[00:03] <spiv> Odd_Bloke: I think so, yes
[05:13] <poolie> sight, downtime
[05:14] <poolie> is this really going to take 90m?
[05:17] <jamesh> I think 90 minutes is the downtime window
[05:17] <mthaddon> poolie, hoping it won't be that long 
[05:18] <mthaddon> that's the worst case
[05:18] <poolie> jamesh, i think there is a spec for putting a warning at the top of all pages if there is impending downtime
[05:18] <jamesh> (i.e. if things aren't going to complete by then, the upgrade might be cancelled)
[05:18] <poolie> i really hope we can do that sometime
[05:18] <jamesh> poolie: there is some code to handle that already.
[05:18] <jamesh> mthaddon: did you use it? :)
[05:18] <mthaddon> poolie that already works (15 mins before shutdown)
[05:18] <mthaddon> jamesh, yep
[05:18] <poolie> that's not much warning!
[05:19] <poolie> well
[05:19] <poolie> for some things it might be enough
[05:19] <poolie> but i think 24h would be more appropriate
[05:24] <poolie> jamesh, what do you think?
[05:24] <jamesh> poolie: I guess so
[05:25] <jamesh> for a once-a-month operation a longer warning period seems appropriate
[07:31] <carlos> morning
[07:43] <Laibsch> Does launchpad support searching inside PPAs?
[07:43] <Laibsch> If so, how often the index updated?
[07:44] <Laibsch> I could not find the packages I provide
[07:58] <jamesh> Laibsch: there is a list of the packages in your PPA at https://launchpad.net/~USER/+archive
[07:58] <jamesh> or do you mean something else?
[07:59] <Laibsch> I would like to search for package X and find out which PPA I can get it from
[08:00] <Laibsch> So somebody looking for anki should find my ppa
[08:09] <jamesh> Laibsch: maybe file a bug report about it?  I don't think it is supported yet
[08:11] <Laibsch> jamesh: looks like it is possible: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/184433
[08:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 184433 in launchpad "PPA search is case-sensitive" [Undecided,New] 
[08:11] <Laibsch> Just not linked very well
[08:12] <Laibsch> no, that is different
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #185547 in launchpad "search for packages in PPAs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185547
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #185558 in malone "When displaying matching bugs in +filebug, display duplicates similar to how Google displays secondary matches" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185558
[09:20] <mrevell> Howdy Launchpadders
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #185572 in rosetta "Translation export cache is not being used" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185572
[12:13] <markvandenborre> would it be appropriate to use launchpad for a project like a national chapter of openstreetmap?
[12:31] <kiko> markvandenborre, what sort of software does it produce?
[12:31] <markvandenborre> not software
[12:32] <markvandenborre> geodata
[12:32] <markvandenborre> free geodata
[12:32] <kiko> markvandenborre, how free?
[12:32] <markvandenborre> CC BY-SA
[12:32] <markvandenborre> openstreetmap.org
[12:33] <markvandenborre> just preparing for a meeting tonight
[12:34] <markvandenborre> bug tracker especially might provide helpful to us
[12:35] <markvandenborre> but I try to be a good citizen, won't even bother if you guys say you'd rather not have us use launchpad
[12:35] <kiko> markvandenborre, don't see a problem with it; the best person to check would be statik 
[12:36] <markvandenborre> kiko: thx!
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #185604 in soyuz "Missing <uploader> tag in the lpnet configuration causing oops sending email" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185604
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #185606 in soyuz "PPAs with deletions are not automatically re-published" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185606
[12:42] <\sh> dear launchpadders ;) reading about bug #183495 and infinities idea...how does soyuz deal with packages which wants to build-dep on alien arch packages? e.g. a source package building on i386 is build-depending on a _sparc.deb?
[12:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 183495 in openbios-sparc "[FTBFS] openbios-sparc (1.0~alpha2+20070816-1) fails to build in hardy" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183495
[12:44]  * \sh hands out some crack pipes for soyuz hackers to answer this question ;)
[12:47] <psicus78> hello!
[12:47] <psicus78> I'v tried to compile glib2.0 2.15.3 for gutsy in using PPA, everything worked fine and I was able to install but now I have this weird situation:
[12:47] <psicus78> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53299/
[12:48] <psicus78>  and the update manager keeps asking me to update it!
[12:48] <psicus78>  ops, sorry about that
[12:49] <Hobbsee> [23:48] <Hobbsee> persia: that's a launchpad bug.
[12:49] <Hobbsee> [23:48] <Hobbsee> psicus78: you'll have to wait for launchpad to fix their bug - it's known
[12:49] <Hobbsee> [23:48] <-- vorian has left this server (Remote closed the connection).
[12:49] <Hobbsee> [23:48] <persia> Hobbsee: poor support for !Kung, or the key issue?
[12:49] <Hobbsee> [23:48] <Hobbsee> persia: glibc probably has a predepend
[12:49] <Hobbsee> [23:48] <Hobbsee> persia: which makes it forever try to reinstall
[12:49]  * persia notes that the !Kung reference made more sense in context, and isn't actually meaningful here.
[12:56] <Hobbsee> cprov: presumably the fix for endlessly upgrading packages is not retroactive?
[12:57] <cprov> Hobbsee: no, it's not, I commented in the bug. It requires new uploads 
[13:00] <Hobbsee> right
[13:48] <psicus78> hi
[13:48] <psicus78> I was wondering why binary and source packages still remain my PPA...
[13:49] <Laibsch> psicus78: Because the GPL requires that
[13:49] <psicus78> even if they do not appear in the list of packages anymore
[13:49] <Laibsch> (assuming you are providing gpl software)
[13:50] <psicus78> so what can I do if I want to rebuild them? new packages are rejected
[13:50] <psicus78> Do I have to change version number?
[13:51] <Hobbsee> yes
[13:52] <psicus78> about a month ago I built a lot of kernel packages and they have been deleted when I asked it...is there any reason?
[13:53] <Hobbsee> cprov: hey!  do we have delete now then?
[13:54] <Hobbsee> GASP!  WE DO!
[13:55] <Hobbsee> it works, too!
[13:55] <Hobbsee> cprov: well done!
[13:55]  * Hobbsee ponders blogging about it
[13:58] <kiko> T-5 launchpad meeting in #launchpad-meeting
[15:04]  * rjek idly wonders what the chances of getting an official Ubuntu derivitive called "Unbrowntoo" are.  Given people cite the brown as a negative, it'd remove the complaint :)
[15:56] <ubotu> New bug: #185668 in launchpad ""make clean" should remove lib/mailman" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185668
[17:05] <mtaylor_> ?bug 185668
[17:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 185668 in launchpad ""make clean" should remove lib/mailman" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185668 - Assigned to Barry Warsaw (barry)
[18:17] <somerville32> I get OOPS-754EA115 when I attempt to edit milestones in my project
[18:17] <somerville32> I'm on edge
[18:17] <somerville32> Reproducible every time on every milestone I have
[18:19] <kiko> thanks somerville32, will look into it immediately. matsubara: ^^^
[18:20] <ubotu> New bug: #185706 in launchpad "OOPS in +editemails form if email address field is empty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185706
[18:20]  * matsubara checks. thanks somerville32 
[18:22] <kiko> damn
[18:22] <matsubara> that will definitely need a RC
[18:28] <somerville32> Is it broken bad? lol
[18:30] <ubotu> New bug: #185709 in launchpad "Being bug contact for product should associate team/user" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185709
[18:33] <superm1> woohoo, cleaning up space on PPAs :)
[18:40] <kiko> somerville32, yeah. a bummer.
[18:40] <somerville32> Is it only on edge?
[18:43] <kiko> somerville32, nope, it's live
[18:51] <ubotu> New bug: #185716 in launchpad "package versions portlet sorted oddly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185716
[19:08] <Ullner> How do you create another translation template? Using another name wiped out the old translation .pot.
[19:08] <kiko> Ullner, you upload a new one to your project -- you can have multiple templates active
[19:08] <Ullner> Well, we did that and the old .pot was overwritten.
[19:09] <kiko> Ullner, what project is this about?
[19:09] <Ullner> dcpluplus
[19:09] <Ullner> er, dcplusplus
[19:10] <Ullner> We had "dcpp-win32" as a template. Jacek (arnetheduck, which was here yesterday, too) uploaded "dcpp" and the "dcpp-win32" file was overwritten and the translations are gone it seems.
[19:25] <ubotu> New bug: #185731 in soyuz "Shared lockfile conflicts for poppy and process-upload" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185731
[19:30] <ubotu> New bug: #185732 in launchpad "+edit milestone page is broken when the date is set" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185732
[19:44] <lucas> hi
[19:45] <lucas> is there a way to mail all the members of a team?
[19:52] <svaksha> hi, was told to ask this here : i filed a bug and wanted to attach logs, unable to. So does LP have a file size limit to upload a log file ? 
[19:52] <Treenaks> svaksha: 'forbidden' error?
[19:52] <svaksha> Treenaks: huh?
[19:53] <Treenaks> svaksha: I just got a "Forbidden" error when I tried to report a bug in Ubuntu (using apport)
[19:54] <ScottK> Treenaks: Was the bug against an Ubuntu package or your own/PPA package?
[19:54] <svaksha> Treenaks: well my page just keeps resolving endlessly
[19:54] <Treenaks> ScottK: I don't think I have ppa's enabled here.. let me see
[19:55] <Treenaks> ScottK: it's not coming from a ppa, according to apt-cache policy
[19:55] <Treenaks> ScottK: (it's gnome-mount)
[19:56] <Treenaks> (hardy version)
[19:57] <ScottK> OK.  Nevermind then.  Not taking apport bugs from versions not in the official Ubuntu repos is a feature.  Thought it might be that.
[19:57] <Treenaks> ScottK: then it should say that, and not 'Forbidden' imho :)
[19:57] <ScottK> I think in that case it explains itself, but it doesn't happen to me.
[20:00] <ubotu> New bug: #185735 in launchpad "Trying to report a bug (using apport in Ubuntu) gives 'Forbidden' error after entering a bug title" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185735
[20:29] <arnetheduck> Hi, any rosetta maintainers around? I'm having a problem importing pot's and was hoping someone might know what's up...
[22:07] <Rinchen> updated next meeting, removed ppa notice, and questions = help :-D
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #185776 in launchpad "Active Milestones portlet does not check to see if milestones are active" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185776