[03:04] <alex_mayorga> hello all, how do I deactivate the system "beep" it "rings" even if I have the system sound muted
[03:04] <tumbleweed__> has anyone packaged latencytop for hardy yet?
[03:05] <tumbleweed__> System -> preferences -> sound -> system beep
[03:05] <tumbleweed__> ;/
[03:05] <alex_mayorga> tumbleweed__, remember me from saturday??
[03:05] <tumbleweed__> mmmmm
[03:05] <tumbleweed__> don't think so
[03:05] <tumbleweed__> but I'm kind of out of it
[03:06] <tumbleweed__> you'll have to refresh my memory
[03:06] <alex_mayorga> shouldn't the Fn+mute button turn out the system beep as well?
[03:06] <tumbleweed__> nope
[03:06] <tumbleweed__> different device entirely
[03:07] <tumbleweed__> the pc speaker isn't controlled by the soundcard
[03:07] <alex_mayorga> about mixing up the KDE, GNOME, XFCE icons when installing *ubuntu-desktop from other *ubuntu-desktop
[03:07] <tumbleweed__> oh
[03:07] <tumbleweed__> right
[03:07] <tumbleweed__> I'm bad with names
[03:08] <alex_mayorga> not a prob, I was probably using a different handle back then
[03:08] <alex_mayorga> I feel like that "bug" warrants a blueprint or something, but I'm really not familiar with ubuntu processes :S
[03:09]  * tumbleweed__ shrugs
[03:09] <tumbleweed__> I would like some milk from the milkman's wife's tits.
[03:10] <tumbleweed__> oh how rude of me
[03:10] <tumbleweed__> "tits"
[03:10] <alex_mayorga> known bug? Firefox 3 won't "register" under System -> Prefs ->Preferred Apps
[03:11] <tumbleweed__> hmmm
[03:11] <alex_mayorga> tumbleweed__. you lost me there, sorry
[03:11] <tumbleweed__> not sure
[03:11] <tumbleweed__> there is another way to do it, though
[03:11] <tumbleweed__> you want to use it instead of firefox?
[03:11] <alex_mayorga> English not my first tongue
[03:11] <tumbleweed__> ah
[03:11] <tumbleweed__> I was talking about breasts
[03:11] <alex_mayorga> always a good thing I believe
[03:11] <tumbleweed__> like I said, I'm out of it
[03:12] <tumbleweed__> I thought the cashier was a unix command and I kept trying to punch out man cashier on the debit thing
[03:12] <alex_mayorga> would you vote on such a "bug" on the mixed *untu-desktops
[03:12] <tumbleweed__> mmmm
[03:12] <tumbleweed__> not bug
[03:13] <tumbleweed__> "enhancement"
[03:13] <alex_mayorga> feature request maybe
[03:13] <alex_mayorga> then how to file it, blueprint or bug?
[03:13] <tumbleweed__> yeah
[03:13] <tumbleweed__> you've got me there ;/
[03:13] <tumbleweed__> bug
[03:13] <alex_mayorga> to late for hardy, already?
[03:13] <tumbleweed__> nope
[03:14] <alex_mayorga> OK. I'll file it and let you know in case you're interested
[03:15] <alex_mayorga> should I consult somewhere else first?
[03:17] <alex_mayorga> tumbleweed__, would you share the hack to register FF3 as default?
[03:17] <tumbleweed__> alex_mayorga : I'm unsure if it actually works, but update-alternatives --config firefox
[03:17] <tumbleweed__> try it out
[03:18] <tumbleweed__> errr
[03:18] <tumbleweed__> sudo
[03:18] <blkorpheus> or set it in preferred applications
[03:18] <tumbleweed__> blkorpheus : he just said it doesn't show up
[03:19] <tumbleweed__> ;/
[03:20] <blkorpheus> sorry just popped in
[03:20] <alex_mayorga> blkorpheus, doesn't show there, I'm actually wondering if it's a known bugger
[03:20] <blkorpheus> the whole preferred face doe snot appear, weird
[03:20] <alex_mayorga> can someone replicate?
[03:20] <blkorpheus> shows on mine
[03:21] <blkorpheus> whihc is how I set FF3 as my default browser
[03:21] <blkorpheus> you have to choose Custom web browser
[03:21] <blkorpheus> do you even get the preferred aplications dialog?
[03:21] <blkorpheus> thats what I'm not understanding
[03:22] <blkorpheus> ???
[03:24] <tumbleweed__> brb, herb
[03:24] <alex_mayorga> yes, I get the preferred "applet"
[03:25] <alex_mayorga> but the only option in there is Firefox and Custom
[03:25] <alex_mayorga> I feel like FF3 should show as well, shouldn't it?
[03:36] <Amaranth> alex_mayorga: No, not really
[03:36] <Amaranth> alex_mayorga: FF3 will replace FF2 eventually
[03:38] <DarkMageZ> is firefox 3 likely to replace firefox 2 for 8.04 release?
[03:45] <alex_mayorga> my understanding is FF2 and FF3 would coexist, at least for a while, like FF1 and FF2, am I wrong?
[03:51] <dehspehl> alex_mayorga: yeah, as far as development goes but FF2 is done as far as features
[04:01] <wastrel> i filed a bug and upstream fixed it - haven't seen an update for a couple of days, should i worry that the fix isn't going to make it into hardy?  (universe package)
[04:04] <DarkMageZ> wastrel, see if the bug exists on launchpad. if it does then poke the bug. if not then file it noting there's a patch upstream.
[04:05] <wastrel> i put it in launchpad :]
[04:05] <wastrel> that's how upstream found out about it
[04:06] <DarkMageZ> ah. so upstream commented on the bug saying it was fixed? all you need to do is poke a motu with a stick.
[04:06] <DarkMageZ> or in my case. poke them over and over until one of them started to bleed ?
[06:00] <underwatercow> Are there any serious issues with Hardy currently? ie. if I were to run an upgrade now, would I regret it?
[06:09] <alteregolio> i think maximus prime works
[06:13] <IcemanV9> underwatercow: read the /topic, then decide if it is worth the trip or not :)
[06:35] <underwatercow> IcemanV9: I did, I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't going to have it deleting my games or X again... ;-D
[06:47] <IcemanV9> underwatercow: back it up then ... ^_^
[06:51] <underwatercow> IcemanV9: Naturally. ;-D Just like to know if I should expect issues so I can plan around it.
[06:52] <underwatercow> Is there a noticeable difference in the new Xorg? Or is it mostly under the hood?
[06:53] <IcemanV9> underwatercow: i haven't try the upgrade yet ... plan to do that later .. probably this weekend. install fresh works (at least for me)
[06:57] <underwatercow> IcemanV9: Yeah... I suppose that wouldn't complicate things too much... Do you know if there is a way to find out which programs you have changes from a default install...
[06:57] <underwatercow> changed*
[06:57] <underwatercow> that is
[06:57] <underwatercow> removed or installed
[06:57] <underwatercow> from the repo
[06:57] <alteregolio> who invented the tux?
[06:59] <IcemanV9> underwatercow: i just changed to a different mirror ... i haven't play with it for a while now. :/
[10:08] <milian> is the new .24 kernel integrated in hardy?
[10:09] <milian> and will it be made available for gutsy users?
[10:11] <avatar_> % uname -a
[10:11] <avatar_> Linux estate 2.6.24-4-generic #1 SMP Mon Jan 14 17:30:39 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:11] <avatar_> yes, 2.6.24 is in hardy
[10:11] <avatar_> and afaik it wil not be in the repositories for gutsy
[10:12] <milian> ty
[10:24] <alteregolio> whats the name of this searchengine?
[10:25] <alteregolio> it finds also wrong typo stuff
[10:27] <ccooke> alteregolio: ... is that an Ubuntu Hardy question?
[10:32] <alteregolio> the search applet
[10:33] <alteregolio> bayoran text regconition or something
[11:10] <bardyr> hey
[11:11] <bardyr> i have some problems with the latest kernel updates, when i boot it freezes and i need to hit the power bottom and hold/hit keys for it for it to boot
[11:11] <bardyr> and can it be that the kernel sources/headers are missing?
[11:23] <bardyr> does anyone know if nautilus + sftp is broken? i suddenly get Access denied on all my sftp shares
[11:24] <DarkMageZ> bardyr, if that's the only way nautilus is brokenzed for you then you're doing well :p
[11:24] <DarkMageZ> bardyr, does Places > Network load for you?
[11:25] <bardyr> nope
[13:36] <slytherin> I asked this yesterday also and got some help. But I need tested again to test 'nautilus-open-terminal' package. :-)
[13:45] <bardyr> slytherin, sure what do you need?
[13:46] <slytherin> bardyr: This extension is currently not working in hardy. I have prepared the fix. I want someone to test the package. Can you please refer bug 185435
[13:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 185435 in nautilus-open-terminal "nautilus-open-terminal no longer works in Hardy" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185435
[13:47] <bardyr> slytherin, refer?
[13:49] <slytherin> bardyr: I mean read it once. I have links for the package added in that bug.
[13:51] <bardyr> slytherin, is your ppa nautilus-open-terminal_0.8-1ubuntu2~ppa1_i386.deb okay?
[13:51] <slytherin> bardyr: Yes it is.
[13:53] <bardyr> where should the terminal option be :/
[13:55] <slytherin> bardyr: You will need to restart nautilus, either 'killall nautilus' or relogin. The open terminal option should show in right click menu in any folder or even on desktop
[13:57] <bardyr> oh, works
[13:57] <slytherin> bardyr: any nautilus crashes?
[13:57] <bardyr> slytherin, nope even tried to reproduce the trash segfault
[13:58] <slytherin> bardyr: Good. Thanks for testing. :-)
[13:58] <bardyr> np
[14:00] <bardyr> slytherin, this is actually a pretty nice feature :D
[14:00] <slytherin> bardyr: And you never knew it?
[14:00] <bardyr> slytherin, no, usually i just copy/pasted the location
[14:01] <slytherin> bardyr: Can you add comment to the bug that package from my PPA works. So I will have some moral support. :-P
[14:01] <bardyr> yea
[14:08] <emgent> someone know how to downgrade (hardy-gutsy) in clean mode?
[14:18] <bazhang> !downgrade
[14:18] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[14:51] <Filibberdy> hi all, does anyone know of any outstanding issues with sun's jdk and firefox? Im having trouble getting applets to load
[14:52] <slytherin> Filibberdy: What is error exactly?
[14:53] <Filibberdy> slytherin, nothing, applets just dont load
[14:53] <Filibberdy> about:config shows java's as installed and working
[14:53] <Filibberdy> but i just get blank spaces where the applets should be
[14:53] <slytherin> Filibberdy: Anything to do with some sort of proxy settings?
[14:55] <Filibberdy> no proxy settings, works fine in Edgy on the same pc
[14:57] <slytherin> Filibberdy: As far as I know there are no outstanding issues. Can you paste the output of about:plugins somewhere? A screenshot perhaps
[14:57] <Oli``> Is is a bug or a "feature" that the Window List panel-applet will *only* show windows from all desktops?
[14:58] <LeeJunFan> Anyone got a radeon working with hardy right now? Just installed, have to use vesa drivers :( radeon doesn't start, fglrx locks. The generated xorg.conf looks absent a lot of config options, but even my working config from gutsy doesn't work.
[14:58] <slytherin> Oli``: What do you mean by 'only' what else do you expect?
[14:58] <Filibberdy> i'll try slytherin
[14:58] <slytherin> LeeJunFan: Which radeon?
[14:58] <LeeJunFan> 9700 mobility
[14:59] <crdlb> what happens exactly if you use radeon?
[15:00] <Oli``> slytherin: Well the default is just to show windows from the current desktop. Now if I open a window on Desktop 2, there's an entry for it on Desktop 1 3 and 4's window lists
[15:00] <slytherin> Oli``: Of course then it is a bug
[15:00] <LeeJunFan> crdlb: Xorg.log says no usable modes found
[15:01] <Oli``> slytherin: there's a setting in its preferences, but that seems to not do anything for me.. Does the same happen for anybody else?
[15:01] <slytherin> Oli``: I don't have access to hardy machine at present so can't confirm
[15:01] <Filibberdy> LeeJunFan: have you tried putting Option "AGPMode" "4" in your xorg.conf,in the Device section?
[15:03] <LeeJunFan> not yet.
[15:03] <LeeJunFan> my old config didn't have it.
[15:04] <LeeJunFan> Filibberdy: I'll give it a try and brb. I need to cp my log X log anyway.
[15:05] <Filibberdy> slytherin: http://flibberdy.co.uk/plugs.html
[15:06] <Filibberdy> i'll brb
[15:11] <Flibberdy> slytherin: see anything odd in my about:config ?
[15:12] <slytherin> Flibberdy: That page times out for me. :-( Why don't you paste the screenshot at picfu.com
[15:15] <Flibberdy> http://picfu.com/link/1903/46783a8e77713659 slytherin
[15:18] <slytherin> finalbeta: Damn. The ridiculous content filtering system in my office. :-( Sorry can't help you here
[15:20] <Flibberdy> it's ok
[15:20] <Flibberdy> i'll just keep bashing away until i get something working
[15:20] <blkorpheus> well you guy broke liferea
[15:20] <blkorpheus> ughh
[15:21] <Flibberdy> it's a bit worrying that you couldn'tconnect to my website slytherin, my host must be having issues
[15:23] <slytherin> finalbeta: What does this command say - ls -l /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so
[15:24] <Flibberdy> can't check at the mo, i've had to reboot into a working OS so i can continue working on my applets :)
[15:25] <Flibberdy> I'll be back later when i'm back in trouble shooting mode
[15:25] <Flibberdy> thanks for your help
[15:25] <slytherin> Flibberdy: Ok. See you tomorrow same time if possible
[15:29] <DanaG> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/linuxppc/patch?id=16345
[15:29] <DanaG> yay, somebody else realizes the CFS scheduler screwed-up-ness.
[15:30] <LeeJunFan> okay, here's my Xorg.log and xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53460/
[15:31] <LeeJunFan> Adding Driver "radeon" gives the output seen in the pastebin.
[15:31] <LeeJunFan> actually, leaving no driver does the same thing.
[15:31] <mrbrdo_> hey, how can i upgrade Kubuntu gutsy to hardy?
[15:31] <senorpedro> hi ho
[15:31] <DanaG> I'm also getting some apps freezing momentarily on open or close.
[15:32] <DanaG> For example, when I'm starting my Gnome session, Pidgin freezes for a few seconds, until I get impatient and kill it.
[15:34] <mrbrdo_> come on how do i upgrade to hardy
[15:34] <Flibberdy> mrbrdo_: iirc it's sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -d
[15:34] <mrbrdo_> all the wiki docs are for ubuntu, none for kubuntu or apt-get
[15:34] <DanaG> !aptitude
[15:34] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[15:34] <mrbrdo_> Flibberdy will that change my repositories though?
[15:34] <Flibberdy> mrbrdo_: i haven't the foggiest, i installed from scratch
[15:34] <DanaG> Also, apport won't let me even see backtraces if I have old versions of packages.
[15:35] <Flibberdy> LeeJunFan: it sounds like you need to set up some video modes for your monitor
[15:36] <Flibberdy> have you tried running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[15:36] <LeeJunFan> Flibberdy: yeah, I just found this too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/141539
[15:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 141539 in ubuntu "X fails to start with ATI Radeon 9100 IGP" [Undecided,New]
[15:38] <Flibberdy> LeeJunFan: I used the OnTheEdge drivers to fix my X issues with the new ati driver
[15:38] <LeeJunFan> not familiar with OnTheEdge drivers.(?)
[15:40] <LeeJunFan> Flibberdy: where can I find more info on that?
[15:42] <Flibberdy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgOnTheEdge LeeJunFan
[15:42] <LeeJunFan> Flibberdy: thanks, I'll look into that.
[15:42] <bardyr> how come Bus 001 Device 010: ID 0b05:1706 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. WL-167G 802.11g Adapter [ralink] wont work with the latest rt2x00 drivers, i dont even try to use the card, its like it does not have the pci id for the card or something
[15:46] <DanaG> Well, 2.6.24-5-generic is very slightly better, but not much.
[15:47] <mrbrdo_> is KDE4 any more stable in hardy?
[15:47] <bardyr> DanaG, is -5 released? :D
[15:47] <mrbrdo_> it crashes all the time on my gutsy, even when i do something like open Konsole, or Firefox
[15:47] <bardyr> DanaG, been waiting on a kernel after the last couple days filling kernel updates
[15:47] <DanaG> The separate packages have all been released, but the linux-generic metapackage has not been pointed at them.
[15:48] <LeeJunFan> Flibberdy: that did it! Thanks a bunch. Now everything seems so tiny at 1650x1080 compared to 640x480 :)
[15:48] <bardyr> DanaG, it has now
[15:48] <bardyr> :)
[15:48] <bardyr> is the 2.6.24-5 kernel build against the released 2.6.24 kernel?
[15:49] <DanaG> ANother weird thing with Hardy: when I enter my password into GDM, it sits there for about 2 to 5 seconds before logging in.
[15:49] <DanaG> okay, linux-image-generic now also needs update.
[15:49] <DanaG> oh, it has been.
[16:02] <blkorpheus> thx did not know we have a newer kernel verison
[16:02] <blkorpheus> still using -3-server
[16:02] <blkorpheus> -4-server was broken
[16:02] <blkorpheus> lets see if -5 works
[16:11] <wastrel> i have hardy
[16:12] <flipstar> kewl
[16:17] <blkorpheus> new server kernel is broken as well
[16:23] <kripken> hmm, login and logout sounds are now working after the latest update. Still no sound at the login screen itself though
[16:41] <mrbrdo_> what's the proper way for beryl or whatever is the best now, on KDE4?
[16:41] <mrbrdo_> link would be fine
[16:53] <YangYin> hello could someone send me the repository link?
[16:54] <Pici> YangYin: ?
[16:54] <Pici> YangYin: What repo links?
[16:54] <YangYin> yeah
[16:55] <YangYin> pici deb http://ubuntu.something.something hardy
[16:55] <DanaG> forgot one part: the 'component'
[16:55] <DanaG> (as in main, universe, and such)
[16:56] <Pici> YangYin: hardy is on all the repo mirrors.  Please see the /topic.
[16:57] <YangYin> Pici: so there is no difference between the gutsy fiesty or heron so i could use fiesty?
[16:58] <blkorpheus> why do you hate the topic?
[16:58] <Pici> YangYin: I dont mean to be rude, but if you are confused about this you probably shouldn't be running Hardy.
[16:59] <YangYin> Pici: your not rude, thank you for your help though
[17:01] <YangYin> pici: sorry i was an idiot didn't see it
[17:03] <YangYin> Pici: right under my nose, im sorry.
[17:08] <flipstar> btw does it finally make a different if i upgrade trough all the alpha versions or install the final release ?
[17:09] <bazhang> no difference--just more breakage along the way :}
[17:09] <flipstar> oh :) okay just asking becourse updates never remove anythink
[17:10] <Pici> !final
[17:10] <ubotu> If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Hardy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[17:12] <Le-Chuck_ITA> hi there - firefox is taking 100% cpu for me on the default start page
[17:12] <Le-Chuck_ITA> in hardy
[17:12] <flipstar> the ff beta2 release ?
[17:13] <Le-Chuck_ITA> no firefox 2.0
[17:13] <Le-Chuck_ITA> oh well I could also test the new one
[17:13] <flipstar> hm it is shipped with it :)
[17:13] <Le-Chuck_ITA> hmm
[17:14] <Le-Chuck_ITA> in help/about it says 2.0.0
[17:15] <flipstar> firefox 3 beta2 is already out..give it a try ;)
[17:15] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ok but will it use my old config?
[17:15] <Le-Chuck_ITA> shall I rename it?
[17:15] <flipstar> i think it uses the old config
[17:15] <flipstar> bookmarks and so
[17:16] <Le-Chuck_ITA> thank you trying
[17:16] <wastrel> hi
[17:17] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I renamed my old config
[17:17] <Le-Chuck_ITA> in any case firefox 2
[17:17] <Le-Chuck_ITA> with my old config does NOT take 100% cpu
[17:17] <gileswwwrk> heya is the -virtual kernel used for xen in hardy?
[17:58] <pvandewyngaerde> anyone else having this problem ?? http://pastebin.com/m28f04405
[18:08] <Gnine> 64bit version Fspot is working nicely
[18:10] <DanaG> Alsa_driver: error on capture pollfd.
[18:10] <DanaG> Alsa_driver: stat = fffffffc, xrun of at least    0.072 ms
[18:10] <Gnine> 32bit version Fspot still has issues running slideshow
[18:57] <underwatercow> After I upgraded to Hardy, I can't remote desktop... doesn't anyone know why this is?
[18:58] <flipstar> you cant connect to a remote desktop or others can not connect ?
[19:00] <underwatercow> I ran the upgrade over remote connection
[19:00] <underwatercow> would that cause a problem?
[19:00] <flipstar> oh not necessary but possible
[19:01] <flipstar> so you dont have physically access to the machine ?
[19:01] <underwatercow> I'm at school now, so not until later
[19:01] <underwatercow> ;-D
[19:02] <underwatercow> I can ssh though
[19:02] <underwatercow> the remote desktop and firewall settings appear fine
[19:02] <underwatercow> so I'm wondering if the server isn't running
[19:03] <flipstar> hm maybe there was an configuration problem during the upgrade
[19:03] <underwatercow> So the question is how to fix it... I'm not sure how to tell if the server is running
[19:03] <underwatercow> or how to fix it if it's not
[19:04] <flipstar> why dont you start that server again over the remote desktop ?
[19:05] <underwatercow> I'm not sure what ubuntu uses
[19:05] <underwatercow> it doesn't seem to use vncserver
[19:05] <underwatercow> it's vino something isn't it?
[19:06] <flipstar> my favourite is x11vnc
[19:06] <underwatercow> if you go into preferences, remote desktop
[19:06] <underwatercow> it is using a particular server
[19:06] <underwatercow> I'm not sure what that is
[19:07] <flipstar> yeah but there are graphical..
[19:07] <underwatercow> yes... but what server do the settings correspond with?
[19:07] <flipstar> krfb is the command for that
[19:07] <underwatercow> what would I run manually?
[19:08] <flipstar> krfb .. but you need to configure it graphically
[19:08] <underwatercow> that's what ubuntu uses for it's vnc server?
[19:08] <underwatercow> gnome?
[19:09] <flipstar> no kde, sry
[19:10] <flipstar> for gnome its vino ..
[20:30] <mrbrdo_> hey
[20:31] <mrbrdo_> i installed xorg-driver-fglrx
[20:31] <mrbrdo_> but lsmod does not show fglrx
[20:31] <mrbrdo_> using hardy of course
[20:33] <crdlb> mrbrdo_: make sure you have linux-generic installed (assuming you're using the generic kernel)
[20:33] <crdlb> if you do, try sudo modprobe fglrx
[20:34] <NoelJB> firefox is no longer launched when I try to click a URL on the desktop, and no longer allows me to drop a URL on the desktop.  Anyone know if this is a known issue, and if not, where to look for the cause?
[20:35] <NoelJB> In the latter case, I get "Drag and drop is only supported on local file systems" when trying to drop the URL.
[20:36] <NoelJB> This broken with a recent update.  Was working previously.  Nothing found by Google search, so far.
[20:36] <crdlb> NoelJB: nautilus has pretty much been rewritten
[20:36] <crdlb> to use gio
[20:36] <crdlb> so some things are broken :)
[20:37] <NoelJB> crdlb, :-)  I can deal with broken during an alpha.  :-)  So it is nautilus.  Had a feeling.  Do you know if this has been opened on launchpad?  I'll subscribe to a bug report if one exists.
[20:37] <crdlb> I'm sure there is a bug or two about the various regressions :)
[20:38] <NoelJB> LOL
[20:50] <NoelJB> crdlb, submitted.  I didn't see any dups, but if there is one, I'm sure they'll mark it.
[21:00] <UnNaturalHigh> any of you know of a decent svn gui client?
[21:34] <e_r_c_e> hello, i once more :)
[21:35] <e_r_c_e> i have to install glade
[21:35] <e_r_c_e> so i typed sudo apt-get install glade
[21:35] <e_r_c_e> then, it typed this:
[21:35] <e_r_c_e> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53492/
[21:38] <fred_2> 'is another process using it?'
[21:38] <Leechzilla> Any chance of blu-ray support in Hardy?
[21:39] <e_r_c_e> fred_2: i didn't run any APT, i just started my comp..-
[21:39] <fred_2> do you have autoupdate enabled <?
[21:39] <e_r_c_e> nope
[21:40] <e_r_c_e> it doesnt do anythink only notify me
[21:45] <bardyr> is there any known issues with nautilus and gnome-vfs? i cant connect to sftp sites, all i get is Access Denied
[21:49] <e_r_c_e> g00d night =)
[21:51] <wastrel> there's autoupdate?
[21:54] <atlef> i am surprised how stable this install of xubuntu daily build is, everything just works so far.
[21:55] <fred_2> ack
[22:01] <nacho_> hi
[22:02] <nacho_> i found a missing dependency in anjuta
[22:02] <nacho_> g++ should be a dependency because is needed for symbol browser
[22:02] <nacho_> plugin
[22:04] <crimsun> ...a C++ compiler is necessary?
[22:04] <nacho_> it seems
[22:04] <crimsun> g++ is already Recommended
[22:04] <nacho_> i can't generate the global tags without the g++ compiler
[22:05] <crimsun> strange, cpp itself isn't enough?
[22:06] <nacho_> i think that no
[22:06] <nacho_> i already had cpp installed when i try to generate the tags
[22:06] <nacho_> did you try to generate the tags only with cpp?
[22:06] <nacho_> you can try to generate them with this command:
[22:06] <nacho_> /usr/share/anjuta/scripts/create_global_tags.sh
[22:10] <atlef> is it possible to take a "snapshot" of my system as it is now, before i apply the updates
[22:14] <crimsun> sure, with lvm.
[22:15] <crimsun> Nexenta does something similar with ZFS.
[22:15] <crimsun> and brr, asac's nm 0.7 snap really fscks associating with my encrypted APs.
[22:17] <blkorpheus> where can one find the gobuntu kernel, besides it's install disk? Is it in the repos?
[22:18] <crimsun> hmm?
[22:18] <crimsun> it's the same base kernel.
[22:18] <crimsun> linux-image-2.6.24-5-generic for the desktop image.
[22:19] <crimsun> nacho_: I don't have anjuta installed.  Can you confirm that g++ is absolutely necessary?
[22:20] <nacho_> i'll try it uninstalling it
[22:20] <crimsun> nacho_: i.e., removing the 'g++-4.2' package causes the procedure to fail.
[22:20] <blkorpheus> the generic kernel has non free blobs right?
[22:20] <blkorpheus> I was informed that gobuntu has a kernel without those blobs
[22:21] <blkorpheus> thus, not the regular generic kernel?
[22:21] <crimsun> Hmm, that would be new to me.  Which blobs are missing, then?
[22:21] <nacho_> crimsun, yep
[22:21] <blkorpheus> the non-free ones?
[22:21] <nacho_> if i uninstall g++ i get lots of warning when i try to generate the tags
[22:21] <crimsun> blkorpheus: more precisely.
[22:21] <crimsun> nacho_: warnings or errors?
[22:22] <blkorpheus> http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com/msg02804.html
[22:22] <crimsun> blkorpheus: the only bits I know offhand that /might/ be suspect are the firmware.
[22:22] <blkorpheus> non-free firmware
[22:22] <nacho_> WARNING: Could not create tags file /home/jebe/.anjuta/tags/ORBit-CosNaming-2.0.anjutatags!
[22:22] <blkorpheus> yup
[22:22] <nacho_> that kind of warnings
[22:23] <nacho_> but i mean if i am going to program with anjuta only with c i don't need to know that i need to have installed g++ to add global tags
[22:24] <crimsun> nacho_: right, that's why it's currently an alternative.
[22:24] <crimsun> meaning an "alternate dependency"
[22:25] <crimsun> blkorpheus: that's still the case, and AFAIK, gobuntu doesn't use a separate one, but I don't mirror their development.
[22:25] <crimsun> e.g., cassini.ko is still part of linux.
[22:25] <crimsun> and is still shipped in -generic
[22:26] <crimsun> nacho_: for that matter, g++ /is/ a Recommended package for anjuta.
[22:26] <crimsun> that meta will pull in g++-4.2
[22:26] <nacho_> mmm, strange
[22:26] <crimsun> thus, using aptitude or apt-get to install anjuta will take care of that issue.
[22:26] <nacho_> yeah, maybe you're right
[22:26] <nacho_> yeah, but if i use gnome-devel
[22:26] <DanaG> WTF?  Gparted thinks my hard drive is unpartitioned.
[22:27] <nacho_> i am not going to get that information
[22:27] <nacho_> i think
[22:27] <DanaG> Well, I'm booted from it, so it must obviously be partitioned...
[22:28] <crimsun> DanaG: unless you used lvm on the raw block device.
[22:28] <DanaG> Nope.
[22:28] <DanaG> I just accidentally did something to my partition table.
[22:29] <DanaG> fdisk is fine and testdisk are fine, but cfdisk says: FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 3: Partition ends after end-of-disk
[22:29] <DanaG> And gparted is just mysteriously empty.
[22:31] <Sonicadvance1> eh....I seem to be missing a CPU core..this happened after a few updates yesterday.what's going on here? :P
[22:31] <crimsun> hmm?
[22:32] <crimsun> I wouldn't even be complaining.  5.9 hasn't been mirrored out yet.
[22:32] <Sonicadvance1> cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ @ 2.60GHz w/ 1024 KB L2 Cache]
[22:32] <Sonicadvance1> one core! oh the horror
[22:32] <crimsun> like I said, 5.9 is still building.
[22:32] <Sonicadvance1> wait..
[22:32] <Sonicadvance1> 5.9 of what?
[22:33] <crimsun> linux.
[22:33] <Sonicadvance1> eh?
[22:33] <crimsun> which, heh, FTBFS due to a missing ABI bump.
[22:33] <odin__> Can someone please help me install 64 bit nvidia drivers?
[22:34] <crimsun> Sonicadvance1: linux is the name of the source package that generates your kernel images.
[22:34] <crimsun> e.g., http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11569528/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.linux_2.6.24-5.9_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[22:34] <DanaG> Aah, my extended partition extends beyond the end of the disk.
[22:35] <Sonicadvance1> oh, ha, right >.>
[22:35] <DanaG> I just installed a .5 something kernel; was that 32-bit only?
[22:35] <odin__> Can someone please help me install 64 bit nvidia drivers?
[22:36] <crimsun> DanaG: 5.8 is the latest that built.
[22:36] <odin__> I tried following some guide to install them, and it made things all screwed up
[22:37] <odin__> no one wants to help me? =(
[22:44] <DanaG> I fixed my partitions.
[22:45] <DanaG> I had to cfdisk dump, then feed the output back to it to find the error.  Then I fixed the error, and fed the fixed dump to it.
[23:40] <askand> !info wine
[23:40] <ubotu> wine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.53-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 34627 kB, installed size 107596 kB