[00:04] <squish102> what is the best tool to take my dvd's and make them xvids so i can view them from mythtv and that they dont take too much space
[01:28] <lime4x4> is there a trick to get a nvidia  geforce 7150
[01:28] <lime4x4> too work
[01:28] <tgm4883_laptop> um, install the drivers?
[01:29] <lime4x4> i tried selecting restricted drivers and it still wants to use the vesa drivers
[01:29] <lime4x4> the video gpu is built into the board with dvi,vga and hdmi output
[01:30] <tgm4883_laptop> strange
[01:31] <lime4x4> this is the board i'm using http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813188021
[01:33] <lime4x4> i guess my next step is to try and install envy
[01:33] <tgm4883_laptop> !envy
[01:33] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[01:33] <lime4x4> i tried using the restricted drivers and there not installing
[01:35] <lime4x4> i went with that board cause it uses a nvidia chipset
[01:35] <lime4x4> and built in video
[01:37] <lime4x4> I just don't know why the restricted drivers aren't being installed/used
[01:39] <blkorpheus> ppl really have a difficult time installing the nvidia drivers from nvidia huh?
[01:39] <blkorpheus> its really simple
[01:40] <lime4x4> not really i have a gutsy box with dual geforce pci-e cards in sli mode and the restricted driver manager worked like a charm
[01:41] <blkorpheus> what do you mean not really, never said the restricted manager would not or does not work
[01:41] <blkorpheus> the nvidia drivers from the site, work better
[01:41] <lime4x4> it was in reference to your first post
[01:41] <blkorpheus> because they generally are newer than those in the repos
[01:42] <blkorpheus> the latest nvidia driver has a lot of fixes for compiz and whatnot
[01:42] <blkorpheus> eom
[01:43] <lime4x4> well i guess i will try and install the drivers from nvidia's site and c what happens
[01:45] <lime4x4> is 169.09 the latest version?
[01:46] <lime4x4> since my board uses a geforce 7150 should i install the legacy driver's instead?
[06:56] <compy> is it better to rip to .vob or .iso
[12:21] <eddan> When booting from the 7.10 cd, I've tried both normal install and safe graphics mode. But after some loading (including a mythtv boot screen), I'm suddenly stuck at in easybox with (initramfs) as prompt. Can I somehow disable the fancy mythtv boot screen so I can see what actually happens before it stops?
[12:36] <eddan> oh, it's busybox, not easybox :)
[12:59] <eddan> Is the alternative (text-mode) installer available for mythbuntu or is that ubuntu only?
[13:00] <laga> there's not text-mode installer for mythbuntu. you can just use the the alternative ubuntu installer and add mythbuntu later
[13:01] <eddan> ok... There's no drawbacks to that approach?
[13:03] <eddan> I mean, besides that I need to use a text-mode installer.
[13:05] <laga> well, since you want to do that it's not exactly a drawback .)
[13:05] <laga> um
[13:05] <laga> i think you won't get the mythbuntu mythtv theme that way
[13:05] <laga> but i wouldn't worry about that :)
[13:07] <jduggan> just install blootube :)
[13:07] <eddan> Hope I can skip kde (or gnome) during the install, total bloatware imho.
[13:08]  * laga not sure
[13:08] <laga> you don't get them if you do a server install, though
[13:08] <laga> but just try it :)
[13:09] <eddan> hang on
[13:11] <eddan> Hmm, I have a scsi cd-rom drive, do I need to pass some parameters to enable scsi support or something? So annoying that I don't get to see any error messages. ctrl+alt+f1 just shows Loading...
[13:12] <jduggan> dont know for sure but you may be able to pass nosplash as a boot option to stop the mythbuntu splash cscreen
[13:13] <eddan> jduggan: ah, will try.
[13:15] <eddan> nope, still got the splash screen.. I hit F6 and added "nosplash" in the end.
[13:18] <eddan> s/in/at
[13:26] <eddan> Ok, trying the text-mode installer now
[13:31] <Rimers> hi guys
[13:32] <Rimers> anyone got a nice sugestion as to what filesystem i should use for my new 500gb disk in my mythbuntu system?
[13:32] <Rimers> i want it to be nice, fast and reliable
[13:36] <Rimers> anyone??
[13:41] <directhex|work> Rimers, use ext3 for system partitions, xfs for recordings
[13:42] <directhex|work> Rimers, that's general best practice
[13:42] <Rimers> okay, thanks :) got my system partition sorted allready :) thanks
[13:44] <directhex|work> xfs is acceptable for system partitions if you feel daring, and/or have a big expensive support contract with sgi
[15:19]  * Viaken has never known XFS to be that unstable.
[15:21] <mindframe-> Viaken, it doesn't handle power loss well, as I recently learned.
[15:21] <mindframe-> other than that it's fantastic
[15:25] <rhpot1991_laptop> xfs on a usb drive mounted incorrectly can give you a heck of a headache
[15:25] <rhpot1991_laptop> had it corrupting the FS every time it would power down
[15:27] <Viaken> Ah. Might be why I haven't had troubles. My UPSs work fairly well.
[15:28] <rhpot1991_laptop> is it a usb drive, or an internal one?
[15:34] <Viaken> I use it on internal drives.
[15:35] <rhpot1991_laptop> try running the check/repair utilities on it, should be able to recover
[16:37] <dwf_starband> am i supposed to have a mythtv user?
[16:39] <dwf_starband> mythfilldatabase stoped working for me about the beginning of the year, I havent had time to mess with it till now, I was googeling about it and one guy said he was able to get it to run by loging in as the mythtv user, but i dont have a mythtv user, should i?
[16:39] <dwf_starband> and if i do, does the password matter? or will i need to change it somewhere as well?
[16:39] <rhpot1991_laptop> try running it by hand with whatever user you use on that box
[16:40] <dwf_starband> mythfilldatabase?
[16:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> yep
[16:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> hopefully it will give you some sort of hint as to what the problem is
[16:40] <dwf_starband> i just get errors, "failed writing http request: bad file descriptor"
[16:41] <dwf_starband> http request sent, awaiting response... 401 unauthorized
[16:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> is your SD account active?
[16:41] <dwf_starband> yeah
[16:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=358
[18:40] <superm1> keescook, you around?
[18:42] <superm1> keescook, rtg was saying you have a patch from upstream that will resolve unionfs with nfs issues.  laga was interested in testing it with mythbuntu-diskless stuff if you can point him at
[18:43]  * laga idling
[19:03] <Lossif> Hey guys, I am having an issue with my mythbuntu livecd...
[19:03] <Lossif> It keeps freezing on the install, locking up at the:
[19:03] <Lossif> * Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)
[19:04] <superm1> odds are it's not freezing
[19:04] <superm1> but that X isn't coming up
[19:04] <superm1> hit ctrl alt f1
[19:04] <superm1> and you can look at the logs in /var/log
[19:04] <Lossif> well... now that you mention it when I use the live cd for 7.04
[19:04] <rhpot1991_laptop> bad burn maybe, is there any sort of disc check built in?
[19:04] <Lossif> it mentions that the xserver is not coming up
[19:05] <Lossif> or something
[19:05] <Lossif> now... I just installed a new graphics card...
[19:05] <Lossif> when I tried to use the vga out on the motherboard
[19:06] <Lossif> it would not go much past the install menu
[19:06] <Lossif> then the monitors would blank and they would give me their default error msg
[19:08] <Lossif> so I stuck in a card with a dvi and it got further, but  not much
[19:08] <Lossif> I found this regarding it
[19:08] <Lossif> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-590132.html
[19:08] <Lossif> but... they talk about ATI cards and I have an asus nvidia card
[19:11] <Lossif> superm1: you were correct it was not frozen
[19:11] <Lossif> rhpot1991_laptop: I check the disc already and it passed
[19:21] <grndslm> i need help... I can't seem to get mythtv working anymore as it looks like there's some kinda hard drive issue with my /archive directory that is stores all recorded shows onto a separate hard drive that has LVM... here's all pertinent info:  http://pastebin.ca/871140
[19:26] <superm1> Lossif, well so try safe graphics mode
[19:26] <superm1> on your card(s)
[19:26] <superm1> and see if you have more luck there
[19:26] <Lossif> just did
[19:26] <Lossif> and no such luck
[19:26] <superm1> alternatively you can try the 8.04 alpha disk
[19:26] <superm1> and see if it gets further (and has better support for your card)
[19:26] <Lossif> hmm
[19:31] <Lossif> is there any know issue with mythbuntu and PCI express cards?
[19:32] <superm1> well not pcie cards in particular
[19:32] <superm1> i use one myself :)
[19:34] <Lossif> I wouldn't think so either... and this is a 2 year old card so I would have assumed it would be supported as well
[19:34] <Lossif> but when I checked the log like you suggested
[19:35] <Lossif> it said that there was no display
[19:35] <Lossif> and that vesa had not been loaded
[19:36] <superm1> well you can try to tweak the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:37] <superm1> see if it was just a funny installation
[19:37] <superm1> or even better you can install a restricted driver
[19:37] <Lossif> I am booting off of a livecd
[19:37] <superm1> in command line
[19:37] <superm1> yeah its still there
[19:37] <superm1> even though its a livecd
[19:37] <Lossif> sorry, I forgot to mention I am a complete noob
[19:38] <superm1> Lossif, :)
[19:38] <superm1> Lossif, okay so is this an nvidia or ati card?
[19:38] <superm1> you said ati right?
[19:38] <Lossif> nvidia
[19:38] <superm1> okay what series?
[19:38] <Lossif> I heard ati was flakey with linux
[19:38] <superm1> 5,6,7,8?
[19:38] <Lossif> 6200
[19:38] <superm1> okay install nvidia-glx-new
[19:38] <superm1> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[19:38] <Lossif> one sec
[19:38] <superm1> and then you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[19:39] <Lossif> started it to reboot
[19:39] <superm1> and change the line referrering to vesa to "nvidia"
[19:39] <superm1> after you do that, you can try to restart gdm
[19:39] <superm1> via
[19:39] <superm1> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[19:39] <Lossif> huh... that actually doesn't seem too to difficult
[19:40] <superm1> well if it works, that would be spectacular, and a solution for a lot of people that run into this
[19:40] <superm1> so the kernel modules are shipped, so its possible this will just "work" out fine
[19:46] <Lossif> ok it stopepd the gnome display manager
[19:46] <Lossif> but it failed to start
[19:48] <superm1> check the log again
[19:48] <superm1> and see
[19:57] <Lossif> I just did it again... and it said it started the gnome display manager
[20:01] <lime4x4> I can't install the restricted drivers for a nvidia 7150 card when i do my screen goes to 860x640 resolution and if i try to enable a higher res my screen gets all fuzzy and unreadable
[20:05] <tgm4883_laptop> lime4x4, what kind of tv?
[20:06] <lime4x4> it's a 51 inch widescreen i'm connecting the pc to the tv thru a dvi cable
[20:06] <lime4x4> but it also does the samething on a 19 inch lcd panel
[20:07] <Seeker`> how does the "mute" work in myth? (i.e. which channel does it control?)
[20:07] <Seeker`> because when I press mute, I can still hear sound playing quietly
[20:07] <tgm4883_laptop> seeker i believe it is a program mute
[20:07] <tgm4883_laptop> although im not real sure as i always just use the tv mute
[20:08] <Seeker`> looking at alsamixer, it sets the PCM channel to '0'
[20:09] <Seeker`> but I have to mute the PCM channel to actually stop all sound
[20:09] <lime4x4> i went with a htpc motherboard with the nvidia onboard videovga,hdmi and dvi
[20:10] <tgm4883_laptop> on a side note, why would you use mute?
[20:12] <Seeker`> tgm4883_laptop: Because it can be useful to silence the TV
[20:12] <tgm4883_laptop> but why would you want to silence the tv?  I mean, if you get a phone call or something i can see needing it quiet, but you wouldn't want to miss the program so why not pause?
[20:13] <Lossif> comercials
[20:13] <tgm4883_laptop> this is a serious question, as i have wondered why we still have mute buttons
[20:13] <tgm4883_laptop> Lossif, you guys watch commercials/
[20:13] <tgm4883_laptop> ?
[20:13] <Lossif> well... if you watch tv in real time ever
[20:13] <Seeker`> because I usually have the TV on as background noise while I'm working, so I'm not bothered about missing it, but i would like it to be quiet
[20:13] <tgm4883_laptop> whats this real time thing?
[20:14] <Lossif> hah hah
[20:14] <tgm4883_laptop> Seeker`, now i'm really confused
[20:14] <tgm4883_laptop> you want background noise, but you want to mute it?
[20:14] <Seeker`> tgm4883_laptop: If I get a call etc. I want it to be quiet
[20:14] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[20:14] <Lossif> heck my grandfather has a tv with a "zoom" button...
[20:14] <Lossif> talk about useless
[20:15] <tgm4883_laptop> well, i must admit that the zoom feature isn't entirelly useless
[20:15] <laga> there are some uses for that, but this channel is supposed to be family-friendly
[20:15] <tgm4883_laptop> for instance, I have direct tv and have to use a pvr150 to get my channels
[20:16] <tgm4883_laptop> some programs are broadcast in 16:9, although when they come in they are 4:3 (black bars on the top and bottom)
[20:16] <tgm4883_laptop> so zooming that fixes the issue for my widescreen tv's
[20:16] <Lossif> well I don't mean zoom to full or widescreen
[20:16] <Lossif> he has a  2:3 format tv
[20:17] <tgm4883_laptop> you mean the zoom way in feature
[20:17] <tgm4883_laptop> like zoom x10
[20:17] <Lossif> yep
[20:17] <Lossif> it just zooms in
[20:17] <tgm4883_laptop> it's so you can get closeups of nipples in porn
[20:17] <laga> "those are some delicious 60 pixels"
[20:18] <tgm4883_laptop> thats exactly what it is for, i'm 95% sure of it
[20:18] <Lossif> well it just makes an already fuzzy picture
[20:18] <Lossif> even fuzzier
[20:18] <tgm4883_laptop> there are a couple features of the dvd spec specifically for the porn industry
[20:34] <Lossif> if I can get regular ubuntu 7.10 to work
[20:34] <Lossif> how hard is it to get mythtv to work as a front/backend?
[20:35] <Lossif> or would you recomend just going with alpha 8.04?
[20:39] <blkorpheus> Lossif, what is your particular question, I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish
[20:40] <Lossif> I am having video issues that seem to be only popping with the mythbuntu 7.04
[20:40] <blkorpheus> oh
[20:40] <Lossif> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-590132.html
[20:40] <blkorpheus> well do you want a dedicated frontend or a complete machine with mythtv?
[20:41] <blkorpheus> I'd upgraded to 7.10
[20:41] <blkorpheus> I'd upgrad to 7.10
[20:41] <blkorpheus> I'd upgrade to 7.10
[20:41] <Lossif> alls I care about is mythtv
[20:41] <Lossif> don't care to much about having a fully running operating system
[20:42] <blkorpheus> ok, well just upgrade your mythbuntu box to 7.10
[20:42] <blkorpheus> but there may be more to your issue than just the version
[20:42] <blkorpheus> did it ever work correctly?
[20:42] <Lossif> yes it did
[20:43] <Lossif> then I just put in a new graphics card...
[20:43] <Lossif> and the card works fine
[20:43] <Lossif> tested it in a windows box
[20:45] <blkorpheus> there is your "problem" there
[20:45] <blkorpheus> whocares what it does in windows?
[20:45] <blkorpheus> you have to make sure in works in Linux
[20:47] <Lossif> well... it is an old 6200 nvidia card
[20:47] <Lossif> asus
[20:49] <blkorpheus> should work fine
[20:49] <blkorpheus> if you can
[20:49] <blkorpheus> install the driver from nvidias site
[20:50] <blkorpheus> I have a 6200
[20:50] <blkorpheus> works better withthe drivers from Nvidia
[20:50] <blkorpheus> I have not used ubuntu's packaged drivers since they started with the restricted manager stuff
[20:52] <Lossif> how do you do that automitcally with a livecd?
[20:53] <Lossif> I can't even get the live cd to get past the "* Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)"
[20:53] <Lossif> it goes to the menu
[20:54] <Lossif> brings up the mythbuntu load screen
[20:54] <rhpot1991_laptop> blkorpheus: strange, I use the ubuntu drivers on my 6200 just fine
[20:54] <rhpot1991_laptop> nvidia drivers are easy as cake compared to the hell that is ati drivers
[20:54] <Lossif> the cylon bar runs across for a bit
[20:55] <MythbuntuGuest87> hi all
[20:56] <Lossif> then brings up this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3843/
[20:56] <MythbuntuGuest87> looking to setup mythbuntu box with blu ray and hd dvd playback is it possible?
[20:58] <Lossif> superm1 had me load the nvidia drivers then restart the gdm...
[20:58] <Lossif> but I didn't know where to go from there
[21:02] <MythbuntuGuest87> can mythbuntu playback blu ray disks
[21:03] <laga> MythbuntuGuest87: if you can play bluray/hd dvd on linux, you can play them in mythbuntu
[21:03] <laga> usually
[21:06] <MythbuntuGuest87> what about 1080p output no reduction in picture Q
[21:08] <ravennium> anyone awake? I kinda fucked up my mythsystem... is it possible to edit xorg.conf anyway in the safe mode?
[21:08] <ravennium> need to remove EDID lines....
[21:09] <rhpot1991_laptop> ravennium: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is where its at
[21:09] <ravennium> i can't "access" it
[21:10] <rhpot1991_laptop> sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:10] <rhpot1991_laptop> ?
[21:10] <ravennium> what's the vi?
[21:10] <laga> if you have to ask
[21:10] <laga> use nano
[21:11] <ravennium> ok, how to exit vi... it says "/etc/x11/xorg.conf" [New Directory]
[21:11] <ravennium> on the bottom
[21:11] <rhpot1991_laptop> :q!
[21:12] <rhpot1991_laptop> type that
[21:12] <rhpot1991_laptop> capitol X too
[21:12] <rhpot1991_laptop> in X11, thats why its saying new dir
[21:12] <rhpot1991_laptop> and use nano like laga said
[21:13] <ravennium> hmm...
[21:14] <ravennium> ok I typed sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and still the fucker says New File
[21:14] <ravennium> nope
[21:15] <ravennium> misspelled...
[21:15] <ravennium> still a noob... but this x to X is tooooooooo embarassing...
[21:17] <ravennium> okay now that you're awake... my problem is that when I connect my samsung Full HD lcd with DVI->HDMI straight to display adapter everything works fine... Now i would like to attach my amp to the chain, here's when the trouble starts. Yamaha seems to send bad EDID info to the HTPC and screws up the resolutions...
[21:18] <laga> complain to yamaha? ;)
[21:18] <ravennium> like they care :D
[21:19] <ravennium> I have tried to put Option "edid" "False", Option "IgnoreEDID" and Option "UseEdid" "False" lines to the xorg.conf with no satisfactory results
[21:20] <laga> ravennium: check http://wiki.mythtv.org on that one
[21:20] <ravennium> does it matter where I put it under Section Monitor? Like before or after identifier...
[21:20] <ravennium> ok
[21:20] <laga> there's a lot of information wrt nvidia and edid
[21:29] <Lossif> if ctrl-alt-f1 gets me to the terminal... what gets me back?
[21:30] <laga> ctrl-alt-f7
[21:30] <laga> or f8,f9
[21:31] <rhpot1991_laptop> its also worth noting that ctl+alt+bckspc reboots x
[21:31] <Lossif> ok... when I run the livecd and it starts to install mythbuntu my screen goes blank and my monitor displays "Cannot Display This Video Mode"
[21:32] <Lossif> I hit ctrl-alt-f1
[21:32] <Lossif> and it brigns up the terminal
[21:32] <Lossif> but when I try to go back with f7
[21:32] <Lossif> it displays the error msg
[21:32] <superm1> Lossif, while at the screen that your "monitor cant display the mode"
[21:32] <superm1> try to hit ctrl alt -
[21:32] <superm1> or ctrl alt +
[21:33] <superm1> those sometimes will toggle resolutions
[21:33] <Lossif> hey
[21:33] <Lossif> there we go!
[21:33] <superm1> i had some errands to run for a bit
[21:33] <superm1> should have mentioned :)
[21:33] <Lossif> this has been my problem the whole TIME!!!
[21:33] <Lossif> omfg!
[21:33] <superm1> does that work?
[21:33] <Lossif> yes!!!
[21:34] <rhpot1991_laptop> go make that res your default then
[21:34] <Lossif> HAHAHA! thank you thank you!
[21:34] <superm1> haha. wonderful
[21:34] <superm1> np
[21:34] <rhpot1991_laptop> superm1: http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=14228
[21:35] <lime4x4> any ideas on how to fix all these unknown devices?? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3844/
[21:35] <superm1> rhpot1991_laptop, that's functional
[21:35] <superm1> do you use ppope?
[21:35] <superm1> pppoe even
[21:36] <rhpot1991_laptop> nope :(
[21:36] <rhpot1991_laptop> but its a start
[21:36] <superm1> well you can add it to boot
[21:36] <superm1> though in an init script
[21:37] <superm1> which should be enough for most cases
[21:37] <superm1> eg power outage
[21:37] <rhpot1991_laptop> ya
[21:37] <superm1> very rare you lose your ip while router is on
[21:37] <rhpot1991_laptop> mine has been the same for 3+ months now
[21:37] <rhpot1991_laptop> to the point where I can't get rid of it when I want to
[21:37] <superm1> haha
[21:38] <superm1> why would you want to change it?'
[21:38] <rhpot1991_laptop> there are some download services that let you download once per x time, used to be able to trick them by dropping my IP
[21:38] <superm1> oh well that and proxies :)
[21:39] <rhpot1991_laptop> last I tried most proxies didn't work too well
[21:39] <rhpot1991_laptop> so I just gave up
[21:39] <ravennium> laga... after removing few false edid lines I got it working. Need to dig more about those edid's... fking yamaha... and for rhpot1991_laptop thanks for reminding me that x != X... fuck that I feel stupid :D
[21:39] <superm1> hey wasn't someone in here looking to set up at&t u-verse?
[21:39] <superm1> with myth
[21:39] <superm1> anyone remember who that was
[21:39] <rhpot1991_laptop> I didn't see anyone asking that
[21:39] <rhpot1991_laptop> check the logs?
[21:39] <superm1> yeah i'll have to
[21:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> anyone have any idea how fios runs with mythtv?
[21:40] <superm1> they're offering an awesome promotion by me right now, so....
[21:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> I've seen reports of 1-100 available without a STB
[21:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> contemplating switching when I move
[21:40] <superm1> TazgoxX was
[21:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> haven't seen him in forever
[21:41] <superm1> this was two days ago
[21:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> heh, I'm just blind or on at the wrong time
[21:41] <superm1> well i wonder if AT&T is offering fibre too though
[21:41] <superm1> if so i'll ditch this time warner just for that
[21:42] <superm1> nope looks like just DSL
[21:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> I wonder when verizon plans on expanding their symetrical fios
[21:44] <MythbuntuGuest26> I have successfully installed front/backend on one machine. I have mapped to a FreeNAS server. I can view video and music files from the NAS. However the DVD player function only plays the warning statement of dvd's and shuts down. Any Idea?
[21:45] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest26, install the regionset util
[21:45] <superm1> and set your region
[21:45] <superm1> and then install libdvdcss2
[21:45] <MythbuntuGuest26> thanks
[21:46] <lime4x4> how can i get a bigger screen for vnc?
[21:47] <rhpot1991_laptop> and then hope its not an sony ARccOS dvd
[21:47] <MythbuntuGuest26> How does a person become a member of this chat forum and not a Mythguest?
[21:48] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest26, you can change your nickname from the webclient, or use another client
[21:48] <superm1> like x-chat
[21:48] <superm1> or pidgin
[21:48] <superm1> or giam
[21:48] <superm1> *gaim
[21:48] <MythbuntuGuest26> thanks
[21:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> gaim no longer exists
[21:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> is pidgin
[21:48] <superm1> well older ubuntu releases
[21:48] <superm1> use gaim
[21:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> true
[21:48] <superm1> so in case on that
[21:48] <MythbuntuGuest26> what about windows based machines
[21:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> go get pidgin
[21:49] <rhpot1991_laptop> or mirc or something the like
[21:49] <rhpot1991_laptop> mirc is only free for 30 days or something though, yuck
[21:49] <superm1> yuck mirc
[21:49] <superm1> use pidgin instead
[21:49] <rhpot1991_laptop> pidgin irc isn't half bad
[21:49] <superm1> or xchat was ported to windows
[21:49] <superm1> there is a pay version and a free version
[21:49] <rhpot1991_laptop> I like screen + bitchx, but not for multiple rooms
[21:49] <superm1> http://www.silverex.org/news/
[21:50] <Lossif> chatzilla rocks
[21:50] <Lossif> you can even use it as a tab in firefox now
[21:51]  * superm1 thinks these should all be added to the support page
[21:51] <rhpot1991_laptop> prob a good idea
[21:56] <superm1> http://mythbuntu.org/support
[21:56] <superm1> there we go
[21:56] <superm1> even with apt:// links and everything
[22:19] <lime4x4> so i'm i correct in assuming that if mythbuntu 7.10 can't install the right drivers gusty 7.10 won't either?
[22:23] <superm1> ya
[22:45] <lime4x4> so how would i go about installing and finding nvidia drivers?
[22:48] <superm1> newer card?
[22:48] <superm1> you have two options...
[22:48] <superm1> envy
[22:48] <superm1> or installing the .run
[22:48] <superm1> that nvidia ships
[22:50] <lime4x4> there are now .run files on the cd
[22:50] <lime4x4> it's an nforce 630i/geforce 7150 htpc motherbaord
[22:51] <lime4x4> i will try envy and c what happens
[23:11] <rinaldi_> hi, is there an option to shut down the backend system with a frontend from another computer?
[23:13] <rinaldi_> if so, how would i do it?
[23:14] <tgm4883> err, rinaldi_ you could do it from the command line
[23:14] <rinaldi_> tgm4883: how would i go about doing that?
[23:14] <rinaldi_> bit of a noob with this
[23:15] <tgm4883> ssh *backend ip address*
[23:15] <tgm4883> then just
[23:15] <tgm4883> sudo shutdown -h now
[23:15] <rinaldi_> ;-)
[23:16] <rinaldi_> tgm4883: thanks
[23:16] <tgm4883> np
[23:20] <blkorpheus> rhpot1991_laptop, because I don't use the packaged nvidia drivers is no tto imply some defect in the ubuntu version.
[23:28] <Lossif> does the latest version of mythbuntu require to dload the latest dvd codecs to play a dvd?
[23:40] <tgm4883> Lossif, no
[23:40] <tgm4883> although
[23:40] <tgm4883> the question you probably meant to ask was
[23:40] <tgm4883> does mythbuntu require anything extra to play encrypted dvds
[23:40] <tgm4883> in which case the answer is yes
[23:52] <Lossif> and where might I find that "something extra"...?