=== Dana1 is now known as DanaG === lakin_ is now known as lakin [03:04] hello all, how do I deactivate the system "beep" it "rings" even if I have the system sound muted [03:04] has anyone packaged latencytop for hardy yet? [03:05] System -> preferences -> sound -> system beep [03:05] ;/ [03:05] tumbleweed__, remember me from saturday?? [03:05] mmmmm [03:05] don't think so [03:05] but I'm kind of out of it [03:06] you'll have to refresh my memory [03:06] shouldn't the Fn+mute button turn out the system beep as well? [03:06] nope [03:06] different device entirely [03:07] the pc speaker isn't controlled by the soundcard [03:07] about mixing up the KDE, GNOME, XFCE icons when installing *ubuntu-desktop from other *ubuntu-desktop [03:07] oh [03:07] right [03:07] I'm bad with names [03:08] not a prob, I was probably using a different handle back then [03:08] I feel like that "bug" warrants a blueprint or something, but I'm really not familiar with ubuntu processes :S [03:09] * tumbleweed__ shrugs [03:09] I would like some milk from the milkman's wife's tits. [03:10] oh how rude of me [03:10] "tits" [03:10] known bug? Firefox 3 won't "register" under System -> Prefs ->Preferred Apps [03:11] hmmm [03:11] tumbleweed__. you lost me there, sorry [03:11] not sure [03:11] there is another way to do it, though [03:11] you want to use it instead of firefox? [03:11] English not my first tongue [03:11] ah [03:11] I was talking about breasts [03:11] always a good thing I believe [03:11] like I said, I'm out of it [03:12] I thought the cashier was a unix command and I kept trying to punch out man cashier on the debit thing [03:12] would you vote on such a "bug" on the mixed *untu-desktops [03:12] mmmm [03:12] not bug [03:13] "enhancement" [03:13] feature request maybe [03:13] then how to file it, blueprint or bug? [03:13] yeah [03:13] you've got me there ;/ [03:13] bug [03:13] to late for hardy, already? [03:13] nope [03:14] OK. I'll file it and let you know in case you're interested [03:15] should I consult somewhere else first? [03:17] tumbleweed__, would you share the hack to register FF3 as default? [03:17] alex_mayorga : I'm unsure if it actually works, but update-alternatives --config firefox [03:17] try it out [03:18] errr [03:18] sudo [03:18] or set it in preferred applications [03:18] blkorpheus : he just said it doesn't show up [03:19] ;/ [03:20] sorry just popped in [03:20] blkorpheus, doesn't show there, I'm actually wondering if it's a known bugger [03:20] the whole preferred face doe snot appear, weird [03:20] can someone replicate? [03:20] shows on mine [03:21] whihc is how I set FF3 as my default browser [03:21] you have to choose Custom web browser [03:21] do you even get the preferred aplications dialog? [03:21] thats what I'm not understanding [03:22] ??? [03:24] brb, herb [03:24] yes, I get the preferred "applet" [03:25] but the only option in there is Firefox and Custom [03:25] I feel like FF3 should show as well, shouldn't it? [03:36] alex_mayorga: No, not really [03:36] alex_mayorga: FF3 will replace FF2 eventually [03:38] is firefox 3 likely to replace firefox 2 for 8.04 release? [03:45] my understanding is FF2 and FF3 would coexist, at least for a while, like FF1 and FF2, am I wrong? [03:51] alex_mayorga: yeah, as far as development goes but FF2 is done as far as features [04:01] i filed a bug and upstream fixed it - haven't seen an update for a couple of days, should i worry that the fix isn't going to make it into hardy? (universe package) [04:04] wastrel, see if the bug exists on launchpad. if it does then poke the bug. if not then file it noting there's a patch upstream. [04:05] i put it in launchpad :] [04:05] that's how upstream found out about it [04:06] ah. so upstream commented on the bug saying it was fixed? all you need to do is poke a motu with a stick. [04:06] or in my case. poke them over and over until one of them started to bleed ? [06:00] Are there any serious issues with Hardy currently? ie. if I were to run an upgrade now, would I regret it? [06:09] i think maximus prime works [06:13] underwatercow: read the /topic, then decide if it is worth the trip or not :) [06:35] IcemanV9: I did, I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't going to have it deleting my games or X again... ;-D [06:47] underwatercow: back it up then ... ^_^ [06:51] IcemanV9: Naturally. ;-D Just like to know if I should expect issues so I can plan around it. [06:52] Is there a noticeable difference in the new Xorg? Or is it mostly under the hood? [06:53] underwatercow: i haven't try the upgrade yet ... plan to do that later .. probably this weekend. install fresh works (at least for me) [06:57] IcemanV9: Yeah... I suppose that wouldn't complicate things too much... Do you know if there is a way to find out which programs you have changes from a default install... [06:57] changed* [06:57] that is [06:57] removed or installed [06:57] from the repo [06:57] who invented the tux? [06:59] underwatercow: i just changed to a different mirror ... i haven't play with it for a while now. :/ === Sebast1an is now known as Sebastian [10:08] is the new .24 kernel integrated in hardy? [10:09] and will it be made available for gutsy users? [10:11] % uname -a [10:11] Linux estate 2.6.24-4-generic #1 SMP Mon Jan 14 17:30:39 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux [10:11] yes, 2.6.24 is in hardy [10:11] and afaik it wil not be in the repositories for gutsy [10:12] ty [10:24] whats the name of this searchengine? [10:25] it finds also wrong typo stuff [10:27] alteregolio: ... is that an Ubuntu Hardy question? [10:32] the search applet [10:33] bayoran text regconition or something [11:10] hey [11:11] i have some problems with the latest kernel updates, when i boot it freezes and i need to hit the power bottom and hold/hit keys for it for it to boot [11:11] and can it be that the kernel sources/headers are missing? [11:23] does anyone know if nautilus + sftp is broken? i suddenly get Access denied on all my sftp shares [11:24] bardyr, if that's the only way nautilus is brokenzed for you then you're doing well :p [11:24] bardyr, does Places > Network load for you? [11:25] nope [13:36] I asked this yesterday also and got some help. But I need tested again to test 'nautilus-open-terminal' package. :-) [13:45] slytherin, sure what do you need? [13:46] bardyr: This extension is currently not working in hardy. I have prepared the fix. I want someone to test the package. Can you please refer bug 185435 [13:46] Launchpad bug 185435 in nautilus-open-terminal "nautilus-open-terminal no longer works in Hardy" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185435 [13:47] slytherin, refer? [13:49] bardyr: I mean read it once. I have links for the package added in that bug. [13:51] slytherin, is your ppa nautilus-open-terminal_0.8-1ubuntu2~ppa1_i386.deb okay? [13:51] bardyr: Yes it is. [13:53] where should the terminal option be :/ [13:55] bardyr: You will need to restart nautilus, either 'killall nautilus' or relogin. The open terminal option should show in right click menu in any folder or even on desktop [13:57] oh, works [13:57] bardyr: any nautilus crashes? [13:57] slytherin, nope even tried to reproduce the trash segfault [13:58] bardyr: Good. Thanks for testing. :-) [13:58] np [14:00] slytherin, this is actually a pretty nice feature :D [14:00] bardyr: And you never knew it? [14:00] slytherin, no, usually i just copy/pasted the location [14:01] bardyr: Can you add comment to the bug that package from my PPA works. So I will have some moral support. :-P [14:01] yea [14:08] someone know how to downgrade (hardy-gutsy) in clean mode? [14:18] !downgrade [14:18] Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system. === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth === crd1b is now known as crdlb [14:51] hi all, does anyone know of any outstanding issues with sun's jdk and firefox? Im having trouble getting applets to load [14:52] Filibberdy: What is error exactly? [14:53] slytherin, nothing, applets just dont load [14:53] about:config shows java's as installed and working [14:53] but i just get blank spaces where the applets should be [14:53] Filibberdy: Anything to do with some sort of proxy settings? [14:55] no proxy settings, works fine in Edgy on the same pc [14:57] Filibberdy: As far as I know there are no outstanding issues. Can you paste the output of about:plugins somewhere? A screenshot perhaps [14:57] Is is a bug or a "feature" that the Window List panel-applet will *only* show windows from all desktops? [14:58] Anyone got a radeon working with hardy right now? Just installed, have to use vesa drivers :( radeon doesn't start, fglrx locks. The generated xorg.conf looks absent a lot of config options, but even my working config from gutsy doesn't work. [14:58] Oli``: What do you mean by 'only' what else do you expect? [14:58] i'll try slytherin [14:58] LeeJunFan: Which radeon? [14:58] 9700 mobility [14:59] what happens exactly if you use radeon? [15:00] slytherin: Well the default is just to show windows from the current desktop. Now if I open a window on Desktop 2, there's an entry for it on Desktop 1 3 and 4's window lists [15:00] Oli``: Of course then it is a bug [15:00] crdlb: Xorg.log says no usable modes found [15:01] slytherin: there's a setting in its preferences, but that seems to not do anything for me.. Does the same happen for anybody else? [15:01] Oli``: I don't have access to hardy machine at present so can't confirm [15:01] LeeJunFan: have you tried putting Option "AGPMode" "4" in your xorg.conf,in the Device section? [15:03] not yet. [15:03] my old config didn't have it. [15:04] Filibberdy: I'll give it a try and brb. I need to cp my log X log anyway. [15:05] slytherin: http://flibberdy.co.uk/plugs.html [15:06] i'll brb [15:11] slytherin: see anything odd in my about:config ? [15:12] Flibberdy: That page times out for me. :-( Why don't you paste the screenshot at picfu.com [15:15] http://picfu.com/link/1903/46783a8e77713659 slytherin [15:18] finalbeta: Damn. The ridiculous content filtering system in my office. :-( Sorry can't help you here [15:20] it's ok [15:20] i'll just keep bashing away until i get something working [15:20] well you guy broke liferea [15:20] ughh [15:21] it's a bit worrying that you couldn'tconnect to my website slytherin, my host must be having issues [15:23] finalbeta: What does this command say - ls -l /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so [15:24] can't check at the mo, i've had to reboot into a working OS so i can continue working on my applets :) [15:25] I'll be back later when i'm back in trouble shooting mode [15:25] thanks for your help [15:25] Flibberdy: Ok. See you tomorrow same time if possible [15:29] http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/linuxppc/patch?id=16345 [15:29] yay, somebody else realizes the CFS scheduler screwed-up-ness. [15:30] okay, here's my Xorg.log and xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53460/ [15:31] Adding Driver "radeon" gives the output seen in the pastebin. [15:31] actually, leaving no driver does the same thing. [15:31] hey, how can i upgrade Kubuntu gutsy to hardy? [15:31] hi ho [15:31] I'm also getting some apps freezing momentarily on open or close. [15:32] For example, when I'm starting my Gnome session, Pidgin freezes for a few seconds, until I get impatient and kill it. [15:34] come on how do i upgrade to hardy [15:34] mrbrdo_: iirc it's sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -d [15:34] all the wiki docs are for ubuntu, none for kubuntu or apt-get [15:34] !aptitude [15:34] aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide [15:34] Flibberdy will that change my repositories though? [15:34] mrbrdo_: i haven't the foggiest, i installed from scratch [15:34] Also, apport won't let me even see backtraces if I have old versions of packages. [15:35] LeeJunFan: it sounds like you need to set up some video modes for your monitor [15:36] have you tried running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [15:36] Flibberdy: yeah, I just found this too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/141539 [15:36] Launchpad bug 141539 in ubuntu "X fails to start with ATI Radeon 9100 IGP" [Undecided,New] [15:38] LeeJunFan: I used the OnTheEdge drivers to fix my X issues with the new ati driver [15:38] not familiar with OnTheEdge drivers.(?) [15:40] Flibberdy: where can I find more info on that? [15:42] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgOnTheEdge LeeJunFan [15:42] Flibberdy: thanks, I'll look into that. [15:42] how come Bus 001 Device 010: ID 0b05:1706 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. WL-167G 802.11g Adapter [ralink] wont work with the latest rt2x00 drivers, i dont even try to use the card, its like it does not have the pci id for the card or something [15:46] Well, 2.6.24-5-generic is very slightly better, but not much. [15:47] is KDE4 any more stable in hardy? [15:47] DanaG, is -5 released? :D [15:47] it crashes all the time on my gutsy, even when i do something like open Konsole, or Firefox [15:47] DanaG, been waiting on a kernel after the last couple days filling kernel updates [15:47] The separate packages have all been released, but the linux-generic metapackage has not been pointed at them. [15:48] Flibberdy: that did it! Thanks a bunch. Now everything seems so tiny at 1650x1080 compared to 640x480 :) [15:48] DanaG, it has now [15:48] :) [15:48] is the 2.6.24-5 kernel build against the released 2.6.24 kernel? [15:49] ANother weird thing with Hardy: when I enter my password into GDM, it sits there for about 2 to 5 seconds before logging in. [15:49] okay, linux-image-generic now also needs update. [15:49] oh, it has been. [16:02] thx did not know we have a newer kernel verison [16:02] still using -3-server [16:02] -4-server was broken [16:02] lets see if -5 works [16:11] i have hardy [16:12] kewl [16:17] new server kernel is broken as well [16:23] hmm, login and logout sounds are now working after the latest update. Still no sound at the login screen itself though [16:41] what's the proper way for beryl or whatever is the best now, on KDE4? [16:41] link would be fine === bigon` is now known as bigon === bigon is now known as bigon` [16:53] hello could someone send me the repository link? [16:54] YangYin: ? [16:54] YangYin: What repo links? [16:54] yeah [16:55] pici deb http://ubuntu.something.something hardy [16:55] forgot one part: the 'component' [16:55] (as in main, universe, and such) [16:56] YangYin: hardy is on all the repo mirrors. Please see the /topic. [16:57] Pici: so there is no difference between the gutsy fiesty or heron so i could use fiesty? [16:58] why do you hate the topic? [16:58] YangYin: I dont mean to be rude, but if you are confused about this you probably shouldn't be running Hardy. [16:59] Pici: your not rude, thank you for your help though [17:01] pici: sorry i was an idiot didn't see it [17:03] Pici: right under my nose, im sorry. [17:08] btw does it finally make a different if i upgrade trough all the alpha versions or install the final release ? [17:09] no difference--just more breakage along the way :} [17:09] oh :) okay just asking becourse updates never remove anythink [17:10] !final [17:10] If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Hardy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console. === kalpik_ is now known as kalpik [17:12] hi there - firefox is taking 100% cpu for me on the default start page [17:12] in hardy [17:12] the ff beta2 release ? [17:13] no firefox 2.0 [17:13] oh well I could also test the new one [17:13] hm it is shipped with it :) [17:13] hmm [17:14] in help/about it says 2.0.0 [17:15] firefox 3 beta2 is already out..give it a try ;) [17:15] ok but will it use my old config? [17:15] shall I rename it? [17:15] i think it uses the old config [17:15] bookmarks and so [17:16] thank you trying [17:16] hi [17:17] I renamed my old config [17:17] in any case firefox 2 [17:17] with my old config does NOT take 100% cpu [17:17] heya is the -virtual kernel used for xen in hardy? === bigon` is now known as bigon === bmk789 is now known as bmk789_english === bmk789_english is now known as bmk789_english_c === bmk789_english_c is now known as bmk789_class [17:58] anyone else having this problem ?? http://pastebin.com/m28f04405 === bmk789_class is now known as bmk789 [18:08] 64bit version Fspot is working nicely [18:10] Alsa_driver: error on capture pollfd. [18:10] Alsa_driver: stat = fffffffc, xrun of at least 0.072 ms [18:10] 32bit version Fspot still has issues running slideshow [18:57] After I upgraded to Hardy, I can't remote desktop... doesn't anyone know why this is? [18:58] you cant connect to a remote desktop or others can not connect ? === bigon is now known as bigon` [19:00] I ran the upgrade over remote connection [19:00] would that cause a problem? [19:00] oh not necessary but possible [19:01] so you dont have physically access to the machine ? [19:01] I'm at school now, so not until later [19:01] ;-D [19:02] I can ssh though [19:02] the remote desktop and firewall settings appear fine [19:02] so I'm wondering if the server isn't running [19:03] hm maybe there was an configuration problem during the upgrade [19:03] So the question is how to fix it... I'm not sure how to tell if the server is running [19:03] or how to fix it if it's not [19:04] why dont you start that server again over the remote desktop ? [19:05] I'm not sure what ubuntu uses [19:05] it doesn't seem to use vncserver [19:05] it's vino something isn't it? [19:06] my favourite is x11vnc [19:06] if you go into preferences, remote desktop [19:06] it is using a particular server [19:06] I'm not sure what that is [19:07] yeah but there are graphical.. [19:07] yes... but what server do the settings correspond with? [19:07] krfb is the command for that [19:07] what would I run manually? [19:08] krfb .. but you need to configure it graphically [19:08] that's what ubuntu uses for it's vnc server? [19:08] gnome? [19:09] no kde, sry [19:10] for gnome its vino .. === x-spec-t is now known as Spec === nenolod_ is now known as nenolod [20:30] hey [20:31] i installed xorg-driver-fglrx [20:31] but lsmod does not show fglrx [20:31] using hardy of course [20:33] mrbrdo_: make sure you have linux-generic installed (assuming you're using the generic kernel) [20:33] if you do, try sudo modprobe fglrx [20:34] firefox is no longer launched when I try to click a URL on the desktop, and no longer allows me to drop a URL on the desktop. Anyone know if this is a known issue, and if not, where to look for the cause? [20:35] In the latter case, I get "Drag and drop is only supported on local file systems" when trying to drop the URL. [20:36] This broken with a recent update. Was working previously. Nothing found by Google search, so far. [20:36] NoelJB: nautilus has pretty much been rewritten [20:36] to use gio [20:36] so some things are broken :) [20:37] crdlb, :-) I can deal with broken during an alpha. :-) So it is nautilus. Had a feeling. Do you know if this has been opened on launchpad? I'll subscribe to a bug report if one exists. [20:37] I'm sure there is a bug or two about the various regressions :) [20:38] LOL [20:50] crdlb, submitted. I didn't see any dups, but if there is one, I'm sure they'll mark it. [21:00] any of you know of a decent svn gui client? === BlackDiamonds is now known as zoke === zoke is now known as BlackDiamonds === BlackDiamonds is now known as zoke === zoke is now known as BlackDiamonds === BlackDiamonds is now known as zoke === ChaoticMind is now known as ChaoticMind|afk === lakin_ is now known as lakin [21:34] hello, i once more :) [21:35] i have to install glade [21:35] so i typed sudo apt-get install glade [21:35] then, it typed this: [21:35] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53492/ [21:38] 'is another process using it?' [21:38] Any chance of blu-ray support in Hardy? [21:39] fred_2: i didn't run any APT, i just started my comp..- [21:39] do you have autoupdate enabled nope [21:40] it doesnt do anythink only notify me [21:45] is there any known issues with nautilus and gnome-vfs? i cant connect to sftp sites, all i get is Access Denied [21:49] g00d night =) [21:51] there's autoupdate? [21:54] i am surprised how stable this install of xubuntu daily build is, everything just works so far. [21:55] ack [22:01] hi [22:02] i found a missing dependency in anjuta [22:02] g++ should be a dependency because is needed for symbol browser [22:02] plugin [22:04] ...a C++ compiler is necessary? [22:04] it seems [22:04] g++ is already Recommended [22:04] i can't generate the global tags without the g++ compiler [22:05] strange, cpp itself isn't enough? [22:06] i think that no [22:06] i already had cpp installed when i try to generate the tags [22:06] did you try to generate the tags only with cpp? [22:06] you can try to generate them with this command: [22:06] /usr/share/anjuta/scripts/create_global_tags.sh [22:10] is it possible to take a "snapshot" of my system as it is now, before i apply the updates [22:14] sure, with lvm. [22:15] Nexenta does something similar with ZFS. [22:15] and brr, asac's nm 0.7 snap really fscks associating with my encrypted APs. [22:17] where can one find the gobuntu kernel, besides it's install disk? Is it in the repos? [22:18] hmm? [22:18] it's the same base kernel. [22:18] linux-image-2.6.24-5-generic for the desktop image. [22:19] nacho_: I don't have anjuta installed. Can you confirm that g++ is absolutely necessary? [22:20] i'll try it uninstalling it [22:20] nacho_: i.e., removing the 'g++-4.2' package causes the procedure to fail. [22:20] the generic kernel has non free blobs right? [22:20] I was informed that gobuntu has a kernel without those blobs [22:21] thus, not the regular generic kernel? [22:21] Hmm, that would be new to me. Which blobs are missing, then? [22:21] crimsun, yep [22:21] the non-free ones? [22:21] if i uninstall g++ i get lots of warning when i try to generate the tags [22:21] blkorpheus: more precisely. [22:21] nacho_: warnings or errors? [22:22] http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com/msg02804.html [22:22] blkorpheus: the only bits I know offhand that /might/ be suspect are the firmware. [22:22] non-free firmware [22:22] WARNING: Could not create tags file /home/jebe/.anjuta/tags/ORBit-CosNaming-2.0.anjutatags! [22:22] yup [22:22] that kind of warnings [22:23] but i mean if i am going to program with anjuta only with c i don't need to know that i need to have installed g++ to add global tags [22:24] nacho_: right, that's why it's currently an alternative. [22:24] meaning an "alternate dependency" [22:25] blkorpheus: that's still the case, and AFAIK, gobuntu doesn't use a separate one, but I don't mirror their development. [22:25] e.g., cassini.ko is still part of linux. [22:25] and is still shipped in -generic [22:26] nacho_: for that matter, g++ /is/ a Recommended package for anjuta. [22:26] that meta will pull in g++-4.2 [22:26] mmm, strange [22:26] thus, using aptitude or apt-get to install anjuta will take care of that issue. [22:26] yeah, maybe you're right [22:26] yeah, but if i use gnome-devel [22:26] WTF? Gparted thinks my hard drive is unpartitioned. [22:27] i am not going to get that information [22:27] i think [22:27] Well, I'm booted from it, so it must obviously be partitioned... [22:28] DanaG: unless you used lvm on the raw block device. [22:28] Nope. [22:28] I just accidentally did something to my partition table. [22:29] fdisk is fine and testdisk are fine, but cfdisk says: FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 3: Partition ends after end-of-disk [22:29] And gparted is just mysteriously empty. [22:31] eh....I seem to be missing a CPU core..this happened after a few updates yesterday.what's going on here? :P [22:31] hmm? [22:32] I wouldn't even be complaining. 5.9 hasn't been mirrored out yet. [22:32] cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ @ 2.60GHz w/ 1024 KB L2 Cache] [22:32] one core! oh the horror [22:32] like I said, 5.9 is still building. [22:32]