[00:00] <hola> Dioxin: root?
[00:00] <Taggnostr> is there a way to set konqueror as default?
[00:00] <nosrednaekim> !dolphin
[00:00] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[00:00] <Dioxin> Hola: I'm afraid I'm out of my depth there
[00:01] <Dioxin> hola: is the drive mounted?
[00:01] <drcode> btw: how can I switch languge by keyboard?
[00:02] <hola> Dioxin: i have a host with kub 7.10 with all drive mounted and i have a virtual machine (clinet) with no mount device
[00:02] <SlimeyPete> !nfs
[00:02] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[00:03] <Dioxin> Hola:I would guess either.. you dont have permission to access them... or enviroment isnt set correctly... best ask someone else tho
[00:05] <hola> Dioxin: on client they are not mounted because i dont know how to do it.....nfs?
[00:09] <phoenixz> Hi there, Im trying to automount a win2k3 share in kubuntu in the fstab using a credentials file for security but when I try to mount the dir, the mount command hangs.. Any idea what might be the cause? dmesg is not saying anything, the command is simply stalled
[00:10] <dappermuis> phoenixz: a mount command usually stall when its having problems reading the partition
[00:10] <dappermuis> thats been my experience
[00:11] <ubuntu> what do i have to tybe in console for adjusting the Xserver nu_*like it is at the basic installing}
[00:11] <phoenixz> dappermuis, well.. it mounted without problems 5 mins ago when I was _not_ using the credentials file.
[00:12] <nosrednaekim> then why are you using the credentials file?
[00:12] <muhkuh> what do i have to tybe in console for adjusting the Xserver nu_*like it is at the basic installing}
[00:13] <muhkuh> it should check the hole system new
[00:13] <dappermuis> phoenixz: like nosrednaekimsaid, there's your problem
[00:13] <dappermuis> muhkuh: i know what you're talking about, but i just can't remember the command
[00:13]  * dappermuis thinks
[00:13] <liz> hey all, when I try signing it to administrator mode it says "conversation with su failed" What's that??? Can anyone help???
[00:13] <muhkuh> holz sh...
[00:13] <muhkuh> ``
[00:14] <nosrednaekim> liz: in kde4?
[00:14] <dappermuis> muhkuh: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver
[00:14] <muhkuh> i did
[00:14] <phoenixz> nosrednaekim, the machine is used by multiple users, its for security, I dont want passwords flying around
[00:14] <dappermuis> muhkuh: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[00:14] <muhkuh> it doesn|t work
[00:14] <liz> yes in kde4 nosrenaekim
[00:14] <nosrednaekim> phoenixz: right
[00:14] <phoenixz> dappermuis, I think my problem is there as well, but.. how can I fix it?
[00:14] <nosrednaekim> liz: you need to run any admin apps from a konsole with "kdesudo appname" due to kde4's kdesu not using sudo
[00:15] <muhkuh> it is because that missunderstood mz grapic card .....
[00:15] <phoenixz> nosrednaekim, dappermuis, its only a credentials file.. just another place where the user+pass are located..
[00:15] <dappermuis> phoenixz: ya i know - i've never worked with a credentials file though, so i wouldn't know where to start looking
[00:15] <muhkuh> how can i let the szstem check the grapic card
[00:16] <liz> so it would be kdesudo networksettings?
[00:16] <dappermuis> muhkuh: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[00:16] <muhkuh> i did that does not work
[00:17] <dappermuis> muhkuh: what does it say?
[00:17] <muhkuh> i even installed the x new
[00:18] <muhkuh> something like fatal error
[00:18] <liz> can some sort of upgrade fix that?.... I used it a few minutes ago fine then when I tried again is when that error showed
[00:18] <dappermuis> liz: i used to get that error a long time ago...i found that either just waiting, or restarting usually fixed it
[00:19] <muhkuh> it worked till i did reconfigure
[00:19] <muhkuh> i did that cause i wanted to plaz a game whic wasn|t working
[00:19] <liz> I was thinking of restarting :) I sure do hope time will fix it dappermuis
[00:20] <muhkuh> linux really isn|t supposed to run games
[00:20] <dappermuis> liz: it should do...especially if it was working before
[00:20] <g2g591> muhkuh: there are a few decent games for linux, Tremulous and warzone2100 being two
[00:21] <liz> I have another question... in konsole how do you type a new line under the one u just typed??
[00:21] <muhkuh> zeah zeah and if i trz to run it i will sonn sit at installing the hole thing new
[00:21] <dappermuis> liz: what you mean? like enter 2 commands?
[00:21] <SlimeyPete> liz: you don't. You just hit enter and then put in a new line. Or do you mean in vi?
[00:21] <muhkuh> like i have to if i don|t get it back
[00:22] <liz> oh ok thx slimeypete
[00:22] <tinin> Hi, is kde4 avaliable for ppc?
[00:23] <liz> I dont know if u can type 2 commands... I'm new at this
[00:23] <SlimeyPete> liz: you'll get the hang of it with practice :)
[00:23] <muhkuh> i will only lose 60GB^^
[00:23] <Dioxin> if you need to type two commands try using /
[00:23] <Dioxin> ; even
[00:23] <dappermuis> liz: if you want you can type two commands on one line if you seperate them with a ;
[00:24] <muhkuh> me dummz just made a single root partition.....
[00:24] <Dioxin> but you can also use | if you want the commands to operate on the same inputs
[00:24] <liz> oh cool, thx dappermuis, I wrote that down :)
[00:24] <limac> hey, how can I copy from a cd using k3b having only one cd-drive
[00:24] <limac> ?
[00:24] <drcode> in kubuntu how can I switche between two lang?
[00:24] <drcode> I have en and heb
[00:24] <dappermuis> liz: sure, np
[00:24] <limac> copy cd
[00:24] <dappermuis> limac: check the option to "create image only" first
[00:25] <dappermuis> limac: then burn the cd image afterwards
[00:25] <limac> dappermuis: allrihgt, thank you very much :)
[00:25] <limac> dappermuis: wher is that option?
[00:25] <limac> where
[00:26] <liz> thx much everyone, you'll probably see me again..... and again.... and again... :)
[00:26] <imek> Hey, anyone know where I can find the settings for multimedia keyboards in KDE? I want to change the volume control to control PCM, and reduce the step size.
[00:26] <limac> dappermuis: nm, I found it! thanks btw
[00:26] <limac> :)
[00:26] <dappermuis> limac: when you click copy cd -> under settings
[00:26] <limac> I found it thank u
[00:26] <dappermuis> limac: :)
[00:26] <dappermuis> bye liz
[00:27] <muhkuh> if i would deinstall the hole xserver and get it new would it check mz szstem or will it have the same config as now_
[00:28] <Dioxin> if i wanted to harass peeps on irc about bash scripts where is the best place to go? :P
[00:28] <to0om> hi all
[00:28] <Dioxin> hello
[00:29] <to0om> i've got a problem: i have an external usb device which i'd like to mount to /home at boot time
[00:29] <to0om> so i specified it in my fstab as follows: "/dev/sdb1 /home           ext3    auto,hotplug,defaults        0       0"
[00:29] <to0om> ah, without hotplug: "/dev/sdb1 /home           ext3    auto,defaults        0       0"
[00:30] <muhkuh> how ca i COMPLETLY remove  the Xserver
[00:30] <to0om> so why isn't the device mounted automatically at boot time?
[00:30] <to0om> the option "auto" should normally do the trick, but it doesn't
[00:30] <to0om> the device doesn't mount
[00:31] <Dr_willis> try a 'sudo mount -a'  see if mounts then
[00:31] <Dr_willis> or gives an error message
[00:31] <val0> does anyone know of any other utils except acetone and poweriso to open .daa files?
[00:31] <to0om> Dr_willis: it does when i do sudo mount -a, but i'd like it to mount automatically
[00:32] <Dioxin> cant you place sudo mount -a into the start up script?
[00:32] <Dr_willis> that is mounting it autopmatically.  when the system boots up - it basicially does a 'sudo mount -a'
[00:32] <muhkuh> how ca i COMPLETLY remove  the Xserver ?
[00:32] <to0om> Dr_willis: mounting it by hand after boot works fine
[00:32] <Dr_willis> If you are saying its NOT mounting at boot up that is..  Theres somthing.. odd going on.
[00:32] <to0om> Dioxin: that's what ubuntu does automatically, all devices are mounted which are in the fstab
[00:33] <tekteen> muhkuh: sudo apt-get xserver-xorg.conf
[00:33] <to0om> but usb devices obviously don't work
[00:33] <Dr_willis> example minimal fstab entry -->  /dev/hdd1 /Public ext3 defaults 0 0
[00:33] <tekteen> muhkuh: oops
[00:33] <Dr_willis> mounts automatically. if its USB - THEN thats a whole nother issue.
[00:33] <tekteen> sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg.conf
[00:33] <muhkuh> i have to remove it first
[00:33] <muhkuh> aaah
[00:33] <tekteen> muhkuh: why
[00:33] <muhkuh> ^^
[00:33] <to0om> Dr_willis: any suggestions?
[00:33] <Dr_willis> its possible its not seeing the usb device when the mounting stuff is ran.
[00:34] <tekteen> It is only good for servers not to have x
[00:34] <Dr_willis> put the mount command in rc.local perhaps
[00:34] <muhkuh> cause i don|t get a GUI cause it figured out the wrong grapic card
[00:34] <tekteen> muhkuh: ok
[00:34] <tekteen> do not run that command
[00:34] <muhkuh> whz
[00:34] <to0om> Dr_willis: when is rc.local executed?
[00:34] <tekteen> sudo apt-get --purge xserver-xorg.conf would do it BUT...
[00:35] <tekteen> there is a command to reconfig xorg
[00:35] <tekteen> as if it were just being installed
[00:35] <muhkuh> but i ran the reconfig
[00:35] <muhkuh> and that is what it chrashed
[00:35] <tekteen> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.conf
[00:35] <tekteen> ok
[00:36] <tekteen> sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg.conf
[00:36] <to0om> Dr_willis: i'll try that with rc.local
[00:36] <tekteen> purge will remove config files
[00:36] <muhkuh> anyway i have debian so it may wont work anyway
[00:37] <muhkuh> noone answers on debian
[00:37] <muhkuh> and i run a kubuntu live cd now
[00:37] <tekteen> muhkuh: what are you trying to do now?
[00:38] <muhkuh> but i have to reboot cause i vcannot mount the filesys
[00:38] <tekteen> ok
[00:38] <muhkuh> i just want the GUI back which i kille with the reconfig
[00:38] <muhkuh> on debian 4.0 ETCH
[00:38] <muhkuh> so ill go try ^^
[00:39] <muhkuh> thank zou
[00:39] <tekteen> np
[00:40] <muhkuh> i will come back anyway cause it wont work
[00:40] <muhkuh> nothing i want to do workds ^^
[00:42] <Alyxander> ok that is im done all i want is dual monitoring
[00:45] <nosrednaekim> !dualhead
[00:45] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[00:46] <to0om> Dr_willis: putting mount -a into rc.local didn't solve the problem
[00:47] <joe__> wow there's a lot of ppl in here...
[00:47] <to0om> Dr_willis: i guess the usb storage driver isn't present when the default-mount is executed at boot
[00:48] <joe__> I gotta question ppl..
[00:48] <joe__> How do I go about getting Divx on here?
[00:48] <SlimeyPete> !divx
[00:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:49] <SlimeyPete> quickest way is to just install and use vlc
[00:49] <joe__> yeah tried those didn't seem to work very well lol
[00:49] <joe__> vlc?
[00:49] <joe__> btw I'm a n00b at Linux
[00:49] <blizzzek> gn8
[00:50] <SlimeyPete> it's a player. You can use Adept to install it.
[00:50] <SlimeyPete> It plays pretty much anything
[00:50] <joe__> my apologies for my lack of experience
[00:50] <Dr_willis> !vlc
[00:50] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[00:50] <Dr_willis> Its a movie player program :)
[00:50] <joe__> ahh ok ty
[00:51] <Dr_willis> i even use it under windows
[00:51] <joe__> does it support most formats?
[00:51] <Aranel> how can I capture(record) my screen in 3d apps ?
[00:51] <joe__> really??
[00:51] <Dr_willis> most every for mat ive ever thrown at it.
[00:51] <joe__> coolness
[00:51] <joe__> I"ll hafta check it out
[00:51] <joe__> brb ppl
[00:51] <Lrrr> I'm getting an exception and i have no idea what it means
[00:51] <Lrrr> Incorrect string value: '\xD0\x84\xCE\xBD\xCE\xB1...' for column 'name' at row 1
[00:52] <Lrrr> what exactly is incorrect about it?
[00:52] <Dr_willis> Lrrr,  whats saying that?
[00:52] <payan> Hi everyone. I can't get subtitles to work properly. Always missing most lines. (Using VLC)
[00:52] <payan> ...or any
[00:52] <Lrrr> when i view a page, i get that on the standard debug screen
[00:53] <Kobol> Anyone know a way to install KDE4.0 on Gutsy?
[00:53] <SlimeyPete> !kde4
[00:53] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:53] <Dr_willis> Kobol,  read the topic? :)
[00:53] <joe__> does vlc stand for anything in particular b/c when searching for it it's not finding anything
[00:53] <Dr_willis> Video lan client.
[00:54] <SlimeyPete> j
[00:54] <SlimeyPete> joe__: search for vlc in adept
[00:54] <joe__> k thanx
[00:54] <SlimeyPete> it should appear
[00:54] <joe__> yep I am
[00:54] <Dr_willis> first hit on google here. :) well the 3rd link actually
[00:54] <joe__> not finding "vlc"
[00:54] <Lrrr> the string value in question is "Єναη the Сяαzу" -- when i try to save a model with that string in a charfield, i get the "incorrect string value" exception
[00:54] <Dr_willis> !info vlc
[00:54] <ubotu> vlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 1134 kB, installed size 3228 kB
[00:54] <Dr_willis> you may need to enable the other repositories
[00:54] <joe__> other repositories?
[00:54] <Lrrr> oh wait
[00:55] <SlimeyPete> joe__: if you have the latest kubuntu they're enabled by default
[00:55] <joe__> k
[00:55] <Kobol> Dr_willis: hey get spammed out so quickly I hardly get to read it :( Missed that, sorry.
[00:57] <joe__> hmm seems as though I only have Ubuntu repoitories listed...
[00:58] <joe__> meh I'll go google route... a bit more familiar
[00:59] <joe__> w00t there it is
[00:59] <joe__> d/lding now
[01:00] <joe__> (never used IRC either lol)
[01:01] <tekteen> joe__: ubuntu and kubuntu repos are the same
[01:01] <joe__> ahhh ok
[01:01] <tekteen> unless you count the kubuntu bleeding edge repo
[01:01] <tekteen> which is different
[01:01] <joe__> lol figgers
[01:03] <joe__> oh ok I remember vlc
[01:03] <Dr_willis> then theres the dozen+ ubuntu variants with their own repos.
[01:03] <joe__> had it on other PC
[01:03] <Dr_willis> vlc is in the repositories. You should be able to do a 'sudo apt-get install vlc'
[01:03] <Dr_willis> you RARELY 'download stuff from the web' for linux.  :)
[01:04] <joe__> meh just got it from google
[01:04] <Dr_willis> did you try the   'sudo apt-get install vlc'  yet? i woudl suggest doing it that way
[01:04] <joe__> yeah been figgering that out lol
[01:04] <Dr_willis> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[01:05] <joe__> nah got WINE so I installed it with that
[01:05] <Dr_willis> wine? thats just being ...err...  pathic. :)
[01:05] <Dr_willis> since its IN THE REPOS. :)
[01:05] <joe__> .... didn't I say I'm a n00b?
[01:06] <joe__> :p
[01:06] <Dr_willis> ive also pasted the exact command 4 different times
[01:06] <Dr_willis> well 2 :)
[01:06] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install vlc
[01:06] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install vlc
[01:06] <Dr_willis> theres 4 :)
[01:06] <joe__> lol
[01:06] <Dr_willis> or use the add/remove programs icon
[01:06] <Dr_willis> what Version of Kubuntu are you using? it may be  in a diffrent spot for the older ones
[01:07] <joe__> so what's wrong w/ wine?
[01:07] <Dr_willis> joe__,  its not needed wh4en theres a linux native port for one thing.
[01:07] <Dr_willis> it wont be as integerated as the normal vlc for another
[01:07] <Dr_willis> it will run slower for another.
[01:07] <joe__> ummm the one that gets installed when u type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:08] <joe__> in term.
[01:08] <joe__> *shrug*
[01:08] <Dr_willis> joe__,  try lsb_release  -a
[01:08] <joe__> k hold on
[01:08] <Dr_willis> Release:        7.10
[01:08] <Dr_willis> thats the latest release. 7.10
[01:10] <joe__> weird
[01:10] <joe__> it only gave me my Ubuntu version
[01:10] <tekteen> what do you mean weird
[01:10] <Dr_willis> did you do the -a ?
[01:10] <joe__> aye
[01:10] <joe__> question:
[01:11] <joe__> is Ubuntu and Kubuntu the sme thing?
[01:11] <joe__> same*
[01:11] <Dr_willis> basicially yes.
[01:11] <tekteen> yes
[01:11] <joe__> k
[01:11] <joe__> than I"m running 6.06
[01:11] <Dr_willis> different 'face'
[01:11] <tekteen> different default installed programs
[01:11] <Dr_willis> egads 6.06 - that explains a lot.
[01:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:11] <joe__> right I can use the KDE environment on top of Ubuntu OS correct?
[01:12] <tekteen> that is what kubuntu is
[01:12] <joe__> k thought so
[01:12] <Dr_willis> You can install kde on ubuntu, and ubuntu on kubuntu. yes.
[01:12] <joe__> but yeah these disks are rather old I got them a while ago
[01:12] <joe__> never used them b/c I was too comfy with Windows
[01:13] <Dr_willis> I would suggest either  reinstailling from a 7.10 disk. or doing some upgrades.
[01:13] <joe__> and now I can't run WIndows on my PC b/c I"m using a CRAPPY one
[01:13] <Dr_willis> if you insist onkeeping 6.06 - then this page tells ya what to do   http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[01:13] <phoenixz> Im trying to automount a win2k3 share in kubuntu in the fstab using a credentials file for security. but when I try to mount the dir, the mount command hangs.. Any idea what might be the cause? dmesg is not saying anything, the command just hangs..
[01:14] <joe__> ok so is there a site I can order the 7.10 version?
[01:14] <Dr_willis> I just download the cd's :)
[01:14] <joe__> or d/ld it?
[01:14] <joe__> lol
[01:14] <Dr_willis> Kubuntu homepage for one.
[01:14] <joe__> meh I don't much like commandeering my g/fs laptop
[01:15] <Dr_willis> 700mb download.
[01:15] <BluesKaj> just "borrow' it for a while :)
[01:16] <joe__> lol
[01:16] <joe__> pooh I"m not a member... brb while I order these CDs
[01:16] <bmk789> any KDE programmers interesting in making a personal inventory app?
[01:16] <darkchild> who's tried kde4? :-)
[01:16] <Dr_willis> order? Member? Huh?
[01:17] <tekteen> darkchild: me
[01:17] <darkchild> what do you think tekteen?
[01:17] <tekteen> darkchild: also go to #kubuntu-kde4
[01:17] <Dr_willis> http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[01:17] <unagi_> how much different is an install from the livecd
[01:17] <tekteen> unagi_: very
[01:17] <tekteen> do not use it if you want a nice gui based install
[01:18] <unagi_> no no i mean
[01:18] <joe__> lol
[01:18] <unagi_> from the livcd version of kubuntu to the installed kubuntu
[01:18] <joe__> "request CDs"
[01:18] <unagi_> is there anything different?
[01:18] <joe__> have to sign into the site
[01:18] <darkchild> just faster mostly
[01:18] <Dr_willis> joe__,  shipit service will take a few weeks to get you a cd.
[01:18] <Dr_willis> !shipit | joe__
[01:18] <ubotu> joe__: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs
[01:18] <joe__> meh no worries
[01:18] <unagi_> because i noticed my brightness buttons didnt work
[01:18] <Dr_willis> joe__,  by the time ya get them - the next release is out. :P
[01:18] <joe__> lmao gr8
[01:19] <unagi_> is there a reason that my brightness buttons work with ubuntu and not kubuntu?
[01:19] <tekteen> unagi_: there is a reason. kde may not support it.
[01:20] <Dr_willis> gnome must have the keys maped properly
[01:20] <unagi_> interesting
[01:20] <tekteen> unagi_: or the battery manager runs it
[01:20] <Dr_willis> ive had the reverse to be true on some laptops.
[01:20] <unagi_> there were many things about kde that made me want to switch
[01:20] <unagi_> dialup over bluetooth was fairly less of a hassle
[01:20] <tekteen> unagi_: we, here like kde
[01:20] <unagi_> speaking of which what is the name of the dial up app in kubuntu
[01:21] <unagi_> kppp?
[01:21] <tekteen> unagi_: kppp
[01:21] <unagi_> thanks
[01:21] <tekteen> yep
[01:21] <unagi_> that was a pretty streamline program
[01:22] <unagi_> what i dont get is why gnome and kde have wireless managers that you cant refresh the list....
[01:22] <joe__> k got them ordered
[01:22] <tekteen> unagi_: modify it and send it in :-D
[01:23] <unagi_> lol ive been trying to make a bash script that allows me to set the input and out put of a mencoder string
[01:23] <joe__> that one I know lol
[01:23] <unagi_> one step at a time =)
[01:23] <unagi_> joe__: why not just dl the cds?
[01:23] <joe__> kppp=name of dial up app
[01:23] <joe__> thinking about going to bed in a min. lol
[01:23] <unagi_> huh?
[01:23] <joe__> don't really want to
[01:23] <unagi> lol why not
[01:23] <unagi> took me 10 minutes
[01:24] <joe__> it involves my g/fs vista laptop that she has going REALLY SLOW
[01:24] <unagi> erm
[01:24] <unagi> what pc are u on now
[01:24] <tekteen> get XP if not kubuntu
[01:24] <joe__> my 600 Mhz PC runs faster than her laptop
[01:24] <joe__> my desktop
[01:24] <joe__> (spare desktop)
[01:25] <unagi> and so.........why not just dl it
[01:25] <joe__> hmmm might be able to burn it...
[01:25]  * unagi is lost
[01:25] <joe__> lol
[01:25] <joe__> don't worry
[01:25] <joe__> I"M here
[01:25] <argnel> what would i have to do to swing from amd64 to i386?
[01:25] <joe__> lol
[01:26] <joe__> switch processors?
[01:26]  * argnel gets out a chisel
[01:26] <joe__> and d/ld new package?
[01:26] <tekteen> argnel: reinstall
[01:26] <argnel> erf
[01:27] <tekteen> argnel: you can run some 32bit program
[01:27] <genius> hi guys
[01:27] <tekteen> programs*
[01:27] <joe__> hey genius
[01:27] <tekteen> !hi | genius
[01:27] <ubotu> genius: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:27] <unagi> !twss
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <unagi> !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:27] <unagi> but!
[01:27] <unagi> thats what she said!
[01:28] <joe__> !msttcorefonts
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msttcorefonts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <joe__> figgers
[01:28] <tekteen> !msfonts
[01:28] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:28] <genius> i have problem i loaded kboot on ps3 and its a ubuntu ps3 kboot loader (thats the name on top). but i am tyring to install the kubuntu on ps3. can anybody tell me from ur experience what to do here
[01:29] <unagi> does installing kde-desktop automatically get rid of gnome?
[01:29] <joe__> \has no experience running an OS on a PS3
[01:29] <tekteen> unagi: no
[01:29] <tekteen> unagi: it allows a choice in the login manager
[01:29] <argnel> anyone got a bug # for "The Flash plugin installation is currently broken"?
[01:29] <unagi> oooooh
[01:29] <tekteen> !flash
[01:29] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:29] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[01:30] <argnel> tekteen: thanks
[01:30] <unagi> so i could install kde to see if i like how it is with my ubuntu install and if i dont then uninstall it?
[01:30] <tekteen> argnel: install flash through firefox
[01:30] <unagi> gnome will still be intact?
[01:30] <tekteen> unagi: yes
[01:30] <joe__> yes
[01:30] <tekteen> unagi: I have both
[01:31] <joe__> w00t I knew that one too
[01:31] <tekteen> unagi: and kde4 and icewm
[01:31] <phoenixz> Anybody else available who might know why mount cifs is hanging when I use a credentials file?
[01:31] <joe__> I"m doin better than I thought I would lol
[01:31] <unagi> why would u ned both tekteen
[01:31] <tekteen> unagi: no reason
[01:31] <joe__> just in case he didn't like one or the other
[01:31] <unagi> will my awn and compiz still run with kde
[01:31] <tekteen> unagi: mostly to show people gnome
[01:31] <tekteen> unagi: you need compiz-kde
[01:32] <unagi> thats anew one one me
[01:32] <unagi> on*
[01:32] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[01:32] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[01:32] <genius> anybody plz. any of u has kubuntu on ps
[01:32] <genius> ps3
[01:32] <joe__> Heck I don't even have a PS3
[01:32] <joe__> so what is compiz?
[01:32] <tekteen> genius: neither do I
[01:33] <tekteen> joe__: look it up on youtube
[01:33] <tekteen> I can not explain it
[01:33] <joe__> k
[01:33] <g2g591> joe_: flashy visual effects program
[01:33] <joe__> ahh
[01:33] <joe__> k brb
[01:33] <phoenixz> genius, I heard that linux should would on PS3 but you might have better luck on google
[01:33] <tekteen> g2g591: that works :-)
[01:33] <genius> yes it does work
[01:33] <tekteen> lol
[01:34] <genius> sony supports it with yellow dog linux but most guides are for ubuntu
[01:34] <genius> i want to put kubuntu
[01:34] <tekteen> genius: ubuntu guides should work
[01:34] <joe__> *wish I had a better PC*
[01:34] <g2g591> genius:guides for ubuntu should work with only very slight modding
[01:34] <Dr_willis> http://psubuntu.com/
[01:34] <tekteen> joe__: so do I
[01:34] <genius> tekteen no b/c they are for live cd
[01:34] <genius> i am using alternate install
[01:35] <tekteen> genius: why?
[01:35] <genius> do u guys know the command for executing alternative text install from kboot (boot loader)
[01:35] <joe__> and your right it is flashy lol
[01:35] <genius> b/c kubuntu doesn't have live for ps3
[01:35] <Dr_willis> hmm.. fromw hat i am reading you MUST use the ps3 specilized ubuntu cd - NOT a normal ubuntu/kubuntu cd
[01:35] <tekteen> joe__: It works great
[01:35] <tekteen> joe__: I got bored of it
[01:36] <tekteen> joe__: So I run it to show off
[01:36] <joe__> my PC prolly wouldn't be able to handle it
[01:36] <genius> dr_willis kubuntu alternative install for ppc + ps3.iso
[01:36] <genius> thats what i downloaded
[01:36] <tekteen> joe__: many can
[01:36] <SGL> Hello. I have a problem!
[01:36] <joe__> 600 Mhz CPU?
[01:36] <SGL> My upload has gone down to like 2 kbps
[01:36] <SGL> on a LAN!
[01:36] <joe__> I think not lol
[01:36] <SGL> Does anyone know what can be my problem?
[01:36] <g2g591> joe_: it depends on the graphics (if you have nvidia, you probabily can)
[01:36] <tekteen> joe__: why not. just have a Graphics card with 3D acceleration
[01:37] <g2g591> joe_: oh , i think that might be a little low
[01:37] <joe__> was debating on installing my graphics card on this POS PC and see if that improves anything
[01:37] <joe__> lol
[01:37] <Dr_willis> genius,  no idea then. jus treading at psubuntu.com
[01:37] <g2g591> joe_: it works fine on 2.4Ghz and only 512 ram
[01:37] <joe__> same wavelength tekteen/g2g
[01:37] <tekteen> SGL: any other info
[01:37] <genius> Dr_willis thats what i am looking at right now thx
[01:37] <SGL> Not much
[01:37] <joe__> ummm
[01:37] <genius> will share my findings
[01:38] <Amsunaakage> genius found any help yet ??
[01:38] <SGL> SSH, FTP and HTTP all not working properly
[01:38] <tekteen> SGL: do other computer work?
[01:38] <SGL> I have xampp installed
[01:38] <genius> amsuna working on it
[01:38] <SGL> yes
[01:38] <SGL> Well, to the internet
[01:38] <tekteen> ok
[01:38] <tekteen> I do not know
[01:38] <SGL> Haha
[01:38] <SGL> ok
[01:38] <SGL> Does anyone else know what could be the problem of my upload being down to 2kbps?
[01:39] <genius> amsunaakage i think i know what the problem is i have to use kubuntu specific kboot (loader)
[01:39] <tekteen> SGL: over the internet or LAN
[01:39] <SGL> LAN
[01:39] <tekteen> no idea then :-)
[01:40] <unagi> why would u install linux on a ps3
[01:40] <tekteen> unagi: nice computer
[01:40] <darkchild> the ps3 is a nice powerpc computer :-)
[01:40] <tekteen> unagi: also know as why not?
[01:40] <tekteen> :-)
[01:40] <unagi> i guess
[01:40] <Dr_willis> from what  i read kboot is  built intot he ps3
[01:40] <joe__> crap
[01:40] <unagi> i see better computing power from 360
[01:40] <joe__> just found out I don't have enough RAM to run 7.10
[01:41] <tekteen> joe__: How much do you have?
[01:41] <joe__> tekteen: not much
[01:41] <joe__> not sure how to check on Linux
[01:41] <tekteen> joe__: I like numbers
[01:42] <g2g591> joe_: free in konsole should give you a total
[01:42] <tekteen> joe__: less /proc/memtest
[01:42] <joe__> tekteen: yeah I know sorry...
[01:42] <tekteen> np
[01:42] <joe__> k brb
[01:42] <g2g591> joe_: or tekteen's
[01:42] <scauley> is there support for postfix here
[01:42] <genius> yay i loaded the kubuntu kboot it worked
[01:43] <genius> it freakishly fast
[01:43] <tekteen> oops
[01:43] <tekteen> less /proc/meminfo
[01:43] <joe__> ah ha 255424 total
[01:43] <tekteen> lol :-D
[01:44] <tekteen> joe__: that is enough with swap
[01:44] <tekteen> just no games
[01:44] <tekteen> or compiz
[01:44] <joe__> swap is 746980
[01:44] <tekteen> good
[01:44] <joe__> hmmm kk
[01:44] <tekteen> you can use 7.10
[01:44] <joe__> I stand corrected
[01:44] <darkchild> the beauty of linux is it will still run on a 386...let's hope it stays that way
[01:44] <joe__> :)
[01:44] <tekteen> It may be a little slow
[01:45] <joe__> heh it's SLOW already...
[01:45] <joe__> with choppy flash and video
[01:45] <tekteen> joe__: it wont slow much more
[01:45] <g2g591> joe_: i think swap helps a lot, with 512 I have a (overtly large) 1.9 Gig swap partation, it never gets more than half way full, even while compiling
[01:45] <joe__> hopefully
[01:45] <joe__> nice
[01:46] <g2g591> joe__: try running free -t to see how low it gets
[01:46]  * tekteen has 2,9 GB of swap
[01:46]  * g2g591 thinks tekteen has way too much swap
[01:46] <joe__> same numbers
[01:47]  * tekteen want to upgrade to 2GB of ram
[01:47] <joe__> I need a new MOBO for my old PC is all lol
[01:47]  * g2g591 uses only about half of 1.9 Gig, even while compiling something huge like glibc (on Gentoo dual-boot)
[01:47]  * tekteen also has vista ( andnot happy about it)
[01:47] <tyson_> hello. I have inadvertantly changed the monitor in system settings to a monitor that isnt mine. I have a hp laptop, is there a way i can find out which hp monitor i should choose?
[01:47] <Amsunaakage> bye bye nice people going to sleep
[01:47] <joe__> aye Vista sux
[01:47] <genius> bye amusnaakage
[01:48] <joe__> hasta amuns
[01:48]  * g2g591 's vista was so sluggish, he switched to linux
[01:48] <BluesKaj> joe__, this isn't a windows bash chat ... lets hear the good stuff about linux
[01:49]  * tekteen has not use vista yet but needs more ram to run both vista nad americas army
[01:49] <joe__> tyson_: google search your type of laptop and see if they can tell ya
[01:49] <g2g591> tyson_: don't " choose" a monitor, if you know the appropriate resolution, you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to set it to the right settings
[01:49] <Dr_willis> Linux is better then windows.. :) hows that BluesKaj ? :)
[01:49] <joe__> oh ok BLue
[01:49] <joe__> lol
[01:49] <tekteen> Dr_willis: true
[01:49] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, :)
[01:49] <joe__> umm as a first timer at Linux I got quite frustrated when trying to "mount" my other hard drive
[01:49] <tyson_> joe: im trying, having no luck
[01:50] <joe__> hmmm
[01:50] <Dr_willis> It pays to spend some time learning the funamentals of Linux.
[01:50] <joe__> I"ll bet it does
[01:50] <tyson_> g2g591: i inadvertatly already did, so i am trying to switch it back to what it was
[01:50] <Dr_willis> Not just   pasteing in 'mythical' commands that you hope may do what you want. :)
[01:50] <g2g591> joe__: for a start, mostly every command has a --help function
[01:51] <tekteen> Dr_willis: I like to paste commands
[01:51] <g2g591> joe__: also see man command for a small manual (other things may need googling
[01:51] <joe__> yeah but I've never really been one to "get into" the ins and outs of an OS
[01:51] <tekteen> Dr_willis: I love sudo rm -rf / *** DO NOT USE ***
[01:52] <tekteen> Dr_willis: the warning is for people watching
[01:52] <joe__> meh I"m jsut using this POS to try to find a job and surf around
[01:53] <joe__> oh wow you can open konsole from konversation...
[01:54] <joe__> that would have been helpful about 5 minutes ago lol
[01:54] <joe__> so who are all those ppl over there and why aint the saying anything?
[01:55] <joe__> *cricket cricket*
[01:55] <BluesKaj> joe__, I often wonder about that myself ...12 ppl chatting and 330 lurkers :)
[01:56] <joe__> aye I know
[01:56] <tekteen> yep
[01:56] <tekteen> I call them ghosts
[01:56] <joe__> oooooooooooooooooooooo
[01:56] <joe__> lol
[01:56] <tekteen> they are here and not here
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> booo
[01:56] <BluesKaj> tv-time for an hr or so, BBL
[01:57] <joe__> lol
[01:57] <joe__> allrighty guys I"m out as well I need to head to bed
[01:57] <joe__> night
[01:57] <tyson_> g2g591: i did what u suggested, but its not getting the correct resolutions i had
[01:59] <jhend60> hi everyone
[01:59] <jhend60> i have a big prob
[01:59] <jhend60> last night i had to reinstall kubuntu
[01:59] <jhend60> because when I updated it stopped the adept package manager from working, and i couldnt do any mroe updates.
[02:00] <jhend60> has this happened to anyone? example=geting fresh install then updating has an error
[02:00] <jhend60> and now i cant run it
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> jhend60: you can always use the command line to restore everything...
[02:00] <darkchild> did you try a dpkg --configure?
[02:01] <jhend60> i think so b ut it says database is lock
[02:01] <darkchild> gotcha..hmm
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[02:01] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[02:02] <jhend60> ill try that thanks
[02:06] <tyson_> is there a program that can tell me exactly what monitor i have so i can choose the right one in the system settings? (its a hp laptop)
[02:07] <zumba> which model?
[02:07] <Dr_willis> normally you just need to set the proper res. and it will be ok
[02:07] <tyson_> dv9220us
[02:07] <zumba> is it a 15 or 17?
[02:07] <tyson_> 17 wide
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: freind has the same one... the res is 1440x900
[02:08] <tyson_> i know the res
[02:08] <zumba> It didnt work when u tried to set the resolution,
[02:09] <zumba> ?
[02:09] <jhend60> how do i launch pakages from the konsole
[02:09] <jhend60> or even launch packages?
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> jhend60: lauch packages?
[02:10] <tyson_> the issue is i was trying to get dual monitors working, and inadvertantly told system settings that my primary monitor was something else. instead of setting the secondary monitor. so when i restart x, the laptop screen looks screwy. so i go back to sys settings to change it back to what it was, and i dont know what hp monitor to select in the list provided
[02:10] <jhend60> coz i have huge text on logon
[02:10] <jhend60> i ned kdm theme manager to fix
[02:10] <jhend60> so what command do i write to launch
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> jhend60: launch what?
[02:11] <jhend60> a package from adept
[02:11] <istarex> are you trying to install a package or execute a program?
[02:11] <jhend60> well i got the package kdm manage how do i use it?
[02:12] <jhend60> i want to use a package
[02:12] <istarex> ok
[02:12] <jhend60> or are they not usable
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> jhend60: kdm is executed by "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart" but don't run that
[02:12] <tyson_> nosrednaekim: what monitor does ya friend have selected from the monitor list?
[02:12] <istarex> did you try System Settings?
[02:13] <jhend60> yes but its a module to change the kdm theme
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: generic 1440x900 I think... it doesn't really matter.
[02:13] <jhend60> do modules automatically add itself
[02:13] <tyson_> oh ok
[02:13] <jhend60> the text is huge on the menu and updating didnt work
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: with a LCD, you don't really have to worry too much about refresh rates and such
[02:13] <jhend60> updating had error
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> jhend60: thats a X DPI issue
[02:14] <istarex> if you type "kcontrol" at a konsole window
[02:14] <jhend60> ok i have seen people say --96 but im a noob so i dont know how to change
[02:14] <istarex> you get the KDE Control Center, which might let you change the login screen
[02:14] <jhend60> ok ill try kcontrol
[02:16] <istarex> Control Center > System Administration > Login Manager
[02:16] <istarex> Login Manager lets you customize the login screen
[02:16] <istarex> (found at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25623.html :-)
[02:16] <jhend60> ok
[02:16] <jhend60> thanks
[02:16] <jhend60> but when i run kcontrol
[02:16] <jhend60> im in termina
[02:16] <jhend60> l
[02:17] <jhend60> it says an error with Klocal trying to look up something in catalogue and to fix it
[02:19] <jhend60> how do i get to Login Manager?
[02:19] <istarex> when you said "updating had error"
[02:19] <sub[t]rnl> jhend60➜ kcontrol
[02:19] <istarex> what did you mean?
[02:19] <zumba> !help
[02:19] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:19] <jhend60> well
[02:19] <alixthedark> can someone help me with open arena?
[02:19] <sub[t]rnl> istarex➜ kcontrol, alt +f2 then type "kcontrol"
[02:20] <Dr_willis> !info openarena
[02:20] <ubotu> openarena (source: openarena): A fast-paced 3D first-person shooter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-4 (gutsy), package size 747 kB, installed size 1648 kB
[02:20] <jhend60> when it updates, after a while, im not sure what it said but it said something about download interference
[02:20] <jhend60> or something
[02:20] <jhend60> it downloaded all
[02:20] <jhend60> but it was a bit wierd
[02:20] <istarex> so you try running a system update through adept, and after a while it comes up with some kind of error message?
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> jhend60: run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" again
[02:20] <alixthedark> how do you get new levels on open arena
[02:20] <jhend60> ok
[02:20] <jhend60> thanks
[02:21] <jhend60> and after that error adept locked up
[02:21] <jhend60> and im not sure that everything updated
[02:21] <Dr_willis> alixthedark,  Hmm.. Not sure :) I thought most servers auto-downloaded them to the users  .WHATEVER dir
[02:21] <jhend60> even though it says
[02:22] <de0x> hey hey
[02:22] <alixthedark> dr_willis: my brother found out how to get them but he wont tell me (lol)
[02:23] <jhend60> ok dist-upgrade says 0 upgraded 0 needed
[02:23] <brmassa> guys, i installed the KDE4, but i want some extra KDE4 apps, like Konversation and Kate. how can i do this
[02:23] <de0x> lot of people here
[02:23] <jhend60> ok
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> brmassa: there is no kde4 version of konversation
[02:23] <jhend60> in kcontrol
[02:23] <jhend60> it says that all fonts are 9
[02:23] <jhend60> size
[02:23] <jhend60> where is login manager in kcontrol?
[02:23] <brmassa> nosrednaekim: :(. but the kate guys said that Kate has
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> brmassa: it does.... the package name is "kate-kde4"
[02:24] <istarex> Do you see "System Administration" at the bottom of the left nav bar?
[02:24] <regeya> jhend60: System Administration
[02:24] <regeya> istarex beat me to it
[02:24] <istarex> natch!
[02:24] <brmassa> nosrednaekim: thanks. im take a look
[02:24] <Dr_willis> alixthedark,  i recall a 'auto download maps' option
[02:25] <istarex> Click the "+" to expand it, you should see "Login Manager' listed underneath
[02:25] <jhend60> ok
[02:25] <jhend60> font sizes are 10, 10, 22
[02:25] <alixthedark> ok ty
[02:25] <jhend60> nothing huge
[02:25] <jhend60> i turned anti-ailising off
[02:26] <Daisuke_Ido> jhend60: CRT or LCD display?
[02:26] <istarex> so the fonts are fixed?
[02:26] <jhend60> ill check
[02:26] <jhend60> lcd
[02:26] <Daisuke_Ido> that's got to be hard on the eyes
[02:29] <jhend60> text is still huge
[02:29] <jhend60> some people fixed this by setting font really small
[02:30] <jhend60> well im using a laptop
[02:30] <jhend60> with intel 915Mobile graphics chipset
[02:32] <sparr_> my screensaver has mysteriously stopped prompting for a password.  desktop settings still has that box checked.  help?
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> sparr_: try typing the password anyway.
[02:33] <sparr_> worst
[02:33] <jhend60> ok ive set text small but the fonts are still huge!
[02:33] <sparr_> phishing
[02:33] <Strangework> I have recently divided my single partition into three different partitions, 1 for Windows, 1 for KDE, and 1 for universal media. The problem is, I cannot mount the two new partitions in KDE. Only in GNOME, and that is because GNOME asks me for root permission, KDE does not. Could anyone perhaps suggest a solution?
[02:33] <sparr_> attempt
[02:33] <sparr_> ever
[02:34] <sparr_> Strangework: i dont know the gui solution, but i would suggest adding them to /etc/fstab so that they are always mounted
[02:34] <Strangework> sparr_: Hm! Sounds good, what should I add to it? the names by default seem to be disk and disk1
[02:35] <jhend60> ok
[02:35] <jhend60> the fonts have changed a bit but still are really big
[02:35] <jhend60> ill make them like all 1
[02:36] <brmassa> nosrednaekim: i forgot to ask: if there is no konversation, how to use irc on kde4?
[02:36] <sparr_> Strangework: id probably be more descriptive.  make /media/windows and /media/media (unless that confuses you), then add rows to mount the partitions to those locations.  maybe let users mount/unmount them
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> brmassa: kopete-kde4 or konversaton from kde3
[02:36] <Shmoe> is there a way for kde to revert to its initial settings it had when it was installed?
[02:36] <brmassa> nosrednaekim: thanks
[02:36] <sparr_> Shmoe: mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-bak
[02:37] <sparr_> Shmoe: the beauty of linux
[02:37] <Strangework> sparr_: Hm, I think I could handle it with the given information, thank you. :)
[02:37] <Shmoe> does that include monitor settings?
[02:37] <sparr_> that includes everything
[02:37] <Shmoe> ok, thanks mate
[02:37] <sparr_> UNLESS you were in admin mode when you made a change
[02:37] <sparr_> heh
[02:38] <sparr_> hope he caught that  :)
[02:39] <Kobol> Can anyone tell me off the top of their heads how to run the xorg configuration? Trying to get my resolution supported.
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> Kobol: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:40] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: Thanks mate :)
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> uhh you'll need to sudo that too
[02:44] <Strangework> sparr_: Okayy.. I am lost. XD So what do I put in fstab?
[02:46] <sparr_> something like this:  /dev/sdXN /media/windows           ntfs    user,defaults        0       2
[02:46] <sparr_> you can replace the /dev/... with a UUID if you know how to find that for the partition, i never can remember
[02:46] <jhend60> im back
[02:46] <jhend60> ok
[02:46] <Shmoe> im sorry, what was that command to revert to initial kde installation settings?
[02:46] <jhend60> what plugin do i need to play dvds with kaffeine
[02:47] <Strangework> sparr_: hm, what is /dev/sdXN?
[02:47] <jhend60> do i need divx?
[02:47] <regeya> !restricted
[02:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:47] <regeya> not divx for dvd...check those links from ubotu; I think the solution is there.  basically you need libdvdcss, amongst others
[02:47] <regeya> divx is an mpeg4 codec
[02:48] <regeya> DivX was the weak competition to DVD back in '98
[02:48] <regeya> divx is something different, and I'm offtopic
[02:49] <sparr_> Strangework: the hard drive device for the partition.  /dev/sdb2 or some such
[02:49] <sparr_> Strangework: there is PROBABLY a gui way to do this, and no offense, but from your questions i think you should wait for someone who can help from that end
[02:50] <Shmoe> i am having trouble starting kde. when i start kubuntu, it bombs out saying it tried  a few screen resolutions, but they fail, which sends me to the tty root login prompt. is there a way to fix kde so i can start it again?
[02:50] <boots> does anyone have any experience w/kde4
[02:50] <Strangework> sparr_: None taken, I will check back later after my bath, peace out. :)
[02:50] <Shmoe> i really want to avoid reinstalling kubuntu. yes im the n00b
[02:50] <Kobol> Hmm, since I restarted Adept wont seem to open? Says another program is using the service, where there isn't?
[02:51] <sparr_> Shmoe: did you see the last thing i said before?  admin-mode changes wont be in ~/.kde
[02:51] <sparr_> Shmoe: on the topic of your problem, try moving /etc/X11/xorg.conf to a safe place, then running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and picking some low-spec defaults
[02:51] <boots> has is anyone using kde4
[02:52] <sparr_> boots: kde4 on ubuntu?  have you tried #kde or #ubuntu+1 ?
[02:52] <ol_dude67> boots, tried it and deleted it. to buggy right now to mess with.
[02:53] <oobe> !hi
[02:53] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:53] <oobe> !hello
[02:53] <regeya> I've tried kde4, am determined to wait for kde4
[02:53] <regeya> kde4.1
[02:53] <Shmoe> sparr: ive run that a few times now. it finds that my monitor can do 1440x900 (which it correct), but when i reboot, it still crashes
[02:53] <Dr_willis> KDE4 service pack 1
[02:53] <Dr_willis> :P
[02:54] <oobe> ive installed kde4 but havent tried it yet :P
[02:54] <boots> ic.  thnx
[02:54] <Shmoe> ...attempting these other resolutions that i didnt select in the config scipt
[02:54] <boots> i tried it but could not figure out where things were
[02:55] <boots> how do i delete it
[02:55] <ol_dude67> i did sudo aptitude remove kde4-core
[02:55] <boots> ok
[02:57] <regeya> kde4, once completed, will be great :->  really looking forward to the day when I can once again emulate my kde1 setup in the latest-greatest kde ;-)
[02:58] <ol_dude67> ya it has some good features, if and when they get all the bugs worked out.
[02:58] <smith> sucks about flash not working with konqueror in hardy
[02:58] <s0nix> Hi....... i need some help............ my kubuntu (kde 3.5) since the feisty-gutsy upgrade....... it freeze at startup....... at around 90% or the splash progress bar. .......... i need to pass by recovery mode..... and start kdm.... and all it perfect. how can i fix this?
[02:58] <poison--> gotta luv gutsy
[02:58] <poison--> :D
[03:00] <smith> s0nix: gotta work out why it's stopping, maybe edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and take out the 'splash' arguement from the 'kernel=' line
[03:00] <smith> that's the best i've got, i'm sure there's a better way
[03:01] <s0nix> arlready done....... i removed the uspash and quiet keyword........ nothing at all......can't go on console mode...... i just see a black screen with a cursor on top left.
[03:02] <smith> goes grub come up at the start ? counts down etc ?
[03:02] <s0nix> yep
[03:03] <smith> heh that's weird
[03:03] <s0nix> :(
[03:03] <smith> so you you see any text from the kernel before it goes to the flashing cursor ?
[03:03] <smith> or just as soon as it goes to boot, bang
[03:04] <jhend60> ok im back
[03:05] <jhend60> when i boot theres all this text how do i make it just show the kubuntu logo only
[03:05] <jhend60> or is that impossible
[03:05] <s0nix> nop.... if i hit ESC (for trying to access to the console mode, i got the black sreen) else..... i see the normal splash screen..... and cute freeze ....
[03:05] <Kobol> I just tried to run something through wine, what I got was No libGL on this box - disabling OpenGL support
[03:05] <Kobol> Any ideas?
[03:05] <jhend60> how do i run specific modules
[03:05] <jhend60> i just got the menu module
[03:05] <jhend60> to have more apps on 1 meny
[03:05] <jhend60> menu
[03:06] <jhend60> but i cant see it
[03:06] <jhend60> whats the command to run it
[03:07] <jhend60> hello>
[03:07] <Veovis> hey is anybody else using KDE 4?
[03:08] <jhend60> i want to use it but i dont know how to get it
[03:08] <BluesKaj> !kde4 | Veovis
[03:08] <ubotu> Veovis: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[03:08] <jhend60> flash
[03:08] <jhend60> how do i make uboto say something
[03:09] <Veovis> !flash
[03:09] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:09] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[03:09] <Veovis> and i wasn't asking for help with it, i'm currently using it, i was just wondering what other people though
[03:10] <Veovis> jhend60: what i did was install hardy (still in alpha, but works great for me) and then just "sudo apt-get install kde4-core"
[03:10] <jhend60> ok
[03:10] <jhend60> did u have to download 700 mb?
[03:11] <Veovis> yeah, i have fast internet
[03:11] <jhend60> wow
[03:11] <jhend60> i dont
[03:11] <jhend60> so does any1 no how to execute a MODULE
[03:11] <jhend60> i got the menu module but i cant see it
[03:11] <Veovis> um
[03:11] <jhend60> because i cant see 'games'menu
[03:11] <jhend60> and i want to run games
[03:11] <sub[t]rnl> !enter
[03:11] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:12] <Veovis> like in your k-menu the games is missing?
[03:12] <jhend60> so the module menu should fix this but i cant see it
[03:12] <jhend60> yes that is true
[03:12] <BluesKaj> Veovis, at this point kde4 seems to be quite hardware dependent, the resulting ease or use or probs stem from your particular setup from what i've been seeing and hearing.
[03:13] <Veovis> BluesKaj: actually i'm on a 6 year old dell latitude and while i don't have to much eye-candy, it runs great
[03:13] <Veovis> jhend60: can't you right click on the k-menu (you might have to unlock the panel) and edit the k-menu?
[03:13] <jhend60> ill try to explore to find how to run this moudle
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> jhend60- if there's no Games entry in the KMenu, you might just not have any games installed
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> I don't the the KMenu shows empty menus by default
[03:14] <Dragnslcr> I don't think
[03:14] <jhend60> i have two (banner/something else and 3d chess)
[03:14] <jhend60> three i mean
[03:14] <BluesKaj> Veovis, it made too many changes to kde3.5.8 for my liking
[03:14] <jhend60> but the first two dont run
[03:15] <BluesKaj> not kde itself , but the common apps
[03:15] <Veovis> BluesKaj: well that was kinda the point.  it is far from complete (it has almost no customizability, which is what i hate about Gnome) but it's making good progress and i like what i'm seeing so far
[03:16] <BluesKaj> Veovis, very mac-ish
[03:16] <Veovis> BluesKaj: what makes you say that? because of the widgets?
[03:17] <BluesKaj> just the general "look"
[03:18] <BluesKaj> anyway , i will definitely try it again, but later
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> I think it looks kinda macish.... but I like it...
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> its not so macish that its obnoxious...like baghira
[03:18] <Veovis> BluesKaj: huh, i've had several people say it looks like vista just cause its black.  The 'problem' if you want to call it that is that with so many operating systems that you can't make somethnig thats completely original
[03:18] <draik> How do I make K Menu alphabetical?
[03:18] <draik> It's all over the place.
[03:19] <draik> Veovis: I don't know if you read this, but KDE is being ported to Win and Mac.
[03:20] <BluesKaj> Veovis, yes I think you're right ..ppl would complain if kde4 was too different :)
[03:20] <Veovis> draik: yeah i heard! i thought it was very ... interesting
[03:20] <BluesKaj> draik, yes , was reading about it ...gonna be interesting
[03:20] <draik> Veovis: Interesting is "channel friendly" for what I was actually thinking
[03:20]  * regeya works with os x machines for a living so he for one welcomes his new kde4...nevermind.
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> in soviet russia Kde4 frees YOU!
[03:21] <draik> Veovis: BluesKaj: I didn't get a chance to read it at work. How is that going to work with GPL and all?
[03:22] <Veovis> draik: no clue
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> draik: what do you mean?
[03:22] <Kobol> !aptlock
[03:22] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[03:22] <BluesKaj> draik, not sure , i din't much other detail except the porting to windows and mac
[03:23] <draik> nosrednaekim: I don't know. I figure there is something in the GPL which would conflict with the way Windows, ummm.. functions (?)
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> draik: nope... qt4 is GPLed
[03:24] <draik> nosrednaekim: Couldn't think of anything that wouldn't be an oximoron to windows.
[03:24] <BluesKaj> it was on that windows loving site techspot
[03:24] <Veovis> draik: hahah, true, but they have things like gimp that are gpl taht run on windows
[03:24] <draik> OO.o as well
[03:24] <draik> nosrednaekim: Good point
[03:24] <BluesKaj> yup, just installed gimpshop in windows
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> draik: firefox and Pidgin bor example work on windows
[03:25] <Veovis> i assume it will not replace whatever you call the windows window manager, it will just be a way to run your kde apps in windows (kinda like wine? but the other way around and totally differente :P )
[03:25] <draik> I never thought about Firefox because it seems that its platform-wide. Not something going from Linux to windows
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> actually I don't know if firefox is under the GPL
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> Veovis: yeah.. I think thats what they are thinking, although replaceing explorer.exe would be totally sweet
[03:26]  * draik shuts up and goes back to his corner. "Yeah, I think the 10ft fall had worse results than expected..."
[03:26] <yjlim> hello
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> ^_^
[03:26] <yjlim> i have a problem trying to make new folders
[03:26]  * draik goes to find the village missing its idiot to fill the spot
[03:27] <draik> yjlim: CLI or GUI?
[03:27] <yjlim> i can't make folders in root/bin
[03:27] <yjlim> GUI
[03:27] <yjlim> or CLI
[03:27] <Veovis> nosrednaekim: actually, there is something like that, i got sick of windows and tried out something like sharpE (sharpe Environment) that basically replace the windows task bar, etc. it was nice but nothing compared to linux
[03:27] <yjlim> i need to take ownership of the folder
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> Veovis: yeah.. and I heard blackbox was ported as well
[03:27] <draik> yjlim: Why?
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> yjlim: you need sudo for that
[03:27] <yjlim> ok
[03:27] <yjlim> thanks
[03:28] <yjlim> what is the exact command for chmodding the folder permissions?
[03:28] <yjlim> i'm a newbie
[03:28] <draik> Wait. Did you want ownership to your user or the ability to create a folder?
[03:28] <yjlim> ability to create a folder in a restricted folder
[03:28] <cody> ok
[03:28] <cody> its jordan
[03:28] <cody> jhend6
[03:28] <cody> jhend60
[03:28] <yjlim> my root/bin is restricted
[03:28] <cody> im on different pc
[03:28] <Veovis> !enter | cody
[03:28] <ubotu> cody: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:29] <cody> sorry
[03:29] <draik> yjlim: Ok. Back to the question. Why do you need user control? There's a reason why it's not open to regular users.
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> cody: yeah?
[03:29] <yjlim> i need to install an application
[03:29] <draik> yjlim: Use "sudo <command>" instead
[03:29] <yjlim> ok
[03:32] <draik> Does anyone know how to make my K Menu alphabetical?
[03:33] <Dragnslcr> Might have to order them yourself
[03:33] <Veovis> draik: i don't, sorry
[03:33] <BluesKaj> draik, it is from top to bottom
[03:33] <cody> ok well im trying to mhing but text ake the module menu to run but i cant find the eecutable file or anyt
[03:33] <cody> hing but texts
[03:33] <cody> menu thing
[03:34] <cody_> any help?
[03:34] <cody_> how i run the menu module? do i rebooy?
[03:34] <cody_> *Reboot
[03:35] <sub[t]rnl> cody_➜ there are other language channels if English is not your primary language
[03:36] <sub[t]rnl> I'm afraid I can't make heads or tails of what your asking
[03:36] <cody_> ok
[03:36] <cody_> it is im typing on a retarded keyboard sorry
[03:37] <Kobol> I'm having trouble with WINE, have a pastebin of the errors I get
[03:37] <jhend600> i just want to know how do i start the module 'menu'
[03:37] <jhend600> or any other module for that matter
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[03:38] <yjlim> hello, do you know where is the usr/local/bin folder?
[03:38] <sub[t]rnl> are you talking about Kernel modules? or installable packages
[03:38] <Veovis> yjlim: um /usr/local/bin is at /usr/local/bin
[03:38] <don_> how do self configure when upgrade stalls?
[03:39] <don_> what commands
[03:39] <jhend600> yes
[03:39] <jhend600> but its not in the usr local bin folder
[03:39] <yjlim> i can't seem to find it using the KDE Dolphin file manager
[03:39] <draik> yjlim: Use the / in the front
[03:39] <jhend600> oh
[03:39] <sub[t]rnl> don_➜ dpkg? sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:39] <don_> thaanks
[03:39] <jhend600> so
[03:39] <don_> 3d up and running fine
[03:40] <jhend600> any1 have any ideas how to start a module
[03:40] <sub[t]rnl> jhend600➜ are you talking about Kernel modules? or installable packages
[03:40] <Veovis> jhend00: im still confsude by what your talking about
[03:40] <jhend600> im not sure
[03:40] <jhend600> i think its a package
[03:40] <sub[t]rnl> jhend600➜ modprobe would be for kernel modules
[03:40] <sub[t]rnl> !package | jhend600
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <sub[t]rnl> !packages | jhend600
[03:41] <ubotu> jhend600: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[03:41] <illusina> Is there a particular package I should install if I want to convert my desktop into a server? (or do I need to download/install ubuntu server edition?)
[03:41] <jhend600> !menu
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about menu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <jhend600> !package menu
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package menu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <sub[t]rnl> illusina➜ nothing really, just don't start xwindows on login
[03:42] <regeya> illusina: at the risk of starting a flame war, debian etch makes for a great server install
[03:42] <regeya> debian and ubuntu are close cousins
[03:42]  * regeya was using ubuntu for a fileserver at work, and after some problems switched to etch
[03:42] <illusina> sub[t]rnl: alright, I don't need to do modifiction to the ports/services/etc beyond added what I want?
[03:43] <sub[t]rnl> illusina➜ you could trim a few services that start automatically, other than that, they are the same
[03:43] <illusina> sub[t]rnl: kk thanks a lot :D
[03:44] <yjlim> hello, do you guys know where is the thrash directory located in Linux?
[03:44] <yjlim> is it at Recycler like Windows?
[03:44] <jhend600> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/admin/menu
[03:44] <jhend600> go here for info on the thing im talking about
[03:44] <yjlim> i want to put a link to thrash on the desktop
[03:45] <jhend600> i think i have to do dpkg something
[03:45] <sub[t]rnl> yjlim➜ url would be trash:/
[03:45] <yjlim> ty
[03:45] <yjlim> can u guys plz explain to me how linux handles deleted files?
[03:46] <Dragnslcr> By removing the entry from the file system
[03:46] <Dragnslcr> Pretty much like every other operating system
[03:47] <yjlim> i can't seem to find the thrash folder
[03:47] <yjlim> where exactly is the thrash folder?
[03:47] <jhend600> this module is a module universal/admin
[03:48] <jhend600> oh come on im eplaining it as clearly as possible
[03:49] <Dragnslcr> yjlim- the actual directory is ~/.local/share/Trash/
[03:49] <yjlim> thanks ppl
[03:49] <Dragnslcr> ~/.local/share/Trash/files is the files themselves
[03:49] <jhend600> how do i run universal packages
[03:51] <sub[t]rnl> !repo | jhend600
[03:51] <ubotu> jhend600: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:54] <genius> hey guys i finally got the kubuntu 7.10 on ps3 bu the resolutions is having problems
[03:54] <genius> what is the alternative for this in kubuntu (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop) thats for gnome i think
[03:55] <yjlim> how do i delete a file without moving it to thrash?
[03:55] <yjlim> like Shift+Delete in Windows
[03:55] <yjlim> but this time the linux way :)
[03:55] <sub[t]rnl> rm file
[03:55] <NickPresta> yjlim, press shift+delete :)
[03:56] <genius> hi can anybody help plz
[03:56] <NickPresta> genius, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[03:56] <genius> tried that didn't work
[03:56] <genius> let me try again
[03:56] <yjlim> ty
[03:56] <genius> oh srry thx nick
[03:57] <genius> i typed kde instead of kdm
[03:57] <NickPresta> genius, no problem. we all make mistakes
[03:58] <genius> i got this error though (sed; -e expression #1, char 32: unterminated 's' command
[03:58] <jhend600> ok im going
[04:00] <genius> Nick what does the error mean sed; -e expression #1, char 32: unterminated 's' command
[04:00] <NickPresta> genius, I don't know. Is it preventing you from stopping KDM? Or does it just complain and allow you to continue?
[04:01] <genius> Nick well kde is still running so i assum its not working
[04:01] <genius> nick, can i use the same command before i start the Gui using (startx)
[04:01] <NickPresta> genius, I don't know what the error means. You can try logging out and then selecting console login from the menu.
[04:01] <genius> k
[04:02] <genius> Nick what is the default password for su on kubuntu
[04:03] <NickPresta> genius, the password for the root account is your account password
[04:03] <genius> k thx
[04:06] <NickPresta> Does anyone know if there is a "master package" for all TrueType TeX fonts and Mathematica 4.1 fonts? I want to be able to view MathML text in Firefox and such
[04:27] <genius> nick i got this error saving a file "/etc/event.id/ps3videomode: No such fire or directory"
[04:27] <genius> how do i fix this
[04:28] <genius> sudo nano /etc/event.id/ps3videomode
[04:29] <genius> start on run level 2
[04:29] <genius> exec /usr/bin/ps3videomode -v
[04:29] <genius> then when i try to save the file i get an error
[04:29] <se7en_> !grub
[04:30] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:35] <SpamInaCan> how do i make firefox default?
[04:38] <grayghost> Firefox default setting is on the edit menu Preferences
[04:42] <genius> hi i want this command to run on default before the x graphical interface is load how can make it so it runs automatically on every boot
[04:42] <genius> ps3videomode -v 5 -c -d
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> genius➜ create a script in /etc/init.d/ and insert the command you want to run.  Save file, sudo chmod +x file, sudo update-rc.d file defaults
[05:02] <genius> can u give me the example pl
[05:02] <genius> plz
[05:02] <sub[t]rnl> http://subtrnl.homelinux.com/EXAMPLE-init.d-script
[05:02] <genius> thx
[05:03] <sub[t]rnl> theres also an example of an init script located at /etc/init.d/skeleton
[05:03] <sub[t]rnl> though its a little more advanced than mine
[05:03] <genius> k
[05:11] <genius> anybody has kubuntu 7.10 on ps3 here
[05:13] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I remember a KDE program that allowed you to group your icons on the desktop.  You would put them in containers (I'd call them baskets, but it's not basKet) and you could easily select which icon you wanted.  Any ideas on that?
[05:20] <cody> ok
[05:21] <cody> !flash
[05:21] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:21] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[05:29] <name> sudo m-a a-i alsa this command is correct or wrong
[05:35] <Strangelet> When I attempt to mount my other partitions, KDE responds "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000", I assume that means I need to be root or something of the sort. How can I mount it, and what do I add to /etc/fstab to make it mount as soon as I boot?
[05:37] <sub[t]rnl> Strangelet➜ how are you trying to mount it? with dolphin?
[05:37] <Strangelet> sub[t]rnl: Yessir, dolphin.
[05:37] <sub[t]rnl> try mounting it as user
[05:37] <sub[t]rnl> in the dolphin settings
[05:38] <Strangelet> same error
[05:38] <goop2> trying to install g++ is Hell
[05:39] <sub[t]rnl> Strangelet➜ uncheck it
[05:39] <sub[t]rnl> and try
[05:39] <goop2> it says insert the disk, but I can't mount it in /cdrom
[05:39] <Strangelet> Tried that as well, same result
[05:39] <level1> is there a way to set up raid 10 using the ubuntu alternate install cd?
[05:41] <sub[t]rnl> Strangelet➜ what device are you trying to mount by the way
[05:41] <Strangelet> oh, a seperate partition on my HD
[05:41] <sub[t]rnl> Strangelet➜ have you tried mounting it via the command line?
[05:42] <Strangelet> Yahh, problem is, I don't know where to go. XD
[05:42] <Strangelet> oh waitt..
[05:42] <Strangelet> hold on
[05:42] <sub[t]rnl> open up konsole
[05:42] <Strangelet> yahh, can't do it myself. T_T
[05:42] <Strangelet> it's open
[05:43] <sub[t]rnl> do you know what filesystem is on the partition?
[05:43] <Strangelet> yah, NTFS
[05:43] <Strangelet> formatted it last night. :)
[05:43] <sub[t]rnl> can't do it myself is in.. it didn't work? or your not sure how?
[05:44] <Strangelet> I am not sure what to put in for the directory
[05:44] <Strangelet> sudo mount /dev/sda4
[05:44] <sub[t]rnl> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda4 /mnt/point
[05:44] <sub[t]rnl> example
[05:45] <Strangelet> hm!
[05:45] <sub[t]rnl> did you try it?
[05:45] <Strangelet> hm..
[05:46] <Strangelet> yahh
[05:46] <Strangelet> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/media: No such file or directory
[05:46] <Strangelet> Perhaps I should create the directory?
[05:46] <sub[t]rnl> yup
[05:46] <Strangelet> I am on it
[05:46] <Strangelet> hold on
[05:47] <Strangelet> Yay! I am in. ^.^
[05:47] <sub[t]rnl> grats, now you can edit your /etc/fstab for automounting
[05:48] <Strangelet> hooorah!
[05:48] <goop2> wootz!
[05:48] <goop2> *claps*
[05:48] <Strangelet> XD
[05:49] <Strangelet> hmm.
[05:49] <Strangelet> in fstab, I would put "/dev/sda4   /media/media    ntfs   " then waht?
[05:50] <Strangelet> I need to fill in paramters "options","dump", and "pass"
[05:50] <sub[t]rnl> juse use "defaults" for options
[05:51] <sub[t]rnl>  /dev/sda4   /media/media    ntfs    defaults 0 1
[05:51] <Strangelet> ah, what does the '0' and the '1' mean anyways?
[05:51] <sub[t]rnl> dump is a backup utility
[05:52] <goop2> mine has a bunch of jibberish I don't understand =D
[05:52] <Strangelet> I know what you mean brotha. :P
[05:52] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[05:53] <sub[t]rnl> it all has purpose though! :>
[05:53] <Strangelet> purpose purpose purpose.. pshh! **access xorg.conf and replaces all text with excerpts from adult novels**
[05:54] <Strangelet> my computer seems to be working just fine.
[05:54] <goop2> haha
[05:54] <Strangelet> yo, brb, checking if the auto-mount works. :)
[05:55] <ol_dude67> hey my computer works better then i do, its out smarted me again
[05:55] <goop2> dag
[05:55] <sub[t]rnl> hehe, didn't need to reboot to check automount.. just sudo mount -a
[05:55] <sub[t]rnl> but meh..
[05:55] <goop2> I hate it when that happens
[05:55]  * sub[t]rnl shrugs
[05:57] <goop2> I've been trying to install g++, but it's been a pain
[05:57] <ol_dude67> if i have a 80 gig sata hard drive and a 20 gig ide hard drive, would that cause any complications? i thought about adding more space?
[05:57] <goop2> first it says it wants me to insert the disk, so I go make one
[05:58] <goop2> then it says the disk isn't in the right place
[05:58] <ol_dude67> mine says its the newest
[05:58] <goop2> so I try to mount it there, and it says that spot has already been taken
[05:59] <goop2> but there isn't anything there
[05:59] <ol_dude67> goop2, how did you try and install it?
[05:59] <Strangelet> W00T!
[05:59] <Strangelet> It's wokrs. :)
[06:00] <sub[t]rnl> goop2➜ df will show you whats mounted where, also mount
[06:00] <Strangelet> *works
[06:00] <goop2> right click > properties > mount point > /cdrom/
[06:00] <sub[t]rnl> thats a sym link actually
[06:00] <sub[t]rnl> but yeah
[06:01] <goop2> yeah there's like nothing there
[06:01] <sub[t]rnl> thats not telling you if its mounted, just the mount point.  open konsole and type df -h
[06:02] <goop2> still nothing there
[06:03] <sub[t]rnl> goop2➜ question, why not install g++ from the repositories? using apt-get?
[06:03] <ol_dude67> sub[t]rnl, that is what i was wondering myself?
[06:04] <sub[t]rnl> if apt-get is trying to access a cdrom, you might want to comment out the cdrom in your /etc/apt/sources.list (or disable it in adept manager gui)
[06:04] <goop2> oh
[06:04] <goop2> ok
[06:05] <goop2> I didn't even realize it was there
[06:06] <sub[t]rnl> ol_dude67 asked the right question, hehe
[06:06] <sub[t]rnl> how are you trying to install it :>
[06:07] <goop2> that worked
[06:07] <goop2> sweet
[06:07] <goop2> I was using Adept
[06:07] <ol_dude67> sub[t]rnl, ya i should of asked him cause i was like hmmmm
[06:07]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[06:07] <goop2> then I tried Synaptic
[06:07] <goop2> figuring I could edit the mount point
[06:07] <Strangelet> I like sub[t]rnl's smileys
[06:07] <Strangelet> they are sharp.
[06:07] <sub[t]rnl> rofl
[06:07] <goop2> lol
[06:08] <ol_dude67> goop2, just try to remember k.i.s.s.
[06:08] <sub[t]rnl> hear hear
[06:08] <sub[t]rnl> or is it.. here here..
[06:08] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[06:08] <goop2> well..
[06:09] <goop2> I prefer K.I.C.K.
[06:09] <sub[t]rnl> keep it cook karl?
[06:09] <goop2> keep it complicated kickass
[06:09] <goop2> it doesn't really make sence, but it sounds cool
[06:09] <ol_dude67> ya but that makes me work and im to lazy for that.
[06:09] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[06:10] <goop2> now if I could get openGL working my life would be complete
[06:10] <ol_dude67> if im to busy typing that ties up my drinking hand and i cant have that.
[06:10] <goop2> oh, right
[06:10] <goop2> that makes sence
[06:11] <goop2> Dvorak Left?
[06:11] <ol_dude67> what is wrong with opengl?
[06:11] <goop2> dunno
[06:11] <ol_dude67> well then neither do i
[06:12] <ol_dude67> ok thats fixed
[06:12] <goop2> it quit working going from 7.04 to 7.10
[06:12] <sub[t]rnl> what kinda vid card?
[06:12] <goop2> integrated nVidea =D
[06:13] <ol_dude67> oh yeah
[06:13] <ol_dude67> dang it
[06:13] <sub[t]rnl> you've got openGL just need to install the driver i would assume
[06:13] <goop2> yep
[06:13] <goop2> oh
[06:13] <goop2> I thought I already did :\
[06:14] <genius> hi i want this command to run before kde gui is loaded every time at boot. (ps3videomode -v 5 -c -d) can somebody give me step by step instructions plz i am a total noob
[06:14] <sub[t]rnl> genius➜ open up konsole
[06:14] <goop2> newbie, not noob
[06:14] <genius> i don't have the shell loaded
[06:14] <genius> is there a way todo it using nano
[06:15] <sub[t]rnl> genius➜ hrm, are you on the actual box your wanting to do this on?
[06:15] <genius> yes
[06:15] <sub[t]rnl> genius➜ in kde?
[06:15] <joe__> tekteen you still on?
[06:15] <genius> sub ok wait let me start kde
[06:16] <sub[t]rnl> genius➜ wait, no need
[06:16] <sub[t]rnl> genius➜ just need access to a command line interface
[06:16] <genius> yes i have the cmd
[06:16] <sub[t]rnl> genius➜ cmd ew, were not in windows :X
[06:16] <joe__> or Dr. Willis?
[06:16] <genius> sup :)
[06:16] <surgy> how do i make something automaticly start when kde does?
[06:16] <goop2> *hurls*
[06:16] <sub[t]rnl> genius➜ ok, cd /etc/init.d/
[06:17] <sub[t]rnl> !autostart | surgy
[06:17] <unix_infidel> sub[t]rnl: xinit.
[06:17] <ubotu> surgy: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[06:17] <joe__> or just have the program running when you shut down
[06:17] <surgy> sub[t]rnl: thnx
[06:18] <ol_dude67> sub[t]rnl, so why are you walking genius threw the hard way if you have surgy doing it another?
[06:18] <sub[t]rnl> ol_dude67➜ genius wants to load it at runlevel, before the gui loads, surgy wants it to load on kde start
[06:18] <genius> od_dude i want this to happen before kde loads not with kde
[06:19] <joe__> oh
[06:19] <ol_dude67> ok im not od but ok i see
[06:19] <genius> i want it to run at run level 2
[06:19] <genius> od_dude srry :)
[06:19] <ol_dude67> not od
[06:19] <ol_dude67> tr ol
[06:19] <genius> sub ok i am in the directry
[06:19] <joe__> it's ol_dude
[06:20] <genius> ol_dude srry
[06:20] <genius> lol mistype again
[06:20] <ol_dude67> saw right
[06:20] <joe__> saw left?
[06:20] <joe__> :D
[06:20] <sub[t]rnl> genius➜ now, create a new file and place the command you want to run in it
[06:21] <genius> sudo nano /etc/event.id/ps3videomode
[06:21] <joe__> allright peeps off to bed night
[06:21] <ol_dude67> im to use to slack, i would of done it the hard way anyways.
[06:22] <sub[t]rnl> genius➜ just type this -> sudo echo "ps3videomode -v 5 -c -d" | sudo tee -a ps3videomode
[06:22] <sub[t]rnl> that will create a file called ps3videomode with the command in it
[06:23] <genius> wait i messed up
[06:23] <sub[t]rnl> or do it with nano, whichever your more comfortable with
[06:23] <sub[t]rnl> no biggie
[06:23] <genius> ok so i typed sudo nano ps3videomode
[06:23] <genius> now in file i type the following
[06:23] <goop2> dangit, I ran into another problem with this compile
[06:24] <goop2> Qt's moc not found! If you have installed Qt in an
[06:24] <goop2> unusual place, please use the "--with-qt-moc=" option
[06:24] <genius> start on run level 2
[06:24] <genius> exec /usr/bin/ps3videomode -v
[06:24] <ol_dude67> goop2, did you install it in an unusual place?
[06:25] <ol_dude67> or did you install it at all?
[06:25] <goop2> I didn't install it
[06:25] <sub[t]rnl> genius➜ start on run level 2? your actually putting that in the file?
[06:25] <genius> lol i don't know i am following a tutorial
[06:25] <ol_dude67> then sudo apt-get install Qt4 i think is the newest.
[06:25] <ol_dude67> then rerun
[06:25] <genius> sub should i take that off
[06:25] <sub[t]rnl> genius➜ hehe, yup
[06:25] <goop2> kk
[06:25] <genius> k thx
[06:26] <sub[t]rnl> just have the actual command you want the script to run in there, thats all
[06:26] <genius> yay it saved thx
[06:26] <ol_dude67> which reminds me i havent installed that either.
[06:26] <sub[t]rnl> genius➜ your not done
[06:26] <genius> k
[06:26] <ateequr> hi
[06:26] <genius> sub whats next
[06:27] <sub[t]rnl> genius➜ sudo update-rc.d ps3videomode defaults
[06:27] <goop2> ol_dude67: couldn't find package
[06:27] <ol_dude67> its in adept sorry
[06:28] <ol_dude67> im looking myself
[06:28] <goop2> kk
[06:28] <sub[t]rnl> genius➜ after that, sudo chmod +x ps3videomode
[06:28] <genius> sub done
[06:29]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[06:29] <genius> sub, whats next
[06:29] <goop2> I do have qt4 core
[06:30] <genius> ok now whats the command to restart pc
[06:30] <sub[t]rnl> goop2➜ are you using kde4? that uses qt4, everything else is qt3
[06:30] <ol_dude67> well then you have a problem cause its saying you dont or not in the right place and you have to ad that command to it.
[06:30] <sub[t]rnl> genius➜ sudo reboot
[06:30] <genius> thankyou guys
[06:30] <genius> ur awesome
[06:30] <goop2> oh
[06:31] <sub[t]rnl> try sudo apt-get install qt3-dev-tools
[06:31] <sub[t]rnl> then compile again
[06:31] <sub[t]rnl> and wait for the next set of complaints
[06:31] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[06:31] <ol_dude67> sub[t]rnl, i didnt know it went with a certain type of kde?
[06:32] <goop2> lol
[06:32] <ol_dude67> slack has been using qt4 for a while and they still have kde 3.5.7
[06:32] <goop2> no such file or directory
[06:32] <sub[t]rnl> ol_dude67➜ hrm could be then, i guess it all depends on the app that is using it
[06:33] <ol_dude67> sub[t]rnl, that is what i have been told, but i may be wrong im not great with linux yet, just know where and how to find stuff.
[06:33] <ol_dude67> :D
[06:33] <goop2> Qt libs not found
[06:34] <goop2> this is so much fun
[06:34] <sub[t]rnl> goop2➜ what are you trying to compile anywho
[06:34] <sub[t]rnl> just curious
[06:34] <goop2> Qtella
[06:34] <ol_dude67> what the hell is that?
[06:34] <genius> sub it didn't work
[06:34] <ol_dude67> oops sorry my bad what the heck is that?
[06:34] <goop2> a Gnutella client
[06:34] <genius> the resolution is still low
[06:34] <goop2> rofl
[06:35] <ol_dude67> goop2 did you check to see if it was in adept or apt-get?
[06:36] <ol_dude67> i know limewire is and that is what im using.
[06:36] <goop2> yeah
[06:36] <goop2> meh
[06:36] <sub[t]rnl> genius➜ even though its depreciated, put the command you want to run in /etc/rc.local  above the exit 0, save it, and reboot
[06:36] <goop2> I don't like limewire
[06:36] <sub[t]rnl> frostwire!
[06:37] <goop2> the legal alternative
[06:37] <ol_dude67> frostwire is ok to
[06:37] <ol_dude67> oh then napster..lmao
[06:37] <goop2> but I wanted to try qtella
[06:37] <genius> sub k
[06:37] <goop2> no, I mean Frostwire is the legal alternative to Limewire
[06:37] <genius> my kde is frozen now
[06:37] <ol_dude67> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:38] <level1> Hi, I cant seem to get my nvidia card set up
[06:38] <sub[t]rnl> !apt-fix
[06:38] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[06:38] <ol_dude67> that is what i got when i apt-getted it. and that is with everything open
[06:38] <sub[t]rnl> !nvidia > level1
[06:38] <Strangelet> I use gtk-gnutella, Limewire doesn't seem to work. :\
[06:38] <goop2> I'm thinking maybe to fix this I'll just do 'sudo apt-get install all'
[06:39]  * sub[t]rnl chuckles
[06:39] <jhendox> i still have giant login fonts
[06:40] <jhendox> and i downloaded kde 4 to see if it is fied, but no alll fonts on kde 4 are huge
[06:40] <sub[t]rnl> yeah goop2, i would go with gtk-gnutella or at least a project that is still being actively developed.  Qtella was dropped some time ago
[06:40] <ubuntu> hola
[06:40] <goop2> it was?
[06:40] <sub[t]rnl> aye
[06:40] <goop2> but it's.. pretty
[06:40] <jhendox> can anyone help me with my problem?
[06:40] <ol_dude67> goop2, go with that cause i think you will be fighting the other for a long time.
[06:41] <ubuntu> somebody know the default root password of kubutuntu
[06:41] <goop2> kk
[06:41] <goop2> though it would be good to get make working
[06:41] <ubuntu> i need to entry as root
[06:41] <sub[t]rnl> jhendox➜ alt + f2 and enter "kcontrol" go to System Administration, then login manager.  You can adjust font size there
[06:41] <ubuntu> and i dont know the pass
[06:41] <ol_dude67> goop2, i try to keep mine really updated, i even have the new kubuntu running in vmware for test to see if im upgrading tomorrow
[06:42] <jhendox> yes but every font is too big in kde 4 and it freezes
[06:42] <jhendox> when i try to change appearence
[06:42] <ubuntu> pleaseeeeeee help meee
[06:42] <sub[t]rnl> go to #kubuntu-kde4
[06:42] <genius> ok  i guess the resolution change worked but now my desktop is split
[06:42] <ubuntu> i need the root password of live cd of kubuntu
[06:42] <jhendox> i am there theres no response
[06:42] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu the root password is your user password
[06:43] <genius> right 50% is on the left side and the 50% of left area desktop is on the right side ( its like splic the desktop in two and switch the sides)
[06:43] <goop2> ol_dude67: k.i.s.s.?
[06:43] <ol_dude67> there is a set password? ubuntu try to just hit enter
[06:43] <se7en> !password
[06:43] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[06:43] <ol_dude67> keep it simple stupid...thats my motto
[06:43] <ubuntu> i dont have a password..
[06:43] <ol_dude67> shouldnt have too, ubuntu
[06:43] <goop2> with VMware?
[06:43] <ubuntu> i dont have installed ubuntu. only is runing the live cd..
[06:44] <goop2> I'm too simple for that =P
[06:44] <JoshOvki> ubuntu: use the system settings page to change the root password
[06:44] <ol_dude67> vmware i installed to test stuff before i put it to use.
[06:44] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu there is no root password for sudo on the livecd
[06:45] <ubuntu> mmm
[06:45] <ubuntu> ok
[06:45] <ubuntu> thank
[06:45] <ol_dude67> ubuntu, quick question, with your name why are you here?
[06:46] <ubuntu> i use sudo su..
[06:46] <sub[t]rnl> ol_dude67➜ might be the default nick off the liveCD konversation client
[06:46] <ubuntu> and its works >P
[06:46] <ol_dude67> ah ok
[06:46] <ol_dude67> i didnt use it long
[06:46] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[06:46] <ubuntu> haha
[06:46] <sub[t]rnl> you see a ton of em in here
[06:46] <ol_dude67> well that should be a no no,like root
[06:47] <ubuntu> yeap
[06:47] <chronos> Can someone give me the installation path to XMMS? Like for xine I have, /user/bin/xine.
[06:47] <sub[t]rnl> chronos➜ which xmms
[06:47] <chronos> sub[t]rnl: the one from the repos.
[06:48] <sub[t]rnl> hehe, that wasn't a question
[06:48] <goop2> usr/share/xmms
[06:48] <sub[t]rnl> type it in konsole
[06:48] <ol_dude67> or locate tells you all
[06:48] <ol_dude67> ok bed  time laters all
[06:48] <chronos> so just locate xmms?
[06:48] <ol_dude67> g/night
[06:48] <sub[t]rnl> take care ol dude
[06:48] <goop2> ttyl
[06:49] <goop2> later ol man
[06:49] <sub[t]rnl> chronos➜ yup, or you can use the find command
[06:49] <brad_> hi
[06:49] <sub[t]rnl> example: find / -name 'xmms*' -print
[06:51] <goop2> most everything is in /usr/share
[06:51]  * selene is back.
[06:51] <goop2> well I gotta go
[06:51] <goop2> snowboarding tomorrow
[06:51] <sub[t]rnl> take care goop2, have fun
[08:04] <Taggnostr> how could I delete a file from the shell?
[08:04] <LeAstrale> rm
[08:04] <Taggnostr> thanks
[08:10] <harmental> hey guys...why is kopete so outdated in the repos?
[08:11]  * ForgeAu shrugs
[08:12] <jussi01> harmental: most things in the repos a somewhat behind
[08:12] <jussi01> harmental: see the last part of:
[08:12] <jussi01> !wfm
[08:12] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[08:13] <harmental> jussi01: i guess it has something to do with kde not being mainstream
[08:14] <jussi01> harmental: no, not really. there isnt really the latest version of anything in the repos.
[08:15] <jussi01> the point being, the stable versions are in the repos, not the bleeding edge
[08:15] <ForgeAu> hey jussi :)
[08:15] <jussi01> hiya ForgeAu
[08:17] <shawn__> hi
[08:17] <jussi01> !hi | shawn__
[08:17] <ubotu> shawn__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:17] <shawn__> this is a chat room right :p
[08:18] <jussi01> shawn__: yes, for getting help with kubuntu.
[08:18] <yasahiro> anybody play sauerbraten?
[08:19] <jussi01> !anyone | yasahiro
[08:19] <ubotu> yasahiro: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:19] <shawn__> yes
[08:19] <yasahiro> lol... okay :P sorry about that... reason i asked, was that mine tends to freeze randomly when playing for around.. 6 - 7 seconds..
[08:20] <shawn__> playing what?
[08:20] <yasahiro> ...sauerbraten... what i mentioned before... sorry bout that...
[08:21] <jussi01> yasahiro: try #sauerbraten - there arent many there, but they have another channel on quakenet
[08:22] <Stilo> hi! does anybody use the new ati driver 8.1?
[08:22] <torskehode> hi all.. i have a questions. i have 2 nic's in my pc. can i run a dns server on one of the nic's ?
[08:23] <torskehode> i want to have a dns server for a internal network
[08:23] <torskehode> !dns
[08:23] <ubotu> DNS is an acronym for Domain Name System, and is an internet system used to translate names into IP Address.
[08:23] <torskehode> !dns-server
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns-server - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <torskehode> bleh
[08:25] <torskehode> also.. what is squid ? i guess its some kind of webcacheing system ? can it be confiured to only listen on ex: eth0 ?
[08:25] <jussi01> !info sqid
[08:25] <ubotu> Package sqid does not exist in gutsy
[08:26] <jussi01> !info squid3
[08:26] <ubotu> squid3 (source: squid3): A full featured Web Proxy cache (HTTP proxy). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.PRE6-1 (gutsy), package size 828 kB, installed size 2212 kB
[08:26] <jussi01> torskehode: ^
[08:27] <torskehode> yes.. but can i make it use eth0 onlY?
[08:27] <torskehode> what about my 1st question ?
[08:28] <jussi01> torskehode: sorry, I have no idea on that. have you consulted the man pages?
[08:28] <torskehode> ok.. i'll use my friend mr.google :)
[08:29] <jussi01> torskehode: please remeber its nighttime in many major centres, so probably best to try back in a few hours
[08:29] <jussi01> !man | torskehode
[08:29] <ubotu> torskehode: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or type man:/ in Konqueror's location bar. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:36] <Sbucatone> i need to understand how can i do an" make "  file
[08:37] <Sbucatone> where can i get some tutorial ?
[08:38] <stefan_> hello all :)
[08:38] <stefan_> I have a problem with static routes
[08:38] <stefan_> I followed the instructions here:
[08:38] <stefan_> http://boilinglinux.blogspot.com/2007/12/how-to-add-permanent-route.html
[08:38] <stefan_> but its always loosing the route
[08:38] <stefan_> what is wrong?
[08:39] <stefan_> !route
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about route - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <jussi01> !night
[08:39] <ubotu> It's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds.  This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question.  Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake.  This is particularly true in the quieter channels.
[08:40] <Lynoure> jussi01: I've always found that one funny :)
[08:41] <noaXess> good morning..
[08:41] <ForgeAu> O
[08:41] <ForgeAu> I'm in Australia its not the middle of the night here :)
[08:41] <Sbucatone> :D italy 9.41 am
[08:41] <noaXess> what about gtk apps.. and font size?.. have setting up that gtk apps uses same font as my kde apps.. but eg. in skype there is a diffrent font size
[08:41] <jussi01> yeah, should really say or...
[08:42] <Lynoure> ForgeAu: closer to noon (10:41) in fi :)
[08:42] <ForgeAu> 7.40pm here
[08:42] <noaXess> Sbucatone: ch 09:42 am
[08:42] <noaXess> :)
[08:42] <Sbucatone> :)
[08:42] <Lynoure> stefan_: always losing the route? When does it work, when not?
[08:43] <jussi01> noaXess: skype is qt iirc...
[08:43] <noaXess> jussi01: ok.. but will qt apps not have same font and font size as kde apps?
[08:43] <ForgeAu> noaXess depends on your config
[08:44] <stefan_> when I create the staic route restart networking
[08:44] <ForgeAu> and the logged in user
[08:44] <noaXess> where can i set, that qt apps also use the same font setting as kde
[08:44] <Lynoure> stefan_: seems exotic if it works after a reboot but then forgets it... Could be dhcp interfering, then, or something else overriding.
[08:44] <stefan_> the machines runs over night
[08:44] <ForgeAu> (ie the root user's config doesn't change if another user changes their QT and/or KDE settings
[08:45] <stefan_> I looked tis mornig and the route is away and can not load it again when restarting networking
[08:47] <Lynoure> stefan_: but the file is still there, with right permissions and all? And are you using dhcp?
[08:48] <sebastian^> good morning folks :)
[08:49] <Lynoure> stefan_: you could try an alternative approach, and put the routes as  up route add   statements in your /etc/network/interfaces  and see what happens
[08:52] <noaXess> ForgeAu: but there should be a setting for me.. for my session.. that qt apps uses a special font or the font from kde..
[08:53] <ForgeAu> noaXess I'm fairly certain there is
[08:53] <ForgeAu> I just don't know where exactly its stored
[08:54] <ForgeAu> kcontrol is where you change it
[08:54] <stefan_> when I do manually : route add -net 172.0.0.0 gw 10.104.225.1
[08:54] <noaXess> any other have a hint.. about qt styles?
[08:54] <stefan_> I get:
[08:54] <noaXess> !qt
[08:54] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[08:54] <stefan_> SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument
[08:54] <noaXess> !gui
[08:54] <ubotu> The graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)
[08:54] <stefan_>  dont know why this happens
[08:55] <Lynoure> stefan_: netmasks are there traditionally :)
[08:56] <stefan_> ähh ;) okay :)
[08:57] <Lynoure> stefan_: No error with one, I assume? :)
[08:57] <stefan_> correct :)
[08:58] <stefan_> to less coffee, I think so early in the morning ;)
[08:58] <stefan_> thanks Lynoure !!
[09:00] <Lynoure> stefan_: You are welcome.
[09:26] <prathap> Hi
[09:27] <prathap> how do i get the list of installed packages using apt
[09:27] <prathap> or search the list of packages installed using apt
[09:27] <SlimeyPete> dpkg -l
[09:27] <SlimeyPete> and "dpkg -l | grep packagename"
[09:28] <SlimeyPete> there are probably other methods but that's how I do it.
[09:42] <prathap> Hi
[09:42] <llutz> http://www.linux-community.de/Neues/story?storyid=24600    hehe, die lieben Nachbarn
[09:42] <prathap> my eclipse always uses gcj jvm even though I have installed the latest sun jvm
[09:42] <llutz> ups
[09:42] <prathap> how do I change this?
[09:43] <prathap> searching for compatible vm...
[09:43] <prathap>   testing /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj...found
[09:43] <prathap> this is the startup message
[09:43] <prathap> when I start eclipse
[09:43] <llutz> prathap: sudo update-alternatives--config java
[09:43] <jussi01> llutz: he will need a space there, no?
[09:43] <llutz> ah, he will, sry
[09:44] <llutz> prathap: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:44] <prathap> I did that
[09:44] <prathap> and set sun's java as the default one
[09:44] <prathap> but still it picksup the other one
[09:44] <llutz> check eclipse settings
[09:47] <prathap> is there a config file for eclipse
[09:47] <prathap> where I can update this?
[09:48] <jussi01> alos, maybe try eclipse's channel
[09:57] <Dioxin> guys I'm having a slight problem with my GRUB ...
[09:57] <Dioxin> it wont mount my drive
[09:57] <jussi01> Dioxin: what is the exact error?
[09:57] <Dioxin> from the GRUB how do I find out possible mountable devices
[09:58] <jussi01> !grub | Dioxin, there is a howto here
[09:58] <ubotu> Dioxin, there is a howto here: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:58] <prathap> All I did was purging java-gcj-* and eclipse-gcj, IIRC.
[10:00] <prathap> can some one tell me on what the above line means?
[10:00] <prathap> purging?
[10:01] <thomas__>  can anyone help me with commands to split an XviD file?
[10:02] <jussi01> thomas__: split as in edit?
[10:02] <llutz> thomas__: man avisplit
[10:02] <thomas__> thanx
[10:02] <LamerMan> hi everyone! kubuntu no longer perform login when i fill the user and password fields. After i do it and press LOGIN, the screen becomes black for a while (like it is loading) and then the login screen apeears againg. No matter how many types i login, it does not go further than that black screen and then returns to the LOGIN screean. I started happening after i downloaded some files from web under root account with wget. Is there some
[10:02] <LamerMan> useful logs that i shuld look at to determine the problem?
[10:03] <SlimeyPete> prathap: purging means to remove a program andall of its configuration files
[10:03] <SlimeyPete> and all downloaded package files
[10:03] <LamerMan> *It started happenging after... It not I
[10:04] <LamerMan> i downloaded those files under root to /home/lamerman directory
[10:06] <sean_> does anyone know of any app I can read an Access database on, I need to retrive the field headings
[10:08] <prathap> when i install eclipse
[10:08] <prathap> it brings in the whole gcj with it
[10:09] <jussi01> prathap: try: /join #eclipse
[10:09] <prathap> yeah i did
[10:09] <prathap> no answers there :(
[10:15] <basta> guten Tag
[10:15] <jussi01> !de | basta
[10:15] <ubotu> basta: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:16] <apparle> hi everyone
[10:16] <jussi01> gday
[10:19] <josh623> hi guys, I know "#kubuntu" is for questions related to kubuntu but I was told in #ubuntu that I may try to ask for some help over here...
[10:19] <josh623> I'm having issue with installing ubuntu 7.10. Around 77-79% I get an error message "Errno 05 Input/output error". Yesterday I was told to try to install the basic version (mini cd) and I did but I get the same error report "Input/Output error reading dev/hdb" when I was to format the hard disk.  I've checked my hard drive with different programs and I can't find any problem with it. I have 5 different CDs with different iso files so I think the problem is 
[10:26] <apparle> kaffiene and amarok do not play some wav files and mov smoothly what should I do
[10:26] <pierre_> Hi all. Changing the screen resolution from the monitor/display section has no effect . any help !!!
[10:27] <jussi01> !fixres | pierre_
[10:27] <ubotu> pierre_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:28] <gesposto> ciao
[10:28] <stefan_> can someone give me a hint how can I sent mail via Konsole?
[10:29] <LamerMan> stefan_ telnet :)
[10:29] <jussi01> !it | gesposto
[10:29] <ubotu> gesposto: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:29] <stefan_> okay I do telnet 127.0.0.1 25
[10:29] <stefan_> but what I have to then?
[10:29] <llutz> stefan_: use "mail" or "mailx"
[10:30] <jussi01> !info mutt
[10:30] <ubotu> mutt (source: mutt): text-based mailreader supporting MIME, GPG, PGP and threading. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.15+20070412-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1057 kB, installed size 5196 kB
[10:30] <SlimeyPete> stefan_: if you do it via telnet you have to type in lots of difficult commands, it's best to just use mail or mutt
[10:30] <Sunny_> was brauche ich alles fuer einen Server und gibt es eine Anleitung wie man einen Server einrichtet _
[10:30] <SlimeyPete> !de
[10:30] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:31] <wesley> umount: only root can unmount /dev/scd1 from /media/cdrom0  how can i onmount i need to do cd 2 in it i am installing a windows game with wine
[10:31] <apparle> how to troubleshoot xine engine
[10:33] <wesley> how to unmount a cdrom as root ?
[10:33] <romunov> is there a list of "mounted" directories and devices?
[10:33] <llutz> "mount"
[10:33] <romunov> umount /dev/...?
[10:34] <romunov> http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl2_umount.htm
[10:34] <SlimeyPete> romunov: just run "mount"
[10:34] <SlimeyPete> in a terminal
[10:34] <wesley> and then ?
[10:35] <SlimeyPete> wesley: sudo umount /media/cdrom
[10:35] <SlimeyPete> should work.
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[10:36] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[10:36] <wesley> does not work says its busy
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> wesley, what is busy?
[10:37] <wesley> the cdrom drive but call of duty setup says please insert cd2
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> wesley, did you run setup when your working directory was the folder with the setup in it
[10:38] <jdb> *
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> wesley, that makes sense
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> :(
[10:39] <wesley> hu? i just put the cd in press setup
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> wesley, what did you press setup in, cedega? wine?
[10:39] <wesley> wine
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> wesley, did the cd autorun?
[10:40] <wesley> first trying on the legal way
[10:40] <wesley> yes the cd did autorun
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> wesley, wow didnt know they did that now
[10:40] <apparle> I cannot run hotkeys
[10:40] <apparle> I cannot run khotkeys
[10:41] <stefan_> hmm its only neccessry to use mail, cause I have to look why an address isnt relayed
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> wesley, ok basically if you run the setup from your home dir like wine /media/cdrom0/setup.exe
[10:41] <ForgeAu> brb
[10:41] <stefan_> so the best way is to use mail, I think
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> wesley, then the folder isnt locked
[10:41] <stefan_> someone has a good link to mail via console by mail
[10:41] <stefan_> ?
[10:42] <llutz> stefan_: man mail
[10:42] <romunov> is there a way to "reverse" the ln command?
[10:42] <wesley> you mean copy the cd to my home ?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> romunov, do you mean link?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> wesley, no, go to your home dir in konsole (cd ~/)
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> wesley, then type: wine /path/to/setup.exe
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> wesley, obv cancel the current install
[10:44] <Dioxin> GRVB |
[10:44] <Dioxin> GRVB | Dioxin
[10:44] <Dioxin> GRUB |
[10:44] <Dioxin> GRUB | Dioxin
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> !grub | Dioxin
[10:44] <ubotu> Dioxin: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:45] <Dioxin> cheers
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Dioxin, its !<command>
[10:45] <Dioxin> had only seen it once
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Dioxin, np :D
[10:45] <Dioxin> just managed to fuck up my grub
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Dioxin, yeah sucks when that happens
[10:46] <wesley> actionparsnip does not realy work
[10:46] <apparle> which media player is good for kubuntu
[10:46] <Dioxin> I'm trying to install Kubuntu onto a usb hdd .... overwrote my vista grub in the process
[10:47] <romunov> ActionParsnip: yes, i need to break links that i've created
[10:47] <wesley> going try cedega
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> romunov, use file <filename>
[10:47] <llutz> romunov: just remove the link
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> wesley, cedega is well worth the money if you are a gamer
[10:48] <wesley> but it should run with wine
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> wesley, google round. stuff might help. Cedega is real good with multiple cd installs :D
[10:49] <wesley> the setup from call of duty runs seemless only the cdrom wont unmount
[10:49] <wesley> i going try cedega but a account from cedega have i not
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> wesley, which call of duty do you have?
[10:50] <wesley> 1
[10:50] <wesley> rest do i have for console
[10:50] <Sbucatone> kommander experts know how can i write a debian package from kommander scrript ?
[10:50] <romunov> llutz: that's what i'm saying - how do i remove it?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> wesley, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111627
[10:50] <llutz> romunov: rm
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> wesley, look what i found VERY quickly
[10:51] <cheesypieces> hi guys, any idea how to open adept if it tells me its already in use?
[10:51] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix
[10:51] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:51] <SlimeyPete> try that first
[10:51] <wesley> going try that
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> wesley, try googling like I said
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> cheesypieces, any good?
[10:53] <cheesypieces> just running now
[10:53] <cheesypieces> fingers crossed
[10:53]  * ActionParsnip crosses fingers too
[10:55] <cheesypieces> that's it
[10:55] <cheesypieces> you guys rule!
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> cheesypieces, awesome
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> they should add that to adept
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> "blah blah is already in use, do you want to unlock Y/N?"
[11:04] <Dioxin> !grub | Dioxin
[11:04] <Dioxin> !grub
[11:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:10] <apparle> can I change the icon of Kmenu
[11:12] <ForgeAus> probably
[11:12] <ForgeAus> you'd need to find the image (an png or svg? somewhere?)
[11:14] <erik__> join #kde
[11:14] <romunov> what would be the command to copy contents of one directory to another?
[11:14] <romunov> i cd into the directory and cp *.* /new/dest?
[11:14] <erik__> sure, cp <files to copy> <destination>
[11:15] <jussi01> !nickspam > Peter_petrel
[11:15] <jussi01> !nickspam > ThanosGRE
[11:16] <romunov> it's a lot of files
[11:16] <romunov> would *.* work?
[11:17] <jussi01> romunov: cant see why not
[11:17] <romunov> ok, i was just wondering if that's the same command for "everything" as in the old dos :)
[11:18] <erik__> *.* would take all files with a period in it, right? while * takes everything
[11:19] <rysiek> hi all
[11:19] <romunov> replacing *.* with * omitts the directories
[11:19] <romunov> how do i copy directories as well?
[11:19] <rysiek> guys, is there a way to start a system from kubuntu live cd WITHOUT the X server?
[11:19] <erik__> cp -R (recursive)
[11:20] <erik__> cp -R * /new/dest/, that's what I use at least, but I'm no expert :)
[11:23] <apparle> ForgeAus: Which png or svg
[11:41] <ThanosGRE> anyone who knows about mpich?
[11:44] <bazhang> what is mpich?
[11:44] <ThanosGRE> multi procesors interface
[11:45] <bazhang> !info mpich
[11:45] <ubotu> Package mpich does not exist in gutsy
[11:46] <ThanosGRE> i know...
[11:46] <bazhang> sorry no idea
[11:47] <ThanosGRE> ok no prob thnx a lot!!
[11:56] <jussi01> !info gromacs-mpich | ThanosGRE
[11:56] <ubotu> thanosgre: gromacs-mpich (source: gromacs): Molecular dynamics sim, binaries for MPICH parallelization. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.3.1-5 (gutsy), package size 1628 kB, installed size 4152 kB
[11:56] <jussi01> ThanosGRE: also, try: apt-cache search mpich in konsole
[11:57] <ThanosGRE> i have found the package, i need some help using it!!
[12:13] <bazhang> molecular dynamics? wow
[12:57] <mike__> Can anyone recommend resources to learn to make themes for KDE?
[13:04] <mike__> I think it's back to ubuntu for me
[13:05] <mike__> GNOME has many more resources available on how to write custom content
[13:07] <ForgeAus> mike google it? there might be some info there
[13:07] <mike__> I did several times
[13:08] <mike__> All tutorials are from about 2000, and poorly written (and by all tutorials, I mean the one that I found)
[13:08] <Kevincito888> una pregunta alguien sabe como puedo configurar un USB Joystick Vibration para jugar en el Mupen64???
[13:17] <LetsGo67> When I insert an audio CD in Xubuntu, it launches totem, not sound-juicer.  Any way to change that, please?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> Howdy Folks  :-)
[13:25] <o-dog> hello all
[13:25] <o-dog> is there a finnish linux support channel in this network?
[13:25] <o-dog> i'm having translation difficulties
[13:25] <BluesKaj> !fi
[13:25] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[13:26] <o-dog> thanks
[13:26] <blizzzek> hi
[13:26] <BluesKaj> hi blizzzek
[13:36] <articpenguin3800> why does my harddrive get accessed a lot every morning
[13:37] <Sbucatone> !paste
[13:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[13:40] <hydrogen> articpenguin3800: ubuntu has a scheduled cronjob to update the `locate` database every day, it is probably that
[13:40] <articpenguin3800> yeah its prob that
[13:40] <articpenguin3800> i dont have tracker on my computer
[13:40] <hydrogen> right
[13:40] <hydrogen> its not tracker
[13:40] <hydrogen> its locate
[13:42] <articpenguin3800> does locate index everything on my harddrive
[13:44] <SlimeyPete> articpenguin3800: yes, but it relies on a database so new files may be missed until the next time the database is updated
[13:44] <Odd-rationale> Is anyone else having problems playing music from http://www.jamendo.com/ on konqueror?
[13:44] <SlimeyPete> articpenguin3800: 'find' is slower but will actually seacrch your HD
[13:45] <Odd-rationale> And speaking of jamendo, is there a way to play jamendo in amarok like in rhythmbox?
[13:48] <Numaan> I am trying Kubuntu. This time I logged in My monitor's screen resolution is set to 640x480 I dont remember setting this. I go to system settings > Monitor and Display but it only shows this resolution I can not increase it. How do I fix that?
[13:49] <SlimeyPete> sounds like you haven't got the right graphics drivers installed or your xorg config has gotten messed up.
[13:49] <Odd-rationale> Try this
[13:49] <Odd-rationale> !xorg
[13:49] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[13:50] <o-dog> Numaan, same problem and i'm trying to fix it atm :D
[13:50] <Numaan> I know how to restart X and it didn't help
[13:51] <Odd-rationale> Numaan: See the link from ubotu
[13:55] <ToNTaN> hi guys'
[13:55] <ToNTaN> need help setting up a free shell server ubuntu box
[13:57] <ToNTaN> anyone please
[14:03] <romunov> have you checked any potential tutorials?
[14:03] <muesli> what's a free shell server?
[14:03] <SlimeyPete> muesli: one that people can ssh into for free
[14:04] <SlimeyPete> surely it's just a case of "install ubuntu, secure it, and enable sshd"
[14:04] <muesli> why would anyone set that up if he doesn't even know how to? ;-)
[14:04] <Odd-rationale> Could someone do me a quick favor? Could you go to http://www.jamendo.com/ and let me know whether you can play music with konqueror? Thanks a lot!
[14:04] <ToNTaN> romunov: I searched google, but can't find any tutorials on it. Or Im just typing the wrong keywords.
[14:04] <ToNTaN> I dont know
[14:04] <SlimeyPete> ToNTaN: what exactly are you having trouble with?
[14:04] <muesli> ToNTaN: so you just wanna let people onto your system?
[14:05] <ToNTaN> Muesli: well I want to configure one, thats why I'm asking :) peace
[14:05] <muesli> ToNTaN: sudo apt-get install ssh, enable ssh in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[14:05] <SlimeyPete> et voila.
[14:05] <ToNTaN> SlimeyPete: finding a good tutorial, and dont know where to start
[14:05] <ToNTaN> Muesli:  I did that already
[14:06] <muesli> then create a new user account (useradd free ; passwd free)
[14:06] <muesli> job done
[14:06] <SlimeyPete> ToNTaN: then you've done everything.
[14:06] <ToNTaN> all right.
[14:06] <wesley> theres something wrong i see by ever text line stripes
[14:07] <wesley> is that software or hardware ?
[14:07] <ToNTaN> is there anyone here experience in providing shell account service?
[14:08] <muesli> ToNTaN: specific questions please. what issue's left?
[14:08] <ToNTaN> anyobody who can give me tips.. or something
[14:09] <gast2> hoi
[14:09] <SlimeyPete> well, there aren't really any tips to give. Make sure you're firewalled properly and that you run a rootkit checker on a daily basis.
[14:09] <gast2> oi
[14:09] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[14:10] <gast2> öah
[14:10] <ToNTaN> muesli: Do i need to configure something other than setting up the permission, for the users to install eggdrops or anything in their home directory
[14:10] <muesli> well, if you want multiple users, then you need to come up with some user-account creating mechanism
[14:10] <muesli> otherwise each user would use the same account
[14:11] <muesli> and they would end up with the same home directory
[14:12] <BluesKaj> I wonder if photoshop will run under wine /
[14:12] <SlimeyPete> it will.
[14:12] <BluesKaj> cool
[14:12] <SlimeyPete> but cs3 didn't work last time I checked.
[14:13] <ToNTaN> muesli: okay, thanks
[14:13] <BluesKaj> what about elments?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> err elements
[14:13] <SlimeyPete> probably works. Check the winedb.
[14:13] <BluesKaj> I think that's the one
[14:13] <SlimeyPete> *appdb
[14:13] <SlimeyPete> appdb.winehq.com  iirc
[14:13]  * se7en__ woundere what happend with google
[14:14] <BluesKaj> thx SlimeyPete
[14:14] <gesposto> ciao
[14:15] <gesposto> i like lesbian girl
[14:15] <SlimeyPete> You're a rubbish troll. Go back to troll school.
[14:16] <BluesKaj> SlimeyPete, apparently photoshop cs2 runs flawlessly
[14:17] <ForgeAus> I don't understand how ie6 can make Wine LESS compatible
[14:17] <bazhang> gesposto: not here please
[14:23] <BluesKaj> SlimeyPete, was reading a blog about some animators at Disney who ported photoshop to Linux to save royalty fees and made it work very well, but they aren't sharing :(
[14:23] <SlimeyPete> BluesKaj: heh, they'd get sued into the ground ;) Cool though
[14:24] <BluesKaj> no kidding , wouldn't wanna be the guy to leak it to the net :)
[14:25] <crispy-afk> Is it possible to use dcop commands through putty?
[14:25] <maddler> hi all...
[14:25] <crispy-afk> because all i get is: ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server!
[14:25] <o-dog> haha fixed
[14:26] <o-dog> now it's time to restart
[14:26] <maddler> pretty dumb question, but... is there a way to make task switcher cycle among all desktops and not only the current one?
[14:28] <snarkster> i thought it did cycle through all running apps
[14:29] <maddler> by default alt+tab only cycles current desktop's apps
[14:29] <snarkster> are you using kde3.5 or 4.0
[14:29] <maddler> 3.5
[14:30] <snarkster> ok i just moved an app to desktop 2
[14:30] <ubuntu__> wher's the debian channel? can't find it
[14:30] <bazhang> #debian
[14:30] <snarkster> and it doesnt showup on my alt-tab kist.. strange
[14:30] <maddler> #debian
[14:30] <maddler> snarkster: right...
[14:30] <maddler> that's the default behaviour...
[14:31] <snarkster> alt-tab should work on all running apps..
[14:31] <maddler> I remember threre was an option to make it cycle all the desktps...
[14:31] <maddler> but can't find it... or anything similar...
[14:33] <snarkster> its not in the control panel
[14:34] <maddler> found!!!
[14:34] <maddler> it's in the "windows behaviours"!
[14:35] <maddler> yeah... much better!
[14:35] <maddler> I keep forgetting it since I only enable it when I install a new system!
[14:35] <maddler> :D
[14:37] <maddler> ok... now I only have to find why the hellon my new laptop I have cblack consoles and I;m done! :D
[14:38] <snarkster> awe.. travers all desktops.. did understand what that meant.
[14:38] <snarkster> must nee more coffee
[14:38] <snarkster> gotta get dressed for work.. ttyl
[14:38]  * genii slides snarkster a large mug of coffee
[14:38] <genii> Hmm
[14:40] <maddler> :)
[14:42] <alien> эуек
[14:43] <romunov> why should i use "ln" instead of "mount" to link contents of one directory into another?
[14:43] <genii> ln <> mount
[14:43] <Chousuke> romunov: because mount is not intended to do that.
[14:44] <Chousuke> and you usually want to use ln -s (a symbolic link) instead of a hard link
[14:44] <romunov> ok, thanks
[14:44] <Chousuke> read the manpage for details
[14:45] <seezer> there are cases where it makes sence to use 'mount --bind'
[14:45] <genii> yes, quota enforcement for instance
[14:45] <Chousuke> I suppose.
[14:45] <gladier> i still dont know the difference between a symbolic and a hard link - but its similar to the windows shortcut... mount is used to make a volume accessable
[14:45] <Chousuke> gladier: a hard link is an alternative name for a file.
[14:46] <Chousuke> gladier: a symbolic link is just a "this file is actually here" pointer
[14:46] <romunov> so the  command to link one directory to another would be "ln -s /home/niphargus/www/ /var/www/niphargus/"?
[14:46] <Chousuke> gladier: the "original file" is actually a hardlink too.
[14:47] <llutz> if you use services which cannot handle symlinks, mount --bind is a nice option
[14:47] <Chousuke> gladier: so if you create a hard link and delete the "original", the file itself is not deleted. this is not true with symbolic links
[14:47] <seezer> romunov: ln -s /home/niphargus/www /var/www/niphargus
[14:47] <seezer> romunov: /var/www/niphargus should not exist before
[14:47] <Eco1> is kubuntu the ubuntu with enlightenment
[14:48] <seezer> hehe
[14:48] <romunov> well that's a problem
[14:48] <seezer> Eco1: no, kde
[14:48] <romunov> i was blind, but now i kde!
[14:48] <Eco1> whats kde? sorry im a bit new to linux
[14:49] <Chousuke> KDE is the desktop environment used by kubuntu
[14:49] <Chousuke> Ubuntu uses Gnome
[14:49] <jpatrick> !kde > Eco1
[14:50] <Eco1> ohh right cool
[14:51] <Eco1> do you think I could run it on a 500mhz machine?
[14:51] <Chousuke> if you have enough RAM :P
[14:52] <Chousuke> though I think it might be a bit too heavy to be enjoyable.
[14:52] <tyson_> can someone please help me setup my monitors?
[14:52] <Eco1> I think it has 128mb, but i could update it
[14:52] <Eco1> upgrade*
[14:52] <tyson_> i hate windows, and want to use linux, but if i cant setup my monitors, i have no choice but to use shitty vista
[14:53] <adz21c> tyson_: whats wrong with the monitors?
[14:53] <Chousuke> Eco1: definitely not enough :)
[14:53] <Chousuke> Eco1: I'd recommend at least 512MB of RAM for KDE.
[14:54] <Eco1> ok, thanks for your help
[14:55] <tyson_> when i install kubuntu, the laptop monitor is fine. I have a dell monitor attached, and when i go to system settings, it is listed as unknown. so i select it from the list, and then logout and restart x. when i log back it, the LAPTOP's monitor has changed, and not just the secondary monitor that i changed. now i cant even change the resolution on my laptop to 1440x900 like i was able to before the change
[14:59] <BluesKaj> !dual head
[14:59] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[15:01] <cauti> soy nuevo
[15:01] <cauti> donde estoy?
[15:01] <cauti> help me!
[15:01] <cauti> hola anabelle
[15:01] <cauti> de donde eres
[15:01] <BluesKaj> !es | cauti
[15:01] <ubotu> cauti: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:02] <anabelle> Colombia
[15:24] <dhq_> when i type "ls " i get command not found
[15:24] <kubuntu_> i updated kde to ver 4 but now have both 3.5.8 and 4 ver programs
[15:24] <dhq_> but ls is present in /bin/ls
[15:25] <kubuntu_> any command to deinstal 3.5.8?
[15:26] <jpatrick> kubuntu_: apt-get remove kdelibs4c2a
 thanks m8
[15:28] <mrbrdo_> hey can anyone give ma guide for upgrading fiesty to hardy?
[15:28] <mrbrdo_> i'm using kde4 and it's quite buggy in fiesty
[15:29] <jpatrick> mrbrdo_: not recommened (you have to upgrade to gutsy then hardy)
[15:29] <jpatrick> !upgrade > mrbrdo_
[15:29] <mrbrdo_> sorry not fiesty.. well i have 7.10 anyway
[15:29] <mrbrdo_> that's gutsy right
[15:29] <mrbrdo_> i'm mixing up those names :)
[15:29] <davi_> hey! I'm using Kubuntu HH with KDE 4! thank you all. :-)
[15:30] <mrbrdo_> jpatrick that page doesn't say how to go from gutsy to hardy
[15:30] <mrbrdo_> i found some guides for Ubuntu, but that involves the gnome package manager thing
[15:30] <jpatrick> mrbrdo_: because it is not yet released and not supported
[15:30] <SlimeyPete> !hardy
[15:30] <ubotu> hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:31] <mrbrdo_> how can i upgrade
[15:31] <SlimeyPete> ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:48] <onishidato> BluesKaj, are you there?
[15:48] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:49] <BluesKaj> onishidato , what is it ?
[15:49] <onishidato> BluesKaj, do you remember the grub error i have told you and DaveDorm yesterday?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> yes error 15 ?
[15:49] <onishidato> BluesKaj, i don't know why i still can't solve it
[15:50] <BluesKaj> onishidato, first explain your set up to me ... external HDD etc?
[15:50] <onishidato> BluesKaj, he told me to install the Linux-image (the lastest version) but after i did it, i still can't solve the problems
[15:51] <onishidato> BluesKaj, ok
[15:51] <onishidato> BluesKaj, 1st: i have 2 HDD for 2 Kubuntu. And one of my Kubuntu has that error, i'm using the orther Kubuntu to get help. that's it
[15:52] <BluesKaj> which HDD has the error , external or internal ?
[15:53] <onishidato> the slave one.
[15:55] <bin4ry> hey together
[15:55] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[15:56] <bin4ry> its weekend : )))
[15:56] <bin4ry> one question: my chat partner uses windows live messenger and i am using kopete. I'd like to use my webcam so my partner sees me
[15:56] <onishidato> BluesKaj, can you help me?
[15:57] <bin4ry> but whenever i try to share my cam nothing happens
[15:57] <BluesKaj> onishidato, so you are booting into the slave first in the boot sequence ?
[15:57] <onishidato> yup
[16:00] <BluesKaj> onishidato, I use a Live CD - Super Grub Disk , which runs as a bootdisk and is able to restore bootloaders for Linux and windows ...I highly recommend it. Rather than fool around with menu commands , that's what i use when i encounter bootloader problems and it works very well.
[16:02] <BluesKaj> onishidato, http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/?section=download
[16:21] <onishidato> BluesKaj, ok ok, thanks so much. i will find that disk
[16:21] <onishidato> BluesKaj, can you tell me where can i find it?
[16:21] <BluesKaj> onishidato, http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/?section=download
[16:25] <PhenomX4> heya. I'm getting package conflicts for KDE4. are these know?
[16:25] <onishidato> BluesKaj, ok
[16:26] <PhenomX4> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kde4base-data_3.94.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/services/kuiserver.desktop', which is also in package kdebase-runtime-data
[16:26] <PhenomX4> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kde4base_3.94.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/libexec/kioexec', which is also in package kdebase-runtime
[16:26] <onishidato> BluesKaj, let me see
[16:27] <onishidato> BluesKaj, thnks for your help
[16:28] <BluesKaj> onishidato, YW
[16:28] <PhenomX4> hmmm it appears they aren't from the Kubuntu repo
[16:49] <smeril> how do i get sound in amarok I have already installed mp3 support and i can see the song play but i dont get any sound my speakers are okey
[16:49] <FaiDillinGer> you turn your speakers on
[16:49] <smeril> i have
[16:49] <davies> smeril: restart artsd in System Settings
[16:49] <FaiDillinGer> you turn your ear on
[16:50] <smeril> how?
[16:50] <davies> smeril: look for the sound section
[16:51] <smeril> i am in there
[16:51] <nzk> How do I password protect a file?
[16:52] <smeril> and then?
[16:52] <davies> smeril: hrm, I can't remember how it is in KDE 3....
[16:52] <smeril> ok
[16:52] <smeril> not me either
[16:52] <davies> oh you're on kde4?
[16:53] <smeril> i am not sure
[16:53] <smeril> how can i check
[16:54] <smeril> i am restarting the sound now
[16:55] <eloic> hello everybody
[16:58] <smeril> it is just restarting many times but nothing happends
[16:58] <fura> hi
[16:58] <andy_> hey everyone, i just have a few questions about my new kubuntu install
[16:58] <SlimeyPete> shoot.
[16:58] <fura> any1 can help me to update my kubuntu 7.04
[16:58] <fura> to kubuntu 7.10 ?
[16:58] <SlimeyPete> !dist-upgrade
[16:58] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:58] <SlimeyPete> hrm
[16:59] <andy_> i cant really find anyinformation about the version i have installed.
[16:59] <andy_> i also have a nvidia graphics card and i cant get the refresh rate past 61 hz
[16:59] <SlimeyPete> andy_: what info do you want? The current release is 7.10
[16:59] <SlimeyPete> (gutsy)
[16:59] <andy_> well its saying i have kde 3.5.8
[17:00] <SlimeyPete> Right, yes, you do.
[17:00] <andy_> and i was under the impression that my kde was 4.0
[17:00] <SlimeyPete> shouldn't think so unless you deliberately installed kde4
[17:00] <andy_> ok
[17:00] <SlimeyPete> kubuntu comes with kde3.5 by default
[17:00] <andy_> oh
[17:00] <SlimeyPete> kde4 isn't really read for widespread usage yet
[17:00] <smeril> anybody who know how i can get the sound to work on my system it is nothing wrong with the speakers
[17:00] <SlimeyPete> *ready
[17:01] <andy_> oh, still dev
[17:01] <SlimeyPete> andy_: yeah, it's been officially released but is still under heavy development. Wait six months :)
[17:01] <andy_> ok.
[17:01] <andy_> so my graphics card
[17:01] <SlimeyPete> andy_: re: refresh rate, have you tried installing the NVidia Restricted Drivers?
[17:02] <andy_> i think they are in use right now
[17:02] <SlimeyPete> hmm, k. I take it you have a CRT monitor.
[17:02] <andy_> yes
[17:03] <SlimeyPete> I haven't had refresh rate problems myself but I believe the answer usually lies in the file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" - there are some frequency settings in there.
[17:03] <andy_> ok ill see what i can toy with
[17:05] <_Angelus_> man is there a way to make kubuntu keep the programs up to date?
[17:05] <_Angelus_> im starting to hate waiting 6months for new programs :/
[17:07] <thomas__> why is libdvdcss2 in my synaptic, but I can't download it :/
[17:07] <thomas__> install I mean
[17:07] <thomas__> it says, unavailable version
[17:08] <thomas__> or something like that
[17:10] <noaXess> !backup
[17:10] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[17:11] <thomas__> !dvd
[17:11] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[17:11] <thomas__> !medibuntu
[17:11] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[17:12] <bazhang> thomas why not just install the one package from medibuntu?
[17:13] <thomas__> bazhang: yeah, figured that one out myself ^^
[17:14] <bazhang> you got it now?
[17:14] <thomas__> updating repos ;-)
[17:15] <bazhang> nice
[17:15] <Jasmin_> where do i get beryl package for my dell vostro 1500
[17:16] <Dioxin> dont suppose anyone can give me a hand with a Kubuntu install... I think I keep using the wrong device settings
[17:17] <snikker> when i run "ps2pdf file.ps file.pdf", i've got this error: "Bus error". can you help me?
[17:17] <bazhang> Jasmin_: which version? feisty?
[17:18] <ForgeAus> !Recovery
[17:18] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[17:18] <ForgeAus> grrr
[17:18] <ForgeAus> not the one I meant
[17:18] <ForgeAus> !install
[17:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[17:18] <ForgeAus> there you go Dioxin
[17:19] <ForgeAus> wait there is one something about recovery after install
[17:19] <ForgeAus> which was what I was after, must be
[17:19] <ForgeAus> !grub
[17:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:19] <ForgeAus> yes... thats it
[17:20] <motanel> apparently pon doesn't start automatically and the only way i can connect to the internet is through pppoe. should i use chron to start it automatically, or am i missing something in the configuration?
[17:20] <ForgeAus> a little bit of fumbling but I got there in the end :)
[17:21] <ForgeAus> motanel sounds reasonable but I don't know enough about it to confirm or deny that
[17:21] <motanel> thanks, but i rather wait and ask later, this seems to be standard behavior in other distros, too
[17:21] <motanel> i want to know a certain answer :o)
[17:21] <ForgeAus> motanel yeah thats not surpising
[17:22] <Dioxin> funny thing is forgeaus.. I just had to repair the mbr of vista cos I screwed that up in the process
[17:22] <Jasmin_> bazhang: i dont know i hav to install baryl in my kubuntu system
[17:22] <llutz> motanel: theres an option to start pppoe on boot (on demand), just search for it
[17:22] <ForgeAus> Dioxin not exactly it is to be expected that a new installation would overwrite your boot sector
[17:23] <Dioxin> not when I'm installing to a USB drive
[17:23] <ForgeAus> oh... lol ok... once again a little out of my depth
[17:23] <Dioxin> lol
[17:23] <bazhang> jasmin can you find the console and in it type lsb_release -a (it's called Konsole)
[17:23] <ForgeAus> although I'm not so sure it should be any different
[17:23] <NoNameBrand> Hey guys I need a hand. I used the networkmanager from KDE4. I rightclicked it and was able to choose manual mode (don't ask me why :P) and now I'm stuck in some crappy mode where I can't really do any settings, nothing works and I can't see any networks... How do I go back to the previous mode? it seems to be impossible
[17:23] <Dioxin> I made the mistake of assigning the new GRUB to my Vista mbr
[17:23] <NoNameBrand> I've been searching for config files too, but there seem to be none
[17:23] <Dioxin> it didnt like it
[17:23] <ForgeAus> ahh yes of course
[17:24] <ForgeAus> :) that makes sense
[17:24] <Dioxin> so I know what I did... just wish I hadnt
[17:24] <ForgeAus> I'm just glad I have a live Kubuntu CD
[17:24] <Dioxin> I have about 8
[17:24] <ForgeAus> 1 seems to have sufficed for me sofar
[17:24] <ForgeAus> except that I still havn't fixed my /etc folder yet
[17:25] <Dioxin> well... I got a few ubunut lives and alternates... and 1 alternate kubuntu
[17:25] <ForgeAus> (so I'm restricted to XP for a while)
[17:25] <ForgeAus> well I was checking them out klikit sounds interesting
[17:25] <Dioxin> well I need to get kubuntu to run off my usb drive before monday
[17:25] <Jasmin_> bazhang:
[17:25] <NoNameBrand> anyone?
[17:25] <ForgeAus> mostly just a kubuntu with a web frontend to apt
[17:25] <Jasmin_> dhq@dhq-laptop:/$ lsb_release -a
[17:25] <Jasmin_> No LSB modules are available.
[17:25] <Jasmin_> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[17:25] <Jasmin_> Description:    Ubuntu 7.10
[17:25] <Jasmin_> Release:        7.10
[17:25] <Jasmin_> Codename:       gutsy
[17:25] <_Angelus_> is there a way on kubuntu to get things updated? not only for security issues , but when new versions of programs are available.
[17:25] <ForgeAus> I guess not much different from cnr?
[17:25] <bazhang> !compiz | Jasmin_
[17:25] <ubotu> Jasmin_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:26] <_Angelus_> is there a way on kubuntu to get things updated? not only for security issues , but when new versions of programs are available.
[17:27] <ForgeAus> yeah well beryl got reabsorbed into compiz in compiz-fusion
[17:27] <ForgeAus> (before that it was a fork of compiz anyhow)
[17:27] <Dioxin> ForgeAus I think beryl had some slightly different features
[17:27] <ForgeAus> Adept should do that for you Angelus, theres an update notification icon for the system tray that runs on startup
[17:28] <Arwen> Dioxin, beryl was compiz with more plugins
[17:28] <Dioxin> it has this cool feature where when you get the cube and rotate that the windows on your desktop were stacked in 3d
[17:28] <ForgeAus> yes the desktop cube was part of beryl
[17:28] <ForgeAus> I assume it too has been absorbed back into compiz
[17:28] <Dioxin> cube is in compiz but not the stacking part
[17:29] <ForgeAus> stacking?
[17:29] <Dioxin> ok imagine looking at thecube
[17:29] <ForgeAus> is it compatible with KDE's tray yet?
[17:29] <Dioxin> now imagine that on the right hand face you cant see are 3 windows
[17:30] <Dioxin> this stacking thing made it so you'd see 3 extra panes of glass coming out of the cube on the right side
[17:30] <Dioxin> where each bit of glass was a window
[17:30] <ForgeAus> hehe oddly I always had my virtual screens set to 6 just enough for each face of a cube, how convenient is that? :)
[17:30] <Dioxin> thought it was 4 to make it work
[17:31] <Dioxin> cos you cant use the top and bottom
[17:31] <ForgeAus> possibly...
[17:31] <Dioxin> unless they updated it since I last looked
[17:31]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[17:31] <Dioxin> using top and bottom would be way cooler imo
[17:31] <ForgeAus> it never worked for me anyway
[17:31] <ForgeAus> although I do rmeember playing with another PC that I did get it working on
[17:31] <ForgeAus> and all the magic lamp effects and wobbly windows :)
[17:32] <ForgeAus> all good fun :)
[17:32] <Dioxin> yeah I got that to work on my desktop box.. until I managed to kill the comp
[17:32] <ForgeAus> of course at the time it was called beryl...
[17:32] <ForgeAus> but now I assume Compiz-fusion has all that stuff
[17:32] <mot> http://pastebin.com/m35801175 does this make sense to anyone?
[17:33] <Dioxin> nah.. when I got it working it was compiz-fusion.. my box died in november
[17:33] <mot> the highest res i can get on my notebook's lcd w/ the ati driver is 1024x768 and it's awful. that paste has the messages i'm getting when i start x but i'm not sure what to make of them
[17:33] <Dioxin> yes mot its a http link
[17:33] <nitin> hello
[17:33] <mot> ...
[17:34] <nitin> i am new to linux can n e 1 plz tell which file to use for desktop effects
[17:34] <nitin> ?
[17:34] <ForgeAus> file or package?
[17:34] <bazhang> !ccsm | nitin
[17:34] <ubotu> nitin: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[17:34] <nitin> package
[17:34] <_Angelus_> what are the pre-released updates of kubuntu?
[17:34] <ForgeAus> and what kind of effects ? we were just discussing compiz fusion
[17:35] <nitin> so how di i install it?
[17:35] <ForgeAus> you can use adept
[17:35] <ForgeAus> or apt-get install compiz-fusion
[17:35] <Dioxin> ForgeAus everyone likes pretty effects... now they wanna know how to get ours!
[17:35] <ForgeAus> lol Dioxin :)
[17:35] <mot> Dioxin, can you take a look at that link?
[17:35] <Dioxin> yeah I'm looking at it
[17:35] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings manager
[17:36] <bazhang> err -manager
[17:36] <ForgeAus> goo dpoint bazhang I forgot about the sudo bit...
[17:36] <bazhang> hehe
[17:36] <nitin> thanks
[17:36] <Dioxin> mot do you actually have a problem? or do you just not like error messages?
[17:36] <bazhang> no worries :}
[17:37] <ForgeAus> rofl Dioxin :)
[17:37] <sub[t]rnl> mot: you can set a virtual desktop size in your xorg.conf to get rid of the problem
[17:37] <ForgeAus> he has a problem in that he would like a greater resolution if possible I take it
[17:37] <Dioxin> seems like the errors are outputting for s-video which I'm surprised he wants to use
[17:37] <ForgeAus> sub, wouldn't setting his resolution be a better solution?
[17:38] <whatabout> hey people, in kubuntu gutsy, firefox with 4 slide, kopete with this chan and 5 bit tornato, i've 14k ram free , i've 1gb in my mobo....
[17:38] <sub[t]rnl> ForgeAus➜ guess that depends if hes wanting dual displays
[17:38] <whatabout> it's too???
[17:38] <Dioxin> whatabout: unless you have a problem using up all your memory means money well spent
[17:38] <mot> sub[t]rnl, under which section of xorg.conf would i set it? and what's the syntax?
[17:39] <sub[t]rnl> mot: in "Screen" under subsection "Display" example: Virtual 1024x768
[17:39] <mot> all i did was tried to add 1280x1024 into my "DIsplay" section
[17:39] <mot> hmm
[17:39] <mot> what does the virtual keyword do?
[17:40] <sub[t]rnl> mot: increase it to the resolution you need, as the bigger you make it the more video mem it will use
[17:40] <whatabout> why i must spend more money for open software, is this in joint venture with hardware producer ?  (ram ...)
[17:40] <mot> what does the virtual keyword do?
[17:40] <whatabout> :)
[17:40] <ForgeAus> the virtual keyword sets your virtual desktop size rather than the physical one
[17:40] <ForgeAus> ie your screen extends beyond the res
[17:40] <mot> so if i have: Modes "1280x1024"
[17:40] <mot> i can just change it to Virtual "1280x1024" ?
[17:41] <mot> if my screen extends beyond the res wouldn't it "hang" off the sides?
[17:41] <ForgeAus> you could for example have modes "800x600" and virtual "1024x768"
[17:41] <sub[t]rnl> mot: try it
[17:41] <ForgeAus> which means it won't show all of the 1024x768 desktop I gather you need to scroll to it by moving the mouse? or something like that
[17:42] <mot> brb
[17:42] <ForgeAus> sub have you actually used a larger Virtual Desktop before?
[17:42] <sub[t]rnl> ForgeAus➜ yeah, I need one to use dual displays
[17:43] <ForgeAus> but dual display is a little different you simply move the mouse over to the other display right?
[17:43] <sub[t]rnl> ForgeAus➜ but he was wondering about the error messages, and thats how its fixed...
[17:43] <ForgeAus> what if you have a virtual desktop and you want to get to other parts of it on the same screen?...
[17:43] <whatabout> how can i add/remove precesses at startup?
[17:44] <ForgeAus> sub ok fair enough
[17:44] <whatabout> processes
[17:44] <ForgeAus> still leaves me with my question tho
[17:44] <ForgeAus> argh I always forget this one
[17:44] <ForgeAus> kde has a startup location
[17:44] <sub[t]rnl> ForgeAus➜ if you have a virtual desktop larger than the screen resolution, yeah, the mouse will scroll to get it all.. :P
[17:44] <ForgeAus> (analoglous I guess to windows /startup folder in the start menu there)...
[17:45] <ForgeAus> I just don't remember where exactly it is nor what exactly its called
[17:45] <josh__> what do people use to rip cd's in linux?
[17:45] <josh__> i used to use Exact Audio Copy in windows which was the best
[17:45] <bazhang> k3b
[17:45] <ForgeAus> to rip? k3b burns, not sure about ripping
[17:46] <Arwen> josh__, I just dump streams with MPlayer, dunno what level of precision you want though.
[17:46] <sub[t]rnl> whatabout➜ System settings -> Advanced -> System Services
[17:46] <llutz> josh__: grip, konqueror, soundkonverter
[17:46] <josh__> I want the best ripper there is :-P
[17:46] <josh__> if anyone knows?
[17:46] <ForgeAus> josh k3b is GOOD
[17:47] <sub[t]rnl> !best > josh__
[17:47] <sub[t]rnl> i like k3b as well
[17:47] <llutz> josh__: exact audio copy (win) :))
[17:47] <Dioxin> ForgeAus: going back to my previous problem.. I think I'll just unplugged my laptop HDD while I install unix on the usb drive.. seems safest that way
[17:47] <flipstar> josh: abcde
[17:47] <ForgeAus> Dioxin yeah that IS the safest
[17:47] <josh__> ok thanks everyone
[17:48] <Dioxin> but my laptop is sooo shiny I dont want to put a screw driver to it
[17:48] <ForgeAus> as long as you don't need the HDD to store a local copy or temporary one before writing to the flash drive
[17:48] <ForgeAus> can you disable it in the bios?
[17:48] <Dioxin> not a bad idea!
[17:48] <josh__> i was gonna use EAC with wine but it crashed lookin for lame
[17:48]  * ForgeAus grinz
[17:48] <Dioxin> bios is pretty lame
[17:48] <josh__> how do i stop the process?
[17:48] <josh__> i'm a bit of a noob
[17:48] <Dioxin> so not sure I can
[17:49] <Dioxin> KILL! > josh__
[17:49] <Dioxin> might work :D
[17:49] <josh__> HEHE
[17:49] <Odd-rationale> Is there a video editor for kde?
[17:49] <sub[t]rnl> killall processname
[17:49] <ForgeAus> kill is one way
[17:49] <ForgeAus> theres a gui way in sys somethingorother
[17:49] <Arwen> Odd-rationale, Cinelerra
[17:49] <ForgeAus> (gee how precise am I!
[17:50] <Dioxin> ForgeAus I'll catch you in 20 mins and let you know how I get on :D
[17:50] <ForgeAus> you need root priveleges to do it tho
[17:50] <Arwen> or if you don't have either the specs or the balls to use it, you can try Kino
[17:50] <jmeng> hey everyone, I'm looking for a program that takes loads of single frames (.png in my case) as input and spits out a video file
[17:50] <ForgeAus> Dioxin thats if I'm still around
[17:50] <ForgeAus> its way past my bedtime
[17:50] <sub[t]rnl> josh__➜ alt + escape then select a process and kill it
[17:50] <Dioxin> but but! you have to be ! i need you!
[17:50] <Odd-rationale> Arwen: I was wondering about cinerlla. Is it qt?
[17:50] <jmeng> oh it's video talk allready :D
[17:50] <ForgeAus> not that I have one specifically
[17:50] <Arwen> Odd-rationale, you're joking right? nope
[17:50] <Dioxin> kk take care then its 6pm here
[17:50] <sub[t]rnl> josh__➜ ctrl + escape rather
[17:50] <ForgeAus> 4.50 or so AM here
[17:51] <josh__> thanks
[17:51] <Odd-rationale> Arwen: Sorry, I'm a bit noobish.
[17:51] <Dioxin> lol sounds like me the other day then.. went to bed a 7am and up at 9am
[17:51] <Arwen> hehe, they have their own weird GUI
[17:51] <josh__> Thanks everyone and sbu[t]
[17:51] <Odd-rationale> Arwen: So there isn't something made specifically for kde? like kmoviemaker or something?
[17:52] <sub[t]rnl> Kdenlive
[17:52] <sub[t]rnl> !info kdenlive
[17:52] <ubotu> kdenlive (source: kdenlive): A Non-Linear Video Editing Suite for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0.0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 648 kB, installed size 1992 kB
[17:52]  * Arwen only edits on Windows. DirectShow is cool.
[17:52] <flipstar> odd-rationale: try avidemux
[17:53] <Arwen> that's GTK
[17:53] <Odd-rationale> thanks, sub[t]rnl, I'll take a look.
[17:53] <Odd-rationale> flipstar: Is avidemux a gtk app or qt or something esle?
[17:53] <flipstar> its gtk right
[17:53] <Arwen> avidemux is a GTK+ app
[17:54] <Arwen> and has nothing to do with AVIs or de/muxing
[17:54] <Odd-rationale> OK got it. Just looking at the different options.
[17:54] <flipstar> he said video editor :)
[17:54]  * Arwen still says nothing beats AviSynth, but alas it's Windows-only.
[17:54] <Arwen> flipstar, I know, just commenting :-P
[17:55] <Odd-rationale> So it looks like kdenlive is the kde version of pitivi. Is that somewhat correct?
[17:56] <flipstar> right "Kdenlive uses Piave as it's video rendering engine to display and manipulate video clips."
[17:58] <Odd-rationale> OK thanks guys!
[17:58] <Odd-rationale> How about audio editing? Is audacity gtk?
[17:59] <flipstar> audacity is a player only
[17:59] <Odd-rationale> flipstar: I thought that was audacious...
[17:59] <Arwen> yes, it is indeed GTK+
[17:59] <flipstar> oh right
[17:59] <Arwen> and Audacity is an editor
[17:59] <flipstar> sry
[17:59] <Jasmin_> sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[17:59] <Jasmin_> compizconfig-settings-manager emerald librsvg2-common
[17:59] <Arwen> eventually you have to realize that GTK+ greatly outnumbers QT
[18:00] <mot> so
[18:00] <Jasmin_> i installed this package now what do i hav to do
[18:00] <mot> under the DIsplay section of my xorg.conf
[18:00] <mot> i added: Modes "1024x768" and below it, Virtual "1280x1024"
[18:00] <Odd-rationale> I find qt apps to be more polished, though.
[18:00] <mot> and when i booted i got an error on Xorg.0.log saying it couldn't parse that second bit
[18:01] <Jasmin_> sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[18:01] <Jasmin_> compizconfig-settings-manager emerald librsvg2-common
[18:01] <Jasmin_> i installed this package now what do i hav to do
[18:02] <Odd-rationale> Is jokosher gtk as well?
[18:02] <Odd-rationale> nv. It looks like it.
[18:03] <sub[t]rnl> Jasmin_➜ alt + f2 compiz --replace, to go back to using kde's window manager, use kwin --replace
[18:04] <flipstar> better compiz --replace &&emerald
[18:04] <flipstar> otherwize you have no window manager
[18:05] <sub[t]rnl> emerald starts automatically
[18:05] <sub[t]rnl> if its installed
[18:05] <sub[t]rnl> its the default window manager for compiz
[18:05] <flipstar> i had to set it first in ccsm..
[18:06] <Jasmin_> sub[t]rnl: how to see effect
[18:06] <sub[t]rnl> Jasmin_➜ open your compiz config settings manager (ccsm) to learn the key bindings
[18:07] <sub[t]rnl> Jasmin_➜ example, hold down ctrl + alt and press a directional arrow to turn the cube
[18:08] <Jasmin_> ccsm this command could not running
[18:08] <Odd-rationale> I'm trying to figure out ktorrent. I'm seeding the kubuntu livecd. On the peers tab, there is only one person. Does that mean there is only one person currently using the kubuntu live cd torrent?
[18:09] <tiraha> hi
[18:09] <mot> what is the syntax
[18:09] <mot> for setting a virtual desktop size?
[18:10] <sub[t]rnl> Odd-rationale➜ a peer is someone on the network that you can connect to and transfer data.  Usually a peer doesn't have the complete file
[18:10] <mot> is it: Virtual X Y
[18:10] <mot> or Virtual XxY
[18:10] <mot> (in X)
[18:10] <sub[t]rnl> Virtual X Y
[18:10] <mot> wtf it isn't working
[18:10] <mot> i have Virtual 1280 1024
[18:10] <Jasmin_> what is this
[18:10] <mot> and it isn't doing anything. X still starts with Mode "1024x768"
[18:10] <sub[t]rnl> try "1280 1024"
[18:10] <Odd-rationale> sub[t]rnl: Hmm. Now my upload stopped. Why is that?
[18:11] <mot> mkay hang on let me restart x
[18:11] <flipstar> the tracker status is ok ?
[18:11] <flipstar> normally you should have a dozen of peers
[18:12] <Odd-rationale> flipstar: Seems like it. I don't have any errors...
[18:12] <sub[t]rnl> Odd-rationale➜ are you behind a router?
[18:12] <flipstar> do you seed it by yourself or using an 'official' torrent file ?
[18:13] <Odd-rationale> flipstar: I'm using the torrent file from the kubuntu download page.
[18:13] <flipstar> oaky
[18:13] <flipstar> *okay
[18:13] <Odd-rationale> sub[t]rnl: Uh. I don't know...
[18:13] <firecrotch> Odd-rationale:  What's your ISP ?
[18:14] <Odd-rationale> firecrotch: roadrunner, formerly comcast
[18:16] <Odd-rationale> I see a column Seeders: 0(52) Leechers: 1(6) What does that mean?
[18:17] <flipstar> first number is the number of connected, the second is the number of peers in the swarm
[18:18] <Odd-rationale> flipstar: OK so there are 52 seeders but 0 connected. right?
[18:18] <mot> how do i force kubuntu to reconfigure x?
[18:18] <flipstar> right
[18:18] <Odd-rationale> !xorg | mot
[18:18] <sub[t]rnl> mot: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:18] <ubotu> mot: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:18] <mot> it keeps saying "vrefresh out of range" for all of these modes
[18:19] <mot> it just seems like it's not properly detecting the vsync/hsync and refresh rates which is why it won't go higher than 1024x768
[18:19] <Odd-rationale> Hmm. I can kick a peer. Would I ever need to do that?
[18:20] <Arwen> if they're flooding you with bad data
[18:20] <Arwen> your client will probably ban them for you though
[18:20] <Odd-rationale> Arwen: I probably wouldn't even know if they did...
[18:21] <Odd-rationale> Hey, thanks for all the help guys. I'll probably be back later. see ya!
[18:28] <Arwen> I removed the KMail package, but in my Dolphin context menu, there's still a "mail as attachment" option that now does nothing. Is it possible to eliminate that?
[18:29] <mot___> how do i reconfigure x agaain?
[18:29] <Qba_rozpruwacz> HI
[18:29] <mot___> apparently i can't use the fglrx driver, i'm forced to use the ati one
[18:30] <Qba_rozpruwacz> I have a problem: I don't have polish font and UTF-8 encoding in Konsole (Ubuntu 8.04 alpha 3)
[18:30] <mot___> reconfigure x, anyone?
[18:31] <Qba_rozpruwacz> The encoding is switching to "default" every time I restart Konsole
[18:31] <Qba_rozpruwacz> So what I have to do?
[18:31] <reverend_joshua> 'm on 6.06 and i want to upgrade to 7.10.  i have the image burned to disk, can i upgrade while in 6.06 or do i have to boot from the 7.10 cd?
[18:32] <Arwen> I think you have to boot from 7.10
[18:32] <reverend_joshua> does it completely overwrite 6.06 or does it keep configurations and whatnot?
[18:32] <Arwen> depends on your partitioning scheme
[18:32] <ForgeAus> if you install it will overwrite
[18:32] <mot___> how do i reconfigure x?
[18:33] <ForgeAus> (but yeah arwin is right too you can install to a separate partition)
[18:33] <reverend_joshua> ok
[18:33] <reverend_joshua> thanks
[18:33] <muesli> reverend_joshua: you can simply update via the network, no cds needed
[18:33] <ForgeAus> arwen why can't you just upgrade from the packages on the livecd?
[18:33] <reverend_joshua> how do i update via network?
[18:33] <mot___> !x
[18:33] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:33] <mot___> !reconfigure x
[18:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reconfigure x - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:33] <Arwen> ForgeAus, you could if you have a lot of balls and a lot of time. The real reason is that there are too many changes between the versions.
[18:34] <ForgeAus> ok
[18:34] <reverend_joshua> i only have two balls, does that meet system requirements?
[18:34] <Captain_Haddock> Hi. This is the first time I'm trying to set up RAID on my box and I'm looking for help. I've set up a RAID1 array via my BIOS. Do I need to do anything in Kubuntu?
[18:34] <Arwen> Captain_Haddock, you need dmraid
[18:35] <Captain_Haddock> Arwen: it appears that the mirroring is happening on the motherboard. Do I still need Linux to do anything about it? (What does dmraid do?)
[18:35]  * Captain_Haddock googles in the meantime
[18:35] <Arwen> Motherboard RAID is actually done in drivers. dmraid is a kind of driver for "fakeraid" setups.
[18:35] <spykedtomato> does anyone know of a program that will analyze the bpm in my mp3's? Preferably an amarok script, but those seem few and far between...
[18:36] <Captain_Haddock> "dmraid - discover software RAID devices and activate RAID sets  "
[18:36] <Captain_Haddock> cool, thanks Arwen
[18:37] <Qba_from_PL> I dont know what to do
[18:37] <Captain_Haddock> Arwen: I just have 2 drives in the array. I should be able to add more at any time, right?
[18:37] <Captain_Haddock> Qba_from_PL: about what?
[18:37] <Qba_from_PL> The fonts
[18:38] <Qba_from_PL> I don't have pl fonts in Konsole
[18:38] <flipstar> yeah if your bios is capable to do this..its no prob ;)
[18:38] <Arwen> Captain_Haddock, by definition, RAID 1 is 2 drives
[18:38] <flipstar> since it is a hardware raid
[18:38] <Arwen> no reason it couldn't scale though
[18:38] <Qba_from_PL> And every time I close Konsole the encoding is going to "default" but I need UTF-8
[18:38] <Captain_Haddock> flipstar: cool. I'm assuming it's hardware raid. But I've also read that cheap boards with RAID are actually pseudo software RAIDs or some such.
[18:38] <flipstar> but he can make raid 5 or so out of it
[18:39] <flipstar> yeah possible
[18:39] <mrbrdo_> i just installed the latest ATI binary drivers, and it's xorg module (which required compiz to install), and did aticonfig --intial. now, when i start x i just get that grey screen with the X cursor and that's it.. any ideas? the only error i see in the log is (EE) fglrx(0): [drm] failed to remove DRM signal handler
[18:39] <Captain_Haddock> Qba_from_PL: No idea, sorry.
[18:39] <flipstar> just take a look at your cpu usage ;)
[18:40] <Qba_from_PL> hmm I can set encoding by "Settings" -> "encoding" but anything I do, I don't have pl font in that *** Konsole
[18:41] <Captain_Haddock> Arwen: RAID set "nvidia_cfhbejfd" already active is the message that dmraid gives. Anything more I should do?
[18:41]  * Captain_Haddock is also installing a new hard drive (s) in Linux for the first time.
[18:41] <Arwen> guess not
[18:41]  * Arwen doesn't touch RAID, it smells like fish
[18:42] <Captain_Haddock> Considering how reliable hard drives are nowadays, I have no choice but to use it.
[18:42]  * Captain_Haddock huggles his MP3 collection :|
[18:42] <ForgeAus> hmm wheres D! I'll be falling asleep soon at the keyboard I Think!
[18:43] <ForgeAus> Arwen if I die and get reincarnated as a fish let it please be a red herring :)
[18:43] <Qba_from_PL> BYe
[18:44] <Captain_Haddock> I now have "Drive 1", "Unknown Disk" and "Drive 2" in the Disks & Filesystems window. Which am I supposed to use?
[18:44] <Captain_Haddock> I was hoping that there'd only be one choice :|
[18:45] <spykedtomato> does anyone know of a program that will analyze the bpm in my mp3's? Preferably an amarok script, but those seem few and far between...
[18:45] <ForgeAus> Captain can you go by /dev/hda etc names instead
[18:45] <ForgeAus> like what it shows in qtparted?
[18:46] <mrbrdo_> i just installed the latest ATI binary drivers, and it's xorg module (which required compiz to install), and did aticonfig --intial. now, when i start x i just get that grey screen with the X cursor and that's it.. any ideas? the only error i see in the log is (EE) fglrx(0): [drm] failed to remove DRM signal handler
[18:46] <Captain_Haddock> ForgeAus: Same order as the above list, right clicking and selecting details gives me "/dev/sda" "/dev/sdb" and "/dev/sdb" respectively.
[18:46] <Captain_Haddock> i.e., the unknown disk is also sdb
[18:47] <ForgeAus> no sdb1 vs sdb2?
[18:47] <Captain_Haddock> nope
[18:47] <Captain_Haddock> I'm guess these are not formatted or some such.
[18:47] <Captain_Haddock> guessing*
[18:47] <ForgeAus> well to check that qtparted should say
[18:47] <Captain_Haddock> ok, sec
[18:48] <ForgeAus> it generally detects the filesystems and how full
[18:48] <ForgeAus> (so it gives you a reasonable way of telling one partition from another
[18:48] <genii> mrbrdo_: That is the barebones X server. Did you have kde or gnome on it previously?
[18:49] <Captain_Haddock> ForgeAus: In qtparted, I see SDA1 and SDB1 when I click on each drive. It says that the partition table is empty.
[18:49] <ForgeAus> note : sdb refers to the entire disk device, sdb1,2,3 etc refers to partitions on that disk
[18:49] <Captain_Haddock> and I have an option to create a table
[18:49]  * Captain_Haddock goes ahead and does so
[18:49] <ForgeAus> ok could be something to do with the raid then
[18:49] <ForgeAus> I don't really know that much about it
[18:49] <Captain_Haddock> er or should I only be doing this for one drive?
[18:50] <ForgeAus> no I don't suggest you partition it without checking out the raid info first...
[18:50] <ForgeAus> !raid
[18:50] <mrbrdo_> genii yes
[18:50] <Captain_Haddock> ok, thanks dude
[18:50] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[18:50] <mrbrdo_> genii if i copy over my old xorg.conf it works fine like before
[18:51] <mrbrdo_> genii actually it is enough that i only change the driver from VESA to fglrx, and then i get this grey screen
[18:52] <mrbrdo_> genii also note this happens when i start with startx... if i start from kdm, then i just see only the background image and nothing else, forever
[18:52] <mrbrdo_> but kdm does work, i can login.. just after the login there comes this problem
[18:53] <genii> mrbrdo_: If you use "startx" you do not get kde or gnome but as I said the barebones X server which is what you are seeing there with grey and X cursor.
[18:54] <jel> genii: otherwise known as "1970" :D
[18:54] <genii> mrbrdo_: Are you seeing anything on the second video port/screen?
[18:54] <mrbrdo_> genii i don't have anything connected
[18:54] <genii> jel: Pretty much, yeah :)
[18:54] <mrbrdo_> genii but also the xorg.conf is identical like my previous configuration except for the Driver setting which is changed from vesa to fglrx
[18:55] <mrbrdo_> and if i change back to vesa it works fine like before, only with the vesa driver, not ati, though
[18:55] <genii> mrbrdo_: Change the name to ati    and see if it gets you in at least
[18:55] <wesley_> !adeptfix
[18:55] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:56] <mrbrdo_> genii: no, then xorg does not even show up but errors out before
[18:56] <mrbrdo_> it says no screens found
[18:57] <mrbrdo_> genii: maybe i must change something so xgl will run? i only installed the server-xgl package nothing more
[18:58] <genii> mrbrdo_: after kdm login where you see just background switch the monitor to other adapter and see if X thinks it's the primary now
[18:58] <genii> other plug of same adapter, actually
[18:59] <mrbrdo_> i'm on notebook, but i have a VGA out, i will try, sec
[18:59] <Jasmin_> sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager  i installed this package now how can i see effect on my kubuntu
[19:00]  * selene is away: Gone away for now.
[19:00] <jel> mrbrdo_: You might need to edit /etc/kde{3,4}/kdm/kdmrc for Xgl; not sure
[19:00] <genii> Jasmin_: run it by:  alt-f2 ccsm                      then configure what effects, etc. Then run compiz by:  alt-f2   compiz --replace
[19:01] <mrbrdo_> genii: i tried.. there is signal, but only black screen
[19:01] <genii> Jasmin_: if compiz messes up try alt-f2 kwin --replace
[19:01] <Jasmin_> genii: ok
[19:02] <genii> mrbrdo_: The ati cards have some problems determining ddc, but under linux I am not sure of the fix.
[19:02] <genii> mrbrdo_: Did you try the manual install outlined at the wiki.cchtml site?
[19:03] <mrbrdo_> no i don't know which site you are talking about actually
[19:03] <genii> mrbrdo_: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_Catalyst_8.1_Driver_Manually
[19:03] <mrbrdo_> i did follow the wiki to install the drivers manually from ATI's site, but i had to also install compiz for it to work
[19:04] <genii> mrbrdo_:  I recommend the link provided above, no install of compiz etc etc needed.
[19:05] <Jasmin_> genii: nothing happen on my screen what do i hav to do
[19:05] <genii> Jasmin_: You have to tell ccsm what effects you want to enable and so on. Or did it not run?
[19:06] <Dioxinx> guys I've got a really easy question for you all... and I feel pretty stupid I dont know the answer
[19:07] <Dioxinx> I installed Kubuntu onto a USB Drive and it booted
[19:07] <genii> Jasmin: If you mean the alt-f2 compiz --replace     did not seem to do anything, there is no drastic sudden change in the appearance of your desktop.
[19:07] <Dioxinx> aI even remembered my username and pw
[19:07] <Dioxinx> but I couldnt remember how to startup the GUI
[19:08] <mrbrdo_> genii: it is required with the current ATI drivers or the xorg package that is created by their binary installer won't install
[19:08] <mrbrdo_> genii: i followed some steps from the guide and rebooted, will soon see..
[19:08] <genii> hmm "some steps"
[19:08] <mrbrdo_> well i didn't install the driver again
[19:09] <mrbrdo_> but other than that i followed all the other steps
[19:09] <mrbrdo_> i installed it the same way anyway
[19:09] <mrbrdo_> btw didn't fix anything i've still got the same problem
[19:10] <Jasmin_> genii: it is not running
[19:12] <Jasmin_> genii: when i did this command kwin --replace its just flash something n stop
[19:12] <tjmelin> test
[19:13] <Strangelet> I have my HD divided into seperate partitions, I am attempting to install Windows XP on one of the partitions. For some strange reason, the XP installation cannot sense my HD, why is this?
[19:13] <flipstar> do you have a sata disc ?
[19:13] <flipstar> then xp needs sata drivers ;)
[19:14] <genii> Jasmin_: did you do: kwin --replace               from alt-f2   or in Konsole or from ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[19:14] <Dioxinx> strangelet: I had a problem where vista couldnt find my HDD too.. then I remember I'd removed to from my laptop so it didnt interfere with the USB drive install :D
[19:15] <mrbrdo_> genii any other idea maybe
[19:15] <Strangelet> Dioxinx: Sorry, I didn't understand that second sentence, could you pelase rephrase that?
[19:15] <Dioxinx> vista couldnt find my hdd... it was sitting on my desk
[19:15] <genii> mrbrdo_: Do you have some link to the previous exercise you did which needed something from compiz?
[19:16] <Dioxinx> unattached
[19:16] <genii> mrbrdo_: It may provide some clues to the problem
[19:16] <jel> Dioxinx: which is the ideal state for a hard drive, when vista is around.
[19:16] <mrbrdo_> genii: i only followed the wiki, but i got an error, that's why i installed compiz, not because a guide told me so
[19:16] <mrbrdo_> genii: but it did fix the problem
[19:16] <Strangelet> Dioxinx: Your HD was detached? It external?
[19:16] <Dioxinx> screwed in is pretty useful
[19:17] <Dioxinx> I unscrewed it REMOVED IT and forgot to put it back
[19:17] <Jasmin_> genii: i did that but its not working i mean nothing happen on the screen
[19:17] <mrbrdo_> genii: like, when you tell ati binary to create deb packages, it makes one for the driver and one for the Xorg module.. the Xorg module was complaining because it didn't find something compiz-related, and when i installed it, then that package installed too
[19:17] <Dioxinx> well I found it funny :D
[19:17] <jel> Jasmin_: kde4's kwin is so much easier ;)
[19:18] <Dioxinx> can anyone tell me how to start the gui from command prompt?
[19:18] <jel> Dioxinx: startx
[19:18] <genii> Jasmin_: Did the program ccsm run?
[19:18] <Dioxinx> cheers Jel
[19:18] <flipstar> startx or /etc/init.d/kdm start
[19:18] <flipstar> with sudo the second ;)
[19:19] <emetux> I need to mount a server dns, you help me
[19:19] <Dioxinx> depends Emetux is she hot?
[19:19] <genii> mrbrdo_: Do you happen to recall what compiz-related thing it was asking for?
[19:19] <jel> lol
[19:20] <mrbrdo_> genii: no sorry, not really.. it was something in /etc/xdm i think
[19:20] <Dioxinx> catch you guys later before I get kicked out for bad humour
[19:20] <mrbrdo_> a conf file i guess, but i can't remember exactly
[19:21] <mrbrdo_> i'm not sure that it is a problem if you have compiz installed though, although i have no idea what the problem could be here
[19:22] <genii> Jasmin_: Did the program ccsm run?
[19:25] <jasmin__> genii: hello
[19:28] <jasmin__> genii: i did alt+f2 n kwin --replace command but its now working
[19:31] <jasmin__> plz any one help me
[19:34] <jasmin__> how do i see effect on my kubuntu
[19:35] <flipstar> check the ccsm for key bindings ;)
[19:36] <Strangelet> I have my HD divided into seperate partitions, I am attempting to install Windows XP on one of the partitions. For some strange reason, the XP installation cannot sense my HD, why is this?
[19:37] <genii> jasmin__: If the: alt-f2 then: compiz --replace             works then compiz runs fine. You just need to know what combinations of keys or mouse do what. For this you should go ask in the channel #compiz-fusion however
[19:37] <grul> maybe it's a sata-disk and an old xp disk
[19:37] <SlimeyPete> Strangelet: if it's SATA you need XP SP2, but this is the wrong channel to discuss this in.
[19:37] <genii> mrbrdo_: xdm ??
[19:38] <Strangelet> SlimeyPete: Hm, where should I bring my problem to then?
[19:38] <jasmin__> genii: ok thanks
[19:38] <SlimeyPete> I wonder if there's a Windows channel
[19:38] <SlimeyPete> !windows
[19:38] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[19:39] <SlimeyPete> yeah, ##windows :)
[19:39] <mrbrdo_> genii: i don't know what it is, maybe it was something else but it started with x and had 3 letters
[19:40] <mrbrdo_> genii: i found some references to AIGLX in my xorg logs, but AIGLX doesn't work for my card
[19:40] <mrbrdo_> i only installed server-xgl, why is aiglx showing up?
[19:41] <mrbrdo_> genii: i see here that it was built into xorg... nevermind then i guess.. how can i be sure that server-xgl is running?
[19:46] <linux-a> Hello @ all!
[19:49] <genii> mrbrdo_: Can you pastebin your original xorg.conf for examination?
[19:49] <mrbrdo_> yes wait a bit
[19:50] <genii> mrbrdo_: Sorry for lag, work keeps needing me here and there for a few minutes or so at a time. But I'm not going anywhere.
[19:51] <mrbrdo_> ok cool
[19:56] <Arwen> does Dolphin not have a tree view? wtf?
[19:57] <jel> Arwen: You don't need it.  Hold the button down on the breadcrumbs.
[19:57] <Arwen> ???
[19:57] <Arwen> English please.
[19:58] <jel> That was english, you're just not familiar with dolphin yet :)
[19:58] <Arwen> well, explain
[19:58] <jel> Where the address bar would normally be, there are folder names, right?  So if you hold the button down on a parent folder, it'll popup a menu showing all the other folders at that level
[19:58] <genii> look for some dots
[19:59] <Arwen> jel, cool. I still want a tree view
[19:59] <jel> Arwen: then that's why they kept konqueror around.
[19:59] <Arwen> GAH
[19:59] <jasmin__> #ubuntu
[20:06] <p-f> Is there a way to get disk I/O information in a display similar to top?
[20:11] <jel> Hmm.  Why does man 4 mouse give me the pinouts for a serial mouse instead of the xorg driver stuff?
[20:13] <val0> qemu vs vmware... can't make up my mind since i've only used vmware briefly on windows... any thoughts? Pros/Cons?
[20:13] <draik> Is it just me or does the MSN messenger in Kopete pick and choose which people to add?
[20:13] <draik> It won't remember the contacts that I add. Any suggestions for this issue?
[20:15] <mrbrdo_> genii: i followed the tutorial here now, installing the repo (hardy) drivers: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[20:15] <awen_> jel: man mousedrv
[20:15] <mrbrdo_> genii: now i get into X and it works, but i have excessive tearing and using the MESA drivers not fglrx
[20:15] <mrbrdo_> modprobe fglrx says FATAL while loading
[20:16] <jel> awen_: ahh, thanks :)
[20:16] <mrbrdo_> even though i installed sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[20:17] <awen_> val0: they both seem to work great... started using vmware, but switched to qemu as vmware doesn't work on hardy
[20:17] <sub[t]rnl> val0➜ qemu is a bit more difficult to setup, but you can do more with it, like real 386 emulation.  You can run OS/2 in qemu but not the others, because the others don't want to implement the rarely used cpu features.
[20:17] <`Zmax`> does kvirc is in some meta-package?
[20:17] <genii> mrbrdo_: Hmm. Try commenting out any xgl section in xorg.conf if it exists
[20:17] <mrbrdo_> genii: the most noticable error i get is "atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been initialized."
[20:17] <draik> If I were to uninstall Kopete, will I lose my chat logs?
[20:18] <awen_> val0: i rather like qemu now... especially the compressed drive files and the advanced networking
[20:18] <genii> mrbrdo_: There is a section in that wiki that has futher instgructions on if dri issues
[20:18] <mrbrdo_> which wiki, ubuntus?
[20:19] <mrbrdo_> nothing about xgl in the conf file
[20:20] <genii> the cchtml one
[20:21] <jel> draik: no
[20:21] <jel> draik: but they won't be available to some other chat program, most likely.
[20:22] <draik> jel: I thought that maybe a reinstall may work/help.
[20:23] <AdamB> ok, i have a program that looks for a http header from a certain site on the internet, this header has changed so the program no longer works, i want to know if theirs a way i can fake this header?
[20:23] <jel> draik: very much doubt it.  Deleting your kopete config might help, but I doubt that too (less :).  If you DO want to reinstall stuff, you can just do apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[20:23] <draik> jel: Thank you.
[20:24] <Phoenix92x> hi, Im running 7.10, I think I'm having some sort of a problem with xine but I'm not sure. All my videos are playing with audio but the video is jumbled. Could anyone help me?
[20:25] <Phoenix92x> happens with both mplayer and xine, just tried both engines
[20:25] <val0> awen_: cool, thanks, what about the ease of use? Vmware is a breeze to use, plus you can save your machines/servers and instantly reload in case of a crash
[20:27] <awen_> val0: it takes a bit more to setup; but you can restore/reload fine with qemu... and you can make a base system and make a new disk from this which only takes the space of the difference; great for multiple instances of the same OS
[20:28] <iulian_> a question: did anywone tried the new KDE 4?
[20:28] <val0> awen_: would you say that it can be suggested as a replacement to vmware in a production enviornment?
[20:29] <awen_> val0: haven't tried it in a production environment... but it seems fit; haven't found any problems while using it
[20:30] <awen_> val0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo ... and definately have a look at the advanced networking part
[20:30] <Phoenix92x> the video doesn't change, I just get some multicolored lines (usually purple/green/blue) that just sit there
[20:30] <Phoenix92x> if someone could help me with this I'd be most grateful
[20:30] <val0> awen_: thanks will do
[20:31] <ktulu77> hi there !
[20:31] <mrbrdo_> i installed xorg-driver-fglrx and lsmod | grep fglrx displays nothing.. i followed all steps in http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Troubleshooting (No 3D acceleration) but it didn't help
[20:32] <ktulu77> does someone have an idea why kicker doesn't launch automaticaly at startup ?
[20:32] <mrbrdo_> genii: u have any idea maybe?
[20:32] <ktulu77> mrbrdo_: you should use the restriscted manager to install fglrx
[20:33] <mrbrdo_> how?
[20:33] <mrbrdo_> i installed also linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager
[20:33] <ktulu77> mrbrdo_: by launching it
[20:33] <mrbrdo_> should i uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx now?
[20:34] <ktulu77> I don't know yes perhaps
[20:34] <ktulu77> I don't use any tricks with the console now because there is a graphical tool for installing restricted drivers
[20:35] <Datalanche> !softwareraid
[20:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about softwareraid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:35] <Phoenix92x> I'm running 7.10 and video playback doesnt work for any video files, any format, any engine. I can't remember changing anything, this started today. Can anyone help me figure this out?
[20:35] <ktulu77> you need linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager-kde
[20:35] <ktulu77> Phoenix is 3d effects enable ?
[20:36] <Datalanche> !fakeraid
[20:36] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[20:36] <Phoenix92x> ktulu77: I don't know, where would I check that? I don't remember enabling it. You mean compiz/beryl?
[20:36] <Phoenix92x> I don't have compiz/beryl installed, removed it so I could get dualhead setup to work properly
[20:36] <Phoenix92x> this is so bizarre...worked fine yesterday...
[20:37] <august_> hola
[20:37] <ktulu77> Phoenix bizarre ?
[20:37] <august_> holas necesito ayuda
[20:37] <ktulu77> Phoenix francais ??
[20:37] <Phoenix92x> it just seems like nothing changed, yet this problem started so something must have
[20:37] <Phoenix92x> nope, don't speak french
[20:37] <august_> spanish?
[20:37] <ktulu77> Phoenix you tried with mplayer or vlc ?
[20:37] <Phoenix92x> ktulu: have tried both
[20:37] <ktulu77> august_: un poquito
[20:38] <Phoenix92x> doesn't seem to be working for anything
[20:38] <august_> juacommmm
[20:38] <august_> jajja
[20:38] <ktulu77> Phoenix in a console ? is there any error messages ?
[20:38] <juacom99> august_:(Y)
[20:38] <juacom99> join #kubuntues
[20:38] <Phoenix92x> ktulu77: none
[20:38] <august_> no conoses a nadie q sepa
[20:39] <mrbrdo_> i installed using restricted-manager (fglrx) but still it does not work
[20:39] <ktulu77> Phoenix and what the video looks like ?
[20:39] <august_> como ago para encontrar otras saalas?
[20:39] <juacom99> mira el msn -.-'
[20:40] <ktulu77> mrbrdo_: what does the restricted manager says ? "you need restricted drivers" or something like that ?
[20:40] <Phoenix92x> ktulu77: blue/purple/green lines that dont change or move
[20:40] <ktulu77> Phoenix ouille
[20:40] <Phoenix92x> ouille?
[20:40] <ktulu77> Phoenix I had this problem but I had compiz enabled
[20:41] <ktulu77> Phoenix do you use restricted drivers ?
[20:41] <Phoenix92x> maybe I installed soething for it...
[20:41] <Phoenix92x> crap..
[20:41] <ktulu77> what is your video card ?
[20:41] <Phoenix92x> I use the nvidia restricted drivers but I've had those installed from the beginning
[20:41] <mrbrdo_> ktulu77 no nothing
[20:41] <eu> hello
[20:41] <mrbrdo_> ktulu77 it installed the ati driver
[20:41] <mrbrdo_> and now modprobe fglrx says no error
[20:42] <august_> sudo /join kubuntu-es
[20:42] <mrbrdo_> but i still have MESA and no 3D
[20:42] <ktulu77> mrbrdo_: you see your ati video card with lspci ?
[20:42] <mrbrdo_> yes
[20:42] <eu> how can i test my video-card driver??
[20:42] <ktulu77> Phoenix perhaps you should try with the vesa driver in xorg :( to see if the problem is the videocard
[20:43] <niall_> is flash fixed yet?
[20:43] <ktulu77> niall_: flash ? the plugin for linux works well
[20:43] <Phoenix92x> ktulu77: I'll give it a shot I guess
[20:44] <mrbrdo_> ktulu77 i get this error all the time in xorg log: http://pastebin.com/m450d50cc
[20:44] <Phoenix92x> I dont understand how that could do it though. I haven't changed the driver and this just started today
[20:44] <ktulu77> Phoenix this kind of problem (green lines etc) is most of time a hardware or driver problem I suppose
[20:44] <Phoenix92x> thanks
[20:44] <Phoenix92x> I'll try it
[20:45] <ktulu77> phoenixz: I don't know anymore how to use ati video cards
[20:45] <mrbrdo_> ktulu77 a little more actually, 2 lines before that if it helps: http://pastebin.com/m430a924f
[20:45] <ktulu77> mrbrdo_: perhaps the package you installed broke the xorg.conf
[20:46] <mrbrdo_> no i copied over the old one and did aticonfig
[20:46] <niall_> how do I install flash to work in konquerer?
[20:46] <ktulu77> mrbrdo_: you are not on 7.10
[20:46] <mrbrdo_> no i'm on hardy
[20:46] <mrbrdo_> kubuntu hardy..
[20:46] <ktulu77> niall_: it should work automatically no ? there is an option for plugins in konqueror
[20:46] <ktulu77> mrbrdo_:  ohhh okkk !!
[20:46] <mrbrdo_> well i must go.. if you have any idea, please tell me on private message. thanks
[20:47]  * mrbrdo_ is away
[20:47] <ktulu77> mrbrdo_: so I can't do anything it is a dev version so it is normal if there are problems
[20:47] <eu> for flash i use firefox
[20:47] <davies> !away > mrbrdo_
[20:47] <ktulu77> flash plugin works well with konqueror
[20:47] <ikonia> ! away > mrbrdo_
[20:47] <davies> ikonia: beat you to it
[20:47] <ikonia> davies: so you did, apologies
[20:47] <niall_> I can't see any flash stuff :/
[20:48] <ikonia> ktulu77: I don't think it does work with konq at th emoment
[20:48] <ktulu77> niall_: you watched in "configuration" ??
[20:48] <ktulu77> ikonia: let me try
[20:48] <Strangelet> Could anyone suggest a program that can edit ISOs?
[20:48] <eu> ktulu77 > i tried to download flashplugins but adobe site told me that i needed mozilla,opera to download them
[20:48] <ktulu77> youtube works fine with konqueror
[20:49] <jel> eu: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:49] <jel> eu: don't download stuff from sites
[20:49] <ktulu77> go to "configuration -> external modules" or something like that
[20:49] <eu> jel > eheh...i'm a bit newbie =P
[20:49] <ktulu77> here you can specify to search external modules in firefox plugins directory
[20:49] <ikonia> ktulu77: depends what version of the flash plugin you have
[20:50] <ktulu77> ikonia: I have the one for kubuntu
[20:50] <ktulu77> in the repository
[20:50] <Dioxin> guys I tried to load up startx and it gave me a load of stuff saying no window blah blah, how can I change setting from command prompt
[20:50] <ktulu77> I guess
[20:50] <ikonia> ktulu77: when did you install it
[20:50] <ktulu77> wow I don't remember
[20:50] <ikonia> ktulu77: say longer than 8 weeks ago
[20:50] <ktulu77> when 7.10 was out
[20:50] <ikonia> ktulu77: and that's why it works
[20:50] <ikonia> ktulu77: they have changed the plugin scince
[20:51] <ikonia> the old one is not availale
[20:51] <ktulu77> they haved change the plugin ?
[20:51] <eu> jel > downloaded with apt-get install =P
[20:51] <ikonia> ktulu77: yes
[20:51] <ktulu77> Oh I remember I had a problem when I installed ubuntu on a friend computer
[20:51] <ikonia> !flash | ktulu77
[20:51] <jel> eu: OK, well done :)  Now open konqueror, go to settings, then configure plugins, then plugins.  Choose rescan plugins.
[20:51] <ktulu77> It could downloaded
[20:51] <ktulu77> could not
[20:52] <ubotu> ktulu77: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[20:52] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[20:52] <ktulu77> but I think it has been fixed since that, is not it ?
[20:52] <ikonia> nope
[20:52] <ktulu77> ikonia: hm ok I understand, but this not a konqueror problem
[20:52] <Dioxin> !startx > Dioxin
[20:52] <ikonia> ktulu77: no, it's a flash issue
[20:53] <ktulu77> you can download the flashplugin on adobe website and use it for konqueror or firefox
[20:53] <eu> i have 2 questions...can i?
[20:53] <ikonia> ktulu77: no you can't
[20:53] <ktulu77> oO
[20:53] <ikonia> ktulu77: adobe has changed the plugin
[20:53] <ikonia> ktulu77: it will only work with firefox
[20:53] <eu> no ...adobe's plugin does not work on konqueror
[20:53] <toens> noob question: if i install kubuntu on a xp machine will the installer give me the option for a dual boot? or will i need to do the whole lilo thing..
[20:53] <ktulu77> hm oky !
[20:53] <joe__> is there a way to clear the printer spool in Ubuntu? I have 16 pages waiting to print and no printer hooked up
[20:54] <ktulu77> well it works well here so I don't touch anything :D
[20:54] <ikonia> ktulu77: very wise
[20:54] <eu> i've installed superkaramba with adept and the question is....where can i find it? °_°
[20:54] <ktulu77> then, can someone know what file I need to "reinitialize" to have kicker launched on startup ?
[20:54] <Strangelet> Could anyone suggest a program that can edit ISOs?
[20:54] <niall_> I thought it didn't work
[20:54] <Traveler4> hello, general question, my computer won't post unless i press the reset key each time after i press the power on button, what could be the problem? i just recently installed kubuntu
[20:55] <ktulu77> I have installed "the tweaker" for kde but now i have problems
[20:55] <joe__> I used to have a little icon up near my clock, for my printer que, for some reason I set it not to display there, how can I get that back?
[20:55] <Odd-rationale> toens: Depends how you partition your hdd.
[20:55] <eu> how stupid i am ...i found karamba ! -.-
[20:55] <Dioxin> Traveler4 : your hardware is screwy clean the box check the wires and try again
[20:55] <toens> anyone?
[20:55] <ktulu77> I can't choose when I clic on disconnect to change user or else
[20:56] <Odd-rationale> toens: If you do a guided partition, you should be fine
[20:56] <cheesypieces> hi guys anyone know how i can unlock adept?
[20:56] <ikonia> toens: saying anyone means nothing
[20:56] <jel> cheesypieces: rm /var/lock/adept/*.lock, or something like that.  Look for a lock file for adept under /var/lock, anyway.
[20:56] <toens> Odd-rationale, thanks
[20:56] <Odd-rationale> !adept fix | cheesypieces
[20:56] <ubotu> cheesypieces: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:57] <Traveler4> Dioxin o thanks alot, i should do that, do u also know a chatroom for hardware around here, i guess my question wasn't diretly kubuntu related then since at first i thought it might be i installed something wrong
[20:57] <ktulu77> jel: killall synaptic or others programs that uses the deb
[20:57] <Dioxin> toens: best thing you can do is try it... if you screw up the windows MBR you can recover it from xp disks
[20:57] <toens> ikonia, it re-iterates that i have a question pending :)
[20:57] <Odd-rationale> toens: BTW, ubuntu uses GRUB by default, not LILO.
[20:57] <ikonia> toens: no - people will answer if they saw the question, if they didn't "anyone" tells them nothing about your question
[20:58] <Dioxin> Traveler4: all hardware is different grab the motherboard manual read it and check to make sure everything is secure
[20:58] <jel> ktulu77: that's a bit optimistic :)  Probably works well for synaptic, but when the command line tools crash and leave locks, they need manual cleaning, afaik
[20:59] <Dioxin> toens: to recover xp if it goes wrong boot from the xp disk, repair install, go to command prompt and enter bootrec /fixmbr
[20:59] <Dioxin> but GRUB should be able to work its magic for a dual boot
[21:00] <Dioxin> anyone know how I can configure display settings from shell? startx fails due to display issues
[21:00] <toens> ok, ta
[21:01] <Odd-rationale> Dioxin: Have you tried reconfiguring your x server?
[21:01] <Dioxin> nope because I dont know how to ... thats my question
[21:01] <Odd-rationale> !xorg
[21:01] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:01] <Odd-rationale> see link
[21:03] <Dioxin> cheers odd-r I'll print it and have a play
[21:04] <Odd-rationale> Dioxin: the exact commands is: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:06] <ObsidianX> hey folks, for some reason, the kde-guidance-powermanager applet is showing that i have two batteries
[21:06] <ObsidianX> yet hal reports that i have one
[21:06] <ObsidianX> as does proc
[21:06] <ObsidianX> any clues?
[21:07] <niall_> yeah
[21:07] <niall_> flash is broken
[21:08] <ObsidianX> niall_: heh, thats... not for me, i assume ;P
[21:08] <niall_> no
[21:08] <ObsidianX> alright ;P
[21:08] <niall_> for everyone who kept telling me it's fine ¬_¬
[21:08] <niall_> you can't even install the package
[21:09]  * Odd-rationale is away: Gone away for now.
[21:09] <niall_> http://pastebin.com/m1171088c
[21:10] <Schuenemann> genii, hey
[21:11] <flithm> hey everyone... does anyone know what the gnome process is that lets java swt apps use native gtk widgets?  When I run a certain java app in gnome it looks great, then when I run in kde it defaults to old-school java look-n-feel stuff.  Anyone got any ideas?
[21:12] <genii> Schuenemann: Hi :)
[21:13] <Schuenemann> genii, still remember that font problem with gtk apps?
[21:14] <genii> Schuenemann: Vaguely
[21:14] <jel> flithm: it's probably an environment variable :)
[21:14] <Schuenemann> genii, oh, well... nothing new about it
[21:15] <flithm> jel: yeah?  any idea which one it might be?
[21:15] <Schuenemann> flithm, when I ran them in the past they were just like KDE's
[21:15] <flithm> Schuenemann: yeah I haven't had an issue till now either
[21:16] <Schuenemann> flithm, what is old school java etc?
[21:16] <jel> Schuenemann: metal, I guess :)
[21:17] <Schuenemann> they are looking like swing?
[21:17] <jel> The one before that was... AWT,right?
[21:17] <flithm> Schuenemann: I forget what it's called, it's the java interface stuff that came before it could use native widgets
[21:18] <Schuenemann> ahh, yes, AWT
[21:18] <jel> flithm: "crap" :D
[21:18] <flithm> jel: haha yeah "crap" sums it up well
[21:23] <flithm> it must be an env var, but which one... maddening I tell yah :)
[21:24] <davies> mockups for the next Kubuntu website are wanted, see: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/WebsiteMockups for more info
[21:24] <wsjunior> sometimes my keyboard stop working and the only way that i found to make it work again is deleting ~/.kde, does anybody know a clean way to solve this?
[21:24] <flithm> jel: I know... I'll diff the output from env!
[21:26] <bugs> Has anyone put together a new distro with kde4 and ubuntu yet?
[21:26] <davies> !kde4 > bugs
[21:26] <flithm> bugs: you know you can install it right?
[21:26] <flithm> bugs: it's buggy as hell though
[21:27] <firecrotch> judging from his nick, I don't think that would bother him =P
[21:28] <jel> kde4 is working pretty well, from trunk.  The kubuntu packages are screwey, that's all.
[21:28] <niall_> I think i'll just wait till 8.04 for KDE4
[21:28] <flithm> jel: oh yeah? that's good to hear
[21:28]  * Arwen reads that KDE4 is like OS X. Probably want to stay away for a while.
[21:30] <Gun_Gun> KDE 4.0 worth looking into?
[21:30] <Strangelet> Gun_Gun: Not yet
[21:30] <Strangelet> Gun_Gun: Still rather buggy
[21:31] <Strangelet> Gun_Gun: Perhaps after the first update comes up
[21:31] <niall_> 4.0.1 is due at the end of the month I think
[21:31] <g2g591> Gun_Gun: wait til the first bugfix release, or perhaps build manually from trunk (see techbase.kde.org, and trunk will become 4.1)
[21:32] <bugs> sorry, had to get my daughter off the bus
[21:32] <niall_> 4.1 is due around July I hear
[21:32] <bugs> really    lots of bugs huh
[21:32] <Gun_Gun> Oh, I've been offline for a while.. And away from ubuntu for a few...
[21:33] <Gun_Gun> Any ideas what release kubuntu is shooting for to include it?
[21:33] <batis610> i have a video problem... with vlc video is played slowly 'picture bu picture'... what's wrong?
[21:34] <davies> Gun_Gun: KDE4
[21:35] <OtO> hello everybody there
[21:35] <Gun_Gun> davies: Yes 4, but which release of kubuntu?
[21:35] <OtO> could someone help me out
[21:35] <davies> Gun_Gun: Hardy?
[21:35] <davies> !ask | OtO
[21:35] <ubotu> OtO: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:35] <OtO> i have problem with my Kubuntu amd 64
[21:36] <OtO> my windows and letters are too big
[21:36] <OtO> sorry for my english
[21:36] <batis610> any help please?
[21:36] <jel> Gun_Gun: the next version of kubuntu will have KDE 4.0.
[21:36] <Gun_Gun> jel: thanks..
[21:37] <OtO> how could i solve my problems please
[21:37] <davies> Gun_Gun: more info: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~jpatrick/minutes/kubuntu-meeting-20071222.pdf
[21:37] <g2g591> OtO: in a konsole, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , then set the right resolution, then hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[21:37] <jel> OtO: How big?
[21:37] <OtO> but the windows ist too big and letters too
[21:37] <OtO> can't read anathing
[21:38] <OtO> anything
[21:38] <jel> OtO: try ctrl-alt-f1, login there, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[21:38] <Gun_Gun> How about is it possible to have one user running KDE and another Gnome, BUT, the gnome user would'nt see the KDE apps and KDE user not seeing gnomes?
[21:38] <g2g591> OtO: then hit ctrl+alt+f1 then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then hit ctrl+alt+f7 then hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[21:38] <OtO> so i can't scroll the windows down to settle
[21:39] <g2g591> OtO: then hit ctrl+alt+f1 then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then hit ctrl+alt+f7 then hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[21:39] <draik> Does anyone here play Uplink?
[21:39] <jel> draik: once or twice
[21:39] <draik> jel: Do you recall the LAN missions?
[21:40] <draik> Sorry, off-topic. I will MSG you, jel
[21:40] <jel> draik: nope.  Played the demo just, sorry
[21:40] <draik> Ok
[21:40] <draik> Thanks
[21:41] <OtO> thanks g2591. i will try it now . now i m on windows xp
[21:41] <OtO> thanks a lot
[21:42] <jel> OtO: if that doesn't fix it, look into disabling bulletproof x, and then do the above again
[21:43] <OtO> thanks also jel
[21:45] <jel> OtO: good luck :)
[21:55] <joe__> I used to have a little icon up near my clock, for my printer que, for some reason I set it not to display there, how can I get that back?
[21:57] <MaskOfSanity> hi
[21:57] <Odd-rationale> joe__: First, do you have the notification applet on the panel?
[21:57] <MaskOfSanity> how can i run a *.run file under kubuntu?
[21:57] <jel> joe__: right-click on the panel and add the applet.  There's also an option in the printer settings, to always show the printer applet you get while printing.
[21:58] <joe__> Odd-rationale: no
[21:58] <Odd-rationale> joe__: Like jel said, you need to tight clivk your panel and add the notification applet.
[21:59] <joe__> SWEET!!!!!!
[21:59] <joe__> jel: Odd-rationale thanx dudes!!!! :D
[21:59] <joe__> I love you guys
[21:59] <sub[t]rnl> MaskOfSanity➜ might want to look inside it to see what its coded in, or if its a binary.
[21:59] <sub[t]rnl> MaskOfSanity➜ try ./filename.run
[22:00] <MaskOfSanity> its the installation file from World of Padman
[22:00] <sub[t]rnl> MaskOfSanity➜ ok, ./filename.run should work then
[22:01] <MaskOfSanity> Ok thank you
[22:01] <Mediapirate> Hi guys how do you emulate Exact Audio Copy in kubuntu?  The drives don't seem to work
[22:01] <Mediapirate> anyone help?
[22:01] <MaskOfSanity> hmm
[22:01] <sub[t]rnl> Mediapirate➜ like, this "k9copy" :)
[22:01] <MaskOfSanity> when i type sudo ./worldofpadnam.run
[22:01] <Mediapirate> ?
[22:01] <sub[t]rnl> Mediapirate➜ i assume your using wine?
[22:01] <Mediapirate> eya
[22:02] <Mediapirate> yea
[22:02] <MaskOfSanity> then the terminal says command not found
[22:02] <sub[t]rnl> Mediapirate➜ check the wine hq website and search for the program to see any tips on getting it to emulate
[22:02] <Mediapirate> thanks
[22:02] <sub[t]rnl> MaskOfSanity➜ make sure your in the same dir as the .run file
[22:03] <MaskOfSanity> its currently on the desktop an i am in this dir with the term
[22:04] <Mediapirate> pm in here sub
[22:04] <Mediapirate> ;-P
[22:04] <Mediapirate> but i guess you know that
[22:04] <sub[t]rnl> MaskOfSanity➜ try "sh worldofpadman.run"
[22:04] <MaskOfSanity> yeah this works
[22:04] <hari> hello
[22:05] <MaskOfSanity> thank you
[22:06] <Odd-rationale> Could someone do me a quick favor? Could you go to http://www.jamendo.com/en/ and let me know whether you can play music off the website? Thanks!
[22:06] <Odd-rationale> * with konqueror
[22:07] <batis610> vlc does't read all subtitles.... how to fix it?
[22:07] <hari> yesterday i bought a 500gb disk and i copied my kubuntu partition on to a 100gb partition on the new drive using gparted but grub boots the old partition how can i make it boot the new partition so that i can delete the old one
[22:08] <Odd-rationale> batis610: You need libdvdcss2 from the !medibuntu repos
[22:08] <jel> Odd-rationale: nope
[22:08] <Odd-rationale> jel: You can't play the music on konqueror?
[22:08] <MaskOfSanity> ok damn it doesn't run
[22:08] <Arwen> batis610, use MPlayer, VLC's subtitle renderer is broken.
[22:09] <hari> can some one please help me?
[22:09] <jel> Odd-rationale: nope.  Probably a flash issue?
[22:09] <jel> Odd-rationale: I'm on amd64, so flash doesn't run well in konqueror
[22:09] <Odd-rationale> jel: I can't either. :( I can play youtube and google vidoes. I use 32 bit, too
[22:10] <batis610> Arwen: subtitles with mplayer are too big... how to change that?
[22:12] <Arwen> batis610, -subfont-osd-scale
[22:12] <Arwen> lower is smaller, default is 6
[22:12] <ScorpKing> hi everyone. i replaced my motherboard and now have eth2. i know somewhere in /etc/ there's a file where i can bind the mac address to eth? but i can't find it. i think it's /etc/iftap but must be mistaken. anyone know where i can change eth2?
[22:13] <sub[t]rnl> hari➜ edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file to boot from the image on your new partition.  You can change the UUID to the UUID of the new partition.
[22:13] <Impiety> i just install kde4 and now aptitude is trying to literally remove every package on my computer.  gdm won't start.  It started with gdm starting, and me trying to load kde4 and gdm would just restart, but then i tried to load gnome once again and then gdm just stopped working
[22:13] <Impiety> suffice it to say everything is messed up
[22:13] <OtO> hello here i m again
[22:13] <sub[t]rnl> hari➜ to find a partitions unique universal identification number, you can use blkid.  example, blkid /dev/sda2
[22:14] <OtO> i didnt get it solved
[22:14] <Odd-rationale> Impiety: Try #kubuntu-kde4
[22:14] <Impiety> Odd-rationale: thanks, I'll try it out
[22:14] <batis610> Arwen: ?
[22:14] <Arwen> yes?
[22:15] <OtO> i ve done like you have describe JEL and g2g591
[22:15] <jel> Impiety: you need to be careful with aptitude, and pay attention to the screen you get that shows what it's about to do.  Sometimes it takes the head-staggers and gets the wrong idea about the best way to upgrade things.  You can manually make sure it's OK, but it's slow and annoying.  apt-get upgrade is easier sometimes.
[22:15] <batis610> Arwen: -subfont-osd-scale... what do that mean?
[22:15] <jel> OtO: including the bullet proof x thing?
[22:15] <Arwen> batis610, it's a parameter that you pass to MPlayer on the command line
[22:15] <Arwen> !terminal
[22:15] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[22:16] <OtO> i dont understand  or i dont now how to do
[22:16] <hari> sub[t]rnl ok i will try that :)
[22:16] <OtO> sorry i m newbie in linux
[22:16] <hola> how is it possibile to create a bridge for virtual machine in order to use also ppp0 interface?
[22:16] <jel> batis610: scale for the on screen display's subtitle fonts.  "mplayer -subfont-osd-scale 0.5 yourfile"   I suppose
[22:17] <OtO> could you explain me how to the bullet proof x, jel?
[22:17] <jel> OtO: I'll look it up again, hold on a sec.
[22:17] <hari> one more question does moving kubuntu to a new partition affect its configurations in any way?
[22:19] <jel> OtO: before I mislead you... are you getting any messages explaining that the screen isn't running at proper resolution?  Bulletproof X would be doing that, I think.
[22:19] <Impiety> ah, sorry about that.  btw, whoever said the thing about aptitude was right, somehow I just typed apt-get upgrade and now it's not retarded
[22:19] <OtO> the resolution is alright is set to 1280x1024 what i like to have
[22:20] <Impiety> how do you switch channel selections in bitchx?
[22:20] <jel> OtO: and it's still too small?
[22:20] <sub[t]rnl> hari➜ might want to take a look at partimage
[22:20] <sub[t]rnl> !info partimage
[22:20] <ubotu> partimage (source: partimage): backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-17 (gutsy), package size 268 kB, installed size 944 kB
[22:20] <hari> ok
[22:20] <artur_> can i delete my own user?  * I don't have root privileges.
[22:21] <OtO> kubuntu is running well but with letters  high as 3cm and the windows is 4 time bigger than my monitor a 19"
[22:21] <x1alpha> is it possible to update an old kubuntu installation of the web ?
[22:21] <jel> artur_: what? :D
[22:21] <jel> artur_: no :)
[22:21] <artur_> jel: ahh ok, i wanted to delete myself...
[22:21] <sub[t]rnl> hari➜ only thing I can think of  off the top of my hand is edit your fstab to reflect your new partition device
[22:21] <jel> artur_: lol... why?
[22:21] <sub[t]rnl> s/hand/head
[22:22] <sub[t]rnl> top of my hand... sheesh..
[22:22] <hari> sub[t]rnl ok but should i edit menu.lst?
[22:22] <Dioxin> guys I'm having a slight problem with xserver .. its not detecting any display whats me next step
[22:22] <sub[t]rnl> hari➜ yup
[22:23] <hari> even if i edit it it will be located in my old partition only then what will happen if i delete the old paratition?
[22:23] <sub[t]rnl> Dioxin➜ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (make a backup of a working /etc/X11/xorg.conf when you get one)
[22:23] <impiety> alright no more bitchx
[22:24] <artur_> jel: cause i'm m job i use to have the root password, but now i forgot it, and i've created 2 users, and one of then is unnecessary now.
[22:24] <Dioxin> didnt work subtrnl
[22:24] <sub[t]rnl> hari➜ grub is install in the mbr of a drive, not a partition
[22:24] <artur_> jel:i've created those 2 users when i used to have the root psswd
[22:25] <jel> artur_: if you don't have the root password and can't recover it, then you're not authorised to mess with accounts.
[22:25] <OtO> jel: the problem is the letters are to big (3cm big) and dialog (windows 4 times bigger than my monitor ) .
[22:25] <OtO>   
[22:26] <hari> ok but menu.lst is on a partition right so whatever changes i make will be lost when i delete that paratition am i thinking right?
[22:26] <jel> OtO: that definitely sounds like your resolution is wrong.  Read /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and see what it says is going wrong.
[22:27] <xerxes1358> Hello
[22:27] <OtO> jel:ok. thanks
[22:27] <nzk> How do I upgrade my kernel?
[22:27] <xerxes1358> What is the best way to install kubuntu through internet
[22:27] <artur_> jel: yes, i'm ,the pc the i'm using is only mine, is not a server, if something wrong happens there only me will affected
[22:27] <jel> nzk: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && reboot :)
[22:28] <jel> artur_: then you can get the root password back, and delete any accounts you don't need.
[22:28] <nzk> I thought it was harder than that.
[22:28] <nzk> Seems too easy.
[22:28] <nzk> Is there a more difficult way to do it?
[22:28] <jel> nzk: welcome to debian-based distros :)
[22:29] <jel> nzk: plenty :D
[22:29] <nzk> I've been using them for a year and a half.
[22:29] <xerxes1358> no one ?
[22:29] <artur_> jel: the problem is that now i'm in another city in vacation, and if i were there i'd use a live cd to recover the psswd, or to change it.
[22:29] <nzk> artur_: You lost your root pass?
[22:29] <nzk> So you have a user with sudo permission?
[22:29] <jel> nzk: you can use aptitude or synaptic or adept to pick the exact kernel.  But it should have linux-image-2.6 picked, which is an alias for the latest 2.6 kernel, and so it auto-upgrades
[22:30] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, what do you mean exactly?
[22:30] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, you'd download the ISO file, burn that on a CD, install it..
[22:30] <xerxes1358> I want to give linux (kubuntu) a try.
[22:30] <jel> artur_: then sip some wine, and fix it when you return ;)
[22:30] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, then you can add LOADS of software through adept manager
[22:30] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, well, download the live CD
[22:30] <xerxes1358> Cant Install this via internet ? I have a 100 mbit line
[22:31] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, you can boot from it and try linux without touching your current installation
[22:31] <artur_> nzk: i'm accessing one account with ssh......... I guess not cause when i use sudo it asks for the root passwd
[22:31] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, well, you install the extra software over the internet yeah
[22:31] <nzk> artur_: What kind of processor does it have?
[22:31] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, you'd need to download *something* to install, not?
[22:31] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, like I said.. try the live CD..
[22:32] <jel> xerxes1358: it'll install the basics from the CD, then you can reboot into kubuntu and update or install many more CDs worth of the latest software.
[22:32] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, you can try it without installing.. if you like it, there is an install option on that live CD that will install kubuntu for you
[22:32] <artur_> nzk: i'm not sure about it, but i think it is AMD
[22:32] <jel> xerxes1358: over the net, I mean
[22:32] <nzk> artur_: I mean is it a relatively fast processor?
[22:32] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, the installer will even be nice enough to move / resize windows partitions to create space to install kubuntu, after which it will place a boot menu to assure you can boot either windows or kubuntu
[22:32] <Ayabara> I'm currently on Gnome, but I think I want to switch to Kde. Last time I tried on my Asus-laptop, I had problems getting my media keys to work. Where can I get help to fix stuff like that?
[22:33] <artur_> i thought about use a exploit...as i have access to the machine as another user...maybe a local exploit
[22:33] <jel> Ayabara: good choice :)
[22:33] <xerxes1358> phoenixz, Ok I am done downloading the ubuntu cd
[22:33] <excitatory> argh.. i don't know what to do anymore.. i have an ati card and want to play games and have a 3d desktop.. with open driver, i cannot play games.. with the old fglrx driver, i have to use xgl, which disables my super key, messes with the math operator buttons on my keyboard, and is full of other quirks.. and with the new catalyst drivers, all of my xgl woes are gone, but i experience random freezing and system lock ups....  do i just
[22:33] <excitatory> go buy a nvidia card, or what?
[22:33] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, any extra software you want to install can be done over the internet without any separate downloading with apt-get or adept manager
[22:33] <nzk> artur_: If it was a fast computer you could brute the root pass.
[22:33] <artur_> nzk: no, it is a very old machine
[22:33] <nzk> Nevermind then.
[22:33] <xerxes1358> phoenixz, wait a sec bro. Just buring cd
[22:33] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, live CD or normal installer? Id definately recommend the first
[22:33] <xerxes1358> brb
[22:33] <artur_> nzk: bruto the root pass? how do i?
[22:34] <nzk> Install a program called "john"
[22:34] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, 100Mbit line huh? :(
[22:34] <nzk> And run 'john /etc/shadow'
[22:34] <xerxes1358> phoenixz, I downloaded from local ftp
[22:34] <Ayabara> jel: I think so too, but for me it has always been easier to get my laptops (dell and asus) up and running with Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu.
[22:34] <nzk> It'll take a few days, maybe weeks, maybe years.
[22:34] <xerxes1358> not sure checking right now
[22:34] <xerxes1358> phoenixz,
[22:34] <sub[t]rnl> nzk➜ keep that stuff in pm's please
[22:34] <artur_> nzk:so this john will brute the psswd
[22:34] <batis610> vlc still running i can hear song and i see no window... how to stop it
[22:34] <nzk> Alright. Off to PM!
[22:35] <xerxes1358> phoenixz, its says ubuntu 7.10
[22:35] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, it should say something "live"
[22:35] <jel> Ayabara: that's more of a distro thing, I suppose... Kubuntu isn't focused on quite as much as Ubuntu, and so GNOME auto-configures a bit more.  But it's not to say that GNOME itself is better than KDE.  I'd say quite the opposite.
[22:36] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, where are you located?
[22:36] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, so that I can send you a correct link..
[22:36] <xerxes1358> phoenixz, amsterdam
[22:36] <xerxes1358> phoenixz, http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ubuntunj6.jpg
[22:36] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, ah, dutch too :P
[22:36] <phoenixz> could have known... 100Mb...
[22:36] <xerxes1358> he he
[22:37] <xerxes1358> Hallo daar
[22:37] <xerxes1358> where are you located ?
[22:37] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, Leon, Guanajuato :P
[22:37] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, I'll fetch ya a good link
[22:38] <xerxes1358> dankje sven
[22:38] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, ah, its no longer "live" its called "desktop" these days
[22:38] <xerxes1358> he he
[22:38] <ScorpKing> !ot
[22:38] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[22:38] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, keep it english please
[22:38] <xerxes1358> does that come with the new KDE 4 ?
[22:38] <ScorpKing> xerxes1358: hallo en welkom.
[22:38] <xerxes1358> hi there :) too
[22:38] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, yeah, you have to add an extra repository (like a remote database where you install softwware from) to use it
[22:39] <Ayabara> jel: I think I agree, but things like the media keys, it's not really self-explaining how to fix a problem like that. and googling hasn't gotten me anywhere, since I can't find other users with my laptop model
[22:39] <xerxes1358> so
[22:39] <Ayabara> soon giving it a new try though :-)
[22:39] <xerxes1358> phoenixz, I cant use this cd to install ?
[22:39] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, but, I would recommend against using it as your desktop for the moment.. its REALLY promissing and in like 2 more months it will kick ass but for now, its not stable enough
[22:39] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, yeah, you can use any CD.. its just that the live CD\s are a bit easier
[22:39] <ObsidianX> hey folks, for some reason, the kde-guidance-powermanager applet is showing that i have two batteries... and as such doesn't ever know when im low or out of battery
[22:39] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/
[22:40] <xerxes1358> phoenixz, Its a waste of cds
[22:40] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, take one that says "desktop"
[22:40] <xerxes1358> I prefer using this one if it is possible and too difficultg
[22:40] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, and depending on what you have, i386 or amd
[22:40] <xerxes1358> -g
[22:40] <xerxes1358> i386
[22:40] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, already burnt it?
[22:40] <xerxes1358> Yes
[22:40] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, I'm not stopping you :) its NOT difficult at all..
[22:40] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, its more like.. easy or easier
[22:40] <xerxes1358> Ok so what do I do?
[22:41] <xerxes1358> start cd
[22:41] <impiety> grr...no one in kubuntu-kde4 is responding
[22:41] <phoenixz> Just toss in the CD and boot from the CD drive
[22:41] <phoenixz> impiety, sh*thappens..
[22:41] <impiety> phoenixz, yes indeed, i'm just impatient because this is pissing me off
[22:42] <Ayabara> anyway, is this the channel to visit if I need help getting media keys on a laptop working on Kubuntu/KDE? it's a distro-thing that they do not work out of the box, right?
[22:42] <impiety> oh well, i'll just keep trying and trying and figure it out
[22:42] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, desktop CD's can run without installing.. thats like the "easier" part on it, and the installer is graphical.. IIRC, the normal installer is textmode (not sure though)
[22:42] <phoenixz> impiety, *what* is your problem?
[22:42] <phoenixz> impiety, meant as in, what is your question?
[22:42] <xerxes1358> phoenixz, ok you know what. Let me just boot the cd and see what happens
[22:42] <phoenixz> impiety, if you need an answer it usually helps when you ask your question...
[22:42] <xerxes1358> phoenixz, stick around though I may be needing more help brb (I hope :) )
[22:43] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, with any problem, I'd recommend the desktop CD.. :) in any case, you can always return here for assistance
[22:43] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, I'll be here, but since I got a datacenter job, I might be away from time to time
[22:44] <impiety> phoenixz, I was told to go to the kde4 channel.  but, okay.  I installed kde4, and when I try to start it it restarts X.  Gnome is restarting X too, I ran failsafe gnome and that works.  Also aptitude appears to be trying to remove everything if i use it to upgrade
[22:44] <impiety> apt on the other hand does not
[22:44] <ionus> help me
[22:44] <phoenixz> ionus, with what?
[22:44] <ionus> libpython2.5.so
[22:45] <phoenixz> impiety, again, WHAT is your problem?
[22:45] <phoenixz> impiety, Im trying to help you here but you're not helping yourself like this..
[22:45] <ionus> i cant go in display setings
[22:45] <impiety> kde4 won't start
[22:45] <motanel> would it be a good idea to set an automatic schedule for apt-get update + apt-get upgrade ?
[22:45] <impiety> it just restarts X
[22:45] <ionus> yes
[22:45] <dsmith> kde4 = beta
[22:45] <Ayabara> are there any disadvantages to having both kde and gnome installed? other than that I get a lot of packages installed
[22:45] <hydrogen> motanel: I'd suggest not
[22:46] <phoenixz> impiety, ahah.. got that one before
[22:46] <hydrogen> motanel: you should be aware of what is being updated and installed
[22:46] <dsmith> use "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"
[22:46] <hydrogen> just in case anything goes wrong
[22:46] <phoenixz> !aptfix | impiety
[22:46] <ubotu> impiety: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:46] <dsmith> but becareful updating things
[22:46] <hydrogen> you will have a good idea of where to start
[22:46] <motanel> oh, good point, thanks, hydrogen
[22:46] <dsmith> yep, agree hydrogen
[22:46] <phoenixz> ionus, why nont? you cant find the program? the program crashes?
[22:46] <motanel> well, kubuntu, i'm happy to say that i finally found a distro that fits me
[22:46] <phoenixz> impiety, got that one?
[22:47] <motanel> and i can run mirc with wine :P
[22:47] <impiety> yeah
[22:47] <phoenixz> motanel, and which one would that be? :P
[22:47] <dsmith> mot
[22:47] <ionus> i cant go to display setings
[22:47] <impiety> thanks, i'll try it
[22:47] <phoenixz> motanel, mirc? argh..
[22:47] <dsmith> motanel: what size are you using :P
[22:47] <phoenixz> ionus, but why exactly not? you can not find it in the menu or something?
[22:47] <dsmith> mirc? ewwwww
[22:47] <phoenixz> impiety, you're welcome..
[22:47] <ionus> library files for  "libpython2.5.so" not found in patch
[22:48] <phoenixz> impiety, when that one is finished, you can try again.. apt-get is a great utility.. I figure you were using adept-manager when you got this problem? adept is also great but.. a bit instable still
[22:48] <jel> Ayabara: as far as I know, you just install kmilo, and set it up in the system settings.  Might need to make sure your keyboard type is set right in X first.
[22:48] <impiety> phoenixz, i was using aptitude
[22:48] <phoenixz> ionus, thats an error you get?
[22:48] <ionus> library files for  "libpython2.5.so" not found in patch
[22:48] <jel> KDE 4 is really nice :)  Kopete finally recognises my webcam too :)
[22:49] <Ayabara> jel: I'll try it out, but I doubt it's the last time you see me here ;-)
[22:49] <phoenixz> impiety, yeah, adept can cause problems like this every now and then and even kill off X.. its anoying but.. shit sometimes happens.. The fix was there (use !aptfix in here if you ever need it again)
[22:49] <jel> :)
[22:49] <impiety> does gdm and kde4 not work together
[22:49] <ionus> during your las kde upgrade an orphaned control module
[22:49] <phoenixz> impiety, gdm is gnome.. kde4 is kde4..
[22:49]  * jel prefers the "use synaptic" or "use aptitude" fixes :)
[22:49] <motanel> dsmith: what do you mean what size?
[22:49] <impiety> well, i know, but i hate kdm, it's ugly
[22:49] <phoenixz> ionus, sounds like your install is damaged somehow
[22:50] <impiety> and gdm shows kde4 in it's choices, but it just restarts, ohw ell, i'll try kdm
[22:50] <unix_infidel>  5/quit
[22:50] <jel> impiety: it has themes, just like gdm
[22:50] <phoenixz> ionus, look for that EXACT error on google if there is any solution available on the internet
[22:50] <ionus> ok
[22:50] <impiety> yeah, but it's different.  I just really like gdm...I don't really know why, oh well, i'm installing kdm
[22:50] <phoenixz> impiety, they should work well together
[22:50] <phoenixz> impiety, window manager religion.. :P
[22:50] <impiety> yeah
[22:52] <impiety> hum gnome doesn't load either.  it must have something to do with the startup scripts
[22:52] <impiety> weird
[22:53] <Ayabara> should I use gdm or kdm if I have both gnome and kde?
[22:54] <jel> Ayabara: doesn't matter really.  Loading GDM for a KDE session (and vice versa) will use more memory, so choose the display manager matching whichever desktop you'll use most
[22:54] <phoenixz> impiety, you mean that kde nor gnome is starting up?
[22:55] <phoenixz> impiety, what jel says here above!
[22:55] <jel> impiety: check your ~/.xsession-errors.  I ended up just hacking my Xsession to run startkde :)
[22:55] <impiety> phoenixz, yeah, I know...I can't find where kdm-kde4 was installed so I can use it as the default
[22:55] <impiety> oooo
[22:55] <impiety> jel: thanks
[22:56] <Dioxin> guys I'm having a problem with Xserver... it wont find any screens... nor my display device, I've tried the autodetect and settings wizards, whats the next step?
[22:56] <impiety> ohhh
[22:56] <impiety> it's gtk
[22:57] <xerxes1358> Hello again
[22:57] <xerxes1358> phoenixz: back :)
[22:57] <impiety> jel: how do i hack Xsession to dothat?
[22:57] <tyson_> the desktop is bigger than the screen, and when i move the mouse to the edge of the screen, the desktop scrolls. how can i stop that?
[22:58] <tyson_> ...btw, is this the n00b channel for folks like me? :)
[22:58] <sourcemaker> sure
[22:59] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, and?
[22:59] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, any problems?
[22:59] <articpenguin3800> is it worth going to 64bit
[22:59] <xerxes1358> phoenixz: I am in a livesession
[22:59] <phoenixz> tyson_, you tell me..
[22:59] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, so you did get the live CD? :)
[22:59] <sub[t]rnl> tyson_➜ you need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and remove the Virtual line from it.
[23:00] <tyson_> thanks mate
[23:00] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, in that case, you enjoy how a real operating system should be installed.. you install while you are chatting on IRC and check your mail ;)
[23:00] <xerxes1358> phoenixz: and drink coffee
[23:00] <phoenixz> sub[t]rnl, isnt that like the "hard way" to do that"
[23:00] <xerxes1358> :D
[23:00] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, better be quick about it, the install is that too.. :P
[23:00] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, just one hint
[23:00] <sub[t]rnl> phoenixz➜ not sure how it could get easier
[23:01] <phoenixz> sub[t]rnl, modifying your xorg.conf file easy???
[23:01] <sub[t]rnl> editing a linux config file?
[23:01] <sub[t]rnl> heh, that should be common place
[23:01] <articpenguin3800> !64bit
[23:01] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[23:01] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, when you do the install, there is an option somewhere (I belive its an advanced option) that will check some remote repositories.. make sure its NOT checked, or your install might hang for like 5 minutes if the servers are not available (happens quite often).. its not a big problem, more an anoyance
[23:02] <phoenixz> sub[t]rnl, for you and me yeah.. not for the grass green noobs.. there should also be a GUI thing where they can do that
[23:03] <xerxes1358> phoenixz: do you know how to install metacity ?
[23:04] <sub[t]rnl> metacity is the window manager for gnome
[23:04] <sub[t]rnl> phoenixz➜ seemed easy enough for him didn't it?
[23:05] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, one sec please, on phone
[23:05] <ionus> help me
[23:06] <ionus> i cant see display setings in control menu
[23:06] <xerxes1358> sure
[23:06] <ionus> !display
[23:06] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[23:06] <phoenixz> sub[t]rnl, okay, but that was not the point.. :) What if it would have been my mom?  I can not even imagine here checking the xorg.conf
[23:06] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, metacity.. I think thats gnome, is it not?
[23:06] <xerxes1358> Yes it is
[23:07] <xerxes1358> my title bars look huge
[23:07] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, youre using KDE now.. you don't need metacity..
[23:07] <xerxes1358> maybe it is not relevant since I will install KDE 4 anyways
[23:07] <xerxes1358> I am using gnome
[23:07] <xerxes1358> phoenixz: the live cd uses gnome
[23:07] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, I would wait with the KDE4 thing for a minute... or a month :
[23:07] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, ah, okay.. well, first thing to decide is.. you want gnome or kde
[23:08] <xerxes1358> kde 5
[23:08] <xerxes1358> :D
[23:08] <xerxes1358> kde 4
[23:08] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, I'd recommend KDE if you're a bit an advanced user.. if youre a noob, maybe gnome is better
[23:08] <xerxes1358> lets go gnome
[23:08] <xerxes1358> no no
[23:08] <xerxes1358> KDE is fine
[23:08] <xerxes1358> argg
[23:08] <xerxes1358> KDE :)
[23:08] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, and KDE4 is released but far from stable.. its nice to play with but don't use it as your production system just yet
[23:08] <ionus> how to put all default setings ?
[23:08] <xerxes1358> phoenixz: exactly how unstable is it?
[23:09] <ionus> !default
[23:09] <Odd-rationale> ionus: Reinstall ;)
[23:09] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[23:09] <ionus> :(
[23:09] <sub[t]rnl> ionus➜ mv .kde/ .kde-old
[23:09] <Odd-rationale> ionus: JK. Exactly waht do you want to do?
[23:09] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, 10 crashes or problems in 5 minutes unstable.. Depends ofcourse on your computer, what graphics card and driver youre using, etc...
[23:10] <ionus> how to put all default setings in system setings
[23:10] <phoenixz> Odd-rationale, what sub[t]rnl say's.. :)
[23:10] <Odd-rationale> ionus: did you mess up something?
[23:10] <ionus> what?
[23:10] <Odd-rationale> phoenixz: sub[t]rnl like reintalls?
[23:11]  * hydrogen hasn't had a crash in kde4 in weeks
[23:11] <xerxes1358> phoenixz: how about installing both and check them out ?
[23:11] <phoenixz> Odd-rationale, no, you don't need to reinstall, just move the .kde directory back..
[23:11] <phoenixz> xerxes1358, sure, why not? you got linux, you got choice if you want.. :P
[23:12] <Odd-rationale> ionus: What is wrong with your current install? Why do you need/want to reset every thing?
[23:13] <ionus> becose i cant see dysplay setings & more in system setings
[23:13] <Odd-rationale> phoenixz: Yes, that might help.
[23:13] <jel> hydrogen: I think my global shortcut keys crashed today.  But yes, generally, it's suprisingly complete :)
[23:13] <ionus> how to put it back
[23:13] <ionus> ?
[23:14] <ionus> Odd-rationale how to put it back
[23:14] <jel> ionus: they should be there, unless you've uninstalled packages that contain them?
[23:14] <wad> Hi, folks. Okay, I've got a few minutes to try and solve my sound woes today... Has anyone ever seen a situation where a computer (Thinkpad T61 in this case) doesn't work properly with the volume control wossname on the screen?
[23:15] <ionus> yes but how tu install pkg back
[23:15] <crimsun> wad: sure.
[23:15] <crimsun> wad: it's resolved in the latest code.
[23:15] <wad> crimsun: Great! Did you solve the problem?
[23:15] <jel> "doesn't work properly"?
[23:15] <Odd-rationale> ionus: You can try what sub[t]rnl suggested.
[23:15] <Odd-rationale> Then logout and back in
[23:15] <wad> The volume control doesn't do anything whatsoever to change the sound volume.
[23:15] <wad> crimsun, so it's a known issue. Is there a bug number, sort of thing?
[23:16] <wad> I just did an "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" but it didn't find anything new.
[23:16] <ionus> witch pkg i need to install
[23:16]  * wad is new to Kubuntu
[23:16] <crimsun> wad: various.  Did you install linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r) ?
[23:16] <wad> Nope.
[23:17] <jel> ionus: try just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:17] <wad> Should I?
[23:17] <crimsun> wad: yes.
[23:17] <wad> ok
[23:17] <ionus> jel ok
[23:17] <Ayabara> jel: then I'm in kubuntu :-), could you repeat what you said about kmilo and stuff?
[23:17] <wad> What does that do, by the way?
[23:17] <Ayabara> my media keys still don't work
[23:17] <Odd-rationale> ionus: try moving your ~/.kde folder somewhere else ( like the trash bin so you can restore it if nesc.
[23:17] <Odd-rationale> then logou.
[23:17] <Odd-rationale> t
[23:17] <ionus> ok
[23:18] <powerpleb> hey guys... I'm running Kubuntu 7.1 and in Adept Manager I just installed the ubuntu-desktop package... will this now mean I can choose to run GNOME at login... or have I screwed up my install?
[23:18] <Odd-rationale> If that doesn't work, then you might have uninstalled something.
[23:18] <impiety> umm
[23:18] <impiety> powerpleb: you have to install gnome, not just ubuntu-desktop
[23:19] <jel> Ayabara: OK, first of all, make sure your keyboard's normal keys are all doing what they should -- apostophe keys and hash keys and money symbols all type the right thing, etc.  make sure kmilo is installed.  Go to the system settings, and you'll find options for configuring the keys.  You should be able to just choose functions, and press the keys you want them to be attached to.  It's been a while since I looked at kmilo, so I can't remember exactly.
[23:19] <impiety> unless gnoem was a dependency
[23:19] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu-desktop will install gnome
[23:19] <darkstar> Any Kubuntu users out there?
[23:20] <wad> crimsun, "apt-cache show linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic" tells me "You likely do not want to install this package directly. Instead, install the linux-generic meta-package, which will ensure that upgrades work correctly, and that supporting packages are also installed." I think I'll do that instead.... what do you think?
[23:20] <jel> powerpleb: it should leave both on your system.
[23:20] <powerpleb> it looks as though it's installing gnome because in the mightu list of program being downloaded are a lot of gnome apps and libs
[23:20] <powerpleb> cheers that's what i want
[23:20] <impiety> powerpleb: then it shoudl work fine
[23:20] <wad> darkstar: I am!
[23:20] <crimsun> wad: however you want to get that package installed is fine.
[23:21] <ionus> ok now i see all in sys setings but i cant change something
[23:21] <wad> Okay, cool. Thanks!
[23:21] <tyson_> does anyone here run kubuntu on a hp laptop?
[23:21] <level1> !grubfix
[23:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grubfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:21] <level1> !grub
[23:21] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:22] <ionus> the problem is in libpython2.5.so not found in paths
[23:22] <wad> Oh, heh: "linux-generic is already the newest version."
[23:22] <ionus> library files for libpython2.5.so not found in paths
[23:23] <level1> Hi, I installed ubuntu and now I want to install window (I know I should have done it the other way around, but I didn't have a choice.)  What I'm concerned about is that my root is on a linux software raid 1 partition.  Does this complicate things?
[23:23] <ionus> someone help me
[23:23] <Ayabara> jel: do you mean in Regional & Language -> System Settings?
[23:25] <Odd-rationale> ionus: When do you get this error? when you start system settings?
[23:25] <jel> Ayabara: no, it's more like keyboard and mouse or something like that.
[23:26] <ionus> then i go tu display setings
[23:26] <ionus> then i go to display setings
[23:27] <ionus> Odd-rationale u now how to corect this?
[23:27] <Ayabara> jel: ok. I'm having trouble finding it :-/
[23:27] <Odd-rationale> ionus: Do you mean "Monitor and Display"?
[23:28] <ionus> yes
[23:28] <ionus> also i cant acces disk &filesystems and win aplications
[23:29] <ionus> Odd-rationale !
[23:29] <Odd-rationale> ionus: One moment...
[23:29] <ionus> Odd-rationale k
[23:30] <Odd-rationale> ionus: Same error message?
[23:30] <ionus> Odd-rationale library files for libpython2.5.so not found in paths
[23:31] <ionus> error occurred during your last kde upgrade leaving an orphaned control module
[23:32] <impiety> ionus, try sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1.0  /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so
[23:33] <ionus> ok
[23:33] <ionus> no no work
[23:33] <impiety> hum
[23:33] <Mediapirate> does anyone know the command like for grip?
[23:33] <Mediapirate> for the encoder?
[23:33] <Mediapirate> v0 prefferably?
[23:33] <impiety> is libpython in /usr/lib/ ?
[23:35] <console_jockey> I've just followed the procedure for installing medibuntu but when I execute apt-get update I get error 301 when accessing the medibuntu repos.  Is this a known issue?
[23:35] <hola> how is it possibile to share a ppp0 interface between two a pc and a virtual machine?
[23:35] <ionus> no
[23:36] <impiety> ionus,  are you responding to me?
[23:36] <ionus> impiety no
[23:36] <ionus> yes
[23:36] <impiety> ah
[23:36] <ionus> to you
[23:36] <impiety> hrm
[23:36] <ionus> where is no libpython
[23:36] <impiety> weird
[23:36] <console_jockey> anyone seen this error when running apt-get update: Err http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy/free Packages  301 Moved Permanently [IP: 88.191.30.43 80]
[23:36] <Odd-rationale> ionus: Do you have python2.5-dev installed?
[23:36] <wsjunior> is there a way to use real transparency in konsole?
[23:37] <ionus> no
[23:37] <ScorpKing> hola: i want to do the same thing on my box. ;)
[23:37] <impiety> then install it
[23:37] <ionus> wait
[23:37] <Dr_willis> wsjunior,  use compiz is one way.
[23:37] <impiety> wel, just do it when you can
[23:37] <impiety> hopefully that fixes your problem
[23:38] <hola> ScorpKing: using NAT it works but im not able to use ssh
[23:38] <ionus> instaling...
[23:38] <Odd-rationale> ionus: Also see if you have python2.5 installed.
[23:38] <ScorpKing> hola: maybe a bridge connection will work better. i haven't tried it yet though
[23:39] <ionus> ok now i have
[23:39] <wsjunior> Dr_willis: is konsole --real-transparency supposed to work?
[23:39] <hola> ScorpKing: using a bridge im able to use ssh but i'm not able to share a internet connection
[23:39] <impiety> well, if it doesn't work and you have all the python stuff working, reboot
[23:39] <impiety> well, installed
[23:40] <juan> hola
[23:40] <Odd-rationale> impiety: Yeah, that always works. Usually the first thing I try! (everyone else thinks I'm a genious)
[23:40] <console_jockey> I'm getting a certificate error when access www.medibuntu.org.  Anyone know if there is an issue with medibuntu?  I wonder is the sites been hacked...
[23:41] <ScorpKing> hola: i'll let you know if i figure it out or find any usefull info. :)
[23:41] <juan> ¿Este canal es en español o en ingles? es la primera vez que entro aqui
[23:41] <ScorpKing> !es
[23:41] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:41] <hola> ScorpKing: now or next time?
[23:41] <Timmmm> hey, does anyone know of a multiplatform multiplayer (ie over the internet) tetris (maybe java)?
[23:41] <juan> #kubuntu.es
[23:42] <ScorpKing> hola: next time. it's bedtime for me.
[23:42] <Dr_willis> wsjunior,  no idea. Compiz allows you to set transparencys on any window.  Personally i find transparccy a useless feature
[23:42] <ScorpKing> juan: /j #kubuntu.es
[23:42] <hola> ScorpKing: im italian and you
[23:42] <juan> Help me, please: I need to go to #kubuntu.es
[23:42] <ScorpKing> hola: afrikaans
[23:42] <Dr_willis> wsjunior,  it may be that option needs some special X features enabled.
[23:43] <Odd-rationale> console_jockey: Do you need to add the repo?
[23:43] <juan> how is the way?
[23:43] <Odd-rationale> missed him...
[23:43] <ScorpKing> juan: type /j #kubuntu.es
[23:43] <juan> ok, thanks
[23:43] <Dioxin>  #kubuntu.es does not exist
[23:43] <ScorpKing> nite guys
[23:43] <ScorpKing> ah yes
[23:43] <ScorpKing> juan: type /j #kubuntu-es
[23:44] <ScorpKing> hehe. nite
[23:45] <Dioxin> juan not many peeps in #kubuntu.es ...
[23:45] <juan> For Juan is the first time in this system
[23:46] <juan> and Juan have not idea of all this
[23:47] <Ayabara> Anyone with an asus laptop with media keys here? I'm trying to make mine work.
[23:47] <Dioxin> and juan should perhaps not talk in 3rd person
[23:48] <juan> why?
[23:48] <Dioxin> just sounds odd
[23:48] <tyson_> can anyone recommend a good web development ide for linux?
[23:49] <Odd-rationale> tyson_: Quanta plus
[23:49] <Odd-rationale> tyson_: Or nvu
[23:49] <Dioxin> anyone mind telling me how to sort out display devices for xserver? autodetect wizard failed
[23:50] <tyson_> thanks chief
[23:50] <Odd-rationale> BTW it is #kubuntu-es
[23:52] <Ayabara> Can anyone help me setup the media keys on my laptop. Sorry for asking again, but I had to restart irc :-)
[23:52] <Dioxin> doesnt your irc keep the log?
[23:53] <Ayabara> Dioxin: not of answers that may have come while I restarted :-)
[23:53] <Dioxin> ahh
[23:54] <Ayabara> I was told I could easily configure this in system settings, but I can't find the place
[23:55] <Dioxin> isnt it in somethign simple like keyboard settings?
[23:55] <Dioxin> where you just macro key bindings and stuff?
[23:55] <Dioxin> I cant have a look for you cos I'm on vista and cant get my xserver running :-(
[23:56] <Ayabara> Dioxin: I can't find it. Thanks anyway
[23:58] <Ayabara> Anyone else who can point me in the right direction?
[23:59] <Dioxin> ayabara thought of doing a google search for your laptop model and unix?