/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/01/25/#ubuntu-ops.txt

LjLcareful with the falls00:00
Seveaserr, is chanserv dead?00:01
LjLSeveas: my bots all say so00:01
Seveasah, minute lag00:01
naliothyou guys are way lagged00:01
naliothchanserv is right here.00:02
LjLmeh, *now* it is00:02
LjLcan hardly have been a coincidence that it opped us two *and* two bots all at the same time, could it ;)00:02
LjLit's been doing that pretty often today00:02
Jack_SparrowMy first impression is that I dont care for the formatting of the pastebin from canoe...00:03
jribaww00:22
jribupstream development is, lets say, a bit stagnant at the moment00:22
LjLi had that feeling but still00:23
LjLreinventing the wheel and all, you know00:23
jribit became an exercise in learning python after a while and then we all kind of stopped00:24
jriband if I recall, trunk is mostly broken now00:24
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LjLPlautus: you should be able to join #ubuntu now00:25
LjLor #ubuntu-es for support in Spanish00:25
LjLjrib: well still jack might be interested in getting svn access and seeing, if he wants to have that sort of thing00:25
jrib sure, next time he's around I'll talk with him00:26
LjLi imagine it's the sort thing that's not very exciting to write after a while00:27
jribexactly00:27
LjLbut which would still be pretty useful00:27
LjLbut then as long as it's "half working" with a broken truck, it'll never be in main00:28
* LjL would not mind pastebinit/webboard/something working with our pastebin for that matter00:28
jribI don't remember the name, but we found that there was a similar project centered around red hat I think00:29
ubotuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)01:08
ubotuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)01:08
ubotuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)01:08
ubotuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)01:10
ubotuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)01:10
Picihm01:10
naliothlotta einsteins out there01:13
naliothyou'd think they'd know that #ubuntu has a really low ROI01:14
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ubotuburner called the ops in #ubuntu (pammi22)03:18
crdlbchannel spam in #ubuntu03:58
crdlbfrom Ooziz03:58
mneptok!staff04:00
ubotuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)04:00
mneptok^^ see above ^^04:00
naliothsmear campaign04:01
jdonglol that reminds me of The Office for some reason04:01
mneptokapproved by Freenode IRCops!04:01
jdongoh do I miss new episodes :(04:01
mneptok4 out of 5 dentists recommend offtopic flameholes04:02
jdongmneptok: don't you have to wear dental dams before doing that? ;-)04:02
naliothmneptok: it's an approved way to get a kline04:02
mneptoknalioth: :)04:02
mneptokjdong: will you *PLEASE* stop trying to get me to wear a (*^&^$&R dental dam?!??! for God's sake! i wore the (*^^$^%$#& negligee you bought!!!!!04:03
ubotuastro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (arjuna)04:06
soldatsarjuna is trolling04:06
ubotuIn #ubuntu, pg said: !lines is alias enter04:12
ubotuIn ubotu, ardchoille said: rootkit is <reply> A program designed to take fundamental control of a computer system without the authorization of the system's owners and legitimate managers. Decent rootkit scanners are rkhunter and chkrootkit.06:02
kikrPlease check if I am affected by the router bug06:18
naliothkikr: did you fix your equipment as requested?06:18
kikrlast time i was not even affected06:18
naliothlet's see06:24
naliothorly 0_006:24
ubotusoldats called the ops in #ubuntu (wassa)06:49
soldatsanyone around06:50
naliothhi soldats06:57
soldatshey06:57
soldatsdid anyone notice wassa in #ubuntu dropped f-bomb 5 times in one sentence06:58
naliothyeah, i seen it06:58
soldatspersonally im sick of seing that crap06:58
soldatsno offense though06:59
soldatsill go nao06:59
ubotuun_op called the ops in #ubuntu (NehaLeM)08:01
jussi01do we have a factoid anyone knows about that talks about why the latest version of stuff is not in the repos? !wfm is ok, but is there something more specific?08:13
TheSheepmaybe the one about release cycle?08:18
TheSheep!schedule08:18
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases08:18
jussi01Hmmm, not really...08:19
jussi01Im after something that answers: Why isnt xxx program in the repos the latest/one on the website?08:20
ubotuIn ubotu, jussi01 said: !latestkde is <alias>!kde408:23
jussi01is that correct syntax? or should i drop the ! ?08:24
jussi01!latestkde08:29
ubotuThe latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php08:29
ubotuIn ubotu, jussi01 said: !night is <reply>It's the middle of the night in the US or Europe, and surrounds.  This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question.  Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake.  This is particularly true in the quieter channels.08:41
* jussi01 tickles the editors in the channel... 09:56
jussi01Seveas: what are the requirements for editing rights?09:59
ubotujussi01 called the ops in #ubuntu (NehaLeM)10:00
jussi01elkbuntu: morning10:07
jussi01elkbuntu: any chance you could deal with this guy?10:07
jussi01[11:58] < NehaLeM> travisat: You're girl?10:07
jussi01[11:58] < NehaLeM> Fuck you :)10:07
jussi01in #ubuntu?10:07
jussi01he left, but banning would be good imho.10:08
jussi01thanks Tm_T10:14
Tm_Tjussi01: oh, np10:14
Tm_Tubotu no, latestkde is <alias> kde410:15
ubotuYou are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm10:15
Tm_Tmmmmmmgh10:15
jussi01!-kde410:16
ubotukde4 aliases: kde 4 - added by apokryphos on 2006-06-18 20:48:0010:16
Tm_TI failed10:16
* jussi01 hands Tm_T a coffee, then waits for the next attempt10:20
Tm_Tubotu no, kde4 is <alias> latestkde10:21
ubotuI'll remember that Tm_T10:21
Tm_Thmm10:21
Tm_T!kde410:21
ubotuThe latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php10:21
Tm_Tawww10:21
Tm_TI totally ruined it10:21
Tm_Tubotu no, kde4 is <alias> kde 410:21
ubotuYou are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm10:21
Tm_Tubotu no, kde4 is <alias> kde 410:21
Tm_Tubotu no, latestkde is <alias> kde 410:22
jussi01!latestkde10:23
ubotuThe latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php10:23
jussi01hehe10:23
Tm_T!kde410:24
Tm_Tok, that's jammed10:24
jussi01!-kde410:24
ubotukde4 is <alias> latest kde - added by apokryphos on 2006-06-18 20:48:0010:24
jussi01!kde410:24
ubotuThe latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php10:24
Tm_Taye10:24
jussi01nooooo10:24
Tm_T!kde 410:24
ubotuThe latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php10:24
jussi01Tm_T: !kde4 and !latestkde should alias to !kde 410:25
Tm_Tsee?10:25
Tm_TI know10:25
Tm_Tsee what I did10:25
Tm_Tjussi01: you have an old kde4 factoid somewhere?10:26
jussi01!kde 410:26
ubotuThe latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php10:26
jussi01wait10:26
Tm_Tthanks10:26
jussi01KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde410:26
Tm_Tubotu: no, kde4 is <reply> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde410:27
ubotuI'll remember that Tm_T10:27
Tm_Tjussi01: you're welcome10:27
jussi01:) Tm_T thanks10:27
jussi01Tm_T: now you need to alias !latestkde and !kde 4 to !kde410:28
Tm_Taye10:28
jussi01!latestkde10:29
ubotuThe latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php10:29
Tm_Tapparently I keep failing so, I'll give up ;(10:29
jussi01Tm_T: try: ubotu no, latestkde is <alias> kde410:31
Tm_Tjussi01: tried10:41
elkbuntubtw, you guys are aware that i'm conferencing this week, and will be rather unresponsive, right?11:17
jussi01elkbuntu: sorry, wasnt aware of that11:17
elkbuntujussi01, not aimed at you, but i figured it'd be worth mentioning11:17
ikoniaalways good to know11:17
jussi01:)11:17
ikoniawhat conference ?11:17
* jussi01 goes to add to topic... "elkbuntu conferencing this week..."11:18
elkbuntulinux.conf.au11:18
elkbuntujussi01,  only if you want the trolls to celebrate11:18
jussi01lol11:18
ikoniaelkbuntu sounds fantastic11:26
elkbuntuikonia, it is the best community-run FOSS conf in the world :Þ11:33
ikoniathats a good advert11:34
jussi01gday Hobbsee12:02
Hobbseehiya!12:04
PriceChildWho is lastnode then?12:25
jussi01wow, his name isnt the best heh...12:29
ikoniahe looks interesting12:36
Piciodd. people !ohmy-ing over the word crap.12:37
ikoniayet people saying piss and twat in -uk wihtout issue12:39
Piciohmy12:39
jussi01lol12:39
ikoniait's friday, the world is on its head12:39
jussi01!pici12:42
ubotupici is stuck in a factoid factory! Send help!12:42
jussi01Pici: can you fix !latestkde and !kde 4 ?12:43
jussi01!latestkde12:43
ubotuThe latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php12:43
jussi01!kde 412:43
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde412:43
jussi01ahh, that one is fixed12:43
Picijussi01: fix?12:56
PriceChildPosted xkcd's "Appropriate Term" comic on a "trackpad vs trackpoint" discussion on uf and got angry PMs about it :(13:03
ikoniaangry pm's13:04
ikoniaseems a tad harsh13:04
PriceChildwell it does include the words "nipple" and "clit"13:04
PriceChild!-coffee13:30
ubotucoffee has no aliases - added by Tm_T on 2007-11-22 20:49:2113:30
* PriceChild wonders what's with the !java bit to it13:30
PiciIts a joke....13:37
Picijava is another name for coffee13:37
PriceChildahhh gotcha13:42
PiciEver notice that the java logo is a steaming mug?13:42
PriceChildJust tried out the "elisa" media centre thing after seeing the link in #ubuntu, its funky!13:42
PriceChildPici, now it all makes sense!13:42
Hobbseekmos is *not* to be unbanned, under any circumstances from -motu or -devel13:51
Piciroger that.13:53
Hobbseeor -bugs13:53
Hobbseehe's violated his conditions, and he's gone!13:53
PiciMind putting something in the bantracker?13:54
PiciI remember some off the wall things he said during Gutsy's development.13:56
Hobbseeyeah, i'll do that in a bit14:03
Hobbseemotu council has asked him to stop contributing to ubuntu development14:03
jdongHobbsee: does that mean I'll stop getting 10 backport tickets in separate /queries everyday?14:05
Hobbseejdong: oh dear.  ohpefully14:05
jdong$ cat ~/irclogs/FreeNode/kmos* | wc -l14:06
jdong17714:06
* Pici is reading `grep -i kmos ~/irclogs/freenode/*`14:10
PiciGood for inducing a headache.14:11
Jack_SparrowPici: How / where do I get logs for ubuntu..  ?14:14
Pici!logs14:14
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ - See also « /msg ubotu ircstats »14:14
Jack_Sparrowthanks14:14
PiciJack_Sparrow: I just have irssi setup to log everything locally.14:14
* jdong does same as Pici 14:15
jdongit's far more convenient14:15
jdongI guess you can link-scrape complete logs locally too...14:15
Jack_SparrowI just needed to do a little research... nothing important.14:17
ubotuerUSUL called the ops in #ubuntu (THE_MAN_DIGITAL)14:17
Hobbseehe's got 2 addresses, that one14:18
LjLthey're useless though14:19
LjLonly messages are logged14:19
LjLon the other hand yeah, grep is pretty much a headache at times14:19
LjLtalk about striving to defeat the floodbot14:19
LjLJack_Sparrow: what research? i was just going to take some stats from the logs14:19
PiciLjL: I dont think nehalem is savvy enough to be testing the floobots.14:20
LjLnehehehat?14:20
PiciTHE_MAN_DIGITAL = NehaLeM14:21
LjLand who's the latter?14:21
PiciA serial troll.14:21
LjLso serial i never heard the nick14:21
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PiciActuall.. /me makes a better banmask.14:22
PiciSeems hes been banned 3 times already today.14:22
LjLyeah the one i've seen is pretty useless14:22
Hobbsee@btlogin14:30
Seveasjussi01, editing rights where?14:35
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ikoniaheads up on frawubuntu posting movie download links in ubuntu14:55
ikoniaalso talking random nonsense about "smoke packages"14:55
jpatrick!info libsmokeqt4-114:56
ubotulibsmokeqt4-1 (source: libqt4-ruby): Smoke library for Qt4. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.9-4ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2778 kB, installed size 10204 kB14:56
crdlbwe need some troll cleanup in #u :(14:57
ikoniabig time14:57
ikoniacrdlb: cglag your around14:57
Seveasikonia, give me nicknames14:57
Seveasonly frawubuntu?14:57
ikoniay14:57
ikoniaporkpie14:57
ikoniaha ha, quick turn around14:58
ikoniathanks14:58
Seveasikonia, I15:03
Seveas've gotta help a colleague now15:04
SeveasI'll be back in 515:04
ikoniaenjoy15:04
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daviesHobbsee: you might want to -o in -devel16:08
Hobbseethis si true16:09
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PriceChildHmm so it seems ubuntu can't resume from encrypted swap... *finds a patch and starts playing*17:42
daviesheads up on "chuck-norris" got kickbanned from #ubuntu-es and wrote "Don't write this a cry later: sudo rm -rf you-know-what" in #k-es18:03
jdongdavies: roundhouse kickbanned?18:03
jdong(obligatory)18:03
daviesjdong: don't know what he did in #u-es, but I know he flooded it at one point18:04
davies"ircname  : cerdo maldito" - well well well18:04
Piciarg.. the floodbots muted this guy in #ubuntu, and for whatever reason he thinks he can just paste it to me instead.  I wasnt even helping him.20:08
daviesmust of looked at the access list20:09
crdlbI doubt he's that sophisticated :)20:10
Picicrdlb: I was just going to say that.20:10
ubotuIn #ubuntu, juso said: ubotu: thats is an ubuntu based laptop, stop being a douche20:12
crdlb-_-20:13
ikoniaevening gents20:14
ubotuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)20:26
ubotuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)20:26
ubotuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)20:26
tomawugh20:27
Piciugh indeed.20:27
ikoniayeah, someone hitting me20:28
Pici<3 floodbots20:28
naliothIPs all klined20:29
ikoniaquick turn around20:33
daviesikonia: ;)20:48
ikonianice one20:48
LjLaw i missed it :(20:58
LjLtwo people asked for an exploit test, and failed it, and never reasked *sigh*21:00
ikoniagents, keep an eye on menos in ubuntu he was a pain in all the ubuntu channels under the name arrg yesterday hassling people about PS3 stuff21:04
LjLi'm starting to dislike these people taking the "change nick" route instead of the proper "change port" one21:05
ikoniahe's a real pain21:05
ikoniaa little abusive - but nothing major21:05
ikoniajust wants what he wants without any effort and crys to get his own way21:05
LjLPS3 is PPC?21:06
ikoniawas a real pain in ubuntu kubuntu and one other refused to move wot ubuntu-powerpc21:06
ikoniait sure is21:06
LjLi'm not much into the console scene21:06
LjLi'm happy with tetris you see21:07
ikoniaha ha ha21:07
ikoniathe PS3 is a dodgly platform as it runs through a hypervisor21:08
mneptokLjL: yeas, the PS3 uses the IBM Cell PPC line21:08
ikonialook already - thats not any help21:08
ikoniahe's not even read the link21:08
LjLikonia: are you sure we don't support PPC anyway?21:08
LjLit's been demoted to "community supported", yeah21:08
LjLbut we are the community, aren't we21:08
ikoniacommunity release and there is ubuntu-powerpc21:08
ikoniathe PS3 works differnt21:08
ikoniadue to the hypervisor21:09
ikoniano direct hardware access21:09
mneptokikonia: it does have direct hardware access21:09
ikoniamneptok: only through the hypervisor21:10
mneptokikonia: just not to the GPU acceleration21:10
ikoniait's very limited21:10
ikoniacpu access and the like is fine21:10
ikoniamemory runs through the hypervisor I believe21:10
LjLnalioth, guy for you in #ubuntu21:10
ikonianot sure on disk access21:10
naliothwhich one?21:11
ikoniaLjL: your in for hard work he spent 15 minutes telling me that the ia32 package was the correct arch21:11
ikoniasorry wrong channel21:12
FastZ_I was just banned from #ubuntu after being disconnected for being on port 6667, then i changed to port 8001 and joined the #ubuntu channel again and shortly afterwards, I'm banned?  What is the deal?21:16
FastZ_is there something I need to do here?21:17
LjLFastZ_: yes21:17
LjLFastZ_: you could start by not trying to get around the problem by changing your nickname21:18
LjLFastZ_: that is, you could have come here (assuming the instructions didn't work for you) right away, instead of trying to dodge the redirect21:18
FastZ_I didnt21:18
LjLFastZ_: ok, then forget it. have you been unable to change your client to use port 8001?21:19
FastZ_once I changed the port number, and reconnected, I was still connected to freenode on 6667 as FastZ21:19
FastZ_Xchat i guess logged me on freenode on port 8001 as one of the alternate names I configured on here21:19
FastZ_I thought it WAS changed!  I changed it according to the instructions on the site i was directed to, then reconnected to freenode21:20
FastZ_in my network list, on XChat, which I am using, I have the freenode server set to irc.freenode.net/800121:22
FastZ_just as the instructions said to have it21:22
LjLFastZ_, please close XChat and reopen it, and come back here21:22
FastZ_roger that21:22
FastZ_It will log me in as FastZ, not FastZ_ just so you know21:22
FastZ_brb21:22
ikonialjl your on fire21:24
FastZalright, here i am21:24
FastZnow, i am pretty sure i am using port 800121:24
LjLFastZ: yes, you're not vulnerable anymore21:24
FastZwhat was the deal before then?21:24
mneptokFastZ: you might want to investigate ports other than 6667 for other IRC networks you're on.21:24
FastZbecause I'm sure I changed the port number and reconnected21:25
LjLFastZ, you didn't ask for the test after changing the port21:25
LjLyou asked for the test once21:25
LjLand that once, it failed21:25
FastZyeah, it did21:25
FastZbut i had not closed XChat and restarted it21:25
LjLwell, we want to make sure people are not vulnerable21:25
FastZunderstand21:26
FastZbut im good to go now?21:26
LjLyes21:26
FastZgood deal21:26
FastZalright im out21:26
FastZthanks21:26
LjLyou're welcome21:26
ubotuCpudan80 called the ops in #ubuntu (ViniPUHxxxkiss)21:35
dgjonescan i just point out a slightly dodgy nick change in #ubuntu "tuXXXinator_ is now known as rmrf"21:39
Picieh, I think its fine21:39
LjLFYI medibuntu seems a bit down although the site wouldn't make it look so21:42
LjLbeen killed by services =)21:45
LjLrmrf that is21:45
LjLwell i mean not by services21:45
LjLjust nick collided21:45
Picio21:45
Picik21:45
LjLPici:21:46
LjL!enter21:46
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!21:46
LjLdoesn't21:46
LjLapply21:46
LjLto21:46
LjLme21:46
Pici:)21:46
LjLok i think i'll eat my words about bans by nickname being better for exploit victims than bans by hostname21:56
LjLthey all dodge them21:56
PiciYes, its a bit logical.21:57
LjLPici: well i would have thought that since they're not being *banned* but *protected* while they fix the problem, they would not attempt to evade21:57
LjL(while bans on nick would actually help in case their ISP changed them address)21:58
LjLbut i think i was just in the logical fallacy of thinking people had brains21:58
LjLfunny price would just just after i say that21:58
LjLjoin21:58
PiciLjL: tell ubotu about bot21:59
LjLmeeeh... every user i have on highlight has joined #ubuntu - or at least an overly high percentage of them22:00
Picikahrytan? white_eagle?22:00
LjLyeah22:00
pricechildWhat's happenned?22:00
LjLhow could you guess :P22:00
LjLpricechild: nothing :P22:00
pricechildah22:01
LjLwell i would have thought that since they're not being *banned* but *protected* while they fix the problem, they would not attempt to evade22:01
LjL[22:58:04] <LjL> (while bans on nick would actually help in case their ISP changed them address)22:01
LjL[22:58:19] <LjL> but i think i was just in the logical fallacy of thinking people had brains22:01
ubotuPelo called the ops in #ubuntu (poodlesucks)22:53
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ubotuIn ubotu, erUSUL said: rootshell is If you need a "root shell" to do some system work use «sudo -i» with your password. Type exit when you are done.23:38
LjLalready exists23:42
Pici!rootshell23:42
ubotuUsing !sudo with single commands in preferable in most circumstances. However, if you really need a root shell, use « sudo -i » (other variants of this commands are redundant and/or potentially dangerous)23:42
Piciindeed it does.23:43
LjL!rootshell =~ s/in preferable/is preferable/23:43
ubotuI'll remember that LjL23:43
=== Fujitsu__ is now known as Fujitsu
mneptok"sudo su" is fine23:58
* ompaul glares at mneptok 23:59
LjLmneptok: and adds what to "sudo -s"?23:59
jdongLjL: same number of keystrokes23:59
jdongLjL: but it calls pam TWICE23:59
jdongwhich is so much cooler!23:59

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