| jamesstilwell3rd | I seem to be having problems with the 7.10 iso I downloaded tonight (I do -- generally -- know how to burn an .iso) | 04:14 |
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| jamesstilwell3rd | I'm attempting a server install on an IBM xSeries 360 with one of those laptop-type cdrom drives. | 04:15 |
| jamesstilwell3rd | I've burned isos on two different types of media on two different machines (4x burns total) and all have failed integrity tests. | 04:16 |
| jamesstilwell3rd | I've been using k12ltsp, after a negative experience with 7.04, and I'm trying to give edubuntu another shot... | 04:19 |
| jamesstilwell3rd | make that 5x failures... | 04:21 |
| === RichEd-2 is now known as RichEd | ||
| === Kamping_Kaiser is now known as `6og | ||
| iMacGyver | i'm using ltsp with edubuntu and i'm trying to disable screen blanking, the screensavers are off, how do you add settings to the generated xorg.conf? | 17:19 |
| Contessa | good morning all | 18:09 |
| johnny | mornin | 18:10 |
| Contessa | how are you .. where are you ? | 18:11 |
| johnny | ? | 18:11 |
| johnny | sleepy | 18:11 |
| johnny | just woke up | 18:11 |
| Contessa | hmmm .... Hawaii ? | 18:12 |
| johnny | no | 18:12 |
| johnny | EST | 18:12 |
| Contessa | sleep in late ? | 18:13 |
| Contessa | work late ? | 18:13 |
| johnny | yeah.. something like that | 18:21 |
| johnny | i work at home | 18:21 |
| johnny | but also work at a local coffeehouse bookstore | 18:21 |
| Contessa | I'm at home .... its 7.30am | 18:21 |
| johnny | and i closed the store last night at 11 | 18:21 |
| Contessa | ah | 18:23 |
| Contessa | store ? | 18:23 |
| Contessa | ah ... | 18:24 |
| Contessa | so ..do you create Edubuntu, or use it ? | 18:24 |
| LaserJock | Contessa: 7:30am? are you in Hawaii? | 18:28 |
| Contessa | no ...NBew Zealand | 18:29 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 18:29 |
| LaserJock | I thought NZ was at least an hr earlier | 18:30 |
| LaserJock | I'm Pacific so it's 10:30am on Wednesday | 18:31 |
| Contessa | summer time ... we ARE one hour earlier | 18:31 |
| Contessa | its 7.35 am on Thursday morning here | 18:36 |
| LaserJock | it's always funny to me that NZ people are often closest to me in time ... just a day ahead | 18:36 |
| Contessa | its great .... I am in all of your tomorrows ! | 18:37 |
| LaserJock | Contessa: now your freaking me out ;-) | 18:52 |
| LaserJock | *you're | 18:53 |
| Contessa | oh dear .... you dont want me in your tomorrows ? | 18:53 |
| * Contessa is in everyone's tomorrow | 18:53 | |
| LaserJock | but ... but ... if you're in my tomorrow how am I talking to you today?!? :-) | 18:57 |
| * LaserJock 's head explodes | 18:57 | |
| Contessa | omnipotence | 18:58 |
| laga | omnipresence rather | 18:58 |
| Contessa | yeah ..that too | 18:58 |
| laga | ;) | 18:58 |
| * Contessa feels her head swelling | 18:58 | |
| * Contessa looks for ice | 18:58 | |
| * RichEd plays with anagrams of omnipotence minus the second "o" | 18:59 | |
| RichEd | and the second "n" | 18:59 |
| RichEd | LaserJock: you up for the meeting in an hour ? | 19:00 |
| Contessa | make a suggestion for me will ..you ...I prolly shjould look at going to work | 19:00 |
| * RichEd gets his pen and sits for dictation | 19:01 | |
| RichEd | go ahead | 19:01 |
| Contessa | make a decent install of Rosegarden ... | 19:01 |
| Contessa | and include it in Edubuntu | 19:01 |
| RichEd | Contessa: is it in any of the ubuntu repositories yet ? | 19:02 |
| Contessa | I dont know | 19:02 |
| Contessa | I'm currently using SL5 - but building Rosegarden for SL5 is somewhat a bit of a journey ...and Edubuntu is my next favourite distro | 19:02 |
| stgraber | rosegarden | 1:1.6.1-1ubuntu1 | hardy/universe | source, amd64, i386, powerpc | 19:02 |
| Contessa | ah | 19:03 |
| stgraber | sudo aptitude install rosegarden | 19:03 |
| pips1 | http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/sound/rosegarden | 19:03 |
| stgraber | and you "should" have it installed | 19:03 |
| stgraber | hey pips1 | 19:03 |
| pips1 | hi stgraber | 19:03 |
| Contessa | okj .... time to add Edubuntu to my biog machine again | 19:03 |
| Contessa | ty | 19:05 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 19:12 |
| LaserJock | rosegarden is an interesting suggestion | 19:12 |
| LaserJock | Ubuntu Studio ships it | 19:12 |
| LaserJock | RichEd: yeah, I'm working from home today, and I wanted to chat with people | 19:13 |
| stgraber | good, so the packaging should be good and easy to install | 19:13 |
| stgraber | not sure if we can consider it as educational software though | 19:13 |
| * stgraber has just read apt and wikipedia description | 19:14 | |
| RichEd | LaserJock: ogra is in London at the distro sprint ... so we'll not have any tech news from him | 19:15 |
| LaserJock | RichEd: bah | 19:15 |
| LaserJock | distro sprints are a real pain for the rest of us :/ | 19:15 |
| LaserJock | stgraber: I was thinking of doing jokosher rather than rosegarden | 19:15 |
| stgraber | yes, jokosher seems easier to use | 19:16 |
| johnny | does it work nwo? | 19:17 |
| johnny | now* | 19:17 |
| RichEd | == edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 3 mins === | 19:58 |
| pygi | oh noes :P | 20:03 |
| LaserJock | ok | 21:02 |
| LaserJock | RichEd: I'm a tad concerned about docs for Hardy | 21:02 |
| stgraber | we can continue with website as pips1 is here :) | 21:02 |
| LaserJock | we've had 0 commits to "official" docs | 21:02 |
| stgraber | ouch, not good | 21:02 |
| RichEd | stgraber: his nick was in #ubuntu-meeting as well but his keyboard was not | 21:03 |
| RichEd | LaserJock: oops | 21:03 |
| pips1 | hi | 21:03 |
| RichEd | hello mr pips1 sir | 21:03 |
| RichEd | how is the baby ? | 21:03 |
| pips1 | well, nothing to report really, I closed some bugs related to the website, but that's it | 21:04 |
| RichEd | okay :0 | 21:05 |
| pips1 | LaserJock: what was that you said about documentation? | 21:05 |
| RichEd | LaserJock: what do we need to do to get the docs moving then | 21:05 |
| LaserJock | pips1: we've had 0 commits for the Hardy branch | 21:05 |
| RichEd | has it been a case of people who are no longer active ? | 21:05 |
| pips1 | oh | 21:05 |
| LaserJock | I just don't have the time to spearhead things | 21:05 |
| LaserJock | RichEd: well, sbalneav *was* the docs | 21:05 |
| pips1 | well, afaik, last time round it was mainly sbalnaev who contributed to the docs? | 21:06 |
| LaserJock | I've just been doing packaging related things, not writing content | 21:06 |
| RichEd | LaserJock: and now ? | 21:06 |
| stgraber | LaserJock: what's the Edubuntu-specific bit now ? | 21:06 |
| LaserJock | I haven't seen sbalneav for ages | 21:06 |
| stgraber | LTSP being Ubuntu now | 21:06 |
| RichEd | mmm ... | 21:06 |
| LaserJock | stgraber: good point, the problem is that we've not transitioned docs | 21:06 |
| LaserJock | so the only LTSP documentation would be from edubuntu-docs | 21:06 |
| RichEd | didn't nixternal do a lot of doc work for edubuntu before ? | 21:06 |
| LaserJock | some yeah, mostly he helped me with packaging and getting things into svn | 21:07 |
| pips1 | RichEd: not sure, but I think nixternal helped mainly with re-structuring some existing content.. | 21:07 |
| RichEd | any suggestions from anyone ? | 21:08 |
| * pygi knows some things about edubuntu docs, as he wrote the initial stuff | 21:08 | |
| pygi | anything I could do to help? | 21:09 |
| pygi | what's the problem anyway? | 21:09 |
| pips1 | so what are the new features of edubuntu in hardy that need documentation anyway | 21:09 |
| pips1 | ? | 21:09 |
| RichEd | is there much specific edubuntu content, or it is a matter of reshaping ubuntu content ? | 21:09 |
| LaserJock | well, for one, we should decide whether to carry the LTSP stuff | 21:09 |
| pygi | RichEd, there's enough edubuntu specific content I'd say | 21:09 |
| pygi | LaserJock, don't see why not? | 21:09 |
| LaserJock | also the documentation is centered around Classroom Server + Addon CD | 21:09 |
| pips1 | I'd say LTSP should be merged into the ubuntu docs, no? | 21:10 |
| pygi | I just dont dig that stuff that it should go in server | 21:10 |
| LaserJock | whereas we'll be doing the addon thing | 21:10 |
| pips1 | so this dev cycle, it was mainly the restructuring (ltsp move to ubuntu), right? | 21:11 |
| LaserJock | so I think we might consider ripping out the LTSP stuff and moving it to ubuntu docs | 21:11 |
| LaserJock | then making sure we're documenting all that we are changing | 21:11 |
| stgraber | Would make sense | 21:11 |
| * pygi thinks all that actually makes no sense, but oh well | 21:11 | |
| LaserJock | and I had hoped we could do more "useful" documentation rather than reference | 21:11 |
| LaserJock | pygi: well, it's not up to you and I ;-) | 21:12 |
| stgraber | then the doc would mainly be about : How to install and the differences between Ubuntu and Edubuntu | 21:12 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 21:12 |
| pips1 | stgraber: what about italc? is there any existing documentation that could be used as a base, in case italc makes it in? | 21:12 |
| LaserJock | and I'd love to see more Education resources, etc. | 21:12 |
| pygi | LaserJock, oh, no, it's about the users and teacher and people indeed | 21:12 |
| stgraber | pips1: hmm, the tool also existing for Windows I'm sure there is some doc but I haven't really took time to investigate that (having it to work is already hard enough believe me :)) | 21:13 |
| * RichEd needs to head off ... but will keep this channel open and read the log tomorow | 21:13 | |
| RichEd | thanks and good night all | 21:14 |
| stgraber | RichEd: good night | 21:14 |
| LaserJock | RichEd: I think I'll send out a series of emails to -devel | 21:14 |
| LaserJock | so we can get some discussion | 21:14 |
| RichEd | sounds good | 21:14 |
| pips1 | stgraber: I hear you... I had a very brief look just at the description of italc quite some time ago and I thought: wow, that is a real swiss army knife app! all that functionality... | 21:14 |
| pips1 | oops, disregard my last comment, a mixup with CipUX | 21:19 |
| pips1 | iTalk documentation is a wiki: http://italc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page | 21:20 |
| pips1 | *italc | 21:20 |
| pips1 | GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 | 21:21 |
| pips1 | stgraber, LaserJock: so, *is* there any new functionality in gutsy? | 21:22 |
| LaserJock | in gutsy? | 21:23 |
| pips1 | hardy | 21:23 |
| pips1 | sorry | 21:23 |
| LaserJock | well, the whole installation is different | 21:23 |
| LaserJock | I'm not sure what's been done with LTSP but it's always progressing | 21:24 |
| LaserJock | but I don't think there's such a jump like LTSP 4.2->5 | 21:24 |
| pips1 | right | 21:24 |
| LaserJock | Hardy should mostly be making Gutsy more usable, stable, bug-free | 21:25 |
| stgraber | IIRC the main LTSP change will be the ltsp GUI tool to configure and generate chroot then squashfs it | 21:25 |
| pips1 | I think it was mainly polishing... a big step still missing is localapps, afaik | 21:25 |
| LaserJock | my hope is that we can get documentation and the website in really good shape | 21:26 |
| LaserJock | I think ogra's done a really good job of getting the technical parts in good shape | 21:26 |
| stgraber | pips1: yes, you won't see localapps in Hardy :( (even if it technicaly can work, it would require too much work to have it ready on time) | 21:26 |
| pips1 | LaserJock: problem is, there is nobody around that actually knows the latest developments | 21:26 |
| pips1 | it's all in ogra's head | 21:27 |
| stgraber | I'm in #ltsp but there hasn't been much change lately | 21:27 |
| stgraber | the main change being the big move to bzr and LP | 21:27 |
| LaserJock | pips1: right, so we need to "extract" it :-) | 21:28 |
| pips1 | stgraber: I think you might be the one community member (besides Laser) most knowlegable about what happened this dev cycle, no? | 21:28 |
| stgraber | probably as I'm also a member of the QA team and then working on the various testcases | 21:30 |
| pips1 | *knowledgable | 21:30 |
| pips1 | right | 21:30 |
| stgraber | +I like experimental things :) | 21:30 |
| LaserJock | *so* let's use -devel, get things discussed/set and then *do it* :-) | 21:31 |
| pips1 | so, LaserJock what happened in MOTU space for edubuntu (i.e. the addon cd) ? | 21:31 |
| pips1 | any new edu apps added to main? | 21:31 |
| pips1 | LaserJock: what do you mean by -devel ? IRC or ML? | 21:32 |
| stgraber | ML I think | 21:32 |
| pips1 | Im not even subscribed to ubuntu-devel ML | 21:33 |
| LaserJock | ML | 21:33 |
| * LaserJock smacks pips1 | 21:34 | |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 21:34 |
| LaserJock | pips1: well, the addon cd will become the real Edubuntu CD | 21:34 |
| LaserJock | I haven't added any new apps yet | 21:34 |
| LaserJock | I'd like to get a few if I have time | 21:34 |
| LaserJock | but I don't even know how much space we have, etc. | 21:35 |
| pips1 | ic | 21:35 |
| * pips1 reads https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Documentation and is amazed | 21:35 | |
| pips1 | last edited by DanielHolbach2 | 21:36 |
| pips1 | interesting | 21:36 |
| stgraber | My big concern at the moment is that Alpha4 is next week and we don't have the "Edubuntu as an add-on to ubuntu" part done | 21:37 |
| pips1 | right! | 21:37 |
| pips1 | did you talk to ogra about this? | 21:38 |
| stgraber | It's LTS so we really need to have something that works perfectly, but for that we need something to test :) | 21:38 |
| stgraber | Last I heard from him he had LTSP integrated in Ubuntu which you can install by passing an extra parameter at the installer boot | 21:39 |
| LaserJock | I think it's supposed to be done for the sprint | 21:39 |
| stgraber | I don't really know the status of the add-on itself though | 21:39 |
| pips1 | stgraber: i see your point... Alpha 4 is the last milestone before the feature freeze, so it would be good to get minimal testing done if the edubuntu cd works... :-/ | 21:41 |
| stgraber | yes | 21:42 |
| pips1 | since you are up-to-date and in touch with ogra on IRC, I'm sure you'll be able to catch the first daily with the working edubuntu cd... | 21:42 |
| pips1 | but I read on the mailing list that someone was testing milestone releases... that person won't "catch" some random daily... | 21:43 |
| stgraber | yes, I'm also waiting for it so I can update our current Edubuntu testcase (which is still about the add-on and server CD) | 21:43 |
| Goosemoose | hi guys , anyone know if the active directory package that's going into hardy is done? | 22:00 |
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