jduggan | WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1280x720"; removing. | 00:08 |
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jduggan | a config that worked for 720p for months has stopped working, i think after an update | 00:09 |
jduggan | someone like to hint what to look at? | 00:09 |
blkorpheus | you running hardy? | 00:10 |
blkorpheus | there were updates in hardy that broke myth | 00:10 |
jduggan | im running the trunk builds in whatever the standard mythbuntu distro ships | 00:11 |
jduggan | i dont generally use ubuntu, so i dont follow the release names | 00:12 |
jduggan | trunk builds are mythtv only i believe, they shouldnt affect xorg | 00:12 |
jduggan | eb http://weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu-trunk/ubuntu gutsy mu | 00:12 |
jduggan | ltiverse universe restricted main | 00:12 |
jduggan | ^using that repo | 00:13 |
blkorpheus | my only point was update to myth | 00:13 |
blkorpheus | if the development ubuntu use trunk, then there you have it | 00:14 |
jduggan | erm, this is xorg not myth | 00:14 |
jduggan | myth works great, xorg wont get the right res :) | 00:14 |
jduggan | unless mythbuntu's repo is messing with xorg in its myth packages ;) | 00:15 |
jduggan | also, do you know if mythappearance is in the trunk builds | 00:16 |
blkorpheus | no, but there has been updates to xorg | 00:16 |
blkorpheus | they prevented me from logining in | 00:17 |
blkorpheus | loggin in | 00:17 |
blkorpheus | had to recompile my nvidia driver | 00:17 |
jduggan | hmm, my nvidia driver is working fine, perhaps i should try and find an update :) | 00:18 |
jduggan | as for mythappearance, any ideas how i can get that in mythbuntu? | 00:18 |
blkorpheus | I never said my driver had an issue | 00:18 |
jduggan | (without cheking it out of svn etc | 00:18 |
blkorpheus | all i said was I recompiled it | 00:18 |
blkorpheus | my issue then vanished | 00:19 |
jduggan | well if it worked fine, it wouldnt require a recompile ;) | 00:19 |
Lynet | It might have been for fun. | 00:19 |
Lynet | ..or he used to use Gentoo and misses it. | 00:19 |
jduggan | yea, like them people that throw themselves out of planes | 00:19 |
blkorpheus | omg | 00:19 |
jduggan | :P | 00:19 |
Lynet | ;-p | 00:20 |
Lynet | Anyway. Anyone know why my pvr-500 is producing mpeg2-files that makes vlc stutter? | 00:21 |
tgm4883_laptop | to get mythappearance into mythbuntu you will need to file a needs packaging bug against mythbuntu | 00:21 |
jduggan | tgm4883_laptop: nice one, i take it i can do this from the mythbuntu.org website | 00:22 |
tgm4883_laptop | !bugs | 00:22 |
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tgm4883_laptop | sec | 00:22 |
blkorpheus | bug #185108 | 00:23 |
squish102 | how do i make home dirs visible in apache? (~/public_html) will i screw up mythweb? | 00:24 |
jduggan | already filed? | 00:24 |
superm1 | blkorpheus, you are getting it too? | 00:25 |
jduggan | squish102: provided you load mod_userdir just Put UserDir public_html in your apache config | 00:25 |
jduggan | if youre using packaged apache you probably wont need to worry about mod_userdir | 00:26 |
jduggan | it'll be loaded | 00:26 |
tgm4883_laptop | !bug 185108 | 00:26 |
jduggan | i dont use mythweb, but i cant see any issues arising from doing so | 00:26 |
Lynet | mythweb lives under /mythweb/ and not in the web root, so it shouldn't cause problems. | 00:28 |
squish102 | kinda wired because my httpd.conf is empty (first time on ubuntu) | 00:28 |
blkorpheus | superm1, yup, I feel better knowing you too :) | 00:28 |
superm1 | blkorpheus, well i dont unfortunately | 00:28 |
superm1 | been looking to find the cause though | 00:28 |
superm1 | because thegodfather has it happening | 00:28 |
superm1 | i've tried to reproduce in a virtual machine with the new builds as well as with a hardy frontend | 00:29 |
superm1 | cant unfortunately | 00:29 |
blkorpheus | the libs and the frontend version do not match from what I could discern from the flame I got in #mythtv-users | 00:29 |
superm1 | that is not the case, they were built together | 00:29 |
superm1 | do you have a good strace or apport report that we could look at? | 00:30 |
tgm4883_laptop | superm1, are you able to VNC into your hardy mythbuntu machine? | 00:52 |
superm1 | well it's a vm | 00:53 |
superm1 | so | 00:53 |
tgm4883_laptop | ah | 00:53 |
tgm4883_laptop | I think there may be a bug in it | 00:53 |
tgm4883_laptop | i enabled the vnc service | 00:53 |
tgm4883_laptop | couldn't vnc in | 00:53 |
tgm4883_laptop | rebooted | 00:53 |
superm1 | how long is your password | 00:53 |
tgm4883_laptop | still cant | 00:53 |
tgm4883_laptop | 6 chars | 00:54 |
superm1 | is that the minimum? | 00:54 |
* tgm4883_laptop shrugs | 00:54 | |
tgm4883_laptop | yea, 6 is min | 00:54 |
tgm4883_laptop | oh F, never mind | 00:55 |
tgm4883_laptop | It helps that if you have a different user name on the target system to actually tell vnc to use that username | 00:56 |
superm1 | ah | 00:56 |
superm1 | okay brb i need to setup a second SSID on openwrt | 00:56 |
tgm4883_laptop | then you need to seed the torrent | 00:57 |
blkorpheus | arrgghh my frontend | 01:01 |
blkorpheus | :( | 01:01 |
tgm4883_laptop | interesting | 01:06 |
tgm4883_laptop | superm1, i think the fglrx driver blew up my system | 01:06 |
superm1 | wouldn't be the first time | 01:06 |
* tgm4883_laptop is going to rip it out and go with onboard video | 01:08 | |
tgm4883_laptop | there, gone | 01:09 |
tgm4883_laptop | and it only sparked a few times | 01:09 |
tgm4883_laptop | i was pretty quick at removing it that time | 01:09 |
tgm4883_laptop | didn't shock myself once | 01:09 |
tgm4883_laptop | I still think they need to work out the plug and play, it shouldn't shock you at all when you remove a piece of hardware | 01:10 |
dpantke | Is there any way of upgrading from a standard ubuntu Gutsy load to mythbuntu (gaining autologin, etc)? | 01:12 |
tgm4883_laptop | yes | 01:12 |
tgm4883_laptop | There is even instructions on how to do it | 01:12 |
dpantke | The documentation I keep looking at sends me in circles. Where's this doc at? | 01:13 |
tgm4883_laptop | what doc are you looking at? | 01:13 |
superm1 | dpantke, take a look at mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu | 01:13 |
lime4x4 | When installing mythbuntu on a motherboard with a built in geforce 7150 should i configure the tv output at setup or after installing mythbuntu? | 01:23 |
MythbuntuGuest94 | Is superm1 online? | 01:46 |
MythbuntuGuest94 | I have successfully linked a front/backend install to a freenas server. I can see that my MP3's are available and can be seen. I have no sound via the onboard motherboard sound port via headphones. any suggestions on what to try? | 01:49 |
tgm4883_laptop | MythbuntuGuest94, check it outside of mythtv | 01:54 |
MythbuntuGuest94 | thaks | 01:55 |
jduggan | 2008-01-23 02:07:04.765 Unable to configure plugin 'mythvideo': not initialized | 02:07 |
jduggan | /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/libmythvideo.so: undefined symbol: _ZN18ConfigurationGroup6byNameE7QString | 02:08 |
jduggan | anyone else seeing this in the trunk repo? | 02:08 |
jduggan | that error was fixed in a mythvideo update | 02:27 |
jduggan | pls ignore | 02:27 |
jduggan | :) | 02:27 |
blkorpheus | hope the update fixed the frontend | 02:28 |
blkorpheus | bug 185108 | 02:28 |
blkorpheus | !bug 185108 | 02:28 |
jduggan | im not seeing that bug | 02:30 |
jduggan | is that in stable, or trunk? | 02:30 |
blkorpheus | I believe trunk | 02:40 |
blkorpheus | as I'm using Hardy | 02:40 |
blkorpheus | sorry for the delay, I'm trying to fix it myself | 02:40 |
tgm4883_laptop | actually, it's probably stable | 02:40 |
blkorpheus | true | 02:40 |
blkorpheus | but the libs got an update | 02:40 |
blkorpheus | it starts up | 02:41 |
blkorpheus | then fails | 02:41 |
blkorpheus | the backend is still recording and working as normal | 02:41 |
superm1 | interesting. that stat64 issue is showing up again in mytharchive build | 05:31 |
superm1 | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11491264/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.mythplugins_0.20.2%2Bfixes15096-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 05:31 |
zero | guten morgen allerseits | 07:53 |
zero | or is this channel mainly english, than a good morning :) | 07:53 |
thegodfather | morning guys | 07:55 |
thegodfather | superm1: ping? | 07:55 |
superm1 | thegodfather, hey | 07:55 |
thegodfather | hey dude | 07:55 |
thegodfather | do you use dvb-s in your setup? | 07:55 |
superm1 | mythplugins is FTBFS due to stat64 problems too | 07:55 |
superm1 | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11491264/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.mythplugins_0.20.2%2Bfixes15096-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 07:56 |
superm1 | i dont in my setup no | 07:56 |
thegodfather | do you know anybody that does? | 07:56 |
thegodfather | i am having issues with the LNB settings | 07:56 |
thegodfather | i believe it's a DB bug | 07:56 |
superm1 | Daviey may | 07:57 |
superm1 | but i'm not positive | 07:57 |
thegodfather | feeeehe | 07:58 |
thegodfather | http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-commits/2007-August/031242.html | 07:58 |
superm1 | well cant you just modify that by hand for now in the DB if thats the case? | 07:59 |
thegodfather | yeah i could.. assuming i can find the value to change | 07:59 |
superm1 | but why that would suddenly show up now isnt explained | 07:59 |
thegodfather | because i didn't have a kernel driver that did support diseqc before yesterday | 08:00 |
thegodfather | i know it works.. scan blabla from dvb-utils works just fine | 08:00 |
superm1 | but didn't rolling back to the old libmyth resolve things? | 08:00 |
thegodfather | this is a differnt problem | 08:00 |
thegodfather | don't get confused | 08:00 |
thegodfather | rolling back libmythtv did fix the crash | 08:00 |
thegodfather | this is a selection issue from the DB | 08:01 |
superm1 | oh okay, i'm still thinking about the crash and looking into that :) | 08:01 |
superm1 | (which is looking like something in the newer binutils at this point) | 08:01 |
thegodfather | but if you don't know how dvb-s works, i doubt you can understand the problem | 08:01 |
superm1 | yeah i've never dealt with dvb-s myself | 08:01 |
superm1 | as i'm in the US | 08:01 |
superm1 | and dont do FTA | 08:01 |
camelreef | good morning in GMT | 08:08 |
superm1 | thegodfather, okay good news | 08:19 |
superm1 | thegodfather, i rebuilt (locally) that same mythtv checkout and mythplugins built against it without the stat64 problems | 08:20 |
superm1 | i suspect that rebuilding both again on the buildds will solve things then | 08:20 |
thegodfather | before you do that.. | 08:20 |
superm1 | ya? | 08:20 |
thegodfather | compare the buildd log with the local one | 08:20 |
thegodfather | check for different version of packages | 08:21 |
superm1 | well my pbuilder was set to grab newest stuff from the archive | 08:21 |
thegodfather | try to pinpoint where the breakage happened | 08:21 |
superm1 | i suspect it was in kdelibs | 08:21 |
superm1 | because that got updated right after the build | 08:21 |
superm1 | (the last build that is) | 08:21 |
thegodfather | ok, check it again | 08:21 |
thegodfather | make sure | 08:21 |
thegodfather | if there are binaries that did break other runtime binaries | 08:21 |
thegodfather | we need to go and look at everything that was built with that broken binary | 08:21 |
camelreef | Hi Mario ! | 08:22 |
superm1 | good mornin | 08:22 |
thegodfather | there might be tons of other packages that are broken the same way | 08:22 |
superm1 | k3b was one of them for at least one person | 08:22 |
superm1 | well and look at it this way, mythplugins would not build in my pbuilder or on the buildd with the first myth build that had the stat64 issue you had | 08:23 |
camelreef | I see that 8.04 is still on 0.20.2 | 08:23 |
superm1 | i rebuilt myth locally, and it does build, so i think this is a safe bet to say that was the issue | 08:23 |
superm1 | camelreef, yeah we are debating on flipping the switch at the end of the month | 08:23 |
camelreef | oooh | 08:23 |
superm1 | but i'm a bit wary because there are still 157 pending bugs open upstream | 08:23 |
camelreef | I have on Q regarding the trunk weeklies | 08:23 |
superm1 | targeted towards 0.21 | 08:23 |
thegodfather | superm1: you have a reproducible test case for a bug | 08:24 |
camelreef | are those build like the release packages? | 08:24 |
thegodfather | superm1: you need to pin it down | 08:24 |
camelreef | like names, nomenclature, etc ? | 08:24 |
superm1 | camelreef, identically | 08:24 |
thegodfather | superm1: if it is a problem like you describe, there might be other package affected by a wrong build | 08:24 |
camelreef | so they would upgrade gracefully to a 8.04 release, then | 08:24 |
superm1 | in the ideal world yes | 08:25 |
camelreef | are we in such a World ? | 08:25 |
camelreef | ;o) | 08:25 |
superm1 | we'll see :) | 08:25 |
camelreef | I'm trying to decide wether I want to switch to trunk or not | 08:25 |
superm1 | well the thing is that upstream they are shooting to be ready by next month or so | 08:26 |
superm1 | for 0.21 | 08:26 |
camelreef | ok | 08:26 |
camelreef | I'll wait, then | 08:26 |
camelreef | other topic | 08:26 |
superm1 | but if they slip on that, it will be quite a wreck of havoc for us if we are at that release already | 08:26 |
camelreef | do you have any impact on v4l-dvb drivers included in the kernel ? | 08:26 |
superm1 | no more than you would | 08:27 |
camelreef | ah | 08:27 |
camelreef | I've been following and documenting the Nova-T-500 stuff | 08:27 |
camelreef | on list and on the wiki | 08:27 |
superm1 | regarding the firmware for it? | 08:27 |
camelreef | firmware and a few off tree patches | 08:27 |
superm1 | any idea on the licensing for the firmware? | 08:27 |
camelreef | I'm pushing for a review of those last patches | 08:28 |
superm1 | well sending an email to the kernel team's ML is the best way to get those sorts of things included i've noticed | 08:28 |
camelreef | firmware is hairy, but I would like to know where to ask about the inclusion of the latest v4l-dvb tree with eventual additional patches | 08:28 |
superm1 | they are already at a feature freeze on the kernel | 08:29 |
superm1 | so i'm not sure getting a new v4l-dvb tree is gonna happen | 08:29 |
superm1 | but if the patches fix things | 08:29 |
camelreef | the nova-t-500 is a pretty attractive DVB-T board, and it would be nice to support it out of the box now that it is 99.9% stable | 08:29 |
superm1 | def agree there | 08:30 |
camelreef | especially 2 tuners with the new mux multirec feature of 0.21 | 08:30 |
superm1 | yeah that's probably why you want to move to trunk eh? | 08:30 |
camelreef | that, and other things | 08:30 |
superm1 | i've been debating myself for that same reason :) | 08:31 |
camelreef | plus the fact that the nice themes these days only track0.21 | 08:31 |
superm1 | what themes are these that you are referring to? | 08:31 |
superm1 | still have a week or two that they can be added to apt possibly | 08:32 |
camelreef | MePo - http://home.comcast.net/~zdzisekg/screenshots.html | 08:32 |
superm1 | can't do that one unfortunately due to licensing problems | 08:32 |
camelreef | I'm using an old version of this one | 08:32 |
superm1 | on the artwork he uses | 08:32 |
camelreef | Glass-wide - http://www.mythtvthemes.co.uk/glasswide.shtml | 08:33 |
superm1 | that's in hardy | 08:34 |
camelreef | Metallurgy - http://miffteevee.co.uk/themes/metallurgy.html | 08:34 |
camelreef | coool | 08:34 |
camelreef | you guys are doing a hell of a work there | 08:34 |
superm1 | stuarta got metallurgy done | 08:34 |
superm1 | cool | 08:34 |
* camelreef is a happy guy, then ! | 08:34 | |
superm1 | oh wait | 08:34 |
superm1 | "unfinished preview" | 08:35 |
superm1 | not done yet :) | 08:35 |
camelreef | I'll check on the kernel ML about the patches | 08:35 |
camelreef | and as for the themes, I can still do them manually | 08:35 |
camelreef | like we've never used any beta stuff ;o) | 08:35 |
superm1 | take a look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=mythtv-theme&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hardy&release=all | 08:35 |
camelreef | .01 releases and Beta Google | 08:36 |
superm1 | you can see everything that is available now in hardy theme wise from apt | 08:36 |
camelreef | K | 08:36 |
camelreef | nice | 08:36 |
camelreef | I'm crossing my fingers for the 0.21 timing, then | 08:37 |
superm1 | problem is that Ubuntu's feature freeze is Feb 14 | 08:37 |
superm1 | so after that its a bit rough getting newer stuff in | 08:37 |
camelreef | any hope of having 0.21/0.21-fixes in your repos if it doesn't make it in Ubuntu proper ? | 08:38 |
superm1 | it will be there for sure | 08:38 |
superm1 | but i would really prefer to make it to archive.ubuntu.com | 08:38 |
superm1 | most people dont even know about the mythbuntu repos | 08:38 |
camelreef | I'm already tracking 0.20.2-fixes from you guys | 08:39 |
camelreef | K, so all is not lost for those who know how to read and use Google ! | 08:39 |
superm1 | haha | 08:40 |
superm1 | yeah | 08:40 |
camelreef | the Flash stuff in Mythweb is tempting too, as I record mostly kid stuff and this would be nice to have when travelling | 08:40 |
camelreef | nothing like a Dora to get a bit of quiet time | 08:40 |
camelreef | and kids don;t care if it's ugly and pstage stamp-sized | 08:40 |
superm1 | yeah | 08:41 |
camelreef | thanks much, have a great day | 08:42 |
camelreef | and keep it up, greatly appreciated ! | 08:43 |
superm1 | good day to you too :) | 08:43 |
thegodfather | feh | 09:35 |
thegodfather | ok.. i got LNB selection to work with an awesome workaround | 09:35 |
thegodfather | so it's a bug in the DB | 09:35 |
thegodfather | bah... | 10:20 |
thegodfather | doesn't work | 10:20 |
blkorpheus | /usr/bin/mythfrontend.real: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libmyth-0.20.2.so.0: undefined symbol: stat64 | 10:22 |
jduggan | im not getting that error | 10:22 |
blkorpheus | arggghh | 10:24 |
blkorpheus | must be a hardy thing :( | 10:24 |
blkorpheus | what does that error mean in english? | 10:24 |
directhex|bsp | blkorpheus, it means mythfrontend wants access to a particular method or property in /usr/lib/libmyth-0.20.2.so.0 which isn't in there | 10:30 |
directhex|bsp | blkorpheus, because mythfrontend was compiled against a different, incompatible version of the library | 10:31 |
zero_ | may I interrupt you? | 10:32 |
zero_ | I'm pretty new tu mythtv and have some questions | 10:32 |
zero_ | mainly about the voip-client | 10:33 |
zero_ | I get "no open connections" | 10:37 |
zero_ | does this mean my nat is not configured correctly? | 10:38 |
zero_ | sorry, but is everyone at lunch? | 10:54 |
zero_ | :) | 10:54 |
directhex|bsp | not many people use mythphone | 11:01 |
zero_ | :) ok, that's an answer. | 11:15 |
zero_ | maybe the information module is more often used? | 11:15 |
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MythbuntuGuest29 | hello together | 15:47 |
MythbuntuGuest29 | hav a problem installing mythbuntu and can't find any help | 15:48 |
MythbuntuGuest29 | tried everything | 15:48 |
jduggan | obviously didnt try waiting ;) | 15:48 |
rhpot1991_laptop | or asking | 15:48 |
blkorpheus | well the updates fixed the frontend | 16:25 |
blkorpheus | but broke it somehow as well | 16:25 |
blkorpheus | when the frontend starts itnow goes to the pictures folder? | 16:26 |
blkorpheus | and I have to escape to get back to the main menu | 16:26 |
blkorpheus | the frontend no longer accepts remote commands either | 16:26 |
superm1 | blkorpheus, try taking out any dvds | 16:46 |
superm1 | or cds in the drives | 16:46 |
blkorpheus | got the remote working again | 16:49 |
blkorpheus | ejected my cds | 16:49 |
blkorpheus | trying frontend now | 16:50 |
blkorpheus | still starting in photo browser mode | 16:50 |
blkorpheus | weird | 16:50 |
blkorpheus | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4191648#post4191648 | 16:51 |
superm1 | any usb drives plugged in? | 16:53 |
blkorpheus | yes | 16:53 |
superm1 | try taking those out | 16:53 |
blkorpheus | unhooked | 16:53 |
blkorpheus | retying | 16:53 |
blkorpheus | trying | 16:53 |
superm1 | there is a setting in the frontend for this behvaior | 16:53 |
blkorpheus | I'm now guessing that | 16:54 |
blkorpheus | it worked! | 16:54 |
blkorpheus | thx superman | 16:54 |
blkorpheus | now to change the settings | 16:54 |
blkorpheus | sort of like how the removable media options in gnome | 16:54 |
superm1 | yeah | 16:55 |
blkorpheus | ok | 16:55 |
blkorpheus | glad this got fixed asap, thx! | 16:55 |
superm1 | no problem. wish i knew why the first build got so messed up in the linking in the first place though :) | 16:55 |
blkorpheus | now if we can help that other fella on the forum with thesame issue? | 16:55 |
blkorpheus | I just try to do my part and report mishaps | 16:56 |
superm1 | that's another known issue with launchpad | 16:57 |
superm1 | its fix has been committed and should be released with launchpad's upcoming new release | 16:57 |
blkorpheus | yeah, i did not recognize that was you on the bug page telling me to use apport | 16:57 |
superm1 | so the next weekly builds should take care of it | 16:57 |
blkorpheus | apport just did not pick up the failed start of mythfrontend | 16:57 |
superm1 | that's so bizarre. it seems to catch *everything* for me, even stuff that isn't packaged | 16:58 |
blkorpheus | "path to import images from" | 17:03 |
blkorpheus | has the cdroms and /media/usb | 17:03 |
blkorpheus | but no option to tell it to go to the photo viewer? | 17:04 |
blkorpheus | Should I just blank that line? | 17:04 |
superm1 | i'm honestly not sure the appropriate option | 17:05 |
superm1 | you'll have to play with it a bit | 17:05 |
blkorpheus | it seems for now the frontend will not stop this behavior so long as removable media is mounted | 17:20 |
blkorpheus | lookingto thebackend | 17:20 |
rhpot1991_laptop | !pastebin | 17:25 |
ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 17:25 |
blkorpheus | I don't recall having to have no removable media in the drive before I started mythtv prior to these updates? | 17:28 |
Bastian7_10 | hi | 19:20 |
Bastian7_10 | where can i change die language of mythbuntu, on the desktop the language is germen, but in den media center i had englisch | 19:21 |
laga | so, someone wants to know where to set the language to german? | 20:36 |
tgm4883_laptop | Bastian7_10 does | 20:36 |
* laga wakes up his master backend | 20:37 | |
* laga waits for his master backend to finish a file system check | 20:38 | |
laga | zubehör/konfiguration -> konfiguration -> erscheinungsbild AKA settings -> settings -> appearance | 20:40 |
laga | or something like that | 20:40 |
laga | don't have the exact wording for the english one handy | 20:40 |
Bastian7_10 | auf deutsch ist schon gut :) | 20:41 |
lime4x4 | odd problem i installed mythtv on my gutsy boxn i reboot the gusty box it wants to go thru the entire mythtv setup anyway to fix that? | 23:02 |
lime4x4 | just the front-end | 23:02 |
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