| Laibsch | Hi | 01:19 |
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| Laibsch | Does a ppa publish the information necessary for users to trust the published packages? | 01:19 |
| Laibsch | I tried with my own ppa (apt-key add), but the files are still shown as being from an untrusted source | 01:19 |
| RAOF | No, it doesn't. This is planned. | 01:20 |
| Laibsch | Nice | 01:24 |
| jamesh | I'd be a bit worried if running apt-key add on my public key was enough to make the PPA trusted ... | 01:38 |
| Hobbsee | jamesh: that requires a clue about gpg keys, instead of a mere wish to get rid of scary warnings. | 01:39 |
| gryc | why is that jamesh? | 01:39 |
| jamesh | gryc: since I haven't signed the binaries in my PPA, it would mean that someone else has access to my private key | 01:40 |
| gryc | ohhhhhh | 01:40 |
| * gryc forgot the binaries were built on other servers | 01:40 | |
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| poolie | wow, after the thread before i just noticed the pencil next to 'bug description' | 04:38 |
| poolie | it have never registered before | 04:38 |
| poolie | you should update the copyright :) | 04:43 |
| AaronSw | I'm getting consistent crashes when I try to edit a milestone. This is blocking my work. | 05:04 |
| Odd_Bloke | AaronSw: Do you mean you're getting an OOPS? If so, having its ID is helpful for the LP admins. | 05:05 |
| AaronSw | https://launchpad.net/openlibrary/+milestone/opencoverthing/+edit leads to OOPS-755E531 | 05:05 |
| ubotu | https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/755E531 | 05:05 |
| poolie | hm should ubotu be posting that here, it's not very helpful | 05:06 |
| poolie | oh well | 05:06 |
| poolie | AaronSw, i think i was getting something similar | 05:06 |
| AaronSw | It's so consistent it seems like it must be something simple. | 05:07 |
| AaronSw | Or at least obvious. | 05:07 |
| poolie | AaronSw, is it an AttributeError? | 05:07 |
| AaronSw | I don't know; I don't have access to the tracebacks | 05:07 |
| poolie | i get that on milestone- | 05:07 |
| poolie | oh | 05:07 |
| poolie | yes it's bug 185732, marked critical, hopefully will be fixed soon | 05:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 185732 in launchpad "+edit milestone page is broken when the date is set" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185732 | 05:09 |
| poolie | hello Odd_Bloke | 05:10 |
| Odd_Bloke | poolie: Hey. :) | 05:10 |
| Syntux | I'm trying to login to Ubuntu wiki using same credentials of my launchpad account but aint working, I have also tried to reset my password (as suggested in the wiki) but it didnt work even with the new password. | 06:49 |
| Syntux | argh, ok | 06:51 |
| Syntux | worked | 06:51 |
| ubotu | New bug: #185841 in rosetta "PO parser: string index out of range" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185841 | 07:56 |
| Aloha | whats the point of having a PPA if you can just distribute the .deb file? | 08:02 |
| Aloha | or is it if you have dependencies that only your PPA has? | 08:03 |
| jamesh | Aloha: do you have the infrastructure set up to build dapper, edgy, feisty, gutsy and hardy packages on i386, amd64 and lpia? | 08:20 |
| Aloha | oh good point. will hardy packages work on gutsy? | 08:22 |
| jamesh | depends | 08:22 |
| Aloha | on what category of things? | 08:22 |
| jamesh | on whether something the package depends on differs between gutsy and hardy | 08:23 |
| jamesh | (I can't really be any more specific than that) | 08:23 |
| Aloha | gotcha | 08:23 |
| Aloha | so if i need lib-foobar-1.17 which is hardy but i have a gutsy install which has lib-foobar-1.16 then its probably best to use gutsy package | 08:25 |
| carlos | morning | 08:26 |
| Aloha | carlos, morning | 08:26 |
| jamesh | or you could build a lib-foobar-1.17 package for gutsy in your PPA (be careful about what version numbers you pick though, so you don't screw up upgrades to hardy) | 08:26 |
| Aloha | gotcha | 08:29 |
| jamesh | Aloha: of course, it isn't too difficult to submit both gutsy and hardy builds of a package | 08:29 |
| Aloha | jamesh, can i have ppa build them with a single source package or do i need one for each? | 08:30 |
| jamesh | Aloha: for some packages, if you build against libfoobar-1.17 the binary would depend on that version, while it is still possible to compile with older versions | 08:30 |
| jamesh | since PPA builds the package in the associated environment, the resulting binary should be appropriate for the target distribution release | 08:31 |
| jamesh | Aloha: you need to request separate builds for separate distro releases | 08:31 |
| Aloha | jamesh, thnx | 08:32 |
| jamesh | Aloha: it will build on all supported architectures though. | 08:32 |
| Aloha | what do karma points do? | 08:44 |
| Aloha | ooh sweet can delete packages now | 09:00 |
| Aloha | i remember when you couldn't do that. makes me feel oldschool heh | 09:00 |
| Aloha | like 2 days oldschool ;) | 09:00 |
| Kmos | cprov: the delete packages on PPA, won't remove logs too ? | 09:08 |
| ubotu | New bug: #185851 in malone "Link "find out why" doesn't really help you to" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185851 | 09:11 |
| ubotu | New bug: #185853 in malone "Please link bug field labels to extended explanations" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185853 | 09:16 |
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| Aloha | whats MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive | 09:33 |
| Aloha | Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification | 09:33 |
| ubotu | New bug: #185856 in malone "Upper right search box unuseful" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185856 | 09:40 |
| ubotu | New bug: #185861 in launchpad-bazaar "bzr register-branch command broken?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185861 | 10:20 |
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| lifeless | howoften do branch feeds update ? | 11:50 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #185897 in launchpad "Bug reporting instuctions need humanising" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185897 | 12:11 |
| ubotu | New bug: #185901 in malone "using bugtracker for communication instead of mailing lists" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185901 | 12:20 |
| ubotu | New bug: #185905 in malone "Getting Bug Lists By Email spec needs drafting" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185905 | 12:25 |
| eyalev | Hello, I saw Ubuntu Hardy Translations is now open. Someone in my translations team said that we should wait for the 4th ALPHA release before we start translate. I This correct? | 12:30 |
| Ubulette | lucas, just read your last blog entry about dpkg-dev’s core tools. Interesting. Is the table for sid, hardy or what ? | 13:18 |
| lucas | sid | 13:19 |
| lucas | but it shouldn't differ much in hardy | 13:19 |
| Ubulette | i'm curious to see the trend (dapper->f->g->hardy). is that possible to do ? | 13:22 |
| ubotu | New bug: #185922 in soyuz "Re-POSTing a form to +delete-packages results in a oops " [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185922 | 13:31 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #185925 in rosetta "Extract file format-specific code from translation import queue" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185925 | 13:55 |
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| slytherin | Hi, firebug shows me some kind of security error on launchpad home. Should I report a bug for this? | 14:18 |
| Kmos | slytherin: what it says? | 14:22 |
| kiko | slytherin, can you /privmsg me? | 14:23 |
| Kmos | that's better :) | 14:23 |
| slytherin | kiko: sure | 14:23 |
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| Kaleo | hello everyone | 15:13 |
| Kaleo | does anybody know how to change the source of a bazaar branch for a specific project? | 15:14 |
| Kaleo | it's a branch for which the source is a Subversion repository | 15:14 |
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| jpatrick | hello, could an admin please look at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/22795 ? | 15:17 |
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| kai^sds | Hi, I have just tried to create a ubuntu bug report by double clicking on a file in /var/crash. the launchpad report bug page opens, but when I click on continue (below the bug subject line) I get a page telling me: | 15:38 |
| kai^sds | Not allowed here | 15:38 |
| kai^sds | Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. You are logged in as Kai Schroeder. | 15:38 |
| kai^sds | URL for that page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emerald/+filebug/A8rYNBsA5LGR2OfvrSaQcIf7C5X | 15:38 |
| kai^sds | Any idea, why? | 15:38 |
| ubotu | New bug: #185953 in soyuz "Feature request: add pagination to list of packages to delete" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185953 | 15:55 |
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| rkerr | Rinchen: ping | 18:21 |
| Rinchen | rkerr, Hi there! | 18:22 |
| Rinchen | rkerr, I'm on the phone but would love to chat with you in a few minutes | 18:22 |
| rkerr | Rinchen, ok let me know when you've got time | 18:22 |
| PibbRelay | <Rinchen> Hello Elliot | 18:40 |
| statik | hi Rinchen and PibbRelay | 18:41 |
| Rinchen | rkerr, ok you're up :-) | 18:44 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #186002 in rosetta ""Download translations" pages for language/package are inconsistent" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186002 | 19:10 |
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| glatzor | danilos: hello. will newly added gutsy translation automatically added to hardy too? | 19:21 |
| psusi | if a bug is assigned to the wrong package, how can I reassign it so it's new and not targeted at a specific package? so it's still waiting triaging to the right package? | 19:34 |
| geser | psusi: have you tried to leave the package name empty? | 19:35 |
| psusi | no, the bug already exists, it was assigned to a package I maintain | 19:35 |
| psusi | but has nothing to do with it | 19:35 |
| psusi | so I marked it as invalid and now want to add a target to the bug so it's just assigned to Ubuntu in general, with unknown package hint | 19:36 |
| psusi | like the person had left the field blank to begin with | 19:36 |
| geser | psusi: have you tried to edit the package name? | 19:37 |
| geser | which bug btw? | 19:37 |
| psusi | ahh, t here we go :) | 19:37 |
| psusi | figured it out.. hehe | 19:37 |
| psusi | 183930 | 19:38 |
| Rinchen | carlos, danilos - either of you around? | 19:41 |
| carlos | Rinchen: I am | 19:41 |
| Rinchen | I need some education :-) | 19:41 |
| carlos | what could I do for you? | 19:41 |
| Rinchen | carlos, great! Can you explain to me, if you know, why the quotes are mismatched on https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/dpkg/+pots/dpkg/eo/+translate?start=40 | 19:42 |
| Rinchen | The english version starts with a ` and ends with a ' | 19:42 |
| Rinchen | I got pinged about it today from a translator | 19:43 |
| Rinchen | looks like some escaping mechanism | 19:44 |
| carlos | Rinchen: you mean, why don't they use ` its oposite instead of ' ? | 19:46 |
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| carlos | s/its/and its/ | 19:46 |
| Rinchen | yeah | 19:47 |
| Rinchen | one would think they should be paired. ' and ' , " and " , ` and ` | 19:47 |
| carlos | well, I think it's more a font issue than they use different styles | 19:47 |
| carlos | oh, do you expect `` instead of it inclined to the right? | 19:48 |
| carlos | Rinchen: in my keyboard, when I try to type the one to the right I get ' | 19:48 |
| carlos | so I guess is a font issue | 19:48 |
| Rinchen | maybe. I have all 3 on my US Keyboard | 19:49 |
| carlos | I get them as a composite key | 19:49 |
| carlos | we use it for accents | 19:49 |
| carlos | á and à | 19:49 |
| Rinchen | right... | 19:49 |
| carlos | but I can get them with a white space | 19:49 |
| carlos | '` | 19:49 |
| carlos | although the rendering is not the expected... | 19:49 |
| carlos | maybe danilo could provide you an answer | 19:50 |
| carlos | ;-) | 19:50 |
| Rinchen | Yeah. The funny thing is that it renders the characters correctly, e.g. ĝisdatigitan | 19:50 |
| carlos | he has more experience than I do in this kind of things | 19:50 |
| Rinchen | yeah, Serbian has a few more ...nuances | 19:50 |
| Rinchen | I've asked for an export of that file. Maybe the po will give me a clue | 19:51 |
| danilos | Rinchen: that sounds a lot like the old ASCII typesetting of "proper" quotes (i.e. the same thing like inserting double spaces after a period) | 19:51 |
| Rinchen | yeah which is strange to find it in dpkg | 19:51 |
| Rinchen | This is how we `used` to do it | 19:52 |
| Rinchen | this is how we do it 'now' | 19:52 |
| Rinchen | and the reason was that we only the ` | 19:52 |
| danilos | Rinchen: typographically (i.e. while setting type), you'd have proper quotes which are neither of the ASCII quotes; but with command line programs (like dpkg :)), it's pretty common sight, I'd say | 19:52 |
| Rinchen | really? well, I guess I never noticed. | 19:52 |
| Rinchen | of course I've spent most of my time in the bowels of openoffice | 19:53 |
| danilos | Rinchen: I think proper Unicode quotes are ‘ and ’ | 19:53 |
| Rinchen | In the end, the concern here was the affect on the program if the translator changed the leading ` into a ' to match them as a pair | 19:54 |
| Rinchen | e.g. from the export: | 19:54 |
| Rinchen | msgid "cannot scan updates directory `%.255s'" | 19:55 |
| Rinchen | msgstr "ne skaneblas la ĝisdatigan dosierujon '%.255s'" | 19:55 |
| danilos | Rinchen: there should be no ill effects | 19:55 |
| danilos | Rinchen: in Serbian, I'd replace those with „ and “ | 19:55 |
| danilos | :) | 19:55 |
| Rinchen | interesting. So it must be the original author's style | 19:57 |
| Rinchen | Ok, I'll email back my team member on that | 19:57 |
| * Rinchen removes his translator team lead hat. | 19:58 | |
| Rinchen | Thanks | 19:58 |
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| Manfre | Is there a way to see why a VCS Import failed? | 20:37 |
| Rinchen | Manfre, I don't think that's exposed at the moment | 20:45 |
| Rinchen | Manfre, you might send your items to the launchpad users list or ask a question against launchpad-bzr | 20:47 |
| Rinchen | one of the admins can look at that for you | 20:47 |
| Manfre | thanks Rinchen | 20:50 |
| Rinchen | Manfre, welcome. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. | 20:51 |
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| Aloha | it looks like the packages on my ppa get deleted but not purged when i delete them, how long does it actually take to delete them from the system? | 21:18 |
| Aloha | because i need to upload a new package with the same revision number but it won't let me | 21:18 |
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| geser | Aloha: for your users of your ppa it would be better if the version number got increased | 21:47 |
| Aloha | geser, no one uses my ppa though. its still in testing phase | 21:47 |
| Aloha | i'll increase version anyway | 21:52 |
| Aloha | i guess its good to practice good techniques now | 21:53 |
| Aloha | woohoo it got accepted | 21:57 |
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