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squish102what is the best tool to take my dvd's and make them xvids so i can view them from mythtv and that they dont take too much space00:04
lime4x4is there a trick to get a nvidia  geforce 715001:28
lime4x4too work01:28
tgm4883_laptopum, install the drivers?01:28
lime4x4i tried selecting restricted drivers and it still wants to use the vesa drivers01:29
lime4x4the video gpu is built into the board with dvi,vga and hdmi output01:29
tgm4883_laptopstrange01:30
lime4x4this is the board i'm using http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681318802101:31
lime4x4i guess my next step is to try and install envy01:33
tgm4883_laptop!envy01:33
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »01:33
lime4x4i tried using the restricted drivers and there not installing01:33
lime4x4i went with that board cause it uses a nvidia chipset01:35
lime4x4and built in video01:35
lime4x4I just don't know why the restricted drivers aren't being installed/used01:37
blkorpheusppl really have a difficult time installing the nvidia drivers from nvidia huh?01:39
blkorpheusits really simple01:39
lime4x4not really i have a gutsy box with dual geforce pci-e cards in sli mode and the restricted driver manager worked like a charm01:40
blkorpheuswhat do you mean not really, never said the restricted manager would not or does not work01:41
blkorpheusthe nvidia drivers from the site, work better01:41
lime4x4it was in reference to your first post01:41
blkorpheusbecause they generally are newer than those in the repos01:41
blkorpheusthe latest nvidia driver has a lot of fixes for compiz and whatnot01:42
blkorpheuseom01:42
lime4x4well i guess i will try and install the drivers from nvidia's site and c what happens01:43
lime4x4is 169.09 the latest version?01:45
lime4x4since my board uses a geforce 7150 should i install the legacy driver's instead?01:46
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compyis it better to rip to .vob or .iso06:56
eddanWhen booting from the 7.10 cd, I've tried both normal install and safe graphics mode. But after some loading (including a mythtv boot screen), I'm suddenly stuck at in easybox with (initramfs) as prompt. Can I somehow disable the fancy mythtv boot screen so I can see what actually happens before it stops?12:21
eddanoh, it's busybox, not easybox :)12:36
eddanIs the alternative (text-mode) installer available for mythbuntu or is that ubuntu only?12:59
lagathere's not text-mode installer for mythbuntu. you can just use the the alternative ubuntu installer and add mythbuntu later13:00
eddanok... There's no drawbacks to that approach?13:01
eddanI mean, besides that I need to use a text-mode installer.13:03
lagawell, since you want to do that it's not exactly a drawback .)13:05
lagaum13:05
lagai think you won't get the mythbuntu mythtv theme that way13:05
lagabut i wouldn't worry about that :)13:05
jdugganjust install blootube :)13:07
eddanHope I can skip kde (or gnome) during the install, total bloatware imho.13:07
* laga not sure13:08
lagayou don't get them if you do a server install, though13:08
lagabut just try it :)13:08
eddanhang on13:09
eddanHmm, I have a scsi cd-rom drive, do I need to pass some parameters to enable scsi support or something? So annoying that I don't get to see any error messages. ctrl+alt+f1 just shows Loading...13:11
jduggandont know for sure but you may be able to pass nosplash as a boot option to stop the mythbuntu splash cscreen13:12
eddanjduggan: ah, will try.13:13
eddannope, still got the splash screen.. I hit F6 and added "nosplash" in the end.13:15
eddans/in/at13:18
eddanOk, trying the text-mode installer now13:26
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Rimershi guys13:31
Rimersanyone got a nice sugestion as to what filesystem i should use for my new 500gb disk in my mythbuntu system?13:32
Rimersi want it to be nice, fast and reliable13:32
Rimersanyone??13:36
directhex|workRimers, use ext3 for system partitions, xfs for recordings13:41
directhex|workRimers, that's general best practice13:42
Rimersokay, thanks :) got my system partition sorted allready :) thanks13:42
directhex|workxfs is acceptable for system partitions if you feel daring, and/or have a big expensive support contract with sgi13:44
* Viaken has never known XFS to be that unstable.15:19
mindframe-Viaken, it doesn't handle power loss well, as I recently learned.15:21
mindframe-other than that it's fantastic15:21
rhpot1991_laptopxfs on a usb drive mounted incorrectly can give you a heck of a headache15:25
rhpot1991_laptophad it corrupting the FS every time it would power down15:25
ViakenAh. Might be why I haven't had troubles. My UPSs work fairly well.15:27
rhpot1991_laptopis it a usb drive, or an internal one?15:28
ViakenI use it on internal drives.15:34
rhpot1991_laptoptry running the check/repair utilities on it, should be able to recover15:35
dwf_starbandam i supposed to have a mythtv user?16:37
dwf_starbandmythfilldatabase stoped working for me about the beginning of the year, I havent had time to mess with it till now, I was googeling about it and one guy said he was able to get it to run by loging in as the mythtv user, but i dont have a mythtv user, should i?16:39
dwf_starbandand if i do, does the password matter? or will i need to change it somewhere as well?16:39
rhpot1991_laptoptry running it by hand with whatever user you use on that box16:39
dwf_starbandmythfilldatabase?16:40
rhpot1991_laptopyep16:40
rhpot1991_laptophopefully it will give you some sort of hint as to what the problem is16:40
dwf_starbandi just get errors, "failed writing http request: bad file descriptor"16:40
dwf_starbandhttp request sent, awaiting response... 401 unauthorized16:41
rhpot1991_laptopis your SD account active?16:41
dwf_starbandyeah16:41
rhpot1991_laptophttp://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=35816:41
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=== Spam|Dog is now known as Lossif
superm1keescook, you around?18:40
superm1keescook, rtg was saying you have a patch from upstream that will resolve unionfs with nfs issues.  laga was interested in testing it with mythbuntu-diskless stuff if you can point him at18:42
* laga idling18:43
LossifHey guys, I am having an issue with my mythbuntu livecd...19:03
LossifIt keeps freezing on the install, locking up at the:19:03
Lossif* Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)19:03
superm1odds are it's not freezing19:04
superm1but that X isn't coming up19:04
superm1hit ctrl alt f119:04
superm1and you can look at the logs in /var/log19:04
Lossifwell... now that you mention it when I use the live cd for 7.0419:04
rhpot1991_laptopbad burn maybe, is there any sort of disc check built in?19:04
Lossifit mentions that the xserver is not coming up19:04
Lossifor something19:05
Lossifnow... I just installed a new graphics card...19:05
Lossifwhen I tried to use the vga out on the motherboard19:05
Lossifit would not go much past the install menu19:06
Lossifthen the monitors would blank and they would give me their default error msg19:06
Lossifso I stuck in a card with a dvi and it got further, but  not much19:08
LossifI found this regarding it19:08
Lossifhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-590132.html19:08
Lossifbut... they talk about ATI cards and I have an asus nvidia card19:08
Lossifsuperm1: you were correct it was not frozen19:11
Lossifrhpot1991_laptop: I check the disc already and it passed19:11
grndslmi need help... I can't seem to get mythtv working anymore as it looks like there's some kinda hard drive issue with my /archive directory that is stores all recorded shows onto a separate hard drive that has LVM... here's all pertinent info:  http://pastebin.ca/87114019:21
superm1Lossif, well so try safe graphics mode19:26
superm1on your card(s)19:26
superm1and see if you have more luck there19:26
Lossifjust did19:26
Lossifand no such luck19:26
superm1alternatively you can try the 8.04 alpha disk19:26
superm1and see if it gets further (and has better support for your card)19:26
Lossifhmm19:26
Lossifis there any know issue with mythbuntu and PCI express cards?19:31
superm1well not pcie cards in particular19:32
superm1i use one myself :)19:32
LossifI wouldn't think so either... and this is a 2 year old card so I would have assumed it would be supported as well19:34
Lossifbut when I checked the log like you suggested19:34
Lossifit said that there was no display19:35
Lossifand that vesa had not been loaded19:35
superm1well you can try to tweak the /etc/X11/xorg.conf19:36
superm1see if it was just a funny installation19:37
superm1or even better you can install a restricted driver19:37
LossifI am booting off of a livecd19:37
superm1in command line19:37
superm1yeah its still there19:37
superm1even though its a livecd19:37
Lossifsorry, I forgot to mention I am a complete noob19:37
superm1Lossif, :)19:38
superm1Lossif, okay so is this an nvidia or ati card?19:38
superm1you said ati right?19:38
Lossifnvidia19:38
superm1okay what series?19:38
LossifI heard ati was flakey with linux19:38
superm15,6,7,8?19:38
Lossif620019:38
superm1okay install nvidia-glx-new19:38
superm1sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new19:38
Lossifone sec19:38
superm1and then you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf)19:38
Lossifstarted it to reboot19:39
superm1and change the line referrering to vesa to "nvidia"19:39
superm1after you do that, you can try to restart gdm19:39
superm1via19:39
superm1sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart19:39
Lossifhuh... that actually doesn't seem too to difficult19:39
superm1well if it works, that would be spectacular, and a solution for a lot of people that run into this19:40
superm1so the kernel modules are shipped, so its possible this will just "work" out fine19:40
Lossifok it stopepd the gnome display manager19:46
Lossifbut it failed to start19:46
superm1check the log again19:48
superm1and see19:48
LossifI just did it again... and it said it started the gnome display manager19:57
lime4x4I can't install the restricted drivers for a nvidia 7150 card when i do my screen goes to 860x640 resolution and if i try to enable a higher res my screen gets all fuzzy and unreadable20:01
tgm4883_laptoplime4x4, what kind of tv?20:05
lime4x4it's a 51 inch widescreen i'm connecting the pc to the tv thru a dvi cable20:06
lime4x4but it also does the samething on a 19 inch lcd panel20:06
Seeker`how does the "mute" work in myth? (i.e. which channel does it control?)20:07
Seeker`because when I press mute, I can still hear sound playing quietly20:07
tgm4883_laptopseeker i believe it is a program mute20:07
tgm4883_laptopalthough im not real sure as i always just use the tv mute20:07
Seeker`looking at alsamixer, it sets the PCM channel to '0'20:08
Seeker`but I have to mute the PCM channel to actually stop all sound20:09
lime4x4i went with a htpc motherboard with the nvidia onboard videovga,hdmi and dvi20:09
tgm4883_laptopon a side note, why would you use mute?20:10
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: Because it can be useful to silence the TV20:12
tgm4883_laptopbut why would you want to silence the tv?  I mean, if you get a phone call or something i can see needing it quiet, but you wouldn't want to miss the program so why not pause?20:12
Lossifcomercials20:13
tgm4883_laptopthis is a serious question, as i have wondered why we still have mute buttons20:13
tgm4883_laptopLossif, you guys watch commercials/20:13
tgm4883_laptop?20:13
Lossifwell... if you watch tv in real time ever20:13
Seeker`because I usually have the TV on as background noise while I'm working, so I'm not bothered about missing it, but i would like it to be quiet20:13
tgm4883_laptopwhats this real time thing?20:13
Lossifhah hah20:14
tgm4883_laptopSeeker`, now i'm really confused20:14
tgm4883_laptopyou want background noise, but you want to mute it?20:14
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: If I get a call etc. I want it to be quiet20:14
tgm4883_laptopah20:14
Lossifheck my grandfather has a tv with a "zoom" button...20:14
Lossiftalk about useless20:14
tgm4883_laptopwell, i must admit that the zoom feature isn't entirelly useless20:15
lagathere are some uses for that, but this channel is supposed to be family-friendly20:15
tgm4883_laptopfor instance, I have direct tv and have to use a pvr150 to get my channels20:15
tgm4883_laptopsome programs are broadcast in 16:9, although when they come in they are 4:3 (black bars on the top and bottom)20:16
tgm4883_laptopso zooming that fixes the issue for my widescreen tv's20:16
Lossifwell I don't mean zoom to full or widescreen20:16
Lossifhe has a  2:3 format tv20:16
tgm4883_laptopyou mean the zoom way in feature20:17
tgm4883_laptoplike zoom x1020:17
Lossifyep20:17
Lossifit just zooms in20:17
tgm4883_laptopit's so you can get closeups of nipples in porn20:17
laga"those are some delicious 60 pixels"20:17
tgm4883_laptopthats exactly what it is for, i'm 95% sure of it20:18
Lossifwell it just makes an already fuzzy picture20:18
Lossifeven fuzzier20:18
tgm4883_laptopthere are a couple features of the dvd spec specifically for the porn industry20:18
Lossifif I can get regular ubuntu 7.10 to work20:34
Lossifhow hard is it to get mythtv to work as a front/backend?20:34
Lossifor would you recomend just going with alpha 8.04?20:35
blkorpheusLossif, what is your particular question, I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish20:39
LossifI am having video issues that seem to be only popping with the mythbuntu 7.0420:40
blkorpheusoh20:40
Lossifhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-590132.html20:40
blkorpheuswell do you want a dedicated frontend or a complete machine with mythtv?20:40
blkorpheusI'd upgraded to 7.1020:41
blkorpheusI'd upgrad to 7.1020:41
blkorpheusI'd upgrade to 7.1020:41
Lossifalls I care about is mythtv20:41
Lossifdon't care to much about having a fully running operating system20:41
blkorpheusok, well just upgrade your mythbuntu box to 7.1020:42
blkorpheusbut there may be more to your issue than just the version20:42
blkorpheusdid it ever work correctly?20:42
Lossifyes it did20:42
Lossifthen I just put in a new graphics card...20:43
Lossifand the card works fine20:43
Lossiftested it in a windows box20:43
blkorpheusthere is your "problem" there20:45
blkorpheuswhocares what it does in windows?20:45
blkorpheusyou have to make sure in works in Linux20:45
Lossifwell... it is an old 6200 nvidia card20:47
Lossifasus20:47
blkorpheusshould work fine20:49
blkorpheusif you can20:49
blkorpheusinstall the driver from nvidias site20:49
blkorpheusI have a 620020:50
blkorpheusworks better withthe drivers from Nvidia20:50
blkorpheusI have not used ubuntu's packaged drivers since they started with the restricted manager stuff20:50
Lossifhow do you do that automitcally with a livecd?20:52
LossifI can't even get the live cd to get past the "* Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)"20:53
Lossifit goes to the menu20:53
Lossifbrings up the mythbuntu load screen20:54
rhpot1991_laptopblkorpheus: strange, I use the ubuntu drivers on my 6200 just fine20:54
rhpot1991_laptopnvidia drivers are easy as cake compared to the hell that is ati drivers20:54
Lossifthe cylon bar runs across for a bit20:54
MythbuntuGuest87hi all20:55
Lossifthen brings up this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3843/20:56
MythbuntuGuest87looking to setup mythbuntu box with blu ray and hd dvd playback is it possible?20:56
Lossifsuperm1 had me load the nvidia drivers then restart the gdm...20:58
Lossifbut I didn't know where to go from there20:58
MythbuntuGuest87can mythbuntu playback blu ray disks21:02
lagaMythbuntuGuest87: if you can play bluray/hd dvd on linux, you can play them in mythbuntu21:03
lagausually21:03
MythbuntuGuest87what about 1080p output no reduction in picture Q21:06
ravenniumanyone awake? I kinda fucked up my mythsystem... is it possible to edit xorg.conf anyway in the safe mode?21:08
ravenniumneed to remove EDID lines....21:08
rhpot1991_laptopravennium: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is where its at21:09
ravenniumi can't "access" it21:09
rhpot1991_laptopsudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf21:10
rhpot1991_laptop?21:10
ravenniumwhat's the vi?21:10
lagaif you have to ask21:10
lagause nano21:10
ravenniumok, how to exit vi... it says "/etc/x11/xorg.conf" [New Directory]21:11
ravenniumon the bottom21:11
rhpot1991_laptop:q!21:11
rhpot1991_laptoptype that21:12
rhpot1991_laptopcapitol X too21:12
rhpot1991_laptopin X11, thats why its saying new dir21:12
rhpot1991_laptopand use nano like laga said21:12
ravenniumhmm...21:13
ravenniumok I typed sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and still the fucker says New File21:14
ravenniumnope21:14
ravenniummisspelled...21:15
ravenniumstill a noob... but this x to X is tooooooooo embarassing...21:15
ravenniumokay now that you're awake... my problem is that when I connect my samsung Full HD lcd with DVI->HDMI straight to display adapter everything works fine... Now i would like to attach my amp to the chain, here's when the trouble starts. Yamaha seems to send bad EDID info to the HTPC and screws up the resolutions...21:17
lagacomplain to yamaha? ;)21:18
ravenniumlike they care :D21:18
ravenniumI have tried to put Option "edid" "False", Option "IgnoreEDID" and Option "UseEdid" "False" lines to the xorg.conf with no satisfactory results21:19
lagaravennium: check http://wiki.mythtv.org on that one21:20
ravenniumdoes it matter where I put it under Section Monitor? Like before or after identifier...21:20
ravenniumok21:20
lagathere's a lot of information wrt nvidia and edid21:20
Lossifif ctrl-alt-f1 gets me to the terminal... what gets me back?21:29
lagactrl-alt-f721:30
lagaor f8,f921:30
rhpot1991_laptopits also worth noting that ctl+alt+bckspc reboots x21:31
Lossifok... when I run the livecd and it starts to install mythbuntu my screen goes blank and my monitor displays "Cannot Display This Video Mode"21:31
LossifI hit ctrl-alt-f121:32
Lossifand it brigns up the terminal21:32
Lossifbut when I try to go back with f721:32
Lossifit displays the error msg21:32
superm1Lossif, while at the screen that your "monitor cant display the mode"21:32
superm1try to hit ctrl alt -21:32
superm1or ctrl alt +21:32
superm1those sometimes will toggle resolutions21:33
Lossifhey21:33
Lossifthere we go!21:33
superm1i had some errands to run for a bit21:33
superm1should have mentioned :)21:33
Lossifthis has been my problem the whole TIME!!!21:33
Lossifomfg!21:33
superm1does that work?21:33
Lossifyes!!!21:33
rhpot1991_laptopgo make that res your default then21:34
LossifHAHAHA! thank you thank you!21:34
superm1haha. wonderful21:34
superm1np21:34
rhpot1991_laptopsuperm1: http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=1422821:34
lime4x4any ideas on how to fix all these unknown devices?? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3844/21:35
superm1rhpot1991_laptop, that's functional21:35
superm1do you use ppope?21:35
superm1pppoe even21:35
rhpot1991_laptopnope :(21:36
rhpot1991_laptopbut its a start21:36
superm1well you can add it to boot21:36
superm1though in an init script21:36
superm1which should be enough for most cases21:37
superm1eg power outage21:37
rhpot1991_laptopya21:37
superm1very rare you lose your ip while router is on21:37
rhpot1991_laptopmine has been the same for 3+ months now21:37
rhpot1991_laptopto the point where I can't get rid of it when I want to21:37
superm1haha21:37
superm1why would you want to change it?'21:38
rhpot1991_laptopthere are some download services that let you download once per x time, used to be able to trick them by dropping my IP21:38
superm1oh well that and proxies :)21:38
rhpot1991_laptoplast I tried most proxies didn't work too well21:39
rhpot1991_laptopso I just gave up21:39
ravenniumlaga... after removing few false edid lines I got it working. Need to dig more about those edid's... fking yamaha... and for rhpot1991_laptop thanks for reminding me that x != X... fuck that I feel stupid :D21:39
superm1hey wasn't someone in here looking to set up at&t u-verse?21:39
superm1with myth21:39
superm1anyone remember who that was21:39
rhpot1991_laptopI didn't see anyone asking that21:39
rhpot1991_laptopcheck the logs?21:39
superm1yeah i'll have to21:39
rhpot1991_laptopanyone have any idea how fios runs with mythtv?21:40
superm1they're offering an awesome promotion by me right now, so....21:40
rhpot1991_laptopI've seen reports of 1-100 available without a STB21:40
rhpot1991_laptopcontemplating switching when I move21:40
superm1TazgoxX was21:40
rhpot1991_laptophaven't seen him in forever21:40
superm1this was two days ago21:41
rhpot1991_laptopheh, I'm just blind or on at the wrong time21:41
superm1well i wonder if AT&T is offering fibre too though21:41
superm1if so i'll ditch this time warner just for that21:41
superm1nope looks like just DSL21:42
rhpot1991_laptopI wonder when verizon plans on expanding their symetrical fios21:43
MythbuntuGuest26I have successfully installed front/backend on one machine. I have mapped to a FreeNAS server. I can view video and music files from the NAS. However the DVD player function only plays the warning statement of dvd's and shuts down. Any Idea?21:44
superm1MythbuntuGuest26, install the regionset util21:45
superm1and set your region21:45
superm1and then install libdvdcss221:45
MythbuntuGuest26thanks21:45
lime4x4how can i get a bigger screen for vnc?21:46
rhpot1991_laptopand then hope its not an sony ARccOS dvd21:47
MythbuntuGuest26How does a person become a member of this chat forum and not a Mythguest?21:47
superm1MythbuntuGuest26, you can change your nickname from the webclient, or use another client21:48
superm1like x-chat21:48
superm1or pidgin21:48
superm1or giam21:48
superm1*gaim21:48
MythbuntuGuest26thanks21:48
rhpot1991_laptopgaim no longer exists21:48
rhpot1991_laptopis pidgin21:48
superm1well older ubuntu releases21:48
superm1use gaim21:48
rhpot1991_laptoptrue21:48
superm1so in case on that21:48
MythbuntuGuest26what about windows based machines21:48
rhpot1991_laptopgo get pidgin21:48
rhpot1991_laptopor mirc or something the like21:49
rhpot1991_laptopmirc is only free for 30 days or something though, yuck21:49
superm1yuck mirc21:49
superm1use pidgin instead21:49
rhpot1991_laptoppidgin irc isn't half bad21:49
superm1or xchat was ported to windows21:49
superm1there is a pay version and a free version21:49
rhpot1991_laptopI like screen + bitchx, but not for multiple rooms21:49
superm1http://www.silverex.org/news/21:49
Lossifchatzilla rocks21:50
Lossifyou can even use it as a tab in firefox now21:50
* superm1 thinks these should all be added to the support page21:51
rhpot1991_laptopprob a good idea21:51
superm1http://mythbuntu.org/support21:56
superm1there we go21:56
superm1even with apt:// links and everything21:56
lime4x4so i'm i correct in assuming that if mythbuntu 7.10 can't install the right drivers gusty 7.10 won't either?22:19
superm1ya22:23
lime4x4so how would i go about installing and finding nvidia drivers?22:45
superm1newer card?22:48
superm1you have two options...22:48
superm1envy22:48
superm1or installing the .run22:48
superm1that nvidia ships22:48
lime4x4there are now .run files on the cd22:50
lime4x4it's an nforce 630i/geforce 7150 htpc motherbaord22:50
lime4x4i will try envy and c what happens22:51
rinaldi_hi, is there an option to shut down the backend system with a frontend from another computer?23:11
rinaldi_if so, how would i do it?23:13
tgm4883err, rinaldi_ you could do it from the command line23:14
rinaldi_tgm4883: how would i go about doing that?23:14
rinaldi_bit of a noob with this23:14
tgm4883ssh *backend ip address*23:15
tgm4883then just23:15
tgm4883sudo shutdown -h now23:15
rinaldi_;-)23:15
rinaldi_tgm4883: thanks23:16
tgm4883np23:16
blkorpheusrhpot1991_laptop, because I don't use the packaged nvidia drivers is no tto imply some defect in the ubuntu version.23:20
Lossifdoes the latest version of mythbuntu require to dload the latest dvd codecs to play a dvd?23:28
tgm4883Lossif, no23:40
tgm4883although23:40
tgm4883the question you probably meant to ask was23:40
tgm4883does mythbuntu require anything extra to play encrypted dvds23:40
tgm4883in which case the answer is yes23:40
Lossifand where might I find that "something extra"...?23:52

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