[00:00] <LjL> careful with the falls
[00:01] <Seveas> err, is chanserv dead?
[00:01] <LjL> Seveas: my bots all say so
[00:01] <Seveas> ah, minute lag
[00:01] <nalioth> you guys are way lagged
[00:02] <nalioth> chanserv is right here.
[00:02] <LjL> meh, *now* it is
[00:02] <LjL> can hardly have been a coincidence that it opped us two *and* two bots all at the same time, could it ;)
[00:02] <LjL> it's been doing that pretty often today
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> My first impression is that I dont care for the formatting of the pastebin from canoe...
[00:22] <jrib> aww
[00:22] <jrib> upstream development is, lets say, a bit stagnant at the moment
[00:23] <LjL> i had that feeling but still
[00:23] <LjL> reinventing the wheel and all, you know
[00:24] <jrib> it became an exercise in learning python after a while and then we all kind of stopped
[00:24] <jrib> and if I recall, trunk is mostly broken now
[00:25] <LjL> Plautus: you should be able to join #ubuntu now
[00:25] <LjL> or #ubuntu-es for support in Spanish
[00:25] <LjL> jrib: well still jack might be interested in getting svn access and seeing, if he wants to have that sort of thing
[00:26] <jrib>  sure, next time he's around I'll talk with him
[00:27] <LjL> i imagine it's the sort thing that's not very exciting to write after a while
[00:27] <jrib> exactly
[00:27] <LjL> but which would still be pretty useful
[00:28] <LjL> but then as long as it's "half working" with a broken truck, it'll never be in main
[00:28]  * LjL would not mind pastebinit/webboard/something working with our pastebin for that matter
[00:29] <jrib> I don't remember the name, but we found that there was a similar project centered around red hat I think
[01:08] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[01:08] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[01:08] <ubotu> FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[01:10] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[01:10] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[01:10] <Pici> hm
[01:13] <nalioth> lotta einsteins out there
[01:14] <nalioth> you'd think they'd know that #ubuntu has a really low ROI
[03:18] <ubotu> burner called the ops in #ubuntu (pammi22)
[03:58] <crdlb> channel spam in #ubuntu
[03:58] <crdlb> from Ooziz
[04:00] <mneptok> !staff
[04:00] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)
[04:00] <mneptok> ^^ see above ^^
[04:01] <nalioth> smear campaign
[04:01] <jdong> lol that reminds me of The Office for some reason
[04:01] <mneptok> approved by Freenode IRCops!
[04:01] <jdong> oh do I miss new episodes :(
[04:02] <mneptok> 4 out of 5 dentists recommend offtopic flameholes
[04:02] <jdong> mneptok: don't you have to wear dental dams before doing that? ;-)
[04:02] <nalioth> mneptok: it's an approved way to get a kline
[04:02] <mneptok> nalioth: :)
[04:03] <mneptok> jdong: will you *PLEASE* stop trying to get me to wear a (*^&^$&R dental dam?!??! for God's sake! i wore the (*^^$^%$#& negligee you bought!!!!!
[04:06] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (arjuna)
[04:06] <soldats> arjuna is trolling
[04:12] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, pg said: !lines is alias enter
[06:02] <ubotu> In ubotu, ardchoille said: rootkit is <reply> A program designed to take fundamental control of a computer system without the authorization of the system's owners and legitimate managers. Decent rootkit scanners are rkhunter and chkrootkit.
[06:18] <kikr> Please check if I am affected by the router bug
[06:18] <nalioth> kikr: did you fix your equipment as requested?
[06:18] <kikr> last time i was not even affected
[06:24] <nalioth> let's see
[06:24] <nalioth> orly 0_0
[06:49] <ubotu> soldats called the ops in #ubuntu (wassa)
[06:50] <soldats> anyone around
[06:57] <nalioth> hi soldats
[06:57] <soldats> hey
[06:58] <soldats> did anyone notice wassa in #ubuntu dropped f-bomb 5 times in one sentence
[06:58] <nalioth> yeah, i seen it
[06:58] <soldats> personally im sick of seing that crap
[06:59] <soldats> no offense though
[06:59] <soldats> ill go nao
[08:01] <ubotu> un_op called the ops in #ubuntu (NehaLeM)
[08:13] <jussi01> do we have a factoid anyone knows about that talks about why the latest version of stuff is not in the repos? !wfm is ok, but is there something more specific?
[08:18] <TheSheep> maybe the one about release cycle?
[08:18] <TheSheep> !schedule
[08:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[08:19] <jussi01> Hmmm, not really...
[08:20] <jussi01> Im after something that answers: Why isnt xxx program in the repos the latest/one on the website?
[08:23] <ubotu> In ubotu, jussi01 said: !latestkde is <alias>!kde4
[08:24] <jussi01> is that correct syntax? or should i drop the ! ?
[08:29] <jussi01> !latestkde
[08:29] <ubotu> The latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[08:41] <ubotu> In ubotu, jussi01 said: !night is <reply>It's the middle of the night in the US or Europe, and surrounds.  This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question.  Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake.  This is particularly true in the quieter channels.
[09:56]  * jussi01 tickles the editors in the channel... 
[09:59] <jussi01> Seveas: what are the requirements for editing rights?
[10:00] <ubotu> jussi01 called the ops in #ubuntu (NehaLeM)
[10:07] <jussi01> elkbuntu: morning
[10:07] <jussi01> elkbuntu: any chance you could deal with this guy?
[10:07] <jussi01> [11:58] < NehaLeM> travisat: You're girl?
[10:07] <jussi01> [11:58] < NehaLeM> Fuck you :)
[10:07] <jussi01> in #ubuntu?
[10:08] <jussi01> he left, but banning would be good imho.
[10:14] <jussi01> thanks Tm_T
[10:14] <Tm_T> jussi01: oh, np
[10:15] <Tm_T> ubotu no, latestkde is <alias> kde4
[10:15] <ubotu> You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm
[10:15] <Tm_T> mmmmmmgh
[10:16] <jussi01> !-kde4
[10:16] <ubotu> kde4 aliases: kde 4 - added by apokryphos on 2006-06-18 20:48:00
[10:16] <Tm_T> I failed
[10:20]  * jussi01 hands Tm_T a coffee, then waits for the next attempt
[10:21] <Tm_T> ubotu no, kde4 is <alias> latestkde
[10:21] <ubotu> I'll remember that Tm_T
[10:21] <Tm_T> hmm
[10:21] <Tm_T> !kde4
[10:21] <ubotu> The latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[10:21] <Tm_T> awww
[10:21] <Tm_T> I totally ruined it
[10:21] <Tm_T> ubotu no, kde4 is <alias> kde 4
[10:21] <ubotu> You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm
[10:21] <Tm_T> ubotu no, kde4 is <alias> kde 4
[10:22] <Tm_T> ubotu no, latestkde is <alias> kde 4
[10:23] <jussi01> !latestkde
[10:23] <ubotu> The latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[10:23] <jussi01> hehe
[10:24] <Tm_T> !kde4
[10:24] <Tm_T> ok, that's jammed
[10:24] <jussi01> !-kde4
[10:24] <ubotu> kde4 is <alias> latest kde - added by apokryphos on 2006-06-18 20:48:00
[10:24] <jussi01> !kde4
[10:24] <ubotu> The latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[10:24] <Tm_T> aye
[10:24] <jussi01> nooooo
[10:24] <Tm_T> !kde 4
[10:24] <ubotu> The latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[10:25] <jussi01> Tm_T: !kde4 and !latestkde should alias to !kde 4
[10:25] <Tm_T> see?
[10:25] <Tm_T> I know
[10:25] <Tm_T> see what I did
[10:26] <Tm_T> jussi01: you have an old kde4 factoid somewhere?
[10:26] <jussi01> !kde 4
[10:26] <ubotu> The latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[10:26] <jussi01> wait
[10:26] <Tm_T> thanks
[10:26] <jussi01> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[10:27] <Tm_T> ubotu: no, kde4 is <reply> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[10:27] <ubotu> I'll remember that Tm_T
[10:27] <Tm_T> jussi01: you're welcome
[10:27] <jussi01> :) Tm_T thanks
[10:28] <jussi01> Tm_T: now you need to alias !latestkde and !kde 4 to !kde4
[10:28] <Tm_T> aye
[10:29] <jussi01> !latestkde
[10:29] <ubotu> The latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[10:29] <Tm_T> apparently I keep failing so, I'll give up ;(
[10:31] <jussi01> Tm_T: try: ubotu no, latestkde is <alias> kde4
[10:41] <Tm_T> jussi01: tried
[11:17] <elkbuntu> btw, you guys are aware that i'm conferencing this week, and will be rather unresponsive, right?
[11:17] <jussi01> elkbuntu: sorry, wasnt aware of that
[11:17] <elkbuntu> jussi01, not aimed at you, but i figured it'd be worth mentioning
[11:17] <ikonia> always good to know
[11:17] <jussi01> :)
[11:17] <ikonia> what conference ?
[11:18]  * jussi01 goes to add to topic... "elkbuntu conferencing this week..."
[11:18] <elkbuntu> linux.conf.au
[11:18] <elkbuntu> jussi01,  only if you want the trolls to celebrate
[11:18] <jussi01> lol
[11:26] <ikonia> elkbuntu sounds fantastic
[11:33] <elkbuntu> ikonia, it is the best community-run FOSS conf in the world :Þ
[11:34] <ikonia> thats a good advert
[12:02] <jussi01> gday Hobbsee
[12:04] <Hobbsee> hiya!
[12:25] <PriceChild> Who is lastnode then?
[12:29] <jussi01> wow, his name isnt the best heh...
[12:36] <ikonia> he looks interesting
[12:37] <Pici> odd. people !ohmy-ing over the word crap.
[12:39] <ikonia> yet people saying piss and twat in -uk wihtout issue
[12:39] <Pici> ohmy
[12:39] <jussi01> lol
[12:39] <ikonia> it's friday, the world is on its head
[12:42] <jussi01> !pici
[12:42] <ubotu> pici is stuck in a factoid factory! Send help!
[12:43] <jussi01> Pici: can you fix !latestkde and !kde 4 ?
[12:43] <jussi01> !latestkde
[12:43] <ubotu> The latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[12:43] <jussi01> !kde 4
[12:43] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[12:43] <jussi01> ahh, that one is fixed
[12:56] <Pici> jussi01: fix?
[13:03] <PriceChild> Posted xkcd's "Appropriate Term" comic on a "trackpad vs trackpoint" discussion on uf and got angry PMs about it :(
[13:04] <ikonia> angry pm's
[13:04] <ikonia> seems a tad harsh
[13:04] <PriceChild> well it does include the words "nipple" and "clit"
[13:30] <PriceChild> !-coffee
[13:30] <ubotu> coffee has no aliases - added by Tm_T on 2007-11-22 20:49:21
[13:30]  * PriceChild wonders what's with the !java bit to it
[13:37] <Pici> Its a joke....
[13:37] <Pici> java is another name for coffee
[13:42] <PriceChild> ahhh gotcha
[13:42] <Pici> Ever notice that the java logo is a steaming mug?
[13:42] <PriceChild> Just tried out the "elisa" media centre thing after seeing the link in #ubuntu, its funky!
[13:42] <PriceChild> Pici, now it all makes sense!
[13:51] <Hobbsee> kmos is *not* to be unbanned, under any circumstances from -motu or -devel
[13:53] <Pici> roger that.
[13:53] <Hobbsee> or -bugs
[13:53] <Hobbsee> he's violated his conditions, and he's gone!
[13:54] <Pici> Mind putting something in the bantracker?
[13:56] <Pici> I remember some off the wall things he said during Gutsy's development.
[14:03] <Hobbsee> yeah, i'll do that in a bit
[14:03] <Hobbsee> motu council has asked him to stop contributing to ubuntu development
[14:05] <jdong> Hobbsee: does that mean I'll stop getting 10 backport tickets in separate /queries everyday?
[14:05] <Hobbsee> jdong: oh dear.  ohpefully
[14:06] <jdong> $ cat ~/irclogs/FreeNode/kmos* | wc -l
[14:06] <jdong> 177
[14:10]  * Pici is reading `grep -i kmos ~/irclogs/freenode/*`
[14:11] <Pici> Good for inducing a headache.
[14:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Pici: How / where do I get logs for ubuntu..  ?
[14:14] <Pici> !logs
[14:14] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ - See also « /msg ubotu ircstats »
[14:14] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[14:14] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: I just have irssi setup to log everything locally.
[14:15]  * jdong does same as Pici 
[14:15] <jdong> it's far more convenient
[14:15] <jdong> I guess you can link-scrape complete logs locally too...
[14:17] <Jack_Sparrow> I just needed to do a little research... nothing important.
[14:17] <ubotu> erUSUL called the ops in #ubuntu (THE_MAN_DIGITAL)
[14:18] <Hobbsee> he's got 2 addresses, that one
[14:19] <LjL> they're useless though
[14:19] <LjL> only messages are logged
[14:19] <LjL> on the other hand yeah, grep is pretty much a headache at times
[14:19] <LjL> talk about striving to defeat the floodbot
[14:19] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow: what research? i was just going to take some stats from the logs
[14:20] <Pici> LjL: I dont think nehalem is savvy enough to be testing the floobots.
[14:20] <LjL> nehehehat?
[14:21] <Pici> THE_MAN_DIGITAL = NehaLeM
[14:21] <LjL> and who's the latter?
[14:21] <Pici> A serial troll.
[14:21] <LjL> so serial i never heard the nick
[14:22] <Pici> Actuall.. /me makes a better banmask.
[14:22] <Pici> Seems hes been banned 3 times already today.
[14:22] <LjL> yeah the one i've seen is pretty useless
[14:30] <Hobbsee> @btlogin
[14:35] <Seveas> jussi01, editing rights where?
[14:55] <ikonia> heads up on frawubuntu posting movie download links in ubuntu
[14:55] <ikonia> also talking random nonsense about "smoke packages"
[14:56] <jpatrick> !info libsmokeqt4-1
[14:56] <ubotu> libsmokeqt4-1 (source: libqt4-ruby): Smoke library for Qt4. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.9-4ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2778 kB, installed size 10204 kB
[14:57] <crdlb> we need some troll cleanup in #u :(
[14:57] <ikonia> big time
[14:57] <ikonia> crdlb: cglag your around
[14:57] <Seveas> ikonia, give me nicknames
[14:57] <Seveas> only frawubuntu?
[14:57] <ikonia> y
[14:57] <ikonia> porkpie
[14:58] <ikonia> ha ha, quick turn around
[14:58] <ikonia> thanks
[15:03] <Seveas> ikonia, I
[15:04] <Seveas> 've gotta help a colleague now
[15:04] <Seveas> I'll be back in 5
[15:04] <ikonia> enjoy
[16:08] <davies> Hobbsee: you might want to -o in -devel
[16:09] <Hobbsee> this si true
[17:42] <PriceChild> Hmm so it seems ubuntu can't resume from encrypted swap... *finds a patch and starts playing*
[18:03] <davies> heads up on "chuck-norris" got kickbanned from #ubuntu-es and wrote "Don't write this a cry later: sudo rm -rf you-know-what" in #k-es
[18:03] <jdong> davies: roundhouse kickbanned?
[18:03] <jdong> (obligatory)
[18:04] <davies> jdong: don't know what he did in #u-es, but I know he flooded it at one point
[18:04] <davies> "ircname  : cerdo maldito" - well well well
[20:08] <Pici> arg.. the floodbots muted this guy in #ubuntu, and for whatever reason he thinks he can just paste it to me instead.  I wasnt even helping him.
[20:09] <davies> must of looked at the access list
[20:10] <crdlb> I doubt he's that sophisticated :)
[20:10] <Pici> crdlb: I was just going to say that.
[20:12] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, juso said: ubotu: thats is an ubuntu based laptop, stop being a douche
[20:13] <crdlb> -_-
[20:14] <ikonia> evening gents
[20:26] <ubotu> FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[20:26] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[20:26] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[20:27] <tomaw> ugh
[20:27] <Pici> ugh indeed.
[20:28] <ikonia> yeah, someone hitting me
[20:28] <Pici> <3 floodbots
[20:29] <nalioth> IPs all klined
[20:33] <ikonia> quick turn around
[20:48] <davies> ikonia: ;)
[20:48] <ikonia> nice one
[20:58] <LjL> aw i missed it :(
[21:00] <LjL> two people asked for an exploit test, and failed it, and never reasked *sigh*
[21:04] <ikonia> gents, keep an eye on menos in ubuntu he was a pain in all the ubuntu channels under the name arrg yesterday hassling people about PS3 stuff
[21:05] <LjL> i'm starting to dislike these people taking the "change nick" route instead of the proper "change port" one
[21:05] <ikonia> he's a real pain
[21:05] <ikonia> a little abusive - but nothing major
[21:05] <ikonia> just wants what he wants without any effort and crys to get his own way
[21:06] <LjL> PS3 is PPC?
[21:06] <ikonia> was a real pain in ubuntu kubuntu and one other refused to move wot ubuntu-powerpc
[21:06] <ikonia> it sure is
[21:06] <LjL> i'm not much into the console scene
[21:07] <LjL> i'm happy with tetris you see
[21:07] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[21:08] <ikonia> the PS3 is a dodgly platform as it runs through a hypervisor
[21:08] <mneptok> LjL: yeas, the PS3 uses the IBM Cell PPC line
[21:08] <ikonia> look already - thats not any help
[21:08] <ikonia> he's not even read the link
[21:08] <LjL> ikonia: are you sure we don't support PPC anyway?
[21:08] <LjL> it's been demoted to "community supported", yeah
[21:08] <LjL> but we are the community, aren't we
[21:08] <ikonia> community release and there is ubuntu-powerpc
[21:08] <ikonia> the PS3 works differnt
[21:09] <ikonia> due to the hypervisor
[21:09] <ikonia> no direct hardware access
[21:09] <mneptok> ikonia: it does have direct hardware access
[21:10] <ikonia> mneptok: only through the hypervisor
[21:10] <mneptok> ikonia: just not to the GPU acceleration
[21:10] <ikonia> it's very limited
[21:10] <ikonia> cpu access and the like is fine
[21:10] <ikonia> memory runs through the hypervisor I believe
[21:10] <LjL> nalioth, guy for you in #ubuntu
[21:10] <ikonia> not sure on disk access
[21:11] <nalioth> which one?
[21:11] <ikonia> LjL: your in for hard work he spent 15 minutes telling me that the ia32 package was the correct arch
[21:12] <ikonia> sorry wrong channel
[21:16] <FastZ_> I was just banned from #ubuntu after being disconnected for being on port 6667, then i changed to port 8001 and joined the #ubuntu channel again and shortly afterwards, I'm banned?  What is the deal?
[21:17] <FastZ_> is there something I need to do here?
[21:17] <LjL> FastZ_: yes
[21:18] <LjL> FastZ_: you could start by not trying to get around the problem by changing your nickname
[21:18] <LjL> FastZ_: that is, you could have come here (assuming the instructions didn't work for you) right away, instead of trying to dodge the redirect
[21:18] <FastZ_> I didnt
[21:19] <LjL> FastZ_: ok, then forget it. have you been unable to change your client to use port 8001?
[21:19] <FastZ_> once I changed the port number, and reconnected, I was still connected to freenode on 6667 as FastZ
[21:19] <FastZ_> Xchat i guess logged me on freenode on port 8001 as one of the alternate names I configured on here
[21:20] <FastZ_> I thought it WAS changed!  I changed it according to the instructions on the site i was directed to, then reconnected to freenode
[21:22] <FastZ_> in my network list, on XChat, which I am using, I have the freenode server set to irc.freenode.net/8001
[21:22] <FastZ_> just as the instructions said to have it
[21:22] <LjL> FastZ_, please close XChat and reopen it, and come back here
[21:22] <FastZ_> roger that
[21:22] <FastZ_> It will log me in as FastZ, not FastZ_ just so you know
[21:22] <FastZ_> brb
[21:24] <ikonia> ljl your on fire
[21:24] <FastZ> alright, here i am
[21:24] <FastZ> now, i am pretty sure i am using port 8001
[21:24] <LjL> FastZ: yes, you're not vulnerable anymore
[21:24] <FastZ> what was the deal before then?
[21:24] <mneptok> FastZ: you might want to investigate ports other than 6667 for other IRC networks you're on.
[21:25] <FastZ> because I'm sure I changed the port number and reconnected
[21:25] <LjL> FastZ, you didn't ask for the test after changing the port
[21:25] <LjL> you asked for the test once
[21:25] <LjL> and that once, it failed
[21:25] <FastZ> yeah, it did
[21:25] <FastZ> but i had not closed XChat and restarted it
[21:25] <LjL> well, we want to make sure people are not vulnerable
[21:26] <FastZ> understand
[21:26] <FastZ> but im good to go now?
[21:26] <LjL> yes
[21:26] <FastZ> good deal
[21:26] <FastZ> alright im out
[21:26] <FastZ> thanks
[21:26] <LjL> you're welcome
[21:35] <ubotu> Cpudan80 called the ops in #ubuntu (ViniPUHxxxkiss)
[21:39] <dgjones> can i just point out a slightly dodgy nick change in #ubuntu "tuXXXinator_ is now known as rmrf"
[21:39] <Pici> eh, I think its fine
[21:42] <LjL> FYI medibuntu seems a bit down although the site wouldn't make it look so
[21:45] <LjL> been killed by services =)
[21:45] <LjL> rmrf that is
[21:45] <LjL> well i mean not by services
[21:45] <LjL> just nick collided
[21:45] <Pici> o
[21:45] <Pici> k
[21:46] <LjL> Pici:
[21:46] <LjL> !enter
[21:46] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:46] <LjL> doesn't
[21:46] <LjL> apply
[21:46] <LjL> to
[21:46] <LjL> me
[21:46] <Pici> :)
[21:56] <LjL> ok i think i'll eat my words about bans by nickname being better for exploit victims than bans by hostname
[21:56] <LjL> they all dodge them
[21:57] <Pici> Yes, its a bit logical.
[21:57] <LjL> Pici: well i would have thought that since they're not being *banned* but *protected* while they fix the problem, they would not attempt to evade
[21:58] <LjL> (while bans on nick would actually help in case their ISP changed them address)
[21:58] <LjL> but i think i was just in the logical fallacy of thinking people had brains
[21:58] <LjL> funny price would just just after i say that
[21:58] <LjL> join
[21:59] <Pici> LjL: tell ubotu about bot
[22:00] <LjL> meeeh... every user i have on highlight has joined #ubuntu - or at least an overly high percentage of them
[22:00] <Pici> kahrytan? white_eagle?
[22:00] <LjL> yeah
[22:00] <pricechild> What's happenned?
[22:00] <LjL> how could you guess :P
[22:00] <LjL> pricechild: nothing :P
[22:01] <pricechild> ah
[22:01] <LjL> well i would have thought that since they're not being *banned* but *protected* while they fix the problem, they would not attempt to evade
[22:01] <LjL> [22:58:04] <LjL> (while bans on nick would actually help in case their ISP changed them address)
[22:01] <LjL> [22:58:19] <LjL> but i think i was just in the logical fallacy of thinking people had brains
[22:53] <ubotu> Pelo called the ops in #ubuntu (poodlesucks)
[23:38] <ubotu> In ubotu, erUSUL said: rootshell is If you need a "root shell" to do some system work use «sudo -i» with your password. Type exit when you are done.
[23:42] <LjL> already exists
[23:42] <Pici> !rootshell
[23:42] <ubotu> Using !sudo with single commands in preferable in most circumstances. However, if you really need a root shell, use « sudo -i » (other variants of this commands are redundant and/or potentially dangerous)
[23:43] <Pici> indeed it does.
[23:43] <LjL> !rootshell =~ s/in preferable/is preferable/
[23:43] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[23:58] <mneptok> "sudo su" is fine
[23:59]  * ompaul glares at mneptok 
[23:59] <LjL> mneptok: and adds what to "sudo -s"?
[23:59] <jdong> LjL: same number of keystrokes
[23:59] <jdong> LjL: but it calls pam TWICE
[23:59] <jdong> which is so much cooler!