[01:19] Hi [01:19] Does a ppa publish the information necessary for users to trust the published packages? [01:19] I tried with my own ppa (apt-key add), but the files are still shown as being from an untrusted source [01:20] No, it doesn't. This is planned. [01:24] Nice [01:38] I'd be a bit worried if running apt-key add on my public key was enough to make the PPA trusted ... [01:39] jamesh: that requires a clue about gpg keys, instead of a mere wish to get rid of scary warnings. [01:39] why is that jamesh? [01:40] gryc: since I haven't signed the binaries in my PPA, it would mean that someone else has access to my private key [01:40] ohhhhhh [01:40] * gryc forgot the binaries were built on other servers === gryc_ is now known as gryc [04:38] wow, after the thread before i just noticed the pencil next to 'bug description' [04:38] it have never registered before [04:43] you should update the copyright :) [05:04] I'm getting consistent crashes when I try to edit a milestone. This is blocking my work. [05:05] AaronSw: Do you mean you're getting an OOPS? If so, having its ID is helpful for the LP admins. [05:05] https://launchpad.net/openlibrary/+milestone/opencoverthing/+edit leads to OOPS-755E531 [05:05] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/755E531 [05:06] hm should ubotu be posting that here, it's not very helpful [05:06] oh well [05:06] AaronSw, i think i was getting something similar [05:07] It's so consistent it seems like it must be something simple. [05:07] Or at least obvious. [05:07] AaronSw, is it an AttributeError? [05:07] I don't know; I don't have access to the tracebacks [05:07] i get that on milestone- [05:07] oh [05:09] yes it's bug 185732, marked critical, hopefully will be fixed soon [05:09] Launchpad bug 185732 in launchpad "+edit milestone page is broken when the date is set" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185732 [05:10] hello Odd_Bloke [05:10] poolie: Hey. :) [06:49] I'm trying to login to Ubuntu wiki using same credentials of my launchpad account but aint working, I have also tried to reset my password (as suggested in the wiki) but it didnt work even with the new password. [06:51] argh, ok [06:51] worked [07:56] New bug: #185841 in rosetta "PO parser: string index out of range" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185841 [08:02] whats the point of having a PPA if you can just distribute the .deb file? [08:03] or is it if you have dependencies that only your PPA has? [08:20] Aloha: do you have the infrastructure set up to build dapper, edgy, feisty, gutsy and hardy packages on i386, amd64 and lpia? [08:22] oh good point. will hardy packages work on gutsy? [08:22] depends [08:22] on what category of things? [08:23] on whether something the package depends on differs between gutsy and hardy [08:23] (I can't really be any more specific than that) [08:23] gotcha [08:25] so if i need lib-foobar-1.17 which is hardy but i have a gutsy install which has lib-foobar-1.16 then its probably best to use gutsy package [08:26] morning [08:26] carlos, morning [08:26] or you could build a lib-foobar-1.17 package for gutsy in your PPA (be careful about what version numbers you pick though, so you don't screw up upgrades to hardy) [08:29] gotcha [08:29] Aloha: of course, it isn't too difficult to submit both gutsy and hardy builds of a package [08:30] jamesh, can i have ppa build them with a single source package or do i need one for each? [08:30] Aloha: for some packages, if you build against libfoobar-1.17 the binary would depend on that version, while it is still possible to compile with older versions [08:31] since PPA builds the package in the associated environment, the resulting binary should be appropriate for the target distribution release [08:31] Aloha: you need to request separate builds for separate distro releases [08:32] jamesh, thnx [08:32] Aloha: it will build on all supported architectures though. [08:44] what do karma points do? [09:00] ooh sweet can delete packages now [09:00] i remember when you couldn't do that. makes me feel oldschool heh [09:00] like 2 days oldschool ;) [09:08] cprov: the delete packages on PPA, won't remove logs too ? [09:11] New bug: #185851 in malone "Link "find out why" doesn't really help you to" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185851 [09:16] New bug: #185853 in malone "Please link bug field labels to extended explanations" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185853 === \sh_away is now known as \sh [09:33] whats MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive [09:33] Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification [09:40] New bug: #185856 in malone "Upper right search box unuseful" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185856 [10:20] New bug: #185861 in launchpad-bazaar "bzr register-branch command broken?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185861 === Ubulette_ is now known as Ubulette [11:50] howoften do branch feeds update ? === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === salgado-afk is now known as salgado [12:11] New bug: #185897 in launchpad "Bug reporting instuctions need humanising" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185897 [12:20] New bug: #185901 in malone "using bugtracker for communication instead of mailing lists" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185901 [12:25] New bug: #185905 in malone "Getting Bug Lists By Email spec needs drafting" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185905 [12:30] Hello, I saw Ubuntu Hardy Translations is now open. Someone in my translations team said that we should wait for the 4th ALPHA release before we start translate. I This correct? [13:18] lucas, just read your last blog entry about dpkg-dev’s core tools. Interesting. Is the table for sid, hardy or what ? [13:19] sid [13:19] but it shouldn't differ much in hardy [13:22] i'm curious to see the trend (dapper->f->g->hardy). is that possible to do ? [13:31] New bug: #185922 in soyuz "Re-POSTing a form to +delete-packages results in a oops " [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185922 === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [13:55] New bug: #185925 in rosetta "Extract file format-specific code from translation import queue" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185925 === kiko-afk is now known as kiko [14:18] Hi, firebug shows me some kind of security error on launchpad home. Should I report a bug for this? [14:22] slytherin: what it says? [14:23] slytherin, can you /privmsg me? [14:23] that's better :) [14:23] kiko: sure === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell === kiko is now known as kiko-phone === kiko-phone is now known as kiko-afk [15:13] hello everyone [15:14] does anybody know how to change the source of a bazaar branch for a specific project? [15:14] it's a branch for which the source is a Subversion repository === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [15:17] hello, could an admin please look at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/22795 ? === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [15:38] Hi, I have just tried to create a ubuntu bug report by double clicking on a file in /var/crash. the launchpad report bug page opens, but when I click on continue (below the bug subject line) I get a page telling me: [15:38] Not allowed here [15:38] Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. You are logged in as Kai Schroeder. [15:38] URL for that page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emerald/+filebug/A8rYNBsA5LGR2OfvrSaQcIf7C5X [15:38] Any idea, why? [15:55] New bug: #185953 in soyuz "Feature request: add pagination to list of packages to delete" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185953 === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === bigon` is now known as bigon === bigon is now known as bigon` === Hobbsee_ is now known as LongPointyStick === bigon` is now known as bigon === kiko-afk is now known as kiko [18:21] Rinchen: ping [18:22] rkerr, Hi there! [18:22] rkerr, I'm on the phone but would love to chat with you in a few minutes [18:22] Rinchen, ok let me know when you've got time [18:40] Hello Elliot [18:41] hi Rinchen and PibbRelay [18:44] rkerr, ok you're up :-) === fabbione is now known as thegodfather === bigon is now known as bigon` [19:10] New bug: #186002 in rosetta ""Download translations" pages for language/package are inconsistent" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186002 === kiko is now known as kiko-phone [19:21] danilos: hello. will newly added gutsy translation automatically added to hardy too? [19:34] if a bug is assigned to the wrong package, how can I reassign it so it's new and not targeted at a specific package? so it's still waiting triaging to the right package? [19:35] psusi: have you tried to leave the package name empty? [19:35] no, the bug already exists, it was assigned to a package I maintain [19:35] but has nothing to do with it [19:36] so I marked it as invalid and now want to add a target to the bug so it's just assigned to Ubuntu in general, with unknown package hint [19:36] like the person had left the field blank to begin with [19:37] psusi: have you tried to edit the package name? [19:37] which bug btw? [19:37] ahh, t here we go :) [19:37] figured it out.. hehe [19:38] 183930 [19:41] carlos, danilos - either of you around? [19:41] Rinchen: I am [19:41] I need some education :-) [19:41] what could I do for you? [19:42] carlos, great! Can you explain to me, if you know, why the quotes are mismatched on https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/dpkg/+pots/dpkg/eo/+translate?start=40 [19:42] The english version starts with a ` and ends with a ' [19:43] I got pinged about it today from a translator [19:44] looks like some escaping mechanism [19:46] Rinchen: you mean, why don't they use ` its oposite instead of ' ? === kiko-phone is now known as kiko [19:46] s/its/and its/ [19:47] yeah [19:47] one would think they should be paired. ' and ' , " and " , ` and ` [19:47] well, I think it's more a font issue than they use different styles [19:48] oh, do you expect `` instead of it inclined to the right? [19:48] Rinchen: in my keyboard, when I try to type the one to the right I get ' [19:48] so I guess is a font issue [19:49] maybe. I have all 3 on my US Keyboard [19:49] I get them as a composite key [19:49] we use it for accents [19:49] á and à [19:49] right... [19:49] but I can get them with a white space [19:49] '` [19:49] although the rendering is not the expected... [19:50] maybe danilo could provide you an answer [19:50] ;-) [19:50] Yeah. The funny thing is that it renders the characters correctly, e.g. ĝisdatigitan [19:50] he has more experience than I do in this kind of things [19:50] yeah, Serbian has a few more ...nuances [19:51] I've asked for an export of that file. Maybe the po will give me a clue [19:51] Rinchen: that sounds a lot like the old ASCII typesetting of "proper" quotes (i.e. the same thing like inserting double spaces after a period) [19:51] yeah which is strange to find it in dpkg [19:52] This is how we `used` to do it [19:52] this is how we do it 'now' [19:52] and the reason was that we only the ` [19:52] Rinchen: typographically (i.e. while setting type), you'd have proper quotes which are neither of the ASCII quotes; but with command line programs (like dpkg :)), it's pretty common sight, I'd say [19:52] really? well, I guess I never noticed. [19:53] of course I've spent most of my time in the bowels of openoffice [19:53] Rinchen: I think proper Unicode quotes are ‘ and ’ [19:54] In the end, the concern here was the affect on the program if the translator changed the leading ` into a ' to match them as a pair [19:54] e.g. from the export: [19:55] msgid "cannot scan updates directory `%.255s'" [19:55] msgstr "ne skaneblas la ĝisdatigan dosierujon '%.255s'" [19:55] Rinchen: there should be no ill effects [19:55] Rinchen: in Serbian, I'd replace those with „ and “ [19:55] :) [19:57] interesting. So it must be the original author's style [19:57] Ok, I'll email back my team member on that [19:58] * Rinchen removes his translator team lead hat. [19:58] Thanks === \sh is now known as \sh_away === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk === kiko is now known as kiko-afk === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [20:37] Is there a way to see why a VCS Import failed? [20:45] Manfre, I don't think that's exposed at the moment [20:47] Manfre, you might send your items to the launchpad users list or ask a question against launchpad-bzr [20:47] one of the admins can look at that for you [20:50] thanks Rinchen [20:51] Manfre, welcome. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. === kiko-afk is now known as kiko === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara [21:18] it looks like the packages on my ppa get deleted but not purged when i delete them, how long does it actually take to delete them from the system? [21:18] because i need to upload a new package with the same revision number but it won't let me === leonel_ is now known as leonel [21:47] Aloha: for your users of your ppa it would be better if the version number got increased [21:47] geser, no one uses my ppa though. its still in testing phase [21:52] i'll increase version anyway [21:53] i guess its good to practice good techniques now [21:57] woohoo it got accepted === Fujitsu__ is now known as Fujitsu