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xivulonI'll have a look00:04
xivulonshall securityfs be skept in umountfs?00:25
xivulonumountfs does not work well, in particular it kills the /host when unmounting /boot00:49
xivulonthat's because /boot is bindmounted and its device is the hostedevice00:50
xivulonwhen unmounted, even if the mountpoint is passed umount as opposed to the device, the umount -f -d arguments seem to be lethal00:51
xivuloncjwatson, evand, comments?00:53
xivulonis passed TO umount00:54
ganeshcjwatson, hai05:15
ganeshcjwatson, i want to talk about the live cum install cd05:26
ganeshcjwatson, i want to talk about the live cum install cd05:47
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CIA-22debian-installer: cjwatson * r871 ubuntu/ (10 files in 4 dirs): * Move to 2.6.24-5 kernels.09:27
xivulonevand, cjwatson did you see my messages yesterday?09:44
xivulonin short we still have issues with umountfs because of the umount flags used09:44
xivulonthe proposed solution is to keep track of both mountpoints and devices in top part of /proc/mounts (above /)09:46
xivulonthen skip the mountpoints that match, and for the devices that match use umount without -f flag09:47
xivulon-f -d09:47
evandxivulon: please send me a patch using diff -u and I'll take a look.09:54
xivulonok09:57
xivulonevand do we need to skip securityfs?10:05
xivulonlike we do for procfs|linprocfs|devfs|sysfs|usbfs|usbdevfs|devpts?10:05
cjwatsonxivulon: re console-setup/layoutcode, en_GB is flat wrong. gb is correct.10:06
cjwatsonthe names correspond to files in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/10:06
xivulonhmm cjwatson I had that both in /proc/cmdline and in preseed but did not see that having any effect in installer/syslog and certainly the layout was us10:22
xivulonlocale instead worked as expected10:22
xivulonwhen I do protected_mounts=$(sed -n '0,/^\/[^ ]* \/ /p' /proc/mounts) the eol is treated differently according to the shell used10:24
xivulonhow do I force eol in there?10:26
cjwatsonxivulon: if it's not working then that sounds like a bug; changing the preseeding would at best be a workaround10:27
xivulonMy first thought was that my preseed was wrong10:29
xivulonsh q: how do I keep end of lines in x=$(cat /proc/mounts) ?10:41
cjwatsonquote it properly: x="$(cat /proc/mounts)"10:45
cjwatsonthe trailing newline at the very end will be stripped (so add it back in as necessary) but not the others10:45
cjwatsonin general in shell, all $ expansions should be surrounded by "" unless you know better10:46
cjwatson(there are some specific cases where they shouldn't be, but those are the exception rather than the rule)10:46
xivuloncjwatson I am trying to do:10:47
xivulonx="$(cat /proc/mounts)";echo $x | grep "^/dev"10:47
cjwatsonecho "$x"10:48
cjwatsonthe quoting rule applies everywhere :)10:48
xivulonah10:48
xivulonevand, cjwatson see if the following will do: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53419/10:52
xivulonhave not tasted it10:52
xivulondiff http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53420/10:52
xivulonops diff is other way around10:54
xivulonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53421/10:55
xivulonteake 3: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53422/10:59
xivulondid not test it though and cannot test until tonight, one issue I can thing of is the umount order is altered11:02
xivulontake 4: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53426/11:15
xivulonthis should preserve the umount order11:16
xivulonagain, I did not taste it, cjwatson, evand, have a look11:16
xivulonevand, cjwatson, another issue I noticed is that the suspend button is correctly hidden in loopinstallations, but the hibernate button is still there11:43
CIA-22ubiquity: evand * r2417 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity-dm debian/changelog): * Add usability support to 'only-ubiquity'.15:07
evandxivulon: if you decide you want to add accessibility support to Wubi, it's as simple on the Ubiquity side as adding access= and a proper code (see casper-bottom/30accessibility) after the -- on the kernel cmdline.15:10
xivulonevand yes absolutely15:21
xivulonI'd say that after we have this working okish (=update-grub+umounhost+no-hibernation+layoutcode-preseeding) I will look into that15:22
xivulonI only need to know what parameters ubiquity takes in that respect and how to fetch the info within windows to decide whether to use those parameters15:23
xivulonumountfs*15:24
xivulonit's v1, v2, v3, m1, m2 correct? Now I only have to find how to map registry keys to that, anyone has any clue?15:29
xivulonhttp://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/bb879984.aspx15:31
xivulonin the link above see HCI profile15:33
xivulonThey have more categories then v/m though.15:34
xivulonmpt what would you suggest about detecting windows accessibility settings and mapping them to ubuntu's?15:35
xivulonI'd go through apps registered as mandatory in Ease of Access Center, and look at their HCI profile:15:37
xivulonmild vision->v2, sever vision->v3, mild_dexterety->m1, severe_dexterety->m215:37
xivulonspeech/hearing/cognitive are ignored15:37
mptxivulon, I'd need to sit down with screenshots of both to give any useful advice on that15:38
xivuloncan you maybe draft a page on how to do said mapping? I know next to nothing on the subject based my  simple proposal only on 2 minutes googling15:40
mptxivulon, ok, report a bug and assign it to me for the design, and I'll reassign it to you when I've attached it15:48
xivulonunder what project?15:52
xivulonI mean it can be either wubi or a branch off migration assistant15:53
xivulonevand what's your take on that?15:53
evandwhy would this be part of migration-assistant?15:55
xivulonif people install off CD, it would be nice to find out existing accessibility settings15:55
xivulonnot sure whether that is provided already15:56
xivulonI assume they have the initial boot options in that case though15:58
xivulonI'll that in wubi then15:58
xivulondo^15:58
evandIt's part of the initial menu.  It occurs to me that I never implemented the migration-assistant defaults seeding.15:59
evandI'm not sure if it would be wise to add accessibility detection to m-a as that fits in with language and timezone selection, but does not have a part of the ubiquity UI like they do.15:59
evandI still think it would be great to have in wubi though.16:00
evandbe it automatically detected or another drop down box.16:00
xivulonmpt, evand bug #18595416:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 185954 in wubi "Detect accessibility settings" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18595416:06
ceekaymy network card is not supported by the modules included in the debian-installer initrd... is there an easy way to unpack the initrd + add in modules + repack?21:08
ceekayin particular i can't seen to mount the initrd as a loopback device and peek inside... complains about you must specify a filesystem type21:15
ceekayis the initrd contained in mini.iso in fact a gzipp'ed ext2 filesystem or something different?21:16
ceekaywell  gzip -dc initrd.gz | cpio -id   seems to do the trick21:24
Michi2test....21:52

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