| ObsidianX | whats the actual binary that is the Power Manager app | 00:25 |
|---|---|---|
| ObsidianX | i can't find it for the life of me | 00:25 |
| ObsidianX | and i can't stand it | 00:26 |
| * lamont grumbles. I want -jDNAT for ipv6 | 02:48 | |
| clever | lamont: but why?:P | 03:05 |
| clever | with ipv6 you should be able to get a public ip for every system behind the 'router' | 03:06 |
| lamont | clever: because I want to divert traffic bound for (say) $WEBSERVER to a local copy, or ditto for other traffic | 03:19 |
| lamont | DNAT has nothing to do with SNAT | 03:19 |
| clever | ah | 03:20 |
| clever | i mainly use dnat for port forwarding | 03:20 |
| clever | trafic from the web coming in geting directed to lan ip's | 03:20 |
| lamont | that too. | 03:20 |
| lamont | DNAT lets me have simpler firewall rules.. | 03:21 |
| lamont | mind you, before we get ipv6 DNAT, ip6tables needs to believe in -t nat... | 03:28 |
| RAOF | Is there anything more I info can do for bug #184712? Losing ACPI is annoying :( | 03:33 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 184712 in linux "[regression] Asus F3Jm fails to work correctly without acpi=off" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184712 | 03:33 |
| mjg59 | RAOF: Looks like it's stopping in acpi_early_init | 03:36 |
| RAOF | mjg59: Ok. What sort of extra info would be useful here? PArticularly since this seems to affect previously-working kernels, which has me perplexed. | 03:37 |
| mjg59 | Yeah, nothing springs to mind | 03:38 |
| RAOF | There wasn't a recent initramfs-tools update? Could that even cause this problem? | 03:38 |
| mjg59 | Oh, hm. No, it's getting into timer setup. | 03:39 |
| mjg59 | Or possibly not | 03:40 |
| mjg59 | I'm afraid it's a bit hard to figure out where it's actually dying | 03:40 |
| RAOF | The kernel doesn't happen to have an excesively_verbose option? :) | 03:41 |
| mjg59 | Are you able to build your own kernels? | 03:41 |
| RAOF | I'm not set up for it, but I could. I've done it before. | 03:41 |
| mjg59 | Ok | 03:41 |
| mjg59 | If you could grab the source and add something like | 03:41 |
| RAOF | Oh, except the kernel building process has changed since then, I think. I'll see :) | 03:41 |
| mjg59 | printk("Successfully enabled ACPI\n"); to drivers/acpi/bus.c in acpi_early_init after the acpi_enable_subsystem line, that would be great | 03:42 |
| mjg59 | Then we'll know whether it got out of ACPI or not | 03:42 |
| RAOF | Ok. | 03:43 |
| RAOF | Would you like me to build from Ubuntu git, or from the linux-source package? | 03:49 |
| mjg59 | git's probably a better bet | 03:50 |
| RAOF | Right. | 03:50 |
| RAOF | Man it takes a long time to git clone the kernel! | 04:27 |
| lamont | RAOF: depends on how fast your link is... 200+MB takes a while | 04:29 |
| RAOF | Well, it's clearly not saturating my local connection. On the other hand, kernel.ubuntu.com is unlikely to be in .au | 04:30 |
| lamont | rather | 04:43 |
| lamont | san francisco from my trace | 04:44 |
| RAOF | Well, it's done. Now I can spin my CPU building it instead. | 04:48 |
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| Kred | Hi, I want to supply more details of a ACPI related bug that is already reported on Launchpad. Wiki tells me to supply tarball of /proc/acpi/ but fails to explain what commands to issue. | 07:24 |
| Kred | When I try to tar it I get device busy | 07:27 |
| Kano | hi | 07:28 |
| RAOF | mjg59: Well, that took longer than I expected. Also, nothing extra got printed out; it looks like it's hanging before it's hanging before acpi_enable_subsystem returns in acpi_early_init. | 07:31 |
| * RAOF goes to update the bug. | 07:31 | |
| Kano | why are still iwl modules not in lum? | 07:42 |
| RAOF | Kano: They are in my l-u-m-2.6.24-4-generic? | 07:43 |
| Kano | they are diabled in kernel config and not in lum | 07:44 |
| RAOF | Ah, sorry. No they're not. The firmware is there, and the modules are in linux-image-2.6.24-4-generic | 07:44 |
| Kano | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy.git;a=commit;h=a07606c45a19754bfd05e0cc2abff32207c5736c | 07:45 |
| Kano | UBUNTU: Disabled iwlwifi preperatory to moving it to l-u-m. | 07:45 |
| Kano | but they never arrived in lum | 07:45 |
| tjaalton | ugh | 07:45 |
| tjaalton | that's not released yet | 07:45 |
| Kano | nad | 07:45 |
| Kano | you can never release when you dont do that | 07:47 |
| Mithrandir | Kano: whining about not-released source not being in sync is not helpful. It'll be moved into lum before the next upload. | 07:48 |
| Kano | that changes was made 6 days ago, i dont get what you are waiting for | 07:48 |
| tjaalton | I'm pretty sure they know what they are using | 07:48 |
| tjaalton | uh, doing | 07:48 |
| Mithrandir | if you're building stuff from git and it's a problem for you, don't pull that commit. | 07:49 |
| RAOF | In the unlikely event that someone's searching 'round for a bug to investigate with someone on the other end, I'm available for testing anything anyone can think of for bug #184712. | 07:52 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 184712 in linux "[regression] Asus F3Jm fails to work correctly without acpi=off" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184712 | 07:52 |
| Kano | and no changes in bcm43xx and prism54 yet | 07:52 |
| mjg59 | RAOF: In that case, it sounds like it's hanging while enabling ACPI. Which is bizarre. | 08:22 |
| mjg59 | RAOF: You can prove that by sticking another printk just before the acpi_enable_susbsystem line | 08:23 |
| RAOF | About as bizzare as the fact that it's affecting older kernels that used to work fine? | 08:23 |
| Kano | i would let him try thorhammer rc7 with a kernel without config-ide | 08:24 |
| RAOF | I'll stick that extra printk in. And wait for the kernel to build. | 08:25 |
| mjg59 | Kano: ... | 08:27 |
| mjg59 | Kano: Have you actually *read* the bug? | 08:27 |
| RAOF | mjg59: Any other printk's you'd like smattered around? It takes me some time to build the kernel :) | 08:27 |
| Kano | mjg59: standard kernels often stop with that message | 08:27 |
| mjg59 | RAOF: I'm pretty certain it's in there. If you want, you can spread some through acpi_enable_subsystem. | 08:27 |
| mjg59 | Kano: This is before any code affected by #ifdef CONFIG_IDE has been executed | 08:28 |
| mjg59 | Kano: We're still in init/main.c | 08:28 |
| Mithrandir | RAOF: use ccache; that helps at least. | 08:28 |
| mjg59 | RAOF: TBH, I'd suspect BIOS weirdness at this point more than anthing else - can you try resetting that to defaults? | 08:29 |
| RAOF | mjg59: As a part of a futile attempt to flash the bios, I already have. | 08:29 |
| mjg59 | RAOF: Hm | 08:29 |
| mjg59 | RAOF: Is the machine Ubuntu-only? | 08:29 |
| RAOF | Yup. | 08:29 |
| mjg59 | Really, really weird. | 08:30 |
| RAOF | Otherwise I could've flashed in Windows rather than wrestling with the "ez-updater" thing which apparently doesn't do anything at all. | 08:30 |
| RAOF | I could possibly find some sort of windows rescue disk if it'd be useful. | 08:40 |
| RAOF | mjg59: Right. For those playing at home, my laptop locks up at the very start of acpi_enable_subsystem, and I've now flashed the bios to the latest version and it *still* happens. | 09:58 |
| Toma- | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/184788 | 10:03 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 184788 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "rtl8180 and rtl818x disabled in kernel Makefile" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:03 |
| Toma- | any chance of seeing those in Hardy? | 10:04 |
| RAOF | Right. For my final check, I'll try adding a DSDT file from the internest. | 10:09 |
| rtg | Toma-: the rtl wireless drivers are enabled in the Hardy kernel. | 10:14 |
| Toma- | rtl818x? | 10:14 |
| Toma- | its in the source, but blocked by the makefile | 10:15 |
| rtg | Toma-: CONFIG_RTL8187=m | 10:15 |
| Toma- | yes indeed. | 10:16 |
| Toma- | and rtl8180 and 818x? | 10:16 |
| Toma- | its in linux-ubuntu-modules | 10:16 |
| rtg | Toma-: Since the RTL family is upstream in 2.6.24, I do not intend to put them in lum. | 10:17 |
| Toma- | 0_o | 10:17 |
| rtg | Toma-: unless I end up backporting 'cause the upstream drivers don't work. | 10:17 |
| Toma- | ok | 10:18 |
| RAOF | And for those playing at home, a custom dsdt from the internet fails to make any difference. | 10:21 |
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