[00:48] In ubotu, soundray said: thunar =~ s/alternative/alternative to/ [00:52] !thunar [00:52] thunar is a File Manager for XFCE. It is a lightweight alternative Nautilus and is quite similar. More info at: http://thunar.xfce.org/index.html - Want to Replace Nautilus with Thunar? see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease [00:52] !thunar =~ s/alternative/alternative to/ [00:52] I'll remember that LjL [01:09] i cannot join #ubuntu [01:10] hey can you huys test me for that stupid router bug? I fixed it but I cant join #ubuntu [01:10] wyclif: did you follow instructions for repAIR? [01:10] repair? why? [01:10] wyclif: its a router bug. you mean you didnt read instructions? [01:11] ogre: i'm in the wrong channel [01:11] i just want to change channels [01:11] yes [01:11] ogre: he's here for a different reason. [01:11] wyclif: looking for #ubuntu? [01:11] ahhh [01:11] ogre: you weren't able to join because of some glitch in the bots. you can join now [01:11] ogre: yes [01:11] ogre: ok. thanks! [01:11] thanks LjL [01:11] wyclif: i'm afraid you've pushed your luck a bit far in order to rejoin #ubuntu without some amount of talk in here first [01:12] ogre: apparently LjL decided to get heavy handed with a user [01:12] ogre: i was kicked off the channel for using the bot according to IRC rules [01:13] wyclif: you should alsways listen to ops. its none of my business. dont involve me [01:13] ogre: for greeting new people using the bot and being friendly in general. wow, #ubuntu is getting to be like #debian that way... [01:13] ogre: ok, so I chatted a bit. [01:13] wyclif: can I hug you? [01:14] Tm_T: yes [01:14] ogre: can we help you in some else? [01:14] ogre: well, I was told by LjL I had to say some things here [01:14] i really just want to join #ubuntu [01:14] wyclif: yes yes, none of them have to do with ogre [01:15] [02:07:28] soundray you have trouble comprehending english? i'm saying i used it exactly the way it's supposed to be used. capiche? [01:15] that was the last thing you said [01:15] LjL that's right. [01:15] see, aside from the obviously unacceptable attitude towards soundray, [01:15] *sigh* [01:15] there is an intrinsic problem. how is the bot "supposed to be used"? who decides how it is? [01:15] well, it's simple - us. [01:15] LjL gosh, I just wanna join #ubuntu! [01:15] so if i tell you that's not the way to use it, it means it's not the way to use it. [01:16] LjL, yes sir! how high, sir! [01:16] wyclif, you tried pretty hard to get yourself banned from there. you could have thought about it earlier. [01:16] *groveling* [01:16] whats groveling? [01:16] HEH [01:17] wyclif: anyway, you say, you disagree with us, but we should just let you go? [01:17] *sigh* whatever dude. can I rejoin #ubuntu now [01:17] wyclif: no, we don't let you in if we don't believe you will follow the rules [01:17] Tm_T no, not you. [01:17] wyclif: why not me? [01:17] Tm_T because i recall you had nothing to do with it. [01:18] ok, thanks. wyclif I can tell you that you are pushing yr luck though [01:18] ok im out [01:18] *poof* [01:18] ogre: yes you may. thanks. may I rejoin #ubuntu now that I've taken my lashing? [01:18] wyclif, do you see the +'s, or green lights, or whatever it is on your client, that some users in here have? those identify the users who *do* have to do with stuff that happens in #ubuntu. [01:18] ogre: thanks and have fun [01:19] LjL thanks but I've been on IRC since *1987* [01:19] meh [01:19] irc was created in 1988 [01:19] "created" :-P [01:19] whate'er [01:20] in sensible way he couldn't been "around" until ~90 or so, but I even doubt 99 [01:21] 1987, eh? [01:21] prolly born that year [01:33] hello [01:33] hi [01:33] i was banned in #ubuntu because of uberscript [01:33] i turned the functions off now [01:33] sorry for that [01:34] matisse: and you had *two* bots like that in the channel? [01:34] no [01:34] i dont have bots [01:34] actually [01:34] then why were two users automatically responding to your !give commands? [01:35] ? [01:35] wrong way [01:35] do you want to test it ? Seems like I was faster or something like that [01:36] !give test test [01:36] Sorry, I don't know anything about give test test - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:36] actually, i ask myself why bsod2 typed that command [01:36] 1 sec [01:36] matisse: yes, i see now that you were one of those two "bots". [01:37] matisse: you can rejoin now. please keep in mind that bots and automatic scripts (except ubotu of course) are strictly disallowed in #ubuntu [01:37] yes, no problem [01:37] i apprechiate your work there [01:38] matisse: and remember to have fun ;) [01:38] so, it's not my intention to do such stuff [01:40] now is see [01:40] I want to be able to play call of duty on ubuntu, but punkbuster won't install in wine... is there a way to get around this? [01:40] !give neeto wine [01:40] ... [01:41] senseless... :-) [01:41] LjL: did you post "!give test test" to check if I am a bot ? [01:42] matisse: to test if your script was still in place. [01:42] ah, ok [01:42] !give ME_COOKIE! [01:42] Sorry, I don't know anything about give me_cookie! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:43] * matisse gives still a cup [01:43] !give still works ;-) [01:44] so, thanks for unbanning [01:44] gn8 [01:56] g'nate? [02:19] oh why I don't have op rights on #ubuntu-offtopic [02:20] wasn't unagi banned to begin with? [02:21] was, is he still? [02:22] Tm_T: yes [02:22] LjL: then time to remind him? [02:22] not my job though [02:22] i did [02:22] oooh [02:22] what time would i expect it to be lifted or when should i request? [02:23] unagi, i think you should come back tomorrow and ask seveas [02:23] ok i wasnt aware it wasnt lifted [02:23] i dont really know why it joined to tell you the truth i never reconnected [02:23] it wont be lifted until you ask so, I afraid ;) [02:24] oh wait, yea i did because i switched my xorg......i apologize [02:27] wyclif: Can we help you? [02:28] yes, actually [02:29] i cannot join #ubuntu [02:29] still [02:29] yeah. [02:30] * Pici scrolls up [02:30] Tm_T: looks like you know whats going on here. /me poofs [02:30] i was actually going to ask a question about openssh, but for some reason i cannot join, it appears my ISP has been banned. [02:31] wyclif: you remember why you were banned? [02:31] wyclif: ##linux or #openssh can help you [02:31] short term memory loss [02:31] :) [02:31] an interesting condition [02:31] LjL: :)) [02:31] ah, thanks. No, actually I have no idea. [02:31] wyclif: interesting, somehow I do these days [02:31] ??? [02:31] wyclif: was IRC good in 1987? [02:32] what's that? [02:32] wyclif you know what [02:32] hmmm. i thought this was the ops channel [02:32] noooooo [02:32] wyclif: this is [02:32] LjL: don't do it yet [02:32] Tm_T: :( [02:32] I thought I was confused before, perhaps my scrollback is in some sort of bizarro -ops channel. [02:34] hm. well, I was on that channel this morning. I come back from work, I'm banned. not sure I understand. [02:34] it does appear my IP has been banned, which is odd. [02:34] how you found out your IP is banned? [02:34] troooooooooooooooooooooooooooll [02:34] i checked. [02:34] how? [02:35] LjL: gezundheit [02:35] LjL: shush [02:35] you're welcome. [02:35] Pici: geSundheit [02:35] wow, is this really an #ubuntu channel? [02:35] wyclif: no, #ubuntu-ops [02:35] hmm. [02:35] wyclif: how did you check you're banned? [02:36] I thought I could get some answers here. Other times I've asked, that channel has been helpful. [02:36] wyclif: yes yes, how you checked you are banned [02:36] wyclif: this isn't #ubuntu, this is #ubuntu-ops, note that theres 43 people here, not 1043 [02:36] Tm_T I tried to join, I was informed I was banned. [02:36] wyclif: that doesn't say your IP is banned [02:36] yes, I realise that. I'm trying to join #ubuntu. that's why I'm on the ops channel, asking. [02:36] :) [02:37] wyclif: you are banned because your hostile attitude [02:37] that's weird, because I didn't think my username was banned [02:37] how so? [02:37] Tm_T what? [02:37] LjL I think I'll use it the way it's supposed to be used, kthxbai [02:37] like so ^^^^ [02:37] I didn't write that! [02:37] you did [02:37] wyclif: if it wasn't you, who then? [02:37] nope, I didn't. I just got home from work, actually. [02:37] wyclif: you were asked to stop certain behaviors by ops. you responded with a flat-out "no." [02:38] what???!!! [02:38] when was this? [02:38] wyclif: p'haps it was your brother [02:38] this afternoon [02:38] mneptok: what timezone? ;) [02:38] I wasn't even here this afternoon. Hmmmm [02:38] ugh... [02:38] wyclif: one and a half an hour ago [02:39] wyclif: it's your IP address [02:39] Hmmm. I wonder if it was my roommate [02:39] ip, ident, nick... [02:39] on my computer. [02:39] wyclif: then make sure that can't happen again [02:39] wyclif: which means that either you're lying, or your computer is not secure and is being used without your knowledge. either way, it means no going back to #ubuntu until the problem is fixed. [02:39] I'm going to have to have a chat with these people [02:39] your pc, your responsibility [02:40] I think I did not log out this morning [02:40] lock it [02:40] :-( [02:40] make it to lock automatically [02:40] wyclif: please read up on computer security and come back tomorrow [02:40] I understand the security aspect. I just did not lock or log out, I apologise. [02:40] wyclif: when your roommates are animals, you often have to wade through a lot of crap in your life. [02:41] or you just need new roommates... [02:41] 0319.04 < wyclif> LjL thanks but I've been on IRC since *1987* [02:41] or that [02:41] wyclif: nah, just fix your screensaver settings [02:41] * mneptok blinks [02:41] you pasted that before. [02:41] 1987? [02:41] mneptok: aye [02:41] that's a neat trick. [02:41] timetravel [02:41] I wasn't even ALIVE in 1987 [02:42] I knew that [02:42] neither was IRC [02:42] this is really getting unfriendly. [02:42] wyclif: by people who uses your pc :) [02:43] wyclif: please join us here tomorrow [02:43] Tm_T that's true. [02:43] wyclif: anyway, I'm happy to see it secure and you happily in #ubuntu [02:43] wyclif, you can't blame us for your roommate being a [very] professional liar, therefore now making us highly doubt the veridicity of your statements. [02:43] I'm not in #ubuntu, though. I'm in #ubuntu-ops [02:43] so, drop this now, and come back tomorrow. [02:43] jurer gbzbeebj vf n zbagu sebz abj [02:43] LjL: sdflojgnbkm sdrgklnj agrklnjsretg [02:44] wyclif: hi how can we help you? [02:44] wyclif: was there something else we could help you with? [02:45] making sure I had the right channel [02:45] thanks [02:45] heh [02:45] you did [02:45] for a second there I didn't think I was on an #ubuntu channel [02:45] * Tm_T stuffs her fist back into mouth, deep [02:45] mums! [02:45] * Pici gets out his can of troll-b-gone [02:46] wyclif: Tomorrow is 24 hours away. [02:46] wyclif: The more you pursue this after being told to "come back tomorrow" the longer this problem is going to persist [02:46] what? [02:47] pursue what? [02:47] the only thing I did was rejoin the channel [02:47] gentlemen, we can fix this, easily [02:47] nooo :( [02:47] Tm_T: its okay... we'll get you another one. [02:47] hahahaha [02:48] but I was having fun at times :(( [02:48] i never get to make them count from 1 to 3. [02:48] Pici: And we won't even have to try very hard [02:50] HEY BABY WAKE UP FROM YOU ASLEEP! [02:50] !caps | mneptok [02:50] mneptok: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too. [02:50] !coc | mneptok [02:51] mneptok: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ [02:51] !hi > LjL [02:52] !bye is Bye! Hope you've enjoyed your time on $chan [02:52] But bye already means something else! [02:52] shuddup [02:52] !bye [02:52] Bye! Hope you've enjoyed your time on #ubuntu-ops [03:06] LjL: I think bye should also make sure the victim leaves ;-) [03:06] jdong: my "bye-bye" does [03:07] !bye is =~ s/$/ - The door is that way, I can't be arsed banning you, really/ [03:07] I know nothing about bye is yet, LjL [03:07] !bye =~ s/$/ - The door is that way, I can't be arsed banning you, really/ [03:07] I'll remember that LjL [03:07] !bye | jdong [03:07] jdong: Bye! Hope you've enjoyed your time on #ubuntu-ops - The door is that way, I can't be arsed banning you, really [03:08] hmmmm [03:10] hmm [03:11] hehe [05:01] hmm - should all three Floodbots be on & op'd at once in #u? [05:04] Madpilot: hmm, opped no IIRC [05:10] Madpilot: that's common behaviour [05:11] if they lose track of chanserv, they go into "split" mode and op up in the event that chanserv goes away totally and ops are needed by them [05:12] ah, OK [07:31] ardchoille: whats your thoughts on richard balls in #k? [07:32] hello Hobbsee [07:32] hiya [07:32] He isnt talking, just Im a bit wary when someones got: [09:26] *** Richard_Balls [n=Mantits@ew01.misawa.attmil.ne.jp] has joined #kubuntu [07:32] jussi01, please try get him to change his nick... it's usually amusing to watch the discussion on the linuxchix server when he goes to troll and show pics of women on toilets [07:33] elkbuntu: the nick isnt so bad, its the n=Mantits@ew01.misawa.attmil.ne.jp [07:33] he will maintain it's his real name, and start being an idiot [07:33] jussi01: He changed to that nick after I mentioned that his previous nick "mantits" was questionable. [07:34] he still has mantits in his ident?? [07:34] I personally don [07:34] ardchoille: sigh, ok Ill ask him to change [07:34] 't like the "mantits being publicly viewable, but [07:34] ardchoille, he's a cross-server troll. he uses stupid nicks like that to get attention... feed him and he will show his true self [07:35] Well, I don't wanna feed him, but I don't wanna get into trouble for removing him either, since he hasn't caused the channel any trouble [07:35] jussi01: Good idea [07:35] here we go... as elkbuntu predicted. [07:36] jussi01: How about asking him to change his ident? [07:36] as i said, he visits the linuxchix server and posts random dirty links [07:37] That's not nice [07:37] when you bring up the fact that his hostmask is military and remind him that the military has strict rules... he usually flees [07:39] Well, that's somewhat better [07:39] yeah, did you pm? [07:39] yes [07:39] sorry, I had to run for 1 sec [07:39] /msg Richard_Balls Could you please change your ident? [07:40] he complied without a word. [07:40] ... now it's 'bill' [07:40] better than "mantits" [07:40] i'm pretty sure bill is not short for 'richard' [07:40] yeah, hmm. Im going to persist with the ick change [07:40] jussi01: Good idea [07:40] jussi01, i'll take him on in #ubuntu in parallel [07:43] he's ignoring me, it seems [07:44] Im tempted to forward him here, if no action is taken. [07:44] * elkbuntu wtf's at the quit message [07:44] heh [07:44] what is CRIA? [07:45] a baby alpaca [07:45] according to wp: Canadian Recording Industry Association [07:46] ok, now add into that the fact that he's in a japanese military base... we have enough information to scare him good if we wanted to [07:47] aha [07:47] hehe [07:47] elkbuntu: Im so glad you're here :) [07:47] !opsnack | elkbuntu [07:47] elkbuntu: Chocolate! And Peanuts! [07:49] ardchoille: are you on the kubuntu list? [07:49] hi jussi01 and elkbuntu [07:50] hi Tm_T [07:51] ardchoille, oh, and misawa is an air base... so he's not just some wannabe [07:51] jussi01: Kubuntu mailing list? [07:51] jussi01: what's wrong with it? [07:51] Hobbsee: just getting ultra annoyed at the OT bible discussion...sigh... [07:51] jussi01: I'm not on any Kubuntu mailing lists, if that's what you meant. Should I be? [07:52] tell them to take it to ichythux (or however the hell it's spelled) mailing lists, if it hasnt already been said [07:52] ardchoille: depends, to me its like the forums on email... [07:53] jussi01: Hmm.. not a bad ide [07:53] a [07:55] I just realised !night is kinda badly worded... [07:56] elkbuntu: He is probably just ultra bored... :P [07:56] jussi01, who? [07:57] elkbuntu: Mr Balls [07:58] doesnt matter [08:02] jussi01: next time, whinge at me earlier please [08:03] Hobbsee: ok. sure. why so? [08:03] * Hobbsee has superpowers to that list [08:03] Hobbsee: ahh, about that. ok. [08:03] * jussi01 didnt know :) but does now :D [08:04] Hobbsee: I was gonna whinge at the list, but didnt want to feed the troll. [08:07] * Hobbsee sends the "this is the end" mail to the list [08:08] :) [08:08] :) === no0tic_ is now known as no0tic [08:09] * jussi01 waits for it to hit [08:11] grr! It disconnects every single morning [08:11] ^ What list was that? [08:12] jussi01: i think it's moderated [08:12] awww, kubuntu one :( [08:14] Hobbsee: ah, ok. [08:14] jussi01: hm, seems it isn't. just hasnt' hit the list yet [08:14] no0tic: go look at the topic in the testing channel [08:14] :) [08:16] ugh. there's more! [08:19] mmmmmgh [08:19] Hobbsee: murr [08:20] * Hobbsee blocks that too [08:21] ugh [08:21] * Hobbsee wonders about moderating this entire mailing list. [08:21] it's so offtopic [08:21] Hobbsee: k-users? [08:21] yea [08:25] hrrrr [08:25] Hobbsee: latest OT filtered out? can't see new ones [08:26] Tm_T: i'll check again [08:26] * Hobbsee only put the rule in recently [08:26] one reason more I don't spend time with mailinglists though [08:26] nothing in the queue [08:27] hooray [08:27] jussi01: can you write up something on mailing list ettiquite, send it to me, and i'll post it as a list admin, and we can just moderate anyone who decides to discuss it afterwards? [08:27] this stuff is getting ridiculous :-\ [08:27] Hobbsee: sure. [08:29] jussi01: thanks a lot [08:31] Tm_T: interested in helping otu? [08:31] i need people who actually read the ML [08:38] Hobbsee: hmm, I'm not used to ML stuff, nr prolly have much time in several weeks, but I would love to help [08:40] Tm_T: list admin is very sweet. [08:40] you dont have to go thru the web UI [08:40] Tm_T: all you do is go thru, hit b (or f), then d or a. [08:41] roger, I will try to have some hour(s) weekly, but can't promise much currently [08:41] have to put my own life back to "normal track" [08:41] Hobbsee: wha? (/me still uses web ui) [08:42] jussi01: listadmin. it's your friend. [10:50] 10:49:13 < ActionParsnip> i'm banned from #kubuntu so I thought I'd hover in here and help my fellow englishman [10:50] why? [10:50] just so I know [10:52] He used a public away message. I removed him from the channel. He re-entered the channel and used another public away message. This all hapened just after I mentioned !away to another user. [10:52] I banned him because it appeared he wasn't going to read or abide by the !guidelines [10:54] @btlogin [10:57] hey all [10:57] I'd like to get my ban lifted from #kubuntu please [10:58] ActionParsnip: Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [10:59] ardchoille, I now know how to go about being away ardchoille [10:59] ActionParsnip, you read that page very quickly! === no0tic_ is now known as no0tic [10:59] reading [11:01] done [11:01] ActionParsnip: Please explain why "/me is away" and "/me is back" are frowned upon. [11:02] ardchoille, loads of people doing it will scroll the page loads [11:02] confusing peeps [11:02] ActionParsnip: That is not an acceptable answer. [11:03] and its kinda pointless text as there are other peeps who can help [11:04] ActionParsnip: Would you like to resolve this issue and get the ban lifted? [11:04] and to quote the page. "no one gives a rats ass where you are at any given point in the day" [11:04] I'd love to [11:04] ActionParsnip: Please explain why "/me is away" and "/me is back" are frowned upon. [11:05] the chat is asynchronous and replies are not expected so everyone can be "in" the room but not chatting as they are afk [11:06] sending the text gets sent to all users in the room taking up bandwidth === no0tic__ is now known as no0tic [11:07] all in all its not cool [11:07] Right.. so now you know that those types of actions are frowned upon. [11:07] yes I understand [11:08]