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ObsidianXwhats the actual binary that is the Power Manager app00:25
ObsidianXi can't find it for the life of me00:25
ObsidianXand i can't stand it00:26
* lamont grumbles. I want -jDNAT for ipv602:48
cleverlamont: but why?:P03:05
cleverwith ipv6 you should be able to get a public ip for every system behind the 'router'03:06
lamontclever: because I want to divert traffic bound for (say) $WEBSERVER to a local copy, or ditto for other traffic03:19
lamontDNAT has nothing to do with SNAT03:19
cleverah03:20
cleveri mainly use dnat for port forwarding03:20
clevertrafic from the web coming in geting directed to lan ip's03:20
lamontthat too.03:20
lamontDNAT lets me have simpler firewall rules..03:21
lamontmind you, before we get ipv6 DNAT, ip6tables needs to believe in -t nat...03:28
RAOFIs there anything more I info can do for bug #184712?  Losing ACPI is annoying :(03:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 184712 in linux "[regression] Asus F3Jm fails to work correctly without acpi=off" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18471203:33
mjg59RAOF: Looks like it's stopping in acpi_early_init03:36
RAOFmjg59: Ok.  What sort of extra info would be useful here?  PArticularly since this seems to affect previously-working kernels, which has me perplexed.03:37
mjg59Yeah, nothing springs to mind03:38
RAOFThere wasn't a recent initramfs-tools update?  Could that even cause this problem?03:38
mjg59Oh, hm. No, it's getting into timer setup.03:39
mjg59Or possibly not03:40
mjg59I'm afraid it's a bit hard to figure out where it's actually dying03:40
RAOFThe kernel doesn't happen to have an excesively_verbose option? :)03:41
mjg59Are you able to build your own kernels?03:41
RAOFI'm not set up for it, but I could.  I've done it before.03:41
mjg59Ok03:41
mjg59If you could grab the source and add something like03:41
RAOFOh, except the kernel building process has changed since then, I think.  I'll see :)03:41
mjg59printk("Successfully enabled ACPI\n"); to drivers/acpi/bus.c in acpi_early_init after the acpi_enable_subsystem line, that would be great03:42
mjg59Then we'll know whether it got out of ACPI or not03:42
RAOFOk.03:43
RAOFWould you like me to build from Ubuntu git, or from the linux-source package?03:49
mjg59git's probably a better bet03:50
RAOFRight.03:50
RAOFMan it takes a long time to git clone the kernel!04:27
lamontRAOF: depends on how fast your link is... 200+MB takes a while04:29
RAOFWell, it's clearly not saturating my local connection.  On the other hand, kernel.ubuntu.com is unlikely to be in .au04:30
lamontrather04:43
lamontsan francisco from my trace04:44
RAOFWell, it's done.  Now I can spin my CPU building it instead.04:48
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KredHi, I want to supply more details of a ACPI related bug that is already reported on Launchpad. Wiki tells me to supply tarball of /proc/acpi/ but fails to explain what commands to issue.07:24
KredWhen I try to tar it I get device busy07:27
Kanohi07:28
RAOFmjg59: Well, that took longer than I expected.  Also, nothing extra got printed out; it looks like it's hanging before it's hanging before acpi_enable_subsystem returns in acpi_early_init.07:31
* RAOF goes to update the bug.07:31
Kanowhy are still iwl modules not in lum?07:42
RAOFKano: They are in my l-u-m-2.6.24-4-generic?07:43
Kanothey are diabled in kernel config and not in lum07:44
RAOFAh, sorry.  No they're not.  The firmware is there, and the modules are in linux-image-2.6.24-4-generic07:44
Kanohttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy.git;a=commit;h=a07606c45a19754bfd05e0cc2abff32207c5736c07:45
KanoUBUNTU: Disabled iwlwifi preperatory to moving it to l-u-m.07:45
Kanobut they never arrived in lum07:45
tjaaltonugh07:45
tjaaltonthat's not released yet07:45
Kanonad07:45
Kanoyou can never release when you dont do that07:47
MithrandirKano: whining about not-released source not being in sync is not helpful.  It'll be moved into lum before the next upload.07:48
Kanothat changes was made 6 days ago, i dont get what you are waiting for07:48
tjaaltonI'm pretty sure they know what they are using07:48
tjaaltonuh, doing07:48
Mithrandirif you're building stuff from git and it's a problem for you, don't pull that commit.07:49
RAOFIn the unlikely event that someone's searching 'round for a bug to investigate with someone on the other end, I'm available for testing anything anyone can think of for bug #184712.07:52
ubotuLaunchpad bug 184712 in linux "[regression] Asus F3Jm fails to work correctly without acpi=off" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18471207:52
Kanoand no changes in bcm43xx and prism54 yet07:52
mjg59RAOF: In that case, it sounds like it's hanging while enabling ACPI. Which is bizarre.08:22
mjg59RAOF: You can prove that by sticking another printk just before the acpi_enable_susbsystem line08:23
RAOFAbout as bizzare as the fact that it's affecting older kernels that used to work fine?08:23
Kanoi would let him try thorhammer rc7 with a kernel without config-ide08:24
RAOFI'll stick that extra printk in.  And wait for the kernel to build.08:25
mjg59Kano: ...08:27
mjg59Kano: Have you actually *read* the bug?08:27
RAOFmjg59: Any other printk's you'd like smattered around?  It takes me some time to build the kernel :)08:27
Kanomjg59: standard kernels often stop with that message08:27
mjg59RAOF: I'm pretty certain it's in there. If you want, you can spread some through acpi_enable_subsystem.08:27
mjg59Kano: This is before any code affected by #ifdef CONFIG_IDE has been executed08:28
mjg59Kano: We're still in init/main.c08:28
MithrandirRAOF: use ccache; that helps at least.08:28
mjg59RAOF: TBH, I'd suspect BIOS weirdness at this point more than anthing else - can you try resetting that to defaults?08:29
RAOFmjg59: As a part of a futile attempt to flash the bios, I already have.08:29
mjg59RAOF: Hm08:29
mjg59RAOF: Is the machine Ubuntu-only?08:29
RAOFYup.08:29
mjg59Really, really weird.08:30
RAOFOtherwise I could've flashed in Windows rather than wrestling with the "ez-updater" thing which apparently doesn't do anything at all.08:30
RAOFI could possibly find some sort of windows rescue disk if it'd be useful.08:40
RAOFmjg59: Right.  For those playing at home, my laptop locks up at the very start of acpi_enable_subsystem, and I've now flashed the bios to the latest version and it *still* happens.09:58
Toma-https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/18478810:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 184788 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "rtl8180 and rtl818x disabled in kernel Makefile" [Undecided,Confirmed] 10:03
Toma-any chance of seeing those in Hardy?10:04
RAOFRight.  For my final check, I'll try adding a DSDT file from the internest.10:09
rtgToma-: the rtl wireless drivers are enabled in the Hardy kernel.10:14
Toma-rtl818x?10:14
Toma-its in the source, but blocked by the makefile10:15
rtgToma-: CONFIG_RTL8187=m10:15
Toma-yes indeed.10:16
Toma-and rtl8180 and 818x?10:16
Toma-its in linux-ubuntu-modules10:16
rtgToma-: Since the RTL family is upstream in 2.6.24, I do not intend to put them in lum.10:17
Toma-0_o10:17
rtgToma-: unless I end up backporting 'cause the upstream drivers don't work.10:17
Toma-ok 10:18
RAOFAnd for those playing at home, a custom dsdt from the internet fails to make any difference.10:21
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