[00:00] <Ayabara> Dioxin: been there done that :-)
[00:00] <Ayabara> Missing something else here as well. When I have headphones in my laptop, I think that master volume should control that, but it doesn't
[00:00] <Ayabara> oh well, guess I'll tweak this more tomorrow. good night :-)
[00:11] <feelerMr> how do i list channels
[00:11] <nosrednaekim>  /list
[00:12] <feelerMr> thanks
[00:20] <noaXess> !3gp
[00:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:20] <noaXess> hi all
[00:21] <noaXess> i have 3gp video files.. is there any tool to convert it to avi?
[00:21] <grul> !3gp
[00:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:22] <grul> noaXess, Try 'ffmpeg -i input.3gp output.avi'.  Then look at the manpage for
[00:22] <grul> tweaking the output (size, bitrate, codecs etc.).
[00:22] <grul> (source: some random google result)
[00:23] <noaXess> grul: okay :)
[00:23] <grul> :p
[00:24] <grul> so i guess ffmpeg does it, i'm not sure how
[00:25] <Dr_willis> well the default ffmpeg for ubuntu may not have support for all the file types
[00:25] <Dr_willis> !find avid
[00:25] <ubotu> Found: avida-base, avida-qt-viewer, avida-viewer, sword-comm-tdavid, avidemux
[00:25] <Dr_willis> avidemux  is a nice front end that can proberly convert them.
[00:25] <jel> noaXess: there are scripts around which convert the other way... I think on kde-apps.org, as a konqueror service menu.  Should be able to just swap the direction.
[00:26] <noaXess> Dr_willis: okay..
[00:27] <jase_> hello all
[00:28] <TheWhiteRook> I've got one of those font problems in which fonts are huge...
[00:35] <davi_> a alguem de pernambuco aki
[00:38] <HighDensity> Bo
[00:38] <Dr_willis> Moo!
[00:39] <grul> !gutsy
[00:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[00:41] <noaXess> Dr_willis: are you really shure that avidemux can convert 3gp to avi?
[00:41] <noaXess> i can open the 3gp file.. but can't find any converting function
[00:42] <Dr_willis> noaXess,  IF the ffmpeg that comes with ubuntu - supports it. it Might be able to
[00:43] <Dr_willis> the ffmpeg binaries (or others in ubuntu) dont alwyas have all the latest video format supports compiled in for legal reasons I think
[00:43] <Dr_willis> Open it. save it under another format. - Youmean to say you cant figure out how to use avidmux?
[00:43] <noaXess> ffmpeg -i Video_012608_001.3gp -ar 44100 Video_012608_001.avi means unsupported codec for input
[00:43] <jel> noaXess: I think the commands I  saw for it used some combination of mencoder and ffmpeg
[00:44] <jel> noaXess: but again, look on kde-apps.org
[00:44] <Dr_willis> sounds like your ffmpeg does not have support for 3gp then
[00:44] <noaXess> okay
[00:45] <Dr_willis> FFmpeg version SVN-r11107, Copyright (c) 2000-2007 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
[00:45] <Dr_willis>   configuration: --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libtheora --enable-liba52 --enable-libx264 --enable-libgsm --enable-pp --enable-libxvid --enable-libfaac --enable-pthreads --enable-libvorbis --enable-libfaad --enable-gpl --enable-x11grab
[00:45] <Dr_willis> i compuled mine from cvs a few weeks ago.
[00:45] <Dr_willis> What uses 3gp anyway?
[00:47] <HighDensity> phones
[00:47] <HighDensity> my old sony erikson saved video files as 3gp
[00:48] <Dr_willis> Im watching videos at work on my Gameboy DS. it uses .DPG or somthing. :P
[00:48] <Dr_willis> we need more video formats!
[00:48] <Dr_willis> 30 min  show = about 50mb on that thing.
[00:49] <Dr_willis> i got a gp32 that runs linux. :) it can do xvid.
[00:49] <Dr_willis> but its only got a 2 hr battey life.
[00:49] <jel> I got a book that can do about four weeks ;)
[00:49] <Dr_willis> The DS has like 9+ hrs battery when wathing videos.
[00:50] <Dr_willis> I  keep looking for a decent Linux based Video player.. but not seen any yet.
[00:50] <jel> Dr_willis: they sound half decent.  What's the res?
[00:50] <Dr_willis> I want an Asuse EEE.
[00:50] <Dr_willis> jel,  gp32 is.. Hmm 320x240 i think.  EEE is like 2x that.
[00:51] <Dr_willis> DS is - Not sure.. proberly 320x240 also.
[00:51] <jel> Dr_willis: and the DPGs actually use that full res?
[00:51] <Dr_willis> not sure. They do look very good however. :)
[00:51] <jel> cool :)
[00:51] <Dr_willis> got a tool for windows thats a front end to make the dpg's
[00:51] <Dr_willis> its using ffmpeg in the back end i thinlk
[00:52] <HighDensity> dr willis, do you have linux running on your ds?
[00:53] <Dr_willis> HighDensity,  nope. Just a  proberly not legal Cartridge that supports MicroSD cards. :)
[00:53] <Dr_willis> But im just using it to play videos.. so that might be legal.. almost. heh
[00:53] <HighDensity> lol
[00:54] <HighDensity> i heard linux woks on the ds, but i just wanna know how easy that would be, as i have on lying around doing nothing :P
[00:54] <Dr_willis>  I cant think of anything I would do on the DS wth linux. :)
[00:54] <Dr_willis> This little R4 cartrige i got lets me play videos, roms, and homebrew stuff
[00:55] <HighDensity> i work near a free wifi spot, internet access lol
[00:55] <Dr_willis> ive heard the DS wifi can be veyr very very picky
[00:55] <Dr_willis> There is supposed tobe Opera for the Ds comming out soon.
[00:56] <HighDensity> i love opera
[00:56] <HighDensity> the best imo
[00:56] <Dr_willis> I use it on my Wii
[00:56] <Dr_willis> but thats about it. I got to many extensions I like for firefox
[01:01] <noaXess> for ffmpeg i need to enable amr_nb and amr_wb... how can i do that with the installed package from adept?
[01:02] <noaXess> !find amr
[01:02] <ubotu> Found: amrita, hamradiomenus, kstreamripper, libamrita-ruby1.8, streamripper
[01:02] <riyaadh> yo, any1 know how install .tar.gz themes?
[01:03] <riyaadh> im new 2 kubuntu
[01:03] <noaXess> riyaadh: like any other linux distribution.. just extract it with ark. or right click.. and then read install instructions :)
[01:03] <noaXess> !ark
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <swatto> hello all
[01:08] <HighDensity> hi
[01:09] <swatto> im extremely new to linux and managed to get my WUSB54GS adapter working today.  But just wondered if anyone knew anything about compiling/installing GIMP? as the guides are really hard to understand for me
[01:10] <Dr_willis> Why do you need to compile?
[01:10] <Dr_willis> its in the repos
[01:10] <Dr_willis> !info gimp
[01:10] <ubotu> gimp (source: gimp): The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu0.7.10.1 (gutsy), package size 3805 kB, installed size 10488 kB
[01:10] <swatto> it is?
[01:10] <Dr_willis> Yes :)
[01:10] <Dr_willis> has been for years.
[01:10] <swatto> ah cool thanks :D
[01:11] <HighDensity> i installed gnome, as gimp comes with it, as i like to have different gui's (that way it's all done for you) :P
[01:11] <swatto> can i install gnome instead of KDE?
[01:12] <HighDensity> you can have both
[01:12] <riyaadh> there is no instruction
[01:12] <HighDensity> and select which one you want to use before you login
[01:12] <swatto> cool, i can install from software or repos?
[01:13] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. repos are software :)
[01:13] <Dr_willis> You an install 'ubuntu-desktop' to have kubuntu and ubuntu both on the same machine
[01:15] <swatto> in repos i have: gimp-dbg, libgimp2.0 libgimp2.0-dev libgimp2.0-doc
[01:16] <swatto> hmm i go to Adept Installer and GIMP Image Editor is greyed out
[01:16] <HighDensity> is it already installed?
[01:17] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install gimp
[01:17] <Dr_willis> and see what it says
[01:18] <swatto> Reading package lists... Done
[01:18] <swatto> Building dependency tree
[01:18] <swatto> Reading state information... Done
[01:18] <swatto> Package gimp is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:18] <swatto> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:18] <swatto> is only available from another source
[01:18] <swatto> E: Package gimp has no installation candidate
[01:19] <Dr_willis> update, upgrade and try again
[01:19] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get update
[01:19] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:19] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install gimp
[01:20] <swatto> same message :(
[01:20] <swatto> Ign cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/main Translation-en_GB
[01:20] <swatto> Ign cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/restricted Translation-en_GB
[01:20] <swatto> Reading package lists... Done
[01:20] <swatto> swatto@Swatto-Desktop:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:20] <Dr_willis> You proberly should remove the cd from your reposotitres
[01:20] <swatto> Reading package lists... Done
[01:20] <swatto> Building dependency tree
[01:20] <swatto> Reading state information... Done
[01:20] <swatto> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:20] <swatto> swatto@Swatto-Desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install gimp
[01:20] <swatto> Reading package lists... Done
[01:20] <swatto> Building dependency tree
[01:20] <swatto> Reading state information... Done
[01:20] <swatto> how do i do that?
[01:20] <swatto> please
[01:21] <Dr_willis> theres a sources manager icon in the menus some where
[01:21] <Dr_willis> or edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file  and # comment out the cd. or delete the cdrom line.
[01:22] <phoenixz> argh.. I need to shut off a service without uninstalling that service.. there is NO chkconfig! How do i disable the starting of a service for a specific (and ALL) runlevels??
[01:23] <Dr_willis> theres other sysv config tools.
[01:24] <Dr_willis> Ubunt dosent use the runlevels like othe rdisrtos normally do. I recall.
[01:24] <Chase-san> Heya, is tehre a list of fundamental differences between the dvd version and the cd version of 7.1?
[01:24] <Chase-san> (other then the dvd one takes more space)
[01:24] <Dr_willis> Chase-san,  i would say stick with the cd.     I think theres more packages ON the dvd. but most are not installed by default
[01:25] <Chase-san> just checking
[01:25] <phoenixz> !chkconfig
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chkconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <Chase-san> I was planning to replace vista with kubuntu on my soon to be arriving laptop
[01:25] <posingaspopular> !paste | swatto
[01:25] <ubotu> swatto: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:26] <Dr_willis> i recall some kde sysv config tool. It may not be installed by default however
[01:26] <Dr_willis> !find sysv
[01:26] <ubotu> Found: sysv-rc, sysvinit, sysvutils, upstart-compat-sysv, ksysv (and 5 others)
[01:26] <Dr_willis> !info ksysv
[01:26] <ubotu> ksysv (source: kdeadmin): KDE SysV-style init configuration editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 168 kB, installed size 640 kB
[01:27] <swatto> hmm looks like the whole file has been commented out dr willis - installer commented it out because failed to verify
[01:27] <swatto> i think because i didnt have internet access before hand or something?
[01:31] <swatto> anything else i can do?
[01:32] <Dr_willis> use that sources config tool in the menus
[01:33] <swatto> cant find it there any idea whats its called?
[01:33] <Dr_willis> nope
[01:33] <Dr_willis> and im not onkde so i cant look
[01:33] <Dr_willis> !sources
[01:33] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:33] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easysource - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <Dr_willis> Its in the menus somewhere. :) is all i recall someone saying about 20 min ago
[01:34] <Dr_willis> or use the add/remove icon and perhaps check the  other source/repositories
[01:35] <wftl> Is there a repo for bleeding edge KDE 4 packages? Some cool things have already been rolled into KDE 4 and it would be nice to take advantage of those changes.
[01:35] <wftl> Without waiting for official updates, I mean.
[01:36] <Odd-rationale> wftl: Try #kubuntu-kde4
[01:37] <HighDensity> can you reduce the size of the icons yet?
[01:37] <HighDensity> in KDE4 i mean
[01:37] <HighDensity> thats the only thing i don't like about it so far
[01:38] <Arv3n> [20:37] <Arv3n> Hello.
[01:38] <Arv3n> [20:37] <Arv3n> Is there a way to do KDE 4.0 on Freespire?
[01:38] <Arv3n> [20:37] <Arv3n> Shouldn't adding the repository and installing kde4base just work?
[01:38] <HighDensity> kde4-core* is how i done it
[01:39] <Arv3n> Yeah, what he said. ^^
[01:39] <wftl> Odd-rationale: Thanks. I appreciate it.
[01:39] <Arv3n> imma try it.
[01:39] <Odd-rationale> wftl: np
[01:39] <Arv3n> oh, no.
[01:39] <jab> hi all! is there a possibility to recover the mbr, when it has been overwritten by zeroes completely? (reasons apart ;-)
[01:39] <Arv3n> it wont work because the repo is for gutsy, i need feisty. >.>
[01:55] <Dr_willis> jab,  normally one would rerun update-grub or  similer from a live cd with the proper options to make a new mbr.
[01:55] <Dr_willis> Unless you are also wanting all the partitions back.. thats the data thats just after the bootloader part of the mbr... in that case.. ICK.
[01:55] <Dr_willis> :P
[01:56] <se7en> Dr_willis: you where testing mint ... how did you like it
[01:57] <Dannilion> I have a strange problem- since restarting my Gutsy machine, everytime I try to start Amarok or MythTV frontend X restarts itself
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> Dannilion: anything in the xorg log?
[01:59] <nosrednaekim>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:59] <Dannilion> thanks ;)
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> look at ti from a separate tty before logging into X (but after it crashes)
[01:59] <jab> Dr_willis: the case is quite hopeless i guess....whole mbr zeroe'd, encrypted partitions and rebooted ^^
[02:00] <Dannilion> okay, will do
[02:03] <Dr_willis> jab,  ICK. ick and icK
[02:03] <Dr_willis> se7en,  it works. has some neat things.. but they do some other things that makes you wonder 'why' :)
[02:04] <Dr_willis> se7en,  its just ubuntu with some packages added in and some of their own tools mainly.  I tend to install kubuntu-desktop over it  asap :)
[02:04] <miladen> Is there any keyloggers i can operate from a linux OS?
[02:04] <Dr_willis> miladen,  depends on what you are wanting to do exactly. :)
[02:04] <Odd-rationale> miladen: Why would you want to be keylogging? hmmm.
[02:04] <miladen> keylogger = log typing :)
[02:05] <miladen> dont worry its on my own network
[02:05] <Dr_willis> Thers the shell thats doable one way. and consoles dosable another say..
[02:05] <Odd-rationale> miladen: You just want to log yourself?
[02:05] <miladen> yes i have a "small business"
[02:05] <Dr_willis> of course what if you have users ssh'd in...
[02:05] <miladen> i have other users on my network
[02:05] <miladen> that i want to monitor... or rather i want to see how it is possible from linux
[02:06] <Dr_willis> there are logging login replacements I belive.
[02:06] <Dr_willis> but that wont get the X stuff.. just terminal commands.
[02:06] <miladen> i just switched to linux and i want to see if it has the same capabilities, and im sure it has even better in this area
[02:06] <Dr_willis> Id have to say  Hit Google. :)
[02:06] <miladen> i am hitting ;) just wanted to hear in my favorite channel first :)
[02:06] <Dr_willis> linux is so much more flexiable - you are in a whole nother ballgame.
[02:07] <miladen> the problem is that the other PC's are windows operated
[02:07] <Dr_willis> thers several ways a user could be 'on' a linux system. So what you want is not a simple task
[02:07] <miladen> linux monitoring windows machines
[02:07] <Odd-rationale> On the topic of keylogging, are there any anti-keylogging software for linux? I know there is one for firefox windows only.
[02:08] <Dannilion> okay, saved a copy of the xorg log after a crash... it's not making sense to me, so I'll upload it
[02:08] <miladen> so -> no there is no simple way to keylog as in windows with apps?
[02:09] <Dr_willis> no idea. Never tried it in windows.
[02:09] <miladen> in windows its just an app
[02:09] <Dr_willis> simple way = a root kit? :) but is that simple?
[02:09] <Dr_willis> that seems to tell me windows has MAJOR security issues.
[02:09] <miladen> hehe Dr_willis no it is not :)
[02:10] <Dannilion> nosrednaekim: Here's the log- can you see anything in it? It makes no sense to me http://dannimatzk.co.uk/Xorg.0.log
[02:10] <miladen> Dr_willis thats obvious
[02:11] <blizzzek> gn8
[02:13] <justin111_> is KDE4 stable yet for gaming last time i installed it it lagged my games out
[02:13] <Dr_willis> what games? :)
[02:13] <tyson_> this might sound like a n00b question, but i like firefox, and will never use konquerer, should i just uninstall konquerer?
[02:13] <justin111_> urban terror enemy territory
[02:13] <justin111_> NO
[02:14] <justin111_> well you can
[02:14] <justin111_> if you dont need a file browser
[02:14] <tyson_> i see
[02:14] <tyson_> point taken
[02:14] <justin111_> konquer is your file browser
[02:14] <tyson_> i thought thats what dolphin was
[02:14] <miladen> hmm wine cant run vice versa keylogger
[02:14] <justin111_> if you uninstall that you will have to do everything thru the console
[02:14] <tyson_> bugger that
[02:15] <tyson_> thanks boss
[02:15] <justin111_> np
[02:15] <justin111_> lol i only know cuz i did it once
[02:15] <Dr_willis> or use some other file manager. :)
[02:15] <tyson_> hehe
[02:15] <tyson_> :)
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> Dannilion: looking
[02:15] <justin111_> and may i recomend opera i like it more then firefox cuz it has built in IRC and bittorrent
[02:16] <Dannilion> nosrednaekim: thank you :)
[02:16] <tyson_> well, firefox can have those features too
[02:16] <justin111_> well yeah but you have to install them
[02:16] <justin111_> but
[02:16] <tyson_> like i am using chatzilla right now (i know pretty shitty, but works for me)
[02:16] <Dr_willis> opera is becoming the Emacs of the browser world! :0
[02:16] <tyson_> hehe
[02:16] <justin111_> it really just boils down to prefreance
[02:16] <tyson_> yeah
[02:16] <justin111_> prefrence
[02:16] <justin111_> i mean
[02:16] <justin111_> grr i cant spell
[02:17] <tyson_> ...and in the matter of taste, there is no argument
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> Dannilion: looks to me like its failing silently...
[02:17] <Dannilion> okay, thanks
[02:17] <Dannilion> I can always do a reinstall in the morning
[02:17] <justin111_> Dr_willis: how so is opera becoming emacs of browser
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> Dannilion: hmm hate to see that happen.... firsty try uninstalling amarok and mythtv.
[02:17] <Dr_willis> justin111_,  its INCLUDING torrent and irc clients.. what next a text editor? :)
[02:18] <Dr_willis> viOpera ! :0
[02:18] <xt828> if i use K3b to copy a dvd, will it include the region locking information?
[02:18] <Dr_willis> !info k9copy
[02:18] <ubotu> k9copy (source: k9copy): DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.3-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1409 kB, installed size 2748 kB
[02:18] <justin111_> Dr_willis: it has one if you install the widget you also can get a full HTML editor its graphical too
[02:18] <Dannilion> I don't want to uninstall mythtv completely as the backend is working- but will uninstall the frontend and amarok
[02:19] <Dr_willis> Im not sure how well k3b will copy a comercial dvd
[02:19] <tyson_> justin111_: yes, but does it play quake?
[02:19] <tyson_> ...what a great idea for a firefox addon
[02:19] <Dr_willis> i recall a 'java quake' somewhere.
[02:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:19] <xt828> only one way to find out, i guess
[02:19] <swatto> night all
[02:19] <tyson_> yes, and some dude made a .net quake 2
[02:20] <justin111_> tyson: ? what does firefox really play old school quake
[02:20] <swatto> ill have to deal with installing GIMP tommorow
[02:20] <tyson_> nah, i wish it did
[02:21] <justin111_> lol i bet you can find a CD burner for opera and a C++ IDE as well as a frontend to g++ for compiling
[02:21] <justin111_> and a personel drink mixer
[02:21] <tyson_> actually, i remember romero talking about how he wanted teleporters to work in quake where teleporters were originally supposed to take you to other servers. gives a whole new spin on hyperlinking i guess
[02:21] <Dr_willis> tyson_,  i saw that in a Quake2 Mod I belive.
[02:21] <Dr_willis> :P
[02:22] <tyson_> cool, i missed that one
[02:22] <liz_> hey ppl, how does one download and be able to open one's downloads on kubuntu??
[02:22] <justin111_> isnt this the support channel lol
[02:22] <Dr_willis> Some sort of Co-op mod with different servers and stuff. Youd join the main 'room' and see  people running about
[02:22] <Odd-rationale> liz_: I click on it :)
[02:22] <Dr_willis> and dead bodies allover the place :)
[02:22] <Dannilion> nosrednaekim: Thank you for your help. I'm going to try a hard reboot, and may not be back on tonight.
[02:23] <liz_> That didn't work last time for me when I tried dl opera browser Odd-rationale
[02:23] <g2g591> liz_: you download stuff, umm, pretty much like you would normally, if you want, you can install firefox through add/remove programs
[02:23] <justin111_> does ET:QW have native linux support
[02:23] <Odd-rationale> liz_: Opera is in the repos.
[02:23] <jab> i am getting nuts today!! just installed kubuntu 4 the first time, edited the sudoers, saved it, but made a typo. now everytime i call 'sudo' he reports a parsing error. how am i supposed to correct that, when i cant open the sudoers anymore ??
[02:24] <liz_> Ooo I'm going to check that g2g591
[02:24] <Dr_willis> jab,  boot live cd. mount the isntalled system. edit the file.
[02:24] <jab> ufffff, nothing easier ?
[02:24] <justin111_> kubuntu 4?
[02:24] <Dr_willis> jab,  or boot to rescue mode
[02:25] <jab> 4 = for the first time
[02:25] <tyson_> does compiz come with kubuntu?
[02:25] <Dr_willis> easier? learn to not make mistakes on critucal files. :)
[02:25] <justin111_> yeah
[02:25] <Qrawl> ok so....   can I use kubuntu-kde4.0-i386.iso   as an install disc on an empty HD?
[02:25] <justin111_> tyson: yeah
[02:25] <justin111_> tyson: dont use it with any games\
[02:25] <Odd-rationale> Qrawl: Not reccomended
[02:25] <justin111_> tyson: lags them worse then playing them under KDE4
[02:25] <jab> Dr_willis: lot of truth in that ^^
[02:26] <Qrawl> Odd-rationale, Ive used KDE4, if thats what you mean
[02:26] <Dr_willis> jab,  normally i would keep a terminal open with a 'sudo -s' shell  going.. then edit the file in a DIFFERNT terminal, and verify it worked.
[02:26] <Qrawl> I just want to know if its also a basic install CD
[02:26] <tyson_> justin111_: i just installed kubuntu gutsy. i dont think it has kde4
[02:26] <Qrawl>  and does that have 686
[02:27] <Odd-rationale> Qrawl: No, I think it is better to upgrade an existing install. But that is my opinion. You can certainly install with the live cd.
[02:27] <Qrawl> Odd-rationale, why
[02:27] <liz_> I'm unable to click on firefox in add/remove
[02:27] <jab> Dr_willis: i'll keep that in mind...i'm just used to the traditional su method
[02:28] <justin111_> no it doesny
[02:28] <justin111_> doesnt
[02:28] <justin111_> but you should try it out to get used to it
[02:28] <Odd-rationale> Qrawl: The Kde 4 live cd seems to be missing some core ubuntu stuffs. You will have to remove ubiquity after installation.
[02:28] <Dr_willis> i was thinking the kde4 live cd's dident have an installer..yet.
[02:28] <Qrawl> Odd-rationale, oh ok ty
[02:28] <Dr_willis> but i just toy with them. :)
[02:28] <Odd-rationale> Dr_willis: It does have an installer.
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> At least when I downloaded it.
[02:29] <tyson_> justin111_: i heard it crashes a bit. im a complete dummy when it comes to linux, so i wanna avoid crashes
[02:29] <Dr_willis> May be the older ones dident.
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> But I;m using 3.5 right now.
[02:29] <miladen> If i installed an app using wine in C:program files
[02:29] <miladen> where do i find it?
[02:29] <Dr_willis> If you want to avoide crashes.. then avoide kde4 for now. :)
[02:29] <justin111_> it wont crash as long as you use it
[02:29] <Dr_willis> miladen,  its in the .wine direcory
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> miladen: ~/.wine
[02:29] <justin111_> i mean dont use it
[02:29] <justin111_> =P
[02:29] <tyson_> heh
[02:29] <Qrawl> kubuntu-kde4.0-i386.iso        11-Jan-2008 01:16  554M
[02:30] <miladen> Odd-rationale how do you make the wavy line ? :D
[02:30] <Qrawl> lol
[02:30] <Odd-rationale> miladen: like this ~~~~~ :)
[02:30] <miladen> :(
[02:30] <liz_> I installed kubuntu along with windows and when the pc starts I'm not able to boot into windows... do I have to reinstall xp?
[02:30] <Dr_willis> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[02:30] <justin111_> i have to reboot my kubuntu install is done
[02:30] <Odd-rationale> miladen: You have to find it. Many keybaords have it near the escape key.
[02:31] <Odd-rationale> miladen: It is the uppercas of `
[02:31] <miladen> yeah try on a danish keyboard
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> liz_: windows isn't on the grub boot menu?
[02:31] <Odd-rationale> miladen: just do /home/miladen/.wine
[02:31] <Taggnostr> is there an uml editor for kubuntu?
[02:31] <Odd-rationale> assuming miladen is your username.
[02:32] <Dr_willis> !find uml
[02:32] <ubotu> Found: bouml, guml, libumlib0, libumlib0-dev, numlockx (and 6 others)
[02:32] <Dr_willis> I recall some xml editors
[02:32] <Dr_willis> !find xml
[02:32] <ubotu> Found: docbook-xml, intltool, librpc-xml-perl, libruby1.8, libxml++2.6-dev (and 203 others)
[02:32] <Dr_willis> 203 others.. heh heh
[02:32] <liz_> It is nosrednaekim, I have the option to choose it, but when I do, it just boots back up and starts kubuntu
[02:32] <Taggnostr> I'm trying with adept installer but if I deselect unsupported it can't find anything
[02:33] <Taggnostr> what happen if I install an unsupported program?
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> liz_: thats weird, Xp is ont he first partition of the hard drive right?
[02:33] <miladen> OMG! i cant find an app i just installed
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> miladen: which is...
[02:33] <Odd-rationale> miladen: What is in your ~/.wine folder?
[02:33] <miladen> a windows app for my webbank login
[02:34] <liz_> yes... it should be, it's hda1 or whatever... just doesn't start, I get the xp window but then it just boots back up
[02:34] <val0> liz_: i don't know if you want to go down that road but there is a nice little app called StarUpManager (SUM) it's very helpfull and at the same time very deadly if you don't use it right
[02:34] <Taggnostr> could I try to install an unsupported app and then remove it if there are problems?
[02:34] <miladen> I just want to find my C: folder where the hell is it?
[02:35] <Odd-rationale> try ~/.wine/drive_c
[02:35] <miladen> I CANT make that line :(
[02:35] <Odd-rationale> Then do /home/miladen
[02:35] <liz_> if I go ahead and reinstall xp using the hard drive backup, will it take over the whole hard drive or will it install in the partition it's already in?
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> Odd-rationale: might want to add a command to those lines?
[02:35] <miladen> bash: /home/miladen/.wine/drive_c: is a directory
[02:35] <Odd-rationale> miladen: I was just teasing you with the ~~~
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> liz_: you get the XP window? like the boot splash for XP?
[02:35] <val0> liz_: you can specify where to install it but it will overwrite your bootloader ?
[02:36] <Odd-rationale> miladen: Do <<cd /home/miladen/.wine/drive_c
[02:36] <Odd-rationale> Without the <<
[02:36] <Odd-rationale> nosrednaekim: You were right.
[02:36] <liz_> boot splash meaning the xp windows sign acting like it's loading but it doesnt...
[02:36] <miladen> what do i enter when there is a directory with a space in the name?
[02:37] <liz_> well that sucks val0
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> liz_: yeah... the windows logo with the sliding progress bar
[02:37] <miladen> what do i enter when there is a directory with a space in the name?
[02:37] <Odd-rationale> miladen: Use tab to auto-complete
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> miladen: include the path in "" marks
[02:37] <val0> liz_: that's why they recomment to install XP first and then linux
[02:37] <liz_> yep that's as far as it goes nosrednaekim
[02:37] <zethero1> anyone in here who can help me install elisa-extra?
[02:37] <liz_> that's what I did val0 :-P
[02:38] <Odd-rationale> g2g see ya!
[02:38] <val0> liz_: and now you can't boot into windows? or were you able to but can't now?
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> liz_: thats very odd.... sounds like a messed up windows.
[02:38] <miladen> lol its in my start menu :D
[02:39] <liz_> since I install kubuntu (yesterday) I haven't been able to go into windows and it's the primary partition with the most hd space
[02:40] <liz_> darn... in administrator&systems... can't I just make windows partition active??? maybe that would solve it
[02:40] <val0> liz_: well, you have a choice: you can overwrite your MBR with a windows XP cd and loose your linux but you'll most likely will be able to fix your windows partition...
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> well, you can regain the linux MBR pretty easily with a liveCD
[02:42] <liz_> i had plenty obstacles loading up linux... took me about 5 tries lol
[02:42] <justin111_> anyone here play urba terror
[02:42] <justin111_> urban terror
[02:42] <val0> nosrednaekim: you are right, i just ment she won't be able to boot into it
[02:43] <liz_> don't know why... cd kept freezing on one step or another... do u think that in "disks&filesystems" this can be fixed?
[02:44] <Taggnostr> I tried umbrello but it doesn't work, as usual
[02:44] <val0> miladen: do you have a Danish layout keyboard?
[02:45] <miladen> ye
[02:45] <Taggnostr> I can't understand if there incompatibility problems with ubuntu or if is just umbrello that is broken
[02:45] <val0> miladen: your "~" should be located two keys over to the right of "P" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#Danish
[02:45] <justin111_> *sings in bad voice* under my umber-ella, ella, ella, eh eh (stuck in my head my sister keeps singing it)
[02:45] <tyson_> i installed compiz, but cant seem to find where to start it
[02:46] <val0> liz_: you are just trying to boot into windows right?
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: run "compiz --replace" from a run dialog
[02:46] <miladen> Â±Â±}}?=
[02:46] <val0> miladen: lol?
[02:46] <miladen> ~
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> justin111_: I hate that song....
[02:47] <miladen> HAHA look at me guys ~~~~~~
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> miladen: w00t
[02:47] <val0> miladen: there you go!
[02:47] <miladen> you've raised me well :d
[02:47] <justin111_> nosrednaekim: so do i belive me
[02:47] <val0> miladen: now send me a box of your world favous cookies!
[02:47] <miladen> :P
[02:48] <liz_> val0: yes trying to figure out a way to do so
[02:48] <justin111_> i want my coldstone ice cream
[02:48] <val0> justin111_: coldstone is the BEST!!!
[02:49] <justin111_> im gunna get some after dinner
[02:49] <val0> liz_: ok do you only have one computer?
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> liz_: did you try activating the partition in disks and Filesystems?
[02:49] <tyson_> nosrednaekim: i did that, but the only difference i see is that the window 'frames' have no borders. like, i cant drag windows around
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: do you have an nvidia?
[02:49] <tyson_> yup
[02:49] <liz_> val0: no I have another, u suggesting I use windows in one and linux in this one?
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: google "ARGBGLXVisuals"
[02:50] <liz_> nosrednaekim: I just tried doing that and I couldn't :-/
[02:50] <val0> liz_: nope i am just asking so you don't have to log off and try a few different things
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: also, you may need emerald
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> liz_: where did it fail?
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> (in disks and filesystems)
[02:51] <justin111_> omfg go to ratemypoo.com
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> !ot | justin111_
[02:52] <ubotu> justin111_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:52] <val0> liz_: what I would suggest eventho it will take time, is to overwrite your current mbr with the windows one... try to boot into windows... if you are succefull that you know there is something wrong with your linux loader... if you still can't load window, even with the correct (windows) mbr then you know you have a windows issue rather than a boot loader issue
[02:52] <miladen> \j #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:52] <liz_> nosrednaekim: the enable/disable button weren't even activated
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> liz_: right... no need into go into admin mode and press "new" and enter datat for the new mount point
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> *you need
[02:54] <liz_> val0: I don't think its a windows issue.. well maybe it has issues w/the partition ha :)
[02:54] <purpleposeidon> How do you make urls open in an already-open konqueror window instead of a new one?
[02:54] <liz_> nosrednaekim: what would I put?
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> purpleposeidon: oh man.. I know there is a setting for that somewhere....
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> liz_: for the mount point "/media/windows"
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> liz_: for the type, ntfs
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> liz_: for the permissions, "mount and unmount by any user"
[02:56] <purpleposeidon> nosrednaekim: Yeah, I know too. :(
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> purpleposeidon: doesn't seem to be an command line option to konqueror to do that(there is for firefox)
[03:00] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[03:00] <liz_> nosrednaekim: when I pressed save it tells me the mountpoint /media/windows doesn't exist, asking me if it should be created
[03:00] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> liz_: say yes
[03:01] <liz_> nosrednaekim: ok great, now I enable it correct?
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> liz_: yes
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> purpleposeidon: ah! its in the konqueror config
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> (at least for kde4, let me check for kde3)
[03:04] <liz_> nosrednaekim: thx much, hopefully that does the trick :)
[03:04] <Dragnslcr> Anyone else have problems lately with Bluetooth devices (keyboard and mouse) getting disconnected frequently? It's been really bad the past few days
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> purpleposeidon: nope... not available for kde3 it seems
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> yet another reason to switch to kde4 ;)
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: batteries?
[03:09] <liz_> Thank you all much, that's all for now, g2g :)
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- nope, the batteries are fine. Just recharged the mouse a day or two ago
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> They both work fine when I reconnect them, I just have to do a hidd --search every time
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> I'm lost with BT
[03:13] <crimsun> bittorrent or the company?
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> bluetooth
[03:16] <crimsun> ah, right.  The above context helps.
[03:18] <se7en> what package do i need to convert wma 2 mp3
[03:24] <tyson_> nosrednaekim:  thanks for the help with getting my window frames back
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: did that work?
[03:27] <tyson_> i had the adlxwhatever stuff in my xorg allright, but when i installed emerald, that helped
[03:27] <tyson_> brb
[03:39] <FreeResellerDude> how come when i have youtube playing through firefox in wine when i go full screen firefox crashes?
[03:40] <sonoftheclayr> FreeResellerDude: Probably a problem with wine. What's wrong with firefox in linux?
[03:40] <g2g591> sonoftheclayr: probily the flash install
[03:41] <ForgeAus> but firefox does flash doesn't it?
[03:41] <ForgeAus> the Linux one I mean
[03:41] <sonoftheclayr> Yeah firefox does flash fine in linux
[03:42] <g2g591> sonoftheclayr: well, our install package doesn't work
[03:42] <sonoftheclayr> I just downloaded the one from the adobe
[03:42] <sonoftheclayr> Adobe lab's to be exact but that's just betas and stuff
[03:42] <g2g591> sonoftheclayr: i know, the adobe one works
[03:43] <ses59> I was wondering if kde 4 was stable and how to install it?
[03:43] <FreeResellerDude> it freezes firefox lol
[03:43] <FreeResellerDude> (sonoftheclayr)
[03:44] <sonoftheclayr> FreeResellerDude: So flah in firfox for Linux freezes it? How often or is it all the time?
[03:44] <justin111_> why is it that kubuntu goes black the to kernel (black thing with blinking text thingey) repeates steps 1-2 and then goes to normal agian
[03:44] <justin111_> just out of no where
[03:44] <FreeResellerDude> everytime i leave a flash video....
[03:44] <MaskedOne> so um my cpu (as seen in htop) is at 100% use so computer is slow and stuff is going nuts
[03:44] <MaskedOne> Any clue what the problem is?
[03:44] <g2g591> ses59: nope, its not stable, but see the announcement on kubuntu.org on how to install
[03:45] <ses59> thank you
[03:45] <g2g591> MaskedOne: use top to see the process using the cpu the most
[03:45] <ses59> i just wanted to see what 4 was like and if i needed to reinstall flash and shock using nsplugwrapper
[03:46] <MaskedOne> g2g might be easier said than done as Terminal does not load sucessfully and typing top into run gui does nothing
[03:47] <g2g591> MaskedOne: oooo.
[03:47] <justin111_> why do so many people use PCLOS
[03:47] <MaskedOne> kfmclient keeps blinking on as using 100% like 4 times over every second or 2
[03:47] <Dragnslcr> MaskedOne- ctrl-esc should open KSysGuard
[03:47] <g2g591> MaskedOne: ctrl alt f1 gives you a terminal ( ksysgaurd is kinda heavy)
[03:48] <g2g591> MaskedOne: use ctrl alt f7 to get back
[03:49] <MaskedOne> dont see a filter to see cpu oad in process table on ksysguard
[03:50] <MaskedOne> kdeinit tree keeps randomly opening kfmclient processes on opening url for fullcirclemagazine
[03:51] <g2g591> MaskedOne:  its the user% column for cpu usage, and you can kill proces using ksysgaurd
[03:51] <MaskedOne> killed entire kinit tree cause the proceses were randomly appearing and disapearing so fast
[03:51] <MaskedOne> cpu% used is about 30% now every second or so
[03:53] <MrJoey> "<justin111_> why is it that kubuntu goes black the to kernel (black thing with blinking text thingey) repeates steps 1-2 and then goes to normal agian " ==> Perhaps you had low RAM and no swap?  How much RAM do you have?
[03:53] <MrJoey> You can type 'free' to find out
[03:54] <justin111_> 1 gig DDR2 800mhz (with heat spreaders) =P
[04:04] <huayi> hi, i use kubuntu 7
[04:04] <jhutchins> Free's a bit misleading.  linux will find something to do with any memory available to it.
[04:05] <SkyNet> ok, good for you
[04:05] <huayi> hi, i use kubuntu 7.10, i want to import Ms. Access (*.mdb) files into my openoffice.org calc, how do i do that?
[04:06] <SkyNet> using jdbc connection
[04:06] <huayi> how do i do that?
[04:06] <huayi> from which menu?
[04:07] <SkyNet> first, download the jdbc driver,
[04:08] <SkyNet> let me see the menu
[04:08] <huayi> and then? i have all the repos dvd
[04:08] <SkyNet> sourceforge.net
[04:10] <SkyNet> do you try with the openOffice Database?
[04:10] <SkyNet> is there
[04:11] <huayi> no, it can, i can manage it with kexi, but still my intention is importing it to calc
[04:12] <huayi> openoffice base cannot do it
[04:24] <Impiety> anyone know why apt would think that almost every package was automatically installed and no longer require
[04:24] <neville> what does aptitude think?
[04:25] <Impiety> same
[04:25] <Impiety> I don't really understand it
[04:25] <Impiety> I installed kde4 and then removed it
[04:31] <snarkster> is there any clues yet when kde4.1 will be out?
[04:31] <g2g591> impiety: bash scripting comes in handy here, copy the list of packages to be autoremoved into a file, then run "for x in 'cat filename' ; do sudo apt-get install $x ;done
[04:32] <g2g591> Impiety: im not sure if the ;s are in the right spots, but they're close
[04:34] <Impiety> ohh
[04:34] <Impiety> gotcha
[04:34] <Impiety> i can do that
[04:34] <g2g591> Impiety, saves some typing :p
[04:34] <Impiety> oh yeah
[04:35] <mefisto__> all videos played in xine players are displaying incorrect aspect ratio. If I "disable all video scaling" in kaffeine, the aspect ratio is correct (but too small, of course). Does anyone know what's going on?
[04:36] <Impiety> would anyone happen to know what this means  Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid.
[04:36] <Impiety> gtk won't load
[04:36] <Howdies> Last I heard kde 4.1 was due around april, i think phoronix published their release schedule
[04:37] <g2g591> Howdies: i heard july
[04:38] <Howdies> sorry then, i remember mid 08 ish
[04:43] <mefisto__> any suggestions on troubleshooting xine aspect ratio?
[04:50] <sara> hello
[04:51] <sara_77> i have a dual core intel via motherboard and gutsy wont play any sound. Is there a gui utilitity like the old alsaconfig ?
[04:52] <sara_77> for getting your sound
[04:52] <sara_77> recognized
[04:53] <sara_77> im sure its a common problem
[04:53] <sub[t]rnl> !sound | sara_77
[04:53] <ubotu> sara_77: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:53] <sub[t]rnl> might wanna check alsamixer to see if anything is muted?
[04:54] <sara_77> i enabled sound, its not on mute, and I made sur eits in the right hole
[04:54] <sara_77> i think its because its onboard sound
[04:54] <sara_77> had this with the last 4 or 5 linux issues when i had onboard sound
[04:55] <sub[t]rnl> I use onboard sound, on a laptop right now, works fine
[04:55] <sara_77> sometimes it does sometimes not
[04:55] <sara_77> is yours via/
[04:56] <sub[t]rnl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[04:57] <sara_77> thanks
[05:16] <CadaverPimp> What is a good database for the running processes? I want to stop those which I do not need and cancel bootup of those which I do not require
[05:18] <draik> Much better
[05:18] <draik> !process
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about process - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <draik> !processes
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about processes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <klobster> alo?
[05:22] <draik> Alo
[05:22] <justin31> why is it out of no where that my screen will go black then to a shell then black then to a shell then it will go to normal and it wont let me play games either this all happened after i installed the nvidia driver im am so mad at (k)ubuntu it doesnt "just work"
[05:22] <draik> justin31: Seems that you don't have the right nvidia driver.
[05:23] <justin31> it works fine under ubuntu
[05:23] <justin31> i have the right driver
[05:23] <draik> restricted?
[05:23] <justin31> it seems to be a problem with X
[05:23] <justin31> yes the propeity driver
[05:23] <justin31> is there a way to update X thru apt
[05:23] <draik> Are you running compiz-fusion?
[05:24] <RobotGuy> Have you tried apt-get upgrade system
[05:24] <justin31> no i have no effects on atm
[05:26] <justin12> sorry had to restart k
[05:26] <justin12> X i mean
[05:26] <klobster> does anyone use konversation and know how to minimize it to the tray applet?  It used to do so, but it seemed to stop recently.
[05:26] <justin12> im going to update if it still does it
[05:27] <justin12> grrr it just did it again
[05:28] <ForgeAus> klobster thats the default behaviour of it
[05:28] <ForgeAus> check your config
[05:28] <justin12> is there a easy way to install teamspeak like with a .deb
[05:29] <justin12> is it in the respositorys
[05:29] <firecrotch> justin: teamspeak-client
[05:30] <klobster> ForgeAus: default to minimize to tray?
[05:30] <justin12> i wouldnt know
[05:31] <firecrotch> justin12: that's the name of the package, it's in the repositories. sudo apt-get install teamspeak-client  :)
[05:31] <ForgeAus> the default is to run it in the system tray yes
[05:31] <ForgeAus> so when it minimizes thats where it goes
[05:31] <ForgeAus> actually you use the cross box to minimize it
[05:31] <ForgeAus> (it doesn't exit the program)
[05:31] <ForgeAus> you use the system tray icon to exit it
[05:31] <justin12> but i recomend you use opera its a web browser IRC client and bit torrent client all in one and it minimizes to tray
[05:31] <ForgeAus> unless you've altered the default behaviour
[05:32] <justin12> firecrotch: yeah i figured that out thanks allready installed
[05:32] <klobster> not mine :(  cross ask if I want to quit.  I'll take a second look
[05:32] <ForgeAus> if you minimize, it should go to the taskbar
[05:32] <ForgeAus> (or panel or whatever you want to call it)
[05:32] <firecrotch> and of course, opera isn't free software ;)
[05:32] <ForgeAus> firecrotch? not free or not foss?
[05:33] <ForgeAus> I thought Opera was basically adware as opposed to freeware (or if you like advert-supported freeware)
[05:33] <firecrotch> ForgeAus:  Free as in freedom, not free as in beer
[05:34] <ForgeAus> firecrotch what do you mean by free as in beer? I don't drink alcohol
[05:34] <firecrotch> ForgeAus:  Free beer... as in, you don't have to pay for it
[05:34] <val0> firecrotch: lol
[05:34] <ForgeAus> and the difference is?
[05:34] <val0> LOL
[05:35] <klobster> found it, thanks
[05:35] <firecrotch> ForgeAus:  Free as in freedom means I can do whatever I want with it - modify it, etc
[05:36] <ubuntu> hola
[05:36] <klobster> ForgeAus: thanks for the advice, but I like konversation, else i would use seamonkey.
[05:36] <ForgeAus> well I generally don't modify programs aside from configuration
[05:36] <ForgeAus> but if I were a hacker or knew how to program them differently I may take that into consideration
[05:36] <firecrotch> Neither do I, but I feel good in the fact that I know that if I wanted to, or needed to, I could
[05:37] <ForgeAus> wouldn't that mean you don't trust the programmers who make the software to begin with?
[05:37] <ForgeAus> or you simply are keeping your options open?
[05:38] <firecrotch> Keeping my options open
[05:38] <klobster> ForgeAus: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html for more information
[05:38] <val0> ForgeAus: open source allows for transperency of programming and if everybody can see the source code and modify it at will they can improve the product and make sure that it doesn't not contain unwanted code
[05:38] <ForgeAus> well I'm an equal opportunity software enthusiast :)
[05:38] <firecrotch> Let's say I need a feature added to a web browser that no one else could ever possibly need.  Opera, I can't do that.  Firefox, I can
[05:39] <ForgeAus> of course publicly within legal limits of whatever licence the software is published with
[05:39] <firecrotch> In fact, I've been considering tweaking firefox to be able to have some of the functionality of Konqueror - namely filesystem manipulation and stuff like that
[05:40] <firecrotch> Of course, that's currently not within my realm of knowledge, but it soon could be.
[05:40] <ForgeAus> firecrotch with opera I don't see why you can't get the opera people to do it for you if you ask
[05:40] <val0> firecrotch: that would actually be really handy.., i always wanted that
[05:40] <ForgeAus> (bombard them with customization queries so they either make it configurable enough to handle any scenario or they decide to alter their licence)
[05:40] <ForgeAus> but really its their choce
[05:40] <ForgeAus> they're the ppl that program it
[05:41] <ForgeAus> grr choice
[05:41] <ForgeAus> theres merit in either approach
[05:41] <firecrotch> Exactly.  The problem that I have with programs like Opera is they usually put $ before the users
[05:41] <ForgeAus> well if they ask you to pay for it tell them bye bye...
[05:41] <RobotGuy> What would cause Kubuntu to hang up on a USB initialization?
[05:42] <ForgeAus> the onus is on them to provide you with software that works for your needs
[05:42] <firecrotch> And now, I suggest that if we want to continue this discussion, we take it to #kubuntu-offtopic before Tm_T gets mad at us :)
[05:43] <ForgeAus> lol I odn't think theres much more to discuss about it
[05:43] <ForgeAus> besides has anyone asked a question that requires support?
[05:43] <ForgeAus> oh yeah robot guy
[05:43] <firecrotch> Hahaha
[05:44] <computer> hello what's the iso burning program that comes with kubuntu everyeon
[05:44] <computer> everyone*****
[05:44] <firecrotch> Also, val0 - I wonder how many other people would be interested in that.
[05:44] <firecrotch> computer: k3b'
[05:44] <computer> thanks alot =)
[05:44] <firecrotch> without the apostrophe, of course
[05:44] <computer> ya :)
[05:46] <val0> firecrotch: i don't know, but i find it pretty annoying to have to use two or three apps when a hybrid like that could solve the issue
[05:47] <RobotGuy> I actually prefer to use separate apps for each task.
[05:47] <firecrotch> val0:  I was just thinking of a way it could be possible, as well.  I assume you've heard of IEtab, right?
[05:48] <val0> firecrotch: yes and i've used it myself, was really helpfull a few times, especially browsing m$ pages
[05:49] <Jasmin_> i installed compiz but stil i dont know what key i hav to use for see effect
[05:50] <firecrotch> val0:  Well, I figure that the code that calls the internet explorer interface could just be replaced with code to call konq instead
[05:50] <firecrotch> if I had the time to sit down, look at the source code (and learn the language) I could probably do it
[05:51] <Jasmin_> i tried some lik ctrl+alt+left key
[05:51] <computer> hmm i'm trying to create a super grub disk from kubuntu, in k3b, is this a data project trying to burn a 500kb iso image on to a cd? thanks
[05:52] <val0> firecrotch: maybe i am wrong but i think that it's little more involved than that. I think that the IEtabs is just an emulation of how Firefox interprets the code as opposed to whole deal with file handling... but i might be totally wrong
[05:52] <computer> or should i be clicking the button that says 'burn dvd iso image', but i'm trying to put stuff on cd...
[05:54] <triple-h> cioa
[05:54] <firecrotch> val0:  I'm assuming that it basically calls the IE rendering engine, and translates the firefox button controls to commands that the IE engine would understand
[05:55] <firecrotch> it basically embeds IE within FF, so to speak
[05:56] <val0> firecrotch: yeh something like that
[05:56] <val0> firecrotch: so to handle files it will need something more than that
[05:57] <firecrotch> val0:  As long as it passes the URI entered in the address bar directly to konqueror, it should work fine in handling files
[05:58] <val0> firecrotch: that's where you loose me... not enough knowledge on this end to be able to say anything either way... I just WANT stuff :D
[05:58] <Jasmin_> firecrotch: hi can u tel me about compiz i installed compiz but i dont know how do i can use
[05:58] <val0> Jasmin_: what are you trying to do with it?
[05:58] <val0> Jasmin_: did you configure it?
[05:59] <mefisto__> IE view lite is an extension that opens IE from a page displayed in firefox, and can easily be changed to open konqueror
[05:59] <Jasmin_> val0: how to do
[06:00] <firecrotch> mefisto__:  we're looking to actually embed Konq inside of a firefox tab though, similar to IEtab
[06:00] <ForgeAus> so a Konqtab :)
[06:00] <mefisto__> firecrotch: that seems much more complicated
[06:01] <val0> Jasmin_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/ConfiguringCompiz
[06:01] <firecrotch> mefisto__:  Yeah, it seems complicated, but it would be so useful!
[06:02] <firecrotch> Now that I think about it... isn't there a KPart for Konqueror?
[06:03] <mefisto__> firecrotch: but you would have konqueror in firefox, without the konqueror interface. Considering konqueror starts up so fast, it seems better to have a new konqueror window
[06:07] <val0> firecrotch: what i really need is some kind of a contraption that would change "focus" based on the application that i am physically looking at... just got this 28 inch monitor and it's a pain in the ass to use!!! maybe i should email Stephen Hawkings, I hear he has something like that
[06:08] <firecrotch> val0:  I bet that could actually be done pretty easily
[06:09] <firecrotch> val0:  Obviously it would require the use of a video camera of some kind
[06:09] <val0> firecrotch: glasses or some special contact lenses and off you go!
[06:09] <val0> firecrotch: I was thinking more like IR
[06:10] <val0> firecrotch: check this out: http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2006039346&IA=WO2006039346&DISPLAY=DESC
[06:10] <mefisto__> you want it to change focus just by looking?
[06:10] <computer> i just tried to rename an ".avi" file to an ".iso" file, but the icon still says that it's an ".avi" file, anyway i can make it change to ".iso"?
[06:10] <surgy> maybe a fealer gauge to go on your right eyelid so you can keep your right eye closed and actually look with your left eye, it whould feal for the high point where your puple is
[06:10] <firecrotch> val0:  Hmm, that would be a possible way to do it, but it would require you to physically move your head, which you probably don't do
[06:10] <surgy> computer: use acetone iso
[06:10] <val0> computer: are you trying to burn a movie?
[06:11] <val0> mefisto__: yeh something htat i can scroll through apps with, without using mouse/keys
[06:11] <mefisto__> computer: mkisofs is the command you want
[06:11] <computer> no i'm trying to test out crystal xp on my old pc
[06:11] <computer> o
[06:12] <computer> is there some way to do this in windows
[06:12] <computer> the file i downloaded is on my desktop
[06:13] <val0> computer: sorry never heard of it
[06:13] <mefisto__> "mkisofs -o cd.iso movie.avi" I think is the way to do it
[06:13] <computer> so basically i downloaded 8 rar files that extracted to an ".avi" file, the instruction that came with the download says to rename t he ".avi" file to ".iso" file, but i did that, and it's not changing
[06:13] <computer> ic
[06:13] <computer> hmm maybe i'll redownload it on kubuntu, would u happen to know someway to do it in windows?
[06:14] <val0> computer: to just rename the file?
[06:14] <mefisto__> computer: can you play the avi? or is it actually an iso image with an .avi extension?
[06:14] <val0> computer: where did you read those installation instructions??
[06:14] <computer> it's supposed to be an iso file i think
[06:14] <computer> val0 o and the instructions were included in the rar file, it came out once i extracted the rar files
[06:15] <mefisto__> renaming it will not change the content of the file from avi to iso
[06:15] <computer> val0 i'm thinking when the instruction said to rename it, it meant to change the avi file into an iso file
[06:15] <computer> mefisto__ yeah, that's where i'm stuck kinda
[06:16] <computer> cuz after the rename the icon of the file still displays three fat letters a, v, i across lol
[06:16] <computer> anyone tried acetone iso b4 like surgy suggested
[06:16] <computer> actually i'll try google a bit more too thanks everyone
[06:16] <surgy> i have its amazing
[06:17] <computer> does it change avi files into iso files? or is it  mostly for burning
[06:17] <mefisto__> try "mkisofs -o cd.iso movie.avi"
[06:19] <computer> cool,  yeah i saw u mentioned it b4, but the file i downloaded is actually on my desktop, and the desktop is windows xp hehe
[06:19] <surgy> computer: its mostly for compressing and decompressing files to or from iso formats
[06:19] <computer> surgy ic
[06:20] <computer> o and i just googled a little bit more, i think magicISO on windows can do this, and i have that program installed, so i'll try that way first
[06:20] <computer> hopefully this'll take away all the problems =)
[06:20] <mefisto__> computer: do you have kubuntu? why not just make the iso in kubuntu?
[06:20] <val0> computer: well to convert an AVI file to ISO file you can use DeVeDe and then use K3b to burn it :D
[06:20] <val0> !devede
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about devede - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <computer> mefisto__ yeah i'm typing on my kubuntu laptop, but the file is actually on a windwos desktop
[06:21] <val0> LOL
[06:21] <val0> nice
[06:21] <mefisto__> you can also use k3b to make an iso, in the burn dialog tick "only create image"
[06:22] <mefisto__> computer: so you don't have access to the file?
[06:22] <computer> no not on the laptop,  yeah i just realized how badly i framed the question, srries
[06:23] <computer> i think i just got the mess straightened out on the desktop for now tho
[06:23] <computer> it seems like magicISO in windows does similar tasks
[06:24] <mefisto__> computer: or use a kubuntu livecd in the windows machine
[06:25] <computer> o yeah that'd work, that makes sense too,  yeah i should of thought of that earlier
[06:26] <computer> yeah i was going thru all this to get an xp disk just in case i screw up mbr trying to remove ubuntu off desktop
[06:28] <g2g591> is there a kde based dock app like awn?
[06:29] <mefisto__> computer: if you have a win98 startup floppy, "fdisk /mbr" will fix it too
[06:29] <computer> mefisto__ yeah ordered my desktop with no floppy drive har har, so sad.....
[06:30] <computer> mefisto__ when i bought the desktop i kept thinking there'd be no way i'll ever get to use floppy, and it'd be extra hassle just trying to install it =)
[06:31] <firecrotch> g2g591: kooldock is kde-specific, but I've always had problems with it.  kiba-dock is also nice, but you have to compile it yourself
[06:31] <g2g591> firecrotch: ill give it a try
[06:31] <computer> can't we get kiba dock from adept now
[06:31] <firecrotch> computer:  Weren't able to the last time I checked, which was last week
[06:32] <g2g591> firecrotch: omg, we have an up to date package of it
[06:32] <computer> or maybe not nvm, i think i actually had to download and install myself too
[06:32] <firecrotch> g2g591:  that said, I use AWN with no problems at all
[06:32] <g2g591> firecrotch: well, it wont let me add a launcher
[06:32] <computer> !
[06:33] <computer> oops srry
[06:33] <computer> was testing out commands
[06:33] <Jasmin_> val0: thanks but my compiz --replace command is not working
[06:34] <Jasmin_> dhq@dhq-laptop:~$ compiz --replace
[06:34] <Jasmin_> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[06:34] <Jasmin_> Blacklisted PCIID '8086:2a02' found
[06:34] <Jasmin_> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[06:34] <Jasmin_> no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting
[06:35] <firecrotch> Jasmin_:  I apologize if someone has already asked about this, but do you have an ATI video card, by chance?
[06:36] <g2g591> firecrotch: kooldock seems to be working pretty well so far
[06:36] <Jasmin_> firecrotch: i dont know but now what i hav to do
[06:37] <val0> Jasmin_: let me think :)
[06:38] <firecrotch> g2g591:  That's good.  Are you using compiz at all?  I think the problems I had were related to compiz and kooldock not working well together
[06:38] <g2g591> firecrotch: actually i am
[06:38] <g2g591> firecrotch: im not sure if  it matters, but im running hardy
[06:39] <firecrotch> g2g591:  that could be the difference... I had problems in Edgy, Feisty, and Gutsy
[06:39] <computer> curious/(related i guess): do kiba-dock only work when beryl is open? cuz whenever i set beryl to use kwin, on bootup i'd get kibadock in center, and black everywhere else, only when i close kiba-dock do everything go normal again, then i can start beryl, then kiba-dock, and everything's good
[06:39] <firecrotch> Haven't made the leap to hardy yet - had trouble installing it fresh
[06:40] <firecrotch> Jasmin_:  Well, first we need to find out what kind of video card you have.  Can you paste the output of lspci to a pastebin?
[06:40] <firecrotch> !pastebin | Jasmin_
[06:40] <ubotu> Jasmin_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:40] <val0> firecrotch: is there an issue with ATI v/c's and compiz?
[06:42] <firecrotch> val0: The restricted driver has to be used, the default one doesn't have support for Xgl
[06:42] <firecrotch> val0:  and xserver-xgl has to be installed
[06:42] <val0> firecrotch: nice, didn't know the first part, nvidia here
[06:43] <firecrotch> val0:  I just happened to help a friend get compiz working on ATI card earlier today, otherwise I wouldn't have known about it either
[06:44] <Jasmin_> firecrotch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53522/
[06:44] <val0> firecrotch: yes, don't you just love the feeling of an idiot in the morning and genious at night?? (didn't mean to offend you if I did!)
[06:45] <firecrotch> Haha no offense taken at all lol
[06:45] <firecrotch> And that blows that theory out of the water... Intel graphics
[06:46] <val0> firecrotch: lol, yep
[06:46] <val0> Jasmin_: is that a brand new computer?
[06:47] <g2g591> firecrotch: take back what i said about updated package, its 0.1.7 versions out of date
[06:48] <Jasmin_> val0: wel i hav dell vostro 1500
[06:49] <firecrotch> Jasmin_: Can you try this command from the terminal?  SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz --replace
[06:49] <jhend60> hi
[06:50] <jhend60> i need to set global dpi on kubuntu to 96. Any1 no how?
[06:50] <jhend60> To fix logon screen
[06:51] <console_jockey> just installed gutsy.  Installed firefox and kubuntu-restricted-extra, but flash is not working.  Is this a known issue?
[06:51] <mefisto__> jhend60: system settings > appearance > fonts > force fonts dpi
[06:52] <jhend60> no
[06:52] <console_jockey> !flash
[06:52] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:52] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[06:52] <jhend60> i need to set the dpi for the logon screen itself that sets it for kde 3
[06:53] <jhend60> flash works on firefox if u download it fresh
[06:53] <firecrotch> Jasmin_: You still with us?
[06:54] <console_jockey> then should I remove flashplugin-nonfree before installing?
[06:54] <jhend60> setxdpi i will use that
[06:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[06:54] <tyson_> hello
[06:55] <tyson_> how can i prevent nexuiz from displaying across 2 monitors? :)
[06:55] <jhend60> ok tyson can you help me set dpi of logon screen
[06:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Lately I upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy, and Amarok did not change the color scheme accordingly (although it did update to 1.4.8)
[06:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Is this a common problem? Google did not know it, and there is nothing on the amarok forums about it either
[06:56] <tyson_> i'd like to be a help, but i just installed tis kubuntu today, so im a newb and dont know the answer anyway
[06:56] <jhend60> ok
[06:56] <jhend60> because i just installed it and my logon font is huge! i have to force dpi 96 for it to work
[06:57] <Zero_Point> Hello, I appear to be having one hell of a problem.
[06:58] <Zero_Point> I was forced to restart Kubuntu because it became unresponsive, and upon restarting, my IDE HDDs wouldn't show up in post.
[06:58] <Zero_Point> They show up now, but now all I get is "Error Loading OS".
[06:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Did you do anything crazy before the unresponsiveness?
[06:59] <firecrotch> Zero_Point:  Sounds like a hardware issue.  Is this 1 drive or multiple?
[06:59] <Zero_Point> I have 3 drives, 2 IDE and one SATA.
[06:59] <Zero_Point> Milhouse: I was trying to get Steam to work in Wine if that counts as crazy.
[06:59] <firecrotch> Zero_Point: IDE drives on the same cable?
[06:59] <Zero_Point> Yes.
[07:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Don't think that would damage hardware...
[07:00] <Zero_Point> That's what I thought.
[07:00] <Zero_Point> Before it gave me the "Error Loading OS" message GRUB managed to give me an "Error 2" message.
[07:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: POST is before Kubuntu, if it's wrong there, it's most likely the hardware
[07:00] <Zero_Point> That's what I'm afraid of.
[07:01] <Zero_Point> But like I said, it sees the drives just fine now.
[07:01] <jhend60> also, whhen i but kubuntu just before the usplash screen comes it says an error about resource and bridge
[07:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Grub errors are meaningful, you just have to look up what it means
[07:01] <jhend60> does that mean anything
[07:01] <firecrotch> GRUB error 2 is "Selected disk doesn't exist
[07:01] <jhend60> the line appears 9 times (resource error or something)
[07:01] <firecrotch> so the BIOS was not seeing the drive at all
[07:01] <jhend60> and then it boots fine- does this make anything not work?
[07:02] <Zero_Point> firecrotch: It sees the drives just fine as far as I can tell.
[07:03] <jhend60> #AvatarNewReleases
[07:03] <firecrotch> Zero_Point:  That's right now though.  I'm thinking faulty IDE cable
[07:03] <Zero_Point> God-dammit. Now it doesn't boot at all.
[07:03] <Zero_Point> Even pressing down the power button won't shut it off, either.
[07:04] <LamerMan> i've made a secure tcp connection over ssh, how should i close it? Is closing the ssh process that keeps that connection correct? is there some more graceful way? When i just perform kill ssh_process_id, all the ssh clients close and i need just to close one tcp over ssh coonection
[07:04] <firecrotch> How far into the POST does it get before failing?
[07:04] <Zero_Point> You mean now? Nowhere.
[07:04] <Zero_Point> Power-on, black screen. No beeps, no display.
[07:04] <firecrotch> No fans spin up, no keyboard lights flash?
[07:05] <Zero_Point> Fans spin up, didn't check the keyboard light, one sec.
[07:05] <jhend60> is it possible to start a new driver
[07:05] <jhend60> i mean channel
[07:05] <jhend60> on mirc
[07:05] <Zero_Point> NOW it's booting.
[07:05] <Zero_Point> Or it posted anyway.
[07:05] <firecrotch> jhend60:  Sure, just /join any channel you'd like to start
[07:06] <Zero_Point> I'm betting money it won't boot though.
[07:06] <Zero_Point> Sure enough.
[07:06] <firecrotch> Zero_Point: Any error code or anything?
[07:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Did you change anything hardware-wise? When I put an OEM board in a new case, it would not turn on when the PSU fan sensor was connected...
[07:10] <Zero_Point> firecrotch: No code, just "Error Loading OS". No GRUB, no options, nothing.
[07:10] <Zero_Point> Milhouse: No hardware changes. It was running just fine up until the lock-up.
[07:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Can you get in the BIOS? Maybe there is a PC health section which might tell you what is wrong already
[07:11] <Zero_Point> It was even a fresh install from this morning.
[07:11] <MilhousePunkRock> I would check for loose or obviously broken cables in the first place
[07:11] <jhend60> so can any1 help ME?
[07:12] <firecrotch> Zero_Point:  Considering the erratic behavior of this issue, I'm thinking either IDE cable or the IDE controller itself
[07:12] <firecrotch> Try unplugging the IDE cable and then booting (even if the SATA drive isn't bootable)
[07:13] <Zero_Point> God, I hope not. I can't afford another repair on this thing. Already had to replace the PSU not too long ago.
[07:14] <Zero_Point> Same thing.
[07:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Still warranty on you mainboard?
[07:14] <jasmin__> http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/92
[07:14] <Zero_Point> Dammit, this thing's not even 1.25 years old yet.
[07:14] <Zero_Point> Don't know.
[07:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Depends on your location then, here in good ol' Germany we have 2 year warranty by law
[07:15] <Qrawl> can someone tell me how to fix the bug where KDE4 doesnt recognize my sudo password
[07:15] <mefisto__> Zero_Point: can you boot with a livecd?
[07:15] <Zero_Point> I don't have my CD drive with me, nor do I have my CD.
[07:15] <Zero_Point> Guess I'm up Shit Creek for now.
[07:15] <Zero_Point> God-dammit, that means I'll have to reinstall Windows too.
[07:16] <firecrotch> Qrawl:  The only solution I've seen is to set a password for the root account
[07:16] <Qrawl> firecrotch, no. theres a link fix
[07:16] <Qrawl> but i forgot how
[07:16] <Zero_Point> Son of a bitch, there's a bare wire on this cable.
[07:17] <Zero_Point> Not a large exposure, but it's there.
[07:17] <Zero_Point> How the hell did that happen?!
[07:17] <firecrotch> Well, that would explain that
[07:17] <Zero_Point> It's not broken though, just exposed.
[07:18] <mefisto__> Zero_Point: is it an ide cable?
[07:18] <Zero_Point> Yes.
[07:18] <firecrotch> I suggest duct tape.
[07:18] <mefisto__> replace it
[07:18] <Zero_Point> I'll try that, but let me try something else first...
[07:18] <Qrawl> whats the name of the program that shows all the programs you can add
[07:19] <Zero_Point> Wish I could. Thought I had a replacement in my bag. I was wrong.
[07:19] <firecrotch> Qrawl:  Adept
[07:19] <Qrawl> no
[07:19] <Zero_Point> Synaptec?
[07:19] <MilhousePunkRock> Qrawl: Synaptic?
[07:19] <Qrawl> no
[07:19] <Zero_Point> I'm stumped then.
[07:19] <mefisto__> add/remove programs?
[07:19] <Qrawl> ok whats the command to run adept
[07:20] <Qrawl> yes
[07:20] <mefisto__> add/remove programs is "adept_installer"
[07:20] <Qrawl> ty
[07:21] <Zero_Point> Weird.
[07:21] <Zero_Point> I removed my SATA drive, and now GRUB is working.
[07:21] <Zero_Point> Experiment, I must.
[07:21] <firecrotch> Zero_Point:  Yeah, a bad IDE cable will cause all sorts of weird stuff
[07:21] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Lucky you, the IDE cable is probably the cheapest part to replace
[07:21] <Zero_Point> I have tons of spares.
[07:21] <Zero_Point> They're all baby-shit yellow though.
[07:22] <mefisto__> I don't think anyone would charge you anything at all for an ide cable
[07:22] <firecrotch> Zero_Point:  Clear case?
[07:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: So you have a transparent case?
[07:22] <Zero_Point> Nope.
[07:22] <Zero_Point> Well, the fans in the side are so large it might as well be clear. :V
[07:22] <firecrotch> Ah
[07:22] <MilhousePunkRock> mefisto__: I could try walking into the store today and ask them to give me a free IDE cable, I bet they won't...
[07:24] <mefisto__> MilhousePunkRock: how much would they charge? I always get stuff like that for free. Unless it's a large dept store or something
[07:24] <firecrotch> I guess something like that would depend on how large of a store it is and how often you shop there.  A smaller store that you *always* go to would be more likely to help you out in that department
[07:25] <MilhousePunkRock> mefisto__: Probably in combination with a new HDD at the friendly PC store at the corner (which we don't have here anyway)...
[07:26] <mefisto__> all videos played in xine players are displaying incorrect aspect ratio. If I "disable all video scaling" in kaffeine, the aspect ratio is correct (but too small, of course). Does anyone know what's going on?
[07:26] <Zero_Point> I'll just swap in a random one, see how that goes.
[07:26] <Zero_Point> But first, a test...
[07:27] <Ahmuck> i have a zip drive, and it's properly mounted however no icon is showing up on the desktop, neither is it showing up in "storage media".  any idea why?
[07:27] <Zero_Point> And now the SATA drive is back in, and it's loading up fine.
[07:27] <Zero_Point> Man, Linux is such a headache. :V
[07:28] <Zero_Point> But for now, I must acquire some tape.
[07:28] <Zero_Point> Thank you for your help, gentlemen.
[07:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Linux did not remove the isolation from the IDE cable, that's for sure ;)
[07:30] <Zero_Point> Well, when you run Linux all day, only to have it lock-up, and you've butted-heads with it in the past, you make assumptions. :V
[07:30] <Zero_Point> And I wouldn't put it past it...
[07:31] <val0> what's the command to start your kde? I restarted in the console mode and can't can back in :D
[07:32] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[07:32] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: thanks
[07:34] <ScorpKing> hi everyone. how can i assign a static ip to a network bridge?
[07:38] <Zero_Point> Christ, that was a scare though. I think I'll be running XP for the rest of the night.
[07:39] <val0> ok well that didn't work all too well. I was an idiot and decided to try and install AGAIN the Nvidia driver. And again it messed my system up. Everything went fine except that it I think recompiled my kernel and tried to make some changes to the xorg.conf but I didn't let it make them. Now when I boot it bumps me into console mode and I can't get out :D
[07:40] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: What's wrong with the NVidia driver from the repo?
[07:43] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to begin with
[07:43] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: 1. couldn't get it to work with the nvidia config console 2. the repo driver doesn't detect mine monitor propperly, nvidia driver does. I can't set max resolution with the repo driver either... I had it working once. I tried to follow the same steps as before, just this time it didn't work
[07:43] <val0> ok
[07:43] <Zero_Point> Gah, now when Kubuntu loads all I get is a black screen.
[07:44] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: Just set the monitor yourself and you will be fine
[07:45] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: I tried setting the monitor myself, my manufacturer/model do not exist. I just ran the command you asked: Package xserv-org is not installed and no info available.
[07:46] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: I wrote "xerver-xorg"
[07:49] <Zero_Point> Any ideas?
[07:49] <Zero_Point> If I press a key, I get the console. I entered the sudo command you mentioned earlier Milhouse, but it's still black.
[07:50] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: good thing you can't blush over IRC :( done. It ran me through a config. Should I just reboot?
[07:50] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: Won't hurt, but is probably not neccessary... Just restart kdm
[07:51] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: the kdm restart command?
[07:51] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[07:51] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: thanks, got it
[07:54] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: ok, i ran that command. The screen turned black and the cursor was blinking in the top left corner. I could type things but nothing happend. I changed consoles and saw Stopping K Display Manager: kdm /Starting ... but nothing happend
[07:55] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: could it be that since i had the "Console Login" option selected when installing Nvidia driver it now automatically uses console for login?
[07:56] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: Well, you can change the session type in KDM
[07:56] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: how does one do that?
[07:56] <RobotGuy> What would cause Kubuntu to lock up on a USB device initialization??
[07:57] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: plus doesn't Alt-F7 supposed to return you to the KDE?
[07:58] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: If KDM does not start at all, something is wrong with your xorg.conf. Just replace it with the backup you created before installing the nvidia driver in an unsupported way...
[07:58] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: i actually have one. Made it just before tried installing the new driver...
[07:59] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: sudo cp <backup> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:59] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: i was hoping to keep the nvidia one
[08:00] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: done and now just restart the kdm again?
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: The driver is either nvidia, nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new or whatever, just change that line in the file... It could also help if you looked at the /var/log/xorg.0.log to see what the actual problem is...
[08:02] <ScorpKing> !bridge > me
[08:05] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: ok the first sign on trouble that i see is "Failed to initialize the Nvidia kernel module... Screens found but none have usable config... Fatal server error. No screens found"
[08:06] <sigma_1234> where does the file sharing app in kcontrol store its configuration information?
[08:06] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: Reconfigure the xserver again
[08:07] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: ok brb
[08:07] <noaXess> !video
[08:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:24] <blackflag> hello all :)
[08:24] <davies> hi blackflag
[08:24] <MilhousePunkRock> !hi > blackflag
[08:24] <blackflag> when I have kernel patches for a kernel 2.6.11 but I need a kernel 2.6.16
[08:28] <blackflag> !hi do you have a jabber account? > MilhousePunkRock
[08:29] <blackflag> what is to do when I want to port that kernel patches from.11 to .16?
[08:29] <MilhousePunkRock> blackflag: .16 is already somewhat old, maybe the patches are included already?
[08:29] <MilhousePunkRock> blackflag: And about jabber, I queried you
[08:29] <blackflag> no, its for the great openssi project
[08:30] <MilhousePunkRock> which I do know nothing about
[08:30] <blackflag> okay, opensssi.org
[08:30] <blackflag> http://openssi.org
[08:30] <se7en_> level1_:
[08:31] <Zero_Point> How do I change to root in the console?
[08:31] <davies> Zero_Point: sudo -s
[08:31] <Zero_Point> Thanks.
[08:32] <val0_> MilhousePunkRock: everything worked great... thanks a lot for all your help... I am back to where I was and some! It's using the Nvidia driver so my monitor was detected correctly and the resolution is higher now! Thanks again
[08:32] <MilhousePunkRock> val0_: You're welcome, nice that I could help...
[08:32] <blackflag> ! you can add me with blackflag@nopanicsystems.org > MilhousePunkRock
[08:33] <MilhousePunkRock> blackflag: the leading ! is to trigger the bot...
[08:34] <val0_> MilhousePunkRock: how does one close a tty session? I googled and cant find it
[08:35] <MilhousePunkRock> val0_: just type "exit"
[08:35] <Zero_Point> I'm having problems as well. Still getting that black screen when Kubuntu loads.
[08:36] <Zero_Point> I can enter the console when I press a key though... Any ideas?
[08:37] <val0_> MilhousePunkRock: it just logs me out but the session is still open... Maybe I phrased the questions wrong... I want to completely close the session
[08:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Problems with your xorg configuration, most likely
[08:37] <Zero_Point> How would I go about fixing that?
[08:37] <MilhousePunkRock> val0_: on tty1-6? I think you cant
[08:37] <val0_> MilhousePunkRock: yep there
[08:38] <val0_> MilhousePunkRock: you can't?
[08:38] <MilhousePunkRock> val0_: AFAIK the login prompt will always remain there
[08:38] <MilhousePunkRock> unless you limit the number of tty's
[08:38] <val0_> MilhousePunkRock: i see, never knew that... thanks
[08:47] <motanel> is there some way i can change the shortcut to kill X from ctrl+alt+backspace?
[08:47] <motanel> it's the 2nd time i've pressed that by mistake
[08:48] <Zero_Point> Hallelujah, I'm back in. Thanks for your help once again.
[08:53] <JohnFlux> motanel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146590
[08:54] <motanel> JohnFlux: thank you
[08:54] <JohnFlux> motanel: it was the first hit on google :P
[08:55] <motanel> oh, right ... sorry, i completely forgot about that
[08:55] <motanel> i got carried away playing with wine
[08:55] <Kubuntuuser> hey
[08:55] <Kubuntuuser> can someone help me please
[08:55] <Kubuntuuser> =x
[08:55] <Kubuntuuser> haha
[08:56] <Kubuntuuser> I have kubuntu...
[08:56] <Kubuntuuser> and I would like to install beryl
[08:56] <Kubuntuuser> I am having trouble doing so
[08:56] <davies> !berly | Kubuntuuser
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about berly - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <davies> !beryl | Kubuntuuser
[08:56] <ubotu> Kubuntuuser: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[08:56] <Kubuntuuser> Also how can i download firefox also
[08:56] <Kubuntuuser> Its not working
[08:56] <davies> !firefox | Kubuntuuser
[08:56] <ubotu> Kubuntuuser: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:57] <motanel> and how can i set it as my default browser? i tried doing so from the ff preferences but it didn't work
[08:57] <davies> motanel: set it in System Settings
[08:58] <Kubuntuuser> I have kubuntu 7.10 though
[08:59] <davies> Kubuntuuser: open the console and type: sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:59] <Kubuntuuser> it says the file is missing maybe
[08:59] <motanel> i think i missed that, too. it works, thanks
[08:59] <Kubuntuuser> something like that
[09:00] <Kubuntuuser> it says
[09:00] <Kubuntuuser> the list of sources could not be read
[09:01] <val0_> Kubuntuuser: do you have access to Add/Remove Programs?
[09:02] <Kubuntuuser> it says....
[09:02] <respatix_> I just got a nvidia 6200.   how do I get the 3d eye candy i think its calle beryl installed and running?
[09:02] <Kubuntuuser> The APT Database could not be opened!  This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem.  Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem..
[09:02] <davies> !beryl > respatix_
[09:03] <Kubuntuuser> and I tried tose two things
[09:03] <davies> !compiz > respatix_
[09:03] <Kubuntuuser> and i get some errors
[09:03] <emilsedgh> !adeptfix | Kubuntuuser
[09:03] <ubotu> Kubuntuuser: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: Â« sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a Â»
[09:03] <val0_> Kubuntuuser: did you try what it suggests??
[09:03] <davies> val0_: < Kubuntuuser> and I tried tose two things
[09:03] <Kubuntuuser> on the second one i get http://packages.medibuntu.org/' is not known on line 77 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:04] <val0_> davies: ok cool thanks for letting me know so we don't waste time
[09:04] <davies> !source-o-matic > Kubuntuuser
[09:06] <Stilo> hi! Whats the name of the screenshot prog which can do shots of my compiz cube.. i forgot it
[09:10] <ArnaudSVT> Bonjour Ă  tous, est-ce que quelqu'un parle franĂ§ais ?
[09:11] <davies> !fr | ArnaudSVT
[09:11] <ubotu> ArnaudSVT: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:11] <ArnaudSVT> Thank you !
[09:15] <Stilo> nobody knows a little screenshot prog
[09:15] <Stilo> ?
[09:16] <val0_> !Ksnapshot | Stilo
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksnapshot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <davies> !info ksnapshot | Stilo
[09:17] <ubotu> stilo: ksnapshot (source: kdegraphics): screenshot utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 173 kB, installed size 432 kB
[09:19] <Stilo> val0_ : thanks!
[09:19] <Kubuntuuser> I cant find system>administrator
[09:19] <xtremcer> hello
[09:19] <motanel> damn kubuntu! made me miss a job interview :/
[09:19] <Kubuntuuser> lol
[09:19] <val0_> lol
[09:19] <xtremcer> ^_^
[09:19] <xtremcer> why
[09:20] <motanel> i got trapped reading some forums
[09:20] <motanel> and i was supposed to be there 20 minutes ago
[09:24] <blizzzek-kde4> moin
[09:27] <solusipse02> What's going on everyone?
[09:30] <xtremcer> Updating by Adept
[09:34] <gr1fel> ĐșĐ°Đș ŃŃŃĐ°ĐœĐ°ĐČĐ»ĐžĐČĐ°ŃŃ .bin ŃĐ°ĐčĐ»Ń?
[09:35] <respatix_> how do I enable multiverse and universe in kubuntu
[09:35] <respatix_> how do I enable multiverse and universe in kubuntu?
[09:35] <davies> !repeat | respatix_
[09:35] <ubotu> respatix_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:36] <davies> respatix_: in /etc/apt/sources.list, uncomment the lines
[09:36] <jussi01> respatix_: system -> adept -> manage repositories -> click the boxes
[09:36] <respatix_> jussi01: I dont have adept.
[09:37] <ltuval> jh
[09:38] <jussi01> respatix_: really? do you have synaptic?
[09:41] <respatix_> jussi01: no, it was a linuxmce kubuntu install so they dont have those by default bc automatic update i guess would mess things up.
[09:41] <val0_> does anyone here run irssi?
[09:41] <respatix_> but i think repostitories already enabled.
[09:42] <davies> val0_: me :)
[09:42] <Ayabara> I have an asus laptop. In KMix I see 3 controls for output volume, PCM, Front and PC Speaker. The volume applet controls the latter. I need to fix it so that I have only PCM and Master Volume (like in Ubuntu).
[09:42] <respatix_> I'm just trying to install and use envy to get the right driver for my new nvidia 6200 card
[09:42] <jussi01> respatix_: we dont support those in here. I suggest you do a complete  reinstall with a real version of kubuntu.
[09:42] <jussi01> val0_: me also
[09:42] <Ayabara> val0_: and me :-)
[09:43] <davies> !variant | respatix_
[09:43] <ubotu> respatix_: !GTK and !Qt are !GUI toolkits (i.e. software libraries that draw buttons, textboxes, etc). !GNOME, !KDE, !Xfce and friends are "!desktop environments", which build on top of such libraries to provide a "consistent" desktop experience. !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu
[09:43] <davies> er..
[09:43] <jussi01> !mint
[09:43] <ubotu> The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[09:43] <val0_> davies , jussi01 , Ayabara : do you know if it is possible to run the /list command with a search parameter or do you need a script. the only thing i found about /list is -Yes
[09:44] <davies> val0_: maybe /help list?
[09:44] <Ayabara> val0_: out of my league :-/
[09:45] <jussi01> val0_: best place to ask would be #irssi
[09:46] <val0_> jussi01: i already did. 270 users are peacefully asleep on their keyboards :D
[09:46] <Ayabara> Is this the channel for sound questions on Kubuntu, or should I ask in #alsa?
[09:46] <jussi01> Ayabara: both
[09:46] <jussi01> !night
[09:46] <ubotu> It's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds.  This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question.  Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake.  This is particularly true in the quieter channels.
[09:46] <val0_> davies: i ran that... suggests /SQUERY ALIS HELP, /SQUERY returns no such command
[09:46] <jussi01> Us anyway,,,
[09:47] <Ayabara> jussi01: ok. it's working like it should in gnome, and not in kde, so I guess it's this channel
[09:47] <davies> val0_: "Thus, on IRCNet..."
[09:48] <val0_> davies: i know, but sometimes the commands are interchangable, also there was no option specifically for freenode so i thought that it might work
[09:49] <Ayabara> !day
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about day - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <Ayabara> just wondering..
[09:49] <gr1fel> hello
[09:50] <gr1fel> how to install .bin files?
[09:50] <val0_> !bin | gr1fel
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <val0_> lol
[09:50] <val0_> gr1fel: you can mount it
[09:51] <jussi01> gr1fel: what are you trying to install?
[09:51] <val0_> gr1fel: or you can burn it
[09:51] <gr1fel>  <jussi01>, flex :)
[09:52] <Ayabara> does anyone know how I can setup my laptop media keys? I was told that with kmilo installed, I should be able to do it in system prefs, but I can't find the place
[09:52] <jussi01> !info flex | gr1fel
[09:52] <ubotu> gr1fel: flex (source: flex): A fast lexical analyzer generator.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.33-12build1 (gutsy), package size 229 kB, installed size 964 kB
[09:52] <jussi01> gr1fel: is that the one? then it is in the repos...
[09:52] <jussi01> !shortcuts | Ayabara
[09:52] <ubotu> Ayabara: keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[09:54] <noaXess> what about this l if there should be a ĂŒ?
[09:55] <noaXess> in d3lphin and konquerror.
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[09:55] <jussi01> !tab > gr1fel
[09:56] <jussi01> gr1fel: have you tried installing it as it says on the site there?
[09:57] <Mediapirate> does anyone here use griP/
[09:57] <Mediapirate> ?
[09:57] <ssteo> grip or grep?
[09:58] <Mediapirate> grip
[09:58] <Mediapirate> for ripping cd's
[09:58] <ssteo> nope, i dont
[09:59] <CJari> hi
[09:59] <Mediapirate> ok thanks....how are you ssteo?
[09:59] <Mediapirate> hi cjari
[09:59] <Mediapirate> hows you?
[10:00] <CJari> I don't know why my kubuntu wont start to desktop anymore, it only loads the shell and asks for login
[10:00] <jussi01> gr1fel: ie, go to terminal as it says, go to the folder where the .bin is, (on the desktop then cd ~/Desktop) then run: chmod +x flexbuilder_linux_install_a2_121807.bin when thats done do: sh flexbuilder_linux_install_a2_121807.bin
[10:00] <CJari> is there a way to fix this? or manually start the xserver(?) ?
[10:01] <jussi01> CJari: try logging in, then typig startx
[10:01] <gr1fel> thanks
[10:01] <CJari> jussi01 : ok I tried but it fails to some errors
[10:02] <jussi01> CJari: ok. what did you do to cause this?
[10:02] <NorthByNorthWest> Hi all! I migrated from XP to Ubuntu in dec 2006, now I'd like to try KDE and Kubuntu... it simply seems to have a more professional finish! Id like som adice... I guess I can install kubuntu by 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'? Will I get KDE4 then?
[10:02] <jussi01> NorthByNorthWest: that will get you kubuntu, not kde4
[10:02] <jussi01> !kde4 | NorthByNorthWest
[10:02] <ubotu> NorthByNorthWest: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[10:03] <CJari> jussi01 : the last thing was that I used a dual monitor and the xorg settings had to be changed
[10:03] <CJari> then I just quitted
[10:03] <jussi01> CJari: ok, did you back up your old xorg?
[10:04] <NorthByNorthWest> jussi01: shall i install the kubuntu-desktop and then install kde4-core?
[10:04] <_new_kubuntu> hello - any kde ftp client (graphical) ?
[10:05] <jussi01> NorthByNorthWest: kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4 ;)
[10:05] <jussi01> !ftp | _new_kubuntu
[10:05] <ubotu> _new_kubuntu: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:05] <jussi01> _new_kubuntu: konqueror is by far the easiest
[10:05] <jussi01> imho
[10:05] <CJari> jussi01 : yes I just found the correct backup and it works now :) (too many backups)
[10:06] <jussi01> CJari: :)
[10:06] <bazhang> konqueror is good for that _new_kubuntu
[10:06] <jussi01> _new_kubuntu: just put the ftp address in the address bar
[10:07] <NorthByNorthWest> jussi01: I saw that forum, but its desciption said "if you run KDE3 go to #kubuntu", since Im running GNOME I didnt know where to go! :) Ill go bugger KDE4-forums instead!
[10:08] <_new_kubuntu> lol konqueror do it well - Thakns boys.girls :)
[10:12] <jared> Hey guys
[10:12] <jared> I wanna do this thing that I can do on windows
[10:12] <jared> it's in accesibilty options
[10:12] <jussi01> jared: we need a little bit more info than that...
[10:12] <jared> I want to press a button on my keyboard that makes my mouse click
[10:13] <jared> lol
[10:13] <jussi01> right or left?
[10:13] <jared> left
[10:14] <jussi01> gah, I know you can do it, cant remember where atme...
[10:15] <jared> lol
[10:15] <jared> theres a shortcut thing in accessibilty
[10:15] <jared> but I dunno how to do click
[10:16] <jared> !input actions
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about input actions - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <jared> !input
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about input - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <jussi01> !shortcuts
[10:16] <ubotu> keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[10:17] <jussi01> !botabuse > jared
[10:17] <jussi01> :)
[10:17] <jared> lol
[10:17] <jared> thx will try
[10:18] <Dioxin> anyone got any experience installing ATI drivers... my downloads seem to fail on extraction :-(
[10:18] <jared> wat do I do in the Keyboard & mouse?
[10:21] <jussi01> Dioxin: what? are you not installing through restricted manager?
[10:22] <jussi01> !ati | Dioxin
[10:22] <ubotu> Dioxin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:22] <jared> jussi01: is it mouse emulation?
[10:23] <jussi01> jared: I think that would be a correct term.
[10:23] <jared> I can't get it to work
[10:23] <jared> just does nothing
[10:23] <jussi01> jared: Im sorry, I dont know then.
[10:23] <jared> would you be able to try?
[10:24] <jussi01> not atm, im a little busy.
[10:24] <jared> could someone please try to get mouse emulation to work, and tell me if they could get it working?
[10:25] <jared> nothing ever works for me in any linux distros
[10:26] <Dioxin> cheers Jussi01 reading over it now
[10:26] <jared> what is kcontrol?
[10:26] <emilsedgh> kcontrol is the control panel of KDE 3
[10:27] <jared> and how do I get to it?
[10:27] <emilsedgh> run kcontrol command
[10:27] <jared> by doing?
[10:27] <emilsedgh> alt+f2, run kcontrol
[10:27] <jared> k
[10:29] <jared> Input actions isn't here, ubotu lied
[10:30] <jared> not much help in here today...
[10:30] <davies> either that, or we just don't know..
[10:30] <jared> lol
[10:31] <jared> could you try making a mouse emulator?
[10:31] <jared> c if urs works
[10:31] <snikker> when i start the pc i've got the "find" and "sort" conmmands running. how can i disable this?
[10:31] <jared> its in Keyboard & Mouse - System Settings
[10:31] <davies> jared: I'm on KDE4 right now
[10:31] <jared> daves: is there a difference? and how do you know im not on KDE 4?
[10:32] <jared> *davies
[10:32] <davies> jared: because you're on #kubuntu and not #kubuntu-kde4 :D
[10:32] <jared> lol
[10:34] <jared> grr
[10:34] <jared> nothign ever works, this is so annoying
[10:34] <davies> jared: and I can't find it in kde4 system settings
[10:34] <jared> lolk
[10:37] <ESL|Doomy> anyone can play with Everest poker on Kubuntu ?
[10:38] <thanasi> !wine > me
[10:38] <davies> thanasi: no, beer!
[10:39] <thanasi> hehe ;)
[10:39] <thanasi> is there a channel for wine?
[10:39] <davies> #wine?
[10:39] <thanasi> ah. #wine
[10:39] <thanasi> ty :)
[10:43] <thanasi> anyone here know how to register .ocx and .dll files manually with wine?
[10:45] <habdel> hi there, I can't login to gnome anymore !! and I am not able to trace the error using .xsession-errors
[10:46] <jussi01> habdel: try #ubuntu
[10:46] <BillGGates> hey Hey
[10:46] <jussi01> !nickspam > BillGGates
[10:46] <habdel> jussi01: I am using kubuntu, kde is working fine expect wine's products and gnome
[10:46] <BillGGates> huh
[10:46] <BillGGates> whats a nickspam ?
[10:46] <jared> ur changing ur nick
[10:46] <jared> people think thats spam
[10:47] <BillGGates> oh
[10:47] <BillGGates> <---- Noob dunno too much about this chat thing
[10:47] <jussi01> BillGGates: you should have got a private message
[10:47] <davies> BillGGates: see private msg from ubotu
[10:47] <BillGGates> i just come here for help if anyone can help !
[10:47] <thanasi> !irc
[10:47] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[10:47] <jussi01> !ask | BillGGates
[10:47] <ubotu> BillGGates: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[10:47] <thanasi> hmm..
[10:47] <BillGGates> ok deal
[10:48] <habdel> kdm crashes when using wine's applications !! o.O any idea !!
[10:48] <jared> buy a new computer
[10:49] <BillGGates> Ok if any1 can help please,,,, I am having trouble with "nspluginviewer" i just installed Kubuntu and the flash player thingi doesnt work... i would like to dload the plugin some how but it doesnt seem to work very well !
[10:49] <ere4si> that's not helpful jared - ask on #winehq habdel
[10:50] <jussi01> !flash | BillGGates
[10:50] <ubotu> BillGGates: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:50] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[10:50] <habdel> ere4si: then should I also report gnome issue to #gnome
[10:50] <habdel> o.O .. it is not wine's specific
[10:51] <Jimche> ok thanks Ubotu ill give it a go... cheers
[10:51] <ere4si> have you tried fsck habbdel? - some more info might help :)
[10:51] <gladier> question - download manager with gui that will prompt for username and password and store it in a "wallet" (doesnt have to be the kde wallet) and will automatically add files to a queue without asking where to download etc etc etc ...
[10:52] <jared> jim, ubotu is a robot, lol
[10:52] <jared> jimche, ubotu is a robot, lol
[10:52] <habdel> ere4si: I can use kde without a problem, but whenever I try to run a wine's application, the X Server crashes. Also, I can login to gnome using metacity but I can using openbox and window manager
[10:53] <jared> any1 kno how to get the mouse emulator working/
[10:53] <gladier> habdel: are you using any unstable repos?
[10:53] <jussi01> !thanks | Jimche
[10:53] <ubotu> Jimche: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:53] <jared> lol
[10:53] <habdel> gladier: no, it is gutsy. The last thing that I have tried to install is kde4
[10:54] <jared> theres ur problem
[10:54] <ere4si> habdel: done any updates lately? - they can make it necessary to reinstall your vid drivers
[10:54] <gladier> habdel: which howto did you follow?
[10:54] <matts> hey...so what is going on in here<
[10:55] <Jimche> Ok now umm it says stuff about Ubuntu... does it matter that i am using Kubuntu ? it says that i should dload the appropriate software such as "feisty fawn, edgy and drake something" ????
[10:55] <habdel> ere4si: yes, I have but I don't remember xorg-related packages being updated, gladier using the one on kubuntu.org
[10:55] <gladier> link?
[10:56] <gladier> you tried reverting from nvidia/nv/ati/flgrx to vesa?
[10:56] <jared> any1 kno how to get the mouse emulator working/
[10:56] <matisse> how do i check a gpg file hash ?
[10:56] <habdel> gladier: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php , no I haven't since kde is working fine
[10:56] <jared> any1 kno how to get the mouse emulator working?
[10:56] <ere4si> check xorg for changes - happens sometimes
[10:57] <habdel> gladier: the current .xsession-errors file contains http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53536/
[10:57] <gladier> habdel: how did you use that link to install kde4?
[10:58] <jared> any1 kno how to get the mouse emulator working?
[10:58] <jared> !nickspam | jimche
[10:58] <ubotu> jimche: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #kubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also /msg ubotu Guidelines
[10:58] <habdel> gladier: I have added, the ppa's repo. then installed kde4-core
[10:58] <gladier> gah .. kde4-core will pull a heap of other junk
[10:59] <Jimche> Jussi01 can i msg you please
[10:59] <jared> any1 kno how to get the mouse emulator working?
[11:00] <davies> jared: maybe #kde can help?
[11:00] <habdel> gladier: the strange thing is that gnome, and wine are the only one affected. the .xsession-errors file is not usefull
[11:00] <hola> im not able to share my ppp0 interface between host and client
[11:00] <jussi01> !pm | Jimche
[11:00] <ubotu> Jimche: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[11:00] <jussi01> Jimche: what do you need?
[11:00] <sonoftheclayr> Has anybody managed to successfully install Ruby on Rails?
[11:01] <gladier> habdel: start over what the problem is .... ive walked in halfway through the problem
[11:02] <Jimche> i am trying to dload the flash player thingy "gnome" or something and i dunno what im doing ;/
[11:02] <jared> the people st #kde got it working straght away
[11:02] <jared> noobs
[11:03] <habdel> gladier: ok, everytime I try to run any wine's application, X Server crashes. Also, when I try to login to gnome using metacity as window manager, X Server will crash also. However it doesn't crash if openbox is the window manager for gnome
[11:05] <smith_> habdel: other than looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old i'm not sure ther's much you can do
[11:05] <hola> im not able to share my ppp0 interface between host and client
[11:05] <gladier> habdel: tbh if it was me ... i would save a list of all the packages i have installed with dselect .. and blow away my installation and start from scratch
[11:06] <dazjorz> Hi
[11:06] <dazjorz> I just inserted the Kubuntu livecd to a computer to show Kubuntu to someone
[11:06] <dazjorz> and when initialising KDE, the screen blanked, and it's still black
[11:06] <dazjorz> is there anything I can do ?
[11:06] <habdel> gladier: just wanted to be sure that is hopeless before doing so.
[11:07] <smith_> hola: with no firewall you would 'echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward'
[11:07] <dazjorz> Oh, nevermind
[11:07] <gladier> no such thing as hopeless
[11:07] <gladier> just sometimes quicker to wipe :)
[11:07] <smith_> and 'iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -i ppp0 -j MASQUERADE'
[11:07] <Jimche> this linux feels hopeless for a noob like me
[11:07]  * habdel checking Xorg.0.log
[11:08] <jussi01> Jimche: flsh is broken atm. Its not our fault, its adobes.
[11:09] <hola> smith_: i 've a problem, even if i start the comunad eith sudo, it said: bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[11:09] <Jimche> ok whats the alternative ?
[11:09] <jussi01> Jimche: there is a way to install it maunally, but its a bit tricky.
[11:10] <Jimche> ah great there goes my chances.... im having trouble installing the basic stuff let allone the more difficult stuff
[11:10] <habdel> thanks, guys it seems to be nvidia's bug. I will try to recompile it from sources
[11:11] <dazjorz> another bug: you can't get to the storage area with the livecd
[11:11] <dazjorz> well, you can, but you need to use sudo
[11:11] <smith_> hola: try editing /etc/sysctl.conf    uncomment or put in 'net.ipv4.ip_forward=1'
[11:11] <dazjorz> in terminal, you can't get there with dolphin because of a HAL error
[11:11] <Jimche> Does every1 that has Linux have trouble using a flash player cause of Adobe ?
[11:11] <jussi01> Jimche: then the alternative is to wait. Im sorry.
[11:11] <smith_> then reboot
[11:11] <Jimche> thats cool thanks for your time anyway
[11:12] <jussi01> Jimche: wait a sec
[11:12] <smith_> Jimche: are you running hardy ?
[11:12] <Jimche> whats a "hardy''  ?
[11:13] <hola> smith_: i 've a problem, even if i start the comunad eith sudo, it said: bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[11:13] <jussi01> Jimche: never mind, your not
[11:13] <hola> smith_: i did what you suggested me, and now what i have to do?
[11:13] <jussi01> !hardy
[11:13] <ubotu> hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[11:13] <jussi01> Jimche: download this: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=53648&stc=1&d=1198033466
[11:13] <smith_> the lastest version of flash doesn't work with konqueror in hardy, its the alpha version
[11:14] <jussi01> smith_: flash is broken for all new installs atm.
[11:14] <Jimche> is it easy to do ? cause im very new at all this and i have not had very much luck with Linux thus far
[11:14] <ForgeAus> I didn't know flash worked in konqi at all, generally its firefox
[11:15] <jussi01> Jimche: I will walk you through it
[11:15] <Jimche> :D Cheers
[11:15] <smith_> hola: reboot if you've edited /etc/sysctl.conf
[11:16] <jussi01> Jimche: let me know when you have that downloaded
[11:16] <Jimche> It doesnt let me have permission to load the page unless i register
[11:16] <jussi01> Jimche: ok, register then.  :)
[11:16] <jussi01> (its free)
[11:17] <smith_> well, flash should work in kde since it's the default browser
[11:18] <smith_> i hope they've made fixing it up a top priority
[11:18] <jussi01> !flash > smith_
[11:18] <jussi01> smith_: go read the forum thread there
[11:18] <smith_> yeah, i know all that, I know
[11:19] <jussi01> smith_: read the thread. ggot all the info, including resoning for what they are doing.'
[11:20] <smith_> if you're desperate you can install an old version of flash
[11:21] <jussi01> Jimche: hows it going?
[11:21] <Jimche> almost there
[11:22] <jussi01> :)
[11:23] <Jimche> Im a bit slow off the mark but ill get there, i dont wanna go back to windows
[11:23] <jeremiah_> helo!
[11:23] <jussi01> Jimche: dont worry, we will get yu there. its all about attitude
[11:23] <jeremiah_> im new in kubuntu,i would really appreciate if someone cud help me
[11:24]  * Jimche dances
[11:25] <jeremiah_> how do i install my canon pixma printer?i don't have the driver for kubuntu only for windows
[11:26] <jeremiah_> help anyone?
[11:26] <jussi01> !printers
[11:26] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:26] <hola> smith_: ok but a question, why i was not able to do sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward?
[11:27] <magical_trevsky> hola, you can't use sudo with echo
[11:27] <magical_trevsky> hola, do "sudo bash", then run the echo command without sudo in front
[11:27] <Jimche> Ok Jussi01 i think i have downloaded it
[11:28] <jussi01> Jimche: ok, cool. now try double clicking it. (i assume its on your desktop)
[11:28] <hola> magical_trevsky: ok it works, may you explain me why?
[11:28] <jeremiah_> if you install kubuntu 7.10 dvd is it already kde 4.0?
[11:28] <jussi01> jeremiah_: no
[11:28] <magical_trevsky> hola, I think it's because echo is a built in function of the shell
[11:29] <jeremiah_> :( it still kde 3.5.8?
[11:30] <jussi01> !kde4 | jeremiah_
[11:30] <ubotu> jeremiah_: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[11:31] <hola> magical_trevsky: sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -i ppp0 -j MASQUERADE and it said that iptables v1.3.6: Can't use -i with POSTROUTING
[11:31] <jeremiah_> ok thnks,but when i tried to download install it,i got to versions of every applications of both 3.5.8 and 4.0
[11:32] <magical_trevsky> hola, take out the "-i ppp0" then :p
[11:32] <jeremiah_> i mean i got 2 versions of applications from 3.5.8 to 4.0
[11:33] <jussi01> jeremiah_: there is a kde4 live cd
[11:33] <jeremiah_> ok i'll download and try it
[11:33] <jussi01> Jimche: how did that go?
[11:33] <jeremiah_> thnks!
[11:35] <Jimche> umm im not too sure, the dialog box asked me if i wanted to install it and i clicked it and then another dialog box came up blank and i waited for a few minutes and then it disapeared.... ? did it work ?
[11:35] <jussi01> Jimche: yep, that worked. :)
[11:35] <jussi01> Jimche: now you need to install firefox
[11:35] <Jimche> ah ok
[11:36] <Jimche> do i dload it the normal way
[11:36] <jussi01> Jimche: go to system -> adept -> search for firefox
[11:36] <jussi01> Jimche: no, you should always look in adept for programs
[11:36] <Jimche> i think i like Linux
[11:36] <smith_> hola: my mistake should be -o
[11:36] <Jimche> ok ill do it no
[11:36] <Jimche> w
[11:38] <Jimche> i might be asking a dumb question but since i now use Kubuntu, does that mean i dont have the problems that i used to have with windows such as, computer crashing,viruses, spam stuff like that ?
[11:38] <jussi01> !virus | Jimche
[11:38] <ubotu> Jimche: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[11:38] <sigma_1234> how do i get my computer to shut down at 10pm every day?
[11:38] <Jimche> ?
[11:38] <hola> smith_: ok and now i can create a bridge and so vbox interface?
[11:39] <jussi01> Jimche: no virus's.
[11:39] <Jimche> ah ok
[11:39] <Jimche> !virus
[11:39] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[11:41] <magical_trevsky> sigma_1234, make a cron job for root that runs "shutdown -h now"
[11:41] <jussi01> Jimche: all ok?
[11:41] <Jimche> just cheking now
[11:41] <magical_trevsky> although that's probably not a very safe idea, if you screw up the syntax of the crontab
[11:41] <sigma_1234> how do i make a cron job?
[11:41] <jussi01> !cron | sigma_1234
[11:41] <ubotu> sigma_1234: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[11:42] <Jimche> YaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaY
[11:42]  * Jimche dances
[11:42] <jussi01> Jimche: :)
[11:42] <Jimche> Thanks HEAPS Juss
[11:42] <Jimche> Umm can i bug you more or should i come bak another time ?
[11:42] <jussi01> Jimche: what else do you need to know?
[11:42] <Jimche> im still trying to set up the computer
[11:42] <jussi01> Jimche: remember google is your friend also :)
[11:43] <bazhang> and ubuntuforums as well
[11:43] <magical_trevsky> jussi01, www.google.com/linux is a good way of finding things
[11:44] <Snew> google.com/linux helped me alot, too !
[11:44] <Jimche> Hmm ok... Linux recodnises my printer but when i print stuff its blank.... (cartridge you might say... i bought a new one and still no go) my gf conected her laptop which is running scummy windows and it works Fine !!! i tried it again and still to no avail. i tried changing the setting but again  :( no luck... any clues as to what i should do ?
[11:45] <jussi01> Jimche: printer type?
[11:45] <Jimche> Hp deskjet 3550
[11:45] <Lynoure> Jimche: If your printer has a test page button, try with that. If it prints blank too, it's 100% clearly a fault in the printer
[11:46] <sigma_1234> hp's shouldnt have issues
[11:46] <Jimche> Yes thats what i thought until my gf printed with her computer :/
[11:46] <Jimche> with no problems
[11:47] <magical_trevsky> Jimche, did you use the HPLIP toolbox to set it up?
[11:47] <magical_trevsky> (under system in the kmenu)
[11:47] <ibou> hi
[11:47] <Jimche> yes
[11:47] <Lynoure> Jimche: even though the pressing hardware button on your physical printer also results in an empty page? Weird.
[11:49] <Jimche> before i put linux on this computer i was running windows and it worked also, next day linux gets installed an no luck, i tried looking at that on the forums but i didnt think that it was aproblem that many had had
[11:49] <the-erm> Anyone know the name of the program that is similar to kdialog but written in gtk?
[11:50] <ere4si> the-erm, what does kdialog do again?
[11:51] <SSJ_GZ> the-erm: zenity
[11:51] <the-erm> ere4si: well you can do various inputs with it ... error message warning dialogs, yes/no radio buttons lots of stuff really.
[11:51] <sebastian^> good morning folks :)
[11:51] <the-erm> SSJ_GZ: that's it thanks.
[11:51] <SSJ_GZ> np
[11:51] <ere4si> the-erm,  I use zenity
[11:52] <the-erm> Is there program out there that you could use to a simple dialog ... but grouped like kdialog & zenity?
[11:52] <ere4si> the-erm, comes with ubuntu
[11:52] <the-erm> My simple project is taking on a life of it's own.
[11:52] <the-erm> oddly enough zenity isn't installed, but I know how to do that ;)
[11:53] <ere4si> the-erm, I used zenity  for a gui to mencoder - scales for file size and bitrate etc
[11:54] <the-erm> It would be kinda nice if their was a nice config too that sorta just spit stuff out into a config file ...
[11:54] <the-erm> oh well maybe I'll make one for a project.
[11:54] <Jimche> any clue Jussi   ?
[11:56] <ibou> how to add a new search engine in konqueror. Looks  like it wants a differen syntax for each engine
[11:58] <hola1> smith_: are you still there?
[12:05] <socother> did anyone of you have trouble accessing their windows partitions?
[12:07] <swatto> hi all
[12:07] <Ayabara> I have an asus laptop. In KMix I see 3 controls for output volume, PCM, Front and PC Speaker. The volume applet controls PC speaker even if my headphones are connected. I need to fix it so that I have only PCM and a Master Volume that controls headphones when they are connected and internal speakers else. This works in Ubuntu, but not in Kubuntu for me.
[12:07] <jussi01> Jimche: Sorry, I neeed to run. I have other presing things to do
[12:12] <hola2> jussi01: sorry a question. I made a bridge interface and so i removed it with ifconfig br0 donw but ppeconf still continuing to find it
[12:13] <swatto> anyone know any good websites for beginners in kubuntu?
[12:14] <Dioxin> Swatto : try the kunbuntu website... should be enough links from there
[12:14] <hola2> swatto:  http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions
[12:14] <sivaji> http://kubuntuguide.org/Gutsy
[12:14] <swatto> cheers guys :)
[12:14] <Dioxin> if that fails try googling it
[12:14] <sivaji> how to install new templates for openoffice presentation
[12:14] <lijin> hi
[12:15] <lijin> hello
[12:15] <swatto> cant believe i managed to get my WUSBGSv2 adapter working with it :D
[12:15] <swatto> hi
[12:15] <lijin> ć€§ćź¶ć„œ
[12:17] <swatto> im getting a unable to save bookmarks error though
[12:17] <hola2> I made a bridge interface and so i removed it with ifconfig br0 donw but ppeconf still continuing to find it
[12:18] <sigma_1234> how do i make a custom install cd of kubuntu? - with different apps and settings to the default version
[12:20] <sivaji> sigma_1234 so you are asking about creation new distro is it ?
[12:23] <sigma_1234> sivaji: yeah you could say that. but i want to build it on kubuntu
[12:23] <swatto> anyone know where i put codecs for kaffeine
[12:23] <sigma_1234> like how ubuntu studio is built on ubuntu
[12:25] <ere4si> sigma_1234, the server cd is cli only - from there you can install what  you like
[12:25] <bazhang> swatto: you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[12:26] <sigma_1234> ere4si: how do i make the installer disc for it though
[12:26] <Ayabara> my laptop mediakey volume up seems to be bound to XF86AudioRaiseVolume, but it doesn't work properly. when I try to increase volume, an indicator pops up and says 11%, no matter how many times I press, and nothing happens in kmix
[12:27] <ere4si> sigma_1234, from the ubuntu homepage - you can download the iso then burn to disk
[12:28] <ere4si> !iso
[12:28] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type Â« sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> Â» - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:28] <ere4si> !burning
[12:28] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[12:29] <DFlame[Sleeps]> i think what he's getting at, is an option to preload a kubuntu disc with packages that would normally have to be downloaded post install
[12:29] <sigma_1234> ere4si: no i meant for the installer disc that i create
[12:31] <ere4si> sigma_1234, after you've installed what you want you want to make an installation cd - yes?
[12:32] <sigma_1234> yes DFlame thats what im trying to do. how do i do it?
[12:33] <sigma_1234> ere4si: yes thats what im trying to do
[12:33] <DFlame> I'm no expert, but you might find this a bit helpful, i cant guarantee it works on kubuntu though
[12:33] <DFlame> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys
[12:34] <DFlame> might also be of interest: http://lifehacker.com/software/featured-linux-download/roll-your-own-ubuntu-live-cd-with-reconstructor-276092.php
[12:35] <sigma_1234> yeah but are those livecds or also installer cds?
[12:35] <ere4si> sigma_1234: I've seen that  on google - mondo and mindi apps will let you back up your system "as is" and reinstall to any size partition
[12:35]  * Dr_willis agrees with ere4si 
[12:35] <Dr_willis> Those 2 programs can be a bit picky to use. but they have a lot of power.
[12:35] <ere4si> can even repartition
[12:35] <Dr_willis> Im not sure how well they work with the UUID ussage in fstab and the menu.lst however.
[12:36] <ere4si> good enough for sun and ibm...
[12:36] <sigma_1234> what do you guys think was used to make ubuntu studio?
[12:37]  * Dr_willis wonders what ubuntu studio is.
[12:37] <ForgeAus> its a media edition isn't it?
[12:38] <ForgeAus> ubuntu + some media tools
[12:38] <Dr_willis> so they just added some packages, and perhaps a differnet repo or 2
[12:38] <ForgeAus> something like that
[12:38] <ForgeAus> added/removed/customized/modded a few packages
[12:39] <ForgeAus> nothign you couldn't just add on with APT and the correct repos
[12:39] <Jimche> Hey i am trying to dload Beryl cause i saw it on youtube and it looks mad.... when i try to dload it, it comes up with about 1000 diff things to dload "beryl-project.org/releases.php" thats the site please help
[12:39] <Dr_willis> You dont use Beryl any more.
[12:39] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[12:39] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:39] <Dr_willis> use compiz :)
[12:39] <Jimche> compiz ? whats the diff ?
[12:40] <Dr_willis> Beryl got merged into compiz-fussion
[12:40] <Jimche> ah ok
[12:40] <Jimche> is it easy to dload and install ?
[12:40] <Dr_willis> from what i gatehr beryl is dead
[12:40] <Dr_willis> Jimche,  read that web site just posted.. its trivial
[12:40] <Jimche> ah ok
[12:40] <Dr_willis> IF you got your 3d working rght for your video card..
[12:40] <Dr_willis> You do have an Nvidia video card? or what?
[12:41] <Jimche> i THINK i gotta 3d card but im not 100% sure
[12:41] <ere4si> sigma_1234, try this - http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys
[12:41] <Jimche> its an old computer with go fast bits from my old computer in melbourne (not allowed to have it here cause i got busted with porn too much)
[12:41] <Dr_willis> Im not sure ther even exists a mondern video card that cant do 3d. :) but a lot depends on what specific video card you have - as to how well Compiz will run
[12:42] <Dr_willis> Define 'old' :) I have some 20+ yr old computers. Heh
[12:42] <ere4si> geforce nvidia or greater for compiz from what I've read
[12:42] <Jimche> ummm my old computer which is much newer than this one is about 3 years old but it was like a Pent 4 900 bla bla and this one i am using is a pent 2 i think 600 or something
[12:43] <Jimche> i put in my video card with out my gf knowing about it
[12:43] <Jimche> i think its a nvida or something 3d card but how do i find out ?
[12:43] <ere4si> lspci
[12:43] <ForgeAus> hey that reconstructor things looks kewl :)
[12:43] <ForgeAus> nice one
[12:43] <Jimche> whats ispci  ?
[12:44] <Ayabara> anyone know what dcop stuff I need to control brightness?
[12:44] <jayrome> I am on Kubuntu 7.10 AMD64, how can I install Opera here?
[12:45] <hola> i'm created a br0 interface and after i removed it with "ifconfig br0 donw" but pppoeconf still continue to recognize it, why?
[12:46] <ere4si> Jimche, it is a command - lspci is LSPCI
[12:46] <ere4si> finds the pci cards
[12:46] <ForgeAus> Jayrome I think theres a repository for it
[12:47] <ForgeAus> (that you can add in your sources.list)
[12:47] <ForgeAus> but you'd need to find which one from google or something
[12:47] <ForgeAus> !Opera
[12:47] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[12:47] <ForgeAus> unless it tells you there
[12:48] <hola> k
[12:48] <hola> i'm created a br0 interface and after i removed it with "ifconfig br0 donw" but pppoeconf still continue to recognize it, why?
[12:49] <Ayabara> how do I change scren brightness in kubuntu?
[12:50] <Jimche> Ispci
[12:50] <Jimche> lol i thought something was gunna happen
[12:50]  * Jimche waits
[12:51] <Dr_willis> its L as in Lamma  lspci
[12:51] <Jimche> what does it do ?
[12:51] <Dr_willis> lists pci devices
[12:51] <Dr_willis> run it and see
[12:51] <ere4si> Jimche: you need to open konsole and type lspci - it starts with a L not i
[12:51] <Jimche> ahhhh
[12:51] <Dr_willis> Or just open up  your case and look at your video card.
[12:52] <Dr_willis> heck the post messages often say what video card is found.
[12:53] <Jimche> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (re                                                              v a1)
[12:53] <Jimche> is that the 3d 1 ?
[12:53] <Dr_willis> as i said earlier - I doubt if you could find a NON-3d card these days
[12:53] <Dr_willis> That card should work fine for you.
[12:53] <Dr_willis> install the nvidia drivers for it. then follow the !compiz url the bot gave to install compiz
[12:54] <adi> hallo
[12:54] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis: anything via, as i've found out :\
[12:54] <adi> was
[12:55] <Jimche> ok cool, i have dloaded Compiz via adept... do i need to reboot my computer or something ?
[12:55] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[12:55] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:55] <Dr_willis> read the docs there.
[12:55] <Jimche> ok
[12:58] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/ind
[12:58] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/ind
[12:58] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/ind
[12:58] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/ind
[12:58] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[12:58] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[12:58] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[12:58] <Dr_willis> gee the script kiddies are up early
[12:58] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/ind
[13:01] <jayrome> ForgeAus: thanks, there is a section for 64-bit forced installations. Will try it and see if it works.
[13:01] <depp> hi there, does anybody know how to import either outlook or outlook express contacts to kontact?
[13:04] <Jimche> Dr willis
[13:04] <Jimche> i tried following the instructions for compiz but there comes up with an error... can i paste the error here ?
[13:04] <Wildcards> hello all
[13:05] <Dr_willis> !pastebin
[13:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[13:05] <vzduch> Dr_willis: it's 2 p.m. in Europe
[13:05] <vzduch> so 'early' doesn't fit in this case ;)
[13:06] <Dr_willis> its 8 am here. I just got off work. :) 3rd shift.
[13:07] <Jimche> Ok Dr willis i did it
[13:07]  * Wildcards would like a piece of help to make kdm to start at boot ....
[13:08] <Dr_willis> Wildcards,  did you disable it?   or is somthing else going on?
[13:08] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure  kdm
[13:09] <Dr_willis> that should enable it.
[13:10] <Wildcards> I had made the upgrade some times ago to the hardy version with KDE4. all was fine, but yesterday, I figured out that kdm is no more launched at boot :(
[13:10] <hola> i'm created a br0 interface and after i removed it with "ifconfig br0 donw" but pppoeconf still continue to recognize it, why?
[13:11] <Wildcards> at boot, I come to the console, and can start it by hand with a nice "sudo kdm-kde4" without any problem ...
[13:12] <Wildcards> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm-kde4" does not solve it
[13:12] <vzduch> !hardy | Wildcards
[13:12] <ubotu> Wildcards: hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:12] <Dr_willis> The topic tells the kde4 kubuntu channel also. :)
[13:14] <Wildcards> lol sorry :-) do not seen it :-D
[13:15] <swatto> anyone know how i install gnome?
[13:15] <Dr_willis> install ubuntu-desktop package
[13:16] <TimS> Where is the hosts file on kubuntu?
[13:16] <Dr_willis> in /etc/
[13:16] <Dr_willis> same as every disrto ive ever seen. :)
[13:16] <TimS> Whats it called?
[13:16] <Dr_willis> hosts i think :)
[13:17] <TimS> Ah
[13:17] <Dr_willis> /etc/hosts
[13:17] <Dr_willis> Well hidden eh? :P
[13:17] <Dr_willis> mines all full of fake hosts - to kill ad's in the browser. :P
[13:18] <TimS> Dr_willis: I was wondering what eDoney was and vistied the website, and thus my IP was logged.
[13:19] <TimS> So, I decided I should prevent myself from doing that in the future :P
[13:19] <Dr_willis> Heh - I doubt if its worth worrying about
[13:19] <TimS> Probably not.
[13:19] <Dr_willis>  so they logged you... wooop da dee. :)
[13:19] <TimS> I have never used eDonkey in my life, so I don't have much to worry about I guess.
[13:20] <TimS> I am cautious :P
[13:20] <TimS> I use AdBlock plus for adverts.
[13:20] <Dr_willis> i recall edonly getting shut down a way back and them doing that.. saw a post on slashdot.. then the site went down. it was getting too many hits. :)
[13:20] <TimS> hehe
[13:21] <Dr_willis> install tor, then keep hitting edonky web site. They will get to log random ips
[13:21] <paulo> hi everybody. I am trying to watch wmv movies using kaffeine but I can't see. I have already installed the gstreamer, but nothing happens when I open the kffeine, anyone can help ?
[13:21] <Dr_willis> Install the w32codecs yet?
[13:23] <paulo> where can I find? when I use apt-get install w32codecs I receive a message telling me it is not a instalation candidate
[13:23] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[13:23] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see Â« /msg ubotu medibuntu Â»), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[13:24] <paulo> gonna try
[13:24] <Dr_willis> "Do, or Do Not, there is no Try, Young Jedi"
[13:24] <Dr_willis> :P
[13:24] <paulo> :) OK, I will do.
[13:24] <paulo> even better, i am doing it now
[13:25] <hola> i'm created a br0 interface and after i removed it with "ifconfig br0 donw" but pppoeconf still continue to recognize it, why?
[13:25] <Mediapirate> whats the default location for drives on linux.......media/cdrom1?
[13:25] <Dr_willis> hola,  if you are going to just repeate. You may want to fix your spelling mistakes. :)
[13:26] <Dr_willis> Mediapirate,  most fileystems get mounted in /media
[13:26] <Mediapirate> thanks
[13:26] <hola> Dr_willis: sorry, what are you saying
[13:27] <Dr_willis> You misseplt 'donw' :)
[13:27] <Dr_willis> i dont use ppoe - so cant help ya. You may want to check the forums/wikis for pppoe guides
[13:28] <Dr_willis> !pppoe
[13:28] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[13:28] <hola> Dr_willis: ah ok....but i think that it is not the reason why i didn't receive an answer yet
[13:29] <jayrome> Adding "deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free" shows ERROR in the progress bar when getting data.
[13:29] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[13:29] <Dr_willis> !opera
[13:29] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[13:30] <Mediapirate> does anyone here use Exact Audio Copy emulated with wine?
[13:32] <squeezedtrash> i can make the progress bar happen in half itslength
[13:37] <bazhang> drm Mediapirate?
[13:40] <Mediapirate> ?
[13:40] <bazhang> that is the windows drm correct Mediapirate?
[13:40] <Mediapirate> eac is a windows program?
[13:40] <Mediapirate> yes
[13:41] <Mediapirate> drm?
[13:41] <bazhang> digital restrictions management
[13:41] <bazhang> no private messages please Mediapirate
[13:41] <Mediapirate> whys that?
[13:42] <bazhang> why is what Mediapirate?
[13:42] <Mediapirate> why not pm?
[13:42] <bazhang> better to share the knowledge here
[13:42] <Mediapirate> fair enough
[13:42] <Mediapirate> no its not drm
[13:42] <bazhang> you can also check #winehq
[13:42] <Mediapirate> its just a cd ripper
[13:43] <bazhang> not familiar with windows thus my question
[13:43] <Mediapirate> oh gotya
[13:43] <bazhang> cool
[13:43] <Mediapirate> yea i switched to linux
[13:43] <Mediapirate> but the drives don't seem to work when i emulate with wine
[13:43] <bazhang> k3b is likely much superior imo
[13:44] <bazhang> for cd ripping
[13:44]  * schiste nods
[13:44] <Mediapirate> no eac is actually the best
[13:44] <Mediapirate> :-)
[13:44] <bazhang> mmkay
[13:44] <bazhang> !info eac
[13:44] <schiste> [14:43:47] <Mediapirate> but the drives don't seem to work when i emulate with wine > Wine Is Not an Emulator :p
[13:44] <ubotu> Package eac does not exist in gutsy
[13:45] <Kohlrabi> EAC is windows only
[13:45] <bazhang> hmm seems not to be in the repos :}
[13:45] <Kohlrabi> cdparanoia should get comparable reuslts, I heard
[13:45] <bazhang> that would explain it; thanks Kohlrabi!
[13:45] <hola> i'm created a br0 interface and after i removed it with "ifconfig br0 down" but pppoeconf still continue to recognize it, why?
[13:47] <schiste> What does EAC do that you can't do otherwise?
[13:47] <ere4si> hola:tried restarting x or a reboot?
[13:47] <hola> ere4si: my question is for to not restart the system
[13:47] <Kohlrabi> schiste: creates exact error-free digital CD-rips
[13:47] <Mediapirate> rip to v0
[13:47] <bazhang> probably the shiny interface :}
[13:48] <Mediapirate> create cue files
[13:48] <Mediapirate> and is much more accurate
[13:49] <Mediapirate> and its not n00bish
[13:49] <Kohlrabi> schiste: from the website: "With other audio grabbers you usually need to listen to every grabbed wave because they only do jitter correction. Scratched CDs read on CD-ROM drives often produce distortions. But listening to every extracted audio track is a waste of time. Exact Audio Copy conquer these problems by making use of several technologies like multi-reading with verify and AccurateRip."
[13:49] <Kohlrabi> ups
[13:49] <Kohlrabi> too long, I presume
[13:49] <Mediapirate> as in you choose your own encoder etc and download it yourself
[13:49] <schiste> Nope, but still I think you can do this otherwise
[13:50] <Kohlrabi> yeah
[13:50] <schiste> I don't mean it's not a good software
[13:50] <ere4si> hola: try sudo /etc/init.d restart
[13:50] <Kohlrabi> with cdparanoia :)
[13:50] <Mediapirate> hmmmm
[13:50] <Mediapirate> i'll give it a go
[13:50] <schiste> I juste mean it's kindda weird to use a windows software while under Linux :)
[13:50] <Kohlrabi> schiste: true
[13:50] <hola> ere4si: ok , i tried to do sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[13:50] <Kohlrabi> that's why I rip CDs in Windows, still
[13:51] <schiste> Especially these kind of software, I'm not even sure wine would run them
[13:51] <schiste> Mediapirate you've tried with wine?
[13:51] <memoswe> hello
[13:51] <Mediapirate> yea
[13:51] <Mediapirate> hi memo
[13:51] <memoswe> i need some help
[13:51] <apol> could anybody tell me how can i add a kde translation to a kubuntu installation?
[13:51] <memoswe> i installed kubunto a month ago
[13:51] <memoswe> in a partition in my pc
[13:51] <memoswe> i have xp on the other
[13:52] <memoswe> now i wanted to use kubuntu but i font remember my pasword? and i can't login
[13:52] <Kohlrabi> schiste: actually, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3699&iTestingId=989
[13:52] <memoswe> is there any other way to login without reinstalling?
[13:53] <schiste> Kohlrabi ok my mistake ^^
[13:53] <llutz> memoswe: boot with option "init=/bin/sh" and reset your password in /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow
[13:53] <thekleine> memoswe: not 100% sure, but here's my advice:
[13:54] <thekleine> memoswe: when booting select the 'recovery' (or similar) kernel
[13:54] <memoswe> i should name that i am not so good in linux
[13:54] <memoswe> when rebboting from what?
[13:54] <memoswe> right now i am on mirc in xp
[13:54] <thekleine> memoswe: ok
[13:54] <memoswe> i restart the oc on kubuntu, and then what?
[13:55] <thekleine> memoswe: when rebooting, you're asked right in the beginning if you'd like to see the boot menu
[13:55] <thekleine> memoswe: say yes, and select not the first entry (Ubuntu something), but the second named something like recovery
[13:56] <memoswe> ok ill try that
[13:56] <thekleine> memoswe: this is similar to what llutz said
[13:56] <memoswe> then i supousse i can create a new account
[13:56] <memoswe> the old one is gone right?
[13:56] <thekleine> memoswe: nope
[13:56] <thekleine> memoswe: just issue 'passwd USERNAME' where you replace USERNAME
[13:57] <thekleine> memoswe: and you are asked to set a new password
[13:57] <thekleine> memoswe: good luck:-)
[13:57] <memoswe> take that again?
[13:57] <PowerJC> i'm installing kubuntu with alternate install cd, its at select and install software and its been at "please wait" 6% for about 10 minutes now, has it frozen?
[13:57] <memoswe> in recovery i should get a promt asking me my a new password
[13:57] <nosrednaekim> PowerJC: IS IT AN OLD COMPUTER OR IS IT FAIRLY RECENT?
[13:57] <nosrednaekim> uhh sorry, capps
[13:58] <thekleine> memoswe: not immediatly
[13:58] <PowerJC> duron 1600 256mb ram
[13:58] <nosrednaekim> PowerJC: i'd let it go a bit longer
[13:58] <thekleine> memoswe: you need to enter 'passwd USERNAME'
[13:58] <thekleine>  memoswe: where you should replace USERNAME with the username of your account
[13:58] <PowerJC> ok... i'm just worried about it, the cd drive isn't the best in the world
[13:59] <memoswe> and if i dont remeber the name of my account?
[13:59] <memoswe> do i get the possibility to create a ne w one?
[13:59] <thekleine> memoswe: that's not so simple
[13:59] <thekleine> memoswe: but you may use 'cat /etc/passwd'
[14:00] <thekleine> memoswe: this will just list all the accounts on your ubuntu
[14:00] <thekleine> memoswe: and you probably can identify the account name then;-)
[14:05] <memoswe> i shall try that now then
[14:05] <memoswe> be right back
[14:06] <apol> could anybody tell me how can i add a kde translation to a kubuntu installation?
[14:07] <baran__> .........
[14:07] <baran__> who can tell me i include "dir.h" under gcc
[14:07] <baran__> ?
[14:08] <paulo_> Guys I  need to use a gpg signature from Seveas
[14:08] <paulo_> anyone can help to use it?
[14:08] <paulo_> I have no idea how to add it
[14:11] <nosrednaekim> !translation
[14:11] <nosrednaekim> !apt-gpg
[14:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about translation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-gpg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:12] <nosrednaekim> paulo_: you have to use apt-gpg, there should be instructions on the seveas page...
[14:12] <nosrednaekim> !seveas
[14:12] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for Feisty and earlier for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - And he's getting married!
[14:12] <paulo_> married?
[14:12] <paulo_> oh god!
[14:13] <paulo_> =)
[14:13] <nosrednaekim> Seveas is a person ;)
[14:13] <paulo_> where does he from ?
[14:14] <nosrednaekim> not sure, in any case, knowing what he packages, I don't think he'd give out personal info like that ;)
[14:14] <paulo_> hauhauhauhauhaua
[14:18] <paulo_> thanks for your help man
[14:18] <paulo_> I got the package!
[14:19] <nosrednaekim> ;
[14:19] <nosrednaekim> :)
[14:21] <paulo_> one more question
[14:21] <nosrednaekim> there always is ;)
[14:21] <paulo_> just a second
[14:21] <smeril> what has happend to my sound it dosent work
[14:22] <paulo_> i will use all my english knowledge to create the question =)
[14:22] <smeril> speakers are okay and mp3 support are installed
[14:22] <paulo_> do you know where w32codec files are installed? I mean, the path....
[14:23] <nosrednaekim> paulo_: no.. i don't.. but "dpkg -L w32codecs" should tell you
[14:23] <nosrednaekim> and its not a program really, mostly just libraries
[14:24] <paulo_> wow! nice command!
[14:24] <paulo_> (sorry, i am newbie)
[14:25] <Phantom> I know this is a stupid question but do the w32codecs allow you to run win32 progs in gutsy ?
[14:25] <paulo_> allow to watch paris hilton movies in wmv format =)
[14:26] <paulo_> i am kidding, they are codecs for wmv,  and mp3 i think
[14:26] <paulo_> to be used with kaffeine
[14:26] <smeril> my sound dosent work
[14:26] <smeril> w32codecs is not installed
[14:27] <Phantom> I am looking for a way to get gutsy to recognize my yp-t9j mp3 player as a drive so I can transfer music to it.
[14:27] <Phantom> yp-t9j= samsung mp3 player
[14:27] <paulo_> smeril
[14:28] <paulo_> I used this place to install
[14:28] <paulo_> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/gutsy-seveas/
[14:28] <nosrednaekim> Phantom: no.. that would be wine
[14:28] <paulo_> add this line to you /etc/sources.list
[14:28] <paulo_> deb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl gutsy-seveas all
[14:28] <nosrednaekim> paulo_: no...mp3 codecs are in libxine-ffmpeg
[14:28] <Phantom> nosed: thanks
[14:29] <smeril> how can i install it after download
[14:29] <smeril> ?
[14:29] <paulo_> you don't need to download.
[14:29] <smeril> i have it on my catalog but how do i install it
[14:30] <paulo_> the only thing you need to download is a gpg license in the web  site to access in the repository
[14:30] <paulo_> what do you mean by catalogue?
[14:30] <smeril> user catalog
[14:30] <paulo_> did you try  sudo apt-get install w32codecs?
[14:31] <smeril> packet is missing or old it says when i try
[14:31] <paulo_> it is the same problem I had
[14:31] <paulo_> add the line
[14:31] <paulo_> deb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl gutsy-seveas all
[14:31] <paulo_> to your /etc/sources.list
[14:31] <paulo_> sorry
[14:32] <paulo_> to you /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:32] <smeril> what is the next step after download
[14:32] <smeril> i am new with linux
[14:32] <Mediapirate> burn the dvd/cd
[14:33] <Mediapirate> then insert
[14:33] <Mediapirate> burnt the iso to dvd
[14:33] <smeril> acces denied
[14:33] <nosrednaekim> smeril: what command are you trying to run?
[14:34] <smeril>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:34] <paulo_> try sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:34] <davies> kdesudo*
[14:34] <davies> !kdesudo | paulo_, smeril
[14:34] <ubotu> paulo_, smeril: In KDE, use Â« kdesudo <program> Â» (Gutsy) or Â« kdesu <program> Â» (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[14:35] <Mediapirate> why did i try and tell someone what to do :-S
[14:35] <Mediapirate> lmao
[14:35] <paulo_> thanx davies,
[14:35] <smeril> thanx
[14:35] <steveire> Is anyone here compiling kde4 from svn? I'm getting a lot of segmentation faults.
[14:35] <smeril> how can the source list help me with my sound?
[14:36] <nosrednaekim> steveire: while compiling?
[14:36] <paulo_> source list will help you get codecs
[14:36] <paulo_> to play different movies
[14:36] <paulo_> (in this case)
[14:37] <nosrednaekim> smeril: even a wav doesn't play?
[14:37] <smeril> i have it up now what do i do next?
[14:37] <smeril> i only have one album installed
[14:37] <nosrednaekim> paulo_: I think his problem is way deeper than that
[14:37] <smeril> mp3
[14:37] <steveire> nosrednaekim: Yes. compiling kdelibs. It's happened several times, and when I redo 'make install' it works for longer, then breaks again.
[14:37] <smeril> is there anyway to check?
[14:38] <paulo_> hardware?
[14:38] <smeril> yes
[14:38] <smeril> spekers are okay
[14:38] <nosrednaekim> smeril: yes, go into system settings->sound-> and try playing the test sound
[14:39] <paulo_> guys sorry but i need to go...problems with the baby
[14:39] <smeril> when i do that it is just testing and testing and it dosent stop it goes from 0-100 and start allover again with no result
[14:39] <paulo_> thanks everybody
[14:39] <paulo_> bye
[14:39] <smeril> bye
[14:40] <smeril> paulo
[14:42] <miguel__> hola
[14:42] <miguel__> haber si alguien me ayuda
[14:43] <miguel__> cabo de instalar kubuntu 7.10, cuando fui a adept a poner firefox, me dice
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> smeril: not the 'apply' buttong, but the test sound button
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> !es
[14:43] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en espaĂ±ol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allĂ­ obtendrĂĄ mĂĄs ayuda.
[14:43] <miguel__> otro proceso estĂĄ utilizando la base de datos del sistema de empaquetado (probablemente otra aplicacion Adept o apt-get o aptitude)
[14:44] <davies> miguel__: pregunta en #kubuntu-es
[14:44] <miguel__> Desea resolver este problema? Entre en modo de solo lectura y cancele para salir y resolver este asunto usted mismo
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> !apt-fix | miguel__ usa este command
[14:44] <ubotu> miguel__ usa este command: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: Â« sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a Â»
[14:45] <steveire> !ga
[14:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ga - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:46] <miguel__> thnks
[14:49] <smeril> i have used the test button
[14:49] <nosrednaekim> smeril: does it play  sound?
[14:50] <smeril> no
[14:50] <nosrednaekim> smeril: switch to the Advanced Linux Sound Archetecture from the sound device drop down menu
[14:50] <nosrednaekim> (I think thats what its called)
[14:52] <smeril> yes i have and now it is restarting
[14:52] <smeril> but nothing happends how long should the restart take?
[14:53] <Ayabara> when I increase volume with my media buttons, a gui-thingy pops up and shows the percentage of the total volume. anyone know where that "comes from". can I configure which of the volumes/levels on my pc it shows?
[14:53] <smeril> it goes from 1-100 procent and start over
[14:54] <steveire> What is the state of 64 bit kubuntu? Is there still flash related issues or anything else?
[14:55] <jussi01> Ayabara: right click kmix, select master channel
[14:55] <smeril> it is still trying to restart
[14:55] <nosrednaekim> smeril: odd...
[14:55] <smeril> yepp
[14:55] <nosrednaekim> steveire: nope... flash installs semalessly
[14:55] <steveire> Any other issues?
[14:56] <nosrednaekim> smeril: try running this command from the konsole "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart"
[14:56] <Ayabara> jussi01: that didn't do it. I have set the master to Front (my headphones)
[14:56] <steveire> I'm running kubuntu 32 bit on my 64 bit processor. Could that be part of my kde4 compiling problems?
[14:56] <nosrednaekim> steveire: nah
[14:57] <jussi01> Ayabara: try setting it to pcm
[14:57] <smeril> smeril@sm-laptop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[14:57] <smeril> [sudo] password for smeril:
[14:57] <smeril>  * Shutting down ALSA...                                                 [ OK ]
[14:57] <smeril>  * Setting up ALSA...                                                    [ OK ]
[14:57] <smeril> smeril@sm-laptop:~$
[14:57] <steveire> Can I switch from 32 to 64 bit without reinstalling?
[14:57] <smeril> no sound
[14:57] <nosrednaekim> smeril: try hitting apply again.
[14:58] <jussi01> steveire: no
[14:59] <smeril> what do i do after that?
[14:59] <nosrednaekim> smeril: test the cound again? did it apply successfully?
[14:59] <smeril> yes it did
[14:59] <nosrednaekim> smeril: sound work?
[14:59] <smeril> test doset work
[14:59] <smeril> no sound
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> smeril: open up kmix and trun on all channels and put their volume to max and try agin
[15:00] <smeril> thats the first thing i did
[15:01] <nosrednaekim> smeril: hmm do you know what sound chipset you have? lspci should tell you
[15:02] <smeril> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[15:02] <Ayabara> jussi01: doesn't work for pcm, front or pc speaker. it stopped working when I reconfigured the media key actions in Acessibility -> input actions
[15:02] <smeril> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[15:02] <smeril> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[15:02] <smeril> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[15:02] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin | smeril
[15:02] <smeril> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
[15:02] <ubotu> smeril: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:02] <smeril> 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 01)
[15:02] <smeril> 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
[15:02] <smeril> 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
[15:02] <smeril> 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
[15:02] <smeril> 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 01)
[15:02] <smeril> 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
[15:02] <smeril> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e1)
[15:02] <smeril> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
[15:02] <smeril> 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 01)
[15:02] <smeril> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 01)
[15:02] <smeril> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
[15:03] <smeril> 03:01.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
[15:03] <adz21c> pastebin ! smeril
[15:03] <smeril> 03:01.1 Generic system peripheral [0805]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 19)
[15:03] <adz21c> !pastebin | smeril
[15:03] <smeril> 03:01.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 01)
[15:03] <ubotu> smeril: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:03] <smeril> 03:01.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 0a)
[15:03] <smeril> 03:01.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 05)
[15:03] <smeril> 0b:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[15:03] <smeril> smeril@sm-laptop:~$ sudo -i
[15:03] <smeril> sorry
[15:03] <smeril> i know sry
[15:03] <jussi01> !intelhda | smeril
[15:03] <ubotu> smeril: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[15:04] <jussi01> smeril: Im pretty sure thats your issue
[15:10] <smeril> that dosent work the comands dosent work only the first 1
[15:11] <jussi01> smeril: PASTEBIN the errors
[15:12] <smeril> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53566/
[15:14] <jussi01> smeril: you didnt install the kernel headers, and you are not in the directory you downloaded the sources to.
[15:14] <ubuntu> k
[15:15] <ubuntu> .
[15:15] <ubuntu> hey im new at this
[15:15] <jussi01> !ask | ubuntu
[15:15] <ubotu> ubuntu: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:16] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu: welcome :)
[15:16] <ubuntu> My computer aint booting, its just running a file system check and restarting.....
[15:16] <ubuntu> thanx slimey, jussi
[15:17] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu: will it start in recovery mode?
[15:17] <SlimeyPete> there should be an option in the boot menu
[15:17] <ubuntu> same thing, filesystem check then restarting....
[15:17] <JoshOvki> you may have to press Esc for it to show the options
[15:17] <ubuntu> im using a live kubuntu cd now
[15:18] <ubuntu> so when do i press esc and then what?
[15:18] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu: Notsure what the problem may be but if you mount your hard disk from the livecd environment you can look at logs in /var/log
[15:19] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu: JoshOvki means at the boot menu I think but you're presumably seeing the options if you've managed to try recovery mode
[15:19] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: you could always ru a file system check from the liveCD and see what that does
[15:19] <SlimeyPete> good idea.
[15:19] <ubuntu> lemmi see
[15:19] <SlimeyPete> Maybe the filesystem is irrepairable somehow
[15:20] <ubuntu> ok this is intresting, now no other applicatioons are responding
[15:20] <onishidato> can someone tell me how to fix this errors?? "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000"
[15:21] <onishidato> !ubot
[15:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:21] <nosrednaekim> onishidato: yep.... change the mount permissions in system settings->advanced->disks and partitions
[15:22] <mrbrdo> i followed this guide to install FGLRX: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide (also the troubleshooting section), but i still get the MESA driver (even though i removed xorg-server-video*)
[15:22] <mrbrdo> this is my xorg log: http://pastebin.com/m40f1f457
[15:22] <mrbrdo> errors: (EE) fglrx(0): [pcie] Failed to gather memory of size 262144Kb for PCIe. Error (-1007) and (EE) fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been initialized.
[15:23] <mrbrdo> i am on hardy btw
[15:23] <onishidato> nosrednaekim: thanks so much
[15:23] <tekteen> !hardy
[15:23] <ubotu> hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:23] <jussi01> !ati | mrbrdo
[15:23] <ubotu> mrbrdo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:24] <tekteen> mrbrdo: support is in #ubuntu+1
[15:28] <onishidato> if i have put something into trash, and where can i find the folder trash in the storage media
[15:28] <nosrednaekim> onishidato: its not there....
[15:28] <nosrednaekim> onishidato: trash is in .trash
[15:29] <miguel__> hi
[15:29] <tekteen> hi
[15:29] <onishidato> nosrednaekim: you know, cause i have 2 Kubuntu in 2 seperate HDD
[15:30] <tekteen> !hi | miguel__
[15:30] <ubotu> miguel__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[15:31] <onishidato> and now i want to get some file i have put into trash which i store in another HDD
[15:31] <nosrednaekim> ok
[15:31] <onishidato> nosrednaekim: do you understand what i mean?? cause i don't know if my E is too bad
[15:31] <ubuntu> oookay!
[15:32] <ubuntu> so can anyone help me with the command for system filecheck?
[15:32] <onishidato> nosrednaekim: so can you help me?
[15:33] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: one moment
[15:33] <nosrednaekim> onishidato: so can you access the HD that the trash file is on?
[15:34] <onishidato> nosrednaekim: yes
[15:34] <nosrednaekim> the file will be in /media/<mountpoint>/home/<username>/.trash
[15:34] <jussi01> is there anyway to list .files/folders via konsole?
[15:34] <SlimeyPete> ls -a
[15:34] <nosrednaekim> jussi01: ls -a
[15:34] <tekteen> jussi01: ls -a .*
[15:35] <redlabour> Hi, wo finde ich den PublicKey fĂŒr Kubuntu? MĂ¶chte meinem Ubuntu die Repos gerade hinzufĂŒgen.
[15:35] <nosrednaekim> !de
[15:35] <redlabour> Finde den Key weder im Wiki noch sonstwo.
[15:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:35] <tekteen> jussi01: mine ONLY lists .files/folders
[15:36] <onishidato> nosrednaekim: i can't see the .trash
[15:37] <MasterShrek> onishidato, any file or folder with a . in front of the name is hidden
[15:37] <onishidato> nosrednaekim: i see
[15:38] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: where did you go?
[15:38] <onishidato> nosrednaekim: so how can i see it?
[15:38] <MasterShrek> ls -a
[15:38] <nosrednaekim> onishidato: see what?
[15:39] <MasterShrek> or view > show hidden files in nautilus
[15:39] <onishidato> nosrednaekim, MasterShrek: thanks all, you guys safe my life :)
[15:40] <MasterShrek> onishidato, i dont know if i 'saved your life' lol, but ur welcome :)
[15:40] <wers> how do I install flash for konqueror? :D
[15:40] <jussi01> !flash | wers
[15:40] <ubotu> wers: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[15:40] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[15:40] <nosrednaekim> wers: eh.. just use firefox for now..konqueror and flash is broken.
[15:44] <onishidato> MasterShrek: does trash have another name?? cause i still can't see it :(
[15:45] <nosrednaekim> onishidato: oh.. my bad... its in .local/share/Trash/files
[15:45] <nosrednaekim> in your home DIR
[15:45] <nosrednaekim> .trash is where Gnome stores its files
[15:45] <MasterShrek> onishidato, im not 100% sure, im not running gnome
[15:45] <onishidato> nosrednaekim: ok. thanks again :P
[15:47] <nidal> Hii all, how do I remove a module ? "modprobe -r uhci_hcd   " does not seem to have any effect
[15:47] <nidal> my uname -a
[15:47] <nidal> Linux pirana 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:48] <nosrednaekim> nidal: no effect?
[15:48] <ere4si> !blacklist
[15:48] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add Â« blacklist <modulename> Â» to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type Â« sudo update-initramfs -u Â»
[15:48] <MasterShrek> nidal, sudo rmmod <module>       (obviously omit the < >)
[15:49] <nidal> for eg. "modprobe -l | grep uhci" shows the following
[15:49] <nidal> now could you tell me how do I remove it ?
[15:50] <nosrednaekim> nidal: oh! sudo rmmod uhci
[15:51] <Knocternal> wats the command for filesystem check?
[15:51] <nidal> ERROR: Module uhci does not exist in /proc/modules
[15:52] <nosrednaekim> Knocternal: "sudo fsck </dev/device>"
[15:52] <MasterShrek> nidal, then thats not the name of the modules, lsmod | grep uhci      will give you a list
[15:52] <Knocternal> thanx nos do i need to include < >?
[15:53] <nidal> MasterShrek, pl see a few lines from my dmesg
[15:53] <nosrednaekim> Knocternal: no
[15:53] <nidal> [  195.452000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: USB bus 1 deregistered
[15:53] <nidal> [  195.452000] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:1d.0 disabled
[15:53] <nidal> I want to remove uhci_hcd module
[15:54] <nosrednaekim> nidal: sudo rmmod uhci_hcd
[15:54] <nidal> I had tried it and I got this
[15:54] <nidal> ERROR: Module uhci_hcd does not exist in /proc/modules
[15:54] <nosrednaekim> nidal: run "lsmod" and see the exact module name
[15:55] <nidal> I tried that also Sir
[15:55] <nidal> root@pirana:~# lsmod | grep uh
[15:55] <nidal> root@pirana:~#
[15:55] <nosrednaekim> nidal: what is the exact model name.
[15:55] <nosrednaekim> *module
[15:55] <nidal> I dont know  ; I cant find out
[15:56] <nidal> Basically I have some issue with accessing my digital camera and it seems to be a know bug; removing this module is a suggested resolution
[15:56] <nosrednaekim> nidal: lsmod will tell you... pastebinthe results of lsmod
[15:56] <nidal> thts why all this pain
[15:56] <Knocternal> well this is wat i got "
[15:56] <Knocternal> fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[15:56] <Knocternal> e2fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[15:56] <Knocternal> fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda2
[15:56] <Knocternal> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[15:56] <Knocternal> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[15:56] <Knocternal> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[15:56] <Knocternal> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[15:56] <Knocternal>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[15:57] <nidal> probably this one ?
[15:57] <nidal> usbcore               138632  4 usb_storage,libusual,hci_usb
[15:57] <nidal> i mean hci_usb
[15:57] <nosrednaekim> nidal: possibly
[15:57] <nidal> let me try with this
[15:57] <gaero> hi there
[15:58] <nosrednaekim> hey gaero
[15:58] <gaero> does somebody know what to do with kde4 and my processor at 100% every 8 or 9 s because of plasma ?
[15:58] <mrksbrd> what does everyone think about KDE 4????
[15:59] <gaero> i'm running a p4 3gh prescot and feisty
[15:59] <nosrednaekim> mrksbrd: I like it
[15:59] <tyson_> does kopete have a config file that i can edit to stop kopete from connecting to msn on startup (which is causing kopete to crash on startup everytime)
[16:00] <nosrednaekim> gaero: hum...are you sure its plasma
[16:00] <mrksbrd> i find it alot more confusing than 3.5 as far as the menu goes, but I do like the GUI much better
[16:00] <Strangelet> how do I change the homepage in Konqueror? I cannot seem to find it. XD
[16:00] <nosrednaekim> mrksbrd: you can put the oldmenu on
[16:00] <SSJ_GZ> gaero: File a detailed bug report, including what applets you have running.
[16:00] <gaero> nosrednaekim yes it is because gkrellm says it to me :)
[16:00] <mrksbrd> oh really??? where is that done thru?
[16:01] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: yes. .kde/share/apps/kopete
[16:02] <gaero> i drop kwin and put kwin4 but it doesn't change nothing on this trouble
[16:02] <nosrednaekim> mrksbrd: right click on desktop, add applets, drag the traditional menu applet to the panel
[16:02] <nosrednaekim> gaero: do you have the picture applet?
[16:02] <tyson_> nosrednaekim:  that appears to be a contact list
[16:02] <tyson_> ...as oppsed to a preferences file
[16:03] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: remove the whole DIR "rm -rf .kde/share/apps/kopete" and it will erase all the kopete config... but don't do that.
[16:03] <mrksbrd> ok seems easy enough i will try it, what I did was installed 4.0 as a login option alongside of 3.58 so far no glitches
[16:04] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: run a full system upgrade and the problem will be fixed
[16:05] <tyson_> how is that done?
[16:05] <gaero> nosrednaekim no i have not
[16:06] <nosrednaekim> gaero: what applets do you have running
[16:06] <gaero> kmix and networkmanager
[16:06] <gaero> thats all
[16:06] <nosrednaekim> gaero: no plasma applets?
[16:07] <gaero> hmm good question :)
[16:07] <gaero> how could i find that ?
[16:07] <nosrednaekim> do you see any icons or such running on your desktop? or... press ctrl+f12 and see if anything comes up..
[16:08] <Jatz> hey
[16:08] <gaero> nothing w
[16:08] <Jatz> question: d3lphin says /tmp is 1.0mb big
[16:08] <Jatz> and everything is like not enough space in /tmp
[16:08] <Jatz> how do I make it bigger?
[16:09] <nosrednaekim> Jatz: maybe / is too full?
[16:09] <nosrednaekim> gaero: odd
[16:10] <Jatz> when I'm in / it says 6.4gb free
[16:10] <Jatz>  /tmp says it's 1mb
[16:10] <nosrednaekim> Jatz: weird
[16:11] <Jatz> so how do I make it bigger/resize it?
[16:11] <nosrednaekim> Jatz: no idea. its not an actual partition
[16:11] <Jatz> should I nuke it and make a new /tmp ?
[16:12] <onishidato> !good night |everyone
[16:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about good night - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:12] <onishidato> good night everyone :P
[16:12] <tekteen> lol
[16:13] <jussi01> !bye | onishidato
[16:13] <ubotu> onishidato: Au revoir!
[16:14] <Jatz> so?
[16:19] <mrksbrd> nosrednaekim: when i right clicked the desktop, there wasn't any option for add applet or anything to do with applets
[16:21] <nosrednaekim> mrksbrd: erm... "add widgets"
[16:22] <mrksbrd> lol...that i saw
[16:22] <mrksbrd> brb
[16:22] <BluesKaj> Howdoes one set FF to open new windows in new tabs without the right click link dialog box ?
[16:23] <jussi01> BluesKaj: preferences -> tabs
[16:23] <BluesKaj> I like that tab feature in Konq
[16:24] <BluesKaj> jussi01, yeah? I have it set for new tabs in prefernces but they don't open as tab , they open as new windows hiding the previous one.
[16:25] <cwa2__> is it easier to resolve Xserver problems in one version over another? like edgy vs. feisty?
[16:25] <SlimeyPete> no, not really.
[16:25] <SlimeyPete> xorg configuration hasn't changed significantly.
[16:26] <BluesKaj> think I'm switching back to Konq despite the lack of working flashplugin
[16:27] <tyson_> anyone here use kopete with msn?
[16:28] <cwa2__> tyson: I am
[16:28] <cwa2__> how is it switching from an edubuntu desktop to kubuntu? painful?
[16:28] <tyson_> cwa2__: did you have any issues getting it to work?
[16:29] <cwa2__> no, just remembering my userid & password :)
[16:29] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: run all system updates
[16:30] <tyson_> nosrednaekim: i found the config file, and changed kopete to not start msn automatically. kopete now starts
[16:30] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: you just did a fresh install right?
[16:30] <tyson_> however, no matter what msn settings i have, as soon as i tell kopete to connect to msn, sigsev crash
[16:30] <tyson_> nope
[16:30] <tyson_> i really should completely uninstall kopete and reinstall?
[16:31] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: have you ever run a update?
[16:31] <tyson_> ...or do you mean run adept to make sure i got all updates?
[16:31] <tyson_> in adept?
[16:31] <nosrednaekim> rigt
[16:31] <tyson_> i have, but i didnt try that this monrning, lemme give that ago
[16:32] <rysiek|pl> guys, what's the status of iwlwifi-based intel wlan cards' drivers in (k)ubuntu?
[16:32] <rysiek|pl> I can see I have both ipw3945 AND iwl3945 kernel modules, but by default only the first is being used
[16:32] <tyson_> nosrednaekim:  theres no updates for kopete  for me
[16:32] <rysiek|pl> ...and it does have its problems
[16:32] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: what about kdelibs?
[16:33] <tyson_> ok, now you confused me :)
[16:33] <tyson_> whats that? is that something in adept/
[16:33] <tyson_> ?
[16:33] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: back when gutsy was released there was bug in kdelibs that woukld crash kopete when a person tried to connect to MSN
[16:33] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: its a package
[16:33] <tyson_> i dont have that installed
[16:34] <tyson_> from its name, i would guess that i did, being that i use kde
[16:34] <tyson_> i will install that and give it a go
[16:34] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: just make sure its not a kde4 version of the package
[16:35] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: actually, just update kubuntu-devel
[16:35] <tyson_> ok, coz i just installed the kdelibs, and same crash
[16:35] <tyson_> lemme try the other one
[16:36] <nosrednaekim> oops... "kubuntu-desktop"
[16:36] <tyson_> heh thats why i couldnt find it!
[16:36] <tyson_> thats intsalled
[16:37] <nosrednaekim> is it updateable?
[16:37] <tyson_> no, none of my installed packages are
[16:37] <nosrednaekim> hmm... thats very odd... try reinstalling kopete
[16:37] <mrksbrd> nosrednaekim: other than KDE4-core are there any updates, packages, enhancements or addons for 4.0??
[16:38] <tyson_> (in his best ace ventura voice) alllllllrighty then
[16:39] <nosrednaekim> mrksbrd: install the "kde4.0" package and it willinstall everything
[16:39] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: did it just recently start doing this?
[16:39] <tyson_> well yes
[16:39] <nosrednaekim> and when was the last time you updated your package lists
[16:39] <tyson_> as of yesterday
[16:39] <nosrednaekim> so it was working before?
[16:39] <tyson_> ...when i installed kubuntu for the first time! :)
[16:39] <tyson_> heh
[16:39] <tyson_> so it has both recently started doing this, and also it has always been doing this
[16:39] <tyson_> :)
[16:40] <tyson_> no it never worked
[16:40] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: ah.. ok then run these two commands on the command line "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[16:40] <tyson_> after i reinstall kopete?
[16:40] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: yeah...
[16:40] <mrksbrd> nosrednaekim: what i already did was sudo apt-get install kde4-core..........what would be the command for what u are talking about????
[16:40] <nosrednaekim> may as well.
[16:42] <tyson_> 0 changes made
[16:42]  * arriesp xao gente
[16:42] <nosrednaekim> mrksbrd: sudo apt-get install kde4
[16:42] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: for that command of mine?
[16:42] <tyson_> yes
[16:43] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: hrm.. you are running gutsy, right?
[16:43] <tyson_> yes, kubuntu
[16:43] <tyson_> i installed from a cd image, and then ran all updates in adept
[16:43] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: but the gutsy version... right?
[16:44] <tyson_> sorry, yes it is
[16:44] <tyson_> actually, how do i confirm this?
[16:44] <tyson_> just to be sure
[16:44] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: "lsb_release -a"
[16:45] <tyson_> yep gutsy
[16:45] <tyson_> the 'verion uprade' icon in adept toolbar is probably wanting me to upgrade to kde 4, yes?
[16:46] <nosrednaekim> ok, run "apt-cache policy kopete" and see what version it says is installed...
[16:48] <tyson_> 4.3.5.8-0ubuntu2
[16:48] <nosrednaekim> thats odd...
[16:49] <tyson_> nosrednaekim: do u use msn with kopete?
[16:49] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: no.. but this is a known problem
[16:50] <tyson_> the laptop has a webcam in it, could that be causing an issue?
[16:51] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: try "apt-cache policy kdelibs" and tell me THAT version
[16:51] <tyson_> same version
[16:52] <nosrednaekim> hmm I don't even have it installed! :)
[16:52] <tyson_> :)
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> hmmph! I foget the bug number...
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> stdin: ping...
[16:55] <tyson_> ...and it seems like #kopete are all asleep
[16:55] <julio3patas> i am trying to use openoffice under ubuntu gutsy but when i open oo and click on any of the menu i.e. file it briefly flashes the   pulldown menu but nothing else happens , i have to ctrl+alt+bkspc to be able to get out
[16:55] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: its not a kopete problem I don't think....
[16:55] <julio3patas> kubuntu
[16:55] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: for the time being, grab the package pidgin and use that..
[16:56] <tyson_> hehe
[16:56] <tyson_> i'd rather just not use msn
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> :)
[16:56] <tyson_> if the pidgin interface is anything like its windows version, ill pass!
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: I'll find a fix for it...
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: precisely the same :)
[16:56] <tyson_> hey, mate, i appreciate the time and help, really
[16:56] <jussi01> tyson_: there is also the option of kmess for a kde based one...
[16:56] <tyson_> kmess? that sounds.... promising!
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> or amsn
[16:56] <jussi01> lol. its a msn messenger clone - single protocol only
[16:57] <jussi01> !info kmess
[16:57] <ubotu> kmess (source: kmess): Instant messenger to use MSN on KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1083 kB, installed size 2652 kB
[16:57] <tyson_> yeah, my friends use different systems, so i gotta have a multiprotocol one. i would hate to install one im app for just one protocol.
[16:57] <tyson_> ...ill just see what future updates do...
[16:59] <BluesKaj> trying kopete
[17:01] <jussi01> tyson_: just out of curiosity, you have updates, backports and proposed repos on?
[17:02] <tyson_> not sure, ill have a look
[17:02] <mrbrdo> i am using the binary fglrx drivers, and when i type fglrxinfo it shows the ati driver (not mesa or anything), but fglrxinfo -v | grep direct shows nothing and compiz --replace says that i am not in direct mode so it doesn't work
[17:02] <X314> if I want to install a .tar.gz file. whats the command?
[17:03] <grim76> X314: You will more than likely have to extract the files, and then go from there.  What exactly are you trying to install?
[17:03] <nosrednaekim> mrbrdo: aren't you running gutsy?
[17:03] <X314> drivers for my scanner grim76
[17:03] <tyson_> jussi01: whats the backports repo?
[17:04] <jussi01> !backports | tyson_
[17:04] <ubotu> tyson_: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[17:04] <grim76> X314: ahhh ok.  You will probably have a readme in the file that will detail what you need to do to install it.  Probably a straight compile of the necessary items.
[17:05] <mrbrdo> nosrednaekim no hardy, why?
[17:05] <tyson_> i did enable a couple of those repos, then fetched updates, none available
[17:05] <jussi01> X314: which scanner?
[17:05] <nosrednaekim> mrbrdo: then go to #ubuntu+1
[17:05] <mrbrdo> i am there..
[17:05] <mrbrdo> not much activity tho
[17:06] <X314> jussi01: epson perfection 1670
[17:06] <BluesKaj> Konq does it for me , FF is broken on my setup
[17:06] <BluesKaj> BBL
[17:06] <nosrednaekim> mrbrdo: ah ok.. then run "glxinfo"
[17:08] <mrbrdo> nosrednaekim ok sec
[17:09] <jussi01> X314: firstly, a disclaimer: I have absolutely no idea if these work, will break anything or are even legal. However, you may want to look at: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Printing/libsane-epson-perfection-30293.shtml
[17:09] <imad> peace
[17:09] <X314> ah well. my brother who is here helping out with my server just broke something. I have to be off to help. thanks for the help.
[17:10] <X314> jussi01:  thanks!
[17:12] <mrbrdo> nosrednaekim it reports direct rendering: Yes
[17:12] <mrbrdo> but compiz won't work still
[17:12] <mrbrdo> the problem is 'texture_from_pixmap' is not present
[17:12] <nosrednaekim> mrbrdo: you installed the 8.01 drivers?
[17:12] <mrbrdo> yes
[17:14] <mrbrdo> also i am a little confused, in xorg.conf, do i need to add composite "0" or "aiglx" "off" (in appropriate section ofc)
[17:14] <mrbrdo> because it seems to work regardless of which option i specify
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> mrbrdo: make sure you don't have a composite section.... of you do, set composite to true
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> and make sure aiglx is on
[17:16] <grish> evening:) .. is it possible to use ndiswrapper for other drivers than wireless ?
[17:16] <mrbrdo> nosrednaekim okay let me try that
[17:16] <crimsun> grish: yes, but you shouldn't need to.
[17:16] <nosrednaekim> grish: only wired and bluetooth AFAIK
[17:17] <grish> crimsun: im trying to get a BT878khf chipped webcam up and running .. but cant really find anything
[17:17] <nosrednaekim> ndiswrapper doesn't work with webcams.
[17:17] <grish> actually the capturecard is using that chip .. notthe cam
[17:18] <grish> ok .. thanks .. one less thing to try :)
[17:18] <mrbrdo> nosrednaekim btw glxinfo says vendor string is SGI
[17:18] <mrbrdo> ah nvm for opengl it says it's ati, it's ok i guess then
[17:18] <nosrednaekim> mrbrdo: I think thats ok... one moment
[17:19] <mrbrdo> still compiz says that texture_from_pixmap is not present and won't work
[17:19] <mrbrdo> but still direct rendering: Yes
[17:19] <nosrednaekim> yeah... thats fine..
[17:19] <nosrednaekim> mrbrdo: oh.. you need to whitelist fglrx...
[17:19] <mrbrdo> i think it is
[17:20] <nosrednaekim> mrbrdo: join the #compiz-fusion channel and run the "!whitelist" bot command
[17:20] <mrbrdo> i have it in global whitelist tho
[17:20] <mrbrdo> in /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager.ubuntu
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> mm ok.
[17:22]  * nosrednaekim doesn't know anything about that
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> mrbrdo: what exactly happens? does compiz actually fail or are you just missing window borders
[17:22] <mrbrdo> i tried with skip checks
[17:22] <mrbrdo> it falls back to kwin
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> ok
[17:22] <mrbrdo> and it fails also
[17:23] <mrbrdo> because of the texture_from_pixmap
[17:23] <mrbrdo> it says Fatal: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
[17:23] <nosrednaekim> right.... that is controlled by the compiste extenstion..
[17:23] <nosrednaekim> you sure you have that enabled?
[17:24] <mrbrdo> i have set it to 1 now
[17:24] <nosrednaekim> erase the whole section.
[17:24] <nosrednaekim> and restart X
[17:24] <mrbrdo> roger
[17:25] <mrbrdo> still the same :S
[17:25] <prathap> hi
[17:25] <prathap> where do i add new repositories if I am running apt-cacher
[17:25] <nosrednaekim> mrbrdo: odd... does glxgears work?
[17:25] <mrbrdo> also there's a weird problem, i have to first do fglrxinfo once, and it just stalls, then i ctrl-c it and start it again, then it works fine
[17:25] <xtremcer> hello
[17:25] <mrbrdo> fgl_glxgears works fine yes
[17:26] <prathap> do I have to add it to the pathmap in apt-cacher?
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> mrbrdo: what about glxgears
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> hey xtremcer
[17:26] <mrbrdo> nosrednaekim yes works too
[17:26] <mrbrdo> 2k fps
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> ok
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> what card do you have?
[17:26] <xtremcer> my kopete can't login in MSN
[17:27] <mrbrdo> nosrednaekim X1350
[17:28] <nosrednaekim> xtremcer: did you just recently install?
[17:28] <mrbrdo> nosrednaekim also i am not using xgl, if i install xserver-xgl, then my x server won't work (i just get the blank screen with X cursor indefinately)
[17:28] <nosrednaekim> mrbrdo: with the 8.01 driver, you shouldn't need to
[17:28] <mrbrdo> ok good
[17:30] <mrbrdo> nosrednaekim i do have quite a few errors from fglrx in dmesg though, i will reboot and pastebin the log
[17:30] <nosrednaekim> ok
[17:30] <nosrednaekim> pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log too
[17:30] <mrbrdo> okay
[17:31] <mrbrdo> btw i am using the latest kernel from gutsy (not hardy), because i have problems with a network driver in the hardy latest kernel. if that means anything
[17:32] <xtremcer> no , when the Kubuntu installed,the kopete have exsit
[17:32] <xtremcer> 	
[17:32] <xtremcer> Already exist
[17:32] <nosrednaekim> that maybe the problem....
[17:32] <nosrednaekim> xtremcer: yes, but did you just install kubuntu?
[17:33] <xtremcer> yes sure
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> xtremcer: run this command "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> xtremcer: that will update your system and hopefully fix the problem
[17:35] <mrbrdo> http://pastebin.com/m676c1576 that's xorg log
[17:35] <xtremcer> now the kopete can down the user list,but the ico is grey
[17:35] <mrbrdo> http://pastebin.com/m4159c919 and that's dmesg
[17:36] <xtremcer>  I have updated the system ....(- -)
[17:36] <mrbrdo> nosrednaekim also what about this warning: #
[17:36] <mrbrdo> (WW) fglrx(0): Video Overlay not supported on AVIVO based graphics cards. For XVideo support use Option "TexturedVideo".
[17:37] <nosrednaekim> mrbrdo: don't worry about that... thats not affecting texture_from_pixmap (only xv)
[17:37] <oreth> Trying to start an X Server for World of Warcraft to run in.  Here's my code for the launcher.sh http://pastebin.com/d1cb3a483   the last line is the error I keep getting
[17:37] <mrbrdo> nosrednaekim ok
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> mrbrdo: not seeing any errors in there
[17:39] <mrbrdo> no mostly warnings, but some errors in dmesg log
[17:39] <mrbrdo> [fglrx:firegl_free_mutex] *ERROR* mutex id 0x00000006 not found in mutex list this one at least
[17:39] <fanlo> hola
[17:40] <fanlo> hola
[17:40] <Captain_Haddock> Anyone familiar with dmraid or know where I can get support for it? It doesn't detect the second drive in my RAID 1 array.
[17:40] <nosrednaekim> !dmraid
[17:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmraid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:40] <nosrednaekim> !raid
[17:40] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[17:41] <Captain_Haddock> nosrednaekim: the issue appears to be the same as this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/136804
[17:41] <tyson_> is there a way to have a 'shortcut' directory that will link to a directory on my ntfs partition which is mounted?
[17:42] <Captain_Haddock> tyson_: symlinks?
[17:42] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: yup.. check out symlinks
[17:43] <xtremcer> I'll go to install the ATI driver ,thx nosrednaekim,
[17:43] <tyson_> thanx
[17:43] <nosrednaekim> xtremcer: eh.. what?
[17:43] <nosrednaekim> xtremcer: that has nothing to do with your problem..
[17:43] <xtremcer> ^_^
[17:44] <nosrednaekim> xtremcer: unless you solved the msn problem already
[17:44] <xtremcer> Yes :)
[17:44] <nosrednaekim> ah.. ok:) install the ati driver with the restricted-manager tool
[17:44] <nosrednaekim> !ati | xtremcer
[17:44] <ubotu> xtremcer: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:45] <xtremcer> oh
[17:45] <xtremcer> ATI 9550
[17:45] <Captain_Haddock> nosrednaekim: do you use or have an opinion on LVMs?
[17:46] <mrbrdo> nosrednaekim any more ideas what i can try
[17:46] <nosrednaekim> Captain_Haddock: nope I don't...and never have... but they sound interesting ;)
[17:46] <Captain_Haddock> They apparently also support mirroring, hence the interest.
[17:47] <Lynoure> Captain_Haddock: you can have lvm on top of a raid, yes
[17:47] <xtremcer> thx uboyu :)
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> !ubotu
[17:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[17:47] <KR-data> I got an installation of kubuntu running, but I'm unsure on how the "guided" partition thing works, does it delete the entire disk or will it keep Vista and create a dual boot system?
[17:47] <Captain_Haddock> Lynoure: I can't get my RAID to work in LInux via dmraid. So I was thinking of implementing mirroring directly with LVM.
[17:47] <Lynoure> Captain_Haddock: the resizing of a filesystem is not yet quite hasslefree, but well, better than the alternative of fiddling with fixed partitions
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> guided will keep vista and do dual boot
[17:48] <Lynoure> Captain_Haddock: directly? How? :)
[17:48] <KR-data> nosrednaekim, thanks
[17:48] <nosrednaekim> KR-data: unless you selected "guided-- use entire disk"
[17:48] <Lynoure> Captain_Haddock: lvm is not software raid, software raid is a separate (thought lvm-friendly) beast
[17:48] <Captain_Haddock> Lynoure: I don't know - that's what wikipedia tells me :P
[17:48] <Captain_Haddock> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_(Linux)
[17:49] <KR-data> nosrednaekim, that's the only guided option I have :S
[17:49] <nosrednaekim> KR-data: you didn't select it already did you?
[17:49] <KR-data> nosrednaekim, nopes, but why don't I have the guided option where it won't delete everything?
[17:50]  * Captain_Haddock wonders why these guided installs never create a separate partition for /home etc.
[17:50] <nosrednaekim> KR-data: probably because vista made it a bit dangerous to resize its filesystem
[17:50] <kotlet_> can't connect to internet :(
[17:50] <nosrednaekim> Captain_Haddock: probably because that would sometimes require over 4 partitions.
[17:50] <KR-data> nosrednaekim, that's no good :S any ideas to make a solution?
[17:51] <nosrednaekim> KR-data: yes... go back into vista a resize the disk from within vista (there is a tool to do so)
[17:51] <nosrednaekim> KR-data: then come back into kubuntu and do manual partitioning
[17:51] <mrbrdo> nosrednaekim so any idea?
[17:52] <KR-data> nosrednaekim, hmm if that's the best option, but then half of my point has fallen :(
[17:52] <Captain_Haddock> KR-data: you could also speak to vistakiller for some friendly advice :P
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> KR-data: point?
[17:52] <vistakiller> what?
[17:52] <vistakiller> any vista to kill :P
[17:52] <KR-data> Captain_Haddock, vistakiller sounds fun *gg* unfortunately my sister want's to keep the shit
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> mrbrdo: no.... sorry. maybe try it with the hardy kernel?
[17:53] <KR-data> nosrednaekim, that anyone can make a dual boot system without problem, probably fixed in 8.04, but that won't help now :(
[17:53] <mrbrdo> nosrednaekim i'll try
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> KR\
[17:53] <Captain_Haddock> KR-data: :D so vista is just one big partition that spans the entire drive?
[17:53] <kotlet_> i have adsl modem and can't connect
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> KR-data: yeah... sorry.... but Vista screws everything up
[17:54] <vistakiller> kotlet usb modem?
[17:54] <kotlet_> no. LAN
[17:54] <tyson_> is there a kde version of nautilus?
[17:54] <KR-data> Captain_Haddock, no 3 partitions :p
[17:55] <vistakiller> dolphin,konqueror
[17:55] <vistakiller> kotlet ethernet?
[17:55] <Captain_Haddock> KR-data: can't you just move data, nuke one and use that space?
[17:55] <Dioxin> Caption_Haddock : why dont you install Linux onto a usb drive instead :D
[17:55] <kotlet_> ethernet
[17:55] <Captain_Haddock> Captain_Haddock: you mean KR-data?
[17:55] <KR-data> nosrednaekim, well I look forward to the 8.04 release party and hope for the problem to be solved ;) I've always partitioned manually that's better :p
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> KR-data: :)
[17:56] <Captain_Haddock> Is hardy heron due out soon?
[17:56] <Dioxin> Captain_Haddock : I did the exact same thing last night and it boots fine
[17:56] <KR-data> Captain_Haddock, I've considered it :p
[17:56] <kotlet_> plog writes "CHAP auth failed"
[17:56] <Captain_Haddock> kotlet_: check your un/pw ?
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> !hardy
[17:56] <ubotu> hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[17:56] <kotlet_> checking 10000 time
[17:56] <Captain_Haddock> ah, 3 more months :|
[17:57] <BluesKaj> Just discovered a not so well known app will run very well in wine , but is an absolute ringer for photoshop without the probs or cost adobe undergoes
[17:57] <Captain_Haddock> kotlet_: :) Shouldn't you be able to fix this to be "always connected" or something in your modem/router?
[17:57] <Captain_Haddock> That's how it is on most systems I've used.
[17:58] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: It will probably remain "not so well known" unless you tell us what it is :P
[17:58] <BluesKaj> there is a linux version of the gimpshop but it doesn't run well in kde
[17:58] <kotlet_> I don't want to solve problem like that
[17:59] <BluesKaj> sorry Captain_Haddock , should have mentioned that it's GimpShop
[17:59] <Lynoure> Captain_Haddock: If you do end up using lvm mirroring instead of sw raid, do write a howto. There is no real good one yet and at least from bits and pieces it seems like much more hassle than lvm on sw raid
[18:01] <Captain_Haddock> Lynoure: I'm not terribly capable with this kinda stuff. But if it works, I will. Thanks :)
[18:01] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: Thanks :)
[18:01] <hola> i create a bridge interface and after i removed it with "ifconfig br0 down" but pppoeconf still continue to recognize it, why?
[18:01] <kotlet_> sorry... the password was wrong. Anyway thanks 4 help
[18:02] <Captain_Haddock> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMPshop for those interested.
[18:02] <Captain_Haddock> kotlet_: heh, 10001 FTW :)
[18:02] <kotlet_> Captain_Haddock, :)
[18:02] <nosrednaekim> kotlet_: hahaha
[18:03] <BluesKaj> Captain_Haddock, I ran the Linux version of gimpshop , but it's older and has fewer options
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: hate when they do that
[18:05] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, 'm not a real photonut but it's nice to have a graphics/photo editor that doesn't cost $300
[18:05] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: I wonder if Adobe will sue them. They sued Macromedia pre-merger when the latter introduced tabbed panels :)
[18:06] <Captain_Haddock> (violated patents apparently)
[18:10] <tyson_> i am receiving an error when closing dolphin that it is unable to save bookmarks, permission denied. I went to the bookmarks files and i see that root owns them. I am guessing this is the issue. how do i fix this?
[18:10] <tlayton> hey all. anybody know how i can get kde to auto put the desktop icons on the right like a mac?
[18:11] <BluesKaj> another reason to avoid dolphin
[18:11] <tyson_> BluesKaj: which app do you suggest?
[18:11] <BluesKaj> konqueror
[18:11] <tyson_> coz, honestly, its interface blows
[18:11] <hola> tyson_: change the permission, user and grop
[18:12] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: remove the file
[18:12] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: its actually a problem with kdesudo
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> !dolphin
[18:13] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[18:13] <tyson_> bingo
[18:16] <mrbrdo> guys
[18:16] <mrbrdo> if i use gutsy and want kde4, which repo should i use?
[18:16] <tlayton> so does dolphin still use the .dolphinview and/or .d3lphinview files anymore?  can i remove them?
[18:16] <mrbrdo> i tried the CD version that has kde4 integrated, but it was very buggy until i upgraded to hardy. i don't want hardy though, so i want to use kde4 on gutsy but if possible, more up-to-date packages
[18:16] <prathap> hi
[18:17] <tyson_> ....and there my dumb ass was thinking that konquerer was just a browser!
[18:17] <prathap> what is the shortcut key to switch desktops in compiz?
[18:17] <mrbrdo> ctrl-alt left
[18:17] <tyson_> if i want to remove an app, lets say dolphin, is there a way to find out of removing it will cause problems with other programsS?
[18:19] <prathap> hmm
[18:19] <prathap> nothing happens with ctl-alt left mouse click :(
[18:19] <BluesKaj> kde4 | mrbrdo
[18:19] <mrbrdo> LEFT keyboard key
[18:19] <hola> i create a bridge interface and after i removed it with "ifconfig br0 down" but pppoeconf still continue to recognize it, why?
[18:19] <BluesKaj> !kde4 | mrbrdo
[18:19] <ubotu> mrbrdo: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[18:21] <mrbrdo> BluesKaj so http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu is the best repo to use?
[18:21] <mrbrdo> most up to date and so on
[18:21] <BluesKaj> mrbrdo, aamof, there is a repos that must be commented or disabled in order to install kde4 alongside kde3.5x
[18:22] <mrbrdo> commented or disabled?
[18:22] <mrbrdo> which has to be disabled?
[18:22] <mrbrdo> that site mentions nothing about disabling any repo
[18:22] <BluesKaj> mrbrdo, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php
[18:22] <mrbrdo> it doesn't mention disabling any repo!
[18:23] <BluesKaj> sorry mrbrdo , I've forgotten ,,it's one of the backports
[18:23] <bmk789> is there a way to find out what is causing heavy hard drive actuvuty?
[18:24] <mrbrdo> BluesKaj are you sure you need to disable things so it works?
[18:24] <mrbrdo> why doesn't it mention that on that page then
[18:25] <BluesKaj> mrbrdo, why not join #kubuntu-kde4 ...the ppl there can help, I'm sure.
[18:26] <michi> monmon
[18:27] <tyson_> i have some folders in vista that have names starting with a . but they are not showing up in konquerer. what gives?
[18:27] <hola> tyson_: you have to select show hidden files
[18:27] <NickPresta> tyson_, files or folders starting with a . are hidden by default
[18:29] <tyson_> thanks
[18:29] <Artimus> I ended up having to xkill Konqueror this morning because it froze up on a site..  Now, konqueror won't launch again.  I killed all konqueror processes and any extra kio_file processes.  When I run konqueror from a terminal, it sits there, the window never launches, no error messages.  Any ideas short of rebooting?
[18:29] <swatto> hi all
[18:30] <BluesKaj> Artimus, afraid to reboot ?
[18:31] <Artimus> BluesKaj: Running something important, I'd rather not go a few hours without konqueror
[18:31] <pisec> ĐŽŃĐ°ŃŃŃĐ”
[18:31] <BluesKaj> !ru | pisec
[18:31] <ubotu> pisec: ĐĐŸĐ¶Đ°Đ»ŃĐčŃŃĐ° ĐżĐŸŃĐ”ŃĐžŃĐ” #ubuntu-ru ĐŽĐ»Ń ĐżĐŸĐ»ŃŃĐ”ĐœĐžŃ ĐżĐŸĐŒĐŸŃĐž ĐœĐ° ŃŃŃŃĐșĐŸĐŒ ŃĐ·ŃĐșĐ”  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[18:33] <Artimus> There we go, looks like I missed a kio
[18:36] <jma> when I updated to hardy, somehow my kde3 session won;t start now if I set my Lang=en_CA.UTF-8?
[18:36] <NickPresta> !hardy | jma
[18:36] <ubotu> jma: hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:37] <Captain_Haddock> !rpm
[18:37] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[18:37] <Captain_Haddock> !source
[18:37] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[18:38] <jma> ubotu: show I know. I am wondering if there is a easy fix.
[18:38] <Odd-rationale> Does anyone know whether the KDE 4.0 release event speeches are available for download in higher resoutions yet?
[18:39] <sep1318> does anyone know of a workaround to allow for suspend/hibernate with fglrx on gutsy?
[18:39] <sep1318> (ati proprietary driver)
[18:47] <Maxim000> ŃĐ”ŃŃ
[18:56] <Exotic-s4> hello all
[18:57] <fannagoganna> yo
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[19:01] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm looking to clone /home to another drive...  can i even do that if i'm not on a live cd?
[19:01] <Odd-rationale> Daisuke_Ido: Is /home on it's own partition?
[19:01] <Daisuke_Ido> because it seems that no matter what, something in home is being used and preventing it from being unmounted...
[19:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Odd-rationale: of course
[19:01] <Odd-rationale> Daisuke_Ido: Then yes, you need a live cd
[19:02] <fannagoganna> you can check which process is holding the device on which /home resides by lsof /device/name
[19:02] <fannagoganna> you can check your partition setup with df -h
[19:02] <fannagoganna> from the command line
[19:02] <Daisuke_Ido> quite a lot
[19:02] <Daisuke_Ido> and i'm familiar with my partition setup :)
[19:03] <Daisuke_Ido> i wasn't really looking forward to reinstalling, but this drive is dying, and there's not much i can do to save it :\
[19:06] <Daisuke_Ido> the good news is that i always have a livecd of the latest release handy :)
[19:06] <Daisuke_Ido> wish me luck.
[19:08] <mrbrdo> hello guys
[19:08] <mrbrdo> i followed this guide to install ati drivers (for gutsy): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusionATI?highlight=(compiz)|(fusion)
[19:08] <mrbrdo> and i don't have direct rendering
[19:08] <mrbrdo> what should i do?
[19:08] <mrbrdo> i used restricted-manager and the driver is enabled
[19:10] <bXi> anyone here having experience with (k)ubuntu on a dell xps m1730?
[19:16] <TimS> What is a good app for making flow charts?
[19:19] <adz21c> TimS: tried open office drawing?
[19:19] <TimS> Not a fan :/
[19:20] <adz21c> TimS: koffice has one too i think called karbon maybe i can't remember whats its called
[19:20] <TimS> Kivio
[19:20] <adz21c> yea
[19:20] <TimS> Don't like that much either!
[19:20] <adz21c> ok lol
[19:21] <adz21c> dunno what to suggest, i never found a program thats been brilliant at it
[19:21] <mcassino> hola gente linda ubuntera! como dicen que les baila?
[19:22] <adz21c> !es
[19:22] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en espaĂ±ol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allĂ­ obtendrĂĄ mĂĄs ayuda.
[19:22] <TimS> Okay
[19:23] <mcassino> ok ... muchas gracias pedazo de mierda, hijo de mil puta
[19:24] <val0> TimS: are you looking for some king of Visio alternative?
[19:24] <TimS> Visio?
[19:25] <val0> !es | mcassino
[19:25] <ubotu> mcassino: Si busca ayuda en espaĂ±ol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allĂ­ obtendrĂĄ mĂĄs ayuda.
[19:25] <TimS> I just want to make dead easy flow charts, all the same box style, with links between :p
[19:25] <mixed> I could be able to play mp3z on amarok, why is it all of a sudden my distro doesn't have a suitable plugin to play mp3z??
[19:25] <val0> TimS: it's a really neat M$ product
[19:25] <TimS> Ah
[19:26] <val0> TimS: you can draw practically anything with it (flow charts, diagrams, circuits, etc) check it out
[19:26] <mixed> !mp3
[19:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:26] <TimS> Sounds good
[19:26] <val0> TimS: you might be able to run it under wine
[19:26] <TimS> Ok, Any linux alternatives?
[19:26] <val0> TimS: and if you only need it short term they offer a 30 day trial I believe
[19:26] <BluesKaj> mixed, check adept for libxine1-ffmpeg
[19:26] <tyson_> anyone installed beryl?
[19:27] <val0> !beryl | tyson_
[19:27] <ubotu> tyson_: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[19:27] <val0> !compiz | tyson_
[19:27] <ubotu> tyson_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:27] <mixed> BluesKaj, what should I check? how should I do it? thanks for the reply, this is really frustrating, how could amarok all of a sudden not be able to play mp3z??? LoL  this is just straight out bizarre
[19:29] <BluesKaj> mixed, open adept and type libxine1-ffmpeg in the searcbar
[19:29] <BluesKaj> err searchbar
[19:30] <mixed> BluesKaj, I drag and pasted to amarok, that one didn't work, I double-clicked on the song, this time it played
[19:30] <mixed> it's really weird, anywayzz, I'm hearing music now, BluesKaj, thanks for your help!!!!!!!!!!
[19:30] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, i have a massive gripe with the installer process :\
[19:30] <BluesKaj> mixed,did you check adept like I suggested ?
[19:31] <mixed> BluesKaj, no i didnt not, letme try that, I did try reinstalling restricted formats and got a message saying they were aleady installed
[19:32] <Daisuke_Ido> la-di-da, going through, getting my partitions set up JUST how i like them, and i realize, after going to the next step, that i need to change one minor little detail...  so i hit back.  does it remember what i JUST did?  NO!  it makes me do it aaaaaall over again >:|
[19:32] <BluesKaj> ok mixed , just be sure
[19:32] <BluesKaj> to be sure
[19:32] <mixed> "adept"???
[19:33] <SlimeyPete> !adept
[19:33] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[19:33] <BluesKaj> adept pkg manager
[19:33] <SlimeyPete> mixed: it's the main way of installing software, you should familiarise yourself with it
[19:33] <mixed> I can get to adept_installer
[19:34] <BluesKaj> I'll bet he's running ubuntu not kubuntu
[19:34] <Daisuke_Ido> or familiarise yourself with synaptic if you want to get out without a headache :|
[19:34] <SlimeyPete> mixed: it's in the K menu
[19:34] <SlimeyPete> in Kubuntu
[19:34] <mixed> not, nothing but KDE for me, I don't like gnome
[19:34] <SlimeyPete> mixed: it's under "system"
[19:35] <mixed> this KDE menu is really cluttered up, SuSE 10.3 is a whole lot better, however SuSE doesn't have apt-get
[19:35] <BluesKaj> SlimeyPete, agreed , I much prefer synaptic to adept even tho it's a gnome app
[19:35] <Daisuke_Ido> mixed: install kickoff, best of both worlds.
[19:35] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: that was me :P
[19:35] <NickPresta> mixed, you can install kicker-kickoff, if you prefer a SuSE-like menu :)
[19:35] <mixed> what is kickoff?
[19:36] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, oh sorry ...agreed !
[19:36] <Daisuke_Ido> kickoff is the kmenu suse uses
[19:36] <SlimeyPete> mixed: I suggest going to kde-apps.org and downloading Tasty Menu, or installing kickoff as NickPresta says.
[19:36] <Daisuke_Ido> the panel
[19:36] <SlimeyPete> (I prefer Tasty Menu myself)
[19:37] <Daisuke_Ido> the irritating vistaesque start "panel"...  sorry i'm being so negative today, the installer has got me a bit miffed
[19:37] <BluesKaj> !Tasty Menu
[19:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tasty menu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:37] <mixed> BlueSkaj, it's installed!  I think it has to do with my external USB drive
[19:37] <SlimeyPete> BluesKaj: it's not in apt or anything
[19:37] <BluesKaj> ok
[19:37] <SlimeyPete> though it probably should be - 'tis neat.
[19:37] <BluesKaj> will check it out
[19:38] <SlimeyPete> best with a widescreen monitor and/or high res though, as it is quite wide
[19:38] <Daisuke_Ido> doing the necessary installating now :\
[19:39] <mixed> NickPresta, I can't install kicker using "Adepter Installer" :-(
[19:39] <Daisuke_Ido> no, you use adept *manager*
[19:39] <Daisuke_Ido> this is why i advocate synaptic
[19:40] <Daisuke_Ido> just creating a new / and /home on new partitions, mounting the old ones as regular storage media, then copying over settings and such
[19:40] <SlimeyPete> mixed: K menu -> System -> Adept Manager
[19:40] <mixed> SlimeyPete,I got that far, now how do I install kicker-kickoff?
[19:41] <SlimeyPete> search for "kicker"
[19:41] <mixed> kicker is installed?
[19:41] <Daisuke_Ido> is that the only match it found for kicker?
[19:41] <Daisuke_Ido> !info kicker-kickoff
[19:41] <ubotu> Package kicker-kickoff does not exist in gutsy
[19:41] <cheesypieces> hi guys, does anyone know how to unblock ports in kubuntu?
[19:42] <Daisuke_Ido> that would explain a lot
[19:42] <mixed> Ddaisuke_Ido, it found a few matches for kicker but it's the only match that's installed
[19:42] <Daisuke_Ido> !info kickoff
[19:42] <Daisuke_Ido> cheesypieces: nothing should be blocked by default.
[19:42] <mixed> I only have "kicker" found in AdepterManager
[19:42] <ingrid> i have a canon lide 25 scanner and kooka sees it. when i scan however, kooka shows that it's scanning but the scanner does nothing and it shows a black picture. only libsane seems to be installed. do i need anything else?
[19:42] <ubotu> Package kickoff does not exist in gutsy
[19:42] <Daisuke_Ido> !find kickoff > Daisuke_Ido
[19:42] <mixed> ubotu then how would I go about installing kickoff?
[19:43] <Daisuke_Ido> mixed: working on that
[19:43] <jpatrick> !bot > mixed
[19:43] <kalorin`> what's the deal with this
[19:43] <whatverr> yhey
[19:43] <NickPresta> I have a kicker-kickoff deb that works for Gutsy, if you want it. I don't recall where I got it from though.
[19:43] <cheesypieces> ok thanks daisuke
[19:43] <mixed> ubotu is a bot? wow
[19:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot? wow - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:43] <Daisuke_Ido> you using gutsy?
[19:43] <kalorin`> I click on a file from my desktop and hit delete, it opens the progress window and just hangs there
[19:43] <kalorin`> anyone seen that before?
[19:43] <Daisuke_Ido> it says kickoff is part of kdebase-workspace
[19:43] <kalorin`> command prompt, I can delete thins
[19:43] <whatverr> thas weird
[19:43] <kalorin`> things
[19:44] <Daisuke_Ido> so maybe right-click the kmenu, see if it gives you the option to switch?
[19:44] <ingrid> kalorin`: i have. don't know what's doing it though. use rm to remove it
[19:44] <mixed> JPatrick, thanks for the bot!
[19:44] <jpatrick> mixed: it's not mine :)
[19:44] <kalorin`> ingrid: yeah, that's what I've been doing but that just seems like such low level functionality that it's hard to imagine it not working
[19:44] <Daisuke_Ido> jpatrick: are you in charge of the installer?  *grumbles*
[19:44] <Daisuke_Ido> :)
[19:44] <wesley_> why do you need to pay for cedega if it use wine code? and white wich alternative can you play windows games ? it wine seems no direct x support
[19:45] <jpatrick> Daisuke_Ido: ?
[19:45] <Daisuke_Ido> jpatrick: just teasing...  i have some issues with the installer's partioner
[19:45] <jpatrick> Daisuke_Ido: I have nothing to do with Ubitity :)
[19:45] <Daisuke_Ido> (ubuntu installer, not the kubuntu installer, i guess i should have made that clear)
[19:46] <g2g591> wesley_: cedega is a fork of wine, cedega has far better directx
[19:46] <Daisuke_Ido> of course, it's probably the same anymore, isn't it...  iunno
[19:46] <mixed> slimey_pete,  so it's not possible to install kicker?
[19:46] <Daisuke_Ido> mixed: right-click your kmenu and see if the suse option is there
[19:46] <mixed> Daisuke_Ido, no, I do not get an option
[19:47] <Daisuke_Ido> hrmm
[19:47] <ingrid> !scanning > me
[19:47] <Daisuke_Ido> then why is it part of the kdebase-workspace package...
[19:47] <wesley_> csn you not just start a exe with cedega
[19:47] <Daisuke_Ido> wesley_: you can, that doesn't mean it's going to work.
[19:48] <g2g591> mixed: you can install kde3 kicker seperatly from kdepase
[19:48] <Daisuke_Ido> and cedega's not really all that much better than wine anymore, wine has made a lot of improvements to its direct3d
[19:48] <lod_> what's the command for finding out media status of iface (100baseTX, 10baseT ..)
[19:48] <Daisuke_Ido> g2g591: not installing kicker, installing kickOFF
[19:48] <Daisuke_Ido> big difference.
[19:48] <wesley_> i got call of duty installed on windows so i wanted to start it from there but i get a error
[19:48] <Daisuke_Ido> you can't do that.
[19:48] <mixed> g2g591, I'm installing kickoff, my apologies
[19:48] <g2g591> Daisuke_Ido: yea, i guess mixed made a typo
[19:48] <Daisuke_Ido> no worries :D
[19:49] <wesley_> Couldn't load default.cfg.  Make sure Call of Duty is run from the correct folder.
[19:49] <Daisuke_Ido> getting ready to reboot into my poor poor wiped system
[19:49] <Daisuke_Ido> ...until i get settings where they should be, that is :D
[19:50] <Daisuke_Ido> wesley_: yeah, you can't do that
[19:50] <Daisuke_Ido> you'll need to install it on the linux side if you want to run it
[19:50] <wesley_> but my home is fukk
[19:50] <wesley_> full
[19:50] <Daisuke_Ido> that could be a problem then
[19:50] <mragrid> can some help me configuring 3d acceleration of my graphic card
[19:51] <Daisuke_Ido> mragrid: what card?
[19:51] <mragrid> ATI 320m
[19:51] <Daisuke_Ido> eek.  i have no ati experience :(
[19:51] <wesley_> does some one know if call of duty does run in linux on a intel chip
[19:51] <Daisuke_Ido> and on that note, i reboot
[19:51] <goop2> my Xmodmdp died =[
[19:51] <goop2> Xmodmap*
[19:52] <goop2> it's still there, but it won't do anything
[19:52] <wesley_> going wipe vista away *Evil*
[19:53] <Ricket> How do I check which version of kubuntu I have?
[19:53] <Ricket> I thought I had gotten 7.10 but it seems to be upgrading to 7.10 so I must have something else...
[19:53] <mixed> How should I install tasty menu?
[19:53] <jpatrick> Ricket: lsb_release -a
[19:54] <Ricket> Lol, hmm... how do I open a command window? :-D
[19:54] <goop2> alt-f2  konsole
[19:54] <mragrid> does someone know how to check the xorg version
[19:54] <Marcin_> how can i say kubuntu, that sound output should be over optical connection?
[19:54] <NickPresta> mragrid, `Xorg -version`
[19:54] <Ricket> thanks! so I do seem to have 7.10, but it's fetching upgrades to 7.10 right now, so.... i don't know. i'm confused. whatever, i'll just let it upgrade...
[19:55] <mragrid> nickpresta: thanks
[19:55] <goop2> Ricket: it may just be updating your programs
[19:56] <Ricket> goop2: perhaps, but it does say "Upgrading Kubuntu to Version 7.10" - does it do that every time there are app updates?
[19:56] <mragrid> Please does someone know how to configure 3d acceleration of ATI radeon 320m
[19:56] <goop2> Ricket: and there is a glitch in Adept that asks you to upgrade to the next version, even if you already have it
[19:56] <Ricket> Ah, okay, it's probably that glitch then
[19:56] <mragrid> i have it enabled in kanotix and i want to do the same in kubuntu
[19:56] <NickPresta> !ati | mragrid
[19:56] <ubotu> mragrid: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:57] <cheesypieces> hi guys, can anyone recommend a good cd writing package, preferrably with a gui
[19:58] <NickPresta> cheesypieces, k3b
[19:58] <goop2> cheesypieces: k3b > all
[19:58] <cheesypieces> k3b? thanks guys
[19:59] <cheesypieces> ok, how about a partition manager?
[19:59] <cheesypieces> again, with a gui
[19:59] <goop2> qtparted
[19:59] <NickPresta> cheesypieces, gparted (or qtparted)
[19:59] <cheesypieces> fantastic, thanks
[20:01] <mragrid> ubotu: the problem is that the fglrx does not contain a driver with 3d acceleration support for my card and i noticed that in kanotix its working verry well so please if you know a way throught it i can copy all the informations needed from kanotix and put it in kubuntu to get the card working please tell it to me
[20:01] <Pici> mragrid: ubotu is a bot.
[20:01] <mragrid> ubotu: also i think that kanotix use vesa instead of fglrx
[20:01] <goop2> what he said ^
[20:02] <Pici> !bot | mragrid
[20:02] <ubotu> mragrid: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[20:02] <mragrid> ok i understand know
[20:03] <mragrid> so now i described my problem does anyboy has an idea
[20:05] <mragrid> come on guys any helpfull information is welcome
[20:19] <kubuntu_> Flare183_ nennt sich jetzt Flare183
[20:19] <Flare183> yeah english here
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[20:19] <Flare183> !fr
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[20:20] <Flare183> !de
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[20:25] <tom__> hi! could someone tell me where to go to get info on upgrading ubuntu from feisty to gutsy? thx
[20:25] <SlimeyPete> !gutsy
[20:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[20:28] <tom__> I tried using Update Manager and got this: W: GPG error: http://debian.tagancha.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5BC4CFB8EEF818CF
[20:31] <Ayabara> when I increase volume with my media buttons, a gui-thingy pops up and shows the percentage of the total volume. anyone know where that "comes from". can I configure which of the volumes/levels on my pc it shows?
[20:31] <Ayabara> after I set pcm as my master volume and reconfigured my media buttons, the gui-thingy doesn't show
[20:32] <tekteen> Ayabara: I think kmilo runs the multimedia keys
[20:32] <tekteen> I do not know much though
[20:33] <sui> tekteen: would be nice if kmilo is the responsible program. last time I searched kmilo it wasn't installed
[20:33] <Ayabara> tekteen: yep. I think it was kmilo behind the scenes when I remapped the media keys
[20:33] <Ayabara> they work fine know, but the gui popups disappeared
[20:34] <tyson_> is there a good, accurate and actually helpful howto on getting compiz working in gutsy kubuntu?
[20:34] <as2000> anyone know how to center the desktop? I have a .25 inch of space on the left side of monitor
[20:34] <tekteen> Ayabara: how did you remap the keys
[20:35] <tekteen> ?
[20:35] <tekteen> I looked everywhere
[20:35] <Ayabara> tekteen: System Preferences -> Accessibility -> Input Actions
[20:35] <tekteen> Ayabara: ty
[20:35] <tekteen> !compiz|tyson_
[20:35] <ubotu> tyson_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[20:36] <mrbrdo> i have only one question: does using XGL improve the speed of KDE4 or it is better without it? i don't need compiz-fusion or anything like that
[20:36] <tekteen> it is a great guide
[20:36] <tekteen> it worked for me
[20:36] <tyson_> ...until it gets to the part where compiz --replace takes away the window borders/frames
[20:36] <Ayabara> tekteen: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys
[20:36] <tekteen> Ayabara: ty again
[20:37] <tekteen> tyson_: it dissapears?
[20:38] <tekteen> doesn't it come back?
[20:38] <tom__> could someone give me the name of a channel where people are helpful?
[20:38] <tyson_> the windows are there, but the frames around them are gone
[20:38] <tyson_> ...so ya cant drag, close windows, etc...
[20:39] <tekteen> tyson_: try to install emerald
[20:39] <tyson_> its installed
[20:40] <tekteen> tyson_: what errors are there when you try to run it?
[20:40] <tyson_> none
[20:40] <Ayabara> tom_: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/upgrade-ubuntu-from-feisty-to-gutsy/
[20:40] <tyson_> just the windows lose their broders
[20:40] <tyson_> ....and their borders too
[20:40] <Ayabara> could you give me the name of a channel where people are not sarcastic ;-)
[20:40] <BluesKaj> well, tried installing tastymenu with the dpkg -i command and GDebi pkg installer but it won't run in either case. Synaptic says it's installed but how does one enable it ?
[20:41] <tekteen> Ayabara: #kubuntu-noanswer
[20:41] <Ayabara> tekteen: :-)
, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/upgrade-ubuntu-from-feisty-to-gutsy/
[20:43] <tlayton> BluesKaj: right click the task bar and choose 'add applet to panel'. then pick tastymenu
[20:52] <BluesKaj> tlayton, thx ...found the page with the instructions
[20:54] <makers_mark> any way i can launch System Monitor through a keyboard shortcut (similar to ctrl+alt+del/ctrl+shift+esc in win?a
[20:56] <Odd-rationale> makers_mark: I think it is ctrl+esc
[20:57] <makers_mark> nope.
[20:58] <Odd-rationale> makers_mark: hmm
[21:02] <Ayabara> what packages do I need to build kde-stuff?
[21:03] <BluesKaj> Ayabara, define kde-stuff
[21:03] <Ayabara> BluesKaj: taskbar-compiz. what I meant was to get KDE headers
[21:03] <sigma_1234> it depends on what you are building
[21:04] <Ayabara> kde4base-dev or something like that?
[21:04] <BluesKaj> check in adept
[21:04] <Ayabara> kdelibs-dev maybe. googled and found it in "absolute beginners talk" :-)
[21:05] <jpatrick> Ayabara: I think I shoved that into gutsy-backports months ago...
[21:05] <Ayabara> jpatrick: found it with apt, so it looks good
[21:06] <sigma_1234> you could always google it. someone had to have built it
[21:06] <jpatrick> Ayabara: aha, I did: kicker-taskbar-compiz and kicker-compiz
[21:06] <jpatrick> sigma_1234: me!
[21:06] <Ayabara> jpatrick: ah. you meant those. great!
[21:11] <Ayabara> does anyone know where I can configure the gui popups that tell me that the volume is set to x% when I change it with my laptop media keys
[21:12] <sigma_1234> what would you want to change on it? its really basic
[21:18] <Dioxin> guys is it possible to search apt-get for stuff?
[21:19] <grim76> Dioxin: use apt-cache search <insert package name here>
[21:19] <BluesKaj> Dioxin, sudo apt-cache search filename
[21:20] <Dioxin> what if I only know part of the package name? can I use like *fragment*
[21:20] <grim76> yes
[21:20] <Dioxin> cheers
[21:20] <Dioxin> brb :-P
[21:24] <the-mouse> hello, guys!
[21:24] <the-mouse> :)
[21:25] <the-mouse> i'm running kubuntu edgy and was wondering if i could install kde 4 on it without dist-upgrade. any ideas?
[21:27] <Ayabara> sigma_1234: because after I configured my media keys, it doesn't show up when I change my volume
[21:28] <Ayabara> I want to set it to listen for changes to "Front" volume
[21:28] <martijn81> really, we need a "request software" section on kde-apps.org
[21:28] <martijn81> something like i.e. http://www.macrabbit.com/cssedit/screenshots/ is really missing
[21:29] <xevious> how can i remove users from the kdm login screen?
[21:30] <sigma_1234> the-mouse: the packages are designed for gutsy so dont do it. try the live cd
[21:30] <xevious> i tried doing it in system settings -> advanced -> login manager, but kdm seems to be using a theme that ignores the settings in that settings app
[21:30] <the-mouse> sigma_1234, thank you ;)
[21:31] <sigma_1234> no problem
[21:32] <daniele> ciao
[21:33] <daniele> ki chatta cn me?
[21:33] <BluesKaj> !it | daniele
[21:33] <ubotu> daniele: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:33] <goop2> martijn81: IE7 is a rip-off of Firefox, which is available in the repositories
[21:34] <sigma_1234> lol
[21:34] <sigma_1234> but true
[21:34] <martijn81> goop2: cssedit is no IE or FF!
[21:35] <BluesKaj> FF is trouble some for me ...prefer the automatic tabbed browsing in Konq , no right click "open in tabs" required
[21:35] <martijn81> Konq rulez
[21:35]  * martijn81 hopes safari comes the same way
[21:35] <goop2> well you said something like IE was missing I though..
[21:35] <BluesKaj> went back to FF for a bit but I missed the konq options
[21:36] <mrbrdo> does gutsy's xorg already have native AIGLX support?
[21:36] <mrbrdo> or is that only in hardy?
[21:36] <BluesKaj> IE7 is being ported to Linux ,or so the rumour goes
[21:36] <goop2> oh great
[21:36] <BluesKaj> hehe
[21:36] <goop2> now we have to have M$ garbage here too
[21:37] <goop2> out out!
[21:37] <mrbrdo> finally then we can switch to linux full-time!
[21:37] <ingrid> IE7? :(
[21:37] <mrbrdo> is it going to be bundled into KWin?
[21:37] <adz21c> sounds like Microsfts attempt to provide other OS's with security holes so their figures don't look too bad :P
[21:37] <BluesKaj> dunno but I think some strange ppl run it in wine or have tried anyway
[21:37] <goop2> full time? It IS full time for me..
[21:38] <Ayabara> any tips for a good icon theme for kubuntu?
[21:38] <goop2> OS-L
[21:39] <BluesKaj> still keep a windows partition to help my pc newb daughter
[21:39] <goop2> or NuoveXT
[21:40] <xevious> BluesKaj: my mom actually prefers linux. she says it's laid out in a more straight forward manner
[21:40] <goop2> I find it much simpler
[21:40] <the-mouse> in sept 2004 there were some news about portin FF to Qt, any progress? :(
[21:40] <BluesKaj> xevious, your mom is exceptional
[21:40] <cwa2> if you've never used a computer before, linux won't seem any harder than the rest...
[21:40] <goop2> Firefox3
[21:41] <goop2> Gran Paridiso
[21:41]  * jpatrick got (forced) his entire family to use Kubuntu
[21:41] <goop2> it's still beta though
[21:41] <the-mouse> FF3 uses QT?
[21:41] <goop2> yes
[21:41] <the-mouse> omg
[21:41] <cwa2> is there a guide for completely reinstalling X for feisty?
[21:41] <goop2> it's sweet
[21:41] <BluesKaj> cwa2 , agreed but most laptops come with windows and there's no way around that
[21:42] <cwa2> BluesKaj- wubi
[21:42] <the-mouse> where can i download the qt version of FF3? :)
[21:42] <thomas__> !grub
[21:42] <goop2> the-mouse: I don't use it though, because the add-ons I use don't support it
[21:42] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:43] <goop2> it's in the repositories
[21:43] <ingrid> my scanner still doesn't work. if i run scanimage > image.pnm it works but both xsane and kooka see the scanner but doesn't use it. any ideas?
[21:43] <xevious> BluesKaj: the last computer i built for my mom, i gave her a windows cd and a kubuntu cd and said "figure it out and pick whichever one you want"
[21:43] <xevious> i went and played music for an hour and then went back and she had a linux desktop and was installing firefox
[21:43] <the-mouse> goop2, is it in the kubuntu edgy repos?
[21:44] <goop2> the-mouse: probably
[21:44] <the-mouse> :D 10d
[21:44] <xevious> does firefox using Qt mean that it'll integrate with a top menu bar?
[21:44] <the-mouse> 10x*
[21:44] <xevious> or would that have to be kde?
[21:44] <goop2> it means your Google button doesn't look like garbage
[21:45] <BluesKaj> xevious, very cool :)
[21:46] <the-mouse> goop2, can you tell me the name of the package, because i can't find it :(
[21:47] <Ayabara> goop2: NouveXT looks much better than the default. thanks
[21:47] <goop2> firefox-3.0
[21:47] <the-mouse> 10x
[21:47] <goop2> Ayabara: very cool. I like it too
[21:48] <goop2> Ayabara: I think Crystal is ugly
[21:48] <Ayabara> goop2: now all I need is a wallpaper and a nice emerald theme :-)
[21:49] <goop2> Ayabara: sorry, I can't help you there =P
[21:49] <goop2> though I've been using Baghira for my theme
[21:50] <BluesKaj> is there a way to get Firefox 3 to launch from the desktop instead of within the folder ?
[21:51] <the-mouse> goop2, ff3 is only avaible for gutsy, i should really think about upgrading :)
[21:51] <Ayabara> goop2: think I'll manage :-)
[21:52] <goop2> the-mouse: I wouldn't if you have an integrated video card
[21:52] <goop2> the-mouse: but that's just me
[21:52] <the-mouse> why?
[21:52] <the-mouse> my video is integrated :)
[21:52] <goop2> the-mouse: I still haven't gotten mine working with OpenGL
[21:53] <the-mouse> is it NVIDIA?
[21:53] <goop2> yep
[21:53] <the-mouse> I thiunght their drivers were ok... :(
[21:53] <the-mouse> thought*
[21:53] <goop2> it worked great with Feisty
[21:54] <goop2> but it stopped working when I upgraded
[21:54] <the-mouse> strange....
[21:54] <the-mouse> as a matter of fact i think my video overlay isn't working and the video is rendered using CPU, not the video card :(
[21:55] <goop2> some people get it working, but I'm not sure how
[21:56] <the-mouse> some :D
[21:56] <Mediapirate> how do you stop iptables in kubuntu?
[21:56] <jpatrick> !nickspam > Nyx
[21:56] <BluesKaj> the-mouse, post the output ; glxinfo | grep direct
[21:57] <the-mouse> direct rendering: Yes
[21:58] <Mediapirate> nm i've done it
[21:58] <goop2> mine spammed me with this
[21:58] <goop2> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:58] <BluesKaj> the-mouse, ok add these lines to the device section of your Xorg.config file :Option          "VideoOverlay" "on" : and : Option          "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
[21:59] <the-mouse> sec ;)
[22:00] <BluesKaj> the-mouse, don't copy the : and:
[22:00] <Mediapirate> what program do i use to burn a bootable iso?
[22:00] <BluesKaj> k3b should do it
[22:00] <goop2> K3b > all
[22:00] <Mediapirate> thanks blueskaj hope it works
[22:01] <Mediapirate> haha
[22:01] <the-mouse> going for restart of X ;)
[22:01] <Mediapirate> thanks also goop2 with your random comment
[22:01] <goop2> =P
[22:01] <daniele> Forza Pisa
[22:01] <BluesKaj> Mediapirate, make sure you choose the burn iso option
[22:05] <Mediapirate> will do
[22:05] <Mediapirate> but in nero when i burn iso it dosen't work....you have to burn bootable iio
[22:05] <Mediapirate> iso*
[22:05] <the-mouse> goop2, i'm back :)
[22:06] <goop2> pwn
[22:06] <sofia> I have a wireless card that I can't figure how to get working, anyone who can help?
[22:07] <BluesKaj> Mediapirate, what iso file is it ?
[22:08] <BluesKaj> !wireless | sofia
[22:08] <ubotu> sofia: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:08] <sofia> BluesKaj, thanks
[22:09] <Mediapirate> the iso is windows 98
[22:09] <Mediapirate> why do you ask?
[22:10] <BluesKaj> Mediapirate, maybe your iso won't boot because you don't have your cdrom set as first in the BIOS boot sequence
[22:10] <seagal> hello i needed to install kuntu because ubuntu have i bug whit adminlogin
[22:11] <Mediapirate> oh dunno but i sorted that
[22:11] <nosrednaekim> seagal: then run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[22:11] <Mediapirate> and when i said that i was talkin of in the past
[22:11] <Mediapirate> but thanks anway blueskaj
[22:11] <the-mouse> goop2, i think i don't have video overlay, because on my old mothermoard with AGP video vard (GeForce4MX 440) when i move the video window of mplayer the video content moved delayed from the movement of the window and there was a blue space when moving. now the video is moving right with the window and the playback is little choppy, i know that video overlay, the hardware acceleration uses some interlancing methods wich makes the video
[22:11] <the-mouse> smoother :( sorry for the big post
[22:13] <seagal> but i only need to know is the new version is good from kubunto because the last time i install i new version i had also i big problem whit i program that was included
[22:13] <tyson_> what would cause adept manager to say there was an error commiting changes?
[22:14] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: and error commiting changes maybe ;)
[22:14] <BluesKaj> Mediapirate, youcan burn a W98 iso disk on k3b , by choosing the "Burn CD Image" option .
[22:14] <crafty_> in order to have a sata DVD drive function, do you have to have a sata hard drive?
[22:14] <goop2> seagal: try 7.04
[22:14] <tyson_> i see
[22:14] <tyson_> :)
[22:15] <goop2> seagal: when was it that you had troubles?
[22:16] <seagal> it was something i extrthing program
[22:16] <Mediapirate> Ok BluesKaj thanks mate
[22:16] <crafty_> loo?
[22:16] <seagal> extrackting
[22:17] <seagal> even on the internet its say that you may never install it
[22:17] <bugs> what is the command to installl kde\
[22:17] <goop2> seagal: oh.. what did it do?
[22:17] <sofia> ok what do I do if I can't enter administrator mode from System Settings?
[22:17] <Dioxin> guys I'm having a little problem getting xserver to run.. says I dont have any screens... this make sense to anyone?
[22:17] <crafty_> I can't get my sata DVD writer recognized
[22:19] <jab> Dioxin: have a look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf , especially the screen section
[22:19] <goop2> seagal: the default program extracts most stuff. It just doesn't do 7z
[22:19] <crafty_> wrong forum?
[22:20] <bugs> what is the terminal command to install kde??
[22:20] <sourcemaker> is there a way... to see the last error log of the kernel panic?
[22:20] <seagal> omg ark is so i can't install nothing here whit that ark
[22:20] <sourcemaker> my system hangs one or twice a day... but i do not know why :-)
[22:21] <nosrednaekim> sourcemaker: yes, its in /var/log/messages.1 (I think)
[22:21] <the-mouse> sourcemaker, do you have the render accel opntion enabled in xorg.conf? sometimes on nvidia cards xorg xangs :(
[22:21] <goop2> seagal: Ark isn't an installation program. It will extract Debian packages, but it doesn't install them
[22:22] <sourcemaker> the-mouse: I will check the config...
[22:22] <seagal> what is wrong here can't even log in
[22:22] <the-mouse> goop2, i tryed your options in xorg.conf, but it's the same
[22:22] <goop2> seagal: Just right click and click 'Install package'
[22:22] <sourcemaker> the-mouse: yes.. I have... default configuration generated by the nvidia configuration tool... should I disable this option?
[22:22] <seagal> whit su command
[22:23] <sourcemaker> the-mouse: there is nothing in /var/log/messages...
[22:23] <the-mouse> try and see if it hangs again ;)
[22:23] <goop2> the-mouse: it was actually Blueskaj who said that
[22:23] <the-mouse> ups sorry
[22:24] <Mediapirate> i'm off guys
[22:24] <seagal> can sobody help me out i bit
[22:24] <Mediapirate> have a good night
[22:24] <sourcemaker> the-mouse: I will be back... if the problem remains :-)
[22:24] <the-mouse> ;)
[22:24] <goop2> seagal: use sudo
[22:24] <bugs> What is the terminal command to install KDE??
[22:24] <the-mouse> oks guys, i'll be off to bed
[22:24] <the-mouse> good night ;)
[22:24] <the-mouse> 10x to all
[22:24] <posingaspopular> bugs: sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[22:24] <goop2> later
[22:25] <bugs> posingaspopular thank you
[22:26] <seagal> i do's nothing
[22:26] <bugs> posingaspopular   I get Invalid operation kde-desktop
[22:27] <bugs> it helps when I put    " install "
[22:28] <bugs> posingpopular Now Im getting Couldn't find package kde-desktop
[22:28] <goop2> seagal: are you trying to get a root shell?
[22:28] <bugs> do I need to update my repos first??  and if so do you have the one I need?
[22:28] <bugs> yes it is root
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> bugs: its "kubuntu-desktop"
[22:28] <seagal> i try to login my desktop as admin
[22:29] <seagal> but if hive my pasword its whrong but its right
[22:29] <seagal> that is strange
[22:29] <bugs> Y E S it is thank you
[22:30] <goop2> seagal: as far as I know Ubuntu doesn't actually have an Admin account
[22:30] <seagal> and i try to find out haw to remove that bug
[22:31] <seagal> apt-get
[22:31] <seagal> and ark but if i uninstal it it blocking
[22:32] <goop2> apt-get configure -a I think
[22:32] <seagal> i work whit kubuntu
[22:34] <seagal> don't know what to do i like linux but so dificult
[22:34] <goop2> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:34] <jab> challenging, not difficult ;)
[22:34] <goop2> seagal: it can be difficult if you run into problems
[22:35] <goop2> but once you get it set up problems are very rare
[22:36] <snikker> i've got a problem with vmware (libpng12.so.0 error) under amd64... can you help me?
[22:37] <nitrowv> what determines defaults for opening various files such as .jpeg or .wmv?
[22:37] <goop2> snikker: I've never tried using VMware, but do you have libpng12?
[22:37] <snikker> goop2: yes, i've got it...
[22:38] <goop2> nitrowv: you can right click on them and change the settings
[22:38] <nitrowv> goop2: thank you!
[22:38] <snikker> goop2: it doesn't work after some updates...
[22:38] <xevious> anyone know how to remove users from the list on the default kubuntu kdm theme?
[22:39] <danielontop> test
[22:39] <goop2> xevious: System Settings > User Management
[22:40] <xevious> goop2: user management doesnt have anything for that setting. under advanced, login manager has options to show or hide users
[22:40] <xevious> but it doesnt affect the theme that kubuntu has
[22:40] <BluesKaj> too bad themouse left , I was called away for a few mins ...had some more suggestions for him
[22:41] <xevious> it's kind of bad that kubuntu's login manager in system settings doesnt actually affect the login screen
[22:42] <xevious> it can, but you have to edit files to disable the kubuntu theme first
[22:43] <tyson_> i have a program i want to start when i log in. i understand i need to place a 'link' in the /user/share/autostart folder, but how do i make a link?
[22:44] <goop2> tyson_: right click and select Create New Link
[22:44] <goop2> to application
[22:44] <goop2> then type the name of the application under command I think
[22:45] <tyson_> right click what
[22:45] <tyson_> the program whre its installed?
[22:45] <goop2> tyson_: anywhere in the window
[22:45] <goop2> in /user/share/autostart
[22:47] <alteregolio> meow
[22:47] <alteregolio> high
[22:47] <xevious> drool
[22:47] <goop2> tyson_: as an example, you can right click the desktop and click new link to application
[22:48] <alteregolio> what the hell is this kernel , works not correct with p5k
[22:48] <goop2> tyson_: and put 'firefox' as the command
[22:48] <tyson_> not on my desktop you cant
[22:48] <alteregolio> atl1 csum wrong pkt_flag:1600 ( dmsg)
[22:48] <tyson_> i see in the menus for konqurer that i can make a new link, and am trying to do it like thaat
[22:49] <goop2> tyson_: Yeah
[22:49] <goop2> tyson_: that's the idea
[22:51] <hola> how i can remove bridge interface
[22:51] <sd32> how do i disable ipv6  in kubuntu?
[22:51] <BluesKaj> anyone able to link FF3 beta2 to a desktop icon , if so how is it done ?
[22:51] <goop2> I just did it like 2 seconds ago
[22:52] <goop2> BluesKaj: right click and hit create new link
[22:52] <goop2> and in command type firefox-3.0
[22:52] <BluesKaj> no such option goop2
[22:52] <goop2> then give it a pretty firefox icon
[22:53] <goop2> seriously?
[22:53] <goop2> mine must be an anomoly
[22:54] <goop2> BluesKaj: it's the top option on my computer.. and I have the default desktop I think
[22:55] <BluesKaj> what in the FF folder are you right clicking to create the new link ?
[22:55] <hola> how i can remove bridge interface
[22:55] <bfrog> is there someway to have knetworkmanager handle the wireless connection after setting it to manual?
[22:55] <bfrog> like, I set it to manual
[22:55] <martijn81> howto auto identify in konversation?
[22:56] <goop2> BluesKaj: I'm right clicking the desktop
[22:56] <bfrog> now I want to go back to knetworkmanager handling it
[22:56] <seagal> audio is also hard to handle
[22:58] <goop2> seagal: I have the problem with integrated sound cards not doing mixing
[22:58] <goop2> I put in an old sound card, and it didn't work with modern filetypes
[22:58] <seagal> what program is good for movie and cd i have amorok but its more like tik..tik
[22:59] <martijn81> seagal: for movie check out kmplayer or vlc
[22:59] <goop2> seagal: I used to use VLC and XMMS, but then I went back to the defaults
[22:59] <seagal> and cd audio
[23:00] <goop2> XMMS is a nice little audio player, but it has way too much gain on it
[23:00] <martijn81> seagal: for sound, check whether you have the file compete and the right codecs installed
[23:00] <martijn81> *complete
[23:00] <goop2> BluesKaj:did you get it working?
[23:01] <BluesKaj> nope
[23:01] <seagal> codec if dificult to find because is creative soundcard and don't even know haw to unpacking files
[23:01] <BluesKaj> the link fails
[23:01] <goop2> BluesKaj: weird
[23:02] <BluesKaj> what are you linking to in the FF folder ?
[23:02] <goop2> BluesKaj: you have a link to an application, and as an application command 'firefox-3.0'?
[23:02] <goop2> I'm not
[23:02] <goop2> I just right-click the desktop
[23:03] <Duesentrieb> hi all.
[23:03] <goop2> and click 'Create New < Link to Application'
[23:03] <seagal> i don't suport my card
[23:04] <BluesKaj> goop2, KDEInit could not launch 'firefox-3.0'.: Could not find 'firefox-3.0' executable
[23:04] <Duesentrieb> i'm looking for a way to convert kivio graphics to pdf or eps on the command line. on the gui, it can be done using the print-to-file interface. now i'm wondering if there is a standard "print this" interface for document-.oriented kde programs? using dcop, maybe?
[23:04] <goop2> BluesKaj:did you install it through the repositories?
[23:05] <BluesKaj> no, untarred it
[23:05] <BluesKaj> it's a bz2 file
[23:06] <goop2> oh.. that would be a problem then..
[23:06] <BluesKaj> FF3 beta2
[23:06] <BluesKaj> what repos has it ?
[23:06] <hola> how i can remove bridge interface
[23:07] <jackault> If I install ubuntu-desktop does that get gnome and compiz along with it?
[23:07] <goop2> BluesKaj: one of the defaults
[23:07] <BluesKaj> that's not beta 2 is it ?
[23:08] <jughead> what's a nice easy way to get redeye out of a pic?  kubuntu gutsy here.
[23:08] <jackault> speaking of compiz, I tried to get it on kde and end up with a white screen, what's up with that?
[23:08] <goop2> BluesKaj: dunno
[23:09] <goop2> BluesKaj: I had assumed it was the latest
[23:09] <goop2> jughead: I use The GIMP. I read that to burn tool works good for that
[23:10] <BluesKaj> looking synaptic
[23:10] <seagal> i have i beep instead of sound
[23:10] <goop2> BluesKaj: no.. it's actually Alpha 8
[23:11] <seagal> its like i fly
[23:12] <BluesKaj> yeah goop2 , I see that ...tried that before , not the same as beta 2
[23:12] <Bizzeh> hey, about to install kubuntu 7.10 amd64, can kde4 run on amd64?
[23:12] <BluesKaj> Bizzeh, yes
[23:13] <Bizzeh> ty
[23:13] <BluesKaj> good luck tho
[23:14] <goop2> anybody know if there's a way to make KDE4 not look like a rip-off of Vista?
[23:15] <goop2> Vista is a rip-off of KDE4, so I don't see why they would copy it..
[23:15] <Bizzeh> vista was in development many moons before kde4
[23:15] <Bizzeh> and in design long before that
[23:16] <goop2> they still took stuff from KDE
[23:16] <MaTiAz> Like what?
[23:16] <goop2> the menu
[23:16] <Bizzeh> really?
[23:16] <goop2> yeah
[23:16] <Bizzeh> is that why i have the unofficial build for xp
[23:16] <Bizzeh> released 4 years ago
[23:16] <Bizzeh> that menu was designed not long after xp
[23:17] <goop2> the KDE4 menu
[23:17] <Bizzeh> the vista menu, was ripped off by kde
[23:17] <goop2> I saw it in KDE-Look long before Vista came out
[23:17] <Bizzeh> goop2: vista has a development cycle, just like kde
[23:17] <Bizzeh> vista didnt just suddenly apear
[23:18] <Doctor_Nick> KDE4 more like KDEBORE
[23:18] <Doctor_Nick> blammo
[23:18] <Bizzeh> its been in development sice just after xp came out
[23:18] <Bizzeh> was designed before xp even came out
[23:18] <goop2> yeah, right.. it takes a long time to get it from PPC to x86
[23:18] <MaTiAz> ehh what?
[23:19] <goop2> that was a joke
[23:19] <MaTiAz> lol
[23:19] <Bizzeh> goop2: a friend of mine works at microsoft, when xp sp1 was released, he was hired to work on "longhorn". when he got there, all the gui and everything, was already designed and working
[23:19] <Bizzeh> he was charged with making old apps run
[23:20] <Bizzeh> so, back compat, and various other small things, for 2 years....
[23:20] <goop2> ouch
[23:20] <Bizzeh> i first saw kde4 anounced about 2 years ago
[23:20] <seagal> eny one know to find out abaut sound problem my icon its marketh whit i red dot in it
[23:20] <Bizzeh> just after vista look and design was finalised
[23:20] <goop2> seems like it takes forever for M$ to get anything done
[23:21] <goop2> why is that?
[23:21] <Bizzeh> the billions of applications that exist?
[23:21] <Bizzeh> the trillions of possible combinations of windowing there is
[23:21] <Bizzeh> the quadrillions of possible hardware combinations
[23:22] <goop2> that doesn't mean they should be so much slower than everyone else
[23:22] <Bizzeh> no, it means they actualy take time and remove as many bugs as possible, rather than doing what linux distros do and "just release"
[23:23] <Bizzeh> "if it works on my system, it works"
[23:23] <goop2> and it isn't like they're writing a new kernal or anything. They've been using NT for ages
[23:23] <Bizzeh> haha
[23:23] <Bizzeh> you know nothing about development at all
[23:23] <Bizzeh> or any os development
[23:23] <Bizzeh> or driver development
[23:23] <Bizzeh> or anything....
[23:23] <goop2> meh
[23:24] <Bizzeh> infact, i dont wanna get banned from here
[23:24] <goop2> I just know what works on my computer..
[23:24] <Bizzeh> so to protect myself from your ignorance, im gonna ignore you
[23:24] <goop2> and what doesn't
[23:24] <goop2> sweet
[23:24] <martijn81> lo
[23:24] <martijn81> lol
[23:25] <Bizzeh> Added *!*@206.152.188.242 to ignore list
[23:25] <goop2> wylde
[23:26] <goop2> funny thing is I'll be getting a new IP tomorrow anyway
[23:26] <goop2> lol
[23:26] <vzduch> Bizzeh: central Open Source philosophy: Release early, release often.
[23:27] <vzduch> that's how bugs get found and ultimately fixed
[23:27] <goop2> pwnt
[23:27] <hola> how i can remove bridge interface
[23:27] <Bizzeh> thats how bugs are found and, the entry point closed, but not actualy patched
[23:27] <goop2> which is actually part of why it takes ages for M$ to release an OS
[23:28] <vzduch> Bizzeh: a bug is not necessarily a security hole
[23:28] <goop2> actually they do get fixed much faster if you actually know where they are
[23:29] <Kohlrabi> imho it's the wrong philosophy to let the users stumble into bugs
[23:29] <Bizzeh> its a developers job to find as remove bugs
[23:29] <Bizzeh> not the users
[23:29] <Kohlrabi> but if you don't like that you can use debian stable
[23:29] <vzduch> Kohlrabi: then use Debian stable, please :D
[23:29] <goop2> that's where there's stable software. and unstable software released seperately
[23:30] <Bizzeh> what i dont like is, all distros come with xorg ati driver, which hasnt worked in years
[23:30] <Kohlrabi> vzduch: yeah, I would, if it worked with my hardware :P
[23:30] <Bizzeh> because of a petty stuck up, anal view on closed drivers
[23:30] <vzduch> Kohlrabi: then use Windoze, please :D
[23:30] <Kohlrabi> Bizzeh: aren't you the guy from #reactos?
[23:31] <Bizzeh> im A guy from there yes
[23:31] <Kohlrabi> ok :)
[23:31] <Kohlrabi> vzduch: I use "Windows"
[23:33] <goop2> Linux was never meant to be a commercial project, why should so much responsibility be put on the developers?
[23:34] <martijn81> goop2: yeah, but if you want it to make a success....
[23:34] <goop2> the Ubuntu project is meant as a community thing, where everyone has some ammount of involvment
[23:34] <martijn81> look at mac, they survive in that way
[23:34] <Bizzeh> if you want to make anything a success, you need to apeal to the lowest common denominator
[23:34] <Bizzeh> thats why britany spears is famous
[23:35] <Bizzeh> she was hot when she was 16
[23:35] <vzduch> and what's left of that?  now she's mentally insane..
[23:35] <Kohlrabi> You are comparing Britney to a Linux distribution?
[23:35] <goop2> exactly
[23:35] <Kohlrabi> long shot...?
[23:35] <goop2> Linux isn't a shaven whore
[23:36] <Bizzeh> no, im just saying
[23:36] <Bizzeh> if you want something to "sell" you need to apeal to lowest of the low
[23:36] <goop2> bums can't afford computers
[23:36] <smeril> Can somebody please help me getting on with flash to kubuntu i havent been able to watch youtube and use flash websites since i installed linux
[23:37] <smeril> on open suse it worked perfect
[23:37] <goop2> smeril: just install the flash plugin in Adept
[23:37] <smeril> i have flash installed but i get error mesage everytime it tryes to use it
[23:37] <goop2> you may have to open up the restricted repositories
[23:39] <goop2> smeril: do you have the non-free plugin?
[23:39] <smeril> name of the error is 11(sigsegv)
[23:39] <Bizzeh> flash is broke
[23:40] <seagal> where can i find drivers alternate for my card creative audigi2
[23:40] <vincent_> hello i m french i m newbies i want go in the IRC french
[23:40] <smeril> I am not sure which one i have i have tryed adobe etc and some other i dont know the name of
[23:41] <vincent_> who can't help me ?
[23:43] <goop2> try #kubuntu-fr
[23:44] <vincent_> think YOU
[23:45] <smeril> anybody who knows?
[23:46] <goop2> try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[23:47] <smeril> nothing happends
[23:47] <smeril> it says 0 0 0
[23:47] <seagal> i found i lnk for my problem but never done it before
[23:47] <seagal> http://files.printf.dk/guides/audigy2.htm
[23:48] <seagal> can sombody tel me if that is working
[23:50] <seagal> because i think you know al match more than i
[23:51] <smeril> how can it be so hard to get the flash to work?
[23:51] <_BlueLaguna> Anyone know how to reduce the taskbar size in KDE4? :-/
[23:52] <goop2> smeril: dunno.. I've never had a problem with it, that's strange
[23:52] <pou4ever> Bonsoir
[23:52] <smeril> how did you do? do i have to first delete the old version and then install the new?
[23:53] <goop2> smeril: you could try that
[23:53] <smeril> whats the comand for that
[23:53] <smeril> ?
[23:53] <goop2> I would do it right in Adept
[23:54] <harry__> hello.. I have a new install of ubuntu and cannot see my yahoo news videos, how do I make my newly installed flashplayer work?  sudo apt-get install flashplayer and it worked but still cant see the news vids
[23:54] <pou4ever> who is Fr?
[23:55] <vzduch> !fr | pou4ever
[23:55] <ubotu> pou4ever: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[23:55] <goop2> the french chanel is #kubuntu-fr if you're interested
[23:55] <pou4ever> thx
[23:55] <david__> help, how do i unlock the database, adept wont start because   it says my database is locked or being used by another application?
[23:56] <goop2> if it isn't being used, you can try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[23:57] <david__> goop2: ok ill try that thanks
[23:58] <smeril> i am giving up
[23:58] <goop2> heh.. sorry