[00:00] <neverblue> Hazarath, have you installed any drivers/other apps to assist with viewing ?
[00:00] <Hazarath> neverblue: like what?
[00:00] <FactTech> Question: Does anybody have any experience getting a PCMCIA network card up and running on a laptop? I've got one that I can see via "pccardctl info" but which doesn't seem to be coming up as a network device.
[00:00] <barry_> im back and cant fix my sound
[00:01] <barry_> i wanna use my usb audio not my soundcard
[00:01] <neverblue> Hazarath, drivers
[00:01] <rr_lap> ty Dr_willis
[00:01] <neverblue> Hazarath, drivers for your video... codecs to view the movie.... ?
[00:01] <Hazarath> neverblue: All the drivers that mplayer found, yes. All installed.
[00:01] <noon> Im having problems with my wired ethernet. I can dig/ping sites. I did arp, there are no address conflicts. I do not use a proxy; I cannot load any websites in FF. I can SOMETIMES connect to services such as AIM. I can sometimes load a web page if another PC on my network has just loaded it. I am running DHCP. I am stuck.. :(
[00:02] <elPansi> Hola!
[00:02] <nominativo> re
[00:02] <Flare183> !es | elPansi
[00:02] <ubotu> elPansi: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:02] <Hazarath> neverblue: Intel drivers installed. All other AVIs in my collection play, it's just this freggin' 1,200Kbps bitrate that's killing me.
[00:02] <nblracer> hey im looking for docs or walkthough on seting up a Ubuntu user network, so that no matter what computer you sign in you have accses to all your files and settings
[00:02] <neverblue> Hazarath, not able to help you
[00:02] <tarvid> nominativo, i am dropping in in the middle but my guess is that you are having trouble with a wireless connection
[00:03] <neverblue> !pbx
[00:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pbx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:03] <nominativo> pardon?
[00:03] <barry_> i have no sound and my soundcard isent the best in the world so i want 2 use my usb audio and it dosent work idk if i dont have drivers installed or wat. when itry to test the usb audio in system>pref>sound it gets an error
[00:03] <nominativo> sorry, tarvid, i don't understand
[00:04] <tarvid> nominativo, maybe I am confused with a different thread, what was your issue?
[00:04] <nominativo> ok problems with wireless
[00:04] <nominativo> but wireless connection
[00:04] <nominativo> i don't think is the card
[00:04] <nominativo> because it has a driver
[00:05] <nominativo> and it can scan
[00:05] <Hazarath> Can anyone help me with playing back a high quality film? I tried to play it with Mplayer, and VLC, both make the system stammer, VLC more.
[00:05] <tarvid> what does iwlist ap say
[00:06] <zac_> hey guys, for some reason the wireless icon isn't showing up in my system tray so I can't select a network, what can I do?
[00:06] <tarvid> zac_, try the networking applet in the upper right
[00:06] <neverblue> Hazarath, whats the output from 'file movie.avi' ? (put on pastebin to not flood the channel)
[00:06] <neverblue> !pastebin | Hazarath
[00:06] <ubotu> Hazarath: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:06] <nickrud> zac_: alt-f2, nm-applet --sm-disable
[00:07] <nominativo> eth1      Interface doesn't have a list of Peers/Access-Points
[00:07] <noon> Im having problems with my wired ethernet. I can dig/ping sites. I did arp, there are no address conflicts. I do not use a proxy; I cannot load any websites in FF. I can SOMETIMES connect to services such as AIM. I can sometimes load a web page if another PC on my network has just loaded it. I am running DHCP. I am stuck.. :(
[00:07] <Hazarath> neverblue: What do I put in the terminal?
[00:07] <neverblue> file movie.avi
[00:07] <tarvid> nominativo, looking for the networking entry for your wireless card, mine is ath0
[00:07] <nominativo> mine is eth1 surely
[00:08] <desertc> barry_: should be no reason why you can't use both your usb card and internal one - did you try the instructions that I sent to you before?
[00:08] <cotton> if i have linux 7.04 installed and i pop in a 7.10 cd can i update without losing anything?
[00:08] <neverblue> Hazarath, file is a command, which tells you information about a file, in this case, your movie
[00:08] <tarvid> not for wireless
[00:08] <cotton> ubuntu 7.04*
[00:08] <nominativo> (is the same also for the others..)
[00:08] <falconer> cotton yes
[00:08] <cotton> thanks
[00:08] <falconer> but it is common sense to have backups in case of an emergency
[00:08] <nickrud> cotton: yes, some stuff it will want to get from the net however
[00:08] <zakke> I downloaded drivers for my graphic-card, and I'ts a .run file, how do i open it in the terminal?
[00:08] <zac_> nickrud: that created another instance of the wired network applet, but I still don't see anything about wireless. I know its working, though, because I can list access points by command line
[00:08] <soundray> cotton: you can't update with the Desktop Install CD. Get the Alternate CD if you can't do a network update
[00:08] <cotton> well ya its connected to the internet
[00:09] <tarvid> iwlist scanning?
[00:09] <cotton> whats the alternate cd?
[00:09] <soundray> !upgrade > cotton
[00:09] <Hazarath> neverblue: TheMatrix.mkv: Matroska data <-- That's it.
[00:09] <soundray> !alternate > cotton, please read your private messages
[00:09] <nickrud> cotton: releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 , the one you need to do a disk upgrade with
[00:09] <nominativo> it scans
[00:09] <nominativo> on eth1 it founds 2 networks
[00:09] <nickrud> zac_: mis read your post then. right click the applet, make sure wireless is enabled
[00:10] <tarvid> getting closer
[00:10] <pici_juvenile> What does this mean:
[00:10] <pici_juvenile> make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.o] Error 1
[00:10] <pici_juvenile> make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2
[00:10] <cotton> what do you guys recomend for a virtual machine for ubuntu
[00:10] <nominativo> it seems to be closer
[00:10] <ompaul> cotton, you can use Xen
[00:10] <nominativo> it's closer i know ;(
[00:10] <zakke> I downloaded drivers for my graphic-card, and I'ts a .run file, how do i open it in the terminal?
[00:10] <nickrud> pici_juvenile: the real errors came earlier ....
[00:10] <tarvid> in the network applet those should show in the drop down Network ID
[00:10] <zac_> nickrud: my only options are Enable Network and about. Connection information is grey'ed out
[00:10] <neverblue> Hazarath, http://www.matroska.org/technical/specs/codecid/wavpack.html :: happy reading
[00:10] <noon> Im having problems with my wired ethernet. I can dig/ping sites. I did arp, there are no address conflicts. I do not use a proxy; I cannot load any websites in FF. I can SOMETIMES connect to services such as AIM. I can sometimes load a web page if another PC on my network has just loaded it. I am running DHCP. I am stuck.. :(
[00:10] <tarvid> zac_, enable network
[00:11] <nickrud> zac_: you don't have an enable wireless option?
[00:11] <zac_> tarvid: its already enabled
[00:11] <soundray> zakke: don't install a .run file. Ubuntu supplies special packages for most hardware
[00:11] <zac_> no wireless to be seen
[00:11] <soundray> zakke: what graphic card do you have?
[00:11] <zakke> Ati radeon 9600
[00:11] <nominativo> tarvid i don't understand
[00:11] <soundray> zakke: are you on gutsy (7.10)?
[00:11] <zakke> Yes I am
[00:11] <cotton> is there a fedora chat?
[00:11] <CruCio> hmm
[00:11] <Hazarath> neverblue: What does this tell me, besides script looking things?
[00:12] <soundray> zakke: enable the restricted driver (System-Administration-Restricted Driver Manager)
[00:12] <nickrud> zac_: not sure what to say to that
[00:12] <zakke> okay, thanks!
[00:12] <CruCio> kubuntu can work alongside ubuntu right ?
[00:12] <cotton> i went to #fedora and it doesnt seem to be nething
[00:12] <tarvid> the gnome way of selecting the wireless network can be reached either throught the icon in the upper right or through System, Administration, Network
[00:12] <nominativo> ok
[00:12] <Cpudan80> CruCio: You can install the KDE package on ubuntu yes
[00:12] <pici_juvenile> nickrud: http://pastebin.ca/869213
[00:12] <Cpudan80> CruCio: Or in theory you could dual boot ubuntu + kbuntu --- but... why?
[00:12] <nominativo> i set up the parameters needed
[00:12] <tarvid> guessing you should select eth1 then properties
[00:12] <aruonoaru> i need to delete a folder thats locked on the desktop
[00:13] <neverblue> Hazarath, i think you will have to actually read it to figure it out yourself
[00:13] <CruCio> Cpuden80 , is it only the KDE package or is kubuntu included ?
[00:13] <tarvid> then thx for Network ID should show you a list of networkse dropdown bo
[00:13] <zac_> nickrud: its listed when I go to Network Settings as well. Says roaming mode is enabled
[00:13] <yogurt> hi there
[00:13] <nickrud> pici_juvenile: install the package libncurses5-dev
[00:13] <Cpudan80> CruCio: Ehhh I don't know exactly what you want -- most people just want the KDE package (so they can use KDE)
[00:13] <tarvid> ah roaming is another matter, deselect it for now
[00:13] <Jack_Sparrow> aruonoaru: You can gksudo nautilus and get it done.. use that command sparringly.. it can get you into trouble.
[00:13] <aruonoaru> removing java
[00:13] <cotton> is it a bad idea to run ubuntu and fedora on the same machine?
[00:14] <Hazarath> neverblue: I can play the file, however, it stammers, hence me having the problem. If I wanted to research and develop my own files, that can come in handy. I need something to decode the files at a better rate, or convert it, not learn how it works.
[00:14] <tarvid> roaming is zeroconf (I think) and depends on Avahi
[00:14] <Cpudan80> cotton: No, why?
[00:14] <neverblue> cotton, on different partitions, I dont see why not
[00:14] <CruCio> i have my ubuntu installed oy my PS3 and though i love it i its impossible to install java on it
[00:14] <nickrud> pici_juvenile: the first error was in line 09, that should fix it.
[00:14] <Cpudan80> cotton: On different partitions should be ok
[00:14] <nominativo> yes i'm not roaming
[00:14] <soundray> CruCio: if you want the full kubuntu desktop, do a 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[00:14] <Cpudan80> oops looks like neverblue beat me to the punch line
[00:14] <neverblue> Hazarath, your talking to the wrong person then
[00:14] <nominativo> bacause i have static ip
[00:14] <yogurt> I've changed gdm theme and changed my background colour, but still between gdm and my actualy background image coming up there's about 2 seconds of some light brown
[00:14] <yogurt> what is that?
[00:14] <yogurt> I dont understand where it's picking that up, but it obviously belongs to the default theme or something
[00:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !usplash
[00:14] <CruCio> soundray , and doing this will install kubuntu and delete ubuntu right ?
[00:14] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[00:15] <cotton> ok, does anyone know how to partition a flash drive?
[00:15] <tarvid> then clicking the down arrow next to network id should give you a list of SSIDs
[00:15] <soundray> CruCio: no
[00:15] <Hazarath> Can anyone help me with playing back a high quality film? I tried to play it with Mplayer, and VLC, both make the system stammer, VLC more. It's a MKVformat film. Tried converting to AVI, same issues:the bitrate is too high.
[00:15] <nickrud> zac_: When I do wireless in ubuntu I depend blindly on NetworkManager. It Works for Me™ and I haven't had to learn anything about the underlying stuff. I dread the day it stops and I must.
[00:15] <yogurt> Jack_Sparrow: oh, I thought that was for the image at boot time
[00:15] <soundray> CruCio: it won't delete anything (and you shouldn't, unless you're really short of space)
[00:15] <nominativo> yes i did
[00:15] <yogurt> not after gdm
[00:15] <yogurt> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[00:15] <nominativo> there is my network
[00:15] <pici_juvenile> nickrud: that did it. Thanks
[00:15] <Jack_Sparrow> yogurt: Double check.. I think it is the one you want
[00:16] <tarvid> nominativo, click on your network then ok
[00:16] <nominativo> i filled anything there
[00:16] <CruCio> ok then what would be the point in download kubuntu desktop ??
[00:16] <CruCio> will it be running alongside ubuntu ?
[00:16] <exneo> hello
[00:16] <yogurt> Jack_Sparrow: nope, it's what I thought it was, the image during boot time
[00:16] <soundray> CruCio: you can choose whether to use gnome or kde at login time
[00:16] <Spenser309> Is this the appropriate place to ask about a problem in Hardy?
[00:16] <exneo> I am learning xml by itself and I need a good dev suite for ubuntu 7.04 help
[00:16] <yogurt> Jack_Sparrow: I'm talking of the time in between gdm going away and your background loading, after login
[00:16] <barry_> i need help getting my Audigy sound card to work
[00:17] <cotton> can anyone help me partition my flash drive?
[00:17] <crimsun> barry_: what do you need?  (describe the symptoms)
[00:17] <Spenser309> cotton: you can use gparted most likely
[00:17] <yogurt> Jack_Sparrow: but that link will come handy, thanks
[00:17] <barry_> no sound at all
[00:17] <CruCio> and when i decide to use KDE , will i be logged on to kubuntu desktop ?? or only the gnome will be replaced by KDE ?
[00:17] <Jack_Sparrow> cotton: Use gparted and treat it like any other drive
[00:17] <cotton> spenser309: is gparted free?
[00:17] <Spenser309> yes
[00:17] <crimsun> barry_: download http://trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh and run it, then tell me the url it generates
[00:17] <Spenser309> cotton: sudo aptitude install gparted
[00:17] <nickrud> Ashnal: ping
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> cotton: They even have a stand alone gparted livecd
[00:18] <Cpudan80> CruCio: When you choose to login as KDE - you just the KDE "look and feel" -- your documents and stuff are all carried over
[00:18] <soundray> CruCio: if you choose a kde session, you will have a desktop environment that is exactly the same one as a kubuntu installation would provide
[00:18] <aruonoaru> jack_sparrow can i pm you i need help
[00:18] <cotton> is gparted a distro of linux?
[00:18] <CruCio> ohh
[00:18] <rafaelsoaresbr> hello all
[00:18] <CruCio> good
[00:18] <Cpudan80> CruCio: Basically when you switch between KDE and gnome, all you do is change the "front end" "look and feel"
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> aruonoaru: In channel please.
[00:18] <CruCio> this is what i wanted to hear
[00:18] <barry_> how do i run that file crimsun i save it 2 desktop im new to linux
[00:18] <CruCio> so it will be exactly as if i was running only ubuntu right ?
[00:18] <tarvid> nominativo, dhcp no password for WPA Personal
[00:19] <CruCio> kubuntu*
[00:19] <Spenser309> cotton: it's like partition magic.  It has a livecd but can also be used as a standalone application
[00:19] <tarvid> that should turn encryption off
[00:19] <CruCio> exactly as if i was running KUBUNTU*
[00:19] <CruCio> ?
[00:19] <Cpudan80> CruCio: yes
[00:19] <cotton> anyone have a link?
[00:19] <nominativo> no i've got static ip
[00:19] <CruCio> good
[00:19] <aruonoaru> i cannot delete the file the way you told me
[00:19] <cotton> for the live cd
[00:19] <Spenser309> cotton: for your application the standalone application is all you need
[00:19] <soundray> CruCio: no, because you will still have the choice to log out and use gnome instead of KDE
[00:19] <nominativo> and a wep key
[00:19] <cotton> oh ok
[00:19] <Hazarath> Need help playing back a high quality [1,200Kbps bitrate] film on my laptop. The stream plays with a lot of frame skips, effectively stammering. I tried: Mplayer with all codecs, as well as VLC, both playing the same way. I need to somehow either get a different codec to help compensate, or either a converter that at least has a UI.
[00:19] <cotton> is there a version for windows
[00:19] <Ashnal> crimsun, ive been having some issues with sound lately, crakling in certain games, and I cannot get the module for my sound card to load
[00:19] <Spenser309> umm not sure
[00:19] <Spenser309> cotton: umm not sure
[00:19] <Cpudan80> CruCio: soundray's definition is slightly more accurate
[00:19] <Spenser309> lets see
[00:20] <tarvid> if your router serves DHCP and is open life will be easier\
[00:20] <barry_> do i just double click it
[00:20] <CruCio> hmm ok so what ur saying is that , when i choose KDE my desktop be kubuntu
[00:20] <Jack_Sparrow> aruonoaru: If you cannot delete the file with root/gksudo access, it is in use or something is very wrong.. Are you trying to delete a mounted drive icon perhaps?
[00:20] <CruCio> and when i choose gnome my desktop will be ubuntu right ?
[00:20] <nominativo> yes but i share the router
[00:20] <soundray> CruCio: only if you install the kubuntu-desktop package and all its dependencies
[00:20] <CruCio> yes
[00:20] <tarvid> but the ip setup will not prevent a connection so i would look at the wep key first
[00:20] <CruCio> thats what am planing on doing
[00:21] <cotton> ok...yeah im new to linux...and mines screwed up...first the gnome wasnt working right so i wiped it and reinstalled linux and now my synaptic aint workin
[00:21] <nominativo> ok
[00:21] <crimsun> barry_: open a Terminal, then type:  bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[00:21] <CruCio> and anyways what if the difference between KDE and GNOME ?
[00:21] <aruonoaru> no trying to delete java to do a reintall with previous version 1.4.2 to run frostwire
[00:21] <soundray> CruCio: you will find out
[00:21] <cotton> so if i put my ubuntu 7.10 in what do i do to update now?
[00:21] <nominativo> i filled with my key almost anything in my pc
[00:21] <Cpudan80> CruCio: Just different "looks"
[00:21] <draeath> testing...
[00:21] <Jack_Sparrow> CruCio: two entirely different Desktops managers
[00:21] <rsk> CruCio: gnome uses gtk kde uses qt, not so different else :)
[00:21] <barry_> http://pastebin.ca/869227 there ya go
[00:22] <Cpudan80> They both make the same underlying system calls
[00:22] <CruCio> soundray , am i know tnothing about linux
[00:22] <CruCio> am really new to it
[00:22] <Cpudan80> Although they may go about it in two different way
[00:22] <tarvid> nominativo, by sharing I assume you mean there is someone else connected at this time
[00:22] <Cpudan80> ways*
[00:22] <nominativo> yes
[00:22] <soundray> CruCio: the way to find out things is to try them
[00:22] <Spenser309> cotton: i cant tell but I doesnt look like it.  Anyways heres the live cd http://download.tuxfamily.org/gpartedlive/gparted-livecd-0.3.4-11.iso
[00:22] <tarvid> if any key works then you are not running wep on the router
[00:22] <CruCio> yes exactly , just like no matter what i did i never managed to install java on ubuntu
[00:23] <nominativo> 1 ubuntu user else and 2 wincocks user
[00:23] <tarvid> try wpa personal with no passowrd or key
[00:23] <CruCio> does kubuntu has the sypnatic ?
[00:23] <CruCio> where u can install stuff ?
[00:23] <nominativo> why?
[00:23] <Spenser309> Is this an apporpriate place to get help with Hardy Heron?
[00:23] <fnord123> hi all. I have a problem where my ubuntu gutsy laptop locks up for about 10 seconds periodically. The system monitor has a dark blue background, which I think it means is IO behaviour (?)
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> CruCio: HAs a different gui package manager....
[00:23] <tarvid> because that will turn off encryotion on your end
[00:23] <Ashnal> crimsun, ive been having some issues with sound lately, crackling in certain games, and I cannot get the module for my sound card to load
[00:23] <soundray> CruCio: you can use synaptic in kubuntu, but you may prefer to use adept
[00:23] <fnord123> Has anyone heard of this issue and if so, do they know where I can look to fix it?
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Spenser309: Yes, you need to go to #Ubuntu+1
[00:24] <nominativo> bu wpa has  a lot of problem
[00:24] <nominativo> anyway
[00:24] <Spenser309> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks
[00:24] <CruCio> Ok.. and anyways is there anyone in here Using kubuntu or ubuntu on their PS3 ?
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:24] <nominativo> i tried to take off the key
[00:24] <aruonoaru> Jack_Sparrow no trying to delete java to do a reintall with previous version 1.4.2 to run frostwire
[00:24] <crimsun> barry_: oh, do this:  echo options snd-intel8x0 index=-1|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[00:24] <nominativo> and it's just the same
[00:24] <tarvid> we just want to turn off encryption and I think that is the way to do that
[00:24] <genewitch> soundray, genii: None of those options helped. i think i have to recompile the kernel or dig around and find the exact driver name so i can modprobe it
[00:24] <nominativo> i mean the same as now
[00:24] <barry_> now what
[00:25] <Qwexer> what is that link to paste error msgs as to not spam?
[00:25] <crimsun> barry_: that entire string should be pasted verbatim
[00:25] <solexious> m
[00:25] <Jack_Sparrow> aruonoaru: Downgrading seldom works as planned...  One of the problems people face when they venture outside official repos
[00:25] <crimsun> barry_: it should echo back "options snd-intel8x0 index=-1" to you, then return a prompt
[00:25] <CruCio> soundray,jack_sparrow any hopes in finding a java_plugin for PPC64 ?
[00:25] <barry_> i put wat u said in terminal
[00:25] <rafaelsoaresbr> !real
[00:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:25] <tarvid> nominativo, my router is not encrypted and my ubuntu machine says wpa personal with no password and it works and i am using it right now to connect to freenode
[00:25] <soundray> genewitch: you don't need any special drivers to use a synaptics touchpad.
[00:25] <CruCio> :(
[00:25] <nominativo> my pc thinks it's connected but it doesn't work!!
[00:25] <cotton> is there a way for me to get more than 2 workspaces in ubuntu 7.04?
[00:25] <nominativo> mmmh
[00:25] <crimsun> barry_: what's the output from `tail -1 /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base`?
[00:26] <CruCio> i really love ubuntu on my ps3 but unable to install java really suck :(
[00:26] <tarvid> then iwlist ap should show that
[00:26] <soundray> genewitch: you may have to set it up in xorg.conf
[00:26] <Qwexer> what no one knows? I dont want to paste an error and get yelled at for spamming
[00:26] <PriceChild> cotton, right click the workspace switcher, preferences then change it
[00:26] <lix> cottton: create a second user
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> CruCio: It isnt our project any more.. no idea...
[00:26] <crimsun> Ashnal: download and run the script I mentioned above
[00:26] <minimec> nominativo: what kind of connection?
[00:26] <genewitch> according to the 0.14.6 driver page certain options have to be turned on in the kernel compile... all i know is my kernel doesn't see the synaptics device
[00:26] <barry_> options snd-intel8x0 index=-1
[00:26] <aruonoaru> well then i don't know any other way to make frostwire run and now i installed java directory to desktop and can't remove it
[00:26] <nominativo> wireless
[00:26] <jrib> Qwexer: then use a pastebin
[00:26] <solexious> m
[00:26] <crimsun> barry_: good, now reboot
[00:26] <nblracer> hey im looking for docs or walkthough on seting up a Ubuntu user network, so that no matter what computer you sign in you have accses to all your files and settings
[00:26] <barry_> mmk want me to come back in here
[00:26] <tarvid> iwconfig on mine shows connected to the right ap
[00:26] <nominativo> broadcom4318 ndiswrapper using gutsy
[00:26] <jrib> !paste | Qwexer
[00:26] <ubotu> Qwexer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:27] <Spenser309> cotton: right click on the virtual desktop icon theres a prefrences option click that
[00:27] <tarvid> now if you are connecdted and there is no traffic try dhcp
[00:27] <barry_> what do i do after i reboot
[00:27] <tarvid> most routers serve dhcp by default
[00:27] <aruonoaru> jack_sparrow well then i don't know any other way to make frostwire run and now i installed java directory to desktop and can't remove it
[00:27] <crimsun> barry_: nothing.  Your audigy will be the default audio device.
[00:27] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: We talked the other day about hda Intel page being wrong.  I was checking into it and I could net even get the -driver section to work..  let me know when you get a sec..
[00:27] <barry_> okay thanks
[00:27] <nominativo> no my router has configured in static ip
[00:28] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: what couldn't you get to work?  1.0.16rc1 works fine here.
[00:28] <Ashnal> crimsun, options snd-ca0106 index=0 model=3stack position_fix=0 single_cmd=0
[00:28] <Ashnal> I recognize this line as one i put in a file the other day trying to fix things, but i forgot which file it was in
[00:28] <nominativo> is configured
[00:28] <nominativo> ^^;
[00:28] <tarvid> if you are connected can you ping your router?
[00:28] <crimsun> Ashnal: uh...
[00:28] <nominativo> no
[00:28] <nominativo> that's the problem
[00:28] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: Let me see what one I dl'd
[00:28] <minimec> nominativo: And you guess that the connection is up? Do you have the blue %-Indication of the wireless connecton or do you see two black screens in your taskbar?
[00:28] <CruCio> what makes you guys chooses Ubuntu over Kubuntu ?
[00:28] <tarvid> are you on the same subnet with the same mask?
[00:28] <nominativo> blue
[00:28] <soundray> genewitch: btw, here the device name is /dev/psaux
[00:28]  * genewitch doesn't like kde
[00:28] <MAKINGYOURXCHATL> hello
[00:28] <crimsun> Ashnal: the model, position_fix, and single_cmd parameters make no sense for that driver.  Those are for snd-hda-intel, not snd-ca0106.  Why did you use snd-ca0106?
[00:29] <jrib> CruCio: personal preference.  But why choose one over the other?  Just install both and choose kde or gnome at the login screen
[00:29] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: 1.0.9 is the one I saw at the link.. did I miss something?
[00:29] <genewitch> soundray: thanks, i tried that one as well
[00:29] <brobostigon> CruCio: gnome or kde
[00:29] <Qwexer> well hope this works, I tried to open synaptic and got this error  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53092/
[00:29] <Ashnal> crimsun, uh desperate messing with things?
[00:29] <Breakage> CruCio: was speed and minimal desktop, but i have a highish end system and now use xubuntu.
[00:29] <_Codeman_> where does the kernel tree get installed to?
[00:29] <wyclif>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[00:29] <minimec> nominativo: ok. Open a terminal and do something like 'ping www.kernel.org'
[00:29] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: *Ubuntu users need 1.0.16rc1, not anything older.
[00:29] <jrib> Qwexer: run the command that error message suggests you run
[00:29] <nominativo> no i tried yet
[00:29] <wyclif> crap.
[00:29] <CruCio> hmm.. xubuntu ?
[00:29] <nominativo> it doesn't work
[00:29] <crimsun> Ashnal: right, but those options I pointed out not only are wrong but don't exist for that module.
[00:29] <CruCio> your talking about the rat right ?
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: Let me see.. I thought I got the latest from the ones listed.
[00:30] <CruCio> ohh the mouse ?
[00:30] <Breakage> CruCio: the mouse :)
[00:30] <nominativo> nor 'ping my.rou.t.er'
[00:30] <minimec> nominativo: do 'iwconfig' in that same terminal
[00:30] <Ashnal> crimsun, ah which file are they in so i can erase them?
[00:30] <genewitch> nominativo: give me a pastebin of the console command ifconfig
[00:30] <CruCio> looks pretty much like a Rat to me
[00:30] <Breakage> CruCio: striped down to like 1.5gb but with compiz and emerald ofc.
[00:30] <nominativo> yes, it gives me no parameters of my essid
[00:30] <crimsun> Ashnal: so, first things first, fix them.  Did you use /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base?  I have no idea what strange commands you used.
[00:30] <WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW> am i making your x chat line too far to the right?
[00:30] <nominativo> i don't know why
[00:30] <Breakage> CruCio: I think mines a rat its evil.
[00:30] <LjL> yes.
[00:30] <rafaelsoaresbr> i just want to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10. how big are the packages?
[00:31] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: Newest one in the list is  File: alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a.tar.bz2
[00:31] <tarvid> nominativo, paste the output if iwconfig
[00:31] <Ashnal> crimsun, i just edited a conf file
[00:31] <minimec> nominativo: So you are not connected...
[00:31] <nominativo> ok
[00:31] <Ashnal> crimsun, somewhere in etc
[00:31] <genewitch> A lot of routers don't broadcast bssid these days
[00:31] <genewitch> so you have to know what it is
[00:31] <tarvid> CruCio, you probably have two versions of apt running, restart may be the easiest way to clean up
[00:31] <nominativo> i'm wired connected right now...^^;
[00:31] <LjL> WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW: this channel is not for jokes, it's for Ubuntu support.
[00:31] <_Codeman_> Can anyone tell me where linux-source gets installed to?
[00:31] <nominativo> paste where?
[00:32] <Breakage> CruCio: also I chose xfce over gnome over kde because of the mouse smoothing issues with the other two. I have a razer deathadder.
[00:32] <nominativo> !paste
[00:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:32] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: the most current one is ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.16rc1.tar.bz2
[00:32] <soundray> _Codeman_: as a compressed file to /usr/src
[00:32] <Breakage> accel*
[00:32] <genewitch> does anyone here have a laptop with a PCMCIA soundblaster audigy working?
[00:32] <CrazyWulf> I'm having problems getting flash player to work in Firefox.    I installed the plugin but the flash videos and such just won't play
[00:32] <CruCio> xfce ?
[00:32] <Spenser309> _Codeman_; somewhere in /usr/
[00:32] <CruCio> ohh yea the mouse right ?
[00:32] <ConstyXIV> anyone have any luck trying to run SC2K?
[00:32] <CrazyWulf> sometimes it will even freeze up the browser
[00:32] <WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW> thanks
[00:32] <ConstyXIV> in wine?
[00:32] <Breakage> CruCio: yeah lol
[00:32] <Qwexer> ty I didnt know where at first it worked
[00:33] <adrock358> Hey guys.  How do you find a USB ID?
[00:33] <soundray> adrock358: with lsusb
[00:33] <nominativo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53094/
[00:33] <tarvid> CruCio, Xubuntu is a good choice for older machines
[00:33] <Breakage> CruCio: Just made me think im using a deathadder to control the mouse :D
[00:33] <brobostigon> xubuntu is lighter, smaller
[00:33] <CruCio> screw the rat , am gonna go with the engine and the dwarf
[00:33] <nominativo> i included also iwlist scan
[00:33] <Breakage> tarvid: and new if you like responsiveness
[00:34] <CruCio> or should i say the gnome
[00:34] <Phenom_> Hello
[00:34] <Phenom_> Is this where I can ask for help with Ubuntu?
[00:34] <CruCio> lol
[00:34] <CruCio> yea..
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun:If you look at this list you will understand my confusion..  ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/
[00:34] <CruCio> whenever you log on xubuntu ,the rat starts to run
[00:34] <CruCio> making the thing spin
[00:34] <minimec> nominativo: You are not connected, I guess. No ESSID and no ?Signal Level'
[00:34] <tarvid> nominativo, the router is encrypted, you will have to match the key exactly.
[00:35] <adrock358> You know, I tried that and I got a single set of numbers.  I'm following this guide, where we are editing files, and in that file they have the usb as a pair of ID's denoted {xx@xx, xx@xx}
[00:35] <soundray> CruCio: you're not ontopic any more -- please stop
[00:35] <cobra738> hey anyone is familiar with ruby ?
[00:35] <nominativo> i've got the key
[00:35] <tarvid> i connect to many different aps, all of mine are open - not encrypted by choice'
[00:35] <Phenom_> Ok I have installed Advanced Desktop Effects in Ubuntu 7.10 Gusty and when I go to launch Quake 1 is loads in windowed mode,  but the transparent effect REALLY slows the 3D down, how can I exclude certain applications from using effects?
[00:35] <nominativo> i matched exactly
[00:35] <tarvid> makes life easier for me and I get to share a resource
[00:36] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: I'm not sure why you're not using the list on the front page (http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page)...
[00:36] <nominativo> minimec do you see?
[00:36] <CruCio> so soundray ?? what do i type in terminal again ?
[00:36] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: (see the development version column on the trailing side)
[00:36] <CruCio> to get the Kubuntu-desktop ?
[00:36] <nominativo> do you see my network wlan-ap ?
[00:36] <CruCio> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[00:36] <CruCio> sudo*
[00:36] <Breakage> CruCio: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:36] <brobostigon> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:36] <crimsun> Ashnal: I believe the one you used is stated above
[00:36] <minimec> nominativo: be aware that you often have the choise between ASCII and HEX when you enter the password in the Network Manager
[00:36] <Ashnal> crimsun, okay well that was just a stupid mistake of mine, would you happen to know if the ca0106 module has a power save feature that needs to be turned off? this fixed the sound crackling for my onboard sound
[00:36] <adrock358> soundray.  You know, I tried that and I got a single set of numbers.  I'm following this guide, where we are editing files, and in that file they have the usb as a pair of ID's denoted {xx@xx, xx@xx}.  Hey thanks for the help yesterday.
[00:37] <nominativo> yes i know
[00:37] <CruCio> it wouldn't prompt me for anything ?
[00:37] <nominativo> it's hex
[00:37] <kubitz> Hello. As new user, I don't know if this a Gnome or Ubuntu issue, but when I try to write DVD-Rs it tells me that it only supports DVD+Rs.  I ought to add that the device used to write DVD-Rs
[00:37] <crimsun> Ashnal: yes, but it's not an option per se.
[00:37] <soundray> adrock358: it's probably just reformatted
[00:37] <CruCio> soundray  am using PPC64 wouldn't matter right ?
[00:37] <Ashnal> crimsun, how would i go about doing that? as my sound card crackles when playing some games
[00:37] <CruCio> architecture is PPC64
[00:38] <nominativo> my light brights with a constant frequency
[00:38] <nominativo> it's horrible!!
[00:38] <tarvid> nominativo, interrupt your partner, turn encryption off on both ends and try again, if it works that way, you will be sure it is the password. You are within reach of two aps, both encrypted, the essid and the encryption type and the password must all match
[00:38] <brobostigon> CruCio: dont you mean g5??
[00:38] <minimec> nominativo: what does ifconfig say?
[00:38] <CruCio> No
[00:38] <CruCio> i have a PPC64 = playstation 3
[00:38] <brobostigon> ok
[00:39] <Phenom_> How do I run a program fullscreen? I am trying to get ProQuake(Quake 1) running but it seems to run at 2 frames per second in window mode
[00:39] <CruCio> or do i need g5 in order for the kubuntu-desktop to install properly ?
[00:39] <nominativo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53095/
[00:39] <Breakage> Whats the fastest gtk2-engine out at the moment? I think its murrine but not sure.
[00:39] <crimsun> Ashnal: the poorly documented 'alsactl power off'
[00:39] <tarvid> CruCio, never tried a ps3 but DSL is smaller and faster to install and play with
[00:39] <soundray> CruCio: look, you can either go and use what you've learned, or waste yours and everyone's time here by going on and on and on about it.
[00:40] <brobostigon> CruCio: if you have a ps3, i cant be g5
[00:40] <Ashnal> crimsun, what would i do with that?
[00:40] <CrazyWulf> I'm having major problems with the flash player in firefox.   I installed the plugin and now if I go to a page that has flash video or something of that sort....Not only will the video not play, but sometimes my system will completely freeze up :/     Any ideas please?
[00:40] <nominativo> tarvid i tried yet removing key it doesn't work!
[00:40] <minimec> nominativo: Hmm... You have an IP..... Can you ping the router?
[00:40] <nominativo> no
[00:40] <crimsun> Ashnal: toggle it as appropriate if it's in fact the culprit.
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: ./configure goes through but make..  make[3]: *** [/usr/src/alsa/alsa-driver-1.0.16rc1/acore/info_oss.o] Error 1
[00:41] <Ashnal> crimsun, where is that setting located?
[00:42] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: that's a bit sparse; would you pastebin the entire command and compile std{out,err}?
[00:42] <tarvid> nominativo, wlan-ap looks like plain wep vitelloni is wpa2
[00:42] <crimsun> Ashnal: it's not a setting; it's a poorly documented hidden ioctl.
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: sure
[00:42] <nominativo> mine is wlan-ap
[00:42] <minimec> nominativo: Can you install some software on that machine (Ethernet Connection)?
[00:42] <nominativo> is wep i know
[00:42] <Ashnal> crimsun, where would i toggle it then? in some obscure config file?
[00:43] <nominativo> yes, i wired now
[00:43] <nominativo> what kind of software?
[00:43] <tarvid> nominativo, then make sure the ap selected is wlan-ap
[00:43] <solexious> c
[00:43] <crimsun> Ashnal: at the cli
[00:43] <nominativo> how?
[00:43] <Spenser309> Anyone know how to install xen in hardy?
[00:43] <Ashnal> crimsun, or just enter it straight into the console?
[00:43] <Spenser309> Ubuntu+1 aint cutting it
[00:44] <Ashnal> crimsun, alright will it stick between reboots?
[00:44] <minimec> nominativo: Try to install the software 'wifi-radar' and try to play around with it.
[00:44] <tarvid> the network applet where we started and the dropdown box it should show wlan-ap and vitteloni
[00:44] <nominativo> i've got it ^_^
[00:44] <nominativo> it tells me i'm connected to none
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53099/
[00:44] <kubitz> CrazyWulf the easiest way to fix that I found is to put the libflashplayer.so file into your home directory for Firefox which seems to be /home/user/.mozilla/plugins/ or your equivalent it seems to look there first
[00:45] <crimsun> Ashnal: no.
[00:45] <tarvid> what does the dropdown box say
[00:45] <kubitz> kubitz then I used locate to find any other copies and removed them
[00:45] <nominativo> Connected to None (IP Address 192.168.1.121)
[00:45] <duvnel1> I'm getting the following X error
[00:45] <duvnel1> (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __glXFindDRIScreen)
[00:45] <duvnel1> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[00:45] <minimec> nominativo: Try to establish a connection without encryption first...
[00:45] <julz> how do i use the sudo command to gain admin privelages when starting synaptic from the launcher?
[00:45] <duvnel1> (and it's obviously making everything slow)
[00:46] <nominativo> there is also a non encrypted network
[00:46] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: you must not be compiling against 2.6.24-rc headers.
[00:46] <tarvid> what is in the Network id BOX
[00:46] <Ashnal> crimsun,ashnal@ashnal-desktop:~$ alsactl power off
[00:46] <Ashnal> alsactl: Unknown command 'power'...
[00:46] <Ashnal> it seems it doesnt exist?
[00:46] <nominativo> but it can't have an ip address
[00:46] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: (BTW, no need to `sudo make`.  `make` is sufficient.)
[00:46] <Miron> I've got a network card that isn't working, but it's supposedly plug-and-play for ubuntu
[00:46] <Miron> but it isn't showing up in 7.10
[00:46] <tarvid> if you have static ip it will
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: thanks.. I thought I had the headers right.. let me check,
[00:46] <duvnel1> what happened was that I tried using ATI's driver from their website, but that screwed everything up.. I've sense re-installed the flgrx and ati debs and xorgs debs.. but it's really slo
[00:46] <nominativo> yesterday it had an ip
[00:47] <nominativo> but cannot browse
[00:47] <nominativo> nor ping that router
[00:47] <tarvid> ip is secondary, connection is independent of ip
[00:47] <tarvid> what is in the network id box?
[00:47] <nominativo> is not mine
[00:47] <nominativo> W GBMF
[00:48] <minimec> nominativo: check ifconfig again... 'Connected to None (IP Address 192.168.1.121)' <-- is your ethernet connection...
[00:48] <Miron> Do I need to download drivers for the WDA-2320? Nobody's had a problem with it yet, but it's not showing up on my computer...
[00:48] <tarvid> click the down arrow and see if yours shows up
[00:48] <nominativo> that's the essid
[00:48] <crimsun> Ashnal: it's available in older versions of alsactl
[00:48] <kubitz> Miron wireless or wired what make?
[00:48] <tarvid> click the down arrow
[00:48] <Miron> D-Link and wireless
[00:48] <nominativo> it's just the same
[00:48] <Ashnal> crimsun, i see the documentation page http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Alsactl what would the card number be?
[00:49] <tarvid> the down arrow should drop a list, what's in the list,
[00:49] <tarvid> be explicit
[00:49] <nominativo> there is wlan-ap (mine) and another with wpa
[00:49] <crimsun> Ashnal: whichever is from /proc/asound/cards
[00:49] <tarvid> select wlan-ap
[00:49] <tarvid> then ok
[00:49] <nominativo> yes
[00:49] <Miron> It's supposedly plug-and-play, but it hasn't been for me. Base install from the latest CD, and no updates.
[00:49] <nominativo> i did hours ago
[00:50] <tarvid> do it now
[00:50] <julz> how do i launcg synaptic with admin privelages?
[00:50] <nominativo> i do
[00:50] <rsk> julz: sudo synaptic
[00:50] <tarvid> now what is in the network id box
[00:50] <dracula2> what kind of computer do you own?
[00:50] <nominativo> nothing
[00:50] <nominativo> else
[00:50] <genewitch> anyone know how to disable onboard sound so my creative labs PCMCIA card will take over?
[00:51] <julz> rsk: i do this and get no error msg, but synaptic still won't launch...
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: I checked my kernel uname and I have the headers for that generic kernel installed.. what to check next
[00:51] <crimsun> genewitch: blacklist it.  See /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist for the syntax.
[00:51] <tarvid> genewitch, bios
[00:51] <kubitz> Miron is it usb or pcmcia
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> genewitch: bios/cmos
[00:51] <Miron> PCMCIA card
[00:51] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: is it dapper's, edgy's, feisty's, gutsy's, or hardy's?
[00:51] <Miron> or PCI rather
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> gutsy
[00:52] <rsk> weird
[00:52] <crimsun> 2.6.22-14-generic?
[00:52] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: normal updtates
[00:52] <rsk> sounds like a broken system somehow
[00:52] <kubitz> Miron I was just reading about some issues with those http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ftp/SUPPORTED.CARDS
[00:52] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP
[00:52] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: worked earlier, but I could have been using hardy mistakenly.  I'll look in a few hours.
[00:52] <nominativo> there is nothing else in the box now
[00:52] <Ashnal> crimsun, seems power is no longer an option in this alsactr
[00:53] <genewitch> crimsun: thanks, my bios only has 2 options... boot drive and vram
[00:53] <julz> rsk: it launches fine without the sudo, but then i can't apply changes. im trying to fix this problem-->  http://www.ubuntux.org/gnome-panels-not-working-or-responding
[00:53] <Miron> I don't think my card is on that list
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: THANKS.. NOT NEEDED FOR ME.. BUT WANTED TO LOOK AT IN SINCE WE TALKED
[00:53] <tarvid> tell me what is in the box explicitly
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: Sorry for the caps people
[00:53] <nominativo> maybe i will return to bcm43xx driver
[00:53] <kubitz>  It says D-Link DWL-650 [older version, NOT new CardBus ones or 650+]
[00:53] <kubitz> Does you card fall into that class?
[00:53] <Miron> Mine's a WDA=2320 though
[00:53] <nominativo> tarvid: nothing else now
[00:53] <Miron> er wda-2320
[00:53] <kubitz> Ah right
[00:54] <tarvid> nominativo, you mean it is blank and there are no characters of any kind?
[00:54] <nominativo> now two networks but there is still mine
[00:54] <nominativo> yes but it depends
[00:54] <duvnel1> what is AIGLX in the xorg logs
[00:54] <tarvid> nominativo, then click on yours and see if it sticks
[00:54] <nominativo> i clicked on mine
[00:54] <nominativo> ooooh
[00:55] <Bizzeh> hey
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> duvnel1: Having some video card issues?
[00:55] <Bizzeh> how do i enable my scroll wheel on ubuntu?
[00:55] <nominativo> it's not easy as it seems
[00:55] <Flare183> !away > miron_away
[00:55] <duvnel1> Jack_Sparrow: yes.. repeating
[00:56] <tarvid> nominativo, it can be very frustrating
[00:56] <Perdente> since the last update my PRO/Wireless 3945ABG has stopped working and I was wondering if anyone could help me get it back up
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> duvnel1: Which ATI video card?
[00:56] <nominativo> thank you anyway...i will resolve it i know, by myself
[00:56] <duvnel1>  I'm getting the following X error
[00:56] <duvnel1> (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __glXFindDRIScreen)
[00:56] <duvnel1> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[00:56] <nominativo> it's difficult to explain so many things
[00:56] <crwlr> evenin again, everybody.  i am doing a fresh install on my desktop so i can get this twinview deal setup.  got any specialists in here tonight?!?!
[00:56] <tarvid> but did your essid stick?
[00:56] <nominativo> anyway i posted in the ubuntu forum
[00:56] <Flare183> !twinview
[00:56] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[00:56] <duvnel1> what happened was that I tried using ATI's driver from their website, but that screwed everything up.. I've sense re-installed the flgrx and ati debs and xorgs debs.. but it's still messed up
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> duvnel1: Which ATI video card?
[00:57] <nominativo> search for "Annalisa"
[00:57] <duvnel1> it seems that something installed is still looking for that symbol that didn't used to be required
[00:57] <minimec> nominativo: You could try to use the 'iwconfig commands' like 'sudo iwconfig wth1 essid wlan-ag'
[00:57] <nominativo> 'night
[00:57] <kubitz> Miron it suggest here http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=D-Link that you need the madwifi driver but then it lists you model as pci
[00:57] <nominativo> i tried!!!
[00:57] <nominativo> but
[00:57] <Flare183> Calm down people
[00:57] <nominativo> iwconfig doesn't listen to me!!!
[00:57] <duvnel1> Jack_Sparrow: Radeon Mobility X600.. I had compiz working perfectly prior to trying the driver directly from ATI
[00:57] <agentmarmite> anyone know much about installing Creative XFi drivers in Ubuntu?! I have no sound!!! Thanks.
[00:57] <Flare183> good grief
[00:58] <Perdente> since the last update my PRO/Wireless 3945ABG has stopped working and I was wondering if anyone could help me get it back up
[00:58] <tarvid> trust the applet
[00:58] <tarvid> it works
[00:58] <Perdente> is there anyway to un-upgrade so I can take the last upgrade back?
[00:58] <minimec> nominativo: Wish yo all the best... ;)
[00:58] <Flare183> !repeat | Perdente (can't resist)
[00:58] <ubotu> Perdente (can't resist): Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:58] <Kilroy> Perdente, have you showed it some pron yet?
[00:58] <nominativo> the applet? ok i will ^_^
[00:58] <rsk> agentmarmite: there is only drivers for x-fi under x86_64bit linux (ubuntu) and they are in beta. should be able to get them from their site
[00:58] <nominativo> bye guys!!!
[00:58] <Pici> Perdente: no, downgrading is not supported.
[00:59] <Perdente> pici, ok that's what I thought, plus then I would have to stop forever or figure out which one it is
[00:59] <agentmarmite> rsk: thankyou. i have downloaded the drivers and im fairly sure im using the 64-bit Ubuntu, but i cant seem to get the installer working
[00:59] <agentmarmite> rsk: im somewhat of a noob (second day using ubuntu switching from XP!)
[00:59] <tarvid> Perdente, what is the issue?
[00:59] <histo> Bizzeh: System > Preferences > Mouse
[00:59] <Perdente> kilroy, no I have another comp for that
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> duvnel1: the following, which are blacklisted due to stability/compatibility issues: Intel 965, ATI Rs480 and Rv350, ATI Mobility x300, x600 and x700
[00:59] <TheZealot> is there a script I can run for Gnome in Ubuntu to let me make advanced settings to the appearance of my windows? I.E. make windows not Snap-To the top and btotom of my screen?
[00:59] <agentmarmite> rsk: is there a way i can check my OS version/type?
[00:59] <Perdente> tarvid, my PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[01:00] <Perdente> stopped working since the last upgrade
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> duvnel1: You may need to go to #Compiz to get that fixed...
[01:00] <duvnel1> Jack_Sparrow: it's not blacklisted, and it was working fine
[01:00] <duvnel1> k
[01:00] <tarvid> Perdente, lets start with the applet
[01:00] <Tomcat_> TheZealot: Some of that should be in "gconf-editor"
[01:00] <kubitz> I ave to go now
[01:00] <tarvid> click on the networking icon in the upper right and then config manually
[01:00] <TheZealot> thanx Tomcat
[01:00] <krucial> ernet.org
[01:00] <duvnel1> I think the www-ATI driver may have replaced some of the GL libs.. I'll reinstall mesa as well
[01:00] <Tomcat_> TheZealot: Check /apps/compiz
[01:00] <Perdente> tarvid, ok umm, nm-applet says that I don't have wireless anymore, only networking
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> duvnel1: What does fglrxinfo  show
[01:01] <tarvid> Perdente, try a depmod
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> duvnel1: The OpenGL vendor string should read ATI and not Mesa
[01:02] <duvnel1> that ATI is the renderer, but the xorg log definately shows (as you can see above) that it dropped to using teh software renderer (apparently within the ATI driver itself)
[01:02] <tarvid> Perdente, then try restarting udev and watch the logs
[01:02] <icesword> hi,body
[01:02] <duvnel1> or AIGLX itself
[01:02] <duvnel1> I'm abou to restart X.. back in a few
[01:02] <grekkos> for what reason would grub stop loading (or load very slowly) and how can I fix this?
[01:03] <Perdente> tarvid, sorry I'm kinda've a noob, how would I restart udev?
[01:03] <Perdente> and where does depmod save to?
[01:03] <ehc> where are icons stored?
[01:03] <grekkos> I thought my hard drive was fried but I can still mount it from my ubuntu install disc
[01:03] <icesword> i want to ask which file controls java ,for fonts failure?
[01:03] <tarvid> Perdente, open a terminal window then sudo bash
[01:03] <grekkos> !grub
[01:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:04] <Perdente> tarvid, ok
[01:04] <druke> what is the plugin to make compiz layer the windows on cube rotate
[01:04] <tarvid> then type depmod
[01:04] <tarvid> it will try and fix missing dependencies in modules
[01:04] <icesword> how to configure java ,for wrong fonts
[01:04] <leprasmurf> hello all.  trying to resize an lvm.  When I try to resize it, I get the following error:  /sbin/e2fsck: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/vg/myth
[01:05] <TheZealot> Anyone ever have a window maximized and when you hover over the top bar you get this funky pulldown grey bar that gets in the way?
[01:05] <leprasmurf> I know I've umounted the volume, and I've stopped any service I could see in ps that I didn't need
[01:05] <Creationist> I'm trying to watch a DVD (which used to work fine
[01:05] <Perdente> tarvid, ok, it is now on the next line
[01:05] <Creationist> But now VLC just won't load it
[01:05] <Creationist> Grr... stupid enter key.  Let me try again
[01:05] <tarvid> Perdente, ifconfig
[01:06] <tarvid> Perdente, does your wireless connection show up?
[01:06] <Creationist> I'm trying to watch a DVD, which used to work flawlessly, but now VLC won't load it (no messages), MPlayer won't play ANYTHING (and never has), and Kaffeine says I may not have permission.  I've installed the css keys and such already.  What gives?
[01:07] <tarvid> Perdente, then iwconfig
[01:07] <Perdente> tarvid, one sec, I am actually on the same computer that has the fault, but I am using a firends linksys plugin, so I guess I will take it out run depmod again and see if eth0 fixes
[01:07] <agentmarmite> guys any clue how to get my Creative XFi Elite Pro soundcard to work with the drivers I have from Creative? Thanks
[01:07] <veynom> !agpgart
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about agpgart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <Perdente> tarvid, right now though, eth0 shows up, but it always shows 0 packets, collissions or anything
[01:08] <tarvid> Perdente, iwconfig should show more info
[01:08] <Ette> anyone remember where the file is where i would stick an alias to keep it permaninty
[01:08] <Ette> permanently *
[01:08] <jrib> Ette: ~/.bashrc
[01:08] <eugman> how can I make it so the equivalent of dhclient eth1 happens automatically when my server boots up?
[01:08] <Perdente> tarvid, eth0 right now has no wireless extensions
[01:08] <prodigel2> Hi. Anyone can help with an ubuntu - postgres question?
[01:08] <Ette> jirb: thank
[01:08] <Ette> !anyone
[01:08] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:09]  * Creationist is so tired of Ubuntu functionality breaking for no apparant reason... probably due to incompetent "updates..."?
[01:09] <Kilroy> Creationist, maybe god has something to do with it?
[01:09] <veynom> whats the difference between NvAGP and agpgart?
[01:09] <ion> usb question: Hey I have a rt73 wifi card and when I plug in my sandisk sansa my wireless disconnects, how can I fix this
[01:09] <tarvid> Perdente, my iwconfig http://pastebin.ca/869265
[01:10] <Creationist> Kilroy: My, aren't you clever?  Shush
[01:10] <icesword> hi,i want configure java,coz font hash,how to?
[01:10] <Kilroy> Creationist, yes master
[01:10] <prodigel2> I've installed postre 8.2 om my ubuntu 7.10 computer, also phppgadmin, all without errors. The problem is that while trying to login with psql from console with some user/pasword I've set up it fails to authenticate, using phppgadmin it succeeds.
[01:11] <Joelito> Hi everyone
[01:11] <soldats> Creationist, that isnt the kind of statement to make on an ubuntu "support" channel
[01:11] <Joelito> does anyone know a linux alternative to create flash animations?
[01:11] <Perdente> tarvid, my iwconfig with eth2 being a plugin linksys wireless and my ifconfig http://pastebin.ca/869267
[01:12] <druke> what is the plugin to make compiz layer the windows on cube rotate
[01:12] <Creationist> soldats: Neither was his attack on my chosen nickname when I requested support.
[01:12] <tarvid> Joelito, take at look at SVGs some offspring are offering some hope
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> druke: Ask in #Compiz and let us know... sounds like fun
[01:12] <power788> How can I change the font color of the Ubuntu Gnome Menu? (Applications, Places, System)
[01:12] <grekkos> Can anyone help me? My grub is taking a very long time to load (a lot longer than usual) and the operating systems on the machine won't start either I get a blinking cursor for a while and then eventually my monitor shuts off
[01:12] <Perdente> tarvid, from what I remember too, my eth0 used to be my wireless as odd as that is
[01:12] <grekkos> druke: it's called rotate cube
[01:12] <druke> ah sure thing Jack_Sparrow
[01:13] <Joelito> tarvid, ok :)
[01:13] <soldats> Creationist, true. i agree. but keep the support chan to support :P, i personally appreciate your opinion
[01:13] <ion> my sandisk sansa mp3 player disconnects my wifi when I plug it in
[01:13] <druke> grekkos, is it "raise on rotate" ? because that doesn't seem to do anything
[01:13] <grekkos> no?
[01:14] <grekkos> druke: there's an option called "Rotate Cube" in the CompizConig manager
[01:14] <ardchoille> I installed ubuntu-desktop in kubuntu (switching totally to know here) and I didn't have window borders. I did System > Appearance > Vis Effects tab and clicked None and got my window border back. Was this the right way to do this?
[01:14] <tarvid> Perdente, you are connected
[01:14] <piranesi> is it normal that with nvidia driver I can only choose between 50 and 54 hz refresh rates?
[01:14] <raj_> help .... i cant see nothing on my screen after installing the 96xx geoforce driver is there anyone that can help me? all i see is lines on the screen
[01:14] <druke> grekkos, yes its enabled, I can rotate my cube fine its, the windows jsut don't layer, they are flat on the cube
[01:14] <Creationist> When trying to play a DVD, I keep getting errors saying "Could not read NAV packet."  What do I need to do to REfix this?   This is yet another example of something that worked one day and not the next.... grr.
[01:14] <grekkos> oh
[01:14] <grekkos> druke: you're talking about the option that makes them pop out of the cube?
[01:14] <soldats> ardchoille, most likely yes since each wm handles win bordoers differently
[01:15] <druke> grekkos, yes!
[01:15] <grekkos> druke: I forgot what that's called but the people in the compiz channel will know
[01:15] <druke> grekkos, thanks a ton :D
[01:15] <kronos> alguien sabe de un canal en español?
[01:15] <Perdente> tarvid, the linksys one is, but when I take it out, gnome gets rid of my wireless option
[01:15] <grekkos> druke: try #compiz-fusion
[01:15] <joeamined> hi
[01:15] <eugman> When I turn on my server, I can login but the login prompt isn't there at first. The bootup list just sits there mocking me.
[01:15] <grekkos> !spn
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <grekkos> bleh
[01:15] <joeamined> i'm having a small problem
[01:15] <raj_> help .... i cant see nothing on my screen after installing the 96xx geoforce driver is there anyone that can help me? all i see is lines on the screen
[01:15] <juso> Is samba or nfs secure enough to have open to the internet nowadays?
[01:16] <agentmarmite> im having a gigantic problem.
[01:16] <agentmarmite> it's monolithic
[01:16] <soldats> !ask | joeamined
[01:16] <ubotu> joeamined: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:16] <agentmarmite> gargantuan
[01:16] <kronos> como puedo instala compiz-fusion en ubunto 7.10?
[01:16] <ardchoille> soldats: ok, that seemed to replace compiz with metacity, which works for me :)
[01:16] <tarvid> Perdente, even so the error rate is high, this is not going to be easy to fix, the linksys card should be fairly inexpensive
[01:16] <grekkos> what's the name of the spanish ubuntu channel? kronos wants to know
[01:16] <th0r> !es
[01:16] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:16] <soldats> cool :P
[01:17] <grekkos> oh that makes much more sense ;)
[01:17] <kronos> gracias
[01:17] <grekkos> de nada ;)
[01:17] <Perdente> tarvid, the error rate is high?
[01:18] <grekkos> can anyone tell me why my grub takes a really long time to load? It seriously took my computer about 5 minutes to load grub and then another 5-10 to begin loading the kernel
[01:18] <tarvid> Perdente, from the ifconfig etch2 rx errors 207
[01:18] <joeamined> I'm executing a sh file calling java compiler with in its classpath parameters a space (for exple : /home/Chapter 5/). When i launch the command directly from the terminal, it works because i surrounded the string with cotes, but from the shell using EXEC ... it takes the space for the end of the argument
[01:18] <Creationist> When trying to play a DVD, I keep getting errors saying "Could not read NAV packet."  What do I need to do to REfix this?   This is yet another example of something that worked one day and not the next.... grr.
[01:19] <th0r> joeamined place a '\' in front of the space
[01:19] <joeamined> th0r, the problem is that it is a variable
[01:19] <joeamined> i can't hardcode a space
[01:19] <oceanjonesn> I am having trouble keeping my correct DNS names after a re-boot.  How can I manually set my DNS server names and not have my local router step in on boot?
[01:21] <th0r> oceanjonesn place them in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:21] <Perdente> tarvid, well yeah, but that's the linksys usb card that's hooked up to my comp it also has an internally built PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection that worked fine but then stopped working and when I came here last time some op said that it was because of the upgrade and that he had had the same problem but that he had fixed it somehow
[01:22] <Perdente> it=my laptop
[01:22] <soldats> creationsit why did you leave i found a page for you
[01:22] <oceanjonesn> I have using the sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf,  but after reboot the old DNS is back.  I believe DHCP is setting the bad DNS names.
[01:23] <th0r> oceanjonesn I believe you can disable dns update in the same place you mark the card as static or dhcp
[01:23] <raj_> help aNYONE?
[01:23] <tarvid> Perdente, it would be nice if people who fixed problems would leave a message saying how they fixed it. Cleverly worded google search might work. The drupal channels are logged so I can go back and look
[01:23] <raj_> please it is urgent
[01:24] <Cpudan80> Anyone here use ubuntu on an IBM thinkpad (any variety)?
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> raj_: All you can do is ask your question and wait for someone to answer
[01:24] <soldats> !ask
[01:24] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:24] <Cpudan80> I need some help with the sound card ----- I want to tie the volume control to *both* the hardware end of things (up/down buttons on the laptop) and the software volume control
[01:24] <Perdente> tarvid, I could research solutions on google if you think its best, my only fear is I found a bunch of errors from ubuntu 6.* etc and I think this error might be to new to have been recorded yet
[01:25] <tarvid> Perdente, nowis alway a good time to back up
[01:25] <Patrickva> Sup Cpudan80
[01:25] <raj_> i installed 96xx driver on my toshiba m10 laptop and now i cant see anything on my screen ... it sis the correct driver but i cant see anything on my screen .. i tried to change the resolution on my desktop using the termina root > video .. no luck ANY HELP would be appreciated
[01:25] <grekkos> !video
[01:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:25] <Cpudan80> Patrickva: howdy
[01:25] <Patrickva> Howdy, Partner.
[01:25] <tarvid> Then the reticence to reload diminsihes. I always use the aloternate CD
[01:25] <Patrickva> I know you from somewhere, Cpudan80
[01:25] <grekkos> Can anyone tell me why my mplayer no longer plays video
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !res > raj_:
[01:26] <Patrickva> Das nerd.
[01:26] <tarvid> I've reloaded three times before breakfast
[01:26] <Cpudan80> Patrickva: ##windows maybe -- you're no longer banned there btw
[01:26] <Patrickva> I know.
[01:26] <Patrickva> I'm in there right now.
[01:26] <grekkos> I get a message saying "It seems there is no Xvideo support for your Video card available"
[01:26] <Patrickva> I was being sarcastic by the wai.
[01:26] <grekkos> but it worked a few hours ago
[01:26] <raj_> if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated
[01:26] <Perdente> tarvid, is there a backup function in ubuntu or you mean back my data up because I always have a copy of my stuff on an external, I'm just afraid that I'll reinstall gutsy and then when all the upgrades go through I'm in the same boat
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> raj_: Did you get a PM from ubotu about res?
[01:27] <ramza3> how do I set up universe, so I can get lighttpd
[01:27] <oceanjonesn> I am using the network administration tool and I do not see that setting in either the static address or DHCP settings.
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !repos > ramza3
[01:27] <ubuntuo> hey i got a question: when i type "uptime" in terminal
[01:28] <ubuntuo> it sasy 2 users logged in
[01:28] <tarvid> Perdente, hardy?
[01:28] <ubuntuo> but i am the onlyone logged in
[01:28] <soldats> Jack_Sparrow, tell raj about trying startx in terminal as well since some people seem to not install xorg
[01:28] <Reilwin> ubuntuo: not that I'm an expert, but wouldn't that be the superuser?
[01:28] <ubuntuo> im not sure
[01:29] <sn00zer> can somebody please help me with vnc? I have realvnc on my xp box and when i try to connect from my ubuntu box it says x connection broken
[01:29] <ubuntuo> reilwin: when you type "users" what appears?
[01:29] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: How do you want to setup your VNC?
[01:29] <Reilwin> ubuntuo: heh, my username is repeated twice
[01:29] <soldats> ubuntuo, if only one user login in only one user should be logged ine. try "who" in terminal
[01:29] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: there are two ways basically -- 1: Must be logged in to machine to use VNC (much like XP Remote Assistance) -- 2: Totally remote (much like XP remote desktop)
[01:30] <ubuntuo> ok
[01:30] <raj_> JACK_Sparrow: i got it from respo YEs .. but it messed up my system
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> raj_:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart when you get done reconfiguring xorg....
[01:30] <Perdente> tarvid, what's hardy?
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone know of a web interface to ssh, so I could use it from places that had firewall rules to block it normally?  (ie, something I could run on a web server at home)
[01:30] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: i suppose totally remote
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> raj_: WHich repo?
[01:30] <Ademan> where do you install fonts to in your user directory? ~/.fonts ?
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> !hardy | Perdente
[01:30] <ubotu> Perdente: hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> !fonts | Ademan
[01:30] <ubotu> Ademan: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:30] <ubuntuo> soldats: when i type "who" i get this
[01:31] <ubuntuo> ally   tty7         2008-01-22 06:17 (:0)
[01:31] <ubuntuo> ally   pts/0        2008-01-22 20:28 (:0.0)
[01:31] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: It's not easy to do.... but.... hang on
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> raj_: And did you go through troubleshooting on the page I sent to you via Ubotu
[01:31] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: ok, i'll try the easy way
[01:31] <EtteSB> !paste : ubuntuo
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste : ubuntuo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <iBA86> i have to use the rescue cd to fix the partions, what do i set them to?
[01:31] <EtteSB> !paste
[01:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:31] <soldats> ubuntuo, looks like only one user is loggeg in
[01:31] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: Try this
[01:31] <juso> Whats diff between kubuntu and kubuntu, ubuntu can have kde, no?
[01:31] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/
[01:31] <raj_> jack_Sparrow: i got it from synatics the 96xx driver for geoforce .. and it messed up my screen
[01:31] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: then if it doesn't fit my needs, go with the hard way
[01:31] <juso> err ubuntu and kubuntu*
[01:31] <ubuntuo> ic
[01:31] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: Just follow the steps, it works in Gutsy
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> juso: It's just which DE is default.
[01:31] <ubuntuo> soldats: look when i type "uptime"
[01:32] <raj_> jack_sparrow: i tried to change resolution using the terminal ... video > no luck
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> raj_: Read the !res link I gave you.
[01:32] <Perdente> tarvid, so reboot and wait for hardy?
[01:32] <ubuntuo>  20:30:17 up 14:13,  2 users,  load average: 0.65, 0.54, 0.47
[01:32] <EtteSB> juso: ubuntu = gnome, kbuntu = kde. altho both can use each others progs via QT
[01:32] <juso> Ahh ok, got it, thanks tonyyarusso
[01:32] <raj_> jack_sparrow ... i type that and restart and get back on here?
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !res
[01:32] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:32] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: I use KDE, is that going to be a problem? kubuntu channel didn't offer any help
[01:33] <EtteSB> im making an alias but it keeps saying unexpected end of file (for .bashrc)
[01:33] <soldats> ubuntuo, your name is logged as tty0 and tty7 as far as i can tell
[01:33] <ubuntuo> yes
[01:33] <ubuntuo> okay
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Cpudan80: as long as it is not KDE specific we dont cre too  much
[01:33] <Patrickva> My name is dongle.
[01:33] <ubuntuo> just wonder soldats, thanks
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> care
[01:33] <tarvid> Perdente, hardy works, always some risk but you have demonstrated that just running upgrades can be perilous
[01:33] <joe_sae> hey eric
[01:33] <Patrickva> Nice to meet you, Dongle.
[01:33] <joe_sae> hey eric_sae
[01:33] <Harkins> I'm trying to install ssh and openssh-server and get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53102/ -- any idea what's wrong here?
[01:33] <DongleDude> Hai.
[01:33] <Perdente> tarvid, what have I got to lose, thanks for the advice, I'll try it out
[01:33] <Perdente> :)
[01:33] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: Shouldn't be -- I'd log into gnome (if you can) so the instructions are verbatim...
[01:34] <joe_sae> eric_sae: dude this ltsp setup rocks
[01:34] <tarvid> I had madwifi problems when I first upgraded to gutsy, then they just disappeared
[01:34] <joe_sae> no disks! and woo hoo on a crappy p3 too!
[01:34] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: ok, thanks
[01:34] <EtteSB> when i start terminal i get "bash: /home/ette/.bashrc: line 76: syntax error: unexpected end of file" i tried making an alias for terminal but it didn't work. anyone know where i caoud get a guide or someone to walk me through how to make one?
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> joe_sae: What are the specs of the server?
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> joe_sae: Glad you finally got it installed..
[01:35] <Perdente> tarvid, and you always have to push forward so might was well find a way to make it work now than cling on to the old version ^_^
[01:35] <joe_sae> yeah! it turns out it is a athlon x2 with 2gb of mem supporting 15 systems
[01:35] <joe_sae> for now
[01:35] <joe_sae> as a test
[01:35] <joe_sae> :)
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> not bad
[01:36] <tarvid> Perdente, but I think you have a driver problem, the fix is never easy, i fixed one because device recognition was wrong, my current setup has one device id problem and works anyhow and I am loathe to fix it
[01:36] <joe_sae> yeah...and the performance (non PG response) f'ing kicks ass!
[01:36] <raj_> jack_sparrow: It gives me nothing only 3 things listed
[01:36] <joe_sae> the kids at the school are going to be so happy...
[01:36] <raj_> jack_sparrow: and asks me for a passwork
[01:36] <ramza3> why isn't lighttpd part of main ubuntu system
[01:36] <soldats> joe_sae, thats awesome
[01:36] <Cpudan80> EtteSB: The syntax is alias <newName>='<old command set>'
[01:36] <tonyyarusso> ramza3: Uh, because it has no reason to be?
[01:36] <Cpudan80> EtteSB: Example :: alias ..='cd ..'
[01:37] <joe_sae> its basically on edubuntu..and we sort have this double nat setup going on....but it works...and works well.
[01:37] <ramza3> tonnyarusso: well, you might as well get rid of Apache
[01:37] <Perdente> tarvid, yeah, I wish I knew how drivers worked a little better...
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> ramza3: Apache's not default either.
[01:37] <EtteSB> cpudan80: so would "alias wsw='cd /home/scott/Documents/DLs/warsow_0.4_unified | ./warsow.i386" work?
[01:37] <Perdente> tarvid, can you fix a driver from inside of ubuntu or do you have to write code to fix drivers?
[01:37] <ramza3> tonyyarusso, oh, sorry, nothing to see here
[01:37] <tarvid> Perdente, the scope of things I don't know expands much faster than the smaller domain that I do know
[01:38] <venger> anyway to add items to the right click menu (when right clicking on desktop) ?
[01:38] <Cpudan80> EtteSB: You need a closing ' after .i386 - but yeah
[01:38] <Darkmystere> Can some 1 help me after installing windows xp pro i cant boot into Ubuntu anymore is there a way to fix it?
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> !grub | Darkmystere
[01:38] <ubotu> Darkmystere: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:38] <StereoMC> :P
[01:38] <EtteSB> cpudan80: ahh, thats what i missed
[01:38] <Darkmystere> lol >.> I like killed Grub lol
[01:38] <soldats> !dualboot > Darkmystere please refer to this for dual boot instructions
[01:38] <tarvid> Perdente, sometimes you can find a thread - launchpad sometimes works, the madwifi thread was on BSD, search launchpad and see if any bugs have been reported.
[01:38] <Cpudan80> Is that a factoid?
[01:39] <tarvid> If not post one.
[01:39] <Cpudan80> !killedgrub
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about killedgrub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <Cpudan80> Nope
[01:39] <Darkmystere> soldats: Ive had it dual booted before but i had to reinstall windows because it was virus ridden
[01:39] <EtteSB> cpudan80: thanks :3
[01:39] <StereoMC> so...whassup people ?
[01:39] <soldats> Darkmystere, ahh
[01:39] <Cpudan80> EtteSB: np
[01:39] <Perdente> tarvid, sounds good, thanks for all the advice!  I'm off to get Hardy and then search around the interwebs for info, have fun!
[01:39] <tarvid> Perdente, wish you well
[01:39] <Darkmystere> soldats: Annoying i Know and also i wanted to cut off 10GB off windows partion and i did but got lost in Gparted..
[01:40] <Creed> How do I mount everything in the fstab on-demand rather than on boot? mount -o?
[01:40] <Darkmystere> Dunno how to add to partions
[01:40] <raj_> i installed 96xx driver on my toshiba m10 laptop and now i cant see anything on my screen ... it sis the correct driver but i cant see anything on my screen .. i tried to change the resolution on my desktop using the termina root > video .. no luck ANY HELP would be appreciated
[01:40] <Perdente> thnx
[01:40] <EtteSB> creed: just mount isn't it?
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> Creed: add noauto to the options in fstab
[01:40] <StereoMC> dude... thats boring :P
[01:40] <TJjj> hey i need some kelp with my ssh server. I installed ssh-server and changed my port to something in the 6000's then i opened the port on my router. it still will not let me ssh into it from my other computer
[01:41] <EtteSB> creed "mount -a"
[01:41] <Creed> EtteSB / tonyyarusso I have 4 options, -o -f -u and -a. (its a lab assignment)
[01:41] <agentmarmite> anyone here know about installing Creative XFi drivers?
[01:41] <joe_sae> all right guys brb...a little more ltsping...
[01:41] <Creed> EtteSB, Ah thanks :) Couldnt find it in my book.
[01:41] <EtteSB> creed: mount --help (have a look :3)
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> Creed: Uh, check the man and see what sounds most like what your prof is asking for.
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> raj_: What happened when you typed sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ?
[01:42] <TJjj> hey i need some kelp with my ssh server. I installed ssh-server and changed my port to something in the 6000's then i opened the port on my router. it still will not let me ssh into it from my other computer
[01:42] <Creed> EtteSB, lol My virtual install has been *trying* to start for the past hour so I could look it up...Think I'll just boot a livecd and work off that.
[01:42] <tonyyarusso> TJjj: Are you indicating that port in your connection attempt?
[01:42] <EtteSB> creed: ouch :S
[01:42] <andresj> What packages should I install to have the minimum in order to be able to change GTK+/Gnome themes? (I use Kubuntu)
[01:42] <genii> TJjj: You ned to specify the new port from the client also
[01:42] <soldats> Jack_Sparrow, that only does a manual reconfigure. tell him to do it with -phigh
[01:42] <TJjj> yes
[01:42] <raj_> jack_sparrow nothing
[01:42] <hahahan> TJjj: areboth machines on the same port?
[01:43] <lynx``> Is there a ubuntu live for ppc?
[01:43] <TJjj> im using putty, and in putty i put in the my IP addrtess and the port im using
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> lynx``: Yes.
[01:43] <zakke> hmm, i installed wine and tested WoW, It's working ok till i'm inlogged, i cant see the ground and myself etc, just some random houses and maybe some player... does somebody know what the problem can be?
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> soldats: Feel free to help him.. he obviously didnt read the page for !res...
[01:43] <TJjj> both machines are on the same network
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> lynx``: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.10/release/
[01:44] <lynx``> Does anybody know if it includes airport drivers?
[01:44] <genii> TJjj: On the server are you able to: ssh -p 6000 localhost             ?
[01:44] <Rhyolite> how can I install a package that wants me to insert the DVD if I do not have access to the DVD?  Can I force apt-get to install the package from the repository on the Net?
[01:44] <crwlr> none of these configurations are working for my dual monitors...
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !dualhead
[01:44] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[01:44] <soldats> Jack_Sparrow, yea i know how you feel. happened to me before. i tried but he was only responding to you :D im glad you were helping
[01:45] <Darkmystere> Well brb i think
[01:45] <tonyyarusso> Rhyolite: Remove the disc from your software sources.
[01:45] <TJjj> im sorry this is my second day with linux so i dont really understand what you are asking
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> soldats: When they show no interest in helping themselves, it makes it harder to put out the effort to help them when so many others can use my time
[01:45] <TJjj> i typed that in and it allowed me too i think...
[01:45] <RyanPrior> I need help getting my graphics card to recognize direct rendering. It has done so before, but lately fglrx reports that direct rendering is not available.
[01:46] <TJjj> since im on the same network, do i need to use the network IP address?
[01:46] <genii> TJjj: Wehen you are at the computer which is running the openssh-server. And in Terminal you type in: ssh -p 6000 localhost              does it connect? (6000 will be the port you changed openssh-server to run on there of course)
[01:47] <Darkmystere> brb..
[01:47] <soldats> Jack_Sparrow, so true. i totally understand. no worries :) i enjoy seeing your kowledge put to good use
[01:47] <Darkmystere> hopefully
[01:47] <lynx``> Does anybody know if the PPC version of ubuntu live has airport usability
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> RyanPrior: What does fglrxinfo  from cli show you
[01:47]  * Nikki85 is away: Gone away for now.
[01:47] <zakke> hmm, i installed wine and tested WoW, It's working ok till i'm inlogged, i cant see the ground and myself etc, just some random houses and maybe some player... does somebody know what the problem can be?
[01:47] <TJjj> since im on the same network, do i need to use the network IP address?
[01:48] <TJjj> it looks like it connects
[01:48] <genii> sigh
[01:48] <k1gwb> I have a guest account on my laptop that is used by about 10 other people, I want it to revert the entire guest home directory to a preconfigured state on or after each login. What's the best way to do that? I know I can make a script that tars the directory and another to untar it but how do I make it run and when is ideal?
[01:48] <RyanPrior> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/53103/
[01:49] <Creed> Whats the command to edit certain users quota?
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> RyanPrior: Which ATI card is it?
[01:49] <Rhyolite> tonyyarusso: thanks
[01:49] <RyanPrior> Jack_Sparrow: ryan@ryan-laptop:~$ lspci | grep Radeon --> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[01:50] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: are you still here?
[01:50] <Clay_The_Arc> any1 here familiar with nessus?
[01:50] <genii> TJjj: OK, if it works from the server to ssh into itself locally, then openssh-server indicates it is operating correctly. So check again your port forwarding setup in the router. Also make sure you are not trying to ssh in to an IP address of the machine which has been changed if it uses dhcp.
[01:50] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: yes?
[01:50] <nickrud> RyanPrior:  does   lsmod | grep fgrlx  show it's loaded?
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> RyanPrior: And you have always used fglrx?
[01:51] <TJjj> thank you, i will try that
[01:51] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: I don't think I want to use XDMCP, most tutorials say its insecure and to use ssh
[01:51] <RyanPrior> Jack_Sparrow: as far as I know, yes. I have always used whatever the restricted manager provided.
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> RyanPrior: What is the exact problem you are having?
[01:51] <Clay_The_Arc> any1 here familiar with registering nessus? i used the command in the email and it said path not found
[01:51] <RB2> Is there a reason that items do not show up in Synaptic, but can be retrieved with apt-get?
[01:52] <RyanPrior> nickrud: lsmod doesn't show any lines associated with fglrx
[01:52] <joe__sae> hey...guys i have question about locking down the desktop background from being changed for a user....how do I do that?
[01:52] <RyanPrior> Jack_Sparrow: I very poor 3D performance and glxinfo reports that direct rendering is not enabled, whereas in the past direct rendering has worked and I've gotten better 3D performance.
[01:52] <nickrud> RyanPrior: try  sudo modprobe fgrlx  , the log out and back in. I've had problems occasionally with the fglrx module not getting loaded.
[01:52] <joe__sae> specifically..I have a user logining in via ltsp..but I want to lock down their ability to change the desktop background.
[01:53] <nickrud> RyanPrior: also, if you did the kernel upgrade recently, you might not have linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) installed
[01:53] <RyanPrior> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks for being helpful, I'll be back if Nickrud's suggestion doesn't work.
[01:53] <bullgard4> RB2: The range of functions of apt-get is larger than that of Synaptic.
[01:53] <RyanPrior> nickrud: I get this error from modprobe: Not loading fglrx module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:53] <lynx``> Can ubuntu read/write HFS?
[01:53] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: been looking over your notes, they look like they are gonna be the complete bomb
[01:54] <crwlr> does anybody here actually have TwinView setup?  i don't want any wikis, I just want to know if anybody is successful with TwinView
[01:54] <RB2> bullgard4, ok, I was just checking. I assumed if it was in the repo list, that synaptic would see it
[01:54] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: That part is required, get a firewall and lock out hits on the VNC port
[01:54] <nickrud> RyanPrior: then you are using the ati driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf , edit it from Driver "ati"  to Driver "fglrx"
[01:54] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: I have my computer only accept hits on port 22
[01:55] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: ok
[01:55] <RyanPrior> nickrud: I don't see any video driver line at all in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:55] <bullgard4> RB2: Be more specific. What do you mean by 'it'?
[01:55] <tcpdumpgod> Anyone have their Windows based Smartphones syncing with Ubuntu by chance?
[01:55] <RyanPrior> nickrud: I think I need to add a new section. Something must have wiped out my configuration.
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: Thanks.. I am trying to pull more of it together and be finished with the Ubuntu-ATI side of things
[01:56] <nickrud> RyanPrior: wow.  Sounds like it.   run sudo-dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ,  accept the defaults for just about everything, and select fglrx for the driver
[01:56] <RB2> bullgard4, I was referring to the packages in the repositories, no specific one.
[01:57] <Clay_The_Arc> any1 here familiar with using nessus?
[01:57] <RyanPrior> nickrud: Should I use the kernel framebuffer interface?
[01:57] <kyleBAKED> can someone please help me, I am looking for the package gstreamer0.10-faad. it is not in my repos and i cannot find a download source anywhere else. i know it exists though
[01:57] <nickrud> RyanPrior: whatever the default is
[01:58] <penars> what's a good fast terminal? i'm using the default that came with xubuntu but it's slow
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: Would you mind testing this bash script for me...  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53104/
[01:58] <AaronMT> Is anyone using Ubuntu on an Dell Inspiron 1501 laptop?
[01:58] <bmk789> is there a good gnome file manager other than nautilus?
[01:58] <Dr_willis> penars, you mean the konsole/xterm/gnome-terminal type terminal?  if thats slow.. well.. You got either a slow system.. or some serious issues going on.
[01:59] <Dr_willis> bmk789,  theres several '2 pane' file managers out.  depends on your needs.
[01:59] <bmk789> Dr_willis: is there a list somewhere?
[01:59] <Dr_willis> penars,  rxvt would probery be the fastest/lightest xterm terminal
[01:59] <Dr_willis> !info gentoo
[01:59] <ubotu> gentoo (source: gentoo): a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.55-1.1 (gutsy), package size 764 kB, installed size 2432 kB
[01:59] <sexymikey> im new to ubuntu and i am havin problems wit my videocard can anyone help me out its really gettin frustrating
[01:59] <luckyone> can anyone help me bridge eth0 to ath0 which is connected to my wifi network
[01:59] <Dr_willis> bmk789,  do a apt-cache serch filemanager   perhaps :)
[01:59] <RyanPrior> nickrud: there was no option to include fglrx during that process, and I got this output after it was done: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration (newline) file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080122195852
[01:59] <bmk789> ok
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> sexymikey: What type of video card
[02:00] <kyleBAKED> !info gstreamer
[02:00] <ubotu> Package gstreamer does not exist in gutsy
[02:00] <Dr_willis> There used to be a 'file managers for X' web siute that had a summary of them all.. but not seen that in ages.
[02:00] <sexymikey> geforce 6600 gt
[02:00] <kyleBAKED> !info gstreamer0.10-faad
[02:00] <ubotu> Package gstreamer0.10-faad does not exist in gutsy
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> sexymikey: I run a 6600, what is the problem
[02:00] <TJjjj> hey. my ssh server still will not work when i try ssh into it from another computer.. the ports are open on my router and the IP address is correct... what else could it be?
[02:00] <Alyxander> guys, I have an evolution question. Is it possible to group by thread also showing my messages to who ever?
[02:01] <Alyxander> kind of like a message board style so i can see the entire conversation
[02:01] <luckyone> Alyxander: View > Group By Thread
[02:01] <zakke> hmm, i installed wine and tested WoW, It's working ok till i'm inlogged, i cant see the ground and myself etc, just some random houses and maybe some player... does somebody know what the problem can be?
[02:01] <nickrud> RyanPrior: ok, that message was just a notice that a backup was being made.  install    linux-image-generic , it should pull in linux-restricted-modules
[02:01] <Alyxander> right I got that far. But it doesnt sho my replies
[02:02] <Alyxander> luckyone:
[02:02] <sexymikey> when i install the nvidia drivers as soon as the login screen comes up after it loads its just black but the vesa drivers and nv drivers work they just look shitty i tried the drivers off of the nvidia site and the glx
[02:02] <nickrud> RyanPrior: also install   xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> zakke: You will have better luck asking that in #Winehq
[02:02] <zakke> Jack_Sparrow: Thank you
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: You HAVE been reading my notes...
[02:02] <RyanPrior> nickrud: Both those are already at their latest versions.
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> RyanPrior: from our repos or from outside official repos
[02:03] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: it pulls in a lot of stuff, you are right about putting it in one file as much as possible. (and I already knew that stuff, I assumed it was why you wanted me to look ;)
[02:03] <RyanPrior> Jack_Sparrow: I have main, universe, and multiverse enabled. Plus the winehq repo, but that should have nothing to do with this.
[02:04] <ploom> kudos ubuntu-people!
[02:04] <nickrud> RyanPrior: put your xorg.conf on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , along with the output of   dpkg -l '*fglrx*'
[02:04] <sexymikey> Jack_Sparrow do you know that that could be?
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: stuff we knew but in one place...  just split for the two card catagories fglrx and aiglx
[02:05] <Cpudan80> So about my Thinkpad with ubuntu --- anyone have a thinkpad running ubuntu?
[02:05] <Cpudan80> I've got a problem with the sound card
[02:05] <chimp> My housemate does cpudan
[02:05] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: no there's a lot of stuff I didn't know in there, I'm still learning from it and checking refs. I'm going to spend some more time on it tonight
[02:05] <grekkos> Cpudan80: me too what's your problem?
[02:05] <kyleBAKED> does anyone know how to get .m4a files to play with rhythmbox?
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> sexymikey: If you installed the drivers from our repo and got a black screen, you should have then only needed to reconfigure xserver xorg...  but with everything else you tried.. you may need to start from the basics..
[02:06] <ramza3> how do I add a sudo user.  I want to do it by name, I cant edit the /etc/sudoers file
[02:06] <Cpudan80> grekkos: Well everything works -- but the volume control buttons on the laptop seem to control some other volume from the regular software volume mixer
[02:06] <kyleBAKED> gst-inspect-0.10 | grep faad gives me the following -> faad: AAC audio decoder.
[02:06] <crwlr> kyleBAKED: prolly have to install codecs for it from the add/remove > sound
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: Run that script, I think you will see where I am going with it.
[02:06] <nickrud> Cpudan80: for the thinkpads http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki is the bomb
[02:06] <poli> I have a gutsy box inside a VMWare. All was fine when I just installed it and before the first update. After the update, everytime I try to access a DVD VMWare tells me "Your virtual machine has sent an ATAPI (CD-ROM) command that is supported only when programming the drive via DMA. You will need to confogire your guest operating system to use DMA" and I am unable to play a DVD. I tried hdparm but not good. Any ideas?
[02:06] <RyanPrior> nickrud: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/53107/ and http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/53106/
[02:06] <Flannel> ramza3: you want to do it on the command line?
[02:06] <Alyxander> anyone have any ideas as to how to view bot sent and received messages in evolution in the same window. Like in a thread that has both parts of the conversation?
[02:06] <ramza3> Flannel, yea, no xwindows
[02:06] <Cpudan80> grekkos: Basically, I am looking for a way to mute/unmute the internal speakers via some command
[02:06] <Flannel> ramza3: sudo usermod -G admin -a username
[02:06] <grekkos> Cpudan80: oh I'm not sure about that... my sound problem is a bit different
[02:07] <ploom> ramza3, go for manual page of sudoers
[02:07] <RyanPrior> !m4a | kyleBAKED
[02:07] <ubotu> kyleBAKED: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:07] <Flannel> ramza3: all you have to do is add them to the admin group, no mucking around in sudoers
[02:07] <nickrud> RyanPrior: there's something seriously wrong with that, you should have some wacom stuff there at the least.  run   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg , and pastebin that
[02:07] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: I have, I got a _lot_ of files in that dir
[02:08] <Eyemean> hi i was thinking of getting 4 gig ram installed, wil gutsy recognise the full 4 gig?
[02:08] <grekkos> Cpudan80: you can try what I'm doing though, I'm buildin the latest kernel from source, but I'm not even sure if that will help me
[02:08] <ploom> Eyemean, why dont you just try it yourself?
[02:08] <sexymikey> Jack_Sparrow ok so if i get the glx from the repo and then what do i have to reconfigure in the xorg cause i tryin reconfigurein as well several times unless im missing something
[02:09] <Eyemean> ploom, i said i was thinking of getting, i havent purchased it yet
[02:09] <Darkmystere> Can Some 1 help me I got lost in GParted idk how to Extend a Ubuntu partion ive gotten 10GB off my windows partion but dont know how to add it to Ubuntu
[02:09] <Cpudan80> grekkos: lol that sounds like a bit of overkill
[02:09] <|chiz|_> I'm having trouble getting suspend to work in Gutsy, I think it has something to do with fglrx but I can't seem to figure it out.  Anyone farmilliar with this one?
[02:09] <RyanPrior> nickrud: when I run that command, all that happens is: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuratio file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080122200852
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> sexymikey: Pastebin your xorg for me please
[02:09] <nickrud> RyanPrior: yes, it creates an xorg.conf without asking questions
[02:10] <RyanPrior> nickrud: Ah. So, you want the new xorg.conf?
[02:10] <crwlr> eyemean: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-471721.html
[02:10] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: you have some duplicate info there, the lspci covers the stuff in the nvidia and ati files, for example
[02:11] <nickrud> RyanPrior: yes
[02:11] <Darkmystere> nickrud:Err Is there a guide to extending a Ubuntu partion with GParted?
[02:11] <RyanPrior> nickrud: latest xorg.conf at http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/53108/
[02:11] <Darkmystere> I have a 10GB partion lying around that i want to add to Ubuntu But the wording of gparted is confusing >.>
[02:11] <ploom> Eyemean, I would be interested if someone donates some ram. Any time.
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: agreed...  I kept adding everying I could find.. add anything you can think of as well.
[02:11] <nickrud> Darkmystere: not that I know of. I haven't needed to find one. But the general rule is you can move the end of an ext3 partition, not the end the last time I checked
[02:11] <sexymikey> Jack Sparrow: paste the whole thing into here?
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin
[02:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:12] <ploom> Eyemean, there are so many different producers of ram that by me - in case ubuntu cant use it, its not ubuntu's fault, but an hardware issue
[02:12] <Darkmystere> nickrud: Huh not the end the?
[02:12] <hjhfi__> yo do you take shower/shave at night or morning?
[02:12] <Eyemean> ploom, ram is kinda cheap these ddays
[02:12] <RyanPrior> !ot | hjhfi__
[02:12] <ubotu> hjhfi__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:12] <ploom> Eyemean, and you can detect any ram errors with MemTest
[02:12] <Darkmystere> Well is there a way to make my Ubuntu partion Bigger will lvpm Work?
[02:13] <Flannel> !afk > ajmorris|AFK
[02:13] <Darkmystere> i thought it was just for Wubi but could it work with a Dedicated partion?
[02:13] <nickrud> Darkmystere: heh. not the beginning :)
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> ploom: I did cartwheels the day ram fell below $100 a meg...
[02:13] <Griz|Chembook>  
[02:13] <hjhfi__> petition to ban RyanPrior
[02:13] <ploom> dear Eyemean - good ram is not cheap at all - good old edoram days are over pretty much forever
[02:13] <Eyemean> ploom, i've been looking to build a pc for first time, so wanted to know wat maximum ram ubuntu and windows would see, that why i asked
[02:14] <sexymikey> Jack Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53109/
[02:14] <Darkmystere> nickrud: oh ok i was like  hmm you can add to the end but not to the..
[02:14] <ramza3> I reinstalled my os, I need to ssh into it, is there a way to refresh the .ssh/known_hosts file
[02:14] <Darkmystere> lol
[02:14] <passbe> how do i create a .log file under /var/log/ that procmail / fetchmail can access ?
[02:14] <Griz|Chembook> Hey Channel. Just built ubuntu server and i'm NOT finding webmin in the available packages. Is this a known issue??
[02:14] <iBA86> my install failed, and it went back to windows. is the system rescue cd the only way around it?
[02:14] <grekkos> Cpudan80: hey what do you know i fixed the problem the plug was hanging half-out ^^;
[02:14] <ploom> Eyemean, I cant remember, for 64 bit machines - the max amount - its enough
[02:14] <crwlr> hjhfi__: I think you need to rethink why you are asking those questions in a support room.
[02:14] <Cpudan80> grekkos: ha
[02:14] <grekkos> Cpudan80: what was your problem again?
[02:14] <ploom> and even for 32 bit ones - its just max per process to address
[02:15] <prometoys> hi, gutsy didnt boot from my raid1 with crypt and luks and a lvm . is it possible to do a setup like this??
[02:15] <Flannel> Griz|Chembook: webmin hasn't been in Ubuntu in... a long time
[02:15] <ploom> Eyemean, IMHO its the motherboard (mem chipset on it) that sets the limit
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !webmin
[02:15] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[02:15] <prometoys> my raid1 is with mdadm and a software-raid
[02:15] <hjhfi__> petition to ban <crwlr>
[02:15] <joni> !ebox
[02:15] <grekkos> no we do this
[02:15] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[02:15] <grekkos> !ebox
[02:15] <Eyemean> ploom, someone tole me 32bit windowns, max u see is just over 3 gig, OCZ 4GB Kit (2xGB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 Memory is £70
[02:15] <grekkos> lol
[02:16] <Eyemean> but im not sure if thats wat u would call good ram though ploom
[02:16] <crwlr> hjhfi__: not even gonna fight it with you.  if i were op, u'd be out the door.
[02:16] <Darkmystere> Will Lvpm Work?
[02:16] <Griz|Chembook> Flannel, is there another package replacing it?
[02:16] <nickrud> RyanPrior: that is very odd, it not creating the default xorg.conf.   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53110/  is mine, for a express 200. You can't use this one directly, because it has some custom stuff for the latest ati, but I'm wondering why you don't have the wacom stuff
[02:16] <ploom> Eyemean, edoram needs no constant refreshing in order to keep things remembered
[02:16] <Flannel> Griz|Chembook: believe the factoid said ebox, see !ebox
[02:17] <zenwhen> !help
[02:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:17] <ploom> Eyemean, and your right - depends on POV
[02:17] <hjhfi__> stop bannin gme
[02:17] <RyanPrior> nickrud: It's definitely weird. Something must have changed to screw things up on a pretty fundamental level, hey?
[02:17] <zenwhen> !op
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[02:17] <AaronMT> !ubotu inspiron
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inspiron - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <hjhfi__> NO
[02:17] <nickrud> RyanPrior: it's hard to believe that the configurator has changed that much
[02:18] <hjhfi__> ey
[02:18] <hjhfi__> why?
[02:18] <Griz|Chembook> Flannel, cp the ebox. installing it now to check it and THANK YOU!
[02:18] <passbe> can anyone help me setup 2 log files please ?
[02:18] <Eyemean> ploom, pov? sorry my knowledge is kind alimited, lol
[02:18] <hjhfi__> ...
[02:18] <ploom> Eyemean, Point of view
[02:18] <Flannel> hjhfi__: You're welcome to talk in #ubuntu-offtopic, but please keep #ubuntu to support only.  Thanks
[02:19] <sexymikey> Jack Sparrow: Any Ideas?
[02:19] <ploom> Eyemean, I googled out also http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.development.system/2004-08/0040.html
[02:19] <Eyemean> ploom, LOL
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> sexymikey: Hold for a sec...
[02:19] <RyanPrior> nickrud: Should I file a bug, or try reinstalling some packages, or waht? Any suggestion as to where to go from here would be welcome.
[02:19] <thedjatclubrock> Can someone help me, I am at the language selection screen of the install app, I picked english and now???
[02:20] <RyanPrior> thedjatclubrock: It should continue on with the installation. If you're on an old machine, it may take awhile for the next screen to come up.
[02:20] <nickrud> RyanPrior: I'm wondering why you don't even get a serverlayout ....  Are you running hardy? or have any hardy sources?
[02:20] <thedjatclubrock> RyanPrior: How long?
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> RyanPrior: Did you post your xorg for me?
[02:20] <RyanPrior> thedjatclubrock: Completely depends on the hardware. A friend and I tried installing xubuntu graphically on an old laptop with 64mb of RAM and each screen was taking an hour and a half to load, so we used the text-mode installer instead.
[02:21] <|chiz|_> thedjatclubrock: I'm assuming you tried to click next a few times
[02:21] <Eyemean> ploom, oh well so its just about 3 gig then, thats cool for now
[02:21] <RyanPrior> Jack_Sparrow: I did. The latest xorg is here: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/53108/
[02:21] <thedjatclubrock> |chiz|_: :P No, I don't see next.
[02:21] <RyanPrior> nickrud: I am running the Hardy kernel and some supporting packages.
[02:21] <|chiz|_> thedjatclubrock: what is your resolution?
[02:22] <nickrud> RyanPrior: ok, you best be asking this on #ubuntu+1 . I have a feeling that is your issue
[02:22] <thedjatclubrock> |chiz|_: IDK, I am new to Linux, How can I find out?
[02:22] <crwlr> !twinview
[02:22] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[02:22] <RyanPrior> nickrud: Just upgrading to those packages didn't break the 3D support immediately, though. It happened awhile afterwards.
[02:22] <crwlr> !dualhead
[02:22] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[02:22] <RyanPrior> nickrud: I will ask in #ubuntu+1 and see if they have some Hardy-specific advice though.
[02:22] <nickrud> RyanPrior: did you pin, or do some other thing that would ensure you don't get anything else from hardy?
[02:22] <ploom> Eyemean, you could enter "Memory management in Linux" into google and read about it
[02:23] <Darkmystere> Does anyone know if LVPM Will work to Resize my Ubuntu partion?
[02:23] <|chiz|_> thedjatclubrock: I'm not even too sure on the one, if you hit crtl+n that might get you to the next screen
[02:23] <Eyemean> cool will do ploom, cheers
[02:23] <crwlr> this is a nasty tater...dual lcds...anybody running twinview, dualhead or xinerama?
[02:23] <|chiz|_> thedjatclubrock: assuming that your resolution is just too small to see that part of the screen
[02:23] <Dr_willis> If using twinview. you dont want to enable xinerama
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> RyanPrior: It should look more like mine..   http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/53112/
[02:23] <thedjatclubrock> |chiz|_: It is working, I can hear it
[02:23] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: he has some packages from hardy ...
[02:23] <|chiz|_> thedjatclubrock: good stuff
[02:23] <RyanPrior> Jack_Sparrow: I know, but it's way more minimal than that.
[02:23] <thedjatclubrock> RyanPrior: Is the text-based on the normal CD
[02:24] <crwlr> dr_willis: i realize this, but i have tried them all with a fresh install each time and nothing has worked.
[02:24] <RyanPrior> thedjatclubrock: As far as I know, you need the Alternate Install CD to use the text-mode installer.
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> RyanPrior: Stuck going into +1..
[02:24] <nickrud> RyanPrior: that xorg.conf would make sense with a later version of xorg, it's supposed to autoconfigure a lot more
[02:24]  * thedjatclubrock says Oh noes
[02:24] <Dr_willis> crwlr,  No idea what you are tring to do exactly. On my dual moniotopr system with a nvidia 8800 card. I enable the nvidia drivers. then run the nvidia config tool to enable the 2 displays
[02:24] <ploom> Eyemean, and remember that mail archive is since year 2004 - nowadays modern computers are 64bit
[02:25] <RyanPrior> nickrud: Perhaps that's what I've got, then.
[02:25]  * nickrud envies Dr_willis 
[02:25] <steveny> Hi:) does someone have a spare minute to look at my USB problem...the ports aren't working....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53111/
[02:25] <crwlr> dr_willis: i have an nvidia 6600 trying to do the same thing.  where's you get the nvidia config tool?
[02:25] <crwlr> where'd*
[02:25] <Dr_willis> crwlr,  type nvid<tab> :)
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !find nvidia-settings
[02:25] <RyanPrior> nickrud: What do I do if the newer xorg were configuring it wrong?
[02:25] <ubotu> Found: nvidia-settings
[02:25] <Eyemean> ploom, yeah im looking to get e2140 but wasnt sure about get 64 bit operating system or sticking to 32bit
[02:25] <Dr_willis> nvidia-settings  and nvidia-xconfig
[02:26] <InGunsWeTrust> does anybody know of a good tutorial for installing dotproject on ubuntu gutsy
[02:26] <thedjatclubrock> RyanPrior: How do I know if it is working, and not frozen
[02:26] <nickrud> RyanPrior: talk to the dudes on #ubuntu+1. If you added those repos, you're at +1 or at least a bastardized mix
[02:26] <crwlr> thx, dr_willis.  i am doing a fresh install now, so i will give that a shot.  maybe you solved my problem.  if you did, then ur a god in my book
[02:26] <|chiz|_> does anyone know what command gutsy uses to suspend to ram?
[02:27] <Caplain> does the ubuntu livecd have sambafs?
[02:27] <ploom> Eyemean, why not AMD?
[02:27] <Dr_willis> crwlr,  fresh install? why do you need to do that.
[02:27] <prometoys> can somebody help me with raid+crypted lvm?
[02:27] <RyanPrior> thedjatclubrock: That can be hard to tell.
[02:27] <unop> Caplain, yes
[02:27] <Caplain> thanks
[02:27] <sexymikey> i need help with a video card problem anyone got a sec???
[02:28] <Eyemean> ploom, for one thing this e2140 can be easily overclocked to 3GHz
[02:28] <crwlr> dr_willis: because i change stuff and just feel like a clean install would do fine.  only takes me 10 mins
[02:28] <poli> prometoys: I can try. Tell me what's your problem.
[02:28] <prometoys> ..thanks poli
[02:28] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: what is your problem?
[02:28] <prometoys> i installed gutsy
[02:28] <Eyemean> ploom, i've got amd now so now that im upgrading i wanted to try intel
[02:28] <InGunsWeTrust> does anybody know of a good tutorial for installing dotproject on ubuntu gutsy
[02:28] <prometoys> its a software raid managed by mdadm. in the raid1 is crypted partition with lvm
[02:28] <ploom> Eyemean, ok, all the best
[02:29] <Eyemean> cheers ploom
[02:29] <ploom> Eyemean, one last link: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000811.html
[02:29] <prometoys> poli: installation was no problem, but during boot the raid partition isnt decrypted
[02:29] <sexymikey> chiz: i am running a geforce 6600 gt in fiesty and when i try to install the nvidia drivers and i resart after it loads it just goes black at the login screen
[02:30] <prometoys> poli: i can decrypt it manually from busybox, but how it ask me automatically to decrypt the partition?
[02:30] <BananaMon> Hi guys
[02:30] <poli> prometoys: busybox? are you running that from the liveCD or something?
[02:30] <craigbass1976>  sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.26/SharedDocs /mnt  Can anyone see an error in this command?
[02:30] <Caplain> sexymikey: ...someone with that nick? sure
[02:30] <BananaMon> I needed some help with ubuntu, I had heard this is the right place....
[02:30] <prometoys> no, because during boot it couldn find / (its inside the crypted lvm) it jumps to busybox
[02:31] <craigbass1976> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock....
[02:31] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: sorry dude, I thought that you were going to ask about the fglrx driver.  You could try a new xorg.conf by running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:31] <BananaMon> I guess I'll go after thye current issue is resolved
[02:31] <prometoys> poli: i am not a irc pro.. did you see my answer?
[02:31] <Darkmystere> What program can i use Besides GParted To Entend my Ubuntu install?
[02:31] <poli> prometoys: hm that's a problem. You need initrd to do the encrypted mount for you
[02:31] <robdig> BananaMon: go ahead and ask your question...if someone knows they'll probablby answer
[02:31] <prometoys> poli: great, but how :D
[02:31] <craigbass1976> I have the newest version of smbclient installed.  I know fedora now uses cifs, but I though debian/Ubuntu still used smbfs to mount up windows shares
[02:32] <golem_> let's discuss heath ledger's untimely passing
[02:32] <poli> prometoys: yes I did. just put my nick in front of your reply and it gets pretty yellow when you talk to me
[02:32] <BananaMon> lol....I was just discussing that with a friend....anyway...
[02:32] <sexymikey> chiz i tryed reconfiguring but the only way it will work is with the vesa or nv driver not the nvidia
[02:32] <prometoys> poli: i try to remember this, its really fast here :D
[02:32] <nemilar> I just woke up from a nap, and I swear I was coding python in my sleep.
[02:32] <golem_> sleeping pills? pls.
[02:32] <thedjatclubrock> From #freenode --> <hjhfi__> unfar ban in all of Ubuntu channels requesting a sue. Ubuntu sucks
[02:33] <poli> prometoys: when you install Ubuntu from the alternate CD (I suppose from the server CD also) it will give you the option to get a full disk encrypted LVM, if you chose that option, the installer will do all the necessary steps for you
[02:33] <hever_> Where can I read what PC configuration I need to run ubuntu ?
[02:33] <BananaMon> my ubuntu is stuck in a weird mode....everytime I try to log in, all I see is a black screen, but with my pidgin window and cursor intact
[02:33] <hever_> How muc RAM do I need ?
[02:33] <BananaMon> I can use the pidgin and cursor fine, but nothing else
[02:34] <ThreeFingerPete> hello. how do I correct my tty1 keyboard settings? i have my WM settings correct, but tty1 isnt.. i have no / key!
[02:34] <golem_> pubuntu?
[02:34] <prometoys> poli: i didnt use this option, because i want also a software raid and some space for.. you know win...
[02:34] <poli> BananaMon: in the upper left part of the screen?
[02:34] <BananaMon> I can't log into the failsafe gnome....same thing occurs there but with the human theme instead.....
[02:34] <BananaMon> poli: It just shows up regularly....it's a regular window
[02:34] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: did you install a new kernel since installing the nvidia driver (doesn't explain why nv doesn't work but...)
[02:34] <craigbass1976> Duh... must install smbfs first...
[02:34] <craigbass1976> Someone slap me
[02:35] <poli> prometoys: did you try this option? I imagine it will give you the option to configure the parameters yourself.
[02:35] <poli> prometoys: It is, in my opinion, the easiest way of getting what you want working fine.
[02:35] <sexymikey> chiz no its a fresh install ive tryed 2 fresh installs already ive been workin on this since 9 this morning lol
[02:35] <prometoys> poli: i have a debian etch server with crypted lvm, but couldnt find something useful, expect /etc/crypttab
[02:36] <htns> What's a good newsreader for ubuntu?
[02:36] <poli> prometoys: if you have your root (/) file system encrypted, you will need something "special" in your initrd file to be able to mount it as root.
[02:36] <prometoys> poli: no, i didnt try it. i have a complete installed ubuntu, so i would prefer to fix it
[02:36] <ploom> ThreeFingerPete, I would be interested in the solution too once you find it. The best I can google is http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/keymap.html
[02:36] <poli> htns: rss? thunderbird.
[02:36] <ploom> ThreeFingerPete, but there has to be some nice "debian" or "ubuntu" way
[02:36] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: hmmmm.....
[02:36] <htns> poli: not rss, like usenet.
[02:37] <Eyemean> ploo its suggested to just tick with 3gig for now
[02:37] <htns> I need to connect to a newsgroup server
[02:37] <Eyemean> ploom
[02:37] <htns> Like outlook express does
[02:37] <ploom> Eyemean, yes?
[02:37] <BananaMon> any ideas? I can't access/use anything there...I have had to revert Vista, which totally sucks
[02:37] <Eyemean> ploom, thats a very intresting read still reading though
[02:37] <prometoys> poli: right.. so my initrd-image is messed up.. mhh another question: how can i activate the lvm, after i decrypted it manually?
[02:37] <poli> prometoys: you will have to generate a new initrd with support for what you want.
[02:37] <ploom> Eyemean, was for mee to - nice to remember things
[02:38] <poli> prometoys: that should also be done in the initrd, considering your root partition is there.
[02:38] <Eyemean> ploom,, only problem is 64bit drivers arent really out there, hahah
[02:38] <sexymikey> Chiz: i tryed the glx drivers i tryed the ones off of nvidias site and i tryed a scripy called envy and all of themdo the same thing no problems installin its only after i restart
[02:38] <poli> prometoys: I have only the slightest idea of how do to that, but initrd used to be VERY DAMN HARD to do last time I did it.
[02:39] <ploom> Eyemean, thats Vistas problem more - I have one 64 bit linux machine up and running with no driver problems any more
[02:39] <prometoys> poli: thank you for your help. i will try to find out, how to solve this... now i have a direction
[02:39] <Darkmystere> is there a guide to Using Gparted to Add room to a Ubuntu dedicated partion
[02:39] <poli> prometoys: debian/ubuntu way may have made that somewhat easier these days, I can't tell.
[02:39] <prometoys> poli: good night/day/morning :D
[02:39] <poli> prometoys: good luck
[02:39] <Eyemean> oh well life is life, i would only be saying about £25 ploom, so i might aswell get 4gig, and once 64bit drivers really kick off then i'll be ready
[02:39] <prometoys> poli: thanks...
[02:40] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: really strange, I have the same card in my desktop and I didn't have any trouble installing gutsy
[02:40] <BananaMon> lol, good to see someone's problem was solved....any leads here poli?
[02:40] <Eyemean> nice one ploom, yeah cause im looking to stay with win xp for gaming and stuff and ubuntu of course
[02:40] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: pastebin your xorg.conf
[02:40] <prometoys> poli: if i figure it out, maybe it takes longer, but later i hope to have more knowledge about lvm and crypt/luks
[02:40] <mattholimeau> is there any way to harden the current boot status?
[02:40] <prometoys> poli: thanks again and bye, i am offline now...
[02:40] <mattholimeau> i.e. - it seems like every time i boot this thing, i get different results. i just rebooted and my sound finally came back on...
[02:40] <ploom> Eyemean, speaking of linux drivers - just try ubuntu live cd first - and I bet you will be amazed
[02:40] <mattholimeau> i want to make sure it will the next time i reboot it
[02:41] <sexymikey> chiz: im running 64bit feisty everything else works great its just that
[02:41] <sexymikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53109/
[02:41] <iBA86> should i partion the entire disk or just the free space?
[02:42] <poli> BananaMon: you might have screwed up your window manager's configuration. Try selecting something else in "Options" at the login screen, and, as a last resource, probably deleting the preferences dirs in your home dir will solve it. (actually rename it something else and get a fresh from skell)
[02:42] <Eyemean> im using gutsy now ploom, or do u mean once i upgrade?
[02:42] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: there is the difference, and someone scoffed at me for running the 32bit version today
[02:43] <noonan> hi, I followed this tutorial but had to reboot right before the last step - "depmod -ae" - can anyone tell me if I should just enter that command or if I'm borked? http://rtl-wifi.sourceforge.net/wiki/Installing
[02:43] <sexymikey> chiz do you think running the 32 bit might fix it?
[02:43] <BananaMon> poli: that sounds good, but I've tried everything else from my options menu....I guess I'll go and rename the prefs thing from the terminal, so it is /home/myname/Prefrences?
[02:43] <craigbass1976> exit
[02:44] <craigbass1976> oops.
[02:44] <craigbass1976> Not a terminal
[02:44] <craigbass1976> :)
[02:44] <BananaMon> lol yeah
[02:44] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: maybe, I just know that my experiences with 64bit linux has all been bad
[02:44] <hever_> Where can I read what PC configuration I need to run ubuntu ?
[02:44] <hever_> How muc RAM do I need ?
[02:45] <Scunizi_> hever_: ubuntu 256meg min.  xubuntu much less
[02:45] <KNYlaptop> hever_, how much do you ahve?
[02:45] <KNYlaptop> have*
[02:45] <poli> BananaMon: I am a complete n00b in graphical mode, I usually only care about server stuff. I suppose you might want to try to rename the .gnome2 directory.
[02:45] <sexymikey> chiz haha well considering ive been tryin to get this to work since 9 this morning mine has too
[02:45] <noonan> hever_, try http://ubuntu.com
[02:45] <sexymikey> Chiz i guess ill just give that a try then thanks
[02:45] <ploom> Eyemean, I just told you in case there are any doubts in whether ubntu (or linux) will have drivers - just ask for an hour from a friend with some nice 64bit machine to boot up livecd and try it all out (without any installings and formattings) first
[02:45] <|chiz|_> sexymikey: good luck
[02:46] <BananaMon> poli: k, thanks poli...I'll try that out, if not, I'll research about the windows manager thing
[02:46] <hever_> noonan: I found there no infos.
[02:46] <Darkmystere> LjL: What program can i use to move a 10GB Partion to the Dedicated Ubuntu Partion Im lost with Gparted..
[02:46] <noonan> anyone know how to undo an attempted wireless driver install?
[02:46] <Eyemean> oh right i get u, cheers ploom
[02:46] <BananaMon> poli: thanks again, tc guys, keep up the good work
[02:46] <poli> BananaMon: or .gconf sorry, I have little clue about it
[02:46] <LjL> Darkmystere: didn't udnerstand the question
[02:46] <weiner1> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[02:46] <hever_> KNYlaptop: I'm going to buy a new old laptop for my girlfirend ;)
[02:46] <|chiz|_> So it seems Gutsy+Fglrx=No Suspend To Ram :(
[02:46] <poli> BananaMon: of the hidden dirs in your home :)
[02:46] <Darkmystere> LjL: How can i add more space to my Ubuntu partion?
[02:46] <noonan> hever_, click on documentation, then "new to Ubuntu?"
[02:47] <hever_> What about Ubuntu on a iBook ???
[02:47] <BananaMon> lol k, I'll look that up...thanks again, bye
[02:47] <noonan> hever_ I know it can be done
[02:47] <LjL> Darkmystere, should be a matter of dragging the slider for that partition in gparted... of course, you can't run it from your live system. you need a live cd.
[02:47] <Darkmystere> Im trying Gparted But i dont really know how to work it..
[02:47] <Darkmystere> LjL: Err theres no space left really on this partion
[02:48] <hever_> noonan: so there are no problems with PPC?  But I think 64MB are tooooooo less
[02:49] <hever_> noonan: there are no informations about requirements
[02:49] <Darkmystere> Omg no 1 can help me i dun want to reinstall i just got Everything fixed..
[02:50] <noonan> hever_, i never said no problems .. buut
[02:51] <Flannel> hever_: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/desktopedition  at the very bottom
[02:52] <Breebo> Question about aterm: I have tried to use transparency by running aterm with the +tr and +trsb options, but there is still no transparency. Any ideas?
[02:52] <LjL> !away > SuPeRhOmEm[off]    (SuPeRhOmEm[off], see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:52] <CrazyWulf> Anyone know what would cause Frostwire not to start up at all?  Tried reinstalling and still a no go
[02:53] <blahdeblah2> Hi.  I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a laptop to run Ubuntu 7.10.  The things i'm looking for are: Core 2 Duo CPU, 4 GB RAM, ATI discreet graphics, DVD burner, and screen at least 1000 pixels high (don't really care if it's widescreen or not).  Any suggestions?
[02:54] <un0p> Breebo, i don't think you read the manpage right (always do that) -- aterm -tr -trsb -sh 60
[02:54] <nickrud> CrazyWulf: you have java installed?
[02:54] <jason__> I've known ATI to have problems with ubuntu
[02:54] <|chiz|_> blahdeblah2: don't get ati graphics
[02:54] <nickrud> CrazyWulf: sun java , that is
[02:54] <jason__> yeah
[02:55] <jason__> especialy if you want a 3d desktop
[02:55] <blahdeblah2> jason__, |chiz|_: OK, let's say without the ATI graphics.  I care almost zero about 3D.
[02:55] <|chiz|_> blahdeblah2: I've run ubuntu on intel graphics and its great
[02:55] <blahdeblah2> I've had excellent results with my ATI X1300 on Debian etch.
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> I have intel, ati and nvidia.. all decent effects..
[02:56] <mzracer360> I flashed the BIOS of my Mirra backup device to get into the CMOS w/o the manufacturers password and enable a cdrom drive.  I am now having trouble installing Ubutnu server.  I get: Loading /install/vmlinuz.........
[02:56] <mzracer360> Loading /install/init.gz............
[02:56] <mzracer360> Ready
[02:56] <|chiz|_> blahdeblah2: ATI's drivers are just not where they should be
[02:56] <mzracer360> but then it just sits there with a blinking  _ character
[02:56] <jason__> some ATI has no problems.  If it ran there my guess is it will run here.  Ubuntu is a Debian
[02:56] <Darkmystere> Can some 1 please help me i just want to add space to my Ubuntu Partion
[02:57] <blahdeblah2> Anyway, about laptop recommendations... ;-)
[02:57] <un0p> Darkmystere, use a partitioning program from a live CD
[02:57] <|chiz|_> blahdeblah2: yeah I would recommend intel everything
[02:57] <Meshezabeel> greetings, I am trying to move a selection in GIMP, in the manual it says to hold ALT+SHIFT+Left Mouse, but when I do this, it moves my whole window. Is ubuntu somehow taking control away from GIMP with this shortcut? And if so, how can I disable it so I can use it in GIMP?
[02:57] <|chiz|_> blahdeblah2: no problems and you'll save money
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere: NOt that simple of a request,  Sort of like wanting to just move your house across the street...
[02:57] <jason__> Honestly, I haven't seen a computer that didn't run ubuntu.  Is it compatibility your conserned with.
[02:57] <Darkmystere> un0p: Theres no more space on this partion i want to add another partion at the end
[02:57] <blahdeblah2> |chiz|_: I'm asking for brands and models here, not chipsets.
[02:58] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow: i Know but i made 10GB Free and i want to add it to my Ubuntu partion i have around 150mb left..
[02:58] <|chiz|_> blahdeblah2: don't get a toshiba, I hate this thing I'm typing on
[02:58] <genii> Meshezabeel: I'm pretty sure that is a compiz shortcut
[02:58] <blahdeblah2> jason__: No, just knowing what brands & models are out there that are known to work.
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Nvidia 6600 is nice as is my older ati 9200
[02:58] <Dr_willis> Darkmystere,  there are also limits to the # of partitions you can have on a drive. (4 primaries)  or make a extended partition to hold locgicals if you need more.
[02:59] <Ademan> does anyone know if the "xorg-dev" package is xlib?
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere: Start by posting your fstab -l
[02:59] <Dr_willis> !find xlib
[02:59] <ubotu> Found: libglu1-mesa-dev, libosmesa6-dev, libxcb-xlib0, libxcb-xlib0-dbg, libxcb-xlib0-dev (and 9 others)
[02:59] <jason__> I know HP Emachiene Viao Compaq.  I've run it fine on all of those
[02:59] <un0p> Darkmystere, all you really have to do then is format the free space at the end and move /usr over onto it
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Ademan: dont think so.
[02:59] <Meshezabeel> genii, hmm, how do I disable compiz, I went to system -> Preferences -> Appearance and set the Visual Effects to "NONE". I assumed this disabled compiz, but maybe not.
[03:00] <User2005> anyreason my browser keeps closing early when I'm using my browser ?
[03:00] <Ward1983> any ideas about this?
[03:00] <Ward1983> Checking for zr ... yes (libavcodec (static) is required by zr, sorry)
[03:00] <Darkmystere> un0p: Will it still use the space i have and sec Jack
[03:00] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow: Command not found
[03:00] <jason__> The only one that has problems is my Emachien.  That is because of ATI
[03:00] <crdlb> Meshezabeel: by default, that should only happen if you don't hold down shift (at least with compiz, perhaps metacity is different)
[03:00] <Meshezabeel> Darkmystere, get GParted on a live CD
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> User2005: Which browser and how did you install flash, java and what plugins are you running
[03:00] <crdlb> Meshezabeel: you can change that key at System > Preferences > Windows though
[03:00] <un0p> Darkmystere,  if you were to move /usr over -- then you will free up space under /  (in the order of atleast 2-3 gigs)
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere: Start by posting your sudo fstab -l   last letter is L
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> wait.. fdisk -l
[03:01] <un0p> Darkmystere, Jack_Sparrow  -- it's  fdisk -l
[03:01] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow: i copy pasted it it says fstab command does not exist..
[03:01] <nickrud> Ademan: xorg-dev will pull in all the X development headers, probably will give you what you're looking for
[03:01] <Darkmystere> lol
[03:01] <Ademan> nickrud: thanks
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere: Sorry, trying to eat dinner and type with half a brain working
[03:01] <mzracer360> anyone here installed Ubuntu onto a Mirra backup device?
[03:01] <psyber> hello all
[03:02] <duvnel1> well, I fixed it finally.. after digging around in .so file symbols I discovered that the ati driver had place some .so files  that were being picked up before the .deb's files were.. then I found an uninstall script for the ati driver.  I ran that and then reinstalled all xorg, mesa, and fglrx packages and now it's working again! phew
[03:02] <Darkmystere> It just returns command prompt Jack_Sparrow
[03:02] <osxdude|mac> Restarting colloquy, brb
[03:02] <Meshezabeel> crdlb, okay, thanks, I changed the key to super, strange that option just can't be disabled as ALT+F7 does it anyhow
[03:02] <genii> Meshezabeel: alt-f2 then gnome-wm --replace                    to enable compiz after again: alt-f2 compiz --replace
[03:02] <un0p> Darkmystere, you probably need to run it under sudo -- sudo fdisk -kl
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere: sudo fdisk -l
[03:02] <un0p> err  - sudo fdisk -l
[03:02] <psyber> anyone in here know a legit way to create a vm of XP without buying a copy of XP?
[03:03] <Patrickva> Um, no
[03:03] <Meshezabeel> thanks genii
[03:03] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow: Yea that was it
[03:03] <un0p> psyber, impossible
[03:03] <wease|> psyber, not likely to ever happen
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> psyber: No.. and please dont ask again in here
[03:03] <SpookyET> hi
[03:04] <SpookyET> The Official OpenOffice packages are better than Ubuntu's http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4188762#post4188762
[03:04] <Darkmystere> !pastebin
[03:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:04] <LibertyShadow> I have been having crashing problems lately
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> SpookyET: Thanks, but did you have a question or need help...
[03:04] <Meshezabeel> crdlb, well, disabled the move window but selection in gimp still does not move...one step closer anyhow
[03:04] <SpookyET> Jack_Sparrow: the question is at that link
[03:05] <User2005> yea ...some reason????!!!!
[03:05] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53114/
[03:05] <tempete> How do I disable a check in ./configure?
[03:05] <User2005> hum...
[03:05] <LibertyShadow> If anyone wants a look: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53115/
[03:06] <un0p> tempete, ./configure --help
[03:06] <tempete> That didn't tell me how to disable a check.
[03:06] <weezill1> Hello's
[03:06] <un0p> tempete, why do you want to do anything else apart from what options ./configure gives you?
[03:06] <un0p> tempete, what are you trying to circumvent ?
[03:07] <User2005> That has to do with the data analysis ?
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere: I dont see any unallocated space on that drive.
[03:07] <arjuna> hello what is a linux dc++ program that searches in  all hubs for files?
[03:07] <tempete> un0p: It's saying "Requested libgnomecanvas-2.0 >=2.14.0 but version is 2.9.1"
[03:07] <User2005> yea....
[03:07] <fatman_> ls
[03:07] <fatman_> ^^;
[03:08] <fatman_> hi
[03:08] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow: because i have it formatted as Ext3
[03:08] <|chiz|_> arjuna: linuxdcpp
[03:08] <genii> tempete: There's usually some reason a progam needs a specific version of a dependency to compile
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !find  libgnomecanvas
[03:08] <ubotu> Found: libgnomecanvas2-0, libgnomecanvas2-common, libgnomecanvas2-dev, libgnomecanvas2-doc, libgnomecanvasmm-2.6-1c2a (and 3 others)
[03:08] <tempete> It says "Or later".
[03:08] <un0p> tempete, you do realise that if you got around the check, the application is probably not going to work well (or not at all)
 does it search in all hubs for a single file?
[03:08] <tempete> un0p: If it doesn't I'll install the old version. I'd like to get around the check.
[03:09] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow: Should i unformat it?
[03:09] <arjuna> how do i install linuxdcpp from bz2?
[03:09] <[gquit]bombadil> !ubotu ebox
[03:09] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere: I really am trying to eat.. no need to unformat it if it is ext3 already..
[03:09] <un0p> tempete, well, you need an understanding of makefiles -- delve straight into the makefile -- probably ./makefile
[03:09] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow: Sorry...
[03:10] <|chiz|_> linuxdcpp: not sure, what distro are you running?
[03:10] <User2005> basic file set diff
[03:10] <un0p> tempete, actually, come to think about it, you probably want to examine ./configure first
 ubuntu sir
[03:10] <|chiz|_> linuxdcpp: Gutsy?
 duh
[03:10] <weezill1> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu Studio and when I try to boot the Kernal from GRUB, I get Error 22: No such Partition. I suspect my mapping may be wrong, is there a command I can enter to view all my partitions that is equivalent to the "sudo fdisk -l" command?
[03:10] <|chiz|_> linuxdcpp: its in the repo champ
[03:11] <tempete> un0p: Thanks. I'll mess with that a bit.
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> tempete: What are you trying to install from outside the official repos?
[03:11] <|chiz|_> arjuna: just apt-get install linuxdcpp
[03:11] <mzracer360> I flashed the BIOS of my Mirra backup device to get into the CMOS w/o the manufacturers password and enable a cdrom drive.  I am now having trouble installing Ubutnu server.  I get: Loading /install/vmlinuz.........
[03:11] <tempete> Jack_Sparrow: I'm not using Ubuntu, actually. Used to - knew this was a good place for general help. Trying to install GTKPod.
[03:11] <un0p> !repeat | mzracer360
[03:11] <ubotu> mzracer360: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:12] <hotdog003> Simply apt-get install gtkpod?
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> tempete: Dependency issues are common when trying to build your own stuff...
[03:12] <arjuna>  just apt-get install linuxdcpp
[03:12] <crwlr> anybody willing to look at my xorg.conf and help me set up twinview?
[03:12] <User2005> yea ????
[03:12] <tempete> Jack_Sparrow: Oh, I know that. I'm just used to the later version working (Like it says it should in the INSTALL file)
[03:12] <un0p> tempete, what version of gtkpod are you after?
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> tempete: Then you need to get help from the distro you are using.
[03:13] <tempete> un0p: I downloaded 0.99.12 from their website.
 http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de/document.php?id=1
[03:13] <|chiz|_> arjuna: apt-get is somewhat of a package mananger
 i want to get that not .698 version
[03:14] <tempete> Jack_Sparrow: I was just looking for a way to ignore the dependency check, actually. Not very distro-specific.
[03:14] <Strider> Question: Synaptic seems to be having trouble downloading the build-essential package (namely the dkpg-dev, patch, and build-essential files). Pops up a "could not be retrieved from server" error.
[03:14] <crwlr> need help with twinview.  xorg.conf = www.pastebin.ca/869341
[03:14] <un0p> tempete, errm, did you say you dont run ubuntu anymore -- i could point you in the direction of precompiled debs
[03:14] <|chiz|_> arjuna: ok
[03:14] <|chiz|_> arjuna: download the tar ball
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> tempete: You cant ignore dependencies
[03:14] <hotdog003> Strider: Switch mirrors?
[03:14] <tempete> un0p: I use Vector. No deb support.
 done
[03:15] <|chiz|_> arjuna: then usually you need to just run ./configure from inside the dcpp folder
[03:15] <Strider> hotdog003: How would I do that in synaptic?
[03:15] <|chiz|_> arjuna: and then make and then make install as root
[03:15] <tempete> Jack_Sparrow: No no, I just mean ignore the check and try to use the version that's there. I've installed things that way before - accidentally.
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> tempete: Sorry, cant help...
[03:15] <|chiz|_> arjuna: but you have to have all the necessary librarys and compilers, ./configure usually checks for all the dependancies
[03:16] <tempete> Jack_Sparrow: That's okay. I just changed the ./configure. That issue is fixed. Now onto the other dependencies! Thanks, un0p.
[03:16] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow Still eating?
[03:16] <un0p> tempete, you seem to be running quite an old version of libgnomecanvas2 .. can't you try upgrading that from your distro's repos?
[03:16] <tempete> un0p: Hm? I checked their site and it's the latest, It hought.
 ./configure from inside the dcpp folder
 bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[03:17] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: I have another question
[03:17] <Cpudan80> Fire away!
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere: I am not going to have time to help much tonight.  Just remember to read !uuid since you may end up changing them and needing to edit fstab to get back in..
[03:17] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: I got it going according to the guide but i can only log in as root
[03:17] <un0p> tempete, 2.20 seems to be current on gutsy
[03:17] <Darkmystere> !uuid
[03:17] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[03:17] <ethernomad> how do I add a network printer in gutsy?
[03:18] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: Hrm?
[03:18] <Cpudan80> It should work for any user
[03:18] <tempete> I'm using 2.9.2. The latest stable on their website is 2.9.1.
[03:18] <tempete> Ubuntu doesn't usually update things until the next stable release is out.
[03:18] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: which part forces you to be root -- can you walk me through the steps you are using to login?"
[03:18] <Darkmystere> !shell
 bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[03:18] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:18] <raj_> guys how do i add my wireless network logo on my panel ???? :S
[03:18] <|chiz|_> arjuna: I see that
[03:19] <stephen_> hey guys, im running ubuntu on an ancient laptop, it has an intel 82815 integrated gpu, i've got direct rendering working at 24bit colour, but in any game the colours are all like bright pink/green
[03:19] <raj_> my wireless network signal (bars)
[03:19] <|chiz|_> arjuna: that is usually how its done
[03:19] <|chiz|_> arjuna: read the Readme.txt file though
[03:19] <|chiz|_> arjuna: it explains it all in there
[03:19] <grekkos> What's the name of an OS X dock-like app I can use on ubuntu?
[03:19] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: i stopped it /etc/init.d/xinetd stop, kill all xvnc processes, restart xinetd as current user
[03:20] <napster> Good Morning.
[03:20] <wookienz> hi sorry to ask a windows question here... but my windows drive shat tiself and thus had to revert to y trusty linux ubuntu back up...what coomands are avail to me in the terminal to do some sort of chkdsk on te windows volume before i erase it!
[03:20] <grekkos> wookienz: i donno if you can chkdsk but you can try to mount it
[03:20] <napster> Anyone care to answer my question?
[03:20] <napster> I
[03:20] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: then go to other computer and type vncviewer ip.ip.ip.ip:1
[03:20] <gpled> would like to run my screen at 1280 x 1024 at something above 56 Hz.  any idea how to get the Hz's up?
[03:20] <un0p> wookienz, ntfsfix from ntfsutils
 i can't understand anything in there
[03:21] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: I thought you only wanted to do it via SSH
[03:21] <un0p> !ask | napster
[03:21] <ubotu> napster: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:21] <napster> I'm from a training center, we recieved PC's from other country, already installed ubuntu, just wanna know the default password and username.
[03:21] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: In which case you would have to ssh to it first
[03:21] <nabcore> anyone ever see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=637206 with the acx driver?
[03:21] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: a prompt dialog opens, username greyed out, enter password which i set with vncpasswd
[03:21] <IndyGunFreak> napster: there is no default username and password
[03:21] <un0p> !sudo | napster  (user passwords might have been set differently by the previous owner)
[03:21] <ubotu> napster  (user passwords might have been set differently by the previous owner): sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[03:22] <napster> We can't login to those PC.
[03:22] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: i do
[03:22] <wookienz> un0p: thnaks will give thata  try
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> napster: if you're being asked for a username and password to log in, then they set up the user accounts, and you need to edit those users.
[03:22] <stephen_> any ideas how to fix my problem guys?
[03:22] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: so do i log into remote host with ssh, then vncviewer localhost:0 ?
[03:22] <un0p> napster, you'll need to change the passwords -- can you boot up into recovery mode ?
[03:22] <ethernomad> how do I add a network printer in Gutsy?
[03:22] <wookienz> grekkos: it mounts ok and i can explore it.. well some of it before it locks up the entire computer...i think there maybe a physical error on it
[03:22] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: might be localhost:1
[03:23] <|chiz|_> arjuna: try ./Sconstruct PREFIX=/path/to/install
[03:23] <Strider> hotdog003: Same problem. Couldn't retrieve any of the files.
[03:23] <|chiz|_> arjuna: try /path/to/install could equal /usr/local
[03:24] <un0p> wookienz, be advised that any ntfs support on linux (or any other OS) is not 100% reliable and you can do damage
[03:24] <noonan> anyone know why a rar file says unsupported archive type?
[03:24] <un0p> wookienz, any other os that's not windows , i should say *
[03:24] <grekkos> wookienz: might want to get rid of it then, but I'm probably not the best person to ask about this... If there's nothing irreplaceable on it i'd reformat
[03:24] <jason__> you need a different achive manager.  Then it will work
[03:24] <un0p> noonan, it's probably not an rar file
[03:24] <geokeratz> has anyone installed succesfully a Keylogger in Ubuntu?
[03:25] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: it says error can't open display
[03:25] <jason__> the default archiver doen't work
[03:25] <grekkos> key logger to do what, geokeratz ?
[03:25] <noonan> un0p, hmm, it says it is with "file" command
[03:25] <yaser> noonan, sudo apt-get install rar
[03:25] <un0p> geokeratz, installing keyloggers is an uncool thing to do
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> geokeratz: No.. too much of a spyware tool...
[03:25] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: What did you type?
[03:25] <geokeratz> lol
[03:25] <wookienz> un0p: i save everything elsewhere...i can wax it at any time!
[03:25] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: Have to tunnel X with your SSH by the way, ssh -X <ip>
[03:25] <un0p> noonan, if file reports it as a rar file, then the archive is probably damaged
[03:25] <noonan> yaser, cool thanks
[03:25] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: ah yes, i forgot the -X
[03:26] <yaser> noonan, yw
[03:26] <noonan> un0p, hmm, weird ok
[03:26] <jason__> I've had the same problem
[03:26] <|chiz|_> Does anyone know how to install tuxonice on Gutsy
[03:27] <jason__> just type rar into add/remove there you can find a program to do it for you.
[03:27] <soldats> !info tuxonice
[03:27] <ubotu> Package tuxonice does not exist in gutsy
[03:27] <stephen_> hey guys, im running ubuntu on an ancient laptop, it has an intel 82815 integrated gpu, i've got direct rendering working at 24bit colour, but in any game the colours are all like bright pink/green any ideas how i can fix this?
[03:27] <un0p> noonan, try unrar first, else if you have a wine subsystem running, you could try running winrar and see if that helps
[03:27] <soldats> |chiz|_, probly by compiling yourself
[03:27] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: ok, logged into the remote host, connected to localhost:1, it prompts for a password, i used the one i set with vncpasswd and it opens up as root
[03:28] <|chiz|_> soldat: I guess so, I see they are going to put it in the next version
[03:28] <rpj8> Hey guys. Why can't I change ownership of any of my /media/ items?
[03:29] <soldats> |chiz|_, is it worth the wait. if not install via compiling. othersise its a few months before hardy is released
[03:29] <soldats> rpj8, what command are you giving
[03:29] <genii> rpj8: Because udev remakes the hard drive /dev/sdX items every reboot with ownership belonging to root
[03:29] <TangentCollision> hello, mon amiré I need help setting up a tf2 dedicated server'
[03:29] <rpj8> soldats: 'sudo chown floor5 /media/sda1/Music'
[03:29] <|chiz|_> well currently I don't havea working suspend 2 ram for my laptop :S
[03:30] <rpj8> genii: I see. So I guess there's no way to make them accessible with samba then
[03:30] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: What do you mean it opens up as root?
[03:30] <soldats> rpj8, is floor5 a file or folder
[03:30] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: It should bring you to a login prompt
[03:30] <rpj8> soldats: floor5 is a user.
[03:31] <genii> rpj8: Subdirectories should be able to be chowned, as you just put in this case, /media/sda1/Music               Music folder should be re-ownable
[03:31] <rpj8> genii: chown: changing ownership of `/media/sda1/Music': Operation not permitted
[03:31] <soldats> rpj8, if genii said its not possible it may not be. but youmeed to give it permissions like "sudo chmod 777 /media/sda1/Music" and all users should be able to access it
[03:32] <TangentCollision> I'll wait my turn then
[03:32] <genii> rpj8: are you sure it's not the sudo command which is the "Operation not permitted " ?
[03:32] <rpj8> soldats: You also can't make the file anymore open than 770. do to the umask in fstab
[03:32] <soldats> err i meant "GIVE" it permisions like "sudo chmod 777 ******"
[03:32] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: when i run vncviewer it prompts for a password in the terminal, after i enter the password i set with vncpasswd it opens a new window like a desktop, wallpaper, desktop icons, etc but its the root user
[03:32] <rpj8> genii: I copy/pasted the exact message from my console
[03:33] <un0p> rpj8, is the volume mounted under /media/sda1 a FAT volume?
[03:33] <rpj8> un0p: Why yes, yes it is
[03:33] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: Ehh... that isn't right --- go back and reread the thing
[03:33] <viktor> how do i get into the long wizzard to reconfigure my keymap (installed with turkish keymap by mistake... yay) :) thanks a bunch
[03:33] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: also see what happens when nobody is logged into the "server" side
[03:33] <un0p> rpj8, FAT has no understanding of ownership and permissions
[03:33] <genii> rpj8: Try: sudo echo "test"    and tell me if it says not permitted or echos back the word test
[03:34] <un0p> rpj8, you need to use mount options as a workaround -- mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o mode=755
[03:34] <genii> un0p: Nice call about the FAT fs
[03:34] <User2005> yup java bug report An error report file with more information ????
[03:34] <rpj8> genii: got output of test
[03:34] <rpj8> un0p: I see. So is there no way to make it accessible thru samba?
[03:34] <un0p> rpj8, well, once you mount it -- then you can share it with samba, why not?
[03:35] <soldats> FAt is windows so samba should be able to access it
 i can't understand anything in there
[03:35] <stephen_> hey guys, im running ubuntu on an ancient laptop, it has an intel 82815 integrated gpu, i've got direct rendering working at 24bit colour, but in any game the colours are all like bright pink/green any ideas how i can fix this?
[03:35] <un0p> soldats, FAT is not windows :)
[03:35] <hanophix33> anyone know of getting better battery life
[03:35] <User2005> firefox java driven ?
[03:35] <geokeratz> viktor, do you mean the keyboard layout?
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> hanophix33: Is it an ATI video card?
[03:35] <hanophix33> jack_sparrow: yes
[03:36] <rpj8> un0p: Hopefully... I'll have to look at the smb.conf file afterwards
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> hanophix33: I may have something.. let me look
[03:36] <hanophix33> jack_sparrow: you helped me with the desktop effects, which run very slow
[03:36] <soldats> un0p, gee im way out of it today. must lay off the...."energy drinks"
[03:36] <TangentCollision> hey, I need help setting up a valve dedicated server
[03:36] <hanophix33> jack_sparrow: none the less you were the only one who could help me
[03:36] <napster> I mean, I can't login coz I don't have the 'username' and 'password'
[03:36] <napster> I can't login in my desktop
[03:36] <un0p> soldats, you could say windows is _FAT_ tho :)
[03:37] <un0p> napster, google "linux password recovery"
[03:37] <TangentCollision> lol
[03:37] <|chiz|_> arjuna: why do you need this up to date version any how?
[03:37] <napster> thanks un0p
[03:37] <soldats> un0p, tru. i could have sworn he said NTFS. oh well. samba should recognize everythign though
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> hanophix33:  May have some info for you.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53118/
[03:37] <TangentCollision> >.<
[03:37] <viktor> geokeratz: well, when i select my session and logon, i have turkish keyboard, also in fluxbox, but in gnome i managed to get the swedish keyboard
[03:37] <cory_> does anybody know how to turnoff recent documents, and deleting .recently-used.xbel and replacing it with a dir name .recently-used.xbel dosen't count
[03:38] <arjuna> <|chiz| you said the uptoday version have a search function that lets me search all the forums
[03:38] <jedi_> jsalf
[03:38] <cory_> any pref setting anywhere?
[03:38] <TangentCollision> does nobody know how to make/use the hlds tool for linux?
[03:38] <arjuna> <|chiz| hub one after another after joining in
[03:38] <pvl1> whats a uri?
[03:38] <hanophix33> jack_sparrow: how come my desktop effects are sooo slow?
[03:38] <geokeratz> so you want to have turkish/swedish in?
[03:38] <|chiz|_> arjuna: ok
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> hanophix33: DOnt have time...  try me tomorrow.
[03:39] <geokeratz> viktor, so you want to have turkish/swedish in?
[03:39] <viktor> geokeratz, i dont want turkish. i want swedish, sorry for not being clear.
[03:39] <|chiz|_> arjuna: what is your linux coding experience like?
[03:40] <hanophix33> jack_sparrow: thanks
 i know nothing abou tlinux feel like another waste of time
[03:40] <hanophix33> jack_sparrow: how do i edit /etc/default/acpi-support
[03:40] <viktor> geokeratz, ive managed to do some sort of reconfigure thingy in gnome, but its still turkish in the "select session, login - state" and also turkish in fluxbox.
[03:40] <soldats> hanophix33, what are your specs for your computer
[03:40] <hanophix33> ati radeon 7500
[03:41] <geokeratz> viktor, wow ,sorry i thought it was a gnome question
[03:41] <|chiz|_> arjuna: well people of your skill levell should really stick to the repo, precompiled stuff
[03:41] <hanophix33> how do i edit /etc/default/acpi-support
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> hanophix33: gksudo gedit /etc/default/acpi-support
[03:42] <viktor> geokeratz, well i think the command applies to both gnome and fluxbox, the only way i managed to change it in gnome was through the graphical interface, with my mouse. but since i cant do that in fluxbox really, i just want to know the command
[03:42] <viktor> geokeratz, i know it was something reconfigure somethingsomething :P if that is to any help :)
[03:42] <|chiz|_> arjuna: you can download a 1.0.0 deb from getdeb.net, people here will probably tell you not to
[03:42] <Pichu0102> Anyone know why that I'm able to unmount my iPod via the eject command in nautilus, yet trying to unmount it using umount, eject, gnome-eject, etc in a terminal give me a "You are not root and is not in fstab" error for the first two and just displays gnome-mount0.6 for the last?
[03:42] <|chiz|_> arjuna: http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=dc%2B%2B
[03:42] <arjuna> <|chiz|_ how much do you know about linux? what if you died middle of learning linux? would n't that be waste of all your time?
[03:43] <|chiz|_> arjuna: I'm a computer science grad student, I do all my work in linux, I learn from necessity
[03:44] <soldats> arjuna, that question is not appropriate here as this is an ububtu support channel
[03:44] <geokeratz> viktor, when in : System>Preferences>Keyboard>layout , what is installed inthere? Is there the turkish?
[03:44] <TangentCollision> usually death wastes a lot of time, hence why we try to live xD
[03:45] <arjuna> <|chiz|_ thank you so much but "Application Linux DC not found"
[03:45] <pvl1> from the command line, can i tell rhythmbox to play a song?
[03:45] <viktor> geokeratz, Microsoft Natural and sweden (only becaus i deleted turkish and put in swedish.) from the beginning it was Default and Turkish.
[03:45] <|chiz|_> arjuna: http://www.getdeb.net/download/1625/0
[03:46] <cory_> hrm if it delete .recently-used.xbel and create another owned by root it gets automatically chowned to my user and made writable
[03:46] <tritium> |chiz|_: linuxdcpp is in the repos
[03:46] <tritium> !info linuxdcpp
[03:46] <ubotu> linuxdcpp (source: linuxdcpp): Linux port of the famous dc++ client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.1.cvs20070523-1 (gutsy), package size 1079 kB, installed size 3092 kB
[03:46] <fatedkiss> anyone know about configuring aterm?
[03:46] <tritium> Don't use getdeb.net for something that is in the repos!
[03:47] <grekkos> if i want a program to come up when I type it in the run dialog gui in gnome where does the program have to be located? i.e., can i put it in a home folder subdirectory somewhere?
[03:47] <fatedkiss> tritium, hey i fixed that sound problem i was having
[03:47] <tritium> fatedkiss: great!  What was the fix?
[03:47] <viktor> geokeratz, i was thinking, maybe if i create a text file, from which i can copy some commands and paste them into the terminal in fluxbox i can get the correct kbmap
[03:47] <arjuna> <|chiz|_ thank you i isntalled but still says the same thing in about ob dc++ .698
[03:47] <pvl1> grekkos, if its in a home folder then u have to link to it, in a sense. but its usualy /etc/bin
[03:47] <arjuna> <|chiz|_ where is the new version>
[03:47] <pvl1> corrections anyone?
[03:47] <fatedkiss> tritium, well i got fristrated cuzz i couldnt fix it so i reinstalled ubuntu >.>
[03:48] <grekkos> pvl1: so i have to create a link then ?
[03:48] <viktor> geokeratz, the command 'setxkbmap' sounds strangely familiar aswell... dunno if it works tho
[03:48] <fatedkiss> tritium, and yeah..reinstalled skype and it worked?
[03:48] <tritium> fatedkiss: gutsy?
[03:48] <fatedkiss> tritium, yea
[03:48] <grekkos> pvl1: I was hoping maybe there was a way to just add a new path to $PATH and do it that way but I don't think it works like that
[03:48] <tritium> fatedkiss: well, I'm glad to hear it :)
[03:48] <pvl1> grekkos, no like if ur gonnna run something from the run command, it would be like /home/you//folder/app
[03:49] <|chiz|_> tritium: this guy wants a newer version
[03:49] <pvl1> grekkos, actually i think there is but idk how to do it. google around or search the forums.
[03:49] <geokeratz> viktor, well , i can't think any suggestion . i even googled but
[03:49] <geokeratz> ...
[03:49] <|chiz|_> arjuna: remove the other one
[03:49] <fatedkiss> tritium, yeah, i tried reinstalling alsa-base and a few other things and couldnt get it fixed, this tim i backed up everything
[03:49] <|chiz|_> arjuna: sudo apt-get remove linuxdcpp
[03:50] <cory_> grekkos look at .profile
[03:50] <tritium> |chiz|_: okay...
[03:50] <viktor> geokeratz, thanks a million for your time anyways, im gonna try to add a gnometerm to the startup and a textfile with the correct command :)
[03:50] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: ok, i think its working now, except i can't login twice, the guide says it prompts to login anyway or abort, i get the login screen and it rejects a second login automatically
[03:50] <cory_> if you have a ~/bin dir it should get added to the path
[03:50] <|chiz|_> tritium: I guess there is a new feature that makes the difference
[03:50] <grekkos> cory_: but if i add it to path will it work when I try to run the command from the gnome run dialog?
[03:51] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: To login over top an existing login, use :0 instead of 1
[03:51] <lynx``> Does anybody know if PPC Live works with Airport?
[03:51] <tritium> |chiz|_: cool, then.  Thanks for helping him.
[03:51] <arjuna> <|chiz|_ LinuxDC++ version: see Changelog.txt
[03:51] <arjuna> Core version: 0.698
[03:52] <|chiz|_> tritium: I do what I can so, that when I need help hopefully someone does the same
[03:52] <Brokerer_> hi
[03:52] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: when i try localhost:0 it says connecttotcpaddr: connect: connection refused unable to connect to vnc server
[03:53] <fatedkiss> tritium, you know anything bout aterm?
[03:53] <tritium> fatedkiss: nope, I don't use it.  Sorry.
[03:54] <fatedkiss> tritium, no prob, im trying to figure out where this so called .Xdefaults file is located
[03:54] <soldats> sn00zer, what are you trying to do
[03:54] <sn00zer> soldats: vncviewer over ssh
[03:54] <|chiz|_> arjuna: I see that.... that feature that you want isn't there eh?
[03:55] <soldats> sn00zer, what are you trying to vnc to
[03:55] <sn00zer> soldats: laptop to desktop
[03:55] <nugz1212> hey im trying to screencast my desktop with record my desktop and istandbul, both however come out extremely choppy, even with compiz off. Is there a way to fix this?
[03:55] <crwlr> i gave up on the twinview
[03:55] <tritium> fatedkiss: you can create a personalized one under your home directory: ~/.Xdefaults
[03:55] <soldats> sn00zer, same router?
[03:56] <tritium> crwlr: nvidia?  You read the README.gz in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/?
[03:56] <lynx``> Is there any Airport support for PPC version of live?
[03:56] <tritium> !repeat | lynx``
[03:56] <ubotu> lynx``: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:56] <sn00zer> soldats: yes right now but once it works it won't be
[03:56] <fatedkiss> tritium, ill try that
[03:56] <crwlr> tritium: negative.  didn't realize there was one.
[03:57] <nugz1212> can someone help me get screencasting working?
[03:57] <spee> how can i make fsck run verbosely when it runs during the startup sequence
[03:57] <tritium> crwlr: check it out!
[03:58] <spee> it runs without being verbose and it doesnt show me what partitions its looking at or how far along it is or what its doing
[03:58] <spee> its really irritiating
[03:58] <soldats> sn00zer, well the same router means you connect via rrouter ip address ie. 192.160.1.*** outside connections means you connect via other ip addresses. then connect to the user you want
[03:58] <spee> i turned the splash loading screen off
[03:58] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: Hrm... dunno
[03:59] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: You may have to enable the "easy" VNC to login overtop an existing user
[03:59] <tritium> nugz1212: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CreatingScreencasts
[03:59] <sn00zer> soldats: i've got that, it is connecting to the computer fine, it just says i'm already logged in and wont let me login again
[03:59] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: System, prefs, remote desktop
[03:59] <Creed> high-freq, what in this represents the minor and major number? crw------- 1 root root 4, 6 Jan 22 11:53 /dev/tty6
[03:59] <crwlr> tritium: doesn't say anything about dual monitors
[03:59] <Creed> agh i hate autoname fill
[03:59] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: Check boxes 1 2 and 4
[04:00] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: give it a password too
[04:00] <soldats> sn00zer, connect witha different user name. if you dont have one make one you can connect with
[04:00] <mattholimeau> ubuntu rules... i just wish it weren't so finicky
[04:00] <mattholimeau> can anyone help me make it less finicky?
[04:00] <soldats> define :finickey
[04:00] <localgod12> anyone use reconstructor?
[04:00] <tritium> crwlr: yes it does, in one of the end sections
[04:01] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: soldats: thanks for your help
[04:01] <mattholimeau> soldats: whenever i reboot, i don't know what to expect. sometimes the sound works, sometimes compiz doesn't load
[04:01] <tritium> mattholimeau: if you want help, ask a well-formed question
[04:01] <mattholimeau> tritium: i did an hour ago. got no response. thought i might take a different angle.
[04:02] <tritium> mattholimeau: it doesn't serve you well to be sarcastic
[04:02] <crwlr> negative, tritium.  i am looking at it right now
[04:02] <spee> how can i make fsck run verbosely during the startup sequence? I have the ubuntu splash screen disabled
[04:03] <mattholimeau> tritium: didn't mean to offend. i'm being honest as far as i see.
[04:03] <tritium> crwlr: I've used it before.
[04:03] <ericvw> Under "Services" in Ubuntu what does enabling the Terminal Multiplexor (Screen) do vs just invoking screen in the command line?
[04:03] <crwlr> tritium: well maybe after i do a fresh install and my xorg.conf isn't so bloated, then i will ask for your help
[04:03] <soldats> mattholimeau, for sound make sure alsa is selected as sound card. make sure you save sessions on logout. for compiz i have no clue as i dislike compiz. maybe your box is too slow. not sure though. for compiz helpo ask in #compiz-fusion
[04:03] <spee> ericvw nothing :r
[04:04] <ericvw> spee: Really?  Wow...how useful
[04:04] <tritium> crwlr: I don't have nvidia anymore, but I recall reading the long .gz doc in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx, and it had all the info I needed
[04:04] <localgod12> is this the right place to ask questions about reconstructor
[04:04] <soldats> !dualhead | crwlr
[04:04] <ubotu> crwlr: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[04:04] <mattholimeau> soldats: i think that's what i'm looking for, thanks. i'll poke around at saving me session.
[04:04] <crwlr> soldats: that's no help, trust me.  been there, tried that...no go
[04:05] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: n
[04:05] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: np*
[04:05] <soldats> mattholimeau, cool. hope it helps. i might be away till tomorrow. if i dont respond ill most likely be asleep
[04:05] <localgod12> is this the right place to ask about reconstructor?
[04:05] <crwlr> tritium: think it'd still be in the ..../nvidia-glx-new folder?
[04:05] <tritium> !repeat | localgod12
[04:05] <ubotu> localgod12: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:05] <mattholimeau> soldats: could you point me to where i would save my session? google is giving me nothing but button missing bug reports
[04:06] <tritium> crwlr: yeah, if that's the driver you're using.  It should still be README.gz
[04:06] <localgod12> sorry for the repeat but things were going by fast thought someone may have missed
[04:06] <soldats> crwlr, i dont know anything about dual monitors so id suggest waiting a while and asking again or wait till tomorrow since asking multiple times is frowned upon
[04:06] <mattholimeau> !patience mattholimeau
[04:06] <soldats> mattholimeau, try in desktop settings
[04:06] <mattholimeau> thanks
[04:06] <nick_> hey, does anyone know how to fix the JACK Server when it says "the playback device "hw:0" is already in use. Please stop the application using it and run JACK again"?
[04:06] <tritium> crwlr: looks like it's /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-new/README.txt.gz
[04:06] <crwlr> yeah, i got my chat ethics down, soldats, so please don't hound me
[04:07] <sheskar> I installed Hardy in VMware, the resolution is set to 800x600. Unfortunately "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" doesn't ask me to set up the Monitor, where can I get back this question?
[04:07] <tritium> soldats: we'll get him going
[04:07] <crwlr> tritium: gotcha.  i'll check it out after my install finishes
[04:07] <Midtronic> what network stuff got changed between feisty and gutsy?
[04:07] <soldats> crwlr, im not trying to. im only saying my typical response to everyone :P. i really dont mean to be rude
[04:07] <Midtronic> I do a dist-upgrade, and all of a sudden I can't ssh into my box anymore
[04:07] <Javid> !lolcats
[04:07] <ubotu> i iz so bored of lolcats. speek english!
[04:07] <tritium> crwlr: It's chapter 13 in that file
[04:08] <crwlr> soldats: well that's nice, but i have had many other screen names in here and i have long since perfected my chat ethics, thank you very much.
[04:08] <crwlr> tritium: 10-4 bozz
[04:08] <soldats> Midtronic, it may be that ssh was upgraded so the passphrases are reset
[04:09] <CyberMad> how to check size and free size of memory ?
[04:09] <CyberMad> i google it, but can not find it
[04:09] <CyberMad> du -h, df -h is for checking harddisk size.. i don't know about memory
[04:09] <tritium> crwlr: free
[04:09] <tritium> CyberMad: free
[04:10] <crwlr> tritium: :S huh???
[04:10] <tritium> crwlr: sorry, wrong nick
[04:10] <soldats> type "free" in terminal
[04:10] <crwlr> tritium: no prob
[04:10] <CyberMad> i think something weird with my linux.. please see this:
[04:10] <CyberMad>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[04:10] <Midtronic> soldats: nope, I just cleared out ~/.ssh/known_hosts, still nothing
[04:10] <soldats> CyberMad, see my post
[04:10] <CyberMad> Mem:        499736     490776       8960          0      68584     250532
[04:10] <soldats> or trituims
[04:11] <tritium> CyberMad: luckily that's a short paste.  In general, please don't paste here.
[04:11] <CyberMad> i upgrade my memory to 512 from 256, but the free memory size is still too small :( why?
[04:11] <crwlr> wow...25mb of free memory on my laptop...512 altogether...
[04:11] <CyberMad> i will paste the whole information after free command, just a second...
[04:11] <fatedkiss> to comment out a line in any file is it '#' before the text?
[04:12] <astro76> !ram | CyberMad perfectly normal, read this to understand why
[04:12] <ubotu> CyberMad perfectly normal, read this to understand why: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[04:12] <soldats> CyberMad, was the mem chips the same manufacturer and size
[04:12] <crwlr> cybermad: that sounds like a downgrade to me...
[04:12] <crwlr> oops nvm
[04:12] <geokeratz> localgod12, i didn't know reconstructor , that was a good question ... :)
[04:12] <wolferine> what can I use to convert a .img file into an .avi ?
[04:12] <CyberMad> http://pastebin.com/m29f667a2
[04:13] <crwlr> wow...i can't believe i called that a downgrade...thought it ready "...from 512 to 256"  maybe i've been up too long...
[04:13] <CyberMad> btw, is that correct 512 ? the total 499736
[04:13] <tritium> CyberMad: yes, see the links above
[04:13] <crwlr> cybermad: there's not exactly 512mb on a 512mb stick.  it's an approximation
[04:13] <fatedkiss> wolferine, .Img as in a disc image right?
[04:14] <crwlr> yes
[04:14] <wolferine> fatedkiss, .img is an image extension
[04:14] <crwlr> fatedkiss: .iso is a better format tho
[04:14] <CyberMad> crwlr, yes i know about that
[04:14] <fatedkiss> crwlr, i know im used to images
[04:15] <CyberMad> crwlr, i just don't get it... why after upgrade my memory to 512 MB from 256, i still get free 8044  and i'm very sure that make my computer slow
[04:15] <crwlr> fatedkiss: coo.  i got about 2,000 images on my computer.
[04:15] <wolferine> CyberMad, run memtest on your RAM
[04:15] <astro76> CyberMad: please read the link ubotu gave you, but in a nutshell, you can consider the Cached memory to be free
[04:15] <soldats> run memtest86
[04:15] <fatedkiss> crwlr, i do alot of image burning and mounting
[04:15] <wolferine> fatedkiss, any idea, or just interested in my topic of discussion ?
[04:15] <astro76> or waste your time with a memtest
[04:16] <tritium> CyberMad: likely you're using all that memory, but swapping out less.
[04:16] <astro76> ;)
[04:16] <crwlr> cybermad: why don't you just do a bigger upgrade than that?  you aren't going to see a big performance increase.  heck, i have 2gb in my computer and it runs sweet...that's my desktop of course.  my laptop is sluggish with ubuntu and windows and it only has 512 in it
[04:16] <fatedkiss> wolferine, was just wondering i dotn really know, i thaught of .img as a disc image
[04:16] <wolferine> what can I use to convert a .img file into an .avi ?
[04:16] <fatedkiss> wolferine, if that is the cas ei was unaware you can make it into .avi , usualy .avi is a video format
[04:16] <CyberMad> E: Couldn't find package memtest
[04:17] <CyberMad> oops sorry
[04:17] <CyberMad> it should memtester
[04:17] <wolferine> CyberMad, its on the Ubuntu installation CD
[04:17] <lynx``> is java pre-installed on live?
[04:17] <wolferine> CyberMad, there is no 'memtest' in the repos
[04:17] <crwlr> fatedkiss: big 10-4 on that, i do the same.  everytime i come across a new cd or dvd, i gotta make an image and a copy so i can put the original in my archive
[04:17] <tritium> CyberMad: memtest86+, as "apt-cache search memtest" would reveal
[04:17] <phineas> hi
[04:18] <phineas> #ubuntu-artwork
[04:18] <viktor> I'm using Ubuntu Gutsy 7.10 and I have dual boot, with winxpp as my alternate OS. is there some way i can reach my windows files through linux? thanks a bunch! :)
[04:18] <astro76> lynx``: no Sun's legal terms prevent that
[04:19] <fatedkiss> wolferine, is there a specific file on the .img you want to turn into an .avi?
[04:19] <wolferine> fatedkiss, ill look for assistance else where, thanks though
[04:19] <fatedkiss> wolferine, no problem i would suggest google-ing it
[04:20] <soldats> CyberMad, try memtest86
[04:20] <lynx``> awesome, another reason why I hate linux as a desktop. Takes way too much time to install java
[04:20] <mattholimeau> viktor: i've been trying to get dual booting to work... i have a windows install on a second drive... there any chance you could help me?
[04:20] <wolferine> fatedkiss, ill no longer require your suggestions :)
[04:20] <crwlr> tritium: desktop install just completed and booted.  time to try this out
[04:20] <tritium> crwlr: good luck
[04:20] <astro76> wolferine: you'll want to convert it to an iso.. link coming up
[04:20] <wolferine> lynx``, why is taht ?
[04:20] <mattholimeau> seems everything i've seen points to two partitions on the same drive.
[04:20] <astro76> !iso | wolferine
[04:20] <wolferine> that*
[04:20] <ubotu> wolferine: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:20] <crwlr> tritium: should i install the restricted driver?
[04:20] <wolferine> astro76, then ?
[04:20] <tritium> !info lynx | wolferine
[04:20] <ubotu> wolferine: lynx (source: lynx): Text-mode WWW Browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.6-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1138 kB, installed size 4860 kB
[04:21] <wolferine> tritium, ?
[04:21] <astro76> wolferine: you could then mount it and copy whatever is in it
[04:21] <tritium> wolferine: you asked what it was...
[04:21] <lynx``> wolferine: everytime I've installed java, it's taken well over 3 hours of working out problems
[04:21] <wolferine> tritium, i asked what what was ?
[04:21] <tempete> ubotu: Just wanted to get back and let you know editing the .configure file worked. Thanks.
[04:21] <astro76> lynx``: that's too bad everytime I do it it takes 15 seconds
[04:21] <tritium> wolferine: heh, nevermind...
[04:21] <wolferine> lynx``, u reading the API for installation FAQ? lol
[04:21] <boom> for toshiba m10 what video card driver is needed
[04:21] <DoubleDew> !ubotu dvd
[04:21] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:22] <lynx``> And there's no Airport support =(
[04:22] <SpookyET> Is there a ppt to pdf coverter? Evince does not support ppt yet, and I can't stand OpenOffice impress, nor powerpoints for that matter.
[04:22] <Chamunks> Im trying to do something like this sudo mount /media/sda1/audio/ /home/user/Music/  how can i do this
[04:22] <DoubleDew> anyone else have problems with DVDs on gutsy?
[04:22] <tritium> SpookyET: no, Impress would be your best bet
[04:22] <astro76> Chamunks: replace mount with ln -s
[04:22] <crwlr> anybody, should i install the nvidia restricted driver?
[04:22] <Chamunks> astro76, thanks
[04:23] <astro76> Chamunks: and no sudo
[04:23] <wolferine> astro76, easy to convert .img to .iso ?
[04:23] <astro76> wolferine: never tried it
[04:23] <viktor> mattholimeau, I think the trick is to install winxp first! just delete all the partitions you have, allocate like 25 gigs for winxp. install. complete the installation. put in the ubuntu cd and just follow the steps. at one time you will be asked how to partition your drive(s). just say "use the largest unpartitioned space" or something like that
[04:23] <Chamunks> astro76, is there a way to make it appear as the name Music
[04:24] <CyberMad> !memory
[04:24] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[04:24] <viktor> mattholimeau, then it just worked fine for me with accepting what the ubuntu installer told me it would do, however it looked at first as tho it would reformat my win-partition, but it didnt, dont be scared, just try :)
[04:24] <astro76> Chamunks: it will be available under /home/user/Music/ with that command
[04:25] <CyberMad> after running memtest 512M, then my computer got restart automatically, then i check memory by typing free on shell, well i got: free 346620
[04:25] <lynx``> Anybody know how to right click on a mac laptop? :D
[04:25] <sn00zer> Cpudan80: got another question, is it possible to play audio over vnc? i realize its slow and would be choppy, but is it possible?
[04:25] <idyllic> lynx``: ctrl + click
[04:25] <Cpudan80> sn00zer: I dont think so --- but I really don't know
[04:25] <wolferine> sn00zer, yes, you can
[04:25] <astro76> CyberMad: that's because you just restarted, nothing has been cached yet
[04:26] <Chamunks> astro76, i see that well thats good enough thanks lots!!
[04:26] <tritium> CyberMad: that's not unusual.
[04:26] <CyberMad> what do you think? what actually eat my memory hehe...?? or read the documentation you give will get an answer?
[04:26] <astro76> CyberMad: it gives the answer and we have several times also
[04:26] <wolferine> CyberMad, run memtest yet ?
[04:26] <lynx``> With ubuntu idyllic
[04:26] <tritium> CyberMad: I think everything is normal.  You don't have a problem.
[04:26] <CyberMad> wolferine, yes, i run it with command: memtest 512M
[04:27] <CyberMad> because my memory is 512 MB
[04:27] <DoubleDew> is it possible to have a local Domain Name for a ubuntu Apache server?
[04:27] <wolferine> CyberMad, never run it from command line, as memory is being used, which could cause your results to not be true
[04:27] <sn00zer> wolferine: how is it done, i've ssh'ed into the remote host, then vncviewer localhost, browsed to my mp3 file and opened it, but there's no sound
[04:27] <wolferine> to each their own
[04:27] <CyberMad> tritium, i ask the problem few minutes ago because i got weird problem... my free memory is only 8084
[04:27] <idyllic> lynx`: Right-click is done by tapping the bottom-left corner of the touchpad, and middle-click is done by tapping the bottom-right corner of the touchpad.
[04:27] <wolferine> sn00zer, thats not how you do it
[04:28] <tritium> CyberMad: so?
[04:28] <CyberMad> wolferine, run from qw
[04:28] <CyberMad> wolferine,  then run from where? :)
[04:28] <tritium> CyberMad: if you only have 512 MB, I'm sure most of it is being utilized.  You're probably also swapping heavily as well.
[04:28] <Apsimar> hi all
[04:29] <sn00zer> wolferine: ok, i guess i should have clarified my situation, is it possible with vnc over ssh?
[04:29] <CyberMad> tritium, that's really weird... something eat my memory drop to 8084 from 512MB, i just run File Browser, XChat, Psi and Terminal
[04:29] <tritium> CyberMad: see my comments above
[04:29] <astro76> !ram | CyberMad this explains what is going on EXACTLY
[04:29] <ubotu> CyberMad this explains what is going on EXACTLY: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[04:30] <wolferine> sn00zer, im not VNC expert, why not check their website ?
[04:30] <wolferine> sn00zer, as you have your answer
[04:30] <CyberMad> tritium, if you my pastebin above... my swap isn't use... just only memory eat by something (monster maybe... eh??)
[04:30] <CyberMad> astro76, thank you, i will read the documentation
[04:30] <tritium> CyberMad: you're not listening...
[04:31] <nickrud> DoubleDew: yes, if you have a local domain name server or name it in the other machine's /etc/hosts
[04:32] <CyberMad> ok, sorry tritium
[04:32] <CyberMad> :)
[04:32] <lynx``> Okay, there is no right click
[04:32] <CyberMad> thanks a lot all... i will report here again if this problem happen... thanks for your help
[04:32] <tritium> CyberMad: in particular, read that gentoo wiki page.  It'll explain about the disk cache, etc.
[04:33] <CyberMad> yes
[04:33] <CyberMad> i will
[04:33] <tritium> So, it's not a problem, CyberMad.
[04:33] <DoubleDew> !ubotu IP
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <tritium> !botabuse | DoubleDew
[04:33] <ubotu> DoubleDew: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[04:34] <DoubleDew> sorry ubotu :)
[04:35] <boodah> trying to use the latest ati driver and even though it installs, now DRI is broken.  log is showing "atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been initialized"
[04:37] <DoubleDew> is there a way to view all system commands that get called?
[04:37] <DoubleDew> and a way to view them for specific processes?
[04:38] <juan_ac> hello! I'm having trouble starting ubuntu 7.10 ... Sometimes I can only do it in recovery mode sometimes it does it normally... can anyone help me pls?
[04:38] <DoubleDew> juan_ac: can you give some more details of what is happening?
[04:38] <DoubleDew> is this your first install?
[04:39] <juan_ac>  DoubleDew: nope it isn't... I think it is a power failure problem.... you know one dey the lights went out and since then i'm having trouble starting it up
[04:40] <_> hey all. i have a question about disks and bad blocks. if the hdd has been formatted in windows as ntfs using a slow format, if i then format it in linux as ext3, do i need to check for bad blocks again?
[04:40] <stroyan> DoubleDew: The strace command will show all system calls that a process or its descendents makes.
[04:40] <DoubleDew> stroyan:  thanks
[04:41] <DoubleDew> juan_ac:  what does it say when it can't boot regularly?
[04:43] <ArthurArchnix> im-a-n00b: Just create the partition. You can check the disks for errors later.
[04:43] <juan_ac>  DoubleDew: well in recovery mode i have to write the command gdm in order to finish booting up, regullary sometimes it boot's up without any problem... sometimes it just hangs up checking something like etc.apt i don't remeber....
[04:43] <ghost> I know this question is unrelated and probably blasphemous, but where can I get support for a mac round these (irc) parts
[04:44] <ghost> I am a linux user but figure it won't e hard for me to lern osx to get a job as an apple tec
[04:44] <astro76> ghost: #macosx I think
[04:44] <ghost> astro76, thanks
[04:44] <ArthurArchnix> ghost mac users don't need support. Everything just always works perfectly. :P
[04:45] <Xabriel> ok, I've got both gutsy and windows XP installed, I've gotten it to boot to grub, but here's my problems: 1. ubuntu will no longer boot. 2. The grub menu isn't working, it's going to grub prompt
[04:45] <stroyan> ghost: osX, ghost you are dead to us!  (Oh, I guess you came in that way.)
[04:45] <Cpudan80> !grub | Xabriel
[04:45] <ubotu> Xabriel: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:45] <Cpudan80> Xabriel: Follow the first one
[04:45] <im-a-n00b> ArthurArchnix: thanks, for the last few days ive tried that.. using e2fsck it keeps dying and loosing the disk (external usb)... where as in windows (and i hate this fact) it formats and checks fine.... the disk itself worked in linux before as an external drive with an ext3 partition..
[04:46] <ArthurArchnix> im-a-n00b: check out this thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=617064&highlight=check+for+badblocks
[04:46] <im-a-n00b> ArthurArchnix: ok thanks :)
[04:46] <TangentCollision> excuse me
[04:46] <TangentCollision> how do I remove a directory that isn't empty?
[04:46] <ghost> rm -f /directory
[04:47] <ghost> i believe
[04:47] <astro76> TangentCollision: rm -r
[04:47] <TangentCollision> thank you
[04:47] <ghost> maybe -F
[04:47] <ArthurArchnix> sudo rm -R might work as well.
[04:47] <ghost> oh its r
[04:47] <ghost> sorry
[04:47] <ArthurArchnix> TangentCollision: Be careful with that though.
[04:47] <ghost> i was thinking 'force'
[04:47] <scree> Hi.
[04:47] <ghost> yeah don't do rm -r /
[04:47] <TangentCollision> yeah
[04:47] <TangentCollision> that would be bad
[04:47] <ghost> or what was that one? cp ./.././../
[04:47] <ghost> or something like that
[04:47] <ghost> makes infinite folders
[04:47] <toyo|desk> hi guys, umm I am having a bit of an issue... I have kubuntu installed and I am trying to use dolphin(the file manager) I want to always see hidden files but I cant figure out how to make it do it
[04:48] <Cpudan80> TangentCollision: It's rmdir --ignore-failure-on-nonempty dirName
[04:48] <TangentCollision> I tried that
[04:48] <TangentCollision> it did nothing
[04:48] <Cpudan80> uhh sorry
[04:48] <Cpudan80> TangentCollision: It's rmdir --ignore-fail-on-nonempty dirName
[04:48] <TangentCollision> but it's all good now
[04:48] <Cpudan80> dammit
[04:48] <Cpudan80> TangentCollision: It's rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty dirName
[04:48] <TangentCollision> haha
[04:48] <Cpudan80> There we go
[04:48] <FloodBot3> Cpudan80: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:48] <scree> I have a USB wireless connector... the driver CD that came with it only sets up on Windows, of course.
[04:48] <TangentCollision> well, I did that option
[04:48] <scree> Is there any chance I'll be able to get this to work on Ubuntu?
[04:48] <Cpudan80> Ha the bot caught me!
[04:49] <TangentCollision> I don't think you need any disc
[04:49] <TangentCollision> it should just work :D
[04:49] <TangentCollision> like apple claims mac does
[04:49] <Cpudan80> TangentCollision: It's a shame it's not just rmdir -f or something
[04:49] <TangentCollision> yeah, seriously
[04:49] <Cpudan80> You could alias it I guess
[04:50] <nickrud> toyo|desk: you might find some kde users on #kubuntu
[04:50] <toyo|desk> nickrud, haha oh sorry
[04:50] <toyo|desk> didnt know there was one
[04:50] <toyo|desk> :/
[04:50] <nickrud> toyo|desk: no problem, just better help there :)
[04:50] <scree> Well I plugged it in.
[04:50] <toyo|desk> I will try
[04:50] <scree> And waited
[04:50] <scree> And the wireless connection still showed nothing.
[04:50] <scree> So plug-and-play didn't work, and yes, the device is supposedly plug-and-play capable.
[04:51] <Qrawl> how do I change Xchat  so clicking X just minimizes to tray
[04:51] <nickrud> !wireless | scree you probably will have to do some extra configs, this should help
[04:51] <ubotu> scree you probably will have to do some extra configs, this should help: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:51] <scree> nickrud: Thank you, I'll check that out.
[04:51] <nickrud> scree: and 'plug and play' is a windows thing
[04:52] <scree> nickrud: I thought there was the same concept for Linux...
[04:53] <scree> "Hotplugging"?
[04:53] <cubed> i can't get adobe flash 9 sound to work, could it be that i am using a usb sound device?
[04:53] <nickrud> scree: yes, if the software is written for it. Sadly, most manufacturers don't provide the plug and play software for linux. Some chip support has been written though
[04:54] <lynx``> how can I reformat a drive from ubuntu?
[04:54] <lynx``> just wipe it, not format
[04:54] <scree> Well this is a 'ZyAIR' connector.
[04:54] <cubed> lynx i just use sudo nautilus
[04:54] <Xabriel> woo!
[04:54] <nemilar> Does anyone happen to know of any program to create cartograms?
[04:54] <scree> I doubt they have.
[04:54] <Xabriel> thanks guys, it worked!
[04:54] <nemilar> lynx``: gparted works great
[04:54] <Qrawl> how do I change Xchat  so clicking X just minimizes to tray
[04:54] <cubed> lynx: also a good idea is to check the hidden files under view
[04:55] <nemilar> Qrawl: click it once, tell it to minimize to tray and click "don't ask again"
[04:55] <Xabriel> one more problem though, and I'm not sure if there's anything I can do about it, it take like 2-5 minutes to boot gutsy
[04:56] <nemilar> lynx``: if you want to do it from the command line, use the mkfs tools
[04:56] <cubed> xabriel: are you on a old pc? bad hard drive?
[04:56] <TheEpitome> Xabriel are you using NFS
[04:56] <cubed> 5 minutes is terrible...booting from cd doesn't even take 5 minutes
[04:56] <Xabriel> cubed, nah, nothing liek that
[04:56] <nickrud> Qrawl: and since that didn't work, settings->preferences->chatting->alerts, there's a checkbox for minimize to tray
[04:56] <Xabriel> TheEpitome I'm not sure what that is
[04:56] <Qrawl> nemilar, how do I see that dialog box agacn
[04:56] <cubed> from grub is less then 30 seconds for me
[04:57] <Qrawl> lol
[04:57] <nemilar> Xabriel: do you know where the hangup is?
[04:57] <TheEpitome> then you are probably not
[04:57] <TheEpitome> :)
[04:57] <nemilar> Qrawl: One sec, I'll help you out, I'll brb
[04:57] <cubed> i have lvm
[04:57] <ghost> The guys over in the OSX board say that it is hardest to go from linux to mac
[04:57] <cubed> but i dunno i thinks its fat right?
[04:57] <Qrawl> nemilar, ok ty
[04:57] <Qrawl> nickrud, I dont have that option
[04:57] <crwlr> i brokeded my desktop...
[04:57] <Xabriel> nemilar, it's between grub and the login
[04:58] <nickrud> Qrawl: are you using xchat-gnome or xhat?
[04:58] <TheEpitome> ghost: I agree, it's like linux but more restrictive
[04:58] <Qrawl> plain xchat
[04:58] <cubed> <--on gutsty with flash 9 no sound...no fix
[04:58] <nickrud> Qrawl: it's just below the alert settings, above 'Highlighted Messages'
[04:59] <nemilar> Qrawl: nickrud got it right on the head
[04:59] <ghost> TheEpitome, easyer to build a freeBSD box then learn mac?
[04:59] <Qrawl> I have Enable Tray, but it still exits when I click X
[04:59] <ghost> or as they say i would need to learn the gui way to do things
[04:59] <Qrawl> Noya, its already checked
[04:59] <nickrud> Qrawl: do you have the notification area on your task bar?
[04:59] <Qrawl> yes
[05:00] <cubed> gnash no sound (the fullscreen icon and volume were meshed together) flash 9 picture looks good but still no sound
[05:00] <Qrawl> nickrud,  but it still exits the program when I click X
[05:00] <nemilar> Qrawl: in your ~/.xchat2/xchat.conf, what's the value of gui_tray = ?
[05:00] <Xabriel> anybody have any ideas on speeding up my boot time? It's abnormally slow
[05:00] <cubed> is there a different version of flash that i should be using besides the one downloaded from adobe?
[05:00] <nemilar> Qrawl: ( cat ~/.xchat2/xchat.conf | grep gui_tray )
[05:00] <nutbastard> Question: Is it possible to make sound output dependant on which Desk is the currently selected Desk, so that I could stream futurama on Workspace 1, simpsons on 2, and so on, simultaneously, and being able to switch between them dynamically with Ctrl Alt [Right], and having the sound switch just as the display does.
[05:01] <nickrud> cubed: no, that's the one
[05:01] <nemilar> cubed: there's an open-source one, but it's not really any good
[05:01] <grody> nutbastard, if you use multiple sound cards, yes
[05:01] <cubed> nemilar: i thought that was gnash
[05:01] <nutbastard> Im guessing it's not easy to emulate extra sound cards...?
[05:01] <nemilar> cubed: yeah, I think that's the name of it
[05:01] <grody> but you would still need to make some software to interact with the media players & hardware
[05:01] <nutbastard> gnash?
[05:01] <cubed> for me the sound and full screen where mashed together and fullscreen wouldn't work
[05:02] <Qrawl> nemilar, gui_tray = 1
[05:02] <nutbastard> i hate their flash player
[05:02] <nemilar> cubed: but from what I hear it's nowhere near as good as the adobe version
[05:02] <Qrawl> nemilar,   but it still exits the program when I click X
[05:02] <cubed> yeah the video didn't look as good, but my flash 9 has no sound
[05:02] <cubed> maybe its my usb sound device?
[05:02] <crwlr> tritium, you still buzzin around here somewhere???
[05:02] <nemilar> Qrawl: huh, hmm.  If you wanted to, you could delete your xchat.conf file and it should ask you again
[05:02] <cubed> my onboard sound is no good it has terrible feedback noise
[05:02] <grody> nutbastard, you could look into how alsa deals with sounds
[05:02] <nemilar> Qrawl: you'll have to close Xchat first, though
[05:02] <Qrawl> nemilar, ok ty
[05:02] <grody> cubed, turn your microphone off
[05:02] <nutbastard> @grody alrighty
[05:03] <cubed> grody: its not even connected or on
[05:03] <cubed> but you can here me moving my mouse
[05:03] <grody> is it one of these intel HD's onboard?
[05:03] <cubed> like this click click click
[05:03] <grody> ahh, poor motherboard design then
[05:03] <cubed> well anyway the usb sound device works for everyother sound
[05:03] <grody> i had me a mobo like that
[05:04] <cubed> yeah my asus l1n64 4x4 does have some minor problems like that
[05:04] <grody> capacitors being too close to the CPU caused random crashes
[05:04] <cubed> except for running sli and 2 cpu's :0
[05:04] <jimmygoon> Anyone want to work on global_menu? it won't work for me, none of the menus appear.. its like its not taking the new debs
[05:04] <nemilar> grody: do you happen to remember the exploding capacitor Dell motherboard era?
[05:04] <grody> lol the laptop or desktop varient?
[05:05] <qrawl> nemilar, ok that worked. ty
[05:05] <nutbastard> DOES anyone think it's feasable, given a not unreasonable amount of effort to accomplish it? (workspace independant sound output)
[05:05] <grody> i heard a dell laptop nearly castrated some poor guy when the battery exploded
[05:05] <cubed> grody: its the only dual socket amd board that wasn't a server board
[05:05] <nemilar> grody: I worked for my school tech support for a while, every few weeks we'd get in a computer that wouldn't startup, and inevitably we'd open it up and a capacitor would be busted
[05:05]  * nickrud pushes his laptop a little lower
[05:05] <nemilar> qrawl: glad to hear it, np
[05:05] <cubed> it has 4 pci express slots and 12 sata ports
[05:05] <cubed> but the sound on it doesn't work
[05:05] <cubed> so is this why my flash sound won't work or am i crazy
[05:05] <grody> server boards are good for desktops too
[05:06] <grody> depends if there is a driver for your hardware
[05:06] <grody> thats always the crunch
[05:06] <cubed> its amd fx-74
[05:06] <nemilar> Does anyone happen to know of a map-making program for linux?
[05:06] <lymeca> I want to compress ever directory within my pwd into a 7zip file with highest compression setting individually as files with the name *foldername*.7z            How can I do this?
[05:06] <grody> i went about a month w/o audio on my laptop because of lack of support :(
[05:07] <cubed> anyone else have flash 9 sound working? did u have to do anything special?
[05:07] <cubed> i have all other sound working
[05:07] <grody> nemilar, kivio
[05:07] <nemilar> grody: thanks, I'll have a look at it
[05:07] <nickrud> !flash | cubed (there's some troubleshooting stuff here, ymmv)
[05:07] <ubotu> cubed (there's some troubleshooting stuff here, ymmv): To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:07] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[05:07] <grody> depends what kinda maps you ment
[05:07] <nemilar> grody: cartograms, specifically
[05:07] <grody> ahh
[05:08] <cubed> !beta
[05:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[05:08] <grody> then not kivio :)
[05:08] <nemilar> grody: I found some program called "cart" via google, but its input and output formats are like rocket science to me
[05:08] <grody> nemilar, r-cran-mapsr-cran-maps
[05:08] <grody> oops
[05:08] <grody> r-cran-maps
[05:09] <nemilar> awesome, thanks
[05:09] <nemilar> you a cartography major or something? ;)
[05:09] <grody> lol no
[05:09] <grody> im a dogs body freelancer
[05:10] <ghost> when will ubuntu be going over to kde4>?
[05:10] <grody> soon
[05:10] <ghost> in before kbuntu
[05:10]  * grody cant wait to take a peek
[05:10] <nemilar> ghost: I believe that the next version of kubuntu will be using kde4
[05:10] <ghost> yeah
[05:10] <nemilar> grody: you can install it's RC now, but uhm...I did, and uhm...yeaaahhhhh
[05:10] <ghost> yeah na i will wait
[05:10] <grody> lol yea
[05:10] <grody> i know, so hence why i'll wait :P
[05:11] <nemilar> haha, a wise decision
[05:11] <grody> im trying to get my hands on the new kernel above 7.10 but cant remember the branch name
[05:11] <ghost> I swear, I liked the KDE, i just wish it was more customisable (maybe 4 will fullfil my desires)
[05:11] <grody> ghost, in what way CANT you tweak kde?
[05:11] <psymin> quick question .. if someone on ubuntu wants to use vorbis audio and theora video .. which packages do they need to install?
[05:12] <ghost> grody, I could never make it behave the way I wanted it
[05:12] <grody> libtheora & libvorbis
[05:12] <LadyNikon> I wish i was able to change my background in kde easier.
[05:12] <LadyNikon> right now.. i cant
[05:12] <ghost> I mean i didn't spend enough time messing around with it
[05:12] <grody> :P
[05:12] <LadyNikon> in gnome i can right click on a pic.. and select it and it changes
[05:12] <ghost> not really stuff like changing background, more like behavior in konq and stuff
[05:12] <nemilar> I don't know what they were thinking, with that new kde4 menu
[05:12] <LadyNikon> now sometimes the pic works.. sometimes it doesnt.
[05:12] <cubed> !Restricted
[05:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:13] <SR71-Blackbird> any toshiba satellite users?
[05:13] <JDLafk> yo
[05:13] <rekon> I am having issues creating a new user via the GUI on Gnome. This username and group existed before but my girlfriend goobered up all sorts of things so I deleted the username, group, and home dir so I could start fresh. But now when I try to create a new user with the same name it won't create it. Am I missing something?
[05:13] <JDLafk> A135
[05:13] <JDLimbo> SR71-Blackbird, what's the problem
[05:13] <LadyNikon> rekon: have you tried a different name?
[05:14] <nickrud> rekon: make sure the username doesn't appear in any of /etc/passwd or /etc/group or /etc/shadow
[05:14] <SR71-Blackbird> rekon, i just want to map my wheel thing.. to control my headphone instead of the default main control for sound
[05:14] <rekon> LadyNikon yes, I can create other names
[05:14] <SR71-Blackbird> JDLimbo, sorry i just want to map my wheel thing.. to control my headphone instead of the default main control for sound
[05:15] <LadyNikon> rekon: any error messages?
[05:15] <JDLimbo> ah, erm.. I don't use an external mouse m'self
[05:15] <rekon> LadyNikon, No...I can fill out the information and click OK and it closes the window as if the user was created...But it dont show up in the list.
[05:15] <rekon> nickrud, let me check
[05:15] <JDLimbo> though I don't imagine that would translate to a laptop-specific problem
[05:15] <Palintheus> what could cause firefox to insist that java is not installed, when sun-java6-plugin is infact installed?
[05:16] <LadyNikon> nickrud: i was just about to suggest that heh
[05:16] <LadyNikon> good call
[05:16] <SR71-Blackbird> JDLimbo i'm sure it isn't.. just wanted to see if someone has solved the problem...  :)
[05:16] <Palintheus> nothing in about:plugins about java
[05:16] <SR71-Blackbird> can someone remind me of a tool to log system inputs?
[05:16] <JDLimbo> although the sound in general on this thing is very much messed up.
[05:16] <nemilar> Palintheus: have you installed j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin ?
[05:17] <Palintheus> nemilar: checking
[05:17] <baconbits|sleep> Howdy
[05:17] <rekon> nickrud, Thanks alot! The name was still listed in the group file even though I deleted the group. Works great now. Thanks again :)
[05:17] <SR71-Blackbird> JDLimbo, i just haven't got the default mic to work nicely.. everything else is good
[05:17] <TheEpitome> SR71-Blackbird: install-watch, install-log
[05:17] <Thugacation> CAN SUM1 TELL ME SOMETHING
[05:17] <Thugacation> IF I INSTALL ubuntu on my harddrive will it format everything
[05:18] <Spenser309> Thugaction: maybe
[05:18] <SR71-Blackbird> TheEpitome, no.. a graphical tool.. that takes mouse.. keyboard actions...
[05:18] <TheEpitome> Thugcation: yes, boot to the livecd and check it out first
[05:18] <Thugacation> what if i just want to contain the WHOLE operating system to ONE folder?
[05:18] <JDLimbo> Thugacation, it will unless you set up a separate partition
[05:18] <Palintheus> nemilar: couldn't find package j2rel1.4-mozilla-plugin
[05:18] <Thugacation> possible?
[05:18] <TheEpitome> SR71-Blackbird: sounds like a keylogger, trying to make a trojan?
[05:18] <nemilar> Palintheus: spelled it wrong
[05:18] <Spenser309> Thugacation:  do you understand the concept of partioning?
[05:18] <cubed> i think i figured out the no sound flash 9, i didn't have unsupported updates enabled in third party sources
[05:18] <Thugacation> yeah i do
[05:19] <Palintheus> nemilar: d'oh
[05:19] <SR71-Blackbird> TheEpitome, no.. i'm just trying to see whatever my buttons map to... to use those values
[05:19] <Thugacation> but why cant i just install ubuntu to one folder
[05:19] <Thugacation> like e:\wubi
[05:19] <nemilar> Thugacation: ubuntu needs its own partitions
[05:19] <Xintruder> hi
[05:19] <cubed> !offtopic
[05:19] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:19] <nemilar> there's some distro of linux that can be installed like that, though, I think
[05:19] <Thugacation> damn
[05:19] <baconbits|sleep> Does anyone here have any experience with installing feisty to a bootable USB drive via the pendrivelinux tutorial? I'm having issues...
[05:19] <Thugacation> partition magic always destroys my hard drive
[05:19] <Thugacation> and i need to buy new ones
[05:19] <Spenser309> thugacation: ok, well theres this program called grub which is the boot loader of linux
[05:19] <JDLimbo> if you have a c:/ drive and an e:/ drive, those are separate partitions
[05:19] <Xintruder> youtube movies dont run in my browser. why?
[05:20] <JDLimbo> Thugacation, what OS are you currently running?
[05:20] <ArthurArchnix> !ask | baconbits|sleep
[05:20] <ubotu> baconbits|sleep: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:20] <Thugacation> Windows XP Pro on the C:\ drive (200gb)
[05:20] <Thugacation> then i have a E:\ drive which is 80gb
[05:20] <SR71-Blackbird> Xintruder, which browser.? are you using 64bit version?
[05:20] <Thugacation> with an old windows 98 os on it
[05:20] <Thugacation> but i dont really want to format it you know what im saying
[05:20] <jumpkick> is there an ubuntu games channel?
[05:20] <Xintruder> SR71-Blackbird: firefox, no, intel 32
[05:20] <TheEpitome> Thugacation: look for umsdos distribution on google and you will find a distro you are looking for
[05:20] <Spenser309> Thugacation: would you like to erase the entire 98 drive?
[05:21] <JDLimbo> Thugacation, in that case, ubuntu can partition it when you go to set it up
[05:21] <Thugacation> not really there's alot of good memories on there
[05:21] <Spenser309> JD is right
[05:21] <JDLimbo> 80 gb is more than enough space for ubuntu
[05:21] <SR71-Blackbird> Xintruder, try about:plugins to see if x-shockwave is mapped to flash
[05:21] <Thugacation> how much does the operating system itself take
[05:21] <Thugacation> in gb
[05:21] <TheEpitome> you can use gparted while booted into the ubuntu livecd to resize the fat/ntfs partition on C: first
[05:21] <Xintruder> SR71-Blackbird: I dont understand
[05:21] <nemilar> Thugacation: if you just want a bare install, 6GB is a good number
[05:21] <Spenser309> Thugacation:  about 10gb maximum
[05:22] <ghost> JDLimbo, heh I like how most linux disto's have tiny footprints
[05:22] <Palintheus> nemilar: still no go
[05:22] <SR71-Blackbird> Xintruder,  can you see application/x-shockwave-flash 	Shockwave Flash when you type about:plugins in firefox?
[05:22] <ghost> dsmalll on a floppy
[05:22] <JDLimbo> I started out with a dual partition because I wasn't ready to give up windows, but I always went into the ubuntu side because it can read/write to the windows side
[05:22] <baconbits> I followed the pendrivelinux tutorial to install feisty to a usb drive (persistent), but when I go to boot from the drive, I get "Could not find kernel image: linux" followed by a "Boot:" prompt. I have started over with the tutorial twice now, thinking perhaps I missed a step or made a typo, but I get the same result each time. The CD I am using has been checked for errors several times and comes up clean. Any suggestions?
[05:22] <JDLimbo> whereas windows can't
[05:22] <nemilar> Palintheus: sudo apt-cache install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[05:22] <nemilar> Palintheus: copy/paste doesn't work with that?
[05:22] <nickrud> Thugacation: and that 10gb includes a 'lot' of apps, unlike windows
[05:22] <Palintheus> nemilar: nope
[05:22] <Thugacation> yeah but windows is a more powerful operating system
[05:22] <nemilar> Palintheus: it's not finding the package??
[05:22] <JDLimbo> final word is, if you want linux on your computer, you're going to have to reformat a partition
[05:22] <Palintheus> nemilar: it installs, java doesn't work
[05:22] <Spenser309> nickrud is correct
[05:22] <ghost> JDLimbo, only reason I still have a Vista partition is because vidya games
[05:23] <Palintheus> nemilar: *still doesn't
[05:23] <nemilar> Palintheus: have to ask, you restarted firefox?
[05:23] <JDLimbo> ghost: yeah I would still have it but I don't have time for video games anymore
[05:23] <ghost> Thugacation, more powerful?
[05:23] <Spenser309> Thugacation:  maybe power is in the eye of the beholder
[05:23] <SR71-Blackbird> baconbits, did you use FAT for the drive?
[05:23] <Palintheus> nemilar: yup
[05:23] <Thugacation> to me
[05:23] <bazhang> baconbits: you need to check if your bios allows for booting from usb
[05:23] <Thugacation> i can write my own application in vb.net to do pretty much what i need
[05:23] <ghost> JDLimbo, i am still trying to play BG2
[05:23] <ghost> and wine is to buggy
[05:23] <Xintruder> SR71-Blackbird: I dont know :(
[05:23] <nickrud> Thugacation: I consider how much control the os puts in my hands as 'power', and linux beats windows hands down on that front
[05:23] <ghost> for now...
[05:23] <nemilar> Palintheus: very strange, I donno
[05:23] <TheEpitome> Thugacation you are so wrong.  windows is a more end-user oriented operating system.  The only reason why it is more widely used now is it that game makers dont make linux games
[05:23] <Palintheus> nemilar: thanks anyway
[05:24] <baconbits> «bazhang» There is a USB option in the bios, and I set it to first priority. Would it matter which USB slot I plug it into? I have 6 on this laptop...
[05:24] <nemilar> Palintheus: good luck, have you checked the ubuntuforums?
[05:24] <Palintheus> nemilar: still searching there
[05:24] <mirdin76> everytime I change the settings or turn on or off my wireless card in network manager my system freezes
[05:24] <nemilar> tru
[05:24] <Spenser309> Thugacation:  Your vb skills wont mean anything on linux.  But if you spend a few days learning python you might find yourself in the same boat as before
[05:24] <ghost> TheEpitome, the thing about games is weird: If it was a copy protection issue then they can just drop that now. Ultra easy to copy/crack games in windows environment.
[05:24] <JDLimbo> ubuntu is a nice compromise for me. I can use the gui when I want to be lazy, but when I feel like getting my hands dirty in the cli I can go that way
[05:24] <SR71-Blackbird> Xintruder, what happens when you go to youtube? do you get the video thing loading or it's something else?
[05:24] <ghost> I think its reliance on DirectX
[05:24] <Palintheus> anyone else have any ideas on why Java would not work with j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin and sun6-java-plugin
[05:24] <Thugacation> cant i use a windows emulator to use vb on linux
[05:25] <Spenser309> sure
[05:25] <SR71-Blackbird> Xintruder, i was expecting some problems with flash.. that's why i asked you to check the plugins
[05:25] <JDLimbo> Thugacation, wine is the most popular windows emulating virtual machine
[05:25] <Thugacation> and i can install the microsoft .net framework on linux too
[05:25] <Thugacation> to make it run good like windows
[05:25] <bazhang> baconbits: the usb option might be for a usb external hard drive--not sure if that covers usb pen drives in all cases--I had an older computer that could boot from the former but not the latter
[05:25] <Spenser309> Thugacation: I'm not sure
[05:25] <Javid> there's a program that emulates it
[05:25] <JDLimbo> it can use native dll's if you have a dual boot set up actually.
[05:25] <JDLimbo> iirc
[05:25] <JDLimbo> I'm not big on wine
[05:25] <Thugacation> why not?
[05:25] <nickrud> Palintheus:  have you done  sudo update-alternatives --config java ?
[05:25] <Xintruder> SR71-Blackbird: flash works ok. But i get a blackbox in youtube for the movie and nothing happens afterwards
[05:25] <Spenser309> Thugacation: you can always fire up a virtual machine and install windows in it
[05:25] <TheEpitome> ghost: its not about copy protection, its about all the windows dlls being called by windows apps.  whats what the wine project does.  the DotGNU project is good for VB/C#/.NET stuff
[05:25] <Palintheus> nickrud: trying now
[05:26] <SR71-Blackbird> Thugacation, try mono...
[05:26] <Javid> mono is what I was looking for
[05:26] <Spenser309> SR71 has a good point
[05:26] <ghost> TheEpitome, DotGNU for those weird apps like say my cell phone sync software
[05:26] <nickrud> this is not a channel for debating the pros and cons of windows vs linux
[05:26] <ghost> stuff like that?
[05:26] <nemilar> aww mono, c#, vb, all that is garbage...Python is all anyone ever needs
[05:26] <baconbits> «bazhang» This is a newer laptop...like less than 6 months old. Is there any particular place to check for compatibility? What is the difference between a USB drive and an external hard drive? My USB drive is 8gb LOL!
[05:27] <JDLimbo> nickrud, not to mention its kind of a lopsided argument
[05:27] <Thugacation> why
[05:27] <SR71-Blackbird> Thugacation, it's so hard to get a game running.. I've never been able to get .NET working/// just for the heck of it /// let alone making it work better..
[05:27] <Thugacation> is python as versatile as vb.net
[05:27] <ghost> baconbits, the usb controler part?
[05:27] <Thugacation> yeah true
[05:27] <Thugacation> but .net is the future of microsoft so they say
[05:27] <Spenser309> Thugacation:  It's a very good language
[05:27] <JDLimbo> ID makes most of their games compatible with linux
[05:27] <baconbits> «ghost» I'm getting "Could not find kernel image: linux" when I try to boot feisty from my flash drive
[05:27] <nemilar> Thugacation: they also said that Vista was the future of microsoft.......
[05:27] <JDLimbo> heh
[05:27] <Spenser309> python that is
[05:27] <nemilar> not to mention windows ME
[05:27] <Thugacation> im sure they just need to work some kinks out, heh
[05:27] <nickrud> !offtopic | Thugacation Spenser309 jdh6403 nemilar nickrud
[05:27] <ubotu> Thugacation Spenser309 jdh6403 nemilar nickrud: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:28] <SR71-Blackbird> Thugacation, if you really can't live without .NET, put windows in a vm and put it there
[05:28] <bazhang> baconbits: then no worries on that front; I've had mixed luck with those tutorials on www.pendrivelinux.com ; just a tiny error will bork the whole deal--took me three tries to get it right the first time
[05:28] <TheEpitome> Thugaction: the future of microsoft should only matter to people who work there
[05:28] <nemilar> :( nickrud
[05:28] <Palintheus> nickrud: hmm ran the command same result...java not working
[05:28] <Thugacation> nickrud, U MAD?
[05:28] <nickrud> Thugacation: no, crazy not angry
[05:28] <SR71-Blackbird> Thugacation, I recommend rather to get mono working better..
[05:28] <Spenser309> lol
[05:28] <Javid> Thugacation, USE MONO :P
[05:28] <Thugacation> ok
[05:28] <Thugacation> mono-project.com
[05:29] <Spenser309> Thugacation: its easier to figure out what to do once you have a working environment
[05:29] <nickrud> Palintheus: are you on 64bit?
[05:29] <Spenser309> Thugacation:  Opportunities abound
[05:29] <Palintheus> nickrud: nope
[05:29] <SR71-Blackbird> Spenser309, but i miss some of the MS easiness sometimes.. with mono..
[05:29] <JDLimbo> so, no, you can't install to a folder on a windows partition, but it barely takes up any space and can read/write to partitions formatted in NTFS.
[05:30] <Spenser309> JDLimbo is right
[05:30] <Thugacation> what about with wubi-installer?
[05:30] <baconbits> «bazhang» man this is crazy, though. I've followed step by step three times total now, and I keep getting this error. Is it possible there's something wrong with my CD that the defect checker is missing? Is there any diagnostic I can do on the flash drive?
[05:30] <ghost> baconbits, is grub know the flashdrive is there / is it set up to boot from the flash drive?
[05:30] <ghost> better yet, does your motherboard support flashboot?
[05:30] <JDLimbo> with 280 Gb on your hard drive, you'll barely notice ubuntu at all
[05:31] <nickrud> Palintheus: dpkg -l '*java6*' | grep ^ii , make sure that  -bin -jre -plugin are installed.
[05:31] <Spenser309> Thugacation: I think wubi does exactly what you say
[05:31] <Spenser309> Thugacation:  I'd say just try it.
[05:31] <baconbits> «ghost» i know it supports boot from USB, but Bazhang informed me that it might not support flash drives, only external HDD that are USB, but I have no clue how to determine if my mobo supports it. My bios is currently set to boot from USB as first priority...I don't think I installed grub anywhere (Windows is on my HDD in my laptop, I just want ubuntu on my flash drive for portable-ness)
[05:31] <Thugacation> that's good to know
[05:32] <Spenser309> Thugacation: but make sure and backup like anytime you install a new os
[05:32] <ghost> baconbits, try a flashdrive distro
[05:32] <ghost> like slacks for flash
[05:32] <Robdgreat> nickrud: Palintheus was assisting me. I'm the one with the issue. trying that command
[05:32] <ghost> just to see if it wil lboot
[05:32] <ghost> then we can troubleshoot what the exact problem is
[05:33] <baconbits> «ghost» ok, will do. I'll be back in a bit, if you'll still be here
[05:33] <SR71-Blackbird> anyone has any idea how I can change the default sound control ... u know what the laptop button has... to sth else.. (not the hardware one)... I have this wheel thing that only controls the main volume... not too useful when i need to control headphone..
[05:33] <ghost> what is your notebook?
[05:33] <ghost> there are vendor specific programs for that
[05:33] <Spenser309> alright i got to go. I have to do my hw
[05:33] <ghost> (i Loooove thinkpads)
[05:33] <mirdin76> anyone know why windows wireless manager does nothing when I load a .inf file into it?
[05:33] <JDLimbo> heh homework
[05:34] <Robdgreat> nickrud: all 3 are installed
[05:34] <Spenser309> yea its painful
[05:34] <baconbits> Oh a quick question: How can I scrub the partitions I made from the USB drive without getting back onto the liveCD? Windows is just loading the small (750MB) partition of the 8gb flash drive.
[05:34] <bazhang> mirdin76: windows? as in windows xp?
[05:34] <patogen> http://81.235.216.106/test/2008-01-22-223323_1280x1024_scrot.png <-- xvid playback, http://81.235.216.106/test/2008-01-22-223839_1280x1024_scrot.png <-- dvd playbac
[05:34] <patogen> how come my videos look like that?
[05:34] <JDLimbo> hmm
[05:34] <patogen> It looks terrible
[05:34] <dude321> I'm intsalling ubuntu on an old windows 98 computer.  It currently connects to the internet via an external wirless reciever (made by 2wire).  Will I still be able to install the recievers software once I install ubuntu?
[05:34] <nickrud> Robdgreat: hm.  and when you ran   sudo update-alternatives --config java   you made sure that the sun was selected?
[05:35] <SR71-Blackbird> ghost, Toshiba Satellite
[05:35] <Robdgreat> right. 6
[05:35] <nickrud> Robdgreat: have you installed any other java plugins?
[05:35] <mirdin76> bazhang: yeah, ndiswrapper style
[05:35] <Thugacation> dude321: probly not
[05:36] <bazhang> mirdin76: youre asking about how to install windows drivers for windows xp? on #ubuntu ?
[05:36] <Spenser309> dude321: maybe try booting up a live cd.
[05:36] <ghost> SR71-Blackbird, I believe there is an app for that...
[05:36] <Robdgreat> nickrud: yeah, got gij, icedtea, 1.4, and 6 :|
[05:37] <ghost> see if there is a toshiba satilite wiki
[05:37] <ghost> i believe there is
[05:37] <ghost> if not some one should start one
[05:37] <mirdin76> bazhang, no, friend, I'm trying to understand my failure to load a windows wireless driver using ndiswrapper, or any other way for that matter
[05:37] <Thugacation> if i use the livecd first do i have to install anything
[05:37] <Thugacation> and i have full capabilities of the operation system
[05:37] <ArthurArchnix> dude321: If it works, it will probably be done using ndiswrapper and the drivers provided for windows.
[05:37] <baconbits> Sorry to ask again, but I think the first might have gotten overlooked: How can I scrub the partitions I made from the USB drive without getting back onto the liveCD? Windows is just loading the small (750MB) partition of the 8gb flash drive.
[05:38] <nickrud> Robdgreat: ls  /usr/lib/firefox/plugins , do you see an obvious java plugin listed?
[05:38] <Spenser309> Thugacation: yes
[05:38] <mirdin76> bazhang: but if I have any Windows XP questions I'll be sure to ask them here first as well
[05:38] <napster> Is there anyone of you guys, had used xitrix mini-frame computers?
[05:38] <Thugacation> cool
[05:38] <Spenser309> Thugacation:  It's preatty neato
[05:39] <Robdgreat> nickrud: libjavaplugin.so
[05:39] <bazhang> mirdin76: haha
[05:39] <jumpkick> anyone here have mouse problems playing quake wars?
[05:39] <nickrud> Robdgreat: ok, ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugin/libjavaplugin.so , that will show you what it is linked to
[05:39] <baconbits> Is that a no? LOL I guess I'll just get back on the livecd again since I know how to do it there. Just trying to cut some corners
[05:39] <mirdin76> bazhang: haha --ha
[05:40] <Robdgreat> nickrud: /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so
[05:40] <cgs_bob> hello all.  can anyone tell me how to find broken symbolic links?
[05:40] <nickrud> Robdgreat: now ls -l /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so , what does that link to?
[05:41] <Robdgreat> nickrud: amazing. /usr/lib/gcj-4.2/libgcjwebplugin.so looks like the problem
[05:42] <nickrud> Robdgreat: yes. That link should have been altered by the update-alternative.  try   sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-javaplugin.so
[05:42] <night_slither> gimp is pretty good but is there something else, an alternative that is better?
[05:42] <Thugacation> gimp sux
[05:43] <ghost> I don't know how to use gimp
[05:43] <ghost> i suck
[05:43] <night_slither> its decent, i know it would be difficult to write that much code
[05:43] <Nubbie> gimp is amazing.
[05:43] <Nubbie> all it needs is a UI overhaul.
[05:43] <Robdgreat> nickrud: That did it. Thanks a ton!
[05:43] <night_slither> i prefer corel draw over gimp
[05:44] <nickrud> Robdgreat: yw. Odd that we had to go all the way around
[05:44] <Robdgreat> nickrud: Wife won't use ubuntu without java.
[05:44] <vwfanatic> I seem to have lost video. When I play any video files, all I get is sound and no video. Do I need to install "codecs" to play AVI/MPG files?
[05:44] <nickrud> Robdgreat: the things we put with for love :)
[05:44] <night_slither> so are there any open source alternatives
[05:44] <Robdgreat> nickrud: amen
[05:44] <bazhang> vwfanatic: did you have video previously?
[05:44] <zcat[1]> java is OSS now isn't it?
[05:44] <vwfanatic> yes
[05:45] <bazhang> using compiz vwfanatic?
[05:45] <vwfanatic> Don't think so
[05:45] <bazhang> hmm
[05:45] <astro76> night_slither: inkscape
[05:45] <night_slither> has anyone had any luck with dreamweaver and wine?
[05:46] <bazhang> vwfanatic: try this: alt-f2 metacity --replace and then try the video again
[05:46] <night_slither> thanks astro
[05:46] <jay-oh-en> everytime i startup my cvomputer it says this internal error failed to initialize HAL!
[05:47] <StrangeCharm> new gutsy install / encrypted on a raid-five / 'error loading os'
[05:47] <vwfanatic> bazhang: unfortunately not
[05:47] <bazhang> vwfanatic: using which media player? and what format file
[05:47] <achandrashekar> all right guys i have a tough question to ask....Im okay with my way around a linux box, and can seem to build/put together things, like an asterisk box or a dns server or even a kickstart server...but seem to be hitting a professional snag when finding a job where they require a lot skill when it comes to scripting...i can vi around..but seems like im always falling short. any advice on interviewing better?? like
[05:47] <achandrashekar>  stuff will come up sed or awk..but my experiences have me rarely using them.
[05:48] <vwfanatic> bazhang: AVI/MPG/WMV -- Movie Player
[05:48] <astro76> !ot | achandrashekar
[05:48] <ubotu> achandrashekar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:48] <goodmami> My friend has a thinkpad x61t, and is having wireless problems.  I have the same computer and I'm not having problems.  Both running Ubuntu Gutsy
[05:48] <bazhang> vwfanatic: tried others? such as vlc?
[05:48] <achandrashekar> how is this random chatter its very pertinent
[05:48] <vwfanatic> will try it now.
[05:48] <goodmami> I'm using iwl4965 driver, he's using ipw3945
[05:48] <StrangeCharm> godmami - what's s/he doing that you're not?
[05:49] <achandrashekar> ive contributed so much to this channel helping others...i just thought was kind of rude..
[05:49] <bazhang> achandrashekar: not the correct channel for that
[05:49] <ghost> goodmami i am using a t61 and i believe the cards are simmilar
[05:49] <night_slither> anybody using wine
[05:49] <ghost> no problems here
[05:49] <astro76> achandrashekar: this channel is ubuntu support only, try the offtopic channel there's plenty in there to answer
[05:49] <StrangeCharm> oh, well there's your problem goodmami - tell them to install the 4965
[05:49] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: I'm not sure why his computer loaded the ipw driver, since we did practically the same install
[05:49] <MrObvious> achandrashekar: It's not an Ubuntu question for needing help running your OS, but rather a question on what to study to improve job hunting skills, which belongs in something else. The OT channel is perfect.
[05:49] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: it is installed... he's using the 2.6.22-14 kernel.  he can find it with locate
[05:49] <Nubbie> !anyone | night_slither
[05:49] <ubotu> night_slither: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:50] <achandrashekar> so when when someone asks about a fglrx issue then its pertinent??? but when it comes to asking about how to write the code...its impertient?
[05:50] <achandrashekar> good grief
[05:50] <Nubbie> !patience | achandrashekar
[05:50] <ubotu> achandrashekar: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:50] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: how can he enable it?  I told him to try modprobe -r ipw3945 and modprobe iwl4965
[05:50] <astro76> achandrashekar: if you've been in here so much "helping" you'd know the rules... what's the problem with #ubuntu-offtopic ?? good grief indeed
[05:50] <boodah> after installing ati proprietary driver according to the ubuntu gutsy installation guide, it appears there's no window manager.  No borders on any window of a program i start and it starts in the top left corner of the screen.  Any ideas?
[05:50] <falconer> hi, I have 7.10. I tried upgrading to 8.04. But the process hangs right at the start. After downloading the upgrade tool
[05:50] <bazhang> achandrashekar: do you have an issue relating to a ubuntu install? if so this is the place
[05:50] <jay-oh-en> everytime i startup my cvomputer it says this internal error failed to initialize HAL!
[05:50] <vwfanatic> bazhang: black screen also
[05:50] <StrangeCharm> isn't there a gui utility? goodmami?
[05:50] <ghost> achandrashekar, I would go ahead and ask the question anyways. Rules are for Lawful characters
[05:50] <ploom> boodah, metacity --replace
[05:51] <falconer> Has anyone an idea of what to do?
[05:51] <MrObvious> achandrashekar: There's a big difference. If you came in saying what would help Ubuntu run better or something, sure.
[05:51] <Nubbie> you can't put handcuffs on a ghost... :o sorry i had to.
[05:51] <goodmami> ghost: thanks for the help, but I think i've got the problem narrowed down between two identical systems
[05:51] <achandrashekar> bazhang: yes Im looking to write a completely automated kickstart script that uses php as a methodlogy to allow me install various operting systems including ubuntu...can you aid?
[05:51] <nickrud> Nubbie: I was looking for something to say but you topped me :(
[05:51] <boodah> ploom that worked, how did you know? and do i need to do anything to make it stick now?
[05:51] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: does the regular wireless ui allow you to choose a driver?  (going to check)
[05:51] <achandrashekar> there is my question..
[05:51] <ghost> Nubbie, yesh
[05:51] <achandrashekar> above
[05:51] <ghost> lol
[05:52] <astro76> achandrashekar: try #linux
[05:52] <StrangeCharm> goodmami - i was thinking something like the restricted drivers manager
[05:52] <jay-oh-en> everytime i startup my cvomputer it says this internal error failed to initialize HAL!
[05:52] <goodmami> hmm
[05:52] <goodmami> when i  try and run it, it says "your hardware does not need restricted drivers"
[05:52] <goodmami> i'll ask him to try
[05:52] <Nubbie> achandrashekar: that's easy, all you need to do is include images of your operating systems (OEM installations!), and a simple script to format and expand the images to the disk.
[05:53] <StrangeCharm> well, are you sure the computers are identical?
[05:53] <crazywulf_> I've been having a very strange problem lately.....   It seems when I transfer/download large files via the internet or lan, all the sudden my mouse will get *extremely* laggy and my IP will drop all together.      What could be causing t his?
[05:53] <night_slither> well i do have a question here, why does Ubuntu 7.10 not saving my screen resolution and hangs for so long at the beginning of my boot while 6 did not
[05:53] <achandrashekar> hmm..i just feel sleighted..by the fact that over 100 questions about how to install bcm43x stuff. and how to deal with ndiswrapper have been answered by me..but a simple help issue is treated with go look else where....hmm....okay whatever
[05:53] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: we both have a Lenovo Thinkpad x61t.  I have more ram and the Intel Turbo Memory
[05:53] <MrObvious> jay-oh-en: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75328
[05:53] <Nubbie> achandrashekar: make sure your disk has fdisk and dd on it, maybe gzip and you're set.
[05:53] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: actually, he might have the wlan card... lemme ask
[05:54] <ghost> achandrashekar, ugh, the bcm43xx
[05:54] <ghost> achandrashekar, that was the killing stroke that got me to stop using gentoo
[05:54] <vwfanatic> AVI / MPG files -- no video - only sound -- any suggestions?
[05:54] <ghost> vlc
[05:54] <vwfanatic> same thing
[05:54] <vwfanatic> :(
[05:54] <StrangeCharm> goodmami - it may be possible that he actually has *that* wireless card, and that is *actually* sucks
[05:54] <ghost> herm
[05:55] <ghost> vwfanatic, i know this is stupid but restart x serv?
[05:55] <Nubbie> achandrashekar: you have the wrong attitude in here. maybe you should stick to helping people, because you obviously don't take advice as well as you give it.
[05:55] <ghost> some times
[05:55] <MrObvious> achandrashekar: It's not that we don't like you and the help you put in here, but there are certain things that don't belong in here because the chatter generates confusion when you have 5 people at once needing to ask a question.
[05:55] <vwfanatic> ghost: are you referring to a complete reboot? or  CTRL+ALT+BKSP ? I've done that latter
[05:55] <MrObvious> achandrashekar: You're asking for job hunting advice, not operating system advice as far as I can tell, so that's why we're being this way.
[05:55] <ghost> achandrashekar, I don't think your infraction was a bad one. and looking at your question, I would ask in ##linux (and get the same kinda responce probably)
[05:55] <achandrashekar> Nubbie: thanks..you obviously know about attitude adjust...phsih....
[05:55] <MrObvious> achandrashekar: Obviously. :p
[05:56] <ghost> vwfanatic, maybe a reboot. Some times it works
[05:56] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: would it be possible that he could disable that WLAN card (if he has it) and use the built-in card?
[05:56] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: the WLAN card was an add-on option
[05:56] <vwfanatic> thanks, I'll be back if it doesn't. This install has PO'd me anyway, might just wipe it.
[05:56] <Greevous> I need to write a script that can e-mail a file at a certain time of day, but I don't know where to start...
[05:56] <soldats> achandrashekar, your question may be better suited for ##linux
[05:56] <vwfanatic> be back in a few
[05:56] <Nubbie> achandrashekar: if somebody tells you you're beyond the scope of the rules, take that advice and run with it. the more you sit in here and pout the less willing people will be to put up with it. that's all i'm saying. you're offtopic, take it where it belongs, in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:56] <soldats> achandrashekar, not to be mean though
[05:57] <StrangeCharm> goodmami - wait, you think there are two wireless cards in the machine?
[05:57] <goodmami> the WLAN card is an expansion... uses the PCI slot (same slot where i have the Turbo Memory)
[05:57] <MrObvious> Obviously OT doesn't belong in here. Just like you don't stick a cat in water unless you want to be scratched.
[05:57] <MrObvious> lol
[05:57] <achandrashekar> not really no..it pertains to some very specific ubuntu related issues not prevalent in the forums.. very specific to custom installs not handled by tools such as Reconstructor
[05:57] <crazywulf_> I've been having a very strange problem lately.....   It seems when I transfer/download large files via the internet or lan, all the sudden my mouse will get *extremely* laggy and my IP will drop all together.      What could be causing t his?  I opened up system monitor during these *attacks* and there's the resources seem normal.   Seems as if just my mouse and connection are affected
[05:58] <StrangeCharm> goodmami - what does he get on an iwconfig?
[05:58] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: excuse me.. i might have meant WWAN
[05:58] <MrObvious> crazywulf_: Guess: Your hard drive is being used so much it's lagging your system beyond recognition.
[05:58] <goodmami> hold on
[05:58] <Nubbie> crazywulf_: what program are you using for these transfers?
[05:59] <StrangeCharm> goodmami - that makes more sense, but should not interfere
[05:59] <achandrashekar> carzywulf: you could run a top while the your are transfering the download and monitor system resources. this might give you insight into a resource issue
[05:59] <falconer> crazywulf try wget.
[06:00] <pulicoti> hello there
[06:00] <falconer> hi
[06:00] <pulicoti> please can someone gimme a trick to solve the problem i having when i try to get on yahoo games?
[06:01] <Nubbie> Seveas: pwn'd that.
[06:01] <paulo> hello all.. i was hoping i'd get some help here..  i'm trying to boot of a RAID-0 (mdadm), i have a separate non-RAID boot partition, i get to the Ubuntu splash screen & the system sits for a few minutes then drops me to BusyBox, i did a cat /proc/mdstat and while all the correct modules were loaded, it seems mdadm hadn't done it's thing by the time the kernel tried to mount the root partition..  anyone else deal with this before?
[06:01] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: http://pastebin.osuosl.org/5054
[06:01] <Nubbie> pulicoti: do the yahoo games utilize shockwave?
[06:01] <pulicoti> the problem is with javas
[06:01] <goodmami> that's from his iwconfig... it's only eth1.  eth0 said "no wireless extensions"
[06:01] <falconer> pulicoto more infos
[06:01] <pulicoti> ok
[06:02] <StrangeCharm> goodmami - well, that supports the assertion that there is only one wlan card, whether or not there is a wwan card
[06:02] <pulicoti> it asks to upgrade the java
[06:02] <falconer> pulicoti, does java work, like at java.com?
[06:02] <goodmami> hmm
[06:02] <rafaelsoaresbr> in your opinion, whats the best iptables rules manager? firestarter, etc...
[06:02] <tommstein> what's with ctrl+tab not switching virtual desktops in ubuntu's kde like it always has in every other kde?
[06:02] <pulicoti> when i try to do it from the sun java i get the package for suse only
[06:02] <douglas> hello
[06:02] <nickrud> pulicoti: install sun-java6-plugin
[06:02] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: so is it possible to get his machine to use the iwl driver instead of the ipw driver?
[06:02] <nickrud> pulicoti: from the repos
[06:02] <douglas> i have a poblem with openoffice
[06:02] <pulicoti> i did but it didnt work
[06:02] <Nubbie> tommstein: you mean "alt" tab?
[06:02] <StrangeCharm> goodmami - i don't know
[06:03] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: heh... ok
[06:03] <nickrud> pulicoti: sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-javaplugin.so , choose sun
[06:03] <pulicoti> i id install sun_java plug in 6
[06:03] <tommstein> Nubbie, no, that changes between programs on the current desktop, ctrl+tab is supposed to switch between desktops
[06:03] <StrangeCharm> new gutsy install
[06:03] <StrangeCharm> encrypted on a raid-five
[06:03] <StrangeCharm> 'error loading os'
[06:03] <Xabriel> I've got a fresh install of gutsy, and I just set it up to dual boot with XP, and now gutsy isn't detecting any of the updates
[06:04] <vwfanatic> What's the command in Terminal to display the contents of say... /etc/fstab ?
[06:04] <nickrud> vwfanatic: cat /etc/fstab
[06:04] <vwfanatic> And my video still isn't working
[06:04] <falconer> ls
[06:04] <rafaelsoaresbr> tip of the day: disables network-manager :)
[06:04] <falconer> oh vat
[06:04] <falconer> cat
[06:04] <falconer> cat /etc/fstab
[06:04] <vwfanatic> thanks nickrud
[06:05] <vwfanatic> and falconer
[06:05] <Nubbie> vwfanatic: if you wish to edit that file, use nano.
[06:05] <pulicoti> thanx nickrud i will do it
[06:05] <genewitch> hey guys i wanted to thank you all for your help and support, but i have to install a non-debian OS for my touchpad to work
[06:05] <genewitch> :-(
[06:05] <nickrud> sudoedit is a nice quick way to nano a file
[06:05] <vwfanatic> I like nano!
[06:06] <nickrud> !synaptics | genewitch (not saying it will certainly help ... )
[06:06] <ubotu> genewitch (not saying it will certainly help ... ): For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[06:06] <genewitch> nickrud: Yah it's a kernel issue, nothing can be done easily
[06:06] <wikityler> My computer is locking up every 5-15 mins. i'm only able to run in reduced graphics mode. how do i diagnose the problem?
[06:06] <teste_teste> alguem fala portugues?
[06:06] <nickrud> genewitch: oh, an odd old one?
[06:06] <nickrud> genewitch: just nosy, that's me
[06:06] <astro76> !pt | teste_teste
[06:06] <ubotu> teste_teste: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[06:07] <vwfanatic> Okay, for some reason my AVI/MPG/WMV files will no longer display video. Tried VLC and a reboot. Running 7.10 Ubuntu. I did try to install some Video Editing/Capture, but they weren't what I needed, so I removed them. Since then, no video
[06:07] <jshewey> How can I get two different X sessions running so that can run myth on one videocard/monitor combo and kde on another?
[06:07] <genewitch> nickrud: No i'm on 7.10 ubuntu, it's a known issue (or so i've sorta read)
[06:07] <paulo> has anyone here gotten a mdadm RAID-0 as their root partition or know where there's a guide to setting it up?
[06:08] <Xabriel> anybody know how to force gutsy to update? even if it woln't detect any?
[06:08] <jshewey> paulo: ive got one running now.
[06:08] <bazhang> vwfanatic: sounds like when you uninstalled that video capture stuff you may have uninstalled other items important to your video viewing
[06:08] <Flannel> Xabriel: what do you mean?
[06:08] <jshewey> paulo: you will need to use the alt install cd, this can not be done using standard CD setup cd.
[06:08] <douglas> alguien habla spanish
[06:08] <nickrud> Xabriel: if there's nothing to upgrade, there's nothing to upgrade
[06:08] <vwfanatic> I'm thinking so also
[06:08] <bazhang> !es
[06:08] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:08] <Xabriel> but it's a fresh install, and i KNOW there's updates
[06:08] <jshewey> paulo: unless of course, you are using hardware RAID
[06:08] <douglas> thank!
[06:09] <bazhang> no worries :}
[06:09] <nickrud> Xabriel: system->admin->software sources, make sure the first four are enabled and the cdrom is not
[06:09] <paulo> jshewey: i used the alt cd to install to a single drive, now i've gotten 3 more drives and i'm trying to make them into a raid-0 & move my system over
[06:09] <paulo> jshewey: eventually expanding back onto the initial drive
[06:09] <rafaelsoaresbr> !firewall
[06:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:10] <jshewey> paulo: So, you want to add the origional drive into the raid array, making for a total of four?
[06:10] <Xabriel> nickrud, lol, I forgot about that :P
[06:10] <Xabriel> nickrud, thanks
[06:10] <paulo> jshewey: i am gonna keep a regular non-raid boot partition on each drive for the system to boot off (i don't think you can have /boot on a raid-0 or 5 md device, correct?)
[06:10] <nickrud> rafaelsoaresbr: you can search thru the bot with  /msg uboto factoid
[06:10] <Falstius> I have a tv capture card that uses the saa7134 modules.  To get sound I have to run sox, but this uses 10% of my 1.4GHz processor.  Is there a less cpu intensive solution? (Running Gutsy)
[06:10] <nickrud> Xabriel: np
[06:10] <julz> my gnome-panel fails to startup when i boot. does anyone know how to fix this? i'm running xubuntu 7.10
[06:11] <paulo> jshewey: well, eventually, my problem right now is i have the 3 drives in a raid-0, my fstab and grub config all set up, but when i try to boot with md0 as my root partition the system stops for a few minutes, then drops to BusyBox
[06:12] <paulo> jshewey: if i cat /proc/mdstat it hasn't created any devices yet
[06:12] <yao_ziyuan> kubuntu's top priority should be east asian language display (fonts) and input (input methods)
[06:12] <yao_ziyuan> period.
[06:12] <yao_ziyuan> or bill gates will still be alive
[06:12] <bazhang> yao_ziyuan: issues with scim?
[06:13] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, you are talking it with ubuntu being defaulted to english
[06:13] <venger> is there a log that would tell me why I get "Desktop effects could not be enabled" when I change Appearance Preferences to Extra?  DRI and COMPOSITE is enable according to my Xorg.O.log and fglrxinfo looks good
[06:13] <paulo> jshewey: so i assume it means mdadm hasn't created /dev/md0 by the time the kernel is trying to mount the root partition.. that's just my guess tho', it's my first time setting this up
[06:13] <yao_ziyuan> bazhang: chinese support should be installed as easily as in ubuntu -- just check "Complex script input" and the input methods are there
[06:13] <VvWolverinevV> hi, i have a question about typing in terminal, how do i go up a line?
[06:13] <bazhang> yao_ziyuan: I'm using kubuntu and no worries here
[06:14] <VvWolverinevV> im able to delete the characters in one line but not the previous one
[06:14] <jshewey> paulo: some things to try: mount your md device from a boot disk and chroot into it to see if you get a working system. If this works, then try manually assembling your md array from busybox and then chrooting into it and see if you can pull up a working system. If this works, everthing is probably in order, you just need to rebuild your initrd file
[06:14] <vwfanatic> bazhang: what do you suggest about the video?
[06:14] <yao_ziyuan> bazhang: i'm speaking from a commoner's perspecive
[06:14] <ploom> VvWolverinevV, terminal, once there is bash answering you, there is no way to delete previous rows
[06:14] <jshewey> paulo: I'm guessing it's your initrd file that needs to be rebuilt.
[06:14] <VvWolverinevV> ploom: no bash answer
[06:14] <nickrud> lol, yao_ziyuan I can relate to that :)
[06:15] <ploom> VvWolverinevV, you should try nano as editor or vi
[06:15] <jshewey> paulo: it probably does not have the modifed mdadm.conf and fstab files.
[06:15] <bazhang> vwfanatic: eh. well probably need to reinstall any of the things that got uninstalled
[06:15] <bazhang> yao_ziyuan: a commoner? same here :}
[06:15] <lancer> so bored here
[06:15] <jshewey> paulo: you can double check by cating these files from busybox
[06:15] <mattetch> hello my name is matt, and ive been gettin nothing but trouble trying to get ubuntu installed on my laptop,im not a newb at this, actually its a breeze on my other computer
[06:15] <fanin> hi all
[06:15] <nickrud> lancer: the wiki could use some help ;)
[06:15] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, who is commoner?
[06:16] <yao_ziyuan> and i don't want to read any "quickstart guide"
[06:16] <yao_ziyuan> ploom: commoner = general user
[06:16] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, ubuntu users group is like a commune
[06:16] <goodmami> StrangeCharm: yeah well no luck on the iwl4965 front.  thanks for all your help though
[06:16] <yao_ziyuan> ploom: commoner = average joe
[06:16] <nickrud> mattetch: what issues in particular?
[06:16] <bazhang> true but waaaaay offtopci
[06:16] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, you either consider yourself blonging here and do things in ubuntu way or make your own operating system
[06:16] <mattetch> i have both a copy of x32 and x64, both crash after install with no graphics
[06:16] <julz> Hi. Gnome-panel fails to startup on a new installation of Gutsy. Is there a way to fix this? I had the same problem with Fiesty...
[06:16] <paulo> jshewey: okay, before i reboot to try that let me be sure..  i tried to do mdadm --auto-detect from BusyBox and it said "CREATE user root not found"..  do you mean to mount md from a LiveCD or from BusyBox..  also as far as rebuilding initrd, does update-initramfs do that or do i need to do something else too?
[06:17] <yao_ziyuan> wait,
[06:17] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, by the way - ubuntu way is almost the same as debian way
[06:17] <yao_ziyuan> i'm speaking in the wrong channel
[06:17] <yao_ziyuan> i'm talking about kubuntu
[06:17] <nickrud> mattetch: what video chip do you have?  lspci | grep -i vga will tell you if you're not exactly sure
[06:17] <bazhang> offtopic there too yao_ziyuan
[06:17] <mattetch> intergrated nvidia
[06:17] <yao_ziyuan> ubuntu's east asian language display and input is perfect - except that some chinese characters like "you" have a different font in gedit
[06:18] <nickrud> mattetch: exactly which? Matters
[06:18] <yao_ziyuan> for ubuntu,
[06:18] <jshewey> paulo: update-initramfs will update this.
[06:18] <yao_ziyuan> ubuntu's top priority should be integrating more pretty gtk2 themes
[06:18] <mattetch> i sec
[06:18] <bazhang> :{
[06:18] <yao_ziyuan> ubuntu's default theme is ok,
[06:18] <julz> Can a live CD do a repair install? is there such thing?
[06:18] <interceptor> !ru
[06:18] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[06:18] <yao_ziyuan> but people need more pretty themes to switch between
[06:18] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, then this is not ubuntu your're actually talking, but GTK toolkit in general
[06:18] <kahrytan> julz➲  No
[06:18] <interceptor> #ubuntu-ru
[06:19] <yao_ziyuan> ploom: i'm talking about integrating more pretty gtk2 themes from gnome-look.org
[06:19] <jshewey> paulo: you need to try assembling your RAID array from a live CD. then you need to mount proc and tempfs. then chroot to the mounted array.
[06:19] <mattetch> nvidia geforce go 6150
[06:19] <kahrytan> julz➲  but you use live cd to repair ubuntu.
[06:19] <julz> kahrytan: k thanks, guess illhave to go the hard way lol
[06:19] <yao_ziyuan> ploom: those most downloaded or highest rated, like Aurora and Nimbus
[06:19] <kahrytan> julz➲  what's wrong with the install?
[06:19] <paulo> ok
[06:19] <jshewey> paulo: if this works, you have manually booted your system. if this does not you have problems with your drives.
[06:20] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, in case you have bugs to report, then go for it!
[06:20] <rampeltilsken> wah....how to become expert in ubuntu
[06:20] <yao_ziyuan> otherwise, ubuntu is universally usable now
[06:20] <julz> kahrytan: haha thats what i mean t lol. the gnome palen never starts up, i have just got a desktop. same problem i had on fiesty followed me to gutsy. thankyou :)
[06:20] <mattetch> hello my name is matt, and ive been gettin nothing but trouble trying to get ubuntu installed on my laptop,im not a newb at this, actually its a breeze on my other computer
[06:20] <mattetch> nvidia geforce go 6150
[06:20] <jshewey> paulo: if you can do this, then repeat the process from busybox. If it works with busybox, you know that it is simply a file configuration problem. If it does not (perhaps you recieve a segfault or something) then you know it is a problem with the busybox environment.
[06:21] <yao_ziyuan> however, it seems people in general are just ok with an operating system with one visual style, like win95/98/2000/xp
[06:21] <kahrytan> julz➲  Mount the hard drive and read the logs
[06:21] <paulo> jshewey: okay cool..  so i'll boot off a liveCD, partition my drives up, create the RAID-0 array, copy my current system to this array, then mount proc and tempfs and chroot to the raid-0
[06:21] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, the best thing to do about gtk2 themes is to make them work your way too or even make your own ideal one
[06:21] <paulo> jshewey: how do i know if there's a problem at that point?  i'll get errors from chroot?
[06:21] <yao_ziyuan> those who do care for pretty visual styles will automatically go to gnome-look.org
[06:21] <ploom> yao_ziyuan, the second best thing (when you feel not being able to do so) would be to report bugs
[06:22] <nickrud> mattetch: hm, that's supposed to be an easy one. The way I understand it you have an install on it, but it freezes with something about rc.local  [OK] on the screen
[06:22] <mattetch> i need help
[06:22] <napster> If I forgot my root password, how could I retrieve my password?
[06:22] <kahrytan> !root| napster➲
[06:22] <ubotu> napster➲: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:22] <paulo> jshewey: sorry to be so out of the loop.. just switched back to Linux after a 13 year hiatus
[06:22] <mattetch> it just hard crashes
[06:22] <julz> kahrytan: can i do this without the terminal? when i load the terminal it logs me out :S
[06:22] <nickrud> mattetch: hard crash doesn't really say anything, to help with troubleshooting we need more detail
[06:23] <kahrytan> julz➲  doh. you could do it from bash. but try loading xsession
[06:23] <mattetch> it boots but right before getting in to a gui environment
[06:23] <mattetch> it crashes hard ,
[06:23] <nickrud> mattetch:  what's the last thing on the screen?
[06:24] <julz> kahrytan: bugger, i have to go pick my sister up. thanks for the help, i might catchya you on someother time if i still have th eprobkem
[06:24] <kahrytan> julz➲  If you reach GDM, change startup options just to xsession or something other then gnome.
[06:24] <mattetch> multiple colors streamed like tyedye
[06:24] <nickrud> ah, that's a hard crash all right
[06:24] <kahrytan> julz➲  it load xwindows and from there, you can use terminal to see if gnome starts there
[06:24] <mattetch> my screens starts to buzz
[06:25] <mattetch> computers fans turn off and i get a temp sensor alarm
[06:25] <nickrud> mattetch: you have more than one screen plugged in? unplug the external monitor
[06:25] <mattetch> its a laptop
[06:25] <nickrud> mattetch: you said screens
[06:25] <mattetch> typo
[06:25] <ozzloy> nickrud: i think that was a ytop
[06:25] <nickrud> ok
[06:25] <Nubbie> mattetch: maybe you need to have your laptop serviced... perhaps the fan is dysfunctional?
[06:25] <StrangeCharm> new gutsy install
[06:26] <StrangeCharm> encrypted on a raid-five
[06:26] <StrangeCharm> 'error loading os'
[06:26] <nickrud> ozzloy: seen something similar on an install with the external plugged in once
[06:26] <mattetch> i think the machines ok, because it runs windoze fine, but wont run any other os
[06:26] <paulo> jshewey!!  :'(
[06:26] <nickrud> mattetch: but the live cd works fine?
[06:26] <kr00l> w can i mount a virtual .iso?
[06:26] <StrangeCharm> first two lines entered / someone exits IRC / break in my haiku
[06:27] <kr00l> how can i mount a virtual .iso?
[06:27] <nickrud> !iso | kr00l
[06:27] <ubotu> kr00l: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:27] <paulo> kr00l: gmount-iso has a nice gui
[06:27] <mattetch> it wont load the live cd, it will run the installer, but no more than that
[06:27] <StrangeCharm> kr001: gmount iso?
[06:27] <StrangeCharm> kr001 not a command, and app
[06:27] <ozzloy> StrangeCharm: don't worry about it, i got /ignore QUITS
[06:28] <kr00l> I need help with my audio. I have a 5.1 onboard audio and my microphone doesn't work.
[06:28] <StrangeCharm> ozzloy: that makes me feel better. unfortunately, it doesn't help this massive paperweight under my bed. though, i am considering taking only in haiku for a while
[06:29] <ozzloy> StrangeCharm: that was totally not a haiku, not even a little bit
[06:30] <ozzloy> StrangeCharm: though the last one was quite amusing and quick
[06:30] <StrangeCharm> ozzloy - considering usually indicates that i haven't started yet :p
[06:30] <bazhang> please join #ubuntu-haiku
[06:30] <xsfr> command to open a sudo file manager? (gksudo natrulis)?
[06:30] <Flannel> xsfr: gksu nautilus, yes
[06:30] <nickrud> bazhang: there was a pre existing #ubuntu-haiku ??
[06:31] <StrangeCharm> bazhang, nickrud - actually, there's already someone there
[06:31] <bazhang> nickrud: just a joke--seeing how offtopic most people seem to be today
[06:31] <bazhang> StrangeCharm: that is funny :}
[06:31] <nickrud> bazhang: and I've been trying to be good too
[06:32] <bazhang> as have we all nickrud :}
[06:32] <StrangeCharm> bazhang, his response to my entry was 'what the f is this' and mine 'ubuntu haiku / discussing human linux / speech somewhat impaired'
[06:32] <StrangeCharm> oh, he's gone :(
[06:32] <ozzloy> hahaha
[06:33] <bazhang> StrangeCharm: we are all dangerously offtopic today :}
[06:34] <StrangeCharm> fleeting alt channel / only one participant / lonely offtopic
[06:34] <bazhang> yao_ziyuan: you should consider joining ubuntu-marketing; seriously
[06:34]  * nickrud finds StrangeCharm an appropriate nick
[06:34] <yao_ziyuan> bazhang: haha
[06:34] <bazhang> yao_ziyuan: no really
[06:35] <Nubbie> it seem slike everybody went to bed anyways.
[06:35] <Nubbie> who cares.
[06:35] <StrangeCharm> flamsmark was my name / made up on the spot one day / not so expressive
[06:35] <yao_ziyuan> too often people are missing top priorities
[06:36] <JSharp> hmm, I recently did a clean install of Hardy and now I'm having some trouble getting my wacom tablet to work, I've updated the installation and am current with the repository. When I add the InputDevice sections back to xorg.conf and readd the serverlayout section, the x server crashes and restarts GDM when I log in, but the tablet seems to work okay before that
[06:36] <UberDay> can someone help me every time i go to boot up and connect to the net hitting wired network my pc freezes up can anyone help me figure out why or tell me how to fix this?
[06:36] <JSharp> has anyone encountered something similar?
[06:36] <nickrud> !ubuntu+1 | JSharp
[06:36] <ubotu> JSharp: hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[06:36] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 JSharp
[06:36] <JSharp> thank you
[06:36] <co_be100> lkhjlkj
[06:37] <yao_ziyuan> how do linux pcs sell in the US market?
[06:37] <yao_ziyuan> how much market share do they have now?
[06:37] <nickrud> yao_ziyuan: probably .001%
[06:37] <spee> i cant change the brightness of my lcd screen using the function keys on my laptop
[06:37] <yao_ziyuan> nickrud: why?
[06:37] <spee> oh yea i forgot nobody in this channel ever answers questions
[06:37] <nickrud> yao_ziyuan: but #ubuntu-marketing probably has real numbers
[06:37] <arjuna> what is a alternative to amule?
[06:37] <spee> bigest channel i know of on this network and nobody answers questions
[06:37] <nickrud> spee: neither can I
[06:37] <spee> most questions asked per hour though i sure
[06:38] <spee> nickrud can you change your volume? i can do that suprisingly
[06:38] <yao_ziyuan> thank u for hinting that channel
[06:38] <Profanephobia> !patience
[06:38] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:38] <nickrud> spee: screen brightness is the only thing that doesn't work (actually, I can do max bright and max dark)
[06:39] <^TheCrono> i have a spare 17gb..i want to give it its own ext3 partition..can the mount point be somethign made up like /extra/?
[06:39] <spee> nickrud using the function keys on your laptop?
[06:39] <nickrud> spee: yes
[06:39] <^TheCrono> ive used /home/ already
[06:39] <StrangeCharm> spee is impatient / belittling the channel / questions answered
[06:39] <spee> it goes to max bright when i plug in, and dims to max dim when i unplug
[06:39] <bazhang> spee: you should check power settings for that iirc
[06:39] <spee> StrangeCharm i usually go to other channels just because this channel is so slow on answering
[06:39] <nickrud> ^TheCrono: you can mount it as /data , or maybe /home/data , or /home/<you>/data
[06:39] <crwlr> hey i'm having a brainfart and can't remember how to setup a workgroup
[06:40] <yao_ziyuan> have a problem with this: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Aurora+Gtk+Engine?content=56438
[06:40] <arjuna> what is a alternative to amule?
[06:40] <yao_ziyuan> i only can use Aurora's widgets
[06:40] <^TheCrono>  i can do /spare/ ?
[06:40] <spee> does anyone know how i can make fsck run verbosely during the startup sequence? i have the splash screen disabled
[06:40] <yao_ziyuan> not its window titles
[06:40] <nickrud> ^TheCrono: any name you like
[06:40] <^TheCrono> ok
[06:40] <spee> and fsck doesnt say much while its running
[06:40] <^TheCrono> thx
[06:40] <^TheCrono> i'm installing kubuntu for the first time :D...but kubuntu channel; is busy
[06:40] <bazhang> spee: you also have to consider that this is the middle of night for many folks
[06:41] <nemilar> or at least, for the part of the world that matters
[06:41] <bazhang> !p2p | arjuna
[06:41] <ubotu> arjuna: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[06:41] <Thugacation> why install kubuntubu over ubuntu
[06:41] <Thugacation> why?
[06:41] <^TheCrono> i'm not
[06:41] <pulicoti> Bloody hell yahoo games asks for java 6-3 and sends me to download it to the sun site, but thats good for suse not for ubuntu.I have installed sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin, after that i did sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-javaplugin.so and it says : there is only one program which provides firefox - javaplugin.so (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so) . Nothing to configure.
[06:41] <^TheCrono> i'm installing kubuntu from an empty HD
[06:41] <krub> spee fsck  do not normally become verbose lest it has to do some repair
[06:41] <spee> Thugacation that is a good question
[06:41] <Nubbie> Thugacation: there is no explanation. lol.
[06:41] <StrangeCharm> spee: popularity / with many novice users / there are ups and downs
[06:41] <^TheCrono> but no oen could answer me in kubuntu
[06:41] <yao_ziyuan> currently i use this theme: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nimbus+%28+Ubuntu+7.10+%29?content=70212
[06:41] <spee> krub i remember seeing a status bar and also having it tell me what partition its looking at while its scanning
[06:41] <yao_ziyuan> very good
[06:42] <Nubbie> Thugacation: i guess because most people can't type "sudo apt-get install kde-base" into a terminal. D8 that's my guess.
[06:42] <spee> krub the output is very minimal while it is checking during the startup sequence
 and ubot thank you. how did ubot type so fucking fast?
[06:42] <bazhang> I thought it was kubuntu-desktop
[06:42] <vwfanatic> Is there a way to "Repair" an installation? Basically making Gutsy check itself?
[06:42] <bazhang> !ohmy | arjuna
[06:42] <ubotu> arjuna: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:42] <Nubbie> bazhang: or that.
[06:42] <Thugacation> HOLY SHIT!
[06:43] <crwlr> bazhang!  dude, i forgot how to setup my computer on a workgroup...can ya help me out, buddy?
[06:43] <FactTech> Question: Will "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" give the opportunity to reset the keyboard type? Is there a better way to do this?
[06:43] <spee> StrangeCharm yea some of the other channels are full of gurus and have less novices so questions are answered faster than they can be asked its very nice
[06:43] <Nubbie> arjuna: ubotu is a robot. it doesn't "type". however it does think.
[06:43] <spee> robots have no feelings
[06:43] <Thugacation> nah it dont think neitha
[06:43] <Thugacation> it just chills
[06:43] <crwlr> !ubotu workgroup
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workgroup - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <spee> unless you give them hugs
[06:43] <pulicoti> can someone help me with java on yahoo games?
[06:43] <crwlr> !ubotu networking
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <crwlr> !ubotu network
[06:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:44] <spee> !ubotu butts
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about butts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <crwlr> wow...he dont have what i want
[06:44] <StrangeCharm> spee when questions answered / faster than they can be asked / time trav'ling gurus
[06:44] <jussi01> !botabuse > crwlr
[06:44] <Nubbie> lol.
[06:44] <Nubbie> StrangeCharm: write a book.
[06:44] <spee> StrangeCharm yea thats what im saying.. its awesome
[06:44] <crwlr> not bot abuse, i am trying to find something very simple but i cant remember, jussi01
[06:44] <jussi01> crwlr: great, but use /msg ubotu then
[06:44] <bazhang> vwfanatic: I would recommend uninstalling the restricted package and reinstalling it; no telling what got pulled when you removed the video capture stuff
[06:45] <UberDay> can someone help me fix this issue almost every time i click on wired network to connect to the net after i have booted up my pc into ubuntu it freezes up my computer can anyone help me figure out why its doing this or how i can fix it?
[06:45] <spee> !pee > StrangeCharm
[06:45] <Spenser309> FactTech:  Yes
[06:45] <FactTech> Spenser309: Thank you.
[06:45] <arjuna> how do i connect to networks and servers on mldonkey?
[06:45] <Spenser309> FactTech: there is probably a better way but this is a very common way
[06:46] <StrangeCharm> Nubbie: unusual speech / still carries the same meaning / a personal game
[06:46] <krub> UberDay:  which ubuntu version do you have?
[06:46] <UberDay> 7.10
[06:46] <StrangeCharm> !botabuse > crwlr#
[06:46] <UberDay> gutsy gibbon
[06:46] <StrangeCharm> !botabuse > crwlr
[06:46] <Thugacation> !botabuse | your mom
[06:46] <ubotu> your mom: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[06:47] <stdin> !ops | Thugacation abusing the bot
[06:47] <ozzloy> does ubuntu 7.10 livecd have ntfs write?
[06:47] <krub> UberDay: you dont need to click anything after boot, if you have setup your networking in /etc/network/interfaces for auto connect at boot
[06:47] <Thugacation> no pleaseeeeeeeeeeee
[06:47] <Nubbie> StrangeCharm: you have succeeded in blowing my mind.
[06:47] <FactTech> StrangeCharm, a question / Does working in haiku form / help the newbies?
[06:47] <Thugacation> i didnt mean it
[06:47] <Spenser309> ozzloy: yes
[06:47] <ubotu> Thugacation abusing the bot: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[06:47] <UberDay> nope i havent done that
[06:47] <arjuna> how do i connect to networks and servers on mldonkey?
[06:47] <crwlr> do you mind, strangecharm, i am msging ubotu right now.
[06:47] <ozzloy> Spenser309: \0/
[06:47] <Thugacation> why you do that for
[06:47] <bazhang> bye Thugacation
[06:47] <UberDay> how can i do that im new to ubuntu and still geting the hang of it
[06:48] <krub> !who | UberDay
[06:48] <ubotu> UberDay: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[06:48] <Nubbie> w00t!
[06:48] <FactTech> StrangeCharm: ... much? :) (missed a syllable)
[06:48] <Spenser309> !faq
[06:48] <ubotu> A list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[06:48] <pulicoti> can someone help me with the java on ubuntu 7.10?
[06:48] <redwyrm> nalioth, that was cool :)
[06:48] <Spenser309> !java | pulicoti
[06:48] <ubotu> pulicoti: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[06:48] <krub> pulicoti: what is the issue?
[06:48] <pulicoti> yahoo games asks for java 6-3 and sends me to download it to the sun site, but thats good for suse not for ubuntu.I have installed sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin, after that i did sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-javaplugin.so and it says : there is only one program which provides firefox - javaplugin.so (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so) . Nothing to configure.
[06:48] <StrangeCharm> FactTech: newbies want gurus / ancient and learned masters / haiku suffices
[06:49] <pulicoti> and then i cannot get in
[06:49] <UberDay> krub i was speaking to you sir
[06:49] <pulicoti> same error
[06:49] <krub> pulicoti am not even aware of such java 6.3
[06:49] <pulicoti> well it asks to download it
[06:49] <krub> UberDay: how would i know?
[06:49] <jshewey> paulo: you still there, sorry had to take care of some stuff. The errors should occur with mdadm. if you can assemble the array, there should be no reason why chroot won't work
[06:49] <StrangeCharm> Nubbie: minds are precious things / at least with an explosion / there was something there
[06:50] <UberDay> your the one telling me. that it should auto connect on bootup
[06:50] <Spenser309> pulicoti:  can you give us a url to check out?
[06:50] <pulicoti> oki wait
[06:50] <krub> !who | UberDay
[06:50] <ubotu> UberDay: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[06:50] <Schedel> hi. how can i increase the bitrate of lame to 128?
[06:50] <UberDay> you krub
[06:51] <krub> UberDay: i will miss your responses, no prefix with  my nick, i  will ignore
[06:51] <FactTech> Question: I've been rebuilding older computers, wiping the drives, installing Ubuntu (or Xubuntu), and giving them away in my community. I've got one machine that's extremely low-spec... I don't think even Xubuntu will do the trick. Any recommendations for lightweight distros that would make sense to an Ubuntu user?
[06:51] <UberDay> ackk this is annoying you all have a nice night/day ill ask my questions in the forum from now on
[06:51] <Spenser309> Schedel: man lame lol. okay i dont know but if your interested in reading I can guarentee its in there somewhere
[06:51] <Schedel> Spenser309: thank you.
[06:51] <rekon> FactTech, How low are the specs you are talking about?
[06:51] <StrangeCharm> FactTech: also, one more thing / within the haiku verse-form / endings are disjoint
[06:51] <krub> FactTech: look into damn small linux
[06:52] <bazhang> FactTech: fluxbuntu might do it; #fluxbuntu can tell you more
[06:52] <FactTech> rekon It's like a 233 MHz processor and only has 32MB RAM.
[06:52] <FactTech> bazhang Thank you.
[06:52] <pulicoti> ok and then on any game
[06:52] <krub> FactTech:  dsl  only have 50Meg hd minimum required
[06:53] <FactTech> krub I looked at DSL but it seems very customized. I was worried that most of the software I recognize wouldn't even run. Is it debian-based?
[06:53] <Spenser309> pullicoti:  did you post a url?
[06:53] <StrangeCharm> new gutsy install / encrypted on a raid-five / 'error loading os'
[06:53] <c0mp13371331337_> So.... who is this 'HAL' fellow, and why does he insist on failing to initialize in Gutsy installed on a VM?
[06:53] <Flannel> FactTech: Check out the distros that are designed for older systems.  Like delilinux, or even just an older debian
[06:53] <pulicoti> http://www.yahoo.com/
[06:53] <bazhang> FactTech: if you are not stuck on ubuntu there are tiny distros that run on that little; dsl, puppy linux and tinyme; www.distrowatch.com has a rundown
[06:53] <Spenser309> ok
[06:53] <krub> FactTech: i dont recall what it is based on, it uses busy box
[06:53] <xsfr> where is the libboost-dev package installed to..? what directory? /usr/include/boost/?
[06:53] <pulicoti> you have to fill the form to get on a game
[06:54] <FactTech> Flannel bazhang krub -- I'll just have to take the plunge and try some of those. Thanks for the pointers.
[06:54] <Griz64> Any ebox users handy? I installed it and now the box won't go out to the net.
[06:54] <timfrost> !info hal | c0mp13371331337
[06:54] <ubotu> c0mp13371331337: hal (source: hal): Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.9.1-6ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 330 kB, installed size 1312 kB
[06:54] <krub> Griz64: what is ebox? emachines?
[06:54] <StrangeCharm> after a few tries / at at an encrypted install / what is the right way?
[06:55] <pulicoti> http://games.yahoo.com/games/front here
[06:55] <bazhang> FactTech: good hunting! :}
[06:55] <Spenser309> pullicoti: which game in particular?
[06:55] <pulicoti> spades
[06:55] <pulicoti> card game
[06:55] <xsfr> where is the libboost-dev package installed to..? what directory? /usr/include/boost/?
[06:55] <pulicoti> any game there requires java
[06:56] <nickrud> xsfr:   dpkg -L libboost-dev  will tell you
[06:56] <Spenser309> wow that captcha was tough
[06:56] <xsfr> nickrud, it cuts half of it off
[06:57] <c0mp13371331337_> timfrost - Thanks, although not sure why it's not working.  Well... that's not entirely correct, it's not working because vbox is software that's emulating hardware, or at least trying to in this case.  Is there a fix for this issue?
[06:57] <nickrud> xsfr: cuts half of it off?
[06:57] <xsfr> its so long
[06:57] <Spenser309> pulicoti: that captcha was tough took me 10 tries
[06:57] <xsfr> i need the top half
[06:57] <xsfr> it's not visible as i've gone too far down
[06:58] <pulicoti> ok
[06:58] <nickrud> xsfr: try  dpkg -L libboost-dev | less , thtat will let you page through it (although you can scroll back in gnome-terminal)
[06:58] <Schedel> Spenser309: cannot manage it with lame. my problem is: i want to convert my CD with Kaudiocreator into some mp3 files. therefore i also installed lame. i makes my mp3s now with 48 kb but i want 128. how can i manage that?
[06:58] <Griz64> Any ebox users handy? I installed it and now the box won't go out to the net.
[06:58] <pulicoti> i could fix it with suse 10.2
[06:58] <pulicoti> not on ubuntu
[06:58] <krub> Griz64: what is ebox? emachines? can you pastebin your route -n  and ifconfig results?
[06:58] <Spenser309> hmm.  It's not working for me.  Never even loads at all
[06:58] <c0mp13371331337_> Griz64, ebox, or vbox (VirtualBox)?
[06:58] <timfrost> c0mp13371331337_: Are you trying to run box inside vmware?  From what I have seen, it is difficult to get two layers of virtualisation to work
[06:59] <nickrud> Griz64: /usr/share/doc/ebox will have some info most likely, and you can configure it in /etc/ebox
[06:59] <Spenser309> pulicoti: chess worked fine but not spades
[06:59] <pulicoti> so it was asking for java?
[06:59] <pulicoti> and no i have tried chess indeed the same error
[07:00] <Spenser309> pulicoti: it stayed completely blank on my machine
[07:00] <pulicoti> omg
[07:00] <Griz64> krub, no. that is part of the issue. i can't get out to the net to do anything and vmware isn't allowing me to  cp/paste  for some reason. Also, ebox is a configuration (web based) for systems/servers.
[07:00] <blackmask> hiiiiii
[07:00] <c0mp13371331337_> timfrost - Oh, nonono, sorry for the confusion, on my physical computer (A Dell (I know, I know...)) I have Gutsy installed.  I just installed Gutsy in Vbox, and HAL craps all over the screen when I log in.
[07:00] <crwlr> alright, i just messed with the portmap and now i can see my laptop from my laptop and my desktop but i cannot see my desktop on either my laptop or my desktop
[07:00] <blackmask> ljh
[07:00] <Spenser309> pulicoti: I guess my computer install is worse of than yours
[07:01] <crwlr> any ideas on how i can see my desktop over the network?
[07:01] <pulicoti> the way i have fixed it with suse was just downloading and installing the java required
[07:01] <quaal> anyone know how to save to a samba share in the gnome saveto window
[07:01] <pulicoti> buits weird
[07:01] <timfrost> c0mp13371331337_: sorry.  I don't use vbox.  I have vmware and do testing there,so I can't help with vbox
[07:02] <Spenser309> pulicoti: are you using firefox 3?
[07:02] <pulicoti> 2.0011
[07:03] <vincent_> Hello All! anyone know how to fix a read error in pidgin?
[07:03] <Spenser309> pulicoti: it should just work.  hmm I wish my install was working and I could verify this bug.
[07:03] <c0mp13371331337_> timfrost - No worries, I suppose that's what I get for shying away from anything requiring a serial number... ;-)  Thank you.
[07:03] <Griz64> krub, route -n AND ifconfig are right, for this network. it DOES get dns, just no packets transfer when i try to apt-get {whatever} or wget a package.
[07:03] <pulicoti> gr
[07:04] <Spenser309> pulicoti: open a terminal and type $ which java
[07:04] <Griz64> nickrud, and the config files in /etc really have nothing to do with route of net traffic.
[07:04] <StrangeCharm> c0mp13371331337_: how ironic, given your name :p
[07:04] <GeorgeA> I have this in my /etc/fstab: "/media/BackupServer/hi"	"/home/ftp/ServerHD/hi"	ext3	ro,bind 0	0 - yet it's not linking it on reboot, both folders exist, and if I manually type: sudo mount -o bind /media/BackupServer/hi /media/ftp/ServerHD/hi - it works fine.
[07:04] <pulicoti> java is 6
[07:04] <Schedel> Spenser309: cannot manage it with lame. my problem is: i want to convert my CD with Kaudiocreator into some mp3 files. therefore i also installed lame. i makes my mp3s now with 48 kb but i want 128. how can i manage that?
[07:04] <nickrud> Griz64: nope, early on I was looking at you wanting external access to ebox
[07:04] <pulicoti> i did insdtall it through synaptics
[07:05] <Spenser309> pulicoti: what did the command say?
[07:06] <c0mp13371331337_> StrangeCharm - Now, does the irony lie in the implications that a user with my nic would be able to resolve such an issue, or that my nic is serial-number-like?
[07:06] <Spenser309> Schedel:  Kaudiocreator hmm.  I'm not sure.  Here ill install it really quick and see if I can help
[07:06] <Griz64> nickrud, oh. no. sorry. maybe i didn't make myself clear. i can't get OUT to the world (ftp/http/wgt/apt-get/etc) FROM the box now that ebox is installed. And stopping the service doesn't help either.
[07:06] <misc--> hello - is it possible to install ubuntu remotely over some vnc session like you can with centos?
[07:06] <nickrud> Griz64: I saw that, and I am a networking putz.
[07:06] <pulicoti> Usage: java [-options] class [args...]
[07:06] <pulicoti>            (to execute a class)
[07:06] <pulicoti>    or  java [-options] -jar jarfile [args...]
[07:06] <pulicoti>            (to execute a jar file)
[07:06] <pulicoti> where options include:
[07:06] <pulicoti>     -d32          use a 32-bit data model if available
[07:06] <FloodBot3> pulicoti: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:07] <Griz64> c0mp13371331337_, and it's  ebox  not  vbox
[07:07] <StrangeCharm> c0mp13371331337_: especially given the *triple* suffix. it's like herr doktor doktor doktor jones not knowing anything about archeology
[07:07] <Schedel> would be nice. but there is no menu where i can switch the bit rate. so maybe change the rate of the encoder permanently?
[07:07] <Schedel> Spenser309: would be nice. but there is no menu where i can switch the bit rate. so maybe change the rate of the encoder permanently?
[07:07] <Spenser309> Schedel:  I'm really no sure im installing it now
[07:07] <zcat[1]> misc--: I would think that you should be able to boot the live CD, enable vns server, then do the resat of the install remotely... is that what you mean?
[07:08] <zcat[1]> *vnc server
[07:08] <Schedel> Spenser309: LAME is the encoder. and i want always 128 bit. but that i not default.
[07:08] <misc--> zcat[1]: yeah that's right. Except it does not have vnc installed by default. I tried to apt-get it but it fails and crashes (insuficient memory)
[07:08] <pulicoti> sorry
[07:09] <zcat[1]> it doesn't? system > preferences > remote desktop?
[07:09] <pulicoti> pasted too much
[07:09] <Spenser309> Schedel:  did you see this line. lame --preset standard --tt %{title} --ta %{artist} --tl %{albumtitle} --ty %{year} --tn %{number} --tg %{genre} %f %o
[07:09] <zcat[1]> I'd have to bnoot it to check.. and I don't have a free machine handy
[07:09] <c0mp13371331337_> StrangeCharm - Guilty, as charged!  Perhaps her doktor doktor doktor jones would be a more appropriate nic, although I have a feeling I'd get flamed more than I do now for such a long nic.....
[07:10] <krub> Griz4:  can you pastebin your route -n  and ifconfig results?
[07:10] <Spenser309> i think the part you need to change has to do with --preset standard
[07:10] <jackdaw> word
[07:10] <khaotik> how do i check to see what kind of modem i have
[07:10] <misc--> zcat[1]: oh wow... I didn't know. Actually I'm trying to guide someone over the phone with it... I'll get him to try that
[07:10] <krub> Griz64:  can you pastebin your route -n  and ifconfig results?
[07:10] <zcat[1]> misc--: won't help much if he's behind NAT though!
[07:10] <Griz64> krub, no.
[07:10] <StrangeCharm> c0mp13371331337_: the trick is that if people giggle at your nick, they probably won't ban you
[07:10] <Griz64> krub, there is no access to the net, therefore it can't go out to pastebin or anywhere else.
[07:11] <krub>  Griz64 you are chatting now with me right? so you have access to the net
[07:11] <pulicoti> sorry for the flood
[07:11] <misc--> zcat[1]: that's ok, have got that side of it taken care of
[07:11] <Schedel> Spenser309: no did not see that line.
[07:11] <Griz64> krub, different machine.
[07:11] <krub> Griz64: so? you wanted help, you must do your part
[07:12] <khaotik> anyone no what kind of modem is in a pavillion dv6646us notebook
[07:12] <Griz64> krub, the route -n & ifconfig are right for this network.
[07:12] <krub> khaotik: i will guess, Hayes compatible
[07:12] <Spenser309> its in settings>configure kaudiocreator>Encoder> select MP3> configure
[07:12] <Schedel> Spenser309: maybe there is a problem cause i am using kaudiocreator on a gnome desktop?
[07:12] <jackdaw> khatotik: doesn't it say on the FCC type sticker on the bottom?
[07:12] <Griz64> krub, they are pointing to the 192.168.1.x network, and dns IS working.
[07:12] <c0mp13371331337_> StrangeCharm - Your wisdom is exceeded only by your.... strange charm... and I salute you, sir or madam.
[07:12] <Griz64> krub, no packets flowing OUT though.
[07:12] <krub> Griz64: if you are going to make me guess, i can not assist you
[07:13] <Schedel> Spenser309: oh yes.
[07:13] <pulicoti> anyway thanx to everyone who tried to help me , just in case you will able to check the bug, keep me in consideration for the next time
[07:13] <pulicoti> :)
[07:13] <pulicoti> and :( for the bloody java
[07:13] <StrangeCharm> c0mp13371331337_: on the internet / anonymised in chat rooms / there is no gender
[07:13] <napster> is there a command which I can view the root(username) ?
[07:13] <Schedel> Spenser309: no i need to find out the right command.
[07:14] <krub> napster  cat /etc/passwd and  see who the uid of 0
[07:14] <krub> napster: most likely root
[07:14] <napster> at the terminal ?
[07:14] <pulicoti> bye everyone
[07:14] <krub> yes
[07:15] <interceptor> !кг
[07:15] <napster> ok, brb krub I'll try it in the other workstation. Thank you so much
[07:15] <interceptor> !ru
[07:15] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[07:15] <interceptor> бля
[07:15] <Griz64> krub, if i COULD get the data to you, i SWEAR i would. i'm trying, but all is failing.
[07:16] <Schedel> Spenser309: very kind from you that you especially installed the program. :-) respect
[07:16] <redwyrm> I'm trying to burn mp3s with brasero... but it complains that the song can't be handled by gstreamer. I just installed the fluendo codec, but brasero still won't do it!
[07:17] <scrash08> hi. i'm abt to DL an "64-bit PC (AMD64) server install CD".  goal is to install install on LVM & RAID partitions.  Do I instead need the "64-bit PC (AMD64) alternate install CD"? Instructions @ "http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/gutsy/" are unclear to me ....
[07:17] <krub> Griz64: you can manually retype it
[07:17] <bazhang> !mp3
[07:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:17] <krub> but if that is too hard , oh well
[07:17] <zcat[1]> scrash08: I'd go for alternate if you want to do lvm or raid or disk encryption...
[07:18] <redwyrm> bazhang, I tried looking at the RestrictedFormats page
[07:18] <Griz64> krub, may i PM this to you? or would you prefer pastebin.
[07:18] <scrash08> zcat[1]: hi. aha. so, the normal server install does not allow/enable raid/lvm @ install?
[07:18] <DarKnesS_WolF> is there any way i can create a local repos. ? from ubuntu feisty ?
[07:18] <redwyrm> do I need to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly to get brasero to burn mp3s?
[07:18] <bazhang> redwyrm: I'm using kubuntu and that requires lame; not sure if ubuntu (gnome is the same)
[07:19] <krub> Griz64: am not registered, so go ahead and try to pm, but am not sure I will get it
[07:19] <zcat[1]> oh.. hang on.. server install? yeah.. I think server install does the lvm/raid stuff.. it ought to :)
[07:19] <redwyrm> bazhang, ok, thanks
[07:19] <Griz64> krub, then i'll just pastebin.
[07:19] <interceptor> #ubuntu-ru
[07:19] <napster> krub: I typed cat etc/password at the terminal, but won't work.
[07:19] <hilikus`> cat /etc/
[07:19] <krub> napster  /etc/passwd
[07:19] <napster> krub: I know how to change the root password, but my problem is, I don't know what's the username.
[07:20] <zcat[1]> I do desktop installs on all our servers, so that if there's ever a problem I gan bring up a GUI and use firefox / xchat to get help..
[07:20] <krub> napster it is root,
[07:20] <napster> so you mean, it's always default as root?
[07:20] <ganesh> hai, i created a partition & copied the filesystem from live cd , now i want to update the grub HOWTO
[07:20] <zcat[1]> .. but I change the kernel so a server one :)
[07:20] <earlmred> zcat[1], that's what a laptop is for, or irssi
[07:21] <redwyrm> bazhang, well, I already have lame installed... what I'm trying right now is installing the -ffmpeg, -ugly, and -ugly-multiverse gstreamer plugin packages
[07:21] <napster> so if it 'root' how can I login as root?
[07:21] <krub> napster: did you  do what I asked?  cat /etc/passwd
[07:21] <napster> yeah, I ded, but nothings happen
[07:21] <napster> *did
[07:21] <jackdaw> how do i get involved with developing something useful
[07:21] <earlmred> napster, uh, you don't, you sudo su - or sudo bash
[07:21] <jackdaw> can anyone tell me that?
[07:21] <scrash08> zcat[1]: heh. yeah, it *ought* to ... but those instructions are confusing.  'says' that the "alternate installl ... provides for the following situations ... LVM and/or RAID partitioning".  But is does NOT say that the server.iso does not.  Just not clear as to why they call it out ... and trying to get the right DL started befort hittin' the hay :-)
[07:21] <krub> napster on  a terminal nothing happened after you typed those commands?
[07:21] <napster> nope, I just follow what you guys tell
[07:22] <napster> yeah, I only typed what you said, krub
[07:22] <ganesh> how to update the grub after copying the filesystem from live cd
[07:22] <krub> napster exactly what did you type?
[07:22] <bazhang> redwyrm: you really should check out ubuntuforums, or simply wait for daytime in this channel when all the gurus are here
[07:22] <zcat[1]> I figure gdm in the background is only using a few hundred K of swpa anyhow.. gdm not started at all is only using a tiny slice of diskspace.. not like the old days when you wanted every free byte of ram and diskspace you could get ...
[07:22] <napster> scrash08: Do I need to use sudo?
[07:23] <earlmred> napster, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:23] <redwyrm> bazhang, ok, thanks... I'm impatient though :(
[07:23] <scrash08> napster: huh?
[07:23] <napster> earlmred: I'll try that
[07:23] <krub> napster willy nilly having root access is not recommended lest you can handle re-install many  times..  hehe
[07:23] <zetheroo> we are having major issues with WPA encrypted networks.... anyone any ideas?
[07:23] <ganesh> how to update the grub after copying the filesystem from live cd , i tried grub-install command too
[07:24] <bazhang> redwyrm: you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and win32codecs and the rest?
[07:24] <jackdaw> ganesh: sudo update-grub
[07:24] <scrash08> zcat[1]: ah. so, custom kernel builds -- which i'll be doing -- require the server.iso?  or, can minimal-install from whatever .iso + apt-get get me to where i want?
[07:24] <krub> ganesh: why the need to update grub? what did you do?
[07:24] <jackdaw> ganesh: i think
[07:24] <redwyrm> bazhang, xubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:24] <zcat[1]> scrash08: you need to build your own kernels?
[07:24] <jackdaw> scrash08: custom kernel builds just require the linux headers and source
[07:24] <scrash08> zcat[1]:  yup.
[07:24] <zetheroo> anyone?
[07:25] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: Anyone what?
[07:25] <ganesh> jackdaw, i copied the filesystem from live cd this need to update the grub from live cd
[07:25] <bazhang> redwyrm: I think xubuntu has their own channel as well
[07:25] <jackdaw> ganesh: i'm sorry did you install grub first? Did you do the actual live install?
[07:25] <zetheroo> we are having major issues with WPA encrypted networks.... anyone any ideas?
[07:25] <Griz64> krub, take a peak at   http://rafb.net/p/sqkVBh40.html
[07:25] <scrash08> jackdaw: yup.  don't need all the extra garbage then ... /me looks for a  minimal netinstall iso .... nada?
[07:25] <jackdaw> ganesh: because i don't think just copying the filesystem will work, you'd need to chroot to the physical disk and thins
[07:25] <redwyrm> bazhang, I've tried them in the past, but they aren't nearly as active :/
[07:25] <zcat[1]> scrash08: afaik the server install is just 'server' kernel (no pre-emp patches) and no GUI (gdm/gnome/desktop software)..
[07:25] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: What does "Major Issues" mean?
[07:25] <ganesh> jackdaw, then only whenever i boots the menu.lst will come in proper way
[07:26] <Griz64> krub, i'm trying to finger out a way to get the  iptables -L  to you
[07:26] <grekkos> how do I open the gnome advanced screenshot options that let me select extra options, I know i've seen ti somewhere before
[07:26] <scrash08> zcat[1]: ok. pre-emp?
[07:26] <jackdaw> scrash08: i'd suggest the alternate install or the server install, still unless you're really stuck, it's only 1cd of junk, not a huge image...
[07:26] <zcat[1]> scrash08: if you apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and a regular kernel, you have what the desktop CD installs
[07:27] <jackdaw> ganesh: so you get grub to actually show the menu? but then it doesn't boot from there/
[07:27] <ganesh> jackdaw, through chroot i ran the command update grub , the menu.st updated but there is no any info about other partition
[07:27] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: just random connectivity and then loss of connection
[07:27] <zcat[1]> kernel pre-emption, what makes a desktop system more responsive.. not wanted on a server though
[07:27] <jackdaw> ganesh: so you chrooted from the cd's / to the actual / on say (hd0) or whatever?
[07:27] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: And by WPA issues, I take it that this behaviour doesn't occur on WEP or non-encrypted networks?
[07:27] <grekkos> How do i bring up the screenshot dialog that prompts for some options before capturing an image?
[07:27] <grekkos> under gnome
[07:28] <ganesh> jackdaw, whenever i boots the menu.st is previous one , it is not from the newly created partition
[07:28] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: correct
[07:28] <jackdaw> ganesh: sorry im kinda shacky on how all this works, i've not had to deal with that kind of problem since gentoo. was there a specific reason why you didn't do the 'normal' install method?
[07:28] <r3r3> grekkos, look in your program menu lol
[07:28] <scrash08> jackdaw: fair enuf ... i'm just lazy and don't wanna re-DL if i don't have to ;-)
[07:28] <scrash08> zcat[1] got it.
[07:28] <scrash08> either way, i guess i'll DL the alternate install, which I know (?) has the LVM/RAID stuff .... I assume there *is* a custom package selector in the ubuntu installer?
[07:28] <jackdaw> ganesh: ah did you set the partition to boot?
[07:28] <grekkos> r3r3: is there another program? I remember a different interface...
[07:28] <misc--> zcat[1]: that worked :) Thanks for that
[07:28] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: Are you being prompted for your WPA password frequently, or are you using some sort of a keyfile to access the network?
[07:28] <r3r3> it s take a screenshot
[07:29] <jackdaw> scrash08: you should get enough packages to launch and then you just apt-get whatever you want
[07:29] <ganesh> jackdaw, i set the boot flag too
[07:29] <r3r3> that's the only one the comes with ubuntu
[07:29] <scrash08> jackdaw: yup.
[07:29] <ganesh> jackdaw, then also the menu.lst is not updated properly
[07:29] <grekkos> maybe the one i was thinking of is in KDE or came with another distro, r3r3. Thanks for the help though
[07:29] <zcat[1]> scrash08: download the DVD iso, you get all three installs :)
[07:29] <jackdaw> ganesh: hmph, well update-grub has always fixed that for me, but i've never had to move across partitions,
[07:29] <r3r3> probably grekkos
[07:30] <jackdaw> ganesh: i can give you the usual, perhaps you should try a fresh install crap, but that's no help is it. perhaps someone else is smarter than me
[07:30] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: every time an attempt is made to connect I am prompted for the password..... sometimes it works ad sometimes not
[07:30] <scrash08> zcat[1]: heh. i'd like it to be done when i wake up! ;-p
[07:30] <jackdaw> ganesh: i'd suggest you have a look at some tutorials about setting up a fresh linux install (without using any kind of smart system)
[07:30] <ganesh> jackdaw, normal installation works fine , i want to do this method
[07:30] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: Is it the same user affected? All users? Some not others?
[07:30] <jackdaw> ganesh: the gentoo install guide had a lot of helpfull stuff about how to make grub and all that work i recall, but there might be other ways
[07:31] <zcat[1]> anyhow, my 'desktop server' is hosting a dozen games, mumble, and a couple of websites.. and ticking along with plenty of ram and CPU to spare.. :)
[07:31] <jackdaw> what's mumble?
[07:31] <ganesh> jackdaw, can ypu give me the link
[07:31] <zcat[1]> .. so no need to get too fussy I guess..
[07:31] <jackdaw> ganesh: sure hold on
[07:31] <ganesh> jackdaw, k
[07:31] <zcat[1]> OSS alternative to teamspeak
[07:31] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: one out of 4 are not effected...d
[07:32] <zcat[1]> oh.. and an asterisk server too ..
[07:32] <krub> Griz64: ok, the box ip is 192.168.1.118 ? thats for the box not able to access the internet?
[07:32] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: All on the same laptop though?
[07:32] <scrash08> ah! found a netinstall mini.iso (fyi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD).
[07:32] <scrash08> now why is that not on every mirror?
[07:32] <arjuna> what is the biggest p2p network? edonkey?
[07:33] <hilikus`> bittorrent?
[07:33] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: no, all seperate
[07:33] <jackdaw> arjuna: try isohunt and piratebay for torrent seeds
[07:33] <bazhang> !piracy | jackdaw
[07:33] <ubotu> jackdaw: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
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[07:34] <bazhang> arjuna see above
[07:34] <jackdaw> bah! that wasn't piracy info
[07:34] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: So, you have four laptops. All of them have ubuntu 7.1. And on three of them, you can't establish a wireless connection when WPA is enabled in your router. Is that a fair summary?
[07:34] <jackdaw> there are many legitimate things shared on isohunt
[07:34] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: close enough
[07:35] <zcat[1]> harsh.. I torrent all my linux dvd iso downloads.. not piracy!
[07:36] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: I ask because I'm trying to figure out where to start looking for the root of the problem. If that describes your situation, then you could have a configuration error (but to have a config error in three laptops seems odd), or you could have a router problem (which, if I've described the situation properly seems more likely).
[07:36] <bazhang> www.linuxtracker.org
[07:36] <bazhang> for all of your legitimate linux iso needs
[07:36] <Griz64> krub, I appreciate your offer to assist, but I've been reading on google and others and it seems that this happens once in a while. So far, even the geeks are giving up and just re-installing. Seeing how 'they' feel that way, I already started the install again. It's in vmware, so the only 'time' involved is the first  dist-upgrade  (u-server_7.10)  Thank You, though!
[07:37] <zcat[1]> true, generally I use the torrent link at ubuntu.com, not isohunt..
[07:37] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: well there are also about 8 WIndows PC's running on the woreless connection, and they are working fine
[07:38] <bazhang> not arguing about legitimacy of bit torrent protocol--but tpb? cmon
[07:38] <zcat[1]> yeah, ratio of legit content on tpb is probably pretty low..
[07:39] <bazhang> haha
[07:39] <zcat[1]> hmmm !offtopic...
[07:39] <zetheroo> 1111111
[07:39] <bazhang> waaay offtopic
[07:39] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: So you have 12 computers with wireless sharing the one router, using WPA encryption, and only three of the four Ubuntu laptops can't connect. Hm... but when you turn off encryption all of them can connect. Impressive problem....
[07:39] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: you bet... ha
[07:41] <krub> Griz64: okay good luck
[07:42] <blippe> what was the name of the mediaplayer in xubuntu?
[07:42] <zcat[1]> I can't figure out how to get linux to connect with WEP or WPA .. The router wants a bunch of hey, Linux wants a password. wth?
[07:42] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: I still might start by ruling out router issues. I'd reset, setup WPA, connect the first laptop having trouble. Assuming it works, clone the mac, leave it connected, add the second having issues, and so on. If, after resetting, and setting up WPA and trying to connect the three laptops as least we'll have confirmed that these three laptops are having WPA issues. At that point I'd look at purging them of their WPA configs and rein
[07:42] <zcat[1]> *hex
[07:43] <Griz64> krub, Thank You! Again. I've ran debian for a decade before moving and wasn't the least bit intimidated in building this server and trying ebox, but 'this' smacked me bad! :-(
[07:43] <bazhang> zcat[1]: do you have the nm-applet installed?
[07:43] <ganesh> krub, , i created a partition & copied the filesystem from live cd , now i want to update the grub HOWTO
[07:44] <ganesh> krub, without updating the grub i cant boot from my own created partition
[07:44] <zcat[1]> I have wifi-radar now I think.. I might take another look at it.. I've leaft my wifi open for the last two years and it's never been a problem, so no rush to close it.
[07:44] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: Or you can just start by posting the output of lshw to pastebin, and we'll have a look at the wireless cards in these three laptops. Hopefuly they're all the same, so that one fix, if found, fixes them all. You use DHCP on the router?
[07:45] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: And what's the make and model of your router?
[07:45] <bazhang> zcat[1]: ah wifi-radar; never got that going myself--and leaving my wireless open is not an option around here--greedy neighbors :{
[07:45] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: the thing is that there are actually 3 routers
[07:45] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: .... anymore surprises?
[07:46] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: well... one Router (DI-524) and two Netgear Access Points relaying the wireless to other parts of the building
[07:46] <zetheroo> hehe
[07:46] <zetheroo> more surprises
[07:46] <napster> I have a hub, but I don't know how to config my I.P address. My three computers(I tested for LAN) has thesame I.P adresses, how can I change their I.P so my computers can communicate to each one.
[07:46] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: Lemme guess. The three affected laptops can't connect to any of the three wireless routers, thus ruling out the routers as a possible cause of the problem.
[07:47] <krub> ganesh: am not sure by merely copying a liveCD files or iso into a partition and then updating grub will make it boot from the subject partition
[07:47] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: a day ago they were all working... and now 3 of them are having issues
[07:48] <ganesh> but if do it manuall it is working fine
[07:48] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: Any updates on those three since yesterday?
[07:48] <krub> this irsii is difficult for me..back to xchat
[07:48] <ganesh> krub, but if do it manuall it is working fine
[07:48] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: geez... I do not think so..... I am pretty sure not
[07:48] <napster> I have a hub, but I don't know how to config my I.P address. My three computers(I tested for LAN) has thesame I.P adresses, how can I change their I.P so my computers can communicate to each one.
[07:48] <krub> ganesh what do you mean do it manually?
[07:49] <krub> ganesh brb, i have to change to another client
[07:49] <blackmask> hiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[07:49] <ganesh> krub, if i manually make it through grub command it is working
[07:50] <phaedra> napster, You need to set the hub to be a dhcp server and the comps need to get their ip from the hub...
[07:50] <AndrewM> what does "connection reset by peer" mean?
[07:50] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: is it possible that network-manager is having a hard time making the transition from one Access Point to another automatically?
[07:50] <grekkos> AndrewM: the connection timed out
[07:50] <grekkos> i think
[07:50] <AndrewM> thankyou
[07:50] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: Well... I gotta be honest. You're situation is a bit too complicated for me. My technique usually involves simplifying to locate the source of the problem. If it were me, I'd disconnect the netgear AP's and all the other computers. Try connecting the three to the bare router. Turn WPA on and repeat. Add computers and components back onto the network one at a time until I could replicate the problem.
[07:50] <ganesh> krub, ok
[07:51] <zcat[1]> napster: how are you finding out each computer's IP address?
[07:51] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: Sure... it's possible. But you could discover if that was the problem by disconnecting the APs and trying to connect to the router. No?
[07:52] <krubs> ganesh how are you doing this manually? can you elaborate?
[07:53] <phaedra> napster, Try this out...   http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-networking-for-basic-and-advanced-users.html
[07:53] <redwyrm> bazhang, well, ds in #gstreamer told me how to fix it... I needed to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
[07:53]  * zcat[1] suspects napster is going to whatismyip.com from each of his computers ...
[07:53] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: well.......... I have a gut feeling that something is up with the Access Points...... and the transition being made from one to the other
[07:54] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: That would be my guess. Have you rebooted the three devices?
[07:55] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: they have been rebooted numerous times
[07:55] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: Firmware updates avaiable?
[07:55] <MrGreencastle> Hi, I'm using Xgl right now and I want to use a media centre called Elisa. I've figured out how to do it redirecting Elisa to start on X.org by using the "DISPLAY=:0" command before running Elisa. However, the program starts in the upper-left corner of the screen and is unmovable. I know it works because I can see the animations working. How do I make it fullscreen or move it? Is there a special extra command? Sorry for the lengthin
[07:55] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: thing is that I am the Linux guy around here,,, and I am getting such a mouthful from the Windows Techs
[07:55] <ArthurArchnix> I have a d-link 524, so I know there's an update for that in the last few months.
[07:55] <JAY-OH-EN> can somebody help me with this? Every time I press shutdown button in the top right hand corner my computer freezes but i can still move the mouse its really annoying like really bad so can anybody help me with this
[07:56] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: hey.. I got to run.... look thanks for your interest in my problems here...
[07:56] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: Good luck. Fun story anyway. :P
[07:56] <zetheroo> ArthurArchnix: I'll get on later again.... and see if there are any more rocks we can unturn
[07:56] <zetheroo> hehe
[07:56] <zetheroo> ciao
[07:56] <ganesh> krubs, grub command then root,  find the stage1 & setup (hd0)
[07:57] <krubs> ganesh but that is for your current running system not for the new one you installed in a specific partition eh?
[07:58] <egoleo> hey is anyone using acer 4520 with amd
[07:59] <egoleo> after installation on my acer 4520 AMD machine my sound and graphics doesn't work
[07:59] <egoleo> any helper?
[08:02] <fanat1k> hi all. Does somebody ever install OCS-Inventory?
[08:02] <MrGreencastle> How can I move windows opened with DISPLAY=:0 under Xgl? Always in the top left corner...
[08:02] <HeRoX> kATHOS MS?
[08:02] <ganesh> krubs, yeah wat you said is correct
[08:03] <ganesh> krubs, thatsy i said manuall process
[08:03] <ganesh> krubs, i have to edit the menu.lst file manually
[08:03] <djzn> hi can audacious player transcode files???? FLAC to MP3?
[08:04] <krubs> ganesh you try that, but am still not convince you can just then boot off of that new partition
[08:04] <JAY-OH-EN> can somebody help me with this? Every time I press shutdown button in the top right hand corner my computer freezes but i can still move the mouse its really annoying like really bad so can anybody help me with this
[08:04] <Ademan> djzn: mencoder probably could do it
[08:04] <krubs> ganesh lets us know how it goes
[08:04] <ppibburr> jay-oh-en: perhaps update ubuntu-desktop??
[08:04] <djzn> the audacious page says it CAN do it
[08:04] <JAY-OH-EN> and flash videos really slow down my firefox how do i make it use less resources or is there a better internet browser thats in the repos
[08:05] <ganesh> krubs, after editting the menu.lst file manually it really boots sure
[08:05] <JAY-OH-EN> ppibburr, ill try kk but is it just simply sudo apt-get update-ubuntu-desktop or sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:05] <vincent_> is it possible to download the actual fix from the bugs.launchpad site?
[08:05] <ppibburr> the latter
[08:05] <krubs> ganesh you already made it work? thats excellent
[08:05] <ganesh> krubs, mine requirement is how to do these thing through command mode
[08:05] <ppibburr> jay: update ub
[08:06] <ppibburr> no -
[08:06] <alch3mist> ubuntu peps/maintainer/devs please update mono to 1.2.6 and monodevelop to 0.18
[08:06] <krubs> ganesh-> huh? what do you mean in command mode?
[08:06] <fanat1k> DiD somebody know howto install OCS INVENTORY?!
[08:06] <ganesh> krubs, without editing menu.lst
[08:06] <zcat[1]> Weird.. this time around I enabled WPA, both the AP and Laptop prompted me for a password.. and now I have an encrypted connection.. not sure why I got so confused last time I tried this!
[08:06] <krubs> ganesh-> impossible, thats whats required by grub is the menu.lst
[08:07] <JAY-OH-EN> ppibburr, ?
[08:07] <zcat[1]> fanat1k: sudo apt-get install ocsinventory-server  perhaps?
[08:07] <CruX> hello
[08:07] <CruX> i am using imagemagick on ubuntu and i am always getting this error
[08:07] <ppibburr> jay-oh-en: no - betwen update and package
[08:07] <CruX> convert: unrecognized option `-transverse'.
[08:07] <ganesh> krubs, it means if i run the command " grub-install --root-directory=<newparttion> /dev/sda   it has to update the menu.lst
[08:07] <JAY-OH-EN> ok
[08:07] <JAY-OH-EN> sudo apt-get update ubuntu-desktop
[08:08] <CruX> on slackware it worked
[08:08] <holzmodem> hi i want to backup my data on a external harddrive, so i want use cp -Rf *. my question is now, change "cp" the owner of the copied files?
[08:08] <krubs> ganesh try and has it modified yet?
[08:08] <ppibburr> jay-oh-en: no
[08:08] <ganesh> krubs, by this  command " grub-install --root-directory=<newparttion> /dev/sda "the stage1 is not able to read this the error im getting
[08:08] <ppibburr> install
[08:09] <ganesh> krubs, are you getting my problem
[08:09] <zcat[1]> !info ocsinventory-server
[08:09] <ubotu> Package ocsinventory-server does not exist in gutsy
[08:09] <krubs> ganesh-> i know, because those are part of the whole shebang for booting, device.map and stage1 has to match
[08:09] <zcat[1]> hmmm.. what repo is that from then?
[08:10] <zcat[1]> anyone know how I can find out what repo a package is coming from?
[08:10] <krubs> ganesh-> and including System.map
[08:10] <krubs> ganesh if it was that easy to just copy files and boot..it would be nice
[08:13] <ppibburr> i made a skipjack-feisty live enviroment from a ubuntu feisty debootstrap and then added the packages i got on my freespire install, however sound does not work
[08:13] <ppibburr> is this specific to the type of build or?
[08:14] <zcat[1]> Mmmmk, ocsinventory-* are packages in hardy .. probably available for gusty if you add a repo though. Who wanted to know, again?
[08:14] <cvd> hello there, can someone help me create a shortcut in the desktop to lock the screen?
[08:16] <cvd> ?
[08:16] <fanat1k> apt-get ocsinventory-client...
[08:16] <fanat1k> but I have problems with installation..
[08:17] <zcat[1]> fanat1k: never actually used it, so I probabaly can't help much..
[08:17] <genewitch> hey what does it mean "you need to be identified to join that channel"?
[08:17] <zcat[1]> genewitch: /msg nickserv help
[08:17] <crdlb> !register | genewitch
[08:17] <ubotu> genewitch: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[08:18] <genewitch> THX!
[08:18] <fudus> o
[08:18] <fudus> j
[08:18] <fudus> h
[08:18] <fudus> i
[08:18] <zcat[1]> !enter | fudus
[08:18] <ubotu> fudus: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:18] <kr00l_> I need help installing Doom 3!
[08:19] <JAY-OH-EN> flash videos really slow down my firefox how do i make it use less resources or is there a better internet browser thats in the repos
[08:19] <cvd> hey what is the shortcut 0xf5? what 0xf5 mean?
[08:19] <zcat[1]> bah, I'm holding out for Duke Nukem Forever!
[08:19] <kr00l_> Can I get help installing Doom 3
[08:20] <JAY-OH-EN> kr00l_, whats the problem
[08:20] <JAY-OH-EN> flash videos really slow down my firefox how do i make it use less resources or is there a better internet browser thats in the repos
[08:20] <kr00l_> doom3-linux-1.3.1.1304.x86.run can't get it to run
[08:20] <zcat[1]> cvd: ascii character 249 I think
[08:21] <zcat[1]> does gnash play flv? that's about all I really need from flash..
[08:22] <JAY-OH-EN> zcat[1], do you mean internet?
[08:22] <kr00l_> JAY-OH-EN: it says that the Dierectory doesn't exist
[08:22] <JAY-OH-EN> zcat[1], other wise yeah thatll work
[08:22] <fudus> for this Option "VertScrollDelta" "6", where do i put it in xorg.conf?
[08:22] <JAY-OH-EN> kr00l_, where is it located
[08:22] <zcat[1]> JAY-OH-EN: about the only thing I need flash for is playing videos on liveleak and youtube..
[08:23] <JAY-OH-EN> kr00l_, if its on your desktop cd ~/Desktop
[08:23] <kr00l_> JAY-OH-EN: N/M i got it
[08:23] <JAY-OH-EN> !flash > zcat[1] (use the first link and scrolll down)
[08:24] <bosnianboy> hi all
[08:24] <bosnianboy> need some help
[08:24] <softtower> wassup, bosnianguy
[08:24] <bosnianboy> what is the module for intel sound ccards ?
[08:24] <softtower> bosnianboy: sorry, have no idea...
[08:24] <omar_> I'm using Avant, but can anybody tell me how to make start on the system start up??
[08:25] <bosnianboy> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[08:25] <bosnianboy> \
[08:25] <zcat[1]> JAY-OH-EN: yeah I have flash already .. quite often it hangs for ages, sometimes I just kill firefox and restart it, sometimes it recovers after a minute or two .. it's a paion. If gnash plays videos, I might just use that instead ...
[08:25] <JAY-OH-EN> zcat[1], well gnash is worse imo
[08:26] <cvd> Hey any Use Opera here?
[08:27] <omar_> I'm using Avant window manager, but can anybody tell me how to make it start on the system start up??
[08:29] <JAY-OH-EN> zcat[1], well gnash is worse imo
[08:29] <JAY-OH-EN> zcat[1], oops
[08:29] <JAY-OH-EN> flash videos really slow down my firefox how do i make it use less resources or is there a better internet browser thats in the repos
[08:29] <cvd> its there a Opera channel?
[08:30] <omar_> I'm using Avant window manager, but can anybody tell me how to make it start on the system start up??
[08:30] <neoice> does the init.d order particularly matter? like can all services (bind9, apache, etc) just be S20?
[08:31] <pteague> anybody know what it means when a package is labeled as iB in aptitude/apt-get?
[08:32] <redwyrm> hi! serpentine refuses to convert mp3 files so they can be burned. any ideas?
[08:32] <Xintruder> but why????? why me?
[08:32] <tumbleweed__> because of what you did
[08:34] <JAY-OH-EN> flash videos really slow down my firefox how do i make it use less resources or is there a better internet browser thats in the repos
[08:34] <pteague> i don't think it's the browser... i believe it's the plugin that is the problem
[08:34] <JAY-OH-EN> i dont
[08:38] <Xintruder> Says who?
[08:38] <djzn> hi, can Audacious TRANSCODE formats???
[08:38] <OshaMaHUe> hi
[08:40] <glick> hey has anyone had any experience runnin ubuntu on some of the latest dell laptop offerings?
[08:40] <glick> im thinking about getting a laptop to run ubuntu on
[08:41] <OshaMaHUe> im trying to open a dvd burned in vista but i get "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume." error i checked forums but i couldnt find anything is there any way to open that?
[08:41] <taan> hi, i am running ubuntu on PCI (not PCI-E) nvidia card, and bitmap output to display is slow. I am thinking ubuntu clocks down PCI -- how would i find out what is the current clock settings of the PCI (not from BIOS but from running system)?
[08:41] <ppibburr> glick: yes
[08:41] <glick> ppibburr, what are you running and whats the experience?
[08:41] <bidossessi> hi folks. what's up on the flash front for ubuntu?
[08:42] <ppibburr> glick: inspirion 1501, perfect, just for broadcom wireless, get the bcm43xx-firmware-cutter
[08:42] <glick> ppibburr, im thinking of the latitude d80
[08:43] <glick> through my work i can get a sweet one for like 800 bucks and pay it interest free at 50 bucks a month
[08:43] <glick> but not if its heavy as a mofo
[08:43] <ppibburr> glick: pretty much, ubuntu works well on dell lap's
[08:44] <glick> my dell lappie just died thats why so i cant browse in bed and do work in bed :(
[08:45] <cvd> who use ubuntu here?
[08:45] <redwyrm> cvd, just about everyone...
[08:45] <bidossessi> like everybody?
[08:45] <hilikus`> none of the 1k people in here
[08:45] <TransAm> cvd: yes :D
[08:45] <hilikus`> none of them
[08:46] <genewitch> Hey guys big surprise, fedora core 8 doesn't support my synaptics touchpad either
[08:46] <genewitch> I think i may have to downgrade to a 2.4 kernel distro just to use the touchpad :-(
[08:46] <redwyrm> lovely
[08:46] <JAY-OH-EN> genewitch, wrong channel
[08:47] <genewitch> JAY, right channel. i was trying to get it to work on ubuntu for the past 36 hours
[08:47] <TransAm> hey guys, i realized i got a problem with playing mp3 or movies through samba windowsnetwork ... any idéas?
[08:47] <genewitch> trans, is your network ridiculously slow?
[08:47] <TransAm> genewitch: nope 100/100
[08:48] <genewitch> I was wireless B streaming avi files...
[08:48] <Xintruder> how can ubuntu help me in falconing hmmmm
[08:48] <seppe> hi, is there a console program which works as frontend on mencoder? I want to create a quality DVD rip (to avi + srt file)
[08:48] <TransAm> does xmms and so on have a problem streaming through samba?
[08:49] <seppe> transAm: I think so, I experienced problems with that as well
[08:50] <glick> does dells website show special offers depending on what ip your accessing their website from?
[08:50] <bidossessi> TransAm, why not use nfs?
[08:50] <TransAm> bidossessi: nfs?
[08:51] <bidossessi> TransAm, are you sharing files acrross different OSes?
[08:51] <seppe> but nfs isn't compatible with Windows I guess?
[08:51] <TransAm> have a old mandrake server ithink.. a 300mhz or something ... and i use ubuntu on my desktopcomputer
[08:52] <bidossessi> a mandrake server should dedfinitely be able o export a filesystem through nfs
[08:52] <TransAm> the reason that i use smb i becourse everyone else around me keep using windows
[08:53] <bidossessi> i recommend using nfs for linux clients, and smb for windows clients
[08:53] <bidossessi> TransAm, do you have problem accessing/using your shares through windows?
[08:53] <TransAm> can try that.. i was just curious if there is a package that needs to be installed or something
[08:54] <TransAm> bidossessi:  nope noproblem there ... in windows there is no streaming problem
[08:54] <bidossessi> smb sharing is meant to be a linux=>windows thing, not linux=>linux, though it can work it you really try
[08:54] <seppe> the streaming problem is XMMS specific, I have th esame problem
[08:54] <anon_> HELLOALL
[08:55] <anon_> oops sorry about the caps
[08:55] <bidossessi> then if your source runs ubuntu/linux, use nfs to share to another ubuntu/linux client.
[08:56] <anon_> anyone know where I can get a dvd player that actually plays dvd's? Movie player wont play any of my dvds
[08:56] <bidossessi> you'd be amazed at how quick and easy it is
[08:56] <TransAm> bidossessi: sorry, it now strangely works with "movie player" ... its only XMMS that is unable to stream
[08:56] <TransAm> bidossessi: yes will try that
[08:56] <heartsblood> could somebody explain how a router can answer dhcp requests with 169.254.8.x/16 IPs when the routers dhcp pool was configured with 192.168.1.x/24 ips?
[08:57] <bidossessi> anon_, dvd playback is probably restricted. see restricted formats in the ubuntu faq, or something
[08:57] <anon_> kk thnx
[08:57] <TransAm> bidossessi: Thank you  =)
[08:58] <bidossessi> TransAm, you have to mount the smb share to a location that xmms can find. if you can't find your smb share using, like, mc, than chnces are xmms won't find it either.
[08:58] <seppe> anon: or install VLC media player, it plays every video format out of the box
[08:58] <heartsblood> has anybody ever seen their system grab the IP 169.254.8.x/16 before?
[08:59] <phenom> Hey yall, what is another good bmx movie other than RAD? :)
[08:59] <bidossessi> heartsblood, yeah. means dhcp client is failing to get an adress
[09:00] <g[r]eek> Hi I want to execute commands without having to type root password all the time. Also, I have tried logging in with root, but then when I try execute a command as user Joe, it asks me for Joe's password - I'd like to avoid having to type that in too. It's for a command that I keep executing constantly and retyping the password every 5 minutes is annoying.
[09:00] <seppe> g[r]eek: sudo -s ?
[09:00] <heartsblood> bidossessi: not anymore, I manually sent a dhcp request and I got a proper IP.  I just can't figure out how it ended up with such an odd IP.
[09:00] <bidossessi> g[r]eek, can't you use a cron job, if you need to retype it ?
[09:01] <heartsblood> bidossessi: sorry I read that wrong
[09:01] <g[r]eek> bidossessi: No it's not that kind
[09:01] <bidossessi> heartsblood, there's a timeout on a dhcp request
[09:01] <g[r]eek> seppe: You mean sudo -S?
[09:01] <dammit2006> sudo -i
[09:02] <bidossessi> if you still don't have an address after the timeout, then it allocates you one of those non-routable one
[09:02] <heartsblood> Bidossessi: yes I understand that, but I've never seen THAT IP before.  Is 169.254.8.37/16 some sort of default?  And if so why would a subnetted IP be a default.
[09:03] <seppe> g[r]eek: no, I use "sudo -s"
[09:03] <heartsblood> Bidossessi: you'll have to forgive my ignorance but I get a little paranoid when I see subnets.
[09:03] <g[r]eek> seppe: Please explain
[09:04] <cvd> c ya
[09:04] <bidossessi> heartsblood, i don't have to forgive anything. i'm pretty ignorant myself :)
[09:04] <_ruben> heartsblood: its autoconfiguration ip space, when a client is set to auto config and there's no dhcp server avail, it will default to an ip in that range
[09:05] <heartsblood> _ruben: but a that range can be a differential of a subnet?
[09:05] <heartsblood> _ruben: what defines the range?
[09:06] <_ruben> heartsblood: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3927.txt
[09:07] <_ruben> heartsblood: check paragraph 2.1 on page 9
[09:08] <napnap> hello hello
[09:08] <phaidros> kewl rfc homework in #ubuntu :)
[09:09] <phaidros> thats nice
[09:09] <phaidros> hello napnap
[09:09] <heartsblood> _ruben: thank you.
[09:09] <Slart> a question.. is gdmgreeter the application that lets you login to gnome?
[09:10] <ppibburr> gdm
[09:11] <TheDeadSerious> hello
[09:11] <napnap> I've installed xubuntu on my usb harddrive. I've also installed grub on it...But at boot time, grub is launched but it cannot run any OS (xubuntu,windows...) . In menu.lst Xubuntu boot on (hd1,0)...what i wrong ?
[09:12] <napnap> and windows on (hd0,0)
[09:12] <bidossessi> napnap, have you tried running grub interactively?
[09:13] <TheDeadSerious> Is there a way to bind certain Windows (ie. Firefox, Evolution) to a certain desk, for instance no. 4, so I can have "Web", "Development" etc. desks for free without moving the windows manually?
[09:13] <napnap> bidossessi: interactively....mmm..what do you mean ? ..I just try to modify boot command line, whithout success
[09:14] <bidossessi> if i remember correctly, you can drop to a cli in grub by pressing c at boot...
[09:14] <napnap> bidossessi: yes it's true, but after ?
[09:15] <bidossessi> using tab completion, you can find out the real hd structure that grub sees
[09:16] <napnap> bidossessi: mm ok, but I can do this here (=>xubuntu livecd)
[09:17] <napnap> bidossessi: with tab completion I see several command , but I don't see The good
[09:18] <bidossessi> napnap, typical procedure would be "root (hd{tab}"
[09:18] <bidossessi> that would show you the available options
[09:18] <napnap> bidossessi: no, doesn't work, complete nothing
[09:19] <brubelsabs> where can I file  a bug? launchpad?
[09:19] <bidossessi> what about "root ({tab}"
[09:19] <fife> hello i have xubuntu and i can't get any sound from it. and suggestions?
[09:20] <bidossessi> fife, checked sound levels?
[09:20] <fife> yup everything is up and nothing is muted
[09:20] <napnap> bidossessi: thx for the help, I will say you all in 5 minutes, I come back
[09:21] <limepi> hey... I did something really trivial and dumb
[09:21] <limepi> and now I can't login worth a damn
[09:21] <limepi> my LCD says out of range
[09:22] <limepi> because I set things to some dumb refresh rate
[09:22] <limepi> how do i shot screen resolution
[09:22] <bidossessi> limepi, i'm sure you can fix that in console
[09:22] <limepi> the console isn't responding :(
[09:22] <marshall> i really hate the deskbar applet that comes with gutsy, its bulky and crashy, and i really just want the original deskbar. does anybody know how I can get that?
[09:22] <limepi> oh
[09:22] <limepi> yeah
[09:22] <limepi> heh
[09:23] <limepi> I FORGOT THAT IT WORKS FROM LIVECD
[09:23] <Ariel`> Anyone have a sec to help out a Linux newbie with a rather annoying problem?
[09:23] <limepi> ...um, how can I fix it w/console? some xwin thing
[09:23] <limepi> we are at your beck and call
[09:23] <limepi> at least they are
[09:23] <bidossessi> Ariel`, don't ask metaquestions, please. just shoot
[09:24] <fife> just doubled checked and all levels are good
[09:24] <limepi> um so how do I change resolution for the installed OS
[09:25] <limepi> is it still through xfree86
[09:25] <bidossessi> limepi, i'm pretty sure you can boot/drop to init 3 and fix your xorg.conf with something like "dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server". not sure about the syntax, tho
[09:25] <limepi> hmm
[09:26] <limepi> yeah to autodetect or whatever
[09:26] <bidossessi> fife, do you get any alsa errors in dmesg?
[09:26] <bidossessi> fife, was sound working at some point and not anymore?
[09:27] <Ariel`> Well... I'm not sure how to put this properly.  I'm trying to start a program (Tux Gadget Manager for use with the Tux droid, specifically), and every time I do it starts to load and... goes poof.  Doesn't even draw a window before disappearing.  It used to run just fine, but now it does this.  I've no idea why it's even vanishing... the software wasn't altered since the last time it worked.
[09:27] <JAY-OH-EN> is prelink good?
[09:27] <fife> i had xp and it worked and it worked on pclinux but not on xubuntu
[09:27] <guest1201078753> ficken
[09:28] <limepi> um file a bug report
[09:28] <fife> it recognizes my card
[09:28] <bidossessi> fife, maybe you should check the hcl for your soundcard
[09:28] <guest1201078753> alex?
[09:28] <limepi> it's open sores after all :)
[09:28] <napnap> bidossessi: I do reboot X, I can't write anythin on terminal now..:-S
[09:28] <ppibburr> Ariel`: run it in a command line and read for errors
[09:29] <bidossessi> napnap, try rebooting in level 3
[09:31] <napnap> bidossessi: I send you PM with command line
[09:33] <bidossessi> napnap, i believe grub accepts extra arguments before booting your system. just add "3" (without the quotes). that should send you to a cli login. from there, do your thing
[09:35] <Ariel`> Alright... not figuring this out on my own any time soon at this rate.  How do I find out what the line I need to use to launch from a command line?
[09:35] <bidossessi> Ariel`, type the first letters, then {tab}
[09:36] <JSharp> hmm, does anyone know how I can build mesa 7.0.2 on gutsy? I've looked around for packages, or instructions on building from source... will apt-build do the trick?
[09:37] <JSharp> Reason I ask is because I'm running up against a gl bug in blender... newer version is in hardy but I don't want to upgrade yet as wacom tablets are still a little messed up
[09:38] <yojimbo> hi
[09:38] <violetdream> Hi can anyone help a linux newbie? I have a very small SSD hard drive and I'd like to instal some Debs to another partition
[09:38] <yojimbo> my the bluetooth-applet fades after suspend-to-ram on hardy. is there a way to make it stay?
[09:39] <TransAm> God damn some ubuntu basics is totaly wopped crazy.... how the hell do i uninstall something that i have installed from scourcecode?
[09:41] <brubelsabs> TransAm: that is not an ubuntu specific problem: You could see if there is a make unistall target in your Makefile. If not: you may use checkinstall, and install the deb, and afterwards remove it. Or you may look in your Makefile wich files are copied to your system.
[09:42] <brubelsabs> TransArm: I ussally install all to /usr/local with the --prefix option, so I could delete if necessary
[09:42] <brubelsabs> TransArm: HTH
[09:43] <brubelsabs> TransArm: of course if I need to install from source and no package is available.
[09:43] <TransAm> makefile? :D ... ive read about it ... but i just "./install.pl" and now it dont work
[09:43] <brubelsabs> is there an uninstall.pl?
[09:44] <TransAm> nope
[09:44] <brubelsabs> what did you want to install?
[09:44] <TransAm> vmware =)
[09:44] <brubelsabs> is there no readme on howto remove this software?
[09:44] <julio> hI
[09:44] <brubelsabs> vmware has definitvley an uninstall.pl
[09:45] <julio> ANYONE RESOLV THE PROBLEM ABOUT GNOME START
[09:45] <julio> Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid
[09:45] <violetdream> is there a search file util in ubuntu by default
[09:45] <brubelsabs> TransArm: /usr/bin/vmware-uninstall.pl
[09:45] <bidossessi> violetdream, "find -name <yourfile>"
[09:47] <violetdream> bidossessi I just want to search for a file on the whole filesystem, I don't have a file
[09:47] <bidossessi> violetdream, "find / -name <filename>"
[09:47] <Javid> are there any alternate mirrors for the apt repositories? I know debian has a mirror that's close to me and it's fast as hell, just wondering if ubuntu might have the same thing
[09:47] <ppibburr> locate
[09:48] <bidossessi> ppibburr, is slocate installed by default in ubuntu?
[09:49] <Javid> bidossessi, I think so
[09:49] <bidossessi> wb napnap
[09:50] <napnap> bidossessi: re, just to say you : all works fine, I'm on xubuntu harddrive system now, thanks for your help
[09:50] <bidossessi> napnap, glad to hear it, especially since i don't use ubuntu myself :)
[09:51] <vlt> Hello. I have an ogg vorbis file here and "slides" in a PDF. What is a reccommended media file format to combine both to get a presentation with slides changing at predefined timestamps? Any idea?
[09:52] <Mr_Alex> i hab a real pb with my maildir
[09:52] <bidossessi> let's say i installed ubuntu on a system but forgot the password, how could i use the livecd to fix it?
[09:53] <Mr_Alex> mails are stored in a folder and when i receive a mail , a directory is created recursively in my maildir
[09:53] <Mr_Alex> look the result of a  "tree" here http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1483461#p1483461
[09:53] <Mr_Alex> i really need help
[09:54] <napnap> bidossessi: you have forgot user pwd ?
[09:54] <vlt> bidossessi: You can set a new password in /mount_point_of_your_system_hd/etc/passwd
[09:56] <napnap> bidossessi: or I think if you chroot on your installed system with your livecd, you can change pwd with command line passwd...
[09:56] <napnap> brb
[09:57] <Mr_Alex> no idea for my pb ?
[09:58] <violetdream> so is there really no way to install debs on another partition?
[09:59] <TransAm> How does ./configure command work? ... i only get the response "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory"
[09:59] <Aloha> TransAm, there is no configure in that directory
[10:00] <drez> hi ppl, i downloaded the java jre, but now i am at screen with the license agreement, but i cant click ok or anything. What should i do?
[10:00] <TransAm> Aloha: but i need to install vmware thats not a .deb package
[10:00] <TransAm> and the tutorials then seems to quite suck
[10:01] <Aloha> TransAm, did you untar the tar.gz?
[10:01] <violetdream> drez is it a console
[10:01] <TransAm> Aloha: if you mean extract then yes ... if there isnt any special parameters
[10:01] <xen_> Hey there im having trouble with Ktorrent on kubuntu, yesterday it worked fine, today it wont connect to any trackers, and no the trackers are not down and there are plenty of seeds for this torrent
[10:01] <drez> yeah
[10:02] <violetdream> drez hold down enter or keep pressing it and then when you get to the end type in y for yes
[10:03] <OshaMaHUe> hi we want to translate ubuntu to Adyghe language where can i find information about the procedure and that kind of information?
[10:03] <Aloha> TransAm, did you cd into directory?
[10:04] <drez> violetdream, i am at the end, i see ok, but enter or y does nothing
[10:04] <TransAm> yes
[10:04] <TransAm> Aloha: Yes, and i find a install.pl
[10:04] <burnz> Hello! Is there anyone how can write in German, cause my English is not so good!!!!
[10:05] <Aloha> TransAm, no configure file?
[10:05] <Aloha> trans is there a src directory?
[10:05] <nalpha> guys how to reinstall dpkg in ubuntu???
[10:05] <usrl> Is there any way to tell what sort of RAM your computer has in it without opening up the case? I have an old computer from a no-name brand, and I'd like to find out what sort of RAM I have to deal with without having to pry the side of the case off
[10:06] <TransAm> Aloha: no there isnt
[10:06] <Aloha> TransAm, i don't know then
[10:06] <Aloha> trans try ./install.pl
[10:06] <Aloha> TransAm,
[10:07] <tapas> is there a package for the 2.4.x module-init-tools?
[10:07] <TransAm> yes the ./install.pl gets it installed atleast but i dont know how to uninstall it.. and it dont work
[10:07] <nalpha> halo all.. how to reinstall dpkg in ubuntu, cause i can't install any .deb files.......... please help me..
[10:07] <bidossessi> TransAm, is there no README in your folder?
[10:08] <seon> how to see all my computer partition in ubuntu
[10:08] <seon> i have ubuntu and ms windows
[10:08] <drez> hi ppl, i downloaded the java jre, but now i am at screen with the license agreement, but i cant click ok or anything. What should i do?
[10:08] <brubelsabs> TransArm: this may help you! http://www.smokinglinux.com/tutorials/install-vmware-player-on-ubuntu-gutsy-710
[10:09] <pkundu> when we add command to "System>Preferences>Sessions - Startup Prog", which file does it keep the record in ubuntu 7.10 ?
[10:09] <TransAm> bidossessi: the nfo file states under the installnotes: "Unpack and install. Use our keymaker to register it."
[10:09] <linuxguy568> hi i am running into a problem i just installed 7.10 and it worked great until i updated the nvidia driver now i am forced to run in low graphics mode
[10:10] <brubelsabs> TransAm: Don't use warez! This is illegal, use the free available player, and server!
[10:10] <Rodzyn> seon: man df
[10:10] <pkundu> actually my problem is when i add some thing to "System>Preferences>Sessions - Startup Prog" and after a reboot/logout that entry cant be found nor the program added to run in startup runs. plz help
[10:11] <TransAm> brubelsabs: yes i want to, but vmware isnt avalible to i386 ( ? )
[10:11] <pkundu> as i said above im using ubuntu 7.10
[10:11] <brubelsabs> Yes it is! Should I point you which files to download?
[10:11] <seon> Rodzyn> do you know how can i see an encrypt partition
[10:12] <gsuveg> re
[10:12] <bullgard4> Synaptic writes: "The WebDAV module is a very minimalistic implementation of RFC 2518." Of what is WebDAV a module?
[10:12] <TransAm> Ive tried the vmware player from the vmware homepage, but i cant install windows in vmware as im used to
[10:12] <gsuveg> anybody know a console tool to provide hw information from server/desktop ?
[10:12] <Tomcat_> gsuveg: lshw
[10:13] <brubelsabs> all you need is a vmx file and a file for a harddisk
[10:13] <linuxguy568> any ideas on getting the display drivers to work?
[10:13] <gsuveg> Tomcat_, thanks, but i need a bit tune the output
[10:13] <TransAm> brubelsabs: and how do i get a vmxfile and a file for my harddisk?
[10:14] <brubelsabs> TransArm: http://www.easyvmx.com
[10:14] <bidossessi> TransAm, i believe you set those up in vmware configuration
[10:14] <arkaitz> como era para saber si tengo configurada la tarjeta grafica?
[10:14] <bidossessi> !es
[10:14] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[10:14] <Varka> bullgard4, how about telling us the name of the package you are talking about
[10:14] <brubelsabs> TransArm: easyvmx.com creates those for you, on your specific configuration
[10:15] <brubelsabs> just download and use them
[10:15] <TransAm> bidossessi: in the setup in vmware player? ... the free player can only load .. not create (thats what i figured out atleast)
[10:15] <brubelsabs> TransArm, bidossessi: No, the player just plays those files, It won't generate any vmx nor ide file.
[10:15] <bidossessi> TransAm, i thought you were installing vmware. never used vmware player on it's own
[10:16] <TransAm> bidossessi: aha, there it was :D ... thanks for the site.. ill get it a try
[10:16] <brubelsabs> but you can download them from easyvmx.com, and then use them to install your OS into those files.
[10:16] <bullgard4> Varka: Synaptic writes for the DEB program package 'lighttpd': "The WebDAV module is a very minimalistic implementation of RFC 2518." Of what is WebDAV a module?
[10:17] <TransAm> pl
[10:18] <TransAm> .pl
[10:18] <TransAm> but
[10:18] <TransAm> crap, sorry
[10:18] <Varka> bullgard4, you find the answer within your question: lighttpd is a webserver, and you are talking about a module which enables webdav for it
[10:18]  * Nikki85 is back.
[10:19] <pkundu> my problem is when i add some thing to "System>Preferences>Sessions - Startup Prog" and after a reboot/logout that entry cant be found nor the program added to run in startup runs. plz help
[10:19] <pkundu> sorry to repeat
[10:19] <linuxguy568> where would i look for getting help with my display driver?
[10:20] <brubelsabs> TransAm: what you try to say? easyvmx.com is crap?
[10:20] <Varka> bullgard4, if you had been precise the package name is: lighttpd-mod-webdav
[10:20] <bidossessi> linuxguy568, display driver? what would your problem be?
[10:20] <TransAm> nope, that my cat just walked over my second keyboard and typed some in the mainchat :D
[10:21] <CosmicBat> hmm, does anybody know howto run fsck on / without rescue cd or rebooting ? like doing 'init s' but howto remount / in ro mode ?
[10:21] <CosmicBat> umount /dev/sda1 doesn't work (?) (sda1 is my root partition)
[10:21] <bullgard4> Varka: ok.
[10:22] <brubelsabs> TransAm: reminds me on a good book: http://www.amazon.com/Bugs-Writing-lyn-dupre/dp/0201600196 full of cats :-D
[10:22] <TransAm> brubelsabs: :D
[10:22] <icesword> CosmicBat, you cannot umount / ,when system is still running
[10:22] <linuxguy568> bidossessi, i installed ubuntu 7.10 and the display worked but when i updated the drivers the system claimed that it could not detect the graphics card and insisted on running in low graphics mode. and how do i send a message to you?
[10:23] <golem_> i got a problem. whenever i open a folder, it opens in maximized view
[10:23] <Ariel`> What's the best way to remove a program that isn't coming up in the add/remove program list?
[10:24] <bidossessi> linuxguy568, stay in public so that whatever helps you may benefit others. now as to the drivers, what make of cards do you use?
[10:24] <erUSUL> Ariel`: how did you instaled it?
[10:24] <Ariel`> Downloaded the deb file and ran it
[10:25] <mitchell> man dpkg
[10:25] <erUSUL> Ariel`: use synaptic... System>Admin>Synaptic
[10:25] <linuxguy568> i am using a 7900GTX with 2 1680X1050 LCD's. and i was wondering about how your name shows up yellow when you type something
[10:25] <CosmicBat> icesword: okay cheers :) but I can remount it it seems, 'cause I just did 'mount -fr -o remount / ' and 'mount' now tells me / is ro, and I can run fsck
[10:28] <bidossessi> linuxguy568, might be because your irc client is configured to highlight whatever's got your nick in it.
[10:28] <bidossessi> linuxguy568, you still haven't mentionned your problem, if you have any
[10:28] <syere> can anyone point me to a website that truly shows the performance differences between the ubuntu lines?
[10:29] <manemusha> salve a tutti
[10:29] <linuxguy568> bidossessi, @ 2:22 i sent " bidossessi, i installed ubuntu 7.10 and the display worked but when i updated the drivers the system claimed that it could not detect the graphics card and insisted on running in low graphics mode"
[10:29] <manemusha> mi dite come devo registrarmi?
[10:30] <ppibburr> syere: performance is not easily comparable
[10:30] <bidossessi> !it
[10:30] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:30] <TransAm> brubelsabs: witch is faster? ... an vmware player in rpmpackage, or a compiled tar?
[10:30] <ppibburr> src
[10:30] <bidossessi> linuxguy568, how did you update the drivers?
[10:30] <ppibburr> source is faster, if possible
[10:30] <syere> ppibburr, true, but i have been trying to find s site that will say what the basic memory usage is, how much the OS puts a strain on resources, ect
[10:31] <kbrooks> syere, very hard to catas
[10:31] <kbrooks> er
[10:31] <brubelsabs> TransAm: I would use the compiled tar, cause translating the rpm into deb (which you should use on a ubuntu system) can cause errors.
[10:31] <kbrooks> syere, very hard to catalogue that data
[10:32] <TransAm> brubelsabs: okey, shall se if "./configure" command will work
[10:32] <TransAm> in the tar
[10:32] <syere> kbrooks, not really. it is just a matter of looking at the base resources installed and running on each distro. you write down how much memory is used, the amount of processes after startup (before addig anything else)
[10:33] <kbrooks> syere, but what about the PC you use to do that
[10:33] <brubelsabs> TransAm: No, this won't work. Just use the guide I posted before. There is no saying on a ./configure
[10:33] <linuxguy568> bidossessi, i downloaded the drivers from nvidia NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.09.pkg.run. opened up a virtual terminal and shutdown the x-server "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" then installed the packed via included gui and attempted to restart the gdm and thats when i got the error
[10:34] <TransAm> brubelsabs: Did you post a guide? .. i must have missed it :o
[10:34] <syere> kbrooks, you state what computer your running it on from the start, and use that same configuration. it would prove what distro is faster out of the box, and why. the machine itself doesnt matter, as if you took a newer or slower one, the differences in speed betwen the distros would b about the same as the original test bed
[10:34] <kbrooks> syere, ah
[10:35] <bidossessi> linuxguy568, that's not the recommended way to do it. you need to rerun the xorg-server configuration. i think it's dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[10:35] <Trist_an> Would someone be so kind to look at my bash script. I just would like gnuplot to plot the result of the first line but I don't know how to do it : http://pastebin.com/d381795dc
[10:35] <jval> hi guys, i'm having problems with wxga laptop - acer aspire 7520 - the display doesn't play nice... how can i set the resolution to wide screen when xorg always sets 1024x768 or similar?
[10:36] <syere> kbrooks, from a logical un-researched view, i would say xubuntu would be the fastest because of its xfce interface. However, xubuntu seems to load just as much stuff as ubuntu or kubuntu does, so is it really even faster?
[10:36] <jon_> hello. i am new to this. so bear with me. i was wondering is there a way to add Java to my ubuntu 7.10 system? btw, i am running a X86 AMD 64 bit computer.
[10:36] <kbrooks> syere, yes
[10:36] <jval> if someone happens to have that model and the display is working... please send me the xorg.conf file, thank you - a lot :)
[10:36] <syere> jon_ there is, let me find the link for you
[10:36] <linuxguy568> bidossessi, it says xorg server is not installed
[10:37] <bidossessi> !xorg
[10:37] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:37] <bullgard4> enouf: I have now found the answer: This module is part (or a "module") of the 'lighttpd' webserver. --  Thank you very much.
[10:37] <jon_> i was wondering if nspluginwrapper would be involved?
[10:38] <syere> jon_ i found a script that does it for me that i use. i do not believe it infolves nspluginwrapper
[10:38] <kbrooks> syere, xubuntu is based on xfce.
[10:38] <syere> kbrooks, i stated that
[10:39] <syere> but just because xfce is a light weight gui, does not mean that xubuntu is lighter weight on the system
[10:39] <anna_> server irc.quakenet.org
[10:40] <brubelsabs> TransAm:  http://www.smokinglinux.com/tutorials/install-vmware-player-on-ubuntu-gutsy-710
[10:40] <syere> jon_ go here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[10:40] <TransAm> brubelsabs: thanks again =)
[10:41] <linuxguy568> bidossessi,  !xorg ?
[10:41] <jval> ok, thanks for the url - i hope it helps me (have to check that later - i'm not currently using the problematic machine) - if someone does have acer aspire 7250 and a working xorg.conf - it would help me a lot if you could give me your xorg.conf
[10:41] <bidossessi> linuxguy568, i made a mistake in the command. it's dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:41] <jon_> okay, i will check it out and if i have any question i will come back. ty
[10:41] <syere> jon_ your very welcome, and good luck!
[10:42] <syere> jon_ PS... i use the swiftweasel option, it seems faster
[10:42] <d3ng4r_chris> Hi, I have a USB device (a phone) that used to be listed in lsusb, but it isn't anymore... What can I do?
[10:42] <cizarro> any ideas on how to disable syslogging system level cronjobs? (I have a job that is executed once per minute and having each execution ending up in syslog is not nice)
[10:42] <regius> hi how do i know what driver xorg is using?
[10:42] <cizarro> also, I'd like to do this per job (so just disabling syslogging for that one job that is executed each minute)
[10:43] <cizarro> regius, either X.org log /var/log/X.. smt or reading the X.org config (/etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[10:44] <cizarro> regius, in latter, look for 'Section "Device"' and 'Driver "foobar"' under it.
[10:46] <Ariel`> Whew... Finally fixed the problems I was having.
[10:46] <calvein> join #ig1
[10:46] <d3ng4r_chris> I have a phone connected via USB, but it isn't listed in lsusb
[10:46] <linuxguy568> bidossessi, ok i configured it now aht?
[10:46] <d3ng4r_chris> Used to be though
[10:46] <Ariel`> Many thanks to biodessessi, ppibburr and erUSUL in particular! ^^
[10:47] <regius> tnx cizarro, my X logfile worked great. My xorg.conf says nothing about anything anymore :-) (xorg 7.3)
[10:47] <cizarro> regius, ah, might be difficult to find the driver in the conf in that case ;-). np.
[10:47] <pulse> hi
[10:47] <regius> how do i config the new xorg server?
[10:48] <mitchell> use envy
[10:48] <linuxguy568> regius, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:49] <mitchell> ppl how can I write to a cdrom from the terminal
[10:49] <mitchell> ?
[10:49] <pulse> holy smokes....I think I've fallen in love with this channel
[10:49] <jhaig> mitchell: I don't know the details, but cdrecord is the command you want to look up.
[10:50] <mitchell> thks jhaig
[10:50] <mitchell> ill investigate its man page
[10:50] <regius> mitchell: mm cdrecord is the shit
[10:50] <clusty> where is w32codecs package?
[10:51] <jussi01> !language | regius
[10:51] <clusty> did it get kicked out from gutsy?
[10:51] <ubotu> regius: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:51] <rajasun> I'm not sure if it's wise to encourage the use of envy. Seems like it ain't supported. That's the official position in this channel - which happens to be Ubuntu's official support channel fwiw.
[10:51] <mitchell> but this is a program
[10:51] <jussi01> !envy | rajasun
[10:51] <ubotu> rajasun: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[10:51] <mitchell> is it possible to do it with the dd command
[10:51] <mitchell> ?
[10:51] <compwiz18> mitchell: I don't think you can do it with dd
[10:51] <rajasun> And it does seem that many have had issues with it along with automatix.
[10:52] <jussi01> !w32codecs
[10:52] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:52] <mitchell> ive copied an images with dd
[10:52] <mitchell> the shit is that i cannot write to a cd with it
[10:52] <bidossessi> linuxguy568, your new xorg.conf should allow you to run at normal graphics level, using the driver provided with/by ubuntu
[10:52] <compwiz18> mitchell: I don't think you can write a CD with dd, but I can be wrong
[10:52] <rajasun> jussi01: I know that. Just helping to inform those unaware in the channel
[10:52] <compwiz18> !language | mitchell
[10:52] <mitchell> sorryyyy
[10:52] <ubotu> mitchell: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:52] <jussi01> rajasun: yeah, col. best to use the bot ;)
[10:53] <mitchell> thanks compwiz18
[10:53] <rajasun> jussi01: yeah
[10:53] <mitchell> and sory for my language
[10:53] <linuxguy568> bidossessi, so restart?
[10:53] <compwiz18> mitchell: check out the wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvdBurning
[10:53] <bidossessi> no need
[10:53] <bidossessi> linuxguy568, just restart X
[10:53] <cizarro> mitchell, writing a cd is not possible with dd, since there is no one standard way of driting to a cd (it's complex). hence, a program is required (cdrecord) that talks directly to the drive.
[10:54] <mitchell> no for wroting with programs is ok but i want to be able to writeto a cd without a programm
[10:54] <mitchell> yeee i think its hard
[10:54] <cizarro> mitchell, it's not possible with dd.
[10:54] <bidossessi> mitchell, there's like a bunch of cd writing program available under linux, and a few preinstalled with ubuntu
[10:54] <mitchell> i dont want to use simple writing cds programm
[10:54] <mitchell> i love the hard way
[10:55] <bidossessi> mitchell, then do it in console
[10:55] <compwiz18> mitchell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvdBurning
[10:55] <compwiz18> gives you a nice console cd burning outline
[10:55] <bidossessi> mkisofs
[10:55] <mitchell> ye i want top find the way ho
[10:55] <mitchell> w
[10:55] <xaz> hi
[10:55] <bidossessi> mkisofs/groisofs
[10:55] <mitchell> anyway thks guys i got to go
[10:56] <mitchell> mwaaaaa
[10:56] <xaz> Why ubuntu is optymized for i386, not for i686, like Arch?
[10:59] <regius> is there any other way do config x then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[10:59] <ikonia> xaz: the optimisation is generic
[10:59] <ikonia> regius: pardon ?
[10:59] <mavi-> regius: there are some basic UIs
[10:59] <bidossessi> which repository is thunderbird in?
[10:59] <mavi-> but i never got any configuration that works from the X UIs
[10:59] <ikonia> bidossessi: core
[11:00] <ikonia> mavi-: drop to the console and do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" then when you restart you'll have a working config
[11:00] <xaz> What does "generic" means?
[11:00] <mavi-> ikonia: i do my confs manually
[11:00] <ikonia> xaz: generic machine / pc compatiability
[11:01] <soroush> how can i make the restrictions like removing access to cds or audio?
[11:01] <soroush> i want to do it in text mode
[11:01] <mavi-> ikonia: but you asked for a way, and there are guis for it, but be warned that they arent all that good
[11:01] <ikonia> xaz: optimisation is a false economy except in very specific siautaions
[11:01] <ikonia> mavi-: I didn't ask for a way
[11:01] <regius> mavi-: the "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" way don't let me choose what driver to use and so on
[11:01] <mavi-> oh, regius did
[11:01] <mavi-> ok
[11:01] <soroush> I know to go to user administration menu in
[11:01] <mavi-> regius: that you can do with the UI
[11:01] <soroush> ubuntu but i what if i want to do it in text mode?
[11:01] <mavi-> regius: system->administration->screens and graphics
[11:02] <xaz> Arch is optymalized for i686 and works fine on almost computers - why Ubuntu is working slooowly on new machines?
[11:02] <waiting4androi1> hi guys
[11:02] <regius> mavi-: i'm running hardy :-) and it dies when i try to start it
[11:02] <waiting4androi1> I need some help
[11:02] <xaz> hi guy
[11:02] <bidossessi> regius, are you an experience linux user?
[11:02] <ikonia> xaz it doesn't work slowly on new machines, it will work just as effectivly as arch
[11:02] <waiting4androi1> please recommend a nice software to have voice chat on yahoo or google
[11:02] <ikonia> xaz: optimising is a false economy for pretty much all senarios
[11:03] <regius> bidossessi: I have bin running freebsd for 6 years
[11:03] <waiting4androi1> ?
[11:04] <bidossessi> hardy is at alpha stage, so hardly a "stable" distro yet. if you want usability, use gutsy
[11:04] <xaz> ikonia, no - Ubuntu on my computer (I think that I can say about it "new" - c2d e6300, 1gb ram) is much slower than Arch, and I don't believe, that it is reason of more daemons, applications, etc
[11:04] <regius> bidossessi: i know
[11:04] <bidossessi> regius, plus tere aren't so many drivers to choose from right now
[11:04] <techno_freak> waiting4androi1, try gyachi for yahoo
[11:04] <nemo_> bidossessi, it failed to restart so i stopped and then started it and the same error happened. when i check my restricted driver manager, it says the driver is inuse but no enabled, when i try to enable it the system gets upset and i get dropped back to the configue dispaluy screen
[11:04] <bidossessi> your choice will depend on your hardware
[11:04] <ikonia> xaz: I think  you'll find that ubuntu by default comes with a lot more running and pretty much a defautl config, you need to tune your configs
[11:05] <waiting4androi1> anything except gyachi
[11:06] <xaz> ikonia, so, in your opinion, it isn't because of optymalization, but configs? Which configs?
[11:06] <nemo_> bidossessi, when i try "sudo nvidia-settings" it says i am not running the nvidia x driver
[11:06] <ikonia> xaz: %99.9 not down to optimisations
[11:07] <xaz> Google says, that there is something like Ubuntu i686, maybe I'll try
[11:07] <ikonia> xaz: things like what gome is linked against, compiz's inclusion, xaz the mouldes and versions loaded by default etc etc. you just need to make your setup your own
[11:07] <ikonia> xaz: your kidding your self
[11:07] <bidossessi> nemo_, you need to run the uninstall script for the driver you downloaded, to make sure you system is clean
[11:07] <waiting4androi1> please tell me something other ethan gyachi
[11:07] <waiting4androi1> and also for google talk
[11:08] <waiting4androi1> why doesn't it exist coz voice chat in it
[11:08] <ikonia> waiting4androi1 google talk is a close protocol as I recall
[11:08] <waiting4androi1> is based on open source protocool
[11:08] <bidossessi> waiting4androi1, pignin work with yahoo, msn, googletalk
[11:08] <waiting4androi1> libjingle
[11:08] <ikonia> is it ?
[11:08] <linuxguy586> bidossessi, where would i find the script?
[11:08] <Yonie> Hey guys, I have been trying to do a few things it /ect/ and i cant create new files or edit any files, can anyone help me with this please
[11:08] <ikonia> ahh skype is closed, sorry
[11:08] <waiting4androi1> pidgin doesn't have voice chat support
[11:08] <dookdook> i'm trying to get a microdia (pc camera) webcam to work under feisty.  lsusb gives: 'Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0c45:612a Microdia '.  i've tried easycam2, which doesn't find anything.  ekiga doesn't find the camera either.  any suggestions?
[11:08] <xaz> or better idea - I'll install only base ubuntu system, without many modules/daemons, etc and verify your opinion
[11:08] <ikonia> Yonie: use sudo or gksudo for graphical editors
[11:08] <waiting4androi1> yeah skype is closed
[11:08] <ikonia> xaz: how are you going to do that ?
[11:09] <xaz> afair, polish community made something like that
[11:09] <bidossessi> linuxguy586, i think there's an "nvidia-uninstall" or something
[11:09] <ikonia> xaz: but that is not "ubuntu" that is someone elses version of uubntu - so not a fair comparison
[11:10] <bidossessi> waiting4androi1, you do realize that all tose clients you want to talk to are proprietary clients and ubuntu is against that concept, right?
[11:10] <Tyczek> xaz, you mean ubuntu 7.5?
[11:10] <visof> how can i make log out from the terminal??
[11:10] <waiting4androi1> come on gtalk
[11:10] <Yonie> ikonia, but then how do i edit a file, lets say its /etc/iproute2/rt_tables?
[11:10] <waiting4androi1> uses open protocols
[11:10] <waiting4androi1> so some other client can easily connect
[11:10] <xaz> Tyczek, yeah, I think it's this
[11:10] <rajasun> xaz: if one is to broaden this silly comparison game, perhaps, a lot will say that fbsd is way, way faster and more responsive than lots of linux distros under very stressful load. Think there are tests conducted, google for them if you want. But thing is it matters not to most ordinary end users of the OS/flavor/distro.
[11:10] <bidossessi> waiting4androi1, do you know the protocol?
[11:11] <ikonia> Yonie: sudo nano /etc/iproute2/rt_tables
[11:11] <waiting4androi1> libjingle
[11:11] <waiting4androi1> I think
[11:11] <Tyczek> xaz, yea, we have something like that
[11:11] <Yonie> ikonia, thank you
[11:11] <bidossessi> the standard for voip in the opensource world is SIP; what are you talking about
[11:11] <kasper_> Hi, can someone help me unpacking .01 files with 7zip?
[11:12] <kane77> visof, ctrl+d, or just type logout
[11:12] <Yonie> ikonia, how would i then create a new file in a dir?
[11:12] <ikonia> Yonie: sudo nano /etc/new_file
[11:13] <kasper_> Hi, can someone help me unpacking .01 files with 7zip?
[11:13] <ikonia> kasper_: someone else was asking about that the other day for a router flash rom, 7zip was a new thing to me
[11:14] <Nubbie> Yonie: the touch command is good at making files.
[11:14] <xaz> rajasun, you mean, that system for end users, system, which just have to *work*, can't be responsible like systems for advanced users? I'm affraid I don't understand you ;)
[11:14] <kasper_> I don't know what a router flash rom is :) But I have just downloaded some files that are packed in .01, .02 and .03 files etc..
[11:14] <xaz> sorry - I haven't talked in English a long time ;)
[11:14] <kasper_> And I want to unpack them :)
[11:15] <ikonia> kasper_: what are the files
[11:15] <ikonia> n
[11:15] <kasper_> .rar
[11:15] <ikonia> kasper_: but what do they contain
[11:15] <kasper_> Something :) .. a videoclip
[11:15] <erUSUL> kasper_: 7z x file.01 ??
[11:16] <ikonia> kasper_ right - so it's warez
[11:16] <MikeJ112_> Hi
[11:16] <mcp_> Hi, i want to print a pdf file, but for reasons i dont understand the printing job stops at a certain page. Then i try to remove the print-job, but that doesnt work either (it reports: client-error-not-possible). So, 1) how do i get rid of this print job, and 2) how do i get my pdf printed?
[11:16] <MikeJ112_> Has anybody been able to install ninan?
[11:16] <Nubbie> if you can't figure out how to open the package, you should not see what is inside.
[11:17] <MikeJ112_> Has anybody been able to install ninan?
[11:17] <ikonia> kasper_: !repeat | MikeJ112_
[11:17] <ikonia> oops
[11:17] <ikonia> !repeat | MikeJ112_
[11:17] <ubotu> MikeJ112_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:18] <rajasun> xaz: well don't think I said that. But tests have been run to show at least for the 6.x series, fbsd seems to appear to handle stressful loads better, was speedier, etc. Should this mean that all advanced users use fbsd instead? I guess it depends on individual preferences as much as what is a particular os's/distro's target market is. Ubuntu tries to go for mass market. Some compromises here and there to beexpected.
[11:18] <kasper_> Well, I have installed 7zip through Add/remove but I can't get it to work when i'm trying to unpack.. when i want to unpack with the app 7z it doesnt do anything
[11:19] <Nubbie> rajasun: then you need to weigh whether or not there is much stress to handle to begin with.
[11:19] <Nubbie> kasper_: it's encrypted.
[11:19] <Nubbie> kasper_: and i'm assuming you don't know the passcode?
[11:19] <kasper_> Hmm.. It's not encrypted..
[11:19] <ikonia> kasper_: contact the owner
[11:20] <ikonia> kasper_: I am dubious it's content
[11:20] <kasper_> I have succesfully unpacked on my Mac and also on the other comp with win XP
[11:20] <rajasun> Nubbie: well like I said different folks, different strokes. Ubuntu suits me and most here but may not appeal nor does it claim to be a "1 size fits all" I think.
[11:20] <Nubbie> kasper_: there should be a "cue" file of some sort to tie together all of the pieces.
[11:20] <kasper_> 2 sek..
[11:20] <kasper_> i'm gonna look for it now ill be back
[11:20] <Nubbie> i would be worried if somebody tried to claim a "one size fits all" system.
[11:21] <erUSUL> !offtopic | rajasun
[11:21] <ubotu> rajasun: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:21] <Nubbie> erUSUL: there is next to nobody here looking for help, i don't see the harm :l
[11:22] <kasper_> Nubbie, it is a videoclip? and it is packed in .rar files ?
[11:22] <kasper_> I'll be right back.. 2min
[11:23] <xaz> anyway, the conclusion of our discussion is the system for end users can't be fast and responsible. But does optymalization for i686 really can't help?
[11:23] <ikonia> Nubbie: best to take it to off-topic so that if people want help they see a "free" room rather than interupting a dicussion
[11:23] <ikonia> xaz: no it doesn't
[11:23] <shomat> Hi there, does Gutsy has an AlternateCD? I want to install Gutsy on a computer who cannot boot from CD. Previously I managed to install on a similar computer using Netboot + feisty alternate iso image. I want to do the same with Gutsy...
[11:24] <ikonia> xaz: in a lot of cases it can slow it down, we can discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish
[11:24] <yon> ikonia, I dont know what to do when i need to save a file that i just created, i tried ^T, but then it gave me more options
[11:24] <ikonia> shomat: it sure does
[11:24] <yon> ikonia, must i append?
[11:24] <shomat> ikonia, It's silly I dont find it, could give a link please?
[11:25] <yon> ikonia, nevermind, sorry, was being silly
[11:25] <erUSUL> yon: in nano is Crtl-o
[11:25] <ikonia> shomat:
[11:25] <ikonia> shomat: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[11:25] <ikonia> shomat: see there bit where it says " Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer.
[11:26] <xaz> ikonia, maybe you're right, without good prepare while ./configure (I mean disabling some features) it may not help, but... slow down? ;)
[11:26] <ikonia> xaz: look me up on the linux from scratch project, I assure you a LOT of work has been done with this
[11:26] <filthpig> allo, I'm trying to install winxp through qemu, and I've been following this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo However, when I come to the part where I start up the vm and the system is about to read the boot disk (iso or cdrom) it says "FATAL: Cannot read the boot disk"
[11:27] <Linuxguy568> bidossessi, it keeps getting hun up on resatring when it tries to run local boot scripts?
[11:27] <mcp_> printing is really funny sometimes. There are pages that cause evince to stop but print in acrobat, other pages print only black squares from within acrobat but work from evince. So i'll print every page with the proper application. I just hope there will never be a page with both problems
[11:27] <shomat> Ikonia, thank you very much. I have missed that part. Thank you :).
[11:28] <bidossessi> Linuxguy568, what boot script?
[11:30] <nandemonai> Does anyone know how I can enable click wheel scrolling in firefox? (Gutsy with desktop effects enabled)
[11:31] <baimohamed> hi
[11:31] <skyming> hello
[11:31] <user11_011> can anyone tell me why i am unable to view my network shared machines and folders even though samba and nfs are running
[11:33] <user11_011> can anyone tell me why i am unable to view my network shared machines and folders even though samba and nfs are running
[11:33] <user11_011> Seveas ^ ??
[11:34] <kbrooks> !samba | user11_011
[11:34] <ubotu> user11_011: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[11:35] <^Xalastras^> can anyone tell me why my dns server keeps on changing to my router's one (192.168.1.1) after sum time changing again to my isp's (195.170.0.1) ?
[11:35] <^Xalastras^> -so im unable to view websites after sum time-
[11:35] <Linuxguy568> bidossessi, i tried just plugging one monitor in and repeating the process and it worked so it is something to do with having multiple displays. is there anything special i need to do?
[11:35] <skyming> 你没有开放共享
[11:35] <skyming> 	
[11:35] <skyming> You do not have open sharing
[11:36] <bidossessi> Linuxguy568, if it works with just one monitor, i guess, you could edit your xorg.conf to enable dual-monitors. not sure how it's done in ubuntu, tho
[11:36] <micro_cz> hoj
[11:37] <bullgard4> Gnome device manager finds on both of my laptops a platform device 'eisa.0'. What is the function of this device? I think EISA is an obsolete PC technology.
[11:38] <user11_011> kbrooks: my friend next to me is having the same file smb.conf is able to access files on network without any hassles . we both are on intranet and he has no special permissions given
[11:41] <recon69> anyone here know what threading library ubuntu 6.06 uses?
[11:42] <AAU_Johan> pthreads are installed as default addition to your applications.
[11:42] <bullgard4> user11_011: Your first step would be to check if you can ping the remote machine.
[11:43] <user11_011> bullgard4 :i can
[11:43] <chraso> hello chennal
[11:43] <system3> as
[11:43] <chraso> how do i mount my ntfs drive?
[11:44] <recon69> OK, now I'v got a program that want to use "NPTL" how can i get that to compile?
[11:44] <baimohamed> I want to chat with particular<user>
[11:45] <regius> baimohamed: /msg user
[11:48] <user11_011> bullgard4 : what's the next step?
[11:49] <Yonie> On the post https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetAndNetworking/DualHomedGatewayDHCP it tells me At shell prompt, issue ifdown eth2 command, i dont understand what they are asking
[11:49] <compwiz18> Yonie: do you have a terminal open?
[11:49] <bullgard4> user11_011: Using Nautilus > GoTo > Location > Network, can you see an entry 'Windows network'?
[11:49] <Yonie> compwiz18,  yes
[11:50] <user11_011> bullgard4 :i can
[11:50] <compwiz18> Yonie: type that ifdown eth2 in the terminal
[11:50] <baimohamed> thanks regius, can you help me to connect with you?
[11:50] <user11_011> bullgard4 : but when i click on it nothing appears
[11:51] <Yonie> compwiz18, ok, thank you, if you look at the post im trying to setup 2 internet connections, the only problem is that the other connecting is via usb(its my phone) can i just replace eth2 with the usb location?
[11:51] <recon69> think I making some progress "getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION" gives "NPTL 2.3.6" , guess I got to make some changes to the programs linking script, adding   -L/usr/lib/nptl and -I/usr/include/nptl
[11:51] <DarKnesS_WolF> i'm having a xeon server wanna install ubuntu on it should i use i386 ? or ?
[11:51] <compwiz18> Yonie: what does the output of ifconfig give you?
[11:52] <compwiz18> Yonie: to answer your question though, no, a network interface name is required
[11:52] <bullgard4> user11_011: Double-click on Windows network should display the shares available to you. If not I presume that your smb.conf file is wrong.
[11:53] <user11_011> bullgard4 : where is the proper smb.conf file?
[11:53] <^Xalastras^> can anyone tell me why my dns server keeps on changing to my router's one (192.168.1.1) after sum time changing again to my isp's (195.170.0.1) ?
[11:53] <Yonie> compwiz18, can i paste here? so do you know how i can do this with a connection via usb and via eth0?
[11:53] <compwiz18> !pastebin | Yonie
[11:54] <xsfr> !paste
[11:54] <xsfr> !pastebin
[11:54] <ubotu> Yonie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:54] <bullgard4> user11_011: /usr/share/samba/smb.conf
[11:54] <compwiz18> ubotu is lagging
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is lagging - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <compwiz18> Yonie: if you put the ifconfig information in the pastebin, I'll take a look at it and try and help you
[11:56] <compwiz18> ^Xalastras^: did you edit /etc/resolv.conf and then use dhcp?
[11:56] <baimohamed> please help me to chat with another(private)
[11:56] <Yonie> compwiz18, ok but when i try paste is says im spamming and i must enable javascript :s
[11:57] <compwiz18> Yonie: that's weird - can you turn java script on?
[11:57] <^Xalastras^> compwiz18,  yeah :o
[11:57] <Yonie> here this is what tells me: "If you're not attempting to spam, please enable javascript so you can pass the antispam check"
[11:58] <compwiz18> ^Xalastras^: that's the problem, dhcp will overwrite /etc/resolv.conf with the dns servers it recieves.  you can edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf on the prepend-nameservers line with the ip of your router
[11:58] <sdakak> I am looking at buying the T-mobile Dash or the HTC Excalibur. Would it sync/transfer files with ubuntu? It runs Windows Mobile.
[11:58] <compwiz18> Yonie: I guess they're assuming that bots don't have javascript, and people do? I don't know
[11:58] <user11_011> bullgard4 : i tried replacing the etc/samba/smb.conf with /usr/share/samba/smb.conf but still it doesnt show up
[11:58] <^Xalastras^> ty compwiz18
[11:59] <soulburner> hello everybvody i've got some trouble with gtkpod
[11:59] <UltraMagnus> sdakak: i belive you can syncronise basic PIM, but you are not going to be able to install non CAB files
[11:59] <Yonie> compwiz18, please can i just paste it to you in private chat
[11:59] <soulburner> after the 1.1.2 update
[11:59] <compwiz18> Yonie: sure, go right ahead
[11:59] <sdakak> UltraMagnus: it supports wifi. can i use that?
[12:00] <hxu> Hi! I'm using 7.10. I can use dhcp to get IP, but how can I use dhcp to get DNS address?  What shall I put in resolv.conf?
[12:00] <compwiz18> hxu: using dhcp should update resolv.conf automatically
[12:01] <sdakak> compwiz18: hxu: you are right by default it does not get dns servers
[12:01] <Yonie> compwiz18, thanks :)
[12:01] <hxu> compwiz18: Mine does not.
[12:01] <sdakak> compwiz18: hxu: even mine does not
[12:01] <sdakak> compwiz18: hxu: i end up using the opendns servers.
[12:02] <soulburner> nobody can help me with gtkpod ? because nobody answer in #gtkpod
[12:02] <compwiz18> sdakak: hxu: you can edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf on the prepend-nameservers line with the ip of your dns servers to get dhcp to add them to resolv.conf . Again, this should be done automatically, I think.
[12:03] <sdakak> compwiz18: even i used to think that. but somehow it never happened with my system. i just tried that on a fresh Gutsy install and a Gutsy liveCD
[12:04] <bullgard4> user11_011: I made a mistake. The file /etc/samba/smb.conf is your personal Samba configuration file. Its contents should resemble that of your friend's mutatis mutandis.
[12:04] <compwiz18> sdakak: it does on mine... that's all I can say for it
[12:05] <hxu> compwiz18: The dns servers are different when I'm at home and at company.
[12:05] <hxu> compwiz18: Do I need to add all of them in it?
[12:05] <whileimhere> Hi How do I get my machine to switch back to the GDM starter from Enlightenments version of the GDM?
[12:05] <compwiz18> hxu: sorry, I'm out of suggestions.  you can try searching on Ubuntu Forums or something, but they should be updated when you run dhcp.
[12:06] <user11_011> bullgard4 :it is mutatis mutandis .infact i replaced it also!!!
[12:07] <bullgard4> user11_011: But still after rebooting Nautilus cannot see your friend's share?
[12:07] <user11_011> bullgard4 :and the worst thing is he doesnt have samba running when checked in adminstration->services and i have both samba and nfs running!!!!
[12:08] <bidossessi> user11_011, can you use smbclient and find the share you are looking for?
[12:09] <bullgard4> user11_011: NFS does not matter. You either try Samba or NFS. Please do not mix them (at least not at the beginning.)
[12:11] <bidossessi> user11_011, who is doing the sharing?
[12:11] <user11_011> there is a lan and many comps are sharing
[12:11] <bidossessi> what OS are they using?
[12:12] <user11_011> both windows and linux
[12:12] <user11_011> are shared
[12:12] <chimp> Hey i want to create a file full of passwords and encrypt it. 1. is this a good idea, and 2. what enryption should i use
[12:12] <bidossessi> ok, now you want to access shares on a windows machine?
[12:12] <bullgard4> user11_011: If he doesn't have a samba client running then he will never receive a remote file.
[12:12] <nalpha> guys...
[12:13] <user11_011> bullgard4 : its not showing in ps -aef
[12:13] <bidossessi> samba client does not run as a deamon
[12:13] <bullgard4> user11_011: May be you are referring to a Samba server. A Samba server may be located anywhere in a LAN, it has not to be at your firend's location.
[12:13] <kbrooks> chimp, 1. yes, 2. um, to encrypt a file...
[12:14] <bullgard4> user11_011: What is not shown in ps -aef?
[12:14] <user11_011> bullgard4 : SAMBA
[12:14] <r3r3> hilikus`, i just reinstalled xp on my dual boot ubuntu/xp laptop how do i recover grub? can i install grub via the live install CD?
[12:14] <chimp> kbrooks: is that um as in um let me think or is that a program?
[12:14] <bidossessi> try smbclient -L <source_ip> -U<user> in a cli
[12:14] <r3r3> like this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-a0b7dbaec35668690d12cc1b9a681d218c4ae89b
[12:14] <bullgard4> user11_011: Then you better install and launch your Samba client.
[12:14] <nalpha> guys how to reinstall dpkg itself?
[12:15] <kbrooks> chimp, former
[12:15] <chimp> cheers kbrooks
[12:15] <bidossessi> samba client is installed by default in ubuntu
[12:15] <erUSUL> chimp: you can use gpg to encrypt it
[12:15] <r3r3> hilikus`, meant HI
[12:15] <erUSUL> chimp: but there are a few programs to keep passwords safe
[12:16] <user11_011> bidossessi: yes. but why is it not working
[12:16] <bidossessi> user11_011, on the machine you want go get access to the shares from, try "smbclient -L <sharer_ip>
[12:16] <bidossessi> in a terminal
[12:16] <Xintruder> but but but why?
[12:16] <SRC1> hello
[12:17] <boubbin> !flash
[12:17] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:17] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[12:17] <r3r3> !grub
[12:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:18] <erUSUL> !info revelation | chimp
[12:18] <underdawg> I have a .ram file that plays a remote copy of a real audio presentation, anyone know a way to download from a queue of .ram files so I can play offline?
[12:18] <ubotu> chimp: revelation (source: revelation): GNOME2 Password manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.11-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 398 kB, installed size 1400 kB
[12:18] <NehaLeM> L000L
[12:19] <NehaLeM> L00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000L
[12:19] <bidossessi> user11_011, "smbclient -L <source_machine> -N should list the available shares on that machine . if you get a result from this command, then you can access smb shares from that machine
[12:20] <chimp> ta
[12:20] <jackdaw> can anyone give any pointers on rolling a custom kernel?
[12:20] <baimohamed> any one can help me please ?
[12:20] <bidossessi> no metaquestions please, just shoot
[12:20] <NehaLeM> baimohamed: L0000L
[12:21] <user11_011> bidossessi: cool. it does show up. now how do i proceed
[12:21] <underdawg> I have a .ram file that plays a remote copy of a real audio presentation, anyone know a way to download from a queue of .ram files so I can play offline?
[12:21] <bidossessi> user11_011, what this means is that you have all you need to access smb shares on the source
[12:21] <baimohamed> how to chat seprately witl LoooooooL
[12:22] <bidossessi> now nautilus -> network -> should show you the windows network neighborhood
[12:22] <user11_011> bidossessi: when i do smbclient -L <source_machine> it asks for password and i dont know that. how do i set it?
[12:22] <NehaLeM> baimohamed: L00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000L
[12:22] <baimohamed> podi
[12:22] <Pici> NehaLeM: stop.
[12:22] <bidossessi> user11_011, rather use smbclient -L <source> -N
[12:23] <bidossessi> -N will enable anonymous browsing
[12:23] <user11_011> bidossessi: it shows. but how do i browse on nautilus?
[12:23] <system3> hi
[12:23] <gyro54> Anyone help with a problem setting up audigy2 platinum with a external control head?
[12:23] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. I'm getting ready to make the move from my Linksys WRT54G to a Linksys N router. I need to know if anyone knows which PCI wireless cards are working with *nix and Ubuntu specially  .. I've got 3 boxes that will need new PCI N wireless cards ..
[12:24] <bidossessi> user11_011, click on "computer", then click the "network" icon
[12:24] <harnis> salut
[12:25] <user11_011> bidossessi: it DOESNT SHOW
[12:25] <gaminggeek>  anyone here know how to use at
[12:25] <bidossessi> user11_011, what doesn't show?
[12:25] <user11_011> bidossessi: whatever is shown on cmd line
[12:26]  * SRC1 is eating
[12:26] <bidossessi> hold on. have you clicked on the computer icon in nautilus?
[12:26] <ganesh> hai everybody
[12:27] <nalpha> guys how to reinstall package manager (dpkg) on ubuntu? cause my dpkg is error showing colud not open file /var/lib/dpkg/status , cause i remove the /var/lib/dpkg/* for some reasons... please help me...
[12:27] <user11_011> bidossessi: no
[12:27] <bidossessi> user11_011, ok, it's a little different in ubuntu: do this:
[12:27] <baimohamed> hi ganesh
[12:27] <bidossessi> in the nautilus menu, click on "go", you will find "network" in the list
[12:28] <ganesh> hi baimohamed
[12:28] <NehaLeM> Pici: Hey!
[12:28] <bidossessi> user11_011, better yet, you will find "windows network" in the list a well. take it from there :)
[12:28] <baimohamed> your from
[12:28] <ganesh> india
[12:28] <baimohamed> which part
[12:29] <ganesh> chennai
[12:29] <user11_011> bidossessi: i can find windows network. but that doesnot have anything in it
[12:29] <baimohamed> am from bangalore
[12:29] <Pici> !id
[12:29] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[12:29] <Pici> er
[12:29] <ganesh> oh
[12:29] <baimohamed> from tamil nadu
[12:29] <ganesh> yes
[12:30] <baimohamed> i have one doub't? can you clear me.
[12:30] <bidossessi> user11_011, the choose network instead and see if a windows network icon appears
[12:30] <ganesh> tell me
[12:31] <chazco> How can I check a truecrypt encrypted ext2 partition (full checks etc)?
[12:31] <user11_011> bidossessi: it does appear but nothing in it
[12:31] <baimohamed> how i can chat with differnt user?
[12:31] <mavi-> om the same system?
[12:31] <mavi-> on*
[12:31] <bidossessi> user11_011, is the gnome loading animation still active?
[12:31] <babo> how can i find file ownership with ftp ?
[12:31] <user11_011> bidossessi: no
[12:32] <pkundu> baimohamed, wat do you mean by how do u chat with other user
[12:32] <sajs> hello, I was wondering if anyone can help me with a ubuntu install problem ?
[12:32] <mavi-> baimohamed: if you mean other users logged in, then use "talk"
[12:32] <mavi-> baimohamed: else what you are doing right now is chat with diffrent users
[12:32] <NehaLeM> HEEEYY!
[12:32] <bidossessi> user11_011, then try file->connect to server
[12:33] <NehaLeM> WHAT'S UP?!
[12:33] <user11_011> bidossessi: that works.
[12:33] <bidossessi> chooseuse
[12:33] <pkundu> NehaLeM, Ubuntu 7.10 is up and running :)
[12:33] <Pici> !offtopic | NehaLeM
[12:33] <ubotu> NehaLeM: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:33] <bidossessi> user11_011, service type : windows share
[12:33] <ganesh> open other one and change the name
[12:34] <sajes> Is there a way to take the packages aptitude downloaded and installed and archive them somewhere?
[12:34] <Pici> sajes: sure, aptoncd, apt-zip.
[12:34] <pkundu> ganesh, baimohamed, is there any India based ubuntu support channel for Ubuntu users in India
[12:35] <baimohamed> ok then
[12:35] <Aloha> pkundu, #ubuntu-in
[12:35] <ganesh> baimohamed, : right click on the user and click open dialog window
[12:35] <chazco> I have an ext3 filesystem at /dev/truecrypt/mapper0 - how do I run a full filesystem scan on it?
[12:35] <user11_011> bidossessi: and what ip for server
[12:35] <pkundu> thanks, Aloha
[12:35] <bidossessi> user11_011, type your source's ip
[12:36] <sajs> when I try install ubuntu 7.04 using wubi, I get a apic no timer connection error after wubi had restarted, I think i've fixed this as i've added 'noapic nolapic' in the menu.lst in the grub folder, but now when I try and boot ubuntu (I believe its not installed yet), the grub boot loader works, and I get a ubuntu logo come up, with an orange bar loading below it, but it hangs/freezes at only a little way along, does any one k
[12:36] <sajs> now what might be the problem?
[12:36] <user11_011> bidossessi: that shows only shared folder's shared folders
[12:36] <baimohamed> ok after that
[12:36] <user11_011> bidossessi:sorry , i meant that shows only source ip's shared folders
[12:37] <newguyss> Hi, I have 2 kubuntu machines connected together using crossed cable, lan to lan, but I dont see them in each others
[12:37] <Dr_willis> newguyss,  'see' is vague' :) if they got ip's try pinging eachother. - If that works they are networked.. NOW if you want to share some files . You need to install a service to do that.
[12:37] <bioshock> Is it possible to install ubuntu on a flashdisk of 1Gb capacity?
[12:37] <bidossessi> user11_011, can you see the files and everything?
[12:38] <kauer> How do I associate a CUPS driver with a printer *without* using a GUI tool? (Feisty server)?
[12:38] <tinman_> rawr, my connection is pissing me off,
[12:38] <user11_011> bidossessi: only that ip's shared folder . not the network shares.
[12:38] <DongleDude> What's wrong with it tinman_
[12:38] <pkundu> #ubuntu-in seems to be a dead channel
[12:38] <tinman_> I do a "pon dsl-provider" and nothing happens
[12:38] <kauer> Also: Print jobs sent to a printer are simply disappearing. It is as if they printer is discarding the data. Any ideas why this might be so? It's a parallel printer.
[12:38] <baimohamed1> but in chat list the accept button in not enable.
[12:38] <tinman_> It says pppd loaded then nohjting happens
[12:38] <newguyss> Dr_willis: I want to share connection between both of them, I have the main computer (desktop) connected to the net, and I need to connect the other one (laptop)
[12:38] <bidossessi> user11_011, but you CAN see the files, which means samba sharing is working. that's a first step
[12:38] <newguyss> Dr_willis: I have samba on both, but nothing is working
[12:39] <user11_011> bidossessi: yes. that's long back proved.
[12:39] <Dr_willis> newguyss,  Used tobe that was a task for 'ip-masquerading' , thats not related to file shareing/samba at all.
[12:39] <baimohamed> ganesh please help panupa
[12:39] <user11_011> i can just type smb://<any shared ip> and it displays that machine's shared folders
[12:39] <Dr_willis> newguyss,  i dont know if theres a nice gui interface to enable the ip-masquerading/connection shareing or not.
[12:39] <tinman_> Also, i got pissed and rm'ed /var/log/syslog and now i can't even view thje connection status
[12:40] <user11_011> but i need the whole network to be visible in a single window
[12:40] <bidossessi> next you can try browsing the network from the same popup window and see if it lists all servers available
[12:40] <baimohamed> talk baimohamed1
[12:40] <Patrickva> Hmm?
[12:40] <baimohamed> talk
[12:40] <Pici> baimohamed: What are you tryoing to do?
[12:40] <NehaLeM> Hey!
[12:40] <sajs> Can anyone help?
[12:40] <newguyss> Dr_willis: sharing files is not my concern at this point, I could ssh from one to another if I have both on the internet, but have to get both on the net:D
[12:40] <NehaLeM> L0000000000000000000000000000000000L
[12:40] <NehaLeM> Up Windows Vista!
[12:40] <baimohamed> i want to chat seprately with other user.
[12:41] <Pici> baimohamed: Another user on your computer? Or someone else on IRC?
[12:41] <regis_grumm> test
[12:41] <baimohamed> can u help me
[12:41] <tinman_> baimohamed: /msg nick message , and read the irc mannual @_@
[12:41] <newguyss> lesh ya mohammed bedak chat separately with another user?
[12:41] <baimohamed> thank u
[12:41] <sajs> hello?
[12:42] <tinman_> sajs: ask the questions
[12:42] <kbrooks> tinman_, please don't say "read the manual".
[12:42] <tinman_> Anyone know why my connection isent as smooth as it used to be?
[12:42] <bidossessi> tinman_, ask you ISP?
[12:42] <ikonia> tinman_: network traffic ?
[12:42] <tinman_> kbrooks: why not?
[12:42] <Cheezels> hey
[12:42] <tinman_> Hmm, I am not sue if it's the isp
[12:43] <ganesh> baimohamed, : right click on the username and click open dialog window
[12:43] <sajs> well, i've used wubi to get ubuntu 7.04, and i got a grub boot error, so i use noapic nolapic and the grub thingy seems to work, and now the ubuntu logo comes up, but the orange bar hangs only a tiny bit along and wont load.
[12:43] <tinman_> I installed windows just to test this and i still connect easily with windows
[12:43] <bidossessi> tinman_, what changed?
[12:43] <ikonia> sajs: wubi is not supported
[12:43] <Cheezels> anyone good with laptops ?
[12:43] <ikonia> Cheezels: in what way ?
[12:43] <kbrooks> tinman_, the best irc manual anyone could ever get is the irc rfc, and that is so filled with irrevelant crap and unimportant info
[12:43] <Cheezels> is it okay if i leave my laptop on for days ?
[12:43] <ikonia> Cheezels: up to you
[12:43] <Cheezels> wont overheat or anyting ?
[12:43] <tinman_> bidossessi: usually as soon as I issue "pon dsl-provider" i got connected, now i just ged pppd loaded by root and nothign else
[12:44] <sajs> Ah, okay.
[12:44] <kbrooks> Cheezels, should ise power management to turn most things off
[12:44] <ikonia> Cheezels: contact your vendor
[12:44] <tinman_> kbrooks: fine, you tutor him on that
[12:44] <user11_011> i think the whole network share is limited in new samba version so as to enhance security. and individual have to be browsed .
[12:44] <baimohamed>  /msg nick message
[12:44] <user11_011> bidossessi: anyways .thanks for ur time
[12:44] <Aloha> when you use pbuilder where does it create the binary at?
[12:44] <Cheezels> i set power management to Low Performance
[12:45] <bidossessi> user11_011, not true
[12:45] <Cheezels> but if i leave it on 24/7 , will it spoil the laptop overtime ?
[12:45] <kbrooks> Cheezels, also close apps that you are not using
[12:45] <kbrooks> Cheezels, might, contact vendor
[12:45] <bidossessi> i can browse all available servers using nautilus in gutsy
[12:45] <Cheezels> oh alright..
[12:45] <kbrooks> Cheezels, we're not the vendor. we dont know
[12:45] <Cheezels> thanks
[12:45] <mhrnjad> Cheezels: try suspending to RAM or hibernating the laptop
[12:45] <Cheezels> cant hibernate or sleep, because i need the internet
[12:46] <bidossessi> user11_011, i do have a PDC running on my network, tho
[12:46] <kbrooks> mhrnjad, linux is not mac os x
[12:46] <kbrooks> mhrnjad, mac os x has a feature that lets yoiu stay connected when you stand by iirrc
[12:46] <mhrnjad> kbrooks: I am running 7.10 on my laptop and suspend to RAM works :-)
[12:46] <kbrooks> mhrnjad, but not ubuntu
[12:47] <kbrooks> mhrnjad, read above, i clarified
[12:47] <mhrnjad> kbrooks: Oh I see, .. but why would you need that feature anyway?
[12:47] <kbrooks> mhrnjad, also, when you hibernate in ubuntu, your system is fully shutdown
[12:47] <tinman_> I got dc'ed again
[12:47] <tinman_> :/
[12:48] <kbrooks> mhrnjad, after all the data in RAM is saved to your HD
[12:48] <mhrnjad> kbrooks: that's precisely what I want when I hibernate ..
[12:48] <hk2999> i accidentally clicked hide on my printer notification icon
[12:48] <hk2999> and now i cant cancel a job i need to cancel
[12:48] <hk2999> how can i bring it back again?
[12:48] <bullgard4> Gnome device manager finds on both of my laptops a platform device 'eisa.0'. What is the function of this device? I think EISA is an obsolete PC technology.
[12:48] <kbrooks> mhrnjad, so you didnt know his specifivations for what he wanted? :p
[12:49] <erUSUL> hk2999: «sudo lprm -» will cancel all pending jobs iirc
[12:49] <baimohamed> MSG baimohamed1 hello
[12:49] <hk2999> erUSUL: i want to see my printer on the notification area again
[12:49] <kbrooks> hk2999, he wants gui
[12:49] <hk2999> how do i do that?
[12:49] <Pici> baimohamed: you need the / in front, no space.
[12:49] <mhrnjad> kbrooks: I was just wondering :-) usually, you suspend a system in order to take a break and come back to it later..
[12:50] <baimohamed> ok thank u
[12:51] <baimohamed> hi pick, how to chat with different dialog window
[12:51] <kbrooks> hk2999, not sure how
[12:51] <erUSUL> hk2999: i thought that cancelling the jobs were higher on the priority list
[12:51] <kbrooks> baimohamed, type, without any space, this
[12:51] <kbrooks> /msg user message here
[12:52] <tinman_> No one knows how I can fix these probles?
[12:52] <kbrooks> baimohamed, replace user and "message here"
[12:52] <geirha_> baimohamed: which irc client are you using?
[12:52] <IdleOne> baimohamed: send me a /msg
[12:53] <Pici> !register | baimohamed
[12:53] <ubotu> baimohamed: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[12:53] <IdleOne> he is registered
[12:54] <Pici> IdleOne: but not identified.  Or you have your modes set so you can recieve unid'd user messages.
[12:54] <oliver3> baimohamed: you can probably just right click on a person in your user list and select the option to send a PM, that's client dependant though.
[12:54] <tinman_> 2 problems, a) When I issue "pon dsl-provider' I just get pppd started by root and I don't connect, b) I rm'ed the /var/log/syslog and now I can't even use plog
[12:55] <IdleOne> Pici: sorry did not notice that in /whois . and no I dont recieve msg from unid'd user
[12:55] <tinman_> oliver3: halp me please?
[12:56] <r3r3> ok i resolved my problem alone with super grub shit
[12:56] <oliver3> tinman_: patience is a virtue.
[12:56] <tinman_> oliver3: it's been 2 days since i have been here
[12:56] <IdleOne> baimohamed: you must Identify to nickserv before you can send /msg . please follow this link for instructions http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[12:56] <tinman_> lol
[12:56] <tinman_> I am getting old
[12:57] <oliver3> tinman_: no I mean, wait for me, I'm researching how to get your logging daemon back up and running.
[12:57] <baimohamed> but i can't to communicate with them
[12:57] <Adamska> hi, i just bought a netmos NM9835 pci card which has two serial ports and one parallel port. How can i check if my ubuntu recognize it?
[12:57] <tinman_> oliver3: 0/ thanks, mate
[12:58] <oliver3> tinman_: sudo apt-get remove sysklogd; sudo apt-get install sysklogd
[12:58] <oliver3> tinman_: try that.
[12:58] <tinman_> k
[12:59] <fudus> whee
[12:59] <fudus> whoo
[12:59] <fudus> whee
[12:59] <fudus> poot poot
[12:59] <bliss_> hi
[12:59] <IdleOne> !ops | fudus
[12:59] <ubotu> fudus: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[12:59] <bliss_> by chmod 700 a directry isit making more secure
[12:59] <Mez> too slow Pichu0102
[12:59] <Mez> Pici*
[12:59] <Adamska> anybody?
[13:00] <alineargolo> oi
[13:00] <alineargolo> hi
[13:00] <arkaitz> wenas
[13:01] <alineargolo> anyone speak prtugues?
[13:01] <IdleOne> !pt | alineargolo
[13:01] <ubotu> alineargolo: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[13:02] <alineargolo> #ubuntu-br
[13:02] <baimohamed> sets mode +e baimohamed
[13:03] <ikonia> baimohamed:  ?
[13:04] <alineargolo> oi
[13:04] <loca|host> hello
[13:04] <arthur37854> i have a question about an mp3 player.how do i make it mountable. the only way i can mount it now is to reboot, once i unmount it i have to restart to mount it again
[13:05] <erUSUL> alineargolo: /join #ubuntu-br
[13:05] <loca|host> is there any utility that can zoom over a zone on my desktop ?
[13:05] <bidossessi> for heaven's sake can someone just remind this guy that this is not a socializing chatroom?
[13:05] <alineargolo> alguem fala portugues?
[13:05] <ikonia> bidossessi who is socializing ?
[13:05] <erUSUL> loca|host: with compiz or without compiz?
[13:05] <loca|host> compiz
[13:05] <alineargolo> my english is bad
[13:06] <erUSUL> alineargolo: so galego; se queres axuda en portugues vai a #ubuntu-pt ou #ubuntu-br
[13:06] <geirha_> loca|host: try Alt+1, Alt+2, Alt+3, it's enabled by default I think
[13:06] <shishio> hi
[13:06] <erUSUL> alineargolo: pon isto no teu cliente irc « /join #ubuntu-br »
[13:06] <alineargolo> but como faço para ir até lá
[13:06] <geirha_> loca|host: sorry, Windows key instead of Alt
[13:06] <IdleOne> alineargolo: /join #ubuntu-pt
[13:07] <loca|host> geirha_, ok thanks
[13:07] <titusg> printing has been broken for me by gutsy updates today -- any ideas?
[13:07] <erUSUL> alineargolo: co comando que te din  « /join #ubuntu-br »
[13:07] <jeremie> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[13:07] <jeremie> i need help with that
[13:08] <jeremie> ubuntu froze while doing a distro upgrade
[13:08] <geirha_> arthur37854: is the DAP a mass storage device?
[13:08] <arthur37854> can anybody tell me how i make my mp3 player mount? the only way i get it to mount is on a boot, if i unmount it i have to reboot to mount it again
[13:08] <arthur37854> i had to install mtp
[13:08] <arthur37854> what is dap?
[13:09] <bidossessi> arthur37854, when you insert it, do you get any message in dmesg?
[13:09] <arthur37854> i can check
[13:09] <geirha_> arthur37854: dap is digital audio player. A more general term for mp3-player
[13:10] <NehaLeM> Bye
[13:10] <bidossessi> arthur37854, if you have lsusb available on your system, try it in a commandline after plugging your device
[13:11] <arthur37854> it shows up in lsusb and i get a dmesg
[13:11] <arthur37854> it all looks good but in no xpert
[13:11] <arthur37854> shows up in dmesg as a generic audio device
[13:12] <arthur37854> but there is no way to mount it?
[13:13] <bidossessi> arthur37854, what device name is it associated with in dmesg?
[13:15] <jeremie> can someone help me with this
[13:15] <jeremie> http://pastebin.com/m60926428
[13:16] <kauer> Text sent to my printer is just disappearing (i.e., the printer prints nothing, CUPS says the file is being printed, a few seconds later CUPS says the file has been printed, and the job is gone from the queue. I think this is because the printer has no driver. Plain text isn't something it understands, so it just discards it. I think need to know how to associate a driver with the printer. The printer is visible in CUPS, but I don't know how to tell CUPS 
[13:16] <arthur37854> not excatly sure what it says in dmesg,
[13:16] <arthur37854> I AM NOT THAT FAR ADVANCED YET.....
[13:16] <osxdude> :P
[13:17] <erUSUL> jeremie: sudo dpkg-reconfigure acpid
[13:17] <titusg> cups won't start after updates today -- how do I work out why?
[13:18] <bidossessi> arthur37854, the pastebin it "dmesg>dmesg.txt" and paste the content of that file in pastebin
[13:18] <ushimitsudoki> kauer: A thought: I had that problem with my HP LaserJet, and when it happens I have to cycle the power on the printer. It has drivers, though. Just something to check.
[13:18] <erUSUL> titusg: look into /var/log/cups/*
[13:18] <MW0o0WM> Can anyone give advice on trying to install os into a Sony vaio CR
[13:18] <bliss_> to get rid of everything rm -rf /* as root
[13:18] <bidossessi> !ops | bliss
[13:18] <ubotu> bliss: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[13:18] <jeremie> erusul /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: acpid is broken or not fully installed
[13:19] <bidossessi> i really believe this kind of stupid remark should be acted upon very severely
[13:21] <Seveas> bidossessi, it is, bliss is banned now :)
[13:21] <arthur37854> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53169/
[13:21] <agamum> hi all!
[13:21] <Babas> I every body, I've a question concerning a particularity about E17. There is an E17 user?
[13:22] <yao_ziyuan> would like to query here about what pretty themes you use instead of the default human theme
[13:22] <Seveas> !themes | yao_ziyuan
[13:22] <ubotu> yao_ziyuan: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[13:22] <arthur37854> did the pastebin work?
[13:22] <Seveas> lots and lots of 'em :)
[13:22] <kubitz> Hello! I have a DVD writing question using Ubuntu's Gnome Writer - First of all, I'm assuming it's a variation of Gnome Baker? Why can't I write to DVD-R discs?
[13:22] <bidossessi> arthur37854, ok your device is sdf1
[13:23] <arthur37854> and
[13:23] <kubitz> It says only DVD+R is supported
[13:23] <titusg> erUSUL: thanks, I'm looking there now
[13:23] <smyds> hi
[13:23] <bidossessi> arthur37854, try "df" in console to see if it's been mounted.
[13:23] <kubitz> But the device used to write minus R discs in Windows
[13:23] <yao_ziyuan> Seveas: yes, i know some of these sources, but i want real stories
[13:23]  * calc wonders what obvious statement will get someone banned next
[13:23] <arthur37854> df in terminal?
[13:24] <bidossessi> arthur37854, yes
[13:24]  * calc thinks there must be a backstory on bliss since that looked way over-reactionary
[13:24] <pewpewpew> Does anyone know a way to export passwords and cookies from firefox?
[13:24] <tinman_> Jan 23 11:02:00 compremised pppd[6277]: Connection terminated.
[13:24] <tinman_> Jan 23 11:02:00 compremised pppd[6277]: Modem hangup
[13:24] <tinman_> Jan 23 11:02:46 compremised pppd[6703]: Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded.
[13:24] <tinman_> Jan 23 11:02:46 compremised pppd[6705]: pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid 0
[13:24] <smyds> I need some help with an ATI RV530LE chipset :/
[13:24] <titusg> erUSUL: access_log and error_log are empty
[13:24] <tinman_> That's what I have been talking about
[13:24] <arthur37854> i dont see sdf1
[13:24] <mc2_> whats the best desktop publishing software for gnome/ubuntu?
[13:24] <elkbuntu> !paste | tinman_ in future, please use this:
[13:24] <ubotu> tinman_ in future, please use this:: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:25]  * calc personally likes using dd to get rid of everything but won't state how so he won't get banned ;-)
[13:25] <simNIX> Afternoon
[13:25] <tinman_> ...
[13:25] <Babas> is there an E17 user for a small problem?
[13:25] <kubitz> pewpewpew I think Opera can import them so they must be accessible somewhere?
[13:26] <IdleOne> calc: to many /me's is a good way to add to channel scroll and have Seveas kick/ban you also. ( depending how much of a bad mood he is in )
[13:26] <arthur37854>  i dont see sdf1 after typing df in terminal
[13:26] <ushimitsudoki> !ask | Babas
[13:26] <ubotu> Babas: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:26] <simNIX> I just installed ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso through nfs on my pxe boot server. Desktop boots all looks fine - dhcp gives network seting through only resolv.conf not ... I have to set dns manauly every boot -> is there a way to get around this ?
[13:27] <calc> IdleOne: if i get banned its just less likely i will be around to answer any openoffice questions ;)
[13:27] <kubitz> I'll be back later
[13:27] <arthur37854> if i reboot it will be mounted on boot, if i unmount it, i will have to restart the computer to mount it again
[13:28] <mc2_> whats the best desktop publishing software for gnome/ubuntu?
[13:28] <IdleOne> calc: #openoffice.org
[13:28] <Babas> Ok, I've a problem on E17 when I make an "alt+tab", the small window that list all window keep opened (I've to make "Escape")
[13:28] <Pici> simNIX: You can add a line to /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf with your dns servers. Mine looks like this: prepend domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220;
[13:28] <baimohamed>  /msg nickserv link mpower_server mpower
[13:28] <calc> IdleOne: well ubuntu specific ones seeing as i am the Ubuntu openoffice maintainer
[13:29] <mc2_>  /msg identify poadifopda
[13:29] <simNIX> Pici: I have in dhcp server line
[13:29] <simNIX>   option domain-name-servers 192.168.5.254;
[13:29] <simNIX> other pcs pick corect dns up
[13:29] <Pici> mc2_: Time to change your password.
[13:30] <simNIX> client you say ...
[13:30] <Pici> simNIX: The 'prepend' option will tell it to put those dns servers before the any others it grabs from dhcp.
[13:30] <simNIX> but do I have to add it every reboot ?
[13:30] <bidossessi> arthur37854, i think you could use gnome-mount -d /dev/sdf1
[13:30] <Pici> simNIX: Nope, it'll be there forever.
[13:30] <bidossessi> arthur37854, try that, though this should have been automatic
[13:31] <IdleOne> heh so your status as a maintainer is what keeps you from being banned? did not think that #ubuntu's were run that way. Ops are chosen for they're ability to judge situations quickly and accordingly and also because they believe in the Ubuntu philosophy. your attitude shows me that you believe in nothing of the kind
[13:31] <seanh> .quit
[13:31] <jon_> hello.
[13:32] <baimohamed>  /msg mpower_server
[13:32] <jon_> do you accept questions regarding Fedora 8?
[13:32] <simNIX> still wonders how Ubuntu Live cd (read-only) can remember
[13:32] <arthur37854> it is not mounted, i typed gnome-mount -d /dev/sdf1 in terminal, no icon on desktop or not in the file manager
[13:32] <m1xszeh> quick question guys: are the nvidia accelerated drivers the same as the drivers from the official site?
[13:32] <bidossessi> probably not
[13:32] <Pici> jon_: no, as this is the Ubuntu support channel.
[13:32] <Pici> jon_: try #fedora perhaps.
[13:33] <IdleOne> calc: ops are not and should not be exempt from the rules of #ubuntu your status as a maintainer means nothing to me. you break the rules you should be banned.
[13:33] <mc2_> go talk to the man
[13:33] <jon_> ok. my bad
[13:33] <jon_> ty
[13:33] <FFighter> hello
[13:33] <FFighter> anyone ever got the latest version of Windows Live Messenger to work under Ubuntu via wine?
[13:34] <arthur37854> the only way for me to mount sdf1 is to reboot with the device pluged in. if i unmount sdf1 then i have to reboot to have it mounted again..?
[13:34] <FFighter> I know I can use Pidgin, I'm just curious - btw, Pidgin does not support advanced features such as videoconference and audio
[13:34] <bidossessi> FFighter, why would anyone want to do that seeing as pigdin does an excellent work
[13:35] <FFighter> bidossessi, for the reasons I just stated
[13:35] <guigouz> any ideas on how to change the default ubuntu language on the console ? I tried creating /etc/default/locale, but no luck after reboot.
[13:35] <calc> IdleOne: wasn't arguing that point, i was just pointing out someone got banned for something that could not be interpreted in a way to cause harm
[13:35] <Pici> FFighter: Have you checked the wine appdb?
[13:35] <Pici> !locale | guigouz
[13:35] <ubotu> guigouz: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[13:35] <calc> IdleOne: and then you mentioned that i could banned for merely using /me once
[13:35] <arthur37854> if your looking for yahoo voice and webcam use gyache
[13:36] <m1xszeh> are the nvidia accelerated drivers which are automatically assigned by ubuntu the same as the drivers from the official site?
[13:36] <calc> for anyone to misconstrue this: "07:18 < bliss_> to get rid of everything rm -rf /* as root
[13:36] <calc> " would take a lot of effort
[13:36] <tinman_> FFighter: there is gyachi for yahoo messanger, and it ha svoice
[13:37] <tinman_> er, voice chat*
[13:37] <bidossessi> calc,  lol. pretty explicit, and potentially damaging; definitely qualifies for a ban
[13:37] <titusg> sorry for repeating myself but I take it there's noone here who broke cups with an update today or recently, or who knows how I should downgrade/other fix?
[13:37] <IdleOne> the ubuntu-ops decision is final. if you feel that someone has been unjustly banned then take it up in #ubuntu-ops . making remarks in a open support channel about your disagreement with the decision of the ops is irresponsible and offtopic. as is this entire conversation we are having
[13:37] <calc> bidossessi: and he said exactly what it would do, so i don't see why a ban would even begin to be considered
[13:38] <guigouz> Pici: that tells me to install a package that does not exist on gutsy (localeconf)
[13:38] <arthur37854> if you get gyachi for the voice and cam to work you will need to download the plugins also
[13:39] <ganesh> how to solve the grub problem when i make a partition & copied the filesystem from live cd
[13:39] <arthur37854> is there a command i can type in terminal to mount all unmounted devices?
[13:39] <baimohamed> hi
[13:39] <guigouz> any ideas on how to change the default ubuntu language on the console ? I tried creating /etc/default/locale, but no luck after reboot.
[13:39] <ganesh> please help me to resolve my problem
[13:40] <ganesh> baimohamed, hi
[13:40] <ganesh> how to solve the grub problem when i make a partition & copied the filesystem from live cd
[13:40] <IdleOne> !locales | guigouz
[13:40] <ubotu> guigouz: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[13:40] <ikonia> ganesh: ou can't copy the file system from the livecd
[13:40] <ikonia> ganesh: the installer copies the correct files to your file systme
[13:40] <ushimitsudoki> arthur37854: man mount ... but I think "sudo mount -a" will mount everything in fstab
[13:41] <guigouz> IdleOne: the package "localeconf" does not exist on gutsy, the only documentation i found was about /etc/default/locale, which does not work.
[13:41] <bidossessi> ushimitsudoki, this is a hal issue (usb device)
[13:41] <ushimitsudoki> bidossessi: srry ... missed that
[13:41] <ganesh> ikonia, i copied the whole file & i booted that by manuallysystem
[13:41] <arthur37854> what is the proper way to add a device to /etc/fstab?
[13:41] <IdleOne> !info localeconf
[13:41] <ubotu> Package localeconf does not exist in gutsy
[13:41] <l3ttuc3> i've got a very strange behaviour in gnome with icon themes and openoffice.
[13:41] <ikonia> ganesh: you can't copy the file system from the livecd to a disk partition
[13:41] <l3ttuc3> if i use anything but the default human theme in ubuntu with gnome, no icons appear inside openoffice, and some dialogs are completely missing.
[13:42] <tinman_> ikonia: i hink he means he screwed his grub while installing ubuntu
[13:42] <ikonia> tinman_: thats not what I'm picking up
[13:42] <bidossessi> arthur37854, you shouldn't have to, what we need to figure out is if your hald daemon is working right, and if gnome-mount is allowed to mount your device
[13:42] <IdleOne> guigouz: go to System > preferences > languages and location
[13:42] <Agent_bob> i'm having a problem with mc, i can't execute any commands from it  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d35090f2e  anyone have any clue what might cause this ?
[13:42] <guigouz> IdleOne: I'm on the console.. no X here.
[13:43] <baimohamed> hello ganesh
[13:43] <IdleOne> ahhhh
[13:43] <k3zo> during startup I have fusion-icon and awn and gnome-do all start using the sessions menu and adding the command (without & on awn) is there a better way to have these start automatically with ubuntu
[13:43] <baimohamed> are u working in ?
[13:43] <guigouz> erad about /etc/environment now
[13:43] <guigouz> *read
[13:43] <guigouz> let's see if it works
[13:43] <arthur37854> Question? : i have an mp3 player. the only way i can get it to mount is to have it pluged in and reboot. is there a way to have the computer reconize the drive when i plug it into my usb drive.
[13:44] <bidossessi> is there a user_level frontend for hal_mount?
[13:44] <Agent_bob> arthur37854 you should be able to mount it manually.
[13:44] <baimohamed>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[13:45] <arthur37854> how do i mount it manually?
[13:45] <arthur37854> sudo -i mount -a dont work
[13:45] <bidossessi> arthur37854, mount -a will only mount devices listed in fstab
[13:45] <baimohamed>  /mode baimohamed -w
[13:45] <Agent_bob> arthur37854 with the mount command.  and no -a only works on things defined in the fstab
[13:45] <IdleOne> baimohamed: when issuing /msg or /command do not put any space in front
[13:46] <tinman_> k, i guess I am not getting the help, gooebye @_@
[13:46] <bidossessi> you can try mount /dev/sdf1 /targetfolder
[13:46] <Agent_bob> arthur37854   sudo mount <device> <place>
[13:46] <arthur37854> ok, what command should i ues to mount it then?
[13:46] <arthur37854> ok
[13:46] <Agent_bob> i'm having a problem with mc, i can't execute any commands from it  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d35090f2e  anyone have any clue what might cause this ?
[13:46] <guigouz> IdleOne: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=633614
[13:47] <bidossessi> Agent_bob, since the device is a usb device that gets identified and assigned a device name, shouldn't hald be handling it?
[13:47] <piraniaaaa> hi, I need help... I want to start my PC without a monitor attached to it... It doesn't seem to start without it. What do I need to do?
[13:48] <Agent_bob> bidossessi according to the ubuntu patern,  yes.   but it obviously isn't.
[13:48] <k3zo> during startup I have fusion-icon and awn and gnome-do all start using the sessions menu and adding the command (without & on awn) is there a better way to have these start automatically with ubuntu
[13:48] <n2diy_> ! headless
[13:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about headless - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:49] <Agent_bob> piraniaaaa what do you mean "doesn't start withoug it"   bios set to halt on all errors or something ?
[13:49] <IdleOne> guigouz: so you got it working :) nice job
[13:49] <Agent_bob> without ^
[13:49] <guigouz> hope so, will check in a couple of minutes.
[13:49] <guigouz> thanks for the help
[13:49] <k3zo> whats the difference between the console you get when you press ctrl+alt+F4 and the one you get at ctrl+alt+F2
[13:49] <piraniaaaa> Agent_bob: actually, it does start WITH the monitor attached, it doesn't without it
[13:50] <Agent_bob> piraniaaaa check your bios   "halt on error"   setting
[13:50] <piraniaaaa> Agent_bob: I think the problem is that X doesn't 'see' my monitor and thinks: 'something is wrong here'
[13:50] <piraniaaaa> Agent_bob:  ok
[13:50] <piraniaaaa> Agent_bob: i will
[13:50] <bidossessi> arthur37854, mounting devices that way is not recomended tho; you need to figure out why hald is not
[13:50] <n2diy_> k3zo: nothing? QSL?
[13:50] <k3zo> QSL?
[13:50] <Agent_bob> piraniaaaa X ?    you don't run xorg on a headless box ???
[13:51] <ikonia> Agent_bob: sure you can
[13:51] <Agent_bob> ikonia why would you ?
[13:51] <n2diy_> k3zo: nevermind, your nick looks like a call sign. :)
[13:51] <ikonia> Agent_bob: remote connections, some apps depend on it
[13:51] <zth> is there any site where i can upload a file and then check what ip it registers for the upload? need to know if firefox will upload through tor aswell when its turned on
[13:51] <k3zo> ham radio?
[13:51] <n2diy_> k3zo: yep.
[13:51] <k3zo> ;)
[13:52] <Agent_bob> ikonia hmmm ok.   well piraniaaaa needs to know how to run X headless then
[13:52] <k3zo> thought it might be nothing just curious why I needed access to 2 diff consoles
[13:52] <ikonia> Agent_bob: you don't actually run it as there is no monitor - you just allow clients to launch it
[13:52]  * Agent_bob doesn't even run X on anything.
[13:52] <k3zo> is there a way to have programs start during boottime without adding them to the sessions startup
[13:52] <richee> Is anyone familiar with the svn tag command svn copy https://svn.jboss.org/repos/jbossas/trunk https://svn.jboss.org/repos/jbossas/tags/Rel_2_3_0_0 "Creating a tag". I want to also add the bug numbers what is the option should I give ?
[13:52] <richee> ??
[13:54] <sajes> How do I stop 'nm-applet' from starting up?
[13:55] <Agent_bob> k3zo no differance except one is tty4 and the other tty2   there are 7 active ttys in default ubuntu  1-7 and xorg is running in tty7   plus one inactive tty8  usplash uses it.  you can open as many consoles as you like   openvt -s
[13:56] <titusg> I have got to stop installing updates as soon as they come out. apt breakage has got to be my biggest headache with ubuntu
[13:56] <rafaelsoaresb1> I've used amule but kad is firewalled. :( I've already openned the ports on firestarter.
[13:56] <k3zo> Agent_bob: cheers for the headsup
[13:57] <Agent_bob> k3zo also handy   alt+[left or right arrow keys]    to step up or down the active ttys
[13:58] <k3zo> Agent_bob: i love learning ubuntu, cheers again.
[13:58] <Agent_bob> k3zo but it doesn't break you out of xorg :)
[13:58] <k3zo> interesting
[13:59] <Agent_bob> k3zo well that part is not ubuntu,  it's linux   common to most all *nix's
[13:59] <k3zo> thats even better news
[14:00] <Agent_bob> k3zo also handy if you have to do things in a console and the text scrolls by out of sight    shift+page_up     consoles can scroll       *but, the buffer is cleared when you change ttys*
[14:02] <kauer> last shot for the night: Does anyone know how to associate a CUPS printer driver with a CUPS printer *without* using GUI tools?
[14:02] <k3zo> Agent_bob: i've needed that tip for ages!
[14:02] <wers> how do I put bullets in gedit? :D
[14:03] <erUSUL> wers: is a text editor use * as bullets
[14:03] <Agent_bob> kauer ummm w3b lynx links2 or elinks   to 127.0.0.1:631 ?
[14:03] <erUSUL> kauer: maybe you can use the web gui
[14:03] <wers> erUSUL, I copied and pasted bullets from tomboy and it worked
[14:04] <hk2999> wers: copy/paste this • to gedit
[14:04] <hk2999> oh... sorry late reply. :(
[14:04] <wers> hk2999, thanks. no other way? :)
[14:04] <Agent_bob> k3zo yes, it's handy.  but i like to just pipe things into less    it has search features as well as scrolling and paging
[14:04] <hk2999> character map :D
[14:05] <erUSUL> wers: i suppose that unicode (UTF-8) has bullet characters ;)
[14:05] <mar77i> anyone familiar with awk?
[14:06] <wers> ooooh. thanks! :)
[14:06] <filthpig> what's the best way to mount a *.img?
[14:06] <erUSUL> mar77i: i use it mostly in command line pipes not with full scripts
[14:06] <Agent_bob> filthpig -o loop  mount it
[14:06] <erUSUL> filthpig: what type of img?
[14:07] <piraniaaaa> i am installing glibc , and the installer asks for a C but I dont have that cd anymore
[14:07] <piraniaaaa> waht can i do?
[14:07] <fr1ul^h4ck> Hi
[14:08] <fr1ul^h4ck> does someone knows
[14:08] <fr1ul^h4ck> if i want to connect on irc thorugh telnet
[14:08] <Agent_bob> repeting.   i'm having a problem with mc, i can't execute any commands from it  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d35090f2e  anyone have any clue what might cause this ?
[14:08] <fr1ul^h4ck> which is the command to type to see if someone send u message in pvt?
[14:08] <mar77i> erUSUL: do you have any idea how to execute stdout returned by awk in this very shell session?
[14:09] <Agent_bob> fr1ul^h4ck why use telnet ?   there are good text based irc clients out there
[14:09] <mar77i> fr1ul^h4ck: RFC 1459
[14:10] <Agent_bob> mar77i awk `command`     ???
[14:10] <fr1ul^h4ck> ??
[14:10] <fr1ul^h4ck> RFC ??
[14:10] <mikus> hello
[14:10] <fr1ul^h4ck> i'm coding a perl bot
[14:10] <fr1ul^h4ck> and i want that
[14:10] <mar77i> like `awk 'something'`, but linewise
[14:10] <fr1ul^h4ck> if i write something in pvt to the bot
[14:10] <Agent_bob> if you are writing in perl why use awk ?
[14:11] <fr1ul^h4ck> i read what i wrote to it
[14:11] <mikus> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Aqualooks+0.1.0+%28Alpha%29?content=50976 << look please. i don't know where to get that menu down the screen,:)
[14:11] <spider_> I got an error in partial update of gutsy....
[14:11] <filthpig> erUSUL, uhm, there are three files: image.img, image.ccd and image.sub
[14:11] <spider_> anybody got any idea about it ....it says "Error authenticating some packages"
[14:12] <Agent_bob> mar77i command | while read line ;do awk $line ;done      ???
[14:13] <mikus> anybody knows where to get that glow menu at scrren i linked before?
[14:13] <mar77i> yeah that might work thanks
[14:13] <erUSUL> filthpig: it is a clonecd image... you will have to convert it to an iso to mount it or maybe with acetoneiso
[14:14] <d3ng4r_chris> Hi, I need a little help with my USB device
[14:14] <filthpig> ok, is there a no-windows way to do that?
[14:14] <erUSUL> mar77i: you want to run (as a command line) in a a shell the text returned by awk?
[14:14] <hk2999> how do i type unicode character codes with my keyboard?
[14:14] <Agent_bob> mar77i that's indescriminant.  you may want to pitch a test string in it.
[14:14] <hk2999> like U+2022
[14:14] <napnap> re hello, how can I autorize an user to bind some port ?
[14:14] <filthpig> ah
[14:14] <filthpig> ccd2iso
[14:15] <rafaelsoaresb1> How do I to open a hidden folder?
[14:16] <erUSUL> !info iat | filthpig
[14:16] <ubotu> filthpig: iat (source: iat): Converts many CD-ROM image formats to iso9660. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.3-5 (gutsy), package size 6 kB, installed size 60 kB
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[14:16] <xsfr> i'm on gutsy now, when hardy is officially released can i update to it?
[14:16] <d3ng4r_chris> It's not recognised when I use lsusb, but it used to be
[14:16] <rafaelsoaresb1> hk2999, thanks
[14:16] <d3ng4r_chris> xsfr: Yes, updating is easy to do
[14:17] <xsfr> k.
[14:17] <d3ng4r_chris> Hi, I need a little help with my USB device
[14:17] <d3ng4r_chris> It's not recognised when I use lsusb, but it used to be
[14:17] <Agent_bob> g  not one here that knows what might cause my issue ?
[14:17] <xplozion> Hi everyone
[14:18] <MtJB> does this site crash your ff 2.0.0.11 on 7.10?  it does mine..    www.kristian-hermansen.com
[14:18] <mar77i> Agent_bob: no, i'm using awk to execute the command for every file; dir -1 | awk something | while read line; do $line; done :D
[14:19] <xplozion> im about to switch to ubuntu 7.10 x64 with my computer at work. Here at work in order to get internet access besides your domain user needs to have access you must install a M$ firewall client conected to the ISA server. Whats the Linux app for this one?
[14:20] <hk2999> ‎how do i type unicode characters? in windows i can just alt+combination.
[14:20] <Agent_bob> mar77i if you explain what exactly you are doing there someone might have a simple solution
[14:21] <scguy318> xplozion: googling "ISA Server Linux" gives me this as the first hit: http://www.linux.com/base/ldp/howto/Web-Browsing-Behind-ISA-Server-HOWTO.html
[14:21] <erUSUL> !info ntlmaps | xplozion
[14:21] <ubotu> xplozion: ntlmaps (source: ntlmaps): NTLM Authorization Proxy Server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9.0.1-7 (gutsy), package size 66 kB, installed size 388 kB
[14:22] <TheDeadSerious> hi, is there away to modify the background color in gnome-terminal depending on the host i am connected to?
[14:22] <xplozion> scguy318: Thanks, i was reading that exactly same HOWTO ;) just wanted to know another way, plus in order to get IRC / aMSN, etc you need it
[14:23] <xplozion> erUSUL Thank you
[14:23] <Agent_bob> you're joking TheDeadSerious ?
[14:23] <Agent_bob> sorry i couldn't resist
[14:23] <TheDeadSerious> why?
[14:23] <Agent_bob> cause of your nickname
[14:24] <TheDeadSerious> oh :)
[14:24] <Agent_bob> TheDeadSerious :)
[14:24] <Agent_bob> TheDeadSerious i dont' know the answer to your Q tho.  sorry.
[14:24] <TheDeadSerious> yeah, it's a great song by the robocop kraus
[14:24] <TheDeadSerious> mh
[14:24] <TheDeadSerious> or maybe as an alternate option trigger some kind of shell upon ssh-connect?
[14:25] <TheDeadSerious> because i've already figured out how to manipulate colors from within terminal
[14:25] <TheDeadSerious> but i want it to happen automatically
[14:26] <bstock> hey, anyone know why i have no /dev/eth* devices, even though 3 eth* interfaces show up when i do ifconfig
[14:26] <Agent_bob> TheDeadSerious i think that you can do what you first asked.   look in the settings menu of the terminal   and the title section   you could put arbitrary code there i think.
[14:27] <sknh> Hi. Can anyone help me with installing a debugger for PHP on ubuntu?
[14:28] <jamalf> sknh, Yeah, sure. Do you want to use xdebug?
[14:28] <filthpig> !flash
[14:28] <jamalf> sknh, In ubuntu is actually pretty simple, there's a package for it :)
[14:28] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[14:28] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[14:28] <filthpig> does anybody know anything about when the official fix is out?
[14:28] <jamalf> sknh, Oh wait, maybe not.
[14:29] <TheDeadSerious> Agent_bob: That'd be a possibility i guess, i'll try, thanks
[14:29] <rafaelsoaresb1> I want to play a game in wine, but i haven't the installer. only the executable. is it possible?
[14:29] <arthur37854> ok i have another question about my mp3 player? if its pluged in and i boot it shows up on desktop as icon, and in the file manager. if i right click on it and un mount it it unmounts, if i want to mount it again i can go to places/computer/right click on generic audio device/then mount and i can use the drive. NOW i un plug the device and replug it back in and there is no desktop icon, and its not in the file manager, is there a wa
[14:29] <sknh> jamalf, yes I would like to use xdebug
[14:29] <jamalf> sknh, Alright, let me figure out how I did it because I don't even remember now :D
[14:29] <simplyubuntu> hello everyone :)
[14:30] <Agent_bob> rafaelsoaresb1   wine /path/to/game.exe    and see
[14:30] <simplyubuntu> has anybody had this weird thing happen to them using avant window navigator? http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotyq7.png
[14:30] <rafaelsoaresb1> Agent_bob, okay
[14:30] <simplyubuntu> notice how the upside down icon still has the reflection of the firefox icon that was supposed to be there....
[14:30] <simplyubuntu> weird :P
[14:30] <sknh> jamalf, I couldn't find any package for ubuntu
[14:30] <Chamunks> does someone here have any experience with wminput or figuring out why a certain thing needs sudo to work properly
[14:31] <jrib> Chamunks: usually a permissions issue
[14:31] <jamalf> sknh, Yeah I notice that now. I'm pretty sure I didn't do it from source so I'm trying to figure out exactly how I did it. Its been a while sorry =\
[14:31] <Agent_bob> Chamunks what thing are we talking about ?
[14:31] <sknh> jamalf, you don't have to be sorry... I am happy atleast someone is trying to help me out
[14:31] <Chamunks> jrib, yeah i would love to source where the permissions are screwy but im not really sure where to start.
[14:32] <r3r3> hey guys, my main repositories are down?
[14:32] <sknh> jamalf, how long have you been using xdebug? Is it the best debugger available for PHP?
[14:32] <jamalf> sknh, OH! Okay its installed as a pecl package :) I found the guide that I used to install it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=525257
[14:32] <jrib> filthpig: the actual bug report is probably the best place to keep up on the progress.  They are waiting for Konq to work with the new plugin I believe
[14:32] <Chamunks> Agent_bob, im trying to figure out what permissions wminput needs to run so i can give it to it and stop needing to sudo it just to use my wiimote
[14:32] <jamalf> sknh, I've been using it for a few months and I love it. All I've noticed is that it automatically gives you a formatted backtrace on errors (AMAZING) and then var_dumps are automatically formatted too (no more view->source for array dumps :D)
[14:32] <r3r3> Could not connect to ch.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (130.59.10.34). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: 130.59.10.34 80]
[14:33] <Agent_bob> Chamunks in a terminal   run it and see if the error message is revieling ?
[14:33] <jamalf> sknh, But yeah, follow the link I gave you and see if you can install it. I belive that's what I used. Ping me if you have any problems getting it working and I'll be happy to help :)
[14:33] <r3r3> seems there are problem with all the european sourceforge mirror as well
[14:33] <Chamunks> Agent_bob, ill pastebin anything if anything wants to come up
[14:33] <jrib> Chamunks: have you tried the wiki page that comes up when you google for "wminput permissions"?
[14:34] <sknh> jamalf: thanks for the help
[14:34] <Chamunks> jrib, I may have ... checking
[14:34] <jamalf> sknh, no problem :) oh and the only thing is that i don't know if you can do breakpoint debugging with xdebug, i have never tried although it would be useful.. let me go check haha
[14:34] <jrib> Chamunks: and the relevant bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cwiid/+bug/140890 says the manpage details the udev rule needed
[14:35] <sknh> jamalf: yeah, I don't think we can do breakpoint debugging
[14:35] <Chamunks> jrib, that seems to be a common mention across the howto's but alas i've never touched udev before
[14:35] <sknh> jamalf: anyways, I am completely new to xdebug... let me use it to say anything about it :)
[14:36] <jamalf> sknh, alright! good luck :)
[14:36] <jrib> Chamunks: is the man page confusing?  Can you pastebin it?
[14:37] <kauer> Agent_bob, erUSUL: Yes, I found the web GUI, and I can connect to it, but I can see no way to authenticate to it, so I'm just a guest and cannot do anything administrative (I get "403: Forbidden" on all those pages). Do you know how I can authenticate with the CUPS web GUI?
[14:37] <Chamunks> jrib, i just ran   man wminput   (not sure how to select and copy everything)
[14:37] <jrib> Chamunks: just the part about udev and permissions
[14:37] <Chamunks> jrib, k searching
[14:38] <Agent_bob> anyone !    last chance to show yourself a real guru.     i'm having a problem with mc, i can't execute any commands from it  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d35090f2e  anyone have any clue what might cause this ?
[14:38] <Agent_bob> kauer not me. sorry.
[14:38] <floran> Heloo
[14:38] <floran> Hello
[14:39] <Chamunks> jrib, I guess the only reason why i havent done this yet is kus its a path i have not gone before but it seems comprehensible sorry to bother ya.
[14:39] <napnap> anyone know an app to make a mirror of a harddraive to another hardrive on the LAN ?
[14:39] <napnap> (on another computer)
[14:39] <Chamunks> jrib, I'm supprised the fella didnt put it in his wiki page on setting this up.
[14:40] <Agent_bob> napnap rsync ?
[14:40] <bazhang> !clone
[14:40] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[14:40] <jrib> Chamunks: no problem.  I'd recommend setting up a group, not making it 666.  The comments in the bug report explain why
[14:40] <napnap> and update the drive each day for example
[14:40] <Chamunks> jrib, he mentioned that it was something he wished to fix... I guess ill submit it.
[14:40] <zhaozhou> Is there a way of defining a bridge in the interface-file? i rather not have some kind of ugly script running each time i start my computer.
[14:40] <Pici> Agent_bob: You could try removing ~/.mc/
[14:40] <napnap> Agent_bob, yes, right, thankx rsync+ apt ?
[14:40] <napnap> Agent_bob, lol euh rsync+cron I would mean
[14:40] <asdrubal> How can I tell what Ghz my cpu is running at?
[14:41] <asdrubal> It is a c2d that changes speed
[14:41] <kauer> Progress on the CUPS thing. Connections from localhost seem to allow administrative access to the Web GUI. I had to install firefox on the server, and xauth to allow X11 to be tunnelled. Now I see to have access. Now to see if I can set the printer type :-)
[14:41] <Agent_bob> napnap yes as a cron job would be a good backup system
[14:41] <napnap> Agent_bob, ok I will see that, thanks
[14:41] <Chamunks> jrib, its too bad I dont know bash otherwise i could do something like this so if i reinstall i dont have to do all this again.
[14:41] <Agent_bob> asdrubal ummm cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
[14:41] <asdrubal> ANyone know how to tell what Mhz a C2D is running at
[14:42] <Vaxen> my 7.04 filesystem turns only read after every reboot
[14:42] <asdrubal> Agent_bob, dude that's not the speed
[14:42] <asdrubal> that's just cpuid stuff
[14:42] <jrib> Chamunks: /etc is a directory you should keep backups of
[14:42] <killown|away> what the best rss reader for gnome?
[14:42] <LjL> !best > killown|away    (killown|away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:42] <asdrubal> Agent_bob, so you're telling me that cpuinfo changes when my core clocks down?
[14:43] <Chamunks> jrib, any other directories while were on the subject?
[14:43] <Agent_bob> asdrubal i'm not sure it does.  you can check it and see
[14:43] <Pici> asdrubal: /proc/cpuinfo should show everything about your cpu(s) including the speeds.
[14:43] <jrib> Chamunks: /home and /etc are all I worry about
[14:43] <riaal> can anyone type my name please? testing out the sounds my client
[14:43] <LetsGo67> I have an Intel Graphic Media Accelerator X3100, will that work in Ubuntu?
[14:43] <jrib> riaal:
[14:44] <LjL> riaal: #test
[14:44] <bardyr> LetsGo67, yea
[14:44] <asdrubal> Pici, IT DOESN"T SHOW WHAT THE CURRENT SPEED IS
[14:44] <riaal> cheers
[14:44] <Chamunks> I allways try to keep my /home/ on a different drive or partition
[14:44] <Agent_bob> asdrubal everything in /proc is in the kernel area of ram
[14:44] <LjL> !caps | asdrubal
[14:44] <Pici> riaal: please don't test this in #ubuntu, try somewhere like #test or #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:44] <ubotu> asdrubal: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[14:44] <Chamunks> jrib, I allways try to keep my /home/ on a different drive or partition
[14:44] <LetsGo67> bardyr, does it use part of my RAM?
[14:44] <asdrubal> oops
[14:44] <bardyr> LetsGo67, intel has the best and out of the box support
[14:44] <jrib> Chamunks: yeah, that is a good idea
[14:44] <bardyr> LetsGo67, i think so
[14:44] <LetsGo67> bardyr: I can play SuperTuxKart and StepMania?
[14:44] <jamalf> sknh, Apparently there is something like breakpoitn debugging with xdebug: http://xdebug.org/docs/remote
[14:44] <bardyr> LetsGo67, i think so, but im not sure
[14:45] <sknh> jamalf: there is? its good news then. Thanks.
[14:45] <jamalf> sknh, no problem :)
[14:45] <asdrubal> argh sorry
[14:45] <Chamunks> but this /etc/ seems like if i screw stuff up most of the time it will be the /etc/ directory that would save lots of space in backups.
[14:45] <Pici> asdrubal: Mine shows the current mHz for my C2D.
[14:45] <LetsGo67> Thanks, bardyr.
[14:46] <Pici> asdrubal: cpu MHz         : 2000.000 , it was at 1000 a minute ago.
[14:46] <frojnd> Hello there. I'm having some problems with searching ext3 partitions in windoze. I've installed fs-driver on XP and since I wasn't able to see any linux partitions I started in command line: mountdiag E: in hope I'll be able to browse partition, But than I got an massage: http://pastebin.ca/869761  Can someone help what can I do so I can w/r/x linux's files in XP ??
[14:46] <Agent_bob> Pici thank you for confirming that.    i though i knew but wouldn't acert that.
[14:46] <LjL> frojnd, isn't that more a question for ##windows?
[14:47] <frojnd> LjL, no sice I have to do stuff in linux
[14:47] <LjL> frojnd: anyway it vaguely looks like you didn't shutdown your Linux system correctly
[14:47] <frojnd> LjL, oh..
[14:47] <gary4gar> LjL, hello :)
[14:47] <Chamunks> jrib, i love how every day i learn something awesome about linux this os rocks!
[14:48] <Larson> Is there a simble ubuntu way to make smbd run as some user other than root?
[14:48] <frojnd> LjL, how can I check with fsck for any erorrs ?
[14:48] <Agent_bob> Chamunks indeed it do
[14:48] <LjL> frojnd, just boot your Ubuntu, that will run fsck
[14:48] <LjL> !fsck > frojnd    (frojnd, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:49] <Agent_bob> ok nobody offered any clue-by-four    i'll leave now.
[14:50] <n00bs000> i want the spanish channel
[14:50] <n00bs000> hel!
[14:50] <n00bs000> help!
[14:50] <bazhang> !es
[14:50] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:50] <n00bs000> thks
[14:50] <simplyubuntu> anyone know where gaim stores its logs?
[14:51] <n00bs000> !eu
[14:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:51] <n00bs000> !it
[14:51] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:51] <n00bs000> xd
[14:53] <sknh> jamalf: in which section of the php.ini file do I put this line? /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/xdebug.so
[14:53] <frojnd> LjL, what if something bad has happend, where can I get linux rescue cd ?
[14:54] <sknh> jamalf: under the dynamic extensions section or can I just append it at the end of the ini file?
[14:54] <bardyr> frojnd, ubuntu.com
[14:54] <krept> hi i have a quick question, can i install ubuntu on a slave hdd as long as grub is installed on themaster?
[14:54] <jamalf> sknh, In the dynamic extensions section
[14:54] <sknh> jamalf: okay thanks
[14:54] <jamalf> sknh, Honestly it doesn't really matter, that's just a way to keep it organized :)
[14:54] <erUSUL> krept: yes you can
[14:54] <bazhang> frojnd: www.ubuntu.com
[14:54] <bardyr> krept, yea
[14:54] <krept> cool
[14:54] <sknh> jamalf: as zend_extension or simple extension?
[14:54] <jamalf> sknh, Hrm,. I have just extension=xdebug.so
[14:54] <krept> i'm defragmenting my c drive right now don't know if it's necessary to install ubuntu but i guess it's a good idea
[14:54] <frojnd> bardyr, bazhang alternate cd so ?
[14:55] <jamalf> sknh, do it the way the guide says though, i think i did it a little differently but i'm not sure why
[14:55] <erUSUL> krept: yes it is a good idea
[14:55] <Scunizi> krept: it's a good idea
[14:55] <krept> cool
[14:55] <krept> i might neewd your help once i get it all installed get my soundcard working :\
[14:55] <krept> not fuly supported yet i don't think
[14:56] <sknh> jamalf: I think "extension=xdebug.so" should work
[14:56] <Scunizi> krept: it doesn't help ubuntu but helps keep you wnxx sys from bonking
[14:56] <krept> k
[14:57] <Princess_of_Dark> Hi to All
[14:57] <jamalf> sknh, try it and see
[14:57] <wyclif> !hi | Princess_of_Dark
[14:57] <ubotu> Princess_of_Dark: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[14:57] <wyclif> hey everybody
[14:59] <white_eagle> !pinf
[14:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pinf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:59] <sknh> jamalf: phpinfo says xdebug not loaded as zend extension
[14:59] <sknh> jamalf: is that a problem?
[15:00] <wyclif> !openssh
[15:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openssh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:00] <makker> hi, my wifi does not come up after resuming from hibernation. When i type " sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx; sudo modprobe bcm43xx" manualy it comes up in no time, but when i ad this to /etc/acpi/resume.d/ it does not work, how come?
[15:00] <jroes> hi, I suddenly can't right click on my desktop (well, I can right click, but nothing happens), and none of the items in the Places menu work
[15:01] <jroes> anyone know what logs might hold truths? :)
[15:01] <kauer> simple question: How does CUPS know whwre to find PPD files?
[15:01] <jrib> jroes: ps -ef | grep nautilus    to pastebin please
[15:02] <jroes> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m6f4ebdb3
[15:02] <jrib> jroes: killall nautilus
[15:03] <jroes> fixed
[15:03] <Zaxxon> Hi, I'm currently running 7.04 and trying to mount a firewire hard drive that I believe is HFS (I'm not sure though) How can I mount it?
[15:03] <jroes> any way I can tell what went wrong so I might file a bug report?  or do I need to have some debugging flags turned on
[15:03] <jrib> jroes: nautilus creates ~/nautilus-debug-log.txt usually
[15:03] <makker> hi, my wifi does not come up after resuming from hibernation. When i type " sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx; sudo modprobe bcm43xx" manualy it comes up in no time, but when i ad this to /etc/acpi/resume.d/ it does not work, how come?
[15:03] <Scunizi> kauer: sometimes when installing 3rd party drivers, it puts the ppd files in a differnt directory and you have to "guide" cups to them. Otherwise they have a default location.
[15:03] <krub> what config of metacity do I need to reconfigure to regain full control of my desktop, windows are locked in one place? using metacity --replace --sm-disable   kind of cure it, but I have to do this everytime i log on?
[15:03] <Chamunks> jrib, have you tried timevault for your backups?
[15:04] <jroes> excellent, it sure did :)
[15:04] <chazco> Anyone able to help me get my USB keyboard to work consitently?
[15:04] <jrib> Chamunks: I have not, I just use rsync
[15:04] <jroes> -rw-r--r--  1 jroes jroes  15M 2008-01-23 10:02 nautilus-debug-log.txt
[15:04] <jroes> lol :)
[15:04] <jamalf> sknh, it says it wasn't? let me check what mine says
[15:05] <krub> Zaxxon-> you can only mount supported file system,  see your /boot/config file if your kernel supports it
[15:05] <Chamunks> jrib, alright thanks any ways.
[15:05] <jamalf> sknh, Oh not at all, mine says it too
[15:06] <sknh> jamalf: okay
[15:06] <hk2999> which is better? beagle or tracker?
[15:06] <Zaxxon> Krub, how do I find that?
[15:06] <LjL> !better > hk2999    (hk2999, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:07] <jroes> welp, thanks jrib
[15:07] <nintendonerd282> hey do you reccomend open movie editor?
[15:08] <chazco> Anyone able to help with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4184280 ?
[15:08] <makker> hi, my wifi does not come up after resuming from hibernation. When i type " sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx; sudo modprobe bcm43xx" manualy it comes up in no time, but when i ad this to /etc/acpi/resume.d/ it does not work, how come?
[15:09] <Scunizi> nintendonerd282: there's a bunch of them.. take a look at "Lives". you'll have to google it.  it's not in the repos but can  be had at www.getdeb.net
[15:09] <chazco> Also, how can I use a tasksel routine through apt-get? Tasksel isnt good enough since it crashes on exit (bad when used in a script)...
[15:09] <nebbit> exit
[15:09] <nintendonerd282> Anyone here use open movie editor?
[15:09] <nintendonerd282> oh ok
[15:10] <Zaxxon> How do I find my boot/configure file?
[15:12] <saman-> Hi, I am a complete beginner on using ubuntu and im trying to configure my wireless card on my notebook, i managed to install "windows wireless drivers" in the gui and I also have the drivers installed but I cant see the wireless option under Network. Anyone?
[15:12] <erawfish> saman-: what network chip is it`and what does iwconfig -a say?
[15:13] <kauer> Scunizi: Thank you - now, how does one "guide" CUPS to the PPD files, then?
[15:13] <saman-> its a dell wireless 1505 card, iwconfig says "no wireless extensions"
[15:13] <erawfish> then you haven't managed to install ""windows w
[15:13] <saman-> under wireless network drivers it says "currently installed windows drivers" bcmwl6, hardware present: yes
[15:14] <erawfish> !ndiswrapper
[15:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[15:14] <balbir> need good tips and tricks for irssi in ubuntu
[15:14] <balbir> i am  a new bee
[15:14] <Zaxxon> Hi, I'm currently running 7.04 and trying to mount a firewire hard drive that I believe is HFS (I'm not sure though) How can I mount it?
[15:14] <Pici> balbir: The irssi website has some nice tutorials.
[15:14] <krub> Zaxxon-> you can only mount supported file system,  see your /boot/config file if your kernel supports it
[15:14] <balbir> Pici: thanks :)
[15:15] <Zaxxon> I don't know how to find the /boot/config file
[15:15] <erUSUL> Zaxxon: mount -t auto /dev/xxxx /mount/point/   (xxxx is the actual device)
[15:15] <krub> Zaxxon-> cd /boot  and you should see config.xxx
[15:15] <Zaxxon> the name of the device?
[15:16] <erUSUL> Zaxxon: less /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[15:16] <erUSUL> Zaxxon: yes /dev/sdxx when you just plug it in do dmesg
[15:17] <elwo0d> hi guys
[15:17] <krub> saman--> how did you even check that wireless network drivers? which config file or directory?
[15:17] <hk2999> !hi | elwo0d
[15:17] <ubotu> elwo0d: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[15:17] <Me3W> Could any One Help me ?
[15:17] <Zaxxon> so unplug it and do "/dev/sdxx"  ?
[15:17] <jrib> !helpme | Me3W
[15:17] <Zaxxon> when I plug it in
[15:17] <hk2999> !ask | Me3W
[15:17] <ubotu> Me3W: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[15:17] <ubotu> Me3W: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:17] <white_eagle> !Ping
[15:17] <ubotu> ping: unknown host
[15:17] <elwo0d> i have created new partitions for my /home and swap, how to make them loaded by fstab?
[15:17] <erUSUL> Zaxxon: no when you plug it in dmesg will show what devive file it gets assigned to
[15:18] <shing2> #ubuntu-fr
[15:18] <Me3W> Iask jrib How would i be able 2 run steam on full screen and stable ?
[15:18] <krub> elwo0d-> ad new install or in addition to the current running system?
[15:18] <LjL> white_eagle: there is #test, there is the command /PING server (to be done in the server window), you can /cs help...
[15:18] <Zaxxon> okay, so unplug it, type dmesg and then plug it in?
[15:18] <Me3W> !ask jrib How would i be able 2 run steam on full screen and stable ?
[15:18] <elwo0d> krub:  addition to the current
[15:18] <Pici> Me3W: no need to put !ask in forint of you questions.
[15:18] <white_eagle> LjL, sorry
[15:18] <Me3W> ok thanks
[15:19] <white_eagle> it became an addiction to me
[15:19] <Helmasaur> bonjour
[15:19] <white_eagle> a bad addiction
[15:19] <krub> elwo0d-> where is the current home directory now? you plan to move it to new partition?
[15:19] <Helmasaur> j'ai un probleme lors de l'installation de ubuntu :s
[15:19] <jrib> Me3W: it's best to just ask the channel you questions.   You can try using wine.  There are some guides if you search.  Specifically, there is a guide on winehq's appdb
[15:19] <Pici> !fr | Helmasaur
[15:19] <ubotu> Helmasaur: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:19] <elwo0d> krub: right, i need to move
[15:19] <Me3W> I need 2 find out how 2 use steam on Ubuntu 7.04 and full screen ?
[15:19] <rsk> Me3W: appdb.winehq.org
[15:19] <kauer> ooooh, strrrrange. When I start firefox on a remote machine, but firefox is already running locally, the window that opens is a LOCAL one, and knows about LOCAL things. The Twilight Zone! I do NOT like that behaviour. For example, if I have firefox running here on my laptop, and I ssh to another host somewhere and run firefox on that remote host, a firefox window opens on my laptop. So far so good. But when I type the url "file://home/kauer" into the new 
[15:19] <kimmey2k3> Me3W: wine
[15:19] <krub> elwo0d-> make sure the new partition has a file system on it before adding the entry to fstab
[15:20] <Me3W> ive got wine ive installed the program
[15:20] <Helmasaur> i didn't realise
[15:20] <Me3W> but i dnt have full screen and a very low fram rate
[15:20] <kimmey2k3> Me3W: check wineconfig for enabling fullscreen
[15:20] <krept> what's the difference in ubuntu and kubuntu?
[15:20] <elwo0d> krub: i have created them with gparted and formatted
[15:20] <jrib> kauer: you were cut off at "into the new"...
[15:20] <elwo0d> krub: i have to set manually the uuid?
[15:20] <LjL> kauer, putting your question in one linea after thinking it thoroughly is commendable, but you need to keep in mind that there is a ~400 characters limit for messages.
[15:20] <Zaxxon> so when I do dmesg I get "hfs: write access to a jounaled filesystem is not supported, use the force option at your own risk, mounting read-only."
[15:21] <krub> elwo0d-> gparted only designates the partition it does not make a file system on it
[15:21] <erUSUL> Zaxxon: so the filesystem gets automatically mounted
[15:21] <Zaxxon> it's not being mounted
[15:21] <Zaxxon> I have two firewire drives..
[15:21] <elwo0d> krub ok i 'm gonna doing
[15:21] <Zaxxon> one mounts
[15:21] <Macer> good morning. can someone direct me to a site that explains how to install ubuntu-server on an nvraid and allow it to boot from the raid?
[15:21] <krub> Zaxxon-> just like what it says, you will be taking your own risk
[15:21] <erUSUL> kauer: did you export the apropiate DISPLAY variable?
[15:21] <Macer> i'm trying to install it on a raid 1 setup with mboard sata/nvraid
[15:22] <erUSUL> Zaxxon:  mounting read-only." <--- that's seems to contradict you
[15:22] <saman-> erawfish: I am sorry but I just cant find a solution to my problem, I have tried all kinds of different internet sources for almost 6 hours now until I decided to try with irc. Under system/admin/windows wireless drivers it says "hardware present: yes".. but under system/admin/network I only see wired internet and nothing about the wireless? where in the process could the problem be?
[15:22] <Zaxxon> erUSUL, what do you mean?
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid > Macer
[15:22] <erUSUL> Zaxxon: post te output of 'cat /proc/mounts' on pastebin after plugin the thing
[15:22] <Me3W> Dose any one know how 2 get the frame rate of COunter Strike Source up in Ubuntu 7.04
[15:23] <Macer> thank you :)
[15:23] <Me3W> And Make it More Stable
[15:23] <krub> saman--> system/admin/windows  ? is there such a thing?
[15:23] <Macer> i'm not doing lvm on the main drive though
[15:23] <Macer> but hopefully this will tell me how to install on the nvraid
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Macer: np.. although I personally feel soft-raid is not worth the effort
[15:23] <saman-> krub: i installed it using some guide online, i guess it reads the windows wireless file and translates it to ubuntu or something..
[15:23] <Macer> jack: well.. still need to mirror it
[15:23] <Macer> i have an areca for the actual storage drives
[15:23] <Macer> 8 x 1TB WDs
[15:24] <Zaxxon> I don't have the permissions necessary to view the disk
[15:24] <saman-> its like ndsiwrapper
[15:24] <fotoflo> how do i create a ram disk in ubuntu
[15:24] <Macer> :) 5.5TB usable
[15:24] <krub> saman--> tell me exactly what you are reading or command you issued
[15:24] <Macer> raid 6
[15:24] <Macer> but getting another raid card didn't seem practical
[15:24] <Macer> heh
[15:24] <Macer> when i have 2 unused sata ports
[15:24] <saman-> krub: , okay one sec please..
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Macer: That is a valid reason to use it on a server
[15:24] <Macer> on the mboard
[15:24] <Me3W> How do i Make Steam run smoother
[15:24] <Macer> well.. thanks for the help... i'll take a look
[15:25] <krub> Jack_Sparrow-> the LVM feature capability is only on server installs? just an fyi, on fedora 8 it defaults to LVM
[15:25] <Zaxxon> nothing happened when I typed "'cat /proc/mounts" so I unplugged the drive and plugged it back in. Then I got the message that I didn't have permisson to view this disk.
[15:25] <Zambezi> Is there inbuilt encryption i Gutsty alternate?
[15:25] <fotoflo> does anyone know how to create a ram disk in ubuntu
[15:26] <saman-> krub, I installed something called ndisgtk.. thats where i got the windows wireless thing from
[15:26] <Me3W> How do i make Wine set as Full screen
[15:26] <Me3W> ?
[15:26] <krub> fotoflo-> ummm you have google for how to on it yet?
[15:26] <fotoflo> krub, i did, didnt get anything
[15:26] <fotoflo> hmm, but i spelled it ramdisk
[15:26] <fotoflo> not ramdisk
[15:26] <fotoflo> ram disk
[15:27] <krub> id google for some more
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> krub: Thanks for the info, he specifically said he was not doing LVM, so it should not be an issue
[15:27] <Me3W> Any person Can help me with wine
[15:27] <elwo0d> krub: done i' ve created fs and i'm adding partitions using uuid at fstab, i'm doing right?
[15:27] <krub> saman--> drivers for wireless is at /lib/firmware/`uname -r`
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Me3W: Great support in #Winehq
[15:28] <lolololol> hi, how can i change the font "courier new" of wine hq in the emulated programs, like firefox for windows??
[15:28] <Me3W> Jack_Sparrow thanks
[15:28] <erUSUL> krub: there you will find the firmware not the drivers... drivers are under /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:28] <kauer> jrib,LjL,erUSUL: The rest of the line was "But when I type the url "file://home/kauer" into the new window, it sees my local home directory - NOT my home directory on th eremote machine. Somehow the request for a new window from the remote has caused the *local* firefox to open a new window!" Sorry about going over the limit.
[15:28] <krub> elwo0d-> sounds right so far, just copy an entry in fstab and modify to match your new partitions
[15:28] <saman-> krub: no the drivers are just on the desktop, in the gui of windows wireless i can point to where the driver is... according to the utilty it can see my wireless card, but it doesnt show up under network
[15:29] <krub> erUSUL-> right..mea culpa
[15:29] <elwo0d> krub:  and the /home needs some strange options ?
[15:29] <kauer> erUSUL: No I didn't export any display variables, ssh handles that automatically when I use the-X option for X11 forwarding.
[15:29] <saman-> krub: flamenko at this post has the exact same issue as me without a solution, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=613452&highlight=dell+wireless+1330
[15:29] <fotoflo> no, stil nothing good about ramdisks
[15:29] <lolololol> hi, how can i change the font "courier new" of wine hq in the emulated programs, like firefox for windows??
[15:29] <erUSUL> kauer: then dunno what's going on
[15:30] <Macer> Jack_Sparrow : that page tells you how to get access to raids already created... i found another one but it explains how to do it with ubuntu not ubuntu server
[15:30] <krub> elwo0d-> i dont know about being strange, look at the current entry for the home dir then copy
[15:30] <ikeaman> how should i share /var/www so i can access it from my windowscomputer?
[15:30] <Macer> i wanted to set the raid up with ubuntu-server and would love to find a site that explains how to do this
[15:30] <elwo0d> krub: ok thanks
[15:30] <Macer> i've been looking for a while now
[15:30] <Zaxxon> erUSUL, it said I didn't have permission to view the drive
[15:30] <krub> saman--> if it has no solution, and coming over here, you think it may magically get solved? hehe
[15:30] <filthpig> !raid | Macer
[15:30] <ubotu> Macer: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[15:30] <Bollinger> what is the best 3d modeling tool available? blender or is there something else?
[15:30] <lolololol> hi, are the same security problems in wine hq as windows xp sp2?
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Macer: I have not done a raid system in a couple years.  Sorry I have nothing to offer that would help
[15:31] <filthpig> Bollinger, Blender is the best open source, but you can also get Maya for Linux
[15:31] <saman-> krub: well people just stopped posting there, but I have seen other forum posts where people say that they have the exact same setup as me and they have it working, just that I(!) cant get it working :)
[15:31] <Bollinger> filthpig: thanks. I'll check out Maya, as blender has a hard user interface (imho)
[15:32] <Macer> filthpig : i am reading the fakeraid howto now and it explains how to do it in ubuntu not ubuntu-server :)
[15:32] <lolololol> who can help me for f****** winehq
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> lolololol: Not as bad, as there isnt much for a virus under wine to do, but you still can have problems, especially if your user has mapped Z drive.. See #Winehq for more info
[15:32] <Macer> Go to System > Administration > Software
[15:32] <Macer> there is no system > administration > software in ubuntu-server :)
[15:32] <krub> saman--> umm broadcom chips are well known to make your hair turn gray..lol
[15:32] <lolololol> channel winehq on this server?
[15:32] <fotoflo> does anyone know how to make a ramdisk in ubuntu server?
[15:32] <andreas_> hey where are all my programs stored in root?
[15:32] <chinese> o o
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> lolololol: yes
[15:32] <andreas_> i mean in what directory?
[15:33] <lolololol> k thx
[15:33] <SiLOX> Hi - I have a internal PCI RAID card - do I have to select Software RAID anyway during Install?
[15:33] <saman-> great, im just a beginner trying to set my computer up for a course in linux and cant even get my network to work yeay! :(
[15:33] <filthpig> Bollinger, imo Blender has a great GUI, it just takes a bit of time to get used to it since it's so uncommon
[15:33] <andreas_> hello anybody?
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> andreas_: You need to be more specific, .. debs you have downloaded with apt-get or synaptuc.. or what
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> SiLOX: Most of those internals m/b  are softraids
[15:34] <erUSUL> SiLOX: did you used the bios based raid ?
[15:34] <Zaxxon> Could someone please walk me through (a) seeing if my external hard drive is mountable and if so (b) helping me mount it?
[15:34] <SiLOX> erUSUL: Yes it is set on Mirror RAID1 in the BIOS
[15:34] <dissonans> can 32bit Ubuntu make efficient use of 4gb of ram?
[15:34] <erUSUL> SiLOX: then to access it you need to us dmraid
[15:35] <andreas_> Jack_Sparrow: i want to know the location of a specific program what do i do?
[15:35] <krub> fotoflo-> how to use ramdisk for linux   i use this to google
[15:35] <erUSUL> dissonans: no; corrent generic kernel does not have highmem support afaik
[15:35] <erUSUL> !dmraid
[15:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmraid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> andreHow did you install it?
[15:35] <dissonans> erUSUL: ah, what's the max then?
[15:35] <erUSUL> !fakeraid | SiLOX
[15:35] <ubotu> SiLOX: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[15:35] <dissonans> about 3.2?
[15:36] <erUSUL> dissonans: yes around there i use 64 bit (3 GiB of RAM) so dunno for sure
[15:36] <fotoflo> for mount -t what mount type would i use for a ramdisk?
[15:36] <dissonans> ok thanks
[15:36] <SiLOX> erUSUL: Okay so if I have installed it on one HD now - I have to do it all over again?
[15:36] <qbert> how can i setup hot keys to launch applications ?
[15:36] <Macer> erUSUL : heh... you have to fdisk both drives and change teh partitions to linux raid autodetect
[15:36] <Macer> then you have to run mdcfg
[15:36] <erUSUL> SiLOX: what do you have instaled on one HD?
[15:36] <Macer> and set up the raid
[15:37]  * Macer is doing this now
[15:37] <Macer> i have done this before but never with something that i wanted to boot
[15:37] <Macer> which i think is going to cause problems soon
[15:37] <erUSUL> Macer: maybe you can help SiLOX becouse i never used raid
[15:37] <Macer> like after i install and it doesn't work ;)
[15:37] <Macer> i'm doing it right now
[15:37] <Macer> i don't know if it will work yet
[15:38] <SiLOX> erUSUL: Sorry my bad english =) - I have already installed Ubuntu on that computer because I thought I only had to set RAID1 in the BIOS - aperantly I need to do some more settings in Ubuntu also?
[15:38] <fotoflo> oh? do ram disks have to be initialized at boot?
[15:38] <qbert> how can i setup hot keys to launch applications ?
[15:38] <qbert> in gnome
[15:38] <fotoflo> you cant create a temporary one?
[15:39] <erUSUL> SiLOX: i'm lost you instaled ubuntu on one of the hard drives and then you set up the bios Raid?
[15:39] <RebelX> yo guys any other ways to get flash player
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !FLASHISSUES > RebelX
[15:40] <kauer> erUSUL: If I close all firefox windows, then start firefox on the remote machine, everything works as expected. But if i then open another window on the local machine, I get a window that "sees" the remote machine! :-) At least it's consistent :-)
[15:40] <fatman> I have a question. is there any statistical tool seems like SPSS ?
[15:40] <CrazyWulf> I've been having a very strange problem lately.     Everytime I download large files, after a certain amount is downloaded (can't pinpoint it exactly, maybe 100-200MB).   My mouse will start lagging very heavily.   The same goes for transfers between boxes.  It also seems to drop my IP after the downloads/transfers are finished.   The mouse lag will continue until I restart the entire system.  All other applications run
[15:40] <CrazyWulf> perfectly normal during this, it's not a matter of heavy resource use.    Any ideas anybody please?
[15:41] <Macer> ok
[15:41] <Macer> it's building the raid now :)
[15:41] <Macer> awesome
[15:41] <fotoflo> arg!!!! can anyone help? all the ramdisk pages i googled are about embedded linux
[15:41] <jbalcaen> anyone know how to do an offline installation of the network manager ?
[15:41]  * Macer waits for it to build md0
[15:41] <dfcarney> fotoflo: you want to look into initrd
[15:41] <zizonu> lu all
[15:41] <zizonu> lu
[15:42] <Zaxxon> how can I change the permissions to my external drive so that I can read and write to it?
[15:42] <zizonu> mid+ dispo
[15:42] <zizonu> mid+ dispo
[15:42] <fotoflo> dfcarney: thanks!
[15:42] <SiLOX> erUSUL: I have a newly Installed RAID card with 2 exact Harddrives - The RAID cards BIOS is set on RAID1 Clone - I have Ubuntu installed (at least one of the HD) - During the install I only selected one of the two harddrives and installed. I thought that you only had to set the RAID settings in the RAID cards BIOS (Before I have been using Software RAID without a RAID card) - Now is the question - do I need to set up Ubuntu to forfill thi
[15:42] <SiLOX> s RAID functionality OR does the RAID cards BIOS do all the trick?
[15:42] <dfcarney> fotoflo: there's a lot of documentation about it, but (basically) you should start with initrd-tools
[15:42] <kauer> The good news is that I CAN configure CUPS using a local connection - it prompts for username and password if necessary. I'd still like to know exactly how CUPS locates it's PPD files.
[15:43] <Macer> i wonder what the chances are that installing the server on the raid will just work :)
[15:43] <Macer> i set it to boot in the nvraid config.. maybe everything will just work out for the best
[15:43] <Macer> i should have just gotten another pci-x 4 port hardware raid for this
[15:43] <erUSUL> SiLOX: no; to install ubuntu on a fakeraid you have to use the device mapper devices....
[15:43] <dfcarney> fotoflo: no problem.  you may want to ask around on the debian channel for help with it -- debian hackers are more prone to twiddling with that kind of thing
[15:44] <SiLOX> erUSUL: So what does the Raid BIOS settings do for difference then?
[15:44] <erUSUL> SiLOX: you have to flollow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[15:44] <dfcarney> fotoflo: and i just found this: http://stuporglue.org/initrd.php
[15:44] <Macer> it's taking a while for dmcfg to build the raid
[15:44]  * Macer goes to eat something
[15:44] <fotoflo> dfcarney: thanks, reading --- but there is no way to do it after bootup? (pain to do it on remote machines)
[15:44] <fotoflo> dfcarney: thanks, reading --- but there is no way to do it after bootup? (pain to do it on remote machines)
[15:45] <fotoflo> dfcarney: thanks
[15:45] <fotoflo> reading
[15:45] <Macer> SiLOX : it just tells your system how to boot from it
[15:45] <dfcarney> fotoflo: sure there's a way to do if after boot up, providing you can boot to a command prompt :)
[15:45] <SiLOX> Macer: Okay thanks
[15:45] <Macer> for installing it in linux you have to partition both drives that you want to raid
[15:45] <Macer> and change the tyep to fd
[15:45] <Macer> "Linux Raid Autodetect"
[15:45] <Macer> then for ubuntu you can either do it manually or run mdcfg to set it up
[15:45] <Macer> it will build your raid after you decide on how you want it
[15:46] <Macer> and create /dev/md0 (or whatever number)
[15:46] <Macer> that is your new raid.. you will still see /dev/sd1 /dev/sda2 (or whatever you have for your drives)
[15:46] <Pici> !enter | Macer
[15:46] <ubotu> Macer: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:46] <Macer> ubotu :) sorry.. it's how i talk
[15:46] <dfcarney> fotoflo: basically, the initrd image is just a collection of drivers and whatnot that you pre-package and place on the boot partition.  if you're bootstrapping a raid, you just need to make sure to copy over the drivers that will let you start the RAID (though I'm sure you're aware of this by now)
[15:47] <erUSUL> Macer: i think /dev/md* devices are linux software raid devices not bios software raid devices
[15:47] <Macer> erUSUL : well.. the howto tells you to configure it with md
[15:47] <Macer> i figured the actual bios settings were just to allow it to boot from the fakeraid
[15:48] <Macer> because you still have to do the mapping in order to get it to work
[15:48] <Me3W> !ask Can any one help me with installing Nvidia Drivers
[15:48] <egoleo> hello
[15:48] <Macer> but then again.. i'm working on it right now so maybe it will work ;) maybe it won't
[15:48] <egoleo> acer 4520
[15:48]  * krept is off to install ubuntu
[15:48] <egoleo> sound does not work
[15:48] <erUSUL> Macer: this how to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto ?? if you have configured a raid in bios you have to follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[15:49] <Macer> i am readin ght efakeraid howto
[15:49] <Me3W> Installing Nvidia Drivers ???
[15:49] <Macer> it describes how to do it with normal ubuntu.. not ubuntu-server
[15:49] <Macer> i don't do clickypointy on my server :)
[15:49] <egoleo> hello, i am user acer 4520 amd. i installed feisty. no sound and wifi work. i have sat on it for two days. plse help me here
[15:49] <erUSUL> Macer: becouse the first one is to make a raid volume from disks that are *not* already raided by the MB bios
[15:49] <Zaxxon> Can someone please walk me through checking if my external firewire drive is mountable, and if so, help me mount it.  Please.
[15:49] <Pici> Me3W: What part of the install are you having trouble with?
[15:49] <ekneuss> Hi, I'm trying to install a ubuntu server using an USB drive, first of all, all guides around mention "casper", and no such thing is present in the server iso ?
[15:49] <Me3W> Installing the Nidia drivers
[15:50] <Owleto> Hi! I have a 10 years old comp with a new 250Gb Hd which has potentially some trouble to be properly detected by its real size. have i to install the "big drive enabler" before ubuntu or not?
[15:50] <Me3W> Poco: i have the drivers on my desktop the install file but nt able 2 install it
[15:50] <dfcarney> !nvidia > Me3W
[15:50] <erUSUL> Macer: if you are not going to use the raid on windows it is faster to not use the bios raid and use the linux software raid
[15:50] <CrazyWulf> I've been having a very strange problem lately.     Everytime I download large files, after a certain amount is downloaded (can't pinpoint it exactly, maybe 100-200MB).   My mouse will start lagging very heavily.   The same goes for transfers between boxes.  It also seems to drop my IP after the downloads/transfers are finished.   The mouse lag will continue until I restart the entire system.  All other applications run
[15:50] <CrazyWulf> perfectly normal during this, it's not a matter of heavy resource use.    Any ideas anybody please?
[15:51] <filthpig> !compiz-custom
[15:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz-custom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:51] <egoleo> anyone plse
[15:51] <filthpig> !compiz
[15:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[15:51] <ekneuss> well, what is "casper" anyway ?
[15:51] <jetscreamer> a friendly ghost
[15:51] <Me3W> Pici: Any way i can just install them ?
[15:52] <krub> what config of metacity do I need to reconfigure to regain full control of my desktop, windows are locked in one place? using metacity --replace --sm-disable   kind of cure it, but I have to do this everytime I log on?
[15:52] <Pici> Me3W: Have you tried using the Restricted Drovers Manager?
[15:52] <Me3W> Pici : Yes i have but it Gives me an error that i Have the oldist Drivers fro game  etc
[15:52] <Me3W> for
[15:52] <Pici> Me3W: oldist?
[15:53] <krub> also the gnome session windows keeps popping up, I can not close it
[15:53] <bengee_> anyone can help me with my installation of ati radeon 9600 with ubuntu 7.10?
[15:53] <Me3W> Pici : Meaning steam will only give me a Direct x of 8.1
[15:53] <Me3W> Pici : i Need 9c or some thing higher than i have now
[15:53] <aoupi> how can I stop update-notifier from showing that yellow textbox?
[15:53] <Pici> Me3W: In Ubuntu?
[15:53] <Me3W> Pici : Yes
[15:54] <Me3W> Pici : is it possible 2 install the Driver from the Nvidia website but i tried and gave me some error
[15:54] <Pici> Me3W: What error?
[15:54] <bentob0x> when you install php5 and php5-cgi, does php5-cgi 'overwrites' the php5 apache install (libapache2-mod-php5)?  Or does it simply install php5-cgi along with php5 for apache?
[15:54] <bengee_> is there a command that shows me what graphic card i got?
[15:55] <bengee_> (to see wether it is detected)
[15:55] <erUSUL> Me3W: changing the nvidia driver will not change the directx version showed by wine afaics
[15:55] <Me3W> erUSUL : But how is it possible installing the drivers
[15:55] <aoupi> Is it possible to force update-manager to not open a bunch of new windows all the time during update? They tend to get in the way
[15:55] <Macer> everything erUSUL : every page i have read requires using md
[15:55] <erUSUL> Me3W: i seem to recall a how to install directx 9 on wine.... search on google
[15:56] <Me3W> Any one used Steam before ?
[15:56] <Macer> :) fakeraid sucks.. heh. my areca just popped up as a 6TB scsi drive  and all i had to do was make LVMs on it
[15:56] <Me3W> On ubuntu
[15:56] <LjL-Temp> bengee_: sudo lshw -C display
[15:56] <erUSUL> Me3W: http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/11/directx-90c-on-linux-with-wine.html
[15:57] <eduardo_> opa
[15:57] <Me3W> thanks
[15:57] <Macer> ah well.. i'm going to keep working on it and see if i can get it running
[15:57] <fx|RabBit> hi all! cann anybody tell me how to add a "search folder" functionality to my right mouse button menu for natuilus?
[15:58] <brobostigon> afternoon
[15:58] <Macer> after setting up md the ubuntu-server install detects the software raid  :) NOW.. lets see if i can just install and boot it
[15:59] <fx|RabBit> can anybody tell me how to add a "search folder" functionality to my right mouse button menu for natuilus, pls?
[16:00] <bengee_> LjL-Temp: thx it worked, do you know how to change the resolution on the login screen?
[16:01] <LjL> bengee_: uhm, i generally do « sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg » and select *only* the resolution i want to use, to solve that problem
[16:01] <Zaxxon> I have an external firewire drive, when I plug it in, sometimes it says "do not have permisson to view this device"  sometimes it doesn't Is there anyway to change this permission?
[16:01] <genii> LjL: There is somewhere gdm specific settings but I don't recall the location
[16:02] <ubuntunut> Hey guys. I was curious as to how ubuntu handles network connections as of Gutsy. the /etc/network/interfaces file seems bare.
[16:02] <Zaxxon> I can't even see the drive on my desktop
[16:02] <ardchoille> Is there a way to put the Applications menu into the desktop context menu?
[16:02] <bengee_> LjL: do you speak german?
[16:02] <TuxOtaku> hey guys....does anyone know of a program I can use to see what programs might be currently using my soundcard?
[16:02] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: You could specify the drive in fstab
[16:02] <LjL> bengee_: no, sorry. there is #ubuntu-de if you want to try it
[16:02] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Or chown/chmod the mount point for the drive.
[16:03] <genii> ubuntunut: When /etc/network/interfaces    is bare, networkmanager  can use the interfaces. Otherwise it thinks they are manually configured
[16:03] <krept> ez
[16:03] <bengee_> LjL:oh thanks for this tipp ;)
[16:03] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut, could you walk me throught that please.. I am really new to Linux
[16:03] <ubuntunut> genii: I see. networkmanager is installed on a cli installation?
[16:03] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: No worries. Where are you mounting the drive?
[16:03] <Zaxxon> I want it mounted to my desktop
[16:04] <genii> ubuntunut: No, not normally. I am speaking of Gnome desktop
[16:04] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Right right. But when you plug it in, where in the filesystem does it appear? Somewhere under /media/ I assume?
[16:04] <Zaxxon> it doesn't
[16:04] <Zaxxon> I can't see anything
[16:04] <Zaxxon> just get a message
[16:04] <ubuntunut> genii: Ah I see. Well I don't use gnome. Was curious how it is handled.
[16:04] <Zaxxon> *messege
[16:05] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Ok. Plug in your firewire drive, navigate to /media/ and tell me if it shows up there
[16:05] <TuxOtaku> so, does anyone know of a way I could check to see what's making use of my soundcard??
[16:05] <genii> ubuntunut: If you want the interfaces to be started in cli then you do need an /etc/network/interfaces   entry for it so that /etc/init.d/networking script has an idea of whats attached and if static/dhcp etc
[16:06] <krept> when installing ubuntu i selected SCSI2 for my install partition, but i don't know how to put the swap on the master hdd, will this affect my boot menu?
[16:06] <ubuntunut> genii: I see. I have wpa_supplicant installed. Would that handle the connections?
[16:07] <genii> ubuntunut: You can use that in combination with ifconfig to bring the interface up, yes.
[16:08] <Zaxxon> Ubuntunut, nope  It doesn't
[16:08] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut, it shows cdrom, cdrom0, and my ipod
[16:08] <dfcarney> TuxOtaku: "lsof | grep snd" may tell you
[16:08] <ubuntunut> genii: Ok. Well just as a heads up, I DO have internet connection, but the interfaces file is blank (asside from the loopback device), and I have wpa_supplicant installed. Was just asking for my own knowlege
[16:08] <Vad1> How can I close a port on my laptop?
[16:09] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Hmm, so it's not automatically mounted for you then
[16:09] <neverblue> morning
[16:09] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut, correct
[16:09] <genii> ubuntunut: You can also pick some brains in #ubuntu-server if you need details :)
[16:09] <erawfish> Vad1: don't let anything listen on it
[16:10] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Alright. Just a quick question: Have you cruised ubuntuforums.org yet? A lot of helpful info is there
[16:10] <Vad1> erawfish: I had nc listening.. how I can I close it now though? It's still open after I closed nc
[16:10] <erawfish> ubuntunut: man interfaces, /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools, same for wpasupplicant package
[16:10] <erawfish> Vad1: netstat -anp |grep <port>
[16:10] <Zaxxon> I have
[16:11] <erawfish> Vad1: if no program listens on that socket it's not open
[16:11] <ubuntunut> genii: Will do
[16:11] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut, yes, I did.. but I couldn't find anything written simple enough for me to apply
[16:11] <Vad1> erawfish: I got a bunch. Pastebin?
[16:11] <erawfish> and if you kill a program, the socket IS closed
[16:11] <ubuntunut> erawfish: I've a weird setup: My uni uses wpa enterprise on their hard line ethernet connections, so we need to use wpa supplicant.
[16:11] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Alright. Let's google, shall we
[16:12] <vallhalla81> is there a program that will run another program if one other program does somthing?
[16:12] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut, okay..  It was used on this computer when I was running OS9 6 years ago.  I don't think I ever remormated it
[16:12] <Vad1> erawfish: Oh got it, killall nc did it
[16:12] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: I understand.
[16:13] <Zaxxon> but OSX crashed, and Ubuntu was the only thing I could get to work.  I have some hardware issue that I still can't figure out.
[16:13] <Zaxxon> Bad RAM I think
[16:13] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: See, in my mind, the firewire would be located somewhere in /dev/. This is where all devices on your computer are listed.
[16:13] <Zaxxon> I'll check /dev
[16:13] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: All we need to do is run a simple 'mount' command to mount that /dev/ file to somewhere like /media/firewire/
[16:14] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Stuff in /dev/ isn't exactly 'human readable' =p
[16:14] <khaotik> anyone know of a program like irfanview i can use to resize and rename jpegs
[16:14] <Zaxxon> hahaha, yeah, I just noticed that
[16:14] <filthpig> what did I have to install to customize which compiz effects I want?
[16:14] <Pici> !ccsm | filthpig
[16:14] <ubotu> filthpig: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[16:15] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut, so how do I find the drive?
[16:15] <genii> !info xnview
[16:15] <ubotu> Package xnview does not exist in gutsy
[16:15] <genii> hmm
[16:15] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Just for yoru own info though, stuff plugged in through usb is usually noted as sd*, like sda, sdb, etc.
[16:15] <filthpig> thanks
[16:15] <vallhalla81> is there a program that will run another program if one other program does somthing? ie skype calls and another program starts a sound recorder
[16:15] <ultraz> hi, i upgraded skype from 1.4 to 2.0 beta to try, but after singing in skype interface is just blank, plane white. So i went back to 1.4, still the same, any idea what can it be?
[16:15] <gsmsk> i'm trying to install the 8800gt drivers from the nvidia site, it installs the driver fine, but when i reboot it goes back to low graphics mode and no 8800 drivers. what am i doing wrong?
[16:15] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut, cool, firewire is different?
[16:15] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: You need to figure out how firewire appears under /dev/ first. After that, then you can mount it, which I'll help you will.
[16:15] <ubuntunut> with*
[16:15] <genii> info gqview
[16:16] <neverblue> gsmsk, why are you installing the drivers from the nvidia site ?
[16:16] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: I"m not sure as I've never used firewire myself. Not even on a windows/mac machine.
[16:16] <genii> bah forgot !
[16:16] <genii> !info gqview
[16:16] <ubotu> gqview (source: gqview): A simple image viewer using GTK+. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 454 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[16:16] <gsmsk> well which should i install?
[16:16] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: PS, someone else having troubles automounting firewire: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire
[16:16] <jamalf> Is there a way to set a current directory on gVim that way I can use relative paths to open files?
[16:16] <ubuntunut> er
[16:16] <ubuntunut> wrong linek.
[16:16] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut, okay, so........I look through that folder?
[16:16] <Me3W> any One got a face Winodws Xp cd ?
[16:16] <khaotik> i have tried gqview but i dont see how i can use the batch conversion and rename function i am looking for
[16:16] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: This : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/36274
[16:16] <Zaxxon> I have another drive that mounts fine btw
[16:16] <jamalf> Please ignore my above question :)
[16:16] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Oh?
[16:16] <Zaxxon> Firewire
[16:16] <Zaxxon> yeah
[16:17] <neverblue> gsmsk, did you enable the restricted drivers in the 'restricted drivers manager' ?
[16:17] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: ok. You're going to want to find out how that drive appears in /dev/
[16:17] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut, when I plug this one in, it says that I don't have permission to view it
[16:17] <bullgard4> [smb.conf] What access rights does give a line "read only = no" below a [share name] line?
[16:17] <gsmsk> neverblue no i didn't
[16:17] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut: any ideas what I'm looking for?
[16:17] <neverblue> gsmsk, that might be the first place to start, also, maybe read this:
[16:18] <neverblue> !nvidia | gsmsk
[16:18] <ubotu> gsmsk: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:18] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: hmm... if I  had to guess it'd be something like 'sda1' or 'sdb1' or something of that nature.
[16:18] <gsmsk> cool, thank you
[16:18] <stroyan> jamalf:   :cd path   works for me
[16:18] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: see anything like that?
[16:18] <Pici> bullgard4: have you read the smb.conf manpage?
[16:19] <zegita> hi. how do you make your webcam work with amsn?
[16:19] <Zaxxon> sdc?
[16:19] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Sounds like a possibility... do you see something like 'sdc1' by any chance?
[16:19] <gsmsk> neverblue when i try to open the restricted drivers manager, only a box pops up saying my hardware doesn't need restricted drivers
[16:19] <bullgard4> Pici: I have not read 5897 lines of dense mathematical text.
[16:19] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut: I have sdc-sdc2
[16:20] <ultraz> my skype whan show contacts when i turn on compiz, it used to work fine, after reinstalling skype it wont work any more, anybody know why?
[16:20] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Alright. Do you happen to have sata drives and/or usb drives currently connected to your computer? If so, do you also have 'sda' or 'sdb' in your dev folder?
[16:20] <johanzon> hmm, is there any nice way to browse Windows networks? I did connect to my other (windows) computer and downloaded from there, it was terrible slow.. is there any other way?
[16:21] <noelferreira> any solution for googleearth with ATI and amd64?
[16:21] <ubuntunut> johanzon: Look into 'smbclient'
[16:21] <Zaxxon> I have my iPod.... should I plug in my other firewire drive and see what it comes up as?
[16:21] <johanzon> okay
[16:21] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Anything like 'sda' or 'sdb' in dev or no
[16:21] <Slart> zegita: I don't think there are any im-clients that support video yet.. but I think there will be, soon
[16:22] <Zaxxon> hda, hdc
[16:22] <ubuntunut> Slart: Skype works just fine
[16:22] <brobostigon> Zaxxon: dmesg will tell you what the device name is,thats if its recognised properly
[16:22] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Usually hda and hdc are ide harddrives
[16:22] <Zaxxon> sdc
[16:22] <juso> http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/141651/attack_against_linux_apache_servers_intensifying.html   New apache exploit, old news? or?
[16:23] <kbs> hello, can anyone please help me with my sound problem?
[16:23] <azexian> can you explain please kbs
[16:23] <Slart> ubuntunut: oh?.. I tried the skype beta and I never quite got it to work..well well.. good news for the skype users
[16:24] <johanzon> So, how do i use smbclient? im kinda new with Linux
[16:24] <filthpig> can it spell trouble if I have both compiz and lookingGlass installed?
[16:24] <Zaxxon> Slart:  good news would be skype for PPC users!  :D
[16:24] <kbs> I got a sony vaio that had working sound on feisty ... the sound went away on gutsy ..and I noticed the mute button when pressed fires a mouse wheel up event
[16:24] <ubuntunut> Slart: Yep. It was really easy. Was able to talk to my friend who usese windows even. :)
[16:24] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: dmesg will show you some helpful output. Try plugging that command into a console
[16:25] <Slart> Zaxxon: hehe.. one can dream.. =)
[16:25] <azexian> johanzon: do you just want to be able to browse shares?
[16:25] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Have a look at this if you don't know what dmesg is or does: http://linuxgazette.net/issue59/nazario.html
[16:26] <johanzon> azexian: i can browse, but im doing it like this, Places>connect to server and then i take windows share and so on, but its terrible slow..
[16:26] <xsfr> ubotu asio
[16:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:26] <xsfr> ubotu boost asio
[16:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boost asio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:26] <xsfr> ubotu boost
[16:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boost - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:26] <azexian> johanzon: so you want to be able to browse, not have to add, is that right?
[16:26] <Zaxxon> if I type in "dmseg" I get command not found
[16:26] <xsfr> ubotu libboost-dev
[16:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libboost-dev - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:26] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: dmesg
[16:26] <filthpig> !lookingglass
[16:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lookingglass - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:26] <neverblue> kbs, so the hardware is all working ?
[16:27] <johanzon> azexian, if theres some faster way
[16:27] <azexian> places --> network
[16:27] <MirJA> kbs, alsamixer
[16:27] <johanzon> i cant browse mshome
[16:27] <azexian> johanzon:what happens when you try?
[16:28] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut: okay got a bunch of info.. what should I look for?
[16:28] <noelferreira> any solution for googleearth with ATI and amd64?
[16:28] <johanzon> "Windows Network: mshome" couldn't be found. Perhaps it has recently been deleted.
[16:28] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Did you go here: http://linuxgazette.net/issue59/nazario.html ?
[16:28] <Sandy> [help required]: i right-clicked on an .iso file and selected extract here. a bug reporting tool appeared and asked me to report it. i have reported it but the bug reporting tool is appearing again and again. what can i do now to get rid of this?
[16:28] <johanzon> but, it isnt deleted, afaik
[16:28] <Zaxxon> I did
[16:29] <azexian> johanzon: try typing it in in smb://# where hash is the ip, or doing smb://mshome/ the ip should work
[16:29] <kbs> neverblue: what do u mean by hardware working? I got a VGNT350 vaio laptop with a mute button on the front ..if I press it .. its like moving mouse wheel up ...everything is working perfectly ..except for sound ..I hear nothing
[16:29] <johanzon> ok, thx!
[16:29] <azexian> johanzon: np :)
[16:29] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: You'd looking for anything that looks like it describes your firewire drives. A model name, number, anything like that
[16:29] <MirJA> kbs, shoot up a terminal and type alsamixer
[16:29] <neverblue> kbs, did you possibly have an OS on it previously, or was your sound working before, so you KNOW the hardware, speakers, sound card, headphones, etc are all working ?
[16:30] <kbs> mirja: doing it as we speak
[16:30] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut: okay, I'm reading that webpage a bit more.. uno momento
[16:30] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: hehe, good good
[16:30] <Sandy> [help required]: i right-clicked on an .iso file and selected extract here. a bug reporting tool appeared and asked me to report it. i have reported it but the bug reporting tool is appearing again and again. what can i do now to get rid of this?
[16:30] <fx|RabBit> how can i add a search folder to my nautilus context menu?
[16:30] <kbs> neverblue: only thing on the laptop before Gutsy ...was feisty ...and it worked perfectly ...its after a fresh Gutsy install that I lost everything
[16:30] <azexian> sandy there are other ways to burn, but have you tried other iso's?
[16:30] <kbs> by everything .. i mean sound
[16:31] <neverblue> kbs, ok, take the previous suggestion and try 'alsamixer'
[16:31] <sknh> jamalf, u still there?
[16:31] <mzracer360> I am having trouble installing Ubuntu Server onto a Mirra backup device.  I get to Loading /install/... ... Ready. but then it just sits there with a blinking _ character
[16:31] <jamalf> sknh, yeah
[16:31] <neverblue> kbs, also, with your button press causing a 'mouse scroll', it would appear that the layout for your keys has been setup incorrectly
[16:32] <Sandy> azexian: i'm unable to try anything. that bug reporting tool is popping up again
[16:32] <MirJA> kbs, or if its a fresh install you may want to add yourself to the audio group (only if CURRENTLY your sound works as a SUPERUSER, means root)
[16:32] <kbs> neverblue,mirja: alsamizer running ... volume on master is maxed
[16:32] <MirJA> kbs, PCM
[16:32] <sknh> jamalf: where do we set this xdebug configuration settings?
[16:32] <fx|RabBit> Sandy: ps aux | grep application name shows you a process ID kill -9 processID kills it
[16:32] <azexian> sandy so it comes up when you do other things as well? it might just be a corrupt file, have you tried others?
[16:32] <jamalf> sknh, what configuration settings are you talking about?
[16:32] <johanzon> azexian: Where should i write 'smb://mshome/ the ip'? in a terminal?... it cant be found there
[16:32] <sknh> jamalf: xdebug.auto_trace
[16:32] <chazco> Anyone able to help with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4184280 ?
[16:33] <sknh> jamalf: I want to trace function calls
[16:33] <jamalf> sknh, Oh those go in your php.ini
[16:33] <Seith> can someone help me im new to ubuntu i cant get sound out of my audio jack i have a AC 97
[16:33] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut:I got this message A LOT [ 2589.428264] scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
[16:33] <Zaxxon> [ 2589.428324] FAT: Directory bread(block 119240) failed
[16:33] <azexian> johanzon type it on a folder, press ctrl + l to get to the address bar
[16:33] <sknh> jamalf: okay
[16:33] <ubuntunut> johanzon: in a browser of some kind. Nautilus is probably what you want
[16:33] <Zaxxon> and I couldn't get much more info
[16:33] <vallhalla81> is there a program that will run another program if one other program does somthing? ie skype calls and another program starts a sound recorder
[16:33] <Sandy> azexian: i have done it before but this time a bug has appeared. how can i get rid of it?
[16:33] <johanzon> okay, i'll try! :D
[16:33] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Ouch.... Is your drive dead then?
[16:33] <sknh> jamalf: nothing was mentioned as to where those settings have to be set... I was wondering if they go into the ini file or the php code itself
[16:33] <azexian> sandy so other files work? if so you might have a corrupt archive :s
[16:33] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Have you used it recently anywhere else?
[16:34] <Macer> ok
[16:34] <Macer> ubuntu-server sucks for software raid :)
[16:34] <fx|RabBit> how can i add a "search folder" functionality to my nautilus context menu?
[16:34] <juso> hows port sentry/trip wire/etc nowadays, looking to beef up security, anyone suggest a tool?
[16:34] <jamalf> sknh, ahh yeah i understand =)
[16:34] <Macer> !macer fakeraid
[16:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macer fakeraid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:34] <Zaxxon> Yeah, it worked up untill I tried to reinstall OSX and had a fatal error on my computer doing so.. the firewire was dissconnected
[16:34] <fx|RabBit> !fakeraid macer
[16:34] <Seith> can someone help me im new to ubuntu i cant get sound out of my audio jack i have a AC 97
[16:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fakeraid macer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:34] <fx|RabBit> hehehe
[16:34] <Sandy> azexian actually it's a cross-compiling tool and it is tested. now what?
[16:35] <kbs> mirja: PCM?
[16:35] <nerve> anyone know how to figure out if USB_SUSPEND option is enabled?
[16:35] <Slart> nerve: it is by default
[16:35] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Do you have any other mac machines in the house to test the drive with? to see if it's still working and all that jazz? If not then we'll just try mounting willy-nilly
[16:35] <Slart> nerve: powertop is wrong =)
[16:35] <azexian> sandy that is odd, you could use the command line to extract, it's iso right?
[16:35] <fx|RabBit> how can i add a "search folder" functionality to my nautilus context menu?
[16:35] <Zaxxon> I don't sorry
[16:35] <MirJA> kbs, when you open up alsamixer, there is PCM volume as well, unmute it and gear up the volume
[16:36] <Sandy> azexian u are right, but i have right-clicked on it. it's been done. now tell me what to do?
[16:36] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Alright then. Try this: plug in the firewire, look at /dev/ (mostly at the sd* stuffs), then unplug the firewire and see if anything disappeared
[16:36] <Zaxxon> okay
[16:36] <Macer> i think i went about it the wrong way
[16:37] <Sandra24> Probably this is stupidly simple, but how can I uninstall apache2 ?
[16:37] <fx|RabBit> gawdammit 1250 ppl in a channel and noone knows how to a a freakin search menu  to nautilus???
[16:37] <Macer> the damn installer just doesn't seem to want to allow me to make more than one partition on the software raid :)
[16:37] <possum_> Hello =) , I have some questions regarding my desktop. I have searched google but i am quite new to linux so if someone could please PM me for a chat woudl be much appreciated as i have trouble concentrating in a room lol
[16:37] <Sandy> [help required]: i right-clicked on an .iso file and selected extract here. a bug reporting tool appeared and asked me to report it. i have reported it but the bug reporting tool is appearing again and again. what can i do now to get rid of this?
[16:37] <genii> Sandra24: sudo apt-get remove apache2
[16:37] <fx|RabBit> has never ever anybody searched anything in ubuntu???
[16:37] <rsk> fx|RabBit: everybody is here and everybody is awake and looking at your question. comeon get real.
[16:37] <th0r> Zaxxon unplug the firewire, then in a terminal type 'tail -f /var/log/messages', then plug in the firewire and watch the terminal...you should be able to determine what the firewire is being identified as
[16:37] <xsfr> Is there a BOOST asio library for ubuntu?
[16:38] <ubuntunut> fx|RabBit: I haven't. I don't use nautilus. That sounds like something you could easily find out by lookin gat the nautilus docs.
[16:38] <Seith> can someone help me im new to ubuntu i cant get sound out of my audio jack i have a x205-s9349
[16:38] <StrangeCharm> fujitsu lifebook
[16:38] <StrangeCharm> laptop on the hcl
[16:38] <StrangeCharm> hibernation fails
[16:38] <Sandra24> genii: Package apache2 is not installed, so not removed. Maybe I installed it from source, not using apt-get?
[16:38] <xsfr> Is there a BOOST asio package for ubuntu?
[16:38] <genii> Sandra24: This is possible. Or you may have installed apache1 mistakenly
[16:39] <chazco> Anyone know how to use tasksel in a script (it crashes at 100%)?
[16:39] <Biohazard> xsfr: I don't think so.
[16:39] <fx|RabBit> ubuntunut: well that is waht i thought too, but it dont seem so, does it?
[16:39] <xsfr> i think hardy has a boost asio package, anyway to get it too work on gutsy?
[16:39] <genii> Sandra24: sudo apt-get remove apache
[16:39] <Sandra24> genii: according to top, I'm running apache2 (6 processes at 111m a shot) I don't remember how I installed it now though
[16:39] <Biohazard> hardy has one? great!
[16:40] <th0r> fx|RabBit maybe we are just averse to answering someone with a bad attitude
[16:40] <ubuntunut> fx|RabBit: Once again, I wouldn't know. You're the one with nautilus on your system.  Look in /usr/doc/ for anythign related to nautilus
[16:40] <kbs> mirja,azexian,neverblue: Alsamixer fixed it .. I unmuted everything in playback ...thanks alot :)
[16:40] <xsfr> Biohazard, what do you mean "great!"?
[16:40] <fx|RabBit> ubuntunut: i found nautilus-search-tool in google but that one requires libnautilus-extension instead of libnautilus-extension1...
[16:40] <neverblue> kbs, np
[16:40] <genii> Sandra24: Hmm. Did you have to do something like download, then ./configure then make or make install?
[16:41] <fx|RabBit> th0r: gawd yeah flame on...
[16:41] <richee> how do I tar.gz specific folder using the tar command ?
[16:41] <Biohazard> xsfr: because gutsy has not.
[16:41] <ubuntunut> fx|RabBit: You could try to install it anyhow. 'sudo aptitude install nautilus-search-tool'
[16:41] <Sandra24> genii: If I downloaded it, I probably have it saved on here still, let me look
[16:41] <genii> Sandra24: If so, need to find the directory you did that in and do:  make uninstall           or: make clean
[16:41] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: Could you tone down your attitude a bit... There are lots of people giving and getting help.  Just because you make 4 posts in 4 minutes and dont get an immediate response does not mean we are not reading what you write.
[16:41] <fx|RabBit> ubuntunut: it doesnt "know" it
[16:41] <StrangeCharm> if i'm having trouble hibernating, what's a good bet for the thing that's broken
[16:41] <Sandra24> genii: I wouldn't have guessed that, thanks, I'm grateful for the help
[16:42] <genii> Sandra24: np.. it is not an obvious thing
[16:42] <ubuntunut> fx|RabBit: Try a 'sudo aptitude search nautilus search'
[16:42] <xsfr> Biohazard, is there a way to get the hardy package to work on gutsy?
[16:42] <ubuntunut> fx|RabBit: This will search the repos to see if the package is in there. If it isn't you'll have to install it on your own.
[16:42] <Biohazard> xsfr: I don't know.
[16:42] <genii> Sandra24: It is best when possible to install a package instead of from source
[16:43] <Jack_Sparrow> genii: yes
[16:43] <Sandra24> genii: strange, I don't have it in my user directory, it must have been installed another way, I wouldn't have deleted that
[16:43] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut:  okay I think I should restart.  My firewire hard drive that was working fine isn't showing up now when I plug it in.  :(
[16:43] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Hold up
[16:44] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut: okay
[16:44] <Sandra24> I tried sudo aptitude remove apache2 as well, no luck
[16:44] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Do what someone else suggested: In a command line, type 'tail -f /var/log/messages'. Then try plugging in your firewire and see if anything comes up in the terminal.
[16:44] <nerve> anyone know how i can turn off usb_suspend?
[16:44] <Sandra24> does it come standard with ubuntu gutsy?
[16:44] <fx|RabBit> ubuntunut: thx for the hint, but as i said it is not in there and i cant install it as i dont have the required libs and those seem to conflict with installed ones...
[16:44] <Sandra24> (server version)
[16:44] <Zaxxon> okay
[16:44] <genii> Sandra24: Well, a down-and-dirty way is to:    sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache2; sudo apt-get remove apache2      (with --purge optionally)
[16:45] <fx|RabBit> waht i have problems in understanding with is, that this is such a simle  functionality, i mean even windows can do that per default..
[16:45] <genii> Sandra24: It will force an install from package over the compiled version, then remove it
[16:45] <Sandra24> genii: I'm willing to try that at this point
[16:45] <edward> привет
[16:45] <possum_> I want to use kde, but i only have ubuntu 7.10 with gnome. If i use synaptic to dl and install kde will it cause me any trouble? I dont like gnome but i cant download kubuntu cd on my internet connection.
[16:46] <ubuntunut> fx|RabBit: A few things before you get totally angry: There are many different gui file system tools. nautilus is only one.
[16:46] <edward> ошибка такая!!! Не могу смонтировать том
[16:46] <Seith> can someone help me please i cant get sound of my headphone jack
[16:46] <qbert> how do I set application shortcuts, so that Super-F opens firefox etc ?
[16:46] <edward> что делать????
[16:46] <genii> Work needs me, expect lag for next bit
[16:46] <StrangeCharm> let's say - for the sake of argument - that my laptop is listed in the laptop test guides as beings able to hibernate. if we were further to assume that it hibernates fine under debian 40r2, why would it not be hibernating under feisty?
[16:46] <Slart> !ru | edward
[16:46] <ubotu> edward: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[16:46] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut: nothings happening.. and that's with the drive that was working
[16:46] <ubuntunut> fx|RabBit: In unix, people tend to stick to using the command line. try getting used to using 'locate'
[16:47] <jfjffjfkj> donde estoy?
[16:47] <sknh> jamalf: do I have to restart apache everytime php.ini file is changed?
[16:47] <fx|RabBit> ubuntunut: hehehe i am not getting completely angry i am just shaking my head about missing simplest things in "standard" ubuntu default installations
[16:47] <jamalf> sknh, Yes, you can pass "reload" instead of "restart" to apache, its faster
[16:47] <fx|RabBit> ubuntunut: and maybe amusing about 5 times irc police triggering gg
[16:47] <ubuntunut> fx|RabBit: Well blame nautilus, not ubuntu is all I'm saying :P
[16:48] <sknh> jamalf: ok
[16:48] <fx|RabBit> ubuntunut: well ubuntu comes with nautilus, dont it?:P
[16:48] <fx|RabBit> ubuntunut: r u on kde or what?
[16:48] <ubuntunut> fx|RabBit: If you install from the live cd, yes :). You could also instal kubuntu, fluxbox
[16:48] <ubuntunut> fx|RabBit: I installed fluxbox over a cli install.
[16:49] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Nothing at all happens? not even in dev?
[16:49] <fx|RabBit> ubuntunut: uhuh thx for the hint i actually havent even heard of that gg
[16:49] <Tomcat_> fx|RabBit: Why can't you find the search menus? :o
[16:49] <fx|RabBit> Tomcat_: where are they??
[16:49] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut:  yeah, something is up.  like I said, the drive that was working isn't now.  I think I need to restart, or refresh.. maybe logging off would work.. I don't know
[16:50] <Tomcat_> fx|RabBit: Places menu in top panel (for files in general)
[16:50] <beyu-> anyone knows when the ubuntu beryl would release?
[16:50] <waiting4androi1> there is no such thing as beryl
[16:50] <waiting4androi1> now
[16:50] <Tomcat_> fx|RabBit: And deskbar/tracker search tool for home searches
[16:50] <beyu-> ahh.. y?
[16:50] <waiting4androi1> its all compiz gusion
[16:50] <waiting4androi1> fusion
[16:50] <beyu-> i saw in youtube and its cool..
[16:50] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: You could try a reboot if you'd like. I'm kinda useless as I have no idea about firewire (don't use it).
[16:50] <Tomcat_> beyu-: beryl merged with compiz.
[16:51] <beyu-> whats with the compiz?
[16:51] <khamael> beyu-: go to #compiz-fusion for support
[16:51] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: I'd stick around in this room until you run into someone who has experience with running a firewire drive on ubuntu.
[16:51] <beyu-> im newbie..
[16:51] <Tomcat_> beyu-: It's similar technology, but different projects, and they merged.
[16:51] <fx|RabBit> Tomcat_: hehehe yeah i heard of that one XD no seriously buddy what i want to do is click my rolling stone magazine best ever 500 rock songs directory and choose find  to locate beachboys' stayin' alive
[16:51] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut:  I was figuring that if I plugged in the device that works, I could check the properties and see how it mounts?
[16:51] <beyu-> ahh.. okay..
[16:51] <waiting4androi1> hey I have this huge mp3 collection and I wanted a software that would automatically repair its id3 tags by getting info from the net
[16:51] <waiting4androi1> do you know
[16:51] <waiting4androi1> of such softwar
[16:51] <waiting4androi1> ?
[16:51] <Skrot> Hi. The encrypted LVM option that ubuntu alternative(?) supports, can it be extended with new discs also encrypted later/after installation?
[16:51] <Zaxxon> and see if it's a sda, or sdc or whatever
[16:52] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: That'd be one way to do it.
[16:52] <Tomcat_> fx|RabBit: Well, you can use one of the mentioned tools, and they should give you an answer in seconds... it's not in nautilus though, you're right about that.
[16:52] <beyu-> thnx Tomcat_
[16:52] <Tomcat_> beyu-: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl_%28window_manager%29#Beryl-Compiz_Merge <--- Read this
[16:52] <ubuntunut> fx|RabBit: Just out of curiosity: Have you tried to install that nautilus search tool you found?
[16:53] <beyu-> yey... thnx agin.
[16:53] <fx|RabBit> Tomcat_: and that is what i wanna accomplish;), besides that how do i actualize that database for the deskbar search?
[16:53] <ubuntunut> fx|RabBit: If it's a .deb package you may have success
[16:53] <ubuntuisloved> !mount
[16:53] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[16:53] <genii> Sandra24: Did that last try take?
[16:53] <Ein_> hi
[16:53] <Tomcat_> fx|RabBit: If you never changed your startup programs, it will be done automatically.
[16:53] <possum_> Hello =)
[16:53] <waiting4androi1> so can anyone help me with a software for mp3 auto tagging ?
[16:54] <Tomcat_> fx|RabBit: About a search menu not being available... well, you need to change some behaviors when switching to Linux, unfortunately. :)
[16:54] <fx|RabBit> ubuntunut: of course i have, i have even tried to replace the libnautilus-extension etries in the configure script through libnaulilus-extension1 just for a try but that dont work either..
[16:54] <ubuntunut> waiting4androi1: check out 'easy tag'
[16:54] <possum_> Hello =)
[16:54] <Ein_> I got a problem... my OS is always log off
[16:54] <nixnoob> anyone know how to fix the fn+f2 key on asus c90s?
[16:54] <secureboot> anyone know a utility to covert from ogg to mpeg in the repos, or ogg to wmv?
[16:55] <fx|RabBit> ubuntunut: nope its a tar.gz notz a deb
[16:55] <ubuntuisloved> should ubuntu live cdrom see linux partitions? im performing a backup test and want to restore by tape drive but my linux partitions dont seem to be mounted?
[16:55] <StrangeCharm> is there any chance that my intel graphics driver is interfering with hibernate?
[16:55] <noodlesgc> scureboot: ffmpeg, mencoder
[16:55] <Seith> can some one help me please im a noob to ubuntu i found a realtek audio linux driver and download it i just dont know how to install it can some please help me
[16:55] <genii> secureboot: man ffmpeg
[16:55] <waiting4androi1> thanks ubuntunut will it work if those mp3s are ona removable drive
[16:55] <fx|RabBit> Tomcat_: yeah i know that and i am not using linux since yesterday
[16:55] <genii> noodlesgc: Darn, beat me to it
[16:55] <fx|RabBit> ;)
[16:55] <ubuntunut> waiting4androi1: If you have it mounted, it should.
[16:55] <noodlesgc> Seith, what type of file is it
[16:55] <waiting4androi1> ok thanks a lot ubuntunut
[16:55] <Pirloomi> i tried download codecs, etc programs that are supposed to work according to different ubuntu sites online.. but i just cant make it play a normal dvd disc
[16:55] <ubuntunut> waiting4androi1: Make sure you have proper permissions
[16:55] <Pirloomi> is there an easy solution?
[16:56] <waiting4androi1> ok
[16:56] <kale> when my system mount a usb stick, it gives it the wrong permissions, what do i do?
[16:56] <fx|RabBit> ubuntunut:
[16:56] <fx|RabBit> http://dailypackage.fedorabook.com/index.php?/archives/56-GUI-Thursday-nautilus-search-tool-File-search.html and
[16:56] <fx|RabBit> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=149158
[16:56] <bazhang> Pirloomi: from where? automatix?
[16:56] <Sandra24> Well I tried the reinstall/remove thing, the install/uninstall worked, but afterwards, apache2 is still there, healthy as ever
[16:56] <Pirloomi> gxine
[16:56] <Sandra24> where might it be installed to? Maybe I can just remove the files
[16:57] <fx|RabBit> ubuntunut:  so what filebrowser does fluxbox bring along?
[16:57] <Seith> realtek-linux-audiopack-4.07b.tar.bz2   this is what it saids
[16:57] <bazhang> Pirloomi: downloaded from a website or from the repos?
[16:57] <technoburn> I think Thunar comes with flux?
[16:57] <ubuntunut> fx|RabBit: It doesn't. I usually just use the cli. If i'm feeling lazy I just use 'xfe'
[16:57] <StrangeCharm> does ubuntu use splashy for the startup splashscreen?
[16:57] <technoburn> cli ftw
[16:57] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut: okay other drive is showing up on desktop now.
[16:57] <Pirloomi> from synaptic pack ...
[16:57] <noodlesgc> StrangeCharm: yes
[16:57] <StrangeCharm> how can i change the colour that the screen goes inbetween the logon screen and the normal interface loading?
[16:58] <fx|RabBit> Tomcat_: i have not modified my startup apps but i have just changed the search paths so it includes my raid disk too wich isnt linked to the home dir...
[16:58] <kale> can you guys help me get my usb stick working?
[16:58] <Seith> when i had windows i use the same but for windows
[16:58] <StrangeCharm> noodlesgc - thanks
[16:58] <bazhang> !usplash
[16:58] <technoburn> kale: what version ubuntu you running?
[16:58] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[16:58] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Give that baby a properties lookdown
[16:58] <fx|RabBit> Tomcat_: and i dont know how long it will take to include that as at the moment it doesnt yet thats whxy i asked how to index manually..
[16:58] <noodlesgc> StrangeCharm: gksu gdmsetup
[16:59] <Zaxxon> lol.. all it says is media/Jerphy  *its name
[16:59] <StrangeCharm> noodlesgc: thanks again
[16:59] <Zaxxon> I don't see whatelse I'd look for..
[16:59] <Sandra24> actually, for now it's enough just to stop apache2 from starting up with the machine, how do you do that? something about /etc/init.d I thought
[16:59] <Tomcat_> fx|RabBit: You can run "trackerd -R" to completely reindex. Had to do that once as wel.
[16:59] <StrangeCharm> noodlesgc: - it doesn't seem to be following that dialogue's assertion
[17:00] <pike_> Sandra24: sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove   then just sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 defaults   <-- i believe
[17:00] <fx|RabBit> Tomcat_: thx m8
[17:00] <pike_> Sandra24: or just chmod -x /etc/init.d/apache2
[17:00] <StrangeCharm> wait, is splashy the one for before the login screen or after the login screen?
[17:00] <noelferreira> any solution for googleearth with ATI and amd64?
[17:00] <Sandra24> pike: thanks!
[17:01] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: one sec.
[17:01] <qbert> HI, how do I setup application shortcut keys ( Ctrl+Alt+F ) to launch applications ???
[17:01] <Pirloomi> should i use automatix instead of gxine?
[17:01] <noodlesgc> StrangeCharm: before
[17:01] <Pirloomi> or am i lacking codecs ?
[17:01] <krept> i need some assistance installing ubuntu :(
[17:01] <StrangeCharm> noodlesgc: and i invoke it to change the splash-screen how?
[17:01] <Zloog> Hi, If I want to echo a programs output to a file AND have it moved to a txt file. How can I do that?
[17:01] <noodlesgc> StrangeCharm: you need startup-manager
[17:02] <khamael> krept: what help do you need?
[17:02] <bazhang> Pirloomi: for dvd's go to www.medibuntu.org and install libdvdcss2--the instructions are on the site
[17:02] <ubuntuisloved> how can i get the linux filesystem if Gparted doesnt know it says Unknown?
[17:02] <StrangeCharm> noodlesgc: a-ha! i think i have that
[17:02] <krept> khamael i tried setting up with the live cd
[17:02] <Pirloomi> already installed it
[17:02] <krept> but it didn't create a boot menu
[17:02] <krept> so it just goes and boots into windows like  normal
[17:02] <|Quest|> does every distro has a package manager and repositories?
[17:02] <Pirloomi> i can partly open the dvd, but all it shows is a purple screen
[17:02] <bazhang> Pirloomi: best to stay away from automatix--it will break your system
[17:02] <mhrnjad_> ubuntuisloved: what do you mean?
[17:02] <heatmzzr> how do i fix grub so i can dual boot ubuntu and windows, have both installed now but had the hardest time trying to boot into linux?? how do i fix it now that i have both installed
[17:02] <khamael> krept: that i strange
[17:02] <krept> i need to put the boot menu on my master hdd but install ubuntu on /dev/scd1
[17:02] <bazhang> |Quest|: the majority do yes
[17:02] <Seith> can someone help me please i have download the driver so my sound can some help me i have the driver just dont know how to install it
[17:03] <krept> if i choose a slave hdd as install root, will it automatically create a boot menu for me?
[17:03] <fx|RabBit> gosh...
[17:03] <ubuntuisloved> mhrnjad_: well im mounting a external drive with data and i tried to mount it as ext3 but fails unknown FS mount type and i looked in gparted says unknown type
[17:03] <noodlesgc> Seith: what type of file did you donwload?
[17:03] <Seith> and for ubuntu to read it so i can get sound out of my output audio jack
[17:03] <bazhang> heatmzzr: which installed first?
[17:03] <Seith> realtek-linux-audiopack-4.07b.tar.bz2
[17:04] <noodlesgc> Seith: ok unzip it
[17:04] <Seith> thats what it saids
[17:04] <mhrnjad_> ubuntuisloved: did you setup the partitions on the external drive? do you know what type they are?
[17:04] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Alright. Under /media/, where is your firewire mounted?
[17:04] <ubuntuisloved> mhrnjad_: its redhat partition
[17:04] <Seith> ok
[17:04] <ubuntuisloved> mhrnjad_: the swap is ext3
[17:04] <Seith> i see a bunh of files
[17:04] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut:  /media/Jerphy
[17:05] <mhrnjad_> ubuntuisloved: the swap is normally not marked as 'ext3' but as 'swap'
[17:05] <heatmzzr> bazhang, ubuntu
[17:05] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Open up a terminal, type 'cat /etc/fstab', paste the output at "www.pastebin.org", and then give me the link
[17:05] <noodlesgc> Seith: open a terminal and type cd <path to folder>
[17:05] <mhrnjad_> ubuntuisloved: I mean did you set up the external drive? how do you know it contains linux partitions?
[17:05] <ubuntuisloved> mhrnjad_: yea ohh i was lookng at sda1 boot
[17:05] <narayan> hi
[17:05] <bazhang> !grub | heatmzzr
[17:05] <ubotu> heatmzzr: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:06] <beyu-> is ubuntun stand alone guyz?
[17:06] <heatmzzr> bazhang, after that i resized drive and installed winxp, the couldnt get back into linux
[17:06] <Seith> ok
[17:06] <narayan> i would like to know whether a gutsy commerical repository is available
[17:06] <ubuntuisloved> mhrnjad_: i was trying to mount the wrong partition let me try again
[17:06] <beyu-> i mean a single OL for a pc..
[17:06] <narayan> like that in fiesty
[17:06] <noodlesgc> Seith: now type make
[17:06] <Zaxxon> do you want both drives plugged in when I do that?
[17:06] <bazhang> narayan: what packages are you looking for?
[17:06] <ubuntuisloved> mhrnjad_: thats better
[17:06] <beyu-> OS i mean..
[17:06] <narayan> realplayer
[17:06] <ubuntuisloved> mhrnjad_: thanks
[17:06] <narayan> i am working on a documentation bug bazhang
[17:06] <mhrnjad_> ubuntuisloved: you are welcome :-)
[17:06] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Just as it is now.
[17:07] <ubuntuisloved> mhrnjad_: ahh maybe not
[17:07] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: And try to put my name before the message so I can find you in the flood of text
[17:07] <bazhang> narayan: what package do you want?
[17:07] <ubuntuisloved> mhrnjad_: i can mount the /boot as ext3 but not the volume manager
[17:07] <MrPink_> lo
[17:07] <Seith> like this cd/./realtek-linux-audiopack-4.07b/
[17:08] <narayan> bazhang: i am working on this documentation bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/110615
[17:08] <MrPink_> I am looking for a flv to mpg or avi converter for linux... so flash video to a more "common" video type (preferably one I can integrate into a open office presentation) any ideas?
[17:08] <qbert> fsking ridicoulous, gnome sucks
[17:08] <heatmzzr> bazhang, i am back into linux and now it only boots linux, what do i change without going back into winxp (no drivers, no internet etc..) can i change grub now that i am in linux?
[17:08] <noodlesgc> Seith just copy the directory from the title bar in your filemanager
[17:08] <Seith> i have it on my desktop
[17:08] <kale> what is the name of the application, that is on the panel and reports updates?
[17:08] <beyu-> anybody kan answer me?
[17:08] <qbert> beyu-: there dont seem to be any answers here
[17:08] <kale> i seem to have misplaced it
[17:08] <_slacker_> hiii all, i'm having problems with ubuntu 7.04 and vim-full :s
[17:09] <beyu-> ah okay..
[17:09] <mhrnjad_> ubuntuisloved: sorry, don't know a thing about volume managers..
[17:09] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut:  http://www.pastebin.org/16668
[17:09] <brobostigon> !grub | heatmzzr
[17:09] <ubotu> heatmzzr: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:09] <ubuntunut> kale: update-manager
[17:09] <noodlesgc> Seith ok open a new terminal and type cd Desktop
[17:09] <kale> ubuntunut: thanks
[17:09] <narayan> bazhang, in this bug there is a reference to installation of realplayer and in fiesty we could do it by adding the commercial repository
[17:09] <Seith> this is what i copy /./realtek-linux-audiopack-4.07b/
[17:09] <Seith> ok
[17:10] <MrPink_> I am looking for a flv to mpg or avi converter for linux... so flash video to a more "common" video type (preferably one I can integrate into a open office presentation) any ideas?
[17:10] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: do me a favor and type 'mount -l' in the terminal window
[17:10] <bazhang> narayan: are you referring to non-canonical repos?
[17:10] <narayan> yes
[17:10] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut : okay
[17:10] <Bluefire> et
[17:10] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Look for the entry that contains your firewire drive (located at /media/J(name))
[17:10] <Zaxxon> dev/sda1 on /media/Jerphy
[17:11] <|REM|> Can anyone suggest an Ubuntu book that is on the intermediate level?  I read the Official Ubuntu Book online and kinda already knew all that info...
[17:11] <napsterx> hey i was wondring if anyone could help me out i have a presario C700 which i just put ubuntu on and i did the fix to get the wireless working but i am getting poor connections is there any type of fix for this ?
[17:11] <noodlesgc> Seith now type cd real then hit tab
[17:11] <_slacker_> i'm trying to install vim-full which depends on vim 7.0-164+1ubuntu7 but i have 7.0-164+1ubuntu7.2 installed
[17:11] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Alright. So firewire drives appear under /dev/ as sd*s
[17:11] <Seith> ok
[17:11] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut: okay
[17:11] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Now, as default, ubuntu automounts devices when they're plugged in, thanks to "HAL".
[17:11] <Seith> i got to desktop
[17:11] <bazhang> MrPink_: ffmpeg mencoder are two options that have been mentioned here before
[17:12] <_mug> hi
[17:12] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Try plugging in your other firewire. If it doesn't automount for you, you may be in trouble (as in your harddrive may be malfunctioning)
[17:12] <noodlesgc> Seith type cd real and before you hit enter hit tab then enter
[17:12] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: You could look in /dev/ to see if anything appears under sda#, but if it doesn't, you're kinda SOL for now.
[17:12] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Until you can test the firewire drive on another machine.
[17:13] <MrPink_> bazhang: ffmpeg and mencoder, so two seperate apps ?
[17:13] <nikolam> HI does anyone use CDRW or DVDRW disks , formatted with UDF file system in read-write mode?
[17:13] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: To make the drive accessable to other users other than root, you'll need to change permissions with 'chmod' and/or 'chown'. Look those two commands up.
[17:13] <MirJA> MrPink_, yes
[17:13] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Like I said, that's kinda all the hints I can give you for now. I need to head out.
[17:13] <bazhang> MrPink_: they are cli though
[17:14] <MrPink_> bazhang: cli ?
[17:14] <Seith> it said
[17:14] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: I apologize that I couldn't help you out 100%. If your drive isn't dead, it IS possible to mount it, and you WILL find an answer eventually.
[17:14] <MirJA> MrPink_, command line interface
[17:14] <Seith> ash: cd/real: No such file or directory
[17:14] <Seith> \
[17:14] <bazhang> !cli
[17:14] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[17:14] <MrPink_> MirJA: aha
[17:14] <brobostigon> cli = command line interface
[17:14] <Seith> it said ash: cd/real: No such file or directory
[17:14] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: good luck, and sorry once again
[17:14] <MrPink_> ok that shouldn't be a prob I think
[17:14] <noodlesgc> Seith ok just type cd then drag and drop the unzipped folder onto the terminal
[17:15] <MirJA> MrPink_, its not if you are a good reader with alot of patience
[17:15] <MirJA> :)
[17:15] <Seith> im on Desktop$
[17:15] <Seith> ok
[17:15] <MrPink_> MirJA: Good reader: yes   a lot of patience: Not at the moment ;)
[17:15] <Zaxxon> weird
[17:16] <noodlesgc> Seith are you in the unzipped folder?
[17:16] <MrPink_> or does anyone know of a program to cut flv video...?
[17:16] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut: when I plugged it in, my mouse froze and nothing would work., but I got an Unsafe device remomal when I turned it off
[17:16] <Seith> no
[17:17] <MichaelSammels> Will uninstalling the ubuntu-desktop metapackage remove Gnome and Xserver?
[17:17] <MirJA> MrPink_, cut flv or change it to another format ?
[17:17] <noodlesgc> Seith type cd into the terminal and dont press enter
[17:17] <ULTRADJ83> hi guys!  do you know if linux is able to read and write some directories compressed with windows' standard compression in ntfs partitions?
[17:17] <Macer> has anybody had a problem with the amd64 version with an ati resetting during install?
[17:17] <Seith> it wont let me click on the file now
[17:17] <falconer> ULTRADJ83, I do not. Have you tried?
[17:17] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: Sounds like something is screwy with the drive.
[17:17] <secureboot> genii: thanks - ffmpeg and mencoder both worked well, though the man pages are terrifyingly sparse on what real world options are useful
[17:17] <noodlesgc> Seith what file?
[17:17] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: But I need to head out. food and classes.
[17:17] <Macer> how strange
[17:17] <Zaxxon> Ubuntunut:  thanks for your help
[17:18] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: good luck. You will find the answer eventually :). Sorry I couldn't help more
[17:18] <alcor> help me how to make deb file?
[17:18] <Seith> ok i type cd no enter
[17:18] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut:  no, at least I'm on the right track
[17:18] <Zaxxon> ubuntunut: have a good day!
[17:18] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: True enough.
[17:18] <ubuntunut> Zaxxon: you too
[17:18] <noodlesgc> Seith now drag and drop the folder you unzipped onto the terminal
[17:19] <genii> secureboot: Yes, googling for examples of syntax is usually more enlightening :)
[17:19] <falconer> alcor, why do you want to make a deb file?
[17:19] <MichaelSammels> Will uninstalling the kubuntu-desktop metapackage remove Gnome and Xserver?
[17:19] <Macer> what the hell
[17:19] <Seith> real-linux-audiopacl-4.07b.tar.bz2 thats the file
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[17:19] <Macer> ubuntu 64 desktop just restarts my computer during the install once i tell it to continue to "install to hard drive"
[17:19] <Macer> heh
[17:19] <noodlesgc> Seith right click that file and click "Extract Here"
[17:20] <stercor> Can I have output redirection (>>) in a crontab file?
[17:20] <alcor> help me how to make deb file?
[17:20] <mask> hello there
[17:21] <mask> anyone tell me how to extract .iso file
[17:21] <mask> not with right click option
[17:21] <Seith> nooblesgc: it wont let me click on anything
[17:21] <heatmzzr> where should grub be installed when working right, on linux, on swap, on ntfs partition????
[17:22] <user_> what
[17:22] <brobostigon> heatmzzr: the mbr
[17:22] <MirJA> heatmzzr, in the MBR
[17:22] <Seith> how do i refresh
[17:22] <krept> is it possible to dual boot using 2 different hard drives?
[17:22] <jenia> hi all
[17:22] <noodlesgc> Seith I dont know why that is happening, what happens when you try to right click on it?
[17:22] <jenia> have a problem with azureus
[17:22] <brobostigon> krept: lookup grub
[17:22] <jenia> cant upload anything
[17:22] <heatmzzr> MBR is marked with the * right?
[17:23] <jenia> NAT is OK
[17:23] <MrPink_> MirJA: Sorry missed your question... I mean cut
[17:23] <Seith> bothing
[17:23] <Seith> nothing
[17:23] <silent> hey guys, I'm having a small issue with 1) wireless networking 2) compiz starting windows with the titlebars above the screen border
[17:23] <Seith> i can still move my mouse
[17:23] <noodlesgc> Seith can you click any file?
[17:23] <ULTRADJ83> falconer: a friend says it works!
[17:23] <silent> 1) I can set my location to my school network ssid and restart and it will get dhcp, but starting on another location then changing, even if I do an /etc/init.d/networking restart, it wont connect
[17:24] <silent> 2) Some, but not all windows start with their titlebars above the screen edge
[17:24] <jenia> on peers it says that connection estableshed but i dont upload anything to peers
[17:24] <secureboot> genii: more specifically, googling for exact command usage (ala, you must use 24, 30, 60 fps for mpeg), even more than syntax
[17:24] <Seith> no
[17:24] <Macer> !macer freezing install
[17:24] <Macer> heh
[17:24] <MirJA> MrPink_, edit. as we say, right ?
[17:24] <Seith> i try to go to my computer it would try to start but doesnt
[17:24] <Macer> this is the strangest thing. the 32bit version of ubuntu desktop boots fine but the 64 bit just restarts over and over
[17:24] <secureboot> genii: why there isn't a good graphical frontend that limits you to sane (read: workable) options is beyond me.  It'd be pretty simple to do.
[17:24] <Macer> and it does it rather quickly
[17:24] <Seith> i think i have to reboot
[17:25] <MrPink_> MirJA: Sorry I am german... in german it is cut... yeah edit ;)
[17:25] <noodlesgc> Seith ok
[17:25] <jenia> cant upload anything NAT is OK but on peers it says that connection estableshed but i dont upload anything to peers. HELP pls
[17:25] <Seith> brb
[17:25] <genii> secureboot: I suppose because most people that understand how the options work are not interested to a frontend
[17:25] <the-Shadow> any drivers for ubuntu out there for the "creative network blaster wireless usb adapter model CW2231"
[17:25] <the-Shadow> ?
[17:25] <lagom> how do you turn off tftp?
[17:26] <Macer> ugh.. to set up md i'd have to disable the nvraid
[17:26] <Macer> that would suck
[17:26] <falconer> ULTRADJ83. I think Ubuntu has pretty good ntfs support. I have an external disk drive with ntfs, and ubuntu reads and writes to it fine, although there are no compress files on it.
[17:26] <aoupi> lagom: /etc/init.d/tftp stop, or something similar I guess
[17:27] <lagom> aoupi:thanks
[17:27] <the-Shadow> well are there any drivers for the creative network blaster wireless usb adapter model CW2231?
[17:27] <aoupi> lagom: it will probably start again when you reboot
[17:27] <lagom> aoupi: i want it stopped permanently
[17:27] <jenia> azureus problem cant upload anything NAT is OK but on peers it says that connection estableshed but i dont upload anything to peers. HELP pls
[17:28] <aoupi> lagom: you can always uninstal it
[17:28] <jenia> any1 can help?
[17:28] <aoupi> lagom: or do you still want it installed but not running?
[17:28] <KaiForce> jenia maybe ISP is blocking?
[17:28] <MrPink_> MirJA: So any idea?
[17:28] <jenia> no
[17:28] <MirJA> MrPink_, sorry was on the phone
[17:28] <Macer> ah... it was the splash causing it
[17:28] <Macer> how lame :)
[17:28] <lagom> aoupi:still installed but not running
[17:28] <jenia> on windows it works fine
[17:28] <Macer> maybe it's the ati
[17:29] <MirJA> MrPink_, ffmpeg and mencoder are your frend
[17:29] <MrPink_> MirJA: hehe no prob... just thought maybe we'd missed each other in the chaos :D
[17:29] <Macer> i made a vow to never purchase another ati as long as i live
[17:29] <Seit1> ok im back got the terminal open on Desktop
[17:29] <ULTRADJ83> falconer: does linux access compressed files in a trasparent way like windows or it uses them like zips?
[17:29] <the-Shadow> ...?
[17:29] <kbs> hello, how is it possible to change runlevel in Gutsy? /etc/initab is not there
[17:29]  * MirJA on the phone again ;)
[17:29] <the-Shadow> well are there any drivers for the creative network blaster wireless usb adapter model CW2231?
[17:29] <falconer> ULTRADJ83, that I do not know.
[17:29] <noodlesgc> Seit1 ok right click the tar.bz2 file and click "Extract Here"
[17:29] <aoupi> lagom: I think it is "update-rc.d -f tftp remove", I'm sure someone else in here knows if it's correct or not
[17:30] <falconer> ULTRADJ83 --> look up ntfs-3g and compressed files.
[17:30] <jenia> amule crash when i try to update server list
[17:31] <ThipThip> How can I apply sudo to an action that I take in the interface?  What I mean is:  If I'm clicking around in the interface and I run into something that i need sudo for, how I can apply it?
[17:31] <aoupi> lagom: System->administration->services
[17:31] <aoupi> lagom: that is probably the correct way to do it :)
[17:31] <jenia> well i stumbled on some strange problems with ubuntu
[17:31] <MirJA> MrPink_, how you want to edit it?
[17:31] <kbs> ubotu runlevel
[17:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:31] <Plimmer> Anyone know a good tutorial for troubleshooting a wired lan dhcp network?
[17:31] <falconer> ULTRADJ83 read --> http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html#compressed
[17:31] <Seit1> ok i extract to desktop
[17:31] <lagom> aoupi: thanks
[17:32] <aoupi> lagom: you're welcome
[17:32] <MrPink_> MirJA: Well it is a flv file I have and I only want like 20 seconds from the video
[17:32] <noodlesgc> Seit1 ok now in the terminal type cd and dont hit enter, then drag and drop the folder you just exracted onto the terminal
[17:32] <MrPink_> so I just want to edit out most of it... and if possible want to embed the video in my openoffice presentation (which probably wont work)
[17:32] <Seit1> ok did that
[17:32] <frojnd> ld
[17:33] <mynyml> what cli tool can give me my lan ip address?
[17:33]  * ThipThip needs to apply sudo privileges to the GUI, but doesn't know how to do it.
[17:33] <aoupi> mynyml: ifconfig
[17:33] <mynyml> aoupi: well ifconfig gives me a lot .....
[17:33] <aoupi> mynyml: yes indeed :)
[17:33] <noodlesgc> Seit1 did you hit enter? if not, do it
[17:33] <mynyml> aoupi: figured there might be something more... straighforward?
[17:33] <aoupi> mynyml: ifconfig eth0 | grep "inet addr"
[17:34] <Shyde> ThipThip: you have to start the GUI application with root priviliges, but that isn't really recommended
[17:34] <mynyml> aoupi: hmm...
[17:34] <QuickGold> How do you enable XDMCP in 6.06 Dapper?
[17:34] <Jack_Sparrow> ThipThip: Only as needed I use gksudo nautilus
[17:34] <the-Shadow> so no drivers? no help? ghey
[17:34] <Seit1> ok
[17:34] <mynyml> aoupi: so now i know where to look. thanks
[17:34] <aoupi> mynyml: :)
[17:34] <Seit1>  a window open
[17:34] <kbs> any idea how to change boot runlevel in gutsy?
[17:35] <noodlesgc> Seit1 what window?
[17:35] <Seit1> like if i would of click on it
[17:35] <napsterx> i have a presario c700 i just did the wifi fix but i keep on getting poor connections is there any kind of fix for this ?
[17:35] <MirJA> MrPink_, mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy -ss (start point, format: hr:min:secs) -endpos (total time of the video, format: hr:min:secs) infile.flv -o outfile.flv
[17:35] <ThipThip> Shyde and Jack_Sparrow:  What is recommended then?  Just learning the command line for everything I ever need to do and using regular sudo?
[17:35] <ThipThip> (or gksudo)
[17:35] <Shyde> what exactly do you want to do ThipThip?
[17:35] <cobolt> sewers in my eye
[17:35] <noodlesgc> Seit1 dont drag and drop the file, drag and drop the folder
[17:36] <Jack_Sparrow> ThipThip: If you are running into that situation alot, you may have installed something as root instead of user.
[17:36] <the-Shadow> dont we all love getting ignored
[17:36] <MrPink_> ok cool thanks I will try that :)
[17:36] <QuickGold> How do you enable XDMCP in 6.06 Dapper?
[17:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme > the-Shadow
[17:36] <cobolt> how many fish in a kilogram?
[17:36] <vallhalla82> is there a program i can use to run sis files?
[17:36] <ThipThip> Shyde:  Well I suppose I shouldn't have used the word "need," because what I'm really referring to is such things as editing files not knowing that I need root to edit them, and then being unable to save them
[17:36] <Seit1> theres a couple of folders in it
[17:36] <the-Shadow> !helpme creative network blaster wireless usb adapter model CW2231
[17:36] <Moduliz0r> sis, isn't that symbian?
[17:36] <vallhalla82> yes
[17:37] <Seit1> and a install file
[17:37] <Jack_Sparrow> cobolt: Please dont do that...
[17:37] <cobolt> do what?
[17:37] <Moduliz0r> You'll either need a Symbian device or a Symbian OS emulator
[17:37] <cobolt> :s
[17:37] <noodlesgc> Seit1 ok, good, now type ./install
[17:37] <rotini> hello all.  is it ok to swap http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ in sources.list with lines from the mirrors page on the wiki?
[17:37] <ThipThip> (Which of course I could circumvent using sudo gedit, but I would hope there is an easier and more intuitive way, particularly if we're trying to take this project on the road to folks who aren't as comfortable in a terminal environment)
[17:37] <vallhalla82> do you know of an emu for it?
[17:37] <Seit1> !!
[17:37] <Moduliz0r> no, search for symbian in synaptic and see if there is anything there ;)
[17:38] <QuickGold> How do you enable XDMCP in 6.06 Dapper?
[17:38] <vallhalla82> ye shall do thank you
[17:38] <vallhalla82> !symbian
[17:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about symbian - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:38] <anthony> lots of pople joining
[17:38] <Seit1> i click on the install file and it ask me if i wanted to run it on the terminal and now its foing its thing
[17:38] <QuickGold> !xdmcp
[17:38] <ubotu> xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it
[17:38] <Seit1> deleting old driver n putting new one
[17:39] <Shyde> ThipThip: there's an extension to the ubuntu filemanager (nautilus) in the repositories, called "nautilus-gksu". I think it puts a "edit as root" in the context menu for text files. Have a look with "aptitude show nautilus-gksu"
[17:39] <Seit1> Ubuntu is great thanks noodlesgc
[17:39] <Moduliz0r> vallhalla82: http://gnupoc.sourceforge.net/ may be helpful, i'm not entirely sure
[17:39] <cobolt> bob dylans oesophageal juice
[17:39] <vallhalla82> nope nothing
[17:39] <noodlesgc> Seit1: no problem
[17:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > cobolt
[17:39] <ubuntuisloved> Seit1: so are kids in liquid state
[17:40] <jazzles> hi there
[17:40] <jazzles> is anyone here still using dapper drake?
[17:40] <jazzles> or have you all upgraded
[17:40] <Seit1> ok now that it finish shold i do something else
[17:40] <cobolt> what is the latest kernel version?
[17:40] <Bandit12> i have a vnc server setup on my ubuntu server. how do i login from another pc without having to grant authorisation from the ubuntu box.
[17:40] <Jack_Sparrow> cobolt: uname -a
[17:40] <QuickGold> Bandit12: Use XDMCP
[17:40] <noodlesgc> Seit: your soundcard should work, though you probably need to reboot
[17:40] <cobolt> i mean the latest released kernel
[17:40] <Seit1> how should i know
[17:41] <bullgard4> [smb.conf] What access rights does give a line "read only = no" below a [share name] line?
[17:41] <Bandit12> QuickGold: wher might i find that is it in settings someplace?
[17:41] <Jack_Sparrow> cobolt: then compare it to  2.6.22-14
[17:41] <QuickGold> !xdmcp | Bandit12
[17:41] <ubotu> Bandit12: xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it
[17:41] <cobolt> kk thanks babes
[17:42] <Bandit12> QuickGold: ok thnx i'll give that a reaD
[17:42] <QuickGold> Bandit12: I use XDMCP on a number of boxes and love it
[17:43] <MonctonJoe> when I set a desktop background, how come its gone when I reboot?
[17:43] <hobbzilla> I understand that root is locked in Ubuntu. But I don't have acces to my Ubuntu server right now and wanted to clarify something I can't test. If root is locked, does that mean root can't even log in at the console, no matter the runlevel or init?
[17:44] <pike_> hobbzilla: you can do a single user shell or recovery
[17:44] <cobolt> why is root locked?
[17:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !root > cobolt
[17:44] <pike_> security reasons sudo allows control similar to wheel in bsd when su'ing
[17:44] <m1xszeh> Hello, I have two hdds and one has ubuntu on it, the other is for media and stuff, any chances I can make it show up under Computer?
[17:45] <cobolt> lol thanks very nice
[17:45] <zapato> *bah
[17:45] <hobbzilla> pike_: thanks for the clarification.
[17:45] <benanzo> Can XDMCP be run remotely across the internet?  or just LAN
[17:45] <hobbzilla> curious as to why that is not the same in Debian...
[17:45]  * zapato dances
[17:45] <QuickGold> benanzo: you CAN run XDMCP over the net, but it can be slow and not safe
[17:46] <asdrubal> When do you guys think ubuntu will support 2.6.24 ?
[17:46] <m1xszeh> am I doing something wrong or am I a ghost, how come my Q's never get answered...
[17:46] <asdrubal> m1xszeh, what q
[17:46] <_mug> m1xszeh:
[17:46] <nalioth> mlhshino: because you are asking some really hard questions?
[17:46] <_mug> patience
[17:46] <_mug> :)
[17:47] <_mug> what FS is on that hdd/partition?
[17:47] <QuickGold> How do you enable XDMCP in 6.06 Dapper?
[17:47] <m1xszeh> asdrubal I wanted to know if there is any way to make my 2. hdd show up under "Computer" it has media on it and it's ntfs
[17:47] <m1xszeh> _mug it's ntfs
[17:47] <_mug> m1xszeh: does it show up under /media ?
[17:48] <_mug> m1xszeh: does it show up under /media ?
[17:48] <_mug> oops
[17:48] <m1xszeh> _mug yes :)
[17:48] <mynyml> isnt there a cli tool that can act as a mini server? cant seem to remember its name
[17:48] <MonctonJoe> m1xszeh: all 3 of my drives show up under "computer" and one is Ubuntu, one is Windows and one is storeage for files, aps, pics etc
[17:48] <m1xszeh> _mug is it possible to set it as "/" and have it work, maybe try converting filesystem
[17:48] <livebam> the Ubuntu live install partitioner doesnt recognize any devices
[17:48] <RobMs> hey guys / girls
[17:49] <livebam> any idea why?
[17:49] <livebam> gparted does neither
[17:49] <cobolt> me so horny
[17:49] <cobolt> whoops sorry
[17:49] <zoobox> How do I change the places-menu?
[17:49] <Jack_Sparrow> livebam: It may be a drive controller issue..
[17:49] <RobMs> o.O
[17:49] <zoobox> it is missing /
[17:50] <MonctonJoe> when I set a desktop background, how come its gone when I reboot?
[17:50] <cobolt> do you set it to a picture?
[17:50] <MonctonJoe> yep
[17:50] <cobolt> is the picture saved in your user documents?
[17:50] <m1xszeh> MonctonJoe: could u give me detailed settings on what settings you chose for your hdd's
[17:50] <Sandra24> How do I stop warnings from being treated as errors when I do a make?
[17:50] <_mug> m1xszeh: you cant set it as /, but maybe you can try to set a link to /media/foo in the Computer-folder (i think its a folder)
[17:50] <_mug> m1xszeh: just dont know where its located
[17:50] <MrPink_> MirJA: you still there?
[17:51] <MirJA> on d phone :P
[17:51] <MonctonJoe> cobolt: the pic is stored on my drive that is just all storage for pics and such
[17:51] <m1xszeh> _mug thank you, is the risk high that when converting filesystem, files will get lost
[17:51] <MonctonJoe> m1xszeh:  I have no idea sir. I just set up Ubuntu a few days ago and all my drives show up
[17:51] <zoobox> the thing called "Filesystem" is verry much missing in the Places-menu. but the crap document/video/music could be kicked out. how do I do?
[17:51] <teste_teste> boa tarde galera
[17:51] <MrPink_> MirJA: hehe ok, give me a bump when you got time :)  I have a small prob with mencoder :D
[17:52] <_mug> m1xszeh: uhh never did that.. i would backup the files
[17:52] <MonctonJoe> m1xszeh: my drives are NTFS except the one with Ubuntu on it
[17:52] <cobolt> hmmm im not so sure sorry
[17:52] <cobolt> useful i know
[17:52] <_mug> m1xszeh: is writing to ntfs safe now?
[17:53] <m1xszeh> _mug: 250 gb.. :D haven't had any problems yet
[17:53]  * MonctonJoe wishes he could find a driver for his printer, that would work in Ubuntu :(
[17:53] <Jack_Sparrow> livebam: It may be a drive controller issue.. You can try booting live cd  at start or install use F6  then add ide=nodma before the --
[17:53] <zoobox> "Programs" and "System" menus is editable, but not places (the menu between them) why?
[17:53] <Xman> can anyone tell me how to crack the password of a zip file? Is there any software available?
[17:53] <azexian> hello vermux
[17:53] <MonctonJoe> Xman yes there is software
[17:54] <Xman> MonctonJoe: which one?
[17:54] <MonctonJoe> look for .zip password cracker or .rar password recovery
[17:54] <Xman> MonctonJoe: ok
[17:54] <MonctonJoe> Xman: hang on, I have one on my windows HDD, let me get the name of it for ya
[17:55] <Xman> MonctonJoe: ok sir get it
[17:55] <Xman> for me
[17:55] <silent> Xman, if the password is complex, I wouldn't hope for cracking it quickly
[17:55] <azexian> xman just use fcrackzip,
[17:55] <azexian> xman it's in universe
[17:56] <Xman> azexian: is is fast enough
[17:56] <Xman> ?
[17:56] <azexian> xman should be
[17:56] <zoobox> it must be able to add and remove things from the Place-menu (the one that starts the filemanager), right?
[17:56] <azexian> xman just sudo apt-get install fcrackzip
[17:56] <Vermux> azexian: hi
[17:56] <azexian> vermux did it work?
[17:56] <silent> to my knowledge .rar encryption is much more complex than zip, but I'm bad at computers
[17:56] <Xman> azexian; i m running windows right now
[17:57] <Xman> ?
[17:57] <nicoleamychung> hey
[17:57] <nicoleamychung> i need help
[17:57] <silent> Xman, take a look at the channel name and take a hike
[17:57] <nicoleamychung> i need help
[17:57] <cobolt> what with?
[17:57] <azexian> xman ok, I assumed on a linux forum you would be asking help for linux
[17:57] <MonctonJoe> Xman: sorry, I cant find it now but try this one http://www.download.com/Advanced-ZIP-Password-Recovery/3000-2092_4-10025955.html
[17:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !who
[17:57] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[17:57] <MrMozart> hi! I have a question. I want to setup so that both me and my wife (different users, both in mediauser-group) have rw rights on current and future files/folders in /media/sdb1/Photos. How can I do that?
[17:57] <nicoleamychung> on the bottom of the ubuntu, there should be a bar, like a panel thing, its missing, how do i get it back
[17:58] <RobMs> try opening sumfin
[17:58] <azexian> nicoleamychung right click on the other panel and click new panel
[17:58] <RobMs> running an app etc
[17:58] <cobolt> right click top one then add new panel
[17:58] <Xman> ok thank to all of you for your kind help sir
[17:59] <nicoleamychung> azexian-and then what
[17:59] <azexian> nicoleamychung then you will have a new panel, you will need to add back the area's though, right click add to panel
[17:59] <azexian> !panel
[17:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:59] <cobolt> right click>add to panel>window list
[17:59] <cobolt> right click the new panel you created
[18:01] <cobolt> nicoleamychung, sorted?
[18:01] <MonctonJoe> where should I store pics that I want to use as desktop wallpaper?
[18:01] <Vermux> azexian: no, the computer froze
[18:01] <azexian> Monctonje anywhere you like, you can choose by right click on desktop -- wallpaper
[18:01] <Kirrus> MonctonJoe, anywhere you want.
[18:01] <nicoleamychung_> i need help
[18:01] <azexian> vermux damn, is it overheating?
[18:01] <Jack_Sparrow> MonctonJoe: ~/
[18:02] <Vermux> azexian: and I cant get into the winxp installation either
[18:02] <cobolt> what with?!
[18:02] <MonctonJoe> Kirrus: then how come my desktop goes back to a blank when I reboot, why wont the pic that I set , stay there?>
[18:02] <Kirrus> !error | nicoleamychung_
[18:02] <Vermux> azexian: also, I got yesterday the error cmos checksum error
[18:02] <nicoleamychung_> at the bottom of the ubuntu there should be a panel thing that i can't get it back to normal
[18:02] <MirJA> MonctonJoe, r u using fluxbox ?
[18:02] <nicoleamychung_> how do i do it
[18:02] <Jack_Sparrow> MonctonJoe: The real concern is putting them where you dont need special permission to get to them
[18:02] <ubotu> nicoleamychung_: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[18:02] <MonctonJoe> MirJA: I have no idea what fluxbox is, so I will say no
[18:02] <Vermux> azexian: how do I check if it is overheating or not?
[18:03] <Kirrus> nicoleamychung_, whats wrong with it
[18:03] <azexian> vermux :s well there are a lot of issues here, first the cmos thing, could be a dead cmos battery, you might need to replace it, in bios, there is system monitor there you can see the temp, just tell me your cpu temp
[18:03] <bazhang> nice factoid!
[18:03] <Xman> ok can anyone let me know that how can i install ubuntu on multiple systems at a single time? like in a computer lab
[18:03] <Jack_Sparrow> nicoleamychung_: You were getting good advice..  Where did you run into a problem
[18:03] <MonctonJoe> Jack_Sparrow: they are just stored on a windows HDD. that I can easily get to when chooseing to set the wallpaper. should that be ok?
[18:03] <Vermux> azexian: right now, Im installing winxp again because I couldnt install kubuntu. I want to flash the bios with the latest bios(even though it is beta)
[18:03] <nicoleamychung_> the bottom of the ubuntu, there should be a panel and its missing. how do i get it back on kirrus?
[18:04] <Jack_Sparrow> MonctonJoe: Yep
[18:04] <MonctonJoe> sigh
[18:04] <Kirrus> nicoleamychung_, is there a panel at the top?
[18:04] <MonctonJoe> why it keeps changin back then
[18:04] <MonctonJoe> grrr
[18:04] <azexian> vermux ok, just remember flashing your bios is still risky even today, but the overheating is likely to be the issue
[18:04] <nicoleamychung_> yeah there is kirrus
[18:04] <MirJA> MrPink_, yes my friend, am freenow
[18:04] <MirJA> XD
[18:04] <Vermux> azexian: really? I didnt think so
[18:04] <Kirrus> bazhang, yes, !error's very handy, when ubotu's not slow
[18:04] <nicoleamychung_> but the panel at the top is minimized kirrus
[18:04] <Vermux> azexian: overheating of twhat? the hard driveor the motherboard?
[18:04] <Kirrus> nicoleamychung_, right click it, and click "Add Panel"
[18:04] <Jack_Sparrow> MonctonJoe: Then it is not seeing the folder in windows... so put it in ~/
[18:05] <Desno> can some on help open a ues file
[18:05] <azexian> vermux cpu
[18:05] <bazhang> Kirrus: thanks--that is an amazing factoid!
[18:05] <nicoleamychung_> and then what kirrus?
[18:05] <kale> how do i get my usb stick to work?
[18:05] <Kirrus> nicoleamychung_, sorry, "New panel"
[18:05] <Vermux> azexian: damn
[18:05] <MonctonJoe> Jack_Sparrow: k i will try that thanx :D
[18:05] <Xman> can anyone let me know that how can i install ubuntu on multiple systems at a single time? like in a computer lab
[18:05] <Vermux> azexian: as soon as I finish installation I'll tell u the temp
[18:05] <Kirrus> nicoleamychung_, you should have seen a new panel appear somewhere on your screen
[18:05] <Desno> i have the pass work for it but the program was part of windows
[18:05] <MonctonJoe> oh and Jack_Sparrow, what is ~/ >
[18:05] <azexian> vermux ok :)
[18:05] <MonctonJoe> ?
[18:05] <Vermux> azexian: in 5 minutes
[18:05] <bazhang> home
[18:05] <azexian> vermux that's fine
[18:06] <nicoleamychung_> yes at the bottom of the screen but its too big kirrus
[18:06] <MrPink_> MirJA: Ah great :)
[18:06] <Jack_Sparrow> MonctonJoe: ~/       /home/your-user/
[18:06] <MonctonJoe> k tahnx
[18:06] <MirJA> :)
[18:06] <kksm19820117> A few years ago, when I ran Red Hat 7.0, I would edit /etc/inittab in order to get an extra X screen which I could access via Ctrl-Alt-F8. Given that I find no such file in Ubuntu's /etc/, how may I accomplish the same?I run an Ubuntu Gutsy setup (command line install) with XDM/Fluxbox.
[18:06] <Desno> can somene please help me how to open an uea file
[18:06] <Kirrus> nicoleamychung_, right click the new panel, and click properties
[18:06] <MrPink_> MirJA: I think I did what you said... and I could edit the ending away.... so now the video is only 2:45 instead of 5 minutes or whatever.... but somehow it wouldnt accept the starting point... here is what I wrote:
[18:07] <Vermux> azexian: cpu temp 37.5
[18:07] <nicoleamychung_> what do i do after clicking properties kirrus?
[18:07] <MrPink_> mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy -ss 0:2:30 -endpos 0:2:45 source.flv -o test.flv
[18:07] <azexian> vermux ok, it's not that then :s
[18:07] <Vermux> azexian: wait, there is something wrong with the power fan speed
[18:07] <rajasun> nicoleamychung_: right click on your new panel at the bottom > Properties > adjust the size
[18:07] <Xman> can anyone tell me that how can i install ubuntu on multiple systems at a single time? like in a computer lab
[18:07] <azexian> vermux ?
[18:07] <Sandra24> There must be an easy way of ignoring warnings (not treating them as error) when running a make ?
[18:07] <MirJA> MrPink_, so you want a video of 15 secs ?
[18:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !install > Xman
[18:07] <nicoleamychung_> what size do i put it on rajasun?
[18:07] <Kirrus> nicoleamychung_, then reduce the height of the panel by changing the size (should be 25). If you want the panel to stay hidden whilst you are working, tick the autohide box. Once you are finished changing the panel's settings, click close.
[18:08] <Xman> !install
[18:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[18:08] <rajasun> nicoleamychung_: man...to a size that you see fit.
[18:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Xman: See also !clone
[18:08] <rajasun> nicoleamychung_: fiddle around
[18:08] <MrPink_> MirJA: That was just a test... I am not entirely sure how the long the video will be ;D
[18:08] <Xman> !clone
[18:08] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[18:08] <asdrubal> When do you guys think ubuntu will support 2.6.24 ?
[18:08] <MrPink_> MirJA: I just wanted to see if I could decide where to start and where to stop
[18:08] <nicoleamychung_> i can't see the rubbish bin on the bottom right of the screen
[18:08] <Xman> !automate
[18:08] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[18:09] <Vermux> azexian: cpu temp 38c mb temp 30c  q-fan control is disabled cpu fan speed 2280 rpm power fan speed 1614rpm (marked in red)
[18:09] <Kirrus> nicoleamychung_, right click on the panel, click "add to panel".
[18:09] <asdrubal> When do you guys think ubuntu will support 2.6.24 ?
[18:09] <todd_> Hello yall
[18:09] <Xman> !cloning
[18:09] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[18:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Xman: Might as well go for /msg ubotu aptoncd
[18:09] <Vermux> azexian: cpu temp is 41 now
[18:09] <asdrubal> What is an unsafe temp for C2D, vermux ?
[18:09] <Kirrus> nicoleamychung_, find the "Deleted Items" or rubbish bin, and click and drag it to the panel
[18:09] <Xman> Jack_Sparrow: thnks
[18:10] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[18:10] <MirJA> MrPink_, in -ss you have to specify the starting point like from where you want to cut the video, and -endpos you specify the time span from the starting point (what we mentioned in -ss) to the end point where you want to end your video
[18:10] <Vermux> asdrubal: what is c2d?
[18:10] <bazhang> core 2 duo
[18:10] <asdrubal> Core 2 Duo
[18:10] <Kirrus> nicoleamychung_, I'd also reccomend you add the "Window List" to the left side of the panel as well
[18:10] <Vermux> asdrubal: I dont know
[18:10] <azexian> asdrubal what temp are you at?
[18:11] <MrPink_> I thought I gave it the startingpoint: -ss 0:2:30     it should start at 2:30
[18:11] <noodlesgc> I have a C2D, how do i check my temp?
[18:11] <Vermux> azexian: the power fan speed is jumping from 1614 to 3214
[18:11] <Kirrus> !gb > nicoleamychung_ you might find this room helpful if you're in the uk
[18:11] <MirJA> MrPink_, for example i have a video of 02:10:00 and i want to cut it from 20 mins upto 50mins, so i would putin the options like, -ss 00:20:00 -endpos 00:30:00
[18:11] <Vermux> azexian: I think it maight be the power supply
[18:12] <Desno> can anyone help me please
[18:12] <nicoleamychung__> help
[18:12] <azexian> vermux that's not that irregular, it normaly auto changes based on heat
[18:12] <noodlesgc> Desno, whats the probelem
[18:12] <Kirrus> !ask | nicoleamychung__
[18:12] <ubotu> nicoleamychung__: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:12] <Vermux> azexian: the 5v voltage was in red too at the beginning- now it is 4.89
[18:12] <nicoleamychung__> i can't find the rubbish bin on the bottom right of the panel
[18:12] <azexian> vermux how many watts is your psu?
[18:12] <Vermux> azexian: cpu temp is 41
[18:13] <azexian> vermux what cpu is this?
[18:13] <Desno> i have a file that its encrypted i use to put my password when i had window since i change over to ubuntu i cant open it no more can someone help me please
[18:13] <Kirrus> nicoleamychung__, right click on the panel, click "Add to panel",  find the "Deleted Items" or rubbish bin, and click and drag it to the panel
[18:13] <Vermux> azexian: 360w
[18:13] <azexian> vermux what is your cpu?
[18:14] <Vermux> azexian: the motherboard is p4c800 deluxe. Intel 3 GB cpu
[18:14] <frogmeat> Hey all, so here is my problem of the day, I typed ping then an ip into my terminal, and the damn thing just won't stop, do I just close the terminal? WTF is going on lmao
[18:14] <kbs> is it possible to boot into command line with network enabled?
[18:14] <MirJA> for whoever was asking for uea file opening: http://forums.eyesonff.com/help-forum/113781-uea-file-extension.html
[18:14] <Desno> the files Extension is .uea
[18:14] <azexian> vermux that psu is far too weak for you mobo then
[18:14] <MrPink_> MirJA: "mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy -ss 00:02:30 -endpos 00:01:30 source.flv -o test2.flv"  I thought this would start at 2:30 and go on for 1:30 so end at 4:00 ?
[18:14] <MirJA> i guess it was Desno
[18:14] <Desno> ok thanx
[18:14] <azexian> vermux what is your graphics card?
[18:14] <noodlesgc> frogmeat: try ctrl+C
[18:14] <nicoleamychung__> kirrus, and also when i minimize certain things, its not on the panel when it should be
[18:14] <bod_> does anyone no where VLC is installed to?
[18:14] <Vermux> azexian: really?
[18:15] <azexian> vermux what gpu do you use?
[18:15] <Vermux> azexian: ati radeon 9200 128mb
[18:15] <MrPink_> MirJA: But it starts at the beginning of the Video and goes for 1:30
[18:15] <azexian> vermux pci-e?
[18:15] <MirJA> MrPink_, you got it man :) you are a smart ass XD
[18:15] <Kirrus> nicoleamychung__, you also need to add the "window list" to the panel.
[18:15] <asdrubal> Azer, 88F
[18:15] <MrPink_> MirJA: Yeah well its not working ^^
[18:15] <Vermux> azexian: what is gpu, remind me?
[18:15] <MrMozart> hi! I have a question. I want to setup so that both me and my wife (different users, both in mediauser-group) have rw rights on current and future files/folders in /media/sdb1/Photos. How can I do that?
[18:15] <nicoleamychung__> kirrus, how do i do that?
[18:15] <Pici> !offtopic
[18:15] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:15] <azexian> vermux graphics card
[18:15] <MirJA> well it should be
[18:15] <asdrubal> azexian,  88F
[18:15] <Kirrus> !gb > nicoleamychung__ you might find this channel quieter to ask questions in.
[18:16] <MrPink_> MirJA: It gives me the first 1:30 of the Video
[18:16] <Vermux> azexian: it is not connected to the pci, it is gpa
[18:16] <m1xszeh> is this swap partition necessary? I mean I have a 200gb & 250 gb hdd
[18:16] <MrPink_> MirJA: From the beginning to 1:30
[18:16] <azexian> vermux ok
[18:16] <MirJA> hmm
[18:16] <Vermux> azexian: so the power supply is too weak?
[18:16] <azexian> vermux it depends, what cpu?
[18:16] <MirJA> just wait, lemme check
[18:16] <MrPink_> MirJA: Does that have anything to do with it being flv? I wouldn't think so, but you never know
[18:16] <m1xszeh> !swap
[18:16] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[18:16] <MrPink_> MirJA: Ok thanks m8
[18:16] <azexian> vermux (soz, missed your msg)
[18:16] <Kirrus> nicoleamychung__, right click the panel, click add to panel, find "window list", click, drag and drop window list to the left side of your bottom panel
[18:16] <kbs> ubotu boot
[18:16] <bod_> hey guys,.,. im trying to get new themes for VLC media player,.,. but i cant find the folder that VLC is installed in ,.,. does anyone know?
[18:16] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[18:16] <nicoleamychung__> kirrus: how do add the windows list to the panel?
[18:17] <Kirrus> nicoleamychung__, see above :)
[18:17] <filthpig> bod_, open a terminal and type "locate vlc"
[18:17] <azexian> bod__ /usr/share/vlc
[18:17] <cocox_> do you know the pulgnplay daemon name on ubuntu ??
[18:17] <frogmeat> Hey all, I love Ubuntu like crazy, but why is it that sometimes I log in the sound does not work and/or the screen resolution has changed itself?
[18:17] <balbir> exit
[18:18] <azexian> vermux your message doesn't say your cpu type, just intel, which one is it?
[18:18] <frogmeat> and is there a way to fix it quickly instead of rebooting?
[18:18] <rindolf> Hi all.
[18:18] <bod_> filthpig, azexian ,. cheers guys
[18:18] <bazhang> nicoleamychung__: right click on the panel and find it, then add it
[18:18] <cocox_> hi
[18:18] <azexian> np
[18:18] <rindolf> Where can I find an Ubuntu Gutsy installation CD?
[18:18] <rindolf> I don't want to download the whole Live DVD.
[18:18] <Vermux> azexian: azexian how do I check
[18:18] <noodlesgc> frogmeat, to fix display, type gnome-display-properties and click "Default for this session"
[18:18] <bazhang> www.ubuntu.com rindolf
[18:19] <rindolf> bazhang: hmm...
[18:19] <violet> someone has managed to use sudo with NO password?
[18:19] <azexian> vermux it will probably say at startup, if not then on windows start --> run --> dxdiag
[18:19] <rindolf> bazhang: I tried http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/release/
[18:19] <Vermux> azexian: intel pentium 4 3 gh
[18:19] <OneMike> i have a hard drive mounting problem can anyone help me out?
[18:19] <QuickGold> How do you enable XDMCP in 6.06 Dapper?
[18:19] <rindolf> From https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon
[18:19] <Vermux> azexian: I found it in the bios
[18:19] <cocox_> violet, yes you have to set that in /etc/sudoers
[18:19] <m1xszeh> !logical
[18:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logical - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:19] <bazhang> rindolf: the homepage will let you choose a mirror closest to you
[18:19] <noodlesgc> rindolf, use axel
[18:19] <genii> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[18:20] <sx66> livebam: are you using a live usb, or live cd?
[18:20] <seth_> fuck you
[18:20] <m1xszeh> The partition with ubuntu on it is primary, rest logical?
[18:20] <bazhang> seth stop
[18:20] <Kirrus> !language seth_
[18:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language seth_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:20] <azexian> vermux ok, that should not be that hot idle, I suggest you might want to replace your cpu with something at least 400w
[18:20] <Kirrus> !language | seth_
[18:20] <ubotu> seth_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[18:20] <cocox_> rindolf, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[18:21] <MrMozart> hi! I have a question. I want to setup so that both me and my wife (different users, both in mediauser-group) have rw rights on current and future files/folders in /media/sdb1/Photos. How can I do that?
[18:21] <bazhang> rindolf: you know now :}
[18:21] <Bandit12> my wifi won't start when i boot (7.10) it will after i do /etc/init.d/network restart. can i get it to boot automatically
[18:21] <Pici> MrMozart: put both users in a group and give that group rights to that directory.
[18:21] <Macer> hm... i was able to get the desktop cd to boot by disabling the splash
[18:21] <MrMozart> Pici; it doesnt help for future files/folders
[18:21] <Vermux> azexian: ok, what about flashing the bios- in Asus web site they have latest version but beta from 2005
[18:21] <dominicus> Help: new sound card is not being detected (by lspci)
[18:22] <cocox_> Does anybody knows the PLUGNPLAY daemon name on ubuntu ??????????????? i ve been looking in /etc/rc2.d
[18:22] <Macer> guess my video card just sucks when it comes to direct console access :)
[18:22]  * Macer can live without the ubuntu splash screen 
[18:22] <violet> someone has managed to use sudo with NO password?; http://pastebin.ca/869970
[18:22] <Macer> it's strange though. dmraid sets up the drive as an lvm
[18:22] <bazhang> violet but offtopic here
[18:22] <sx66> Macer: auto login?
[18:22] <azexian> vermux if you are happy to do that, and you are sure it's the right version for your mobo then that's fine, have you done it before?
[18:22] <Macer> i wonder if the installer will be able to boot this
[18:22] <MrObvious> violet: Sudo never shows a password. :|
[18:22] <Macer> sx66? i'm installing
[18:22] <bod_> azexian, on this site:http://www.videolan.org/vlc/skins.php   ,.,. it tells me about skins for vlc,. on the right hand side in the orange box,. about half way down it says,. "Linux users: Put it in ~/.vlc/skins2" that is /home/bod/.vlc/skins2    yer?    that dir doesnt exist
[18:22] <MirJA> MrPink_, i guess i made a little mistake, it should be -ss starting time -endpos (for what time span you want the video, for example if you want a video of 6 mins, it would be six mins)
[18:22] <Macer> it would crash and reboot during install :)
[18:23] <sx66> Macer: live cd, or usb?
[18:23] <Vermux> azexian: yes, in the far past
[18:23] <dominicus> Help: 'lspci' does not see a new sound card
[18:23] <Macer> live cd
[18:23] <rindolf> Thanks all.
[18:23] <rindolf> It works now.
[18:23] <rindolf> Bye.
[18:23] <Macer> ubuntu desktop AMD64
[18:23] <MrObvious> violet: Nevermind, I didn't look at the link.
[18:23] <MrObvious> !enter | macer
[18:23] <ubotu> macer: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:23] <violet> sorry, I made a mess, I mean configure sudo so that it doens't ASK for password. this is my sudoers http://pastebin.ca/869970
[18:23] <noodlesgc> violet that is suicide
[18:23] <MrPink_> MirJA: yes but why did it still not recognize the -ss 00:02:30  to start at 2:30 ?
[18:23] <azexian> bod_ providing you run vlc as that user, it should be there, type ls ~/.vlc* to see if it is called anything else, if not make it
[18:23] <MrPink_> MirJA: Why did it start at the very beginning of the Video?
[18:23] <dominicus> Help: 'lspci' does not see a new sound card
[18:23] <bazhang> violet may as well run ##windows
[18:23] <MirJA> MrPink_, it does here
[18:24] <azexian> vermux ok, is there anyway you could test another psu in that system?
[18:24] <MrMozart> anyone who knows how to setup a common folder that two users have rw-access to (INCLUDING future files)
[18:24] <MrMozart> ?
[18:24] <MrObvious> violet: Why?
[18:24] <Vermux> azexian: it happaned again, now. I tried to bring xp up
[18:24] <flamsmark> From single user mode, can anyone help me repair a broken usplash theme?
[18:24] <bod_> azexian,  create that directory,.,. ok cheers
[18:24] <MirJA> MrPink_, if that the issue it maybe someor something,dont know about that, you can try asking in #mplayer
[18:24] <noodlesgc> violet just read the man page
[18:24] <zobf> MrMozart: type "man addgroup" at a terminal and read that.
[18:24] <dominicus> Help: 'lspci' does not see a PCI device at all
[18:24] <MirJA> some error****
[18:24] <Vermux> azexian: the computer made a sound of knocking and froze
[18:25] <violet> ok, with fluxbuntu running icewm and I want to shutdown the PC without typing the password
[18:25] <azexian> vermux knocking? strange, is that when booting win?
[18:25] <cocox_> Does anybody knows the PLUGNPLAY daemon name on ubuntu ??????????????? i ve been looking in /etc/rc2.d
[18:25] <noodlesgc> dominicus what brand
[18:25] <dominicus> sound blaster x-fi xtreme gamer fatal1ty pro series
[18:25] <dfcarney> Vermux: a knocking sound?  like a double-click?
[18:25] <krept> fatal1ty has his own soud card? lol
[18:26] <dominicus> noodlesgc: I'm testing it on an Ubuntu system because I had no luck on Windows. I just wanna know if it is even being detected
[18:26] <dfcarney> Vermux: i just tuned in to this conversation...  can you get to a command prompt in linux at all?
[18:26] <Pici> cocox_: Are you thinking of udev?
[18:26] <Vermux> dfcarney: no one click
[18:26] <violet> someone could tell me if my sudoers is correct http://pastebin.ca/869970
[18:26] <OneMike> hey i have a drive mounting problem and need help anyone got a sec?
[18:26] <azexian> dfcamey we did that last night :p
[18:26] <Vermux> azexian: yes, click sound. after booting from xp
[18:26] <cocox_> Pici, that is?
[18:27] <MrPink_> MirJA: Yeah well maybe I am doing something wrong... cuz I compared to original video and the new generated video starts like 4 seconds after the original... so the starting point is like 4 seconds later...
[18:27] <Vermux> dfcarney: too late, I deleted the partitions with win installation cd
[18:27] <brobostigon> OneMike: fire away
[18:27] <azexian> vermux well it sounds like a system problem rather then a software issue then, I hope for your sake it's your psu, as they are pretty cheap, but the cmos problem is also strange, that could be any number of things...
[18:27] <MirJA> hmm
[18:27] <noodlesgc> dominicus I dont know, just google around
[18:27] <MirJA> MrPink_, you can always refer to the manpage
[18:27] <Pici> cocox_: Its for managing devices that are detected by the kernel
[18:28] <Vermux> azexian: it happaned once , that error
[18:28] <epimeteo> hi ppl. I've installed drupal5 in ubuntu (deb package from repos). I've setup the multisite (databases, mysql users and permitions, directories, vhosts). Sites are firstsite.com and secondsite.com. The problem is that both sites also work with firstsite.com/drupal5/ and secondsite.com/drupal5/. Can anybody tell me why?
[18:28] <azexian> vermux http://www.tech-faq.com/cmos-checksum-bad-error.shtml a narrow list :
[18:28] <azexian> vermux :s
[18:28] <bod_> azexian, that didnt work,.,. the strange thing is theres a link to a folder called skins2 already in the vlc player interface,. but it loads a skin i didnt download,. how would i find this folder?
[18:28] <MrPink_> MirJA: yeah but that is a lot of stuff and I am kind of under time pressure :(
[18:28] <dfcarney> Vermux: it does sound like your power supply is too weak (as azexian stated earlier)
[18:28] <OneMike> Brobo: ok i have a secondary hard drive installed and i just installed ubuntu from windows and it says i have to force mount it cause it wasnt shut down properly i have a lot of important stuff on it and cant lose it will force mounting erase anything?
[18:29] <dfcarney> Vermux: you can get a cheap multimeter at most electronic stores if you want to double-check
[18:29] <azexian> bod_ locate skins2
[18:30] <bod_> azexian, i dont get any output,. it just gives me another line as if ive pressed enter without typing a command
[18:30] <epimeteo> i've tried to remove the /etc/drupal/5/apache.conf link to /etc/apache2/conf.d/drupal.conf, but http://firstsite.com/drupal5/ still works. Anybody can say why? please?
[18:30] <azexian> bod_ try places --> search for files and places
[18:30] <dfcarney> vermux: most modern Intel (and AMD) cpu's aren't certified unless you have (at least) a 400 W power supply.
[18:30] <Macer> OK
[18:30] <Macer> i give up on dmraid
[18:30] <Macer> heh
[18:31] <Macer> i can see the raid.. but it will not split it up into partitions
[18:31] <Macer> or at least it says it does but it does not work
[18:31] <azexian> vermux you might also want to check a cheap fan in there, but that's optional, the heat is a bit off, but that might be the psu...
[18:31] <Macer> maybe if i reboot and try again
[18:31] <Vermux> dfcarney: the computer is 3 years old almsot
[18:31] <bod_> azexian, no output,.,. if the file was hidden would the search feauters find them?
[18:31] <primavera> hi, I'm getting this error in ubuntu: ERROR 2003 (HY000): Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.62.58' (111), I'm trying to connect from a pc in the same network
[18:31] <cocox_> Pici, but i want just to disable usb plugnplay
[18:31] <primavera> any ideas?
[18:31] <dfcarney> Vermux: what's your point?
[18:31] <azexian> bod_ yes, if it doesn't find it, then it doesn't exist ;p
[18:31] <Vermux> azexian: one sec, I have to check here if I have an extra psu
[18:31] <azexian> vermux ok
[18:32] <Vermux> dfcarney: maybe back then 360w was enough?
[18:32] <azexian> vermux :p
[18:32] <patrick_> hee
[18:33] <dfcarney> Vermux: doubtful, unfortunately.  i hand-built a lot of systems around that time and both AMD/Intel stated that 400 W was a minimum for most systems
[18:33] <patrick_> whatsuppp
[18:33] <Kirrus> primavera, have you enabled remote mysql access?
[18:33] <OneMike> brobostigon:did you see that?
[18:33] <nintendoteenager> hey
[18:33] <dfcarney> Vermux: you can do the approximate math by just adding up the power requirements of the components (CPU, disks, motherboard, video card, etc)
[18:33] <primavera> Kirrus, nope, where do I enable it? my.cnf ?
[18:34] <brobostigon> OneMike: sorry, no, i was in the bathroom??
[18:34] <dfcarney> Vermux: count on at least 25 W for a motherboard, maybe more
[18:34] <bod_> azexian, the search feature doesnt work,.,. i can see the file i made if i browse but the search still wont find it?
[18:34] <OneMike> brobostigon:ok i have a secondary hard drive installed and i just installed ubuntu from windows and it says i have to force mount it cause it wasnt shut down properly i have a lot of important stuff on it and cant lose it will force mounting erase anything?
[18:34] <azexian> bod_ locate doesn't always work, if the search feature doesn't find it then it is a bug
[18:34] <Sandra24> The answer to doing a make and avoiding warnings being treated as errors is to edit the Makefile, and remove -Werror from $CFLAGS
[18:34] <Kirrus> primavera, yes... you need to change the bind address from 127.0.0.1 to the computers public address
[18:35] <Kirrus> primavera, or rather, the address you want mysql to listen on
[18:35] <bod_> azexian, anyway of fixing this bug?
[18:35] <dfcarney> Vermux: also, some power supplies degrade over time (and components in computers do as well) -- meaning that less power is generated for devices which pull more current
[18:35] <dfcarney> Vermux: could be that you were sitting at the edge before and, now, you're just over it
[18:35] <azexian> bod__ you have the folder, what is the issue
[18:35] <brobostigon> OneMike: i would check the hdd first(fsck), and then that might coorectthe errors so you can mount it cleanly.
[18:35] <azexian> there is a nice tool here for psu requirements: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp remember it's only a min
[18:35] <primavera> Kirrus, does it accept wildcards?, I need to use the server on multiple computers
[18:36] <nintendoteenager> i just switched from windows im looking for apps
[18:36] <bod_> azexian, no i have a folder of the same name which i created,.,. but i want to file the file vlc created when it was installed
[18:36] <dfcarney> Vermux: anyway, the easiest way to check is to get a little voltmeter to see if your +5V and +12V supplies dip
[18:36] <OneMike> brobostigon: how do i do that cause im new to ubuntu
[18:36] <nintendoteenager> what are the best torrent and media players? like winamp and utorrent]
[18:36] <primavera> Kirrus, or should I another bind address line
[18:36] <RobMs> wheres a good place to get themes for ubuntu? and how do i install them?
[18:36] <Kirrus> primavera, I'm not sure. But as long as you set the computer's ip address right, you can access it from any machine on that network
[18:36] <patrick_> problem, my sound doenst work after i want to play a mp3 file, the intire programs shuts down
[18:36] <primavera> *should I add
[18:36] <|REM|> how can i turn off the beep in gnokii.  i have the sound muted, but if i am in the terminal and hit tab for a dir that doesnt exist, i get this beep pc speaker beep that is annoying me
[18:36] <QuickGold> nintendoteenager: run a google search for "best ubuntu applications" and you will find lots of lists with great apps
[18:36] <|REM|> sorry not gnokii, ubuntu
[18:36] <nintendoteenager> cool thanks
 I reccomend banshee for music and utorrent (through wine)
[18:37] <brobostigon> OneMike: in terminal type, fsck /dev/***, replacting the ** with its device name
[18:37] <nintendoteenager> through wine?
[18:37] <nintendoteenager> whats wine?
[18:37] <brobostigon> !wine
[18:37] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
 winehq.org
[18:38] <azexian> vermux is it not /usr/share/vlc/ ?
[18:38] <azexian> bod__ is it not /usr/share/vls/ ?
[18:38] <RobMs> i have installed language support for english and french, is there a way to switch the gui between languages?
[18:38] <Kirrus> |REM|, this should helpL  http://strabes.wordpress.com/2006/10/16/how-to-remove-the-system-beep-in-ubuntu-dapper/
[18:38] <Vermux> dfcarney: ok, I found the exact same psu here, I can install it and test it.
[18:38] <nintendoteenager> ill read up on it
[18:38] <|REM|> Kirrus: Awesome.  Thanks!
[18:38] <OneMike> brobostigon: ok then the problem with that is that the hdd name is /dev/my stuff with a space and its saying it cant find it cause its only lookin for /dev/my casue of the space
[18:38] <azexian> vermux ok
[18:38] <nicoleamychung> how do i install programs like amule
[18:38] <nicoleamychung> ?
[18:38] <Vermux> azexian: it is 380w max
[18:38] <nandemonai> |REM|: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9246
[18:38] <bod_> azexian, nope,.,. anyway thanks ,. i g2g ,. cheers
[18:39] <RobMs> add/remove nicolemychung?
[18:39] <azexian> vermux what do you mean? that system is very nice :0
[18:39] <Kirrus> nicoleamychung, click on Applications > Add/Remove
[18:39] <azexian> bod_ bye
[18:39] <brobostigon> OneMike: ok, try it with gparted, thats graphicaal,and shouldnt have that problem
[18:39] <RobMs> so anyone know if its possible to switch between gui languages?
[18:40] <OneMike> brobostigon: ok where do i find that
[18:40] <brobostigon> OneMike: in terminal type, sudo apt-get install gparted
[18:40] <Vermux> dfcarney: I think that the 380w sould be fine. I'll replace them and c
[18:40] <meaganicole> how do i install amule?
[18:41] <OneMike> brobostigon: ok ill give it a try thanks alot
[18:41] <brobostigon> meaganicole: sudo apt-get install amule
[18:41] <meaganicole> ok
[18:41] <meaganicole> where do i type that
[18:41] <brobostigon> in a terminal
[18:41] <meaganicole> do i type that in terminal
[18:42] <brobostigon> yes
[18:42] <barry_> i need help installing the Enemy Territory: Quake Wars demo for linux im new to linux and want 2 see if my system performs good on a game
[18:42] <RobMs> so does anyone know anything about multiple language support in ubuntu?
[18:42] <harushimo> question for you
[18:42] <harushimo> is their a way to extract .zip file in ubuntu
[18:42] <ksiads> System ->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager - search for amule
[18:43] <brobostigon> harushimo: file-roller
[18:43] <nintendoteenager> im at the wine site and it says i need to open a terminal window
[18:43] <harushimo> where is file-roller?
[18:43] <nintendoteenager> how do i open this?
[18:43] <harushimo> is installed by default in ubuntu
[18:43] <brobostigon> type that into terminal
[18:43] <harushimo> okay
[18:43] <meaganicole> how do i update the ubuntu?
[18:43] <ksiads> Application->Accessories>Terminal
[18:43] <RobMs> :'-(
[18:43] <brobostigon> sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:44] <b94> hii
[18:44] <b94> anyone use a sun computer hereee :D
[18:44] <barry_> CD to the folder where
[18:44] <barry_> you have downloaded the file how do i do this in terminal
[18:44] <Juhaz> lyijy:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo
[18:44] <Juhaz> cpu             : TI UltraSparc IIi (Sabre)
[18:44] <RobMs> as in solaris?
[18:44] <b94> OH FOOOKin cool
[18:44] <b94> T1
[18:44] <b94> :| holy crap
[18:44] <meaganicole> it won't let me install amule
[18:44] <Pici> !offtopic | b94
[18:44] <ubotu> b94: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:44] <kale> how do i get my usb stick to work ?
[18:45] <azexian> kale what doesn't work about it?
[18:45] <b94> mount it?
[18:45] <brobostigon> kale: plug it in, it should automount
[18:45] <meaganicole> kale:may be not supportive
[18:45] <b94> brobostigon o it automounts
[18:45] <b94> cool
[18:45] <kale> it mounts wrong mount says rw, but user cannot write to it
[18:45] <meaganicole> the terminal ask me to update ubuntu because i couldn't install amuke
[18:45] <meaganicole> amule*
[18:45] <\Dj\Krit\> test
[18:46] <\Dj\Krit\> it says i'm in the unregged room, am i?
[18:46] <genii> permissions on mount
[18:46] <barry_> how do i do this in terminal im trying to install a game CD to the folder where
[18:46] <barry_> you have downloaded the .run file and type
[18:46] <kale> meaganicole: it is supported
[18:46] <ksiads> Use Synaptic Package Manager to install amule.
[18:46] <kale> azexian: it mounts, but permissions are wrong
[18:46] <azexian> kale ok, is the folder setup correctly (the folder it mounts in)
[18:46] <meaganicole> ok ksiads,i'll try but last time it didn't work
[18:46] <genii> kale: You need a folder on the mount which the user trying to write there can use
[18:47]  * azexian afk
[18:47] <RazzoRz> Hey Folks..
[18:47]  * azexian back
[18:47] <karim> salam
[18:47] <kale> azexian: how would i know if it is correct?
[18:47] <kale> azexian: should it have specific permissions?
[18:48] <danonura> how do you find info about which Display Driver is installed?
[18:48] <Enron> Eulex, I have a sdb1 partition which is hundreds of gigs, I think it was misconfigured since it shows up as ntfs and I dont see itunder mount.  How can I use it to store data ?
[18:48] <meaganicole> ksiads, can't use synaptic package manager
[18:48] <RazzoRz> Can anyone point me in the right direction to set up a server in 7.10,  ( without installing the Server live cd )
[18:48] <azexian> kale if you want your user to be able to write to it, then the folder needs to be the write permissons, do sudo chmod 777 to the folder in command
[18:48] <kale> genii: so the user has to create /media/disk, BEFORE inserting the usbstick?
[18:48] <barry_> how do i do this im trying to install a game and its says to do tihs CD to the folder where
[18:48] <barry_> you have downloaded the .run file and type
[18:49] <meaganicole> anyone help! how do i update ubuntu?
[18:49] <ArsonaL> Hey, I am wondering how the ttyX's are handled in a liveCD situation.. I've noticed that when the tty's are spawned they are passed /bin/login -f ubuntu, and I've done everything in my power just to make them exec /bin/login, gone so far as modifying the initramfs of the cd to write the config for the tty right on boot, but no matter what it automatically drops a shell.. and I want it to drop to login when I boot it
[18:49] <asdrubal> meaganicole, rm -rf /
[18:49] <asdrubal> j/k
[18:49] <ksiads> How about Add Remove Applications?
[18:49] <meaganicole> what asdrubal
[18:49] <azexian> no!
[18:49] <rsk> meaganicole: this in an terminal sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:49] <asdrubal> just kidding
[18:49] <kale> azexian: when the usbstick is not plugged in, there is no /media/disk directory, how can i set the permissions then?
[18:49] <italo20> ciao
[18:49] <ArsonaL> append: with /etc/event.d/ttyX
[18:49] <rsk> ksiads: run sudo synaptic in a terminal
[18:50] <rolando> server irc.cl
[18:50] <meaganicole> ok
[18:50] <Pici> meaganicole: DONT listen to asdrubal
[18:50] <italo20> !list
[18:50] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:50] <azexian> kale I see what you mean, when plugged in you could try that command with -r to make it do all the folders
[18:50] <Pici> !upgrade | meaganicole
[18:50] <ubotu> meaganicole: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[18:50] <meaganicole> so what do i type into the terminal to get the update rsk?
[18:50] <ArsonaL> essentially I am trying to create a LiveCD distro that is console only... does anyone know of something pre-existing that is like that?
[18:50] <genii> kale: No. /media/disk has same permissions as /dev/whateveritis    that you are mounting, that is to say root. And it is re-created each boot this way. You need to make a folder inside of that like /media/disk/myname   then make sure the persone "myname" owns that
[18:50] <rsk> meaganicole: what i said
[18:51] <kale> azexian: yes, but this is vfat, hence it cannot remember the permissions, filesystem does not support it, so changing permissions on the device will not work
[18:51] <rsk> ArsonaL: the alternative cd is like that
[18:51] <meaganicole> ok pici
[18:51] <genii> kale: Ah vfat
[18:51] <ArsonaL> rsk: oh really.
[18:51] <kale> azexian: permissions should be set when the system mounts it e.g. uid= or gid=
[18:51] <CrazyWulf> I've been having a strange problem lately.   Basically anytime I transfer/download large files my mouse will start to get extremely laggy.    I can't pinpoint when it happens exactly, I'm guessing after 200mb or so.    Any ideas please?    The only way to get it back to normal is to restart my entire system :(
[18:51] <azexian> arsonal there are lots like that
[18:51] <genii> kale: Yes, mount options to determine uid or write mask then
[18:51] <azexian> kale ok
[18:51] <ArsonaL> I tried building something custom with the Desktop version
[18:52] <kale> genii: ok, but where do i place these mount options?
[18:52] <ArsonaL> it worked well except for that whole executing login thing
[18:52] <Pici> CrazyWulf: can you run top or htop when this happens to see whats using up your CPU?
[18:52] <ArsonaL> azexian: can you name some?
[18:52] <CrazyWulf> Yes, all resources are perfectly normal
[18:52] <azexian> arsonaL there are plenty, look on distrowatch
[18:52] <CrazyWulf> All applications run normal....It's just the mouse that's lagging
[18:52] <Enron> I have a sdb1 partition which is hundreds of gigs, I think it was misconfigured since it shows up as ntfs and I dont see itunder mount.  How can I use it to store data ?
[18:53] <CrazyWulf> Nothing is using up the cup
[18:53] <genii> kale: in the /etc/fstab
[18:53] <CrazyWulf> cpu
[18:53] <kale> genii: so i set up the devices mounted by plugdev in fstab?
[18:53] <azexian> vermux did you try the other psu?
[18:54] <m1xszeh> garr what irc client r u guys using
[18:54] <kale> genii: and what if i add a new device, should i add an fstab line for every device i have?
[18:54] <MirJA> m1xszeh, irssi, Xchat
[18:54] <CrazyWulf> Any ideas on what could be causing this mouse lag?
[18:55] <m1xszeh> MirJA, thank you
[18:55] <MirJA> np
[18:55] <azexian> kale that should be auto
[18:55] <kale> azexian: it should be added to fstab automagically?
[18:55] <azexian> kale it should only really need to be tweeked, rairly re-writen
[18:55] <noodlesgc> why were there no updates today?
[18:55] <genii> kale: Only for the problemmatic ones usually. Adding the username to the group of plugdev may be useful here actually
[18:55] <azexian> kale yes
[18:56] <OneMike> brobostigon:  gparted wouldnt do anything
[18:56] <jewmann> I run an Ubuntu mirror  using debmirror with the switch:    --dist=gutsy,gutsy-updates,gutsy-security,gutsy-proposed,gutsy-backports
[18:56] <kale> ok, it has worked 'bout a year ago, and this is a regular usbstick, so i don't see what wrong here
[18:56] <jewmann> I want to mirror hardy heron as well though
[18:56] <kale> also user is added to grupd plugdev
[18:56] <jewmann> Do I just add 'hardy' to that list or are there all the other sections for hardy as well?
[18:56] <kale> sorry to group plugdev
[18:56] <jewmann> I can't imagine the need for a hardy-backports for example.
[18:57] <azexian> kale, why not force it to mount somewhere, that you have preset to chmod 777, just as a trial, also, you might what to format to fat32 so that you can set permissions, I myself rairly play around with that kind of thing, as you should never need to
[18:58] <tuxmaniac> after a upgrade all my videos are in monochrome
[18:58] <tuxmaniac> is this a known issue?
[18:58] <kale> azexian: what file would you chmod 777 ?
[18:58] <benanzo> How do I specify a specific DNS server to use when querying a site?
[18:58] <azexian> kale the folder
[18:58] <benanzo> without changing my global DNS settings in resolv.conf
[18:59] <Shizark> can I add additional language support into Gaim?
[18:59] <brobostigon> benanzo: /etc/resolv.conf
[18:59] <angelo> hola
[19:00] <benanzo> Yes I know but I don't want to change resolv.conf -- I just want to test resolving a URL using a certain DNS server, not changing my global settings
[19:00] <J-W_> hello, I'm looking for a program to record from line in directly to mp3, I don't care if it's gui or terminal. Any suggestions?
[19:00] <benanzo> there is a tool to do it but I forget
[19:01] <void^> benanzo: host
[19:01] <azexian> accessories --> multimedia --> sound recorder
[19:02] <Pie-rate> what's the best way to install the latest version of nvidia legacy drivers? the ones that come with gutsy don't seem to support composite
[19:02] <azexian> J-W is that what you want?
[19:02] <azexian> pie-rate try envy
[19:02] <Pici> !envy | Pie-rate azexian
[19:02] <ubotu> Pie-rate azexian: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[19:02] <MrObvious> lol
[19:02] <Pie-rate> Pici: that's what i was about to do
[19:02] <J-W_> azexian: omg it does mp3 aswell, guess I subconsiously compared it to the crappy windows sound recorder :P *shame* thx
[19:03] <azexian> J-W_ lol
[19:03] <azexian> pici I could only use envy, I needed the latested drivers, but thanks for the thought
[19:04] <Vermux> azexian: Im working on it
[19:04] <azexian> vermux ok =)
[19:05] <nintendoteenager> how do i install utorrent?
[19:05] <MrObvious> nintendoteenager: It's a Windows only app, so Wine. But there are other good alternatives. A popular one seems to be rtorrnet.
[19:06] <brobostigon> nintendoteenager: do a search in synaptic
[19:06] <azexian> nintendoteenager try deluge
[19:06] <MrObvious> nintendoteenager: Or try wine if you MUST have it.
[19:06] <MrObvious> !wine
[19:06] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[19:06] <nintendoteenager> im willing to try new apps
[19:06] <rsk> nintendoteenager: wine utorrent.exe
[19:06] <azexian> nintendoteenager rtorrent is console only app, deluge is similar to utorrent
[19:07] <nintendoteenager> what is console only?
[19:07] <MrObvious> nintendoteenager: rtorrent
[19:07] <Keigo-kun> nintendoteenager: Deluge is the best torrent program for linux
[19:07] <Keigo-kun> nintendoteenager: It's basically identical to uTorrent
[19:07] <nintendoteenager> cool ill google deluge
[19:07] <kale> can i stop plugdev from taking care of my usb sticks?
[19:08] <Enron> Is there any downside to writing to an ntfs partition vs converting the partitiona and then writing to it
[19:08] <meaganicole> how do i install limewire on linux?
[19:08] <J-W_> nintendoteenager: Azureus also works fine under ubuntu, but it requires a working java
[19:08] <MrObvious> Enron: What exactly are you trying to do?
[19:08] <azexian> meaganicole sudo apt-get install limewire-nonfree
[19:08] <MrObvious> !limewire
[19:08] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install /msg ubotu java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider /msg ubotu FrostWire as an alternative.
[19:08] <Keigo-kun> meaganicole: I recommend frostwire. Search on google, it works great on Ubuntu
[19:09] <MrObvious> !frostwire
[19:09] <Enron> MrObvious I just found that our Production server has more than half of it's HD space allocated to an NTFS partition
[19:09] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[19:09] <meaganicole> ok
[19:09] <johanzon> hej /trejjs
[19:09] <MrObvious> Enron: So you want to resize it or what exactly? You could enable NTFS write support probably without too much consequence. If you are running an older Ubuntu install just install NTFS3G.
[19:09] <MrObvious> !ntfs3g
[19:10] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[19:10] <Enron> MrObvious i'm actually running debian
[19:10] <Enron> etch
[19:10] <MrObvious> Enron: Well this isn't #Debian. :p
[19:11] <MrObvious> Enron: But I'm sure Debian has NTFS support.
[19:11] <Enron> it has the same stuff but what i'm asking is basicly
[19:11] <Enron> is there problem writing to ntfs
[19:11] <meaganicole> whats LMME-1.0.zip?
[19:11] <Achoth> No
[19:11] <Enron> vs formatting it and converting it to linux partition
[19:11] <Enron> like performance issue or anything else
[19:12] <Achoth> Linux partition (ext3) is better
[19:12] <MrObvious> Enron: It's really not a problem as much as it used to be. Stability has improved, but speeds seem slower. I would format it as it seems slower anyway.
[19:12] <kale> genii: what would i add to fstab? i could not know beforehand what devicenode or partition on the new device to use
[19:12] <MrObvious> EXT3 FTW!
[19:12] <m_> hi every linux user
[19:12] <Achoth> m_: Heeey
[19:12] <MrObvious> !hi | m_
[19:12] <ubotu> m_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[19:13] <MrObvious> Enron: Why is it NTFS? Do Windows clients connect to it or is it strictly the operating system? There's not much of a need for NTFS unless you dual boot with Windows.
[19:13] <genii> kale: you find the /dev name for it when it's plugged in and use that
[19:13] <meaganicole> it won't let me install frostwire
[19:13]  * MrObvious goes to lunch. :D
[19:13] <m_> how can i get beryl??
[19:13] <meaganicole> its says frostwire not supported
[19:13] <meaganicole> can anyone help
[19:13] <Enron> MrObvious it's our webserver that is used for users to upload files and store it etc..
[19:13] <xsfr> gksudo nautrilus?
[19:13] <Enron> not sure how that partition got there
[19:13] <Enron> could be from previous use
[19:14] <herbaliser> my microphone is not working in skype how do i test and install it in ubuntu?
[19:14] <Achoth> m_: Beryl (Compiz) is already installed
[19:14] <kale> genii: yes, but i need a general solution
[19:14] <rsk> m_: beryl is old and not devloped anymore get compiz, it's included by default in latest ubuntu
[19:14] <nintendoteenager> when i try to install deluge i get this Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libboost-date-time1.34.1
[19:14] <xsfr> gksudo nautrilus?
[19:14] <m_> how can i use it?
[19:14] <rsk> m_: however you like
[19:14] <meaganicole> frostwire not working on ubuntu
[19:14] <herbaliser> my microphone is not working in skype how do i test and install it in ubuntu?
[19:14] <Achoth> m_: Right click on desktop and press "change wallpaper"
[19:14] <azexian> meaganicole you need java installed, you got that?
[19:15] <meaganicole> i don't think so
[19:15] <m_> yes and
[19:15] <Achoth> m_: Then choose the effects tab
[19:15] <Achoth> And enable it
[19:15] <meaganicole> how do i install java azexian?
[19:15] <rsk> no restrictions m_ unless that if you make codechanges you need to contribute them back cause of the GPL
[19:15] <unicum> need help
[19:15] <unicum> my laptop has this function button, when held down i can actually control the volume by pressing up or down arrow buttuns
[19:16] <unicum> or rather i could
[19:16] <unicum> now it somehow controls the line in and not the master volume anymore
[19:16] <meaganicole> how do i install java on ubuntu
[19:16] <xsfr> gksudo nautrilus?
[19:16] <tuisu> Hi everybody. I'm having the flash problem (launchpad #175255) and thinking of trying to fix it (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397).. no flash is pain in the ass
[19:16] <cyberjames> meaganicole: sudo apt-cache search java**
[19:16] <rsk> meaganicole: with synaptic is most easy
[19:17] <bbkar> meaganicole-> apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[19:17] <Achoth> meaganicole: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76702
[19:17] <J-W_> nintendoteenager: sudo apt-get install libboost-date-time1.34.1 (if I'm not mistaking)
[19:17] <tuisu> my main concern is.. if I use the solutions offered on ununtu forums (the link).. will I still get future flash updates?
[19:17] <genii> kale: The best general solution of course would be to use ext2 or ext3
[19:17] <blizzkid> hi all, I'd like to know whether I can use my tv tuner card in ubuntu, but Google doesn't really help me. What's the least I need to test the card?
[19:18] <meaganicole> sh*t
[19:18] <tuisu> or should I wait for the official fix?
[19:18] <meaganicole> won't let me do that either
[19:18] <psycose> hello, i tried to install the KDE env. from a Kubuntu live CD on a Ubuntu OS. (all gutsy) i did not succeed using apt-cdrom ...!! Some says it would work if i use an alternate ubuntu CD . Is this info reel ?
[19:19] <m_> we take it slowly please . You set ""Right click on desktop and press "change wallpaper" ok? then?
[19:19] <xsfr> gksudo nautrilus? is that right
[19:19] <benanzo> blizzkid: what's the tuner card you have?
[19:19] <czr> any preseeding experts? I'm trying to get ubuntu-server to install but language-pack-en and openoffice is pulled in anyway (and some X libs)
[19:19] <Achoth> m_: If you are not reading what I'm writing, there is no point
[19:19] <Achoth> I already told you
[19:19] <benanzo> czr: are you installing from the disc?
[19:19] <czr> benanzo, netboot over pxe
[19:19] <Achoth> m_: Just click the effects tab and enable it
[19:20] <nintendoteenager> J-W i typed that into terminal
[19:20] <xsfr> gksudo nautrilus? is that right?
[19:20] <Achoth> m_: It's not very hard to figure out
[19:20] <meaganicole> how do i hack into somes computer
[19:20] <benanzo> is it pulling in gnome as well?
[19:20] <meaganicole> by using ip address
[19:20] <azexian> meaganicole :p
[19:20] <benanzo> meaganicole: lol
[19:20] <czr> benanzo, let me check
[19:20] <meaganicole> yes azexian and benzanzo
[19:20] <xsfr> gksudo nautrilus? is that right?
[19:20] <benanzo> meaganicole: check google
[19:20] <benanzo> gksudo nautilus
[19:21] <czr> benanzo, no. only language-packs for it
[19:21] <meaganicole> check google ok
[19:21] <xsfr> ta
[19:21] <J-W_> nintendoteenager: ok then install deluge again, if I'm not mistaking you wil get another error (missing package) and after that it will work :)
[19:22] <benanzo> I'm not sure why it would pull OO and X without a desktop environment
[19:22] <m_> i do it but the answer is like this (Desktop effects could not be enabled)
[19:22] <czr> benanzo, neither am I :-)
[19:22] <Vermux> azexian: moment of truth
[19:22]  * MrObvious is back and ready to support people again
[19:22] <MrObvious> :D
[19:22] <rsk> m_ maybe you have an unsupported card
[19:22] <azexian> vermux lol, ok
[19:22] <benanzo> which server version?
[19:22] <benanzo> gutsy?
[19:22] <danonura> i'm new to linux and just typed netstat in a terminal. it looks like tons of connections but i have only 2 browsers connected
[19:22] <Achoth> m_: Do you get any specific error?
[19:22] <nintendoteenager> J-W its giving me the same error i already tried installing it 3 times
[19:22] <m_> i have intel
[19:23] <Achoth> m_: Yes?
[19:23] <czr> benanzo, yup.
[19:23] <m_> no no
[19:23] <czr> benanzo, although my preseed is a mishmash of various sources/experimentation
[19:23] <benanzo> danonura: netstat will show connections to local sockets used for interprocess communication
[19:23] <danonura> oh ok
[19:23] <Vermux> azexian: win is up
[19:23] <czr> benanzo, but I'm pretty sure I'm not pulling desktop/oo on purpose, nor X
[19:23] <MrObvious> danonura: If you want you can put your netstat output to a pastebin and PM me the link and I'll help you see what's happening.
[19:23] <MrObvious> !pastebin | danonura
[19:23] <ubotu> danonura: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:23] <azexian> vermux so it was the psu you thinks?
[19:24] <danonura>  MrObvious:cool thanks
[19:24] <bbkar> running virtual box, for every guest OS I have to create a virtual disk?
[19:24] <SeanTater> Achoth: most of those are connections to yourself (they never leave your computer). The top few connections are usually the most important --
[19:24] <Vermux> azexian: sec, I'l reboot and check the bios
[19:24] <m_> maybe i do fail?
[19:24] <azexian> vermux kk
[19:24] <SeanTater> Achoth: oops -- not you..
[19:24] <benanzo> czr: try 'aptitude why openoffice.org' to see why it's getting pulled in
[19:24] <krept> my boot is hanging on loading manual drivers...
[19:24] <psycose> hello, i tried to install the KDE env. from a Kubuntu live CD on a Ubuntu OS. (all gutsy) i did not succeed using apt-cdrom ...!! Some says it would work if i use an alternate ubuntu CD . Is this info accurate ? thanks
[19:25] <czr> benanzo, language-support-en depends openoffice.org-hyphenation
[19:25] <Achoth> m_: Eh?
[19:25] <|Quest|> if a distro gives a repository. is it 100% safe to use that repository?
[19:25] <Achoth> m_: Tell me what error you get
[19:25] <Vermux> azexian: the power fan speed is 1259 rpm
[19:25] <bbkar> krept curious, you added an entry on grub for the device driver? what is the option?
[19:25] <danonura>  MrObvious:i am at the pastebin link and where it says syntax, what should i put there
[19:25] <bullgard4> "$ gnomevfs-ls smb://md97600/freigegebenMD; ...config (Regular, application/octet-stream) size 11574 mode 0644." Why does Nautilus respond: "Error when copying. »config« could not be moved, because you have not the required access rights to read the object. OK"?
[19:25] <MrObvious> psycose: Just enable online resources using apt-get and forget about the CD-ROM.
[19:25] <J-W_> nintendoteenager: when I installed deluge I first had to manually install liboost-date-time1.34.1, liboost-filesystem1.34.1 and liboost-thread1.34.1.. _after_ i installed those I was able to install deluge
[19:26] <krept> error loading /lib/firmware/emu/hana.fw for device /class/firmware/0000:02:01.0 with driver emu10k1_audigy
[19:26] <MrObvious> danonura: Just copy the terminal output using copy/paste of netstat to the pastebin and submit it and PM me the resulting URL.
[19:26] <Vermux> azexian: I think it is less than earlier?
[19:26] <AngryElf> what are the chances that I'll be able to get the visual effects working on my nvidia dual-head (that works correctly now)
[19:26] <azexian> vermux I think so yes
[19:26] <azexian> vermux teps?
[19:26] <danonura> ok
[19:26] <azexian> vermux temps*
[19:26] <m_> i do not understand kan you tell me please how can i get beryl?
[19:27] <rafaelscj> hello all
[19:27] <Vermux> azexian: cpu 39.5
[19:27] <czr> benanzo, ah, I think I need to stop language packs explicitly (pkgsel/install-language-support boolean false)
[19:27] <Achoth> m_: Are you completely ignoring my help?
[19:27] <Vermux> azexian: mb 29
[19:27] <MrObvious> !beryl | m_
[19:27] <Vermux> azexian: the 5 v is higher than earlier
[19:27] <ubotu> m_: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[19:28] <meaganicole> anyone know anything about psps
[19:28] <bbeattie> Anytime I try to start a gnome application it segfaults on a gettimeofday.  Is there a known issue on this?
[19:28] <rafaelscj> how do I to get working my external monitor on my laptop?
[19:28] <azexian> vermux sounds fine, have you still got kubuntu installed? can you try booting?
[19:28] <bardyr> rafaelscj, gfx card?
[19:28] <benanzo> Ah yes, that would fix it.  I'm still wondering why OO doesn't depend on a window manager though
[19:28] <meaganicole> does anyone know anything about psps
[19:28] <azexian> vermux don't worry too much about the 5v reading
[19:28] <bullgard4> Samba share copy fails: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/31278 --  Why?
[19:28] <Vermux> azexian: unfortuntly I had to delete the kubuntu partition because I couldnt boot- it gave me grup error
[19:28] <krept> not getting anywhere after *Loading manual drivers...
[19:28] <white_eagle> !compiz
[19:28] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[19:29] <rafaelscj> bardyr, ?!, its intel GMA
[19:29] <benanzo> Oh wait, it was just the component of OO that provides lang pack support
[19:29] <azexian> vermux  np, could you try the live disk?
[19:29] <|Quest|> if a distro gives a repository. is it 100% safe to use that repository?
[19:29] <benanzo> that makes sense
[19:29] <m_>  right klick on the disk then?
[19:29] <czr> benanzo, it's weird. cause oo pulls a lot of stuff in. anyhow, I'm doing another install
[19:29] <meaganicole> i can't get the psp internet to work
[19:29] <nintendoteenager> J-W when i try to run those commands i get this E: Couldn't find package liboost-filesystem1.34.1
[19:29] <MrMozart> I have 4GB memory in my computer, but ubuntu system monitor only says 3.2GB. Where is the rest? do i need to activate it somehow?
[19:29] <Vermux> azexian: yes
[19:29] <czr> benanzo, yeah, but that component pulled most of OO in as well (and a number of x11 libs and freetype because of x11, etc, etc :-)
[19:29] <bullgard4> |Quest|: Yes.
[19:29] <meaganicole> gtg
[19:29] <MrObvious> nintendoteenager: Do you mean the portable Playstation device?
[19:29] <meaganicole> yes
[19:30] <meaganicole> mrobvious:yes
[19:30] <xplozion> Hi, i just tried ntlmaps in order to get around my work network proxy server, the cfg file was configured correctly but still nothing was working
[19:30] <benanzo> does it try to grab any GTK libs?
[19:30] <nintendoteenager> no im trying to install deluge
[19:30] <MrObvious> nintendoteenager: Whoops wrong person.
[19:30] <czr> benanzo, any idea on how to use the partman-auto to automatically use all of the disk, but use noatime on the / disk? (I've got the other bits working, but not the noatime)
[19:30] <|Quest|> bullgard1 why so. is every distro safe. and its repos?
[19:30] <J-W_> nintendoteenager: oh sorry its with 2 b's: libboost, that goes for all 3 packages
[19:30] <rafaelscj> bardyr, any idea?
[19:30] <Vermux> azexian: so u dont think I should mess with the bios flash now?
[19:30] <xplozion> and the other problem i have i cant make Evolution connect to the Exchange server :(
[19:30] <MrObvious> meaganicole: You caught it lol. Well this isn't the support channel for it or anything. Sorry.
[19:30] <meaganicole> bye guys
[19:31] <meaganicole> ok
[19:31] <meaganicole> bye
[19:31] <Boglizk> Firestarter dies on me with "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[19:31] <brobostigon> vermux: its very dangerous
[19:31] <bardyr> rafaelscj, i guess you can use display-gtk but it broke X on every laptop i have tried, im used to nvidia-settings :/
[19:31] <danonura> MrObvious:i'm new to irssi and had to find out how to send pm. did it work?
[19:31] <Vermux> azexian: vy the way, Ive noticed that the option to go to stand by mode in win is grayed out
[19:31] <benanzo> czr: the only way I can think is remount with noatime after installing
[19:31] <danonura> i don't care if you look at it right now just wondering if pm went through
[19:32] <czr> benanzo, but manually partitioning allows one to select the noatime flag..
[19:32] <azexian> vermux: I'm not quite sure why that would be, it might be your mobo doesn't support it though
[19:32] <MrObvious> danonura: Got it!
[19:32] <bullgard1> |Quest|: Yes, every major distribution is save and in particular the Debian and Ubuntu repositories are very safe.
[19:32] <danonura> cool
[19:32] <danonura> thanks
[19:32] <czr> benanzo, but I guess that'd undo all the automatic magic of "use one partition for everything". bleh ;-)
[19:32]  * czr wants a working kickstart for ubuntu
[19:32] <benanzo> right
[19:32] <MrObvious> danonura: Ok. Looks normal to me. Do you have firefox running?
[19:32] <Vermux> azexian: maybe I forgot to connect a cable somewhere?
[19:32] <danonura> MrObvious:yes
[19:32] <xplozion> is there another way to go around M$ isa server? besides ntlmaps
[19:32] <Vermux> azexian: ^
[19:32] <danonura> MrObvious:2 instances
[19:33] <czr> benanzo, funny thing now is that installing the kernel takes about half of the total time of the whole install (building the initramfs)
[19:33] <danonura> MrObvious:thanks
[19:33] <MrObvious> danonura: Use tabs instead. CTRL+T opens a tab, CTRL+W closes it. It's much more useful..
[19:33] <filthpig> !mp3
[19:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:33] <czr> benanzo, but no more language packs. \o/
[19:33] <azexian> vermux possibly...
[19:33] <czr> or hmm. maybe I spoke too soon.
[19:33] <azexian> vermux I wouldn't worry about that now though
[19:33] <danonura> MrObvious:you mean in firefox?
[19:33] <filthpig> !ogg
[19:33] <Vermux> azexian: ok I boot with the live disk. I c kubuntu menu. I think I'll go with the regular install meanning: start or Install kubuntu
[19:33] <bardyr> xplozion, wine the windows client :D
[19:34] <saxin> bardyr: does that actually work? :P
[19:34] <czr> benanzo, have you tried preseeding hardy yet?
[19:34] <bardyr> saxin, probably not :D
[19:34] <saxin> hehe
[19:34] <saxin> damn :/
[19:34] <saxin> I have problems with ISA-server too
[19:34] <benanzo> No not Hardy
[19:34] <bardyr> saxin, but there should be some ISA client/hax for linux
[19:34] <czr> benanzo, maybe I'll take a stab at it later
[19:34] <Vermux> azexian: or to go without the splash thing like yesterday?
[19:34] <saxin> bardyr: where can I get some more information?
[19:34] <czr> although pulling the hardy repo over 2Mbit link is just too painful
[19:35] <benanzo> it's not really useful for me yet, too much debug code still
[19:35] <saxin> bardyr: I want it as easy as I can get it, please. :-P
[19:35] <xplozion> bardyr, havent try that, but i rather a linux way.
[19:35] <herbaliser> how can i test my microphone in ubuntu?
[19:35] <herbaliser> in skype it's not working
[19:35] <bardyr> saxin, google is probably the best bet
[19:35] <czr> benanzo, I've installed the server couple of times. some small snags, but works quite well (suprisingly so). desktop I hear is much more borken
[19:35] <azexian> vermux no need, that was only because it was crashing
[19:35] <MrObvious> danonura: Also, go to addons.mozilla.org and install the addons Adblock Plus, WOT, No-Script, and Greasemonkey to improve browsing security. Adblock Plus blocks any advertisements as I see you have an open connection to an ad server which is a privacy issue. WOT helps you identify unsafe sites. Greasemonkey disables unfriendly scripts and Noscript is designed for disabling Javascript. You'll have to allow individual sites with it and i
[19:35] <MrObvious> t might disable some features until you enable the specific site but it helps you out. Also yes use tabs in Firefox. It's much better and is one of the greatest browsing features around. I know a few more Firefox addons and tricks but we can take it to PM.
[19:36] <saxin> bardyr: I have tried following some "how-to", but I fail everytime :-/
[19:36] <azexian> vermux just the regular
[19:36] <cancerimex> Hi, Im trying to setup a webserver, Im just wondering if there is anything I can read about setting up the correct group information for users when uploading files.
[19:36] <saxin> bardyr: you know if ISA-problems have been worked on @ hardy?
[19:36] <Vermux> azexian: ok. There is a bug in the graphics when Kubuntu is uploads
[19:36] <danonura> MrObvious:i got adblock plus last night lol
[19:36] <bardyr> saxin, i guess you can use a virtual windows to connect to it and then reroute it trough ssh but its kinda nasty
[19:36] <benanzo> Isn't there a new web based administration panel for Hardy server?
[19:36] <benanzo> I thought I read that a few weeks ago
[19:36] <azexian> vermux you mean it goes out of sync?
[19:36] <danonura> MrObvious:but not the others you just mentioned
[19:36] <saxin> bardyr: heh, i believe you :-P
[19:36] <czr> benanzo, hmm. maybe.
[19:36] <MrObvious> danonura: Yeah those other extensions will help.
[19:37] <filthpig> can somebody help me out with the looking glass wm?
[19:37] <czr> benanzo, haven't seen it (it didn't jump at me)
[19:37] <danonura> MrObvious:nice, thanks
[19:37] <MrObvious> !anybody | czr
[19:37] <ubotu> czr: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:37] <Vermux> azexian: no, there is double line( the line that shows the progress
[19:37] <goodhabit> Hello. I'm on gutsy. How to set-up QT aplications look? Like colors, etc.
[19:37] <MrObvious> danonura: YW. I've got PM open if you want a few more tricks as this is starting to get off topic.
[19:37]  * czr MrObvious what does that relate to?
[19:37] <Vermux> azexian: ok, I got to go now, I will continue shortly
[19:37] <azexian> vermux oh yeah... that happens sometimes, just ignore it
[19:37] <czr> bleh. wanted to /msg :-)
[19:37] <white_eagle> !bliss
[19:37] <bardyr> saxin, samba should be able to handle ISA
[19:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bliss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:38] <azexian> vermux ok
[19:38] <Vermux> azexian: are u staying here?
[19:38] <silvergryphon> Mind if I toss in a question about dual-booting?   Grub is giving me fits (or maybe Windows...) with dual booting Windows and Ubuntu, each on their own separate drives
[19:38] <saxin> bardyr: in 8.04?
[19:38] <MrObvious> czr: Ask your real question.
[19:38] <bardyr> saxin, its probably hell to configure but you only need to do it once
[19:38] <filthpig> nice
[19:38] <benanzo> eBox
[19:38] <bardyr> saxin, gutsy should work too
[19:38] <czr> MrObvious, I have no question
[19:38] <benanzo> that's what it is
[19:38] <herbaliser> how can i test my microphone in ubuntu?
[19:38] <benanzo> http://ebox-platform.com/
[19:38] <filthpig> somebody else gets the blame for my "crime"
[19:38] <bullgard4> Samba share copy fails: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/31278 --  Why?
[19:38] <benanzo> I'm not sure if it's enabled yet though
[19:39] <MrObvious> silvergryphon: Just ask it.
[19:39] <saxin> bardyr: how can I fix that? if you have any url for me, please share.
[19:39] <czr> benanzo, works now, thanks for the hints/confirmation
[19:39] <azexian> vermux yes, soz, many convo's :P
[19:39] <MrObvious> czr: Whoops wrong person sorry.
[19:39] <MrObvious> !anyone | filthpig
[19:39] <ubotu> filthpig: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:39] <azexian> vermux I will be here for a bit :)
[19:39] <filthpig> lol
[19:39] <czr> MrObvious, np :-).
[19:40] <bardyr> saxin, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/isa-client-for-linux-265924/ its kinda thin but if it gets your there
[19:40] <joh> So I just did a dist-upgrade, and my computer froze during the upgrade. Now GRUB won't load and fails with "Error 17". Help?
[19:40] <filthpig> I know, I know, I know.. But I don't have a much more specific question than that atm
[19:40] <unagi> whenever i try to use ffmpeg with  ffmpeg -i FlashNo3F5u.flv -ab 56 -ar 22050 -b 500 -s 320x240 game1.mpg, i get the output FlashNo3F5u.flv: I/O error occured Usually that means that input file is truncated and/or corrupted.........but the flv plays fine so its not corrupted, any idea whats going on?
[19:40] <hey_joe> irc.freenode.net
[19:41] <silvergryphon> I did.  How do I set it up to dual boot on separate drives?   It's not seeing my Windows installation on the Grub booting menu.lst.  I've edited it, but still no boot.  All I get is "Starting up.....", and no activitiy.
[19:41] <|Quest|> which distro has the biggest collection of repos?
[19:41] <m_> Are you completely ignoring my help  ? no no no no i really want your help . But the problem is the i can't understand so much english believe me .
[19:41] <azexian> |Quest| debian so in some ways ubuntu
[19:41] <MrObvious> joh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[19:41] <MrObvious> silvergryphon: Sorry didn't see it.
[19:41] <|Quest|> hhmm!
[19:42] <joh> MrObvious: Thanks
[19:42] <azexian> :p
[19:42] <MrObvious> !grub
[19:42] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:42] <filthpig> !flash
[19:42] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:42] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[19:42] <filthpig> when is the official flash fix due?
[19:42] <azexian> please, could you just send those messages direct, like this /msg ubotu !command
[19:42] <|Quest|> azexian you are an ubuntu fan. how long have you been using linux? may i ask
[19:42] <MrObvious> silvergryphon: Read the link ubotu posted above about Grub.
[19:42] <bardyr> how come flash is broken in gutsy but not hardy?, or is it just a outdated message?
[19:42] <azexian> |Quest| 5 years now :)
[19:43] <azexian> |quest| but I have used many others
[19:43] <MrObvious> azexian: It was for a user. :)
[19:43] <|Quest|> azexian wow..
[19:43] <azexian> lol
[19:43] <|Quest|> azexian like?
[19:43] <pulicoti> hello there, can someone help me about issues i am getting whenever i try to click on a proggie url? for example i have got the message of a new mail on hotmail and clicking on it i receive an error sayin mozilla$ url,Check preferences
[19:43] <azexian> |quest| fedora, mandriva, suse, mandrake, fedora, lots :P
[19:44] <silvergryphon> *reading*  *noobie head spins*
[19:44] <Exteris> my audio doesnt work since install. This is the lspci output
[19:44] <Exteris> 01:05.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series Audio Controller
[19:44] <Exteris>         Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series Audio Controller
[19:44] <Exteris>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10
[19:44] <Exteris>         Memory at fe9e8000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[19:44] <Exteris>         Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
[19:44] <FloodBot3> Exteris: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <filthpig> lately I've noticed several people getting annoyed by people asking the bot stuff. Why not program the bot to reply with a private msg instead of in the channel?
[19:44] <|Quest|> azexian pvt?
[19:45] <filthpig> seems to me to be a quicker, easier and more user-friendly approach than to yell at everybody who uses a !command in the channel
[19:45] <joh> MrObvious: Right, that solution didn't work at all. All my HDs are detected and already on Auto.
[19:45] <azexian> |quest| I went onto the channel, pvt chat if you would prefer though :)
[19:45] <pulicoti> where i can check preferences into mozilla?
[19:45] <MrObvious> filthpig: Some users aren't registered on freenode and I don't think they can use PMs.
[19:46] <|Quest|> azexian when did you went there
[19:46] <filthpig> still you request them to msg ubotu?
[19:46] <czr> hmm. any hints where to find the preseed files used on the various "versions" of ubuntu cds? (without downloading the ISOs).
[19:46] <filthpig> where's the logic?
[19:46] <azexian> |quest| I'm in there now
[19:46] <MrObvious> filthpig: IIRC an unregistered user in here asking a question wouldn't get it.
[19:47] <cleaton> is there anyway i can choose where the > command should write the text to a file?
[19:47] <herbaliser> microphone not working how can i resolve this?
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> cleaton: Sure > ~/Desktop/test-it.txt
[19:48] <dgjones> MrObvious, an unregistered user can't send pm's, but should be able to receive them from a registered user, so pm's from ubotu should get through to everyone
[19:48] <MrObvious> dgjones: Noted.
[19:48] <BetaTest> How do i do a system upgrade using apt-get?
[19:48] <cleaton> Jack_Sparrow, i mean where inside the text file
[19:48] <filthpig> but I assume most users -are- registered and will get it. registering is free and takes approx 1 minute to complete, and one could always do like !question | #channel or something to that effect
[19:48] <herbaliser> Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[19:48] <Jack_Sparrow> cleaton: as in >> append
[19:48] <herbaliser> when testing microphone
[19:49] <MrObvious> BetaTest: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I believe. The GUI should do it easier though (I think it's synaptic).
[19:49] <cleaton> >> append ?
[19:49] <silvergryphon> I'm afraid these links are speaking a much more advanced level of Geekese than I understand.
[19:49] <bod_> is there any way of not having to do /msg NickServ IDENTIFY *********** evertime i use iirc?
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> cleaton: This is not really the place for that...  Perhaps, #Ubuntu-offtopic
[19:49] <filthpig> bod_, add it to autoperform when you sign on
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Many irc clients allow you to auto-identify
[19:49] <bod_> in xchat
[19:50] <MrObvious> bod_: In the server listing (XChat -> Network List), look under server password or nickserver password under Freenode.
[19:50] <czr> could someone put the files in the ./preseed/ directory of gutsy installation CD somewhere? (pastebin is fine)
[19:51] <newusergreen> i have a server to be and im thinking of using ubuntu any tips and i have questions also
[19:51] <silvergryphon> Is there someone here with a more advanced level of experience with repairing or configuring Grub to boot Windows XP Professional that resides on a seperate drive?   Patience required, please.
[19:51] <m_> hello ooooooooooooooooooooo beryl please how to install it or to find it on linux i use ubuntu
[19:51] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, how would i do this in Xchat?
[19:51] <Moduliz0r> !webmin
[19:51] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[19:51] <MrObvious> silvergryphon: Try reposting your question. I really don't know how.
[19:51] <Moduliz0r> !ebox
[19:51] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[19:51] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: I dont use xchat.. but they have a room here on freenode
[19:51] <bod_> silvergryphon, i dont know much about grub but i can install xp on a seperate HD
[19:51] <filthpig>  can I have both Sun's Looking Glass and Compiz-Fusion installed at the same system without getting trouble with xorg.conf or something else?
[19:51] <MrObvious> !pm > Moduliz0r (Read the private message from ubotu).
[19:51] <rsk> m_: we already went trough this _DOT NOT USE BERYL_ it's old. use compiz.
[19:51] <czr> benanzo, ah, ebox is supposed to be the web frontend for configuration that you mentioned
[19:51] <unagi> whenever i try to use ffmpeg with  ffmpeg -i FlashNo3F5u.flv -ab 56 -ar 22050 -b 500 -s 320x240 game1.mpg, i get the output FlashNo3F5u.flv: I/O error occured Usually that means that input file is truncated and/or corrupted.........but the flv plays fine so its not corrupted, any idea whats going on?
[19:51] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, channel name?
[19:52] <newusergreen> tips on making a linux server
[19:52] <silvergryphon> I have Windows XP installed on a SATA drive.  Ubuntu is installed on a PATA drive.   I cannot boot Windows, now - Grub is handling the dual-booting.   I need to know how to configure Grub to give the boot option for Windows in the menu.lst file.
[19:52] <rsk> newusergreen: install ubuntu server
[19:52] <m_> how to find compiz please
[19:52] <rsk> and voila
[19:52] <newusergreen> can ubuntu server have a UI?
[19:52] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: /j #xchat   would be my guess
[19:52] <bod_> silvergryphon, rite over my head m8 sorry
[19:52] <rsk> m_: on the desktop right click
[19:52] <rsk> newusergreen: if you want it too
[19:52] <pulicoti> an someone help me about issues i am getting whenever i try to click on a proggie url? for example i have got the message of a new mail on amsn and clicking on it i receive an error sayin  cant execute the programmozilla$ url,Check preferences
[19:52] <rsk> m_: you already know where
[19:52] <newusergreen> is there some web site i can go to
[19:52] <moad> how can i configure my webcam ?
[19:52] <m_> ok let me try
[19:52] <Moduliz0r> I just needed to find out what the alternative to Webmin was,I'm * sorry*
[19:52] <Jack_Sparrow> m_: /j #Comiz
[19:52] <good_dana> !ubotu ebox newusergreen
[19:53] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, cheers dude
[19:53] <joh> What kind of installation is on the server edition? Graphical or text-based?
[19:53] <newusergreen> to find out how?
[19:53] <rsk> m_: why dod you ask the same questions twice?
[19:53] <Jack_Sparrow> m_: /j #Comipiz   sorry
[19:53] <newusergreen> i want a graphical
[19:53] <unagi> =)
[19:53] <pulicoti> where i am supposed to check those preferences
[19:53] <czr> joh, text by default.
[19:53] <joh> czr: Great, thanks
[19:53] <good_dana> newusergreen: look at ebox
[19:53] <bod_> newusergreen, ubuntu server edition
[19:53] <newusergreen> ebox? is it ubuntu?
[19:53] <good_dana> !ubotu ebox
[19:53] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[19:53] <czr> joh, you can install the desktops later on if you so wish.
[19:53] <reeeh2000> joh: its text based for security
[19:53] <benanzo> yeah ebox
[19:54] <newusergreen> ok thanks ill look into it
[19:54] <MrObvious> good_dana: Type next time !factoid > username and it'll send it in an PM to the user. :)
[19:54] <benanzo> I just found the article I read it in
[19:54] <m_> please do not be angry i can't understand english (just a little)
[19:54] <good_dana> MrObvious: thanks i was trying to do that, i just forgot how hahaha
[19:54] <eid> how can i add the DHCP server at boot time ?
[19:54] <MrObvious> good_dana: And let them know about reading the PM.
[19:54] <kbrooks> reeeh2000, not for security
[19:54] <MrObvious> m_: Which language?
[19:54] <czr> m_, maybe you should try #ubuntu-se ?
[19:54] <m_> assyrian
[19:54] <kbrooks> reeeh2000, text mode installers can be insecure you know.
[19:54] <joh> czr: I just need a LiveCD without X to fix my broken system...
[19:54] <czr> oh, heh. nm.
[19:55] <czr> joh, ah. but the server version is not a livecd.
[19:55] <good_dana> joh: you can boot into recovery mode using the ubuntu server disk
[19:55] <reeeh2000> kbrooks: i know, but its a good idea since gui are more accesable, you have to know what your doing with a text based system
[19:55] <joh> czr: Oh...
[19:55] <joh> good_dana: The ubuntu server CD that is?
[19:55] <joh> good_dana: Problem is, GRUB won't load at all.
[19:55] <MrObvious> m_: Wow that's crazy. Where do you live that you use that language?
[19:55] <kbrooks> reeeh2000, im sorry ...
[19:55] <czr> ah, maybe good_dana is right. I normally use knoppix in runlevel 2 for that stuff (over pxe)
[19:56] <bassinboyw1> is there anyway to build a ubuntu system optimizes for multiple systems (i installed ubuntu on a USB drive and want to swap it between different computers).... i need to to automatically configure devices on boot
[19:56] <reeeh2000> kbrooks: no prob
[19:56] <newusergreen> how difficult is it to learn the ubuntu terminal? to work on the server
[19:56] <newusergreen> well
[19:56] <kbrooks> reeeh2000, no, "im sorry" as i don't understand
[19:56] <newusergreen> how hard is it to use text based os
[19:56] <kbrooks> newusergreen, not THAT hard
[19:56] <joh> czr: I'll try knoppix aswell then if ubuntu doesn't work.
[19:56] <czr> newusergreen, not very if you're willing to spend time learning/trying things out
[19:56] <kbrooks> newusergreen, may i please educate you?
[19:57] <newusergreen> so lets say i want to use my old ntfs drives?
[19:57] <CrazyWulf> I've been having a strange problem lately. Basically anytime I transfer/download large files my mouse will start to get extremely laggy. I can't pinpoint when it happens exactly, I'm guessing after 200mb or so. Any ideas please? The only way to get it back to normal is to restart my entire system :(
[19:57] <bardyr> newusergreen, when you learn the basics its the easiest thing in the world and the best thing in the world
[19:57] <kbrooks> newusergreen, uh, use the "ntfs-3g" package
[19:57] <kbrooks> newusergreen, and dfo something like this at the terminal to use it with a ntfs partition:
[19:57] <idefix> where in the special characters list of the ubuntu word processor can I find a small sine wave symbol?
[19:58] <m_> no no i have no assyrian in language . but my language is assyrian
[19:58] <newusergreen> all i need is a file server
[19:58] <idefix> I searched a lot but there's soo many
[19:58] <Niklas_E> is there any way to reconfigure the network (forexample dpkg-reconfigure network)?
[19:58] <m_> in ubuntu i use swedish
[19:58] <kbrooks> newusergreen, sudo mount /dev/harddrive /mount/point/here
[19:58] <bod_> m_, do you have a problem or are you here for a chat?
[19:58] <idefix> what's the room for the ubuntu word processor? is there one?
[19:58] <kbrooks> idefix, whats your questionm.
[19:58] <rsk> idefix: there is not such a thing
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> idefix: Open Office ?
[19:59] <kbrooks> rsk, there is
[19:59] <blizzkid> lo all. When I run scantv, I get "v4l: open /dev/video0: No such file or directory" Any ideas on how to solve this?
[19:59] <kbrooks> idefix, #openoffice.org, but please ask here first
[19:59] <rsk> kbrooks: where?
[19:59] <newusergreen> ok so all i need for a file server is, ubuntu server, and my old ntfs drives
[19:59] <MrObvious> bod_: I asked him where he was that he spoke Assyrian. Relax. ;)
[19:59] <m_> i really want help i am first time in linux ubuntu
[19:59] <MrObvious> !sw
[19:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:59] <rsk> ops.
[19:59] <rsk> wrong nick
[19:59] <idefix> ok, I need a special character: a small sine wave symbol
[19:59] <kbrooks> newusergreen, do you want me to show you around
[19:59] <newusergreen> plz'
[19:59] <gavin__> Can I install WMA support?
[19:59] <bod_> MrObvious, no,.,. i was being polite,.,. i just wondered if he had a problem,.,.lol,.,.
[19:59] <fismoll8> hey guys--trying to connect to my ubuntu box from windows--was successful using NX, but I notice that I'm not able to log into the desired user account--instead I have been logged in as an ssh user
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !wma
[19:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:59] <Boglizk> Firestarter is crashing _all_ the time, anyone?
[19:59] <rsk> gavin__: yes use mplayer
[20:00] <gavin__> Thanks.
[20:00] <eid> how can i add the DHCP server at boot time ?
[20:00] <kbrooks> newusergreen, well, i'll need SSH access to _your desktop_ computer
[20:00] <bod_> m_, what would you like help with?
[20:00] <gavin__> is that the only way to do it?
[20:00] <rsk> gavin__: probably not
[20:00] <idefix> kbrooks? the question is too specific huh?
[20:00] <gavin__> I can't add support for amarok or Rhythmbox.
[20:00] <MrObvious> bod_: He's trying to get Compiz installed but isn't good in English and Swedish/Assyrian support is nonexistant obviously.
[20:00] <chaosrl> when i boot gutsy under the old kernal, 2.6.20-16, (to try to get suspend/hibernate), my system ends up extremely sluggish (dragging windows around desktop is laggy, the boxes that show up when opening a program is laggy, etc). is this normal?
[20:00] <gavin__> ?
[20:00] <newusergreen> i have ubuntu 7.04 can u show me how to install my ntfs drive?>
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Boglizk: I have never seen it crash...  Have you recenty installed things from outside official repos or upgrades?
[20:00] <kbrooks> idefix, you have not asked a question
[20:00] <MrObvious> bod_: I'd do it but I'm helping another user install java in PM.
[20:00] <fismoll8> do you guys know how to set things up via NX so that when you remote connect to your ubuntu box, you have access to all files and can throw around commands such as apt-get
[20:00] <idefix> kbrooks ok, I need a special character: a small sine wave symbol
[20:01] <bod_> MrObvious, looks like i havent been reading the chats,.,.lol,.,.ok cheers dude
[20:01] <ompaul> !ntfs | newusergreen (the collective wisdom has built these web pages)
[20:01] <ubotu> newusergreen (the collective wisdom has built these web pages): To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[20:01] <bardyr> MrObvious, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:01] <bardyr> :)
[20:01] <Boglizk> Jack_Sparrow: Uhm.. not really only some command line stuffs
[20:01] <MrObvious> bardyr: I always did it through the Desktop Effects manager. lol
[20:01] <MrObvious> bardyr: Thanks though.
[20:01] <bod_> MrObvious, he said he's using a sweedish version? does that mean if we give him terminal commands to use, they wont work?
[20:02] <MrObvious> bod_: I think it will.
[20:02] <bod_> MrObvious, coolio
[20:02] <basti> newusergreen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[20:02] <MrObvious> m_:  Try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras in a terminal. Hopefully there is no need to translate the command.
[20:02] <m_>  with 3 d beryl but some one say it is not beryl it is comipiz and i try to click right on disk but i can't se it!!!!
[20:02] <kale> what is the latest ubunty release?
[20:02] <newusergreen> ok thx
[20:02] <Boglizk> Jack_Sparrow: I found the bugreport. I'll be looking in to it.
[20:03] <unicum> anyone now which size exactly an avatar may be to be used with xmpp?
[20:03] <sheen> Hello all. I've bought a new graphic card (nvidia 8800 GTS 512) instead of my ATI X800. I've uninstall ATI proprietary drivers, then I've put the 8800 into my computer. Now I'm on 640x480, ubuntu detect no proprietary drivers, envy detect an unknow card, I've isntall "nvidia xgl new" paquet and launch sudo nvidia-xconfig enable and restart X. There is no change, in my xorg.conf there is my ATI yet. Please help me I don't know what I ca
[20:03] <sheen> n do.
[20:03] <MrObvious> !gutsy > kale (Read the PM sent by ubotu.)
[20:03] <DFlame> kale, the latest stable release is 7.10, Gutsy Gibbon
[20:03] <shal3r> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree == md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz. Any ideas?
[20:03] <idefix> kbrooks!!!
[20:03] <DFlame> Hardy is still in alpha the last i checked
[20:03] <unicum> i tried with 64x64 now and it still said it was too big
[20:03] <MrObvious> !flash > shal3r (Read the PM from ubotu.)
[20:03] <kbrooks> !attitude |idefix
[20:03] <ubotu> idefix: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:03] <kale> DFlame: thanks, i have the latest then ...
[20:03] <MrObvious> !nvidia > sheen (Read the PM from ubotu.)
[20:03] <bascule> sheen: sudo modprobe nvidia then restart X
[20:03] <chaosrl> !fglrx
[20:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:04] <virtual> Hello
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> chaosrl: What video card are you working with..
[20:04] <temp_> hello, can anyone help me with a problem I have with a fresh install and detecting an old user?
[20:04] <CrazyWulf> I've been having a strange problem lately. Basically anytime I transfer/download large files my mouse will start to get extremely laggy. I can't pinpoint when it happens exactly, I'm guessing after 200mb or so. Any ideas please? The only way to get it back to normal is to restart my entire system :(
[20:04] <_LoneCrow> I just installed ubuntu server 6.06 and now it's finished, the login comes up, but no keyboards will work no matter what!  I picked the default keyboard layout and actually did the install..
[20:04] <chaosrl> Jack_Sparrow: ati mobility radeon x1400
[20:04] <bod_> shal3r, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[20:05] <sheen> MrObvious, I've aleady checked the wiki thanks.
[20:05] <bullgard4> "$ gnomevfs-ls smb://md97600/freigegebenMD; ...config (Regular, application/octet-stream) size 11574 mode 0644." Why does Nautilus respond: "Error when copying. »config« could not be moved, because you have not the required access rights to read the object. OK"?
[20:05] <shal3r> bod_, thanks
[20:05] <sheen> bascule, thanks I try
[20:05] <fismoll8> anyone know how to log into a different user on an ubuntu box when you are connected to it remotely
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> chaosrl: Any particular problem?
[20:05] <shal3r> MrObvious, thanks
[20:05] <MrObvious> shal3r: YW.
[20:05] <bod_> shal3r, its the package in blue writing that you want
[20:05] <bullgard4> Samba share copy fails: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/31278 --  Why?
[20:05] <MrObvious> sheen: Ok maybe someone will have an idea on what to do exactly.
[20:05] <chaosrl> Jack_Sparrow: no, everything works fine, just no suspend, hibernate. i've been semi-searching for a way to get suspend and sacrifice compiz, but nothing's worked
[20:06] <chaosrl> i tried blacklisting fglrx, made my system slowwwww
[20:06] <Jack_Sparrow> chaosrl: Gimme a sec..
[20:06] <sheen> bascule, I restart
[20:06] <krept> i just installed alsa and now my system hangs after the error firmware_helper[3818]: main: error loading '/lib/firmware/emu/hana.fw' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:01.0' with driver 'EMU10K1_Audigy'
[20:06] <chaosrl> k
[20:06] <krept> i can get to command line but i don't know what the problem is
[20:06] <protoloco> hey
[20:06] <bod_> hi
[20:06] <protoloco> what is     - ni -  in the top command..
[20:06] <protoloco> ni has like 50%
[20:07] <cwillu> chaosrl, what happens when you hibernate or suspend?
[20:07] <bod_> protoloco, try typing man top    in a terminal
[20:07] <cwillu> protoloco, nice'd tasks
[20:07] <cwillu> protoloco, i.e., tasks that are at a lower priority to run
[20:07] <chaosrl> cwillu: i haven't tried hibernate; suspend goes to the blinking half-moon and turns the screen off, everything else seems to remain on (cpu fan, hd), light keeps flashing
[20:07] <sheen> bascule, no there is no change, my xorg.conf show ati yet =(
[20:08] <tatters> is there another place for source-o-matic, the web page seems to have been taken down?
[20:08] <cwillu> chaosrl, does the caps lock, num lock or scroll lock keys work at that point?
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> chaosrl: to wake up from suspend, I had to change the following in /etc/default/acpi-support:
[20:08] <_LoneCrow> anyone anyone?  I just installed ubuntu server 6.06 and now it's finished, the login comes up, but no keyboards will work no matter what!  I picked the default keyboard layout and actually did the install..
[20:08] <chaosrl> cwillu: no, nothing but a hard reset (hold down power button) works
[20:08] <cwillu> Jack_Sparrow, it sounds like he's not getting to sleep
[20:08] <chaosrl> Jack_Sparrow: i've tried chaing the acpi, didn't wokr
[20:08] <davidwong> anyone knwow what is wrong with this iptables, "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -dport 80 -j REDIRECT -to-port 3128" it say bad arugment '80' anyone know what is wrong with that? thanks..
[20:08] <chaosrl> soryr guys i've got to go
[20:08] <chaosrl> i'll be back in 15
[20:08] <Boglizk> I have a open port in my router since long ago, but when i started Ubuntu just now, it "closed" according to Shields up and nmap. I'm thinking this is iptables fault. But i need some help
[20:08] <bardyr> sheen, install nvidia-glx-new
[20:08] <kale> i need some help for my usb stick
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> chaosrl: SAVE_VBE_STATE=false      	POST_VIDEO=false
[20:08] <krept> how do i uninstall alsa?
[20:08] <fismoll8> if you copy all user files from one user folder (say X) to another user folder (Y) will user Y be able to access all the programs that user X can
[20:09] <CrazyWulf> I've been having a strange problem lately. Basically anytime I transfer/download large files my mouse will start to get extremely laggy. I can't pinpoint when it happens exactly, I'm guessing after 200mb or so. Any ideas please? The only way to get it back to normal is to restart my entire system :(
[20:09] <cwillu> chaosrl, when you blacklisted it, did the suspend work though?
[20:09] <bod_> chaosrl, bye
[20:09] <sheen> bardyr, already done
[20:09] <thecrono> what is a good p2p for kubuntu?
[20:09] <thecrono> or a good linux one
[20:09] <void^> davidwong: --dport
[20:09] <davidwong> i see let me try
[20:09] <bardyr> sheen, whats the exact problem then?
[20:09] <sheen> bardyr, then I've launch nvidia-xconfig enble, it tell that my xorg.conf has change but there is no change
[20:10] <bascule> sheen: well edit xorg.conf so it says nvidia in the device section on the driver line
[20:10] <sheen> bardyr, the exact problem is I'm in 640x480 @ 60Hz with my ex ati in xorg.conf
[20:10] <bardyr> sheen, start nvidia-settings
[20:10] <sheen> bascule, there much than nvidia to write I think. Something like nvidia GTS 512 [PCI-E]
[20:10] <thecrono> er, ubuntu, not kubuntu
[20:10] <bardyr> sheen, or just change ati to nvidia in the driver parameter
[20:11] <sheen> bardyr, nvidia setting tell that I have not nvidia X drive rlaunched
[20:11] <blizzkid> no-one experienced with setting up a tuner card?
[20:11] <bascule> sheen: http://rafb.net/p/ZpSBuR49.html for starters
[20:11] <tatters> is there a source list generator , the one most site point to is down
[20:11] <nintendoteenager> i get this error when i open the update
[20:11] <bod_> Hey guys,. sometimes when i restart my computer i will have no sound,,.,. no matter how many times i restart i get no sound,.,. if i power off-on then i get my sound back,.,. any ideas?
[20:12] <dbrewer_rjr> canonical is not replying to my inqueries for a support contract. There are private vendors also available. does anyone know who the gurus are?
[20:12] <sheen> bascule, thank but I don't what Rv chip it is
[20:12] <bascule> its the identifier string it needs to match in screen
[20:12] <amerio> is it ok if XIne-Lib is taking like 5 minutes in make install procedure?
[20:12] <nintendoteenager> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[20:12] <nintendoteenager> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[20:12] <amerio> I mean is it normal
[20:12] <bascule> sheen: you can call it 'new graphics card' if you want, so long as it matches in screen
[20:13] <Boglizk> Is there a program that shows which program blocks what ports? Something is blocking my downloadport, and port 80
[20:13] <sheen> bascule, I try
[20:13] <Jack_Sparrow> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[20:13] <silvergryphon> Query:  Since my drive is a SATA, should it be called as sd(0,0) vs.  hd(0,0)?   Gnome Partition Manager seems to distinguish it differently.
[20:13] <nintendoteenager> then when i enter the command it says dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[20:13] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow,  sometimes when i restart my computer i will have no sound,,.,. no matter how many times i restart i get no sound,.,. if i power off-on then i get my sound back,.,. any ideas?
[20:14] <speedcore> I must say, UBUNTU and FREENODE ROCKS!  I never look back now... superfast chatting with smart people and a OS that's amazingly powerful...   thanx all.. just wanted to tell you
[20:14] <chaosrl> cwillu, sorry i had to run off, i didn't try to suspend when i blacklisted, ought i do that?
[20:14] <bascule> sheen: like this snippet http://rafb.net/p/a4K5GP11.html note the device matches in the 2 sections
[20:14] <bod_> nintendoteenager, the privilige thing can be sorted by adding he word    sudo    to the beginning of the commnad
[20:14] <kbs> hello, anyone managed to get his dell M1730 graphics working on gutsy?
[20:14] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: I am thinking a device is slow to init.. but other than that no valid idea.
[20:14] <kale> my user is unable to gain write access for my usbstick, what do i do?
[20:14] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, cheers anyway dude
[20:15] <sixpence> Heya, is it possible to write an ISO image to a dvd using cdrecord?
[20:15] <_xyz> hey guys, can someone quickly tell me GRUB is?
[20:15] <bod_> sixpence, only if cdrecord knows about dvd's which by its name i doubt
[20:15] <Boglizk> _xyz: Its a Boot Loader
[20:15] <bengee_> hello, i need help to set up mz grphiccard driver, because none of the ones who should work work.
[20:15] <silvergryphon> It's a bootloader that is giving me fits.
[20:16] <_xyz> Boglizk: i am unable to boot into anything thru CD, Grub takes over before that can happen
[20:16] <silvergryphon> and not finding any helpful information on configuring it, either.
[20:16] <dbrewer_rjr> canonical is not replying to my inqueries for a support contract. There are private vendors also available. does anyone know who the gurus are?
[20:16] <davidwong> Hi, when i add in a "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128" now when i do a iptables --list, I don't see that in there why> anyone know its not in there?
[20:16] <silvergryphon> hit <ESC> as it's starting to load.
[20:16] <Revolution> r
[20:16] <_xyz> ok
[20:16] <Boglizk> _xyz: Thats a BIOS setting, makes sure you select CD to boot before your harddrive
[20:16] <_xyz> Boglizk: i did go into bios and change it
[20:16] <chaosrl> Jack_Sparrow: did your computer go into suspend? because i'm having trouble not just waking up, but actually entering suspend
[20:17] <bascule> sixpence: I have burned dvd on cli wit cdrecord in the past, no problem, just remember -vv or you woll see no progress report on the burning :)
[20:17] <nintendoteenager> thanks bod_
[20:17] <chaosrl> and again, so very sorry for running off so quickly -.-;;;
[20:17] <bod_> nintendoteenager, no probs m8
[20:17] <sixpence> bascule: Thanks
[20:17] <kale> how do i change the way a usb-stick get mounted ?
[20:17] <_xyz> Boglizk: if it's an old system (from around 2001, Pentium 3), is normal to expect it to want a floppy boot disk.. before a CD
[20:17] <OwlNoob> Hi all, I could need some help finalizing my imap server
[20:17] <bod_> _xyz, the option for cd boot stays for only a few seconds,., you have to pres the correct button quickly
[20:17] <filthpig> I'm having trouble activating my mike.. it's an onboard sound card on an Asus P5KPL mobo
[20:18] <bod_> _xyz, you can change the boot order in bios to put floppy at the bottom if u want
[20:18] <OwlNoob> I can send & recieve mail locally, send and recieve from my ISP's network but not from gmail for instance...
[20:18] <_xyz> bod_, i know, but this time it just doesn't work out
[20:18] <genii> !intelhda
[20:18] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[20:18] <_xyz> _xyz, it just doesn't boot from CD at all..
[20:18] <sheen> bascule, do you think this one can work ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53214/
[20:18] <void^> davidwong: you need -t nat, see man iptables
[20:18] <MrObvious> OwlNoob: Maybe your ISP is blocking the traffic?
[20:18] <bod_> _xyz, so how did you install it then?
[20:19] <_xyz> bod_ well back then i didnt have this problem
[20:19] <OwlNoob> I don't know if h=this is a DNS setting or a firewall matter or even a postfix setting (I doubt that because I got the one from my old srver wich used to work fine)
[20:19] <genii> filthpig: the !intelhda was for you, forgot to diret it your way
[20:19] <bod_> _xyz, wot r u trying to install?
[20:19] <_xyz> bod_, just WinXP SP2
[20:19] <ian_> I got a problem with a Toshiba A215-S7416 Laptop where the sound wont work
[20:19] <bascule> sheen: looks good to me
[20:19] <OwlNoob> MrObvious: nope port 25 is open, and user experience show it ougth to work
[20:19] <_xyz> bod_, however, I can't boot even into live Ubuntu 7.04 atm
[20:19] <_LoneCrow> I just installed ubuntu server 6.06 and now it's finished, the login comes up, but no keyboards will work no matter what!  I picked the default keyboard layout and actually did the install..
[20:19] <sheen> bascule, ty, I try
[20:20] <_xyz> bod_, only into the 7.04 Ubuntu that's on my HDD
[20:20] <bascule> sheen: wait typo in monitor
[20:20] <_LoneCrow> I can run the install utility keyboard works fine.. as soon as you get to login no keyboard
[20:20] <bascule> sheen: Section "Monitor" Identifier     "Monotor"
[20:20] <bod_> _xyz,  why doesnt the cd boot work,.,. error messages?
[20:20] <bardyr> _LoneCrow, have you tried a newer version?, 6.06 seems broken on a lot of new servers lately
[20:20] <_LoneCrow> hmmm ok
[20:20] <_xyz> bod_ no error messages. i can't explain it. everything's connected
[20:20] <_LoneCrow> I thought 6.06 was the last stable one
[20:21] <good_dana> _LoneCrow: 6.06 was the last LTS version
[20:21] <sheen> bascule, oups nice, thanks ;)
[20:21] <bod_> _xyz, does it attempt to boot the cd?
[20:21] <bascule> :)
[20:21] <qbert> how do I unstinstall gcj / gij ?
[20:21] <bardyr> _LoneCrow, its the last (and first) long time support version, the latest is 7.10
[20:21] <tifine> hello
[20:21] <MrObvious> OwlNoob: Try going to grc.com and doing a Shields Up! test and see if Port 25 is open.
[20:21] <_LoneCrow> gutsy.. ok.. thought that was kinda beta
[20:21] <tifine> any good mail reader better than evolution ?
[20:21] <flea> hi might anyone be familiar with snmpd starting up fine (no errors) but surely its not listening
[20:21] <MrObvious> OwlNoob: If it isn't then your ISP is blocking it.
[20:21] <chaosrl> tifine: thunderbird
[20:21] <chaosrl> by mozilla is what i use
[20:21] <bod_> tifine, thunderbird
[20:21] <_LoneCrow> I had issues with gutsy in the past though.. I'll see if I still ahve the cd.. if not its redl :)
[20:22] <tifine> hmm never heard of it let me check
[20:22] <bascule> _LoneCrow: not dead-rat surely ... :P
[20:22] <bod_> !thunderbird
[20:22] <ubotu> Thunderbird is a free email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox (both by the Mozilla Foundation). To make Thunderbird links open in Firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[20:22] <OwlNoob> MrObvious: from my server I can send anywhere... but I can't recieve from other networks... Doing the test anyway
[20:22] <smultron> i'm have a really hard time getting IEs4Linux to install with it's new Python-GTK gui... anyone else had success? (ubuntu 7.10)
[20:22] <kale> fixed my usbstick issue, somehow the usbstick had a bad format on it, probably from M$
[20:23] <MrObvious> OwlNoob: And check the receiving port too.
[20:23] <_xyz> bod_, it was a master/slave issue with old CD drives. thanks for your help though
[20:23] <_LoneCrow> anyone install zenoss on ubuntu server 7.10?
[20:23] <flea> lone yes i did yesterday
[20:23] <MrObvious> OwlNoob: There might be a better channel to get support for e-mail servers.
[20:23] <std> How do I ripl dos from rpld?
[20:24] <flea> _LoneCrow: http://www.cyberciti.biz/nixcraft/linux/docs/uniqlinuxfeatures/mrtg/ follow that
[20:24] <bod_> _xyz,  ok,.,. YW
[20:24] <solexious> Hi guys, ive just put a raid crd in my linux box, how can I try to install its drivers?
[20:24] <flea> crap wrong one
[20:24] <OwlNoob> MrObvious: 25 and 143 are stealth
[20:24] <bascule> solexious: find what it wants and sudo modprobe <thing it wants>
[20:24] <flea> _LoneCrow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zenoss
[20:24] <flea> there ya go
[20:24] <bod_> hi guys,. my keyboard layout is all over the place,.,. ive told it to use the English setting but no joy,.,. any thoughts?
[20:24] <std> how do I ripl dos from ripld?
[20:24] <PAULINDA> HOLA
[20:24] <bascule> ?
[20:24] <_LoneCrow> Thats MRTG :) I know about that .. it isn't zenoss
[20:25] <QuickGold> !es
[20:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:25] <MrObvious> OwlNoob: Then your ISP is blocking the ports and you'll probably have to use a nonstandard port to get it to work from what I can tell.
[20:25] <solexious> bascule: how do i find what it wants?
[20:25] <PAULINDA> HOLA ALGUIEN DE CHILE
[20:25] <flea> _LoneCrow: i found a issue with /etc/bash.bashrc
[20:25] <Pici> !br | PAULINDA
[20:25] <ubotu> PAULINDA: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[20:25] <newusergreen> im installing ubuntu server 7.10. All i need is a file server and i would like a UI. do i want to install openssh server and samba file server?
[20:25] <bascule> solexious: google is the best bet IMO
[20:25] <QuickGold> !es | PAULINDA
[20:25] <ubotu> PAULINDA: please see above
[20:25] <_LoneCrow> found a good howto for server 6.06 but not 7.10
[20:25] <PAULINDA> HOLA
[20:25] <Pici> std: I dont think anyone knows what you are asking.
[20:25] <_LoneCrow> ssh is good
[20:25] <QuickGold> !es > PAULINDA
[20:25] <OwlNoob> MrObvious: I highly doubt that because I set up a specific option to free the port 25 on my ISP admin page
[20:25] <erUSUL> !es | PAULINDA
[20:25] <eid> Hi guys, i installed DHCP3-server, but it's not running at boot time, each time i have to start it manually ?
[20:26] <MrObvious> QuickGold: Portuguese, not spanish.
[20:26] <smultron> i'm have a really hard time getting IEs4Linux to install with it's new Python-GTK gui... anyone else had success? (ubuntu 7.10)
[20:26] <flea> _LoneCrow: see pm
[20:26] <QuickGold> Ah, close enough :P
[20:26] <ubotu> PAULINDA: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:26] <MrObvious> OwlNoob: Ok well I tried.
[20:26] <_LoneCrow> pici - bash.rc for the keyboad?
[20:26] <std> Pici: Remote Initial Program Load RIPL.
[20:26] <flea> can anyone help with snmpd not listening?
[20:26] <MrObvious> !anyone | flea
[20:26] <ubotu> flea: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[20:27] <bod_> lol
[20:27] <OwlNoob> MrObvious: thanx for you help :) I think you may be right about the channel, I will go on #postfix to check if anyone can help me
[20:27] <leila> hi all!
[20:27] <newusergreen> send the link for server 6. whatever
[20:27] <MrObvious> OwlNoob: Glad to point you in the right direction. :)
[20:27] <leila> i need help
[20:27] <bod_> leila, hi
[20:27] <MrObvious> Howdy leila.
[20:28] <leila> someone knows how to disable the spindown with sdparm?
[20:28] <kale> what is the program that checks for automatic updates called?
[20:28] <leila> i need to disable it for a external hd
[20:28] <bod_> kale, update manager?
[20:28] <PAULINDA> NO ENTIENDO NDA
[20:28] <PAULINDA> BYWE
[20:28] <bascule> leila: well it is more an acpid issue than hdparm, but hdparm can do it
[20:28] <bod_> bye
[20:28] <kale> bod_: its an icon in the gnome menu, a little ball, red or green i think
[20:28] <czr> leila, what kind of external hd is it?
[20:28] <MrObvious> PAULINDA: Go to #ubuntu-br :)
[20:29] <kale> bod_: it checks for updates itself
[20:29] <sheen> bascule, not working =(
[20:29] <leila> bascule: hdparm give me an erroe
[20:29] <m_>  i can't se where is Compiz-Fusion?!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:29] <bod_> kale,  i dont seem to have that,.
[20:29] <bascule> leila: sudo it
[20:29] <flea> ubotu: i did that and got no reply
[20:29] <leila> czr: wester digital
[20:29] <MrObvious> m_: Did you do that sudo apt-get command from earlier?
[20:29] <flea> ubotu: its in yer history if you need to see it
[20:30] <czr> leila, I mean what interface does it connect with? USB?
[20:30] <MrObvious> flea: Ubotu is a bot.
[20:30] <flea> i talk bot
[20:30] <leila> czr: yes, usb
[20:30] <YouKnowMe> how would one mount a harddrive from the CLI?
[20:30] <czr> leila, then spindown control is not possible with sdparm
[20:30] <bod_> m_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[20:30] <leila> bascule: of couse, error using sudo
[20:30] <czr> leila, some usb drives expose the functionality using proprietary HID extensions over USB, but I don't know any tools for linux for those.
[20:30] <bod_> flea, i dont think ubotu likes you very much,.,. he's ignoring you,.,.lol
[20:31] <MrObvious> YouKnowMe: mount /dev/hdX /mnt/place or mount/dev/sdX /mnt/place for SATA drives.
[20:31] <czr> leila, what if you make a small cronjob that reads the disk once a minute?
[20:31] <MrObvious> YouKnowMe: Try man mount and also Google for more info.
[20:31] <czr> leila, it's a hack, but it might be just enough
[20:31] <m_>   Try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras in a terminal
[20:31] <bascule> czr: sync is safer, but good thinking
[20:31] <bod_> m_,  go here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[20:32] <schizo> Hi all..  I wonder if there's any simple way to remove all non-default files without doing a reinstall!?
[20:32] <leila> czr: so it's impossible to disable with hdparm or sdparm
[20:32] <czr> leila, yes
[20:32] <MrObvious> m_: Ok now go System -> Preferences -> Appearance and push the last tab under Effects or Desktop Effects.
[20:32] <czr> leila, since USB storage devices use only the USB storage profile (kind of "standard") and it doesn't support spindown or anything else but reading and writing blocks.
[20:32] <bascule> leila: it could be in the external drives controller its self
[20:32] <m_> i put it in terminal and the terminal download it but i don't know where is?
[20:33] <czr> leila, getting error/diagnostics info is also impossible because of the same reason (with smartctl)
[20:33] <leila> czr: ah ok
[20:33] <bod_> is there a comedy channel?
[20:33] <bod_> or a joke channel?
[20:34] <leila> czr: the solution is to write a script that try to read the hd every 3 min?
[20:34] <czr> leila, what you want is a small script that guarantees spin-up (easy enough to test)
[20:34] <m_> believ me it is difficault to me give me a time please to search as you say
[20:34] <czr> leila, yeah. you might want to do a small write as well. and a sync after the wrote. or bypass the kernel read cache.
[20:34] <YouKnowMe> Say I must specify filesystem type. Its fat32
[20:34] <leila> czr: yes
[20:35] <YouKnowMe> MrObvious, its say I must specify filesystem. Its fat 32
[20:35] <czr> leila, if you know programming, you might want to write a small program instead. since cronjobs are logged to syslog each time they execute
[20:36] <CrazyWulf> I've been having a strange problem lately. Basically anytime I transfer/download large files my mouse will start to get extremely laggy. I can't pinpoint when it happens exactly, I'm guessing after 200mb or so. Any ideas please? The only way to get it back to normal is to restart my entire system :(
[20:36] <m_> the problem is the my ubuntu is not english it is swedish language
[20:36] <leila> czr: ok, thank you.. i will write this small program
[20:36] <MrObvious> YouKnowMe: There's an option in man mount for that. I'm not just going to spoon feed the answer because that's cheating. No offense or anything but the best way to learn Linux is to learn where to find answers to simple questions like this.
[20:37] <leila> czr: i'm going to write, thanks ... bye
[20:37] <MrObvious> YouKnowMe: I had this happen to me and it's how I learned. :)
[20:37] <czr> leila, np
[20:37] <bod_> CrazyWulf, im only ansering because no-one else is,. but il try and help,.,.lol,.,. has this always happened?
[20:37] <czr> leila, I actually consider the spindown on mybooks a nice feature :-). not all usb disks have spindown
[20:37] <CrazyWulf> Yes, first time it happend was during the initial updates
[20:37] <Dagaka> Anyone know is their a list of all the best console based apps for linux or lightweight apps?
[20:37] <bod_> CrazyWulf, how many people r on ur network?
[20:38] <CrazyWulf> Just one other box
[20:38] <bod_> CrazyWulf, braodband speed?
[20:38] <CrazyWulf> Yes
[20:38] <bod_> CrazyWulf, what speed is ur broadband?
[20:38] <schizo> No one who got any idea if its possible to "cleanup" the complete system of nondefault packages?
[20:38] <CrazyWulf> 5.-
[20:38] <MrObvious> CrazyWulf: Wow strange problem. :\
[20:39] <MrObvious> schizo: Maybe sudo apt-get autoremove will remove unneeded packages.
[20:39] <bod_> CrazyWulf, download limits?
[20:39] <CrazyWulf> Nope
[20:39] <CrazyWulf> I don't see how that would effect my mouse even if there was?
[20:39] <bod_> CrazyWulf, can u recreate the problem at leisure?
[20:39] <czr> I also use deborphan to get rid of the rest
[20:39] <czr> but one needs to be careful with deborphan
[20:39] <CrazyWulf> Yes, if I download a large file it will happen
[20:40] <schizo> problem is not unneeded.. I would like to do a refresh.. And I'd prefer not to reinstall.. :)
[20:40] <MrObvious> CrazyWulf: What is the hard drive usage like when you get those huge downloads? That's certainly a possibility that the hard drive is being used too much and lagging the system.
[20:40] <czr> could be a non-DMA drive as well.
[20:40] <CrazyWulf> MrObvious:    The rest of the system is running perfectly.   All apps and such are not affected by it
[20:40] <schizo> hmm is deborphan self explanatory?
[20:40] <CrazyWulf> All resources are normal, cpu usage is next to nothing
[20:41] <czr> schizo, it comes with a manual page :-). it lists the package names which are not depended upon by any other package
[20:41] <CrazyWulf> Even after the downloading, the mouse still lags
[20:41] <MrObvious> CrazyWulf: How new is this sytem and the hard drive?
[20:41] <czr> schizo, but you should start with autoremove first. it's safe.
[20:41] <MrObvious> CrazyWulf: How much RAM do you use?
[20:41] <bod_> CrazyWulf, after the lag begins,.,. wot happens if u disconnect-reconnect the mouse?
[20:41] <CrazyWulf> It's not the greatest system, HDD brand new
[20:41] <CrazyWulf> Only has 512MB ram
[20:41] <CrazyWulf> If I disconnect and reconnect the mouse, the mouse will no longer respond
[20:42] <schizo> ok.. I kind of figured my mission was impossible.. would like to remove all packages that doesn't come default during the installation. :) I'm having bcm43xx issues :)
[20:42] <MrObvious> I'm betting it's a hardware problem. Maybe run Memtest?
[20:42] <bod_> CrazyWulf, ah,.,. not good,.,.
[20:42] <m_> Desktop effects could not be enabled!!!!!!! but why?
[20:42] <bod_> m_ do u have a graphics card installed?
[20:42] <m_> yes
[20:42] <MrObvious> schizo: What exact BCM chipset?
[20:42] <MonctonJoe> is it possible for a person to make a driver? can you take a driver from a simular divice and make some changes that might make the driver work with your own device?
[20:43] <bod_> m_ do the drivers work?
[20:43] <schizo> bcm4312..
[20:43] <MrObvious> Hmm.
[20:43] <CrazyWulf> Any ideas on what could be causing this problem?    It would be one thing if it was *just* the network card or *just* the mouse
[20:43] <bod_> MonctonJoe, someone has to make the driver in the first place so ,., yes
[20:43] <CrazyWulf> I don't see any connection between the two though
[20:43] <MrObvious> schizo: ndiswrapper or bcm43xx-fwcutter?
[20:43] <m_> everything is working great
[20:43] <goodhabit> Hello. I'm on gutsy. How to set-up QT aplications look? Like colors, etc.
[20:43] <bascule> CrazyWulf: IRQ sharing
[20:43] <MonctonJoe> bod_: do you know of a group or person who is into making drivers?
[20:43] <schizo> had it working fine in gutsy using fwcutter,, did an upgrade to hardy and now I just cannot get it working
[20:43] <bod_> CrazyWulf, is it 1 particular download or any download?
[20:44] <CrazyWulf> Any download or transfer
[20:44] <bascule> MonctonJoe: the linux kernel developers
[20:44] <czr> MonctonJoe, it is possible, however it requires a lot of knowledge if the devices are even slightly different.
[20:44] <bod_> MonctonJoe, nope,.,. nvidia,.,.lol,.,. just know that its possible,. IF u could get the original code
[20:44] <MrObvious> CrazyWulf: My guess is the RAM is unstable or something and it's causing the system to mess up the mouse.
[20:44] <CrazyWulf> Hmm
[20:44] <bod_> CrazyWulf,  i think MrObvious might be right,. run a memtest on your machine
[20:44] <MrObvious> schizo: Ahh. Isn't Hardy in development? You might wanna downgrade until it works again.
[20:45] <czr> MonctonJoe, and if they're similar enough, you wouldn't need to modify/write a driver for them since the existing ones would work just fine.
[20:45] <CrazyWulf> Ok I'll give it a try
[20:45] <CrazyWulf> thanks
[20:45] <MonctonJoe> well, I cant find a driver for my printer, but there is a windows driver for it and some linux drivers for printers that are very close to mine
[20:45] <MrObvious> bod_: I specialize in hardware problems because I visit an overclocking site and know a lot about hardware problems since people are always having unstable overclocks. lol
[20:45] <MrObvious> CrazyWulf: YW
[20:45] <bod_> MrObvious, cool
[20:45] <t1me2z> привет
[20:46] <czr> MrObvious, you could always just buy motherboards with VIA chipsets
[20:46] <t1me2z> кууууллл
[20:46] <t1me2z> я лоооммм
[20:46] <t1me2z> )))
[20:46] <xbot_> how can i run compiz-fusion without xgl? i am running an nvidia 7900gtx, i installed nvidia drivers through envy, compiz wont load without xgl, but nvidia's drivers wont run with xgl running... help? :)
[20:46] <czr> t1me2z, #ubuntu-ru please
[20:46] <schizo> Yes.. very much in developement.. :) I guess I'll have to do a downgrade.. I'd rather not though. :) I'll keep at it.. thanx anyways.
[20:46] <MrObvious> !ru
[20:46] <t1me2z> ееее
[20:46] <puff> I'm having a problem with my my mouse pointer on my thinkpad, it seems to lock into scroll mode.  I think this is a gnome/x problem of some sort.  It started last night and I thought it was the logitech wireless mouse I was using, but now it's undocked and I'm seeing similar behavior with the touchscreen and keyboard eraser-thingie.
[20:46] <m_> ok it is not så big problem ,,,,,,,,,,i just want to test the 3d beryl or comipiz but i tell you i have windows and linux both and it is great
[20:46] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[20:46] <t1me2z> my ubuntu work grate
[20:47] <MrObvious> czr: VIA chipsets suck for overclocking. A solid one would do better. For stock VIA is okay, but I prefer better quality hardware.
[20:47] <t1me2z> ))
[20:47] <MrObvious> !enter > t1me2z
[20:47] <MonctonJoe> bascule: is it possible for a person to get in touch with linux kernel developers?
[20:47] <czr> MrObvious, I never overclock and still run into hw bugs with VIAs ;-)
[20:47] <czr> MrObvious, I was trying to be ironic ;-)
[20:47] <MrObvious> Oh
[20:47] <MrObvious> It's hard to tell irony/sarcasm on the Interwebs!
[20:47] <t1me2z> have someone from Florida?
[20:47] <__mikem> i'm from florida
[20:47] <MrObvious> t1me2z: What do you want?
[20:48]  * czr gives MrObvious a spool of Fe
[20:48] <xbot_> can anyone help me?
[20:48] <t1me2z> coolll maybe drom Destin?
[20:48] <MrObvious> czr: Iron?
[20:48] <MrObvious> !anyone > xbot_
[20:48] <czr> MrObvious, yup. the principal ingridient of irony.
[20:48] <MrObvious> czr: Ahh lol.
[20:48] <bod_> MrObvious, ur pipes r not working
[20:49] <puff> Help?
[20:49] <xbot_> MrObvious, how can i run compiz-fusion without xgl? i am running an nvidia 7900gtx, i installed nvidia drivers through envy, compiz wont load without xgl, but nvidia's drivers wont run with xgl running... help? :)
[20:49] <alpaco> I'm the only person logged in to the machine, but "uptime" shows 2 users!
[20:49] <bod_> xbot_, restricted drivers
[20:50] <bod_> alpaco, u and root
[20:50] <MrObvious> puff: Hmm. I wonder if something went unstable. I really don't know. :(
[20:50] <solexious> Hi guys, ive got a zip with drivers in it, how can I install them/what extention are linux drivers? *using server so need to use commands*
[20:50] <Starnestommy> alpaco: are you logged in on a terminal and the desktop?
[20:50] <xbot_> bod_, it says that they are running but when i try to access nvidia-settings it says that they are not
[20:50] <alpaco> yes, but it now shows 4 users
[20:50] <puff> MrObvious: Thanks anyway... speaking of unstable, lately I've been noticing my laptop seems less stable - starting to feel like windows.
[20:50] <alpaco> gnome desktop and 1 xterm
[20:50] <MrObvious> solexious: unzip for the ZIP file.
[20:51] <puff> MrObvious: I'm probably overdue for a dist-upgrade...I'm still on feisty, too.
[20:51] <MrObvious> puff: Maybe run Memtest for about 3 hours?
[20:51] <MrObvious> puff: Nah I'd do a resh install.
[20:51] <MrObvious> *fresh
[20:51] <offload> Does anyone here use Gnome in ubuntu?  I'm trying to figure out why a task i take for granted is missing.  When I want to upload pics I can only see a list view and not a thumbnails view.  Anyone have a solution to this?
[20:51] <arizon> ikonia: hello!
[20:51] <alpaco> Starnestommy: I have one xterm open but "uptime" shows 4 users and "who" shows 2 users
[20:51] <MrObvious> offload: You mean in Nautilus?
[20:52] <gsuveg> a bit offtopic, but how can i test if the user have root access in perl ?
[20:52] <wyclif> offload Nautilus
[20:52] <wyclif> ???
[20:52] <ironfoot_495> Hi All what is a good script I can use to scrub excell files with?
[20:52] <offload> yeah I guess.  Sorry
[20:52] <martibs> I'm trying to install vmware player, but I cannot get the networking to work. When I run the vmware-config.pl I get this output:
[20:52] <martibs> Building the vmnet module.
[20:52] <martibs> Using 2.6.x kernel build system.
[20:52] <martibs> make: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmnet-only'
[20:52] <martibs> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/build/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD SRCROOT=$PWD/. modules
[20:52] <martibs> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic'
[20:52] <FloodBot1> martibs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:52] <alpaco> gsuveg: EFNET, #perlhelp
[20:52] <MrObvious> Whoops. :
[20:52] <gsuveg> alpaco, thanks
[20:52] <Starnestommy> gsuveg: I think freenode has a #perl
[20:52] <alpaco> np
[20:52] <MrObvious> offload: You mean in Nautilus?
[20:53] <offload> MrObvious, yes.
[20:53] <wyclif> offload: View>Reset View to Defaults
[20:53] <m_> no body help me ok byebye i am cry thank you any how
[20:53] <alpaco> gsuveg: the official help desk for perl is in EFNET
[20:53] <MrObvious> wyclif got it offload :)
[20:53] <m_> good night
[20:53] <MrObvious> :D
[20:53] <jetscreamer> gsuveg: #perl
[20:53] <bod_> m_ join compiz-fusion channel
[20:53] <MrObvious> m_: We tried.
[20:53] <gsuveg> thanks!
[20:53] <martibs> I mean: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53225/   :/
[20:54] <MrObvious> m_: Maybe have a fluent English speaker when you come back to translate
[20:54] <m_> aufwidersehen
[20:54] <bod_> bye
[20:54] <puff> MrObvious: Now that *really* sounds like windows :-)
[20:54] <offload> MrObvious, that didn't do it.  I'm talking about when you are in the file upload dialog box.  The gnome explorer only allows you to see list of file name and not previews of the files.  As in I want to send pictures via email or upload a photo to myspace.  Things like that.
[20:54] <alpaco> I have only one xterm window open, but "uptime" shows 4 users and "who" shows 2 users!!
[20:55] <m_> ok guys good bye
[20:55] <alpaco> what's going on?
[20:55] <offload> I mean Nautilus
[20:55] <wyclif> puff lol
[20:55] <Starnestommy> alpaco: it's likely some programs are being run as root or specially-created users for certain background processes
[20:55] <qbert> how do I get Ubuntu to not start the graphical start thing with the progress bar, I just want text
[20:56] <wyclif> offload also View >> View as Icons will reset it in the GUI
[20:56] <alpaco> Starnestommy: thanks
[20:56] <Starnestommy> qbert: change "quiet splash" to "nosplash" in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:56] <Jack_Sparrow> qbert: Hit escape on boot and select recovery mode
[20:56] <solexious> MrObvous: what do I do after unzipping?
[20:56] <MrObvious> puff: Well it would make it stable. It's not uncommon for Linux to get messed up when learning to get wiped out several times before getting the hang of it. But if you have bad hardware and can replace it and get stable again then you should be able to just upgrade normally.
[20:56] <MrObvious> solexious: What kind of driver is it?
[20:57] <solexious> its for a raid pci card
[20:57] <solexious> not sure what file it is as i dont know the ext for driver files
[20:58] <solexious> *linux drivers that is*
[20:58] <Starnestommy> solexious: usually .so or .ko, but they sometimes don't have pne
[20:58] <MrObvious> solexious: Which RAID PCI card in particular? Where did you get the drivers?
[20:58] <Starnestommy> *one
[20:58] <MrObvious> solexious: Try giving me a link to read a manual or something so I can help you out.
[20:58] <solexious> its a generic one, dl them from the place i got it from
[20:58] <czr> hmm. any idea how to force apt-get to apply all updates (barring conflicts)?
[20:58] <solexious> pming you
[20:58] <ubuntuo> hey, is there a xchat plugin for "playing music" ?
[20:59] <MrObvious> czr: Which deb is errant?
[20:59] <Starnestommy> ubuntuo: you may want to ask #xchat
[20:59] <ubuntuo> ok
[20:59] <ubuntuo> thanks
[20:59] <MrObvious> czr: I would see about fixing the errant package instead of forcing it.
[20:59] <Jack_Sparrow> czr: I need to ask.. did you EVER try to run automatix or envy.. (Both bad ideas)
[20:59] <czr> MrObvious, err. I'm still doing the preseeding thing. after installing the system, update-manager says that there are 6 packages with security fixes. I want to apply them automatically while installing.
[20:59] <czr> Jack_Sparrow, no.
[21:00] <czr> maybe I wasn't clear enough. these are regular ubuntu packages from repo.
[21:00] <wyclif> Jack_Sparrow won't that cause boot errors?
[21:00] <MrObvious> czr: So you're doing an upgrade and have security fixes? Finish the upgrade first.
[21:00] <czr> just they're not automatically installed when installing the desktop.
[21:00]  * czr sighs
[21:00] <Jack_Sparrow> czr: Common to see people having problems with upgrade after they have tried that script
[21:01] <qbert> sorry I missed it, where was the grub entry for nosplash ?
[21:01] <genii> czr: Do a post-install directive then of apt-get update
[21:01] <wyclif> Jack_Sparrow i was told in no uncertain terms that automatix will break your shiny new upgrade
[21:01] <ubuntuo> is ubuntu trying to take over redhat?
[21:01] <genii> czr: in-target of course
[21:01] <Jack_Sparrow> wyclif: THe list of problems it can cause are endless..
[21:01] <czr> genii, yeah, but how to force it (normally it's interactive and asks whether to do the updates).
[21:01] <genii> czr: usually -y or so
[21:02] <Jack_Sparrow> wyclif: I agree with that...
[21:02] <czr> genii, ah. that simple. I'll try that. thanks.
[21:02] <wyclif> my teenage cousin ran automatix.  it made his video card flicker rather badly
[21:02] <ubuntuo> jack_sparrow: how many years have you worked with linux?
[21:03] <czr> genii, I'm still wondering why the netboot-based install doesn't automatically install the newest available versions of all packages.
[21:03] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntuo: About 15 total..   but this is offtopic.. fyi
[21:03] <LimCore> Jack_Sparrow: wow thats a lot
[21:03] <ubuntuo> :) sorry
[21:03] <ubuntuo> i agree :)
[21:03] <MrObvious> solexious: That's the Windows drivers. D'oh.
[21:03] <Jack_Sparrow> czr: Because it strives for stable.
[21:03] <genii> czr: Because the default dist type is Stable and not Testing or Experimental (in Debian terms)
[21:03] <wyclif> Jack_Sparrow by my count that's only 4 years after teh original kernel ;-)
[21:03] <genii> or Unstable
[21:03] <czr> argh. they're security update versions..
[21:04] <Jack_Sparrow> wyclif: I started programming in assy back in '79
[21:04] <czr> dapper's preseed/netboot did it correctly.
[21:04] <czr> gutsy's doesn't.
[21:04] <Jack_Sparrow> wyclif: USD Pascal in the late 60's... yes.. I am old
[21:05] <wyclif> Jack_Sparrow wasn't that also peak time for FORTRAN and COBOL???
[21:05] <offload> wyclif, that didn't fix it.  Let me be more detailed.  I'm in firefox, and am in the "FILE UPLOAD" window.  But it only shows lists.  Inside that window there is no ability to choose view as thumbnails.  So I close firefox open a regular folder window and make sure it's set to thumbnails and reopen firefox and still the same thing.  list view only in a file upload window within firefox.
[21:05] <Jack_Sparrow> wyclif: Linux was pretty much useless back then.. but that is when I first played with it
[21:05] <winter-mute> any xfce users here? i have problems with speed of file dialog boxes.
[21:06] <genii> czr: I had to empirically discover what the preseed file stuff does, what a pain. Poorly documented
[21:06] <AngryElf> there's an app that makes for a OSX-DOCK-like panel, what's it called?
[21:06] <winter-mute> When I open a directory with lots of stuff in it, it takes a while to load
[21:06] <czr> genii, tell me about it :-)
[21:06] <ubuntuo> jack_sparrow: is it possible to run ubuntu on the new mac notebook "air" with build in apple "airport"
[21:06] <MrObvious> solexious: Bad news, it looks like there aren't any Linux RAID drivers for your card.
[21:06] <czr> genii, each time a new release comes out, it will take some hours to get all the different config preseeds to be updated and tested properly..
[21:06] <winter-mute> I think maybe it is gnome related though.
[21:06] <Jack_Sparrow> wyclif: Enough ot.. yes fortran, cobol, CPM and a dozen others...
[21:06] <kenryde> hi everyone, does anybody know why Install plugin function in Exaile doesn't work? When I press install some selected plugins - just "reload" and nothing happens
[21:06] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntuo: No idea...
[21:06] <wyclif> :-)
[21:06] <martibs> VMWare Player: Can install, but network doesn't work. Output from vmware-config.pl: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53225/
[21:06] <scoobiduuu> ??Question?? I'm using Ubuntu Gusty on a laptop Dell Inspiron 2200. Using kernel 2.6.22-14-generic. When I try to setup the power management using gnome power management, after having it setup to automatically suspend or hibernate after an (X) amount of minutes it always does both. (hibernates and suspends) Can anyone offer me any advice....
[21:07] <solexious> Dam, it lies on there listing then, says supports linux
[21:07] <wyclif> what v. of Firefox is that you have?
[21:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Everyone...Play nice.  need to get some stuff done..
[21:07] <winter-mute> anyway, how do I speed up generic file dialog boxes under current release of Ubuntu?
[21:07] <offload> 2.0.0.11
[21:07] <wyclif> Jack_Sparrow bye thanks
[21:07] <winter-mute> I have gentoo install of xfce 4.4.2, and it opens folder with 4k of files nearly instantly
[21:07] <thyrax> I have a raid mount md0 and the trash goes somewhere but it does not show up in my bin anyway to fix this?
[21:08] <winter-mute> I need to speed up generic file dialog box under ubuntu :-) its a bit annoying that its slow.
[21:08] <hanophix33> ubuntu is saying that my battery only has 40% capacity, how accurate is this?
[21:09] <jdh> danny
[21:09] <ct_dude> anybody here in South Africa?
[21:09] <MrObvious> solexious: I'd take it back and get something better like a Promise card.
[21:09] <runemaste644> !ot > ct_dude
[21:09] <azexia1> vermux success?
[21:09] <NeFaRi0uS> Hello, I need some help setting up X server on my laptop, when I try and install ubuntu or run the live disk the GUI won't start up. The graphics card is a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chipset Family
[21:10] <wyclif> brb!
[21:10] <ct_dude> not really runemaster - the reason will become apparent if someone is
[21:10] <scoobiduuu> ??Question?? I'm using Ubuntu Gusty on a laptop Dell Inspiron 2200. Using kernel 2.6.22-14-generic. When I try to setup the power management using gnome power management, after having it setup to automatically suspend or hibernate after an (X) amount of minutes it always does both. (hibernates and suspends) Can anyone offer me any advice....
[21:10] <thyrax> I have a raid mount md0 and the trash goes somewhere but it does not show up in my bin anyway to fix this?
[21:10] <nintendoteenager> is there a program as good as convertxtodvd on ubuntu?
[21:10] <hanophix33> how accurate is the battery capacity meter?
[21:10] <czr> genii, is /var/lib/preseed/log stored anywhere post install?
[21:10] <BBHoss> does anyone know if thinkfinger works with any standalone devices (like for a desktop)?
[21:10] <runemaste644> how do i get x to configure itself
[21:11] <czr> hanophix33, as accurate as your motherboard manufacturer has made it (and maybe the battery maker)
[21:11] <runemaste644> like it does on the live cd
[21:11] <czr> hanophix33, best to try it out yourself. older batteries are much more difficult to "predict" correctly.
[21:11] <MrObvious> runemaste644: Your question is vague. What do you want to configure in X?
[21:11] <Starnestommy> runemaste644: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[21:11] <czr> hanophix33, the hardware does the 'prediction'. ubuntu does not.
[21:11] <runemaste644> no starnestommy
[21:11] <pawel> hej
[21:11] <hanophix33> czr: where is a good place to buy a laptop battery, i can find one on ebay for like 30 bucks but i dont trust them
[21:12] <runemaste644> thats what screwed me up
[21:12] <flea> i'm having issue where the snmpd script in .. init.d fails to listen, but if i launch manually, it listens, anyone familiar with this?
[21:12] <runemaste644> i dont want it to ask me
[21:12] <pawel> ktos z polski ?
[21:12] <czr> hanophix33, I know a pretty good recelling company here in finland ;-). seriously though, I wouldn't know what to recommend.
[21:12] <hanophix33> czr: and how can i make sure i am buying a quality battery
[21:12] <dgjones> !pl > pawe, (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[21:12] <runemaste644> i want it to do like it did on the live cd
[21:12] <czr> hanophix33, you can't unless you re-cell it.
[21:12] <dgjones> !pl > pawel, (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[21:12] <genii> czr: Not that i recall, but it's been a while since I have been in-depth on the entire preseed thing.
[21:12] <hanophix33> czr: thanks
[21:13] <czr> genii, yeah, probably need to do the whole dpkg-getselections dance.
[21:13]  * czr sighs
[21:13] <Darkmystere> Err i need help i cant get windows to boot i used instructions on the guide... But that didnt work i think its because when i installed windows i had to insert CD two times... Can i still fix it?
[21:13] <runemaste644> and -phigh chooses defaults except resolution
[21:14] <Collinp6> THis is a Ubuntu help channel, not a Windows help channel
[21:14] <darkoblivion> hi everyone
[21:14] <flea> lol
[21:14] <Collinp6> hi
[21:14]  * darkoblivion is nub
[21:14] <runemaste644> Darkmystere, go to ##windows
[21:14] <genii> czr: I found useful s a debugging tool to netboot install with alternate cd, then check console4 for clues on what dirtectives it was doing/looking at
[21:14] <NeFaRi0uS> Hello, I need some help setting up X server on my laptop, when I try and install ubuntu or run the live disk the GUI won't start up. The graphics card is a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chipset Family
[21:14] <genii> bah typos
[21:14] <Darkmystere> collin: I know.. I need to edit menu.lst to get it working
[21:14] <Darkmystere> ...
[21:15] <Darkmystere> and thats UBUNTU!!
[21:15] <MrObvious> runemaste644: Hmm. I wonder what got messed up. I never mess with that command to be honest and edit xorg.conf manually but it usually takes care of itself. You could put your xorg.conf onto a pastebin and see if someone can help you fix it.
[21:15] <Collinp6> What is the stats of the laptop?
[21:15] <flea> Darkmystere: actually wrong
[21:15] <MrObvious> Guys: He can't boot Windows from Grub.
[21:15] <flea> Darkmystere: thats grub
[21:15] <NeFaRi0uS> Collinp6 intel centrino 1.73ghz
[21:15] <Collinp6> Memory?
[21:15] <runemaste644> How come when i chose the correct res in configuring xorg, its all screwed up?
[21:15] <darkoblivion> i'm having trouble mounting a new internal...
[21:15] <Darkmystere> I know.. ive had windows working with grub before..
[21:16] <NeFaRi0uS> Collinp6 256mg
[21:16] <MrObvious> runemaste644: It could be the the refresh rate. Do you have a LCD or CRT?
[21:16] <flea> NeFaRi0uS: does the livecd show x windows?
[21:16] <Collinp6> Hmm, did u burn the disk yourself?
[21:16] <Darkmystere> i just cant boot it anymore... I need to edit grub to get windows to boot and grub is part of ubuntu
[21:16] <genii> runemaste644: Does your monitor support those resolutions? Do you have a Virtual Resolution type entry in xorg.conf? Several or more possibilities exst
[21:16] <runemaste644> lcd
[21:16] <runemaste644> its a laptop
[21:16] <thyrax> my storage raid volume md0 has a .trash folder i cannot access help
[21:16] <thyrax> it is taking up space
[21:16] <MrObvious> runemaste644: Post your xorg.conf to a pastebin and let us see what is happening and help you.
[21:17] <NeFaRi0uS> Flea: I didnt see anything like that. Its version 7.04
[21:17] <runemaste644> i clearly chose 1680x1050
[21:17] <Starnestommy> thyrax: you might need to access it as root
[21:17] <MrObvious> thyrax: What is the output of ls -l .trash ?
[21:17] <Darkmystere> thyrax: Try to open it from terminal right click trash thing and find the command that opens it
[21:17] <thyrax> star how do I set it so trash is just deleted
[21:17] <thyrax> it does not make a .trash folder
[21:17] <runemaste644> if its not .trash its .Trash
[21:17] <Darkmystere> *right click and choose properties and look for it
[21:17] <thyrax> how do I do that dark
[21:17] <flea> NeFaRi0uS: thats a common card, can you boot grub with a couple options
[21:17] <flea> nolapic pci=routeirq
[21:18] <runemaste644> its in nautilus prefs
[21:18] <flea> if that doesnt do it try nodma
[21:18]  * genii ponders ln -s /dev/null .trash
[21:18] <darkoblivion> i think i mounted a hard drive incorrectly; i can't write to it at all
[21:18] <thyrax> ok ill check the prefs
[21:18] <darkoblivion> help plz? ^^
[21:18] <MrObvious> genii: No.
[21:18] <runemaste644> system > preferences > nautilus preferences
[21:18] <genii> MrObvious: I know.
[21:18] <MrObvious> lol
[21:18] <thyrax> no nautilus prefs
[21:19] <flea> NeFaRi0uS: u could also try the 7.10 disk
[21:19] <martibs> my clock is always one hour more than it should be... if I adjust it, it resets back to GMT when I reboot
[21:19] <runemaste644> theres a check box for a delete command that bypasses trash
[21:19] <Darkmystere> thyrax: Drag an Link to the tras on desktop
[21:19] <MrObvious> thyrax: What's the output from a terminal of ls -l .trash ?
[21:19] <thyrax> rune no system > preferences > nautilus preferences
[21:19] <runemaste644> though be careful with it
[21:19] <Darkmystere> thyrax: then right click it and select properties
[21:19] <NeFaRi0uS> flea: thanks. the thing is that i'm new at this so do i type that line in the console
[21:19] <xoqa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53231/
[21:19] <xoqa> i'm trying to get rosegarden to work, but jack isn't working :\
[21:19] <Darkmystere> And then click the Launcher Tab and check the command then copy paste it into terminal and see if it gives and error
[21:20] <FTANewbie> I am a windows user and am installing Ubuntu. I had to uninstall it and go back to windows because I couldn't enable the Broadcom WIFI driver. Can anyone explain how to do this in newbie terms? I dont know what the $#@! I am doing.
[21:20] <thyrax> no such file directory
[21:20] <runemaste644> try .Trash
[21:20] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: Do you know which exact chipset it is?
[21:21] <runemaste644> FTANewbie, whats the output of lspci | grep Broadcom
[21:21] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: Like BCM4318 or something similar? I have two different Broadcom chipsets that I can help you with on it.
[21:21] <FTANewbie> MrObvious > no, it shows up as a Broadcom 43xx
[21:21] <MrObvious> runemaste644: He's in Windows.
[21:21] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: Can you get the make and model of your wi-fi card?
[21:21] <runemaste644> oh, right '_;
[21:21] <thyrax> ok i just accessed the folder
[21:21] <runemaste644> just a sec
[21:21] <thyrax> and went to edit prefs
[21:22] <thecrono> doesn't apt-get have somethign like.. a search function or the like?..i'm trying to install GTK+ 1.2....and i don't know package name
[21:22] <FTANewbie> MrObvious> I am sure I can look up the specs of my laptop online..
[21:22] <thyrax> there is ask before emptying trash
[21:22] <Chousuke> thecrono: aptitude search whatever
[21:22] <runemaste644> but u will need to install Ubuntu again
[21:22] <thyrax> and include option to bypass trash (unmarked)
[21:22] <darkoblivion> can anyone help me i mounted a hard drive but for some reason i can't write to it and i don't think its a permission issue
[21:22] <Darkmystere> thryax: Look for the tab that says launcher..
[21:22] <runemaste644> and you will probably need an ethernet cable
[21:22] <Slart> thecrono: apt-caches search
[21:22] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: Make and model laptop?
[21:23] <thyrax> where do i look for that tab dark?
[21:23] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: EG Dell Vostro 1700
[21:23] <Slart> thecrono: sorry.. apt-get search
[21:23] <scoobiduuu> ??Question?? I'm using Ubuntu Gusty on a laptop Dell Inspiron 2200. Using kernel 2.6.22-14-generic. When I try to setup the power management using gnome power management, after having it setup to automatically suspend or hibernate after an (X) amount of minutes it always does both. (hibernates and suspends) Can anyone offer me any advice....
[21:23] <runemaste644> nautilus prefs
[21:23] <thecrono> i found it put..wow, there is maby 400 files, i don't even know which one i need
[21:23] <marx2k> Question. I have a root directory (/var/www/portfolio) with 2 subdirectories. Both subdirectories have an .htaccess file but the root directory does not. However, apache is asking for login/pass when I hit the root directory.  Why would that happen?
[21:23] <dusty-sts> Hey guys, I just bought a domain name and would like to play around with bind/apache and the domain name.  Does anyone know of or can recommend a good tutorial/howto on configuring bind for a single domain name under ubuntu gutsy gibbon? I would be gratefull.
[21:23] <thecrono> it sjut said i need GTK+ 1.2 nothign else
[21:23] <FTANewbie> MrObvious> "HP Pavillion zv5034us"
[21:23] <offload> So if I'm in firefox, and am in the "FILE UPLOAD" window.. it only shows lists of files not thumbnails... and there is no option to change this that I can see. Inside that window there is no ability to choose view as thumbnails.  So I close firefox open a regular folder window and make sure it's set to thumbnails and reopen firefox and still the same thing.  list view only in a file upload window within firefox.  How can this be fixed?
[21:24] <thyrax> can't find nautilus prefs where you said it would be rune
[21:24] <thecrono> trying to install linux soulseek
[21:24] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: Lemme Google it.
[21:24] <FTANewbie> Thanks... I just don't ave any friends in state anymore that know about this OS.
[21:25] <FTANewbie> I know nothing About Linux OS's.
[21:25] <thyrax> 7.10 does not have nautilus prefs
[21:25] <thyrax> under system > prefs>
[21:25] <Starnestommy> thyrax: open nautilus then go to Edit > Preferences
[21:25] <runemaste644> ok my xorg.conf is at http://pastebin.ca/870157
[21:26] <thyrax> do u mean open any file system window?
[21:26] <thyrax> how do i "open nautilus"
[21:26] <SoulChild> hi all,... why do i always get a nautilus-debug file in my home folder with hundered of lines containing: 0x756640 2008/01/22 12:07:33.7255 (USER): debug log dumped due to signal 11
[21:26] <donluigi> My NTFS hard drive is not showing after improper shutdown with ubuntu.
[21:26] <Starnestommy> thyrax: open your home folder then go to Edit > Preferences
[21:26] <winter-mute> anyone is running 4.4.2 xfce?
[21:26] <thyrax> ok did that
[21:26] <scoobiduuu> ??Question?? I'm using Ubuntu Gusty on a laptop Dell Inspiron 2200. Using kernel 2.6.22-14-generic. When I try to setup the power management using gnome power management, after having it setup to automatically suspend or hibernate after an (X) amount of minutes it always does both. (hibernates and suspends) Can anyone offer me any advice....
[21:26] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: Found it. It's a BCM4306.
[21:27] <winter-mute> I want to get that package, but I can't access that, though synaptic
[21:27] <winter-mute> do I have to move to development release?
[21:27] <thyrax> Starnestommy I have done that
[21:27] <donluigi> My NTFS hard drive is not showing after improper shutdown with ubuntu. Can someone help me?
[21:27] <NeFaRi0uS> Flea: thanks for your help, I'll give 7.10 a go
[21:28] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=340689&highlight=bcm4306
[21:28] <flea> NeFaRi0uS: good luck, keep those grub params for testing
[21:28] <thecrono> invalid function: search
[21:28] <donluigi> My aditional NTFS hard drive is not showing as one of my places after improper shutdown in ubuntu. Can someone help me?
[21:28] <flea> NeFaRi0uS: append them to your kernel line
[21:28] <NeFaRi0uS> Thanks will do :D
[21:28] <dusty-sts> Hey guys, i'm using ubuntu gutsy gibbon on a 4gb hdd (mad i know) It has like 5mb left, it has X etc installed.. i just want it basically for apache/bind how can i find out what packages are installed so i can go through them and apt-get uninstall them to make some room?
[21:28] <danonura> i,ve got java installed.here is my "about pluggins" at  but something's not
[21:28] <danonura> frig
[21:29] <czr> dusty-sts, have you run apt-get clean?
[21:29] <rekon> I have an Ipod Nano Silver 4GB and whenever I try to add/edit/ or modify my songs on it with RhythmBox or gtkpod it completely wipes everything off of my Ipod. Any ideas?
[21:29] <czr> dutsy-sts, dpkg -l : lists packages that are installed. apt-cache show package-name : tells you about the package
[21:29] <dusty-sts> czr, thanls
[21:29] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: Reinstall Linux, but this time hook up the ethernet port to a router or something instead of using wireless until it can install wireless.
[21:29] <Niklas_E> is there anything wrong with firefox (both 2 & 3) when you will check email at google?
[21:30] <dusty-sts> czr: sudo: apt-clean: command not found
[21:30] <czr> dusty-sts, apt-get clean.
[21:30] <MrObvious> lol
[21:30] <darkoblivion> hey u guys
[21:30] <thecrono> apt-get search is an invalid function
[21:30] <ThipThip> Anybody have a favorite graphic disk space visualizer?  Something more up-to-date and functional than GDMap?
[21:30] <darkoblivion> i have a hard drive mounted on a folder in /media
[21:30] <darkoblivion> but when i go there
[21:30] <runemaste644> FTANewbie: the answer to all your problems is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990
[21:30] <darkoblivion> its empty, and i can't paste anything in there
[21:30] <MrObvious> thecrono: It's apt-cache search
[21:31] <MrObvious> Darkmystere: What's the folder name?
[21:31] <lapia> LAPIA
[21:31] <scoobiduuu> ??Question?? I'm using Ubuntu Gusty on a laptop Dell Inspiron 2200. Using kernel 2.6.22-14-generic. When I try to setup the power management using gnome power management, after having it setup to automatically suspend or hibernate after an (X) amount of minutes it always does both. (hibernates and suspends) Can anyone offer me any advice....
[21:31] <danonura> pastebin of "about pluggins-hxxp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53237/. i can't get java applet to run
 unfortunately I dont have that capability. I may be able to talk to friends to use their ethernets off their cable or something.
[21:31] <czr> ThipThip, filelight (kde) is pretty nice
[21:31] <darkoblivion> .... /media/Spiderman -_-;;
[21:32] <ThipThip> czr:  I'm using gnome.  Will it run?
[21:32] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: How come you can't do that?
[21:32] <fff> Âñåì ïðèâåò =)
[21:32] <czr> ThipThip, it will, but installing filelight will pull most of the base KDE libraries as well, so you might want to avoid it
[21:32] <runemaste644> write down that link, it has a script that will automatically install the driver
[21:32] <ThipThip> czr:  eh, I think I've already crossed that bridge.
[21:33] <czr> ThipThip, then install away :-). or google for the project homepage and take a look at the screenshots
[21:33] <czr> I like it at least..
[21:33] <ThipThip> czr:  Is there a major disadvantage to doing that apart from the increased HD space use (what irony that in my quest to reduce space usage I'm using more space)
[21:33] <runemaste644> as far as the cable goes, you have about a 500000% chance of having one plugged into your wireless router
[21:33] <ThipThip> czr:  In other words, does having more libraries installed affect performance?
[21:33] <czr> ThipThip, slower updates since you'll have more updates when you have more package (makes sense)
[21:33] <czr> ThipThip, not unless some program uses them (barring serious fragmentation on disk)
[21:34] <fff> À ÒÓÒ ÐÓÑÊÈÅ ÅÑÒÜ ?
[21:34] <fff> ))))
[21:34] <Jack_Sparrow> fff: Please stop
[21:34] <MrObvious> fff: English please.
[21:34] <Darkmystere> Mr)bvious; Huh?
[21:34] <MrObvious> Darkmystere: Use tab completion so I can see your reponses.
[21:34] <MrObvious> !tab
[21:34] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[21:34] <runemaste644> fff: i see you like the character map,
 I don't have access to a ethernet cable or router... I use a satellite dish and use free wifi. I will have to find a friend with a cablemodem or something.
[21:35] <ThipThip> czr:  damn, filelight is gorgeous!
[21:35] <runemaste644> but this isnt the place for that
[21:35] <czr> ThipThip, it has some nifty features too.
[21:35] <Slart> is there a "linux way" to mount a remote folder on a linux system? samba seems like a detour to windows land.. I could use it but I'd rather use a more "native" way... sshfs seems kind of unreliable (for some reason moving lots of files to a file system mounted with sshfs crashes the sshfs client part.. it's been like this on all ubuntu version since edgy)
[21:35] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: Ahh. Maybe you can get the packages and install offline. Lemme try that.
[21:35] <Darkmystere> MrObvious: What file ??
[21:35] <th0r> Slart check sshfs
[21:35] <fff> rashen &
[21:35] <fff> rashen &
[21:35] <czr> ThipThip, I use it to visualize large scattered filesystems (accessed over NFS)
[21:36] <czr> ThipThip, but obviously it's quite useful for smaller disks/spaces as well.
[21:36] <Slart> th0r: thanks for the tip... read the whole question =)
[21:36] <neverblue> ThipThip, installing it now :)
[21:36] <juso> Do vegetarians eat animal crackers?
[21:36] <Kuwanger> Are there any plans for Ubuntu to better support multiple programs using the soundcard simutaneously?
[21:36] <th0r> Slart I have used sshfs for a while now and it seems OK. I also use fusesmb, but that requires samba at the other end (or windows)
[21:36] <ThipThip> Another question: My media players sometimes show purple overly gobbltygook, and only resetting seems to fix it.  What's up with that?
 rune sent a link that looks MUCH MUCH easier for me to do. I just wouldn't know how to ferform the task localy.
[21:36] <fff> ÀÓ ÒÖÒ ÅÑÒÜ ÐÓÑÑÊÈÅ ?
[21:36] <fff> ÀÓ ÒÖÒ ÅÑÒÜ ÐÓÑÑÊÈÅ ?
[21:36] <czr> Kuwanger, yes, in hardy
[21:36] <fff> ÀÓ ÒÖÒ ÅÑÒÜ ÐÓÑÑÊÈÅ ?
[21:36] <rsk> !op
[21:36] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[21:36] <ThipThip> neverblue:  yeah it's nice, and much more functional than GDmap.  It's exactly what I was looking for.  Thanks czr! :-)
[21:36] <th0r> Slart sorry...next time I will write faster and not let the focus switch midway through a sentence. Jeez
[21:37] <czr> ThipThip, enjoy :-)
[21:37] <runemaste644> download it to your windows drive
[21:37] <Slart> th0r: hmm.. I don't like the fact that sshfs consistently crashes when moving many files (when I empty my digital camera for example).. I can do it using the command line and it works ok.. but using nautilus is hopeless
[21:37] <czr> rsk, I got kicked once from ot with that :-)
[21:37] <alpaco> fff: this is an english only channel
[21:37] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: The link I gave you isn't hard at all.
[21:37] <quaal> i'm trying to bind my L/R mouse buttons to go back/forward in a browser in xorg.conf but am having a hard time figuring out which button is associated with which number.. its a 7button mouse. Is there an app that can tell me which is which
[21:37] <neverblue> alpaco, he is gone already :)
[21:37] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: It's only involved.
[21:37] <Slart> th0r: no worries =).. your input is still valued
[21:37] <runemaste644> and hope you get ntfs-3g
[21:38] <runemaste644> or
[21:38] <tomasso> quit
[21:38] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: Download the latest ndiswrapper from here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93482
[21:38] <Beanoes> hello all. running COD4 with wine under gutsy. Not sure if this is the place to discuss this or should I head over to wine?
[21:38] <th0r> Slart I use xfce and thunar and have sshfs set up as a right click one click operation. I use it to move files to my web server, but admit to not having a ton of stuff to move. It does seem slower than fusesmb, but I only have the ssh port open and like that I can get to my server that way
[21:38] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: Are you gonna run Ubuntu 32 or 64 bit?
[21:39] <runemaste644> just download the offline installer at that link i gave you and put it on a flash drive
[21:39] <FTANewbie> MRObvious> 32 bit.
[21:39] <neverblue> Beanoes, try in #winehq
[21:39] <Beanoes> ok thanks, chow
[21:39] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: Oh crud this is harder than I thought. :|
[21:39] <Slart> th0r: perhaps it's just nautilus being bad.. sshfs was just a quick fix since I had ssh setup already... well.. back to google.. thanks
[21:39] <runemaste644> and you can read the flash drive in ubuntu
[21:42] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: You'll just have to get a wired ethernet connection first. Sorry but the guides I'm using aren't showing ways to do it.
[21:42] <YouKnowMe> MrObvious: ok.
[21:42] <Darkmystere> brb
[21:42] <FTANewbie> MrObvious> Cant I just download the installer that rune gave me and put it on a cd or flash and install it that way?
[21:43] <donluigi> My aditional NTFS hard drive is not showing after improper shutdown in ubuntu. Can someone help me?
[21:43] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: Maybe check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990
[21:44] <MrObvious> FTANewbie: Actually you can download it to your C:\ directory and access it through Ubuntu through the Places menu on the taskbar.
[21:44] <runemaste644> thats the link i gave about 15 minutes ago!!!
[21:44] <MrObvious> runemaste644: lol nevermind
 That's the link ...yeah.
[21:44] <runemaste644> lol
[21:44] <MrObvious> LMAO
[21:44]  * MrObvious tries too hard sometimes
[21:45] <amerio> what does that error i get in xine player suppose 2 mean "there is no demuxer available to handle"
[21:45] <runemaste644> well i suggest the flash drive just incase ntfs-3g isnt installed
[21:45] <Slart> !nfs
[21:45] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[21:45] <runemaste644> !ntfs
[21:45] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[21:46] <alpaco> !ntfs
[21:46] <ubuntuo> MrObvious: Im trying to put a song on my ipod on ubuntu, but it says i dont have permission to drag it
[21:46] <ubuntuo> how come?
[21:46] <bkar> what is the relationship between gnome-session and metacity?
[21:46] <MrObvious> !pm > sladen runemaste644
[21:46] <dusty-sts> Anyone know a good tutorial or howto on configuring bind on gusty gibbon?
[21:46] <ikonia> dusty-sts: what do you want to do with bind ?
[21:46] <MrObvious> ubuntuo: Where is the iPod mounted to?
[21:46] <ubuntuo> Drive E:
[21:46] <ubuntuo> its USB MrObvious
[21:47] <MrObvious> ubuntuo: Uhh are you in Windows or Linux?
[21:47] <UnknownUnivers1> Hi will there be a 6.06.2 DESKTOP version?
[21:47] <dusty-sts> ikonia, i want to host a domain i bought, www.blah.co.uk
[21:47] <ubuntuo> im on ubuntu right now
[21:47]  * sladen raises an eyebrow at MrObvious 
[21:47] <runemaste644> bkar: metacity just gives you the window borders mostly, gnome-session gives you everything else
[21:47] <MrObvious> UnknownUnivers1: No, we're on 7.10
[21:47] <ubuntuo> i tried to do it from my Ubuntu
[21:47] <ikonia> dusty-sts: you know you need 2 static IP addresses to host a domains records, yes/no ?
[21:47] <stefano_> i've got a problem with flash, every time i want to watch some sort of flash movie my browser or media-player freezes.
[21:47] <MrObvious> ubuntuo: Where is it mounted in Linux, not Windows?
[21:47] <UnknownUniverse> MrObvious: Why did only the Server version get updated to 6.06.2
[21:47] <ubuntuo> let me check
[21:47] <ubuntuo> one second
[21:47] <suweid> how do I isntall jc? (J programming language interpreter) ?
[21:47] <amerio> what does that error i get in xine player suppose 2 mean "there is no demuxer available to handle"
[21:48] <suweid> It's hard to search Synaptic for "j" ... :)
[21:48] <czr> ikonia, only if you plan to host to Internet and you don't have slaves available
[21:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues > stefano_
[21:48] <ikonia> czr: which is what he wants
[21:48] <MrObvious> UnknownUniverse: No clue. The latest version for install is available for a CD from Ubuntu's site. You might see if sudo apt-get update will pull the latest edition.
[21:48] <czr> ikonia, ah.
[21:48] <UnknownUniverse> fail'ed
[21:48] <stefano_> Jack_Sparrow, i havent made any changes to flash, it was up and running the whole day
[21:49] <bkar> runemaste644-> my trouble somehow started with me remoting in to my box via ssh, issued gnome-session, when I got back to my box, metacity became dysfunctional, windows lock in one place, cant click on any other window,
[21:49] <MrObvious> ubuntuo: Use tab completion (pushing Tab Key) so i can see when someone needs to talk to me. It highlights it on my end when someone types MrObvious.
[21:49] <sladen> ikonia: you don't need two separate IP address for DNS hosting.  Although it is a very sensible thing to do, and several RFC /strongly/ recommend it with the guidelines that they should be on physically separate networks
[21:49] <runemaste644> try pressing alt f2 and typing in metacity
[21:49] <ubuntuo> my tab key doesnt work
[21:49] <bkar> runemaste644-> and now it constantly have the sessions box popping up even if i kill it
[21:50] <ikonia> sladen: try updating the DNS servers to point to 1 ip address, most registrars will block it
[21:50] <dusty-sts> ikonia, yes you do need 2 static names for two dns servers BUT you can get away with using one.
[21:50] <sliver> hi all
[21:50] <dusty-sts> and using a sub domain.
[21:50] <MrObvious> sliver: Hello.
[21:50] <Jack_Sparrow> stefano_: When did you install flash and how was it installed and which browser do you use?
[21:50] <bkar> runemaster644 i tried that metacity --repair and am still with the same problem
[21:50] <amerio> what does that error i get in xine player suppose 2 mean "there is no demuxer available to handle"
[21:50] <sladen> ikonia: I _really_ hope so, yes
[21:50] <dusty-sts> ikonia, its only for if one server goes down, the other can resolve. however i am just testing/playing with dns and my domain and apache so i dont need the redundancy
[21:50] <ikonia> dusty-sts: no - not using a sub domain, speak to your domain registrar
[21:50] <wyclif> question: anyone know what the most popular IRC client is based on freenode traffic?
[21:50] <MrObvious> amerio: Try Googling that error.
[21:50] <ikonia> dusty-sts: it's not redundency, it's a requirment
[21:50] <czr> sladen, most do. at least country-level TLDs
[21:50] <bardyr> !info php5-ffmepg
[21:50] <ubotu> Package php5-ffmepg does not exist in gutsy
[21:51] <dusty-sts> no
[21:51] <dusty-sts> its not required
[21:51] <MrObvious> wyclif: I use XChat and it meets my needs well.
[21:51] <dusty-sts> i've done it before
[21:51] <stefano_> Jack_Sparrow, i think it was installed by firefox when i installed ubuntu (about two years ago), no problems since then. i use epiphany as a browser
[21:51] <amerio> MrObvious I did , but i didnt find a solution for that
[21:51] <sladen> dusty-sts: so delegrate a sub-domain of your own domain.   eg.   testing.dusty.com. IN NS server.dusty.com.
[21:51] <ikonia> dusty-sts: for someone who doesn't know how to setup a dns server - you sure seem pretty confident about what your saying
[21:51] <wyclif> MrObvious: i guess i should ask what is popular amongst the ops ;-)
[21:51] <MrObvious> amerio: I forget what a demuxer is but you could put in Google define: demuxer
[21:51] <Jack_Sparrow> stefano_: DO you have the same problem when you use firefox?
[21:52] <MrObvious> wyclif: XChat seems like the client of choice for most people here. IMO I like irssi in an CLI only option.
[21:52] <stefano_> i'll check it, but as i said i havent made any changes whatsoever, give me a sec to see if firefox works
[21:52] <wyclif> MrObvious I keep seeing Ex-Chat a lot
[21:52] <MrObvious> wyclif: Then everyone uses XChat
[21:52] <MrObvious> .
[21:52] <wyclif> MrObvious yeah...
[21:53] <donluigi> My aditional NTFS hard drive is not showing after improper shutdown in ubuntu. Can someone help me?
[21:53] <Jack_Sparrow> I use konversation.. but I have this disability thing going
[21:53] <stefano_> Jack_Sparrow, yes, in firefox it's the same issue, also in vlc when i play back an flv file
[21:53] <czr> hmm. interesting. after preseeding I got a nice "gnome settings daemon failed to start"-dialog and X had grabben all input into smithereens (had to switch to VT1 and do a reboot). weird.
[21:53] <Flare183> donluigi: you must start windows and then reboot
[21:53] <runemaste644> is it a SATA drive?
[21:53] <runemaste644> or do you have no idea
[21:54] <czr> donluigi, or if you don't have windows, you might want try ntfsfix (or was it fixntfs)
[21:54] <MrObvious> donluigi: It's called an unclean shutdown and I think takes 3 reboots into Windows to fix. Suggested Google: unclean shutdown ntfs3g
[21:55] <donluigi> I dont have windows installed
[21:55] <donluigi> Hos do i work the fixntfs?
[21:55] <runemaste644> then why do you have an ntfs drive in the first place?
[21:55] <donluigi> i used to have windows installed
[21:55] <czr> donluigi, ntfsfix /dev/path/to/your/ntfs/blockdevice
[21:55] <x-X-x> format the whole drive to ext3
[21:55] <x-X-x> donluigi
[21:55] <donluigi> i was working to cleaning my ntfs drive so i could format it into ext3
[21:55] <runemaste644> but never bothered to format as ext3
[21:56] <Tonren> I want to game on Ubuntu.  Is setting up a Virtual XP installation a good idea?
[21:56] <runemaste644> what do you mean by cleaning it
[21:56] <x-X-x> ext3 is the best and it doesnt get as fragmented as ntfs
[21:56] <stefano_> Tonren, no.
[21:56] <donluigi> czr: thank you, let me try that
[21:56] <khamael> Tonren: try #winehq
[21:56] <x-X-x> ext3 still fragments tho
[21:56] <MrObvious> donluigi: mkdir ~/windowsbackupfolder && sudo cp -a /media/ntfsdrive /home/username/windowsbackup folder
[21:56] <MrObvious> donluigi: Then format it.
[21:56] <Tonren> stefano_: Too much resource usage?
[21:56] <bodo_fci> hey people i installed my ubuntu in safe graphic mode and now i wanna install compiz can I?
[21:56] <stefano_> Tonren, no, it just doesnt work
[21:57] <Tonren> stefano_: ... Oh.  :-\
[21:57] <czr> x-X-x, try using bittorrent with multiple simultanous streams and then say that it doesn't fragment (without prealloc)
[21:57] <stefano_> Tonren, virtual machines don't have access to your graphics cards hardware acceleration capabilities
[21:57] <MrObvious> donluigi: Oh wait that won't work since you can't mount it. Try the fixntfs first then do that. lol
[21:57] <Tonren> stefano_: I see.  Harsh.
[21:57] <dusty-sts> ikonia, ?
[21:57] <runemaste644> bodo_fci: you made a big mistake, sorry
[21:57] <donluigi> MrObvious: thanks i will
[21:57] <khamael> Tonren: you can try wine ( #winehq ) for free, or cedega ( #cedega ), which costs money
[21:57] <ikonia> dusty-sts: I've not said anything
[21:57] <MrObvious> donluigi: YW.
[21:58] <runemaste644> install it in regular graphics mode
[21:58] <MrObvious> donluigi: I've done it before. lol
[21:58] <x-X-x> czr i didnt say it doesnt fragment i said it doesnt fragment as much as ntfs it still fragments i know but the most ive seen it fragment is 13%
[21:58] <czr> donluigi, it's ntfsfix still. in package 'ntfsprogs'
[21:58] <dusty-sts> why wont you help me
[21:58] <stefano_> Tonren, for casual gaming wine will do fine i suppose, check out the article on wine in the ubuntu wiki, if you have any problems  theres a channel called #winehq where you can get help.
[21:58] <ikonia> dusty-sts: I am helping you, you won't be able to host your domain
[21:58] <dusty-sts> i remember doing it with one ip before using godaddy
[21:58] <bodo_fci> runemaste644: you mean reinstall
[21:58] <dusty-sts> ikonia, why not has something changed in the past year?
[21:58] <MrObvious> ikonia: What exactly is his problem?
[21:58] <czr> x-X-x, you're correct of course. NTFS is a complicated beast by any measure.
[21:58] <runemaste644> *sigh* yes
[21:58] <runemaste644> or
[21:58] <runemaste644> wait
[21:59] <ikonia> MrObvious: he wants to host a domain's dns records on a 1 ip box
[21:59] <dusty-sts> ikonia, i've done it before but i cant remember how..
[21:59] <runemaste644> first save everything important
[21:59] <ikonia> dusty-sts: join #bind and they will explain the rules and help you bend any you need
[21:59] <dusty-sts> lol
[21:59] <MrObvious> dusty-sts: Why exactly do you want to host DNS records?
[21:59] <dusty-sts> your confusing me, are you saying its NOT possible or just saying its against a rule?
[21:59] <czr> dusty-sts, you probably used godaddy as secondary
[21:59] <x-X-x> czr yeh i will never forget the day i dumped that piece of sht os and the ntfs filesystem and switched completely to linux
[21:59] <dusty-sts> MrObvious, like i said to these i want to play with bind and apache using a domain i bought, not to host a website..
[21:59] <ikonia> dusty-sts: most registrars will not allow 1 dns server per domain
[22:00] <donluigi> Czr: i did the first command you told me... and got an error
[22:00] <bodo_fci> okay okay i'll there is another problem when i enter my ip,gateway,net mask the net doesn't work but when using roaming it work an am sure the numbers are wright
[22:00] <jacob> is there a similar program like aircrack but that support ndiswrapper?
[22:00] <dusty-sts> im not doing it for any real reason, just to play and learn
[22:00] <czr> donluigi, can you paste it into pastebin? (please see topic)
[22:00] <donluigi> Czr: Failed to determine whether /dev/media/sdb1/ntfs/blockdevice is mounted : No such file or directory
[22:00] <dusty-sts> ikonia, i know that, thats why u do ns1. ns2 domain using same ip
[22:00] <ikonia> dusty-sts: thats not the way to learn. Join #bind and they will explain the boundries
[22:00] <runemaste644> then press ctrl alt F1, if it gives you a console, press ctrl alt F7 and tell me it worked
[22:00] <ikonia> dusty-sts: you can't do that
[22:00] <czr> donluigi, ah. just use /dev/sdb1 instead
[22:00] <Goosemoose> hi guys , anyone know if the active directory package that's going into hardy is done?
[22:00] <l-dopa> hello,anyone from greece?
[22:00] <x-X-x> some people say cucumbers taste better pickled
[22:00] <czr> donluigi, it was a bad example ;-)
[22:00] <runemaste644> if you get no console, do ctrl alt f7 anyway
[22:01] <x-X-x> jessica simpson cant rap
[22:01] <runemaste644> and tell me it didnt work
[22:01] <donluigi> czr, will do
[22:01] <MrObvious> Goosemoose: Try #ubuntu+1
[22:01] <oreth> Firefox locks everytime i watch a youtube/flashplayer video
[22:01] <runemaste644> if it doesnt bring you back to your gui, you need to reboot
[22:01] <x-X-x> oreth yeh happens to me too
[22:01] <MrObvious> oreth: Gnash or Adobe flash?
[22:01] <jacob> oreth, i'll help
[22:01] <bodo_fci> oreth: Firefox locks everytime i watch a youtube/flashplayer video me too but after while
[22:01] <x-X-x> oreth u have the newest version of flash installed ?
[22:01] <czr> jacob, no. because ndiswrapper uses windows drivers and they normally do not support 'monitor' mode.
[22:01] <donluigi> czr, ntfsfix /dev/sdb1
[22:02] <donluigi> Mounting volume... Error opening partition device : Permission denied
[22:02] <donluigi> Failed to startup volume : Permission denied
[22:02] <donluigi> FAILED
[22:02] <MrObvious> Youtube works fine here guys.
[22:02] <oreth> whichever one firefox installs
[22:02] <MrObvious> !pastebin > donadie
[22:02] <MrObvious> !pastebin > donluigi
[22:02] <dusty-sts> ikonia, i just remember, im an idiot, i have a block of 8 given to me by my isp useable = 5.
[22:02] <czr> donluigi, please don't paste so many lines here. sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb1
[22:02] <stefano_> Jack_Sparrow, i rebooted the machine, seems to work now. how strange.
[22:02] <x-X-x> oreth: i am waiting for the newest version of flash to be fixed and land in the repo's which is taking forever
[22:02] <runemaste644> sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda1
[22:02] <runemaste644> i mean sdb1
[22:02] <MrObvious> orath: Do you have Ubuntu 32 or 64 bit?
[22:02] <oreth> 32
[22:02] <ikonia> dusty-sts: join #bind and they will explain the requirments
[22:02] <runemaste644> not sda1
[22:02] <bodo_fci>  okay okay i'll there is another problem when i enter my ip,gateway,net mask the net doesn't work but when using roaming it work an am sure the numbers are wright
[22:02] <dusty-sts> ikonia, ok
[22:03] <mneptok> x-X-x: please stop the offtopic pickles and simpson banter
[22:03] <MrObvious> orath: sudo apt-get remove gnash then follow !flash
[22:03] <MrObvious> !flash > oreth
[22:03] <nintendoteenager> im trying to install last.fm but i keep getting this error Only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time
[22:03] <MrObvious> oreth: Whoops I'm misspelling your name sorry.
[22:03] <oreth> MrObvious: no biggy
[22:03] <donluigi> czr, sorry bout the multiple lines...  i got that it was processed succesfully
[22:03] <tiburon> ubuntu.es?
[22:03] <x-X-x> mneptok lol? ubuntu-OFFTOPIC
[22:03] <ompaul> nintendoteenager, you have something like the update manager running at the same time
[22:03] <ikonia> x-X-x: why is that funny ?
[22:03] <ompaul> x-X-x, not right -
[22:03] <mneptok> x-X-x: yes, please. this is #ubuntu
[22:03] <Flare183> !aptlock > nintendoteenager
[22:03] <czr> donluigi, now, try mounting it. pmount /media/sdb1 should work
[22:04] <bodo_fci>  when i enter my ip,gateway,net mask the net doesn't work but when using roaming it work an am sure the numbers are wright
[22:04] <tiburon> alguna pagina en español?
[22:04] <oreth> MrObvious: gnash was not installed
[22:04] <bullgard4> gnomevfs-copy obtains an error "Couldn't get main dbus connection." see http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/31318 How to get rid of this error?
[22:04] <x-X-x> mneptok this chananel is for idle chatter about anything
[22:04] <Flare183> !es | tiburon
[22:04] <ubotu> tiburon: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:04] <l-dopa> hello,åéíáé êáíåéò áðï åëëáäá?
[22:04] <MrObvious> oreth: Hmm.
[22:04] <nintendoteenager> yes how do i close update manager?
[22:04] <MrObvious> l-dopa: English please.
[22:04] <Flare183> nintendoteenager: kill it
[22:04] <oreth> MrObvious: I installed flash by having Firefox install it automatically
[22:04] <donluigi> czr, says only root can mount, how do i go to the root?
[22:05] <Flare183> nintendoteenager: open up the system monitor and kill it
[22:05] <bkar> bodo_fci-> ethernet or wireless?
[22:05] <oreth> donluigi: sudo :P
[22:05] <runemaste644> close the window
[22:05] <MrObvious> oreth: Try the factoid that ubotu PMed you. It'll give you a link to fix it then.
[22:05] <czr> donadie, prepend the command with 'sudo '
[22:05] <Flare183> nintendoteenager: you might have to use gksudo
[22:05] <czr> ah, donluigi I meant :-)
[22:05] <runemaste644> it shouldnt interfere whilst in systray
[22:05]  * czr curses at xchat slightly. and then hugs it.
[22:05] <bodo_fci> bkar, ethernet
[22:05] <donluigi> ah! there it is!
[22:05] <donluigi> czr, thank you... ubuntu just rocks
[22:06] <bkar> bodo_fci-> then remove the x on roaming, you dont roam when you are using ethernet
[22:06] <ozis> hi
[22:06] <donluigi> czr, once i finish backing my drive, how do i format it under ext3?
[22:06] <l-dopa> MrObvious i have i problem installing ubuntu 7.10.my monitor turns to sleep mode when starting install.any help?
[22:06] <bodo_fci> bkar, i do but the net doesn't work after
[22:07] <MrObvious> czr: I got an idea. Settings -> Preferences -> Input Box -> Nick Completion Settings -> Last Spoke
[22:07] <czr> donluigi, you better come back here and ask :-). one step at a time :-)
[22:07] <MrObvious> l-dopa: Try the Ubuntu Alternate CD.
[22:07] <nintendoteenager> whats gksudo??
[22:07] <bkar> bodo_fci-> it should work, check your ip address via command line,  ip a or ifconfig ;  also check your route -n
[22:07] <trym> is there a reason the nginx version on the gutsy rep is 7 months old - security issues etc?
[22:07] <czr> MrObvious, too old xchat here :-)
[22:07] <MrObvious> oreth: You getting it?
[22:07] <oreth> attempting
[22:07] <MrObvious> czr: Update then. :p
[22:08] <czr> MrObvious, I'd rather have a stable system which is rock-solid, thank you.
[22:08] <bodo_fci> bkar, the same numbers of ip works on the other distro of ubuntu
[22:08] <Steve2922> How well are USB wireless cards supported in ubuntu?
[22:08] <MrObvious> nintendoteenager: It's sudo for GUI apps. For example, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf would let you modify the xorg.conf file.
[22:08] <czr> MrObvious, I'll wait for hardy and do a clean reinstall
[22:08] <MrObvious> Steve2922: I think support is pretty decent, about the same as any Linux distro. Got a specific USB card?
[22:08] <nintendoteenager> whats the names of the app im supposed to kill??
[22:09] <bkar> bodo_fci-> yes, but i want you to verify the ip address and the route table
[22:09] <donluigi> czr, will do, thank you so much for your time and help. really appreciate it
[22:09] <czr> donluigi, no problem :-).
[22:09] <bodo_fci> bkar, pu i dunno the exact way to do
[22:09] <mich54> hey guys , i need help with the permissions thing , i just made a new drive (ext3) but i can't access from the GUI bcz um not root , btw um usin gutsy gibson , any ideas ?
[22:10] <Kuwanger> Sorry, I was away.  Who was it who answered my question?
[22:10] <moderatelymodest> mich54: how about changing the ownership of the files on the drive to your user?
[22:10] <MrObvious> Kuwanger: What is your question? lol
[22:10] <l-dopa> MrObvious thank you
[22:10] <Kuwanger> Are there any plans for Ubuntu to better support multiple programs using the soundcard simutaneously?
[22:11] <bkar> bodo_fci-> it should work, check your ip address via command line,  "sudo ip a" or "ifconfig ";  also check your "route -n"
[22:11] <mich54> moderatelymodest: huh ?
[22:11] <Steve2922> MrObvious: Yea, it's a really cheap one I'm thinking about getting off ebay. (let me see if I can find the model)
[22:11] <oreth> MrObvious: it worked to install alsa-oss and set firefox to use that sound plugin
[22:11] <oreth> after that... boom worked
[22:11] <oreth> thanks!
[22:11] <MrObvious> mich54: You could sudo chmod +r /path/to/ext3/drive
[22:12] <MrObvious> oreth: Glad it works. YW
[22:12] <czr> Kuwanger, I answered your question already before.
[22:12] <mich54> yeah , but this for changing the permissions for the files on the drive , i can't put any file on the drive !
[22:13] <Kuwanger> czr: I see. I was away, and the answer scrolled out of the scrollbuffer (though xchat was nice enough to flash telling me someone had answered it).
[22:13] <czr> Kuwanger :-)
[22:13] <nintendoteenager> i killed the updater but i still get the same when trying to install an app
[22:13] <moderatelymodest> mich54: sudo chown user:group /path/to/drive
[22:13] <Kuwanger> czr: What was your answer?
[22:13] <moderatelymodest> where user:group is the name of your user and group and /path/to/drive is the path of the drive
[22:14] <runemaste644> just so i can be sure: when i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg will it not immediately take effect and what is the probability of it not working when i restart X11
[22:14] <czr> Kuwanger, in hardy. I forget the name of the solution. audio or sound something. a soundserver
[22:14] <tiburon> ubuntu en español?
[22:14] <PriceChild> !es | tiburon
[22:14] <ubotu> tiburon: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:14] <runemaste644> #ubuntu-es
[22:14] <bkar> runemaste644-> i would save my working xorg.conf before doing that
[22:15] <mich54> moderatelymodest : thank u so much , it worked !!
[22:15] <runemaste644> me habla no espanol
[22:15] <CygnusX1> Has /etc/iftab been replaced by somethign else in 7.10?
[22:15] <moderatelymodest> no prob mich54, glad to help : )
[22:15] <MrObvious> runemaste644: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.backup first
[22:16] <xoqa> does anyone have the expertise to help me get jack working properly?
[22:16] <MrObvious> runemaste644: If it doesn't work then sudo rm -rf /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:16] <MrObvious> !anyone > xoqa (Read the PM from ubotu please.)
[22:16] <epsi> Hi, does anyone know good history pages telling how linux project was runned in early 1991 to today?
[22:16] <mwe> or just sudo mv, will overwrite the other file :)
[22:17] <moderatelymodest> does anyone have a GeForce4 Ti 4600 or similar? I'm having some strange problems with mine.
[22:17] <epsi> "how things were done", technical information etc
[22:17] <runemaste644> the rm -rf could just be rm ya kno
[22:17] <MrObvious> epsi: wikipedia?
[22:17] <mwe> runemaste644: or left out entirely
[22:17] <NemesisD> anyone know how i'd set up a very simple sendmail installation? I just need to send reports with a local PHP script
[22:17] <MrObvious> mwe: I wasn't sure, thanks.
[22:17] <osiris40> otherwise try sudo rm -Rf /    :p
[22:17] <MrObvious> NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[22:17] <xoqa> MrObvious: ..riight....
[22:17] <moderatelymodest> osiris40: that's not nice : (
[22:17] <MrObvious> !ops
[22:17] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[22:18] <osiris40> sorry
[22:18] <tanath> when i play a last.fm stream i get no audio, but it plays other streams and local music fine. can anyone help?
[22:18] <MrObvious> NEVER DO RM -RF LIKE THAT!
[22:18] <MrObvious> Sorry for caps.
[22:18] <Mez> !feedthetroll
[22:18] <ubotu> The above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.
[22:18] <runemaste644> i kno
[22:18] <MrObvious> Thanks Mez.
[22:19] <epsi> MrObvious: well no, because I need to know how things were organized, but theres nothing about that in wikipedia
[22:19] <bkar> amongst the 3 os I installed unto a virtual box, ubuntu 7.10, open suse 10.3 and fedora 8, fedora seems the quickest at 30 mins flat
[22:19] <MrObvious> bkar: And?.......................
[22:19] <MrObvious> lol
[22:20] <linux__> :)
[22:20] <bkar> well i have 3 os inside a virtual box..
[22:20] <MrObvious> bkar: And I care how? :p
[22:20] <mwe> so you installed three os'; linux, linux, and linux :)
[22:20] <PriceChild> !offtopic | bkar
[22:20] <ubotu> bkar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:21] <Slart> does anyone know if it's possible to make the bash command line (or dash or whatever ubuntu is using) use a keypress as a autocomplete from history - button?.. so I press sudo <F1> and it lists my previous commands starting with sudo?
[22:21] <guidov> i have restricted outside access to ssh to just 1 certain ip by modifying the rules in hosts.allow. can i do the same for apache2 somehow?
[22:22] <MrObvious> Slart: The only thing I can think of is history | grep sudo
[22:22] <Slart> guidov: doesn't apache have a hosts.allow setting also? or you could do it using iptables
[22:22]  * chalcedony smiles
[22:23] <tanath> Slart, hrm, i've been using zsh forever and mine does that with tab
[22:23] <guidov> Slart: i tried, but it remains accessible from any ip
[22:23] <MrObvious> Wow the channel is quiet today. Hmm.
[22:23] <chalcedony> has anyone got a workaround or fix for not having volume control in xmms?
[22:23] <moderatelymodest> bash has history commands, for example !! executes the last command
[22:23] <chalcedony> on feisty
[22:23] <Eyemean> hi, is there a way i can create zip files witha password, i mean wat software can i use?
[22:23] <Slart> MrObvious: yes.. that's what I've been using.. for those few occasions.. I'm just looking for something abit more convinient
[22:23] <wyclif> anybody use gFTP? read the man page and Googled, but simple config seems obtuse
[22:23] <Slart> tanath: hmm.. I get filename completion with tab.. perhaps a setting somewhere
[22:24] <Slart> guidov: then you're not doing it right =).. using iptables works if you do it right
[22:24] <azexian> vermux success?
[22:24] <theLichKing> !pastebin > theLichKing
[22:24] <runemaste644> what were you sayin before osiris40rudely interrupted
[22:24] <wyclif> i just wanna do one simple thing
[22:24] <tanath> Slart, er, yeah. sorry. but if you type the beginning of your command, then press up, it'll keep the first part you typed
[22:24] <MrObvious> Eyemean: I'm sure just a default zip works fine.
[22:24] <Vermux> azexian: so far, yes
[22:24] <tanath> Slart, sounds like what you want
[22:24] <azexian> vermux so it hasn't crashed?
[22:24] <Eyemean> mrobvious, but if i want to put password?
[22:24] <Vermux> azexian: but I have a new problem. and it happaned also last time when I installed
[22:24] <guidov> Slart: yeah i know, i was talking about hosts.allow. guess then the only option is to use iptables, tnx
[22:24] <Slart> tanath: nope.. it just goes to my previous command.... regardless of what I've typed so far
[22:24] <Vermux> azexian: so far: no
[22:24] <azexian> vermux what problem?
[22:25] <tanath> Slart, pressing up scrolls back through your history
[22:25] <Slart> guidov: ah.. sorry.. misunderstood
[22:25] <tanath> Slart, i use zsh, and it has a setting for that
[22:25] <wyclif> how do i config gFTP so that my /home dir is in the L pane and my http:// dir on the right?
[22:25] <Vermux> azexian: I got the following message: there was an error commiting changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages
[22:25] <MrObvious> Eyemean: Oh you want a password?
[22:25] <Vermux> azexian: after applying all updates
[22:25] <tanath> Slart, it doesn't clear what you've typed, it matches that to the history of commands
[22:25] <Slart> tanath: ah.. sorry.. ok.. dash just goes to the previous command.. so.. zsh sounds nice
[22:25] <Eyemean> yes mrobvious
[22:25] <iarwain1> Hiya, is there anyone here who knows of a way to get aterm NOT showing up in the taskbar?
[22:25] <azexian> vermux try at the command line sudo apt-get -f isntall
[22:26] <moderatelymodest> slart: maybe http://www.talug.org/events/20030709/cmdline_history.html could help?
[22:26] <Vermux> azexian: I want to check exactly what was the problem
[22:26] <Eyemean> i want to add a password wen i create a zip file mrobvious
[22:26] <tanath> Slart, i have a complicated customized preferences file though... can't seem to find it at the moment though
[22:26]  * Slart reads about "using bash history"
[22:26] <azexian> vermux that means that it's not configuring the packages, so there's an error, that command will fix problems that it can, but it might be you need to dpkg --force it
[22:27] <moderatelymodest> basically ctrl+r enters history search mode
[22:27] <MrObvious> Eyemean: add the -P option to your zip command.
[22:27] <moderatelymodest> and then what you type is looked up in history
[22:27] <tanath> Slart, but yes, you can set your default shell to zsh and customize the crap out of it. i'll see if i can find that setting
[22:27] <MrObvious> Eyemean: But it's not very secure. A better option might be a 7zip or even encrypting the file.
[22:28] <solexious> [Q] Are drivers tagged as "redhat" and "suse" most likely compatable with ubuntu?
[22:28] <runemaste644> k im going to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[22:28] <runemaste644> of course not!
[22:28] <azexian> vermux I can't stay around for too long, can you try and find out the package that has the error? it's proably tzdata, but if you could find out, the apt-get -f install will show you which one has the troubles
[22:28]  * Slart finds lots of new ways to use bash/dash
[22:28] <Eyemean> mrobvious, its only to just upload some files for a friend so he can download them when he wants them, nothing major
[22:28] <solexious> rune: was that to me?
[22:28] <Vermux> azexian: ok, I will exe the command
[22:29] <MrObvious> Eyemean: Hang on. I got the terminal output you want:
[22:29] <Slart> ok.. I found a wonderful new key command.. ctrl-r puts bash in history search mode.. just what I was looking for =)
[22:29] <MrObvious>  zip -P blah -r Videos/ . -i videos.zip
[22:29] <trym> is there a reason the nginx version on the gutsy rep is 7 months old - security issues etc?
[22:29] <azexian> vermux ok :)
[22:29] <Eyemean> ok mrobvious
[22:29] <MrObvious> Eyemean: Notice it has a . in there.
[22:29] <Eyemean> cheers mrobvious
[22:30] <tanath> Slart, hm. pressing up is simpler, but if that works for you...
[22:30] <tiburon> #ubuntu.es
[22:30] <tanath> Slart, i believe i found it though
[22:30] <Vermux> azexian: I did that, it gave information
[22:30] <azexian> vermux ok, can you see which package/packages fail ?
[22:31] <azexian> vermux if not either pm it to me, or stick it in pastebox and I will read it
[22:31] <MrObvious> Eyemean: Maybe not. But man zip has more info. I never make archives anyway so I'm not sure. :(
[22:31] <Vermux> libqt3-mt...
[22:31] <mwe> tanath: well using ctrl-r might make sense searching for a command 30 lines back in history :)
[22:31] <Slart> tanath: hehe.. it seems bash has some nice "hidden" features though..  I've got quite a way to go to become a bash-guru it seems
[22:32] <prakriti> i'm trying to pick an apache-mpm
[22:32] <moderatelymodest> I just love !! for when I do something and then realise that I needed sudo
[22:32] <Vermux> it asks me qt_plugins_3_3.3rc (Y/I/N/0/D/Z?
[22:32] <Vermux> azexian: ^
[22:32] <tanath> mwe, with zsh, i just type a few chars, or the command, and press up, and it scrolls back only through those commands matching that beginning
[22:32] <azexian> vermux I replied :P
[22:32] <Vermux> ok
[22:32] <chaosrl> is it possible to run a copy of vista that's already installed as a physical machine in a virtual machine?
[22:32] <Vermux> thanks
[22:32] <azexian> oh, soz, missed it :p
[22:32] <mwe> tanath: I see. cool
[22:32] <prakriti> does anybody know what the differences are?
[22:32] <azexian> vermux press why
[22:33] <mwe> tanath: but zsh scripting is different, isn't it?
[22:33] <MrObvious> Eyemean: Maybe I'm backwards. Lemme play with it.
[22:33] <azexian> vermux letter 'y' not word (autocorrect :p)
[22:33] <Vermux> azexian: it's done
[22:33] <azexian> vermux so it's finished?
[22:33] <Vermux> yes
[22:33] <Vermux> how do I check that everything is fine now?
[22:33] <azexian> then you now have a working kubuntu installation :p
[22:33] <Eyemean> yeah i persoanlly prefer rar files mrobvious
[22:34] <Lattyware> Hey all. I booted up my PC to be greeted by a Grub error 17, I attempted to reinstall Grub via a 7.04 live CD (grub>root>setup), but it clamed it could not find any devices. I tried mounting the drive and it cirtainly exists.
[22:34] <azexian> just type sudo apt-get -f install again to make sure all packages are fine, if there's nothing then everything is fine :)
[22:34] <MrObvious> Eyemean: I got it now.
[22:34] <tanath> mwe, yeah, it can be complicated, but it's very powerful and flexible
[22:34] <MrObvious> Eyemean: cd to the directory you want to zip, then zip -P password zipfilename *
[22:34] <Eyemean> shot mrobvious
[22:35] <solexious> [Q] Are drivers tagged as "redhat" and "suse" most likely compatable with ubuntu?
[22:35] <MrObvious> Eyemean: Or just zip -P password zipfilename file
[22:35] <mwe> tanath: I see
[22:35] <Cpudan80> solexious: Probably
[22:35] <Cpudan80> solexious: I'd go for the redHat one over the SuSE one
[22:35] <MrObvious> Are there any good file encryption utilities?
[22:35] <theLichKing> i have a question
[22:35] <Cpudan80> A debian one would be good
[22:36] <Lattyware> MrObvious: TrueCrypt
[22:36] <Vermux> azexian: ok
[22:36] <theLichKing> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53248/
[22:36] <Pie-rate> somehow 2.6.22-14-386 got installed instead of -generic, will that cause any problems?
[22:36] <Cpudan80> MrObvious: GPG
[22:36] <Vermux> azexian: one more thing
[22:36] <solexious> Cpudan80: Cool, will do
[22:36] <azexian> vermux yes?
[22:36] <Vermux> azexian: something that caused me a lot of problems reccently
[22:36] <theLichKing> the result was 99.999.. but when i changed the float to double, it came out as 100.. why is that?
[22:36] <azexian> vermux yes?
[22:36] <sixpence> How do I figure out what ubuntu i'm on? Feisty, gutsy or whatever?
[22:36] <now3d> Hi. Could someone point me  at info for getting my USBstick to boot? I get Error 17 when I try and boot it after installing Ubuntu on it!
[22:37] <Vermux> azexian: I want to change the resolution, to make the icons bigger. Why when I change the resolution from 1280x1024 to 1024x768 and click apply, it doesnt change?
[22:37] <mwe> sixpence: type lsb_release -a in a term
[22:37] <chaosrl> is the only way to run a physical machine as a virtual machine to clone it (take up double hard drive space)?
[22:37] <Lattyware> Hey all. I booted up my PC to be greeted by a Grub error 17, I attempted to reinstall Grub via a 7.04 live CD (grub>root>setup), but it clamed it could not find any devices. I tried mounting the drive and it cirtainly exists, I have not done anything since it was last working. Really rather annoying, on another PC ATM.
[22:37] <x-X-x> i installed unreal tournament on ubuntu 7.10 and when playing the game i have a wierd stripped box over lighting and i have no idea why : http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot00000mb4.png
[22:37] <MrObvious> Lattyware: Cpudan80: I've heard of those a lot but never really had a need to encrypt but now I might so I just want an accountant for example to encrypt the file, then I can decrypt it after it's e-mailed. Do those programs do that like that?
[22:37] <Vermux> azexian: after I click Apply it asks me if to keep it, but it didnt change anything
[22:37] <azexian> vermux that is odd, just as a side note, if you right click on an icon, and click resize, you can drag it to any size you want
[22:37] <x-X-x> http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot00002yc7.png
[22:38] <x-X-x>  can someone help fix it ?
[22:38] <Cpudan80> MrObvious: GPG can encrypt virtually anything
[22:38] <azexian> vermux try, on command: sudo xrandr -s 1024x768
[22:38] <limp> if my wireless card uses a restricted driver what does this mean? can my internet be slower? (it's running fast on this computer, but slow on the newly installed computer using a restricted driver)
[22:38] <hashalotz> Hi guys, I can't seem to get the java plugin running in Firefox (Gutsy X64)
[22:38] <Vermux> azexian: ok, but in general I wanted to change the resolution
[22:38] <Cpudan80> MrObvious: Generally, to do E-mail, you need some plugin to use encryption with your E-mail client --- you can use firegpg with gmail
[22:38] <Lattyware> MrObvious: TrueCrypt is more suited for personal encryption.
[22:38] <azexian> vermux try the command
[22:38] <chaosrl> hashalotz: what are you trying right now for  java?
[22:38] <hashalotz> limp, define 'the internet'. Firefox?
[22:38] <mwe> Lattyware: error 17 is the most annoying grub error since it means unspcified disk error
[22:39] <sixpence> Thanks!
[22:39] <donluigi> Czr, i just finished backing up one of my ntfs drives, how do i do the switch to ext3?
[22:39] <Lattyware> Indeed. Normally reinstalling Grub does it, but It won't even do that.
[22:39] <hashalotz> chaosrl, I am using apt-get to get the java6 packages.
[22:39] <hashalotz> The plugin, however, is not listed.
[22:39] <Vermux> azexian: nothing happaned
[22:39] <czr> donluigi, someone else should be able to help you :-). I need to cook some food & sleep now. good luck though :-)
[22:39] <chaosrl> hashalotz: have you tried using blackdown?
[22:39] <limp> hashalotz, yes. This is weird why would an intel card be in restricted?
[22:39] <donluigi> czr, thank you, good luck
[22:39] <Eyemean> yeah the * one wrked for me mrbovious, cheers
[22:39] <hashalotz> chaosrl: no, not yet.
[22:39] <MrObvious> Cpudan80: Which encryption methods can I use? Can I use something ludacriously strong?
[22:39] <Lattyware> I did just water cool my rig, and move where each drives were plugged in, but with UUIDs that should not have been a problem, and besides, I have booted fine since then.
[22:39] <donluigi> Can anyone help me format an ntfs drive to ext3?
[22:39] <MrObvious> Lattyware: I might try it. Is it in apt-get?
[22:40] <Vermux> azexian: I guess I will leave it the way it is
[22:40] <Eyemean> cheers mrobvious
[22:40] <Cpudan80> MrObvious: GPG is very good
[22:40] <azexian> vermux that is strange, I suggest you go into system --> administration --> screen (might be in prefs) and in there set your monitor to the correct make and model, then it might be more succesful
[22:40] <chaosrl> hashalotz, give blackdown a try; it's what i've been using on my 64bit install
[22:40] <Cpudan80> MrObvious: Just accept all the defaults
[22:40] <mwe> Lattyware: I wonder why you can't reinstall grub
[22:40] <hashalotz> I see only j2re1.4, no plugin.
[22:40] <Lattyware> MrObvious: As I said, TrueCrypt is more suited to personal use, Encrypting something on your drive for later acess. It could work the other way, but try GPG first, I'd say.
[22:40] <Lattyware> mwe: It says it can't find any devices when I try.
[22:41] <mwe> Lattyware: odd. how did you try. manually or intall-grub?
[22:41] <Lattyware> Both.
[22:41] <azexian> vermux does that work?
[22:41] <mwe> hmm
[22:41] <chaosrl> hashalotz gimme a sec, let me see exactly what i have
[22:41] <Lattyware> They both give something like 'The device does not exist or is not a block device'
[22:41] <Vermux> azexian: cant find it
[22:41] <Lattyware> from memory.
[22:42] <chaosrl> hashalotz: i believe the package j2re1.4 includes plugins for firefox and netscape
[22:42] <Xargon> hello
[22:42] <azexian> vermux system --> administrataion --> screens and graphics
[22:42] <Xargon> how can i install my wi-fi usb dongle?
[22:42] <Xargon> it's the nintendo one, simply an ASUS Buffalo
[22:42] <mwe> Lattyware: did try running the grub shell by typing grub then type root(hd <-- then type tab for posibilies?
[22:43] <iarwain1> Hiya, is there anyone here who knows of a way to get aterm NOT showing up in the taskbar?
[22:43] <Vermux> azexian: u mean, monitor and display?, hardware?
[22:43] <Lattyware> Xargon: As unhelpful as this may be, I will give the same advice as I give everyone else: Get a Wireless Access Point/Bridge - they make wireless networking a lot easier. (Sorry if not helpful, but I thought I'd mention it.)
[22:43] <Lattyware> mwe: Yeah. Gave me nothing.
[22:43] <wyclif> iarwain1 are you running Ubuntu?
[22:43] <azexian> vermux sorry, you use kubuntu, yes monitor and display, I use gnome, so everything is different :p
[22:43] <mwe> weird
[22:43] <luckyone> I need help setting up the following: ath0 connects to the network. device connects to eth0 which connects to network via ath0
[22:43] <iarwain1> wyclif: i'm running it on my other pc (don't have interwubz yet)
[22:43] <Xargon> Lattyware, yes but i have paid for it :(
[22:44] <Lattyware> Xargon: Indeed, Just my recomendation from experience with PCI wireless cards and WAPs.
[22:44] <iarwain1> wyclif: may i ask why?
[22:44] <wyclif> iarwain1 where is an aterm tab showing up?
[22:44] <Lattyware> mwe: Indeed. And highly annoying.
[22:44] <CaBlGuY> ok, I'm still having issues with flash..  I've got 32bit Gutsy installed and I have a AMD 64 bit CPU.. any help at all.. this is time #3..  I would like to take care of this tonight if I can..
[22:44] <Pie-rate> hehe, installing windows dual-boot for a customer... "The most secure windows yet!"
[22:44] <Pie-rate> the install screen is a good laugh
[22:44] <Xargon> Lattyware, there is no way to let it work?
[22:44] <hashalotz> chaosrl: installed, not working.
[22:44] <iarwain1> wyclif: on the taskbar (i use KDE)
[22:45] <wyclif> iarwain1 just asking if you were running that or kubuntu
[22:45] <wyclif> iarwain1 ah
[22:45] <iarwain1> wyclif: ahh, Kubuntu. Is there another channel for that?
[22:45] <azexian> CaBIGuy what is going wrong?
[22:45] <mwe> Lattyware: and you're saying the live cd detects the hdds ok?
[22:45] <Vermux> azexian: ok, this is the problem: and it happaned also last time after I install: I cant get into administrative mode in order to change these things now.
[22:45] <wyclif> iarwain1 i tend to assume everybody uses Terminal ;-)
[22:46] <now3d> Could someone point me to info on getting my Laptop external USBStick working?
[22:46] <iarwain1> wyclif: nah, aterm is light-weight :-)
[22:46] <Pie-rate> ooooh! "Your computer will be faster and more reliable" Windows(R) XP runs your programs more quickly and reliably than ever!
[22:46] <Pie-rate> Now it's talking about hardware compatability, that's a low blow.
[22:46] <wyclif> iarwain1 yeah
[22:46] <azexian> vermux that is odd, have you set your password right, what is the error you get when you try?
[22:46] <Pie-rate> not that it even supports anything at all out of the box, it just has a monopoly
[22:46] <CaBlGuY> azexian,  well, I've got flash installed but, it's not working.. and I've also installed the alt. option for flash plugin and no go on web pages with it either..
[22:46] <chaosrl> hashalotz: sorry then, i'm not too knowledgable on this stuff, but i'd recommend you to try IcedTea
[22:46] <mwe> Pie-rate: lol
[22:46] <Pie-rate> i'll stop spamming now, windows install is just so funny though
[22:47] <chaosrl> hashalotz: check here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580792&highlight=icedtea
[22:47] <azexian> CaBIGuY sometimes you need to install, hangon..
[22:47] <azexian> !flash
[22:47] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:47] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[22:47] <simmerz> what is the best way to get PAE support on an ubuntu desktop?
[22:47] <dam_> hey everyone I gotta prblm with my soud
[22:47] <CaBlGuY> azexian,  already been there and done all that...
[22:47] <Vermux> azexian: maybe I need to set the root password first?
[22:47] <Pie-rate> dam_: what's your problem?
[22:47] <Gareth_> ugh
[22:47] <Scunizi> !root | Vermux
[22:47] <ubotu> Vermux: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:47] <mwe> !sound | dam_
[22:47] <azexian> vermux if you like, command is sudo passwd root
[22:47] <ubotu> dam_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:48] <Lattyware> Anyway
[22:48] <Vermux> azexian: it's just dont aks me for the password anymore, only once
[22:48] <Lattyware> mwe: Any ideas?
[22:48] <CaBlGuY> azexian,  I would love to get it working tonight as I've been dealing with this now for some time and I REALLY don't want to go back to using windowz for somehting simple like this..
[22:48] <PodMan99a> hey all ... any one have a linux patch or firmware update to resolve the issue with TSST-TS632D
[22:48] <azexian> vermux that's what it should do, once per session
[22:48] <iarwain1> wyclif: you know anything?
[22:48] <mwe> Lattyware: you're saying the live cd detects the hdds ok?
[22:48] <dam_> I have a soud systeme directly into my board but I also have a sound card
[22:48] <PointyThingsHurt> My friend seems to have somehow lost access to sudo, is there anything he can do?
[22:48] <dam_> both work
[22:48] <dam_> but they radomly change
[22:48] <mwe> PointyThingsHurt: yes
[22:48] <azexian> CaBIGuY fair enough, have you tried the package for debian?
[22:48] <Lattyware> mwe: Yeah, I can mount them and see everything on them. (My first thought was that one of my disks had died)
[22:49] <peanutwithchocol> please, help, i cant exit from bitchx (i don't know how to leave
[22:49] <x-X-x_> i just installed unreal tournament 2004 on linux and there are stripped boxes over lighting when playing the game 1: http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot00002yc7.png    2: http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot00000mb4.png
[22:49] <x-X-x_>  can someone help me fix this ?
[22:49] <MrObvious> Lattyware: Got GPG to work. �Gm�`�0�F�[0�c�}Nv>>�qѷ�)�r ~��f�%
[22:49] <MrObvious> �Z���Oĺ
[22:49] <mwe> Lattyware: even more weird, then
[22:49] <moderatelymodest> does anyone have any tips on diagnosing 3d video problems?
[22:49] <PodMan99a> TSST-TS632D is a DVD drive from samsung which caused problems... only FWupdate i can find is windows based
[22:49] <dam_> I'll have my sound on the board onece then I'll have on the sound card the next
[22:49] <mwe> Lattyware: I'm out of ideas I think. maybe someone else
[22:49] <Vermux> azexian: yes, but I cant change the things I need to. it seems it is not in Administrative mode.
[22:49] <Pie-rate> windows install is so slow, i'm used to having OSes installed and updated in under 30 minutes
[22:49] <PointyThingsHurt> mwe: Ok, any idea what?
[22:49] <azexian> x-X-x same here actually... it think you need to install 64bit perhaps
[22:49] <Lattyware> peanutwithchocol: /quit
[22:49] <simmerz> what is the best way to get PAE support on an ubuntu desktop?
[22:49] <Lattyware> mwe: Thanks anyway
[22:49] <CaBlGuY> azexian,  actually, it would be the same package as ubuntu is based off of Deb anyway..   I beleieve what my issue is si my 64bit CPU...  anyone else that has this issue and fixed it, I would LOVE to hear from you..
[22:49] <azexian> Vermux you could try working out the command, then doing sudo?
[22:49] <peanutwithchocol> Lattyware: thanks
[22:49] <Vermux> azexian: also, I loged out and logged in again and it doesnt ask me for passwd
[22:50] <mwe> PointyThingsHurt: help Lattyware fix his weird grub problem
[22:50] <x-X-x_> azexian u too ? omg havent u found a way of fixing it
[22:50] <x-X-x_> ?
[22:50] <azexian> CaBIGuY you are not using 64bit though, so it is unimportant, I use 64bit, works for me :p
[22:50] <hashalotz> chaosrl: you set me off in the right direction, thanks 1,000,000
[22:50] <CaBlGuY> azexian,  ok, so, how did you get it to work then??  *takes out notpad*
[22:50] <azexian> x-X-X haven't really tried, did you install the right version, e.g 64bit for 64bit, I've reasontly change cpu, so I guessed this would be it
[22:51] <chaosrl> hashalotz: np, sorry i couldn't help more (me=pretty noobish) :P
[22:51] <azexian> CaBIGuY I'm afraid I'm not much use, I just clicked on the package :s, what browser are you using?
[22:51] <Lattyware> Hey all. I booted up my PC to be greeted by a Grub error 17, I attempted to reinstall Grub via a 7.04 live CD (grub>root>setup), but it clamed it could not find any devices. I tried mounting the drive and it cirtainly exists, I have not done anything since it was last working. Really rather annoying, on another PC ATM.
[22:52] <limp> Why is Firefox very slow on my new computer. But works fine on this computer. Could it be that the new computer uses a restricted driver for the wireless card?
[22:52] <CaBlGuY> azexian,  firefox and which package did you "click on"??
[22:52] <mhrnjad> Lattyware: what is fdisk -l saying ?
[22:52] <azexian> Lattyware if you boot from a different drive, e.g secondary instead of primary, then you will find that the order changes, if you type in root(hd--tab that should show you some, you can do it in ubuntu by typing grub
[22:53] <Lattyware> azexian: It shows no drives when I do root(hd-tab-
[22:53] <azexian> CaBIGuY I'm afraid it was on a forum :s, ubuntu one, someone gave at as a fix, since then it has been put it to the officals though...
[22:53] <mhrnjad> Lattyware: does the system recognize hour hard disk?
[22:53] <x-X-x_> anyone know how i can fix the stripped boxes over lighting i get when playing unreal tournament 2004
[22:53] <Lattyware> mhrnjad: Lists all the devices fine.
[22:53] <azexian> Lattyware try running grub within the live cd, when booted
[22:53] <Lattyware> azexian: That's what I did.
[22:54] <azexian> lattyware did you run it as root? sudo grub
[22:54] <mhrnjad> did you try grub-install ?
[22:54] <CaBlGuY> azexian,  well hell..  your no dam good r ya..  :p   your post to bookmark stuff like that just in case a situation like this comes up..  ;)
[22:54] <Lattyware> mhrnjad: Yes, no luck.
[22:54] <Tihomme> hello
[22:54] <azexian> CaBIGuY lol :P
[22:54] <mwe> Lattyware: hey you did a type I think
[22:54] <moderatelymodest> x-X-x: have you checked the ut2k4-forums? I seem to remember seeing something like your problem there.
[22:54] <Lattyware> azexian: I did.
[22:54] <mhrnjad> Lattyware: did grub-install print any errors?
[22:55] <CaBlGuY> ok, next person in line please step up to help me with my flash issue..   :0)
[22:55] <Lattyware> mhrnjad: Something like 'Device does not exist or is not a block device'
[22:55] <mwe> Lattyware: you need to type root (hd<tab>. note the space after root
[22:55] <mwe> Lattyware: if you don't it wont work
[22:55] <Lattyware> mwe: Yeah, I did do the space, just lazines
[22:55] <Lattyware> *laziness
[22:55] <x-X-x_> moderatelymodest if u could link my id be very grateful
[22:55] <azexian> vermux did you try that?
[22:55] <Lattyware> sorry
[22:55] <Vermux> I dont know how
[22:55] <CaBlGuY> anyone..  anyone??
[22:56] <mhrnjad> Lattyware: do a 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' and see whether your hard disk and the partition table are intact..
[22:56] <Vermux> azexian: how?
[22:56] <Lattyware> CaBlGuY: From Topic: Adobe Flash install is currently broken, see « /msg ubotu flash » ?
[22:56] <azexian> ok, right click on the thing you want to launch, and click properties, in there is the command to launch it, copy that into the command prompt, delete gksudo, and just put sudo, it will ask you for a password, type in yours, and your in admin hopefully :s
[22:56] <simmerz> what is the best way to get PAE support on an ubuntu desktop??
[22:57] <Lattyware> mhrnjad: They are, I can mount it all.
[22:57] <azexian> vermux soz, missed your name, did you see it?
[22:57] <CaBlGuY> Lattyware,  indeed, I saw that but, why would azexian  be working?  Has to be a fix out there someowhere if he foudn it..
[22:57] <Vermux> sudo
[22:58] <azexian> CaBIGuY I do run 64bit ubuntu though, you run 32bit, remember that, you're not running a 64bit processor on 32bit linux
[22:58] <azexian> vermux got it?
[22:58] <askand> Is there a way to run a command a specific time from now?
[22:58] <mhrnjad> Lattyware: did you specify the root partition mount path (with --root-directory) when you invoked grub-install ?
[22:58] <dam_> I've got 2 different sound inputs which change randomly when a I turn on mt computer how can I make it stable into one input ??
[22:58] <azexian> !crone > askand
[22:58] <mwe> askand: yes
[22:58] <Vermux> azexian: NO, - RIGHT CLICK is the same as left clikc, I dont know why
[22:58] <Lattyware> mhrnjad: No.
[22:58] <mwe> askand: or sleep 100; command
[22:58] <azexian> vermux click and drag it onto the desktop, then try
[22:59] <CaBlGuY> azexian,  well, I changed BACK to 32 bit because 64 bit was giving me the same problem and someone told me if I switched back, I wouldn't have the problem, so, as you can see, I've been in both places sir..
[22:59] <johnathon> hello?
[22:59] <askand> mwe: where 100 is seconds?
[22:59] <mwe> askand: right
[22:59] <Vermux> azexian: nothing happans when I drag it
[22:59] <kitche> !hi | johnathon
[22:59] <ubotu> johnathon: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[22:59] <azexian> CaBIGuY most unlucky (much like your hard to type name :p)
[22:59] <Vermux> azexian: Monitor & Display
[23:00] <mwe> askand: you can you sleep 100m to wait 100 minutes
[23:00] <azexian> vermux ok, let's find the command (it is diff on kubuntu, that's my excuss for not knowing :p)
[23:00] <johnathon> i need sum help wit ubuntu
[23:00] <mwe> askand: or sleep 100h even
[23:00] <ZeeO> hey guys I have been having this issue copying text from websites and stuff like that seems some fonts you just can't copy when you past you get just ŸŸ
[23:00] <x-X-x__> moderatelymodest can u tell me what forum ?
[23:00] <CaBlGuY> azexian,  all you have to do is type the first couple letters and hit the tab key and it will pop up.. or you can choose it from a list..  which ever..
[23:00] <ZeeO> got some ideas what I can do to fix this its driving me crazy
[23:00] <johnathon> how can i find the driver for my sound card?
[23:00] <askand> mwe: thanks
[23:00] <azexian> askand, crone will run a command every min/hour/day/week/month that you want
[23:00] <mwe> askand: or sleep 365d to wait a year
[23:00] <mhrnjad> Lattyware: sorry. my xchat crashed..
[23:01] <Lattyware> mhrnjad: No Problem. No, I did not do that.
[23:01] <azexian> CaBlGuY: cheers, never realised :p
[23:01] <CaBlGuY> see..  :)
[23:01] <Darkmystere> is there a channel for partion magic im trying to make free space Yes i know i could use Gparted but it had some problems >.>
[23:01] <askand> mwe: so like.. sleep 10m && killall amsn for eccample?
[23:01] <mwe> askand: right
[23:01] <Darkmystere> brb
[23:02] <CaBlGuY> I'm asking in the "official" flash channel as well..  so, hopefully, someone will be able to help somewhere..
[23:02] <azexian> Darkmystere: try gparted live, it should work
[23:02] <iarwain1> ZeeO: Don't know if it'll help, but the only time i saw that when i was running Vbox. Are you?
[23:02] <x-X-x__> anyone know how i can fix the stripped boxes over lighting i get when playing unreal tournament 2004  http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot00000mb4.png
[23:02] <x-X-x__>  http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot00002yc7.png
[23:02] <johnathon> can any one help me find my driver for my sound card i just started using ubuntu the other day cuz i got sick of windows
[23:02] <lm2> hi guys
[23:02] <azexian> x-X-x_ try patching
[23:02] <x-X-x__> johnathon use alsa
[23:03] <johnathon> alsa?
[23:03] <Lattyware> mhrnjad: Again? No, I did not do that.
[23:03] <x-X-x__> azexian patching where ?
[23:03] <tiburon> alguien conoce una pagina en español
[23:03] <Lattyware> ...
[23:03] <lm2> how can i put mi irda functioning properly in my acer notebook
[23:03] <Darkmystere> azexian: didnt help lol
[23:03] <Lattyware> I think he has a problem with being highlighted...
[23:03] <azexian> x-X-x_ the offical patch
[23:03] <x-X-x__> johnathon search alsa on google and find what card u have and see if they support it
[23:03] <johnathon> x-X-X_ whats alsa?
[23:03] <johnathon> o ok
[23:04] <azexian> Darkmystere: erm...
[23:04] <x-X-x__> u dont need to install drivers johnathon. drivers are preinstalled on ubuntu
[23:04] <azexian> Vermux I'm sorry I have to go, good luck, I will be on tomorrow I can help you more then :)
[23:04] <Vermux> azexian: ok, thanks
[23:04] <Vermux> bye
[23:04] <azexian> vermux np, hope you enjoy :)
[23:04] <johnathon> x-X-x_ so what if it didnt install my sound card?
[23:04] <chaosrl> would anyone know if it's possible to run a physical machine as a virtual machine without converting it (a.k.a. be able to boot from it as well as run it as a virtual machine)?
[23:05] <tiburon> alguna pagina en español?
[23:05] <aperezaranda> hi all
[23:05] <PriceChild> !es | tiburon
[23:05] <ubotu> tiburon: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:05] <x-X-x__> johnathon do u know the manufacturer of your card ? creative, etc... ?
[23:05] <tiburon> gracias
[23:05] <lm2> hi
[23:05] <mwe> chaosrl: afaik, it's not.
[23:05] <johnathon> um not really
[23:06] <x-X-x__> you using ubuntu 7.10 gutsy gibbon ? johnathon ?
[23:06] <Lattyware> Hey all. I booted up my PC to be greeted by a Grub error 17, I attempted to reinstall Grub via a 7.04 live CD (grub>root>setup), but it clamed it could not find any devices. I tried mounting the drive and it cirtainly exists, I have not done anything since it was last working. Really rather annoying, on another PC ATM.
[23:06] <aperezaranda> I have got a very rare problem with ipw3945 on Gutsy Gibbon
[23:06] <lm2> how can i put my acer laptop function correctly with infrared
[23:06] <johnathon> x-X-x_ when i open device manager it just say i8042 aux port
[23:06] <ali> hi room i am a new user to ubuntu
[23:06] <aperezaranda> This wifi card is on Dell XPS 13"
[23:06] <chaosrl> mwe: oh sad. ok, thanks! do you have much experience with virtual machines?
[23:06] <limp> How bad is it if my wireless card's driver is a restricted driver? is the chance of malfunction hi?
[23:06] <johnathon> x-X-x_ im using breezy
[23:06] <limp> high*
[23:06]  * Dr_willis keeps waiting for his New linux user friend from work to pop in.
[23:06] <ScRaMBlEr> :P
[23:06] <x-X-x__> johnathon install gutsy
[23:06] <apallo> What's the name of the advanced compiz configuration thing?
[23:07] <lm2> hollo
[23:07] <mwe> chaosrl: some. I wouldn't say much
[23:07] <lm2> hello
[23:07] <pewpewpew> gutsy tried to label my hd as /sda/ instead of /hda/ while installing - what to do there? It won't boot.
[23:07] <kitche> limp: about as high as any other driver
[23:07] <Lattyware> limp: Quite the oposite, it just means the driver is not Open source.
[23:07] <ZeeO> iarwain1:  yes im runing vbox
[23:07] <peace> i pressed the topic link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FAQ and it opened in quanta..not in firefox..as a code :(
[23:07] <pewpewpew> it definitely is ide, not scsi
[23:07] <kitche> apallo: umm you mean ccsm which is the configure app for compiz not even advance config application
[23:07] <lm2> how can i put my acer laptop function correctly with infrared
[23:07] <CaBlGuY> well, that didn't help...   anyone else wanna give me a hand or try and help with my flash issues??
[23:07] <iarwain1> ZeeO: Change the Clipboard setting to Host => Guest
[23:07] <x-X-x__> johnathon: why u using breezy download the latest from the official website
[23:07] <johnathon> x-X-x_ how do i do that? do i have to reinstall ubuntu then?
[23:07] <apallo> thank kitche
[23:07] <chaosrl> mwe: ok. i was just wondering, are virtual machines very slow? say, a lot less practical than just booting into windows?
[23:07] <iarwain1> ZeeO: Don't know how to solve it otherwise :-)
[23:07] <limp> Lattyware, so how could you explain firefox being real slow? could it be that my system still isn't up to date?
[23:07] <ScRaMBlEr> hi
[23:07] <x-X-x__> johnathon did u install breezy or did someone give u a cd?
[23:07] <apallo> appreciate the help!
[23:08] <mwe> chaosrl: it's slower, yes
[23:08] <lm2> how can i put my acer laptop function correctly with infrared
[23:08] <ScRaMBlEr> anyone have a sim card cloner  in linux?
[23:08] <scoobiduuu> ??Question?? I'm using Ubuntu Gusty on a laptop Dell Inspiron 2200. Using kernel 2.6.22-14-generic. When I try to setup the power management using gnome power management, after having it setup to automatically suspend or hibernate after an (X) amount of minutes it always does both. (hibernates and suspends) Can anyone offer me any advice....
[23:08] <mwe> chaosrl: but depending on your application it may run fine
[23:08] <khermans> we need 3 people with iPods to help with SRU for this bug --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtkpod-aac/+bug/145506
[23:08] <Lattyware> limp: There are a huge number of reasons why. Is it a fresh install (any extensions)? You might want to try Epiphany or Opera, which are both good browsers.
[23:08] <johnathon> x-X-x_ i installed it  because it was one that worked with my pc
[23:08] <chaosrl> mwe: ok, thanks for your help!
[23:08] <mwe> chaosrl: and physical hardware.
[23:08] <kitche> ScRaMBlEr: I know tons of people do but umm this isn't the channel for that
[23:08] <Lattyware> limp: why it could be, I should say.
[23:08] <khermans> just post if you have an iPod and can test a new package over the next three days i Gutsy
[23:08] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmmm
[23:08] <x-X-x__> johnathon your system specs ?
[23:08] <CaBlGuY> !flash
[23:08] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[23:08] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[23:08] <apallo> kitche: do you know the package name by chance?
[23:08] <limp> Lattyware, or could it explain why the wireless manager crashes each time i click on "Connect to the wireless network"?
[23:09] <lm2> --->how can i put my acer laptop function correctly with infrared<-----
[23:09] <kitche> apallo: compiz-config-manager or something like that
[23:09] <soldats> !ccsm
[23:09] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[23:09] <x-X-x__> johnathon: do you know your system specs? if not then do you know what make your computer/laptop is? dell, sony etc...
[23:09] <limp> Lattyware, I haven't installed extensions firefox yet. But i am a firefox user. Why can't I install adobe flash player as extension?
[23:09] <ScRaMBlEr> kitche :~~ wtha's the channel for this ?
[23:10] <kitche> ScRaMBlEr: not on freenode that's for sure
[23:10] <Lattyware> khermans: I have an ipod and can test if I can boot by that time (hopefully I will be able to :/)
[23:10] <apallo> perfect, thanks!
[23:10] <mwe> limp: because it's not an extension
[23:10] <mwe> limp: it's a plugin
[23:10] <riotkittie> it's a plugin. :D
[23:10] <Lattyware> limp: See the topic. There is a but with flash at the moment. Flash is also a plugin.
[23:10] <nintendoteenager> im getting frustated i cant install anything i tried to open automatix and got this error..   Apt-get is running Please close Apt-get and restart automatix
[23:10] <Lattyware> *bug
[23:10] <x-X-x__> johnathon go to channel #Alsa they have a better chance of helping you then we do
[23:10] <johnathon> x-X-x_ its a compaq with pentium 2 and its got agp video card and a 100mb lan card
[23:10] <peace> i want to save a file..it says i dont have permision... ||| how i can login as root and then open that file..modify and save...
[23:10] <riotkittie> there is a but with flash?
[23:10] <khermans> Lattyware, thanks bro -- just join the bug by posting and saying you will help!!! thanks so much!!
[23:10] <riotkittie> oh. nevermind.
[23:10] <kitche> !automatix | nintendoteenager
[23:10] <ubotu> nintendoteenager: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[23:10] <johnathon> x-X-x_ idk the sound card
[23:10] <elkbuntu> nintendoteenager, please dont use automatix, it does dangerous things
[23:10] <khermans> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtkpod-aac/+bug/145506
[23:10] <Lattyware> nintendoteenager: Automatix is bad, don't use it.
[23:11] <mwe> using the flash installer from adobe.com worked fine here
[23:11] <barry_> i have no sound in the game etqw can anyone help?
[23:11] <Lattyware> khermans: Not at all. As I said, I'll need to be able to boot my rig though, damn grub.
[23:11] <ArthurArchnix> !automatix | nintendoteenager
[23:11] <x-X-x__> johnathon go to #alsa they will be ablle to help
[23:11] <ubotu> nintendoteenager: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[23:11] <johnathon> ok
[23:11] <mwe> !sound | barry_
[23:11] <ubotu> barry_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:11] <barry_> i have sound
[23:11] <nintendoteenager> ok then i try to install last.fm and got an error also something is running and you need to shut it down
[23:11] <barry_> this game just dosent have sound
[23:12] <ScRaMBlEr> kitche: ok, thank you!
[23:12] <peace> anyone..  :)
[23:12] <soldats> barry_, does the game require OSS sound support
[23:12] <johnathon> x-X-x_ do i have to download something? and if so what?
[23:12] <x-X-x__> someone know whats wrong ? http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot00000mb4.png
[23:12] <x-X-x__>  http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot00002yc7.png
[23:12] <barry_> idk it mite
[23:12] <ArthurArchnix> peace You don't want to log in as root. You want to take ownership of the file.
[23:12] <peace> i want to save a file..it says i dont have permision... ||| how i can login as root and then open that file..modify and save...
[23:12] <soldats> !sudo | peace
[23:12] <ubotu> peace: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[23:13] <mhr> !ls | mhr
[23:13] <ArthurArchnix> sudo chown R peace:peace /path-tofile/filename.ext
[23:13] <Lattyware> Hey all. I booted up my PC to be greeted by a Grub error 17, I attempted to reinstall Grub via a 7.04 live CD (grub>root>setup), but it clamed it could not find any devices. I tried mounting the drive and it cirtainly exists, I have not done anything since it was last working. Really rather annoying, on another PC ATM.
[23:13] <ArthurArchnix> peace oops. I'll try again.
[23:13] <x-X-x__> johnathon go to #alsa u dont have to download anything
[23:13] <nintendoteenager> and i shut down the updater and get the same error telling me its open
[23:14] <johnathon> ok
[23:14] <tomg> hi all, what command can i run, with user privelages and no sudo, in kde to hibernate my computer?
[23:14] <x-X-x__> ask them they will be able to help just give the  info
[23:14] <ArthurArchnix> peace "sudo chown username:username /path/to/file/file.ext
[23:14] <ArthurArchnix> peace that's it above, ignore the one before it with R and smiley
[23:15] <soldats> tomg, try xset dpms force hibernation
[23:15] <zobban> hi i got a cyber shot digital camera when i plug in my usb cable the computer turns OFF
[23:15] <Ashnal> how would I switch which audio device is used?
[23:15] <johnathon> x-X-x_ can we do something like a remote desktop so u can guide me threw this better
[23:15] <tomg> soldats thanks
[23:15] <mhr> Lattyware: did you use '--root-directory' with grub-install ?
[23:15] <CaBlGuY> ok,I found the fix....   if anyone else is having flash issues with Gutsy, the fix is here....  http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=53648&stc=1&d=1198033466
[23:15] <ArthurArchnix> tomg: You need to be a part of the powerdev groups. Type: "groups username" in a terminal to see if you see powerdev
[23:15] <CaBlGuY> and it works..  Just installed it myself..
[23:16] <Lattyware> mhr: No.
[23:16] <pewpewpew> is there a hardy heron chan?
[23:16] <Lattyware> pewpewpew: #ubuntu+1 I believe
[23:16] <soldats> !+1 | pewpewpew
[23:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:16] <soldats> !hardy | pew
[23:16] <ubotu> pew: hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:16] <soldats> pewpewpew, look at the post above
[23:16] <pewpewpew> i see
[23:16] <pewpewpew> thanks
[23:17] <Ashnal> how would i switch which sound card is used?
[23:17] <mhr> Lattyware: I believe this is your problem.. when you restore grub stuff from the rescue disk you have to tell grub-install where your actual root partition is (with the --root-directory option)
[23:17] <filo1234> hello ....i have an eeepc asus, and tryng to run kubuntu or ubuntu on  usb pen ..i have  a problem with wireless, on lspci wireless is recognized but the module ath_pci isn't build ....anyone have some idea? thank you
[23:17] <soldats> Ashnal, go to sound preference in the menu
[23:17] <ArthurArchnix> Ashnal: >system>preferences >sound
[23:17] <kitche> filo1234: eeepc using a hacked version of ath_pci
[23:18] <filo1234> kitche:  and solution?
[23:18] <johnathon> x-X-x_ u there?
[23:18] <zobban> hi i got a cyber shot digital camera when i plug in my usb cable the computer turns OFF
[23:18] <mhr> Lattyware: if you e.g. mounted your root partition under /media/sda1, you would have to say 'grub-install --root-directory=/media/sda1 /dev/sda'
[23:18] <kitche> filo1234: grab the patch for ath_pci and apply it
[23:18] <Lattyware> mhr: Right...
[23:19] <filo1234> kitche:  where i can find that patch? have some link?
[23:19] <mhr> Lattyware: is your /boot directory located on the root partition or on a separate partition?
[23:19] <soldats> johnathon, what was your initial problem
[23:19] <x-X-x__> johnathon yeh im here
[23:19] <Lattyware> so mkdir /mnt/test mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/test grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/test /dev/sdb2 ?
[23:19] <Lattyware> root
[23:19] <x-X-x__> he cant play saound
[23:19] <soldats> ahh
[23:19] <peace> you are working hard here as robots... :D and we still dont understand anything :)
[23:20] <x-X-x__> johnathon is using ubuntu breezy and cant play sound
[23:20] <scoobiduuu> ??Question?? I'm using Ubuntu Gusty on a laptop Dell Inspiron 2200. Using kernel 2.6.22-14-generic. When I try to setup the power management using gnome power management, after having it setup to automatically suspend or hibernate after an (X) amount of minutes it always does both. (hibernates and suspends) Can anyone offer me any advice....
[23:20] <johnathon> x-X-x_ i dont have any sound
[23:20] <mhr> Lattyware: grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/test /dev/sdb
[23:20] <x-X-x__> johnathon what did #alsa say about your problem ?
[23:20] <johnathon> x-X-x_ idk i cant figure out the site
[23:21] <soldats> johnathon, /j #alsa
[23:21] <x-X-x__> no, join channel #alsa
[23:21] <mhr> Lattyware: you need to specify the disk (/dev/sdb) and not the partition (/dev/sdb2) at the end of the command
[23:21] <x-X-x__> not  a site
[23:21] <Lattyware> right
[23:21] <soldats> peace, your problem is still current
[23:21] <Lattyware> I'll give that a shot.
[23:21] <Lattyware> Thanks.
[23:21] <ArthurArchnix> peace did that command I gave you not work?
[23:21] <johnathon> x-X-x_ wait not the site?
[23:21] <mhr> Lattyware: see whether it helps
[23:21] <peace> its too advanced.. :)
[23:22] <soldats> peace, you can use sudo or gksudo to edit the file and save it without problems
[23:22] <mhr> Lattyware: I was assuming all the time that your /boot directory is located on the root partition and not on a separate boot partition
[23:22] <x-X-x__> johnathon its a channel on irc
[23:22] <x-X-x__> johnathon type:  /j #alsa
[23:23] <ArthurArchnix> peace Ok. Well, what is the name of the file you want to edit?
[23:23] <ninjabob7> hey is there a way to see what packages have been updated recently?
[23:23] <soldats> johnathon, type this where you would type a message in your irc client "/j #alsa" without quotes
[23:23] <TheZealot> How do I kill an application (namely firefox) that's running and nto responding, but there is no visible window to xkill...?
[23:23] <johnathon> x-X-x_ i just figured it out sry if i sound dumb but i just switched from windows
[23:23] <soldats> TheZealot, sudo killall firefox-bin
[23:23] <mhr> TheZealot: pgrep firefox gives you the PID
[23:23] <TheZealot> thanks a lot soldats
[23:23] <peace> its only .. /etc/X11/xorg.conf  <- to change in the file one word - from true.. to false.. so my mouse will work fine..
[23:23] <x-X-x__> johnathon u dont sound dumb. i too recently migrated from windows 1 month ago
[23:24] <mhr> TheZealot: pkill firefox
[23:24] <Lattyware> mhr, Good assumption.
[23:24] <havfunonline> I was trying to connect to a new wireless network adapter and it kept loading, and Wicd wouldn't close. I rebooted my computer and now it won't open
[23:24] <PriceChild> !tab | havfunonline
[23:24] <ubotu> havfunonline: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[23:24] <soldats> peace, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:24] <ArthurArchnix> peace ah. Good thing you didn't follow my command :). Here's what you want to type: "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[23:24] <mhr> Lattyware: cool :-)
[23:24] <johnathon> x-X-x_ ok
[23:24] <soldats> ArthurArchnix, lol were on the same page at the same spped almost :D
[23:24] <comicinker> in a bash script, if you have    if [-z "$Var"]; then          what does the -z mean?
[23:25] <komputes> How do you check the list of wireless access points your machine has been configured for?
[23:25] <ArthurArchnix> peace You need to open a terminal, and paste that in there. Also, it's a good idea to back up the file before you edit it. So do this to back it up: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.orig
[23:25] <johnathon> x-X-x_ no one is answering me
[23:25] <ArthurArchnix> soldats: You in my internets, stealinz my thunder. :P
[23:25] <k1gw1> This is a long shot, but is there some way to make the 'notification area' icon for gnome-ppp NOT blink? like is it an animated gif I can replace or something?
[23:25] <havfunonline> Wicd won't open, how do I make it open (or unitstall reinstall) if I can't connect to the internet
[23:25] <mhr> comicinker:               True if the length of string is zero.
[23:25] <soldats> ArthurArchnix, its moar likely than youd think
[23:25] <comicinker> thanks mhr
[23:26] <peace> thank you very much... :) damn this community is too good :0
[23:26] <peace> just give a break  sometimes..get a tea :D
[23:26] <peace> good luck
[23:26] <tnj> ok so I want to follow this guide:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spec/EnhancedBash  now, when I try the first command 'echo "\"\e[5~\": history-search-backward" >> /etc/inputrc' (so it will be systemwide) i get permission denied (obviously) since i'm not root
[23:26] <IG72> Can anyone help me enable dma for my dvd-r drive? When I try "sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/scd0" it replies "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device"
[23:27] <soldats> tnj, put sudo in front of it
[23:27] <x-X-x__> johnathon did u say ? can someone help me ? or did u say i am having trouble with my sound card ? DO not ask to ask a question just ask it
[23:27] <tnj> i tried that, still permission denied
[23:27] <mhr> comicinker: man bash
[23:27] <johnathon> x-X-x_ o ok i did now
[23:27] <havfunonline> anyone know how to reinstall/fix Wicd if I can't connect to the internet
[23:28] <komputes> How do you check the list of wireless access points your machine has been configured for?
[23:29] <ArthurArchnix> IG72: What does this return   cd /dev | ls | grep sc*
[23:29] <soldats> tnj, i did the same command and it didnt do anything maybe you need a different command. what are youtrying to do
[23:29] <PriceChild> havfunonline, still no idea why you're not using the network manager included with Ubuntu.
[23:29] <havfunonline> I can't find it
[23:30] <Odd-rationale> havfunonline: Do you have the notification applet on your panel?
[23:30] <PriceChild> havfunonline, http://cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/ubuntu-7.10-wireless-networks.jpg - the icon left of the volume brings up that menu
[23:30] <tnj> soldats, in the guide it says "If you want these to be system wide, add those lines to /etc/inputrc instead"
[23:31] <tnj> soldats, so I did 'sudo echo "\"\e[5~\": history-search-backward" >> /etc/inputrc'
[23:31] <havfunonline> I don't have that Icon
[23:31] <xsfr> how can i see where a package install it's contents to with a scroll thign too?
[23:31] <ogre> anyone have any clue for a fix for touchpad? when I use my touchpad it spins around my desktop cube like like 75% of the time. is there a way to disable this while keeping the cube?
[23:32] <Odd-rationale> havfunonline: Check to see if you have a notification area on your panel. It looks like two vertical lines
[23:32] <xsfr> it's like dpkg pacakge | less
[23:32] <komputes> Ubuntu keeps asking me for my keyring password, but I get denied every time I put in my password, how can I reset my keyring password?
[23:32] <TheZealot> Guys, when I have a window maximized and I move my cursor to the top of the screen, many times a little grey bar comes down covering up my title bar for a second then goes away. I've seen this on multiple PC's with different video cards. Anyone else have this problem and have fixed it? I use Ubuntu with Gnome, newest release
[23:32] <arken> Hey guys. I need help configuring X. How do I do it?
[23:32] <ArthurArchnix> havfunonline: Maybe you removed it from your session startup. Try this, hit ALT+F2, then paste this in there: nm-applet --sm-disable
[23:32] <PriceChild> havfunonline, did you not do a standard ubuntu install?
[23:33] <IG72> ArthurArchnix: I have scd0 and scd1
[23:33] <Lattyware> mhr: '/dev/sdb does not have any corresponding bios drive'
[23:33] <ArthurArchnix> IG72: And do you have two cd/dvd devices?
[23:33] <soldats> tnj, thats wierd. im looking into it
[23:33] <IG72> yes
[23:33] <tnj> soldats, ty
[23:33] <xsfr> how do i open a sudo file manager? sudo nautilus
[23:33] <xsfr> ?
[23:33] <havfunonline> PriceChild I did a very standard ubuntu install
[23:33] <IG72> ArthurArchnix: Yes
[23:33] <mhr> xsfr: cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package name>.list
[23:33] <Ashnal> alsamixer keeps giving me the screen for my onboard instead of my sound card, how do i make it display levels for my sound card?
[23:34] <soldats> xsfr, gksudo nautilus
[23:34] <tnj> soldats, ive been googling too
[23:34] <mhr> Lattyware: did you change anything in the BIOS setup?
[23:34] <k1gw1> no way to stop the gnome-ppp tray icon from blinking?
[23:34] <goodhabit> Ыыы.
[23:34] <Darkmystere> Err guys i have serious problems grub wasnt working so i booted live cd and i get this:grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[23:34] <Darkmystere> Error 15: File not found
[23:34] <goodhabit> Кто-нибудь осилил firestarter?
[23:34] <arken> Hey guys. I need help configuring X. How do I do it?
[23:35] <Odd-rationale> havfunonline: The network manager applet resides in the notification area. If you don't have the notofication area on your panel, you will not be able to see the nm-applet.
[23:35] <ArthurArchnix> IG72:  What instructions are you following? Got a link?
[23:35] <soldats> tnj, echo "\"\e[5~\": history-search-backward" >> ~/.inputrc     did you forget the tilde " ~ "
[23:35] <IG72> ArthurArchnix: Both have dma 0 and a hdparm on both reports "HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device"
[23:35] <Ashnal> alsamixer keeps giving me the screen for my onboard instead of my sound card, how do i make it display levels for my sound card?
[23:36] <havfunonline> ArthurArchnix, it says the location of file could not be found
[23:36] <arken> Hey guys. I need help configuring X. How do I do it?
[23:36] <mhr> Lattyware: did you try 'grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb' ?
[23:36] <k1gw1> arken: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:36] <Darkmystere> Can anyone help?
[23:36] <goodhabit> arken, you can use text editor and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:36] <havfunonline> Odd-rationale, I can see two dotted vertical lines
[23:37] <havfunonline> is that my notification area?
[23:37] <IG72> ArthurArchnix: I tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA  with my own dvd drive path
[23:37] <tnj> soldats,  no because I didn't try that, I assumed that for it to be systemwide you would need to replace the "`~/.inputrc" with "/etc/inputrc" at the end of the command
[23:37] <TheZealot> Anyone know if weechat can tile multiple chat windows?
[23:37] <arken> goodhabit: how do i edit it logged in as root, without logging in as root?
[23:37] <Odd-rationale> havfunonline: Yes, now make sure you have the nm-applet installed
[23:37] <havfunonline> how?
[23:37] <lime4x4> does ubuntu always use a crt monitor as the default screen in multi monitor setups?
[23:37] <tnj> soldats, according to the guide :s
[23:37] <goodhabit> arken, you don't need root @ ubuntu. Use sudo.
[23:37] <k1gw1> arken: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:38] <havfunonline> Odd-rationale: how?
[23:38] <arken> Okee doke
[23:38] <Ashnal> alsamixer keeps giving me the screen for my onboard instead of my sound card, how do i make it display levels for my sound card?
[23:38] <xenthro> hey guys, is there a way to run chkdsk from inside linux?
[23:38] <soldats> tnj, it says for system widr put it in inputrc use sudo to edit the file and add the necessary lines
[23:38] <Lattyware> mhr: Yeah, no good
[23:39] <k1gw1> Ashnal: system preferences, sound. also may wanna consider diabling onboard in your bios
[23:39] <fiveiron> anyone know how to extract images from a message in evolution?  they're embedded, not attached
[23:39] <tnj> soldats, will do, no echo command for that i guess
[23:39] <arken> well guys
[23:39] <Ashnal> klgwl, if i disable onboard ALSA will automatically use my sound card?
[23:39] <comicinker> how can I get a filesize in a bash script?
[23:39] <havfunonline> how do I check if I have the network manager applet installed?
[23:39] <fiveiron> comicinker, google will do wonders for you
[23:39] <Odd-rationale> havfunonline: Try this: open a terminal and type nm-applet
[23:40] <k1gw1> havfunonline: sudo apt-get install nm-applet
[23:40] <tnj> soldats,  what part of the line would I need to add then?
[23:40] <havfunonline> Odd-rationale, not installed
[23:40] <ArthurArchnix> IG72: And you've done this:  sudo hdparm /dev/sc*
[23:40] <Odd-rationale> havfunonline: Then type in the command it gives you to install it.
[23:41] <ablyss> comicinker, ls -l file
[23:41] <now3d> hi, just installed 7.10. noticed that although i installed in "Japanese" everything is in darn "US English". Also Japanese text input isnt working, so how do I trigger it if Shift+Space isnt working?
[23:41] <komputes> How do you check the list of wireless access points your machine has been configured for?
[23:41] <comicinker> ablyss: and the file size only?
[23:41] <havfunonline> Odd-rationale, I can't connect to the internet, so it can't find the package?
[23:41] <kitche> komputes: you don't really but look at network-manager
[23:41] <IG72> ArthurArchnix: well no, i just typed the line for scd0 and scd1, returns the same thing though
[23:41] <ablyss> comicinker, oh sorry. let me think about that
[23:41] <Odd-rationale> havfunonline: are you connected to the internet right now?
[23:41] <nickrud> havfunonline: what version of ubuntu are you running, that you wouldn't have the nm-applet?
[23:41] <TheZealot> Is there a way to get my windows NOT to snap-to the top and sides of my screen as I position them?
[23:42] <havfunonline> Odd-rationale, I am using a different computer.  My problem is that my laptop won't connect to the internet
[23:42] <k1gw1> How do I (without uninstalling it) disale nm-applet? I have no network connections besides usb sprint modem for now and could use the space on my eee's panel. I can kill it but preventing it from showing up on reboot..?
[23:42] <havfunonline> nickrud: I have no idea why I don't have it
[23:42] <mwe> TheZealot: in settings perhaps
[23:42] <nickrud> havfunonline: are you running gutsy, with the desktop?
[23:42] <Odd-rationale> havfunonline: do you have a cable you can plug your laptop into to connect to the internet just to install the package?
[23:42] <TheZealot> mwe: I've checked, but not fuond anything
[23:42] <havfunonline> nickrud: Yeh, standard installation and all
[23:42] <ArthurArchnix> IG72: Same thing. Meaning you saw no dma = 1 line right?
[23:43] <nickrud> havfunonline: then it would be on the cd, you can install it from there
[23:43] <comicinker> ablyss: oh my god, found so many possibilities... http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/programming-9/file-size-using-bash-script-410766/?s=557e2ff8e4db90f9857b7f172f6cabd0
[23:43] <havfunonline> Odd-rationale, tried that it won't connect to the internet via cable either
[23:43] <mwe> TheZealot: then probably have to hack some obscure file to do it
[23:43] <Ashnal> ummm i tried switching to my sound card in preferences>sound and testing but it wont output any sound
[23:44] <komputes> havfunonline: you can do sudo apt-get -d <packagename> just to download, and then transfer to the non-online PC and do dpkg -i <packagename> to install
[23:44] <TomMD> I'm looking to bind my ThinkPad browser 'forward' and 'back' keys, but I can only find hotkeys on google, which doesn't cut the mustard.  Any ideas?
[23:44] <havfunonline> Odd-rationale, It Network settings it says it recognises the wired connection, and the wireless but neither work
[23:44] <benanzo> comicinker: du -b $FILE | sed 's:\t.*::'
[23:44] <tnj> soldats, i'm ok with opening up an editor and doing it that way.  Its got me stumped now why i get permission denied even with sudo
[23:44] <havfunonline> komputes, I'm not using linux on the internet connected PC
[23:44] <benanzo> will return the size in bytes of specified FILE
[23:45] <komputes> kitche: where is this "network-manager" you speak of?
[23:45] <comicinker> benanzo: I will use stat -c%s filename
[23:45] <benanzo> that will work as well
[23:45] <ArthurArchnix> IG72: I get this HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device... sata drives apparently don't support hdparm?
[23:45] <IG72> ArthurArchnix: dma = 0, reads and writes use 100% cpu and take a stupendous amount of time, so I am pretty sure dma is not working
[23:45] <komputes> havfunonline: I know, you can still download it from the buntu packages website
[23:45] <soldats> tnj, im still looking. do youknow what the command is supposed to do. the only thing it does for me is number the command names in history
[23:45] <Ashnal> nickrud: so ive decided since i got my onboard sound working, ill try to use my sound card as it sound much better, however now it doesnt want to output any sound at all regardless of volume levels
[23:45] <ninjabob7> my compiz randomly stopped working... how can I diagnose the problem?
[23:45] <komputes> havfunonline: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[23:46] <ninjabob7> it crashes with this message: aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[23:46] <IG72> ArthurArchnix:  Both my HDD and both my DVDR are IDE
[23:46] <Odd-rationale> havfunonline: hmm. try downloading the package from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/network-manager-gnome
[23:47] <Jack_Sparrow> ninjabob7: Completely random problems can be extremely frustrating.  What video card, do you use wine, things like that can help us help you.
[23:47] <komputes> kitche: did you mean network settings?
[23:47] <ninjabob7> i'm using nvidia
[23:47] <veynom> is there a quick way that i could create a file containing the results of doing ls?
[23:47] <kitche> komputes: maybe network-manager is a program
[23:47] <tnj> soldats,  it supposedly binds the pageup key to "match previously typed commands from partial input"
[23:47] <ninjabob7> i think compiz probably got updated but I didn't look
[23:47] <ninjabob7> and I tried reinstalling compiz but no luck
[23:47] <soldats> tnj, ahh
[23:47] <ArthurArchnix> IG72: Hmm... tres bizzarre. So: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sdc0  can you paste the error again? And just cut and paste that line into your terminal.
[23:47] <CygnusX1> veynom: redirection:   ls > results.txt
[23:48] <CoasterMaster> is there a driver that allows Windows XP to read ext3 partitions?
[23:48] <veynom> CygnusX1: thanks
[23:48] <Jack_Sparrow> ninjabob7: How did you install effects?  Did you use any scripts, outside repos etc?
[23:49] <xbot_> does anyone know how to get flash eg (youtube...) working? i installed it through firefox but youtube still wont play
[23:49] <Jack_Sparrow> CoasterMaster: yes ext2fs or something like that
[23:49] <IG72> ArthurArchnix: /dev/scd0:
[23:49] <IG72>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[23:49] <IG72>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[23:49] <ninjabob7> umm... i think it's just the standard ubuntu version of compiz fusion
[23:49] <halstead> How do I enable a third virtual desktop?
[23:49] <CoasterMaster> Jack_Sparrow, excellent thank you
[23:49] <ninjabob7> CoasterMaster: explore2fs
[23:49] <halstead> Nevermind.
[23:49] <crdlb> ninjabob7: what is the line before the aborting and using fallback line?
[23:49] <CoasterMaster> ninjabob7, awesome thanks
[23:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues > xbot_
[23:49] <bastid_raZor> !flash > xbot_
[23:50] <ninjabob7> crdlb: no other line
[23:50] <bastid_raZor> Jack_Sparrow;  hmm..
[23:50] <komputes> kitche: no, not a program, at least not one which is launched through the shell...
[23:50] <ninjabob7> when I start it from gnome-terminal with compiz --replace that's all i get
[23:50] <ninjabob7> when i just log in it resets X
[23:50] <havfunonline> Odd-rationale, how do I unpackage that once I get it onto my computer?
[23:50] <IG72> ArthurArchnix: my hdd despite being ide is also prefix as sda1, 2 etc when I would expect hda1, 2  Is this normal for linux nowdays? I havent tried it for years
[23:50] <tommyboy> whats up all
[23:50] <Odd-rationale> havfunonline: Double click the .deb
[23:50] <crdlb> ninjabob7: are you in the failsafe session?
[23:51] <ninjabob7> yeah I am right now
[23:51] <tommyboy845> whats up all
[23:51] <crdlb> that's why compiz won't start
[23:51] <Odd-rationale> havfunonline: Also make sure you have the needed dependencies on your other comupter.
[23:51] <ninjabob7> when i start it normally though it crashes
[23:51] <ArthurArchnix> IG72: Yeah. New naming convention.
[23:51] <ninjabob7> which is why i'm in failsafe right now :-(
[23:51] <havfunonline> Odd-rationale, How?
[23:52] <crdlb> ninjabob7: what does 'glxinfo | grep direct' say?
[23:52] <jobrien> Anyone have DHCP Server experiance with DHCPD?
[23:52] <kitche> IG72: linux kernel uses a new driver called libata which names all hard drives sdx
[23:52] <comicinker> how can I get the letter from that expression: 1474k
[23:52] <TheZealot> I fixed my windows snap-to problem... I installed compiz and it gives me an advanced window settings menu with all kinds of window settings. install it by doing this: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:52] <komputes> Ubuntu keeps asking me for my keyring password, but I get denied every time I put in my password, how can I reset my keyring password?
[23:52] <soldats> tnj, man i have no clue im not the best at configuring custom bash commands
[23:52] <Odd-rationale> havfunonline: Actually, nevermind that. Gdebi should let you know if you don;t have the neede dependdencies.
[23:52] <soldats> tnj, i cant figure it out. than again im a little out of t right now
[23:52] <tnj> soldats, maybe i need to use sudo with an option, i really don't know but i think i may have found something
[23:53] <ArthurArchnix> Well... I stumbled across an old archived thread that says this might work:  sudo hdparm -d1 -X66 /dev/sdc0   You can read more about the 'x' switch here. http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/cmd.csp?path=h/hdparm
[23:53] <thecrono> how do i get 'gtk+ 1.2'?
[23:53] <kitche> komputes: which keyring?
[23:53] <thecrono> adept gave me fourty-leven results
[23:53] <ArthurArchnix> IG72 see above
[23:53] <thecrono> apt-get gave me the same
[23:53] <komputes> kitche: that's the thing, i can't see any
[23:53] <thecrono> and i;'m nto sure what i need
[23:54] <komputes> kitche: in the keyring manager
[23:54] <tommyboy845> new ubuntu user here coming from fedoracore distros. lol. so far i likie..
[23:54] <komputes> kitche: it does this every time I connect to a wireless network
[23:54] <tnj> soldats, check this out https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/9381  let me know what you think
[23:54] <IG72> Kitche: Could libata be having problems with my dvd drive perhaps?
[23:54] <soldats> tnj, wait so in terminal instead of doing the normal "up arrow key" to scroll through the history commands its supposed to scroll with the pgup and pgdown commands
[23:54] <kitche> komputes: well there is tons of keyrings out there you mean the gnome-keyring?
[23:54] <ablyss> comicinker, did you find it yet? if not I have this read -r a Size <<< "$(ls -l file)";echo "${Size[4]}"
[23:54] <neverblue> SWAP a logical or primary ?
[23:54] <neverblue> its logical right ?
[23:55] <kitche> IG72: probably not but who knows since cd/dvd are usually named the old way unless they are scsi
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> neverblue: yes, usally.
[23:55] <comicinker> ablyss: about the file size: stat -c%s file
[23:55] <noodles12> in konqueror, how do we get it to display your networked computers?
[23:55] <ninjabob7> crdlb: that command also crashes X
[23:55] <tommyboy845> im not a total newbie, but i cant figure out how i can up my screen resolution. im stuck at 1024x800.
[23:55] <tommyboy845> any poiinters?
[23:55] <ablyss> oh cool, thanks comicinker
[23:55] <nickrud> neverblue: doesn't matter, you just need logical to have more than 4
[23:55] <ArthurArchnix> IG72: How'd that work with the -X66 switch?
[23:55] <soldats> tnj, did you see my last message
[23:55] <ninjabob7> tommyboy845: are you using the vesa driver?
[23:55] <crdlb> ninjabob7: ok so the problem is your video driver, not compiz. Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:55] <mhr> comicinker: echo "1474k" | tr -d '[0-9]'
[23:56] <tnj> soldats, yes, sorry phone call
[23:56] <komputes> kitche: most likely gnome keyring , in ubuntu it is System>Admin>Keyring
[23:56] <tommyboy845> ninjabob7: can i yum for that? or where can i find it at?
[23:56] <kitche> komputes: yep gnome-keyring
[23:56] <patbam> i have an ipod shuffle which for some reason won't let me add more content (it says the device is full), although there's half a gig of space left on hte device according to gnome
[23:56] <ArthurArchnix> patbam:  Try emptying your trash
[23:56] <tommyboy845> ninjabob7: im currently on a laptop with a ati 200m card... not so great but for development and graphic design i need a bigger screen
[23:56] <ninjabob7> tommyboy845: no, i'm asking if you're currently running that or a specific driver
[23:56] <neverblue> nickrud, sorry, that wasnt clear :)
[23:56] <komputes> kitche: so how do I reset or delete the ring
[23:57] <patbam> ArthurArchnix: yeah i deleted all the mp3s from the trash
[23:57] <IG72> ArthurArchnix: sorry mussed have missed it, what x66 switch?
[23:57] <comicinker> mhr: cool, thanks
[23:57] <ArthurArchnix> patbam: While it's plugged in. The shuffle I mean. Or enable showing hidden files, enable the delete command that bypasses trash, and then delete the ./trash folder on your shuffle.
[23:57] <soldats> tnj, is it what you want? i edited the inputrc file and i scrolled down till the pageup part and i inpout the commands from the first link you had then saved. now it scroll through history with the pageup keys. you dont need to have the echo part in the file though
[23:57] <kitche> komputes: might help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=384905
[23:57] <nickrud> neverblue: swap can be on a logical or primary partition, it doesn't matter. You only need to make a logical partition if you plan on having more than 4 partitions on a disk
[23:57] <patbam> ArthurArchnix: hmm, okay, going to try that.
[23:57] <tommyboy845> ninjabob7: ooh, well im using fglrx now, i tried using the ATi ones but still the same
[23:57] <tnj> soldats, yes, but also matching partially typed commands
[23:58] <ninjabob7> tommyboy845: don't know then
[23:58] <soldats> tnj, yes that works for me as well
[23:58] <tnj> soldats, yes indeed
[23:58] <soldats> tnj, pastebin your inputrc file and ill edit it
[23:58] <neverblue> nickrud, thank you, thats obviously a lot more clear :D
[23:58] <havfunonline> Odd-rationale, "Could not download additional files please check internet connection"
[23:58] <soldats> if youd like
[23:59] <ArthurArchnix> IG72: It forces a specific IDE transfer mode. Other users on an old Ubuntu thread reported it fixed their jumpy settings. Thread is here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-501211.html  Command again is:  sudo hdparm -d1 -X66 /dev/sdc0
[23:59] <Odd-rationale> havfunonline: Does it tell you which packages you're missing?
[23:59] <patbam> ArthurArchnix: how do i enable the delete command that bypasses trash?
[23:59] <nickrud> neverblue: are you saying that moi was obscure ;p
[23:59] <havfunonline> Odd-rationale, nope
[23:59] <tnj> soldats, how do I pastebin ?
[23:59] <ArthurArchnix> In nautlius, >edit >preference >behaviour