel11:10
ActionParsnipTm_T, yeah i used the afk/back and its not cool11:10
Tm_THobbsee <311:12
popeyright then, that was painful to watch11:13
Davieyvery11:13
popeyI'm not convinced you need to do the "dance monkey boy dance" on him ardchoille, treating him like a 3 year old11:13
Davieyhttps://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/bans.cgi?query=ActionParsnip&kicks=on&oldbans=on&bans=on&oldmutes=on&mutes=on11:13
Hobbseeheya11:15
ardchoillepopey: I merely wanted to make sure he understand the reason for the ban so he doesn't get banned for it again.11:15
DavieyHobbsee: goo' day11:15
popeyyou could possibly have achived that in a _slightly_ less patronising way though I suspect11:15
Tm_Thmm, agreed11:15
Davieyardchoille: well you'll be banning me on day then.. if i'm in mid conversation with someone and i need to go.. i will /me afk11:15
Tm_Tardchoille: anyway, wellcome in to the fire ;)11:16
ardchoilleDaviey: Interesting11:16
ardchoilleTm_T: :)11:16
ardchoilleDaviey: Are you aware that, as an op, we are to set a positive role model and that intentinally violating the guidelines is not good for the image of an oper?11:17
Davieyardchoille: and your behaviour ^ is?11:17
ardchoilleDaviey: I was doing the best I know how to do with the tools I have while following the guidelines.11:18
ardchoilleI'm sorry if that upset you11:18
Davieybut you failed to spot the offence of multiple lines as puncation just 10 lines above his /me is afk ?11:18
Tm_Tardchoille: heh, you did mostly fine, just less "rolling over" and you'll be perfect :)11:18
ardchoilleTm_T: Ah, ok11:19
ardchoilleDaviey: When you go fishing, do you catch every fish in the lake/ocean?11:19
Davieyi normally catch none :)11:20
Davieybut i wouldn't beat the fish into submisson, i'd catch him and throw him back11:20
ardchoilleVery well, "less rolling over", I'll try and remember that.11:21
Tm_T:)11:22
Tm_Tardchoille: nobody is perfect, though I could be close ;)11:22
ardchoilleThank you all for helping me become a better op, I do appreciate it :)11:22
ardchoilleTm_T: hehe11:22
* Hobbsee sends another email, and hopes it gest there11:23
ardchoilleHobbsee: The same ml issue?11:24
Hobbseeyeah11:24
Hobbseethe first one didn't11:24
Hobbseei'm not sure why11:25
Tm_Tmmmgh11:26
Tm_Tshould have been in town some hours ago already11:26
Tm_Tbaaaaaah11:26
* Tm_T is sooo stuck11:26
Tm_Tmetabot doesn't have cloak?!11:31
Hobbseecome on mailman. decide that i'm subscribed, and accept my maili please.11:35
Tm_Theh11:35
Tm_THobbsee: btw msg me if I'm need related to it11:36
Tm_Tanyway, I'm now mostly off for today, see you children ->11:36
Hobbseecya11:36
HobbseeDaviey: please keep in mind that some people are still quite new at all this.  however, ardchoille was too harsh, and recognises that.11:43
DavieyHobbsee: Yeah, i see that11:43
* Hobbsee checks. Daviey is not staff?11:44
Davieyno11:44
Hobbseehm, i thought you were.  or a freenode helper.  either way.11:45
HobbseeDaviey: which channels do you have ops in?11:45
Davieydunno :)11:45
Davieysuck it and see with /opme :)11:45
HobbseeDaviey: ?11:45
Davieya couple of times i've tried and failed11:46
HobbseeDaviey: your nick is private.  i can't tell.11:46
Davieyaww11:46
DavieyNo i mean, i'm not sure exactly - if i see something i try and op11:46
Hobbseelook, you can be helpful, or i can pull your teeth out.11:46
Daviey#ubuntu-uk, #ubuntu-mythtv* i know for sure11:47
Hobbseewhich channels do you have operator status on?11:47
Hobbseeyou can tell yourself with /ns info Daviey11:47
Davieyawww11:47
DavieyThose two and associated sub channels only11:49
DavieyI thought it was more ;(11:49
HobbseeDaviey: btw, /me --> afk is not the same as /nick Foo|afk && <pause> && /nick Foo12:22
Hobbseeor autoreplies12:23
Hobbseeie /me is away:  away.  && <pause> && /me is back:  Gone:  30 seconds12:23
Pici/me is away: Doing something that no one else cares about12:23
* Gary farts12:25
Garysorry, could not resist12:25
HobbseePici: yeah, that.12:26
DavieyHobbsee: yeah, i realise that.. the chap did "/me is afk" (during mid discussion with someone) not nick change12:28
Hobbseeright, so it was a wrong call12:28
* ikonia hates pointless use of the "/me" command in#ubuntu12:31
=== EpBFGggG is now known as LjL
LjLUbotwo`: nick Ubotwo`14:22
LjLUbotwo`: nick Ubotwo14:22
LjLUbotwo`: nick Ubotwo14:22
=== Ubotwo` is now known as Ubotwo
LjLi love it when i see my channel list shrinking and can't precisely understand why14:51
HobbseeGary: because you're a gazzak.  simple.14:56
GaryI love you too Hobbsee14:57
HobbseeGary: i know you do.  too bad for you though - you can't have me.14:57
LjLi'm sure he's desperate.14:58
Garynot in that way, eeew girls, cooties :-D14:58
LjLwhen i join channels like ##php i wonder how they can have more users than most distributions' support channels15:20
ikoniagazzak, isn't that the cardcian taylor off deep space 9 ?15:21
=== Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth
ikoniawhy is .ch addresses one of the most common trouble maker addresses ?15:50
ikoniaspoofing or just rebelion against censorship ?15:50
LjLactually i never noticed that15:50
ikoniaa good percentage seems to be .ch15:51
ikoniamaybe just my perception15:51
unagii was wondering what time today my ban would be lifted16:07
LjLunagi, "come back tomorrow" doesn't mean your ban gets lifted, it means we talk about it. i wasn't there, so i think i'll leave this one to the ops who were16:08
unagii was informed by seveas to chill out for a day16:09
unagimy impression was that it was a 24 hour ban16:11
LjLunagi: well talk to seveas16:12
jpatrickvorian: pardon?16:14
vorianjpatrick: oh nothing :)16:15
jpatrickah ok16:15
Seveasand those 24 hours haven't passed yet :)16:18
SeveasI know for sure since I banned you from home and I'm currently at work16:18
Seveasgoing home now, talk to you in a few hours16:18
ubotuIn ubotu, nicoleamychung said: which is the right one for linux http://www.amule.org/files/download.php?file=16116:56
profanephobiacan i get help for a sec?17:04
=== profanephobia is now known as flukierdonut
jpatrickflukierdonut: what's up?17:06
flukierdonutjpatrick: for some reason i cant send to #ubuntu-offtopic... just noticed it but i dont know how long its been this way... just thought i was being ignored :)17:07
jpatrickflukierdonut: maybe you've been muted by someone..17:08
jpatrickand I can't view the bantracker right now.17:10
flukierdonutoh ok17:10
jpatrickflukierdonut: I do not have the ops in #u-ot nor know why you were banned, so I suggest staying here till someone who does comes17:12
flukierdonutalrighty thanks17:12
naliothflukierdonut: you are not gonna be unbanned17:13
naliothevading bans is not nice at all17:13
flukierdonutwhat?17:13
naliothflukierdonut: changing your nick to evade a ban is not acceptable17:13
flukierdonuti havent done anything though17:13
flukierdonuti didnt even know i was muted till a second ago17:14
flukierdonutnalioth: well can you explain why i was banned then? because it seems im the only one that doesnt know17:15
naliothflukierdonut: i was about to remove it, but i saw you evaded  :(17:17
naliothit'll be removed in accordance with the policies17:17
flukierdonutnalioth: but i dont know why i was banned in the first place17:21
flukierdonutnalioth: i would like an explanation please17:22
naliothflukierdonut: the bantracker has no reason given.17:23
flukierdonutsee i dont either17:25
flukierdonutbut now that i see how this community treats its users, im ashamed to be a part of it17:26
naliothflukierdonut: it was something you said, since it was a "mute"17:28
flukierdonutnalioth: thing is, i dont recall saying anything offensive. but thats cool i believe in guilty until proven innocent too17:29
naliothlet's look at this:  if you are given a court order to stay away from some place, and you go to the place anyway, and tell the police there a different name, are you obeying the rules?17:29
ikonianalioth: pm please for a moment ?17:29
naliothikonia: of course17:29
flukierdonutnalioth: and lets look at it this way.. if you didnt even know there was a restraining order in place has the system done its job correctly? i think not17:30
naliothflukierdonut: do you think the cops at the place you were barred from would let you stay, upon finding out who you really were?17:32
flukierdonutnalioth: ok heres the thing.. 1) i didnt know i was muted 2) i changed my nick not because i thought i was being clever but because i didnt know what the problem was 30 your blowing this out of proportion because ive done nothing wrong17:33
naliothflukierdonut: you were banned for some reason.  we don't just randomly ban folks17:34
flukierdonutnalioth: ok i call bull on that... look back at the ubuntu-offtopic logs.. sometimes ops kick/ban for fun or a joke17:35
flukierdonutnalioth: usually lifted right after but it happens17:35
flukierdonutbut yeah theres no evidence towards my guilt so i must be guilty... cause thats how things work17:36
naliothflukierdonut: you appear in the ban tracker17:37
naliothflukierdonut: until the banning op shows up, this is how it is.17:37
flukierdonutnalioth: ok so who does it show banned me?17:37
flukierdonutSeveas: remember that little kick-fest that was going on the other day.. any chance you muted me and forgot to lift it?17:39
Seveasflukierdonut, where?18:04
Seveasheh, you're profanephobia :)18:05
Seveasyeah, might have forgotten18:05
Seveasfixed18:05
ikoniawould it be appropriate to ask a user called "init6" to change his nick, glancing at the channel it can look like "init6 or init 6" is a command to be excuted to fix things ?18:09
Seveasikonia, neh18:10
Seveasikonia, if a user calls himself reboot, that's fine :)18:10
Pici/nick sudorrmrf18:10
ikoniafine, just checking18:10
naliothalso let's not forget "sudosu"18:10
Seveassudosu was a troll18:10
naliothyes, he is.18:11
Picis/was/is/18:11
Seveasnickname has not much to do with that, but it's a fitting trollish nick18:11
ikoniaI'm just being cuatious18:11
ikoniacautious18:11
PiciNo harm in that :)18:11
SeveasI'm going to unban unagi and riotkittie. If the end up fighting again, the ban will be for longer18:15
Seveas(that's in -offtopic)18:15
PiciRoger that.18:15
Seveasand I'm keeping an eye on it tonight if possible18:15
flukierdonutSeveas: ok thank you i appreciate it18:17
ikoniariotkitte is normally nice18:18
Seveashe is, but he's getting on unagis tits18:18
Seveasthough that's mostly unagi unable to restrain himself18:18
mc44Seveas: also, he's a she :P18:21
PiciAnd we believe her.18:21
Seveasthis is teh internets, gender is always unknown :)18:21
* ikonia is a sexual18:21
Picia sexual. or asexual?18:21
ompaulohh dear18:22
ompaulSeveas, you should say the ... how many thymes do I have to tell ya ;-)18:22
Seveasompaul, dill boy :p18:22
* ompaul sees Seveas's dill boy, and raises him two scott adams and a dilbert18:23
TheSheepsomebody mentioned sex?18:23
naliothnot with you, TheSheep18:23
Seveasno bestiality18:23
jussi01did your red flasher go off TheSheep ??18:23
ompaul$red18:23
ikoniaompaul: I need to catch up with you later18:23
ompaulneed to18:23
ompaulikonia, you better nab me now18:23
ikoniaompaul: can't I'm about to go home18:24
ikoniawell, would like to18:24
ompaulahhh18:24
* TheSheep goes to stand in the corner18:24
jussi01Is anyone here on the Kubuntu users list?18:24
ompaulI am going out for dinner18:24
ompaulor so I believe at this stage18:24
ikoniaahhh I'll grab you tommorow18:24
ikonia:(18:24
ompaulikonia, ping me and see what happens18:24
ikoniaok18:24
ompaulI may be back before midnight (more than likely given the people involved)18:25
jussi01ompaul: mother in law? :P18:25
ikoniaha ha18:26
ompauljussi01, no, brother in law and sister in law with spouses18:26
ompauland missus18:26
Picimooses?18:26
* ompaul werks the kraft while waiting on the peoples decisions if kiddies are cared for and stuff18:27
=== no0tic_ is now known as no0tic
jussi01hello PriceChild18:28
ompaulPici, no mooses please the sheep is watching btw see icanhascheezburger and the big food one http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/funny-pictures-cat-deer-glass-door.jpg if you can laughs18:28
Picihttp://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/11/21/the-we-started-kissing-like-this/18:29
ompaulratz18:30
PriceChildHey jussi0118:30
PriceChildLjL, <lod____> just pasting in ubuntu.... with *four* second intervals. :P18:33
PiciLjL: the floodbots did the !paste, but I kicked him before they did anything else.18:34
PriceChildah i didn't see them doing anything18:35
PriceChildI *don't* expect them to do anything either on someone pasting that slowly.18:35
naliothhttp://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/funny-pictures-brave-chicken-kfc.jpg18:35
ompaulikonia, I will be going out for about 8:15 pm18:38
ompaul:)18:38
ikoniaI'm leaving now, so I'll try to catch you before you go18:38
LjLwell PriceChild, what can i do... if i change the bot to 4 seconds interval, we'll eventually meet someone whose client throttles with 5 seconds intervals.18:54
LjLor some troll who does it on purpose.18:54
PriceChildLjL, see the next line :)18:54
LjLand the longer the interval, the higher the chances to catch innocents18:54
PriceChildwait no, the line after that18:54
PriceChildindeed18:54
LjLPriceChild: the bots are actually subtler than "3 seconds intervals". it's three seconds for the first two lines, then it increases18:55
LjLstill, they must be "triggered" by two lines at 3 sec distance18:55
PiciLjL: It was triggered, but I kicked also, so theres a chance that it might have muted had I not done anything.18:56
LjLPici: yes, it would have. the first two lines were at *two* seconds distance18:57
PiciI'm too impatient.18:57
jpatrick*crap*19:24
* nalioth points to the bathroom19:27
* jpatrick was refering to danroj19:27
Piciunagi: Can we help you?19:29
unagijust waiting on seveas19:29
Piciunagi: you're ban in #ubuntu-offtopic was lifted19:30
Picis/you're/your/19:30
unagioh well thank you i wasnt sure, my internet will inadvertently jump around ips =/19:30
Piciunagi: well, let us know if you can't join.19:31
unagihave a great day19:31
jussi01hrmph, cant get listadmin to work for me...19:59
* jpatrick points at #ubuntu-devel20:19
jpatricksince I don't have the ops there20:19
jpatrickor, it could just be some other random guy20:20
jpatrickhttp://dnausers.d-n-a.net/dnetGOjg/020885.htm <- wth?20:22
jpatricknm20:22
PiciA mis-paste I believe.20:22
Mez!ping20:55
ubotuping: unknown host20:55
Mezaha...20:55
Mezlaggy20:55
PriceChildyou're laggy?20:56
Mezam not now it seems20:56
Mezmost annoying thing EVER just happened to me20:56
PriceChildMez, wrong channel?20:56
PriceChilds3v, hey there. How can I help?20:56
Meznope... not really... just rambling20:56
s3v+PriceChild : i would like to request a cloak? :)20:56
PriceChilds3v, could I have your launchpad url please.20:57
PriceChildAlso have you linked a secondary nickname to this, and set an email?20:57
s3vsee private msg20:58
PriceChilds3v, an ubuntu/member cloak?20:58
s3vthat would be nice20:58
s3vsecondary nick & email set too20:59
PriceChilds3v, I'm afraid ubuntu/member cloaks are only for recognised Ubuntu Members, approved by the Community Council or a Council they have approved.20:59
Seeker`@btlogin20:59
PriceChild!member | s3v20:59
ubotus3v: Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember20:59
s3vok thanks i will look further into it :)20:59
PriceChilds3v, if you want, you could have an "unaffiliated/s3v" cloak?20:59
s3vok21:00
PriceChildis that a yes? :)21:00
s3vyes :)21:00
PriceChildnalioth, s3v would like an unaffiliated cloak please.21:01
GaryPriceChild, nalioth is marked as away, want me to do it?21:16
PriceChildplease :)21:16
PriceChildwasn't away when i asked21:16
Garythey you go s3v21:17
s3vah thank you!21:17
s3vthanks for beeing here & goodnight ;)21:18
* PriceChild headdesks21:36
Seeker`PriceChild: whats wrong?21:36
LjLpoor desk21:38
PriceChildnano__ and azexian21:38
jussi01@btlogin22:20
PriceChildJack_Sparrow, spammer on pm?22:22
Jack_SparrowYes22:23
Jack_Sparrow[14:18] [Notice] -Noelia_- Hello, Do you want to play with me?1º-let’s go to http://lordserer.blogspot.com/ 2º- click in the right square3º- returns to the page and in the bar from google that sideswrite singles in australia4º- Goes to singles5º- Search my photos}22:23
PriceChildGary, ^22:23
Garywhat channel?22:23
Jack_SparrowUbuntu22:23
Garyautomated on join?22:24
Garyie would a /cycle do it?22:24
Jack_SparrowPriceChild: Was that incorrect for me to do?22:24
PriceChildJack_Sparrow, not really. talk to gary :)22:25
Jack_SparrowGary: What should be done with those?22:25
Garytell me or nalioth what is happening and when, and we can investigate22:26
jussi01JimmyDee joined #ubuntu about 5 mins ago...22:26
Jack_Sparrownp..  what all are you looking for?22:26
PiciGary: What are we telling you that I may have missed while I was disconnected?22:27
Picijussi01: is he supposed to be banned?22:27
GaryPici, a pm spammer in #ubuntu, I think22:27
PiciAh.22:27
jussi01Pici: no, just he has about 10 bans in -offtopic, so worth watching...22:27
LjLyes, ban, spammed #ubuntu-fr as well22:27
LjLnoelia_ that is22:28
naliothLjL: confirmed?22:35
naliothJack_Sparrow: usually an onjoin spammer gets klined (as it is usually one of the regular bots)22:39
Jack_SparrowThanks for letting me know.. Still new to all of this and how hard to push etc.22:51
LjLnalioth, confirmed in -fr, i didn't actually see what he/she/it did in #ubuntu, i guess it was PM. in -fr he/she/it pasted:22:53
LjL[Tue Jan 22 2008] [22:02:19] Join       Noelia_ has joined this channel (n=Noelia@254.pool85-50-99.dynamic.orange.es). <Noelia_>  Hello, <Noelia_>  Want to play with me? <Noelia_>  1 - http // lordserer.blogspot.com <Noelia_>  2 - click on the right square <Noelia_>  3 - returns to the page and the bar that really google <Noelia_>  Pon casadasbcn <Noelia_>  4 - Go to Women seeking men <Noelia_>  5 - Find my photos there [Tue Jan 22 2008] [22:02:44] Part22:54
LjL    Noelia_ has left this channel.22:54
JensNDShi22:57
PiciJensNDS: Hello, how can we help you today?22:58
JensNDSmy girlfriend mag_mor was banned in ubuntu. but why?22:58
JensNDSyes22:58
PiciOne moment, let me check our logs.22:58
JensNDSPici: mag_mor on freenode22:58
PiciJensNDS: I see a mute, but it was removed a few minutes later.23:00
PiciShe was pasting (probably accidentally) her log of the channel to the channel.23:00
PiciJensNDS: Can she still not get into the channel?23:01
JensNDSwell...i don't know23:01
JensNDSone moment please23:01
JensNDS* Kann #ubuntu  nicht betreten (Du bist gebannt) translated: can't join #ubuntu you 're banned23:02
PiciJensNDS: Let me check something else, hold on23:03
JensNDSok23:03
PriceChildPici, there is a ban active23:03
PriceChildnoticing it to you now23:03
* Pici checks23:04
PriceChildIts not on the bantracker23:04
Piciarg.23:04
* PriceChild looks at age the old fashioned way23:04
PriceChildgah server i'm on has had a split and can't see it23:05
JensNDSvery thank for your help  :)23:05
JensNDSthanks23:05
PriceChildwonder if irclogs. filters out bans23:07
JensNDS:)23:07
PiciPriceChild: I see it in my logs, but I'm not sure what it was about..23:08
PriceChildNothing in my logs.23:08
PriceChildpastebin?23:08
JensNDSshe told me he was very quitly in the channel :)23:08
JensNDSshe23:08
PiciPriceChild: see notice23:10
JensNDSok, ok mag_mor now here in the channel...23:11
JensNDSbye23:12
PriceChildPici, can't remember what channel i was in, again please?23:12
PriceChildPici, quit message23:13
PiciPriceChild: I dont speak german and google translate wasnt much help23:13
PriceChildtwo people same message23:13
PriceChild"pisspott" gives it away23:14
Pici"If a Piss Pot to a bread basket, it starts to stink."23:14
* Pici ??23:14
PriceChildI assume that was the reason for it.23:14
Piciompaul: around?23:15
mag_morit is a german saying and means, if someone tries to play something better, than he is, it starts to smell23:19
LetsGo67I have been unrightfully banned.23:33
LetsGo67For discussing an open source technology for Ubuntu.23:34
LetsGo67PriceChild claims it is offtopic, it is not.23:34
PriceChildLetsGo67, what is "ontopic" for #ubuntu?23:34
ompaulPici, I am23:34
ompaulnow23:34
ompaulwas missing for hours23:34
PriceChildLetsGo67, How did you know about this channel so quickly?23:35
LetsGo67PriceChild: Adobe Flash install is currently broken, see « /msg ubotu flash23:35
LetsGo67Does that answer your question?23:35
PriceChildLetsGo67, answer my questino please23:35
PriceChildno23:35
naliothLetsGo67: #ubuntu is a support channel.  Last I looked, Ubuntu did not ship with microsoft products23:35
LetsGo67PriceChild, it's called I use Ubuntu.23:35
PriceChildLetsGo67, if you don't know what "ontopic" is, you don't know what "offtopic" is.23:36
naliothLetsGo67: you are more than welcome to discuss SilverLight in #ubuntu-offtopic (that's what it's there for), but #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support.23:36
LetsGo67Nalioth: last I checked, Moonlight was not developed or sponsored by Microsoft.23:36
naliothLetsGo67: the point is: does it ship with Ubuntu ?23:36
LetsGo67Y-E-S.23:37
ompaulLetsGo67, you endeavored to have a discussion in #ubuntu - guess what -- That is not what it is there for23:37
LetsGo67!moonlight23:37
ompaulIt is there for a specific purpose and discussion is not it23:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about moonlight - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:37
LetsGo67I wanted to know if Moonlight was any better than Adobe Flash 9.23:38
ompaul!info moonlight23:38
ubotuPackage moonlight does not exist in gutsy23:38
ompaulso therefore it is not in a supported package23:38
naliothLetsGo67: that is a question for #ubuntu-offtopic23:38
ompaulso therefore it is offtopic at this time23:38
LetsGo67Moonlight is a relatively new technology, Ubuntu takes forever to upgrade its packages.23:39
LetsGo67Glad to see an LTS coming.  Hopefully, they'll include Novell Moonlight.23:39
stdinthat's not the point however23:39
PriceChildLetsGo67, you do not understand how ubuntu works "takes forever to upgrade packages"23:39
PriceChildyou don't understand how #ubuntu works23:39
PriceChild!guidelines > LetsGo6723:39
PriceChildRead the message from ubotu and come back in a few days please.23:39
ompaulsuper kirby artist?23:41
ompaulgot all the hall marks23:41
ompaulPici, you called?23:41
ompaulPici, I am going to head to the land of the sleepy23:41
* Gary joins ompaul 23:41
Garyerm23:41
ubotuPaladine called the ops in #ubuntuforums ()23:42
ompaulohh23:45
Garyumm, dunno if I like that op on ops call of jdong's23:47
ompaulGary, who knows23:49
GaryI deopped him23:49
GaryPricey is there, and he'd only get hassle being opped23:50
PriceChildmhmm23:51
stdinnalioth, Gary: just has some "adult" spam in #kubuntu23:51
Garydamn, I missed it :'(23:52
stdin[23:49]  <Exotics2> Hi all... Here is a free adult forum for you ::: http://exotics.heavenforum.com --- EXOTICS ADULT FORUM FOR YOU !  FREE MEMBERSHIP !  SHARE AND BE A MEMBER ! Thank you !.......23:52
naliothklined23:52
naliothstdin: no need23:52
Garystdin, if it starts being mutli channel, nalioth is the... ahh :p23:52
stdinnalioth: wasn't sure if you were around, thanks23:52
PriceChildSo spam like that needs to be multi-channel before action?23:53
naliothPriceChild: at a certain level yes.23:53
naliothPriceChild: but if we recognize it, no23:53
PriceChildah ok23:53
ompaulPici, you called23:53
naliothwe try to talk to the spammers with a new MO, PriceChild23:53
nalioth"try" being the key word23:53
PriceChildI can understand the whole "spamming against the group/channel, rather than network"23:54
PriceChildMO?23:54
naliothmodus operandi23:54
PriceChildthanks23:54
ompaulmethod of operation :-)23:56
ompaulmodality ....23:56
LjLmo-mo-mo' spam!23:58
ompaulsome lateral thinking, modal, vi is a modal editor, ed the first two letters of a guys name who may also share a name with an editor called ed, e being the first of those two letters, we get to emacs, from where we get to lisp machine, we get man machine, we get robots, we get spam thanks for breaking my train of thought LjL ;-)23:59
* ompaul forces LjL to drink a glass of water23:59

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