[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #184992 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Thinkpad T60 [1680x1050], ATIx1400, no X on Gutsy, Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184992
[05:41] <ubotu> New bug: #183317 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "[regression] Resume broken after last update to Intel video driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183317
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #125334 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Should use NVIDIA-*-pkg0.run instead of -pkg1 and -pkg2 to save space" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125334
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #184986 in xorg (main) "visualisation crashes X windows" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184986
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #124913 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "glxinfo segfaults with nvidia-glx-legacy" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124913
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #184903 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Display looks garbled when Yelp starts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184903
[10:39] <bryce_> morning
[10:39] <tjaalton> morning bryce_, how's London?
[10:39] <bryce_> tjaalton: not too bad; was sort of sunny today
[10:40] <bryce_> I've had several people ask about touchpad breakages
[10:40] <bryce_> just a couple so far with X startup issues
[10:40] <tjaalton> recent?
[10:40] <bryce_> soren has found some issues with cirrus and kvm
[10:40] <bryce_> yeah
[10:40] <tjaalton> ok..
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #144846 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "Crashed when trying to install/download Nvidia drivers" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144846
[10:43] <tjaalton> I'm updating lrm with latest nvidia & fglrx..
[10:43] <bryce_> I've given soren some advice for fixing it, to try contacting the maintainer, etc.
[10:43] <bryce_> cool
[10:43] <tjaalton> and closing a shitload of bugs
[10:43] <tjaalton> synaptics is dead upstream..
[10:43] <bryce_> asac has a bunch of fglrx issues, that could be quite helpful
[10:43] <bryce_> I spent about an hour with him this morning
[10:43] <tjaalton> but mjg59 promised to do some work on synaptics
[10:43] <bryce_> a couple people have complained about touchpad/synaptic issues
[10:44] <bryce_> like right click
[10:44] <tjaalton> well, the default config no longer has an entry for it, still waiting for i-h..
[10:44] <bryce_> in any case, things seem to be a lot more stable than last time I was here :-)
[10:45] <tjaalton> actually, you could ask them to try putting the fdi file from /usr/share/doc/hal/examples to /etc/hal/fdi/policy
[10:45] <tjaalton> 10-x11-input.fdi
[10:45] <tjaalton> and edit the keymap to that file
[10:45] <bryce_> tjaalton: btw, are you planning on doing a new -intel relatively soon?
[10:45] <tjaalton> if not 'us'
[10:46] <tjaalton> I could
[10:46] <tjaalton> just a snapshot or with XAA too?
[10:46] <bryce_> I've got a patch for it, you could toss in
[10:46] <tjaalton> ok, cool
[10:47] <bryce_> bug 175774
[10:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 175774 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[hardy] Enabling "Normal" effects produces badly drawn window shadows." [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175774
[10:47] <tjaalton> oh that
[10:48] <tjaalton> did you notice the msgs on xorg@?
[10:48] <tjaalton> if we switch back to XAA that's not an issue anymore
[10:49] <bryce_> actually it is, if people wish to turn EXA on
[10:50] <tjaalton> yep
[10:50] <bryce_> even if we go to XAA by default, XAA is deprecated so EXA bugs are still going to be relevant unfortunately
[10:50] <bryce_> so I take it you've no more hope of getting the libdrm/ttm stuff functional for hardy?
[10:51] <tjaalton> currently I can't even test it :/
[10:51] <tjaalton> probably due to some version mismatch with the libraries
[10:51] <tjaalton> I'll wait a week and retry
[10:52] <bryce_> ah
[10:53] <tjaalton> I managed to build the driver, but it complained about some missing symbols
[10:53] <tjaalton> then I rolled back everything on my laptop to be able to use it :)
[10:55] <bryce_> are we able to configure things such that XAA is used for 965, but EXA is used for other intel chipsets?
[10:55] <tjaalton> EXA is just as slow for !965 too :/
[10:57] <bryce_> hrm
[10:58] <bryce_> btw, I raised the issue about upstream dropping support for existing techs too swiftly when new techs are pushed out.
[10:58] <bryce_> Don't know if anything will come of it, but maybe next time it'll make someone give a little thought to transition planning
[10:59] <bryce_> today I think I'm going to try getting Q-FUNK's patches integrated
[10:59] <tjaalton> upstream?
[11:00] <bryce_> xorg
[11:00] <tjaalton> i mean you are trying to get those patches upstream?
[11:00] <bryce_> no, just build a ubuntu package
[11:00] <tjaalton> ah, ok
[11:16]  * bryce_ wonders when Q-FUNK might pop in
[11:25] <bryce_> tjaalton: how things going with you?
[11:26] <tjaalton> bryce_: trying to get this lrm out of the door, why?-)
[11:26] <tjaalton> oh, I'm hungry too
[11:26] <bryce_> mm, fuud
[11:27] <bryce_> no reason, just curious
[11:27] <tjaalton> lot of cruft in lrm
[11:27] <tjaalton> but one thing at a time
[11:27] <bryce_> yup
[11:30] <tjaalton> tonight I'll receive the PS3 our choir got as a gift from the singstar world record
[11:31] <tjaalton> so I'll be playing with it for a couple of days until it's installed on the choir club flat
[11:32] <bryce_> cool
[11:33] <tjaalton> my wife is not looking forward to that..
[11:33] <bryce_> heh
[11:34] <bryce_> yeah my fiancée says I can get any computer stuff no questions asked, but just no PS3's or WIii's or etc.
[11:34] <tjaalton> the other day I tried 'frets on fire' (guitar hero clone), and she said that I'll never become a guitarist :)
[11:35] <tjaalton> hehe
[11:36] <bryce_> hehe
[12:00] <tjaalton> mvo: hi, do you understand why removing nvidia-glx* on amd64 fails like on bug 184212?
[12:00] <tjaalton> bad ubotu
[12:01]  * tjaalton slaps ubotu with a trout
[12:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 184212 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "package nvidia-glx-new 169.07+2.6.24.4-4.11 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184212
[13:30] <ubotu> New bug: #40330 in xorg (main) "mouse pointer should flip horizontally when mouse orientation is left-handed" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40330
[14:40] <tjaalton> hmmh, I wonder if fglrx depends on libstdc++5 anymore..
[14:40] <bryce_> whoa
[14:40] <tjaalton> lrm build-deps on that
[14:41] <bryce_> weird
[14:41] <tjaalton> since Sep 2005..
[14:41] <tjaalton> so I'd say no
[14:41] <bryce_> maybe their old config tool needed it?
[14:41] <bryce_> remove it and see if it builds?
[14:41] <tjaalton> yeah
[14:43] <tjaalton> it's just that installing the driver pulls in gcc-3.3-base and libstdc++5
[14:44] <tjaalton> that's how I noticed
[14:52] <bryce_> mpt came to me with a problem that sounds a lot like bug 184078
[14:52] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 184078 in xorg "keyboard stops working until logout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184078
[14:57] <bryce_> hmm, maybe not
[16:52] <bryce_> tjaalton: I am noticing a weird issue on 965 where new windows show static briefly for a fraction of a second before drawing
[16:52] <bryce_> tjaalton: bdmurray says he sees it too, on 945 without compiz
[16:52] <bryce_> tjaalton: have you seen this behavior?
[17:10] <ubotu> New bug: #130769 in xorg-server (main) "Xephyr crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130769
[17:16] <ubotu> New bug: #44846 in xorg-server "gnome-keyboard-properties Layout Options tab blank in XNest" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44846
[17:31] <tjaalton> bryce_: yes, I think I've seen that
[17:34] <bryce_> tjaalton: I asked bdmurray to post a bug for us on it
[17:35] <tjaalton> cool
[17:35] <tjaalton> having a beer, train leaves in 3min
[17:36] <tjaalton> not in a hurry or anything :P
[17:36] <tjaalton> always time for irc
[17:36] <bryce_> heh
[17:36] <bryce_> I'm still working through q-funk's patch
[17:36] <tjaalton> doesn't merge easily?
[17:36] <bryce_> looks like it requires manual application on xserver 1.4, but so far looks straightforward
[17:36] <bryce_> no
[17:37] <tjaalton> ok.. gotta go now ->
[17:39] <bryce_> cya
[17:43] <tjaalton> fck, missed the train, again
[17:43] <tjaalton> more beer then
[17:45] <tjaalton> I didn't upload the lrm yet, but it's finished
[17:46] <tjaalton> finished as in ready
[18:02] <bryce_> oops, sorry about the train!
[18:03] <tjaalton> hehe
[18:03] <tjaalton> next in 5min
[18:07] <bryce_> oh not too bad
[18:07]  * bryce_ is quiet so tjaalton doesn't miss train
[18:46] <pcjc2_> hi
[18:46] <bryyce> heya pcjc2_
[18:46] <pcjc2_> I'm finding myself motivated to do some X11 debugging after a recent reboot ;)
[18:47] <pcjc2_> I'm aware of the security update regression breaking java and wx apps..
[18:47] <pcjc2_> any word on updates around this time also causing system-wide profiles to spend inordinate amounts of time in memcpy shifting textures around?
[18:48] <bryyce> hmm, not that I've heard
[18:48] <keescook> pcjc2_: the java/wx things is fixed.
[18:48] <bryyce> this on hardy or gutsy?
[18:48] <keescook> er, thing
[18:48] <pcjc2_> it doesn't appear to be the 1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.3 update, as I just reverted it
[18:48] <pcjc2_> Gutsy still
[18:49] <bryyce> there haven't been any other gutsy updates to X stuff
[18:49] <bryyce> can't speak about kernel things
[18:49] <pcjc2_> I'm trying to decipher the update logs.. but something is slowing this box to a crawl
[18:50] <pcjc2_> Work has been really hectic lately, but i'm still reading bug-mail. I heard the poor prognosis for EXA in Hardy.. shame
[18:54] <bryyce> yeah
[18:54] <bryyce> well, aside from the performance issues, there's a few other quirks that make EXA look not so ready for prime time
[18:55] <bryyce> one of which I posted a patch for yesterday
[18:56] <pcjc2_> I got the feeling more people were working on the intel driver recently
[18:56] <bryyce> there's certainly more motion
[18:59] <pcjc2_> I recently discovered the joys of trying to get a package into Debian.. no motion involved there
[19:26] <pcjc2_> gah.. reboot time, this machine is very unhappy indeed
[21:20] <ubotu> New bug: #184502 in scim (main) "Nautilus exhibits odd behavior when installing language support (dup-of: 66104)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184502
[21:41] <pcjc2> hi
[21:44] <pcjc2> Bryce... it appears that slow graphics bug was hardware related.. its all unspeakably strange
[21:46] <pcjc2> It only happens when I plug my AC adaptor in.. (Same adaptor I had to splice the wire on today to fix a wiggle fault).
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #114124 in xfce4-terminal (main) "Xubuntu 7.04 xserver crashes when launching terminal (dup-of: 91849)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114124